| RAOF | It's always interesting to catch up with the linaro guys. | 00:17 |
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| jcastro | bryceh: you're sorted with your Xorg team session on Thursday, right after lunch so you guys will be nice and happy. | 02:39 |
| Sarvatt | jcastro: thanks a ton for that | 02:45 |
| RAOF | We should probably have a wayland-specific session, now that I think of it. | 02:47 |
| jcastro | RAOF: remember that there is an -o- in the titles, so I encourage you to do something that makes desktop-wayland-o-matic-something-clever | 02:57 |
| RAOF | Heh. | 02:57 |
| RAOF | The nomenclature is desktop-o, though right? | 02:57 |
| soreau | <diegoviola> RAOF: strange, ubuntu people are talking about shipping wayland as the default in 11.10 | 04:26 |
| soreau | ;) | 04:26 |
| bjsnider | yeah, that's going to happen | 04:58 |
| bjsnider | 5000 developers and 100000 testers are working 24/7 on it for the next 6 months | 04:58 |
| bjsnider | i wonder how the issue of the blob's lack of gem/kms would be solved in 6 months | 05:01 |
| bryceh | jcastro, thanks | 05:18 |
| RAOF | Eh. It wouldn't actually be *too* hard to transition to X-on-wayland, and there are some benefits to that. | 05:18 |
| bryceh | RAOF, let's wait for some guidance from mark before we get too far down the pike | 05:19 |
| RAOF | Oh, I'm not suggesting that we'll be *doing* it, but it's hardly 2500 developer-years and 50,000 tester-years worth of work :) | 05:20 |
| * bryceh works on getting CivV installed under wine... | 05:21 | |
| * RAOF found that it Just Worked. | 05:22 | |
| RAOF | Also, care of nvidia's linux drivers being significantly better than their windows drivers, was much more stable. | 05:22 |
| bryceh | heh | 05:24 |
| bryceh | well, I'm trying to get it running on -ati | 05:25 |
| RAOF | fglrx might run it. And possibly r600g with mesa from git and float textures enabled and libtxc-dxtn and a 2.6.39 kernel might, too :) | 05:26 |
| bryceh | funny bug, when I move the Steam dialog window 100 pixels horizontally, it moves 200 pixels | 05:29 |
| soreau | RAOF: nvidia linux drivers more stable than their windows counterparts? How do you figure that? | 06:54 |
| soreau | I was wondering, if radeon gallium is default for natty, what does libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental provide? | 06:55 |
| tjaalton | nouveau_dri.so | 07:00 |
| RAOF | soreau: For my hardware - 7600go - I have a choice of nvidia-current on linux or 170.63 on Windows. | 07:22 |
| tjaalton | hum, so the moonlight package doesn't actually do anything | 07:32 |
| tjaalton | doesn't show up in about:plugins | 07:32 |
| RAOF | Which plugin package? | 07:45 |
| tjaalton | moonlight-plugin-mozilla | 07:47 |
| RAOF | Ah. In archive. | 07:48 |
| tjaalton | needed to install the 4.0-preview to get anything | 07:48 |
| tjaalton | though silverlight4 content doesn't work with it either | 07:49 |
| tjaalton | so, moo | 07:49 |
| cnd | bryceh, found a nasty bug with masked valuators and input coordinate transformation | 16:50 |
| cnd | I've got a patch that I'm testing out right now | 16:51 |
| cnd | it should undergo plenty of testing before being SRU'd though | 16:51 |
| cnd | how do you think we should go about this? | 16:51 |
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| Sarvatt | cnd: can you send it to me so I can add it to edgers at least? | 18:00 |
| cnd | Sarvatt, sure | 18:01 |
| bjsnider | ricotz, i guess the network-manager-gnome package isn't really integrating with gnome-shell like it was supposed to | 19:08 |
| ricotz | bjsnider, if you arent using the nm-0.9 packages then this is normal | 19:11 |
| bjsnider | ricotz, where do i get those packages? | 19:22 |
| ricotz | bjsnider, you can use ppa:ricotz/staging, but without a gnome-control-center with nm0.9 support you will loose some functionality | 19:23 |
| ricotz | the import package is gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 | 19:24 |
| bjsnider | what functionality? | 19:25 |
| ricotz | bjsnider, access to the configuration | 19:26 |
| bjsnider | i don't do anything crazy with it, just dhcp/wired | 19:27 |
| ricotz | but using nm-connection-editor directly should work fine | 19:27 |
| ricotz | in this case you should be fine | 19:27 |
| bjsnider | the only networking options i see in gnome control center now are for adding proxies | 19:28 |
| bjsnider | ricotz, how long before the nm-0.9 package is added to the gnome 3 ppa? | 19:29 |
| ricotz | bjsnider, yes, to have more option g-c-c needs to be compiled with nm09 support which is disabled in the ppa | 19:30 |
| ricotz | not sure might, you probably want to use oneiric which should include it soon | 19:30 |
| bjsnider | ricotz, the plan is to have gnome 3 side by side with unity in oneiric? | 19:31 |
| ricotz | yes | 19:31 |
| bjsnider | i don't understand how the indicators get worked around, since gnome 3 doesn't use them | 19:38 |
| BUGabundo | howdy | 20:29 |
| BUGabundo | I got a bit of mess with my X package | 20:30 |
| BUGabundo | for a while on Natty, and since I just upgraded to 11.10 | 20:30 |
| BUGabundo | I would like to get it clear, before more stuff messes it up | 20:30 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/600936/ | 20:31 |
| BUGabundo | thanks in advance | 20:31 |
| Sarvatt | cnd: thanks a ton, got the patch | 22:30 |
| Sarvatt | ppa.launchpad.net is down though | 22:30 |
| Sarvatt | just tried to upload it, Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused | 22:30 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: can you take a look ? | 22:33 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/600936/ | 22:33 |
| Sarvatt | BUGabundo: dpkg -l? | 22:34 |
| BUGabundo | of what? | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | everything? :P | 22:35 |
| BUGabundo | $ dpkg -l | pastebinit | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/600993/ | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: ^^^^ | 22:36 |
| Sarvatt | yeah somethings out of wack and it could be a lot of things :) | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | it has been for a while | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | after I pushed a X ppa | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | and removed it after | 22:36 |
| BUGabundo | FYI I'm on 11.10 :D | 22:37 |
| Sarvatt | BUGabundo: yeah thats all kinds of messed up, lets see.. | 22:37 |
| Sarvatt | BUGabundo: ok start with | 22:38 |
| Sarvatt | add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu natty main to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xorg-edgers.list | 22:38 |
| Sarvatt | then sudo apt-get update | 22:38 |
| Sarvatt | then sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers | 22:38 |
| Sarvatt | you have some stuff from the xserver 1.10 RC ABI's lingering around, i'm surprised stuff works :) | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | :) | 22:39 |
| Sarvatt | that should fix it though, let me know if it doesn't | 22:39 |
| BUGabundo | okay | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | PPA is slow | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | so gonna take a bit | 22:40 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: how sane does this look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/600998/ | 22:49 |
| Sarvatt | perfect | 22:50 |
| Sarvatt | sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all after too to get it back to normal | 22:51 |
| Sarvatt | libglapi-mesa is specific to xorg-edgers at the moment and not in mesa 7.10 so normal its going to be removed | 22:52 |
| BUGabundo | Sarvatt: as a reminder , im on 11.10 in case it matters :P | 22:53 |
| Sarvatt | yepyep theres nothing X specific there yet | 22:53 |
| Sarvatt | just a copy of 11.04 | 22:53 |
| BUGabundo | okay | 22:54 |
| Sarvatt | i had ya add the natty sources so those packages would get added to the list to be removed, don't have oneiric stuff in xorg-edgers yet because PPAs are screwed | 22:54 |
| Sarvatt | sure wish I could figure out why unity is spazzing out on me the past few days, I can't interact with the panel or use alt shortcuts or change channels in xchat randomly every few hours | 23:01 |
| Sarvatt | close terminator, it works again for a few seconds until it happens again | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | PPA purged successfully using aptitude fallback | 23:02 |
| Sarvatt | BUGabundo: let me know if it works, got to run soon for dinner :) | 23:02 |
| BUGabundo | The following NEW packages will be installed: | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati{a} xserver-xorg-video-mach64{a} xserver-xorg-video-openchrome{a} xserver-xorg-video-qxl{a} xserver-xorg-video-r128{a} xserver-xorg-video-radeon{a} xserver-xorg-video-s3virge{a} xserver-xorg-video-savage{a} xserver-xorg-video-vmware{a} | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | feel free to go | 23:03 |
| BUGabundo | ill ping you tomorrow nite on the result | 23:03 |
| Sarvatt | oh alrighty, I'm on MSN too | 23:03 |
| Sarvatt | oh wait, didn't set up MSN on this new PC, doing it now | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | ahah | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | MSN | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | don't use that | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | all I have its your Xbox XMPP | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | :P | 23:04 |
| Sarvatt | wish I could change that! | 23:04 |
| BUGabundo | mauauaa | 23:05 |
| BUGabundo | why ? | 23:05 |
| Sarvatt | i picked that nick on my 360 account that can't get online anymore, they dont let you change the nick anywhere else apparently | 23:05 |
| Sarvatt | i'm on it via pidgin and it has that name stored server side somewhere :) | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | ah | 23:06 |
| BUGabundo | wait | 23:07 |
| Sarvatt | shows up as Alias: Sarvatt here, not sure why it show the xbox 360 account name for other people | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | Account | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | pick that one | 23:07 |
| BUGabundo | User Info | 23:07 |
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