[00:00] <charlie-tca> They aren't very far with it yet, but I can use orca with Xubuntu
[00:01] <charlie-tca> It just takes more work to get it going, since I have to install and start ati-sp-registryd
[00:03] <charlie-tca> that's not right, should be at-api-registryd
[00:03] <charlie-tca> that's not right, should be at-spi-registryd
[00:04] <TheMuso> at-spi-registryd
[00:04] <TheMuso> Right.
[00:04] <TheMuso> c
[00:05] <charlie-tca> lol
[00:06] <charlie-tca> well, I guess I have to go try and eat something. 
[00:06] <paul_h> really shouldn't have started this distro upgrade on my machine that's already running ubuntu. gonna take hours. guess the ubuntu servers are swamped
[00:15] <TheMuso> paul_h: That they are.
[00:16] <AlanBell> JackyAlcine: I just made a generic driver for it
[00:16] <AlanBell> not using libopenmary, I didn't understand that
[00:18] <AlanBell> JackyAlcine: http://people.ubuntu.com/~alanbell/openmary.conf
[00:18] <AlanBell> JackyAlcine: put that in /etc/speech-dispatcher/modules
[00:18] <TheMuso> ooo. Oneiric changes list now exists...
[00:18] <AlanBell> JackyAlcine: then in /etc/speech-dispatcher/speechd.conf add a line to load the module
[00:19]  * TheMuso subscribes.
[00:19] <AlanBell> AddModule "openmary" "sd_generic" "openmary.conf"
[00:19] <AlanBell> JackyAlcine: then restart speech-dispatcher, then you should be good
[00:20] <JackyAlcine> Very interesting; I wonder if we can build a package for this..
[00:20] <paul_h> AlanBell: this is a generic sd driver for a new synth?
[00:20] <AlanBell> pleia2: yes yes yes!
[00:20] <AlanBell> paul_h: yes
[00:21] <AlanBell> JackyAlcine: or roll it into the speech dispatcher package or something
[00:21] <TheMuso> Best thing would be to get it into speech-dispatcher upstream.
[00:21] <AlanBell> would be trivial to point to a local openmary, but that one points to a fairly powerful server I put up
[00:22] <JackyAlcine> Indeed, but then openmary would have to be packaged and made a dependency of speechd if that's done, no?
[00:22] <JackyAlcine> And I remember hearing that packing Java applications is a bit tedious than the conventional process.
[00:22] <paul_h> AlanBell: do you have a link to where I can hear a sample?
[00:23] <AlanBell> JackyAlcine: well the fun part of this is that I accepted the licenses y
[00:23] <AlanBell> JackyAlcine: well the fun part of this is that I accepted the licenses so you don't have to
[00:23] <AlanBell> paul_h: yes, one sec . . .
[00:23] <AlanBell> paul_h: have fun -> http://mumble.libertus.co.uk:59125/
[00:23] <AlanBell> paul_h: try different voices
[00:24] <AlanBell> JackyAlcine: have a look at the openmary.conf file, it just does curl to a remote totally standard openmary instance
[00:25] <AlanBell> JackyAlcine: would be nice to get the parameters like volume and language/locale and voice working
[00:25]  * AlanBell is a bit drunk right now so don't ask difficult questions
[00:25] <JackyAlcine> Lol
[00:26] <JackyAlcine> But those can be manipulated via query parameters in the URI request.
[00:26] <AlanBell> the release party was great and skaet is nice
[00:26] <JackyAlcine> http://mary.dfki.de:59125/documentation
[00:26] <AlanBell> JackyAlcine: yeah, they can, but they need to be passed through from orca to speech dispatcher to openmary
[00:27] <AlanBell> $data is the text to say
[00:27] <JackyAlcine> Hmm, perhaps have an alternate application that modifies such settings and allow the conf read it from disk or some alternative location?
[00:27] <AlanBell> meh
[00:27] <AlanBell> there are parameters to put in the curl string
[00:28] <pleia2> AlanBell: ok, I'll write up a draft post once I get the loco directory link :)
[00:28] <AlanBell> like $volume $language etc
[00:28] <AlanBell> $voice
[00:28] <AlanBell> I just have not figured them out yet
[00:28] <AlanBell> pleia2: that would be wonderful
[00:28] <JackyAlcine> Hmm, I'll see what I can do tonight into tomorrow night over here then.
[00:28] <paul_h> AlanBell: thanks. very nice :) are they free?
[00:29] <JackyAlcine> But good work, AlanBell 
[00:29] <AlanBell> thanks JackyAlcine 
[00:29] <JackyAlcine> paul_h, every single one of them are free.
[00:29] <AlanBell> paul_h: they are an assortment of different kinds of free
[00:29] <AlanBell> I don't have any mbrola voices loaded because a) they are crap and b) they are not very nice
[00:30] <AlanBell> and c) they are not free enough
[00:30] <AlanBell> a) and b) were kind of the same weren't they
[00:30]  * AlanBell drinks coffee
[00:35] <paul_h> AlanBell: crap and not very nice are closely related :)
[00:50] <AlanBell> If I hadn't been at a release party I would be making more sense
[02:52] <Pendulum> maco: awesome :)
[03:52] <Pendulum> pleia2: did you ever get an answer about the exhibition and blog?
[03:53] <Fudge> hi does anybody know how i can change the name of an icon on a panel?
[03:56] <TheMuso> Fudge: Depends on what the icon is for/does.
[03:57] <TheMuso> Fudge: If its a launcher, you should be able to navigate to it on the panel, open the context menu i.e shift + f10, and change the name in the properties.
[03:59] <Fudge> jsut has move remove lock to panel, no properties. its a menu
[03:59] <Fudge> trying to rename menu to mint-menu
[04:00] <TheMuso> Right, so you'd have to hack the code that is responsible for that applet.
[04:00] <TheMuso> Since its not a launcher icon.
[04:11] <Fudge> cant find it, oh well
[05:46] <will_> anyone know what channel i can find screenlet info in
[05:46] <will_> im looking to change screenlets units to farenhiet not celsius
[10:59] <fregl> maco: this is not true. QAccessible as frame work is needed independent of the bridges since Qt is cross platform. <maco> support for AT-SPI2 was in the works but AT-SPI2 got so behind that Qt people just went and made their own framework (QAccessible) which KAccessible uses
[14:10] <maco> fregl: but on linux is that how it works?
[14:12] <maco> fregl: im getting confused, sorry :(
[14:13] <maco> fregl: oh, it was KAccessible that was "oh lets stop waiting"
[14:13] <maco> from what sebastian sauer said. 
[15:25] <fregl> maco: KAccessible is using QAccessible, just like the at-spi2 bridge, yes
[17:15] <pleia2> Pendulum: yeah, AlanBell said it would be good, I have a loco directory entry now from -hu so I'll write some stuff up later
[19:14] <pleia2> loco directory entry for Invisible Exhibition: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/949/detail/ :)
[19:18] <Pendulum> pleia2: awesome!
[19:18] <pleia2> the only tricky thing is we need to arrange things ahead of time, so we need a vague idea of how many are coming the friday before UDS, and a final list so we can buy tickets monday evening at UDS
[19:20] <Pendulum> pleia2: either I can give you access to the blog or you can e-mail something to me or AlanBell ( AlanBell may be better if it's not done tonight because tomorrow I start almost 24 hours of travel)
[19:21] <pleia2> Pendulum: I'll draft up something this evening and email it to both of you :)