[00:01] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ping
[00:17] <jMCg> How can a package have configs for cron or logrotate but not depend on those?
[00:17] <SpamapS> jMCg: its just dropping them.. it works just fine without them
[00:17] <SpamapS> jMCg: err.. dropping the configs there I mean
[00:17] <SpamapS> jMCg: usually it will recommend or suggest them though
[00:19] <glen1> hey
[00:20] <glen1> when downloading from a server, does it take up much processing power or ram?
[00:23] <SpamapS> no
[00:23] <SpamapS> glen1: it shouldn't anyway
[00:24] <glen1> could I max out the bandwidth(say 100mbit) and not have it max out the cpu?
[00:24]  * RoAkSoAx ends his day
[00:25] <JanC> glen1: that depends on things like the CPU type and the way storage is attached
[00:25] <glen1> ah, just curious bout that thanks SpamapS and JanC
[00:26] <JanC> if your server is a Commodore 64, it will max out the CPU long before you get to 100 Mbit/s  ;)
[00:26] <JanC> with most modern hardware it shouldn't be an issue though
[00:26] <glen1> haha
[00:36] <kellnola_> these day that depends on the ethernet driver mostly. shitty cards will use more CPU
[00:36] <kellnola_> look through the kernel sources and find out which drivers have the most curse words, and avoid them :)
[00:54] <kaushal> Hi
[00:54] <glen1> yo
[00:54] <kaushal> I have installed Ubuntu 10.04 LTS
[00:55] <kaushal> is there a way to know when it has been installed
[00:55] <kaushal> I mean which date
[00:55] <kaushal> on desktop i find installer.log
[00:55] <kaushal> under /var/log
[00:55] <kaushal> i dont find anything on server
[00:55] <kaushal> glen1: hi
[00:56] <glen1> Im a noob I have no clue sorry :P
[00:59] <pmatulis> kaushal: yes, the dates of the files under /var/log/installer
[01:00] <kaushal> pmatulis: i dont have installer directort
[01:00] <kaushal> directory*
[01:30]  * SpaceBass did the unthinkable
[01:31] <SpaceBass> I did an ssh remote upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04... via vpn...and forgot it was running when I closed my laptop for the day...   i
[01:31] <SpaceBass> it appears do-distro-upgrade is smart enough to use byoubu - is that the case? history in the byoubu shell shows it as finishing successfully
[01:37] <JanC> SpaceBass: you should always use screen or byobu when doing anything system-changing remotely anyway   :P
[01:40] <twb> or tmux
[01:41] <JanC> or run it detached or whatever
[01:43] <twb> yeah
[04:22] <Herbs> hi all, I have an 8.04 box (not mine) that is failing to login as tty1 is respawning whenever a user is being authenticated, /etc/events.d/tty1 looks ok script content and permissions /dev/tty1 also anyone got any ideas Im lost with this one
[04:35] <twb> Herbs: is tty2 ok?
[04:56] <Herbs> twb sorry have been in the ubuntu channel I tried editing the /etc/events.d/tty1 respawn to spawn tty2 and got the same
[05:00] <twb> Please just answer the question
[05:09] <Herbs> well if I set the respawn to use tty2 then surely that answers it no?
[05:13] <elb0w_> How do I change the timezone?
[05:13] <twb> elb0w_: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[05:14] <elb0w_> ok will try
[05:15] <elb0w_> hmm
[05:15] <elb0w_> it says 00:14:51 EDT when
[05:15] <elb0w_> I set to America/New_York
[05:17] <elb0w_> wtf
[05:17] <elb0w_> :/
[05:40] <twb> What does "date --rfc-3339=seconds" say?
[05:41] <juzzy_> hello! how might i update from 11.04 beta to 11.04 the official release?
[05:41] <twb> !upgrade
[05:42] <twb> juzzy_: for "beta" to "release" it is probably just applying package updates
[05:42] <juzzy_> twb, yes, i hoped so, but i still see gnome 2.3x
[05:43] <elb0w_> twb: it was correct, im just half asleep
[05:43] <twb> 11.04 ships with gnome 2.30.
[05:43] <elb0w_> I thought its shipping with unity?
[05:44] <twb> I wouldn't know about that, GUIs are off-topic for -server
[05:44] <twb> I'm just quoting the version of the "gnome" package
[05:45] <elb0w_> yeah pretty sure they are going unity now, gnome3 wont be offered by default
[05:45] <elb0w_> need to add a ppa
[05:45] <juzzy_> ahh
[05:45] <juzzy_> where might i find said gnome 3.0 ppa?
[05:46] <elb0w_> you need 11.04
[05:46] <elb0w_> ask in #ubuntu+1
[05:46] <elb0w_> or google
[05:47] <elb0w_> night
[06:21] <juzzy_> IS it safe to uninstall FGLRX?
[06:34] <twb> IMO it's not safe to install, so you're already screwed
[08:13] <grincheux> hi there
[08:15] <grincheux> i installed a 10.04 lts server a few days ago and i'm blocked with ethernet realtek chipset card, reading lot of faqs doing a lot of googleling but still blocked
[08:15] <grincheux> :/
[08:18] <smw> grincheux, define "blocked"
[08:19] <grincheux> in fact lspci -nn or -vvv doesn't show nothing about the card
[08:19] <grincheux> and i tried to compile the r8168 module instead of the r8169 wich is present in the distro but doesn't work at all
[08:19] <smw> grincheux, I know nothing about realtek drivers, but maybe the restricted drivers manager will have it.
[08:20] <grincheux> smw i'll see about it
[08:20] <smw> grincheux, damn, it looks like the still have not made a cli frontend to jockey
[08:21] <smw> nm, jockey-text
[08:21] <smw> grincheux, ^
[08:21] <grincheux> :/
[08:21] <smw> grincheux, didn't work?
[08:21] <grincheux> sorry what dio u mean by jockey-test ?
[08:22] <grincheux> -dio+do
[08:22] <smw> grincheux, run the command sudo jockey-text
[08:22] <smw> grincheux, I am assuming you have no gui btw
[08:22] <grincheux> no have not
[08:23] <smw> grincheux, did it work?
[08:23] <grincheux> btw i tried also debian squeeze and sid and nothing to do to make this damned card working
[08:24] <grincheux> command not found
[08:24] <smw> grincheux, does it tell you the package to install?
[08:24] <smw> grincheux, maybe jockey-common...
[08:25] <grincheux> same not found
[08:27] <smw> grincheux, sudo apt-get install jockey-common
[08:27] <smw> then run jockey-text
[08:27] <smw> grincheux, ubuntu should have told you the package to look in
[08:27] <grincheux> smw, ok i'll
[08:27] <smw> grincheux, run sudo jockey-text. Sudo is so hard to remember ;-)
[08:28] <grincheux> hehe ure right about it
[08:28] <grincheux> :-)
[08:32] <smw> grincheux, did it work?
[08:33] <smw> grincheux, damn... it just occurred to me that jockey uses internet...
[08:48] <grincheux> yep and i have not internet on the box so it's a little bit tricky to do u know
[08:55] <smw> grincheux, yep. I don't think it will be easy... buy a new nic
[08:55] <smw> grincheux, they are 20 bucks and would save you alot of pain
[09:07] <grincheux> smw yep but i only have pci express slots do u know a net card wich is fine in this kind of slots ?
[09:08] <smw> grincheux, no idea. newegg.com :-)
[09:20] <grincheux> k thk for all smw :-)
[11:54] <kyleh0000> hi all has anyone here had any experience in creating an ubunut load balanced cluster?
[11:55] <kyleh0000> or if they know where i can look to get some howto's on the subject
[11:55] <alamar> probably howtoforge... it depends on what kind of cluster you want
[11:56] <twb> So, postfix...
[11:56] <twb> I see this log entry: Apr 27 16:04:31 soy postfix/local[28653]: 479B15AC014: to=<jane@soy.cyber.com.au>, relay=local, delay=0, status=sent (delivered to mailbox)
[11:56] <alamar> 2 nginx instances in a pacemaker/corosync active/passive cluster as loadbalancers  for webrequest loadbalancing to a farm of webservers with a shared storage works fine
[11:56] <twb> But I can't see a message in /var/mail/jane (mbox), nor can I see a ~jane/.forward
[11:57] <kyleh0000> yeah i tried howtoforge but i cant seem to get any of them working I was just wondering if anyone has had any experience in getting it up and running
[11:57] <kyleh0000> im getting stuck on the shared storage stuff
[11:58] <kyleh0000> the end server will be running 4 nodes with netatalk file services for a fleet of MAC's
[13:23] <Pumpkin-> anyone have a recommendation on what package to use to provide DHCPv6 service from a pair of Ubuntu machines in a fault-tolerant configuration. I specifically want DHCPv6 over SLAAC.
[13:23] <remix_tj> Pumpkin-: i did a test with dhcpd-test
[13:23] <remix_tj> *server
[13:23] <remix_tj> and was working
[13:24] <Pumpkin-> okay, sounds good. I can see a bunch of potential packages, but if good old isc-dhcpd will do it, that will be good.
[13:29] <twb> Note that DHCPv6 is only needed for additional info -- discovering an IP and available routes is all automatic in IPv6 land
[13:32] <Pumpkin-> twb: yeah, I specifically don't want to use SLAAC for some crazy requirements about logging things.
[13:33] <twb> Oh, I see
[13:33] <twb> I misread you as saying "DHCPv6 over SLAAC" as in "I have SLAAC and I want to run DHCPv6 on top of it"
[13:33] <twb> ITYM "instead of" or "in preference to"
[13:34] <twb> If you just have logging requirements, you could always have something like tcpdump log the SLAAC traffic
[13:39] <hggdh> good morning Daviey
[14:08] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:08] <RoAkSoAx> TREllis: ping
[14:08] <RoAkSoAx> negronjl: ping
[15:21] <Doonz> Can anyone recomend a bandwidth monitoring package that allow you to line up your billing cycle
[15:21] <Doonz> Im using vnstat2 and have the 17 set as my roll over day but when ever i look at the stats it just shows the standard 1-3* data
[15:46] <hggdh> Daviey: we gotta talk, sir
[15:50] <Daviey> hggdh, hello!
[15:50] <Daviey> hggdh, fancy a call?
[15:57] <hggdh> Daviey: certainly
[16:01] <robbiew> hggdh: while you're chatting it up...can you close out https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-uec-qa
[16:02] <hggdh> robbiew: sir, yes sir! ;-)
[16:02] <robbiew> hggdh: ;) thnx
[16:08] <pmatulis> i did a "tasksel remove virt-host" and my desktop began to be removed.  normal?
[16:29] <nealmcb> (having no luck in #ubuntu....) at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades#AlternateUpgrade it says to   gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"   but the natty cdrom doesn't have a cdromupgrade file.  What's up?
[16:30] <JanC> nealmcb: what natty CD dod you have?
[16:31] <JanC> s/dod/do/
[16:31] <nealmcb> JanC: ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64.iso
[16:31] <JanC> nealmcb: those instructions are for the alternate CD ?
[16:31] <nealmcb> hmmm - that's il....
[16:32] <nealmcb> thx
[16:32] <alamar> is there any particular reason why there are no natty torrents on the v6 tracker?
[16:42] <robos> so ubuntu doesn't install /usr/bin/mail by default?
[16:43] <RoyK> no, there are packages for that
[16:43] <RoyK> just run 'mail' and ubuntu will tell you where to find it
[18:23] <jcastro> soren: hey how did etherpad end up working for you guys?
[18:24] <soren> jcastro: I think it's holding up reasonably well. I'm not sure how badly we're beating on it, though.
[18:25] <soren> jcastro: while there are hundreds of attendees here, I'm not sure how many are actually using etherpad.
[18:30] <jcastro> soren: ok
[18:30] <jcastro> thanks!
[18:31] <soren> jcastro: Sure!
[18:32]  * SpamapS is sure if etherpad used mongodb it would be web scale.
[18:48] <Pumpkin-> I've just done a fresh 11.04 server install, and I'm having some trouble getting it to output a display my monitor will actually display. I'd be more than happy with just a 80x25 text display, but I can't even stop the grub2 boot process with shift to even think about setting some boot flags
[18:52] <SpamapS> Pumpkin-: you should see grub without pressing shift for 3 seconds
[18:54] <Pumpkin-> yeah, this is bizzaro, but I think grub is setting some video mode the monitor isn't liking
[18:54] <savid> Can anyone point me to a guide on setting up additional interfaces on ubuntu server?   My server has another IP available, but I'm responsible for configuring the interface.
[18:54] <Pumpkin-> if I just leave it long enough, it boots and gives me a nice old 80x25 console
[18:55] <SpamapS> Pumpkin-: there's a setting to make sure grub is text only..
[18:56] <SpamapS> Pumpkin-: try /etc/default/grub   GRUB_TERMINAL=console
[18:56] <Pumpkin-> cheers, giving that a shot now
[18:56] <SpamapS> Pumpkin-: and if you wouldn't mind filing a bug with your monitor's specs, that would help us avoid the issue later. :)
[18:57] <Pumpkin-> sure
[18:57] <savid> All the howto's I can find on google simply point to switching from DHCP to static IP,  but I want to add an additional static IP address.
[18:58] <patdk-wk> pumpkin, older motherboard? with onboard video?
[18:58] <pmatulis> savid: edit /etc/network/interfaces
[18:58] <Pumpkin-> patdk-wk: its whatever is in this HP Proliant DL360 G4 (which is a bit old, yes)
[18:58] <pmatulis> savid: and 'man interfaces'
[18:59] <patdk-wk> hmm, ati rage
[19:00] <patdk-wk> not sure about that one
[19:02] <zul> SpamapS: did you do the samba sru for the upsstart job?
[19:03] <SpamapS> zul: yes
[19:03] <zul> SpamapS, ok cool
[19:03] <zul> just asking
[19:05] <Pumpkin-> okay, but report coming in when I get back to a real machine. I've just tried it with a more modern monitor too, both monitors say "signal out of range".
[19:09] <Pumpkin-> but forcing grub into console mode has the thing booting at least, thanks
[19:11] <strigoi66> how would one go about getting there server viewable on net
[19:14] <SpamapS> Pumpkin-: DL380 G4's are amazing machines. ;)
[19:14] <SpamapS> Pumpkin-: had one stay up for about 30 months straight
[19:15] <SpamapS> Pumpkin-: thanks, btw.. let us know if you need help w/ the bug report
[19:15] <SpamapS> Pumpkin-: the best way is to run 'ubuntu-bug grub-pc' on the box itself
[19:16] <SpamapS> Pumpkin-: then once its collected/sent the info, copy the link to your real machine and finish the report
[19:17] <patrickmw_> Spamaps: hey, I'm validating bug 761971 . What is the expected result when "boot degraded disk" is false and a disk is disconnected?  Should the system hang on a blank screen or should there be some sort of message?
[19:17] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 761971 in mdadm "no notification that one of the disks has been disconnected in a raid 1 configurtion" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/761971
[19:17] <SpamapS> patrickmw_: it should stop and ask you if you want to boot degraded or not
[19:19] <SpamapS> patrickmw_: note the link to http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Install/ServerRAID1 in the description
[19:20] <patrickmw_> SpamapS:  I had a long wait time before the system started to boot.   So ignore that.  But, now that the system booted, I still did not get prompted whether to boot or not.
[19:21] <patrickmw_> I'm double checking the mdadm version
[19:22] <SpamapS> patrickmw_: make sure also that when you installed it triggerd update-initramfs
[19:23] <SpamapS> patrickmw_: and make sure its actually degraded (cat /proc/mdstat)
[19:24] <SpamapS> I only test on kvm so it may be very different w/ hardware :-/
[19:24] <patrickmw_> SpamapS, I think that was the problem :)  I just restarted again and I got the key prompts
[19:25] <patrickmw_> Spamaps, sorry to bother, thanks
[19:25] <SpamapS> patrickmw_: no apologies necessary, THANK YOU for testing!
[19:25]  * SpamapS bear hugs patrickmw_ 
[19:26] <patrickmw_> Spamaps, hehe np.
[19:26] <robertj> man I hope this turns out to be a hardware issue :( my lvm partition keeps getting mysteriously corrupted
[19:42] <SpamapS> robertj: pay it more and threaten it with legal action if it can't stay on the straight and narrow. ;)
[19:42] <robertj> Dude, I already built temple in each of my server closets and great paramid
[19:44] <SpamapS> there's your problem... gotta slay a goat
[19:48] <ublunt> hey iam using ubuntu server 10.10 and need some assistance on troubleshooting my mail server it has suddenly stopped sending and recieving mail
[19:51] <Pici> ublunt: Have you noticed anything weird in /var/log/mail.* ?
[19:53] <ublunt> so that would be the first thing i would do is check my log/mail?
[19:58] <SpamapS> ublunt: yes logs generally are the first place to look for clues
[20:14] <arrrghhh> hey all, anyone mind offering some advice on LVM?  i'd like to set it up, but i obviously want to backup my data - which i'll need to get a new hard disk to backup all my data.
[20:15] <pmatulis> how do i get a more verbose log/output of a package install?  is there a proper way (not using strace) to do that?
[20:28] <pmatulis> arrrghhh: what is your question?
[20:28] <arrrghhh> well i assume i have to format to switch to lvm
[20:28] <arrrghhh> so i need to buy a new hard disk to back everything up
[20:29] <arrrghhh> then do i add LVM to the other disks, move the data, and then add the new hard disk into LVM?
[20:29] <arrrghhh> i've never used it before, but i've done a lot of reading so i have basic concepts
[20:29] <pmatulis> arrrghhh: you need to start over if you want to use LVM on existing partitions
[20:29] <arrrghhh> my 'main'/boot disk i don't think i will add lvm to
[20:30] <arrrghhh> only the 'data' disks
[20:30] <arrrghhh> and i understand the existing partitions need to go.  so i need to buy another hdd, backup everything to the new hdd
[20:30] <arrrghhh> then apply lvm to the old disks
[20:30] <pmatulis> arrrghhh: add hard drive, put on lvm, transfer data
[20:30] <arrrghhh> move data again
[20:30] <arrrghhh> add new disk using lvm ?
[20:31] <pmatulis> of course, that's what you want right?
[20:31] <arrrghhh> it also seems like a good idea to leave some raw/unpartitioned space so i can expand the sections later
[20:31] <arrrghhh> well if i could add lvm without backing up data that would be ideal
[20:31] <pmatulis> there you go
[20:31] <arrrghhh> but it seems necessary step
[20:31] <arrrghhh> no?
[20:31] <pmatulis> arrrghhh: add hard drive, put on lvm, transfer data
[20:31] <arrrghhh> oh start new hdd with lvm
[20:31] <arrrghhh> backup data
[20:32] <arrrghhh> to lvm disk
[20:32] <arrrghhh> then format old disks and add them to lvm
[20:32] <pmatulis> right
[20:32] <arrrghhh> ah ha, that will be much easier.
[20:32] <arrrghhh> either way, i'm buying a new hard disk tho yea?
[20:33] <pdg1> i'm having a heck of a time finding information on this. are ports closed on ubuntu server? I'm used to the desktop edition :p
[20:33] <arrrghhh> i don't have enough disk space to backup all my data.
[20:33] <arrrghhh> pdg1, yes
[20:33] <arrrghhh> no ports are open by default
[20:33] <arrrghhh> no services are listening by default
[20:33] <arrrghhh> same on desktop edition
[20:33] <pdg1> alright
[20:33] <pdg1> thanks :)
[20:34] <arrrghhh> np
[20:34] <arrrghhh> if you're going to run a service like apache pdg1
[20:34] <arrrghhh> or any service really, might want to use a firewall.  ufw makes iptables easy.
[20:34] <pdg1> ufw?
[20:34] <pdg1> ultimate fire wall?
[20:34] <arrrghhh> lol
[20:34] <arrrghhh> uncomplicated
[20:34] <pmatulis> !ufw
[20:34] <arrrghhh> but you can think ultimate, that works.
[20:34] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: howdy! Is it possible to specify the mirror to the archive to use when using the NQA preseed?
[20:35] <arrrghhh> ah, i forget about the bang commands :P
[20:35] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: hmm, not really;  it's totally static
[20:35] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: we need to generate the NQA preseed
[20:35] <pdg1> mama pajama... that's awesome :)
[20:36] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: right, but in the preseed we would be able to specify what mirror to use if we generate it, right?
[20:36] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: oh, yeah, absolutely
[20:36] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: so kinda like: import mini.iso, enable reposync by debmirroring, and then generate the preseed to point to the reposync created by cobbler...
[20:37] <RoAkSoAx> s/to the reposync/mirror/
[20:43] <arrrghhh> pmatulis, thx for the help.  i'm a little nervous about the process, but i have a lot more reading to do before i attempt it ;)
[20:44] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: right
[21:30] <andriijas> why is there both python2.6 and python2.7 in natty?
[21:36] <lifeless> andriijas: because its nice for users to be able to upgrade their local scripts separately from the os upgrade
[21:40] <andriijas> as far as i know 2.7 is totally backwards compatible with 2.6, except that it adds deprecation warnings to 3.x stuff
[21:41] <coco> is this the right channel for asking about setting up an irc server
[22:07] <bluethundr> hello.. I am trying to cat /etc/lsb-release to find the version of this old ubuntu server, but that file doesn't exist. any guesses as to what other file I can look in for clue as to release version?
[22:07] <bluethundr> I suspect it's because this machine is too old
[22:10] <alamar> sources.list?
[22:12] <bluethundr> alamar, thanks I'll have a look
[22:41] <jMCg> /proc/version?
[23:00] <zul> bluethundr: cat /etc/issue
[23:01] <bluethundr> zul tx!
[23:10] <quentusrex> I'm running into an issue on an Ubuntu KVM server install where the the qcow2 image is created, but the guest is not defined  in libvirt.
[23:10] <quentusrex> I'm running vmbuilder, and I don't see any errors with the script running with the --debug flag.
[23:10] <quentusrex> I have this issue reproduced with two servers,
[23:11] <quentusrex> but I have other servers working with the same provision script.
[23:12] <hallyn> quentusrex: you're using --libvirt flag or whatever it is?
[23:12] <hypetech> what's a good tool for taking a full image of an ubuntu server install and restoring it to a fresh hard drive?
[23:13] <_SHuN_> hypetech: dd
[23:13] <quentusrex> hallyn, yes, I believe so.
[23:14] <quentusrex>   --libvirt qemu:///system
[23:14] <quentusrex> and virsh --list all works fine.
[23:15] <hypetech> _SHuN_: how can you restore a DD image on a blank drive?
[23:15] <Patrickdk> the same way you made a dd image :)
[23:15] <hallyn> quentusrex:  best to file a bug against vmbuilder.  show full cmdline and virsh list --all results before/after.
[23:15] <_SHuN_> hypetech: dd if=image of=destination
[23:17] <hypetech> _SHuN_: hmm, could I DD to/from a network location from a live CD?
[23:19] <compdoc> I notice in a fresh install of natty, that services like acpid and irqbalance are not set to run. Are these not needed anymore? I intend to use the box as a qemu-KVM server
[23:19] <_SHuN_> hypetech: i believe that's possible through a ssh pipe
[23:20] <hypetech> _SHuN_: alright, thanks
[23:22] <_SHuN_> hypetech: something like that... ssh user@hostname dd if=image | dd of=destination
[23:28] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[23:29] <SpaceBass> have a server box that has a failed upgrade to 11.04 - trying to recover using a recovery CD. I did a series of apt-get -f and dpkg --configure -a .... that made some progress, however it appears to have reached the end. dpgk --configure -a keeps failing
[23:29] <SpaceBass> can I force a re-application of the upgrade?
[23:57] <nimrod10> SpaceBass,  just out of curiosity which version was it previously on your server ?
[23:58] <hypetech> Any solutions to keystroke lag over SSH to a server with minimal load and a low latency traceroute?