[01:01] <IdleOne> !no gnome3 is <reply> Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.
[01:01] <IdleOne> I'll leave the second part up to you to tell the user
[01:01] <LjL> :P
[01:18] <Pici> eww, nose demon
[02:02] <Logan_> (it links to a forum thread that doesn't exist anymore)
[03:32] <IdleOne> tonyyarusso: sorry if I stirred him up even more.
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> meh
[03:33] <IdleOne> trully was not my intention
[03:33] <IdleOne> truly*
[03:37] <Logan_> IdleOne: see above? :P
[03:37] <IdleOne> see what above?
[03:37] <IdleOne> !sharedprinting
[03:37] <IdleOne> not relevant anymore?
[03:37] <IdleOne> !forget sharedprinting
[03:37] <tonyyarusso> Gutsy's way EOL, so presumably.
[03:38] <IdleOne> yeah
[03:38] <IdleOne> thanks Logan_
[03:38] <Logan_> IdleOne: no prob
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> If we were to conduct a scientific poll, I wonder how many users think IRC ops are somehow employed by or responsible to Canonical.
[06:55] <topyli> the difference between ubuntu and canonical seems a bit unclear at times too
[06:56] <topyli> "how are things at the ubuntu office guys!"
[06:56] <topyli> (we're all male of course)
[06:56] <bazhang> like the guy asking if ubuntu cola was at the office
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> topyli: Fair point.
[06:57] <topyli> bazhang: actually i was thinking about just that
[06:57] <bazhang> topyli, haha!
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> Also, I have a hard time blaming sexist attitudes for things like "hey guys!" when the English language sucks so much with respect to non-awkward gender pointers.
[06:58] <topyli> i also found two support requests in my inbox this morning, sent via launchpad
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> nice
[06:58] <topyli> it's that time again! :)
[06:58] <topyli> tonyyarusso: true
[06:59] <topyli> 'guys' is vague anyway, covers all genders these days
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> Ojibwe doesn't even have equivalents to "he" or "she".  You're talking about a person, and that's all it cares about.
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> As I understand it Finnish is similar.
[06:59] <topyli> yes
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> Anybody know about French?  That's the other "to-do" language.  Maybe Swedish.
[07:00]  * tonyyarusso should really work on those tapes this summer
[07:00] <topyli> swedish has gendered pronouns
[07:01] <tonyyarusso> Swedish:  Because it's also an official language in Finland and easier to learn than Finnish, plus Sweden has laxer immigration laws.  :)
[07:02] <topyli> yeah you're entitled to service in bad swedish by law
[07:02] <topyli> (in finland)
[07:02] <Tm_T> topyli: bad? only bad?
[07:03] <topyli> Tm_T: the law doesn't say it has to be good! :)
[07:03] <Tm_T> topyli: aye, I mean, usually I would except even worse than just bad
[07:05] <topyli> well yes
[07:05] <jussi> lol
[07:05] <Tm_T> in general finnish would prolly speak better english than swedish
[07:06] <topyli> definitely
[07:07] <Tm_T> tonyyarusso: so if you really like to survive in Finland, learn english
[07:07] <bazhang> hehe
[07:07] <bazhang> he speaks a bit now
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> A little.  It's only my first language, but I manage.  ;)
[07:15] <jussi> they said english, not american :P
[07:15] <jussi> Queens English :P
[07:15] <jussi> (whatever that may be)
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> I can drop extra vowels around my neighbours if necessary.
[07:24] <jussi> you have to spell colour correctly :P
[07:25] <jussi> and Mum :P
[07:28]  * tonyyarusso sighs
[07:29] <Tm_T> don't forget the punctuations, quotations and all
[07:30] <Jordan_U> al is very difficult to spell.
[07:30]  * jussi huggle tonyyarusso
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> I wish there was a Debian-based distro that would be out reasonably soon and not go EOL until at least December 2016.
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> Ubuntu 12.04 will work, but might be cutting things a bit close.
[07:32] <jussi> tonyyarusso: when does the just released debian go eol?
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> jussi: One year after the next one releases.  So if Wheezy comes out 2013, Squeeze is EOL in 2014.
[07:34] <jussi> oh
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> yeah, I was surprised too.
[07:35] <jussi> I think Ive still got some ancient version of debian somewhere on a server here...
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> RHEL 6 reaches EOL November 2017.
[07:39] <jussi> thats not debian based...
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> Exactly why it's not my answer :)
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> If only Debian could be supported for as long as RHEL!
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> While, you know, still making releases at a snail's pace instead of a dead snail's pace.
[08:10] <topyli> i thought debian *is* supported as long as rhel
[10:08] <jussi> can we close -r-p now? its rather dead...
[10:19] <Flannel> yes!
[10:54] <Tm_T> err, wasn't the closing time usually after the weekend, so it is open over the most of the release parties?
[12:50] <nhandler> /76/73
[12:52] <Flannel> /48/45
[12:53] <Pici> 22/7
[12:54] <LjL> diamo i numeri?
[12:54] <Flannel> Pici: Tasty
[13:06] <bazhang> ps3 and ppc have a natty release?
[13:06] <ikonia> doubtful
[13:06] <ikonia> certainly not this quick
[13:06] <ikonia> the auto build scripts have probably populated a repo
[13:07] <bazhang> so why is vibhav claiming they do, and that there's a special link for the intel mac release
[13:08] <ikonia> ask him to explain it
[13:08] <ikonia> the community repos have possibly been populated due to auto build scripts
[13:08] <ikonia> the 10.10 PPC port never really worked but had a full repo due to auto build scripts
[13:08] <LjL> poor PPC
[13:08] <bazhang> he's recommending the dvd instead of the cd, no idea why
[13:09] <ikonia> he was a bit of a problem yesterday
[13:09] <LjL> yes
[13:09] <Pici> I know the PPC isos were getting tested though, saw a few mentions of them in -devel.
[13:09] <ikonia> LjL: it was usable, just the additional packages didn't work due to stock sources not working
[13:09] <ikonia> Pici: I'm sure they will get there, and they may well be done now, I doubt it though due to the smaller community support
[13:18] <bazhang> jungli trying to get a cloak
[13:18] <Pici> again
[13:18] <LjL> heh
[13:31] <Pici> bazhang: And that is why I didn't want to even say anything there.
[13:33] <Pici> The number of people that think 11.04 is an LTS is rather surprising.
[13:36] <bazhang> yep
[13:47] <jrib> at least my vocabulary improves with every release...
[13:47] <bazhang>  p579066F3.dip.t-dialin.net tesdsfsfdfds wonder if thats larstorben et neighbors
[13:48] <Pici> bazhang: Seems to be making a bit more sense than usual.
[13:54] <popey> 13:07:08 <+bazhang> so why is vibhav claiming they do, and that there's a special link for the intel mac release
[13:54] <popey> there is
[13:54] <popey> well was, dunno if there still is
[13:55] <popey> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/
[13:55] <popey> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/ubuntu-11.04-alternate-amd64+mac.iso
[13:55] <popey> "Alternate install CD for 64-bit Mac (AMD64) computers (standard download)
[13:55] <popey> "
[13:58] <bazhang> popey, thanks
[14:02] <jrib> there was an issue in 10.10 where installer wouldn't work on 64bit macs
[14:03] <jrib> my guess is it's related
[14:59] <bazhang> jatt just seems to be spreading FUD
[15:49] <BHXSpecter> I passed the bot test but being told that I am still banned from #ubuntu
[16:32] <popey> given the forums have opened their +1 forum, does it not make sense to open #ubuntu+1 now?
[16:33] <popey> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=403
[16:49] <genii-around> And so it begins! ;)
[17:10] <popey> @)
[17:33] <Pici> I'm a bit wary of opening up +1 now.  Anyone have any thoughts about closing #u-r-p?
[17:35] <Pici> Also, did anyone unban lars?
[18:09] <IdleOne> close #u-r-p the party is over
[18:09] <IdleOne> I haven't unbanned him
[18:09] <Pici> Shall I forward to -offtopic?
[18:10] <IdleOne> probably best
[18:10] <IdleOne> or #u I suppose
[18:15] <IdleOne> Do you need to +f -ot also?
[18:15] <Pici> I wish
[19:48] <Pici> wow, we're getting more people in #ubuntu today than we did yesterday.
[19:48] <Pici> I don't know if thats a good thing.
[19:50] <topyli> also, -ot has many new folks who are not entirely accustomed to civilization
[19:51] <Pici> Indeed.
[20:03] <genii-around> Hm, 1807 occupants there. I think thats the most I ever remember seeing
[20:04] <Pici> We had over 2000 for the 10.04 release.
[20:04] <LjL> OVER NINE THOUSAND
[20:04]  * Pici dumps LjL into #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:04] <genii-around> I was mostly hanging out in -release-party, I held a party here for 10.04 :)
[20:05] <genii-around> LjL: Where?
[20:05] <LjL> genii-around: on freenode
[20:06] <genii-around> Ah
[20:07] <Pici> I'm stressed enough right now, can't deal with -offtopic at the same time. sorry.
[20:08] <topyli> get a beer Pici :)
[20:08] <Pici> topyli: I'm at work, but I will be having one when I get home.
[20:09] <topyli> Pici: have a beer, i'm sure they'll tell you to go home!
[20:09] <Pici> :D
[20:13]  * LjL smacks himself
[22:43] <Pricey> ikonia: I never left.