=== frederickjh is now known as frederickjh_away [14:26] hello - all === Spyder99 is now known as Veloce06 [18:43] Hello. [18:44] keantoken: o/ [18:46] My OS wants to upgrade to Narwhal, will this break anything in Ubuntustudio? Or cause other awful annoyances? [18:46] your OS? [18:46] keantoken: dont let it push you around [18:46] what do you want to do? [18:46] * holstein is still running 10.04 [18:47] you should do what makes you comfortable [18:47] is there any known issues? [18:47] you should be fine* [18:47] would i? [18:47] no [18:47] but, ugrading still takes longer that a fresh install [18:47] so, i sometimes do it to test the procedure [18:48] but, i almost always do a fresh install [18:48] Ok thanks. [18:49] Would it be slower and more bloated? [18:49] nah [18:49] maybe faster? [18:49] really depends [18:49] but, barring some driver issue with a newer kernel [18:49] it wont get slower [18:50] Alright. [18:53] I think Flash is causing strange problems with my graphics. [18:53] Firefox keeps telling me it crashed. [18:53] i dont do flash on my production machine [18:53] BUT [18:53] it should be stable [18:53] keantoken: you using FF4? [18:53] and you have flash up to date? [18:54] I have FF 3.6 [18:54] To my knowledge it updates automatically as I have seen it do, but I will check [18:54] keantoken: i added a PPA for ff [18:55] https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/firefox-stable [18:55] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable [18:55] sudo apt-get update [18:55] sudo apt-get upgrade [18:56] Why should I get FF4? [18:57] you dont have to [18:57] if you're having flash issues with ff [18:57] i would suggest upgrading or downgrading FF and/or flash [18:58] to try and figure out the cause [18:58] +, FF4 is just better [18:58] no reason not to have FF4 [18:58] unless you just dont want to [18:58] which is fine [18:59] I assumed FF3 would upgrade itself to FF4 when it was ready. [19:00] keantoken: no [19:00] thats not the way it works [19:00] you get ubuntu [19:00] say, verion 10.10 [19:00] and FF is at the 3.0 stage [19:00] SO [19:00] you get that verion upgraded [19:01] if there is a rev to 3.x [19:01] OR [19:01] a security fix [19:01] to jump to a newer version [19:01] you need to build yourself [19:01] OR use a PPA [19:01] ff4 has been out for a month or so? [19:01] something like that [19:03] I just discovered Swiftfox, but it looks like it is based on Firefox 3 source code. If I built FF4 on my system would I effectively get a Swiftfox version of FF4? [19:03] Optimized to me processor etc? [19:04] ff4 is fast again [19:04] i would just try it [19:04] and see if its still an issue [19:05] I guess I should try to fix flash before installing new things... [19:05] well, i would check that flash is up to date [19:05] then [19:05] try flash in other browsers [19:05] sudo apt-get install chromium-browser [19:05] for example [19:05] or midori [19:05] see if you can isolate what the issue is [19:06] im just postulating its FF3 [19:06] since, i dont have flash issues [19:08] Thanks, will do now.