| nerdful_things | greetings, I've been changing drives and recordings I put intp my new myth build from the backup drive are not seen in my recordings menu. Recordings being made now are ok. I brought over all files of each title. | 01:38 |
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| nerdful_things | Do I have to do some database command for the system to see them? | 01:41 |
| nerdful_things | OK, I think, I see some info in the forums... | 01:46 |
| nerdful_things | Darn, link is empty. | 01:48 |
| nerdful_things | OK, I son't really need them in the myth system if I can watch on VLC. The problem is VLC will open the recording, but does not play, it justs shows the first moment of the video as a still. The play button shows as pause as though it is playing, but the image is frozen to the first frame. | 01:54 |
| nerdful_things | I get this in the vlc term window: libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS discontinuity (received 3, expected 13) for PID 5632. | 01:55 |
| tgm4883 | nerdful_things, ok, one thing at a time | 02:02 |
| tgm4883 | you brought recordings from an old drive and copied them onto a drive in your new mythtv system | 02:03 |
| nerdful_things | yes | 02:03 |
| tgm4883 | did you restore the database from your old mythtv install? | 02:03 |
| nerdful_things | no, this is a virgin install | 02:03 |
| tgm4883 | right, but the recordings from your old mythtv system | 02:03 |
| tgm4883 | the database from that mythtv install, did you back it up? | 02:04 |
| nerdful_things | No, I just copied the recording folder over. NM, I don't really need to restore them, as most will be delete3d after I review them. | 02:05 |
| tgm4883 | what directory did you copy them into? | 02:05 |
| nerdful_things | The bottom line is I am juggling stuff to make drive space and free up a spare drive. | 02:06 |
| nerdful_things | I copied the .mpg, .idx, and i forget the other from the backup to the var/lib/mythtv/recordings. | 02:06 |
| tgm4883 | do you still have your old mythtv install? | 02:07 |
| nerdful_things | I'd just like to play them on VLC for now, just to review and delete. Usually VLC works well. | 02:07 |
| tgm4883 | ok, so mythtv isn't going to see those recordings without them being in the database | 02:08 |
| tgm4883 | VLC should play them, so if it's not this isn't really the place to get VLC support | 02:08 |
| nerdful_things | Ok, let's back up.. (And thanks for helping, btw)... I just made a virgin install from the livecd. I put in all my channels, tweaked the desktop, etc. I wanted to backup the partition to a split file using Clonezilla, etc for a custom install on various boxes. | 02:09 |
| nerdful_things | I had recordings stored on backup drives, and just wanted to have clean drives to image to. | 02:10 |
| nerdful_things | So I now don't really care about playing them in myth now that it is more than a folder or permissions thing... | 02:11 |
| nerdful_things | The VLC is puzzling, as it never gives a problem. At the moment, I was looking for Handbrake in the synaptic repo, to shrink any old recordings to archives if any are worth saving. | 02:13 |
| nerdful_things | Before clogging up my new myth install (Only 5.6GB) with something like "the wedding" for the wife tomorrow, I wanted to have a custom clone to re-install later on other machines.. | 02:15 |
| nerdful_things | Pointing me to Handbrake, or even some ffmpg scripts is all I need now... | 02:16 |
| nerdful_things | Figured I'd put any important recordings on my rooted Nook android. | 02:17 |
| tgm4883 | I don't recall if handbrake is in the official repos or not. I run the daily build from a ppa | 02:19 |
| tgm4883 | https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa | 02:20 |
| Zinn | [launchpad.net] PPA for HandBrake Ubuntu Packagers : âHandBrake Ubuntu Packagersâ team | 02:20 |
| tgm4883 | https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots | 02:20 |
| Zinn | [launchpad.net] HandBrake Snapshots : John Stebbins | 02:20 |
| tgm4883 | I use the second one | 02:20 |
| nerdful_things | I just saw this: http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=2100... but I will now read your advice, thanks! | 02:21 |
| Zinn | [www.jonathanmoeller.com] Install Handbrake On Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat » Help Desk Screeds | 02:21 |
| nerdful_things | guess the bot knows about it... | 02:22 |
| nerdful_things | I love handbrake on my PCLinuxOS laptop to process stuff for the Nook color. | 02:23 |
| * Patrickdk installs an iscsi root frontend | 02:25 | |
| mycoDA | tgm4883 - not for me but is the an 'official' ppa other than mainline through which one could get an updated kernel for lucid? | 02:25 |
| mycoDA | ie get the natty kernel? | 02:25 |
| tgm4883 | mycoDA, IIRC there is a kernel backport PPA | 02:26 |
| nerdful_things | I forgot I had jumped all those hoops to put handbrake on the install I just wrote over... | 02:26 |
| mycoDA | somebody on overclockers.com.au wanted to know | 02:26 |
| mycoDA | had epic argument with newb over me saying i liked my HID remote kb/mouse emulator yesterday | 02:27 |
| mycoDA | turns out he hated HID cos he was trying to run XBMD and mythfrontend at the same time | 02:28 |
| mycoDA | XBMC would grab the keypresses | 02:28 |
| nerdful_things | why someone argue that you like something of yours? | 02:28 |
| nerdful_things | oh | 02:28 |
| mycoDA | some other newb asked what remotes people were using and i linked to it | 02:28 |
| nerdful_things | hey mycoDA | 02:29 |
| mycoDA | saying in the post that it is what _I_ use and most people would recommend mce USB | 02:29 |
| mycoDA | yars? | 02:29 |
| nerdful_things | wern't you helping me other day. | 02:29 |
| mycoDA | rings a bell lol | 02:29 |
| nerdful_things | I found sound fix. | 02:29 |
| mycoDA | ahhhhhhh | 02:29 |
| mycoDA | sorry - giving up smokes - head is a fog | 02:30 |
| mycoDA | remember it was alsa issues on an nvidia mobo, forget which specific issues | 02:30 |
| nerdful_things | re-install, (which I wanted to do anyway to make a clone copy), and found out some weird hoops to jump to get alsa running on optical. | 02:30 |
| nerdful_things | Let me look at my notes, just FYI... | 02:31 |
| mycoDA | nforce specific hoops? | 02:31 |
| nerdful_things | Ok, install myth 10.10 a64 from live cd, install my HDHomerun etc. etc. Now th sound... | 02:32 |
| nerdful_things | audio out device: alsa:default | 02:33 |
| nerdful_things | 5.1, best upconv, | 02:34 |
| nerdful_things | dig out dev:default, dolby, dfs checked. | 02:34 |
| nerdful_things | oops dts. | 02:34 |
| nerdful_things | go to desktop launch, to multimedia, mixer | 02:35 |
| nerdful_things | select playback controls master, pcm. | 02:36 |
| mycoDA | you didnt unmute it did you | 02:37 |
| nerdful_things | also iec958 playback ac97-spsa,eec...pb source. | 02:37 |
| mycoDA | i told you to unmute it | 02:37 |
| nerdful_things | wait, it gets better... | 02:37 |
| mycoDA | cept i said use alsamixer | 02:37 |
| nerdful_things | playback pots: master, mid, pcm mid, ac97-apsa pot DOWN TO ZERO....options:iec958 pb source pcm. | 02:39 |
| nerdful_things | # after sound ok, I removed all but master pots, and sound stayed ok... | 02:40 |
| nerdful_things | I found the pot to zero glitch, after much forum reading and hair loss. | 02:40 |
| nerdful_things | Now I want to back up my entire virgin partition, which is now at only 3.6GB. | 02:41 |
| mycoDA | lulwut???? | 02:41 |
| nerdful_things | yeah, you have to put the iec pot down to zero, then the receiver bursts into life. | 02:42 |
| nerdful_things | I was going to throw handbrake in now, but forgot all about the ppa process I totally have forgotten. | 02:44 |
| nerdful_things | Soon my virgin install is going to be polluted with wedding tomorrow... | 02:45 |
| nerdful_things | I couldn't find space to clone it... | 02:45 |
| mycoDA | time to reboot an add some more ram methinks | 02:48 |
| nerdful_things | So, any tips on archiving my mythtv "recordings" with Handbrake? Mine are mostly 1080 from HDHomerun. | 03:26 |
| ShallSee | I just installed Mythbuntu 10.06 (or something) updated to 11.*** and now, I run the setup, but it fails where it should be coming into the graphical setup portion... Anyone help me out????? | 14:46 |
| ShallSee | and Hi ppl | 14:46 |
| ShallSee | Is there maybe a way to force the graphical portion... (It's the part where you specify your card and stuff) | 14:48 |
| tmkt | delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf | 14:48 |
| mycosys | what video card? | 14:48 |
| mycosys | and - i would have stuck with 10.04 - it is a long term support release | 14:49 |
| mycosys | shallsee - what video card are you using | 14:49 |
| rhpot1991 | eh, most of us devs run latest and greatest so lts is over rated | 14:50 |
| ShallSee | I'm thinking I have a ATI Radeon 9600 Pro | 14:50 |
| ShallSee | with a Hauppage tuner | 14:50 |
| ShallSee | Is it actually to do with X??? | 14:50 |
| ShallSee | like, that seems strange... It's the setup, not running on after it does that database stuff | 14:51 |
| ShallSee | it runs mythfilldatabase, then just sits there doing nothing | 14:52 |
| mycosys | your video card WILL cause you issues | 14:52 |
| mycosys | if you can get it to work at all with myth | 14:52 |
| ShallSee | what does it do if it doesn't work??? | 14:52 |
| mycosys | i dont think the proprietary Driver will work with an antique like that | 14:52 |
| mycosys | and even the proprietary driver has issues | 14:53 |
| ShallSee | I've had this box running linux mint prior | 14:53 |
| mycosys | so? | 14:53 |
| ShallSee | tmkt, You reacon that'll do the trick? | 14:53 |
| mycosys | what is its cpu? | 14:53 |
| mycosys | it wont shellsee | 14:53 |
| mycosys | your gpu is not going to play nice with myth - save yourself much pain | 14:54 |
| mycosys | what is your cpu? | 14:54 |
| mycosys | what is your tuner? | 14:54 |
| ShallSee | I got a P4, 3.0, Hauppage tuner, with a ATI Radeon 256 Mb Vid card | 14:57 |
| mycosys | what tuner? | 14:57 |
| rhpot1991 | HD or SD tuner? | 14:57 |
| mycosys | the p4 MIGHT be enough | 14:57 |
| ShallSee | HD | 14:57 |
| rhpot1991 | ya thats borderline good enough for HD | 14:57 |
| mycosys | should be ok then with digital | 14:57 |
| ShallSee | and even, just want the box as a box | 14:57 |
| ShallSee | I'm not worried about HD | 14:57 |
| mycosys | lulwut???? | 14:57 |
| mycosys | the hd question is more about analog or digital | 14:58 |
| rhpot1991 | ShallSee: so you get to the installer and it hangs at the graphics portion? | 14:58 |
| ShallSee | I'm just wanting to see it work | 14:58 |
| ShallSee | Yea | 14:58 |
| ShallSee | it just sits there | 14:58 |
| mycosys | if you had a cheap framegrabber analog it would not be a good enough cpu | 14:58 |
| mycosys | do you have an onboard intel gpu? | 14:59 |
| mycosys | if so, ditch the radeon | 14:59 |
| ShallSee | (I can feel the need for me to reinstall the setup again, just to try it again) | 14:59 |
| ShallSee | Radeon is fine... It's a Pro... | 14:59 |
| mycosys | it should cope with you just pulling the ati, this isnt windows | 14:59 |
| mycosys | it sint fine | 14:59 |
| mycosys | radeon drivers for linux are junk, and it is nearly a decade old | 15:00 |
| ShallSee | Hence why it's pro... Legacy is good shit | 15:00 |
| Zinn | ShallSee: Please watch your language. | 15:00 |
| ShallSee | Nice bot... :D | 15:00 |
| mycosys | huh???? | 15:00 |
| mycosys | RADEON DRIVERS FOR LINUX ARE JUNK | 15:00 |
| mycosys | there aRE NONE BEING WORked on for that antique | 15:01 |
| mycosys | IT WONT WORK IN WINDOWS VISTA OR 7 EITHER | 15:01 |
| mycosys | WHY WOULD IT WORK IN MYTH??? | 15:01 |
| ShallSee | I'm not trying to setup for Windows 7???? | 15:01 |
| mycosys | ffs | 15:01 |
| ShallSee | It's a backend... | 15:01 |
| mycosys | PULL IT OUT | 15:01 |
| mycosys | use nvidia or intel | 15:02 |
| mycosys | ati is a showstopper for myth, esp on the open source drivers | 15:02 |
| ShallSee | The box is planned as a backend... | 15:02 |
| mycosys | so no issue with having intel gfx then | 15:03 |
| mycosys | you realise you want decent cpu power on a backend - it doesnt just sit there doing nothing? | 15:03 |
| mycosys | the database work, scheduling and commercial flagging are not lightweight | 15:04 |
| ShallSee | You realise that I don't want HD, I don't need all the functions that are included... I merely need it set up | 15:04 |
| mycosys | you realise that ATI doesnt work | 15:05 |
| mycosys | and nothing i talked about had anything to do with HD | 15:05 |
| rhpot1991 | ShallSee: does the box have onboard video? | 15:05 |
| ShallSee | No | 15:05 |
| mycosys | the only reason you got asked about HD is your machine is too pathetic to handle most SD analog cards | 15:05 |
| mycosys | do you have an old nvidia card hanging around, even a ruddy tnt? | 15:06 |
| * ShallSee is aware of the ATI Issues with linux, But I have a card that IS supported... | 15:06 | |
| mycosys | the only reason it can handle recording digital is it doesnt have to do any encoding | 15:07 |
| mycosys | how can you have a card that is supported? it isnt | 15:07 |
| ShallSee | I'm only wanting it for the fact that the card, picks up satelite... | 15:07 |
| ShallSee | I know how to install the card, I'm not a brand new user | 15:07 |
| mycosys | so? | 15:07 |
| ShallSee | So???? You been flaming the entire time I'm in here | 15:08 |
| mycosys | myth doesnt work with the open source ati drivers | 15:08 |
| mycosys | i have not been flaming - you have been condascending toward somebody trying to help you | 15:08 |
| ShallSee | I'm sure I seen it asking to install the AMD drivers... | 15:08 |
| mycosys | who has been using *nix for 20 years | 15:08 |
| mycosys | and who has tried what you are trying | 15:08 |
| ShallSee | I'm hesitant to accept your help as the nature of your pursueing of this issue, is confrontational | 15:09 |
| mycosys | it didnt start that way | 15:09 |
| ShallSee | It's also Biased, as would anyone who knows about Nvida, ati and inux... | 15:09 |
| ShallSee | would be,. | 15:09 |
| mycosys | tell ya what - PLEASE go knock urself out | 15:10 |
| mycosys | have fun | 15:10 |
| ShallSee | I will... | 15:10 |
| mycosys | get it working - i am sure you are able | 15:10 |
| mycosys | you will probably have better luck using x forwarding to run mythtv setup | 15:11 |
| mycosys | from a machine with working opengl | 15:11 |
| mycosys | mythbackend doesnt need x running at all to run | 15:11 |
| * rhpot1991 tells everyone to calm down | 15:14 | |
| tmkt | ShallSee: I'd say so...can't hurt | 15:33 |
| tmkt | mv xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak | 15:33 |
| tmkt | and reboot | 15:33 |
| superm1 | ShallSee, check if you have fglrx installed from the upgrade | 15:36 |
| superm1 | you shouldn't, but if you do it doesn't work w/ the 9600 | 15:37 |
| superm1 | so removing it should hopefully take care of your problem | 15:37 |
| ShallSee | Currently, I'm reinstalling, and keeping to the 10 rather than updating | 15:38 |
| mycosys | sorry i got so animated - quitting smoking, and was trying to save you a painful experience that i went through too | 15:39 |
| mycosys | have quite a few o those cards, fortunately also have others lol | 15:40 |
| mycosys | oddly, the intel 915 outperforms the 9600pro | 15:40 |
| mycosys | just PLEASE dont waste too much time on that ruddy card - your time is worth more than that | 15:41 |
| jdeslip | Hi all. I have a question about the Android remote support. Is there an official MythBuntu app somewhere? | 21:42 |
| jdeslip | i.e. what is new about this? There is has been a mythtv remote app in the android market for years already. | 21:43 |
| tgm4883 | jdeslip, no, I don't think there is an official mythtv app either | 21:43 |
| tgm4883 | IIRC, there are qr codes to install it in MCC now | 21:43 |
| jdeslip | tgm4883: Is that it? Just qr code that links to the market? | 21:44 |
| tgm4883 | jdeslip, Perhaps, I didn't code that bit so I'm unsure | 21:44 |
| tgm4883 | superm1, ^ | 21:44 |
| superm1 | yeah that's what it is | 21:47 |
| superm1 | just raises visibility of what's there | 21:47 |
| jdeslip | superm1: Ah ok. I was hoping it was something more exciting like a new API for remotes in MythTV or something. | 22:19 |
| jdeslip | I'm interested in an http based by API that lets you also view things like the video collection/recordings etc... | 22:20 |
| tgm4883 | jdeslip, doesn't one of the apps already do that? | 22:22 |
| tgm4883 | mythdroid I think | 22:22 |
| zuixro | How stable is the 64 bit build of Mythbuntu? I've been using it since I built my new computer, and I've had nothing but problems. I'm wondering if it's my hardware or just the software. | 22:44 |
| tgm4883 | zuixro, I've run it without issues for multiple years | 22:46 |
| zuixro | tgm4883, I've been running it for about a month, and I've been strugling to get the backend stable. I had it running fine for a bit, but then it just decided to stop working. | 22:47 |
| tgm4883 | zuixro, logs? | 22:51 |
| zuixro | Here's a complete session that ran for a couple of hours: http://pastebin.com/1htvWTRM | 22:52 |
| Zinn | [pastebin.com] 2011-04-29 08:52:44.228 mythbackend version: fixes/0.24 [v0.24-250-g56c54fa] www - Pastebin.com | 22:52 |
| zuixro | I also have a "verbose all" log from a session that lasted a couple of minutes. I'll post it in a minute | 22:53 |
| zuixro | Erm... Turns out it's 23MB, which I think is too big for pastebin | 22:55 |
| zuixro | Ok, it broke pastebin, but here's a link to it: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/409453/mythbackend.log | 22:58 |
| jdeslip | tgm4883: I didn't even know mythdroid existed since it is not on the market yet. | 23:03 |
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