/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2011/04/29/#ubuntu-accessibility.txt

charlie-tcaThey aren't very far with it yet, but I can use orca with Xubuntu00:00
charlie-tcaIt just takes more work to get it going, since I have to install and start ati-sp-registryd00:01
charlie-tcathat's not right, should be at-api-registryd00:03
charlie-tcathat's not right, should be at-spi-registryd00:03
TheMusoat-spi-registryd00:04
TheMusoRight.00:04
TheMusoc00:04
charlie-tcalol00:05
charlie-tcawell, I guess I have to go try and eat something. 00:06
paul_hreally shouldn't have started this distro upgrade on my machine that's already running ubuntu. gonna take hours. guess the ubuntu servers are swamped00:06
TheMusopaul_h: That they are.00:15
AlanBellJackyAlcine: I just made a generic driver for it00:16
AlanBellnot using libopenmary, I didn't understand that00:16
AlanBellJackyAlcine: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/openmary.conf00:18
AlanBellJackyAlcine: put that in /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules00:18
TheMusoooo. Oneiric changes list now exists...00:18
AlanBellJackyAlcine: then in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf add a line to load the module00:18
* TheMuso subscribes.00:19
AlanBellAddModule "openmary" "sd_generic" "openmary.conf"00:19
AlanBellJackyAlcine: then restart speech-dispatcher, then you should be good00:19
JackyAlcineVery interesting; I wonder if we can build a package for this..00:20
paul_hAlanBell: this is a generic sd driver for a new synth?00:20
AlanBellpleia2: yes yes yes!00:20
AlanBellpaul_h: yes00:20
AlanBellJackyAlcine: or roll it into the speech dispatcher package or something00:21
TheMusoBest thing would be to get it into speech-dispatcher upstream.00:21
AlanBellwould be trivial to point to a local openmary, but that one points to a fairly powerful server I put up00:21
JackyAlcineIndeed, but then openmary would have to be packaged and made a dependency of speechd if that's done, no?00:22
JackyAlcineAnd I remember hearing that packing Java applications is a bit tedious than the conventional process.00:22
paul_hAlanBell: do you have a link to where I can hear a sample?00:22
AlanBellJackyAlcine: well the fun part of this is that I accepted the licenses y00:23
AlanBellJackyAlcine: well the fun part of this is that I accepted the licenses so you don't have to00:23
AlanBellpaul_h: yes, one sec . . .00:23
AlanBellpaul_h: have fun -> http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:59125/00:23
AlanBellpaul_h: try different voices00:23
AlanBellJackyAlcine: have a look at the openmary.conf file, it just does curl to a remote totally standard openmary instance00:24
AlanBellJackyAlcine: would be nice to get the parameters like volume and language/locale and voice working00:25
* AlanBell is a bit drunk right now so don't ask difficult questions00:25
JackyAlcineLol00:25
JackyAlcineBut those can be manipulated via query parameters in the URI request.00:26
AlanBellthe release party was great and skaet is nice00:26
JackyAlcinehttp://mary.dfki.de:59125/documentation00:26
AlanBellJackyAlcine: yeah, they can, but they need to be passed through from orca to speech dispatcher to openmary00:26
AlanBell$data is the text to say00:27
JackyAlcineHmm, perhaps have an alternate application that modifies such settings and allow the conf read it from disk or some alternative location?00:27
AlanBellmeh00:27
AlanBellthere are parameters to put in the curl string00:27
pleia2AlanBell: ok, I'll write up a draft post once I get the loco directory link :)00:28
AlanBelllike $volume $language etc00:28
AlanBell$voice00:28
AlanBellI just have not figured them out yet00:28
AlanBellpleia2: that would be wonderful00:28
JackyAlcineHmm, I'll see what I can do tonight into tomorrow night over here then.00:28
paul_hAlanBell: thanks. very nice :) are they free?00:28
JackyAlcineBut good work, AlanBell 00:29
AlanBellthanks JackyAlcine 00:29
JackyAlcinepaul_h, every single one of them are free.00:29
AlanBellpaul_h: they are an assortment of different kinds of free00:29
AlanBellI don't have any mbrola voices loaded because a) they are crap and b) they are not very nice00:29
AlanBelland c) they are not free enough00:30
AlanBella) and b) were kind of the same weren't they00:30
* AlanBell drinks coffee00:30
paul_hAlanBell: crap and not very nice are closely related :)00:35
AlanBellIf I hadn't been at a release party I would be making more sense00:50
Pendulummaco: awesome :)02:52
Pendulumpleia2: did you ever get an answer about the exhibition and blog?03:52
Fudgehi does anybody know how i can change the name of an icon on a panel?03:53
TheMusoFudge: Depends on what the icon is for/does.03:56
TheMusoFudge: If its a launcher, you should be able to navigate to it on the panel, open the context menu i.e shift + f10, and change the name in the properties.03:57
Fudgejsut has move remove lock to panel, no properties. its a menu03:59
Fudgetrying to rename menu to mint-menu03:59
TheMusoRight, so you'd have to hack the code that is responsible for that applet.04:00
TheMusoSince its not a launcher icon.04:00
Fudgecant find it, oh well04:11
will_anyone know what channel i can find screenlet info in05:46
will_im looking to change screenlets units to farenhiet not celsius05:46
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freglmaco: this is not true. QAccessible as frame work is needed independent of the bridges since Qt is cross platform. <maco> support for AT-SPI2 was in the works but AT-SPI2 got so behind that Qt people just went and made their own framework (QAccessible) which KAccessible uses10:59
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macofregl: but on linux is that how it works?14:10
macofregl: im getting confused, sorry :(14:12
macofregl: oh, it was KAccessible that was "oh lets stop waiting"14:13
macofrom what sebastian sauer said. 14:13
freglmaco: KAccessible is using QAccessible, just like the at-spi2 bridge, yes15:25
pleia2Pendulum: yeah, AlanBell said it would be good, I have a loco directory entry now from -hu so I'll write some stuff up later17:15
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pleia2loco directory entry for Invisible Exhibition: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/949/detail/ :)19:14
Pendulumpleia2: awesome!19:18
pleia2the only tricky thing is we need to arrange things ahead of time, so we need a vague idea of how many are coming the friday before UDS, and a final list so we can buy tickets monday evening at UDS19:18
Pendulumpleia2: either I can give you access to the blog or you can e-mail something to me or AlanBell ( AlanBell may be better if it's not done tonight because tomorrow I start almost 24 hours of travel)19:20
pleia2Pendulum: I'll draft up something this evening and email it to both of you :)19:21
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