=== JonathanS is now known as JonathanD [22:23] maco: I signed your new key for you [22:23] you hadnt signed my old one.... [22:23] thats a bit odd [22:23] you want me to sign the old one? [22:24] you kind of broke the trust model by signing my new one [22:24] since you never verified my old one that i used to sign the blurb about the new one, for all you know it *could* be faked and someone hacked my blog or something [22:25] but it was signed by your old one which is definitely you [22:25] normally only signers-of-previous-keys will automatically sign newer keys [22:25] *or* a very clever ruse! you never did actually confirm my old key yourself, right? [22:26] does where i'm going make sense? [22:26] yes I believe I confirmed your old key first [22:26] (ftr, no it is not someone pretending to be me and making up fake stuff to break the trust model; i really am key transitioning, but still the priniciple...) [22:28] I'm not that paranoid, the old key was around for quite a while with quite a few signatures [22:30] anyway, I made a new key too since Debian is picky [22:31] I only had like 2 signatures on my old one so it wasn't a big deal for me [22:35] jbicha: can you test something? [22:35] well wait...are you on natty? [22:35] yes and yes [22:35] log out and see if you can find a way to get into the options menu and select classic ubuntu from *just* the keyboard [22:35] next week I might be on O because I'm crazy that way [22:35] and then tell me what key sequence did it [22:36] but just one of my computers; the rest will stay on Natty for a while [22:36] the toolchain won't even be ready in a weeek [22:37] uploads already started which surprised me: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric [22:38] maco: I can't figure out how to access the bottom panel from the keyboard in the GDM login [23:07] I have switched to konsole because gnome-terminal wouldn't work right with this 1 script