[02:10] <johnny77> When I log into XFCE, nautilus is loaded. Can someone help me figure out why?
[02:11] <holstein> interesting
[02:12] <holstein> johnny77: did you get the metapackage ?
[02:12] <holstein> xubuntu-desktop or whatever
[02:12] <holstein> either way, check in the startup sessions or whatever its called
[02:12] <holstein> you might have to try #xubuntu
[02:12] <johnny77> holstein: no, I think I just installed XFCE.
[02:12] <holstein> i forget what those settings are
[02:49] <bin1010> howdy all
[02:49] <bin1010> I am trying to play with Ruby on rails
[02:49] <bin1010> my bundle install seems to fail for all gems that need native interface....what gives?  I am on ubuntu 10.10 32bit with ruby-all installed ruby 1.9.2 via rvm, rails 3.0.5, and gems 1.7.2
[02:49] <bin1010> currently I get Could not find RedCloth-4.2.7 in any of the sources
[02:49] <holstein> i had a fried do a presentation at our local LUG on ruby on rails
[02:50] <bin1010> but if i comment out in Gemfile, I get Could not find SystemTimer in any of the sources
[02:50] <bin1010> and if I comment that out, i get another one
[02:50] <holstein> bin1010: where are you getting ruby?
[02:50] <bin1010> so it seems to be the ones that are compiled to native....but I have the ruby-all package installed
[02:50] <holstein> is this fromt he repos?
[02:50] <bin1010> originally yes, then i was told to use rvm
[02:51] <holstein> bin1010: how did the one from the repos work?
[02:51] <holstein> usually with buntu, i try and get PPA's when possible
[02:51] <bin1010> it didn't work with rails 3.0....
[02:51] <holstein> interesting
[02:52] <holstein> the guy in my LUG actually did the presentation on a mac
[02:52] <bin1010> it said it needed a version of ruby slightly > than repos ruby
[02:52] <holstein> he's not on the IRC anyways...
[02:52] <bin1010> I could try ppa, I guess
[02:52] <holstein> it wouldnt hurt*
[02:52] <bin1010> ppa for ruby-all
[02:53] <holstein> they make fun of you in #rubyonrails?
[02:53] <holstein> or is it just dead?
[02:53] <bin1010> very dead....
[02:53] <bin1010> and they are very elite
[02:54] <bin1010> remind me of perl IRC
[02:54] <bin1010> LOL
[02:54] <holstein> http://toranbillups.com/blog/archive/2010/09/01/How-to-install-Rails-3.0-and-Ruby-1.9.2-on-Ubuntu
[02:54] <holstein> ^ does that look like what you did?
[02:55] <bin1010> pretty close, yeah
[02:55] <holstein> i would say, try and get your error messages over in a pastebin
[02:55] <holstein> and...
[02:55] <holstein> maybe one of the -dev channels?
[02:55] <bin1010> gotcha
[02:55] <bin1010> I will try that
[02:55] <holstein> not really sure where to send you
[02:55] <bin1010> no worries bud
[02:56] <holstein> bin1010: mabye your loco team?
[02:56] <bin1010> don't have one...trying to be first to learn
[02:56] <holstein> http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[02:56] <bin1010> some fun its been so far...... LOL!
[02:56] <holstein> that presentation made ruby seem very nice
[02:56] <bin1010> wow that is new
[02:56] <holstein> i didnt get to do any of it on my own
[02:57] <holstein> there were linux ruby guys there
[02:57] <holstein> and apparently, theres a local ruby meeting
[02:57] <bin1010> that is cool
[02:57] <bin1010> thought you meant local company....LOL
[02:58] <holstein> yeah, loco team
[02:58] <holstein> mine is #ubuntu-us-nc
[02:59] <bin1010> mine is #ubuntu-us-tx
[02:59] <holstein> hey, i bet that one is active
[02:59] <holstein> just because of the size :)
[03:00] <holstein> more quare footage per loco
[03:00] <bin1010> 11 including log and channel
[03:00] <bin1010> :)
[03:00] <holstein> thats not bad
[03:00] <holstein> theres usually around 10 in mine
[03:04] <helpme> can someone help me?
[03:05] <helpme> my audio and sometimes in video on 10.10 stutters
[05:53] <eiriksvin> yay, guess who finnaly has his own ubuntu working online!
[05:55] <nit-wit> you... you... you do.........
[05:58] <eiriksvin> weee
[05:59] <eiriksvin> there had to restart xchat... setings update
[06:05] <eiriksvin> question is it ok to install the missing plugins for pandora.com?
[06:30] <eiriksvin> is it cool to download the Adobe Flash plugin from the Ubuntu Software center?
[06:33] <nit-wit>   eiriksvin have you installed the restricted extras
[06:36] <eiriksvin> uh no
[06:36] <eiriksvin> i just want to listen to pandora.com
[06:37] <eiriksvin> my ubuntu is fresh, and im a noob for the most part
[06:37] <bioterror> !cli | eiriksvin
[06:37] <ubot2> eiriksvin: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro
[06:38] <bioterror> eiriksvin, open terminal and type: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:38] <eiriksvin> um, whats that do?
[06:38] <bioterror> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/
[06:38] <eiriksvin> looking now
[06:44] <eiriksvin> awesome, how do i do that for 10.10?
[06:44] <eiriksvin> use the sudo?
[06:44] <bioterror> yes
[06:44] <eiriksvin> thanx!
[06:46] <eiriksvin> will that all work for amd64?
[06:46] <bioterror> ofcourse
[06:46] <bioterror> sudo apt-get update
[06:46] <bioterror>  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[06:46] <bioterror> those two commands
[06:46] <bioterror> !apt-get | eiriksvin
[06:46] <ubot2> eiriksvin: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)
[06:47] <eiriksvin> oh sweet
[06:47] <eiriksvin> should i have done the update first?
[06:47] <eiriksvin> cus its to late now
[06:47] <bioterror> well
[06:47] <bioterror> it would be good, but doesnt really matter
[06:48] <eiriksvin> would that give me 11.04?
[06:56] <bioterror> no
[06:56] <bioterror> if you want to upgrade your 10.10 to 11.04, you have to say: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[07:13] <eiriksvin> brb
[07:24] <geekboy> what happened to startup applications in 11.04?
[07:25] <halpbatman> hey guys I removed my linux partition and now I get "error: no such partition" how do I restore windows 7 bootloader?
[07:27] <coalwater_away> theres a whole article about that on the forums try looking at http://ubuntuforums.org/
[07:30] <halpbatman> coalwater: I've been reading.. and they require windows dvd, access to internets on the problem computer I have none..
[07:31] <coalwater> no no, u can fix it with a linux live cd
[07:31] <coalwater> and internet ..
[07:32] <halpbatman> yeah interwebs which I doesn't have on that machine cause the wireless card isn't supported from the live cd
[07:33] <coalwater> does this help halpbatman  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1359802&highlight=restoring+windows+bootloader
[07:33] <halpbatman> I saw that one too
[07:33] <halpbatman> didn't work
[07:33] <halpbatman> says
[07:34] <halpbatman> makeactive
[07:34] <halpbatman> isn't a command
[07:36] <coalwater> do u have like a usb thumb drive or any similar way to move files?
[07:36] <halpbatman> yeah im looking for one
[07:36] <halpbatman> i think i found a solution
[07:36] <halpbatman> brb
[07:36] <coalwater> u could download this lilo thing, i used it before
[07:36] <halpbatman> im downloading syslinux
[07:36] <coalwater> and move it's deb to the live cd on the bad computer
[07:45] <eiriksvin> bioterror> i got all of that, but how do i accept the agreement... where it says <OK> at the bottom of the screen
[07:45] <bioterror> with tabkey
[07:45] <bioterror> ofcourse ;D
[07:45] <eiriksvin> doh!
[07:45] <eiriksvin> thanx:)
[07:47] <eiriksvin> do i need wine to run any of that?
[07:47] <bioterror> no?
[07:47] <eiriksvin> ok.. just asking cus i saw it installing a bunch of .exe files
[07:47] <bioterror> ahhh
[07:47] <bioterror> it just installed fonts
[07:47] <bioterror> :D
[07:48] <halpbatman> coalwater: when i try to install lilo it says dependency is not satisfiable
[07:48] <eiriksvin> ok
[07:48] <eiriksvin> does this mean its done?
[07:48] <eiriksvin> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[07:48] <eiriksvin> eiriksvin@ubuntu:~$
[07:49] <eiriksvin> where i can do stuff at the prompt now?
[07:50] <bioterror> ?
[07:52] <eiriksvin> its at the prompt where i can do stuff like: eiriksvin@ubuntu:~$  lsusb
[07:52] <eiriksvin> if i wanted to
[07:53] <eiriksvin> i just want to know if its ok to close the terminal yet
[07:54] <bioterror> yes it is
[07:54] <bioterror> you can press ctrl+d
[07:54] <bioterror> ;)
[07:55] <eiriksvin> thanx
[07:55] <eiriksvin> imma noob, cant u tell
[07:55] <eiriksvin> heh
[09:22] <Blakviper> ne1, i've just downloaded ubuntu, and installed it into my usb drive, it won't boot from there, so I try installing wubi, but it won't install it, it gives me an error message
[09:23] <Blakviper> Exception processing message c0000013 parameters 75b1bf7c ....
[09:29] <Blakviper> nevermind, found a way around it.
[10:09] <kristian_> my flash crashes whenever I've seen a few vids, what to do?
[10:09] <kristian_> this is lubuntu 10.10... flash seems to be newest version
[10:10] <bioterror> test with another browser
[12:23] <coalwater> can any body tell me the swap line in the /etc/fstab because apparently mine doesn't work
[12:24] <bioterror> UUID=bfe9db7b-bab3-4d2c-a489-31505cf4f9c8 swap swap defaults 0 0
[12:25] <bioterror> I have that kind
[12:26] <coalwater> do i need to put the uuid, cant i say like a path /dev/sda[number] ?
[12:28] <bioterror> UUID = future
[12:28] <bioterror> :D
[12:28] <bioterror> but sure you can say your desired device
[12:29] <coalwater> what do u mean = future, is that a new fstab format they did ?
[12:29] <bioterror> well
[12:30] <bioterror> it just works better than the devices
[12:30] <bioterror> if you will notice it if you have to play with disks :D
[12:30] <bioterror> (PATA & SATA disks ;)
[12:30] <coalwater> i've restarted and i hope it works
[12:31] <coalwater> o look, a nice and working new swap lol
[12:35] <MrChrisDruif> Great :)
[13:09] <aztek> hai duanedesign..
[13:09] <aztek> how are you?
[13:58] <rokyronnie> some help with ALSA ?
[14:00] <coz_> rokyronnie,   well I am not exactly an expert with alsa,, but,, what s the issue?
[14:01] <rokyronnie> when a song it's changing in audacious my subwoofer sound goes down
[14:01] <rokyronnie> I need to change on something different and then go back to ALSA surround 5.1 output to have signal in subwoofer again
[14:02] <coz_> rokyronnie,  ooo,,, that one sounds like a issue the people in  the #alsa  or #pulseaudio channels should address
[14:02] <rokyronnie> oh well, thank you :)
[14:03] <coz_> rokyronnie,   its a setting I am sure  but your best bet would be to join both of those channels
[14:03] <coz_> rokyronnie,   I doubt it is an Ubuntu specific issue
[14:06] <rokyronnie> can you give me a good ppa for gyachi?
[14:11] <coz_> rokyronnie,  are you on ubuntu 10.10  or 11.04
[14:11] <rokyronnie> 11.04
[14:12] <coz_> rokyronnie, ok let me check ,, hold on
[14:13] <coz_> rokyronnie,    http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-gyachi-on-ubuntu-11-04-natty-using-ppa.html
[14:22] <rokyronnie> coz_: thank you
[14:23] <coz_> no problem
[14:40] <johnny77> I just installed 11.04 and now I think something is messed up. I have two options for Ubuntu: Ubuntu & Ubuntu Classic. Ubuntu Classic is like 10.10. But Ubuntu only loads the desktop, no panels no menu. Is this right?
[14:40] <Guest73628> hi all! any idea how can i make my laptop keyboard backlight work properly?
[14:41] <charlie-tca> joy
[14:41] <Guest73628> or at least how do i turn it of so to save battery
[14:41] <charlie-tca> johnny77: no, that is wrong
[14:42] <nlsthzn> johnny77: do you have a bar at the top and a bar at the left?
[14:42] <coz_> Guest15712,  no that is not right
[14:42] <charlie-tca> classic should have top and bottom panels, unity has top and left
[14:42] <coz_> Guest15712,  it should look like classic gnome
[14:42] <johnny77> I do not have any bars when I log into Ubuntu.
[14:42] <coz_> charlie-tca,  cook you are here :)   I am on way too many support channels :)
[14:43] <charlie-tca> I am going hide again :-)
[14:43] <charlie-tca> johnny77: in classic you get no panels?
[14:44] <johnny77> charlie-tca: If I log into Ubuntu classic it looks how I had it set up in 10.10. If I log into Ubuntu I get no panels
[14:45] <charlie-tca> Okay, unity is not starting. What video card do you have?
[14:45] <johnny77> not sure.
[14:46] <charlie-tca> That usually means go to classic, go to additional drivers, install the driver
[14:47] <johnny77> Some funny things are happening in classic too. I can't minimize windows.
[14:48] <johnny77> I'm not sure a window manager is being loaded with classic.
[14:49] <coz_> johnny77,   did you choose classic with or without effects?
[14:49] <johnny77> coz_: with
[14:50] <coz_> johnny77,  charlie-tca  knows his stuff,, I would listen to him :)
[14:51] <mike_1> hi all!
[14:53] <johnny77> be back in a couple minutes
[14:56] <rokyronnie> hello again, I've tried gyachi but honestly I don't like it.so my question is.. can I do something in pidgin for "photo sharing" ?
[14:59]  * charlie-tca seems to have tested too much. He should not know much about unity
[15:05] <johnny77> I'm back. I'm in XFCE session because gnome is all messed up.
[15:05] <coz_> oh!!
[15:06] <johnny77> At the login If I chose Ubuntu no panels are loaded. If I choose Ubuntu classic the panels are loaded, but it appears no Window Manager is.
[15:06] <duanedesign> rokyronnie: you are using fspot or pidgin?
[15:06] <rokyronnie> pidgin
[15:06] <rokyronnie> what is fspot?
[15:07] <duanedesign> rokyronnie: sorry I got confused
[15:08]  * nlsthzn was also confused
[15:08] <duanedesign> which is not harrd
[15:08] <duanedesign> :)
[15:09] <MrChrisDruif> fspot is the image editor if I'm not mistaken
[15:09] <duanedesign> We were talking about photos so i was thinking fspot/shotwell
[15:09] <rokyronnie> oh well :)
[15:09] <duanedesign> rokyronnie: anyway to your question
[15:09] <rokyronnie> yes :D
[15:10] <duanedesign> rokyronnie: you should be able to add an instant messaging account that supports file transfers and picture sharing, like AIM, Yahoo, MSN or gTalk
[15:11] <rokyronnie> I've an yahoo account and it works
[15:12] <rokyronnie> but I can't figure out how to do photo sharing
[15:12] <duanedesign> rokyronnie: then you should be able to open a chat with someone then drag and drop a picture from Nautilus to the chat window
[15:12] <rokyronnie> in gyachi it works very well but I really really really don't like it :|
[15:12] <rokyronnie> yes
[15:12] <rokyronnie>  am
[15:12] <rokyronnie> and it ask me for sending it or put it as my avatar or something like that
[15:13] <rokyronnie> but theres nothing about photo sharing
[15:13] <duanedesign> that is it. To share it with the person you select send
[15:14] <duanedesign> rokyronnie: are you wanting to create a public URL for a photo?
[15:14] <rokyronnie> no.just photo sharing like it is in yahoo
[15:14] <rokyronnie> I discovered something, the Send To button it's not accesible
[15:14] <rokyronnie> I can't press it
[15:16] <rokyronnie> I can't do audio or video call to
[15:16] <rokyronnie> is my version old ?  2.7.11
[15:18] <johnny77> Is there anyway I can go back to 10.10!?!?!
[15:19] <holstein> johnny77: sure, but you wont like it :/
[15:19] <rokyronnie> why do you want to go back to 10.10?
[15:19] <johnny77> 11.04 has fucked my system up.
[15:20] <holstein> rokyronnie: photosharing?
[15:20] <rokyronnie> yes
[15:20] <holstein> http://holstein.shacknet.nu/dropbox/
[15:20] <holstein> i use dropbox
[15:20] <holstein> shares whatever i want
[15:20] <holstein> with other dropbox users, or non-users
[15:21] <MrChrisDruif> :)
[15:22] <duanedesign> rokyronnie: i think that is the most recent version of pidgin
[15:22] <rokyronnie> hmm that's not what I want, I don't even know 1 person who use this :))
[15:22] <holstein> rokyronnie: uses what?
[15:22] <rokyronnie> but thanks for advice :)
[15:22] <holstein> dropbox?
[15:22] <rokyronnie> dropbox
[15:22] <holstein> thats what i am implying
[15:22] <duanedesign> rokyronnie: are you wanting album sharing like flikr or picassa?
[15:22] <holstein> the other user doesnt need to use it
[15:22] <rokyronnie> oh no
[15:22] <holstein> theres a video
[15:22] <holstein> you get a public link
[15:22] <holstein> and drop it to whoever
[15:22] <holstein> where ever
[15:22] <rokyronnie> yahoo photo sharing
[15:23] <holstein> and they DL it
[15:23] <holstein> and it can be whatever kind of file
[15:23] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[15:23] <rokyronnie> yahyydfasthat's what I want
[15:23] <rokyronnie> http://www.altafsayani.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/yahoo-9_flickrphotoshare.png
[15:23] <rokyronnie> something like that
[15:23] <holstein> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1172535/groove.ogg
[15:24] <holstein> ^ for example
[15:24] <holstein> tdn: maybe try the other driver
[15:25] <holstein> did you find a bug report about it?
[15:25] <rokyronnie> yeah I know... if we taken like this, I can upload my pictures on a hundred of websites, but all I want is to show tham directly in my messeanger window as you can do it on yahoo
[15:26] <holstein> right
[15:26] <holstein> you can link a dropbox link
[15:26] <duanedesign> rokyronnie: so the feature in pidgin is what you want it is just not working?
[15:26] <holstein> where ever
[15:27] <holstein> and you dont upload it online
[15:27] <holstein> you just put it in a directory on your machine
[15:27] <holstein> and the rest is quite seemless
[15:27] <holstein> but, im not trying to sell you anything
[15:27] <holstein> its just one of my favorite pieces of software
[15:27] <holstein> that has made life easier
[15:28] <duanedesign> you can get public URLs from Ubuntu One as well
[15:28] <holstein> YEAH
[15:28] <holstein> thats true
[15:28] <holstein> ubuntuone might be working well now
[15:28] <holstein> i got in dropbox before ubuntuone really hit
[15:29] <duanedesign> holstein: yeah the first release of U1 was pretty rough. the Natty version is much better
[15:30] <duanedesign> rokyronnie: i read a user say "Sometimes the options to insert an image from the "Conversation" menu or the "Insert" menu are greyed out. That does not mean you cannot send an image. The drag-and-drop option still works."
[15:32] <MournsForTrees> Hello. Can anyone recommend a good program to monitor hardware temperature?
[15:33] <holstein> MournsForTrees: are you in 11.04?
[15:33] <holstein> unity?
[15:34] <rokyronnie> yeah I know sending imeage works :P, but what I wanted it's something different
[15:34] <MournsForTrees> Not yet. 10.10. Will update soon, but I had a problem with overheating I think was solved, except I can't know in Ubuntu.
[15:34] <MournsForTrees> Something like the applet that shows memory/processor usage would be great...
[15:35] <MournsForTrees> Otherwise, any program. Like the Windows program SpeedFan, that'd be better yet.
[15:35] <coalwater> u can put the system monitor on ur top panel
[15:35] <holstein> MournsForTrees: its fine to stay where you are
[15:35] <holstein> i just wanted to point you to the proper applet
[15:36] <coalwater> it doesnt say heat though
[15:36] <MournsForTrees> I have the system monitor already. I can't go back to not having it. It's too useful!
[15:37] <rokyronnie> something like speedfan I want too :D
[15:37] <holstein> you cant tell the sytem monitot to show CPU temp?
[15:37] <duanedesign> acpi -t
[15:37] <MournsForTrees> I will update after a few days, just in case sudden errors appear. So a Gnome program would be great.
[15:38] <duanedesign> ^^that command will show the CPU Temp
[15:38] <MournsForTrees> Great. Thanks. That's a start. Is there also a program to check the HDDs and GPU?
[15:39] <MournsForTrees> I was days locked out of my Ubuntu, forced to dual boot, as everything collapsed if I tried to use it. Windows wasn't much better, though.
[15:40] <MournsForTrees> duanedesign: I just tried that command, but nothing happened!
[15:40] <rokyronnie> acpi -t?
[15:42] <duanedesign> MournsForTrees: ahh, i guess acpi is in Universe now. You will have to install it.  sudo apt-get install acpi
[15:42] <MournsForTrees> I did install it.
[15:42] <rokyronnie> I installed but nothing happens with acpi -t
[15:42] <MournsForTrees> Well, acpi alone returns this: "No support for device type: power_supply"
[15:43] <MournsForTrees> I can get temp stats in Windows, so it can't be the hardware, right?
[15:43] <duanedesign> try:  acpi -V
[15:43] <duanedesign> capital V. that shows everything
[15:44] <duanedesign> their is an app called xsensors
[15:44] <rokyronnie> with graphical interface?
[15:45] <duanedesign> yes
[15:45] <MournsForTrees> It returns the same text twice, then Cooling 0: processor 0 or 3. then another one that says cooling 1 and the same text. what's that?
[15:46] <duanedesign> cooling is the fan
[15:47] <MournsForTrees> *sorry, it was "0 of 3"
[15:47] <MournsForTrees> I see.
[15:47] <duanedesign> I also use  lm-sensors
[15:47] <MournsForTrees> Also, I *think* I heard someone tell me of a program called hlm-sensor or something similar, supposedly for linux, is that a real thing?
[15:47] <rokyronnie> uh thank you, xsensors looks pretty good
[15:48] <rokyronnie> ok but... in speedfan I used to take down my CPU FAN with 50%, can I do this here?
[15:50] <antiphysicist> hi, I can't get eclipse-pydev working, I install eclipse then install pydev from inside eclipse, it comes up as installed but no tab appears for it, if I try to install pydev from the terminal I do it wrong somehow because I get "package not found"
[15:55] <holstein> antiphysicist: is it python-dev - Header files and a static library for Python (default) ?
[15:57] <antiphysicist> holstein: sorry I'm not sure I understand your question, I am trying to install an extension(?) for eclipse which is specifically for python, sorry for my ignorance
[15:58] <holstein> antiphysicist: no, im just looking for that package name - pydev
[15:58] <holstein> im not sure what you are looking for
[15:58] <holstein> but, python-dev is all i found
[15:59] <duanedesign> MrChrisDruif: rokyronnie this wiki page might be usefull:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[15:59] <holstein> i have zero experience with eclipse other than reading a man page briefly
[15:59] <MrChrisDruif> ??
[15:59] <holstein> MournsForTrees: ^^
[15:59] <MrChrisDruif> xD
[15:59] <duanedesign> :P
[16:00] <duanedesign> thanks holstein
[16:00] <holstein> tab-complete fail :)
[16:00] <MournsForTrees> Great!
[16:00] <MrChrisDruif> But I don't mind duanedesign, I'll check it out :)
[16:00] <MournsForTrees> Thanks. I'll check it now.
[16:01] <duanedesign> i would avoid ksensors unless you are on Natty or KDE. It will take the QT libraries. Which is not a big deal really, they are not that big
[16:08] <MournsForTrees> Great! Now xsensors displays more information.
[16:08] <MournsForTrees> so, everything is around 38C
[16:09] <MournsForTrees> It's better than when it was over 50 or 60C. Now is there a reason some text appears in green and some in red in xsensors?
[17:15] <juzzy__> hey, ive updated to 11.04 - how may I place a my old weather widget dock thing onto the upper bar again??
[17:18] <holstein> juzzy__: you must move forward
[17:18] <holstein> try checking for weather applets in unity :)
[17:19] <holstein> OR, you can go back to gnome
[17:19] <holstein> classic desktop*
[17:19] <holstein> AFAIK those are your options
[17:23] <MrsHillBilly> holstein
[17:24] <MrsHillBilly> Anyone help me with a printer please?
[17:25] <holstein> MrsHillBilly: you should just be able to plug it in
[17:25] <holstein> while you are online
[17:25] <holstein> what happens?
[17:26] <MrsHillBilly> holstein. When I try to print a document it just says processing but nothing else happens
[17:27] <holstein> MrsHillBilly: try forcing another driver
[17:27] <holstein> either a version up or down
[17:27] <holstein> MrsHillBilly: did it print a test page?
[17:27] <MrsHillBilly> holstein. No test page. How do I force another driver?
[17:53] <holstein> MrsHillBilly: sorry, i got busy
[17:53] <holstein> i'll bbl though :)
[17:56] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[17:57] <tdn> holstein, which other drivers are there? I see no other. How do I get more drivers?
[18:46] <rokyronnie> can someone told me a good archive tool ?
[18:46] <rokyronnie> something like "right click-->archive" would be great
[18:47] <aetaric> does anyone know how to get the NVidia drivers to activate?
[18:47] <coalwater> there's already 'compress'
[18:47] <coalwater> rokyronnie: ^
[18:48] <rokyronnie> oops, my mistake, yeah, there is something :))
[18:55] <aetaric> does anyone know how to get the NVidia drivers to activate? i've installed them but i still can't use unity
[18:55] <rokyronnie> system-administrations-aditional drivers
[18:55] <rokyronnie> click on the newest version and then click activate
[18:56] <rokyronnie> after that, you'll need to restart the machine
[18:56] <holstein> aetaric: you might not get 3d with it
[18:56] <Mjiig> hello, trying to do a "sudo do-release-upgrade" and every time i run it i get a 403 error when it tries to down load 2 particular packages
[18:56] <holstein> tdn: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx see if thats relavant
[18:56] <aetaric> 'this driver is activated but not currently in use'
[18:56] <holstein> MrsHillBilly: you should be able to go into the add printer wizard
[18:57] <holstein> and force an differnet driver
[18:57] <holstein> but, i only have experience with 10.04 and printing :)
[18:57] <Mjiig> xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-750dpi
[18:57] <holstein> i would assume its similar though
[18:57] <holstein> aetaric: did you restart?
[18:57] <aetaric> holstein, yes
[18:57] <holstein> aetaric: nvidia?
[18:57] <aetaric> holstein, yes
[18:58] <holstein> check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[18:58] <holstein> see if that helps*
[19:00] <MrsHillBilly> holstein. Thanks but I re-booted with the printer switched off, the switched the printer on and all is ok.
[19:01] <holstein> MrsHillBilly: COOL :)
[19:04] <Froq> hello
[19:04] <Froq> I am new here....
[19:04] <Froq> Anyone else in here?!?!?!
[19:05] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:06] <holstein> lol
[19:06] <Froq> charlie-tca: are you a beginner too?
[19:07] <Froq> this room is so much quieter than the man room.
[19:07] <charlie-tca> not really a beginner.
[19:07] <Froq> oo.
[19:07] <charlie-tca> this is a support channel, we use #ubuntu-beginners-team for offtopic
[19:08] <Froq> charlie-tca: oo I wanna go there then, don't I? THANKS
[19:08] <holstein> if your new, its actually a good practice to join a channel
[19:08] <holstein> and run the command /topic
[19:08] <holstein> and check out the guidelines :)
[19:08] <Froq> holstein: thanks.
[19:21] <vheg> hi there.
[19:23] <rokyronnie> hi
[19:26] <tdn> holstein, ok
[19:26] <tdn> thanks
[20:27] <rokyronnie> can someone help me ? I try to compile something but i'm pretty newbie with this
[20:28] <bioterror> ./configure
[20:28] <bioterror> make
[20:28] <rokyronnie> yes, but when I wite make
[20:28] <rokyronnie> it sais
[20:28] <bioterror> checkinstall
[20:28] <rokyronnie> make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.
[20:28] <bioterror> hmmm
[20:28] <bioterror> what are you trying to compile+
[20:28] <bioterror> ?
[20:28] <rokyronnie> it's a pool game
[20:28] <bioterror> url to tar.gz
[20:30] <rokyronnie> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/ballsmacker/ballsmacker-1.0.0.tar.gz?use_mirror=kent
[20:30] <bioterror> configures
[20:31] <bioterror> and makes works
[20:31] <rokyronnie> hmm
[20:34] <rokyronnie> hm, there was a link when you can paste text and that I can give you a link, if you give that website to me I'll post there all I did, I mean ./compile and make to see what it's wrong
[20:35] <coz_> rokyronnie,    http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[20:36] <rokyronnie> good
[20:36] <rokyronnie> http://pastebin.com/bxHFVVsF
[20:36] <rokyronnie> this is it
[20:36] <bioterror> you're missing glib
[20:36] <rokyronnie> what's that ? :D
[20:36] <bioterror> you need glib-dev packes
[20:37] <rokyronnie> ok :)
[20:37] <bioterror> glib-2.0-dev or something
[20:37] <bioterror> you should read what it outputs to you ;)
[20:38] <rokyronnie> oh yeah, now I see :D
[20:38] <bioterror> now ballsmacker is uninstalled
[20:38] <rokyronnie> thanks :P
[20:38] <bioterror> wasnt that nice ;)
[20:38] <coz_> :)
[20:39] <rokyronnie> did you know a better pool game for linux? I tried virtual pool 3 for some hours, but it won't work anyhow with wine
[20:39] <charlie-tca> foobilliards?
[20:39] <coz_> rokyronnie,   which one do you have> billardgl is nice
[20:40] <bioterror> http://www.happypenguin.org/list?search=pool
[20:40] <rokyronnie> oh I know that one but I can't say I like it
[20:40] <coz_> ah ok
[20:40] <rokyronnie> virtual pool 3 is awesome but I can't get it to work wit wine :(
[20:41] <bioterror> billiards looks good
[20:41] <bioterror> has even multiplayer
[20:41] <coz_> rokyronnie,  look for an application named   lutris,,, not in the repository
[20:41] <rokyronnie> hmm thanks for that link bioterror :D
[20:41] <rokyronnie> there are some games
[20:41] <rokyronnie> what's lutris?
[20:41] <bioterror> you can even have .debs from their site
[20:41] <bioterror> no need to compile
[20:42] <coz_> lutris is a game thingie  I havent used it but looked at it on youtube,,,
[20:43] <coz_> be right back logging into unity
[20:47] <rokyronnie> lutris looks interesting
[20:50] <coz_> rokyronnie,  it does yes,,, but not sure what advantage it may have,, I have not tested or worked with it
[20:51] <rokyronnie> I try now to install with, but it says I must have a newer version of python ( >2.7 ) . Ok, newbie question, what's python ? it's not the first time when I hear about it but I don't know what it is :D
[20:53] <charlie-tca> python is a programming language
[20:53] <rokyronnie> oh, ok :)
[20:53] <charlie-tca> !info python
[20:53] <charlie-tca> You can use      sudo apt-get install python
[20:53] <charlie-tca> to install it
[20:54] <charlie-tca> what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[20:55] <charlie-tca> rokyronnie: Ubuntu 11.04 has python 2.7.1
[20:56] <rokyronnie> hmm, but when I try to insall lutris it says : "Dependency is not satisfiable: python (< 2.7)"
[20:56] <rokyronnie> but I installed a few versions
[20:58] <coalwater> try typing python --version
[20:58] <coz_> there may be a .deb package somewhere on line hold on
[20:59] <rokyronnie> python 2.7.1+
[20:59] <coz_> rokyronnie,  go here   http://putokaz.wordpress.com/2011/04/03/lutris-a-multi-platform-game-installer-for-linux/  and scroll down  under "Installation"  there is a link for the deb package
[21:00] <coz_> rokyronnie,  again ,, I have not  tested or tried this app
[21:02] <rokyronnie> I download it but it says the same error
[21:03] <coz_> ooo
[21:03] <coz_> rokyronnie,  let me try here hold on
[21:04] <rokyronnie> oke
[21:04] <coz_> rokyronnie,  yep errors and a sudo apt-get install -f  only removes the lutris package
[21:04] <coz_> rokyronnie,  apparenlty it cannot be installed onto natty,,, I havent tried maverick
[21:23] <tdn> I would like the default permission of files created inside my homedir to be 0600 or 0640 and dirs to be 0700 or 0740. How do I make it so?
[21:27] <mello> hi, I try to load my music library into clementine from an NTFS partition, though roughly half of the songs are not being imported.. But they are visible in rhythmbox
[21:31] <holstein> tdn: would you mind to look over http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=40617
[21:31] <holstein> its old, but see if its relavant
[21:31] <holstein> and if not, we can try again :)
[21:32] <tdn> is umask from /etc/profile honered by X programs?
[21:32] <holstein> mello: i would probbaly try adding the clementine PPA
[21:32] <holstein> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:me-davidsansome/clementine
[21:32] <holstein> and see if a newer version come in
[21:32] <holstein> with a fix
[21:32] <tdn> holstein, also, I do not use bash but zsh
[21:37] <holstein> tdn: im not sure about umask in that context
[21:37] <holstein> but i would assume so
[21:37] <holstein> i would probably want to test it
[21:37] <holstein> and see it in action one way or the other
[21:37] <tdn> holstein, the forum thread says to set umask.
[21:37] <tdn> holstein, to 007
[21:38] <holstein> tdn: did it work?
[21:38] <tdn> holstein, nope.
[21:38] <holstein> :/
[21:38] <holstein> you might have to find someone in a -devel channel
[21:39] <tdn> Really. I would think this was a pretty basic task.
[21:39] <tdn> :(
[21:39] <holstein> sure
[21:39] <holstein> you can make files of whatever permission
[21:39] <holstein> but, you want to change the default actions of the OS
[21:39] <holstein> and im not sure about that
[21:39] <holstein> since its never came up for me
[21:41] <mello> holstein: what's the easiest way in clementine to know the total number of songs in library?
[21:42] <mello> holstein i will try the ppa now..
[21:43] <tdn> holstein, no, not the default for the OS. Just the default for my user.
[21:43] <tdn> Is Clementine good?
[21:44] <tdn> Would you recommend it for someone who liked Amarok 1.4?
[21:47] <Pringle> hello
[21:47] <Pringle> I have a little question!
[21:47] <Pringle> a couple of months ago, i installed in my laptop ubuntu...
[21:47] <Pringle> ubuntu 10.10
[21:47] <Pringle> now I see that a new version is out
[21:47] <Pringle> 11.04...
[21:47] <Pringle> do I have to install everything again?? :(
[21:47] <Pringle> why I cannot update it from the internet?
[21:48] <Pringle> is there any other way tu update my 10.10 to 11.04 without installing everything again?
[21:48] <Pringle> thanks for a possible answer!
[21:48] <Pringle> (if anyone read me...)
[21:48] <Pringle> probably no one is around :(
[21:48] <Pringle> I will try another channel..........
[21:49] <tdn> holstein, it appears that it should just be set in .Xsession
[21:51] <cudif> Pringle: why dont you try the update manager
[21:51] <Pringle> I try but it doesnt do it
[21:51] <cudif> its supposed to say new distribution available and offer to upgrade it for you
[21:52] <Pringle> no, never told me anything like that
[21:52] <Pringle> i just make the usual updates like before
[21:52] <Pringle> but the version is still 10.10
[21:52] <Pringle> i dont know why :(
[21:52] <tdn> holstein, just not sure how...
[21:53] <Pringle> why there's this new version now?
[21:53] <Pringle> people told me it was supposed to get out after summer :(
[21:53] <Pringle> why so soon?
[21:53] <Pringle> 10.10 was cute...
[21:54] <tdn> Pringle, there is a release every six months.
[21:55] <tdn> Pringle, if you want something more stable, you should try Ubuntu LTS.
[21:56] <MrChrisDruif> tdn: Longer supported you mean, not necessarily more stable :)
[21:56] <Pringle> Ubuntu LTS?
[21:56] <Pringle> never heard of this...
[21:58] <Pringle> Ubuntu 10.04.2 LTS (Lucid Lynx)
[21:58] <Pringle> you mean..that one?
[21:58] <MrChrisDruif> Pringle: Yup
[21:59] <Pringle> MrChrisDruif, would you suggest LTS more than the official version on the main site,
[21:59] <Pringle> for a beginner like me?
[21:59] <MrChrisDruif> 10.04 was a LTS release, from which the desktop version will be supported for 3 years, instead of the normal 2. The server edition will be supported for 5 years
[21:59] <MrChrisDruif> ;lts
[21:59] <juzzy_> HELP! all my file folder try to open with gedit text editor!
[21:59] <bioterror> killall gedit
[22:00] <bioterror> did you gedit? ;)
[22:00] <bioterror> open terminal and give that kill command
[22:01] <juzzy_> yep, i gave that kill command. but it still doesn't change folders attempting to open in gedit?     has it anything to do with preferred applications?
[22:01] <bioterror> ahhh
[22:02] <bioterror> what was the tweak for that
[22:03] <holstein> Pringle: just run what you got
[22:03] <holstein> you dont have to upgrade
[22:04] <mello> holstein i tried ppa, but same result
[22:04] <holstein> mello: sounds like its broken
[22:04] <bioterror> juzzy_, .local/share/applications/mimeapps.list check that
[22:04] <mello> holstein: ryhtymbox 3772 & clementine 2450
[22:04] <bioterror> juzzy_, ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list
[22:04] <mello> holstein: what is broken?
[22:05] <holstein> mello: clementine*
[22:05] <mello> hmm
[22:05] <mello> possibly..
[22:05] <mello> i'll try exaile lmao
[22:05] <mello> i want to see if it finds the same amount as rhythmbox
[22:06] <holstein> i dont do any of that anyways
[22:06] <holstein> so im not sure
[22:06] <holstein> i just play what files i want
[22:06] <holstein> in the player i want
[22:06] <bioterror> juzzy_, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/366963/comments/20
[22:06] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 366963 in nautilus "nautilus "open with" property no longer available for folders" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[22:06] <holstein> as needed
[22:06] <mello> so what player do you use
[22:06] <mello> just like.. some mediaplayer ?
[22:06] <holstein> vlc usually
[22:06] <holstein> or clvc
[22:07] <mello> it's too hard with a library of 7000 songs
[22:07] <mello> or for me it is at least
[22:07] <holstein> yeah?
[22:07] <tdn> MrChrisDruif, in terms of more infrequent releases, yes. That is -- as I understand it -- what was requested by Pringle.
[22:07] <holstein> you gotta search and find and play them from somewhere
[22:07] <holstein> might as well be a file manger*
[22:08] <holstein> im a musician though
[22:08] <mello> so am i
[22:08] <holstein> so i rarely listen to music recreationally
[22:08] <mello> that might explain
[22:08] <holstein> still
[22:08] <holstein> i just go find it
[22:08] <holstein> and play it
[22:08] <mello> okay i just don't understand these programs
[22:08] <mello> exaile gives 2359 rofl
[22:08] <holstein> right
[22:09] <mello> sarcasm is sarcasm
[22:09] <mello> :']
[22:18] <rokyronnie> rokyronnie: I try to run a game with wine, and it closed down immediately, this is what is says in terminal : http://pastebin.com/fRPNvnqx .Can someone help me?, forgot about the first line
[22:20] <MrChrisDruif> rokyronnie: I think you'll have better luck in #winehq if I'm not mistaken :)
[22:21] <MrChrisDruif> They should be the experts about Wine :)
[22:21] <rokyronnie> uh :D
[22:21] <rokyronnie> yeah tha channel is good, thank you :)
[23:36] <Pringle> where are the menus in the new ubuntu?
[23:36] <Pringle> how can I go to administration updates?
[23:36] <Pringle> there are no more menus at top..
[23:36] <Pringle> just simple icons on the left :(
[23:36] <holstein> you can still update with the teriminal commands
[23:36] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[23:36] <holstein> sudo apt-get upgrade
[23:37] <holstein> but, you should be able to find the update manager
[23:37] <antiphysicist> what are the drawbacks of not installing the new ubuntu for a beginner curently getting used to 10.10?
[23:37] <holstein> antiphysicist: none
[23:38] <Pringle> it took me more than 1 hour to install this...
[23:38] <antiphysicist> holstein: sorry for earlier if you remember, i had internet connection issues, thanks for the help you tried to give me
[23:38] <Pringle> but now its completely different...
[23:38] <holstein> antiphysicist: did it work?
[23:38] <holstein> i was a little busy then too...
[23:38] <holstein> a little distracted*
[23:38] <Pringle> I can't even find the terminal
[23:38] <holstein> Pringle: ?
[23:38] <holstein> you can logout
[23:39] <holstein> and select 'classic desktop'
[23:39] <holstein> after you click on your name
[23:39] <holstein> then put your password in
[23:39] <holstein> and log into the older look and feel i assume you are talking about
[23:39] <Pringle> when I installed 10.10 at first
[23:39] <Pringle> I made the autologon
[23:39] <Pringle> so it never show that window
[23:39] <holstein> right
[23:39] <holstein> so, logout
[23:40] <holstein> and you should see it
[23:40] <holstein> if not, say wso
[23:40] <holstein> so*
[23:40] <Pringle> ok let me try...
[23:40] <holstein> and we'll go from there :)
[23:40] <holstein> antiphysicist: you miss out on all the fun ;p
[23:41] <Pringle> i made the logout
[23:41] <antiphysicist> holstein: with the new ubuntu and it's revamped interface?
[23:41] <Pringle> but now in the screen i see only the user
[23:41] <holstein> antiphysicist: right
[23:41] <holstein> Pringle: OK
[23:41] <holstein> let me talk you through it again
[23:41] <Pringle> there are no voices to choose the classic desktop
[23:41] <holstein> you click on your name
[23:41] <holstein> THEN
[23:41] <holstein> *after* taht
[23:41] <holstein> that*
[23:41] <holstein> down at the bottom
[23:41] <holstein> under 'session'
[23:42] <holstein> you should see 'classic desktop'
[23:42] <Pringle> oh yes!!
[23:42] <Pringle> theere are even other options
[23:42] <holstein> THEN
[23:42] <holstein> you pur the password in
[23:42] <holstein> and continue logging in
[23:43] <Pringle> ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
[23:43] <Pringle> finally i can see my old desktop!!
[23:43] <holstein> right
[23:43] <Pringle> thanks a lot!
[23:43] <holstein> BUT, thats going away soon
[23:43] <holstein> SO, either dont upgrade
[23:43] <Pringle> ...........they are going to delete the chance to use it??
[23:44] <holstein> or try and take some time to learn unity or gnome3 or something
[23:44] <holstein> Pringle: its not getting 'deleted
[23:44] <holstein> gnome is getting an update
[23:44] <holstein> so, the desktop as we know it is getting changed
[23:44] <Pringle> oh i understand...
[23:44] <holstein> and ubuntu has made unity
[23:45] <holstein> this release, you can log in using the old gnome
[23:45] <Pringle> when I installed the new version as an upgrade to the old one (thru updates)
[23:45] <Pringle> at the end it asked me about grub
[23:45] <Pringle> if i wanted to keep the old version
[23:45] <Pringle> or other choices...
[23:45] <Pringle> what did i have to choose? I choose to keep the old version
[23:45] <holstein> well, that doesnt have anything to do with ubuntu really
[23:45] <Pringle> was it a bad idea?
[23:45] <holstein> thats a grub question
[23:45] <antiphysicist> grub = something to do with boot?
[23:46] <holstein> you *should* keep the current one
[23:46] <holstein> antiphysicist: yeah, the boot manager
[23:46] <Pringle> hoping they are not going to change
[23:46] <Pringle> also the boot manager
[23:46] <holstein> if you say 'give me the maintainers version'
[23:46] <holstein> then your machine wont boot ;)
[23:46] <holstein> but, it seems like you chose wisely
[23:46] <Pringle> I chooose the old version cause I didn't wanna risk not to be able to boot anymore
[23:47] <holstein> Pringle: if you can
[23:47] <holstein> come on the irc
[23:47] <Pringle> cause this system has a dual boot with win
[23:47] <holstein> or google
[23:47] <holstein> *before*
[23:47] <coalwater> how do i generate a diff file from bazaar, any idea ?
[23:47] <holstein> you randomly choose those options
[23:47] <holstein> a little bet of education before something like that can really save some time
[23:47] <holstein> instead of learning the hardway
[23:47] <holstein> *which i have done many times :)
[23:47] <Pringle> but holstein, why as years go ahead, they are making things less simple and intuitive?
[23:48] <Pringle> what was wrong with the old desktop structure..? :(
[23:48] <holstein> Pringle: well, thats your opinion
[23:48] <holstein> that ist not simple*
[23:48] <holstein> and like i said, changes have happended
[23:48] <holstein> that require something to happen
[23:48] <Pringle> maybe you are right... :/
[23:49] <holstein> wait til the switch to wayland
[23:49] <holstein> which i believe ubuntu will be among the first to change to
[23:59] <Pringle> brb :(
[23:59] <Pringle> thanks for the help
[23:59] <Pringle> take care of u