| Logan_ | LjL: why didn't FloodBot1 kick the DCC sender? | 00:43 |
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| Logan_ | seems somewhat odd | 00:43 |
| LjL | Logan_: because who cares really? they're banned anyway | 00:43 |
| Logan_ | heh, true | 00:43 |
| Logan_ | I'm surprised at how many people still have that vulnerability | 00:43 |
| LjL | Logan_: but seriously, kicking would be one more line to put into the send queue. and it's mostly a useless line at that. and we want as little stuff in the send queue as possible. | 00:44 |
| LjL | sure i could put it into the slow queue, but. | 00:44 |
| Logan_ | mmk | 00:44 |
| Logan_ | LjL: do you know how well Gnome3 works on Natty using that PPA? | 00:49 |
| Logan_ | I'm considering installing it instead of Unity | 00:49 |
| m4v | !gnome3-#ubuntu+1 | Logan_ | 00:51 |
| m4v | bohh | 00:52 |
| Logan_ | it's just !gnome3 now | 00:52 |
| m4v | it used to wrok.. | 00:52 |
| Logan_ | I had Pici forget the one with the suffix | 00:52 |
| LjL | Logan_: i haven't tried it (i don't even have natty), but i did hear rumors it actually broke things for people | 00:53 |
| LjL | IdleOne: maybe i could if i had any access :P | 00:53 |
| m4v | Logan_: one of our ops is using it, without much trouble afaik. But you know is inestable .. | 00:53 |
| Logan_ | great, thanks! | 00:54 |
| m4v | he also told me that using ppa-purge works in case it breaks stuff. But I wouldn't trust it still. Be ready for reinstall ;) | 00:55 |
| arand | I'm wondering if the factoid should specify that it breaks unity, and there is no good safe downgrade path.. Or if that should just be left as implied.. | 00:57 |
| LjL | i think it should | 00:57 |
| LjL | !gnome3 | 00:57 |
| ubottu | Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are _experimental_, _unstable_ and may break your system. | 00:57 |
| m4v | the only downgrade path afaik is « sudo apt-get install ppa-purge && sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3 » but I don't know if it is safe or guaranteed to work | 00:58 |
| LjL | !no gnome3 is <reply> Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible. | 00:58 |
| arand | =) It would be more appropriately named !caveats | 01:00 |
| LjL | !gnome3 =~ s/$/ Additionally, they may eat your children and cause demons to come out of your nose./ | 01:00 |
| m4v | come on, be serious! | 01:01 |
| Logan_ | hehe | 01:01 |
| IdleOne | LjL: added, thank you for your attention to detail. | 01:02 |
| IdleOne | especially the demon out the nose part. I was not aware of that | 01:02 |
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| topyli | trying gnome3 also inevitably makes either unity or gnome-shell suck terribly | 08:31 |
| Tm_T | awww | 08:31 |
| topyli | at least everyone who has tried both seems to be forced to post "unity sucks, gnome-shell is awesome" or vice versa on twitter | 08:32 |
| Tm_T | topyli: then I refuse to test either, I don't like to behave like that | 08:32 |
| topyli | yeah, think about the damages to the average quality of free software when entire desktops suddenly start to suck :( | 08:36 |
| cdbs | topyli: You don't like Unity/ | 09:26 |
| * cdbs uses both regularly | 09:26 | |
| topyli | cdbs: i tried it and it was pretty nice, no complaints based on a short trial | 09:27 |
| cdbs | topyli: And what do you say about Gs? | 09:28 |
| cdbs | *GS | 09:28 |
| topyli | it's quite awesome, but i only tested a live cd. not everything worked | 09:29 |
| topyli | i couldn't get wifi to work for example, or change keyboard layouts | 09:30 |
| topyli | irc on empathy was also quite amusing :) | 09:33 |
| jussi | topyli is a K boy now ;) | 09:50 |
| topyli | ktopyli | 09:51 |
| MichealH | Kirc :P | 09:52 |
| * MichealH was tempted to say 'Kircc" :P | 09:53 | |
| MichealH | OMG Bugs everywhere | 09:53 |
| MichealH | :/ | 09:54 |
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| Fuchs | Pici: since you seem to be online, can I ask you something regarding the #ubuntu+1 channel? | 17:05 |
| Pici | Fuchs: sure | 17:05 |
| Fuchs | Pici: as far as I am informed you forward people to the regular channel after the new Ubuntu version got released | 17:06 |
| Fuchs | Pici: if this is correct: how? With a regular forward bann, masking all masks with *!*@*? | 17:06 |
| Pici | Fuchs: No. The channel is +i +f #ubuntu | 17:07 |
| Fuchs | ah, +f, didn't know this one. Thanks, we'll try this out :) | 17:07 |
| Pici | Let us know if you need any further help | 17:07 |
| Fuchs | We try it right now, I'll come back to you if it doesn't work. But I just found it in the freenode documentation (guess I used the wrong keywords when I tried to find it) now, so I guess we'll find it out. | 17:09 |
| Fuchs | Thanks for your help | 17:09 |
| Pici | np :) | 17:10 |
| GoThatWay | Hello, can someone help me with my problem after the upgrade? I can't see any menu, i only see the desktop and folders in it... :( | 17:21 |
| GoThatWay | is it the right channel? | 17:21 |
| k1l | GoThatWay: this is not that kind of supportchannel :) try #ubuntu | 17:22 |
| GoThatWay | woops | 17:22 |
| GoThatWay | all right thx | 17:22 |
| Fuchs | Pici: it worked, thanks | 17:22 |
| k1l | or #ubuntu-it for italien | 17:22 |
| GoThatWay | thx very much | 17:22 |
| arand | I am wondering, there are on and off people zealously discouraging people from upgrading... With little motivation other than personal preference and hearsay... | 17:48 |
| arand | In #ubuntu, that is | 17:48 |
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| topyli | arand: it's off topic to begin with | 17:49 |
| arand | Yes, true, I guess, though they will obviously claim that they are "helping", well, I guess it's just a matter of taking the encounters... | 17:51 |
| vish | arand: i've been using the !ot for such folks, and asking them to discuss there.. | 17:51 |
| arand | vish: Yea, that sounds like a good procedure. | 17:52 |
| JaredisAwesome | I was trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 last night and my stupidass hit shutdown during the middle of the upgrade. Now whenever I boot its telling me I'm missing some drivers, and that Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode (though i cannot make it past that dialogue). Whenever i try to boot into recovery mode it doesn't seem to fully boot properly either. Is there anything i can do to fix this upgrade? Or should I just do | 18:14 |
| Pici | JaredisAwesome: This isn't a support channel, try #ubuntu | 18:17 |
| JaredisAwesome | my bad | 18:18 |
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