[01:38] <nerdful_things> greetings, I've been changing drives and recordings I put intp my new myth build from the backup drive are not seen in my recordings menu. Recordings being made now are ok. I brought over all files of each title.
[01:41] <nerdful_things> Do I have to do some database command for the system to see them?
[01:46] <nerdful_things> OK, I think, I see some info in the forums...
[01:48] <nerdful_things> Darn, link is empty.
[01:54] <nerdful_things> OK, I son't really need them in the myth system if  I can watch on VLC. The problem is VLC will open the recording, but does not play, it justs shows the first moment of the video as a still. The play button shows as pause as though it is playing, but the image is frozen to the first frame.
[01:55] <nerdful_things> I get this in the vlc term window:  libdvbpsi error (PSI decoder): TS discontinuity (received 3, expected 13) for PID 5632.
[02:02] <tgm4883> nerdful_things, ok, one thing at a time
[02:03] <tgm4883> you brought recordings from an old drive and copied them onto a drive in your new mythtv system
[02:03] <nerdful_things> yes
[02:03] <tgm4883> did you restore the database from your old mythtv install?
[02:03] <nerdful_things> no, this is a virgin install
[02:03] <tgm4883> right, but the recordings from your old mythtv system
[02:04] <tgm4883> the database from that mythtv install, did you back it up?
[02:05] <nerdful_things> No, I just copied the recording folder over. NM, I don't really need to restore them, as most will be delete3d after I review them.
[02:05] <tgm4883> what directory did you copy them into?
[02:06] <nerdful_things> The bottom line is I am juggling stuff to make drive space and free up a spare drive.
[02:06] <nerdful_things> I copied the .mpg, .idx, and i forget the other from the backup to the var/lib/mythtv/recordings.
[02:07] <tgm4883> do you still have your old mythtv install?
[02:07] <nerdful_things> I'd just like to play them on VLC for now, just to review and delete. Usually VLC works well.
[02:08] <tgm4883> ok, so mythtv isn't going to see those recordings without them being in the database
[02:08] <tgm4883> VLC should play them, so if it's not this isn't really the place to get VLC support
[02:09] <nerdful_things> Ok, let's back up.. (And thanks for helping, btw)... I just made a virgin install from the livecd. I put in all my channels, tweaked the desktop, etc. I wanted to backup the partition to a split file using Clonezilla, etc for a custom install on various boxes.
[02:10] <nerdful_things> I had recordings stored on backup drives, and just wanted to have clean drives to image to.
[02:11] <nerdful_things> So I now don't really care about playing them in myth now that it is more than a folder or permissions thing...
[02:13] <nerdful_things> The VLC is puzzling, as it never gives a problem. At the moment, I was looking for Handbrake in the synaptic repo, to shrink any old recordings to archives if any are worth saving.
[02:15] <nerdful_things> Before clogging up my new myth install (Only 5.6GB) with something like "the wedding" for the wife tomorrow, I wanted to have a custom clone to re-install later on other machines..
[02:16] <nerdful_things> Pointing me to Handbrake, or even some ffmpg scripts is all I need now...
[02:17] <nerdful_things> Figured I'd put any important recordings on my rooted Nook android.
[02:19] <tgm4883> I don't recall if handbrake is in the official repos or not. I run the daily build from a ppa
[02:20] <tgm4883> https://launchpad.net/~handbrake-ubuntu/+archive/ppa
[02:20] <Zinn> [launchpad.net] PPA for HandBrake Ubuntu Packagers : âHandBrake Ubuntu Packagersâ team
[02:20] <tgm4883> https://launchpad.net/~stebbins/+archive/handbrake-snapshots
[02:20] <Zinn> [launchpad.net] HandBrake Snapshots : John Stebbins
[02:20] <tgm4883> I use the second one
[02:21] <nerdful_things> I just saw this: http://www.jonathanmoeller.com/screed/?p=2100... but I will now read your advice, thanks!
[02:21] <Zinn> [www.jonathanmoeller.com] Install Handbrake On Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat » Help Desk Screeds
[02:22] <nerdful_things> guess the bot knows about it...
[02:23] <nerdful_things> I love handbrake on my PCLinuxOS laptop to process stuff for the Nook color.
[02:25]  * Patrickdk installs an iscsi root frontend
[02:25] <mycoDA> tgm4883 - not for me but is the an 'official' ppa other than mainline through which one could get an updated kernel for lucid?
[02:25] <mycoDA> ie get the natty kernel?
[02:26] <tgm4883> mycoDA, IIRC there is a kernel backport PPA
[02:26] <nerdful_things> I forgot I had jumped all those hoops to put handbrake on the install I just wrote over...
[02:26] <mycoDA> somebody on overclockers.com.au wanted to know
[02:27] <mycoDA> had epic argument with newb over me saying i liked my HID remote kb/mouse emulator yesterday
[02:28] <mycoDA> turns out he hated HID cos he was trying to run XBMD and mythfrontend at the same time
[02:28] <mycoDA> XBMC would grab the keypresses
[02:28] <nerdful_things> why someone argue that you like something of yours?
[02:28] <nerdful_things> oh
[02:28] <mycoDA> some other newb asked what remotes people were using and i linked to it
[02:29] <nerdful_things> hey mycoDA
[02:29] <mycoDA> saying in the post that it is what _I_ use and most people would recommend mce USB
[02:29] <mycoDA> yars?
[02:29] <nerdful_things> wern't you helping me other day.
[02:29] <mycoDA> rings a bell lol
[02:29] <nerdful_things> I found sound fix.
[02:29] <mycoDA> ahhhhhhh
[02:30] <mycoDA> sorry - giving up smokes - head is a fog
[02:30] <mycoDA> remember it was alsa issues on an nvidia mobo, forget which specific issues
[02:30] <nerdful_things> re-install, (which I wanted to do anyway to make a clone copy), and found out some weird hoops to jump to get alsa running on optical.
[02:31] <nerdful_things> Let me look at my notes, just FYI...
[02:31] <mycoDA> nforce specific hoops?
[02:32] <nerdful_things> Ok, install myth 10.10 a64 from live cd, install my HDHomerun etc. etc. Now th sound...
[02:33] <nerdful_things> audio out device: alsa:default
[02:34] <nerdful_things> 5.1, best upconv,
[02:34] <nerdful_things> dig out dev:default, dolby, dfs checked.
[02:34] <nerdful_things> oops dts.
[02:35] <nerdful_things> go to desktop launch, to multimedia, mixer
[02:36] <nerdful_things> select playback controls master, pcm.
[02:37] <mycoDA> you didnt unmute it did you
[02:37] <nerdful_things> also iec958 playback ac97-spsa,eec...pb source.
[02:37] <mycoDA> i told you to unmute it
[02:37] <nerdful_things> wait, it gets better...
[02:37] <mycoDA> cept i said use alsamixer
[02:39] <nerdful_things> playback pots: master, mid, pcm mid, ac97-apsa pot DOWN TO ZERO....options:iec958 pb source pcm.
[02:40] <nerdful_things> # after sound ok, I removed all but master pots, and sound stayed ok...
[02:40] <nerdful_things> I found the pot to zero glitch, after much forum reading and hair loss.
[02:41] <nerdful_things> Now I want to back up my entire virgin partition, which is now at only 3.6GB.
[02:41] <mycoDA> lulwut????
[02:42] <nerdful_things> yeah, you have to put the iec pot down to zero, then the receiver bursts into life.
[02:44] <nerdful_things> I was going to throw handbrake in now, but forgot all about the ppa process I totally have forgotten.
[02:45] <nerdful_things> Soon my virgin install is going to be polluted with wedding tomorrow...
[02:45] <nerdful_things> I couldn't find space to clone it...
[02:48] <mycoDA> time to reboot an add some more ram methinks
[03:26] <nerdful_things> So, any tips on archiving my mythtv "recordings" with Handbrake? Mine are mostly 1080 from HDHomerun.
[14:46] <ShallSee> I just installed Mythbuntu 10.06 (or something) updated to 11.*** and now, I run the setup, but it fails where it should be coming into the graphical setup portion... Anyone help me out?????
[14:46] <ShallSee> and Hi ppl
[14:48] <ShallSee> Is there maybe a way to force the graphical portion... (It's the part where you specify your card and stuff)
[14:48] <tmkt> delete /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:48] <mycosys> what video card?
[14:49] <mycosys> and - i would have stuck with 10.04 - it is a long term support release
[14:49] <mycosys> shallsee - what video card are you using
[14:50] <rhpot1991> eh, most of us devs run latest and greatest so lts is over rated
[14:50] <ShallSee> I'm thinking I have a ATI Radeon 9600 Pro
[14:50] <ShallSee> with a Hauppage tuner
[14:50] <ShallSee> Is it actually to do with X???
[14:51] <ShallSee> like, that seems strange... It's the setup, not running on after it does that database stuff
[14:52] <ShallSee> it runs mythfilldatabase, then just sits there doing nothing
[14:52] <mycosys> your video card WILL cause you issues
[14:52] <mycosys> if you can get it to work at all with myth
[14:52] <ShallSee> what does it do if it doesn't work???
[14:52] <mycosys> i dont think the proprietary Driver will work with an antique like that
[14:53] <mycosys> and even the proprietary driver has issues
[14:53] <ShallSee> I've had this box running linux mint prior
[14:53] <mycosys> so?
[14:53] <ShallSee> tmkt, You reacon that'll do the trick?
[14:53] <mycosys> what is its cpu?
[14:53] <mycosys> it wont shellsee
[14:54] <mycosys> your gpu is not going to play nice with myth - save yourself much pain
[14:54] <mycosys> what is your cpu?
[14:54] <mycosys> what is your tuner?
[14:57] <ShallSee> I got a P4, 3.0, Hauppage tuner, with a ATI Radeon 256 Mb Vid card
[14:57] <mycosys> what tuner?
[14:57] <rhpot1991> HD or SD tuner?
[14:57] <mycosys> the p4 MIGHT be enough
[14:57] <ShallSee> HD
[14:57] <rhpot1991> ya thats borderline good enough for HD
[14:57] <mycosys> should be ok then with digital
[14:57] <ShallSee> and even, just want the box as a box
[14:57] <ShallSee> I'm not worried about HD
[14:57] <mycosys> lulwut????
[14:58] <mycosys> the hd question is more about analog or digital
[14:58] <rhpot1991> ShallSee: so you get to the installer and it hangs at the graphics portion?
[14:58] <ShallSee> I'm just wanting to see it work
[14:58] <ShallSee> Yea
[14:58] <ShallSee> it just sits there
[14:58] <mycosys> if you had a cheap framegrabber analog it would not be a good enough cpu
[14:59] <mycosys> do you have an onboard intel gpu?
[14:59] <mycosys> if so, ditch the radeon
[14:59] <ShallSee> (I can feel the need for me to reinstall the setup again, just to try it again)
[14:59] <ShallSee> Radeon is fine... It's a Pro...
[14:59] <mycosys> it should cope with you just pulling the ati, this isnt windows
[14:59] <mycosys> it sint fine
[15:00] <mycosys> radeon drivers for linux are junk, and it is nearly a decade old
[15:00] <ShallSee> Hence why it's pro... Legacy is good shit
[15:00] <Zinn> ShallSee: Please watch your language.
[15:00] <ShallSee> Nice bot... :D
[15:00] <mycosys> huh????
[15:00] <mycosys> RADEON DRIVERS FOR LINUX ARE JUNK
[15:01] <mycosys> there aRE NONE BEING WORked on for that antique
[15:01] <mycosys> IT WONT WORK IN WINDOWS VISTA OR 7 EITHER
[15:01] <mycosys> WHY WOULD IT WORK IN MYTH???
[15:01] <ShallSee> I'm not trying to setup for Windows 7????
[15:01] <mycosys> ffs
[15:01] <ShallSee> It's a backend...
[15:01] <mycosys> PULL IT OUT
[15:02] <mycosys> use nvidia or intel
[15:02] <mycosys> ati is a showstopper for myth, esp on the open source drivers
[15:02] <ShallSee> The box is planned as a backend...
[15:03] <mycosys> so no issue with having intel gfx then
[15:03] <mycosys> you realise you want decent cpu power on a backend - it doesnt just sit there doing nothing?
[15:04] <mycosys> the database work, scheduling and commercial flagging are not lightweight
[15:04] <ShallSee> You realise that I don't want HD, I don't need all the functions that are included... I merely need it set up
[15:05] <mycosys> you realise that ATI doesnt work
[15:05] <mycosys> and nothing i talked about had anything to do with HD
[15:05] <rhpot1991> ShallSee: does the box have onboard video?
[15:05] <ShallSee> No
[15:05] <mycosys> the only reason you got asked about HD is your machine is too pathetic to handle most SD analog cards
[15:06] <mycosys> do you have an old nvidia card hanging around, even a ruddy tnt?
[15:06]  * ShallSee is aware of the ATI Issues with linux, But I have a card that IS supported...
[15:07] <mycosys> the only reason it can handle recording digital is it doesnt have to do any encoding
[15:07] <mycosys> how can you have a card that is supported? it isnt
[15:07] <ShallSee> I'm only wanting it for the fact that the card, picks up satelite...
[15:07] <ShallSee> I know how to install the card, I'm not a brand new user
[15:07] <mycosys> so?
[15:08] <ShallSee> So???? You been flaming the entire time I'm in here
[15:08] <mycosys> myth doesnt work with the open source ati drivers
[15:08] <mycosys> i have not been flaming - you have been condascending toward somebody trying to help you
[15:08] <ShallSee> I'm sure I seen it asking to install the AMD drivers...
[15:08] <mycosys> who has been using *nix for 20 years
[15:08] <mycosys> and who has tried what you are trying
[15:09] <ShallSee> I'm hesitant to accept your help as the nature of your pursueing of this issue, is confrontational
[15:09] <mycosys> it didnt start that way
[15:09] <ShallSee> It's also Biased, as would anyone who knows about Nvida, ati and inux...
[15:09] <ShallSee> would be,.
[15:10] <mycosys> tell ya what - PLEASE go knock urself out
[15:10] <mycosys> have fun
[15:10] <ShallSee> I will...
[15:10] <mycosys> get it working - i am sure you are able
[15:11] <mycosys> you will probably have better luck using x forwarding to run mythtv setup
[15:11] <mycosys> from a machine with working opengl
[15:11] <mycosys> mythbackend doesnt need x running at all to run
[15:14]  * rhpot1991 tells everyone to calm down
[15:33] <tmkt> ShallSee: I'd say so...can't hurt
[15:33] <tmkt> mv xorg.conf to xorg.conf.bak
[15:33] <tmkt> and reboot
[15:36] <superm1> ShallSee, check if you have fglrx installed from the upgrade
[15:37] <superm1> you shouldn't, but if you do it doesn't work w/ the 9600
[15:37] <superm1> so removing it should hopefully take care of your problem
[15:38] <ShallSee> Currently, I'm reinstalling, and keeping to the 10 rather than updating
[15:39] <mycosys> sorry i got so animated - quitting smoking, and was trying to save you a painful experience that i went through too
[15:40] <mycosys> have quite a few o those cards, fortunately also have others lol
[15:40] <mycosys> oddly, the intel 915 outperforms the 9600pro
[15:41] <mycosys> just PLEASE dont waste too much time on that ruddy card - your time is worth more than that
[21:42] <jdeslip> Hi all.  I have a question about the Android remote support.  Is there an official MythBuntu app somewhere?
[21:43] <jdeslip> i.e. what is new about this?  There is has been a mythtv remote app in the android market for years already.
[21:43] <tgm4883> jdeslip, no, I don't think there is an official mythtv app either
[21:43] <tgm4883> IIRC, there are qr codes to install it in MCC now
[21:44] <jdeslip> tgm4883: Is that it? Just qr code that links to the market?
[21:44] <tgm4883> jdeslip, Perhaps, I didn't code that bit so I'm unsure
[21:44] <tgm4883> superm1, ^
[21:47] <superm1> yeah that's what it is
[21:47] <superm1> just raises visibility of what's there
[22:19] <jdeslip> superm1: Ah ok.  I was hoping it was something more exciting like a new API for remotes in MythTV or something.
[22:20] <jdeslip> I'm interested in an http based by API that lets you also view things like the video collection/recordings etc...
[22:22] <tgm4883> jdeslip, doesn't one of the apps already do that?
[22:22] <tgm4883> mythdroid I think
[22:44] <zuixro> How stable is the 64 bit build of Mythbuntu? I've been using it since I built my new computer, and I've had nothing but problems. I'm wondering if it's my hardware or just the software.
[22:46] <tgm4883> zuixro, I've run it without issues for multiple years
[22:47] <zuixro> tgm4883, I've been running it for about a month, and I've been strugling to get the backend stable. I had it running fine for a bit, but then it just decided to stop working.
[22:51] <tgm4883> zuixro, logs?
[22:52] <zuixro> Here's a complete session that ran for a couple of hours: http://pastebin.com/1htvWTRM
[22:52] <Zinn> [pastebin.com] 2011-04-29 08:52:44.228 mythbackend version: fixes/0.24 [v0.24-250-g56c54fa] www - Pastebin.com
[22:53] <zuixro> I also have a "verbose all" log from a session that lasted a couple of minutes. I'll post it in a minute
[22:55] <zuixro> Erm... Turns out it's 23MB, which I think is too big for pastebin
[22:58] <zuixro> Ok, it broke pastebin, but here's a link to it: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/409453/mythbackend.log
[23:03] <jdeslip> tgm4883: I didn't even know mythdroid existed since it is not on the market yet.