[01:34] jcastro, FYI http://paste.ubuntu.com/600534/ so you know how long changes should take to show up [02:03] james_w`: thanks! [02:12] jcastro: ping [02:33] duanedesign: pong [02:40] Drat, I'm getting frustrated with my computer (system76 p') not being able to run first ubuntu 10.10 and now 11.04. [02:40] I need help guys, I don't know where to turn to get this sorted now that it's been going on for more than one cycle. [02:41] doctormo: did you talk to S76? [02:41] they're pretty awesome about this sort of thing [02:42] jcastro: Yes, they're confused and can't reproduce it on their intel graphics versions. I think it's an nvidia problem. [02:47] I suppose if I upgrade instead of doing a fresh install, then I can keep my 2.6.32 kernel and bleach the 2.6.38 kernel away. [02:48] But I think that would be bad for a long term solution. [02:53] hello jcastro. I was returning your ping from the other day. [02:54] jcastro: you might of been returning my ping from a few days before? :) [02:54] or did you need something else? [02:56] jcastro: I had someone ask me about the lightning talks and when and how they sign up for them. [02:58] oh right [02:58] I needed you to check this out: http://askubuntu.com/questions/13758/how-can-i-edit-create-new-launcher-items-in-unity/13821#13821 [02:58] and see if it still applies and edit accordingly [02:58] I'm linking to it as "how to make launchers manually" sort of [02:58] so you can probably lose the ref to the bug, etc. or whatever [03:02] jcastro: I can do that [03:33] I just noticed the blue corner in Unity, when an app in the launcher needs your attention [03:33] that's nice [03:33] thought it was a graphics problem at first though [03:42] ahhhh, that is what that is :) [05:13] Good Morning! [07:11] nigelb, shhhh...don't say that I haven't even found my pillow yet - it can't be morning... [07:12] akgraner: you have my sympathy. I found my pillow and then it didn't want me anymore after 2 hours so I'm up at least for now :( [07:12] I've been there as well [07:13] I'm trying to put the finishing touches on 90 minutes of screen casts [07:14] and I drove 3.5 hours to the release party in chapel hill, but wait til you see the awesome-est cake in the whole world though... [07:14] haha [07:14] it had narwhal's and the ubuntu logo on it in orange over a layer of purple... [07:14] it was cool [07:15] :) [07:15] (yeah yeah - I got a think for cake) [07:15] becca rode with me - and we had a blast [07:15] ooh, if I'm up maybe I'll go colour in my narwhal since I didn't get to it yesterday [07:16] (I bought a colouring book at the NE Aquarium on Saturday purely because one of the pictures to colour was a narwhal!) [07:16] I just decided to pop in here as I am taking a break...people like duanedesign jcastro popey et all make screencasting seem as smooth as butter [07:16] Pendulum, nice! [07:17] I finally figure out how to stop and start record my desktop using the keyboard and not the mouse though [07:17] that's a win for me! [07:17] :) [07:19] So I am planning for UDS - trying to think of the best way to take community questions for the interviews I'll be doing... [07:19] the video ones... [07:20] I want to hear what other people want to know about and stuff - and say now so-and-so this questions comes from ...then ask the question etc [07:20] thought it might be a fun twist on things [07:46] good morning [07:48] dholbach, there you go too putting good in front of that dreadful word "morning" ;-p [07:48] dholbach, just kidding :-) [07:49] :) [07:49] hey akgraner [07:49] dholbach, hey! I haven't swapped "howdy's" with you in what seems like ages... [07:51] how's life over there? :) [07:53] dholbach, pretty good - just busy til after UDS [07:53] yeah, I can imagine [07:54] but I can't wait to be at UDS - and um - this time you are on my list to interview (heads up) [07:54] great :) [07:57] The Novacut folks said they would film interviews in addition to the other video folks who film the sessions... [07:58] so there should be at least double the amount of interviews we were able to do for UDS-M (the UDS-N I don't count as I barely remember it) [07:59] it's going to be awesome [08:00] yep...and I think the Linux New Media folks coming from Germany will have equipment there as well [08:02] bah, flaky internets :( [08:24] I am so going to hurt someone at HP. [08:25] WHy, why why... whyare the for flaming partitions on a factory install? how the heck do I dual boot with this setup? [08:26] why are there four* [08:26] * jussi headdesks [08:28] rut roh I've never seen jussi resort to violence ... [08:28] akgraner: the stress is getting to me :/ [08:28] sounds like a very serious matter :-) [08:29] yes, Im attempting to install kubuntu on a laptop for a work colleague. [08:29] hehe if only that were my excuse for violence ;-) (I'll try that next time I want to reach through the computer to choke someone) [08:29] hehe [08:30] Here Natty Natty Natty.... [08:30] HAHA [08:31] btw, did I meantion that in finnish the word for "pretty" is "nätti"? [08:32] not to me - that's cool though [08:33] oh btw speaking of FInnish words - my daughter wants to know all the cool swear words [08:34] and she and my son both now have irc nicks as they have computers with Ubuntu on them and I told her they have to participate in the community to get help [08:37] LOL. are they coming to UDS again? [08:37] akgraner: tell them they can join us in #ubuntu-fi-en :D [08:38] *G* [08:39] jussi, not this time [08:39] awww [08:40] maybe Orlando - I just have to send a note to the school saying I am pulling the out for a week for educational purposes and they have to submit a report of what they learned and give a talk to the student body about what all they learned [08:41] yeah, that would be cool :) [08:41] aloha [08:41] so I thought it would be an awesome what to introduce Ubuntu to the school with the school's blessing [08:41] czajkowski, howdy! [08:41] would be nice to have some young people with different views in the sessions [08:43] morning all [08:43] morning [08:43] good job we booked a bank holiday for today [08:44] hey dpm [08:44] national post-release-party recovery day? [08:44] jussi, I hope they start getting involved [08:45] topyli: yup, the Natty public holiday [08:45] we need to get that sanctioned by the UN [08:48] some of our royals decided to use the opportunity of the Natty holiday to book a wedding [08:48] call it the "post release holiday" then we can have it 2x a year :D [08:52] International Ubuntu Release Week - let's take a whole week off and just celebrate! [08:53] count me in [08:53] * topyli erases calendar [08:54] if I could get few hours free... but no === daker_ is now known as daker [09:55] morning all [10:14] hey duanedesign [10:15] hello AlanBell and others watching the royal wedding :p [10:15] * nigelb runs [10:22] oh windows, I do hate you and your updates on shutdown with no way to cancel installing them once they have started.... [10:24] jussi, press the 'reset' button :) [10:24] dholbach: but wont that bork the windows system? (and there is no reset, its a laptop) [10:24] it might indeed bork the windows system [10:25] exactly. unfortunately I need this sytem to work with both windows and Ubuntu [10:30] its time for a confession, in the form of a question. Am I the only one watching the royal wedding? [10:31] * jussi coughs suspiciously [10:31] ;) [10:33] duanedesign: Im not actively watching, just glancing from time to time. [10:33] I am actually supposed to be working [10:34] akgraner: had a great chat with you husband at the London release party last night :) [10:59] * czajkowski prods popey [10:59] morning [11:00] why aren't you lining the streets czajkowski ! [11:01] on the couch trying to work the complicated set up of jons tv [11:01] :( [11:01] one remote controls billions of things [11:01] cant turn on the flpping tv only the mac mini [11:01] whhhhooooooo [11:02] worked it [11:36] duanedesign: http://twitter.com/#!/Casablanca/status/63912375522312192 [11:36] ;) [11:37] vish: ha! [11:38] vish: chewbaca did not get a medal did he? [11:38] duanedesign: yea, i dont think he did [11:38] he did get the final line in the movie :) [11:42] hahahaah, epic! http://i.imgur.com/K9jIy.jpg [11:43] brilliant [11:49] akgraner: \o/ got my screencast setup working! [11:54] jussi: hehe [12:22] mornin [13:00] hey y'all how do I move an icon on the launcher? [13:00] I want them in a different order? [13:03] hold down on it, pull it away, let go [13:03] or right click and untick keep in launcher [13:04] I want to stay in the launcher [13:04] I just want the icons in a different order :-) [13:04] do you have to de-select keep in launcher to move it [13:04] well nm if you de-select it without it running it goes away - DOH [13:06] good grief - if I open an app lock it in the launcher then close it reopen it unlock it close then try to open and minimize it then he doesnt show up in the launcher at all [13:07] I have to use a different app or restart my machine to show how to lock and unlock apps in the launcher [13:07] popey, hold down on it - ummm what do you mean by that [13:08] left click, right click both ??? [13:08] oh I see [13:08] long press [13:08] left mouse button [13:08] gotit [13:08] thanks! [13:09] brb I have to restart my computer...grrrr [13:25] popey I figured out how to stop and start the record my desktop using the keyboard - yay! [13:26] the commands in the help guide were right for starting but not for stopping [13:37] :) [13:37] wanna see the coolest Ubuntu cake :-) [13:38] http://www.flickr.com/photos/52422536@N00/5667502209/in/photostream/ [13:38] this was our cake for the release party last night [13:39] sweet [13:39] it was [13:39] the cake was chocolate with 5 layers... [13:49] um does anyone know what team Matthias Klose works on at Canonical [13:49] and what his title might be? [13:51] LP nor his wiki page tell me anything :-( [13:55] does syncs with unstable mean debian unstable? [13:56] yes [13:56] likely [13:56] ok thanks... [13:56] for LTS we sync'ed with debian testing [13:56] but normally we sync with unsbale [13:56] unusable? [13:57] haha [13:57] debian unusable :) [13:58] and GCC =GNU Compiler Collection [13:58] ya [14:26] jcastro, FYI summit import from LP is broken again [14:26] somehow there seem to be duplicate users [14:26] ugh [14:27] james_w`: we did empty the huge backlog at least [14:27] yeah [14:27] looking in to it now [14:37] Technoviking: O is open! WE WANT O FORUM WE WANT O FORUM [14:39] * akgraner refrains from all the jokes I have collect so far about this being an "O" cycle [14:40] s/collect/collected even [14:49] Check it out my LoCo team is loco enough to hand me a big ass knife and let me cut that cake...http://www.flickr.com/photos/squishy/5669613906/in/photostream/ [14:54] that look says "muhahaha you poor people don't know what you got into" [14:55] hehe :-) I tried to warn them... [14:55] but they gave it to me anyway ;-) [14:56] that cake looks awesome [14:57] it was :-) [15:00] akgraner: someone needs to rotoscope in a lightsaber [15:00] haha [15:30] akgraner: your FB comment question "What Unity feature do you like the most" should be get an Ubuntu User status message for comments [15:32] mhall119, I'm sorry I'm not following you? [15:32] you mean post it as a status [15:32] and not just a reply to a comment [15:48] jcastro: keep your pants on:) [15:53] bets on how many thousands of times I misspell oneiric in the next 6 months. [15:55] * czajkowski yawns [15:57] Technoviking: "one eyed rick" [15:58] jcastro: heh, I want to change my nick to that [15:58] jcastro: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=403 and I put it on the front page \o/ [15:59] akgraner: yeah [15:59] Technoviking: I am tempted to post "I still hate unity and plymouth" [16:00] jcastro: http://imagebin.org/150797 [16:00] jcastro: I tempted to post "Will the button move back to the right" [16:01] mhall119: YEAH! [16:01] jono: here's what we've been doing all day: http://imagebin.org/150797 [16:01] just kidding we're working. [16:01] jcastro, lol [16:02] haha [16:02] if anybody asks, jcastro gave me a high level request that demanded my immediate attention [16:02] "I had to stop working on summit to do this" [16:02] speaking of james_w` [16:02] and a full 20 minutes was just decided whether I should make it green or red [16:03] james_w`: where would dupe names come from? is it from people making new lp accounts and signing up to blueprints? [16:04] james_w`: also, your conflict resolution with the summits seems to be totally working [16:05] nigelb: we just need the CSS color fix for the server track and we're good to go [16:06] jcastro: and the guidebook branch needs to be landed, if it hasn't already [16:07] ok [16:07] mhall119: do you have proper rights for the machine now? [16:07] *yawns* [16:08] jcastro, it's not duped people, but duped attendees somehow [16:08] I don't know how, but I know how to fix it [16:09] ok [16:09] james_w`: also, plenary-o-ubuntuserver doesn't show up on the sidebar [16:09] It's set like all the other plenaries [16:09] I can't figure out what's going on there [16:11] jono: joey: I'm about to start the UDS Scheduling status report to send to -devel and linaro leads, anything you'd like to hammer on other than my usual bits? [16:11] jcastro: supposedly [16:12] cjohnston: ping [16:16] I can't get to chinstrap currently, so can't do anything requiring shell on summit :-( [16:17] there we go, complain about it and it works :-) [16:23] retweet: https://twitter.com/#!/Technoviking/statuses/63984067812663296 [16:41] yo, jcastro, everything is flowing again [16:42] however, the autoscheduler doesn't deal with conflicts [16:47] james_w`: which conflicts? [16:47] jcastro, look at Tuesday, or the linaro-toolchain track [16:47] oh that's fine [16:47] track leads know to go fix those [16:48] joey: also, you're going to have to help them keep an eye on this sort of thing: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-10/ [16:48] (look at the noon slot) [16:50] james_w`: any idea on that missing plenary? [16:51] not yet === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [17:07] jcastro, should we delete the wednesday evening slot? [17:08] jcastro: ok, sir. will be done in 2 mins :0 [17:10] james_w`: yikes, that was unintended [17:10] james_w`: I need it to be on the schedule for people who want to Q+A with mark [17:10] but it's after hours and unofficial [17:10] jcastro, plenary slot? [17:11] oh, right [17:11] good idea [17:11] why didn't I think of that before? [17:14] jcastro: https://twitter.com/#!/noufalibrahim/status/63959010319147008 :( [17:15] james_w`: CRAAAAAAAAP. [17:15] I changed the slot [17:15] but didn't remove the sessions in there [17:15] and I just broke summit [17:15] * nigelb celebrates [17:15] jcastro boke summit, jcastro broke summit! [17:16] jcastro, ok, give me 5 to work out what's bust [17:16] it does this [17:16] need help? [17:16] when you change tracks underneath it [17:16] what I should have done is moved the sessions to make the entire thing blank [17:17] and then changed it to plenary [17:18] jcastro: the two toolchains at the same time [17:18] jcastro: got it [17:18] jcastro: I ran through this yesterday, each session, but failed to find those [17:18] jcastro, fixed [17:20] joey, do you know if amitk wanted 1 and a bit days for the PM BOF? [17:21] joey: also see mail from Mounir, think you can handle those changes? [17:21] joey: I'm kind of up to my neck on ubuntu platform scheduling fixes myself [17:21] james_w`: thanks for the fix, I always bone that up. :( [17:21] np [17:21] james_w`: he told me just the one day when we chatted a few weeks ago [17:22] james_w`: and he said that he probably doesn't need a dial-in line either [17:22] joey, ok, I'll set up the one day again, and leave the dangling other session for now [17:25] jcastro, how did you get the PM BOF to take up a whole day in one room, it won't let me alter it as it hates the same track being in the same room? [17:28] james_w`: I deleted the slot for the break [17:28] so it's one continuous block [17:29] james_w`: tbh we don't really need break slots, they're just there so the one part says "break" [17:29] it's like a cosmetic thing that we fix with a hammer [17:30] bzr lp-open [17:30] arrrgh! [17:30] ok, I seem to have tricked it [17:31] if only people could follow simple instructions :-( [17:32] jcastro: ok I got to Mounir's mail. Are you authorizing me to manually move it? [17:32] joey: you are my linaro counterpart, go nuts [17:32] joey: you and I will be moving sessions around from now until sunday night [17:32] :) [17:33] :-) [17:33] joey: but once there michelle is at the desk with summit so people just go to them [17:33] but yeah, I'll handle ubuntu and you handle linaro [17:33] looks like most of the linaro ones landed without incident [17:33] seems james or someone beat me to it [17:34] teamwork! [17:34] joey: you'll want to spot check stuff too [17:36] oh slick! pads! [17:36] jcastro or james_w` - sorry to be a bother but it seems I need a quick primer on how to move those meetings from one day to another. [17:36] * joey is afraid of messing things up [17:36] jcastro: 'server' right? [17:36] joey: yeah [17:37] click edit [17:37] move the session into the side bar [17:37] go to the other day [17:37] click edit, drag from sidebar to slot [17:37] the sidebar is like your little wood thing in scrabble where you can jumble stuff around [17:37] jcastro: so I was on the schedule, should I be on http://summit.ubuntu.com/admin/schedule/meeting/ [17:37] nope [17:38] do it from the day page [17:38] http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-o/2011-05-09/ [17:38] click Edit up top [17:38] you'll see a sidebar pop out in your browser [17:38] drag and drop the session there [17:38] oh! edit! [17:38] lol [17:38] then go to the next day you want to move it to [17:38] edit, and drag and drop [17:38] sidebar! [17:38] once you're in edit mode you can just drag the boxes around [17:38] goddamnit. PPAs are down. I'm getting HTTP timeouts [17:39] release week is always nasty [17:39] paultag: time for paulpad? :) [17:39] nigelb: nah, dget and pbuilder :) [17:39] paultag: or synland [17:39] nigelb: aye :) [17:39] nigelb: hell -- it's where the synners go [17:40] w00t, I'm empowered now jcastro, thanks [17:40] joey: go forth, and polish thy tracks [17:40] jcastro: that sounds dirty [17:40] joey: ok you all set? I need to get some chow. [17:41] jcastro: hang on. [17:41] jcastro: ack my merge request. [17:41] joey: we're in great shape already, normally it's this full/scheduled like the friday before people get on the plane [17:41] nigelb: way to ask nicely [17:41] and on sunday night there are people like in the bar doing their blueprints [17:41] paultag: *cough* its for him anyway :p [17:41] nigelb: also, where are my code reviews? [17:41] nigelb: ack where? [17:41] jcastro: Yeah so far so good. Just need to find that other track that was moved to make sure it's ok. [17:41] I guess, where's my code is the better question [17:41] jcastro: thanks! [17:41] sorry, I was in the zone [17:42] jcastro: hang on, getting you link [17:42] jcastro, ok, I've screwed up this PM BOF to where I can't get it back to how you had it. Is there some magic you can work to put it back to being in one room all day? [17:42] james_w`: it's getting back at you for fixing my error. [17:42] heh [17:42] I'll look at it after food, I need to eat [17:42] jcastro: oh, editing via the track listing is even better! [17:43] joey: I know right [17:43] jcastro: https://code.launchpad.net/~nigelbabu/summit/fix-server-track/+merge/59531 (diff still updating) [17:44] the diff was in the mail [17:44] on it! [17:44] ah :) [17:44] done! [17:44] \o/ [17:44] sorry, I missed the initial mail or something [17:45] * nigelb goes ahead and lands it [17:47] jcastro: ok one challenge... [17:47] jcastro: I see a power mgmt spec correctly named and accepted but I don't see it scheduled or in the sitebar [17:48] jcastro: oh, I found it === JanC_ is now known as JanC [17:48] jcastro: classic case of session name != bp name [17:49] jcastro, found your server plenary [17:49] it got scheduled as a normal session [17:49] it's now available for scheduling as normal [17:50] jcastro: can you add this link http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/949/detail/ to wednesday on http://uds.ubuntu.com/social-events/ ? [17:51] with a "You must register so we can book tickets in advance" [17:51] james_w`: there a multiple linaro-android sessions going on at the same time on most days. Do we need to fix those or are they appropriately scheduled based upon who's subscribed? [17:51] joey, they will need to be fixed [17:52] however, people should also subscribe as essential if they as essential [17:52] otherwise when the schedule gets fuller someone will move them around and they may clash again [17:52] james_w`: yeah, we have another scheduler run before we lock it down so perhaps an email is in order [17:52] joey, the scheduler run won't move them [17:53] james_w`: how so? I thought the ones we don't move will get shuffled around? [17:53] nope [17:54] james_w`: platform has some dups as well but just looking at them I think it's ok. [17:54] jcastro: landed. [17:54] Daviey: landed the fix for serverandcloud -> server, could you land it when you have time? [17:54] ug toolchain...fixing that === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [18:02] so james_w` what's the trick to busy time? admin - sched - participants ? [18:02] joey, Attendees [18:03] ah there it is [18:03] I think if you use up those three then it will offer more, but I've not tried it [18:05] so it looks to me like the "oh bugger" messages happen when you drag using the title link of the session. If you drag with the background of the session it gives sensible messages. Is that other people's experience? === daker is now known as daker_ [18:12] joey: what exactly did you do to get that traceback? [18:13] joey: I want to (a) reproduce it myself and confirm your bug (b) possibly fix it if I can :) [18:18] nigelb: can you please review https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/summit/guidebook-rebrand/+merge/57591, I made the one change cjohnston wanted [18:18] if approved, can you land it too? [18:18] we need to get this update out [18:18] mhall119: yes [18:19] doing so [18:19] mhall119: ref=email? they want us to do that? [18:21] that's what they asked for, yes [18:21] not sure why they wanted "email" [18:22] but, it's what they asked for [18:22] okay [18:22] I've also approved a couple of cjohnston's branches, if you can land those as well it'd be much appreciated [18:23] mhall119: okay. NApproved yours. [18:23] *approved [18:23] thanks nigelb, you rock [18:23] (also, now I see why you gave me commit :p) [18:23] lol [18:23] I told ya [18:24]