[00:10] <Mamarok> apachelogger: I feel honored *bows*
[00:12] <apachelogger> Mamarok: we need a dancing night in randa :D
[00:20] <Mamarok> apachelogger: sounds like a plan :)
[00:20] <Mamarok> markey: ^
[00:20] <markey> plan!
[00:21] <markey> so that will be sandsmark
[00:22] <apachelogger> markey: sandsmark is the night? :O
[05:08] <c2tarun> in ktown there are some versions of application newer than 4.6.3, do we have to pack newer version or 4.6.3 only?
[05:13] <ScottK> 4.6.3 only.
[08:53] <bambee> morning
[09:16] <c2tarun> bambee: hey :)
[09:16] <c2tarun> bambee: you packing kde-workspace?
[09:16] <bambee> hey:)
[09:17] <c2tarun> bambee: you packing kde-workspace?
[09:17] <bambee> No time. I will package it this evening. You can package it if you want :)
[09:18] <c2tarun> bambee: sure I just uploaded kdebindings, if it build there before you returned I'll take it :)
[09:18] <bambee> (I've a lot of work to do today...)
[09:18] <c2tarun> bambee: no prob :)
[09:20] <bambee> c2tarun: don't forget to check symbols and to build with pbuilder before uploading it ;)
[09:20] <c2tarun> bambee: sure :)
[09:35] <bambee> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykwqXuMPsoc  o_O
[09:37] <c2tarun> bambee: nice :)
[09:37] <bambee> hehe
[09:37]  * bambee imagines this video at the previous UDS... lol
[09:41] <c2tarun> debfx: ping
[09:49] <c2tarun> bambee: I just read an update on ninja packaging page to bump the version of kde-sc-dev-latest (this update was not there before), I uploaded few pacakges but didn't bumped there versions. Is there any way to fix them without uploading a new ppa version?
[09:52] <debfx> c2tarun: pong
[09:52] <bambee> I don't think so, launchpad will reject your packages because the same packages with the same version already exist...
[09:52] <c2tarun> bambee: they are accepted, I got the mail.
[09:53] <bambee> I've no ideas
[09:53] <c2tarun> debfx:  I just read an update on ninja packaging page to bump the version of kde-sc-dev-latest (this update was not there before), I uploaded few pacakges but didn't bumped there versions. Is there any way to fix them without uploading a new ppa version?
[09:53] <debfx> c2tarun: no, you need to upload a new version
[09:54] <c2tarun> debfx: ohh... :( anyway I'll upload :) thanks
[09:55] <debfx> yofel: kde4libs symbols file need to be updated: http://paste.kde.org/40087/
[10:12] <yofel> debfx: oops, thanks, I missed that somehow
[10:20] <jussi> there seems to be a distinct lack of kubuntu people going to be at UDS this time :/
[10:31] <apachelogger> jussi: arch is the new kubuntu
[10:32] <jussi> hehe
[10:32] <jussi> apachelogger: are you going ?
[10:32] <apachelogger> to arch?
[10:32] <apachelogger> no
[10:32] <apachelogger> windows 7
[10:33] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/RLTOZ.png
[10:33] <apachelogger> it is the cutez building
[10:34] <jussi> oh lol
[10:35] <jussi> apachelogger: I meant to UDS
[10:35] <apachelogger> ah, yes
[10:35] <apachelogger> also, mingw is apparently so utter shit that their make does not do multiple jobs
[10:35] <apachelogger> how lame is that
[10:36] <jussi> btw, is there a current (natty) replacement for stasks? (ie. to get the icons only in the taskbar)
[10:36] <apachelogger> stasks - the broken concept
[10:37] <apachelogger> jussi: so, why does stasks not work anymore?
[10:38] <jussi> !find stasks
[10:38] <jussi> apachelogger: it doesnt seem to be in the repos anymore? 
[10:38] <yofel> plasma-widget-smooth-tasks ?
[10:38] <jussi> !info plasma-widget-smooth-tasks
[10:38] <jussi> oh bah
[10:38] <jussi> thanks
[10:39] <apachelogger> dubdubdub
[10:39] <apachelogger> jussi: to say it with the words of our mom Debian... RTFM :P
[10:39] <jussi> apachelogger: shssshhhshshshshh :P
[10:39] <yofel> ^^
[10:39]  * apachelogger waves fist
[10:40] <apachelogger> oh goody
[10:40] <apachelogger> I think the youtube royal transmissions are on
[10:40] <lucidfox> smooth-tasks is buggy, though -_-
[10:40] <lucidfox> I couldn't get it to retain launchers
[10:40] <jussi> apachelogger: http://www.celebritysmackblog.com/2011/04/29/royal-wedding-watch-online-ustream-streaming/ ;P
[10:40] <apachelogger> cause it is the shitz
[10:40] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/TheRoyalChannel
[10:41] <apachelogger> when I am getting married I want equally crazy stuff
[10:43]  * apachelogger likes them cars
[10:45] <jussi> apachelogger: you are getting married? :P ;P
[10:46] <apachelogger> sure, why not?
[10:46]  * DarkwingDuck mutters
[10:46] <apachelogger> weddings are awesome
[10:47] <DarkwingDuck> dang wife woke me up for a blasted wedding or something :P:P
[10:47] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: I hope you are watching on the youtubez
[10:47] <apachelogger> with live commentary in textual form
[10:48] <apachelogger> this is actually much bettar than silly television, people are constantly talking shit there
[10:48] <DarkwingDuck> Nope.... I'm more worried about my credit card getting sold from the hack on the playstation network
[10:48] <DarkwingDuck> Oh my apachelogger.... American TV is gushing about it... rather pathedic IMO
[10:48] <apachelogger> owww
[10:49] <apachelogger> everyone is going the crazy
[10:49] <DarkwingDuck> Yeah... wife wakes me up... So I figured this would be a good time to upgrade my perduction desktop to 11.04
[10:49] <DarkwingDuck> *Production
[10:49] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: you should like watch the flipping queen
[10:50] <apachelogger> actually I wonder if she got a face lift at some point, she looks better than her son
[10:50] <DarkwingDuck> flipping queen? :D Never heard it put so.... elegantly
[10:51] <apachelogger> oh oh oh the bride!
[10:51] <apachelogger> zomg
[10:51] <DarkwingDuck> Is she wearing her famous see-through dress from teh uni fasion show??
[10:52] <apachelogger> it is not to be seen clearly
[10:52] <apachelogger> it is a big sekrit it would appear
[10:52] <tsimpson> it's white... and frilly
[10:52] <apachelogger> maybe they should have used a car with tainted windows or something
[10:52] <apachelogger> windows
[10:52]  * apachelogger giggles
[10:53] <DarkwingDuck> BAH If it's not that dress then I'm not bothering watching.
[10:53] <DarkwingDuck> :P:P
[10:53] <apachelogger> zomg she looks the gorgeous
[10:54] <apachelogger> actually she really should be working on that royal waving of hers
[10:54] <jussi> tsimpson: you realise by saying that you just admitted you are watching... :P
[10:55] <apachelogger> I think DarkwingDuck is the only person on planet earthz not watching
[10:55] <tsimpson> jussi: it's on just about every channel, not much choice ;)
[10:55] <jussi> hehe
[10:55] <apachelogger> tsimpson has a point there
[10:55] <tsimpson> plus, who doesn't love a good wedding :)
[10:55] <apachelogger> today when I got up at like 9 I was trying to watch news
[10:55] <apachelogger> no dice
[10:55] <apachelogger> tsimpson: ack ack
[10:55] <DarkwingDuck> prolly
[10:55] <DarkwingDuck> hehehe... I'd be pissed if I had to shell out 20 million pounds of my taxes for a silly wedding
[10:56] <apachelogger> oh, but the advertisement and stuff
[10:56] <jussi> DarkwingDuck: bah, 20 mill between 60 million people is less than a pound a person. plus, count the tourism dollars that come back because of it...
[10:57] <DarkwingDuck> jussi: Not the point :P:P
[10:57] <apachelogger> I think there is also immediate gain from television license fee stuff
[10:57] <DarkwingDuck> Anyway... I'm too much of a socialist to actually care about taxes
[10:57] <apachelogger> so, what I am wondering, why are the streets of london so dirty?
[10:57] <apachelogger> are they always like that?
[10:58] <tsimpson> probably filling in pot-holes or something
[10:58] <apachelogger> lol
[10:58] <DarkwingDuck> I loved the horse crap in teh streets
[10:59] <apachelogger> tsimpson: that might just e the reason
[10:59] <apachelogger> who would have thought
[10:59] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: you attending UDS?
[11:00] <apachelogger> no, I am watching a wedding
[11:00]  * DarkwingDuck thwaps
[11:00] <jussi> got something fun for you all to read (especially europeans) http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fbit.ly%2FmSTLnC&h=ae741
[11:01] <apachelogger> we dont have time for this
[11:02]  * apachelogger notes that diana's dress was superior
[11:02] <apachelogger> oh oh oh
[11:02] <tsimpson> diana had the longest dress trail in royal wedding history </factoid>
[11:03] <apachelogger> hence the dress was supreme
[11:03] <apachelogger> kate got the better hair though
[11:05] <Riddell> I can't belive you're actually talking about a wedding of people you've never met
[11:06] <tsimpson> look at twitter, apparently lots of people are...
[11:06] <DarkwingDuck> Riddell: I got woken up for it dammit...
[11:06] <DarkwingDuck> its 3a here
[11:07] <DarkwingDuck> I'll think tomorrow I'll watch footage of the royal wedding adn audio from Monty Pythons Flying Circus
[11:07] <apachelogger> Riddell: one does not need to know the people to enjoy a wedding
[11:07]  * apachelogger would argue it is not really about the people anyway
[11:10] <Riddell> DarkwingDuck: 3am!  this wedding could count as cause for divorce I'd say :)
[11:10] <jussi> lol
[11:10] <DarkwingDuck> LOL
[11:11] <Riddell> well I'm going for a canoe, far more productive
[11:11] <apachelogger> ah, boring stuff starts
[11:11]  * jussi would laugh if anonymous or someone hacked the wedding streams :P
[11:11] <DarkwingDuck> Riddell: She was squeeking at the telly in our room and woke me up.
[11:11]  * apachelogger continues fiddling with qt on windows
[11:11] <DarkwingDuck> So I'm updating my home server to 11.04
[11:11] <apachelogger> Riddell: have fun :D
[11:11] <DarkwingDuck> ohhhh jussi wanna have some fun? :D
[11:11] <jussi> hehe
[11:12] <DarkwingDuck> I have all seasons of Monty Python's Flying Circus....
[11:12] <DarkwingDuck> Would be a great video or audio cutin
[11:12] <apachelogger> jussi: post it on twitt0r
[11:12] <apachelogger> with any luck someone feel compelled to do it
[11:12] <jussi> apachelogger: Im not that much of an anarchist...
[11:12] <apachelogger> then we can watch the python instead
[11:12] <DarkwingDuck> I think anonops will be lying low after getting blamed for the Playstation hack
[11:13] <jussi> mind, I would laugh if someone put the audio of the  wedding bit from the princess bride there :P
[11:13] <DarkwingDuck> ROFL
[11:13] <DarkwingDuck> wuv, tru wuv
[11:14]  * apachelogger aint is not no understanding
[11:14] <jussi> mawwwige
[11:14] <jussi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sbqv3MwwVd8
[11:14] <jussi> apachelogger: see the video
[11:14] <DarkwingDuck> hehehe
[11:14] <DarkwingDuck> jussi: you coming back to the states for UDS-P?
[11:15] <jussi> DarkwingDuck: depends on my involvement next cycle and canonicals sponsorship policy ;)
[11:16] <DarkwingDuck> jussi: Aye, I'm going to try and make it again... I'd be there for UDS-O but I had passport issues
[11:16] <jussi> DarkwingDuck: not an acceptable excuse :P
[11:16] <DarkwingDuck> Heh
[11:17]  * apachelogger throws the stinking windows out the stinking door and reboots to youbuntoo
[11:17] <jussi> hehe
[11:18] <DarkwingDuck> hehe
[11:18] <DarkwingDuck> windows?
[11:19] <apachelogger> an operating system
[11:19] <DarkwingDuck> isn't that the yucky one?
[11:19] <c2tarun> can anyone please help me with this error?
[11:19] <c2tarun> http://paste.kde.org/40225/
[11:21] <jussi> "Mawwige, is what bwings us togevar, today..."
[11:21] <DarkwingDuck> c2tarun: are you trying to build in a live environment?
[11:22] <c2tarun> DarkwingDuck: what is live environment? BTW I am on a ec2.
[11:22]  * DarkwingDuck ponders
[11:23] <DarkwingDuck> is /home/ubuntu/kdeedu/kdeedu-4.6.3/kanagram/ a valid location on your sys?
[11:23] <c2tarun> DarkwingDuck: yes
[11:25] <DarkwingDuck> c2tarun: as far as I can tell from the limited sleep I have it has to do with CMake doesn't knwo what to do with LIBKEDUVOCDOCUMENT_INCLUDE_DIR
[11:25]  * c2tarun thought cmake doesn't know the value of LIBKEDUVOCDOCUMENT_INCLUDE_DIR
[11:26] <c2tarun> DarkwingDuck: how can I fix it?
[11:26] <DarkwingDuck> Gimme a sec, checking something before I talk out of my ass too mcuh :D
[11:26] <c2tarun> DarkwingDuck: sure :)
[11:29] <DarkwingDuck> c2tarun: try installing libkdeedu4
[11:29] <DarkwingDuck> c2tarun: in a google run it seems to be related.
[11:30] <c2tarun> DarkwingDuck: trying
[11:30] <DarkwingDuck> and libkdeedu-dev
[11:30] <DarkwingDuck> c2tarun: ^^
[11:31] <yofel> kdeedu needs to build without that though in the buildds, considering it's been ripped into pieces in git and this is the first try to bundle things together again it might very well fail
[11:32] <c2tarun> yofel: can you please explain a bit, I am not getting.
[11:32] <Quintasan> y u not do kdebase anyone?
[11:32]  * Quintasan takes it
[11:32] <DarkwingDuck> yofel: ahhh, I was basing it off of every error I've seen that in had to do with libkdeedu
[11:33] <yofel> "kdeedu" doesn't exists anymore in trunk, since it was split into the seperate projects during the git move. That affects 4.6 too though so now they need to somehow put the stable branches together again
[11:33] <Quintasan> c2tarun: How's your packaging experience so far?
[11:33] <DarkwingDuck> yofel: well that sucks
[11:33] <c2tarun> Quintasan: not much, just few
[11:33] <yofel> DarkwingDuck: sure, sounds likely, it's just that libkdeedu is part of kdeedu, so this shouldn't fail
[11:33] <yofel> then again...
[11:34] <yofel> c2tarun: try what DarkwingDuck said anyway
[11:34] <Quintasan> c2tarun: not much, as in shitty experience or you're doing good?
[11:34] <DarkwingDuck> yofel: I don't see what else it could be though...
[11:34] <DarkwingDuck> Unless the modules were not loading correctly
[11:34] <DarkwingDuck> Or, they are pointing to the wrong locaion in Cmake
[11:35] <c2tarun> Quintasan: not much means, in case of any problem I need to ask somebody, I cant solve them by myself
[11:35]  * DarkwingDuck needs to finish learning packaging
[11:36] <DarkwingDuck> is this wedding over? I need sleep and while the wife has the telly on in the room I wont be able to sleep
[11:37] <Quintasan> DarkwingDuck: lol
[11:37] <Quintasan> DarkwingDuck: it will take at least two hours more
[11:37] <DarkwingDuck> dammit! LOL
[11:37] <Quintasan> c2tarun: well, that's bound to happen at the beginning
[11:37] <c2tarun> Quintasan: yup :)
[11:37] <Riddell> two hours to say "aye alright"?
[11:38] <DarkwingDuck> c2tarun: lemme know if it works
[11:38] <c2tarun> DarkwingDuck: sure
[11:38] <Quintasan> Riddell: British wedding magic
[11:38] <Riddell> Quintasan: English
[11:39] <Quintasan> Riddell: in Poland the whole ceremony takes two hours and then you eat and drink till you can't go off from the table :P
[11:39] <apachelogger> not under the table?
[11:40] <c2tarun> DarkwingDuck yofel: it failed again but with different error http://paste.ubuntu.com/600663/
[11:40] <DarkwingDuck> Quintasan: sounds a lot like my wedding
[11:40] <Quintasan> apachelogger: You can end up under the table if you really want to
[11:40] <Quintasan> :P
[11:40] <yofel> gah, that CMakeLists.txt seems to be a mess...
[11:40] <apachelogger> seems more sensible to me
[11:41]  * yofel tries to build kdeedu here
[11:41] <Quintasan> apachelogger: ending up under the table?
[11:41] <apachelogger> yes
[11:41]  * apachelogger overheats his machine a bit
[11:41] <DarkwingDuck> If I was on something other then my xoom....
[11:42] <c2tarun> yofel: if it gets build with you, please do tell me what is the problem and how to fix it.
[11:42] <apachelogger> what I find super odd .... my cores heat up to some >95 C, yet the fan is not at highest roation speed
[11:42] <yofel> hm, need to download it first, it wasn't up yet when I got the tars
[11:42]  * apachelogger blames youbuntoo
[11:42] <DarkwingDuck> c2tarun: well, at least the first error didn't come back. :P
[11:43] <Quintasan> We're building for natty and maverick, right?
[11:43] <DarkwingDuck> So, we fixed that to introduce another. heh
[11:43] <c2tarun> DarkwingDuck: yup :)
[11:43] <yofel> Quintasan: natty only for now
[11:43] <Quintasan> :<
[11:43] <c2tarun> Quintasan: there is nothing about mav on that page
[11:43] <DarkwingDuck> Okay, i'm goign to try and get back to sleep.
[11:43]  * Quintasan testbuilds against both usually
[11:43] <c2tarun> Quintasan: ninja packaging page.
[11:43] <DarkwingDuck> good luck c2tarun 
[11:44] <Quintasan> DarkwingDuck: good luck to you too :P
[11:44] <c2tarun> DarkwingDuck: good night :)
[11:44] <DarkwingDuck> LD
[11:44] <DarkwingDuck> Night
[11:44] <Quintasan> Enjoy your wedding on TV :P
[11:44] <yofel> gn DarkwingDuck
[11:44] <Quintasan> apachelogger: from when and where are your departing to Budapest?
[11:45] <Quintasan> from where and when*
[11:45] <apachelogger> dunno
[11:45]  * apachelogger is flexible
[11:54] <Quintasan> You "dunno"
[11:54] <Quintasan> ?
[11:54] <Quintasan> lol
[11:55] <yofel> well, graz is near enough to budapest ^^, take a towel and hichhike
[11:56] <yofel> geh, kdeedu totally falls apart when you try to build it
[11:57]  * yofel gets the feeling they just put the svn CMakeLists.txt file in there...
[11:59] <c2tarun> yofel: svn CMakeLists.txt.file?
[12:00] <yofel> c2tarun: the old CMakeLists.txt file that was used for kdeedu before
[12:00] <c2tarun> yofel: how old?
[12:00] <yofel> that isn't compatible with the new git projects though
[12:00] <yofel> c2tarun: a few weeks?
[12:00] <yofel> kdeedu moved to git very recently
[12:00] <yofel> i.e. after 4.6.2 and before 4.6.3
[12:01] <c2tarun> yofel: hmm..... is there any tutorial available that can explain migration from git to svn. I mean the technical implementation?
[12:01] <jussi> apachelogger: lol, all the people at the wedding are starting to look annoyed and tired :P
[12:02] <yofel> c2tarun: erm, you mean svn to git I guess, and you should ask that in #kde-git. But that doesn't have anything to do with US
[12:02] <c2tarun> yofel: ohh... ya
[12:02] <yofel> they broke kdeedu so they need to fix it
[12:02] <yofel> anyone else got an idea? if not I'll send a mail
[12:03] <Quintasan> upstream should fix it
[12:03] <Quintasan> bug them until they do it
[12:03] <Quintasan> kdebase compiled, pushing to bzr and uploading
[12:04] <yofel> I'll send a mail to -packagers then
[12:05] <c2tarun> Quintasan: kdebase depends on which version of kdebase-workspace?
[12:06] <Quintasan> Anyone knows when archives open for oneiric ?
[12:08] <Quintasan> kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:4.6.0)
[12:08] <Quintasan> hmm
[12:08] <Quintasan> this one was built against 4:4.6.3-0ubuntu1~ppa2
[12:09] <Quintasan> I should remember to set kde-sc-dev-latest to 4.6.3
[12:10] <c2tarun> is there any way we can check the build dependency of a package without downloading its source code or any other thing?
[12:11] <Quintasan> c2tarun: apt-cache showsrc <package>
[12:12] <yofel> Quintasan: toolchain is being uploaded, so today or tomorrow I hope
[12:12] <Quintasan> c2tarun: there may be other ways but I do it like this
[12:12] <Quintasan> cool
[12:12]  * Quintasan got 5 updated packages for telepathy stack
[12:13] <c2tarun> Quintasan: in that Build-depends doesn't include kdebase-workspace but dependency graph show that kdebase require kdebase-workspace
[12:13] <Quintasan> c2tarun: kde-sc-dev-latest pulls it all AFAIK
[12:13] <Quintasan> yofel: ^ ?
[12:14] <yofel> hm
[12:14] <c2tarun> Quintasan: so how did you build kdebase? kdebase-workspace-4.6.3 is still not uploded
[12:14] <Quintasan> what?
[12:15] <Quintasan> what the hell...
[12:15] <Quintasan> @_@
[12:15] <c2tarun> Quintasan: sorry, what happened? did I asked something foolish?
[12:15]  * Quintasan hits f5 10 times
[12:15] <Quintasan> c2tarun: my fault, I saw runtime and thought it's workspace
[12:16] <Quintasan> I can just reupload or request a rebuilt
[12:16] <c2tarun> Quintasan: wait I am building kdebase-workspace.
[12:16] <c2tarun> Quintasan: but why did you have to reupload?
[12:17] <Quintasan> kdelibs5-dev : Depends: kdoctools (= 4:4.6.3-0ubuntu1~ppa1) but it is not going to be installed
[12:17] <yofel> could be that the depends was dropped  but nobody updated the dep graph
[12:17] <yofel> Quintasan: I uploaded ppa2 a while ago
[12:17] <yofel> blame LP
[12:18] <Quintasan> c2tarun: If I want to make a rebuild I have to either request a rebuild (if it fails) or upload it with bumped version
[12:18] <c2tarun> Quintasan: oh... so you uploaded with kde-sc-dev-latest 4.6.2?
[12:18] <Quintasan> yofel: ahh kde4libs - 4:4.6.3-0ubuntu1~ppa2 still building on amd64
[12:19] <Quintasan> c2tarun: nope, I uploaded kdebase with depend kde-sc-dev-latest (>= 4:4.6.0) so it took the newest available but not older than 4.6.0
[12:19] <Quintasan> c2tarun: but for testing sake you should bump it to 4.6.3 when uploading to ninjas ppa
[12:19] <c2tarun> Quintasan:  ohh.. :) ya I did that :)
[12:20]  * c2tarun taking kdeartwork
[12:21] <yofel> Quintasan: oneiric open :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/600683/
[12:22] <Quintasan> BOOOYA
[12:23] <yofel> now I wonder how many weeks they'll need to enable the PPAs...
[12:23] <Quintasan> Riddell: Did you upload workspace to PPA?
[12:23]  * Quintasan can't quite see it there
[12:23]  * yofel goes creating oneiric pbuilder :D
[12:24]  * Quintasan is in middle of doing so
[12:24] <Quintasan> >multiarch-support
[12:24] <Quintasan> SO MUCH WIN
[12:25] <Quintasan> Riddell: nvm, it seems I'm doing things wrong
[12:25] <jussi> is toolchain built now? 
[12:25]  * Quintasan should sometimes shut up
[12:26] <yofel> jussi: yep
[12:26] <Quintasan> c2tarun: Did you upload kdebase-workspace to PPA?
[12:26] <jussi> ahh, so we can technically re-open #ubuntu+1 then :D
[12:26] <c2tarun> Quintasan: its still building
[12:26] <c2tarun> Quintasan: 87%
[12:26] <jussi> (if someone is crazy enough to run oneiric that is:P)
[12:26] <yofel> jussi: poke someone then, I did it for natty, and don't feel like running after people right now
[12:26] <Quintasan> jussi: sup
[12:26] <jussi> Quintasan: not much
[12:27] <jussi> yofel: I am that "someone" :P
[12:27] <yofel> ah ^^
[12:27] <c2tarun> is oneiric is going to follow some different toolchain than natty?
[12:27] <Quintasan> jussi: OPEN IT UP1!!11!!1!!!!1SHIFTONE
[12:27] <Quintasan> :P
[12:27] <yofel> XD
[12:28] <yofel> c2tarun: for now it's an updated compiler, and a few system libs
[12:28] <yofel> the rest is copied from natty
[12:28] <Quintasan> c2tarun: let me know when kdebase-workspace is built in PPA so I can do the rest
[12:29] <Quintasan> yofel: I retried the amd64 build of webdev
[12:29] <c2tarun> Quintasan: sure.
[12:29] <c2tarun> Quintasan: can I ask what do you mean by rest?
[12:29] <yofel> thx
[12:29] <Quintasan> rest == things that are left
[12:29] <Quintasan> as in noone is assigned to them now
[12:30] <Quintasan> oneiric y u no debootstrap faster?
[12:30] <c2tarun> Quintasan: that is because required packages are still building :/ like kdebase-workspace.
[12:30] <Quintasan> c2tarun: I know, are you still building in on your PC or you have already uploaded it to PPA?
[12:31] <c2tarun> Quintasan: actually I am building it on a ec2
[12:31] <Quintasan> oh, cool
[12:32] <Quintasan> oh snap
[12:32] <Quintasan> what the hell I'm doing
[12:33] <Quintasan> yofel: slap me in the face, quickly
[12:33]  * yofel slaps Quintasan with a tux statue
[12:33]  * apachelogger had to cry
[12:33] <yofel> what, you're still watching that?
[12:34] <Quintasan> apachelogger: do packaging
[12:34] <Quintasan> now!
[12:36] <Quintasan> yofel: lol debootstrap failed here
[12:36] <c2tarun> are we going to build KDE SC 4.6.3 for maverick as well? or now for Oneiric?
[12:36] <yofel> Quintasan: not here
[12:36] <Quintasan> c2tarun: natty for now
[12:36] <Quintasan> then maverick
[12:36] <Quintasan> and oneiric will have 4.6.3 as default
[12:36] <Quintasan> or 4.7 if they make it by then :P
[12:36] <yofel> natty will go to ppa, the uploads to oneiric and as for maverick we still need to decide
[12:37] <apachelogger> Quintasan: your powershell
[12:37] <Quintasan> whatever
[12:37]  * Quintasan goes off to play Portal
[12:37] <Quintasan> c2tarun: let me know when workspace is ready in PPA
[12:37] <c2tarun> Quintasan: sure, I'll ping you
[12:37] <Quintasan> apachelogger: I blame repositories
[12:38] <Quintasan> or no
[12:38] <Quintasan> I'll blame apachelogger since he's doing nothing :P
[12:38]  * apachelogger is leaving kubuntu
[12:38] <Quintasan> lol
[12:38]  * Quintasan hugs apachelogger
[12:38] <Quintasan> but we still like you bro
[12:39] <apachelogger> that is not gonna stop me from leaving though
[12:39] <Quintasan> awwww
[12:39]  * Quintasan gets more cookies at least
[12:39]  * c2tarun wondering where will anyone go after leaving kubuntu? Wind****
[12:40] <Quintasan> oh god no pls
[12:41] <Quintasan> no Wind***
[12:41] <Quintasan> I ain't touching that unless I want to play games
[12:41] <yofel> why? we could help with kdewin development
[12:42] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/tQ1S3.png
[12:42] <apachelogger> Qt actually made msvc usable
[12:42] <apachelogger> they wrapped their own make around nmake which actually is able to do multiple jobs at once
[12:42] <apachelogger> multicore ftw
[12:43] <yofel> maximum 100°C... you've got cooling issues :P
[12:43] <c2tarun> since 2x2=4 apachelogger can't leave kubuntu ;)
[12:43] <Quintasan> WHAT THE HELL?
[12:43] <Quintasan> I WAS ABOUT TO TYPE THAT "apachelogger DOES PACKAGING ON WINDOWS"
[12:43] <Quintasan> AND WHAT'S THIS?!!?!
[12:43]  * Quintasan ragequit's
[12:43] <yofel> lol
[12:44] <apachelogger> yofel: yeah, I am trying to get it to shutdown from overheating
[12:44] <apachelogger> dell support surely will want a way to reproduce the issue :P
[12:44] <Quintasan> :/
[12:44] <yofel> hm, well, intel cpus actually do shutdown, amds blow up
[12:44] <apachelogger> and since building Qt on linux always overheats I figured on windows would happen the same
[12:44] <Quintasan> apachelogger: You can't comprehend what did you do to my mind.
[12:45] <Quintasan> You deserve Thor's wrath
[12:45] <apachelogger> though actually it does not seem to work
[12:45] <apachelogger> I don't quite get it to scratch 100 C all that often
[12:45] <apachelogger> then again maybe make's multi-job impl is just more multi ^^
[12:45] <apachelogger> Quintasan: why is that?
[12:46] <yofel> I somehow need to de-dust my notebook though. At the beginning I never got above 70°C, now I'm at 85 building things...
[12:46] <apachelogger> I have done kubuntu packaging on windows before
[12:46] <apachelogger> actually pretty sweet :D
[12:46] <Quintasan> :/
[12:46] <apachelogger> yofel: my warning range starts at 80, so with quad and HT I would deem 85 a sensible temperature under load
[12:47] <apachelogger> someone told me that macbooks can get to 110 ^^
[12:47] <apachelogger> sounds rather unhealthy
[12:47] <yofel> ah, not sure what my warning point is, critical is marked as 103
[12:47] <apachelogger> probably also around 80 then
[12:49] <apachelogger> this does not quite make sense
[12:49] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/ipTUX.png
[12:49] <ScottK> I would not bother with 4.6.3 for Maverick.
[12:50] <apachelogger> 100% load yet temp does not go above 95 -.-
[12:50] <ScottK> BTW, not everyone was watching the wedding.
[12:50]  * ScottK was sleeping.
[12:50] <apachelogger> ScottK: you missed the wedding of the year
[12:50] <apachelogger> unless I get married
[12:51] <ScottK> Up until my phone went off with a frickin' CNN Breaking News alert that the blessed event had happened.
[12:51] <ScottK> I have "news" for the CNN dudes: If it's scheduled months in advance it's not breaking news.
[12:52] <apachelogger> lol
[13:00] <yofel> o.O, first time that PPAs work for +1 the moment the toolchain is up...
[13:06]  * yofel subscribed to oneiric-changes
[13:08] <apachelogger> ovorheat
[13:08] <apachelogger> \o/
[13:08] <apachelogger> nice
[13:08] <apachelogger> youbuntoo always does it
[13:08] <apachelogger> I think the kernel is b0rked or something
[13:09] <yofel> well, I would agree that 2.6.37 seemed to use less power than 38
[13:12] <apachelogger> also I think kworker goes wild every once in a while
[13:14] <apachelogger> like right now
[13:14] <apachelogger> my system feels as snappy as a snail
[13:14] <apachelogger> for no reason whatsoever
[13:18] <apachelogger> Top causes for wakeups:
[13:18] <apachelogger>   25.6% (178.0)   kworker/0:1
[13:44] <c2tarun> what does it mean by hunk succeded with a fuzz?
[13:46] <Quintasan> the lines were misplaced by two or three lines I think
[13:49] <c2tarun> Quintasan: may be I refreshed and it is working now.
[13:54] <yofel> fuzz means that the context has changed. Usually you have 3 lines of context before and after the patch, so it can still apply the patch if the file was changed somewhere else
[13:55] <yofel> fuzz X means that X lines of that context have changed
[13:57] <Quintasan> hmm
[13:57] <Quintasan> I was near then
[13:58] <yofel> that the patch wasn't applied to the same line as before is offset
[13:58] <c2tarun> Quintasan: I uploaded the kdebase-workspace now, it might have started building there.
[14:05] <Quintasan> Great.
[14:07] <c2tarun> can anyone help me with this error http://paste.kde.org/40567/ I installed kdebase-workspace-4.6.3 on my machine and kdegraphics is in ppa, still I am getting this error. why?
[14:09] <yofel> well, do you have kde-sc-dev-latest installed?
[14:10] <yofel> 4:4.6.3+5.63ubuntu17 that is
[14:13] <c2tarun> yofel: I tried to install it, it got bit complicated finally I am installing all the dependencies again, that may take some time.
[14:46] <c2tarun> yofel: most of the packages remained will depend on kdebase. what about kdel-10n?
[14:46] <yofel> I'll do kde-l10n later
[14:47] <yofel> or someone else if I don't get to it on the 5th
[14:47] <c2tarun> yofel: I can try, I did it once, may be I can do it again.
[14:48] <yofel> ah, it's the 3rd
[14:48] <yofel> c2tarun: sure, ping me on tuesday
[14:49] <c2tarun> yofel: ok, I'll try, if succesfull then ok, otherwise I'll ping you on tuesday :)
[14:50] <yofel> but really, I would rather do that myself then as it's less work for me to just upload it than to work with you and merge your branch
[14:50] <yofel> you can do it once you're a kubuntu-member
[14:52] <c2tarun> yofel: ok :) sure.
[15:00] <yofel> hm, kdeartwork failed
[15:00] <yofel> ah, kdebase-worspace not published yet
[15:05] <c2tarun> Quintasan: it done
[15:05] <c2tarun> yofel: its done now.
[15:06] <c2tarun> yofel: I am restarting build
[15:07] <c2tarun> Quintasan: can you please upload kdebase?
[15:11] <c2tarun> can anyone please look at this buildlog https://i70689277.restricted.launchpadlibrarian.net/70689277/buildlog_ubuntu-natty-i386.kdetoys_4%3A4.6.3-0ubuntu1~ppa1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz?token=4d1c36efa46de4797cf684a8de3f0df1
[15:12] <yofel> c2tarun: kdebase-workspace not published yet
[15:13] <c2tarun> yofel: ohh.... I thought it will be published as soon as it is build :/
[15:13] <yofel> no, in out ppa: upload -> wait for source to be published -> build binaries -> wait for binaries to be published
[15:14] <yofel> kdebase-workspace binaries aren't yet published on i386
[15:14] <yofel> c2tarun: see that green gear with i386 beside it? https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+packages
[15:14] <c2tarun> yofel: ya I just noticed
[15:26] <Quintasan> c2tarun: uploading
[15:26] <c2tarun> Quintasan: Great :)
[15:55] <c2tarun> The topic of channel says Oneiric open for development. What does it mean by development?
[15:56] <c2tarun> I mean what kind of development?
[15:56] <ulysses> https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2011-April/000849.html
[15:57] <debfx> uhh, the kwallet backend of python-keyring is so broken :(
[16:00] <maco> c2tarun: start uploading packages...
[16:01] <c2tarun> maco: uploading from where to where? sorry I am not following.
[16:01] <maco> c2tarun: from your computer to the ubuntu archives
[16:01] <maco> thats what they mean by development
[16:01] <maco> there wasnt a way to upload to the Oneiric repositories before, because there weren't Oneiric repositories before
[16:01] <maco> now there are
[16:02] <apachelogger> http://aplg.kollide.net/images/avatar/snapshot177.png <-- I can watch doctor who using qml :P
[16:03] <c2tarun> maco: ok, I got that part now we have oneiric repo and we can upload there. but what packages? Created by us?
[16:03] <maco> c2tarun: well yesterday a call went out to package up the new kde release, for example
[16:04] <ulysses> apachelogger: huh, that's one of the best episodes, the wheeping angels
[16:04] <maco> c2tarun: so, new upstream releases of that which is already packaged, and also if there's not-yet-packaged software htat you'd like to see packaged, then that too
[16:05] <c2tarun> maco: ok
[16:05] <yofel> c2tarun: any packages, point is that the archive is open now, before yesterday nobody could upload anything to oneiric
[16:05] <yofel> as the oneiric archive didn't exists yet
[16:05] <yofel> *exist
[16:05] <apachelogger> debfx: python-keyring is very broken in general
[16:06] <c2tarun> apachelogger: on what desktop env you are?
[16:06] <debfx> apachelogger: yeah, luckily all ubuntu dev tools use it :/
[16:16] <ryanakca> ScottK: Alright, for the wiki spec, I guess the gist of it is that the current wiki theme is terribly out of date and should be updated to match the current website's look so as to provide a more integrated look and feel?
[16:18] <apachelogger> debfx: they do?
[16:18] <apachelogger> what for?
[16:18] <apachelogger> c2tarun: a laptop env
[16:18] <debfx> apachelogger: for the launchpad api authorization
[16:18] <apachelogger> what for do they need a keyring there?
[16:19] <debfx> to store the authorization token
[16:21] <apachelogger> that does not quite make sense
[16:21] <apachelogger> isn't it doing oauth?
[16:21] <apachelogger> ah
[16:21] <apachelogger> it stores the token in the keyring?
[16:21] <debfx> yes
[16:21] <apachelogger> majorshit(tm)
[16:21] <apachelogger> well
[16:21] <apachelogger> one day the secret service will come ^^
[16:22] <apachelogger> Nightrose: can you be annoyed alread?
[16:22] <apachelogger> +y
[16:23] <apachelogger> cause me team of awesome is MIA :(
[16:23]  * apachelogger is getting very sad
[16:23] <Nightrose> apachelogger: if you in return read my thesis abstract yes
[16:23] <apachelogger> abstracts are short, right?
[16:23] <Nightrose> still nothing? that's bad
[16:23] <Nightrose> yes
[16:23] <apachelogger> cando
[16:23] <Nightrose> \o/
[16:23] <Nightrose> http://lydiapintscher.de/tmp/thesis.pdf
[16:24] <Nightrose> page 9
[16:24] <Nightrose> let me see who your lazy team mates are
[16:24] <debfx> the oauth config parser chokes on the string from kwallet which is converted from QString to unicode
[16:25] <debfx> if I do s/unicode/str/ it works fine
[16:26] <apachelogger> Nightrose: the second sentence is suffering from comma-overload IMHO
[16:26] <Nightrose> i no
[16:26] <Nightrose> :/
[16:28] <apachelogger> needs splitt0ring into multiple sentences ^^
[16:28] <apachelogger> last sentence of first para could use a "the projects" before the and
[16:28] <apachelogger> otherwise kinda horrible to read
[16:29] <Nightrose> *nod*
[16:29] <apachelogger> otherwise me likes :)
[16:29] <Nightrose> about your team of awesome: it's not really so awesome, is it? :(  one of them is with calligra the other with kate
[16:29] <Nightrose> cboemann and cullman are the mentors
[16:29] <apachelogger> maybe gmail ate my mail
[16:29] <apachelogger> or akonadi
[16:30]  * apachelogger doesn't trust the cloud anymore and certainly not the akonadi :P
[16:30] <apachelogger> oh crappy comment on blogpost
[16:30] <apachelogger> "Well I think that there must be help about drivers. People face so many problems fixing drivers for their unsupported hardware."
[16:30] <apachelogger> thinks like that make me litterally go *shrug*
[16:31] <apachelogger> Nightrose: mail definitely got sent
[16:31] <apachelogger> so indeed there might be a lack of awesome :/
[16:32] <Nightrose> mpfh
[16:35] <ScottK> ryanakca: Sounds good.
[16:38] <apachelogger> oh no, our master timed out!!!
[18:05] <bambee> oneiric opened to development :)
[18:05] <bambee> mhhh kdeplasma-addons is not available for kde 4.6.3 ? I don't find it on ktown...
[18:06] <yofel> not yet uploaded I guess, the first mail did say that kdeedu and kdeplasma-addons will be delayed
[18:07] <bambee> yofel: ok
[18:21] <shadeslayer> 'lo
[18:24]  * ryanakca can't help but congratulate wiki.k.o and its endless internal server errors.
[18:24] <ryanakca> ScottK: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/kubuntu-oneiric-wiki
[18:32] <shadeslayer> hehe
[18:33] <shadeslayer> oooh
[18:33] <shadeslayer> ryanakca++
[19:07] <ScottK> ryanakca: Would you please make kubuntu-council the approver.
[19:10] <ryanakca> ScottK: Done
[19:26] <ScottK> Thanks.
[19:43] <ScottK> apachelogger: As the creator of our Kubuntu packaging branches, I think you should attend https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-packaging-branches
[19:49] <DarkwingDuck> Who all from the Kubuntu team is going to UDS-O?
[19:49] <Riddell> DarkwingDuck: see https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-O
[19:49] <DarkwingDuck> Thnak sRid
[19:49] <DarkwingDuck> Thanks Riddell 
[19:50] <DarkwingDuck> tab fail
[20:33] <Quintasan> Riddell: Shouldn't we have "Release party time!" in the topic?
[20:34] <Quintasan> Riddell: Also, we are getting tons of positive reviews :D
[20:34] <Quintasan> kubotu: order cookies for everyone
[20:34]  * kubotu is going to his secret storehouse to get cookies for everyone - might take some time.
[20:34]  * kubotu is back and slides cookies down the bar to everyone
[20:36] <apachelogger> reminds me that I still need to write mails
[20:36]  * apachelogger schedules this after .prn in qml2
[20:48] <ScottK> Quintasan: Links please.
[20:50] <bambee> french mirrors are very  slow... :\ (probably due to upgrades to natty)
[20:51] <Quintasan> ScottK: http://www.jlacroix.me/?p=1999
[20:52] <Quintasan> ScottK: any idea if ubuntu message indicatator is taken care of by downstream patches?
[20:52] <yofel> nothing beats archive.ubuntu.com and ppa.launchpad.net in slowness today though, you get pretty much no data from them...
[20:52] <ScottK> Quintasan: Not for KDE stuff, no.  It's all upstream.
[20:53] <bambee> ppa.launchpad.net is also very slow... strange o_O
[20:53] <yofel> bambee: not really, afaik ppa.lp.net and a.u.c share the same servers
[20:54] <yofel> and somehow everyone likes to upgrade using the main server...
[20:54] <Quintasan> They should have already implemented debdelta in main repos 
[20:54] <yofel> I'm getting incredible 10.9 kB/s out of them
[20:55] <bambee> yofel: I did not know that they share the same servers
[20:55] <Quintasan> yofel: We're popular!
[20:55] <yofel> true..
[20:55] <ScottK> yofel and bambee: Not the same servers, but in the same data center.
[20:56] <bambee> ohh
[20:56] <ScottK> If the DC is starved for bandwidth, it will affect both.
[20:56] <yofel> ah :/
[20:56]  * bulldog98 is starting to hate the debian/watch files
[20:56] <bambee> that makes sense then...
[20:57] <bulldog98> yofel: you are even slower then my max speed by factor 5
[20:58] <yofel> hmpf
[21:03] <ScottK> So did we lose the reviews page in the latest web site redesign?
[21:03]  * ScottK remembers we had one.
[21:20] <apachelogger> ScottK: what is a reviews page?
[21:20] <ScottK> apachelogger: A page that lists reviews of Kubuntu.
[21:20] <ScottK> We used to have one.
[21:21] <apachelogger> oh, I remember, sorta
[21:21] <apachelogger> ScottK: wasn't that on the wiki?
[21:21] <apachelogger> or was that amarok's *shrug*
[21:22]  * apachelogger is getting old
[21:22] <ScottK> No, it was on kubuntu.org
[21:25] <apachelogger> ScottK: google suggests it got lost then
[21:25] <ScottK> Hmmm.
[21:26] <ScottK> Who's our web minion these days?
[21:26] <ScottK> ryanakca: Can we get our reviews page back?
[21:26] <ScottK> It'd be nice to have one now that they are good.
[21:26] <apachelogger> lol
[21:26] <apachelogger> :D
[21:26] <apachelogger> ScottK: I think that should be in the wiki
[21:26] <ryanakca> ScottK: If I have a copy on my HD, sure. If not, one will have to be put back together.
[21:26] <apachelogger> then again the wiki times out ever so often *shrug*
[21:27] <ScottK> Normal users don't look at the wiki.
[21:27] <ScottK> Only the intersection of ones that are developers and really patient.
[21:27] <Tm_T> or, only when it's cleverly linked in the main website
[21:29] <apachelogger> ScottK: you pointy pointy there
[21:29] <apachelogger> just thinking, wiki is more maintainable as everyone can add new stuff
[21:29] <Tm_T> except moinmoin
[21:30] <apachelogger> pyth0rn
[21:30] <ScottK> apachelogger: Everyone or no one.  Depending on it's current state of slowness.
[21:31] <ScottK> apachelogger: Beats php.
[21:31] <apachelogger> if we had a wiki made out of java that would rox
[21:31] <ScottK> There's a startling lack of php free wiki options.
[21:31]  * ryanakca wishes they'd upgrade the wiki to something a tad more recent. When I did the current theme and had questions, I was met with "1.6.3 is really out of date. Upgrade to something more recent and we'll help you". And that was in 2008.
[21:31] <apachelogger> the sad thing is that it would perform better than pyth0rn any day
[21:32] <apachelogger> ScottK: perly always is an option :D
[21:32] <apachelogger> twiki is perly I believe
[21:32] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck would surely like that
[21:33] <ScottK> There are a few, but not very many.
[21:34] <Tm_T> in my experience, MediaWiki is more enjoyable to use than MoinMoin
[21:34] <apachelogger> it is because wiki is a fail of concept by design:P
[21:34] <apachelogger> takes all the good out of http
[21:35] <ScottK> No.  Great concept, just not implemented well to work at scale.
[21:35] <ScottK> That and too many lazy devs using php.
[21:35] <apachelogger> nono, you cannot scale well enough and keep data in order
[21:36] <ryanakca> ScottK: I can't seem to find it. I can go through the hassle of digging out the server that ran my Drupal testbed and checking to see if I have a copy on there, but it may be simpler just to remake the reviews page from scratch.
[21:36] <apachelogger> didn't tim himself claim that 404 is the awesumest thing about http?
[21:36] <ScottK> OK.
[21:36] <apachelogger> that is at least what a discussion @ uni resulted in
[21:37] <apachelogger> Nightrose: should I write another mail to my not so awesome team of awesome?
[21:38] <Nightrose> apachelogger: yeah think so
[21:38]  * apachelogger is scared though :/
[21:38]  * Nightrose hugs apachelogger
[21:38] <apachelogger> what to write "ye bstrds go answer!!!"?
[21:39] <Nightrose> how about "why are you not being awesome????"?
[21:39] <Nightrose> :D
[21:39] <apachelogger> wfm
[21:39] <ScottK> Why is your awesomeness insufficient?
[21:39] <apachelogger> as journey put it back in them good old days
[21:39] <apachelogger> don't stop believing
[21:39] <apachelogger> ^^
[21:39] <ScottK> Gets the same point across with less negative waves.
[21:39] <Nightrose> hehe
[21:39] <ScottK> Gah.  I hate that song.
[21:40] <apachelogger> lol
[21:40] <ScottK> Have since the first time I heard it (when it was originally released)
[21:40] <apachelogger> it is absolutely essential to not listen to the lyrics
[21:40] <Nightrose> impossible
[21:41] <apachelogger> I tell you, it is dangerous 
[21:41]  * apachelogger is building Qt for the what seems to be 15. time today
[21:41] <apachelogger> and that with an overheating cpu
[21:41] <apachelogger> gsoc is no fun not at all
[21:45] <apachelogger> ScottK: when was that song released anyway?
[21:45] <ScottK> 1981
[21:45] <apachelogger> youtube suggests before people had developed understanding for how to not look seriously weird
[21:45] <ScottK> It was the 80's.  Of course.
[21:46] <apachelogger> actually from the lead singer's look I'd have guessed 70's ^^
[21:47] <apachelogger> 80's were all sorts of awesome, Nightrose was born that decade
[21:47] <ScottK> 1981 was still the 70s in many ways
[21:47] <ScottK> Disco hadn't quite died yet.
[21:47] <apachelogger> hehe :D
[21:47] <apachelogger> disco
[21:48]  * apachelogger actually thinks markey was a lot into disco
[21:51] <ScottK> apachelogger: Don't let jussi's message go to your head.  "amazing" is not always a good thing.
[21:52] <apachelogger> long ago I have learned not to listen to jussi :P
[21:52] <ScottK> There is that.
[21:52] <apachelogger> besides, I am special
[21:53] <apachelogger> ...I am like the only person in all of ubuntu that has qml2 :P
[21:54] <ScottK> Special also has mixed results.
[21:55] <ScottK> http://www.google.com/search?aq=f&sourceid=chrome&client=ubuntu&channel=cs&ie=UTF-8&q=short+bus+special%22
[21:58] <apachelogger> well, I'll be less sepcial once I am out of rehab
[21:58] <apachelogger> :O
[21:58] <apachelogger> in the name of kent beck
[21:58] <apachelogger> I am the awesomest
[21:59]  * apachelogger can play .prn in qml2
[21:59] <apachelogger> natively
[21:59]  * valorie takes off to linuxfest northwest
[21:59] <apachelogger> valorie: hf
[22:02] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: funny thing is ive used twiki before
[22:03] <apachelogger> http://i.imgur.com/5v10K.png
[22:03] <jussi> apachelogger: what is the qml2?
[22:03] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: makes sense, it being perly and all ^^
[22:03] <jussi> does it work on android?
[22:03] <apachelogger> jussi: the upcoming qml
[22:04] <apachelogger> where rendering is all done in GL
[22:04] <apachelogger> thus allowing for much better performance and stuff
[22:04] <jussi> and does it have phonon?
[22:04] <jussi> :D
[22:04] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: its a bit bitchy but, works well
[22:04] <apachelogger> on my machine it does :P
[22:04] <DarkwingDuck> okay, torn between a xoom and the ipad2
[22:05] <apachelogger> ipad2 is smoothz
[22:05] <apachelogger> not much good if you are floss fanboi though
[22:05] <DarkwingDuck> yeah i know
[22:06] <DarkwingDuck> plus i have verizon so i can get 3G with the xoom
[22:06] <jussi> meh@ both motorola and apple
[22:06] <Quintasan> I just hope that apachelogger won't become more mad than he is now :O
[22:07] <DarkwingDuck> hehe
[22:07] <Quintasan> jussi: ++
[22:07] <Quintasan> Motophail
[22:07] <jussi> Locked bootloader and locked everything. they both suck
[22:07] <Quintasan> XOOM doesnt have locked bootloader
[22:07] <Quintasan> Google made sure they didn't lock it
[22:07] <DarkwingDuck> yup
[22:07] <Quintasan> But rest of the stuff...another story
[22:07] <DarkwingDuck> same with myb droid 1
[22:08] <DarkwingDuck> hence why im running gingerbread
[22:08] <Quintasan> Really? I went back to Froyo on my Milestone
[22:08] <Quintasan> Can't play any games on 2.3
[22:09]  * apachelogger gigles over androidz
[22:12] <DarkwingDuck> im running bugless beast rom and no issues yet
[22:13] <apachelogger> kubotu: google lord youtbue zoiberg whoop
[22:13] <kubotu> Results for lord youtbue zoiberg whoop: 1. YouTube - zoidberg whoop!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjPu97M3aYc | 2. YouTube - Zoidberg Whoop: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV-qS82lXtk | 3. Urban Dictionary: a zoidberg: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=a%20zoidberg
[22:13] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KV-qS82lXtk&feature=related
[22:13] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-y_1TmbMbi0&NR=1
[22:13] <apachelogger> :D
[22:14] <apachelogger> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbSMxJVqXn4&feature=related
[22:14] <apachelogger> oh my
[22:15] <apachelogger> halp!
[22:17] <DarkwingDuck> dammit... every time. i swear that every time hew linux heads are updated it never downloads and configures properly
[22:17] <Quintasan> I just hate how retarded mounting removable media gets under Linux
[22:17] <Quintasan> http://i.imgur.com/inayn.png
[22:17] <DarkwingDuck> and it leaves my nvidia card behind
[22:17] <Quintasan> That's a DAMN GOOD name for a mount point
[22:17] <DarkwingDuck> :D
[22:25] <apachelogger> Quintasan: bogus encoding?
[22:25] <apachelogger> or maybe just a butterfly
[22:25]  * apachelogger sends spam to his gsoc master
[22:38] <Roey> http://www.jlacroix.me/?p=1999  <-- glowing positive review of Kubuntu 11.04.  God job, all!
[22:40] <Riddell> well not quite God, not yet anyway :)
[22:41] <neversfelde> rofl
[22:42] <JontheEchidna> ^that guy was quite critical about some of our more recent releases, so that's pretty good :)
[22:45] <apachelogger> ScottK: keep em session subscriptions coming :D
[22:45] <apachelogger> oh, my gsoc master is pleased \o/
[22:45] <apachelogger> I am a student of awesome
[22:46]  * DarkwingDuck mumbles
[22:46] <DarkwingDuck> you think I would be used to this by now.
[22:48] <Roey> Riddell:  :) 
[22:49] <apachelogger> Fourth, I really don’t like reKonq, the preinstalled browser. I found that it freezes constantly on my machine, and is practically useless. 
[22:49] <apachelogger> I can reproduce this 
[22:49] <apachelogger> like every time
[22:49] <DarkwingDuck> rekonq is driving me nuts too
[22:49] <apachelogger> oneiric is getting firefox
[22:50] <DarkwingDuck> I don't like the RAM leaks in Firefox
[22:50] <DarkwingDuck> I use google chrome
[22:51] <DarkwingDuck> Well, right now I'm not using anything till I fix my vidcard module issues
[22:52] <apachelogger> the advantage of firefox is that we do not have to care about anything ^^
[22:52] <apachelogger> updates, security, all done for ubuntu anyway
[22:52] <DarkwingDuck> That is very true
[22:52] <Riddell> firefox isn't KDE
[22:52] <DarkwingDuck> hehehe
[22:53] <Riddell> any programme which has to have someone employed full time to look after it has issues
[22:53] <ScottK> Yes, but having that already covered, it's not particularly our problem.
[22:53] <ScottK> Given our integration patches, Firefox is more KDE than rekonq is a browser.
[22:53] <DarkwingDuck> teh thing that drives me nuts about Rekonq is when i use the 'back' button I have to refresh the page to use a link
[22:54] <DarkwingDuck> ScottK: +1
[22:54] <apachelogger> *nod*
[22:54] <DarkwingDuck> I would vote for +1 we find a better browser unless we can get the main issues with rekonq fixed.
[22:54] <apachelogger> we have wanted the main issues fixed for what... 3 releases now
[22:55] <apachelogger> yet it does not seem to get better
[22:55] <apachelogger> if anything it gets worse on my system
[22:55] <apachelogger> also, a lot of rekonq's painful issues come from webkit really
[22:56] <apachelogger> and the fact that even meego decided to use fennec rather than an own browser based on qtwebkit ought to say something about the production quality of qtwebkit right now
[22:56] <DarkwingDuck> sudo apt-get -f install
[22:56] <DarkwingDuck> Oops
[22:56] <apachelogger> ^^
[22:56]  * apachelogger knows people who repatedly type make in IM windows ^^
[22:58] <DarkwingDuck> hehehe
[23:09] <bambee> good night
[23:10] <DarkwingDuck> Hmmmz, I think this is a local issue with my computer... everytime there is a kernal update the new linux-headers fail to download and instill correctly.
[23:10] <DarkwingDuck> Unless anyone else has an this issue?
[23:11] <apachelogger> sounds the strange
[23:12] <DarkwingDuck> It's happened with every update since I got this lappy.
[23:12] <DarkwingDuck> So, the solution is the install the headers and it works.
[23:12] <DarkwingDuck> because it breaks my nvidia module
[23:12] <DarkwingDuck> and it's annoying
[23:13] <DarkwingDuck> it fails both with kpackagekit updates and apt-get update
[23:13] <DarkwingDuck> rather upgrade
[23:14]  * apachelogger blames le vidia
[23:18] <DarkwingDuck> Normally I would to apachelogger however, the new linux-headers are failing to download and/or configure. 
[23:19] <DarkwingDuck> So, I can't quite make the leap that nvidia is blocking the download of the updated headers
[23:20] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: well
[23:20] <apachelogger> does it download at all?
[23:20] <apachelogger> or does it say the package is held back?
[23:20] <DarkwingDuck> apachelogger: doesn't download at all
[23:21] <DarkwingDuck> I just have to connect via CLI and manually download. Only takes like 5 minutes but, it's more of a PITA
[23:21] <apachelogger> cause apt-get upgrade will not install a package upgrade in every situation
[23:21] <apachelogger> like when the upgrade depends on a new package ^^
[23:21] <apachelogger> for that there is dist-upgrade
[23:21] <DarkwingDuck> But, kpackagekit should
[23:21] <DarkwingDuck> esp when it failed on the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 last night.
[23:22] <apachelogger> perhaps, perhaps not
[23:22] <apachelogger> dist-upgrade ought to take care of it eitherway
[23:23] <DarkwingDuck> I'll run dist-upgrade next time there is a kernal update
[23:23]  * DarkwingDuck grins
[23:23] <DarkwingDuck> At least I know how to fix it.
[23:24] <Riddell> neversfelde: the khelpcentre season of kde project is looking for a mentor, would you be interested?
[23:25] <Riddell> hmm, not neversfelde 
[23:25] <Riddell> nixternal: ^^
[23:25] <neversfelde> Riddell: no :)
[23:25] <DarkwingDuck> lol
[23:26] <apachelogger> lol squared
[23:27] <DarkwingDuck> Wouldn't that be lol^2
[23:33] <apachelogger> DarkwingDuck: typoring is faster than making a crappy special char
[23:34] <apachelogger> the one and only reason phonon versions actually have code names that only the development team knows about
[23:34] <apachelogger> writing hyperspeed is much faster than 4.6.0
[23:35] <yofel> isn't that the same for all numbered versions...
[23:37] <apachelogger> yofel: having a name?
[23:38] <apachelogger> suppose so, just that the truly silly people mix versions with names causing ultimate SEO problems :P
[23:40] <yofel> heh