| seattlegaucho | does that mean that valorie like KDE prior to v3? ;) | 01:24 |
|---|---|---|
| valorie | not sure of the dates | 02:06 |
| valorie | ever since Mandrake | 02:07 |
| valorie | maybe around 2002 or 3? | 02:07 |
| valorie | I kept looking at gnome, and saying ummmm, no | 02:07 |
| * valorie has her own release party here, with pizza AND beer | 02:07 | |
| valorie | and torrents, and backups | 02:08 |
| valorie | no upgrade yet | 02:08 |
| valorie | backup taking for-frickin-ever | 02:08 |
| * seattlegaucho needs to go home ... it has been bad week this far ... need to survive tomorrow | 02:23 | |
| valorie | {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{hugs}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}} to seattlegaucho | 02:25 |
| valorie | will I see you this weekend? | 02:25 |
| seattlegaucho | nope ... I have to go to Pulman ... the other corner of the state ... to visit my son @ WSU | 02:26 |
| seattlegaucho | but I would've love to be @ LNW | 02:26 |
| valorie | I would say bummer, but good to be with kidz | 02:26 |
| seattlegaucho | I haven't gone in 3 years and I miss it dearly | 02:27 |
| seattlegaucho | yeah, my 6' 2" *baby* | 02:27 |
| valorie | lol | 02:27 |
| seattlegaucho | :) | 02:27 |
| valorie | my 6'2" baby was here last weekend for Easter | 02:27 |
| seattlegaucho | :) | 02:28 |
| valorie | taking the trip to Bellingham with my oldest son | 02:28 |
| seattlegaucho | he always reminds of my dad ... "no matter how old your babies are ... you'll always be a parent" | 02:28 |
| valorie | nice to get both | 02:28 |
| valorie | :-) | 02:28 |
| valorie | oh, for sure | 02:28 |
| seattlegaucho | my dad passed away long ago ... but my son has all the ticks and mannerisms that used to annoy me | 02:29 |
| seattlegaucho | can't blame it on hanging out with him ... it has to be genetics | 02:29 |
| seattlegaucho | ... and karma :) | 02:29 |
| seattlegaucho | that's what I tell my kids "may your kids behave the same way you did" :) | 02:30 |
| seattlegaucho | ... see ya | 02:30 |
| Lancelot | hello | 04:38 |
| valorie | hi Lancelot | 04:51 |
| valorie | happy release day! | 04:51 |
| Lancelot | really? | 04:52 |
| Lancelot | when was this? | 04:52 |
| * valorie is still preparing for the upgrade | 04:52 | |
| valorie | new *buntus today | 04:52 |
| Lancelot | to be honest I stopped | 04:52 |
| Lancelot | I'm on karmic still | 04:52 |
| valorie | Natty Narwhal | 04:52 |
| Lancelot | I find the changes to gnome ugly | 04:52 |
| valorie | oh, I loved Lucid | 04:52 |
| valorie | Mav was good too | 04:52 |
| valorie | well, i use Kubuntu | 04:52 |
| valorie | I always think gnome is ugly | 04:53 |
| valorie | lol | 04:53 |
| Lancelot | :p | 04:53 |
| Lancelot | does compiz work in gnome? | 04:53 |
| Lancelot | kDE* | 04:53 |
| Lancelot | I meant to say | 04:53 |
| valorie | yes, if you want it | 04:53 |
| valorie | we have built-in effects | 04:53 |
| Lancelot | I like my special effects | 04:53 |
| Lancelot | I don't use all of them | 04:53 |
| valorie | Kwin | 04:53 |
| Lancelot | but the ones I do I love | 04:53 |
| valorie | sure, you can choose which you like | 04:53 |
| valorie | and which you don't | 04:54 |
| valorie | I don't like most of them | 04:54 |
| valorie | wobbly windows is silly to me | 04:54 |
| valorie | but I like blur | 04:54 |
| valorie | and transparency | 04:54 |
| Lancelot | blur...eww | 04:56 |
| valorie | lol | 04:56 |
| Lancelot | and yeah, the wobbly windows is awful | 04:56 |
| Lancelot | transparency is just sort of there | 04:56 |
| valorie | everything in KDE is configurabel | 04:56 |
| Lancelot | I don't use it heavily | 04:56 |
| valorie | you have it just the way you want it | 04:56 |
| Lancelot | I really love expo, and the cube though | 04:56 |
| valorie | ok | 04:56 |
| valorie | lol | 04:56 |
| valorie | dunno what expo is, and the cube seems silly | 04:56 |
| Lancelot | plus cube gears | 04:57 |
| Lancelot | :/ | 04:57 |
| Lancelot | it's great! | 04:57 |
| valorie | my son loves it though | 04:57 |
| Lancelot | expo displays all the workspaces side by side | 04:57 |
| valorie | ok | 04:57 |
| Lancelot | you can move windows around between them | 04:57 |
| Lancelot | pretty useful actually | 04:57 |
| valorie | not sure taht KDE has that, but maybe it doesn | 04:57 |
| valorie | does | 04:58 |
| Lancelot | the only thing I hate about compiz, is that if you hibernate it messes up when you boot up again | 04:58 |
| valorie | you can ask in #kubuntu or #KDE | 04:58 |
| Lancelot | I think that was fixed, but I'm still using karmic | 04:58 |
| Lancelot | so meh? | 04:58 |
| valorie | hmm, I've never noticed that | 04:58 |
| valorie | but then, I don't use compiz | 04:58 |
| Lancelot | yeah | 04:58 |
| valorie | I use kwin | 04:58 |
| Lancelot | how about unity? | 04:59 |
| Lancelot | I don't really like it to be honest | 04:59 |
| valorie | we use KDE | 04:59 |
| valorie | so no unity | 04:59 |
| Lancelot | the whole loco team? | 04:59 |
| valorie | kubuntu, I mean | 04:59 |
| Lancelot | I see | 04:59 |
| valorie | wow, the multiboot USB I just set up | 05:00 |
| Lancelot | I hate how all the OS vendors are trying to make their interfaces look like stuff found on mobile devices | 05:00 |
| valorie | will automatically set up whatever you want in a VM | 05:01 |
| valorie | that's awesome | 05:01 |
| Lancelot | ? | 05:01 |
| Lancelot | wha? | 05:01 |
| valorie | http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/ | 05:01 |
| Lancelot | oh | 05:01 |
| Lancelot | neat | 05:01 |
| Lancelot | I just use VBox, but that works too I guess | 05:01 |
| valorie | I'm making sure that if I have trouble in the upgrade | 05:01 |
| valorie | I have a live USB | 05:01 |
| Lancelot | always have one | 05:01 |
| valorie | well, my other one went somewhere | 05:02 |
| Lancelot | I'd personally just prefer to completely clean everything out | 05:02 |
| Lancelot | reinstall the OS entirely | 05:02 |
| valorie | can't remember if I lent it, or what | 05:02 |
| valorie | I did that for mav | 05:02 |
| Lancelot | that way you don't have issues with clutter from the last version | 05:02 |
| valorie | I think this upgrade should be fine | 05:02 |
| valorie | I've heard of very few problems | 05:02 |
| valorie | next time I'll do it clean | 05:02 |
| Lancelot | ah | 05:02 |
| valorie | or this time if there are problems | 05:02 |
| valorie | I just did a backup | 05:02 |
| Lancelot | I just prefer to avoid the mess and do it directly | 05:03 |
| Lancelot | why mess around? | 05:03 |
| valorie | the upgrade needs testing too | 05:04 |
| valorie | both ways have worked well for me | 05:04 |
| Lancelot | last time I tried upgrading a bunch of stuff borked | 05:06 |
| Lancelot | sound went wonky | 05:06 |
| Lancelot | gnome pooped itself | 05:06 |
| Lancelot | etc. | 05:06 |
| valorie | heh | 05:07 |
| valorie | that's gnome for ya | 05:07 |
| valorie | lol | 05:07 |
| Lancelot | eh | 05:07 |
| Lancelot | not really | 05:07 |
| Lancelot | mishandled update | 05:07 |
| Lancelot | so how many folks are in this group? | 05:07 |
| valorie | I was just kidding | 05:07 |
| valorie | people should use what they like | 05:07 |
| Lancelot | I can never pick up sarcasm over text | 05:07 |
| valorie | I think there is maybe 2 or 3 times of the chan members on the list | 05:08 |
| valorie | rather tiny for an entire state | 05:08 |
| valorie | but I guess as the homebase of Microsoft..... | 05:08 |
| Lancelot | lol | 05:09 |
| valorie | i think we just need leadership | 05:10 |
| valorie | I don't have time, Linda doesn't have time, Salt doesn't have time, etc. etc. | 05:10 |
| Lancelot | I don't have time :/ | 05:10 |
| valorie | there ya go | 05:11 |
| valorie | one of these days we'll attract the right person | 05:11 |
| valorie | or one of us will choose to make the time | 05:11 |
| Lancelot | it's kinda sad that ubuntu teams are the only locos really left active | 05:11 |
| valorie | GSLUG is still active | 05:12 |
| Lancelot | haven't heard of them | 05:12 |
| valorie | the Open Source meetup is active | 05:12 |
| valorie | try #gslug | 05:12 |
| Lancelot | I meant linux specifically | 05:12 |
| Lancelot | but sure | 05:12 |
| valorie | are you coming to linuxfest northwest this weekend? | 05:12 |
| valorie | right, that is greater Seattle LUG | 05:12 |
| Lancelot | can't make it this year | 05:13 |
| valorie | boo | 05:13 |
| Lancelot | haven't actually been to one before | 05:13 |
| valorie | last year was my first | 05:14 |
| valorie | I'm going up tomorrow with my oldest son | 05:14 |
| Lancelot | actually, bellingham might be possible | 05:19 |
| Lancelot | I don't know | 05:19 |
| valorie | even just Saturday is useful | 05:21 |
| valorie | even if you can't stay the night | 05:22 |
| Lancelot | there's some pretty nice stuff that day | 05:22 |
| valorie | or Sunday, but a bit less so | 05:22 |
| valorie | the drive up will be pretty too | 05:23 |
| valorie | tulips and such | 05:23 |
| Lancelot | where are you driving from? | 05:23 |
| valorie | I live right outside Black Diamond | 05:44 |
| valorie | and my son is in south Seattle | 05:44 |
| valorie | so we'll just zip up 5 | 05:44 |
| Lancelot | shouldn't be a horribly long drive | 05:46 |
| Lancelot | well I'm gonna jump off | 05:50 |
| Lancelot | bye | 05:50 |
| androidbruce | the ubuntu servers must be hammered, my upgrade is taking a while | 06:17 |
| androidbruce | getting these new packages taking a while | 06:17 |
| aendruk | it's usually worth switching to a local mirror | 06:19 |
| androidbruce | i'm mid upgrade right now | 06:19 |
| androidbruce | it's downloading packages | 06:19 |
| androidbruce | not sure how to choose a diff mirror | 06:19 |
| aendruk | oh, a dist-upgrade? | 06:19 |
| androidbruce | yes | 06:20 |
| aendruk | wouldn't want to mess with that | 06:21 |
| androidbruce | i am giving it a shot | 06:21 |
| androidbruce | im anticipating a full fresh install | 06:22 |
| androidbruce | upgrade went w/o a hitch ;) | 19:21 |
| aendruk | Will anyone here be in the vicinity of Bellevue today? Or Valorie, I forget where you live, but might you be passing nearby on your drive north? | 20:57 |
| valorie | sorry, we are heading up I-5 -- why? | 21:06 |
| aendruk | Stack Exchange offered to cover the costs of printing some Ask Ubuntu cards for our table at LFNW — http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/1278/is-it-okay-to-set-these-out-on-our-table-at-linuxfest-northwest — but accidentally ordered them at a print shop in Bellevue instead of Bellingham. If someone besides me could pick them up then they could avoid having to cancel and reorder somewhere else. | 21:11 |
| valorie | OK, I'll do it | 21:12 |
| valorie | where is the shop? In fact, can you email me the name and address to valorie.zimmerman@gmail.com so it's on my phone? | 21:13 |
| aendruk | When are you planning on leaving? Another complication is that the cards wouldn't be ready until 5:00pm and the shop closes at 6:00pm. :) | 21:13 |
| valorie | shoot | 21:14 |
| valorie | am leaving in about 20 mins | 21:14 |
| aendruk | Okay, don't worry about it then. | 21:14 |
| valorie | maybe androidbruce could pick them up? | 21:14 |
| valorie | he or seattlegaucho work in Bellevue | 21:14 |
| aendruk | The cards haven't been made yet, so they're checking for a place in Bellingham as we speak. | 21:15 |
| valorie | cool | 21:15 |
| aendruk | Just got an update. They'll be ready for me to pick up on my way home from campus today. So awesome. | 21:24 |
| valorie | SUPER! | 21:25 |
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