| valorie | anyone interested in meeting up tomorrow night? | 02:34 |
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| valorie | at http://www.yelp.com/biz/proletariat-pizza-seattle-2 | 02:35 |
| valorie | I asked on the list last night, but no replies yet | 02:35 |
| valorie | Salt androidbruce aVH-[e] c0nv1ct MJEvans seattlegaucho ubuntulo1_ zenrox | 02:36 |
| valorie | ? | 02:36 |
| zenrox | i cant drive 300 miles | 02:37 |
| zenrox | no gas | 02:37 |
| valorie | boo | 02:47 |
| valorie | call a party and I'll drive to you! | 02:47 |
| valorie | seriously, we should have some events in the east of the state | 02:47 |
| valorie | and south | 02:48 |
| zenrox | ya i will be living in moses lake area in the next 2 weeks | 02:59 |
| valorie | nice area | 03:00 |
| zenrox | not really | 03:01 |
| zenrox | its called moses hole for a reasion | 03:01 |
| valorie | heh | 03:22 |
| valorie | why are you moving there, then? | 03:22 |
| zenrox | dshs is screing me on the amount of cash i get and cant afford my rent | 03:23 |
| zenrox | so i am moving in with my wifes parents till i can go to school for truck driving | 03:24 |
| zenrox | and get off the states back | 03:24 |
| valorie | dshs.....grrr | 03:29 |
| valorie | not a fun dept. to deal with | 03:29 |
| zenrox | nope | 03:30 |
| zenrox | i was getting 336 then 225 now 197 | 03:31 |
| zenrox | its the cutbacks | 03:31 |
| valorie | at least we aren't cutting out the poor and unemployed here to give tax breaks to the rich, like some of the states | 03:36 |
| valorie | it still sucks horribly to cut social programs and education | 03:36 |
| valorie | when really we need to raise taxes | 03:37 |
| valorie | stupid people of Washington! | 03:37 |
| zenrox | its not even that we just need to use all the money more effencently | 03:38 |
| zenrox | and washington is one of the most heavly taxed state allready | 03:38 |
| valorie | we've cut and cut and cut and cut | 03:38 |
| valorie | well, we have a horrible regressive tax system | 03:39 |
| valorie | we don't tax the rich at all | 03:39 |
| valorie | just the poor and middle class | 03:39 |
| zenrox | thay should tax the rich more | 03:39 |
| valorie | very bad tax system here -- all sales tax and property tax | 03:39 |
| zenrox | we dont have sales tax on food | 03:40 |
| valorie | but people keep voting down the income tax | 03:40 |
| valorie | over and over again | 03:40 |
| zenrox | but sails tax on everythang else | 03:40 |
| valorie | silly washingtonions | 03:40 |
| zenrox | we have an income tax | 03:40 |
| zenrox | and property | 03:40 |
| valorie | no state income tax | 03:42 |
| valorie | there is B&O on business, which is not a good tax | 03:43 |
| valorie | property, which is..... sort of OK | 03:43 |
| valorie | and sales | 03:43 |
| valorie | no income tax | 03:43 |
| valorie | and we need one, and lower the sales tax | 03:43 |
| valorie | it is a crime that kids in this state can't afford to attend at least community colleges | 03:44 |
| valorie | if not university! | 03:44 |
| valorie | whole damn country is going backwards | 03:44 |
| valorie | anyway, this is off-topic, and i'm sorry for ranting | 03:44 |
| zenrox | dont worrie about ranting i agree | 03:45 |
| valorie | we're logged, and I was off-topic | 03:46 |
| valorie | religion and politics aren't good in technical spaces | 03:46 |
| zenrox | no one is here to really get us in trubble | 03:46 |
| valorie | not very good for community | 03:46 |
| zenrox | i dont care about bing on or off topic | 03:47 |
| valorie | right, but we want people to be able to google us, and read the logs | 03:47 |
| valorie | I do | 03:47 |
| zenrox | hmm | 03:47 |
| zenrox | true | 03:47 |
| valorie | sec | 03:47 |
| zenrox | but i cant wate for the xubuntu natty 11.04 | 03:51 |
| valorie | we've pretty much got it | 03:59 |
| valorie | in the dailies | 03:59 |
| zenrox | ya | 04:01 |
| seattlegaucho | valorie: what date? | 17:49 |
| Salt | nbr has been dropped, just grabbed the main image and will have it on the eee for linuxfest | 18:24 |
| valorie | tonight | 20:46 |
| androidbruce | anyone upgrade from 10.10? | 21:06 |
| zenrox | i did but it was a fresh install of 10.10 | 21:09 |
| zenrox | i report no issues but i dont like unity it was nice in the terms of usabily but not something i liked so i switched to xubuntu | 21:15 |
| valorie | I'm backup up home right now in preparation of upgrade | 21:34 |
| valorie | but tht's kubuntu, of course | 21:35 |
| valorie | 60% done..... | 21:35 |
| seattlegaucho | not upgrading until a few weeks / couple of months go by | 21:46 |
| seattlegaucho | valorie: kubuntu f'd up the release and had a quick patch posted | 21:46 |
| valorie | interesting | 21:46 |
| valorie | haven't dipped into #kubuntu-devel yet | 21:47 |
| valorie | that would make me hold off, for sure | 21:47 |
| valorie | thanks for the tip | 21:47 |
| seattlegaucho | I got it from their twitter feed | 21:47 |
| Salt | valorie, due to the obvious popularity of the party tonight, i'm not gonna be able to make it myself | 21:53 |
| Salt | i can stop by | 21:54 |
| Salt | but i can't stay long | 21:54 |
| valorie | well, it sounds like no one wants a party | 21:56 |
| valorie | unless I have replies this morning..... | 21:57 |
| Salt | yeah | 21:57 |
| valorie | I'm not driving an hour to sit by myself | 21:57 |
| Salt | yeah | 21:57 |
| Salt | figured i'd let ya know :) | 21:57 |
| valorie | well, I'll see you Sat. | 21:58 |
| Salt | yeap | 21:58 |
| * seattlegaucho .oO( stupid KDE restarted on its own for no reason ) | 23:30 | |
| androidbruce | 10.10 is my best friend right now | 23:31 |
| seattlegaucho | kubuntu had some disturbing tweets this morning | 23:32 |
| seattlegaucho | not upgrading for a while | 23:32 |
| zenrox | xubuntu is nice | 23:33 |
| seattlegaucho | zenrox: by the time I installed my preferred packages, I already would have enough KDE and/or Gnome in place that I'd rather go w/ the full desktop | 23:33 |
| valorie | well, I'm seeding all the kub's while I wait for my backup to finish | 23:33 |
| seattlegaucho | amarok & quassel are good examples | 23:34 |
| zenrox | xfce plays nice with all of gnome and kde | 23:34 |
| zenrox | also e17 is also fun to play with | 23:34 |
| seattlegaucho | yes, but kde packages start installing all the libraries ... which beats the purpose of using xfce -> thin | 23:35 |
| zenrox | only when you use a kde app | 23:35 |
| zenrox | and you can go thru and kill them after your done with it | 23:35 |
| seattlegaucho | which I do quite a bit since I like them :) | 23:36 |
| zenrox | a bit of a pain but a miner pain in the but | 23:36 |
| zenrox | i only use a few apps | 23:36 |
| zenrox | from kde | 23:36 |
| seattlegaucho | OTH I'm running on a i7 Quad w/ 8G of RAM and almost 1T of disk @ work ... so thin makes no sense :) | 23:37 |
| zenrox | true | 23:37 |
| seattlegaucho | and I didn't like xfce UI on my netbook | 23:37 |
| zenrox | but for a lappy like mine is does | 23:37 |
| zenrox | os[Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "natty" 11.04] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon Dual-Core QL-62 (AuthenticAMD) @ 1000MHz] mem[Physical: 2.7GB, 75.3% free] disk[Total: 229.2GB, 76.6% free] video[nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200M G]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia] | 23:37 |
| seattlegaucho | I'm hoping KDE cleaned up their Netbook edition | 23:38 |
| androidbruce | the new xfce is cool | 23:38 |
| androidbruce | nice to see it's not abandoned | 23:38 |
| zenrox | androidbruce, agreed | 23:38 |
| androidbruce | im still a gnome fan | 23:38 |
| seattlegaucho | I might try it as well ... I always run it first on a VM to get a feel ... then go for it | 23:39 |
| androidbruce | seattlegaucho: vm's ftw | 23:39 |
| zenrox | i dint like unity | 23:39 |
| zenrox | i like my std menus | 23:39 |
| androidbruce | ehh unity is :/ | 23:39 |
| seattlegaucho | androidbruce: I'm forced to use gnome on my netbook ... kde is too fat for it | 23:39 |
| androidbruce | it has potential | 23:39 |
| androidbruce | kde is super fat | 23:39 |
| androidbruce | and just..............bleh | 23:39 |
| zenrox | unity was nice to use but it wasnt for me | 23:39 |
| seattlegaucho | kde has superior eye candy | 23:39 |
| zenrox | kde allways was superfat | 23:40 |
| seattlegaucho | kde loads all the resources up front ... as opposed to gnome that loads them on demand | 23:40 |
| zenrox | not any more tho | 23:40 |
| zenrox | gnome is loading more at start up | 23:40 |
| seattlegaucho | with big apps I like kde's approach, although it has been buggy for years given its complexity | 23:40 |
| zenrox | now than it has bine | 23:40 |
| zenrox | i have bine wating for kde to clean up there source so it was a little more faster so to speek | 23:41 |
| seattlegaucho | they re-architect everything every now and then ... so it's pointless :/ | 23:42 |
| zenrox | ya i know | 23:42 |
| zenrox | but thare are allway more than one way to skin a cat | 23:43 |
| zenrox | but thats what linux is all about | 23:44 |
| zenrox | pick what you like and use it | 23:44 |
| seattlegaucho | pretty much | 23:45 |
| zenrox | so eatch to there own | 23:45 |
| zenrox | thoes i am happy with what i am useing and it works the way i expect | 23:46 |
| zenrox | only issue i am worried about with xfce is a gui menu editior like alacarte for gnome | 23:46 |
| valorie | KDE <3 | 23:48 |
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