| EagleScreen | hello | 01:27 |
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| EagleScreen | hello | 01:27 |
| EagleScreen | will be available soon intel driver 2.15.0 in X Updates PPA? | 01:28 |
| jcastro | bryceh: ping me next week if you want me to slide that X session out of monday | 03:09 |
| bryceh | jcastro, yeah we'd like it to be thurs or friday | 03:15 |
| jcastro | the scheduler will run again tomorrow | 03:16 |
| jcastro | but remind me next week after the schedule's settled down | 03:16 |
| bryceh | jcastro, sounds like you need a todo list program ;-) | 03:17 |
| jcastro | bryceh: this is my "if they care they will ping again but I won't make too much of an effort right now but I want to sound useful." | 03:18 |
| bryceh | *snortle* | 03:19 |
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| bjsnider | ricotz, the default gnome 3 font doesn't seem to be available here. is it on your system? | 18:44 |
| bjsnider | cantarell | 18:45 |
| ricotz | bjsnider, no it isnt available, i just customized them | 18:47 |
| EagleScreen | bryceh: can I expect an upload of intel driver 2.15.0 soon in X-Updates PPA?? | 19:21 |
| EagleScreen | anyone else? | 19:21 |
| bryceh | EagleScreen, perhaps, if someone has some freetime to do it, although with the release people are pretty busy | 19:35 |
| bryceh | EagleScreen, would you be interested in joining the xorg-edgers team to help do updates? | 19:35 |
| EagleScreen | i am a beginer packager | 19:36 |
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| EagleScreen | but if you think I can help.. i'd join | 19:38 |
| bryceh | EagleScreen, that's probably fine - there are scripts you run to generate the packages, so it doesn't require a heavy amount of packaging know-how (except when you need to troubleshoot problems, which others can help with anyway) | 19:39 |
| bryceh | let me dig up some additional info for you to look at | 19:39 |
| bryceh | EagleScreen, on https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers scroll down to "Contributors to xorg-edgers be welcome" and read that section | 19:41 |
| bryceh | it shows where you can get the script, and how to run it to get a new upstream snapshot of a video driver | 19:42 |
| bryceh | EagleScreen, give that a try and see if you can make a 2.15.0 snapshot driver for yourself | 19:42 |
| EagleScreen | ok | 19:47 |
| EagleScreen | but i was thinking in make stable 2.15.0 not a git snapshot | 19:48 |
| EagleScreen | i was playing with debian unstable (KDE) and i have seen that desktop effects works pretty well with my intel card, then i thougth it was by the 2.15.0 driver newer than 2.14 in Kubuntu natty, but now i see that debian esting with 2.14.0 also have good desktop effects | 19:50 |
| EagleScreen | in natty ther are very slow and KDE disable them | 19:51 |
| EagleScreen | so it must be another thing more than the 2.15.0 | 19:52 |
| bryceh | EagleScreen, ok well one of us will eventually get 2.15.0 into x-updates once some of the more pressing issues are taken care of | 20:04 |
| bryceh | actually with the release out now it's probably a good time to refresh x-updates. | 20:05 |
| EagleScreen | yes, but 2.15.0 may not fix the desktop effects issue since they work in Debian under 2.14.0 | 20:06 |
| EagleScreen | the difference must be in another X package, may be some library | 20:06 |
| Sarvatt | it's not in there yet because of libdrm, the nvidia package will depend on the newer libdrm (even though it doesn't use it) and a lot of people just install the nvidia deb from that PPA which will screw up things | 20:07 |
| Sarvatt | kde effects being slow would be mesa | 20:07 |
| bryceh | heya Sarvatt | 20:08 |
| Sarvatt | more than likely I bet you're seeing that blur is disabled automatically in debian, but its getting enabled in ubuntu which is leading to the disable effects fallback | 20:08 |
| Sarvatt | heyo bryceh! | 20:09 |
| EagleScreen | both natty and Debian have 7.10.2 | 20:09 |
| Sarvatt | yeah but debian does not revert the commit that breaks direct rendering in KDE in their mesa | 20:10 |
| Sarvatt | (which means no blur automatically on intel) | 20:10 |
| EagleScreen | then, direct rendering is broken now in Debian testing? how do I check it? | 20:12 |
| Sarvatt | i'm not familiar with KDE to answer that, I think there's a lot that tells you if direct rendering is enabled? let me dig up the bug reports | 20:13 |
| Sarvatt | log rather | 20:13 |
| Sarvatt | EagleScreen: ~/.xsession-errors | 20:14 |
| Sarvatt | on debian it will say | 20:14 |
| bjsnider | ricotz, the problem ryan paul complained about in his review of gnome 3, where there's too much white space everywhere is due to the cantarell font. i just installed and tested it. the ubuntu font looks better from the standpoint of whitespace. | 20:14 |
| Sarvatt | Direct rendering: no | 20:14 |
| Sarvatt | Requires strict binding: yes | 20:14 |
| Sarvatt | GLSL shaders: no | 20:14 |
| Sarvatt | and on natty it will say | 20:14 |
| Sarvatt | Direct rendering: yes | 20:14 |
| Sarvatt | Requires strict binding: yes | 20:14 |
| Sarvatt | GLSL shaders: yes | 20:14 |
| bjsnider | looks like cantarell adds a lot of padding on the top of the letters | 20:15 |
| EagleScreen | i dont see that lines in the file | 20:17 |
| Sarvatt | EagleScreen: run kwin manually maybe? should be in the terminal output when you run it | 20:17 |
| Sarvatt | alternatively, just disable blur and lanczos in kwin to stop the fallbacks | 20:21 |
| EagleScreen | i still dont see it, neither on terminal | 20:21 |
| EagleScreen | i dont know what blur is | 20:21 |
| EagleScreen | and how to disable it | 20:21 |
| Sarvatt | I dont know how to disable it in KDE either, was under the impression there was an option in the GUI to do it though. anyone else here know? | 20:23 |
| Sarvatt | quite a lot of interesting linaro sessions this time around | 22:33 |
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