| BiosElement | So does anyone actually trust apple? http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20110427/10582914057/apple-takes-credit-uncovering-its-patented-location-bug-that-isnt-really-tracking-you-which-itll-fix.shtml | 00:21 |
|---|---|---|
| BiosElement | >.> | 00:21 |
| canthus13 | No. | 00:22 |
| BiosElement | It's awesome, they found a 'bug', but it wasn't tracking your location. Just the location of all wifi and cell towers since forever. :P | 00:22 |
| canthus13 | Yup. | 00:23 |
| BiosElement | Ahh, I see. I feel better now.... | 00:24 |
| canthus13 | ...in an unencrypted file that was likely available to any app dev that wanted it. | 00:24 |
| BiosElement | Oh oh, and apple got a patent on that 'bug' last year. | 00:24 |
| BiosElement | canthus13: It was. | 00:24 |
| BiosElement | So for a bug, funny how it also has a patent. :P | 00:24 |
| * canthus13 shrugs. | 00:24 | |
| canthus13 | I'm not affected by it. :) | 00:24 |
| BiosElement | Another one up to the apple reality distortion field. | 00:25 |
| dmcglone | any news on the release? | 00:58 |
| dmcglone | is it still on schedule? | 00:58 |
| canthus13 | dmcglone: TOmorrow. | 01:04 |
| dmcglone | anything standing in it's way | 01:05 |
| canthus13 | the fact that it sucks? | 01:05 |
| canthus13 | Show-stopper installation issues... | 01:05 |
| dmcglone | I wonder if it'll be released at 12am | 01:09 |
| dmcglone | I'm thirsty, anyone want anything while i'm in the kitchen? | 01:11 |
| dmcglone | Ahhhh refreshing gatorade! | 01:15 |
| canthus13 | dmcglone: 11:59pm on the 28th. | 01:16 |
| * canthus13 prefers powerade zero. | 01:16 | |
| dmcglone | I got whatever was $.99 | 01:20 |
| dmcglone | lol | 01:20 |
| dmcglone | kroger 10 for 10 | 01:20 |
| canthus13 | Powerade zero was .50/each. | 01:21 |
| canthus13 | at kroger. | 01:21 |
| dmcglone | dang I missed that sale | 01:25 |
| dmcglone | was it the 32 oz? | 01:25 |
| canthus13 | Yep. | 01:30 |
| dmcglone | cool, I think I'll hit kroger tomorrow. | 01:32 |
| canthus13 | I don't htink it's on sale now... this was a couple of weeks ago. | 01:33 |
| dmcglone | I gotta stock up anyhow, I just opened the last one. They probably aren't on sale, though. | 01:33 |
| * Cheri703 is actually trying to get back to doing things interacting with other people. I was kind of a hermit for a few weeks | 01:34 | |
| dmcglone | I've been a hermit for years :-/ | 01:35 |
| Unit193 | People? | 01:35 |
| dmcglone | Unit193: huh? | 01:39 |
| dmcglone | I'm a space alien from jupiter | 01:39 |
| dmcglone | I relocated to nebula | 01:39 |
| dmcglone | the extradited to earth | 01:40 |
| Unit193 | You guys were talking about not interacting with other "people". I don't know what those things are... | 01:40 |
| dmcglone | Neither do I :-/ | 01:40 |
| Unit193 | canthus13: irssi proxy is VERY cool.... | 03:16 |
| Unit193 | If you know what Quassel is, it's a bit like that... | 03:16 |
| BiosElement | quassel should be the standard for IRC clients >.> | 03:19 |
| Unit193 | BiosElement: I can use irssi or pidgin to talk (and the chat will show up in both) | 03:19 |
| Unit193 | It just doesn't show backlogs | 03:20 |
| BiosElement | Umm, pidgin? For IRC? *coughs* | 03:20 |
| Unit193 | Some people use it (I think dmcglone does) | 03:20 |
| BiosElement | I know, and I feel sorry for them. | 03:20 |
| Unit193 | It's not all that bad | 03:21 |
| Unit193 | What GUI choices do you have? | 03:21 |
| BiosElement | Quassel and Konversation are pretty awesome. I'd use weechat if I could get the colors down. >.< | 03:21 |
| BiosElement | Back in a few, phone. | 03:22 |
| Unit193 | Those are KDE apps (they will work in others, but they are KDE) | 03:22 |
| canthus13 | Unit193: Xchat. | 04:14 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: I know they are, you're talking to a Kubuntu user. :P XChat is an awesome gnome client though | 04:16 |
| * Unit193 Will install Kubuntu when 11.04 comes out | 04:16 | |
| * Cheri703 just had a bacon egg and onion sandwich :) | 04:17 | |
| BiosElement | Awesome discussion killer Cheri703 ;) | 04:42 |
| Unit193 | BiosElement: Are you already rockin' 11.04? (I don't remember) | 04:42 |
| BiosElement | Yep, I'm already breaking shit ;) | 04:43 |
| Cheri703 | mmmmhm | 04:43 |
| * Cheri703 is good at that | 04:43 | |
| * Unit193 is better? | 04:43 | |
| * canthus13 has yet to successfully install natty. :/ | 04:47 | |
| canthus13 | I'm on attempt #4. this time with the alternate iso. | 04:47 |
| Unit193 | Ubuntu? | 04:48 |
| BiosElement | canthus13: USB or CD? | 04:48 |
| canthus13 | BiosElement: virtualbox. | 04:48 |
| BiosElement | Ahh, VBox may not like some versions of the ISO | 04:48 |
| BiosElement | I know they f'd up USB installs and VBox3 installs for part of the time | 04:48 |
| canthus13 | I've seen quite a few reports of it either being really slow installing, or not installing at all. something to do with btrfs. | 04:50 |
| * canthus13 is using vbox4. | 04:50 | |
| canthus13 | It's amazingly slow to install. I've had it going for over 2 hours now. | 04:50 |
| BiosElement | It is | 04:50 |
| canthus13 | CentOS installed in about 30 minutes. | 04:51 |
| canthus13 | Debian netinst took about the same. | 04:51 |
| canthus13 | meh. it's at 44%. | 04:51 |
| BiosElement | Anyone hear of this TipTheWeb thing? | 04:53 |
| BiosElement | I've been reading posts on flattr and they're spamming it everywhere >.< | 04:53 |
| BiosElement | Beginning to suspect it's a total scam or if not, ran by spammy desperate people >.> | 04:53 |
| BiosElement | Ahh, yes. The entire basis is fishy. You can "tip" any website, and then a content owner has to randomly come along and 'claim' the page to get the tip. | 04:55 |
| canthus13 | 52% | 05:02 |
| BiosElement | BTW | 05:02 |
| canthus13 | eh? | 05:02 |
| BiosElement | I'm going to make a Ubu-OH Convore group in a few. In fact I wonder if there's an ubuntu group >.> | 05:02 |
| canthus13 | Convore? | 05:03 |
| BiosElement | Google Wave done right. https://convore.com/ | 05:03 |
| Unit193 | This isn't something I would need to signup for? | 05:03 |
| canthus13 | Ah. | 05:03 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: FB/Twit integration with OpenID Expected soon. | 05:03 |
| * BiosElement bloody hates OpenID >.< | 05:03 | |
| Unit193 | I like OpenID better then FB... | 05:05 |
| BiosElement | Heh, I'm a FB Fan myself. For the most part I'm not paranoid, I don't mind being sold to adverts. :P | 05:06 |
| Unit193 | I do have an account! | 05:06 |
| * Unit193 finds BiosElement and canthus13 | 05:07 | |
| BiosElement | lol, facebook.com/bioselemnet | 05:07 |
| BiosElement | *bioselement | 05:07 |
| BiosElement | Cannot type | 05:07 |
| Unit193 | tleds is kinda funny... | 05:16 |
| canthus13 | 79% | 05:44 |
| Unit193 | At least it's working! Maybe I should try tomorrow to see if it's just you... | 05:45 |
| canthus13 | 90% | 05:57 |
| canthus13 | Unit193: I'm still on beta 2. | 05:57 |
| Unit193 | I was just thinking it's too late tonight to start... | 05:58 |
| canthus13 | Installing GRUB. :) | 06:01 |
| canthus13 | Start it, and once you've finished all the account setup, go to sleep. | 06:02 |
| canthus13 | If all goes well, all that's left is to tell it to install grub when you wake up. | 06:02 |
| Unit193 | That won't tell me how long it takes | 06:02 |
| canthus13 | Ah. | 06:02 |
| Unit193 | I have Xubuntu 11.04 B2 installed | 06:03 |
| canthus13 | It's slow to boot, that's for sure. | 06:04 |
| canthus13 | Aww. I don't have the hardware to run unity. what a shame. | 06:05 |
| Unit193 | Doesn't that give you Gnome then? | 06:06 |
| canthus13 | Yep. | 06:06 |
| Unit193 | Let me guess. If you don't have bad H/W, you don't get the option? | 06:07 |
| canthus13 | Probably. It's because I don't yet have the guest additions installed. | 06:07 |
| canthus13 | Woo. 200MB worth of updates. | 06:13 |
| Cheri703 | hola skrapp_jaw | 06:14 |
| canthus13 | Wow. They made plain gnome uglier.... | 06:15 |
| skrapp_jaw | whats up | 06:17 |
| skrapp_jaw | i have learned a new trick | 06:17 |
| skrapp_jaw | :) | 06:17 |
| Unit193 | Backflip? | 06:17 |
| Cheri703 | oh? | 06:17 |
| skrapp_jaw | x2x x11 keyboard/mouse share | 06:17 |
| Cheri703 | nice | 06:17 |
| skrapp_jaw | My desktop pc has a terrible keyboard and mouse so i ssh'd from the laptop. | 06:18 |
| skrapp_jaw | lol | 06:18 |
| Unit193 | Like synergy? | 06:18 |
| skrapp_jaw | yea | 06:18 |
| skrapp_jaw | well | 06:18 |
| skrapp_jaw | maybe. ive not used that | 06:18 |
| skrapp_jaw | this was simple. | 06:18 |
| skrapp_jaw | I dig it alot. | 06:19 |
| Unit193 | Synergy can be very nice when you're fixing a computer for someone! | 06:20 |
| skrapp_jaw | its easier to work like this with one keyboard and mouse than 2. | 06:20 |
| SkrappJaw | lol. now im on the laptop | 06:20 |
| SkrappJaw | :P | 06:21 |
| SkrappJaw | Im using an HD tv monitor but im having problems with the resolution. | 06:21 |
| SkrappJaw | that and the wlan card wont pick up networks anymore... so im jacked in with a cat5 ethernet cable and some x2x. :P | 06:22 |
| canthus13 | Holy crap. updates are CRAWLING... | 06:25 |
| Unit193 | Sign you should not use normal Ubuntu? | 06:26 |
| canthus13 | A sign that if it doesn't change I'm switching distros | 06:30 |
| Unit193 | Go with Xubuntu... | 06:30 |
| SkrappJaw | my desktop is now on 1600x900 resolution | 06:30 |
| SkrappJaw | lol | 06:31 |
| BiosElement | I gather he's bitching about overloaded servers, not the distro | 06:31 |
| Unit193 | (I know it's not another distro) | 06:31 |
| BiosElement | canthus13: 11.04? | 06:31 |
| SkrappJaw | I updated earlier. | 06:31 |
| canthus13 | BiosElement: Yup | 06:33 |
| BiosElement | canthus13: Explains i then, dev stuff are on shittier servers last I looked. | 06:34 |
| canthus13 | BiosElement: it's an issue with btrfs from what I've read. | 06:34 |
| Cheri703 | SkrappJaw: are you planning to go to the thing in columbus on sunday? | 06:34 |
| BiosElement | Don't use btrfs for anything you give a flying f about | 06:34 |
| canthus13 | It's serious enough that bhy all rights the release should be delayed. | 06:34 |
| BiosElement | It still doesn't have fully working disc checks. | 06:35 |
| canthus13 | BiosElement: I didn't really have a choice on this. | 06:35 |
| BiosElement | canthus13: Is btrfs the default? | 06:35 |
| canthus13 | Although, actually, it's ext4. | 06:35 |
| canthus13 | Hrm. | 06:35 |
| BiosElement | If you're in vbox, take a nap. The slowness is from vbox being lame. | 06:35 |
| canthus13 | BiosElement: I don't have this issue with any other distro. | 06:37 |
| canthus13 | Heck, I don't have the issue with Lucid in vbox. | 06:37 |
| BiosElement | I do. Virtual disc drives are always somewhat slow for updates. Be it Fedora, Debian, Mint or Ubuntu. I used ext4 for all of them. | 06:37 |
| canthus13 | I have moderate slowness with the full disk encryption I'm using on a crunchbang install. | 06:37 |
| Unit193 | BiosElement: You have Mint in VBox? Why is this if you don't like it? | 06:40 |
| BiosElement | canthus13: I suspect the problem isn't ubuntu, but upstream since I've seen a problems like that myself. | 06:40 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: I don't have it now, I tried it out to see if it was any better. It wasn't. | 06:40 |
| BiosElement | Kinda unfair for me to bitch about something I last tried 2 years ago isn't it? ;) | 06:40 |
| Unit193 | I have tried it sooner then that! I don't think I would install it on another computer... | 06:41 |
| Unit193 | It has some nice features though... | 06:43 |
| * canthus13 likes the opening 'where to find help' window in Mint. | 06:44 | |
| Unit193 | Default restricted drivers? Don't they have DVD support out of the box? | 06:45 |
| canthus13 | yup. | 06:45 |
| Unit193 | +1! | 06:45 |
| Unit193 | Friend said he didn't like linux because it couldn't play dvds | 06:46 |
| SkrappJaw | anyone know how to get the HDMI video out to work on a sony vaio laptop? | 06:46 |
| canthus13 | Never tried. | 06:48 |
| canthus13 | #ubuntu would be a better place to ask. | 06:48 |
| Cheri703 | what video card? | 06:48 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: They do. It's illegal but they have mp3 support out of the box | 06:49 |
| Unit193 | BiosElement: They have a USA/Japan version ;) | 06:50 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: Bullshit, the default is still illegal and we all know what the users will click. >.< | 06:51 |
| Unit193 | That tick box in Ubuntu install doesn't give you DVD support (Does it give MP3?) | 06:51 |
| BiosElement | It does, I think it gives DVD too. | 06:51 |
| Cheri703 | no it doesn't BiosElement | 06:51 |
| * Cheri703 had to install it separately | 06:51 | |
| BiosElement | It's an effective workaround to the distribution. | 06:51 |
| Cheri703 | unless they changed it for 11.04 | 06:52 |
| BiosElement | Cheri703: Really? I may be wrong. I just thought it installed ubuntu-restricted-extras, which has DVD I thought | 06:52 |
| Unit193 | I would only recommend Mint to someone that I don't want to tell how to install medibuntu | 06:52 |
| Cheri703 | you have to install other stuff for it | 06:52 |
| BiosElement | Cheri703: I don't pretend to know for sure, I never really use DVD's with my comp >.< | 06:53 |
| Cheri703 | I use a netbook :) | 06:53 |
| Cheri703 | but I've had to install it on a few computers | 06:53 |
| BiosElement | I'd never send anyone off to install linux mint, I just can't trust how they do anything there. | 06:54 |
| BiosElement | Ubuntu may not always be the most transparent, but ugh, I gave up trying to figure out what mint does for planning anything. | 06:54 |
| Unit193 | Explain to a non-computer user how to add a repo... | 06:55 |
| Cheri703 | "press ctrl-alt-t then copy this: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:blahblahblah and paste it into terminal...press enter" | 06:56 |
| Unit193 | Cheri703: Not with medibuntu... | 06:56 |
| Cheri703 | eh, with others | 06:56 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: I wouldn't. | 06:57 |
| Unit193 | Then how do you get DVD support if that's the deal breaker? (I would just install it for that friend) | 06:58 |
| BiosElement | libdvdcss2 package | 06:58 |
| Cheri703 | HDMI video out to work on a sony vaio laptop | 06:59 |
| Cheri703 | bah | 06:59 |
| Cheri703 | one sec | 06:59 |
| BiosElement | It's not a separate repo. | 06:59 |
| Cheri703 | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | 06:59 |
| Cheri703 | actually pretty easy | 06:59 |
| BiosElement | Actually, it's now libdvdread4 | 06:59 |
| Cheri703 | I ssh'd into my mom's computer and installed for her :) | 06:59 |
| BiosElement | Cheri703: According to the help docs, dvd IS installed when you tick the box | 07:00 |
| Cheri703 | hmm...it wasn't working with my mom's till I did that stuff | 07:00 |
| BiosElement | However a script needs to be ran as root for some FUBAR'd reason | 07:00 |
| BiosElement | Yay for lawyers | 07:01 |
| SkrappJaw | nvm. i figured it out | 07:03 |
| SkrappJaw | lol | 07:03 |
| Cheri703 | good :) | 07:03 |
| BiosElement | Holy hell this has gotta be the worst site I've seen for ages | 07:10 |
| BiosElement | That also happens to be spamming the hell outta planet kde | 07:10 |
| * BiosElement hunts for someone to complain too | 07:11 | |
| BiosElement | LMFAO!!!! | 07:18 |
| BiosElement | It gets better | 07:18 |
| BiosElement | He moderates comments and so I 'know' he's read the other 4 comments over the past few days that he's spamming the planet | 07:18 |
| Unit193 | I can't tell if DVD support is in extras or not... | 07:24 |
| BiosElement | Unit193: ...Did you read the link Cheri gave you? | 07:32 |
| BiosElement | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | 07:32 |
| Unit193 | Sorry, I was thinking if it did during the install... (I did read that, I normally use medi) | 07:33 |
| BiosElement | It does, but you need to run one command line due to legal bs | 07:33 |
| Unit193 | OK, I didn't know for *sure* if it did with libdvdcss... (I take it the installer does happen to tell you that?) | 07:34 |
| BiosElement | libdvdcss is installed by the command line | 07:35 |
| Unit193 | Yes, that's what you said, thank you | 07:35 |
| BiosElement | Ahh cool, your welcome | 07:35 |
| canthus13 | Hmm... Installing with ext3 seems to be faster. | 13:02 |
| deejoe | canthus13: installing what? | 13:22 |
| canthus13 | deejoe: Natty in virtualbox. ext4 took several hours to install. | 13:22 |
| canthus13 | It's still slow to boot... :/ | 13:23 |
| deejoe | yow | 13:24 |
| deejoe | what physical hardware, and what vb hw? | 13:24 |
| canthus13 | Dell inspiron 1545... and vb 4.0.6 | 13:25 |
| * canthus13 is building the guest additions right now.. we'll see if they work this time. they didn't in beta 2. :/ | 13:26 | |
| deejoe | canthus13: yeah, I was wondering more about RAM and proc specifics | 13:26 |
| deejoe | I suppose disk subsystems would be relevant, too. | 13:27 |
| canthus13 | Oh. 1.25GB ram, 2.1ghz dual core proc. | 13:27 |
| deejoe | and how much of that did you give over to the vb? | 13:27 |
| canthus13 | Umm.. SATA drive... Encrypted home folder, which might be part of the speed issue. | 13:27 |
| deejoe | oh, heck yes | 13:27 |
| deejoe | the encryption is probably a big player | 13:28 |
| canthus13 | It wasn't causing the speed issues I had last night... It took 4 hours to complete the install. CentOS installed in vbox on the same drive without any issues. | 13:28 |
| deejoe | also with encryption | 13:28 |
| canthus13 | TO be clear, the encrypted home folder is the ost machine. | 13:28 |
| canthus13 | *host | 13:29 |
| deejoe | haha, ouch | 13:29 |
| canthus13 | Also have a crunchbang install in vbox that has full disk encryption and it's not nearly as slow. | 13:29 |
| deejoe | nice to have those comparisons | 13:29 |
| deejoe | installing from net, or from CD? | 13:30 |
| canthus13 | iso with the net update option checked. | 13:30 |
| * deejoe wonders if release-time network contention . . . | 13:30 | |
| deejoe | ah | 13:30 |
| canthus13 | Woo. guest additions worked this time. | 13:31 |
| deejoe | so, shouldn't have held up the bulk of it, but maybe the net update contributed. | 13:31 |
| canthus13 | I'm actually thinking it's some weird interaction with ext4 and the VM. | 13:31 |
| * deejoe is trying to think of what a bug report on this might look like | 13:31 | |
| deejoe | ext4 on the guest | 13:32 |
| canthus13 | THere are bug reports already out about it with all sorts of conjectures about what the issue might be... | 13:33 |
| canthus13 | Updating to the latest version of vbox seems to have helped some. | 13:34 |
| deejoe | there are so many dimensions to these sorts of things these days | 13:36 |
| * deejoe *almost* wishes for the simpler times before widespread virtualization | 13:36 | |
| canthus13 | Wow. they uglified the 'classic' version. | 13:39 |
| canthus13 | They went back to the old icon set... left all sorts of little details undone. | 13:41 |
| canthus13 | buttons, window decorations are a throwback to 2001... | 13:46 |
| canthus13 | Ah well. I'll see what 11.10 is like in a few months. :) | 13:47 |
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| thafreak | Well happy release day to you all | 15:46 |
| _bbb | cheers | 15:47 |
| thafreak | is everyone playing nice, and using zsync and/or torrents? | 15:49 |
| thafreak | wow, so using zsync, it seems that only about 30% of the iso changed since beta2 | 16:05 |
| thafreak | ugh, you gotta be kidding me...stupid university packet shapers... | 16:19 |
| thafreak | it's sad when downloading the iso's via http, you get 2MB/s, and bittorrent, you only get MAYBE 100kB/s....lame | 16:20 |
| thafreak | oops, more like >5MiBs via http... | 16:24 |
| thafreak | Alright, I don't hate unity...in fact, I think my wife will love it | 16:47 |
| thafreak | me, I'll stick with crunchbang on my netbook though :) | 16:47 |
| * canthus13 despises unity. | 17:31 | |
| canthus13 | It's like it was designed with a barely-literate idiot in mind. It's insulting. | 17:32 |
| canthus13 | thafreak: Oh? I maxed out my connection with the torrent. (3.6Mbyte/sec) | 17:33 |
| canthus13 | Actually enabling compiz on the classic version breaks window decorations. :( | 17:34 |
| canthus13 | I swear it's like they're making standard gnome intolerable on purpose. | 17:34 |
| canthus13 | ..And apparently, enabling compiz in classic breaks unity. | 17:37 |
| deejoe | canthus13: it wasn't until I saw the release announcement that I *got* what they're trying for with Unity. | 17:53 |
| deejoe | shows how much I've been paying attention, really. | 17:53 |
| Derath-Srvr | ? | 17:53 |
| deejoe | Derath-Srvr: ‽ | 17:53 |
| Derath-Srvr | Can't say that I've really looked into unity yet... | 17:54 |
| deejoe | me neither | 17:54 |
| Derath-Srvr | So what are they trying to do with it? | 17:54 |
| deejoe | unify the experience across form factors | 17:55 |
| deejoe | or, at least, the software, if not the experience | 17:55 |
| Derath-Srvr | interesting | 17:55 |
| canthus13 | deejoe: It's more like catering to the dumbest common denominator. | 17:55 |
| deejoe | I can see why they might *want* to do it, but it may end up being a quality experience like cutting down a tree with your Swiss Army Knife is a quality experience | 17:56 |
| canthus13 | I can see where someone with zero computer experience would have an easy time of it, but it's sort of like how a barbie power wheel is easy to drive. | 17:56 |
| deejoe | canthus13: given that I'm writing you via a combination of gnome-terminal+screen+ssh+screen+irssi, I'm not sure the extent to which that wasn't already true with GNOME or KDE to begin with already. | 17:57 |
| * Derath-Srvr smirks | 17:57 | |
| Derath-Srvr | And I'm using Windows, putty, ssh, screen, irssi here lol | 17:57 |
| canthus13 | Derath-Srvr: Ew. I use FreeNX to get to my machine at home and pretend windows isn't there. :) | 17:58 |
| canthus13 | ...at which point I use gnome terminal to ssh into my server and recover irssi running in a screen session. | 17:58 |
| Derath-Srvr | canthus13: Problem is restrictive software policies at work... | 17:59 |
| canthus13 | FreeNX has a portable version. :) | 17:59 |
| Derath-Srvr | Putty is a necessary tool, therefore allowed, FreeNX is not allowed on the network or pcs | 17:59 |
| Derath-Srvr | does someone have the details of the meeting handy on their screen at the moment? | 18:01 |
| Derath-Srvr | Location, time, etc? | 18:02 |
| Unit193 | Columbus main library 3rd floor board room on Sunday May 1st from 1 pm to 5 pm. | 18:05 |
| Unit193 | Derath-Srvr: Try KiTTY if you have to use windows (Some features over PuTTY) | 18:06 |
| Derath-Srvr | Unit193: Again, software restrictions at work... | 18:07 |
| Derath-Srvr | Approved software only | 18:07 |
| Derath-Srvr | Okay, started my server-side torrent pull... | 18:13 |
| Derath-Srvr | Will have to move it to the webserver so I can download it here at work... | 18:14 |
| thafreak | Well, I don't think I'll be using unity at work, or on my main laptop, or my netbook...or on any of my virtual desktops (not that you could anyway) | 18:17 |
| thafreak | but the computer that I share with my wife, that I mainly just pull up a terminal or 12 on...and maybe an nx/vnc viewer....yeah I could see using it there | 18:17 |
| thafreak | hell, it would even be sorta nice on my netbook, if my netbook didn't suck... | 18:18 |
| thafreak | but I'm happy with crunchbang there :) | 18:18 |
| thafreak | Anyone ever use aria2? It's pretty slick...drop dead simple cli download tool... | 18:20 |
| thafreak | you can replace wget, bittorrent, etc with one tool... | 18:20 |
| thafreak | and you can give it multiple like http for ftp locations, and it will download from all the sources simultaneously... | 18:21 |
| Derath-Srvr | Okay, what's going on here... I thought someone said the install cd had Unity on it... | 19:11 |
| Unit193 | It does... Ubuntu 11.04 has Unity | 19:13 |
| Derath-Srvr | Okay, I grabbed the 64b desktop, and I'm staring at gnome... | 19:13 |
| Derath-Srvr | is it only the 32b that is using it then? | 19:14 |
| Derath-Srvr | Or is it just the "installed" versions that are forcing unity? | 19:14 |
| Unit193 | Is this in a VM? | 19:14 |
| Derath-Srvr | Yeah | 19:15 |
| Derath-Srvr | a very limited vm | 19:15 |
| Unit193 | I'm not sure if a VM will run Unity? | 19:17 |
| * Unit193 doesn't know and has only seen screenshots of Un Unity | 19:19 | |
| Derath-Srvr | only error I got: <tde> | 19:20 |
| Derath-Srvr | <copypastecell supported="true"/> | 19:20 |
| Derath-Srvr | </tde>Whoops... | 19:21 |
| Derath-Srvr | wrong one... | 19:21 |
| Derath-Srvr | SMBus base address uninitialized - upgrade bios or use force_addr=0xaddr | 19:21 |
| canthus13 | Derath-Srvr: Unity requires 3d acceleration. it defaults to gnome without it. | 19:22 |
| canthus13 | Derath-Srvr: I got that with the older version of vbox. 4.0.6 doesn't seem to do it. | 19:23 |
| Derath-Srvr | So, I would need to install ubuntu, and load in the guest additions? | 19:23 |
| canthus13 | Yep. and the guest additions don't work right until you install 4.0.6. Looks like it was an emergency update that was put out early this mornign. | 19:25 |
| canthus13 | (Which seems odd for oracle...) | 19:26 |
| Derath-Srvr | Alright, let's see if this worked to show the Unity desktop | 20:09 |
| Derath-Srvr | Interesting, there's a VirtualMachine kernel in the repos... | 20:14 |
| Derath-Srvr | for virtual appliances.. | 20:14 |
| Unit193 | Would it help in VirtualBox? | 20:14 |
| Derath-Srvr | unknown | 20:15 |
| Derath-Srvr | taking too long to pull down and try... | 20:15 |
| Derath-Srvr | But it also appears that gdm or unity is crashing at the moment.. | 20:15 |
| Derath-Srvr | Interesting... | 20:34 |
| Derath-Srvr | Okay, I like some aspects of Unity, and there's some that I really dislike so far... granted only a quick look at the moment | 20:36 |
| Unit193 | Derath-Srvr: What are you thinking of Unity now? | 22:35 |
| canthus13 | Murderous thoughts... | 22:44 |
| Cheri703 | heh | 22:46 |
| Unit193 | Should I try Unity... | 22:46 |
| canthus13 | Sure. It'll give you a baseline for how to treat a user like a complete moron. | 22:57 |
| BiosElement | I find it funny that people are still shocked about apple's general location tracking | 23:26 |
| BiosElement | WHen Windows phones transmit your GPS coords directly to microsoft >.> | 23:26 |
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