[01:27] hello [01:27] hello [01:28] will be available soon intel driver 2.15.0 in X Updates PPA? [03:09] bryceh: ping me next week if you want me to slide that X session out of monday [03:15] jcastro, yeah we'd like it to be thurs or friday [03:16] the scheduler will run again tomorrow [03:16] but remind me next week after the schedule's settled down [03:17] jcastro, sounds like you need a todo list program ;-) [03:18] bryceh: this is my "if they care they will ping again but I won't make too much of an effort right now but I want to sound useful." [03:19] *snortle* === soreau_ is now known as soreau === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson === yofel_ is now known as yofel === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro === seb128_ is now known as seb128 [18:44] ricotz, the default gnome 3 font doesn't seem to be available here. is it on your system? [18:45] cantarell [18:47] bjsnider, no it isnt available, i just customized them [19:21] bryceh: can I expect an upload of intel driver 2.15.0 soon in X-Updates PPA?? [19:21] anyone else? [19:35] EagleScreen, perhaps, if someone has some freetime to do it, although with the release people are pretty busy [19:35] EagleScreen, would you be interested in joining the xorg-edgers team to help do updates? [19:36] i am a beginer packager === kklimonda1 is now known as kklimonda === kklimonda is now known as Guest52186 === Guest52186 is now known as kklimonda` [19:38] but if you think I can help.. i'd join [19:39] EagleScreen, that's probably fine - there are scripts you run to generate the packages, so it doesn't require a heavy amount of packaging know-how (except when you need to troubleshoot problems, which others can help with anyway) [19:39] let me dig up some additional info for you to look at [19:41] EagleScreen, on https://launchpad.net/~xorg-edgers scroll down to "Contributors to xorg-edgers be welcome" and read that section [19:42] it shows where you can get the script, and how to run it to get a new upstream snapshot of a video driver [19:42] EagleScreen, give that a try and see if you can make a 2.15.0 snapshot driver for yourself [19:47] ok [19:48] but i was thinking in make stable 2.15.0 not a git snapshot [19:50] i was playing with debian unstable (KDE) and i have seen that desktop effects works pretty well with my intel card, then i thougth it was by the 2.15.0 driver newer than 2.14 in Kubuntu natty, but now i see that debian esting with 2.14.0 also have good desktop effects [19:51] in natty ther are very slow and KDE disable them [19:52] so it must be another thing more than the 2.15.0 [20:04] EagleScreen, ok well one of us will eventually get 2.15.0 into x-updates once some of the more pressing issues are taken care of [20:05] actually with the release out now it's probably a good time to refresh x-updates. [20:06] yes, but 2.15.0 may not fix the desktop effects issue since they work in Debian under 2.14.0 [20:06] the difference must be in another X package, may be some library [20:07] it's not in there yet because of libdrm, the nvidia package will depend on the newer libdrm (even though it doesn't use it) and a lot of people just install the nvidia deb from that PPA which will screw up things [20:07] kde effects being slow would be mesa [20:08] heya Sarvatt [20:08] more than likely I bet you're seeing that blur is disabled automatically in debian, but its getting enabled in ubuntu which is leading to the disable effects fallback [20:09] heyo bryceh! [20:09] both natty and Debian have 7.10.2 [20:10] yeah but debian does not revert the commit that breaks direct rendering in KDE in their mesa [20:10] (which means no blur automatically on intel) [20:12] then, direct rendering is broken now in Debian testing? how do I check it? [20:13] i'm not familiar with KDE to answer that, I think there's a lot that tells you if direct rendering is enabled? let me dig up the bug reports [20:13] log rather [20:14] EagleScreen: ~/.xsession-errors [20:14] on debian it will say [20:14] ricotz, the problem ryan paul complained about in his review of gnome 3, where there's too much white space everywhere is due to the cantarell font. i just installed and tested it. the ubuntu font looks better from the standpoint of whitespace. [20:14] Direct rendering: no [20:14] Requires strict binding: yes [20:14] GLSL shaders: no [20:14] and on natty it will say [20:14] Direct rendering: yes [20:14] Requires strict binding: yes [20:14] GLSL shaders: yes [20:15] looks like cantarell adds a lot of padding on the top of the letters [20:17] i dont see that lines in the file [20:17] EagleScreen: run kwin manually maybe? should be in the terminal output when you run it [20:21] alternatively, just disable blur and lanczos in kwin to stop the fallbacks [20:21] i still dont see it, neither on terminal [20:21] i dont know what blur is [20:21] and how to disable it [20:23] I dont know how to disable it in KDE either, was under the impression there was an option in the GUI to do it though. anyone else here know? [22:33] quite a lot of interesting linaro sessions this time around