[03:23] Hello channel. [03:24] Hello [03:24] Can any one tell me how to get sound working on my Xubuntu system? [03:25] joseph_AJ: well, whats your sound device? if you don't know, type "lspci" no qoutes in a terminal, and find your audio device [03:28] That command shows that I have an nVidia Corporation CK804 AC'97 Audio Controller (rev a2) [03:28] installed but I am using a Creative Labs SB Live card. [03:28] I have both cards in the comb [03:28] joseph_AJ, are you using the ac97 [03:29] how do I check that? [03:29] lsmod [03:29] and see if the module for ac97 and/or sb live are loaded [03:31] Here is the output of that command: Module Size Used by [03:31] snd_emu10k1_synth 5136 0 [03:31] snd_emux_synth 29012 1 snd_emu10k1_synth [03:31] snd_seq_virmidi 4193 1 snd_emux_synth [03:31] snd_seq_midi_emul 5547 1 snd_emux_synth [03:31] snd_emu10k1 131818 5 snd_emu10k1_synth [03:31] snd_intel8x0 25664 4 [03:31] snd_usb_audio 86480 3 [03:31] snd_ac97_codec 99227 2 snd_emu10k1,snd_intel8x0 [03:31] ac97_bus 1014 1 snd_ac97_codec [03:31] snd_pcm 71475 4 snd_emu10k1,snd_intel8x0,snd_usb_audio,snd_ac97_codec [03:31] snd_usbmidi_lib 17413 1 snd_usb_audio [03:31] snd_util_mem 3118 2 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1 [03:31] snd_hwdep 5040 3 snd_emux_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_usb_audio [03:31] snd_seq_midi 4588 0 [03:31] snd_rawmidi 17783 4 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_seq_midi [03:31] snd_seq_midi_event 6047 2 snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi [03:31] .. you gotta be kidding me? [03:31] snd_seq 47174 5 snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_seq_midi_emul,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event [03:31] snd_timer 19067 3 snd_emu10k1,snd_pcm,snd_seq [03:31] radeon 829223 2 [03:31] snd_seq_device 5744 5 snd_emu10k1_synth,snd_emu10k1,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq [03:31] * KM0201 sighs [03:31] snd 49038 35 snd_emux_synth,snd_seq_virmidi,snd_emu10k1,snd_intel8x0,snd_usb_audio,snd_ac97_codec,snd_usbmidi_lib,snd_pcm,snd_hwdep,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device [03:31] ttm 56633 1 radeon [03:31] drm_kms_helper 30200 1 radeon [03:31] soundcore 880 1 snd [03:31] drm 168060 4 radeon,ttm,drm_kms_helper [03:31] i2c_nforce2 5179 0 [03:31] agpgart 32011 2 ttm,drm [03:31] i2c_algo_bit 5168 1 radeon [03:32] !pastebin | joseph_AJ [03:32] joseph_AJ: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [03:32] psmouse 59033 0 [03:32] gspca_sonixj 25900 0 [03:32] gspca_main 23644 1 gspca_sonixj [03:32] k8temp 3228 0 [03:32] videodev 43098 1 gspca_main [03:32] v4l1_compat 13359 1 videodev [03:32] snd_page_alloc 7120 3 snd_emu10k1,snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm [03:32] ok snd_emu10k1 = live and ac97 is for ac'97 [03:32] serio_raw 4022 0 [03:32] emu10k1_gp [03:32] Sorry, I am new to this. :o( [03:32] so it is loading the drivers for bolth [03:32] joseph_AJ: you're new at this?.. you didn't think "hey, this outputted 100 lines, what should i tell you" rather than posting the whole thing here? [03:33] also to joseph_AJ if you dont have any thang connected to the ac97 you should disable it in the bios of your pc to force it to use the sb live [03:34] cause i assume the ac97 is the built in card [03:34] You're right. My apologies, I am used to the Forums.....I guess I just assumed something that I shouldn't have. [03:34] joseph_AJ, we are all allowed one mistake [03:34] lol [03:35] :o( I promise to control myself in the future. :o) [03:36] its ok joseph_AJ [03:37] Good advise zenrox. I didn't even think about using the BIOS to control my sound devices. [03:37] your welcome [03:38] I know how to use M$ Windows but I am a noob at Linux and so I am still learning even the most basic uses of this OS [03:39] joseph_AJ, we were all thare at one time or another [03:40] Thank you all for your help. I will try using the BIOS to disable the second audio card. I suspect that will solve this problem. Thank you again. [03:41] n/p [03:41] good luck [03:52] how can i tell what video ram is shared to my video card [03:52] i have a intel gma i915 running xubuntu 10.10 [03:54] in window it can share up to 128 [03:54] i want to see if ubuntu can too [03:55] ubuntu can too i think your xorg.conf file should have it listed [03:55] how much it can use [04:00] thinking of putting windows to the curb side for now or till ssd comes down or i get a docking station [04:01] i have a x41 [04:01] the harddrive is rare [04:02] 1.8 inch ide [04:02] but the docking station has a option to add another drive [04:04] only thin i use windows for is when i need internet at my xbox 360 use my laptop as a bridge [04:04] and you can set up linux to do that too [04:05] it easy for windows to do it not so easy on linux [04:05] but it is posable [04:07] i wish someone would build it in nm-applet or wicd [04:07] agreed [04:07] that could be a good feature request you can put up on launchpad.net [04:07] for ubuntu [04:10] my laptop is fine for what i use it for its just for travel few low end game ill alway have window on my desktop [04:10] i can play highend games on mine [04:10] hp g60-249wm [04:11] os[Linux 2.6.38-8-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "natty" 11.04] cpu[2 x AMD Athlon Dual-Core QL-62 (AuthenticAMD) @ 2.00GHz] mem[Physical: 2.7GB, 70.9% free] disk[Total: 229.2GB, 76.9% free] video[nVidia Corporation C77 [GeForce 8200M G]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia] [04:11] not to shabbly for a 2 year old lappy [04:12] my desktop is a ga-ma78lm-s2h with a amd x2 be-2400 [04:13] a geforce 330 gl [04:13] with 1024 of ram [04:13] 2 gb of ram [04:14] that low of ram on a decktop [04:14] i have 3 gigs in my lappy [04:14] my laptop is only 1.5 [04:15] im slowly building up my desktop [04:15] i went for better video card over ram [04:16] i got ride of my franken pc 2 years ago once i got this [04:16] i dont think i upgrading to 11 [04:17] on my lappy [04:17] What's the general consensus on Xubuntu 11.04 thus far? [04:17] likemindead: i like it.. [04:17] :0 [04:17] 11.04 is sweet! [04:17] Well worth the money spent [04:18] I'm excited. Tried it back at Alpha 3, but some updates hardcore b0rked that install. :-\ [04:18] xubuntu 11.04 is perfect [04:18] Plan to install it tomorrow on my laptop & regular Ubuntu 11.04 on my wife's. [04:18] I had/have a bad update... [04:18] i have it installed on my wifes allready too [04:19] wanted to beat the rush on the servers [04:19] I've been using Linux Mint 10 for the last few weeks. Good, but I miss Xfce in general & Xubuntu in particular. [04:19] well good for my desktop not so good for my thinkpad x41 [04:19] I'm rocking a five-year-old Lenovo 300 N1000. [04:20] 2 year old hp g60 [04:20] Yeah, this laptop is "old" but man, it does everything I need it to & does it very well. :D [04:20] likemindead: Do you think Xubuntu runs faster then Mint? [04:20] i hear there a problems with intel i915 and 11.04 [04:20] not saing old is good [04:21] I can't really tell a difference, Unit193. [04:21] Hrm... It just didn't feel as fast to me... [04:21] uofm49426: i'vfe got a 965.. seems to work fine... it worked fine w/ Ubuntu.. its just th eeffects, etc.. drug down the rest of my laptop.. xubuntu was a great compromise. [04:23] i use to have a acer 5515 then ati stopped putting updates out [04:23] and the open driver sucked [04:23] uofm49426: i've got an acer 5315.. :) runs rather swimmingly w/ Ubuntu [04:23] its actually what i'm on now [04:24] that is why i will allways get a pc with an nvidia [04:24] ati sucks with drivers for linux [04:25] well my desktop has a onboard ati hd 3000 [04:25] replaced with nv geforce 330 gl [04:26] i ant saying ati cards suck i am just saying ati does not support there drivers very well in the linux/oss sceine [04:26] and nvidia seems to do a better job [04:26] best 50 dollar upgrade i ever spent [04:26] zenrox: i agree... when i buy laptops/build my desktops. [04:27] i always get nvidia.. this laptop was an exception, but the intel chipset has been fine (not really a gamer.. but fine for sitting around surfing) [04:27] ill take my x41 over a 5515 any day [04:27] see i game on my lappy [04:27] i needed the nvidia card a nv 8200m [04:27] zenrox: i just play lbreakout i love that game. [04:27] olol [04:27] i play second life [04:27] Gaming for me equals NES, SNES, & Playstation emulation. ^__^ [04:28] see i am a retro gammer too [04:28] love all the oldies [04:28] zelda in the gold cartige for nes [04:28] in ubuntu a x1200 run like crap compared to i915 [04:29] why cant open make better drivers [04:30] not enuf money and hardware to test [04:30] old ati i mean [04:31] i was thinking maybe they would make better drivers then amd [04:31] but thay dint have all the old hardware specs [04:31] or the psyical hardware [04:31] that is the limitaion in linux period [04:33] intel graphics always get a bad rap but so fare the open drivers are great [04:33] early intel drivers like i810 suckd [04:33] i9XX have bine better [04:35] if i decide to get ride of windows for no how can i do it with out reinstalling [04:37] use gparted delete the windows partion and expand the linux one [04:38] would you boot from cd well doing this [04:38] i would [04:38] uofm49426: not sure how familiar you are w/ ubuntu/linux.. but if not "very" familiar, i'd recommend having some access to windows, for at least 6mo.. either another machine, or dual booting.. cuz if you don't, you'll be reinstalling by the end of the week when you run into a problem [04:39] a friend of mine goes through this every ubuntu release. [04:39] he downloads it.. thinks its awesome, nukes windows.. and literally, wthin a week, he's found some insurmountable problem (that he never asks for help about)... and is reinstalling Windows. [04:39] KM0201, i did for ahile when i first started then i lernt how to fix it using irc and ubuntuforums.org [04:40] i have tried to tell him so many times, to dual boot for 6mo, whether he only boots windows once a month or not.. before he removes windows.. but he never listens.. he actually IM'd me tonight said he was installing 11.04 and nuking windows(never learns)... [04:40] i'm glad he's in japan, so he can't come over and ask me for help [04:40] omg [04:40] some ppl just never learn [04:40] im just thinking hard drive is just to small for them both [04:40] and you cant teach them [04:41] how big [04:41] is it [04:42] is there a hard drive protection software in ubuntu [04:43] under windows thinkpad has a program that can protect harddrive from shock [04:43] zenrox: i've tried telling him a gazillion times, and like i said.. he's installing as we speak(or at least as of an hour ago)... and i bet you by saturday, he's reinstalling windows === IdleOne is now known as Narwhal [04:44] uofm49426: Yes there is [04:44] KM0201, tipical [04:44] unfortunately... you can lead a horse to water.. [04:44] what is it called [04:44] hdapsd (I think) [04:44] KM0201, yep [04:45] and km0201 my desktop is dual boot vista and xubuntu [04:46] uofm49426: see, thats fine... [04:46] uofm49426: but this guy, he has one machine.. [04:46] like i said, i guarantee you, by saturday.. he'll be reinstalling 7. [04:46] my laptop i just a 40 gb hd [04:46] go flat out xubuntu [04:47] specaly since you have another pc [04:47] uofm49426: checkout tpb and pidgin-blinklight if you use pidgin. You use Vista?? [04:49] how do i use remote desktop and vista [04:50] i haven't used xubuntu for a long time... but my old laptop was just struggling to keep up w/ all the flash and pizzaz of 11.04 and Gnome/Unity.. was gonna install lubuntu, but decided on Xubuntu.. happy i did. [04:50] search for taht on ubuntuforums.org [04:50] youll get a better or a howto [04:50] uofm49426: Using RDP or VNC? [04:51] from xubuntu [04:51] rdp [04:51] eather [04:51] Are you OK with launchpad PPAs? [04:52] the computers are on a basic wireless network [04:53] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:llyzs/ppa && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install freerdp-x11 [04:54] i try to do it 2 days ago without luck' [04:54] * Unit193 uses RDP in linux when he needs it [04:55] Unit193: i installed linux on several friends computers (out of state) w/ Teamviewer...lol. it's easy for me, cuz they aren't techies, adn don't know how to open ports, etc [04:56] KM0201: Wubi? [04:56] Unit193: oh heck no. [04:56] i partition the drive and everything.. i have them install teamviewer on the live cd..lol [04:56] i wouldn't put Wubi on my worst enemies computer [04:57] Ah! I didn't know how you would do it other then that... [04:57] * Unit193 has never used it [04:57] Unit193: very simple app [04:58] you start it.. it gives you a username and password... you give the remote person that username and passcode... whamo, your'e on their PC. [04:58] no if there was a program other then vm were you could install windows in a ex4 [04:58] no port forwarding, no running a vnc server, no command line, very very easy [04:58] that would be cool [04:58] I don't like TeamViewer as much.... [04:58] xfreerdp -u $USER -f -x l -z $IP/HOSTNAME <--- if you want to use FreeRDP [04:58] and thay have a teamviewer for linux (witch is wine and win ver of teamviewer) [04:59] Unit193: i don't either, ut when its 1. use teamviewer or 2. rip hair out trying to explain port forwarding., 2a, gouge out eyeballs explaining setting up vnc server 2b, ram spikes into ears explaining how to set up vnc server... .. i'll just show them how to use teamviewer..lol [04:59] wubi install window in a linux partion [05:00] that would be cool [05:00] * KM0201 has saw wubi brick windows AND ubuntu way to many times, to ever trust it. [05:00] i dont trust wubi either [05:02] KM0201: It's sadly only for windows, but checkout UVNC SingleClick [05:02] would it be possible to run a vmware drive from grub [05:03] or plossible [05:03] Unit193: meh.. teamviewer works fine for what i need it for, and i don't have to explain anything to them other than "double click that .deb and click install".. :) [05:04] KM0201: Did you take a look at it? [05:04] Unit193: naa.. don't really need to.. does it install on a linux live cd? [05:04] Unit193: and you're still gonna have to deal w/ opening router ports, etc [05:05] I don't think it will run under linux without wine: http://www.uvnc.com/addons/singleclick.html [05:05] KM0201: That's the sweet part, it's a reverse connection [05:05] oh ok. [05:05] eh.. teamviewer works.. and i don't have to tell them how to install wine.. :).. it all gets installed when you install teamviewer [05:06] Yeah, that way is better then using this in wine (But I like the *idea*) [05:10] Unit193: no doubt the idea is awesome.. === KM0201_ is now known as KM0201 [07:00] hello jarnos [07:01] ball, hello === emma is now known as em [08:27] Hi, today i say goobye to xubuntu. [08:27] hi, I upgraded to 11.04 and terminator stopped honoring my preferred browser. they say they delegated the job of choosing browser to "gtk". xdg-open opens chromium as I want, and I also set /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/http{,s}/command and /desktop/gnome/applications/browser/exec with gconftool-2 to use chromium, but it insists in spawning firehog. any idea what else could gtk be looking at to decide what browser to spawn? [08:27] ArisVer: good luck on the new way of life [08:28] mnemoc: I spent a night on that one, it's /usr/share/applications/defaults.list [08:28] TheSheep, thank you. To be more precise, xubuntu said goodbye to me, it made that twice in the last two days. [08:28] TheSheep: thanks! :) [08:31] Goodbye ppl running xubuntu. [08:32] Wonder what that was all about... [08:32] that was weird [08:33] guys, is it possible to integrate thunderbird to mail menu, just as evolution in ubuntu? i'm using 11.4 beta [08:45] mail menu? [08:48] mnemoc: I guess it's the indicator plugin [08:48] mnemoc: new thing in 11.4 [08:50] oh, nice. just added it [08:51] now i have two volume controls :p [08:55] xubuntu 11.04 beta2 crashed for me. will the final release be stable? [08:56] beta2 is stable for me [08:57] maybe your hardware is different [08:57] Besides X seeming to freeze (and I think it's fixed) it is all fine [08:58] yes I always have some problems with X or graphic driver I don;t know. it's eighter freezing or crashing [09:00] jozefk: tried reporting the bug properly? [09:01] !bug [09:01] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots [09:01] not yet. it's beta2. I was thinking about stable release. hope it work better [09:01] jozefk: developers can't fix problems they don't know about [09:02] I see they already know about :) [09:04] good, so there is hope :) [09:05] 11.04 will be release today right? we will see the hope very soon [09:05] :) === thermi is now known as Thermi [09:13] having two displays (LVDS1+VGA1) is there a way yet to have them deal with virtual desktops separated instead of a single very large thing? [09:20] does that kind of multihead has a name? [09:21] twinview? [09:21] do you have an nvidia card? [09:21] intel [09:21] integrated? [09:21] yes, notebook [09:22] well, what you want is twinview-mode [09:23] i thought "twinview" was to see the same on both :) thanks for the keyword, I'll search [09:27] knome: my twinview doesn't work like that [09:28] mine does [09:28] well, it of course needs configuration [09:28] but twinview is what i have [09:28] xfce or xorg config? [09:28] xorg [09:29] if i need more space i'll use some workaround.. === Thermi is now known as thermi === thermi is now known as Thermi [11:27] can anywone sugest me a nice 'start menu' that supports recent apps, search (apps and files) [11:28] are you looking for something like gnome do? [11:28] i gues. [11:28] have you tried that? [11:31] idid ounce but only got it to like like that bar - rather than the start / pannel / menu ... i also tried mintmenu but didn't get that to work with xfce [11:31] there is no panel applet that does what you are trying to achieve, afaik === Thermi is now known as thermi === thermi is now known as Thermi === Thermi is now known as thermi [12:28] does anyone know if xubuntu 11.04 (stable) will be released sometime today? [12:28] any time today UTC. [12:29] knome: thanks [12:29] no problem [12:29] oh well got to go! [12:30] it's deleyed after the main ubuntu right? [12:30] at the same time afaik [12:31] it's parallel, yes [12:31] ubuntu site is updated for 11.04 downloads [12:31] xubuntu is not [12:32] that'll be done once the new version is released and somebody with access right is available [12:32] ok [12:32] so just check the mirrors after annonce [12:33] yes [12:34] might be that some of the mirrors don't have xubuntu right away [12:35] itsoutitsoutitsout lol === buff27 is now known as torrentLink === torrentLink is now known as torrentLink-plea === torrentLink-plea is now known as buff27 [12:37] \o/oot FINALLY! :) [12:43] !isitout [12:43] Not yet! But you can join #ubuntu-release-party and await release with the other excited folks :D [12:43] :P [12:44] its out [12:44] bad bot [12:44] very [12:44] !isitout [12:44] Yes, join #ubuntu-release-party to celebrate! [12:47] cdimage.ubuntu.com only has alternates of xubuntu [12:47] ugh. [12:56] yay desktops [12:56] good [12:56] i'm just upgrading :P [13:08] isen't the 11.04 for xubuntu being released today? [13:08] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/11.04/release/ [13:09] that's final? [13:09] jimmy_: well, ubuntu 11.04 was just released about an hour ago... doesn't lookk like xubuntu.com has beenr eeleased yet [13:09] it will be updated [13:10] updated? with what? and when? [13:10] KM0201, yeah i saw that, just woundering if it was scheduled to be released today or if it was delayed [13:11] i mean website will get up-to-date [13:12] so the xubuntu 11.04 release was uploaded yesterday accoring to the link you provided me with Sysi? Say 2011 Apr 27 [13:12] they've propably been spinned tehn, for testing [13:13] desktop-images just came out moment ago [13:13] jimmy_: its not delayed. [13:13] can we download from your link or not? [13:14] the final stable I mean [13:14] that's what i need [13:14] that is the final release [13:16] thanks [13:19] you can get xubuntu torrents from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/natty/release/ [13:20] note torrent files have todays date.... HTTP is two days old [13:20] What time does the upgrade start? [13:20] you can upgrade already [13:20] Hang on [13:21] already runnin it myself anyway [13:21] Checking package info [13:21] prefer clean installs [13:22] cdimage.ubuntu.com is under some serious pressure... [13:22] is it possible to run update-manager from 10.04 to 11.04? the only update that seems possible that way for me is to 10.10 [13:22] jimmy_, you need to upgrade to 10.10 first, then 11.04 [13:23] thank you knome [13:23] knome, just a tad [13:23] jimmy_, you can only "skip" releases if you are upgrading from lts to lts [13:23] buff27, can't get to download the torrent... [13:23] really! [13:23] well i'm upgrading so it's not necessary [13:24] i got it a bout 20-30min ago [13:24] got it now [13:24] just started trying ;) [13:24] I'm getting 117kbps from cdimage [13:24] that's enough for me :) [13:24] impressive :) [13:24] I like to have the ISO's handy incase I have other systems to install in next 6 months (before 11.10) [13:25] well it's easier to download the iso tomorrow [13:25] ;) [13:26] http://lyseo.edu.ouka.fi/~jeremustonen/xubuntu/ [13:26] torrents === thermi is now known as Thermi [13:26] let's d/l the i386 version as well [13:26] desktop iso just disappeard from cdimage, think i'll just sit tigth until the storm is over [13:27] lol [13:27] seeding torrent hard [13:28] how hard? ;) [13:28] so hard that i'll pass :))) [13:28] true easier.... I happy to let it trickle in overnight while i sleep [13:30] xubuntu.org - The site is currently not available due to technical problems. === jimmy_ is now known as shiwigy [13:30] jimmy_, probably just too heavy load.. [13:31] * buff27 is on the piss..... [13:36] Pici, voulf I pm you? [13:36] *could [13:37] buff27: Uh, sure go ahead. [13:40] ugh? [13:52] is xubuntu 11.04 also released? [13:52] yes, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/11.04/release/ [13:52] yes [13:53] maybe even this http://lyseo.edu.ouka.fi/~jeremustonen/xubuntu/ [13:53] :) [13:53] i am upgrading from 10.10 [13:53] thanks [13:53] hopefully it won't break things :) [13:53] do backup anyway [13:53] :) [13:54] backup? is that some sort of exercise movement? [13:54] lol [13:55] backup is fun with rsync [13:56] great, the new window resize grips === ChanServ changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Xubuntu 11.04 is out! http://xubuntu.org/news/11.04-release Download, Share it, Seed it! Please read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | Offtopic: #xubuntu-offtopic === pteague_work is now known as pteague === buff27 is now known as lol === lol is now known as Buff27 === Buff27 is now known as buff27 [14:00] erm, that link doesn't work [14:00] no, We don t have the news release posted yet === knome changed the topic of #xubuntu to: Official Xubuntu Support Channel | Xubuntu 11.04 is out! Download, Share it, Seed it! Please read the release notes at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/ReleaseNotes | Pastes to http://paste.ubuntu.com | Offtopic: #xubuntu-offtopic [14:01] let's add the link when we do [14:01] Thanks [14:01] thanks [14:01] knome what window resize? [14:01]