[00:01] kirkland: ping [00:17] How can a package have configs for cron or logrotate but not depend on those? [00:17] jMCg: its just dropping them.. it works just fine without them [00:17] jMCg: err.. dropping the configs there I mean [00:17] jMCg: usually it will recommend or suggest them though [00:19] hey [00:20] when downloading from a server, does it take up much processing power or ram? [00:23] no [00:23] glen1: it shouldn't anyway [00:24] could I max out the bandwidth(say 100mbit) and not have it max out the cpu? [00:24] * RoAkSoAx ends his day [00:25] glen1: that depends on things like the CPU type and the way storage is attached [00:25] ah, just curious bout that thanks SpamapS and JanC [00:26] if your server is a Commodore 64, it will max out the CPU long before you get to 100 Mbit/s ;) [00:26] with most modern hardware it shouldn't be an issue though [00:26] haha [00:36] these day that depends on the ethernet driver mostly. shitty cards will use more CPU [00:36] look through the kernel sources and find out which drivers have the most curse words, and avoid them :) [00:54] Hi [00:54] yo [00:54] I have installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS [00:55] is there a way to know when it has been installed [00:55] I mean which date [00:55] on desktop i find installer.log [00:55] under /var/log [00:55] i dont find anything on server [00:55] glen1: hi [00:56] Im a noob I have no clue sorry :P [00:59] kaushal: yes, the dates of the files under /var/log/installer [01:00] pmatulis: i dont have installer directort [01:00] directory* [01:30] * SpaceBass did the unthinkable [01:31] I did an ssh remote upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04... via vpn...and forgot it was running when I closed my laptop for the day... i [01:31] it appears do-distro-upgrade is smart enough to use byoubu - is that the case? history in the byoubu shell shows it as finishing successfully [01:37] SpaceBass: you should always use screen or byobu when doing anything system-changing remotely anyway :P [01:40] or tmux [01:41] or run it detached or whatever [01:43] yeah === eagles0513875 is now known as zz_eagles0513875 === rickspencer3_ is now known as JerryGarcia === JerryGarcia is now known as CherryGracia [04:22] hi all, I have an 8.04 box (not mine) that is failing to login as tty1 is respawning whenever a user is being authenticated, /etc/events.d/tty1 looks ok script content and permissions /dev/tty1 also anyone got any ideas Im lost with this one [04:35] Herbs: is tty2 ok? === IdleOne is now known as Narwhal [04:56] twb sorry have been in the ubuntu channel I tried editing the /etc/events.d/tty1 respawn to spawn tty2 and got the same [05:00] Please just answer the question [05:09] well if I set the respawn to use tty2 then surely that answers it no? [05:13] How do I change the timezone? [05:13] elb0w_: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata [05:14] ok will try [05:15] hmm [05:15] it says 00:14:51 EDT when [05:15] I set to America/New_York [05:17] wtf [05:17] :/ [05:40] What does "date --rfc-3339=seconds" say? [05:41] hello! how might i update from 11.04 beta to 11.04 the official release? [05:41] !upgrade [05:41] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade [05:42] juzzy_: for "beta" to "release" it is probably just applying package updates [05:42] twb, yes, i hoped so, but i still see gnome 2.3x [05:43] twb: it was correct, im just half asleep [05:43] 11.04 ships with gnome 2.30. [05:43] I thought its shipping with unity? [05:44] I wouldn't know about that, GUIs are off-topic for -server [05:44] I'm just quoting the version of the "gnome" package [05:45] yeah pretty sure they are going unity now, gnome3 wont be offered by default [05:45] need to add a ppa [05:45] ahh [05:45] where might i find said gnome 3.0 ppa? [05:46] you need 11.04 [05:46] ask in #ubuntu+1 [05:46] or google [05:47] night [06:21] IS it safe to uninstall FGLRX? [06:34] IMO it's not safe to install, so you're already screwed [06:41] New bug: #772158 in samba (main) "samba force group option fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772158 [08:13] hi there [08:15] i installed a 10.04 lts server a few days ago and i'm blocked with ethernet realtek chipset card, reading lot of faqs doing a lot of googleling but still blocked [08:15] :/ [08:18] grincheux, define "blocked" [08:19] in fact lspci -nn or -vvv doesn't show nothing about the card [08:19] and i tried to compile the r8168 module instead of the r8169 wich is present in the distro but doesn't work at all [08:19] grincheux, I know nothing about realtek drivers, but maybe the restricted drivers manager will have it. [08:20] smw i'll see about it [08:20] grincheux, damn, it looks like the still have not made a cli frontend to jockey [08:21] nm, jockey-text [08:21] grincheux, ^ [08:21] :/ [08:21] grincheux, didn't work? [08:21] sorry what dio u mean by jockey-test ? [08:22] -dio+do [08:22] grincheux, run the command sudo jockey-text [08:22] grincheux, I am assuming you have no gui btw [08:22] no have not [08:23] grincheux, did it work? [08:23] btw i tried also debian squeeze and sid and nothing to do to make this damned card working [08:24] command not found [08:24] grincheux, does it tell you the package to install? [08:24] grincheux, maybe jockey-common... [08:25] same not found [08:27] grincheux, sudo apt-get install jockey-common [08:27] then run jockey-text [08:27] grincheux, ubuntu should have told you the package to look in [08:27] smw, ok i'll [08:27] grincheux, run sudo jockey-text. Sudo is so hard to remember ;-) [08:28] hehe ure right about it [08:28] :-) [08:32] grincheux, did it work? [08:33] grincheux, damn... it just occurred to me that jockey uses internet... [08:48] yep and i have not internet on the box so it's a little bit tricky to do u know [08:55] grincheux, yep. I don't think it will be easy... buy a new nic [08:55] grincheux, they are 20 bucks and would save you alot of pain [09:07] smw yep but i only have pci express slots do u know a net card wich is fine in this kind of slots ? [09:08] grincheux, no idea. newegg.com :-) [09:20] k thk for all smw :-) [11:54] hi all has anyone here had any experience in creating an ubunut load balanced cluster? [11:55] or if they know where i can look to get some howto's on the subject [11:55] probably howtoforge... it depends on what kind of cluster you want [11:56] So, postfix... [11:56] I see this log entry: Apr 27 16:04:31 soy postfix/local[28653]: 479B15AC014: to=, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (delivered to mailbox) [11:56] 2 nginx instances in a pacemaker/corosync active/passive cluster as loadbalancers for webrequest loadbalancing to a farm of webservers with a shared storage works fine [11:56] But I can't see a message in /var/mail/jane (mbox), nor can I see a ~jane/.forward [11:57] yeah i tried howtoforge but i cant seem to get any of them working I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience in getting it up and running [11:57] im getting stuck on the shared storage stuff [11:58] the end server will be running 4 nodes with netatalk file services for a fleet of MAC's === mdz` is now known as mdz === nickmoeck is now known as no_it_isnt === no_it_isnt is now known as nickmoeck === guampa is now known as ohmandonstartcha === ohmandonstartcha is now known as ttinwyrnicks === ttinwyrnicks is now known as wearallliars === wearallliars is now known as guampa === nickmoeck is now known as Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh === Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh is now known as nickmoeck === nickmoeck is now known as CanWePleaseTalkN === CanWePleaseTalkN is now known as nickmoeck [13:23] anyone have a recommendation on what package to use to provide DHCPv6 service from a pair of Ubuntu machines in a fault-tolerant configuration. I specifically want DHCPv6 over SLAAC. [13:23] Pumpkin-: i did a test with dhcpd-test [13:23] *server [13:23] and was working [13:24] okay, sounds good. I can see a bunch of potential packages, but if good old isc-dhcpd will do it, that will be good. [13:29] Note that DHCPv6 is only needed for additional info -- discovering an IP and available routes is all automatic in IPv6 land [13:32] twb: yeah, I specifically don't want to use SLAAC for some crazy requirements about logging things. [13:33] Oh, I see [13:33] I misread you as saying "DHCPv6 over SLAAC" as in "I have SLAAC and I want to run DHCPv6 on top of it" [13:33] ITYM "instead of" or "in preference to" [13:34] If you just have logging requirements, you could always have something like tcpdump log the SLAAC traffic [13:39] good morning Daviey [13:47] New bug: #772327 in xinetd (main) "Upstart script "restart" won't restart service" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772327 === joschi_ is now known as joschi === Nigel_ is now known as G === klaas_ is now known as klaas === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro [14:08] morning all [14:08] TREllis: ping [14:08] negronjl: ping === jjohansen is now known as jj-afk === zz_eagles0513875 is now known as eagles0513875 [15:21] Can anyone recomend a bandwidth monitoring package that allow you to line up your billing cycle [15:21] Im using vnstat2 and have the 17 set as my roll over day but when ever i look at the stats it just shows the standard 1-3* data === eagles0513875 is now known as zz_eagles0513875 [15:46] Daviey: we gotta talk, sir [15:50] hggdh, hello! [15:50] hggdh, fancy a call? [15:57] Daviey: certainly === kirkland` is now known as kirkland [16:01] hggdh: while you're chatting it up...can you close out https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-uec-qa [16:02] robbiew: sir, yes sir! ;-) [16:02] hggdh: ;) thnx [16:08] i did a "tasksel remove virt-host" and my desktop began to be removed. normal? === zz_eagles0513875 is now known as eagles0513875 === eagles0513875 is now known as zz_eagles0513875 === zz_eagles0513875 is now known as eagles0513875 === eagles0513875 is now known as zz_eagles0513875 === zz_eagles0513875 is now known as eagles0513875 [16:29] (having no luck in #ubuntu....) at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades#AlternateUpgrade it says to gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" but the natty cdrom doesn't have a cdromupgrade file. What's up? [16:30] nealmcb: what natty CD dod you have? [16:31] s/dod/do/ [16:31] JanC: ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso [16:31] nealmcb: those instructions are for the alternate CD ? [16:31] hmmm - that's il.... [16:32] thx [16:32] is there any particular reason why there are no natty torrents on the v6 tracker? [16:42] so ubuntu doesn't install /usr/bin/mail by default? [16:43] no, there are packages for that [16:43] just run 'mail' and ubuntu will tell you where to find it === eagles0513875 is now known as zz_eagles0513875 === zz_eagles0513875 is now known as eagles0513875 === jj-afk is now known as jjohansen === eagles0513875 is now known as zz_eagles0513875 === zz_eagles0513875 is now known as eagles0513875 === Narwhal is now known as IdleOne [18:23] soren: hey how did etherpad end up working for you guys? [18:24] jcastro: I think it's holding up reasonably well. I'm not sure how badly we're beating on it, though. [18:25] jcastro: while there are hundreds of attendees here, I'm not sure how many are actually using etherpad. [18:30] soren: ok [18:30] thanks! [18:31] jcastro: Sure! [18:32] * SpamapS is sure if etherpad used mongodb it would be web scale. [18:48] I've just done a fresh 11.04 server install, and I'm having some trouble getting it to output a display my monitor will actually display. I'd be more than happy with just a 80x25 text display, but I can't even stop the grub2 boot process with shift to even think about setting some boot flags [18:52] Pumpkin-: you should see grub without pressing shift for 3 seconds [18:54] yeah, this is bizzaro, but I think grub is setting some video mode the monitor isn't liking [18:54] Can anyone point me to a guide on setting up additional interfaces on ubuntu server? My server has another IP available, but I'm responsible for configuring the interface. [18:54] if I just leave it long enough, it boots and gives me a nice old 80x25 console [18:55] Pumpkin-: there's a setting to make sure grub is text only.. [18:56] Pumpkin-: try /etc/default/grub GRUB_TERMINAL=console [18:56] cheers, giving that a shot now [18:56] Pumpkin-: and if you wouldn't mind filing a bug with your monitor's specs, that would help us avoid the issue later. :) [18:57] sure [18:57] All the howto's I can find on google simply point to switching from DHCP to static IP, but I want to add an additional static IP address. [18:58] pumpkin, older motherboard? with onboard video? [18:58] savid: edit /etc/network/interfaces [18:58] patdk-wk: its whatever is in this HP Proliant DL360 G4 (which is a bit old, yes) [18:58] savid: and 'man interfaces' [18:59] hmm, ati rage [19:00] not sure about that one [19:02] SpamapS: did you do the samba sru for the upsstart job? === paul__ is now known as orudie [19:03] zul: yes [19:03] SpamapS, ok cool [19:03] just asking [19:05] okay, but report coming in when I get back to a real machine. I've just tried it with a more modern monitor too, both monitors say "signal out of range". === Andre_Gondim is now known as Lucas_Laudeci === Lucas_Laudeci is now known as Andre_Gondim === The-Comp1ler is now known as The-Compiler [19:09] but forcing grub into console mode has the thing booting at least, thanks [19:11] how would one go about getting there server viewable on net [19:14] Pumpkin-: DL380 G4's are amazing machines. ;) [19:14] Pumpkin-: had one stay up for about 30 months straight [19:15] Pumpkin-: thanks, btw.. let us know if you need help w/ the bug report [19:15] Pumpkin-: the best way is to run 'ubuntu-bug grub-pc' on the box itself [19:16] Pumpkin-: then once its collected/sent the info, copy the link to your real machine and finish the report [19:17] Spamaps: hey, I'm validating bug 761971 . What is the expected result when "boot degraded disk" is false and a disk is disconnected? Should the system hang on a blank screen or should there be some sort of message? [19:17] Launchpad bug 761971 in mdadm "no notification that one of the disks has been disconnected in a raid 1 configurtion" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/761971 [19:17] patrickmw_: it should stop and ask you if you want to boot degraded or not [19:19] patrickmw_: note the link to http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerRAID1 in the description [19:20] SpamapS: I had a long wait time before the system started to boot. So ignore that. But, now that the system booted, I still did not get prompted whether to boot or not. [19:21] I'm double checking the mdadm version [19:22] patrickmw_: make sure also that when you installed it triggerd update-initramfs [19:23] patrickmw_: and make sure its actually degraded (cat /proc/mdstat) [19:24] I only test on kvm so it may be very different w/ hardware :-/ [19:24] SpamapS, I think that was the problem :) I just restarted again and I got the key prompts [19:25] Spamaps, sorry to bother, thanks [19:25] patrickmw_: no apologies necessary, THANK YOU for testing! [19:25] * SpamapS bear hugs patrickmw_ [19:26] Spamaps, hehe np. [19:26] man I hope this turns out to be a hardware issue :( my lvm partition keeps getting mysteriously corrupted [19:42] robertj: pay it more and threaten it with legal action if it can't stay on the straight and narrow. ;) [19:42] Dude, I already built temple in each of my server closets and great paramid [19:44] there's your problem... gotta slay a goat [19:48] hey iam using ubuntu server 10.10 and need some assistance on troubleshooting my mail server it has suddenly stopped sending and recieving mail [19:51] ublunt: Have you noticed anything weird in /var/log/mail.* ? [19:53] so that would be the first thing i would do is check my log/mail? [19:58] ublunt: yes logs generally are the first place to look for clues === andreas__ is now known as ahasenack [20:14] hey all, anyone mind offering some advice on LVM? i'd like to set it up, but i obviously want to backup my data - which i'll need to get a new hard disk to backup all my data. [20:15] how do i get a more verbose log/output of a package install? is there a proper way (not using strace) to do that? [20:28] arrrghhh: what is your question? [20:28] well i assume i have to format to switch to lvm [20:28] so i need to buy a new hard disk to back everything up [20:29] then do i add LVM to the other disks, move the data, and then add the new hard disk into LVM? [20:29] i've never used it before, but i've done a lot of reading so i have basic concepts [20:29] arrrghhh: you need to start over if you want to use LVM on existing partitions [20:29] my 'main'/boot disk i don't think i will add lvm to [20:30] only the 'data' disks [20:30] and i understand the existing partitions need to go. so i need to buy another hdd, backup everything to the new hdd [20:30] then apply lvm to the old disks [20:30] arrrghhh: add hard drive, put on lvm, transfer data [20:30] move data again [20:30] add new disk using lvm ? [20:31] of course, that's what you want right? [20:31] it also seems like a good idea to leave some raw/unpartitioned space so i can expand the sections later [20:31] well if i could add lvm without backing up data that would be ideal [20:31] there you go [20:31] but it seems necessary step [20:31] no? [20:31] arrrghhh: add hard drive, put on lvm, transfer data [20:31] oh start new hdd with lvm [20:31] backup data [20:32] to lvm disk [20:32] then format old disks and add them to lvm [20:32] right [20:32] ah ha, that will be much easier. [20:32] either way, i'm buying a new hard disk tho yea? [20:33] i'm having a heck of a time finding information on this. are ports closed on ubuntu server? I'm used to the desktop edition :p [20:33] i don't have enough disk space to backup all my data. [20:33] pdg1, yes [20:33] no ports are open by default [20:33] no services are listening by default [20:33] same on desktop edition [20:33] alright [20:33] thanks :) [20:34] np [20:34] if you're going to run a service like apache pdg1 [20:34] or any service really, might want to use a firewall. ufw makes iptables easy. [20:34] ufw? [20:34] ultimate fire wall? [20:34] lol [20:34] uncomplicated [20:34] !ufw [20:34] Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist. [20:34] but you can think ultimate, that works. [20:34] kirkland: howdy! Is it possible to specify the mirror to the archive to use when using the NQA preseed? [20:35] ah, i forget about the bang commands :P [20:35] RoAkSoAx: hmm, not really; it's totally static [20:35] RoAkSoAx: we need to generate the NQA preseed [20:35] mama pajama... that's awesome :) [20:36] kirkland: right, but in the preseed we would be able to specify what mirror to use if we generate it, right? [20:36] RoAkSoAx: oh, yeah, absolutely [20:36] kirkland: so kinda like: import mini.iso, enable reposync by debmirroring, and then generate the preseed to point to the reposync created by cobbler... [20:37] s/to the reposync/mirror/ [20:43] pmatulis, thx for the help. i'm a little nervous about the process, but i have a lot more reading to do before i attempt it ;) [20:44] RoAkSoAx: right [21:30] why is there both python2.6 and python2.7 in natty? [21:36] andriijas: because its nice for users to be able to upgrade their local scripts separately from the os upgrade [21:40] as far as i know 2.7 is totally backwards compatible with 2.6, except that it adds deprecation warnings to 3.x stuff [21:41] is this the right channel for asking about setting up an irc server === SWAT_ is now known as SWAT [22:07] hello.. I am trying to cat /etc/lsb-release to find the version of this old ubuntu server, but that file doesn't exist. any guesses as to what other file I can look in for clue as to release version? [22:07] I suspect it's because this machine is too old [22:10] sources.list? [22:12] alamar, thanks I'll have a look === miloj_ is now known as miloj [22:41] /proc/version? [23:00] bluethundr: cat /etc/issue [23:01] zul tx! [23:10] I'm running into an issue on an Ubuntu KVM server install where the the qcow2 image is created, but the guest is not defined in libvirt. [23:10] I'm running vmbuilder, and I don't see any errors with the script running with the --debug flag. [23:10] I have this issue reproduced with two servers, [23:11] but I have other servers working with the same provision script. [23:12] quentusrex: you're using --libvirt flag or whatever it is? [23:12] what's a good tool for taking a full image of an ubuntu server install and restoring it to a fresh hard drive? [23:13] <_SHuN_> hypetech: dd [23:13] hallyn, yes, I believe so. [23:14] --libvirt qemu:///system [23:14] and virsh --list all works fine. [23:15] _SHuN_: how can you restore a DD image on a blank drive? [23:15] the same way you made a dd image :) [23:15] quentusrex: best to file a bug against vmbuilder. show full cmdline and virsh list --all results before/after. [23:15] <_SHuN_> hypetech: dd if=image of=destination [23:17] _SHuN_: hmm, could I DD to/from a network location from a live CD? [23:19] I notice in a fresh install of natty, that services like acpid and irqbalance are not set to run. Are these not needed anymore? I intend to use the box as a qemu-KVM server [23:19] <_SHuN_> hypetech: i believe that's possible through a ssh pipe [23:20] _SHuN_: alright, thanks [23:22] <_SHuN_> hypetech: something like that... ssh user@hostname dd if=image | dd of=destination [23:28] hey folks [23:29] have a server box that has a failed upgrade to 11.04 - trying to recover using a recovery CD. I did a series of apt-get -f and dpkg --configure -a .... that made some progress, however it appears to have reached the end. dpgk --configure -a keeps failing [23:29] can I force a re-application of the upgrade? [23:57] SpaceBass, just out of curiosity which version was it previously on your server ? [23:58] Any solutions to keystroke lag over SSH to a server with minimal load and a low latency traceroute?