[02:01] <rick_h__> http://www.betanews.com/article/Apples-server-biz-relegated-to-prosumer-status-with-Xserves-end/1296513722
[12:30] <_stink_> fun!  water in the basement.
[12:49] <rick_h__> _stink_: ugh :(
[12:49] <rick_h__> _stink_: sump not playing nice?
[12:51] <brousch> another flooded basement?
[12:55] <rick_h__> seems to be par for the rainy couse
[12:55] <rick_h__> we better get some good may flowers out of this
[12:56] <brousch> my wife was pissed. she came home last night and the hostas had been eaten been rabbits
[13:00] <_stink_> rick_h__: we actually don't have a sump.  afaik most of the houses around here don't, or have had them filled in.  not sure why
[13:00] <rick_h__> _stink_: ah, ok.
[13:01] <_stink_> but it looks like the pipe out to the city sewer is partially blocked.
[13:01] <_stink_> so the rain water couldn't join up and drain out.
[13:01] <_stink_> so through the walls it came.
[13:08] <brousch> lovely
[13:09] <_stink_> and of course, we can't use the water till the line is snaked or whatever.
[13:09] <brousch> stick ur arm down in there
[13:10] <rick_h__> ah the joys of home ownership
[13:10] <rick_h__> you know growing up my uncle told me to never buy a house
[13:10] <rick_h__> and I just laughed
[13:10] <rick_h__> but after owning one...hmmm...not sure if I agree more
[13:11] <brousch> yeah, pita
[13:16] <_stink_> yeah, we were just commisserating about that here.
[13:19] <brousch> if i weren't married i would live in a tiny apartment
[13:19] <brousch> no lawn to mow, no appliances to fix myself, just me and my computer
[13:20] <brousch> and would get bored out of my mind after a week
[13:20] <rick_h__> only thing is I'd miss the dog
[13:20] <rick_h__> but yea, I remember my days of my two bedroom appt with my bedroom/office
[13:28] <brousch> i'm so tired of our dogs
[13:28] <snap-l> Yay, four inches of water under the house.
[13:28] <brousch> snap-l: yikes!
[13:29] <rick_h__> well, under the house is ok right?
[13:29] <rick_h__> as long as it's not in the house
[13:29] <snap-l> rick_h__: Yeah, I think this is par for this house
[13:29] <snap-l> BUt this morning I heard running water under the house
[13:29] <snap-l> so I went outside to dig it a little away from the grate where it was coming in like gangbusters.
[13:30] <snap-l> Apparently Royal Oak has a problem with this. :)
[13:31] <snap-l> Maybe because we don't have drainage ditches
[13:49] <brousch> how do you have water under a house?
[13:49] <brousch> is it on stilts?
[13:50] <jrwren> brousch: wtf would I write an IE extension?   shame on you!
[13:50] <rick_h__> jrwren: hah! come on, we're relying on you
[13:50] <rick_h__> doesn't IE have extensions now?
[13:52] <jrwren> yes
[13:52] <jrwren> but i ain't writing one.
[13:53] <rick_h__> boooo, non-team player
[13:54] <jrwren> does this work pay?
[13:55] <rick_h__> no, it's OSS
[13:55] <rick_h__> it's "for fun"
[13:55] <snap-l> brousch: There's a crawl space under the house
[13:55] <jrwren> i can't think of anything fun about writing an IE extension
[13:55] <snap-l> so it's not a proper basement
[13:56] <rick_h__> jrwren: and that's why I told my wife there will never be a bookie extension for IE
[13:57] <jrwren> what would an extension do that a bookmarklet wouldn't do?
[13:57] <jrwren> I always hated delicious extension and much prefered the bookmarklet
[13:58] <rick_h__> let's you edit, add tags, provides auto completion of tags as you type, tag hints, etc
[13:58] <rick_h__> retrieves existing data if you've already bookmarked the current page
[13:58] <jrwren> bookmarklet does all that for me.
[13:59] <brousch> a bookie browser toolbar!
[14:00] <rick_h__> ah crap
[14:02] <snap-l> The Natty is released
[14:02] <brousch> ie users can keep it right between their google toolbar and yahoo toolbar
[14:03] <ColonelPanic001> rick_h__: I'd like to learn more Android dev stuff. Interested in a Bookie app?
[14:04] <brousch> snap-l: i guess that explains why my dist-upgrade fell to modem speed
[14:04] <snap-l> a-yep
[14:05] <snap-l> The intertubes are plugged in Canonicalville
[14:05] <rick_h__> ColonelPanic001: completely if you'd like
[14:06] <rick_h__> I'd be more than happy to help with any API stuff you might need/etc
[14:06] <ColonelPanic001> it's more interesting than "hello world" style book examples
[14:06] <rick_h__> Yea, I always like learning with something more interesting
[14:06] <rick_h__> and since bookie pulls/parses pages you can actually display the bookmark content as well
[14:06] <brousch> ColonelPanic001: you thinking native android or something less java?
[14:06] <rick_h__> we can add some api access for that and searches
[14:06] <ColonelPanic001> native
[14:06] <snap-l> You mean there's more to programming than Hello World?
[14:06] <snap-l> Shit, I have a lot of catching up to do
[14:07] <rick_h__> snap-l: only for those that are insane
[14:07] <ColonelPanic001> for work, I do mobile dev with RhoMobile.
[14:08] <brousch> "Rhodes is an open source Ruby-based framework to rapidly build native apps for all major smartphone operating systems"
[14:08] <brousch> ewwwwwwwwwww
[14:09] <ColonelPanic001> it's like stripped-down Rails (as far as this non-rails guy can see) that runs on a phone.
[14:09] <snap-l> brousch: Would you rather write Java?
[14:09] <brousch> appcelerator uses javascript
[14:09] <rick_h__> Blazeix: doh, there was that X crash again
[14:10] <brousch> phonegap too
[14:10] <ColonelPanic001> yeah, phonegap was another one they considered
[14:10] <ColonelPanic001> they did this and decided before I was hired in, though, so don't know what they were weighing as pros and cons
[14:13] <jjesse> did 11.04 release yet?  i kinda lost track of the actual release date
[14:13] <snap-l> Just in time for !penguicon, it's !openmetalcast Club Metal Episode 2. http://ur1.ca/41fl5 Jack into the mainframe and get this episode!
[14:13] <ColonelPanic001> yeah
[14:13] <snap-l> jjesse: It's released.
[14:13] <ColonelPanic001> I just got the notification in my update thinger
[14:13] <jjesse> nice
[14:13] <ColonelPanic001> I'll probably backup adn do it on Monday.
[14:13] <ColonelPanic001> same on the desktop at home. It's a couple releases behind now, I think.
[14:13] <jjesse> seemed to not have the same excitement at home
[14:14] <jjesse> sorry
[14:14] <jjesse> seemed not to have the same excitment as last release (saw more announcements)
[14:14] <snap-l> Yeah, I'm still on LTS at home
[14:14] <snap-l> jjesse: I think it was more heads-down this release
[14:14] <snap-l> lot of moving parts
[14:14] <snap-l> And frankly, not as much excitement over Unity
[14:15] <snap-l> (or I should say positive excitement)
[14:15] <snap-l> I'm seeing a lot of loud defections to other OSes this release
[14:15] <jjesse> interseting
[14:15] <snap-l> s/OSes/distros/
[14:16] <jjesse> so whats the hot distro right now?
[14:16] <snap-l> nfc
[14:16] <snap-l> Think once Unity gets more mature Ubuntu will get the faithful back
[14:16] <snap-l> Haven't used Gnome shell in a while
[14:17] <snap-l> Problem is, no matter which distro you go to, you'll have to think
[14:18] <snap-l> and that's one thing we've grown stale about. The environment just works
[14:22] <ColonelPanic001> I'm on Kubuntu anyway. Don't care what the main distro does with Unity.
[14:24] <brousch> yeah, you're used to an annoying ui and breakages every few months
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> never really broke for me. Maybe the gnome users aren't used to being able to change a setting.
[14:24] <ColonelPanic001> I guess it can be annoying, having choices.
[14:25] <brousch> distracting
[14:25] <ColonelPanic001> I bet if you call up apple, you could get a one-button mouse, too
[14:26] <brousch> no button mouse
[14:26] <brousch> trackpad and taps
[14:26] <ColonelPanic001> but then there's both the x and y axis. That's too much choice.
[14:37] <greg-g> g'morning all
[14:37] <ColonelPanic001> 'morning
[14:38] <snap-l> Good morning, greg-g
[14:49] <ColonelPanic001> none of my usual group is going to Penguicon but me.
[14:49] <ColonelPanic001> Aw well. Free beer and cosplaying girls is all I need.
[14:50] <brousch> just make sure they're really girls
[14:51] <ColonelPanic001> If I check, might find out otherwise. Ignorance is bliss.
[14:51] <greg-g> and as long as they're attractive, they're attractive, right?
[14:52] <ColonelPanic001> ^
[15:16] <greg-g> oo, updates for 10.10 today as well
[15:16] <greg-g> don't worry, I'm not hitting that "Upgrade to 11.04" button quite yet ;)
[15:17] <brousch> doit
[15:20] <ColonelPanic001> Be brave
[15:21] <ColonelPanic001> throw caution into the wind, and upgrade without backups
[15:31] <Blazeix> rick_h__: that sucks. fyi https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=117668
[15:34] <krondor> rich_h__:  how was chc, didn't get the approval from Em, something about penguicon time suck etc...
[15:40] <snap-l> is flickr down?
[15:41] <brousch> snap-l: broken for me
[15:42] <snap-l> bah
[15:45] <ColonelPanic001> I haven't used flickr in ages. I stopped taking pictures, I guess.
[15:45] <ColonelPanic001> and yeah, spinning its wheels for me, too
[15:51] <greg-g> it is working for me, I'm logged in, if that matters
[15:51] <greg-g> I take that back, it worked to pull up my photostream, but not an individual photo page
[15:52] <greg-g> http://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/ vs http://www.flickr.com/photos/grggrssmr/5587639244/in/photostream
[15:56] <brousch> i'm kind of excited about the demo tonight. it's nice to have brand new features to show
[15:56] <brousch> instead of a list of new versions of the same old programs
[16:10] <brousch> http://clusterbleep.net/files/Ubuntu_11.04_Unity_Cheat_Sheet.odt
[16:10] <brousch> i added in screen shots and labels of UI elements from another askubuntu thread
[16:10] <brousch> very useful now
[16:12] <rick_h__> Blazeix: cool, thanks for the link
[16:12] <rick_h__> krondor: went went, had a good crowd and got some bookie hacking done
[16:12] <rick_h__> http://rick.bmark.us/ updated the ui on my demo install with some better colors/icons
[16:12] <rick_h__> greg-g: ^
[16:13] <ColonelPanic001> looks nice
[16:15] <brousch> purdy
[16:23] <krondor> got my psn account compromise notice from sony today.  Fun times...
[16:24] <snap-l> Yay for meetings
[16:26] <snap-l> Also, my trash bags blew into the neighbors yard.
[16:30] <rick_h__> krondor: yay, get all those passwords and CC numbers changed
[16:31] <krondor> CC already is expired :) and password was unique for it.. what sucks though is the security questions and other bio info (address/name/what not).  Easy to reset passwords on other sites/open lines of credit/find out SS numbers when you know security questions + email address and such.
[16:32] <rick_h__> yea, the security questions are a huge deal
[16:32] <greg-g> yeah, that crap sucks :(
[16:32] <rick_h__> almost wish the db came out so people would reset accounts based on the leaked emails like the gawker case
[16:32] <rick_h__> obviously that's bad so not all the way hoping, but ugh
[16:33] <ColonelPanic001> suddenly I'm glad I've never used PSN
[16:33] <krondor> I'd say it's preferable full disclosure and leak of what is out then never seeing it... block out the passwords on the leak (but they'd never do that).  I do like seeing the stats on most used password and such
[16:34] <brousch> passwords were stolen? not just hashes?
[16:34] <ColonelPanic001> I *heard* they weren't even hashed.
[16:34] <ColonelPanic001> heard, though.
[16:35] <snap-l> ColonelPanic001: Worse, it was also sent to the terminal unhashed
[16:35] <snap-l> (from what I've heard)
[16:35] <brousch> geez
[16:36] <krondor> the email reads like unhashed; http://pastebin.com/Xx4hCGD3
[16:37] <snap-l> Yeah, this is a major clusterfuck
[16:37] <ColonelPanic001> I'd say something about stupid programmers, but they probably are as pissed as everyone else. Probably some retarded middle manager dictated it.
[16:37] <snap-l> Also heard that developers had access to production systems, and vice versa
[16:37] <ColonelPanic001> frak knows why
[16:37] <snap-l> Major cock-up
[16:38] <brousch> Qriocity? is that read as curio city or curiosity?
[16:38] <ColonelPanic001> "major cock-up" should mean a good thing. When my cock is majorly up, it's not a bad thing.
[16:38] <ColonelPanic001> well, not for me anyway
[16:39] <brousch> depends on where you are when it happens
[16:39] <ColonelPanic001> touche
[16:40] <greg-g> eg: Penguicon?
[16:40] <snap-l> depends on what area of Penguicon. ;)
[16:40] <ColonelPanic001> depends on where you are when it happens
[16:40] <greg-g> lol
[16:41] <ColonelPanic001> see my earlier post about penguicon, for example ;)
[16:41] <_stink_> or if you're dressed like Tronguy
[16:41] <ColonelPanic001> or if that.
[16:41] <ColonelPanic001> "Think about Cmdr. Adama... Think about Cmdr. Adama... OH GOD IT'S WORSE NOW"
[16:42] <snap-l> Just set up my e-mail so it'll work with Mutt
[16:42] <snap-l> couldn't sent e-mail from Mutt
[16:42] <snap-l> OK, now that meeting is done, time to retrieve my trash bags.
[16:44] <greg-g> snap-l: weee! mutt!
[16:58] <ColonelPanic001> ...
[17:06] <snap-l> Yay, got some games in the mail in trade for Civilization
[17:06] <snap-l> Knightmare Chess 1/2, and The Stars Are Right
[17:06]  * snap-l is feeling the love
[17:46] <PainBank1> yo, when does reg desk at Penguicon open up at this weekend?
[17:52] <snap-l> NFC
[17:53] <PainBank1> WTF, GaFC
[17:53] <PainBank1> :D
[17:54] <snap-l> nfw
[17:55] <PainBank1> haha
[18:10] <greg-g> ruh roh, I think my full harddisk caused some problems with my maildir
[18:12] <rick_h__> oops
[18:12] <snap-l> oh, that sucks
[18:12] <rick_h__> if I could figure out attachments I'd love to just run mutt on the server like I do irssi
[18:12]  * greg-g nods
[18:12] <greg-g> same
[18:12] <rick_h__> but that extra layer of getting attachments down to view is a pita
[18:13] <greg-g> weird, offlineimap runs fine, no errors, but mutt isn't starting up
[18:13] <greg-g> and ctrl-c isn't stopping it
[18:13] <greg-g> harumph!
[18:14] <greg-g> http://paste.mitechie.com/show/301/
[18:15] <greg-g> I think I messed up when I restarted my laptop, started up my usual 4/5 mutt instances, and the disk was already full at that time
[18:16] <greg-g> ruh roh! my ls in .mutt/ is hanging
[18:17] <greg-g> and I was planning on being uber productive this afternoon! :(
[18:18] <snap-l> Means something likely has it locked
[18:18] <snap-l> reboot?
[18:18] <rick_h__> hmmm, but it's an offlineimap sync right?
[18:19] <rick_h__> I mean you can blow that away and not really lose anything right?
[18:19] <greg-g> rick_h__: well, now I'm thinking offlineimap wasn't the issue, but instead mutt
[18:19] <rick_h__> hmmm, interesting
[18:21] <greg-g> snap-l: that is my next attempt....
[18:21] <snap-l> Yeah, sounds like something isn't releasing a lock or something
[18:22] <snap-l> or the filesystem got mounted read-only, possibly?
[18:22] <rick_h__> if you've got several mutt running maybe some command went haywire?
[18:22] <rick_h__> notmuch search or something?
[18:27] <greg-g> reboot worked
[18:27] <greg-g> sad I had to
[18:28] <rick_h__> interesting
[18:28] <rick_h__> rsync email /dev/sdb1
[18:30] <snap-l> Working out the playlist for Open Metalcast 20 that I'm going to be putting together at Penguicon
[18:30] <snap-l> Should be brutal
[18:30] <snap-l> Funny thing is I'm listening to the playlist before putting it into the show
[18:31] <snap-l> usually I do that after the show is put together. ;)
[18:32] <greg-g> heh
[18:36] <brousch> rick_h__: what about a dropbox-like program for syncing attachments from mutt? save attachment to dir, that dir syncs to your local machine
[18:37] <greg-g> brousch: still a couple more steps then just pressing <enter> to open the file :/
[18:38] <brousch> i suppose
[18:39] <brousch> but then you're running a console-based mail client, so you must enjoy pushing keys
[18:39] <greg-g> :P
[18:40] <rick_h__> brousch: what I have thought of is to write a script with a config to a public http accessible dir
[18:40] <rick_h__> and then generating a link to it that you could paste into a browser/click on
[18:41] <rick_h__> but the big thing then is dealing with the fact that it's open and needs periodic cleanup
[18:41] <greg-g> rick_h__: cronjob that deletes files every 20 minutes?
[18:41] <rick_h__> and I don't know how to write scripts for mutt
[18:41] <rick_h__> greg-g: yea
[18:41] <brousch> i think dropbox would work better
[18:41] <rick_h__> meh, how so?
[18:41] <brousch> then it's private and easy to clean out
[18:41] <rick_h__> you'd have to copy it off site, and then download it
[18:41] <greg-g> rick_h__: they're just your run of the mill bash/whatever script that takes piped input and parses it, does something, returns
[18:41] <rick_h__> double transfer
[18:42] <rick_h__> brousch: and then you've got the reverse problem still, how do I add an attachment
[18:42] <brousch> you want to run mutt on a server through screen right?
[18:42] <rick_h__> brousch: right
[18:42] <brousch> add attchment, just stick it in the synced folder
[18:43] <brousch> then attach on the server
[18:43] <rick_h__> ic
[18:43] <rick_h__> maybe
[18:43] <brousch> use a free 2GB acct and share it with your paid acct
[18:43] <greg-g> actually, the dropbox method might not be a bad idea.... I have dropbox running my server... and that's where all my working documents live anyways..... at least for attaching, it isn't any different. For opening, it is an extra couple steps
[18:44] <brousch> save it, twiddle thumbs, double-click it
[18:44] <rick_h__> yea, I guess I've not setup on my server (actually not reset up on my laptop yet either)
[18:44] <brousch> heck, that's how i view half of my attachments now
[18:44] <rick_h__> yea, gotcha
[18:51] <brousch> my god. autodesk inventor 2010 is 6 DVDs to install, and then there are 7 service packs totaling about 250MB for x86 and 500MB for amd64
[18:56] <greg-g> rick_h__: though, a combo Dropbox/U1 and your script would be awesome. script takes the attachement, saves it to your attachment_tmp dir, asks Dropbox/U1 for the priate URL of that file, displays it in that buffer area for you (before you "hit any key to continue")
[18:57] <greg-g> that way, you can either go to the URL or just navigate to the folder in your laptop's Dropbox/U1 folder
[18:58] <binbrain> Pandora broke Pithos yesterday, fixed today, FTW
[19:02] <greg-g> binbrain: nice!
[19:02] <rick_h__> greg-g: yea
[19:02] <rick_h__> that would be cool
[19:02] <rick_h__> hah, bring your kids to work day has turned into a type-off
[19:02]  * greg-g adds it to his someday list
[19:03] <greg-g> lol
[19:03] <rick_h__> 12 words a second for one kid, 22 for another, and I had to bust out the 91
[19:03] <greg-g> I saw some facilties guys downstairs this morning with their daughters in tow, it was awesome
[19:03] <rick_h__> wooo! I can crush 12yr olds!
[19:03] <greg-g> rick_h__: you jerk
[19:03] <rick_h__> now that my self estime is lifted for the day, maybe I'll try to get some work done
[19:03] <greg-g> :)
[19:03] <rick_h__> now they need a vim mode for that lol
[19:04] <jrwren> heh, Jennifer Marsman just texted me asking if I was going to penguicon.
[19:04] <rick_h__> man, I should be doing that "kids...this is vim..."
[19:04] <rick_h__> get the pollution going
[19:04] <jrwren> who are these kids?
[19:04] <brousch> more python tiling wm candy for rick_h__ http://pytyle.com/wiki/Main_Page
[19:05] <brousch> rick_h__: now try to best them at sms
[19:05] <rick_h__> jrwren: co-workers kids
[19:06] <rick_h__> hah, everyone wants some tiling
[19:12] <binbrain> YATM taken yet? (yet another tiling manager)
[19:34] <krondor> rick_h__:  did you end up getting CM7 on it...
[19:34] <rick_h__> krondor: yea, I've had CM7, but GPS issues still
[19:35] <rick_h__> some known problems with people that have been through some upgrades
[19:35] <rick_h__> did some dd hacks that didn't work, next up is flashing the radio, but have to get the android dev tools to do that
[19:36] <krondor> yeah I was going to say I'd go to a radio flash, radio is closely tied to GPS as they're the same chip
[19:37] <brousch> i had issues when i was overclocking. i went back to stock speed and a few issues stopped
[19:37] <rick_h__> yea, just getting nervous that everything I'm told to try has "this can brick your phone" tied to it
[19:37] <rick_h__> yea, no overclocking, jst stock CM7
[19:38] <krondor> rick_h__:  hmm see this; http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/20259-no-gps-lock-using-cm70-stable-rom-on-htc-incredible/ looks like people have a range of success from new radios to uninstalling weatherbug (wtf?) to formatting their sd card (double wtf?)
[19:38] <brousch> my big problem was camera flash and shutter out of sync
[19:38] <rick_h__> krondor: yea, so no weatherbug
[19:38] <rick_h__> and the sd card thing is that there's some metadata on the card that needs to be reset that this dd command is supposed to clear
[19:38] <brousch> i run weatherbug, but it is a slow hog if you run it in the background instead of on demand
[19:38] <rick_h__> and new radio is last on the list for me
[19:39] <krondor> you'll have to let me know what it turns out being
[19:39] <rick_h__> well if it's not the radio not sure what to do next
[19:39] <rick_h__> getting time for a new phone... :)
[19:40] <brousch> bah, i'm stilling using original android
[19:40] <krondor> brousch
[19:40] <krondor> g1?
[19:41] <brousch> sorry, original droid
[19:42] <krondor> sorry finger slipped hit enter by mistake.  Oh yeah my droid 1 died (digitizer fail), 3 dollars for the chip with some serious solder skills for surface mount or 80 dollars to replace at a cell repair shop on 9 mile.  I gave it to my bro in law and bought a captivate on craigslist.
[19:42] <krondor> droid 1 was great though.  No locked nand, super overclockable, great loudspeaker and gps.
[19:43] <brousch> the fact that you would even consider replacing a single chip yourself tells me you must be a truly great geek
[19:45] <krondor> or I'm dumb and a glutton for punishment.. I did run Gentoo until recently, for what it's worth.
[19:50] <snap-l> I sit in quiet adminration
[19:51] <snap-l> admiration, even
[20:13] <rick_h__> man, I love pyramid, so much nicer than pylons
[20:15] <binbrain> I think its arguably the cleanest best designed web framework in Python space
[20:15] <rick_h__> getting to do the first stab at a pyramid app at work
[20:16] <binbrain> are you bumping heads with ZTK much?
[20:16] <rick_h__> things just fall into place nicely,
[20:16] <rick_h__> nope, not at all
[20:16] <rick_h__> still sticking with routes/alchemy
[20:16] <binbrain> I think that's the way to go
[20:16] <rick_h__> but working on trying to build some modular apps, so going to be having some fun with things
[20:16] <rick_h__> want to be able to start with a base and add apps onto it with little code/config
[20:16] <binbrain> unless you want ZODB, I'd say stick with routes
[20:17] <rick_h__> yea, we're used to that
[20:18] <binbrain> I really like the way Pyramid uses events
[20:18] <binbrain> its taken from Zope, but cleaner to understand
[20:35] <krondor> wow do I hate the font on the new status.net site (not sure how new or when it was changed, looks totally different though...)
[20:36] <krondor> as far as I can tell c e a o are the same letter
[20:43] <krondor> hmm, nevermind it seems like it's an issue with my font rendering in FF4 in windows.  looks fine in linux on ff4 and in windows in chrome
[20:56] <snap-l> Neat.
[21:08] <jcastro> anyone know whot he tech lead for penguicon is again?
[21:10] <snap-l> Krunal
[21:10] <jcastro> krondor: they scheduled an XBMC talk the same time as the ubuntu one
[21:10] <TeamXlink> My Xbox still runs XBMC
[21:11] <jcastro> ok
[21:11] <jcastro> and I certainly won't be attending "Unity: Dividing Us All"
[21:12] <jcastro> on Sunday too, wth.
[21:12] <snap-l> Yeah, I didn't understand the point of that talk
[21:15] <jcastro> ok so I have a record of me accepting XBMC and 11.04 panels
[21:15] <jcastro> and he asked about lightning talks and I said "sure", but that's on saturday so that works out
[21:17] <jcastro> I think I would have remembered "Do you want to get railed on by UNIX people?"
[21:17] <jcastro> hah man, I bet it was rick
[21:17] <jcastro> he probably got a bunch of tiling window manager guys together to set me up
[21:17] <snap-l> Heh
[21:17]  * jcastro eyes rick_h__ evily ....
[21:17] <snap-l> I think he didn't realize that the 11.04 panel was what you thought you were agreeig to
[21:18] <snap-l> Since that's only got my name attached to it
[21:19] <greg-g> jcastro: whoa, what a crappy session title name :(
[21:20] <snap-l> It's to stir up shit
[21:21] <snap-l> Unity / Divide. Counterparts
[21:21] <jcastro> well, the only mails I see are from you asking me
[21:21] <jcastro> and I was like "ok, deal"
[21:21] <jcastro> and krondor asked me to sit in for XBMC
[21:21] <jcastro> the other one no one lmk about so I am in the clear
[21:21] <snap-l> I guess we need to flip for jcastro
[21:21] <jcastro> other than now I _have_ to show up because people will be making stuff up
[21:21] <jcastro> snap-l: I'll go to the panel one
[21:22] <jcastro> XBMC is neat but doesn't feed me
[21:22] <snap-l> I was still willing to flip for it. ;)
[21:23] <jcastro> nah it's cool, you arranged the party and the bug day and stuff, I'd have to be a real jerk to bail on you
[21:23] <snap-l> ?
[21:23] <snap-l> bug day?
[21:24] <jcastro> the thing in AA
[21:24] <snap-l> That was greg-g
[21:24] <snap-l> And the party is only us trying to meet at the bar. :)
[21:25] <snap-l> The real planning comes tomorrow if they kick us out. ;)
[21:44] <krondor> jcastro: lol I saw you on that schedule for unity dividing us all and was thinking hmmmm