[13:25] Xubuntu 11.04 is officially released! Thanks to everybody for the hard work making this a great release! [13:37] Well, we didn't get the news release done though. Anyone? === ChanServ changed the topic of #xubuntu-devel to: Xubuntu Development | Want to get involved? See: http://xubuntu.org/contribute | #xubuntu for support, #xubuntu-offtopic for general discussion | Schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | Wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu [18:12] hi all, anyone successfully upgraded from maverick to natty today? [18:13] i get "can not mark 'xubuntu-desktop' for upgrade" every time i try [18:16] charlie-tca: I think vinnl usually handles posting, but if you or someone wants to draft something up I can post it too [18:28] beardygnome: do you have ubuntu-desktop installed? [18:29] micahg: no, i don't have any other -desktop package installed [18:29] beardygnome: can you look in /var/log/dist-upgrade to see what's failing? [18:30] charlie thinks that my encrypted home directory might be the issue [18:30] micahg: which file should i look in? [18:30] apt.log maybe? [18:32] lots of broken packages listed in there [18:32] What is the first broken package? [18:33] Broken libwebkit-1.0-2:i386 Depends on libwebkit-1.0-common [ i386 ] < 1.2.7-1~mmwkt1 > ( libs ) (>= 1.2.7) [18:33] Considering libwebkit-1.0-common:i386 1 as a solution to libwebkit-1.0-2:i386 5 [18:33] Added libwebkit-1.0-common:i386 to the remove list [18:33] Fixing libwebkit-1.0-2:i386 via keep of libwebkit-1.0-common:i386 [18:34] beardygnome: ah, it's one of your PPAs [18:35] i have the chromium-daily ppa enabled, i think that's where libwebkit comes from [18:35] orly? that shouldn't be there [18:35] should i remove all ppas and roll back the packages? [18:36] beardygnome: chromium has its own internal webkit [18:37] i also have the yorba shotwell ppa [18:37] apt-cache policy libwebkit-1.0-common should tell you which PPA it is [18:38] it's from my MiserWare Granola ppa [18:38] man I have so much stuff installed that i'd forgotten about! [18:38] should i disable the ppa and install the software? [18:39] beardygnome: you could run ppa-purge on it if you don't care about it [18:39] i do care about keeping it after the upgrade [18:40] beardygnome: I think it just downgrades the packages from the PPA and comments out the source line [18:40] the package also comes from the webkit-team ppa [18:41] which i thought i needed to install chromium [18:41] i'll try to downgrade it and disable the ppa [18:41] nope, chromium is self contained [19:06] beardygnome: Mondays at 19:00 UTC for meetings? [19:20] charlie-tca, Hey. Do you need me to help update the Xubuntu website? [19:21] It doesn't appear to be updated for the release. [19:22] yes, please [19:22] it hasn't been updated yet, as far as I know [19:22] has anyone prepared anything? [19:22] nope [19:23] I got hit hard by an episode, and got behind [19:24] Okay. Just got a notice from IS. They're setting up caching in front of Xubuntu.org so authenticated pages aren't going to be available until they get an ssl pathway setup. [19:24] ie. I can't update content until after they're done with that. [19:24] charlie-tca, While we're waiting, who can help create the content? [19:24] Ohj, goody [19:25] me, I guess [19:25] Do we have release notes? [19:25] I used the ubuntu release notes this time, I have two sections for Xubuntu, one general and one for bugs [19:26] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes [19:26] So the things we need to update on the website I guess are: [19:26] * News entry for release [19:26] * Download page [19:26] We replaced exaile with gmusicbrowser, upgraded Xfce to 4.8 [19:26] yes, please [19:26] * Tour page [19:27] and last but not least, [19:27] Did a lot of bug fixes with 4.8 [19:27] * Front page [19:27] we have plans to update all the screenshots and things in the coming weeks [19:27] (there are also updates elsewhere that need to be done) [19:27] * pleia2 needs to finish thorough review of site for lingering issues [19:27] Maybe just try to get the news release and download page? [19:28] yeah [19:28] News, Download, and Frontpage are the only mandatory bits yea [19:28] (front page because it says 'Xubuntu 10.10 is now available!') [19:28] Yeah. [19:28] but we can't do anything yet? [19:29] Correct. IS tells me it'll be an hour or two [19:29] Okay, that will have to work then [19:30] I couldn't believe it when I woke up at 6am and it was already out [19:32] Thank you for doing that, cody-somerville [19:34] ugh [19:34] * cody-somerville_ is without power and my modem keeps resetting (I assume its going into power saving mode and only keeping the telephony stuff up). [19:35] cody-somerville_, will the IS set up staging.xubuntu.org for us at the same time? their last "we promise" date was 6 days ago [19:36] going to be a long day again... [19:37] isn't it always? [19:38] Do we have an equivalent of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/MaverickMeerkat/Final for the natty release? === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [19:39] knome, I have no idea about that. I can look into it sometime for you though. [19:39] cody-somerville, unless you can do it yourself, don't worry. somebody is already on it, i'm just wondering which one of their ETA's will keep [19:40] cody-somerville: no, I did not have time to do it [19:40] and my brain is about dead after testing images for so manyh d [19:40] many days this time [19:43] Okay, so I've whipped up http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/600393/ for the news article - largely just took the content of Maverick's release announcement and filled in the blanks. [19:43] "Get it while it's hot" is nice, but not one month from now [19:43] maybe we should reconsider the wording [19:44] Looks wonderful to me [19:44] it's always hot [19:45] If they haven't gotten it, it is HOT for them to get it [19:45] hah [19:45] then 6.04 is hot as well;) [19:45] it is [19:48] If you are reading old news announcements, why would you expect them to apply today? [19:48] news articles are dated [19:48] The announcement is not meant to cover months/years, but the day it is published [19:49] knome: you mean 6.06 and that's a different type of hot :) [19:50] That's so hot it is EOL [19:50] but if you go back and read the original announcement, ... (: [19:51] well, 6.06 server has 1 more month [19:51] That doesn't apply to Xubuntu [19:51] We are a desktop environment only [19:52] I would even be willing to bet the links in that announcement are no longer working [19:52] but that doesn't mean we won't publish links in our announcements in the future === cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville [20:55] charlie-tca, maybe better to let go [20:56] He was very rude in #ubuntu+1, also [20:57] if you think he is violating the CoC, point him to it and give a warning. usually that just leads to more bad behaviour though... he's been okay at #xubuntu so far, tbh [20:59] knome: thank you. You are right this time. I will not respond to him again [21:00] I really need to get off line. I can't hardly see for being sick [21:01] okay, try to get better and get a good rest [21:01] we'll keep the channel civil :) [21:01] Haven't been able to sleep in 48 hours now [21:02] doesn't sound so good [21:02] doesn't feel so good either. but we do our best anyway [21:03] exactly