[04:32] <somethinginteres> friend is complaining that Unity is slow on his laptop how can he install Unity 2D stable? 
[05:10] <ikt> how did everyones upgrade go?
[05:13] <somethinginteres> ikt: in progress. Gotta back everything up now :) 
[05:41] <ikt> nice
[05:41] <ikt> brb
[06:05] <somethinginteres> ikt: I forgot my internet is super slow. Just gonna d/l it at the Elephant
[06:08] <ikt> wish I could go, flat broke ftl :/
[06:08]  * ikt continues searching seek for more jobs to send cv to
[06:10] <somethinginteres> ikt: bummer. 
[06:11] <ikt> it's amazing how many entry level jobs want exchange and active directory support
[06:12] <ikt> Part of me is going to hate supporting it, but it can't be that hard
[06:15] <somethinginteres> ikt: I have no idea about either of those :) 
[09:14] <somethinginteres> at The Elephant for the release party, so far party of two :P
[09:27] <head_victim> I've rsynced again tonight, so I have a full repository. Would anyone be interested in me bringing that on external USB to the Brisbane release party?
[10:15] <head_victim> Is Nathaniel in here?
[10:27] <head_victim> Oh if anyone is interested there is a REALLY beta help guide for unity currently at http://doc.ubuntu.com/~mdke/natty/
[10:27] <bradm> head_victim: how are you enjoying unity? :)
[10:27] <head_victim> bradm: I will find out when I install it *whistles*
[10:28] <head_victim> This cycle I've been crazy busy with work, job hunting and other real life stuff so testing went out the window :/
[10:28] <head_victim> This PC I'm about to update actually is Lubuntu
[10:28] <bradm> ahh, right
[10:28] <head_victim> My real Ubuntu is only 10.04 I think but I'm not certain what it is :/
[10:29] <head_victim> The about says it's 10.04
[10:29] <head_victim> So an upgrade to 11.04 would be trickier
[10:31] <bradm> my laptop has done lucid -> maverick -> natty, all going thru the beta cycles as well
[10:32] <head_victim> Yeah, I wonder if 10.04 > 11.04 is possible without 10.10
[10:35] <bradm> I thought it was supported to just go one, not sure
[10:37] <head_victim> Yeah that's what I was worried about
[10:37] <blahdeblah> I'm pretty sure 10.04 > 11.04 is not supported
[10:37] <blahdeblah> You might get it to work by running the upgrade manually rather than using the scripts, but if it breaks, you would have to muck about with fixing it manually.
[10:40] <head_victim> blahdeblah: yeah I might wait until I have plenty of time for that one
[10:40] <bradm> if it breaks you'll get to keep both pieces
[10:40] <head_victim> bradm: hahah thanks?
[10:40] <blahdeblah> bradm: You get that anyway, no matter what upgrade you do.
[10:40] <bradm> blahdeblah: indeed.  unless you give us money I guess
[10:41] <blahdeblah> head_victim: I've usually found that upgrading two releases in quick succession is not a big problem.
[10:41] <head_victim> blahdeblah: yeah I"ve never upgraded though, I usually just wait for a hardware failure and fresh install
[10:41] <bradm> other than the bandwidth requirements I guess
[10:41] <head_victim> bradm: I have a local copy of the entire Ubuntu repository on the lan here ;)
[10:42] <blahdeblah> head_victim: You took the words right out of my mouth. ;-)
[10:42] <bradm> well, there you go
[10:42] <head_victim> blahdeblah: which ones?
[10:42] <bradm> I just use my ISP's mirror
[10:42] <head_victim> bradm: I love aarnet and telstra
[10:42] <head_victim> I decided to see if telstra would complain about it if I downloaded 600 gb of unmetered data in 2 days. Never heard a word.
[10:42] <blahdeblah> I love AARNet; Telstra - not so much.  :-P
[10:43] <head_victim> blahdeblah and I were working on a project that one day would have a use for a local lan repository, it's still to happen
[10:43] <blahdeblah> project is a bit of an overstatement...
[10:43] <blahdeblah> idea, perhaps
[10:43] <head_victim> blahdeblah: heh well idea then. It will happen, just a matter of when
[10:46] <bradm> cool
[10:46] <bradm> I can't justify mirroring it locally for 2 machines, easier to just use my ISP's mirror which is free traffic
[10:46] <head_victim> bradm: it was more a "I wonder if this will get me in trouble" thing to start with.
[10:48] <head_victim> And was curious how quick I could download stuff over sustained periods
[10:48] <bradm> nice.
[10:49] <head_victim> I sustained 20GB an hour via rsync
[10:51] <bradm> not too shabby
[10:55] <head_victim> Unfortunately aarnet seem to be about the only site to max that out though
[10:55] <Bulldog2010> hey all i have a scanner error in 11.04 worked fine in 10.10 who should i report it to please
[10:56] <head_victim> Bulldog2010: hey, what sort of scanner and what sort of error?
[10:56] <Bulldog2010> brother 
[10:56] <Bulldog2010> Lintian check results for /tmp/brscan2-0.2.5-1.amd64.deb:
[10:56] <Bulldog2010> E: brscan2: maintainer-address-missing Brother Industries, Ltd.
[10:56] <Bulldog2010> Error: Failed to open 'brother2:bus6;dev1':Invalid arguement.
[10:57] <Bulldog2010> thats all the inf ive got
[10:57] <head_victim> What model of Brother?
[10:57] <Bulldog2010> mfc 210c
[11:02] <head_victim> Bulldog2010: sorry still looking around a bit for you
[11:03] <head_victim> Bulldog2010: http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/5976666/the_retail_detail_brother_releases.html is the best I can find other than that I'd think about filing a bug on launchpad
[11:07] <head_victim> Bulldog2010: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=590793 has some pointers (just start on the last page or you'll be reading 4 year old information on the front)
[11:09] <Bulldog2010> ok thanks mate
[11:09] <head_victim> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/brother-lpr-drivers-extra that would be the place to log a bug if all else fails
[11:47] <head_victim> Bulldog2010: did any of that work?
[11:49] <hot_wheelz> anyone elese notice that packages seem to fail to install via s\w centre or is it just me?
[11:49] <Bulldog2010> na
[11:49] <Bulldog2010> yea me too
[11:50] <head_victim> Since you upgraded?
[11:50] <hot_wheelz> head_victim yeah
[11:50] <Bulldog2010> i did a complete reinstall
[11:50] <Bulldog2010> thats where i got the first error
[11:51] <hot_wheelz> i installeed from iso
[11:51] <Bulldog2010> yea me to
[11:51] <hot_wheelz> Bulldog2010 did it fail then
[11:51] <Bulldog2010> yea
[11:52] <hot_wheelz> what's up guys
[11:53] <sagaci> unity looks great on a 24" monitor
[11:53] <head_victim> sagaci: any idea on the software center issues?
[11:53] <Bulldog2010> followed the instructions on the brother web site worked perfect installing the .deb files in 10.10 come 11.04 .deb files seam to comtain an error but they are the same file
[11:54] <head_victim> hot_wheelz & Bulldog2010 it's not just because there's too many people hammering the servers and it's taking a while?
[11:55] <hot_wheelz> head_victim ubuntu-restricted hplip and skype just to name a few all fail via s\w centre
[11:55] <Bulldog2010> na  im using the s\w center to install the .deb files but it says there is a error in the file
[11:55] <head_victim> hot_wheelz: what sort of error?
[11:56] <Bulldog2010> Lintian check results for /tmp/brscan2-0.2.5-1.amd64.deb:
[11:56] <Bulldog2010> E: brscan2: maintainer-address-missing Brother Industries, Ltd.
[11:56] <hot_wheelz> just like package failed to install
[11:58] <hot_wheelz> Bulldog2010 right?
[11:58] <Bulldog2010> right
[11:58] <head_victim> Bulldog2010: sorry I can only suggest having a google, I've not seen that sort of error before.
[11:59] <Bulldog2010> it only happens with 11.04
[11:59] <head_victim> hot_wheelz: if it's just timing out it might be the servers are overloaded, I'd suggest pointing to a local mirror
[11:59] <Bulldog2010> worked fine in 10.10
[12:00] <hot_wheelz> head_victim like iinet rather than the main server?
[12:00] <head_victim> Bulldog2010: yeah sorry, I really don't know unless someone else has had issues like ti and posted them online
[12:00] <head_victim> hot_wheelz: exactly
[12:00] <hot_wheelz> ok
[12:01] <hot_wheelz> head_victim i'll report back shortly
[12:01] <hot_wheelz> head_victim one other thing
[12:02] <head_victim> hot_wheelz: shoot, I have to head off REALLY soon
[12:02] <head_victim> :D
[12:02] <hot_wheelz> should i install the nvidia 3d or normal drivers
[12:03] <head_victim> I generally use nvidia proprietary drivers 
[12:03] <hot_wheelz> propriety
[12:03] <head_victim> Others might suggest otherwise but I've found them the best to "Just work"
[12:03] <hot_wheelz> head_victim ok
[12:04] <head_victim> Ok well I have to head off for the evening, I'll hopefully see some of you tomorrow at the Brisbane release party :)
[12:04] <hot_wheelz> head_victim see ya
[12:20] <hot_wheelz> Bulldog2010
[12:21] <hot_wheelz> what head_victim suggested about changing the mirror worked for me :-)
[12:21] <sagaci> i'm getting an error too
[12:22] <Bulldog2010> yea mate
[12:22] <sagaci> not that one
[12:23] <sagaci> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600684/
[12:50] <Bulldog2010> help 
[12:50] <Bulldog2010> how do i remove a bug from launchpad please
[12:51] <Bulldog2010> moved to au-chat
[16:09] <Nozy> will update to 11.04
[16:09] <Nozy> works ok 
[16:12] <somethinginteres> Nozy: I like it. I would recommend reading the usability benchmark results from April 2011 to avoid some common confusion http://design.canonical.com/2011/04/unity-benchmark-usability-april-2011/
[16:12] <somethinginteres> Nozy: e.g. System Settings can be accessed from the "Power" menu
[16:14] <Nozy> is that was its call Power Menu 
[16:14] <Nozy> its  a nice change 
[16:30] <Nozy> I like it 
[17:15] <juzzy__> hey, ive updated to 11.04 - how may I place a my old weather widget dock thing onto the upper bar again??
[21:59] <juzzy_> HELP! all my file folder try to open with gedit text editor!
[22:50] <head_victim> juzzy_: did you get it sorted? If not have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1690531 which should help
[22:51] <head_victim> Aw :/