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james_w`jcastro, FYI http://paste.ubuntu.com/600534/ so you know how long changes should take to show up01:34
jcastrojames_w`: thanks!02:03
duanedesignjcastro: ping02:12
jcastroduanedesign: pong02:33
doctormoDrat, I'm getting frustrated with my computer (system76 p') not being able to run first ubuntu 10.10 and now 11.04.02:40
doctormoI need help guys, I don't know where to turn to get this sorted now that it's been going on for more than one cycle.02:40
jcastrodoctormo: did you talk to S76?02:41
jcastrothey're pretty awesome about this sort of thing02:41
doctormojcastro: Yes, they're confused and can't reproduce it on their intel graphics versions. I think it's an nvidia problem.02:42
doctormoI suppose if I upgrade instead of doing a fresh install, then I can keep my 2.6.32 kernel and bleach the 2.6.38 kernel away.02:47
doctormoBut I think that would be bad for a long term solution.02:48
duanedesignhello jcastro. I was returning your ping from the other day.02:53
duanedesignjcastro: you might of been returning my ping from a few days before?  :)02:54
duanedesignor did you need something else?02:54
duanedesignjcastro: I had someone ask me about the lightning talks and when and how they sign up for them.02:56
jcastrooh right02:58
jcastroI needed you to check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity/13821#1382102:58
jcastroand see if it still applies and edit accordingly02:58
jcastroI'm linking to it as "how to make launchers manually" sort of02:58
jcastroso you can probably lose the ref to the bug, etc. or whatever02:58
duanedesignjcastro: I can do that03:02
mhall119I just noticed the blue corner in Unity, when an app in the launcher needs your attention03:33
mhall119that's nice03:33
mhall119thought it was a graphics problem at first though03:33
duanedesignahhhh, that is what that is :)03:42
nigelbGood Morning!05:13
akgranernigelb, shhhh...don't say that  I haven't even found my pillow yet  - it can't be morning...07:11
Pendulumakgraner: you have my sympathy. I found my pillow and then it didn't want me anymore after 2 hours so I'm up at least for now :(07:12
akgranerI've been there as well07:12
akgranerI'm trying to put the finishing touches on 90 minutes of screen casts07:13
akgranerand I drove 3.5 hours to the release party in chapel hill, but wait til you see the awesome-est cake in the whole world though...07:14
Pendulumhaha07:14
akgranerit had narwhal's and the ubuntu logo on it in orange over a layer of purple...07:14
akgranerit was cool07:14
Pendulum:)07:15
akgraner(yeah yeah - I got a think for cake)07:15
akgranerbecca rode with me - and we had a blast07:15
Pendulumooh, if I'm up maybe I'll go colour in my narwhal since I didn't get to it yesterday07:15
Pendulum(I bought a colouring book at the NE Aquarium on Saturday purely because one of the pictures to colour was a narwhal!)07:16
akgranerI just decided to pop in here as I am taking a break...people like duanedesign jcastro popey et all make screencasting seem as smooth as butter07:16
akgranerPendulum, nice!07:16
akgranerI finally figure out how to stop and start record my desktop using the keyboard and not the mouse though07:17
akgranerthat's a win for me!07:17
Pendulum:)07:17
akgranerSo I am planning for UDS - trying to think of the best way to take community questions for the interviews I'll be doing...07:19
akgranerthe video ones...07:19
akgranerI want to hear what other people want to know about and stuff - and say now so-and-so this questions comes from ...then ask the question etc07:20
akgranerthought it might be a fun twist on things07:20
dholbachgood morning07:46
akgranerdholbach, there you go too putting good in front of that dreadful word "morning" ;-p07:48
akgranerdholbach, just kidding :-)07:48
dholbach:)07:49
dholbachhey akgraner07:49
akgranerdholbach, hey!  I haven't swapped "howdy's" with you in what seems like ages...07:49
dholbachhow's life over there? :)07:51
akgranerdholbach, pretty good - just busy til after UDS07:53
dholbachyeah, I can imagine07:53
akgranerbut I can't wait to be at UDS - and um - this time you are on my list to interview (heads up)07:54
dholbachgreat :)07:54
akgranerThe Novacut folks said they would film interviews in addition to the other video folks who film the sessions...07:57
akgranerso there should be at least double the amount of interviews we were able to do for UDS-M  (the UDS-N I don't count as I barely remember it)07:58
dholbachit's going to be awesome07:59
akgraneryep...and I think the Linux New Media folks coming from Germany will have equipment there as well08:00
nigelbbah, flaky internets :(08:02
jussiI am so going to hurt someone at HP.08:24
jussiWHy, why why... whyare the for flaming partitions on a factory install? how the heck do I dual boot with this setup?08:25
jussiwhy are there four*08:26
* jussi headdesks08:26
akgranerrut roh I've never seen jussi resort to violence ...08:28
jussiakgraner: the stress is getting to me :/08:28
akgranersounds like a very serious matter :-)08:28
jussiyes, Im attempting to install kubuntu on a laptop for a work colleague.08:29
akgranerhehe if only that were my excuse for violence ;-)  (I'll try that next time I want to reach through the computer to choke someone)08:29
jussihehe08:29
jussiHere Natty Natty Natty....08:30
akgranerHAHA08:30
jussibtw, did I meantion that in finnish the word for "pretty" is "nätti"?08:31
akgranernot to me - that's cool though08:32
akgraneroh btw speaking of FInnish words  - my daughter wants to know all the cool swear words08:33
akgranerand she and my son both now have irc nicks as they have computers with Ubuntu on them and I told her they have to participate in the community to get help08:34
jussiLOL. are they coming to UDS again?08:37
jussiakgraner: tell them they can join us in #ubuntu-fi-en :D08:37
jussi*G*08:38
akgranerjussi, not this time08:39
jussiawww08:39
akgranermaybe Orlando  - I just have to send a note to the school saying I am pulling the out for a week for educational purposes and they have to submit a report of what they learned and give a talk to the student body about what all they learned08:40
jussiyeah, that would be cool :)08:41
czajkowskialoha08:41
akgranerso I thought it would be an awesome what to introduce Ubuntu to the school with the school's blessing08:41
akgranerczajkowski, howdy!08:41
jussiwould be nice to have some young people with different views in the sessions08:41
dpmmorning all08:43
AlanBellmorning08:43
AlanBellgood job we booked a bank holiday for today08:43
dholbachhey dpm08:44
topylinational post-release-party recovery day?08:44
akgranerjussi, I hope they start getting involved08:44
AlanBelltopyli: yup, the Natty public holiday08:45
topyliwe need to get that sanctioned by the UN08:45
AlanBellsome of our royals decided to use the opportunity of the Natty holiday to book a wedding08:48
jussicall it the "post release holiday" then we can have it 2x a year :D08:48
akgranerInternational Ubuntu Release Week - let's take a whole week off and just celebrate!08:52
topylicount me in08:53
* topyli erases calendar08:53
Tm_Tif I could get few hours free... but no08:54
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duanedesignmorning all09:55
nigelbhey duanedesign10:14
nigelbhello AlanBell and others watching the royal wedding :p10:15
* nigelb runs10:15
jussioh windows, I do hate you and your updates on shutdown with no way to cancel installing them once they have started....10:22
dholbachjussi, press the 'reset' button :)10:24
jussidholbach: but wont that bork the windows system? (and there is no reset, its a laptop)10:24
dholbachit might indeed bork the windows system10:24
jussiexactly. unfortunately I need this sytem to work with both windows and Ubuntu10:25
duanedesignits time for a confession, in the form of a question. Am I the only one watching the royal wedding?10:30
* jussi coughs suspiciously10:31
duanedesign;)10:31
jussiduanedesign: Im not actively watching, just glancing from time to time.10:33
jussiI am actually supposed to be working10:33
popeyakgraner: had a great chat with you husband at the London release party last night :)10:34
* czajkowski prods popey 10:59
popeymorning10:59
popeywhy aren't you lining the streets czajkowski !11:00
czajkowskion the couch trying to work the complicated set up of jons tv11:01
czajkowski:(11:01
czajkowskione remote controls billions of things11:01
czajkowskicant turn on the flpping tv only the mac mini11:01
czajkowskiwhhhhooooooo11:01
czajkowskiworked it11:02
vishduanedesign: http://twitter.com/#!/Casablanca/status/6391237552231219211:36
vish;)11:36
duanedesignvish: ha!11:37
duanedesignvish: chewbaca did not get a medal did he?11:38
vishduanedesign: yea, i dont think he did11:38
duanedesignhe did get the final line in the movie :)11:38
jussihahahaah, epic! http://i.imgur.com/K9jIy.jpg11:42
popeybrilliant11:43
popeyakgraner: \o/ got my screencast setup working!11:49
nigelbjussi: hehe11:54
cjohnstonmornin12:22
akgranerhey y'all how do I move an icon on the launcher?13:00
akgranerI want them in a different order?13:00
popeyhold down on it, pull it away, let go13:03
popeyor right click and untick keep in launcher13:03
akgranerI want to stay in the launcher13:04
akgranerI just want the icons in a different order :-)13:04
akgranerdo you have to de-select keep in launcher to move it13:04
akgranerwell nm if you de-select it without it running it goes away - DOH13:04
akgranergood grief - if I open an app lock it in the launcher then close it reopen it unlock it close then try to open and minimize it then he doesnt show up in the launcher at all13:06
akgranerI have to use a different app or restart my machine to show how to lock and unlock apps in the launcher13:07
akgranerpopey, hold down on it - ummm what do you mean by that13:07
akgranerleft click, right click both ???13:08
akgraneroh I see13:08
popeylong press13:08
popeyleft mouse button13:08
akgranergotit13:08
akgranerthanks!13:08
akgranerbrb I have to restart my computer...grrrr13:09
akgranerpopey I figured out how to stop and start the record my desktop using the keyboard - yay!13:25
akgranerthe commands in the help guide were right for starting but not for stopping13:26
popey:)13:37
akgranerwanna see the coolest Ubuntu cake :-)13:37
akgranerhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/52422536@N00/5667502209/in/photostream/13:38
akgranerthis was our cake for the release party last night13:38
popeysweet13:39
akgranerit was13:39
akgranerthe cake was chocolate with 5 layers...13:39
akgranerum does anyone know what team Matthias Klose works on at Canonical13:49
akgranerand what his title might be?13:49
akgranerLP nor his wiki page tell me anything  :-(13:51
akgranerdoes syncs with unstable mean debian unstable?13:55
popeyyes13:56
Picilikely13:56
akgranerok thanks...13:56
popeyfor LTS we sync'ed with debian testing13:56
popeybut normally we sync with unsbale13:56
Piciunusable?13:56
popeyhaha13:57
popeydebian unusable :)13:57
akgranerand GCC =GNU Compiler Collection13:58
popeyya13:58
james_w`jcastro, FYI summit import from LP is broken again14:26
james_w`somehow there seem to be duplicate users14:26
jcastrough14:26
jcastrojames_w`: we did empty the huge backlog at least14:27
james_w`yeah14:27
james_w`looking in to it now14:27
jcastroTechnoviking: O is open! WE WANT O FORUM WE WANT O FORUM14:37
* akgraner refrains from all the jokes I have collect so far about this being an "O" cycle14:39
akgraners/collect/collected even14:40
akgranerCheck it out my LoCo team is loco enough to hand me a big ass knife and let me cut that cake...http://www.flickr.com/photos/squishy/5669613906/in/photostream/14:49
topylithat look says "muhahaha you poor people don't know what you got into"14:54
akgranerhehe :-) I tried to warn them...14:55
akgranerbut they gave it to me anyway ;-)14:55
topylithat cake looks awesome14:56
akgranerit was :-)14:57
jcastroakgraner: someone needs to rotoscope in a lightsaber15:00
akgranerhaha15:00
mhall119akgraner: your FB comment question "What Unity feature do you like the most" should be get an Ubuntu  User status message for comments15:30
akgranermhall119, I'm sorry I'm not following you?15:32
akgraneryou mean post it as a status15:32
akgranerand not just a reply to a comment15:32
Technovikingjcastro: keep your pants on:)15:48
Technovikingbets on how many thousands of times I misspell oneiric in the next 6 months.15:53
* czajkowski yawns15:55
jcastroTechnoviking: "one eyed rick"15:57
Technovikingjcastro: heh, I want to change my nick to that15:58
Technovikingjcastro: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=403 and I put it on the front page \o/15:58
mhall119akgraner: yeah15:59
jcastroTechnoviking: I am tempted to post "I still hate unity and plymouth"15:59
mhall119jcastro: http://imagebin.org/15079716:00
Technovikingjcastro: I tempted to post "Will the button move back to the right"16:00
jcastromhall119: YEAH!16:01
jcastrojono: here's what we've been doing all day: http://imagebin.org/15079716:01
jcastrojust kidding we're working.16:01
jonojcastro, lol16:01
popeyhaha16:02
mhall119if anybody asks, jcastro gave me a high level request that demanded my immediate attention16:02
jcastro"I had to stop working on summit to do this"16:02
jcastrospeaking of james_w`16:02
mhall119and a full 20 minutes was just decided whether I should make it green or red16:02
jcastrojames_w`: where would dupe names come from? is it from people making new lp accounts and signing up to blueprints?16:03
jcastrojames_w`: also, your conflict resolution with the summits seems to be totally working16:04
jcastronigelb: we just need the CSS color fix for the server track and we're good to go16:05
mhall119jcastro: and the guidebook branch needs to be landed, if it hasn't already16:06
jcastrook16:07
jcastromhall119: do you have proper rights for the machine now?16:07
czajkowski*yawns*16:07
james_w`jcastro, it's not duped people, but duped attendees somehow16:08
james_w`I don't know how, but I know how to fix it16:08
jcastrook16:09
jcastrojames_w`: also, plenary-o-ubuntuserver doesn't show up on the sidebar16:09
jcastroIt's set like all the other plenaries16:09
jcastroI can't figure out what's going on there16:09
jcastrojono: joey: I'm about to start the UDS Scheduling status report to send to -devel and linaro leads, anything you'd like to hammer on other than my usual bits?16:11
mhall119jcastro: supposedly16:11
mhall119cjohnston: ping16:12
james_w`I can't get to chinstrap currently, so can't do anything requiring shell on summit :-(16:16
james_w`there we go, complain about it and it works :-)16:17
Technovikingretweet: https://twitter.com/#!/Technoviking/statuses/6398406781266329616:23
james_w`yo, jcastro, everything is flowing again16:41
james_w`however, the autoscheduler doesn't deal with conflicts16:42
jcastrojames_w`: which conflicts?16:47
james_w`jcastro, look at Tuesday, or the linaro-toolchain track16:47
jcastrooh that's fine16:47
jcastrotrack leads know to go fix those16:47
jcastrojoey: also, you're going to have to help them keep an eye on this sort of thing: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-10/16:48
jcastro(look at the noon slot)16:48
jcastrojames_w`: any idea on that missing plenary?16:50
james_w`not yet16:51
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james_w`jcastro, should we delete the wednesday evening slot?17:07
nigelbjcastro: ok, sir. will be done in 2 mins :017:08
jcastrojames_w`: yikes, that was unintended17:10
jcastrojames_w`: I need it to be on the schedule for people who want to Q+A with mark17:10
jcastrobut it's after hours and unofficial17:10
james_w`jcastro, plenary slot?17:10
jcastrooh, right17:11
jcastrogood idea17:11
jcastrowhy didn't I think of that before?17:11
nigelbjcastro: https://twitter.com/#!/noufalibrahim/status/63959010319147008 :(17:14
jcastrojames_w`: CRAAAAAAAAP.17:15
jcastroI changed the slot17:15
jcastrobut didn't remove the sessions in there17:15
jcastroand I just broke summit17:15
* nigelb celebrates17:15
nigelbjcastro boke summit, jcastro broke summit!17:15
james_w`jcastro, ok, give me 5 to work out what's bust17:16
jcastroit does this17:16
nigelbneed help?17:16
jcastrowhen you change tracks underneath it17:16
jcastrowhat I should have done is moved the sessions to make the entire thing blank17:16
jcastroand then changed it to plenary17:17
joeyjcastro: the two toolchains at the same time17:18
joeyjcastro: got it17:18
joeyjcastro: I ran through this yesterday, each session, but failed to find those17:18
james_w`jcastro, fixed17:18
james_w`joey, do you know if amitk wanted 1 and a bit days for the PM BOF?17:20
jcastrojoey: also see mail from Mounir, think you can handle those changes?17:21
jcastrojoey: I'm kind of up to my neck on ubuntu platform scheduling fixes myself17:21
jcastrojames_w`: thanks for the fix, I always bone that up. :(17:21
james_w`np17:21
joeyjames_w`: he told me just the one day when we chatted a few weeks ago17:21
joeyjames_w`: and he said that he probably doesn't need a dial-in line either17:22
james_w`joey, ok, I'll set up the one day again, and leave the dangling other session for now17:22
james_w`jcastro, how did you get the PM BOF to take up a whole day in one room, it won't let me alter it as it hates the same track being in the same room?17:25
jcastrojames_w`:  I deleted the slot for the break17:28
jcastroso it's one continuous block17:28
jcastrojames_w`: tbh we don't really need break slots, they're just there so the one part says "break"17:29
jcastroit's like a cosmetic thing that we fix with a hammer17:29
nigelbbzr lp-open17:30
nigelbarrrgh!17:30
james_w`ok, I seem to have tricked it17:30
james_w`if only people could follow simple instructions :-(17:31
joeyjcastro: ok I got to Mounir's mail. Are you authorizing me to manually move it?17:32
jcastrojoey: you are my linaro counterpart, go nuts17:32
jcastrojoey: you and I will be moving sessions around from now until sunday night17:32
jcastro:)17:32
joey:-)17:33
jcastrojoey: but once there michelle is at the desk with summit so people just go to them17:33
jcastrobut yeah, I'll handle ubuntu and you handle linaro17:33
jcastrolooks like most of the linaro ones landed without incident17:33
joeyseems james or someone beat me to it17:33
jcastroteamwork!17:34
jcastrojoey: you'll want to spot check stuff too17:34
joeyoh slick! pads!17:36
joeyjcastro or james_w` - sorry to be a bother but it seems I need a quick primer on how to move those meetings from one day to another.17:36
* joey is afraid of messing things up17:36
nigelbjcastro: 'server' right?17:36
jcastrojoey: yeah17:36
jcastroclick edit17:37
jcastromove the session into the side bar17:37
jcastrogo to the other day17:37
jcastroclick edit, drag from sidebar to slot17:37
jcastrothe sidebar is like your little wood thing in scrabble where you can jumble stuff around17:37
joeyjcastro: so I was on the schedule, should I be on http://summit.ubuntu.com/admin/schedule/meeting/17:37
jcastronope17:37
jcastrodo it from the day page17:38
jcastrohttp://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-09/17:38
jcastroclick Edit up top17:38
jcastroyou'll see a sidebar pop out in your browser17:38
jcastrodrag and drop the session there17:38
joeyoh! edit!17:38
joeylol17:38
jcastrothen go to the next day you want to move it to17:38
jcastroedit, and drag and drop17:38
joeysidebar!17:38
jcastroonce you're in edit mode you can just drag the boxes around17:38
paultaggoddamnit. PPAs are down. I'm getting HTTP timeouts17:38
paultagrelease week is always nasty17:39
nigelbpaultag: time for paulpad? :)17:39
paultagnigelb: nah, dget and pbuilder :)17:39
nigelbpaultag: or synland17:39
paultagnigelb: aye :)17:39
paultagnigelb: hell -- it's where the synners go17:39
joeyw00t, I'm empowered now jcastro, thanks17:40
jcastrojoey: go forth, and polish thy tracks17:40
paultagjcastro: that sounds dirty17:40
jcastrojoey: ok you all set? I need to get some chow.17:40
nigelbjcastro: hang on.17:41
nigelbjcastro: ack my merge request.17:41
jcastrojoey: we're in great shape already, normally it's this full/scheduled like the friday before people get on the plane17:41
paultagnigelb: way to ask nicely17:41
jcastroand on sunday night there are people like in the bar doing their blueprints17:41
nigelbpaultag: *cough* its for him anyway :p17:41
paultagnigelb: also, where are my code reviews?17:41
jcastronigelb: ack where?17:41
joeyjcastro: Yeah so far so good. Just need to find that other track that was moved to make sure it's ok.17:41
paultagI guess, where's my code is the better question17:41
joeyjcastro: thanks!17:41
jcastrosorry, I was in the zone17:41
nigelbjcastro: hang on, getting you link17:42
james_w`jcastro, ok, I've screwed up this PM BOF to where I can't get it back to how you had it. Is there some magic you can work to put it back to being in one room all day?17:42
jcastrojames_w`: it's getting back at you for fixing my error.17:42
james_w`heh17:42
jcastroI'll look at it after food, I need to eat17:42
joeyjcastro: oh, editing via the track listing is even better!17:42
jcastrojoey: I know right17:43
nigelbjcastro: https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/fix-server-track/+merge/59531 (diff still updating)17:43
jcastrothe diff was in the mail17:44
jcastroon it!17:44
nigelbah :)17:44
jcastrodone!17:44
nigelb\o/17:44
jcastrosorry, I missed the initial mail or something17:44
* nigelb goes ahead and lands it17:45
joeyjcastro: ok one challenge...17:47
joeyjcastro: I see a power mgmt spec correctly named and accepted but I don't see it scheduled or in the sitebar17:47
joeyjcastro: oh, I found it17:48
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joeyjcastro: classic case of session name != bp name17:48
james_w`jcastro, found your server plenary17:49
james_w`it got scheduled as a normal session17:49
james_w`it's now available for scheduling as normal17:49
pleia2jcastro: can you add this link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/949/detail/ to wednesday on http://uds.ubuntu.com/social-events/ ?17:50
pleia2with a "You must register so we can book tickets in advance"17:51
joeyjames_w`: there a multiple linaro-android sessions going on at the same time on most days. Do we need to fix those or are they appropriately scheduled based upon who's subscribed?17:51
james_w`joey, they will need to be fixed17:51
james_w`however, people should also subscribe as essential if they as essential17:52
james_w`otherwise when the schedule gets fuller someone will move them around and they may clash again17:52
joeyjames_w`: yeah, we have another scheduler run before we lock it down so perhaps an email is in order17:52
james_w`joey, the scheduler run won't move them17:52
joeyjames_w`: how so? I thought the ones we don't move will get shuffled around?17:53
james_w`nope17:53
joeyjames_w`: platform has some dups as well but just looking at them I think it's ok.17:54
nigelbjcastro: landed.17:54
nigelbDaviey: landed the fix for serverandcloud -> server, could you land it when you have time?17:54
joeyug toolchain...fixing that17:54
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joeyso james_w` what's the trick to busy time? admin - sched -  participants ?18:02
james_w`joey, Attendees18:02
joeyah there it is18:03
james_w`I think if you use up those three then it will offer more, but I've not tried it18:03
james_w`so it looks to me like the "oh bugger" messages happen when you drag using the title link of the session. If you drag with the background of the session it gives sensible messages. Is that other people's experience?18:05
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nigelbjoey: what exactly did you do to get that traceback?18:12
nigelbjoey: I want to (a) reproduce it myself and confirm your bug (b) possibly fix it if I can :)18:13
mhall119nigelb: can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/summit/guidebook-rebrand/+merge/57591, I made the one change cjohnston wanted18:18
mhall119if approved, can you land it too?18:18
mhall119we need to get this update out18:18
nigelbmhall119: yes18:18
nigelbdoing so18:19
nigelbmhall119: ref=email? they want us to do that?18:19
mhall119that's what they asked for, yes18:21
mhall119not sure why they wanted "email"18:21
mhall119but, it's what they asked for18:22
nigelbokay18:22
mhall119I've also approved a couple of cjohnston's branches, if you can land those as well it'd be much appreciated18:22
nigelbmhall119: okay. NApproved yours.18:23
nigelb*approved18:23
mhall119thanks nigelb, you rock18:23
nigelb(also, now I see why you gave me commit :p)18:23
mhall119lol18:23
mhall119I told ya18:23
nigelbmhall119: only branch of chris?18:24
jcastroTechnoviking: epic, someone's already done a windicator post in the O forum18:24
nigelbmhall119: I don't see a couple of branches.18:25
nigelbokay, I see 218:27
joeynigelb: I clicked on that link :-)18:30
joeynigelb: let me get you your URL18:30
nigelbjoey: I mean, I don't have admin. so I have to reproduce on local :)18:30
nigelbjoey: so I'll have to follow the same steps  :)18:31
joeynigelb: home-auth-users-nigelb and then click on "view on site" on the right side18:31
jcastroJFo: man, I found the funniest Unity criticism so far on the web.18:32
jcastrothis is hilarious18:32
nigelbjoey: awesome thanks :)18:32
jcastroMight be NSFW for some: http://i.imgur.com/zdIIa.png18:33
JFojcastro, :-)18:33
nigelbjcastro: because windicators became persistent?18:33
nigelb:\18:33
JFolook at the bars themselves nigelb18:34
JFosee them for what they are18:34
JFo;-)18:34
nigelbJFo: bah, it is lost on me18:35
nigelbJFo: I can't figure it out18:35
JFolook at the symbol at the top of the left bar18:35
nigelboh,HAHAHA18:35
JFo:)18:36
nigelbwe combined mac and windows?18:36
nigelbmhall119: Landed. Do you wwant me to manually do the "In Progress" -> "Fix Comitted"? or does it happen automatically?18:38
jcastronigelb: basically they are saying "the launcher is from windows, the top thing is from mac"18:39
nigelbjcastro: yeah, I finally got that.18:39
nigelbI haven't used windows in such a long time it didn't hit me :)18:39
popeyhttp://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/67118:44
popey"Humble, because we have borrowed consciously from the work of other successful platforms, like Windows and MacOS."18:44
popeyduh!18:44
nigelblawl18:48
jcastroyou won't here complaints from me, the super shortcuts in win7 are pretty awesome18:51
jcastroI am glad we improved them18:51
jcastrothey don't do like a nice overlay like we do when you hold the key down18:51
nigelbjames_w`: ping18:52
nigelbjames_w`: what does the trackfix.py change in your branch? Is it fixing something b0rked? :)18:52
nigelb(i'm on a roll here :p)18:52
james_w`nigelb, without that change trackfix doesn't fix any tracks18:53
james_w`it says it will, but doesn't actually make the changes18:53
nigelbjames_w`: ouch, ok :)18:53
james_w`has anyone seen the BP for summit improvement discussion at UDS?18:54
nigelbjames_w`: I proposed a BP for summit, did you propose another?18:55
james_w`nope18:56
james_w`I just want to find it as it's not on the schedule yet from what I can see18:56
nigelbhttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/summit/+spec/community-o-summit18:56
james_w`thanks18:56
nigelbyeah, jono is yet to approve I guess18:56
nigelbjoey: I couldnt reproduce the problem with mine :\18:58
nigelblet me try asking someone else to take a poke19:00
james_w`nigelb, http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/19:05
nigelbjames_w`: ugh, cjohnston's merge :\19:06
nigelbjames_w`: fairly sure https://code.launchpad.net/~chrisjohnston/summit/643050/+merge/59284 is what's causing it19:08
james_w`nigelb, yep19:08
nigelband mike disappears at the right moment.19:09
james_w`it doesn't like the 35+    <a class="sub-nav-item" href="{% url summit.schedule.views.past %}">{% trans 'Past Summits' %}</a>19:09
nigelbjames_w`: its working locally :\19:10
james_w`django version differences?19:11
nigelbhrm, were there any migrations?19:11
james_w`nope, I don't think so19:11
nigelbjames_w`: do you have a copy of the traceback?19:13
nigelbI closed it by mistake :(19:13
james_w`no, but I can turn it on at any time :-)19:13
james_w`nigelb, refresh19:13
nigelbaha19:14
james_w`NoReverseMatch: Reverse for 'summit.schedule.views.past' with arguments '()' and keyword arguments '{}' not found.19:14
nigelbthis seems to be a django version difference perhaps19:15
* nigelb googles19:16
james_w`using {% url past %} doesn't work either though19:16
czajkowskiok 1 more day in April left and then May, can may be a fantastic new month please19:17
nigelbjames_w`: I can't figure this out. Its done correctly. Let me see if there is a connection with django version change19:18
nigelbjames_w`: also, let me get cjohnston online19:18
nigelbbah, voicemail :(19:19
nigelbjames_w`: has it got all the changes in? like the url.py entry?19:21
james_w`nigelb, yep19:21
nigelbjames_w`: try removing the url thing?19:21
nigelbor hang on, let me try that locally19:22
nigelbwait, that breaks it19:22
nigelbaha, cjohnston just texted me. I texted him back.19:24
james_w`it looks like we need to make it re-read the urls.py file19:26
nigelbbut why does it work locally for me then :\19:27
nigelbjames_w`: what version of django are we running on the server19:28
james_w`nigelb, fixed it19:28
nigelbjames_w`: \o/19:28
nigelbjames_w`: what went wrong?19:28
james_w`urls.py is cached, so I had to force a restart of something or other19:28
james_w`"touch django.wsgi"19:28
nigelbaha!19:28
nigelbyayayayay!19:29
nigelbcode was perfect.19:29
* nigelb texts cjohnston the good news19:29
nigelbok, scare averted. back to work19:30
james_w`sorry about that19:31
james_w`now, time to find some lunch19:31
nigelbheh19:31
mhall119jcastro: is something up with summit?20:05
mhall119cjohnston: texted me, said something was broken20:06
nigelbmhall119: it was, we fixed it. I texted him to text you :)20:09
nigelbmhall119: james_w` pushed the latest code, and we had forgotten to do a restart of mod_wsgi, worked after that :)20:09
mhall119nigelb: I got the "they fixed it" text too20:12
mhall119just wanted to check in20:12
mhall119good work20:13
nigelbmhall119: james_w` figured it out. All I did was text chris ^-^20:13
nigelbakgraner, jcastro -> Done! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek/Natty/SessionLeaders20:13
jcastropleia2: done.20:26
jcastropleia2: ping me on monday during plenaries so I can announce that people should sign up20:26
pleia2jcastro: you rock, thank you :) will do!20:26
mhall119sign up for what?20:27
pleia2mhall119: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/949/detail/20:28
pleia2invisible exhibition on wednesday evening at UDS :)20:28
mhall119what is it?20:28
pleia2http://www.lathatatlan.hu/en/20:28
jcastropleia2: ok so here's a creepy story20:28
jcastroI just now went upstairs to get some ice20:28
jcastroand we have star wars lego fridge magnets20:29
jcastroand I have a princess leia magnet one right by the handle to the freezer20:29
jcastroand I walked up there and opened the door and I was like "have a good time at your exhibition princess."20:29
jcastrolike, to the lego character20:29
pleia2hahah20:29
pleia2it's a good thing it's friday :)20:30
mhall119interesting20:30
jcastromy party is in 4 hours20:30
jcastrowell, the -us-mi party I mean20:30
pleia2mhall119: yeah, AlanBell suggested going in an -accessibility blog post a few weeks back, so I coordinated with the ubuntu hungarian folks to help us get there on public transit and to arrange getting tickets (and possibly having the exhibition stay open late if we have lots of people who want to go)20:31
doctormoHey all20:37
doctormoAnyone having issues with ppa uploads? I'm getting connection refused.20:37
joeynigelb: the good news is that it's not really anything that track leads need to worry about, I think. I just happened to be exploring20:37
Picidoctormo: ppa.lp.net. is overloaded at the moment.20:39
doctormoPici: Thanks for info. :-) Will post my delicious data validation some other time.20:39
pleia2doctormo: I discovered britshoppe.com has a retail outlet about 12 blocks from me, hopping over there on Saturday to secure teas :)20:42
jcastrowoo, new 5 fingers for UDS!20:43
nigelbjoey: :)20:43
nigelbpleia2: :)20:43
doctormo"Taylors of Harrogate Yorkshire Red tea" - Wow, could you get more pretentious ;-), we just all it "The tea wot the spoon stands up in"20:44
nigelbjcastro: stop freaking us out :p20:44
doctormocall*20:44
doctormojcastro: Got yourself a new arm i.e. Beeblebrox?20:44
doctormopleia2: So grab the 40x tea bags in both pg tips and yorkshire red. They're $4 and $6, if you can cart a packet of rich tea and digestive biscuits, then you get an extra gold start.20:46
doctormostar*20:46
pleia2\o/20:46
pleia2digestive biscuits aren't well-sealed, will need to make sure I can get them through customs20:47
doctormopleia2: Put them in luggage, customs have never stopped me before...20:47
* pleia2 nods20:48
doctormoUnless you don't carry luggage.20:48
pleia2oh no, I love luggage20:48
jcastrohttps://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/erpOVwOC71Gnzy0tZLdG7w?feat=directlink20:48
jcastrowoo!20:48
doctormoDoes anyone fancy lighting talking about this on my behalf? http://doctormo.org/2011/04/29/bugs-are-not-issues/20:48
popeyooo like that doctormo21:09
doctormoYou're going?21:09
popeyUDS, no.21:09
jussidoctormo: Ill see if I can screw up the courage to do it... can promise anything...21:42
doctormojussi: You _can_ promise anything ;-)21:48
doctormoI just shared a scanner over the network, I'm happy.21:49
jcastrojames_w`: oh dude you sorted the plenary!22:18
jcastrojoey: can you ping asac on monday to doublecheck the plenaries? linaro has one more open slot but if you're note going to use it I'd like to give it to a community member.22:18
jcastrojoey: basically, last chance alex!22:18
joeyjcastro: wilco..  he's been searching for some topic but so far one has not presented itself22:19
jcastroright22:19
jcastroand right now there is exactly one non-canonical or linaro person giving a plenary22:19
jcastroI would like to at least double that22:20
joey:-)22:21

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