jibel | cjwatson, I verified successfully the fix for Wubi, and smoke tested desktop images successfully as well. I notified IS, going to bed now. | 01:20 |
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GrueMaster | Probably too late, but I have the omap4 image of kubuntu-mobile running now. Still needs some polish, but the image is now a complete SD image. After oem-config runs, a system reboot is required for the plasma-mobile environment to start. | 01:36 |
ScottK | GrueMaster: Thanks for testing. Sounds acceptable to me for a tech preview image. | 02:57 |
GrueMaster | I haven't tested the omap3 image, but it should have the same results. | 02:57 |
GrueMaster | I'm closing up for the day. Need dinner and my brain is drained from testing & wiki-wacking. | 02:58 |
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rbnswartz | if anyone from the release team up? if so could they give me an estimate on release time? | 07:12 |
ckw | rbnswartz, asking is futile | 07:13 |
ckw | They will release it when they release it | 07:13 |
rbnswartz | ckw I can hope can't I? :) | 07:15 |
rbnswartz | I have a free block of bandwidth now and was looking to see how soon release is. | 07:17 |
jbicha | lol | 07:19 |
ckw | I'm also waiting for the torrents *I want to break 1.5 TB upload this year, got to 1.1 last year) and I'm waiting too | 07:19 |
ckw | s/*/(/ | 07:20 |
jbicha | I think it will still be a few hours, I don't think UK's even at work yet | 07:21 |
rbnswartz | debian did a twitter feed of all the happenings when they released squeeze. Ubuntu should do the same | 07:21 |
maco | Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol | 07:31 |
rbnswartz | all I want to know is if it will be in the the next couple hours. | 07:34 |
wgrant | Perhaps we need a bot that says "It will be out when it's out." every five seconds. | 07:35 |
rbnswartz | I got up at 2AM hoping that it will be soon. If it won't be within the next couple horse my bandwidth window will close. | 07:36 |
maco | depends when ISO testing & confirmation is finished | 07:36 |
wgrant | Precisely. | 07:36 |
* maco does not have a crystal ball | 07:36 | |
wgrant | Precisely.[B | 07:37 |
wgrant | Grar. | 07:37 |
* wgrant kicks screen. | 07:38 | |
rbnswartz | wgrant this is random but how do add those comments? | 07:42 |
wgrant | rbnswartz: Which comments? | 07:42 |
* wgrant wonders what you're talking about. | 07:42 | |
rbnswartz | that | 07:43 |
* wgrant still isn't sure. | 07:43 | |
rbnswartz | the little text notes such as "wgrant still isn't sure" | 07:43 |
nigelb | maco: I'm stealing that statement :) | 07:44 |
maco | nigelb: you dont even get the reference because you dont even watch the show! | 07:44 |
nigelb | maco: BBT? | 07:44 |
maco | no | 07:44 |
nigelb | Dr. Who? | 07:44 |
maco | yes | 07:44 |
nigelb | :) | 07:44 |
nigelb | It has to be one of 'em :) | 07:44 |
wgrant | rbnswartz: You ruin all the fun: "/me still isn't sure." | 07:44 |
maco | nigelb: i need to watch some new shows to trip you up, huh? | 07:45 |
nigelb | we should probably not spam this channel | 07:45 |
nigelb | maco: haha ;) | 07:45 |
* rbnswartz enlightened | 07:45 | |
* rbnswartz is enlightened | 07:45 | |
pitti | Good morning | 07:50 |
pitti | superm1: I don't mind shortening the maturing period for #771560; just say there that you tested it? (since nobody else really can) | 07:51 |
pitti | superm1: ah, you did | 07:52 |
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cjwatson | rbnswartz: it won't quite be in the next couple of hours from when you asked | 08:54 |
rbnswartz | cjwatson thanks. | 08:55 |
ogra_ | cjwatson, headless will end up at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-headless/releases/11.04/ , right (there is no download link in the release notes yet) | 09:00 |
ogra_ | ? | 09:00 |
cjwatson | ogra_: lose the "ubuntu-headless" path element | 09:01 |
ogra_ | k | 09:02 |
ogra_ | same for netbook ? | 09:02 |
cjwatson | yeah - as I indicated the other day | 09:02 |
ogra_ | right, just wanted to be sure before i edit :) | 09:02 |
cjwatson | 12:36 <cjwatson> I think if I do that they may also end up in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/ rather than http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-{headless,netbook}/releases/natty/release/ | 09:03 |
cjwatson | (though yeah, 11.04 rather than natty in official docs) | 09:03 |
cjwatson | Riddell,ScottK: will anyone be able to sign off on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseManifest for kubuntu-mobile? I gather from scrollback that omap3 is still untested but that omap4 is believed OK with caveats | 09:04 |
ogra_ | right, changed (if the wiki ever saves) | 09:04 |
cjwatson | Riddell,ScottK: Kate wants manifest signoff before we publish images | 09:04 |
Riddell | hmm, investigating -mobile | 09:24 |
Riddell | skaet, cjwatson: good to go on kubuntu-mobile | 09:32 |
Riddell | I've signed it off | 09:32 |
skaet | arm as well as i386? | 09:32 |
skaet | Riddell, thanks for chasing it down. | 09:33 |
Riddell | yes arm too | 09:34 |
cjwatson | ok, thanks | 09:35 |
jibel | Riddell, kubuntu on powerpc is not affected by 756719 ? | 09:36 |
jibel | bug 756719 | 09:36 |
ubot4 | Launchpad bug 756719 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 3 other projects) "PowerPC Natty Beta LiveCD Hangs Bad Mirror (affects: 2) (dups: 1) (heat: 14)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/756719 | 09:36 |
Riddell | jibel: hmm, I thought they had been tested but I don't see anything on iso tracker | 09:38 |
cjwatson | that does seem like it should affect both similarly, unless I'm missing something in the ubiquity KDE frontend | 09:38 |
jibel | it affects alternate as well but you can workaround by setting the mirror manually | 09:39 |
cjwatson | indeed | 09:40 |
Riddell | only report I have is.. | 09:41 |
Riddell | 20:25 < Tm_T> Riddell: live boots, apps gets launched 20:26 < Tm_T> ...and because of apparently broken hardware (I/O errors from cdrom device) at some point I got plasma-desktop being rather unresponsive | 09:41 |
Riddell | so I guess he didn't get as far as installing it | 09:41 |
cjwatson | I'll withdraw it from the publication I'm doing until we get signoff | 09:41 |
Riddell | yep | 09:42 |
Fight2Win | is it out yet? | 09:56 |
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dingan | is it out yet ? | 10:28 |
Riddell | dingan: #ubuntu-release-party | 10:29 |
Riddell | what's the difference between https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview and https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes ? | 10:34 |
Riddell | and which should I link to from kubuntu.org for a "here's what's in Ubuntu in general"? | 10:34 |
skaet | Riddell, ReleaseNotes please | 10:34 |
skaet | its where the public links will go. | 10:34 |
skaet | TechnicalOverview is for pre-release | 10:34 |
skaet | ReleaseNotes is for release | 10:35 |
skaet | ie. TO for natty, RN for 11.04 | 10:35 |
skaet | :) | 10:35 |
mdz | So, welcome :-) | 10:51 |
Riddell | mdz: if you ask "is it out yet?" we'll just send you to #ubuntu-release-party :) | 10:53 |
So | mdz, merci! ; ) | 10:53 |
mdz | Riddell, I can just watch over cjwatson's shoulder instead ;-) | 10:54 |
cjwatson | should've done that half an hour ago ;-) | 10:56 |
stgraber | good morning | 11:42 |
mvo | hey stgraber | 11:47 |
paranox | so i heard you guys had a secret milestone build of 11.10 | 11:52 |
cjwatson | paranox: we do not | 11:53 |
cjwatson | the oneiric series hasn't been created yet; we'll start bootstrapping it later today | 11:53 |
paranox | this IS #windows8-release, right? | 11:53 |
paranox | "we'll" start bootstrapping it? | 11:54 |
ckw | paranox, See #windows8-release-party | 11:54 |
paranox | does that mean you are somehow associated with canonical? | 11:54 |
ckw | Nope, not at all | 11:54 |
ckw | I'll be good now, please don't kick | 11:55 |
cjwatson | you weren't trolling | 11:55 |
cjwatson | (possibly a ban was a bit excessive) | 11:55 |
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Riddell | skaet: will you ping me when release happens? | 12:06 |
mvo | me too please | 12:06 |
ckw | I think it's now. They just muted #ubuntu-release-party | 12:07 |
cjwatson | ckw: don't do the "I think it's now" thing here, please. | 12:07 |
nickmoeck | I think that was to stop the flood of people saying "I" | 12:07 |
cjwatson | this is a business channel. | 12:07 |
ckw | Ah. I misinterpretted the purpose of the mute then. Apologies. | 12:08 |
ckw | I was setup with "the channel will be mutted and people will say "It's released" when it's ready", so I made a logical jump | 12:09 |
stgraber | hey mvo! has been a while ;) | 12:09 |
mvo | stgraber: yeah, easter++ | 12:09 |
ogra_ | ++ ?? | 12:10 |
ogra_ | extra eggs ? | 12:10 |
ogra_ | :) | 12:10 |
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skaet | Riddell will do | 12:12 |
ogra_ | take your time, #ubuntu-release-party doesnt even have 500 ppl yet :) | 12:14 |
nigelb | ogra_: heh, yeah, lets wait for 1000 :) | 12:15 |
ogra_ | i think we never had 1000 yet | 12:16 |
ogra_ | iirc lucid was close though | 12:16 |
nigelb | If @ubuntudev were to tweet "we will release when we have 1000 people in release party, we will replease", we'll get there in 5 secs | 12:17 |
nigelb | Anyway, I should let you folks work :) | 12:17 |
ogra | skaet, TI asked for a minor change in the release notes/announcement | 12:25 |
skaet | ogra, just made it. | 12:25 |
skaet | to the announce | 12:25 |
skaet | please change the release notes directly | 12:25 |
ogra | will do | 12:26 |
ogra | hmm, the "panda" and "beagle" reference isnt in the release notes wikipage | 12:29 |
ogra | skaet, | 12:31 |
ogra | Developer reference images are provided for select Texas Instruments (TI) ARM | 12:31 |
ogra | platforms, specifically the "PandaBoard" and "BeagleBoard" developer systems. | 12:31 |
ogra | thats what i changed on the release announcement wiki | 12:31 |
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ogra | same change done in the ReleaseNotes | 12:34 |
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Riddell | skaet: release happened? | 12:36 |
nigelb | Riddell: yes | 12:36 |
* nigelb hugs release team :) | 12:36 | |
ckw | The release party is kinda crazy, but I really want to say thank you to you guys for all the work you put in | 12:37 |
skaet | Riddell, yes | 12:37 |
skaet | just waiting for #IS to let it out... | 12:37 |
* stgraber tries to publish announcement on edubuntu.org but humboldt is way too slow ... | 12:39 | |
pitti | darn, I missed the magic moment | 12:53 |
pitti | skaet: congratulations! | 12:53 |
mvo | skaet: yeah, well done! | 12:53 |
pitti | skaet: you missed 11:04 UTC by 32 minutes :) | 12:56 |
ogra | skaet, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes still says "draft - work in progress" at the top | 13:00 |
cjwatson | ogra: fixed | 13:01 |
ogra | thx | 13:02 |
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highvoltage | skaet: congratulations :) | 13:22 |
charlie-tca | Congratulations to everybody. This was pleasant to wake up to! | 13:24 |
skaet | thanks highvoltage , congratulations to the entire team ! It wouldn't have happened without everyone's efforts, development, test, and release!!! | 13:25 |
ogra_ | well, we were all led by an awesome release manager :) | 13:27 |
ScottK | doko_: I test built boost1.46 against gcc4.6 in your PPA and it built. I'd like to get that split and into Main (we'll drop 1.42) with updated boost-defaults before the first autosync. | 13:34 |
ScottK | (please let me know when I can upload it) | 13:34 |
ogra_ | cjwatson, seems not all images on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/ have a manifest file ? | 13:43 |
cjwatson | ogra_: manifest files are only for live-cd-type things | 13:44 |
ogra_ | cjwatson, well, preinstalled should have them | 13:44 |
cjwatson | ogra_: dunno, were they in the daily build? | 13:46 |
ogra_ | yep | 13:47 |
ogra_ | just checked | 13:47 |
ogra_ | i dont find them *that* important, but was just pinged about them in -arm | 13:47 |
cjwatson | ogra_: file a bug on ubuntu-cdimage - I'll try to remember to promote them to the release directories before oneiric builds start | 13:47 |
ogra_ | will do | 13:48 |
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charlie-tca | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/natty/release/ is missing the Xubuntu Desktop images | 14:10 |
Pici | The release notes on the wiki mention to use the '-d' switch to do-release-upgrade and update-manager in a few places, leftovers from the beta release notes. I know !itsawiki, but I feel a bit weird modifying it myself. | 14:10 |
cjwatson | charlie-tca: they're there for me | 14:12 |
cjwatson | Pici: feel free to delete -d | 14:12 |
Pici | cjwatson: will do. | 14:13 |
charlie-tca | cjwatson: I only see alternate images there | 14:13 |
charlie-tca | They are at daily-live, but not in release | 14:13 |
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doko_ | ScottK: you could already upload | 14:13 |
cjwatson | charlie-tca: probably a mirroring issue | 14:14 |
cjwatson | charlie-tca: it's there for me | 14:14 |
stgraber | Pici: I already did it | 14:15 |
Pici | stgraber: Yeah, I saw you had the lock, thanks :) | 14:15 |
davmor2 | charlie-tca: why is the xubuntu release page down more importantly ;) | 14:16 |
charlie-tca | Because we did not get the website updated yet | 14:17 |
charlie-tca | http://imagebin.org/150605 is what I get | 14:17 |
charlie-tca | Didn't know we would release as early as this | 14:18 |
charlie-tca | Got to go move a greenhouse this morning, too | 14:19 |
davmor2 | charlie-tca: haha | 14:19 |
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jdstrand | skaet: congrats :) | 14:26 |
skaet | thanks! | 14:26 |
ScottK | doko_: OK. Thanks. | 14:34 |
cjwatson | restarted queuebot for oneiric | 14:52 |
ScottK | doko_: Are you going to drop 2.6 from supported python versions? | 14:57 |
doko_ | ScottK: no, not before UDS | 14:57 |
ScottK | OK. | 14:57 |
ScottK | doko_: How about dropping python3.1 from python3-defaults now? We've already done that transition in Debian. | 15:34 |
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iulian | skaet: Congrats. Well done. | 15:38 |
skaet | iulian, thanks! | 15:41 |
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cjwatson | maco: rejected two of your three gally uploads to natty-proposed :) | 15:51 |
cjwatson | they were all identical, I assume due to the LP bug that makes it looks like dput failed | 15:51 |
ScottK | cjwatson: Yes. She's aware of the bug now. I wonder if that might be worth a mail to u-d-a to make people more generally aware of it? | 15:52 |
cjwatson | I guess | 15:53 |
cjwatson | (though I don't know enough of the details myself) | 15:53 |
superm1 | thx pitti | 15:53 |
ScottK | wgrant: ^^^ Could you draft something? | 15:53 |
wgrant | With a bit of luck it will be fixed tomorrow. | 15:55 |
wgrant | But if not, sure. | 15:56 |
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maco | cjwatson: yeah clearly i havent done enough uploads post-freeze to learn about that bug :P | 16:12 |
wgrant | maco: It only happens sometimes. | 16:23 |
wgrant | Once a week or so. | 16:23 |
wgrant | Until we fix it again. | 16:23 |
maco | well the answers.lp.net page i saw only referred to it having started recently | 16:24 |
wgrant | Right, about a month ago. | 16:24 |
wgrant | A bit less. | 16:24 |
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ScottK | doko: boost1.46 (for Main) and boost-mpi-source1.46 (for Universe) are in New. Once those are in the archive, boost-defaults can be synced. | 17:03 |
doko | ScottK: the first one already accepted, can't find the latter | 17:05 |
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ScottK | doko: I just finished uploading it, so it probably didn't make it to the queue yet. | 17:05 |
ScottK | doko: Should be there now. | 17:07 |
cjwatson | OK, so I think we're just waiting for libffi, and then my understanding is that doko will ask Launchpad admins to open the archive | 17:11 |
cjwatson | I'll check in tomorrow at some point and see if that needs any help, and if it's open, I expect I'll start autosyncs tomorrow | 17:11 |
doko | cjwatson: I'll leave a message here | 17:11 |
cjwatson | OK, thanks | 17:12 |
cjwatson | heading out to the party nowish :) | 17:12 |
doko | hmm, g++-multilib uninstallable ... | 17:18 |
lool | smoser: Hey, I see http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/unpacked/ is not as full as the maverick one; is this still underway for natty? | 18:55 |
smoser | lool, what were you wanting , specifically | 18:56 |
lool | I used to mirror stuff like: | 18:56 |
lool | +releases/lucid/release/unpacked/ubuntu-10.04-server-uec-amd64.img.tar.gz | 18:56 |
lool | +releases/lucid/release/unpacked/ubuntu-10.04-server-uec-amd64-vmlinuz-ec2 | 18:56 |
lool | And didn't find the natty equivalents | 18:56 |
lool | +releases/maverick/release/unpacked/ubuntu-10.10-server-uec-amd64.img.tar.gz | 18:56 |
lool | etc. | 18:56 |
bjf | pitti, will you be around tomorrow ? | 18:57 |
smoser | lool, those are gone. | 18:58 |
lool | smoser: Okay | 18:58 |
smoser | you'll need to get it from ubuntu-10.04-server-uec-amd64.tar.gz | 18:58 |
smoser | sorry. | 18:58 |
smoser | i added the vmdk | 18:58 |
smoser | and there were no users i knew of the .img.tar.gz | 18:58 |
smoser | and they were only very moderately smaller than .tar.gz | 18:58 |
smoser | note, i did just fix kernels being visable. | 18:59 |
lool | smoser: Do I remember correctly that it contains a fs image and that the tarball of it can't be rsynced properly? | 18:59 |
pitti | bjf: sparsely, because I need to prepare my moving on Saturday, but my IRC proxy is patient :) | 18:59 |
smoser | the .tar.gz file contains image, kernel, ramdisk.. basically image and some other small things. | 18:59 |
smoser | it is definitely built with gzip --rsyncable | 18:59 |
smoser | but note, that those don't really get that good of use out of --rsyncable | 19:00 |
smoser | because the filesystem is fairly random | 19:00 |
lool | smoser: Exactly | 19:00 |
smoser | so rsync doesn't do all that well iirc | 19:00 |
bjf | pitti, will have natty packages to pocket copy, will send email when ready, was just setting expectations :-) | 19:00 |
smoser | lool, did you have a solution to that? | 19:00 |
pitti | bjf: I noticed them on http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/pending-sru.html | 19:00 |
pitti | bjf: see my latest reply to the list; you can now also ask SpammapS to copy them | 19:01 |
smoser | or are you saying that the .img.tar.gz was better? | 19:01 |
bjf | pitti, saw that, might be a good test | 19:01 |
pitti | bjf: but only when it's urgent, I didn't walk through the kernel process with him yet | 19:01 |
lool | smoser: Nope; I was mirroring the unpacked output to have more directly usable files, and be as close as possible to something that rsync could base on | 19:01 |
bjf | pitti, not urgent, just will need doing | 19:01 |
lool | smoser: I'm not sure how good the .img.tar.gz was; I don't remember whether it was significantly better | 19:01 |
lool | smoser: But it at least removed one layer of tar + gz | 19:01 |
lool | smoser: Well, I'll mirror the tarball of the bits then, thanks | 19:03 |
smoser | the one inside the archive .tar.gz is still at the front. | 19:03 |
smoser | and always will be | 19:03 |
smoser | it wouldn't surprise me if the first 180M of that .img.tar.gz was identical (or very similar) to .tar.gz | 19:03 |
lool | smoser: Would it make sense to drop the unpacked/ dir entirely for natty though? | 19:04 |
lool | I thought it was broken because it existed but seemed void of its usual contents | 19:04 |
smoser | lool, i dont know. | 19:05 |
smoser | it probably does, but i dont really want to do it post release. | 19:05 |
smoser | as it has been in its current state for beta1+ at least | 19:05 |
lool | Ok | 19:05 |
smoser | but yeah, the only thing there is the kernel now | 19:05 |
lool | smoser: Slightly unrelated question; I booted a maverick released image today to test a -proposed kernel, and used the AMI on http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/maverick/release/ and on boot it had an "old" 2.6.35-24 kernel, but it's neither the maverick release nor the -updates / -security kernel ABI | 19:08 |
lool | smoser: Is it rolled a bit after release and then not updated? | 19:08 |
smoser | lool, http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/maverick/ | 19:09 |
smoser | that gives you the date... | 19:09 |
smoser | we are/I am supposed to be doing a better job than we are at updateing images, ideally in line with -updates kernels. | 19:09 |
smoser | so that the latest would alway boot a new kernel. | 19:10 |
lool | smoser: Sorry, I meant to ask what's triggering these updates; is it supposed to be one time a bit after each release, or every month, or every kernel upload etc. | 19:10 |
smoser | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UEC/Images/RefreshPolicy somewhat covers that. | 19:10 |
lool | ok | 19:10 |
lool | thanks! | 19:10 |
smoser | ideally it should be done on kernel upload... | 19:10 |
smoser | but i dont know that i'd want it to be all the way automated. | 19:11 |
smoser | so far, it has been a manual process to take a daily build, test it, and mark it as "release" | 19:11 |
smoser | but there are dailies, lool, and they're what you probably want. | 19:11 |
lool | For me dailies kind of imply that they saw less testing :-) | 19:13 |
lool | That's why I usually go to the release image | 19:13 |
lool | but yeah, I could have used the dailies there | 19:14 |
lool | Alright, thanks for all the details | 19:14 |
ScottK | doko: Second try on boost-mpi-source is in queue. | 19:31 |
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doko | ScottK: can't find anything | 19:58 |
ScottK | Odd. I got the waiting for approval mail. | 19:59 |
ScottK | doko: I see it in https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric/+queue?queue_state=1&queue_text= | 20:00 |
doko | ok, my mistake, wrong queue | 20:02 |
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doko | ScottK: failed again | 21:31 |
ScottK | Shoot. | 21:31 |
ScottK | I'll look at it. | 21:31 |
ScottK | It needn't block anything though. | 21:31 |
ScottK | Once boost1.46 is in the archive for armel, you can sync boost-defaults. | 21:33 |
doko | ok | 21:33 |
pitti | cjwatson, slangasek, doko: FYI, I uploaded cdbs (merged with Debian, and cleaned up) | 23:31 |
pitti | good night! | 23:31 |
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