[00:00] <nimrod10> hypetech, try sending a file over ssh to see if there is indeed low latency
[00:02] <hypetech> nimrod10: uploading steady at ~220k
[00:04] <nimrod10> that sounds like you shouldn't experience any latency while typing over ssh
[00:05] <hypetech> nimrod10: I know :p  that's why I was asking for any resolutions that don't involve latency :(
[00:07] <SpaceBass> nimrod10, 10.10
[00:08] <SpaceBass> hope appears to be lost :/ .... reinstalling the base system and will restore (hopefully ) from backup
[00:09] <nimrod10> SpaceBass, I really don't like this unreliability in ubuntu; when a new version is out you normally think it is fine to upgrade and then "sometimes" it brakes.
[00:09] <nimrod10> I bet you won't upgrade next time
[00:11] <compdoc> its probably hard for the installer to account for all the changes a user makes to his system, and some changes may well break it
[00:11] <SpaceBass> nimrod10, on the contrary... I never learn my lesson
[00:13] <nimrod10> :)
[00:14] <nimrod10> what you need is a test environment. You can try updates there. That is not a 100% guarantee, but it is better then trying on the server first
[00:17] <hypetech> is the procedure for disabling ipv6 the same in natty as it was in 10.10?
[00:17] <alamar> .o(why would one do that..)
[00:23] <SpamapS> alamar: there are some very broken DNS servers for AAAA records.. I've had trouble before where I had to disable IPv6 in order to contact certain sites.
[00:24] <SpamapS> I remember autotrader.com used to respond to AAAA record requests with a CNAME that didn't exist...
[00:25] <hypetech> yea ipv6 dns can slow down the network atm, plus I might as well lower surface area for attacks since there isn't much ipv6 security going on
[00:25] <hypetech> even though we aren't being routed yet
[00:25] <SpamapS> ahh looks like images.autotrader.com is still confused
[00:26] <SpamapS> hah.. wow.. the mirrors are completely clogged
[00:26] <SpamapS> normally 6-9 Mbit .. getting 128kbit
[00:27] <hypetech> lol
[00:31] <strigoi66> So I have a problem: I have a lucid server setup and serving html, I also am serving videos. The problem (can play videos in linux, but not windows.) The error is (missing plugin) I have searched all over, but could not find a plugin to play the videos in windows. Please point me in the right direction. I am a newb to servers and plugins!
[00:31] <alamar> SpamapS: this should only be an issue if you indeed have ipv6 connectivity
[01:46] <SinnerNyx> Hello. I have a silly question. I have tried to do this on my own and I have done it before, but I don't remember how I accomplished it.
[01:47] <SinnerNyx> I've just upgraded to Ubuntu Server 11.04. I had a custom MOTD
[01:47] <SinnerNyx> but that got wiped in the upgrade. So now I want to set the MOTD. Whenever I change /etc/motd or /var/.../motd it gets reset
[01:48] <SinnerNyx> I dont want to use a third party app to just change it once. so where am I supposed to do it?
[02:41] <ChmEarl> release kernel for natty server: is this it? linux-image-server_2.6.38.8.22
[02:42] <ChmEarl> ok thats it - confirmed at packages.ubuntu.com
[03:16] <aljosa> is there a natty server image available for virtualbox, kvm or something else like it's available for amazon?
[03:17] <jMCg> ChmEarl: mine says: 2.6.38-8.42
[03:31] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #772868 in samba (main) "package samba 2:3.5.8~dfsg-1ubuntu2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772868
[03:36] <hggdh> Daviey: when you are in, please try pinging me -- I may be awake still ;-)
[03:43] <Macer> is there a way that i can make users redirect to a different home directory if say... the home dir is an nfs and it goes down
[03:43] <arrrghhh> how can i 'cherry-pick' packages to be installed?
[03:46] <arrrghhh> i tried --no-install-recommends
[03:46] <arrrghhh> didn't work
[03:49] <qman__> if you're not installing recommends, you're only installing dependencies
[03:49] <qman__> so if you're trying to choose an alternate package for a dependency, just install that package first
[03:53] <arrrghhh> well i don't want the other packages to install
[03:53] <arrrghhh> i manually compiled them
[03:54] <arrrghhh> and i don't want repo version's overwriting them...
[04:06] <qman__> well, you should have compiled them into packages so they'd satisfy the dependency
[04:06] <qman__> it's either that, or now you'll have to compile everything that depends on them manually
[04:11] <qman__> third option is compiling the software such that it can coexist with the packaged version, and you just link to your version instead of the package
[04:12] <qman__> but that only works with certain types of packages
[04:15] <arrrghhh> hrm
[04:15] <arrrghhh> mplayer/mencoder
[04:15] <arrrghhh> i used checkinstall
[04:15] <arrrghhh> should've created .deb's, no?
[04:17] <twb> arrrghhh: the short answer is: don't compile your own packages.
[04:17] <arrrghhh> i prefer repo's
[04:17] <arrrghhh> but i couldn't figure out how to get mplayer/mencoder to work multithreaded in any repo version
[04:19] <arrrghhh> i can finally transcode 1080p on the fly without any stutter
[04:38] <JoeCoder> Is there a way to a2ensite without requiring an apache restart?  I'm running a service where each user has a site setup in apache, and they can sign up for a limited free account on the home page.  It would be nice to not have to restart the whole thing for everyone any time someone signs up.
[04:47] <JoeCoder> Is there a way to a2ensite without requiring an apache restart? see above
[05:00] <twister004> hi guys... I have an ubuntu 8.04 server..... Im trying to identify if my sqldump backups are completing successfully on this server... these are backups of some sql databases.... how can I ensure that the daily backups are working???.. please advise... Note that the backups are run via a sh script that is scheduled to run using a cron entry
[05:01] <ScottK> Take the backup and restore it onto a test system.
[05:01] <ScottK> That's the only way to really know.
[05:01] <ScottK> Amateurs back up.  Professionals restore too.
[05:03] <twister004> ScottK.. agreed.. but can't I view some sqldump logs to find out?....
[05:03] <ScottK> You still won't know.
[05:04] <twister004> ScottK.. I can't really go about restoring these daily backups.... daily :D
[05:04] <ScottK> No, but you should do it periodically.
[05:04] <ScottK> I don't know a lot about sqldump, but I do know that.
[05:05] <JoeCoder> You could use sql dump to restore it to another machine.  If it powers a website, you could use wget to load the website and make sure it doesn't return a 500, calling a script to email you if it does.
[05:05] <twister004> ScottK.. so there's no other way huh....hmm
[05:06] <ScottK> I'm sure you could, but I don't know exactly how.
[05:06] <ScottK> I'd restore it at least once if you haven't.
[05:14] <Macer> ok .. i'm lost
[05:14] <Macer> sorry to ask again but does anybody know if there is a way to have a simple fallback directory if a user tries to login but has an nfs home dir and it is down?
[05:21] <twb> Is there a pcap utility like tcpdump, but instead of telling me each packet, it just tells me what proportion of the traffic is on each port?
[05:22] <lifeless> iftop
[05:22] <twb> $customer asked me to work out what's chewing up their link, and I'm not allowed to just turn things off, which is how I normally do it
[05:22]  * twb tries iftop
[05:24] <twb> Urk, I just realized that the router I need to do this on is probably on of their ISP-managed cisco things
[05:34] <blahdeblah> Hi.  Any experts on initramfs & mdadm present?  I have a server which fails to mount the root filesystem on reboot.  It drops into the busybox shell claiming that there's no root filesystem.  A simple mdadm --auto-detect fixes it and the system continues to boot.  Why is this happening, and how can i get the mdadm process to continue without intervention?
[05:47] <twb> Easy thing to try is sudo update-initramfs -u -k all
[05:48] <blahdeblah> already done that
[05:48] <twb> That will rebuild the ramdisks with the current /etc/mdadm.conf
[05:48] <blahdeblah> No joy
[05:48] <twb> not sure then
[05:48] <blahdeblah> I even went to the extent of unpacking the built initrd and manually looking through the code
[05:48] <twb> Check that fstab rootfs is sane, etc
[05:49] <twb> Actually that's passed as an arg from the bootloader, so also check /boot/grub/grub.cfg or whatever it is
[05:50] <blahdeblah> Any idea how i can show the filesystem UUID to check the one in /etc/fstab & /boot/grub?
[05:50] <blahdeblah> never mind - i looked in /dev/disk/
[05:51] <twb> tune2fs -l
[05:51] <blahdeblah> Cool - looks OK
[05:52] <blahdeblah> fstab has UUID=..., but /boot/grub/menu.lst just has root=/dev/md0.  I assume both should work...
[06:04] <twb> Assuming it's md0 yes
[06:04] <twb> md0 is MORE likely to work... usually
[08:27] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #772990 in openssh (main) "Ubuntu Server 10.04.2 - sshd not accept connection over ethernet only on loopback" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/772990
[11:07] <riz0n> hey guys, I am trying to set up freeradius atop ubuntu. is there a way to integrate the username/password to use the already existing username and passwords?
[12:42] <andygraybeal> riz0n, i have no idea, but i want to do the same thing, and instead of trying to put all the peices together manually, i've decided to use 'zentyal' .... a meta package.. integrates ldap radius already for username/passwords -- i know it's not the answer to your question.
[12:43] <andygraybeal> but it is similar and it is what i am going to eventually do.  if i was smart enough.. i could setup ldap and radius w/o zentyal
[12:43] <andygraybeal> it just seems that it's a big step for me right now
[12:43] <andygraybeal> it's a little sad.. i've been doing this for too many years...
[12:44] <andygraybeal> i'll get it one day.
[12:52] <uvirtbot`> New bug: #773161 in openldap (main) "package slapd (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: subproces installed post-installation script gaf een foutwaarde 1 terug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/773161
[13:08] <Macer> seems like the release day traffic died down
[13:10] <pmatulis> ok
[13:11] <hggdh> Daviey: there already?
[14:23] <RoAkSoAx> morning all
[14:23] <jamespage> hey RoAkSoAx
[14:24] <RoAkSoAx> jamespage: heya!
[14:26] <RoAkSoAx> jamespage: how's it going today
[14:27] <jamespage> RoAkSoAx: good thanks - at puppetcamp in amsterdam
[14:27] <jamespage> ?RoAkSoAx: hows things for you?
[14:28] <RoAkSoAx> jamespage: cool.!! Pretty good.. just starting the day and convincing upstreams to drop by UDS :)
[14:29] <jamespage> RoAkSoAx: sounds like fun :-)
[14:29] <jamespage> RoAkSoAx: looking forward to visiting budapest?
[14:30] <RoAkSoAx> jamespage: yeah!! can't wait!
[14:30] <jamespage> cool
[14:30] <RoAkSoAx> how about yourself?
[14:31] <jamespage> jamespage: should be good - just need to focus on getting my blueprints filed....
[14:33] <RoAkSoAx> cool
[14:35] <smb> Speaking of blueprints... Is there already one that would be placeholder for a general session on bringing up anything that needs support, clarification, improvement in general between server and kernel?
[14:39] <nerdy_kid> hello, I am getting [error] [client 71.174.117.203] File does not exist: /etc/apache2/htdocs in my apache logs and a 404 error when I try to access my site.
[14:40] <nerdy_kid> if I set the virtual server to accept all connections instead of from only example.com then it works
[14:40] <RoAkSoAx> smb: I don't think there's a blueprint filed, though the idea was suggested and approved
[14:41] <smb> RoAkSoAx, Ok, so I guess I have the honors of creating one...
[15:34] <Vhozard> network adapter
[15:35] <Vhozard> how can I check whats wrong?
[15:35] <_ruben> eh?
[15:35] <Vhozard> (using virtualbox on windows 7)
[15:35] <Vhozard> have it set as bridged, yet it cant resolve google.com
[15:35] <_ruben> how about starting with describing the actual problem ;)
[15:35] <_ruben> wifi or wired ?
[15:35] <Vhozard> no internet acces
[15:35] <Vhozard> eth0 wired
[15:36] <Vhozard> it worked yesterday
[15:36] <Vhozard> started the machine today, no internet
[15:36] <_ruben> can you ping the host?
[15:36] <Vhozard> I cant
[15:37] <Vhozard> i just did "ping [ip]"
[15:37] <Vhozard> thats right ?
[15:37] <_ruben> assuming you used the actual ip instead of [ip], yes :)
[15:38] <Vhozard> :)
[15:38] <Vhozard> "connect: Network is unreachable"
[15:38] <_ruben> tho seems to be a very low level issue, dont have any experience with vbox though, only vmware products
[15:38] <_ruben> i assume you use dhcp? does it get an ip address from the dhcp server? can check with "ip a"
[15:39] <Vhozard> hmm
[15:39] <Vhozard> it shows lo and eth2
[15:40] <Vhozard> but no ipv4
[15:41] <Vhozard> only an ipv6: 08:00:27:8d:42:08
[15:41] <Vhozard> and ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[15:41] <kpettit> anybody know of a wiki type app where you can just type the URL of a new page you want, but that uses HTML instead of wiki formatting?
[15:44] <Vhozard> howto restart networking?
[15:44] <Vhozard> sudo /etc/network restart or something?
[15:44] <kpettit> Vhozard, you can do that or you can do "ifdown eth0" then "ifup eth0" type of thing
[15:45] <smb> Vhozard, Would be sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:45] <Vhozard> it wont go down
[15:45] <Vhozard> ..
[15:45] <Vhozard> it says its not there
[15:46] <Vhozard> and eth0~4 dont exist
[15:46] <Vhozard> :(
[15:46] <kpettit> Vhozard, try the "ifdown eth0" then "ifup eth0"
[15:46] <smb> Vhozard, To me it sounds a bit like for some reason dhcp (if that is used) did not succeed
[15:46] <Vhozard> eth0: error while getting interface flags
[15:46] <Vhozard> No such device
[15:46] <Vhozard> wth
[15:46] <kpettit> The etc/init.d/networking script always seems to have issues for me when I'm tweaking things.  So doing it manually with the ifup/ifdown work better for me
[15:47] <kpettit> you can do "ifconfig" to see your network devices.
[15:47] <Vhozard> thanks
[15:47] <Vhozard> only loopback is there
[15:47] <kpettit> then your network isn't setup yet.  Maybe it didn't see your network device.
[15:48] <Vhozard> its running in virtualbox
[15:48] <kpettit> Oh.  With virtualbox you can change your network card type.  Sometimes that makes a difference.
[15:48] <Vhozard> how can I view the system start log?
[15:49] <kpettit> I would just change the virtualbox network device for your ubuntu system and reboot it.
[15:49] <Vhozard> it worked previously
[15:49] <Vhozard> and I kinda need 1gbps
[15:49] <Vhozard> but ill try
[15:52] <Vhozard> ugh
[15:52] <Vhozard> doesnt work
[15:52] <Vhozard> still only displays lo
[15:52] <Vhozard> anyway to reinstall eth0 ?
[15:53] <Vhozard> or atleast see startup messages ?
[15:54] <smb> Vhozard, MAybe looking into /etc/udev/rules.d helps. There is a file *persistent-net* which maps mac addresses to ethx
[15:55] <smb> Usually /etc/network/interfaces has only one auto entry for eth0, so if for some reason the nic is getting set to eth1+ it won't get any ip
[15:57] <Vhozard> auto eth0
[15:58] <Vhozard> thats good
[15:58] <Vhozard> also
[15:58] <Vhozard> How can I change the res to 1080p ?
[15:58] <Vhozard> I used to use vga=...
[15:58] <Vhozard> but whats the proper way to do it?
[15:58] <_ruben> 1080p for a server :S
[15:59] <_ruben> btw, those werent ipv6, they were mac addresses
[15:59] <Vhozard> i know indeed :(
[16:01] <Vhozard> but how can I get a higher resolution?
[16:01] <RoAkSoAx> TREllis: ping
[16:01] <_ruben> dunno, i don't really care about a console's resolution
[16:02] <Vhozard> 640x480 is crap
[16:02] <Vhozard> :/
[16:02] <_ruben> 640x480 doesn't sounds very testmode'ish to me...
[16:02] <_ruben> s/test/text/
[16:03] <Vhozard> vga=799 gives me 1600x900
[16:03] <Vhozard> much better
[16:05] <Vhozard> 1600x1200 actually...
[16:05] <Vhozard> hmmm, this is weird
[16:05] <Vhozard> it recognizes the network adapter
[16:06] <Vhozard> it says its loading the intel1000t drivers (right ones)
[16:06] <Vhozard> then it says: udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth3
[16:06] <Vhozard> but whe I do sudo ifup eth3 it says its "unknown interface"
[16:06] <smb> Vhozard, That is the effect of the udev file I mentioned
[16:07] <Vhozard> . /etc/udev/rules.d is a folder
[16:07] <smb> if you delete all entries in the persistent-net (70-something I don't remember exactly)
[16:08] <smb> which say mac and eth something, then the next boot starts fresh from eth0
[16:08] <Vhozard> k done
[16:08] <Vhozard> will reboot now
[16:09] <Vhozard> yay
[16:09] <Vhozard> wget google.com
[16:09] <Vhozard> it works :)
[16:09] <Vhozard> thanks smb!
[16:09] <Vhozard> can you maybe explain why it did that?
[16:10] <smb> Well, the persistent file tries to keep your network cards always the same interface
[16:10] <Vhozard> ah
[16:10] <smb> Unfortunately if you change cards or use the same image on different hosts you get new interfaces
[16:10] <smb> but the networking configuration does not keep up with that
[16:11] <smb> So either you can add lines for each eth in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:11] <smb> or you housekeep the persistent names file
[16:13] <Vhozard> any reason why the boot wont show anything btw?
[16:16] <smb> Vhozard, It sort of is not really seen as a problem. Your configuration says give eth0 this ip, ok, there is no eth0 but an eth1 or 2 but nobody said what to do with those
[16:16] <smb> so they get ignored
[16:17] <Vhozard> ah
[16:17] <Vhozard> whats the highest res I can get with vbeinfo btw?
[16:17] <Vhozard> GRUB_GFXMODE=
[16:17] <Vhozard> actually ^
[16:18] <smb> Cannot say much about those kind of things as I usually don't care for server installs
[16:18] <genii-around> Vhozard: Not sure, but I've set mine up to 1680x945
[16:19] <Vhozard> that doesnt work :(
[16:20] <genii-around> It should be some values that your videocard and monitor both support of course
[16:20] <Vhozard> they support it
[16:21] <Vhozard> 1080p screen here
[16:22] <genii-around> Vhozard: After you made it like 1920x1080, did you update-grub ?
[16:22] <Vhozard> ofc
[16:22] <genii-around> Maybe you need some framebuffer for your card
[16:23] <Vhozard> i just ran vbeinfo in grub
[16:23] <Vhozard> it spit out 1600x1200
[16:23] <Vhozard> with the next option being 1280x1024
[16:23] <Vhozard> :(
[16:23] <Vhozard> that big enough for me though :)
[16:26] <lynxman> hey kirkland
[16:26] <lynxman> handling bug #653405 that affects rabbitmq-server
[16:26] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 653405 in rabbitmq-server "rabbitmq-server fails to start if hostname is unresolvable or has changed since first starting" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653405
[16:26] <kirkland> lynxman: howdy!
[16:27] <lynxman> I'll post a patch for it in a few mins (just postinst script to check that name is resolvable or in /etc/hosts)
[16:27] <kirkland> lynxman: updated ;-)
[16:27] <lynxman> kirkland: aah excellent :) thanks a bunch
[16:27] <kirkland> lynxman: in the changelog entry, make sure you target it to natty-proposed (rather than natty)
[16:27] <lynxman> cool, will have that in mind
[16:28] <lynxman> thanks again ^^
[16:28] <kirkland> lynxman: and grab a coffee and give this a thorough read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates
[16:28] <lynxman> kirkland: cool! will do :)
[16:31] <lynxman> kirkland: btw added a big list of postinst and postrm scripts to mcollective and all plugin packages on orchestra to be a lot more in line with policy and clean
[16:32] <lynxman> kirkland: we're at a close point of being able to install ubuntu-orchestra-server and ubuntu-orchestra-client and be fully functional \o/
[16:35] <Vhozard> Is ubuntu Landscape possible for me?
[16:35] <Vhozard> (dont wanna pay)
[16:35] <kirkland> lynxman: saaaaweeeet :-)
[16:35] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: what do you call powernap's style of configuration file?
[16:36] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: what do you mena?
[16:36] <RoAkSoAx> mean*
[16:37] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i'm just wondering if there's a name for that [bracket] style of configuration file
[16:38] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ah! yes, [powernap] is for the options of powernap daemon itself
[16:38] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: while [XyzMonitor] is for each monitor
[16:38] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: yes, i understand that
[16:38] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i mean, what do you call that kind of syntax
[16:38] <patdk-wk> windows ini file?
[16:38] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ohh Python Config Parser
[16:39] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: cool, thanks.
[16:39] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: welcome!
[16:44] <pmatulis> Vhozard: dont wanna pay?
[16:45] <_ruben> landscape is only commercially available afaik, so no free rides
[16:46] <pmatulis> Vhozard: you can get a trial account, it expires after a month i think
[16:47] <Doonz> hey guys im using rsync to copy data from one raid array to the other. When i run rsync a 2nd time it retransfers all the files. how do i make rsync stop doing that
[16:47] <Doonz> im just using the -vr options
 Vhozard: dont wanna pay?
[16:50] <Vhozard> nope
[16:51] <pmatulis> Vhozard: then get something else
[16:51] <Vhozard> I asked
[16:51] <Vhozard> is there something similair ?
[16:52] <pmatulis> Vhozard: you asked "Is ubuntu Landscape possible for me?"
[16:52] <Vhozard> oh, I asked in another channel then if there is something similair :P
[16:52] <Vhozard> is there?
[16:52] <pmatulis> Vhozard: nope
[16:59] <_ruben> Doonz: apparently for some reason rsync all files have changed in the meantime
[16:59] <Doonz> hmm
[16:59] <Doonz> its like 400GB of data files that havent been touched in 6 months
[16:59] <genii-around> Doonz: Perhaps use also the -a switch
[17:00] <genii-around> Or -u for "update-only"
[17:00] <Doonz> well ill t-u was the key
[17:00] <Doonz> lol
[17:01] <Doonz> -u was the key
[17:01] <_ruben> ah, missed the -vr comment, i tend to use -av
[17:02] <Doonz> well thank gawd cause i didnt wanna re-do the whole transfer again
[17:06] <Doonz> thanx for the help
[17:12] <ScottK> robbiew: I went ahead and made a spec for the one item I added to the server team list: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-o-split-cloud
[17:12] <ScottK> Please approve ...
[17:13] <robbiew> ScottK: okay, thnx for the heads up
[17:15] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: by any chance do you have a sample preseed that points to a local mirror?
[17:15] <Macer> does anybody know a good place for information on setting up coda in ubuntu server?
[17:15] <robbiew> ScottK: done
[17:16] <Macer> well.. ubuntu.. i would like to try  coda out instead of using nfs
[17:16] <Macer> for the caching
[17:27] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i can get you one easily
[17:28] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: will it work with NQA?
[17:29] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: it's just an extra line or two you need to add to NQA
[17:30] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: see: http://www.debian.org/releases/lenny/example-preseed.txt
[17:30] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: go to the ### Mirror settings section
[17:30] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: this is what you need to add to the NQA
[17:31] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: cool thanks!
[17:31] <martyn> So .. um .. I crashed the gobby server just now
[17:36] <hallyn> zul: SpamapS : at this point, bug 394350 looks like your bag, baby.
[17:36] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 394350 in apache2 "RLimitCPU has no effect in Apache" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/394350
[17:38] <zul> haylln: okie dokie
[17:39] <Macer> i cant find any documentation for ubuntu using coda
[17:40] <lynxman> kirkland: is it okay if I remove the collectd dependency for now? package fails to install due to collectd having no default conffile, would like to comment it out for now then work on it and add it again
[17:55] <skrite> hey all
[17:56] <RoyK> hi
[17:57] <Macer> wow
[17:57] <Macer> what is wrong with nfs4 and permissions??
[17:57] <skrite> hey all, i have one mysql table with about 5 million rows and queries take longer to draw off this table that some with 50 million rows. they are all myIsam.
[17:57] <Macer> i have some number where my user andf grp should be
[17:58] <Macer> does nfs4 not work?
[18:01] <jbroome> ok, i looked on the forums and irc log archives.  are launchpad.net repos failing a known issue?
[18:03] <hallyn> zul: thanks :)
[18:03] <RoyK> Macer: nfs4 relies on kerberos for authentication
[18:03] <kirkland> lynxman: sure
[18:03] <kirkland> lynxman: please do
[18:03] <lynxman> kirkland: cool, ty
[18:03] <RoyK> Macer: without kerberos, user/group will be mapped to anonymous, at least on some platforms
[18:04] <kirkland> lynxman: welcome
[18:07] <Macer> ah ok thanks
[18:08] <Macer> i will set up kerberos when i get home
[18:08] <RoyK> or just use nfs3
[18:08] <Macer> it will be something fun to do
[18:08] <RoyK> yeah :)
[18:08] <Macer> does  kerberos authenticate uid/gid from a central server?
[18:08] <Macer> as in for logins?
[18:09] <Macer> that would be nice as i really dont feel like clawing at my own face setting ldap up
[18:09] <RoyK> yes
[18:09] <Macer> so it can make  a universal passwd?
[18:10] <RoyK> there's where ldap comes in
[18:10] <Macer> and authenticates agaheh
[18:10] <Macer> oh
[18:10] <RoyK> kerberos is just an authentication mechanism used by other services, like ldap :P
[18:10] <Macer> damn
[18:10] <RoyK> but I think you may be able to use nis+kerberos
[18:10] <RoyK> never tried that, though
[18:11] <RoyK> anyway - nis is old and quite rotten, I'd recommend ldap
[18:11] <Macer> so in order to have one server auth and manage passwd i need ldap?
[18:11] <RoyK> or nis
[18:11] <RoyK> it's probably easier with nis
[18:11] <Macer> nis is still around?
[18:11] <Macer> :)
[18:11] <RoyK> yeah :)
[18:11] <Macer> wow
[18:11] <Macer> i will try ldap
[18:11] <RoyK> lol
[18:11] <Macer> hopefully it isnt too difficult
[18:12] <RoyK> google for it :)
[18:12] <Macer> i  will
[18:12] <Macer> not home now and dont feel like doing it over my phone
[18:13] <Macer> sounds like something with a learning curve
[18:13] <Macer> and i think i just now figured out the acls
[18:14] <RoyK> everything has a learning curve, but the ldap curve might be a little steeper than that of using windows 7 :P
[18:35] <Macer> haha
[18:35] <Macer> well... hopefully it isnt too bad
[18:35] <ruben23>  hi guys i have setup kvm on my ubuntu server with guest VM, not working well but my bridge network guest VM is not connecting outside-no internt at all both gess and host can ping each other.
[18:35] <Macer> i would love to just  add users on one server
[18:35] <Macer> small stuff and been just creating the accts manually
[18:39]  * SpamapS realizes that oneiric is open.. time to upload mysql 5.5 :-d
[18:41] <lynxman> SpamapS: oh, repo is open already? neat
[18:42] <lynxman> SpamapS: btw just uploaded a patch to LP: #653405 doesn't fully resolve the issue but it does a small pre-check on hostname being resolvable
[18:43] <SpamapS> but 653405
[18:44] <SpamapS> bug 653405
[18:44] <uvirtbot`> Launchpad bug 653405 in rabbitmq-server "rabbitmq-server fails to start if hostname is unresolvable or has changed since first starting" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/653405
[18:44] <SpamapS> lynxman: sweet
[18:44] <lynxman> SpamapS: it's just a way to go around the issue for now :)
[18:44] <SpamapS> lynxman: there are some fixes in the next version that make that bug less bad.
[18:44] <lynxman> SpamapS: sweet!
[18:45] <SpamapS> lynxman: I believe the "or has changed..." part will go away
[18:45] <SpamapS> lynxman: and they may have provided a way to override the hostname now
[18:45] <SpamapS> oi.. realizing the oneiric is open now just made me realize how many things I've been holding off on the last 2 months...
[18:45] <lynxman> SpamapS: I needed to get around that bug for mcollective dependencies, cloud hosts install by default with no resolvable hostname, otherwise mcollective-middleware fails postinst checks
[18:45]  * SpamapS downshifts and hits the gas
[18:46] <lynxman> SpamapS: and we depend on that for orchestra too, it causes a domino effect
[18:46] <lynxman> SpamapS: same goes for cobbler installed servers
[18:47] <SpamapS> lynxman: IIRC, there's also an issue in our "old 'n busted" version of erlang that is a component of the problems.
[18:47] <lynxman> SpamapS: yeah that's what zul told me
[19:18] <zul> lynxman, ping
[19:21] <lynxman> hey zul o/
[19:23] <pmatulis> anyone using pam_mount with cifs shares?  silly things don't unmount on logout
[19:28] <pmatulis> good lord, i had to use 'umount -fl'
[19:28] <zul> gah
[19:28] <zul> lynxman: for the rabbitmq-server bug what is that attachment is it a debdiff or something else?
[19:29] <lynxman> zul: it's a patch
[19:29] <lynxman> zul: so a regular diff
[19:29] <lynxman> zul: I have it also as a deb package though, how can I make a debdiff out of it?
[19:29] <zul> ok thanks
[19:29] <zul> debdiff *ubuntu1.dsc *ubuntu2.dsc
[19:30] <lynxman> zul: if you prefer a debdiff I can get it sorted
[19:30] <zul> lynxman: also that bug should be fixed in oneiric once we merge in the new erlang
[19:30] <zul> lynxman, please :)
[19:30] <lynxman> zul: cool, gimme just 2 ticks
[19:33] <lynxman> zul: done
[19:34] <zul> lynxman, thanks ill get to it today
[19:34] <lynxman> zul: thank you!
[19:37] <mkrieger> hey folks—we're seeing periodic freeze-ups of about 3 seconds on our ec2 (m2.4xlarge) instances, running 10.04 with the 2.6.32-314-ec2 kernel. we've tried moving it to an entirely different box (with new EBS drives) with no luck—same problems result. has anyone seen something similar?
[19:38] <mkrieger> (during that time, no IO to the network happens, which means all the Postgres queries time out; sar shows that no IO to any of the EBS drives occurs during those seconds)
[19:39] <pmatulis> mkrieger: dunno, try #ubuntu-cloud
[19:39] <mkrieger> pmatulis: thx, will head over there
[19:52] <ttx> kirkland: read your blog post. You might want to connect with soren and ask him how the same discussion went at Maverick UDS when he discussed https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/server-maverick-conffiles-and-puppet
[19:53] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: do you guys already have any setup to use squid-deb-proxy already?
[19:57] <kirkland> ttx: thanks for the reminder
[19:57] <kirkland> soren: ?
[20:14] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: So I've been looking a bit more into this, and it seems that everytime we netboot the installer wget's files. So if we wanted to use a local mirror (and configure the preseed) we would need have packages already in the local mirror.
[20:14] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: haven't yet tried having squid-deb-proxy
[20:14] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: that's what the transparent proxy is supposed to do
[20:15] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: yeah that's what I was comming, cause been trying with approx (cause I've been using it) with no look
[20:16] <RoAkSoAx> lucj*
[20:20] <robo> hi: there is an ubuntu server farm i just inherited and they're rolling out ubuntu 9.10 on fresh installs. Any ideas why they're doing this and not 11.04 or 10.04 LTS?
[20:21] <Pici> Thats rather silly.
[20:22] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: i think we need to create a squid-deb-proxy-udeb
[20:23] <kirkland> RoAkSoAx: and we need to install that very, very early on the client being provisioned
[20:23] <kirkland> sorry, RoAkSoAx: squid-deb-proxy-client-udeb
[20:23] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: right, but still we need a source from where to download the initial files which should be a local mirror
[20:25] <Pici> robo: 9.10's EOL date is today.
[20:27] <ScottK> robo: Does the server farm's use involve PHP?
[20:30] <ScottK> If so, php5 5.3 in newer releases may be why.
[20:30] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: The only place where I see this as a bit more complicated is with mini.iso's. Because, in complete server ISO imports, we can just install from the ISO at first, and once installed, it will just have squid-deb-proxy-client and that's it.
[20:31] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: however, the mini.iso will have to obtain the necessary bits from the Internet or a pre-loaded mirror
[20:33] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: unless in the preseed it's possible to tell that there's an APT proxy, and point to it
[20:36] <robo> ScottK, it involves coldfusion not php :-/
[20:36] <robo> so why the heck are we rolling out 9.10
[20:36] <robo> Guess i better find out :-)
[20:38] <talntid> Is the latest PHP in the repos 5.2? I can't seem to find 5.3.6 or similar...
[20:41] <pmatulis> mkrieger: did you get it figured out?
[20:42] <robo> If you're running a server farm of ~30 servers and you need it to be stable, is LTS your best bet?
[20:42] <robo> Not sure if I should go with 10.04 LTS or 11.04
[20:42] <pmatulis> robo: all releases are "stable"
[20:43] <pmatulis> robo: it's just that LTS is supported for a longer period and the changes that do go into it (updates) are less intrusive
[20:43] <pmatulis> !LTS
[20:44] <robo> so updates are less intrusive?
[20:44] <pmatulis> robo: they are put in with more care
[20:45] <pmatulis> robo: (less chance of regression)
[20:45] <robo> so if stability matters one should go with a LTS version?
[20:45] <pmatulis> robo: if you use stability in that way then yes
[20:45] <robo> Then how to SRU's fit in?
[20:45] <robo> s/to/do/
[20:45] <pmatulis> robo: SRU = updates
[20:46] <pmatulis> !SRU
[20:46] <robo> SRU's should already be very stable, no? So if you're running LTS or non-LTS as long as you're updating using SRU packages then you should be stable regardless, right?
[20:46] <robo> Or maybe better said, you'l l have the same level of stability
[20:46] <pmatulis> robo: like i said, SRU to an LTS is done with more care
[20:47] <robo> Oh... even more care
[20:47] <robo> gotcha
[20:47] <pmatulis> yes
[20:47] <robo> gotcha, ty
[20:47] <robo> so i then need to figure out what versions of software the LTS has to offer and work from there
[20:47] <robo> is there an easy way to do this?
[20:48] <pmatulis> robo: well if you were about to go with 9.10 i'm sure 10.04 will do no?
[20:48] <ScottK> talntid: Latest in 11.04 is 5.3.5.
[20:48] <robo> yeah, but i'm not sure what all they did to these servers. They might have stuff compiled in for all i know
[20:50] <talntid> ok
[20:59] <Macer> hm
[21:11] <_SHuN_> after upgraded my kernel the MOTD is dupplicated
[22:04] <alaing> would read/write restrict a file from being downloaded?
[23:12] <david5345> I installed qemu/libvirt/virsh on my vm server, I want to call 'virt-install' to install a non ubuntu vm. Trouble is it want's a network name. I have two bridges br0 and br1 that I use, I think I have to define them in /etc/libvirt/qemu/networks, but I am unsure how to write this file for a bridged ethernet connection. Please advise.
[23:13] <david5345> Ha
[23:13] <david5345> I should have called --bridge instead of --network
[23:42] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: ping
[23:42] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: i think it's done :D xD
[23:43] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: it seems it was just a missing http://
[23:54] <RoAkSoAx> kirkland: using the proxy seems way slower than having a mirror though!!