[01:26] <erichammond> Natty increased my usable vertical space by moving the application menus to the top bar.
[01:26] <erichammond> Then I gained even more when I realized I have no need for window decorations.  It looks odd at first,but I'm loving it now.
[01:27] <erichammond> window decorations = that window manager border around every window that you use to drag, resize, close, maximize, minimize.
[01:27] <erichammond> I already use keystrokes for all of these functions, so the only good it was doing was giving me a title.  So far, I have been able to live without that.
[02:41] <akk> So, I have no idea if this is true, but there's a rumor (posted to BALUG) that Intel is giving out EXOPC tablets to everyone who attends their meego developer camp tomorrow at Moscone.
[02:41] <akk> http://appdeveloper.intel.com/en-us/events
[02:42] <akk> (if anybody finds confirmation of this I'd love to know)
[02:43] <MarkDude> That would be cool
[03:03] <pleia2> I heard that rumor too (not from balug)
[03:04] <pleia2> and Moscone is right next to Thirsty Bear where we are having our release party tomorrow evening :)
[03:14] <akk> For me it means missing a half day of work and being an hour or two late to dinner, so I'd love to see confirmation somewhere before committing.
[03:15] <akk> (A meego dev session is of no use to me if I don't have any meego hardware, anyway)
[04:48] <nhaines> Now I just need CD artwork for natty.
[04:48]  * nhaines glares at the Internet.
[05:31] <nhaines> And now that I have the CD and sleeve artwork for natty, of course it's unsuitable for LightScribe discs.  :P
[05:33] <broder> they posted the artwork? where?
[05:33] <nhaines> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing/#CD%20Distribution%20Materials
[05:34] <nhaines> Ooh, the server CD image is pretty.  :)
[05:53] <nhaines> Didn't take too long to convert the server image to an inverted one.  :)
[05:59] <nhaines> Okay, the official artwork actually came out pretty beautiful.
[06:55] <crashsystems> Is it out yet? I hear its the 28th in Asia right now!
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[06:57] <philipballew> wouldnt it get relaised in british time?
[06:58] <philipballew> maybe im wrong
[06:58] <sn9> there's an faq about that somewhere
[07:02] <philipballew> i doubt its ca time though
[07:34] <MarkDude> jo no, answered that in his Q&A today- one person decides when it goes live- I forget their name- I was not fully listening at that point
[07:34] <MarkDude> It always varies a bit
[07:58] <MarkDude> A friend said about the release- Natty will be released at some point while it is 28 April in at least one timezone on the planet Terra in the system Sol.
[16:33] <jdeslip> Happy release day
[17:04] <pleia2> happy release day :)
[17:05] <akk> Here, have some balloons! ~o ~O ~o
[17:06] <projectdp> those don't look like balloons :(
[17:07] <iheartubuntu> thanks pleia2!
[17:50] <jamalta> Happy release day! :)
[17:51] <jdeslip> Seem's like Natty is meeting near universal praise for tech people who don't actually use Linux, and near Universal condemnation from current Linux/Ubuntu users ;)
[17:51] <akk> heh
[17:51] <akk> Not surprising from reading the usability test thread, where they only tested things on windows and mac users.
[17:52] <jdeslip> Ya
[17:52] <akk> I'm increasingly thinking ubuntu wants to be the "starter linux distro" -- get people switched over, then when they learn more they can migrate off to other distros.
[17:52] <akk> They don't seem too concerned about retention of existing users.
[17:52] <jdeslip> I gotta say, I see Natty as pretty significant downgrade in my computing experience.  But, I'm going to stick it out (on my laptop at least) in hopes things improve dramatically over the next cycle.
[17:53] <pleia2> to be fair, gnome3 is a major shift too, so if it wasn't unity this release it would be the major UI change of gnome3 next release
[17:53] <jdeslip> pleia2: agreed
[17:53] <pleia2> they actually are pretty similar
[17:53] <jdeslip> My desktop on all our work cmoputers are sticking with 10.10 for the forseable future
[17:53] <MarkDude> pleia2, jdeslip  - I am planning for the Local Team table for OSCON
[17:54] <pleia2> MarkDude: cool, working with the OR folks?
[17:54] <MarkDude> Oregon looks like it will have enough folks to have its own table
[17:54] <jamalta> Oh weird, since when does .ssh/known_hosts not keep the actual hostname?
[17:54] <jdeslip> MarkDude: sounds good
[17:54] <MarkDude> They are having a release party Sat
[17:54]  * MarkDude talked to paultag yesterday
[17:54]  * pleia2 nods
[17:54]  * MarkDude think that CA and WA could do a table again
[17:55] <pleia2> well, we don't want to be overbearing for the team which is there :)
[17:55] <pleia2> we have plenty of our own events, let them have theirs
[17:55] <MarkDude> and I can start it off by contacting May from Oreilly and CC you folks and Linda from WA
[17:55] <MarkDude> They offered 2 tables last year
[17:56] <MarkDude> There will be all sorts of local folks there
[17:56] <pleia2> maybe you should just volunteer to participate in their table?
[17:56] <MarkDude> last year - the request for the CDs was too late
[17:56]  * MarkDude is doing it earlier this time
[17:56] <pleia2> yeah, you need to do it at least 6 weeks prior to (I think their request was about 4 weeks last time?)
[17:57] <MarkDude> Well technically I am still lead for Oregon
[17:57] <pleia2> yikes
[17:57] <pleia2> should sort that out :)
[17:57] <MarkDude> And hope to have my replacement around the time of OSCON
[17:58] <MarkDude> Yes- I know :) I have been organizing events up there- it was funny when I was asked if I would be there-
[17:58] <MarkDude> Had to explain that I was a bit south of them- and wont be there til July ;)
[17:59] <MarkDude> If Ca does not want to share a table with WA- then it would be Oregon and WA
[17:59] <MarkDude> and that opens up the PNW can of worms that should not be opened- this transition should be smooth- and not open up old stuff, imho
[17:59] <pleia2> WA and OR sharing one probably makes the most sense
[18:00] <pleia2> they are both small teams
[18:01] <MarkDude> Well we can PM sometime about it- but there is a history with what happened with the PNW team
[18:01] <MarkDude> That has some REALLY, REALLY bad potential
[18:01] <pleia2> and I don't want to be seen as a state that invades other ones for events when we have plenty of our own
[18:01] <MarkDude> We had a table last year
[18:01] <MarkDude> shared with CA and WA
[18:02] <MarkDude> Ryan Singer , valorie, and myself mostly
[18:02] <MarkDude> So the change would be CA NOT having a table shared as it did last year
[18:02] <pleia2> I've participated in other team events, but never brought along my own team stuff, just helped the teams there
[18:03] <MarkDude> Well Oregon CANT request a regular conference pack
[18:03] <MarkDude> WA and CA can
[18:03] <pleia2> they can request a regular one, just not the approved team pack
[18:03] <MarkDude> So if it is just OR- then it will be smaller than last year
[18:03]  * MarkDude knows :)
[18:04] <MarkDude> it would be a downgrade then
[18:04] <MarkDude> as oppsed to growth
[18:04] <pleia2> so have WA and OR do it :)
[18:04] <pleia2> really, we don't want to be the over-aggressive southern sister loco
[18:04] <MarkDude> CA is invited -
[18:04] <pleia2> by you?
[18:04] <MarkDude> and has had a presence for the last two years
[18:05] <MarkDude> by oreilly
[18:05] <pleia2> you can do what you like, I don't have a formal objection, just offering my opinion
[18:05] <MarkDude> well please trust me on CA being HELPFUL here
[18:06] <MarkDude> it is  matter of making sure WA does not have to do the heavy lifting
[18:06] <MarkDude> other teams besides CA and WA are invited to help
[18:07] <jdeslip> Is anyone from CA going besides you MarkDude?
[18:07] <MarkDude> Yes at least 3 folks from GidgetKitchen
[18:07] <MarkDude> as well as one of the GK founders now in Portland
[18:07] <MarkDude> Ryan will be there
[18:07] <MarkDude> We have a sponsored house this year :D
[18:08] <MarkDude> Ryan is a marketing GOD
[18:09] <jdeslip> MarkDude: Is there is more than one Ubuntu LoCo table there??  Why not just have one really big one put on by the WA team that anyone can join if they like?
[18:09] <jdeslip> err OR team I guess
[18:10] <MarkDude> Well - Oregon is having ONE goal there- to recruit folsk to join their team
[18:11] <MarkDude> Last year the Ubuntu table was to provide info about Ubuntu in general
[18:11] <MarkDude> Canonical did NOT have a table there last year
[18:12] <MarkDude> So information about the #3 OS was provided by the Ubuntu table
[18:20] <MarkDude> Anyway, we can talk later,
[18:20]  * MarkDude sorta has his mind made up here- I can see about having a formal invite sent to the team leads
[18:27] <MarkDude> ALL of you headed to the Thirsty bear- take a camera
[18:27] <MarkDude> take pictures
[18:28] <iheartubuntu> i was curious... does the CA team have to pay fees for booths at events like scale?
[18:29] <pleia2> scale we didn't
[18:30] <pleia2> solano stroll we did I think
[18:30] <pleia2> depends on the event, their policies for non-5013c clubs, etc
[18:31] <MarkDude> No fees
[18:32] <MarkDude> Oreilly provides it fro free
[18:32]  * MarkDude has to leave the coffee shop now- and go do some actual lifting and sweating work
[18:33] <MarkDude> jdeslip, I can put it in an email later- no hurry on the time- we have time til OSCON
[18:37] <nhaines> If after 3 years the Oregon LoCo still can't put on an event I wonder if they need some big changes.
[18:43] <jdeslip> MarkDude: I actually don't know what you are proposing, but I don't see any problem with CA team members (or anyone else for that matter) spending some time at the Ubuntu Oregon LoCo booth at OSCON to help out.
[19:13] <nhaines> jdeslip: He wants the California and Washington teams to run the table.
[19:13] <nhaines> Although it sounds more like he actually wants California Team to run the table with Washington Team in a support role.
[19:13] <nhaines> Which is silly, because all a table needs is bodies, and maybe CDs.
[20:25] <kdubois> "natty", weird adjective for a whale. natty was the cheapest beer back on campus.... :)
[20:31] <iheartubuntu>  i just saw that at the store the other day. Id never heard of a Natty beer before!
[20:32] <iheartubuntu> Natty = Dreadlocked OS in the heart of America! Woo yo yoo! Woo yoo yoo yoo... Ubuntu Soldier, Dreadlocked OS
[20:32] <seidos> beer:  the money pit of a new generation
[20:32] <seidos> i wish i could say how much $ i wasted on beer
[20:33] <seidos> heffeweizzen, negra modelo, all kinds of India Pale Ales
[20:33] <iheartubuntu> i dont think its a waste :)
[20:33] <iheartubuntu> although it literally turns into waste
[20:33] <seidos> at one point i was like "why don't i try to get the most alcohol for the $?"
[20:33] <seidos> you know, that's value...
[20:33] <iheartubuntu> do you waste it or did it waste you? :)
[20:33] <seidos> dude, i'm totally wasted
[20:34]  * seidos crashes his laptop
[20:35] <iheartubuntu> I have a place near me with something like 50 beers on tap. way better and fresher than say yard house
[20:35] <iheartubuntu> a 36 oz large is $10
[20:35] <iheartubuntu> I once had 3 of those. yikes
[20:36] <iheartubuntu> I went down to 2 of them for a while. now i cant finish one
[20:37]  * seidos wanders off to #iheartubuntu to talk about vodka and bourbon
[20:37] <pleia2> release party tonight at thirsty bear \o/
[20:37] <iheartubuntu> would you like soem authentic granny made vodka
[20:37] <kdubois> iheartubuntu: natty is pretty low-par beer. doesn't even really taste like real beer
[20:41] <jamalta> Wow, I just noticed Natty's multitouch stuff works... using 3-fingers will move the current window.. so awesome!
[20:42] <sn9> well, that's more than my three fingers have ever been able to do before
[20:42]  * seidos stays away from thirsty bears in san francisco
[20:43]  * sn9 is not going to SF tonight
[20:44] <iheartubuntu> who makes natty beer
[20:46] <seidos> sn9: you're more like a bruin, no?
[20:47] <sn9> ?
[20:47]  * sn9 weighs 170 or so
[20:49] <seidos> bears wear like 400 or so
[20:49] <seidos> weigh*
[20:49] <seidos> T_T
[21:43] <iheartubuntu> wow did you see those terrible tornadoes back east?
[21:53] <seidos> i haven't even looked at google news today
[21:53] <seidos> i have to set up postfix
[21:55] <sn9> if only it would show tornadoes hitting british royalty...
[21:55]  * iheartubuntu german royalty
[21:56] <iheartubuntu> the windsors changed their name to sounds more british
[21:56] <iheartubuntu> but i agree
[21:56] <sn9> a la "king ralph"
[21:57] <iheartubuntu> this is a diff world now than bowing to some king or queen
[21:58] <iheartubuntu> although i have to bow to the dirty dishes every night :(
[21:58] <seidos> i'm sure there are plenty of snobs to replace the current "royal family"
[21:58]  * seidos bows to iheartubuntu 
[21:58] <seidos> tag, you're it
[21:58]  * iheartubuntu iheartubuntu bows to the CA team members
[21:58] <iheartubuntu> ink a bink
[21:59] <iheartubuntu> a bottle of natty
[21:59] <seidos> haha, nice one
[21:59]  * seidos gets drunk from humility, then swings from the chandelier in his skivvies
[21:59] <kdubois> oh, they dont come in bottles, iheartubuntu  :D
[22:01] <iheartubuntu> a cardboard box?
[22:01] <iheartubuntu> wow, Beer Advocate gives Natty Beer an A+ rating
[22:01] <iheartubuntu> http://beeradvocate.com/beer/profile/29/1524
[22:01] <iheartubuntu> .
[22:01] <iheartubuntu> .
[22:01] <iheartubuntu> .
[22:02] <iheartubuntu> NOT
[22:03] <kdubois> it has its place, if you have to throw a party for 500 of your closest friends
[22:03]  * kdubois has always suspected it was grain alcohol and beer flavoring mixed together
[22:03] <iheartubuntu> Natty is 5.9% alc
[22:03] <iheartubuntu> and cheaper than soda
[22:04] <pleia2> ew
[22:06] <iheartubuntu> "the smell of american aluminum" haha
[22:06] <iheartubuntu> "urine colored salty water"
[22:07] <pleia2> we put together a proposal to host a kde conference in philly once, I was the beer advisory committee (the thought was no european kde developer would come to the US, land of horrible bear, so I had to find good ones and select the places to go)
[22:09] <iheartubuntu> so no natty?
[22:09] <pleia2> not so much
[22:09] <kdubois> my german roommate said that ann arbor, mi was the best beer town he's seen
[22:09] <pleia2> pennsylvania has crazy packaged liquor laws, but we make up for it in amazing brewpubs and bars in philly
[22:09] <iheartubuntu> the fact that there was a beer advisory commitee for a kde conference = THUMBS WAY UP
[22:09] <kdubois> they have some respect for us more since the microbrewery craze
[22:10] <pleia2> iheartubuntu: it's very important! :)
[22:10] <seidos> there should be a cola advisory committee
[22:11] <kdubois> r/c ftw
[22:11] <seidos> I drink what Warren Buffet drinks
[22:11] <iheartubuntu> my city does not allow the purchase of single cans of beer. no the bums wait until they collect an extra couple dollars to buy a 4 pack. stupid.
[22:11] <pleia2> philly was one of the first (maybe the first?) to host a beer week
[22:11] <iheartubuntu> he drinks gold and silver right now
[22:11] <seidos> Coke is the "poshest" cola
[22:11] <seidos> it's like the Grey Goose of Cola
[22:11] <iheartubuntu> i dont like pepsi, but i recently had some throwback pepsi made with sugar. very good.
[22:11] <iheartubuntu> grey goose yuk
[22:12] <seidos> Caffeine is a serious drug in sufficient quantities
[22:12] <iheartubuntu> u need real stuff from poland
[22:12] <seidos> i think 800 cans of mountain dew can kill
[22:12] <seidos> ^_^
[22:12] <seidos> Stolichnya
[22:12] <seidos> vodka with a kick
[22:13] <nhaines> I've had some sort of Czech beer that's like 12%.
[22:13] <iheartubuntu> u need bison grass zubrowka vodka. dont buy it in the states tho, its all fake here
[22:13] <nhaines> That's what I call a good investment.
[22:13] <seidos> there's that really high proof beer i read about
[22:13] <seidos> really expensive stuff
[22:13] <nhaines> I'll take a doppelbock any day though.
[22:14] <iheartubuntu> i had a moinette on the weekend
[22:15] <iheartubuntu> a friend dropped over 3 bottles. he ended up drinking 2 of them
[22:15] <seidos> i'd rather eat guacamole
[22:15] <iheartubuntu> nhaines - i made a rauchbier last time i brewed. my sister begs me to make more
[22:15] <iheartubuntu> smokey and chocolatey
[22:16] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: the only one I've seen tastes like the bucket of water you put used fireworks in on the Fourth of July.
[22:16] <pleia2> haha
[22:16] <iheartubuntu> like i said. smokey and chocolatey
[22:17] <iheartubuntu> :)
[22:17] <iheartubuntu> fireworks on valentines :)
[22:17] <iheartubuntu> i wasnt a fan of it, but my sister looks for similar beers now whenever we go beer hunting
[22:17] <seidos> chocolate covered smoked salmon, yum!
[22:17] <iheartubuntu> my marzen is the best and i think im hooked on it where i have no need to brew anything else
[22:18] <seidos> fireworks on valentines in the afternoon
[22:20] <seidos> apparently radiohead's paranoid android is "flagged for inappropriate content"
[22:21] <iheartubuntu> nhaines - have u ever been to The Bruery someplace in OC
[22:21] <iheartubuntu> looks interesting, but ive yet to make it
[22:22] <iheartubuntu> wow, royals have banned beer from the reception. more reason to just say no to them
[22:23] <pleia2> royals?
[22:23]  * iheartubuntu just tossed his wedding invite
[22:23] <iheartubuntu> the royal wedding
[22:23] <pleia2> oh, right
[22:24] <pleia2> my mother was one of the people who was all "oooh" over the princess diana wedding
[22:25] <seidos> tall ones
[22:26] <pleia2> I don't understand the sucession rules or what the king/queen of england actually do so I think the significance is lost on me
[22:26] <iheartubuntu> what now will you both be watching
[22:27] <pleia2> #ubuntu-us-ca probably :)
[22:28] <iheartubuntu> :D
[22:28] <pleia2> I don't even care for weddings of people I /know/
[22:28] <pleia2> :)
[22:28] <seidos> i really can't follow beer talk, someone else do it
[22:29] <seidos> first beer, then weddings...it's like real life!
[22:29] <seidos> oh yeah my girlfriend is into the Royal stuff, she's actually a fan of the queen.  "tough upper lip"
[22:30] <iheartubuntu> i dont care for funerals myself
[22:30] <iheartubuntu> i dont think i'll be at mine
[22:30] <iheartubuntu> hopefully on another planet or something
[22:30] <pleia2> I don't think you're supposed to like funerals
[22:30] <iheartubuntu> i avoid them.
[22:31] <pleia2> sadly they tend to be the only time my family comes together from all over the world
[22:31] <pleia2> so I go
[22:31] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: nope, but I've been to the Rathskeller.
[22:31] <seidos> i think they should just have funerals when people are born
[22:32] <seidos> has anyone else heard of the "Layer One Security Conference" in Anaheim?
[22:33] <nhaines> I might buy an Aventinus doppelbock to drink when I'm gaming tomorrow night.
[22:34] <nhaines> Have to keep my energy up.
[22:34] <iheartubuntu> gaming?
[22:34] <pleia2> doppelbocks bring back fond memories of goat races
[22:35] <iheartubuntu> tipping goats?
[22:35] <pleia2> nope, just racing
[22:35] <iheartubuntu> :)
[22:35] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: tabletop gaming.
[22:35] <iheartubuntu> what is the rathskeller
[22:35] <pleia2> http://princessleia.com/images/journalpics/slyfox_maibock_festival_2007_bob_lyz_ron_nita_constance_david.jpg
[22:35] <iheartubuntu> like poker? or pacman
[22:35]  * pleia2 has 2 beers!
[22:36] <pleia2> (also I was thin then)
[22:36] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: like Dungeons and Dragons.
[22:36] <pleia2> http://princessleia.com/images/journalpics/GO1.jpg <-- goat race
[22:36] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: Rathskeller is a cellar bar at the Old World European Market in Huntington Beach.
[22:37] <pleia2> they'd name their newly tapped maibock after the winning goat
[22:37] <iheartubuntu> beer! TWO BEERS!
[22:37] <iheartubuntu> maibock mmmmmmmm
[22:37] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: http://www.rathskeller.us/
[22:38] <pleia2> one year a deer ran through the festival, we were all so drunk "was that a goat?" "it was a deer!" "no way!" "WAY" "Nooo!" we later confirmed with staff that it was a deer
[22:38] <pleia2> ah pennsylvania :)
[22:39] <seidos> i'll take that as a no
[22:39] <nhaines> I found (and bought) a quart-sized can of beer a couple weeks ago.  And gladly accepted that challenge.
[22:39] <pleia2> hehe
[22:40] <pleia2> http://princessleia.com/images/journalpics/Cheers.jpg
[22:40] <pleia2> those are the glasses from the deer day
[22:40] <pleia2> they were quite large
[22:40] <iheartubuntu> no way
[22:40] <iheartubuntu> you stretched the photo!
[22:41] <iheartubuntu> thats got to be 30 oz
[22:42] <iheartubuntu> will be going for large quantities of beer tonite now
[22:42] <iheartubuntu> dads bday
[22:43] <pleia2> I drank too much at the lucid release party, I shall try not to repeat that
[22:43] <iheartubuntu> haha
[22:43] <pleia2> fortunately I only live half a block away :)
[22:43] <iheartubuntu> ohhh :)
[22:43] <iheartubuntu> thats nice
[22:44] <pleia2> (for the record, I didn't pick the venue!)
[22:44] <nhaines> Last time I was at Old World restaurant I ordered a Warsteiner Dunkel, and I guess because I said "dunkel" instead of "dark" the waitress switched to German mode.
[22:45] <pleia2> german mode?
[22:45] <nhaines> Well, the next question was "Gross oder klein?"  (large or small)
[22:45] <pleia2> :D
[22:45] <pleia2> gross!
[22:46] <nhaines> My brainstem kicked in and said "gross!" and the rest of the evening I spoke to her in German.  :)
[22:46] <pleia2> hehe, nice
[22:48] <iheartubuntu> es ist gross!
[22:48] <nhaines> One time I was there with coworkers and one of their kids joined me in the market as I was looking for beer/candy.  There were some German tourists in there, so I said "hi" in German and just started talking to them in German.
[22:49] <iheartubuntu> and then you gave them an ubuntu disc
[22:49] <nhaines> You should've seen the look on my friend's face.  I put my arm around the boy (he was 8) and said "Isn't he cute?  He looks so confused because he has absolutely no idea what we're saying."
[22:50] <nhaines> I think they said (in German) "Oh, how cute!  Can't you speak German?"  He's not usually shy but he did hide behind me, haha.
[22:52] <iheartubuntu> and then the boy broke out in a rap and all of you had no clue what HE was saying
[22:53] <iheartubuntu> i wonder what a german would think if you gave them a natty
[22:54] <iheartubuntu> i heard to big words used in switzerland last year... "javol" and "ja ja"
[22:55] <iheartubuntu> i was getting tired of the "yah yah" heard everywhere. almost like a relfex action from the whole nation when saying yes to something
[22:56] <iheartubuntu> it became a rallying cry for me whenever i ordered a beer
[22:56] <iheartubuntu> do you want the big beer sir? YAH YAH
[22:59] <iheartubuntu> nhaines do u like the spaten optimater
[23:00] <iheartubuntu> warsteiner is the main beer now at the big bear oktoberfest
[23:02] <iheartubuntu> do i get a spaten oktoberfest tonite or a pabst blue ribbon
[23:03] <nhaines> iheartubuntu: yes, I love Spaten.  :)
[23:03] <iheartubuntu> im torn between a erdinger weissbier or a spaten
[23:03] <nhaines> Franziskaner doppelbock is also good.
[23:03] <nhaines> I like dark ambers most.
[23:04] <iheartubuntu> my beer place blocks away i think has franz on tap
[23:05] <iheartubuntu> i like newcastle when i cant get me a beer i like
[23:05] <iheartubuntu> im going to pick up natty this weekend and do a bait and switch on my neighbor. see if he figures it out :)
[23:06]  * iheartubuntu is waiting for ubuntu store to do a groupon :)
[23:07] <nhaines> ha!
[23:07] <iheartubuntu> that will be a cold day
[23:07] <iheartubuntu> Ubuntu Store 50% OFF
[23:07] <iheartubuntu> that would go so fast
[23:38] <iheartubuntu> just curious if anyone here has had any ghostly experiences
[23:44] <kdubois> more as a kid than now :)
[23:44] <kdubois> #ubuntu sure has a lot of unity transition complaints today
[23:45] <pleia2> not at all surprising, change is scary :)
[23:46] <kdubois> yeah, but some changes (eg, picking up compiz as default) were met with open arms
[23:47] <kdubois> although, this is a bigger change, not an apples-to-apples exactly
[23:49] <crashsystems> IMHO Unity will be just like buttons on the left.
[23:57] <nhaines> I agree.  Once you get used to Unity it's very efficient.