doesnt look right [20:49] i dont see where topiclinks is defined (or even know if something can be two classes at once) [20:50] is "topics" supposed to be an attribute, like topic="link" ? [20:50] s/link/links [20:50] ah, perhaps I haven't broken it after all then. That's not something I have done [20:51] although I don't know if that is causing this issue [20:51] idk either, i dont have a FF plugin installed to change the page source on the fly to test either [20:51] don't think that is the issue actually [20:52] shaun's html had it too, and the mouseovers worked (http://people.gnome.org/~shaunm/ubuntu/index.html) [20:56] hmmmm [20:57] it would help if the source was formatted [20:58] there is absolutely nothing wrong with having multiple words in the class attribute [20:58] perfectly valid html, and actually quite common [20:59] hi shaunm [20:59] hey [20:59] we were just scratching around [21:00] mdke, check out the css classes that start with "li." [21:00] yours are different [21:00] shaunm's have more detail, like webkit and moz stuff [21:01] hmm. I copied and pasted those I though [21:01] +t [21:01] mdke: so two culprits here on the positioning thing [21:02] 1) body has "position: relative". I removed that in 3.0.1 exactly because of this bug you're seeing. is your customization adding it back? [21:03] 2) #round also has "position: relative". not sure if that's on purpose or what effect it's supposed to have [21:03] basically, "position: relative" totally screws up positioning code [21:04] ah. [21:04] I think i took it because i saw it in the 3.0.0 css [21:05] because what ends up happening in javascript (annoyingly) is that offsets are reported from the top-left of the document, but setting positions sets them from the top-left of the inner-most relative-positioned thing [21:05] (for 1) [21:05] for 2 it was in the code for help.ubuntu.com already I think [21:06] yeah, I set #round to "position:static" using firebug, and it screws some things up [21:06] :/ [21:07] ah, I see how that's laid out [21:08] ok, so if i set the margins for #round instead maybe that will work [21:08] I see that the mouseovers are working :) [21:10] oh no, that won't work [21:11] im gonna go running guys, i'll bbl to work some more [21:11] there are other ways to get these things positioned [21:12] Rocket2DMn: see ya [21:14] all right, there we go [21:15] now how do I get firebug to tell me everything I just changed? [21:18] I'm making some slow progress... by defining the width of topcap and bottomcap and setting them margin: auto [21:18] is that the sort of thing? [21:21] that seems to work, I need to move the search bar but otherwise it looks alright [21:23] wondering if I should include instructions for how to change the # of workspaces in Unity [21:24] and if so, should it be via command line, gconf-editor, or ccsm [21:25] jbicha: ccsm? [21:25] compiz-config-settings-manager [21:26] I believe ccsm has too many buttons & gconf-editor is not ideal either [21:27] are any of them exposed via the gui? [21:27] shaunm: you're a genius, all seems working now [21:28] those 2 apps are extra installs [21:29] mdke: all? you got all the topcap/bottomcap stuff fixed with the positioning? [21:29] but the command line is simple, just gconftool-2 --type=int --set /apps/compiz-1/general/screen0/options/hsize 2 [21:29] and the same for vsize [21:29] shaunm: I think so. Let me publish it and you can tell me if it works [21:29] jbicha: gconf-editor is installed on my system, has it been removed now? [21:30] awesome, then I can stop editing ubuntu.xsl myself [21:31] shaunm: I just removed position:relative and added width: 876px; margin: auto; - I think [21:32] and I edited the html to close div page a bit earlier [21:32] yeah, I was finding a one-pixel glitch with the border vs the topcap image when I was doing that [21:33] I don't seem to be seeing that [21:33] ok, I might have screwed up when I did it [21:33] I didn't see the problem when I did the edits in firebug, just when I tried to recreate them in ubuntu.xsl [21:34] I really wish firebug could give me some sort of diff against what came from the server. hard to remember what all I changed sometimes [21:36] yeah, that does seem to be a strange absence [21:38] this looks nice [21:39] damn it, stop doing our help better than us [21:39] reminds me of high school, when I had to write a book report and I hadn't read the book. so I read my friend's book report, and wrote mine based on that. [21:39] he got a C. I got an A. [21:43] hah. Hardly better - ours has been very rushed [21:43] but we owe you a lot [21:44] you should be very proud of Mallard [21:44] and everything it has inspired [21:46] damn. shaunm - do you remember what you did with sitename? [21:49] @mdke you're right, gconf-editor is installed by default, it's a bit complicated to give directions though [21:51] mdke: "clear: right; float: right; margin-top: 30px;" I think [21:52] I also have #cse-search-box as "float: right" [21:52] * mdke nods [21:54] back [21:54] i see you got the mouseover thing working mdke [21:54] shaunm: got it, thanks. I can't tell you how much I appreciate all your help with this sort of thing [21:55] Rocket2DMn: with shaunm we have reimplemented some of the css [21:55] very cool [21:55] ok, we're ready to build and go live then [21:55] will any of that CSS be used with the ubuntu-docs stuff or is the html too different? [21:56] mdke, also, are you going to update the branding in the upper left corner? it's still using the old image [21:58] Rocket2DMn: most of the CSS comes from the ubuntu-docs stuff [21:58] cool [21:59] Rocket2DMn: re branding, I hadn't intended to because it really requires a new image to be made - for me that can await the redesign of the whole website [21:59] hm i thought we had one in the ligs/images directory already [22:00] ah i guess not one that says Documentation on it [22:03] right [22:09] mdke, am i correct in thinking that you committed the fix for bug 687995 [22:09] Launchpad bug 687995 in ubuntu-docs "search.html is obsolete?" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/687995 [22:09] looks like you took part of dustin's merge request - http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~kirkland/ubuntu-docs/687995/revision/597 [22:10] yes, but i'm worried we need to get a new value from him once 11.04 is live [22:10] is that something that is going to need to be updated every release? [22:11] might be [22:46] mdke, i see ubuntu-docs 11.04.2 in natty. the changelog is dated a week ago. How come the relevant bugs did not get updated? [22:46] the debian changelog is small [22:47] Rocket2DMn: were the bugs correctly mentioned in the changelog? [22:48] there arent any bugs mentioned in the changelog, but i have been committing with the --fixes option, the natty source branch is being linked to bugs [22:48] the bugs have to be mentioned in the changelog [22:48] but I'm not sure that your fixes came before that upload [22:49] the stuff ive done this last week wouldnt be there, but we have 68 bugs in Fix Committed state [22:49] that didnt all happen in the last week [22:49] cripes [22:50] no I doubt that I picked them up in the changelog... [22:50] do they have to be in the changelog to be fixed automatically on LP? I would think that bzr would pick up the rev number that is pulled into ubuntu release [22:50] any revs prior to that would be "fix released" [22:51] i guess thats not how it works... [22:53] mdke, do i need to make my way through the bugs and confirm that they are fixed and update the status? [22:53] Rocket2DMn: I don't believe so. Perhaps if the branch is on the ubuntu project, but not if it is in an upstream project [22:54] i thought that in the past the branch was merged into the ubuntu project (eg lp:ubuntu/ubuntu-docs/natty) [22:54] Rocket2DMn: yes, either that or we add them to the next changelog. But the amount of work is about the same [22:55] Rocket2DMn: no, that's a separate branch which is imported based on uploads, not revisions in the upstream project [22:56] what does that mean "imported based on uploads"? [22:56] our normal branch is considered upstream right? [22:56] each upload to ubuntu is a revision [22:57] how is that upload done? [22:57] you mean how are uploads to Ubuntu done? [22:58] the source package is sent via ftp using the "dput" command [22:58] so you get our trunk in a state you want, then push the whole directory structure via ftp? [22:59] (trunk or branch) [23:02] mdke, your last commit on 4/22 was to refresh pot files - did you do the upload after that? if so, i can safely say that anything committed in revisions prior to that is fixed in natty now [23:03] that was rev 617 [23:03] essentially the source package builds directly from an export of the branch using the command "debuild -S". Then that gets uploaded. But none fo the bzr revision gets uploaded [23:04] ok, i would have thought they would keep a bzr branch and just merge a range of revisions, i guess not though, thanks for explaining [23:09] Rocket2DMn: sorry, having some internet slowness. The last revision that got uploaded is usually one called "New changelog entry" [23:10] ok mdke , in this case rev 616 [23:11] Rocket2DMn: if revision 617 was very close after that, it probably went too [23:11] I probably just goforgot to do it [23:12] ok, i see you made some commits to h.u.c. branch, are those the latest docs in trunk now that dont align with what's deployed into natty repos? [23:12] (since weve made a lot of change sin the last week) [23:13] correct [23:14] heh, alright, just makes it more confusing for me :) [23:15] i thought it would be a good idea to work on documentation for all of the apps that are installed by default on ubuntu. i thought something like evolution might be kind of challenging. [23:15] i didn't really think of this, though. http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/www/documentation/msg02107.html [23:16] ok i need to grab some food before i tackle updating these bug statuses [23:17] i'll go through and try to update as many as i can as fix released where applicable [23:17] Rocket2DMn: thanks [23:17] Rocket2DMn: hoping to bring natty up to date very shortly though [23:17] lets just mark all fix committed as fix released :) [23:18] Rocket2DMn: thanks for working on that [23:19] np [23:20] there are a ton of other bugs that are somewhat more difficult to fix that need our attention as well, but that can wait a couple of days [23:37] the subtitles' font looks smaller than their descriptions at http://doc.ubuntu.com/~mdke/natty/files.html [23:38] also the icon didn't copy for http://doc.ubuntu.com/~mdke/natty/a11y-icon.html