[00:17] It's always interesting to catch up with the linaro guys. === yofel_ is now known as yofel === solarion is now known as Solarion [02:39] bryceh: you're sorted with your Xorg team session on Thursday, right after lunch so you guys will be nice and happy. [02:45] jcastro: thanks a ton for that [02:47] We should probably have a wayland-specific session, now that I think of it. [02:57] RAOF: remember that there is an -o- in the titles, so I encourage you to do something that makes desktop-wayland-o-matic-something-clever [02:57] Heh. [02:57] The nomenclature is desktop-o, though right? [04:26] RAOF: strange, ubuntu people are talking about shipping wayland as the default in 11.10 [04:26] ;) [04:58] yeah, that's going to happen [04:58] 5000 developers and 100000 testers are working 24/7 on it for the next 6 months [05:01] i wonder how the issue of the blob's lack of gem/kms would be solved in 6 months [05:18] jcastro, thanks [05:18] Eh. It wouldn't actually be *too* hard to transition to X-on-wayland, and there are some benefits to that. [05:19] RAOF, let's wait for some guidance from mark before we get too far down the pike [05:20] Oh, I'm not suggesting that we'll be *doing* it, but it's hardly 2500 developer-years and 50,000 tester-years worth of work :) [05:21] * bryceh works on getting CivV installed under wine... [05:22] * RAOF found that it Just Worked. [05:22] Also, care of nvidia's linux drivers being significantly better than their windows drivers, was much more stable. [05:24] heh [05:25] well, I'm trying to get it running on -ati [05:26] fglrx might run it. And possibly r600g with mesa from git and float textures enabled and libtxc-dxtn and a 2.6.39 kernel might, too :) [05:29] funny bug, when I move the Steam dialog window 100 pixels horizontally, it moves 200 pixels [06:54] RAOF: nvidia linux drivers more stable than their windows counterparts? How do you figure that? [06:55] I was wondering, if radeon gallium is default for natty, what does libgl1-mesa-dri-experimental provide? [07:00] nouveau_dri.so [07:22] soreau: For my hardware - 7600go - I have a choice of nvidia-current on linux or 170.63 on Windows. [07:32] hum, so the moonlight package doesn't actually do anything [07:32] doesn't show up in about:plugins [07:45] Which plugin package? [07:47] moonlight-plugin-mozilla [07:48] Ah. In archive. [07:48] needed to install the 4.0-preview to get anything [07:49] though silverlight4 content doesn't work with it either [07:49] so, moo [16:50] bryceh, found a nasty bug with masked valuators and input coordinate transformation [16:51] I've got a patch that I'm testing out right now [16:51] it should undergo plenty of testing before being SRU'd though [16:51] how do you think we should go about this? === JanC_ is now known as JanC [18:00] cnd: can you send it to me so I can add it to edgers at least? [18:01] Sarvatt, sure [19:08] ricotz, i guess the network-manager-gnome package isn't really integrating with gnome-shell like it was supposed to [19:11] bjsnider, if you arent using the nm-0.9 packages then this is normal [19:22] ricotz, where do i get those packages? [19:23] bjsnider, you can use ppa:ricotz/staging, but without a gnome-control-center with nm0.9 support you will loose some functionality [19:24] the import package is gir1.2-networkmanager-1.0 [19:25] what functionality? [19:26] bjsnider, access to the configuration [19:27] i don't do anything crazy with it, just dhcp/wired [19:27] but using nm-connection-editor directly should work fine [19:27] in this case you should be fine [19:28] the only networking options i see in gnome control center now are for adding proxies [19:29] ricotz, how long before the nm-0.9 package is added to the gnome 3 ppa? [19:30] bjsnider, yes, to have more option g-c-c needs to be compiled with nm09 support which is disabled in the ppa [19:30] not sure might, you probably want to use oneiric which should include it soon [19:31] ricotz, the plan is to have gnome 3 side by side with unity in oneiric? [19:31] yes [19:38] i don't understand how the indicators get worked around, since gnome 3 doesn't use them [20:29] howdy [20:30] I got a bit of mess with my X package [20:30] for a while on Natty, and since I just upgraded to 11.10 [20:30] I would like to get it clear, before more stuff messes it up [20:31] http://paste.ubuntu.com/600936/ [20:31] thanks in advance [22:30] cnd: thanks a ton, got the patch [22:30] ppa.launchpad.net is down though [22:30] just tried to upload it, Connection failed, aborting. Check your network [Errno 111] Connection refused [22:33] Sarvatt: can you take a look ? [22:33] http://paste.ubuntu.com/600936/ [22:34] BUGabundo: dpkg -l? [22:35] of what? [22:35] everything? :P [22:36] $ dpkg -l | pastebinit [22:36] http://paste.ubuntu.com/600993/ [22:36] Sarvatt: ^^^^ [22:36] yeah somethings out of wack and it could be a lot of things :) [22:36] it has been for a while [22:36] after I pushed a X ppa [22:36] and removed it after [22:37] FYI I'm on 11.10 :D [22:37] BUGabundo: yeah thats all kinds of messed up, lets see.. [22:38] BUGabundo: ok start with [22:38] add deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xorg-edgers/ppa/ubuntu natty main to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/xorg-edgers.list [22:38] then sudo apt-get update [22:38] then sudo ppa-purge xorg-edgers [22:39] you have some stuff from the xserver 1.10 RC ABI's lingering around, i'm surprised stuff works :) [22:39] :) [22:39] that should fix it though, let me know if it doesn't [22:40] okay [22:40] PPA is slow [22:40] so gonna take a bit [22:49] Sarvatt: how sane does this look? http://paste.ubuntu.com/600998/ [22:50] perfect [22:51] sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-all after too to get it back to normal [22:52] libglapi-mesa is specific to xorg-edgers at the moment and not in mesa 7.10 so normal its going to be removed [22:53] Sarvatt: as a reminder , im on 11.10 in case it matters :P [22:53] yepyep theres nothing X specific there yet [22:53] just a copy of 11.04 [22:54] okay [22:54] i had ya add the natty sources so those packages would get added to the list to be removed, don't have oneiric stuff in xorg-edgers yet because PPAs are screwed [23:01] sure wish I could figure out why unity is spazzing out on me the past few days, I can't interact with the panel or use alt shortcuts or change channels in xchat randomly every few hours [23:02] close terminator, it works again for a few seconds until it happens again [23:02] PPA purged successfully using aptitude fallback [23:02] BUGabundo: let me know if it works, got to run soon for dinner :) [23:03] The following NEW packages will be installed: [23:03] xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-ati{a} xserver-xorg-video-mach64{a} xserver-xorg-video-openchrome{a} xserver-xorg-video-qxl{a} xserver-xorg-video-r128{a} xserver-xorg-video-radeon{a} xserver-xorg-video-s3virge{a} xserver-xorg-video-savage{a} xserver-xorg-video-vmware{a} [23:03] feel free to go [23:03] ill ping you tomorrow nite on the result [23:03] oh alrighty, I'm on MSN too [23:04] oh wait, didn't set up MSN on this new PC, doing it now [23:04] ahah [23:04] MSN [23:04] don't use that [23:04] all I have its your Xbox XMPP [23:04] :P [23:04] wish I could change that! [23:05] mauauaa [23:05] why ? [23:05] i picked that nick on my 360 account that can't get online anymore, they dont let you change the nick anywhere else apparently [23:06] i'm on it via pidgin and it has that name stored server side somewhere :) [23:06] ah [23:07] wait [23:07] shows up as Alias: Sarvatt here, not sure why it show the xbox 360 account name for other people [23:07] Account [23:07] pick that one [23:07] User Info