| rick_h__ | http://www.betanews.com/article/Apples-server-biz-relegated-to-prosumer-status-with-Xserves-end/1296513722 | 02:01 |
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| _stink_ | fun! water in the basement. | 12:30 |
| rick_h__ | _stink_: ugh :( | 12:49 |
| rick_h__ | _stink_: sump not playing nice? | 12:49 |
| brousch | another flooded basement? | 12:51 |
| rick_h__ | seems to be par for the rainy couse | 12:55 |
| rick_h__ | we better get some good may flowers out of this | 12:55 |
| brousch | my wife was pissed. she came home last night and the hostas had been eaten been rabbits | 12:56 |
| _stink_ | rick_h__: we actually don't have a sump. afaik most of the houses around here don't, or have had them filled in. not sure why | 13:00 |
| rick_h__ | _stink_: ah, ok. | 13:00 |
| _stink_ | but it looks like the pipe out to the city sewer is partially blocked. | 13:01 |
| _stink_ | so the rain water couldn't join up and drain out. | 13:01 |
| _stink_ | so through the walls it came. | 13:01 |
| brousch | lovely | 13:08 |
| _stink_ | and of course, we can't use the water till the line is snaked or whatever. | 13:09 |
| brousch | stick ur arm down in there | 13:09 |
| rick_h__ | ah the joys of home ownership | 13:10 |
| rick_h__ | you know growing up my uncle told me to never buy a house | 13:10 |
| rick_h__ | and I just laughed | 13:10 |
| rick_h__ | but after owning one...hmmm...not sure if I agree more | 13:10 |
| brousch | yeah, pita | 13:11 |
| _stink_ | yeah, we were just commisserating about that here. | 13:16 |
| brousch | if i weren't married i would live in a tiny apartment | 13:19 |
| brousch | no lawn to mow, no appliances to fix myself, just me and my computer | 13:19 |
| brousch | and would get bored out of my mind after a week | 13:20 |
| rick_h__ | only thing is I'd miss the dog | 13:20 |
| rick_h__ | but yea, I remember my days of my two bedroom appt with my bedroom/office | 13:20 |
| brousch | i'm so tired of our dogs | 13:28 |
| snap-l | Yay, four inches of water under the house. | 13:28 |
| brousch | snap-l: yikes! | 13:28 |
| rick_h__ | well, under the house is ok right? | 13:29 |
| rick_h__ | as long as it's not in the house | 13:29 |
| snap-l | rick_h__: Yeah, I think this is par for this house | 13:29 |
| snap-l | BUt this morning I heard running water under the house | 13:29 |
| snap-l | so I went outside to dig it a little away from the grate where it was coming in like gangbusters. | 13:29 |
| snap-l | Apparently Royal Oak has a problem with this. :) | 13:30 |
| snap-l | Maybe because we don't have drainage ditches | 13:31 |
| brousch | how do you have water under a house? | 13:49 |
| brousch | is it on stilts? | 13:49 |
| jrwren | brousch: wtf would I write an IE extension? shame on you! | 13:50 |
| rick_h__ | jrwren: hah! come on, we're relying on you | 13:50 |
| rick_h__ | doesn't IE have extensions now? | 13:50 |
| jrwren | yes | 13:52 |
| jrwren | but i ain't writing one. | 13:52 |
| rick_h__ | boooo, non-team player | 13:53 |
| jrwren | does this work pay? | 13:54 |
| rick_h__ | no, it's OSS | 13:55 |
| rick_h__ | it's "for fun" | 13:55 |
| snap-l | brousch: There's a crawl space under the house | 13:55 |
| jrwren | i can't think of anything fun about writing an IE extension | 13:55 |
| snap-l | so it's not a proper basement | 13:55 |
| rick_h__ | jrwren: and that's why I told my wife there will never be a bookie extension for IE | 13:56 |
| jrwren | what would an extension do that a bookmarklet wouldn't do? | 13:57 |
| jrwren | I always hated delicious extension and much prefered the bookmarklet | 13:57 |
| rick_h__ | let's you edit, add tags, provides auto completion of tags as you type, tag hints, etc | 13:58 |
| rick_h__ | retrieves existing data if you've already bookmarked the current page | 13:58 |
| jrwren | bookmarklet does all that for me. | 13:58 |
| brousch | a bookie browser toolbar! | 13:59 |
| rick_h__ | ah crap | 14:00 |
| snap-l | The Natty is released | 14:02 |
| brousch | ie users can keep it right between their google toolbar and yahoo toolbar | 14:02 |
| ColonelPanic001 | rick_h__: I'd like to learn more Android dev stuff. Interested in a Bookie app? | 14:03 |
| brousch | snap-l: i guess that explains why my dist-upgrade fell to modem speed | 14:04 |
| snap-l | a-yep | 14:04 |
| snap-l | The intertubes are plugged in Canonicalville | 14:05 |
| rick_h__ | ColonelPanic001: completely if you'd like | 14:05 |
| rick_h__ | I'd be more than happy to help with any API stuff you might need/etc | 14:06 |
| ColonelPanic001 | it's more interesting than "hello world" style book examples | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | Yea, I always like learning with something more interesting | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | and since bookie pulls/parses pages you can actually display the bookmark content as well | 14:06 |
| brousch | ColonelPanic001: you thinking native android or something less java? | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | we can add some api access for that and searches | 14:06 |
| ColonelPanic001 | native | 14:06 |
| snap-l | You mean there's more to programming than Hello World? | 14:06 |
| snap-l | Shit, I have a lot of catching up to do | 14:06 |
| rick_h__ | snap-l: only for those that are insane | 14:07 |
| === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro | ||
| ColonelPanic001 | for work, I do mobile dev with RhoMobile. | 14:07 |
| brousch | "Rhodes is an open source Ruby-based framework to rapidly build native apps for all major smartphone operating systems" | 14:08 |
| brousch | ewwwwwwwwwww | 14:08 |
| ColonelPanic001 | it's like stripped-down Rails (as far as this non-rails guy can see) that runs on a phone. | 14:09 |
| snap-l | brousch: Would you rather write Java? | 14:09 |
| brousch | appcelerator uses javascript | 14:09 |
| rick_h__ | Blazeix: doh, there was that X crash again | 14:09 |
| brousch | phonegap too | 14:10 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yeah, phonegap was another one they considered | 14:10 |
| ColonelPanic001 | they did this and decided before I was hired in, though, so don't know what they were weighing as pros and cons | 14:10 |
| jjesse | did 11.04 release yet? i kinda lost track of the actual release date | 14:13 |
| snap-l | Just in time for !penguicon, it's !openmetalcast Club Metal Episode 2. http://ur1.ca/41fl5 Jack into the mainframe and get this episode! | 14:13 |
| ColonelPanic001 | yeah | 14:13 |
| snap-l | jjesse: It's released. | 14:13 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I just got the notification in my update thinger | 14:13 |
| jjesse | nice | 14:13 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I'll probably backup adn do it on Monday. | 14:13 |
| ColonelPanic001 | same on the desktop at home. It's a couple releases behind now, I think. | 14:13 |
| jjesse | seemed to not have the same excitement at home | 14:13 |
| jjesse | sorry | 14:14 |
| jjesse | seemed not to have the same excitment as last release (saw more announcements) | 14:14 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I'm still on LTS at home | 14:14 |
| snap-l | jjesse: I think it was more heads-down this release | 14:14 |
| snap-l | lot of moving parts | 14:14 |
| snap-l | And frankly, not as much excitement over Unity | 14:14 |
| snap-l | (or I should say positive excitement) | 14:15 |
| snap-l | I'm seeing a lot of loud defections to other OSes this release | 14:15 |
| jjesse | interseting | 14:15 |
| snap-l | s/OSes/distros/ | 14:15 |
| jjesse | so whats the hot distro right now? | 14:16 |
| snap-l | nfc | 14:16 |
| snap-l | Think once Unity gets more mature Ubuntu will get the faithful back | 14:16 |
| snap-l | Haven't used Gnome shell in a while | 14:16 |
| snap-l | Problem is, no matter which distro you go to, you'll have to think | 14:17 |
| snap-l | and that's one thing we've grown stale about. The environment just works | 14:18 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I'm on Kubuntu anyway. Don't care what the main distro does with Unity. | 14:22 |
| brousch | yeah, you're used to an annoying ui and breakages every few months | 14:24 |
| ColonelPanic001 | never really broke for me. Maybe the gnome users aren't used to being able to change a setting. | 14:24 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I guess it can be annoying, having choices. | 14:24 |
| brousch | distracting | 14:25 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I bet if you call up apple, you could get a one-button mouse, too | 14:25 |
| brousch | no button mouse | 14:26 |
| brousch | trackpad and taps | 14:26 |
| ColonelPanic001 | but then there's both the x and y axis. That's too much choice. | 14:26 |
| === JonathanS is now known as JonathanD | ||
| greg-g | g'morning all | 14:37 |
| ColonelPanic001 | 'morning | 14:37 |
| snap-l | Good morning, greg-g | 14:38 |
| ColonelPanic001 | none of my usual group is going to Penguicon but me. | 14:49 |
| ColonelPanic001 | Aw well. Free beer and cosplaying girls is all I need. | 14:49 |
| brousch | just make sure they're really girls | 14:50 |
| ColonelPanic001 | If I check, might find out otherwise. Ignorance is bliss. | 14:51 |
| greg-g | and as long as they're attractive, they're attractive, right? | 14:51 |
| ColonelPanic001 | ^ | 14:52 |
| greg-g | oo, updates for 10.10 today as well | 15:16 |
| greg-g | don't worry, I'm not hitting that "Upgrade to 11.04" button quite yet ;) | 15:16 |
| brousch | doit | 15:17 |
| ColonelPanic001 | Be brave | 15:20 |
| ColonelPanic001 | throw caution into the wind, and upgrade without backups | 15:21 |
| Blazeix | rick_h__: that sucks. fyi https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=117668 | 15:31 |
| krondor | rich_h__: how was chc, didn't get the approval from Em, something about penguicon time suck etc... | 15:34 |
| snap-l | is flickr down? | 15:40 |
| brousch | snap-l: broken for me | 15:41 |
| snap-l | bah | 15:42 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I haven't used flickr in ages. I stopped taking pictures, I guess. | 15:45 |
| ColonelPanic001 | and yeah, spinning its wheels for me, too | 15:45 |
| greg-g | it is working for me, I'm logged in, if that matters | 15:51 |
| greg-g | I take that back, it worked to pull up my photostream, but not an individual photo page | 15:51 |
| greg-g | http://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/ vs http://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/5587639244/in/photostream | 15:52 |
| brousch | i'm kind of excited about the demo tonight. it's nice to have brand new features to show | 15:56 |
| brousch | instead of a list of new versions of the same old programs | 15:56 |
| brousch | http://clusterbleep.net/files/Ubuntu_11.04_Unity_Cheat_Sheet.odt | 16:10 |
| brousch | i added in screen shots and labels of UI elements from another askubuntu thread | 16:10 |
| brousch | very useful now | 16:10 |
| rick_h__ | Blazeix: cool, thanks for the link | 16:12 |
| rick_h__ | krondor: went went, had a good crowd and got some bookie hacking done | 16:12 |
| rick_h__ | http://rick.bmark.us/ updated the ui on my demo install with some better colors/icons | 16:12 |
| rick_h__ | greg-g: ^ | 16:12 |
| ColonelPanic001 | looks nice | 16:13 |
| brousch | purdy | 16:15 |
| krondor | got my psn account compromise notice from sony today. Fun times... | 16:23 |
| snap-l | Yay for meetings | 16:24 |
| snap-l | Also, my trash bags blew into the neighbors yard. | 16:26 |
| rick_h__ | krondor: yay, get all those passwords and CC numbers changed | 16:30 |
| krondor | CC already is expired :) and password was unique for it.. what sucks though is the security questions and other bio info (address/name/what not). Easy to reset passwords on other sites/open lines of credit/find out SS numbers when you know security questions + email address and such. | 16:31 |
| rick_h__ | yea, the security questions are a huge deal | 16:32 |
| greg-g | yeah, that crap sucks :( | 16:32 |
| rick_h__ | almost wish the db came out so people would reset accounts based on the leaked emails like the gawker case | 16:32 |
| rick_h__ | obviously that's bad so not all the way hoping, but ugh | 16:32 |
| ColonelPanic001 | suddenly I'm glad I've never used PSN | 16:33 |
| krondor | I'd say it's preferable full disclosure and leak of what is out then never seeing it... block out the passwords on the leak (but they'd never do that). I do like seeing the stats on most used password and such | 16:33 |
| brousch | passwords were stolen? not just hashes? | 16:34 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I *heard* they weren't even hashed. | 16:34 |
| ColonelPanic001 | heard, though. | 16:34 |
| snap-l | ColonelPanic001: Worse, it was also sent to the terminal unhashed | 16:35 |
| snap-l | (from what I've heard) | 16:35 |
| brousch | geez | 16:35 |
| krondor | the email reads like unhashed; http://pastebin.com/Xx4hCGD3 | 16:36 |
| snap-l | Yeah, this is a major clusterfuck | 16:37 |
| ColonelPanic001 | I'd say something about stupid programmers, but they probably are as pissed as everyone else. Probably some retarded middle manager dictated it. | 16:37 |
| snap-l | Also heard that developers had access to production systems, and vice versa | 16:37 |
| ColonelPanic001 | frak knows why | 16:37 |
| snap-l | Major cock-up | 16:37 |
| brousch | Qriocity? is that read as curio city or curiosity? | 16:38 |
| ColonelPanic001 | "major cock-up" should mean a good thing. When my cock is majorly up, it's not a bad thing. | 16:38 |
| ColonelPanic001 | well, not for me anyway | 16:38 |
| brousch | depends on where you are when it happens | 16:39 |
| ColonelPanic001 | touche | 16:39 |
| greg-g | eg: Penguicon? | 16:40 |
| snap-l | depends on what area of Penguicon. ;) | 16:40 |
| ColonelPanic001 | depends on where you are when it happens | 16:40 |
| greg-g | lol | 16:40 |
| ColonelPanic001 | see my earlier post about penguicon, for example ;) | 16:41 |
| _stink_ | or if you're dressed like Tronguy | 16:41 |
| ColonelPanic001 | or if that. | 16:41 |
| ColonelPanic001 | "Think about Cmdr. Adama... Think about Cmdr. Adama... OH GOD IT'S WORSE NOW" | 16:41 |
| snap-l | Just set up my e-mail so it'll work with Mutt | 16:42 |
| snap-l | couldn't sent e-mail from Mutt | 16:42 |
| snap-l | OK, now that meeting is done, time to retrieve my trash bags. | 16:42 |
| greg-g | snap-l: weee! mutt! | 16:44 |
| ColonelPanic001 | ... | 16:58 |
| snap-l | Yay, got some games in the mail in trade for Civilization | 17:06 |
| snap-l | Knightmare Chess 1/2, and The Stars Are Right | 17:06 |
| * snap-l is feeling the love | 17:06 | |
| PainBank1 | yo, when does reg desk at Penguicon open up at this weekend? | 17:46 |
| snap-l | NFC | 17:52 |
| PainBank1 | WTF, GaFC | 17:53 |
| PainBank1 | :D | 17:53 |
| snap-l | nfw | 17:54 |
| PainBank1 | haha | 17:55 |
| greg-g | ruh roh, I think my full harddisk caused some problems with my maildir | 18:10 |
| rick_h__ | oops | 18:12 |
| snap-l | oh, that sucks | 18:12 |
| rick_h__ | if I could figure out attachments I'd love to just run mutt on the server like I do irssi | 18:12 |
| * greg-g nods | 18:12 | |
| greg-g | same | 18:12 |
| rick_h__ | but that extra layer of getting attachments down to view is a pita | 18:12 |
| greg-g | weird, offlineimap runs fine, no errors, but mutt isn't starting up | 18:13 |
| greg-g | and ctrl-c isn't stopping it | 18:13 |
| greg-g | harumph! | 18:13 |
| greg-g | http://paste.mitechie.com/show/301/ | 18:14 |
| greg-g | I think I messed up when I restarted my laptop, started up my usual 4/5 mutt instances, and the disk was already full at that time | 18:15 |
| greg-g | ruh roh! my ls in .mutt/ is hanging | 18:16 |
| greg-g | and I was planning on being uber productive this afternoon! :( | 18:17 |
| snap-l | Means something likely has it locked | 18:18 |
| snap-l | reboot? | 18:18 |
| rick_h__ | hmmm, but it's an offlineimap sync right? | 18:18 |
| rick_h__ | I mean you can blow that away and not really lose anything right? | 18:19 |
| greg-g | rick_h__: well, now I'm thinking offlineimap wasn't the issue, but instead mutt | 18:19 |
| rick_h__ | hmmm, interesting | 18:19 |
| greg-g | snap-l: that is my next attempt.... | 18:21 |
| snap-l | Yeah, sounds like something isn't releasing a lock or something | 18:21 |
| snap-l | or the filesystem got mounted read-only, possibly? | 18:22 |
| rick_h__ | if you've got several mutt running maybe some command went haywire? | 18:22 |
| rick_h__ | notmuch search or something? | 18:22 |
| greg-g | reboot worked | 18:27 |
| greg-g | sad I had to | 18:27 |
| rick_h__ | interesting | 18:28 |
| rick_h__ | rsync email /dev/sdb1 | 18:28 |
| snap-l | Working out the playlist for Open Metalcast 20 that I'm going to be putting together at Penguicon | 18:30 |
| snap-l | Should be brutal | 18:30 |
| snap-l | Funny thing is I'm listening to the playlist before putting it into the show | 18:30 |
| snap-l | usually I do that after the show is put together. ;) | 18:31 |
| greg-g | heh | 18:32 |
| brousch | rick_h__: what about a dropbox-like program for syncing attachments from mutt? save attachment to dir, that dir syncs to your local machine | 18:36 |
| greg-g | brousch: still a couple more steps then just pressing <enter> to open the file :/ | 18:37 |
| brousch | i suppose | 18:38 |
| brousch | but then you're running a console-based mail client, so you must enjoy pushing keys | 18:39 |
| greg-g | :P | 18:39 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: what I have thought of is to write a script with a config to a public http accessible dir | 18:40 |
| rick_h__ | and then generating a link to it that you could paste into a browser/click on | 18:40 |
| rick_h__ | but the big thing then is dealing with the fact that it's open and needs periodic cleanup | 18:41 |
| greg-g | rick_h__: cronjob that deletes files every 20 minutes? | 18:41 |
| rick_h__ | and I don't know how to write scripts for mutt | 18:41 |
| rick_h__ | greg-g: yea | 18:41 |
| brousch | i think dropbox would work better | 18:41 |
| rick_h__ | meh, how so? | 18:41 |
| brousch | then it's private and easy to clean out | 18:41 |
| rick_h__ | you'd have to copy it off site, and then download it | 18:41 |
| greg-g | rick_h__: they're just your run of the mill bash/whatever script that takes piped input and parses it, does something, returns | 18:41 |
| rick_h__ | double transfer | 18:41 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: and then you've got the reverse problem still, how do I add an attachment | 18:42 |
| brousch | you want to run mutt on a server through screen right? | 18:42 |
| rick_h__ | brousch: right | 18:42 |
| brousch | add attchment, just stick it in the synced folder | 18:42 |
| brousch | then attach on the server | 18:43 |
| rick_h__ | ic | 18:43 |
| rick_h__ | maybe | 18:43 |
| brousch | use a free 2GB acct and share it with your paid acct | 18:43 |
| greg-g | actually, the dropbox method might not be a bad idea.... I have dropbox running my server... and that's where all my working documents live anyways..... at least for attaching, it isn't any different. For opening, it is an extra couple steps | 18:43 |
| brousch | save it, twiddle thumbs, double-click it | 18:44 |
| rick_h__ | yea, I guess I've not setup on my server (actually not reset up on my laptop yet either) | 18:44 |
| brousch | heck, that's how i view half of my attachments now | 18:44 |
| rick_h__ | yea, gotcha | 18:44 |
| brousch | my god. autodesk inventor 2010 is 6 DVDs to install, and then there are 7 service packs totaling about 250MB for x86 and 500MB for amd64 | 18:51 |
| greg-g | rick_h__: though, a combo Dropbox/U1 and your script would be awesome. script takes the attachement, saves it to your attachment_tmp dir, asks Dropbox/U1 for the priate URL of that file, displays it in that buffer area for you (before you "hit any key to continue") | 18:56 |
| greg-g | that way, you can either go to the URL or just navigate to the folder in your laptop's Dropbox/U1 folder | 18:57 |
| binbrain | Pandora broke Pithos yesterday, fixed today, FTW | 18:58 |
| greg-g | binbrain: nice! | 19:02 |
| rick_h__ | greg-g: yea | 19:02 |
| rick_h__ | that would be cool | 19:02 |
| rick_h__ | hah, bring your kids to work day has turned into a type-off | 19:02 |
| * greg-g adds it to his someday list | 19:02 | |
| greg-g | lol | 19:03 |
| rick_h__ | 12 words a second for one kid, 22 for another, and I had to bust out the 91 | 19:03 |
| greg-g | I saw some facilties guys downstairs this morning with their daughters in tow, it was awesome | 19:03 |
| rick_h__ | wooo! I can crush 12yr olds! | 19:03 |
| greg-g | rick_h__: you jerk | 19:03 |
| rick_h__ | now that my self estime is lifted for the day, maybe I'll try to get some work done | 19:03 |
| greg-g | :) | 19:03 |
| rick_h__ | now they need a vim mode for that lol | 19:03 |
| jrwren | heh, Jennifer Marsman just texted me asking if I was going to penguicon. | 19:04 |
| rick_h__ | man, I should be doing that "kids...this is vim..." | 19:04 |
| rick_h__ | get the pollution going | 19:04 |
| jrwren | who are these kids? | 19:04 |
| brousch | more python tiling wm candy for rick_h__ http://pytyle.com/wiki/Main_Page | 19:04 |
| brousch | rick_h__: now try to best them at sms | 19:05 |
| rick_h__ | jrwren: co-workers kids | 19:05 |
| rick_h__ | hah, everyone wants some tiling | 19:06 |
| binbrain | YATM taken yet? (yet another tiling manager) | 19:12 |
| krondor | rick_h__: did you end up getting CM7 on it... | 19:34 |
| rick_h__ | krondor: yea, I've had CM7, but GPS issues still | 19:34 |
| rick_h__ | some known problems with people that have been through some upgrades | 19:35 |
| rick_h__ | did some dd hacks that didn't work, next up is flashing the radio, but have to get the android dev tools to do that | 19:35 |
| krondor | yeah I was going to say I'd go to a radio flash, radio is closely tied to GPS as they're the same chip | 19:36 |
| brousch | i had issues when i was overclocking. i went back to stock speed and a few issues stopped | 19:37 |
| rick_h__ | yea, just getting nervous that everything I'm told to try has "this can brick your phone" tied to it | 19:37 |
| rick_h__ | yea, no overclocking, jst stock CM7 | 19:37 |
| krondor | rick_h__: hmm see this; http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/20259-no-gps-lock-using-cm70-stable-rom-on-htc-incredible/ looks like people have a range of success from new radios to uninstalling weatherbug (wtf?) to formatting their sd card (double wtf?) | 19:38 |
| brousch | my big problem was camera flash and shutter out of sync | 19:38 |
| rick_h__ | krondor: yea, so no weatherbug | 19:38 |
| rick_h__ | and the sd card thing is that there's some metadata on the card that needs to be reset that this dd command is supposed to clear | 19:38 |
| brousch | i run weatherbug, but it is a slow hog if you run it in the background instead of on demand | 19:38 |
| rick_h__ | and new radio is last on the list for me | 19:38 |
| krondor | you'll have to let me know what it turns out being | 19:39 |
| rick_h__ | well if it's not the radio not sure what to do next | 19:39 |
| rick_h__ | getting time for a new phone... :) | 19:39 |
| brousch | bah, i'm stilling using original android | 19:40 |
| krondor | brousch | 19:40 |
| krondor | g1? | 19:40 |
| brousch | sorry, original droid | 19:41 |
| krondor | sorry finger slipped hit enter by mistake. Oh yeah my droid 1 died (digitizer fail), 3 dollars for the chip with some serious solder skills for surface mount or 80 dollars to replace at a cell repair shop on 9 mile. I gave it to my bro in law and bought a captivate on craigslist. | 19:42 |
| krondor | droid 1 was great though. No locked nand, super overclockable, great loudspeaker and gps. | 19:42 |
| brousch | the fact that you would even consider replacing a single chip yourself tells me you must be a truly great geek | 19:43 |
| krondor | or I'm dumb and a glutton for punishment.. I did run Gentoo until recently, for what it's worth. | 19:45 |
| snap-l | I sit in quiet adminration | 19:50 |
| snap-l | admiration, even | 19:51 |
| rick_h__ | man, I love pyramid, so much nicer than pylons | 20:13 |
| binbrain | I think its arguably the cleanest best designed web framework in Python space | 20:15 |
| rick_h__ | getting to do the first stab at a pyramid app at work | 20:15 |
| binbrain | are you bumping heads with ZTK much? | 20:16 |
| rick_h__ | things just fall into place nicely, | 20:16 |
| rick_h__ | nope, not at all | 20:16 |
| rick_h__ | still sticking with routes/alchemy | 20:16 |
| binbrain | I think that's the way to go | 20:16 |
| rick_h__ | but working on trying to build some modular apps, so going to be having some fun with things | 20:16 |
| rick_h__ | want to be able to start with a base and add apps onto it with little code/config | 20:16 |
| binbrain | unless you want ZODB, I'd say stick with routes | 20:16 |
| rick_h__ | yea, we're used to that | 20:17 |
| binbrain | I really like the way Pyramid uses events | 20:18 |
| binbrain | its taken from Zope, but cleaner to understand | 20:18 |
| krondor | wow do I hate the font on the new status.net site (not sure how new or when it was changed, looks totally different though...) | 20:35 |
| krondor | as far as I can tell c e a o are the same letter | 20:36 |
| krondor | hmm, nevermind it seems like it's an issue with my font rendering in FF4 in windows. looks fine in linux on ff4 and in windows in chrome | 20:43 |
| snap-l | Neat. | 20:56 |
| jcastro | anyone know whot he tech lead for penguicon is again? | 21:08 |
| snap-l | Krunal | 21:10 |
| jcastro | krondor: they scheduled an XBMC talk the same time as the ubuntu one | 21:10 |
| TeamXlink | My Xbox still runs XBMC | 21:10 |
| jcastro | ok | 21:11 |
| jcastro | and I certainly won't be attending "Unity: Dividing Us All" | 21:11 |
| jcastro | on Sunday too, wth. | 21:12 |
| snap-l | Yeah, I didn't understand the point of that talk | 21:12 |
| jcastro | ok so I have a record of me accepting XBMC and 11.04 panels | 21:15 |
| jcastro | and he asked about lightning talks and I said "sure", but that's on saturday so that works out | 21:15 |
| jcastro | I think I would have remembered "Do you want to get railed on by UNIX people?" | 21:17 |
| jcastro | hah man, I bet it was rick | 21:17 |
| jcastro | he probably got a bunch of tiling window manager guys together to set me up | 21:17 |
| snap-l | Heh | 21:17 |
| * jcastro eyes rick_h__ evily .... | 21:17 | |
| snap-l | I think he didn't realize that the 11.04 panel was what you thought you were agreeig to | 21:17 |
| snap-l | Since that's only got my name attached to it | 21:18 |
| greg-g | jcastro: whoa, what a crappy session title name :( | 21:19 |
| snap-l | It's to stir up shit | 21:20 |
| snap-l | Unity / Divide. Counterparts | 21:21 |
| jcastro | well, the only mails I see are from you asking me | 21:21 |
| jcastro | and I was like "ok, deal" | 21:21 |
| jcastro | and krondor asked me to sit in for XBMC | 21:21 |
| jcastro | the other one no one lmk about so I am in the clear | 21:21 |
| snap-l | I guess we need to flip for jcastro | 21:21 |
| jcastro | other than now I _have_ to show up because people will be making stuff up | 21:21 |
| jcastro | snap-l: I'll go to the panel one | 21:21 |
| jcastro | XBMC is neat but doesn't feed me | 21:22 |
| snap-l | I was still willing to flip for it. ;) | 21:22 |
| jcastro | nah it's cool, you arranged the party and the bug day and stuff, I'd have to be a real jerk to bail on you | 21:23 |
| snap-l | ? | 21:23 |
| snap-l | bug day? | 21:23 |
| jcastro | the thing in AA | 21:24 |
| snap-l | That was greg-g | 21:24 |
| snap-l | And the party is only us trying to meet at the bar. :) | 21:24 |
| snap-l | The real planning comes tomorrow if they kick us out. ;) | 21:25 |
| krondor | jcastro: lol I saw you on that schedule for unity dividing us all and was thinking hmmmm | 21:44 |
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