[00:35] <digitech> hello, I booted my ubuntu 11.04 machine today and my unity bar is gone? how do i get it back
[02:29] <digitech> when will 11.04 be released like midnight?
[02:32] <digitech> anyone?
[02:32] <zenrox> 1:00 utc
[02:32] <digitech> thanks
[02:35] <digitech> technically it should be available already
[02:35] <digitech> ?
[02:35] <digitech> right>?
[02:36] <zenrox> http://release-blog.ubuntu.com/ <--this is what you need to be watching
[02:36] <zenrox> or go to #ubuntu-release-party
[02:37] <digitech> well u said 1:00 utc and right now it is 1:37 utc
[02:37] <zenrox> that is when it is usualy out unless your in aussie land
[02:37] <zenrox> witch is 18+hrs lator
[02:38] <digitech> well.....wtf lol
[02:38] <digitech> im in chicago but i know utc time
[02:38] <digitech> and i did a time conversion
[02:38] <digitech> it should already be released
[02:38] <zenrox> i am in washington state i am in pst
[02:39] <digitech> central here
[02:39] <zenrox> hmm
[02:39] <zenrox> just have to wate pacently
[02:40] <zenrox> i am hanging out at the aformentiond channel and playing with the bot thare
[02:40] <zenrox> quite a good distraction
[02:55] <FTMichael> What time of day do releases tend to come out? I never remember, but I remember I can never get them first thing in the morning like I want to.
[02:55]  * FTMichael scrolls up
[02:56] <FTMichael> Sorry, didn't realise that was just discussed :P
[02:57] <zenrox> naw its ok
[02:57]  * FTMichael likes shiny releases.
[03:16] <mar7ar> hi everybody
[03:16] <zenrox> hello
[03:17] <mar7ar> i have a big problem
[03:17] <zenrox> shure ask away
[03:18] <mar7ar> i`have typed by error apt-get remove libusb*
[03:18] <mar7ar> then every thing is gone
[03:19] <zenrox> then type sudo apt-get install libusb*
[03:19] <zenrox> or do sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:19] <zenrox> last one is better
[03:20] <mar7ar> the problem is that all dependant drivers are gone
[03:20] <mar7ar> even cd driver
[03:21] <zenrox> ubuntu-desktop is a package that will get all the packages you had when you first got it installed
[03:22] <mar7ar> but could this result to loosing my other installed package
[03:22] <mar7ar> ?
[03:23] <zenrox> posabley
[03:23] <mar7ar> ah i`have forgotten to mention it
[03:24] <mar7ar> internet driver is ruined
[03:24] <mar7ar> deleted
[03:24] <zenrox> then time to reinstall
[03:25] <mar7ar> there is also a command called apt-cdrom that add the cd package to sourcelist
[03:26] <zenrox> ya you can do that you could just reinstall on top with out formating the drives
[03:27] <mar7ar> but how
[03:27] <zenrox> crap i dont rember how
[03:27] <zenrox> but you could ask in #ubuntu
[03:28] <mar7ar> logically it must have such solution
[03:28] <mar7ar> like in windows
[03:30] <zenrox> yep
[03:30] <zenrox> it does
[03:30] <zenrox> i just dont rember it
[03:32] <mar7ar> thx
[03:33] <zenrox> n/p
[03:35] <mar7ar> by the way how could someone dill with this big number of users in ubuntu channel
[03:35] <zenrox> dill?
[03:35] <mar7ar> there are over 1500 users
[03:35] <mar7ar> deal
[03:36] <zenrox> ya that is normal if some one says thay can help you tell them to msg you  so you can have a 1 on 1 so to speek
[03:36] <mar7ar> i mean
[03:36] <mar7ar> ok
[03:37] <mar7ar> i got it
[03:37] <mar7ar> thnx one more time
[14:25] <FTMichael> Anyone updated by running update-manager -d and definitely got the final release, not the beta?
[14:26] <Pici> FTMichael: oneiric isn't available anywhere yet, so you should still get natty.
[14:26] <FTMichael> :P I meant Natty
[14:26] <Pici> Well the -d switch is for upgrading to the development release.
[14:27] <FTMichael> But just running update-manager doesn't tell me Natty's available
[14:27] <Pici> Make sure that you don't have it set to notify you for LTS releases only.
[14:27] <FTMichael> Just retried - it's there now. :)
[15:56] <tim__> hiya! anyone who could point me in a good direction to solve the trackpad problem with an hp mini 210? can't use two fingers due to jumpy pointer (aka no selecting anything with trackpad, no dragging, no fun)
[15:56] <tim__> using google is just too confusing with this, ive tried synaptics and all that but still no good solution found
[15:58] <zenrox> search ubuntuforums.org
[16:02] <tim__> done that, there's a few solutions on there but nothing seems to work. and now with 11.04 most issues have been dealth with except for that one, so i thought maybe new solutions would've popped up already.
[16:04] <tim__> will look further, thanks though
[18:22] <FTMichael> Unity question - my messaging menu doesn't have anything in it but 'Mail' (Evolution) and Ubuntu One. I want to add Pidgin but can't figure out how.
[18:25] <zenrox> FTMichael, install pidgin
[18:25] <FTMichael> I already have Pidgin.
[18:25] <zenrox> or make shure you have some of the other addons for pidgin
[18:26] <FTMichael> Which addon do I need to make it work? :P
[18:26] <zenrox> let me look
[18:27] <zenrox> did it install pidgin-libnotify
[18:27] <FTMichael> It certainly should have done. I've had Pidgin for ages. Let me look
[18:27] <FTMichael> wtf, no, libnotify isn't there. one sec
[18:28] <FTMichael> installed. Should I restart Pidgin? Restart Unity?
[18:28] <zenrox> restart pidgin 
[18:28] <FTMichael> right-o
[18:29] <zenrox> so??
[18:29] <FTMichael> Nope.
[18:29] <zenrox> ok just log out log back it
[18:29] <zenrox> in
[18:30] <FTMichael> okay
[18:30] <zenrox> that might fix it cause its listed in mine
[18:31] <FTMichael> nope.
[18:31] <zenrox> hmm
[18:31] <FTMichael> now it has Mail, Compose New Message, and Contacts.
[18:31] <zenrox> it is listed in mime bolth in unity and xubuntu
[18:31] <FTMichael> all of which are Evolution
[18:32] <zenrox> i even have xchat listed thare
[18:32] <FTMichael> :-/
[18:34] <FTMichael> Got Gmail Notifier to show up there, which is something
[18:35] <zenrox> i have gwibber (listed as brodcast)
[18:35] <zenrox> and the evo crap
[18:36] <FTMichael> I don't have Gwibber installed which I presume is why it's not listed there either
[18:38] <zenrox> welp i am outie gota take the wife to her school
[18:39] <FTMichael> have fun
[18:39] <FTMichael> thanks for the help
[19:17]  * darkmatter stuffs a used sock in zenrox mouth :O
[20:07]  * zenrox grabes darkmatter's neck and farts close to his nose
[22:20] <mmiller235> Does anyone know why the ubuntu theme engine crashes whenever gnome OR unity runs in virtualbox?
[22:48] <Joeb454> mmiller235: probably the virtualbox graphics drivers, at a guess
[22:48] <Joeb454> more than that I'd have no idea
[22:50] <mmiller235> Joeb454 okay I disabled those and it sort of works except that the drop shadows are all blotchy
[22:50] <mmiller235> also all audio is running at double speed
[22:50] <Joeb454> mmiller235: not sure about the audio, but this might help for your graphics
[22:50] <Joeb454> http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/
[22:53] <mmiller235> Joeb454 would you happen to know how to uninstall the regular guest additions
[22:53] <mmiller235> Joeb454 apparently according to that link you gave me, the regular guest additions suck and fail at life
[22:54] <Joeb454> I would not have the faintest of ideas, unless they are removable via apt, sorry
[22:56] <mmiller235> Joeb454 are the ose additions available in apt?
[22:59] <Joeb454> mmiller235: try running apt-cache search virtualbox-ose
[23:00] <mmiller235> found it
[23:09] <mmiller235> Joeb454 okay, I tried what that article said and the only difference is, now the theme engine is craashing on a system running the open source edition guest additions
[23:09] <Joeb454> >.< Sorry mmiller235, that's the only guess I could take at why it might not be working
[23:09] <mmiller235> i know, thanks for trying
[23:10] <mmiller235> what really pisses me off is, ubuntu has NEVER worked in virtualbox for me
[23:10] <Joeb454> it's worked for me plenty of times, but I never need to run compiz in a virtual machine, so maybe that's why
[23:10] <Joeb454> compiz is required to run Unity, which makes it more difficult for VM's
[23:10] <mmiller235> Joeb454 it happens even when I disable all the 3d effects
[23:10] <mmiller235> it happens in gnome classic as well
[23:10] <Joeb454> yeah ok, that is odd
[23:10] <Joeb454> not sure why that would be
[23:11] <mmiller235> no matter what, as soon as either gnome or unity launches, it switches to "ugly" mode within a minute 
[23:13] <mmiller235> I give up
[23:14] <mmiller235> virtualbox is hopeless
[23:14] <mmiller235> it used to be good back when innotek owned the project
[23:15] <Joeb454> I only really use it to host server versions of ubuntu for development, so it's not too bad for me
[23:16] <Joeb454> I agree though, it does frustrate me a lot when I'm trying to use it with a desktop version
[23:16] <mmiller235> I could understand if it didn't work with the 3d stuff, but it isn't even working properly with the 2d stuff
[23:16] <mmiller235> its become a complete joke
[23:17] <mmiller235> the problem is, Parallels (which DOES support 3D in ubuntu guests) won't have support for 11.04 for a few months