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nimrod10hypetech, try sending a file over ssh to see if there is indeed low latency00:00
hypetechnimrod10: uploading steady at ~220k00:02
nimrod10that sounds like you shouldn't experience any latency while typing over ssh00:04
hypetechnimrod10: I know :p  that's why I was asking for any resolutions that don't involve latency :(00:05
SpaceBassnimrod10, 10.1000:07
SpaceBasshope appears to be lost :/ .... reinstalling the base system and will restore (hopefully ) from backup00:08
nimrod10SpaceBass, I really don't like this unreliability in ubuntu; when a new version is out you normally think it is fine to upgrade and then "sometimes" it brakes.00:09
nimrod10I bet you won't upgrade next time00:09
compdocits probably hard for the installer to account for all the changes a user makes to his system, and some changes may well break it00:11
SpaceBassnimrod10, on the contrary... I never learn my lesson00:11
nimrod10:)00:13
nimrod10what you need is a test environment. You can try updates there. That is not a 100% guarantee, but it is better then trying on the server first00:14
hypetechis the procedure for disabling ipv6 the same in natty as it was in 10.10?00:17
alamar.o(why would one do that..)00:17
SpamapSalamar: there are some very broken DNS servers for AAAA records.. I've had trouble before where I had to disable IPv6 in order to contact certain sites.00:23
SpamapSI remember autotrader.com used to respond to AAAA record requests with a CNAME that didn't exist...00:24
hypetechyea ipv6 dns can slow down the network atm, plus I might as well lower surface area for attacks since there isn't much ipv6 security going on00:25
hypetecheven though we aren't being routed yet00:25
SpamapSahh looks like images.autotrader.com is still confused00:25
SpamapShah.. wow.. the mirrors are completely clogged00:26
SpamapSnormally 6-9 Mbit .. getting 128kbit00:26
hypetechlol00:27
strigoi66So I have a problem: I have a lucid server setup and serving html, I also am serving videos. The problem (can play videos in linux, but not windows.) The error is (missing plugin) I have searched all over, but could not find a plugin to play the videos in windows. Please point me in the right direction. I am a newb to servers and plugins!00:31
alamarSpamapS: this should only be an issue if you indeed have ipv6 connectivity00:31
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SinnerNyxHello. I have a silly question. I have tried to do this on my own and I have done it before, but I don't remember how I accomplished it.01:46
SinnerNyxI've just upgraded to Ubuntu Server 11.04. I had a custom MOTD01:47
SinnerNyxbut that got wiped in the upgrade. So now I want to set the MOTD. Whenever I change /etc/motd or /var/.../motd it gets reset01:47
SinnerNyxI dont want to use a third party app to just change it once. so where am I supposed to do it?01:48
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ChmEarlrelease kernel for natty server: is this it? linux-image-server_2.6.38.8.2202:41
ChmEarlok thats it - confirmed at packages.ubuntu.com02:42
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aljosais there a natty server image available for virtualbox, kvm or something else like it's available for amazon?03:16
jMCgChmEarl: mine says: 2.6.38-8.4203:17
uvirtbot`New bug: #772868 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77286803:31
hggdhDaviey: when you are in, please try pinging me -- I may be awake still ;-)03:36
Maceris there a way that i can make users redirect to a different home directory if say... the home dir is an nfs and it goes down03:43
arrrghhhhow can i 'cherry-pick' packages to be installed?03:43
arrrghhhi tried --no-install-recommends03:46
arrrghhhdidn't work03:46
qman__if you're not installing recommends, you're only installing dependencies03:49
qman__so if you're trying to choose an alternate package for a dependency, just install that package first03:49
arrrghhhwell i don't want the other packages to install03:53
arrrghhhi manually compiled them03:53
arrrghhhand i don't want repo version's overwriting them...03:54
qman__well, you should have compiled them into packages so they'd satisfy the dependency04:06
qman__it's either that, or now you'll have to compile everything that depends on them manually04:06
qman__third option is compiling the software such that it can coexist with the packaged version, and you just link to your version instead of the package04:11
qman__but that only works with certain types of packages04:12
arrrghhhhrm04:15
arrrghhhmplayer/mencoder04:15
arrrghhhi used checkinstall04:15
arrrghhhshould've created .deb's, no?04:15
twbarrrghhh: the short answer is: don't compile your own packages.04:17
arrrghhhi prefer repo's04:17
arrrghhhbut i couldn't figure out how to get mplayer/mencoder to work multithreaded in any repo version04:17
arrrghhhi can finally transcode 1080p on the fly without any stutter04:19
JoeCoderIs there a way to a2ensite without requiring an apache restart?  I'm running a service where each user has a site setup in apache, and they can sign up for a limited free account on the home page.  It would be nice to not have to restart the whole thing for everyone any time someone signs up.04:38
JoeCoderIs there a way to a2ensite without requiring an apache restart? see above04:47
twister004hi guys... I have an ubuntu 8.04 server..... Im trying to identify if my sqldump backups are completing successfully on this server... these are backups of some sql databases.... how can I ensure that the daily backups are working???.. please advise... Note that the backups are run via a sh script that is scheduled to run using a cron entry05:00
ScottKTake the backup and restore it onto a test system.05:01
ScottKThat's the only way to really know.05:01
ScottKAmateurs back up.  Professionals restore too.05:01
twister004ScottK.. agreed.. but can't I view some sqldump logs to find out?....05:03
ScottKYou still won't know.05:03
twister004ScottK.. I can't really go about restoring these daily backups.... daily :D05:04
ScottKNo, but you should do it periodically.05:04
ScottKI don't know a lot about sqldump, but I do know that.05:04
JoeCoderYou could use sql dump to restore it to another machine.  If it powers a website, you could use wget to load the website and make sure it doesn't return a 500, calling a script to email you if it does.05:05
twister004ScottK.. so there's no other way huh....hmm05:05
ScottKI'm sure you could, but I don't know exactly how.05:06
ScottKI'd restore it at least once if you haven't.05:06
Macerok .. i'm lost05:14
Macersorry to ask again but does anybody know if there is a way to have a simple fallback directory if a user tries to login but has an nfs home dir and it is down?05:14
twbIs there a pcap utility like tcpdump, but instead of telling me each packet, it just tells me what proportion of the traffic is on each port?05:21
lifelessiftop05:22
twb$customer asked me to work out what's chewing up their link, and I'm not allowed to just turn things off, which is how I normally do it05:22
* twb tries iftop05:22
twbUrk, I just realized that the router I need to do this on is probably on of their ISP-managed cisco things05:24
blahdeblahHi.  Any experts on initramfs & mdadm present?  I have a server which fails to mount the root filesystem on reboot.  It drops into the busybox shell claiming that there's no root filesystem.  A simple mdadm --auto-detect fixes it and the system continues to boot.  Why is this happening, and how can i get the mdadm process to continue without intervention?05:34
twbEasy thing to try is sudo update-initramfs -u -k all05:47
blahdeblahalready done that05:48
twbThat will rebuild the ramdisks with the current /etc/mdadm.conf05:48
blahdeblahNo joy05:48
twbnot sure then05:48
blahdeblahI even went to the extent of unpacking the built initrd and manually looking through the code05:48
twbCheck that fstab rootfs is sane, etc05:48
twbActually that's passed as an arg from the bootloader, so also check /boot/grub/grub.cfg or whatever it is05:49
blahdeblahAny idea how i can show the filesystem UUID to check the one in /etc/fstab & /boot/grub?05:50
blahdeblahnever mind - i looked in /dev/disk/05:50
twbtune2fs -l05:51
blahdeblahCool - looks OK05:51
blahdeblahfstab has UUID=..., but /boot/grub/menu.lst just has root=/dev/md0.  I assume both should work...05:52
twbAssuming it's md0 yes06:04
twbmd0 is MORE likely to work... usually06:04
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uvirtbot`New bug: #772990 in openssh (main) "Ubuntu Server 10.04.2 - sshd not accept connection over ethernet only on loopback" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77299008:27
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riz0nhey guys, I am trying to set up freeradius atop ubuntu. is there a way to integrate the username/password to use the already existing username and passwords?11:07
andygraybealriz0n, i have no idea, but i want to do the same thing, and instead of trying to put all the peices together manually, i've decided to use 'zentyal' .... a meta package.. integrates ldap radius already for username/passwords -- i know it's not the answer to your question.12:42
andygraybealbut it is similar and it is what i am going to eventually do.  if i was smart enough.. i could setup ldap and radius w/o zentyal12:43
andygraybealit just seems that it's a big step for me right now12:43
andygraybealit's a little sad.. i've been doing this for too many years...12:43
andygraybeali'll get it one day.12:44
uvirtbot`New bug: #773161 in openldap (main) "package slapd (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subproces installed post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 1 terug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77316112:52
Macerseems like the release day traffic died down13:08
pmatulisok13:10
hggdhDaviey: there already?13:11
RoAkSoAxmorning all14:23
jamespagehey RoAkSoAx14:23
RoAkSoAxjamespage: heya!14:24
RoAkSoAxjamespage: how's it going today14:26
jamespageRoAkSoAx: good thanks - at puppetcamp in amsterdam14:27
jamespage?RoAkSoAx: hows things for you?14:27
RoAkSoAxjamespage: cool.!! Pretty good.. just starting the day and convincing upstreams to drop by UDS :)14:28
jamespageRoAkSoAx: sounds like fun :-)14:29
jamespageRoAkSoAx: looking forward to visiting budapest?14:29
RoAkSoAxjamespage: yeah!! can't wait!14:30
jamespagecool14:30
RoAkSoAxhow about yourself?14:30
jamespagejamespage: should be good - just need to focus on getting my blueprints filed....14:31
RoAkSoAxcool14:33
smbSpeaking of blueprints... Is there already one that would be placeholder for a general session on bringing up anything that needs support, clarification, improvement in general between server and kernel?14:35
nerdy_kidhello, I am getting [error] [client 71.174.117.203] File does not exist: /etc/apache2/htdocs in my apache logs and a 404 error when I try to access my site.14:39
nerdy_kidif I set the virtual server to accept all connections instead of from only example.com then it works14:40
RoAkSoAxsmb: I don't think there's a blueprint filed, though the idea was suggested and approved14:40
smbRoAkSoAx, Ok, so I guess I have the honors of creating one...14:41
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Vhozardnetwork adapter15:34
Vhozardhow can I check whats wrong?15:35
_rubeneh?15:35
Vhozard(using virtualbox on windows 7)15:35
Vhozardhave it set as bridged, yet it cant resolve google.com15:35
_rubenhow about starting with describing the actual problem ;)15:35
_rubenwifi or wired ?15:35
Vhozardno internet acces15:35
Vhozardeth0 wired15:35
Vhozardit worked yesterday15:36
Vhozardstarted the machine today, no internet15:36
_rubencan you ping the host?15:36
VhozardI cant15:36
Vhozardi just did "ping [ip]"15:37
Vhozardthats right ?15:37
_rubenassuming you used the actual ip instead of [ip], yes :)15:37
Vhozard:)15:38
Vhozard"connect: Network is unreachable"15:38
_rubentho seems to be a very low level issue, dont have any experience with vbox though, only vmware products15:38
_rubeni assume you use dhcp? does it get an ip address from the dhcp server? can check with "ip a"15:38
Vhozardhmm15:39
Vhozardit shows lo and eth215:39
Vhozardbut no ipv415:40
Vhozardonly an ipv6: 08:00:27:8d:42:0815:41
Vhozardand ff:ff:ff:ff:ff15:41
kpettitanybody know of a wiki type app where you can just type the URL of a new page you want, but that uses HTML instead of wiki formatting?15:41
Vhozardhowto restart networking?15:44
Vhozardsudo /etc/network restart or something?15:44
kpettitVhozard, you can do that or you can do "ifdown eth0" then "ifup eth0" type of thing15:44
smbVhozard, Would be sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart15:45
Vhozardit wont go down15:45
Vhozard..15:45
Vhozardit says its not there15:45
Vhozardand eth0~4 dont exist15:46
Vhozard:(15:46
kpettitVhozard, try the "ifdown eth0" then "ifup eth0"15:46
smbVhozard, To me it sounds a bit like for some reason dhcp (if that is used) did not succeed15:46
Vhozardeth0: error while getting interface flags15:46
VhozardNo such device15:46
Vhozardwth15:46
kpettitThe etc/init.d/networking script always seems to have issues for me when I'm tweaking things.  So doing it manually with the ifup/ifdown work better for me15:46
kpettityou can do "ifconfig" to see your network devices.15:47
Vhozardthanks15:47
Vhozardonly loopback is there15:47
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kpettitthen your network isn't setup yet.  Maybe it didn't see your network device.15:47
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Vhozardits running in virtualbox15:48
kpettitOh.  With virtualbox you can change your network card type.  Sometimes that makes a difference.15:48
Vhozardhow can I view the system start log?15:48
kpettitI would just change the virtualbox network device for your ubuntu system and reboot it.15:49
Vhozardit worked previously15:49
Vhozardand I kinda need 1gbps15:49
Vhozardbut ill try15:49
Vhozardugh15:52
Vhozarddoesnt work15:52
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Vhozardstill only displays lo15:52
Vhozardanyway to reinstall eth0 ?15:52
Vhozardor atleast see startup messages ?15:53
smbVhozard, MAybe looking into /etc/udev/rules.d helps. There is a file *persistent-net* which maps mac addresses to ethx15:54
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smbUsually /etc/network/interfaces has only one auto entry for eth0, so if for some reason the nic is getting set to eth1+ it won't get any ip15:55
Vhozardauto eth015:57
Vhozardthats good15:58
Vhozardalso15:58
VhozardHow can I change the res to 1080p ?15:58
VhozardI used to use vga=...15:58
Vhozardbut whats the proper way to do it?15:58
_ruben1080p for a server :S15:58
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_rubenbtw, those werent ipv6, they were mac addresses15:59
Vhozardi know indeed :(15:59
Vhozardbut how can I get a higher resolution?16:01
RoAkSoAxTREllis: ping16:01
_rubendunno, i don't really care about a console's resolution16:01
Vhozard640x480 is crap16:02
Vhozard:/16:02
_ruben640x480 doesn't sounds very testmode'ish to me...16:02
_rubens/test/text/16:02
Vhozardvga=799 gives me 1600x90016:03
Vhozardmuch better16:03
Vhozard1600x1200 actually...16:05
Vhozardhmmm, this is weird16:05
Vhozardit recognizes the network adapter16:05
Vhozardit says its loading the intel1000t drivers (right ones)16:06
Vhozardthen it says: udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth316:06
Vhozardbut whe I do sudo ifup eth3 it says its "unknown interface"16:06
smbVhozard, That is the effect of the udev file I mentioned16:06
Vhozard. /etc/udev/rules.d is a folder16:07
smbif you delete all entries in the persistent-net (70-something I don't remember exactly)16:07
smbwhich say mac and eth something, then the next boot starts fresh from eth016:08
Vhozardk done16:08
Vhozardwill reboot now16:08
Vhozardyay16:09
Vhozardwget google.com16:09
Vhozardit works :)16:09
Vhozardthanks smb!16:09
Vhozardcan you maybe explain why it did that?16:09
smbWell, the persistent file tries to keep your network cards always the same interface16:10
Vhozardah16:10
smbUnfortunately if you change cards or use the same image on different hosts you get new interfaces16:10
smbbut the networking configuration does not keep up with that16:10
smbSo either you can add lines for each eth in /etc/network/interfaces16:11
smbor you housekeep the persistent names file16:11
Vhozardany reason why the boot wont show anything btw?16:13
smbVhozard, It sort of is not really seen as a problem. Your configuration says give eth0 this ip, ok, there is no eth0 but an eth1 or 2 but nobody said what to do with those16:16
smbso they get ignored16:16
Vhozardah16:17
Vhozardwhats the highest res I can get with vbeinfo btw?16:17
VhozardGRUB_GFXMODE=16:17
Vhozardactually ^16:17
smbCannot say much about those kind of things as I usually don't care for server installs16:18
genii-aroundVhozard: Not sure, but I've set mine up to 1680x94516:18
Vhozardthat doesnt work :(16:19
genii-aroundIt should be some values that your videocard and monitor both support of course16:20
Vhozardthey support it16:20
Vhozard1080p screen here16:21
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genii-aroundVhozard: After you made it like 1920x1080, did you update-grub ?16:22
Vhozardofc16:22
genii-aroundMaybe you need some framebuffer for your card16:22
Vhozardi just ran vbeinfo in grub16:23
Vhozardit spit out 1600x120016:23
Vhozardwith the next option being 1280x102416:23
Vhozard:(16:23
Vhozardthat big enough for me though :)16:23
lynxmanhey kirkland16:26
lynxmanhandling bug #653405 that affects rabbitmq-server16:26
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 653405 in rabbitmq-server "rabbitmq-server fails to start if hostname is unresolvable or has changed since first starting" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65340516:26
kirklandlynxman: howdy!16:26
lynxmanI'll post a patch for it in a few mins (just postinst script to check that name is resolvable or in /etc/hosts)16:27
kirklandlynxman: updated ;-)16:27
lynxmankirkland: aah excellent :) thanks a bunch16:27
kirklandlynxman: in the changelog entry, make sure you target it to natty-proposed (rather than natty)16:27
lynxmancool, will have that in mind16:27
lynxmanthanks again ^^16:28
kirklandlynxman: and grab a coffee and give this a thorough read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates16:28
lynxmankirkland: cool! will do :)16:28
lynxmankirkland: btw added a big list of postinst and postrm scripts to mcollective and all plugin packages on orchestra to be a lot more in line with policy and clean16:31
lynxmankirkland: we're at a close point of being able to install ubuntu-orchestra-server and ubuntu-orchestra-client and be fully functional \o/16:32
VhozardIs ubuntu Landscape possible for me?16:35
Vhozard(dont wanna pay)16:35
kirklandlynxman: saaaaweeeet :-)16:35
kirklandRoAkSoAx: what do you call powernap's style of configuration file?16:35
RoAkSoAxkirkland: what do you mena?16:36
RoAkSoAxmean*16:36
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i'm just wondering if there's a name for that [bracket] style of configuration file16:37
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ah! yes, [powernap] is for the options of powernap daemon itself16:38
RoAkSoAxkirkland: while [XyzMonitor] is for each monitor16:38
kirklandRoAkSoAx: yes, i understand that16:38
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i mean, what do you call that kind of syntax16:38
patdk-wkwindows ini file?16:38
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ohh Python Config Parser16:38
kirklandRoAkSoAx: cool, thanks.16:39
RoAkSoAxkirkland: welcome!16:39
pmatulisVhozard: dont wanna pay?16:44
_rubenlandscape is only commercially available afaik, so no free rides16:45
pmatulisVhozard: you can get a trial account, it expires after a month i think16:46
Doonzhey guys im using rsync to copy data from one raid array to the other. When i run rsync a 2nd time it retransfers all the files. how do i make rsync stop doing that16:47
Doonzim just using the -vr options16:47
Vhozard<pmatulis> Vhozard: dont wanna pay?16:50
Vhozardnope16:50
pmatulisVhozard: then get something else16:51
VhozardI asked16:51
Vhozardis there something similair ?16:51
pmatulisVhozard: you asked "Is ubuntu Landscape possible for me?"16:52
Vhozardoh, I asked in another channel then if there is something similair :P16:52
Vhozardis there?16:52
pmatulisVhozard: nope16:52
_rubenDoonz: apparently for some reason rsync all files have changed in the meantime16:59
Doonzhmm16:59
Doonzits like 400GB of data files that havent been touched in 6 months16:59
genii-aroundDoonz: Perhaps use also the -a switch16:59
genii-aroundOr -u for "update-only"17:00
Doonzwell ill t-u was the key17:00
Doonzlol17:00
Doonz-u was the key17:01
_rubenah, missed the -vr comment, i tend to use -av17:01
Doonzwell thank gawd cause i didnt wanna re-do the whole transfer again17:02
Doonzthanx for the help17:06
ScottKrobbiew: I went ahead and made a spec for the one item I added to the server team list: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-split-cloud17:12
ScottKPlease approve ...17:12
robbiewScottK: okay, thnx for the heads up17:13
RoAkSoAxkirkland: by any chance do you have a sample preseed that points to a local mirror?17:15
Macerdoes anybody know a good place for information on setting up coda in ubuntu server?17:15
robbiewScottK: done17:15
Macerwell.. ubuntu.. i would like to try  coda out instead of using nfs17:16
Macerfor the caching17:16
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kirklandRoAkSoAx: i can get you one easily17:27
RoAkSoAxkirkland: will it work with NQA?17:28
kirklandRoAkSoAx: it's just an extra line or two you need to add to NQA17:29
kirklandRoAkSoAx: see: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/example-preseed.txt17:30
kirklandRoAkSoAx: go to the ### Mirror settings section17:30
kirklandRoAkSoAx: this is what you need to add to the NQA17:30
RoAkSoAxkirkland: cool thanks!17:31
martynSo .. um .. I crashed the gobby server just now17:31
hallynzul: SpamapS : at this point, bug 394350 looks like your bag, baby.17:36
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 394350 in apache2 "RLimitCPU has no effect in Apache" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/39435017:36
zulhaylln: okie dokie17:38
Maceri cant find any documentation for ubuntu using coda17:39
lynxmankirkland: is it okay if I remove the collectd dependency for now? package fails to install due to collectd having no default conffile, would like to comment it out for now then work on it and add it again17:40
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skritehey all17:55
RoyKhi17:56
Macerwow17:57
Macerwhat is wrong with nfs4 and permissions??17:57
skritehey all, i have one mysql table with about 5 million rows and queries take longer to draw off this table that some with 50 million rows. they are all myIsam.17:57
Maceri have some number where my user andf grp should be17:57
Macerdoes nfs4 not work?17:58
jbroomeok, i looked on the forums and irc log archives.  are launchpad.net repos failing a known issue?18:01
hallynzul: thanks :)18:03
RoyKMacer: nfs4 relies on kerberos for authentication18:03
kirklandlynxman: sure18:03
kirklandlynxman: please do18:03
lynxmankirkland: cool, ty18:03
RoyKMacer: without kerberos, user/group will be mapped to anonymous, at least on some platforms18:03
kirklandlynxman: welcome18:04
Macerah ok thanks18:07
Maceri will set up kerberos when i get home18:08
RoyKor just use nfs318:08
Macerit will be something fun to do18:08
RoyKyeah :)18:08
Macerdoes  kerberos authenticate uid/gid from a central server?18:08
Maceras in for logins?18:08
Macerthat would be nice as i really dont feel like clawing at my own face setting ldap up18:09
RoyKyes18:09
Macerso it can make  a universal passwd?18:09
RoyKthere's where ldap comes in18:10
Macerand authenticates agaheh18:10
Maceroh18:10
RoyKkerberos is just an authentication mechanism used by other services, like ldap :P18:10
Macerdamn18:10
RoyKbut I think you may be able to use nis+kerberos18:10
RoyKnever tried that, though18:10
RoyKanyway - nis is old and quite rotten, I'd recommend ldap18:11
Macerso in order to have one server auth and manage passwd i need ldap?18:11
RoyKor nis18:11
RoyKit's probably easier with nis18:11
Macernis is still around?18:11
Macer:)18:11
RoyKyeah :)18:11
Macerwow18:11
Maceri will try ldap18:11
RoyKlol18:11
Macerhopefully it isnt too difficult18:11
RoyKgoogle for it :)18:12
Maceri  will18:12
Macernot home now and dont feel like doing it over my phone18:12
Macersounds like something with a learning curve18:13
Macerand i think i just now figured out the acls18:13
RoyKeverything has a learning curve, but the ldap curve might be a little steeper than that of using windows 7 :P18:14
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Macerhaha18:35
Macerwell... hopefully it isnt too bad18:35
ruben23 hi guys i have setup kvm on my ubuntu server with guest VM, not working well but my bridge network guest VM is not connecting outside-no internt at all both gess and host can ping each other.18:35
Maceri would love to just  add users on one server18:35
Macersmall stuff and been just creating the accts manually18:35
* SpamapS realizes that oneiric is open.. time to upload mysql 5.5 :-d18:39
lynxmanSpamapS: oh, repo is open already? neat18:41
lynxmanSpamapS: btw just uploaded a patch to LP: #653405 doesn't fully resolve the issue but it does a small pre-check on hostname being resolvable18:42
SpamapSbut 65340518:43
SpamapSbug 65340518:44
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 653405 in rabbitmq-server "rabbitmq-server fails to start if hostname is unresolvable or has changed since first starting" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/65340518:44
SpamapSlynxman: sweet18:44
lynxmanSpamapS: it's just a way to go around the issue for now :)18:44
SpamapSlynxman: there are some fixes in the next version that make that bug less bad.18:44
lynxmanSpamapS: sweet!18:44
SpamapSlynxman: I believe the "or has changed..." part will go away18:45
SpamapSlynxman: and they may have provided a way to override the hostname now18:45
SpamapSoi.. realizing the oneiric is open now just made me realize how many things I've been holding off on the last 2 months...18:45
lynxmanSpamapS: I needed to get around that bug for mcollective dependencies, cloud hosts install by default with no resolvable hostname, otherwise mcollective-middleware fails postinst checks18:45
* SpamapS downshifts and hits the gas18:45
lynxmanSpamapS: and we depend on that for orchestra too, it causes a domino effect18:46
lynxmanSpamapS: same goes for cobbler installed servers18:46
SpamapSlynxman: IIRC, there's also an issue in our "old 'n busted" version of erlang that is a component of the problems.18:47
lynxmanSpamapS: yeah that's what zul told me18:47
zullynxman, ping19:18
lynxmanhey zul o/19:21
pmatulisanyone using pam_mount with cifs shares?  silly things don't unmount on logout19:23
pmatulisgood lord, i had to use 'umount -fl'19:28
zulgah19:28
zullynxman: for the rabbitmq-server bug what is that attachment is it a debdiff or something else?19:28
lynxmanzul: it's a patch19:29
lynxmanzul: so a regular diff19:29
lynxmanzul: I have it also as a deb package though, how can I make a debdiff out of it?19:29
zulok thanks19:29
zuldebdiff *ubuntu1.dsc *ubuntu2.dsc19:29
lynxmanzul: if you prefer a debdiff I can get it sorted19:30
zullynxman: also that bug should be fixed in oneiric once we merge in the new erlang19:30
zullynxman, please :)19:30
lynxmanzul: cool, gimme just 2 ticks19:30
lynxmanzul: done19:33
zullynxman, thanks ill get to it today19:34
lynxmanzul: thank you!19:34
mkriegerhey folks—we're seeing periodic freeze-ups of about 3 seconds on our ec2 (m2.4xlarge) instances, running 10.04 with the 2.6.32-314-ec2 kernel. we've tried moving it to an entirely different box (with new EBS drives) with no luck—same problems result. has anyone seen something similar?19:37
mkrieger(during that time, no IO to the network happens, which means all the Postgres queries time out; sar shows that no IO to any of the EBS drives occurs during those seconds)19:38
pmatulismkrieger: dunno, try #ubuntu-cloud19:39
mkriegerpmatulis: thx, will head over there19:39
ttxkirkland: read your blog post. You might want to connect with soren and ask him how the same discussion went at Maverick UDS when he discussed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-conffiles-and-puppet19:52
RoAkSoAxkirkland: do you guys already have any setup to use squid-deb-proxy already?19:53
kirklandttx: thanks for the reminder19:57
kirklandsoren: ?19:57
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RoAkSoAxkirkland: So I've been looking a bit more into this, and it seems that everytime we netboot the installer wget's files. So if we wanted to use a local mirror (and configure the preseed) we would need have packages already in the local mirror.20:14
RoAkSoAxkirkland: haven't yet tried having squid-deb-proxy20:14
kirklandRoAkSoAx: that's what the transparent proxy is supposed to do20:14
RoAkSoAxkirkland: yeah that's what I was comming, cause been trying with approx (cause I've been using it) with no look20:15
RoAkSoAxlucj*20:16
robohi: there is an ubuntu server farm i just inherited and they're rolling out ubuntu 9.10 on fresh installs. Any ideas why they're doing this and not 11.04 or 10.04 LTS?20:20
PiciThats rather silly.20:21
kirklandRoAkSoAx: i think we need to create a squid-deb-proxy-udeb20:22
kirklandRoAkSoAx: and we need to install that very, very early on the client being provisioned20:23
kirklandsorry, RoAkSoAx: squid-deb-proxy-client-udeb20:23
RoAkSoAxkirkland: right, but still we need a source from where to download the initial files which should be a local mirror20:23
Picirobo: 9.10's EOL date is today.20:25
ScottKrobo: Does the server farm's use involve PHP?20:27
ScottKIf so, php5 5.3 in newer releases may be why.20:30
RoAkSoAxkirkland: The only place where I see this as a bit more complicated is with mini.iso's. Because, in complete server ISO imports, we can just install from the ISO at first, and once installed, it will just have squid-deb-proxy-client and that's it.20:30
RoAkSoAxkirkland: however, the mini.iso will have to obtain the necessary bits from the Internet or a pre-loaded mirror20:31
RoAkSoAxkirkland: unless in the preseed it's possible to tell that there's an APT proxy, and point to it20:33
roboScottK, it involves coldfusion not php :-/20:36
roboso why the heck are we rolling out 9.1020:36
roboGuess i better find out :-)20:36
talntidIs the latest PHP in the repos 5.2? I can't seem to find 5.3.6 or similar...20:38
pmatulismkrieger: did you get it figured out?20:41
roboIf you're running a server farm of ~30 servers and you need it to be stable, is LTS your best bet?20:42
roboNot sure if I should go with 10.04 LTS or 11.0420:42
pmatulisrobo: all releases are "stable"20:42
pmatulisrobo: it's just that LTS is supported for a longer period and the changes that do go into it (updates) are less intrusive20:43
pmatulis!LTS20:43
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)20:43
roboso updates are less intrusive?20:44
pmatulisrobo: they are put in with more care20:44
pmatulisrobo: (less chance of regression)20:45
roboso if stability matters one should go with a LTS version?20:45
pmatulisrobo: if you use stability in that way then yes20:45
roboThen how to SRU's fit in?20:45
robos/to/do/20:45
pmatulisrobo: SRU = updates20:45
pmatulis!SRU20:46
ubottuStable Release Update information is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates20:46
roboSRU's should already be very stable, no? So if you're running LTS or non-LTS as long as you're updating using SRU packages then you should be stable regardless, right?20:46
roboOr maybe better said, you'l l have the same level of stability20:46
pmatulisrobo: like i said, SRU to an LTS is done with more care20:46
roboOh... even more care20:47
robogotcha20:47
pmatulisyes20:47
robogotcha, ty20:47
roboso i then need to figure out what versions of software the LTS has to offer and work from there20:47
robois there an easy way to do this?20:47
pmatulisrobo: well if you were about to go with 9.10 i'm sure 10.04 will do no?20:48
ScottKtalntid: Latest in 11.04 is 5.3.5.20:48
roboyeah, but i'm not sure what all they did to these servers. They might have stuff compiled in for all i know20:48
talntidok20:50
Macerhm20:59
_SHuN_after upgraded my kernel the MOTD is dupplicated21:11
alaingwould read/write restrict a file from being downloaded?22:04
david5345I installed qemu/libvirt/virsh on my vm server, I want to call 'virt-install' to install a non ubuntu vm. Trouble is it want's a network name. I have two bridges br0 and br1 that I use, I think I have to define them in /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks, but I am unsure how to write this file for a bridged ethernet connection. Please advise.23:12
david5345Ha23:13
david5345I should have called --bridge instead of --network23:13
RoAkSoAxkirkland: ping23:42
RoAkSoAxkirkland: i think it's done :D xD23:42
RoAkSoAxkirkland: it seems it was just a missing http://23:43
RoAkSoAxkirkland: using the proxy seems way slower than having a mirror though!!23:54

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