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dx9sI am sure this is the wrong channel but figured this is the channel where developers that build LiveCD images might be.. I'm working on my own LiveCD and got everything working find except on little detail... casper during boot into the squashfs makes an icon on desktop and updates the icon under system for the install to HD... I just want the icon in System -> Administration -> Install (RELEASE)00:14
broder_dx9s: go look at the scripts in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/casper-bottom00:16
dx9scan't seem to find any docs on WHERE that is (Python scripts assuming) and I think it's apart of the ubiquity-casper package that does the actual branding of the icon to the live desktop00:16
broder_one of them is probably responsible00:16
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broderthough i don't know for sure00:16
dx9sis that in the initrd ?00:16
broderit's copied there from the real filesystem00:17
dx9sI'll poke around.. thanks00:17
dx9sbroder, possibly 47une_ubiquity I am thinking00:19
dx9sbroder, or 10adduser00:21
broderdx9s: i haven't looked at those scripts in a long time, so i can't really provide much more guidance at the moment00:23
dx9syou've pointed me in the correct direction .. that much is appreciated!00:23
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SpamapSjcastro: ping re: summit00:29
SpamapSjcastro: 1) https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-mysql  <-- that *must* be on Monday00:29
jcastroSpamapS: yessir00:29
SpamapSjcastro: 2) edge?! really? ;)00:29
SpamapSjcastro: does summit take into account when essential people are only registered to be there on a certain day? It looks like summit doesn't list ccharles yet, but he's essential in lp00:30
jcastroSpamapS: fixed.00:32
jcastroand yes it does00:32
SpamapSjcastro: woot! :) ty00:32
dx9sokay now to remember how to update the initrd from inside the chroot :P00:32
jcastroSpamapS: we had some import errors, once the cron job runs a few more times we'll be set00:33
jcastroSpamapS: now that I've moved it by hand summit won't touch it, so you're good to go now00:33
dx9supdate-initramfs -u00:33
dx9sbroder, I think I found the code to comment out... making ISO now and gonna test it soon00:34
dx9sbroder, thanks much00:34
broderdx9s: np00:34
dx9sslick .. super slick... it's basically done :P just a little more tweaking broder you rock!!00:35
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Sweetsharkkenvandine: ping?01:02
lifelessugh, sudoers.d is a massive foot-gun01:09
lifelessvs visudo01:09
ionPerhaps there should be a file /etc/sudoers.d.merged which is updated by a dpkg trigger based on files in /etc/sudoers.d and goes via visudo-style checking before getting updated.01:11
lifelesssomething like that would have saved me needing to go reboot this box and sit in front of its boot sequence ;)01:12
sorenlifeless: sudo visudo -f /etc/sudoers.d/whatever01:14
sorenlifeless: Not particularly convenient, but usable.01:14
lifelesssoren: should be mentioned in the README of that dir01:15
sorenlifeless: Good point.01:15
sorenlifeless: Are you filing a bug or shall I?01:16
ionCan multiple sudoers files have unforeseen effects *when combined*? If yes, checking the final combination on the system might be appropriate.01:16
lifelesssoren: I'm trying to decide between interrupting a 6GB rsync of a vm over wifi to reboot and fix my file01:16
lifelesssoren: plus right now I suspect I would use inappropriate language in such a bug report.01:16
lifelesssoren: so, if you could, that would be win.01:17
lifelession: I suspect they can but am not completely sure.01:17
ionrsync is somewhat good at not doing too much extra work when restarting after being interrupted.01:18
sorenion: Really?01:19
sorenion: It syncs into a temporary file. I didn't think it found this temporary file again if it were restarted.01:20
sorenlifeless: bug 77282201:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 772822 in sudo (Ubuntu) "sudoers.d/README should explain how to use visudo for the files in there" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77282201:20
james_w`pitti, cdbs branches should be good to go now01:21
ionsoren: --partial01:21
ionI always use that, mostly in the form of -P01:21
sorenion: Hm... ACtually, so do I :)01:22
sorenion: I just forgot.01:22
sorenion: Muscle memory makes me always do "rsync -aHAPiv", but I forgot what the P was for :)01:22
TheMuso@pilot in01:29
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lifelession: if you supply --partial *when you start*01:42
soreauThere is a bug I've found in the 11.04 installer. Select manual partitioning, then select and existing partition and select which file system type it is. Now in all other installers, you could type a custom mount point but in 11.04 you cannot. I found a workaround is to copy it into clipboard buffer then right click on the mount point text area and select paste manually01:51
TheMusosoreau: I suggest filing a bug against ubiquity in launchpad.01:53
soreauTheMuso: Ok thanks (wasn't sure where to file it)01:53
TheMusonp01:54
micahgsoreau: I believe it's release noted01:54
micahgsoreau: bug 76904301:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 769043 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Cannot manually specify a mount point in the manual partitoner" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76904301:55
soreauAh yes, was just searching through existing reports on launchpad01:57
soreauthanks micahg01:57
soreauHmm, it didn't find any suitable OS to import settings from. (Not that I wish to import settings, I just hope it actually detects all the other distros installed and configures the boot loader properly)02:01
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didrocksgood morning07:00
RAOFHowdie didrocks07:23
didrockshey RAOF! how are you?07:23
RAOFI'm pretty good.07:23
RAOFStill amazed at how big my new monitor is.07:23
didrocksRAOF: oh? you bought a new one?07:23
TheMusoRAOF: Oh wow you got a new monitor? Cool.07:23
RAOFYeah; I got a 24" Dell UltraSharp.07:24
didrocksnice, which resolution? :)07:24
RAOF1920x108007:24
RAOFSo (disappointingly) around 96 DPI.07:25
RAOFI don't regret not getting the 27", though :)07:25
TheMusoYeah I recently picked up a new 24 inch monitor, as my previous one was starting to fail... Coloured line throught eh centre.07:25
didrocksmy 22'' has the same resolution as well, it's already nice :)07:25
TheMusoMy previous 22 inch that is.07:26
didrocks(I was with my laptop monitor 17 inch, with 1920x1200), so the zoom in is impressivev ;)07:26
RAOFIt makes the Unity semi-maximise snapping much more useful when the screen is wide enough to have two 80-column windows happily on each side.07:26
StevenKRAOF: Unity stealing Do's summon key makes me sad.07:29
TheMusoI'm looking forward to the extra resolution for when I need to magnify stuff.07:29
RAOFStevenK: It made me sad, too.07:29
RAOFctrl+alt+space isn't a bad alternative, and I filed a bug with unity.07:29
StevenKCan has number?07:30
RAOFWhich looked like it might get resolved for a while.07:30
StevenKI'd like to subscribe07:30
RAOFbug #70423107:30
ubottuLaunchpad bug 704231 in compiz (Ubuntu Natty) "Unity steals <super> modifier key" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/70423107:30
* StevenK glares at his laptop07:33
StevenKThat looks like a GPU hang ...07:33
didrocksStevenK: blame compiz on the stealing :)07:34
didrocksStevenK: sam made a branch to fix that, but it was basically breaking everything else…07:35
StevenKdidrocks: I wonder if it is possible to fix safely07:35
didrocksStevenK: not really, in Oneiric yeah, but in Natty, this will ask for etoomanyrewritings of plugins07:36
StevenKGrrr, bug spam07:36
didrocksit's basically the whole way compiz is handling Xorg key grab which has to be changed :/07:36
* StevenK hides it07:36
dholbachgood morning07:46
ionthat.07:46
dholbachpitti, cjwatson: can you confirm bug 759534?07:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 759534 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "No locale defined for English language while selecting Norway as contry (Natty beta1)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75953407:46
dholbachit's the closest to what I found today: I couldn't set Norwegian as language in gnome-language-selector07:47
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pittiGood morning08:04
pittijames_w`: awesome, thanks!08:05
pittidholbach: is is not really a bug..08:06
* pitti comments in the report08:06
pittidone08:08
abhinav-pitti: what do you think about this ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apport/+bug/77233608:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 772336 in apport (Ubuntu) "Add feature to take screenshots of the buggy window" [Wishlist,Triaged]08:09
pittiabhinav-: it's on my list of stuff to look at, but I won't have time today, sorry08:11
abhinav-pitti: alright. no problem. :)08:12
dholbachpitti, can you try to install "norwegian" on your machine and select it as your language?08:13
dholbachpitti, it doesn't work for me on 2 machines08:13
pittidholbach: in language-selector?08:14
dholbachpitti, even if the bug I quoted is not "a real bug" I think there's a real problem08:14
dholbachpitti, yes, please08:14
pittihm, doesn't install the langpack nor the locale08:18
dholbachpitti, I have no idea how to track it down - you can just select the spellchecker options for it on my machines08:19
pittidholbach: how did you learn about this, is there a bug report for it already for keeping notes?08:21
dholbachpitti, I tried to install Norwegian as additional language08:22
dholbachand set it for a user08:22
* pitti wonders which Norwegian one -- Nynorsk (-nn) or Bokmål (-nb)08:25
pittilanguage-pack-nn installs fine here08:26
pittiso does language-pack-nb; bummer08:26
pittioh08:30
pittiit tries to install -no08:30
pittibut there is no -no langpack; it's either -nn or -nb08:31
diwicpitti, I'm checking a Lucid install here, seems like it installs both myspell-nn and myspell-nb08:33
pittidiwic: yes, that's language-support-writing-no08:34
dholbachpitti, is the bug I mentioned related to it all?08:34
pittibut that shouldn't really exist08:34
pittidholbach: not really I think08:34
dholbachI didn't search very long to find a suitable one08:34
pittidholbach: there is no en_NO locale08:34
dholbachok08:34
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dholbachpitti, I'll file a bug on this - maybe there are other languages affected as well - not sure how to test this08:48
pittidholbach: sounds like a special case; thanks for filing the bug, please let me know the number when you are done08:49
dholbachwill do08:52
dholbachpitti, bug 77300908:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 773009 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "Can't select Norwegian" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77300908:55
dholbachdpm, ^08:56
Sweetsharkhmmm, I am having a strange Ubuntu only issue: "LANGUAGE=C LC_ALL=C gcc -print-file-name=libgcc_s.so.1" according to the man-page should print a full path, but does not. And it seems to be a ubuntu only issue.08:56
dpmdholbach, thanks, looking...08:57
pittidholbach: cheers, updated08:58
mvocjwatson: bug #772514 looks like it might be caused by a incomplete perl state during the upgrade (isc-dhcp-client.postinst fails in debconf it seems) do you have a idea how to make that more robust (if that is actually the problem, but it looks like it is)?09:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 772514 in unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) "upgrade issue due to failing debconf prompt(?)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77251409:06
dholbachhey mvo09:07
mvohey dholbach09:07
seb128mvo, he's off today I think, they got a bank holiday due to some weeding ;-)09:12
mvowoah, must be a important one, we don't get anything like this in my part of the world09:13
mvoseb128: thanks seb12809:13
seb128;-)09:14
seb128yw09:14
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Sweetsharkhmm, my build expects a /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.5.2/libgcc_s.so.1 symlink -- which seems to work on other distros. Can anyone shed a light on which lib one should expect where?09:43
seb128seems like a doko's question09:44
cornoi would appreciate it if someone can give me some advice or point me in the right direction, my story as follows:09:53
cornoi'm new to the LaunchPad system, joined a few days ago and would love to get involved with bug-fixing/development09:54
cornoi've found a specific bug that i'm interested in (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator/+bug/484252)09:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 484252 in usb-creator (Ubuntu) "Format action wipes all partitions" [High,In progress]09:54
cornoa patch has been submitted to the bug item, this patch is made on top of usb-creator version 0.2.28 as far as i can tell09:54
cornowhen i checked out the latest TRUNK i see that other fixes/changes have been committed in the meantime09:54
ogra_Sweetshark, mutiarch ?09:54
cornoif i want to test (for education purposes) this aforementioned patch, should i test it against the latest trunk (involving some merging first as the patch affects already changed areas)?09:54
ogra_err09:54
ogra_*multi09:54
cornoany pointers are most welcome thanks09:54
seb128hey corno09:56
Sweetsharkogra_: there is a /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.5.2/libgcc_s.so, so it the .1 which confuses the build09:56
cornoseb128:  hi :)09:56
seb128corno, ubuntu-sponsors should be subscribed to the bug for the patch to be in the review queue09:57
seb128corno, it would be best to test on trunk if you can update the patch to apply to that version09:57
seb128corno, but testing on 0.2.28 is better than nothing09:58
ogra_Sweetshark, ah, yeah, then its doko :)09:58
cornoseb128:  thanks for the pointers, appreciated.  think i will get my hands dirty with the trunk testing instead, after applying/merge patch to trunk version.  think i will learn more following that route.09:59
seb128corno, do you have specific questions?09:59
seb128corno, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu might be worth reading if you need infos10:00
cornoseb128:  and when i can confirm the patch does what it should, i'll just generate a patch (should find instructions on wiki) and just attach to bug again right?10:00
seb128yes10:00
seb128corno, or do a merge proposal on launchpad10:00
cornoseb128:  have read most wiki pages RE contributing/dev/bug fixing.  just a lot to wrap my head around and thought i'd come and make contact here to fast track my learning curve.10:01
seb128corno, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff as well10:01
seb128corno, that page explains merge proposals and debdiffs, usb-creator is maintained as an upstream project on launchpad so merge proposal might be the easier way10:02
seb128corno, ok, feel free to ask questions if you block on something, otherwise ev is maintaining usb-creator but he's off today since it's an uk bank holiday10:02
cornoseb128:  he was probably invited to the Royal Wedding ;)10:04
cornoseb128:  thanks again for all the pointers.10:04
seb128;-)10:06
seb128you're welcome10:06
cornoseb128:  awesome page ->  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff10:06
seb128we have nice documentation, there is just a lot on the wiki so it's not always easy to find what you need10:08
seb128but yeah ;-)10:08
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cornoseb128:  yep, the wiki is very helpful, just a question of filtering out the exact information i need to start my ubuntu dev journey.10:11
cornoseb128:  the "bzr branch" command will actually create a new branch dir on the LP system?10:28
seb128corno, no, it gives you a local one10:29
seb128but you can push it tp lp:~user... then10:29
seb128to10:29
seb128that will create a new one10:29
cornoseb128:  thanks10:31
cornoseb128:  feeling a bit stupid, need some help with the branch command10:40
hrwok, natty released. time to switch to oneiric?10:41
cornoseb128:  i'm having a look here:  https://launchpad.net/usb-creator and when i do the branch10:41
cornoseb128:  bzr branch lp:usb-creator lp-checkout10:42
cornoseb128:  am not sure about the part after "lp:"10:42
ogra_hrw, definitely ! oneiric-changes already has 6 packages !10:43
hrwogra_: german mirror lacks oneiric dirs - so I will wait few days10:44
chrisccoulsonthat reminds me - must subscribe!10:44
ogra_hrw, bah, these german slackers ...10:45
hrw;D10:45
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dpmcjwatson, hi, where is the Chinese iso available for download?10:58
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seb128corno, sorry I was out, that should work, what error do you get? did you try without the lp-checkout bit?12:08
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GunnarHjScottK: Hi Scott, Could you please approve bug 771661. It's a pure update due to a proposed SRU. Thought I'd prevent that regression bugs start dropping in this time. ;-)  (Pls let me know if participation by ubuntu-backporters is redundant in a case like this.)12:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 771661 in gdm "Allow .xsession-errors to be a symlink" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77166112:43
ScottKGunnarHj: Done.12:43
GunnarHjScottK: Thanks! 47 seconds, not bad. :)12:44
ScottKI think ubuntu-backporters is not redundant in this case, but it's easy to say if it's good enough for SRU, it's good enough for me.12:46
dpmpitti, I was about to go back to the nouveau driver after having installed nvidia r173. However, when starting jockey-gtk, I'm no longer presented with the option of choosing the nouveau driver. Is this a known bug, or expected behaviour?13:30
cornoseb128:  was my turn to be out now :)13:33
cornoit checked out successfully, my command:  bzr branch lp:usb-creator lp-checkout13:34
cornoand i ended up with the latest in my "lp-checkout" dir13:34
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pittidpm: if you merely disable the nvidia one you should get back to nouveau automatically13:55
dpmpitti, yes, that works, thanks. Out of curiosity, why is the behaviour like that instead of just showing all the available drivers?13:58
hrwquestion: someone moved main machine to oneiric?14:10
* ogra_ never upgrades before A114:11
hrwogra: your ac100 was not safe even at B1 iirc14:12
ogra_it is now14:12
ogra_we have a proper kernel source now ... got a lot better ... still not finished though14:12
hrwogra: so which kernel ver now?14:13
ogra_.3714:13
hrwnice14:13
hrwandroid device based or mainline + patches?14:13
ogra_mainline + patches14:14
ogra_and a good chunk already went to .3914:14
hrwawesome14:14
hrwaudio or smp works?14:14
ogra_by the time you cant buy the device in stores anymore we will have a proper mainline kernel :)14:14
ogra_smp, CPU PM and backlight work14:15
ogra_there is a fake sound driver but the actual codec isnt there yet14:15
ogra_(i have input and output devices but no actual sound)14:15
hrwogra: there will be other tegra2 deives too14:16
ogra_yeah, but they will all need different kernels i fear14:16
ogra_ac100 and folio 100 have nearly the same boards for example14:16
ogra_but the kernel isnt interchangeable14:17
cornoseb128:  regarding https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Recipes/Debdiff.  no 2 and 3, do they both create branches/dirs on local hdd?14:21
cornoseb128:  or does no 3 create the branch/dir remotely on LP side?14:21
seb128corno, sorry if you get a local copy working I'm not sure what your question or issue is14:22
seb128corno, oh, yes, 2 does a copy from the server version14:23
seb128n°3 does a new copy which you can use to hack on your modified version$14:23
seb128so you get a checkout from trunk and a patch directory where you can work14:23
seb128you could just checkout the trunk hack directly in it and push that on you personal space, not sure why the page suggest doing a copy in 3- but that works as well14:24
seb128it has the advantage to keep you a trunk checkout so you can use it again or update it and keep working on your patch in the new copy you do in 314:25
cornoseb128:  ah, makes sense to have the "untouched" copy, espeically when the source in question is relatively large. thanks for clearing up.14:26
seb128yw14:26
loolHmm I get a signature rejection when uploading to oneiric:14:42
lool  Uploading linaro-image-tools_0.4.5-0ubuntu2_source.changes: 1k/2k550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ["(7, 9, u'No public key')", "(7, 9, u'No public key')", "(7, 9, u'No public key')"] : Permission denied.14:42
loolbut gpg --verify ../linaro-image-tools_0.4.5-0ubuntu2_source.changes passes14:42
lool(and on the .dsc as well)14:42
mdkeI've had the error a few times recently when uploading to natty14:43
mdkethe upload seems to work though14:43
ScottKlool: LP bug.14:44
seb128lool, could have worked, the errors seems to be a false warning14:44
ScottKThe upload went through.14:44
seb128that's happening for a month or so14:44
loolOk; thanks14:44
ScottKwgrant was making vague promises it would be fixed soon recently.14:44
pittidpm: please feel free to report (or check for) a bug report of this14:53
cdbsWhoa? Oneiric open for development?15:01
cdbsOkay, its just a misleading blog post on UbuntuUser15:01
charlie-tcait was announced through the mailing lists15:02
cdbsNo wait, it IS open! Did we break the world records for quickest opening?15:02
cdbscharlie-tca: yes I just got the mail15:03
rigvedso does that mean that i can download and install onieric? is this a pre-alpha release?15:09
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cdbsrigved: In theory, yes. But its severely unstable right now15:10
rigvedcdbs: ok. so maybe in a vm then?15:10
cdbsrigved: Daily builds should start to come up in 1-2 weeks15:10
rigvedcdbs: oh ok. i think i'll wait till the daily build is out. i always find that better to download via zsync15:11
cdbsrigved: until then the only way to use oneiric is to upgrade the hard way i.e. change all appearances of natty in /etc/apt/sources.list to oneiric and apt-get dist-upgrade. WARNING: unstable software15:11
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rigvedcdbs: no i don't want to do that. thanks :)15:11
cdbsrigved: Even I never did that. I've always installed from the daily builds15:12
wgrantcdbs: We were nearly able to open 12 hours ago, but the mirrors were overloaded :(15:12
wgrantScottK, lool: That bogus warning should be gone now.15:12
cdbswgrant: hmm, why such a hurry? All previous openings were a week after release of previous version15:13
cdbsor even more15:13
barrywgrant: yeah, even doing sbuilds yesterday was painful ;)15:13
wgrantcdbs: It's normally only a couple of days nowadays.15:13
cdbswgrant: But this was by far the quickest15:13
wgrantIndeed.15:13
wgrantThe toolchain was prepared in a PPA, so no iteration in the primary archive was required.15:13
cdbsI remember cjwatson terming the natty opening to be the quickest, still it took 5 days15:13
AndreaAzzaronehello! in gtk3 there is libglade?15:21
loolwgrant: Cool; thanks15:27
andrea__hello! in gtk3 there is libglade?15:29
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cdbsandersk: You mean in Natty? yes15:41
cdbsandersk: you'll need to install glade-3 though15:41
cdbsoops15:42
cdbssorry andersk , wanted to answer andrea__ who eft15:42
cdbs*left15:42
seb128cdbs, not sutre your reply was correct, libglade is deprecated for a while in favor of gtkbuilder15:48
seb128glade is just the gui used to edit those15:49
cdbsseb128: yes I did realize that, would have said it in the next line if he was around15:49
cdbsseb128: It is non-existant in GNOME3 isn't it?15:49
seb128libglade? it's deprecated yes, there is no gtk3 version15:50
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* stgraber will need to write a new release procedure for his work environment (VMs + chroot + bzr branches + e-mail filters + ...), this all take a lot of time :)16:06
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cornoi have a question RE https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/GettingSetUp16:37
cornoin there it has a step:  "pbuilder-dist <release> create"16:37
cornowhere <release> means:  Replace this with the codename of the version of Ubuntu or Debian you want to use.16:38
cornodoes that just mean for the distribution/release you are going to test/dev on?16:39
cornoi see that it will download all the necessary packages for a "minimal installation".16:40
ScottKYes16:41
cornook cool, just wanted to make sure that it has nothing to do with the TARGET milestone or release.16:42
cornoand that it is all about the environment that you have currently installed and on which you want to dev & test.16:42
Laneyjcastro: Can you get the DMB session scheduled please? If too much stuff gets scheduled into that slot then it increases the chance of conflicts (there's already one with me)16:48
james_w`Laney, which session?16:52
Laneyjames_w`: do you mean which one am I conflicted with?16:52
james_w`Laney, it's already scheduled and you want it re-scheduled?16:53
Laneyjames_w`: it's not scheduled, I need it to be so that the scheduler doesn't create conflicts which would make other DMBers unable to attend16:53
james_w`Laney, ok, which session do you mean?16:54
james_w`I'm trying to debug why some things aren't getting autoscheduled16:54
Laneythe regular DMB meeting16:54
Laneythere's no blueprint or anything for it16:54
jcastrocjwatson or pitti: can one of you add scottk to ~uds-organizers? I need him to be able to approve/decline kubuntu topics.16:55
james_w`Laney, why no blueprint?16:55
ScottKcjwatson or pitti: LP username kitterman16:55
ScottK(scottk in LP is entirely someone else)16:56
Laneyjames_w`: because it's nothing which needs discussion or will result in WIs or anything like that16:56
Laneyshould there be one anyway?16:56
Laneyit is just our fortnightly meeting to approve new people16:57
james_w`Laney, that's how required participants are set, which is what stops the scheduler from creating clashes16:57
james_w`so there's not much point in scheduling it without that16:57
Laneyalright I'll file one16:57
jcastroLaney: right, just create a blueprint and mark the required people16:57
jcastroand post UDS we'll just delete it or whatever16:57
Laneyfigured there would be a way to do it without creating a noop blueprint, but ho hum :-)16:58
james_w`what do you want, a system that caters to all your needs?!?!?16:58
Laneyhttps://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-o-dmb-meeting there you go16:59
james_w`jcastro, can you accept that? ^17:01
* SpamapS is still quite confused why summit uses .edge.17:02
LaneyI didn't check the essential button for cody-somerville, sorry :'(17:03
jcastroSpamapS: which part is referring to edge? I've not run into edge URLs17:04
Laneythe blueprint links all go to edge17:05
james_w`https://code.launchpad.net/~james-w/summit/no-edge/+merge/5952617:06
Laneybeat me to it!17:07
Laneystill uses the edge api though17:07
jcastroah17:08
ScottKslangasek: Do I need to prod you about spec approval or can I assume you'll read your LP mail and get to it?17:17
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kirklandmvo: lifeless: howdy!  what does it take to get a system installing via the server or the alternate cd to use a squid-deb-proxy?  is it possible?17:30
mvokirkland: iirc the altnerate install ask for a proxy during the network setup step, but its probably only done in manual mode. not sure if its possible to put that into the dhcp data17:32
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kirklandmvo: hmm, i should be able to preseed it, right?17:46
kirklandmvo: but it's not a generic http proxy;  it's just a deb proxy, so i'm unsure17:46
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mvokirkland: yeah, preseed should work. right, its not a generic proxy, maybe its best to seed it only for the install and have something that removes it afterwards. altneratively you could install squid-deb-proxy-client for auto-discovery, but that would have to be done pretty early in the process. or just write /etc/apt/apt.conf with the acquire::http::proxy early17:54
* mvo needs to go for dinner now17:54
kirklandmvo: is there a udeb that can be installed early enough?17:54
kirklandmvo: i didn't see one in my first look17:54
mvokirkland: I think there is none, but that should be straightforward to create, that is a nice idea17:56
kirklandmvo: cool17:57
kirklandRoAkSoAx: ^17:57
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ok... what I'm trying to do is netboot the mini ISO but use the mirror synced by cobbler17:59
RoAkSoAxkirkland: and trying to tell that in the preseed17:59
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ok I got it18:05
RoAkSoAxkirkland: this is sweet!18:05
kirklandRoAkSoAx: using the mirror info from http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/example-preseed.txt ?18:07
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RoAkSoAxkirkland: yeah, I added the mirror part to your preseed like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/600874/18:14
RoAkSoAxkirkland: which points to the mirror location (which in fact is a full server ISO import)18:14
RoAkSoAxkirkland: but the idea is to have a template seed that automatically sets the mirror for each ISO imported18:15
kirklandRoAkSoAx: *exactly* !!!18:15
RoAkSoAxkirkland: so basically we can use the reposync feature in cobbler to do this when importing mini ISO's, or/and have squid-deb-proxy to handle the updates18:17
kirklandRoAkSoAx: yeah18:18
soreauGuys I'm totally lost here and I can't find anyone who knows what's going on.. I open sound-preferences from the volume icon on gnome-panel in natty and it also automatically opens a terminal that starts orca (and starts talking). I exit the terminal and it restarts itself automatically. What is going on here?18:19
slangasekScottK: let's assume for the moment that prodding me is the safer option until I tell you otherwise :)18:22
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SpamapSmvo: that software-center upload to natty-proposed is massive18:27
SpamapSkirkland: for s-d-p .. I don't think the client updates d-i's proxy information.. just apt.. so you'll need to have that udeb specifically talk to d-i18:29
SpamapSsoreau: you will probably have better luck getting support in #ubuntu18:30
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RoAkSoAxkirkland: ok so after installation, /etc/apt/sources.list points to the cobbler mirror18:35
SpamapSkirkland: I like the idea of automatically making use of an s-d-p during installs eventually. Not sure if we want to make it that easy to mitm installs though (even w/ the cryptographic protections.. seems like asking for trouble)18:36
kirklandSp4rKy: right18:37
Sp4rKy:)18:38
RoAkSoAxkirkland: why not do this? 1. Create repos with cobbler. 2. Every time we import an ISO use a preseed that points to the cobbler's repo/mirror. 3. let cobbler update the repo/mirror (it's just matter of cobbler reposync)18:39
RoAkSoAxkirkland: obviosly the first sync of the mirror will take quite a long time18:39
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kirklandRoAkSoAx: i don't think it's reasonable to *require* 500GB+ of disk space to run orchestra, out of the box18:40
kirklandRoAkSoAx: squid-deb-proxy gives us the benefit of caching a subset of the archive locally18:41
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and if every Orchestra deployment came to require mirroring the archive, we'd kill the main mirrors with everyone's initial sync :-)18:41
RoAkSoAxkirkland: you are right :)18:43
kirklandRoAkSoAx: that said, we should definitely support/allow people to run their own mirros18:43
kirklandRoAkSoAx: as many large ubuntu deployments may well have one18:43
RoAkSoAxkirkland: I agree!18:44
soreauSpamapS: I already asked several times in #ubuntu18:49
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geserkees: Hi, is it ok if I take the vim merge of you?19:12
till_[not strictly ubuntu-devel, so excuse the OT, but] does anyone else have trouble resolving ppa.launchpad.net?19:14
keesgeser: sure thing! thanks!19:14
kees$ host ppa.launchpad.net19:15
keesppa.launchpad.net has address 91.189.90.21719:15
keestill_: ^^19:15
till_Err http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release.gpg Could not connect to ppa.launchpad.net:80 (91.189.90.217), connection timed out19:15
till_kees: yeah, sorry, resolving works, anything else doesn't19:16
gesertill_: the connection might be a little stressed right now due to release19:16
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bdmurray@pilot in20:08
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stgraberLaney: thanks for schedulding the DMB uds session!20:09
Laneynp :-)20:10
Laneystgraber: hope it gets scheduled soon. there's one session I'm essential for at that time already20:10
cndjcastro, I created blueprints for uds named "dx-o-touch-<blah>", do I need to recreate them as "desktop-dx-o-touch-<blah>"?20:13
stgraberjcastro: ^ can you schedule Laney's session (other-o-dmb-meeting)20:14
jcastrocnd: no you need to rename them that20:14
cndjcastro, how do I rename them?20:14
cndmaybe I just didn't see the button :)20:14
jcastroon the bp page20:14
jcastrotop right, details link20:14
cndjcastro, found it, thanks!20:15
jcastrostgraber: accepted it, it should hit the scheduler on the next cron job (hourly)20:15
Laneyjcastro: it needs to be scheduled at a specific time20:16
Laneymonday 16:0020:16
mvoSpamapS: the s-c upload is massive  ? to proposed? let me double check, should not be. I mean, not tiny, but not massive20:20
mvoSpamapS: this is what diffstat shows  for me http://paste.ubuntu.com/600934/ - is that what you see too?20:22
stgraberLaney: I can move it then if it's not scheduled at the right time.20:27
Laneystgraber: ok sounds good20:27
m4n1shanyone here knows about firefox addons debugging?20:28
abhinav-m4n1sh: try #ubuntu-mozillateam :)20:37
m4n1shabhinav-: thanks. even on irc.mozilla.org :)20:38
abhinav-oh yea :)20:38
cornoi have a question RE the command "pbuilder-dist natty create"20:46
ohsixwhere can i see the build status for main archive packages?20:46
cornoi get the following output from it:   initramfs-tools : Depends: udev (>= 147~-5) but it is not installed20:48
corno libc6-dev : Depends: linux-libc-dev but it is not installed20:48
corno mountall : Depends: udev but it is not installed20:48
corno plymouth : Depends: udev (>= 166-0ubuntu4) but it is not installed20:48
corno python2.7-minimal : Depends: libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1) but it is not installed20:48
Sarvattohsix: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds20:48
ohsixSarvatt: thanks :D20:48
ohsixahh i see, the package i was interested in wasn't even uploaded for my arch; the upload for proposed was finished for i386 hours ago20:49
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ohsixhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_text=pithos&build_state=all how do you get someone to copy it to another arch?20:50
cornois that normal? or should i fix that for my dev env to work properly?20:50
ohsixSarvatt: is that something i can just ask an archive admin to do or should i ping the maintainer20:53
cornoi think i might have a bigger problem20:56
cornowhen i execute this:  "pbuilder-dist natty build ../usb-creator_0.2.29.dsc"20:56
cornoi sit with this [error] output:  I: Building the build Environment20:57
cornoI: extracting base tarball [/home/corno/pbuilder/natty-base.tgz]20:57
cornogzip: stdin: unexpected end of file20:57
bdmurraycheck your dmesg for hardware errors20:57
cornoany ideas how to fix this problem? i'm probably doing something silly.20:58
cornobdmurry:  was the dmesg msg for me?21:03
corno*bdmurray21:03
bdmurraycorno: yes21:03
cornobdmurray:  nothing in dmesg21:04
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bdmurraycorno: okay, it was just a thought21:04
cornobdmurray:  i'm correct in saying that archive is built when running "pbuilder-dist natty create"?21:05
bdmurraycorno: I'm not really familiar with pbuilder21:07
Laneysounds like the basetgz is broken21:07
Laneyi'd delete it and recreate21:07
cornoLaney:  meaning re-run "pbuilder-dist natty create"?21:07
Laneycorno: yeah21:08
cornoLaney:  thanks, will give it a shot.21:08
Sarvattohsix: its arch all which always builds on i386, not sure why its not in proposed yet though because it looks like it should be21:09
cornoLaney:  oh btw, i think it is safe to assume the tgz is broken, i just checked its size:  0K  :)21:09
ohsixhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pithos/+bug/759699 well this is the bug i was going by21:09
ubottuUbuntu bug 759699 in pithos (Ubuntu) "Gstreamer encountered a general stream error" [Medium,Triaged]21:10
Sarvattohsix: oh its just not on some of the mirrors yet21:10
ohsixah ok21:10
Sarvattohsix: it's on archive.ubuntu.com21:10
Sarvattnow its on us.archive.ubuntu.com too, wasnt a few minutes ago21:11
ohsixit'll probably be on my mirror by the time i need it :D21:11
ScottKMeep.21:42
ScottKNot what you want to see in your build log: /usr/bin/apt-cache exit status 1121:43
ScottKhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/70709627/buildlog_ubuntu-oneiric-armel.boost-mpi-source1.46_1.46.1-4ubuntu3_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz21:43
ohsixhar21:44
penguin42ScottK: I'd check to see if the apt-cache got built with the compiler with shrink-wrap on or off21:44
ScottKpenguin42: It's an in archive build, so ...21:44
cornowhen doing "pbuilder-dist natty create"21:47
cornoi see msgs like:  W: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/libssl0.9.8_0.9.8o-5ubuntu1_i386.deb was corrupt21:47
cornoW: Couldn't download package libssl0.9.821:47
cornoanyone else seen those?21:47
ohsixdid you check and see if you were having hardware/disk problems yet?21:49
cornoohsix:  yep, and i didn't see anything suspicious21:49
ohsixaside from the file verification failures ;]21:51
cornoohsix:  lol, yeah :)21:52
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cornonatty-base.tgz keeps on being 0K21:59
cornowould this have anything to do with it?  The following packages have unmet dependencies:21:59
corno initramfs-tools : Depends: udev (>= 147~-5) but it is not installed21:59
corno libc6-dev : Depends: linux-libc-dev but it is not installed21:59
corno mountall : Depends: udev but it is not installed21:59
corno plymouth : Depends: udev (>= 166-0ubuntu4) but it is not installed21:59
corno python2.7-minimal : Depends: libssl0.9.8 (>= 0.9.8m-1) but it is not installed21:59
cornoi guess not?21:59
penguin42anyone know how long it's taking for a ppa upload to do anything?22:01
ohsixpenguin42: look at the build status for the package, there are links on the pages after a successful upload22:02
ohsixyou'll get an email if the upload fails too; theres kind of a few minutes of dead time after an upload, just need to wait a bit22:02
penguin42ohsix: I did the upload about 4 hours ago, it said it successfully uploaded and their is nothing on the web page22:02
ohsixurl to the ppa?22:03
penguin42https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-treblig/+archive/kdefixes22:03
Ampelbeinpenguin42: there was a problem with ppas few hours ago22:03
ohsixdid you already add a public key to your account and sign your upload with it?22:03
penguin42ohsix: Yes, I've done a few before22:04
ohsixah ok22:04
penguin42Ampelbein: Does that mean it'll eventually bubble through or that it needs reuploading?22:04
Ampelbeinpenguin42: you can never be wrong by reuploading ;-)22:05
penguin42haha22:05
cornowhen doing a "pbuilder create", surely one shouldn't get the msg that some of the files on the server is corrupt?  done it now the 4th time, always give the corrupt msg for the same group of files.22:05
penguin42Ampelbein: Ah - ppa.launchpad.net is giving connection refused so something is obviously still borked22:06
Ampelbeincorno: most likely you have a faulty piece of hardware on your side22:06
Ampelbeinpenguin42: http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus says it is fixed, maybe ask in #launchpad22:06
penguin42corno: : I've seen that happen with bad ram22:07
cornopenguin42, doing it on the same files, every time?22:07
penguin42corno: I've got to admit that's more unusual unless it's the big file22:08
penguin42corno: Or it's in a cache somewhere that's corrupt22:08
penguin42Ampelbein: Thanks, asked22:08
cornopenguin42, am doing the pbuild differently now, and didn't see the corrupt message again for some of the files22:09
cornohave been breaking like that when i ran this:  pbuilder-dist natty create22:09
Ampelbeinpenguin42: I just noticed elmo changed topic 20 minutes ago in #launchpad22:09
Ampelbein"PPA uploads are down"22:09
cornothis time around i'm using this:  sudo pbuilder create --debootstrapopts --variant=buildd22:09
cornoand i'm getting [better] results.22:10
cornoso far it has only broke on a locale file22:10
penguin42Ampelbein: Oh yeh; I really should read topics :-(22:10
cornoand there it still breaks on udev :(22:10
cornocan i somehow force this pbuild process to contact a different server perhaps?22:11
cornoas a test?22:11
Ampelbeincorno: with the --mirror option, yes22:12
cornoAmpelbein, thanks22:12
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cornowill try again tomorrow, for now i'm out. thanks for all help so far.22:18
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ScottKLaney: RE your blog post: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/foundations-o-backports-bof/23:37
timholumDoes anyone know where the source for the ubuntu search menu is that is new in 11.04?23:50
timholumI would like to write a small patch for it23:50
achiangtimholum: that is called the dash23:58
timholumachiang: thanks that will probably help me find it :)23:58
achiangtimholum: so i guess you can do: apt-get source unity23:58
achiangand start reading. :)23:58
timholum:) ok, do you know what language the dash is written in by chance ?23:59
achiangtimholum: although depending on what you want to do, you may find that writing a "lens" is closer to what you want23:59
achianga lens would be used to extend dash functionality23:59
achianga patch would be to change/fix existing functionality23:59
timholumok so if I wanted to make \\192.168.1.50 open up a smb connection23:59
timholumthat would probably be a lens23:59

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