[00:00] <Galerien> jiohdi: sit and wait then, ok, thanks !
[00:00] <JWay> usr13, wicd did the trick together with sudo rfkill unblock wifi - thank you so much! must be a bug with natty and iwlagn...
[00:00] <rafii> zookalicious: in my opinion it depend how much someone modificate original system, if more non-stock configuration/modification = greater chance of encounter problem during updating
[00:00] <jiohdi> Galerien: or file bug reports
[00:00] <Galerien> I did on the beta
[00:00] <zetheroo> ohsix: they could have made a right-click menu for the launcher ... couldn't they ...
[00:01] <george_> Good evening. I've tried to upgrade my distro, but there were some troubles. I'm currently stucked, due to the command sudo apt-get dist-upgrade results in the following http://pastie.org/1845252. Could someone help me to solve that? Thanks.
[00:01] <zookalicious> rafi - I would agree with that statement. However I remember my upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 was when I had nothing configured special and that broke hard. Luck of the draw I suspect
[00:01] <zorlem> george_, it looks like there is some unexpected package versions
[00:01] <ohsix> zetheroo: why? so people can see a menu they can't do anything with anyways? you're presuming an educated user, an educated user can already get what they want with the classic session
[00:01] <likki> Hi, my internet/browser on ubuntu 10.04 has been acting weird for the past couple of days. When I click on a link on google search, it would redirect me to google.com. Sometimes clicking a link on a webpage would redirect me to twitter. And sometimes it would give me a google 404 error. I cannot think of anything that might have caused this and this happens randomly.
[00:02] <zorlem> george_: are you sure you didn't mix two ubuntu versions?
[00:02] <TerryBook> ok.  minimizing to the system tray does *not* work in Unity
[00:02] <LAcan> anyone know if kismet appeneds or overwrites log files?
[00:02] <Sylphid> Eathuz, whats the error message displayed?
[00:02] <Captainkrtek> is anyone using natty and has a printer?
[00:02] <Captainkrtek> if so PM me please
[00:02] <nutsfornatty> the system tray is obsolete in unity afaik
[00:03] <ohsix> TerryBook: that would be an application feature
[00:03] <pp7_> nutsfornatty: where does stuff go then? in the unity bar?
[00:03] <ohsix> nutsfornatty: indeed, you need to whitelist things that work for them to even show up
[00:03] <rafii> zookalicious: yep, older versions was more problematic :) hopefully newer version will be better :D
[00:03] <Captainkrtek> who here is using Natty?
[00:04] <Monotoko> ohsix...skype was showing up in my systray fine?
[00:04] <ohsix> who isn't, did you have a question
[00:04] <Captainkrtek> do any of you have a printer set up with natty?
[00:04] <zetheroo> ohsix: why do you keep referring to the "classic session" as a solution? It's another session entirely ... and it's not the future, or what is meant to be the future, of Ubuntu ... so as I see it what needs to be focused on is Unity and NOT the previous stuff ... but we should not be removing features or usability from the previous sessions either ...
[00:04] <ohsix> Monotoko: whitelisted
[00:04] <Captainkrtek> verifying some ubuntu documentation ohsix
[00:04] <TerryBook> if you try to minimize a program (such as xchat, for example) it vanishes completely.  the only way to get it back is to open another instance of the program, and kill the inaccessible process from the system monitor
[00:04] <pp7_> ohsix: how do u whitelist?
[00:04] <ohsix> zetheroo: it's also not the past, they are concurrent
[00:04] <TerryBook> minimize to system tray, I mean
[00:04] <Monotoko> ohsix, I see...as a developer do I need to get things whitelisted in order to make them appear in the system tray now..?
[00:05] <Eathuz> Sylphid, it's the basic: "Boot Error" - "DISK BOOT FAILURE INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER"
[00:05] <nutsfornatty> pp7_: you get a launcher icon for unity. and certain apps are allowed to place icons/info in the top bar (like the system indicators) .. and thats it
[00:05] <Captainkrtek> ohsix, are you on natty?
[00:05] <zetheroo> ohsix: well ... on one level, perhaps ... but in Ubuntu it is obvious that Unity is the future
[00:05] <ohsix> zetheroo: you are making an argument for no change at all, unity would be useless if that were the case, if you do not want something different, use what is familiar
[00:05] <rafii> who in this channel switch back to good old gnome2 classic panels from unity?
[00:05] <fermisan> guys
[00:05] <zetheroo> ohsix: Unity is now!
[00:05] <next8> hi everyone
[00:05] <LordFDisk> wow.... I have downloaded 11.04 havt not yet DNR but really so much backlashing at each other in the room .... I hope things calm down later on tonight.  I remember the good old days where you only got command line at boot
[00:05] <fermisan> how likely is the new ubuntu update to brick my machine
[00:05] <ohsix> zetheroo: don't be stupid, unity is a plugin for compiz
[00:05] <fermisan> its 44 megs
[00:05] <fermisan> what the fcuk
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, you can never "brick" a computer really unless hardware fails
[00:06] <fermisan> i know
[00:06] <Monotoko> fermisan, very slim chance but do back up
[00:06] <nutsfornatty> fermisan: not likely if you are careful about your gfx drivers
[00:06] <RAMPKORV> snopp
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> +1 ^
[00:06] <fermisan> meh its still beta
[00:06] <zetheroo> ohsix: that's ridiculous .... change is not the issue ... as long as it's ADDING to the whole experience and NOT removing
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, I upgraded fine
[00:06] <ohsix> Monotoko: theres an article on the wiki about it, basically if it fits the aesthetic/function standards it will be whitelisted
[00:06] <Monotoko> fermisan, it isn't beta
[00:06] <Sylphid> Captainkrtek, sure you can... bad bios flash
[00:06] <fermisan> Monotoko: it isn't?
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> Sylphid, that as well
[00:06] <fermisan> its finished?
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, yes
[00:06] <Monotoko> fermisan, nope it was released today
[00:06] <ohsix> zetheroo: follow that thread, you keep adding and not removing, what do you get?
[00:06] <fermisan> idk guys
[00:06] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, check the homepage
[00:07] <fermisan> is 11.4 any good
[00:07] <fermisan> i feel like it is a android copy
[00:07] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, it's pretty good, still getting used to it
[00:07] <nutsfornatty> sometimes removal is better for the greater good, i dislike iOS but i admire the "unity" of the overall interface across apps (pun intended)
[00:07] <fermisan> >getting used to
[00:07] <Monotoko> fermisan, it all depends...I personally like unity, others despise it
[00:07] <zetheroo> ohsix: you know what I mean ... adding but not removing key features or usability
[00:07] <skulltip> anyone not have troubles with 11.04, upgrade go smooth as silk?
[00:07] <fermisan> well you convinced me not to use it
[00:07] <ohsix> zetheroo: the useful moves are removing old things you thought you were wed to; then you get a completely new experience and get to decide if it's sufficient
[00:07] <fermisan> is the old interface still avalible
[00:07] <Cryovat> Unity is decent if you're on a single screen with somewhat low resolution
[00:07] <fermisan> i hate the new look
[00:07] <Captainkrtek> fermisan, I come from gnome, unity is a bit different in terms of how im used to using ubuntu
[00:07] <Monotoko> fermisan, yes
[00:08] <ohsix> zetheroo: there is no panel; the panel did all the things you desire, full stop
[00:08] <Captainkrtek> I dont think it handles dual displays well enough yet
[00:08] <fermisan> Monotoko: how do i get it
[00:08] <rafii> skulltip: my upgrade 10.10->11.04 was fine :)
[00:08] <Cryovat> If you have two screens, the top menu and launcher bar becomes terrible
[00:08] <Captainkrtek> nutsfornatty, you have a printer installed in natty?
[00:08] <nutsfornatty> test unity for a week, make sure to use keyboard shortcuts and try to think of the OS in terms of full screen apps.
[00:08] <Monotoko> fermisan, just choose "ubuntu classic" when you log in
[00:08] <Cryovat> Tbh
[00:08] <zetheroo> ohsix: well having a menu which makes me have to make more clicks to get to an app than before is NOT sufficient ...
[00:08] <Cryovat> Gnome 3 works much better than Unity imo
[00:08] <Monotoko> zetheroo...just use the super key
[00:08] <ohsix> Cryovat: not many people use multiple monitors, you should see about communicating how it can be improved
[00:08] <RAMPKORV> The problem I had was that Xinerama doesn't seem to work in Unity
[00:08] <ohsix> zetheroo: then you use what is
[00:08] <TerryBook> what's the "super key"?
[00:08] <Captainkrtek> does anyone have a printer installed in Natty?
[00:09] <api1996> Hey everyone.  I'm running 10.10 on a wubi install.  Has anyone reported success updating a wubi install from 10.10 to 11.04?
[00:09] <Sylphid> Eathuz, is the usb device plugged into a front or rear port?
[00:09] <zetheroo> Monotoko: how does that go?
[00:09] <nutsfornatty> captainkrek: not yet, i have an hp wireless laser printer. going to be troublesome getting that to work
[00:09] <Monotoko> TerryBook, the WIndows key
[00:09] <RAMPKORV> So I'm using Twinview, but full-sceen apps don't work so well
[00:09] <Eathuz> Sylphid, thanks for trying to help. I gave up and spent 10 minutes trying to find an empty CD. Found one and it's booting fine. I guess USB booting is simply out of the question
[00:09] <Cryovat> ohsix: The general problem is that application switching has turned really inconvenient
[00:09] <kzman> hi, how can i upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04?
[00:09] <zetheroo>  ohsix: haha ... and your back to that ;)
[00:09] <Monotoko> zetheroo, it brings up a menu which you can seatch from
[00:09] <Cryovat> And I hate how they copied the mac menu
[00:09] <Cryovat> It's terrible
[00:09] <Captainkrtek> nutsfornatty, verifying the ubuntu-doc for the printing setup
[00:09] <TerryBook> ahh, ok
[00:09] <sebsebseb> kzman: through 10.10, and it will be a bit slow at the moment
[00:09] <ohsix> RAMPKORV: nice, thats tough though, the proprietary drivers only do xinerama; and they fake it, and only because the drivers don't do xrandr 1.2+
[00:09] <Cryovat> WOrks on a netbook, but on a full desktop, it just fails
[00:09] <sebsebseb> it seems
[00:09] <Eathuz> Sylphid, tried both, no improvement. But it doesn't matter anyway. Thanks for taking your time :)
[00:09] <zetheroo> Monotoko: yeah ... that is kinda what I have been talking about ...
[00:09] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | kzman
[00:09] <entity> [dlp]: I have a paste with my error and fstab contents: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600504/
[00:09] <joepa> I'm unable to pin apps to the Launcher in unity, anyone else having this problem?
[00:10] <sebsebseb> kzman: and since 10.04 is LTS it will only show LTS's by default
[00:10] <Monotoko> joepa, how come?
[00:10] <rcmaehl_rant> What's the name of the default theme for 11.04/
[00:10] <sebsebseb> rcmaehl_rant: Ambiance
[00:10] <nutsfornatty> app switching is easy, i use 8 virtual windows and win+s  or win+w
[00:10] <api1996> will updating a wubi install of 10.10 to 11.04 work?
[00:10] <Sylphid> Eathuz, no problem... sorry i couldnt help, though it may be a bios bug you may want to try updating, i cant think of any other reason if it worked fine on another box
[00:10] <RAMPKORV> ohsix, when playing games in Fullscreen, I get a fullscreen across two 16:9 screens, which isn't so pretty
[00:10] <RAMPKORV> :D
[00:10] <Cryovat> It's ok if you're using keyboard
[00:10] <Monotoko> api1996, it should do
[00:10] <joepa> Monotoko: I right click, choose "Keep in Launcher," logout, log back in, and it's gone
[00:10] <Sexygurl2furl> is it normal for the upgrade download to take forever?
[00:10] <RAMPKORV> But I'm not really doing it much, so
[00:10] <Cryovat> But with a mouse, it's a big hassle
[00:10] <ohsix> RAMPKORV: thank nvidia :D
[00:10] <pylix> when does 10.10 stop being supported?
[00:10] <joepa> Monotoko: am I missing something?
[00:10] <Captainkrtek> if anyone has a printer installed in Natty please please PM me
[00:10] <api1996> thanks monotoko
[00:10] <zetheroo> Monotoko: see that is well and all if you know the app your looking for ... although it still involves typing .. more work than before again ... but say you want to look at all your apps in a category ... ... it is not as quick as before
[00:11] <nutsfornatty> cryovat: what OS do you find is easier for app switching?
[00:11] <ohsix> RAMPKORV: you could try the nouveau driver, it does xrandr
[00:11] <Eathuz> Sylphid, I agree. I'll try that later on. It's rather late here, so didn't think that far :)
[00:11] <Cryovat> nutsfornatty: It worked great in Gnome 2 with a panel with a task switcher on each screen
[00:11] <Sylphid> pylix, 2 years of support if i remember correctly
[00:11] <RAMPKORV> ohsix, aye
[00:11] <pylix> okay thanks
[00:11] <Cryovat> Gnome 3 also works very nice out of the box for switching apps on multiple screens
[00:11] <ohsix> zetheroo: not as quick for your trained behaviour, someone with different experience will have different circumstance
[00:11] <RAMPKORV> I hope it does Geforce 210 well
[00:12] <Monotoko> joepa...that should work...is it a new install or did you update? and zetheroo, I like to use my mouse as little as possible, find it slows me down
[00:12] <fermisan> update is still slow as fuck
[00:12] <joepa> Monotoko: update
[00:12] <joepa> Monotoko: from 10.10
 is it normal for the upgrade download to take forever?
[00:12] <Cryovat> Unity  feels like it's designed without taking high resolutions or multiple screens into account at all
[00:12] <zetheroo> Monotoko: hectic ;)
[00:12] <Blue1> fermisan: d/l the iso now, what can I expect?
[00:12] <rafii> unity not improve workflow, it's only eye-candy...
[00:12] <nutsfornatty> cryovat: i see your point. perhaps a few indicators for windows and window switching that can be customized would improve the mouse workflow
[00:12] <Monotoko> joepa, sounds like a permissions issue to me...not quite sure which file it will be though
[00:12] <Sexygurl2furl> can somebody pls help me?????
[00:12] <yofel> pylix: nope, 12 months from now https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:12] <Cryovat> The solution is pretty easy raelly
[00:12] <Cryovat> *really
[00:12] <Monotoko> joepa, try to make a new account and see if it does the same
[00:12] <Cryovat> One launcher per screen
[00:12] <zetheroo> ohsix: true, hence why not accommodate both behaviours!?
[00:13] <ohsix> Cryovat: thats not far from the truth; you know netbook sales swamp notebook sales right? and notebooks beat desktop sales
[00:13] <joepa> Monotoko: good idea
[00:13] <Cryovat> But the Unity people seem to have a religious issue with that thought
[00:13] <Eathuz> !helpme | Sexygurl2furl
[00:13] <Cryovat> ohsix: I know, but
[00:13] <Soothsayer> Can two computers on the same network have the _same_ mac address ?
[00:13] <Sexygurl2furl> !repeat
[00:13] <progre55> hi guys. just upgraded to natty, but cannot install the flashplugin. getting this "flashplugin-installer depends on nspluginwrapper (>= 0.9.91.4-2ubuntu1); however: Package nspluginwrapper is not configured yet." any suggestions please?
[00:13] <alien-007> hi guys,,in booting 10.4 LTS on Mac Ibook G4,,but installer stops in the keyboard option,,,i try many times and keep doing the same,,what can i do ?
[00:13] <Sexygurl2furl> !attitude
[00:13] <pp7_> Soothsayer: no
[00:13] <Cryovat> If you're designing a desktop environment for general use across all form factors, then you need to make it scalable
[00:13] <ohsix> zetheroo: you are one person, introduce a third with different experience from the first, accomodate all 3?
[00:13] <Sylphid> pylix, sorry was wrong 1.5 years
[00:13] <TerryBook> Soothsayer:  no.  MAC address is hardcoded into the network card
[00:13] <pp7_> Soothsayer: not unless u tell them to
[00:13] <zetheroo> ohsix: anyhow ... it's going to be ok ... just make me change my computing habits ... yet again :P
[00:13] <ohsix> zetheroo: take that to the possible number of all possible linuxusers
[00:14] <Cryovat> The Unity team seem like they just ignored scaling at all, and then at the end of the design process realized that someone might be running two screens
[00:14] <Monotoko> zetheroo, you should be used to it within a few days :P
[00:14] <xinel> okies the problem is with encryption with the alternative 64bit 11.04 install, works fine with raid and no encrypted drives :(
[00:14] <reeceb> anybody have an idea how to get around no DHCPOFFERS received?
[00:14] <Soothsayer> TerryBook, pp7_ : No I'm going to be setting the mac address manually (through some or other methods online).
[00:14] <kzman> to upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04, do i have to upgrade to 10.10 at first?
[00:14] <Omen_20> Anyone using Banshee 2.0?
[00:14] <Soothsayer> My ISP's login client is locked to a mac address!
[00:14] <nutsfornatty> cryovat: im sure someone will expand upon the basic unity configuration options. till then, we still have classic ubuntu as an option
[00:14] <ohsix> zetheroo: thats just to say, the important thing is you are advocating your preference, which is fine but not objective, and as stated already would lead to no change
[00:14] <Cryovat> Yeah
[00:15] <zetheroo> ohsix: look mate, there is nothing new or crazy about making your bleeding main menu customisable ... nothing new about that at all ... it's nothing complex either ... so it should be in here ... period
[00:15] <Cryovat> I'm sticking to Gnome 2
[00:15] <pp7_> Soothsayer: not sure how that will work, how will each machine know what packets are designated for it?
[00:15] <Cryovat> It just works better for my needs
[00:15] <crazed]psyc> hi, excuse me...
[00:15] <lucas> could someone propose which filesystem is best to use for casper-rw patition on a slow usb-stick?
[00:15] <TerryBook> Soothsayer:  sounds like your ISP has problems and you need to complain to them.  but MAC addresses need to be unique even moreso than IP addresses
[00:15] <[dlp]> entity: Ubuntu 11.04 has probably enumerated the drives differently for some reason... so /dev/sda1 could become /deb/sdb1
[00:15] <[dlp]> Use UUID's in fstab instead
[00:15] <Soothsayer> hmm...
[00:15] <crazed]psyc> is ath9k a proprietary driver?
[00:15] <ohsix> zetheroo: it's not about new, or being complex
[00:15] <Soothsayer> ye, true.
[00:15] <Cryovat> I just wish the Gnome team wouldn't have been so stubborn in regards to app indicators in Gnome 3
[00:15] <ohsix> zetheroo: it's about nobody freshly introduced to it, needing to do it at all
[00:15] <Cryovat> I'd have been sold on Gnome 3 with appindicators
[00:15] <entity> [dlp]: how do I do that? I dont have write access to anythng, even as root
[00:15] <Monotoko> crazed]psyc, I believe so
[00:16] <th0r> Soothsayer: you can set both computers to use the same mac, so long as only one is online at a time
[00:16] <crazed]psyc> Is there a FOSS replacement for ath9k?
[00:16] <nutsfornatty> cryovat: i like the indicator change. far too many apps put needless icons in the task bars
[00:16] <Cryovat> Yeah
[00:16] <Monotoko> entity, reboot in single-user mode
[00:16] <Cryovat> It's about time someone tackled it
[00:16] <entity> Monotoko: single-user mode?
[00:16] <bastidrazor> Soothsayer: then get a router that allows you to set its mac address
[00:16] <ohsix> i think a whitelist would have been a good start
[00:16] <zetheroo> ohsix: that's rubbish ... your saying that someone new to Ubuntu who uses Unity as their first desktop is not going to want to customise anything? rubbish
[00:16] <Monotoko> entity, hold on I have a command that will let you have write access again
[00:16] <Cryovat> Just a shame the Gnome team suffers from not-invented-here syndrome
[00:17] <nastjuid> crazed]psyc: check out madwifi
[00:17] <ohsix> zetheroo: you forget your a-priori information you carry from gnome
[00:17] <Soothsayer> bastidrazor: I do have that in place. But this ISP's login client won't be able to fetch that mac address anyway!
[00:17] <entity> Monotoko: this is my problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600504/
[00:17] <nastjuid> crazed]psyc: http://madwifi-project.org
[00:17] <ohsix> zetheroo: they will probably not even think about it
[00:17] <alien-007>  hi guys,,in booting 10.4 LTS on Mac Ibook G4,,but installer stops in the keyboard option,,,i try many times and keep doing the same,,what can i do ?
[00:17] <fermisan> why is shuttleworth such a faggot
[00:17] <[dlp]> entity: When you get the boot menu.
[00:17] <nutsfornatty> on the bright side, we are only going to gain customization options for unity from here forward
[00:17] <zetheroo> ohsix: I work with new Ubuntu users all the time ... I know what they go for right away ... they want to customise!!!
[00:17] <mnoyce> ninjai: You can also open multiple windows by clicking with the middle mouse button on the launcher icon.
[00:18] <ohsix> zetheroo: my mom uses classic but she doesn't know or care that she can change things
[00:18] <lucas> could someone propose which filesystem is best to use for casper-rw partition on a slow usb-stick?
[00:18] <[dlp]> entity: Remount read-write.
[00:18] <entity> Monotoko: the stuff in the paste i sent you occur directly after selecting the top ubuntu entry in the boot menu.
[00:18] <entity> [dlp]: I thought the problem is that / will not mount at all...
[00:18] <Chubcorp> I want to backup my system, how do I tell it to place the backup.tgz file on an external HDD? I'm newish.
[00:18] <commodore64th> My launcher and taskbar are missing, I can't use keyboard shortcuts liek alt-tab, and I can't resize or move any windows. Also, windows don't have borders... What do I do?
[00:18] <Monotoko> entity, do you only have one hard drive?
[00:18] <ohsix> zetheroo: you still have a special case; if you weren't arguing for your preference already it might even be notable
[00:19] <commodore64th> This is Ubuntu 11.04 beta 2
[00:19] <entity> Monotoko: yes.
[00:19] <zetheroo> ohsix: well your mom is one person ...and she is your mom ... I am talking about the new generation of computer-savvy people ... which far outnumber the rest
[00:19] <likki> Hi, my internet/browser on ubuntu 10.04 has been acting weird for the past couple of days. When I click on a link on google search, it would redirect me to google.com. Sometimes clicking a link on a webpage would redirect me to twitter. And sometimes it would give me a google 404 error. I cannot think of anything that might have caused this and this happens randomly. Any help?
[00:19] <ohsix> zetheroo: people aren't computer saavy, they're merely more familiar with some concepts
[00:19] <delu> Hi, I just switched to Natty today and I've noticed that when I switch between viewports/workspaces in Classic, my docks and my panels all move instead of just my windows, like they did in Maverick. How can I change this?
[00:19] <nutsfornatty> really computer savvy people dont want to waste time on customization. they want it to just work imo.
[00:19] <zetheroo> ohsix:  I am arguing for what I can see others are going to want ... based on having been putting newbies to Linux for over 5 years ...
[00:19] <Monotoko> entity, run fdisk -l
[00:20] <Monotoko> on the manual recovery
[00:20] <Monotoko> see what it says
[00:20] <ohsix> zetheroo: you find that the concepts change and you find some saavishy confused people
[00:20] <zetheroo> ohsix: the new generation are more computer savvy than my mom ... that is what I was referring to
[00:20] <ohsix> zetheroo: you are arguing for you, you want it,  you are saying you see other people want it to give you some sort of credit for having asked for it
[00:20] <Chubcorp> commodore64th, I had the same problem you have to run the window manager in a terminal, I just can't remember the name of it right now.
[00:21] <commodore64th> tartar sauce.
[00:21] <zetheroo> ohsix: yes, and some concepts don't change ... like the basic ones :P
[00:21] <Monotoko> entity,  if you need to edit the fstab to be correct, all you need to do is boot from liveCD and edit it
[00:21] <ohsix> zetheroo: like i said, "computer saavy" is an empty statement
[00:21] <leagris> where can I get the correct french/french 105k euro layout. All layouts available are false
[00:21] <TerryBook> ok.  this is ticking me off.  is there a way to revert to a previous version without completely reinstalling?
[00:21] <commodore64th> What happened is I was trying to change some settings in compiz-fonfig, then it disappeared all of a sudden.
[00:21] <Monotoko> TerryBook, what's pissing you off?
[00:21] <commodore64th> rebooting doesn't help.
[00:21] <Monotoko> the UI?
[00:21] <commodore64th> maybe I disabled it by accident?
[00:21] <ohsix> zetheroo: people aren't car saavy, they can just understand pedals and a wheel after some instruction,  you change the pedals or the wheel, they'll want what they know back
[00:22] <zetheroo> ohsix: well I see your speaking from your vast experience of having put your mom onto Linux ...so who am I to question THAT!? :D
[00:22] <nutsfornatty> switch to classic ubuntu instructions: go to login screen -> look at bottom panel -> change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" -> login -> done
[00:22] <TerryBook> Monotoko:  no, I'm in gnome.  certain programs I use on a daily basis are now crashing every time I switch window focus
[00:22] <Monotoko> TerryBook, did you upgrade or reinstall?
[00:22] <TerryBook> upgrade
[00:22] <talntid> Commander1024: metacity --replace &
[00:22] <likki> Hi, my firefox browser on ubuntu 10.04 has been acting weird for the past couple of days. When I click on a link on google search, it would redirect me to google.com. Sometimes clicking a link on a webpage would redirect me to twitter. And sometimes it would give me a google 404 error. I cannot think of anything that might have caused this and this happens randomly. Any help?
[00:23] <ohsix> zetheroo: vast experience of people inflatingt themselves into "people" and insisting their not arguing poorly for their own ends, but the "peoples", you are deluding yourself
[00:23] <Monotoko> TerryBook, that could be the issue...first thing I'd do is create a new account
[00:23] <Chubcorp> commodore64th, it's called metacity run that in a terminal, and it should all reappear
[00:23] <commodore64th> Chubcorp, thanks; I'll try that.
[00:23] <[dlp]> entity: If your root partition wasn't mounted you wouldn't be able to read /etc/fstab
[00:23] <leagris> fucking wrecked french keyboard layout can not get the sharp symbol anymore
[00:23] <chotaz> Quick question, I was upgrading from Maverick to Narry, and my city went throught a complete blackout, now whenever I try to boot my ubuntu box it says the Hard drive is not ready or no present, I can keep waiting or Press S to skip mount and M to manual recovery, what should I do.
[00:23] <chotaz> Narry*
[00:23] <xinel> so anybody else trying encrypting all their drives with 11.04?
[00:23] <talntid> Chubcorp, lol. I beat you to it, but he gave you the credit. drats! :P
[00:23] <[dlp]> Or anything else, for that matter.
[00:23] <zetheroo> ohsix: yep ... as are you ;)
[00:23] <kbrosnan> likki: middle clicking on links?
[00:23] <Chubcorp> talntid, haha, winner!
[00:24] <talntid> Ah, I use the wrong nick, to tell him. darn autocomplete let me down! ahh!!!
[00:24] <TerryBook> Monotoko:  the program I'm having trouble with isn't installed system-wide, it's in my home directory
[00:24] <likki> kbrosnan: middle clicking?
[00:24] <Slimcea_boy> Why is #ubuntu+1 invite-only, and may I please be invited? I would like to ask some questions about the next release.
[00:24] <zetheroo> ohsix: your speaking for change without thinking of basic common sense ... like customisation ... that is hardly change for the better!
[00:24] <ohsix> zetheroo: i'm me, and my persona experience with my mother,i'm not oresuming to speak for untold numbers of people that happen to agree with what i'm trying to have done
[00:24] <nutsfornatty> likki: install chrome or chromium from the software center and see if your url clicks work properly there
[00:24] <Monotoko> Slimcea_boy, you'll need to be patient...they'll reopen in a week or two
[00:24] <kbrosnan> likki: using the middle mouse button
[00:24] <ohsix> zetheroo: common sense is a red herring, often used as a cudgel; like "you don't think like me"
[00:25] <Eathuz> I want to install Ubuntu on a partition of a harddrive I already "prepared" or rather made it already. Where should I install the bootloader? Should this be on the W7 partition?
[00:25] <nutsfornatty> likki: if they do, something screwed up your firefox install.. or like the others mentioned.. you are middle clicking
[00:25] <leagris> where is the sharp symbol on the new fr layout?
[00:25] <likki> kbrosnan: my links works some times on google chrome when it doesn't on firefox
[00:25] <Chubcorp> commodore64th, did it work?
[00:25] <likki> kbrosnan: is that the scroll wheel?
[00:25] <commodore64th> Chubcorp, yeah, but I still need my launcher...
[00:25] <kbrosnan> likki: yes
[00:25] <commodore64th> and taskbar
[00:25] <nutsfornatty> likki: make sure you are not shifting focus between multiple firefox tabs by accident
[00:25] <leagris> !french
[00:25] <ohsix> zetheroo: nobody has said it was change for the better, and without time nobody will know, it is merely different
[00:25] <Chubcorp> commodore64th, on the task bar?
[00:25] <zetheroo> ohsix: ok, well I gtg ... work and that ... good luck with all that ;)
[00:26] <commodore64th> my taskbar is missing and my launcher is missing
[00:26] <ohsix> zetheroo: i'm fine thanks
[00:26] <likki> kbrosnan: how can I fix it on firefox?
[00:26] <chotaz> Good night everyone. Quick question, I was upgrading from Maverick to Natty, and my city went throught a complete blackout, now whenever I try to boot my ubuntu box it says the Hard drive is not ready or no present, I can keep waiting or Press S to skip mount and M to manual recovery, what should I do.
[00:26] <george_> Good evening. I've tried to upgrade my distro, but there were some troubles. I'm currently stucked, due to the command sudo apt-get dist-upgrade results in the following http://pastie.org/1845252. Could someone help me to solve that? Thanks. Someone told me to run apt-get --ignore-hold dist-upgrade. Is that safe?
[00:26] <zetheroo> ohsix: yeah ... sure
[00:26] <Chubcorp> commodore64th, just add new panel and add everything, that's all I can think of to do.
[00:26] <skulltip> as long as the gui doesn't cramp my FPS-game playing ways, i'll be fine with 11.04
[00:26] <talntid> commodore64th: gconftool-2 -shutdown | gconftool -recursive-unset /apps/panel | rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel | pkill gnome-panel
[00:27] <kbrosnan> likki: first I need to know if you are using the scroll button to click on links, else my suggestion is meaningless
[00:27] <ohsix> even post gnome-shell i'll be using the panels & nautilus, so i really couldn't care less
[00:27] <ohsix> unfortunately the panel or something like it is make or break for me
[00:27] <Chubcorp> I want to backup my system, how do I tell it to place the backup.tgz file on an external HDD? I'm newish.
[00:28] <Eathuz> When installing Ubuntu, which partition type should I use? And since I'm dual booting it with W7, should I install the boot loader on the same drive as the W7 boot loader?
[00:28] <likki> kbrosnan: I'm not using my scroll button to click on links
[00:28] <nutsfornatty> likki: the pages you are accessing when you click on urls, are they pages you have already seen? or are they new pages? (wondering if you are toggling your history urls by accident )
[00:28] <ohsix> Chubcorp: how do you tell what? you should try deja-dup, it's nice; and will start missed backups when you plug the backup volume back in
[00:28] <talntid> Chubcorp, mount the external hard drive. if it's already mounted, find out where by typing "mount" - then, just specify it's mount location when backing up.
[00:28] <ohsix> talntid: wat
[00:28] <triunity> Question, 11.04 is out, since it has a new gui, should i reformate or just upgrade?
[00:29] <todd_dsm> how would you use dpkg to show where the contents of a package were installed? I'm trying to find out what all get's installed with ldap-utils, and where.
[00:29] <likki> nutsfornatty: sometimes they are pages that i have already visited.
[00:29] <talntid> commodore64th, did that work?
[00:29] <commodore64th> talntid, it didn
[00:29] <commodore64th> t
[00:29] <bastidrazor> todd_dsm: dpkg -L packagename
[00:29] <talntid> what did it do/not do?
[00:29] <entity> [dlp]: Monotoko http://paste.ubuntu.com/600512/
[00:29] <nutsfornatty> deja dup is awesome
[00:29] <[dlp]> entity: Use blkid to find UUID.
[00:29] <ohsix> triunity: upgrades work, unity is like .001% of all of the gnome situation on natty; just use the classic session if you wish
[00:29] <commodore64th> I get an error: unknown option -recorsive-unset
[00:29] <talntid> recursive, not recorsive
[00:30] <commodore64th> whoops
[00:30] <entity> ok got the UUID of the partitions
[00:30] <acicula> Eathuz: eh the type should be Linux, the bootloader files go on the linux partition, but you can install the bootloader to the first disk
[00:30] <triunity> Ok... thanks for the heads up ohsix
[00:30] <commodore64th> actually, I did spell it right in the terminal
[00:30] <todd_dsm> bastidrazor: cool, that did it, thanks man.
[00:30] <Chubcorp> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 I went here and when it says to go to the root of the filesystem, as in that's where it's going to put the backup, I don't want the backup there. It says cd/
[00:30] <bastidrazor> todd_dsm: you're welcome.
[00:30] <ohsix> likki: i'd check what extensions you're using, anything outside of firefox isn't going to do that
[00:30] <acicula> !dualboot| Eathuz look here as well
[00:30] <nutsfornatty> likki: sometimes? hum. make sure ask you click a url you do not see the url bar (where you enter the txt url like http... ) change or flash
[00:30] <ohsix> triunity: if you have compiz settings you want to migrate you will probably have to do it manually
[00:31] <entity> [dlp]: okay so I got the UUID for the partitions. What do I do with that?
[00:31] <commodore64th> BTW, talntid, I'm using Ubuntu 11.04
[00:31] <ohsix> triunity: since it's been updated to .9, and theres a migration thing but it misses about everything
[00:31] <talntid> try gconftool-2
[00:31] <nutsfornatty> likki: also make sure you are not accidentally hitting your keyboard keys as you mouse click
[00:31] <triunity> I have a netbook, pretty normal setup (though i use desktop edition because unity sucks in 10.10)
[00:31] <commodore64th> have to reboot...
[00:31] <[dlp]> entity: Replace /dev/sda2 with UUID=... in /etc/fstab
[00:32] <[dlp]> entity: Make sure it's the right partition!
[00:32] <commodore64th> does gconftool-2 run in GUI mode?
[00:32] <hypetech> is there a way to do full disc encryption with natty desktop?  I saw the option in server install, but not desktop
[00:32] <Chubcorp> ohsix, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=35087 I went here and when it says to go to the root of the filesystem, as in that's where it's going to put the backup, I don't want the backup there. It says cd/
[00:32] <ohsix> triunity: well they ditched mutter & made it a compiz plugin so it works a lot differently
[00:32] <ohsix> hypetech: ugh
[00:32] <likki> nutsfornatty: its not doing it now since it is usually random.. Sometimes it would give me a google 404 error. This problem would happen on google chrome also if i paste the link there.
[00:32] <hypetech> ohsix: ?
[00:32] <entity> delete "/dev/sda2"? and replace with "UUID=<big string
[00:32] <entity> F. accidently hit enter
[00:32] <acicula> hypetech: yes but you have to use the alternative installer
[00:33] <ohsix> Chubcorp: just use deja-dup; don't mess with stuff in the terminal
[00:33] <hypetech> acicula: ah, ty
[00:33] <acicula> hypetech: you can only setup encrypted home directories via the gui installer
[00:33] <[dlp]> entity: And could you paste /proc/mounts as well?
[00:33] <strigoi66> So I have a problem: I have a lucid server setup and serving html, I also am serving videos. The problem (can play videos in linux, but not windows.) The error is (missing plugin) I have searched all over, but could not find a plugin to play the videos in windows. Please point me in the right direction. I am a newb to ubuntu server.
[00:34] <entity> [dlp]: sure. could you paste what they SHOULD look like afterward?
[00:34] <ohsix> hypetech: have you assured physical security and taken into account all the other things you need to do to make encrypting everything even remotely worthwhile?
[00:34] <skulltip> in the upgrade, will my wireless networking/WPA password need to be reentered?
[00:34] <acicula> hypetech: theres a few pages about it on the ubuntu i think, its not too hard to setup but can be a bit of a hassle
[00:34] <[dlp]> entity: Yeah.
[00:34] <acicula> skulltip: nope
[00:34] <hypetech> ohsix: it's for my laptop
[00:34] <xinel> hypetech, haven't been able to get full disk encryption working with natty
[00:34] <ohsix> hypetech: encrypting everything is a bad idea, you ensure all the things stored in there are as either equally in need of securing, or equally worthless
[00:35] <xinel> hangs after grub
[00:35] <bashelina> is 15 gb enough to partition /   ??
[00:35] <ohsix> hypetech: if you just want to be cool and tell people stuff is encrypted i'd seriously advise against it
[00:35] <acicula> bashelina: should be
[00:35] <chotaz> Good night everyone. Quick question, I was upgrading from Maverick to Natty, and my city went throught a complete blackout, now whenever I try to boot my ubuntu box it says the Hard drive is not ready or no present, I can keep waiting or Press S to skip mount and M to manual recovery, what should I do.
[00:36] <ohsix> hypetech: segregate what is actually important to secure & assure its phsyical security
[00:36] <xinel> imo theres nothing wrong with total hdd encryption at all
[00:36] <tase> How do I take control of my home folder on an ubuntu install while on live cd ? I want to back it up to an archive
[00:36] <ohsix> xinel: there is lots wrong with it
[00:36] <TerryBook> oh great.  it doesn't crash in unity....but every time I switch window focus away from it in gnome it crashes
[00:36] <l1nfr4nk7> hey whats up, how does everyone enjoy 11.04?
[00:37] <skulltip> tase - try backintime, it's in repos
[00:37] <bashelina> I only got 60 gb total, so i dedicated 15 gb for / ...  is it sufficient ?
[00:37] <ohsix> xinel: like i said, you make everything asuseless or everything needing the same security measures, there is no halfway, and there is a lot that can happen that renders the encryption moot
[00:37] <hypetech> ohsix: that doesn't really help if I delete sensitive information without encrypting it
[00:37] <swatto> Whats the best way to upgrade to the latest version of ubuntu please? I tried but it says cannot get release notes?
[00:37] <yofel> bashelina: that's plenty
[00:37] <delu> anyone know how to lock down docks/panels when switching between viewports/workspaces in natty? In Maverick, just my windows moved
[00:37] <skulltip> lnfr4nk7 - think it's a love/hate relationship
[00:38] <tase> skulltip: uh isn't there a way to take ownership of the folder, I dont want to backup my ubuntu install, just this one folder; ive tried chmod and chown, and it doesn't work out
[00:38] <ohsix> xinel: an enitely encrypted drive is no better than an entirely unencrypted drive most of the time
[00:38] <xinel> ohsix, how do you figure that?
[00:38] <TerryBook> how do I get to growl in unity?
[00:38] <stefg> bashelina: even 10G will be enough
[00:38] <Loshki> bashelina: 15GB should be plenty. I don't recall seeing a / partition ever go over 10GB...
[00:38] <hypetech> in the case of a powered off laptop, full disc encryption is essentially fullproof in case of theft, which is my main concern
[00:38] <ohsix> hypetech: that doesn't help either, you had sensitive information on plain storage; that is already a mistake
[00:38] <skulltip> sudo chown -R folder name.name  ?
[00:38] <kyle__> hi all - i am after some help?
[00:38] <[dlp]> xinel: Don't get him started :D
[00:38] <bashelina> stefg, Loshki  ok thx
[00:39] <l1nfr4nk7> skulltip lol yeah i agree ... i rather stick with 10.10 ... been playing with Gnome 3 a bit too
[00:39] <commodore64th> does anyone know how to start the unity panel service?
[00:39] <tripelb> Not a sexy problem: When I am on filesystem A I cant copy files from filesystem B (no permissions). When I boot into filesystem B I cant even SEE filesystem A. 10.04
[00:39] <ohsix> hypetech: a token on your person with your encrypted information is 100% no fault in case of theft and _more_
[00:39] <nutsfornatty> of you are ok with the performance hit, full encryption is ok
[00:39] <xinel> [dlp], fair enough, been awake for 30 hours myself :P
[00:39] <acicula> hypetech: set a decent password and enable the encrypted home option, that should keep most people out
[00:39] <ohsix> hypetech: `if they have access to  you and your token themn they have access to the ecrypted volumes
[00:39] <chotaz> Good night everyone. Quick question, I was upgrading from Maverick to Natty, and my city went throught a complete blackout, now whenever I try to boot my ubuntu box it says the Hard drive is not ready or no present, I can keep waiting or Press S to skip mount and M to manual recovery, what should I do??
[00:39] <nutsfornatty> you would be better suited using truecrypt to encrypt only what you absolutely must protect imo
[00:39] <chilipep4> hi. after i log in to my system, i get only the desktop background picture, and i can move the mouse, but the buttons don't do anything
[00:39] <kyle__> how do you get help here?
[00:40] <sebsebseb> chilipep4: ok with Unity in 11.04?
[00:40] <chilipep4> how to deal with this? it was working fine for quite a while up until now
[00:40] <nutsfornatty> kyle: just ask :-)
[00:40] <acicula> kyle__: by just asking your question
[00:40] <Logan_> !ask | kyle__
[00:40] <bashelina> kyle__,  just ask a quiestion..
[00:40] <ohsix> acicula: how do you measure "most people"? you know most thefts are from people  you already know, and they might even know your password already
[00:40] <[dlp]> chotaz: You're in an awkward position.
[00:40] <NUSHOR> oh wow just a flood bot in here?
[00:40] <likki> How come I cannot upgrade to 10.10 from 10.04. In my update manager it does not show any updates after I clicked on "check".
[00:40] <acicula> ohsix:if you would like to discuss security with me do it in offtopic or ##security, not here
[00:40] <chotaz> [dlp]: how awkward is awkward?
[00:40] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: oh, actually, this is with either lucid or maverick
[00:40] <problemsnm> hi
[00:40] <sebsebseb> likki: since 10.04 only shows other LTS's by default, but yeah there isn't one
[00:40] <[dlp]> chotaz: Depends when the power failed
[00:40] <kyle__> ok, i think this is an old one but i am trying to run 11.04 from usb, i have got further than in the past - but it still wont work!
[00:41] <sebsebseb> likki: you can change the setting so it will show 10.10 as well, then go through that to 11.04
[00:41] <NUSHOR> acicula: here is a security risk for you:
[00:41] <NUSHOR> ?DCC SEND "hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" 0 0 0
[00:41] <problemsnm> I'm trying to recompile network-manager, how can I do so?
[00:41] <delu> oh, does anyone know how to disable the floating scrollbars in 11.04?
[00:41] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[00:41] <ohsix> acicula: i'd ask that you keep your baseless statements there as well. then
[00:41] <TerryBook> wth?
[00:41] <sebsebseb> chilipep4: clean install or?
[00:41] <Mahjongg> hello, I'd like to record a pronounciation from google translate. how can I record it?
[00:41] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: anyways, the only way i can get around it is to change the session to "xterm" instead of gnome.
[00:41] <likki> sebsebseb: how do I change the setting to show 10.10?
[00:41] <ohsix> hypetech: decide what is important, separate it, secure it
[00:42] <nutsfornatty> kyle__: usb booting was bugged during the betas. not sure if it has been fixed, wabi was also bugged for windows
[00:42] <Paolo_CT> HI there, the link to download the 11.04 Netbook version (Torrent) is broken
[00:42] <Paolo_CT> This is the link: http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent
[00:42] <chotaz> [dlp]:  I don't really know, I was at the mall, and I only knew of the blackout because the entire more went out of light too. when I left home it had just started downloading the 1615 files it needed.
[00:42] <sebsebseb> ah yes thsi channel and the attacks!
[00:42] <mala85> What is the best way to install Gnome3/Gnome-Shell on 11.04? Is it to start with Kubuntu so as not to get into conflicts with Gnome2/Unity?
[00:42] <acicula> ohsix: please dont harass volunteers, recommending encrypted home and setting a good password is a perfectly acceptable recommendation
[00:42] <hypetech> ohsix: we'll have to agree to disagree in this particular instance, but I do appreciate your input :)
[00:42] <ohsix> hypetech: much like a gun without a lock won't be protected by your front door if it can just be kicked in
[00:42] <KNUBBIG> mala85: the PPA for gnome shell crashes Unity, true, so Kubuntu could be nice
[00:42] <sebsebseb> likki: look around for  the setting I guess
[00:42] <TerryBook> how do I access growl?
[00:42] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | likki
[00:42] <[dlp]> chotaz: You could probably recover the filesystem but the software will likely be in an inconsistent state.
[00:42] <sebsebseb> likki: also trying to upgrade to 10.10 and such now would be slow
[00:42] <sebsebseb> probably
[00:42] <cdavis> jiohdi: it says google chrome 32 bit does not match my amd64 system and won't install
[00:42] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: clean install -- just a couple of days ago.
[00:43] <kyle__> well at least i got it to boot from USB but seemed to hang on purple screen, beta 2 worked fine, updated itself and booted me into unity, cannot do it with fnal version
[00:43] <chotaz> [dlp]:  fresh install is my best way out?
[00:43] <sebsebseb> chilipep4: hmm maybe give 11.04 a try, or some other distro :D
[00:43] <happyface> blinking cursor after grub on new 11.04 (installed with alternative usb), what can I do?
[00:43] <[dlp]> chotaz: I would, probably.
[00:43] <mala85> KNUBBIG: Thank you.
[00:43] <[dlp]> chotaz: Use a liveCD to do a backup first (if you haven't already).
[00:43] <Mahjongg> how can I record some audio that is already playing on my system?
[00:44] <sebsebseb> mala85: ok you awnt Gnome Shell :)
[00:44] <commodore64th> talntid, gconftool-2 didn't work...
[00:44] <ohsix> acicula: it is not, unless you tell people they can lose access to their information if it is damaged or they forget their passphrase as well; or that i t essentially can't be changed without recreating the volume, there is a _lot_ with suggesting people ust encrypt everything with no regard to why, it is not free and often doesn't get them what they actually want either
[00:44] <sebsebseb> want
[00:44] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: oh. i've used ubuntu -- installed off of the very same disk -- without problems for about half a year now.
[00:44] <sebsebseb> mala85: you don't quite get the proper expereince with the Gnome 3 ppa, but if it works for you, should be good enough for now I guess
[00:44] <chotaz> [dlp]:  that really sucks, I was halfway through my final project.. oh wait, I just started using ubuntu as my main OS, never remember about live CD's [/freakoutmode]
[00:44] <happyface> blinking cursor after grub on new 11.04 (installed with alternative usb), what can I do?
[00:44] <acicula> ohsix: when people enable the encrypted home they get a big warning about just that and how to recover their data in case of problems
[00:45] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: i simply tried reinstalling -- worked fine until about the 4-th reboot, and now the "gnome" sessions won't work
[00:45] <KNUBBIG> sebsebseb: but using the PPA will crash Unity, so one should be careful with it
[00:45] <ohsix> acicula: does it tell them about changing their authentication information?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> mala85: ,but you  will probably have issues trying to load up Unity if you install it, like KNUBBIG is pointing out
[00:45] <mala85> sebsebseb: Hm. Maybe I will wait a few days - 'till the dust settles :)
[00:45] <chotaz> [dlp]:  just one side question, what's the right swap size?
[00:45] <sebsebseb> !gnome3 | mala85
[00:45] <mmjunaid> hi all
[00:46] <[dlp]> chotaz: There's no simple answer to that.
[00:46] <KNUBBIG> will break is more correct x)
[00:46] <ohsix> acicula: password rotation is going to do a lot more good with casual intrusions than an encrypted volume will, the volume will be mounted the entire lifetime of the machine being on, you can't unmount it
[00:46] <sebsebseb> mala85: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3
[00:46] <sebsebseb> mala85: no that's it now, 11.04 will only get security updates now
[00:46] <sgaap> if you dont want to use unity its safe to install the gnome 3 ppa
[00:46] <mmjunaid> just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 on my desktop and now after i choose the os in Grub there is a blank screen and no disk activity...
[00:46] <chilipep4> sebsebseb: so, based on this, i'm sure it's a relatively trivial problem, but i'm not sure with what.
[00:46] <mmjunaid> please help me
[00:46] <ohsix> chotaz: if you want to hibernate, at least 2/3rds the ram you have
[00:46] <[dlp]> chotaz: How much RAM you got?
[00:46] <KNUBBIG> !ask | mmjunaid
[00:46] <Logan_> KNUBBIG: he already did
[00:47] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: ok sounds like the upgrade gone wrong on you
[00:47] <KNUBBIG> oh sorry
[00:47] <acicula> ohsix: again i would like to suggest ##security or offtopic as the venue to continue this discussion
[00:47] <KNUBBIG> didn't see it
[00:47] <chotaz> [dlp]: 12GBs
[00:47] <Logan_> KNUBBIG: no problem
[00:47] <ohsix> chotaz: if you havelike 16gb of ram you can use less, since it won't all be in use :D
[00:47] <mala85> sebsebseb: The gnome3-team PPA will not be continuously updated?
[00:47] <Soothsayer> DCC exploit .. wtf :-|
[00:47] <sebsebseb> mala85: yes they will keep it up to date, it seems
[00:47] <ohsix> acicula: you cant make suppositions then not accept the answer & redirect
[00:47] <mmjunaid> yes,seems so, but i have clue after reading few google results,
[00:47] <Soothsayer> Kevin`: still around? got disconnected
[00:47] <JaymesKeller> Hi, I'm trying to access my NTFS RAID partition in 11.04. How do I get access into it from Ubuntu?
[00:47] <IdleOne> Soothsayer: don't do that. you can be k-lines from freenode for it :)
[00:47] <stefg> chotaz: if you plan on suspending your machine you need at least your ram size (plus some) . for the average modern machine (which rarely swaps) 1 G is usually enough
[00:47] <ohsix> it is plainly bad advice
[00:47] <[dlp]> chotaz: With that much RAM you don't really need swap unless you want to use hibernate.
[00:48] <KNUBBIG> JaymesKeller: did it work for you under 10.10?
[00:48] <sebsebseb> mala85: for the 100% full proper Gnome 3 expereince, wait untill 11.10 when it Ubuntu uses Gnome Shell,  or use another dsitro that has full Gnome 3 by default, but like I said if the ppa works for you, should be good enough for now really
[00:48] <mmjunaid> I have NVidia card and when i press the auto set button on the monitor, it say set a lower resolution
[00:48] <Kevin`> Soothsayer: pong
[00:48] <JaymesKeller> KNUBBIG: Yes, it did work under 10.10.
[00:48] <chotaz> [dlp]:  it's a lapop so yeah, hibernating is helpful.
[00:48] <[dlp]> chotaz: Or you're running something insanely memory-hungry.
[00:48] <chotaz> laptop*
[00:48] <sebsebseb> mala85: when Ubuntu uses Gnome 3 on the backend, I mean above, I typed wrong thing
[00:48] <Kevin`> Soothsayer: why would it end up being sda1? I would expect the windows c: partition to be sda1
[00:48] <ohsix> [dlp]: i always suggest at least 512m even if you have lots of ram;if only because there are pages in the vm that need never exist in memory in most cases & would just waste ram
[00:48] <Kevin`> Soothsayer: nor should you specifically change the numbers around (you'll confuse windows)
[00:48] <OrTigaS> while i'm browsing... suddenly appear if i want to upgrade! so i did!  lets see what will happen next!
[00:49]  * MC8 bashes the update manager
[00:49] <[dlp]> I usually suggest some as well.
[00:49] <mmjunaid> K
[00:49] <tase> why am i getting permission denied when trying to create an archive I files I own
[00:49] <mmjunaid> KU
[00:49] <nowherefast> hello
[00:49] <[dlp]> My machine has 3GB RAM, and used swap is almost always 0.
[00:49] <apprentice3d> hi
[00:49] <ohsix> [dlp]: also even memory hungry programs vary their access patterns, so theres no real rule of thumb, aside from hibernating :]
[00:50] <mmjunaid> KNUBBIG,  sebsebseb , any ideas please ??
[00:50] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: clean install Ubuntu I guess
[00:50] <likki> Does 11.04 ubuntu version have a lot of bugs?
[00:50] <ohsix> [dlp]: mine is 3g, swap is usually 1-4g in use
[00:50] <mala85> Ok. Seems I need a test computer for Gnome-Shell on 11.04. Can't risk using it as the primary OS currently I guess :)
[00:50] <likki> I'm still not sure if I should download it.
[00:50] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: or maybe simpalley  Grub is pointing to the wrong partition
[00:50] <ohsix> [dlp]: my working set is huge though, i really should get more ram
[00:50] <chotaz> [dlp]: ohsix: so I guess 4GB swap is more than enough? for my 12GB machine that is
[00:50] <nowherefast> would someone possibly be able to help me with a wifi related issue that I am having? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742299
[00:50] <OrTigaS> haha.... 4hrs to upgrade  :)
[00:50] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | mmjunaid
[00:50] <[dlp]> chotaz: If Linux runs out of memory it will kill a random process.
[00:50] <Phong_> i have air conditioner tell me that it "Estimated Yearly Operating Cost is $208.  is that mean i turn my AC on 24/7 for the whole summer and cost only $208?
[00:51] <mmjunaid> hmmm, let me check if this is the case
[00:51] <[dlp]> chotaz: That is, when all RAM + swap space has been used.
[00:51] <ohsix> [dlp]: it's not random but it's close; and you can turn off overcommit
[00:51] <ohsix> (if it's a real concern)
[00:51] <Logan_> !ot | Phong_
[00:51] <[dlp]> in which case malloc() will fail instead.
[00:51] <ohsix> well, mmap
[00:52] <Mahjongg> how can I record some audio that is already playing on my system?
[00:52] <[dlp]> :D
[00:52] <ohsix> [dlp]: but in the program likely crossing the line ;] theres a middleground option too, for some overcommit
[00:52] <chotaz> [dlp]:  rebooting now with a live 11.04 usb stick. going to do a fresh install :(
[00:52] <nowherefast> easy way out
[00:53] <ohsix> chotaz: i'd make my swap at elast half with that much memory
[00:53] <chotaz> [dlp]: kinda disappointed to see same login interface and wallpaper :x
[00:53] <ohsix> chotaz: that way a failed hibernate is less likely to sneak up on you
[00:53] <nowherefast> does anyone know how to completely remove wifi drivers in ubuntu 10.10?
[00:54] <ohsix> (which SUCKS, unless you like a hot bag & really hot laptop)
[00:54] <KNUBBIG> any1 instantly knows how to disable join/quit messages in irssi?
[00:54] <calvin> I'm having a super weird problem.  I think it may have something to do with my networking settings.  I can scp, rsync, and git push / pull anything 1406 bytes or smaller, but once i hit that cap, i get a timeout...like it sends the first packet and poops out or something.  Is anyone willing to help me troubleshoot?
[00:54] <[dlp]> I never use hibernate.
[00:54] <ohsix> KNUBBIG: /window level -joins -parts
[00:54] <[dlp]> Only suspend.
[00:54] <KNUBBIG> ohsix: thanks
[00:55] <ohsix> [dlp]: hybrid suspend wakes up the laptop for a hibernate after a while, or when the battery gets to 3%
[00:55] <JaymesKeller> I'm having problems trying to get into my NTFS RAID partition under 11.04, when it worked under 10.10. Any ideas on how to do this?
[00:55] <ohsix> which is why, practically speaking; i use hibernate a lot
[00:55] <[dlp]> ohsix: Interesting.
[00:56] <ohsix> JaymesKeller: you probably have to install dmraid, rebuild your ramfs & reboot
[00:56] <mordof> oh how i dislike problems with grub.. *sighs* So i did the install to 11.04 from 10.10, and now grub is dropping me to a repair command line, do i need to get a 11.04 live cd to fix it? or can i fix it in my 10.10 live cd?
[00:56] <[dlp]> I don't use suspend much either. I don't think my laptop has ever gone into hibernation that way.
[00:56] <entity> wow that wasn't annoying.
[00:56] <ohsix> mordof: is grub doing it or is it a busybox prompt?
[00:56] <[dlp]> entity: What?
[00:57] <entity> [dlp]: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600519/
[00:57] <entity> [dlp]: I kept getting sent to #ubuntu-read-to
[00:57] <mordof> ohsix: what's a busybox prompt? lol
[00:57] <ohsix> [dlp]: i rely on keeping my work around heavily, like months of suspends & a few hibernates
[00:57] <mmjunaid> sebsebseb, fdisk -l shows that the sda6 is the linux partition and pressing e on the boot menu item shows like this, set root='(hd0,msdos6)' is that ok ?
[00:57] <ohsix> mordof: if it doesn't say busybox don't worry about it
[00:57] <stefg> mordof: ou can probably fix it from the lice CD if you are able to chroot into the installed system
[00:57] <mordof> ohsix: ok, then i guess it's not that.
[00:57] <commodore64th> does anyone know what the default window manager for natty is?
[00:58] <acicula> unity
[00:58] <mordof> stefg: yeah, just that grub got updated with 11.04, so i'm thinking there may be version problems
[00:58] <ohsix> commodore64th: compiz with the unity plugin
[00:58] <nutsfornatty> unity
[00:58] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: I don't really know about configuring Grub 2 that much,  you may be better off re installing with 11.04, yep a clean install
[00:58] <commodore64th> do you know how I can reset my compiz settings to their default values?
[00:58] <lcb> mordof, can you get grub menu? (SHIFT after bios loading and before grub - then recovery)
[00:58] <ohsix> nutsfornatty / acicula: the _window manager_ is compiz
[00:58] <Ziber> Using compiz with multiple monitors, is there a way I can rotate them independently?
[00:58] <chotaz> swap should be primary or logical?
 does anybody know the command to get java on ubuntu
[00:59] <Sexygurl2furl> ?
[00:59] <mordof> lcb: grub tries to pop up - but fails to bring up the selectable menu
[00:59] <mmjunaid> i would have done a clean install already but i have many programs installed and dont have to do all the reinstallation, i have to finish projec work.
[00:59] <mordof> lcb: it drops me to a grup repair commandline thing
[00:59] <escott> mmjunaid, thats correct
[00:59] <ohsix> Ziber: not really, the workspaces are for allmonitors
[00:59] <alien-007> unable to mount 10GB filesystem   Error mounting:exited with code 18:Failed to write lock '/dev/sda1': Resource temporarily unavailable
[00:59] <mordof> lcb: so it's seeing Grub is there, but can't continue
[00:59] <lcb> mordof, did you try that sequence?
[00:59] <commodore64th> Sexygurl2furl, sudo apt-get install java
[00:59] <nastjuid> Sexygurl2furl: which java?
[00:59] <stefg> mordof: can you mount the installed system on the Live CD environment?
[00:59] <ohsix> Ziber: you can probably get by with sticking some apps in all workspaces though
[00:59] <alien-007> im booting on a mac ibook g4
[00:59] <calvin> join #ubuntu
[00:59] <mordof> lcb: no, but i thought it was essentially the same thing, since i've tried it in the past
[00:59] <Sexygurl2furl> I  need the web plugin
[00:59] <mordof> stefg: yeah
[00:59] <sebsebseb> !home | mmjunaid
[00:59] <Sexygurl2furl> and the latest java
[01:00] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: you would still have to re install the programs though
[01:00] <commodore64th> check the java website out
[01:00] <stefg> mordof: so where have you mounted it?
[01:00] <lcb> mordof, probably not. try and say something after that
[01:00] <mmjunaid> and the worst is that my wife also uses the same pc with a mulitseat and now she also cant work :(
[01:00] <escott> mmjunaid, thats the old 10.10 syntax though, it is changed slightly in 11.04
[01:00] <mordof> stefg: i'm not sure i understand - grub was working perfectly before the update, i changed nothing
[01:00] <mordof> lcb: alright, i'll be back
[01:00] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: right, and neither of you may like the Unity interface much that is in 11.04
[01:00] <[dlp]> entity: Make your fstab look like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600524/
[01:00] <mordof> stefg: brb
[01:00] <nutsfornatty> switch to classic ubuntu instructions: go to login screen -> look at bottom panel -> change "ubuntu" to "ubuntu classic" -> login -> done
[01:01] <_stev_> hi, I'm installing natty and I have a problem with grub2 and lvm
[01:01] <sebsebseb> mmjunaid: for example
[01:01] <lcb> mordof, don't do anything you are not sure... just go to the recovery menu and cameback here
[01:01] <KNUBBIG> cool upgrade is taking about 3 hours to complete :@ that will be 5 am here ...
[01:01] <mmjunaid> can i somehow specify the device resolution at kerrnel boot line ? when i press the e key?
[01:02] <alien-007>  unable to mount 10GB filesystem   Error mounting:exited with code 18:Failed to write lock '/dev/sda1': Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:02] <lcb> KNUBBIG, it depends on your inter-speed ;)
[01:02] <_stev_> it is an encrypted disk and grub2 can't probe a disk for my lvm root partition
[01:02] <alien-007> cai manually mount a disk on terminal /
[01:02] <KNUBBIG> lcb: already downloaded, install is taking 3 hours
[01:02] <lcb> KNUBBIG, did you upgrade before the distro upgrade?
[01:02] <_stev_> error is: Autodetection of a filesystem of "/dev/mapper/my-lvm-root-partition" failed
[01:02] <ohsix> [dlp]: heres one of those special cases thatneed intervention, you want to help him? :D
[01:02] <KNUBBIG> lcb: yes
[01:03] <ohsix> acicula: ping, help _stev_
[01:03] <lcb> KNUBBIG, so you have loads of things installed :)
[01:03] <bastidrazor> mgison
[01:03] <[dlp]> ohsix: Who?
[01:03] <entity> [dlp]: how do I get my write rights back to do that?
[01:03] <KNUBBIG> lcb: seems true :p ~1900 packages to upgrade :D
[01:03] <lcb> KNUBBIG, not too much .. :0
[01:03] <bastidrazor> ]
[01:03] <bastidrazor> \\\\
[01:04] <bastidrazor> \
[01:04] <[dlp]> entity: Try mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda2 /
[01:04] <KNUBBIG> lcb: than it's just my 5400 rpm hdd I think (+ 1.8 ghz dualcore)
[01:04] <acicula> ohsix: ?
[01:04] <lcb> KNUBBIG, let it go, don't interrupt or you might get screwed
[01:04] <bastidrazor> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\1~[01:05] <thebigroflz> hi guys, im new to ubuntu, and I need some help please
[01:05] <KNUBBIG> lcb: yes I'm afraid of that, probably will just leave it running while sleeping :)
[01:05] <entity> what in the world
[01:05] <lcb> bastidrazor, it seems you have a kb problem. just hit ALT+F4
[01:05] <kbrosnan> cat problem
[01:05] <entity> lol
[01:05] <KNUBBIG> thebigroflz: what's the problem?
[01:05] <[dlp]> lol
[01:05] <nowherefast> is anyone farmiliar with blacklisting drivers and would be able to help?
[01:06] <thebigroflz> I don't want to be asked to enter my keyring password everytime to enable the wireless, but the option is faded
[01:06] <kbrosnan> nowherefast: blacklisting drivers on what?
[01:06] <thebigroflz> like when I log back in, the "automatically unlock..." option is faded and cant be set
[01:06] <visual1ce> anybody used the upgrade feature to 11.04 from 10.10 in udpate manager?
[01:06] <entity> [dlp]: it returned my prompt.
[01:06] <lcb> KNUBBIG, yes. hopefully you don't have any pop-up prompts in meanwhile
[01:06] <nowherefast> kbrosnan: i am trying to uninstall my current wifi driver
[01:07] <[dlp]> entity: Good.
[01:07] <nowherefast> kbrosnan: so that i can install a new driver with ndiswrap
[01:07] <thebigroflz> anyone know how to fix/enable this?
[01:07] <entity> [dlp]: sweet write rights are back. thanks
[01:07] <KNUBBIG> lcb: I'll freak out if I get up and it still says 2h to go, do you want to do that and that ;D
[01:07] <kbrosnan> nowherefast: oh different drivers, was thinking video
[01:07] <[dlp]> entity: Be careful.
[01:07] <ohsix> thebigroflz: do you have ubuntu log you in without a password? if you do, it won't unlock the keyring for you automatically, and you'll get the joy of unlocking it for just about every access
[01:07] <lcb> KNUBBIG, just sleep well and don't have bad dreams about the end of the world :p
[01:07] <nowherefast> kbrosnan:from what i understand i need to blacklist the current wifi driver and uninstall the module
[01:07] <commodore64th> whew! deleting my compiz settings fixed all my worries.
[01:07] <KNUBBIG> oh but it probably will do as some config files etc from grub got modified :@
[01:08] <tamer> Need help with fixing this wireless problem after upgrading to 11.04. I can't view wireless connections using nm-applet, the drivers seem to be installed and the interface is up. Any suggestions?
[01:08] <mordof> lcb: tried.. i get this:  error: symbol not found: 'grub_env_export'.  grub rescue>
[01:08] <thebigroflz> ohsix, yes ubuntu logs me in automatically everytime. so theres no way to have both then?
[01:08] <nowherefast> tamer: you're probably having the same problem i am currently having
[01:08] <KNUBBIG> ah a question just came to my mind: Is it better to use the new config file, for example for GRUB, than my 'old', modified one?
[01:08] <nowherefast> tamer:have you tried connecting with wicd?
[01:08] <mordof> lcb: same as if i didn't hit shift (kept hitting to make sure it was getting the right time)
[01:08] <lcb> mordof, so you do really need the help of a live cd/usb
[01:08] <KNUBBIG> lcb: I'll try, thanks :)
[01:08] <tamer> nowherefast, nope, what do you mean?
[01:08] <mordof> lcb: *nods* but my question is, does it have to be 11.04 live, or can i use the 10.10 live i'm on currently?
[01:09] <ohsix> thebigroflz: but in this case in particular you can bypass the problem by setting "Available for all users" in the connection properties, it will make it a system connection and store the password somewhere else, and as a bonus it'll come up way before you log in :]
[01:09] <mordof> lcb: that's how i'm here now is the 10.10 live cd
[01:09] <nowherefast> tamer: type sudo apt-get install wicd
[01:09] <escott> thebigroflz, no if you want to tinker you could try and get a usb key to do your decrypting, but then you would have to take lots of stuff out of the encrypted partition http://blog.dustinkirkland.com/2009/02/how-encrypted-home-ecryptfs-works.html
[01:09] <nowherefast> tamer: then open it and try to connect to a network
[01:09] <alien-007>  unable to mount 10GB filesystem   Error mounting:exited with code 18:Failed to write lock '/dev/sda1': Resource temporarily unavailable
[01:09] <lcb> mordof, sure because most of the system is now 11.04, isn't?
[01:09] <alien-007> how can i deal with that erroe ?
[01:09] <ohsix> nowherefast: um, don't tell people to install wicd
[01:09] <mordof> lcb: indeed.
[01:09] <entity> [dlp]: edited the file.
[01:09] <mordof> lcb: does the live cd come with the capabilities to burn a cd?
[01:10] <entity> [dlp]: still get the error
[01:10]  * mordof wonders how that would go with only one drive
[01:10] <[dlp]> entity: You reboote3d?
[01:10] <_stev_> ok, if anyone cares grub2 has a problem with lvm volumes with dashes, anyone knows how I can rename an lvm logical volume?
[01:10] <nowherefast> ohsix: it has worked for me in the past
[01:10] <ohsix> nowherefast: what wifi chip do you have? it sounds like you've gotten some awesomely bad advice
[01:10] <lcb> mordof, go easy with that. in meanwhile backup your /home /etc and /usr dirs
[01:10] <entity> [dlp]: yeah
[01:10] <stefg> alien-007: what type of file system is that?
[01:10] <nowherefast> ohsix: i have intel 3945abg
[01:10] <[dlp]> Um. Ok. That's weird.
[01:10] <KNUBBIG> Is it better to use the new 11.04 config file, for example for GRUB, than my 'old', modified one?
[01:10] <thebigroflz> ohsix, thank you, I found the option, let me test by rebooting
[01:10] <alien-007> im booting on a mac ibook g4
[01:10] <ohsix> nowherefast: no reason to keep repeating it, if theres a problem with networkmanager it should be fixed
[01:10] <lcb> mordof, yes, you could burn cd/s with it
[01:10] <entity> [dlp]: I'm just gonna reinstall maverick from CD and then try again.
[01:10] <alien-007> i honestly have no idea
[01:10] <nowherefast> ohsix: how i have the same problem using 10.10 on an eee
[01:11] <ohsix> nowherefast: are you using natty?
[01:11] <entity> because I dont have a Natty CD
[01:11] <mordof> lcb: o.o is it really that big an issue to need to back those up?
[01:11]  * [dlp] racks his brains
[01:11] <escott> KNUBBIG, depends on what kinds of mods you made
[01:11] <alien-007> i cant format neither
[01:11] <nowherefast> ohsix:no
[01:11] <shmoolikipod> how the hell do I set my old desktop back
[01:11] <nowherefast> ohsix: i forget the name but its 10.10
[01:11] <WhiteD> I have a moderate problem with a network upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04
[01:11] <shmoolikipod> Ubuntu 11.04 GUI sucks!
[01:11] <KNUBBIG> escott: colour + background changes, but other configs eg samba are somewhat more modified
[01:11] <ohsix> nowherefast: what problems are you having with the "current" drivers
[01:11] <ohsix> shmoolikipod: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:12] <nowherefast> ohsix: i can view networks but i cannot connect to them
[01:12] <ohsix> shmoolikipod: this is a help channel
[01:12] <escott> KNUBBIG, i would just diff the two and take the parts you want
[01:12] <KNUBBIG> escott: okay, thanks
[01:12] <lcb> mordof, yes because you are having problems accessing the system. with a live cd you could access the partitions and backup what's necessary.
[01:12] <[dlp]> entity: You could run fsck on the drive, *DO NOT DO THIS IF THE FS IS MOUNTED READ-WRITE*
[01:12] <nowherefast> ohsix:i was able to connect one time, but it dropped
[01:12] <thebigroflz> ohsic, it worked!
[01:12] <escott> KNUBBIG, i think the biggest difference is that you can say sda instead of hd0
[01:12] <ozzloy> http://www.artima.com/shop/programming_in_scala_2ed anyone know if the ebook pdf from here is readable in linux?
[01:12] <alien-007> How can i know a disk filesystem ?
[01:12] <nowherefast> ohsix: i am not sure what driver i am currently using
[01:12] <ohsix> nowherefast: well it's a very windowsy thing to suggest to remove/reinstall drivers; the often have nothing to do with it
[01:12] <alien-007> im bootin 10.4 LTS live ppc
[01:12] <JaymesKeller> I'm still having trouble trying to access my NTFS raid under 11.04 I have looked at my packages and it seems that dmraid is already there. There are references to the RAID, but nothing useful.
[01:12] <WhiteD> Does anybody know how to force quit an upgrade I can't see?
[01:12] <entity> [dlp]: I'm not gonna risk it, I'm just gonna do clean install.
[01:12] <KNUBBIG> escott: okay, thank you
[01:12] <lcb> KNUBBIG, don't play with grub while upgrading... go to sleep :p
[01:13] <shmoolikipod> ohsix, so no one can help with the manus ? to get the old gnome look back ?
[01:13] <ohsix> WhiteD: never force anything you don't know how to fix manually
[01:13] <bastidrazor> alien-007: sudo fdisk -l
[01:13] <KNUBBIG> lcb: :D and then I'll wake up and my grub is destroyed *fears* :D
[01:13] <ohsix> shmoolikipod: pick the classic session on the login screen
[01:13] <acicula> shmoolikipod: you can select the ubuntu classic environment at the login prompt
[01:13] <lcb> lol, no
[01:13] <nowherefast> ohsix: ive exhausted all other options
[01:13] <shmoolikipod> ohsix, thanks :)
[01:13] <alien-007> bastidrazor: thanks
[01:13] <acicula> shmoolikipod: that should give you the old look
[01:13] <bastidrazor> alien-007: you're welcome.
[01:13] <WhiteD> ohsix: Yeah, well my upgrade to 10.10 stopped last night at 74% because my HDD spun down on my netbook. I can't do anything right now upgrade wise.
[01:13] <[dlp]> entity: If you've got a backup the risk is limited.
[01:13] <ohsix> JaymesKeller: if you scan manually with dmraid does it find the volumes?
[01:14] <nowherefast> ohsix: any ideas that are more linuxy? love to hear them : )
[01:14] <mordof> argh.. now i can't access my 1TB drive for some reason :\
[01:14] <[dlp]> entity: And if you don't then a clean install is riskier.
[01:14] <JaymesKeller> ohsix: How do you do that?
[01:14] <ohsix> WhiteD: why would that stop it, is it defective?
[01:14] <lcb> KNUBBIG, SHIFT before loading ubuntu and just hit 'update grub' on the recovery menu, just in case
[01:14] <KNUBBIG> lcb: thanks a lot
[01:14] <lcb> KNUBBIG, but don't worry about that now.
[01:14] <ohsix> JaymesKeller: "man dmraid" or dmraid --help in a terminal
[01:15] <alien-007> stefg: it says /dev/hdc1  Apple partition map Apple
[01:15] <WhiteD> ohsix: I have no idea. I waited 10 minutes for it to continue with installation, and I didn't see a thing move. Any suggestions? I've tried to upgrade to 11.04 but I can't because it says it is still running, which it is not.
[01:15] <entity> [dlp]: how so? If I wipe the partiton clean (because I backed up my stuff before even doing this) and then clean install on the partition...?
[01:15] <ohsix> nowherefast: well, remove all the changes you made trying to solve the problem for one
[01:15] <shmoolikipod> ohsix, I don't have an option to change the session type ...
[01:15] <JaymesKeller> ohsix: dmraid seems to be for software RAIDs, I have a hardware one.
[01:15] <KNUBBIG> lcb: I don't worry that much I think, it should all go well (says the optimist)
[01:15] <stefg> alien-007: so it's likely a hfs+ partition...
[01:15] <Ziber> My built in mic isnt working with ubuntu. Any ideas?
[01:15] <alien-007> can i format a disk on terminal
[01:15] <mordof> stefg: so what were you saying before? i have access to the filesystem
[01:15] <lcb> KNUBBIG, hehehe
[01:15] <[dlp]> entity: Then breaking your filesystem with a bad fsck is worth trying.
[01:15] <shmoolikipod> all I want is to get the old menus look and remove the side bar
[01:15] <escott> JaymesKeller, have you loaded the correct modules for your raid controller
[01:15] <usr13> alien-007: sudo
[01:15] <mordof> ugh this is annoying
[01:16] <ohsix> JaymesKeller: what controller?
[01:16] <alien-007> stefg: yes it says that
[01:16] <[dlp]> Because it won't take as long as a fresh install.
[01:16] <usr13> alien-007: Yes
[01:16] <nowherefast> ohsix: thats already done
[01:16] <ohsix> shmoolikipod: click on your name first, it's at the bottom
[01:16] <JaymesKeller> ohsix:  It is an nvidia raid controller.
[01:16] <[dlp]> entity: And the chances are it won't break your filesystem.
[01:16] <entity> [dlp]: okay so my computer is off. I'm gonna turn it on, it produces that error, I press M, then what?
[01:16] <ohsix> JaymesKeller: then it is not hardware
[01:16] <usr13> alien-007: mkfs
[01:16] <ohsix> nowherefast: how sure are you that it is?
[01:16] <shmoolikipod> ohsix, when I click on my name I get loged in automatically
[01:16] <shmoolikipod> :(
[01:17] <WhiteD> ohsix: I'd prefer not to do a clean install if that is what you are thinking. I don't have anything to back up my data with.
[01:17] <mordof> lcb: my 1TB drive is only accessible from user 1000 - i don't really want to change the permissions, otherwise it'll mess it up for my mount point once grub is fixed. can i temporarily get access to it somehow?
[01:17] <[dlp]> entity: cat /proc/mounts
[01:17] <Ziber> My built in mic isnt working with ubuntu. Any ideas?
[01:17] <stefg> alien-007:sudo mkdir /media/foo; sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/foo /media/foo
[01:17] <entity> [dlp]: ok now what
[01:17] <escott> mordof, su to user with uid 1000
[01:17] <nowherefast> ohsix: i am not but all files that were edited were changed and i think reboot will change the modprobes
[01:17] <KNUBBIG> !lts
[01:17] <mordof> escott: ok
[01:17] <escott> mordof, or root
[01:17] <KNUBBIG> ah fine
[01:17] <lcb> mordof, a hint... the directories i told you, select Compress from nautilus. it would be easier that way to backup.
[01:17] <mlaci> hi guys! does the official natty installer supports full disk encryption or should i use the alternate installer image?
[01:17] <JaymesKeller> ohsix:  I thought it was hardware-based. Not sure why it would be software based, but still, dmraid finds them. So the next step is to get it mounted.
[01:18] <mordof> lcb: i don't need to worry about that, i just want to get access to my other hard drive
[01:18] <[dlp]> entity: then fsck /dev/device-by-uuid/...
[01:18] <escott> mordof, 1000 is by default the first non-root user on the system
[01:18] <ohsix> WhiteD: there are logs generated during the install, you could look at those
[01:18] <lcb> mordof, after repairing or anytime?
[01:18] <WhiteD> ohsix: Ok, how do I do that?
[01:18] <[dlp]> entity: I am assuming the fs is mounted read-only. It's very important that it is.
[01:18] <ohsix> WhiteD: open a terminal then look in /var/log/dist-upgrade/
[01:18] <escott> JaymesKeller, its "soft-raid" you can read lots of cursing about that online
[01:19] <ohsix> WhiteD: err nevermind that
[01:19] <mordof> lcb: my /home is on a seperate partition to begin with, and i can move /usr and /etc to different partitions as well
[01:19] <mordof> lcb: i'll do that after this is repaired
[01:19] <WhiteD> ohsix: o_O uhhh ok? ha
[01:19] <stefg> mordof: if you can mount the file system you can chroot to it. this makes it possible to reinstall grub from within the chroot'ed system
[01:19] <nowherefast> ohsix: from what i have read besides driver issue it could be a bluetooth issue (solved using rfkill) application issue (wicd vs network manager) or id issue (not displaying in iwconfig) and its not so i must assume its a driver or driver conflict
[01:19] <ohsix> WhiteD: for installs theres a different location & i don't remember it offhand
[01:19] <lcb> mordof, oh, ok then
[01:19] <kavurt> i have beta2 installed. but today, i have no updates. what might be wrong. i tried a couple different mirrors. all are the same.
[01:19] <entity> [dlp]: what are the dots oh and it IS IN READ-WRITE
[01:19] <stefg> mordof: you should read dmesg
[01:19] <ohsix> nowherefast: well trying wicd instead of networkmanager doesn't tell you anything
[01:20] <mordof> stefg: ah, right.. 20 mins until my live 11.04 is done since it seems 10.10 is kinda risky
[01:20] <Falcorian> I've got a quick question about the installer for 11.04, 64bit, off of a live USB. The partition editor doesn't seem to be able to set user specified mount points. Am I missing something or was this feature removed?
[01:20] <[dlp]> Are you sure?
[01:20] <escott> !final | kavurt its been pretty quiet on release day
[01:20] <[dlp]> entity: ^^^
[01:20] <ohsix> nowherefast: wicd gets less eyes, i trust it a lot less than n-m
[01:20] <entity> [dlp]: not to worry, I have not executed any commands besides cat
[01:20] <Ziber> What packages might I need to install to get a built in mic working?
[01:20] <ohsix> nowherefast: try and connect with n-m, then grep -i networkman /var/log/syslog
[01:20] <cmykify> system monitor says my CPU(s) are running at 100% after i install 11.04, but the processes show 4-10% load. What's using up the rest?
[01:21] <escott> Ziber, its part of alsa
[01:21] <[dlp]> entity: fsck will print a big fat warning anyway
[01:21] <escott> Ziber, is this the same problem from 2 days ago?
[01:21] <ohsix> nowherefast: it's very noisy about what it does, if you can't figure it out paste the output to a pastebin
[01:21] <entity> so how do I mount in readonly
[01:21] <mordof> stefg: and what would i be looking for in there?
[01:21] <JaymesKeller> I hope I'm on the right track here. I have found that mdarray knows that my RAID exists, but now I want to mount it. Would mdadm be needed? Or something else?
[01:21] <[dlp]> entity: If you just rebooted, you should be read only already.
[01:21] <ohsix> cmykify: try running something like htop in a terminal, it shows more information
[01:22] <bikcmp> are ubuntu's servers going unusually slow today?
[01:22] <entity> [dlp]: I just tried to nano a txt file and it didnt warn me about no write privs
[01:22] <alien-007> stefg: sudo mkdir /media/foo; sudo mount -t hfsplus /dev/foo /media/foo worked for me,,thanks a lot buddy ;)
[01:22] <usr13> bikcmp: Yes
[01:22] <WhiteD> Does anybody know where to check the upgrade logs? not finding anything on google.
[01:22] <Pici> bikcmp: not unusual for a release day.
[01:22] <[dlp]> entity: What did the cat say?
[01:22] <bikcmp> usr13: ideas why? my mirror seemed to crawl
[01:22] <bikcmp> Pici: release day?
[01:22] <[dlp]> entity: And what error did you get this time?
[01:22] <nowherefast> ohsix: thanks, the meat and potatos seem to be associating -> disconnected
[01:22] <entity> [dlp]: oh just kidding i'm in readonly
[01:22] <escott> JaymesKeller, is mdarray part of mdadm or dmraid (they are different)
[01:22] <usr13> bikcmp: 11.04 came out today.
[01:22] <bikcmp> oh.
[01:22] <erik333> hm... this new gnome thing... how do you move the panels or config anything? None of the shortcuts include gnome configuration utilities XD
[01:22] <Pici> bikcmp: 11.04 was relased today. Or yesterday depending on your timezone
[01:22] <bikcmp> figures :P
[01:23] <nastjuid> bikcmp: you could find a closer/faster mirror
[01:23] <nowherefast> ohsix: it gives the reason as 0
[01:23] <entity> [dlp]: the cat said meow. no seriously, it looks the same as last time
[01:23] <escott> erik333, in unity you don't thats the whole idea :)
[01:23] <stefg> mordof: often there's hints in this why you can't access a filesystem
[01:23] <mordof> i guess i'll just wait for any more questions until i get on the 11.04 live cd
[01:23] <mordof> stefg: everything mounts fine, i can access the file systems
[01:23] <FloatingGoat> what is the unity project called?
[01:23] <ohsix> nowherefast: indeed, you know those cards have problems with wmm/qos/power saving and some other things, do you have them enabled on your router?
[01:23] <mordof> stefg: this is a grub problem..
[01:23] <erik333> so this is a good time to switch to a tiling wm then i guess
[01:23] <JaymesKeller> escott: I meant dmarray. It has found my RAID, so 11.04 knows it exists.
[01:23] <ohsix> FloatingGoat: ayatana?
[01:23] <mordof> stefg: a grub configuration problem at that, because grub is still accessible
[01:23] <JaymesKeller> escott: Now I need to know how to get it mounted.
[01:23] <Falcorian> Answering my own question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/769043 Known bug :-/
[01:24] <[dlp]> entity: Can you paste the line with /dev/disk/by-uuid on it?
[01:24] <chotaz> Ew. first impression of Unity, it sucks :\ How can I completly remove it?
[01:24] <stefg> mordof: is your installed system mounted now?
[01:24] <escott> JaymesKeller, dmarray would be part of dmraid not mdadm. i'm not familiar with device-mapper
[01:24] <erik333> was using awesome + gnome panel now to ease the transition, but that stopped working after upgrade
[01:24] <nowherefast> ohsix: do i have power saving enabled on my router? i don't think so
[01:24] <ohsix> chotaz: use the classic desktop session, pick it on the login screen
[01:24] <cmykify> ohsix: kthnx back in a  minute
[01:24] <nowherefast> ohsix: yeah it looks like it gets to stage 3 of 5 then disconnects
[01:24] <chotaz> ohsix: no way to uninstall it and have my comp running just like before the update?
[01:25] <mordof> stefg: yes
[01:25] <ohsix> nowherefast: post the output to a pastebin please
[01:25] <FloatingGoat> is there a command to open the dash in unity 2D?
[01:25] <mordof> stefg: both my /home and my / are mounted at the moment
[01:25] <WhiteD> ohsix: this is what keeps popping up: Cannot get the exclusive lock on the packaging backend.
[01:25] <WhiteD> Please close any other legacy packaging tools that may be open.
[01:25] <JaymesKeller> escott: dmraid knows it's there. What command do I use to mount the array?
[01:25] <entity> [dlp]: /dev/disk/by-uuid/87d334b4-9a16-4621-967a-5f74491dd9e4 / ext4 ro,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered 0 0
[01:25] <stefg> mordof: so where is it mounted ( ls /media )
[01:25] <ohsix> chotaz: not if you installed it, theres a lot more than unity in play, just use the classic session
[01:25] <escott> JaymesKeller, see man dmarray i don't know it
[01:25] <entity> lol I will have my UUIDs memorized after tonight... :\
[01:25] <[dlp]> entity: It's read only, you can fsck it.
[01:26] <ohsix> WhiteD: are you running apt-get or synaptic, or aptitude or anything at the same time?
[01:26] <entity> okay
[01:26] <WhiteD> I doubt it. Not to my knowledge.
[01:26] <[dlp]> entity: fsck might still complain it's mounted, but just ignore it.
[01:26] <mordof> stefg: it is under /media/166 GB Filesystem
[01:26] <entity> [dlp]: what's the whole fsck command
[01:26] <chotaz> ohsix:  I never had the chance to choose not to install it
[01:26] <ohsix> entity: mount understands UUID=<uuid> for the volume name, no need to use that path
[01:26] <WhiteD> ohsix: Sorry; ha not to my knowledge
[01:26] <[dlp]> fsck /dev/disk/by-uuid/87d334b4-9a16-4621-967a-5f74491dd9e4
[01:26] <escott> JaymesKeller, and if it follows standard terminology you would assemble it and then mount a device /dev/dmarray1 or some such
[01:26] <tamer> nowherefast, worked, thanks! What's the problem with nm-applet anyways, any ideas?
[01:27] <ohsix> WhiteD: ok 1 sec, theres a quick way to check
[01:27] <TerryBook> can anyone tell me how to get growl notifications in natty?
[01:27] <nowherefast> ohsix: the contents can be found in the final reply in my thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10734573#post10734573
[01:27] <WhiteD> ohsix: this is what I meant by forcing them to quit...
[01:27] <nowherefast> tamer: glad it worked, couldn't tell you honestly why it works : P
[01:27] <stefg> mordof: get a terminal and type 'ls /media'. i think the real mountpoint is some lenghty number dir in /media
[01:28] <ohsix> WhiteD: fuser -v /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[01:28] <mordof> stefg: as always, that's the uuid of the drive
[01:28] <Soothsayer> I did a sharink on two separate drives to make space fo Ubuntu..but the two Unallocated spaces are not contiguous, how do I achieve that ?
[01:28] <Soothsayer> shrink*
[01:28] <mordof> stefg: /media/3d8dc5b8-b2d8-4172-ac62-7b27f327cb45
[01:28] <cmykify> ohsix: htop says the same. I add up all active processes and it's 13% cpu load. Htop says 100% on both cores, also. ??
[01:28] <ohsix> nowherefast: as a rule i don't trouble myself with forums, but i'll make an exception this time; please use paste.ubuntu.com in the future
[01:28] <stefg> mordof: so cd to that dir
[01:28] <WhiteD> ohsix: that did nothing.
[01:29] <JaymesKeller> Okay, does anyone know how to assemble and mount the software RAID array I have?
[01:29] <ohsix> cmykify: it says at the top where its's being used
[01:29] <conical> easy question: I
[01:29] <Pici> conical: Wow, that is easy.
[01:29] <conical> I'm ssh -x ing into my ubuntu box
[01:29] <lcb> conical, and short
[01:29] <ohsix> cmykify: be sure to run it w/ "sudo htop" as by default it only shows your usere & no kernel threads
[01:29] <cmykify> ohsix: yeah, top process is Compiz at 7%
[01:29] <conical> but can't open folders that requre root access
[01:29] <[dlp]> entity: What happened?
[01:29] <chotaz> ohsix:  the only thing i can choose at the login is the user, nothing to choose unity or not is here. help?
[01:29] <conical> normally i'd be prompted to enter my password
[01:30] <erik333> so, are there any advantages to the unity dektop thing? I'm trying really hard to think of one. It's like it was meant for tablet PC:s
[01:30] <cmykify> ok i'll go sudo 1 sec
[01:30] <mordof> stefg: ah, can't - no root perms
[01:30] <hiexpo> hola Pici
[01:30] <Pici> hiexpo: howdy
[01:30] <ohsix> chotaz: choose the user, then look at the bottom
[01:30] <mordof> stefg: need to root into it, but i don't remember how :\
[01:30] <sebsebseb> erik333: well yeah it was made for netbooks only to begin with
[01:30] <escott> conical, you have put sudo in front of the command
[01:30] <ohsix> erik333: and netbooks, they outsell notebooks, and notebooks desktops
[01:30] <entity> [dlp]: fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2 e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010) /dev/sda2: clean, 449495/1525920 files 5429183 blocks (check after next mount)
[01:30] <conical> yes, I know that, but it's in a shell
[01:30] <conical> i mean
[01:30] <conical> it's in the gui
[01:30] <mordof> stefg: ah, got it
[01:30] <ohsix> WhiteD: ok then that message is wrong or not the real error
[01:30] <conical> so a better question
[01:30] <escott> conical, then gksudo
[01:31] <mordof> stefg: i'm rooted into it
[01:31] <cmykify> ohsix: Still just compiz at 7% in htop (sudo)
[01:31] <[dlp]> entity: Then it should have mounted in the first place.
[01:31] <entity> [dlp]: but it's not.
[01:31] <stefg> mordof: when you are at the root of the installed system you need to bind-mount /proc /sys and /dev, and then chroot into it
[01:31] <Pici> conical: I find it useful if I need to use ssh -x to have it open a terminal (gnome-terminal maybe) first, and then run any other application I need from there.
[01:31] <Soothsayer> I did a shrink on two separate drives to make space fo Ubuntu..but the two Unallocated spaces are not contiguous, how do I achieve that ?
[01:31] <WhiteD> ohsix: hang on think I found an answer. http://bit.ly/imR2UK
[01:31] <ohsix> cmykify: the cpu usage bar at the top is one solid color?
[01:32] <mordof> stefg: ah, yeah - i found that in a post here to repair it
[01:32] <stefg> mordof: if you did not -bind-mount /dev it's useless
[01:32] <conical> okay, is there a way to enable the gnome session to view the locked drives?
[01:32] <Blue1> !md5sum
[01:32] <conical> mount?
[01:32] <mordof> stefg: will this process work if i'm in 10.10 live?
[01:32] <Spaz_Dynamic> !ati
[01:32] <Blue1> useless
[01:32] <ohsix> WhiteD: that is very old information, even if it was correct at the time, be careful
[01:32] <eigba> I think I like unity, how is everyone else taking it?
[01:32] <mordof> stefg: i'm worried it'll just revert grub to it's older version
[01:32] <nowherefast> ohsix: do you think installing a new driver would solve the problem?
[01:32] <Spaz_Dynamic> there we go, forgot where it was. thanks ubottu
[01:33] <ohsix> nowherefast: you haven't identified a problem yet, just a symptom
[01:33] <asteriskmonkey1> how the heck do you get rid of the anoying left nave bar in unbuntu 11
[01:33] <erik333> aha! the shutoff buttton had a link to the config center... maybe there is hope for gnome yet - they knew exactly where people would look first when they started unity
[01:33] <Quasi_> hello I just installed 11.04 but my nvidia drivers is "currently not in used". I did reboot in a recovery console, purge nvidia-common and reinstall it but it still doesn't work. Any idea ?
[01:33] <kaiyin> what is the best gui backup tool for ubuntu?
[01:33] <nowherefast> ohsix: the problem is i cannot connect to any wifi networks
[01:33] <escott> conical, add them to /etc/fstab
[01:33] <WhiteD> ohsix: is there a Kubuntu sub channel or other channel?
[01:33] <cmykify> ohsix: yes, solid white/teal, why?
[01:33] <Pici> WhiteD: #kubuntu :)
[01:33] <eigba> erik333, I take it your not liking unity?
[01:33] <escott> conical, otherwise you have to get a daemon like gnome-disk-utility to handle hotplug events
[01:33] <KNUBBIG> !kubuntu | WhiteD
[01:34] <WhiteD> Pici: Shanks!
[01:34] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: ok yeah, and does Unity freeze on you as well?
[01:34] <ohsix> cmykify: because it shows 4 types of information, irqs and stuff
[01:34] <WhiteD> #kubuntu
[01:34] <entity> [dlp]: yeah it's giving me the original error with / not being ready or present. I really think I'm just gonna clean install
[01:34] <ohsix> WhiteD: good luck with kde guys D:
[01:34] <Quasi_> sebsebseb  not for the moment, but the fan is running at top speed all the time
[01:34] <[dlp]> entity: Fair enough.
[01:34] <WhiteD> ohsix: thanks, will try
[01:34] <ohsix> nowherefast: have you tried the backports?
[01:34] <Blue1> is this the correct page for the md5sums?  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/MD5SUMS
[01:35] <nmaxchat> to connect Laserjet1018 to PC via Linksys+WUSB11+Wireless‑B ?
[01:35] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: than fan issue is probably something else, hardware issue or whatever
[01:35] <stefg> mmiller235: in case you are still interested... i've build and exported a natty appliance which works on my box... you can d/l that at http://ubuntuone.com/p/pEp/
[01:35] <[dlp]> entity: I'm defeated.
[01:35] <gksmithlcw> I'm running Ubuntu Server 10.04, trying to install ffmpeg. I'm having nothing but problems. Currently, I'm trying to install nasm through apt and it's telling me it's not available.
[01:35] <gksmithlcw> Any ideas?
[01:35] <nowherefast> ohsix: are you talking about sudo apt-get install linux-backports?
[01:35] <entity> [dlp]: thank you very much for your time and help no matter. :D
[01:35] <nowherefast> ohsix: if so no
[01:35] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: altough I guess a quick test, could be to log out now,  get the log in screen, open up Ubuntu Classic Desktop, and see if the fan is ok then
[01:35] <fuzzybunny69y> hey everyone! How do you upgrade from the 11.04 alpha/beta releases to the final release?
[01:35] <ohsix> nowherefast: well with the proper package name, but yes
[01:35] <Quasi_> sebsebseb I think because the lack of the driver the cpu is more used, so the fan speeds up
[01:35] <sebsebseb> !upgrade | fuzzybunny69y
[01:36] <ohsix> nowherefast: are you sure it's any wifi and not one particular router?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> Quasi_:  and what card you got?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> graphics
[01:36] <erik333> @eigba Not a lot, soz. Panels i can't move, huge icon shortcuts and no menu :( and the run command thingy covers 25% of the screen - a bit overkill on 27" screen XD
[01:36] <ceed^> Hi, when I log (natty) there's no Skype notification icon, only an open space where it should have been. If I kill Skype and open it again the notification icon appears. Any idea why it's not there when I log in?
[01:36] <Quasi_> sebsebseb nvidia 8600 gts
[01:36] <ohsix> erik333: there is no panel in unity
[01:36] <cmykify> ohsix: I don't know what that is. The color should tell me something?
[01:36] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: ok and so the propritary driver it says isn't installed?  or it is installed, but not activated?
[01:36] <Quasi_> sebsebseb installed but not activated
[01:36] <nmaxchat> How  to connect Laserjet1018 to PC via Linksys+WUSB11+Wireless‑B ? I saw something about a prism driver but how do I get it ?
[01:36] <nowherefast> ohsix: i have tried with 3 networks on 3 diff routers and my eee has the same problem on 10.10
[01:37] <ohsix> cmykify: it is not displaying as i expected, if it were it would show whats doing it
[01:37] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: yeah I had this kind of stuff with beta 2, but
[01:37] <Seedymac> Hi guys, is aptitude deprecated?
[01:37] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: in my case Unity would freeze if the propritary driver was used, but if I removed the propritary driver and installed the experimental 3D driver, Unity would work
[01:37] <ohsix> nowherefast: but your eee doesn't have an intel wifi chip, theres another problem
[01:37] <cmykify> ohsix: ok, any other utils or info dumps I can do to figure it out?
[01:37] <erik333> ohsix: well there are some panel-like grey strips where panels normally might be... and they hold volume controls and clocks
[01:37] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: so if you try the experimental 3D driver, things may work better for you
[01:38] <ohsix> erik333: yea, it's only superficially similar
[01:38] <nowherefast> ohsix: definately other problem
[01:38] <sebsebseb> !pm > Quasi_
[01:38] <ohsix> nowherefast: so changing your drivers would do what exactly?
[01:38] <stefg> Actually that might be useful for anyone running virtualbox: Premade natty appliance (with 3D and unity)  at http://ubuntuone.com/p/pEp/
[01:39] <ceed^> If anyone have ugly boot after installing the non-free nvidia driver install startupmanager and set your resolution and color depth. after that it looks good.
[01:39] <nowherefast> ohsix: ive read different drivers are different quality with many wifi cards in ubuntu
[01:39] <Quasi_> sebsebseb  how can I install it (I'm a noob sorry)
[01:39] <ohsix> nowherefast: things to check: if its wireless g/n, make sure b interop is on even if you're not using b, disable wmm, disable wireless power savings
[01:39] <asteriskmonkey1> can i get my old gnome back im hating ubuntu 11.04
[01:39] <fuzzybunny69y> Hey guys I am trying to  upgrade from Ubuntu 11.04 Alpha/Beta to the final and it keeps saying "Not all updates can be installed" and to run a partial upgrade. Should I do this or is there some other way to make sure I upgrade to the final release.
[01:39] <nowherefast> ohsix: for example the highly variable outcomes of madwifi vs ath9k vs ndis + windows in transfer speeds, etc
[01:39] <ohsix> nowherefast: there aren't different drivers practically speaking, there is one, and less good options, like madwifi, vendor drivers or ndiswrapper
[01:40] <nowherefast> ohsix: how do i disable power saving?
[01:40] <ceed^> asteriskmonkey1, log into ubuntu classic instead. that's the old gnome deskto
[01:40] <ohsix> nowherefast: separate concern, and the mainline one will be fixed some day
[01:40] <Quasi_> sebsebseb where can I get the experimental driver and how to install it ?
[01:40] <ceed^> *desktop
[01:40] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: I assume this is the same Beta 2 and the final, so  going by what I ddi with Beta 2.  got to remove the propritary driver,  in additional drivers yeah,  and then after you done that may have to re boot the computer first, but should then have an option for an experimental 3D driver showing that you can then install
[01:40] <asteriskmonkey1> ceed how do i do that?
[01:40] <ohsix> nowherefast: you need to open your routers management pages, it has loads of options
[01:41] <Quasi_> sebsebseb thanks a lot for your help, will try that
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: and hold on
[01:41] <nowherefast> ohsix: ah... yeah, disabled
[01:41] <ceed^> asteriskmonkey1, log out, click on your name in gdm, then select classic from the meny on the bottom of the screen
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: and if you do this, and for some odd reason, you find that Unity is completly broken
[01:41] <asteriskmonkey1> ceed thanks
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: log into Ubuntu Classic Mode (no effects)  and install the propritary driver again I guess
[01:41] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: from the log in screen
[01:41] <eigba> asteriskmonkey1, I wish they would of went with gnome3
[01:42] <asteriskmonkey1> eigba ,the more i read about the side bar i see that alot..
[01:42] <Quasi_> sebsebseb ok will do that. Last question : I have 2 Nvidia drivers (173 & current) Should I uninstall both ?
[01:42] <ceed^> asteriskmonkey1, I also hated Unity initially. you should give it a chance at some point. it's pretty functional although a bit more limited than good 'ol gnome right now.
[01:42] <sebsebseb> Quasi_: Unity didn't brake when I did what I am saying, it got it working for me, but something different may happen for you
[01:42] <asteriskmonkey1> if i wanted a mac id buy one
[01:42] <dust--> natty is out - is there a reason to not upgrade? how is unity doing? is it playing nicely?
[01:42] <sebsebseb> asteriskmonkey1: http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3
[01:42] <ThomasUK> dust-- seems variable
[01:43] <asteriskmonkey1> ceed i see how it could be good for a tabled or something but i do way to many things at once for this gui :P
[01:43] <soreau> Man this sucks. Bug #1: Can't enter a custom mount point after selecting Edit for an existing partition from the live 11.04 desktop cd installer
[01:43] <sebsebseb> !gnome3 | asteriskmonkey1
[01:43] <ceed^> dust--, Unity has played nice here the last couple of weeks. I like it
[01:43] <sebsebseb> http://askubuntu.com/questions/22946/how-do-i-install-the-latest-version-of-gnome-3 :)
[01:43] <jmwpc> I'm currently upgrading my laptop from 10.04 -> 11.04 using the CD. It's been stuck on 'Restoring previously installed packages...' for about an hour with no progress. I didn't really have all that many additional packages beyond the base OS installed. What's my next move?
[01:44] <shane4ubuntu> ok, I take it that this http://askubuntu.com/questions/30742/how-do-i-access-the-system-tray   is no longer correct?
[01:44] <dust--> is unity working fine in vmware workstation?
[01:44] <ceed^> asteriskmonkey1, I multitask quite heavily myself, but I've always liked out of the way desktop environments, and Unity seems to be one of those :)
[01:44] <dust--> i heard it needs 3d acceleration
[01:44] <shane4ubuntu> Also, I really miss my bottom panel that had all my open apps on it, how do I do that in unity?
[01:44] <jdahm> can I get focus follows mouse in unity?
[01:45] <Quasi_> shane4ubuntu you can try avant window navigator
[01:45] <sgaap> or check out cairo dock
[01:45] <ceed^> shane4ubuntu, no taskbar in Unity. You need to use the laucher or Alt-Tab. That's kinds Mac-ish, but works :)
[01:45] <kaiyin> Will ppa sources conflict with system upgrade?
[01:45] <shane4ubuntu> ceed^:  You mean I have to take my hand off my mouse???
[01:46] <taglass> META-W is also an option for changing windows.
[01:46] <ceed^> shane4ubuntu, well. no. running apps are marked with an arrow on the side in the launcher, so you can restore apps from there
[01:47] <ohsix> kaiyin: yes, but not generally; purging ppa's is nearly a must for upgrades
[01:47] <shane4ubuntu> ceed^: my side bar is sooo full, it is almost useless, it takes quite a bit of time to scroll down, and not all open apps show up there.
[01:47] <erik333> is there a way to reach the normal menu from unity?
[01:47] <kzetts> anyone else getting ridiculously slow sleeps on the dist upgrade?
[01:47] <kzetts> erik333: log out and select ubuntu classic as your session
[01:47] <Soothsayer> if I have the Ubuntu 11 bootable disc.. isn't there ANY way for me to upgrade the 10.10 to it using it? I don't want to download all the packages all over again through the internet update
[01:47] <Soothsayer> its terribly slow.. 5 hours remaining!
[01:47] <ceed^> shane4ubuntu, if you feel you need a taskabar there's always classic! :)
[01:47] <ohsix> nowherefast: any change?
[01:47] <erik333> yes i did that
[01:48] <Ziber> New ubuntu user, 10.10, having issues with my built in mic... Anyone mind helping me?
[01:48] <nowherefast> ohsix: nope : (
[01:48] <Soothsayer> kzetts: yes, here
[01:48] <Soothsayer> very slow update
[01:48] <kzetts> Soothsayer: good, I was making sure its not just me, sometimes my cable is slow as hell, and i reboot my modem, but i didnt want to do it in the middle of the dist upgrade if i didnt have to
[01:48] <nowherefast> ohsix: do you know the command to ID a driver?
[01:48] <ohsix> kaiyin: unfortunately it's down to what you don't know with ppas :\
[01:48] <kzetts> erik333: and? is that not what you wanted?
[01:48] <kaiyin> ohsix: how do i purge them?
[01:48] <shane4ubuntu> ceed^: I'm trying to give unity a try, but not very happy about it thus far, perhaps I will learn the tricks and like it.
[01:48] <ohsix> nowherefast: lsmod
[01:48] <KNUBBIG> is there a command to turn off the display until a button is pressed or the mosue is moved?
[01:48] <conical> how do you remotely log into your machine so you can view it over VNC?
[01:49] <ohsix> kaiyin: ppa-purge ppa:that/youadded0itwith
[01:49] <Soothsayer> kzetts: if I cancel .. can I resume it later? (cause ive already downloaded 800 packages)
[01:49] <erik333> depends, if i want to set up the shortcuts - having the menu handy in some form would problably help?
[01:49] <Mikaze> Long as I can `echo "speakup_soft start=1" >> /etc/modules` and reboot and  thenhave  accessible access to the text console, I'll be happy with Ubuntu.
[01:49] <ohsix> conical: enable remote assistance
[01:49] <kzetts> conical: instyall a vnc service and make sure it is running, and then connect to it on whichever port you specify
[01:49] <Ziber> New ubuntu user, 10.10, having issues with my built in mic... Anyone mind helping me?
[01:49] <reves> Anybody had any problems with a fresh install of 11.04 booting up to the loading screen, then just resetting the system in a loop?
[01:49] <usr13> conical: there is tightvnc and x11vnc
[01:49] <nowherefast> ohsix: i am going to throw 9.04 as my wifi works out of the box on that release and see if it's using the same driver
[01:49] <conical> it requires me to be logged in
[01:49] <conical> to enable remote assitance
[01:49] <ohsix> Mikaze: if that was it, why bother with ubuntu?
[01:50] <conical> assistance
[01:50] <kzetts> Soothsayer: i dont know, im at 844 packages, and im in the same boat, ive seen it drop to as low as 2kbs
[01:50] <conical> which i can do via ssh -x
[01:50] <kaiyin> ohsix: what if i don't remember those names?
[01:50] <WhiteD> ohsix: lol it was a problem with the upgrade package I was using. The Ubuntu Upgrade software is doing the job without a problem.
[01:50] <conical> but then i'm viewing that session
[01:50] <Soothsayer> kzetts: at 22 kbps here
[01:50] <kzetts> conical: can you ssh to you machine and fire up a vnc service?
[01:50] <doobien> it is not letting me upgrade because it is finding some files that i installed elsewhere than ubuntu's repository, is there a way to find out what they are so i can remove them for force an install over them.
[01:50] <ohsix> nowherefast: it might use the same name, but it wont be the same driver
[01:50] <Ziber> !pulseuadio
[01:50] <kaiyin> is there a way to purge every ppa source?
[01:50] <conical> i believe one is already running
[01:50] <WhiteD> ohsix: on original Ubuntu gnome GUI now too
[01:50] <Ziber> !pulseaudio
[01:50] <conical> or at least
[01:50] <ohsix> WhiteD: ahhh, good deal
[01:50] <conical> when I sshed in
[01:50] <conical> i started it through the gnome gui
[01:50] <kzetts> ok, if there is a vnc service running, then connect to your machine with a vnc client!
[01:50] <nowherefast> ohsix: hah! its showing iwl3945, notorious for problems
[01:50] <nit-wit> doobien, are you backed up
[01:50] <george__> Hi folks. How to fix the following message: The following packages have unmet dependencies: python-couchdb: Quebra: desktopcouch (= 0.2.93) but it is not going to be installed.
[01:50] <usr13> kzetts: Yes you can
[01:51] <kzetts> usr13: can what?
[01:51] <doobien> nit-wit - nope
[01:51] <shane4ubuntu> ceed^: ok, cleared some of the junk out of the side bar, and the apps are there, thanks!  I didn't realize they were in there.
[01:51] <ohsix> kaiyin: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d for the ppa entries, just get their names don't delete them; ppa-puge does downgrades & it needs them there
[01:51] <Spaz_Dynamic> for getting skype, is it recommended to get the ubuntu varient, or just go for skype-static?
[01:51] <nit-wit> doobien, do you think you should be? what if you have a problem that is not fixable?
[01:52] <ohsix> nowherefast: of course, but it's not just the driver; those chips are a pain too
[01:52] <Spaz_Dynamic> I use skype static on my laptop (puppy linux) all the time and don't have any issues whatsoever.
[01:52] <nowherefast> ohsix: what else could it be?
[01:52] <ohsix> nowherefast: they won't work in windows unless you disable the thruoghput boosting thing for routers made in the last 6 years or so either, it's great
[01:53] <kpoman> hi all ! guys after upgrade to 11.04, my radeon DRI on Xorg is broken. Anyone got a quick fix ?
[01:53] <ohsix> nowherefast: what router do you have?
[01:53] <kpoman> kernel 2.6.38-8
[01:53] <itaylor57> Spaz_Dynamic: I use the skype from the ubuntu store
[01:53] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: get skype from the partner repo & it'll get upgrades automatically
[01:53] <nit-wit> doobien, clone your setup before doing anything if you can. http://clonezilla.org/  cover your booty
[01:53] <SinnerNyx> Ok, kinda silly question. Using ubuntu-server. I used to have a custom MOTD, but I don't remember how I did it. I upgraded to 11.04 and whenever I change /etc/motd the changes get wiped when I log in again. I don't want to use a third-party application just to change it once.
[01:53] <Vanishing> anyone having problem with keyboard and mouse?
[01:53] <usr13> george__: apt-get -f install <packagename>
[01:53] <Soothsayer> kzetts: ok , im down to 10 kB/s
[01:53] <nowherefast> ohsix: i have a cheap chinese made router
[01:53] <kpoman> do someone know ?
[01:54] <nit-wit> what
[01:54] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: /etc/issue?
[01:54] <nowherefast> ohsix: it probably doesnt have a name in english : P
[01:54] <Mikaze> I wanna switch from Debian to Ubuntu, and mostly use the text console.  If Ubuntu doesn't have the 2.6.38 kernel with speakup available, I'll be fine.
[01:54] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: grep /etc for bits that you already see on logon :]
[01:54] <Mikaze> I wanna switch from Debian to Ubuntu, and mostly use the text console.  If Ubuntu doesn't have the 2.6.38 kernel with speakup available, I'll be fine.
[01:54] <Vanishing> i cant use my laptop keyboard on natty
[01:55] <nowherefast> ohsix: should i black list the module, then use modprobe to remove the module, then i can use the ndiswrapper gui to install the windows driver? that sound about right?
[01:55] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: issue is for what comes up before login right? good idea with the grep though. I'll get back to you in a sec
[01:55] <Vanishing> can anyone help me with this?
[01:55] <ohsix> nowherefast: if you wanted to do that, but what are you going to do for your netbook? you need to find out what external problems there can be
[01:56] <marrog> hi
[01:56] <ohsix> turning off all optional features of the router is a good start
[01:56] <pfifo> when I install a php module via synaptics do I need to restart apache?
[01:56] <ohsix> pfifo: generally no
[01:56] <nowherefast> ohsix: the chip is crap, but i am at peace with that. since the madwifi driver is made for atheros chipsets i plan on using that one since it has the best ratings on that chipset
[01:56] <KNUBBIG> gnite, wish me luck ;)
[01:56] <pfifo> ohsix, php-gd
[01:57] <ohsix> pfifo: but with php caching things or fastcgi it can get weird
[01:57] <Corbin> Hey, anyone have any experience getting ATI 57xx, 58xx, or 68xx video cards funning at peak performance? Are the drivers available for it up to snuff with Nvidia's yet?
[01:57] <daitheflu03> Hey! Sorry if I'm interrupting another conversation, but anyone else having resolution issues with an acer al2216w monitor?
[01:57] <daitheflu03> It's a 22" widescreen
[01:58] <ohsix> pfifo: if you're using the threaded mpm it might need a restart, i haven't messed with the new (as of 4 years ago lul) stuff in apache 2
[01:58] <ohsix> pfifo: the package likely modified php's configuration and if it's never reloaded during its normal lifecycle you might need to force it
[01:58] <george__> usr13: I did that but it says that depends of another package. I keep tacking the dependencies, and when I finally find one that I can install, it says it will remove A LOT of apps!
[01:59] <thebigroflz> hey are any of you guys good with printers?
[01:59] <ohsix> nowherefast: best ratings? i have two atheros devices and the mac80211 drivers are great
[01:59] <thebigroflz> Im having a headache setting mine up
[01:59] <ohsix> nowherefast: if the problem is know it will end up in module backports as soon as it's available, picking an alternative only picks the worst possible compromise
[02:01] <likki> Is there something better than wine?
[02:01] <ohsix> nowherefast: if you want me to offer anything else i'll need to know something about the router
[02:01] <ohsix> likki: windows
[02:01] <conical> okay, so having installed a vnc server, how do I start an x session running
[02:01] <ohsix> likki: be sure to report a bug if you find one
[02:01] <Corbin> Hey, anyone have any experience getting ATI 57xx, 58xx, or 68xx video cards funning at peak performance? Are the drivers available for it up to snuff with Nvidia's yet?
[02:01] <tase> wow downloading packages for instlaling 11.04 is epicly slow, 8kb/S
[02:01] <conical> essentially, how do I log into my machine without connecting a keyboard to it
[02:02] <conical> so I can use the vnc server
[02:02] <likki> Is there something better than wine besides windows?
[02:02] <ohsix> conical: if you didn't already install ssh or some other remote access, you don't
[02:02] <conical> I have ssh
[02:02] <conical> i can even ssh -X in
[02:02] <jiohdi> likki play on linux
[02:02] <conical> but I need a full session running
[02:02] <hiexpo> tase, proballythousands downloading it system is bogged
[02:02] <pfifo> ohsix, a restart did the trick
[02:02] <ohsix> likki: it's a monoculture, what do you expect there to be a bunch of independent windows implementations so you can pick which one sucks the least? what is your actual problem
[02:02] <ardchoille> !upgrade > ardchoille
[02:02] <conical> to do a couple things that a remote X session won't do well
[02:03] <erik333> wine with pulseaudio patch is good enough for me :P
[02:03] <likki> jiohdi: thanks for the reply. what program do you recommend?
[02:03] <conical> so, using ssh, how do I tell my computer to "log in"
[02:03] <conical> locally
[02:03] <jiohdi> the program is called play on linux
[02:03] <ohsix> they don't have enough engineers to fix sound problems and stuff; that's just reality, give them money or code if you need to
[02:03] <Soothsayer> http://i.imgur.com/1IbQU.png <-- this is my breakdown of partitions.. as you can see I have two fragmented unallocated spaces. How do I make the first unallocated space larger? (by using the unallocated space at the end)
[02:03] <nowherefast> ohsix: ohsix: the router zxv10 w300 but i also have a repeater i use to test the wifi network with and both fail
[02:03] <Soothsayer> Right now, my  sda =  C: + FREE-SPACE-1 + D:  + FREE-SPACE-2
[02:03] <MC8> Howdy; when I try upgrading to 11.04 in the update manager, it tells me "Could not download release notes, please check your internet connection" owtte. How does one upgrade?
[02:04] <likki> jiohdi: thanks for being helpful. that is what i was looking for :)
[02:04] <Soothsayer> I want to make FREE-SPACE-1 larger and put Ubuntu onto that.
[02:04] <ohsix> conical: well you normally see a greeter, but since you're in with ssh, you need to start an x session manually, but even then that's probably not what you want, what are you trying to do?
[02:04] <nowherefast> ohsix: the repeater is a tlwa500g
[02:04] <george__> Good night.
[02:04] <ohsix> a _repeater_, i see
[02:04] <RodneyChops> Hi, just started using Ubuntu, I added an extra HD, its showing up fine, but its a mountable ejectable drive... I want it so apps can use it and what not. No programs can see it..
[02:04] <ohsix> nowherefast: well take the repeater out of the equation, can you reach the router?
[02:05] <zachgretzinger> hello?
[02:05] <Logan_> !ask | zachgretzinger
[02:05] <romulobr> hi, I was just now upgrading to 11.04 but the installer crashed and there was a message telling me the system may have become unusable... is there something I should do? To prevent the system from not working anymore or anything. I confess I 'm a little bit scared right now.
[02:05] <conical> ohsix I'm trying to access some features of gnome that don't work over an ssh -X connection
[02:05] <ohsix> conical: go on
[02:05] <conical> so I need my computer to log in locally
[02:05] <zachgretzinger> Anyone here familiar with Java?
[02:05] <conical> so I can use VNC
[02:05] <Aginor> zachgretzinger, yes
[02:05] <nowherefast> ohsix: not physically but i have admin axx via browser
[02:05] <linuxman410> need help with intel 845ge video on board only have one resolution how do i fix
[02:05] <thebigroflz> How can I install my Lexmark x1150 printer in Ubuntu 11?
[02:06] <romulobr> I work with java zachgretzinger
[02:06] <freeman_> help! how do i move the unity toolbar to the bottom
[02:06] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: I tried sudo find /etc | xargs sudo grep -i 'welcome to ubuntu server'
[02:06] <ohsix> nowherefast: i mean can your devices reasonably speak to it over wifi
[02:06] <zachgretzinger> Ever heard of Jsmooth?
[02:06] <conical> so, using ssh, how do I tell the computer to log in locally so I can use vnc to access the local session
[02:06] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: it got nothing...
[02:06] <nowherefast> ohsix: i can use it in monitor mode perfectly fine
[02:06] <romulobr> ia there a way to "resume" installation? or something I should do...
[02:06] <n-iCe> Question, is there any difference if I install a 64bit os in a 4GB RAM lap instead of 32bits?
[02:06] <nowherefast> ohsix: it doesn't seem to want to work in managed mode though
[02:06] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: motd is generated from other files, let me look real quick from where
[02:06] <Hello71> Anyone know whether the upgrade is cached?
[02:07] <zachgretzinger> Aginor , romulobr - Do you guys know if there's a way to convert a .jar to a .deb?
[02:07] <ubuntumasterz600> How can I get my gnome battery applet to display my battery life. When I right click and click "estimating" and scroll down I see it there, why can't it just display
[02:07] <Hello71> n-iCe: Well, if it doesn't have a 64-bit processor, it won't work. In addition, your video card may take up part of the addressing.
[02:07] <kaiyin> i think a reinstall would be faster than an upgrade.
[02:07] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: dig /etc/update-motd.d/
[02:07] <Corbin> Hey, anyone have any experience getting ATI 57xx, 58xx, or 68xx video cards funning at peak performance? Are the drivers available for it up to snuff with Nvidia's yet? Specifically, I'm aiming to get a 5770 or 5850
[02:07] <Aginor> zachgretzinger, yes, but it is a bit involved and a jar and a deb isn't nearly similar things, so you can't do a straight off conversion
[02:07] <jazzy> n-iCe: as long as you have a PAE enabled kernel (which the ubuntu server kernel is), it's fine to use 32 bit
[02:08] <george__> After tried an upgrade to 11.04, I've got this http://pastie.org/1845644. And my dpkg --audit returns me this http://pastie.org/1845647. Any help, please?
[02:08] <freeman_> how do i move the unity dock?
[02:08] <Soothsayer> Can software raid-1 be setup after installing Ubuntu ?
[02:08] <taglass> freeman_: You don't
[02:08] <freeman_> taglass, :(
[02:08] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: :S How did my grep command not find this :(
[02:08] <jazzy> zachgretzinger: it sounds to me like what you're really asking is how you can run a jar file in ubuntu, is that correct?
[02:08] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it can be set up any time, what do you want to put on it?
[02:08] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: sorry for wasting your time
[02:08] <romulobr> zachgretzinger,  I don't think so man... a jar is nothing but a zip file with a special xml file inside, I don't know what deb's are, but I think they are more than just that.
[02:08] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: the release name isn't part of the file
[02:08] <conical> so, ohsix, any suggestions?
[02:08] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: no waste :]
[02:08] <Soothsayer> ohsix: my data files + mysql databases mostly
[02:09] <IceWewe> what is the easiest way to tell what version of a package is installed?
[02:09] <Vanishing> can anyone help me with my keyboard and mouse problem in natty?
[02:09]  * LAcan if anyone is experiences with KISMET please /msg LAcan . Thanks!
[02:09] <ohsix> freeman_: look in ccsm for the options of the unity plugin, last time looked you could pick the edge and whether it autohid
[02:09] <IceWewe> from the command line
[02:09] <kaiyin> i remember there is a backup tool often compared with rsync, having a name that also starts with r, but i've forgotten it.
[02:09] <ohsix> LAcan: are you using backtrack?
[02:09] <kaiyin> could anyone remind me?
[02:09] <zachgretzinger> Aginor , ahh, I see. Any links? jazzy , No I know how to run a .jar in Ubuntu. romulobr , all I need is the .deb to call the .jar to run it
[02:09] <ohsix> kaiyin: rdiff-backup?
[02:09] <freeman_> ohsix, ccsm?
[02:09] <ohsix> kaiyin: you might look at duplicity / deja-dup (a ui for the former), it's great
[02:09] <taglass> IceWewe: apt-cache show packagename?
[02:09] <Vanishing> my keyboard works in tty console, but not in x
[02:10] <jazzy> a deb is an installation package, not an executable program
[02:10] <kaiyin> ohsix: thanks. that's it.
[02:10] <Soothsayer> kzetts: cancelled my update. And yes, it can be resumed later from that state itself.
[02:10] <ohsix> freeman_: compizconfig-settings-manager, it lets you edit the compiz settings, one of the plugins happens to be unity
[02:10] <Vanishing> what could be the problem?
[02:10] <Aginor> zachgretzinger, http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/
[02:10] <LAcan> ohsix, no ubuntu
[02:10] <ohsix> kaiyin: i highly recommend duplicity even, if you're looking at using rdiff-backup; unless having the last available version available with its original name is a hard requirement
[02:10] <zachgretzinger> Aginor, thanks
[02:10] <Vanishing> join #natty
[02:10] <Hello71> Anyone know whether the packages downloaded during the upgrade are cached?
[02:11] <jazzy> you don't convert a jar to a deb, you package a jar, along with other things to run it, eg a shell script, inside a deb
[02:11] <Soothsayer> Hello71: yes
[02:11] <ohsix> Hello71: they are like all the other packages
[02:11] <Soothsayer> Hello71: if you want to cancel and resume later, you can.
[02:11] <OchoZero9> to install the touch screen version of unity do i install ubuntu-desktop or ubuntu-netbook
[02:11] <sardonyx> i'm having trouble installing 11.04.  during the install it's saying that it cannot install a bootloader, so no grub installed.  I even tried installing it manually but the drive will not boot.  Anyone else experiencing this?
[02:11] <Soothsayer> I just did a few seconds ago and it gave me the message saying so.
[02:11] <linuxman410> can someone help with intel 845ge i only have one resolution and it says monitor unknown when i check it in setting
[02:11] <OchoZero9> i'm on kubuntu btw
[02:11] <zachgretzinger> jazzy, well do you have  a tutorial or a link then?
[02:11] <Aginor> zachgretzinger, bear in mind that you'll probably have to do more things than to just put your .jar in a debian package
[02:11] <ohsix> OchoZero9: if you have a touchscreen you don't need a special version
[02:11] <freeman_> ohsix, cmd not found :( ... i think i found it installed in software center though?
[02:11] <ohsix> OchoZero9: oh kubuntu, then you probably want ubuntu-desktop and to log in with the main session
[02:12] <Soothsayer> ok about to install Natty, bbl :)
[02:12] <ohsix> freeman_: yep, the command is called ccsm, in the package compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:12] <zachgretzinger> Aginor, yeah I've given myself an 8 hour crash course in the art of .jar and .deb today and am realizing that it's pretty involved
[02:12] <OchoZero9> Okay I'll try
[02:12] <Hello71> Soothsayer, ohsix: Are they saved in /var/cache/apt/archives?
[02:12] <Vorenii> how do i open a txt file to edit as a root?
[02:12] <Soothsayer> Hello71: no clue where
[02:12] <zamN> hey, i'm trying to install GCC on my ubuntu server and its giving me: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[02:12] <kaiyin> ohsix: why do you like it so much?
[02:12] <kpoman> hey ! do someone know about radeon ?
[02:12] <kpoman> DRI ?
[02:12] <kpoman> help
[02:12] <ohsix> kaiyin: insanely much faster
[02:12] <jazzy> http://blog.noizeramp.com/2005/08/31/packaging-java-applications-for-ubuntu-and-other-debians/
[02:12] <zamN> I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I'm installing a C compiler and it needs a c compiler? lol
[02:12] <Aginor> zachgretzinger, the jars are pretty easy, doing debs are a bit more involved :D
[02:12] <Hello71> zamN: Yes.
[02:12] <ohsix> kaiyin: plus doing baackups every hour is fast enough to do it every hour :D
[02:13] <zamN> Hello71: so then what should I do? I looked at the pre-req's and it said that i needed an ISO C90 compiler
[02:13] <Soothsayer> ohsix: I should RAID-1 only my data partitions right?
[02:13] <zamN> Hello71: i take it that thats a c compiler?
[02:13] <Aginor> zamN, are you trying to build the compiler from scratch instead of installing the packages?
[02:13] <Hello71> zamN: Install the deb?
[02:13] <IceWewe> taglass, Thanks!
[02:13] <zamN> Aginor Hello71: I just went to http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.6/ and installed it onto my server. then followed the tut
[02:13] <ohsix> Soothsayer: keeping data safe takes a lot more than just raid-n, i'm not really comfortable offering advice
[02:13] <zachgretzinger> Aginor , I tried creating a .deb package that called the .jar using "dpkg -b blahblah.deb" in terminal... It built the .deb but did not do what I needed it to. Either that or I'm just not used to Natty yet
[02:14] <Aginor> !gcc
[02:14] <Vorenii> how do i open a txt file to edit as a root? /usr/share/empathy/empathy-chat-window.ui
[02:14] <Hello71> !packages
[02:14] <ohsix> Soothsayer: i will say though, raid is useless without backups, so if you think it will help you avoid them, that's a common mistake
[02:14] <romulobr> wish me luck... i will try to restart the system
[02:14] <Allen-> Can anyone help me with my screen resolution? My monitor shows up as unknown and I can only use 800 x 600.
[02:14] <Hello71> !packages
[02:14] <Soothsayer> I've never configured software raid before, should I just install Natty on a partition first and then plan the raid part later?
[02:14] <n-iCe> Question, is there any difference if I install a 64bit os in a 4GB RAM lap instead of 32bits?
[02:14] <Hello71> !help
[02:14] <Soothsayer> ohsix: no, im not looking at a substitute for backups
[02:14] <gogeta> zachgretzinger: your just packing the jar file into a deb doing that
[02:14] <Soothsayer> crashes instead.
[02:15] <taglass> n-iCe: you'll be able to access the full 4 GB with a 64 bit os.  You can't w/ a 32 bit os unless it supports PAE.
[02:15] <zachgretzinger> gogeta , that's all I'm trying to do... I want the .jar inside a .deb so I can trick Natty into thinking it's not running a .jar
[02:15] <Blue1> n-iCe: does the laptop support 64 bit hardware?
[02:15] <Hello71> !xyproblem
[02:15] <fester> how do i add a mirror so that my downloads go faster? it's taking 20minutes just to download vim
[02:15] <zamN> Aginor Hello71: So I'll just want to run sudo apt-get install build-essential and then I should have gcc on there?
[02:15] <gogeta> zachgretzinger: umm thers no trick your thinking of a launcher
[02:16] <Hello71> zamN: What do you really want to do?
[02:16] <Aginor> zamba, yes, you might want to install automake too
[02:16] <Aginor> zamba, sorry, mistabbed
[02:16] <gogeta> zachgretzinger: bascily a script along with the jar file to make a menu shortcut and stuff
[02:16] <Hello71> ...
[02:16] <Aginor> zamN, yes, you might want to install automake too
[02:16] <freeman_> ohsix, i am in ccsm, do you recall the setting where it switches it
[02:16] <Vorenii> how do i open a txt file to edit as a root? /usr/share/empathy/empathy-chat-window.ui
[02:17] <taglass> Vorenii: sudo vi /usr/share/empathy/empathy-chat-window.ui
[02:17] <ohsix> freeman_: the big purple logo with Unity on it, that's the unity plugin
[02:17] <Vorenii> but i dont want to use vi, i dont understand it.
[02:17] <Hello71> Vorenii: Open Terminal and type in gksudo gedit /usr/share/empathy/empathy-chat-window.ui
[02:17] <zachgretzinger> gogeta , exactly. All I want to do is to be able to change the icon of the .jar. The reason for this is because .jar packages cannot hold system icons. They have icons contained in the package. The .jar in question has a horrible icon and it looks atrotious in the Unity launcher
[02:17] <Vorenii> yes thats the one, thx Hello71
[02:18] <Hello71> !xy
[02:18] <gogeta> zachgretzinger: well you can make a sh script with any icons and use that script to start the jar
[02:18] <freeman_> ohsix, oh haha, i opened that setting but missed it. thanks :D
[02:19] <cc11rocks> hey Ubuntu
[02:19] <n-iCe> Blue1: I have used a 64bits os before
[02:19] <Corbin> Hey, anyone have any experience getting ATI 57xx, 58xx, or 68xx video cards funning at peak performance? Are the drivers available for it up to snuff with Nvidia's yet?
[02:19] <cc11rocks> have a question...
[02:19] <fcuk112> i am using onboard intel hd2000 gfx with natty - glxgears numbers were very up and down though (23-60fps) when maximised...  any idea?
[02:19] <cc11rocks> i tried to make a JAR in Ubuntu...gave me blank lines
[02:19] <cc11rocks> like i typed in the correct information
[02:20] <soreau> Alright people where the hell is the menu in this natty unity thing. I'm wanting to find monitor properties configuration applet and keyboard preferences etc from sys>prefs like in maverick
[02:20] <cc11rocks> then under it, it had these ">" carrots
[02:20] <cc11rocks> what do i do after that?
[02:20] <fcuk112> soreau, click on the power button
[02:20] <ohsix> soreau: click on the top left then type it in
[02:20] <soreau> fcuk112: The power button?
[02:20] <ohsix> soreau: oh yea
[02:20] <taglass> fcuk112: glxgears is a terrible benchmark
[02:20] <soreau> ohsix: Type what in?
[02:20] <fcuk112> soreau, top right
[02:20] <ohsix> soreau: you can click the power button too, it offers a system settings entry
[02:21] <tase> the unity ... thing... is a WIP i assume
[02:21] <fcuk112> taglass, should it run this slow tho in full screen?  surely it should be smooth?
[02:21] <soreau> tase: Yes, totally
[02:21] <freeman_> ohsix, its saying the new value for the edge binding for the action reveal mode conflicts with flip down of the desktop wall plugin..  then when i set to bottom it doesnt show up :S
[02:21] <gogeta> tase: nope relesed and total fail
[02:21] <cc11rocks> could anyone answer my question?
[02:21] <fester> how do i add a mirror so that my downloads go faster? it's taking 20minutes just to download vim
[02:21] <soreau> They shouldn't have even pushed it out this fast IMO
[02:21] <gogeta> wip would mean its not defult
[02:21] <soreau> gogeta: No it means that it's default and it sucks
[02:21] <taglass> fcuk112: but the numbers are probably capped at your vertical refresh rate.
[02:21] <naiden> when i run vi, ubuntu opens vim, then when i try vim it does not exist and  it proposes install vim, why vim command doesnt works?
[02:21] <Hello71> soreau: Ubuntu is on a fixed 6-month release schedule.
[02:22] <soreau> Hello71: Tell me something useful that I don't know
[02:22] <gogeta> soreau: hehe why im sporting kde now
[02:22] <cc11rocks> I typed in:
[02:22] <cc11rocks> jar cmf program.mf program.jar *.class *.jar
[02:22] <Hello71> naiden: Try vim.tiny.
[02:22] <taglass> naiden: vim-minimal is installed as vi I believe.
[02:22] <cc11rocks> and it just gave me carrots with blank lines underneath
[02:22] <a7ndrew> And Unity was not ready for this release.
[02:22] <cc11rocks> JDK and JRE are properly installed
[02:22] <fcuk112> taglass, if i keep it at the default size, it hits 60fps consistently, as soon as i maximise it...  slows down, very variable - as low as 23fps
[02:22] <ohsix> freeman_: no idea there, i don't use unity
[02:22] <freeman_> ohsix, ok thanks for the help any way :)
[02:22] <ohsix> a7ndrew: then ready for what release?
[02:22] <Hello71> cc11rocks: Try java -jar...
[02:23] <linuxman410> does anyone know about intel 845ge video on board i only have one resolution and it says unknown monitor and says 0 rrefresh rate any way is greatly appreciated
[02:23] <gogeta> fcuk112: i would say turn off compiz but unity screws you there its forced
[02:23] <ohsix> a7ndrew: the netbook version had most of the ideas for unity already in it and used, except it as hacks with maximus and stuff
[02:23] <ric123> Woah, I asked it to include restricted extras during the install and it installed the old 173 NVIDIA driver and now I'm getting weird graphics glitches, anyone else?
[02:23] <katsrc> hey everyone
[02:23] <naiden> Hello71, taglass, but when i type vi, console shows "VIM - Vi IMproved"
[02:23] <cc11rocks> hello71, "java -jar" runs the jar
[02:23] <a7ndrew> ohsix: Well the one after they got it working with multiple monitors would be a good candidate
[02:23] <taglass> fcuk112: no idea then.
[02:23] <cc11rocks> i am trying to create the jar
[02:23] <elsoja> i need help, im desperate
[02:23] <ohsix> a7ndrew: the unity plugin for compiz does almost all the same stuff but it's not a hack
[02:23] <Logan_> !ask | elsoja
[02:23] <elsoja> i'm installing ubuntu in my father'1s pc
[02:23] <taglass> naiden: it'sa stripped down version of vim
[02:23] <elsoja> ok so
[02:23] <ohsix> a7ndrew: you might as well be the only one using multiple monitors, because a lot of people don't on netbooks
[02:23] <jiga> is it known bug that launcher sometimes "forgets" about running application?
[02:24] <naiden> taglass, hmm, ok
[02:24] <v-himanshu> yes
[02:24] <a7ndrew> ohsix I'm not using a netbook
[02:24] <v-himanshu> ok
[02:24] <ohsix> a7ndrew: also testing versions have been available for a long time, you should have spoke up then
[02:24] <a7ndrew> ohsix: Its my work desktop I'm trying to use
[02:24] <katsrc> i'm trying out the Nouveau drivers but can't seem to set a correct resolution
[02:24] <katsrc> it's only using 1024x768
[02:24] <ohsix> a7ndrew: netbooks outsell notebooks outsell desktops
[02:25] <gogeta> a7ndrew: you are now
[02:25] <Logan_> katsrc: /join #nouveau
[02:25] <katsrc> Logan_: thanks
[02:25] <Logan_> katsrc: no problem
[02:25] <elsoja> i'm installing ubuntu in my father's pc, (before i formated the old partition and resized windows one to take all the HD), and now i cant create a partition for ubuntu cause i cand resize the windows partition; besides i cand boot on windows cause i unnistaled grub
[02:25] <ohsix> katsrc: the edid information for your monitor is incorrect or unavailable, you'll have to add modes manually with xrandr
[02:25] <gogeta> ohsix: naa they fell off with the tablet market
[02:25] <a7ndrew> yeah, I've managed to ssh into a working machine and brink up irssi. That's a huge win for linux on the desktop so far.
[02:25] <fester> how do i change the mirrors for ubuntu? i'm only getting like 20kbps i need a more local server
[02:25] <gogeta> ohsix: desktops and labbys are still the biggest sellers
[02:26] <soreau> Why doesn't Alt+F2 work when metacity is running?
[02:26] <nit-wit> elsoja, do you have a recovery or install disc
[02:26] <Tekk_> I have an acer crystal eye webcam that's only working in black and white. It seemed to work before but now it doesn't. yes I'm sure that I have no effects on and the balances are all good
[02:26] <ohsix> gogeta: shrug, people are buying netbooks faster
[02:26] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: just wanted to thank you again, and let you know it worked. have a good night
[02:26] <ohsix> a7ndrew: so use the classic session & what you're familiar with
[02:26] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: great
[02:26] <linuxman410> edid
[02:26] <Logan_> !chmirror | fester
[02:26] <Herbs> elsoja make an extended partition its probably not letting you because you have to many primary if you have windows the recovery stuff usually takes 2 primary partitions
[02:26] <cc11rocks> I'm running Ubuntu 11.04 with a netbook...
[02:26] <Tekk_> using 10.10
[02:26] <elsoja> nit-wit: of windows, no
[02:26] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: props for figuring out the .d thing, most people don't even look around
[02:26] <gogeta> ohsix: naa that was when they first came out its slowed down alot
[02:26] <a7ndrew> ohsix: yeah, think I'll have to.
[02:27] <jiga> is it possible to remove unity menu panel on second monitor?
[02:27] <gogeta> ohsix: being everyone owns one now heh
[02:27] <fester> Logan_: i don't have a gui yet, my synaptics isn't working
[02:27] <sebsebseb> jiga: no don't think so
[02:27] <MarcN> Upgraded my hp2133 notebook to Natty -- after about 2 minutes it hangs.  100% of the time.  Suggestions on debugging?
[02:27] <soreau> Why doesn't Alt+F2 work with metacity in 11.04?
[02:27] <fester> (synaptics the laptop mouse driver)
[02:27] <rigved> hi everyone...using 11.04 with unity 3d...it's really cool :)
[02:27] <fester> so i can't log in
[02:27] <elsoja> Herbs: there's no space for any partition, windows is taking all the hd[
[02:27] <vblando> test
[02:27] <ohsix> gogeta: thats most of what i see at the schools :D
[02:27] <nit-wit> elsoja, you do now boot it to the command and run bootrec.exe /fixmbr  http://neosmart.net/blog/2008/windows-vista-recovery-disc-download/
[02:27] <robin0800> soreau, if metacity is running unity 3d has crashed as it needs compiz
[02:27] <ohsix> gogeta: but still, large target, and cheaper machines with smaller screens are becoming more prevalent
[02:28] <gogeta> ohsix: yea tablets are takeing off
[02:28] <ohsix> gogeta: natty has a first class omap4 target this time around
[02:28] <soreau> robin0800: That was not my question
[02:28] <soreau> Why doesn't Alt+F2 work with metacity in 11.04?
[02:28] <elsoja> nit-wit: it's xp
[02:28] <nit-wit> elsoja, you can use gparted but the W7 disk manager is suggested
[02:28] <robin0800> soreau, it does
[02:28] <gogeta> ohsix: iv seen a few omap on ebay the launch ones
[02:28] <Logan_> soreau: it should
[02:28] <ohsix> soreau: are you using metacity? long story short, the panel applet with the application/places/system menu on it does that
[02:28] <soreau> robin0800: Why didn't you say that in the first place?
[02:29] <elsoja> nit-wit: gparted cant rezise
[02:29] <soreau> ohsix: You mean gnome-panel has to be running
[02:29] <conical> ohsix, did I miss your answer?
[02:29] <robin0800> sor or unity 2d
[02:29] <elsoja> nit-wit: "unsable to read the contents of this filesystem"
[02:29] <elsoja> nit-wit: *unable
[02:29] <Vorenii> Are there in ubuntu ways to just like in Windows 7 show my load on the processor and memory?
[02:30] <diglett> hi all, I'm having a power issue. i've got ubuntu installed on an Asus G71X, and everytime I unplug it, ubuntu locks up. It works fine under windows so i'm guessing it's not a hardware issue. Any ideas for what I should try?
[02:30] <soreau> ohsix: Yes you're right, thanks.
[02:30] <soreau> I can see the menu now too, whew
[02:30] <a7ndrew> awesome, I disabled the unity plugin from about:config, now that's gone, but I've also go no gnome panels. How do I logout?
[02:30] <soreau> What a constricting piece of garbage unity is
[02:30] <ohsix> conical: to do what you want to do you need to use xvnc
[02:30] <gogeta> soreau: cough kde
[02:30] <ohsix> soreau: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:31] <Herbs> elsoja boot windows and shut it down properly maybe run a chkdsk on it sounds like te windows partition has not been unmounted cleanly
[02:31] <conical> x11vnc, correct?
[02:31] <ohsix> a7ndrew: there are no panels in unity, just something that looks like one
[02:31] <robin0800> soreau, unity 2d works fine
[02:31] <nit-wit> elsoja, boot a live Ubuntu cd and follow the next pastebin to install lilo it will boot XP.
[02:31] <Guest50068> just installed 11.04 trying to use the clearlooks theme..it works on many windows, but not on fire foxes windows?
[02:31] <Spaz_Dynamic> Why doesn't apt-get / synaptic / updates / kpackagekit / whatever download and install things as soon as they're downloaded, unless they're dependent on another download that hasn't completed yet? It would be more efficient that way...
[02:31] <ohsix> Guest50068: firefox does its  own ui
[02:31] <elsoja> Herbs: i cant boot windows
[02:32] <Spaz_Dynamic> such as if you have a list of 20 things, it waits til they're all downloaded before installing them
[02:32] <ohsix> Guest50068: clearlooks will apply to buttons and some things, but not overall
[02:32] <Herbs> elsoja what about safe mode?
[02:32] <Xylch> Does unity use notify-osd?
[02:32] <Soothsayer> I'm on the Natty live cd right now.. it has detected my wifi right thought not sound or the dual monitors..
[02:32] <Soothsayer> should I just go ahead and install it ?
[02:32] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: because it extracts all of the package information to do an atomic application of the packages
[02:32] <freeman_> where is my show desktop button in unity?
[02:32] <Guest50068> ohsix...can I change it some how on firefox?
[02:32] <nit-wit> elsoja, http://pastebin.com/E48YvGxw
[02:32] <elsoja> Herbs: neither
[02:32] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: it's faster, and it needs all the packages to apply to do it
[02:33] <Soothsayer> I believe the right drivers for graphic card, etc can be configured after installation ?
[02:33] <ohsix> Guest50068: not in a manner that will probably get you what you want :\
[02:33] <Spaz_Dynamic> ohsix: "atomic application" ?
[02:33] <elsoja> nit-wit: can i do this from a live cd?
[02:33] <Herbs> elsoja have you fixed the boot record or tried installing grub?
[02:33] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: done in one go, or not done at all
[02:33] <m1ck3y> I'm experiencing extremely slow download speeds  (both wired and wireless). They're less that 1/4 the speed the same computer gets on Windows, where do I look for help?
[02:33] <Guest50068> oh six..just hoping to get the closing x on the right :)
[02:33] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: installing 100 packages one a ta  time is different than installing them in one step
[02:33] <elsoja> Herbs: i coundt install grub
[02:33] <gogeta> m1ck3y: the repos are flodded so it may just be slowness of the internet
[02:34] <linuxman410> anyone know about intel graphic cards
[02:34] <m1ck3y> gogeta: Oh ok, thanks for the heads up.
[02:34] <Tekk_> linuxman410: what about them?
[02:34] <conical> ohsix, so, a simpler question
[02:34] <diemos> erm, quick question: How do you un-zoom? I somehow triggered the stupid accessability zoom function and can't get ou tof it lol
[02:34] <ohsix> Guest50068: that'd be something your window decorator needs to be told to do; either from compiz or if it's metacity, in it's gconf settings
[02:34] <Slimcea_boy> Can I use an desktop install iso so my upgrade doesn't have to go to network, or does that only work with the alternate CD?
[02:34] <Herbs> elsoja dont look good then Im afraid :(
[02:34] <conical> I have partitions that I could access just fine if I had mounted them using gnome
[02:34] <nit-wit> elsoja, read the paste from a live ubuntu cd open softwrae sorces, you may have to right click the menu to tick it on open the software sources 1st tab 2nd box universe click active let it reload and follow the commands..
[02:34] <conical> I can't do it using a gnome session (i've tried)
[02:34] <conical> remotely
[02:35] <ohsix> Slimcea_boy: only the alternate
[02:35] <Hello71> diemos: Hold Super and rotate the mouse scroll wheel.
[02:35] <linuxman410> Tekk i have a 845 ge that only has one resolution and no monitor listed how do i fix
[02:35] <Slimcea_boy> ohsix: ok, can you point me at the instructions for doing this, I can't seem to find them :\
[02:35] <ohsix> Slimcea_boy: the livecd is cloned to the systen with a regular livecd, the alternate has packages on it
[02:35] <MarcN1> wrt my Natty hang on hp2133 notebook, it may be related to wireless.  Disabling wifi seems to stop it from hanging -- and severely limiting its usefulness...
[02:35] <diemos> Hello71: orz, I thought I'd tried that. Thanks.
[02:36] <ohsix> MarcN1: what wifi hw?
[02:37] <MarcN1> ohsix: checking.
[02:37] <andrew__> I have a question. What does Upgrading Ubuntu do?
[02:37] <Xylch> Does unity use notify-osd? I am not getting any pop-ups
[02:37] <Herbs> upgrades it :) define upgrading
[02:38] <ohsix> andrew__: it changes the release name and switches to that releases package versions
[02:38] <MarcN1> ohsix: Broadcom BCM4311 a/b/g rev 02
[02:38] <andrew__> Clicking Upgrade in the update manager
[02:38] <tase> is there a way to get the right alt to change workspaces with a us international layout with dead keys ?
[02:38] <PovAddict> will there be an Ubuntu variant with GNOME, just like Kubuntu has KDE?
[02:38] <Hello71> PovAddict: ?
[02:38] <MK``> That's what everyone has in the back of their head PovAddict: Gubuntu 11.11
[02:38] <MarcN1> ohsix: enabling wifi, to see if that causes a hang
[02:39] <gogeta> PovAddict: there is
[02:39] <gogeta> PovAddict: just not a offical kindda like lubuntu isnt
[02:39] <Herbs> PovAddict even if there isnt this is ?Linux you can do what you want with it if they never realease another gnome distro you can always install gnome
[02:39] <ohsix> MarcN1: ah, you could try installing bcmwl-kernel-source, it's the proprietary driver, but i've had luck with it on my netbook (namely it doesn't drop connections in a manner that would seem to suggest the wifi chipset is overheating)
[02:39] <gogeta> PovAddict: the lxde varent
[02:39] <MarcN1> ohsix: yup Broadcom BCM4311 wifi borks natty on my notebook
[02:39] <MarcN1> ohsix: I'd be happy with no hangs!
[02:40] <PovAddict> seems weird that GNOME is now less officially-supported than XFCE... :/
[02:40] <thanos> hello!
[02:40] <gogeta> PovAddict: http://ugr.teampr0xy.net/
[02:40] <Herbs> again this is Linux who cares about the gui :)
[02:40] <taglass> PovAddict: The default environment is gnome.. How is that less supported?
[02:40] <PovAddict> taglass: that's not gnome, that's unity
[02:40] <ohsix> MarcN1: was that an upgrade or a new install? if the former it might like a firmware update
[02:40] <thanos> i have problem with fsck.btrfs
[02:41] <gogeta> taglass: its unity bascily a relly relly bad ui
[02:41] <ohsix> PovAddict: gnome is 99.99% of what makes ubuntu go
[02:41] <OchoZero9> ohsix: i installed ubuntu-desktop. After I restarted I selected ubuntu and all I saw was Icons and a background. Alt F2 didn't even work. Now I'm in ubuntu classic (no effect)
[02:41] <robin0800> PovAddict, and classic is gnome
[02:41] <gogeta> taglass: that uses gnome
[02:41] <taglass> PovAddict: Unity is simply the windowmanager.  When you use compiz insteda of metacity is it not still gnome?
[02:41] <ohsix> PovAddict: unity is 0.001%, and it's a plugin for an alternate window manager, compiz
[02:41] <thanos> i can't see  my data in my partition ? any idea?
[02:41] <MK``> Compiz is the window manager, Unity is the shell, to be more precise.
[02:41] <PovAddict> even before they called it unity, ubuntu was modifying the hell out of gnome upstream
[02:41] <gogeta> yes and the shell is everything
[02:41] <Herbs> regardless of what the distro is released with you can always install whatever desktop you want and remove any you dont guys this aintgg windows
[02:42] <tase> How do I reorder the close / minimize / maximize buttons in gconf-editor
[02:42] <OchoZero9> If you look in the compiz website .. it's now going to be easier to port apps from mac windows and linux
[02:42] <ohsix> MK``: the shell is still separate, but it does meld a few things; it's just a plugin for compiz
[02:42] <MarcN1> ohsix: natty &  wifi works on my old hp nc6000 just fine.
[02:42] <gogeta> the rest is just gtk
[02:42] <PovAddict> OchoZero9: ?
[02:42] <ohsix> OchoZero9: why would that be?
[02:42] <robin0800> and metacity is  the window manager for unity 2d
[02:42] <ohsix> PovAddict: no they weren't (modifying)
[02:42] <r000t> ohsix: did you ever get those pastes?
[02:42] <MK``> Ooh I didn't know what ohsix
[02:43] <MarcN1> ohsix: and not the hp elitebook 8530w which I think uses a similar broadcom.
[02:43] <ohsix> PovAddict: in fact you can still go look at the patches ubuntu maintains outside of gnome and that they couldn't get upstream
[02:43] <george__> After tried an upgrade to 11.04, I've got this http://pastie.org/1845644. And my dpkg --audit returns me this http://pastie.org/1845647. Any help, please?
[02:43] <OchoZero9> in win 8 aero is going to be worked by compiz , i don't understand those technical terms though
[02:43] <ohsix> MarcN1: dunno, chances are it's the bios or something; crashing problems are really lame
[02:43] <MK``> Ubuntu will be Gnome 2 with Unity; the inevitably Gubuntu will be Gnome 3 :P
[02:43] <PovAddict> OchoZero9: dude, that was an April Fools joke
[02:43] <OchoZero9> oh ok
[02:43] <OchoZero9> got me
[02:43] <MarcN1> ohsix: technically a hang ;-)
[02:43] <Guest74099> does anyone know why my memory may be pegging out, I have had issues lately with webpages freezing and it says the system may be out of memory, so i actually checked this time and cpu2 was maxed out at 100%?
[02:43] <OchoZero9> you can still make ugly gtk apps
[02:43] <ohsix> MarcN1: really lame that they crash for one, but also generally really lame as to the root cause
[02:44] <Herbs> Linux is a shell the gui is just a frontend for the shell you can use any you want so why moan
[02:44] <OchoZero9> any how
[02:44] <ohsix> Herbs: linux is a kernel, what you think of the shell is probably a getty on one of the virtual terminals
[02:44] <OchoZero9> How do I get unity touch?
[02:44] <gogeta> Herbs: why did gnome and cannel decide to screw up gnome
[02:44] <Herbs> oshix Im putting it in simple terms :)
[02:44] <robin0800> remove unity and install gnome3 if you wish
[02:44] <ManateeLazyCat> Hi all, I install gnome3 on Ubuntu 11.04, how to remove "Windows key" from global binding? Since Alt+F1 same as "Windows key"
[02:45] <ohsix> OchoZero9: afaik there are no special steps, if unity 3d doesn't run on your device you can always try unity2d
[02:45] <Jon4248> okay, so question, I have unreal 2004 installed. When I create a launcher on my desktop to ut2004-bin it doesn't launch...nothing happens. However, if I open it from the ut2004/system dir the game will open...what am I doing wrong?
[02:45] <gogeta> Herbs: questions with no answers there
[02:45] <ManateeLazyCat> Thaks! :)
[02:45] <ohsix> gogeta: what?
[02:45] <OchoZero9> why wouldn't it run ?
[02:45] <gogeta> ohsix: gnome shell and unity both sucking
[02:45] <MarcN1> ohsix: ah, the nc6000 wifi is an Atheros.
[02:45] <ohsix> gogeta: you know gnome is a huge collection of software, the window manager and nautilus are small but important constituent parts
[02:45] <thanos> someboby knows about fsck.btrfs? i cant se my data in my disk after update to 11.04
[02:45] <Ziber> So I had a lot of trouble with my audio working in ubuntu 10.10, now I'm trying to get my built in mic on my toshiba laptop to work. Is there a group I should be added to for this to work?
[02:45] <ohsix> gogeta: that's your opinion, and it doesn't bear repeating; go talk to them about how you think you can improve them
[02:46] <ohsix> MarcN1: ah, ath9k? i have an ath5k too and it works great
[02:46] <Herbs> gogeta I have no idea Im not an Ubuntu user Im a red hat admin ,  I just happened to pop in here yesterday and found the people where nice
[02:46] <gogeta> ohsix: fork gnome 2 problem fixed
[02:46] <Flynsarmy> Has anyone noticed that with the new scrollbars you can't click on, for instance, the bottom half of the scrollbar when the scroller is at the top anymore? because no scroller appears down there when you mouse over
[02:46] <ManateeLazyCat> Anybody know how to remove "windows key" from gnome3?
[02:46] <Macer> know this might sounds like a bad one but.. in order to change the name of a grp all i do is edit /etc/group and rename the group?
[02:46] <MarcN1> ohsix: Atheros AR5001X+, which is working fine.
[02:46] <ohsix> gogeta: why do you need to? do you even know what the terms you're using are?
[02:46] <ManateeLazyCat> Or how to customize keyshort in Gnome3, any tool?
[02:46] <sushemsu> is there a way to get proprietary drivers on my toshiba on board graphics to get graphics working all cool liuke
[02:46] <OchoZero9> why wouldn't unity 3d run on my computer? I don't have agraphics card and starcraft II runs perfectly in 3d mode
[02:46] <nowherefast> ohsix: i tested different drivers on the netbook (eee) and the ath9k driver works in ubuntu 9.04 but not in 10.10... weird huh
[02:46] <ChronicSyncope> upon update to 11.04 i can't get desktop cube working. every time i try to start it, it breaks the gnome window manager
[02:46] <ohsix> gogeta: gnome3 is a deprecation and migration effort largely centered around gtk and the libraries nearly always used alongside it
[02:46] <gogeta> ohsix: becouse gnome 3 droped metacity and are using gnome shell
[02:47] <MarcN1> ohsix:  my corp laptop may use broadcom, not upgrading that until natty is out a bit longer
[02:47] <ohsix> gogeta: there is also gnome-shell
[02:47] <ohsix> gogeta: no they didn't
[02:47] <Jon4248> okay, so question, I have unreal 2004 installed. When I create a launcher on my desktop to ut2004-bin it doesn't launch...nothing happens. However, if I open it from the ut2004/system dir the game will open...what am I doing wrong?
[02:47] <Jon4248> im using 11.04 btw
[02:47] <kusanagi> how do you use your second monitor in a dual monitor setup with unity? when I move windows to edge of one screen, they maximize in the middle of the screen :S
[02:47] <ohsix> nowherefast: dunno if that's weird, i do know there was a firmware transition in that timeframe
[02:47] <soreau> ohsix: Don't OT me when I'm talking about unity
[02:47] <gogeta> ohsix: well i dont care anyways its just gonna spell doom for gtk
[02:47] <ohsix> soreau: it is offtopic, we support it, we don't care what you think about it
[02:47] <OchoZero9> why wouldn't unity 3d run on my computer? I don't have agraphics card and starcraft II runs perfectly in 3d mode
[02:47] <ohsix> gogeta: you don't know what you are talking about, at all
[02:48] <soreau> ohsix: You don't support unity here??
[02:48] <a7ndrew> kusanagi: I gave up, its not ready: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10712593
[02:48] <gogeta> ohsix: you think that
[02:48] <ohsix> gogeta: gtk is a library software uses, it's not going anywhere
[02:48] <soreau> ohsix: The default wm scheme in ubuntu 11.04?
[02:48] <Herbs> if you need a gui so bad why use Linux?
[02:48] <Jon4248> OchoZero9, what video card do you have?
[02:48] <ohsix> gogeta: i know that, you are making statements and i am reading them
[02:48] <Ziber> So I had a lot of trouble with my audio working in ubuntu 10.10, now I'm trying to get my built in mic on my toshiba laptop to work. Is there a group I should be added to for this to work?
[02:48] <ohsix> soreau: "unity sucks" is not a support question
[02:48] <Soothsayer> ok someone please help me here. I'm on the install screen. I want to dual boot Ubuntu with Windows 7.. I created an ext4 partition and picked it during installation. Now what do I pick for "Device for booter loader installation?"
[02:48] <soreau> ohsix: I didn't say it sucked
[02:48] <OchoZero9> I don't have any
[02:48] <gogeta> ohsix: gtk is part of the gnome ui and if people dump gnome in mass due to unity and gnome shell everyone will start uing anything else
[02:48] <soreau> I said it was a constricting piece of garbage
[02:48] <OchoZero9> I think it's built in the processor
[02:49] <ohsix> gogeta: yea just like everyone did last time, quality matters
[02:49] <ChronicSyncope> I'm in 11.04 with unity off, and when i try to start desktop cube from compiz, my window manager dies and nothing works.
[02:49] <aaron-wayne> can anyone help me with the memory issue?
[02:49] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, your hard drive
[02:49] <OchoZero9> Jon4248:  I think it's built in the processor
[02:49] <gogeta> ohsix: acully they did when kde whent downhill and gnome got good
[02:49] <Herbs> is 11.04 LTS?
[02:49] <soreau> ohsix: As a support helper, you should ask why one thinks that and try to help them with the specific problem they're having
[02:49] <Bluebill-Wolf> i need a hand with something
[02:49] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: isn't that awesome, i've had a hell of a time with compiz .9 too
[02:49] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: I have two hard drives now.
[02:49] <gogeta> ohsix: same for e17
[02:49] <AndrewMC> !lts
[02:49] <soreau> ohsix: By saying "#ubuntu-offtopic" that
[02:49] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, haven't solved the problem?
[02:49] <gogeta> ohsix: i have been around longer then you think
[02:49] <ohsix> gogeta: you are thinking of a past that didn't exist
[02:49] <taglass> gogeta: To be fair most of the peopel I've seen that said they were leaving gnome were going to xfce... Guess what toolkit that uses? :)
[02:49] <soreau> ohsix: By saying "#ubuntu-offtopic" that's just like saying you know it is just that
[02:49] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:49] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: one is the one with Windows 7 and where I also plan to install Ubuntu OS... the other is for data only.
[02:49] <gogeta> ohsix: or even xfree
[02:49] <soreau> ohsix: admittance
[02:49] <Jon4248> oh, it may not be supported. maybe find out what name/model of it is
[02:49] <ohsix> gogeta: do you remember qpl?
[02:49] <Herbs> Andrew I know what LTS is thanks I asked if 11.04 is
[02:50] <ohsix> gogeta: and you remember how it was a joke that e17 was never finished
[02:50] <robin0800> ChronicSyncope, if your in classic that may not use compiz but metacity
[02:50] <AndrewMC> Herbs: no it's not
[02:50] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, how do i at least restart the wm?
[02:50] <Flynsarmy> Herbs: 12.04 is the next LTS
[02:50] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, the install will add windows 7 to grub boot menu
[02:50] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:50] <zma> Does 32-bit desktop edition of Ubuntu 10.04 have Qt libraries installed by default? I can only find references that netbook edition has.
[02:50] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:50] <gogeta> ohsix: they all had there high  useage times
[02:50] <ChronicSyncope> robin0800, classic always used to use compiz...
[02:50] <extraclassic> gogeta: have you tried kde 4.6
[02:50] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: it should have already, but eh, you could try alt+f2 and typing in compiz --replace
[02:50] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:50] <Herbs> Andrew and Fly thanks
[02:50] <gogeta> extraclassic: yes pretty nice
[02:50] <ohsix> gogeta: good thing it's not a poll huh
[02:50] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: ok so im picking the "hard drive" which has Windows 7.. and NOT any partition under it.
[02:50] <Soothsayer> right?
[02:50] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:50] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, yes.
[02:51] <Bluebill-Wolf> how do you do the recovary off an instalation disk?
[02:51] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, nope... still nothing.
[02:51] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: /dev/sdb ATA ST... (500.1 GB)
[02:51] <Flynsarmy> ChronicSyncope: it still does. I've got ccsm installed and was mucking around with the settings last night. after removing unity that is
[02:51] <extraclassic> gogeta: was gonna say if you're unhappy with unity & gnome 3, kde 4.6 is better than gnome 2.32
[02:51] <ohsix> soreau: 18:30 < soreau> What a constricting piece of garbage unity is
[02:51] <IdleOne> !repeat | Bluebill-Wolf
[02:51] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, this is for the boot loader right?
[02:51] <ChronicSyncope> Flynsarmy, I'm using classic, so unity should be off... hopefully
[02:51] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: yes
[02:51] <ohsix> soreau: #ubuntu-offtopic is for those statements if you would like to keep making them, particularly the adjective is useless to anyone in here
[02:51] <gogeta> extraclassic: using it on my netbook
[02:51] <ohsix> extraclassic: lawl
[02:51] <kusanagi> a7ndrew thanks, any bug link i can follow up?
[02:51] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, then yes. you'll see what i mean when you reboot after the install.
[02:52] <ohsix> gogeta: oh you've shown your cards then, you really do not know anything and merely believe you're above the fray
[02:52] <Flynsarmy> ChronicSyncope: can't help you with the cube thing - i don't use it. just wanted to mention that compiz seems to work fine - was tweeking madly to get things working/looking right and nothing seemed to break
[02:52] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: ok.
[02:52] <Jon4248> it just shows a simple text menu after with ubuntu or windows 7 (loader)
[02:52] <soreau> ohsix: What adjective?
[02:52] <thanos> someboby knows about fsck.btrfs? i cant se my data in my disk after update to 11.04
[02:52] <ChronicSyncope> Flynsarmy, i don't even have cube turned on, i just can't get my wm to re-appear
[02:52] <gogeta> ohsix: what hat my netbook runs kde plasma
[02:52] <lainy> After upgrading to the latest Ubuntu, I cannot even use nano on rxvt-unicde. I receive the error "Error opening terminal: rxvt-256color.
[02:52] <gogeta> that
[02:52] <ohsix> soreau: i quoted you, i trust that you know what an adjective is
[02:52] <IdleOne> ohsix soreau gogeta please move the meta discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:52] <soreau> ohsix: You're not taking the correct action. You're shrugging off unity support
[02:52] <gogeta> ohsix: thats after i ripped out unity
[02:52] <arand_> thanos: What kind of btrfs setup did you have before?
[02:53] <Bluebill-Wolf> kinda need a hand here
[02:53] <Bluebill-Wolf> >.>
[02:53] <a7ndrew> kusanagi: good question, there's got to be something on Launchpad
[02:53] <ohsix> soreau: i am not, what can i do to help you with a constricting piece of garbage? i think there's not much i can do! if you had forme dit as a question i could have said something
[02:53] <arand_> thanos: What is hapening with fsck currently?
[02:53] <brewster> hey im running ubuntu 10.10 and i want to know this before i upgrade: i have graphics and wireless drivers installed. will i lose them when i upgrade?
[02:53] <jrib> so much non-support talk :(
[02:53] <ohsix> soreau: you thanked me last time i answered a question you actually asked
[02:53] <gogeta> arand_: what abought btrfs?
[02:53] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: one more confusing. I'm picking the ext4 partition which I made a few minutes earlier using gparted. Do I have to set the Mount point ?
[02:53] <thanos> arand_, i had /home before and now i cant see my data
[02:53] <MK``> !offtopic
[02:53] <IdleOne> ohsix: Please drop it.
[02:54] <lainy> After upgrading to the latest Ubuntu, I cannot even use nano on rxvt-unicde. I receive the error "Error opening terminal: rxvt-256color." Does anyone know how I can resolve this issue? I tried reinstalling urxvt but that did not help. Thanks for any help.
[02:54] <elsoja> when i start to install ubuntu the opition to split the hd with windows do not appear, and i cant resize windows partition
[02:54] <Andrey_BTI> Hi! I'm sorry, my English is vary bad. I have a problem: i can't connect to windows network.
[02:54] <atpa8a> hello
[02:54] <atpa8a> congrats on the release
[02:54] <MK``> Andrey_BTI: what error do you get?
[02:54] <thanos> arand_,  its problem from ubuntu 11.04 after update
[02:54] <ManateeLazyCat> Damn, i hate Gnome3 eat my "windows key"
[02:54] <Herbs> soothsayer yes you need to set the mount pint as /
[02:54] <arand> thanos: Right, and this home was created in maverick, and you have mad an install re-using /home, or just an in-place upgrade?
[02:54] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, yes, set the root (ubuntu install files) to  /  and i personally make a /home parition as well
[02:54] <atpa8a> anyone have any issues with broadcom wifi?..
[02:55] <coz_> ManateeLazyCat,  are you on gnome3  or ubuntu 11.04?
[02:55] <brewster> i did atpa8a
[02:55] <mickster04> MK``: Andrey_BTI's prpoblem sounds like a samba issue
[02:55] <brewster> i can help you
[02:55] <ohsix> atpa8a: can you rephrase that in the form of a question
[02:55] <Andrey_BTI> I connect to winnetwork, go to workgroup, connect to server, then press BACK, and i didn't see anything
[02:55] <ManateeLazyCat> coz_: Gnome-shell with Ubuntu-11.04
[02:55] <a7ndrew> kusanagi: Unity dual monitor bugs, pick your favourite! #5927116 #685179 #742020 #755357 #752612 #731322 #769650
[02:55] <Soothsayer> Herbs, Jon4248 : ok, so I picked Ext4 File Journaling System and set the mount point as /
[02:55] <Herbs> it dont matter what partition you have the mount point on the partition you have ubuntu installed has to be /
[02:55] <Jon4248> a7ndrew, lol
[02:55] <coz_> ManateeLazyCat,  ooo   ok...
[02:55] <Andrey_BTI> not samba - first time i can see server, then a can't
[02:55] <elsoja> when i start to install ubuntu the opition to split the hd with windows do not appear, and i cant resize windows partition. what can i do
[02:55] <robin0800> Soothsayer, yes you must if your going to install on it
[02:55] <theholder> lol
[02:55] <mickster04> !broadcom | atpa8a
[02:55] <MK``> yeah most likely mickster0. Andrey_BTI, can you connect to it successfully via direct IP?
[02:55] <kins> is ubuntu 11.04 worth updateing too
[02:55] <atpa8a> ohsix: it just doesn't work :P why? worked in 10.10
[02:56] <thanos> firtst mad update and after new install
[02:56] <Andrey_BTI> but a can connect by VONNECT TO SERVER
[02:56] <Soothsayer> Herbs, Jon4248 : ye, I want to keep all 'data' files on the other disk... so that means I should mount /home and /var onto the other disk?
[02:56] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, yup. you didnt delete your win 7 partition right?
[02:56] <ohsix> atpa8a: which one is it? you probably need to install firmware
[02:56] <Soothsayer> How should I be going about this.
[02:56] <thanos> arand_, firtst mad update and after new install
[02:56] <ManateeLazyCat> coz_: I binding so many "windows key shortcut" on Emacs, i hate Gnome3 binding "windows key", do you know any way to remove "windows key" ? Since I can use Alt+F1 too.
[02:56] <arand> thanos: Do this "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt -o defaults,subvolid=0"
[02:56] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, yes
[02:56] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: no I did not! :-| *cross checks* .. no i didn't! p
[02:56] <Jon4248> :)
[02:56] <coz_> ManateeLazyCat,  not that I am aware of  no...
[02:56] <Herbs> soothsayer they dont have to be on different disks just use different partitions
[02:56] <MK``> Andrey_BTI I actually had a similar issue and it ended up being a bug in nautilus. I'd make sure the workgroup is correct, the permissions on the share are correct, etc.
[02:56] <atpa8a> ohsix: in 10.10 i could use the BCM driver
[02:57] <arand> thanos: sdXY representing your /home btrfs partition.
[02:57] <Soothsayer> Herbs: well, I don't have any partitions.. but I have a lot of unallocated space on the other disk.
[02:57] <ManateeLazyCat> coz_: Even hacking way? I guess gnome developer must have some code do those?
[02:57] <spungo> If this is the *Official* suport channel, can I assume Canonical staff are on-line here? If so, how am I to distinguish between staff and "n00bz"?
[02:57] <ohsix> atpa8a: in 11.04 you can too, but you should try the included drivers
[02:57] <atpa8a> trying fwcutter
[02:57] <Ziber> could someone explain to me what pulseaudio is exactly?
[02:57] <Jon4248> we
[02:57] <ohsix> spungo: they are not
[02:57] <Andrey_BTI> And second time i try to connect to winnetwork - i can't see anything, nor a share folders, nor a server list
[02:57] <ManateeLazyCat> coz_: or they hard-coding it?
[02:57] <ohsix> spungo: if they are they will not be here in that capacity
[02:57] <gogeta> spungo: communty help no cannel
[02:57] <Herbs> soothsayer there is no issues with puting them on another disk so yes go ahead
[02:57] <atpa8a> ohsix: how do you mean "included"?
[02:57] <RedLance> Ok, I'm trying to make an .iso image of a bootable dvd, and I'm using dd if=/dev/sr1 of=filename.iso and it keeps giving me an I/O error and copies 16kB...the drive is not mounted.  Any help please?
[02:57] <thanos> arand_, in sda3
[02:57] <shane4ubuntu> how do we get special effects for unity?
[02:57] <Herbs> have your rootfs on your main disk and make the mount point /
[02:58] <mickster04> shane4ubuntu: compiz
[02:58] <Soothsayer> Herbs, Jon4248 : So /home and /var go to two separate partitions on another disk?
[02:58] <MK``> Andrey_BTI: if it worked fine, you didn't change any settings and it suddenly stopped working, it may be the nautilus bug I encountered
[02:58] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, install ccsm
[02:58] <thanos> arand_, i dont want to make it home again but only to see the data
[02:58] <ohsix> atpa8a: well the kernel has drivers, it needs the firmware; but theres also bcmwl-kernel-source which is the proprietary driver, i thought you were talking about the latter, but then you mentioned fwcutter
[02:58] <MK``> because I could use other file managers and it worked fine
[02:58] <Herbs> soothsayer yes totally no probs in doing that
[02:58] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, if thats what you want.
[02:58] <shane4ubuntu> mickster04: like before, just enable them through the appearance menu
[02:58] <arand> thanos: Ok, if you mount that with th eoptions I gave, and look in /mnt, do you see your old data along with the new @home subvolume?
[02:58] <atpa8a> ohsix: oh :) i don't care which ever way it works
[02:58] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, some people just make a  /  mount
[02:58] <Soothsayer> Herbs, Jon4248 : /var is where MySQL, etc store the databases if I'm not mistaken ?
[02:58] <brewster> i have graphics and wireless drivers installed. will i lose them when i upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[02:59] <Andrey_BTI> I try connect third time and i recieve messages - i can't recieve shared folders. I install ubuntu 11 now, a didn't change anythings
[02:59] <atpa8a> ohsix: so far neither method is working
[02:59] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, **shrugs***
[02:59] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: ?
[02:59] <ohsix> atpa8a: ok, well in the fwcutter package theres a script that will install it for you
[02:59] <Jon4248> Dont use MySQL lol
[02:59] <mickster04> shane4ubuntu: ?
[02:59] <celeryman> ubuntu 11.04 shotwell does nothing when selected to open?
[02:59] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: oh c'mon, thats unjustified...
[02:59] <robin0800> brewster, it depends on the hardware
[02:59] <ohsix> atpa8a: dpkg -L b43-fwcutter will list the files installed & the script's name will be in there
[02:59] <shane4ubuntu> I just looked, and it isn't there mickster04, I guess I need to install compiz?
[02:59] <Herbs> soothsaye sometimes it does depends on the build if you use Plesk it will be var but you can always sym link it to another partition if you run out of space
[03:00] <Andrey_BTI> and server with russian name don't showing correctly, language updates was installed
[03:00] <taglass> Soothsayer: I think he was saying that he doesn't use it.
[03:00] <Soothsayer> taglass: then it wouldn't have needed the 'lol' :)
[03:00] <arand> gogeta: btrfs does not need an ext boot for grub, however it will report an error which you will have to press out of on each boot if you do not have one.
[03:00] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, lol...google tells me yes http://www.google.ca/#hl=en&biw=994&bih=898&q=%2Fvar+mysql&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&fp=1246a8259bf2a1fa
[03:00] <brewster> nvidia graphics controller and broadcom wireless drivers
[03:00] <Soothsayer> ok
[03:00] <Helpme> does 11.4 fix the pulse audio stuttering problem in 10.10
[03:00] <Nightshade_> updating to natty now
[03:01] <Soothsayer> ok now im totally confused as to how much size to give each
[03:01] <Bronz> Oh, lots of traffic. I hope I get some attention. I just downloaded 11.04 and tried to run it, but the graphical environment would fail to load. I'd get the "ubuntu" splash screen (with the progressive dots), then blink to a garbage screen of static, and the computer would freeze. I have a run-of-the-mill 2Ghz AMD machine, my video card is an NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT, 256Mb... If I can get it to boot the graphical environment, I should be fine.
[03:01] <arand> gogeta: I think this is in the relese notes...
[03:01] <thanos> arand_, ok wait to reboot
[03:01] <Soothsayer> what size should each mount point / partition be?
[03:01] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, thats up to your needs
[03:01] <Soothsayer> I had allocated 60 gb to this ext4 earlier assuming it would be the single mount point /
[03:01] <arand> thanos: Reboot won't change anything regarding the btrfs..
[03:01] <robin0800> brewster, yes you will have to reinstall them I expect
[03:01] <MarcN1> ohsix: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/772859
[03:01] <brewster> darn
[03:01] <arand> thanos: Since no changes have been made yet..
[03:01] <Xylch> My notify-osd is not displaying any popups, can someone help me fix it?
[03:01] <Helpme> can somebody tell me if 11.4 fixes pulseaudio suttering problem?
[03:01] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, then delete the  / mount and recreate it...and then the others...say 20gigs each?
[03:02] <gogeta> arand: wow i asked that like forever ago
[03:02] <Herbs> soothsayer remember to put mount points of /var /etc on any other partitions you create for them
[03:02] <thanos> arand_, i made some updates and need reboot
[03:02] <Soothsayer> Herbs: ok.
[03:02] <arand> gogeta: Heh, I did a /lastlog btrfs ;)
[03:02] <thanos> arand_, brb
[03:02] <atpa8a> hey... what's the problem with btrfs?
[03:02] <ohsix> MarcN1: i had a freeze problem with mine too; it would prevent it from booting though, ssb/b43 had a problem that when they were loaded it'd succeed without a freeze less than half the time, that' was awesome
[03:02] <Soothsayer> Jon4248, Herbs: what else goes in /var ? (Besides MySQL which im aware of)
[03:02] <ohsix> MarcN1: but i got it fixed by talkingwith the developer :]
[03:02] <Ctown> How can I force new application to open in an _empty_ workspace, instead of stacking in one?
[03:02] <shane4ubuntu> unity and desktop cube?  no?  I tried to enable it, and that didn't go over well.
[03:03]  * atpa8a likes btrfs
[03:03] <MK``> Andrey_BTI : if you want to chat in russian
[03:03] <MK``> !ru
[03:03] <Herbs> soothsayer logs mostly
[03:03] <victory747> I noticed on http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/features/office-applications that "Quicken" is listed as available in the Ubuntu Software Center.  But I don't see quicken in there. Is quicken available for Ubuntu? Or are they just saying this meaning HomeBank or GNUCash?
[03:03] <Nightshade_> shane4ubuntu, really? that sucks
[03:03] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, my var has backups  cache  crash  games  lib  local  lock  log  mail  opt  run  spool  tmp
[03:03] <spungo> On an Asus eee 900 is there a way to scale the cpu down from 900mhz while still on AC power?
[03:03] <Soothsayer> I'm going to be mainly using this workstation for web / database development.
[03:03] <ohsix> MarcN1: oh that's what you posted, thanks for filing a bug
[03:03] <Herbs> if you use qmail sometimes that use /var also
[03:03] <shane4ubuntu> half of the warning box is off the screen so I can read it.  ugg.
[03:03] <RedLance> Ok...before I upgrade to Ubuntu 11, how can I figure out why 10 crashes my system, when 9 dosen't?
[03:03] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: I see.
[03:03] <arand> atpa8a: Likewise, (In noted that you can use btrfs without /boot, though you will see an error each boot and need to press to continue.)
[03:03] <gogeta> arand: so it can be a pure root fs now grub2 finnly supports it
[03:03] <MarcN1> ohsix: tomorrow I'll grab bcmwl-kernel-source and try that route.  Maybe just wipe and see how the install goes.
[03:04] <nandaram> hello massively sized channel
[03:04] <Jon4248> hello nandaram
[03:04] <gogeta> arand: i did a diffrent hack to install os on compressed fs
[03:04] <Nightshade_> so anyone who wants to pm me about your first impressions of natty
[03:04] <ohsix> MarcN1: can you try installing linux-backports-modules-net-natty-generic and see if it still freezes after a reboot?
[03:04] <ohsix> MarcN1: that's one of the first thing someone will ask you to try
[03:04] <nandaram> may i ask for the simpist procedure to get 8 ttys on default boot
[03:04] <Soothsayer> Do you guys normally store your data files under the /home directory? Like say documents, pictures, reports, code projects, design projects, etc?
[03:04] <gogeta> arand: full kubuntu install btrfs compressed 1.2 gb
[03:04] <Jon4248> Nightshade_, Natty rocks
[03:04] <mordof> ok, got Natty finally loaded
[03:04] <ohsix> Soothsayer: yep, i do
[03:05] <taglass> Soothsayer: I do
[03:05] <nowherefast> what version of ubuntu is natty?
[03:05] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, yes, thats the idea of home
[03:05] <Herbs> soothsayer but if you run out of space you can always sym link to another partition
[03:05] <ohsix> Soothsayer: i also tried to ask you before you left, what crashes?
[03:05] <mordof> nowherefast: 11.04
[03:05] <arand> gogeta: grub doesn't support it completely, the grubenv file can't be written to it seems, which is what makes it error
[03:05] <nandaram> fyi im drunk as hell and running a new version
[03:05] <mordof> nowherefast: 11*
[03:05] <Nightshade_> Jon4248, i just wanted to know what to expect cuz im upgrading right now ^_^
[03:05] <MarcN1> Soothsayer: yes that is standard use of /home
[03:05] <mordof> anyone know if it's possible to dock the launcher on the bottom of the screen?
[03:05] <gogeta> arand: still bootable?
[03:05] <arand> gogeta: It is normally not needed, but it causes issues though.
[03:05] <mordof> i use dual monitor and the launcher is in a VERY boad spot!
[03:05] <Jon4248> ah
[03:05] <Soothsayer> ohsix: Sorry if I left abruptly. What crashes where? Refresh my memory please
[03:05] <amy_> I just upgraded to Natty Narwhal (11.04) and my desktop seems to have changed quite a bit. Can I revert to the classic look, rather than the scrolling sidebar thing?
[03:05] <Soothsayer> Herbs: oh ye symlink it.
[03:05] <Soothsayer> ok
[03:05] <robin0800> mordof, no
[03:06] <atpa8a> arand: does that error not timeout?
[03:06] <mordof> robin0800: it's not possible or you don't know?
[03:06] <gogeta> arand: well i made a 100mb ext4 anyways
[03:06] <Jon4248> amy_, logout and select classic then login
[03:06] <nandaram> is there documentation for upgrade from old long term to new long term
[03:06] <gogeta> arand: being i never got a answer
[03:06] <IdleOne> amy_: yes, you need to log out and at the login screen click on the Session button at the bottom
[03:06] <shane4ubuntu> ohhh, great, I messed with compiz and now unity is broken, no menus, no sidebar thingy  that isn't good
[03:06] <arand> gogeta: You get a "press any key to continue", but otherwise seems fine, I'm not sure how it works with non-standard stuff like compression and so, presumably it should be fine..
[03:06] <lestat_> lol
[03:06] <Herbs> soothsayer yeah a sym link i.e ln -s /var/home/var
[03:06] <shane4ubuntu> alt-tab does nothing
[03:06] <gogeta> arand: but with the zlib enabled i got more space outta my ssd anyways
[03:06] <nandaram> does anyone know what an inittab is?
[03:06] <robin0800> amy_, yes logout and choose classic
[03:06] <Herbs> soothsayer yeah a sym link i.e ln -s /var/ home/var (correction)
[03:06] <kzman> hi, i cant change the display brightness, on ubuntu, is a driver missing?
[03:06] <shane4ubuntu> alt-f2 does nothing!
[03:07] <neo_> hello everyone, I'm writing a document about linux cluster solution. http://netkiller.github.com/solution.html
[03:07] <arand> gogeta: I've got to test that at some point, is it possible to set compression up via the installer?
[03:07] <nandaram> shane4ubuntu: ctrl+alt+f2
[03:07] <celeryman> does anyone know how to get shotwell working in 11.04, does nothing when trying to open
[03:07] <shane4ubuntu> any ideas on how to fix this?  apparently compiz and unity are not friendly with each other
[03:07] <Herbs> that will then put anything written to /var to /home/var in that example
[03:07] <gogeta> arand: its it takes a hack to do it bascily as soon as the installer make the part you remount it with the compression flage
[03:07] <mordof> robin0800: k... i get that it matches the design - but there's glitches/bugs when using two monitors (one to the left of the launcher) ;_;
[03:07] <mordof> this isawful!!!
[03:07] <thanos> arand, what can i do now
[03:07] <Nightshade_> shane4ubuntu, i dont know yet, havent had a chance to look at it
[03:07] <gogeta> arand: its aculy very responsiv
[03:07] <rileyp> is there any way a remote can letters in x with 1 -9 buttons
[03:07] <shane4ubuntu> nandaram: that is a virtual terminal what do I do once I'm there?
[03:07] <Soothsayer> Jon4248, Herbs, ohsix, taglass: So 20 GB for UbuntuOS ( sda1 with mount point '/' ),  100 GB for data files ( sdb1 with mount point '/home') , 100 GB for databases, etc ( sdb2 with mount point '/var' ) ? <--- makes sense?
[03:07] <Andrey_BTI> !ru
[03:08] <gogeta> arand: better then when it was uncompressed
[03:08] <nandaram> shane4ubuntu: default install pulls up 6 ttys you fucked your xserver im drunk pm me ill swear in channel getting compiz up in ubuntu should be cake work
[03:08] <arand> gogeta: So basically you halt after partitioning step in d-i and remount?
[03:08] <tase> Is it possible to /not/ download stuff when installing ubuntu ?
[03:08] <nandaram> and these ppl suck so im out... seriously where the fuck is the default boot spread threw
[03:08] <arand> thanos: Ok, re-do the mount I gave you
[03:08] <robin0800> mordof, thats a bug
[03:08] <gogeta> arand: naa the installer does a few things before it acully copys files just do it then
[03:08] <amorton> is it possible to share a DVD burner over the network, so it can be used directly from a netbook without one?
[03:08] <shane4ubuntu> nandaram: I like the channel no swear policy thanks anyway
[03:08] <arand> thanos: Do this "sudo mount /dev/sdXY /mnt -o defaults,subvolid=0"
[03:08] <amorton> both using ubuntu
[03:08] <gogeta> arand: it doesent notec the swap out
[03:08] <ManateeLazyCat> I shouldn't install Ubuntu-11.04 or Gnome3
[03:09] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, ctrl+alt+f1 >> then login >> type sudo service gdm restart
[03:09] <thanos> arand, ok
[03:09] <ChronicSyncope> well F. how do i get compiz working in unity? right now it just disappears everything.
[03:09] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: is that going to reboot it?
[03:09] <arand> thanos: then have a look in /mnt.
[03:09] <Herbs> soothsayer yeah that looks fine although you might not need 20gb for /
[03:09] <ManateeLazyCat> I'm a keyboard guy, i hate any system eat my keyshortcut and i even can't chane it.
[03:09] <OchoZero9> So what's the deal with the 3D?
[03:09] <mordof> anyone know where i'd report bugs about the Unity launcher in Natty?
[03:09] <OchoZero9> why it doesnt work for me?
[03:09] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, yes, the gdm
[03:09] <gogeta> arand: in fedora you can just add the flage ubuntu hasent added it yet
[03:09] <mordof> i've got 2 that need addressing >.<;
[03:09] <arand> thanos: Do you see your old data along with the new @home subvolume?
[03:09] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: but if the settings in compiz aren't right, then that won't change them right?
[03:10] <thanos> arand, cant open this folder
[03:10] <litropy> What's the version number of the next alpha?
[03:10] <gogeta> arand: so after install you gotta add the flage back to fstab as well
[03:10] <litropy> e.g. 11.04
[03:10] <arand> gogeta: Ubuntu support for btrfs is kinda wonky..
[03:10] <gogeta> arand: but it works
[03:10] <Helpme> can someone help me?
[03:10] <rileyp> OchoZero9,  perhaps you have 2d eys
[03:10] <Soothsayer> Herbs: Maybe for the softwares, etc I install?
[03:10] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, maybe
[03:10] <ohsix> Soothsayer: you said you were doing raid for robustitigitation in face of crashes, what crashes?
[03:10] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: seems as though I have lost the windows manager, how can I restart it?
[03:10] <OchoZero9> what utility can i run so it can tell me the specs of my device?
[03:10] <robin0800> mordof, believe if you now swap over monitors its alright
[03:10] <taglass> litropy: 11.10
[03:10] <arand> thanos: "cd /mnt; ls" ?
[03:10] <Herbs> soothsayer depends on what you install if you can spare it then use it
[03:10] <Helpme> my audio in 10.10 stutters.
[03:10] <Soothsayer> ohsix: wow, robustitigitation :) nice term.. hard disk crashes I meant back then.
[03:11] <thanos> yes its stack
[03:11] <woodn> Having some problems with crypt and Jabberd2 following an upgrade to natty...
[03:11] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, do you have auto login on?
[03:11] <amorton> is it possible to share a DVD burner over the network, so it can be used directly from a netbook without one?
[03:11] <OchoZero9> It should have no problem running 3D . since windows aero works fine, and starcraft II works fine too
[03:11] <rileyp> is there any way a remote can type letters in x with the 1 -9 buttons
[03:11] <zapradical> i like turtles... and ubuntu 11.04.
[03:11] <mordof> robin0800: i just updated to 11.04 today. if i move my mouse over to the second monitor - hover text sticks until moving back
[03:11] <Bronz> Oh, lots of traffic. I hope I get some attention. I just downloaded 11.04 and tried to run it, but the graphical environment would fail to load. I'd get the "ubuntu" splash screen (with the progressive dots), then blink to a garbage screen of static, and the computer would freeze. I have a run-of-the-mill 2Ghz AMD machine, my video card is an NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT, 256Mb...
[03:11] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: no,
[03:11] <thanos> arand, ls stack
[03:11] <woodn> basically - if i try to use crypted passwords in the config - it crashes and complaints about an undefined symbol crypt
[03:11] <Soothsayer> Herbs: ye I can spare it now.. shrink it later maybe.. plus I might want to virtualize Windows 7 within Ubuntu too.. maybe virtualbox or vmware.
[03:11] <woodn> anyone around here maybe have any experience in this area?
[03:11] <mordof> robin0800: in a particular manner at that too.  as well, when moving placements, instead of the anim snapping to the unity bar - they snap to the very left of the desktop (the far monitor)
[03:12] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, reboot (sudo shutdown now -r) and then log into classic desktop (no effects)
[03:12] <ohsix> Soothsayer: ah
[03:12] <Herbs> soothsayer no dont shrink later just use symlinks to it
[03:12] <ohsix> Soothsayer: for each disk you increase your odds of disk failure :D
[03:12] <Surlent777> hey guys, just had a quick question: I changed the GTK theme in Natty, and I notice most themes create an unsightly black triangle in the resizing corner. Any known way to eliminate that?
[03:12] <mordof> robin0800: the second one isn't quite as big of a deal.. but the first one is bugging the hell out of me
[03:12] <spungo> How do I enable CPU frequency scaling? [Asus eee 900] It should drop to 620mhz on battery, but doesn't [Ubuntu 10.10]
[03:12] <OchoZero9> The video is built in the processor on a separate die. Intel HD graphics
[03:12] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, reconfigure compiz, logout and log back into unity
[03:12] <arand> thanos: Hmm, that is odd..
[03:12] <ohsix> spungo: you shouldn't have to enable anyhting it should just work
[03:12] <robin0800> mordof, just report them as bugs in unity 3d
[03:12] <celeryman> anyone familier with shotwell
[03:12] <thanos> arand, yes
[03:13] <rileyp> OchoZero9,  you wont get 3d with that then
[03:13] <ohsix> spungo: try installing powertop and running it for a while, it might be able to tell you what's keeping it from clocking down; and will tell you what states it's been in and for how long
[03:13] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: ok, but I'm not sure what to reconfigure compiz back to, I didn't realize it was going to mess up unity with just two clicks of a mouse
[03:13] <Soothsayer> Herbs: isn't making too many partitions on the same disk getting redundant?
[03:13] <arand> thanos: I'm not sure then, I guess you could try it from a liveCD instead..
[03:13] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, what did you change?
[03:13] <Soothsayer> ohsix: well, i distribute the odds rather :)
[03:13] <ohsix> rileyp: he should, sandybridge and ironlake are supported by the drivers ...
[03:13] <spungo> ohsix: cat /proc/cpuinfo says it's still at 900mhz.
[03:13] <thanos> arand,  can i recover the data?
[03:13] <rileyp> oh ok
[03:14] <ohsix> spungo: it might at any given time; that's not an appropriate way to check it
[03:14] <rileyp> oh six really 3d?
[03:14] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: I was going to enable the desktop cube, and then all the warnings popped up mostly off the screen so I couldn't see them.
[03:14] <arand> thanos: I had a user before with the same issue, and this worked in that instance
[03:14] <cranch> can anyone help me with an apache2 issue?  whenever I go to my site via my dyndns name it changes ht eURL in the browser to my IP address
[03:14] <Soothsayer> ohsix: anyway, I decide to not do any software raid-1.. manually backup stuff instead.
[03:14] <ohsix> Soothsayer: good idea
[03:14] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: so trying to click through them without knowing what they said, I'm not really sure what I did.
[03:14] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it makes you think about it too; it's a handy device
[03:14] <Herbs> soothsayer not that Im aware of Im a Red hat admin I look after alot of red hat and centos boxes it will always have its uses installing on one partition increases any recovery time
[03:14] <zapradical> are there themes for the empathy irc interface?  im not a fan of the bubbles.
[03:14] <mordof> also getting rather poor desktop performance...
[03:14] <mordof> :\
[03:15] <OchoZero9> mordof: I'm not getting any desktop performance
[03:15] <ohsix> zapradical: i don't know about any themes, but there are a handful of appearances that come with it that you can pick from in the options
[03:15] <OchoZero9> is there a #unity ?
[03:15] <mordof> OchoZero9: ?
[03:15] <Surlent777> zapradical: it should take whatever theme you give it in the options. I think it should ship with three or four by default
[03:15] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, try this in a terminal gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz
[03:15] <thanos> arand,  someone told me there is problem with fsck.btrfs
[03:15] <mordof> OchoZero9: i mean everything is slow
[03:15] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, logout and login
[03:15] <xtr3m3> anyone having issues with freezing/crashing on restart, after upgrading to 11.04?
[03:15] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, ubuntu don't want you using ccs Mark has said so they are not for users
[03:15] <Soothsayer> Herbs: ok, so final call on '/' mount point size then?
[03:15] <bittyx-laptop> hey, i've downloaded the 11.04 iso image, and i'm supposed to burn it, but i don't have any empty cd's nearby. i do have dvd's though - can i use a dvd as well?
[03:15] <rileyp> cranch,  if your ip address is in /etc/hosts it will use dns name I think
[03:15] <OchoZero9> mordof: sorry about that. I just don't have unity for whatever reason
[03:15] <zapradical> Surlent777: i dont seem to have an Options menu entry in empathy
[03:16] <arand> thanos: Basically, what the problem is MM uses the top-level of the btrfs and dumps all files there, wheras NN sets up subvolumes under the top-level and mounts these instead. This has nothing to do with btrfsck.
[03:16] <mordof> OchoZero9: ah - wasn't referring to Unity directly, but that would definately be troublesome
[03:16] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800 then how do you change them?
[03:16] <Herbs> soothsayert 20gb is fine if you can spare it Id go with a 10gb min
[03:16] <spungo> bittyx-laptop: yes
[03:16] <cranch> rileyp: so just write an entry in /etc/hosts with IP - fqdn?
[03:16] <bittyx-laptop> spungo: thanks.
[03:16] <Soothsayer> Herbs: ok.
[03:16] <spungo> bittyx-laptop: welcome.
[03:16] <ohsix> zapradical: from the mainui, edit -> preferences -> themes tab
[03:16] <Soothsayer> i almost deleted my Windows partition... Jon4248, you jinxed me earlier!
[03:17] <arand> thanos: Your current NN install is mounting the subvolume, and hence you cannot see the old home files which are in fact above it in the tree.
[03:17] <thanos> arand,  any tool to recover to scan the partition to find the files?
[03:17] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, you don't thats the point later there will be a proper gui
[03:17] <gogeta> arand: well ill try to install on a zlib compressed root grub2 and see if the system explodes
[03:17] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, lol carefully now...you should really have a backup anyways...but im sure you thought of that right?
[03:17] <malv> so what do I do if I have a program that needs the system tray like jupiter?
[03:17] <OchoZero9> how do you get your system information like processor memory graphics?
[03:17] <rileyp> cranch if you put an ip adress and its dns name in /etc/hosts rather than typeingthe ip in you can simply type the dns name
[03:17] <arand> thanos: No, mounting the top-level with the command give should be enough.
[03:17]  * SuBmUnDo is away: http://submworld.blogspot.com/
[03:17] <Surlent777> OchoZero9: sudo lshw | less
[03:17] <gogeta> arand: ill be compressing everything now even the kernel
[03:17] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: hmm, that didn't seem to fix it, still no windows manager.
[03:18] <cranch> rileyp: oh this is external
[03:18] <shane4ubuntu> brb]
[03:18] <ohsix> SuBmUnDo: don't spam the channel please, with away messages or url's
[03:18] <cranch> port-forwarded out the FW
[03:18] <arand> thanos: Did you use any non-standard options for btrfs, compression or so?
[03:18] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, at this point you could of reinstalled natty by now...you might as well do that.
[03:18] <xangua> !away > SuBmUnDo
[03:18] <cranch> go to dyndns entry from the outside and it rewrites the dyndns to my external IP
[03:18] <dtcummin> How can I extned an extended partition to consume some freed from another primary partition?
[03:18] <mordof> running a gtx 460 nvidia - i checked Additional Drivers, and it says my nvidia driver is activated but not currently in use.  i'm running Natty, what does that mean? do i have to enable it or is it not needed?
[03:18] <celeryman> ubuntu 11.04 shotwell help please
[03:18] <Herbs> 0choZero9 top
[03:18] <mordof> i'm experiencing slow performance for visuals..
[03:18] <Soothsayer> Jon4248: I did have 'critical' stuff backups.. but not for level 2 and level 3..
[03:18] <arand> gogeta: Do expect it to break, and account for that ;)
[03:19] <Soothsayer> so ye, ill be careful instead, simpler than backing those up.
[03:19] <gogeta> arand: just a test heh
[03:19] <ChronicSyncope> so how do i get my wobbly windows back?
[03:19] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, ah
[03:19] <gogeta> arand: test machine'
[03:19] <OchoZero9> thx Surlent777 & Herbs
[03:19] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: ccsm, enable the wobbly plugin
[03:19] <Jon4248> ChronicSyncope, install ccsm enable wobbly
[03:19] <zapradical> Surlent777: thx i found it, i was in the wrong window
[03:19] <gogeta> arand: i kneo it work fine with grub2 having a ext4 boot
[03:19] <rileyp> cranch isnt that what its supposed to do
[03:19] <thanos> arand,  i tried to make install before and stack 2 times and i left this partiotion and made it again
[03:19] <bkerensa> Help!.... I am trying to do the Natty upgrade from 10.10 but the download speeds on the repo are insane slow... My eta is over 7 hours.... I have plenty of bandwidth
[03:19] <ChronicSyncope> whenever i enable composite my desktop breaks
[03:19] <mordof> "unable to location package ccsm"
[03:20] <ChronicSyncope> actually no
[03:20] <Surlent777> bkerensa: that's just the way it is. Everyone and their mother is upgrading today
[03:20] <cranch> rileyp: I'd assume it keeps the dydns name in it the whole time
[03:20] <arand> gogeta: Yea, I've worked through a bunch of kvms poking into btrfs =)
[03:20] <ChronicSyncope> its just not wobbling.
[03:20] <ohsix> gogeta: arand knows a lot about using btrfs, and the different filesystems generally aren't comparable on those terms; you should just listen to him
[03:20] <dtcummin> How can I extend an extended partition to consume some freed space from another primary partition?
[03:20] <ChronicSyncope> Jon4248, i check the box, enable opengl and composite, but nothing happen.s
[03:20] <gogeta> ohsix: yea i wasent having a issue i got the entire os compressed in a sabble state
[03:20] <bkerensa> Surlent777: Do you know if they intend to keep the Classic option on Natty or eventually force Unity?
[03:20] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: you should be using the opengl plugin, i really don't like how they split that in .9
[03:20] <arand> ohsix: gogeta knows as well..
[03:20] <ohsix> arand: noted
[03:21] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, how do i do that?
[03:21] <thanos> arand,  i m dummy and i didn't do nothing the only options from install
[03:21] <Surlent777> bkerensa: I understand they're keeping it for now but intend to eventually discontinue it, but don't quote me on that
[03:21] <Jon4248> ChronicSyncope, video card drivers maybe?
[03:21]  * SuBmUnDo is back (gone 00:03:25)
[03:21] <Soothsayer> A partition can fetch unallocated space from both the left and the right too?
[03:21] <Jon4248> ChronicSyncope, what video card you using?
[03:21] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: just enabling it should be enough, if your video card can actually manage
[03:21] <Herbs> bkenrensa use another mirror / contact your isp or just accept the servers are busy
[03:21] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, it's making me turn on composite and opengl
[03:21] <robin0800> bkerensa, unity 3d and unity 2d I think
[03:21] <SuBmUnDo> auto away sorry
[03:21] <bkerensa> Surlent777: Hmm so if I prefer classic perhaps staying with 10.10 might be best bet
[03:21] <rileyp> cranch, try the apche channel perhaps I dunnu much about it
[03:21] <celeryman> is there another place i can get help for ubuntu 11.04?
[03:21] <ChronicSyncope> Jon4248, GTX 460 768MB
[03:21] <cranch> np thanks for the help!
[03:21] <bkerensa> Surlent777: I just dont like the integrated menus... I hate it.... I love classic panels
[03:22] <Surlent777> bkerensa: possibly, but that won't be supported forever, and does work just fine in Natty
[03:22] <cranch> now to run this VM through the 11.04 upgrade
[03:22] <bjhaid> i am trying to pull a video off youtube with youtube-dl, each time i try it keeps returning ERROR: format not available for video
[03:22] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: almost same one i have - but i'm on the fermi 1gb
[03:22] <gogeta> ohsix: gonna see if grub blows up in my face if i put it in zlib compression as well
[03:22] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, i just upgraded today, everything was working an hour ago :p I have a GTX460 so i'm sure my card will support it
[03:22] <rileyp> np cya
[03:22] <ohsix> celeryman: nobody has seen your problem, most likely; i know i havent, and i use shotwell
[03:22] <Surlent777> bkerensa: Just choose Ubuntu Classic at the login screen
[03:22] <ymasory> hmm alt as meta no longer works in terminal in 11.04. alt seems to cause the terminal to lose focus or something. anysolutions?
[03:22] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: are you kidding???  I just about got through setting up my install, I can't believe it was that easy to break unity, they should have a great big warning label on compiz
[03:22] <Bronz> Help please: I'm trying to boot into the liveCD (not install), and the computer will freeze upon starting the graphical environment. I'd get the "ubuntu" splash screen (with the progressive dots), then blink to a garbage screen of static, and the computer would freeze. I have a run-of-the-mill 2Ghz AMD machine, my video card is an NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT, 256Mb...
[03:22] <thanos> arand, if helps you this : http://paste.ubuntu.com/600561/
[03:22] <OchoZero9> it may not be detecting my graphics correctly
[03:22] <arand> thanos: Hmm, then I'm afraid I'm not actually sure, you could try doing the same thing from recovery mode, or from a liveCD, if it is somehow dependent on not having the /home mounted, which it really shouldn't..
[03:22] <Ziber> Having a lot of trouble with my mic on skype on 10.10. Any ideas?
[03:22] <dtcummin> How can I extend an extended partition to consume some freed space from another primary partition?
[03:22] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: I will go back to the classic desktop before I re-install, that is just absurd.
[03:22] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: yea but it might not with nouveau; so you'd additionally need to try the proprietary driver
[03:22] <HyperSh0ck> hey guys. what is the solution when gnome or nautilus suddenly stops opening folders and mounts for file access but instead runs them through a program, for instance mine is running them through gedit for some unknowable reason....?
[03:22] <Jon4248> shane4ubuntu, lol
[03:23] <Slimcea_boy> If I want to try gnome3, what PPA should I be installing from?
[03:23] <Herbs> dtcummin you cant
[03:23] <bkerensa> Surlent777: Yeah but when/if they discontinue classic in Natty then I gotta do a workaround to keep classic and that wont be fun?
[03:23] <celeryman> i am having an issue with trying to start shotwell, does absolutely nothing when trying to open it,
[03:23] <rileyp> Ziber problem exactly?
[03:23] <ChronicSyncope> ymasory, it seems to make everything lose focus in my experience, and then you have to log out to restart x so you can start metacity again
[03:23] <Jon4248> ChronicSyncope, open additional drivers
[03:23] <shane4ubuntu> Jon4248: someone must have a way of fixing this, I mean, it shouldn't be that easy to break it.
[03:23] <gogeta> arand: gotta admit the entire os installed at 1.2gb is impressiv
[03:23] <Ziber> rileyp: Built in mic isnt working
[03:23] <ohsix> HyperSh0ck: the mime type for folders got changed to open with gedit, if you right click on a folder you can have it open with nautilus again
[03:23] <cvrser> dtcummin: have u already got 4 primary partitions?
[03:23] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, Jon4248  proprietary nvidia driver? I 've been using that
[03:23] <Surlent777> bkerensa: the discontinuation, if any, would occur in future releases. Natty itself will remain unaffected
[03:23] <gogeta> arand: for a 4gb ssd
[03:23] <dtcummin> cvrse, yes
[03:23]  * HyperSh0ck gives mad love to ohsix!
[03:23] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: dunno what to say
[03:23] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, Jon4248 it says "active but not in use"
[03:24] <arand> thanos: Oh, your new /home is ext4 then?
[03:24] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: same with mine :o
[03:24] <dtcummin> cvrser, yes
[03:24] <Jon4248> Jon4248, someone must...but not me..lol...have you tried to restart?
[03:24] <Soothsayer> Jon4248, Herbs, ohsix : For the '/home' and '/var' mount points, should I be creating "Primary Partitions"  or "Extended Partitions"
[03:24] <xsinick> ok the  new 11.04 is shitty
[03:24] <Soothsayer> ?
[03:24] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: then it's probably using nouveau; i don't know how to make it "in use"
[03:24] <ohsix> xsinick: #ubuntu-offtopic, this is a support channel
[03:24] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, what is nouveau?
[03:24] <thanos> arand, yes i did new install to have ubuntu
[03:24] <Soothsayer> xsinick: please, thats criticism that doesnt help anything or anyone.
[03:24] <arand> thanos: if you log in dmesg, or the kernel log, does it show any error messages? /var/log/*
[03:24] <ohsix> xsinick: there were many months of prereleases where you could have provided feedback
[03:24] <Jon4248> Soothsayer, i just pick whatever is default.
[03:25] <Soothsayer> Primary
[03:25] <Soothsayer> ok
[03:25] <ohsix> (but still not here, t his is a support channel)
[03:25] <Herbs> it doesent matter as long as you not going to make more than 45 partitions
[03:25] <xsinick> but thses are so clear
[03:25] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: the open source 3rd party nvidia driver
[03:25] <Herbs> 4 not 45
[03:25] <thanos> arand,  how to see this?
[03:25] <rileyp> Ziber is it muted is a laptop audio installed you are so vague noone will help you
[03:25] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: it's finally shipping in natty, it can do quite a bit :]
[03:25] <xsinick> 1. where is the right click on the tool bar?
[03:25] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, i don't think so, it's disabled in synaptic
[03:25] <Herbs> infact not 4 but 3
[03:25] <ohsix> xsinick: there isn't one, it's not a panel; it just looks like one
[03:25] <mordof> i'm gonna try and see about that
[03:26] <cvrser> dtcummin, not sure if it's possible then sry
[03:26] <arand> thanos: there is a log file viewer
[03:26] <xsinick> well how am I suppose to see all my cpu core  with the cpu scaling applet?
[03:26] <Herbs> dtcummin Its not possible
[03:26] <xsinick> :(
[03:26] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, although when i click on monitor in system it doesn't force me to use the nvidia applet, which is suspicious, but i was playing portal 2 in wine a few minutes ago
[03:26] <topramen> hello
[03:26] <ohsix> xsinick: you need a panel if you want that, don't use unity; pick the classic session on othe login screen
[03:26] <rileyp> ziber ther are usually 2 or 3 difeernt audio input channels you need to select int mic as default perhaps
[03:26] <dtcummin> Herbs, so I just have to start over?
[03:27] <Ziber> rileyp: Where?
[03:27] <Surlent777> xsinick: some things are being dumped. If you don't like the changes, choose Ubuntu Classic from the login screen. Problem solved.
[03:27] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: paste the output of glxinfo to a pastebin (run it in a terminal)
[03:27] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: portal 2 works in wine!?
[03:27] <Herbs> unless you have another drive to put the partitions on then yes
[03:27] <OchoZero9> i think i may not have the right driver
[03:27] <rileyp> do you have desktop mixer panel?
[03:27] <ohsix> Surlent777: it's not really dumped, it was just never added; it's a new implementation
[03:27] <ChronicSyncope> mordof, yes just install the skidrow crack and run it with padsp wine portal2.exe from the directory
[03:27] <xsinick> Surlent777:  thanks I will try that
[03:27] <arand> thanos: You could "sudo umount /mnt" and "sudo mount /dev/sda3 /mnt" again and then see if there have been any additions to the logs
[03:27] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: ah
[03:27] <topramen> is there a linux sms app
[03:27] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: ehhh i don't care, but a lot of people do talking about cracked software and stuff
[03:27] <yi`zhi> woo! anyone upgrading to narwhal right now?
[03:28] <yi`zhi> i could get rid of docky right?
[03:28] <Surlent777> ohsix: Fair enough. I forgot that.
[03:28] <dtcummin> Herbs, ok thanks
[03:28] <shane4ubuntu> well, in less than just a few hours I managed to break unity, and am back in the classic gnome desktop
[03:28] <arand> topramen: sms?
[03:28] <robin0800> rileyp, check alsamixer in a terrminal
[03:28] <xsinick> I got dual screens and it seems really screwed up
[03:28] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, it's cracked because drm breaks wine, not because i dont own it. i bought it.
[03:28] <topramen> yes sms
[03:28] <rileyp> ziber terminal $alsamixer lol
[03:28] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: right, people don't understand the distinction generally; just a heads up
[03:28] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, it's actually the recommended fix on winehq
[03:28] <yi`zhi> shane4ubuntu, how do you feel about unity?
[03:28] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: i know
[03:28] <thanos> arand, umount: /mnt: device is busy.         (In some cases useful info about processes that use          the device is found by lsof(8) or fuser(1))
[03:28] <xsinick> double  taskbar time and date widgets
[03:28] <milligan> I've booted a machine with the ubuntu rescue console. There are two harddrives in the machine. I'm trying to back up one harddrive to the other using dd (dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb) . It's been sitting there for quite a few hours now. How long should I expect it to take ?
[03:28] <Herbs> Im not an ubuntu user but isnt unity buggy as hell?
[03:29] <Surlent777> Herbs: it was, but now it's significantly less so
[03:29] <shane4ubuntu> yi`zhi: not impressed, although, now it appears I broke gnome too, so perhaps this is a compiz/natty problem
[03:29] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: that's advice from other users, upstream would prefer bugs that keep copy protectionf rom not working being fixed
[03:29] <Ziber> rileyp: "connection refused"
[03:29] <mordof> ohsix: what would one look for in glxinfo?
[03:29] <xangua> !ot | Herbs
[03:29] <xsinick> Herbs:  yes it is
[03:29] <yi`zhi> shane4ubuntu, hehe
[03:29] <arand> thanos: Ah, right, hmm, I guess you need to exit the ls that is stuck trying to access it.
[03:29] <armor-64> hi guys i want to remove the sidebar from ubuntu 11.04!i don't know how to do it,please help
[03:29] <xsinick> I'm on it now and it is screwy
[03:29] <mordof> ohsix: i'm also wondering about the driver since i'm in the same situation
[03:29] <yi`zhi> i have no clue about unity :(
[03:29] <Herbs> !get a grip | xangua
[03:29] <spungo> ohsix: I can't make much sense of the output from powertop :( Doesn't seem to mention CPU frequency, just 'wakeups' (whatever they are)
[03:29] <ohsix> mordof: look at the vendor string, it should signal rather clearly if it's the proprietary or nouveau driver
[03:29] <thanos> how
[03:29] <mordof> ohsix: NVIDIA Corporation
[03:29] <mordof> :\
[03:29] <ohsix> spungo: OK, did you do anything to disable acpi?
[03:29] <arand> thanos: Or you could just look at the logs and try to find it anyways, it shouldn't be too hard
[03:29] <Surlent777> armor-64: on the login screen, choose Ubuntu Classic Desktop. That will revert the changes
[03:29] <Herbs> wasnt off topic gui noog
[03:30] <shane4ubuntu> ok, what is the desktop??? used to be metacity, I guess that is no longer true??
[03:30] <Herbs> noob*
[03:30] <ChronicSyncope> mordof, obviously no co-op with that setup, also if you choose to go that route, you'll also have to do winetricks glsl-disable in your portal folder with the exe in it, and it runs super smooth
[03:30] <xsinick> gonna go classic
[03:30] <xsinick>  see if that work
[03:30] <spungo> ohsix: not as far as I know...
[03:30] <xsinick> works
[03:30] <armor-64> surlent777: thanks man
[03:30] <ohsix> Herbs: that is offtopic
[03:30] <yi`zhi> shane4ubuntu, if upgrade to narwal, i could remove docky right? do i also still need compiz to do cool desktop switching?
[03:30] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: no co-op, that's a fail.. i'll dual boot windows just for that game, lol
[03:30] <ohsix> Herbs: this is a support channel
[03:30] <xsinick> I like the side bar icon thing
[03:30] <rileyp> ziber type alsamixer in a terminal window or tty session
[03:30] <xsinick> can you scale it?
[03:30] <ohsix> spungo: post the output of dmesg to a pastebin
[03:30] <thanos> arand,  can i sent you the file?
[03:30] <OchoZero9> ohsix: I ran /usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p and all the test passed fine. it says Unity supported: yes
[03:30] <ChronicSyncope> mordof, agree'd but I don't have time to play the co-op until summer, so i've got some time to work the bugs out :p
[03:30] <shane4ubuntu> yi`zhi: I have no idea, don't mess with compiz, I have already botched both my desktops.
[03:31] <Surlent777> xsinick: Yes. Use ccsm (the compiz configuration tool) and look under the unity plugin, icon scaling
[03:31] <rileyp> is there any way a remote can type letters in x with the 1 -9 buttons
[03:31] <robin0800> armor-64, you cant remove it but can hide it forever
[03:31] <ohsix> OchoZero9: i don't know what to say
[03:31] <shane4ubuntu> yi`zhi: that is unity and gnome
[03:31] <xsinick> Surlent777:  thanks
[03:31] <mordof> ChronicSyncope: ahh i see. if you get them worked out want to let me in on how to do it? lol
[03:31] <yi`zhi> shane4ubuntu, eek!
[03:31] <OchoZero9> say it crashes
[03:31] <arand> thanos: it should be in dmesg (you can just run "dmesg" in the terminal to see it.)
[03:31] <armor-64> and one question how to do this?
[03:31] <OchoZero9> how do you bring it back?
[03:32] <arand> thanos: Are there any suspicious errors by the end of that?
[03:32] <Herbs> so what was off topic exactly?
[03:32] <ohsix> OchoZero9: it should come back itself, but alt+f2 and run compiz --replace
[03:32] <ChronicSyncope> mordof, haha sure, you might not even need the aforementioned illegal fix in 11.04, check winehq
[03:32] <Surlent777> armor-64: log out, then on the login screen, at the bottom, it'll say "Ubuntu". Click that, and choose "Classic Desktop" or the closest thing to it.
[03:32] <Ziber> rileyp: thats what i did
[03:32] <dasy2k1> anyone any idea where /sys/devices/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load has moved to with 11.
[03:32] <ohsix> Herbs: "i don't use, but isn't it buggy"
[03:32] <Herbs> the fact that unity is poo
[03:32] <celeryman> i need help with shotwell in ubuntu 11.04
[03:32] <dasy2k1> 11.04 that should have read
[03:32] <robin0800> OchoZero9, unity --restart
[03:32] <mordof> ohsix: i have the nouvou driver or w/e installed.. i'm not sure which it's using
[03:32] <OchoZero9> alt+f2 didn't work
[03:32] <ohsix> Herbs: that's not a fact, and shouldn't be presented as such, that is your apparently not personally informed opinion
[03:33] <rileyp> ziber if alsamixer will not open you audio isnt installed correctly i would say
[03:33]  * dasy2k1 agrees with Herbs
[03:33] <OchoZero9> but ill try both. btw i put a terminal icon on the desktop just in case
[03:33] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, what happened to the tab in appearence prefs that allowed you to turn on wobbly windows and such?
[03:33] <armor-64> thanks guys for the help!i find it,i needed this so much see ya
[03:33] <ohsix> mordof: if it says nvidia corporation it's the proprietary driver
[03:33] <Herbs> oh dear ubuntu wannabe m$
[03:33] <OchoZero9> brb
[03:33] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: that was gone a while ago iirc
[03:33] <Soothsayer> What about selecting a swap space during installation?
[03:33] <amorton> anyone know of a way to do this (http://www.paragon-software.com/business/net-burner/) in linux?
[03:33] <mordof> ohsix: k.. that's annoying, i'm getting slow response on desktop applications
[03:33] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, i had it in 10.10 :p
[03:33] <kristianpaul> 11.04 is next LTS version?
[03:33] <xsinick> CAN"T TAKE IT  GONNA REBOOT  TO CLASSIC
[03:33] <Surlent777> Herbs: Why bother complaining about how terrible it is in a support channel when you don't use it and can't even make a coherent case? Complain in #ubuntu-offtopic, the bugs listings, or just drop it before someone gets annoyed and calls for a ban
[03:33] <xangua> kristianpaul: no
[03:33] <Soothsayer> the installer is giving me a warning that I haven't selected a partition for the swap space.
[03:33] <ohsix> Herbs: please, if you don't have any questions or need any help, don't speak; there are lots of people talking
[03:33] <dasy2k1> Herbs unity looks more like Mac to me with that blasted dock and the menus being in the top bar
[03:33] <Ziber> rileyp: well, trying to reinstall
[03:33] <xangua> Herbs:  stop the offtopic here
[03:34] <kristianpaul> ah ok, yeah i tought time passed too fast.. ;)
[03:34] <kristianpaul> bye
[03:34] <thanos> arand,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600566/
[03:34] <lestat__> vulvuzela
[03:34] <Herbs> suelent777 who asked any of you to make judjements on what I say?
[03:34] <Ziber> reinstalled, same issue
[03:34] <spungo> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/U7bsr75Y
[03:34] <fezzik02> I can't get 11.04 to boot at all
[03:34] <Surlent777> Herbs: you, by posting them in a public forum
[03:34] <ohsix> Herbs: one need not ask; this is a help channel, and we all know it
[03:34] <robin0800> Soothsayer, yes you need a seperate swap space
[03:34] <xsinick> I sure the devs got all these issues  presented to them before hand and it was ignored
[03:34] <Herbs> I said one thing about a gui and got slated ahove your ubuntu up your ass
[03:35] <rileyp> look in synaptic try and play a sound using aplay etc if these thing show problems go to the ubuntu forums multimedia thread it has setup of everything in there so you can play any and everything and set upof sound devices and video and dvd etc
[03:35] <rgoytacaz> Hello there, Just installed 11.04 on my Vosto 3300 and it didnt install the nvidia drivers. so no flashiness. Is it working?
[03:35] <ohsix> Herbs: please, if you don't have any questions or need any help, don't speak; there are lots of people talking
[03:35] <Bronz> I know you guys are busy, but I still hope for some help with booting the LiveCD on a computer with an NVIDIA GeForce 7800 GT, 256Mb...
[03:35] <shane4ubuntu> ok, anyone with actual knowledge about enabling desktop cube with unity?  I tried ccsm and that was very bad news.
[03:35] <Herbs> Red hat / centos / fedora / slack ware > ubuntu
[03:35] <toto654> hello....i add a bad server to synaptic....i cant recharge the servers wont let me use synaptics
[03:35] <Bronz> The computer will freeze upon starting the graphical environment. I'd get the "ubuntu" splash screen (with the progressive dots), then blink to a garbage screen of static, and the computer would freeze.
[03:35] <IdleOne> Herbs: Please mind the language
[03:35] <fezzik02> It is busy here, you'd  think there was a recent release or something
[03:35] <xangua> shane4ubuntu: saw a post about that on omgubuntu blog
[03:35] <diaoer> if you have more pritation you hd may crash
[03:35] <dasy2k1> rgoytacaz: look in restricted drivers (in system) check its activated
[03:35] <Herbs> sorry for the language
[03:36] <shane4ubuntu> xangua: ok, thanks, I will check it out.
[03:36] <Herbs> but just because I made a comment about unity ffs
[03:36] <mordof> seems a lot of people are commenting on the proprietary drivers
[03:36] <mickster04> diaoer: i don't think that is a correct correlation
[03:36] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: aditional drivers?
[03:36] <xangua> shane4ubuntu: omg!ubuntu! or webupd8, can't remember with blog
[03:36] <gogeta> arand: zlib compressed btrfs root install no error other then the one you said would happon
[03:36] <rpk> My dad is getting a ubi-partman error when attempting to install ubuntu x64 11.04 final, any help?   ... not the best first impression... :(
[03:36] <diaoer> why?
[03:36] <shane4ubuntu> xangua: I will find it thanks.
[03:36] <dasy2k1> rgoytacaz:  yeh new name same program
[03:36] <fezzik02> Yeah, my 11.04 won't install at all.
[03:36] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: says its currently activated but not in use.
[03:37] <fezzik02> Ok, correction - it installs, but no boot
[03:37] <mickster04> diaoer: more partitions doesn't mean the harddrive will break sooner?
[03:37] <diaoer> but my hd crash last night
[03:37] <mordof> rpk: what's the error, and what hardware do you have?
[03:37] <dragonkeeper> Herbs if you dont like unity dont use it . same for ubuntu
[03:37] <rileyp> Bronz start to a prompt and remove type sudo xconfig and then type startx that should give tyou basic grahpics then google how to install your nvidia drivers
[03:37] <dasy2k1> rgoytacaz:  deactivate then reactivate then reboot, should work then
[03:37] <multipass> in 11.04 how do i change it so when i move the mouse cursor over the edge it changes workspace?
[03:37] <mickster04> diaoer: not related to the number of partitions i can bet
[03:37] <arand> thanos: Yea, that is something wrong there. What you might want to do is find a liveCD with a very new version of the kernel, (Fedora, or yet newer) and see if you can mount it from there instead. I'm not sure you'll be able to do much more from the buuntu kernel version.
[03:37] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: it error'd out during installation
[03:37] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: will try, brb.
[03:37] <Herbs> what happened to frees speech and "open source"
[03:37] <rpk> mordof: ubi-partman exit code 141, on the screen after the checklist
[03:37] <Herbs> get a grip
[03:37] <diaoer> yes but i can`t mount partitions to /home/**
[03:37] <xangua> !ot | Herbs
[03:37] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/compiz-cube-natty/
[03:37] <fezzik02> Herbs, stfu and gtfo
[03:38] <gogeta> Herbs: lol the is your free speech is limited to the ops wims
[03:38] <Bronz> rileyp: thanks, how do I start the liveCD to a prompt instead of graphical?
[03:38] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: just one more thing, Im on sdd, is it on automatic trim by default? or should I just do that same procedure for 10.04?
[03:38] <gogeta> irc
[03:38] <ohsix> spungo: hmm, i dunno, everything that'd make it work is there; i don't personally pay attention to the eee stuff, but eee_laptop might have changed between then and now, i'd look there first
[03:38] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: thanks
[03:38] <yi`zhi> Herbs, those are concepts to stabilize society. much like religion. duh
[03:38] <Herbs> you guys are making it off topic for one comment I made think on!
[03:38] <yi`zhi> -_-
[03:38] <IdleOne> !language | fezzik02
[03:38] <dasy2k1> rgoytacaz:  no idea on that one
[03:38] <fezzik02> lol
[03:38] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: thanks :)
[03:38] <xsinick> ahhh
[03:38] <Bronz> Also rileyp: what do you mean "remove type sudo xconfig"?
[03:38] <arand> fezzik02: Please don't further things. Someone will take care of it if it continues.
[03:39] <xsinick> Classic solved all the issues
[03:39] <ohsix> Herbs: this is a help channel, it's not a free speech thing, what you are doing right now is completely antithetical to what the channel is, and you don't even suggest that you are here to get support for a problem you are having; that annoys people
[03:39] <thanos> arand,  fedora its ok?
[03:39] <fezzik02> I just want to know why my 11.04 can't boot, that's all.
[03:39] <xsinick> Classic is the shiznit
[03:39] <rpk> mordof: mobo is gigabyte: p67a-ud7-b3
[03:39] <Soothsayer> ok installing now :)
[03:39] <rileyp> Bronz are you trying to run from a live cd or install from alive cd
[03:39] <shane4ubuntu> how about getting things to show up in the notification area?  anyone know about that?  there a many apps that I use and like them up there.
[03:39] <mordof> rpk: did some googling, there's a bunch of investigation going on about that error
[03:39] <thanos> arand,  you think its kernel problem?
[03:39] <spungo> ohsix: thanks for the help - i'll leave it for another day, it's clearly peak support season right now!
[03:39] <fezzik02> And I think that suggesting that those abbreviations are tantamount to swearing is silly, but I don't care, just tell me how to make the darned thing work.
[03:39] <rpk> ahhhhhhhhhh wtf.
[03:39] <rileyp> if running from a live cd do not choose nvidia driver in setup
[03:39] <arand> thanos: Hmm, Well frankly not sure if it will make much difference...
[03:39] <ohsix> spungo: it surely is interesting :]
[03:39] <Soothsayer> its very thoughtful that I can use firefox during the installation.
[03:39] <xsinick> can I put the fancy side bar on classic
[03:40] <xsinick> ?
[03:40] <mordof> rpk: when did you download the iso for the installer?
[03:40] <Herbs> shix I aid one thing Im here for the support you guys are going on 1 because I made a comment about unity
[03:40] <rpk> morfof: 30 minutes ago or so
[03:40] <van7hu> them an trung ga :)
[03:40] <arand> thanos: It is a btrfs problem, but btrfs is part of the kernel, so the newer the kernel, the more bugfixes btrfs has.
[03:40] <fezzik02> Anybody else having the same problem? 11.04 won't boot?
[03:40] <Bronz> rileyp: eventually install, but right now just vboot. I can't do either because of the freeze. If I can get the basic graphics you say, that should be enough; I can install nvidia-current on my own after that.
[03:40] <ohsix> xsinick: you probably can, just turn on the unity plugin in ccsm, and use compiz as your wm, it's not designed to work like that, but it might be OK
[03:40] <xangua> xsinick: no
[03:40] <mordof> rpk: do you have internet access? most of the reports are listing that there's no internet access during install :\
[03:40] <Herbs> propertry Linux
[03:40]  * dasy2k1 thinks the flames should be sent to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:40] <xangua> ooh maybe
[03:40] <ohsix> xsinick: or it might not, if the unity plugin draws the boxes that are in the middle, then you can't just get the bar
[03:40] <rpk> yeah, all the check boxes are checked
[03:40] <thanos> arand,  data are there you think?
[03:41] <xangua> xsinick: if you are looking to use unity with no compiz there is 'unity 2d'
[03:41] <arand> thanos: Hang on, actually, try using the mainline kernel.
[03:41] <rpk> though windows 7 needs a driver installed to connect to the internet
[03:41] <arand> !mainline | thanos
[03:41] <fezzik02> So... I ask for help, and I get ignored... but people have time to give me a hard time for swearing?
[03:41] <rgoytacaz> dasy2k1: Cant remove the driver, says InstallArchives() failed.
[03:41] <ohsix> Herbs: do you need help? i simply asked you to stop speaking if you don't need help, there are already a lot of people talking
[03:41] <mordof> rpk: if you could get your logs from the error it'd be helpful
[03:41] <rileyp> Bronz often graphics fail because they are not set up correctly and leave you with no screen. To avoid this use default video drivers and they will work. This will get your system up and running have aplay then google how to install nvidia drivers and do so accordingly
[03:41] <xsinick> well
[03:41] <xsinick> it ok
[03:41] <Herbs> oshix sort your stuff out you wannabe
[03:41] <rpk> mordof: how would I do that?
[03:41] <xsinick> I don't need preety
[03:41] <lestat__> hehe
[03:41] <ohsix> Herbs: is that a question?
[03:41] <fezzik02> Is there some way to force default drivers?
[03:41] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, three choices find an indicator equivalent whitelist the indicator area or use unity 2d
[03:41] <Macer> is there some way that i can make it so if an nfs goes down that users would be redirected to a secondary home ?
[03:41] <Herbs> whats youyr prob?
[03:42] <Bluebill-Wolf> is it preferable to install in to the oem mode?
[03:42] <xsinick> preety I'm just a power user that need solid
[03:42] <Bronz> rileyp: OK, how do I tell the live-CD to boot using default video drivers?
[03:42] <mordof> rpk: use a live cd and check /var/log/syslog
[03:42] <lestat__> kuel
[03:42] <arand> thanos: Yes, I would guess that the data is still there, but whether or not you can get to it, I don't know..
[03:42] <ohsix> fezzik02: you're getting a black screen, right?
[03:42] <mordof> rpk: on your main partition that you're installing on i mean, for that directory to check
[03:42] <lestat__> Herbs like you atitude
[03:42] <dasy2k1> rgoytacaz:  have to pass you on to somone more experianced then, thats going beyond what i have experianced getting nvidia to work
[03:42] <Macer> i want to use an nfs for home but if it goes down i want users to be redirected to a local directory for their home (one that can be synced with the nfs with cron or something)
[03:42] <fezzik02> Is there any place that I can look for a boot up log?
[03:42] <Herbs> ok oshix help me with this an ubuntu server tty12 keeps respawning on login?
[03:42] <ohsix> lestat__: do you need help?
[03:42] <rpk> the installer didn't get far enough to select the partition
[03:42] <Herbs> tty1*
[03:42] <rpk> mordof^^
[03:43] <Bluebill-Wolf> is it preferable to install in to the oem mode?
[03:43] <xsinick> ohsix:  Once devs fix  the Unity issues some more then I'l sitch
[03:43] <arand> thanos: Install the latest kernel from the mainline (instructions on the wiki) and then reboot into that kernel and try mounting it again.
[03:43] <xsinick> switch*
[03:43] <rileyp> Also rileyp: what do you mean "remove type sudo xconfig"?  to remove any nvidia created xorg.conf which most probably is casing your x screen to fail  by typeing sudo xconfig a std xorg.conf will be created using std driversl
[03:43] <rpk> mordof: it fails as you click next on the screen with the checkboxes (space, internet access)
[03:43] <lestat__> ohsix just watching
[03:43] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: I found the whitelist  thing, but was unable to locate it in gconf-editor, seems that has changed.
[03:43] <ohsix> xsinick: most people are complaining about cosmetic issues; they're not trying to convince you to switch or anything
[03:43] <Herbs> thought youd shut up
[03:43] <Bluebill-Wolf> I'll take that as an idk
[03:43] <fezzik02> *** HELP ME PLEASE *** I cannot get a fresh install of 11.04 to boot
[03:43] <ohsix> xsinick: it's just simpler and more forward looking, with tablets and netbooks
[03:43] <ChronicSyncope> ohsix, does using gnome classic disable compiz?
[03:43] <ohsix> fezzik02: boot how?
[03:43] <dasy2k1> anyone know where the cpu scaling settings (like ignore nice load) have moved to (used to be in /sys/devices/cpu/cpufreq)??
[03:43] <thanos> arand,  can i make with live cd?
[03:44] <arand> ChronicSyncope: Nope
[03:44] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, it there yesterday
[03:44] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: no, you can still use it as your window manager
[03:44] <rileyp> bronx do not select nvidia
[03:44] <arand> thanos: You won't need to with the mainline
[03:44] <fezzik02> Like, I power on the computer, it gives me the GRUB 2 menu, and that's all
[03:44] <ohsix> dasy2k1: i don't recall that entry ever, what kernel were you running?
[03:44] <xsinick> ohsix:  I understand
[03:44] <multipass> in 11.04 gnome how do i make cursor flip workspace?
[03:44] <lainy> After upgrading to the latest Ubuntu, my Conky's {acpi} no longer displays my CPU temperature. Any clue? Thanks.
[03:44] <fezzik02> It sits and spins for about a minute then locks up tight as a drum
[03:44] <ohsix> fezzik02: so after an install?
[03:44] <lainy> {acpitemp}*
[03:44] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, think you need the terminal
[03:44] <mordof> rpk: hmm.. there should be a way to get the installer to install with debug output
[03:44] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: I didn't see it, let me doublecheck, I was looking at a web page that pointed me to desktop -> Unity -> panel or something like that.
[03:44] <fezzik02> Yes, I'm on live cd now
[03:44] <Bluebill-Wolf> so ubuntu 11.0 is bugged I take it?
[03:44] <dasy2k1> ohsix: the stock one AFAIK on 10.10
[03:44] <Rehan> if I'm going to completely wipe my 10.10 install and install 11.04 in its place, what are some steps I should take before wiping (besides backing up my data) that will let me get back to the same setup on 11.04? Thanks!
[03:45] <xsinick> blender window is opening  wacky
[03:45] <ohsix> xsinick: fwiw it doesn't suit me without a proper panel, the panel is make or break for me
[03:45] <rpk> mordof: I had him check from the livecd mode, he can get to the internet from the livecd at least
[03:45] <Bronz> rileyp: I mean, if I load the live-CD, it will attempt to go into graphical mode on its own; how do I stop it from doing that? How do I tell it to use "default" or "safe" video drivers when booting?
[03:45] <Rehan> Bluebill-Wolf: the ubuntu versions are just based on when they're released. 11 = 2011, 04 = April
[03:45] <ohsix> dasy2k1: hmmmm
[03:45] <arand> fezzik02: If you edit the menu entry and remove "quiet splash" and then boot via [Ctrl+x] does it show any interesting error messages?
[03:45] <fezzik02> arand: let me try that
[03:45] <dasy2k1> ohsix:  used to set /sys/devices/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load to 1 to stop boinc maxing my cpu all the time
[03:45] <fezzik02> bbl
[03:45] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: got a link to what you are looking at?
[03:45] <xsinick> any body with Dual screens
[03:45] <xsinick> and Blender
[03:45] <ohsix> dasy2k1: ah the governor options
[03:45] <xsinick> ?
[03:46] <xangua> !anyone | xsinick
[03:46]  * Bluebill-Wolf head tilts "ahh  (the more you know)"
[03:46] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/
[03:46] <Bluebill-Wolf> thanks
[03:46] <Bluebill-Wolf> ^_^
[03:46] <rileyp> ziber http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[03:46] <mordof> rpk: sorry, i don't know enough about this to get anywhere :\ lol
[03:46] <ohsix> dasy2k1: theres one for each cpu, and /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/ondemand/ignore_nice_load
[03:46] <dasy2k1> ohsix:  yeh the governer settings, cant seem to find them now
[03:46] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: you are a pro, thanks!
[03:46] <mordof> rpk: was hoping i could at least get you in the right direction
[03:46] <rileyp> ziber that will fix any audio issue you have :D
[03:46] <octillion> Rehan:  If you have a large enough external drive, you can just dump an image of your current HDD with dd
[03:47] <mordof> rpk: if you could find out how to get logs to show for when you're getting that error -it'd be helpful in resolving the problem at least
[03:47] <soja> when i try to enter in windows from GRUB, the screens turns black and then i come back to GRUB, what's wrong?
[03:47] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/how-to-hide-or-show-app-tray-applets-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[03:47] <thanos> arand,  just donwload  the deb?
[03:47] <Rehan> octillion: i have a 500 gb drive with a lot of free space but my ubuntu is on a 10gb partition and the remaining 490 is a win7 partition. Anything I could do?
[03:47] <dasy2k1> ohsix:  ahh missing the extra system, found them now
[03:48] <Bronz> rileyp: Don't forget about me! How do I boot a liveCD without it trying to use the nvidia graphics (or whatever is causing it to freeze when starting the graphical env)?
[03:48] <xsinick> Anyone has  duals screens and Blender in window mode?  I run blender window mode and it streched off screen I have a nvidia geforce card with the plugin running
[03:48] <octillion> just dd the partition with ubuntu
[03:48] <dasy2k1> ohsix:  thought somone had moved them :-o
[03:48] <arand> thanos: Yes, three of them (header image and and another which i don't remeber the name of)
[03:48] <Bronz> rileyp: (thanks for the help, though 8-))
[03:48] <Herbs> Id use rscync over dd
[03:48] <xsinick> in previous  Ubuntu version  it all worked fine
[03:48] <ohsix> dasy2k1: find | grep ftw
[03:48] <Rehan> octillion: can i pm?
[03:48] <fezzik02> Ok, back
[03:48] <dasy2k1> lol true
[03:48] <octillion> Rehan: sure
[03:48] <arand> thanos: There should be instructions on how to install on the wiki
[03:48] <afroman> what is the best way to wipe out a hard drive?
[03:49] <ChronicSyncope> grrr...
[03:49] <CrouchingTiger> Ahhh!!! Its Fezzik!!! Andre??
[03:49] <ohsix> xsinick: in old versions using compiz or not using compiz?
[03:49] <dasy2k1> afroman:  draks boot and nuke
[03:49] <usr13>  afroman Best way?
[03:49] <fezzik02> John, as it were.
[03:49] <rileyp> Bronz If live cd will not boot for you and your not selcting nvidia I cant help sorry. I never use livecd.
[03:49] <fezzik02> dban
[03:49] <xsinick> hmm
[03:49] <ohsix> xsinick: nvidia dirvers have some awful gotchas with multiple outputs, and they don't do xrandr 1.2+
[03:49] <rpk> mordof: is there anywhere else I can ask to get more help?
[03:49] <ChronicSyncope> i got wobbly windows working, but desktop cube still kills my theme, and whenever i restart classic gnome, my desktop setup is 2x2 instead of 4x1
[03:50] <mordof> rpk: no idea.. i'd just try re-stating the problem here and hopefully someone else will pick up on it
[03:50] <CrouchingTiger> hey all, im using backtrack4 r2 on a live usb stick. I am quite happy with the speed
[03:50] <dasy2k1> rpk ubuntuforums.org
[03:50] <xsinick> I think compz was on on my past installl
[03:50] <anonemoose> Minor question.... What are some good, _tested_, and stable programs for burning DVD+Rs?
[03:50] <fezzik02> Ok, so I tried without quiet nosplash in GRUB2, same result
[03:50] <Bronz> rileyp: Yeah, I'm not actively selecting anything; I don't see any options to change the video either. Thanks for the help, though, it is going in the right direction. I'll try the alternative disk to see if any ideas pop up.
[03:50] <ohsix> ChronicSyncope: i had lots of compiz crashes when i was trying to set up my old settings, i don't think they tested much more than what unity would use
[03:50] <usr13> afroman: as in most thoural?
[03:50] <rpk> ok, I see a couple open bug reports
[03:50] <kathie> I've been using Ubuntu for four years now. I'm finding this new release harder to use. You have to search for programs?
[03:50] <fezzik02> Nothing shows on the screen
[03:50] <rpk> http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-757720%5D-re-ubi-partman-crashes-exit-code-141-during-liveinstall-143862/
[03:50] <ohsix> CrouchingTiger: we don't support a lot of variants like backtrack here
[03:50] <soja> when i try to enter in windows from GRUB, the screens turns black and then i come back to GRUB, what's wrong?
[03:50] <afroman> usr13: a way to clean the hd so that nothing can be retrieve after
[03:51] <mordof> rpk: yeah..
[03:51] <arand> fezzik02: Hmm, I would try reinstalling grub.
[03:51] <Bronz> Congratulations guys on the new release. If I still have troubles I'll come back in a day or two, hopefully the traffic will have subsided a bit by then.
[03:51] <xangua> kathie: you can add it to the panel/sidebar/launcher
[03:51] <arand> !grub | fezzik02
[03:51] <anonemoose> afroman you guys need a good memory scrubber? I have one, if you're interested...
[03:51] <rileyp> Bronz at screen freeze you could try CTRL+alt +f1 and see what happens you may end up in a tty session meaning ubuntu has started up completely but gdm has failed thenits just a matter of resolving that
[03:51] <ohsix> afroman: the best way is to melt it
[03:51] <Herbs> kathie I know Im going to get flamed for this but wtf.... use a distro that suits you
[03:51] <robin0800> xsinick, it dosen't matter as unity now uses different features of compiz than before so may not work now
[03:51] <afroman> dasy2k1: can one retrieve data after? or is it completely gone?
[03:51] <kathie> xangua, I seen that, but you still have to search for it first. I just find it a pain
[03:52] <Bronz> rileyp: Oh, good idea. I'll try that too. Thanks.
[03:52] <xsinick> I feel like to Cuss
[03:52] <rileyp> Bronz,  are you trying latest ubuntu?
[03:52] <usr13> *thorough
[03:52] <soja> when i try to enter in windows from GRUB, the screens turns black and then i come back to GRUB, what's wrong?
[03:52] <OchoZero9> unity --replace` got it working, but I have to put that in every time.
[03:52] <ohsix> afroman: and as been mentioned, dban; but there are also secure erase commands oyu can give most newer drives
[03:52] <xsinick> I so wanted this  to work  out of the box
[03:52] <Bronz> Yup, fresh from the press.
[03:52] <ohsix> afroman: then the drive firmware erases it
[03:52] <dasy2k1> afroman:  as far as you can be sure, its gone.... ok if you are the CIA and have years to spend analaising every molicule you may be able to find one or 2 bits but in general its gone
[03:52] <usr13> afroman: Write zeros to it seven times is industry standard.   You can do that with dd
[03:53] <rileyp> is there any way a remote can type letters in x with the 1 -9 buttons
[03:53] <kathie> Herbs, go to hell! I'm just saying how I feel. I've been using Ubuntu for four years now, and don't plan on changing. But I don't think it's a reason to take a step backwards
[03:53] <ohsix> dasy2k1: the molecules don't move :D their magnetic domains do
[03:53] <xsinick> it's like the one reason I can't recomend ubuntu to any one with a clear mind
[03:53] <Herbs> kathine fine by me you noob
[03:53] <fezzik02> How do I reinstall GRUB2?
[03:53] <arand> kathie: If you right-click the applications button in the panel, you can go to the categories
[03:53] <dasy2k1> usr13:  better to use /dev/urandom for the first 6 passes
[03:53] <cylob> i like unity
[03:53] <xsinick> I like the look
[03:53] <multipass> in 11.04 gnome-- how do i make cursor over edge flip workspace or move windows to otherworspaces(compiz fusion settings used to let me do this in 10.10)?
[03:53] <xsinick>  of unity
[03:53] <kathie> arand, I seen that
[03:53] <KM0201> !grub | fezzik02
[03:53] <cylob> but i just installed google earth and the fonts are all messed up
[03:53] <Herbs> kathine debian wouldnt be a step backwards would it lol
[03:53] <ohsix> Herbs: no need for ad hominem or calling people names, if you have a question ask it; or please be quiet, or take your outbursts to #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:54] <arand> Herbs: Please, you are not being very friendly here..
[03:54] <OchoZero9> I want to like unity, but it's a mission to start it
[03:54] <usr13> dasy2k1: ok... yea
[03:54] <ohsix> cylob: how did you install it?
[03:54] <xsinick> but why is there less stuff
[03:54] <anonemoose> Does anyone know, can Brasero burn DVD+Rs compatible with consumer DVD players? If not, what's a program that can?
[03:54] <xsinick> ?
[03:54] <Herbs> oshix she started
[03:54] <cylob> ohsix: just downloaded it from google and double clicked
[03:54] <OchoZero9> Herbs: maybe you are understating the number of steps
[03:54] <kathie> Herbs, this chat is probably the most helpful place. Idiots like you were never tolerated
[03:54] <Herbs> Im responding as I always will
[03:54] <ohsix> Herbs: i didn't even say what she said; and it doesn't matter
[03:54] <dasy2k1> anonemoose:  should be compatable
[03:54] <ncg> hey
[03:54] <xsinick> I had to change to classic mode to get to customize my tool bar
[03:54] <ncg> can , iask a question here?
[03:55] <xangua> kathie: you can still use 'clasic' gnome desktop i believe
[03:55] <anonemoose> Dasy2k1 I'm just checking here, I don't want to waste any of these
[03:55] <mordof> ncg: don't ask to ask, just ask
[03:55] <xsinick> and to stop it from doubling on  my dual screens
[03:55] <dasy2k1> ncg dont ask to ask , just ask
[03:55] <anonemoose> ncg sure go ahead! It's why we're here
[03:55] <ncg> thanx
[03:55] <rileyp> ncg will you be nice to us?
 I've been using Ubuntu for four years now. I'm finding this new release harder to use. You have to search for programs?
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[03:55] <FloodBot3> Herbs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:55] <ncg> okay
 http://fossplanet.com/f10/%5Bbug-757720%5D-re-ubi-partman-crashes-exit-code-141-during-liveinstall-143862/
[03:55] <ohsix> cylob: you might be interested in googleearth-package, it will make a .deb for you, it's cleaner to install and remove that way; also it will depend on, and thus install fonts it depends on
[03:55] <OchoZero9> xangua: yes. that's what I was on just a few minutes ago
[03:55] <cylob> ubuntu is the only linux distro ive found where my usb wireless dongle internet JUST WORKS
[03:55] <ncg> i was upgrading my ubuntu to 11.04
[03:55] <kathie> xangua, I seen that. I'm going to try to get used to this since it looks like it's going to be the new standard
[03:55] <usr13> afroman: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sdx bs=1024 ; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=1024 ; dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdx bs=1024 ; etc (5 more times)
[03:55] <ncg> then my lap power off
[03:55] <cylob> ohsix: is that in the software center?
[03:55] <xsinick> I'm gonna switch back to unity  and take screen shots of problems
[03:56] <rileyp> ncg yyyeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssss  annnnnnnnnnnnddddddd
[03:56] <ohsix> cylob: yea, it's also the package name if you just want to apt-get install it
[03:56] <usr13> afroman: or 4 more times.... (never was very good with math.)
[03:56] <mordof> ncg: try not to hit Enter so much, with the amount of talking your problem won't get noticed as easily
[03:56] <KM0201> kathie: it takes some getting used to, but once you get the hang of it, it's really not bad.... i chose to switch to xfce, rather than deal w/ unity any longer
[03:56] <teddyroosebelt> boy that upgrade really did a number on my box :(
[03:56] <kathie> An op should boot Herbs, he is really annoying
[03:56] <ohsix> cylob: it contains make-googleearth-package, which you run to make the .deb for you
[03:56] <usr13> afroman: Something like that anyway.
[03:56] <yi`zhi> oooh i just remembered something important (to me at least): will i be able to type in korean, chinese, and japanese when i upgrade?
[03:56] <arand> kathie: I guess the idea is to steer towards using the keyborad, which seems to be faster in the end.. I'm not sure I like it either, but that's Unity for you..
[03:56] <ohsix> KM0201: you know about the classic session right?
[03:56] <rileyp> xfce rocks so simple and never fails
[03:56] <yi`zhi> i use the keyboard input methods thing on 10.10
[03:56] <stbain1> teddyroosebelt, yah, me too (both laptop and desktop). Had to blow one away... trying to salvage the other now.
[03:57] <yi`zhi> will that still be around when i upgrade?
[03:57] <Herbs> for what exactly I have said ubuntu is good
[03:57] <ncg> and when i rebooted , this error appeared : init: playmouth mainprocess (61) killed by SEGV signal
[03:57] <ncg> ?!
[03:57] <mordof> how do i put someone on ignore in irssi? lol
[03:57] <ohsix> Herbs: do you have a question, please take your outbursts elsewhere
[03:57] <KM0201> ohsix: yeah.. but i figure gnome 3 is coming out.. probably in november.. and my laptop is an old crappy one.. .i knew i'd ahve to make the switch eventually, so 11.04 was as good as any>. :)
[03:57] <soreau> gosh darn it why can't they just put the icons on all menus already
[03:57] <mickster04> mordof: /SET IGNORE XXX perhaps?
[03:57] <ohsix> ncg: nvidia or ati card?
[03:57] <dasy2k1> yi`zhi: it will be there somwhere, but if you are using unity it may take some finding!
[03:57] <multipass> in 11.04 gnome-- how do i make cursor over edge flip workspace or move windows to otherworspaces(compiz fusion settings used to let me do this in 10.10)?
[03:57] <fezzik02> error: unsupported RAID level: 255??
[03:57] <teddyroosebelt> stbain1, ya.. i lost my box. im reinstalling with a old disk now. shame on me for upgrading haha
[03:57] <mordof> oh hey, /ignore works, lol
[03:57] <mordof> yay no more Herbs ^-^
[03:57] <soreau> How can you get icons to appear on System menu in gnome-panel?
[03:57] <yi`zhi> dasy2k1, what do you mean? i can't search synaptic or something?
[03:57] <mickster04> mordof: he can still see you though -_-
[03:58] <ohsix> KM0201: the panel and stuff will stay around for a long time, even with gnome-shell
[03:58] <mordof> mickster04: i don't care :p he's been told many times he's being annoying and needs to stop
[03:58]  * yi`zhi is a nublet
[03:58] <arand> soreau: That's a gnome feature you know :þ
[03:58] <kathie> KM0201, arand, I guess it's like anything else, just going to take some getting used to. Is there anyway to add things to the panel?
[03:58] <mordof> mickster04: maybe if 3/4 of the channel ignores him he'll get the picture
[03:58] <KM0201> ohsix: dunno, the gnome 3 panel i tried, looked totally different
[03:58] <mordof> or.. just ramble to himself *shrugs*
[03:58] <ohsix> KM0201: i hesitate to say indefinitely but i can't see some developers leave it behind
[03:58] <arand> soreau: You Can find that in gconf somewhere.
[03:58] <Herbs> ohshix im helping yuour punters I did have an ubuntu specific question last night that no one could answer Im a red hat admin
[03:58] <Ash-catchem> ubuntu freezes when I connect to my router....any ideas?
[03:58] <wurfs> soreau: happened to me - reboot and icons are there
[03:58] <soreau> arand: Yea, I know that. I was asking where
[03:58] <soreau> wurfs: It's a gconf key somewhere
[03:58] <KM0201> kathie: i couldn't figure out how to, but you can create anothe rpanel, and add items to it... (i think).. and just set it to auto hide
[03:58] <yi`zhi> Herbs, seriously, as long as you aren't flooding the channel, who cares what you type?
[03:58] <soreau> How can you get icons to appear on System menu in gnome-panel?
[03:58] <Herbs> the only thing about debian/ubuntu is stop moving things lol
[03:58] <arand> kathie: you use "add to favourites" to add items.
[03:59] <dasy2k1> yi`zhi:  easy to install things as before but the interface is a bit differnt, if you use classic it will be exactly where you expect it tho
[03:59] <yi`zhi> ah ok
[03:59] <anonemoose> So, has anyone had any experiences with Brasero messing up DVD+R, making it incompatible?
[03:59] <afroman> thx
[03:59] <yi`zhi> dasy2k1, do you have suggestions for switching language inputs? or is keyboard input methods the best one?
[03:59] <arand> soreau: /desktop/gnome/interface/menus_have_icons
[03:59] <Ivan96485> Hello, how can I save everything that is currently in my RAM?
[03:59] <yi`zhi> i like it because i can CTRL+space and type in 한글
[03:59] <kathie> KM0201, arand, Ok, thanks for the help! I'm going to go play a little more. Ubuntu still ROCKS!!
[04:00] <soreau> arand: thanks
[04:00] <robin0800> kathie, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/
[04:00] <soreau> that was it
[04:00] <afroman> usr13: thx
[04:00] <fezzik02> Can anyone explain how GRUB is reinstalled
[04:00] <usr13> afroman: np
[04:00] <dasy2k1> anonemoose: only if you accedentally tick keep the disc open... (excepting the normal amount of coasters that you get with any dvd buring)
[04:00] <afroman> dasy2k1: thx
[04:00] <ohsix> anonemoose: i'm not sure what part would "make" it incompatible, it tries very hard to make images/disks that will play in dvd players; what problem are you having?
[04:00] <mickster04> !grub | fezzik02
[04:00] <bittyx-laptop> now that yi`zhi has mentioned language inputs - in my win7 i use alt+shift+1 for english, alt+shift+2 for serbian/latin, etc. and i prefer to access them directly like this, rather then cycle through them with a single shortcut. is this possible to do in ubuntu?
[04:00] <dasy2k1> fezzik02:  via grub-install normally
[04:01] <kathie> robin0800, thanks!
[04:01] <fezzik02> Ok, but Ubuntu doesn't actually boot.
[04:01] <arand> fezzik02: There is a section on the wiki about reinstalling, I would go with the chroot option.
[04:01] <afroman> dasy2k1: usr13: but is there another way to wipe out just the empty space?
[04:01] <usr13> fezzik02: You boot the live CD and then mount the root filesystem (where / is) and chroot to it and then re-install grub boot loader (properly or ... whatever).  Something like that anyway.
[04:01] <soreau> Great. I went to remove my name from the panel and the entire right side disappeared
[04:01] <anonemoose> ohsix none yet, fingers crossed I won't. I just have a _very_ limited supply of DVD+R discs, and I don't want to waste any that I don't have to... and I make disco balls out of my ruined discs...
[04:01] <KM0201> fezzik02: read the link, you have to do all that from a live cd
[04:01] <JoshuaYoshua> Hi
[04:01] <ohsix> bittyx-laptop: iirc you can assign shortcuts to each ime in the options
[04:01] <usr13> !grub2 | fezzik02
[04:01] <mickster04> fezzik02: well the restoregrub link ois for you then
[04:01] <mickster04> is*
[04:02] <ohsix> anonemoose: ahh, well in that case make brasero burn to an .iso image file; then burn that to the disk
[04:02] <rpk> Can I check the cd for defects in 11.04?
[04:02] <usr13> ooops sorry someone already did that.  Was typing when should have been reading.... sorry.
[04:02] <rpk> to see if thats the cause of the error
[04:02] <mickster04> !md5 | rpk
[04:02] <ohsix> anonemoose: then you can skip the huge transcoding task in the middle if you have to try again
[04:02] <anonemoose> ohsix thanks, I'll keep that in mind!
[04:02] <rpk> I meant the burned cd?
[04:02] <Ivan96485> Is there a way to save the data that is currently on my RAM?
[04:02] <dasy2k1> afroman:  not sure why you would want to do that. if you want to delete things use shred -u
[04:02] <rpk> like the old installers had a "Check cd for defects" option
[04:02] <fezzik02> mickster4, Ok, I've done restoregrub about six times, no fix
[04:02] <daniel> how do i burn movies with ubuntu i do everything in brasero then when i click burn it just closes
[04:02] <amorton> Ivan96485, why would you want to?
[04:03] <rpk> I assume its still there, just hidden now?
[04:03] <dasy2k1> rpk still there, you just have to press esc as soon as you see the brown screen
[04:03] <KM0201> fezzik02: then either your ubuntu install is gone, or you're not doing it correctly
[04:03] <mickster04> Ivan96485: not natively no... or hybernate kinda does?
[04:03] <Ash-catchem> ubuntu freezes when I connect to my router....any ideas?
[04:03] <ohsix> bittyx-laptop: ah i just looked, just enable/disable and next/previous
[04:03] <rpk> dasy2k1: thanks
[04:03] <xsinick> robin0800:  smartphone generation that will learn later and add that shit back
[04:03] <Ivan96485> Well, a friend forgot to save a paper that is due tomorrow.
[04:03] <soreau> wtf guys? I tried to remove my name from the panel and all the information on the right side disappeared. Adding Notification Applet does not bring it back
[04:03] <ohsix> bittyx-laptop: maybe something other than ibus can do bindings like you want
[04:03] <fezzik02> km0201, I'm pretty sure it's there, I just installed it this afternoon.
[04:03] <anonemoose> Ivan96485, what was he using? Openoffice has a recover function
[04:04] <ohsix> !resetpanels | soreau
[04:04] <fezzik02> When I go to recovery console and select failsafex, it works...
[04:04] <bittyx-laptop> ohsix: yeah, that's what i've been finding as well, hence the question. i realized it's not built-in, but was wondering if there was some hack to make it work like that.
[04:04] <JoshuaYoshua> Does anyone have any advice for burning a disc when you DVD drive might be poor. It's just that I've written Ubuntu 11.04 twice now and I have the burning software validate the disc after and I can open it and see or the files... but after I restart it's not detected when booting and when I try to view the files on the disc it doesn't detect anything.
[04:04] <amorton> Ivan96485, if he closed the software he was using its gone
[04:04] <dasy2k1> springscar: its an indicator applett session you have removed
[04:04] <Ivan96485> amorton: Thanks
[04:04] <JoshuaYoshua> I can see by physically looking at the disc that it has been written to. So I don't know
[04:04] <robin0800> xsinick, you can set it to all then all will be shown
[04:04] <Omega> LibreOffice also has a recover function
[04:04] <mickster04> \!md5 | JoshuaYoshua
[04:04] <xsinick> why do I have to install the appelet stuff back when the system already have it in classic mode
[04:04] <KM0201> fezzik02: if it can't find grub to update/reinstall it.. or you're doing it wrong
[04:04] <Omega> !md5 | JoshuaYoshua
[04:04] <xsinick> >:(
[04:04] <ohsix> bittyx-laptop: i know the other one can do it, i can't even remember the name at the moment though, i've been using them through ibus for so long
[04:05] <amorton> I dont think any of those work if you have never saved the doc, am i wrong?
[04:05] <usr13> JoshuaYoshua: turn your speed down I guess is the only advice I can think of.  Or maybe try different CD burning software?
[04:05] <soreau> ohsix: Smooth move, the panels disappeared and now there are *no* panels
[04:05] <fezzik02> km0201, it seems to find GRUB2 just fine
[04:05] <JoshuaYoshua> Well the ISO passes the md5 check, checked that
[04:05] <dasy2k1> JoshuaYoshua: boot the disk, then hit escape when you see the first ubuntu screen, then use check disc for defects
[04:05] <Ivan96485> He was using a program called pages for the mac, since both linux and ubuntu are unix-based I thought you guys would be more helpful than a mac chat.
[04:05] <KM0201> fezzik02: then you're not installing it correctly
[04:05] <anonemoose> amorton OO periodically saves it to a temporary file in case there's a fatal error
[04:05] <Flynsarmy> hey guys i'm doing a "tar cC /path/to/files ." which tars the entire folder but inside the tar file everything is in a '.' subfolder...how can i remove that subfolder?
[04:05] <Omega> soreau: start gnome-panel
[04:05] <usr13> JoshuaYoshua: What software are you using?
[04:05] <amorton> well, then Ivan96485 that would be his best bet
[04:05] <fezzik02> km0201: I don't think Ubiquity really leaves room for doubt
[04:05] <ohsix> soreau: your session manager should have restarted them
[04:05] <soreau> Omega: It was running
[04:05] <Omega> type gnome-panel in a console
[04:05] <daniel> how do i burn movies with ubuntu i do everything in brasero then when i click burn it just closes
[04:05] <soreau> Omega: ohsix: I had to restart it again
[04:06] <ohsix> soreau: if you've got some brain death going on there i don't know what to tell you
[04:06] <KM0201> fezzik02: i'ev reinstalled grub from a live cd, following those instructions, a gazillion times... so i know they are right.,.
[04:06] <bittyx-laptop> ohsix: okay, i'll look it up if it's possible. thanks for the heads up, good to know it's possible.
[04:06] <daniel> is there a better program to use to burn movies
[04:06] <soreau> ohsix: Hey, don't make rude comments to me
[04:06] <afroman> dasy2k1: so is there a way?
[04:06] <sebsebseb> daniel: try K3B I guess
[04:06] <usr13> daniel: You could try k3b
[04:06] <Ivan96485> Still, I would like to know how to save the data on the ram, is there a way to do that on ubuntu?
[04:06] <ChronicSyncope> well dont ask me how, but somehow i got desktop cube working now.
[04:06] <fezzik02> km0201: You can reinstall GRUB2 from Live CD?
[04:06] <dasy2k1> afroman:  probabbly. but i dont know it off the top of my head GIYF
[04:06] <xsinick> the problem is that some dev try to make it an apple
[04:06] <Herbs> daniel try running brasero from a terminal should give you stderror then
[04:06] <ohsix> soreau: i meant with whatever session manager, or lack thereof that you are running
[04:06] <KM0201> fezzik02: have you listeneed to a word thats been said, or even bothered to read that link you were given to, like 5x?
[04:06] <ChronicSyncope> why do menu-items look so ugly when i right-click on them?
[04:07] <JoshuaYoshua> The burning software in Windows 7
[04:07] <Ziber> Is there a way in ubuntu 10.10 to use skype without making the audio stuff be via pulse audio?
[04:07] <arand> fezzik02: Yes you can.
[04:07] <xsinick> becuase they never used linux before and is accustome to  MAc os
[04:07] <JoshuaYoshua> I will try ImgBurn next, but think it will be the same
 soreau: if you've got some brain death going on there i don't know what to tell you <-- I find this very rude and offensive
[04:07] <afroman> usr13: do U know a way to wipe out just the empty space?
[04:07] <KM0201> !grub | fezzik02 now stop asking questions, and read the link
[04:07] <soreau> ohsix: Do not make rude comments to me
[04:07] <bouma> giday, when i use chmod -R 660 dir  , after chown myuser:myuser -R dir, i can no longer enter the contained dirs with nautilus ? why ?
[04:07] <usr13> fezzik02: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[04:07] <dasy2k1> JoshuaYoshua: ahh, windows default software will most likley just burn the .iso as a single file to a data disk rather then burn the iso to the disk as an image
[04:07] <JoshuaYoshua> I say this because I had trouble with some other things
[04:07] <ohsix> soreau: what session manager are you running? it should have restarted the panel
[04:07] <Strav> Hi. I just upgraded my ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 (arch is amd64, running an amd e350 apu), the grub menu is gone and while ubuntu still starts to boot, at some point, the screen gets no signal and shut itself off (I cannot access the VTs in this state). Any suggestion on which bug/s I'm having here? (don't want to report a duplicate)
[04:08] <Ziber> !skype
[04:08] <usr13> afroman: Is this empty space at the end of the drive or in the middle or the end?
[04:08] <bouma> i meant, when i use chmod -R 660 dir  , after chown -R myuser:myuser dir, i can no longer enter the contained dirs with nautilus ? why ?
[04:08] <JoshuaYoshua> dasy2k1, nah it burns it as it should
[04:08] <thien> drwxr-xr-x 5 thien root 4096 2011-04-29 01:13 Setup
[04:08] <thien> ==> what is "d"?
[04:08] <soreau> ohsix: Leave me alone because you are not helping
[04:08] <ohsix> thien: directory
[04:08] <fezzik02> Ok, I'm off to try that.
[04:08] <bouma> thien: dir
[04:08] <KM0201> geez..
[04:08] <thien> ok
[04:08] <ChronicSyncope> wtf happened to the minimize to desktop applet for gnome?
[04:08] <ohsix> soreau: i do not know why your panel didn't restart then, not without that information, i'm sorry it didn't
[04:08] <soreau> I need to know why, when I try to remove my name from gnome-panel, it removes the entire right side of the panel info
[04:08] <ChronicSyncope> nvm. i'm stupid.
[04:08] <soreau> ohsix: Don't talk to me
[04:08] <soreau> /ignore ohsix
[04:08] <soreau> err..
[04:09] <bouma> thien: i think it can also have other letters eg special files like "network" sockets eg
[04:09] <KM0201> !stupid | ChronicSyncope
[04:09] <ohsix> !ot | soreau
[04:09] <sebsebseb> soreau: in Unity or   Ubuntu Classic Desktop?
[04:09] <Nostromo> Upgraded from 10.10 to natty, backlight on laptop no longer worked (could only read the screen with a flashlight). Wiped and installed fresh, same problem. No backlight. Anyone have any idea how to fix?
[04:09] <xsinick> ubuntu is operating slower
[04:09] <soreau> sebsebseb: Classic gnome-panel
[04:09] <afroman> usr13: I don't know ... the free space on a partition
[04:09] <Strav> (besides: I tried to reinstall grub from a usb 10.10 install by chrooting into my failed 11.04, and using apt-get and grub-update from there... no luck)
[04:09] <bouma> thien: but im trying to figure out my own simplish chmod quandry ! see previous msg's
[04:09] <ChronicSyncope> lol KM0201
[04:09] <ohsix> Nostromo: wiped and installed natty again?
[04:09] <sebsebseb> soreau: I think Canonial have set it up like that or something
[04:09] <Nostromo> ohsix: yes.
[04:09] <KM0201> ChronicSyncope: :)
[04:09] <usr13> afroman: If it is at the beginning and you can calculate exactly how many bytes to write to, I suppose yes you could, but if it's a section in the middle... well... if you don't know I don't either.
[04:09] <ohsix> Nostromo: that's unfortunately a common problem, intel video right?
[04:09] <sebsebseb> soreau: they want you to use the Gnome 2 patches
[04:09] <soreau> sebsebseb: You're not helping either
[04:09] <Nostromo> ohsix: correct
[04:10] <ohsix> soreau: don't badger people
[04:10] <soreau> I want to know why when trying to remove my name from gnome-panel, the entire right side of everything disappears
[04:10] <stbain1> anyone else running a Broadcom wireless having trouble getting it going (even w/ proprietary firmware driver)?
[04:10] <Nostromo> ohsix: please tell me there is a solution... /praying
[04:10] <xsinick> this is the worst ubuntu ever
[04:10] <sebsebseb> soreau: a bug or feature I guess
[04:10] <bouma> well was hoping for a quick fix but RL calls. check ya l8r
[04:10] <ohsix> Nostromo: ok, you can try installing xorg-edgers and running the kernel they package, it has updated driver components
[04:10] <arand> soreau: The whole thing is one big applet
[04:10] <ChronicSyncope> xsinick, it's been released officially for a day, relax
[04:10] <soreau> arand: Yes how do you edit it?
[04:10] <Strav> Anyone?
[04:10] <kyle___> is there a bug with installing from the latest ubuntu cd's????
[04:10] <soreau> arand: And what is the applet called?
[04:10] <ohsix> Nostromo: but it might not, and you'll need to file a bug; i've told 3 people to file today so it should be getting lots of attention :]
[04:10] <fezzik02> xsinick, I think it could be a veritable Waterloo
[04:11] <arand> soreau: I think you can disable things by uninstalling packages, hmm.
[04:11] <ohsix> kyle___: yes but you won't tell us what it is!
[04:11] <Nostromo> ohsix: fairly new to this, and have to do it by flashlight. Is there an easy command line thingy to type?
[04:11] <usr13> afroman: free space on a partition?  That is a contradiction of terms.
[04:11] <sebsebseb> soreau: I think they have linked it together much more than it was before,  altough only tried that in beta 2, not the 11.04 final yet
[04:11] <kyle___> mainly they dont work
[04:11] <Herbs> well googled ossix
[04:11] <Drone4four> For some reason ALT+F3 doesn't prompt the run dialog box.  wtf? i checked keyboard shortcuts and there is no entry for run dialogue.  how do I get my run dialog back?
[04:11] <Ziber> how can i test my mic in ubuntu?
[04:11] <xsinick> I understand you guys
[04:11] <kyle___> ive tried 32 bit and 64 bit on 3 different pc's  none of them boot
[04:11] <sebsebseb> soreau: it may not be like 10.04, where you can remove some of the stuff, without removing all of it
[04:11] <soreau> Sliker[Bed]: It is a rude comment to me
[04:11] <afroman> usr13: what do U mean?
[04:11] <soreau> I don't care what you think
[04:11] <dasy2k1> Drone4four: its alt+F2
[04:11] <Drone4four> i meant to say alt f2
[04:11] <Drone4four> alt f2 doesn't work
[04:11] <sebsebseb> soreau: oh what a lovely attitude you have for this channel
[04:11] <soreau> sebsebseb: Yes it's not like 10.10
[04:11] <usr13> afroman: Free space refers to an un-partitioned area on a hard drive.
[04:12] <lsheeba> Greetings all , i downloaded the torrent alternate i386 file , i dont have cd's , can i still upgrade from this file i have
[04:12] <xsinick> I understand but to be honest I smell Mac OS  snobbery on my beloved Unbuntu
[04:12] <ohsix> Nostromo: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa in a terminal
[04:12] <soreau> sebsebseb: You didn't see what he msg'd me
[04:12] <Rehan> how's it going usr13
[04:12] <soreau> arand: But what is the applet called?
[04:12] <Ziber> Anyone have mic problems with skype in 10.10?
[04:12] <Nostromo> ohsix: you're my hero
[04:12] <dasy2k1> Drone4four:  are you using unity or classic?
[04:12] <Drone4four> classic
[04:12] <xsinick> I got to check this out]
[04:12] <ohsix> Nostromo: then apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[04:12] <bittyx-laptop> okay, i've installed 11.04, and everything went smoothly, then i rebooted, got to the login screen, entered my password, and all the controls disappeared - now i only see a purplish background and my mouse cursor and nothing's happening (for about 2 minutes now)
[04:12] <Herbs> ohsix why should he add a repo because you say?
[04:12] <ChronicSyncope> what key is KP5 in compiz?
[04:12] <afroman> usr13: I don't think we understand each other
[04:12] <bittyx-laptop> any ideas?
[04:12] <ohsix> Nostromo: it might not fix it
[04:12] <xsinick> I may be a gnome problem
[04:13] <dasy2k1> Drone4four:  working for me, you could allways add the run applet to the panel
[04:13] <ChronicSyncope> nvm. it's the keypad
[04:13] <kyle___> ok ill rephrase,  is there a bug with the latest install cd's mainly that they dont work, ive tried them on 3 different pc's and they wont boot,  kinda makes me worried to upgrade over the net, can anyone confirm this?
[04:13] <Nostromo> ohsix: I'll cross my fingers. Would have reported bug already but seems the registration server is overloaded
[04:13] <soreau> I want to know why when trying to remove my name from gnome-panel, the entire right side of everything disappears
[04:13] <usr13> afroman: The best thing I can tell you is to make an image of  your drive, (on a usb drive would be one option), and then wipe it clean, and then copy the image back on the drive.
[04:13] <ohsix> Nostromo: and in any case if it worked, it would just be something to report with the bug, because the fix needs to get from the updated drivers to the version included in ubuntu
[04:13] <Drone4four> dasy2k1, i'll try adding the run applet to my panel
[04:13] <Nostromo> ohsix: noted
[04:13] <sebsebseb> soreau: I thik it's meant to, like I said before,  Canonical want you to use that stuff
[04:13] <ohsix> soreau: it's part of a hueg combo applet
[04:13] <arand> soreau: indicator-applet I think, and the element have names similar..
[04:13] <dasy2k1> soreau: thats because its one applet, indicator applet session
[04:13] <Herbs> never add a repo someone tells you to without good reason!
[04:14] <bittyx-laptop> how can i force ubuntu to get me back to the login screen (if it's possible)?
[04:14] <afroman> usr13: on a partion, there is used space (containning the data) and free space. I want to wipe out clean just the free space so that nothing can be retrieved.
[04:14] <Drone4four> ty dasy2k1
[04:14] <kyle___> anyone?
[04:14] <soreau> ohsix: sebsebseb: arand: dasy2k1: How can I edit it though?
[04:14] <dasy2k1> bittyx-laptop: alt+printscreen then K
[04:14] <Ivan96485> Does folding@home wortk on 11.04?
[04:14] <soreau> I don't want all that crap in my panel
[04:14] <ohsix> Herbs: it contains updated drivers, it is semi official in ubuntu, they have a bleeding edge and stable driver update ppa; and all the people rolling packages in it are ubuntu developers
[04:14] <sebsebseb> soreau: you may be able to remove an applet for it, but  something tells me, it's not as customisable as before
[04:14] <ohsix> soreau: if you don't want the big one add the ones the big ones include
[04:14] <multipass> gnome was way better than unity
[04:15] <multipass> :|
[04:15] <bittyx-laptop> dasy2k1: heh, thanks.
[04:15] <arand> soreau: I think you can install certain parts of it, e.g. "indicator-messages"
[04:15] <Herbs> ohsix thats cool maybe mention it though
[04:15] <bittyx-laptop> dasy2k1: only problem - now my mouse doesn't work :s
[04:15] <sebsebseb> multipass: you can use Gnome Shell in 11.04 :)
[04:15] <bittyx-laptop> the keyboard works, though...
[04:15] <ChronicSyncope> wow resizing windows the "normal" way with compiz doesn't seem to be working right.
[04:15] <multipass> sebsebseb, yeah i am, i tried using unity for a few hours.. hmm
[04:15] <ohsix> multipass: gnome is still there, it's 99.99% of what ubuntu is, unity is 0.001%, a plugin for a window manager, compiz; and you can pick the classic session from the login screen
[04:15] <ohsix> Herbs: that elaboration was for you, i didn't need to justify suggesting it
[04:15] <usr13> afroman: Let's say you create a gziped image of the drive, you can delete the partitions, write zeros to it a bunch of times, write the image back onto the drive.
[04:15] <dasy2k1> soreau:  just add the old applets you want, indicator applet rather than indicator applet complete
[04:16] <soreau> dasy2k1: arand: ok
[04:16] <multipass> i dont think the "file menu bar" should be at the top for every window, very inconvenient imo
[04:16] <lsheeba> guys any1 ,  i downloaded the torrent alternate i386 file , i dont have cd's , can i still upgrade from this file i have
[04:16] <kyle___> does anyone know?
[04:16] <ChogyDan> lsheeba: yeah
[04:16] <lsheeba> ChogyDan, how?!
[04:16] <xsinick> I think there needs to be and Ubuntu  12 pronto this is begining to look like a big epic fail for the first time in it's history
[04:16] <shane4ubuntu> Ok, I'm starting to learn Unity, I found there are many indicators that can be added up in the corner, how do I add them?
[04:16] <Strav> I can't believe how much nerd rage a left sided docker can bring.
[04:16] <ohsix> multipass: versions for review had been available for a very long time before the release; any particular reason why you are reporting your issues with the decisions made now, and on a help channel?
[04:16] <Herbs> ohsix why not if we carry on in this way we will be more insucure than windows
[04:16] <afroman> usr13: I get that. but can U just write zeros on JUST The free space?
[04:16] <dasy2k1> lsheeba:  if you have a working install of ubuntu i would just use update manager
[04:17] <Herbs> yeah install this from the rwepos box owened
[04:17] <lsheeba> dasy2k1, but my internet is slow
[04:17] <ohsix> Herbs: sure why not, it's not as if ppa's aren't signed by the uploader like any other pakcage
[04:17] <ChogyDan> lsheeba: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MaverickUpgrades#Upgrading Using the Alternate CD/DVD
[04:17] <kyle___> ok ill rephrase, is there a bug with the latest install cd's mainly that they dont work, ive tried them on 3 different pc's and they wont boot, kinda makes me worried to upgrade over the net, can anyone confirm this?
[04:17] <multipass> ohsix, well i was excited about it, and i just dont know if i could ever use it now that ive seen it
[04:17] <shane4ubuntu> This page discusses the indicators, but doesn't seem to explain how to add them to the 'notification area?"
[04:17] <shane4ubuntu> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/
[04:17] <stbain1> lsheeba, if you do that... make sure you have everything backed up. Update manager bricked both of my computers. Have the CD downloaded and burnt in case you have to re-install from scratch.
[04:17] <dasy2k1> kyle___: install cd (64 bit) workd fine for me
[04:17] <Strav> anyways... anyone can boot the amd images?
[04:17] <Herbs> yur not targeting Linux usesrs though but windows migraters
[04:18] <Strav> dasy2k1: you used the amd64 images?
[04:18] <fezzik02> I can't boot the AMD image :(
[04:18] <ohsix> multipass: that's unfortunate, now that natty has shipped they're working on oneiric though; if you want to try and get your input taken as part of it's development, now's the time to start doing it :D
[04:18] <kyle___> i cant boot any image
[04:18] <lsheeba> ChogyDan, thanks i didnt read it carefuly before :D about wasting cd's :D
[04:18] <mordof> Strav: amd images? how would i tell if i've done that? i upgraded from 10.10
[04:18] <bittyx-laptop> dasy2k1: hey, after i've logged in again, i'm in unity now, and the mouse started working. thanks again for the quick tip!
[04:18] <Ash-catchem> ubuntu keeps freezing/crashing...any ideas why????
[04:18] <izinucs> ohsix: what's oneiric?
[04:18] <xsinick> look  you can hide feature  and focus on others make optons for things in the new  interface but don't just throw them away
[04:18] <mordof> Strav: i booted the live cd amd image..
[04:19] <arand> kyle___: Many have used them succesfully, I'm not sure of a general issue with that no.
[04:19] <dasy2k1> Ash-catchem:  try running memtest, random crashes are often caused by bad ram
[04:19] <lsheeba> stbain1, i upgraded it online , and then canceled about 1/4 of the way
[04:19] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: ok
[04:19] <mordof> Strav: didn't install from it though, i ran the live from it
[04:19] <ohsix> stbain1: generally you have to have a lot of user changes for it to break; user changes you should undo before you upgrade, next time come around i'll tell you how to fix it, rather than just telling people to be careful since you had a bad experience
[04:19] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: ok by the looks of it, that's for Ubuntu Classic Desktop not Unity
[04:19] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: and it does say how to install using the ppa's
[04:19] <ohsix> izinucs: the next release code name
[04:19] <Spaz_Dynamic> for running jar archives (example: minecraft) what should I get? openjdk, or gcj?
[04:19] <Ash-catchem> dasy2k1: i did the ramtest and it was fine
[04:19] <xsinick> why does blender span into the other workspaces  on windowed mode?
[04:19] <izinucs> ohsix: AH.. didn't know that
[04:19] <ohsix> Spaz_Dynamic: openjdk
[04:19] <stbain1> ohsix, just about everything on both of my systems was default
[04:19] <ncg> sorry for the disconnection thing , so my problem was this error appeared when i rebooted  >> init : playmouth main process (61) killed by SEGV signal
[04:19] <JoshuaYoshua> cyas
[04:19] <xsinick> I switch to classic and it's the same nonsense
[04:20] <multipass> ohsix, reguardless, i like some of the additions to ubuntu 11.04 =) mainly iphone support
[04:20] <Spaz_Dynamic> ohsix: Alright, thanks.
[04:20] <ohsix> stbain1: i'll take your word for it; like i said, next time, i don't know the circumstances for when it broke for you
[04:20] <lsheeba> stbain1, if it bricked like u say , atleast can i boot my windows7 , and do it from their later ?
[04:20] <usr13> afroman: There's no other way I know of.  But for just one partition, you could make an image of it and then write zeros to just that partition and then restore the image of that one partition.
[04:20] <shane4ubuntu> sebsebseb: but it seems to indicate that those come with 11.04, and reading the article I thought it was unity.
[04:20] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: also really what they are telling you, that you can install, is a load of junk
[04:20] <Strav> mordof: ok, well I too upgraded from 10.10 (arch: amd64, e350 apu actually) and grub is gone and the screen gets no signal while the boot sequence is checking out the battery (I'm on a desktop so this too is kinda strange). You read anything about something similar... I'm actually browsing launchpad to find something relevant.
[04:20] <afroman> usr13: thx
[04:20] <mordof> shane4ubuntu: yeah, those are with unity
[04:20] <ohsix> multipass: you probably just want to use the classic session instead of unity then, pick it on the login screen
[04:20] <mordof> shane4ubuntu: i was reading that also
[04:20] <stbain1> lsheeba, yes, if you have Grub running already, you should be able to fall back to that
[04:20] <usr13> afroman: Let's say it is sda3
[04:21] <sebsebseb> stbain1: well the shut down on top right, and envelope is also in Unity, but that's in classic by default, and what is mentioned there, none of that comes with 11.04
[04:21] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: ^
[04:21] <shane4ubuntu> mordof: I think I figured it out, you need to install them, I searched for indicator, and was able to look at them, however have to reboot in order to activate them.
[04:21] <multipass> ohsix, yeah already set to default.. maybe ill try unity again sometime.. kinda felt weird without a window manager
[04:21] <robin0800> shane4ubuntu, double click to start them one off or add to the startup applications
[04:21] <ChogyDan> lsheeba: just make sure not to delete the ubuntu partition if you are using grub
[04:21] <Fandekasp> hi
[04:21] <izinucs> Strav: in the last 6 years I've learned to have a separate /home and simply "install" from cd, usb whatever to the root instead of upgrading..
[04:21] <mordof> Strav: hmm, nah nothing like that happened to me. grub failed, but i reinstalled it
[04:21] <sebsebseb> shane4ubuntu: there's loads of junk you can add to Ubuntu, and that site useually tells people about it
[04:21] <shane4ubuntu> robin0800: ahh, startup menu
[04:22] <superproxy> how long does it take for the installation of natty  to finnish
[04:22] <Herbs> listen the harsh lesson is if you installed 112.04 then if its buggy tough shite dont install non LFS
[04:22] <sebsebseb> superproxy: depends on the computer, should be about 20  minutes to half an hour on most
[04:22] <Fandekasp> I tried to configure the 3d desktop for ubuntu 11.04, and it broke some display settings. and now ... after restarting, everything is hidden, i can't see any menu bar any more.  the only thing I see is the background image ... and I can do ctrl+alt+mouse to switch between empty desktops ... Do you know what should I do to put back the previous settings ? I can open a shell with ctrl+alt+f1
[04:22] <shane4ubuntu> sebsebseb: it is for unity the first paragraph explains the doing away with the Application Panel indicators, and the new entry of indicators.
[04:22] <izinucs> superproxy: clean system fresh install?  about 30 minutes or so.. then you do all the upgrades in one shot
[04:22] <lsheeba> ChogyDan, :< now u pulling my socks , should i upgrade or not lol , i wanted gnome3 but i heard its unstabled at this point , and Gnome4 will be the future of Gnome and not 3
[04:22] <superproxy> mine is stuck at  saving installed packages
[04:22] <ohsix> superproxy: a long time, depends on the computer & internet connection; mine took like 2 hours but i had lots of packages installed
[04:22] <mordof> superproxy: it took about an hour and a half on my computer
[04:23] <multipass> ohsix, i had a opengl game going in unity and it didnt have a top bar to drag it around, and there was no icon to signify it was even open
[04:23] <mordof> yeah i had 1500 packages to install, lol
[04:23] <Strav> izinucs: I always make a seperate partition for my /home, and last time I tried the ubuntu beta2 image, it failed on grub install
[04:23] <ohsix> superproxy: oh installation, nevermind me, that was much faster
[04:23] <sebsebseb> superproxy: well run the commands they give, and it should add to Unity or Ubuntu Classic I guess
[04:23] <Strav> I'll boot from usb and see if I first can fix grub
[04:23] <GI_Jack> seriously why does 11.04 take forever to damn boot
[04:23] <izinucs> Strav: did you have multiple HD's in the machine?
[04:23] <ChogyDan> lsheeba: only install gnome3 on a testing install, or in a vm
[04:23] <freeman_> can someone recommend me a package for unraring rar files
[04:23] <sebsebseb> Herbs: heh in a way
[04:23] <stbain1> freeman_, try unrar
[04:23] <ohsix> GI_Jack: install bootchart and see; i didn't notice any change, if anything it's slightly faster
[04:23] <Strav> izinucs: nope, just one ssd
[04:24] <usr13> afroman: dd if=/dev/sda3 | ssh $user@$host 'gzip - > /pub/image.gz'  #To make a gziped image of the partiton onto another PC on your LAN.  And then:   dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda3  And then:  gzip -d image.gz | dd of=/dev/sda3  (where the image is on some usb drive or copied to another partition)
[04:24] <ACameron> Hey all.  In the middle of upgrading from 10.10 -> 11.04; got told to consider submitting a bug report about monodoc-base failing to install.  Where do I report this bug?
[04:24] <mordof> freeman_: there's a rar pack in the repos that adds to the main compressing untilitiy
[04:24] <izinucs> Strav: oh well.. you fixed it though.. that's good.
[04:24] <xsinick> freeman_:  just go to the software center and install  rar
[04:24] <ohsix> ACameron: launchpad.net
[04:24] <freeman_> i look for rar in software center and its not there
[04:24] <ACameron> ohsix: thanks.
[04:24] <freeman_> unrar is there but id like to make rar files too
[04:24] <xsinick> freeman_:  next time to right click on a file it would give option to unrar
[04:24] <superproxy> the progress bar isn't moving :(, how do I check if my cd is allright?
[04:24] <izinucs> freeman_: look for 7zip .. I think that does it too.
[04:24] <mordof> freeman_: rar is in there
[04:24] <checkers> hi, virtualbox seamless mode doesn't display properly with the new ubuntu UI. Has anyone else run into this and found a solution?
[04:25] <lsheeba> dasy2k1, ChogyDan , stbain1 , and all whos helping , Thanks all =) and i know for a fact , i trust mysystem more with linux then using a mac os x when i have no idea what is running in the background
[04:25] <ohsix> freeman_: rar is nonfree, you need to enable the universe repos; i don't know if software-center does that, or looks there
[04:25] <stbain1> lsheeba, you're welcome
[04:25] <Strav> izinucs: if you're talking about grub, nope it isn't fixed... I'll chroot into my failed 11.04 to see if I can fix anything
[04:25] <ohsix> mordof: only if you enable the extra repos
[04:25] <xsinick> freeman_:  Ubuntu 11.04 may have buugs and not work as well as 10.10
[04:25] <izinucs> checkers: you're not running dual monitors are you?
[04:25] <mordof> oooh
[04:25] <mordof> ohsix: i forgot i did that xD
[04:25] <ivzel> hallo! i had download alternate cd of Natty, but when try to upgrade, system goes to internet anyway. what can i do?
[04:25] <freeman_> xsinick, the bugs are the fun part :>
[04:25] <Herbs> forget rar use gzip
[04:25] <izinucs> Strav: I feel for you..
[04:25] <mordof> checkers: trying it now
[04:25] <Chilaquiles> is anyone here that knows how to make nautilus to look like file finder from Mac OS x?
[04:26] <ohsix> i've typed a small novel in here today, gonna go do something else
[04:26] <mordof> checkers: seemless mode works fine for me
[04:26] <xsinick> freeman_: I was being a d**k when I typed that
[04:26] <GI_Jack> fuck natty
[04:26] <mordof> checkers: although it makes the unity bar hide forever, lol
[04:26] <freeman_> xsinick, its ok :)
[04:26] <ohsix> Chilaquiles: that would be nice :D i doubt spacebar and stuff would work the same, i like th emulticolumn mode
[04:26] <xsinick> GI_Jack:  yes
[04:26] <freeman_> i think im going to try 7zip
[04:26] <ohsix> GI_Jack: #ubuntu-offtopic, if you have a help question please ask
[04:26] <usr13> ohsix: YOu should cosider publishing your work.
[04:26] <thanos> arand, thanks you!
[04:26] <afroman> usr13: thx
[04:26] <Chilaquiles> ohsix I have seen some pictures
[04:26] <freeman_> thanks everyone for the continued help :D
[04:26] <Chilaquiles> ohsix: I have seen some pictures
[04:26] <rgoytacaz> Any had any luck with Nvidia Drivers for ubuntu 11.04?
[04:26] <xsinick> but GI_Jack is right guys it nonsense
[04:27] <GI_Jack> ohsix: why does the new version of udev choke on my sata controller
[04:27] <arand> thanos: Were you able to get to the old files?
[04:27] <mordof> rgoytacaz: apparently mine are working.. i don't know
[04:27] <thanos> arand, with new kernel i can see my files
[04:27] <GI_Jack> and/or the kernel for that matter
[04:27] <arand> thanos: Excellent =)
[04:27] <fruitwerks-web> anyone have experience with nfs?
[04:27] <thanos> arand, :` )
[04:27] <usr13> afroman: NP. And sorry, but I know of no real simple solution.  I was hoping someone that knew some easier way would step in but... no such luck.  There may be no other easy way.
[04:27] <GI_Jack> GTK3 can blow me, but we get firefox 4 which is pretty cool
[04:27] <rgoytacaz> Any had any luck with Nvidia Drivers for ubuntu 11.04?
[04:27] <xsinick> rgoytacaz:  yes I have it all working
[04:27] <arand> thanos: Then hurry up and copy them to a safe backup ;)
[04:27] <rgoytacaz> xsinick: whats your card?
[04:27] <izinucs> rgoytacaz: sure.. but not the ones downloaded from nvidia.. the ones offered via ubuntu are up to date and work
[04:27] <checkers> izinucs: i am running dual monitors
[04:28] <mordof> rgoytacaz: it tells me that they're installed but inactive in the additional drivers, but my nvidia x server settings tool works
[04:28] <GI_Jack> I am running a GTX 480 in 11.04
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[04:28] <thanos> arand, sorry for my english i m greek
[04:28] <GI_Jack> so far its working
[04:28] <ncg> any help please ?!!!
[04:28] <ohsix> GI_Jack: does it? what sata controller? (btw, this would be udev's rules scripts and possibly kernel changes, only coincidentally ubuntu changes because it includes both)
[04:28] <Kage> ok, I am having major issues with Natty on this new laptop of mine.  Its a HP-G42, anyone know of issues with this model?
[04:28] <izinucs> checkers: that might be part of the problem.. you have to go to settings before loading the VM and let it know you have 2 monitors.. otherwise you have issues
[04:28] <arand> thanos: No problem at all, I barely noticed :)
[04:28] <GI_Jack> ohsix: lemme check
[04:28] <xsinick> GeFOrce GTS 250
[04:28] <freeman_> i right clicked and it let me install rar package, lol that was easy
[04:28] <rgoytacaz> izinucs: mordof xsinick: I got a vostro 3300 with a 310M and its saying activate but not in use, can remove reports an error.
[04:29] <ohsix> GI_Jack: and gtk3 is just deprecation and cleanup of things, and they're rolling some libraries that were almost always used together into gtk where appropriate; otherwise it is unremarkable, same thing happened with gtk2
[04:29] <xsinick> rgoy
[04:29] <mordof> rgoytacaz: saying the same thing to me.. and my desktop performance is sluggish, so i'm not sure what's happening with mine
[04:29] <ncg> ??
[04:29] <izinucs> rgoytacaz: did you reboot?
[04:29] <xsinick> rgoytacaz:  you have to restart
[04:29] <thanos> arand, i ll back up and i ll do clear install in ext4
[04:29] <yuskhanzab> hello all. how to ping ubuntu server using terminal?
[04:29] <checkers> izinucs: I have done that. I mean my 2 monitor seamless was working in 10.10, but after the upgrade one display is missing in seamless and the other is incorrectly placed on the screen
[04:29] <somethinginteres> friend complaining that Unity is slow, how can use Unity 2D to make it faster?
[04:30] <rgoytacaz> izinucs: yea, it error'd out during installation i could check , looking at the install logs
[04:30] <Chilaquiles> is there any way to reset nautilus top bars, now I can't make show the icons bar on the top, like computer icon, back icon etc.
[04:30] <ivzel> somebody can help me with this damned upgrade to natty? i can't upgrade it offline (of course, with alternate-CD)
[04:30] <xsinick> rgoytacaz:  shit narwhal told me that seem crap all it means to say is restart to activate the drivers
[04:30] <izinucs> checkers: you using the vbox version from the repos or direct from vbox?
[04:30] <rgoytacaz> going to restart
[04:30] <rgoytacaz> brb
[04:30] <yuskhanzab> hello, any oneknow how to ping ubuntu server using terminal command?
[04:31] <izinucs> yuskhanzab: ping <server address>
[04:31] <ncg> hello, any help please ???
[04:31] <usr13> yuskhanzab: sure
[04:31] <GI_Jack> OK, my sata controller is a ATI technologies SB7x0 8x0,etc....
[04:31] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, do you know the address
[04:31] <xsinick> ok anger simmering down
[04:31] <fruitwerks-web> Herbs: ubuntu nfs server and windows client? I'm like minutes away from ditching gentoo, nfs in ubuntu has not been good at all, right now it will mount, let me see eveything, but I can't read some files and I can't write to any and nothing has changed config wise- I have rebooted the ubuntu machine and the windows machine... thought I had it working normally nd then I go take a shower and I can't do anything on the share
[04:31] <xsinick> feeling a  bit better
[04:31] <fruitwerks-web> *ditching to gentoo
[04:31] <yuskhanzab> i dont know, its ubuntu server.. im now upgrading my ubuntu version. and its to slow right now
[04:32] <Kage> I guess Ill wait and see if it does anything <.<
[04:32] <yuskhanzab> what is ubuntu server address?
[04:32] <ivzel> anybody can help me?
[04:32] <Kage> maybe a first boot issue?
[04:32] <cdg> I don't know if I like this unity desktop
[04:32] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, maybe try getting it from a different mirror
[04:32] <usr13> yuskhanzab: Pinging it will not make it any faster.  It is a traffic problem.
[04:32] <ohsix> fruitwerks-web: go :]
[04:32] <xsinick> fruitwerks-web:  I heard good things about gentoo
[04:32] <izinucs> ivzel: just ask a question.. don't wait
[04:32] <Wickedspawn> Why is OSS4 not supported? It worked fine in 10.10, at least for me...
[04:32] <freeman_> cdg, you need to customize it. try turning off auto hide on your dock. i seem to like that better
[04:32] <yuskhanzab> im uprgading using the upgrade manager
[04:33] <ivzel> izinucs: a can't upgrade to Natty from CD without internet.
[04:33] <usr13> yuskhanzab: It's just going to be slow right now because this is right after 11.04 release.
[04:33] <yuskhanzab> this download start last night.. until now not been complete
[04:33] <fruitwerks-web> I used gentoo for like 10 years... and gave ubuntu a shot so I could spare this atom machine from the compiles... if anyone can fix the nfs issue, I'll probably keep using ubuntu
[04:33] <izinucs> ivzel: with the alternate cd you should be able to.
[04:33] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: OSS4 is a junk, that's why
[04:33] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, i left mine on while i went to class and it was done when i got back (2 or so hours)
[04:34] <xsinick> Devs better send an update soon else this going down as the sh**test Linux distro for 2011
[04:34] <fruitwerks-web> OSS is crap - always has been
[04:34] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: (i lie, that's probably not why, but you'd rather fix what works right and is free)
[04:34] <GI_Jack> I don't like this new scroll tab thingy either, how do I get rid of it
[04:34] <usr13> fruitwerks-web: What is wrong with your nfs shares?
[04:34] <ivzel> izinucs: i use alternate-cd. but it anyway wants internet. may be something with my config?
[04:34] <ohsix> GI_Jack: if you find out let me know, it was clunky when first installed but it got better much faster
[04:34] <cdg> freeman_: how do you turn off auto-hide?
[04:34] <ACameron> anybody else had issues with the monodoc-base package during the upgrade, yet?
[04:34] <izinucs> ivzel: no idea.. sorry
[04:34] <freeman_> cdg, install compiz manager
[04:35] <ohsix> GI_Jack: it's overlay-scrollbar, i don't think you can remove the package, but there's a conf file you can turn it off or something i'm sure
[04:35] <yuskhanzab> ive been download last night(16 hours now) also not been complete yet =.=
[04:35] <gogeta> death to unity
[04:35] <gogeta> lol
[04:35] <ivzel> izinucs: thanks!
[04:35] <fruitwerks-web> usr13: other than having to reboot my ubuntu server every3-7 days because nfs stops working and restarting the service does not help, right now I can't do anything but get a directory listing
[04:35] <ACameron> it looks like there are a bunch of bugs about it in Launchpad
[04:35] <stbain1> OK, I almost have my desktop restored.... seems to be hung on the "Restoring previously installed packages" part
[04:35] <izinucs> ivzel: your welcom
[04:35] <Wickedspawn> ohsix: It isn't crap. Deadbeef + OSS4 + Foobar2000's home theater eq setting makes my sound system sound way better than Alsa does.
[04:35] <yuskhanzab> it say's about 2 days more to complete
[04:35] <stbain1> Anyone know if I can kill that restoration process?
[04:35] <freeman_> cdg, in terminal type ccsm and it should tell you how to install
[04:35] <hanasaki> any reason why a maverick based "do-release-upgrade" would say no new release found?
[04:36] <yuskhanzab> is it save if i cancel the upgrading proses?
[04:36] <freeman_> cdg, i am still trying to get it to dock on the bottom... the setting is there but it fails to show up
[04:36] <xsinick> gonna go back to unity  and see If I can force my self to be a 20 year old I pad user the twitters
[04:36] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: i hesitate to say you are full of crap, but you are certainly deluding yourself; and i bet you haven't even objectively measured, you just think your statement is well supported
[04:36] <xsinick> that*
[04:36] <usr13> fruitwerks-web: paste your /etc/exports file and the /etc/fstab file on the client and let's have a look.
[04:36] <checkers> izinucs: from virtualbox themselves
[04:37] <mickster04> hanasaki: you have it set to lts only
[04:37] <yuskhanzab> is it safe if i cancel the upgrading proses?
[04:37] <freeman_> cdg, thanks to ohsix for helping me get this originally :)
[04:37] <hanasaki> mickster04:  where do I cahnge that
[04:37] <freeman_> credit where credit is due
[04:37] <pomke> Hello, I am running natty and have installed gnome3 from ppa, I'm confused about how to change my gtk/wm theme, I've tried the regular tool (right click nautilus desktop > change desktop background > theme tab) but this has no effect. I've then installed gnome-tweak-tool but it only shows one theme 'raleigh' even though I have installed more themes with apt
[04:37] <fruitwerks-web> usr13: client is windows, worked great in xp, and just as good in 7, I have had the same configs for years
[04:38] <Wickedspawn> ohsix: I've used Alsa with the same sound system for ~1.5 years. After I went through the process of switching to OSS4, I did notice a great improvement. Just because OSS3 was crap doesn't mean all of it is crap... "One person's garbage is another person's treasure."
[04:38] <ohsix> pomke: you'll have to talk to whoever supports those packages, ubuntu proper doesn't
[04:38] <izinucs> pomke: it's done on the login page.. click your user name and look at the bar at the bottom that appears.. that's where you change the wM
[04:38] <yuskhanzab> freeman_, is it safe to cancel the upgrading proses?
[04:38] <Robert__> hey im new to ubuntu any one want to help?
[04:38] <Kage> When I boot natty I get a blank screen, I think I have ruled out a X server issue, but maybe not
[04:38] <pomke> izinucs: Thank you :)
[04:38] <topramen> hey i have a 11.04 question
[04:38] <izinucs> Robert__: just ask a question.. if someone knows the answer they will
[04:39] <mickster04> hanasaki: go to synaptic>settings
[04:39] <kellnola> topramen, I have an answer
[04:39] <hanasaki> mickster04: it's a server.. no gui.. I did find it in the etc dir.. thanks
[04:39] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: did you measure a great improvement? you are making a statement common to fans of OSS(4) and it's never supported by more than a gut feeling, there are ways to measure things however
[04:39] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, i dont think so... are you updating the kernel?
[04:39] <topramen> kellnola, yay
[04:39] <hanasaki> mickster04:  what does no candidate for.... mean?
[04:39] <kellnola> topramen, "I don't know" :)
[04:39] <stbain1> upgrade hung... safe to kill the apt-clone restore-new-distro part of ubiquity to see if that frees it up?
[04:39] <yuskhanzab> no, im upgrade my ubuntu version to naty from maverick
[04:40] <freeman_> stbain1, dont kill it yet, mine took a while to update
[04:40] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: it's interesting you went out of your way to mention oss3 too, very interesting
[04:40] <mickster04> hanasaki: 0.o no idea, where do you see that?
[04:40] <Robert__> ok how do i find out what version i am running because i tried to install 11.04 but idk if it worked
[04:40] <kellnola> what is ubuntu going to do after zany zebra?
[04:40] <stbain1> freeman_, how long? Mine's been hung for about 15 minutes now if not longer.
[04:40] <ouyes> what happened when you suspend your laptop?
[04:40] <yuskhanzab> the download process to about 2 days to complete
[04:40] <freeman_> stbain1, i was playing call of duty for about 2 maps and it was still updating
[04:40] <topramen> kellnola, do i have to still go through terminal to install programs?
[04:40] <stbain1> freeman_, wow... that long, eh?
[04:40] <Wickedspawn> ohsix: I'm just wondering why the warning was placed on the Wiki. Used to be that you could use any setup you want with it. I didn't expect being flamed for liking it.
[04:40] <Scarra3> I don't know if I should go with the x64 or the x86 version of ubuntu
[04:40] <ohsix> kellnola: make something up! you saw the early release names right? they weren't always alphabetical, it was just a fun thing to do
[04:40] <freeman_> stbain1, search and destroy not tdm
[04:40] <yuskhanzab> 10kb per sec
[04:40] <kellnola> topramen, no ... I assume it still has synaptic or ubuntu software center
[04:41] <lumbert> Is it possible to have ubuntu 11.04 64bit and 32bit and gparted all on one usb stick?
[04:41] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: since you've stated you merely like it, i apologize, as long as it's not presented as fact
[04:41] <freeman_> stbain1, sorry not update, it was fresh install
[04:41] <ACameron> hey gang, I'm doing the update through the X gui; where do I grep for errors?
[04:41] <ACameron> would it be on dmesg..?
[04:41] <octillion> Robert__ in a terminal, lsb_release -a
[04:41] <usr13> fruitwerks-web: How about samba?
[04:41] <fruitwerks-web> I was waiting for that
[04:41] <yuskhanzab> freeman_, im upgrading the ubuntu version to natty
[04:41] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: but it is definitely contraindicated, if there is a problem with alsa or one of the drivers it will need to be fixed anyways; people in general aren't going to switch over to oss4 even assuming it was bug free and always better than alsa
[04:42] <usr13> !samba | fruitwerks-web
[04:42] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: alsa is in tree and supported by free software developers interested in fixing bugs they know about, and quite quickly i might add
[04:42] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, if you backed up your information im sure its ok to cancel. if not give it a few more minutes
[04:43] <Robert__> ok it says im still on 10.04 so how do i get 11.04 because i tryed to get it from the site and it didnt work
[04:43] <freeman_> Robert__, if you were on the new version you would know it :P
[04:43] <Jordan_U> !upgrade | Robert__
[04:43] <xsinick> freeman_:  got your graphics card to work
[04:43] <xsinick> ?
[04:43] <ohsix> Wickedspawn: it's really no different though, you were on your own before when you used it, now you're just a little bit more on your own
[04:43] <yuskhanzab> freeman_, its not a few minute to complete, it about 2 days.(10kbps)
[04:44] <izinucs> Robert__: 10.04 is an LTS release .. 11.04 isn't .. you can't upgrade directly unless you reinstall.. if you choose to reinstall then I hope you have a separate /home partiton with all your data so it will be safe..
[04:44] <freeman_> xsinick, yes i am pretty sure. i have the nvidia control panel up and it recognizes my card
[04:44] <xsinick> freeman_:  nice
[04:44] <freeman_> yuskhanzab, sorry im out of answers.. try asking it again and see if you get any nibbles
[04:44] <Jordan_U> Robert__: While izinucs is correct that you can't upgrade directly from 10.04 to 11.04 you can upgrade to 10.10 then to 11.04.
[04:44] <ACameron> I'll be doing another report this term and it's not even an official co-op term
[04:45] <ACameron> done six already
[04:45] <ACameron> mischan; sorry =X
[04:45] <yuskhanzab> lol, thanks anyway
[04:45] <freeman_> xsinick, do you remember the command to check.. you grep some file
[04:45] <kellnola> Jordan_U, well in this case it may be better to just blow it away with the cd.
[04:45] <fezzik02> km0201: Reinstalled GRUB2, still no boot
[04:45] <kellnola> Jordan_U, I dist-upgraded since feisty all the way to lucid and I missed all kinds of new crap
[04:46] <xsinick> freeman_:  nope I'm no super user
[04:46] <KM0201> fezzik02: i dunno man...
[04:46] <Jordan_U> fezzik02: What happens when you try to boot? How did you try to re-install grub?
[04:46] <kellnola> Jordan_U, and then with 10.10 I'm like, what is all this upstart crap?
[04:46] <freeman_> xsinick, the true test will be if my computer games will run like they did in gnome
[04:46] <fezzik02> But to be explicit, it starts the kernel, it just fails to start x
[04:46] <fruitwerks-web> I'm gonna be cool about this.. I refrained from posting a nice long line that would have had me perma-banned, something is wrong with nfs on ubuntu, look around, you will find posts going back to 2007 with these issues, I'm going back to gentoo so my stuff will work and I don't have to reboot to fix something
[04:46] <kellnola> fruitwerks-web, nfs3 or 4?
[04:47] <usr13> fezzik02: So what screen are you left with?
[04:47] <xsinick> freeman_:  you got dual screens?
[04:47] <fezzik02> jordan_u: I did judt reinstall grub, I think it is having issues with X
[04:47] <kellnola> I never had probs with nfs3 against solaris or RHEL
[04:47] <fezzik02> usr13: The blank screen after GRUB2 selection
[04:47] <izinucs> fruitwerks-web: sudo service smbd restart .. sudo service nmbd restart should do it.
[04:47] <KM0201> fezzik02: so how the heck is it starting your kernel, and grub not working?
[04:47] <freeman_> xsinick, no but i have one stored somewhere. i was thinking of getting it out but im lazy
[04:47] <ohsix> fruitwerks-web: can you elaborate?
[04:47] <xsinick> ANYONE got dual screens?
[04:47] <KM0201> fezzik02: so the grub install went fine, you have some other issue.
[04:47] <freeman_> maybe after finals
[04:47] <Icallitvera> where can i as questions about the KGpg plugin, mine is not working
[04:47] <fezzik02> km0201: I didn't say GRUB2 isn't working, it takes me to the Recovery Console just fine.
[04:47] <KM0201> xsinick: i do.
[04:47] <usr13> fezzik02: Are you sure it's booting?  How do you know?
[04:47] <Jordan_U> !anyone | xsinick
[04:47] <izinucs> xsinick: yes.. but not on natty yet..
[04:47] <ohsix> fruitwerks-web: do you mean nfs or cifs or something, people have been giving you suggestions for samba
[04:47] <fruitwerks-web> .. my pont I didn't post, those are cifs services
[04:47] <KM0201> ..
[04:47] <stbain1> crap... still no wirelesws
[04:48] <fruitwerks-web> enjoy your new release all... I'm *GONE*
[04:48] <KM0201> stbain1: whats your device?
[04:48] <fezzik02> usr13: I'm not sure, but the Recovery Console option works (2nd line in the GRUB2 Menu)
[04:48] <usr13> stbain1: What is your wifi device?
[04:48] <stbain1> broadcom 4311 (STA)
[04:48] <usr13> fezzik02: When you do the normal boot, what does it do?
[04:48] <xsinick> KM0201: can you test blender  windowed on Natty?
[04:48] <gogeta> Icallitvera: kubuntu
[04:48] <teddyroosebelt> ya broadcom firm is broke on 11.4
[04:49] <histo> stbain1: you need the firmware for that card. In the hardware drivers app
[04:49] <ohsix> stbain1: you are the second person today having trouble with the 4311, did it freeze your computer when you weren't using the sta driver?
[04:49] <kellnola> ohsix, why would anyone use samba in a unix environment if windows is not involved?
[04:49] <lumbert> Is it possible to have ubuntu 11.04 64bit and 32bit and gparted all on one usb stick?  I have 11.04 on the stick now, but I'd like to have access to all three on one stick.
[04:49] <xsinick> Natty is pissing me off
[04:49] <fezzik02> usr13: Screen goes black, hard disk activity for a little bit, then eventually drops signal to monitor and disregards numlock press
[04:49] <histo> xsinick: switch to classic console
[04:49] <ohsix> kellnola: well he said nfs, which is a real thing; i didn't see him mention anything else
[04:49] <ohsix> kellnola: i asked him to elaborate, i could have probably told him what it wasD:
[04:49] <xsinick> histo: ha hah hah
[04:49] <ChronicSyncope> does anyone know how to make 'normal' window  size in compiz not suck
[04:49] <stbain1> histo, I have the firmware installed... still doesn't work
[04:49] <usr13> fezzik02: What happens when you do Ctrl-Alt-F6 ?
[04:50] <nit-wit> lumbert, how are they loaded is it ISO's
[04:50] <fezzik02> usr13: no response
[04:50] <stbain1> ohsix, I freezed when I did the update through the udpate manager
[04:50] <ohsix> lumbert: yes it is
[04:50] <izinucs> lumbert: yes.. I think unetbootin will do that.. it's in the repos
[04:50] <lumbert> not sure about parted magic, but ubuntu 11.04 64/32 are downloaded as such
[04:50] <ohsix> stbain1: after you installed natty but before you installed sta?
[04:50] <usr13> fezzik02: So you can boot recovery mode....?
[04:50] <stbain1> ohsix, the install never finished
[04:50] <fezzik02> usr13: yes
[04:50] <nit-wit> lumbert, pendrive has a linux multiloader
[04:51] <stbain1> ohsix, ended up with black screen... no response, not way to get to console via CTRL+ALT+F1... nada :(
[04:51] <fezzik02> usr13: and oddly, if I press the hard power button for a second, it starts shutting down.
[04:51] <ohsix> stbain1: oh i thought you were having a problem with your wifi, that's while you're trying to install then, no?
[04:51] <fezzik02> usr13: is it because I'm running hybrid SLI?
[04:51] <Nate_> I need help; Natty broke my computer, it won't even start up!
[04:51] <stbain1> ohsix, yes.... so then I just slapped in the Natty CD and formatted everything... now Wifi doesn't work even with a fresh install
[04:52] <fezzik02> nate_: you and me, buddy.
[04:52] <nit-wit> Nate_, upgarde or install
[04:52] <usr13> stbain1:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff
[04:52] <stbain1> usr13, already did that :(
[04:52] <greylurk> Having issues with the Natty installer.
[04:52] <xsinick> :( waaaaaaaaaaah
[04:52] <greylurk> It keeps saying I have too many primary partitions on my disc
[04:52] <teddyroosebelt> its just broke thats all there is to it. b43 drivers is dead as a door nail
[04:52] <Nate_> I did upgrade from 10.10. I restarted, and it said Unity wasn't supported, so I went with GNOME. Then I restarted again and now it won't start up.
[04:52] <ohsix> stbain1: you need firmware if you are using the driver that comes with linux, there is a script in the b43-fwcutter package that does that for you; or you can try installing bcmwl-kernel-source, which is the vendor driver
[04:53] <nit-wit> greylurk, how many do you have?
[04:53] <MrBushido> can i get 11.04 through an apt dist-upgrade or do I need to start from scratch?
[04:53] <ohsix> teddyroosebelt: it still works for me
[04:53] <greylurk> nit-wit 4 primary, 1 extended
[04:53] <stbain1> ohsix, the hardware->additional drivers did all that
[04:53] <ohsix> greylurk: you have too many primary partitions on your drive
[04:53] <teddyroosebelt> ohsix, lucky you.
[04:53] <nit-wit> greylurk, the limit is 3 primary and 1 ext
[04:53] <Jordan_U> greylurk: One of the 4 primary partitions needs to be used for an extended partition.
[04:53] <ohsix> stbain1: ok, i never used thata; and it works for me, dunno what to say
[04:53] <greylurk> nit-wit when did that change?
[04:53] <audhi> ohsix, how to change icons in ubuntu?
[04:53] <ohsix> stbain1: dmesg should say if the driver is finding its firmware
[04:53] <nit-wit> greylurk, always has been
[04:53] <greylurk> jordan_u that's how it's set up
[04:54] <greylurk> /dev/sda1-3 are used as primary
[04:54] <ohsix> teddyroosebelt: luck is a figment of peoples imagination and want for lovely coincidence
[04:54] <greylurk> /dev/sda4 hosts the extended, which is /dev/sda5
[04:54] <audhi> please say soon ohsix.
[04:54] <rhizmoe> i'm still a bit flabbergasted that traceroute isn't installed by default
[04:54] <Jordan_U> greylurk: That's fine.
[04:54] <teddyroosebelt> ohsix, giggity.
[04:54] <xsinick> IM s don't popup like inthe ubuntu video
[04:54] <xsinick> it was a lie
[04:54] <ohsix> audhi: no clue, i just hit customize in the appearance applet
[04:54] <ohsix> xsinick: do you even use empathy?
[04:55] <Jordan_U> xsinick: They do for me with empathy.
[04:55] <xsinick> it comes with ubuntu
[04:55] <fezzik02> Is there some sort of log that I can review to see how the startup process failed?
[04:55] <ohsix> it sure does
[04:55] <ohsix> i was getting to what Jordan_U said already ...
[04:55] <diaoer> why i cant use fetch?
[04:55] <xsinick> not like in the video on the front of the ubuntu site
[04:55] <Jordan_U> xsinick: And for irssi, but that's a script I needed to add manually.
[04:55] <Nate_> Is there a way to start up my computer from Command Line? I can get there...
[04:55] <Robert__> im upgrading but what does this mean: Error mounting: mount: block device /dev/sr0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[04:55] <Robert__> mount: /dev/sr0 already mounted or /media/Ubuntu 11.04 amd64 busy
[04:55] <Jordan_U> xsinick: What client are you using? What happens when you get an IM?
[04:55] <hanasaki> how do you ad the gnome sensor applet to the panel?
[04:56] <nit-wit> Nate_, was this a fresh install or a upgrade?
[04:56] <hanasaki> its not in the add to panel / applet
[04:56] <ohsix> xsinick: what point in the video are you talking about?
[04:56] <RexAlters> Hi.
[04:56] <RexAlters> How can I setup ubuntu to download music track information?
[04:56] <RexAlters> Thanks.
[04:56] <audhi> Nate_, how to change icon in ubuntu?
[04:56] <RexAlters> As I have just found some old music that I wish to get the music track info automatically.
[04:57] <ohsix> xsinick: or rather what video are you talking about at all, i don't see any video on the front page
[04:57] <RexAlters> Without having to enter everything manually.
[04:57] <nit-wit> Nate_, are getting a grub prompt ...grub> or a grub menu then black
[04:57] <nit-wit> *you
[04:57] <RexAlters> Like how wmp gets the track information automatically.
[04:57] <audhi> Nate_, are you  here?
[04:57] <ohsix> RexAlters: well ubuntu doesn't do it, but there are some programs that you can install on ubuntu that does; like musicbrainz picard
[04:57] <Macer> hm
[04:57] <xsinick> becuase they moved it like aday befor this crap came out
[04:57] <xsinick> on sec
[04:57] <fezzik02> usr13: Ok, I can get root shell in Recovery Console, is there a log of some sort I ought t review?
[04:57] <xsinick> I'll get it
[04:57] <Nate_> Upgrade. I have to hit escape to get to the CLI...just the normal CLI, doesn't say grub
[04:57] <ohsix> xsinick: thank you
[04:58] <Macer> i can't seem to find any information on this :( does anybody know how i can set up a user acct where it will use an nfs as its default home but if the nfs is down it can fall back on a local directory?
[04:58] <RexAlters> Thank you.;)
[04:58] <Jordan_U> Nate_: What is the prompt that you see?
[04:58] <RexAlters> :)
[04:58] <jiltdil> my max,miz button is missing in ubuntu 11.04 how to get it back?
[04:58] <nit-wit> Nate_, what is the graphics card
[04:58] <usr13> fezzik02: Ok tell me again what led up to this failure?  Did the upgrade get inerrupted?
[04:58] <fezzik02> I had 10.10 and Win 7
[04:58] <Nate_> golly, I dont know, but that may be the issue. When I first started it it didnt recognize and forced me to go to gnome
[04:58] <usr13> fezzik02: And..... what happened?
[04:58] <fezzik02> Then I formatted and installed 11.04 alpah1
[04:59] <rumpe1> Macer, well... you just have to script, that if nfs is available, it should be mounted on top of /home/user
[04:59] <Nate_> I think its a NVIDIA??
[04:59] <ohsix> Macer: well how do you know nfs is down? the kernel tries its best to get it to act like a regular filesystem, and that means possibly waiting a very long time if the server isn't reachable
[04:59] <fezzik02> usr13:
[04:59] <fezzik02> usr:13 Then I formatted and installed 11.04 alpah1
[04:59] <Macer> ohsix: you can change those settings in fstab
[04:59] <usr13> fezzik02: Yes.... and then?
[04:59] <Macer> the timeout and retrans
[04:59] <audhi> Nate_, haw to change icons in ubuntu?
[04:59] <nit-wit> Nate_, can you login at the cli, do you ever see a grub menu?
[04:59] <fezzik02> usr13: That didn't work any better than this one, so I waited for 11.04 beta 2, still no joy
[05:00] <Macer> i want it to fall back to a different directory if the nfs hits its retrans mark
[05:00] <stbain1> ohsix, trying the raw ndiswrapper instead of the source
[05:00] <Macer> i don't even know if that is possible tho. i've been looking on google but don't see anything that relates
[05:00] <ohsix> Macer: you still can't really ask "is nfs up?" that's the basic question you need in order to find some software that can do what you want if it's there or not there
[05:00] <Nate_> What is the grub menu exactly? Command line looking thing with a purple background?
[05:00] <ChronicSyncope> window resize 'normal' sucks... how do i fix it?
[05:00] <ohsix> stbain1: raw??? never use ndiswrapper if you can help it; argh
[05:00] <tanath> so, if i upgrade to natty my desktop icons will be gone, yes?
[05:00] <jiltdil> min,max button is missing from ubuntu 11.04,how to get it back?
[05:01] <xsinick> i can't find them on the site
[05:01] <xsinick> they hide them
[05:01] <fezzik02> usr13: then I waited for 11.04 final... and that's it
[05:01] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, if you're not using classic probably
[05:01] <stbain1> ohsix, I know. sucks, but the "canned" version isn't working... worth a shot
[05:01] <xsinick> wooooow
[05:01] <xsinick> wow
[05:01] <fezzik02> usr13: no dice
[05:01] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, classic?
[05:01] <nit-wit> Nate_,  you have upgraded and you don't know what a grub menu looks like?
[05:01] <Macer> ohsix: i don't understand. it is a pretty straightforward question. if i have user home directories on an nfs and the nfs hits its time/retrans limits is there a way to get the server to fallback to a local directory
[05:01] <earthen> hi guys i'm getting an error stating that i need to upgrade the  NVIDIA kernel module has version 270.41.06
[05:01] <ohsix> Macer: it's possible, but you have to decide what it would be, you probably want to copy/cache/sync files from nfs before log on, not try and use nfs and fallback
[05:01] <earthen> how do i do that
[05:01] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, you can choose "classic gnome" when you log in and it looks just like 10.04
[05:01] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, or 10.10 even
[05:01] <audhi> #ubuntu+1
[05:01] <ohsix> Macer: no, it's not a simple question, as there is no fallback mechanism and you can't check if nfs is up or not
[05:01] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, ah, right. so then if not, how would i get at my desktop icons?
[05:02] <rumpe1> Macer, sure it's possible ... write a scripte like " loop ( if nfs available : mount on top of /home/nfsuser ;  if nfs unavailable : unmount it)" ... or something like that
[05:02] <ohsix> stbain1: bcmwl-kernel-source works for me
[05:02] <ChronicSyncope> tanath navigate to ~/Desktop either in the terminal or nautilus
[05:02] <Nate_> OK, i gimaged it...I do know what it is!
[05:02] <usr13> fezzik02: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:02] <Nate_> And no, I can't get there.
[05:02] <ohsix> Macer: what happens when nfs comes back when you're using the local directory? what happens when it goes away when you are logged on?
[05:02] <stbain1> ohsix, yah.... no clue why mine isn't
[05:02] <audhi> #ubuntu+1
[05:02] <greylurk> Gah, come on.  I set up this partition structure when I installed 10.10... What is the problem.
[05:02] <ohsix> Macer: what you really want to do is cache offline; and lots of people have done that
[05:02] <fezzik02> usr13: from Recovery Console root terminal?
[05:02] <stbain1> ohsix, but looks like ndiswrapper just saved the day
[05:02] <nit-wit> Nate_, can you login at the cli and run starx
[05:03] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, how would you convert them to something as quick & easy to access as they were before? i've put people on ubuntu who put everything on the desktop...
[05:03] <nit-wit> Nate_, startx
[05:03] <Macer> ohsix: i was just going to set up a cron script to sync the directories every 6 hours or so
[05:03] <jiltdil>  #ubuntu+1 is invite only means?/
[05:03] <arand> jiltdil: Closed.
[05:03] <usr13> fezzik02: Oh, you don't have internet connection...
[05:03] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, i'm not sure, I don't really like unity all that much. It probably has some kind of stacks on the dock though that you could throw them into (I really dont know)
[05:03] <ohsix> Macer: well you can buffet that with pam login/log out scripts that update the cache too, or not even have periodic syncs
[05:03] <arand> jiltdil: Won't open until next cycle starts up
[05:03] <earthen> i'm getting an API mismatch error: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 270.41.03, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 270.41.06.
[05:03] <fezzik02> usr13: maybe I could, natty has been very good with my wifi card i the livecd
[05:03] <earthen> how to fix
[05:04] <ohsix> Macer: there are fuse filesystems that can do caching for you, but they likely wouldn't be enough for your circumstance
[05:04] <jiltdil> arnad: will you help me my 11.04 min,max button also the applet that is in left side is missing
[05:04] <Macer> and being that it will be a fallback home dir and not the actual home dir...i think a fallback would be better.. especially considering size constraints.. i want the fallback dir to just maintain a small amount of information in order to get a user logged in instead of being hung at logging in
[05:04] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, does 'classic' use gnome 3?
[05:04] <Robert__> well it hasn't stoped upgradeing tho
[05:04] <Nate_> I'm trying to get back to command line...it's a chancy thing...
[05:04] <arand> jiltdil: I don't know I'm afraid.
[05:05] <Macer> maybe even display a different motd explaining what is wrong.. but config files would be good to keep in teh fallback driectory
[05:05] <ohsix> Macer: so you want them to be able to log in but not have any of their information or store any changes they make back at the real server?
[05:05] <xsinick> ohsix: like in the video this guy was all talking calmly about how cool ubuntu was and he say now I'm pop up  fom the bottom of the screen so you can typr to people on the fly or continue workinf
[05:05] <xsinick> working*
[05:05] <ohsix> Macer: you could just log them on with a guest session if nfs isn't available
[05:05] <Macer> ohsix: that is a start
[05:05] <xsinick> I don't see that shit yet
[05:05] <Macer> at the least i want the fallback dir to keep their config files from their nfs home dir
[05:05] <ohsix> xsinick: family channel ...
[05:05] <Macer> like .alpine .ssh etc
[05:05] <tanath> i'm used to upgrading like a month before release. this is the first time i actually don't really want to upgrade
[05:06] <arand> xsinick: That's in gnome3...
[05:06] <digirak> upgrading to natty narwhal does not alter my user data does it?
[05:06] <Macer> something that can get them on the system without having it hang and possibly change the motd explaining what is wrong
[05:06] <xsinick> oops
[05:06] <greylurk> *grump* finally got it working by doing a "custom" install, and reformatting my 10.10 install.
[05:06] <Robert__> also something is weird with my work spaces i remember when i first got Ubuntu i could move a window from one workspace to another and now i cant
[05:06] <ohsix> Macer: the . files in the home directories can be arbitrarily large; sounds like the problem you actually want to solve is ill defined
[05:06] <xsinick> lol
[05:06] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, let me check
[05:06]  * jiltdil i think it is better to be stick to 10.10 for some more days
[05:06] <johnqq> hello, why doesnt gnome shell work when i install in natty, it says error has accured and restarts to logon screen
[05:06] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, nope 2.31
[05:06] <Macer> the actual home dirs will be much larger than .files
[05:06] <Macer> and dirs
[05:06] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, nope 2.32.1 **
[05:06] <fezzik02> usr13: Tried startx at the # prompt, whole thing locked up
[05:06] <Macer> but thanks for the help. i will continue looking
[05:07] <ohsix> Macer: in any situation i've seen, if the files aren't available then work can't be done anyways, so they just aren't allowed to log in, you want some sort of middle ground that still allows them to log in?
[05:07] <Macer> ohsix: yes
[05:07] <audhi> can anyone clear my doubt. please!
[05:07] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, hm, thx
[05:07] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, you can install it from the repos though, i believe
[05:07] <audhi>  can anyone clear my doubt. please!
[05:07] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, but it doesn't work with unity AFAIK
[05:07] <Macer> i don't want the login to ever stop due to the nfs being down
[05:08] <audhi>  can anyone clear my doubt. please!
[05:08] <ohsix> Macer: once there are local changes what will you do? if nfs was down for 6 hours the changes might be against files from 6 hours or earlier ago, if they're applied to current files they'd have a nonlinear history that would possibly cause data loss that people would not realize
[05:08] <earthen> i'm getting an API mismatch error: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 270.41.03, but this NVIDIA driver component has version 270.41.06. So do i need to upgrade the Kerne or downgrade my Nvidea driver please help
[05:08] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, there's a number of things i'm concerned about losing on upgrade that will basically cripple me
[05:08] <xsinick>  so are we not running gnome 3?
[05:08] <ohsix> Macer: then you should probably find a way for nfs never to be down :O
[05:08] <rumpe1>  digirak, usually not
[05:08] <audhi> im leaving no one is answering
[05:08] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, you might find it worthwhile to wait then...
[05:08] <Jordan_U> Macer: What good do you expect this to do for the users?
[05:08] <ohsix> tanath: what's that?
[05:08] <ChronicSyncope> tanath, I've been spending the last few hours fixing compiz, lol.
[05:09] <jubei> howdy. Just booted into ubuntu 11.4 aand.. compiz effects are disabled. Trying to eanble the nvidia driver but doesn't seem to be a way
[05:09] <LAcan> does anyone know the repo for backtrack?
[05:09] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, I'm also trying to get compiz to work
[05:09] <Jordan_U> !backtrack | LAcan
[05:09] <ohsix> tanath: i can try and fill you in if you can give me some things
[05:09] <Macer> Jordan_U: they can still access other servers from the box... but if their home dir goes down i want them to be able to still be able to login to  a... trying to think of a proper word
[05:09] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, I have compiz working. are you in classic or unity?
[05:09] <Macer> contingency directory?
[05:09] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, unity
[05:09] <Jordan_U> LAcan: And we don't support using backtrack repositories with Ubuntu either.
[05:09]  * topramen feels happy
[05:09] <xsinick> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lepXx1kDelo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gnome3.org%2F&feature=player_embedded
[05:09] <ohsix> Macer: then have them connect using a guest account, it is easy to do that even
[05:09] <xsinick> how do I get that?
[05:10] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, when I select additional hardware drivers it shows me that the nvidia driver isn't enabled but also has no way for me to enable it
[05:10] <tanath> ohsix, well, from youtube vids there's shortcuts that get stolen away from things i use, like compz scale...
[05:10] <fezzik02> usr13: oddly, failsafex works from the Recovery Console window.
[05:10] <Macer> ohsix: but there are greater options having a fallback directory
[05:10] <greylurk> I like that the installer gives you stuff to do while waiting for the files to copy.
[05:10] <ohsix> Macer: guest accounts create temporary directories & people log in, their changes are obliterated when they log out
[05:10] <tanath> ohsix, i was also thinking of gnome applets like system monitor being removed but i think that might just be gnome 3
[05:10] <Macer> say they DO write files there.. once the nfs is back up they login and can copy them over themselves
[05:10] <tanath> ohsix, also, desktop icons
[05:10] <greylurk> Thanks Ubuntu.
[05:10] <ohsix> Macer: there are also larger unfixable problems, like the nonlinear file history
[05:10] <Macer> ohsix: that is what i am trying to avoid
[05:10] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, does it say "activated but not in use" or is the little circle red?
[05:10] <tanath> ohsix, though that's more important for others i've put on ubuntu
[05:10] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, yes
[05:10] <tanath> ChronicSyncope, yikes. i use compiz heavily
[05:10] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, sec
[05:10] <ohsix> tanath: ah; allow me to allay those fears, even with gnome-shell nautilus and the panel will still be available, as they are now with unity
[05:11] <xsinick> how do I get this coolness? :
[05:11] <Macer> ohsix: isn't time always linear?
[05:11] <xsinick> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lepXx1kDelo&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.gnome3.org%2F&feature=player_embedded
[05:11] <Macer> :)
[05:11] <jasonmchristos> when setting a password for a .zip file does it use encryption (if so what type) or does it just use a basic password access restriction?
[05:11] <Macer> i thought ntpd fixed linear problems
[05:11] <ohsix> Macer: not if you modified a file from 6 hours ago, but you save it over one that has been changed outside of the cached copy
[05:11] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, activated but not in use? that means it's working. but if the light is red, it's not working. I don't know how to solve the not-working problem myself, but i'm sure somebody here has some ideas
[05:11] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, says "This driver is activated but not currently in use", and the circle is green
[05:11] <tanath> ohsix, also i use things like nautilus-elementary... not sure if that'll break
[05:11] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, thats how mine looks, and compiz is working for me.
[05:11] <ohsix> Macer: the problem is offering older copies to the client
[05:11] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, but I don't get my old effects.
[05:11] <xsinick> that looks like fedora to me
[05:12] <newmar> my touchpad doesnt work the scroll when i upgrade how can i fix it
[05:12] <Jordan_U> xsinick: Ubuntu doesn't use gnome-shell or gnome3's notification system by default. If you want an experience like that video you need to install GNOME3.
[05:12] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, and under "Appearance" there's no option to enable effects
[05:12] <rhizmoe> jasonmchristos: it's basic symmetric
[05:12] <Macer> ok. but you are digging too deep into possible problems.. is there a way to do it or not? :)
[05:12] <Jordan_U> xsinick: I mean install GNOME shell.
[05:12] <jasonmchristos> rhizmoe, using aes128?
[05:12] <xsinick> ok
[05:12] <ohsix> Jordan_U: oh he was talking about the gnome webpage D:
[05:12] <celthunder> jasonmchristos: zip files are easily cracked ..not a good method of security
[05:12] <xsinick> doing that now
[05:12] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, install ccsm
[05:12] <Macer> a simple fallback directory is all i need
[05:12] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, ok.
[05:12] <histo> jubei: in natty you have to install compizconfig-settings-manager and change settings under that
[05:12] <jasonmchristos> rhizmoe, what man page would i look at for details
[05:12] <tanath> so i tried to run unity on 10.10 and it didn't work too well. couldn't access the searchy thing that seemed to integrate with the desktop and not accept clicks
[05:12] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, sory compiz-config-settings-manager
[05:13] <Macer> i can figure out the problems that come along as i go alone and refine how it works
[05:13] <xsinick> Jordan_U:  thanks but Ubuntu is not running gnome shell in Narwhal?
[05:13] <Macer> alone/along
[05:13] <jasonmchristos> celthunder, that depends on if it is encrypted or just an acess restriction
[05:13] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | xsinick
[05:13] <histo> xsinick: no it's running unity
[05:13] <rhizmoe> jasonmchristos: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZIP_%28file_format%29#Strong_encryption_controversy
[05:13] <Jordan_U> xsinick: Correct. It is using the Unity shell.
[05:13] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, i was wrong again compizconfig-settings-manager sorry xD
[05:13] <ohsix> jeeze that's annoying, and why do they have to publish videos for that stuff? are they trying to be mozilla without actually doing anything interesting?
[05:13] <jasonmchristos> celthunder, i would hope it would at least avoid massive plain file archiving of email attachments
[05:14] <jubei> ChronicSyncope, got it thank you.
[05:14] <xsinick> histo:  thanks
[05:14] <jasonmchristos> rhizmoe, looking
[05:14] <tanath> ohsix, also, from what i've seen on youtube i don't care for the titlebar loss/integration with panel
[05:14] <xsinick> Jordan_U:  thanks
[05:14] <Jordan_U> xsinick: You're welcome.
[05:14] <ChronicSyncope> jubei, no problem, unfortunately i gotta run :( plenty of other people here to help though!
[05:14] <shane4ubuntu> what is the default unity network manager?  the gnome one?
[05:15] <jasonmchristos> rhizmoe, i am aware that old zip files in windows use an acess restriction but the newer winzip programs use aes 128/256 now what is this gnome shell using?
[05:15] <xsinick> why we stoped gnome?
[05:15] <ohsix> tanath: well, that's something else; and you don't have to worry about it, you can just use the classic session
[05:16] <tanath> ohsix, but i want to be able to use/like unity... it has potential and will likely become standard... i need to be able to make things work to my liking or adapt things
[05:16] <tanath> ohsix, i dislike when features are removed or break others though
[05:16] <ohsix> tanath: theres not a lot of room for that, they're designing an experience
[05:16] <nmvictor> Ubuntu asks for a password to "Unlock my login Key ring" every time I login, what is up with that? Can I disable that?
[05:17] <ohsix> nmvictor: you can change your password to match your keyring password, or vice versa
[05:17] <tanath> ohsix, i'm concerned about losing my hard-fought-for efficiency
[05:17] <tanath> ohsix, and lack of annoyances :p
[05:17] <xsinick> I think it's time to switch to fedora
[05:17] <ohsix> fedora does have a lot of upstream oomph
[05:17] <celthunder> fedora fails...
[05:17] <greylurk> RPM has long been a good package manager.
[05:18] <ChronicSyncope> i'm thinking about trying debian or arch
[05:18] <gratidude> nmvictor: are you using any password-protected wifi network, that tries to connect when you bootup?
[05:18] <ohsix> but i'd hate to dip outside of the repos for something as trivial as ffmpeg or stuff that uses it
[05:18] <greylurk> But ubuntu just works.
[05:18] <ACameron> Any reason I should have gotten this error while upgrading? "The upgrade has aborted. Your system could be in an unusable state. A recovery will run now (dpkg --configure -a)."
[05:18] <Souperman> yes, upgrades never go well
[05:18] <Tully_> and they take forever
[05:18] <ChronicSyncope> ACameron, you're not _supposed_ to get errors :p
[05:19] <xsinick> greylurk: fedora looking nice about now doesn't it?
[05:19] <celthunder> ChronicSyncope: go for arch it totally rapese debian
[05:19] <esx> Arch ftw.
[05:19] <Tully_> just do a sudo mv -r /* /dev/null and install from disk
[05:20] <greylurk> xsinick dunno haven't booted up unity yet.
[05:20] <arand> Tully_: Please don't
[05:20] <xsinick> greylurk: let me predict... Dude you gonna hate it  as it is now
[05:20] <S-M-Gl> hello, can someone tell me why gnome 3 does not load when installed in natty, it gives an error, and no other sessions work when gnome3 is installed either?
[05:21] <celthunder> S-M-Gl: what's the error
[05:21] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | S-M-Gl
[05:21] <greylurk> xsinick dunno.  I can always just go to slackware 13.37
[05:21] <xsinick> !gnome
[05:21] <xsinick> !gnome | S-M-Gl
[05:21] <celthunder> S-M-Gl: whats the error?
[05:22] <arand> xsinick: S-M-Gl: installing that won't help...
[05:22] <Medfordite> Hey all - Great work!  Can anyone tell me if/when broadcom support for the Compaq V5000 (Broadcom B43 I believe) will be ready?
[05:22] <xsinick> !gnome 3 | S-M-Gl
[05:22] <nmvictor> gratidude: yea, sometime that comes up and after key in the password, some wireless starts to connnect, but right now their is no wifi-hotspot around, I just enter the password and thats it. Please, how do I disable this, its silently annoying
[05:22] <xsinick> !gnome3 | S-M-Gl
[05:22] <ACameron> ChronicSyncope: yeah, I know. :) But I didn't cancel the installation, and the only problem was with monodoc-base.
[05:22] <tanath> yikes. good to know you can't safely downgrade from gnome 3...
[05:22] <Tully_> anyone know of a good multithreaded download manager that integrates with firefox and supports batch downloads?
[05:22] <S-M-Gl> celthunder: sorry didnt pay too much atention because was more concerned on the fact that no session worked so had to purge the ppa.
[05:23] <Medfordite> Tully - Downloadthemall (downloadthemall.net)
[05:23] <greylurk> Gah!  Downloading packages, 24 minutes remaining?  Wish they just included those on a DVD release.
[05:23] <celthunder> Tully_: Dta
[05:23] <tanath> Tully_, jdownloader
[05:24] <greylurk> Medfordite Download the mall?  Sounds like fun.
[05:24] <xsinick> rgoytacaz:  did the  card work after rebooting?
[05:24] <Medfordite> Download Them All :)
[05:24] <celthunder> Medfordite: that driver should work already
[05:24] <alkisg> What's the recommented way to install google earth in Natty? To download the .deb from google, or from medibuntu, or from e.g. a partner repository?
[05:24] <Tully_> thanks all, will check it out
[05:24] <nmvictor> How is Natty, for those who have gotten their hard disks filled with it,  any major bugs I might wanna avoid coz I am dying to press that upgrade button on my Update manager
[05:24] <tanath> greylurk, one day i will rule the mall!
[05:24] <Medfordite> Celthunder - Not seeing the Restricted drivers listing the driver like usual as in 10.10 or 10.04.
[05:24] <celthunder> Medfordite: b43 i've seen used before
[05:25] <blahdeblah> Any experts on initramfs & mdadm present?  I have a server which fails to mount the root filesystem on reboot.  It drops into the busybox shell claiming that there's no root filesystem.  A simple mdadm --auto-detect fixes it and the system continues to boot.  Why is this happening, and how can i get the mdadm process to continue without intervention?
[05:25] <lumbert> nit-wit ; thanks i'll check that out
[05:25] <greylurk> tanath one ring to bring the mall, and in the darkness bind it!
[05:25] <ybit> heyo
[05:25] <tanath> greylurk, bind the mall?
[05:25] <rgoytacaz> Well, Ubuntu 11.04 works only post-install if you try to restart it fails and doesnt boot anymore
[05:25] <tanath> greylurk, how about blind? (ring = bling)
[05:25] <gratidude> nmvictor: There is a "Available to all users" option that you can enable in Network Manager's config for that wifi connection, and that will stop the system from prompting you to enter the keyring password before connecting you to wifi. Are you using auto-logon?
[05:26] <Medfordite> Hmmm...another issue, attempting install of grub boot loader now at the moment for the Server version and it is erroring out with the update-grub function.  2 hard drives, installing to the master drive.
[05:26] <UbuntuNoob> hi, im trying to get minecraft to work on ubuntu 10.10 and it wont seem to open. ive read a bunch of ways to fix a black screen, but i havent even gotten that. i enter a name and click ok, but i dont get any screen afterwards. does anyone know how to fix this?
[05:26] <greylurk> tanath I think you're on to something.  My version just ends up with a big mall of twine.
[05:26] <rgoytacaz> Also NVidia drivers, ONCE AGAIN, doesn't work on release, this is getting annoying.
[05:26] <celthunder> Medfordite: so? find the broadcom modules and install them and load them if they don't work use ndiswrapper
[05:26] <tanath> greylurk, :D
[05:26] <rgoytacaz> and Im on certified hardware. :(
[05:26] <celthunder> Medfordite: regardless b43 support works one way or another
[05:26] <xsinick> rgoytacaz:  i agree and i think i
[05:26] <ybit> i briefly googled and i lazily looked at the results, so i'm going to instead ask in here..
[05:27] <xsinick> I'm gonna switch to fedora
[05:27] <greylurk> crap... Now its' 26 minutes left.
[05:27] <ybit> is there a fix for the crappy new scrollbars?
[05:27] <lsheeba> the upgrade process without network dont work somehow , it keeps retrying to connect to internet then it says failed to fetch and restores and closes when following this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades  ( im upgrading using alternate cd without wasting a cd , just mounted through terminal and used the run command to execute the upgrade dialog box )
[05:27] <celthunder> rgoytacaz: blame nvidia...or use the open source drivers...which work quite well
[05:27] <greylurk> Somehow I'm on Microsoft minutes.
[05:27] <carandraug> rgoytacaz, I feel your pain. Someone should shot the guys from nvidia for not releasing their drivers for free
[05:27] <taglass> xsinick: lol switching to Fedora because of video driver troubles is probably about the3 worst move you could make.
[05:28] <rgoytacaz> celthunder: if oss works well, why does Ubuntu choose to install the nvidia one by default? Dont we learn?
[05:28] <ybit> found the fix, phew
[05:28] <DigitalUn1corn> I'm having a problem where I go to click on things within a window, but it selects stuff from the window behind it.  Anyone know of a fix?
[05:28] <carandraug> greylurk, the first time I made a upgrade on the day the release came out, it took me 8h!
[05:28] <Souperman> tell me an old hag, but clean install stuff people, do not upgrade stuff, that _NEVER_ goes well
[05:28] <_ryx_> need help ---> UNKNOWN MONITOR
[05:28] <greylurk> I think xsinick is a Redhat shill.
[05:28] <tanath> hrm, i installed unity on 10.10 and it installed dependencies, but now on removing it the dependencies aren't being removed along with
[05:28] <In54n0> #canal
[05:28] <celthunder> rgoytacaz: cause you're insane?
[05:28] <In54n0> #ubuntu-br
[05:28] <greylurk> Well, it's down to 9 minutes now... Just bouncing all over the place.
[05:28] <celthunder> Souperman: that's just plain wrong
[05:29] <rgoytacaz> celthunder: wow, whats that for? free aggression?
[05:29] <xsinick> taglass i got them to work but this new ubuntu  11.04 is crappy as Blender 3d is spanning two workspaces every time i luanch it
[05:29] <Jordan_U> rgoytacaz: Ubuntu doesn't install the proprietary drivers by default. And they are technically superior in many ways, especially when it comes to 3D accelleration.
[05:29] <_ryx_> need help ---> UNKNOWN MONITOR
[05:29] <carandraug> tanath, the dependencies are not removed if you install from things such as synaptic or ubuntu software center. If you want dependencies to be removed, you need to installl with apt-get or aptitude
[05:29] <celthunder> rgoytacaz: nah lol just saying...using the oss drivers works for 99/100 things...try them out first
[05:29] <rgoytacaz> celthunder: take that to wtv you live, not here.
[05:29] <tanath> carandraug, aptitude is what i use
[05:29] <_ryx_> need help ---> UNKNOWN MONITOR
[05:30] <arand> _ryx_: Don't repeat.
[05:30] <laumonier> i try to remove transmission with apt-get remove transmission but it says that its not install but it is an ideo to remove this ???
[05:30] <lsheeba> looks like i have to go buy a cd LOL
[05:30] <greylurk> _ryx_ we heard you.  What kind of monitor do you have?
[05:30] <carandraug> tanath, then I don't know. Maybe you have something else installed that needs those dependencies
[05:30] <celthunder> laumonier: transmission-gtk
[05:30] <rgoytacaz> Jordan_U: I know, but from my experience we always have problems with that driver, maybe an option which we can choose between during install, maybe it work okay.
[05:30] <yi`zhi> OMG this is taking soooo long to download
[05:30] <tanath> carandraug, can't think what
[05:30] <yi`zhi> and i have a final tomorrow. i kinda don't wanna sleep until i've figured it out
[05:30] <lsheeba> yes
[05:30] <lsheeba> yi
[05:30] <carandraug> laumonier, pastebin "aptitude search transmission" please
[05:30] <Souperman> celthunder, just stay here a few more days and see the amount of people asking things like "I upgraded and now stuff that used to work dont work anymore", it has already started
[05:31] <Jordan_U> rgoytacaz: You said that you want the open source drivers to be default. They are.
[05:31] <xsinick> gonna remove the nvidia addtional drivers and see if that help ubuntu to work correct
[05:31] <lsheeba> yi`zhi, i have downloaded the alternate i386 ubuntu 11.04 from torrent and it downloads fast 1500kb/s
[05:31] <carandraug> tanath, see "aptitude show package_who_does_uninstall"
[05:31] <zombor> hey, i just tried creating a bootable usb from the download image, and it wont boot from my machine, anyone know why? i used dd on my mac to copy the image to my usb key. ive booted from the same usb key for other linux distros...
[05:31] <laumonier> celthunder ty
[05:31] <rgoytacaz> anyways, I'm trying for the 3rd time a install using different parameters, let see what happens.
[05:31] <mknarr> can anyone tell me how to change the group of all the files in a directory at once
[05:31] <yi`zhi> lsheeba, oooh
[05:31] <celthunder> Souperman: i'm on arch...which is rolling release...which just proves the above statement abundantly false ...as does gentoo, slackware, lfs, etc
[05:31] <yi`zhi> thanks for that!
[05:31] <rgoytacaz> Anyone figured out the shutdown/boot problems?
[05:31] <celthunder> Souperman: all of them allow you to pretty much update anything whenever you want as long a you upgrade everything else with it
[05:31] <taglass> zombor: dd doesnt work for ubuntu images.  use netbootin
[05:31] <lsheeba> but the problem is yi`zhi  is that u wont be able to upgrade somehow !!! :S theirs some kind of bug, the only way is to make a cd , i tried emulating a cd and mounting it then running but doesnt work
[05:32] <lsheeba> yi`zhi, maybe if i used an application rather then terminal might work , let me test :D
[05:32] <zombor> taglass: the instructions say to use dd, and unetbootin doesnt list my usb key
[05:32] <DigitalUn1corn>  I'm having a problem where I go to click on things within a window, but it selects stuff from the window behind it.  Anyone know of a fix?
[05:32] <NotTooDumb3> hi all, is there any option within skype to record call?
[05:32] <nxvl> does anyone know why is the dash in my unity always maximized?
[05:32] <mexcian> helo wat room is dis?
[05:32] <Captainkrtek> anyone here running natty and have a printer installed?
[05:32] <Jordan_U> zombor: A dd'd Ubuntu image will only boot on EFI machines (like intel macs).
[05:32] <celthunder> NotTooDumb3: it's a plugin
[05:32] <z0x1c> mknarr: From a terminal: `chgrp -R groupname /dir/name` - prefix with "sudo" if your account can't change the group.
[05:32] <taglass> zombor: new one to me.  I've never had any luck dding ubuntu images
[05:32] <tanath> anyone know why tab completion takes FOREVER in 10.10?
[05:32] <Souperman> oh well, good luck people, fixing all your upgrading problems, see ya later
[05:32] <nxvl> or where i can help on that?
[05:33] <lsheeba> NotTooDumb3, their are third party softwares that does it
[05:33] <zombor> Jordan_U: i have an intel efi pc
[05:33] <pyrodood> 11.04 cd won't boot, see the purple ubuntu screen for a while then get no init found. try passing init= bootarg
[05:33] <Captainkrtek> anyone here running natty and have a printer installed?
[05:33] <Jordan_U> zombor: Did you use the 64 bit image?
[05:33] <nxvl> one of my machines has it maximized the other one not
[05:33] <zombor> no, 32
[05:33] <mknarr> z0x1c thanks
[05:33] <celthunder> Captainkrtek: what's your printer doing
[05:33] <Jordan_U> zombor: Only the 64 bit iso has EFI support.
[05:33] <zombor> >_<
[05:33] <pyrodood> any ideas?
[05:33] <cntb> ubuntu 11.04 upgrade available popped up i am happy with MM 10.10 any suggestions?
[05:33] <Captainkrtek> celthunder, I need someone to verify documentation
[05:33] <lsheeba> Captainkrtek, i have natty still didnt upgrade and yes hp printer installed working fine / network and USB both does
[05:33] <Captainkrtek> lsheeba, may I PM you?
[05:33] <carandraug> cntb, then don't upgrade
[05:33] <ncg> any  help please ?
[05:34] <lsheeba> Captainkrtek, sure
[05:34] <Captainkrtek> thanks
[05:34] <rgoytacaz> cntb: dont upgrade yet :)
[05:34] <zombor> Jordan_U: the 64 bit download has "amd64" in the filename
[05:34] <freaky[t]> im using ubuntu classic because this unity suddenly stops hiding itself etc.
[05:34] <ikevin_> does anyone know how to force 2 ethernet ports (same NIC) go around the ethernet switch to see each other?? :D
[05:34] <Jordan_U> zombor: AMD64 is the 64 bit x86 architecture started by AMD and used by both AMD and Intel.
[05:34] <taglass> amd64 covers amd and intel.  ia64 is Itanium
[05:35] <cntb> k thks carandraug  and rgoytacaz  avoiding that popup how can i nvoke later?
[05:35] <carandraug> cntb, I mean, people tend to prefer the latest version, but if it works for you, then don't upgrade. It may just create more problems. I'd give it a 2-3 weeks before thinking upgrading. I'm still using 10.04
[05:35] <zombor> k, im just used to seeing x86_64
[05:35] <celthunder> ikevin_: crossover cable
[05:35] <cntb> that is the LTS
[05:35] <celthunder> ikevin_: or straight through depending what the nics are
[05:35] <roknir> wow, even the 11.04 installer is buggy.  =o
[05:35] <carandraug> cntb, It should be available on the update manager every time you go there
[05:35] <ikevin_> celthunder, if i do iperf it will give me 18Gb/s
[05:35] <mknarr> z0x1c thx man
[05:35] <nmvictor> Natty will definately take ubuntu on much greater heights. Canonical income will increse majorly due to their cloud-platforms-intergration coz soon we are gonna have many users.
[05:36] <cntb> roknir if true a good point
[05:36] <tanath> carandraug, removing recommends manually doesn't remove any other packages either
[05:36] <ikevin_> celthunder, they are tx/rx locally!
[05:36] <cntb> thks roknir
[05:36] <barcef> is there a replacement for cryptkeeper for natty? I can't get my icon to show up o nthe bar when I run it.
[05:36] <pyrodood> trying to boot natty narwahl 11.04 and it won't load any help?
[05:36] <roknir> cntb: first ubuntu release in quite some time where i've had to use the text installer to be able to install to a VM.  -_-
[05:37] <carandraug> cntb, yes. I upgraded to 10.10 but went back because I had some problems with the unity interface. I liked it but it was still to slow and had a few bugs that made it incomaptible with Gnome DO
[05:37] <ikevin_> celthunder, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742551
[05:37] <Belinrahs> does anyone have experience installing Ralink wifi drivers on ubuntu? I can never make them work
[05:37] <celthunder> Belinrahs: chipset?
[05:37] <celthunder> ikevin_: ok i'll read that ina moment
[05:37] <rgoytacaz> Install Failed: ERROR: modinfo: could not find module nvidia_current
[05:37] <tanath> carandraug, gnome-do uses a lot of space, depending on mono & such. synapse is a great lightweight alternative
[05:37] <Belinrahs> its just called the 5390 as far as I know
[05:37] <cntb> so i will opt for ask later on 11.04 upgrade cu
[05:38] <rgoytacaz> thats what I get during install of 11.04
[05:38] <ezrafree> hello
[05:38] <tanath> carandraug, only downside i've found is lack of pidgin integration so i can't easily bring up chat windows
[05:38] <rgoytacaz> ERROR: could not find module vmxnet
[05:38] <ezrafree> how can i cd into /var/spool/cron ? i get an error that "cd" is not a sudo command
[05:38] <cntb> when is later ? each restart of computer?
[05:38] <carandraug> tanath, when you run "aptitude show package_name", does it says "Automatically installed: yes" somewhere on the output?
[05:39] <nmvictor> tanath: though I wish synapses would have had much plugins like gnomedo
[05:39] <taglass> ezrafree: cd is a shell builtin.  try sudo bash
[05:39] <ikevin_> celthunder, ok, take ur time
[05:39] <tanath> carandraug, i remember from when i installed it that everything was automatically installed except for 'unity'
[05:39] <Belinrahs> celthunder: not sure if it told you i replied, its the ralink 5390
[05:39] <arand> tanath: ezrafree: sudo -s rather
[05:39] <carandraug> tanath, I mainly use Gnome DO to open programs and folders, and shut down the computer. Not the plugins so much
[05:39] <pyrodood> no init found. try passing init= bootarg.
[05:40] <carandraug> tanath, yes. But is it marked by aptitude as automatically installed? If you run that command, it should say
[05:40] <celthunder> ikevin_: switch justno router?
[05:40] <tanath> carandraug, synapse has a fair bit. enough for most things, including zeitgeist which i don't think gnome-do has
[05:40] <ikevin_> celthunder, just switch
[05:40] <nmvictor> carandraug: should try out some plugins, you'll realy save alot of time for other things in yout linuxbox.
[05:40] <celthunder> ikevin_: :/ not sure then
[05:41] <ikevin_> celthunder, try to do 10Gb fiber...
[05:41] <ezrafree> arand: thank you so much!
[05:41] <greylurk> Ok...  I went to do dishes, and came back, and now it's at 14 minutes remaining.   This is getting strange.
[05:41] <ikevin_> celthunder, the 10Gb dual NIC is so expensive, i only had 1
[05:41] <celthunder> ikevin_: fibre ends are annoying...or maybe that's just cause i do them with bad equipment
[05:41] <nmvictor> tanath: what exactly does zeitgeist do, I have come acoss that several times but never knew its importance
[05:41] <ikevin_> celthunder, no, i did 10Gb to 1 Gb , it worked fine
[05:41] <greylurk> 24 -> 26 -> 9 -> 24 -> 14  I suppose that at least half the time the number is going down.
[05:41] <carandraug> tanath, I'll give it a try, thanks. By the way, Gnome DO was developed by the same guy behind Unity
[05:42] <ikevin_> celthunder, i get like 970Mb/s in iperf which is good
[05:42] <celthunder> ikevin_: i meant like physically doing them
[05:42] <celthunder> not routing them /etc
[05:42] <tanath> carandraug, interesting. i like gnome do, but iffy about unity... yet anyway
[05:42] <pyrodood> 11.04 live cd won't boot any help?
[05:42] <carandraug> nmvictor, I gave a look at the plugins. But I spent most of my time on gedit and a terminal. And have shortcuts on the keyboard for pretty much everything else I do so I don't need them much
[05:42] <ikevin_> celthunder, yea pcb routing is kind strict
[05:42] <greylurk> pyrodood what happens?
[05:42] <bullgard4> '~$ ip addr; 192.168.178.26'. '~$ sudo dhclient eth0; bound to 192.168.178.26'. What is bound here to what?
[05:42] <rgoytacaz> Anyone knows the cause why you can't shutdown/boot Ubuntu 11.04 after install?
[05:42] <doc|home> I'm watching unity vids on youtube. Is it possible to disable the unified toolbar? (e.g. the OS X toolbar in the top no matter where your window is)
[05:43] <ikevin_> celthunder, testing some evel board now
[05:43] <taglass> carandraug: I didn't know that.. maybe he can do something about alt-f2 this dev cycle :)
[05:43] <doc|home> s/OS X/OS X style
[05:43] <celthunder> ikevin_: hook me up with some hw :)
[05:43] <ikevin_> celthunder, eval*
[05:43] <ikevin_> celthunder, haha yea right
[05:43] <izinucs> bullgard4: you got virtual box installed?
[05:43] <carandraug> tanath, same here. The most weirtd thing was that they conflict with each other. You try Super +space and Unity intercepts it
[05:43] <tanath> nmvictor, it's sort of a history log of comp activity so you can quickly access things you've done before. gnome activity journal provides a front end, and it integrates with synapse and has plugins for things like banshee and xchat
[05:43] <bullgard4> izinucs: No.
[05:43] <rgoytacaz> Anyone knows the cause why you can't shutdown/boot Ubuntu 11.04 after install?
[05:43] <pyrodood> i see the purple screen for a while
[05:43] <pyrodood> then the screen goes black
[05:43] <celthunder> rgoytacaz: hold alt i think
[05:44] <tanath> carandraug, one reason i don't want to use unity. it coopts some shortcuts i use
[05:44] <celthunder> rgoytacaz: or ctrl
[05:44] <pyrodood> then it says no init found.
[05:44] <ikevin_> celthunder, i guess i can do vlan on the Eth Switch then?
[05:44] <pyrodood> try passing init=bootarg
[05:44] <rgoytacaz> celthunder: yea, it says crash manager something fails
[05:44] <ruan> is gnome3 supported here?
[05:44] <greylurk> pyrodood try ctrl-alt-f1 and see if it's completely locked up or if it's just having prolblems with your vid card.
[05:44] <gilmar> ubuntu-br?
[05:44] <ikevin_> celthunder, have those 2 ports in  different subnets?
[05:44] <carandraug> taglass, I find the best way to have something done on free software is to report the bug, request a feature. If already has been requested, say that you also want it. And if you can code, submit a patch. The last thing works for me every single time :p
[05:45] <celthunder> ikevin_: yeh put them in different vlans and use the pc as the router to itself...
[05:45] <taglass> carandraug: fair enough :)
[05:45] <doc|home> anyone?
[05:45] <carandraug> !pt | gilmar
[05:45] <pyrodood> i don't see any change with ctrl+alt+f1 but i can type commands
[05:45] <celthunder> ikevin_: what's your switch?
[05:45] <cntb> carandraug:  how did you go back ?have both  on grub menu or how you down graded
[05:45] <ikevin_> celthunder, nda with marvell
[05:45] <pyrodood> perhaps i should say type characters i don't know if they are commands
[05:46] <ikevin_> celthunder, cant tell u hahha
[05:46] <carandraug> cntb, you can't go back. I had to reinstall 10.04
[05:46] <bullgard4> ruan: GNOME 3 is a project in progress. You can download a GNOME 3 DEB program package from a PPA.
[05:46] <pyrodood> 10.10 live cd does boot
[05:46] <schneidmaster> Hey all, I'm getting a problem with updating my release.  I'd like to upgrade to natty but when I try to check for new updates via the update manager I get this error:
[05:46] <schneidmaster> W:Failed to fetch http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/dists/maverick/Release  Unable to find expected entry  (Source/source/Sources in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[05:46] <schneidmaster> , E:Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[05:46] <FloodBot3> schneidmaster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:46] <ikevin_> celthunder, its not even released yet so docs sux
[05:46] <greylurk> pyrodood it sounds like the gui install having some difficulty recognizing your video card.  try command line install?
[05:46] <nmvictor> I dont need Unity, as long as its panel is not removable nor modifyable, that imposes a restriction I cant live with, Gnome give musch freedom.
[05:46] <ruan> yeah im using gnome3 but i get this error on trying to launch nautilus: Gtk-ERROR **: GTK+ 2.x symbols detected. Using GTK+ 2.x and GTK+ 3 in the same process is not supported
[05:46] <schneidmaster> any ideas?
[05:46] <ikevin_> celthunder, dont want to change the registers manullay :(
[05:47] <ikevin_> celthunder, manually*
[05:47] <ruan> how could i disable one of them?
[05:47] <doc|home> nmvictor: I'm with you there
[05:47] <pyrodood> i don't know how to do command line install
[05:47] <cntb> that is repartitioning carandraug  why not have possibility as the small updates kept all in grub?
[05:47] <jaypro> j
[05:47] <celthunder> ikevin_: :/ ouch...is it that different from other switches/routers?
[05:47] <will_> anyone know where i can find help on screenlets, looking to change my screenlets units to farenheit not celcius
[05:47] <rgoytacaz> So Installing 11.04 without download the updates seems to work for me.
[05:47] <rgoytacaz> So no updates for a long time.
[05:48] <tanath> will_, ugh. get with the times :P
[05:48] <rgoytacaz> But nvidia still doesnt work.
[05:48] <gilmar> thanks. bye
[05:48] <celthunder> ikevin_: from the variety of cisco routers/switches/etc i used 9/10 times the commands are the same despite model
[05:48] <Wickedspawn> ok, twice now I have gotten a black box of death.....
[05:48] <will_> trying, dont understand these units though lol
[05:48] <carandraug> taglass, it's really good. I'm no programmer but started slowly by fixing erros in man pages and documentations. Then on small simple scripts. It just sucks you up in and before you know it, you're sending patches to the devs to fix all your bugs and half your drive is the trunk version of the programs you have installed. Free software is amazing like that
[05:48] <tanath> will_, 0C is freezing. 100C is boiling
[05:48] <tanath> will_, both are same at -40
[05:49] <pyrodood> if i do command line install will the video card work after that?
[05:49] <ikevin_> celthunder, this is one server design, its not an COTS switch
[05:49] <Wickedspawn> this little thing appears on one of my screens, I hover over it to find it is actually a program all smashed up, so I enlarge it and it is just nothing but black... sort of like a dead terminal screen. I exit the thing and unity dies.
[05:49] <slayer> hello all
[05:49] <tanath> will_, ~22C is room temp
[05:49] <remoford> where did the network places go in unity, like the ssh and samba connect to server bookmarks?
[05:49] <slayer> does anybody know a good place to get left-handed cursors for KDE 4.2?
[05:49] <will_> o well thats all i need then, thanks for the heads up, i just need to estimate a rough closeness to matching *F
[05:49] <ikevin_> celthunder, the IC switch is still dev, so we just testing the eval board now
[05:49] <will_> thank
[05:49] <rgoytacaz> So I removed the nvidia driver, which said that it couldnt display Unity and the default OSS does display, fuck nvidia.
[05:49] <zooko> Dear people of #ubuntu: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro5-3/Maverick#Touchpad says that click-and-drag works on my Macbook Pro 5,3. But it doesn't! When I click, hold the button down, and then drag then the mouse cursor does not move.
[05:50] <carandraug> cntb, what do you mean? Grub only points to the linux kernel. Even if you kept the old one, when you upgrade to 11.04, you'll upgrade every bit of software you have installed. All of them will be on the lateste version. It has nothing to do with GRUB
[05:50] <IdleOne> !language | rgoytacaz
[05:50] <celthunder> ikevin_: ah
[05:50] <celthunder> ikevin_: well nice job...i'm envious....if you're hiring...let me know :)
[05:51] <bullgard4> ruan: Basically by de-installing the associated DEB program package. But it is difficult to deinstall GNOME 2 in Ubuntu because Ubuntu has many metapackages and thus side effects.
[05:51] <tanath> will_, below about 10 it starts feeling cold enough to want to dress warm
[05:51] <ikevin_> celthunder, u hw or sw?
[05:51] <celthunder> ikevin_: mix of both
[05:51] <celthunder> ikevin_: more software
[05:51] <ikevin_> celthunder, we're in Socal
[05:52] <zooko> Hm, also Ctrl-click doesn't seem to right-click like I expect. Am I wrong about that?
[05:52] <ikevin_> celthunder, im in HW but SW dept is hiring too i think
[05:52] <pfifo> anyone know a way to create a screenshot of the desktop using ONLy the cli?
[05:52] <celthunder> ikevin_: move this to pm?
[05:52] <remoford> unity is working pretty well, but just cant find "places" anymore
[05:52] <greylurk> pfifo like a screenshot of the cli?
[05:52] <ikevin_> celthunder, sure
[05:52] <taglass> pfifo: scrot
[05:53] <pfifo> greylurk, no, X, but it must be invoked from cli and require no user intervention.
[05:53] <bullgard4> '~$ ip addr; 192.168.178.26'. '~$ sudo dhclient eth0; bound to 192.168.178.26'. What is bound here to what?
[05:53] <asiekierka> Hello
[05:53] <asiekierka> So I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04
[05:53] <zooko> Ohh... if I click by tapping on the mousepad, then I *can* drag...
[05:54] <asiekierka> now my OS is a complete s**tfest
[05:54] <asiekierka> in GDM everything blinks the menus are not visible
[05:54] <asiekierka> i got here from irssi actually :/
[05:54] <zooko> But if I click by clicking the clicky area of the mousepad with one finger and then dragging with the other, then I can't. Hm.
[05:54] <ubuntu> Does all work ok with the upgrade???
[05:54] <asiekierka> NOPE
[05:54] <ubuntu> Im thinking if I should or should not upgrade now
[05:54] <asiekierka> don't
[05:55] <asiekierka> i just ruined my Ubuntu installation using the standard way
[05:55] <asiekierka> and have no idea how to fix it
[05:55] <laumonier> each time i use a password there the key gest who appears and ask me and password but nothing works what should i do???thx
[05:55] <carandraug> ubuntu, the way I see it, if it ain't broken don't fix it
[05:55] <ubuntu> Wow, better I wait
[05:55] <asiekierka> anyone with 11.04 can help :/
[05:55] <asiekierka> this is really bad =(
[05:55] <carandraug> ubuntu, http://xkcd.com/349/ <-- like this
[05:55] <remoford> upgrade worked for me but it took 7hrs, servers very slow
[05:55] <asiekierka> i need to use my computer to move some files now but i really can't
[05:55] <tanath> carandraug, if it ain't broke, you haven't fiddled with it enough
[05:55] <xsinick_laptop> ubuntu warning do not upgrade
[05:55] <asiekierka> unless i use cp /*
[05:55] <asiekierka> or something
[05:56] <xsinick_laptop> I too messed yup my install
[05:56] <asiekierka> xsinick_laptop in what way
[05:56] <greylurk> I just did an upgrade in about an hour and a half.
[05:56] <carandraug> tanath, ahahahah! Too true
[05:56] <xsinick_laptop>  I'm now on my 10.10 laptop
[05:56] <greylurk> Seems to be working so far, but I haven't checked all of the Nvidia stuff.
[05:56] <asiekierka> i use Nvidia
[05:56] <asiekierka> >:(
[05:56] <asiekierka> i use Nvidia and the entire Gnome (notifications and desktop) blinks for me on/off
[05:56] <asiekierka> and the menus aren't visible at all
[05:56] <fezzik02> usr13: booted into failsafex, ran the Additional Drivers wizard, installed the new nvidia drivers, and voila!!! it works!
[05:56] <carandraug> asiekierka, oh! Someone here was complaining about the NVidia drivers just a few minutes ago
[05:57] <ubuntu> Does unity looks and works better than gnome??
[05:57] <asiekierka> carandraug i'll just run ./fixgpu.sh to install the beta drivers i use
[05:57] <asiekierka> i'll see if it helps
[05:57] <tanath> remoford, System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from, Other > Select best server
[05:57] <doc|home> ubuntu: no, it has silly stuff
[05:57] <asiekierka> (my own script)
[05:57] <zombor> Jordan_U: still doesnt work :(
[05:57] <tanath> remoford, prolly would have saved you some time :p
[05:57] <asiekierka> brb
[05:57] <taglass> I've used Linux for 18 years and I don't think I've ever done an upgrade.  Better to do fresh installs.
[05:57] <greylurk> seems to work ok with the default NVidia drivers, upgrading to the "current" ones now to see what happens.
[05:57] <ezrafree> hello all. i just got an error at boot-up that the "GNOME Power Manager configuration was not installed" and i figured out it was cause my hard drive got full cause of a backup script i run. i deleted the files and was able to log in again, but now when i start thunderbird my accounts are all gone. any way to repair it?
[05:57] <carandraug> ubuntu, looks better and works better are very relative things
[05:58] <zooko> Hrm, and ppa:jdstrand/ppa doesn't seem to have natty packages. Ugh.
[05:58] <remoford> tanath: yeah i didnt mind much, watched a stream as it upgraded
[05:58] <greylurk> All in all, I think I like Unity, but it's hard to tell what apps are installed.
[05:58] <zooko> Wellll... back to Mac OS X for the time being. Thanks for listening, folks. :-)
[05:58] <remoford> if only i could find out where the network places bookmarks went
[05:58] <carandraug> greylurk, is it true it's the default now, even for the desktop version?
[05:58] <zetheroo1> Would anyone like to know how to get the weather applet/indicator back into the top "panel"/bar in 11.04 ? :)
[05:58] <tanath> ubuntu, you may want to stick with gnome ('classic session') 'till unity is more polished
[05:59] <greylurk> carandraug yep.  Hard to decide what I think about it just yet though
[05:59] <ubuntu> Ohh and what about gnome 3??
[05:59] <ubuntu> I like gnome
[05:59] <tanath> zetheroo1, it goes away? yes please
[05:59] <russell--> how to get rid of the horrible new interface?
[05:59] <carandraug> ubuntu, you can upgrade to 11.04 and still keep the classic gnome
[05:59] <_Platypus_> Question- is there anyway to make the Unity bar smaller?
[05:59] <asiekierka> Derrrrp
[05:59] <asiekierka> this is NOT what i intended
[05:59] <asiekierka> :[
[05:59] <asiekierka> the drivers didn't help
[05:59] <asiekierka> what to do now
[05:59] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:00] <tanath> zetheroo1, actually, i'm not using an applet. it's built into the time & date thing in previous versions
[06:00] <taglass> russell--: logout and select classic from sessions
[06:00] <carandraug> greylurk, on the netbook on 10.10 looked nice but way too slow for my very old computer
[06:00] <Sexygurl2furl> excuse me
[06:00] <zetheroo1> tanath: well it's no longer there in 11.04 ... I'll tell you how to get it back :)
[06:00] <Sexygurl2furl> how do i get java on ubuntu?
[06:00] <asiekierka> carandraug didn't you know how to fix the nvidia issues?
[06:00] <Sexygurl2furl> like what is the command
[06:00] <tanath> zetheroo1, built into time & date still?
[06:00] <Sexygurl2furl> i forgot it. :X
[06:00] <russell--> who ever came up with that is FIRED
[06:00] <greylurk> carandraug I'm running on a reasonably modern system, but it's reasonably snappy for me.
[06:01] <zetheroo1> tanath: no ... in 11.04 it's gone! No longer built into the time/date
[06:01] <tanath> zetheroo1, >.< ok, so how?
[06:01] <carandraug> asiekierka, no. I only use graphics card from intel that don't give problems. I said someone here a few minutes ago was having problems and I think fixed by installing the OSS version of them
[06:01] <asiekierka> oh
[06:01] <russell--> taglass: what "sesssions"?
[06:01] <asiekierka> i... am honestly annoyed by this fact and hope a fix is released
[06:01] <taglass> rickyrick: apt-get install default-jre
[06:01] <tanath> honestly, seems like 11.04 is a regression. they should have held back until it was ready
[06:01] <zetheroo1> tanath: so what you do is install "indicator-weather" from Synaptic or terminal ... then add it to Startup Applications ... logout/login ... ;)
[06:02] <asiekierka> is there a way to get the OSS nvidia drivers into Ubuntu? like, by command line
[06:02] <taglass> russell--: it's a drop down box at the bottom of the login screen
[06:02] <rikrikthetik> What is the command to get JAva on Ubuntu?
[06:02] <carandraug> greylurk, mayb I should upgrade mine. 1GB RAM, 40GB of HDD and a single CPU of 1.6GhZ
[06:02] <asiekierka> rikriktherik: ugh... apt-get install default-jre
[06:02] <asiekierka> just do it as root
[06:02] <rikrikthetik> thanks
[06:02] <tanath> zetheroo1, ah, i saw that in unity recommends...
[06:02] <carandraug> asiekierka, I think it was rgoytacaz
[06:03] <tanath> zetheroo1, thanks for tip
[06:03] <carandraug> rikrikthetik, not as root. With sudo
[06:03] <greylurk> carandraug, yeah, that's definitely a bit dated.  I'd almost suggest running xubuntu on that instead of gnome.
[06:03] <russell--> taglass /me doesn't see it
[06:03] <zetheroo1>  tanath: i was so overjoyed when I found it in synaptic ... hehe ... I should probably read more of the docs on the release ...
[06:03] <rikrikthetik> thanks
[06:03] <asiekierka> what was the X configuration command for ubuntu actually?
[06:03] <bullgard4> '~$ ip addr; 192.168.178.26'. '~$ sudo dhclient eth0; bound to 192.168.178.26'. What is bound here to what?
[06:03] <asiekierka> i think there was one
[06:03] <asiekierka> not sure
[06:03] <asiekierka> maybe i mistook it for another system
[06:03] <yi`zhi> wooo! i'm almost done downloading
[06:03] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:03] <yi`zhi> yay
[06:03] <tanath> zetheroo1, still have detailed info in tooltip?
[06:03] <Captainkrtek> who here is running natty and has a printer?
[06:03] <carandraug> greylurk, I have an even older one. But that's running Debian testing :p
[06:03] <ubuntu> Its the first time that I test this chat and is very helpful, thanks to all people for the invaluable information that you share in this channel, see you tomorrow!
[06:04] <zetheroo1>  tanath: no probs ... I also found out how to make the sidebar launchers smaller
[06:04] <bazhang> bullgard4, its a lease (ie dhcp) your computer to the router
[06:04] <tanath> bullgard4, ip bound to eth0 interface
[06:04] <zetheroo1>  tanath: sorry ... dunno about tooltip ...
[06:04] <Captainkrtek> anyone here on natty with a printer?
[06:04] <superproxy> how do you the md5sum of a burned install cd, i'm having problems installing natty
[06:04] <Captainkrtek> need someone to test a little bit of documentation
[06:04] <carandraug> ubuntu, see you. You come back some other time and help other people too. Makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside
[06:04] <tanath> zetheroo1, don't know what a tooltip is? when you hover mouse over somethign and info box pops up
[06:05] <asiekierka> so, what was the x video configuration command in Ubuntu 11.04 (command-line)
[06:05] <russell--> taglass, i see a little "man" icon that gives me "Universal Access Preferences" and the power button icon, which gives me "suspend, restart, shutdown"
[06:05] <zetheroo1>  tanath: Unity lacks a GUI interface for editing the dash and sidebar ... but I am hoping it will come soon
[06:05] <ruan> superproxy: you do a cd check by going into text mode of the livecd
[06:05] <bazhang> superproxy, you md5 the iso, check disk integrity of the cd
[06:05] <carandraug> superproxy, you don't. When booting from the CD, there should be an optiomn to check CD for defects
[06:05] <greylurk> I'm still hoping Canonical picks up the old Sun CDE, and produces cubuntu
[06:05] <kjxl9> hello
[06:05] <zetheroo1>  tanath: oh ... I haven't paid any attention to that ... :P
[06:05] <Captainkrtek> anyone here on natty with a printer?
[06:05] <bazhang> !brainstorm | greylurk
[06:05] <Captainkrtek> need someone to test a little bit of documentation
[06:05] <tanath> zetheroo1, hovering over weather in 10.10 shows things like 'broken clouds, feels like temp, wind speed, sunrise & sunset'
[06:05] <bazhang> Captainkrtek, yes
[06:06] <asiekierka> :(
[06:06] <greylurk> lol that was actually a joke.
[06:06] <Captainkrtek> bazhang, may I PM you please? :-)
[06:06] <tanath> zetheroo1, so check 11.04 for me
[06:06] <kjxl9> how do i change my screen resolution?
[06:06] <bullgard4> bazhang, tanath Thank you very much for your help.
[06:06] <Robert__> my upgrade failed
[06:06] <bazhang> Captainkrtek, please ask here
[06:06] <Captainkrtek> bazhang, it isn't a question, im on the Ubuntu-Doc team, just need someone to verify a method
[06:06] <bazhang> greylurk, then #ubuntu-offtopic for silliness please
[06:06] <carandraug> kjxl9, go to preferences > monitor. Should be there
[06:06] <superproxy> so https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM is wrong? im confus o_O
[06:06] <Captainkrtek> don't have a printer of my own to test on right now
[06:06] <bazhang> Captainkrtek, how about I join that channel then
[06:07] <Captainkrtek> okay
[06:07] <Captainkrtek> #ubuntu-doc
[06:07] <bazhang> Captainkrtek, #ubuntu-docs ?
[06:07] <kjxl9> ... where is preferences?
[06:07] <bazhang> ok no s
[06:07] <zetheroo1>  tanath: ah, I see what you mean ... I will have to check that out when I get home ... (at the office atm ...)
[06:07] <superproxy> how do i go into text mode?
[06:07] <Captainkrtek> just #ubuntu-doc bazhang
[06:07] <carandraug> kjxl9, at least on the old version was that. On th new version, with unity, if memmory doesn't fail me, just type monitors on the search box
[06:07] <skrapp_jaw> does anyone know of a good onscreen keyboard that can be controlled like the ones on the ps3?
[06:07] <greylurk> Gah!  Funky scrollbars.
[06:07] <zetheroo1>  tanath: from what I am seeing here (on the net) it's supposed to have it ...
[06:07] <eiriksvin> um, is it ok to install the missing plugins from pandora.com
[06:07] <eiriksvin> ?
[06:07] <tanath> zetheroo1, mmk
[06:08] <tanath> skramer, tried gok?
[06:08] <eiriksvin> my ubuntu is 10.10 and fresh install so i dont know if its ok
[06:09] <tanath> skramer, sorry, wrong nick. other left
[06:09] <zetheroo1>  tanath: mmk?
[06:09] <tanath> zetheroo1, think phonetically
[06:10] <zetheroo1>  tanath: gotcha ...
[06:10] <zetheroo1>  tanath: why are you not running 11.04?
[06:10] <histo> eiriksvin: you can switch to classic mode instead of unity at the login screen. It's a session choice
[06:10] <histo> zetheroo1: many people may not switch
[06:10] <tanath> zetheroo1, 'cause i don't think i'll like unity
[06:11] <asiekierka> :|
[06:11] <zetheroo1>  tanath: yeah, I have had mixed feelings about it too
[06:11] <bazhang> asiekierka, whats the issue
[06:11] <tanath> zetheroo1, i've got everything set up how i like it. i'm nice and efficient and no annoyances. upgrading will break a number of things for me, like shortcuts
[06:11] <zetheroo1>  tanath: though one could always upgrade and just use the classic session instead ...
[06:11] <ace__> hey guys. my ubutnu upgrade is frozen. it has said 11 minutes remaining for about 6 hours now. its stuck at install setserial. should i force quit it and run it again?
[06:11] <eiriksvin> yeah, i know... but i was on it at my moms house (she got 10.10 yesterday thanx to me, then updated today to 11.04)
[06:12] <zetheroo1> histo: mostly due to Unity right!?
[06:12] <tanath> zetheroo1, oh, i will when i upgrade... i'm also waiting for a few days after release at least for the wave of inevitable bug fixes
[06:12] <zetheroo1>  tanath: definitely the smart route
[06:12] <eiriksvin> yeah, nice looks... not impressed yet, it needs alot of options added
[06:12] <tanath> zetheroo1, i typically upgrade a month or so before release. first i'm i've not wanted to upgrade
[06:13] <histo> zetheroo1: well you don't have to use unity on 11.04 but I still run 10.04 on my servers etc...
[06:13] <red2kic> Heh. They took away options to make your life easier (ie focus on your work instead of playing around with background settings).
[06:13] <tanath> zetheroo1, but there's some drastic changes being made. will be better in long run, but we're not there yet. so i wait
[06:13] <zetheroo1>  tanath: so your really holding out on this one
[06:13] <tanath> zetheroo1, *first time
[06:13] <zetheroo1> histo: I hear you
[06:13] <eiriksvin> um how do i fix this: The package indexes are currently changed by apt-get.
[06:14] <jmwpc> ace_: I was in the same spot for about 6 hours, I eventually opened up system monitor and saw that there was still network activity... eventually it finished downloading everything and finished, but it took a while.
[06:14] <eiriksvin> in Ubuntu Software center
[06:14] <vishal_> Hello. Is it normal for the upgrade to 11.04 to download files at a speed slower than my connectivity is capable of?
[06:14] <tanath> histo, 10.10 is better than 10.04... only benefit is LTS if you're sticking with pre 11.04 for a while
[06:14] <zetheroo1>  tanath: do you think "they" will allow for the customisation of the launcher side-bar and dash in the future?
[06:14] <ace__> hmmkay, i'll leave it on then
[06:14] <bazhang> vishal_, currently yes, as its the first day of release
[06:14] <extraclassic> everyone seems to have trouble upgrading....i bet if you edited sources.list and did dist-upgrade you'd have a better chance of it working
[06:14] <vishal_> bazhang ah i see. it's because the servers are being flooded with requests? Okay got it. Thanks.
[06:15] <tanath> vishal_, servers are being hammered due to release. use  System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from, Other > Select best server
[06:15] <extraclassic> because upgrading debian isn't a problem
[06:15] <zachgretzinger> Is there a way to remove Natty and install Maverick without losing my files and programs?
[06:15] <tanath> zetheroo1, well things are always improving... not very often there's a step backwards
[06:15] <zetheroo1>  tanath: true that
[06:15] <bazhang> zachgretzinger, got a separate home partition? want to make one?
[06:15] <red2kic> zachgretzinger: Back up /home/zach/ and /etc/
[06:15] <histo> tanath: just because the version number is higher doesn't make it better fyi. 10.04 is LTS. people running servers aren't going to jump to the latest greates bug filled release
[06:15] <bazhang> !home | zachgretzinger
[06:16] <ejv> hello, how do I get the menu bar back in gnome-terminal? File, Edit, etc...
[06:16] <ejv> (using Unity)
[06:16] <tanath> histo, i'm not basing it on version number. i'm basing it on my experience
[06:16] <bazhang> ejv, choose ubuntu classic instead?
[06:16] <tanath> histo, admittedly i don't do as much server stuff likely, but still seems better
[06:17] <ejv> there's gotta be a fix
[06:17] <russell--> baby jesus cried a river
[06:17] <khaotik> oh my god unity smokes pole
[06:17] <andy_1> hi
[06:17] <superproxy> do you use a "/data" partition? how big, what filesystem type? how do you use it?
[06:17] <jaypro> i was planning to download ubuntu 11.04 netbook through torrents, but the link is broken. anyone know of another link?
[06:17] <bazhang> russell--, wrong channel
[06:17] <zachgretzinger> ubottu so if I create a partition with, say, 100gb and put everything in that, I'll be able to remove Natty completely and freshly install Maverick and then remove the partition when I'm done?
[06:17] <dirkh> ubuntu yeaaaa
[06:17] <tanath> khaotik, that's why there's "classic session"
[06:17] <khaotik> this is the worst environment i have ever used
[06:17] <extraclassic> ejv: i thought unity had the menu bar at the very top instead of in the app window
[06:17] <bazhang> khaotik, thats not appropriate here
[06:17] <eiriksvin> um how do i fix this: Ubuntu Software Center - The package indexes are currently changed by apt-get. it says i cant download anything cus theres something else working
[06:18] <ejv> extraclassic: beats the heck outta me, been using it for 15 minutes lol
[06:18] <xsinick_laptop> NATTY IS BULLSHIT!
[06:18] <ejv> extraclassic: you are correct!
[06:18] <mikeliss> anybody know how to reset the panel or the global menu? My seems to have crashed...
[06:18] <waterman> why?
[06:18] <bazhang> xsinick_laptop, stop that
[06:18] <zachgretzinger> eiriksvin are you using the terminal right now?
[06:18] <tanath> superproxy, ext4 is good
[06:18] <ejv> extraclassic: thx, nice find
[06:18] <extraclassic> ejv: they made it like a mac where they moved the menu up there
[06:18] <asiekierka> Okay, i'm in failsafeX
[06:18] <asiekierka> GDM booted without blinking
[06:18] <Ziber> With dual monitors, using compiz, I cant set it to use multiple independent cubes, can I?
[06:18] <asiekierka> but i STILL can't see the menu bars
[06:18] <sdegutis> yay!
[06:18] <asiekierka> what's going on!?
[06:18] <sdegutis> this is pretty sweet.
[06:18] <asiekierka> sdegutis 11.04?
[06:18] <zetheroo1> khaotik: you may not be alone in that sentiment, but make it useful and add something productive to the forums ;)
[06:18] <khaotik> i think im switching back to enlightenment
[06:18] <xsinick_laptop> sorry
[06:18] <S-M-Gl> .
[06:18] <waterman> is natty pretty buggy right now?
[06:18] <ejv> how do i make the unity bar auto-hide
[06:18] <xsinick_laptop> I feel better now
[06:18] <sdegutis> no, my irc client
[06:18] <asiekierka> waterman for propiertary driver users yes, especially nVidia
[06:18] <eiriksvin> yes, natty is buggy
[06:18] <khaotik> thats why im here. to each there own
[06:19] <sdegutis> you guys are awesome for testing since you talk so much :)
[06:19] <andy_1> hi, can anyone just confirm if they can chat in ##c++ ?
[06:19] <asiekierka> yes but i still have no idea how to restore the gnome menu bars
[06:19] <mikeliss> anybody know how to reset the panel or the global menu? Mine seems to have crashed...
[06:19] <waterman> thanks
[06:19] <asiekierka> also everything is so square now just as if a theme pack wasnt installed
[06:19] <zachgretzinger> ejv click on your name on the right hand corner of your screen and go to setting
[06:19] <eiriksvin> especially when switching from profile to profile,,,
[06:19] <vishal_> I'm part way through my distribution upgrade... if i change the source server, do i have to cancel and run the upgrade again?
[06:19] <yi`zhi> oooh. 11.04 is now installing.
[06:19] <zetheroo1>  waterman: it has been a very smooth upgrade for me
[06:19] <yi`zhi> wish me luck everyone haha
[06:19] <siloxid> andy_1: you have to register
[06:19] <asiekierka> this is a horrible upgrade for me
[06:19] <efox29> yi`zhi, you might need it
[06:19] <ejv> zachgretzinger: don't see 'setting'
[06:19] <yi`zhi> efox29, anything i should look out for?
[06:19] <tanath> asiekierka, dunno much about new release, but logging out and back in should work
[06:20] <siloxid> 11.04 is working so much better for me than 10.10, awesome!
[06:20] <yi`zhi> i can lose docky right?
[06:20] <andy_1> siloxid, /nickregister? doesnt work
[06:20]  * LW_Away is away: Gone away for now
[06:20] <red2kic> !register | andy_1
[06:20] <yi`zhi> also, anyone know of an easy way to switch language inputs?
[06:20] <bazhang> andy_1, /join #freenode
[06:20] <zachgretzinger> ejv sorry, I meant the power button next to your name
[06:20] <efox29> yi`zhi, i dont like unity, i feel my desktop is a phone now with all these 'apps'
[06:20] <ejv> !away | LW_Away
[06:20] <siloxid> andy_1: it's /msg nickserv identify yourpassword
[06:20] <rikrikthetik> so guys
[06:20] <efox29> and some of scripts no longer work
[06:20] <asiekierka> tanath i don't have access to any menu bars
[06:20] <zachgretzinger> ejv and it's "System Settings"
[06:20] <rikrikthetik> hows the 11.04?
[06:20] <asiekierka> and stop gdm/start gdm fails
[06:20] <vishal_> I'm part way through my distribution upgrade... if i change the source server, do i have to cancel and run the upgrade again? any ideas guys?
[06:20] <yi`zhi> efox29, you're talking about the aesthetics or the actual functionality?
[06:20] <rikrikthetik> do you like it/
[06:20] <asiekierka> oh wait a minute
[06:20] <rikrikthetik> ?**
[06:20] <bazhang> rikrikthetik, please dont poll here
[06:20] <tanath> vishal_, if you've downloaded the packages already then server doesn't matter. if not, i don't think you can unless you cancel first
[06:20] <Ziber> With dual monitors, using compiz, I cant set it to use multiple independent cubes, can I?
[06:20] <tanath> asiekierka, ctrl+alt+del?
[06:20] <rikrikthetik> poll?
[06:20] <eiriksvin> if ur having problems with not seeing ur bar i just logged off, then hopped back on
[06:21] <andy_1> all, thanks :D
[06:21] <asiekierka> nope
[06:21] <zachgretzinger> Ziber no
[06:21] <bazhang> rikrikthetik, yes. please dont
[06:21] <eiriksvin> cleaned it up
[06:21] <asiekierka> checking ctrl+alt+del
[06:21] <Ziber> :(
[06:21] <Ziber> defeats the purpose, imho
[06:21] <efox29> that was asthetics, for functionality, some of basic scripts dont work, but if i manually type them into terminal they work (i mean the actual command)
[06:21] <rikrikthetik> what does that mean?
[06:21] <bazhang> rikrikthetik, #ubuntu-offtopic for opinionating
[06:21] <efox29> entering in the incorrect root passwd sometimes makes my terminal hang
[06:21] <asiekierka> tanath hibernation, sleep, reboot, turn off
[06:21] <eiriksvin> i like classic a million times more
[06:21] <sdegutis> <3
[06:21] <siloxid> how do I get the battery charged number from the command-line?
[06:21] <efox29> restarting sometimes freezes...
[06:22] <asiekierka> eiriksvin i like how classic didn't have problems
[06:22] <tanath> asiekierka, how about ctrl+alt+l to lock screen? i think there's a logout on there
[06:22] <asiekierka> i mean
[06:22] <zachgretzinger> Ziber since not everybody uses dual monitors, it would be pointless to dedicate the hours and time required to enable such a feature. Especially for such a small group of people
[06:22] <asiekierka> 10.10
[06:22] <asiekierka> one moment
[06:22] <eiriksvin> yeah, 11.04 classic is clean as a whistle
[06:22] <yi`zhi> oop
[06:22] <asiekierka> ok, i got screen lock there
[06:22] <asiekierka> but the lock menu doesn't appear
[06:22] <asiekierka> just its desktop
[06:22] <xsinick_laptop> eiriksvin:  but stillhas bugs
[06:23] <asiekierka> i think like
[06:23] <siloxid> thanks google  :)
[06:23] <tanath> asiekierka, hrm? no log out?
[06:23] <asiekierka> half of Gnome broke up and i need to reinstall it
[06:23] <yi`zhi> anyway. anyone know a nice way to switch language inputs on narwhal? i use keyboard input methods on 10.10 i wonder if it'll carry over nicely
[06:23] <eiriksvin> heh, the only problem i had the first time i ran it was the clock... but even that fixed itself
[06:23] <ejv> ugh this is frustrating lol
[06:23] <asiekierka> tanath there's a change user option
[06:23] <asiekierka> i clicked it
[06:23] <eiriksvin> somehow
[06:23] <tanath> asiekierka, wait, you're on 10.10? if so, run 'gnome-panel --replace'
[06:23] <asiekierka> and now i'm at an empty dekstop
[06:23] <asiekierka> tanath i'm on 11.04
[06:23] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <asiekierka> upgraded from 10.10
[06:23] <eiriksvin> brb
[06:23] <tanath> asiekierka, then i dunno what shell thingy you're using or what the command is
[06:24] <efox29> if i modify my sudoers to enable a user to run a script without passwd, will that script run commands that typically only root can run ?
[06:24] <asiekierka> tanath i'm using the tty shells ubuntu gives
[06:24] <asiekierka> you know, Alt+F1-F4
[06:24] <asiekierka> i'm considering a reinstall
[06:24] <efox29> because right now, i can run the script, but the command within in the script still requires a root passwd...
[06:24] <S-M-Gl> .
[06:24] <asiekierka> but i'm not sure if i'm considering ubuntu :|
[06:24] <xsinick_laptop> poo
[06:24] <asiekierka> it was fun and easy, sure, but
[06:24] <tanath> asiekierka, virtual terminals?
[06:25] <asiekierka> tanath i think so, yes
[06:25] <tanath> asiekierka, so you're using irssi or something?
[06:25] <asiekierka> tanath yep, irssi
[06:25] <xsinick_laptop> natty poo head narwhal
[06:25] <asiekierka> notthe narwoah you expected
[06:25] <asiekierka> was it
[06:25] <xsinick_laptop> nope
[06:26] <asiekierka> i'm already in failsafeX
[06:26] <tanath> asiekierka, heh. fun. well a reboot is better than logging out.. if you don't have anything stopping you, ctrl+alt+del in VT will reboot
[06:26] <S-M-Gl> hello, im using am Adium theme with Empathy but it does not show the sender's name, any ideas on modifing it in order to show it?
[06:27] <vishal_> lol wow! this upgrade is gonna take a atleast several hours for me. :) I think I'm gonna postpone it.
[06:27] <vishal_> I'm just so excited to try out this new release...
[06:27] <efox29> vishal_, it took me like 4 hours ish
[06:27] <eiriksvin> is it cool to install the adobe flack plugins for ubuntu from the software center?
[06:27] <vishal_> efox29 was it worth it?
[06:27] <efox29> vishal_, no
[06:27] <efox29> lol
[06:27] <eiriksvin> oops flash
[06:27] <tanath> vishal_, if you change server, you don't have to redownload packages that have already downloaded
[06:28] <vishal_> lol efox29
[06:28] <eiriksvin> heh
[06:28] <tanath> vishal_, so  System > Admin > Software Sources > Download from, Other > Select best server
[06:28] <zachgretzinger> efox29 4 hours?!? It seriously took me less than 30 minutes lmao
[06:28] <extraclassic> eiriksvin: i wouldn't install anything from the software center
[06:28] <vishal_> tanath i did that... still slow.
[06:28] <Ziber> So, anyone have any advice about my internal laptop mic not working with 10.10?
[06:28] <vishal_> i live in hawaii... everything will be slow from here. :D
[06:28] <efox29> vishal_, i guess im just a bit disappointed that somethings broke along the way, and i had to fix them...whereas with other upgrades...no problems
[06:28] <zachgretzinger> Ziber update your drivers
 whys that?
[06:28] <vishal_> efox29 i see.
[06:28] <Ziber> zachgretzinger: How?
[06:29] <efox29> zachgretzinger, ya, the download took a while...it would fluctuate, i dont know if it was their servers or my connection, but id be hittin like 700kb/s then drop to like 6kb/s
[06:29] <vishal_> efox29 i have a webserver running ubuntu too... i'm glad i tried it on my laptop first...
[06:29] <zachgretzinger> System > Admin > look for something that looks like a green motherboard
[06:29] <tomtit> When will xubuntu 11.04 be available to download?
[06:29] <vishal_> tomtit isn't it available?
[06:29] <perscitus> How come there is no Canonical CDS in the store for 11.04?
[06:30] <extraclassic> eirisksvin: i'm not 100% sure, but i did read where it screws up registering dependencies if you need to remove stuff later
[06:30] <zachgretzinger> efox29 it might be their connection then (it is launch date after all)
[06:30] <tanath> zachgretzinger, the term is PCB. motherboard is the main board that other boards & stuff connects to
[06:30] <Ziber> zachgretzinger: Ah, thank you.
[06:30] <vishal_> tomtit oh, nvm... u said xubuntu...
[06:30] <tomtit> I haven't come across so far
[06:30] <zachgretzinger> tanath i was being user-friendly...
[06:30] <efox29> zachgretzinger, thats what i thought too....i guess you hopped in when everyone got fed up and cancelled
[06:30] <steven> god bless you all, good night <3
[06:30] <efox29> lol
[06:30] <ejv> desktop "effects" used to be in appearance menu, where did it go?
[06:30] <zachgretzinger> efox29 lol no I upgraded 2 days before the official release
[06:30] <ejv> i wanna turn all this garbage off
[06:31] <efox29> zachgretzinger, so even before ppl cancelled..lol
[06:31] <vishal_> i officially cancelled my upgrade. :D i mean officially postponed!
[06:31] <vishal_> feels like the right thing to do.
[06:31] <efox29> zachgretzinger, see...just like vishal_  :)
[06:31] <perscitus> How come there is no Canonical CDS in the store for 11.04?
[06:31] <russell--> "From my perspective, however, I think it's not only going to be a massive disaster for the existing user base, but I'm skeptical as to the value Unity will deliver in the first place."
[06:31] <silvery> Hi. Got a question about standalone station (not connected to internet). Can I upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 on this station using 11.04 CD, with no changes to installed software and files of existing 10.10?
[06:31] <tanath> russell--, what's the quote from?
[06:31] <S-M-Gl> hello, im using an Adium theme with Empathy but it does not show the sender's name, any ideas on modifying it in order to show it?
 oh, well it seems to be fine for me... i only install what i need... xchat and so on
[06:32] <ejv> people complained each time facebook changed its layout, then people adjust, adapt, and forget, unity will be similar i imagine
[06:32] <zachgretzinger> Guys, if you're unhappy with 11.04 you can either downgrade or wait for the next release (closer than you think it may be)
[06:33] <eiriksvin> and i gotta have my internet radio
[06:33] <C4colo> is 9.10 out of support for updates and patches?
[06:33] <extraclassic> eiriksvin: i just started using gpodder and it's pretty cool
[06:33] <zachgretzinger> Here is the release schedule: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidReleaseSchedule
[06:33] <tanath> C4colo, LTS gets 3yrs of support
[06:34] <tanath> C4colo, version numbers are based on release date, so no
 i saw that, it seems to be pretty cool
[06:34] <C4colo> yea, I was on 9.4 before I upgraded in the hopes https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/516049 was fixed
[06:34] <ACameron> Hi all.  The upgrade from 10.10 -> 11.04 really messed up my system and I would just love some help getting my computer to even reach the BIOS.
[06:34] <efox29> anyone know how to allow a script without root passwd
[06:34] <C4colo> or actually 8.4 originally
[06:34] <zachgretzinger> ACameron what exactly is wrong?
[06:34] <linusasus6> hi I will like to know why gnome and gnome-core is no longer supported
[06:34] <C4colo> have upgraded this far and no luck, so I'm not very confident the bug doesn't exist in 10.x versions
[06:34] <tanath> C4colo, why not use compiz or another WM?
[06:34] <thegoodcushion> Hi everyone.  I'm trying to print on a HP Deskjet from Ubuntu that is virtualized within VBox on Windows 7.  Is this the best channel to try and fix the problem?
[06:35] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: Given that my computer barely boots, I'm not sure how to answer that question.  How can I find out what you're asking?
[06:35] <C4colo> tanath, what is the lightest one?
[06:35] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I mean, I can't even reach GRUB to boot my Windows partititon.
[06:35] <ACameron> *partition
[06:35] <zachgretzinger> ACameron explain in detail what your computer is doing that it shouldn't be
[06:35] <C4colo> I DONT want pretty at the expense of performance
[06:35] <eiriksvin> im seriously thinking about getting my usb full of the stuff i need to get my USB wifi adapter working again, the going ahead and wiping out my unregged (f-ing viruses) Win 7
[06:35] <tanath> C4colo, well, the lightest ones typically wouldn't work the best with certain environments
[06:36] <teknowill> I can give you some help with hp printer vbox win 7
[06:36] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I turn it on, and the screens receive zero input.  Not even the screen that the BIOS puts out saying, "I'm booting up!" before I see GRUB.
[06:36] <ACameron> When I say it says "I'm booting up", I mean that figuratively.
[06:36] <stoja> this release is the end of Ubuntu :/
[06:36] <ACameron> It actually has the motherboard logo on it, and so on.
[06:36] <tanath> C4colo, i mean, if you want a lightweight environment you might go with icewm. if you just want the wm to use with a different environment there's ones like openbox fluxbox and blackbox
[06:36] <zachgretzinger> ACameron that happened to me as well... I simply restarted the computer a few times, ate a sandwhich, and voila - it went back to normal...
[06:36] <tanath> C4colo, then avoid compiz. not as lightweight as even metacity
[06:36] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I will cross my fingers.
[06:37] <Kyubey> Hey, I have a question about setting up compiz
[06:37] <mithran> hi guys, i want to try to install the x server on an ubuntu install, can someone tell me which iso i could have to use, that does not come with x,?
[06:37] <Kyubey> Which mouse button is the scrollwheel click?
[06:37] <nasuta> System:    Kernel 2.6.38.4-ck3.9.nasutix x86_64 (64 bit) Distro Windows 7
[06:37] <tanath> Kyubey, middle click?
[06:37] <nasuta> CPU:       Dual core Intel Core2 4400 (-MCP-) cache 2048 KB flags (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3) bmips 7981.22
[06:37] <nasuta>            Clock Speeds: (1) 1200.00 MHz (2) 1200.00 MHz
[06:37] <C4colo> I need a stable platform to use terminal windows and browser windows, supports multiple monitors and virtual desktops
[06:37] <Kyubey> I want to know so I can make it the shortcut to scaling\
[06:37] <nasuta> Graphics:  Card ATI RV710 [Radeon HD 4550] X.Org 1.9.5 Res: 1024x768@60.0hz, 1024x768@60.0hz
[06:37] <Kyubey> yeah, middle click
[06:37] <FloodBot3> nasuta: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:37] <nasuta>            GLX Renderer Mesa DRI R600 (RV710 9540) 20090101  TCL DRI2 GLX Version 2.1 Mesa 7.10.2 Direct Rendering Yes
[06:37] <nasuta> Audio:     Card-1 ATI RV710/730 driver HDA Intel BusID: 01:00.1
[06:37] <rikrikthetik> the
[06:37] <tanath> Kyubey, depress the scroll wheel
[06:37] <truepurple> I am at a stage in upgrading ubuntu where it is asking to remove some stuff. Any reason to give thought as to what it wants to remove? Why does it say "open office" stuff is no longer needed?
[06:37] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: Unfortunately, I have no sandwiches, and without a terminal I can't order my roommate to make me one.
[06:37] <tanath> Kyubey, can also be simulated with clicking both mouse buttons
[06:37] <red2kic> C4colo: Debian? It's always stable.
[06:37] <sundjinnkari> So anyone know how to customize the dash and the top bar?
[06:37] <Kyubey> tanath, I know how to click it -_-
[06:38] <ejv> truepurple: think ubuntu has moved to libre office
[06:38] <zachgretzinger> If the problem persists, try creating a bootable USB with Damn Small Linux or something and go in "magically" and grab your files then wipe the drive and start over. It may be a pain but in the end it's worth it
[06:38] <Kyubey> I dont know which button compiz sees it as
[06:38] <C4colo> metacity is not
[06:38] <Kyubey> for the purpose of using it as a shortcutg
[06:38] <thegoodcushion> Is anyone here a guru on printing from Ubuntu within VBox?  I have VBox 4.0.6 running Ubuntu 10.10 32-bit.  It's hosted on Windows 7 64-bit.  A Deskjet 2000 is plugged in via USB to the PC.  Windows drivers are installed.  Test printing from Windows works fine.  I have set up a USB filter for the printer and checked it 'on' and Ubuntu appears to know that it exists.  I print from within Ubuntu, and they all appear to complete
[06:38] <thegoodcushion> successfully, but nothing actually comes out of the printer.
[06:38] <tanath> C4colo, have a look at icewm and fluxbox/blackbox and see which you prefer
[06:38] <C4colo> ok, thank you
[06:38] <ejv> how do i enable metacity in unity?
[06:38] <tanath> Kyubey, then what are you asking? lol
[06:38] <Kyubey> I'm asking which number the button is for compiz shortcuts
[06:38] <tanath> Kyubey, oh
[06:39] <Kyubey> such as one, two, three, etc. :P
[06:39] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i can help a little
[06:39] <truepurple> ejv: So should I give it permission to remove it? Is it possible to allow it to remove some of this stuff, but not all?
[06:39] <C4colo> some have reported that pulling down the most current version of metacity and compiling it worked to fix the problem ... how often would metacity be pulled into the source?
[06:39] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: Any other ideas? multiple hard reboots have been unsuccessful so far.
[06:39] <numberto> My Unity search field does not work. When I type something I just does not find any file nor does it finds any app
[06:39] <linusasus6> is stupid no more menu on top bar  please why gnome and gnome-core are no longer support
[06:39] <Kyubey> I want to know so I dont accidentally undo the shortcuts for the right mouse button while trying to get this to work
[06:39] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: good
[06:39] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: do you have the usb 2 expanstion pack installed
[06:39] <numberto> Plus I cannot start launcher by using Alt+F2
[06:39] <zachgretzinger> ACameron how opposed are you to wiping your drive and trying a'new?
[06:39] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yep
[06:39] <C4colo> (I have been dealing with this issue for at least a year hoping every time I click "Install Updates" that it would be fixed)
[06:39] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: if I could boot, maybe I could wipe my drive...
[06:39] <ZenGuy311> how long can ubuntu keep their releases CD size?
[06:40] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: even though I really don't want to.
[06:40] <Kyubey> Is it two or three? I dont want to mess up the right mouse button's configurations
[06:40] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: I apologize if I get snarky; it's not you, it's my computer, and it's very late for me.  Please don't take it personally.
[06:40] <zachgretzinger> ACameron do you know how to make a Bootable USB?
[06:40] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: have you tired it with both usb 2 turned off and on
[06:40] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yep
[06:40] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: No, although I think I could manage a LiveCD.
[06:40] <tanath> Kyubey, i think it's 2 or 3... whichever right click is... it's the other
[06:41] <Kyubey> haha, tanath, that's the problem
[06:41] <Kyubey> I dont know if it's two or three
[06:41] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: although, again, not sure how I'm going to boot from it.
[06:41] <zachgretzinger> ACameron lol I'm a full German raised in NYC - I'll never take anything personal
[06:41] <tanath> Kyubey, test it? lol
[06:41] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: its fully dismounted from ubuntu and mounted in win7 box? sry so manys qs
[06:41] <Kyubey> and I dont want to screw up the settings for the right click doing this
[06:41] <tanath> Kyubey, only 2 options
[06:41] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: no problem
[06:41] <truepurple>  ejv: So should I give it permission to remove it? Is it possible to allow it to remove some of this stuff, but not all?
[06:41] <Kyubey> when I go to change either, it tells me other parts of compiz will be changed
[06:41] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Well it mounts in one or the other
[06:41] <Kyubey> fuck it, I'm trying 3
[06:41] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: Heh, sounds like some of my coworkers this summer.  Haven't met any of them yet, but they're german and working in NYC.
[06:41] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: k, you could share the printer via samba
[06:42] <Kyubey> err, sorry, darn it, I shouldn'
[06:42] <Kyubey> shouldn't swear here
[06:42] <sundjinnkari> So anyone know how to customize the dash and the top bar?
[06:42] <zachgretzinger> ACameron install Unetbootin
[06:42] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: The USB thing just isn't working.  I'm trying to share over Ethernet
[06:42] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: samba/cups
[06:42] <Chaoss> hey there, I've been trying to get my 2 NTFS hard drives to show up in Ubuntu for the last 19 hours
[06:42] <tanath> Kyubey, 2
[06:42] <ejv> 19 hours? ouch
[06:42] <ejv> that's dedication
[06:42] <ACameron> zachgretzinger: install it on.. my unbooting computer..?
[06:43] <zachgretzinger> ACameron it's a tool to create bootable usb devices. Try using Damn Small Linux as it's only 50mb and the install takes less than 5 minutes
[06:43] <ACameron> oh, I see
[06:43] <Chaoss> they appear in disk utility but i cant find them in explorer
[06:43] <Chaoss> or what ever its called in ubuntu
[06:43] <tanath> Kyubey, win+middle = zoom box in enhanced zoom. it's 3
[06:43] <zachgretzinger> ACameron install it on whatever computer you have that works
[06:43] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you should be able to share the usb printer over cups/samba to the vbox
[06:43] <C4colo> ok, thanks guys, I'm off
[06:43] <Kyubey> neither works
[06:43] <Kyubey> I just tried both
[06:43] <Kyubey> ohhh
[06:43] <ACameron> OK, so use Unetbootin to create a DSL bootable thumb drive?
[06:43] <Kyubey> I have to hold it
[06:43] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: what's messing up the share
[06:43] <Kyubey> durr -_-
[06:43] <FloodBot3> Kyubey: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:43] <tanath> Kyubey, woops, contradicted myself
[06:44] <tanath> Kyubey, button2 = middle
[06:44] <Chaoss> I dont get it they work in windows fine, and i can access them but in ubuntu it doesnt support more than 1 hard drive
[06:44] <Kyubey> yeah, just figured that out
[06:44] <pcgenius> hello i have only ubuntu installed on my system so when my system boots it doesn't shows the grub screen and i just want to go into recovery mode,so please tell me how can i do that ?
[06:44] <Kyubey> Now I have to figure out why graphical stuff is lagging
[06:44] <truepurple> ACameron: Net install is good too,(a option under unetbootin) very small, it downloads off the internet as it installsACameron
[06:44] <zachgretzinger> ACameron yeppers. Then use that USB to boot into your computer and throw your crap on an external and wipe the drive
[06:44] <tanath> pcgenius, what version?
[06:44] <Chaoss> i've so far managed to destroy 4 installations and break a keyboard
[06:44] <tanath> pcgenius, of ubuntu
[06:44] <pcgenius> tanath:11.04
[06:44] <Chaoss> im using the latest version from the website, can someone tell me what 2 do
[06:45] <Kyubey> is anyone else having lag problems?
[06:45] <ACameron> thanks zachgretzinger, truepurple.  I think I'm going to pass out for now and grapple with this some more in the morning.
[06:45] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Well the printer is mounted in Windows 7 and tests successfully.  I select it to print over network, and it has a name on the network.  Now I"m in Ubuntu.  How do I get Ubuntu to recognize the printer's there on the network?
[06:45] <tanath> pcgenius, ah. not familiar with it, but there's an app called startup manager you can use to configure delay and such
[06:45] <Kyubey> I'm running 64bit with nvidia graphics drivers
[06:45] <asiekierka> okay this is not helping
[06:45] <Kyubey> the beta didnt lag like this at all
[06:45] <zachgretzinger> ACameron np
[06:45] <ACameron> Looks like any plans of playing Portal 2 tonight will have to wait.
[06:45] <Chaoss> both 1TB hard drives are seen in disk manager, but there are no access to them
[06:45] <asiekierka> Looks like any plans of doing stuff today will have to wait
[06:45] <asiekierka> i'm considering changing distros :/
[06:45] <Chaoss> i dont see where to acceess
[06:45] <truepurple> Is there any way to selectively choose what programs that ubuntu is going to uninstall when updating?
[06:45] <tanath> pcgenius, package: startupmanager
[06:46] <asiekierka> tanath I believe 11.04's X installation ended up corrupted for me
[06:46] <silvery> how can I use 11.04 CD to upgrade standalo 10.10 with no harm to user files and installed software?
[06:46] <asiekierka> half the things barely installed
[06:46] <Chaoss> hmm i seem 2 be getting ignored
[06:46] <asiekierka> Chaoss so seem I
[06:46] <zachgretzinger> truepurple it shouldn't uninstall any programs when updating at all
[06:46] <ZenGuy311> asiekierka: did aq erlier release work?
[06:46] <asiekierka> I used 10.10
[06:46] <asiekierka> it worked perfectly
[06:46] <asiekierka> upgraded and now...
[06:46] <asiekierka> GDM blinks in normal mode
[06:46] <asiekierka> no menus visible in failsafeX
[06:46] <asiekierka> (or normal)
[06:46] <FloodBot3> asiekierka: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:46] <tanath> asiekierka, could wait a day for possible bugfixes and do a dist-upgrade from VT
[06:46] <asiekierka> lock screen is also buggy, buttons are square and look like themeless
[06:47] <asiekierka> tanath yeah
[06:47] <asiekierka> what's the command again?
[06:47] <Chaoss> ANYONE HERE KNOW HOW TO ACCESS BOTH OF MY HARD DRIVES, THEY ARE THERE IN DISK MANAGER BUT I CANT FIND THEM IN EXPLORER OR WHAT EVER ITS CALLED, I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR 19 HOURS
[06:47] <Chaoss> ANYONE HERE KNOW HOW TO ACCESS BOTH OF MY HARD DRIVES, THEY ARE THERE IN DISK MANAGER BUT I CANT FIND THEM IN EXPLORER OR WHAT EVER ITS CALLED, I'VE BEEN TRYING FOR 19 HOURS
[06:47] <asiekierka> Chaoss
[06:47] <extraclassic> haha
[06:47] <asiekierka> if you shout we're going to ignore you even more
[06:47] <asiekierka> look, a new version of Ubuntu ruined lifes of hundreds of peole
[06:47] <tanath> asiekierka, 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[06:47] <george2> hi
[06:47] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Its asking for permission to remove 76 "obsolete packages" right now.
[06:47] <pcgenius> hey what's the solution of that problem
[06:47] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: so your host is win 7 and guest ubuntu? you should "share" from host if possiable, otherwise you might have issuses.. one sec pls for the answer to q
[06:47] <pcgenius> can anyone please tell me
[06:47] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: ok
[06:47] <ZenGuy311> asiekierka: a new instalol instead of an upgrade would probably work better
[06:48] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: it currently works perfectly within Windows 7
[06:48] <Chaoss> well if im getting ignored im going to shout/spam
[06:48] <truepurple> Chaos: I have been in here for hours sometimes just trying to get someones attention, but I still never spam or shout
[06:48] <Chaoss> im sure you would
[06:48] <thegoodcushion> and I'm sharing it from Windows 7 on the network teknowill
[06:48] <george2> is there any gui tool to manage daemons, because bum and ckhconfig don't work with upstart
[06:48] <asiekierka> ZenGuy311 not with the thousands of packets i had installed
[06:48] <IdleOne> Chaoss: if you shout spam like that again you will be muted :)
[06:48] <helpmeplz> hey guys
[06:48] <pcgenius> hello i have only ubuntu installed on my system so when my system boots it doesn't shows the grub screen and i just want to go into recovery mode,so please tell me how can i do that ?
[06:48] <Chaoss> ok well does anyone know how to fix this problem
[06:48] <tanath> asiekierka, linux has nothing on windows :p
[06:48] <zachgretzinger> truepurple they are obsolete packages, not the programs themselves. You know on Windows when you download an .exe and install the program you still have the .exe somewhere? Same concept
[06:48] <pcgenius> i am using 11.04
[06:48] <itilious> why does ubuntu 11.04 menu controls disappear when i simply run "emerald --replace"?
[06:48] <Chaoss> or does linux not support more than 1 hard drive?
[06:48] <helpmeplz> have there been known issues with the wubi installer in 11.04?
[06:48] <bazhang> Chaoss, sudo blkid
[06:48] <tanath> pcgenius, did the app not work?
[06:49] <bazhang> Chaoss, put it in fstab
[06:49] <itilious> i'm doing exactly what i did with 10.04 and with 11.04 the menu controls/title/etc just go away, why?
[06:49] <bazhang> !fstab > Chaoss
[06:49] <pcgenius> tanath:i am sorry but that time i am disconnected can you please tell me again
[06:49] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: in unbuntu 10.04 top bar > system > administration > printing > network printer > windows printer via samba
[06:49] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I see in the list, "open office" in a number of places, that is going to uninstall open office, no?
[06:49] <Chaoss> how do i see private messages here?
[06:49] <Chaoss> ah i see
[06:49] <itilious> is 11.04 ubuntu desktop too "new" for emerald themes/manager to work with it?
[06:49] <tanath> pcgenius, package: startupmanager
[06:49] <zachgretzinger> truepurple no it is not going to uninstall anything
[06:49] <helpmeplz> can anyone please me help me with my wubi installation of ubuntu?
[06:49] <ZenGuy311> asiekierka: you ould backup  the list of installed packahes
[06:49] <silvery> how can I use 11.04 CD to upgrade standalone 10.10 with no harm to user files and installed software?
[06:50] <extraclassic> Chaoss: I think ubuntu mounts the drives in /media
[06:50] <bazhang> itilious, emerald is unmaintained and unsupported
[06:50] <tanath> pcgenius, lets you configure things like delay
[06:50] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: whats the problem?
[06:50] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: no printer shares found.  It says I should check my firewall configuration but I don't have Firewall under System->Administration
[06:50] <zachgretzinger> truepurple it's simply going to remove any unneccessary crap associated with the program before you installed it. Anything that will be removed you do not need
[06:50] <itilious> bazhang, is there an alternative?
[06:50] <bazhang> itilious, nope
[06:50] <Chaoss> I only see 1 drive (folder) thats my main drive
[06:50] <Chaoss> the other 2 are not there
[06:50] <helpmeplz> zenguy311, when rebooting after the wubi ubuntu install, I get the error that the "root partition is not defined"
[06:50] <bazhang> Chaoss, and the command I gave you to run?
[06:51] <helpmeplz> zenguy311. it doesn't complete the install
[06:51] <extraclassic> Chaoss: you need to figure out the device names of the other two using "fdisk -l" then mount them with fstab
[06:51] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Do I have to worry about anything suddenly becoming uncompatible with the newer ubuntu? For example, will I be able to download updates for battle for wesnoth like normal, even if they haven't made a version for 11.04 yet?
[06:51] <ZenGuy311> silvery: backup and do a distro upgrade , hope for the best
[06:51] <superproxy> how do I enable text mode in an ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64 cd installer, i need to test the cd's integrity
[06:51] <bazhang> truepurple, yes you will
[06:51] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: you need to reinstall grub from the ubuntui live cd
[06:51] <truepurple> bazhang: Is it easy to revert back?
[06:52] <Chaoss> ok whats the command, i have sdb1 and sdc1
[06:52] <itilious> why is it that it seems every "upgrade" is usually a downgrade in features with ubuntu?
[06:52] <zachgretzinger> truepurple some programs (as of now, mostly only temporarily) will not update in Natty right now. Don't worry though, updates will soon become compatible with Natty
[06:52] <bazhang> truepurple, no, full reinstall needed
[06:52] <Chaoss> and sda1 but thats already working
[06:52] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: windows 7 dose and it makes a different how the network setting are set for vbox, set the vbox net interface to bridge so it has a ip in your network
[06:52] <bazhang> itilious, this is not channel for that
[06:52] <itilious> less features, less customability, less etc etc etc
[06:52] <polatov> hi to all
[06:52] <zachgretzinger> truepurple but you still can use all of your programs
[06:52] <bazhang> !ot > itilious
[06:52] <pcgenius> tanath:but with the use of startup manager app we can work only if the ubuntu is running but one of my system is not able to boot ubuntu due to broken package,so when i boot my system only blank screen comes so i need to step into recovery mode from their
[06:52] <helpmeplz> zenguy311, but wouldn't that corrupt my windows mbr?
[06:52] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: So perhaps update them before updating ubuntu?
[06:52] <polatov> hi move dash to right side?
[06:52] <polatov> how move dash to right side?
[06:52] <Chaoss> what do i have to type in to get them to work
[06:53] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: can you still boot into windows and reinstall wubi
[06:53] <zachgretzinger> truepurple yes, do a quick sudo apt-get update before upgrading
[06:53] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you might need to give the host ip in manually even then
[06:53] <extraclassic> itilious: people are in #ubuntu-offtopic complaining right now...it's pretty funny
[06:53] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: How do I set the VBox newtwork to bridge?
[06:53] <zachgretzinger> truepurple before you upgrade though I would suggest install Natty on either a CD or USB and testing it out a bit. That way you won't have wasted your time if you do not like Natty
[06:53] <tanath> pcgenius, tap esc while booting. it should prevent it from going past the menu
[06:53] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: With the update screen at "do you wish to remove these packages" will that still work? Or will I have trouble because the update is midstream?
[06:53] <helpmeplz> zenguy311: yes, im on my windows installation right now. I could uninstall and reinstall ubuntu wubi for a 3rd time via the program manager
[06:54] <Chaoss> i could be here another 19 hours, tried fstab mount /dev/sdb1 and unknown command
[06:54] <pcgenius> tanath:ok thanks dude
[06:54] <tanath> pcgenius, once you get it working you may want to add a delay for future
[06:54] <zachgretzinger> truepurple just make sure before you update that the terminal is doing nothing
[06:54] <Chaoss> would have though after these years they'd have made a way to support more than 1 HD
[06:54] <yi`zhi> noob question but if i buy a mac book pro, i could just install ubuntu over it and it'll work fine right? any issues regarding that?
[06:54] <pcgenius> anyways congratulation to ubuntu team and community for the awesome release 11.04
[06:55] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I'm about ready to install Ubuntu as dual-boot instead of virtualized
[06:55] <zachgretzinger> yi zhi go right ahead. I don't know why on earth you'd buy a macbook fashionaccessorypro though...
[06:55] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: no .. just complete the windows install
[06:55] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: on the lower right of vm window should be an icon for network card if not: shutdown the guest, and under its settings should be something about the network card in there will be a drop down
[06:55] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:55] <doodle> Hello, I have problem with installing 11.04. I chose a drive of 45 GB as mounted in /dos with FAT32 file system, but I cannout see that drive now. How can I see that drive in my computer and use? I can use and see that on Windows though.
[06:55] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Are there drawbacks for 11.04 then? Besides the new quick link stuff, anything else I will appreciate with 11.04? Its alot quicker?
[06:56] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: it's not just a selction in the settings not too complex, but understand the fustration
[06:56] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:56] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311: How do I complete the install inside windows? I thought the install would complete itself after it'd ask to reboot.
[06:56] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I have changed it from NAT to Bridged Adapter.  Is that what I need?
[06:56] <yi`zhi> zachgretzinger, that's pretty much it. i just like the design haha
[06:56] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: yep!
[06:56] <Chaoss> looking at the fstab page says i need to set up a server
[06:56] <Chaoss> i dont have the money to buy a server at the moment
[06:56] <ZenGuy311> at the reboot it should have
[06:56] <zachgretzinger> truepurple just keep in mind that 11.04 (Natty) is a BIG change from what you're used to. A lot of people don't like Natty because they haven't immediately gotten used to it
[06:57] <Chaoss> and i dont have the knowledge to compile a new linux distro that supports more than 1 hard drive
[06:57] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Like what?
[06:57] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: And for Name, do I select the real NIC or the VirtualBox Host-Only thing?
[06:57] <philipballew> my computer wont update to 11.04 when i type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade  && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[06:57] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I am a linux newbie, I am still getting use to linux in general
[06:57] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:57] <superproxy> how do i enable text mode in a graphical natty amd64 installer, i need to check the cd's integrity
[06:57] <Maddogm> you dont have to use unity if you dont want to
[06:57] <tanath> philipballew, the apt-get upgrade in there is wasteful
[06:58] <zachgretzinger> yi zhi honestly, design should be the last thing to look for when buying a computer... I work on both PC and Mac at work and most of the Mac's are actually inferior to the PC's
[06:58] <helpmeplz> zenguy311, well at the reboot it tried to complete the install but it failed saying that the root partition wasn't defined
[06:58] <Chaoss> what do i have to type into terminal to get the hard drives working, they are sdb1 and sdc1 both are ntfs?
[06:58] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: you'll have to reinstall wubi to be sucsessful
[06:58] <philipballew> tanath how can i update to 11.04 then?
[06:58] <ejv> Chaoss: all linux distros support multiple hard drives, why don't you start by: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[06:58] <ejv> Chaoss: then: sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit
[06:58] <tanath> philipballew, that should work. but you didn't state the problem
[06:58] <taglass> Chaoss: I was just about to type something up to explain it, but thought to myself "Why reward that behavior"
[06:58] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i think the real one
[06:59] <zachgretzinger> truepurple go to youtube and type in Natty and watch a few of the videos
[06:59] <ejv> also...
[06:59] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311, Well I've just been using the step by step that's on the DVD. What's the better way of going about this?
[06:59] <ejv> !patience | Chaoss
[06:59] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: hard to picture in my mind sry
[06:59] <philipballew> when i attempt to run the comand it just updates my system and tells me no updates are avaible
[06:59] <Chaoss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600596/
[06:59] <bazhang> ejv, I dont think he has pastebinit installed
[06:59] <ejv> bazhang: i told him to install it
[06:59] <tanath> philipballew, try with the update manager
[06:59] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: could you see inet pages befoer in the box?
[06:59] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: A utube video isn't going to tell me much
[06:59] <bazhang> ejv, nicely done I missed that
[06:59] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: i'vew only done a wubi install about 3 years ago, but wubi should be safe for new users
[07:00] <zachgretzinger> truepurple there are reviews on Natty where virtually everything is covered. pro's, con's, etc
[07:00] <ejv> bazhang: ;)
[07:00] <philipballew> im updating my server over ssh
[07:00] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: okay I selected the real adapter and now my SMB Browser sees Workgroup and Richard-Windows, which I presume is something from the Windows 7 machine appearing in Ubuntu
[07:00] <ejv> Chaoss: ok so what have you tried, what errors are you getting?
[07:00] <tanath> zachgretzinger, apostrophes aren't used for plurals
[07:00] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: sounds right
[07:00] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I tried running the get update program, but I got alot of errors about unavailable resources
[07:00] <Chaoss> i tried to install pysdm but i cant find it
[07:00] <Maddogm> is there a way to pre-download a dist-upgrade?
[07:01] <doodle> Hellow everyone, (reposting) I have problem with installing 11.04. I chose a drive of 45 GB as mounted in /dos with FAT32 file system, but I cannout see that drive now. How can I see that drive in my computer and use? I can use and see that on Windows though.
[07:01] <Chaoss> and i have spent time looking for it
[07:01] <siloxid> in gnome I changed my mouse settings but these aren't observed when I log in with a different wm.  how do I keep the mouse settings?
[07:01] <ejv> Chaoss: what's pysdm ?
[07:01] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311: okay. Well I'll try and do some research then. It's a shame they have to make it so exhausting to figure out.
[07:01] <ejv> Chaoss: i thought you were trying to mount your NTFS partitions...
[07:01] <Chaoss> i am
[07:01] <soreau> How can I get rid of this mail icon on my panel? 'ps ax|grep evolution' shows nothing of this sort is running
[07:01] <Chaoss> it said it would help me out but its done nothing
[07:01] <linusasus6> is gnome-shell, gnome-desktop, gnome-core and gnome packages will be supported on the 11.10 because they no longer seem to be supported in 11.04
[07:01] <ZenGuy311> helpmeplz: ok good luck
[07:01] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I figured out what the problem is, and I'll tell you
[07:01] <deneb> hello...how can i install gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04?  any link on web to explain? it has many ways and i'm confused what is right
[07:01] <helpmeplz> ZenGuy311: Thanks for the help
[07:01] <zachgretzinger> tanath I apologize, oh great grammar Nazi *bows head*
[07:02] <tanath> philipballew, actually, someone said upgrading is borked right now. should try later
[07:02] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I originally had no password for my Windows 7 user account.  But Ubuntu won't log onto the workgroup without a password.  You must have a password or it won't log into the workgroup.
[07:02] <ejv> Chaoss: i would: sudo mkdir /mnt/mydrive && mount /dev/sdaX /mnt/mydrive
[07:02] <taglass>  Maddogm apt-get -d dist-upgrade
[07:02] <ZenGuy311> Hellie: k but wish i could have been more useful
[07:02] <tanath> zachgretzinger, way to make assumptions. i don't know if you know better or care or not. for all i know english isn't your first language and you'd appreciate the correction
[07:02] <Chaoss> only root can do that
[07:03] <ejv> Chaoss: you can't use sudo? is this your machine?
[07:03] <zachgretzinger> tanath, English is actually my 3rd language...
[07:03] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you could make a dummyuser or you can put a password on the administrator account that is default to all win boxes
[07:03] <Chaoss> thats what it says, i've never understood that error
[07:03] <Chaoss> sudo works sometimes
[07:03] <ejv> Chaoss: it should work ALL the time, it will prompt you for your password you provided during installation.
[07:03] <tanath> zachgretzinger, care less the more languages you learn? :p
[07:03] <truepurple>  zachgretzinger: I tried running the get update program, but I got alot of errors about unavailable resources
[07:03] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: It's looking better but same thing is happening.  I've printed a test page twice, and both times Ubuntu claims it was successful but nothing has come out of my printer
[07:03] <Chaoss> yeh i put that in correctly
[07:04] <ejv> Chaoss: ok so what happened?
[07:04] <Chaoss> now when i try again it just says cannot create directory
[07:04] <deneb> hello...how can i install gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04?  any link on web to explain? it has many ways and i'm confused what is right
[07:04] <tanath> deneb, wouldn't recommend it
[07:04] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I tried running the get update program, but I got alot of errors about unavailable resources
[07:04] <zachgretzinger> tanath as long as people understand what I mean, it really doesn't matter to me.
[07:04] <ejv> Chaoss: mount | pastebinit
[07:04] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: ubuntu support annoymous, but win 7 has this homegroup thing, if you have that on it makes working with non win7 pcs hard
[07:04] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I reckon I'll install Natty as a dual-boot and stop all this virtualization rubbish.  It causes more problems than it solves.
[07:04] <tanath> deneb, if it doesn't work, you can't safely downgrade
[07:04] <deneb> tanath: why doesn't work?
[07:04] <Chaoss> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600598/
[07:04] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i guess, but this is a fixable problem
[07:05] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: in theory, yes
[07:05] <zachgretzinger> truepurple that doesn't matter for now, you still got the updates you need. Did you see "404" a lot?
[07:05] <tanath> zachgretzinger, spelling and grammar are important. misuse them and they can be misleading
[07:05] <ejv> Chaoss: use my name when sending me information: example: ejv: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600598/
[07:05] <mbrochh> just updated to 11.04... how do i activate the new desktop? everything still looks the same as it did before the update
[07:05] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Well the printer is right there on the printing configuration page.  It appears to know that the printer exists.  But nothing comes out of the printer.
[07:05] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Not a single 404
[07:05] <Starminn> mbrochh: Did you log out?
[07:05] <tanath> zachgretzinger, many miscommunications occur without either party being aware..
[07:05] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: And no, I didn't get any updates
[07:06] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: The command didn't work
[07:06] <mbrochh> Starminn, I restarted several times?
[07:06] <doodle> bazhang: Can you help please? I need to help with patitioning. I chose a drive of 45 GB as mounted in /dos with FAT32 file system, but I cannout see that drive now. How can I see that drive in my computer and use? I can use and see that on Windows though.
[07:06] <tanath> deneb, it apparently hasn't worked for some people
[07:06] <ejv> Chaoss: mount shows that your sda2 ntfs partition is already mounted under /media/ folder; the command i sent you earlier, i indicated */dev/sdaX* where X is a number YOU substitute... did you do that?
[07:06] <doodle> !repost
[07:06] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: if you want as well, you can have ubuntu print to pdf file as printer insead of direct and just save them to a shared dir
[07:06] <doodle> Sorry, typo. :S
[07:07] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: that's more trouble than it's worth
[07:07] <zachgretzinger> tanath I'm 20, give me a break!! Spanish was my first language, followed by German. You can see how English may be a little complicated with all of it's rediculous rules
[07:07] <Chaoss> yeh i did
[07:07] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: and just print in win... k just a side thought... but I think the troulbe is win7 home group crap
[07:07] <djazz> when I start a terminal, it dont appear in the launcher (11.04) :/
[07:07] <Chaoss> it just says "Only root can do that"
[07:07] <deneb> tanath: i tried recently with ppa and then install gnome-shell and it didn't have the right theme (not the adwaita but an older look like)
[07:07] <Chaoss> which i assume means it cant do it for some reason
[07:07] <ejv> tanath / zachgretzinger, enough, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic or ignore eachother, thx ;)
[07:07] <soreau> How can I get rid of this mail icon on my panel? 'ps ax|grep evolution' shows nothing of this sort is running
[07:07] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Honestly I reckon I'll install Linux on the metal.  VBox has caused me nothing but trouble and it doesn't do me much good
[07:07] <tanath> zachgretzinger, don't think i've been hard on  you...
[07:07] <deneb> tanath: is that the problem?
[07:08] <zachgretzinger> truepurple press ALT+F2 and type in the following "sudo apt-get update"
[07:08] <taglass> doodle: try sudo blkid to find the partition and then sudo mount sdwhatever /dos where sdwhatever is the nae you got from blkid
[07:08] <tanath> deneb, what problem?
[07:08] <ejv> Chaoss: if you used sudo, and put in your password correctly, the mount operation should succeed.
[07:08] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: ALT F2 doesn't do anything
[07:08] <zachgretzinger> tanath: Correction: Don't think I've been hard on you.
[07:08] <Chaoss> ok
[07:08] <Chaoss> i see no password entry
[07:08] <Chaoss> just the message again
[07:09] <ejv> Chaoss: double check your `fdisk -l` listing, to make sure it corresponds to your devices you're trying to mount.
[07:09] <zachgretzinger> truepurple then manually open the terminal and type the following: "sudo apt-get update"
[07:09] <deneb> tanath: i tried recently with ppa and then install gnome-shell and it didn't have the right theme (not the adwaita but an older look like)
[07:09] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: only when you trun off home group can any pc access a share without password... you would have this problem on any non win 7 metal box trying to connect over ethernet, just so you know
[07:09] <Chaoss> yeh that works it shows me that information
[07:09] <thegoodcushion> Okay, everyone.  I love Ubuntu 10.10 and I haven't yet upgraded to 11.04.  I'm a bit dubious about Unity though.  Should I stick with 10.10, learn to live with Unity, run 11.04 with GNOME, or switch to another distro?
[07:09] <djazz> 11.04 launcher is bugged :/
[07:09] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Ok, I got alt F2 to work, apparently it only works with the left alt. But as I said, that command doesn't work, it gives me that error when I do that
[07:10] <Chaoss> i put my password in and it showed me, but when i try the command thats suppose dto work, it does not so
[07:10] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: but usb on bare will work, non vm has it's problems as well, but speed will be better
[07:10] <Chaoss> is there no way to brute force access the drives?
[07:10] <ejv> Chaoss: ok, then using the format: `sudo mount <device> <target>` is the next step, where target can be in /mnt/ or /media/ typically.
[07:10] <tanath> zachgretzinger, my grammar was correct, and the lack of caps doesn't make it unclear. and when chatting lack of caps is common and informal
[07:10] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yeah
[07:10] <zachgretzinger> truepurple so absolutely NOTHING happens? You don't see 99% a million times?
[07:10] <taglass> thegoodcushion: only you can answer that question
[07:10] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: It gives me those errors I mentioned about unavailable resources and such
[07:11] <tanath> anyway, gotta run. good luck peopel
[07:11] <AnonymousGuy> hey just downloaded and installed ubuntu 11.04 having an issue with the update manager though, http://pastebin.com/fty5AXwu
[07:11] <tanath> *people
[07:11] <zachgretzinger> truepurple that doesn't mean everything didn't update
[07:11] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: The errors I mentioned earlier that you said I should not mind
[07:11] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i think though, if you turn off or remove your win 7 pc from home group and reshare the printer to "everyone" ubuntu will take it
[07:11] <Chaoss> ok i see sdb
[07:11] <Chaoss> its worked sort of
[07:11] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: I never got to a screen to choose any updates, nor did I see any download progress or install activity
[07:11] <arooni-mobile> hey folks ; trying to get sun-java6-jre on my ubuntu 10.04 laptop;  ubuntu * Says* its installed; but when i do: LilArooni sudo update-alternatives --config java;;; i dont see anything on sun java
[07:11] <Chaoss> i dont see my drive information there
[07:12] <zachgretzinger> truepurple were you in the terminal
[07:12] <djazz> anyone else using 11.04 have trouble with launcher?
[07:12] <Chaoss> just a few files (Boot, System volume information, bootmgr etc)
[07:12] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I might try that
[07:12] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: When I type that command in terminal, all it does is give me those errors
[07:12] <truepurple> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:12] <truepurple> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:13] <truepurple> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[07:13] <bazhang> truepurple, close other instances of apt
[07:13] <ejv> Chaoss: your data may or may not reside in another partition on your device, use `fdisk -l` to locate relevant partitions where your data is likely to be stored.
[07:13] <truepurple> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[07:13] <Chaoss> the folder is only 73Mb free too
[07:13] <Chaoss> ok
[07:13] <doodle> taglass: I see nothing.
[07:13] <ejv> !paste | truepurple
[07:13] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: ok, well good luck with either route, i'll check/scroll back in a bit if you decide to give it more time
[07:13] <doodle> taglass: it does not give any output.
[07:13] <zachgretzinger> tanath beschweren sich über Grammatik an jemand anderen
[07:13] <truepurple> bazhang: apt? what is that?
[07:13] <eiriksvin> brb
[07:14] <ejv> AnonymousGuy: please check https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs to see if such an issue has been reported. if not, file it for us. :-)
[07:14] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: mate I'm fed up and I'm looking for a distro to install on the metal
[07:14] <taglass> doodle: "sudo blkid" gives no output?
[07:14] <djazz> :/
[07:14] <doodle> taglass: it does.
[07:14] <zachgretzinger> truepurple type in the command again and copy all of the output into a text file and save it on your desktop
[07:14] <djazz> anyone using 11.04?
[07:14] <ejv> djazz: of course
[07:14] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: I've have good luck with 10.04, I wouldn't go 11 yet
[07:14] <zachgretzinger> djazz me
[07:14] <taglass> is there a line that says anything about fat or ntfs?
[07:14] <Chaoss> mount: unknown filesystem type 'promise_fasttrack_raid_member'
[07:14] <djazz> anyone have trouble with launcher?
[07:14] <doodle> taglass: but I have no name for that partion so I tried sudo blkid UUID /dos
[07:14] <ejv> djazz: be more specific.
[07:15] <Chaoss> aha i know the problem, ubuntu doesnt support ntfs
[07:15] <doodle> taglass: that gives no output.
[07:15] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: problem is that if Ubuntu stays with this Unity crap, I reckon I might abandon Ubuntu
[07:15] <zachgretzinger> djazz by trouble, do you mean trouble getting used to it
[07:15] <djazz> terminal doesnt show up, wine programs are combined in one wine "app"
[07:15] <ejv> Chaoss: you mean you haven't loaded support for it? why didn't you say so?
[07:15] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Why?
[07:15] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: had good luck with opensuse 11.3, 11.4 kde eats too much cpu
[07:15] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: No, I want GNOME
[07:15] <zachgretzinger> truepurple because I think you're misunderstanding something but would like to be sure
[07:15] <linusasus6> linuxmint
[07:16] <Chaoss> it seems odd because it can access my main windows hard drive (i have one Solid state drive, and 2 1TB hard drives)
[07:16] <Maddogm> thegoodcushion, you can login using "Ubuntu Classic"  and get the current (previous) gui
[07:16] <Chaoss> i can seethe solid state drive and the windows folders n stuff
[07:16] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: But how does putting it in a text file on my desktop help you do that?
[07:16] <taglass> doodle: can you post the output of sudo blkid to a pastebin?
[07:16] <doodle> taglass: okay.
[07:16] <ejv> Chaoss: i think i've hit my limit in terms of support i can provide for that issue, attempt to setup ntfs support, there's a wealth of documentation online about the process.
[07:16] <Chaoss> but the other 2 hard drives are totally 101% inaccessible from ubuntu i've tried so much for so long
[07:16] <zachgretzinger> truepurple because once you do it and tell me you did it I'm going to have you email it to me and I'm going to read it
[07:16] <Chaoss> and it always says 1 error, or some other cryptic message
[07:17] <ejv> !enter > Chaoss
[07:17] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: well debian is a pain if you want none approved progs and out of box flash didn't work... fedora is good but again you need to get codeces....
[07:17] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: How about a pastebin or a PM instead? Less work, and anyway, why put it into a text file to email it to you?
[07:17] <Vustom> When I startup my computer (Which is using Windows and Ubuntu side-by-side, Windows being installed first) theres an option to press F11 which goes into System Recovery, this worked before when I just had Windows by itself, but I want to do another reformat because of the new Ubuntu, how can I fix this?
[07:17] <gh0st> what's the deal with remote desktop viewer?
[07:17] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Well Debian doesn't have GNOME 3.  I think I prefer debian-based distros
[07:17] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Its like 4 lines anyway
[07:17] <ejv> gh0st: be much more specific.
[07:17] <zachgretzinger> truepurple however you want, just give me the output of the terminal once you type in sudo apt-get update
[07:18] <gh0st> I'm trying to connect to my win7 machine and get "connection closed: connection to host ip was closed."
[07:18] <taglass> thegoodcushion: I believe it's in experimental
[07:18] <doodle> taglass: here: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5ve2jLCb
[07:18] <taglass> thegoodcushion: gnome3 that is
[07:18] <Chaoss> ubuntu is experminetal lol
[07:18] <ZykoticK9> taglass, that's what i told thegoodcushion in #debian
[07:18] <truepurple> zachgretzinger: Do you see that PM I sent you?
[07:18] <Starminn> Vustom: You want to reformat your whole hard drive or just overwrite Ubuntu?
[07:18] <doodle> taglass: the /dev/sda11: UUID="065C-DB02" TYPE="vfat" is the problem.
[07:18] <djazz> ejv: http://i.imgur.com/f3kjd.jpg
[07:18] <taglass> ok
[07:18] <Vustom> Whole hard drive
[07:18] <Starminn> Vustom: (By the way, long time no see! I hope Ubuntu has been treating you well!)
[07:18] <Vustom> It's awesome. ;3
[07:18] <ejv> Chaoss: the recent release 11.04 is, you may want to try 10.04 LTS for something more stable
[07:19] <thegoodcushion> taglass: no wait I meant GNOME 2
[07:19] <Vustom> Excited for Unity, at first I was like eh, but it looks cool. :D
[07:19] <thegoodcushion> my bad
[07:19] <Starminn> Vustom: I'd say just open up GParted from a LiveCD and wipe it all.
[07:19] <Chaoss> in ubuntu where do you access "system"
[07:19] <taglass> doodle: type this sudo mount -tvfat /dev/sda11 /dos
[07:19] <zachgretzinger> truepurple yes, I replied
[07:19] <ejv> djazz: ?
[07:19] <Chaoss> it used to be on the top bar but its vanished
[07:19] <Starminn> Vustom: I'm excited for Gnome3 but it looks like I'll have to wait for 11.10 for that one.
[07:19] <Vustom> But theres another HDD in there, and it has the system covery for Windows Vista on it..
[07:19] <djazz> ejv, i was more specific
[07:19] <djazz> :P
[07:19] <Starminn> Vustom: What does your hard drive setup look like?
[07:20] <Chaoss> can someone help me locate this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pysdm-graphical-storage-device-manager.html
[07:20] <Vustom> HP (HDD)
[07:20] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: well i mean as far as they go i'd go best experiances were unbunt 10.04 for desktops and debian no-gui for servers
[07:20] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, don't hold your breath.  Ubuntu isn't going to use Gnome...
[07:20] <doodle> taglass: I got this: mount: /dev/sda11 already mounted or /dos busy mount: according to mtab, /dev/sda11 is already mounted on /dos
[07:20] <Chaoss> i've instlled it but cant find it ANYWHERE what so ever
[07:20] <Vustom> FACTORY_IMAGE (HDD)
[07:20] <ejv> djazz: ahh the launcher issue you mentioned, not sure i understand from the picture, let me look again
[07:20] <djazz> look at terminal..
[07:20] <Vustom> the factory image is on the same HDD i think.
[07:20] <djazz> Why does Empathy open links in firefox when I have set chrome as default?
[07:20] <greg> Hi anyone like the new "Unity" thing?
[07:20] <Vustom> so i can't wipe it all, then i'll have no windows :/
[07:20] <taglass> doodle: then it's a;ready mounted..  your data should be accessible in /dos
[07:20] <Starminn> ZykoticK9: I know, but hopefully Gnome3 will be able to run in 11.10. OTherwise, they'll be pulling a proprietary move by restricint g what you can/can't use in whicih case I'll drop them like a bad habit.
[07:20] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you might be able to use a different x server in ubuntu if you dont like unity
[07:20] <ejv> looks normal djazz
[07:21] <djazz> ejv, do you see terminal in launcher?
[07:21] <doodle> taglass: but I want it under /media
[07:21] <ZykoticK9> Starminn, i've personally moved to Debian because of Unity
[07:21] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: yeah you can login using GNOME.  My only concern is that ubuntu will move away from GNOME
[07:21] <ejv> djazz: on mine, yes, not in yours
[07:21] <Starminn> Vustom: You said you wanted to reformat everything, not just Ubuntu, but you want to keep Windows? Explain on one line what you want to do. Is it just dual boot of Ubuntu and Windows?
[07:21] <djazz> I cant drag and drop it from dash to launcher either
[07:21] <Chaoss> i give up with this peice of shit system., cant even put extra hard drives in
[07:22] <veronica> hi
[07:22] <bazhang> Chaoss, no cursing
[07:22] <doodle> taglass: also I see nothing in /dos
[07:22] <veronica> channel spanish?
[07:22] <Starminn> !spanish | veronica
[07:22] <taglass> doodle: ohok gotcha.  sudo umount /dos && sudo mkdir /media/dos && sudo mount -tvfat /dev/sda11 /media/dos
[07:22] <bazhang> veronica, #ubuntu-es
[07:22] <elad> hi
[07:22] <hesamak> iij
[07:22] <veronica> thx ^^
[07:22] <punto> hi.. I'm mounting a remote nfs export, but the files on the remote machine belong to uuid 501 and I want to modify them with uuid 1000. can I remap the uuid when I mount? (am I expected to have the same /etc/passwd on both machies?)
[07:22] <elad> im having a hard time installing 11.04 on my dell m1330
[07:22] <elad> can anyone help me???
[07:23] <ejv> rome wasn't built in a day... understanding linux doesn't happen over night either... *sigh*
[07:23] <Vustom> I can't wipe the hole HDD because the factory default of Windows Vista is on the same HDD, I need to be able to enter the System Recovery application when I start up my computer, it normally works with F11 and goes straight into it, but with Ubuntu side by side with Windows; that selection of what OS just shows up.
[07:23] <taglass> doodle: you might have to edit /etc/fstab as well.  just change /dos to /media/dos
[07:23] <zachgretzinger> elad what is wrong
[07:23] <djazz> why do I see chatroom chat posts twice in empathy?
[07:23] <avij> ipv6.torrent.ubuntu.com seems to complain that the "requested download is not authorized for use with this tracker" when downloading the various ubuntu-11.04-*.iso files. could someone please authorize the ubuntu isos to that ipv6 tracker?
[07:23] <elad> zach, im running windows 7 and im trying to dual boot
[07:23] <Cr3al> the new launcher is confusing as hell. is there a way to edit it at all?
[07:23] <zachgretzinger> djazz because empathy sucks
[07:23] <Vustom> I still have the option to press F11 on the start up screen, but doesn't work.
[07:23] <ejv> im taking a break, you guys wear me out lol, good luck newcomers.
[07:23] <djazz> yeah...
[07:24] <Vustom> like i said, just goes straight to the OS selection
[07:24] <elad> but every time, i get an error in the middle of the install
[07:24] <zachgretzinger> elad type in my whole name or I can't see that you mentioned me
[07:24] <Cr3al> such as moving the order of the applications
[07:24] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: well you could always add it later, i'm sure there would be a  ubuntu distro with a none unity if they do, i mean they have a kubunu now so I bet they would doa gubuntu
[07:24] <pipou> where does the ubuntu upgrade need 1.5 GB or so of disk space? I can't do that on / but can somewhere else
[07:24] <djazz> guess I must reboot to fix the launcher... :(
[07:24] <Starminn> Vustom: F11 is a Windows-only option I think. So, since it's only in Windows, have you tried booting into Windows and trying ti then while the Windows thing is going?
[07:24] <elad> zachgretzinger im trying to dual boot with windows 7 64 bit, but i keep on getting an error halfway though the install...
[07:25] <heroprimeremix> how do i extract as root?
[07:25] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, with sudo?
[07:25] <halpbatman> hey guys I removed my linux partition and now I get "error: no such partition" how do I restore windows 7 bootloader?
[07:25] <Cr3al> it wont even let me edit the gnome panels anymore
[07:25] <Vustom> I've tried pressing F11, then selecting Windows Vista on the OS selection, but just goes to the Windows log-in screen like normal
[07:25] <helloEARTH> how can i access the startup applications in 11.04?
[07:25] <thegoodcushion> I wish there were a perfect Linux distro so I don't have to choose
[07:25] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, are u using the gui or console?
[07:25] <ohsix> Cr3al: the thing at the top with unity is not a panel
[07:25] <zachgretzinger> elad what is the error
[07:26] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: I say as long as it still has what you want stay with it, till it doesn't i'm sure a lot of people will want they anther solution will come around if they do drop it
[07:26] <heroprimeremix> like how do i even start? (i know to use sudo, but how do i even begin to extract through terminal??)
[07:26] <Starminn> Vustom: No, I mean select Windows, then press F11
[07:26] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Yeah there's a fear of the unknown for me too
[07:26] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: don't forget name almost missed your im
[07:26] <Vustom> o.
[07:26] <ohsix> Cr3al: it looks sort of like it,  but the panels are gone; if you want them then you probably also want the classic session, which you can pick from the login screen
[07:26] <Vustom> look; http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?r=18738354#r18738354
[07:26] <Vustom> D:
[07:26] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, if you have a zip file then unzip if its tar.gz then use tar such as tar -xvzf xyz.tar.gz
[07:26] <taglass> halpbatman: boot up from your windows 7 dvd, enter the recovery console and type bootsect /nt60 and then sys /mbr
[07:26] <Cr3al> i just want to move the workspace switcher to a more practical place
[07:27] <elad> zachgretzinger, im not sure. but it asks me to report it... i chose the partition & everything seems to be running smoothly then it stops. do you think i should try the 64 bit version?
[07:27] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, if it is a zip file then its sudo unzip xyz.zip
[07:27] <halpbatman> taglass: is there a way to fix this without the dvd?
[07:27] <taglass> halpbatman: that might be one command instead of two, not sure.  I just have it wrote on a postit note for helping other people.  I don't use windows :)
[07:27] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, try man unzip or man tar for more information
[07:27] <Vustom> "But as stated, the F11 is gone, because when you installed Ubuntu, GRUB overwrote the MBR section where the F11 is launched. You learned a hard lesson :(" -.-'
[07:27] <heroprimeremix> it is a tar.gz
[07:27] <zachgretzinger> elad try the 64 bit version
[07:27] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: is party why i went with lts so I have a chance to adapt and or somehting that will come can come out have a few years with this one till it's a "problem"
[07:27] <taglass> halpbatman: no clue.  If there is, I bet google knows.
[07:28] <silvery> When use CD, i don't have 'Upgrade Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04' option in installation options, any suggestions?
[07:28] <elad> zachgretzinger, will do... i dont know how its relevant though. my xp was 64 bit & i ran 10.10 just fine
[07:28] <aetaric> erm ok so
[07:28] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, then its sudo tar -xvzf filename.tar.gz
[07:28] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I can't even get 10.10 from the ubuntu website!
[07:28] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: it gives me 11.04 or 10.04
[07:28] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, it will unzip in the current directory
[07:28] <Starminn> Vustom: Alright, so if it's included in the Windows bootloader then just reinstall Windows, as that overwrites all Linux.
[07:29] <heroprimeremix> I was wondering because i upgraded to 11.04 and my cursor won't  change....
[07:29] <Starminn> silvery: Are you using a 11.04 disc?
[07:29] <aetaric> just upgraded to 11.04, i have a NVidia Geforce 8600M and I can't use unity any ideas?
[07:29] <Vustom> O.O
[07:29] <Vustom> I can't access the System Recovery though..
[07:29] <lanoxx> heroprimeremix, you can add -t to see what will be extracted
[07:29] <silvery> Starminn : yes
[07:29] <elad> thegoodsushion, if you really want 10.10, search filestube. i downloaded a copy today
[07:29] <elad> zachgretzinger, thanks for you help
[07:29] <silvery> it gives me 3 other options and not this one...
[07:30] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: i had bad luck with 10.10... and they only seable diff from 10.04 is it's libra office by defult and the rythmbox thing is "cooler"
[07:30] <Robert__> hey how do i get tthat little window that runs programs
[07:30] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I don't care about office or rhythmbox
[07:30] <doodle> taglass: I can't unmount now with right click, it says, "umount: only root can unmount /dev/sda11 from /media/dos"
[07:30] <thegoodcushion> I'm coding
[07:30] <zachgretzinger> elad np
[07:30] <froggi> !
[07:30] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: I mean I'm using gcc, clang, nano, make.  So arguably I don't need the latest version of anything
[07:30] <zachgretzinger> elad you ran 10.10 fine?
[07:30] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: then go with 10.04
[07:31] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: you can upgade kernal after
[07:31] <zachgretzinger> elad was it 64 bit 10.10? Also, are you trying to upgrade to Natty?
[07:31] <taglass> doodle: that's correct.  you could always unmount it as root and then use nautilus to mount the drive.  That soundslike what you want.
[07:31] <Starminn> Vustom: Contact HP, I'd say they have a recovery thing. That, or like Dell they may have a partition for recovery.
[07:31] <Vustom> Chat timed out, missed what you said.
[07:32] <doodle> taglass: actually, no. I want it like other direves. easy to mount and unmount
[07:32] <heroprimeremix> So...in 11.04, how would i change my cursor theme?
[07:32] <Vustom> Starminn: I typed sudo fdisk -l into terminal and two parts of my HP HDD came up, /dev/sda2           59465       60801    10739452+   7  HPFS/NTFS and /dev/sda1   *           1       34786   279415295+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[07:32] <doodle> taglass: and I tried to formate it in NTFS.
[07:32] <ruan> need urgent help. i just did a 'partial upgrade' and now i cant log into any GNOME environment.
[07:32] <ruan> it fails
[07:32] <Vustom> I have 2 different options to boot into Vista at the OS selection, never tried sda2 though, and the factory image is like 10GB, is that it?
[07:32] <silvery> Can be the problem that I have 64x 10.10 and 32x 11.04?
[07:32] <Vustom> should i try booting into sda2?
[07:33] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: if you really want 10.10 i can get you a torrent link...
[07:33] <Vustom> Theres also 3 more..
[07:33] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: No, I'm downloading 10.04
[07:33] <ruan> ok im going to install kde now
[07:33] <Vustom> -.-
[07:33] <amit> when installed ubuntu 11.04 it is saying that my hardware doesnot have support of unity?why it is saying and what are the basic requirements for it?
[07:33] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: As I said I don't need the bleeding edge version of anything, so it's about familiarity and avoiding Unity
[07:33] <taglass> doodle: I'm not sure.  Sorry I don't have a better answer.
[07:33] <ruan> amit: you can still boot into ubuntu classic
[07:33] <heroprimeremix> ruan: Reinstall and try a erase drive option
[07:33] <Vustom> i'll try boot into sda2, if no luck i'll come back, thanks :D
[07:34] <thegoodcushion> teknowill: Anyway thanks for trying to help me.  You're a good sport.
[07:34] <extraclassic> amit: you need 3d accelleration for graphics
[07:34] <amit> ruan: but i want to use unity
[07:34] <Starminn> Vustom: Again, I'd say contact HP. They'd know their HDD setup better than us.
[07:34] <ruan> heroprimeremix: impossible for me to do that, i have no cdrom and i cant boot with a usb
[07:34] <doodle> taglass: okay, thanks!
[07:34] <amit> extraclassic: i have nvidia gforce 9400
[07:34] <ruan> brb screen
[07:34] <teknowill> thegoodcushion: ok, no problem good luck
[07:34] <Vustom> I'll just get some asian guy that can't even speak english. D:
[07:34] <extraclassic> amit: it might work if you install proprietary drivers for your video card, because nouveau won't work
[07:34] <Cr3al> how do you add applications to the launcher menu?
[07:34] <Vustom> brb
[07:34] <amit> extraclassic:is classic using gnome
[07:35] <ytaews> I can't get Natty to boot at all, can't even get the live CD to initiate the installer. I go through BIOS POST, get a message about ISOLINUX and then black screen. Is there anything I can do to try and diagnose?
[07:35] <extraclassic> amit: 'apt-get install nvidia nvidia-utils, then reboot'
[07:35] <amit> ok
[07:35] <heroprimeremix> ruan: Find a computer, download 11.04, Burn to a cd or DVD. Simple
[07:35] <lgp171188> Hi, I have installed Natty and want to use Classic Gnome as the default instead of having to select it every time before login. How to do it?
[07:35] <atharva> I am unable to install virtualbox 4.0.6 .pl help
[07:35] <atharva> atharva@atharva-Vostro-1400:~$ sudo '/home/atharva/Extra'\''s/VirtualBox-4.0.0-69151-Linux_x86.run'
[07:35] <atharva> [sudo] password for atharva:
[07:35] <atharva> Verifying archive integrity... All good.
[07:35] <atharva> Uncompressing VirtualBox for Linux installation..........
[07:35] <atharva> eval: 1: Syntax error: Unterminated quoted string
[07:35] <FloodBot3> atharva: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <Scarra3> Is the 11.04 search bar suppose to take up the whole screen?
[07:35] <extraclassic> amit: classic won't be the same as the old gnome
[07:36] <amit> extraclassic:it is saying unable to locate package nvidia
classic is based on which ?
[07:36] <extraclassic> amit: I probably don't have the name right then...you need nvidia's proprietary drivers though
[07:36] <heroprimeremix> How would i get my cursor to work in 11.04?
[07:36] <heroprimeremix> It won't change
[07:36] <ZykoticK9> amit, i've never heard of either nvidia or nvidia-utils (but i'm not using 11.04)
[07:37] <Braiam> extraclassic: lgp171188 is the guy
[07:37] <extraclassic> Braiam: who's that
[07:37] <MJBrune> I have a Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) sound chipset and I want to know if my mic will work in linux. will it?
[07:37] <Braiam> lgp171188: classic won't be the same as the old gnome, thanks to extraclassic
[07:37] <taglass> ytaews: did the md5sum of your download match the posted checksums?  If so try burning your cd at a slower speed
[07:37] <amit> i think ubuntu 10.10 is better at this time
[07:38] <yi`zhi> OOOH i'm about to restart!
[07:38] <lgp171188> Braiam: Ok, how do I change the default?
[07:38] <yi`zhi> this is so exciting
[07:38] <MJBrune> anyone?!
[07:38] <Braiam> lgp171188: ask to extraclassic
[07:38] <Ziber> How can I show duplicate songs in Rythm box?
[07:38] <taglass> MJBrune: I see no reason why it wouldnt
[07:39] <doodle> taglass: most probably I made this error in installation, I want to re-install, what should I select there (after deleting and reassigning) to mount in /media, I see only 2 options there /dos and /windows
[07:39] <Logan_> !please | MJBrune
[07:39] <Braiam> lgp171188: im on 10.10
[07:39] <extraclassic> why, I don't know what I'm talking about half the time
[07:39] <MJBrune> Logan_: the channel is already unreadable.
[07:39] <lgp171188> extraclassic: How do I change the default desktop environment in natty?
[07:39] <MJBrune> taglass: because the drivers are shit?
[07:39] <MJBrune> ugh morons
[07:39] <aetaric> once again, 11.04 unity won't start on supported card
[07:40] <taglass> doodle: I don't think you need to assign a mountpoint at all
[07:40] <extraclassic> lgp171188: don't know...I'm not using it
[07:40] <doodle> taglass: then it says, your drive will be unused!
[07:40] <ytaews> taglass: Yeah, the MD5 matched. I've spent all day burning new discs, making USBs and then I tried going back to lucid, then upgrading to maverick then to natty. Still get a black screen every time I boot.
[07:40] <doodle> taglass: shoul I ignore that message and go fo installation?
[07:40] <taglass> doodle: that's fine.  you should still be able to click on it in nautilus and easily mount/unmount it
[07:40] <Logan_> lgp171188: run the command gdmsetup in a terminal
[07:41] <Spaz_Dynamic> having an issue running a java jar archive. I get http://pastebin.com/6BkDrMPN when I "java -jar /path/of/file.jar"
[07:41] <Logan_> lgp171188: then, in that window, hit the Unlock button, put in your password, and then you can change the default environemnt
[07:41] <taglass> ytaews: that's not good and it sounds like you've alraedy tried any advice I might have to offer.
[07:41] <doodle> taglass: okay, will do, thanks!
[07:41] <Spaz_Dynamic> and as you can see from the last couple lines, it's minecraft >.> So it should be working, its not like I made it and it isn't working. xD
[07:42] <lgp171188> Logan_: I didn't realize the option would in gdmsetup. Let me try it out. Thanks :)
[07:42] <Logan_> lgp171188: no problem :)
[07:42] <linusasus6> have a good nite I hope you got lot of cofee because everyone will need help on natty because Unity
[07:42] <damno> I cant set eth1 as default for ntop
[07:42] <ytaews> taglass: Alright, thanks for the help, I guess it's back to Maverick for now.
[07:43] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: are you using the sun jre?
[07:43] <lgp171188> linusasus6: It is not as if unity is so buggy but it is due to people so used to traditional Gnome :)
[07:43] <damno> I cant set eth1 as default for ntop. any help?
[07:43] <Spaz_Dynamic> think so. either way, I was about to run it out of the box on 10.10, though I did do a fresh install for 11.04
[07:44] <Spaz_Dynamic> fresh including /home
[07:44] <Flynsarmy> Are you able to upload to ubuntu one from the terminal?
[07:44] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: java -fullversion
[07:44] <Logan_> !ubuntuone | Flynsarmy
[07:45] <Spaz_Dynamic> taglass: 1.6.2_22-b22
[07:45] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: although with a fresh install you should be runnin openjdk I believe
[07:45] <aetaric> hello everyone i'm on 11.04 and unity won't start on supported card
[07:46] <amit> aetaric: 11.04 is fake :)
[07:46] <Spaz_Dynamic> ..oh, wait, just noticed I am in #ubuntu... I am technically running kubuntu... >.>
[07:46] <Spaz_Dynamic> <.<
[07:46] <amit> ?
[07:46] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: yeah hmm I dunno man.  It should work.  You could always try sun java
[07:47] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: probably better for minecraft anyways.
[07:47] <ror> my PC completely froze about 12 hours into do-dist-upgrade D:
[07:47] <Spaz_Dynamic> taglass: probably. is Sun java in the repos, or do I need to get it from them direct?
[07:47] <taglass> Spaz_Dynamic: It should be in the repos if you enable the partners repo
[07:48] <Spaz_Dynamic> taglass: alright, thanks.
[07:48] <Logan_> !java | Spaz_Dynamic
[07:48] <Scarra3> Is the ubuntu 11.04 search box suppose to take up the whole screen
[07:48] <deneb> ok..i installed gnome 3 on ubuntu 11.04 . everything's ok except the auto login......could anyone tell me how to fix the auto login? thanks
[07:48] <Logan_> Ooh, that factoid needs to be updated.
[07:48] <Logan_> deneb: The Gnome 3 PPA is not supported here.
[07:49] <Logan_> (if I'm not mistaken)
[07:49] <mello> is it recommended to throw away unity & install gnome-shell? Or does it not work optimal on natty?
[07:49] <CodeWar> thank God I m not th eonly one thinking about throwing away unity
[07:49] <mello> rofl
[07:50] <Scarra3> Is the ubuntu 11.04 search box suppose to take up the whole screen
[07:50] <Logan_> mello: No need to install - just choose the Ubuntu Classic environment at login.
[07:50] <Logan_> !repeat | Scarra3
[07:50] <yi`zhi> wooo
[07:50] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> hello, all. Now, I'm using debian 6.0. But I want to try ubuntu11.04. How can I install it from my hard disk?
[07:50] <mello> Logan_ that would just give me gnome 2, with gnome-shell I mean gnome 3
[07:50] <taglass> Scarra3: probably depends upon the size of yoru monitor.  Ity doesn't fill a 24"
[07:50] <Logan_> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa: Download the ISO and burn it to a CD
[07:50] <Logan_> !gnome3 | mello
[07:50] <Logan_> *DVD
[07:50] <Scarra3> taglass: its a laptop
[07:51] <talntid> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, double click "install ubuntu 11.04" under "distros" menu.
[07:51] <mello> ubottu thanks
[07:51] <yi`zhi> how do i make it so that i'm asked for a password every time i sudo?
[07:51] <yi`zhi> that seems to have been gone when i restarted into 11
[07:51] <thegoodcushion> So where do I get help for 10.04?  Is that here also?
[07:51] <Logan_> !lucid | thegoodcushion
[07:51] <taglass> mello: I wouldn't honestly at this point gnome-shell and unity both feel incomplete and neither seems to have the upper hand in functionality.
[07:51] <Scarra3> taglass: The screen size is 1366 x 768
[07:51] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> Logan_: No, I don't have a cd-rw
[07:51] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: Yes but is this the right channel for help with it?
[07:52] <silvery> I have 10.10 and 11.04 CD both 32x. I want to upgrade my 10.10 with this CD and don't have 'Upgrade Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04' option when run CD. Any suggestions?
[07:52] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: Yes - it is supported until... (let me check)
[07:52] <deneb> Logan_: what do you mean? not the right channel for gnome 3 - ubuntu?
[07:52] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: 3 years for the desktop
[07:52] <mello> taglass: I agree to some degree.. except that I can still do my work in gnome3, whilst unity is making that impossible.
[07:52] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: yeah :P
[07:52] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> talntid: How? where to click?
[07:52] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: Well I'm about to install it baby
[07:52] <talntid> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, on the left side. :)
[07:52] <ZykoticK9> silvery, you can only use the Alternative CD for upgrade, NOT LiveCDs
[07:52] <talntid> gnight all.
[07:52] <mello> taglass: if i want to be productive i'd better just get another distro..
[07:53] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: April 2013 for the LTS
[07:53] <thegoodcushion> Logan_: yep
[07:53] <Logan_> deneb: it's a third-party, unsupported PPA
[07:53] <narf_> Are you guys enjoying this new look and feel, because i kind of think its the most buggy piece of software I have seen in some time.
[07:53] <ZykoticK9> mello, debian is an option...
[07:53] <Logan_> !ot | narf_
[07:53] <ror> what's happened to the system > preferences menu? I can't find it now :(
[07:53] <taglass> mello: you could always just use gnome classic for this dev cycle and hope gnome3/unity are better later this year.
[07:53] <lgp171188> Hi, there was an issue with Nvidia proprietary drivers and plymouth in older releases. Doesn't seem to be fully fixed in natty either. On selecting Ubuntu in grub, there appears a purple screen for some time, then a low resolution plymouth screen appears for a second and then a black screen before gdm appears. Any way to fix/workaround this annoying bug?
[07:53] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> talntid: But I'm using debian now. I have only a alternate iso for ubuntu11.04. I think I have to boot from this iso to install it.
[07:54] <thegoodcushion> narf_: Are you talking about Unity?
[07:54] <silvery> ZykoticK9 : Sorry but where i can get this Alternative CD and is it official too?
[07:54] <deneb> Logan_: yes but i have a problem and i want to solve it and i need help....where i can get this help?
[07:54] <Phil_Shapiro> Can I ask a question that you all must have heard a million times already?
[07:54] <Logan_> !alternate | silvery
[07:54] <narf_> thegoodcushion, i'm natty and the default launcher it uses...
[07:54] <Logan_> deneb: probably irc.gnome.org #gnome3
[07:54] <silvery> thank you, everyone!
[07:54] <thegoodcushion> Imagine if all the Linux developers spent all their time working on the one distro?  All that effort put into one distro, Linux would really be something
[07:54] <Logan_> thegoodcushion: it's good to have variety
[07:55] <taglass> thegoodcushion: It would probably suck.. competition is good :)
[07:55] <Spaz_Dynamic> hrm, are double quotes ( " ) valid characters for in directory names?
[07:55] <aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa> Could somebody give me some links or some suggestions about install ubuntu alternate iso from hard disk under debian?
[07:55] <mello> ZykoticK9: i wouldn't choose debian as a desktop env
[07:55] <lgp171188> mello: Gnome shell and unity aren't as mature and hence aren't as customizable as Gnome 2.x. So for now I am sticking to gnome 2.x waiting for gnome-shell/unity to mature a lot more and become fully customizable as gnome 2.x
[07:55] <ZykoticK9> thegoodcushion, you don't understand linux.  Choice is a good thing.
[07:55] <FFIF> #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:56] <ror> the new interface is horrible D: it does that "mac" thing of having all the application menus in a separate bar, but most annoyingly I can't seem to move the launcher panel to the top? What's with not being able to create as many panels as one wishes?
[07:56] <lgp171188> mello: you have a choice to use gnome 2.x without having to install anything extra
[07:56] <ZykoticK9> mello, good thing there are lots of options out there ;)  see above ^^
[07:56] <mello> lgp171188 what should i choose if im sick of gnome2 atm (its getting boring) & i don't want kde? (or give me one good reason for kde)
[07:56] <Logan_> mello: XFCE?
[07:56] <thegoodcushion> The one thing I didn't like about debian was hte icons
[07:56] <elad> zachgretzinger, the 64 bit didnt work... im getting the following error...The installer encountered an error copying files to the hard disk:  [Errno 5] Input/output error  This is often due to a faulty CD/DVD disk or drive, or a faulty hard disk. It may help to clean the CD/DVD, to burn the CD/DVD at a lower speed, to clean the CD/DVD drive lens (cleaning kits are often available from electronics suppliers), to check whether the hard disk
[07:56] <taglass> mello: ratpoison
[07:56] <mello> Logan_ this would be achieved just with apt-get install xfce4? But im not sure if this installs the last version 4.8
[07:56] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: Funny. You don't like the icons. CHANGE THEM.
[07:56] <thebigham> How do you install ubuntu 11.04 to unallocated space?
[07:56] <lgp171188> mello: then go for gnome-shell or try out different environments like xfce/lxde
[07:57] <joako> Is it possible to install Ubuntu inside VMWare ESXi? I am getting an error it cant mount the CDROM
[07:57] <ZykoticK9> red2kic, that's way too complicated ;)
[07:57] <lgp171188> mello: or KDE
[07:57] <Logan_> mello: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[07:57] <red2kic> ZykoticK9: For Gnome 3?
[07:57] <ZykoticK9> red2kic, i'm just joking
[07:57] <elad> zachgretzinger, by the way, im installing from a usb, but when i tried to install from a cd, i get the same error
[07:57] <solofight> people i wanted a ftp server so installed ftpd using apt-get, now how do i check whether its running or not ?
[07:57] <Logan_> !vmware | joako
[07:57] <neo_> who was installed 11.04?
[07:57] <Braiam> elad: try reburning the CD
[07:58] <Logan_> joako: /join #vmware for support
[07:58] <solofight> /etc/init.d/ does not contain an entry for ftp
[07:58] <solofight> people i wanted a ftp server so installed ftpd using apt-get, now how do i check whether its running or not ?
[07:58] <Phil_Shapiro> Has anyone here managed to get Ubuntu to network with windows 7?
[07:58] <red2kic> ZykoticK9: Ooo -- But it is complicated! (Especially if you make your own!)
[07:58] <solofight> help please
[07:58] <zachgretzinger> That's really strange
[07:58] <zachgretzinger> pm me
[07:58] <mello> lgp171188 let me google lxde
[07:58] <elad> braiam, i tried, and i tried the 64 bit version too
[07:58] <zachgretzinger> elad pm me
[07:58] <solofight> Phil_Shapiro, using samba ?
[07:58] <shrys> Will upgrading to Natty from Maverick affect any of my installed applications ?
[07:58] <Logan_> mello: Lubuntu is a distro with LXDE based on Ubuntu, but it's not officially supported by Canonical
[07:58] <Braiam> elad: check the memory
[07:58] <red2kic> mello: awesome, dwn, e17
[07:58] <Logan_> shrys: it shouldn't, unless the devs haven't provided newer versions for natty
[07:59] <Phil_Shapiro> Solo: I installed it, but I'm stuck in the PW authentication loop
[07:59] <elad> braiam, what do you mean?
[07:59] <lgp171188> mello: http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Ubuntu hth :-)
[07:59] <thebigham> How can I install ubuntu 11.04 to unallocated space dualboot with win7?
[07:59] <vega> is it really so that natty ships with a stone-age lirc (0.8.7) that is NOT compatible with nattys lirc kernel drivers?
[07:59] <Braiam> elad: in the ubuntu cd boot is a option to check the memory
[07:59] <mello> lgp171188: thanks. i might install xfce for now and tweak it.. i just want something that is not counterproductive
[08:00] <lgp171188> mello: hmmm, go ahead try things and use the one that suits you :)
[08:00] <elad> braiam, oh at boot?
[08:00] <sltPoison> Hello
[08:00] <Braiam> elad: sorry, yes this is what I mean
[08:01] <sltPoison> When trying to insall ubuntu 11.04 it hangs right as I press FORWARD at the first prompt screen
[08:01] <elad> braiam, and what should this tell me, exactly? im sorry, im very new to this.
[08:01] <taglass> solofight: netstat -ltp should tell you if anything is listening on the ftp port.
[08:01] <lo0m> hi, has anyone succesfully migrated from virtualbox to HDD? using dd? ubuntu 10.10 btw
[08:02] <paul> hi
[08:02] <Braiam> elad: depending of the size of your memory it take a while analizing, if it found errors then you should brougt another
[08:02] <Grimdin> 11.04 problem, i dont use unity, so i use classic but my desktop visual effect are all missing, howto re-enable them?
[08:03] <econnell> lo0m: it's doable, but it's incredibly difficult
[08:03] <lo0m> Grimdin: i believe unity can be switched off in Compiz settings..
[08:03] <paul> can I sudo-apt get dropbearkey some how?
[08:03] <elad> braiam, ill check it now & let you know in a few minutes. thanks
[08:03] <Braiam> elad: if everything is OK then is the hard drive
[08:03] <Magnusson> can someone help me figure out what i need to do to fix make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/lib/libX11.so', needed by `lib/liboxygentransparentstyle.so.4.6.0'.  Stop.?
[08:03] <Grimdin> lo0m, i have switched unity off, but there is not visual effects in classic mode...
[08:03] <Logan_> Grimdin: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[08:04] <Logan_> Grimdin: That will let you change all the visual effects in Ubuntu Classic
[08:04] <ZeiP> I upgraded to 11.04, and after reboot my computer doesn't launch Xorg. It shows all the boot messages (though it shouldn't), the last message being "Starting uptime daemon: uptimed"
[08:04] <Logan_> (and Unity, for that matteR)
[08:04] <sltPoison> had do you change the styles?
[08:04] <Logan_> *matter
[08:04] <joako> Logan_: No. I install VMWare ESXi Hypervisor on the server, then I create a virtual machine to which I want to install Ubuntu
[08:04] <Grimdin> Logan_, i have installed it, and it says enabled lots of things, but nothing seems to be happening
[08:04] <elad> braiam, it cant be the HD. its only ubuntu that gives me an error, Kubuntu installed perfectly
[08:04] <Robert__> the update manager is not letting me upgrade
[08:05] <Scarra3> should I install the ATI drivers or just stick with the ones that comes with 11.04?
[08:05] <joako> When I boot the Ubuntu CD inside the virtual machine I get the message "(initramfs) mount: mounting /dev/loop0 on //filesystem.squashfs failed:
[08:05] <Phil_Shapiro> solofight: my W7 network shows up on my Ubuntu 10.10 netbook, but it won't let me log in. I'm sure you've heard of this prob before
[08:05] <Braiam> elad: the HD can have corrupted sectors on the part that you try to install ubuntu
[08:05] <lo0m> econnell: what about a fresh install? then dd ? or migrate only /home ? i don't want to lose all settings (home dotfiles) and hooks in /var/www
[08:05] <Robert__> i need help upgrading
[08:05] <mello> Scarra3 install ati driver on your own risk! it depends on your computer..
[08:06] <elad> braiam, i wiped the partition 30 minutes ago...
[08:06] <mello> Scarra3 on my pc when using ATI driver, compositing doesn't work anymore, which is a key feature used in unity compiz
[08:06] <mello> Scarra3 in other words: it might be that your compiz is screwed
[08:06] <econnell> lo0m: if windows is already on the machine, ubuntu's installer should recommend a resize
[08:06] <Scarra3> Its a sony vaio and my graphics card is an ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4250
[08:07] <Grimdin> mello, i have same problems on nvidia driver (latest version)
[08:07] <deeeed> hi
[08:07] <Grimdin> compositing does not work
[08:07] <mello> Scarra3: I have ATI mobility Radeon HD 3650; I would recommend just trying. Go back if something feels sloppy for you
[08:07] <Robert__> hate to be a bother but im having some trouble upgrading
[08:07] <econnell> if you want to create a vm from the disk, that's a whole different matter... and the process varies based on your virtualization solution
[08:07] <joako> How can I download .torrent of ubutntu? I think the HTTP download is corrupt
[08:07] <mello> Grimdin: good to know; i thought this problem only existed with ATI
[08:07] <Braiam> elad: there're another cause, your CD are all broken or your cd-w was defect
[08:08] <Braiam> has*
[08:08] <mello> joako: get a torrent program like vuze, transmission µtorrent, and download it.
[08:08] <jooseyjoose> if i had a huge csv file is there a way to split it up into sections?
[08:08] <Grimdin> mello, is there bug open already?
[08:08] <Obamanation> anyone know of an applet similar to "CPU Graph" that works on 11.04?
[08:08] <paul> I've made a huge big mess of all my public/private keys, if I want to start all over, is it safe to just deleve ~/.ssh ?
[08:08] <deeeed> do you know about compatibility for installating ubuntu on a macbook pro ?
[08:08] <Braiam> mello: utorrent? closed-source?
[08:08] <mello> Grimdin: i don't have a clue.. i had this problem before, not just on natty. I think it is a driver related problem
[08:08] <red2kic> !torrents | joako
[08:08] <deeeed> do you know if the drivers support all the hardware ?
[08:08] <elad> braiam, my CD? im booting off a USB
[08:08] <mello> Braiam: I am suggesting it because he might be on windows, and that program is easier
[08:08] <Blue1> paul: why not just rename the directory first, then start over.
[08:09] <lo0m> econnell: i'll propably just trash Win7 and do a fresh 11.04 install, use this VM there and setup everything by hand.. thx anyway
[08:09] <Scarra3> How do I stop my computer from locking after a certain amount of time?
[08:09] <nicklo> Is there an explanation as to what the mac version ubuntu-11.04-desktop-amd64+mac.iso is?
[08:09] <paul> Blue1: clever, thank you
[08:09] <Braiam> mello: ok then
[08:09] <Blue1> paul: always have a path back, to the way it was, before you messed it up.
[08:09] <econnell> lo0m: if it matters.. that's what i did
[08:09] <joako> mello, No insults but is this the n00b channel?
[08:09] <Obamanation> lo0m: have you considered dual boot?
[08:09] <mello> Braiam: hence why it was my last suggestion.
[08:09] <taglass> jooseyjoose: man split
[08:09] <keruom_> hi, I a but confused with linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless packages. I need to have at least 2.6.37-2.6.32-31-generic, where the 2.6.37 is important
[08:09] <jooseyjoose> thanks taglass !
[08:09] <Obamanation> anyone know of an applet similar to "CPU Graph" that works on 11.04?
[08:09] <taglass> jooseyjoose: that should be able to break it up for you
[08:10] <Braiam> elad: broken usb, then? has you tried redownload the image file iso
[08:10] <mello> joako: you weren't expecting from canonical here were you? I'm just trying to help.
[08:10] <nicklo> I'd like to try Natty on this MacBook but wondering which iso to download.
[08:10] <elad> braiam, tried a cd too...
[08:10] <keruom_> but i want to have automatic updates working, so I would like to install 'linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.38-lucid-generic' as the package desription suggests...
[08:10] <lo0m> Obamanation: dual boot is not an option.. i use linux for years, it was just my past employer that was hooked to M$ so much he forced me to use it...
[08:10] <keruom_> but there seems to be no such package on lucid
[08:10] <Blue1> keruom_: this may/may not help:  http://pkill-9.com/getting-wireless-connect-to-work-for-acer-aspire-on-ubuntu/
[08:10] <Braiam> elad: both same results?
[08:10] <red2kic> nicklo: I imagine it is the one with -mac- in the filename you mentioned above.
[08:11] <joako> I know what .torrent is, but put into google "ubuntu torrent" and I get this: http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/alternative-download ERROR 404
[08:11] <atharva> unable to start Synaptic Unable to get exclusive lock
[08:11] <atharva> This usually means that another package management application (like apt-get or aptitude) is already running. Please close that application first.
[08:11] <elad> braiam, exact same results\
[08:11] <Obamanation> lo0m: i apologize if i'm making you repeat yourself (just joined a minute ago) but how come it's not an option?
[08:11] <Braiam> elad: then is a corrupted iso what you have
[08:11] <nicklo> red2kic: Yeah I'd presumed so. I was curious where the info is on what that means
[08:11] <mello> joako: that was not really in your description; from what you said it sounded like you didn't know what torrents are..
[08:11] <nicklo> if I try download direct from ubuntu.com I don't get the mac version
[08:11] <red2kic> nicklo: "This image is adjusted to work properly on Mac systems"
[08:11] <nicklo> there is also the alternative mac version
[08:11] <elad> braiam, both the 64 bit & 32 bits that ive tried? i dled it directly from ubuntu
[08:11] <red2kic> Robert__: Talk here.
[08:11] <nicklo> red2kic: where did you get that info?
[08:12] <red2kic> nicklo: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/
[08:12] <Robert__> i try but nothing gets read
[08:12] <red2kic> Robert__: What is the problem?
[08:12] <mello> joako http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#bt
[08:12] <lo0m> Obamanation: as i dont want it.. i dont need Win.. inside VirtualBox i made a perfect working setup.. i was just finding a way to transfer it to HDD (so it would be the only OS)
[08:12] <nicklo> red2kic: excellent, thanks!
[08:12] <thegoodcushion> So here's a thought: Why does the distro fit exactly on one CD?  Does the base install consist of packages that will fit on one CD?  Would Ubuntu ever distribute a release that needed compulsory download or burning to DVD?
[08:12] <Braiam> elad: check the hashsum or download via torrent
[08:12] <red2kic> nicklo: Np.
[08:12] <keruom_> Blue1: thx, but the problem is somehow different :-) I am missing the linux-backports-modules-compat-wireless-2.6.38-lucid-generic package in lucid
[08:12] <SoulRaven> hi, i try to find the  loader.conf in ubuntu server, but i don't know where is it
[08:12] <SoulRaven> http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:iP3utsapSvIJ:manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/man4/ep.4freebsd.html+ubuntu+3CCE589ET&cd=4&hl=ro&ct=clnk&gl=ro&source=www.google.ro
[08:13] <elad> braiam, ok thanks
[08:13] <Braiam> elad: no problem :-)
[08:13] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: Because it's easy.
[08:13] <heroprimeremix> How do i get to my home directory while i am root user?
[08:13] <Robert__> red2kic can you help
[08:13] <SoulRaven> where i put the if_ep_load="YES" in ubuntu server
[08:13] <Tm_T> thegoodcushion: it fits exactly to one cd as with every release there's fine balancing on what will be included because of the limits of CD as medium. And atleast for now the plan is to keep doing that way
[08:13] <Magnusson> heroprimeremix: cd /home/
[08:13] <thegoodcushion> red2kic: so are all releases limited by that size?
[08:13] <ror> booting into ubuntu-classic option I get no launchers, panels etc, I can't launch anything :(
[08:13] <Obamanation> lo0m: ooh okay, yeah i may have a difference of opinion on one count, but anyhow, is it windows or ubuntu that you set up in VM
[08:13] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: You want to install Ubuntu using Iomega Zip Disk or Floppy disk? Be my guest.
[08:14] <Magnusson> heroprimeremix: cd /home/(username) sorry
[08:14] <red2kic> Robert__: What is the problem?
[08:14] <thegoodcushion> red2kic: well what about using DVD?
[08:14] <thegoodcushion> red2kic: Or USB key would be possible too
[08:14] <thegoodcushion> See in future we could say that the release is limited to 4 gigs compressed
[08:14] <Robert__> red2kic__:i am heaving trouble upgrading
[08:14] <lo0m> Obamanation: sorry wasnt clear.. i setup Ubuntu 10.10 in VirtualBox.. Win7 is the host machine
[08:15] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: I'm not the person to ask -- but if you insist, there are minimal iso (12MB).
[08:15] <red2kic> thegoodcushion: Yes, USB is already possible. I have been using USB method.
[08:15] <SoulRaven> hi, i try to find the  loader.conf in ubuntu server, but i don't know where is it
[08:15] <linuxuz3r> i missed the release party
[08:15] <red2kic> Robert__: I see. I hate upgrades. I always find myself doing clean installations over upgrades.
[08:15] <Obamanation> lo0m: perfect. install apt-to-cd (or something like that) and it make a burnable image of your installation that you can do a "fresh" install with
[08:15] <Phil_Shapiro> Anyone here, please...is there a solution to the problem of loging into a Windows 7 network?
[08:16] <thegoodcushion> linuxuz3r: you can have a release party of your own
[08:16] <mang0> Guys, I have to much to write here, please check this out: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text I've been having install problems
[08:16] <linuxuz3r> is 11.04 lts?
[08:16] <SoulRaven> hi, i try to find the  loader.conf in ubuntu server, but i don't know where is it
[08:16] <keruom_> linuxuz3r: yes
[08:16] <ZykoticK9> linuxuz3r, no 10.04is LTS
[08:16] <keruom_> linuxuz3r: eeeh, sorry :-)
[08:17] <Obamanation> lo0m: it saves all packages you have installed and does not add any you removed. it will not, however, save documents or media of any kind
[08:17] <Robert__> red2kic__:ok then well i am on a dual boot pc with windows 7 and ubuntu 10.04 do how do i get rid of ubuntu with out messing up windows
[08:17] <Braiam> !repeat | SoulRaven Phil_Shapiro
[08:17] <lo0m> Obamanation: oh, thanks.. i thought AptOnCd can just store package information (what was installed).. anyway, i could copy just the dotfiles than manually.. thanx - will go that way
[08:18] <Obamanation> lo0m: anytime :)
[08:18] <ror> Is there anything I need to add if I remove unity?
[08:18] <red2kic> Robert__: ##windows might be the proper channel (I'm not sure how to deal with mbr/grub).
[08:18] <Phil_Shapiro> ubottu: ok thanks
[08:18] <Obamanation> lo0m: it will create an image of your 10.10 but you can just do the upgrade process afterwards.
[08:18] <Robert__> red2kic__:mbr/grub?
[08:19] <red2kic> Robert__: Windows use whatever they use. Linux use grub.  (for bootloader).
[08:19] <red2kic> !info grub | Robert__
[08:20] <Obamanation> anyone know how to remove an applet from the panel that won't open a context menu?
[08:20] <red2kic> Robert__: When you start up your computer, the bios do its stuffs first -- then grub does it stuffs.
[08:20] <Braiam> red2kic: i think that is grub2
[08:20] <Robert__> red2kic__:oh ok so how do i delete ubuntu
[08:21] <red2kic> Robert__: You can delete it using liveCD (delete the partition) -- but I don't know how you would deal with grub. You should ask in ##windows about the mbr question.
[08:21] <Obamanation> Robert__; red2kic: you can also overwrite the PC bios with grub (-_o) not recommended unless you know what you're doing
[08:21] <ddddddddddd> i have one question should i take kde
[08:21] <Rehan> i'm installing ubuntu 11.04 and it keeps hanging at the very end due to nvidia drivers not being found, although on the liveUSB trial run there were no problems
[08:22] <ddddddddddd> i have one question should i take kde
[08:22] <red2kic> ddddddddddd: Why wouldn't you?
[08:22] <mang0> Guys, I have to much to write here, please check this out: http://www.pasteall.org/21230/text I've been having install problems with 10.10 LiveCD. Please ping me/mention my name in your answers so I can minimize xchat. Thanks!
[08:22] <ror> please can somebody help? I can't seem to get ubuntu-classic to work
[08:22] <ZykoticK9> related to Rehan's question above, it is possible to use Nvidia Proprietary drivers in 11.04?
[08:23] <ddddddddddd> red2kic:
[08:23] <Robert__> red2kic__; Obamanation: oh my gosh why is all of this so complicated
[08:23] <ddddddddddd> how can i under KDE start up the command /etc/init.d//ccpd start
[08:23] <ddddddddddd> it should runned as autostart
[08:23] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: kde is best suited for learning how linux works and how to develop for it
[08:24] <red2kic> Robert__: It isn't. You can remove/install grub using linux systems -- the problem is that how do you install to the first sector of HDD with Windows? (Usually that is being done when you install Windows for first time).
[08:24] <tuxy_> hello i am having a problem setting a unique mount in 11.04 ubuntu
[08:24] <ddddddddddd> how can i under KDE start up the command /etc/init.d//ccpd start
[08:24] <ddddddddddd> it should runned as autostart
[08:24] <red2kic> Robert__: So you don't want to reinstall Windows (Fine -- but how do you install the boot process for Windows?) Ask in ##windows
[08:24] <taglass> Robert__: http://www.ehow.com/how_4836283_repair-mbr-windows.html
[08:24] <red2kic> Robert__: One choice is to leave it alone (grub).
[08:25] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: have you tried entering it from grub's shell?
[08:25] <Blue1> red2kic: are you trying to fix a dual boot issue?
[08:25] <tuxy_> why cannot i not name my own point on the installer ?
[08:25] <red2kic> Blue1: No. He wanted to get rid of Ubuntu (and grub is part of Ubuntu). :)
[08:25] <Blue1> red2kic: ahh ok
[08:25] <ddddddddddd> Obamanation no i meant as systemstart
[08:25] <Magnusson> tuxy_: did you select "advanced" or something to that effect?
[08:26] <Axlin> ddddddddddd: look in system settings → startup & shutdown
[08:26] <Robert__> red2kic__; ok your talking alot about windows
[08:26] <ror> wtf, I can't remove unity without removing ubuntu-desktop?
[08:26] <Robert__> red2kic__: i dont want to do any thing to windows
[08:26] <fubada> hey guys is it cool to cnntrl-c  do-upgrade-release
[08:26] <fubada> im in the middle of apt downloading
[08:26] <fubada> the mirrors are too slow
[08:26] <fubada> and i need sleep
[08:27] <red2kic> mang0: Just plug the cable in.
[08:27] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: i know of a dirty way to make that happen
[08:27] <Rehan> is it possible to torrent the updates?
[08:27] <mang0> cable for what, red2kic?
[08:27] <Braiam> fubada: this is cause the heavy load of the servers
[08:28] <fubada> Braiam, i understand this, is it safe to control-c
[08:28] <fubada> the process of do-release-upgrade
[08:28] <fubada> im in the apt-get stage
[08:28] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: make the command auto-run in a terminal via saved session every time you cold boot
[08:28] <ddddddddddd> Obamanation can i do it in
[08:28] <ddddddddddd> startup and shutdownn ?
[08:28] <red2kic> mang0: Get a cable. Move your computer downstairs. I don't know. The cables are pretty cheap. Got myself 25FT HDMI for 10 bucks. Get 100ft if you need it.
[08:28] <thegoodcushion> Okay, I have an nvidia GTX460SE card running on Ubuntu 10.04.  The screen is in 640x480 mode and obviously isn't being accelerated.  How do I get decent drivers for it?  The nvidia website wants me to download a 26 megabyte .bin file and I don't know what to do with it
[08:29] <red2kic> mang0: Until you get that Wifi part solved -- Often, when you're installing something -- you always want to use cable.
[08:29] <fubada> thegoodcushion, sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[08:29] <mang0> hmm
[08:29] <ddddddddddd> startup and shutdownn ? can i do theree
[08:29] <listpi> what does udisks utility do ?
[08:29] <thegoodcushion> fubada: thx
[08:29] <mang0> Okay, I'll talk to my mum
[08:29] <Obamanation> ddddddddddd: not sure i understand what you're asking
[08:29] <michael> help needed
[08:29] <listpi> what does udisks utility do ?
[08:29] <Blue1> listpi: man udisks might be a good place to start.
[08:30] <taglass> ddddddddddd: I know chkconfig can be used to enable/disable services which is what you seem to want.  I'm not sure what the "ubuntu way" is though
[08:30] <listpi> Blue1 : thanks but i am using 9.04 ubuntu and on this udisk is not available
[08:30] <listpi> blue1 : tell me what i do
[08:30] <ejv> red2kic: a 25ft hdmi from best buy would cost like $1000 LOL
[08:30] <Blue1> listpi: what are you trying to do?
[08:31] <Braiam> !help | michael
[08:31] <red2kic> ejv: Probably. Best Buy is a scumbag corportation.
[08:31] <mang0> red2kic cant I mount the .iso using daemon tools lite, run wubi, click the option to dualboot it, it'll restart after installing, then you will always have an option for windows or ubuntu on startup
[08:31] <mang0> I'll*
[08:31] <SoulRaven> i can't find loader.conf
[08:31] <red2kic> !iso | mang0
[08:31] <ejv> red2kic: yup ;)
[08:31] <red2kic> mang0: I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish though.
[08:31] <taglass> SoulRaven: loader.conf is a BSDism
[08:32] <linuxuz3r> !gnome3
[08:32] <Blue1> listpi: you realise that 9.04 is no longer supported
[08:32] <mang0> red2kic I want to dual boot windows and ubuntu, and have them on seperate hard drives (I have 2)
[08:32] <red2kic> mang0: If you want to dualboot, you can use either option -- Disc or Wubi. -- I don't like Wubi.
[08:32] <linuxuz3r> whats the difference between gnome 3 and gnome shell
[08:32] <SoulRaven> taglass: and how i load  if_ep_load="YES"
[08:32] <sighhhh> hello, i seem to have lost my start menu... how do i get it back i cant find on the web
[08:32] <taglass> SoulRaven: you don't.  That's for FreeBSD
[08:33] <mang0> red2kic I don't want to use Wubi....but it might be my only option for the moment
[08:33] <thegoodcushion> fubada: I have the proprietary drivers installed but it still seems to be using VGA crappy settings
[08:33] <listpi> Blue1 : ya but let me know if i upgrade 9.04 to 9.10 then is there any effect ...i will get the same thing after upgrade
[08:33] <red2kic> mang0: If you're on a tower. Can't you unplug HDD you don't want to use, and plug the one you want to use Ubuntu on?
[08:33] <SoulRaven> taglass: and is no solution to load the module for 3com cards?
[08:33] <fubada> thegoodcushion, you got the nvidia control panel under Administration>
[08:33] <mang0> hmm
[08:33] <fubada> mess with that
[08:33] <mang0> I could
[08:33] <fubada> im goign to bed
[08:33] <fubada> night
[08:33] <FloodBot3> fubada: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:33] <mang0> hold on
[08:34] <Blue1> listpi: you should backup /home/ and /etc/ then do a fresh install of at least 10.04 or higher -- 10.04 was an lts (long term support) release
[08:34] <AMAG> No doubt this is a common question, but is there a FAQ item telling me how to get my nvidia driver working after 11.04 upgrade?  Under "Additional Drivers," I am told "This driver is activated but not currently in use."
[08:34] <sighhhh> how do i recover my start menu. its disapeared?
[08:34] <taglass> SoulRaven: It should be loading it automatically if it's supported.  I'm not going to tackle this because I'm going to bed.  I just wanted to fix your BSD problem :)
[08:35] <JWay> is it intentional that when using unity, compiz takes up 9-10% cpu load constantly when doing nothing but having a terminal and chrome open?
[08:35] <Starminn> sighhhh: Which Ubuntu version?
[08:35] <sighhhh> 11.04 just upgraded
[08:35] <Rehan> 11.04 keeps stopping during installation due to a lack of nvidia-current. What can I do to fix this? Thank you.
[08:35] <zamba> these days "which ubuntu version" should be a pretty redundant question :)
[08:35] <ror> Right, how can I get the chromium launcher to LAUNCH A NEW WINDOW when I click it? At the moment it just brings back up the window I already have open
[08:35] <joako> If I installed Ubuntu 10.10 it's not going to automatically update to 11.04?
[08:35] <maedox> sighhhh: log out, click you username if applicable, select Ubuntu Classic on the menu and then log in.
[08:35] <ror> this is exactly why I switched away from windows in the first place, because windows 7 was doing that
[08:35] <Braiam> Rehan: you checked your CD
[08:35] <ramshot> Heya, just upgraded to 11.04 and I'm impressed so far, but one thing is driving me nuts... How do I launch a new instance from the launcher instead of switching to one already opened? I've tried alt/ctrl/shift/etc and just can't find it / google it :)
[08:35] <zamba> i'm guessing 90% of all questions in here are related to 11.04 :)
[08:35] <sighhhh> thanks maedox
[08:35] <heroprimeremix> how do i change my cursor in 11.04
[08:35] <sighhhh> i luf joe!
[08:36] <ramshot> Heh, I see I'm not the only one with the same quetion %)
[08:36] <ejv> solution: go back to windows.
[08:36]  * ejv bows
[08:36] <Blue1> ejv: or debian
[08:36] <listpi> blue1 : can you tell how to automount local drive on boot
[08:36] <heroprimeremix> how do i change my cursor theme??? ANYONE?????
[08:37] <ror> Since when did #ubuntu become so unhelpful?
[08:37] <ejv> appearances!???
[08:37] <atavist> i have 2 computer running with ubuntu, have shared some folders -- neither computer can see the other shares when browsing through nautilus. any thoughts?
[08:37] <ramshot> ror: I found one page saying that middle mouse button could work, but for me it doesn't, try it if you haven't.
[08:37] <heroprimeremix> ejv: it dosent work
[08:37] <Blue1> listpi: http://pkill-9.com/removable-usb-devices-and-fstab-settings/
[08:37] <ror> ramshot: that did work for me, thanks
[08:37] <red2kic> ror: Use Ctrl + N in Chromium? :o
[08:37] <ramshot> Okay then, how do I get my middle mouse button to work, anyone? :D
[08:38] <ejv> ror, the point is that no one has any interest in what your experience was like in windows since this is ubuntu support.
[08:38] <Blue1> atavist: can they ping each other?
[08:38] <AnySocal> hello ubuntu users
[08:38] <AMAG> nvidia driver help on 11.04, anyone?
[08:38] <AnySocal> how is everyone?
[08:38] <ror> ejv: I was just pointing out there seems to be a lot of regression this release to make things more like windows or mac, when ubuntu was better
[08:38] <atavist> Blue1: i'm coming from windows, what's the equivalent of ipconfig to find my IP?
[08:38]  * Blue1 is waiting for the royal bemoaning to start
[08:38] <ramshot> I'm great thanks, but I'd be better if my middle mouse button worked :)
[08:39] <AMAG> atavist:ifconfig
[08:39] <Blue1> atavist: ifconfig
[08:39] <zachgretzinger> atavist www.ip-adress.com
[08:39] <ejv> ror: i believe gnome should also be available as a fall back, should unity not work as intended
[08:39] <AnySocal> lol middle button is so useful
[08:39] <ramshot> ror: Btw, afaik it's possible to easily switch to the old gnome configuration still would should be about the same experience as 10.04
[08:39] <ror> ejv: how? It's not working for me, even "ubuntu-classic" isnt' working for me
[08:39] <ramshot> From the login screen afaik
[08:40] <ror> I'd happily switch back, but trying to uninstall unity I got "also need to uninstall ubuntu-desktop" which worried me
[08:40] <AnySocal> well just wanted to say hey
[08:40] <AnySocal> have a good one
[08:40] <folivora> ror: Yes old Gnome is fallback.. If your gfxcard is unable to work with new 3d env....
[08:40] <atavist> Blue1: yes they can ping each other
[08:40] <AMAG> I upgraded a test machine first.  Glad I did, since the test machine is now totally unusable
[08:40] <Blue1> atavist: so you are doing a samba share then?
[08:40] <ror> folivora: my gfxcard isn't at fault? And if I choose "ubuntu classic" I just get my desktop background and a cursor, and no panels/menus etc
[08:40] <Magnusson> isn't there a command to cd back to your last working directory?
[08:41] <red2kic> Magnusson: "cd ..?" (parent directory)
[08:41] <AMAG> ror: I saw a blog or something about that today.  I think your "classic" problem may be common.
[08:41] <ZykoticK9> Magnusson, cd -
[08:41] <Browser> Buenas.
[08:41] <Blue1> Magnusson: you can cd ../  which will but you one directory higher in the chain
[08:41] <atavist> Blue1: I believe so. I right clicked on the folder, enabled sharing, it installed what I thought was samba to enable it... then later I also tried apt-get install samba4 on both systems
[08:41] <Blue1> Magnusson: or cd ~      to go to your home directory
[08:41] <ejv> ror: worked perfectly for me, i selected ubuntu classic no effects, because well... i hate effects ;)
[08:41] <red2kic> ZykoticK9: I learned something new!
[08:42] <vega> Blue1: that can be done with just "cd"
[08:42] <ramshot> This is just weird... middle button seems to launch a new instance... like 1/3 of the times I try it
[08:42] <Blue1> atavist: this may/may not help:  http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/1060-how-to-configure-samba-using-a-graphical-interface-in-ubuntu
[08:42] <ejv> honestly, outside of unity, this new version is anti-climatic....
[08:43] <Magnusson> nah i'm not looking to move 1 level up, i could be nuts but i think i remember years ago being able to for example  cd /etc/X11, then cd /mnt/cdrom, then use another command to get back to cd /etc/X11 (just an example off the top of head)
[08:43] <ghost1551> ej
[08:43] <red2kic> Magnusson: "cd -"  ?
[08:43] <Starminn> ejv: Well, they dumped OpenOffice and Rhythmbox. (And now use what I've been using for months, so I'm pleased)
[08:43] <Blue1> Magnusson: cd ../   will do that
[08:43] <ghost1551> abe seljak
[08:43] <Magnusson> Blue1>oh ya? cool thanks :)
[08:43] <ror> It just annoys me how Canonical are such clowns these days. Ever since the "megabug" over the naming of Ubuntu One, they've acted in their interests only. For example they just added a load of their apps to my launcher without asking, they now have a launcher you can't configure, you can't even move the panel to the bottom of the screen; Window switching used to be easy, by scrolling the mousewheel over the panel, you can't do
[08:43] <ror>  that now. I guess the "solution" is to go to debian, but I've been using Ubuntu since edgy and I *liked* it.
[08:43] <ejv> Starminn: banshee? agreed, been using for years via the PPA
[08:43] <ghost1551> abe angel
[08:44] <Starminn> ejv: Yep. I thinkt hat the only exciting thing for the version itself (other than Unity, of course) is they dumped OpenOffice which is a pretty bold move.
[08:44] <isbric> how do i check the fifo buffer limit?
[08:44] <red2kic> ror: Heh. You can always go with Ubuntu minimal and install barebone gnome environment.
[08:44] <ejv> Starminn: i don't really know the difference betwen open and libre office, but it sounds merely like licensing...
[08:44] <red2kic> Starminn: OpenOffice isn't open anymore, yah?
[08:45] <red2kic> libre/free.
[08:45] <ror> But I don't want minimal, I like all the effects and fancy stuff, but they've gone from applications where you can configure every last detail to applications where the application forces *your* behaviour
[08:45] <Blue1> Starminn: dunno good question -but libreoffice is not ready for primetime, imho
[08:45] <mang0> right, I'm back. red2kic what were you saying about unplugging one of the hard drives?
[08:45] <red2kic> Blue1: Libreoffice works for me just fine? :o
[08:45] <ror> that and not being able to scroll through open windows with the mouse wheel is horribly worse for me, it's the only way I used to switch windows
[08:45] <AMAG> I do not like how I just clicked restart from a logged-in user and it just returned to the login screen
[08:46] <vega> ror: too much trying to mimick mac-style ... this release definitely seems to be at testing stage
[08:46] <Blue1> red2kic: ymmv applies
[08:46] <Starminn> ejv: Libre is a fork of Open. They didn't like how things were ebing handled so they formed LibreOffice,
[08:46] <Rehan> is there a way to torrent all the updates with the ISO instead of sitting here waiting for it to download from Canonical?
[08:46] <marioczek> hello all
[08:46] <Blue1> howdy marioczek tex
[08:46] <Starminn> Rehan: You can upgrade with the AlternateCD I believe.
[08:47] <red2kic> mang0: I'm not sure what you wanted to do. Dualboot. Just grab your mama's cable.
[08:47] <Rehan> Starminn: doing a fresh install
[08:47] <marioczek> i have some question about root
[08:47] <mang0> right D:<
[08:47] <Blue1> marioczek: ok
[08:47] <Starminn> Rehan: Then just grab it from the torrent the link to, or find one on a torrent site as I'm sure one's already there. Normal LiveCD
[08:47] <Starminn> !root | marioczek
[08:47] <marioczek> i try create a server on ubuntu 11.04
[08:48] <Oday> can i do "wc" on a .odt document?
[08:48] <ejv> if you can push it to stdout, sure
[08:48] <Rehan> Starminn: i already have the liveCD iso, put it on a USB, installing from it currently, but its installing so many things slowly
[08:48] <marioczek> whe i try create a folder in var/www its write im not have access
[08:48] <mang0> red2kic I will take the cable, but I can't install, as Ubuntu LiveCD wont actually detect my drives....
[08:48] <daxt> hi guys , i installed 11.04 in my HDD parallel to 10.10 Lucid , but  11.04 is not listed in the boot menu ,  How do i fix it ?
[08:48] <Oday> i can :)
[08:48] <maxmahem> Okay, somehow after I upgraded to 11.04 I broke GRUB. I've booted to my install via a SuperGRUB USB, but how do I go about fixing my grub setup?
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: I see. You might want to try alt.
[08:49] <red2kic> !alt | mang0
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: (wider range of hardware) -- Not sure if that applies -- but it might.
[08:49] <Blue1> daxt: this might help:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[08:49] <mang0> ooooh, an alternitive
[08:49] <Grimdin> another problem after 11.04 upgrade, laptop, nvidia, classic desktop, i use 2 monitors  and external monitor is my primary monitor, now i noticed on laptop monitor that it has global menu enabled and its missing window controls, etc, but on external monitor i have window controls and no global menu but no desktop visuals
[08:49] <mang0> native*
[08:49] <Braiam> marioczek: this is because you actualy doesn't have it, it use the www-data user
[08:49] <marioczek> siema wszystkim
[08:49] <roma99> i just mount 'ubuntu 11.4' by ISO file on my computer so now how can i upgrade my ubuntu (10.10) to new version?
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: Also, unplug the HDDs -- Lessen the chance of accidental, I suppose.
[08:49] <marioczek> siema
[08:49] <red2kic> mang0: (When it's off).
[08:49] <daxt> hey Blue1 thanks for quick reply !
[08:49] <mang0> k
[08:50] <mang0> right, thankyou red2kic  :D
[08:50] <Blue1> roma99: I've had problems upgrading - it is genrally (for me) better to backup /etc/ and /home/ and then do a fresh install.
[08:50] <roma99> there must be some ways to upgrade from iso files?
[08:51] <Braiam> roma99: using the alternative CD
[08:51] <roma99> you mean burn the ISO on a CD?
[08:51] <red2kic> !alt | roma99
[08:52] <red2kic> roma99: If your ISO have -desktop- in it, you got the wrong iso.
[08:52] <daxt> hey Blue1  That did not help :(
[08:52] <Blue1> daxt: :-(
[08:52] <Blue1> daxt: you have two version of ubuntu and one is not listed, is that correct?
[08:52] <daxt> yes Blue1
[08:53] <roma99> red2kic: no desktop folder in ISO file!
[08:53] <Blue1> daxt: what do you have installed?  what shows up, what does not?
[08:53] <red2kic> roma99: What iso do you have?
[08:53] <daxt> i see the 10.10 with many kernal versions and my old school Win XP
[08:54] <roma99> red2kic:  ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso   >> just download from ubuntu.com!!!!
[08:54] <Blue1> daxt: okay what does NOT show up?
[08:54] <red2kic> roma99: Right -- That's the wrong one.
[08:54] <daxt> ubuntu 11.04 entry
[08:54] <red2kic> roma99: You want ubuntu-11.04-alternative-i386.iso
[08:54] <red2kic> !alt | roma99
[08:55] <Blue1> daxt: I just downloaded the iso for 11.04 so I have no experience with that (yet) - maybe someone else can assist?
[08:55] <roma99> red2kic: so what's the diffrent between them?
[08:55] <red2kic> ubottu: You fail me. :\
[08:55] <daxt> Blue1  its installed on sdb8
[08:55] <red2kic> roma99: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the  !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD.
[08:55] <Rehan> Downloading at 16 kB/s reminds me of being on a US Robotics modem back in the day
[08:55] <daxt> if i can add that to grub loader , then it should work
[08:56] <daxt> Rehan r u from sri lanka ?
[08:56] <red2kic> roma99: desktop -- it included graphical installer.
[08:56] <Blue1> daxt: yes
[08:56] <red2kic> roma99: alternative does not.
[08:56] <Rehan> daxt: i'm in california
[08:56] <red2kic> roma99: And it also can be used for upgrading, etc etc.
[08:56] <zvacet> Rehan: use torrent
[08:56] <daxt> Blue1 where is that file ?
[08:56] <daxt> Rehan r u a sri lankan ?
[08:56] <Blue1> daxt: what is your boot device?
[08:56] <Rehan> zvacet: how do you download updates from torrent?
[08:56] <daxt> sda1
[08:56] <Rehan> zvacet: i have the liveUSB installing but it has been installing ubiquity for a long time now
[08:57] <roma99> red2kic: but i think if i burn that on a CD , i can also install a fresh ubuntu? am i right?
[08:57] <Rehan> daxt: nope, parents are from Pakistan
[08:57] <themacg33k> Hi. I can't seem to find out what Ubufox actually does to Firefox in Ubuntu... what is it?
[08:57] <root__> lo
[08:57] <zvacet> Rehan:  sorry ,I was thinking of iso yes servers are overloaded
[08:57] <red2kic> roma99: Yes, you can do a clean installation. Be sure to backup /home/ and /etc/
[08:57] <root__> hello
[08:57] <root__> i need some help
[08:57] <daxt> Rehan - ok cool ,  name Rehan is a very common Sri Lankan name too ;) that is why i asked
[08:57] <Rehan> ask my son.
[08:57] <root__> can any one help me
[08:58] <root__> dear i am using back track 4
[08:58] <folivora> Could someone remeber, where in the hell in compiz is setting  that when you move cursor away from active to another it dims totally the last window and vuse versa
[08:58] <Robert__> Could not calculate the upgrade
[08:58] <Robert__> An unresolvable problem occurred while calculating the upgrade:
[08:58] <Robert__> E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
[08:58] <Robert__> caused by held packages.
[08:58] <Robert__> This can be caused by:
[08:58] <FloodBot3> Robert__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:58] <Robert__> * Upgrading to a pre-release version of Ubuntu
[08:58] <maxmahem> Anyone have any clues on how to fix a broken GRUB setup?
[08:58] <Rehan> daxt: oh ok cool, i didn't know it was common in Sri Lanka also
[08:58] <root__> when m trying to command airmon-ng it shows my wlano
[08:58] <red2kic> !bt | root__
[08:58] <folivora> I had that setting on before upgrade...
[08:59] <red2kic> !backtrack | root__
[08:59] <root__> but when i try to airmon-ng start wlan0 it gives error
[08:59] <Rehan> maxmahem: whats the problem with your grub?
[08:59] <Braiam> red2kic: you havo no luck with ubottu
[08:59] <Braiam> have
[08:59] <maxmahem> Rehan: Somehow I broke it during the upgrade to 11.04
[08:59] <Dania> hey guys, i was upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 from 10.10 and the screen frozen during the update, so i restarted the pc and now i'm getting the black screen with: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[08:59] <Rehan> maxmahem: do you have a liveCD?
[09:00] <Tanvir> Hello, how can I install GNOME3 in my Ubuntu 11.04?
[09:00] <red2kic> Braiam: ubottu still holds a grudge against me since that night at the lake.
[09:00] <red2kic> :(
[09:00] <maxmahem> Rehan: I'm booting off the installed system now (11.4 running fine even!) via SuperGrub.
[09:00] <maxmahem> But I can't seem to fix it.
[09:00] <thegoodcushion> Hi everyone.  I've connected an HP Deskjet 2000 to Ubuntu via USB.  Ubuntu isn't virtualized, it's running on the metal now.  I print a test page and Ubuntu thinks it's completed but nothing comes out of the printer.  What do I do?  Are there proprietary drivers that I should use?
[09:00] <Braiam> !gnome3 | Tanvir
[09:00] <zvacet> maxmahem: reinstall it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD
[09:00] <maxmahem> sudo grub-install doesn't want to work. It Complains: Attempting to install GRUB to a partitionless disk or to a partition.  This is a BAD idea..
[09:01] <celestial> hi every one i have a problem i lost power half way through my upgrade to 11.04 from maverick and ive tryed to use the disk to upgrade it but it says i already have 11.04 and i cant get the system to boot up even in recovery  have a lot of stuff on there and cant afford to lose it any help would be appriciated
[09:01] <red2kic> maxmahem: Usually you point it to a hard drive.
[09:01] <jiltdil> hi 11.04 is good :)
[09:01] <Rehan> maxmahem: in liveCD, open terminal then type sudo -i
[09:01] <alkisg> Any way to sync evolution "tasks" with any app for android?
[09:01] <Rehan> maxmahem: then: mount /dev/sda5 (sda5 is where your Ubuntu is, change as needed)
[09:02] <Rehan> maxmahem: then: grub-install --root-directory=/mnt/ /dev/sda
[09:02] <red2kic> celestial: You borked the installation. Grab a LiveCD -- Mount your hard drives, backup /home/ and /etc/ -- Go with a clean installation.
[09:02] <Tanvir> Braiam, okay, thanks. Another help, how to include shortcuts and other options (like weather)  in panel? Also, I miss the bottom panel and the minimized windows there, who to get those?
[09:02] <berkes> What is the shortcut key for the new unity menu? Not the bar, but the search that pops up when  I click the ubuntu logo?
[09:02] <michaels> hi! I updated from 10.10 to 11.04, now my installation is broken (because during update process an error occured). Is there some way to report this to cannonical (with logfiles) so that they maybe can fix this problem, or does this make no sense. later I will simply reinstall
[09:02] <yi`zhi> hi everyone! i'm on narwhal right now. things are looking pretty good except for zeitgeist. will i be able to remove it without incurring penalties?
[09:02] <Rehan> maxmahem: then reboot and it should find your proper entries, then you can go into your ubuntu and from terminal do: sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[09:03] <maxmahem> Rehan: Well slight problem, I'm already in my install, not running of a live CD.
[09:03] <jiltdil> can we not change the top applet (opacity)
[09:03] <zvacet> michaels: what kind of error
[09:03] <maxmahem> Thus my active partition is already mounted.
[09:03] <Dania> Rehan can you help me in my problem mentioned above ^^
[09:03] <Rehan> maxmahem: go to a liveCD, then do those commands
[09:04] <Rehan> Dania: sorry i only knew the answer to maxmahem's issue because i had the same problem myself a week ago. I'm actually really new to Ubuntu and don't know much at all
[09:04] <yi`zhi> or is zeitgeist something we're not allowed to talk about :X
[09:04] <Robert__> don't get me wrong I find this whole ubuntu thing fascinating but I am having way to many problems with it
[09:04] <zvacet> maxmahem: exact same commaands on link I posted to you
[09:04] <nesto1000> So guys, I just installed ubuntu 11.04 64
[09:04] <Braiam> Tanvir: I don't know, I'll wait a week or twice to upgrade
[09:05] <michaels> zvacet, i got a black screen (with upstart-commands from start of 10.10) and the cursor. nothing more worked. then i shut down and did the rest of the install from the shell. but now, some things don't work properly
[09:05] <incorrect1> oh windows don't have any edge resistance in unity
[09:05] <nesto1000> So guys, I just installed ubuntu 11.04 64bit and well, I can' get flash player to work.... any help with that?
[09:05] <Tanvir> Barridus, good. I am in trap by this update. :(
[09:05] <jiltdil> i am on 11.04 64bit in ubuntu s/w center which option shhould i to do install for virtual box as there are many?
[09:05] <dasy2k1> !flash | nesto1000
[09:06] <zvacet> michaels: if you backed up your files reinstall
[09:06] <jiltdil> !virtualbox
[09:07] <michaels> zvacet, sorry, I don't understand what you want to say....
[09:07] <michaels> zvacet, you mean, that I should do reinstall if i have backup? yes, i have backup
[09:08] <zvacet> michaels: if you have files witch you want to keep back them up and after that reinstall
[09:08] <michaels> zvacet, but first, i thought that maybe it makes sense to report this to cannonical somehow.... or does this make no sense?
[09:08] <EbanSoul> Is the download server overloaded with requests ? just curious because it is going really slow here.
[09:08] <eekTheCat> Would someone kindly reccomend an rss client..
[09:08] <michaels> zvacet, maybe they can find a new problem? or a problem that occured also for other users?
[09:08] <yata> I just downloaded ubuntu (i386) (from Australia) it was pretty quick
[09:09] <dasy2k1> most likely EbanSoul, try the bittorrent downloands, they should be fast
[09:09] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Liferea for one thing.
[09:09] <celestial> anyone help with my problem above please
[09:09] <zvacet> michaels: yes it make sense but I don't know how to do it
[09:09] <EbanSoul> tyvm will do
[09:09] <michaels> zvacet, ok thanks!
[09:09] <MrOpposite> hello
[09:09] <berkes> NM it is the "windows"  key. AKAK "meta"
[09:09] <CQ> quick question... i'm running lucid, and do-release-upgrade shows no upgrade available... what do I need to do??
[09:09] <yi`zhi> o well. i'm removing zeitgeist right now
[09:09] <MrOpposite> is there any program that works like screen
[09:09] <red2kic> CQ: You don't have to upgrade if you wish to stay on LTS.
[09:09] <MrOpposite> but for X-applications?
[09:09] <michaels> everyone: how to report broken updates to cannonical? or does this make no sense? if it makes sense; how to do it?
[09:09] <jiltdil> any new fighting game available in ubuntu 11.04?
[09:10] <CQ> red2kic: I know, but in that VM I want to upgrade
[09:10] <red2kic> !bugs | michaels
[09:10] <red2kic> CQ: Check Software Sources. Look for it. :)
[09:10] <dasy2k1> MrOpposite: screen for X apps, isnt that called multiple desktops?
[09:10] <red2kic> CQ: You might want to do a clean installation (just much quicker without having to go through two versions).
[09:10] <eekTheCat> red2kic, thank you. anyone else with news aggregator reccomendations?
[09:10] <MaRk-I> CQ: try: alt+f2 update-manager
[09:10] <zvacet> CQ:  unnder synaptic>repositories>updates>at the bottom you can choose between normal and lts release upgrade set your to normal
[09:10] <MrOpposite> uhm, I was intending on using it with xforwarding and ssh
[09:11] <MrOpposite> to use*
[09:11] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Thunderbird does it -- but it comes with mail + calendar.
[09:11] <MrOpposite> not "on using"
[09:11] <michaels> ubottu, yes, but there are several things broken, because of the update.... is there a way to report the whole state of the installation? so that they maybe can find the bug, if they need this info...?!
[09:11] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Google Reader. I'm sure there are few more I forget about.
[09:11] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Liferea got tray so it's pretty nifty.
[09:11] <dasy2k1> MrOpposite:  i would just use screen then
[09:11] <CQ> hm, can I jump from 10.04 to 11.04, or do I need to hop to 10.10?
[09:12] <MrOpposite> hmm
[09:12] <MrOpposite> does that work?
[09:12] <learner> anyone get pithos to work in 11.04?
[09:12] <michaels> everyone: there are several things broken, because of the update.... is there a way to report the whole state of the installation? so that they maybe can find the bug, if they need this info...?!
[09:12] <zvacet> CQ: you can not skip releases so it is 10,04>10.10>11.04
[09:12] <andeeeuk> hey
[09:12] <cvrser>  MrOpposite: I think you could only do something like that with VNC?
[09:12] <andeeeuk> is anyone having problems with skype in 11.04
[09:13] <zvacet> CQ:  or you can do fresh install of natty
[09:13] <MrOpposite> hmm
[09:13] <andeeeuk> its ok with 1 call but when you make a second it skrews up
[09:13] <eekTheCat> red2kic, so lifera is what you use regularly? I prefer desktop apps, so that eliminates google reader
[09:13] <linuxuz3r> later guys
[09:13] <MrOpposite> hmm
[09:14] <red2kic> eekTheCat: I regularly use Thunderbird but I'm changing that soon as it hogs down my memory. Some kind of memory leak, I imagine. So yeah, I'm not using any RSS at this moment -- but I plan to give liferea a try (I used it before I used Thunderbird).
[09:15] <audhi> #ubuntu+1
[09:15] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Down with Mozilla! Bloated apps! :(
[09:15] <andeeeuk> has anyone else had problems using skype on 11.04?
[09:16] <learner> i don't use it, it seemed shady in 10.10
[09:16] <incorrect1> right now do i go back to a 1x4 virtual desktop arrangement i hate 2x2
[09:16] <celestial> how can i do a repair install of 11.04 my network install was interupted and i cant afford to lose my stuff
[09:17] <eekTheCat> red2kic, liferea is unresponsive right now. it's loading all the default feeds which I was going to delete anyway :(
[09:17] <mang0> guys, I'm downloading the alternate 11.04 iso...which download do I need, Idk which one I need!
[09:17] <mang0> ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso.torrent is htat what i need?
[09:17] <red2kic> eekTheCat: Default Feeds. Heh. Planet Gnome, Planet Ubuntu, etc. :\
[09:17] <andeeeuk> has anyone heard of skype before?
[09:17] <andeeeuk> :p
[09:17] <SuperLag> andeeeuk: I guess if you're having problems with Skype on 11.04, I won't upgrade...
[09:18] <zvacet> mang0: you can also use alternate not eye candy but do the same job
[09:18] <red2kic> mang0: ubuntu-11-04-alternative-i386.iso.torrent
[09:18] <SuperLag> because we use it too much for me to be without it...
[09:18] <mang0> okay thanks
[09:18] <andeeeuk> SuperLag: yes im having problems with skype on 11.04, i wont upgrade but what do i upgrade to?
[09:19] <mang0> I need skype O.O I can't use 11.04 then
[09:19] <SuperLag> andeeeuk: i don't understand the second part of what you said
[09:19] <Nando> should I install my graphics card driver to use unity?
[09:19] <andeeeuk> well i already have 11.04
[09:19] <andeeeuk> i cant upgrade again
[09:19] <michaels> nando, as far as i know, you need 3d acceleration for unity
[09:19] <ror> right, thanks for the help some of you, I've almost got it back to how I've liked
[09:19] <andeeeuk> have you used it in classic ubuntu?
[09:19] <CQ> andeeeuk: instal virtualbox, install a small older ubuntu, install and trun skype there...
[09:20] <ror> still can't work out how to get my scale switcher back, but that'll do for now
[09:20] <learner> pithos, anyone get that going?
[09:20] <andeeeuk> I really donw know why it has stopped working in 11.04
[09:20] <michaels> nando, is there a open 3d driver for your graphics card? if yes, try this one
[09:20] <andeeeuk> you can make 1 call perfectly
[09:20] <andeeeuk> but another call and its skrewed up
[09:21] <Nando> michaels:  I don't know how it is useful I prefer gnome shell
[09:21] <andeeeuk> i think i will restart skype everytime i need to make a new call :p
[09:22] <andeeeuk> comical one of those really important apps and its not working correctly in 11.04
[09:22] <michaels> nando, I think for gnome shell you also need 3d acceleration, but im not 100% sure
[09:22] <andeeeuk> solution: testing, testing and more testing...
[09:23] <Nando> michaels:  gnome works fine but I have a problem getting in unity
[09:23] <green_> whats up with this ;eft side bar on 11.04? and no bottom panel
[09:24] <green_> left
[09:24] <Soothsayer> ok now
[09:24] <Soothsayer> this is strange
[09:24] <Soothsayer> my ubuntu installer has been stuck on this screen for like 5 hours
[09:24] <dasy2k1> green_:  just log out and log back in again selecting ubuntu classic
[09:24] <michaels> nando? what happens? doen't it load unity and gnome instead?
[09:24] <Soothsayer> "Saving installed packages....."
[09:24] <zvacet> Nando: it can be graphic card issue
[09:24] <Sik> So, I just updated to 11.04 through the updater, and was forced to go into safe mode since apparently Unity crashes on this hardware (video doesn't respond, sometimes system won't boot at all)... besides I don't like it anyways. Is there any way to set Ubuntu to always start with the old shell?
[09:24] <green_> k
[09:24] <Soothsayer> how do i cancel the install ?
[09:24] <Blue1> Soothsayer: power off/power on
[09:25] <Soothsayer> Blue1: hmm.. ok
[09:25] <Soothsayer> going to
[09:25] <jatt> Sik: at login time you can choose classical desktop or similar it will load gnome
[09:25] <Soothsayer> bbl then
[09:25] <zvacet> Soothsayer: restart clomp but will anything work after that
[09:25] <freaky[t]> hi all. how do i install sun java on 11.4?
[09:25] <zvacet> *comp
[09:25] <Sik> jatt: OK, how do I make the old shell the default though? (I'll forget to do it every time, and my mum won't even get she has to do it)
[09:25] <jatt> freaky[t]: download jdk-6u25-linux-i586.bin from oracle's site, install
[09:26] <linuxrocks> Hi all, I'm going to upgrade from 10.10 to 11. Has anyone encountered some obvious problems during the upgrade process?
[09:26] <ror> btw to anyone having problems loading classic; the way I did it was to load "classic (no effects)" then in that switch off "unity plugin" in CCSM, then switch back to "Classic"
[09:26] <krad> hi.  where can I see the list of startup services upon booting the OS?
[09:26] <Nando> michaels: the beautiful thing about gnome tasks  are organized  properly  aplications places etc
[09:26] <Blue1> freaky[t]: this might work:  http://pkill-9.com/easy-way-to-install-java-runtime-enviorment-jre-in-debian/
[09:26] <zvacet> freaky[t]: install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[09:26] <SeRVeR01> hey there, am trying to play game with wine but i got a disturbing thing the game doesn't come in full screen the title bar of ubuntu still there =/ any ideas ?
[09:26] <michaels> linuxrocks, yes I had a servus problems.... make a backup first!!!
[09:26] <ror> Sik: In Administration > Login Screen, there's a choice for "Default"
[09:26] <krad> where can I see the list of startup services upon booting the OS?
[09:26] <jatt> Sik: I don't remember either :(... maybe in the login screen you can set it as default?
[09:26] <linuxrocks> michaels, which kind of problems?
[09:27] <Sik> "Pantalla de acceso" in Spanish?
[09:27] <freaky[t]> jatt: is it adviced to use the sun java insted of the open jdk?
[09:27] <michaels> nando, so you want gnome shell? and this works or not?
[09:27] <Blue1> !es | sik
[09:27] <michaels> linuxrocks, error during install: blackscreen
[09:27] <BlackDex> i just have installed/upgraded to natty
[09:27] <Sik> Blue1: I can speak English, I just have Ubuntu set to Spanish :P
[09:27] <linuxrocks> michaels, that's not good. What did you do then?
[09:27] <Nando> guys anyone has audio cutoffs with skype?
[09:27] <BlackDex> And if i close pidgin, it realy closes
[09:27] <jatt> freaky[t]: I use it at work, it works fine. If it's for your own use is ok (1 user) but for a machine used by different people maybe is better to use from the repos.
[09:27] <Sik> Classic Ubuntu, right?
[09:27] <BlackDex> insteated of running on the background
[09:27] <Blue1> ok
[09:28] <Sik> OK, will reboot, let's see if that does it :O)
[09:28] <freaky[t]> jatt: hm ok thx
[09:28] <zvacet> Sik: onlogin screen under session choose ubuntu classic
[09:28] <Sik> zvacet: OK then I got it
[09:28] <Sik> :P
[09:28] <stefan_> eeeeeeeej
[09:28] <Braiam> BlackDex: check the pidgin preference
[09:28] <zvacet> Sik:  :o
[09:28] <Flashtek> good morning peoples.
[09:29] <fadax> hi
[09:29] <Braiam> Flashtek: night still
[09:29] <michaels> linuxrocks, i completed the upgrade using shell, but now some things are brocken
[09:29] <paul> how does rsync identify two files as the same file and skip it on the next sync, I assume it goes by more than just the fiel name?
[09:29] <linuxrocks> michaels, which things?
[09:29] <michaels> i can't start nautilus
[09:29] <Flashtek> paul, md5
[09:30] <michaels> sometimes ubuntu freezes
[09:30] <michaels> and skype also doen't start, but thats maybee another storry
[09:30] <Flashtek> michaels, put it in the microwave for 2 minutes..
[09:30] <Flashtek> michaels, what hardware ?
[09:30] <michaels> hehe....
[09:30] <michaels> macbook 2,1
[09:30] <Nando> I think 11.4 needs more time to mature
[09:30] <freaky[t]> ok thanks for all your help ;D
[09:30] <paul> Flashtek: this md5 sounds like a goood deal
[09:31] <fadax> i left my ubuntu virtual machine updating to the new version overnight, but during the update it looks like windows update restarted the computer and now i can't boot ubuntu in vmware...  it says "the disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present" .. "press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"  what should i do?
[09:31] <linuxrocks> michaels, thanks, I will postpone the upgrade...
[09:31] <Braiam> Nando: but it doesn't mature w/o tests
[09:31] <BlackDex> Braiam: The only thing i can see there is about the systray
[09:31] <Whisky_> Upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10 and have been successfuly locked out of X. Even failsafex won't start. I can only get to the login screen and when I enter my password, no desktop! Nightmare! help! :(
[09:31] <BlackDex> and that isn't available any more
[09:31] <zvacet> Nando: same story with every new release of course things will be better when we report bugs
[09:32] <Nando> Braiam: and that unity is stupid move
[09:32] <michaels> linuxrocks, yes, maybe it is a good idea to wat some days with upgrade, if you want to update a productive machine....
[09:32] <cybrhuman> Nando: why is unity a bad move?
[09:32] <ror> because it's regressive not progressive
[09:33] <zvacet> Nando: use gnome or any other de
[09:33] <linuxrocks> michaels, yes, this is my "production" machine. Prefer services to be up than running the new, shiny version of Ubuntu
[09:33] <cybrhuman> ror: unity?
[09:33] <incorrect1> how can i put back normal scroll bars?
[09:33] <linuxrocks> michales, s/the/than
[09:33] <Nando> cybrhuman: cause there is no need for it gnome is better
[09:33] <MJBrune> I have a Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) sound chipset and I want to know if my mic will work in xubuntu but its not working right. How can I fix this?
[09:33] <fadax> can anyone help m?
[09:34] <Flashtek> there is a solution to the "windows rebooted during ubuntu install"
[09:34] <fadax> me
[09:34] <Flashtek> don't run windows !
[09:34] <dasbootcapitan> Hi
[09:34] <cybrhuman> Nando: why? with these 16:9 screens we have today unity gives more production screen estate.
[09:34] <ror> cybrhuman, no it DOESN'T
[09:34] <dasbootcapitan> İ wanna install ubuntu to my refligator
[09:34] <Flashtek> how many sodding times will it run update-grub ffs..
[09:34] <fadax> Flashtek i can't fix this?  i have to reinstall ubuntu?
[09:34] <ror> with 16:9 it's more important to have icons across top/bottom where you can see them all; and I used to use left hand toolbars when I had 4:3
[09:34] <odo_> Hello everyone, any idea how to flush the DNS cache on a vanilla maverick? (short of rebooting, of course)?
[09:34] <cybrhuman> ror: how do you argue that?
[09:35] <dasbootcapitan> How can i compile go bios files
[09:35] <ror> the fact unity doesn't even allow you to choose where to have the launcher is crazy
[09:35] <Flashtek> fadax, boot from recovery, run install-grub or similar
[09:35] <Kartagis> is it possible to chroot ssh except root?
[09:35] <ror> in gnome-classic I can have as many panels as I wish, configure them all as I wish; Unity takes away control
[09:35] <Kartagis> because otherwise I can't log in as root
[09:35] <jatt> unity is beta software avoid it if you use your machine for serious work
[09:36] <Blue1> Kartagis: why do you want to login as root?
[09:36] <Whisky_> anyone?
[09:36] <ror> with 16:9 people don't maximise windows, they have long top/bottom menus making the space 16:8 then split the screen into two 8:8 sections for windows
[09:36] <Nando> cybrhuman:  maybe you are right but I do not see a big difference though
[09:36] <Whisky_> I Upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10 and have been successfuly locked out of X. Even failsafex won't start. I can only get to the login screen and when I enter my password, no desktop! Nightmare! help! :(
[09:36] <jatt> see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity
[09:36] <Kartagis> Blue1: this is a VPS
[09:36] <jatt> 1149 open bugs
[09:36] <jatt> totally useless
[09:36] <fadax> Flashtek i can't  boot from recovery, i get the same error
[09:36] <Blue1> Kartagis: ahh
[09:37] <vish> !ot | jatt
[09:37] <cybrhuman> ror: yes, but for many of us the panels were just there eating more screen estate than we liked, but they had to be there. The combination of the everpresent panel and the top bar of the window is nice I think.
[09:37] <Flashtek> fadax, install CD boot ?
[09:37] <ror> cybrhuman, no they did NOT have to be there! You can add/remove/move them as you wish in gnome. In Unity you cannot move them
[09:37] <cybrhuman> Nando: Not everyone is happy about it of course, but we still have alternatives
[09:37] <fadax> Flashtek well i can get a console root@mycomputer if i press "M" for manual recovery
[09:37] <krad> where can I see the list of startup services upon booting the OS?
[09:38] <fadax> can i do it from here?
[09:38] <Diverdude> where is gs installed in ubuntu?
[09:38] <green_> ok, what is this unity program for if it totally changes the way ubuntu has always looked? is it just to look more like some windows os?
[09:38] <vish> Diverdude: gnome-shell?
[09:38] <Flashtek> fadax, install-grub might help you
[09:38] <cybrhuman> ror: without panels there is no acceptable place for a systray.
[09:38] <ror> green: it takes the worst of mac (single menu at the top) and worst of windows (launchers don't open new instances but switch to old ones) and combines them
[09:38] <fadax> Flashtek it says "command not found"
[09:38] <jatt> green_: is to look more like Mac OS
[09:38] <Diverdude> vish, yes
[09:39] <Sik> OK, it wasn't that (though I wanted to get rid of Unity anyways). Apparently for whatever reason the new Linux kernel doesn't like my computer and won't boot properly no matter what I do, unless I go into safe mode and force it to run with the safe graphics drivers.
[09:39] <vish> !gnome3 | Diverdude
[09:39] <ror> cybrhuman, sure, but you can put a small panel on the left/right/wherever in gnome-classic, you can't with unity, so how is unity an improvement?
[09:39] <Diverdude> vish, its just a normal ubuntu 10.04 shell
[09:39] <ror> by simply forcing you to have the setup the developers want you to have without letting you customize it, is not a progressive step
[09:39] <Nando> cybrhuman: I like the new software center but sometimes I have a problem installing restricted extras giving me message operation failed
[09:39] <ror> Sik: first time I had to boot to an older kernel, then dpkg --configure
[09:39] <green_> jatt: thats what i thought just to make it acceptible for mac users
[09:40] <vish> jatt, green_ : if you dont have any support questions, you can talk in -offtopic..
[09:40] <jatt> green_: yes but it fails miserably imho
[09:40] <Sik> ror: OK, will do that, though later as right now I need to get something off internet >_>
[09:40] <ror> Ubuntu jumped the shark around the time of bug #375345 tbh
[09:40] <Estragon> hi, nautilus is not responding, file manager is not responding too
[09:41] <Estragon> im on 11.04
[09:41] <Estragon> for example I cant click on a icon on desktop or open a places
[09:41] <Whisky_> anyone?
[09:41] <Whisky_> please?
[09:41] <Whisky_> I can't get into X
[09:41] <cybrhuman> ror: understand me, I am not saying unity is the best for all, but for many I am sure it is. And for people who like to use gnome, gnome is still there. As for forcing a look on the desktop, most users wont do too much about their desktop, they want to use it and not having to configure it. So this is an improvement because you get more screen estate as default
[09:42] <fadax> Flashtek oh i found that "grub-install" works, but it says "INSTALL_DEVICE can be a GRUB device name or a system device filename" .. what should i do?
[09:42] <Flashtek> fadax, /dev/sda ??
[09:42] <vish> !ot | cybrhuman , ror
[09:42] <ror> let's take this ot then
[09:42] <Braiam> fadax: it changes depending of your HD array
[09:43] <krad> what's the restart command in ubuntu?
[09:43] <cybrhuman> ror: in a moment
[09:43] <jatt> restart
[09:43] <ror> krad: reboot
[09:43] <krad> not found
[09:43] <jatt> /sbin/restart
[09:43] <ror> or if everything is frozen, ctrl+f2 to get to a terminal, then ctrl+alt+del
[09:43] <HTCPX> does anyone know why ubuntu 11.04 installation is downloading updates when I haven't ticked the download update box?
[09:43] <krad> -su: /sbin/restart: No such file or directory
[09:43] <cybrhuman> Nando: I havn't looked too much around looking for all apps, but I expect it gets a fix.
[09:43] <Braiam> krad: sudo restart
[09:43] <krad> i'm root.
[09:43] <Braiam> krad: sudo reboot
[09:44] <Messelink> "Could not download the release notes" -- nay tips?
[09:44] <Flashtek> krad, define "restart"
[09:44] <fadax> Flashtek: it says "cannot remove /boot/grub/915resolution.mod - it is a read only file system"
[09:44] <Messelink> any%
[09:44] <vish> krad: $ sudo shutdown -r now
[09:44] <krad> Flashtek, to restart the OS
[09:44] <krad> there is no shutdown command
[09:44] <Flashtek> fadax, mount -o remount,rw /dev/sda
[09:44] <fadax> Braiam oh right.. i was running ubuntu on a virtual machine doe it make a difference?
[09:44] <fadax> does*
[09:44] <Dania> hey guys, i was upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 from 10.10 and the screen frozen during the update, so i restarted the pc and now i'm getting the black screen with: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) , any ideas?
[09:44] <vish> krad: $ sudo shutdown -r now ; will work, are you trying from terminal? or from GUI
[09:45] <fadax> Flashtek it says it can't find /dev/sda in fstab when i do that
[09:45] <Nando> cybrhuman: thanks it's a pleasure talking with you
[09:45] <bashelina> my latop actually runs much slower now with natty :(
[09:45] <bashelina> shouldnt it be the other way around ?
[09:45] <ouss999> 11.04 sucks
[09:45] <vish> !bug | bashelina
[09:45] <Joemama> I dont think I like this menu layout at all
[09:45] <Joemama> where the heck is the menu bar?
[09:46] <vish> bashelina: so for unity, its $ ubuntu-bug unity
[09:46] <zvacet> bashelina:  try ubuntu classic option to see is it unity related
[09:46] <vish> Joemama: its in the top panel
[09:46] <Joemama> Noes, there's a bar on the left now
[09:46] <Nando> bashelina: agree with you
[09:46] <Joemama> no more of these menus on the bars I guess
[09:47] <crims0n> zomg
[09:47] <crims0n> repositories are slow
[09:47] <crims0n> should have done a clean install xD
[09:47] <krad> (its a virtual serveR)
[09:47] <rizzuh> Do I need to do anything special to upgrade from beta 2 to final?
[09:48] <loxs> folks, I just installed gnome3. It works but the default adwaita gtk theme is not there. It's not available in gnome-tweak-tool interface tab. And as a result all is ugly (redmond theme). How can I install adwaita?
[09:48] <krad> not able to restart it!
[09:48] <Flashtek> krad, sudo shutdown -r now
[09:48] <sanderd17_> Hi there. Does anyone know where I have to file a dependancy problem for natty?
[09:49] <krad> Flashtek, no shutdown cmd
[09:49] <Flashtek> krad, init command work ?
[09:50] <rizzuh> Do I need to do anything special to upgrade from beta 2 to final, aside from upgrading packages?
[09:50] <iszak> Since installing Ubuntu 11.04 my login time (for gnome) has slowed down significantly.
[09:50] <iszak> any way to fix this?
[09:50] <sanderd17_> rizzuh: no you don't
[09:50] <incorrect1> rizzuh, nope
[09:50] <crims0n> rizzuh - I don't belive so, should be good to go
[09:50] <fadax> Flashtek it says it can't find /dev/sda in fstab when i do that
[09:50] <rizzuh> alright, thanks
[09:50] <ouss999> unity it is not stable
[09:50] <marie> hi
[09:50] <incorrect1> rizzuh, i was missing some packages
[09:50] <ouss999> we need to wait for 12.04
[09:50] <zvacet> rizzuh: justdo the updates
[09:50] <iszak> ouss999, agreed
[09:50] <rizzuh> ouss999: it seems stable
[09:50] <marie> how to get  time in hh:mi:ss  for ls -l
[09:51] <iszak> rizzuh, it's relatively stable, bit buggy on dual screens tho
[09:51] <Flashtek> fadax, how about sda1/sda2/sda3 etc..etc..
[09:51] <rizzuh> iszak: oh, haven't tried that yet.
[09:51] <corinth> Hey room. Just installed a clean copy of Natty. I seem to have no sound...and whenever I try to change the volume, it hangs on "Waiting for Sound System..." Help?
[09:51] <Sonja> is there a 101 of configuring this new left bar thingy?
[09:51] <incorrect1> once you tweak unity its create, my desktop those huge sidebar icons are so fugly unless you shrink them down
[09:51] <rizzuh> iszak: Linux support for multiple monitors has been flaky at best.
[09:51] <iszak> rizzuh, I disagree, I have had good experience with gnome.
[09:52] <Sonja> yeah unity lol
[09:52] <jatt> Sonja: it is not easily configurable
[09:52] <iszak> I have used ubuntu on dual and tri screens with no issues
[09:52] <rizzuh> I've had plenty bad with just two, let alone 3. On both AMD and NVIDIA.
[09:52] <ouss999> for me i'm using 10.04 and i will not switch to unity until 12.04 is out sorry for my english
[09:52] <iszak> rizzuh, oh yeah same here with Catalyst Control centre, but hardly linux's fault.
[09:52] <bencc> anyone managed to install natty in vbox?
[09:52] <rizzuh> iszak: even on NVIDIA.
[09:52] <incorrect1> ouss999, probably a good idea
[09:52] <bencc> I'm getting a black screen after installing guest additions
[09:52] <rizzuh> iszak: though it's mostly those companies' fault.
[09:52] <iszak> exactly.
[09:53] <incorrect1> ouss999, 11.10 should show unity being much more mature
[09:53] <eigba_> incorrect1,  Do you like unity at all? Im not sure if i do or not
[09:53] <crims0n> What are everyone's thoughts on unity?
[09:53] <ilon> oh crap..
[09:53] <SuperLag> Hmm... not sure I like Unity. It will sure take some getting used to.
[09:53] <iszak> the only good thing for me that came from 11.04 is compiz grids and refreshed versions.
[09:53] <rizzuh> Good move from old interface.
[09:53] <ilon> just upgraded, unity is.... different.
[09:53] <incorrect1> eigba_, i like the amount of screen real estate i get back
[09:53] <thodoros> problem with unity on net-book....
[09:53] <rizzuh> And finally an easy app search like on Vista/7.
[09:53] <sanderd17_> bencc: yes, followed this instructions: http://www.webupd8.org/2010/12/how-to-test-ubuntu-1104-with-unity-in.html
[09:53] <incorrect1> i like the sidebar now i've tweaked it
[09:53] <rizzuh> Start -> typing
[09:53] <jatt> eigba: -> https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/648180
[09:53] <jatt>  
[09:53] <eigba_> Unity looks ok I guess, just not sure if I like it
[09:53] <ouss999> unity is good but it will need some time to be mature
[09:54] <crims0n> is Unity gnome based?
[09:54] <zvacet> eigba_:  same here
[09:54] <SuperLag> jatt: haha, that's funny!
[09:54] <corinth> I have no sound. Altering the sound hangs a message: "Waiting for Sound System"...please help.
[09:54] <iszak> I would choose unity for netboots/laptops but definitely not my desktop and I hate that they're going to remove gnome  (easily installed tho)
[09:54] <DrManhattan> wheres the settings, preferences, administration, etc?
[09:54] <ilon> where did my taskbar go?! :<<
[09:54] <incorrect1> ilon, its on the left hand side
[09:54] <eigba_> iszak, I asked the same thing. I had to use the damn search feature
[09:54] <ilon> incorrect1: no, thats a launcherbar :(
[09:54] <eigba_> (
[09:54] <bencc> sanderd17_: I did but getting a black screen
[09:55] <Toek> ive donwloaded the linuxmint (http://www.linuxmint.com/edition.php?id=80) ISO and trying to make a bootable usb with startup disk creator. but the iso wont stick when i choose it any ideas?
[09:55] <incorrect1> ilon, all your tasks should be there
[09:55] <DrManhattan> hardly anything is there
[09:55] <zvacet> incorrect1:  how do you do it link if you have any please
[09:55] <ilon> incorrect1: so they should, but its more of a "programbar" than a taskbar
[09:55] <sanderd17_> bencc: you said you installed the guest addidtions? they dont work with unity yet
[09:55] <incorrect1> zvacet, do what customise the sidebar?
[09:56] <crims0n> so unity is not at all based on gnome?
[09:56] <iszak> Future version of Ubuntu: Gubuntu? Ubuntu for unity, Gubuntu for Gnome?
[09:56] <bencc> sanderd17_: I've installed virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms virtualbox-ose-guest-utils virtualbox-ose-guest-x11
[09:56] <DrManhattan> wheres the settings, preferences, administration, etc?
[09:56] <MJBrune> i cant get my Realteck alc272x to work with the mic, anuone?
[09:56] <jatt> crims0n: no, it is a totally new desktop environment
[09:56] <ouss999> what is the best irc client
[09:56] <incorrect1> ilon, well to me it encompasses all the same functionality, list of apps and their status
[09:56] <eigba_> Ive already farted out 2 butt turds trying to figure out if i like unity or not
[09:56] <zvacet> incorrect1:  yes I just started t ouse it so I don't know much about unity
[09:56] <jatt> crims0n: now there is gnome, kde, xfce and unity
[09:56] <incorrect1> oh wait you can't close them from the sidebar
[09:56] <incorrect1> my mistake
[09:56] <ilon> accessing setting seems to be a mess now that they arent grouped under a settingsmenu any longer.
[09:56] <ilon> incorrect1: how can i customize it?
[09:56] <Diverdude> in bash, i have variable $i, how do i concatenate it with a c in a command? so that i can do myprogram $i ['c' $i]     so if i has the value  'myfile.png'  it would be myprogram myfile.png cmyfile.png   ?
[09:56] <sanderd17_> bencc: I did use the oracle version of VB, not the OSE version
[09:57] <crims0n> ouss999 I like irssi, if you are not afraid of the console
[09:57] <Sonja> unity is pretty, but not exactly practical
[09:57] <eigba_> ilon, what I did was use the search feature to find settings then pulled it over to the lauchbar. probally not the most productive way though
[09:57] <ouss999> i will give it a try
[09:57] <eigba_> Sonja, Agreed
[09:57] <rizzuh> But seriously, can we get some configuration options for the notifications? The 10 second timeout is FAR too long, especially for IMs. And it doesn't show multiple notifications either.
[09:57] <ilon> incorrect1: problem is that since i usally have alot o windows open, the old taskbar was rather nice for me to switch between windows
[09:57] <bencc> sanderd17_: I tried both the oracle iso guest additions and ose guest additions from apt but still getting a black screen
[09:57] <incorrect1> ilon, same here
[09:57] <Sik> OK, so I tried both reinstalling the graphics driver and running dpkg off the recovery menu, either way 11.04 still won't boot properly >_< Sometimes it hangs after the login screen, sometimes it outright kicks me into a text mode terminal :/
[09:57] <zvacet> Sonja:  I'm not used to big icons
[09:58] <sanderd17_> bencc: sorry, can't help you further
[09:58] <bencc> sanderd17_: thanks
[09:58] <ilon> eigba_: what do you mean by "settings"? since ubuntu dosnt have a unified way of handeling settings..
[09:58] <eigba_> I wish they would of went with gnome 3.
[09:58] <incorrect1> to customise the sidebar you install the 'compizconfig-settings-manager' then go to the unity settings
[09:58] <iszak> Must say, a lot of back lash towards unity.. hopefully the next version will be better e.g. you can arrange icons, position the bar.
[09:58] <ilon> incorrect1: i know the concept from OS X, but it feels half done :(
[09:58] <incorrect1> you also want to turn off the 'back light' damn its so ugly with all those colours
[09:58] <ojii> is there a way to move the unity bar from the left to the right?
[09:59] <zvacet> incorrect1:  and without compiz
[09:59] <incorrect1> ilon, i agree,
[09:59] <bashelina> zvacet, im using classic,  either natty got more bloated or ubuntu discarded some drivers ??
[09:59] <jatt> ojii: no
[09:59] <incorrect1> zvacet, you are using unity 2d?
[09:59] <ilon> incorrect1: guess i have to switch to something else as usual :(
[09:59] <Sonja> i'm trying to customize/optimize the Unity bar ... i don't need the workspace switcher
[09:59] <incorrect1> i do not know why unity was pushed out so early
[09:59] <eigba_> well there are several desktop managers most or very old, maybe this unity can progress?
[09:59] <eigba_> are*
[09:59] <knick> Hi guys - Just downloaded and burned ubuntu 11.04 - Tried it on 2 different Lenovo 3000 N200 notebooks but on both it won't start
[09:59] <knick> I get a mount error and get thrown into busybox
[10:00] <ilon> incorrect1: yeah, seems too early, shouldve came as optional for another few months
[10:00] <incorrect1> ilon, i bet in a week i will get irritated and go back to gnome2 or find a unity ppa
[10:00] <zvacet> incorrect1:  well,I don't know and I can not check because I'm not on ubuntu right now
[10:00] <pisahmet> hi
[10:00] <ojii> jatt, that's pretty bad... I have a 4 screen (two notebooks) setup, and now I have the bar in the middle on the right pair.... and it's hard to activate it since i use synergy and the mouse just moves to the left pair...
[10:00] <Diverdude> where is gs installed in ubuntu?
[10:00] <ilon> incorrect1: i'll probably just switch back to XFCE / FFWM again
[10:00] <incorrect1> my biggest irritation so far is the 2x2 virtual desktop
[10:01] <zvacet> bashelina:  I can be both I don't know
[10:01] <jatt> ojii: you can use gnome, choose it from the login window
[10:01] <incorrect1> i am used to gnome2 1x4 arrangement
[10:01] <om26er> incorrect1, try in ccsm
[10:01] <incorrect1> ilon, 11.10 will see it mature
[10:01] <ojii> jatt, but other than that I like unity :(
[10:01] <ilon> incorrect1: yeah, i can only imagine how bad that would be on my workstation at home with 3x2 physical monitors
[10:01] <incorrect1> om26er, i've already done all i want with ccsm
[10:01] <Sonja> i always used 1x1  :)
[10:01] <om26er> Sonja, ;)
[10:02] <marie> knick:  I am  not aware much updates these days, is ubunt 11.04 desktop version is available ?
[10:02] <ilon> oh well, gonna switch WM, brb
[10:02] <tomasz> marie yes
[10:02] <knick> marie: Yes it is, it was released yesterday.
[10:02] <Hoyt> possible to remove unity totally and switch back to old interfaces ?
[10:02] <jatt> yes
[10:02] <Sonja> hoyt i'm considering that too
[10:02] <tomasz> marie when you log to ubuntu you change desktop or netbook
[10:02] <corinth> I have no sound. Altering the sound hangs a message: "Waiting for Sound System"...please help.
[10:02] <Hoyt> unity is really bad for me
[10:03] <rzx237> can I run wget through tor proxy?
[10:03] <crims0n> meh... considering moving to arch
[10:03] <iszak> rzx237, check the manual page
[10:03] <pisahmet> i have upgraded my maverick to 11.04, but i have a big problem. it doesn't start with new kernel (2.6.38), it looks like a xorg problem. but it works well with old kernel (2.6.35) pc specs >> amd athlon x2 5200+, asus m2a-vm, ocz 2 gb ddr2 800 mhz ram and palit sonic gts 450
[10:03] <dfs> i'm installing 11.04 right now to take a look on this unity heh
[10:03] <kavurt> how can i install unity in kubuntu? what's the package name?
[10:04] <Sonja> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/our-complete-guide-to-unity-in-ubuntu-11-04/
[10:04] <tomasz> kavurt,  better install kde on ubuntu ;)
[10:04] <ilon> much beter.
[10:04] <decoder> im getting frequent kernel panic/freezes since upgrade from natty alpha to natty stable
[10:04] <decoder> :(
[10:04] <iszak> kavurt, sudo apt-get install unity
[10:04] <decoder> twice today already
[10:05] <iszak> yeah that kernal better panic with unity on it's system
[10:05] <genupulas> !file encryption
[10:05] <iszak> right I'm out, later.
[10:06] <tomtit> morning all
[10:06] <dfs> morning
[10:06] <zelhar> Hello. I started an upgrade and it is now on the "getting new package" stage. Is it safe to cancel the upgrade because the download speed is too slow and I want to find a better server ?
[10:06] <ilon> unity still have to mature some before i would consider to use it
[10:07] <ouss999> ilon, i agree
[10:07] <corinth> zelhar, Yes
[10:07] <jatt> zelhar: I think it is safe while it's downloading packages
[10:07] <jatt> zelhar: but once it starts to install/configure if you abort it can get messy
[10:07] <ouss999> jatt, i agree
[10:08] <zelhar> I see
[10:08] <ilon> ouss999: or maybe ubuntu needs to mature.. still no unified place for settings :(
[10:08] <ibqn> is 11.04 lts?
[10:08] <zelhar> well then I guess I am gonna try this
[10:08] <ouss999> ibqn, no
[10:08] <vox> ok, how do i remove unity and go back to the standard desktop?
[10:08] <genupulas> ! Encryption
[10:09] <Sterist> is there a command to empty the swap contents back into physical ram?
[10:09] <azatoth_work> is it possible to open multiple terminals in natty?
[10:09] <ilon> vox: just choose "classic ubuntu" from the login
[10:09] <DrManhattan> you know, I dont think im happy at all with this gui layout
[10:09] <vox> ilon: orad
[10:09] <DrManhattan> there's no easy way to get to the things I like
[10:10] <Sonja> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-04/   item #6
[10:10] <DrManhattan> especially system preferences and the such
[10:10] <vox> DrManhattan: it'd be great on a tablet
[10:10] <jatt> you can switch back to classic gnome
[10:10] <ilon> jatt: just choose "classic ubuntu" from the login
[10:10] <rzx237> yes thanks guys, now I can running wget through tor proxy, just need to read the manual for a while.
[10:10] <ndxtg> what is ubuntu offtopi channel?
[10:10] <Sonja> we need an #ihateunity :)
[10:11] <knick> So anyone else had problems starting the live-cd of Ubuntu 11.04?
[10:11] <fadax> Flashtek i tried dev/sda1 up to 10 and it said the same thing for all of them
[10:12] <DrManhattan> how do I change the login type if I have the system set to log in automatically
[10:13] <vox> hm i have no option to change it at log in
[10:14] <vox> ahh nm
[10:14] <vox> found it
[10:15] <green_> on this upgrade glxgears work but compiz won't any ideas?
[10:16] <tomasz> glxgears how mony fps ?
[10:17] <yi`zhi> i have made peace with zeitgeist...for now -_-
[10:17] <ilon> vox: sorry, forgot to say you have to click your name in the list first.
[10:18] <Sik> I updated to 11.04 using the updater and it won't boot properly now. Sometimes it (or the X Server?) hangs after the login screen, sometimes it outright kicks me into the terminal. I can only boot using safe mode in the recovery kernel :/ Help?
[10:18] <vox> ilon: all good
[10:19] <Asad2005> Can someone help me upgrade, i am getting Error authenticating tzdata and tzdata-java
[10:19] <Juanatas> hello can someone help me... I just installed the latest Ubuntu and my wireless card is not being detected... Help me please... I installed it on on acer aspireone laptop...
[10:19] <ilon> vox: we just have to wait for unity to grow up and move out i gues.
[10:19] <Asad2005> from amd64 10.10 to 11.04
[10:19] <Phylock> anyone know of a good guide to unity?? how to start using it?? is i possible to customize it??
[10:20] <vox> ilon: eh i can see some people finding it very useful
[10:20] <yi`zhi> Phylock, i'm looking into it myself
[10:20] <vox> it just doesnt suit my needs
[10:20] <Phylock> :)
[10:20] <Tetsuo55> hello, how do i enable the weather info next to the clock in unity???
[10:20] <tomasz> Sik ?
[10:20] <DrManhattan> how do I change the login type if I have the system set to log in automatically?
[10:21] <BossHog> .
[10:21] <yi`zhi> anyone know how i can display bandwidth usage and system resources at the top in narwhal?
[10:21] <Sik> tomasz: well, I just want Ubuntu to boot properly (and with the real graphics drivers) >_>
[10:21] <ilon> vox: sure, if your on a tablet / phone, then it probably is nice
[10:22] <incorrect1> i love some of the great wm theme designs, i love the fact that someone thought it would be a great idea to but a tab in the bottom right to cover up part of the app
[10:22] <Psychobudgie> yi`zhi, you can't as far as I'm aware
[10:22] <incorrect1> so useful hiding firebug from me
[10:22] <listpi> how to install udisks utility in ubuntu 9.10
[10:22] <jatt> Tetsuo55: you can't. there are no applets in unity
[10:23] <Tetsuo55> jatt: :(((((
[10:23] <Asad2005> Can someone help me upgrade, i am getting Error authenticating tzdata and tzdata-java
[10:23] <jatt> Tetsuo55: I know. canonical claims nobody uses applets :(
[10:24] <ilon> incorrect1: irony, worthless on the internet since -90s
[10:24] <thatcode> Hi. I've just upgraded to 11.04. I have a multi-monitor set up. The hardware seems to think my right hand monitor is the primary (it's on VGA, the left hand is on DVI). This is causing problems when I boot with both monitors. The Application bar appears on the left side of the right monitor, which really screws things up, my graphics go on my right monitor, and I don't get any bars to launch programs or even shut down.
[10:24] <ddddddddddd> a question
[10:24] <ddddddddddd> i need reinstall, should i take 11.04 or 10.04
[10:24] <thatcode> Any ideas how to get it to put the bar in the correct place?
[10:25] <jatt> thatcode: you can't the bar position is not configurable in unity
[10:25] <Tetsuo55> jatt:  thats insande, the built-in weather is one of the best things about the ubuntu default clock
[10:25] <incorrect1> ilon, i don't have any milk for my coffee this morning
[10:25] <ddddddddddd> a question
[10:25] <ddddddddddd> i need reinstall, should i take 11.04 or 10.04
[10:25] <jatt> Tetsuo55: I agree I use that applet too
[10:25] <KNUBBIG> good morning everyone :)
[10:25] <swordz> jatt, So basically, I can't use my second screen?
[10:25] <swordz> I don't believe that
[10:25] <jatt> swordz: you can switch back to the classical interface
[10:25] <Phylock> thatcode: same setup, same problem here :d
[10:25] <ChristianAdamski> Hi, 11.04 Gnome2: Nautilus is opening my ftp-Bookmarks with Firefox, despite me changing the url-handler to nautilus and rebooting?
[10:26] <jatt> swordz: it's true there is no way to configure the bar position in unity
[10:26] <ilon> incorrect1: you can take some of mine, my coffe allmost came in return this morning :(
[10:26] <KNUBBIG> you can use two displays with displays?
[10:26] <swordz> jatt, I want the bar on the left
[10:26] <KNUBBIG> I do it
[10:26] <swordz> I just want Ubuntu to pick the other screen
[10:26] <swordz> That's a lower level than Unity
[10:26] <knick> swordz: use xrandr
[10:27] <swordz> It's X that's getting this wrong, not Unity (imo)
[10:27] <KNUBBIG> oh I'm not rly awoken, I type crap. I meant you can use it with Unity :)
[10:27] <paddy_> I have an i7 processor which is not loaded much at all during disk writes but my 3-disk raid-5 array write speed is 30mb's whereas its read is 2oomb's
[10:27] <yi`zhi> ok i got an interesting problem. i use the windows key (Super L) as a shortcut for terminal. it also happens to be the shortcut for narwhal's dash. i tried changing the shortcut for narwhal dash to CTRL+SuperL but then terminal doesn't pop up anymore. when i hit SuperL, BOTH dash and terminal pop up.
[10:27] <Tetsuo55> jatt: did we lose the battery too?
[10:28] <ddddddddddd> yesit was an example
[10:28] <ddddddddddd> but ccpd dont it
[10:28] <ddddddddddd> i need reinstall, should i take 11.04 or 10.04
[10:28] <knick> ddddddddddd: best to stay up to date
[10:28] <ddddddddddd> ok
[10:28] <jatt> Tetsuo55: I think they still have it
[10:28] <knick> lol
[10:29] <jatt> Tetsuo55: but things like the system monitor applet are gone
[10:29] <_ruben> paddy_: that's a common issue with raid5
[10:29] <paddy_> _ruben even with a fast processor?
[10:29] <_ruben> paddy_: yes, the disks are the limiting factor
[10:30] <quick_nick> ddddddddddd: i have both and prefer 10.04 over 11.04 right now.  been having bug problems with 11.04.  my biggest issue is shutdown problems were introduced with the upgrade on an ati video card machine
[10:30] <paddy_> _ruben how so, is it their seek time?
[10:30] <greentea> new ubuntu good?
[10:30] <paddy_> greentea: FANTASTIC
[10:30] <knick> doesnt boot for me
[10:30] <yi`zhi> it's okay. minus zeitgeist
[10:31] <knick> I get mount errors when I try to start the live cd
[10:31] <bangLUCE> hi. how can I make a non-root program open port 80 ?
[10:31] <paddy_> oh you must disable twinview before uppgrading if you are using it
[10:31] <knick> bangLUCE: use iptables to forward
[10:31] <knick> Though that iptables command must be run as root
[10:31] <_ruben> paddy_: with raid5 over 3 disks, the read actions are nicely spread over all 3 disks, the writes however results writes on 2 or even 3 disks simultaneously: not much performance gain over a single disk
[10:31] <Guest90444> HI, can I upgrade from 10 to 11 from an ISO?
[10:31] <paddy_> bangLUCE: if you do not have root permissions you cant
[10:32] <yi`zhi> so... since i can't change the shortcut key for terminal in control center > keyboard shortcuts, how do i do it using the terminal?
[10:32] <knick> bangLUCE: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port <otherport>
[10:32] <mbrochh> what is the name of that fancy new desktop that comes with 11.04?
[10:32] <mbrochh> is it unity?
[10:32] <lupzz> is wayland supposed to be adopted by ubuntu 11.10?
[10:32] <paddy_> _ruben what can i do increase the speed?
[10:32] <_ruben> paddy_: more disks ;)
[10:32] <jatt> mbrochh: yes, unity
[10:33] <paddy_> _ruben, so if i add another disk to the raid 5 array it will be faster on the writes?
[10:33] <_ruben> paddy_: though write performance will never be really great with raid5, if you want both read and write performance, go for raid10
[10:33] <mbrochh> does anybody know if it is possible to enjoy unity when running ubuntu on a virtualbox?
[10:33] <mbrochh> i can't seem to be able to activate it
[10:33] <bangLUCE> knick: thanks. and how can I remove that rule, when I want?
[10:33] <DrManhattan> how do I change the login type if I have the system set to log in automatically?
[10:34] <paddy_> mbrochh: i have tried that for hours and could not get it to work
[10:34] <mbrochh> paddy_, damn
[10:34] <DrManhattan> Im trying to switch to classic gnome
[10:34] <knick> bangLUCE: change -A PRE.. to -D PRE..
[10:34] <Psychobudgie> mbrochh, I'm having trouble enjoying it full stop
[10:34] <_ruben> paddy_: it also highly depends on your io patterns
[10:34] <paddy_> Psychobudgie: whats not to like?
[10:34] <Maddogm> mbrochh, must be using virtualbox 4.0.6
[10:35] <bangLUCE> knick:  iptables -t nat -D PREROUTING -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-port <otherport> ?
[10:35] <knick> bangLUCE: yup
[10:35] <_ruben> paddy_: the real performance gains with raid5 are when using a hardware raid controller with a battery backed write chache
[10:35] <_ruben> cache
[10:35] <mbrochh> Maddogm, i am using latest virtualbox 4.0.6 - any special settings to do to get it working?
[10:35] <mfraz74> Upgraded my netbook to 11.04 this week and now whenever I use rsync to sync my files over a wireless connection, the connection keeps dropping
[10:35] <lupzz> anyone knows if wayland is supposed to be adopted by ubuntu 11.10?
[10:35] <_ruben> paddy_: or use SSDs ;)
[10:35] <paddy_> _ruben i have a ssd can i use that as  a cache,  how do i use a cache?
[10:36] <petey> mbrochh, I had to reinstall the 4.0.6 guest additions to get unity to work and enable 3D acceleration in the settings
[10:36] <gare> DrManhattan:  the easiest way I found to switch from 11.04 to classic gnome is to install kubuntu-desktop, and select kdm as the default .  This gives options of different desktops ...
[10:36] <DrManhattan> thats ridiculous, there's got to be an easier way
[10:36] <_ruben> paddy_: only highend hardware raid controllers can use ssds as cache (and you'd need an enterprise class ssd for that as well), zfs can use ssds as cache as well though
[10:37] <gare> well, please let me know ..
[10:37] <paddy_> _ruben: what about lvm
[10:37] <_ruben> paddy_: wont make a difference afaik
[10:37] <gare> what happens when you remove default desktop file from /x11 ?
[10:38] <_ruben> paddy_: when write performance is needed, one usually just doesnt use raid5 :)
[10:38] <Maddogm> mbrochh, what petey said, plus you may need to adjust the memory quantities (check video especially)
[10:38] <paddy_> what is the best way to use a ssd as a raid 5 cache?
[10:38] <mbrochh> Maddogm, working on it...
[10:38] <mbrochh> Maddogm, it worked! great!
[10:38] <paddy_> _ruben: do you think i should buy an other disk and switch to raid10?
[10:38] <josefrichter> guys, tried to update Ubuntu under VirtualBox and now getting error: environment block too small - what does that mean please?
[10:38] <mbrochh> petey, Maddogm thanks for your help
[10:39] <debd> josefrichter: may be your virtual HDD size is too small for that
[10:39] <_ruben> paddy_: it all comes down to your needs/wishes/wallet basically, but raid10 is quite likely to give you much better write performance than raid5
[10:39] <petey> mbrochh, no probs - obviously unity doesn't work so well unless you fullscreen it unless you disable the auto-hide
[10:39] <gare> DrManhattan:  perhaps take a look at this file:  /etc/init/gdm.conf
[10:40] <paddy_> dualscreen unity works really well
[10:41] <Rehan> wow that was a complete disappointment. 11.04 install fails during install and freezes up about 5 minutes before being completely finished over and over again.
[10:41] <DrManhattan> thanks
[10:42] <beekor> I been reading a bit about app indicators and ppa's and shit.
[10:42] <thegoodcushion> Hi everyone.  My HP Deskjet 2000 works in Windows 7 and OS X perfectly.  But I can't get it to work on Ubuntu 10.04 32-bit.  Ubuntu thinks that it's printing, and the powerlight flashes as though the printer's thinking, but no output comes out.  Any ideas?
[10:42] <beekor> hmm.
[10:42] <beekor> it may take a long while, cushion.
[10:42] <beekor> like minutes.
[10:42] <thegoodcushion> beekor: even though it doesn't under OS X/Windows?
[10:42] <beekor> i get that sometimes printing pdfs.
[10:43] <beekor> yeah.
[10:43] <thegoodcushion> okay... I'll test it again and give it a few minutes
[10:43] <beekor> if it's flashing, you most likely have something coming to the printer eventually.
[10:47] <Vustom> -.-'
[10:47] <bencc> can I use unity with 2d?
[10:47] <bin_bash> Hello. I can't get the internal mic working. 11.04 on MBP 8,1 running xfce
[10:47] <mtlife> hey how can i install unity on an 11.04 box without gnome installed previously? I tried apt-get install unity, which worked fine downloaded a few packages but no unity (only a desktop no menu or launcher bar)
[10:47] <Soothsayer> my dual monitors are not being detected
[10:47] <Rehan> bencc: nope, it requires compiz, which requires 3D acceleration
[10:47] <Soothsayer> I have an XFX 9600 GT
[10:47] <paddy_> bencc yes
[10:47] <Soothsayer> and once I installed ubuntu, it gave me the drivers prompt.. and I installed the driver from there.
[10:48] <Soothsayer> It's got the resolution right, but I don't see the second monitor being detected
[10:48] <paddy_> bencc there is a package that lets you
[10:48] <bencc> paddy_:  how? I have problems with 3d when natty is in vbox?
[10:48] <Feyisayo1> I want to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04. Can I do that If I have the ISO of 11.04 already downloaded?
[10:48] <bencc> paddy_:  what package?>
[10:48] <beekor> yeah, i have dual monitor issues too.
[10:48] <paddy_> bencc search for unity 2d in software center
[10:48] <Soothsayer> Feyisayo1: do you have 32bit or 64bit ?
[10:48] <bencc> paddy_: thanks. did you try it. does it work ok?
[10:49] <kandinski> I am having a weird interaction between irssi/gnome-terminal/natty: alt-w, which before upgrading to natty took me to the 12th irssi screen, on gnome terminal selects all text in the terminal, despite alt-w not being listed as a keyboard shortcut either on gnome-terminal or on gnome
[10:49] <Feyisayo1> I think it's 64-bit. I run AMD Athlon X2
[10:49] <BlouBlou> I am having a problem with ubuntu. It says I have NVidia GeForce 5500 FX drivers 'enabled', but they aren't being used. How to fix it? I want to use them, but there isn't any option to do that
[10:49] <kandinski> any idea what it can be?
[10:49] <Soothsayer> Feyisayo1: hmm no, then you have to use the internet update method. I've been trying it too.
[10:49] <paddy_> To everyone who has had difficulty using dual monitors! You must not use twinview, it will make compiz segfault
[10:49] <Soothsayer> paddy_: I'm not using anything.. just installed a fresh copy
[10:49] <haseeb> hi, i am having resolution problem after installing nvidia 7300GS drivers !! help plz
[10:49] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: I see
[10:50] <beekor> Any ideas how to get my monitors to detect themselves in the Monitors program ?
[10:50] <paddy_> Soothsayer: backup /etc/X11/xorg.conf then delete it, log in again
[10:50] <thegoodcushion> beekor: about my printing problems - I just tested it again.  When I send the thing to the printer, the power button goes fully bright like it just woke up.  It doesn't flash.  It's not printing.  But Ubuntu says "Idle - Finished page 1".  Any ideas?
[10:50] <beekor> one issue has been those becoming unknown.  and I'm not sure where they're located.
[10:50] <gare> DrManhattan: 1st aspect of your question -- To ask for password on login , go to Users , select your user, and then Change password.  Uncheck 'Don't ask for password on login'.
[10:51] <Vustom> So here's my problem, I have a 500GB HDD, and at first I only had Windows on it, then I installed Ubuntu 10.10 a few months ago and had both OS's side-by-side, and I used the Windows (HP) Recovery Manager today to reformat my HDD so I started clean with a fresh install of Windows and a 500GB HDD, and was planning on installing Ubuntu 11.4 side-by-side with Windows again, but when I reformatted it only reformatted the 250GB's of the W
[10:51] <Soothsayer> paddy_: I have an XFX 9600 GT.. it prompted me to install some NVIDIA accelerated graphics drivers (recommended)
[10:51] <Vustom> Windows and Ubuntu 11.4 on the other 250GB HDD, how do I fix this...?
[10:51] <Soothsayer> (version current)
[10:51] <beekor> hmmm, not sure cushion.  is it usb or parallel ?
[10:51] <thegoodcushion> beekor: USB
[10:51] <djdb> Hi! Ubuntu 11.04 server requires firmware for my hardware (qlogic FC, 10g broadcom ethernet). Where can I find it? Ubuntu installer wants CD with this files...
[10:51] <Soothsayer> "This driver is activated but not currently in use."
[10:51] <Soothsayer> why is it saying that?
[10:51] <DrManhattan> gare - thank you
[10:51] <paddy_> Soothsayer: install them, if it does not work do what i said befire
[10:52] <knick> Vustom: when you install Ubuntu on windows (dual boot) in the installer wizard you'll receive a slider to slide the sizes of the harddisks, there you can change the partition sizes
[10:52] <paddy_> Soothsayer: try and find an option to enable it
[10:52] <haseeb> UBUNTU 11.04 low resolution problem after installing nvidia drivers!!! fix please???
[10:52] <beekor> not sure, cushion.  Does it detect as the correct printer model ?
[10:52] <knick> Vustom: It's not really 'obvious' but it shows the windows and ubuntu partition in a window and you can slide it..
[10:52] <gare> glad could help
[10:52] <thegoodcushion> beekor: Is there some driver other than the default CUPS driver that comes with Ubuntu?  It's a HP Deskjet 2000.  Yes it detects as the right model
[10:52] <Vustom> knick, I tried that but only had the option of 250GB's, which is how much space I gave the Windows partion last time..
[10:52] <Soothsayer> paddy_: there is no such option
[10:52] <beekor> hmm, not that i know of, cushion.
[10:52] <paddy_> brb if anyone wants to mssg me pm me, do it doesnt get lost
[10:52] <Feyisayo1> I made a USB startup disk of 10.10 (32-bit) and gave to a friend to install with his Windows using WUBI. He says during the installation WUBI tried to download another ISO. He running Intel core 2 duo. Did I give the right thing?
[10:52] <knick> Vustom: Hmm, you might have partitioned it before? I'm not sure how to do that manually though
[10:53] <Vustom> It's like the reformat only reformatted the Windows partion and not the Ubuntu as well.
[10:53] <Vustom> I did...
[10:53] <mtlife> Hey i get "Xsession: unsupported number of arguments (2): falling back to default session" when i try and launch unity... it doesnt complain about lack of 3d though (i have nvidia drivers installed)
[10:53] <staff_nowa> hi in ubuntu 10.10 i have nvidia 9300m gs and monitor work with 60ghz, but then update to 11.04 now my nvidia don't detect and get 50ghz, how resolve problem ?
[10:53] <BlouBlou> I am having a problem with ubuntu. It says I have NVidia GeForce 5500 FX drivers 'enabled', but they aren't being used. How to fix it? I want to use them, but there isn't any option to do that
[10:53] <Soothsayer> paddy_: should I try installing the other one?
[10:54] <Soothsayer> and then do what you suggested?
[10:54] <bin_bash> Does anyone have any tips to get the internal microphone working on natty? I'm running xfce, which shouldn't matter. it worked fine in gnome
[10:54] <BlouBlou> people only answers easy questions, I don't know why are too many people here
[10:54] <haseeb> can anyone help with low resolution problem????? pleeease??
[10:54] <beekor> well, people only answer questions they know, i'd hope.
[10:54] <bin_bash> !ask | haseeb
[10:55] <mbrochh]2> hmm... when using ubuntu with virtualbox 4.0.6 and swtichting to the scaled mode (CTRL+C) i have a black bar at the bottom... the desktop doesnt seem to scale correctly and the mouse pointer seems to be at an invisible position a few pixels above the actual visible mouse cursor
[10:55] <samic> I'm using 11.04 but classic and my notification area doesn't show stardict and pidgin icon (it shows transmission and dropbox though!)
[10:55] <haseeb> i installed my 7300gs nvidia drivers and it gives very low resolution
[10:55] <BlouBlou> well, indeed, how to enable ' *not* install ' nvidia drivers?
[10:56] <BlouBlou> samic: Go to Pidgin config and change config in it, enable it to appear in gnome-bar
[10:56] <nyso> hi there
[10:56] <haseeb> bin_bash: heyy
[10:56] <samic> BlouBlou: I have checked it to show but nothing!
[10:57] <nyso> is there a way to setup the youtube plugin for totem to have always the highest quality?
[10:57] <petey> mbrochh, I had some similar problems I think when switching out of seamless mode, changing to the scale mode a few times seemed to sort it out
[10:57] <Soothsayer> why can't I just download the drivers from the official website?
[10:57] <Soothsayer> http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-display-amd64-270.41.06-driver.html
[10:57] <BlouBlou> nyso: Actually not
[10:57] <jiltdil> hi i am on 64bit ubuntu 11.04 i have installed adobe flash player but still video in youtube is saying install missing plugin when i click to install it there are nothing to install.How to insatll it
[10:57] <genupulas> nyso:  i think some plugins we are goign to have in browser to get max quality of vedio
[10:57] <nyso> BlouBlou: thx :/
[10:58] <BlouBlou> Soothsayer: We are not nvidia-web admins, no idea
[10:58] <genupulas> totem is just a player nyso
[10:58] <jiltdil> any idea?
[10:58] <BlouBlou> jiltdil: Go to synaptic and search 'flash', install the -nonfree one
[10:58] <nyso> genupulas: well, but with the ability to play youtube videos per plugin
[10:58] <thomas8> jiltdil: search for Flash in about:plugins of your browser
[10:58] <jiltdil> ok
[10:59] <genupulas> jiltdil:  close the browser while installing
[10:59] <jiltdil> thanks
[10:59] <BlouBlou> genger: there is no need, just restart when installation finishes and done
[10:59] <nyso> other question, is there a way in empathy to hide chanserv messages?
[10:59] <BlouBlou> err
[10:59] <genger> hehe
[10:59] <BlouBlou> genupulas: ^
[11:00] <Black_Phantom> Hey, how much space do I need on a usb stick in order to install Ubuntu on it ?
[11:00] <DamienCassou1> it is me or is Unity still buggy?
[11:00] <bin_bash> unity is buggy.
[11:00] <genupulas> BlouBlou:  k cool
[11:00] <jiltdil> in synpatic i have seen already installed flash-plugib-installer
[11:00] <genupulas> BlouBlou:  yeah
[11:00] <BlouBlou> Black_Phantom: I _think_ 1GB at least
[11:00] <thomas8> bin_bash: true, it is very buggy I think
[11:00] <Black_Phantom> I have a 1 GB usb.
[11:00] <DamienCassou1> bin_bash: ok, thank you. What do people do? Do you use the classic version?
[11:01] <Black_Phantom> Will that work ?
[11:01] <deeeed> hi
[11:01] <deeeed> anybody is using ubuntu on macos ?
[11:01] <deeeed> I just want to make sure all the drivers are working fine
[11:01] <nyso> hm?
[11:01] <DamienCassou1> deeeed: what do you mean exactly?
[11:01] <bin_bash> DamienCassou1: No, I use xfce
[11:01] <nyso> you mean in a macbook?
[11:01] <deeeed> Damianz, my mistake I meant on macbookpro
[11:01] <deeeed> not mac os
[11:01] <iceroot> deeeed: macos is an os you cant run ubuntu on that
[11:02] <jodlajodla> hello, i have installed 11.04, and all things work, but sometimes mouse pointer lagg - is this unity bug or it's something wrong with ATI drivers?
[11:02] <bin_bash> deeeed: which mac?
[11:02] <iceroot> !mac | deeeed
[11:02] <DamienCassou> deeeed: I installed ubuntu on several mac books
[11:02] <bin_bash> deeeed: Which macbook pro
[11:02] <thomas8> Black_Phantom: you'll need 4 Go at least I think
[11:02] <deeeed> DamienCassou, did everything worked fine ?
[11:02] <Black_Phantom> hmm
[11:03] <DamienCassou> deeeed: 99% of the time I was satisfied
[11:03] <bin_bash> deeeed: I have to know exactly which macbook pro
[11:03] <deeeed> bin_bash, ModelIdentifier: MacBookPro 5,4
[11:03] <DamienCassou> deeeed: but sometimes I had to reboot due to a suspend/resume problem
[11:03] <bin_bash> deeeed: yeah it should work fine.
[11:03] <jodlajodla> hello, i have installed 11.04, and all things work, but sometimes mouse pointer lagg - is this unity bug or it's something wrong with ATI drivers?
[11:03] <deeeed> I just can't get used to mac os
[11:03] <Soothsayer> this driver is activated but not currently in use again!
[11:03] <Soothsayer> paddy_: there?
[11:04] <deeeed> I have been on linux for over a decade
[11:04] <DamienCassou> deeeed: also, it took me some time to configure the touchpad properly
[11:04] <ChristianAdamski> Hi, gnome-open ftp://test opens in FF4, ignoring url-handlers. Help!??
[11:04] <deeeed> miss my gnome too much
[11:04] <DamienCassou> deeeed: same thing here. No problem, this will work
[11:04] <DamienCassou> deeeed: try to follow the tutorial on community.ubuntu.com
[11:04] <deeeed> ok great I will try to install it then I just don't want to waste time if I have to switch back later
[11:05] <DamienCassou> deeeed: there are also some manipulations to do if you want to read/write your mac os x partition
[11:05] <DamienCassou> deeeed: and do *not* remove mac os x. Your hard disk drive is certainly big enough to have both
[11:05] <ruan> is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop after installing kubuntu?
[11:05] <jodlajodla> how to set 5.1 on ubuntu 10.10/11.04, because i changed deamon.conf to lfe-remixing=yes and 6 channels, but still don't work -.-" What can i do?
[11:05] <Soothsayer> how do I give natty admin privileges?
[11:05] <deeeed> I will just resize the original partition first
[11:05] <bin_bash> DamienCassou: He shouldn't have to do anything like that. I can read/write ti my os x partiton out of the box
[11:05] <Soothsayer> I want to delete a file in the /etc directory
[11:05] <ruan> !root
[11:06] <DamienCassou> I have to leave
[11:06] <DamienCassou> bye
[11:06] <ruan> Soothsayer: sudo rm /etc/[file] but be careful
[11:06] <riz0n> hey guys, I am trying to set up freeradius atop ubuntu. is there a way to integrate the username/password to use the already existing username and passwords?
[11:07] <Soothsayer> ok deleted xorg.conf
[11:07] <Soothsayer> re-logging in
[11:08] <ruan> is it safe to remove gnome completely after installing kubuntu?
[11:09] <thegoodcushion> beekor: mate just FYI http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742745
[11:09] <Soothsayer> damn it
[11:09] <Soothsayer> not detecting the second monitor!
[11:10] <Soothsayer> and both drivers are activated but not currently in use
[11:10] <thegoodcushion> you know, one day, Soothsayer, computers will just work
[11:10] <thegoodcushion> You don't need to know anything about mechanics to be able to drive a car
[11:10] <daxroc> Morning all
[11:11] <genupulas> daxroc:  evening here
[11:11] <Soothsayer> paddy_: you around ?
[11:11] <Feyisayo1> I can't get a Huawei USB modem for MTN Nigeria to connect. Can anyone help?
[11:11] <casey> anyone having trouble booting natty after updating from 10.10?
[11:11] <daxroc> After upgrading to 11.04, Having lots of problems with the desktop. and nvidia twinview is not working at all
[11:11] <Soothsayer> what is twinview?
[11:12] <Soothsayer> dual monitor ?
[11:12] <daxroc> The desktop has no compiz enabled so theres no side or top bar anymore ? How do I restart them ?
[11:12] <genupulas> casey: u need to make a look at ubuntuforums.org many users posted the same problem . i dont know solved or not
[11:12] <daxroc> Soothsayer: yeah dual head
[11:12] <Soothsayer> daxroc: even im trying to get dual monitor working here
[11:12] <Soothsayer> What graphics card?
[11:12] <casey> genupulas: Thank you but I haven't found an answer yet. Just wondering if anyone knows a solution.
[11:12] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: It seems one can upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 using and ISO. See http://ubuntuguide.net/4-ways-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhalonlineoffline
[11:13] <BlouBlou> daxroc: just top bar or both dissapeared?
[11:13] <daxroc> BlouBlou: Both
[11:13] <daxroc> Soothsayer: Quadro NVS 295
[11:13] <Soothsayer> Feyisayo1: "if you have a Ubuntu installed on machine there’s an upgrade option in the installation guide"
[11:13] <genupulas> casey:  soon u will
[11:13] <Soothsayer> you won't get that screen on a 64-bit, at least myself and a few other people didn't
[11:14] <casey> gebupulas: lol are you saying ubuntu will come out with a fix?
[11:14] <BlouBlou> daxroc: Go to GDM menu (in which you select user) and click on your user. After that select in a small box "classic-session" and join in your session.
[11:14] <Soothsayer> daxroc: im trying on an XFX 9600 GT
[11:14] <Soothsayer> there is an official linux 64 bit driver on the website, would that help ?
[11:14] <Rehan> Soothsayer: whats the prob you're having with your nvidia card? I'm having major issues too
[11:15] <Soothsayer> Feyisayo1: read the comments on this post
[11:15] <Soothsayer> http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/04/how-to-upgrade-to-ubuntu-1104-natty.html#comment-193736625
[11:15] <Soothsayer> the first thread of comments
[11:15] <casey> anyone having trouble booting natty after updating from 10.10?
[11:15] <Soothsayer> Rehan: well dual monitor
[11:15] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: ok I will
[11:15] <genupulas> casey: many
[11:15] <Soothsayer> I'm not even sure if my graphics card is detected
[11:15] <Soothsayer> though my monitor is running at full resolution - 1440 x 900
[11:15] <casey> genupulad: many what?
[11:15] <BlouBlou> casey: botthing not, but yes with Unity
[11:15] <casey> *genupulas
[11:15] <Soothsayer> and unite is working
[11:15] <BlouBlou> booting
[11:15] <Soothsayer> unity*
[11:15] <Rehan> Soothsayer: ah ok
[11:16] <BlouBlou> Soothsayer: Well, not for me
[11:16] <casey> BlouBlou: please explain
[11:16] <BlouBlou> I'm using classic-desktop
[11:16] <ruan> kde here
[11:16] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: There are no comments in the post. What URL are you reading?
[11:16] <BlouBlou> casey: Unity doesn't work, and gnome-bars doesn't appear, so I have to use classic-desktop
[11:16] <futbolbuntu> hi. ubuntu software center closes when i open it. how would i run it from command line so i can see what's wrong with it
[11:16] <Rehan> Soothsayer: i keep having 11.04 crash on install due to my nvidia 330GT
[11:16] <Soothsayer> Feyisayo1: the one i linked you to.
[11:16] <casey> BlouBlou: How depressing. Any word on if Ubuntu is fixing it?
[11:17] <BlouBlou> casey: I don't know, I hope they'll do soon
[11:17] <genupulas> casey:  cool about my nick . after getting upgrade to 11.04 many people have many problems . . . just make a look at ubuntuforums.org . any one solution can make u happy . post ur's problem there
[11:17] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: Sorry. I didn't see that.
[11:17] <casey> BlouBlou: same here. Thanks for the help.
[11:17] <tuxx-> futbolbuntu: run it from a terminal, that will probably display some erros.
[11:17] <incorrect1> how annoying, if skype is docked you click it, it loads another skype
[11:17] <reena_> how much memory is required to run the webkit based browser???any help plz
[11:17] <incorrect1> it doesn't just focus the existing
[11:17] <casey> genupulas: will do. thanks for the help.
[11:18] <m|kael> hello how do i permanently mount C: in ubuntu wubi ?
[11:18] <incorrect1> reena, suck it and see,
[11:18] <BlouBlou> reena_: If you have more than 256MB, you don't have any problems
[11:18] <KNUBBIG> Hey, any idea why ALT + TAB isn't working in Natty with Unity?
[11:18] <tuxx-> m|kael: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab
[11:18] <Soothsayer> why doesn't any forum, article, etc tell you to install the official driver from the website of the graphics card vendor?
[11:18] <daxroc> KNUBBIG: youll need to enable a switcher in compiz config found under settings
[11:19] <KNUBBIG> daxroc: ah okay, thanks
[11:19] <Soothsayer> ok
[11:19] <BlouBlou> KNUBBIG: Type in a terminal 'sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager'
[11:19] <Soothsayer> what's Separate X screen?
[11:19] <Soothsayer> and what's twinview?
[11:19] <Soothsayer> the difference?
[11:19] <Sterist> quick question, how do you pause Qemu?
[11:19] <reena_> BlouBlou:any site from where i can see more aboute memory use,actually i builded a qtwebkit browser..
[11:19] <Milos_SD> Hi
[11:19] <KNUBBIG> BlouBlou: yes I have that already, just didn't know I had to enable the switcher. THanks a lot :)
[11:19] <BlouBlou> KNUBBIG: np :)
[11:19] <daxroc> Soothsayer: twinview is nvidias version of xinerama
[11:20] <qkit> evening everyone
[11:20] <Milos_SD> Is there a way to have close, maximize, minimize buttons on the right side in Ubuntu 11.04 for maximized windows?
[11:20] <Soothsayer> daxroc: hmm.. whats that?
[11:20] <qkit> after i updated my ubuntu t the lastest version
[11:20] <nia_aza> g ngrt q
[11:20] <BlouBlou> reena_: type 'top' in a terminal
[11:20] <genupulas> :)
[11:20] <futbolbuntu> IOError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: '/usr/share/app-install/desktop/software-center.menu'
[11:20] <qkit> all my panel go missing
[11:20] <Soothsayer> daxroc: I want a dual monitor setup like on Windows 7.. where I can take windows from here to there...
[11:20] <futbolbuntu> any ideas?
[11:20] <qkit> how can i resolve that?
[11:20] <m|kael> tuxx-: im sorry im not a pro at this
[11:20] <Soothsayer> what am I looking for twinview or ... ?
[11:21] <genupulas> qkit:  restore u r gnome panel
[11:21] <BlouBlou> qkit: Go to GDM menu (in where you select user) and click on your user. After that select 'classic-session' in a small box and log in
[11:21] <m|kael> tuxx-: the information at that link feels a bit overwhelming
[11:21] <daxroc> Soothsayer: its the piece of functionality that gives you dual(or more) monitor support, one big desktop
[11:21] <qkit> i cant go to any menu
[11:21] <qkit> is just a desktop with a couple of icon there
[11:22] <BlouBlou> qkit: I mean when you turn on your PC, you see a 'menu' to select the user, right?
[11:22] <qkit> even i try right click it only give me the option create folder, launcher,document
[11:22] <reena_> Bloublou:thnks,i am running a html5 file in my webkit's browser,but this is not opening video,is webkit support html5 or not?
[11:22] <qkit> nope...it only prompt me for password
[11:22] <m|kael> hello is there any tool in ubuntu wubi that let me permanently mount c: ?
[11:22] <BlouBlou> qkit: Yeah! That's what I am telling you for! Select there 'classic-session'
[11:23] <Feyisayo1> Soothsayer: Thanks. I may have to use the internet option. But there are power cuts where I am. Can the upgrade be paused and resumed?
[11:23] <BlouBlou> reena_: I don't know
[11:23] <KNUBBIG> In my login screen, the login window isn't skinned at all and looks pretty ancient. Anything I can do about that?
[11:23] <qkit> errr, it dont have any option there only has a box for me to keyin the password
[11:24] <BlouBlou> qkit: 1 sec
[11:24] <lolner> I'm trying to install 11.04 netboot. I keep getting 'plymouth command failed, disconnected from plymouth'. Does anyone know how I can fix this and make the system bootable?
[11:25] <jmvelasco> hi, I've update to 11.04 to check advances but I can't see system preferences nor system administration. I realized my graphics card work worst now, the rendering is pretty ugly since sometimes the old rendered is still displayed and dissapear little by little when I open other stuffs... any guide/hint to solve this ?¿ there are some high requirements for new Gnome ?¿
[11:25] <BlouBlou> qkit: I mean below
[11:25] <qkit> ok
[11:25] <[muttox]> sigh just restarted my machine after upgrading to 11.04 and the sound has stopped working
[11:25] <BlouBlou> qkit: when you're going to ype password, see a box below
[11:25] <[muttox]> card is detected and volumes are set on alsa, but nadda comes out
[11:26] <jmvelasco> please name my nick for comments so i can see the highlight, I can't be present at the chat right now since i am on work time
[11:26] <qkit> BlouBlou, it only show enter password to unlock your login keyring didnt have any option below
[11:26] <qkit> i believe this is due to the fact i using macubuntu, and when i doing the upgrade i forgot to uninstall it.
[11:27] <BlouBlou> qkit: Oh, I don't know there, can you try to use default GDM menu please?
[11:27] <qkit> hmm..possible for me to reinstall the whole xserver and gnome ?
[11:27] <jmvelasco> i repplay myself --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCrpy3fSGRY
[11:27] <BlouBlou> It has nothing to do with gnome, it's due to Unity
[11:27] <Vustom> I have 6 partitions..
[11:27] <Vustom> 1. HP 200 GB NTFS 2. 83 GB ext4 3. 3.2 GB Swa... 32 GB 4. Extended 289 GB (Pretty sure this is Ubuntu 10.4 parition) 5. 195 GB ext4 6. 8.3 GB Swap ... 8.3 GB 6. FACTORY_IMAGE 11GB NTFS
[11:27] <incorrect1> if you click an icon on the sidebar it should minimise it
[11:27] <jmvelasco> but i still would like to know if there are higher requirements fro grahpics
[11:27] <Vustom> 2 is partition type Linux, so is 3, 5 and 6, HP and FACTORY_IMAGE are both partition type HPFS/NTFS (0x07) and 4, is partition type Extended if this helps..
[11:28] <Vustom> I want to clean out all of the Linux ones, can someone help me?
[11:28] <Sterist> quick question, what's the BEST front-end to Qemu?
[11:28] <BlouBlou> qkit: It has nothing to do with gnome, it's due to Unity
[11:28] <Vustom> So theres only HP and FACTORY_IMAGE left.
[11:28] <futbolbuntu> damn i can't use ubuntu tweak either.
[11:28] <thegoodcushion> anyone got a deskjet working on Ubuntu?  I'm on Ubuntu 10.04 with a Deskjet 2000 plugged in via USB.  I can print from OS X and from Windows 7 on the exact same machine but Ubuntu doesn't want to print.  It acts as though it does print successfully but nothing comes out of the printer.  Any ideas?
[11:29] <qkit> ok, let me try remove all the desktop environment and reinstall it. See does it help or not
[11:29] <BlouBlou> qkit: Okay
[11:29] <Stew_822> Hello :), I was wondering if anyone has any experaince with .desktop files?
[11:29] <phonex01> Hello !
[11:29] <Stew_822> thegoodcushion: I'm not an expert, but google "cups ubuntu"
[11:29] <Vustom> D:
[11:30] <Vustom> no help?
[11:30] <Sterist> quick question, what's the BEST front-end to Qemu?
[11:30] <BlouBlou> Vustom: Use 'gparted'
[11:30] <Stew_822> thegoodcushion: Then perhaps try and install your printer from that
[11:30] <BlouBlou> !gparted | Vustom
[11:30] <Vustom> what's it do?
[11:30] <phonex01> Guys when i add new panel to my desktop and add some shortcuts there, for the next boot i dont see them ! they simply gone ! why ?
[11:31] <futbolbuntu> Hi. Can someone help me? I can not run Ubuntu Software Center. When I run it from the terminal this is the output: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9mFUcVU2
[11:31] <gartral> hello all, I keep hitting bug 712075 on 11.04 and running "sudo get-edid" produces "command not found"
[11:31] <gartral> !botsnack
[11:32] <phonex01> Thank god i did not installed ubuntu 11.04
[11:32] <gartral> phonex01: why's that?
[11:32] <phonex01> why ! there is dozen of bugs
[11:32] <gartral> phonex01: also, you shouldn't be thanking God, you should be thanking Tux!
[11:32] <phonex01> Tux ?
[11:33] <phonex01> hwo is tux ?
[11:33] <Artiom_Fiodorov> hey anyone knows how to map multi_key into super key, cuz my win keys shows up as multi_key
[11:33] <gartral> phonex01: the Linux Mascot!
[11:33] <BlouBlou> phonex01: Tux is Linux-penguin
[11:33] <BlouBlou> !tux > phonex01
[11:34] <Stew_822> My .desktop file that's playing up is: http://pastebin.com/cD3bAq5i   I don't know what's wrong. x-wallpaper-changer is an app I wrote, and the command I set Exec to works fine in the terminal (which is why I've set Terminal to true). Any ideas?
[11:34] <phonex01> Thanks for god not for tux !
[11:35] <jstoone> quit leaveing
[11:35] <Stew_822> Someone should make a version of tux that's half-God half-penguin :)
[11:36] <gartral> Stew_822: tux the God-guin!
[11:36] <phonex01> some respect here !
[11:36] <BlouBlou> !ot
[11:36] <BlouBlou> !offtopic
[11:36] <phonex01> God is not something able to say jokes
[11:37] <Stew_822> I know that was coming ;)
[11:37] <Stew_822> Not God, the offtopic thing
[11:37] <Vustom> BlouBlou
[11:37] <drewby> I use Gnome in Ubuntu 9.10.  From the "Places" menu, if I click on any folder it opens rhythm box (Music Player) instead of a folder.
[11:37] <Vustom> Does gparted have an interface when I boot to it using a LiveCD?
[11:37] <Vustom> I'm not good with commands :/
[11:37] <BlouBlou> Vustom: Yes, it has
[11:37] <[muttox]> nice, i forced played a wav file with aplay a few times and now my sound is working again...
[11:37] <Vustom> :)
[11:37] <gartral> phonex01: you should pick up a copy of The Little Brown Handbook...
[11:37] <Vustom> Thanks!
[11:37] <[muttox]> dunno how that works but hooray
[11:37] <Stew_822> Okay, on topic, does anyone have any idea why my .desktop file isn't working?
[11:37] <drewby> How can I get it to open the file browser with that folder instead of rhythmbox?
[11:37] <BlouBlou> np
[11:38] <KebabBob> I just upgraded to 11.04... How do I get rid of the new program bar and restore the old look?
[11:38] <BlouBlou> drewby: What?
[11:38] <jpg> hi, is there a manpage or something to change the old ui back on 11.04 instead of this new Unity?
[11:38] <Stew_822> BlouBlou: I think in the menu he's clicking on a directory, and it's opening rythembox
[11:38] <drewby> BlouBlou: in the places menu if I click a folder it opens rhythmbox rather than nautilus
[11:38] <BlouBlou> KebabBob: Go to GDM menu and click on your user. After that select 'classic-session' in a box below
[11:38] <KNUBBIG> In my login screen, the login window isn't skinned at all and looks pretty ancient. Anything I can do about that?
[11:39] <genupulas> chnage at properties
[11:39] <drewby> really bizarre
[11:39] <[muttox]> jpg: im not running with an install but id assume you change your default session when you log in?
[11:39] <KebabBob> how do I access the gdm menu?
[11:39] <Adross> has there been any support in getting rt2870 chipset's support 802.11n on natty?
[11:39] <KebabBob> Do I have to log out first?
[11:40] <Cube``> hey, one laptop upgraded to 11.04 without problem, but the other one is not showing the "upgrade" button in the update manager! i have enabled showing dist-upgrades in the settings :S
[11:40] <jpg> muttbox: thanks, going to try that when I boot next time, cheers :)
[11:40] <phonex01> why the shortcuts in my panel gone when i reboot ?
[11:40] <Stew_822> Can anyone point me in the direction of a forum where I might recieve some help with my .desktop file?
[11:40] <BlouBlou> KebabBob: Just restart computer, it's the place in which you type your password to log in. Click on you user, and change in a box below, from ubuntu to classic-ubuntu or classic-session
[11:40] <gartral> Cube``: on the troubled machine, have you done any kernel recompiling?
[11:40] <Cube``> gartral: no
[11:41] <mikebeecham> hi guys....can anyone tell me how to restore my 'home' icon back to the unity bar?
[11:41] <phonex01> i added new panel to the right and then i added some shortcuts but when i reboot they simply gone !
[11:41] <mikebeecham> cant find it
[11:41] <drewby> OH CRA! I don't use 9.10.  I use 10.10
[11:41] <drewby> sorry I don't know why I said that
[11:41] <Stew_822> Cube``: I think there's a command to upgrade your ubuntu version :)
[11:41] <BlouBlou> Cube``: Go to software-sources >> updates tab >> and change LTS versions, instead of that, select normal-editions
[11:42] <Cube``> Stew_822: yes but i wanted to do it guiwise
[11:42] <Stew_822> Cube``: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/upgrade
[11:42] <Cube``> BlouBlou: yes its already normal editions :S
[11:42] <phonex01> Take my advice dont use ubuntu 11.04 now
[11:42] <BlouBlou> !upgrade | Maybe this will help you Cube``
[11:42] <drewby> anybody know why clicking a folder bookmark would initiate rhythmbox instead of nautilus?
[11:42] <koheleth> phonex01: why?
[11:42] <Cube``> phonex01: wtf why!?!?
[11:42] <gartral> Cube``: open a terminal and run sudo update-manager -c
[11:42] <Cube``> gartral: kk
[11:43] <BlouBlou> !wtf > Cube``
[11:43] <phonex01> ohhh why?
[11:43] <Soothsayer> ok, now I can't boot into ubuntu!
[11:43] <Cube``> phonex01: why?
[11:43] <Soothsayer> in recovery mode with lowgraphics selected.
[11:43] <phonex01> i saw a lot of bugs and a lot of problems
[11:43] <Soothsayer> how do I rollback the graphic drivers configurations I did ?
[11:43] <phonex01> starting from the software center and package manager
[11:43] <phonex01> also supporting drivers
[11:43] <Stew_822> drewby: I don't know, but maybe in default programs? Or try right-clicking a directory and select "open with" then choose natulis, the file browser
[11:44] <Cube``> gartral: nope, its the same situation, its not showing up
[11:44] <gartral> phonex01: what's true for you won't be true for everyone. the more people using ubuntu-bug in the new version, the faster these bugs will be fixed. please don't discourage others from trying the newest builds
[11:45] <Rziz> Hello, i am having a slight problem.. I am trying to do a 11.04 command line install with fb using the alternate cd, but apparently this option does no longer seem to be available in the F6 menu?
[11:45] <Soothsayer> I second what gartral said.
[11:45] <gartral> Cube``: that's very odd..
[11:45] <mikebeecham> How do I restore the home icon to my Unity panel?
[11:45] <KNUBBIG> In my login screen, the login window isn't skinned at all and looks pretty ancient. Anything I can do about that?
[11:45] <Rziz> Are there any parameters I could pass to accomplish the same?
[11:45] <jatt> mikebeecham: there is no way to add the home icon to the unity bar
[11:45] <mikebeecham> jatt, what is the icon at the very top with the home icon on it then
[11:45] <mikebeecham> ?
[11:45] <jatt> so you added it?
[11:46] <mikebeecham> nope...it was there on first install, but I removed all the clutter
[11:46] <mikebeecham> *sigh* it was a noob moment!
[11:46] <mikebeecham> jatt, it was a folder icon with a home on it
[11:46] <Rziz> this multi-iso concept of ubuntu seems quite pointless to me, anyway
[11:46] <gartral> !noob > mikebeecham
[11:47] <JohnFlux> Hi all
[11:47] <JohnFlux> If I want to update a package, what is needed exactly?
[11:47] <Vustom> BlouBlou, what happens If I need to unmount to delete the partitions
[11:47] <Vustom> how do I do that?
[11:47] <mikebeecham> gartral, thanks, but that was kind of unnecessary since I was referring to myself
[11:47] <mikebeecham> *sigh*
[11:47] <gartral> Rziz: what do you mean? it's not like UBuntu comes in 4-7 installationd disks.. like slackware does.
[11:47] <JohnFlux> sorry I mean, a package in ubuntu is quite old.  I want to make a newer version of the package, and get that into ubuntu
[11:48] <BlouBlou> Vustom: It means that you can't do anything in a partition if you're using them, so before doing anything, it's needed to unmount
[11:48] <gartral> mikebeecham: sorry.. I saw the word and had a "itchy trigger finger" moment!
[11:48] <dman777> anyone use aide?
[11:48] <drewby> Stew_822: thanks for the guess.  It doesn't look like folders have open_with menus though
[11:48] <Rziz> gatral: my main issue atm is no command-line install option seems to be available in the 11.04 alternate cd. I was wondering if i could pass any boot parameter to the installer to accomplish this
[11:48] <Vustom> But how do I unmount it when I'm in the gparted liveCD, or wont i need to worry about that?
[11:48] <lylanthia> hi there, is this an acceptable place for me to ask a quick question?
[11:48] <mikebeecham> gartral, no worries
[11:49] <BlouBlou> Vustom: Don't worry
[11:49] <Shaggy2> I need some help I just installed ubuntu 11.04 desktop, it's not booting
[11:49] <Vustom> :D
[11:49] <Vustom> thank you. :3
[11:49] <Rziz> or am I supposed to do a netinstall, which seems a different thing to me :p
[11:49] <BlouBlou> Vustom: np
[11:49] <Stew_822> lylanthia: I think so, but people tend to shoot you if you say something that's outta place :)
[11:49] <mikebeecham> som does anyone know how I can restore the 'home' folder icon back to my unity bar?
[11:49] <lylanthia> thanks ^.^
[11:50] <Stew_822> lylanthia: it's deadly in here ;)
[11:50] <Nunya> I auto upgraded to 11.04 today and the install has stalled out with: restarting services have possibly affected the upgrade: restarting spam assassin done, restarting cups...   then nothing
[11:50] <boomboorum> Hi guys, I have been playing around with compiz yesterday, and when I started ubuntu (11.04 with  gnome ) all the headers from all the windows disappered. What can it be?
[11:50] <lylanthia> I'm about to install the latest  x64 ubuntu and windows on a laptop. A volunteer organization I work with uses Ubuntu on all of their tech, so I want to get comfortable. If I install windows first, and then Ubuntu, will ubuntu's loader set up dual booting for me?
[11:51] <Stew_822> lylanthia: It did for me :)
[11:51] <lylanthia> excelent :D
[11:51] <lylanthia> thanks ^.^
[11:51] <Stew_822> lylanthia: buuut I don't know the technical answer, but I assume so :)
[11:51] <jaypur> hello, i'd like to know what are the problems of the 64 bit version of ubuntu nowadays....
[11:51] <Stew_822> no problems :)
[11:51] <jaypur> Stew_822, talking to me?
[11:51] <daxt> hi guys , i installed ubuntu 11.04 parallelly with my Lucid installation , but  grub does not show the new nutty menu option , how do i add it ?
[11:51] <gartral> boomboorum: hit alt-f2 and run metacity --replace
[11:51] <Stew_822> jaypue: No, sorry
[11:52] <lylanthia> Well, if I get good at this, I'll be back to contribute :D thanks all ^.^
[11:52] <Rziz> it doesn't seem obvious to me if there is there any way to do a command-line install of Ubuntu 11.04 without doing a netinstall
[11:52] <Rziz> as the command-line install option of the 11.04 alternate cd seems to be removed
[11:53] <BlouBlou> !alternate | Rziz
[11:53] <smw> Rziz, why do you want a cli install?
[11:53] <BlouBlou> Rziz: It isn't
[11:53] <daxt> hi guys , i installed ubuntu 11.04 parallelly with my Lucid installation , but  grub does not show the new nutty menu option , how do i add it ?
[11:53] <Rziz> smw: no need for DE for me, low memory system
[11:54] <gartral> Rziz: the alt-cd's main install feature is the cli install. they just renamed it. I agree though, it is mildly confusing.
[11:54] <KNUBBIG> In my login screen, the login window isn't skinned at all and looks pretty ancient. Anything I can do about that?
[11:54] <Rziz> gatral: thanks a lot :p its quite confusing indeed
[11:54] <Nunya> anyone have any idea why the upgrade to Natty has stalled for hours now with :  restarting services have possibly affected the upgrade: restarting spam assassin done, restarting cups...   then nothing?
[11:55] <jaypur> who has ubuntu 64bits version?
[11:55] <jrib> jaypur: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[11:55] <genupulas> !grub
[11:55] <jaypur> jrib, i've already....
[11:56] <nick-nack> is cpu scaling working correctly in 11.04 x64?
[11:56] <NeoCicak> hi all.... does anyone know how to change the default unity shortcut? i dont want the super + f1 key to open the menu panel... I also dont want the super + t key to open the trash can.....:( i cant seem to find the way to change this behaviour anywhere
[11:56] <NeoCicak> jaypur: i'm using 64 bit
[11:56] <jaypur> NeoCicak, have you already faced some problems?
[11:56] <jrib> jaypur: if no one answered wait patiently and repeat after about 10 minutes.  Please don't ask "who is using ..." as it's not very productive
[11:56] <NeoCicak> jaypur: not yet.... but i've just upgraded about 3 hours ago
[11:56] <KNUBBIG> NeoCicak: should be possible with compizconfig-settings-manager
[11:57] <jaypur> NeoCicak, have you installed programs like gimp, inkscape?
[11:57] <m3t4lukas> Hey guys I have a problem with my Virtual Box OSE Installation on 11.04. Everytime I start the application I get logged off. I tried complete removal and reinstallation, but nothing helped...
[11:57] <Soothsayer> My graphics card has drivers on the official website.. it's a .run file, what do I do with it ?
[11:57] <jrib> jaypur: if you have a computer that can handle 64bits, there's no reason nowadays not to use 64bit
[11:57] <C_Classic> I have an external touchscreen-monitor connected to my notebook. When I use dual view the touchscreen doesn't work properly anymore. (It handles it as one huge screen) How can I configure Ubuntu that the touchscreen is only on my external monitor?
[11:57] <jrib> Soothsayer: what card?
[11:57] <NeoCicak> KNUBBIG: i assume you are referring to the 'commands' section there?
[11:58] <raylee> hi
[11:58] <jaypur> jrib, the 64 version used to have a lot of problems.... and nowadays? is it still facing it?
[11:58] <KNUBBIG> NeoCicak: for the terminal, yes, for unity settings you have too look at the ubuntu-unity plugin
[11:58] <KNUBBIG> trash can* not terminal, sorry
[11:58] <raylee> what is the new ubuntu like
[11:58] <jrib> jaypur: what problems are you referring to exactly?  I've been using 64bit for many years without issues now
[11:59] <NeoCicak> KNUBBIG : nope.... i bound super + t to run gnome-terminal... but it still opens the trash can :(
[11:59] <jaypur> jrib, i remember about, firefox, some programs and about video drivers and flash
[11:59] <NeoCicak> KNUBBIG: plugin? where can i get that?
[11:59] <nick-nack> my cpu scaling is not working. sudo modprobe -v powersave, for example, says "FATAL: Module powersave not found."
[11:59] <NeoCicak> jaypur: nope
[11:59] <lvh> Hello.
[11:59] <jrib> jaypur: those haven't been problems for a long time.  I don't recall video drivers ever being a problem and adobe provides a 64bit version of flash now
[11:59] <nick-nack> cpu is running at top speed constantly.
[12:00] <jaypur> hmm, so i'll get the 64 version oh yeah
[12:00] <jaypur> :D
[12:00] <KNUBBIG> NeoCicak: there should be an icon telling "Ubuntu Unity Plugin"
[12:00] <jrib> Soothsayer: do you know what video card you have?
[12:00] <KNUBBIG> NeoCicak: but give me a sec I'm trying to find sth
[12:00] <gartral> jrib: i still find the 64-bit flash is near useless..
[12:00] <jrib> gartral: in what sense?
[12:01] <[ND]> mikebeecham: if u have it in "most frequently used" on the "add application" button in the launcher, try to drag and drop it back to the launcher
[12:01] <lvh> The update to 11.04 appears to have made my system unbootable. It tells me the volume for / isn't available yet. (/ is /dev/sda3). It's mounted by UUID in /etc/fstab, but I would expect those UUIDs to not change.
[12:01] <gartral> jrib: the 64-bit flash runs at nearly 1/4 the speed/effeciency of the 32-bit varient on my i7/gtx260/8gig ram system..
[12:01] <mikebeecham> [ND], I dont
[12:01] <NeoCicak> KNUBBIG: i think unity has just crashed on me..
[12:02] <KNUBBIG> NeoCicak: then try relogging :)
[12:02] <gartral> jrib: but that's my experience with it. that won't hold true for everyone
[12:02] <lvh> Now, the confusing part is that it tells me /dev/sde3 is mounted in /, but I don't even *have* a /dev/sde
[12:02] <thegoodcushion> Quick poll: What do you think of Unity?  Thumbs up or down?
[12:02] <lvh> I have a /dev/sdd, that's about it.
[12:02] <jrib> gartral: ah, I haven't compared so that may be true.  But it works well enough for me
[12:02] <jrib> thegoodcushion: please don't take polls here
[12:04] <sect114> having problems downloading 11.4 onto my powerpc mac laptop - am updating from 10.10, stops with this message:     W:Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/natty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)
[12:04] <sect114>      	 	 	 	 any ideas on what i should do?
[12:04] <sect114>   
[12:04] <kr1pt0r> #dclabs
[12:04] <lvh> The exact error message I'm getting is "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present"
[12:04] <NeoCicak> KNUBBIG: hmmm...back
[12:05] <lvh> If I tell it to skip, it tells me that for *all* the filesystems.
[12:05] <lightbricko> Does the flash plugin in 11.04 use the gpu when watching movies (youtube etc.)?
[12:05] <trijntje> is there somewhere I can check to find out if the update servers are still so congested? I dont want to update for 12 hours ;)
[12:07] <fcuk112> is there any way i can configure ctrl-alt-T to launch terminator rather than terminal?
[12:07] <chandru_in> Can the list of favorite folders in launcher be modified?
[12:07] <zvacet> sect114: try to disable partner repo during upgrade and enable it after
[12:07] <[ND]> mikebeecham: alt F2 : nautilus
[12:08] <Nunya> upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 stalled out after it restarted services hours ago... cups restarting....... then nothing??
[12:08] <chandru_in> fcuk112, Disabled keyboard shortcut and create a new one with terminator as command
[12:08] <fcuk112> chandru_in, good idea thanks.
[12:09] <fcuk112> any quick fix for guake?  (reduce width to take launcher into account)
[12:09] <Shaggy2> has anyone had any problems with booting into ubuntu 11.04 after install?
[12:09] <Nunya> at least yours installed  Oo
[12:09] <NeoCicak> anyone know how to change the unity shortcut? (alt-f1 & super-t in particular)
[12:10] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, have you got a problem with booting into 11.04?
[12:10] <mikebeecham> [ND], thanks, but I cant seem to add a folder to the launcher
[12:10] <Incarus6> Nunya, have you issues with installing 11.04?
[12:10] <Nunya> yes
[12:10] <Nunya> Incarus6 yes
[12:10] <m_e> hey guys, how can i deaktivate the new look and feel thingy. (go back to the normal taskbar that requires less performance)
[12:10] <Nunya> it has stalled out
[12:10] <Incarus6> Nunya, can you paste /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log ?
[12:11] <sect114> zvacet:thanks! where do i disable partner repo?
[12:11] <chandru_in> m_e, Select ubuntu classic in login
[12:11] <Nunya> yes gimme sec
[12:11] <Shaggy2> yes it wasn't loading, would start to load (ie the purple screen) then would go to a black screen and nothing, I could type anything I wanted and it wouldn't do anything, I shoved the disk back in to boot to live to double check that it works on my system and loaded in with out a problem I am now running the install again
[12:11] <Shaggy2> maybe something went cookoo while installing
[12:12] <zvacet> sect114:  ubuntu software center>edit>repositories>uncheck partner and reload
[12:12] <KNUBBIG> sudo nano /usr/share/applications/nautilus-home.desktop
[12:12] <KNUBBIG> whoops
[12:12] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, did you try the rescue mode? could be a dependency error with plymouth
[12:12] <KNUBBIG> wrong tab
[12:12] <Incarus6> KNUBBIG, nevermind. that wont work here ;)
[12:12] <Shaggy2> will try that if it happens again thanks
[12:12] <KNUBBIG> Incarus6: I know :D but didn't want to spam the channel with crap :)
[12:12] <Shaggy2> I dumped windows 7 for this problem lol
[12:12] <Incarus6> KNUBBIG, sudo killall * :D
[12:13] <KNUBBIG> Incarus6: no! :D
[12:13] <Shaggy2> MICROSUCK BALLS
[12:13] <Nunya> Incarus6 http://pastebin.com/0WzjDVfc
[12:13] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, try to boot into the terminal via rescue mode and type "sudo apt-get -f install" and/or try "sudo aptitude", it can fix dependecy errors better
[12:13] <[ND]> mikebeecham: maybe bookmarking that folder will be a good workaround
[12:14] <sect114> zvacet: cheers! will try now
[12:14] <Incarus6> !language | Shaggy2
[12:14] <mikebeecham> [ND], or go back to classic ;)
[12:14] <[ND]> J;)
[12:14] <Shaggy2> ok sorry
[12:14] <idris> hello any problems so far along the narwhal route?
[12:15] <lvh> The update to 11.04 appears to have made my system unbootable. It tells me the volume for / isn't available yet. Exact error message: "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present". (/ is /dev/sda3). It's mounted by UUID in /etc/fstab, but I would expect those UUIDs to not change. Dropping into maintenance console allows me to manually mount the filesystems just fine.
[12:15] <mtlife> does unity require gdm?
[12:15] <m_e> chandru_in: thanks a lot
[12:15] <mtlife> because i use lxdm right now...
[12:15] <Incarus6> Nunya, pls paste "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | grep broken" vor better overview
[12:15] <Nunya> ok gimme sec
[12:15] <nishanth> i accidentally disabled unity plugin in compiz when i was trying to enable cube deformation plugin. now i dont have access to any of the icons. could someone help me?
[12:16] <jackster> something strange is happening under vmware fusion with Natty - when I log in it tells me my system can't run Unity and I get a normal Gnome desktop with the dark theme, then after about 40 seconds the bars along the top and bottom change from the black look to some sort of Windows 9x style appearance - anyone heard of this?
[12:16] <chandru_in> Is it possible to change the list of favorite folder in launcher (Super + F)?
[12:16] <Nunya> Incarus6 that command produced nothing
[12:16] <Incarus6> nUNYA, AND PASTE MAIN.LOG IN THE SAME DIR AND (IF NOT EMPTY) ALSO (apt-)term.log (sry, caps lock)
[12:17] <mtlife> does unity require gdm? Because im using lxdm right now.. and it doesnt work?
[12:17] <gartral> mtlife: yes
[12:17] <Incarus6> Nunya, sry, i meant "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | grep Broken"
[12:17] <mtlife> gartral: thx
[12:18] <Incarus6> gartral, sure? you can also boot gnome from kdm and kde from gdm?
[12:18] <lightbricko> lvh: I don't know for sure, but if it's a GRUB issue, check here how to get GRUB info with bootscript and then fix it: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1705279
[12:18] <MennaEssa> Guys my friends laptop went off during the upgrade to 11.4 , ofcourse it's no longer working it gives this :init: playmouth main process (61) killed by SEGV signal any idea if we can solve this or she has el reinstall ?
[12:19] <Nunya> Incarus6 http://pastebin.com/U0uWJ1Kt
[12:19] <gartral> Incarus6: you cannot start unity from kdm.
[12:19] <Incarus6> MennaEssa, you mean plymouth? try to boot in rescue mode and look if dependencies are correct
[12:20] <nishanth>  i accidentally disabled unity plugin in compiz when i was trying to enable cube deformation plugin. now i dont have access to any of the icons. could someone help me?
[12:20] <Nunya> Incarus6 it looks like I have quite the mess  :(
[12:20] <Nunya> zomg
[12:21] <Incarus6> Nunya, ? and optionally paste "apt-cache policy gnome-user-guide"
[12:21] <Nunya> gimme sec
[12:22] <m|kael> hi, i just installed ubuntu on my netbook to try it out, everything seems to be working except the sound, does anyone know how to fix this?
[12:22] <Nunya> Incarus6 where is that?
[12:22] <Nunya> I dont see it
[12:22] <Incarus6> m|kael, yes, goto the sound settings and turn "mute" off and check if the right hardware is selected. didnt work for me either, because "hdmi output" was selected as default sound device
[12:23] <Incarus6> Nunya, the last one is a command
[12:23] <zvacet> Nunya:  run command and paste output
[12:23] <botcity> nishanth, can you not access ccsm?
[12:23] <Incarus6> Nunya, don't forget the main.log
[12:23] <nishanth> botcity no there are no more application icons to click on
[12:24] <KNUBBIG> nishanth: alt + f2 -> ccsm maybe?
[12:24] <nishanth> KNUBBIG tried that , did not work
[12:24] <m|kael> Incarus6: its set to internal sound now, analog stereo duplex
[12:25] <jpohl> i just upgraded to xubuntu/natty and now when i try to shutdown or restart it just takes me back to the login screen
[12:25] <KNUBBIG> nishanth: tried logging into classic ubuntu and there enabling the unity plugin in ccsm?
[12:25] <Nunya> Incarus6 http://pastebin.com/9DTm8vXp
[12:25] <Shaggy2> ok it has finished it's re install.... first boot has all the services listed with [OK] after them but one. Starting automatic crash report generation [fail]
[12:25] <Incarus6> m|kael, still not working?
[12:26] <zvacet> nishanth:  try to boot in ubuntu classic and disable visual effects and then again boot in unity
[12:26] <Shaggy2> and it just hangs there with that on the screen
[12:26] <m|kael> Incarus6: now it does, im puzzled lol, it didnt work 5 min ago :/
[12:26] <phoenixsampras> How to Downgrade??
[12:26] <botcity> ccsm could do with a reset switch lol
[12:27] <nishanth> zvacet wat do you mean by ubuntu classic?
[12:27] <Incarus6> m|kael, you'r welcome
[12:27] <KNUBBIG> botcity: I think it has under preferences | reset to defaults
[12:27] <KNUBBIG> but never tried it :)
[12:27] <ScottONanski> Hey, can you separate texts into chat bubble with Pidgin like you can with Empathy?
[12:28] <zvacet> nishanth:  it is gnome but on login screen under sessions it is called ubuntu classic
[12:28] <phoenixsampras> why 11.04 STILL HAS the hibernation and suspend bugs?
[12:28] <Incarus6> Nunya, are you sure the first output is the file /var/log-dist-upgrade/main.log ?
[12:28] <nishanth> zvazet ok let me try that and come back
[12:29] <osmosis_paul> Somebody know why the java channel is not in the channel list anymore?
[12:29] <Nunya> yes I think so?
[12:29] <KNUBBIG> osmosis_paul: you need to registered and join ##java afaik
[12:30] <cdavis> Anyone here know much about remmina?
[12:30] <Incarus6> Nunya, I don't think so, are you sure?
[12:30] <Shaggy2> how do I get to the rescue mode?
[12:30] <cdavis> It seems like the password hashes are not the same for all bookmarks now, which means all of my saved files are broken
[12:30] <Nunya> Im not sure of anything right now, please tell me what you need again
[12:30] <botcity> KNUBBIG, , preferences >> reset to defaults is there maybe that can help nishanth
[12:31] <Nunya> tired been on this all night
[12:31] <KNUBBIG> botcity: If he gets into ccsm, yes, maybe
[12:31] <Incarus6> Nunya, the output of "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/main.log" / the content of that file
[12:31] <Nunya> ok
[12:32] <Shaggy2> Incarus: how do I get the Rescue mode to show?
[12:32] <boneseer> how do i repair a ubuntu installation from a live cd?
[12:32] <CQ> hello, how do I figure out which xserver I am using? there are around 15 installed and I want to remove the unused ones
[12:32] <iceroot> boneseer: repair what exactly?
[12:32] <boneseer> my install. it won't boot.
[12:33] <Naphidia> anyone have experience with getting Intel 1030 Wireless-N working on ubuntu ?
[12:33] <iceroot> boneseer: errors?
[12:33] <Nunya> Incarus6 http://pastebin.com/b1qdzpML
[12:33] <qkit> strange i manage to get my ubuntu classic running
[12:33] <boneseer> i can't copy it. it was regarding a font or something. the colors of the text where in the style of ubuntu colors.
[12:33] <qkit> but how can i get unity to be running on ubuntu 11.04?
[12:33] <boneseer> can't use the terminal there either
[12:34] <erkan^> compiz-gnome doens't work )-:
[12:34] <botcity> KNUBBIG, sorry i thought he could get into it he just had no icons.. anyway let hope it works :-)
[12:34] <zvacet> qkit:  did you tried login screen>session>ubuntu
[12:34] <Incarus6> boneseer, you type "chroot /PATH" to be able to run commands in your old system
[12:34] <qkit> yes
[12:34] <Soothsayer> im so confused about setting up my graphics drivers
[12:34] <qkit> and it only show me an empty screen with an wall paper only
[12:35] <KNUBBIG> !chroot > boneseer
[12:35] <Soothsayer> how do I check if its enabled or not to its full capacity?
[12:35] <zvacet> qkit: maybe is graphic problem I'm not sure,but unity need 3d
[12:35] <lightbricko> How do I check if my flash player is GPU accelerated (as it should be)? The issue is that flash (youtube) videos don't run smoothly, however the laptop i ~5 years old. I run 11.04.
[12:35] <Naphidia> actually... can someone point me to a tutorial for compiling a NEW kernel downloaded from source from kernels.org i wana do it from scratch
[12:35] <dmartinng> Is it just me, or Unity doesn't appear when I boot up from a USB?
[12:36] <Hedgehog456> Finally, the Ubuntu servers are stable now :D
[12:36] <KNUBBIG> !kenrel > Naphidia
[12:36] <misse-> dmartinng: perhaps becasue you're gfx need drivers to be installed
[12:36] <KNUBBIG> !kernel > Naphidia
[12:36] <KNUBBIG> sorry
[12:36] <lightbricko> dmartinng: I haven't tried it from USB, but with the 11.04 liveCD (run from CD) I got unity as expected.
[12:36] <Naphidia> ty
[12:36] <dmartinng> hm. I tried it on two computers and both didn't show Unity
[12:37] <zvacet> Naphidia: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/automatically-compile-and-install-the-latest-kernel-using-kernelcheck-in-ubuntu.html
[12:37] <dmartinng> I tried logging out and I didn't see Unity as a choice...
[12:37] <qkit> hmm, aha the unity-2d panel is no installed
[12:37] <Incarus6> Nunya, strange. The issue seems to be everything from line 150 to line 170
[12:37] <qkit> let me try install it and see
[12:37] <Nunya> so what do you suggest?
[12:38] <T0aD> hi, need some suggestions following this problem: I have a backup box with 4 drives in raid5, and the partition in raid5 (/home) wont mount at start because the fs aint clean. I boot a ubuntu server cd on it, run fsck on it but it keeps segfaulting after reaching some inode
[12:38] <lightbricko> dmartinng: Are you using 11.04?
[12:38] <dmartinng> yes, just downloaded it couple of hours ago
[12:38] <Younder> My Ubuntu 11.4 install can't start the xmanager. It logs in and the fails to respond to aly key or mouse commands.I managed tu shut it down and start a xaw session. Any idea what has happened?
[12:38] <dmartinng> I even made sure of it, I checked the software version while running the OS itself
[12:38] <zikalify> unity 2d must be installed via ppa, if your graphics card isnt installed you will get classic ubuntu, open additional dirvers app and install your graphics card, reboot and pick unity from login screen and done
[12:38] <Incarus6> Nunya, it looks like it cannot recognize the free space ("<DistUpgradeCache.FreeSpace object at 0x3f762d0>" line 150)
[12:38] <Naphidia> god i hope this makes my wireless work, i have the feeling it maybe hte gpu switching on this fucking thing
[12:39] <andeeeuk> how can we turn on 3d in ubuntu 11.04
[12:39] <andeeeuk> ?
[12:39] <Nunya> Incarus6 so what shall I do?
[12:39] <bazhang> Naphidia, no cursing please
[12:39] <dmartinng> uh huh i see
[12:39] <lightbricko> dmartinng: strange. I didn't have that issue so I can't help, other than confirming it worked for me (with CD)
[12:39] <joru> hi, i've successfully installed ubuntu 11.04 on two computers but my third computer does not lot load correct grub2, it loads the old grub. what can i do?
[12:39] <Phylock> is it possible to move the unity launcher to the right side of the screen??
[12:39] <Shaggy2> oIncarus6: how do I load into rescue mode please
[12:39] <qkit> ok, i get another option in my login menu. is unity-2d
[12:39] <dmartinng> oh, both the computers I tried it on had no internet
[12:39] <qkit> thanks everyone for the help :P
[12:39] <dmartinng> possibly the drivers arent installed properly
[12:40] <Incarus6> Nunya, I found several websites, were the same error appeared: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1274731
[12:40] <lightbricko> dmartinng: Yes it seems like zikalify had the answer for you :)
[12:40] <nis> i accidentally disabled unity plugin in compiz and now i cant access any of the applications icons
[12:40] <cdavis> For anyone who rdesktops into a lot of windows servers, what do you use instead of remmina?
[12:40] <dmartinng> I saw :D thanks guys :D
[12:41] <vibhav> goood
[12:41] <Nunya> Incarus6 that really tells me nothing that I can see? you?
[12:41] <Shaggy2> can someone please tell me how to load into the rescue mode on 11.04
[12:41] <Nunya> or are you stumped as well?
[12:41] <dmartinng> oh btw, i forgot to check but, what version of LibreOffice comes with Ubuntu 11.04?
[12:42] <Guest5681> hello
 Grub Rescue Mode?
[12:42] <botcity> nis, did the log out to classic not work ?
[12:42] <vibhav>  hey Shaggy2 Grub Rescue Mode?
[12:42] <Shaggy2> I don't know.... Incarus6 told me to load into rescue mode and run some commands
[12:43] <Shaggy2> I have no idea how to get to the rescue mode
[12:43] <Vustom> BlouBlou
[12:43] <muneeb> hi, got error while upgrading "package nspluginwrapper 1.2.2-0ubuntu9 failed to..." can't install anything... STUCK what to do???
[12:43] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, vibhav, not the Grub rescue mode
[12:43] <BlouBlou> Vustom: yes?
[12:43] <mimo> me pueden ayudar diciéndome donde puedo encontrar driver para mi tarjeta grafica
[12:43] <Nunya> Incarus6 am I screwed and am I going tio have to force quit and lose all?
 In the login screen , Cose your user, and where "ubuntu" is written , click on it and chose "recovery mode" or something like that .....
[12:44] <PaulW2U> dmartinng, LibreOffice version with 11.04 is 3.3.2
[12:44] <Vustom> I have deleted the unwanted partitions and now I have my Windows partition which is /dev/sda1 and the FACTORY IMAGE which is /dev/sda2, but when I try to boot it says, error: no partition and under it is gnub rescue> or something..
[12:44] <Shaggy2> I can not get to the login screen
[12:44] <Incarus6> nunya, actually these are DEBUG infos, Im not sure if this caused the problem
[12:44] <dmartinng> hm, thanks :D @PaulW2U
[12:44] <muneeb> Unity+ ATI does it work?? I'm unable to use Unity?
[12:44] <Vustom> i need to boot into /dev/sda2..
[12:44] <zvacet> Shaggy2: when you see grub choose recovery mode and boot in it
[12:44] <Shaggy2> I don't get to see grub either
[12:44] <Nunya> Incarus6 so what do you suggest I do? if I force quit I lose all
[12:45] <Nunya> and will most likely have nothing to boot into
[12:45] <snoeman> How do I tell for certain which graphics driver my laptop with ubu ntu 10.10 installed is running on. It should be openchrome but I suspect it is running on fbdev
[12:45] <Incarus6> Nunya, are you sure about that? it doesnt look like everything failed with that upgrade
[12:46] <zvacet> muneeb:  tried to install additional drivers?
[12:46] <Vustom> D: help?
[12:46] <Incarus6> Nunya, you didn't restart since the upgrade, correct?
[12:46] <Shaggy2> it loads the purple screen with nothing on it, then drops to a plane black screen, when I hit ctrl+alt+del it does the kill proccess but all I am getting is a blane black scren
[12:46] <Incarus6> !ask | Vustom
[12:46] <Nunya> no, it has sat stalled
[12:46] <Nunya> while Ive been googling
[12:46] <muneeb> zvacet, yes i installed but after ubuntu gave error
[12:46] <vibhav> anybody with any problem???
[12:47] <Nunya> last output is cups restarting
[12:47] <Incarus6> Nunya, we can look if all dependeces matches or you could simply reconfigure every package. I hope that works
[12:47] <Shaggy2> vibhuv I just told you my problem
[12:47] <Incarus6> *dependencies
[12:47] <Nunya> reconf every package?
[12:47] <muneeb> zvacet, i upgraded then ubuntu showed error that it doesnt support hw accl then i installed but no luck
[12:47] <Nunya> how do I do that?
[12:47] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, so even grub isn't starting?
[12:47] <Vustom> I have deleted my Ubuntu partitions, and only have my Windows partition and my factory_image partition, I'm currently using Ubuntu from the LiveCD and I need to boot into /dev/sda2 but I can't do it with GRUB because it says "error: no partition.. grub rescue>"
[12:47] <Younder> My Ubuntu 11.4 install can't start the xmanager. It logs in and the fails to respond to any key or mouse commands.I managed tu shut it down and start a xaw session.
[12:48] <Shaggy2> it has to be starting I just don't get any options
[12:48] <Nunya> Incarus6 how would I reconf every package?
[12:48] <axle> I'm on a very new Lenovo Z370, 2nd generation i5, nvidia geforce 410m
[12:48] <zvacet> muneeb:  sorry I don't know my ati works
[12:48] <Shaggy2> is there a button I can press to force grub to show
[12:48] <Incarus6> Nunya, let's first check the dependencies. just to be sure, you upgraded your computer and it suddenly closed the update window and you didn't restart since then, correct?
[12:48] <muneeb> zvacet, did install drivers?
[12:48] <zvacet> Shaggy2:  shift I think
[12:48] <Nunya> correct
[12:49] <Nunya> and no the upgrade window is still open
[12:49] <Nunya> just sitting there stalled
[12:49] <zvacet> muneeb:  yes I installed fglrx from system>admin>additional drivers
[12:49] <Skei> Morning, all. I have a discrete NVIDIA video card which works well under 10.10, but there's also an integrated Intel card that Ubuntu isn't recognising / detecting. Any pointers for getting this installed ?
[12:49] <Vustom> ? :(
[12:49] <muneeb> anyone has idea about this "nspluginwrapper error"... i'm unable to install anything :(
[12:49] <Younder> It seems to be oonly the x manager I can run the apps and Datatbase etc are up
[12:49] <Incarus6> Vustom, please ask your question
[12:50] <Vustom> I did.
[12:50] <Shaggy2> YAY shift is it
[12:50] <Incarus6> Vustom, nevermind
[12:50] <Vustom> :p
[12:50] <Vustom> Incarus6: I have deleted my Ubuntu partitions, and only have my Windows partition and my factory_image partition, I'm currently using Ubuntu from the LiveCD and I need to boot into /dev/sda2 but I can't do it with GRUB because it says "error: no partition.. grub rescue>"
[12:50] <zvacet> muneeb:  paste error and then somebody will help you more info please
[12:50] <Younder> Does 11.04 mess with .Xconfig ?
[12:51] <ojii> is there a way to flag folders as 'not-to-be-indexed/searchable' by the unity launcher?
[12:51] <Incarus6> Vustom, the problem is, that when you removed the linux partition you also removed the grub files in /boot/grub, which grub needs to start.
[12:51] <robin0800> Younder, there is no .Xconfig by default
[12:51] <Vustom> D:
[12:51] <Incarus6> Vustom, Fix the mbr with a windows bootloader
[12:51] <Younder> robin0800, well where is the configuration?
[12:51] <Nunya> Incarus6 http://i52.tinypic.com/2pyx8xc.png
[12:51]  * Vustom is confused..
[12:52] <Vustom> How?
[12:52] <m|kael> how do i open more then 1 terminal in unity?
[12:52] <axle> I'm on a very new Lenovo Z370, 2nd generation i5, nvidia geforce 410m. From time to time, ubuntu won't boot, but gives me some kind of an error trace when I boot into recovery mode. It says something like "fixed recursive fault, but reboot is needed". Some times this is the last line of output before it stops, sometimes there are 2 lines about "clocksource" and "tcs" or something like that. When I reboot, I get the same error message ag
[12:52] <m_e> i wonder whats the best way to syncronize a folder between my windows and my ubuntu machine
[12:52] <webtrickster> can any one tell me how to remove unity from ubuntu 11.04
[12:52] <Soothsayer> webtrickster: you dont have to remove it
[12:53] <Incarus6> Nunya, and it stopped at this point?
[12:53] <Soothsayer> webtrickster: just pick classic during login
[12:53] <zvacet> mikael: middle muse button
[12:53] <Nunya> Incarus6 yes
[12:53] <robin0800> Younder, if you install proprietary nvidia drivers it will add it otherwise its all magic
[12:53] <Soothsayer> My boot is stuck at "Checking battery state...."
[12:53] <Soothsayer> and this is a desktop
[12:53] <webtrickster> i just want to install gnome 3
[12:53] <Soothsayer> the last thing I did was configured my second monitor in Nvidia Server X Settings dialog
[12:53] <mtlife> ok can anyone help me? Im out of ideas. I upgraded from lubuntu 10.10 too 11.04, everything seemed fine. Until I wanted to try out unity, so I installed gnome and unity and setup gdm as my login manager. But both gnome and unity are not working properly.
[12:53] <Soothsayer> wrote to config
[12:53] <botcity> m|kael, ctl + alt + t  for a terminal and again if you need two
 on which ubuntu version?
[12:53] <Soothsayer> and rebooting
[12:53] <mikebeecham> hi guys...can anyone advise how to enable nvidia recommended drivers?
[12:53] <axle> webtrickster: bad idea, very bad idea... I tried it myself, it f*cked up my whole system :/
[12:54] <mikebeecham> I'm being told that I have activated them, but they're not in use
[12:54] <webtrickster> 11.04
[12:54] <muneeb> please someone check this error...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600694/
[12:54] <robin0800> webtrickster, it will break unity
[12:54] <mtlife> With gnome I do get the panel, but no minimize/maximize buttons or draggable panels. On unity the panel seems to be completely missing
[12:54] <Psychobudgie> webtrickster, there is a guide on the official forums to adding the gnome 3 ppa if you wish to
[12:54] <mtlife> any ideas?
[12:54] <Younder> robin0800, I do have a proprietary NVidea driver, yes
 to write to me first write my name (vibhav) and then press enter
[12:54] <Incarus6> Vustom, there are several ways to do this, e.g. http://www.pronetworks.org/forums/how-to-restore-vista-boot-loader-t76643.html this isn't an ubuntu related question, you can find some solutions by googling "bootloader restore"
[12:54] <muneeb> something is broken but cant figure out what!! http://paste.ubuntu.com/600694/
[12:54] <webtrickster> vibav:okay
[12:54] <Psychobudgie> webtrickster, however be aware if you proceed with gnome 3 you cannot roll back to unity or gnome 2
[12:55] <Shaggy2> ok I have done the apt-get -f install, there was nothing to install
[12:55] <m|kael> botcity: is there a manual somewhere that sumarize all those shortcuts?
[12:55] <Incarus6> Nunya, interesting Font. Lets try "sudo stop cups"
[12:55] <robin0800> younder then you can run nvidia config to create it
[12:55] <Nunya> ok
[12:55] <Incarus6> Nunya, and paste output if errors appear
[12:55] <Bully> 有人嗎?
[12:55] <LjL> !cn | bully
[12:55] <mikebeecham> the only option I have is to "remove" the driver...which I obviously dont want to do since it's recommended
[12:55] <webtrickster> Psychobudgie: plz tell me the procedure or give me any link
[12:55] <Incarus6> LjL, are you sure its chinese?
[12:55] <Bully> 妳誰?
[12:55] <Younder> robin0800, Thanks I'll try
[12:56] <zvacet> muneeb:  in terminal sudo dpkg --configure -a
[12:56] <LjL> Incarus6: quite sure
[12:56] <Shaggy2> ok I have done the apt-get -f install, there was nothing to install
[12:56] <muneeb> zvacet, i'll try thanks
[12:56] <Psychobudgie> webtrickster, goto the forums and do a search for 'gnome 3 ppa'
[12:56] <Guest5681> !jp | bully
[12:56] <zvacet> muneeb:  yw
[12:56] <LjL> it wasn't japanese
[12:56] <dmartinng> 你好
[12:56] <Nunya> Incarus6 cups is stopped now
[12:57] <webtrickster> Psychobudgie:okay i'll try thanks
[12:57] <Incarus6> LjL, yes, it's chinese
[12:57] <Marsha||[a]> can i ask for help here ?
[12:57] <dmartinng> uhhi understood it, in chinese
[12:57] <dmartinng> bully asked if there was anyone around
[12:57] <Incarus6> Nunya, and the upgrade process doesn't continue?
[12:57] <muneeb> zvacet, same error :(
[12:57] <Psychobudgie> webtrickster, if you are struggling to use the forums you really shouldn't consider moving to gnome 3
[12:57] <Bully> 幹你娘
[12:57] <LjL> Marsha||[a]: that's what the channel is for, yes
[12:57] <Nunya> I think it might be  :D
[12:57] <Marsha||[a]> great :D
[12:57] <Marsha||[a]> need help with linux
[12:57] <bazhang> Bully, stop that
[12:57] <Incarus6> Nunya, try "sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart"
[12:58] <LjL> Bully: 请到华人#ubuntu-cn
 Yes?
[12:58] <Skei> Morning, all. I have a discrete NVIDIA video card which works well under 10.10, but there's also an integrated Intel card that Ubuntu isn't recognising / detecting. Any pointers for getting this installed ?
[12:58] <bazhang> LjL, that was really foul, what he said
[12:58] <muneeb> zvacet, http://paste.ubuntu.com/600696/
[12:58] <botcity> no but type short in the search bar in the main menu and it brings up keyboard shortcuts click that and view all the shortcuts and maybe create some of your own!
[12:58] <Incarus6> Skei, can you paste "dmesg"?
[12:58] <robin0800> In natty uses start and stop services now
[12:58] <Marsha||[a]> need to allocate empty space in one HDD & merge it with the 2nd HDD empty space to make a LVM
[12:58] <botcity> m|kael,
[12:58] <webtrickster> Psychobudgie: okay , is there any other distro which comes with gnome 3 other than fedora 15
[12:58] <Marsha||[a]> install HyperVM on it
[12:59] <Incarus6> robin0800, the old "sudo /etc/init.d/cups restart" doesn't work anymore?
[12:59] <m|kael> botcity: yes?
[12:59] <rigved> hi everyone...can anyone tell me how to change the defaultguration in gconf-editor: apps --> metacity --> general, but it did n button layout in 11.04 unity 3d? i tried changing the configuration in gconf-editor: apps --> metacity --> general, but it did not work. any help?
[12:59] <Psychobudgie> webtrickster, not at the moment although suse has it in its repositories
[12:59] <pog> hello, since 10.04 I have a problem with "sun-accent-keys" so a user can't enter french signs with like circonflex e.
[12:59] <zvacet> muneeb:  sudo apt-get autoremove sudo apt-get clean to make space
[12:59] <Nunya> Incarus6 I got this: Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[12:59] <rigved> *default configuration
[12:59] <Nunya> Upstart job, you may also use the stop(8) and then start(8) utilities,
[12:59] <Nunya> e.g. stop cups ; start cups. The restart(8) utility is also available.
[12:59] <mikebeecham> hi guys...can anyone advise how to enable nvidia recommended drivers?
[12:59] <mikebeecham> the only option I have is to "remove" the driver...which I obviously dont want to do since it's recommended
[12:59] <botcity> m|kael, type short in the search bar in the main menu and it brings up keyboard shortcuts click that and view all the shortcuts and maybe create some of your own!
[12:59] <mikebeecham> the only option I have is to "remove" the driver...which I obviously dont want to do since it's recommended
[12:59] <FloodBot2> mikebeecham: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:59] <T-One> hey, i want to reasamble a livecd of ubuntu 10.10 with static resolv.conf entries. i have loopemounted the squashfs and copied into a new folder, added the correct resolv.conf and made a new squasfs out of it via mksquashfs, but if i boot the new livecd there is no ubuntu live cd user, i'm stuck at the gdm login-screen, is there anything special i have to consider if i reassamble the squashfs of the livecd ?
[12:59] <Incarus6> Nunya, nevermind. type "sudo start cups"
[12:59] <m|kael> botcity: thanks
[13:00] <Nunya> Incarus6 thank YOU so much it looks like the upgrade is now going thru!!!   :D
[13:00] <Nunya> oh happy days  \o/
[13:00] <robin0800> Incarus6, think it still works just tells you you should't use it
[13:00] <rigved> *default button layout <-- that's what i meant
[13:00] <Skei> Incarus6, it's about 750 lines, sorry : http://pastebin.com/6kLDH0Gj
[13:00] <Incarus6> Nunya, that was just luck. you're welcome
[13:00] <muneeb> zvacet, ok executing autoremove...
[13:00] <Nunya> heheh   \o/ woot!
[13:01] <Marsha||[a]> anybody ? :x
[13:01] <bazhang> Marsha||[a], anybody what?
[13:01] <Nunya> Incarus6 if you dont mind Ill hang here for a few in case I run into issues
[13:01] <Marsha||[a]> need to allocate empty space in one HDD & merge it with the 2nd HDD empty space to make a LVM
[13:01] <Nunya> and thank you again!!!!
[13:02] <Incarus6> Skei, I think Intel Sany Bridge isn't yet fully supported in the linux kernel
[13:02] <Shaggy2> how do I load into gnome from the cli?
[13:02] <Marsha||[a]> so i can install HyperVM on it
[13:02] <mansoor> I am trying to install Gnome-Shell on a fresh Ubuntu 11.4 install but when I type sudo apt-get install upgr-desktop-g3 it gives me this: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[13:02] <mansoor>  ugr-desktop-g3 : Recommends: gnome-themes but it is not going to be installed
 type startx
[13:02] <zvacet> muneeb:  execute both commands
[13:02] <mansoor> Could anyone help me with  my problem
[13:03] <vibhav> mansoor> Yes?
[13:03] <vibhav> mansoor  Yes?
[13:03] <Incarus6> !ask | mansoor
[13:03] <muneeb> zvacet, it's giving same error of not enough space but there's 4GB space
[13:03] <Marsha||[a]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600698/
[13:03] <pog> does anybody know how to archive (in 10.04) signs like two points and U Capital, for Capital U-Umlaut?  same mechanism with french special signs (which I look  for a solution).
[13:03] <Marsha||[a]> there
[13:03] <michaels> hi!  is it possible to run natty 64 bit on macbook 2,1? and if so, is it a good idea? which version would you choose?
[13:03] <Shaggy2> after typing startx I get: fatal server error: No screens found.
[13:03] <Shaggy2> seems like the 11.04 install didn't work correctly
[13:03] <Incarus6> Skei, line 711 "[   12.440031] agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: Intel Sandybridge Chipset"
[13:03] <zvacet> muneeb:  on your root partition?
[13:03] <rigved> mansoor: what does your sources.list say?
 there is a seperate Mac version
 Your have an Intel MAc?
 Your have an Intel Mac?
[13:04] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, are you using a nvidia graphic card?
[13:04] <michaels> vibhav: yes, intel mac
[13:04] <vibhav> ok
[13:04] <Shaggy2> yes
[13:04] <zvacet> by see you soon
[13:04] <m|kael> botcity: how do i make a shortcut for gnome-do?
[13:04] <mansoor> rigved,  let me find out. Also, i am following this tut http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutorials/linux-distributions/linux-distributions4-ubuntu/1625-how-to-install-gnome3-in-ubuntu-1104-natty-via-ppa.html
 Let me tell you the link
[13:04] <Seta00> uh, did anyone here get Dropbox working on Nautilus 3?
[13:04] <feisar> Hi, just installed Natty, how do I configure which time servers to use now?
[13:04] <Seta00> (icons/context menu)
[13:04] <michaels> vibhav: is this mac-version official? is it natty?
[13:04] <Shaggy2> Incarus6: Yes I am using nVidia
[13:05] <feisar> it seems natty is set to 'automatically get time from the internet' but I don't know what it's using to do it or how to configure it
 Yes, there is even a PS3 and a Power PC version
[13:05] <bazhang> michaels, yes, intel is the regular one
[13:05] <bazhang> vibhav, for natty?
 yes
[13:05] <Shaggy2> Incarus6: it has 3 screen to choose from
[13:05] <rigved> feisar: click on thr time shown on the top right. then click on time settings
[13:05] <muneeb> zvacet, yes
[13:06] <mikebeecham> can anyone guide me on getting recommened nvidia drivers to activate AND enable?>
[13:06] <botcity> m|kael, does gnome-do work with unity
[13:06] <michaels> vibhav, bazhang: thanks... i'll do a google!
[13:06] <mansoor> rigved, my sources.list: http://pastie.org/1846993
[13:06] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, your graphic card driver isn't loading, imo. You could download the binary driver from nvidia.com and install it by hand. You got 3 screens?
[13:06] <Marsha||[a]> need to allocate empty space in one HDD & merge it with the 2nd HDD empty space to make a LVM  ill just tell you the link
[13:06] <m|kael> botcity: yeah if i start it from terminal with gnome-do &
[13:06] <heedlu> Hi, two questions. How do I add widgets to the toolbar, and is there anyway to disable "run a command" from showing when I switch to desktop 2?
[13:06] <bazhang> michaels, www.ubuntu.com
[13:06] <feisar> rigved: thanks but there is not an option for changning which time servers it gets the time from
[13:06] <michaels> ok
[13:06] <Shaggy2> yes, 3 screens on 2 nVidia cards
[13:07] <Shaggy2> can you point me to a help doc on installing the nVidia drivers?
[13:07] <pog> I found a solution, the was a keyboard swiss out of date, whith correct results. fuer the Umlauts.
[13:07] <p_res> 11.04 release has brought me back to ubuntu. :-)
 http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/ubuntu-11.04-dvd-i386.iso for the 32 bit MAc
[13:07] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log just to make sure its a problem with the driver?
[13:07] <Skei> Incarus6, yes, it's a 1155 socket. So the graphics adaptor isn't supported ?
[13:07] <knick> Bah, i dont like the new graphical stuff in ubuntu
[13:07] <muneeb> need help http://paste.ubuntu.com/600696/
[13:07] <rigved> feisar: hmmm...i think that this info is saved in a file, you could edit that
[13:07] <knick> annoying that menu, perhaps i need to get used to it
[13:07] <bazhang> vibhav, he may not want the dvd
[13:07] <axle> I'm on a very new Lenovo Z370, 2nd generation i5, nvidia geforce 410m. From time to time, ubuntu won't boot, but gives me some kind of an error trace when I boot into recovery mode. It says something like "fixed recursive fault, but reboot is needed". Some times this is the last line of output before it stops, sometimes there are 2 lines about "clocksource" and "tcs" or something like that. When I reboot, I get the same error message ag
 then use this guide... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook
[13:08] <Shaggy2> Incarus6: I have just re read the screen output, it say's that screens were found but none with a usable confiuration
[13:08] <botcity> m|kael, ok then click add , type gnome-do in name and then below it type the terminal command for it. it should appear at the bottom of the list
[13:09] <feisar> rigved: yeah, I think it's using ntpdate which is only good for setting time initially
[13:09] <BlouBlou> how to install a nvidia driver manually? I mean without aditional-drivers app
[13:09] <michaels> vibhav: thanks, but this I already knew... :-(
[13:09] <jpohl> where does ubuntu set the permissions for who is allowed to shutdown and/or reboot?
 Ohhh....
[13:09] <m|kael> botcity: ive tried that but nothing happens :/
 did you rty it then?
[13:09] <r3dux> BlouBlou, you wanted Nvidia-current or Nvidia_current
[13:09] <Shaggy2> Incarus6:  also say's that it doesn't support the pci card I have, but didn't say anything about the pcie card
[13:09] <michaels> vibhav: rty?
[13:09] <r3dux> "want"
[13:10] <LjL> jpohl: probably part of the "admin" group by default, but i think there is also a separate group for those who are able to shutdown if desired
[13:10] <rafii> axle: may you should do clean install? will be faster than finding a problem with current instalation
[13:10] <muneeb> can anyone help me?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/600696/
[13:10] <p_res> although i can see why some users may not like the changes, i think anyone can adapt to them if you give them a chance. i did and i'm now enjoying it.
[13:10] <r3dux> Definitely "nvidia-current"
[13:10] <BlouBlou> r3dux: I want to install an older one
[13:10] <botcity> m|kael, ehh one min!
[13:10] <p_res> returned from fedora and opensuse.
[13:10] <m|kael> ok:-)
[13:10] <mutante> where is a "24 GB RAM" limit? i read there may be one for some CPUs? i can see 4 Pcs. of RAM , 8192 MB each with "dmidecode", but cat /proc/meminfo just sees 24 GB , not 32GB. CPU Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5540 quadcore.. on a Dell r710, says it would support a lot more. Linux kernel is 2.6.24-28 64-bit, Ubuntu 8.04.4 LTS
[13:10] <Incarus6> Skei, according to some websites the sandy bridge should be supported, but mention that some hardware and some features aren't supported yet ( http://phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?29110-Intel-s-Linux-Sandy-Bridge-Graphics-Still-Troubling )
[13:10] <Shaggy2> yes both cards are new
[13:10] <LjL> jpohl: or not... maybe it's really just a GDM thing
[13:11] <axle> rafii: I don't get your point, sorry. I freshly installed 11.04.
[13:11] <Incarus6> Shaggy2, can you paste the log file?
[13:11] <Skei> Incarus6, I was just reading that one, yes. So... I won't be able to get the graphics working at all ?
[13:11] <Incarus6> !paste | Shaggy2
[13:11] <r3dux> You didn't say you wanted to install an older one. May I ask why?
[13:11] <sect114> having problem with updatingto 11.4 on powerpc mac - keep getting this message:  Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/natty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?
[13:11] <BlouBlou> r3dux: do you know how ti install "93" driver?
[13:11] <muneeb> can anyone help me?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/600696/
[13:11] <Shaggy2> it's on a different system I am using a laptop running win vista
[13:11] <r3dux> You can always DL the driver of your choice and run the executable
[13:11] <Marsha||[a]> i will act like a spam bot now
[13:11] <Marsha||[a]> keep on posting lol
[13:11] <jrib> LjL, jpohl: probably policy-kit related
[13:11] <Marsha||[a]> need to allocate empty space in one HDD & merge it with the 2nd HDD empty space to make a LVM [13:11] <mutante> muneeb: "gzip: stdout: No space left on device
[13:12] <mutante> muneeb: hard disk full ?!
[13:12] <r3dux> i.e. chmod +x nvidia_driver_blah && ./nvidia_driver_blah
[13:12] <Skei> Incarus6, apparently, the latest Ubuntu has alpha support for Sandy Bridge. Yay. :P
[13:12] <Incarus6> Skei, not yet, IMO. It could work with the next kernel 2.6.39 or the mainline kernel, Im not sure if something changed in this kernel
[13:12] <chandru_in> Is it possible to change the directories that are searched by the launcher?
[13:12] <Tobbi|Ubuntu> Heya. When I try to compile something and try to run ./configure I keep getting Permission denied. Any pointers?
[13:12] <muneeb> mutante, theres 4GB space on /
[13:12] <BlouBlou> if I unistall xorg, I won't be able to loging, right?
[13:12] <Skei> Incarus6, I misread that. The latest alpha Ubuntu release has support for it. The release is no longer in alpha, but full stable. I might have a chance if I upgrade my distro.
[13:12] <LjL> Tobbi|Ubuntu: try chown -R yourusername:yourusername director_where_the_source_resites/
[13:13] <mutante> muneeb: it tries to do something in /boot though
[13:13] <muneeb> but i have /boot and theres only 9MB :(
[13:13] <muneeb> mutante, what to do then?
[13:13] <axle> Skei, Incarus6 : not sure what you're talking about, but I'm running ubuntu on a sandybridge quite well, except for the bug I already posted in here :)
[13:13] <feisar> where can I find an in depth list of changes made in ubuntu 11.04?
[13:13] <axle> I'm on a very new Lenovo Z370, 2nd generation i5, nvidia geforce 410m. From time to time, ubuntu won't boot, but gives me some kind of an error trace when I boot into recovery mode. It says something like "fixed recursive fault, but reboot is needed". Some times this is the last line of output before it stops, sometimes there are 2 lines about "clocksource" and "tcs" or something like that. When I reboot, I get the same error message ag
[13:13] <r3dux> Tobbi - the directory you're in doesn't have sufficient permissions for some reason. Change to a user with permissions, or grant permissions to the entire subdirectory recursively (i.e. every in it, all the way to the bottom)
[13:13] <Incarus6> Skei, oh, you didn't said that you are using 10.10.. I thought you use 11.04 because this channel now supports 11.04. Yes, there is a high chance, that it will work
[13:13] <BlouBlou> guys, just a question
[13:13] <Incarus6> axle, you are running 11.04?
[13:14] <p_res> feisar: check the release notes.
[13:14] <mutante> muneeb: uhmm... make /boot larger ... ehm... using gparted.. from a Live CD
[13:14] <diaoer> i use natty now
[13:14] <BlouBlou> how to install a package like 'nvidia-glx-96' without unistall xorg and ubuntu-desktop
[13:14] <p_res> feisar: or google for change notes.
[13:14] <BlouBlou> ?
[13:14] <Skei> Incarus6, thanks. I've tried upgrading to 11.04 recently, but it failed. I'll try again. Something about a network error...
[13:14] <axle> yes. well, atm I'm on win7 because ubuntu won't boot :D
[13:14] <Incarus6> BlouBlou, correct, not the graphical way
[13:14] <axle> Incarus6: yes. well, atm I'm on win7 because ubuntu won't boot :D
[13:14] <muneeb> mutante, how much big?? i read 100MB was enough but it seems it's not
[13:14] <feisar> p_res: thanks, where can I find them?
[13:14] <botcity> m|kael, well it works for me you must not be doing something?
[13:14] <diaoer> i think gnome3 is good than natty
[13:15] <Incarus6> Skei, failed for me to, I had to downgrade some ( a lot of) packages, that the dependencies matched
[13:15] <iceroot> muneeb: just remove old unused kernels
[13:15] <Tobbi|Ubuntu> Let's see....it's chowning...
[13:15] <Tobbi|Ubuntu> :P
[13:15] <mekwall> so.... I'm trying to mount an nfs share in userspace (using unfs3), but I get the unknown filesystem errror
[13:15] <r3dux> Tobbi - for example, chown  -R <USER_TO_OWN_THE_FILES> *
[13:15] <Incarus6> axle, after the upgrade? sure intel sandy bridge is working correctly? ;)
[13:15] <p_res> feisar: just google them.
[13:15] <Skei> Incarus6, that's a major pain...
[13:15] <m|kael> botcity: what exactly did you type in then?
[13:15] <Pici> feisar: They're in the topic of this channel.
[13:15] <mekwall> anyone have any experience with ubuntu and unfs3 ?
[13:15] <sarge> Hello all does anyone have expereince with RP_filter in ubuntu sever?
[13:15] <p_res> feisar: much easier than trying to find in gui.
[13:15] <feisar> p_res: thanks found them... nothing about ntp though
[13:16] <section5> anyone here know how to ftp hack?
[13:16] <Incarus6> Skei, it was my fault, I installed foreign package repos ;)
[13:16] <bazhang> section5, pardon?
[13:16] <muneeb> iceroot, why did Natty didnt remove it?? i think there were 2 before i started upgrade
[13:16] <p_res> section5: specific?
[13:16] <Skei> Incarus6, I haven't touched repositories on this install.
[13:16] <section5> does anyone here know how to ftp server
[13:16] <section5> ?
[13:16] <botcity> m|kael, gnome-do then gnome-do
[13:16] <sarge> trying to run the following commands as SUDO and get denied" echo 0 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/wccp0/rp_filter echo"   "0 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/eth0/rp_filter"
[13:16] <LjL> !ftpd | section5
[13:16] <r3dux> ftp hack? Try #2600
[13:16] <section5> basic website hacking
[13:16] <knick> How to ftp server, lol
[13:16] <LjL> section5: this channel doesn't support illegal activities
[13:16] <heedlu> how do I add widgets to the toolbar in natty, right clicking no longer seems to work.
[13:16] <axle> Incarus6: what upgrade? it's a fresh system, downloaded the .iso yesterday... and well, now it's a little messed up, though it booted all fine the first few times ;)
[13:17] <m|kael> botcity: did you put winkey+space as the shortcut?
[13:17] <[TK]D-Fender> knick: he just completely the internet!
[13:17] <Incarus6> !ubuntu | section5
[13:17] <section5> just someone asked me at work to google it couldnt find anything on there and thought i would ask here, its for our work website
[13:17] <section5> www.surfersparadiseimports.com
[13:17] <Pici> feisar: What ntp changes were you expecting?
[13:17] <rigved> hi everyone..how do i change the default button layout in 11.04 unity 3d?
[13:17] <vibhav> sarge : serge rp-filter uses the routing table to decide which source addresses are accepted through an interface. Packets will be accepted not only if they originate from the connected network, but also if they originate from a network that (according to the routing table) is connected via that network.
[13:17] <botcity> m|kael, did it work then ?
[13:17] <knick> [TK]D-Fender: Just DL the backdoored version of proftpd to experiment with lol
[13:18] <LjL> section5: even if you're doing it to your own website, it's still offtopic here. try #ubuntu-offtopic but please make very clear what you want to do, or people will tell you it's illegal
[13:18] <rigved> gconf-editor does not seem to work for this
[13:18] <Incarus6> !op | section5
[13:18] <Pici> Incarus6: Thats not needed.
[13:18] <m|kael> botcity: no its not working with winkey+space like i put as shortcut
[13:18] <LjL> Incarus6: ops are watching
[13:18] <Incarus6> Pici, sorry
[13:18] <sarge> vibhav: i need to disable rp_filter functioning in order to setup Transparent Proxy though WCCPV2 with my ASA cisco box
[13:18] <[TK]D-Fender> knick: This wasn't for me.  I was just sharing your poking fun at some tragic grammar...
[13:18] <knick> [TK]D-Fender: yeah i love it when people dont speak proper english, they bring certain things in such a fun way!
[13:19] <m4rtin> Hi all, got a non-booting system that needs a dpkg --configure -a. Doing so gives an IO error: /sbin/ldconfig.real cannot lstat /usr/lib/libkdeinit4_khelpcenter.so
[13:19] <sarge> vibhav: they are not compatiable
[13:19] <feisar> Pici: 'synchronise time with internet servers' is now ticked by default but ntp is not installed. I would like to know how it is synchronising and how I can change the servers it uses
[13:19] <m4rtin> any idea how I can recover, please!
[13:19] <iceroot> muneeb: that is a great feature its not removing old kernels. what if the new kernel is not booting what will you choose then?
[13:19] <Incarus6> axle, so it stopped working?
[13:19] <LjL> feisar: perhaps "ntpdate" is installed? not sure
 I am not so experienced with ubuntu server ... can you post it in the ubuntu fourms ...
[13:19] <diaoer> is natty had installed build-essential default?
[13:19] <feisar> Ljl: it is, do you know where  it's config file is?
[13:19] <muneeb> iceroot, hmm
[13:19] <illsci> Is there any solution to the white screen of death following the recent upgrade?
[13:19] <sarge> vibhav: alright
[13:19] <Pici> feisar:
[13:19] <botcity> m|kael, after clicking add did you type the name that you would like at the top and the "terminal command" in the bottom
[13:19] <Pici> feisar: That is a very good question.  Hm...
 Good Luck
[13:20] <LjL> feisar: /etc/default/ntpdate
[13:20] <axle> Incarus6: yes. I had the same problem with the beta, which randomly booted correctly or gave me the exact same error
[13:20] <AceKing> I have a question.. I encrypted my home folder when installing 10.10. If I install 11.04 on a new HDD, and hook up the old HDD through USB, will I be able to access my files in the Home folder of the old drive?
[13:20] <feisar> Ljl: thanks
[13:20] <Pici> LjL: Ah.
[13:20] <LjL> Pici: at least in Hardy ;)
[13:20] <botcity> m|kael, you add the short cut after that!
[13:20] <m|kael> botcity: yeah name "gnome-do" command "gnome-do" ive tried mod4+z and mod4+space mod4=winkey
[13:20] <dkeulen> hey all, anyone could help me with a vnc problem with 11.04?
[13:20] <DamienCassou> AceKing: that's the kind of question that always prevented me from encrypting. But I'm sure there is a way
[13:20] <Pici> LjL: Yeah, still here in natty server.
[13:20] <m4rtin> anybody, please?
[13:21] <Incarus6> axle, sry, I can't help you with that ;) I think Im going to test Natty now (restarting)
[13:21] <botcity> m|kael, ok
[13:21] <illsci> I wouldn't
[13:21] <illsci> Everytime my screen locks it goes into a white screen and I can't ever get out of it
[13:21] <axle> good luck Incarus6 :)
[13:21] <AceKing> DamienCassou, that's what I'm figuring. I just have to find a way how to do it
[13:21] <dkeulen> anyone knows wat the problem could be with vnc not showing the windows on 11.04
[13:21] <LjL> m4rtin: have you checked your HDD physical state? do you have smartmontools installed?
[13:21] <Nunya> Incarus6 is my hero!  \o/
[13:21] <muneeb> please help me out... http://paste.ubuntu.com/600709/
[13:21] <Nunya> lol
[13:21] <Incarus6> Nunya ;D
[13:21] <wolf__> my system always hangs
[13:22] <m|kael> botcity: i still dont understand why gnome-do isnt standard in ubuntu :(
[13:22] <m|kael> botcity: its such a lovely tool :)
[13:22] <wolf__> is the prob in the system or my lap top ?
[13:22] <Naphidia> what are the packages needed typically for gtk for python /
[13:22] <DamienCassou> m|kael: not maintained anymore I would say. And unity is replacing it
[13:22] <Incarus6> Skei, I hope the upgrade is solving your problem
[13:22] <zis> anyone know how to resize a window ?
[13:22] <Skei> Incarus6, selected another server and will try it now. Will let you know.
[13:22] <wolf__> i need some help over here pls guyes
[13:23] <Soothsayer> woot! Got the graphics card working
[13:23] <Soothsayer> and dual monitor
[13:23] <dkeulen> anyone knows why vnc to ubuntu 11.04 is not working? i see my desktop but nothing is responding when i click on it
[13:23]  * Incarus6 is restarting, brb
[13:23] <m|kael> DamienCassou: ok
[13:23] <wolf__> i don't know why always my system hangs ?
[13:23] <LjL> wolf__: i have no idea, but you should check the logs after it hangs. "dmgs" and "cat /var/log/kern.log" and the likes.
[13:23] <LjL> wolf__: "dmesg", even.
[13:23] <m4rtin> LjL: it dumps to what looks like an initramfs error (with kernel output lines) on normal boot
[13:23] <dkeulen> anyone knows why vnc to ubuntu 11.04 is not working? i see my desktop but nothing is responding when i click on it
[13:24] <wolf__> what is dmesg?
[13:24] <m4rtin> LjL: I've got a recovery prompt off a live CD and have chrooted into the old env
[13:24] <Naphidia> getting this error...
[13:24] <DamienCassou> dkeulen: if nobody answers, nobody knows
[13:24] <Naphidia> /usr/share/kernelcheck/scripts/main.py:608: GtkWarning: gdk_screen_get_width: assertion `GDK_IS_SCREEN (screen)' failed
[13:24] <Naphidia>   self.widgets = gtk.glade.XML(KCHECK_UI + "kernelcheck.glade")
[13:24] <Naphidia> /usr/share/kernelcheck/scripts/main.py:608: PangoWarning: pango_layout_get_line_count: assertion `layout != NULL' failed
[13:24] <Naphidia>   self.widgets = gtk.glade.XML(KCHECK_UI + "kernelcheck.glade")
[13:24] <FloodBot2> Naphidia: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:24] <muneeb> someone look at this... http://paste.ubuntu.com/600709/
[13:24] <m4rtin> LjL: the file it is looking for is not there, looking like an aborted apt-get upgrade was run
[13:24] <LjL> m4rtin: so when running from CD everything works correctly?
[13:24] <AceKing> DamienCassou, I just found a link that says how to do it. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Live CD method of opening a encrypted home directory
[13:24] <LjL> m4rtin: yeah but the "I/O error" is what worries me
[13:24] <DamienCassou> wolf__: a command you can type in the terminal which displays useful logs
[13:24] <m4rtin> LjL: I can get a recovery shell and mount the HDD, yes
[13:24] <m4rtin> LjL: the IO error is just referring to file not found, I believe
[13:24] <Naphidia> anyone know what im missing?
[13:25] <ratcheer> I upgraded to Natty and could not run Firefox 4 as my primary user. I uninstalled and reinstalled FF, now I can Start FF with a terminal command (/usr/lib/firefox-4.0/firefox.sh), but the Unity Firefox icon will not start it. How can I reconnect the Unity icon to the app?
[13:25] <Soothsayer> how do I make the Unity bar on the left smaller ?
[13:25] <dkeulen> how can nobody knows this freaking bug is alive since v8 by google
[13:25] <tashkas> MC-Router API already in use; Errno(98): Address already in use
[13:25] <tashkas> how to fix that one
[13:25] <tashkas> trying to run igmpproxy
[13:25] <LjL> m4rtin: well i don't know, but for me a file not found error never was given as an I/O error, while I/O error has always meant there was something wrong reading the actual disk. so i still suggest you install smartmontools in the live CD and give the HDD a check.
[13:26] <Soothsayer> ok Unity is not that bad
[13:26] <Soothsayer> You just need to get use to it
[13:26] <Soothsayer> I can see a lot of potential.
[13:26] <DamienCassou> Soothsayer: type ccsm in a terminal
[13:26] <botcity> m|kael, i think the main search is a version of that behaves similar!
[13:26] <pumeust> hello how do i save changes in crontab?
[13:26] <jrib> pumeust: how did you edit it?
[13:27] <LjL> pumeust: the user crontab, or the global crontab?
[13:27] <m4rtin> LjL: ok, will do, but the file doesn't exist, so it can't read it....
[13:27] <DamienCassou> Soothsayer: I agree, but it's buggy now
[13:27] <Al-Bawi> hi there , i want to upgrade to 11.04 in command line , how can i do it?
[13:27] <m|kael> botcity: ok, well i haxed gnome-do settings and binded ctrl+space to start it
[13:27] <jrib> !upgrade | Al-Bawi
[13:27] <BlouBlou> Well, I fixed my graphic card problem. It was installing but not being used. I'll explain how I fixed it for if someone has this error: I unistalled NVdia oficial driver, I rebooted, I installed open experimental driver and I rebooted again. Now Unity works (but anyways I won't use it :P)
[13:27] <pumeust> jrib, i edited it in the terminal
[13:27] <jrib> Al-Bawi: follow the server instructions (do-release-upgrade)
[13:28] <DamienCassou> pumeust: $ crontab -e
[13:28] <jrib> pumeust: be more specific
[13:28] <Al-Bawi> thanks
[13:28] <botcity> Soothsayer, its performing better than the 1010 unity for netbook so far.
[13:28] <nevvermind1> uhm... yeah. i've just chmod'ed everything to "www-data" user. including "/etc/sudoers". any chance I can "sudo su root" again? i'm currently stuck with user "ubuntu".
[13:28] <Elliot_Erased> Hi
[13:28] <pumeust> LjL, i'm not sure if its user or global
[13:28] <LjL> m4rtin: that file is in this package: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/khelpcenter4 so you can always install this in the live CD, and then copy the file over to your HD.
[13:28] <Elliot_Erased> I encountered a problem while installing 11.04
[13:28] <Soothsayer> botcity: I cannot tell vouch for its performance cause im on a quadcore with 4 gb ram here.
[13:28] <Soothsayer> but looks fast
[13:28] <LjL> pumeust: what did you type to edit it
[13:28] <jrib> nevvermind1: if you really mean everything when you say "everything", then it's time to reinstall
[13:28] <Soothsayer> just the unity bar on the left is ugly
[13:29] <Soothsayer> and big
[13:29] <Soothsayer> and bulky
[13:29] <FloodBot2> Soothsayer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:29] <KNUBBIG> Soothsayer: you may resize it if it's too big for you :)
[13:29] <ubuntu> marco
[13:29] <Elliot_Erased> When I'm doing the install, it fails while installing GRUB
[13:29] <nevvermind1> thx, jrib
[13:29] <botcity> KNUBBIG, how?
[13:29] <pumeust> LjL, i typed a command to schedule a task
[13:29] <kandinski> I am having a weird interaction between irssi/gnome-terminal/natty: alt-w, which before upgrading to natty took me to the 12th irssi screen, on gnome terminal selects all text in the terminal, despite alt-w not being listed as a keyboard shortcut either on gnome-terminal or on gnome. Any idea what it can be and how to fix it?
[13:29] <jrib> nevvermind1: and don't « sudo su root ».  If you really need a root shell, use « sudo -i »
[13:29] <KNUBBIG> botcity: ccsm -> unity -> change icon size
[13:29] <Elliot_Erased> the error given is that it can not install it.
[13:29] <LjL> pumeust: right, what command
[13:29] <DamienCassou> Soothsayer: 'ccsm' in the terminal to make it smaller
[13:30] <ubuntu> cll
[13:30] <kjesle> Has anyone succesfully installed gnome3 with natty?'
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> I wonder if theres a FAQ url for tweaking unity in ways they dont want you to.... yet.
[13:30] <ubuntu> c s
[13:30] <pumeust> DamienCassou says $ crontab -e, won't that work?
[13:30] <KNUBBIG> !gnome3 > kjesle
[13:30] <botcity> KNUBBIG, thankyou i will look into that !
[13:30] <KNUBBIG> botcity: no problem :) Worked fine for me
[13:30] <Soothsayer> What's the keyboard shortcut for the launcher ?
[13:30] <DamienCassou> pumeust: use 'crontab -e' to edit your crontab file
[13:30] <LjL> pumeust: "crontab -e" will let you edit the user's crontab, yes
[13:30] <KNUBBIG> Soothsayer: Alt + f2
[13:31] <pumeust> DamienCassou, thanks i'll try it
[13:31] <mvip> Anyone know when/if "do-release-upgrade" will work from 10.04 to 11.04?
[13:32] <mvip> Right now I'm just getting 'No new release found'
[13:32] <KNUBBIG> mvip: did you tell your system to look for non-LTS-releases?
[13:32] <romain__> pd
[13:32] <mvip> KNUBBIG: no, 11.04 is a LTS release, isn't it?
[13:32] <Pici> mvip: no.
[13:32] <KNUBBIG> mvip: no
[13:32] <mvip> oh, damn =)
[13:32] <Pici> mvip: LTSes are released every 2 years.
[13:32] <heedlu> how do I add widgets to the toolbar in natty? right clicking no longer seems to work.
[13:32] <mvip> oh, that explains a bit
[13:33] <mvip> ok, then I don't need to update. Thnx guys
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> heedlu:  you install various indicator-applets. the old applets domnt work
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[13:33] <pumeust> ok i typed 'crontab -e'. it just takes me to the editing part which is where i was. i wanted to know how to save the changes
[13:33] <jatt> heedlu: in unity?
[13:33] <infamous> good morning/afternoon all
[13:33] <Pici> pumeust: Once you save and exit that, the changes are saved.
[13:34] <LjL> pumeust: Ctrl+X
[13:34] <ajin> infamous: good night back!:-D
[13:34] <jatt> heedlu: widgets/applets are not supported in unity
[13:34] <Pici> pumeust: You should see a message after you exit: 'crontab: installing new crontab',  then its done.
[13:34] <Rigorm0rtis> In unity is there any way to separate a maximized window's titlebar from the main panel?
[13:35] <pumeust> pici oh ok i was reading info where that said if i just exit no changes will be made...maybe that's different
[13:35] <jatt> Rigorm0rtis: no
[13:35] <ajin> my ubuntu11.04 resolution suddenly changed after i logged off, do you know why? it was strange
[13:35] <Pici> pumeust: you need to save without your editor though.  It'll save to a temp file and automagically install the crontab as you exit.
[13:36] <Rigorm0rtis> Could I at least change the titlebar text color then? With the New Wave theme it is Black on dark gray for the main panel.
[13:37] <ajin> hello, anyone can help?
[13:37] <BlouBlou> ajin: if you ask something first, sure :)
[13:37] <infamous> ask away ajin
[13:37] <ken> lusers\
[13:37] <ken> exit
[13:37] <ajin> wel, my ubuntu11.04 resolution suddenly changed after i logged off, do you know why? it was strange
[13:38] <BlouBlou> ajin: Is it working fine now?
[13:38] <chewyboy000> Hi
[13:38] <rverrips> Hi All - I've got a weird thing happening in a fresh install of 11.04 - When I goto "About Me ..." and make changes, they aren't saved (There's no SAVE button, only Cancel?)
[13:38] <muneeb> what's solution for flash player in Natty??
[13:38] <chewyboy000> Hi
[13:38] <usr13> ajin: What did it change to?
[13:38] <pumeust> Pici, so i cant do it in the terminal?
[13:38] <chewyboy000> Im updateing yo version 11.04
[13:38] <ajin> i redifined, it works well now
[13:39] <green_> I sant get compiz to work after doing the upgrade on either ubuntu classic or with unity any suggestions?
[13:39] <muneeb> what's solution for flash player in Natty 64bit??
[13:39] <usr13> ajin: Ok very good
[13:39] <Pici> pumeust: Thats not what I said.  crontab -e, make changes. Save, exit.
[13:39] <BlouBlou> green_: I had to change nvidia drivers, I'm using open drivers right now and works fine with compiz
[13:39] <chewyboy000> Go to Ubuntu Soft Ware center an type "flash"
[13:39] <Incarus6> muneeb, http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/flashplugin-installer
[13:39] <proto> hi all
[13:40] <ajin> usr13: well, my lap-top resolution should be 1024*800, the X sunddenly changed it to 1024*677
[13:40] <proto> i got a strange question
[13:40] <usr13> muneeb: sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin
[13:40] <proto> i found the the ubuntu on chip.de
[13:40] <chewyboy000> Hey
[13:40] <infamous> so apt-get upgrade will upgrade the current os server 10.4 to 11.?? but what would one use to upgrade from server to desktop?
[13:40] <chewyboy000> Ge
[13:40] <pumeust> Pici,  sorry when you said i need to save without my editor i thought maybe that mean the terminal
[13:40] <physically_fit> how do i remove my username from the top bar? there's no option to do it now.
[13:40] <chewyboy000> Hey usent
[13:40] <knick> infamous: use do-release-upgrade (as root)
[13:40] <proto> i tried it with wibu the setup start then i get a error
[13:41] <Soothsayer> has Nautilus changed too?
[13:41] <muneeb> Incarus6, usr13 well i was getting errors for nspluginwrapper so i was unable to install so i was thinking is there any alternative?
[13:41] <proto> somethin linge partition not set ?!
[13:41] <wrinkliez> hey doods. is there a reason why my nvidia driver is "activated but not currently in use"?
[13:41] <usr13> muneeb: apt-cache search adobe |grep flash   #If you wanted to search for yourelf
[13:41] <jrib> infamous: if you want desktop and you are on the server, you just install the ubuntu-desktop package
[13:41] <lucydarrow> Hi, I cannot download restricted extras and vlc from software center or apt. It gives error that problem with fetching, while my connection is okay, and also the repo address, I tried main server.
[13:41] <jrib> wrinkliez: restart?
[13:41] <usr13> muneeb: apt-cache search flashplayer
[13:41] <wrinkliez> hey doods. is there a reason why my nvidia driver is "activated but not currently in use"?
[13:41] <jrib> lucydarrow: « sudo apt-get update »
[13:42] <muneeb> usr13, thanks
[13:42] <jrib> wrinkliez: restart?
[13:42] <wrinkliez> oops. jrib: sorry. tried restart. going to remove and tr again
[13:42] <chewyboy000> If you want wubi you have to go to google and search wub i10.10 and select the surgeforce link
[13:42] <wrinkliez> accidentally pushed up before enter, stupid small netbook XD
[13:42] <jrib> wrinkliez: check /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[13:42] <Soothsayer> what is that version of Nautilus that allows me to launch a terminal for the current location, etc?
[13:42] <infamous> thank you knick trying now
[13:42] <usr13> muneeb: apt-cache search flashplugin
[13:42] <proto> chewyboy000: is the wubi from ubuntu.com not working ?
[13:42] <pumeust> LjL, thanks, ctrl + x worked
[13:42] <wrinkliez> jrib: i will, thanks
[13:42] <jrib> Soothsayer: nautilus-open-terminal
[13:42] <knick> infamous: you might need to install it, im not sure if it comes by default
[13:42] <chewyboy000> yes
[13:42] <physically_fit> who's having trouble with unity 2d? the launcher doesn't appear when i move the mouse to the left.
[13:43] <lucydarrow> jrib: Okay, will try later later, currently downloading Skype.
[13:43] <chewyboy000> there is an error from wubi on ubuntu.com
[13:43] <Pici> chewyboy000: There is nothing wrong with the one on Ubuntu.com
[13:43] <Soothsayer> and how do I make Nautilus more minimal ?
[13:43] <usr13> muneeb: I ment for you to search for flashplugin  rather than flashplayer
[13:43] <Soothsayer> remove icons, etc
[13:43] <Pici> proto: Exact error messages would be very helpful for us to help you figure out how to fix this.
[13:43] <Pici> chewyboy000: Why do you say that?
[13:43] <chewyboy000> i used wubi from ubuntu.com and it said "failed to get files"
[13:44] <muneeb> usr13, i got it.. but both results show Adobe's solution.. which i  think wont work on my system
[13:44] <physically_fit> is it possible to remove my username from the top bar? there's no option to do it now.
[13:44] <linxeh> Bunneh: :P
[13:44] <Bunneh> :)
[13:44] <proto> Pici: something about partition not set ! it says i shall try it with the partition tool but how i cant find it ?!
[13:44] <Vardan> hi all
[13:44] <Pici> proto: 'something about...' isn't an extact error message.
[13:44] <chewyboy000> proto: thats the problem im having
[13:44] <ajin> anyway, ubuntu11.04 is terrific!
[13:44] <Vardan> people is there any configuration place where can I configure left side bar speed?
[13:45] <ajin> i love UNITY!
[13:45] <infamous> ok knick the do returns no new releases found even with the --mode=desktop argument added any ideas
[13:45] <proto> ok i try to remember ....
[13:45] <misse-> ajin: I'm happy for you
[13:45] <physically_fit> you must love it
[13:45] <m|kael> will it screw up unity if i install gnome3? or can i run them both parallel?
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> Vardan:  check the ccsm unity plugin
[13:45] <Soothsayer> what's the SHORTCUT key for the launcher
[13:45] <Soothsayer> ?
[13:45] <Dr_Willis> m|kael:  they break each other i hear.
[13:45] <tesdsfsfdfds> hello i have a question, i dont like unity, which alternatives are there ?
[13:45] <m|kael> =(
[13:45] <jrib> tesdsfsfdfds: classic? gnome3?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> tesdsfsfdfds:  claddic gnome desktop is there..
[13:46] <knick> infamous: What version shows up with 'cat /etc/lsb-release' ?
[13:46] <Dr_Willis> classic :)
[13:46] <tesdsfsfdfds> gnome3 i dont like too
[13:46] <tesdsfsfdfds> but classic is super
[13:46] <wrinkliez> m|kael i heard the same
[13:46] <geirha> tesdsfsfdfds: You mean the run dialog? Alt+F2
[13:46] <james296> can anyone tell me if its possible to configure how fast the mouse scroll wheel scrolls through anything?
[13:46] <tesdsfsfdfds> no
[13:46] <m|kael> i guess i have to test gnome3 in vm then
[13:46] <izinucs> tesdsfsfdfds: kubuntu w/ the kde interface.. you can have them both loaded at the same time and choose on login which you want to use
[13:46] <infamous> ubuntu 10.04.1 LTS
[13:47] <infamous> lucid
[13:47] <tesdsfsfdfds> infamous: why dont 10.04.2 ?
[13:47] <Soothsayer> how do I restart Nautilus ?
[13:47] <geirha> tesdsfsfdfds: Oops, sorry, wrong nick
[13:47] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  try killall nautilus, then rerun nautilus
[13:47] <geirha> Soothsayer: By launcher, you mean the run dialog? Alt+F2
[13:47] <izinucs> tesdsfsfdfds: that's actually what infamous has..
[13:48] <knick> infamous: have you performed an 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -y'  as root?
[13:48] <zap0> how do you make it use a different mirror?    im trying to upgrade and it gets 404 on 4 packages
[13:48] <knick> infamous: i.e. the latest updates?
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/become-a-natty-power-user-in-no-time-using-this-unit-keyboard-shortcuts-wallpaper/
[13:48] <Dr_Willis> heh. thats handy...
[13:49] <coz_>  hey guys,, just out of complete confusion , what is  this?  http://susegallery.com/a/vkjufU/ubuntu-1111-beta-2
[13:49] <coz_> understand I just woke up lol
[13:49] <usr13> zap0: You could edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:49] <Soothsayer> shortcut for launcher again?
[13:49] <Soothsayer> :-(
[13:49] <Dr_Willis> coz_:  misssnamed file perhaps.
[13:50] <Vardan> Dr_Willis:  should I install it, or it installing automatically?
[13:50] <KNUBBIG> Soothsayer: Alt F2
[13:50] <coz_> Dr_Willis,   phew I thought I moved into the future :)
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Vardan:  install what?
[13:50] <zniavre_> coz_,  haha
[13:50] <Vardan> ccsm
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> Vardan:  its not installed by default..
[13:50] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[13:50] <Incarus6> back. Unity is disappointing in 11.04
[13:50] <Glacia> hello: quick question. Is there an easy guide out there to teach how to SSH to different devices?
[13:51] <coz_> Incarus6,  how is it disappointing for you?
[13:51] <toggles> Anyone know how to configure unity? I'd like to setup Super + N = File->New
[13:51] <zap0> usr13, ok, found it,  where can i get some alternative mirror addresses?
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  ssh ip.of.device.number
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  thats about all there is to it. :)
[13:51] <Incarus6> coz_, it's not working for me (and gnome looks ugly and is old) :D I'm using KDE, just wanted to test Unity
[13:51] <toggles> or maybe someone could tell me how to start a new copy of terminal without requiring three keys
[13:51] <infamous> im going to try something thanks
[13:51] <Glacia> Dr_willis: how do i find the ip of said device
[13:51] <usr13> Glacia: man ssh
[13:51] <Dr_Willis> toggles:  ccsm has some settings in the unity plugin.
[13:51] <Glacia> Dr_willis: via terminal
[13:52] <mikebot> Is there any way to increase the performance of ubuntu? For some reason it is running slower than my windows :? (I installed it on the same partition.)
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  check the device. or scan your network with nmap or other tools.
[13:52] <Soothsayer> found it, it's the Super button
[13:52] <coz_> Incarus6,   so you tried calssic gnome or Unity with the side launcher?
[13:52] <toggles> Dr_Willis: ccsm?
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[13:52] <wrinkliez> is there a way to get firefox using the overlay scrollbars?
[13:52] <toggles> Dr_Willis: Grazie, found with apt-cache
[13:52] <Incarus6> coz_ both, gnome classic is working as usual, and Unity isn't shown up correctly
[13:52] <Soothsayer> How can I 'remove' the maximize button
[13:52] <Soothsayer> its quite redundant
[13:52] <KNUBBIG> toggles: compizconfig-settings-manager installable via sudo apt-get install
[13:52] <Glacia> Dr_willis, I am trying to sshd to my android phone... i know it can be done since android is a linus based OS and I have a terminal
[13:53] <toggles> KNUBBIG: Grazie
[13:53] <mikebot> Also, how can I access my windows folders whilst in ubuntu?
[13:53] <coz_> Incarus6,  mm which video card do you have there?
[13:53] <studentz> Help  Ubuntu Natty Nvidia driver activated but no currently in use ??
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  you need a ssh server on the phone.  and theres tools for android to show the phones ip#.
[13:53] <Soothsayer> studentz: ignore that
[13:53] <Incarus6> coz_ I can just see the files on my desktop in Unity, nothing else (no menus, etc, except the right click menü), opening these files is working. Im using Nvidia with the proprietary driver (GT220)
[13:53] <usr13> !sources | zap0
[13:53] <KNUBBIG> mikebot: if you're not on some complicated disk layout, they should be visible in nautilus by default
[13:53] <mikebot> KNUBBIG: Where though?
[13:53] <zap0> usr13, thank you.
[13:53] <studentz> soothsayer I have huge screen resolution I cannot ignore it :(
[13:54] <coz_> Incarus6,  move your curso to the upper left corner of the screen,, see if the launcher pops up for you
[13:54] <Soothsayer> studentz: no, i didn't say that.
[13:54] <Glacia> ummm help my screen is flashing uncontrollably
[13:54] <Soothsayer> studentz: Go to NVIDIA X Server Settings
[13:54] <KNUBBIG> mikebot: for me they're under devices in nautilus
[13:54] <mikebot> KNUBBIG: Wait, and I might be on the same complicated disc--I'm not sure... I installed it on the same partition..
[13:54] <Glacia> what the hey is going on
[13:54] <Soothsayer> studentz: if that dialog opens, means your drivers are installed.
[13:54] <Incarus6> coz_, I did that, nothing appeared (I'm currently in KDE)
[13:54] <KNUBBIG> mikebot: okay, that sound complicated to me. Not even sure how that is possible
[13:54] <KNUBBIG> sounds*
[13:54] <tashkas> MC-Router API already in use; Errno(98): Address already in use  <--- can somebody fix this?
[13:54] <Belinrahs> I posted on forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742650 , I installed 10.10 on my hp g62x, WLAN didn't work, followed a guide online to compile and set up ralink driver. I can see networks, when I try and connect to one the animated WiFi icon on the top bar freezes if I click it
[13:55] <osse> mikebot, what do you mean by "on the same partition"? Did you install it from within Windows?
[13:55] <Belinrahs> btw natty I can't even compile the driver so i reverted to 10.10
[13:55] <mikebot> osse: Yes.
[13:55] <mikebot> Oh and I found them in
[13:55] <mikebot> 'Computer'
[13:55] <coz_> Incarus6,  thats sort of odd but not completely,, i have seen Unity not start up correctly  for me and many others,,  not sure what the issue is but apparenlty you are a kde  lover so I suppose its not too important :)
[13:55] <KNUBBIG> ah ok :D
[13:55] <studentz> Soothsayer it says " you dont appear to be using the Nvidia X driver"
[13:56] <tomasz> a wiecie o tej opcji w nowym chrome ?
[13:56] <Incarus6> coz_, I am open for other desktop too ;) (But I don't like the concept of gnome and it is hard to handle with dualscreen)
[13:56] <Pici> !pl | tomasz
[13:56] <jrib> !pl | tomasz
[13:56] <osse> mikebot, if they are visible from 'Computer' you probably have the side-pane in the File manager turned off :P Try pressing F9
[13:56] <AceKing> Is there anyway to install an indicator to see what programs are open and running?
[13:56] <tomasz> aaa sorry
[13:56] <tashkas> #ubuntu-lt
[13:56] <studentz> Soothsayer "run nvidia-xconfig asd root" I should do that??
[13:56] <Incarus6> coz_, nevermind, just wanted to test unity, but seems to be released to early ;)
[13:56] <raymondjtoth3> hi
[13:56] <rokyronnie> I use ALSA with 5.1 output, and after a song it's done in audacious my subwoofer remain with no sound, I've to select something different and then select again 5.1 output to get sount again
[13:56] <lars_bauer> cant find my camera on asus A3000. its a ali
[13:56] <Soothsayer> studentz: just run it from the GUI
[13:56] <usr13> AceKing: It is already there.  service
[13:56] <knick> AceKing: go to your terminal and type 'top'
[13:57] <raymondjtoth3> in ubuntu 11.04 how i iinstall the intel witeless 3945 abg driver?
[13:57] <mikebot> osse: I do; thank you. Also, is there a way to increase the performance (speed)? Like, can I change effects or anything?
[13:57] <knick> AceKing: or 'man ps'
[13:57] <lars_bauer> /dev/video0 not found
[13:57] <coz_> Incarus6,  this is true , however I have dual monitors here,, a while back  unity was useless on dual monitor set ups,, its still sort of that way but now uses that darn global menu on both monitors
[13:57] <mikebot> Seems to be much slower than 10.10
[13:57] <raymondjtoth3> im in classic mode
[13:57] <AceKing> usr13, knick, thanks
[13:57] <usr13> AceKing: for applications (rather than services) try    ps aux
[13:57] <Welshy-Rob> hi my keyboard and mouse is not responding when i boot up into windows however is perfectly okay in ubuntu, i was thinking this was maybe a registry error?
[13:57]  * Incarus6 is going to remove ubuntu-desktop from his computer
[13:57] <studentz> Soothsayer I used Jockey and It did not work
[13:57] <KNUBBIG> coz_: it runs fine on dual-display for me
[13:57] <raymondjtoth3> how i install the intel wireless driver for 3945 abg?
[13:57] <Soothsayer> studentz: did you try opening the Nvidia X Server settings?
[13:57] <KNUBBIG> is there any way to execute a terminal command from within irssi?
[13:58]  * wli is interested in going through the packaging system to drop a 64-bit kernel package (additionally patched/customized/etc.) on a 32-bit install. This must be an FAQ but google's defeating me.
[13:58] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: It should already be working
[13:58] <studentz> I did and It shows That I should run nvidia-xconfig
[13:58] <raymondjtoth3> uslr3 its not did disro update and didnt come in
[13:58] <osse> mikebot, if you go to System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual effects you can choose 'None'. That should help
[13:58] <sweb> compbiz could not be install inside ubuntu unity  ?
[13:58] <Dr_Willis> KNUBBIG:  /exec  - check the irssi docs for mor einfo  on it.
[13:58] <mikebot> osse: Thank you
[13:58] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: lspci    #And see how it is actually identified
[13:58] <KNUBBIG> Dr_Willis: thank you
[13:58] <zap0> can i get some help upgrading?
[13:58] <Incarus6> coz_, thats what I like at KDE. Both screens got their own task bar and the window list just lists these windows, which are on the same screen
[13:59] <sweb> compbiz*
[13:59] <Incarus6> zap0, yes
[13:59] <yacc> Any idea where to find libsvn-mirror-perl for Lucid?
[13:59] <mikebot> osse: Only see Theme, Background, Fonts
[13:59] <studentz> Soothsayer I did and It shows that I should run "nvidia-xconfig"
[13:59] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: It was working before you upgraded?
[13:59] <raymondjtoth3> Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
[13:59] <raymondjtoth3> usr yes it was
[14:00] <zap0> Incarus6, the local mirror has 4 packages missing (404).  how do i make this upgrade/update manager use a different mirror?
[14:00] <Incarus6> studentz, I had the same problem. Run jockey and enable the driver with that
[14:00] <Soothsayer> osse: how come I don't have that tab?
[14:00] <yacc> svk from universe depends on it, but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libsvn-mirror-perl seems to show only packages up to karmic?
[14:00] <_Platypus_> Does anyone else suffer a Widescreen effect up booting up?
[14:00] <knick> zap0: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:00] <AceKing> usr13, knick, But is there a way to show in the panel which programs are open? I'm really trying to give this a shot before I switch back to Classic Ubuntu
[14:00] <osse> mikebot, then probably you don't have any desktop effects at all, because somehow it's not supported. Do you know what graphics card you have?
[14:00] <raymondjtoth3> usr13,  what i do yes it was
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> !find mirrorselect
[14:00] <Belinrahs> _Platypus_: not quite sure what you mean by a widescreen effect?
[14:00] <KNUBBIG> Is it normal that there's no start splash while booting?
[14:00] <Incarus6> knick, thank you
[14:00] <studentz> Soothsayer I did it twice and no solution
[14:00] <knick> AceKing: I'm not really happy yet with the new interface either... :
[14:00] <raymondjtoth3> usr13,  do i need backports
[14:00] <knick> :-( *
[14:00] <wli> (Essentially to get rid of highmem overhead, maybe tweak some config options, and whatever patches I write on a whim.)
[14:00] <Soothsayer> studentz: hmm..
[14:00] <raymondjtoth3> ?
[14:00] <yacc> http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libsvn-mirror-perl <= does not show even the Karmic package.
[14:00] <Soothsayer> studentz: try the other driver then
[14:01] <AceKing> knick, I'm glad to see I'm not the only one
[14:01] <manu-UB> Does anyone knows how to install a correct driver for ubuntu on a fujitsu siemens laptop ?
[14:01] <Soothsayer> studentz: did you pick the one with (Recommended) while choosing the Additional Drivers?
[14:01] <knick> AceKing: still tryin to find out how to get my buttons and icons back, and how to place new things in that annoying sidebar..
[14:01] <daxroc> Soothsayer: did you get it sorted after ?
[14:01] <studentz> Soothsayer Yep
[14:01] <Glacia> weird i dont know what just happened
[14:01] <raymondjtoth3> usr13, you still here
[14:01] <_Platypus_> Belinrahs: When I load, and hit the login screen, I will have a section of black on both sides of the screen.
[14:01] <zap0> knick, where do i get a list of alternate mirrors?
[14:01] <Soothsayer> daxroc: get what sorted?
[14:01] <mikebot> osse: No, but this is pretty bad... (I've had other versions on this computer). Also, there are some problems with clicking "OK" and "yes" and "No" in diaglog boxes
[14:01] <mikebot> Ughh
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> using the launcher - guide i just saw ---> http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/#launcher
[14:01] <daxroc> Soothsayer: Dual monitors
[14:01] <Glacia> Dr_willis, on my phone I connect to username@ip address right>?
[14:01] <knick> zap0: google "apt sources.list ubuntu <yourversion>"
[14:02] <Incarus6> coz_, http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/incident.png
[14:02] <Soothsayer> daxroc: yes, its working fine now
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  thats the normal ssh way yes.
[14:02] <raymondjtoth3> guess i get no sireless?(
[14:02] <studentz> Soothsayer also I run nvidia-xconfig and I got stock after grub. So I restarted as a single mode
[14:02] <Belinrahs> _Platypus_: you need to set your screen resolution to a widescreen format
[14:02] <raymondjtoth3> any thing i do to fix this
[14:02] <daxroc> Soothsayer: how did you get it working ?
[14:02] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: iwconfig
[14:02] <dmsuperman> What's the easiest way to tell apt to pull a package not from a specific repo?
[14:02] <dmsuperman> ie ignore packge-name in repo-name
[14:02] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: What does that say     iwconfig
[14:02] <Glacia> Dr_willis, do i have to do anything on my computer side first
[14:02] <KNUBBIG> Incarus6: hahaha :D
[14:02] <AceKing> knick, I hope they redesign this. It looks like a lot of people aren't happy with this
[14:02] <gkahn> hi, anyone can tell me how to download lib64qt3 for Ubuntu 10.04?
[14:02] <Soothsayer> daxroc: ok one thing I did was this http://joeslifewithubuntu.blogspot.com/2010/12/update-on-nvidia-96-driver-with-ubuntu.html
[14:02] <sipior> wli: given that you'd need to rebuild the whole of binutils, and likely glibc as well, it would be vastly simpler just to move to a proper 64-bit install.
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  you need ssh client installed  :) but thats a default on ubuntu systems
[14:03] <manu-UB> anyone could help me with my graphic driver problem?
[14:03] <coz_> Incarus6,   cute
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  and the phone needs a ssh server installed.
[14:03] <osse> mikebot, did you find the Visual Effects tab,?
[14:03] <janjiss> Hi! How can i make my server to start up on boot? I have nginx wich is located in /opt/nginx/sbin/nginx
[14:03] <mikebot> osse: No
[14:03] <knick> AceKing: I used to have an all customized menu, with the tools i preferred and all, but that seems to have gone.. Now if I need a program I just have to type it
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> janjiss:  quick and dirty way. run it from /etc/rc.local
[14:03] <Glacia> i am using irssi on my phoe
[14:03] <Soothsayer> daxroc: and I realized that the Nvida X Server settings window has all the other configuratiosn I need to do. Like enabling the second monitor.
[14:03] <Soothsayer> brb, need to logout, login
[14:03] <_Platypus_> Belinrahs: So that should make it where it remains full screen? And how would I do that? Under System Settings?
[14:03] <Glacia> it is a ssh server client
[14:03] <KNUBBIG> ssh server client?
[14:03] <raymondjtoth3> usr13 that it
[14:03] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  i  use some android specific irc clients.
[14:03] <syrinx_> lol
[14:03] <janjiss> Dr_Willis: I need to 'ln' it?
[14:03] <osse> Soothsayer, I don't know why you don't have that tab.
[14:04] <AceKing> knick, I know, it's like they took a step back in a way
[14:04] <Dr_Willis> janjiss:  no.. edit rc.local add it near the end.
[14:04] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: Did it say "No wireless extensions"  on all devices?
[14:04] <Belinrahs> _Platypus_: Just a moment
[14:04] <janjiss> Ok, thanx
[14:04] <wli> sipior: Um, the stock compiler and binutils already build 64-bit kernels.
[14:04] <raymondjtoth3> that everthing
[14:04] <raymondjtoth3> from that comnmand
[14:04] <_Platypus_> Belinrahs: No problem. Thank you for taking the time to help me.
[14:04] <sipior> wli: yes. but how do you plan on loading shared libraries with a broken loader?
[14:04] <raymondjtoth3> usr13,  what i do thanks to get this fixxed
[14:05] <Belinrahs> !resolution | _Platypus_
[14:05] <cousin_mario> Hello.
[14:05] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: So it DID say "no wireless extensions"  on all devices?
[14:05] <jw_> are there a lot of 11.04 upgrade issues today?
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> jw_:  servers are getting a heavy load.
[14:05] <Belinrahs> _Platypus_: That link should help you fix your resolution
[14:05] <KNUBBIG> jw_: I updated two computers and experienced no problems
[14:05]  * cousin_mario upgraded to natty yesterday and screen effects on gnome disappeared: any hints?
[14:05] <Incarus6> jw_, no, everbody is making a fresh Installation
[14:05] <wers> how do I enable the three finger activation of Unity MT grab? I'm on a MacBook Air
[14:05] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1689100
[14:05] <raymondjtoth3> just whats there
[14:05] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, I used a local mirror with full speed
[14:06] <Belinrahs> _Platypus_: if you need more help, mention me again and I'll see it
[14:06] <zap0> is there a UI way to change the data in  /etc/apt/source.list
[14:06] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: In the link I just sent you, we see that someone else had a problem with it and they used commands   sudo rfkill unblock all
[14:06] <Soothsayer> anyone using ubuntu tweak on 11.04 ?
[14:06] <osse> mikebot, then I don't know. Sorry. Maybe it will help if you install Ubuntu not from within Windows, but that can be a bit complicated if you're not experienced with creating partitions and so on
[14:06] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  i was during beta. not tried it this week
[14:06] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: and      rfkill list all
[14:07] <Incarus6> zap0, yes, a graphical editor with su rights
[14:07] <_Platypus_> Belinrahs: Thanks :)
[14:07] <usr13> raymondjtoth3: but I don't know what that was all about.  Maybe something to it.  I don't know.
[14:07] <Soothsayer> why did I read somewhere chrome was a part of this Ubuntu ?
[14:07] <mikebot> osse: It's that lenovo doesn't know how to make computers very well, came shippsed with the maximum number of partitions all already used.
[14:07] <mikebot> osse: OK, thank
[14:07] <mikebot> s
[14:07] <knick> Soothsayer: didn't say it was part of it, but compatible with.
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> mikebot:  ive seen that on Other brand PCs also.
[14:07] <Incarus6> zap0, but try "nano", its an easy command line editor, simpler then vim
[14:07] <Soothsayer> knick: i don't see it in the software centre
[14:07] <shaneo_> can someone give me a hand with gnome3 i hate it and want ubuntu classic back
[14:08] <knick> You might have to manually download it
[14:08] <zap0> Incarus6, i didn't mean a text editor.
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> shaneo_:  use the ppa-purge command to remove it prehaps.. and reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[14:08] <Tetsuo55> having the running apps on the left sure takes getting used too
[14:08] <Psychobudgie> shaneo_, you will have to reinstall
[14:08] <Incarus6> zap0, you can change the sources in the software center too
[14:08] <shaneo_> reinstall ??
[14:08] <shaneo_> as in my while OS
[14:08] <sweb> compiz could not be install inside ubuntu unity  ?
[14:09] <Psychobudgie> shaneo_, you know that whole warning about not being able to roll back changes made when you enable the ppa, they weren't joking
[14:09] <Soothsayer> how do I make Ubuntu (with Unity) as the default option during login?
[14:09] <shaneo_> no didnt see it
[14:09] <Soothsayer> I picked Gnome classic once.. and it is that by default :@
[14:10] <shaneo_> downloaded it through ubuntu tweak
[14:10] <wli> sipior: Eh? 32-bit emulation works fine.
[14:10] <shaneo_> so well it looks like im using gnome3 than
[14:10] <Incarus6> Soothsayer, did you boot unity one time since then?
[14:10] <pfarrell_> hi! I'm trying to upgrade, but when I click upgrade in the update manager, it just goes grey, freezes, and then says "could not download release notes"
[14:10] <shaneo_> cause i am not reinstalling and losing all my data
[14:10] <pfarrell_> is the server down?
[14:10] <DJRoby4> hello
[14:10] <sssstavr> Soothsayer just select it once and it will then stay as default
[14:10] <JohnFlux> pfarrell_: I get that error too, and came to ask the same thing :)
[14:10] <osse> mikebot, if you use a so-called extended partition instead of a primary partion you can have as many partitions as you like. The extended partitions works as a "frame" you but logical partitions. But still it means you have to remove one of the partitions you have now.
[14:10] <sipior> wli: you haven't tried it, have you.
[14:10] <Soothsayer> sssstavr: its not!
[14:10] <Incarus6> shaneo_, whats the exact problem?
[14:11] <pfarrell_> JohnFlux: are you also in GB, by any chance?
[14:11] <Belinrahs> DJRoby4: hello, can we help you?
[14:11] <JohnFlux> pfarrell_: yes
[14:11] <Incarus6> Belinrahs, he left
[14:11] <pfarrell_> I suppose it must be the gb server
[14:11] <pfarrell_> maybe I'll try another one
[14:11] <fubuloubu> hi, I just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04
[14:11] <wolf__> how can i start my webcam on ubuntu ?
[14:11] <Belinrahs> Incarus6: Thanks
[14:11] <wli> sipior: I've done it on Debian before. Not a hitch.
[14:11] <shaneo_> Wolf: use cheese
[14:11] <Dania> Guyt s I had electricity cut during upgrade to 11.04 and now on boot i'm getting Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[14:11] <fubuloubu> having an issue getting unity to start
[14:12] <sipior> wli: then what's stopping you?
[14:12] <trijntje> sweb, unity is a compiz-plugin, but it conflicts with some other plugins if thats what you mean
[14:12] <Incarus6> !cheese | wolf__
[14:12] <wolf__> what
[14:12] <Incarus6> wolf__, try cheese, ubotto doesn't know that
[14:12] <Dania> Guys I had electricity cut during upgrade to 11.04 and now on boot i'm getting Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[14:12] <shaneo_> wolf: sudo apt-get install cheese
[14:12] <wolf__> every time i try it it saysmy screen should me 860*don't know what
[14:12] <Incarus6> wolf__, http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/cheese
[14:12] <sweb>  trijntje, i want to instal simple compiz wizard. ubuntu give me an error
[14:12] <jAguAr`> i need help w/ upgrading ubundu from 10.10 to ll.04
[14:12] <wolf__> how i can use it
[14:12] <wli> sipior: Something about deb/apt kernel packaging has changed in the interim.
[14:13] <shaneo_> just click it wolf duh
[14:13] <Belinrahs> wolf__: open a terminal and type sudo apt-get install cheese
[14:13] <Belinrahs> wolf__: it will install the program in your applications menu
[14:13] <Glacia> Wow i think my graphics card went on the fritz
[14:13] <trijntje> Dania, yeah, I would expect something to get damaged if you cut power during upgrade.
[14:13] <usr13> Glacia: What happened?
[14:13] <trijntje> sweb, what is simple compiz wizard?
[14:13] <Incarus6> shaneo_, do you plan to downgrade to gnome 2.32 from gnome 3 again?
[14:13] <psypher246> hi all, has anyone experienced this issue in natty, I can't hold ctrl down and left click and selectively select files in nautilus, shft works but not ctrl
[14:13] <gshipley> Hey guys - 11.04 in nautilus browsing to windows file share I get speeds of 25 megs a sec.  When I mount that same share with cifs or smbfs I only get 4 megs a sec.  Any ideas why nautilus is much faster (fuse ?) that my mount?
[14:13] <JohnFlux> Riddell: are the GB servers down?
[14:14] <wolf__> i'll try
[14:14] <Glacia> usr13, screen froze and then started to flash .... could see and type but not click on anything
[14:14] <Dania> trijntje,  ya how should i diagnose it?
[14:14] <Glacia> Dr_willis, i tried to connect to my computer in my ssh client on my phone but its not connecting to anything
[14:14] <usr13> Glacia: what video card?
[14:14] <trijntje> Dania, it might be easies to reinstall, do you have a backup of all your data?
[14:14] <Skei> JohnFlux, I failed to get the UK server to do anything. I selected "best server" for an upgrade, and it worked fine when it gave me another one.
[14:14] <osse> I just booted up with a USB stick with the 64-bit Natty images. Have they moved the "try or install directly" choice to the GRUB menu or is there something wrong with my imagethingy??
[14:14] <Janusman> Can I update a WUBI 10.10 into 11.04?
[14:14] <Glacia> usr13, stock on an old xp tablet
[14:14] <JohnFlux> Skei: I'm currently trying just "do-release-upgrade"  and that seems to work
[14:15] <Soothsayer> how do I get the "Places" menubar option?
[14:15] <trijntje> Dania, I dont know how to diagnose it, maybe someone else can help you with that
[14:15] <Dania> trijntje no but can log to hard drive via console
[14:15] <sweb> trijntje, th UI application that you can set the effect of desktop.
[14:15] <JohnFlux> pfarrell_: read Skei's reply?
[14:15] <usr13> Glacia: Can you ping it?
[14:15] <sipior> wli: if you want a 64-bit kernel, just install a 64-bit distro, and save yourself an enormous amount of trouble. or don't, your business, of course.
[14:15] <Belinrahs> Janusman: in ubuntu you should be able to upgrade normally
[14:15] <wli> siopr: The hope was to get the source/patches/etc. for the Ubuntu kernel and drop my own things in the patch queue.
[14:15] <sweb> how can i resize and configure Unity panel in Natty ?
[14:15] <sipior> wli: i see.
[14:15] <trijntje> sweb, compiz config settings manager, I should install fine in natty
[14:15] <Incarus6> shaneo_, pls confirm
[14:16] <Belinrahs> !upgrade | Janusman
[14:16] <sssstavr> Soothsayer: have you tried system -> administration -> login in screen ?
[14:16] <Janusman> Belinrahs, thanks =)
[14:16] <Belinrahs> Janusman: anytime
[14:16] <jAguAr`> i need help w/ upgrading ubundu from 10.10 to ll.04 please
[14:16] <wli> sipior: It's what I did with all the other distro kernels (including Debian several years ago).
[14:16] <Glacia> usr13, no my ssh client on my phone just shows connecting..... and nothing
[14:16] <Janusman> Belinrahs, didn't see anything mentioning WUBI there though.. but I guess it'll work (backing up first) =)
[14:16] <nishanth> i need help in fixing my compiz setting back....i lost my toolbar and the side dock
[14:16] <afeder> having just tried ubuntu for the first time in a year - what a fabulous release. thanks devs.
[14:16] <sipior> wli: then go do that.
[14:17] <Belinrahs> Janusman: Should be a completely normal upgrade, I'm using Wubi and I upgraded normal
[14:17] <RichardJ> If I install a proprietary driver for my graphics card (ATI/AMD FGLRX) and that results in not being able to boot, what could I then do about it?
[14:17] <Soothsayer> I just removed the minimize and maximize button from the titlebar and only kept the close. Double clicking titlebar minimizes the window instead... looks cleaner :)
[14:17] <RichardJ> is there a simple way to remove a restricted driver via the rootsheel?
[14:17] <RichardJ> rootshell*
[14:17] <trijntje> jAguAr`, what kind of help?
[14:17] <olefowdie> Hello all, has anyone got a bootable USB stick working with Macs?
[14:17] <Omega> soreau: did starting gnome-panel manually work?
[14:17] <usr13> Glacia: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[14:18] <Janusman> Belinrahs, awesome. Thanks
[14:18] <lucydarrow> jrib: done with that update, but still doesn't work.
[14:18] <Nunya> Incarus6 I seem to be stuck on this now: http://i51.tinypic.com/rkym9x.png
[14:18] <wrinkliez> i accidentally removed my home folder button from the unity sidebar, how do i put it back? :S
[14:18] <lucydarrow> jrib: I tried sudo apt-get install vlc
[14:18] <JohnFlux> Skei: where is that option to select the fastest server?
[14:18] <jrib> lucydarrow: pastebin output
[14:18] <Incarus6> Nunya, this stupid cups. type "sudo stop cups && sudo start cups"
[14:18] <Nunya> k
[14:18] <wolf__> how i send an invitation to some one to start my cam ?
[14:18] <jAguAr`> trijntje, i just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10, and tried upgrading to 11.04 and it came back with the error 'Marking the upgrade (E:Error, pkgProblemResolver:: Resolve generated breakes, this may be caused by held packages.)'
[14:19] <Belinrahs> Nunya: off topic, but I really like how you have your interface set up :)
[14:19] <Skei> JohnFlux, in Settings, I think it's the Sources tab, perhaps.
[14:19] <jAguAr`> trijntje, i need to know how to fix this issue
[14:19] <Skei> JohnFlux, there's an option to select "Best Server" which tests all of them and returns the best choice.
[14:19] <Soothsayer> What are good add-ons that help with a dual monitor setup?
[14:19] <karlo> how I can fix the problem with fullscreen videos on youtube (I have 2 monitors) ?
[14:19] <Incarus6> jAguAr, you used foreign repos, pls paste /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[14:19] <nishanth> can someone tell me how i can get my dock and toolbar back?
[14:19] <trijntje> jAguAr`, what does it say when you run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in a terminal?
[14:20] <Nunya> Incarus6 I salute you, it worked!!!  \o/ mmmm
[14:20] <usr13> karlo: Upgrade to the latest flashplugn
[14:20] <muneeb> hi, i have installed ati drivers but i'm not getting Unity... even if i select it in Login i'm getting old style
[14:20] <wolf__> how i send an invitation to some one to start my cam ?
[14:20] <heedlu> were is the alt+f2 key binding defined?
[14:20] <Nunya> said force reload failed but kept going
[14:20] <Incarus6> Nunya, reuse that command if it cups stucks the next time ;)
[14:20] <lucydarrow> jrib: here it is: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WYTeHWxP
[14:20] <wli> sipior: You missed the part (perhaps deliberately) where either Ubuntu, newer deb/apt kernel packaging, or something makes apt-get source linux-image have very unintuitive results.
[14:20] <Nunya> ok will do, thanks!
[14:21] <olefowdie> like all of the ways Ubuntu/Canonical says work... do not work, nor do things that I would imagine should work.
[14:21] <GlaciasEvo> usr13, ummm whay did you do to my pc
[14:21] <GlaciasEvo> whay
[14:21] <olefowdie> I can boot from external CDROM, but trying to boot from a USB stick never works, at least not if I want persistence.
[14:21] <cousin_mario> this release is quite buggy
[14:21] <jAguAr`> Incarus6, that is a huge file...
[14:21] <GlaciasEvo> what.....
[14:21] <jrib> lucydarrow: try a different mirror?
[14:21] <Soothsayer> Like I want a taskbar in my second monitor
[14:21] <Soothsayer> its too much to scroll all the way to the left
[14:21] <usr13> karlo: http://trryhend.startlogic.com/
[14:22] <usr13> to manually install ^^^
[14:22] <lars-eirik> I'd like to load the classic  Gnome-menus, bey there is NO options at the login-screen. Is there any other way to to this ?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> olefowdie:  you can do a full normal install to a flash drive - if its big enough
[14:22] <Incarus6> jAguAr`, I know, I don't need the whole file, better paste "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | grep Broken"
[14:22] <lucydarrow> jrib: Okay, changing to US mirror.
[14:22] <karlo> usr13, tnx
[14:22] <Soothsayer> What are good tools to use along with  a dual monitor setup?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> lars-eirik:  when you enter your user name. No menus at the bottom of the gdm screen?
[14:22] <Soothsayer> Like I need a taskbar in the second monitor
[14:22] <GlaciasEvo> usr13, how do I get out of what you put me in
[14:22] <muneeb> HELP!!  i have installed ati drivers but i'm not getting Unity... even if i select it in Login i'm getting old style
[14:22] <Soothsayer> It's too annoying to travel all the way to the left to unity taskbar
[14:22] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: Do you have login option now?
[14:22] <myrkraverk> Hello people.
[14:23] <GlaciasEvo> yes
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  normal classic gnome lets me do that. but ive not tried Unity on my dual monitor setup. You coul dinstall a dock like docky or awn, or others
[14:23] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: login and restart gdm
[14:23] <Soothsayer> Dr_Willis: will that restrict it to that monitor only?
[14:23] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[14:23] <sipior> wli: i ignored it because i assume you're clever enough to figure it out. you haven't really stated what the problem with deb packaging was, so it is difficult to offer useful recommendations.
[14:23] <myrkraverk> I had trouble booting up the amd64 10.10 live CD.  Is there a chance it's been updated since I downloaded it some months ago?
[14:23] <GlaciasEvo> restart gdm?
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  most docks have that setting.
[14:23] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: Yes
[14:23] <lars-eirik> Dr_Willis Only bottom menus, but no choises for loading the classic menu
[14:23] <thelonecabbage> trying to use usb-create-gtk to create a bootable image on an external eSATA drive, and it's not detecting the drive
[14:23] <Soothsayer> Dr_Willis: then im assuming I've to get rid of Unity dock on the left?
[14:23] <thelonecabbage> anyone know how to get it to notice it?
[14:23] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:24] <GlaciasEvo> sorry I'm rusty as heck with ubuntu.... been over a year sorry
[14:24] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  since it auto hidea. i dont see much reason to get rid of it.
[14:24] <antonio_> hello! can anyone help me with my resolution on ubuntu 11.04? :)
[14:24] <Incarus6> myrkaverk, are you using "new" hardware?
[14:24] <Janusman> mirrors?
[14:24] <sipior> wli: in other words: unintuitive in what way?
[14:24] <Soothsayer> Dr_Willis: which dock would you recommend? I need something like the one on Windows 7
[14:24] <jml__> xxx
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  try them all out.
[14:24] <jml__> hello
[14:24] <muneeb> HELP!!  i have installed ati drivers but i'm not getting Unity... even if i select it in Login i'm getting old style
[14:24] <jml__> 我是中国的
[14:24] <Soothsayer> Dr_Willis: name them again please?
[14:25] <Incarus6> !cn | jml__
[14:25] <myrkraverk> Incarus6: It's a 4 or 5 year old laptop.
[14:25] <mongy> !buttons > mongy
[14:25] <wli> sipior: There used to be a debian/ dir in there with a set of patches to apply; now there's no patch set to put my code in.
[14:25] <GlaciasEvo> usr13,  ok now how do I get connected with my ssh
[14:25] <franciel> !buttons > mongy
[14:25] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: What?
[14:26] <Incarus6> myrkraverk, you could try a live cd, but there is no gwarranty that it will work
[14:26] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: Try Ctrl-Alt-F7   and see if it's back to normal.
[14:26] <t-rex> i have ati5650 and after installing the driver i cant run unity
[14:26] <antonio_> help! i have a sis671/771 graphic card and i like to configure it on my ubuntu 11.04
[14:26] <GlaciasEvo> usr13 the whole reason I'm here was to try and connect my phone to my pc via ssh
[14:26] <Nunya> 1 minute left  :O
[14:26] <Nunya> lol
[14:26] <Incarus6> !paste > jAguAr`
[14:26] <fillayu> is unity better than gnome
[14:27] <GlaciasEvo> !quit
[14:27] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: I though you had the flashing screen.  Sorry.  You need to install openssh-server
[14:27] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[14:27] <BlouBlou> fillayu: unity works with gnome
[14:27] <muneeb> how to re-enable  Unity ???
[14:27] <Puchaty> hi
[14:27] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:27] <Puchaty> anyone tried powerXpress with new ati drivers?
[14:27] <fillayu> BlouBlou   how to keep the unity panel always in the front
[14:27] <Glacia> the openssh on my pc or phone because i already have an ssh client on my phone
[14:27] <BlouBlou> fillayu: I don't use it
[14:28] <BlouBlou> muneeb: go to gdm and choose 'ubuntu session'
[14:28] <fillayu> BlouBlou  u use what?
[14:28] <usr13> Glacia: On the pc
[14:28] <Janusman> so if I already have the alternate ISO image, how long should I expect for an upgrade to take?
[14:28] <BlouBlou> I use classic-session, not unity
[14:28] <Puchaty> no ati hybrid gpu users?:)
[14:28] <julian__> hellow
[14:28] <Glacia> usr13, i thought ubuntu came with it already installed
[14:28] <sipior> wli: simply adding the directory doesn't work?
[14:28] <muneeb> BlouBlou,  but how to go to gdm.. i tried from login screen
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> Glacia:  you need a ssh server on whatever you are connecting TO...  ubuntu comes with a ssh CLIENT..
[14:28] <timekiller> hi guys, just dropped in to ask if anyone else has a problem with 11.04 and dual monitors (no wallpaper, white background) - and if there is a known fix ?
[14:28] <julian__> guys i have a little trouble :S
[14:29]  * wli needs to get back on the net to have better methods of investigation than IRC.
[14:29] <Glacia> oh i see
[14:29] <BlouBlou> muneeb: that's exactly GDM
[14:29] <Janusman> julian__, just ask =)
[14:29] <Glacia> Ok so how do i get that on my pc
[14:29] <Puchaty> i have a little trouble too
[14:29] <Puchaty> :>
[14:29] <julian__> how do i activate the windows efects on unity?
[14:29] <usr13> GlaciasEvo: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:29] <sipior> wli: i take it that's a no? :-)
[14:29] <usr13> Glacia: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[14:29] <muneeb> BlouBlou,  but i'm not getting Unity even though i selected i get old style Ubuntu
[14:29] <Janusman> julian__, I think you should get the compiz manager
[14:29] <Nunya> Incarus6 I have to close to finish up now, hopefully I wont need to come back... thank you again!!
[14:30] <usr13> Glacia: Or go to synaptic and install it.
[14:30] <lars-eirik> Dr_Willis: Never mind. I got it working by changing the default login theme in the control panel.
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> !ssh | Glacia
[14:30] <julian__> how get it?
[14:30] <BlouBlou> muneeb: change classic-session and select Ubuntu-session
[14:30] <Incarus6> Nunya, you are welcome
[14:30] <julian__> how can i get it*?
[14:30] <inflex> just upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10 - keyboard doesn't come up anymore, if you remove the keyboard and plug it back in, it works again (USB).
[14:30] <myrkraverk> Incarus6: Is there a chance an installation will work better than a live cd somehow?
[14:30] <spicy> Hello I have a question. I have an Intel machine and I wish to download the new 64bit version of Ubuntu, but when I try to download the 64bit it downloads the AMD version (I have an intel processor not an AMD processor). Where is the Intel 64bit version of Ubuntu?
[14:30] <Belinrahs> anyone with wifi experience could you look at my post, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742650 -- I would be very grateful - thanks!
[14:30] <Dr_Willis> inflex:  i just had that happen to my usb mouse on the live cd.
[14:30] <myrkraverk> spicy: It's the same thing.
[14:30] <Incarus6> myrkraverk, you could try a live cd, but there is no warranty that it will work
[14:30] <Al-Bawi> hi there , i have a problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 , it says The upgrade has aborted. Please check your Internet connection or installation media and try again. All files downloaded so far are kept.
[14:30] <myrkraverk> spicy: I'm using amd64 solaris on an intel machine.
[14:30] <inflex> Dr_Willis: yes, the mouse did stop once, but it's come back reliably since the last 3 boots
[14:31] <myrkraverk> Incarus6: ok.
[14:31] <julian__> berinrahs AMD its called 64 bits procesors
[14:31] <Dr_Willis> Al-Bawi:  servers are hitting heavy load. and are not stable.
[14:31] <wli> sipior: Typically there was a script in there that applied the patches starting from virgin kernel source (or some approximation there of).
[14:31] <muneeb> BlouBlou, after upgradation it gave error  like it doesnt support 3d... but after then installed drivers but still  no luck
[14:31] <myrkraverk> spicy: plus, it's politically correct to call the platform amd64 since they invented the platform.
[14:31] <Incarus6> myrkraverk, I allways prefer new software over old, otherwise I would use Debian
[14:31] <Janusman> julian__, look at "Install Compiz Config Settings Manager" under http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/04/12-things-i-did-after-installing-new.html
[14:31] <inflex> Dr_Willis: haven't found any google hits on 11.04 usb keyboard failure yet :(
[14:31] <muneeb> BlouBlou, i did that alrady but nothing happened
[14:31] <myrkraverk> Incarus6: Haha, ok.
[14:31] <Al-Bawi> Dr_Willis , you mean that i should try any time later?
[14:32] <BlouBlou> muneeb: You need to have 3D rendering
[14:32] <Glacia> usr13, ok i need the sudo apt-get now what
[14:32] <spicy> So it doesn't matter if I run an AMD 64bit on an Intel machine? Okay then, I'll download AMD 64 bit
[14:32] <Glacia> ok i did*
[14:32] <cfc_{Pawpad}> hi every one
[14:32]  * izinucs is thinking there's something going on with the ubuntu one servers..tomboy isn't syncing
[14:32] <cfc_{Pawpad}> what is the package called for quicktime ?
[14:32] <Glacia> nvm i got to go
[14:32] <roeland> hey fellas, i got an ubuntu box (through Linode) and it keeps randomly getting stuck at 100% cpu usage (400% actually?). i am unable to pull up the site , or access the console (via putty) the only way to fix it is to log into the linode web manager and reboot it.
[14:32] <izinucs> cfc_{Pawpad}: to play it in a browser?
[14:33] <roeland> what are some things i could do to diagnose this
[14:33] <cfc_{Pawpad}> actully i use SL
[14:33] <spicy> myrkraverk thanks for clearing things up
[14:33] <Incarus6> roeland, 400%? Do you use a quad core computer?
[14:33] <usr13> Belial`: What freezes?  Network Manager?
[14:34] <sinistrad> roeland you can try the 'top' command to see which process is consuming your resources
[14:34] <roeland> i believe so yes incarus6
[14:34] <Guest73628> does anyone no how to turn laptop keyboard backlight of?
[14:34] <Janusman> anyone using dual monitors have any issues with 11.04? asking before I upgrade.
[14:34] <roeland> problem is.. i cant get in via console
[14:34] <roeland> so i cannot run top
[14:34] <muneeb> BlouBlou, how do i get Unity 2D? i installed it but i dont see it in GDM
[14:34] <usr13> Belinrahs:   What freezes?  Network Manager?
[14:34] <usr13> Glacia: It should work now if you installed it.
[14:34] <[snake]> How can I get my keyboard to type ina different language in libre office?
[14:34] <mtlife> hey i used openbox for lxde for a while, now when i log in to gnome (11.04) there are no window borders! How can I fix this?
[14:34] <Soothsayer> why can't I execute a file? ./crclient -u gives --> bash: ./crclient: No such file or directory
[14:35] <sinistrad> roeland, I see your dilemma
[14:35] <BlouBlou> muneeb: I don't know
[14:35] <roeland> so. the problem occurs.. i get notification from linode
[14:35] <roeland> website is down. console is down
[14:35] <roeland> i reboot from web ui
[14:35] <m|kael> i have some problems making chromium my default browser in 11.04 can anyone help?
[14:35] <lgp171188> Hi all, I am using Ubuntu Natty with Nvidia proprietary drivers. I had an issue with the plymouth splash screen getting displayed in low resolution which I fixed by setting the correct resolution through GRUB_GFXMODE parameter. But I am getting a purple screen instead of a splash screen for a long time and the ubuntu splash comes up for a second before GDM starts. How to make the splash display instead of the plain purple screen?
[14:35] <Incarus6> roeland, sure all 4 kernels are at 100%? Usually when a process hangs my computer just one core is affected (100%) -> 25% of all cores and the system is still usable. Do you use the 64bit version?
[14:35] <roeland> but i cant troubleshoot the cause
[14:35] <usr13> Soothsayer: See that the executable bit is set for it.
[14:35] <t-rex> [snake] u should change it from the keybord settings from prefrences
[14:35] <roeland> its on a vps at linode , i dont know the specs
[14:36] <Soothsayer> usr13: -rwxr-xr-x 1 dayson dayson 29580 2003-05-01 21:38 crclient
[14:36] <Soothsayer> usr13: isn't it?
[14:36] <sipior> wli: hmm, i see the problem. i don't suppose pulling the kernel source via git is an option? has to be a package?
[14:36] <usr13> Soothsayer:  try sh        sh crclient
[14:36] <Pici> roeland: You may want to ask at #linode at oftc as well, they might have a more linode specific solution to getting to a console.
[14:36] <wrinkliez> does chrome / chromium have support for overlay scrollbars?
[14:36] <roeland> yah i am askign there. doesnt look like anyone knows how to go back and diagnose it
[14:37] <Soothsayer> usr13: crclient: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[14:37] <Leapo> Am I going nuts, or did Ubuntu 11.04 seriously zap my laptop's battery?
[14:37] <izinucs> cfc_{Pawpad}: not sure what SL is.. quicktime is part of the restricted package (ubuntu-restricted-extras) .. there's also http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/utils/quicktime-x11utils
[14:37] <usr13> Soothsayer: file crclient      #See what it really is.
[14:37] <cousin_mario> hi, again
[14:37] <roeland> is there any way to log cpu usages and memory usage?
[14:37] <roeland> at least temporarily?
[14:37] <yellabs-r2> lgp171188 , i cant give an solution, but i had the same kind of issue, i just turned of the splash so that the cool text shows and nothing more.. untill it boots into the desktop.. :)
[14:37] <Pici> roeland: Oh, I see you're there already, nevermind.
[14:37] <Soothsayer> usr13: crclient: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.5, stripped
[14:37] <jw_> I upgraded, after the reboot it says the disk drive for /home is not ready yet... has someone seen this yet? Quick fix?
[14:37] <cousin_mario> I'm having problem with the nvidia binary drivers: http://pastebin.com/6204GA6J
[14:37] <sipior> wli: actually, looking at the docs, it seems to be possible to simply add a debian/patches directory to the ubuntu kernel source packages (which already have the ubuntu-patched source). might be worth a try.
[14:37] <jhw> roeland: syssat
[14:37] <matt[vic[> Hello, after installing 11.04, my broadcom wireless stopped working. lspci -> broadcom BCM43225, STA drivers installed, in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf if I add "blacklist acer-wmi", I can see the wireless services around me, but I cannot connect to them.  Please help!
[14:37] <jhw> roeland: sysstat
[14:38] <mtlife> hey i used openbox for lxde for a while, now when i log in to gnome (11.04) there are no window borders! How can I fix this?
[14:38] <Leapo> I can't get more than 45 minutes out of 11.04 no matter what I try. 10.x had no trouble getting over 2 hours out of the same battery, and Windows easily goes over 3 hours :-/
[14:38] <[TK]D-Fender> Hi, I installed 11.04 on an XP2500+ with a crappier video card.  When I did it firs ttold me I was too low end for Unity and got kicked back to Gnome 2.32 classic.  I have jsut replaced the video card with an ATI Radeon 9200 SE which I'd like to think would ahve been enough for the basics... but when restarting I don't seem to be getting the new interface.  Any tips?
[14:38] <roeland> ok jhw, i will look at that
[14:38] <usr13> Soothsayer: where did you get it?   (It appears to have an error.)
[14:39] <[snake]> םל ןא 'םרלד
[14:39] <cousin_mario> [TK]D-Fender: did you select ubuntu instead of ubuntu-classic at the login?
[14:39] <rczx> :)
[14:39] <jw_> I upgraded, after the reboot it says the disk drive for /home is not ready yet... has someone seen this yet? Quick fix?
[14:39] <saimanoj> any good browser for ubuntu otherthan firefox and chrome?
[14:39] <Soothsayer> usr13: let me download and try again
[14:39] <lucydarrow> jrib: Thanks, US repo worked, still wondering why main sever caused me a problem. :)
[14:39] <cousin_mario> saimanoj: opera?
[14:39] <matt[vic[> opera is not bad
[14:39] <matt[vic[> Hello, after installing 11.04, my broadcom wireless stopped working. lspci -> broadcom BCM43225, STA drivers installed, in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf if I add "blacklist acer-wmi", I can see the wireless services around me, but I cannot connect to them.  Please help!
[14:39] <sipior> wli: in other words, they took out the patch script because the source is already patched.
[14:39] <ortsvorsteher> seamonkay is also okay saimanoj
[14:39] <wli> sipior: I'm off the net right now and will be for a while, otherwise no. I probably need to get off my phone to do some things, too.
[14:39] <saimanoj> opera is there for ubuntu
[14:39] <izinucs> [TK]D-Fender: on the login screen click your user name and then look at the bar at the bottom of the screen that appears.. you can switch to the unity interface there.. if that doesn't work you might have to reconfigure your video by using the menu on the rescue kernel on boot.
[14:39] <[TK]D-Fender> cousin_mario: Yup... no proprietary drivers offered in that box either BTW
[14:39] <saimanoj> i dont know yet
[14:39] <sipior> wli: best of luck with it.
[14:39] <[TK]D-Fender> (the admin box that is)
[14:39] <Kartagis> when I edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config to read ChrootDirectory %h and restart ssh, users can't log in. why?
[14:40] <studentz> I upgrade from Maverick to natty But the windows manager is not metacity :(  How I can change the windows decorator??
[14:40] <mtlife> hey i used openbox for lxde for a while, now when i log in to gnome (11.04) there are no window borders! How can I fix this?
[14:40] <Incarus6> Leapo, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_kernel_regress2&num=4
[14:40] <spyzer> hey all i just installed ubuntu 11.04. In my xorg.conf I do not see any section for open source radeon driver. The only thing i see is glx. Please gimme a hand
[14:40] <matt[vic[> mtlife, try "metacity --replace" in a terminal
[14:40] <dennda> Did anybody manage to get natty installed on a macbook pro 13"? When upgrading it left me with a kernel panic. Would like to know if clean reinstallation would work
[14:40] <roeland> will sysstat use up alot of resources
[14:40] <Guest34634> i'd like to know if anybody out there is having issues with their system after upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04?
[14:40] <Leapo> Incarus6: Ah...so it's time to format.
[14:41] <m|kael> how do i change the background to the login in natty?
[14:41] <jw_> Guest, Yes!
[14:41] <jw_> I upgraded, after the reboot it says the disk drive for /home is not ready yet... has someone seen this yet? Quick fix?
[14:41] <nmvictor> wow, seems like Natty is loaded with enough bugs, from no working wireless drives to windows with no borders, God knows if a broadband modem will work. Sorry guys, hope someone helps with your probs, sometimes its safe to hold that breadth for a while and give the new distro a try after two weeks or so
[14:41] <spyzer> hey all i just installed ubuntu 11.04. In my xorg.conf I do not see any section for open source radeon driver. The only thing i see is glx. Please gimme a hand
[14:41] <mtlife> matt[vic[: well that worked, but when i quit metacity (keeps running in terminal doesnt close) the borders are gone again?
[14:41] <Leapo> No sense using the new version if it's going to drain my battery that fast
[14:41] <AceKing> Can someone tell me how to install the Kubuntu desktop on Ubuntu without having to do a reinstall? I know it can be done, I just don't know how
[14:41] <dennda> jw_: i have seen this and am not aware of a fix (havn't looked either tho)
[14:41] <wli> sipior: That'll make it a headache to do certain things vs. the old list of patches. More detail will have to wait for net access, I guess.
[14:41] <cousin_mario> nvidia-current has a broken dependency I don't know where to find: any hints?
[14:41] <matt[vic[> mtlife, do you use compiz?
[14:41] <izinucs> AceKing: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[14:42] <nerdy_kid> Guest34634: I used the CD to upgrade, and it wiped my server and all my apps.  Booting the CD and selecting upgrade is NOT equivalent to distupgrade apparently...
[14:42] <mtlife> matt[vic[: i think yes, because i upgraded to 11.04 and installed the nvidia drivers
[14:42] <AceKing> izinucs, thank you!
[14:42] <jw_> thank you Dennda!
[14:42] <lgp171188> yellabs-r2: I was doing the same till the previous release. Now that I realized I could have a proper high resolution splash screen I want to get it working, but I get to see it only for a brief second after seeing the empty purple screen for a boringly long time :)
[14:42] <matt[vic[> try typing ccsm in a terminal
[14:42] <Incarus6> Leopo, it could be also Unity, did you try gnome instead? Im not sure if unity consumpts more power, because of the effects
[14:42] <dennda> jw_: if you do find a fix, let me know ;)
[14:42] <saimanoj> opera is not in ubuntu repository.
[14:42] <izinucs> AceKing: remember you'll be able to switch interfaces on the login screen
[14:42] <spyzer> please anybody
[14:42] <Leapo> Inarus6: Yes, first thing I did was ditch Unity, it's terrible
[14:42] <nmvictor> I want to dist upgrade from the command line, any I dea what I can do?
[14:43] <cfc_{Pawpad}> sl is known as second life
[14:43] <matt[vic[> mtlife, any luck with "ccsm" in a terminal?
[14:43] <t-rex> ATI 5650 card , after installation if the driver still cant function the catalyst utility
[14:43] <AceKing> izinucs, Great, I appreciate it. I was trying to get used to this new desktop, but it is terrible
[14:43] <coz_> nmvictor,   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:43] <jw_> I did see something about editing fstab but can't tell if that's the be all end all fix for this issue
[14:43] <coz_> nmvictor,  rather  do you want to change ubuntu versions ?
[14:43] <coz_> nmvictor,   then that command is not it,, I forget the proper command for and actual version upgrade
[14:44] <izinucs> AceKing: yes.. and no.. depends on your work style.. I'm gonna miss the configurable bars
[14:44] <Leapo> Only other time I've seen the battery drain this quickly was when Fedora had some horrible glitch that loaded the video card fully non-stop
[14:44] <Leapo> lol
[14:44] <matt[vic[> Hello, after installing 11.04, my broadcom wireless stopped working. lspci -> broadcom BCM43225, STA drivers installed, in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf if I add "blacklist acer-wmi", I can see the wireless services around me, but I cannot connect to them.  Please help!
[14:44] <crcid> Hola
[14:44] <nmvictor> coz_, yea, apt-get dist-upgrade doesn't work.
[14:44] <spyzer> may anybody please help me out
[14:44] <Soothsayer> usr13: hmm.. same thing again
[14:45] <coz_> nmvictor,  not for version upgrade
[14:45] <feisar> pants... updating from 10.10 to 11.04 using the alternate cd has broken my system
[14:45] <coz_> !upgrade
[14:45] <spyzer> i need help with xorg
[14:45] <mtlife> matt[vic[: cssm command not found, install it?
[14:45] <Soothsayer> usr13: downloaded from a different source too
[14:45] <Soothsayer> do you think it has something to do with me being on 64-bit ?
[14:45] <mtlife> matt[vic[: i meant ccsm
[14:45] <crcid> si actualizo a la nueva version , se pierden los datos de 10.10
[14:45] <coz_> !upgrade | nmvictor
[14:45] <AceKing> izinucs, I hate the fact that you don't have an indicator to which programs are running. You have to search on the sidebar which is temperamental
[14:45] <usr13> Soothsayer: May be useful info here:   http://kb.cyberoam.com/default.asp?id=372&Lang=1&SID
[14:45] <spyzer> it doesn;t have a device section with radeon mentioend in it
[14:45] <spyzer> ???
[14:45] <leagris> hello, I get wrong keyboard layout for French azerty <alt> characters. Can you help fix this?
[14:45] <matt[vic[> mtlife, yes, the command is "sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager"
[14:45] <coz_> !upgrde | nmvictor
[14:45] <coz_> mmm
[14:45] <leagris> !fr
[14:45] <coz_> nmvictor,    For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[14:46] <captaindav_> I did tasksel install lamp-server on fresh install of Ubuntu 10.10 but I can't find php.ini, its not in  /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini where my 10.04 php.ini was located.
[14:46] <MrCraig> hello #ubuntu
[14:46] <matt[vic[> mtlife, I just did something weird, did you say something recently?
[14:46] <serene> hello #ubuntu
[14:47] <matt[vic[> hello, serene
[14:47] <rafael> helo serene
[14:47] <muneeb> dpkg: error processing nspluginwrapper (--configure):
[14:47] <muneeb>  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 139
[14:47] <mtlife> matt[vic[: haha no, installed compiz config... now running it, what do i need to look for?
[14:47] <matt[vic[> anyone know a good irc client?  I'm using ircii and it's pretty fail
[14:47] <izinucs> AceKing: how have you found the sidebar tempormental?
[14:47] <mich2000_> will upgrading to ubuntu 11.04 using the update manager delete all my data??
[14:47] <jw_> gah.. 4 hours to download 700mb :(
[14:47] <serene> rafael,  hi~
[14:47] <muneeb> can anyone help with nspluginwrapper error?
[14:48] <matt[vic[> mylife. go to "Window Decorator".  Are you using 11.04. or 10.10?
[14:48] <matt[vic[> mtlife*
[14:48] <serene> matt[vic[,  I am using xchat  ,but i am new here
[14:48] <matt[vic[> xchat!  that's the one mint have.  I like that one
[14:48] <ScottR3> how do i disable this auto-snap-maximize feature in 11.04?
[14:48] <rafael> hi every body
[14:48] <AceKing> izinucs, When I run the mouse over it, it appears and disappears before I can click on an item
[14:48] <jw_> xchat seems cool!
[14:48] <serene> matt[vic[, I am using ubuntu~
[14:48] <leagris> wrong keyboard layout in french, can you help?
[14:48] <rcconf> how can I record a streaming video that is not saved in Firefox cache?
[14:48] <mtlife> matt[vic[: 11.04 upgraded today
[14:49] <matt[vic[> mtlife, one moment please, I need to check something
[14:49] <Soothsayer> how do I access the /root directory through Nautilus ?
[14:49] <usr13> serene: Ok, well the way it works is, you ask questions, and someone elese trys to answer / help
[14:49] <UserX> using 11.04. How do i connect to another ubuntu share on my network?
[14:49] <rcconf> Soothsayer: gksudo nautilus
[14:49] <gtklocker> I wrote an article about custom kernel compilation in Ubuntu if someone wants to have a look https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672
[14:49] <izinucs> AceKing: install compiz config settings manager and change the settings so it never disappears.. the only time mine "goes away" is when I have a program full screen
[14:49] <UserX> Soothsayer: click 'File System'
[14:50] <matt[vic[> mtlife: under the "Window Decorator" plugin, what does the line "Command:" say?
[14:50] <AceKing> izinucs, I will try that. Thanks
[14:50] <Soothsayer> UserX: where is that?
[14:50] <sssstavr> matt[vic[: i use xchat too..it's pretty good and lightweight
[14:50] <serene> user13, ok
[14:50] <UserX> Soothsayer: on the left panel (if you have it)
[14:50] <jrib> lucydarrow: it's a pool of servers not just one server I believe
[14:50] <Soothsayer> by the way, the super user in Ubuntu is the same as the username created while installing right?
[14:50] <mongy> ScottR3, use ccsm and edit the 'grid' options
[14:50] <LjL> Soothsayer: sort of. the first user created gets put in the "admin" group, which means it can use "sudo"
[14:50] <UserX> Soothsayer: no the 'super user' is 'root'
[14:50] <usr13> Soothsayer: Yes
[14:50] <jrib> Soothsayer: the user you created during install is in the admin group which can sudo by default
[14:50] <matt[vic[> soothsayer:  sper user is known as "root"
[14:51] <cousin_mario> LjL: hi there
[14:51] <mtlife> matt[vic[: /usr/bin/compiz-decorator
[14:51] <ScottR3> mongy: great, thanks. just didn't know where to look!
[14:51] <LjL> cousin_mario: hi
[14:51] <Soothsayer> ok
[14:51] <serene> leagris,  system->preferences->keybord
[14:51] <cousin_mario> LjL: do you happen to be a happy nvidia user?
[14:51] <usr13> jrib: Good explaination
[14:51] <ScottR3> mongy: ahh.. ubuntu is once again not irritating! thanks!
[14:51] <mtlife> matt[vic[: window decorator doesnt show up in the default view btw, had to do advanced search
[14:51] <LjL> cousin_mario: i have an old Nvidia card, FX5200... it's done its work, but saying i'm "happy" might be excessive, i guess i'll be happy when we have free drivers that work fine
[14:51] <serene> ,
[14:51] <matt[vic[> mylife:  hmmm... okay.  We can brute force it by adding a new startup application.  Hold on.
[14:51] <Soothsayer> so if i need a terminal as root
[14:52] <Soothsayer> i do a
[14:52] <Soothsayer> su root?
[14:52] <jrib> !root | Soothsayer
[14:52] <tjader> can I add more than one user using preseeding?
[14:52] <MrCraig> what is meant by "There is no application installed for executable files"?
[14:52] <LjL> Soothsayer: no, "sudo -i"
[14:52] <usr13> Soothsayer: sudo su -
[14:52] <LjL> Soothsayer: but most of the time just use "sudo command", it's better
[14:52] <Harkins_> I was installing Natty last night with update-manager, it crashed 90% of the way through the 'install' step. Machine unbootable. I'm creating a Live CD now, could anyone suggest recovery steps to inspect and reinstall packages? I don't know how to do that, don't want to wipe and start over.
[14:52] <cousin_mario> LjL: I meant "happy" as in "working with the binary driver after the upgrade to natty".
[14:52] <AceKing> izinucs, I'm curious, can you update a computer running Ubuntu 10.10 to KUbuntu 11.04? The reason I ask is that I have Ubuntu 10.10 on my parents computer, and they will be totally lost with this.
[14:52] <usr13> sudo -i works too
[14:52] <muneeb> are you able to run flash site in Natty 64bit?
[14:52] <LjL> cousin_mario: ah, i'm afraid i haven't used natty :) i'm still on Hardy :P
[14:52] <Soothsayer> ye, just experimenting
[14:52] <leagris> serene, yes so?
[14:52] <Soothsayer> sudo su is nice
[14:53] <ScottR3> AceKing: you don't have to use Unity. I turned it off because I didn't like it
[14:53] <jrib> eol > LjL
[14:53] <matt[vic[> mtlife: go to system -> preferences -> startup applications.  Once there, click add, name it "Start my Window Decorator" and put as the command "/usr/bin/compiz-decorator --replace"
[14:53] <cousin_mario> AceKing: I don't recommend that. 11.04 has more bugs than a pack of stray St. Bernard.
[14:53] <matt[vic[> Unity is crap.  Dunno what they are thinking
[14:53] <nmvictor> MrCraig, just that, simple english. Right click the file in question, select "Open with other application" and select an application you believe can handle that file type.
[14:53] <mtlife> matt[vic[: mm while im sure that will make it work, why isnt it there in the first place?
[14:53] <serene> leagris, there is a layouts,   and use add
[14:53] <ScottR3> matt[vic[ makes me happy to see someone in the know hates it too
[14:54] <tomasz> hi
[14:54] <AceKing> ScottR3, I thought I read that people were having some problems using the Classic Ubuntu desktop.
[14:54] <tomasz> i have some idea
[14:54] <matt[vic[> mtlife, I'm not sure - it must be something when you messed around with the other window manager
[14:54] <MrCraig> nmvictor, it's an exe, one I've just compiled and linked - it should run stand-alone.
[14:54] <ScottR3> AceKing: can't speak for them, personal experience only... dropped back down, no issues so far
[14:54] <_trine> I have just tried the new ubuntu, the new layout is terrible
[14:54] <tomasz> can developes add opera mini 4.2 to ubuntu default ?
[14:54] <leagris> serene, yes, the french layouts are there, the problem is the disposition is wrong confirmed by preview
[14:54] <AceKing> ScottR3, Ok, thanks!
[14:55] <jon_athon> for anyone using XChat, how do I make "Hide Join/Part Messages" the default?
[14:55] <matt[vic[> trine:  indeed, it's terrible
[14:55] <tomasz> its the best browser for user with 3g
[14:55] <MrCraig> I'll ask the compiler guys, maybe it's doing something odd :)
[14:55] <nmvictor> Wow! Distribution upgrade, Calculating changes, really taking years ... Will I ever finish this upgrade process?
[14:55] <ScottR3> AceKing: to drop back down, just select "Ubuntu Classic" at the login screen
[14:55] <AceKing> cousin_mario, Are you talking about 11.04 in general having problems?
[14:55] <izinucs> AceKing: yes but it's a multi step process.. first install kubuntu-desktop on 10.10.. then go through the upgrade process.  if you have them setup with a separate /home directory (hopefully), you can simply reinstall 11.04 overtop which is infinetely faster and more insured of a positive outcome. Keep in mind kde is similar to older gnome but you'll still be giving instructions
[14:55] <mtlife> matt[vic[: could it also have to do with something that i had 10.10 lubuntu installed instead of the regular ubuntu?
[14:55] <serene> leagris, you mean when you press a key, it turns out to be another?
[14:55] <_trine> matt[vic[, I have scrapped it and am now install 10.10 again
[14:55] <izinucs> AceKing: also if you havent used it yet.. you might set them up on teamviewer so you can remote in easily and "show" them how to do things.
[14:56] <nmvictor> 11.04 is full of crap, reminds me of Karmic, the most bugged ubuntu release ever
[14:56] <matt[vic[> mtlife, possibly, I'm not sure.  I have never used lubuntu.  I would have assumed switching sessions would keep your window decorators though
[14:56] <matt[vic[> mrlife, oh!  it might be that you are still on the lubuntu theme.  try going to system -> preferences -> appearance and selecting a theme there
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> nmvictor:  demand a refund.
[14:56] <ScottR3> nmvictor - i'm starting to get that feeling too...
[14:56] <jatt>  11.04 is beta
[14:57] <rigved> nmvictor: sts versions generally are...consider sticking to LTS versions only
[14:57] <ScottR3> 11.04 was released yesterday jatt
[14:57] <sect114> can anyone help? trying to update 10.10 to 11.04 on a powerpc mac, keeps failing withing this message '   Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/natty/Release  Unable to find expected entry  partner/binary-powerpc/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)'
[14:57] <jrib> jatt: 11.04 is no longer beta
[14:57] <matt[vic[> mtlife, the lubuntu window decorator might have been uninstalled when you dist-upgraded
[14:57] <jatt> they just don't label it as such
[14:57] <matt[vic[> 11.04 is alpha
[14:57] <vishesh> I earlier had integrated graphics card on my computer. I  installed a new external graphics card today. The problem is X server not loading. Its just command line. I tried to do  Xorg --configure, but nothing happened. How do I fix this?
[14:57] <gtklocker> I wrote an article about custom kernel compilation in Ubuntu if someone wants to have a look https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672
[14:57] <jatt> hehe
[14:57] <Incarus6> jatt?
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> Lubuntu uses openbox - a window manager. Not a window decorator.
[14:57] <leagris> serene, no. The layout is wrong for all the <altgr> characters
[14:57] <AceKing> izinucs, Thank you! I never heard of teamviewer, is that a remote desktop program? I do have a logmein account, but unfortunately it doesn't work with Linux
[14:57] <Incarus6> !Natty | matt[vic[
[14:57] <cousin_mario> AceKing: indeed I am
[14:57] <jatt> it's a release to test experimental features, shuttleworth himself said so
[14:58] <cousin_mario> AceKing: I'd wait a couple of months if I were you.
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> jatt:  every non LTS basically fits that.
[14:58] <ScottR3> jatt: -_-
[14:58] <LjL> jrib: send me the !eol again when i'm actually asking for some support :P
[14:58] <matt[vic[> ubuottu: I'm aware what the official release is.  It just runs like an alpha.
[14:58] <bazhang> jatt, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic NOT here
[14:58] <leagris> serene, <altgr>3 on main should give a sharp symbol but instead it gives ² (upscript 2)
[14:58] <gtklocker> I wrote an article about custom kernel compilation in Ubuntu if someone wants to have a look https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672 *ON NATTY*
[14:58] <mtlife> matt[vic[: already tried applying theme before i got here... :)
[14:58] <izinucs> AceKing: yea.. logmein uses .net for some stuff.. yick!  teamviewer is like logmein.. great for getting through firewalls etc. it's also free..
[14:58]  * jrib makes note
[14:58] <matt[vic[> mtlife alrighty.  well after adding that startup application, try logging out and in again
[14:58] <TER0RR> um hi guys a have a qustion. It still recommended to use 32bit version or should i use 64 ?
[14:59] <leagris> serene, preview of the keyboard map confirm the alternate characters are all wrong
[14:59] <jatt> 32bit
[14:59] <[snake]> how do I switch back to gnome on 11.04
[14:59] <izinucs> AceKing: and has a great following..
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> TER0RR:  i use 64bit on 64bit systems.
[14:59] <jatt> [snake]: in the login window you can choose classical
[14:59] <AceKing> izinucs, I appreciate all your help today! I learned a lot
[14:59] <soyo> IN 11.04 YOU CAN SEE YOUR BACKROUND PICTURE JUST BARELY IN THE TERMINAL!! Sorry for yelling but that is the hotness. Those little penguins are genius.
[14:59] <mtlife> matt[vic[: ok ubuntu classic seems to be working fine now... mayb you can help me with my unity issue too
[15:00] <[snake]> jatt, yeah that's where I looked at first but I didn't find it... let me double check >.>
[15:00] <Dr_Willis> soyo:  that feature has been  there for ages..  just not  the default settings.
[15:00] <izinucs> AceKing: np :)
[15:00] <mtlife> matt[vic[: when i login with unity (ubuntu default) the launcher as well as the panel are not displaying
[15:00] <serene> leagris, Ah..   sorry, I got no idea about that,  wish someone will help you~
[15:00] <lucydarrow> jrib: Thats explains it. Thanks. See you later I hope.
[15:00] <Incarus6> mtlife, same for me, Unity isn't working for you
[15:00] <leagris> thanks serene
[15:00] <soyo> Dr_Willis: lol well it is now and I <3 it
[15:00] <matt[vic[> mtlife: have you installed all the drivers?  Unity is bad, and your graphics card needs to have OpenGL support
[15:00] <serene> leagris, you are welcome
[15:01] <mtlife> matt[vic[: yes i have installed the drivers, gallium 0.4 ones.
[15:01] <jatt> opengl for icons and windows lol
[15:01] <ikonia>  /last jatt
[15:01] <bazhang> jatt, thats enough
[15:01] <mtlife> matt[vic[: why is it bad? seems like a config issue to me
[15:01] <Harkins__> update-manager crashed 90% of the way through installing and now my system doesn't boot - how do I begin to fix this?
[15:02] <jrib> Harkins__: chroot, investigate, possibly dpkg --configure -a, sudo apt-get install -f, may be helpful
[15:02] <mtlife> Incarus6: why wouldnt it work for me?
[15:02] <matt[vic[> mtlife: Unity made some poor design choices in my opinion, but I don't really know how to get it working if it isn't already
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> soyo:  i hate it and always disable it.
[15:03] <Incarus6> mtlife, because it doesn't support your graphic card?
[15:03] <mtlife> matt[vic[: any idea how to completely reinstall unity without reinstalling the whole system?
[15:03] <sect114> have a 'failed to fetch' message when updating to 11.4 - what do i do now?
[15:03] <vibhav> I love Unity...
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> Unity2d seems to work decent for my low end cards
[15:03] <Dr_Willis> sect114:  could be servers are overloaded.
[15:03] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[15:03] <mtlife> Incarus6: what does it need except opengl?
[15:03] <matt[vic[> mtlife, I'm switching to xchat.  My name is FizzixNerd now
[15:03] <soyo> Dr_Willis: But when its super subtle... I didn't even notice until like three weeks later.. I thought it was burnt into the monitor I had to check another blank screen, LOL
[15:03] <vaxinated> hello world
[15:03] <sect114> Dr-Willis: thanks, im just imapatient
 this is a Internet prob....the servers must be overloaded...try another server
[15:03] <mtlife> Incarus6: it isnt giving me a warning, nor is it swithcing to the classic desktop
[15:04] <mtlife> FizzixNerd: so any idea how to reset the configuration for unity?
[15:04] <FizzixNerd> mtlife, you could try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity"
 But I recommend a fresh install
[15:04] <sect114> vibhav: thanks - fresh install from a DVD?
[15:04] <Incarus6> mtlife, some people say it is working with proprietary drivers but it isn't working with some proprietary drivers, so another requirement would be open source drivers. same for me, mtlife, Unity isn't stable yet
[15:05] <daxroc> Having problems with an nvidia quadro nns 295, only one monitor is being detected , Has any one seen this ?
 DVD - i f you want all languages preinstalled,  cd - if you want English.
[15:05] <htheman> help
[15:05] <daxroc>  *nns -> nvs
 yes?
[15:05] <sect114> vibhav: thanks for the advice!
[15:05] <maximm> soo

[15:06] <maximm> with 11.04 will you be able to move around your windows soon ?
  No problem!
[15:06] <maximm> and will is support 2 monitors soon ?
[15:06] <mtlife> Incarus6: when i run unity from console it quits with the message "found no decorator to start segmentation fault"
[15:06] <mtlife> FizzixNerd: I get "found no decorator to start segmentation fault" when i run unity from terminal
[15:06] <FizzixNerd> mtlife, it sounds like it's the same problem for both gnome and unity then - a window decorator problem
[15:07] <htheman> www.annhon2.com
[15:07] <shoxzy> been trying to SSH music into an ipod touch 4g and cant get it to work. trying to connect by going to Places > Connect to Server but its not working. Using a Touch 4g, Jailbroken and Ubuntu 10.10 Maverick Meerkat. Any advice?
[15:07] <janik> hi @ all
[15:07] <maximm> i don't think 11.04 has a window manager
  Try running this command:
[15:07] <vibhav> unity --reset
[15:07] <vibhav> Also, make sure you have the compiz-gnome package installed. This package contains unity-window-decorator. Run this command to ensure that compiz-gnome is installed:
[15:07] <vibhav> sudo apt-get install compiz-gnome
[15:07] <FloodBot2> vibhav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <maximm> rather it doesn't work yet
[15:07] <jrib> shoxzy: "isn't working" is too vague to give meaningful advice
[15:07] <shoxzy> well it comes up with no route to host
[15:08] <bazhang> htheman, dont paste that here
[15:08] <Asad2005> alltray firefox doesnot show atray icon in natty. Any idea?
[15:08] <shoxzy> ssh: connect to host 192.168.1.5 port 22: No route to host
[15:08] <jrib> shoxzy: did you install an sshd on the ipod?
[15:08] <shoxzy> yep
  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600766/
[15:08] <jrib> shoxzy: are you sure that's the right ip?
[15:08] <shoxzy> yep it says on sb settings thats the ip
[15:08] <shoxzy> it was working the other night
  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600766/
[15:09] <AceKing> izinucs, one more question.. I'm installing the Kubuntu like you told me in Terminal. Setup is asking if I want to use GDM or KDM, which should I choose?
[15:09] <jrib> shoxzy: try reconnecting to your network on your ipod
[15:09] <mtlife> vibhav: trying it now
 KDM
[15:09] <shoxzy> k
[15:09] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[15:09] <maximm> anyway to move or grab windows in 11.04 or can they only been static now ?
[15:09] <AceKing> vibhav, Thanks!
[15:09] <greentea> should I install the new ubuntu on a test machine?
[15:10] <mtlife> vibhav: genius... its working!
 No problem!
[15:10] <bazhang> ircbot, hi
 Thats good
  :D
[15:10] <FizzixNerd> see you later guys
[15:10] <FizzixNerd>  /wave
[15:10] <mtlife> vibhav: thank you, seems like some package dependencies are wrong!
[15:10] <shoxzy> still getting no route to host :/
[15:10] <izinucs> AceKing: kdm for kde and gdm for gnome/unity .. choose kdm .. when you switch to unity it should switch to gdm.. kubuntu doesn't use compiz
  No problem!
[15:10] <mtlife> vibhav: should be automatically installed with unity imho :), but thx!
  No problem!
[15:11] <coz_> rcconf,  there is a firefox plugin named   video  downloadhelpr
[15:11] <AceKing> izinucs, Ok Thanks again!
[15:11] <coz_> sorry  that is old
[15:11] <izinucs> AceKing: kubuntu/kde has also had "gestures" built in for some time
[15:11] <coz_> apologies guys
[15:11] <maximm> anyway to use a window manager in 11.04 ?
[15:11] <maximm> i can't move anything and i have no menu
[15:11] <Incarus6> mtlife, yes. did you try unity-2D?
[15:11] <coz_> maximm,  ah,, compiz is the window manager
 try unity --reset
[15:12] <maximm> coz well i can't grab windows and move them around
  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600766/
[15:12] <mtlife> Incarus6: I already got it working thx to vibhav, i missed the package compiz-gnome for some reason!
[15:12] <Mehrab> I wanna install a package in offline mode, so I need the list of dependencies, but I can,t create it on my own pc because the package list is not updated. is there anyone who installed 11.04 here to help me with that
[15:12] <coz_> maximm,  open ccsm and make sure the Move window plugin under  window management category is en abled
[15:12] <mtlife> Incarus6: but thx for the input
[15:12] <ScottONanski> Man, this build of Ubuntu is uber buggy.
[15:12] <heedlu> is there anyway to many hide the launcher? It doesn't always seem to auto-hide
[15:13] <mekwall> top - 16:13:26 up 1074 days,  6:31,  2 users,  load average: 53.07, 52.88, 45.52 ... hrm
[15:13] <heedlu> s/many/manually/
 maximize the windows....
[15:13] <mekwall> not feeling very well :P
[15:13] <tharsis> hello !
[15:13] <heedlu> vibhav: doesn't always work.
[15:13] <AndroUser2> no way
[15:13] <Incarus6> mtlife, thx for that information
 lemme seee.....
[15:13] <tharsis> i would like to send some keyboard events using a sh script.. is it possible ?
[15:14] <Bp0n0x58> Hello all
[15:14] <sukima_> Anyone know why after installing an adobe air app that it is removed every time I upgrade?
 refer to http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-change-unity-sidebar-launcher-auto-hide-behaviour-in-ubuntu-11-04
[15:14] <heedlu> vibhav: it works sometimes, but I see someone else has the same problem and submitted a bug report for it.
 refer to http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-change-unity-sidebar-launcher-auto-hide-behaviour-in-ubuntu-11-04
[15:14] <mekwall> wtf
[15:14] <mekwall> why would top show this high load?
[15:14] <mekwall> sar reports: all      0.08      0.00      0.21      0.21      0.00     99.50
[15:14] <schnuffle> mekwall: any qustions?
[15:15] <SERGioooo> hello there
[15:15] <schnuffle> mekwall: type shift P, to see which process is genrating that load, maybe your system is swaping?
[15:15] <SERGioooo> ??
[15:15] <schnuffle> !anyone | SERGioooo
[15:15] <maximm> will unity support 2 monitors ?
[15:16] <leagris> Here is the keyboard layout I get for french and it is wrong for all alternate selection what is causing that? http://demo.ovh.com/fr/fd9f8149af57dfaf95b5d839fcdf4eb5/
 anything happened?
[15:16] <escott> tharsis, events to what? an x client?
[15:16] <tharsis> escott, yes
[15:17] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  :)
[15:17] <escott> tharsis, xsendkeys
[15:17] <csharp_> !panels
[15:17] <SERGioooo> Does anyone know this gwibber work??:D
[15:17] <heedlu> vibhav: yep
[15:17] <heedlu> vibhav: thanks :)
[15:18] <vibhav> heedlu : No problem!
[15:18] <AceKing> izinucs, At the risk of sounding stupid, what are built in gestures?
[15:18] <SERGioooo> how this *
[15:18] <trijntje_natty> Hi all, is it possible to take your upload/download statistics from transmission to your next install?
[15:18] <tharsis> escott, i don't have xsendkeys, and i can't install it
[15:18] <Incarus6> Can someone in maverick pls paste "apt-cache policy libavdevice52"?
[15:18] <maximm> anyone able to get unity going on two monitors ?
[15:18] <NyvenZA> good day
[15:18] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: HAve you problems installing t or using it?
[15:18] <trirnoth> Hello all. Is there a way to see when I initially installed Ubuntu? I know I've done at least one dist upgrade - maybe more. Debating whether it's time to do a clean install.
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> !info libavdevice52 maverick | Incarus6
[15:19] <NyvenZA> has anyone else had a problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and the Makefile of the Linux headers has the incorrect version in?
[15:19] <escott> tharsis, you don't have root?
[15:19] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  I have a tech prob with it
 when a new release is out..I recommend a  clean install
[15:19] <SERGioooo> it is not syn ching
[15:19] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: then explain it othrwise help will be hard
[15:20] <osse> Have they moved the "try or install directly" choice to the GRUB menu or is there something wrong with my imagethingy??
[15:20] <Incarus6> ActionParsnip, are packages from "maverick-updates" repo automatically updated or is that a backport repo?
[15:20] <vibhav> any more questions?
[15:20] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  I keep adding accounts successfuly but gwibber stays blank:D
[15:20] <Mehrab_> is there anyone who can run grabpackages.py script in 11.04 and send me dependency list of a package please?
[15:20] <SERGioooo> no messages nothing
[15:20] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: you mean syncing to twitter?
[15:20] <tharsis> escott, i don't have internet on this computer. But i do have root. I can't really install anything
[15:20] <trirnoth> vibhav - great advise except I try to space them out every so often .... work computer and takes a long time to get everything back the way it was.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> Incarus6: it says its in the main repo, if you enable the updates one it may be different, I'm on Natty presently
[15:21] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  tried twiiter facebook buzz
[15:21] <NyvenZA> anyone with  Unity not esponding issues on 11.04 that have been able to resolve it >
[15:21] <trirnoth> Let's say then it's more out of curiosity than anything else.
[15:21] <NyvenZA> ?
[15:21] <SERGioooo> I get nothin
 Ya right.But a fresh install is better than an upgrade...
[15:21] <SoftTimur> Hello all, I just upgraded my ubuntu to 11.04. It is odd that after pressing Alt+F2, I could not launch "about:config", could anyone help?
[15:21] <trirnoth> curiosity.
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: you don't run about:config in dash, you use it in browsers..
[15:22] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: your internet connection is fine? I'll have to install it to check
[15:22] <knick> ^
[15:22] <NyvenZA> I upgraded to 11.04 and now my XOrg starts up with all the icons stretched and the input doesn't work.
[15:22] <Incarus6> ActionParsnip, jAguAr` got a depedency error when upgrading to Natty: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600759/ . all package numbers looks normal and I can't see any reason why it should output that "InstVer" error
[15:22] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: I do not see what you mean
[15:22] <NyvenZA> can't clik on anything or use the keyboard in the X
[15:23] <NyvenZA> I can get to a console though
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: about:config is used in web browsrs to show config, if you run it in an ALT+F2 dialogue it won't do anything (as far as I am aware0
[15:23] <NyvenZA> any one that might have any ideas/
[15:23] <Incarus6> SoftTimur, about:config is a Firefox command, correct?
[15:23] <tdn> After installing Ubuntu 11.04 and enabling the restricted Broadcom STA wifi driver, the wifi network stops working after a while. How do I fix this?
[15:23] <usr13> Incarus6: You put it in the URL line
[15:24] <usr13> and hit enter
[15:24] <Thriky> Out of interest, what happens if I'm downloading/updating/upgrading packages via SSH and my connection to the server dies? Am I in for trouble?
 in the network settings you have chosen Automatic or manual?
[15:24] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  sorry got dc
[15:24] <SERGioooo> :)
[15:24] <Incarus6> usr13, I know that, but thank you
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> Thriky:  good idea to use screen when doiung that sort of task
[15:24] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  can i copy paste the error from terminal
[15:24] <SERGioooo> ?
[15:24] <BlouBlou> !paste | SERGioooo
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> Thriky:  of course if screen gets updated... and is killed..
[15:24] <Thriky> lol
[15:25] <NyvenZA> :/
[15:25] <Thriky> Okay I'll look into screen
[15:25] <escott> tharsis, well lineakd has all the stuff you need xsendkeys/xevtest. what happens when you cat into the keyboard device? maybe you can create a fake keyboard device that pipes text through it. you could also try
[15:25] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: I do not know how to use about:config in a Firefox command
[15:25] <Thriky> I did imagine doing this via SSH is asking for trouble
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> Thriky:  ive seen people get locked out of systems doing that yes. :)
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> Incarus6: you could remove openoffice until the update is done, it will reduce downloaded apps as well as errors
[15:25] <trirnoth> I had goog'd for this before but just found it. For all that are sitting on the edge of their seats .... ls -al /var/log/installer/syslog    date seems to match what I expected to see.
[15:25] <Pici> Thriky: I always upgrade via ssh.  As long as it doesn't die during the install part, you should be fine.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: you can run:    firefox about:config
[15:25] <noidea693> Hey @ll
[15:25] <escott> tharsis, http://www.doctort.org/adam/nerd-notes/x11-fake-keypress-event.html
[15:26] <Incarus6> ActionParnsip, Im pretty sure lines 2 to 12 are causing that problem
[15:26] <TheNuts> ;;ident BitterTea
[15:26] <Incarus6> TheNuts, :D
[15:26] <escott> Thriky, more simply you could use nohup
[15:26] <noidea693> what's the recommended way to install TOR + proxy (privoxy, for example) on ubuntu 11.04?
[15:27] <noidea693> I found several ways, but those dated back to 2006 etc. ...
[15:27] <usr13> SoftTimur: It is to change configurations for firefox, you right-click and choose to modify
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> !tor
[15:27] <usr13> SoftTimur: It is to change configurations for firefox, you right-click on a particular entry and choose to modify
[15:27] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: I see what you mean, but I want to do this http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-make-the-panel-transparent-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal/
[15:27] <SERGioooo> Schn
[15:27] <SERGioooo> schnuffle: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600775/
[15:27] <vibhav> anybody with any problem???
[15:27] <NyvenZA> yes
[15:27] <NyvenZA> can you assist please ?
 Yeah
[15:28] <Mehrab_> anyone with 2 minutes of time and a 11.04 install? Please!
 Me
[15:28] <NyvenZA> I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 last night
 and?
[15:28] <NyvenZA> My XOrg starts up
[15:28] <escott> !help | Mehrab_ NyvenZA
[15:28] <gwallace42> Yep...can't get 11.04 to boot up.  Getting error "Disk Drive / is not ready yet or not present.
[15:28] <coz_> NyvenZA,  cook
[15:28] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: and I could not launch about:config as the link shows
  then?
[15:28] <coz_> cool
[15:28] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: How did you install gwibber?
[15:28] <coz_> NyvenZA,  rather  I meant cool
[15:28] <NyvenZA> but the icons on the screen are stretched and I can't clik on anything
[15:28] <noidea693> ah ok, thank you very much
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: how about if you type it in the address bar of the browser?
  Screen Resolution?
[15:29] <NyvenZA> I can't use the keyboard in x
[15:29] <NyvenZA> it is a dual screen setup
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: what video chip do you use?
[15:29] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  it was a clean installation ver 11.04
[15:29] <NyvenZA> and it uses the NVidea drivers
[15:29] <escott> NyvenZA, nvidia/ati or intel? have you tried an external usb keyboard/have one available
[15:29] <NyvenZA> let me get the res quickly
[15:29] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: it does not do anything
[15:29] <usr13> SoftTimur: hit enter
 does it work with one monitor?
[15:29] <SoftTimur> usr13: it does not show anything
[15:30] <escott> gwallace42, at what point in the boot
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: strange, usually it does: http://www.askdavetaylor.com/1-blog-pics/firefox-about-config.png   something like that
[15:30] <Incarus6> NyvenZA, are you running KDE?
[15:30] <trirnoth> Anyone try to install 11.04 in Parallels (mac vm software) ? whether using the ISO or a burned disc, get's to the actual installation point then states that disc cannot be found.
[15:30] <usr13> SoftTimur: Do you have a warning window come up?
[15:30] <Mehrab_> vibhav : thanks. i'd be quick. I wanna install a package in offline mode and I need dependency list. would you mind running grabpackages.py and send me the result list?
[15:30] <NyvenZA> nope default Unity
[15:30] <Igashu> So, how have peoples' experiences been with in-place updates from 10.10 to 11.04?   I have not had the best experiences with things going smoothly in the past...
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: remove the proprietary driver, reboot then install the driver and reboot again
[15:30] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: I tried that already
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> Igashu: I always clean install
 which package you want to install
[15:30] <usr13> SoftTimur: Maybe you need to restart firefox?
[15:31] <gwallace42> escott: It is attempting to load init_bottom scripts and I get that message
[15:31] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: yes I have that, but it is different from what the link shows
[15:31] <maximus_> Does anyone know what command I can use as a keyboard shortcut to Suspend my pc (without su)
[15:31] <escott> SoftTimur, there is no http:// in front of about:config, and you should get a warning where you have to say "I'll be careful"
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: you may want to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig   then restart X
[15:31] <Igashu> ActionParsnip, that's my inclination as well
 what is your screen resolution?
[15:31] <Thriky> Is there a trivial way to automatically jump into screen when connecting via ssh? (ie: execute command 'screen')
[15:31] <Mehrab_> vibnav : network-manager-gnome   . nad you can find the script here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6924258&postcount=1
[15:31] <escott> gwallace42, does it drop you to a busybox shell?
[15:32] <NyvenZA> in my xorg.conf : Srceen: Metamode CRT-0 Nvidia-auto-select +0+0, CRT-1: nvidia-auto-select +1280+0
[15:32] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: well, I see your point
[15:32] <SoftTimur> ActionParsnip: but isn't it odd that I could not launch about:config by Alt+F2 as the link shows?
[15:32] <gwallace42> escott: the last line on the screen is Continue to wait, S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery.  S skips everything in FSTAB, while manual drops me to root prompt on a read only file system.
[15:32] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: I am trying that now
[15:32] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  i just installed ubuntu 11.04
[15:32] <diaoer> hi everyone when i add JAVA_HOME into /etc/environment when i run eclipse it got wrong
[15:32] <maximus_> escott_, hey! you helped me before, was wondering if you know a command I can use to suspend natty without su...want to add it as a keyboard shortcut
[15:33] <gwallace42> escott: have been waiting since I got here, nothing is happening.
 try unity --reset
[15:33] <NyvenZA> vibhav: it looks like it is 1280
[15:33]  * Binary_Wolf is back.
[15:33] <tharsis> escott, your last link works perfectly. Thank you so much
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> SoftTimur: i've never ran it from ALT+F2, always from with the browser
 try it with one monitor....
[15:33] <escott> gwallace42, so you have the busybox shell (M manual recovery open)
[15:33] <gwallace42> Yes
[15:33] <NyvenZA> vibhav: will try that next
[15:33] <escott> gwallace42, and do you know what the / mountpoint is?
[15:33] <gwallace42> escott: sorry, name didn't click..but yes I can get to the shell
[15:33] <SoftTimur> actually, what I am trying to do is... to move the panel on the top of the screen to the right side...
[15:34] <escott> rather what the drive is
[15:34] <NyvenZA> vibhav: I have tried the --reset earlier today and that didn't work either
[15:34] <SoftTimur> does anyone know how to do it?
[15:34] <gwallace42> escott: the mount point is /dev/sda1
[15:34] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: try launching gwibber-service before launching gwibber
[15:34] <Incarus6> ActionParnisp, ah, its opens "about:config" as a link with the default browser, and that was firefox for him
[15:34] <dazappa> I have a lovely samsung netbook, upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04, and the brightness of the LCD is unaffected by changing the brightness. In the live CD of 11.04, this works! Should I try installing from scratch?
[15:34] <escott> gwallace42, (a) is there a /dev/sda1 (b) what are the contents of /proc/partitions (c) can you fsck /dev/sda1
[15:35] <econdudeawesome> Holy cow the Unity desktop interface is a bowl of suckage. How do I get back my normal Gnome2 session where things work, like Docky and Adobe Flash nsflash plugin and compiz?
[15:35] <NyvenZA> holy crap text font on boot up is totly screwed, if I try and boot with just one screen in now
[15:36] <escott> econdudeawesome, ubuntu classic from the gdm login screen (after putting your name in)
[15:36] <usr13> escott: gwallace42   Best not to fsck a running file system.
[15:36] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600788/
[15:36] <escott> usr13, he is in his initrd
[15:36] <inertial> I'll make the effort to try unity for a few days...
[15:36] <usr13> o
[15:36] <econdudeawesome> escott: In Ubuntu classic my metacity won't work, and my gnome menu won't popup with alt+f1
[15:36]  * NyvenZA tries to use the other monitoer olone on startup
[15:37] <maximus_> escott, hey! you helped me before, was wondering if you know a command I can use to suspend natty without su...want to add it as a keyboard shortcut
[15:37] <gwallace42> escott: (a) yes there is a /dev/sda1.  (b) there are 4 entries in /proc/partitions (sda, sda1,sda2, sda5) sda2 has a block count of 1 (c) I ran fsck.ext4 on /dev/sda1 while booted from LiveCD.  Found a couple issues and it fixed them.  Rebooted after and same result.
[15:37] <NyvenZA> ok, only on one screen now and can still not click on anything or use keyboard shortcuts.
[15:37] <escott> maximus_, don't use suspend myself
[15:38] <Fredje> maximus_:  you can try this: echo <password> | sudo -S commando
[15:38] <NyvenZA> CTRL + Alt + F1 does work so I can get to a console at least
[15:38] <step2> maximus_, the menu option doesn't work?
[15:38] <maximus_> escott, ty
[15:38] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/gwibber/unity-lens-gwibber/+bug/758839
[15:38] <escott> usr13, do you know how the initrd transfers into the true root? is it just a bind mount?
[15:38] <maximus_> Fredje, will try that
[15:39] <escott> gwallace42, sda2 is an extended partition with a single logical (sda5 for swap) inside it. blockcount 1 is normal
[15:39] <usr13> escott: I don't know... sorry
[15:39] <maximus_> step2, too lazy to use the mouse every time, when i'm running out the door its cool to have a button to press..my old logitech had one, new kb doesnt
[15:39] <gwallace42> escott: I recognized the others, just not sda2...
[15:39] <usr13> escott: What is he trying to do?
[15:39] <escott> gwallace42, can you check the output of mount to confirm sda1 not mounted
[15:39] <ramb0> Hey, I need some help with natty.. Have just upgraded from maverick and the log in buttons just dissapeared =/ Its like that image but without the password field and the Cancel and Log in buttons.. any advice?
[15:39] <usr13> escott: gwallace42 df
[15:40] <escott> usr13, he is stuck in initrd because drive was not ready
[15:40] <usr13> o
[15:40] <step2> maximus_, there prob is one (but not sure if without su) but I don't know it, maybe google will help :)
[15:40] <maximus_> step2, thanks
[15:40] <Mehrab_> vibhav : network-manager-gnome   . and you can find the script here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6924258&postcount=1
[15:40] <escott> gwallace42, sounds like a race in your boot with initrd wanting to mount the rootfs and the pci not being fully initialized. we probably need to put a delay in for your hardware
[15:40] <SoftTimur> hello all, does anyone know how to unlock the top panel and move it in ubuntu 11.04?
[15:41] <escott> gwallace42, confirm that you can mount the sda1 partition with mkdir /mnt/rootfs; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/rootfs
[15:41] <step2> SoftTimur, you mean with unity?
[15:41] <gwallace42> escott: according to df and /proc/mounts /dev/sda is mounted to /
[15:41] <schneidmaster> Hey, does anyone know how to modify application launchers in natty? (ie, change the command)
[15:41] <SoftTimur> step2: I do not see what is "unity"?
[15:41] <escott> gwallace42, sda or sda1?
[15:42] <step2> SoftTimur, the new default desktop with one panel on top and one on the left
[15:42] <SoftTimur> step2: I just do not like the position of the top panel, I want to put it on the right
[15:42] <escott> gwallace42, can you ls the contents of /home then? do you see your home folder
[15:42] <NyvenZA> vibhav: ok, on one screen teh same thing happens, the icons are just not stretched
[15:42] <gwallace42> escott: i see everything in my /home directory.
[15:42] <step2> SoftTimur, I got that but I need to know what you are using. if you are in unity you can't move it
[15:43] <NyvenZA> I think ramb0 anad I have a similar probblem
[15:43] <escott> gwallace42, hmmm well thats weird
[15:43] <SERGioooo> schnuffle:  so it;'s not yet fixed/
[15:43] <SERGioooo> ?
[15:43] <SoftTimur> step2: what do you mean by "in unity"?
[15:43] <schnuffle> SERGioooo: apparently
[15:43] <HerCury> schneidmaster: here's a related link that might help http://askubuntu.com/questions/34597/how-do-i-make-a-custom-launcher-for-terminal-applications
[15:43] <ramb0> NyvenZA, I didn't read your problem >.< I can't just log in into natty :(
[15:43] <gwallace42> escott: I tried the previous command to mkdir rootfs in /mnt and mount to that, but can';t as fjile system is in read-only mode.
[15:44] <NyvenZA> ramb0: I upgraded and I just get the desktop
[15:44] <NyvenZA> no login
[15:44] <NyvenZA> I can't click on anything and I can't use the keyboardshortcuts
[15:44] <escott> gwallace42, yeah you don't need to do that. i thought sda1 wasn't getting mounted
[15:44] <pension> can someone take a look at http://173.242.126.219/bug.html
[15:44] <slimjimflim> anybody know the best way to install eclipse pdt on ubuntu?
[15:44] <step2> SoftTimur, I told you ... it's a desktop environment that is new with one panel at the left (that autohides) and one on the top. there is still the option to choose the old environment on login
[15:44] <NyvenZA> I do see that if I move my mouse over where the login should be , the edit cursor appreas
[15:44] <step2> !unity
[15:45] <escott> gwallace42, mount -o remount,rw / and see what it says
[15:45] <gwallace42> escott: this is all very odd.
[15:45] <schneidmaster> HerCury: not really actually.  I just want to modify the Skype launcher so it executes the command "webcamWrapper.sh skype" instead of "skype" (as this is the script I used to solve my inverted-webcam bug)
[15:45] <ramb0> NyvenZA, have you tried reinstalling GDM ?
[15:45] <schneidmaster> I could make a custom launcher but then I just have two launchers in unity
[15:46] <nphase> what do you guys suggest for setting up an ftp server?
[15:46] <NyvenZA> not yet,
[15:46] <defiantredpill> vsftpd
[15:46] <step2> schneidmaster, you can remove the other one. making a custom one prob. easier than modifying
[15:46] <NyvenZA> ramb0: have you ?
[15:46] <nphase> defiantredpill: cool thx
[15:46] <nphase> so not proftpd?
[15:47] <escott> gwallace42, if you can remount you could try sudo init 5 to see if you can get to a gui
[15:47] <ramb0> its not my computer which has the problem, it's my uncle's computer, who is in another state :P can't just tell him "reinstall GDM"
[15:47] <maximus_> Fredje, AWESOME! i used      bash -c "echo 559 | sudo -S pm-suspend"    and it works perfectly (= If i ever meet you i'm buying u a beer!
[15:47] <escott> gwallace42, you don't even need the sudo
[15:47] <NyvenZA> lol
[15:47] <schnuffle> nphase: profpd does the job, I use it
[15:48] <NyvenZA> It is my work PC so now I can't work
[15:48] <SoftTimur> step2: I see... is there a quick way to go back to the classic/previous layout?
[15:48] <Fredje> maximus_: Nice that it works for you!
[15:48] <nphase> schnuffle, defiantredpill: proftpd > vsftpd?
[15:48] <maximus_> Fredje, lol yes i just published my password...blonde moment
[15:48] <nodie> hi, I've installed 11.04 this morning and I'm using Unity, I suppose that I've activated some type of keybind and now the bar at the left is always on
[15:48] <escott> gwallace42, i wonder if the device could have been mounted in between the error message and the time it took us to start running commands in the busybox shell
[15:48] <nodie> I want it to appear and disappear
[15:48] <Fredje> maximus_: lol!, I did not even notices:P
[15:49] <escott> gwallace42, have you ever waited to see if the error will disappear on its own?
[15:49] <defiantredpill> vsftpd is what ubuntu recomends in the server guide, i used it before, config is not too bad. never used proftpd
[15:49] <schnuffle> nphase: don't have enough experience with vsftpd o judge
[15:49] <nodie> how can I do that?
[15:49] <Aikar> nodie: if i was gonna keep unity i woulda asked you how you did that, i hate auto hide, but im ditching unity
[15:49] <codebeaker> hi all, why doesn't 11.04 include postgresql 9.x ?
[15:49] <nodie> Aikar, I don't know what I did!
[15:49] <Aikar> ;p;
[15:49] <Aikar> lol
[15:49] <nodie> and I hate it there, it's distracting
[15:49] <schnuffle> nphase: if ubuntu suggests vsftpd then use it
[15:49] <HerCury> nodie: install ccsm and select autohide from unity plugin section
[15:49] <maximus_> Fredje, only have a simple one coz ubuntu wants one...so no biggie. Thanks for ur help. chow
[15:49] <Aikar> sudo apt-get remove unity && sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator!
[15:50] <nphase> schnuffle: i dont know what it suggests
[15:50] <nodie> HerCury, what is ccsm ??
[15:50] <step2> SoftTimur, choose 'logout' (top right menu i think) then at the login screen there is a bar at the bottom where you can choose
[15:50] <escott> !ccsm | nodie
[15:50] <schnuffle> nphase:  defiantredpill: vsftpd is what ubuntu recomends in the server guide
[15:50] <dd214> Is there a way in Unity to open multiple terminals?  I have the terminal docked in taskbar, but if I want to open more than one terminal, I've got to use the Unity search to open a new terminal window...
[15:50] <nphase> ok
[15:51] <gwallace42> escott: Waiting gives 2 messages: spaming Maintenance Shell and init: moutall main process terminated with status 3
[15:51] <rigved> dd214: Ctrl+Alt+T
[15:51] <Mehrab_> vibhav : sorry to bother again, but have you got my reply?
[15:51] <defiantredpill> Does anyone know where to find the list of patches in the ubuntu kernel. (not the one big diff)
[15:51] <defiantredpill> https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
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[15:52] <schneidmaster> I figured it out if anyone cares lol.  Themes&tweaks -> main menu lets you edit launcher commands
[15:52] <t67> In Epiphany when I go to Edit > Personal Data > Passwords, I see nothing, but my passwords DO show up in seahorse.
[15:52] <ramb0> NyvenZA, I have told my uncle to reinstall GDM :p let's see what happens..
[15:52] <NyvenZA> ok, this is just stupid, on reboot, I get my desktop being displayed, but I can't click on the icons, When I move the mouse around, on the screen around the middle of the screen the cursor chnages to the edit icon. So the login windows looks like it is there, but ic an't login to it.
[15:52] <t67> How come Epiphany Edit > Personal Data > Passwords is empty?
[15:52] <gsp2009> good morning folks. Anyone here now running natty, with twinview? is it normal to have the top panel duplicated on both screens?
[15:53] <Dr_Willis> gsp2009:  ive heard that dual screen + unity can be quirky
[15:53] <joru> im running the livecd of 11.04 and suddenly i can only use mouse, no more way of clicking windows etc. ideas?
[15:53] <escott> gwallace42, init 5 didnt do any good?
[15:53] <biffbaxter> Ha...anything with unity can be quirky :)
[15:53] <Fredje> Dr_Willis: Thanks for the info then I will wait with upgrading my laptop
[15:53] <Vhozard> how can I view boot messages ?
[15:53] <gsp2009> Dr_Willis, ok.. thanks.. this is not good news for me..
[15:53] <NyvenZA> Dr_Willis: and gsp2009 I also have issues, but i am trying it on one screen now and still have issues
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[15:54] <Mehrab_> vibhav : ok, so I repeat: network-manager-gnome   . and you can find the script here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6924258&postcount=1
[15:54] <escott> gwallace42, im just curious if you can resume the boot from this point or if it is completely borked
[15:54] <gwallace42> escott: it ran through some options, and dropped me to a terminal login.
[15:54] <step2> Vhozard, depends which ones ... 'dmesg' for one
[15:54] <escott> gwallace42, ok
[15:54] <gsp2009> NyvenZA, everything else works fine for me it seems. Just a little weird having the panel twice.
[15:54] <Vhozard> the one that you see on startup, step2
[15:54] <somethinginteres> Vhozard: dmesg from terminal?
[15:55] <Dr_Willis> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/become-a-natty-power-user-in-no-time-using-this-unit-keyboard-shortcuts-wallpaper/   Worth checking out for unity beginners
[15:55] <chopin> i think my gvfs on 10.04 is screwed up ... won't connect to a smb share.  anyone know where to look / what to do?
[15:55] <escott> gwallace42, is udevd --daemon running
[15:55] <Vhozard> how can I scroll in it from within terminal?
[15:55] <mikebeecham1> Hi guys...I've removed the recommended nvidia drivers, rebooted and now I have no display. I can get into ttyl...can anyone help me get display back?
[15:55] <gwallace42> escott: Glad I decided to to my master backup of my work data yesterday.  But I hate having to reinstall VBox and winXP again.
[15:55] <Xeli> hello, i'd like to change from kde to unity, can i use the same documentation as when one would switch from kde to gnome?
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[15:55] <usr13> Vhozard: shift PageUp
[15:55] <Vhozard> thanks
[15:55] <v_v> when i use the liveCD  to install 11.04, it supports unity. but the installed ubuntu on my laptop doesn't, how to enable unity ?
[15:56] <escott> gwallace42, well the drive seems fine so you should be able to copy the system image around (if you don't mind moving multi gig files around)
[15:56] <rpk> Can someone tell me how to disable gpg key validation in synaptic?
[15:56] <escott> gwallace42, and i've been told that there is an install option for presevering /home
[15:56] <escott> preserving
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> v_v:  install the unity2d package perhaps.
[15:56] <usr13> rpk: why?
[15:56] <gwallace42> escott: Cant say, my login is not working.  I have logged in on a terminal before, but its not working today .
[15:56] <Dr_Willis> v_v:  or install the proper 3d drivers for the laptop
[15:56] <TA> hi
[15:57] <escott> gwallace42, my suspicious is that the boot is going too fast there seems to be nothing wrong with the drive
[15:57] <rpk> Adding ppa repositories doesn't respect my proxy settings as set through network manager
[15:57] <semitones> so -- what are the common questions that people ask about nattttty
[15:57] <Fredje> TheAnachron: Hi
[15:57] <rpk> And I'm done trying to hack config files to fix it
[15:57] <rpk> usr13: I don't care if my packages are verified, I want it to just work
[15:57] <escott> gwallace42, if it were me I would see if there is some what to slow down the boot process. i know you could do it by gunziping the initrd, and adding a sleep somewhere between when udev starts and the remount happens
[15:57] <escott> gwallace42, there may be a better way though
[15:57] <usr13> rpk: sudo apt-get update
[15:58] <rpk> usr13: GPG error: The following signatures couldn't be veriefied because the public key is not available ....
[15:58] <NyvenZA> arg, why the hell does the kernel source MakeFile file have the wrong version in?
[15:58] <gwallace42> escott: i tried one of the older kernels in grub just to see if it makes a difference, but that didn't.  I may just have to download the image on my laptop and re-install.  I will check grub and see if the is something in there that can slow the boot process.
[15:59] <rpk> usr13: Therefore, I'm fine turning off all of gpg, I just need to know how to disable it
[15:59] <NyvenZA> it has 2.6.38.2 and the kernel that comes with natty is 2.6.38.8
[15:59] <gwallace42> escott: thanks for the help man...appreciate it.  Have a good one
[15:59] <escott> gwallace42, goodluck
[15:59] <NyvenZA> I can't recompile the vboxdrivers now
[15:59] <igor_> hola
[15:59] <semitones> Natty's keyboard is less responsive than maverick's -- anyon equess why?
[15:59] <escott> gwallace42, the initrd process isn't that bad, just annoying, you just unzip, loop mount the file, make your changes and then mkinitrd and replace
[15:59] <igor_> !list
[16:00] <usr13> rpk: Your problem may be in sources.list
[16:00] <rpk> Yes, I often add ppas with add-apt-repository
[16:01] <dennda> When you hit super in unity, it gives you these nice numbers for the apps. That doesn work for Chromium. Is there a fix? Also, how is that number-feature called?
[16:01] <rpk> usr13: because add-apt-repository does not use the proxy settings, it can't handle getting the gpg key
[16:01] <axisys> how do I put lvm on ubuntu desktop ? I do not see LVM option
[16:01] <rpk> usr13: therefore any ppa I have will fail to install / update.  Obviously this makes ubuntu unusable.  Therefore I would like to disable gpg verification of my packages
[16:02] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello. I'm having some trouble with Thunderbird and Unity. I can't access the main menu for the application. Any know what's going on?
[16:02] <usr13> rpk: If your proxy configuration is correct, apt should use it too.
[16:02] <izinucs> axisys: lvm is part of the alternate install cd.. and not on the desktop live cd
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> dennda: works here, clean install natty
[16:02] <lgp171188> Hi, I found in Ubuntu Natty that Gwibber supports only Twitter, Identica and Facebook accounts though actually Gwibber supports more social networks. Why?
[16:02] <DasEi> axisys: use manual partitioning, use extended ones, that sets up lvm
[16:02] <usr13> rpk: Can you ping a valid domain name?   try this;  ping av.com
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> rpk: you may need to add the config in apt.conf
[16:02] <Dr_Willis> lgp171188:  perhaps theres some plugins it needs installed.
[16:03] <exchgr> is anyone else missing a ton of indicator applets?
[16:03] <usr13> rpk: ActionParsnip may be correct.  I don't know.
[16:03] <DasEi> exchgr: I did and switched back to gnome
[16:03] <usr13> rpk: ActionParsnip But I've used a proxy before and never had to do that.
[16:03] <axisys> izinucs: no wonder why I did not see it
[16:03] <exchgr> DasEi, how do I go about doing that?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> rpk: in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/proxy     put     Acquire::http::Proxy "http://proxy:8080";
[16:03] <cbart> how do you add applets to the top unity panel?
[16:04] <ouss999> hi
[16:04] <heedlu> cbart: you really can't
[16:04] <axisys> DasEi: i guess with alternate iso correct?
[16:04] <linux> canale in ita
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> usr13: i've hadto add it in the past, then i stopped using proxy
[16:04] <linux> ?
[16:04] <DasEi> exchgr: under powerbutton > set default session > gnome-classic
[16:04] <lgp171188> Dr_Willis: Exactly. I see now that there are packages to add social networks. But I am wondering why these networks which were present, were moved to plugins while Twitter, Identica and facebook escaped? Guess it is due to popularity
[16:04] <heedlu> cbart: they are called indicators now, and they are not the same
[16:04] <Dr_Willis> lgp171188:  and disk space.
[16:04] <exchgr> DasEi, thanks
[16:04] <tjiggi_fo> !it | linux
[16:04] <DasEi> axisys: best, yes, more options there
[16:04] <cbart> great.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> usr13: rpk: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+question/1320
[16:04] <usr13> ActionParsnip: I guess not all proxys are equal :(
[16:05] <dennda> ActionParsnip: just did the very same thing
[16:05] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'm at work.
[16:05] <axisys> DasEi: are you saying desktop live may have lvm option as well?
[16:05] <NyvenZA> how can i change back to classic login / gui fromthe command line. I can't see the login screen to select it there
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> usr13: i guess, I used polipo, nice and simple
[16:05] <somethinginteres> linux !lang-it
[16:05] <Dr_Willis> NyvenZA:  you could edit the .dmrc file I guess.. but im not sure what belongs in there for classic desktop
[16:05] <wazzup> how can i find out my cpu temp in ubuntu ??
[16:05] <dennda> ActionParsnip: ok i had to restart chromium
[16:05] <cbart> can you atleast change the order of the icons on the left panel?
[16:05] <rpk> ActionParsnip: not sure that applies, we don't have to authenticate, but I added it so I'll see if it works
[16:05] <hodges> Is the Launcher in nutty narwhal fixed or can I move it?
[16:05] <lgp171188> wazzup: You need to install sensors
[16:05] <usr13> ActionParsnip: I see....  Thanks info
[16:05] <wazzup> ok will try
[16:05] <Sylphid> hey all....having a problem with front panel audio, if i start audio it everything defaults to rear panel however if i run aplay /some/audio.wav and start another track durring the aplay it goes to the front panel, any tips on how to toggle between front and back panel only?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> hodges: it's natty, not nutty
[16:06] <lgp171188> wazzup: sensord and sensor-applets
[16:06] <hodges> ActionParsnip, I was close for guessing.
[16:06] <DasEi> axisys: should, if you choose manuall partit. and then set up extended partitons, that will be done with lvm, also if you use default > whole disk, it's lvm
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> hodges: its stuck on the left now, it may be movablelater
[16:06] <gnychis> how can I enable Unity in the Preferences or Administration?
[16:06] <noteventime> Anybody have any idea whether there have been any changes in natty relating to xmodmap? It no longer wants me to disable caps lock.
[16:06] <hodges> thanks
[16:06] <wazzup> lgp171188 : when i search for sensors > i get 100 matches
[16:06] <DasEi> axisys: the alternate gives more options, though
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> dennda: does the button flash if you use thesuper key to launch the app?
[16:06] <mnoyce> I'm getting quite annoyed with applications seemlingly defaulting to opening maximised, e.g. Totem. Is there anyway to turn this maximise behaviour off?
[16:06] <axisys> DasEi: default whole disk is LVM? i did not know that.. will it put /boot on separate slice as well?
[16:07] <rpk> ActionParsnip: actually, my proxy settings are already there from network manager
[16:07] <dennda> ActionParsnip: kind of, yes
[16:07] <lgp171188> wazzup: the package names are 'sensord' and 'sensor-applets'
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> rpk: i see
[16:07] <wazzup> ok
[16:07] <dennda> When you press meta in unity, it brings up this search dialogue. How do you map that to another key combination?
[16:07] <DasEi> axisys: no, boot is under root in default unless you use encryption
[16:07] <tjiggi_fo> wazzup, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SensorInstallHowto
[16:07] <usr13> ActionParsnip: rpk   It seems to me that if you can ping a valid domain name then the proxy is not the issue.  Am I right in my assumption?
[16:07] <DasEi> axisys: so is home
[16:08] <axisys> DasEi: i use only my home dir encrypted.. so i guess i will be ok
[16:08] <usr13> rpk: Did you try pinging   av.com ?
[16:08] <DasEi> yes
[16:08] <rpk> usr13: no, I can't ping out as well
[16:08] <dennda> The default behavior annoys me to no end
[16:08] <somethinginteres> linux: Ubottu !it
[16:09] <usr13> rpk: Ok.  I'm convinced.  You are on the right track.
[16:09] <rpk> usr13: However, I can get tot the internet through firefox or chrome
[16:09] <Sylphid> usr13, ping would not go through the proxy, it would follow the default route
[16:09] <thebishop> anyone get the Synaptics clickpad to work in Natty?
[16:09] <usr13> Sylphid: Depends on the proxy.
[16:09] <rpk> Sylphid, usr13, yeah afaik thats correct, ping should ignore my proxy
[16:09] <rpk> however, apt-add-repository should not, but does
[16:10] <Vhozard> how can I add vga=xxx to grub ?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> usr13: ping uses a different protocol so may be different
[16:10] <usr13> Sylphid: There are different types of proxys
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: add it in /etc/default/grub in the quotes with:  quiet splash
[16:10] <rpk> oh, and as an aside, how am I supposed to get to windows under other windows in unity?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: then run: sudo update-grub
[16:11] <Vhozard> <--- used to editing /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:11] <Vhozard> :P
[16:11] <koichirose> Hello, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04 and many firefox icons don't show up anymore, including the back button, stop button and the firefox icon itself (!). How do I fix it?
[16:11] <rpk> like if I have this chat windows open with chrome over it, and I get a notification that someone replied
[16:11] <usr13> Sylphid: There is HTTP Proxy  and Transparent Proxy etc.
[16:11] <Sylphid> usr13, ping will only ever go through the proxy if it is also the default route
[16:11] <noteventime> rpk: I think the new bar thing gives you a list of all available windows for each application as a popup (similarly to the way gnome can group similar windows)
[16:11] <rpk> how do i switch back to chat without minimizing chrome
[16:11] <rpk> yeah, but I have two monitors and its all the way on the left
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> rpk:  i just alt-tab a lot.
[16:11] <maximm> how do i support 2 monitors ?
[16:11] <maximm> i can only use one atm since the upgrade
[16:12] <rpk> and with the new bar I have no way to select which specific windows i'd like to open
[16:12] <rpk> either
[16:12] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, make sure you have the correct display driver
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> rpk:  the omgubuntu blog site has a wallpaper- keyboard shortcuts thing.  may be in there.
[16:12] <rpk> it pretty much sucks right now :(
[16:12] <usr13> Sylphid: With a Transparent Proxy, it will be the default route.
[16:12] <maximm> the other is enabled but unity isn't runnin on it and it is just my wallpaper
[16:12] <Liiin> Hello
[16:12] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, what card do you use?
[16:12] <rpk> Dr_Willis: already looked at that already
[16:12] <Sylphid> usr13, correct
[16:12] <maximm> i had it setup before it sees my nvidia
[16:12] <Dr_Willis> rpk:  if you have 3 terminals  open and 1 icon. and click on that icon it should do a layout of all 3.
[16:12] <usr13> Sylphid: What he has is probably HTTP proxy.
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Vhozard: grub2 doesn't use that now, editting the grub file will add the option to all future kernels for you
[16:12] <Sylphid> usr13, agreed
[16:12] <maximm> just no window decorator or menus on the second screen
[16:12] <chadi> Hi. This could be a serious problem. While ubiquity was downloading new packages before installing, i hit skip, and it hanged. What do I do now?
[16:12] <rpk> usr13, ActionParsnip: https://bugs.launchpad.net/software-properties/+bug/443404
[16:13] <noteventime> rpk: It doesn't give you a list of available windows when you hover/right-click the relevant icon? (I haven't used Unity a lot, just remember from trying it out when it was new).
[16:13] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, there is a settings manager for nvidia in apt
[16:13] <maximm> yeah i have it
[16:13] <rpk> usr13, ActionParsnip: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1593268
[16:13] <maximm> my monitor is enabled
[16:13] <rpk> both of those detail my issue exactly
[16:13] <Liiin> Can the ROOT block an user to set "OTHER USERS" PERMISSION ?
[16:13] <maximm> just no menu or window decorator
[16:13] <sdegutis> /me cant do actions yet :(
[16:13] <shane4ubuntu1> ok, getting more used to unity, when an app is full screen how to I move it to my other screen?
[16:13] <Liiin> I mean example 770 660
[16:13] <Liiin> ALWAYS 0 at the end
[16:13] <dennda> ActionParsnip: altho that feature is kind of buggy i have the feeling
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> rpk: then add the ppa in /etc/apt/sources.list    then manually import the key
[16:13] <Liiin> is it possible?
[16:13] <NyvenZA> ok, I have now tried to install lightdm as a replacement for gdm and when I start it, i just get a black screen
[16:13] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, do you use some kind of desktop composition?
[16:13] <rpk> noteventime: no, thats what i wish it did
[16:14] <NyvenZA> I then stopped lightdm again and just ran startx
[16:14] <ActionParsnip> dennda: not sure, could log it
[16:14] <maximm> compiz
[16:14] <chadi> is it safe to kill ubiquity?
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  the ombubuntu blog site has a wallpaper image listing the shortcuts
[16:14] <rpk> ActionParsnip: I can't do that for every ppa all day long.  Thats why I want to just disable gpg
[16:14] <shane4ubuntu1> also on pidgin I have no scroll bar to scroll down on this thing, or up.
[16:14] <NyvenZA> I get the desktop icons appearing and the mouse, but no menus, side bar and rightclick mensues
[16:14] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  look closely.. the scroll bar sort of auto-hide in a lot of apps now
[16:14] <bl4ckcomb`> maximm, maybe you should recheck your xorg configuration or read your messages log for compiz errors
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: if you go to the ppa page, you'll see the key and you can copy / paste the text to a file then run:  sudo apt-key add file
[16:16] <usr13> rpk: Did you do as ActionParsnip said and add the config line appropriately?
[16:16] <maximm> yeah will do some digging thnx
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: invalid gpg keys letting malicious software be installed isn't a real world problem
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: I'm sorry, not another desktop, I have dual screen and want to drag it over to the other screen
[16:16] <rpk> usr13: yeah
[16:16] <chadi> Please help me guys, I am stuck in the middle of the installation :/
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: well you have a workaround til it gets sorted
[16:16] <rpk> usr13: it was already there, apt-add-repository doesn't respect that setting
[16:16] <NyvenZA> when I try and click on an icon and trag it, the mouse Icon changes to a drag icon, but nothing actaully happens to the icons ont he desktop
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  if full screened. they are proberly locked. you would need to un-max them  Perhaps a compiz keybinding coulkd do it without unmaxing them first
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: its been open since early 9.04 builds
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> chadi: if it hasn't finished then you will have half an OS
[16:16] <mtlife> why is there a debian splash screen in grub AND in gdm when i upgraded to 11.04?
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: yikes
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: I had the same problem in 10.10
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: as for the scroll bar, right, but in pidgin it just doesn't exist, when I scroll over to where it should be and get the arrows, there aren't any.
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: thanks.
[16:16] <CoolCoder> hi. I have upgraded my system to ubunto 11.x (new version .) I need to use the old theme of 10.x .what should i do? because there is no taskbar and all in new version. so i am feeling unconfortable to find the programs
[16:16] <Liiin> ??
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> shane4ubuntu1:  i dont use pidgin. so no idea. :) could be a bug.
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> rpk: glad I stopped using a proxy
[16:16] <gtklocker> https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672 RT if you like it >.<
[16:16] <maximm> coolcoder use classic mode
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: on the buddy list window or the channel window?
[16:16] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'm at work unfortunately.
[16:16] <CoolCoder> where do i get this?
[16:16] <maximm> change it at the login screen
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> !classic
[16:16] <shane4ubuntu1> Dr_Willis: for the full screen app, I was hoping to get around that, but thanks, also for the pidgin thanks anyway.
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> sounds like we need a new faq factoid. :)
[16:16] <DasEi> CoolCoder: switch back to gnome
[16:17] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: for the channel window
[16:17] <serene> !classic
[16:17] <CoolCoder> DasEi:any help?
[16:17] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : under powerbutton > set default session > gnome-classic
[16:17] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : then re-login
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: yeah I've got one on the main window as well as the user list
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> DasEi:  heh.. never noticed that.. looking now.
[16:17] <shane4ubuntu1> after about a day of using Unity, and breaking it twice, I'm getting more accustomed to it.
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: i'm using uity though
[16:18] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: yeah, I'm on unity too
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> rpk: i see, then all I can suggest is use the workaround
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[16:18] <usr13> rpk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+bug/516032
[16:18] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: when I go over the users, a scroll bar (arrows) pop up, but not so for the channel window.
[16:18] <CoolCoder> DasEi: under power button there is no such option.
[16:19] <Asad2005> alltray firefox doesnot show atray icon in natty. Any idea?
[16:19] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: ahh, found it, on the users list, it is only towards the top, and the channel list only towards the bottom on the left hand side of both they appear.
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> shane4ubuntu1: nice
[16:19] <shane4ubuntu1> ActionParsnip: odd, but they are there, thanks.
[16:20] <rpk> usr13: They didn't previously verify the gpg keys
[16:20] <rpk> usr13: you could bypass the invalid keys by default, so it wasn't a problem
[16:20] <rpk> usr13: it no longer responds to the --allow-unauthenticated switch though
[16:20] <koichirose> Hello, I just upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04 and many firefox icons don't show up anymore, including the back button, stop button and the firefox icon itself (!). How do I fix it? I already tried to reset to default toolbars
[16:20] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : right top, there should be a symbol to power down..
[16:20] <NyvenZA> does unity REQUIRE 3d >
[16:21] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : ..systemsettings, loginscreen
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: yes
[16:21] <NyvenZA> ah
[16:21] <CoolCoder> k
[16:21] <NyvenZA> that might be my problem then
[16:21] <ninjai> some applications (eclipse, libre office) still have the menu items on the windows instead of the top panel.  What gives?
[16:21] <ChogyDan> koichirose: do you have all the toolbars enabled?
[16:21] <ActionParsnip> koichirose: set a new theme and it should be ok
[16:21] <NyvenZA> is there a 2d version or something I can do to make it work on older hardware >
[16:21] <mtlife> where can i change gdm theme in ubuntu 11.04?
[16:21] <koichirose> ChogyDan, yes. I see empty buttons.
[16:21] <rpk> How did they release unity with so many high priority bugs open?
[16:22] <koichirose> ActionParsnip, a new ubuntu theme you mean? But I like my human ^^
[16:22] <Skei> Hey everyone. I've just upgraded to 11.04, and when I boot, my screen just stays black. I'm now under an earlier kernel which seems to work, but I got an error saying I didn't have the hardware to run Unity, and I should select something else. Any ideas ?
[16:22] <usr13> rpk: Are you looking at post#15 ?
[16:22] <rpk> Every problem I have with it returns a launchpad bug listed as high priority, but still open
[16:22] <CoolCoder> DasEi: Its locked. dont know why, and i am the admin
[16:22] <CoolCoder> DasEi: ok ok
[16:22] <CoolCoder> sorry
[16:22] <NyvenZA> Skei: i also seem to have this problem
[16:22] <somethinginteres> Skei: do you have the hardware to run it?
[16:22] <ActionParsnip> koichirose: no, the issue is with firefox, so you need a firefox theme.If you keep to the context of the question, that would have been clear
[16:22] <NyvenZA> still looking for a solution
[16:22] <DasEi> CoolCoder: : :)
[16:23] <rpk> usr13: thats actually already been fixed by default, in 10.10 I believe
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: what video chip are you using?
[16:23] <Skei> somethinginteres, I assume so. i5, GTX 560, 8 GB RAM. It's a new box.
[16:23] <NyvenZA> nvidia 8300
[16:23] <Skei> NyvenZA, are you running under an older kernel for now, then ?
[16:23] <elxordi> hi, can someone help my with a graphics issue on my ubuntu 11.04?
[16:23] <rpk> (I've gone through like 5 different bug reports, and tried almost all of the suggestions for config hacks.  Newer reports for more recent versions just don't get replied to)
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> Skei: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[16:23] <nanovany> ya se pudo activar unity de nuevo!! :D graias
[16:23] <mtlife> where can i change gdm theme in ubuntu 11.04?
[16:23] <somethinginteres> Skei: hmm you should post in  #ayanta as well
[16:23] <usr13> rpk: How about post#9  ?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: install nvidia-current and it will be fine after a reboot
[16:24] <agonzalez> Hi everyone, I am here to find help with my NVIDIA GT330M, I installed the latest driver (270.46) now the X does not work
[16:24] <NyvenZA> Skei: I tried it, but then X didn't even start
[16:24] <Osmodivs> Why can't I upgrade to 11.04 from terminal? I am typing the right commands: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> agonzalez: try:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    andreboot
[16:24] <Osmodivs> Am i missig somethig?
[16:24] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: it is: sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: yes thats not the command
[16:24] <Osmodivs> Oh, thank you
[16:24] <Osmodivs> my bad
[16:24] <usr13> Osmodivs: sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:25] <NyvenZA> i  installed the nvidia 270.41.06 and also seem to have issues
[16:25] <agonzalez> i already tried that, the same thing happened with Ubuntu 10.10
[16:25] <spacebug-> is there a way to change the default keybindings for unity? (if they conflic with my own)
[16:25] <Osmodivs> usr13, They say that's NOT the right command
[16:25] <Skei> NyvenZA, those are the drivers I need, too.
[16:25] <usr13> Osmodivs: What command?
[16:25] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: then try: nvidia-173
[16:25] <Skei> ActionParsnip, NyvenZA, trying nvidia-current, will let you know.
[16:26] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: Actually I have a 7300 not 8300
[16:26] <varun> shane4ubuntu1:
[16:26] <Osmodivs> usr13, dist-upgrade, it's do-release-upgrade
[16:26] <katorz> hi. How can I do to have the Unity interface ?
[16:26] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: whre can I get that ?
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: try: sudo apt-get install nvidia-173    may help
[16:26] <DasEi> agonzalez: logout to terminal, try to run : sudo nvidia-xconfig, restart gdm (sudo service gdm restart)
[16:26] <NyvenZA> ok
[16:26] <elxordi> katorz: sudo apt-get install unity
[16:26] <lucas-arg> im having problems during boot... ubuntu 11.04 gives me some irq problem and then cap locks keeps blinking and ubuntu wont boot... i have to reboot 2-3 times to make it boot... what would be the problem?
[16:26] <katorz> elxordi: I'm on a live usb persistant
[16:26] <Osmodivs> E: Invalid operation do-release-upgrade
[16:27] <Osmodivs> What?!
[16:27] <Rigorm0rtis> Hello. I'm having some trouble with Thunderbird and Unity. I can't access the main menu for the application. Any know what's going on?
[16:27] <NyvenZA> ok dl'ing
[16:27] <Sylphid> Osmodivs, sudo apt-get install update-manager-core && sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | Osmodivs
[16:27] <gnychis> how can I enable Unity in the Preferences or Administration?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: instead of trying to guess, why not read the upgrade documentation
[16:27] <elxordi> katorz: which ubuntu version?
[16:27] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: how will I force that driver to be used?
[16:27] <ActionParsnip> NyvenZA: udev will make it so
[16:27] <katorz> elxordi: the 11.04
[16:27] <DasEi> lucas-arg: seems kernelpanic, check your bios setting an rebuild intramfs
[16:28] <usr13> rpk: Server may simply be flooded atm  This is probably not the best time...
[16:28] <lucas-arg> DasEi: what am i supposed to look in my bios? its all in defaults...
[16:28] <NyvenZA> so i must make sure it is corect there before reboot?
[16:28] <elxordi> katorz: on live, there's already the unity interface activated, if it doesn't show up, maybe the problem is that your graphic doesnt have the correct drivers on live
[16:28] <lucas-arg> DasEi: it was working all ok until last kernel upgrade
[16:28] <vibhav> anybody with any problem?
[16:28] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, I want to use the terminal to see what's happenning, otherwise I could just use the Update Manager GUI
[16:29] <rpk> usr13: Its only with non standard ppas, because the default ones come with signatures included. Its just ridiculous that this hasn't been fixed yet, and that people are just ignoring ubuntu forum posts about it
[16:29] <usr13> Osmodivs: Ok, well, they both prolly work still
[16:29] <elxordi> vibhav: me, graphic issue. Interested? :P
[16:29] <Monotoko> urm...whos Vera?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: there is the server method listed, use that
 Yeah
[16:29] <evilsushi> is there a alternative cd download for ubuntu 11.04?
[16:29] <DasEi> lucas-arg: make sure you can access grub's menu, and cd into boot and do : sudo updateinitramfs -u of your current kernel
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> !download
[16:29] <katorz> elxordi: I tried to install nvidia drivers but there's nothing
 Yes
[16:30] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: do you have update-manager-core installed?
[16:30] <Osmodivs> ActionParsnip, Server!? I do not have a server
[16:30] <evilsushi> does it offer the lvm encryption such as previous alternate installs?
[16:30] <mtlife> where can i change gdm theme in ubuntu 11.04?
 Whats your problem??
[16:30] <elxordi> vibhav: i've runned glxgears, and gives me good framerate, but graphics arent smoother. That's with latest Ati drivers. any ideas?
[16:30] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: ok, now I get a login screen at least
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: yes but the server method uses cli as that is all it has, no x server
[16:30] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: or ubuntu-standard
 lemme see
[16:30] <lucas-arg> DasEi: ive done it... sudo update-initramfs -u && sudo update-grub && sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[16:30] <DeadmanIncJS> is this a general chat for ubuntu or just for tech support type stuff
[16:30] <elxordi> katorz: if you install them live and you restart, the canges doesnt apply. You must install ubuntu on hard disk
[16:30] <oussama> list
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: sudo apt-get install update-manager-core; sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:31] <SoftTimur> Hello all, does anyone know how to tile windows under ubuntu 11.04? for instance, place a window on the left or right half of the screen...?
[16:31] <Pici> DeadmanIncJS: Just tech support. General chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:31] <elxordi> vibhav: i've googled for a while and found nothing :(
[16:31] <Skei> ActionParsnip, installing nvidia-current allowed me to boot into my new kernel. Thanks very much.
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Osmodivs: copied and pasted from: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NattyUpgrades
[16:31] <DeadmanIncJS> k, thanks buddy
[16:31] <usr13> DeadmanIncJS: Tech support.  General chat is on #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:31] <evilsushi> DeadmanIncJS: #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Skei: coolio
[16:31] <Skei> ActionParsnip, now I need to install the dev drivers instead, and see if it holds out :P
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> Skei: your call, gl
[16:31] <Skei> Also going to switch back to Classic Desktop, I think...
[16:31] <DasEi> lucas-arg:good aproch, maybe enable grub's beep and have a loonger timeout, so you can easy use an older kernel, case problem resists
[16:31] <rpk> Also, does anyone know if they fixed the ubi-partman installer bug?  My dad couldn't even install on x64 last night.
[16:31] <katorz> elxordi: but there's no driver
[16:32] <katorz> I can't try to instal them
[16:32] <Osmodivs> ChogyDan, I dunno, but I typed  apt-get install update-manager-core && sudo do-release-upgrade, but it is just upgrading Python 3.1
[16:32] <lucas-arg> DasEi: ill try downgrading the kernel then...
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rpk: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:32] <DasEi> lucas-arg:(/etc/default/grub)
[16:32] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  (/etc/default/grub) *
[16:32] <elxordi> katorz: what graphics device has your computer?
[16:32] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yep, also ran the test cd for defects from the cd itself
[16:32] <gmitrev> hi guys, anyone has any idea why my network applet is missing after the update?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rpk: and memory test?
[16:32] <lucas-arg> DasEi: all there is default also...
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/600825/
[16:32] <ChogyDan> Osmodivs: I dunno, pastebin?
[16:32] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah.
[16:33] <vibhav> whats your problem chadi?
[16:33] <rpk> Its great that they want to release every 6 months, but someone should really introduce them to the idea of tested configurations and blockers
[16:33] <dennda> Is it me or does unity totally fuck up with gvim?
[16:33] <katorz> elxordi: a 8400 gs nvidia card
[16:33] <ActionParsnip> rpk: in the livecd, update the gparted and ubiquity packaes from the repos, may help
[16:33] <arrow203> Good morning, I just did an online, inplace upgrade of 10.10 last night to 11.04.  Now, on first boot, I receive an error and it hangs - udevd-work[90]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v000010DEd000001D7sv00001179sd0000FF31bc03sc00i00' unexpected exit with status 0x0009
 WATCH YOUR LANGUAGE!
[16:33] <Renski> having an issue with my netbook which has ubuntu 10.10 installed on it. everytime I run ifconfig wlan0 down the entire machine locks up
[16:33] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  beep and longer timeout can make choosing other kernel easier,case ongoing panics
[16:33] <chadi> vibhav: I killed ubiquity, and restarted it; it's fine now - thank you for asking
[16:33] <dennda> vibhav: STOP SCREAMING!
[16:34] <lucas-arg> DasEi: weird bug
[16:34] <rpk> ActionParsnip: so boot into the livecd and try updating packages before running the installer?  i'll have him try that later tonight then
[16:34] <arrow203> my guess is there's some sort of driver issue due to the modprobe - forgive me, I'm not especially familiar with Linux... advice?
[16:34] <elxordi> vibhav: cool, i can understand now. anyway, with the 11:04 update, all system has not smooth graphics... either with radeon driver
[16:34] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  not occuring in my vm
[16:34] <elxordi> katorz: wait a second, please
 Ok
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> rpk: yeah it may solve bugs and such
[16:35] <elxordi> vibhav: so, if that happened to you, what would you do?
 Leave it as it is.....As i know the graphic capabilities of my card.
[16:36] <lucas-arg> DasEi: i installed a 64bits version of ubuntu and now i have a 32bits kernel instead???? how can i see what my ubuntu version is??
[16:36] <evilsushi> how hard is it going to be to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04?
[16:36] <elxordi> vibhav: well, that f*** me a little, because with previous ubuntu my card was great
[16:36] <compdoc> can be easy, but sometimes it blows up
 I recommend a fresh install
[16:36] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  ups, uname -a and lsb_release -a
[16:36] <dennda> Also there is some considerable lag in unity, e.g. in vim and terminal starts behaving laggish as well
[16:36] <evilsushi> yeah thats not an option
 ohh.
[16:36] <sipior> evilsushi: an upgrade is very straightforward.
[16:37] <rpk> ActionParsnip: There are open bugs for the exact issue, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/757720
[16:37] <dennda> but in vim it is not at all funny
[16:37] <Vhozard> is Landscape commercial ?
[16:37] <Pici> Vhozard: Yes.
 A liitle prob in the upgrade can screw the whole system
[16:37] <Vhozard> anything like it thats free ?
[16:37] <evilsushi> does 11.04 have a LTS?
[16:37] <vibhav> Hi Pici
[16:37] <arrow203> anyone?  re: modprobe crash above?
[16:37] <xangua> evilsushi: no
 no
[16:37] <Pici> evilsushi: No. 12.04 will be the next LTS
[16:37] <elxordi> katorz: tell me what happens, from the point you choose "Try ubuntu without install", until the point the desktop is loaded, please
[16:37] <vibhav> Hi Pici
[16:37] <DasEi> evilsushi: no, lucid is lts
[16:37] <evilsushi> every 2 years
[16:37] <rpk> How is that rated medium?  Its an install failure.  You can't even install ubuntu due to the error. :/
[16:37] <DasEi> !lts
[16:38] <Pici> dennda: I find unity to be not compatible with the way I work. You can still choose Classic Ubuntu from GDM.
[16:38] <lucas-arg> DasEi: it says i686... im sure i had 64bits installed...
[16:38] <Pici> vibhav: hi
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> rpk: maybe updates will help
[16:39] <Nastya> hi there!
[16:39] <The-Stinger> Updated 10.10 to 11.04. But now I don't have any sound in Minecraft.
[16:39] <fsvieira> hello, I just installed the last ubuntu, and I would like to install a session manager to choose betewn gnome and unity, I installed gnome and gdm but there is no choice in login...how can I solve this ?
[16:39] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  cat /proc/version another place to look
[16:39] <wizards> i install gnome3 but ... unity and gnome3 for me ist very similar  :( its devil dream
[16:40] <xangua> fsvieira: select 'classic' session
[16:40] <rpk> ActionParsnip: yeah.  Oh, and sorry about raging in general.  If it isn't obvious already, I develop software for a living, and I can't stand to see such poor QA in such a core open source project
[16:40] <DasEi> fsvieira: it's undeer the powerbutton > systemsettings > loginscreen
[16:40] <lucas-arg> DasEi: Linux version 2.6.38-8-generic (buildd@vernadsky) (gcc version 4.5.2 (Ubuntu/Linaro 4.5.2-8ubuntu3) ) #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> rpk: no worries dude :)
[16:40] <xangua> !gnome3 | wizards
[16:40] <wizards> :D nice bot :D
[16:40] <jdahm> can I create a dock "launcher" entry for applications that don't show up under "applications"?
[16:40] <katorz> elxordi: I have a x64 ubuntu. So nothing special, I just installed pidgin to chat. There was no boot screen (the one with my name). I landed directly on the desktop.
[16:40] <DasEi> lucas-arg :  32 then
[16:40] <gtklocker> lol
[16:41] <dennda> Pici: Yes, the thing is I want to use unity
[16:41] <lucas-arg> DasEi: weird... i might be confused... ill try installing -pae then
[16:41] <dennda> To get familiar with it
[16:41] <fsvieira> ok I will try
[16:41] <Pici> dennda: Good luck then :)
[16:41] <gtklocker> Unity is awesome
[16:41] <elxordi> katorz: and the desktop, i supose, is the default gnome desktop... isnt it?
[16:41] <NyvenZA> ok, now I am just get frustrated. i installed lightdm, and now I can get to the login screen. I can select sessions and I have tried classic, Classic (no effects) and ubuntu recovery and all of them boots Unity and I can't do see anything change in the X sessions..
[16:41] <katorz> elxordi: yes exactly
[16:41] <jacobson> Hey, I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 beta 2 before the release of the 11.04, and now i'm wondering if is there a way to upgrade from 11.04 beta2 to 11.04 stable
[16:41] <jacobson> thank
[16:41] <jacobson> s
[16:42] <NyvenZA> I can click on an icon and drag it, but the icons stats on the screen
[16:42] <incog> how would you fags feel if i told you i can crash all ubuntu versions, including natty with a remote string
[16:42] <NyvenZA> if i restart the session, the icon has moved to where i dragged it too
[16:42] <elxordi> katorz: have you considered intalling it? maybe from the live doesnt let you to install any nvidia drivers knowing you must reboot
[16:42] <Atluxity_> mighty impressed incog
[16:42] <gtklocker> https://twitter.com/#!/gtklocker/status/63692581170716672 Ubuntu custom kernel compilation (my article)
[16:42] <compdoc> jacobson, I would think apt-get would see the released version as a new update
[16:42] <incog> not really, apt is just that bad
 Do it! and send me the string
[16:42] <adelie42> I am using gnome-shell. When I search for applications, specific applications are listed. How do I add an app (custom script) to that index?
[16:43] <adelie42> tried putting it in /bin and restarted session, but that didn't help
[16:44] <Atluxity_> I have a bug with my newly upgraded ubuntu. I started xchat, unmaximised it, right click, sendt to workspace 4. Now my xchat has no minimize button or close cross or unmaximize button at the top :\
[16:44] <gmitrev> hi guys, anyone has any idea why my network applet is missing after the update? It connects just fine but there is no indicator applet for it?
[16:44] <vibhav> do it incog
[16:44] <katorz> elxordi: yes but I did a live usb persistant to test unity because I have to install graphic drivers and to reboot. Impossible without a live usb persistant.
[16:44] <karlo> what is command for logout ?
[16:45] <jdahm> I have some applications that aren't installed through apt that I would like to inclue in my dock on unity.  Can I add them?  How do I add them?
[16:45] <elxordi> katorz: maybe a better way to test that is with virtualbox
[16:45] <katorz> elxordi: I prefer to wait several days to upgrade to the 11.04 version.
[16:45] <DasEi> karlo: depends, out of gdm ? or logout from what ?
[16:45] <elxordi> katorz: i agree with you. i've updated right now and i'm kinda f**** lol
[16:46] <katorz> elxordi: yes, the last solution... did you install th 11.04?
[16:46] <karlo> from computer
[16:46] <vibhav> any body with a problem??
[16:46] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: make a launcher for it then drag the launcher to the dock
[16:46] <DasEi> karlo: logout or exit or ctrl-D
[16:46] <gmitrev> anyone has any idea why my network applet is missing after the update? It connects just fine but there is no indicator applet for it?
[16:46] <katorz> elxordi: what's the problem with your ubuntu ?
[16:46] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: how do you make a launcher?
[16:47] <adelie42> ActionParsnip: How do you make a launcher in gnome-shell?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: use alacarte or right click desktop
[16:47] <adelie42> ActionParsnip: Or unity for that matter?
[16:47] <karlo> DasEi, not working, I tryed that in past :/
[16:47] <elxordi> katorz: well, everything works. But graphics performance doesnt work much great. Not smooth.
[16:47] <Younder> Yes, seems safe mode works. But with the NVidea proprietary driver .nothing works. Not entirely sure it it is just me and that I have the right diagnosis yet..
[16:47] <DasEi> karlo: you want to shutdown from commandline ?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> adelie42: same method, use alacarte
[16:47] <lacrymology> how do I find out what video drivers am I using?
[16:47] <lacrymology> and how do I change my screen resolution?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> lacrymology: sudo lshw -C display
[16:48] <karlo> DasEi, no, I wanna logout user from ubuntu
[16:48] <DasEi> karlo: sudo shutdown -h now, or sudo service gdm stop to just get to the commandline
[16:48] <cablop> hello
[16:48] <cablop> i need a suggestion in a software to detect Wireless Networks and the channel they're using, not kismet, kismet is more than what i need, i just need to know, available networks, channels in use and signal strenght, just to help in choosing the wireless channel of a wlan
[16:48] <The-Stinger> dont have any sound in Minecrafter after updating 11.04. Anyone know a sollution?
[16:48] <adelie42> ActionParsnip: THANK YOU!!!!
[16:48] <DasEi> karlo: sudo logout >userHere>
[16:48] <karlo> DasEi, tnx
[16:48] <Sylphid> cablop, iwlist
  refer to http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-network-manager-applet-missing-from-notification-area-in-ubuntu-10-04.html
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> cablop: sudo iwlist scan     will show all that
[16:48] <lacrymology> ActionParsnip: driver=nvidia means I'm using the propietary driver, right?
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> lacrymology: yes
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> lacrymology: the open drivers are nv and nouveau
[16:49] <cablop> let me try
[16:49] <NyvenZA> ok, I want to try and remove unity totally and see if I can can info X properly
[16:49] <NyvenZA> what woul be the best way to remove unity?
[16:49] <cablop> Sylphid, ActionParsnip will i lost wlan connectivity with that command?
[16:49] <Sylphid> cablop, nope
[16:49] <katorz> elxordi: In my mind, I'll wait at least a month before to install it lol. Thank you for your help. ;-)
[16:50] <elxordi> katorz: You're welcome. I'm sorry i couldn't help you much more. But i hate graphic drivers on ubuntu lol
[16:50] <cablop> Sylphid, ActionParsnip thanks a lot
[16:51] <katorz> lol
[16:51] <lacrymology> good, then, how do I change the resolution? when I open System/Preferences/Monitors it complains that "it appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool. Do you want to use your graphics vendor's tool instead?" and if I click 'yes' I don't find anything to change the resolution
[16:51] <cablop> is there any gui for that? i can use this, but barely i can ask others to use CLI
[16:51] <lacrymology> oh wait
[16:51] <lacrymology> found it
[16:52] <elxordi> my graphics arent smooth with ubuntu 11.04, and they where on 10.10, with ATI latest driver. Why's that???
[16:52] <areay> just upgraded to natty, but i have no unity -- my desktop hasn't changed at all
[16:52] <Kouta-kun>  i upgraded to natty and my install broke so much i'm switching distros
[16:52] <Doonz> hey guys im using rsync to copy data from one raid array to the other. When i run rsync a 2nd time it retransfers all the files. how do i make rsync stop doing that
[16:52] <Doonz> im just using the -vr options
[16:52] <chadi> I highly dislike unity. It's not even optimized for touch screens! Can I not use it?
[16:52] <DirtyDawg> Kouta-kun: to which distro?
[16:52] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: ok I added it in alacarte
[16:52] <elxordi> areay: try intalling it with sudo apt-get install unity
[16:53] <cablop> any GUI tool able to scan Wireless Networks giving me signal strenght, channel in use, and the like? (iwscan is ok for me, but...)
[16:53] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: it's still not in the applications menu in unity
[16:53] <chadi> areay: video drivers
[16:53] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas or do I have to search the log?
 "Wifi Radar" in Ubuntu Software Center
[16:53] <areay> chadi: afaik my video drivers are installed and working correctly. i didn't get a message to say unity wouldn't work
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: when you run it, right click the app and select "Keep in launcher"
[16:54] <cablop> vibhav: giving it a look
 GL
[16:54] <spungo> is there a mini iso for 11.04 available? I can only find 10.10
[16:54] <oussama> there a CD iso
 on cd and dvd iso
[16:55] <oussama> about 650 Mo
[16:55] <areay> chadi: also pressing alt+f2 and running unity produces something but it's totally unusable
[16:55] <areay> and i have to hide my gnome panel to see it
[16:55] <venik> cannot upgrade to 11.04-- "Could not calculate the upgrade"...
[16:55] <qkit> hi guys, wonder what package i needed to install so i can connect to my windows xp share folder?
[16:55] <yuskhanzab> hello all. need help here how to undo the "complete lock panel" in ubuntu after updating to natty?
[16:56] <venik> this bug has been there for 5 years...
[16:56] <elxordi> qkit: samba packages
[16:56] <venik> AMD64
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> venik: do you have "ubuntu-desktop" package installed/
[16:56] <jen> helo ?
[16:56] <venik> it worked fine on another machine (32 bit)
[16:56] <elxordi> qkit: and then, on nautilus, press ctrl+l and write smb://
[16:56] <venik> I removed Ubuntu-desktop
[16:57] <chadi> areay: then I am sorry, I do not know
[16:57] <venik> made no difference
[16:57] <perlsyntax> Has anyone have prob with install ubuntu 11.04?And seem like it take longer then ubuntu 10.10 not sure why.
[16:57] <Liiin> umash and chmod works in the same manner?
[16:57] <yuskhanzab> hello all. need help here how to undo the "complete lock panel" in ubuntu after updating to natty?
[16:57] <ChogyDan> venik: please don't use enter as punctuation
[16:57] <Liiin> *umask
[16:57] <areay> i just upgraded to natty and i don't have an option to use unity. pressing alt+f2 and running unity brings up an unusable unity, i can see menus but they do nothing
[16:57] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas?
[16:57] <elxordi> areay: another option is ckeck if unity is activated on compiz settings
[16:57] <calrik> well my ubuntu 110.04 just finished downloading and upgrading, just about to reboot wish me luck there are no hiccup
[16:58] <spungo> Found it >> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
 tried?
[16:58] <areay> elxordi: i don't appear to have a unity plugin in compiz. is there a package for that?
[16:58] <cablop> vibhav: thanks, i think it is good enough, we can go iwlist when wanted more detail :)
[16:58] <perlsyntax> calrik,How ong does it tke to install it?
[16:58] <qkit> thanks guys
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> venik: that's why then, you need the metapackage to be able to update
 your graphic card must not be supporting it, but you can install its 2d version.
[16:59] <elxordi> yeah, but is dependency with unity package, so if it's installed, the option must be on compiz settings
[16:59] <greylurk> Ah, Unity is much better with the up-to date Nvidia drivers.
[16:59] <areay> vibhav, i've heard others reporting that they see a message that tells them unity is unsupported. i have seen nothing like this
[16:59] <elxordi> areay: yeah, but is dependency with unity package, so if it's installed, the option must be on compiz settings
[16:59] <venik> I removed the ubuntu-desktop AFTER the upgrade failed, because someone suggested that it might help
 what does your error say?
[17:00] <BinaryMan> is there something wrong with all of the 64-bit natty iso images?
[17:00] <venik> perhaps I should reinstall ubuntu-desktop (and face Mecca)
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> venik: i see, i believe it's needed so the updater knows what is going on
[17:00] <areay> vibhav, i get no error at all. i have no option to use unity as an interface. also running unity inside of gnome produces ugly results
[17:00] <BinaryMan> i've tried the same image from two different mirrors, burned it with two different machines, and the CD dies when trying to load the initrd
[17:01] <venik> it cannot be the explanation, since in all my first attempts the ubuntu-desktop was there
[17:01] <greylurk> BinaryMan I installed from Natty 64 bit image last night.  Worked ok, except for some partionioning confusion.
[17:01] <elxordi> my graphics arent smooth with ubuntu 11.04, and they where on 10.10, with ATI latest driver. anyone can help me to solve it?
[17:01] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: seems to not work for this app
[17:01] <areay> elxordi, unity is installed, but searching for 'unity' in compizconfig returns no results
[17:01] <BinaryMan> i can't get it to _boot)
[17:01] <BinaryMan> *_boot_
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> jdahm: strange
[17:01] <BinaryMan> i even had another guy burn the image with his computer.
[17:01] <jdahm> ActionParsnip: when I click on the icon I made, it pulses for a second and then nothing shows up and it stops pulsing
[17:01] <ChogyDan> venik: wait, do you have ubuntu-desktop?  and did you try to login with unity?
[17:01] <venik> I upgraded for the past 4 or 5 versions, with no need for clean installation, but now I probably reached the end of the line
[17:02] <exfileme> ugg ubuntu reminds me of windows 95
 post me a screenshot of that....
[17:02] <NyvenZA> how can I see all the versions of the nvidia drivers that are installed?
[17:02] <NyvenZA> is ther an apt-get command for that?
[17:02] <mikebeecham> guys, how do I access the 11.04 grub menu from bootup?
[17:02] <jdahm> exfileme: umm? how so?
[17:02] <venik> the upgrade never finished-- I got the error message mentioned above (COuld not calculate the upgrade)
[17:02] <SeRVeR01> hello there , when i play any game under wine  can't get rid of the top title bar any ideas  ? thanks
[17:02] <ChogyDan> venik: try installing ubuntu-desktop
[17:02] <elxordi> areay: wait, please, i'll check
[17:03] <Skei> ActionParsnip, got it working now, thank you.
[17:03] <exfileme> i upgraded to the new version and all of a sudden the Nvidia driver don't want to work. Strangely enough, the new update works better on the experimental 3D drivers save for that the icons dont appear in the Launcher bar
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> Skei: no worries :)
[17:03] <schweegi> how can i install the CalDav integration in evolution on ubuntu 11.04?
[17:03] <xangua> mikebeecham: keep Shift pressed when booting
[17:03] <mikebeecham> xangua: thx
[17:04] <perlsyntax> i hope ubuntu work good with android:)
[17:04] <exfileme> anyone else having problems with 11.04?
[17:04] <TheCynic> no problems at all exfileme
[17:04] <spungo> exfileme: everyone :P
[17:05] <larstorben> exfileme no
[17:05] <exfileme> spungo: thanks
[17:05] <perlsyntax> exfileme,whaat type of probs?
[17:05] <areay> vibhav, http://img848.imageshack.us/i/screenshotevv.png/
[17:05] <z0mbyk1d> hey, how do i restart inetd?
[17:05] <Skei> Does anyone know about integrated graphics support on 11.04 for a 1155 chip ?
[17:05] <z0mbyk1d>  1430 ?        Ss     0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd
[17:05] <venik> doing it now, although with little hope, since that is how I started
[17:05] <areay> vibhav, i've set the top panel to auto-hide
[17:06] <exfileme> anyone having better luck with the experimental drivers and Unity over Nvidia drivers?
[17:06] <elxordi> areay: i couldn't find the package to fix that. If it can help, i have it under the Desktop section on compiz settings manager
[17:06] <dios_mio> /topic #
[17:06] <spungo> looks like unity is about as welcome as a fart in a space suit.
[17:06] <elxordi> my graphics arent smooth with ubuntu 11.04, and they where on 10.10, with ATI latest driver. anyone can help me to solve it?
[17:06] <mikebeecham> guys...for some reason all I am seeing in additional drivers of 11.04 is (driver activated, but not currently in use). How can I resolve this?
[17:06] <tom__> x
[17:06] <areay> elxordi, nope, it's not in there :(
[17:07] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: which driver?
[17:07] <Janusman> Just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 (I'm on WUBI) however, uname -r says I'm still using an older kernel... how do I use the new one?
[17:07] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: hi mate! (version current)
[17:07] <Janusman> (also, on boot time the boot menu didn't show the new kernel)
[17:07] <larstorben> Janusman: reinstall it.
[17:07] <venik> Installing ubuntu-desktopo installs a lot of useless junk, like Empathy and Telepathy, etc., but I shall swallow it
[17:07] <elxordi> areay: maybe some package is missing. i'll give you a list of unity packages that i have installed, wait please
[17:07] <ActionParsnip> Janusman: try:  sudo update-grub    do you see the new kernel listed/
[17:07] <Janusman> larstorben: you mean, instead of upgrading I should reinstall everything? =)
[17:08] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: hi  :)
[17:08] <larstorben> yes Janusman: that would be good :)
[17:08] <larstorben> do you use gnome or kde
[17:08] <areay> elxordi, it seems that's not my only problem. my sources.list is for maverick even though i've never had maverick installed. i upgraded from lucid to natty
[17:08] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: yeah, I'm using the recommended proprietary drivers
[17:09] <Janusman> ActionParsnip: yes, in fact it was there before running sudo update-grub, it's there after. I'll reboot and see if it shows.
[17:09] <Janusman> thanks
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> Janusman: np man
[17:09] <larstorben> np
[17:09] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: yeah, I have the same issue.  Not sure if it is accurate though.  It looks like 'nvidia' driver is the one in use
[17:09] <cablop> well guys
[17:09] <cablop> another question
[17:10] <elxordi> areay: :S people recommend to update to next inmediate version.... would you like my sources.list?
[17:10] <areay> elxordi, yes please, ty
[17:10] <cablop> compared to 10.10 is 10.04 much better or just a few  improvements?
[17:10] <dd214> how do I find a file by Wildcard search from a terminal command?
[17:10] <cablop> i mean 11.04
[17:10] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: yeah, but I have no hardware acceleration, which means I cannot use compiz etc
[17:10] <vagvaf> hello people, do u know how can i set universal hot keys?
[17:10] <velcroshooz> areay, probably part of your problem. you cant skip versions unless its lts to lts - you should have upgraded to 10.10 then 11.04
[17:10] <elxordi> areay: wait ;)
[17:10] <ayecee> cablop: it's an incremental change as always.
[17:10] <davidshen84> hi, i just got 11.04 desktop install. it seems the compiz package is not installed by defualt?
[17:10] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: what driver is being used according to this?  sudo lshw -C video
[17:10] <greylurk> cablop lots of changes... Unity is definitly something to get used ot.
[17:11] <cdavis> Anyone know where I can download a .deb of shc for natty?
[17:11] <Theoretician> Is Ubuntu 11.04 stable enough to run?
[17:11] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: sec
[17:11] <ayecee> Theoretician: yes
[17:11] <greylurk> Theoretician I only installed it last night, but it seems to work fine, on a fresh install
[17:11] <cablop> mmm unity by default? then better i keep in 10.10 for a while... i disliked unity because it had a unable to hide bar at the left
[17:11] <davidshen84> hi, can anyone tell me how to zoom the desktop? like in 10.04
[17:11] <areay> velcroshooz, i just used the update manager. it doesn't give an option to choose which release to upgrade to
[17:11] <eiriksvin> can somone tell me why Ubuntu cant find my nVIDIA card?
 try "unity --reset"
[17:11] <NyvenZA> not to shoot it down, But I have been having massive graphics issues
[17:12] <eiriksvin> i cant update to natty becuase of it
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> cablop: you can boot to a traditional desktop if you want....default means nothing
[17:12] <greylurk> cablop the left bar autohides
[17:12] <elxordi> areay: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600848/
[17:12] <Theoretician> Are there any downsides to upgrading?
[17:12] <mikebeecham> ChogyDan: does not tell me driver...only gfx card
[17:12] <elxordi> areay: tell me if it works for you ;)
[17:12] <NyvenZA> eiriksvin: don't know, but I have same problem
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: do you have one of those switchable video chips?
[17:12] <eiriksvin> Natty is cool, but just switch to classic mode... the new gui is unstable
[17:13] <greylurk> Theoretician You'll need to build new muscle memory in terms of where things are, and how to use the window manager.
[17:13] <ChogyDan> mikebeecham: is there a "configuration" line?
[17:13] <mikebeecham> sorry ChogyDan: Driver=Nvidia
[17:13] <eiriksvin> yeah it says i cant even use it
[17:13] <Theoretician> eiriksvin the new gui is bad? why?
[17:13] <cablop> i just liked the bar was like the win7 taskbar
[17:13] <elxordi> areay: also, try with "update-manager -d" on the terminal before. let's see if it offers you the possibility to update
[17:13] <perlsyntax> i shock they din't upgrade perl in ubuntu.
[17:13] <areay> vibhav, unknown option: --reset
[17:13] <areay> i think i broke ubuntu lol
[17:13] <areay> now do-release-upgrade is upgrading me to natty. even though i'm already theoretically using it
[17:13] <eiriksvin> bars dissappear and stuff
[17:13] <greylurk> perlsyntax i'm surprised that Natty still includes Eclipse Ganymede.
[17:14] <elxordi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600848/
[17:14] <areay> elxordi, it seems that update-manager is working. i'm gonna let it finish. ty for your help:)
[17:14] <cablop> i disliked i cannot configure two panels as clasic one on top and below and move their items
[17:14] <juzzy__> hey, ive updated to 11.04 - how may I place a my old weather widget dock thing onto the upper bar again??
[17:14] <ChogyDan> cablop: use classic
[17:14] <juzzy__> there is not context menu
[17:14] <elxordi> areay: you're welcome :) good luck!
[17:14] <zombor> hi, are the live cd's supposed to be working with intel i3+H61 machines?
[17:14] <perlsyntax> greylurk,Is that the newer one?
[17:15] <eiriksvin> is there a way to update my nVIDIA driver?
[17:15] <greylurk> perlsyntax no, the newest is Helios.
[17:15] <aetaric> hey updated to 11.04 and my nvidia driver updated with it, it says it's activated but not currently in use.
[17:15] <cablop> sigh, i'll like the apps left bar with the classic panels and so on xD
[17:15] <cablop> in fact i just want the left bar from unity :P
[17:15] <cablop> any sound or video issues?
[17:15] <venik> why does it take forever on WAITING FOR HEADERS?
[17:16] <eiriksvin> cablop>its a bit buggy still, give it a month or so
[17:16] <cablop> that crappy pulseaudio becomes just noise and cracks and bleeps after a while, but alsa cannot deal tih my mic
[17:16] <NyvenZA> so far most complains seem to be NVida and Unity related
[17:16] <greylurk> cablop Mine installed just fine with an NVidia Card and onboard sound on an ECS motherboard ( don't have the specs handy right now )
[17:16] <cablop> *with
[17:16] <cablop> mmm i see
[17:16] <e01> hello
[17:16] <exfileme> i like the unity interface, I just wish the icons  would appear and the bar would hide like it's supposed to.
[17:17] <cablop> afaik the cracky crappy sund it is an issue related to laptops netbooks
[17:17] <aetaric> mine is just not playing nice
[17:17] <jMCg> Hey folks.
[17:17] <greylurk> cablop it sounds like people are having trouble with upgrades on NVidia hardware though.
[17:17] <eiriksvin> we installed Natty on my Moms comp, and it updated nvidia fine, and it did it all on its own, but mine says i have no driver
[17:17] <e01> how can i add partitions to be automounted in natty, because in current installer, there is no option to using custom locations for mounting
[17:17] <cablop> when the kernel uses some event instead of time management in order to save battery
[17:17]  * NyvenZA is trying Nvidia drivers direclty from Nvidia now
[17:17] <NyvenZA> busy installing
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:17] <cablop> i always used nvidia drivers in ubuntu
[17:18] <cablop> i mean
[17:18] <greylurk> eiriksvin were you upgrading yours or was it a fresh install?
[17:18] <jMCg> I'm having trouble grasping exactly what stuff is put in /usr/lib and what is put in /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu -- and why. -- Can someone point me to a possible explanation?
[17:18] <cablop> original drivers
[17:18] <cablop> :P
[17:18] <exfileme> i couldnt get drivers downloaded from nvidia to install :(
[17:18] <eiriksvin> upgrading
[17:18] <venik> boot in 10 seconds... waiting for heareds-- eternity
[17:18] <eiriksvin> trying xconfig
[17:18] <cablop> ubuntu is free but its main focus is be usable rather than OSS
[17:18] <TheHackOps> Hey guys
[17:19] <JoshDreamland> Hey all; increment the number of people that are so dissatisfied with Unity as to throw their computer out the window, for me
[17:19] <Skei> Anyone know much about 1155 graphics cards under Natty ?
[17:19] <eiriksvin> eiriksvin@ubuntu:~$ sudo nvidia-xconfig
[17:19] <eiriksvin> [sudo] password for eiriksvin:
[17:19] <eiriksvin> sudo: nvidia-xconfig: command not found
[17:19] <eiriksvin> eiriksvin@ubuntu:~$
[17:19] <TheHackOps> cablop, Which is why it works better that most other distros
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> cablop: I just use what gets the job done. I don't care if its OSS or not
[17:19] <eiriksvin> wee
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> eiriksvin: then install the nvidia driver from the repo
[17:19] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, What are you trying to do?
[17:19] <JoshDreamland> Can someone direct me as to finding the Appearance preferences?
[17:19] <abhishek> hi guy's
[17:19] <cablop> ActionParsnip: same here :)
[17:19] <eiriksvin> how?
[17:19] <JoshDreamland> Or any preferences at all, really?
[17:19] <TheHackOps> JoshDreamland, pm me
[17:19] <arand> JoshDreamland: Shutdown button
[17:19] <cablop> wait
[17:19] <cablop> i want the answer of finding prefs too
[17:20] <TheHackOps> arand, no trolling
[17:20] <aetaric> eiriksvin, system > administration > additional drivers
[17:20] <mikebeecham> Hi...can anyone advise on why 11.04 proprietary drivers are "activate, but not in use"?
[17:20] <eiriksvin> thank you
[17:20] <arand> TheHackOps: Same to you sir.
[17:20] <greylurk> JoshDreamland in unity prefs is under the applications.
[17:20] <TheHackOps> cablop, USC > ccsm
[17:20] <aetaric> mikebeecham, nvidia?
[17:20] <mikebeecham> aetaric: yessir
[17:20] <cablop> mikebeecham: license terms, meaning you as a person actively enable them
[17:20] <aetaric> mikebeecham, having the same issue
[17:20] <mikebeecham> cablop: how?
[17:20]  * NyvenZA want to break something 
[17:20] <MnCC> how do i get compiz working again ?
[17:21] <NyvenZA> still no luck with these damn drivers
[17:21] <JoshDreamland> I miss GNOME so bad it aches. I had to launch pidgin from a terminal
[17:21] <cablop> if thinks are like 10.10 just ticking the active checkbox
[17:21] <TheHackOps> to many people on tonight who to help first
[17:21] <TheHackOps> gahh
[17:21] <wrinkliez> is there a way to change the default ubuntu  lense? when i bring up the dash, for example, i dont even use email so could i change it?
[17:21] <mikebeecham> cablop: where is the checkbox?
[17:21] <eiriksvin> ok, downloading and installing recommended driver
[17:21] <mikebeecham> there is no active checkbox in 'Additional Drivers'
[17:21] <cablop> let me check mikebeecham
[17:21] <arand> JoshDreamland: cablop: TheHackOps: System settings are in the shutdown menu.
[17:21] <mikebeecham> cablop: would appreciate it...thanks
[17:21] <greylurk> JoshDreamland I kind of like typing to find my programs... it feels like im in a CLI again.
[17:21] <Janusman> ActionParsnip: I'm finding I have to manually edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg to have the new kernel in the boot menu... hoping that works (again; I'm using wubi)
[17:22] <TheHackOps> whats the offtopic channel again
[17:22] <TheHackOps> i need to rant about unity
[17:22] <cablop> why system settings in the shutdown menu????
[17:22] <MnCC> did they remove gnome ? .. that would prob explain why compiz isnt working
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> greylurk: no, it feels like windows 7
[17:22] <MnCC> *ielg*
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> Thank you, arand
[17:22] <greylurk> JoshDreamland wouldn't know... i don't use Windows 7.
 many of us do
[17:22] <vibhav> any problems anyone?
[17:22] <WLU> randomly my laptop freezes the screen with horizontal lines and nothing can be done except a hard reboot. This is been occurring  with 9.04, 9.10, and now 10.04. The laptop is X61T lenovo tablet with GMA 950 I don't know it it a video card problem or something else, any help is greatly appreciated
[17:22] <TheHackOps> JoshDreamland, Don't mention that
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> unfortunately, none of those preferences are "Show all of my programs"
[17:22] <cablop> MnCC yup it seems unity uses its own windowmanager, not the compiz one
[17:22] <TheHackOps> just revert back to 10.10 like i did
[17:22] <TheHackOps> all good
[17:22] <JoshDreamland> I feel like I'm suffocating.
[17:23] <abhishek> any body help me to upgrade my ubuntu 10.10
[17:23] <cablop> mikebeecham: afaik you get somehow to the additional drivers panel
[17:23] <TheHackOps> Lulz
 I ca nhelp
[17:23] <aperson> does xargs work with bash functions?  I'm trying send the output of xargs to a function, but it's not working
 I can help
[17:23] <eiriksvin> im just gonna use classic mode, no need to revert back:)
[17:23] <MnCC> cablop, i can use compiz .. with the --replace option .. but how do i make that stick permanently ?
[17:23] <JoshDreamland> Whoever thought this panel to the side with six programs in it was useful was obviously a mac user
[17:23] <cablop> mikebeecham: then select the one you want to enable and click on the activate button, it will disable the free one and enable the restricted driver
[17:23] <aetaric> cablop, accept the is no check box in that
[17:23] <NyvenZA> ok, I uninstalled UNITY, I uninstalled ALL the NVIDIA drivers, I then downloaded the latest NVDIA drivers from NVIDIA direclty. I rebooted and lightDM comes up. I can login, bit only the icons on the desktop are displayed, i can't interactect with them or do anyting else. No window manger loads...
[17:23] <eiriksvin> Natty classic mode is clean as a whistle
[17:23] <TheHackOps> how do i pm someone in irc again i forgot
[17:23] <aetaric> cablop, and it doesn't enable it
[17:23] <dotlegend> i am trying to copy data from a home folder (suse os) how can i properly take ownership and copy data to new external drive??
[17:23] <arand> aperson: Full command and desired outcome? (pastebin if necessary)
[17:23] <cablop> no checkbox, sorry, was confused
[17:23] <NyvenZA> It looks like the Xorg is the problem not unity
[17:23] <gartral> WLU: have you tryed switching VTs>X with alt-f6/alt-f7?
[17:23] <TheHackOps> how do i pm someone in irc again i forgot
[17:24] <cablop> afaik, if you use nvidia you will have a long way to go
[17:24] <mikebeecham> cablop: Yes, normally this would be the case, but I've downloaded, installed and booted usinf the nvidia drivers, but I am being told they are activated, but not in use!!
[17:24] <gartral> TheHackOps: /msg nick words
[17:24] <JoshDreamland> how can I trade unity back for GNOME?
[17:24] <cablop> for 10.04 and 10.10 you need to delete nuveau drivers first, then install the nvidia ones
[17:24] <ScottONanski> I'm using Unity with the Nvidia proprietary 270. drivers.
[17:24] <MnCC> anyone know how i can make the compiz --replace permanent ?
[17:24] <TheHackOps> nono start a private chat
[17:24] <ScottONanski> Works great.
[17:24] <mikebeecham> cablop: no you dont!
logout and choose gnome old
[17:24] <dotlegend> classic
[17:24] <JoshDreamland> thanks, dotlegend
[17:24]  * aetaric wonders if hacking up some x11 will solve his issues
[17:24] <gartral> JoshDreamland: logout, select name, theres a little dropdown that should read "ubuntu" change it too "ubuntu classic"
[17:24] <greylurk> How do I install Oracle Java?
[17:25] <arand> TheHackOps: You should avoid /msg ing people in this chat anyways.
 go to ur login screen, at the bottom choose Classic Mode as ur session
[17:25] <xangua> !java | greylurk
[17:25] <cablop> MnCC not sure, but try installing the CompizFusionIcon, and change settings from there, it'll change the settings for you
[17:25] <eiriksvin> doh, he beat me to it
[17:25] <TheHackOps> arand, going to help the people i know a solution to bcz its busy hour at the moment
[17:25] <mvdir> I am getting the following error trying to install from a ppa in ec2: "Unable to connect to ppa.launchpad.net:http:"
[17:25] <rauchy> Hey guys. If I've been running 11.04 beta, and ran 'apt-get upgrade', am I actually running the release?
[17:25] <MnCC> cablop, im on it =)
[17:25] <arand> TheHackOps: Then please do so in this channel so that everyone can chip in.
[17:25] <greylurk> Oracle java isn't showing up in Natty though.
[17:25] <cablop> mikebeecham: i did that in 10.10 to enable the nvidia drivers, i removed many nouveau content
[17:26] <abhishek> hello vibhav are u there
[17:26] <TheHackOps> Ok
[17:26] <TheHackOps> Sure
[17:26] <xangua>  because ppa.launchpad.net:http: is not a ppa raunchy
[17:26] <gartral> rauchy: yes! welcome too the stable
[17:26] <eiriksvin> and he even had it "right" it is called Ubuntu Classic
[17:26] <TheHackOps> its hard to see whats going on the chat is running so fast
[17:26] <WLU> gartal: No I have not what does this do?
[17:26] <TheHackOps> but ok what ever
[17:26] <cablop> because a broken reference in somepackage makes nouveau lanch and then you cannot use the nvidia drivers
[17:26] <JoshDreamland> I feel so invaded ;_;
[17:26] <xangua> !enter | TheHackOps and please don't make it worse ;)
[17:26] <arand> TheHackOps: Unless you ask and they confirm that you want a pm, of course.
[17:26]  * NyvenZA is ready to start sobbing
[17:26] <eiriksvin> heh
[17:26] <gartral> TheHackOps: ues /lastlog TheHackOps
[17:26] <rauchy> gartral: thanks. but I didn't get any "Newer version of Ubuntu" notification, which I'm used to from previous releases.
[17:26] <cablop> greylurk, enable all repos, then try again
[17:26] <TheHackOps> I have a solution to the nvidia, go to there website and download the linux drivers they work fine
 Yes iam there
[17:26] <arnab> hi - my ubuntu doesn't show any higher resolution than 1024x768 - i am running ubuntu in virtualbox. can i get a better resolution?
[17:27] <gartral> rauchy: yea, the put those on the chopping block
[17:27]  * vibhav is ready to help
[17:27] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: I just tried it and it doesn't work for me
[17:27] <MnCC> btw .. my update to 11.04 wrecked: fingerprint reader, compiz, virtualbox, xbmc, shutdown/reboot from gui  .. lots of work todo
[17:27] <abhishek> so, plz help me about upgrade
[17:27] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Error?
[17:27] <ScottONanski> TheHackOps: That's what I'm using. Downloaded, and installed them this morning.
[17:27]  * eiriksvin says brb got a turtle head poking out... :D
[17:27] <cablop> TheHackOps: yes, that solves the nvidia thing, but with a cost, each time you upgrade your kernel they recomplie something and your old kernels won't work for gui
[17:27] <ScottONanski> Didn
[17:27] <CQ> arnab- my ubuntu guests resize as I resize the window, with the guest additions isntalled
[17:27] <rauchy> gartral: ok, off I go to enjoy my new 11.04 :-D
[17:27] <rauchy> gartral: thanks
[17:27] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: nope, no errors that is why I am ready to cry
[17:27] <JoshDreamland> My God, even the scroll bars are unusable
[17:27] <NyvenZA> lol
[17:27] <NyvenZA> I can login
[17:27] <vibhav> abhishek you want to upgrade to 11.04 or 10.10?
[17:27] <ScottONanski> Didn't even remove the old drivers. lol
[17:27] <arnab> god.. you're right CQ! thanks
[17:28] <JoshDreamland> How do I get my old scroll bars back?
[17:28] <NyvenZA> I selected classic, noeffects , safemode
[17:28] <NyvenZA> all of them
[17:28] <NyvenZA> I get to the desktop
[17:28] <NyvenZA> the icons are there
[17:28] <JoshDreamland> You know, the ones that did more than just indicate where I am
[17:28] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, What problems is it causing, cablop, thats what happens when the kernal updates all the time...
[17:28] <NyvenZA> But I can't interact with the desktop
[17:28] <gartral> MnCC: the virtualbox ptoblem is probably because the kernel drivers didn't get recompiled..
[17:28] <arnab> so is there any way to get the classic menus back?
[17:28] <riba> hh
[17:28] <mikebeecham> Hi...can anyone advise on why 11.04 proprietary drivers are "activate, but not in use"?
[17:28] <riba> e
[17:28] <cablop> for everyone, i suggest you to install the classic gnome desktop, then tweak it until compiz and drivers are working properly
[17:28] <lgp171188> Hi, I am using Natty. I find that even when I am connected to the internet, my me menu status set to available, still there is no textbox in the me menu to post. What is the issue?
[17:29] <cablop> then move to unity and make it works
[17:29] <dotlegend> i am trying to copy data from a home folder (suse os) how can i properly take ownership and copy data to new external drive??
[17:29] <Guest32828> hello
[17:29] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Does not sound like a display driver issue, did you update the kernel or something?
[17:29] <JoshDreamland> Now the thing died. I'm so angry about this new release, I could kill someone. Or go write an angry blog.
[17:29] <Guest32828> awdplawpdoa
[17:29] <Guest32828> wdawd
[17:29] <Guest32828> awd
[17:29] <ScottONanski> mikebeecham: Download and install the proprietaries from Nvidia's site.
[17:29] <ScottONanski> They work much better.
[17:29] <TheHackOps> ScottONanski, he did
[17:29] <CQ> arnab: log out, and then after you select yout username onteh login page, look atht e bottom of the screen and select ubuntu classic
[17:29] <zombor> hello, im trying to install ubuntu, and i get the bootloader, but when i select "install" i just get a blank screen. im trying to install it on an intel i3 H61 machine, anyone know how to get it to work?
[17:29] <cablop> Nyvenza do that, move to classic gnome and deal with it until compiz works
[17:29] <xangua> lgp171188: did you add a twitter account to gwibber¿¿
[17:29] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: ok, I tried to update the vboxdrv earlier and it comaplined that the worng version of the header files are installed
[17:29] <arnab> thanks!
[17:29] <MnCC> gartral, in my case i had no source/headers/generic files .. after downloading i was able to recompile
[17:29] <xangua> i think gwibber now uses lens, not sure lgp171188
[17:30] <cablop> Nyvenza not all headers are installed by default
[17:30] <lgp171188> xangua: Yes. I have twitter, facebook and identi.ca accounts added. In fact I get notifications for all those accounts
[17:30] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Ok, then did it crash after that
[17:30] <TheHackOps> or stop working
[17:30] <JoshDreamland> I can't scroll. I can't see where my cursor is. This release is fucking drowning. Good bye.
[17:30] <aetaric> so i need to uninstall the opensource nvidia drivers?
[17:30] <NyvenZA> cablop: how do I change to the classic gnom?
[17:30] <mikebeecham> ScottONanski: are they different from the one that came with 11.04?  And is that an easy install?
[17:30] <floop_> hi all
[17:30] <cablop> aetaric i suggest you to install the proprietary ones
[17:30] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: I have had no craches
[17:30] <ScottONanski> Yes, mike.
[17:30] <TheHackOps> Who the hell idea was unity anyway, its a bad idea
[17:30] <aetaric> cablop, they already are
[17:31] <ScottONanski> mike. pm me. and bring a pen.
[17:31] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, I mean is that when it stoped working
[17:31] <cablop> Nyvenza afaik sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[17:31] <mikebeecham> ScottONanski: will do"
[17:31] <NyvenZA> I just can't believe that they relieased it with so many issues
[17:31] <abhishek> hello  vaibhav
[17:31] <arand> zombor: If you press F6 and remove "quiet splash" from the boot line, does it display any instersting errors?
[17:31] <NyvenZA> Xorg and Virtual box stoped workign uppon upgrading to 11.04
[17:31] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, Im confused are you on clasic or unity
[17:31] <arand> zombor: Alternatively, does the alternate install CD work better?
[17:31] <NyvenZA> currently on the default unity
[17:31] <TheHackOps> kk
[17:31] <cablop> the best time was when they launched 6.06, they do a good work to release something with no errors
[17:32] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: want to try and go back to classic now
[17:32] <TheHackOps> try what cablop said
[17:32] <NyvenZA> to see if that works
[17:32] <zombor> arand: let me try your first suggestion
[17:32] <zombor> arand: i havent tried the alternate install
[17:32] <spungo> NyvenZA: got the latest vbox?
[17:32] <cablop> after that ubuntu seems to be, try, and deal with it until you got used to what WE believe it is good for you
[17:32] <TheHackOps> NyvenZA, sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop
[17:32] <DasEi> NyvenZA: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27668927/gnome
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: don't use it then
[17:32] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, What?
[17:32] <spungo> NyvenZA: 4.0.6 iirc
[17:32] <nit-wit> complain somewhere else please
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: you can use classic desktop if you dislike unity
[17:32] <gartral> TheHackOps: unity is... "fun" <grumble>
[17:33] <floop_> nvidia drivers on ion2 not working :( Asus vx6
[17:33] <zombor> arand: without quiet boot, a bunch of stuff scrolls by, then i get a blank screen
[17:33] <NyvenZA> DasEi: what was that ?
[17:33] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Im not using it, i just love to help out the community and this seems to be the biggest problem among new people
[17:33] <cablop> but, besides ranting, my suggestion is this to solve all unity and nvidia and compiz issues
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> floop_: install nvidia-current and reboot, failing that, install nvidia-173    and reboot
[17:33] <TheHackOps> and old timers aswell
[17:33] <eiriksvin> brb restarting
[17:33] <NyvenZA> spungo: I am rebooting system all the time can't use something else right now
[17:33] <TheHackOps> k
[17:33] <Kevin147> I upgraded yesterday, and now my desktop is saying the following: "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions."
[17:33] <DasEi> NyvenZA: a link on howto switch back to gnome
[17:33] <MnCC> compiz-fusion didnt do the trick ..
[17:33] <xinel> eh my dad seems to like unity, and if ubuntu wants more desktop users i think it was a good move imo
[17:33] <NyvenZA> cablop: I get  "e: unable to locate package gnome-desktop"
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: I don't see an issue personally
[17:34] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Problem?
[17:34] <cablop> install the classic gnome, you already know it, then configure compiz, drivers and so on until they work, then when everything is working fine move to unity
[17:34] <Younder> Hmm seems  the video controller and PCI controller both use irq 16 no wonder it fails.. (11.04 failed to start window manager correctly, nvidea card seemed the culprit)
[17:34] <NyvenZA> DasEi: what format is it. the file name was just gnome
[17:34] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Where not meant to talk about that in here, it hogs the channel
[17:34] <jaymeskeller> Hi, I have a problem with g15daemon under 11.04. When I attempt to start it up, it hangs, telling me that it couldn't find "/dev/input/uinput". I have attempted to use "/dev/uinput/", but it hangs. Any ideas, or just file a big report?
[17:34] <feisar> man... I'm having no luck with 11.04, the upgrade screwed up my system and now a fresh install is stuck in an error loop
[17:34] <jaymeskeller> *bug
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: mind you, I use a lot of LXDE these days
[17:34] <MnCC> TheHackOps, yeah .. cant get compiz to work
[17:34] <DasEi> NyvenZA: ic, second, changing it
[17:34] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Specificaly what won't work
[17:34] <NyvenZA> ActionParsnip: the 173 nvidia had the exact same results
[17:34] <tarunno> Hello guys
[17:34] <arand> zombor: Hmm, I guess the kernel work, but possibly it stumbles when it initialises video drivers or something, I don't know then I'm afraid, you may want to try the alternate install CD, or look up your particular computer model and video card model and see if there are known issues there..
[17:34] <BinaryMan> feisar: better luck than me. i can't get a livecd environment from the burned iso.
[17:34] <tarunno> happy release to all
[17:35] <tarunno> I have a question
[17:35] <cablop> give me a second about enabling the old gnome desktop
[17:35] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Or just compiz won't work at all
[17:35] <DasEi> NyvenZA: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27668927/gnome.txt
[17:35] <aperson> arand⍈ sorry, rsibreak made me take a break: http://pastie.org/1847785
[17:35] <feisar> BinaryMan: that's not good to hear
[17:35] <MnCC> TheHackOps, it doesnt work
[17:35] <zombor> arand: im just using the built in video of the processor
[17:35] <tarunno> I read the Cannonicals official blog earlier
[17:35] <Kevin147> Can anyone help me?
[17:35] <TheHackOps> MnCC, 11.04 i assume?
[17:35] <TheHackOps> Kevin147, Shoot
[17:35] <aperson> arand⍈ that's an example, though what xargs is doing doesn't matter too much, it's the fact that it's not recognizing the function
[17:35] <DasEi> !details | Kevin147
[17:35] <tarunno> they said there won't be any netbook version in 11.04
[17:35] <Kevin147> I did already....:
[17:36] <Kevin147> I upgraded yesterday, and now my desktop is saying the following: "Minimal BASH-like line editing is supported. For the first word, TAB lists possible command completions. Anywhere else TAB lists possible device or file completions."
[17:36] <tarunno> but I can see a torrent file for 11.04 in Ubuntu site
[17:36] <MnCC> TheHackOps, yeah .. when i use --replace the window manager .. voila .. but dont know how to make that stick permanently
[17:36] <tarunno> why is that?
[17:36] <NyvenZA> DasEi: I can't get into the GUI,  I installed LightDM and on the login screen I see the option for classic. It goed the same problem
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: i don't see how the two are linked
[17:36] <TheHackOps> MnCC, how are you making changes
[17:37] <abhishek> hello dear any one help me to upgarde my ubntu 10.10 in 11.04
[17:37] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, which two?
[17:37] <aperson> arand⍈ I'd guess it's because xargs uses a separate shell?
[17:37] <TheHackOps> MnCC, For compiz i use ccsm (found in software center) then open term and type sudo ccsm
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> !upgrade | abhishek
[17:37] <DasEi> NyvenZA: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm && sudo service gdm start
[17:37] <SpaceBass> has anyone tried to compile x264 on 11.04? keeps failing on my server install
[17:37] <TheHackOps> MnCC, sudoer seems to work
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: the lack of netbook and the torrent you can download ubuntu with
[17:37] <cablop> to open the classic gnome i think this wpuld be the guide http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-04-natty-login-to-classic-gnome-2-desktop
[17:37] <dd214> anyone use a CAC?
[17:37] <MnCC> TheHackOps, used compiz settings manager
[17:37] <aperson> !anyone | dd214
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> dd214: what is CAC?
[17:37] <gartral> dd214: CAC?
[17:37] <dd214> Having trouble finding my CAC reader
[17:38] <charlie_> hi, i have a question about xubuntu, an easy one i guess.
[17:38] <aperson> !ask charlie_
[17:38] <gartral> charlie_: then ask!
[17:38] <charlie_> thx
[17:38] <maximm> anyone get unity running on two monitors ?
[17:38] <aperson> gah
[17:38] <cablop> in fact i tried unity in 10.10 and classic gnome, and, classic gnome saves the more space for you on a netbook screen, unity waste space.... ironically (at least in 10.10)
[17:38] <TheHackOps> MnCC, go into terminal and type sudo ccsm
[17:38] <aperson> !ask | charlie_
[17:38] <dd214> ActionParsnip, CAC = Common Access Card
[17:38] <NyvenZA> oooooo
[17:38] <NyvenZA> something happend
[17:38] <NyvenZA> I used unity --replace
[17:38] <DasEi> NyvenZA: so ?
[17:39] <TheHackOps> MnCC, go into terminal and type sudo ccsm
[17:39] <charlie_> i just installes xubuntu 11.04 everything ok but xubuntu automatically mounts my windows volume on my desk
[17:39] <NyvenZA> gave a lot of test on the screen and the X start didn't work
[17:39] <arand> aperson: Hmm...
[17:39] <NyvenZA> I CTRL + C the unity--replace
[17:39] <MnCC> TheHackOps, no go =(
[17:39] <NyvenZA> and then when I went back to X
[17:39] <TheHackOps> there should be a huge WARNING DO NOT UPGRADE
[17:39] <NyvenZA> the icons I clicked on had opned apps
[17:39] <TheHackOps> May cause loss of sleep
[17:39] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, in this page it shows a torrent file for downloading "ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso" http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[17:39] <aperson> arand⍈ got a better way I can read lines from a file and run that function per line?
[17:39] <NyvenZA> and I can iinteract witht he icons on the desktop now
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: ccsm with sudo isn't a good idea
[17:39] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, which seems like a deadlink
[17:40] <cablop> Nyvenza check this one http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-04-natty-login-to-classic-gnome-2-desktop
[17:40] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Fixed my flash Uber lag
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: I always use: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/release/
[17:40] <DasEi> !yay | NyvenZA:
[17:40] <timrc> anyone with a tp experiencing weirdness with the battery indicator?  the indicator reports the correct time remaining but shows the battery as a red outline (which I thought was to indicate power is getting low)
[17:40] <jaymeskeller> Hi, I'm having problems with g5daemon under 11.04. It hangs with the error "/dev/input/uinput cannot be found". I tried to fix it by changing the setting to "/dev/uinput" but no go. Any ideas?
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: sudo isn't to be used with GUI apps, use gksudo
[17:40] <TheHackOps> If you know what your doing its a rly good idea
[17:40] <jaymeskeller> *g15
[17:40] <timrc> er forgot to mention I'm running 11.04
[17:40] <Macer> anybody know where i can find ubuntu documentation on setting up coda?
[17:40] <einseenai> guys, if i upgrade to 11.04, will it brake my classic gnome?
[17:40] <NyvenZA> I don't currently have a window manger running but i can now atleast interact
[17:40] <dd214> I'm slowly going through dmesg to find CAC, but no luck
[17:40] <cablop> einseenai, afaik... yes
[17:40] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, I use the mirror hosted in my country
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: sudo will run it as root, which won't change the users settings, it will change root
[17:40] <DasEi> Macer: look in the forum
[17:40] <cuppsy> On a fresh install of 11.04, Empathy disconnects from Windows Live every hour or so when inactive. Anyone have any idea why that would happen?
[17:40] <Kevin147> alright what ever, no one is gonna help me -_- thanks anyway
[17:40] <Dr_Willis> jaymeskeller:  i noticed some of my USB  devices not working/seen untill i unplug/plug them back in. :(
[17:40] <NyvenZA> ok,so now it is not a driver issue anymore, but it looks like an unity issue
[17:40] <Macer> DasEi: tried. dont see much
[17:40] <NyvenZA> gnome here i come
[17:40] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Well you learn something new every day
[17:41] <Macer> i was hoping for a wiki
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: I use torrents, much faster and allows you to give back to the community
[17:41] <arand> aperson: I think the end result of that is «« scmd say bash -c "screen -p 0 -S minecraft -X eval 'stuff \"$*\"\015'" »» Which I guess is not what you are after really?
[17:41] <aperson> !patience | Kevin`
[17:41] <charlie_> i dont want xubuntu to put windows volumes on my desk at startup. How can i fix it?
[17:41] <timrc> einseenai, you should be able to select "classic mode" when you login
[17:41] <aperson> arand⍈ it is, I'm sure of that
[17:41] <MnCC> TheHackOps, tried gksu .. but still no luck ..
[17:41] <einseenai> cablop, thx
[17:41] <DasEi> Macer: I don't have experience with it, also #ubuntu-server or #httpd might be places to ask
[17:41] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Wierd with gksudo mine got reset and won't stick anymore lulz
[17:41] <aperson> arand⍈ that function is just a base for a bunch of other commands, it works fine
[17:42] <Macer> httpd?
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> charlie_:  i think thats handled by the xubuntus file manager.   But it may be an all or nothing 'show icons of not' setting.  theres #xubuntu you can ask
[17:42] <Macer> for coda? :)
[17:42] <DasEi> Macer: server-related channel
[17:42] <A_J> Hey all, i want to Upgrade to Natty, i have a question : I have a Hard copy of Ubuntu:Linux 10.04 LTS Version, will I be able to reffer it, cause it's brand new. and i could not find any books on 10.10, so i presume i won't find anything on natty
[17:42] <cablop> einseenai recommendation was for me to wait at least one month before tryin to upgrade
[17:42] <arand> aperson: I guess you could just use "for i in file.list; do somethingwith "$i"; done"
[17:42] <Macer> i guess coda would be a good fs to use for httpd
[17:42] <Asad2005> alltray doesnot work with firefox in natty any help ?
[17:42] <NyvenZA> cablop: I don't have menus to click on, this doesn't really help
[17:42] <Macer> ok thx
[17:42] <TheHackOps> I got a problem i need help with while im here, Anyone know about fixing the epic fullscreen lag with flash
[17:42] <JonMarkGo> Hi all, I was upgrading to 11.04 and it asked me to reboot to complete the update. I rebooted and now I get "Kernel panic - Unable to mount root fs"
[17:42] <Dr_Willis> Asad2005:  the icontray thing i think has basically been removed.. i dont think alltray would work at all
[17:43] <cablop> Nyvenza, they replaced the menu for a button with all on it
[17:43] <wad> Yay, I got my 11.4 installed and running! Using it now. But.... where is the SYSTEM | PREFERENCES menu?
[17:43] <MnCC> TheHackOps, going for a reboot
[17:43] <charlie_> join #xubuntu
[17:43] <cablop> check the guide i gave you to get the old menus back
[17:43] <ChogyDan1> mikebeecham: even though I have the same issue as you, glxgears works.  So I think my card is working  *shrug*
[17:43] <TheHackOps> MnCC, Go for it
[17:43] <cablop> NyvenZA: check the guide i gave you to get the old menus back
[17:43] <tarunno> ActionParsnip, I download the ISO from mirror and then share that in our local tracker to BitTorrent it ;)
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> wad under the power button at top right.. for some reason
[17:43] <wad> Dr_Willis, There they are, thanks!
[17:43] <NyvenZA> cablop: I tried it, I can't get the classic to display on login
[17:43] <MnCC> TheHackOps, prob. wont do shit in my experience with ubuntu.. but it seems to help with windows
[17:43] <einseenai> timrc, thx, i know, but is this classic mode the same that gnome in 10.10?
[17:43] <Asad2005> Dr_Willis: but it is already working with other apps i tried it with calculator app ok
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: same sort of deal
[17:43] <Dr_Willis> Im still not sure of the logic of putting that menu item under the Power button..
[17:43] <cablop> ok, then let me check it NyvenZA
[17:43] <A_J> any1 ?
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> tarunno: using torrents in the first instance means less faff
[17:44] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:44] <A_J> Hey all, i want to Upgrade to Natty, i have a question : I have a  Hard copy of Ubuntu:Linux 10.04 LTS Version, will I be able to  reffer it, cause it's brand new. and i could not find any books on  10.10, so i presume i won't find anything on natty
[17:44] <DasEi> !ask | A_J
[17:44] <Asad2005> i am in classic not unity
[17:44] <TheHackOps> Yep
[17:44] <aperson> arand⍈ I suppose, I was trying to avoid cat'ing the file :)
[17:44] <cablop> NyvenZA: it should be there, in the login called ubuntu classic
[17:44] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of the file,edit,view appear in nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:44] <A_J> DasEi: check now ?
[17:44] <rcmaehl> After about 3 clean reinstalls of 11.04 and hundreds of updates it appears MOST of the bugs are out of 11.04
[17:44] <einseenai> cablop, thx a lot -)
[17:44] <arand> aperson: Hmm, with the one you used, you may want to enclose the bash string in $() to extract the result of running that command
[17:45] <aperson> arand⍈ yep, I know ;) thanks
[17:45] <NyvenZA> cablop:  the option is there. i select it, i login and then i get stuck
[17:45] <NyvenZA> I can't interact with the desktop
[17:45] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Does your flash lag in fullscreen on things like youtube
[17:45] <DasEi>  A_J: you can use the updatemanager, and won't need lucid's cd then, just internet
[17:45] <asddfsasd> hello, if i upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10 will i lose my software, will it become incompatible?
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> rcmaehl: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs  says 329 bugs in Natty
[17:45] <asddfsasd> i already see bookmarks and data will remain but what about software?
[17:45] <Skei> Silly question, but, is there some equivalent of the Device Manager ? I'm not sure my second video card is being detected and failing, or not being detected at all.
[17:45] <TheHackOps> asddfsasd, Don't do it
[17:45] <rcmaehl> ActionParsnip: cimpare that to ysterday
[17:45] <MnCC> TheHackOps, well that didnt do shit ..
[17:46] <mateobur> Hello all
[17:46] <TheHackOps> asddfsasd, If you had to ask that the problems will become endless
[17:46] <A_J> umm, DasEi u got it wrong
[17:46] <mateobur> I'm having a lot of problems with the repositories in 11.04
[17:46] <DasEi>  A_J: rephrase please
[17:46] <asddfsasd> why? TheHackOps i didn't get your answer :s
[17:46] <mateobur> a lot of indexes aren't found, so a lot of packages are not present
[17:46] <A_J> DasEi: i wanted to know if i can use a 10.04 LT Book for refrence to Natty
[17:46] <cablop> ok Nyvenza, but you are in the classic gnome, the one you know and you can fix it, then, try alt+f1 to reach the menu, or alt+f2 to run apps and run ccsm
[17:46] <DasEi> mateobur: use synaptics to find best mirror
[17:46] <mateobur> i.e. Err http://ppa.launchpad.net natty/main amd64 Packages
[17:46] <mateobur>   404  Not Found
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: its fine here on my Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS  as well as my desktop system on Nvidia 6150 onboard
[17:46] <TheHackOps> asddfsasd, Beacuse it really buggy and if you don't know about ubuntu that mich don't try it yet
[17:47] <mah454> Hello ...
[17:47] <cablop> NyvenZA: alternatively you can install compiz fusion icon to select default windows manager and so on
[17:47] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Im plauged then
[17:47] <mah454> I downloaded ubuntu-11.04
[17:47] <kcin1>  is there skype for arm?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: are you running 64bit OS?
[17:47] <A_J> !ask mah454
[17:47] <TheHackOps> kcin1, arm?
[17:47] <mah454> why ubuntu switch to ubity desktop ?
[17:47] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Yea
[17:47] <kcin1> TheHackOps:armel
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> mah454: you can use classic desktop if you wish
[17:47]  * rcmaehl has about 300-ish shortcut keys to remap
[17:47] <asddfsasd> TheHackOps, ah i see then well thanks for te answer
[17:47] <DasEi>  A_J: ah, yes quite far, but natty comes with unity and some software is gone btw. changed, but that's still a good refrence, why not stay on lucid ?
[17:47] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: tried 64bit flash?
[17:47] <A_J> !ask | mah454
[17:47] <cannonball> Quick question, is there an easy during the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 to keep Gnome instead of being switched to Unity?  Or is that just a decision that's made for you?
[17:47] <NyvenZA> ok, once, I get unity killed off , i can interact with the desktop
[17:47] <A_J> DasEi: well ?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: check on the skype site
[17:48] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, yea i used a script to get that sandbox thing or whatver it is
[17:48] <rcmaehl> cannonball: gnome is still there i think
[17:48] <Nyromith> Hello. I didn't like unity and want to migrate to xubuntu (several computers). Is there a possibility that Canonical will drop the support for xubuntu because it's not popular?
[17:48] <TheHackOps> the beta 3 .so plugin
[17:48] <cablop> cannonball, before login reselect ubuntu classic in login menu
[17:48] <TheHackOps> for firefox
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: there is a ppa with 64bit flash on the omgubuntu site
[17:48] <abhishek> can i restore my ubuntu in previous day
[17:48] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, How well does it work?
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: its the smae file for ALL browsers, not just firefox
[17:48] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of the file,edit,view appear in nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: works fine here
[17:48] <cannonball> cablop: you're talking about after a successful upgrade. That sounds easy enough, thanks.
[17:48] <kcin1> ActionParsnip:only i386 64
[17:48] <DasEi> Nyromith: not planned, netbook will disappear
[17:48] <A_J> Hey all, i want to Upgrade to Natty, i have a question : I have a  Hard copy of Ubuntu:Linux 10.04 LTS Version, will I be able to  reffer it, cause it's brand new. and i could not find any books on  10.10, so i presume i won't find anything on natty
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: then no, its only for those
[17:49] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, brb ill try it now
[17:49] <mah454> ubottu where i can ask question for this ?
[17:49] <cablop> netbook are not going to dissapear
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: skype is proprietary so you will only get it if skype make it
[17:49] <A_J> ActionParsnip: please have a ;ppl
[17:49] <A_J> look*
[17:49] <dotlegend> i am trying to copy data from a home folder (suse os) how can i properly take ownership and copy data to new external drive??
[17:49] <kcin1> ActionParsnip: but maemo has a package
[17:49] <kcin1> for
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> kcin1: then try using it in some way
[17:49] <kcin1> forarm
[17:49] <Jot> Hi! I have experienced very annoying problem. Ubuntu 11.04 does not recognize my monitor. As result, I can't set proper resolution and refresh rate -.- I have tried everything I found on Internet. I'm not gonna give up but it's second day since I have been using new ubuntu and still I can't set basic things.
[17:49] <kcin1> ok
[17:49] <eigba> Hello all
[17:49] <damicita> can natty 32 vercion be install on a 64 bit computer ?
[17:49] <maximm> anyone able to get unity to run on two monitors ?
[17:49] <A_J> ActionParsnip: please have a look at my question
[17:49] <rcmaehl> Jot: have you tried xrandr
[17:50] <dryicebomb> damicita: yes
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> A_J: what does "reffer" mean?
[17:50] <Jot> I'm not sure
[17:50] <Xylch> I have ubuntu installed on half of my hard drive, the other half is a blank partition. I wanna know if it's possible to install a fresh copy of 11.04 onto my my blank partition from within ubuntu (My CD Drive is broken and my laptop doesn't support USB boot).
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> maximm:  i keep hearing it has issues..
[17:50] <rcmaehl> Jot: open terminal sudo xrandr 00auto
[17:50] <rcmaehl> ><
[17:50] <cablop> Nyromith: afaik xubuntu didn't have the support that gnome orkade had, so... i suggest you to use classic ubuntu instead, it is gnome, but gnome works so nice in a netbook
[17:50] <chadi> can I enable multitouch in natty on the classic theme?
[17:50] <rcmaehl> Jot: open terminal sudo xrandr --auto
[17:50] <A_J> refer*, typo
[17:50] <A_J> sorry
[17:50] <damicita> ok thank you
[17:50] <wad> hmmm... went to the compiz preferences, and enabled the desktop cube, and enabled OpenGL, and then all the window borders vanished. I can't move windows around anymore.... ideas?
[17:50] <kcin1> ActionParsnip:thanks,i just thought there would be a package on ubuntu ports
[17:50] <calrik> maximm: I have but its not that great
[17:50] <cablop> Nyromith: well at least in Atom netbooks, dunno in arm or eee
[17:50] <rcmaehl> wad: it disabled the unity plugin
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> Nyromith:  it seems Lubuntu just 11.04 got released also. It works niocely on netbooks as well.
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you can boot to it to help fix things, if thats what you mean....
[17:51] <eigba> How is everyone liking unity? I like the overal layout however it's going to take a lot of modifying for me
[17:51] <maximm> not liking it much
[17:51] <wad> rcmaehl, ah, thanks. I reenabled it... still now window happiness.
[17:51] <mateobur> could someone please share a working sources.list for 11.04 with me using pastebin?
[17:51] <chadi> eigba: I don't like it, going back to classic
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> eigba: its ok
[17:51] <eigba> I perfoer gnome 3 for sure
[17:51] <rcmaehl> wad: restart x
[17:51] <A_J> ActionParsnip: i'm, basically using the book to learn funtions of ubuntu, so incase i upgrade.. will that become obsolete
[17:51] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: the question was if a lucid manaual will still fit for natty, I already answered it
[17:51] <wad> rcmaehl, okay, thanks!
[17:51] <calrik> it sucks for multiple monitors
[17:51] <maximm> yeah i need to switch to gnome 3
[17:52] <DasEi>  A_J: ah, yes quite far, but natty comes with unity and some software is gone btw. changed, but that's still a good refrence, why not stay on lucid ?
[17:52] <Atluxity> eigba, I like it. Especially when I read myself up on the hotkeys
[17:52] <A_J> DasEi: what about CLI ?
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: oh i see
[17:52] <A_J> DasEi: is that the same
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> A_J: they will be pretty much the same
[17:52] <craigbass1976> Anyone know how to shrink the size of thunderbird's font in the thread (I think that's what it's called) pane?  I can shrink it in the actual messages, but not there or in the mail folders pane
[17:52] <calrik> single monitor it isnt bad
[17:52] <rcmaehl> eigba: it's ok but I recommend setting the unity shortcut key to ctrl+super
[17:52] <rcmaehl> instead of just super
[17:52] <cablop> Nyromith: I'm running Ubuntu 10.10 on a Compaq Mini netbook with compiz enabled and classic interface, able o launch a Virtualbox with Windows XP on it and using the whole hard drive encrypted, performance is nice
[17:52] <aperson> arand⍈ hmm.. if I $(cat $SPATH/motd) it runs on every word of the file, but if I quote it "$(cat $SPATH/motd)" it only runs on the first line
[17:52] <eigba> Im defantly having fun tinkering with it, Not sure if its something im gonna keep though
[17:53] <Jot> rcmaehl: I typed your cmd in terminal and now it's spammed with things like -display -help -o etc
[17:53] <A_J> ok thankyou DasEi and ActionParsnip , one last thing is the updater stable, or is they needed to take a back-up..
[17:53] <greylurk> exit
[17:53] <DasEi>  A_J: yes, basically, as said some soft has changed, for info look up chanelog natty, there is a bunch on the net, or simply stay with lucid and test natty in a vm for now
[17:53] <rcmaehl> Jot: a gui terminal or a tty terminal?
[17:53] <Jot> gui one
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you should have a backup ANYWAY
[17:53] <Dr_Willis> aperson:  bash is expanding the variables once vs twice i think
[17:53] <Chilaquiles> Hey, Does someone knows how to make the bar appear on the bottom of the file,edit,view appear in nautilus? it doesn't appear anymore, Im talking about the bar where the arrow to go back and the other arrow appear
[17:54] <rcmaehl> Jot: aare you sure you typed "sudo xrandr --auto"
[17:54] <rcmaehl> ?
[17:54] <rcmaehl> minus the quotes
[17:54] <Jot> yep
[17:54] <A_J> ActionParsnip: gonna be a tad difficult considering i have 3tb running.. anyway is it likeley to fail by personal experince ?
[17:54] <eigba> I wonder if they plan on putting gnome 3 in the repos? probably not?
[17:54] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, its in the view menu
[17:54] <DasEi>  A_J: hard to predict, some people have trouble, the majority obvoiusly not, or the channel would be overcrowded from it
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> !fonts
[17:54] <arand> aperson: I'm not sure I know much more than you how to fix it at this point, I'm afraid..
[17:54] <kcin1> are there other repositories for ports apart from ports.ubuntu.com?
[17:54] <NyvenZA> what is the apt-get command to list for instance all the compiz packages that can be installed?
[17:54] <cablop> Chilaquiles dunno, maybe we don't have that issue, anyway try looking in the menus to see if you disable it by mistake or something
[17:54] <aperson> Dr_Willis⍈ hmm.. I just want to pass this function every line of this file as an argument
[17:54] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: I don't see anything in the view menu
[17:54] <aperson> arand⍈ thanks for the help
[17:54] <Jot> I would copy the text from terminal but it's impossible or I'm doing something terribly wrong
[17:55] <xangua> !gnome3 | eigba
[17:55] <A_J> ok thankyou ActionParsnip  and DasEi, will try
[17:55] <Jordan_U> aperson: You are misunderstanding. In the quoted case the entire file is being run as a sigle "command" (with no arguments, just treated as a file path)
[17:55] <Chilaquiles> cablop: I already did
[17:55] <A_J> !virualbox
[17:55] <DasEi>  A_J: ask if trouble
[17:55] <Browser> Hello
[17:55] <A_J> !virtualbox
[17:55] <rcmaehl> Ubuntu 11.04 definitely takes getting used to
[17:55] <lgp171188> Hi, I have gwibber accounts configured and working, memenu status is set to available but still there is no textbox to broadcast the status message. Any ways to get it working?
[17:55] <hanazuki_> how do i get raido tray working in ubuntu natty ?
[17:55] <A_J> yes DasEi ty
[17:55] <DasEi> :)
[17:55] <Browser> The server natty are off?
[17:55] <scorch2> i am insatlling 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 10min.  any ideas?
[17:55] <cablop> Chilaquiles: here it is called main toolbar, click it
[17:55] <rcmaehl> hanazuki_: radio tray?
[17:55] <Sree_> Hello all. Recent ubuntu user - a beginner here. I messed up installing Ubuntu on dell 610m laptop. The vista it came with it is gone and my wife wants it back with vista on it. Could somebody please help? I have the reinstallation DVD from Dell available...Thanks in advance
[17:55] <cablop> Chilaquiles: View > Main Toolbar check it
[17:55] <eigba> I think people comming from mac will enjoy 11.04 lol
[17:55] <Jot> rcmaehl: I typed 00 instead of ---
[17:55] <Ahmuck> i need help with unity
[17:55] <DasEi> Browser: natty is released, and can be d/l 'ed
[17:56] <Chilaquiles> cablop: It's already checked
[17:56] <rcmaehl> Jot: oh
[17:56] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, Downloading from the ppa since the deb package didn't work
[17:56] <hanazuki_> rcmaehl,  yes i upgraded from 10.10 to natty but now it wont start
[17:56] <rcmaehl> Jot: its' only 2 -
[17:56] <calrik> I really dont like the fact cant right click desktop to enable better desktop effects any more
[17:56] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, its the location bar
[17:56] <Ahmuck> how do you modify the top and side bar?
[17:56] <Jot> now it says it failed to get size of gamma
[17:56] <Ahmuck> preferences
[17:56] <rcmaehl> hanazuki_: was it removed in the update?
[17:56] <A_J> Sree_: use a partion manager, wipe the HDD clean, considering you have no data, and then install Vista
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> A_J: what if a drive motor fails, where is your data?
[17:56] <DasEi> !download | Browser
[17:56] <Browser> no DasEi
[17:56] <A_J> ActionParsnip: good Point..
[17:56] <cablop> Chilaquiles: try reloading window manager or logging off then in again... but it is a weird issue
[17:56] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: They are all checked
[17:56] <scorch2> i am insatlling 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 10min.  any ideas?
[17:56] <hanazuki_> rcmaehl,  oehh i cant confirm that
[17:56] <Ahmuck> i also need to change the resolution for the monitor, but can't find a resolution changer anywhere
[17:56] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈  http://pastie.org/1847865 is the relevant parts of the script
[17:56] <mastertogo> in Unity, is it possible to mouse in to other workspaces? e.g. when the mouse touches a screen edge, move into the next workspace in that direction?
[17:56] <eigba> Nothing wrong with a new desktop enviroment comming out, however they should put gnome 3 on the repo also
[17:57] <TheHackOps> A_J, in your head
[17:57] <Chilaquiles> cablop: I restarted Ubuntu and it didin't work
[17:57] <cablop> and i agree
[17:57] <A_J> ActionParsnip: i really don't understand how how to back up so much data, without going into Raid 0
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  under the 'power button' theres a menu item
[17:57] <hanazuki_> rcmaehl,  it says its installed
[17:57] <arand> Sree_: For reinstalling windows, see ##windows, but it's presumably just a matter of booting the CD...
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  dont ask me why they put it there.
[17:57] <Chilaquiles> cablop: I even Reinstalled nautilus
[17:57] <Browser> I cannot update the repository in Natty: I write: sudo apt-get update ...
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> A_J: you will be paying thosands for professional and non-garunteed data retrieval, contrast with a couple hundrd for some USB storages....
[17:57] <Sree_> A_J: Could you please help me on how to get the partition manager onto the machine with ubuntu?
[17:57] <xgt001> hey any1 getting good battery backup in natty?
[17:57] <cablop> MAc people would like new ubuntu's .... anyway mac users got used for OTHERS to decided what's the best for them
[17:57] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, try setting them off and then back on
[17:57] <Ahmuck> is there a way to make unity double wide?
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> A_J: raid 0 isn't needed, raid 0 gives spped, not capacity
[17:57] <A_J> Sree_: have you installed ubuntu and it is working ?
[17:57] <A_J> ActionParsnip: raid 1 my mistake
[17:57] <ceo> am have install wine and am need run ms office 2007
[17:57] <TheHackOps> Sree_, Search gpart in the software center
[17:58] <DasEi> Browser: ic, open synaptics, use find fastest server
[17:58] <Goliath> hey i just installed ubuntu. any must packages to get?
[17:58] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: nothing...
[17:58] <Nuge> Is it possible to force a recursive wget on a directory?
[17:58] <ceo> am have install wine and am need run ms office 2007  but have problem or error like this The file '/home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit. can helpp
[17:58] <A_J> TheHackOps: he can't wipe his OS clean with that
[17:58] <eigba> Maybe there will be a new forked named Gubuntu? with gnome? lol
[17:58] <eigba> fork*
[17:58] <xgt001> hey any1 getting good battery backup in natty
[17:58] <DasEi> Browser: you can ping all repos under sources
[17:58] <TheHackOps> A_J, Lies...
[17:58] <mastertogo> in Unity, is it possible to mouse in to other workspaces? e.g. when the mouse touches a screen edge, move into the next workspace in that direction?
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> A_J: I just found some 3Tb NAS for 120 GBP, pretty cheap. Is your data worth that?
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-04/
[17:58] <ceo> ActionParsnip, am have install wine and am need run ms office 2007  but have problem or error like this The file '/home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit. can helpp
[17:58] <cablop> ceo mark it as executable, via Nautilus or chmod
[17:58] <scorch2> i am installing 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and down to found /boot/memtest.bin and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 15min.  any ideas?
[17:58] <predy> ceo openoffice is free
[17:58] <TheHackOps> A_J, Jking
[17:58] <bleach> hi guys, I'm trying to record from my webcam using vlc. I managed to set up the video capture specifying the name of the device /dev/video1 but I'm not sure which is the name of the audio device, can anyone please help me get it?
[17:58] <aperson> mastertogo⍈ should be able to set it in ccsm
[17:58] <Sree_> A_J: Yes.
[17:58] <TheHackOps> Sree_, Boot into a live CD
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> ceo: chmod +x home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe; wine home/ceo/Desktop/Microsoft Office 2007 Enterprise/setup.exe
[17:58] <ceo> predy, openoffice bad and not good
[17:59] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, then i am out of ideas then it works ok here
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> ceo:  or do from command line 'wine /path/to/installer.exe'
[17:59] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: the last thing I did was try to install nautilus Elementary but it didin't work
[17:59] <Browser> DasEi: fail too
[17:59] <mastertogo> aperson, ccsm?
[17:59] <Jordan_U> aperson: Why are you using bash -c instead of just running the command?
[17:59] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: ty
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | ceo may want to check compatibility too
[17:59] <cablop> ceo, anyway, office 2007 will give you some trouble to run on wine, try a virtual machine instead
[17:59] <eigba> Im comming from Arch linux, this channel moves fast lol
[17:59] <Sree_> I considered wiping the drive clean but did not know how to get it in ? as a package in itself ? via usb? Thanks again.
[17:59] <ceo> oke thanks ActionParsnip and am will try you step Dr_Willis
[17:59] <calrik> overall unity find for a netbook not great for a desktop
[17:59] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈ it doesn't send the command to screen otherwise
[17:59] <rcmaehl> okay what to I add to grub.cfg to my tty terminals aren't like 50x20 charaters
[17:59] <CQ> hello, virtualbox guestadditions want to have kernel headers... is there a generic package to insdtall to always have the headers installed?
[17:59] <DasEi> Browser: what happens if you try ?
[17:59] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, thats probably whats broken it
[17:59] <scorch2> i am installing 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and down to found /boot/memtest.bin and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 15min.  any ideas?
[17:59] <A_J> ActionParsnip: yes proably, but i need to expand again this week, and have 4 ITB internal Already
[17:59] <A_J> i mean external
[17:59] <yuskhanzab> how to undo the "complete panel lock" after update to natty narwhal? can someone help me here
[17:59] <DasEi> !headers | CQ
[17:59] <mastertogo> thanks =)
[17:59] <Sree_> TheHackOps - okay...I will look for gpart.
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> ceo: 2007 gets a platibum rating :)
[17:59] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: you know any way to fix it?
[17:59] <rcmaehl> !vga
[18:00] <A_J> Sree_: U have the install iso for windows ?
[18:00] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: do you know if is possible to delete it?
[18:00] <rcmaehl> it's like vga=7somehting
[18:00] <arand> eigba: That's why there's #ubuntu-offtopic for non-support chat ;)
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> yuskhanzab:  not seen/heard of a way to unlock it.. yet.
[18:00] <mikebeecham> guys for some reason when I log in I do not see the unity desktop under "Ubuntu", but if I log in under "Classic" gnome appears
[18:00] <mikebeecham> help!
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> A_J: Well I warned you , I have my "I told you so" sign ready
[18:00] <TheHackOps> Sree_, Boot into a live CD, if you need to wipe your hard disk that is currently active
[18:00] <scorch2> i am installing 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and down to found /boot/memtest.bin and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 15min.  any ideas?
[18:00] <Jordan_U> aperson: It seems like you're trying to work around problems rather than understand them.
[18:00] <CQ> DasEi: I know that, my question was different: is there a GENERIC package to install to always get the headers instlled when a new kernel is installed?
[18:00] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: how to update the system?
[18:00] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas?
[18:00] <cannonball> scorch2: repeatedly asking the same question is not good.  If nobody answers, it likely means nobody knows.  I've never seen it, so I don't know either.
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> mikebeecham: if you don't have 3D accelleration, youo won't get Unity
[18:00] <robin0800> Chilaquiles,  install elementary properly then uninstall it
[18:00] <cablop> CQ check them manually in synaptic (if 11.04 still have it) it depends on your installed kernel and architecture, but you'll find it called linux-headers-XXXXXXX
[18:00] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈ that's line is mostly pulled from an existing, well established script
[18:01] <DasEi> CQ: once you done it, next will be pulled as dependency, too, yes
[18:01] <Browser> DasEi: E: encountered a section with no Package: header E: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/apt/list/ es.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_natty_main_binariy-i386_Packages
[18:01] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: I did like 20 times
[18:01] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈ I didn't ask for help with the part that already works ;)
[18:01] <TheHackOps> I hate flash
[18:01] <A_J> Sree_: download and burn this on an CD
[18:01] <TheHackOps> its so mean to me
[18:01] <A_J> http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[18:01] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip: how do I tell if 3D acceleration is activated?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: what video chip are you using?
[18:01] <TheHackOps> A_J, is that the prebuilt ubcd
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  with the package manager tools.
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  or sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:01] <yuskhanzab> before this upgrade, im using ubuntu-tweak to lock and unlock the panel. now after i update the system, its been lock. how can i undo this back? if there a way can someone tell me..?
[18:01] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, where did you get elementary from?
[18:01] <Chico1986> hello everyone, having some issues with wireless on a macbook, could anyone help?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> mikebeecham: what is the output of:  lspci | grep -i vga
[18:01] <cablop> TheHackOps: install FlaskBlock for Firefox and for Chrome... i hate flash too xD\
[18:02] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip: sec..
[18:02] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, i think some ati radeion mobility
[18:02] <acidflash> hello everyone
[18:02] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: from the repository
[18:02] <A_J> TheHackOps: no, it's an idependent bootable ISo
[18:02] <DasEi> Browser: sudo apt-get clean && sudo dpkg --configure -a && sudo apt-get update
[18:02] <A_J> with many tools
[18:02] <TheHackOps> i don't know
[18:02] <scorch2> cannonball ok but what should i do?  interupt the install process and resart?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> TheHackOps: if you are using the proprietary driver it should be ok
[18:02] <acidflash> i would like to have upstart launch a software called squid LAST in the order of things to launch
[18:02] <TheHackOps> A_J, So it doesn't use windows like ubcd
[18:02] <acidflash> what is the way to do that
[18:02] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, think you need a ppa for natty
[18:02] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, You would think so....
[18:02] <DasEi> acidflash: put it in rc.local
[18:02] <Chilaquiles> I don't have natty
[18:02] <MnCC> well compiz is broken as .... only logical option left was to remove it ..
[18:02] <A_J> no, it's dosbanes TheHackOps
[18:03] <ActionParsnip> acidflash: remove squid from the startup apps and then add the command to run squid as you desire in /etc/rc.local
[18:03] <A_J> dos Based*
[18:03] <acidflash> DasEi: it never gets to the line
[18:03] <cannonball> scorch2: any way to figure out what it's trying to do?  I know in CentOS you can switch terminals to a shell and look around and see processes and such.  I don't know how Ubuntu does it.  I'm not really an Ubuntu guy.
[18:03] <mikebeecham> ActionParsnip: 01.00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 (GeForce 7600GT) (Rev a2)
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> acidflash:  check   the services /etc/init/WHATEVER.conf file and edit it perhaps.
[18:03] <ceo> ActionParsnip, thanks you step work, am can isntalll the msoffice,. but whare / how to run ms word because wine no on linst application menu ?
[18:03] <MnCC> is there a way to revert back to gnome ?
[18:03] <DasEi> acidflash: btw can also set squid to start in daemon-mode
[18:03] <A_J> i use Hiren's Boot CD TheHackOps but is not scritly legal
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  gnome classic is on the login/gdm screen as an option
[18:03] <TrentonAdams> hi guys.  How do I get rid of unity in ubuntu 11.04?
[18:03] <jiltdil> which is best software for desktop recorder available in  natty
[18:03] <Ahmuck> what options are there for the unity button menu?
[18:03] <cablop> TrentonAdams: http://ubuntuguide.net/ubuntu-11-04-natty-login-to-classic-gnome-2-desktop
[18:03] <arand> TrentonAdams: Login with classic session
[18:03] <Ahmuck> it's stacking icons.  is there a way to get two button menus
[18:03] <DasEi> TrentonAdams: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/27668927/gnome.txt
[18:03] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  install ccsm and check out the unity plugin.
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> mikebeecham: ok under the system -> admin menu there is the hardware driver installer, tell it to install the nvidia driver and reboot, you'll have nice 3d accell and you'llbe able to boot to unity
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  not seen that option
[18:04] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, going for it =)
[18:04] <TrentonAdams> cablop: thanks
[18:04] <Andy80> hello
[18:04] <mikebeecham> Action, I dont see any menus
[18:04] <mikebeecham> I should do this from common?
[18:04] <txomon> !ask Andy80
[18:04] <robin0800> Chilaquiles, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/03/phew-nautilus-elementary-revived-in-time-for-ubuntu-natty/
[18:04] <acidflash> Dr_Willis: there is no squid.conf in /etc/init...
[18:04] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas?
[18:04] <A_J> !ask | Andy80
[18:04] <jiltdil> best s/w availabe for desktop recording available?
[18:04] <mikebeecham> I mean, classic ActionParsnip
[18:04] <ceo> mikebeecham, see at out side
[18:05] <mikebeecham> ceo: sorry?
[18:05] <scorch2> i am installing 11.04  it has gotten to generating grub.cfg and down to found /boot/memtest.bin and has stopped.  my cpu has been pegged about 15min.  any ideas?
[18:05] <Andy80> txomon, A_J what?! I just said hello :D
[18:05] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: I don't have Natty
[18:05] <DasEi> Browser: doing now ?
[18:05] <txomon> KNUBBIG, you have to press ALT (in gnome 3)
[18:05] <Ahmuck> why is the unity bar hiding to the side?
[18:05] <serene> I've downloaded a NV driver from its website, ended with .run,  what should i do to run it?
[18:05] <jaymeskeller> Hi, I have been looking for an answer to the g15 crash. It seems that uinput is missing from /dev. Any ways to fix it?
[18:05] <cablop> A_J he is saying hello, not asking to ask :P
[18:05] <TheHackOps> ActionParsnip, The wierdest thing is that HP Supports this laptop as an "Official Linux Laptop"
[18:05] <TheHackOps> so all the drivers are made for it
[18:05] <TheHackOps> for ubuntu anyway
[18:05] <Chilaquiles> robin0800: I have Maverick
[18:05] <Augustuen> Is there a way I can have FFmpeg not use as much CPU?
[18:05] <KNUBBIG> txomon: I'm on unity
[18:05] <Augustuen> it's making my system overheat
[18:05] <txomon> Andy80, oki
[18:05] <ceo> mikebeecham, oke thats fine
[18:05] <Jordan_U> aperson: cat "$SPATH/motd" | while read line;
[18:05] <txomon> KNUBBIG, ah ok
[18:05] <mikebeecham> ceo: I dont understand?
[18:05] <A_J> lol Andy80, i just corrected txomon command, idk what happaned.. err Welcome \o/
[18:05] <greylurk> scorch2 what process is running?
[18:05] <TheHackOps> that was strange the chat just stopped
[18:05] <DasEi> Augustuen: you could alter it's nice
[18:06] <Browser> DasEi: fail too, mmm i am going to remove the es.ubuntu....... repository
[18:06] <DasEi> !nice | Augustuen
[18:06] <scorch2> greylurk  what do you mean?  ps x returns a bunch
[18:06] <ceo> mikebeecham, be understand oke... am will help you
[18:06] <remlabm> has the 11.04 netbook been released yet?
[18:06] <xgt001> Augusten: same here
[18:06] <KNUBBIG> Hey, I remember someone asked that already today but I didn't get the solution: When I click "Shutdown" in 11.04 + unity, it just simply logs me out instead of really shutting down, but "sudo shutdown -h now" works fine. Any ideas?
[18:06] <A_J> DasEi: any idea, what language ubottu is coded in
[18:06] <mbeierl> Augustuen: "nice" is a way to make programs yield the CPU to other programs ... to be "nice", but if there's nothing else going on, it will still use 100% cpu and make it hot
[18:06] <cablop> Browser ubuntu 11.04? use main repos for a while until all repos are in sync, it will took a feww weeks or a month depending where you are
[18:06] <mikebeecham> ceo: might be better if you dont help, your english is terrible
[18:07] <mikebeecham> I wouldn't understand you
[18:07] <Jot> is current unity still in beta? or is it intentional I can't type anything in firefox while running chatzilla? -.-
[18:07] <KNUBBIG> remlabm: no more difference between desktop and netbook afaik
 there is no 11.04 netbook english
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> remlabm:  yes i saw the torrents of it.. not sure how it differs from the desktop ed. now.
[18:07] <TopRamen_EVO> usr13 you there
[18:07] <greylurk> scorch2 try top... What is pegging your CPU?
[18:07] <Pici> !botclone | A_J
[18:07] <Andy80> a quick question: which package does contain the Natty's battery applet? I need to report a bug on it but I don't know package name....
[18:07] <Dr_Willis> anyone else notice theres a netbook and desktop torrent files. or are they the same iso now?
[18:07] <bleach> hi guys, I'm trying to record from my webcam using vlc. I managed to set up the video capture specifying the name of the device /dev/video1 but I'm not sure which is the name of the audio device, can anyone please help me get it?
[18:07] <remlabm> ok thank you very much
[18:07] <KNUBBIG> !info supybot
[18:07] <ceo> mikebeecham, oke, thats fine, what i can help you, and don be terreble
[18:07] <A_J> damn u have a command for that too ty Pici
[18:07] <TrentonAdams> anyone know how to make the language selector icon show the country code like it used to?  When I upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 it went away, and now I'm on 11.04 and it's still not there in gnome2
[18:07] <KNUBBIG> so it's Python :D
[18:07] <Pici> Dr_Willis: The netbook torrent is a broken link, I've reported a bug for it.
[18:07] <vish> Andy80: gnome-power-manager
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> Pici:  so its Not supposed to be there i take it?
[18:08] <Pici> Dr_Willis: Correct.
[18:08] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: i get those errors from update http://pastebin.com/xPu1WKYv
[18:08] <txomon> KNUBBIG, pressing a button in gnome is not the same as putting a command in terminal (really yes, but it isn't managed in same way) shutdown
[18:08] <vibhav> any prob anybody?
[18:08] <vibhav> any problem anybody?
[18:08] <ceo> Goliath, need update back
[18:08] <TheHackOps> Im going to try the 32 bit 10.2 flash release
[18:08] <vish> Andy80: it sends the info and indicator applet just displays what it is asked
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  servers are massivbly loaded right now.. so any errors may be due to them being down/slow
[18:08] <TheHackOps> and see if its better
[18:08] <KNUBBIG> txomon: yes ok but wyh doesn't the shtudown button work
[18:08] <jaymeskeller> Hi, I have been looking for an answer to the g15 crash. It seems that uinput is missing from /dev. Any ways to fix it?
[18:08] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: ok give it a look
[18:08] <scorch2> greylurk  how do i tell?  i just have gkrellm telling me that.  99% cpu usage no drive blinking stuck at generating grub.cf
[18:08] <DasEi> A_J: irc bot, either c++ or phython I GUESS, #ubuntu-offtopic will know
[18:08] <Ahmuck> is there a way to customize the top bar?  left click does nothing?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  not really any way to customize it. that ive seen
[18:08] <vish> Ahmuck: nope
[18:09] <vibhav> any problem anybody?
[18:09]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  i imagine there will be articals on doing it in a few days
[18:09] <TheHackOps> vibhav, FLASH
[18:09] <txomon> KNUBBIG, try looking in what that button calls
[18:09] <TheHackOps> vibhav, PM plz?
[18:09] <Ahmuck> can i say bad things now?
 Yes?
[18:09] <TopRamen_EVO> dr_willis and usr13 if and when either one of you have time please send me a query. thanks
[18:09] <cuppsy> Anyone had issues with Empathy disconnecting from Windows Live Messenger every hour or so?
[18:09] <bp0> how to get rid of the extra shutdown/logout in the system menu?
[18:09] <Ahmuck> for example, the text is dark and no way to read it
[18:09] <Sree_> A_J: I am getting to a mirror site and am on a slow connection...so bear with me and thanks for the help. Thanks HackOps too.
[18:09] <shaneo> can someone help me with a script for xchat
[18:09] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: how can i enable local servers?
[18:09] <TheHackOps> vibhav, can i pm you please
[18:09] <greylurk> scorch2 go to a terminal, type "top" and see what's on the top of the list.
[18:09] <Andy80> vish: yeah, the problem is that I see TWO lines with battery info and then "Preferences" when I click on the icon :) so... it's a  gnome-power-manager bug or a indicator's one?
[18:09]  * Ahmuck needs a double unity bar for this to work
[18:09] <shaneo> its a copy and paste text what do i save the file as
[18:10] <shaneo> .sh?
[18:10] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈ thanks, it's modified to this now: http://pastie.org/1847910 and it works perfectly
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  you mean make your own repository?
[18:10] <vish> Ahmuck: which applet? if it is a problem, you can report a bug about that
[18:10] <vibhav> oh yes <TheHackOps>
[18:10] <vibhav> TheHackOps , you can PM me
[18:10]  * nyven is at the point of breaking PCs here
 Hi, I have been looking for an answer to the g15 crash. It seems that uinput is missing from /dev. Any ways to fix it? using it now in natty but had to edit /dev
[18:10] <soreau> Ok why the hell is a terminal popping up and starting orca all by itself? I exit the terminal and it opens again and starts talking! How can I disable this???
[18:10] <greylurk> scorch2 sometimes pressing "m" to sort by memory usage is also helpful.
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> shaneo:  xchat scripts would be loaded by xchat i imagine.  You may want to check the xchat homepage/docs. and #xchat
[18:10] <scorch2> greylurk xflux, xorg,
[18:10] <xgt001> is it true tat in natty the battery life is reduced
[18:10] <aperson> Jordan_U⍈ I haven't used read much, so I always trip up on it. that, and I hardly use <
[18:10] <nyven> cablop: you still here?
[18:10] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: no use another server not the main
[18:10] <Ahmuck> not an applet.  i have 20 icons on unity bar and it's stacking them.  don't need them stacked.  don't want the bar hidden
[18:10] <A_J> Sree_: np, just burn that(4X), boot it up and select parrtition Managers,and delete your entire hdd sytem and make a new NTFS partiotion for windows
[18:10] <DasEi> Browser: from the time, I can tell you didn't use synaptics to find your best mirror, natty is up and fine
[18:10]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  they are all experiencing high load.
[18:11] <DW-10297> Anyone know where you can get the netboot media for 11.04 server?
[18:11] <A_J> !natty
[18:11] <bp0> how to get rid of the extra shutdown/logout in the system menu?
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  you mean the left side panel?
[18:11]  * TrentonAdams is ready to be helped. :P
[18:11] <DasEi> vibhav: great , bakshish ;)
[18:11] <Ahmuck> yes, left side panel
 there is no ubuntu netbook edition
[18:11] <scorch2> what is xflux?
[18:11] <Sree_> A_J: Thank you. WIll do so and report back in about an hour.
[18:11] <A_J> in natty^
[18:11] <DW-10297> Good thing I didn't say netbook
[18:11] <greylurk> scorch2 never heard of xflux.
[18:11] <Pici> !unr | DW-10297
[18:11] <Ahmuck> left click for menu options don't work, all i get is options for the applet
[18:11] <jiltdil> how to remove not installed(residual config ) from ubutu package man as the apply button is freezes
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> Ahmuck:  not seen a way to hide those yet either.
[18:11] <spungo> DW-10297: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/mini.iso
[18:11] <DW-10297> I said netboot
[18:11] <A_J> Sree_: i won't be here, but good luck
[18:11] <NyvenZA> TheHackOps: I have not tried to install compiz, using it without unity and as soon as I run a window manger, I can't interact with the desktop anymore
[18:11] <vish> Andy80: indicator-applet
[18:12] <Ahmuck> Dr_Willis: heh, mine is hidden, i'm trying to get it back
[18:12] <Pici> DW-10297: ah.. misread, sorry.
[18:12] <DasEi> scorch2: flux is another windowmanager for x
[18:12] <A_J> and i'm sorry your leaving your ubuntu, Sree_
[18:12]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[18:12] <DasEi> !flux
[18:12] <xgt001> there is a bug filed in launchpad about the poor performance regressio
[18:12] <DW-10297> perfect, thank you
[18:12] <soreau> Hey guys I opened sound preferences and now at the same time, a terminal popped up and it's running orca apparently because it's talking. When I close the terminal it opens itself again and starts orca again! How can I disable this?
[18:12] <vish> vibhav: you can just answer questions people are asking here..
[18:12] <spungo> DW-10297: welcome.
[18:12] <vibhav> Yes
[18:12] <DasEi> scorch2: http://fluxbox.org/
[18:12] <vibhav> vish Yes
[18:12] <DW-10297> spungo: there is no "server specific" media right?
[18:13] <greylurk> scorch2 what's the %cpu for flux?
[18:13] <txomon> soreau, try ps -eF | grep orca and kill those processes
[18:13] <Sree_> A_J: I have an old system from the pentium days that I want to rebuild and startup with ubuntu on that again....This messing with my better half's pc was my mistake....live and learn - they said.
[18:13] <robin0800> DW-10297, wrong
[18:13] <eigba_> Fluxbox might look bare at the beggining but it can be configured trough config files to be a really nice desktop enviroment
[18:13] <scorch2> greylurk i killed it .  i know what it is.  now cpu is normal.  but install is still frozen
[18:13] <DasEi> Augustuen: please ask for pm, I almost have overseen it; with nice you can set how much cpu time a process can access, yes
[18:13] <A_J> Sree_: aah, okie.. tbh i have a windows mac and ubuntu pc, ubuntu doesnt need much power.. so best to use the oldest pc
[18:13] <DasEi> man nice
[18:14] <spungo> DW-10297: not afaik
[18:14] <greylurk> scorch2 not sure that was a good idea, but give it a bit to empty out request queues and such.
[18:14] <FoolsRun> Does anyone here actually like 11.04? I really like it and I'm losing my mind reading the squeeky wheels bitch all over the internet.
[18:14] <scorch2> greylurk stuck at generating grub founf image memtest.bin
[18:14] <eigba_> Brb, I just farted out a butt turd
[18:14] <txomon> FoolsRun, I do
[18:15] <Sree_> A_J - that was the reasoning I used...just have to dust it off and start afresh looking from drivers and such....but thank you for the encouragement.
[18:15] <NyvenZA> sorry, to say this, but so far my experince with natty has been horrible. all the previous versions worked witout a glitch, I upgraded from 9.04 all the way to 10.10 and now this upgrade ruined everything
[18:15] <FoolsRun> txomon: cool, me too.
[18:15] <robin0800> FoolsRun, I like unity 2d
[18:15] <scorch2> greylurk it just a program i insatlled to adjust the screen colors
[18:15] <DW-10297> There doesn't appear to be a separate server netboot image?
[18:15] <NyvenZA> how do i get unity 2d to work ?
[18:15] <Guest53463> hi
[18:15] <txomon> NyvenZA, define everything
[18:15] <Jot> does anyone know the secrets of setting resolution and refresh rate in new ubuntu? :X
[18:15] <Guest53463> hi where can i install a plugin for gedit? ...what is the location?
[18:15] <spungo> FoolsRun: 11.04 is dissapointing, imo. Especially unty.
[18:15] <A_J> Sree_: ubuntu mostly needs no drivers
[18:15] <Jot> spungo: +1
[18:15] <NyvenZA> Wrong Kernel version in the Make File that came default withthe kernel headers
[18:15] <Goliath> Dr_Willis: what is the command to get ubuntu restricted extras?
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> NyvenZA:   i just install the unity2d package and select it at the GDM screen
[18:16] <robin0800> NyvenZA, you have to install it first
[18:16] <FoolsRun> What is disappointing about Unity? I think it makes everything easier for new users.
[18:16] <NyvenZA> so I could not compile vboxdrvs
[18:16] <jimcooncat> on default 10.10 I'm doing some automation -- how to I keep Update Manager from popping up? Would rather have just a notification icon.
[18:16] <Sree_> A_J: I had some issue with finding wireless drivers on the Heron...
[18:16] <NyvenZA> GDM doesn't work
[18:16] <XceptN> how can I add a custom launcher in Unity (11.04(
[18:16] <Jot> FoolsRun: that you can't set proper resolution and refresh rate for your monitor
[18:16] <NyvenZA> I installed lightdm and that works
[18:16] <NyvenZA> I can get a log screen then
[18:16] <scorch2> greylurk now i have xorg, gkrellm, natty, running
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> Goliath:  http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/10-things-to-do-after-installing-ubuntu-11-04/  has a link to do that.. no need to type anything. its 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package i belive.
[18:16] <A_J> !vbox | A_J
[18:16] <Browser> Anybody could past the apt source list of natty ?
[18:17] <NyvenZA> with GDM the Dosktop icons are diplayed, but the GDM window is invissble
[18:17] <soreau> Hey guys I opened sound preferences and now at the same time, a terminal popped up and it's running orca apparently because it's talking. When I close the terminal it opens itself again and starts orca again! How can I disable this?
 lemme tell you
[18:17] <xgt001> Goliath: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[18:17] <NyvenZA> when i move the mouse over the locations there the login nd password should go the mouse curor changes
[18:17] <NyvenZA> to edit icon
[18:17] <NyvenZA> but my keyboard doesn't work
[18:17] <txomon> Guest53463, I tried in ~/.gnome2/gedit/plugins
[18:17] <Ors> Hi, I am unable to find the 'Contacts' shortcut, which is part of Evolution, in order to access my contacts. I do not want to use the mail client just 'Contacts'. Anybody has an idea?
[18:17] <Guest53463> txomon, also for kubuntu?
[18:18] <FoolsRun> Jot: I haven't had any trouble using nvidia-settings
[18:18] <NyvenZA> if I run unity --replace and then kill it from a console the window manger is killed, but the xorg keeps running
[18:18] <NyvenZA> then my keyboard works and I can interact with the icons on the desktop
[18:18] <scorch2> if the natty install gets stuck is it possible to restart it from where it froze up?
[18:18] <txomon> Guest53463, gedit...
[18:18] <txomon> Guest53463, try it
 when you use the application right click the icon-> keep in luancher
[18:18] <Jot> FoolsRun: maybe because ubuntu recognizes your monitor
[18:18] <Guest53463> i want to install this plugin: http://sourceforge.net/projects/gedit-fileset/
[18:18] <FoolsRun> scorch2: did it get stuck stopping CUPS by any chance? I had mine stop there a few times and just manually killed CUPS to fix it.
[18:18] <josephnexus> a friend of mine just installed 11.04 and it wondering how to clear recent documents... i've figured out how to do it it in most places, but totem doesn't seem to store it in recently-used and i'm not finding any where to clear it since there is no places menu anymore
[18:18] <NyvenZA> Sofar I have not been able to get into my Xwindows
[18:19] <josephnexus> any ideas?
[18:19] <JaredisAwesome> I was trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 last night and my stupidass hit shutdown during the middle of the upgrade. Now whenever I boot its telling me I'm missing some drivers, and that Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode (though i cannot make it past that dialogue). Whenever i try to boot into recovery mode it doesn't seem to fully boot properly either. Is there anything i can do to fix this upgrade? Or should I just downlo
[18:19] <Guest53463> txomon, there is no gnome2 here!
[18:19] <dooglus> when I update it tells me "natty InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2"
[18:19] <dooglus> what do?
[18:19] <scorch2> foolsrun no.  at generating grub
[18:19] <surreal7z> is there any problem with Emerald on ubuntu 11.04 because xubuntu 11.04 has a bug with it.
[18:19] <TrentonAdams> My gnome looks like the old windows now, with really deep looking buttons and text boxes.  Is that a feature of the newer gnome in 11.04, or can I get looking the way it used to?
[18:20] <Jot> well, trying to get any efficient help here is like trying to set resolution in ubuntu 11.04
[18:20] <NyvenZA> Dr_Willis: what is the unity 2d package name >
[18:20] <FoolsRun> NyvenZA: unity-2d
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> NyvenZA:  unity-2d  :)
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> logical name for a change
[18:20] <NyvenZA> i tried unity2d
[18:20] <NyvenZA> will try that
[18:20] <dooglus> !info unity-2d
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> try apt-cache search unity
[18:21] <FoolsRun> Hey, unity-2d will work in NX, right?
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> or the TAB completion feature. heh
[18:21] <NyvenZA> that is installing thanks
[18:21] <robin0800> NyvenZA, unity-2d-settings
[18:21] <bp0> how to get rid of the extra shutdown/logout in the system menu?
[18:21] <frag4now> hi all. where are stored ubuntu packages after fetch?
[18:21] <bp0> how to get normal scrollbars again?
[18:21] <eigba_> I hope the complaints continue flowing into the Ubuntu team, unity is fine but they should officially support gnome 3 also. I know it can be compiled and installed regardless but they should offically support it
[18:21] <NyvenZA> now, how will i configure it to use the 2d version in place of the 3d verison with out using gdm ?
[18:21] <surreal7z> is anybody using Emerald in ubuntu 11.04, because in xubuntu 11.04 it doesn't work?
[18:21] <POVaddct> does 11.04 already use wayland as gfx system or still xorg?
[18:22] <soreau> Hey guys I opened sound preferences and now at the same time, a terminal popped up and it's running orca (because it's talking and says so). When I close the terminal it opens itself again and starts orca again! How can I disable this?
[18:22] <txomon> Guest53463, I meant that it is gedit... somewhere in your home must be /*/gedit/
[18:22] <robin0800> eigba_, it was not ready in time
[18:22] <dooglus> frag4now: /var/cache/apt/archives/
[18:22] <rumpe1> POVaddct, xorg
[18:22] <frag4now> dooglus: thanks
[18:22] <Browser> DasEi: fix, i use sudo rm /var/lib/apt/list/*
[18:22] <FoolsRun> eigba_: I disagree. I think it's a good idea to focus on Ubuntu being one thing. Part of what's offputting about linux is how fragmented it is.
[18:22] <POVaddct> rumpe1: thanks
[18:22] <spungo> eigba_: I would prefer gnome 3 to gnome 2 + unity
[18:22] <dooglus> frag4now: "locate .deb"
[18:22] <frag4now> dooglus: doh! :P
[18:22] <JaredisAwesome>  I was trying to upgrade from 10.04 to 10.10 last night and my stupidass hit shutdown during the middle of the upgrade. Now whenever I boot its telling me I'm missing some drivers, and that Ubuntu is running in low graphics mode (though i cannot make it past that dialogue). Whenever i try to boot into recovery mode it doesn't seem to fully boot properly either. Is there anything i can do to fix this upgrade? Or should I just downl
[18:22] <Guest53463> txomon, there is not gedit in home!
[18:22] <mikebeecham> Ok, so I can see in Additional Drivers that I'm being told "Activated, but not in use"...can anyone help get these working? I have no unity at the moment
[18:22] <dooglus> frag4now: "sudo apt-get clean" will delete them and free a bunch of space.  you don't need them once they're installed
[18:23] <bp0> how to get rid of the extra shutdown/logout in the system menu? how to get normal scrollbars again? how to get rid of the very heavy shadow from the foremost window? how to fix the resize handle overlapping?
[18:23] <eigba_> spungo, Yes same here, I think unity os cool for new users but not for long time linux users
[18:23] <DasEi> Browser: nice if it works then, and mind changing your sources, fastest mirror can safe a lot of time
[18:23] <eigba_> is*
[18:23] <NyvenZA> Dr_Willis: do you know what I need to edit to use the 2d version in place of the 3d version ?
[18:23] <frag4now> dooglus: noooooooooooooo :) I have two ubuntu and i don't want to download upgrade packages two times ;)
[18:23] <robin0800> bp0, all bugs I think
[18:23] <DasEi> mikebeecham: nvidia I guess ?
[18:23] <dooglus> frag4now: look into apt-cacher.  that's what I use to only download each package once
[18:23] <mateobur> Hello
[18:23] <frag4now> apt-cacher?
[18:24] <frag4now> dooglus: ^
[18:24] <txomon> Guest53463, I meant in some folder inside your home, is a gedit folder
[18:24] <mateobur> I'm suffering an error trying to install gnome3
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> NyvenZA:  your .dmrc file perhaps. No idea what it should be.
[18:24] <dooglus> frag4now: each of my computers points to the 'server' in its sources.list, and the server caches the .deb files, so each one is only downloaded once
[18:24] <dooglus> !info apt-cacher
[18:24] <mikebeecham> DasEi: actually, just discovered that the unity plugin with CCSM was not enabled :D
[18:24] <mateobur> http://pastebin.com/nub31ru9
[18:24] <DasEi> mikebeecham: you can activate the recommended from the jockey-gui, then have to stop gdm and run : sudo nvidia-xconfig, then start gdm again
[18:24] <robin0800> NyvenZA, http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/unity-2d-gets-a-ppa/
[18:25] <sereal> When doing do-release-upgrade I'm getting "gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found"
[18:25] <frag4now> dooglus: and what if i copy by my hand packages...deb packages are i386...they work with ever arch...
[18:25] <mikebeecham> DasEi: what is Jockey-gui?
[18:25] <Ahmuck> so, without multiple unity bars, it's a bit borked for me
[18:25] <dooglus> frag4now: some .deb files are arch-independant.  some aren't
[18:25] <dooglus> frag4now: apt-cacher will take care of that for you
[18:25] <DasEi> mikebeecham: the gui listing available drivers, it's called jockey-gtk
[18:25] <bp0> this was a big mistake.
[18:25] <Ahmuck> opening konversation, i have to go through and drive down the bar to the bottom to get it back without the taskbar
[18:26] <Lopyshok> hi all .help me with the sound ... don't work in ubuntu
[18:26] <mikebeecham> DasEi: ahhh, well it's in there that shows that I have 'activated, but not currently using" the drivers
[18:26] <Ahmuck> it's a neat start, but clunky
[18:26] <frag4now> dooglus: i'll copy packages and apt-get will download package dependant only...it's the same
[18:26] <DasEi> mikebeecham: see above, xconfig...
[18:26] <NotIpsum> jwheare: thanks
[18:26] <Guest53463> txomon, what about /usr/lib/gedit-2/plugins ?
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> anyone else noticed some weirdness in the 'Applications lens' (in the left side bar the mag glass with the +)  Its Got 'apps availiable for download' and for some reason its showing 'xubuntu-restricted-extras' whats the logic behind showing me that :)
[18:26] <DasEi> mikebeecham: you can activate the recommended from the jockey-gui, then have to stop gdm and run : sudo nvidia-xconfig, then start gdm again
[18:26] <A_J> can i upgrade from 10.10 32bit to 11.04 64bit ?
[18:26] <Lopyshok> hi all .help me with the sound ... don't work in ubuntu
[18:26] <NyvenZA> robin0800: my GDM doesn't work
[18:27] <Jot> I have been trying to set resolution and refresh rate proper for my screen which ubuntu doesn't recognize for 2 days searching on Internet for info, this low refresh rate hurts my eyes, please help!
[18:27] <NyvenZA> I get can't see anything of GDM
[18:27] <Jordan_U> aperson: You're welcome.
[18:27] <Xeli> Did anyone manage to install xbmc? installing by adding de ppa etc does not work for me, could anyone point me in the right direction?
[18:27] <Lopyshok> hi all .help me with the sound ... don't work in ubuntu
[18:27] <txomon> Guest53463, I supose that you may have something similar in your home
[18:27] <Guest53463> i dont see it
[18:27] <A_J> can i upgrade from 10.10 32bit to 11.04 64bit ? DasEi
[18:27] <txomon> Guest53463, that would be 4 everyone
[18:27] <mikebeecham> DasEi: the drivers ARE activated, but I am being told they are not being used. I've rebooted a numbers of times, but nothing changes
[18:27] <dooglus> frag4now: if the package name has _i386.deb at the end, it's Intel.  if it has _all.deb, it's independent
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> A_J:  you cant upgrade from 32bit to 64
[18:27] <robin0800> NyvenZA, you have a terminal?
[18:27] <Lopyshok> hi all .help me with the sound ... don't work in ubuntu .... obody  help me
[18:27] <Jot> mikebeecham: I have excatly the same with my drivers
[18:27] <A_J> hmm ok Dr_Willis.. ty
[18:27] <Lopyshok> ?
[18:27] <frag4now> dooglus: i386 it's a kind of arch
[18:27] <frag4now> ;)
[18:28] <DasEi> A_J: not recommened, either use pae or a fresh install, see :
[18:28] <frag4now> the common to any pc
[18:28] <DasEi> !pae
[18:28] <NyvenZA> robin0800: yes
[18:28] <frag4now> "any standard"
[18:28] <Guest53463> how can u display hidden files?
[18:28] <DasEi> mikebeecham: see above, xconfig...
[18:28] <s5fs> Guest53463: ls -la
[18:28] <sereal> Xeli: I was able to do install xbmc, you gotta be a bit more specific on what the problems were.
[18:28] <A_J> pae ?
[18:29] <FoolsRun> Does anyone have a "best way" to move an Ubuntu installation from one hard drive to another?
[18:29] <txomon> s5fs, ls -laR | grep *gedit*
[18:29] <A_J> DasEi: pae ?
[18:29] <A_J> !pae
[18:29] <DasEi> Guest53463: or ctrl-h in nautilus
[18:29] <sereal> Xeli: also check #xbmc-linux they might be more specific
[18:29] <txomon> Guest53463, in gnome is with CTL+H
[18:29] <DasEi> A_J: it's a specialised kernel to adress more ram, the server-kernel also delivers it
[18:29] <metallicacom> siemka
[18:30] <ubuntu_user> I have 20 gb free space on my HDD, how to i use it to install UBUNTU 11.04, i am on installer.
[18:30] <Chilaquiles> hey guys how can I make the view that I have in nautilus the default view, because every time I open it I have to add the panel that is not appearing
[18:30] <mikebeecham> DasEi: where? link?
[18:30] <bp0> will there be cdemu for natty?
[18:30] <Goliath> hey is gnome3 included in the last ubuntu?
[18:30] <sereal> When doing do-release-upgrade I'm getting "gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found"
[18:30] <Vhozard> Whats this? "Fast TSC calibration failed"
[18:30] <DasEi> mikebeecham: you can activate the recommended from the jockey-gui, then have to stop gdm and run : sudo nvidia-xconfig, then start gdm again
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> bp0:  you can mount ISO files if you need to get to their contents..  what are youy trying to do with cdemu?
[18:30] <tomatobros> Goliath,  no it's not
[18:30] <robin0800> NyvenZA, sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[18:30] <akashm1990> Should I download a .tar.gz version of revenge of the titans, or a .deb version? (Ubuntu 10.10)
[18:30] <NyvenZA> ok, so now things are getting worse, When I now try and get to a console, the mouse stays on the screen and the text cursor flashes on the screen and then I am dead in the water
[18:30] <NyvenZA> robin0800:did that already
[18:30] <mikebeecham> man alive DasEi what's wrong with you? You've posted that 3 times, and I've already told you that the drivers ARE activated
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> akashm1990:  eitehr one shoudl work. tar.gz you can install inyour users home dir.
[18:31] <DasEi> mikebeecham:stopping gdm (logs you out!) sudo service gdm stop , start
[18:31] <robin0800> NyvenZA, log out
[18:31] <Ahmuck> unity bar works great for touch screen, not so great for mouse
[18:31] <xinel> installed 11.04, after boot a purple screen comes up and nothing happens, what should i do?
[18:31] <akashm1990> Dr_Willis, ok, doesnt make any difference then?
[18:31] <DasEi> mikebeecham:before they won't be used, you kept asking that
[18:31] <mikebeecham> DasEi: I know!!! The drivers are activated, I've stopped and started gdm, but I'm still being told that the drivers are currently not being used
[18:31] <A_J> umm, pae is not installed by default and this command is not workin
[18:31] <A_J> sudo aptitude install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[18:31] <NyvenZA> robin0800: I restarted PC
[18:31] <DasEi> mikebeecham:and ran sudo nvidia-xconfig ?
[18:31] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all! What is the program that allows one to use the mouse in a tty shell?
[18:31] <bp0> Dr_Willis, it's not the same
[18:32] <jbeatty> econdudeawesome, gpm
[18:32] <Nickname_> using pae & nvidia aok
[18:32] <Jot> mikebeecham: I bet you won't find solution to your problem here :p
[18:32] <scorch2> is there any experts here on the install process?  its frozen for me
[18:32] <acidflash> this is what i did, i made a small bash script to check if hte squid.pid exists.. if it doesnt... then start the service.. i added that to crontab and it checks it every minute....
[18:32] <A_J> DasEi ?
[18:32] <mikebeecham> Jot: I wont find it with DasEi
[18:32] <robin0800> NyvenZA,  at the log on screen choose unity-2d
[18:32] <NyvenZA> now I just a black screen after the syste loads
[18:32] <Nickname_> alt+F?
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> robin0800:  he has no login/gdm dont work. :() if you are using unity-2d you could tell him whats in your .dmrc file.
[18:33] <ubuntu_user> I have 20 gb free space on my HDD, how to i use it to install UBUNTU 11.04, i am on installer.
[18:33] <NyvenZA> robin0800: you don't seem to understand, i don't get a login screen
[18:33] <DasEi> A_J: yes ?
[18:33] <NyvenZA> it is just a blank screen
[18:33] <FoolsRun> I want to move my Ubuntu install to a newer, larger hdd. Anyone have a good howto on this?
[18:33] <ahayzen> Hi upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 via LiveCD .. all going well..but now it has stopped at 'Restoring Previously Installed Packages' ... there is no activity on the HDD or CD ..but the network like does seem to be active .. is this an issue or do i just have to wait???
[18:33] <A_J> DasEi:
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_user:  the installer can resize existing partitions to make a new one  you can install too. Unles syou have a really weird drive layout
[18:33] <A_J> umm, pae is not installed by default and this command is not workin
[18:33] <A_J> 23:04 < A_J> sudo aptitude install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[18:33] <scognito> hi
[18:34] <txomon> hi
[18:34] <scorch2> upgradehelp?
[18:34] <txomon> scorch2, could be
[18:34] <scognito> it's about 3 years I don't use IRC for help lol :)
[18:34] <Goliath> hey is gnome3 unstable?
[18:34] <scorch2> txomon ?
[18:34] <ubuntu_user> Dr_Willis:  can i just select that free space to install
[18:34] <txomon> scorch2, which is your problem+
[18:34] <Nickname_> black screen =nvidia driver?
[18:34] <jiltdil> i have i nstalled "radio tray" but clicking to it doesnot openig it?
[18:34] <scorch2> txomon my upgrade to natty is frozen
[18:34] <NyvenZA> Nickname_: probably
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_user:  ubuntu installs to a partition.  it needs to resize what you got. to make a new partition. that can take quite a bit of time  - depending on yoru system.
[18:35] <mikebeecham> Jot: is this a problem with the drivers, or with Ubuntu?
[18:35] <NyvenZA> going to uninstall the NVidia one and install the ubuntu one agian
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu_user:  you could use windows to resize your windows partitions tomake some 'unallocated' space and tell ubuntu to install to the unalocated space
[18:35] <Vustom> Is the launchpad PPA down for anyone else?
[18:35] <A_J> can som1 help me install PAE this command is not working
[18:35] <A_J> umm, pae is not installed by default and this command is not workin
[18:35] <A_J> 23:04 < A_J> sudo aptitude install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[18:35] <DasEi> A_J: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   (new kernel needs reboot), then try again
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> Vustom:  yes it is down here.
[18:35] <scognito> anyway I've just installed 11.04 and on my geforce go 7400 the only driver working seems nouveau (it worked with unity on previous beta installation). the problem is that compiz doesn't start at login now (fresh installation)...any hint?
[18:35] <ubuntu_user> Dr_Willis:  i have 4 gb ram with i5
[18:35] <scorch2> txomon i stoped at generatin grub.cfg
[18:35] <Goliath> HEY
[18:35] <econdudeawesome> thanks jbeatty--Jeff Beatty of Wisconsin?
[18:35] <ahayzen> Hi upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 via LiveCD .. all going well..but now it has stopped at 'Restoring Previously Installed Packages' ... there is no activity on the HDD or CD ..but the network like does seem to be active .. is this an issue or do i just have to wait???
[18:35] <Goliath> is gnome 3 unstable?
[18:35] <Vustom> Damn.. I want to install my applets. :'(
[18:35] <Goliath> will break?
[18:35] <Jot> mikebeecham: I would like to know, maybe that's the reason I can't set resolution
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> Vustom:  i tried it abouit 5 min ago.. got timeouts
[18:35] <Nickname_> main source of black screen is usually weirk nvidia/kernel issue, do text install, update then retry
[18:35] <A_J> ty DasEi
[18:35] <joako> Is there some user-friendly CLI tool for package management? I'm trying to use aptitude but to find an installed package and remove it seems impossible
[18:36] <DasEi> Goliath: can happen, yes
[18:36] <jiltdil> hi radio tray is not working
[18:36] <txomon> scorch2, that means you have to select between your local config or the packets config
[18:36] <DasEi> !gnome3 | Goliath
[18:36] <A_J> DasEi: that should install it ?
[18:36] <txomon> try if you can see another window out there
[18:36] <A_J> correct ?
[18:36] <Vustom> Well, I came here to ask a question, theres another audio application out there thats like PulseAudio and starts with an a, anyone know what it's called..
[18:36] <Goliath> ok
[18:36] <jiltdil> how to fix Radio tray as clicking to it doesnot opening it?
[18:36] <Vustom> I need it for my Xbox 360.. D:
[18:36] <DasEi>  Goliath: fine in my vm, though, own risk
[18:36] <A_J> what does it do Vustom  ?
[18:36] <mikebeecham> Jot: if I found out I'll let you know
[18:37] <Vustom> Adjust volume(s) in Ubuntu
[18:37] <ubuntu_user> how many partitions do i make of that 20 gb and of which types
[18:37] <DasEi> A_J: that should make it possible, yes
[18:37] <Vustom> It's more complex then the standard stuff.
[18:37] <NyvenZA> I see a re-install of ubuntu 10.10 coming my way
[18:37] <Vustom> :3
[18:37] <botcity> Vustom, alsamixer
[18:37] <A_J> thank you DasEi will brb after reboot
[18:37] <Vustom> Thanks!
[18:37] <mikebeecham> Easy question - within unity my 4 workspaces have been set into a grid (2 up and 2 down)...how can I change it back to 4 in a line?
[18:37] <Vustom> What do I type to get alsamixer in the terminal again -.-
[18:37] <Vustom> sudo apt-get alsamixer?
[18:37] <DasEi> A_J: sudo apt-get install linux-generic-pae linux-headers-generic-pae
[18:38] <botcity> Vustom, alsamixer!
[18:38] <Vustom> :O
[18:38] <Vustom> It's already installed. >:)
[18:38] <flametai1> Hey guys quick question, I upgraded from 10.04 to 11.04 but I don't have the fancy new menu, and launcher, how do I get this? lol
[18:38] <econdudeawesome> Vustom: try typing als and pressing "tab" a couple of times to see what packages are available
[18:38] <Nickname_> using natty with classic (normal gnome) no hassels unity not worth the hassel
[18:38] <econdudeawesome> Vustom: autocompletion rocks
[18:38] <A_J> DasEi: what command did you give me earlier
[18:38] <botcity> Vustom, yes
[18:38] <Nickname_> and usung radiotray
[18:38] <DasEi> A_J: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade   (new kernel needs reboot), then try again
[18:39] <A_J> okie ty
[18:39] <A_J> installing pae now
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> mikebeecham:  i dont think you do. you could play with the CCSM settings on the general tab
[18:39] <botcity> !sound | Vustom
[18:39] <A_J> how do i reboot kernal ?
[18:39] <ubuntu_user> how do i do that?
[18:39] <A_J> reboot pc ?
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> A_J:  yes.
[18:39] <flametai1> Anyone know how to at all?
[18:39] <flametai1> o-o
[18:39] <Chilaquiles> anybody here that uses clutterflow in Nautilus that can help me please?
[18:40] <subcool> i need help with this command for x11vnc -"/usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0" --------- The command creates a loop, opening infinite number of sessions.
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> flametai1:  check th GDM login screen. see if theres a unity/gnome-classic items
[18:40] <A_J> btb
[18:40] <Vustom> It's a setting I've got to change when I make a new install of Ubuntu; that's all. :3
[18:40] <A_J> brb
[18:40] <mikebeecham> Dr_Willis: boooo
[18:40] <mikebeecham> thanks anyway!
[18:40] <Vustom> So my Xbox 360 sound can stream through my PC and into my headphones, along with mic.
[18:40] <flametai1> Dr_Willis, there's only Ubuntu option o-o
[18:40] <flametai1> Or Ubuntu classic
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> flametai1:  ubutu is unity.. classic is old gnome
[18:40] <necreo> ho do you pin windows on top now with unity?
[18:40] <Nickname_> classic = no headaches :)
[18:41] <cucujoidea> hello, thanx for the new ubuntu. I have a question regarding the installation: i have the 11.04 .iso file (on ubuntu 10.10), right clicked on it and integrated it as a "drive" which is shown on my desktop. can i upgrade from it without burning the cd? if yes, how can i point the package manager to it?
[18:41] <joako> I can't do anything with package management because I always get: ia32-sun-java6-bin : Depends: sun-java6-jre (>= 6.24-1build0.10.10.1) but it is not going to be installed
[18:41] <joako> And I can't remove ia32-sun-java because of the same issue
[18:41] <flametai1> When I tried booting into the OS after the upgrade, it said my hardware wasn't capable of Unity? But I don't see why it wouldn't
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> necreo:  right cliock  on the title - use the menu items
[18:41] <flametai1> Dr_Willis, When I tried booting into the OS after the upgrade, it said my hardware wasn't capable of Unity? But I don't see why it wouldn't
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> flametai1:  you need your 3d drivers for your video card
[18:42] <flametai1> Dr_Willis, Aaaaaaaaaaaah okay, I was unsure if I did or not considering Compiz ran without it
[18:42] <necreo> Dr_Willis: doesn't really work nicely with chrome but ok
[18:42] <nyquist333> Dr_Willis - Will my compiz settings work if I upgrade to 11.04?
[18:42] <necreo> thanks
[18:42] <rumpe1> cucujoidea, it's much easier to just boot from it
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> flametai1:  unity uses compiz.. unity-2d does not.
[18:43] <middle> HELP: When i boot into Ubuntu it hangs on: 'Begin: Running /scripts/init-bottom .. done.'. I was previously suffering Black screen issues so i uninstalled Ati's proprietry driver and now after re installing it, it is hanging not even reaching the black screen stage. Thanks
[18:43] <cucujoidea> rumpel: does that allow an upgrade without complete reinstall?
[18:43] <Vustom> 11.4 scared me at first, but I'm starting to like it. :3
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> nyquist333:  some compiz settings can break unity it seems.
[18:43] <mikebeecham> unity is not worth the hassle
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> complaining about unity is not worth the hassle. :)
[18:43] <A_J> DasEi: does after installing pae a reboot required
[18:43] <middle> Oh yeah and if i upgrade will it insall unity?
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> middle:  yes it will.
[18:44] <nyquist333> I don't understand, if I use GNOME will my compiz settings be there? Or would unity change them.
[18:44] <middle> ah maybe i shan't upgrade then
[18:44] <Vustom> If you don't like Unity just switch to Ubuntu classic..
[18:44] <Vustom> -.-'
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> nyquist333:  thers only one set of compiz settings.. so yes. one would affect the other I think.
[18:44] <ubuntu_user> is there anybody who could help a new one
[18:44] <DasEi> A_J: yes, to avoid such, checkout ksplice
[18:44] <A_J> !ksplice
[18:44] <nyquist333> Dr_Willis - So, after upgrading, I should disable unity?
[18:44] <nit-wit> middle, can you get in with low graphics mode
[18:44] <Nickname_> no
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> nyquist333:  if you dont want it.. select the classic desktop
[18:45] <A_J> whats that DasEi
[18:45] <rumpe1> nyquist333, if you want to be sure: just backup your compiz-config (located in $HOME/.compiz)
[18:45] <Nickname_> switch desktops but keep checking updates
[18:45] <dncrash> i think i tried to run unity 2d with compiz because now i have no titlebars on windows and no taskbar. any way to reset unity to default ?
[18:45] <nit-wit> dncrash, did you modify compiz
[18:45] <nyquist333> I'm trying 11.04 in a VM first, and I've backed up my base system.
[18:45] <ubuntu_user> fuck
[18:45] <NyvenZA> dncrash: i tink unity --reset
[18:46] <middle> nit-wit: No im trying to boot in safe mode and it just hangs at the afformentioned command. there is occasionally other stuff after it like [4.7993847] firewire etc... but no it won't progress
[18:46] <NyvenZA> but I had no luck with that
[18:46] <mrdat> MacUbuntu 11.04
[18:46] <IdleOne> ubuntu_user: no swearing please
[18:46] <dncrash> modify it ? no, how could i modify it. thanks nyvenZA
[18:46] <eigba_> dncrash, I did the same thing, what i did was delete the config files from my home direcotry to fix it
[18:46] <Jot> Difficult question: how can I change resolution in ubuntu 11.04?
[18:46] <tully-> how do you enable remote desktop on natty from the command line? can you still use gconftool-2?
[18:46] <A_J> DasEi: kslice is paid :\
[18:46] <dncrash> ty, i'll try that too
[18:46] <NyvenZA> dncrash: that serts all settings
[18:47] <A_J> brb, reboot
[18:47] <Vustom> Anyone know how to enable the new scrollbars in Firefox?
[18:47] <ScottONanski> mamma say... mamma saw... mamma ma koo saw.
[18:47] <progre55> hey guys. A friend has installed ubuntu using the windows installed (wubi, or what was that) and now I'm about to install him natty from a disc. But I dont see the ubuntu partition. How do I delete/uninstall/remove the previous installation?
[18:47] <middle> I am thinking of booting intoa live disc and re-uninstalling the drivers
[18:47] <Cryp71c> Is there any plan for an official package for gnome3 in Ubuntu, since Unity is the default now?
[18:47] <DasEi> A_J: it's in repo and can be used free
[18:47] <DasEi> !info ksplice
[18:47] <eigba_> dncrash, I deleted the .gnome2, gconf, and gconfd file lol it fixed it for me
[18:47] <progre55> installer*
[18:47] <Nickname_> nice website for noobies & pros webupd8
[18:47] <maco> progre55: wubi doesnt install to a partition, so there isn't one
[18:47] <arnab> how can i check the 3d performance?
[18:47] <maco> progre55: his old ubuntu is just a very very large file on the windows partition
[18:47] <progre55> maco: so how do I remove it?
[18:48] <subcool> back
[18:48] <subcool> ok- so.. anyone?
[18:48] <DasEi> arnab: triplegears
[18:48] <dncrash> ty eigba. if unity --reset doesn't work i'll delete those files
[18:48] <maco> progre55: same way you remove any program in windows, the add/remove applications window
[18:48] <progre55> maco: oh I see, so is that okay if I just delete it?
[18:48] <arnab> thanks
[18:48] <progre55> swell
[18:48] <scorch2> ok my computer is broken.  an some one help please
[18:48] <progre55> maco: thanks
[18:48] <maco> progre55: np
[18:48] <karth> upgraded to 11.04 on virtualbox, got guest additions installed. My unity icons appear to be scaled 32x32 icons, and all the fonts are blocky. anyone else run into this?
[18:48] <TheHackOps> goodnight people
[18:49] <andromeda> #ubuntu
[18:49] <mintux> I have problem when I record desktop with gtk-recordmydesktop and compiz cube .what should I do?
[18:49] <TheHackOps> mintux, tell us the problem
[18:49] <arnab> can't find the tripple gears
[18:49] <TheHackOps> lol
[18:49] <scorch2> help please any.  i had to restart becausw install froze.  now system wont boot
[18:49] <mintux> the effect when I rotate cube has problem when record my desktop
[18:49] <cablop> exit
[18:49] <TheHackOps> scorch2, Re-do the install
[18:49] <IdleOne> scorch2: restart the install
[18:50] <navalis> Dear All, good Day. Did anyone experienced, that after upgrade to 11.02 the system not halting down? Freezes with dark monitor? but sys.block remains working.\
[18:50] <scorch2> ho?
[18:50] <scorch2> how?
[18:50] <rumpe1> mintux, which problem exactly? (check your log files)
[18:50] <middle> PROBLEM: Was suffering a black screen on boot > Uninstalled Ati Drivers > Rebooted > Re-Installed Ati Drivers > Rebooted > System hangs at 'Begin: RUnning /scripts/init-bottom ... done.'
[18:50] <andromeda> Hi question if I have 11.04 beat do I need to to something to jump to final release???? thx
[18:50] <scorch2> my computer wont boot now
[18:50] <Cryp71c> Anyone? 11.04 + Gnome3?
[18:50] <A_J> DasEi: Kspice is A Paid app ?
[18:50] <popey> !gnome3 | Cryp71c
[18:50] <TheHackOps> Scorch2, PM
[18:50] <johanhar> Help, where is compiz :S I installed 11.04
[18:50] <rumpe1> andromeda, no, just update
[18:50] <tim> Having trouble upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04.  How can I resolve error "Failed to fetch http://..." Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.canonical.com:http' (-5 No address associated with hostname)?
[18:50] <mintux> the movie has leap when I rotate desktop in output movie
[18:50] <johanhar> How can I find out what window manager is currently active??
[18:50] <Cryp71c> popey: who'se working on those experimental packages? Is there any hope for them to eventually become stable?
[18:51] <popey> mintux: sadly a flaw with recordmydesktop
[18:51] <andromeda> rumpe1, THX! that what I thought !
[18:51] <arnab> how do i find out how much space is being used?
[18:51] <johanhar> How can I find out what window manager is currently active??
[18:51] <popey> Cryp71c: click the link and you can see the team responsible
[18:51] <STALKER> there is a girl with whom you can learn !!!!!!!!!???????????
[18:51] <wad> Any of you guys know what I need to enable in the CompizConfig Settings Manager in order to be able to resize windows once again?
[18:51] <DasEi> A_J: what do you mean with paid ? free to use
[18:51] <popey> mintux: recordmydesktop isn't very good at recording 3d stuff
[18:51] <subcool> Can someone please tell me why this commond: /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0 " out offhttp://www.kubuntuguide.info/index.php/Maverick#X11VNC_Server creates a vncserver loop?
[18:52] <mintux> popey: so what should I do?
[18:52] <A_J> DasEi: on the website says paid, can i have a link please, or a terminal
[18:52] <DasEi> !info ksplice
[18:52] <johanhar> How can I find out what window manager is currently active??
[18:52] <mintux> I have pretension about linux and 3d desktop at university
[18:52] <popey> mintux: i run natty in a vm and use ffmpeg to record rather than recordmydesktop
[18:52] <popey> mintux: do it live rather than recorded :)
[18:53] <mbeierl> subcool: is there already a display running on ":0" ?
[18:53] <mintux> not working when I input video projector compiz doesn't show
[18:53] <STALKER> is a girl?
[18:53] <rubydiamond> Guys what should be the 'gateway' and 'dns-nameservers' in /etc/network/interfaces .. if there is none
[18:53] <middle> I am goign to have to go to the forums to get an answer to this aren't i XD
[18:53] <mintux> I tried it before
[18:53] <IdleOne> STALKER: do you have a support wuestion related to Ubuntu?
[18:53] <IdleOne> question*
[18:53] <rumpe1> johanhar, ps x
[18:53] <karth> Anyone have any thoughts on fixing all of unity looking really blocky?
[18:53] <A_J> som1 apt-get for ksplice
[18:54] <mbeierl> rubydiamond: that unfortunately depends on your ISP or network provider.
[18:54] <subcool> mbeierl, idk
[18:54] <A_J> nvm got it
[18:54] <STALKER> IdleOne No
[18:54] <A_J> ty DasEi for the name of the program
[18:54] <subcool> mbeierl, how would i find out?
[18:54] <rubydiamond> mbeierl: from where can I read it
[18:54] <mbeierl> subcool: try changing :0 to :1
[18:54] <rubydiamond> mbeierl: I have a linode slic
[18:54] <Einis> Sup guys, how is 11.04?
[18:54] <johanhar> different
[18:54] <raven_> 11.04 how to cange to gnome 3.0?
[18:54] <IdleOne> STALKER: then please don't ask if there are any girls here. This is not a dating service.
[18:54] <johanhar> dont like it :D
[18:54] <johanhar> compiz is gone
[18:54] <A_J> Einis: good
[18:54] <johanhar> i had it all set up
[18:54] <Einis> Hmm yeah
[18:55] <middle> Hmm wierd... rebooted twice and it works : S
[18:55] <FloodBot1> johanhar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:55] <DasEi> A_J: np, have less reboots ;)
[18:55] <Einis> I had a feeling it would be
[18:55] <A_J> what is Compiz ?
[18:55] <keithtoo1> rubydiamond: gateway and dns servers are usually listed on your router/modem config screen
[18:55] <mbeierl> rubydiamond: I cannot answer where as it comes from your network.  Do you use DHCP or is your address statically assigned?
[18:55] <A_J> DasEi: how do i reboot the terminal but, what command ?
[18:55] <DasEi> !info compiz | A_J
[18:55] <johanhar> A_J: my window manager
[18:55] <rubydiamond> :)
[18:55] <DasEi> A_J: sudo reboot
[18:55] <mbeierl> keithtoo1: thanks... I suddenly have to run, can you continue with rubydiamond, please?
[18:55] <rubydiamond> mbeierl: dhcp
[18:55] <keithtoo1> sure - I love networking problems
[18:56] <A_J> okie ty DasEi
[18:56] <STALKER> IdleOne Who are you and where you live
[18:56] <subcool> brb- lol- Thanks mbeierl; ill be back if it doesnt work
[18:56] <IdleOne> STALKER: I am IdleOne, where I live is not Ubuntu support related.
[18:56] <IdleOne> !ot > STALKER
[18:56] <Lopyshok> people help me ... no ssound ;((((]
[18:56] <middle> and now i reboot and nada.....
[18:57] <raven_> 11.04 how to cange to gnome 3.0?
[18:57] <popey> !gnome3 | raven_
[18:57] <Lopyshok> people help me ... no ssound ;((((]
[18:57] <middle> turn your speakers on
[18:57] <Lopyshok> how i can start
[18:57] <middle> press the button
[18:57] <IdleOne> !sound > Lopyshok
[18:58] <Wolfsherz> Lopyshok: repeating your request wont get you help faster...
[18:58] <mar7ar> hi, does anyone knows how install glge to enable webgl on ubuntu?????????????,
[18:58] <raven_> popey, possible to get my panels back with unity?
[18:58] <popey> raven_: you can logon to classic mode instead, choose that at the logon screen
[18:58] <STALKER> IdleOne I listened to you Russian where you live? just wondering
[18:58] <IdleOne> raven_: yes, logout and select Ubuntu Classic at the login screen
[18:58] <tim> Having trouble upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04.  How can I resolve error "Failed to fetch http://..." Something wicked happened resolving 'archive.canonical.com:http' (-5 No address associated with hostname)?
[18:58] <johanhar> Unity: where is the good old menu with preferences etc+
[18:58] <raven_> IdleOne, popey ok tnx
[18:58] <IdleOne> STALKER: Please stop asking where people live.
[18:59] <popey> johanhar: top right of the screen, bottom of the menu under the power button
[18:59] <IdleOne> STALKER: if you feel like chatting please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:59] <_cory> Yo, does anyone know how to pull back up a window that has been minimized with 11.04?  Xchat wants to open a new instance every time I click it...
[18:59] <Nickname_> lopyshok run alsamixer and check cards (sometimes uses wrong one)
[18:59] <johanhar> popey: thx
[18:59] <A_J> DasEi: sudo reboot causing normal reboot
[18:59] <DasEi> yes
[18:59] <wipmonkey> I keep hoping kubuntu will get better so I can switch to that..
[18:59] <mattyh88> hey, can't i choose a belgian azerty keyboard with an english installation for ubuntu server?
[19:00] <_cory> kubuntu seems clunky and slow for me compared to ubuntu.  I'm having some difficulties getting used to the new interface tho
[19:00] <IdleOne> wipmonkey: get the kubuntu live cd and try it out.
[19:00] <nyquist333> Ok, this is not cool. Can I safely remove zeitgeist and still have 11.04 work properly?
[19:00] <DasEi> mattyh88: can
[19:00] <johanhar> I enabled a plugin in compiz and unity collapsed :S
[19:00] <DasEi> mattyh88: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[19:00] <wad> So I fiddled with the CompizConfig Settings Manager settings a little bit, and managed to get kind of messed up. Is there any way to reset all of these things to their defaults?
[19:01] <dob_> support?
[19:01] <IdleOne> dob_: ask
[19:01] <mattyh88> i see okay, but at installation .. i choose my location & the language i wish to install ubuntu in
[19:01] <mattyh88> but now i get a list to choose a keyboard layout from but azerty isn't listed
[19:01] <Chilaquiles> anybody here that uses clutterflow in Nautilus that can help me please?
[19:02] <scorch2> l
[19:02] <A_J> DasEi: well ? any idea's.. sudo reboot causin a normal rebbot
[19:02] <botcity> wad ccsm >> preferences >> reset
[19:02] <middle> Is there anyone here who is an expert on teh Ubuntu boot procedure?
[19:02] <dob_> i am running my system via rescue cd now when accessing my software raid devices after some time i get this error: ata1: hard resetting link .....
[19:02] <DasEi> mattyh88: the whole installation is complete with repos first, not all language fits on the cd
[19:02] <tim> No one willing or able to help?
[19:02] <Oday> how do i use "SCP" if the source is my machine's home folder, and the destination is a server's root home folder?
[19:02] <Jot> I can't set proper resolution and refresh rate, ubuntu doesn't recognize my screen so I can select screen default resolution and refresh rate
[19:02] <DasEi> A_J: what do yozu want to restart ? x ?
[19:02] <wad> botcity: Thanks!
[19:03] <demlasjr> hello. I need some help if somebody can help me please. I'm trying to connect to my wireless network but I can't make it working with WPA2 Personal. Please help
[19:03] <dob_> after a restart it sometimes works and sometimes not
[19:03] <A_J> umm, the termminal
[19:03] <Aer> Hi, just have a quick question if no one minds :) I dual boot Ubuntu 10.4 with Windows XP and from all the updates my grub menu has got quite long now lol
[19:03] <Aer> is there an easy way to clean up my grub menu and remove old kernels I no longer need to save space and shorten the grub list ?
[19:03] <gabriel___> too bad it would be tiring and take a while to take screenshots of my compiz settings and send them to you. There is need of a way to save a compiz profile and include extensions like emerald
[19:03] <mersault> Anyone tried to get Natty to install inside of a Xen HVM domU? I'm having problems wherein it can't find the NIC or the HD, but with 10.04 the same config works fine.
[19:03] <DasEi> A_J: close and reopen ? makes no sense, or the desktop (aka x ?)
[19:04] <Jot> can anybody here help me? I have been looking for solution for 2 days, I don't even wanna know how long it takes to set more advanced options ...
[19:04] <middle> nvm i googl-fe'd it
[19:04] <darkargon> hello
[19:04] <gabriel___> sry, that last was in response to <johanhar> I enabled a plugin in compiz and unity collapsed :S
[19:04] <Nickname_> WPA  can be issue with some wireless,  test without security then wep   if ok the software issue
[19:04] <_cory> Jot: what is your problem?
[19:04] <zvacet> Aer: in synaptic search box type linux-image and remove these with lower number it is good to have 2 kernels just in case
[19:04] <gabriel___> hello dark inert gass
[19:05] <ahayzen> Hi upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 via LiveCD .. all going well..but now it has stopped at 'Restoring Previously Installed Packages' ... there is no activity on the HDD or CD ..but the network like does seem to be active .. is this an issue or do i just have to wait???
[19:05] <demlasjr> somebody can help me please ? :)
[19:05] <Aer> i already tried that zvacet :s then i ran soemthign like "sudo update-grub2"
[19:05] <Aer> and restarted and nothing changed :(
[19:05] <_cory> demlasjr: Try asking your question first
[19:05] <Jot> _cory: I can't select default screen resolution and refresh rate in x server nvidia settings
[19:05] <dob_> can somebody help me?
[19:05] <botcity> gabriel___, can you access ccsm
[19:05] <A_J> DasEi: u said ksplice will not make me reboot that much.. how do i do a hot reboot. cause sudo reboot is a normal reboot
[19:05] <demlasjr> _cory I already asked :) I need some help if somebody can help me please. I'm trying to connect to my wireless network but I can't make it working with WPA2 Personal. Please help
[19:05] <Froq> HELLO!!! I am new here.
[19:05] <bp0> how do I remove ubuntu one?
[19:06] <gabriel___> don't even know what it is... botcity
[19:06] <_cory> jot: so you have proprietary nvidia drivers installed?
[19:06] <Nickname_> demlasjr WPA  can be issue with some wireless,  test without security then wep   if ok the software issue
[19:06] <Aer> should i not use "sudo update-grub2" after removeing old kernels ?
[19:06] <zvacet> Aer: if you removed kernels it must be change in grub command is sudo update-grub
[19:06] <Jot> _cory: max res and refresh rate I can set is 1152x864 60Hz
[19:06] <Dr_Willis> Oday:  i always have to google for scp examples.  its somthing liek scp user@host:/home/username otheruser@otherhost:/path/to/go
[19:06] <_cory> demlasjr: ah sorry I missed it.  What type of error are you getting?
[19:06] <Aer> ok thanks
[19:06] <darkargon> i also upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and now my internet connections is very very slow, can someone help me?
[19:06] <Aer> ill try it now
[19:06] <Jot> _cory: screen default is 75Hz 1280x1024
[19:06] <sec_goat> is the a command from terminal to see network activity on ubuntu 10.04
[19:06] <gabriel___> botcity pm me k this is confusing for me... thanks
[19:06] <Nickname_> I have same problem with a couple of wifi stcks, where another will work
[19:07] <JediMaster> hi guys, since upgrading to natty from maverick my dns server has stopped working, I'm running maradns, which runs fine from the command line but the /etc/init.d/maradns script produces no output at all (and returns 0 from $?) yet it doesn't run, nothing at all in syslog, any ideas? (Yes, I've checked there's no /etc/init/maradns.conf file)
[19:07] <Dr_Willis> Aer:  i think grub gets updated automatically after you remove them.
[19:07] <Jot> _cory: yes I have nvidia drivers installed
[19:07] <_cory> jot: ah so ubuntu is outputting a higher res then your monitors will display?
[19:07] <IceTrAiN> Hi folks..  is there anywhere else that Enable3Button for mouse is listed?? It's not located in my xorg.conf
[19:07] <demlasjr> _cory: No error, it's like I'm typing the wrong password. the network was hidden and I changed it to visible, but same problem. It's a problem as Nickname_ said ?
[19:07] <Aer> hmm ok
[19:07] <_raven_> how to record sound card output?
[19:07] <DasEi> A_J: once you set up ksplice properly, there is no more reboot needed for kernelupdates, a reboot is a reboot, cold would mean "pull the powerline" (don't do that)
[19:07] <Aer> ill give it another try then
[19:07] <johanhar> I cant configure the launcher. System settings -> launcher : gives only a little popup box where to point my mouse when to open it
[19:07] <mordof> great.. emesene no longer shows up in Unity - is there a way to change that?
[19:07] <Jot> _cory: nope, opposite
[19:08] <A_J> DasEi: how do i set up ksplice
[19:08] <_Neytiri_> is there a way i can disable the history -c command so users cant clear there history
[19:08] <geekyogi> I did a foolish thing.. I installed linux kernel of server on desktop.. and now I don't even get the login screen
[19:08] <nastjuid> I switched my desktop switching method to Desktop Cube, and chose yes to enable opengl, and the other windows that popped up, but I"ve lost my window borders and can no longer move or resize windows. Setting things back in ccsm does not fix this. any ideas?
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> _Neytiri_:  proberly not. they could always just delete the .history file.
[19:08] <botcity> compizconfig settings manager in ubuntu software centre which manager are you using ?
[19:08] <geekyogi> any suggesions, to start using the old kernel
[19:08] <_Neytiri_> no i have that append only
[19:08] <_cory> demlasjr: Yeah I've had similar issues in the past.  I can't remember what I did to fix it tho lol.  I want to say I tried changing to a different type of security, have you tried that?  Or would it be too big of a hassle for the other users?
[19:08] <Jot> _cory: I used to work on 1280x1024, 80 Hz on windows with this screen
[19:08] <nastjuid> botcity: was that to me?
[19:09] <DasEi> A_J: http://www.ksplice.com/uptrack/using
[19:09] <mordof> i took emesene off of unity, but i want it to show again - anyone know how to re-enable that?
[19:09] <botcity> nastjuid,  no sorry
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> _Neytiri_:  theres a limit to that size of the file. they could just write till its hit its limit i guess.. I dont see the point in this task really...
[19:09] <mordof> even when i open it as a task, it's not showing anymore
[19:09] <_cory> jot: have you tried setting your res to auto?
[19:09] <engammalsko> My update manager froze when trying to upgrade to 11.04
[19:09] <demlasjr> _cory I can try it. Maybe WPA will be ok....I don't want to change to WEP because I have some which will love to use my network :D
[19:09] <Jot> _cory: sure, auto res is 1024x764
[19:10] <Jot> _cory: ubuntu doesn't recognize my screen
[19:10] <_cory> demlasjr: Yea try that and see if that works
[19:10] <zvacet> geekyogi:  install it from synaptic and boot in it when you see grub
[19:10] <Aer> ok i just removed the older kernels is there a command I can use to view my grub list without having to restart ?
[19:10] <nastjuid> ah, sweet got the defaults back
[19:10] <IceTrAiN> Hi folks..  is there anywhere else that Enable3Button for mouse is listed?? It's not located in my xorg.conf
[19:10] <popey> Aer: sudo update-grub should list them
[19:11] <geekyogi> zvacet, I'm unable to get synapic
[19:11] <Aer> ok thanks
[19:11] <_cory> jot: hmm, yea the nvidia x server settings doesn't recongize mine either.  But it does detect the correct res.  What happens when you goto monitor preferences?
[19:11] <engammalsko> So, anyone knwo why update manager froze when upgrading to 11.04?
[19:11] <_cory> jot: ubuntu's monitor preferences not nvidias
[19:11] <A_J> DasEi: looks complicated will see later, thank you for all your help good nite mate
[19:11] <geekyogi> I would like to remove the newer installed kernel.. and start using the previous kernel
[19:11] <Aer> it worked thanks guys :)
[19:11] <engammalsko> Is there an alterive update?
[19:11] <DasEi> :)
[19:11] <Harkins> is it possible to reinstall to a broken system without wiping /home?
[19:11] <sernylan> Is there a way to determine what build options were used in an ubuntu package?
[19:11] <Tetsuo55> is there any way to display the wire-less connection quality in unity? gnome used to show signal strenght when hovering over the icon
[19:11] <zvacet> geekyogi:  witch version do you run and did you upgrade or it is fresh install
[19:11] <mordof> anyone know why a program that's currently open won't shwo up in unity?
[19:12] <A_J> nn all and ty DasEi
[19:12] <ChessTeach> i want to set up raid0 on my computer, but I couldn't find the option in BIOS. It is a brand new computer, do some newer computers not support RAID?
[19:12] <vheg> good evening - can i get help here? My system dosn't have a boot menue after update to 11.04
[19:12] <l8a> Good evening. I joined ubuntu from xp. All went fine, there is only one problem. I dont find something like (unter xp) the "minimal battery power","desktop" etc shemas. Have ubuntu nothing like that? My cpu getting to hot sometimes; under xp i just use "minimal battery.." shema and all goes fine, but under ubuntu I did not find something like that (to make cpu cooler (slower)).
[19:12] <Psychobudgie> mordof, I had the same issue yesterday with xchat
[19:12] <geekyogi> it was an upgrade.. everything on 11.04 was working fine.. to my mischief.. I installed kernel 2.6.38 server edition.. and now I don't even see the login screen !zvacet
[19:13] <mordof> Psychobudgie: did you manage to figure it out?
[19:13] <Tangaroa> ChessTeach: You might need to look into software RAID if you don't have a RAID controller.
[19:13] <Psychobudgie> mordof, icon dissapears and can only open it with alt-tab. Report it as a bug
[19:13] <mordof> Psychobudgie: i have several bugs to report, i don't know where to report them
[19:13] <Psychobudgie> mordof, Only fix I found was to restart unity
[19:13] <mordof> Psychobudgie: how do i do that?
[19:13] <Jot> _cory: I have an option to set 1280x1024 res in ubuntu monitor preferences but when I select it and try to apply it it says it's not possible
[19:13] <engammalsko> Hi, I can't install ubuntu 11.04 with update manager. Can anyone help me?
[19:13] <stefg> ChessTeach: you can (and should) use software raid (mdadm). the real question is: why would you want it?
[19:13] <ChessTeach> Tangaroa: do my sata hard drives need to be in consecutive slots? one is in slot 1, and the other 3
[19:13] <ChessTeach> stefg: speed
[19:13] <Psychobudgie> mordof : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs
[19:14] <nit-wit> engammalsko, what is happening?
[19:14] <Psychobudgie> mordof : read that, it's pretty straight forward
[19:14] <Tangaroa> ChessTeach: I don't know. Sorry.
[19:14] <mordof> Psychobudgie: kk,, how do i restart unity?
[19:14] <engammalsko> nit-wit: My updata manager froze.
[19:14] <zvacet> geekyogi: why server kernel if you use desktop
[19:14] <l8a> is there no way to limit the cpu under ubuntu (its a mobile cpu)?
[19:14] <merlot> anyone know how to switch the default desktop from kdm to gdm?
[19:15] <nit-wit> engammalsko, could you extrapolate what froze means when how and where.
[19:15] <Psychobudgie> mordof, I just logged out and back in
[19:15] <stefg> ChessTeach: no gains to be expected. Transfer rate is nothing versus access time. This won't help. all you get is a statistically doubled risk of data loss
[19:15] <demlasjr> I think I need modem reset...brb
[19:15] <karth> unity looks terrible. gigantic icons, very blocky. anyone else see this?
[19:15] <Harkins> anyone really familiar with grub? Any idea what device.map is supposed to contain if grub whines about not "finding a GRUB drive for /dev/mapper/sda5_crypt"?
[19:15] <engammalsko> nit-wit: I turns grey and it's not responsing. So I need to kill the updata manager process.
[19:15] <Psychobudgie> mordof, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xchat-gnome/+bug/772524
[19:15] <engammalsko> nit-wit: Can i upgrade with shell?
[19:15] <zvacet> karth: all the time  :(
[19:16] <Psychobudgie> mordof, does that sound familiar?
[19:16] <vanguard> is there some easy way to copy data via ftp with a script (like on does with cp or rsync)
[19:16] <karth> zvacet: anything that can be done about it?
[19:16] <nit-wit> engammalsko, so your in the process of upgrading and the screen has greyed out is the copputer froze altigether
[19:16] <lgp171188> hi all, I am using gwibber in natty and added google buzz account, but the statuses aren't fetched and the timeline remains blank. Any clues?
[19:17] <stefg> ChessTeach: rather look into lvm... you can still stripe volumes over physicl disks, but the real adavntage is manageability
[19:17] <flametai1> Can somneone help me? I clicked on some house icon and now no window has a frigin bar to click on to move it around?
[19:17] <zvacet> karth: I would like to know too just decrease icon size will be good
[19:17] <flametai1> -.-||
[19:17] <engammalsko> nit-wit: Just the program forze. Not the computer.
[19:17] <vheg> no one that can help me? If i boot my system, the screen shows: "out of screen" ??
[19:17] <ChessTeach> stefg: really it won't help much? is that because i am not able to do the raid through the bios?
[19:18] <perlsyntax> How do i get a dell Truemobile 1150 to work on ubuntu 11.04 it try to connect then it deconnect for some reason?
[19:18] <nit-wit> engammalsko, have hyou downloaded the changes and it is in the install portion, or the download?
[19:18] <karth> zvacet: yeah, if it would just not try to scale that would be fine
[19:18] <DrShoggoth> so yeah,  unity sure is somthing...
[19:18] <Tangaroa> I want to temporarily switch a wireless pc from dyn to static IP. Killing dhclient also shut down the wireless connection, and something respawned the dhclient process. What is going on behind the scenes, and how do I give my computer a static IP if ifconfig & iwconfig & killall dhclient won't do it?
[19:18] <perlsyntax> anyone know how to get a Truemobile 1150 to work in ubuntu?
[19:19] <ScottONanski> How do I edit the Unity menu bar? I'm trying to drag other folders from my Home directory to it, but no dice.
[19:19] <Acriax> Hi, I'm about to install the latest Ubuntu as a virtual machine on my 64 bit windows 7 computer. Should I install the 64-bit or 32-bit version of Ubuntu? Is 64-bit as stable as 32? I'm just looking for what would be fastest and most stable.
[19:19] <perlsyntax> ?
[19:20] <Belinrahs> Acriax: 64 is as stable as 32, it's what I use, never an issue
[19:20] <zvacet> karth: I don´t know any thing about unity customization it will be nice to have some link
[19:20] <nit-wit> Acriax, try both and let us klnow.:)
[19:20] <nit-wit> *know
[19:20] <TimeDude> Ac
[19:20] <demlasjr> _cory ?
[19:20] <Acriax> Belinrahs okay thank you :)
[19:20] <perlsyntax> anyone know how to get truemobile to work in ubuntu?
[19:20] <TimeDude> 32 for windows 64 for mac
[19:20] <demlasjr> I start to reconnect and the network connection button dissapeared
[19:20] <Acriax> nit-wit I'll start out with 64-bit. :)
[19:20] <TimeDude> mac has bigger cpu
[19:20] <demlasjr> how to add it back ?
[19:20] <Toph> is the only reason one would go 64 bit is to address more ram?
[19:21] <txomon> Toph, more efficiency also
[19:21] <TimeDude> ac 64 is more powerfull but it is ram consuming
[19:21] <Mac_Weber> is there any way to install tomcat7 using apt-get?
[19:21] <stefg> ChessTeach: bios raid or (proper) mdadm raid is actually the same, only the means are different (the CPU is doing the processing anyway). Bios raid is for dumb OS's which don't have software raid, you don't need that in linux. But either way: raid0 on desktop systems isn't worth it. you pay a price for nothing. you might get a bit more transfer rate, but the real limiting factor is access...
[19:21] <stefg> ...time. consider a SSD if you are a speed junky
[19:21] <Toph> txomon,,, i see
[19:21] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to get a truwmobile 1150 pc card to work???
[19:21] <mayank_k> Guys, I just upgraded to 11.04 and the wireless stopped working. Can somebody please help me with this?
[19:21] <zvacet> Acriax:  no need for 64 in vm only if you can give more then 3GB ram to vm
[19:21] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, have you looked at the additional drivers in the menu?
[19:21] <Acriax> TimeDude yes I figured as much. Wonder if there even are any benefits in using 64-bit on a vm though
[19:21] <TimeDude> who here loves the terminal in mac/ubuntu
[19:22] <TimeDude> ME1
[19:22] <TimeDude> ME!
[19:22] <perlsyntax> nit-wit,You mean the hardware driver
[19:22] <perlsyntax> i try that
[19:22] <Acriax> zvacet but I have more than 3gb available for the vm :)
[19:22] <TimeDude> no terminal the app bash or shell
[19:22] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, says additional drivers in mine
[19:22] <txomon> Toph, but it is a problem for packages, most of them are done for 32 bits
[19:22] <zvacet> Acriax:  ok then get 64
[19:22] <perlsyntax> it have not been working from 9.10 ubuntu and up.
[19:22] <TimeDude> ac go to 32
[19:23] <Toph> txomon,,, till now, i have always avoided 64 bit
[19:23] <facelessloser> hi has anyone tryed to install klibido under ubuntu 11.04
[19:23] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, yeah yours sounded familiar.:)
[19:23] <thejonb> anybody else having trouble connecting to repos in maverick?
[19:23] <perlsyntax> i think it odd
[19:23] <_cory> demlasjr: Hey did that work for you?  I went afk for a min
[19:23] <Tangaroa> mayank: Anything in your dmesg? You might also need to reinstall the firmware
[19:23] <perlsyntax> nit-wit,You know how to fix it?
[19:23] <rafael> hello, I have posted the following post in ubuntuforum, can anybody help me with this matter> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353
[19:24] <flametai1> Can somneone help me? I clicked on some house icon and now no window has a frigin bar to click on to move it around?
[19:24] <txomon> Toph, depending of what you are going to use the computer, maybe, looking forward compability, stay in 32bit
[19:24] <perlsyntax> if i am right i need the lan-ng fireware
[19:24] <Tetsuo55> help the left launcher bar wont go away
[19:24] <Tetsuo55> what can i do
[19:24] <velcroshooz> thejonb, if its just slow, its the traffic the mirrors are getting hit with since 11.04 was released.
[19:24] <stefg> ChessTeach: rather do a clever partition layout and use lvm. having /var and / on different spindles helps a lot
[19:24] <Toph> txomon,,, in what way is 64 bit more efficient?
[19:24] <mayank_k> The "enable wireless" option is dithered, how can i get it enabled
[19:24] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, what OS are you running?
[19:24] <Barsuk> Hi.
[19:24] <zvacet> thejonb: servers are hot maybe try different server
[19:24] <TimeDude> toph usally if u get a ubuntu app they are a very broad app and they probally do 64
[19:24] <Barsuk> Which video converter is the best for Ubuntu?
[19:24] <perlsyntax> ubuntu 11.04
[19:25] <karth> zvacet: installed compizconfig-settings-manager, and changed the icons from 48 to 32... not blocky anymore
[19:25] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, did you find additional drivers?
[19:25] <thejonb> :velcroshooz  that's what i figured.  tried installing 11.04 last night and hated it, so now i'm setting up 10.10 again.  can't install any software because i can't connect to repos ha
[19:25] <demlasjr> _cory it's not working :(
[19:25] <perlsyntax> i not sure what driver i need.
[19:25] <karth> zvacet: now I just have to figure out how to get the fonts to not look like... uh. crap.
[19:25] <stefg> Barsuk: i'm tempted to give you the !best factoid, but in this particular case handbrake wins hands down
[19:25] <cbx333> hey guys
[19:26] <Barsuk> Which video converter is the best for Ubuntu?
[19:26] <cbx333> where did handbrake go :(
[19:26] <stefg> !best | barsuk
[19:26] <txomon> Toph, in every way, the only way it is not, is when you dont have a program for 64 bits (few ones, but could be)
[19:26] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, additional drivers would tell you if one is found to be available for install
[19:26] <zvacet> karth: so I have to use compiz for that?
[19:26] <TimeDude> lol
[19:26] <TimeDude> i just reallized
[19:26] <Barsuk> ubottu, so which converter are you using?
[19:26] <TimeDude> i can acsess anyones computer
[19:26] <perlsyntax> But what driver do i neeed that question.
[19:26] <Toph> txomon,,, ok,, i didn't realize that
[19:26] <cpgeek> Upgrading to 11.04 broke my ability to compile the vmmon vmware module for vmware server. Any ideas?
[19:27] <LAcan> cpgeek, ya go back to 10.10 :)
[19:27] <demlasjr> can somebody help me to make my wireless network functional please ?
[19:27] <LAcan> demlasjr, whats up?
[19:27] <perlsyntax> nit-wit any ideas
[19:27] <zvacet> cpgeek: probably linux-headers
[19:27] <botcity> Tangaroa, nm-applet will restart services you stop !
[19:27] <velcroshooz> cpgeek, vmware usually has to put out updates for new kernels when they are released - my guess is they have not addressed the kernel in 11.04
[19:28] <demlasjr> I can't conenct to my network, I tried with WPA and WPa2...it's like when the key is wrong :( LAcan
[19:28] <thejonb> so someone suggested i change servers.  not sure how to do that.
[19:28] <karth> zvacet: compiz is required for unity. you have to go into the settings manager and you can change the icons to their actual size
[19:28] <LAcan> demlasjr, i think u have to use the hex key and not the plaintext pw
[19:28] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, yes and it starts with you actually reading what I have asked and answering it.:)
[19:28] <Belinrahs> I hate to ask but would someone look at my forum post and maybe make a suggestion? It's WiFi related
[19:28] <zvacet> karth : just a sec
[19:28] <demlasjr> LAcan that's one that I didn't tried yet :)
[19:28] <nit-wit> Belinrahs, link
[19:28] <karth> zvacet: apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager, run ccsm in terminal, in the filter, search for unity, go to experimental, and change launcher icon size from 48 to 32
[19:29] <perlsyntax> i did read it:)
[19:29] <lgp171188> Hi, I am using Ubuntu 11.04. I have nvidia proprietary drivers enabled and I use classic gnome. I have an issue where some times while placing the mouse over a button and trying to click it, it doesn't work as the focus is not correctly on the button. Has anyone faced such an issue?
[19:29] <Belinrahs> nit-wit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742650
[19:29] <varunvyas> HI all
[19:29] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, well read it again it is a question?
[19:29] <subcool_> can someone help me with y /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0 creates a loop
[19:29] <demlasjr> LAcan so I need to switch the password to hex, but then I need to add it normally or editing the file
[19:30] <perlsyntax> but how do i do that
[19:30] <demlasjr> LAcan I want to tell you that I have hex just for WEP, not WPA
[19:31] <perlsyntax> i told you i try that no drivers came up.
[19:31] <perlsyntax> that why i asking the question
[19:31] <nit-wit> perlsyntax, I dont have natty open right now but in the panel is a squarq with a + sign click it and search
[19:31] <varunvyas> when I upgreading to 11.04, it stuck at insalling upgrd
[19:31] <geekyogi> solved by modifyting the grub.cfg
[19:31] <perlsyntax> i give up
[19:32] <awhitehatter> the global menu is a little too OSX-ish, anyone else feel the same?
[19:32] <rafael> dear ralink: I have read your post and cannot help you
[19:32] <FFForever> Is there a simple way to kill unity and get gnome back?
[19:32] <nikolai`> FFForever, At the login screen, Select Ubuntu (Classic)
[19:32] <awhitehatter> FFForever, you can login with it
[19:32] <thejonb> i'm having trouble connecting to repos in maverick because of traffic i guess.  can anybody tell me how to change servers?
[19:32] <nikolai`> To set this as the login default, change the system menu
[19:32] <Nickname_> logout and change :)
[19:32] <FFForever> niko, O.o! Thanks :)
[19:32] <Belinrahs> nit-wit: I'm still on IRC so if you don't want to reply to the thread I can see you here
[19:32] <FFForever> unity is really nice, but it has some display issues with my screen
[19:32] <RussellAlan> what is the command in terminal to renamel a drive?
[19:32] <cormyn> I'm willing to give Unity a chance, but how do I add my toolbar widgets again, like my stock ticker and system monitoring?
[19:32] <RussellAlan> a media driver
[19:33] <rafael> will you please read mine, if you can help me: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743353
[19:33] <mayank_k> Can somebody please help me with my wireless network issue?
[19:33] <Tangaroa> botcity: thanks
[19:33] <alien-007> i can rip a movie at 37x speed but i can only burn at 2x,,why is that ?
[19:33] <sta11> I have a laptop with 2.0Ghz AMD and 1GB RAM, would you guys recommend me Ubuntu 11.04 for the laptop? I heard it slower than previous versions of Ubuntu
[19:34] <alien-007> no matter what program i use
[19:34] <mayank_k> It's not recognizing the networks after I upgraded to ubuntu 11.04
[19:34] <Tangaroa> alien: sounds like a hardware limitation. Reading and writing are different operations
[19:34] <FFForever> Thanks niko! I am in gnome again
[19:34] <nit-wit> Belinrahs, I looked I can't really tell what might be causing a freeze up sorry.
[19:34] <thejonb> stall:  i didn't find it to be slower.  it's just different.  if Unity slows you down, you can always do Unity 2-D or log in under the Ubuntu classic desktop
[19:34] <Belinrahs> nit-wit: Thank you all the same for looking! :)
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[19:35] <akashm1990> does anyone here play revenge of the titans?
[19:35] <ohsix> sta11: did you hear that from someone with your exact machine, and did he tell you all the circumstances that made it slower? if not, you weren't told much, and should just see for yourself
[19:35] <akashm1990> need some help installing it
[19:35] <alien-007> Tangaroa: ok thanks,,i guess i change to ligthscribe
[19:35] <alternate1> Yesterday 11.04 became offically stable correct? so why no alternate iso beyond April 26th
[19:35] <axl3> guys, check out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/773182    any help appreciated
[19:36] <FreeTheBee> akashm1990 I have it installed
[19:36] <akashm1990> FreeTheBee, PM?
[19:36] <FreeTheBee> haven't played more than a little bit
[19:36] <FreeTheBee> sure
[19:36] <sta11> thejonb About the 2D option, do I need to download Unity 2D manually after I install Ubuntu 11.04, or it is there by default?
[19:37] <user82> just 4 interest: is the natty boot time also significantly shorter than maverick ones on your computers
[19:37] <mattyh88> how can i change keyboard layout pls?
[19:37] <mattyh88> in ubuntu server
[19:37] <alternate1> why no ppc alternate after april 26th? every other architecture is up to date
[19:37] <DasEi> user82: yes, but the major jump was lucid
[19:37] <DasEi> (upstart)
[19:37] <RussellAlan> please someone help, how do i rename the sdcard /media
[19:37] <thejonb> stall:  you'll have to install it manually.  i don't know off hand how to do that, but a simple search on ubuntu forums should point you in the right direction
[19:38] <user82> okay..did not start with below lucid so i cannot tell but i read it
[19:38] <thejonb> ubuntuforums.org
[19:38] <arnab> what do i do to get a kde desktop? do i need to install kubuntu over the ubuntu?
[19:38] <user82> but for my netbook it made ~2/3 of the old time
[19:38] <^Spider^> hi!
[19:38] <Nickname_> just kde
[19:38] <DasEi> user82: the old sysinit was improved , so there is more in parallel going on at boot, that did the trick
[19:38] <axl3> arnab: kubuntu.sedktop
[19:39] <axl3> arnab: kubuntu-desktop
[19:39] <linuxtech> It seems ppa.launchpad.net not doing well under the load today.
[19:39] <tibrox> I'm using natty and mysql server can't start.  How do I fix this?
[19:39] <mattyh88> i'm using this sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup but I can't really change keyboard layout .. it's still qwerty .. and i need azerty
[19:39] <DasEi> user82: consider least lucid, if that's a factor for you, stable, less bugs, long supported
[19:39] <jester7> Hello all.  I have been using Natty Since the last alpha and just saw that the overlay scrollbars are now default, but not for me.  How do I turn this on?
[19:39] <thejonb> linuxtech: tell me about it.  i've been trying to install something via ppa for the last hour and i can't connect
[19:39] <arnab> ahh thanks!
[19:39] <tripelb> good morning.. just barely PDT. I've got basic ubuntu understanding problems.
[19:40] <tripelb> jester7 Natty is in another channel
[19:40] <ipo> hi , please help me!
[19:40] <jester7> ...I don't think it is
[19:40] <ipo> :(
[19:40] <user82> DasEi, i set up my computer 3 times in 5 months now..lts is not a big deal for a small surfing only machine
[19:40] <KrisDouglas> I have had to switch to the IFL mirrors
[19:40] <Pumpkin-> Natty is here now. It's been released.
[19:40] <arnab> is there any way to figure out how much space a particular package (with all its dependencies) will take up?
[19:40] <Belinrahs> tripelb: what are you talking about? lol
[19:40] <DasEi> mattyh88: check in synaptic if your desired language is fully installed, then re-try
[19:40] <tripelb> !natty |jester7
[19:40] <qin> mattyh88: try: setupcon
[19:40] <ipo> I cant run ubuntu on fujitsu laptop!
[19:40] <zvacet> karth: all I see when I type unity in filter is Ubuntu unity plugin or something like that
[19:40] <tripelb> Not a sexy problem: When I am on filesystem A I cant copy files from filesystem B (no permissions). When I boot into filesystem B I cant even SEE filesystem A. 10.04
[19:40] <jester7> tripelb: right :)  ubuntu+1 does not work
[19:41] <tripelb> I've been asking this for daze!
[19:41] <KrisDouglas> ipo, what is happening?
[19:41] <tripelb> ok jester7 I have been informed.
[19:41] <DasEi> mattyh88: also sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade may be of use, another thing, can I pm you ?
[19:42] <tensorpudding> if you put icons in /usr/local/share/icons, will the system be able to find them?
[19:42] <Jot> does anybody here know how to solve xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default?
[19:42] <mattyh88> DasEi: sure
[19:42] <tensorpudding> what else do you have to do to make it work?
[19:42] <Nickname_> just for anyones interest, also running natty on a hanvon bc10 touchpad or whatever they call them now :)   touch works GREATTTTT
[19:42] <bim> hi
[19:42] <^Spider^> upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 doesn't work for me; I get something similar to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/756329   -   How may I debug the problem?
[19:43] <DasEi> user82: your choice, dist-upgrade should be no problem
[19:43] <middle> i fixed it some how btw.. thanks for beign there
[19:43] <Mr_Proper_> Is it just me, are all the repository servers struggling since natty came out?
[19:43] <Mr_Proper_> Lots of timeouts
[19:43] <RRU_Sciguy> any idea as to when the sleep/resume issue shall be fixed?
[19:43] <proq> when I run gnome, the mouse settings that I change don't take effect in other window managers.  how do I get them to stay on?
[19:43] <bim> yeah, apt-get -y dist-upgrade is great ;)
[19:44] <velcroshooz> Mr_Proper_, high traffic. its going to be like that for awhile.
[19:44] <botcity> tripelb, there are so many details missing
[19:44] <RRU_Sciguy> proq: I dunno if the window managers share that cfg setting
[19:44] <Mr_Proper_> velcroshooz: Figured :) Tried a few, found one that seems more reliable, though slower, so I'll try that for a while
[19:44] <semitones> does ubuntu have a really stylish digital clock screensaver somewhere
[19:45] <tripelb> Hello, I have stuff on an ubuntu installation on one disk. And I want to copy it to another ubuntu installation on another (my main) disk. I dont care if it is become a second user on my main disc or what. I just want to clear the 10G disk. Now what do I do to get a comrad to assist me. It keeps telling me that I dont have permission. I can log into either disk.
[19:45] <TheHackOps> cya later guys
[19:45] <Froq> can silvermoon handle netlfix yet?
[19:45] <tripelb> botcity belinrahs does that help?
[19:45] <ross_> hello
[19:46] <Froq> can Silvermoon handle netflix yet?
[19:46] <TheHackOps> tripelb, if you want full permisions type su
[19:46] <ross_> is there such thing as  the best mobile broad access card for linux?
[19:46] <TheHackOps> Froq, Try it.....
[19:46] <ejv> !patience | Froq
[19:46] <Belinrahs> tripelb: why did you mention me? not sure how i fit in here...
[19:46] <semitones> Froq, more like netflix can't handle silvermoon
[19:46] <RRU_Sciguy> tripelb: sudo for short-term root priv
[19:46] <tripelb> TheHackOps, I need context. for the...
[19:46] <ross_> will meerkat work with 4g usb modem?
[19:46] <Froq> TheHackOps: I tried it 2 months ago & no luck.  didn't know if anythign has changed.  that is what is keeping me form going linux only in house
[19:46] <TheHackOps> ross_, Generic or a supported one
[19:46] <hoiken> hello all
[19:47] <ChessTeach> how does lvm work? do I install ubuntu on one hard drive, then install lvm and it begins using the second drive?
[19:47] <TheHackOps> Froq, What is keeping you
[19:47] <ross_> thehackops: can you please list some examples?
[19:47] <LAcan> are the firefox repos just broke today cuz of the update or what? i got one patched at 8am but no luck since then
[19:47] <TheHackOps> ross_, Its 5Am and i have been up all day and night on irc helping out
[19:47] <TheHackOps> ill be on tomoro
[19:47] <tripelb> belinrahs I was mistaken. I had the wrong context in my mind for your comment to me which was actually about my assertion that natty was not in this challel so please forgive me and be amused and my runon... :)
[19:47] <TheHackOps> or post in the forums
[19:47] <TheHackOps> i need sleep i have a big day tomorow
[19:47] <Varth> Has anyone figured out a way to make Google Chrome play nice with the Unity panel? I have window management buttons on the window and the panel when maximized, using either of Google chrome's titlebar modes.
[19:47] <fliegenderfrosch> tripelb: if you want to do it in a graphical way, just press alt+f2 and enter "gksudo nautilus", then you should have a file manager with admin privileges
[19:47] <Belinrahs> tripelb: no problem
[19:47] <tripelb> TheHackOps, later thanks
[19:47] <RRU_Sciguy> TheHackOps: GET SOME SLEEP MAN!!!
[19:47] <Froq> TheHackOps: my geeky side.  I like linux
[19:47] <botcity> tripelb, 10gigs can you use a usb stick? may be easier
[19:48] <pythoned> Greetings, I am running ubuntu and would like to donate a hdd to a friend. How can I format it to leave no trace on it? Just like it was brand new...?
[19:48] <ohsix> Varth: chrome draws its own decorations, t heres not much you can do about it
[19:48] <RRU_Sciguy> pythoned: reformatting the disk will erase the data
[19:48] <tripelb> botcity, yes I can. I still want to fix the issue. I'll take it to "ubuntuforums" and use the "good old american bailing wire" trick that you suggest. :P
[19:48] <ejv> pythoned: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdXX bs=1K
[19:48] <TheHackOps> Froq, I am linux only and i don't have any problems, RRU_Sciguy, The community needs support thats the only way to get new people so i pull my weight arround here to say thanks for the epic free os
[19:48] <botcity> pythoned, shred command
[19:48] <fliegenderfrosch> pythoned: i usually use "ultimate boot cd" for this
[19:49] <ipo> KrisDougal:  when I boot the CD , I se just a background!@
[19:49] <pythoned> RRU_Sciguy:  No, it will not...it will overwrite some portions of the HDD online.
[19:49] <trae> odd... why would I need 2G for a USB thumbdrive under Ubuntu when if I create the same one on Windows it only needs 1g (to make the same said USB thumbdrive system)
[19:49] <^Spider^> bye
[19:49] <fliegenderfrosch> RRU_Sciguy: reformatting does leave traces
[19:49] <Varth> ohsix: I actually got it figured out, It does work with the use native titlebar mode. I just didn't have it maximized like I thought I did. >_< Thanks for the input.
[19:49] <jiltdil> gui iptables for natty?
[19:49] <rannmann> pythoned: the dd method is my favorite.
[19:49] <akashm1990> I downloaded the revengeofthetitans .tar.gz from Humblebundle.  When I extract it , and try to run it using ./revenge.sh, nothing happens. Have tried chmod 777 revenge.sh and sudo ./revenge.sh
[19:49] <RRU_Sciguy> So does merely deleting
[19:49] <TheHackOps> RRU_Sciguy, I once stayed up for 3 days fixing some guys ubuntu install
[19:49]  * tripelb gives kudos to thehackops and hopes to know you more. (thinking 5am where is that?) goes to look at a map.
[19:49] <michaels> hi! i installed 11.04 on a macbook 2,1 i don't the the "at" to work (on the "G"-Key).... Anyone an idea?
[19:49] <jiltdil> please tell me the GUI iptables for natty?
[19:50] <RRU_Sciguy> TheHackOps: wow
[19:50] <pythoned> rannmann:  Does it work fine? i mean can i retrive data once I used that command?
[19:50] <TheHackOps> tripelb, Shout out from australia
[19:50] <TheHackOps> RRU_Sciguy, or whoever asked it. If you format and then overwright 32 times there is no trace
[19:50] <rannmann> pythoned: that overwrites the entire drive with 0's.  There is literally nothing on it.
[19:50] <ipo> I have problem on booting ubuntu!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
[19:50] <RRU_Sciguy> The best way to remove all traces without destroying the disk is to bleach it
[19:50] <ipo> please help!!! :(
[19:50] <pythoned> rannmann:  As I said I would like to donate I want to alter everything that was on it...
[19:50] <TheHackOps> Because the magnetics will be different completly
[19:50] <pythoned> rannmann:  Sweet, thank you so much sir!
[19:51] <TheHackOps> and Forensic recovery relies on that
[19:51] <ohsix> jiltdil: install the gui for ufw
[19:51] <fliegenderfrosch> pythoned: dd deletes the data securely, if you want to be totally sure use it multiple times, but after one run it should be really hard to get data even for forensics
[19:51] <GeekyAdam> hey all. friends ubuntu netbook edition wireless card stopped working. physical switch is on, but ifconfig only shows eth0 and lo. where do i start?
[19:51] <jiltdil> ohsix:ok thanks
[19:51] <brewster> where can i go for hardware related questions?
[19:51] <botcity> tripelb, is the hdd encrypted ?
[19:51] <semitones> what does the command "cd" do when used this way? cd && bzr get lp:~b0h3m4/+junk/noflipqlo
[19:51] <strigoi66> can anyone tell me where to get wifi driver for acer aspire 5000 laptop?
[19:52] <ohsix> jiltdil: it only does simple block and allow rules, but you can add custom rules to be applied with them (man ufw-framework)
[19:52] <ipo> everybody please help!
[19:52] <pestilence> semitones: changes to your home dir
[19:52] <fliegenderfrosch> pythoned: for added fun, use if=/dev/random :)
[19:52] <jiltdil> ohsix:thanks
[19:52] <strigoi66> for 11.04
[19:52] <semitones> pestilence, thanks
[19:52] <pestilence> semitones: note that you pasted two commands separated by &&
[19:52] <jmcantrell_> anyone using natty on a lenovo t420 or t520? i'm trying to see how compatible it is
[19:53] <pestilence> semitones: don't know what bzr get lp:~b0h3m4/+junk/noflipqlo does
[19:53] <pythoned> fliegenderfrosch:  But if the person takes the hdd to a special data lab ..will the folks there be able to see what's on it?
[19:53] <thejonb> i'm getting a 404 not found when trying to connect to the nautilus elementary ppa.  is it down?
[19:53] <Pici> thejonb: ppa.launchpad.net is overloaded. Try again later.
[19:53] <DasEi> jmcantrell_: on the t420 lucid is fine, though it's a mate's box
[19:53] <pythoned> fliegenderfrosch:  after I run the command like 3 times:)
[19:53] <nexus6__> is there a download problem ? i just get 45kb/s and have already tested on other download sites
[19:53] <thejonb> Pici: figured.  thanks.
[19:53] <RRU_Sciguy> pythoned: Deleting a file just erases the headers on the clumps (on window$ at least) the files are still there though
[19:53] <michaels> hi! i installed 11.04 on a macbook 2,1 i don't the the "at" to work (on the "G"-Key).... Anyone an idea?
[19:53] <botcity> pythoned, if your that paranoid i would torch it in the back yard
[19:54] <jmcantrell_> DasEi, know of any pain points when installing or does everything just work? any hardware that doesn't work?
[19:54] <pythoned> botcity:  Sadly I want to donate it:)) can't torch it...
[19:54] <IdleOne> nexus6__: the servers are over loaded it will settle down in a couple of days hopefully
[19:54] <botcity> pythoned, man shred
[19:54] <nexus6__> is there not alternative download?
[19:54] <RRU_Sciguy> pythoned, the only way to truly destroy data making it completely irrecoverable is to destroy the disk itself
[19:54] <fliegenderfrosch> pythoned: if you overwrite the data several times with random data, it should be impossible even for specialists to get data, if i recall correctly, i have read an article that even overwriting once  should be enough
[19:54] <DasEi> jmcantrell_: not that I new, the touchpad might need some extra work
[19:54] <pestilence> botcity: shred isn't useful for journaled filesystems
[19:54] <DasEi> knew*
[19:54] <IdleOne> !torrent | nexus6__
[19:54] <pestilence> he's better off with dd
[19:55] <whomie> hi!
[19:55] <DasEi> whomie: löle
[19:55] <mikeea> pythoned: try this iuse it on all my drives  http://www.dban.org/
[19:55] <KrisDouglas> If you open Synaptic package manager, go to repositories in the menu, and then where it says United Kingdom, or wherever, click change, then click other. Then click "select best server" and it will choose the fastest one available.
[19:55] <IdleOne> nexus6__: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Metalink
[19:55] <BUGabundo> deb mirror://mirrors.ubuntu.com/mirrors.txt oneiric main restricted universe multiverse
[19:55] <KrisDouglas> Always works when a new release comes out.
[19:55] <BUGabundo> oh well
[19:55] <whomie> do you think I should use Ubuntu or SOLARIS for a home server?
[19:55] <BUGabundo> let the fun begin
[19:55] <jmcantrell_> i just want a laptop where everything works great out of the box. anyone have any suggestions?
[19:55] <IdleOne> BUGabundo: oneiric ?
[19:55] <red2kic> whomie: Debian. :)
[19:55] <pythoned> mikeea:  thanks
[19:55] <pestilence> whomie: gentoo
[19:55] <whomie> why Debian?
[19:55] <whomie> or Gentoo
[19:55] <whomie> :)
[19:55] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: system76
[19:56] <red2kic> whomie: Why Ubuntu or Solaris? ;)
[19:56] <whomie> what are the differences between them
[19:56] <pestilence> whomie:  you are in a ubuntu room.  what do you think?
[19:56] <whomie> hehe
[19:56] <botcity> pestilence, oh sorry is there an updated version like shred2.0
[19:56] <whomie> I was recommended Ubuntu by 1 person
[19:56] <DasEi> whomie: rather a question for ##linux, ubuntu support here
[19:56] <jmcantrell_> zenlunatic, do you own one?
[19:56] <nexus6__> whats the name of the german channel?
[19:56] <mikeea> pythoned: welcome
[19:56] <whomie> and SOLARIS by another
[19:56] <fliegenderfrosch> pythoned: if you use a tool like "boot and nuke" from the ultimate boot cd, you can select different modes which correspond e.g. to security standards of the american department of defense
[19:56] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: no i buy used thinkpads
[19:56] <Arrarita> hello
[19:56] <whomie> I think Solaris sounds better but that's just me :)
[19:56] <DasEi> nexus6__: #ubuntu-de
[19:56] <nexus6__> thank you
[19:56] <pythoned> fliegenderfrosch:  :)) sounds great for a paranoic like me
[19:56] <jmcantrell_> zenlunatic, what models of thinkpads and what's the experience like?
[19:56] <pestilence> whomie: distro flame wars belong elsewhere.  next question
[19:57] <Arrarita> hello, is there someone who can help me?
[19:57] <DasEi> nexus6__: can pm me, if you want
[19:57] <whomie> pestilente what's a distro?
[19:57] <DasEi> !details | Arrarita
[19:57] <whomie> sorry for noob questions hehe
[19:57] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: mostly anything works... just google ibm certified thinkpads
[19:57] <whomie> :)
[19:57] <mayank_k> ok so I have got the "enable wireless" enabled by downloading backports
[19:57] <Arrarita> on my laptop, I upgraded the new version, 11.04
[19:57] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: ibm sells them with a 1 yr warranty
[19:57] <pestilence> whomie: ubuntu is a linux distribution.  so is debian and gentoo.  i was being facetious when i recommended gentoo
[19:57] <whomie> facetious?
[19:57] <_Mr_Proper_> Looks like ppa.launchpad.net is what is dead. If I exclude that from my sources, I can proceed with the rest normally
[19:57] <whomie> what does that mean :P
[19:58] <botcity> pythoned, i think we all get that way from time to time 0.o
[19:58] <mayank_k> however it's still not able to search the wireless network
[19:58] <mayank_k> iwconfig shows this http://paste.ubuntu.com/600919/
[19:58] <pestilence> whomie: just install ubuntu already ;)
[19:58] <Arrarita> it won't boot up, and I have tried to re install using the cd, and it still won't work, I don't know what to do?
[19:58] <RRU_Sciguy> I do have a problem however, in 10.10 sleep/resume worked properly. In 11.04 on resume I get stuck at a screen with just a command-prompt-cursor like symbol in the top-left corner
[19:58] <biffbaxter> whomie: I am biased, but give wattOS a try...its ubuntu based running LXDE :)
[19:58] <psykidellic> So I have a server app (written using Python/Twisted) that is loaded up through /etc/init.d. The machine is an OpenVPN client and it seems if I start the app before OpenVPN loads up tun0, all my network communication faolure with: Connection Timed Out. If I restart my server app, it works correctly for the same code/machine.
[19:58] <ipo> KrisDouglas: When I boot that CD , I see just a background!
[19:59] <Arrarita> I see the background first, and then it goes black and nothing
[19:59] <jmcantrell_> zenlunatic, ubuntu says that a lot of the thinkpads are "certified", but there's notes about needing pre-installed images. what's that mean?
[19:59] <bencc> when trying "sudo apt-get update" I'm getting Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/... Hash Sum mismatch
[19:59] <bencc> Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored or old ones used instead
[19:59] <bencc> is there something to do about it?
[19:59] <bencc> maybe clean the apt cache?
[20:00] <Arrarita> I tried to reinstall the last version using the cd, and that won't boot either
[20:00] <Kevin147> I'm having trouble with 11.04. I start up my desktop, and it goes to this grub> thing. It says to hit TAB to show commands and stuff...how do I fix this? someone please help!
[20:00] <Arrarita> I can't even get to the grub
[20:00] <TheHackOps> Ok can i clear something up before i get off
[20:00] <ipo> KrisDouglas: are you there?
[20:01] <TheHackOps> Australia is no a freaking outback bushland all across the board
[20:01] <RRU_Sciguy> TheHackOps, I know that, my mums from Melbourne
[20:01] <TheHackOps> I know america thinks we are but trust me were much more developed that most of america
[20:01] <RRU_Sciguy> And I live in America
[20:01] <arnab> how do i figure out how much space will be required to install a package, or will be freed up if i remove a package?
[20:01] <Arrarita> hello
[20:01] <Mjiig> hi, trying to do a "sudo do-release-upgrade", 2 packages keep giving me 403 Forbidden error every time i run it. Any help
[20:01] <TheHackOps> some guy pm'ed me asking how i get fiber optic internet in the outback
[20:02] <TheHackOps> ......
[20:02] <nit-wit> Kevin147, http://pastebin.com/y1gnRdQm let us know if you get in
[20:02] <RRU_Sciguy> People have asked my mom how long it took to drive here
[20:02] <LjL> !offtopic
[20:02] <TheHackOps> LOLOL
[20:02] <Arrarita> is there another way to get help, I cannot follow this?
[20:02] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: no idea can you link me
[20:02] <pestilence> arnab: it tells you when your run apt-get install....
[20:02] <RRU_Sciguy> And some even asked what lang they speak in Australia -.-
[20:02] <TheHackOps> RRU_Sciguy, Go into offtopic i want to talk
[20:02] <TheHackOps> lol
[20:02] <LjL> !support | Arrarita
[20:02] <Mjiig> the packages are xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-750dpi
[20:03] <jmcantrell_> zenlunatic, http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/hardware/201102-7326
[20:03] <zenlunatic> jmcantrell_: msg me
[20:03] <arnab> ahh ok, thanks - am using ubuntu after more than a year - i almost forgot about aptitude and apt-get
[20:03] <Arrarita> thank you, I will try that
[20:03] <benji_> "Linux ubuntu-desktop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux" is 32 or 64 ?
[20:03] <RRU_Sciguy> TheHackedOps, I am there (#off-topic)
[20:03] <Mjiig> benji_: 32 bit i believe
[20:04] <wad> In general, I'm liking the 11.4 release. But there are a couple of issues I've noticed around my dual-monitor configuration: It doesn't play nice when I have one monitor positioned above the other.
[20:04] <zombor> anyone know the status of the GMA 2000 intel graphics chip? im having a hell of a time getting even a display to come up
[20:04] <strigoi66> where do I get drivers for wifi on acer aspire 5000 running natty
[20:04] <benji_> Mjiig, I would say so also, is there a better command to know that ?
[20:04] <TheHackOps> RRU_Sciguy, no your not
[20:05] <CiberLugo> how i can put the clock in notification bar in natty?
[20:05] <sundjinnkari> hello all How do I get unity back after installing gnome 3?
[20:05] <RRU_Sciguy> TheHackOps, i got an unavailable error with offtopic
[20:05] <Kevin147> nit-wit: Sorry, I am not very good with the grub stuff.. so like, run "prompt for grub2"?
[20:05] <TheHackOps> lol
[20:05] <TheHackOps> fail
[20:05] <LjL> RRU_Sciguy: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:05] <RRU_Sciguy> ah, lol
[20:05] <RRU_Sciguy> i did off-topic
[20:05] <TheHackOps> you won
[20:06] <sundjinnkari> hello all How do I get unity back after installing gnome 3?
[20:06] <warpi> yo, does anyone have a tip of "IRC BOT" application for ubuntu?
[20:06] <bencc> when fetching from repositories I'm getting several Failed
[20:06] <bencc> why is that?
[20:06] <nit-wit> Kevin147, #1 is the header the decription # is the start of the commands
[20:07] <Pici> !info supybot | warpi
[20:07] <nit-wit> Kevin147, start at #2
[20:07] <Kevin147> nit-wit: ok.
[20:07] <sundjinnkari> hello all How do I get unity back after installing gnome 3?
[20:07] <truepurple> I have tried to upgrade ubuntu to 11.04, I restarted my PC but it has loaded to a mostly blank screen with a couple scraggly lines of dashes at the top
[20:07] <Mjiig> benji_: can't think of one, what's wrong with uname?
[20:07] <KrisDouglas> sundjinnkari, gnome 3 breaks unity, I don't know of a way to restore what happens afterwards.
[20:07] <warpi> ubottu, thx!
[20:08] <Mjiig> hi, trying to do a "sudo do-release-upgrade", 2 packages keep giving me 403 Forbidden error every time i run it. Any help
[20:08] <Mjiig> the packages are xfonts-100dpi and xfonts-750dpi
[20:08] <nit-wit> Kevin147, you can do it when you hit tab it is to complete so if you hit the tab where stated and nothing comes up start again, you don't have to reboot to try again.
[20:08] <benji_> Mjiig, nothing, it would be nice to actually see 32 when it is
[20:08] <benji_> but I can live with that
[20:08] <Barsuk> Which video converter is the best for linux?
[20:08] <Barsuk> I want to convert film to my mobile format mp4
[20:08] <Kevin147> nit-wit: oh alright I see... on the "linux /boot/vmlinuz<tab> nothing comes up
[20:09] <Mjiig> benji_: someone more competant than me could probably knock together a bash function to do that
[20:09] <Nickname_> winff handbrake
[20:09] <Mjiig> benji_: i'll givce it a go
[20:09] <ipo> everybody thanks for helping!
[20:09] <ipo> :'(
[20:09] <milen8204> Could anyone help me to mount my old /home partition to my new one /home :D, because I had preinstal my ubuntu
[20:09] <nit-wit> Kevin147, the first line #2 has to be with the correct partition. Also the spaces a critical as well.;)
[20:10] <isibilir> hi
[20:10] <nit-wit> *are
[20:10] <isibilir> i install 11.04
[20:10] <truepurple> I have tried to upgrade ubuntu to 11.04, I restarted my PC but it has loaded to a mostly blank screen with a couple scraggly lines of dashes at the top
[20:10] <isibilir> today
[20:10] <nit-wit> truepurple, tried ir did upgrade
[20:10] <nit-wit> *or
[20:10] <isibilir> but dont work unity because don't install 8400gs vga driver and  i dont find driver
[20:10] <milen8204> truepurple,  same as me
[20:11] <Mjiig> benji_: uname --machine | grep i686 >/dev/null && echo "Your one a 32 bit machine" || echo "Your on a 64 bit machine"
[20:11] <Mjiig> i think that works
[20:11] <milen8204> truepurple, I had the same problem
[20:11] <benji_> Mjiig, haha you rick
[20:11] <benji_> rock*
[20:11] <truepurple> nit-wit: Well I downloaded the files, got to the stage where it was suppose to install the upgrade, but I got this instead
[20:11] <benji_> :)
[20:11] <Mjiig> no problem
[20:11] <Furry> In Natty, can I add my own applications to the Launcher?
[20:11] <Mjiig> i rarely get to test my (limited) bash skills
[20:11] <zvacet> isibilir: did you look under system>admin additional drives if you can install it from there
[20:11] <sweb> ubuntu 11.04 [20:11] <milen8204> truepurple, I had preinstal
[20:12] <truepurple> milen8204: I will create a thread on this problem too and link you to it for you to contribute
[20:12] <sweb> i install it on eee pc ausu 904 hd, linux suppor
[20:12] <sweb> support
[20:12] <isibilir> add.. drivers dont open
[20:12] <Furry> LjL, missed the last | I think
[20:12] <blurgh> Chello!
[20:12] <sweb> after some restart the theme of gnome will be broken
[20:12] <moltendorf> Hey everyone, quick question, just did a test swap to ubuntu 11.04 over SSH, but the network performance seems to be very, very slow; namely using SSH, connecting is quick, but when it prompts me for password, it takes a good 15 seconds to respond. Attempting to log in through the physical console results in no delay.
[20:12] <milen8204> truepurple,  ok
[20:12] <truepurple> milen8204: What do you mean by preinstall? You bought a computer already like this?
[20:12] <Blakviper> hi, ne1 have time to review with me a problem? I've just installed ubuntu, with winXP, it freezes at the login screen
[20:12] <moltendorf> Anyone know how to fix this?
[20:12] <sweb> windows 7 work on eee pc well
[20:12] <isibilir> and i find ubuntu software center a diffrent add.. drivers and install but sam
[20:12] <isibilir> same
[20:13] <Kevin147> nit-wit: its saying no such partition
[20:13] <hf_acid> Furry: yes, if you find the application via the unity search you should be able to drag and drop it onto the side there
[20:13] <joepa> using natty/unity release, apps won't stay pinned to the Launcher. I right-click, choose keep in Launcher, logout, login, and it's gone. I formatted and reinstalled, same problem. it doesn't matter whether I'm logged in as a normal user or as root, same problem. Any ideas?
[20:13] <milen8204> truepurple, I had 10.10 then i have undated, and my laptop fails
[20:13] <truepurple> nit-wit: Are you able to help?
[20:14] <nit-wit> truepurple, to be honest the description is confusing. The update upgrade should happen with not turning the computer off. Is the a failed upgrade, so you thought your computer was okay then restarted to the situation now?
[20:14] <vanguard> I just upgraded to Natty and now my Desktop Effects lag seriously (was fine with ATI driver in Maverick), my window decorations are gone. How can I get everything back into a working state?
[20:14] <truepurple> milen8204:  Did you try to upgrade to 11.04?
[20:14] <milen8204> truepurple, than I downloaded a new 11.04 and burned it on disk and I made a new instalation
[20:14] <sweb> unity desktop [20:14] <milen8204> truepurple, yes
[20:14] <blurgh> Has anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse?
[20:14] <truepurple> nit-wit: Of course you need to restart your PC when upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04
[20:15] <kate__> Anyone got time to answer a question about why I can't get my image cd to work>
[20:15] <milen8204> truepurple, I had installed it
[20:15] <sweb> any one can answer me ?
[20:15] <truepurple> milen8204:  And you also only see a bit of dashed lines at the top of the screen with the rest blank?
[20:15] <vanguard> I just upgraded to Natty and now my Desktop Effects lag seriously (was fine with ATI driver in Maverick), my window decorations are gone. How can I get everything back into a working state?
[20:15] <csuwldcat> sooo
[20:15] <milen8204> truepurple, I restarted and then nothing happed
[20:15] <nit-wit> truepurple, yes if you had a good upgrade. the way you have described it is confusingto me at least.:)
[20:15] <qin> vanguard: compiz --replace ??
[20:15] <csuwldcat> question
[20:15] <truepurple> milen8204: What do you see on your screen?
[20:15] <Kevin147> nit-wit: its saying no such partition
[20:16] <hazure> I'm encountering a problem where many applications just show a white screen when started (after logging in for a bit). They seem responsive, but just white. Ditto with the lockscreen (full screen goes white, but the password can be put in).
[20:16] <botcity> kate__, did you checksum the image ?
[20:16] <csuwldcat> I am getting the dreaded sudo: must be setuid root
[20:16] <milen8204> truepurple, sing UBUNTU and 4 points under it :D
[20:16] <truepurple> nit-wit: I will explain it in a thread and link you to that thread
[20:16] <csuwldcat> because I AGAIN tried to chown the /usr dir
[20:16] <nit-wit> truepurple, cool
[20:16] <kate__> It starts but then pauses and tells me 'undevd 83: worker unexpectedly returned with status 0x0100' and then I can't move
[20:16] <milen8204> truepurple,  and that was for an hour
[20:16] <truepurple> milen8204: it says the words "sing UBUNTU"?
[20:16] <csuwldcat> apt-get was trying to mod a file in the dir and sudo before the command wasn't working
[20:16] <isibilir> how can install nVidia 8400GS driver
[20:17] <kate__> I thought maybe it was a bad image, but I downloaded a new one and it still does it
[20:17] <csuwldcat> so I was like "well it is telling me that I have to be the owner, even with pseudp"
[20:17] <milen8204> truepurple, no tghe starting words Ubuntu I know
[20:17] <DasEi> isibilir: use jockey-gtk
[20:17] <ivancp> hello, I can't see the volume icon in my ubuntu 11.04 with gnome 2.x.... how to restore that icon?
[20:17] <csuwldcat> sudo
[20:17] <qin> kate__: Did you burn in to CD, and how?
[20:17] <csuwldcat> so now I have no root abilities on sudo
[20:17] <botcity> kate__, did you checksum the image or burn at the slowest speed?
[20:17] <csuwldcat> and no ownership of /usr
[20:17] <demlasjr> so...nobody know to fix the wireless problem...guess I need to switch to windows...:((
[20:17] <isibilir> DasEi: HOW TO USE jockey-gtk
[20:17] <kate__> I right clicked the image and selected 'burn to cd'... whatever it did for that.
[20:17] <csuwldcat> everything I have seen says to reisntall
[20:17] <tripelb> Repeat(I got interrupted)I cant copy files from disk A to disk B (got no permissions it says)  Neither one is encrypted. When I am on drive A (the installation I use all the time 1T, new) I can see drive B and look at things but I cant copy files because I dont have permission. But I can edit a file and resave it on that disk. (botcity are you still interested in this question?)
[20:18] <DasEi> isibilir: sudo jockey-gtk
[20:18] <isibilir> THX
[20:18] <vanguard> qin: is it normal that it does nothing for a while after imgsvg?
[20:18] <DasEi> isibilir: choose recommended, activate, and ..
[20:18] <kate__> I burned a 10.04 LTS image with the same process, no problem.
[20:18] <isibilir> ok i will try now
[20:18] <isibilir> thx
[20:19] <DasEi> isibilir: stop gnome, do a : sudo nvidia-xconfig, start gnome
[20:19] <csuwldcat> so are you really telling me that when I get feedback from an install command that says I need to be an owner of a file, and that flag is raised ***even with sudo*** and I own the file, it cause a state where the only answer is reinstallation?
[20:19] <csuwldcat> wow
[20:19] <csuwldcat> what an epic fail
[20:19] <okenobi_> hello world ... i'm upgrading to 11.04 ... hardly wait to see the outcome
[20:19] <zvacet> kate__: did you downloaded with torrent
[20:19] <DimaV> I have just upgraded my 10.10 server box to 11.04, but I guess grub installed incorrectly and now i am not getting past the "bash-line editing" cmd grub. I am in a live cd now. help?
[20:19] <qin> vanguard: No clue... I am afraid my Natty updrade is nto done yet.
[20:19] <isibilir> i am new user ubuntu and linux
[20:19] <blurgh> Has anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse? Or is it depending on developers to fix it?
[20:19] <csuwldcat> ubuntu and linux are really cool
[20:19] <isibilir> how :)  can i stop
[20:19] <isibilir> :D
[20:19] <moltendorf> I just successfully did a swap to Ubuntu 11.04 Server (from another operating system) over SSH, everything seems to work fine, but since the swap SSH seems to be very sluggish. Could this be due to my network settings being incorrect? I'm not quite sure what everything in this file does (namely the "network" and "broadcast" values). /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.com/Y8irAjdS
[20:19] <kate__> No, from the main Ubuntu page.
[20:19] <botcity> tripelb, one min!
[20:20] <Kevin147> How do I find out which partition has the OS on it?
[20:20] <qin> isibilir: Stop hwat?
[20:20] <qin> *what?
[20:20] <csuwldcat> but if you want it to progress beyond the parent's basement, shit has to get more intuitive than this
[20:20] <csuwldcat> so reinstall?
[20:20] <csuwldcat> really
[20:20] <csuwldcat> seriously?
[20:20] <isibilir> stop gnome
[20:20] <cache_surplus> hello, im trying to ubuntu 10.10 32bit on a windows xp laptop. when i boot to cdrom, windows xp continues to rule the mbr. how can i load linux on this laptop the best practice way, that will work 100% of the time. thanks  also, it seems older hardware doesnt allow the cdrom to pass xp boot usually,, at least the past 4 boxes i have tried....
[20:20] <moltendorf> Kevin147: /etc/fstab should show this.
[20:20] <qin> Kevin147: df -h  or  dfisk -l
[20:20] <Ahmuck> how do i get unity off and gnome back on
[20:20] <Furry> Can I add my own application to the Launcher?
[20:21] <moltendorf> Kevin147: edit, oops
[20:21] <zvacet> kate__:  download with torrent fromhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/
[20:21] <qin> isibilir: sudo service gdm stop
[20:21] <Ahmuck> Furry, yes
[20:21] <Furry> cache_surplus, have you tried disabling the Hard Drive from the boot order?
[20:21] <Ahmuck> I'd like to drop back to gnome, how?
[20:21] <cache_surplus> i have not... however, it is set to boot from cdrom currently
[20:21] <DasEi> !pm | isibilir
[20:21] <qin> isibilir: it will drop you to terminal
[20:21] <zvacet> kate__:  point download to the folder with existing natty iso so torrent will just check files
[20:21] <Kevin147> Well, i mean, I'm on the grub thing, and the link that nit-wit gave me, says X for partition #... I don't know how to find that out on the grub
[20:21] <cache_surplus> i have tried the basics, it should just start the install... sighs...
[20:21] <Furry> Ahmuck, how?
[20:22] <Samo502> Hey everybody, I have a booting problem
[20:22] <isibilir> sorry friends
[20:22] <nit-wit> Kevin147, X=partitionumber
[20:22] <DimaV> I have just upgraded my 10.10 server box to 11.04, but I guess grub installed incorrectly and now i am not getting past the "bash-line editing" cmd grub. I am in a live cd now. help?
[20:22] <DasEi> qin:nice, thank you for guidind isib.
[20:22] <isibilir> but i want to install 8400gs driver
[20:22] <kaffien> why is it that when i installed the nvidia drivers for my laptop i all of a sudden lost twinview?
[20:22] <DasEi> guiding*
[20:22] <kate__> Enter the URL in Transmission, you mean?
[20:22] <Kevin147> nit-wit: Ok so the # is 0?
[20:22] <MC8> Howdy; how does one configure the Unity sidebar thingy? :)
[20:22] <Samo502> Grub refuses to boot into my Windows partition, even if I choose to boot into it it still boots into Ubuntu
[20:23] <zvacet> kate__:  after that run https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM
[20:23] <qin> DasEi: He wanted to stop gnome, Should scroll more?
[20:23] <Ahmuck> is there a proceedure for removing unity?
[20:23] <jmcantrell_> on the ubuntu certification page, does anyone know what it means when it says "pre-installed only"
[20:23] <DimaV> i hope i am not missing anyone replying to me
[20:23] <tiagotiago> Hi
[20:24] <DasEi> qin: it's about nvidia driver and nvidia-xconfig out of x
[20:24] <Furry> Is there a way to add my own applications to the Unity sidebar?
[20:24] <zvacet> kate__:  if you already have natty iso point torrent download there so the torrent can check files
[20:24] <qin> Ahmuck: Use rather google, than this channel (atm).
[20:24] <nit-wit> Kevin147, the partition if looked at with gparted would look something like the sda1  the 1 is the X boot a live cd and open gparted and write down the partition. This can be found from thegrub> but I don't know the command
[20:24] <fliegenderfrosch> Ahmuck: do you want to completely remove it or just use the traditional desktop? if it’s the latter, just chose "traditional gnome desktop" at login
[20:25] <Kevin147> nit-wit: alright.. good thing I remember it, its sda1
[20:25] <Kevin147> :P
[20:25] <Samo502> Hey, I need help with a booting issue
[20:25] <Samo502> it's a bit urgent
[20:25] <KrisDouglas> Samo502, what is the problem?
[20:25] <botcity> tripelb, how where you transferring files
[20:25] <Kevin147> nit-wit: sweet, that worked.. alright, which file now?
[20:26] <Samo502> KrisDouglas: I can't boot into windows, it boots into ubuntu even if i choose to boot into windows
[20:26] <Ahmuck> qin: why?
[20:26] <Samo502> it's probably a menu.lst problem
[20:26] <Ahmuck> isn't this the ubuntu channel?
[20:27] <vivid> is it just me, or is launchpad totally tits up
[20:27] <botcity> tripelb, did you mount them?
[20:27] <okenobi_> Samo502 i think you have grub2 and not grub 1
[20:27] <nit-wit> Kevin147, are you in natty
[20:27] <sweb> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38159/install-on-asus-eeepc-with-stupid-big-problem
[20:27] <qin> Ahmuck: Coz, Unity removal method is uncertain 1 day after release (give it a time).
[20:27] <KrisDouglas> Samo502, that's a new one. Have you done a fresh install of Ubuntu or is it an upgrade?
[20:27] <hazure> Anyone know of a rendering issue with unity showing only white screens for gnome apps?
[20:27] <Ahmuck> unity is a good start, but it's built for tablets, not desktops
[20:28] <tase> is there still as much traffic as yesterday on the cannonical servers ?
[20:28] <tiagotiago> I tried upgrading from 10.10 to 11.somthing and it failed, it said somthing about running dpkg --configure -a but it didn't work , i tried doing that myself and i got http://paste.ubuntu.com/600935/ in response, what should i do?
[20:28] <Samo502> KrisDouglas: Upgrade, I've had Ubuntu for a while. Though I haven't updated in a little while
[20:28] <okenobi_> Sam0502, don't forget to mention what version of ubuntu you have
[20:28] <Ahmuck> and needs to be thought out a little more for the desktop
[20:28] <Pici> Ahmuck: You can choose Ubuntu Classic from GDM, removing unity itself may be a bit messy.
[20:28] <kate__> This is gonna make me sound like a moron. cd /Downloads says the folder doesn't exist.
[20:28] <Extase> Hello all. I'm having troubles instaling 11.04 in a Acer Laptop. The display backlight turns off as soon as ubuntu CD boots, and i can't see nothing. Any clue?
[20:28] <kate__> I'm already in my home folder.
[20:28] <rpk> Is there anything new in ubuntu 11.04 that would prevent java rmi from working?
[20:28] <Kevin147> nit-wit: yes, I upgraded, then clicked restart on the thing when it finished, and came upon this problem. I did all that stuff, now its doing like a bunch of info stuff or w/e
[20:28] <Ahmuck> is there a way to get ubuntu classic from the install menu?
[20:28] <qin> Ahmuck: Once more, you have Option to choose Classic Gnome Session.
[20:28] <rpk> Something blocking the port perhaps?
[20:28] <fliegenderfrosch> kate__: try cd Downloads (without /)
[20:28] <Samo502> okenobi_: it's 11.04, and even though it should be in #ubuntu+1 i figure it's not so much natty related as grub related
[20:28] <KrisDouglas> Ahmuck, it gets installed with Unity
[20:28] <qin> Ahmuck: You mean in live session, no
[20:29] <Ahmuck> does the option stay as a saved value, or must i always go through an extra click to get past unity
[20:29] <nit-wit> Kevin147, If your in Natty run sudo grub-install /dev/sda then sudo update grub make sure the hd is sda
[20:29] <blurgh> Anyone has experience in manipulating the global menus? (The non-working ones)
[20:29] <Furry> Guys, can I add my own apps to the Unity sidebar?
[20:29] <rpk> I upgraded from 10.10, and I can no longer connect to weblogic running on my machine
[20:29] <qin> Ahmuck: Saved
[20:29] <blurgh> Furry: Sure, just drag em over there
[20:29] <sudipta> I have installed natty today...and installed graphics drivers for nVidia card....but after that neither Unity nor Ubuntu classic seems to work...currently with no effects.......any HELP?
[20:29] <Kevin147> nit-wit: thats the thing, I don't have access to the command line.. but I remembered, it is sda1, and I did that, and then all the kernels popped up
[20:29] <laughtrip>  i just upgraded my ubuntu box 10.04 > 11.x ... i'm getting a weird error ... can't mount my data drive ... when i do  dmesg | tail ... it tells me /dev/sda has "bad geometry" (block count exceeds size of devices). any idea how to fix that?
[20:29] <Furry> blurgh, I'm trying to add an executable .jar file though
[20:29] <Kevin147> nit-wit: I picked the 38 one, the highest number of all of em, so that should work
[20:30] <Samo502> Synaptic shows my grub version to be 0.97-29ubuntu61
[20:30] <laughtrip> i tried mounting it as root using  sudo mount /dev/sda ... then the system tells me it's not in /etc/fstab .. so i look in there and sure enough it is not in there ...
[20:30] <nit-wit> Kevin147, yeah if your getting them from the first tab
[20:30] <blurgh> Furry: Hmm, dunno how that's done
[20:30] <astrostl> http://ppa.launchpad.net/ slow for everyone?
[20:30] <jmcantrell_> on the ubuntu certification page, does anyone know what it means when it says "pre-installed only"
[20:30] <rpk> hmm, actually I can't connect to my machine on any port, but can still ping it
[20:31] <Kevin147> nit-wit: when I did tab, there was like 5 others, there was 22, 23, and a few more I don't remember
[20:31] <qin> Furry: .jar is run by java
[20:31] <sudipta> I have installed natty today...and installed graphics drivers for nVidia card....but after that neither Unity nor Ubuntu classic seems to work...currently with no effects.......any HELP?
[20:31] <tiago> hi?
[20:31] <okenobi_> Samo502: I have the same grub ... let me investigate a little
[20:31] <Samo502> okenobi_: http://pastebin.com/Dty7FGWn that's my menu.lst
[20:31] <nit-wit> Kevin147, so after the kernel line 3 correctly spaced root=/dev/sda1
[20:32] <Samo502> okenobi_: i ran computer janitor yesterday and i think it changed some stuff, it had to be that because i didn't run an update or anything of the sort
[20:32] <qin> sudipta: Did you test it in live session, if yes what sessin did you get (Unity or Classic)?
[20:32] <joepa> anyone else unable to pin apps to the Launcher in Unity/Natty?
[20:32] <Ahmuck> so that i don't sound like an ogre, unity has it's pluses.  it was simple, and the desktop switcher was genius.  previously i had already set my desktop up in gnome in a unity type of configuration.  the disappointment with unity however was the complete loss of configuration options
[20:32] <DimaV> I have just upgraded my 10.10 server box to 11.04, but I guess grub installed incorrectly and now i am not getting past the "bash-line editing" cmd grub. I am in a live cd now, and confused
[20:32] <HAKMASTER> hey!! quick question, i'am installting Ubuntu 11.0.4 and during the installation when i'm doing parition resize, i can't mount it to other than the default mount listed name!! how i can fix this? thanks in advance
[20:32] <Guest41978> tiago
[20:32] <Ahmuck> thx
[20:32] <qin> Ahmuck: agree
no I havent.....but on booting for the first time..it displays Unity can not be started....
[20:33] <Guest41978> escreva português
[20:33] <TiagoTiago_> Sorryp did somthing i shouldnmt have and had to reboot
[20:33] <Samo502> okenobi_: maybe an update would help? being that an update changes menu.lst it might fix my booting perhaps?
[20:33] <Kevin147> nit-wit: yes, thats what I did.. I did this exactly: linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.38-8-generic root=/dev/sda1
[20:33] <nit-wit> Kevin147, is Ubuntu the only OS?
[20:33] <Guest41978> escreva português
[20:33] <Kevin147> nit-wit: Yes
[20:33] <okenobi_> Samo502: i doubt it
[20:33] <ardchoille> Is there a known issue with nautilus not respecting themes in 11.04?
[20:33] <kate__> File checked out ok... burning a new cd, this time at the lowest speed possible. We'll see. I really don't want to have to sit through a 4 hour upgrade to 10.10, then another 4 to 11.04.
[20:33] <rgoytacaz> Ubuntu 11.04 Installing Mysql errors out, can any1 take a look? http://pastie.org/1848384
[20:34] <Guest41978> você me entende?
[20:34] <nit-wit> Kevin147, did you type the kernel or use the tab
[20:34] <jmcantrell_> on the ubuntu certification page, does anyone know what it means when it says "pre-installed only"
[20:34] <coz_> ardchoille,  not that I am aware of ,, you mean a theme from system/preferences/appearance ...yes?
[20:34] <qin> sudipta: ok, you would want to remove (propably faulty) driver, try: jockey-text in terminal
[20:34] <okenobi_> Samo502: this is menu.lst entries for win http://pastebin.com/RhRF7eSr
[20:34] <botcity> HAKMASTER, they are should be drop down windows
[20:34] <sudipta> qin:yeah then
[20:34] <Samo502> okenobi_: would my rootnoverify be different or is it likely the same?
[20:35] <Kevin147> nit-wit: I did tab, which showed: linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.3<STOP> then I looked at the list, saw the latest one, which is 2.6.38-8-generic, typed 8, hit tab, and it showed up
[20:35] <TiagoTiago> Oi Guest
[20:35] <ardchoille> coz_: Ah, ok, thanks. I designed my own GTK themes and it's not accepting any of them, nor is it respecting default themes.
[20:35] <sweb> any one can asnwer me : http://askubuntu.com/questions/38159/install-on-asus-eeepc-with-stupid-big-problem
[20:35] <qin> sudipta: try update and install driver again (via Menu > System > Admin > Hardware)
 yes but  i want to choose another partition name then the default ex: /media/data
[20:35] <okenobi_> Samo502: what rootnoverify do you have?
[20:35] <coz_> ardchoille,  it may something in your themes  that is causing the issue,, not sure though
[20:35] <Samo502> okenobi_: (hd0,2)
[20:36] <raven_> WHY there is an open connection to screenshots.ubuntu.com?
[20:36] <coz_> ardchoille,  did you compress your themes and try instaling from that tar.gz,,, yes?
[20:36] <Samo502> okenobi_: is the second number related to the numbers in /dev/sda#?
[20:36] <nit-wit> Kevin147, okay so use the 1 in place of both X's in the commands then start from the beginning of the command set and use the tab complete as notated
[20:36] <TiagoTiago> Is there an installer i can run on Windows to install Ubuntu (on another partition) ?
[20:36] <qin> sweb: Are you asking about "some gnome themes are broken"?
 have you experience like this issue before?
[20:36] <ardchoille> coz_: It isn't respecting the default themes like Clearlooks, Ambiance, Dust or Radience either. Maybe due to upgrading instead of a fresh install.
[20:36] <sudipta> qin:I have installed the recommended driver ....and  Additional Driver tab says The driver is activated but not currently in use
[20:36] <rgoytacaz> Ubuntu 11.04 Installing Mysql errors out, can any1 take a look? http://pastie.org/1848384
[20:37] <truepurple> nit-wit: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837
[20:37] <nit-wit> Kevin147, here ios a reload of grub2 from a live cd as well.
[20:37] <confusedguy25> Can somebody help me, Ubuntu won't boot properly.
[20:37] <nit-wit> Kevin147, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202
[20:37] <Kevin147> nit-wit: alright, I did all that stuff... it did a disk check, but now a black screen? õ.õ
[20:37] <raven_> WHY there is an open connection to screenshots.ubuntu.com?
[20:37] <botcity> kate__, my burn got corrupted because i burned too fast !
[20:37] <qin> sudipta: To start driver you need to reboot
[20:37] <nit-wit> truepurple, thanks I will look
[20:37] <coz_> ardchoille,  oo something is definitly up then,, did you already install your themes ..yes?
[20:37] <confusedguy25> When I choose Ubuntu from the boot menu, it says error and then I get some type of GRUB command prompt.
[20:37] <confusedguy25> I am on 10.10.
[20:37] <sudipta> qin:yaeh...I did that
[20:37] <coz_> ardchoille,  and was this happening "before" you attempted to install your themes?
[20:38] <spajderix> hi
[20:38] <kiko__> eu falo português
[20:38] <sweb> qin, no theme is in appearance list but when i click on it nothing happened. the theme style is gray with old icons style.
[20:38] <brainproxy> I've got a XenServer 5.5 and have used the 64bit server ISO for ubuntu 10.04 when creating a new VM; however, I find that the server ISO for 11.04 can't be used to boot a new VM on my XenServer
[20:38] <nit-wit> Kevin147, do you know the graphic card
[20:38] <sudipta> qin:but nothing happens.....unity and classic show with a blank screen
[20:38] <ardchoille> coz_: I did a network upgrade. I have had my custom themes installed for about a year and they work fine in gnome 2.x UI
[20:38] <okenobi_> Samo502: YES, if it is sda3, then it is hd0,2
[20:38] <Kevin147> nit-wit: no, I just bought this desktop a few months ago... so yeah
[20:38] <confusedguy25> Does anybody know how to fix Ubuntu??
[20:38] <coz_> ardchoille,  ah then I am puzzled,,  it could be the install is not complete?   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:38] <qin> sudipta: Well, better remove it then, also check your card for support (for maverick drivers you will get certain answer).
[20:38] <rpk> can someone point me at any basic troubleshooting steps for not being able to connect remotely into ubuntu?
[20:38] <Kevin147> nit-wit: should I shut it off (hold power button) and start it up again?
[20:38] <Samo502> okenobi_: so then, being that my windows partition is sda1 then hd0,0 would be correct...
[20:38] <spajderix> i installed unity-2d, uninstalled it after 10 minutes of using, and now in unity-3d i have no window decoration, does anyone know how to make it right?
[20:38] <ardchoille> coz_: I went back to the gnome 2.x UI via login screen, it's all good. I don't like having to move my mouse just to use menus anyway.
[20:39] <Samo502> okenobi_: scratch that
[20:39] <sweb> qin, i think ubuntu have a big problem on this version
[20:39] <okenobi_> Samo502: correct!
[20:39] <ardchoille> coz_: ah, ok, will try the update/upgrade again
[20:39] <Samo502> okenobi_: was looking at the wrong partition, it's sda3
[20:39] <MethedMan> anybody know how to configure a samba print server
[20:39] <qin> rpk: you mean ssh?
[20:39] <Samo502> okenobi_: so therefore hd0,2 would be correct!
[20:39] <truepurple> Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, I have come into a strange blank screen, here are the details- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837 can anyone help?
[20:39] <Asdfg_> hello
[20:39] <okenobi_> Samo502: ok .. so it is correct!
[20:39] <rpk> No, I need to connect to an oracle weblogic application over rmi
[20:39] <sudipta> qin:on right click "Change Desktop Background "  has no Visual Effect tab
[20:39] <qin> sweb: Hectic start ;)
[20:39] <ardchoille> coz_: nothing to upgrade, it looks like it was complete
[20:39] <rpk> I can't get into the weblogic console either, qin
[20:40] <Samo502> okenobi_: I notice mine is missing the makeactive line, and the rootnoverify is 0,2, hmm
[20:40] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:40] <nit-wit> Kevin147, yeah just boot a live cd and follow that grub link that should get you in, otherwise there is a bootscript that is quite helpful that can be run from a lve cd then put in a pastebin for us to look at.
[20:40] <rpk> qin, I can however ping the computer and get a response back from that
[20:40] <okenobi_> Samo502: I had a similar problem though with win7. I couldn't install it on something different than sda1 ...
[20:40] <coz_> ardchoille,  mmm then I am puzzled,, you say you installed 11.04  via net install?
[20:40] <sexygurl2furl> can somebody please help me?
[20:40] <qin> sudipta: Yes, lack of acceleration, update and check your card
[20:40] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:40] <rpk> qin: it worked yesterday, on 10.10
[20:40] <coz_> sexygurl2furl,  i didnt see your post,, would you mind posting again??  if I can i will help
[20:40] <nit-wit> Kevin147, bootscript http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/
[20:40] <sexygurl2furl> Ubuntu won't boot correctly.
[20:40] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:40] <sudipta> qin:but 10.10 works well with the card.....
[20:40] <sexygurl2furl> When I try to boot UBuntu from the boot menu, I get a GRUB command prompt.
[20:41] <ardchoille> coz_: yes, and my themes were working yesterday in gnome 2.x and still work today. But nautilus doesn't respect them in Unity
[20:41] <sexygurl2furl> Does anybody know how to fix this?
[20:41] <ivancp> I can't see the volume icon at top in my ubuntu 11.04 with gnome 2.x.... how to restore that icon?
[20:41] <okenobi_> Samo502: if the win partition is sda3, hd0,2 is correct! put makeactive and give it a try!
[20:41] <HAKMASTER> hey!! quick question, i'am installting Ubuntu 11.0.4 and during the installation when i'm doing parition resize, i can't mount it to other than the default mount listed name!! how i can fix this? thanks in advance
[20:41] <jmcantrell_> on the ubuntu certification page, does anyone know what it means when it says "pre-installed only"
[20:41] <Kevin147> nit-wit: no need, I just shut it off, started it up, and it is working now. Thanks!! :)
[20:41] <qin> sudipta: Card often droping from support, but you can try also mesa drivers
[20:41] <sweb> qin, unity is for kids not usefull. i thinks cononical must zoom on stability and hardwares not on some funy tools like unity. ubuntu required stability not stupid problem after v 11
[20:41] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:41] <botcity> HAKMASTER, why are you partitioning to none default for the install? i would do a spare partition no need to call it anything special
[20:41] <coz_> ardchoille,  oh so ONLY nautilus is not respecting them,,,,yes?
[20:41] <Arachon> I was wondering in which folder an smb share is mounted, I can't find it in /media
[20:41] <Geekydude4> If someone could talk to me in person not on the main window I need help (it will take 10sec.)
[20:41] <Samo502> okenobi_: hmm, i need to change my default as well. being that a lot of my other boot entries got deleted the default is way higher than the partition number
[20:41] <ardchoille> coz_: correct, other apps are fine in Unity
[20:41] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:41] <Geekydude4> If someone could talk to me in person not on the main window I need help (it will take 10sec.)
[20:42] <nit-wit> Kevin147, cool the tux angles have answered.;)
[20:42] <MethedMan> anybody know how to configure a samba print server
[20:42] <qin> rpk: Do you have access (phisical) to server?
[20:42] <Samo502> okenobi_: give me a few minutes, i'll try it out and get back to you
[20:42] <sudipta> qin:trying for the last time to boot into unity
[20:42] <tripelb> botcity. yes. that was automatic. I didnt have to do anything. Remember I said that I can boot on A, read a file on B, open it, edit it, save it. Thus B is mounted.
[20:42] <sweb> qin, so what can i do to change gnome setting ? change appearance ?
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <rpk> qin: yes, I'm on it
[20:42] <okenobi_> Samo502: good luck
[20:42] <ardchoille> coz_: how much trouble would I cause myself to try an uninstall/reinstall of nautilus?
[20:42] <Geekydude4> If someone could talk to me in person not on the main window I need help (it will take 10sec.)
[20:42] <HAKMASTER> botcity if want to create another parition ex: /media/data a separate parition other then /
[20:42] <milen8204> how to make classic appearance to ubuntu 11.04 any one knows ?
[20:42] <TiagoTiago> Is there an installer i can run on Windows to install Ubuntu (on another partition) ?
[20:42] <rpk> qin: I'm actually remoting into the other servers over rdp and vnc, and trying to connect back into it
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <Asdfg_> I was wondering if you can still use Windows if you install Wubi
[20:42] <HAKMASTER> botcity i used to do it with Ubuntu 10.x and it works fine
[20:42] <FloodBot1> Asdfg_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:42] <tripelb> Asdfg_, yes, but if you BOOT from WUBI you cannot use Windows. If you BOOT from Windows, you cannot use WUBI.
[20:43] <coz_> ardchoille,  ok  I may have to log into Unity to test this one,, if it is the same for me then it is most likely a bug,, hold on a few minutes
[20:43] <Geekydude4> If someone could talk to me in person not on the main window I need help (it will take 10sec.)
[20:43] <ardchoille> coz_: kk, thank you
[20:43] <sexygurl2furl> hey coz_ can you help me?
[20:43] <coz_> ardchoille,  well hold on until I return
[20:43] <Tonus> !ask | Geekydude4
[20:43] <raven_> WHY there is an open connection to screenshots.ubuntu.com?
[20:43] <botcity> HAKMASTER, sorry not sure then!
[20:43] <velory> Hello I'm using natty, I want to start Guake Terminal everytime I open ubuntu. But I couldn't find in preferences any idea ?
[20:44] <harovali> hi , i'm trying to set up a wireless modem, and I put all the configuration in NetworkManager . However, the option to connect to the network it should enable, does not appear in left-clicking in the doble arrow menu. ANy hint ?
[20:44] <sexygurl2furl> Does anybody here know how to fix my problem?
[20:44] <rgoytacaz> Is there a way to go back to post-install state in Ubuntu?
[20:44] <BlouBlou> sexygurl2furl: what problem?
[20:44] <ardchoille> velory: you need to put an item in starup programs for guake
[20:44] <Geekydude4> Looking at C code in terminal. How do you exit? It says ^X but what does that mean?
[20:44] <TiagoTiago> Damn, after it failed to upgrade to 11.somthing i can't boot Ubuntu anymore :(
[20:44] <qin> rpk: You want to start with basic sevice (ssh | nc) and monitor connection on server, on Natty ckeck lan and resolve.
[20:44] <ardchoille> velory: System > Preferences > Start up Applications
[20:45] <sexygurl2furl> BlouBlou, Ubuntu won't boot right.
[20:45] <sexygurl2furl> :/
[20:45] <BlouBlou> Geekydude4: 'ctrl + c'
[20:45] <Arachon> I was wondering in which folder an smb share is mounted, I can't find it in /media
[20:45] <escott> Geekydude4, ctrl-c or q
[20:45] <velory> ardchoille:  thanks.
[20:45] <truepurple>  nit-wit : Any ideas?
[20:45] <TiagoTiago> says somthing along the lines of "the drive for / is not ready to mount"
[20:45] <Geekydude4> Will that exit all terminal or just that screen?
[20:45] <qin> sweb: You need to know that Unity do not have that rich configuration as Gnome, yet.
[20:45] <velory> ardchoille:  and one more thing is, for e.g. f12 is opening volume like in Mac. But in Mac OSX I can change F keys to functions
[20:45] <velory> can I do that here ?
[20:45] <escott> Geekydude4, just the program you are using to view
[20:46] <nit-wit> trucMuche, I'm typing
[20:46] <botcity> tripelb, which ubuntu are you on ? your hard drive partitions should come up ???GB file system in places
[20:46] <sexygurl2furl> Can somebody please help me this urgent!!!
[20:46] <sweb> qin, how can i completly remove it and use stable gnome v like 10.10
[20:46] <nit-wit> truepurple, I'm typing sorry trucMuche
[20:46] <ardchoille> velory: hmm.. I don't know, never messed with those
[20:47] <kurtul> sexygurl2furl: did it ever work?
[20:47] <velory> ardchoille:  because now in guake I have to press shift + f12 instead of f12 :)
[20:47] <Geekydude4> Thank you! its ctrl+x
[20:47] <BlouBlou> sweb: you don't need to remove anything. Just go to GDM menu (in where you select users), click on yours, and below, see a small box, in there, change ubuntu session and select 'classic-session'
[20:47] <velory> I changed it because f12 was only opening volume
[20:47] <sexygurl2furl> kurtul, yes can i pm you?
[20:47] <qin> sweb: Do not remove Unity, just, at login Chose Classic Gnome (bottom bar, after to choose user, before password)
[20:47] <ardchoille> velory: I seem to remember that being an option within guake, try the guake settings
[20:47] <GNUtoo> hi, my ssh key is as user, how can I mount an sshfs directory, I tried sudo -E, HOME=/home/gnutoo sudo -E,sudo etc....
[20:47] <coz_> ardchoille,   ok I am on unity ...let me test the themes ,, hold on
[20:47] <qin> ^choose
[20:47] <truepurple> nit-wit: "trucmuche"? I found another thread of someone describing something similar http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742071
[20:47] <velory> k
[20:47] <sweb> qin, i need stable v of gnome with good support
[20:48] <GNUtoo> that thing should have taken 2 s and it's like 15min that I'm at it
[20:48] <BlouBlou> sweb: did you read what I told you?
[20:48] <qin> sweb: Gnome in Natty is stable (I thinks same version what Maveric)
[20:48] <coz_> ardchoille,  looks like nautilus is respecting the themes here :(
[20:48] <zombor> has anyone gotten ubuntu working with an intel i3 with the GMA 2000 video? i can't seem to get anything to display
[20:48] <coz_> ardchoille,  this has to be something on  your end
[20:48] <nit-wit> truepurple, good luck I hope hyou get to the bottom of it I see to many ouliers to really tell what is up
[20:48] <plustax> is it difficult to add windows 7 to my ubuntu 10.10 machine?
[20:48] <sweb> qin, BlouBlou, i know but on ubuntu classic also i cant change appearance . all themes are same with old icons style and gray color of paneles
[20:48] <tripelb> botcity I'm a bit unclear but I can try: 10.04,gnome. B is a 9.8G filesystem. It's not 10.04 but it's something earlier. I think. Can I tell without booting into it?
[20:48] <ardchoille> coz_: Ah, good to know. I'll try a fresh install of 11.04 next week. Thank you very much for the info :)
[20:48] <plustax> I want to dual boot and add windows to it
[20:48] <TiagoTiago> Wubi doesn't install Ubuntu the same way the bootable cd/dvd does, right?
[20:49] <nit-wit> plustax, if you have partition space  no
[20:49] <coz_> ardchoille,  no problem.. if you can ,, download the minmal install cd
[20:49] <BlouBlou> sweb: Then go to System >> Preferences >> themes or something like that
[20:49] <qin> sweb: Did you get themes, are they installed?
[20:49] <nit-wit> plustax, what is installed now
[20:49] <ardchoille> coz_: I think I am going to buy a cd or dvd from shop.canonical.com, I like to support Ubuntu as much as possible.
[20:49] <tripelb> how can I tell what ubuntu is on a disk without booting into it. where do I look? I can read the disk.
[20:49]  * TiagoTiago sighs
[20:49] <harovali> hi , i'm trying to set up a wireless modem, and I put all the configuration in NetworkManager . However, the option to connect to the network it should enable, does not appear in left-clicking in the doble arrow menu. ANy hint ?
[20:49] <plustax> nit-wit I have ubuntu 10.10 installed only
[20:50] <coz_> ardchoille,  ok cool...although the minimal install cd I think is about 12 megs
[20:50] <BlouBlou> LjL-Temp: maybe -bbbb ? :P
[20:50] <coz_> ardchoille,  not likely a download error and especially if you burn at 1x
[20:50] <nit-wit> plustax, do you know the partition amount limitations on a single HD
[20:50] <BlouBlou> err, LjL: ^
[20:50] <LjL> BlouBlou: can't do that from the gui, and i'm not going to type all these addresses manually
[20:50] <ardchoille> coz_: That small?! Nice. You have a good point
[20:50] <zvacet> nit-wit: 4 primary
[20:50] <plustax> nit-wit I do not. I'm not very good at linux
[20:51] <coz_> ardchoille,  yes it also installs via the net,, and is completely up to date when finished
[20:51] <jfroebe> getting used to Unity on 11.04..  anyone have a link to the key bindings?
[20:51] <OY1R> i just bootrd up mu laptop and get Busy box v1.153 ubuntu 1:1.15.1 ubuntu built in shell (initframfs)_
[20:51] <MethedMan> i am having trouble getting my windows machine to connect with the samba print server on a linux machine.  any help would appreciated
[20:51] <OY1R> running ubuntu 10.10
[20:51] <botcity> tripelb, in places  it should show you the partition 9.8GB double click it ..is that what you did ?
[20:51] <isibilir> hi i come back )
[20:51] <coz_> ardchoille,  the only th ing to remember is when asked what you actually want to install   use the Space bar to choose and the arrow buttons to scroll..not the ENTER button
[20:51] <GNUtoo> fixed with ssh-agent
[20:51] <zvacet> nit-wit: but you can have 3 primary and one extended and inside extended one make more partitions
[20:51] <ardchoille> coz_: kk
[20:52] <sweb> BlouBlou, qin, i'm expert ubuntu user. i'm php programmer that i can compile complex mod, module and plugins for LAMP. i know where can i change the theme. System > Preferences > Appearance > Theme. all theme in list like Dust, Ambiance and etc.. gnome still have old icons and old colors. gnome looks like completely splinted
[20:52] <TiagoTiago> Can i install Ubuntu from Windows the same way it is done with the bootable installer disk?
[20:52] <qin> TiagoTiago: No
[20:52] <coz_> ardchoille,  I have that cd on my maverick install in dropbox  I could try to upload to speedyshare if you want
[20:52] <Kingsy101> guys how do I set a static local IP address on my local machine?
[20:52] <isibilir> can you tell someone how can i install nvidia 8400gs driver?
[20:53] <ardchoille> coz_: I don't have any blank media ATM, will buy some in a few days. Thanks though :)
[20:53] <Stava1> Can I make it so that the sidebar in unity dont automatically (never) hide?
[20:53] <Kingsy101> ifconfig tells me its changed from 192.168.0.11 to 192.168.0.4 I need to change it to 192.168.0.11 perminatly
[20:53] <isibilir> i am new user ubuntu (linux)
[20:53] <ardchoille> coz_: may I pm you?
[20:53] <SADSDDSDSASDA> hi
[20:53] <kate__> Tried my live cd again. It shows me lines of code in my BIOS font, like it's working, and then says 'udevd - work (84): /sbin/modprobe -bv pci:(string of letters and numbers which I did write down) unexpected exit with status 0x0009.
[20:53] <coz_> ardchoille,  sure
[20:53] <a2c4n9e1> trying to install natty, but when i got to the partition thing, i can't set the mount point manually. any idea why?
[20:53] <OY1R> i just bootrd up mu laptop and get Busy box v1.153 ubuntu 1:1.15.1 ubuntu built in shell (initframfs)_ (i thing the battery died while in hibernation)
[20:53] <Kevin147> nit-wit: One thing I did notice tho, xchat is a little laggy? õ.õ
[20:54] <silverpt> Hello all. I'm having trouble instaling 11.04 on a Acer Aspire Laptop. As soon as ubunto CD boots the display backlight turns off. any clue?
[20:54] <extraclassic> Kingsy101: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-static-ip/
[20:54] <ubuntu_> hey, I'm installing ubuntu 11.04 from a USB stick. When I click on the install icon in the live session, it unmounts the hard drive (or, I assume it does, as it goes from my desktop) and, although it's just unmounted it (it's /dev/sda) it asks whether I want to unmount it. Whatever I click, when it gets to the partition screen, it doesn't give me the choice to install it to hd, only the memory stick it's already on.
[20:54] <isibilir> can you tell someone how can i install nvidia 8400gs driver?
[20:54] <trism> Stava1: yes, in ccsm, under the unity plugin Hide Launcher/Never, you may need to install compizconfig-settings-manager first
[20:54] <okenobi> TiagoTiago: I got the same error you did. I'm now trying to upgrade from command line
[20:54] <botcity> tripelb, also it does not matter which ubuntu was on the partition as long as it was not encrypted
[20:54] <nanana_> ^^
[20:54] <Stava1> trism, thanks
[20:54] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: did you choose manual way or whatever it name is
[20:54] <nit-wit> Kevin147, I thought it was my walnut sized brain.;)
[20:54] <sexygurl2furl> Can somebody please help me fix Ubuntu, it won't boot properly.
[20:54] <qin> isibilir: Mostly we use jockey to obtain driver, jockey-txt with no gui, but nvidia drivers from web should have install notes or script.
[20:55] <okenobi> TiagoTiago: seems to work ... I'll keep you posted!
[20:55] <sweb>  qin, any idean ?
[20:55] <MC8> Is it possible to make the Unity sidebar float right?
[20:55] <MC8> (as opposed to left?)
[20:55] <isibilir> qin: how?
[20:55] <Kingsy101> extraclassic - yeah I was looking at that but, my interfaces file only contains 2 lines
[20:55] <erichammond> I've already gotten used to having the application menu in the top bar (unity) but I noticed that Emacs does not currently work this way.  Each window has its own menu still.  Are there plans to make this consistent?
[20:55] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: i chose erase ubuntu and then i clicked advance partitioning
[20:55] <Kingsy101> it looks NOTHING like that example
[20:56] <Kingsy101> should I just add a "address 192.168.0.11" line ? and thats it ?
[20:56] <TiagoTiago> okenobi: opened a program i shouldn't have and had to reboot and now it won't boot, it complains about / not being ready to be mounted or somthing
[20:56] <isibilir> qin: i dont find really
[20:56] <qin> sweb: Puzzled, hm, if you say that gnome do not let you do something, update would be first reaction.
[20:56] <truepurple> Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, I have come into a strange blank screen, here are the details- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837 can anyone help?
[20:56] <kapare_> oups
[20:56] <qin> isibilir: Find what?
[20:56] <kate__> Repeating: "It shows me lines of code in my BIOS font, like it's working, and then says 'udevd - work (84): /sbin/modprobe -bv pci:(string of letters and numbers which I did write down) unexpected exit with status 0x0009."
[20:56] <z0mbyk1d> hey, I am on karmic server right now
[20:57] <z0mbyk1d> how should i upgrade to natty?
[20:57] <tripelb> botcity, I dont know how to copy files from that drive to this drive. I dont have permissions. I know the password to both drives. I would do it in terminal if I knew how to copy cirectories and subdirectories. I dont think the cp command works for that, does it?  Then could I use sudo? That doesnt make sense because root on A wouldnt have permissions on B. Of course I know the password to B, it's mine and I can boot from it. (I must l
[20:57] <tripelb> augh right, heh. This is such a tangle of nothing.)
[20:57] <isibilir> qin: how can install nvidia drivers
[20:57] <z0mbyk1d> was there an l release? i forget
[20:57] <kate__> It's a properly burned live cd with an image file that checked out.
[20:57] <Neo_> hi, how can i change Xserver drivers directory?
[20:57] <z0mbyk1d> karmic... maverick... natty?
[20:57] <zvacet> kate__: did you check md5sum of your iso
[20:57] <sweb> qin, how can i reset gnome setting completely ?
[20:57] <kate__> Yes.
[20:57] <isibilir> qin: can you send me a link for nvidia 8400gs driver ubuntu 11.04
[20:58] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: anything?
[20:58] <Kingsy101> anyone?
[20:58] <akashm1990> I downloaded the .deb file of Revenge of the Titans, installed it using ubuntu software center. Now, when I try too launch it using the software launcher nothing happens. Using Ubuntu 10.10. Any ideas?
[20:58] <qin> isibilir: In console, type: jockey-text, need connection to Internet, if no driver is detected, try to search for mesa support for your card.
[20:58] <silverpt> Hello all. I'm having trouble instaling 11.04 on a Acer Aspire Laptop. As soon as ubunto CD boots the display backlight turns off. any clue?
[20:58] <extraclassic> Kingsy101: you'll need the netmask and stuff
[20:58] <qin> kate__: It would be easier to try Usb approach.
[20:59] <kate__> The hash checked out with "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso" which is what my image file is.
[20:59] <ubuntu_> hey, I'm installing ubuntu 11.04 from a USB stick. When I click on the install icon in the live session, it unmounts the hard drive (or, I assume it does, as it goes from my desktop) and, although it's just unmounted it (it's /dev/sda) it asks whether I want to unmount it. Whatever I click, when it gets to the partition screen, it doesn't give me the choice to install it to hd, only the memory stick it's already on.
[20:59] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: you should see your partitions and decide on witch one you will install and mark partition as root and ext4
[20:59] <Kingsy101> extraclassic - so change    iface lo inet loopback   to     iface lo inet static     and then insert the other info below ?
[20:59] <Kingsy101> extraclassic - is that right ?
[21:00] <qin> silverpt: You mean no display or dimmed?
[21:00] <extraclassic> Kingsy101: you need to leave loopback but add another entry for static
[21:00] <Kingsy101> extraclassic - ah ok
[21:00] <zvacet> kate__: I don´t know try to lower speed or different cd
[21:00] <Kingsy101> thanks
[21:00] <TiagoTiago> o£
[21:00] <truepurple> Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, I have come into a strange blank screen, here are the details- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837 can anyone help?
[21:00] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: i see all my partition. and i want to make new partition table from scratch. i'm planing to have root, /var, /cache, /cache1
[21:00] <TiagoTiago> oops
[21:00] <stevecam> my desktop keeps on reloading and is in an unusable state, is this a common prob, ive ran the upgrade to 11.04 and im using gnome
[21:01] <coz_> stevecam,  no it is not that I am aware of
[21:01] <coz_> stevecam,  how did you install this,,, via live cd ,,,yes?
[21:01] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: if you don´t have valuable files on them delete all partitions and start making new
[21:01] <qin> ubuntu_: Make sure your HD is mounted
[21:01] <jbeatty> http://goo.gl/hFaWK Ubuntu press release; try Ctrl-F "Linux". :/ This is embarrassing. Shame on you, Canonical.
[21:01] <stevecam> via the update screen
[21:01] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: but when i want to make a mount point for the /cache and /cache1 i was unable to do so, due to the mount point option can't be manually edited
[21:01] <stevecam> no cd
[21:01] <coz_> stevecam,  ok this is an upgrade from maverick to natty...yes?
[21:02] <mbroeker> stevecam, what kind of gpu do you have?
[21:02] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: i'm making a new partitionin...like i said
[21:02] <botcity> i have two file systems like yours one with 11.04 and 9.10 and i used the file manager to transfer pics and files from one to the other maybe its encrypted?
[21:02] <stevecam> nvidia, and it was 10.10 to 11.04
[21:02] <ohsix> jbeatty: do you need help? you might try #ubuntu-offtopic otherwise, this is a help channel
[21:02] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: why cache can you use media or something like that
[21:02] <jmcantrell_> on the ubuntu certification page, does anyone know what it means when it says "pre-installed only"
[21:02] <mbroeker> stevecam, i had the same problem today. your card is not able to run unity and your card is not blacklisted
[21:03] <coz_> stevecam,  what you might want to try is going to system/administration/additional drivers... remove the driver,, reboot  and then install it again
[21:03] <Neo_> hi, i compiled xf86-video-ati from git and i installed it in a non canonical directory and now i don't know how to make the system load this driver in this directory instead of the deafult one; can anyone help me?
[21:03] <stevecam> coz_, im unable to do that, i will have to do it through CLI
[21:03]  * ceed^ is away: Auto-away after 1 mins idle (gone at 29th Apr, 15:03:57)
[21:04] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: i can use any name for the new partition, but the problem is the installer won't let me type manually. i have to choose from the drop down list
[21:04] <jbeatty> ohsix, people who need help normally are newbies. Just wanted these people to know that the Ubuntu project is profiting on the backs of developers they don't even credit in their press releases.
[21:04] <raven_> WHY there is an open connection to screenshots.ubuntu.com?
[21:04] <truepurple> Upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, I have come into a strange blank screen, here are the details- http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837 can anyone help?
[21:04] <mbroeker> stevecam, add "deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty-proposed restricted main multiverse universe" to /etc/apt/sources.list and perform a full-upgrade
[21:04] <ohsix> jbeatty: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:05] <tripelb> truepurple I appreaciate your pose
[21:05] <ohsix> Neo_: well, you should have looked at your other options before building it yourself; for example, the xorg-edgers ppa already builds it almost daily, and it installs it in the right place / works; so if you can clean up the mess, try the ppa
[21:05] <Pici> raven_: If you're looking at Software Center, thats where it gets its application screenshots from.
[21:05] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: so choose whatever you want and don ´ know if you can type name manually
[21:05] <tripelb> truepurple I appreciate your prose
[21:05] <jon7> i just installed a clean version of 11.04 on my laptop, when i boot the system a black screen comes up and the cursor blinks, nothing else happens. is there some crap i can hack in /boot/grub/grub.cfg?
[21:05] <raven_> Pici, ok
[21:05] <blurgh> Has anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse? Or is it depending on developers to fix it?
 why you don't try a clean install
[21:05] <okenobi> TiagoTiago: try to use a CD and then to chroot (do you know what I'm talking about) ?
[21:05] <truepurple> HAKMASTER:  I don't have it on disk
[21:05] <KrisDouglas> if you had an NVIDIA driver (proprietary) and installed 11.04, you wont be able to boot. You have to SSH into your machine, wget the nvidia driver and reboot.
 ohh , well i always prefer a clear install rather than upgrading =)\
[21:06] <TiagoTiago> kinda, i have a general idea of what chrooting is, but no idea how it is actually done
[21:06] <stevecam> mbroeker, why de.ubuntu?
[21:06] <botcity> tripelb, try drag and drop with nautilus?
[21:06] <stevecam> is that just a mirror location?
[21:06] <coz_> truepurple,  can you burn a disk there?
[21:06] <tripelb> why dont you try to tell me how to repartion my drive .. I need to squeeze stuff together so I can repartition. Like defrag. But I dont know how. I have used ONLY 15% of 884G
[21:07] <Neo_> ohsix, ok thanks, then i'll try to install it in the default directory
[21:07] <mbroeker> stevecam, yes, use your own line. just activate the proposed repo
[21:07] <truepurple> coz_:  I can not burn any disks unless it is possible to revert back to 10.10 or otherwise get ubuntu to work
[21:07] <okenobi> TiagoTiago: http://goo.gl/eXUtz
[21:07] <ohsix> Neo_: ehh, just use the ppa
[21:07] <tripelb> botcity. I dont have permission. that's what it tells me when I do that. I have done that already.
[21:07] <Vustom> Is it just me or when I select to keep launchers in Unity 3D (Ubuntu 11.4) they don't stay there when reboot?
[21:07] <TiagoTiago> I've been without my desktop machine for months, and just moved in to a new place, gotta search for virgin media and download an image
[21:07] <tripelb> botcity, how come you dont believe me?
[21:07] <ohsix> Neo_: theres another ppa they run that just has stable driver updates in it as well
[21:07] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: the options only "/", /boot /home, /tmp, /usr, /var, /srv, /opt, /usr/local can't i use other than that?
[21:07] <coz_> truepurple,   well it should work,, what are your system specs?   cpu   video memory
[21:07] <truepurple> coz_: I listed it in the thread link
[21:07] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: I don´t think so
[21:08] <TiagoTiago> opening
[21:08] <truepurple> coz_:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10739837#post10739837
[21:08] <tripelb> TiagoTiago, that's a question? what are you using, a laptop?  What is a virgin media?
[21:08] <botcity> tripelb, i do
[21:08] <vivid> how do i configure the unity panel?
[21:08] <stevecam> mbroeker, ok thanks
[21:08] <KrisDouglas> vivid you can't.
[21:08] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: so if i need other partition name other than that, how can i do that?
[21:08] <Neo_> ohsix, my purpose was to install ubuntu natty graphics driver(mesa too) to ubuntu 10.10
[21:08] <tripelb> botcity, what can I do to copy the files or move the user to my A drive.
[21:08] <KrisDouglas> vivid, compiz config settings manager has some basic options
[21:08] <TiagoTiago> that is not how you call it in English?
[21:08] <vivid> KrisDouglas, i cant? thats pretty opposite of free as in freedom
[21:08] <KrisDouglas> vivid, tell me about it.
[21:09] <coz_> truepurple,  ok that seems like it definitly should work,, the only think i personally would question is the ati card since I know nothing about ati
[21:09] <tripelb> TiagoTiago, call what? you mean a brand new optical disk?
[21:09] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: I really don´t know
[21:09] <a2c4n9e1> used to be able to name custom mount point for partition :(
[21:09] <TiagoTiago> blank disks
[21:09] <TiagoTiago> yeah
[21:09] <Neo_> ohsix, that's because i noticed that thoose drivers works better than theese
[21:09] <ohsix> Neo_: then you add the sources and use package pinning; but it is still somethingn you don't want to do, there were 2 xorg abi updates that natty rolled in iirc
[21:09] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet thanks
[21:09] <tripelb> TiagoTiago, cool. Did you get a new desktop?
[21:09] <KrisDouglas> vivid, sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[21:09] <KrisDouglas> then search for Unity on the left hand side
[21:09] <truepurple> coz_:  With facing these strange blinking dashes, does that mean it is not installing?
[21:09] <vivid> i just want to right click and delete or add
[21:09] <vivid> change the order
[21:09] <KrisDouglas> you can only change things like hiding and key combinations though
[21:10] <kate__> Tried it with a USB... same error. Different work[number] but the same long string of letters/numbers and message.
[21:10] <a2c4n9e1> anyone know how to use custom mountpoint name for a new installation??? please....
[21:10] <Jasonn> How do I uninstall a program I installed through compiling?
[21:10] <KrisDouglas> vivid, you can't do that
[21:10] <tripelb> I have 2 Ubuntu installations on different drives, what can I do to copy the files or move the user to my A drive.
[21:10] <TiagoTiago> bought new mobo video card and case, got all the parts yesterday
[21:10] <vivid> KrisDouglas, pretty much a total fail then, looks like were being pushed to proprietary "use it our way"
[21:10] <armor-64> can someine tell me how to hide the sidebar on ubuntu 11.04?please help
[21:10] <ohsix> Neo_: unfortunately due to changes in natty the ppa stopped doing daily builds for maverick and older some time ago; otherwise you could just use it for updated drivers for mav as well
[21:10] <KrisDouglas> vivid, I saw it in a "Oh they obviously haven't finished it yet" light.
[21:10] <Jasonn> armor-64: What day number is it today?
[21:11] <zvacet> tripelb: boot in live cd and with gparted shrink your partition and on unallocated space make new one
[21:11] <vivid> yet published it as the default environment
[21:11] <stevecam> armor-64, place a thick piece of stickytape over the left hand side of the screen?
[21:11] <KrisDouglas> which begs the question, why give it to users as the default then??
[21:11] <a2c4n9e1> somebody?
[21:11] <kate__> I pressed enter to interrupt normal cd start and selected 'try ubuntu without installing' and a line of green illegible letters started scrolling down like I was suddenly in the Matrix.
[21:11] <fosser_josh> vuze problem in 11.04 vuze: Depends: azureus but it is not going to be installed. same problem faced during 10.04 last year. why this is so
[21:11] <erichammond> mmond
[21:11] <Neo_> ohsix, ok i'll try it; thanks
[21:11] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: sorry I was not much of help  :(
[21:11] <Enissay> Hi all, can anyone help me to get the streaming link of a channel from it's page on facebook please?
[21:11] <jmcantrell_> anyone use a thinkpad t420 or t520?
[21:11] <Metaxa> armor-64: If you maximize the window you are working in, it auto-hides
[21:11] <johnathan> ok, so... I am trying to install the Japanese input on iBus, but i keep getting this message: http://pastebin.com/DdVcWxw3
[21:11] <armor-64> no i mean hide it foreve
[21:11] <Jasonn> fosser_josh: #vuze
[21:11] <KrisDouglas> vivid, tip... in the login screen options, change boot to Ubuntu Classic :)
[21:12] <johnathan> and it doesn't install afterwards
[21:12] <coz_> truepurple,  blinking dashes... I suppose you could try  rebooting holding down the left shift key to get to grub menu,, hit   "e"  to edit the kernel stanza adding   nomodeset  just before quiet splash and see if it boots then
[21:12] <vivid> how do i install gnome-shell in natty?
[21:12] <vivid> or gnome 3.0 ui
[21:12] <fosser_josh> Jasonn: but is repo problem
[21:12] <coz_> truepurple,   not sure that will help but cant hurt either
[21:12] <Metaxa> armor-64: You want to completely remove it?
[21:12] <ohsix> vivid: there's a ppa, but it's not really supported here
[21:12] <stevecam> vivid, i thought that it was gnome-terminal
[21:12] <vivid> .....
[21:12] <coz_> stevecam,  it is gnome-terminal
[21:13] <KrisDouglas> johnathan, I think you can use apt-get -f install (or am I completely wrong?)
[21:13] <truepurple> coz_:  Could it possibly be installing at the moment behind this blank screen? If it is installing at this moment, restarting could screw it up
[21:13] <HAKMASTER> Ubuntu 11.0.4 looks like MAC
[21:13] <vivid> so we avoid using the new gnome ui to present our own and then dont even include gnome's?  sounds sketchy
[21:13] <DasEi> Enissay: can try, pm me
[21:13] <coz_> truepurple,  actually, probably not
[21:13] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: come on... its okay, we're all learning here. perhaps someone else know about my problem
[21:13] <jmcantrell_> anyone use a thinkpad t420 or t520?
[21:13] <armor-64> Metaxa : Yes,i want to use Ubuntu classic without it
[21:13] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, unlikely, its just your desktop can't load. You have to ssh into your machine and install the graphics driver in text mode.
[21:13] <johnathan> KrisDouglas, I haven't tried that... if you wanna gimme the exact snax for it, i can try it
[21:13] <coz_> truepurple,   it would be showing an idication of what is being installed if it were installing and you have a text terminal / black screen with cursor blinking
[21:13] <coz_> truepurple,   seems something is hanging
[21:14] <johnathan> KrisDouglas, I am still a noobie at codes for terminal
[21:14] <zvacet> fosser_josh: do you have universe repo enabled
[21:14] <ohsix> vivid: we? ubuntu still ships gnome2, if you want it use the classic session; newer versions will include gnome3 after it's had some time to breathe, it was only just released
[21:14] <Metaxa> armor-64: Have you logged out of Unity and switched to Classic?
[21:14] <tripelb> zvacet, how much can I shrink it and not destroy any files. I read that ext4 spreads files out on the HD, unlike NTFS
[21:14] <kate__> This is what I get if I let it just run: "udevd - work[84]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v00001002d00009591sv000017AAsd00002116bc03sc00i00' unexpected exit with status 0x0009"
[21:14] <vivid> ohsix, yet it was included in past releases
[21:14] <ohsix> vivid: it was not
[21:14] <Rehan> wow i guess a watched ubuntu install never finishes. Left it on overnight and it had actually installed w/o erroring out this time.
[21:14] <KrisDouglas> johnathan, Solution seems to be detailed in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1327907
[21:14] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: tnx for comfort
[21:14] <kate__> And then it stops.
[21:14] <vivid> ohsix, check that....http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome-shell&searchon=names&suite=maverick&section=all
[21:14] <fosser_josh> zvacet: yah
[21:14] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: Well, I was having trouble with my video card drivers before updating even, I had a corrupted driver I couldn't remove, and was not sure what driver to use
[21:15] <zvacet> tripelb: you will se how nuch
[21:15] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: What is ssh?
[21:15] <armor-64> Metaxa : yes to see if it change my setting on the top bar
[21:15] <ohsix> tripelb: filesystems already store everything all over the disk; theres really no distinction between filesystems in that regard, you're probably thinking of extents which are new in 4
[21:15] <ohsix> vivid: i said gnome3
[21:15] <vivid> gnome-shell = gnome-shell = gnome3
[21:15] <tarek> hi all I have a problem and i want help
[21:15] <Metaxa> armor-64: Let me try a few things
[21:15] <zvacet> fosser_josh: both packages are from that repo I don´t see reason why they do bot install
[21:16] <a2c4n9e1> okay, simple problem, can i have two partition with the same mount point? how will i address each partition?
[21:16] <Olson> hello, I have ubuntu 11.04, upgrade from 10.04, the dialogue here show my NVIDIA display driver is not in use, is this just because I use the "classic no effects" setup, or does it need further investigation:  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/11715
[21:16] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, its remote shell (like remote desktop but it gives you a terminal.) sadly, if you don't know what that is, its likely to not be installed, and thus your install could be hosed.
[21:16] <MACscr> this probably being asked a lot the past two days, but can we not upgrade to 11.04 until all the PPA's we use upgrade to netty as well?
[21:16] <ohsix> vivid: gnome-shell 2.31 was from 2010, and was a development release
[21:16] <kate__> I get the same error using a cd or a usb.
[21:16] <tripelb> zvacet, OK. I didnt know that. I keep learning stuff late. I started on a learning about linux website this week. -- I have another question if you would be so kind. (separate line)
[21:16] <armor-64> Metaxa : OK
[21:16] <Makoo> siema
[21:16] <tripelb> zvacet - I have 2 Ubuntu installations on different drives, what can I do to copy the files or move the user on the other to my main drive I have booted up on?  Thanks and thanks.
[21:16] <ohsix> vivid: gnome-shell might be the distinctive feature of gnome3 _now_, but that doesn't mean it was then
[21:16] <RyanCM> I'm running 10.10 amd64, and it's not letting me upgrade to 11.04. Anyone able to help?
[21:16] <zvacet> tripelb: you will see how much space is used so let shrinked partition in bigger then that
[21:16] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, In fact there is one option
[21:16] <fosser_josh> zvacet: is there any solution. coz last year i faced same problem but then later that problem is fixed
[21:17] <Guest30692> Hello, ive upgraded to 11.04 and enjoyed unity but only until i rebooted, now it loads into old design, and if i log out user, im getting alot of gfx glitches,though there is none, if i dont log in (its auto logged in)
[21:17] <KrisDouglas> you could put grub into Single User Mode, remove the nvidia driver and see what happens
[21:17] <TiagoTiago> brb gonna see if i can find a blank disk on the unpacked boxes
[21:17] <vivid> ohsix, so why isnt gnome-shell in the repos now?
[21:17] <mello> Hi, i'm using my music library that is on my NTSF partition. In rhythmbox it loads all songs, in any other musicplayer it doesn't, anyone got an idea?
[21:17] <zvacet> fosser_josh: I don´t use vuze so I don´t know
[21:17] <ohsix> RyanCM: open software properties and have it display updates that aren't lts releases
[21:17] <tripelb> zvacet, OK I understand what you have told me to do so I will go do it today.
[21:17] <TiagoTiago> Hm, wait, can i install from a 2GB usb stick?
[21:17] <johnathan> KrisDouglas, i can't seem to find "Software Resources"
[21:17] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grub-boot-into-single-user-mode/
[21:17] <zvacet> tripelb: ok
[21:17] <jmcantrell_> anyone using a system76 lemur ultrathin?
[21:18] <a2c4n9e1> geez.........
[21:18] <banderl0g> wow..1.8k users
[21:18] <ohsix> vivid: because its dependencies aren't, gnome3 is not; gnome-shell 2.31 ran largely on top of gtk2 and all that stuff, for the developer previews
[21:18] <johnathan> KrisDouglas, Would it be the same as the Software Center?
[21:18] <tripelb> zvacet, did you get my second question (that I have been asking for days here, lol)
[21:18] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: I never get to a grub screen though
[21:18] <tripelb> zvacet - I have 2 Ubuntu installations on different drives, what can I do to copy the files or move the user on the other to my main drive I have booted up on?
[21:18] <johnathan> KrisDouglas, nvmnd, found it
[21:18] <coz_> truepurple,  ooo even if you hold down shift?
[21:18] <kate__> Repeat: When booting from live, it stops and I get this message: "udevd - work[84]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v00001002d00009591sv000017AAsd00002116bc03sc00i00' unexpected exit with status 0x0009"
[21:19] <mello> Hi, i'm using my music library that is on my NTSF partition. In rhythmbox it loads all songs, in any other musicplayer it doesn't, anyone got an idea?
[21:19] <RyanCM> ohsix: No, it's says there's a new version, etc. But when I click the upgrade button, it says i'm not connected to the internet.. but obviously I am.
[21:19] <Diosjoe> Hello, ive upgraded to 11.04 and enjoyed unity but only until i rebooted, now it loads into old design, and if i log out user, im getting alot of gfx glitches,though there is none, if i dont log in (its auto logged in)
[21:19] <truepurple> coz_:  I will try holding down shift
[21:19] <kate__> Checked the hash on the image before burning, burned at low speed on cd, tried with cd and usb.
[21:19] <zvacet> tripelb: not right person for that kind of question
[21:19] <Guest23133> what do you guys think about the Verizon Wireless 4G LTE USB Modem 551L for ubuntu? anyone recommend other usb modems?
[21:19] <ohsix> RyanCM: ah well you should have said that :] most people would interpret your original question as the button you're expecting not being present
[21:19] <sudipta> how to test whether my nvidia card will support unity?
[21:20] <truepurple> coz_:  KrisDouglas  Ok, got to a grub menu, I see a "previous linux version" option, should I pick it?
[21:20] <KrisDouglas> Yes, actually.
[21:20] <Olson> what to do about this please? screenshot:  http://www.pasteall.org/pic/11715
[21:20] <RyanCM> ohsix, yeah, that was my bad. you still got any idea why it would be saying that?
[21:20] <ipo> hello everybody!
[21:20] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, worth a try
[21:20] <ipo> I cant install ubuntu on fujitsu latop
[21:21] <ipo> laptop
[21:21] <engammalsko> Hi, how do I change my 11.04 menu back to the 10.10 menu? The one with two panels.
[21:21] <ipo> please help me!
[21:21] <ohsix> RyanCM: not really; it sounds like a generic failure message that is clobbering the real message
[21:21] <Diosjoe> engammelsko
[21:21] <_Mr_Proper_> Just upgraded to 11.04 - I've switched to ubuntu classic, but the menu that used to be under 'Appearance' to choose the visual effects level has disappeared.. Where has it ogne?
[21:21] <RyanCM> ohsix: i could imagine so. i'll try rebooting. thanks for your replies.
[21:21] <a2c4n9e1> how to make custom partition mount point in 11.04 owhhh ubuntu never got this stiff before.... :(
[21:21] <Olson> engammalsko, when you log in, choose "classic" rather than "unity"
[21:21] <ohsix> engammalsko: pick the classic session on the login screen
[21:21] <coz_> engammalsko,  log off   put your pass word in but before you hit enter  just below change to classic session
[21:21] <engammalsko> Aha, is that all?
[21:21] <zvacet> engammalsko: onlogin screen>session<ubuntu classic
[21:21] <coz_> engammalsko,  or classic   (no effects)  and yes that's it :)
[21:21] <shugyosha> hello
[21:21] <lcb> wow... 1800+ happy users in here :o
[21:22] <diablosraven> im having issues with inconsistant hdd detection
[21:22] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: It says "It seems you do not have the hardware required to run unity. Please choose ubuntu classic at the login screen and you will be using the traditional environment"
[21:22] <Olson> i need happy giving!
[21:22] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: -1 for me!
[21:22] <engammalsko> Ok, is there anything better with the new menu? Or is it just personal taste?
[21:22] <diablosraven> can anyone help me
[21:22] <botcity> kate__, did you use the alternative cd last time ?
[21:22] <RyanCM> ohsix: do you know if it's possible to upgrade via terminal?
[21:22] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, ok, sorry, let me take you off the balance :)
[21:22] <ohsix> _Mr_Proper_: that was just to switch the wm to compiz or run ccsm, you can do that yourself too :] they have tests for compiz now, i think it just automatically runs if it can, then you would need to edit the settings with ccsm
[21:22] <zvacet> lcb: I don´ know about happy if we are here  :)
[21:22] <kate__> Yep.
[21:22] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, accept that message, that's fine.
[21:22] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: lol. i was a happy user until natty ^_^
[21:23] <ohsix> RyanCM: yes, but i haven't used it
[21:23] <KrisDouglas> It should get you into a GUI
[21:23] <Diosjoe> Hello, after updating to 11.04 i could use unity, but after first reboot after the update, it jumps straight to the old design, if i log the user out, i get a lot of graphic disortion, mouse pointer missing etc, though if i relog in i have a slight chance of getting unity back, until i reboot... help please
[21:23] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: It didn't give me a option to choose ubuntu classic, but I loaded into a desktop, now I will see what happens if I restart
[21:23] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, just use classic desktop. you get the same as before
[21:23] <KrisDouglas> wait
[21:23] <lcb> zvacet, :)
[21:23] <TheRedOctober> Hi folks.  Is there a way to have multiple users (on a muti-head/multi-input system) login as the _same_ user and run firefox?  Unfortunately I get the "Firefox instacne already running" popup
[21:23] <_Mr_Proper_> Under additional drivers, it says the nvidia driver is activated but not in use.... If I run glxgears, it runs awfully and not smooth at all.. Sounds like I need to switch something over to be accelerated
[21:23] <botcity> kate__, and  the alternative cd this time ?
[21:23] <scottj`> is there a part on the standard / hierarchy where I can create "files" that are in ram or swap not disk and don't remain on reboot?
[21:23] <subcool> can someone help me with y /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0 creates a loop
[21:23] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, i would recommend installing the latest nvidia driver from the guides on the Ubuntu wiki
[21:23] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: i don't even get to the dektop yet. i'm still going to partition my hard drive for ubuntu
[21:23] <kate__> Same thing.
[21:23] <shugyosha> hy , I have issues with playing video in full screen with all players ( Totem ,vlc, mplayer) since a go from 10.09 to 11.04, the images makes lines like it can't refresh fast enough
[21:24] <KrisDouglas> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[21:24] <RyanCM> I've got a problem. When i click the upgrade button it tells me I don't have an active internet connection.. but, obviously, i do.
[21:24] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: but stuck, unfortunately
[21:24] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: I have only one mouse to swap between these PCs, is there a hotkey for restarting?
[21:24] <shugyosha> can enyone help me ?
[21:24] <ohsix> TheRedOctober: no, they cannot share firefox profiles, you can create multiple ones, but it sounds like you have a problem you're trying to brute force
[21:24] <kbrosnan> TheRedOctober: not without them each having a seperate profile
[21:24] <Rehan> shugyosha: whats your issue?
[21:24] <ipo> KrisDouglas : hey! are you there?
[21:24] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: Except I am using a ATI radeon 6850
[21:24] <KrisDouglas> ctrl+alt+del
[21:24] <KrisDouglas> I am here
[21:24] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, so....? you need a nife? :) j/k what happened?
[21:24] <armor-64> Metaxa : have you found anything?
[21:24] <KrisDouglas> use up and down keys, truepurple
[21:24] <TiagoTiago> The ISO is both a live disk and a installer, right?
[21:24] <kate__> If I toggle the keyboard at the first purple screen, which does appear, it lets me pick a language and gives me a couple of options, but whether I choose try or install, it doesn't work.
[21:24] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: You would recommend nvadia drivers for a ATI card?
[21:24] <Rehan> TiagoTiago: yep
[21:24] <coz_> TiagoTiago,  it should be yes
[21:24] <apatheticsheep> hola
[21:24] <shugyosha> Rehan > I tried to explain
[21:24] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, sorry, assumed you were on NV
[21:25] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: can you lend me a chainsaw instead? lol
[21:25] <ohsix> RyanCM: there are logs in /var/log/dist-upgrade you could look at, i'm not sure if they'd have been written to by the time you get the message you are getting, but it's worth a look
[21:25] <coz_> need to break here,, be back later
[21:25] <kate__> When I just pick 'install,' the green matrix letters start scrolling down the purple screen.
[21:25] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, the same guide is available for ATI
[21:25] <ipo> KrisDouglas: I say when I boot that CD , I see just a background and a pointer of mouse!!
[21:25] <Metaxa> armor-64: Nothing so far, was doing some research but not finding much info on it
[21:25] <Rehan> shugyosha: i just joined the channel :P
[21:25] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: i need to name a custom mountpoint for my partition, but the installer won't let me do so. any workaround for that
[21:25] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, a jackhammer, that's the only thing i use for hard-to-solve issues
[21:25] <TiagoTiago> If i use that universal installer thingy to place the iso on a usb stick, will i be able to install using that?
[21:25] <TheRedOctober> ohsix: roger, i just want to have one login to rule them all....the desktop is locked down.  it is just for data input via firefox
[21:25] <botcity> kate__, what did you use to burn?
[21:25] <shugyosha> hy , I have issues with playing video in full screen with all players ( Totem ,vlc, mplayer) since a go from 10.09 to 11.04, the images makes lines like it can't refresh fast enough
[21:25] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: i know it is not what you want but reinstall 10.10 and make partition as you like after that install natty on root and do not format other just thout
[21:25] <shugyosha> for you Rehan
[21:25] <RyanCM> ohsix: there's nothing in this directory.
[21:25] <kate__> On the cd? Or the USB?
[21:25] <KrisDouglas> ipo, sorry, right. It seems there is either a problem with the machine or the disk if it is not loading past that point
[21:25] <TiagoTiago> usb
[21:25] <botcity> cd
[21:26] <Rehan> TiagoTiago: yeah, thats how i did it
[21:26] <TiagoTiago> i wanna use a USB stick to install on a HDD partition
[21:26] <KrisDouglas> I would recommend trying to burn another disk (or running the disk check from the pre-boot menu on the disk)
[21:26] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, why don't you install 11.04 and do the changes afterwards?
[21:26] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, its not that hard to solve. coz i did it bfore in prev version
[21:26] <ohsix> RyanCM: then you'll need to look in /tmp, if logs still aren't there, then your machine isn't able to even fetch the upgrader
[21:26] <botcity> kate__, cd
[21:26] <kate__> Well, I'm in 10.04lts... I right clicked on the iso and chose 'write to disk' and set it to the lowest speed.
[21:26] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: You think a driver update could fix this problem?
[21:26] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, certainly so.
[21:26] <TiagoTiago> how big does the stick needs to be?
[21:27] <d3vlin> installed natty x64 yesterday, booting shows only a big purple square, no logo. In syslog I see plymouth-splash terminating. Any clues? nvidia-current
[21:27] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, previous were grub2, too
[21:27] <a2c4n9e1> so, 11.04 don't let me make own mountpoint? wow. i wonder why...
[21:27] <ohsix> rye: and if that's the case, you don't have an internet connection for all intents and purposes ... cuz you can't get the file from ubuntu's servers for the upgrade :D you could try changing your mirrors, i'm not sure where it gets the upgrader bundle
[21:27] <armor-64> Metaxa : hmmm......i was using classic edition so far,ichange to ubuntu (normal to see if there will be changes)and now it have stuck in ubuntu classic,can i hide it somehow and use the top and bot bar as in ubuntu 10.10?
[21:27] <KrisDouglas> The problem you are experiencing, truepurple, is the display server cannot load on your card because of an updated kernel.
[21:27] <kate__> I burned the 10.04 disk at the same time, and it worked.
[21:27] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, does 11.04 not using grub2?
[21:27] <mello> hi, I try to load my music library into clementine from an NTFS partition, though roughly half of the songs are not being imported.. But they are visible in rhythmbox
[21:27] <ipo> KrisDouglas: what else I can do?
[21:27] <soja> can someone help me with grub? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10735364#post10735364
[21:27] <truepurple> KrisDouglas: How do I remove the corrupt old driver then? Could we please speak in PM? Less work keeping track of the conversation
[21:27] <d3vlin> the installer CD had a wonderful fullscreen ubuntu splash (1920x1080?)
[21:27] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: newest is nor always best that is why
[21:28] <botcity> kate__, gnomebaker is what i used
[21:28] <KrisDouglas> ipo, other than burning another disk, and trying a USB boot. I am unsure. How much RAM does the machine in question have?
[21:28] <ohsix> mello: it's probably clementine, not the filesystem, though you could rule out the filesystem by copying all of them to another filesystem and trying the same thing, but it's not the filesystem
[21:28] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, yes. the help page for grub2 is pretty good and there are some scenarios, probably what you need too. hold on..
[21:28] <kate__> gnomebaker?
[21:28] <a2c4n9e1> zcvacet: couldn't agree more on that... :)
[21:28] <ipo> KrisDouglas: 4
[21:28] <Metaxa> armor-64: From what I have read so far that doesn't seem to be an option. Wish I could have been more help.
[21:28] <TiagoTiago> the previous upgrades didn't had so many issues, did they? They all went smoothlly for me....
[21:28] <botcity> !burn | kate__
[21:28] <mello> ohsix that's what im trying. Weird thing is, that i think clementine is not the only player having issues with it.
[21:28] <d3vlin> I tried to get more verbose info during boot by removing quiet splash from /etc/default/grub but no luck, still showing the purple square
[21:28] <KrisDouglas> truepurple, see pm
[21:29] <kate__> I burned this latest one exactly according to that page... I also made a USB installer and they both show the same message.
[21:29] <ohsix> mello: did you remove all songs from rhythmbox to see if they all loaded when you readded them?
[21:29] <a2c4n9e1> hmm... i think i'll reinstall the 10.10 now
[21:29] <Diosjoe> Hello, after updating to 11.04 i could use unity, but after first reboot after the update, it jumps straight to the old design, if i log the user out, i get a lot of graphic disortion, mouse pointer missing etc, though if i relog in i have a slight chance of getting unity back, until i reboot... help please << anymore information needed?
[21:29] <subcool> Can somoen please tell me why this string causes a loop? ::::::::::: /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0
[21:29] <Diosjoe> This is my gfx dios@Dios1:~$ sudo lspci | grep ATI
[21:29] <Diosjoe> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility X700 (PCIE)
[21:29] <a2c4n9e1> can 10.10 be upgraded using usb flash drive?
[21:30] <armor-64> Metaxa : no it's ok man thanks for the help,it seem i will format becouse i hate it,are you using it anyway?
[21:30] <mello> ohsix i should try.. but i'm pretty sure I reimported my library several times in rhythmbox.
[21:30] <ohsix> mello: rhythmbox keeps track of songs that have been added and just checks if they're still there; which is different from loading them all originally, it may have worked at one point in the past & rhythmbox may have been able to load all of them, then the disk became damaged
[21:30] <kate__> Yet my image file checks out and I downloaded it three times from three different mirrors to be sure.
[21:30] <harovali> hi , i'm trying to set up a wireless modem, and I put all the configuration in NetworkManager . However, the option to connect to the network it should enable, does not appear in left-clicking in the doble arrow menu. ANy hint ?
[21:30] <botcity> kate__,  what laptop is it or what pc ?
[21:30] <kate__> Thinkpad T500
[21:30] <Metaxa> armor-64: I'm giving it a shot. I was one of the lucky ones that had everything work well for me
[21:30] <mello> ohsix im now copying them, and i'll import in both clementine & rhythmbox
[21:31] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, look at this -> http://goo.gl/0qRRN and this -> http://goo.gl/uMAgK <- better if you do it instead of someone who don't know for real what's going on in there.
[21:31] <subcool> PRETTY PLEASE
[21:31] <ipo> KrisDouglas: 4
[21:31] <Olson> is this bad? everything seems to work ok, but I sometimes do get glitches with new 11.04:   http://www.pasteall.org/pic/11715
[21:31] <Olson> (graphics)
[21:31] <Metaxa> armor-64: Firefox4 although is having some problems staying full screen.
[21:31] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: ok let me read that first. hang on...
[21:31] <ohsix> mello: if you want a clean test run rhythmbox with --dry-run or --rhythmdb-file <newdb> so it wont' use the original database of song information
[21:31] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, i'm hanging / on
[21:32] <armor-64> Metaxa : xaxaxa nice, thanks again!see ya around
[21:32] <kate__> I was running 10.10 on it. I tried to upgrade and it wouldn't boot properly after that. I had to tell it to run a 'previous linux version' but then it ran 11.04. I wanted to do a clean install so I could just start my computer.
[21:32] <mello> ohsix: thanks for the tip, but i just reinstalled maverick ;)
[21:32] <mello> ohsix: thanks for the tip but i just reinstalled :)
[21:32] <lcb> subcool, what's going on with that ' PRETTY_PLEASE ' package?
[21:32] <_Mr_Proper_> I'm running ubuntu classic, but still get those new off-window scrollbars - is there a way to disable them?
[21:33] <tripelb> zvacet, thanks
[21:33] <Diosjoe> Hello, after updating to 11.04 i could use unity, but after first reboot after the update, it jumps straight to the old design, if i log the user out, i get a lot of graphic disortion, mouse pointer missing etc, though if i relog in i have a slight chance of getting unity back, until i reboot... help please << anymore information needed?
[21:33] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, ah.. costumising grub menu. nice info. thanks, gonna try that later after i'm done with basic 11.04.
[21:33] <a2c4n9e1> anyway, lcb,can 10.10 be upgraded using flash drive containing the 11.04 installation. coz my connection is not that lightning fast and its late nite
[21:33] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, see... am i good at construction work or not? ;)
[21:33] <zvacet> tripelb: yw
[21:33] <tripelb> guest23133 (what a headache to type) is there much difference between modems? as long as you dont get a winmodem.
[21:34] <diablosraven> i just installed 10.10 and im going to be installing xbmc but i cant until i get fstab working right every time i reboot the hdd are detected differently can anyone help me
[21:34] <kate__> I have like half an hour to get this started before I leave it for the weekend... probably gonna let it upgrade to 10.10 while I'm away and get back to it on Monday.
[21:34] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, yes it can. use unetbootin to "burn" that flash
[21:34] <MrToad> Hey guys, is there a general chit-chat channel or is that allowed here?
[21:34] <diablosraven> pm pls
[21:34] <Arachon> MrToad: #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:34] <Arachon> I think
[21:34] <tripelb> I'm staying with 10.04 and it works. HAHA
[21:34] <MrToad> Ah great, thansk Arachon
[21:34] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, that summarize why you have all those tools with you. jackhammer and that knife.
[21:34] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, stop, look and wait, though...
[21:35] <MnCC> my taskbar is completly gone .. anyone know how to get it back ?
[21:35] <Rehan> guys is there a way to use Unity without the keyboard to find an app?
[21:35] <phibxr> you still aren't able to install the official google-chrome deb by double clicking it and letting it run in software center? that issue was reported weeks ago. :/
[21:35] <guntbert> !pm | diablosraven
[21:35] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, ok, i'm gonna head straight to the crime scene now. thanks alot
[21:35] <subcool> Can somoen please tell me why this string causes a loop? ::::::::::: /usr/bin/x11vnc -forever -rfbport 5900 -rfbauth ~/.vnc/x11vnc.pass -o ~/.vnc/x11vnc.log -loopbg -display :0
[21:35] <Rehan> phibxr: i just did, it worked fine for me
[21:35] <jmcantrell_> anyone using a system76 lemur ultrathin?
[21:35] <apatheticsheep> a friend of mine stopped by with her netbook which someone was kind enough to install kubuntu on, but she cannot connect to any wireless networks. she was once able to but can no longer.  iwconfig shows the interface and the gui has my wifi configured but ... it doesn't seem to even try to connect.  anyone able to help with this?
[21:36] <MnCC> my startmenu and taskbar are gone ?
[21:36] <diablosraven> ubottu, im trying to keep up but i cant
[21:36] <MnCC> help pleaze
[21:36] <Nightshade_> thats unity
[21:36] <diablosraven> lol
[21:36] <diablosraven> ok
[21:36] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, update and fix 10.10 as it should be, before. do ' sudo -i ' then ' apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get check && apt-get -f install && apt-get autoremove && apt-get clean '
[21:36] <SeRVeR01> hello there what client for yahoo support voice chat ?
[21:36] <phibxr> Rehan, when I click "Install" after a clean install, it works for a second and goes back to the product description screen with the "Install" button. facing the same issue on two laptops and one netbook. :S
[21:36] <kneaux> Safe to assume I can't upgrade directly from 10.04 to 11.04?
[21:36] <guntbert> diablosraven: you can tell your client to ignore the join/part messages
[21:36] <ohsix> MnCC: pick the classic session from the login screen
[21:37] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, then go for it; upgrade
[21:37] <phibxr> Rehan, using gdebi works just fine though.
[21:37] <armor-64> Metaxa : i found the solution,whana hear it?
[21:37] <MnCC> i dont have that on the login screen
[21:37] <Nightshade_> okay i have a question about unity
[21:37] <diablosraven> itll have to wait till i come back i guess
[21:37] <milligan> Just installed 11.04 on a laptop here. When booting the new system, the computer hangs at at the Ubuntu logo, with the dots underneath it. Booting an older kernel will work.
[21:37] <Metaxa> apatheticsheep: Do you know the maker of the wireless chip?
[21:37] <MnCC> i can choose users, thats it
[21:37] <ohsix> MnCC: at the bottom, after you click on your name
[21:37] <Rehan> phibxr: i have no idea what gdebi is :P
[21:37] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, so i need to update 10.10 first. ? ouch, its gonna be a long night
[21:37] <zvacet> kneaux: no you can not
[21:37] <Nightshade_> why is there no place for the "taskbar" applications
[21:37] <jnlsnl_> hmmt he ubuntu font looks much thinner in a pdf than on openoffice =(
[21:37] <cannonball> If an init process says it's "stop/waiting" (initctl disable ufw), does that mean it's going to start next time it reboots or is that not indicated by that output?
[21:37] <Metaxa> armor-64 sure
[21:37] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, that's a must!!!!
[21:37] <MnCC> gonna try it
[21:38] <phibxr> Rehan, the package that was used before software center was associated by .deb's. :)
[21:38] <JoeCoolDesk> I upgraded to 11.04
[21:38] <JoeCoolDesk> That was a mistake
[21:38] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, for everyone, not only for you. so, don't feel a privileged user
[21:38] <Metaxa> armor-64: Sure, what did you find?
[21:38] <kate__> botcity, are you thinking it's just a problem with the laptop?
[21:38] <Nightshade_> JoeCoolDesk you want classic?
[21:38] <ohsix> JoeCoolDesk: if you don't have a question or need help, #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:38] <apatheticsheep> Metaxa: Atheros, AR9285 is what lspci shows.
[21:39] <a2c4n9e1> lcb. hahaha.. i shouldn't remove the partition table in the first place.
[21:39] <Somelauw> Should I already upgrade to 11.4. I really don t care about unity or anything?
[21:39] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, why?
[21:39] <JoeCoolDesk> Now it's sitting on startup "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present"
[21:39] <Nightshade_> is there any way to get the taskbar notifications back?
[21:39] <Somelauw> Since I will use awesome anyway.
[21:39] <cannonball> Ah, initctl show-config.  Thanks.
[21:39] <ActionParsnip> Somelauw: if what you have works, why fix it
[21:39] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, you want to remove everything from that disk, is that your idea?
[21:39] <z0mbyk1d> how should i upgrade to natty server from karmic server?>
[21:39] <zvacet> a2c4n9e1: we learn something every day  ;)
[21:39] <armor-64> Metaxa : if someone dont like it he have just to type (sudo apt-get remove unity)that works for me,and now i am using ubuntu classic version without the side bar!
[21:40] <Metaxa> apatheticsheep: Under additional drivers is her card listed?
[21:40] <botcity> kate__,  im thinking you may have to disable the graphics from bios .. maybe try the normal iso ?
[21:40] <apatheticsheep> Metaxa: lsmod shows ath9x several times.
[21:40] <Diosjoe> Hello, after updating to 11.04 i could use unity, but after first reboot after the update, it jumps straight to the old design, if i log the user out, i get a lot of graphic disortion, mouse pointer missing etc, though if i relog in i have a slight chance of getting unity back, until i reboot... help please << anymore information needed?
[21:40] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, i was erasing my partition table before deciding to install 11.04
[21:40] <kate__> Normal iso?
[21:40] <a2c4n9e1> zvacet: yup lesson learned
[21:40] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, is that an upgrade or "fresh" install?
[21:40] <Metaxa> armor-64: Nice. In a month or so will you give gnome3 a try?
[21:40] <Somelauw> since maybe it is worht it
[21:40] <botcity> you said you use the alternative iso cd
[21:41] <sre-su> Is there a command to lock the screen than a keyboard shortcut?
[21:41] <ohsix> JoeCoolDesk: did you use lvm for / or have some other ad-hoc setup?
[21:41] <apatheticsheep> Metaxa: where would i find "additional drivers" I am more familiar with shell than gui.
[21:41] <kate__> I used both. Someone earlier suggested trying the alternative.
[21:41] <kate__> So I did.
[21:41] <a2c4n9e1> lcb: it was a proxy box anyway, and the setting was backed up. so i thought why not start using 11.04 fresh from the bedshed. :D
[21:42] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, btw, if you are "playing" with the partitions better first backup your /home and probably /etc and /usr
[21:42] <guntbert> !who | kate__
[21:42] <armor-64> Metaxa : gnome3?i haven't hear of it....what's that?
[21:42] <Metaxa> apatheticsheep: System->Admin-> I bvelive
[21:42] <apatheticsheep> Metaxa: nvm i found it there's a search in the K-menu
[21:42] <kate__> botcity, sorry
[21:42] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, i'm trying to RE-installing my pc with the new ubuntu
[21:42] <guntbert> !gnome3 | armor-64
[21:42] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, you might not need /etc and /usr ... it's just in case you have some configs and packages you would like to take a look afterwards
[21:42] <JoeCoolDesk> ohsix, I'm just dual-booting with windows
[21:42] <botcity> kate__,  maybe the normal iso and press f6 and disable the graphic s
[21:43] <ohsix> JoeCoolDesk: what is /?
[21:43] <TiagoTiago> If i install using the ISO will it erase all the files or if i already have the partitons ready it will just copy over the files involved in the install?
[21:43] <JoeCoolDesk> The root of the filesystem?
[21:43] <a2c4n9e1> don't like the term upgrading, coz i thought it might leave some mess
[21:43] <ohsix> JoeCoolDesk: dual booting shouldn't matter or anything, how your filesystem is assembled might have been would be
[21:43] <apatheticsheep> Metaxa: it says "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system" is this a gui for ndiswrapper?
[21:43] <kate__> botcity, I'll give it a shot. Have to leave to do it, so thanks for your help.
[21:43] <Metaxa> Yes
[21:43] <a2c4n9e1> but then i was wrong, its better upgrading with this realease
[21:44] <botcity> kate__, ok
[21:44] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, and in my opinion, before installing whatever, use the  new image or another live linux and go to those dirs and compress , with nautilus, for example
[21:44] <aj00200> I am having probelms with the windows not being resizable (particularly Firefox). Does someone know how to fix this?
[21:44] <JoeCoolDesk> ohsix, it was working yestreday and it's not today after the upgrade.  The windows partition works so it's not the HDD
[21:44] <Kyubey> Heya
[21:44] <Kyubey> So yeah
[21:44] <ohsix> JoeCoolDesk: i didn't say it was, but if you want to be beligerent i've got other things to do
[21:44] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, then copy to another media, of course
[21:44] <guntbert> z0mbyk1d: karmic -> maverick -> natty
[21:44] <Kyubey> I just noticed sound isnt working on my laptop under natty
[21:44] <guntbert> !upgrade | z0mbyk1d
[21:44] <Kyubey> But I checked, and it appears natty uses palseaudio now
[21:44] <Kyubey> I have a wierd sound card, I think only ALSA works on it
[21:45] <Kyubey> Does anyone know how to fix it?
[21:45] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, the conf and package are well backed up every week bfore, so i thought nothing to worry about starting a new installation from scratch.
[21:45] <ohsix> Kyubey: pulseaudio uses alsa to output sound, it's not an alternative
[21:45] <guntbert> sre-su: you question was not clear for me - what di you want to do?
[21:45] <ohsix> Kyubey: open the volume control and go to the hardware tab, do you see any devices?
[21:45] <mick_laptop> hi everyone, I installed ubuntu on an Acer laptop and everything was going just fine (for a few days) - now it is acting funny (started w/ X not really working like it should etc.). Now i get "No init found" and a busybox prompt
[21:45] <a2c4n9e1> now i need to install 10.10 first, make my custom mount point and update, clean, and upgrade to 11.04
[21:45] <Kyubey> I cant do that ohsix
[21:46] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, so burn the flash and you both (you+distro)  will be happy ever after
[21:46] <mick_laptop> when i try to reinstall (w/ a cd or usb) I can't get passed that prompt
[21:46] <exalt> can i move the dash bar ?
[21:46] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, but in your oppinion, will it worth it?
[21:46] <sudipta> how to test whether my nvidia card will support unity?
[21:46] <sre-su> guntbert: Got it myself.. I was searching a command like <qdbus org.kde.krunner /ScreenSaver org.freedesktop.ScreenSaver.Lock
[21:46] <sre-su> > to lock screen
[21:46] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, the change/upgrade?
[21:46] <z0mbyk1d> guntbert: i'm just using do-release-upgrade
[21:46] <Kyubey> when I go to sound preferences, it says "Waiting for the sound system to respond"
[21:46] <ohsix> Kyubey: that's the first step, find out how to do it so your sound can be fixed
[21:46] <apatheticsheep> "network connections" module in KDE, when i click add under wireless, and then scan, shows my network.  this would indicate to me that the drivers are loaded for the wireless card.
[21:46] <nanovany> how can I know if my video card works on ubuntu 11.04?
[21:46] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok, are you using kubuntu?
[21:46] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, i mean, upgrading to 11.04 at the momment, with the freshly launched?
[21:46] <guntbert> sre-su: understood, glad you found it
[21:46] <TiagoTiago> The disk i'll be installt 11.04 already got dualboot set to boot Linux and Windows, is my Windows partition under any risk if i install Ubuntu  again?
[21:46] <Kyubey> no
[21:47] <Kyubey> I'm using the standard unity ubuntu
[21:47] <guntbert> z0mbyk1d: but you *must* not jump over releases
[21:47] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok, open a terminal and run fuser -v /dev/snd/* paste teh output if there is any to paste.ubuntu.com
[21:47] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, of course it is. you get everything up-to-date. if you like a couple of ppl don't like unity use classic desktop option at login
[21:47] <apatheticsheep> but I see no way to connect to said wireless network.  I type in my WPA key and select auto connect but it doesn't connect
[21:47] <botcity> !hardware | nanovany,
[21:47] <ny51bern> Can someone help me install ubuntu 11?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[21:48] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, thanks alot for the opinions.
[21:48] <zvacet> TiagoTiago: no if you do it carefully
[21:48] <z0mbyk1d> wow ok so i need to go to 10.04 then to 10.10 then to 11.04
[21:48] <z0mbyk1d> whew!
[21:48] <TiagoTiago> perhaps it would better if there was some triage going here so the flow of text wasn't so fast, i'm having a hard time keeping up, specially if i try to do anything else :(
[21:48] <a2c4n9e1> ny51bern: how can you be helped?
[21:48] <z0mbyk1d> guntbert: you can't anyway, apparently
[21:48] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i got this one, and that'd be 100% useless in this case, have to start at the top, pulse is failing to start or blocked on opening the devices
[21:48] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, or use unity + some fancy menu utility, like "avant window navigator "
[21:48] <shane_> Hello ubuntu chat
[21:49] <engammalsko> I have no window menu after configuring compiz.
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: if you want, the output is dead handy though
[21:49] <ny51bern> a2c4n9e1: ive already gotten pretty far, but the installer has prompted me asking "What do you want to do about modified configuration file grub?"
[21:49] <JoeCoolDesk> ohsix, what aare you talking about?
[21:49] <engammalsko> I don't have the close, minimize, maximize etc.
[21:49] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, so i got 3 unmounted partition in 11.04, how to make it auto mounted?]
[21:49] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, or... add to startup applications ' gnome-menu ' and you'll have the bottom gnome panel.
[21:49] <exalt> HELP ubuntu 11.04 is turning my laptop fan into a furnace!
[21:49] <guntbert> z0mbyk1d: what you *can* or *can't* is not the question - what it does to your system makes the difference :)
[21:49] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip http://paste.ubuntu.com/600961/
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> a2c4n9e1: add it in /etc/fstab
[21:49] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, sorry, ' gnome-panel '
[21:49] <cardamoon> 11.04.  I laughed.
[21:49] <shane_> This is the 3rd time I've installed ubuntu, and maybe the 10th time i've tried installing the fglrx drivers from th ati website and I get the same error every time; X11: extension GLX not found;
[21:49] <z0mbyk1d> guntbert: yeah
[21:49] <Kyubey> wait, it cut off a line
[21:49] <cardamoon> Haha.
[21:50] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok, don't worry about pasting the rest, you have flash player interfering with pulse
[21:50] <aj00200> I am having probelms with some windows not being resizable (particularly Firefox and the terminal). Does someone know how to fix this?
[21:50] <a2c4n9e1> ny51bern: whats the options? i never see that..
[21:50] <z0mbyk1d> i'm backing up all the configs that are likely to be overwritten
[21:50] <engammalsko> Can anyone help me restore my window panel?
[21:50] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, you have the answer on those tutos i gave you
[21:50] <Kyubey> Flash player is interfering with pulse?
[21:50] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, pretty explanatory
[21:50] <Kyubey> How do I fix this?
[21:50] <asteig> engammalsko: Do you know why it disappeared?
[21:51] <ohsix> Kyubey: yeah, so close whatever is using it, pulse goes to sleep by itself after a while and something can open the device directly under it
[21:51] <engammalsko> No, but it have happend before, asteig
[21:51] <asteig> engammalsko: Upgrade, etc?
[21:51] <a2c4n9e1> ActionParsnip: how to get the uuid
[21:51] <samtate> My laptop sound works fine in Ubuntu including soundmenu and stuff, but when I plug in my external speakers, the sound cuts off from the laptop ones, but nothing comes out of the external ones. Any help?
[21:51] <Oday> is there an "easy" GUI CVS that you know of?
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> a2c4n9e1: run:  sudo blkid
[21:51] <HAKMASTER> hey!! quick question, i'am installting Ubuntu 11.0.4 and during the installation when i'm doing parition resize, i can't mount it to other than the default mount listed name!! how i can fix this? thanks in advance
[21:51] <ohsix> Kyubey: well, i'd stop using nspluginwrapper, but that doesn't really have anything to do with it; just kill flash and pulse will do everything itself
[21:51] <engammalsko> asteig: I upgraded to 11.04, but it has happened with 10.10 too.
[21:51] <mick_laptop> i took out the hdd - truying again
[21:51] <Oday> because "man cvs" is causing me nightmares
[21:51] <asteig> engammalsko: Gnome or Unity?
[21:51] <phibxr> Why did #ubuntu+1 become invite only?
[21:51] <engammalsko> Gnome
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> samtate: what make and model is the system?
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> phibxr: because natty is released
[21:52] <Oday> maybe you haven't identified your nickname, phibxr
[21:52] <ohsix> phibxr: it's not going to be "supported" for a while, it's oneiric
[21:52] <guntbert> phibxr: because natty is released
[21:52] <shane_> Im using Ubuntu 11; Trying to install FGLRX; I get the same problem everytime; X11: GLX extension not found
[21:52] <Oday> oh
[21:52] <asteig> engammalsko: Did you JUST upgrade? If you just upgraded to 11.04, you need to manually switch back to GNOME.
[21:52] <Kyubey> So I cant get sound while using flash? o.o
[21:52] <a2c4n9e1>  ny51bern: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195275 & http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1296225 credit to lcb
[21:52] <phibxr> acnot, ohsix, guntbert, ah, thanks. :)
[21:52] <mcphail> Hi all. My 64 bit natty CD can't install grub anywhere. Proceeding without installing grub leads to "irrecoverable error" about 5 minutes later. Installation medium is not corrupted. Any ideas?
[21:53] <engammalsko> asteig: I changed to Ubuntu-classic when loggin in, So I have the 10.10 menus etc.
[21:53] <ohsix> Kyubey: you can, but like i said; pulse goes to sleep when theres nothing to do, and that means a bad app can open and hog the device under it
[21:53] <lcb> Oday, i think it depends your usage of it. on "software center " type cvs
[21:53] <FLeiXiuS> All of my window decorations are gone in ubuntu 11.04 classic display.  This means no minimize / maximize, etc..,etc
[21:53] <ny51bern> a2c4n9e1: theres a bunch. "install the package maintainer's version" "keep the local version currently installed" "show the differences between the versions" "show a 3 way diff b/w available versions" "do a 3 way merge b/w avail versions (experimental)" "start a new shell to examine the situation"
[21:53] <Oday> i am doing that now already, lcb
[21:53] <ohsix> Kyubey: you should use the native 64bit plugin, it's less problematic
[21:53] <Oday> thanks
[21:53] <asteig> engammalsko: Okay, cool. Did you lose just one panel or all panels?
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: what is the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[21:53] <nanovany> thanks I will checkit!
[21:53] <a2c4n9e1> ActionParsnip: can you gimme example of fstab line for reiserfs filesystem?
[21:53] <cache_surplus> hello, im trying to ubuntu 10.10 32bit on a windows xp laptop. when i boot to cdrom, windows xp continues to rule the laptop...
[21:53] <lcb> Oday, :)
[21:53] <engammalsko> asteig: But that's not my problem. It's my window bar. I don't have the window panels.
[21:53] <aj00200> FLeiXiuS: do they need to be re-enabled with compilz?
[21:53] <Oday> lcb, there is CVS and Subversion, and Subversion is NOT a CVS?
[21:53] <engammalsko> asteig: I mean, close, minimize, maximize etc.
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> !fstab | a2c4n9e1
[21:53] <Oday> is CVS a brand? lcb
[21:54] <FLeiXiuS> aj00200, I've gone through and replaced the display manager with compiz/metacity...notta.
[21:54] <shane_> cache_sureplush: sounds like the bootloader didnt install probperly or your boot partition isnt set
[21:54] <engammalsko> asteig: I have the top and bottom panels.
[21:54] <samtate> ActionParsnip, its an Advent 5411 - a bit rarer, but still uses a common-ish sound card
[21:54] <ohsix> engammalsko: sounds like you need to enable the window decorator plugin in compiz
[21:54] <engammalsko> ohsix: how to?
[21:54] <shane_> Anybody have a link to installing FGLRX on fresh install NAtty
[21:54] <Kyubey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/600966/
[21:54] <a2c4n9e1> ActionParsnip: ok thanks
[21:54] <engammalsko> ohsix: Under which category?
[21:54] <ny51bern> a2c4n9e1: I have no idea what those links mean. I'm pretty dumb when it comes to these things..
[21:54] <ohsix> engammalsko: it's an option like any other in ccsm; can you actually move windows and switch their order at the moment? compiz could have crashed too
[21:55] <a2c4n9e1> i'll be away for awhile
[21:55] <lcb> Oday, no, but you have packages in there for almost everything. try it and the ones you don't like it remove it. don't forget ubuntu is not like windoe$, so no garbages afters
[21:55] <FLeiXiuS> aj00200, allow m e to rephrase, I have decorations but they dont do anything.
[21:55] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/600966/
[21:55] <phibxr> ohsix, sounds like he's running ubuntu-classic.
[21:55] <ActionParsnip> samtate: try adding: options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad     to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf      and reboot, may help
[21:55] <Oday> sure there are garbages, lcb..that's why autoremove and deborphan are there :P
[21:55] <ohsix> engammalsko: "effects"
[21:55] <samtate> ActionParsnip, OK thanks
[21:55] <ohsix> phibxr: you can't disable the decorator separately with metacity
[21:55] <engammalsko> ohsix: I can use the cube, move windows, use effects etc.
[21:55] <engammalsko> Ok
[21:55] <aj00200> FLeiXiuS: ouch. I'm sorry, but I don't know how to fix it. Maybe use this as an opportunity to learn to use keyboard shortcuts for everything
[21:56] <lcb> Oday, well, not so much as on the other one. you are right though. check their pages for features then
[21:56] <mcphail> Has anyone managed to install 64 bit natty from the live cd or am I the only one with problems?
[21:56] <FLeiXiuS> aj00200, thats how i've been surviving the past 2 days.. getting old ;-P
[21:56] <engammalsko> ohsix: I have a "fönsterram" option which means "window frame" could that be right?
[21:56] <JPeterson> I upgraded to 11.04 on what I thought was a plain vanilla 10.10, now I'm stuck on the grub command prompt
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: try:  sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer; sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flashsudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install flashplugin64-installer
[21:56] <ohsix> engammalsko: could be
[21:56] <syn3rgy> Natty looks really ... em different. I need to have my system monitor in the top panel. How do I do that?
[21:57] <maxflax> Im getting "ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve" when trying to upgrade to natty
[21:57] <TheBuntu> how do i set 11.04 beta 2 to upgrade to the stable
[21:57] <samtate> syn3rgy, Dont use unity is the answer
[21:57] <banderl0g> seconded above question
[21:57] <FunnyLookinHat> Hey what is the key combo to grep for a tab ?
[21:57] <FunnyLookinHat> i.e.
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> TheBuntu: just run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[21:57] <FunnyLookinHat> grep "something[TAB]bleh"
[21:57] <engammalsko> ohsix: Yep, it was right. It works now ^^
[21:57] <engammalsko> Thanks
[21:57] <FLeiXiuS> FunnyLookinHat, \t
[21:57] <lcb> TheBuntu, just upgrade normally
[21:57] <TiagoTiago> be back in a bit
[21:57] <syn3rgy> samtate Yeah I have a feeling you might be right.
[21:57] <samtate> syn3rgy, It doesnt support the notification area
[21:57] <ny51bern> lcb: you got any ideas for me? a2c4 credited you with 2 links but idk what they mean
[21:57] <FunnyLookinHat> FLeiXiuS, that's what I thought - hmmm...
[21:57] <FLeiXiuS> FunnyLookinHat, or use cut/awk.
[21:57] <trae> odd...  so on Unity I have to have an icon ON the desktop as well as ON the launcher?  that's ridiculous.
[21:58] <ohsix> syn3rgy: in unity the top bar is not really a panel, it just looks like it; if you want the panel pick the classic session on the login screen, after you click on your username
[21:58] <engammalsko> Can I change the scroll to classic scroll?
[21:58] <FLeiXiuS> functor, You cant really grep for a 'tab' but you can grep for pattern matches.  Or use awk/cut to separate the data.
[21:58] <lcb> ny51bern, check the scenarios there, you might get the one you need
[21:58] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip Error: need a repository as argument
[21:58] <maxflax> Im getting "ERROR Dist-upgrade failed: 'E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve" when trying to upgrade to natty
[21:58] <zvacet> TheBuntu: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:58] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, Why do you say that?  You only need icons on the launcher if that's all you want,
[21:58] <JPeterson> To be clearer I get the "Ubuntu 11.04 upgrade stuck on grub 1.97 beta 4 CLI" problem!
[21:59] <ny51bern> lcb: I'm not sure what GRUB i have
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sevenmachines/flash
[21:59] <syn3rgy> ohsix yeah I think Ill do that. Is there anything that Unity has for an advanced user of *nix systems that I should know about?
[21:59] <engammalsko> Can I change the scroll to classic scroll?
[21:59] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: how can I add a launcher to the panel in unity WITHOUT adding it to the desktop first.  And, giving it a custom icon on the panel.
[21:59] <functor> tab fail
[21:59] <lcb> ny51bern, btw, a2c4n9e1 receives a commission on every user i try to help, that's why
[21:59] <juzzy_> HELP! all my file folder try to open with gedit text editor!
[21:59] <SudoGhost-Away> Is there a way to make it so that the unity sidebar thing is always shown?
[21:59] <TheBuntu> already did dist-upgrade....so it must be there
[21:59] <JPeterson> why wont it boot?
[21:59] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip, done
[21:59] <ny51bern> lcb: i think I have grub 2, they only lst 1.99
[21:59] <juzzy_> HELP! all my file folder try to open with gedit text editor!
[21:59] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: cause when I remove it from the desktop, it goes away from the panel.
[21:59] <ohsix> syn3rgy: not really; it's just different, i wouldn't try to look for things i'd just try and use it as it was intended, as close as you can like a new user
[21:59] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, Click the ubuntu icon in the top left, search for your app, and then click & drag it to the panel...
[21:59] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, Install ccsm and tell me when your done
[22:00] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, To customize it further, right click ti.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: ok then install flashplugin64-installer
[22:00] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, paste apt:ccsm into your browser and press enter
[22:00] <lcb> ny51bern, check the commands for grub :P that's how i learn
[22:00] <engammalsko> Can I change my scrolls to the classis scroll?
[22:00] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: odd... I only get "keep in Launcher" when I right click
[22:00] <lcb> ny51bern, on those pages there is one with the list of commands
[22:00] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, Oh hmmm
[22:00] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, Not found
[22:00] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, The other option is to create a folder of custom launchers in your home folder.
[22:01] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, And then link those to your unity panel
[22:01] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: lol
[22:01] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, suffice it to say: http://i.imgur.com/zdIIa.png
[22:01] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: yeah it's a fix... but.... sheesh... I hope Miguel didn't make these Gnome3 decisions  or I'll have to beat him and Nat.
[22:01] <lcb> FunnyLookinHat, i like your hat. reminds me one i saw today on the wedding in london
[22:01] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip, installed
[22:01] <Kyubey> now what?
[22:01] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, installing "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings (ccsm)"
[22:01] <FunnyLookinHat> lcb, Hah!
[22:01] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: ok try flash
[22:02] <ny51bern> lcb: i really am not sure what to do..
[22:02] <Kyubey> Why?
[22:02] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, installed
[22:02] <Kyubey> I need sound :(
[22:02] <TiagoTiago> back
[22:02] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, sudo apt-get install compiz compizconfig-settings-manager
[22:02] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, I have a feeling the customization of Unity will be a big player in 11.10 - it's silly that you have to install ccsm just to adjust Unity's panel
[22:02] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, Oh OK
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> FunnyLookinHat: what'swrong with it?
[22:02] <syn3rgy> ohsix think Ill install Gnome 3 and just give that a spin. I spend 95 % of my time in emacs and the other 5 in a term. This is just to much rainbows and ponies for me.
[22:02] <FunnyLookinHat> ActionParsnip, What's wrong with what?
[22:02] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: seriously though, I appreciate the need for something new and flashy, but I'm not so sure why we had to push this alpha software out with 11.04
[22:02] <Kyubey> Actionparsnip, flash is playing fine
[22:02] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, Now open it by pressing Alt + F2 and typing ccsm
[22:02] <trae> anyway :(
[22:02] <Kyubey> Actionparsnip, now, what about my sound?
[22:03] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, done
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: sweet, thought you were only missing sound in flash
[22:03] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, If you want to run Gnome - you can do so... simply select "Gnome Desktop" on the login screen...
[22:03] <d3vlin> update-initramfs broken in natty? I don't get any feedback/update, immediately returns to prompt
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> FunnyLookinHat: the image
[22:03] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, No need to force yourself to use it unless you like it.
[22:03] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, Go to the unity section
[22:03] <FunnyLookinHat> ActionParsnip, Lots of wasted space...  :)
[22:03] <TiagoTiago> hm, gotta go, 8mll see if i can come back later let you guys know how things went
[22:03] <TiagoTiago> cya
[22:03] <banderl0g> How can I tell if my natty Beta 2 has been fully upgraded to the final release?
[22:03] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: I may try though...   I do like you, in spite of your funny hat.
[22:03] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, And I dont have natty with me, but it has a purple circle logo; easy to see
[22:03] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:03] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, Hah!  Sounds good
[22:03] <OY1R> im having problems booting when i try i get this error > http://paste.ubuntu.com/600969/ im running 10.10
[22:03] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, done
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> banderl0g: run updates, no updates mean it is stable
[22:04] <lcb> ny51bern, look, handling grub is not difficult. difficult and very risky is trying to help someone remotely, because you can easily screw everything. go slowly and with patience and you'll get it.
[22:04] <banderl0g> ok, then it seems it is, thanks ActionParsnip
[22:04] <trae> FunnyLookinHat: thanks for the hack work-around, I thought of that but felt very dirty to even try it.  lol
[22:04] <Kyubey> Actionparsnip, no, I said that I cant adjust my volume/unmute and when I try to go into sound preferences it tells me it's waiting for the sound system to respond
[22:04] <SudoGhost-Away> samtate, got it, thank you ver much
[22:04] <phibxr> FunnyLookinHat, I agree that it's a bit silly that you need external packages to configure the behavior of the default GUI. I still like Unity though. :P
[22:04] <samtate> SudoGhost-Away, No problem. Its annoying that it isnt like that by default, but oh well
[22:04] <lcb> ny51bern, unless someone else want to give a try, with this "confusion" in the #chan
[22:04] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: things are opening the sound device under pulseaudio
[22:04] <Oday> anyone use TKCVS?
[22:05] <Oday> i have no idea what to enter in "Module" when specifying the CVSROOT
[22:05] <lcb> ticks? my cat
[22:05] <lcb> Oday, :)
[22:05] <trae> I've been using Linux for a long time, what 95?  And well... I've never seen as silly of a move as this in a major distro for the default UI.
[22:05] <lcb> Oday, that's a good one
[22:05] <UbuntuLove> Unity Does not support propietary nvidia driver....any help?
[22:05] <FunnyLookinHat> phibxr, I like Unity too - I'm mostly hoping that they nail it the second time around in 11.10 with configuration options.  :)
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> FunnyLookinHat: then replace gnome-panel in your gconf-editor to be something else and it will go, you need the panel to hold thefile, edit menus of each app unless you make the system put them in the traditional place
[22:05] <trae> but anyhoo... I'll drink a cup of STFU.  :)
[22:05] <Oday> TKCVS is good, lcb? or my question? :P
[22:06] <ohsix> trae: if you don't need help, #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:06] <lcb> Oday, the package
[22:06] <engammalsko> PLEASE HELP!!!!!
[22:06] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:06] <Oday> ok lcb
[22:06] <engammalsko> I can't move my windows anymore.
[22:06] <ohsix> trae: there was a long long long review period before the release
[22:06] <engammalsko> I used this command: sudo su
[22:06] <engammalsko>  echo “export LIBOVERLAY_SCROLLBAR=0″ > /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80overlayscrollbars
[22:06] <Oday> great news, engammalsko
[22:06] <Kyubey> ActionParsnip, you have any ideas?
[22:06] <lcb> engammalsko, don't yell.. there is ppl sleeping here
[22:06] <botcity> UbuntuLove, of course it does
[22:06] <FunnyLookinHat> trae, ohsix yeah and the review process even involved a vote to back off Unity till 11.10
[22:06] <ohsix> engammalsko: moving windows is another compiz plugin
[22:06] <d3vlin> update-initramfs broken in natty? I don't get any feedback/update, immediately returns to prompt
[22:07] <trae> will head over there to save this channel some traffic
[22:07] <zombor> has anyone got sound working with an intel H61 i3 processor on board audio? when i do alsamixer it says "cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument"
[22:07] <ohsix> FunnyLookinHat: you'll find that any time that question is asked it will always put something like unity off, into perpetuity
[22:07] <tase> How do I verify the integrity of a 10.10 Live CD ?
[22:07] <lcb> trae, don't worry. in time the transit police would be here
[22:07] <d3vlin> i.e. # update-initramfs -v or -h doesn't show anything
[22:08] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:08] <engammalsko> ohsix: Thanks.
[22:08]  * mcphail is giving up on the 64 bit live cd and trying the alternate cd.
[22:08] <ohsix> tase: with md5sum, compare it to the version on the website; or use the "check disk for errors" entry on the initial boot menu
[22:08] <LMJ> Hi
[22:08] <Jasonn> Anyone know how to start atheme services?
[22:08] <engammalsko> But, how do I change scrollbars?
[22:08] <engammalsko> To classic scrollbars.
[22:08] <trae> grrr you guys aren't even over there for me to talk to you ;)
[22:08] <fdsf> how do i create a password file?
[22:09] <tase> ohsix, there is no boot menu on this CD
[22:09] <aperson> I'm trying to turn a list that separated by newlines into a a comma delimited list, sed 'N;s/\n/, /g' doesn't seem to be working right
[22:09] <JPeterson> if I do ls /grub there is no grub file!
[22:09] <Soothsayer> I was running the internet upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04... during the installing process, my screen went blank.. and it kinda froze.. so I switched off my laptop directly.
[22:09] <lcb> maxflax, i took a quick look. do sudo apt-get check && sudo apt-get -f install
[22:09] <Soothsayer> Now when I boot, "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present". I'm getting this at Boot.
[22:09] <Dominater> how do i resize the bar on the left hand size where the icons are?
[22:09] <engammalsko> Or more importent. Why can't I use ctrl+alt+t to open the shell? I have looked up my hotkeys and it's right but it doesn't work.
[22:09] <ohsix> tase: the thing that asks for your language? you might need to press a key to display it
[22:09] <alaruz> I have an issue with the nm-applet. I have a laptop with 2 users. However only the first user logging in gets to use the nm-applet and choose wireless networks and more. I need to kill the nm-applet with sudo to be able to use it with user nr 2. Is this a known bug or should I report it, if so how?
[22:09] <maxflax> lcb - ok
[22:09] <a2c4n9e1> lcb, you know, i finally come around with my partitioning problem. thanks to ActionParsnip and you... ^_^
[22:09] <kapare_> QUESTION Ubuntu 11.04:  Radeon X1900 XT and I have this problem: glxinfo ==  Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[22:10] <figure002> hello. i've just burned the new ubuntu to a cd and i'm ready to install it *next to* ubuntu 10.10. but i don't want it to overwrite my grub from 10.10. is there a way to tell it to use the grub settings from 10.10?
[22:10] <Dominater> how do i resize the bar on the left hand size where the icons are?
[22:10] <lcb> maxflax, you didn't upgrade your system before 11.04 :(
[22:10] <ohsix> alaruz: it should work with both, but the changes would be mutually exclusive, it would get the authentication/wifi information only from one however
[22:10] <lcb> a2c4n9e1, :)
[22:10] <Dominater> how do i resize the bar on the left hand size where the icons are?
[22:10]  * Kyubey sighs
[22:10] <Kyubey> let's start again, I guess
[22:10] <Neosano> Hello guys, I'm installing ubuntu on usb flash drive, is it a good idea to create a swap partition or not?
[22:10] <lcb> kycka, from zero
[22:10] <z0mbyk1d> 24 minutes left of package downloads to go from 9.10 to 10.04
[22:10] <a2c4n9e1> and now i have a problem installing opensshserver
[22:10] <maxflax> lcb - what do you mean?
[22:10] <z0mbyk1d> jesus i didnt realize this machine was so far behind
[22:11] <lcb> maxflax, did you?
[22:11] <ohsix> Dominater: install ccsm and edit the settings for the Unity plugin in it
[22:11] <Kyubey> Everyone, I'm having trouble getting sound to work in natty. I cant adjust the volume or unmute it, and if I click sound preferences, it tells me "Waiting for sound system to respond"
[22:11] <samtate> ActionParsnip: What did you tell me to do before?
[22:11] <ohsix> Kyubey: i told you what the problem is
[22:11] <Dominater> ohsix, thank you
[22:11] <a2c4n9e1> it keeps telling me the openssh-client version is higher than the openssh-server needed
[22:11] <maxflax> lcb - my 10.10 is a initial install - no upgrade
[22:11] <ohsix> Kyubey: what part of the answer did you not like?
[22:11] <tase> ohsix: .... my language ? yea ok there is "Try Ubuntu" and "install ubuntu", its a GUI, which button/key ?
[22:11] <lcb> maxflax, also type sudo dpkg -a
[22:11] <samtate> ActionParsnip: To do with my sound card, and putting something into some file. Because I lost it :P
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[22:12] <macs> .
[22:12] <sluther> Oh not again.
[22:12] <DrShoggoth> uhm
[22:12] <z0mbyk1d> hahahaha
[22:12] <PolarPanda> Cooooome on!
[22:12] <z0mbyk1d> freenode staff!
[22:12] <Arachon> Wait..
[22:12] <ohsix> tase: there should be a message just after the cd boots that offers to select a language, try, install, or test the disk
[22:12] <Soothsayer> wtf was that?
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> samtate: (21:55:26) ActionParsnip: samtate: try adding: options snd-hda-intel model=thinkpad     to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf      and reboot, may help
[22:12] <crescendo> n00b.
[22:12] <Arachon> "And Freenode staff"?
[22:12] <Neosano> lol
[22:12] <Soothsayer> lol
[22:12]  * Arachon shrugs
[22:12] <samtate> ActionParsnip: Cheers again :P
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> samtate: np
[22:12] <zombor> has anyone got sound working with an intel H61 i3 processor on board audio (Realtek ALC887)? when i do alsamixer it says "cannot load mixer controls: Invalid argument"
[22:12] <Neosano> Hello guys, I'm installing ubuntu on usb flash drive, is it a good idea to create a swap partition or not?
[22:12] <MACscr> there is zero logic to that statement. I really hate spammers
[22:12] <lcb> maxflax, before upgrading to 11.04 we need to update/grade our previous installation
[22:13] <Kyubey> ohsix - the part where you were fixing flash and not my sound at all
[22:13] <z0mbyk1d> 'immediate forgiveness'   jesus, forgive me immediately
[22:13] <z0mbyk1d> kthxbai
[22:13] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: that's not the best advice to give without also telling them to report a bug if it does work, if they roll with it and don't report a bug it might never be fixed
[22:13] <lcb> maxflax, upgrading not meaning dist-upgrade
[22:13]  * mongy logs ActionParsnip and calls it ubuntu-bible.doc
[22:13] <ohsix> Kyubey: flash is the problem, it's opened the sound device under pulse
[22:13] <maxflax> lcb - the sudo dpkg -a doesn't work - says it needs a action to do
[22:13] <ohsix> Kyubey: kill flash and pulse will start, but you'll probably run into the problem again in the future
[22:13] <FORTHELULZ> who said my name
[22:13] <lcb> maxflax, it works, try to reboot
[22:13] <FunnyLookinHat> zombor, GO AWAY
[22:13] <Kyubey> ohsix - I dont have flash running right now
[22:13] <lcb> maxflax, wait...
[22:14] <ohsix> Kyubey: i've used the native plugin and have not had that problem in a very very long time, and nspluginwrapper is garbage
[22:14] <zombor> FunnyLookinHat: FIX MY PROBLEM
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> mongy: hehe
[22:14] <Kyubey> It's still not letting me adjust the sound
[22:14] <crazyrohila> Neosano: why not you can make swap it's not bad idea :-)
[22:14] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok, then repaste the output of fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[22:14] <arand> forthelulz: Spammer
[22:14] <FunnyLookinHat> zombor, SUDO RM -RF /
[22:14] <_Mr_Proper_> Something is borked with my video card-- Normal display is fine, but if I open up a movie file, everything has a blue tint. The additional drivers window says the nvidia driver is 'activated but not currently in use'
[22:14] <FunnyLookinHat> NOBODY TYPE THAT
[22:14] <_Mr_Proper_> Can anyone help?
[22:14] <FORTHELULZ> thx
[22:14] <alaruz> ohsix: I can confirm that it is also how it seems to work. (networks added one one user is also stored on the other) how ever since this is a laptop it tends to be moved around. :) e.g. if user 1 logs in and (has control of the applet?) and later switches to user 2, how can that user add a new wifi network without first killing the applet?
[22:14] <FunnyLookinHat> _Mr_Proper_, Try a reboot after activating the driver?
[22:14] <Neosano> crazyrohila, well, some people say that it will kill my thumb drive faster
[22:14] <FunnyLookinHat> _Mr_Proper_, Also - do you have an Optimus card or something similar?
[22:14] <ActionParsnip> _Mr_Proper_: http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/fix-blue-tinted-video-in-ubuntu
[22:14] <crazyrohila> nope
[22:15] <Kyubey> ohsix http://paste.ubuntu.com/600976/
[22:15] <_Mr_Proper_> FunnyLookinHat, Have done, and I've tried both current- and 173
[22:15] <lcb> maxflax, when the system is booting press SHIFT after the bios messages. you'll get the choice of kernels. select recovery. then you'll get a menu. select first CLEAN, then DPKG, then GRUB lastly failsafeX
[22:15] <crazyrohila> Neosano: nope
[22:15] <ohsix> alaruz: they can and should be able to add it for themselves, since the nm-applet they run provides all the information for networkmanager to do the work
[22:15] <quick_nick> what was that all about?
[22:15] <_Mr_Proper_> Ta, I'll check the link out, its an nVidia 8800 GT
[22:15] <mello> ohsix: I tried importing my library in rhythmbox clementine and exaile
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> _Mr_Proper_: you ot seen that link?
[22:15] <maxflax> lcb - ok
[22:15] <ActionParsnip> *not
[22:15] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok you have yet another problem with a browser plugin opening the device under pulseaudio
[22:15] <Neosano> crazyrohila, uhhm, ok, thanks
[22:15] <quick_nick> dude has nothing better to do than to?
[22:15] <lcb> maxflax, no precipitations, do it calmly
[22:15] <ohsix> Kyubey: keep killing it until it says pulseaudio in the output of fuser -v /dev/snd/*
[22:16] <mello> ohsix: rhythmbox=3772, clementine=2650,exaile=around 2300
[22:16] <_Mr_Proper_> ActionParsnip, I have now, I'll have a try with -recommended
[22:16] <_Mr_Proper_> thx
[22:16] <Ubuntu> unity does not support propietary nvidia card in my system...any help...pls
[22:16] <JPeterson> if I do "boot" then "no kernel is loaded"
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> _Mr_Proper_: not websearched before asking? I found that in a matter of seconds..
[22:16] <JPeterson> if I do linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro
[22:16] <lcb> Ubuntu, disable it and use generic while there is no update on those
[22:16] <_Mr_Proper_> I wasn't searching for blue hue, I was searching for something else
[22:16] <bsmith093> can i control the speed of ripping an audio cd to avoid skipping and jumping files
[22:16] <ohsix> mello: are they all mp3 or are there wma, ogg, flac and stuff all in there
[22:16] <samtate> ActionParsnip: I'm afraid that didnt work
[22:16] <alaruz> ohsix: Thats the thing, they are able to do that seperately. But the applet only seems to be "available" for one user at the time. e.g. on the second user the area where the applet is supposed to be is blank on the panel.
[22:16] <Kyubey> ohsix, now when I type that command it doesnt display anything
[22:17] <curiousx> Hi all =)
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> samtate: try model=laptop  instead
[22:17] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok then try opening th emixer
[22:17] <cardamoon> Speaking of, do you think the Narwhal upgrade dohick will seizure if I cancel it in the middle of its fetch?  I thought I'd be gone longer than I was, so I'd rather wait for the download later.
[22:17] <JPeterson> then "cannot open root device sda1"
[22:17] <mello> ohsix: i already thought of that: there are some flac and ogg in there, but not up to 1K
[22:17] <raylee_> is linux very secure os
[22:17] <Kyubey> ohsix - how do I do that? Do you mean the sound preferences? (I cant open that)
[22:17] <shesek_> Hey. Any idea what I should add to my /etc/apt/sources.list for the armel port sources (on Maverick) ?
[22:17] <curiousx> can helpme, how can i restore the menu bar in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[22:17] <shesek_> I can't seem to fidn that anywhere
[22:17] <ohsix> raylee_: linux is an important but small part of what people would call an "OS"
[22:17] <shesek_> s/fidn/find
[22:18] <rgoytacaz> thats why i dont like religion, there are too many fanatics, I'm all inclined to believe in good will and thats it.
[22:18] <lcb> raylee_, is it raylee_ , i mean, really is
[22:18] <qin> raylee_: Yes, less than BSD
am in now ubuntu classic (no effect)...is this a bug?
[22:18] <z0mbyk1d> anyone have any clue why logrotate will not actually rotate one log i have? when i manually run it (forced) it says it's rotating anc compressing it but it doesn't actually do anything...
[22:18] <FoolsRun> Hey, Unity-2d doesn't seem to autohide. Am I missing something?
[22:18] <ohsix> alaruz: that's probably right, it's one device; it cant' really be shared, but i dno't know how it decides which gets the wheel
[22:18] <lcb> ubottu, because the system didn't recognize 3d
[22:18] <curiousx> mi menu bar desapear how can i restore ? please helpme =)
[22:18] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok open a terminal and run pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio
[22:18] <ForeverBuzzed> How can I enable sun-jre? The help docs pulls up a link that opens the software center that says sun-java6-jre does not exist
[22:19] <curiousx> i am in ubuntu 11.04 with unity
[22:19] <tase> is it possible to run gnome from live cd ?
[22:19] <tase> on 11.04
[22:19] <_Mr_Proper_> Did the trick, thanks, no more blue hue :)
[22:19] <curiousx> yes
[22:19] <curiousx> excuse me i not american =(
[22:19] <phibxr> when you get a blue arrow in the upper left corner, how can you identify the window demanding attention?
[22:19] <cardamoon> It's not 11.04.  It's 10.10.  11.04 is a know bug. FYI.
[22:20] <Soothsayer> is ext4 file system faster than ext3?
[22:20] <MnCC> after two hours of surgery i finally have a working version of 11.04 ..
[22:20] <Kyubey> ohsix, http://paste.ubuntu.com/600978/
[22:20] <ActionParsnip> _Mr_Proper_: simple stuff.all I searched for was: ubuntu blue tint in video
[22:20] <lcb> Ubuntu, after removing the proprietary driver on "Additional Drivers" do failsafeX and reconfigure graphics
[22:20] <samtate> ActionParsnip: No, sorry
yeah ...but the driver is installed(worked with 10.10)....all i get is a screen with launcher but the cursor
[22:20] <alaruz> ohsix: Okey perhaps I have misunderstood how the applet really works. I migrated from vista to 10.10 this fall on my laptop, but even after natty-upgrade yesterday this issue is still present for me. I had the same user setup in windows without does issues.
[22:21] <html_inprogress> hello ? english?
[22:21] <Diosjoe> Hello, after updating to 11.04 i could use unity, but after first reboot after the update, it jumps straight to the old design, if i log the user out, i get a lot of graphic disortion, mouse pointer missing etc, though if i relog in i have a slight chance of getting unity back, until i reboot... help please << anymore information needed?
[22:21] <econdudeawesome> Howdy all. Is there anyway to make nano word wrap without linebreaks?
[22:21] <_Mr_Proper_> Is there an easy way to see if hardware acceleration is actually working? My original issue was that the additional drivers window says the nvidia driver is activated but not in use...  Things seem a little sluggish :)
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> samtate: ok try: options snd-hda-intel position_fix=1       instead
with nvidia driver installed
[22:21] <lcb> Ubuntu, i know but there are some issues, among xorg not working with some graphics
[22:21] <curiousx> can someone help me ?
[22:22] <ny51bern> lcb:  theres a help button on the dialog when it asks me to choose that says " a new version of config file /etc/default/grub is avail, but the version installed has been locally modified
[22:22] <Soothsayer> is ext4 file system faster than ext3?
[22:22] <_Mr_Proper_> glxinfo | grep rendering == direct rendering: Yes, so I guess to some extent its working
[22:22] <ny51bern> lcb: that help?
[22:22] <lcb> curiousx, i'm one among more curiousx on what to help
[22:22] <samtate> ActionParsnip: I'm just adding this to the bottom of the file right?
[22:22] <BlouBlou> Soothsayer: it is
[22:22] <ohsix> alaruz: i'd presume that the current foreground user would get access, it might be a bug if that isn't the case
[22:22] <html_inprogress> whats the 10.04 ubuntu channel?
[22:22] <BlouBlou> html_inprogress: You're on it
[22:22] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it's faster in some circumstances, theres no comppsite number and it's also slower in some circumstances
[22:22] <Diosjoe> Can anyone help me with me gfx issues
[22:22] <BlouBlou> Diosjoe: Sure, ask it
[22:22] <lcb> ny51bern, yes, sure
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> samtate: yes, remove the one you tried before each time
will this be fixed soon...'cas i heard this issue in the internet
[22:23] <Soothsayer> I screwed up my laptop while upgrading.. now it can't find the mount for /
[22:23] <Soothsayer> reformatting the whole thing
[22:23] <ohsix> Kyubey: well there's your problem, pulse is refusing to start because you don't own your home directory, or it's permissions are too lax
[22:23] <Soothsayer> Do I have to define swap space during installation ?
[22:23] <Kyubey> ...what
[22:23] <Kyubey> How do I not own my home directory?
[22:23] <lcb> Ubuntu, hopefully yes, because i'm a junk computer colector
[22:23] <karth> anyone know how to modify unity so it doesn't do font scaling?
[22:23] <alex_> j #ubuntu
[22:23] <ohsix> Kyubey: are you running it as root?
[22:23] <ny51bern> lcb: any ideas?
[22:23] <alex_> woops
[22:23] <lcb> ny51bern, yes, update
[22:23] <Diosjoe> Bloublou,ive been running ubuntu fine, until i updated to 11.04. After upate it booted nicely with the new design. But after first reboot, it loads into old design, though works without glitches, unless i log out, then the gfx screws up
[22:23] <Kyubey> oh, woops
[22:24] <Kyubey> Okay
[22:24] <ohsix> it's a user level service
[22:24] <Kyubey> I typed sudo as an automatic thing
[22:24] <ActionParsnip> Kyubey: if you use sudo as little as possible, you won't break file ownerships
[22:24] <Rockj> Q: This new unity stuff, the tool bar at the top is rather annoying , I want the tool bar to be attached to my windows again so I can still continune to use "focus with mouse move" .. how do I fix this in unity?
[22:24] <ohsix> it'll be a fun day when that does something really bad
[22:24] <lcb> ny51bern, backup your /home dir to play on the safe side
[22:24] <Kyubey> ohsix, I ran the same command as normal, it said it "Failed to kil daemon: No such file or directory"
[22:24] <Diosjoe> if i login again, through the gfx mess, i might be lucky to have the new design back up, with no glitches, but still if i reboot it goes back
[22:24] <Neosano> Diosjoe, in my life I did 3 upgrades, none of these decisions were good.
[22:24] <ny51bern> lcb: theres no option to update..?
[22:24] <ohsix> Kyubey: then it started normally?
[22:25] <haroon> hello
[22:25] <Diosjoe> Neosano, so your saying format, install straight to 11.04 instead of updating
[22:25] <haroon> I need help
[22:25] <ohsix> Rockj: you probably wan't the classic session then, pick it on the login screen after clicking on your name
[22:25] <Kyubey> ohsix, huh?
[22:25] <Ubuntu> lcb:why is it not working after all...canonical says it is for netbooks...with less requirement....and yet it seems not to work(my one frnd had the same problem)
[22:25] <haroon> I just installed 11.04
[22:25] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Still no :/
[22:25] <html_inprogress> well thats a whole lots of confusion,, i tried like 5 min ago and  there was like 88 ppl on that irc, and no one around did they  move it?    (#ubuntu)
[22:25] <Kyubey> ohsix, it said it failed to kill the daemon because there's no such file or directory
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> haroon: please use one line
[22:25] <alishah> hi, what is the most lite weight browser available in ubunutu?
[22:25] <ohsix> Kyubey: pulseaudio -k && pulseaudio tries to kill it, then run it again
[22:25] <Neosano> Diosjoe, well, you can upgrade, but be prepared for some things to get fucked up
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: do you reboot in between?
[22:25] <Kyubey> ohsix, yeah, but it's saying there's no such file or directory
[22:25] <Diosjoe> Neosano, well i guess thats what happend
[22:25] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Yeah of course
[22:26] <Kyubey> ohsix, when it tries to kill it
[22:26] <ohsix> Kyubey: that is fine, forget it, just run pulseaudio -vvv and see what it isays
[22:26] <Rockj> ohsix: hm, ok. ill try that. so ubuntu still got gnome?
[22:26] <kapare_> Hello, does anyone have ATI card with ubuntu 11.04 and OpenGL working??
[22:26] <Diosjoe> Well, ill format and reinstall it soon
[22:26] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Unity is just really fast at starting
[22:26] <Diosjoe> though i must give PROPS to all devs
[22:26] <Diosjoe> on ALL improvements
[22:26] <BlouBlou> samtate_: It depends of your hardware
[22:26] <Diosjoe> i already love 11.04
[22:26] <ohsix> Rockj: yea, ubuntu still is 99.99% gnome, unity is a plugin for compiz which is an alternative window manager
[22:26] <Soothsayer> Do I have to define swap space during installation ? Does sawp require a separate partition?
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: hehe, all I can recommend is you find the option you need for your make and model system
[22:26] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it doesn't require a separate partition, but you should use one if you can
[22:26] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: How can I find my sound card. Is there a command?
[22:26] <haroon> I just installed 11.04 at my labtop lenovo B560 .Wireless was working in 10.04 using broadcom now wireless isn't working please help
[22:26] <Ubuntu123> lcb::::
[22:26] <ohsix> Soothsayer: so you can hibernate to it
[22:27] <html_inprogress> alishah,  in what way ? lite ram its firefox
[22:27] <Soothsayer> ohsix: ye, I want to hibernate it
[22:27] <Soothsayer> ohsix: I have 3 gb of ram on this laptop.. so how much swap space?
[22:27] <scorch_> Is there any way to continue an aborted 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade?
[22:27] <Soothsayer> 4 GB ?
[22:27] <Kyubey> lots of text
[22:27] <ohsix> haroon: install the firmware with b43-fwcutter or use bcmwl-kernel-source
[22:27] <Rockj> ohsix: but ubuntu dev's really should look at moving the "toolbar" top back to the windows agains, other then that unity looks sweet
[22:27] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: most are just intel compatible things, there is an alsa-info script on the sound troubleshooting documentation, it will tell you a lot
[22:27] <Kyubey> and it doesnt appear to be done
[22:27] <Soothsayer> or shall I make it 4.5 GB in case I plan to upgrade to 4GB?
[22:28] <Neosano> Soothsayer, you can change the size later
[22:28] <ohsix> Soothsayer: sure, i did 6 because i have a lot of stuff that lives on swap most of the time
[22:28] <resixian> is there not yet an 11.04 netbook edition?
[22:28] <blurgh> Is there any way to get global menus fixed in applications that not yet have it implemented?
[22:28] <arand> resixian: It was merged with desktop
[22:28] <Neosano> Soothsayer, but yeah, swap must be a little bit bigger than your memory
[22:28] <resixian> arand: ah, there is still a link on the alternative dl page
[22:28] <tauntaun> Is there anyway to encode a DVD onto my ipod using Rhythmbox?  If not, can another application do it?
[22:28] <Soothsayer> Neosano, ohsix ok. And what file system should it use? ext4?
[22:28] <resixian> arand: thx
[22:28] <alishah> html_inprogress: I tried firefox, its not lite enough.. I just want one with cookies js n flash support no fancy features?
[22:28] <Ubuntu123> lcb::
[22:28] <Kyubey> ohsix, it stopped, it's not done yet, but new text isnt printing anymore
[22:29] <Kyubey> ohsix (but I dont have a new prompt
[22:29] <Neosano> Soothsayer, for swap?? there's no filesystem for swap
[22:29] <ohsix> Rockj: well, there was a design and they fleshed it out, and a review period that was long and before the rerlease so theres not much to say about it now :\ they might bin it if it's no good ;]
[22:29] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok pulse is running now
[22:29] <arand> resixian: I think the fault link has been noted already..
[22:29] <ohsix> Kyubey: try and open the mixer
[22:29] <Kyubey> oh!
[22:29] <Neosano> Soothsayer, for you system you'll be good with ext4
[22:29] <Kyubey> it worked!
[22:29] <Soothsayer> Neosano: I'm creating a partition here using gparrted for it.
[22:29] <pattysmatty> how do i enable vlc player or divx player for firefox?
[22:29] <Soothsayer> ok
[22:29] <ohsix> Kyubey: ok now close the mixer, hit ^C in the terminal, then open the mixer again
[22:29] <truepurple> How do I install flash for 64bit ubuntu?
[22:29] <samtate> hi
[22:29] <Neosano> Soothsayer, just choose SWAP, it doesn't ask for filesystem
[22:30] <haroon> I installed it from synaptic but no change
[22:30] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out
[22:30] <html_inprogress> alishah,  restate your question, i dont understand
[22:30] <Kyubey> ohsix - now it says "waiting fo the sound system to respond"
[22:30] <scorch_> Is there any way to continue an aborted 10.10 to 11.04 upgrade?  It froze on me and I had to reboot.  now it says on bootup drive "/" not ready and my system will not star
[22:30] <pattysmatty> how do i enable divx player for firefox?
[22:30] <ohsix> Kyubey: fuser -v /dev/snd/* again
[22:30] <alishah> I want a browser that takes lesser ram and processing thn firefox n chrome.
[22:31] <Diosjoe> scorch_ i think no
[22:31] <alishah> html_inprogress: want a browser that takes lesser ram and processing thn firefox n chrome.
[22:31] <Kyubey> ohsix, doesnt print anything
[22:31] <Neosano> samtate, it's your laptop feature, you can't change this behavior
[22:31] <samtate> alishah: Midori by elementary team
[22:31] <Soothsayer> Neosano: that's in gparted?
[22:31] <samtate> Neosano: Was that a joke? It worked in Windows
[22:31] <Soothsayer> or during installation ?
[22:31] <alishah> samtate: thanx buddy will check it out.
[22:31] <ohsix> alishah: it all comes down to what you browse pretty much regardless of the browser; the internet is getting more complicated
[22:31] <Rockj> ohsix: hm, so what you are saying is that they had a design issue about it, and they dropped it and implemented it just as faulty as it is done in OS X? or do you mean it's design document is long over due and accepted a long time ago? if the last one, can I still submit a ticket and hope for it getting fixed in the future?
[22:31] <Neosano> samtate, oh, then try alsamixer or gamix
[22:31] <html_inprogress> pattysmatty,  you can have divx player for ubuntu?
[22:31] <scorch_> Diosjoe, so I have tostartover from scratch?
[22:31] <trism> truepurple: if you mean the preview 64bit one here  http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10_square.html you can just unzip it and copy it to ~/.mozilla/plugins and it should work with both chromium and firefox
[22:31] <ohsix> Kyubey: then pulse isn't autospawning properly by itself, did you do anything funny like try and get it to run in system mode or mess with it's config files?
[22:32] <pattysmatty> html_inprogress, well at least a codec...
[22:32] <pattysmatty> that plays those
[22:32] <Kyubey> ohsix, no
[22:32] <truepurple> trism:  How do I copy it to there?
[22:32] <maxflax> lcb - didn't help much
[22:32] <Kyubey> ohsix - I installed this last night, all I've done is install xchat and set a few compiz shortcuts
[22:32] <perlsyntax> anyone know how to get a truemobile pc card that wireless to work on ubuntu?
[22:32] <html_inprogress> pattysmatty,   ghow  do i get that?
[22:32] <alishah> ohsix: I don't mind if it loads pages a bit slower, i don't want it to affect other apps am running with it.
[22:32] <perlsyntax> 1150
[22:32] <Diosjoe> scorch_ if this installation was aborted under operation, at some random point you have stopped the process,i dont think the can compare the builds and fix the errors
[22:32] <ohsix> Rockj: i said the time for input has mostly passed for things like that, it's not faulty it's just new
[22:33] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out. Any advice?
[22:33] <maxflax> lcb - to bad that log doesn't tell what the problem is.. is a really crappy logging feature
[22:33] <perlsyntax> anyone
[22:33] <pattysmatty> html_inprogress, idk... i accidentally deleted mine a hwile back
[22:33] <pattysmatty> it sucks though
[22:33] <Diosjoe> Like if your installing a game or something else scorch_
[22:33] <webstrand> Why is the distribution upgrade trying to remove a bunch of my games?
[22:33] <Neosano> Soothsayer, oh, when it asks for file system choose linux-swap
[22:33] <Neosano> Soothsayer, that's for swap of course
[22:33] <Diosjoe> if you plug the power, it messes things up
[22:33] <ohsix> alishah: then you need to use something like links that doesn't even load images or anything but text; but seriously once you start doing anything else you're pretty much loading what you browse regardless of what's doing it
[22:33] <scorch_> ok
[22:33] <Soothsayer> Neosano: baa, i chose ext4
[22:33] <trism> truepurple: either using nautilus or if you are in the same directory with it: mkdir -p ~/.mozilla/plugins; cp libflashplayer.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
[22:34] <Soothsayer> and im already in the installer..
[22:34] <Diosjoe> Scorch_ where you updating or installing from scratch?
[22:34] <perlsyntax> someone got to know something on wlan-ng driver
[22:34] <pattysmatty> how do i get the divx plugin
[22:34] <resumenes> hello!
[22:34] <truepurple> trism: How do I even find that directory?
[22:34] <Rockj> ohsix: obiously it is faulty when you drop functionality that has been in unix systems since their beginning.( Being able to focus windows just by moving your mouse ...)
[22:34] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my apt.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:34] <Neosano> Soothsayer, don't worry
[22:34] <Soothsayer> Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!
[22:34] <mrstocks> wwwwwaaaaaaaaaahhh 11.04 whaaaaaaaat
[22:34] <resumenes> hello!
[22:34] <Soothsayer> what is that message?
[22:34] <ohsix> Kyubey: well if nothing has been messed with it should be auto spawning; i don't know what to say
[22:34] <mrstocks> all the menus are like.... left and right
[22:34] <Neosano> Soothsayer, after installation you can run live cd and change your partitions any way you want
[22:34] <resumenes> any spanish=
[22:34] <resumenes> ?
[22:34] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my upgrade log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:34] <mrstocks> i cant see the control panel to move them
[22:34] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out. Someone told me about a script on the alsa website the other day that I could use to fix it, but I cant remember what it was
[22:34] <trism> truepurple: ctrl+h in nautilus shows hidden directories, and ctrl+L lets you type in paths
[22:34] <Kyubey> I'm gonna try restarting
[22:34] <ohsix> Rockj: no, they didn't remove anything; it's entirely new, that's a red herring
[22:34] <resumenes> any spanish to talk?
[22:35] <tauntaun> Is there anyway to encode a CD onto my ipod using Rhythmbox?  If not, can another application do it?
[22:35] <z0mbyk1d> apparently not many people read about the changes in natty before they upgraded... getting so goddamned sick of people whininc about how they dumbed it down
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> !es | resumenes
[22:35] <z0mbyk1d> i am enjoying the upgrades personally, but then again I only run server edition!
[22:35] <ohsix> Rockj: and even asserting it was a good idea when it was added "in the beginning" is another red herring, you simply like it, therefore it is a good idea
[22:35] <tauntaun> In other words, is there something like iTunes for Ubuntu?
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> tauntaun: use soundjuicer
[22:35] <Soothsayer> ok, i rebooted and that error went away.
[22:35] <Soothsayer> Strange stuff with the 11.04 installer.
[22:35] <alishah> samtate: Can you tell me the name of the browser again please. am using irssi n i don't know how 2 scrol up.
[22:35] <Mac_Weber> I followed this tutorial to install tomcat. However, it is not auto starting at boot. http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/installing-tomcat-6-on-ubuntu
[22:35] <Diosjoe> tauntaun tried googling, Itunes linux
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> tauntaun: or you can use rhythmnbox or banshee to put songs onto it
[22:36] <samtate> alishah: Midori
[22:36] <Rockj> ohsix: you still break compability with work flow that's been working since the "80's". Now your doing the same mistake as Apple have done, making the toolbar stuck at the top so your unable to access it at all if your using auto focus by mouse...
[22:36] <Mac_Weber> I'm on ubuntu 10.04. How to fix it?
[22:36] <alishah> samtate: thanks :)
[22:36] <ohsix> Rockj: i sympathize but it's not a useful way of thinking if you want to improve it, you simply want what you like and use added to the new thing, which kind of defeats the purpose a little
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> Mac_Weber: did you update-rc.d\
[22:36] <KM0201> tauntaun: itunes alternatives under linux aren't very good IME... i eventually just started runing xp in vbox, and syncing my ipod w/ itunes
[22:36] <conical> is it a bad, bad idea to try and use my ubuntu box as a DNS server for my home intranet?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> tauntaun: some versions of itunes will run in some versions of wine
[22:36] <Neosano> tauntaun, like someone knows what is itunes, lol, I never got a point of it.
[22:36] <ohsix> Rockj: it's a mistake from your perspective
[22:36] <truepurple> trism:  ~/.mozilla the ~ is what ever your name is listed as? Then create a directory called plugins and just drop the file in?
[22:36] <Mac_Weber> z0mbyk1d: just type update-rc.d?
[22:36] <ohsix> Rockj: it's a design decision from someone elses perspective
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> Mac_Weber: type man update-rc.d
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> conical: not at all, it will speed up the web :)
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> and learn a bit
[22:36] <z0mbyk1d> you need to define what runlevels tomcat should start at
[22:36] <trism> truepurple: yep, ~ is your home directory, so if your username is truepurple, it would expand to /home/truepurple
[22:37] <escott> conical, your router will usually want to be a dns, but you might be able to turn it off
[22:37] <conical> is there an "easy" way to do it
[22:37] <z0mbyk1d> look under /etc/init.d too to see if tomcat created a script for itself
[22:37] <Kyubey> Haha
[22:37] <Kyubey> ohsix
[22:37] <pattysmatty> firefox4 is shit
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> conical: I put a dns server on allmy systems as tey will cache resolutions, speed up the web nicely
[22:37] <ohsix> haroon: installed which one? b43-fwcutter has a script you need to run to do it, and bcmwl-kernel-source would need a reboot, or at least an rmmod ssb & b43 then modprobe wl
[22:37] <z0mbyk1d> depending on how it was installed it may not have
[22:37] <conical> i can point the router to my home machine
[22:37] <Kyubey> ohsix, guess what? Restarting fixed it XD
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> pattysmatty: keep it family friendly please
[22:37] <trism> truepurple: but ~ is automatically expanded, so you can actually type a ~
[22:37] <escott> conical, rather i mean dhcp
[22:37] <Kyubey> ohsix, I think it might be because I was hibernating
[22:37] <ny51bern> lcb: is that "install the package maintainer's version"
[22:37] <tauntaun> Well I have Rhythmbox running, but I have no sense of where to find a 'rip' command, like the 'encode' of iTunes.  Any ideas?
[22:37] <Neosano> conical well maybe you need something smaller than ubuntu?
[22:37] <ohsix> pattysmatty: if you need help or have a question please ask, otherwise take offtopic things to #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:37] <Rockj> ohsix: bad design decision then if I may say so ;-)  But does this Unity have a project side so I at least can make a ticket about it?
[22:37] <ny51bern> lcb: option
[22:37] <scorch_> Diosjoe updateing
[22:37] <ohsix> Kyubey: highly unlikely re: hibernating
[22:37] <conical> a second machine to just do dns
[22:37] <ActionParsnip> conical: you'd tell yoursystems to use the DNS system first, you can set interfaces to DHCP (address only)
[22:38] <z0mbyk1d> ok, quitting in prep to reboot into 10.04 on this server
[22:38] <pattysmatty> ActionParsnip, how do i get a divx codec running in firefox???
[22:38] <mrstocks> Where is my menu!!!!!
[22:38] <z0mbyk1d> got a long way to go before i am on natty hehe
[22:38] <truepurple> trism then just create that directory with that name and plop the file in?
[22:38] <Kyubey> ohsix - anyways, it's working now
[22:38] <Kyubey> Thanks for your help :)
[22:38] <Diosjoe> scorch_ ok, then i would really say, better get reinstalling from scratch
[22:38] <mrstocks> the admin, apparenance and stuff
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> conical: could install a caching proxy too so you don't have to download from the web when you need content if  the newest files are stored already
[22:38] <Neosano> conical, maybe this will help? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/best-distro-for-dns-server-435160/
[22:38] <mrstocks> i have pointless ones
[22:38] <conical> it's probably better to stay away since I don't fully understand it, and doing it improperly could rip a hole in the universe
[22:38] <Karen_m> what's the best flowcharting software for ubuntu?   Know how there is freemind, I was hoping there is something lightweight like it to do flowcharting.
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> pattysmatty: no idea, I don't use it
[22:38] <samtate> In Ubuntu 11.04 on my laptop, sound works fine on the internal speakers, but plugging in external ones cuts it out. Someone told me about a script on the alsa website the other day that I could use to fix it, but I cant remember what it was
[22:38] <ohsix> Rockj: theres ayatana which is the cabal running the show, but they're designers and programmers, i don't think they're much accepting that sort of idea, they have a concept already; you at best can ask for them to account for your use-case, if you provide it
[22:38] <ny51bern> can any1 help with installing ubuntu 11?
[22:38] <conical> well, more like bring down my home network, but close enough
[22:38] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my upgrade log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:39] <samtate> ny51bern: I can, what do you need?
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> samtate: do you have the alsa link it made?
[22:39] <samtate> ActionParsnip: What do you mean?
[22:39] <scorch_> Diosjoe, ok that sucks,  Ill lose everything
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> samtate: you ran the alsa-info script, right?
[22:39] <ny51bern> samtate: ive gotten pretty far (updating from 10 to 11, but a dialog popped up asking :What do you want to do about the modified configuration file grub" ?
[22:39] <samtate> no, you didnt tell me too
[22:39] <Diosjoe> scorch_ how many GB data you want to save?
[22:39] <truepurple> trism: Then just create that directory with that name and plop the file in?
[22:39] <ohsix> Kyubey is going to be back next time pulse closes & doesn't auto spawn :[
[22:40] <samtate> ActionParsnip: You didnt tell me to, so I havent
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> samtate: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[22:40] <trism> truepurple: yes, exactly, just copy and paste it there
[22:40] <scorch_> Diosjoe,my home directory.  can 28 GB.  can I copy it to a External and then copy my whole home dir over ontop of the newly installed?
[22:40] <Diosjoe> scorch_ how about using the live cd and taking copys of anything you want to say,
[22:40] <Diosjoe> yes
[22:40] <trism> truepurple: after you extracted it that is, it should be called libflashplugin.so
[22:40] <deuterium> hm can i convert my ubuntu 10.04 ext4 partition into a ext2 partition? i think i can't shrink my vmware image if the partition is formatted as ext4.
[22:40] <Rockj> ohsix: that's my plan, I would love to hear their input on it. As it seems ubuntu is making Unity the default window manager, I better give them a heads up about the issue ASAP. All the people ive learned linux over the years, they have loved the "mouse focus" feature and other neat features that is pretty common in the world of *nix compared to Windows.
[22:40] <AndrewEMT> ok one quick question... how do I switch the video driver from the nouveau driver to the proprietary NVidia driver (its installed and activated but the Additional drivers app says its not currently in use)?
[22:41] <Diosjoe> scorch_ put in your ubuntu and boot in live, copy your files,etc external
[22:41] <samtate> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=fa638cc776341f0bf3ac4f750616a7469bd7390b
[22:41] <Rockj> ohsix: so may I ask what this ayatana is? website? tracker? *opens google*
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> AndrewEMT: You may need to run:  sudo nvidia-xconfig
[22:41] <scorch_> Diosje ok then after I install I can just opy mysaveed home directory over the new home directory?
[22:41] <AndrewEMT> thanks ActionParsnip will try that
[22:41] <Acriax> Hi, how do I switch from the classic ui to Unity on the login screen? I can't find any button of the sort
[22:41] <JPeterson> well this 11.04 upgrade seems to have went well
[22:42] <truepurple> trism: The file I want to copy is called libflashplayer.so?
[22:42] <JPeterson> first I had to recover grub from the live cd
[22:42] <Soothsayer> Wow
[22:42] <JPeterson> then I get "error no suitable mode found"
[22:42] <AaeRohn> *pokes around* My scanner isn't working... I got the driver and everything, and the printer part of it works, but it doesn't scan... can anyone help?
[22:42] <scorch_> Diosje then I whoould just have to reinstal the prgrams realted
[22:42] <JPeterson> and not a single line of boot text
[22:42] <Soothsayer> Installer crashed. We're sorry, the instalelr crashed...
[22:42] <Diosjoe> scorch_ yes isee no problem in that
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> samtate: try:options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[22:42] <ActionParsnip> samtate: or options snd-hda-intel model=laptop
[22:42] <truepurple> trism: The file I want to copy is called libflashplayer.so?
[22:42] <scorch_> Is there a 11.04 music version?
[22:42] <samtate> ActionParsnip: We already tried the second one remember
[22:43] <mrstocks> 10.04 thinks im a retard do you want to "Check your email?" "Listen to music?" do i have the mum edition?
[22:43] <scorch_> what it called
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> samtate: then try the first.,...
[22:43] <AndrewEMT> ok, so that will switch it right? Just reboot not ActionParsnip
[22:43] <AndrewEMT> now*
[22:43] <scorch_> ubuntu studio 11.04?
[22:43] <Diosjoe> scorch_  what do you mean, music version
[22:43] <ActionParsnip> AndrewEMT: you can restart X or reboot
[22:43] <Diosjoe> oh no
[22:43] <AndrewEMT> ok, thanks bud... appreciate the help :)
[22:43] <samtate> ActionParsnip: ok in a sec
[22:43] <Diosjoe> But there is loads of linux audio tools, etc audiocity
[22:43] <Micc0> I guess they all need to hear from a woman who's ex-boyfriend tracked he through her phone and assaulted her.
[22:43] <Soothsayer> freak, what was that
[22:43] <swatto> Im trying to download the upgrade and only downloading at like 70kb/s - is that normal?
[22:43] <Diosjoe> maybe prologic or cubase supports linux
[22:44] <AaeRohn> *pokes around* My scanner isn't working... I got the driver and everything, and the printer part of it works, but it doesn't scan... can anyone help?
[22:44] <mrstocks> how do you move the menu?
[22:44] <strigoi66_> please help... need wifi drivers for acer aspire 5000 on ubuntu 11.04 look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/600975
[22:44] <aj00200> 9/w 56
[22:44] <karth> anyone know a way to disable font scaling in unity? my title bar is really screwed up, everything looks 8 bit
[22:44] <Mac_Weber> z0mbyk1d I tried "update-rc.d tomcat start 99 2 3 4 5 S . stop 0 1 6 ." as described in http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1188880&highlight=tomcat+autostart Did not work yet
[22:44] <Diosjoe>  swatto - Yes
[22:44] <swatto> Diosjoe, a good so its not my connection playing up then?
[22:45] <Diosjoe>  swatto - from .DK i downloaded from a 50MB line and got in the start between 15-45 KB/s and then in the end came to 150-200 but only a litle
[22:45] <ohsix> Rockj: i think you're making the common fallacy of assuming that your use is the same as an uncounted number of users
[22:45] <Diosjoe> its not your connection, its routing + alot of people getting data fra the ubuntu network
[22:45] <maxflax> I have problem upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 and this is my upgrade log  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600970/
[22:45] <swatto> Diosjoe, ahh ok
[22:45] <samtate> why is firefox so fricking bad?
[22:45] <Diosjoe> Many updating, downloading images, getting drivers, fixingetc
[22:45] <Diosjoe> ;)
[22:45] <phibxr> swatto, use the torrent, gave me 1MB/s. :)
[22:45] <ohsix> Rockj: while that may be true, you can only make the case for yourself; not use these untold number of people to seemingly firm up your position
[22:46] <swatto> phibxr, how would i go about doing that? shall i cancel this upgrade tool thing then?
[22:46] <lcb> maxflax, sorry, i have visitors here. try going to recovery again (SHIFT | - select the 2nd kernel  option from the top = recovery mode | go to the end of the new menu and select "root prompt" and type ' sudo dpkg --configure -a ' see if that helps.
[22:46] <scorch_> Diosjoe:  Just found it...  its there:https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/11.04release_notes
[22:46] <phibxr> swatto, oh, you're upgrading. nevermind then. no idea. :)
[22:46] <ny51bern> samtate: any ideas?
[22:46] <AndrewEMT> ok still says its activated but not in use... sheesh
[22:46] <Diosjoe> Nice scorch
[22:46] <samtate> ny51bern: LOL
[22:47] <phibxr> swatto, i usually keep my /home partition intact and perform clean installs instead. :)
[22:47] <ny51bern> samtate: ?
[22:47] <samtate> ny51bern: you cant install ubuntu
[22:47] <ny51bern> samtate: why not?
[22:47] <samtate> ny51bern: i dunno, i made that up
[22:47] <ny51bern> samtate: well thanks for ur help =.=
[22:48] <AaeRohn> anyone available to help with a printer/scanner issue?
[22:48] <samtate> ny51bern: i would help you, but i dont know
[22:48] <peteb> Hai guys, is there a specific gnome3 channel?
[22:48] <ohsix> AaeRohn: they might, but you need to tell them the issue first
[22:48] <Rockj> ohsix: ok, but I still would love to submit the ticket - so where would be the best place to do so? And is there any other Unity intro/tutorial with common usages? Unity looks like OS X but is there like shortcuts for minimizing windows like in OS X etc?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: askaway
[22:48] <samtate> AaeRohn: me
[22:48] <trism> truepurple: yes, that is correct
[22:48] <samtate> AaeRohn: whats the matter?
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> Rockj: press Winkey + D
[22:48] <Diosjoe> Im going to buy a touchscreen monitor now that unity works this great
[22:48] <lcb> btw, what i wrote before goes for every unfinished upgrades. hopefully it works
[22:48] <truepurple> trism: Thanks, I see you said that earlier, but I missed that in the sea of text
[22:49] <Rockj> ActionParsnip: that minimizes every window ActionParsnip . Possible to minimize only the selected window pr. default?
[22:49] <ExplodingPiglets> xkill is not working on firefox
[22:49] <trism> truepurple: it's okay, it's really flying because 11.04 just came out
[22:49] <ExplodingPiglets> I opened one of these unclosable meatspin links.
[22:49] <harovali> hi , where do I set the default console font ?
[22:49] <harovali> in ubuntu 11.04
[22:49] <AaeRohn> well I did try a couple times... I have a Brother MFC-6490CW and the printer works fine, but the scanner does not... I have both the printer, and scanner drivers for this model for linux, but it still doesnt work
[22:49] <Soothsayer> "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed"
[22:50] <Acriax> How come my top bar is all grey and boring? Is obsidian-coloured and cool-looking right after I log in, then it flickers and changes to the old boring one.
[22:50] <ExplodingPiglets> Can somebody help me? I am tiring of seeing a spinning phallus jumping around my computer
[22:50] <Soothsayer> why do I get that message while it boots into the 11.04 installer ?
[22:50] <truepurple> trism: I also need help with setting up a ati driver for me radeon 6850 so I can use 11.04, can you help me with that?
[22:50] <computergeeksjw> Just installed ubuntu and booted up fine. I selected the option to install the proprietary driver and selected the new driver (instead of the installed but inactivated driver). After rebooting, the system locks up after login. I can move the cursor but can't click on anything.
[22:50] <trism> truepurple: better to ask the channel, I don't have any ati cards
[22:50] <ExplodingPiglets> Well, thanks for the help guys.
[22:50] <AndrewEMT> anyone know why despite my running sudo nvidia-xconfig it still says the driver is activated but not currently in use? Am i missing something here?
[22:50] <computergeeksjw> It's an nvdiia card
[22:50] <strigoi66_> Hello, how do I get wireless drivers for natty on acer aspire 5000 laptop I have tried the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/600975
[22:50] <truepurple> Anyone able to help me set up a driver for a radeon 6850?
[22:50] <Diosjoe> computergeeksjw
[22:51] <mrstocks> anyone has teamviewer to me with a UI question?
[22:51] <Diosjoe> are you using ATI card?
[22:51] <ExplodingPiglets>  sarcasm :Unknown command
[22:51] <Diosjoe> truepurple
[22:51] <Diosjoe> is it installed already, but not working correctly?
[22:51] <computergeeksjw> Diosjoe: Nvidia
[22:51] <truepurple> It is installed, but its abilities are limited, I can not set it past 800x600, and apparently may be the reason 11.04 won't load for me
[22:51] <truepurple> Diosjoe:
[22:52] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip, samtate: (in case you didnt see it, forgot to add names) well I did try a couple times... I have a Brother MFC-6490CW and the printer works fine, but the scanner does not... I have both the printer, and scanner drivers for this model for linux, but it still doesnt work
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> Rockj: There is a custom command section, you may be able to put a code in one then assign a shortcut to run that command. I'd ask in #compiz
[22:52] <Diosjoe> computergeeksjw sorry dont know about nvid
[22:52] <mrstocks> i can't find the "allow the menu to move" in 10.04 its driving me mad!
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: what is the output of:  uname -m
[22:52] <Diosjoe> truepurple, what?
[22:52] <truepurple> Diosjoe: It is installed, but its abilities are limited, I can not set it past 800x600, and apparently may be the reason 11.04 won't load for me
[22:52] <computergeeksjw> Anyone else?
[22:53] <lucas> Someone please help... I try to build a custom live cd with nvidia drivers on it. Is there any way to automate at bootup the process of chosing the nvidia driver instead of nouveau? If so is there a way to have mesa for computers which haven't nvidia?
[22:53] <Diosjoe> mrstock under preference, try Launcher & Menus
[22:53] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: i686
[22:53] <teehvi> hi, updated to 11.04 and firefox 4 doesn't show my bookmarks toolbar. any idea where could i find it?
[22:53] <AndrewEMT> ok, maybe I'll uninstall and reinstall the driver... maybe that will help...
[22:53] <Diosjoe> truepurple, can you do sudo lspci | GREP ATI
[22:53] <basso> how can i add /usr/games to my x sessions?
[22:53] <Tetsuo55_2> i hope canonical is keeping the devs active during this weekend, unity has some really annoying bugs that make the desktop unusable
[22:53] <truepurple> Diosjoe: You want me to type that in a terminal? What does it do?
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: so you installed: http://www.brother.com/pub/bsc/linux/dlf/brscan3-0.2.11-4.i386.deb
[22:54] <Diosjoe> it tell us about your gfx card
[22:54] <computergeeksjw> Is there a way to boot up and log in without activating the driver? Is that recovery mode?
[22:54] <Diosjoe> truepurple, yes in terminal, first write sudo su, enter your code, then lspci | GREP ATI
[22:54] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: the only drivers available for the printer/scanner, so yes
[22:54] <fholmes> What is the best way to configure the SATA controllers in my BIOS?  As AHCI devices?  Or just standard IDE devices?
[22:54] <mrstocks> can i revert to the old distro version?
[22:54] <cache_surplus> hello, im trying to ubuntu 10.10 32bit on a windows xp laptop. when i boot to cdrom, windows xp continues to own the laptop...
[22:54] <mongy> Diosjoe, lowercase grep
[22:54] <n3glv> quick natty question, on remix it was possible to use ubuntu desktop instead of unity, is that feature still in natty?
[22:54] <truepurple> Diosjoe: May we please talk in PM?
[22:54] <Soothsayer> Anyone experienced the "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!" ?
[22:54] <cache_surplus> usb not an option
[22:55] <Soothsayer> n3glv: yes
[22:55] <cache_surplus> netboot not an option, no pxe
[22:55] <Diosjoe> Thanks mongy
[22:55] <Diosjoe> Yes true
[22:55] <karth> n3glv: @ login screen, select ubuntu classic
[22:55] <Soothsayer> n3glv: you can pick it during your login screen
[22:55] <lcb> Soothsayer, boot from live cd or usb and check the file-system
[22:55] <n3glv> cache_surplus: sounds like an issue with grub installer
[22:55] <lucas> n3glv: It is, running classic desktop right now
[22:55] <Soothsayer> lcb: i've booted.. reformattinig it to ext3 now
[22:55] <n3glv> ok Soothsayer so, same as unr, just hit the user then select at bottom?
[22:55] <cache_surplus> cdrom boots, verified by disabling hd with switch+1 on pheonix bios set up
[22:55] <cache_surplus> n3glv: oh?
[22:55] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: Any more suggestions?
[22:55] <lcb> Soothsayer, why ext3?
[22:56] <lucas> Someone please help... I try to build a custom live cd with nvidia drivers on it. Is there any way to automate at bootup the process of chosing the nvidia driver instead of nouveau? If so is there a way to have mesa for computers which haven't nvidia?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: keep searching for those options, one will make it fly
[22:56] <cache_surplus> n3glv: i think its a bios proprietary issue,,, maybe your right, can you help assist in trbshting?
[22:56] <karth> n3glv: if classic doesn't work, try  classic without effects, had to to get it to work on an old machine.
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: how did you make the install CD?
[22:56] <n3glv> cache_surplus: beyond me, but yes check bios setting
[22:56] <samtate_> ActionParsnip: What should I even search for?
[22:56] <Soothsayer> n3glv: yes
[22:56] <Soothsayer> lcb: for some reason ext4 has never worked on this laptop.
[22:56] <ohsix> lucas: you can't distribute that
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> samtate_: alsa-base.conf then the model of your system
[22:57] <lcb> Soothsayer, oh... weird
[22:57] <tauntaun> OK, I've figured out how to copy a track from CD to Rhythmbox's Music folder.  Now how do I get it into my iPod?
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: the cd boots right up when hd is disabled in bios
[22:57] <Soothsayer> lcb: tried it on 10.10 too.. used to not format.. this time it formatted to ext4.. but the installer crashed
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: that should answer that
[22:57] <tauntaun> (...I've tried a number of things, none of which work.)
[22:57] <ohsix> lucas: and instaling the proprietary nvidia drivers involves a lot of ugly, you can't generally have both; but there are a bunch of python scripts that try and pick the right one to use
[22:57] <lcb> Soothsayer, what utility are you using to format?
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: furthermore, i have tried multiple os, cd's, burn speeds so forth...
[22:57] <n3glv> my other small beef is that on this old pc, I stuck in the 11.04 disk, it said there was upgrade, I said ok, and it's getting EVERYTHING via my slow interrnet, has not hid the cd at all
[22:57] <slashnames> c0mp13371331337 mssssm_ Dominater Whitor jkarlos surreal7z slashnames coolkid25 ardchoille codebeaker fholmes Stameni1 jotbe n3glv nardea samtate_ int3nz0r SaneWarning kkartas Prodego sre-su lucas mfilipe miniuser m3t4lukas GasbaKid Tetsuo55_2 peteb wilbur_cobb TheCynic sechrist computergeeksjw BostX PaulEycks DBO rtghuzhg alles-wird-gut rheilol_ Spacewalker Egonis shamino_ mirco Micc0 Micco m00se davidcalle Tohuw Acriax AaeRohn Ja
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: i see, maybe you need a bootoption. Is the system a branded PC or laptop
[22:57] <n3glv> what's the point to offering upgrade from cd if it then uses the internet?
[22:57] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip:  xp will only load on this, and also, oh.. um
[22:57] <Stameni1> join #what ?
[22:58] <Stameni1> what ?
[22:58] <lucas> ohsix: This is not to distribute... Only for my own personalised usb-stick
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: did you use the alternate cd?
[22:58] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: there is cdrom, hd, net, floppy, thats it
[22:58] <wilbur_cobb> turning gentoo into ubuntu step by step... can it be done?
[22:58] <m3t4lukas> what is slashnames?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: what make and model is the system?
[22:58] <n3glv> ActionParsnip: no, normal narwal desktop i386
[22:58] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: toshiba satellite, an older one, prolly with usb 1.0 ports
[22:58] <wilbur_cobb> not really my serious intention, just asking for the hell of it
[22:58] <cache_surplus> brb
[22:58] <ardchoille> slashnames: Please don't highlight people like that
[22:58] <ohsix> lucas: then why can't you just install ubuntu to the usb stick, then install the nvidia drivers?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: then that won't work. The upgrade doc clearly states you need the alternate cd
[22:58] <karth> m3t4lukas: apparently, a bot that is designed to irritate people.
[22:59] <n3glv> cache_surplus: for usb try looking for usb options like enhanced or 2.0 vs 1.1
[22:59] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Can you please help me fix Ubuntu?
[22:59] <n3glv> ActionParsnip: I find this out, after starting a NINE HOUR UPGRADE!
[22:59] <Soothsayer> lcb: gparted
[22:59] <cache_surplus> n3glv: one moment ok,,, ActionParsnip for a second
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: what model satelite?
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: researching is useful
[22:59] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: 3005-s307, part# ps302u-019xdx
[22:59] <Rockj> hm, gnome3-session depends on a package named gnome-shell which isn't in the repos?
[22:59] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: im not that fast
[22:59] <Soothsayer> brb reboot
[23:00] <cache_surplus> n3glv: explain. thanks
[23:00] <lcb> Soothsayer, delete and then format ext4?!... (try setting the bios to defaults and also detecting properly the disks
[23:00] <lucas> ohsix: tried this method, but when I go to a computer with an ATI card I haven't acceleration...
[23:00] <wilbur_cobb> nine hour upgrade? mehehe, we gentoo users laugh at that
[23:00] <n3glv> meh, I just expect that when it's sensing a cd with newer version and offering to upgrade, that it would do it from CD media
[23:00] <cache_surplus> there is no usb boot option in bios
[23:00] <n3glv> wilbur_cobb: ricer! <wink>
[23:00] <toto654> hi everyone...i jsut found out ubuntu 11-04
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> n3glv: if you want to clean install you have the right cd
[23:00] <computergeeksjw> Is there a way to temporarily disable loading of graphics drivers?
[23:00] <wilbur_cobb> ?
[23:00] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: agrees
[23:00] <toto654> why you all talk about gnome3 but its unity
[23:01] <cache_surplus> i have the right os
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> computergeeksjw: add the bootoption:  modulename.blacklist=1
[23:01] <ohsix> lucas: the proprietary drivers are decidedly not nice, it's probably a situation you'll have to live with if you use them
[23:01] <n3glv> computergeeksjw: interrupt grub loader, init=0
[23:01] <n3glv> ooops 1
[23:01] <n3glv> if u want networking, init=3
[23:01] <ohsix> lucas: nouveau ships with natty, maybe you can get by without any proprietary drivers
[23:01] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: ill wait, thanks...
[23:01] <strigoi66> Help please, need wifi driver for natty on acer aspire 5000 laptop I have tried the following( http://paste.ubuntu.com/600975 )
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: try setting the sata to ide mode, look in BIOS for options
[23:02] <lucas> ohsix: till maverick I made a script that copied or removed an xorg.config in the case there was an nvidia driver
[23:02] <ohsix> gross
[23:02] <lucas> ohsix: Now I see xorg.config got obsolete
[23:02] <cache_surplus> ok
[23:02] <rgr> its not obsolete at all
[23:02] <ohsix> it was obsolete then
[23:02] <AaeRohn> anyone who can help with scanner issue that's not being occupied with somoene else at the moment?... My scanner (MFC-6490CW) will not work with Simple Scan, or Xsane Image Scanner, even though I have all the drivers installed... this is part of my income, so I need the scanner to work
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> lucas: its not, if one exists it will be obeyed
[23:02] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: ok, ill try that... that might be it..
[23:03] <Neosano> sudo apt-get install firefox will install firefox 4 or 3?
[23:03] <ohsix> you can still put configuration options in an xorg.conf but you shouldn't want or have to; if something is broke it's probably a bug
[23:03] <shane4ubuntu1> ok, on movie player (totem) the right arrow key used to advance 1min and the left went backwards 10 or 30 seconds, they don't work anymore?????
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: if you also try the boot option:  noacpi   it may help
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> Neosano: which release ?
[23:03] <rgr> obsix : there are loads of bugs.
[23:03] <Neosano> ActionParsnip, I'm on 11.04
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> !info firefox natty | Neosano
[23:03] <testbe> hello please help me
[23:03] <ohsix> rgr: i'm confident you're filing them instead of just complaining about them
[23:03] <testbe> i bought a new pc
[23:03] <n3glv> strigoi66: you try lspci or dmesg|more to find out the manufacturer of the wifi?
[23:03] <testbe> and i want install ubuntu on
[23:03] <Caly> hi folks
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Neosano: its in a default install so isn't required to be ran
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> !download | testbe
[23:04] <ninjai> just came from beta, fresh install of 11.04.  I get a weird scale icon in the bottom right corner of some windows (google chrome), and sometimes a blue triangle in the top left corner when I use unity.  WTF?
[23:04] <testbe> yes and
[23:04] <Neosano> ActionParsnip, haha. well I'm on lubuntu. :D ok thx
[23:04] <rgr> ohsix: You would be correct on the former. Stop misleading people. There are oodles of cases where an xorf.conf is required. It is not true to say its obsolete.
[23:04] <strigoi66> n3glv: no, will try now .
[23:04] <ohsix> rgr: the bugs are cases where people need to do workarounds, the default should work
[23:04] <lucas> ActionParsnip: Believe me, it worked... It was scripted to do a delete during bootup, or to copy a customized xorg.config.nvidia in it's place
[23:04] <testbe> i dont want to use unity or gnome 3
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Neosano: I see, nice.Lubuntu kicks ass
[23:04] <rgr> ohsix: this is simply not true.
[23:04] <ohsix> rgr: if you need one, you are doing something wrong, full stop
[23:04] <Rockj> AaeRohn: is it a usb scanner? open up a terminal, type dmesg , take note of latest "timestamp" on the last entry. Plug in your scanner and type dmesg again, does it seems to register and be handed of to any device?
[23:04] <rgr> ohsix:  then you dont know what youre talking about.
[23:04] <Neosano> ActionParsnip, yeah, especially the last version :>
[23:04] <testbe> i dont want to use unity or gnome 3
[23:04] <Caly> i updated to 11.04 today, and it totally  fucked up my system, no it won't even boot from CD =/
[23:05] <ohsix> rgr: i do, sorry to break it to you
[23:05] <rgr> xorg.conf contains a lot more than nvidia info and xrandr doesnt work on many cards.
[23:05] <computergeeksjw> ActionParsnip: how do I add that?
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> testbe: gnome3 isn't part of ubuntu default. You can boot to traditional desktop if you don't like unity
[23:05] <testbe> okaz
[23:05] <ohsix> rgr: you'll notice that the manual pages for the xorg drivers are still there so you can add workarounds in exceptional situations
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> !bootoption | computergeeksjw
[23:05] <daniel__> i dont know whats wrong i had wifi before the upgrade but now i have no wifi (10.10 - 11.04) it doesnt evan glow the little led light that says wifi
[23:05] <rgr> and if you set up multiple mointor then the nvidia settings writes to xorg.cof still. You're talking through your arse.
[23:05] <ohsix> rgr: you say "many", but it's just nvidia's proprietary driver re: xrandr
[23:05] <OY1R> can anyone help me fix this boot up problem, i cannot boot Ubuntu 10.10 >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600969/
[23:05] <testbe> actionParsnip: do you know if you can limit the desktops to 1
[23:05] <AaeRohn> Rockj: that's a long list >.> *starts looking through for the scanner*
[23:05] <testbe> in unity
[23:05] <n3glv> testbe: at user prompt screen click user, then select in text at bottom of screen, ubuntu desktop
[23:05] <rgr> Look, I use use nvidia for years on multi monitor. I know you're wrong.
[23:05] <Caly> daniel__: seems i'm not talone then...
[23:06] <ohsix> rgr: that is an exceptional case with the proprietary nvidia driver, and that's nvidias problem, complain to them
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> testbe: sure, in ccsm
[23:06] <ardchoille> rgr , ohsix Can you take that to another channel please?
[23:06] <Neosano> !info kupfer natty
[23:06] <Neosano> old :<
[23:06] <basti> is there an easy tool to merge a srt subtitle into a mkv video file?
[23:06] <rgr> ohsix: it is the users problem.
[23:06] <ohsix> rgr: that's great, you know nvidia's driver is awful; good on you
[23:06] <ohsix> rgr: users have nouveau and xrandr
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: works great here :)
[23:06] <testbe> actionParsnip: then i thing i like unitz
[23:06] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: ok, no sata option, also, at boot i press <C> to force boot cdrom, xp splash still loads...
[23:06] <daniel__> Caly, why would they make an update that goes backwards theres no up about this blows im using my phone to tether right now ...
[23:06] <arand> OY1R: What kind of filesystem setup do you have?
[23:06] <testbe> my problem always if i maximed an window
[23:06] <testbe> it was on another desktop
[23:06] <Rockj> AaeRohn: just look at the botton, "dmesg" shows you system messages (important ones basically) , I wanted you to type it once before you plugged in the scanner just to notice what has already been printed, then a second time after you have plugged it in. That way you could easily see what is new messages ;-)
[23:06] <alishah> exit
[23:06] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: did you try the boot option?
[23:06] <daniel__> i dont know whats wrong i had wifi before the upgrade but now i have no wifi (10.10 - 11.04) it doesnt evan glow the little led light that says wifi
[23:06] <Caly> daniel__: i'm using Trisquel on another computer...
[23:07] <testbe> actionParsnip: then i thing i like unity
[23:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: multiple monitors & static config?
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> cache_surplus: could try booting usb instead
[23:07] <testbe> it was on an other desktop
[23:07] <OY1R> Arachon, it's the 10.10 default i think it's ext4
[23:07] <Maxud> Hello I am force installing 32 bit driver for printer on 64 bit system, and I get many dependence errors, what I need to install
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: only got one monitor for 4 PCs
[23:07] <testbe> my problem always if i maximed an window
[23:07] <rgr> lucas: bottom line is that xorg.conf is NOT obsolete. There are cases where you can get by without one. Its still a transition time. Idiots saying "blame nvidia" are on a moral crusade and not one to actually help you.
[23:07] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip:  no usb option
[23:07] <Soothsayer> 11.04 installed this time.. looks like some issue with ext4
[23:07] <OY1R> arand, , it's the 10.10 default i think it's ext4
[23:07] <testbe> it was on an other desktop
[23:07] <daniel__> Caly, we shouldnt have to lol its not like were playing with a beta why did we lose our wifi ?
[23:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: then you don't get the pleasure of what we're talking about
[23:07] <lucas> c'mon guys I'll accept nouveau made some good progress, but it's way slower than the prop thingy
[23:07] <arand> OY1R: Try reinstalling grub.
[23:07] <ohsix> rgr: you're on a moral crusade my friend
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I use xorg.conf, yes
[23:07] <ohsix> lucas: indeed, but now it's in wide use
[23:07] <arand> !grub | OY1R
[23:07] <n3glv> cache_surplus: some pc do not show the option unless device is connected/has a disk in it
[23:07] <cache_surplus> ActionParsnip: i am wondering if i need to make a usb 1.0/1.1 boot disk and try that... maybe it will show up as a HD
[23:07] <Caly> daniel__: that's not all i lost, i cant even boot up
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: no, it works well
[23:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: my condolences
[23:07] <daniel__> i dont know whats wrong i had wifi before the upgrade but now i have no wifi (10.10 - 11.04) it doesnt evan glow the little led light that says wifi
[23:08] <rgr> lucas: nouveau is garbage compared to the ndiai one. Look up using sgfxi for your nvidia setup.
[23:08] <daniel__> Caly, why whats wrong with that
[23:08] <cache_surplus> n3glv: i tried usb install first before cd, usb first then cd always for me
[23:08] <Caly> i do get the ubuntu boot screen for a ew seconds when i turn it of... =(
[23:08] <testbe> ActionParsnip, do you think, in 11.10 is still an gnome 2 _
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: the xorg.cof file is older than ubuntu, it works well so I use it :)
[23:08] <cache_surplus> im wondering if i should try a usb 1.0 flash drive, since this an oldddd laptop
[23:08] <ohsix> rgr: nvidia is garbage because it doesn't do xrandr 1.2+
[23:08] <Caly> i just get a bunch of test / terminal boot sequence stuff
[23:08] <ActionParsnip> testbe: it is
[23:08] <testbe> ok
[23:08] <ohsix> rgr: but one is free and can be improved
[23:08] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed"
[23:08] <n3glv> cache_surplus: on some pc I have to go into the boot options page (f-10 or 12) to see the cdrom as bootable
[23:08] <ninjai> can you change the 'shortcuts' in the unity menu?
[23:08] <rgr> ActionParsnip: ohsix is talking nonsense. In many many many cases you need an xorg.conf. It is NOT obsolete : end of story.
[23:09] <jeff__> can someone help me with a question about compiz
[23:09] <cache_surplus> i need a tool set of disks/usbs/1.0/2.0 it seems to have any luck with installing ubuntu on any box sighs...
[23:09] <daniel__> so is ubuntu 11.04 not done yet and should i have wated to download it ? because i have no wifi at all
[23:09] <ohsix> rgr: in many EXCEPTIONAL cases, you may need one
[23:09] <cache_surplus> n3glv: im done with the basics, i need the work around
[23:09] <lucas> rgr: that's correct about nvidia. If nouveau comes that far, I will surely use it... After all I am an avid open-source fan too, but if something works good I have to accept it
[23:09] <Soothsayer> is it possible to virtualize my dual-bootable Windows 7 within Ubuntu ?
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> rgr: i know its not obsolete.  preeching to the choir dude
[23:09] <cache_surplus> F2
[23:09] <Maxud> Hello I am force installing 32 bit driver for printer on 64 bit system, and I get many dependence errors, what I need to install
[23:09] <Caly> and i fet a fail message from "*Stopping automatic crash report generation
[23:09] <Soothsayer> so I don't have to restart to go back to windows
[23:09] <n3glv> cache_surplus: might need to use the alternate cd
[23:09] <vivid> rgr, thats correct, not having one does not suffice for specialized video setups
[23:09] <ohsix> rgr: but you don't want one if you aren't in an exceptional situation, it's highly higly contraindicated
[23:09] <rgr> Ah ok, I cant stand people misleading others in a help channel as he is doing.
[23:09] <AaeRohn> RockJ: okaaay... did so... but how is knowing what th emessages say help me get the scanner working?
[23:09] <jon_gee> any one get this error after 11.04 install " hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:09] <cache_surplus> n3glv: nope, been there done that,, your right, but im past that stage
[23:09] <shane4ubuntu1> no one know of totem?  I can't even drag the slider to go forward or backward on a file, very odd, is that a bug?
[23:09] <AndrewEMT> Ok, have tried everything I know here... the NVidia driver still come up activated but not currently in use under the additional drivers app
[23:09] <n3glv> cache_surplus: make sure there is nothing that's 'protecting' your boot sector
[23:09] <rgr> lucas: sane as. I write code for FSF but I use what works.
[23:10] <daniel__> does anyone here know anything about the reason why internet wouldnt work if i had it before the update and dont know
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> Maxud: you will need to pull down the deb for the deb, extract the file and copy .so file to /usr/lib32
[23:10] <cache_surplus> this is the second laptop i have had an issue with the past month for a customer
[23:10] <Rockj> AaeRohn: paste the info here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[23:10] <rgr> daniel__: ipv6 possibly.
[23:10] <jeff__> is compiz disabled when you install ubuntu with the Wibi installer
[23:10] <cache_surplus> n3glv: have you used freebsd? that wouldnt even allow me to load it
[23:10] <ohsix> rgr: if you're literally talking about an xorg.conf being loaded and read, you're right; it still does that
[23:10] <jon_gee> any one get this error after 11.04 install " hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:10] <daniel__> rgr, whats that ?
[23:10] <coreire> Hey, I'm having a little trouble with grub. I have Ubuntu 11.04, Windows 7, and Mandriva 2010.2 installed. I installed ubuntu last and installed the bootloader along with it. When I choose Windows 7 from the menu the system immediately reboots. I've tried the system tools on the Windows 7 disc and it says it can't find any problem with the windows installation. Any ideas on what I should do? Thanks
[23:10] <Caly> ehrmm... is 11.04 a really fubar update?
[23:10] <rgr> daniel__: google
[23:10] <cache_surplus> im pretty sure this is a bios hardware issue or something proprietary
[23:10] <n3glv> cache_surplus: last freebsd I used was 2.2.2
[23:10] <n3glv> ;-p
[23:10] <ohsix> rgr: i thought you were just talking about being on a help channel
[23:11] <ActionParsnip> jeff__: if the default packages can give 3d accelleration then compiz will be used
[23:11] <cache_surplus> n3glv:  well,,, its improved since then lol
[23:11] <ohsix> !google | rgr
[23:11] <n3glv> of course, first slackware was 0.0.9
[23:11] <g0t> Results for | rgr on Google:
[23:11] <g0t> --
[23:11] <cache_surplus> anyway, im gonna try to find a usb 1.0 next... ill be back
[23:11] <n3glv> 56 floppies to get the libs to compile the kernel
[23:11] <rgr> I told him what area to look for. ipv6.
[23:11] <orbiting> Um, just upgraded to Natty. Anyone else using eclipse?
[23:11] <karth> Caly: It's not really making it easy
[23:11] <jon_gee> any one get this error after 11.04 install " hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:11] <cache_surplus> and also the #hardware room suggested i upgrade the bios .. typical
[23:11] <klunky999> hello everyone
[23:11] <n3glv> cache_surplus: seen a few usb sticks that would not boot
[23:11] <Caly> karth: huh, what?
[23:12] <ohsix> rgr: if you have information you want to provide, provide it; google provides results almost unique to each user, it will find different things than a google search you run will
[23:12] <klunky999> im with problems with ubuntu and windows 7 grub loading already posted here
[23:12] <karth> Caly: a lot of people have had frozen installers, and unity doesn't work for a lot of people,
[23:12] <strigoi66> n3glv: this is what i got from lspci http://paste.ubuntu.com/601007
[23:12] <klunky999> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7
[23:12] <daniel__> rgr, so what do i do with this ?
[23:12] <karth> Caly: so, while it works great when installed fresh, upgrades are really not pleasant right now.
[23:12] <Caly> karth: so what do i do about it?
[23:12] <AaeRohn> Rockj: ok, now what?
[23:12] <cache_surplus> just a heads up, the last box i did, i even did a zero the drive with a maxtor 4.0 disk,,, that did not fix the issue
[23:13] <jeff__> I have an ATI 6970 card and installed the ATI CCC driver, but I don't seem to have Compiz support. Is it still located in the change apperance menu ?
[23:13] <n3glv> strigoi66:  Broadcom Corporation BCM4318
[23:13] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: what do you use xorg.conf for, adding modes?
[23:13] <cache_surplus> n3glv: regarding your mbr fix
[23:13] <Rockj> AaeRohn: paste the link here so I can take a quick look.
[23:13] <rgr> daniel__: who knows. I dont know the details. Look up ipv6 issues with Ubuntu. It *might* be the issue. I am merely giving you a pointer. ipv6 often fubars debian and ubuntu updates.
[23:13] <n3glv> u may have to play with google to find broadcom driver stuff
[23:13] <karth> Caly: What I'm oding... come in here, post your problems, and hope someone has some ideas.
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I only use one mode
[23:13] <AaeRohn> Rockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601009/
[23:13] <orbiting> jeff_ I have an nVidia card. Compiz is crapping out on me as well.
[23:13] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: if it's not probed by edid or something else that'd still be one ...
[23:13] <Caly> karth: yeah.. i wasn't goint to update before i moved stuff to mu NAS, but then last morning i got a big fat popup suggestin i do, so i did anywaas... quite a mean suggestion
[23:13] <rjaguar3_> I've been having lots of display issues with 11.04
[23:13] <strigoi66> n3glv: Thanks for the point in right direction.
[23:13] <daniel__> rgr, lol ok
[23:13] <ohsix> rgr: if you're not helping people it's probably not best to send them off in random directions either
[23:13] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: yes, it needs one. Its an old monitor
[23:14] <coreire> Also, i've tried "update-grub" but it's still the same
[23:14] <truepurple> Since I updated to 11.04, my tomboy notes program has disappeared, how do I get it back? Would the files I made with it still be around?
[23:14] <ActionParsnip> jon_gee: do you have an onboard video chip and an agp / PCIexpress video card
[23:14] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:14] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: roger, that's why i asked; it's a far more common special case than any of the other ones, and only needed for drivers that don't do xrandr :]
[23:14] <karth> Caly: yeah,  with the tiny amount of bandwith that people are getting for the install, its not cool that we all get it so fast.
[23:14] <n3glv> truepurple: synaptic?
[23:14] <Caly> ohsix: good going.
[23:14] <AndrewEMT> ok, nvm then... sheesh
[23:14] <truepurple> n3glv: I don't understand
[23:14] <n3glv> truepurple: may need to enable older repos
[23:14] <ohsix> Caly: hm?
[23:14] <syn3rgy> Unity imho was a bigger mistake then Vista was fro Microsoft.
[23:14] <klunky999> im with problems with ubuntu and windows 7 grub loading already posted here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7 , if anyone can help would be awsome \o
[23:15] <truepurple> n3glv: How do I do that?
[23:15] <ohsix> syn3rgy: #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions, this is a help channel
[23:15] <n3glv> truepurple: system > synaptic package manager
[23:15] <jeff__> no, my mb board doesn;t have onboard graphics
[23:15] <jon_gee> any onehey guys any of you experience this error after 11.04 install? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:15] <Caly> ohsix: i meant telling rgr to stop with that ignorant shit
[23:15] <n3glv> truepurple: u can search in synaptic for apps
[23:15] <ohsix> Caly: shrug, people rarely know they're the exception to the rule when they're talking about their own habits
[23:16] <Caly> hehe
[23:16] <KNUBBIG> good evening everyone :)
[23:16] <Caly> good evening chybbt
[23:16] <Rockj> AaeRohn: by the looks of it, it seems to regonize your printer/scanner as a usb storage disc, interessting.  Let me do some research about your scanner
[23:16] <Caly> *chubby
[23:16] <Mac_Weber> I want to switch from apache2 to apache2-mpm-worker. If I do 'apt-get remove apache2' then install apache2-mpm-worker will it keep the old configuration? (such as vhosts)
[23:16] <truepurple> n3glv: I can't make heads or tales of what is in synaptic package manager, but I can't find any tomboy notes anyway
[23:16] <AaeRohn> Rockj: alright
[23:17] <Rockj> AaeRohn: while im searching, you might want to see if the instructions in this forum post helps you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1195552
[23:17] <aj00200> Mac_Weber: I'm not sure, but you could always make a copy just in case
[23:17] <n3glv> truepurple: synaptic lists all the software on the pc, and can download/install more from the repository system
[23:17] <klunky999> im with problems with ubuntu and windows 7 grub loading already posted here http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7 , if anyone can help would be awsome \o
[23:17] <Caly> is there some way i can fore a safe start something, and reverse this fubar upgrade?
[23:17] <truepurple> n3glv: Scratch that, found it, now what?
[23:17] <n3glv> it's like a super version of the ubuntu software thingy
[23:17] <Caly> *force
[23:17] <Karen_m> does upgrading to 11.04 break anything?
[23:17] <Mac_Weber> aj00200: what folders shall I copy?
[23:17] <n3glv> hit reload first truepurple
[23:17] <syn3rgy> ohsix true. I use ccsm extensively. I really need the 3D cube to work with the 3D windows due to the fact that I have 6 VM running all at once. Seems the not even Gnome will work with the cube now? Is this correct?
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Caly: run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[23:17] <giampaolo> after installing 11.04 google-chrome no longer restore last closed session. Any idea?
[23:17] <Caly> Karen_m: i'd say hell yeah
[23:18] <Caly> ActionParsnip: need a promp first...
[23:18] <aj00200> Mac_Weber: I don't know. I figured you knew which files you needed to save.
[23:18] <Karen_m> caly, why is that?
[23:18] <Karen_m> so skip 11.04 for now?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> Caly: boot to root recovery mode, or chroot from livecd
[23:18] <ohsix> syn3rgy: it should, compiz changed but not to that degree
[23:18] <Neosano> !info vuze natty
[23:18] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: not necessarily
[23:18] <Caly> Karen_m: ah, yrah, do that, wait a while, seems there is just a bunch of shit hitting folks that upgrades...
[23:18] <truepurple> n3glv: Mark for reinstallation? My saved notes should still be there, right?
[23:18] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: ye
[23:18] <aj00200> Karen_m: I guess Unity is just a matter of personal preference. If you like it, you keep it, but you can always switch back to Gnome, even on 11.04
[23:19] <n3glv> umm, yeah, think so
[23:19] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error during installation of new 11.04? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:19] <ohsix> syn3rgy: you'll just need to set it up again as compiz changed from .8 to .9 and while theres a settings migrator, it does not migrate a lot of things, and .9 has all new settings
[23:19] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: I JUST experienced an upgrade issue
[23:19] <Karen_m> Soothsayer, what?
[23:19] <Soothsayer> formatting my whole laptop because of it
[23:19] <truepurple> n3glv: Do I select mark for reinstallation?
[23:19] <Caly> ActionParsnip: how do i boot to root recovery mode?
[23:19] <computergeeksjw> ActionParsnip: what was the boot option again?
[23:19] <n3glv> truepurple: I think so
[23:19] <tjiggi_fo> Karen_m, try it on a live CD first
[23:19] <klunky999> anyone can help me about grub  with ubuntu and windows 7 please ?? im desesperate
[23:19] <Karen_m> 10.10 sucked for my laptop, it would not use my wireless properly!  I wonder if 11.04 will work :)
[23:19] <syn3rgy> ohsix I guess I just need some time. Seems not to long ago that anybody that was not lynx, bitchX etc was just "blinky" junk.
[23:19] <n3glv> truepurple: may want to browse your dir, see if you can find files that u want to save
[23:19] <Soothsayer> Karen_m: and plus, the download rate for the packages is really slow, so wait for a few days maybe?
[23:19] <Caly> Karen_m: he also had a problem
[23:19] <jon_gee> hey guys any of you experience this error during installation of new 11.04? "fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed""
[23:19] <n3glv> truepurple: but I think it should work
[23:20] <n3glv> jon_gee: ever see this , USER ASKING FOR HELP KEEPS ASKING SAME QUESTION OVER AND OVER?
[23:20]  * n3glv sheesh
[23:20] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_prn.html#MFC-6490CW is some .deb packages you could download. But there is also some brother-* packages in ubuntu's repositories but Im unsure which one fits your scanner/printer hm.
[23:20] <n3glv> BEGGING EVEN
[23:20] <stittel> Hi! If I try to install the package "nvidia-96" on 11.04, Synaptic wants to remove the X server. What's going wrong there?
[23:20] <ohsix> Rockj: re: usb devices showing up as storage, they often do that now, and the disk mode contains drivers, then the drivers tell it to switch to the actual device; linux does that too, but it needs to know about the device to switch its mode, usb-modeswitch has a database of them, but this new device may need adding
[23:20] <Caly> as did i, as did daniel
[23:20] <syn3rgy> n3glv what question is that?
[23:20] <cache_surplus> how can i tell if i have a 1.0 or 2.0 usb stick plugged in? whats the command
[23:21] <syn3rgy> n3glv what question is that =P
[23:21] <truepurple> n3glv: I did that, but it still doesn't seem to be installed, do I need to reload?
[23:21] <n3glv> his recursive thing
[23:21] <Kevin`> n3glv: probably need to give them a link to a 'how to ask good questions' page
[23:21] <klunky999> anyone can help me about grub  with ubuntu and windows 7 please ?? im desesperate
[23:21] <n3glv> truepurple: wondering if just the shortcut is missing
[23:21] <computergeeksjw> ActionParsnip: what was the boot option you suggested about module blacklist
[23:21] <ohsix> stittel: -96 uses the old server abi and nvidia said they're not going to be updating them, so it conflicts with the server with the new abi
[23:21] <klunky999> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38201/grub-problem-with-windows-7
[23:21] <Caly> klunky999: furmat c:
[23:21] <AaeRohn> Rockj: that's the printer driver I installed, there's also a scanner driver for my MFC, and both are installed, and it still doesnt work
[23:21] <Caly> halps with windws issues
[23:21] <klunky999> Caly: ... im looking for solutions... really ...
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> computergeeksjw: modulename.blacklist=1
[23:21] <KNUBBIG> Caly: be patient
[23:22] <Caly> hehe
[23:22] <truepurple> n3glv: Well when I try to add it to my panel, its not listed as a option
[23:22] <ActionParsnip> computergeeksjw: you can blacklist whatever you want
[23:22] <syn3rgy> klunky999 windows will over write grub. Use a VM or install it first
[23:22] <cache_surplus> wow this room is way to busy,,, l8
[23:22] <ohsix> AaeRohn: if it only shows up as a usb drive, it needs to be added to the modeswitch database so it can be told to act like the actual device
[23:22] <KNUBBIG> klunky999: just tell your problem and we'll se who can help you
[23:22] <AaeRohn> Rockj: printer works perfectly, scanner doesnt
[23:22] <Kevin`> klunky999: you want to fix grub after installing windows second?
[23:22] <stittel> ohsix: If it can't be made working, why is "nvidia-96" even available as a package? I mean, this is a fresh default installation without any additional repos.
[23:22] <n3glv> truepurple: if u know the app name u could try launching it from command line (terminal)
[23:23] <daniel_> would some one be bale to help me find out why my wifi wont work the 11.04 update after it was already working in 10.10
[23:23] <ohsix> stittel: it does work, it just conflicts with the only server api available, so yea ... heh
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: did you install the deb I gave?
[23:23] <klunky999> no, i had windows 7 installed, everything perfect, now i installed ubuntu 11.04 on a diferent partition, but same disk, ... when i log on grub now, i cant use windows, it just goes back to grub
[23:23] <AaeRohn> ohsix: do I still need to if it half-works? printer part of it works fine, the scanner part is what I'm having trouble with
[23:23] <n3glv> daniel_: may be missing a propriatary driver
[23:23] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: what is the output of:  sudo lshw -C network
[23:23] <syn3rgy> Oh SNAP one thing I hated with GDM (Gnome) was that I had to recompile it to work with Multiseating. Will Unity Multiseat??????
[23:23] <truepurple> n3glv: I wouldn't know how to do that, how do i search for a file?
[23:23] <ohsix> stittel: ask nvidia to support the new abi in older drivers, iirc they've already refused; you might have to live with an older release or nouveau
[23:23] <stittel> ohsix: What's the purpose of installing nvidia-96, when I don't have an X server after that? :)
[23:23] <n3glv> truepurple: ask google about a program called 'slocate'
[23:23] <Kevin`> klunky999: what's the entry for windows?
[23:24] <klunky999> how i check that Kevin`  ?
[23:24] <Caly> ActionParsnip: how do i boot to root recovery mode?
[23:24] <n3glv> it can search the hard drive for a file name
[23:24] <Kevin`> klunky999: pastebin it since it's probably a few lines
[23:24] <Rockj> AaeRohn: so only scanner doesn't work?  Are you in the scanner group?    Check by typing   "groups <your_username>" in the termianl to check your groups.
[23:24] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: I've had both printer and scanner drivers installed for a few days now
[23:24] <tully-> perl -e '$_="aeC ya rnco acIfp ucae,sr s";$_.=$1,print$2while s/(..)(.)//;' |sed 's/,/\n/
[23:24] <stittel> ohsix: Well, I can understand why it's not supported anymore. But in that case there should be no nvidia-96 package in the repos.
[23:24] <Kevin`> klunky999: /boot/grub/grub.cfg, or is it .conf
[23:24] <klunky999> ok
[23:24] <ohsix> stittel: good question, but that's the conflict on the package, has been for a long time; there just hasn't been a new server until natty
[23:24] <klunky999> just a min man
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> Caly: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode, select root
[23:24] <Kevin`> klunky999: oh, and did you delete a small useless looking windows boot partition when you installed ubuntu?
[23:24] <daniel_> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601015/
[23:24] <Rockj> AaeRohn: sudo adduser <your_username> scanner    should put you in the scanner group at least, that might give you the correct/enough permissions for the scanner program to detect your device maybe?
[23:24] <coolkid25> Can somebody please tell me how to fix Ubuntu?
[23:24] <ohsix> stittel: you could probably report a bug and have it removed for natty
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: tried a few scanning apps?
[23:25] <KNUBBIG> coolkid25: what's your problem?
[23:25] <tully-> coolkid25, might help if you said the problem
[23:25] <AaeRohn> Rockj: checked, and nothing says scanner or printer... I am the only user on this computer
[23:25] <klunky999> Kevin`:  no i choosed the option run windows 7 with ubuntu together
[23:25] <ohsix> AaeRohn: ah no idea, i was reading into it something you hadn't said; my bad
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> daniel_: sudo lshw -C network     the C is capitalized
[23:25] <ninjai> i cant remember where i changed this before... but i need to remap F10 (as it pulls down menus from sys tray), where can i do this?
[23:25] <[snake]> Can I use different languages (in this case hebrew, which must go right to left) in the terminal?
[23:25] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: I've tried Simple Scan, Xsane Image Scanner, and GIMP
[23:25] <stittel> ohsix: Well, thanks anyways.
[23:25] <truepurple> n3glv: So ubuntu doesn't come with a file search option?
[23:25] <coolkid25> tully-: Ubuntu won't boot, when I choose ubuntu in the boot menu, all I get is some kind of GRUB command prompt.
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> AaeRohn: hmm, are there any bugs logged?
[23:25] <n3glv> truepurple: u need to do updatedb first
[23:26] <ohsix> Rockj: udev/consolekit should already be applying the correct permissions to those things without him needing to be put in some group
[23:26] <n3glv> truepurple: then locate tomboy
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> Hello, anyone know what packages I need to use a dvd?
[23:26] <tully-> coolkid25, you do an update, fresh install, any recent changes?
[23:26] <Rockj> ohsix: I'm sure how you fix setting devices in correct usb-mode tho :/  Always got it fixed by either fixiing permissions to the device/being in correct group or getting the correct debian package which contains neccery drivers.
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> I have dwd+rw-tools
[23:26] <AaeRohn> Rockj: no scanner group
[23:26] <ohsix> stittel: sorry theres no good news, does nouveau not work for you? it's getting a lot of attention with this release and should start improving even faster
[23:26] <n3glv> arch_is_awesome: k3b is cool
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> I tried to install libdvdcss but it is not there.
[23:26] <di0x> arch_is_awesome, libdvdcss2
[23:26] <arch_is_awesome> ahh
[23:26] <truepurple> n3glv: What is "updatedb"? So ubuntu doesn't come with a file search program?
[23:26] <AaeRohn> ActionParsnip: only in the Xsane, "Invalid arguement"
[23:26] <Kevin`> [snake]: normally yes, but files are named what they are named, it could be.. interesting
[23:26] <Rockj> AaeRohn: hm, ohsix says that should be fixed automagically at booting if things are setup propertly. hm.
[23:26] <klunky999> here it is Kevin`
[23:26] <klunky999> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601023/
[23:26] <ohsix> arch_is_awesome: run /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[23:27] <_Geri_> hi
[23:27] <daniel_> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601024/
[23:27] <_Geri_> is something app-store like thingie in ubuntu, where i can sell softwares?
[23:27] <arch_is_awesome> Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[23:27] <Rockj> ohsix: wouldn't hurt for him to try  a "sudo adduser <his_username> scanner" ?
[23:27] <makaveli0129> ok my trash can says it's full but everytime i try to empty it my system slows way way down i tried from command line using rm -rf ~/.Trash/ and that completes with no error any idea on how to empty trash?
[23:27] <stittel> ohsix: It's marked as "highly experimental" and this is for a computer that will go to clueless people in another country without me being available for support. :)
[23:27] <n3glv> truepurple: the slocate app needs to be installed
[23:27] <Caly> ActionParsnip: ok, so i choose root - Drop to root shell prompt?
[23:27] <coolkid25> tully-: I upgraded Ubuntu last night to 10.10, and it worked fine then, and this morning.
[23:27] <tully-> upgrade to 10.10 or 11.04 because thats the one that just came out
[23:28] <AaeRohn> Rockj: as I ad, it's been a few days with these drivers and MFC
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> ohsix: Thank you so much.
[23:28] <Caly> ActionParsnip: or netroot (...with networking"
[23:28] <AaeRohn> as I said*
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> ohsix: Did it add medibuntu?
[23:28] <[snake]> Kevin`, I see what you mean... I found a multi-lingual terminal, but it is too simple and I don't know how to make it left to right.
[23:28] <ohsix> arch_is_awesome: no, it just grabbed one package from it
[23:28] <guntbert> !trash | makaveli0129
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> Goodf
[23:28] <arch_is_awesome> *Good
[23:28] <demlasjr> hey guys does anybody have idea why my pc's screen is turning black or orange each 10-15 minutes ?
[23:28] <demlasjr> :(
[23:29] <coolkid25> tully-: I am on 10.10.
[23:29] <Caly> tully-: uptadating to 11.04 seems to be why this chan is now super active... many get tehir sysstem fucked up by it..
[23:29] <ohsix> demlasjr: intel or nvidia?
[23:29] <n3glv> demlasjr: power settings or screen save?
[23:29] <guntbert> makaveli0129: it seems they move it around a little :-))
[23:29] <n3glv> demlasjr: sleep mode?
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> Caly: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[23:29] <Kevin`> klunky999: show the output of fdisk -l
[23:29] <Kevin`> klunky999: actually there seems to be a bug there, or someone changed it, since it doesn't have the partition numbers..
[23:29] <Kevin`> klunky999: oh right, nevermind
[23:29] <tully-> Caly, many dont do it right either
[23:29] <demlasjr> ATI ohsix
[23:29] <demlasjr> no....working on it..
[23:29] <[snake]> Kevin`, I meant right to left :P
[23:29] <Vanillalite> Can anyone else get chrome/ium to stay as the default browser or is this a known bug?
[23:29] <superlou> Has anyone had trouble installing 11.04 AMD64 with nvidia.  Freezes on something about nvidia_current that seems to have been fixed a while back.  I can install "successfully" by telling ubuntu to skip before it gets to that part of configuration, but I'm not sure exactly what gets skipped and if I'll regret that later.
[23:29] <klunky999> Kevin`:  what u want me to do ?
[23:29] <demlasjr> is freezing in black or orange
[23:29] <makaveli0129> guntbert: so can i just rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash$
[23:29] <demlasjr> need to restart from the button
[23:29] <aj00200> Are there any customizations which can be applied to the launcher such as size or having them "tilt" backwards at the top and bottom?
[23:30] <[snake]> Wow... I can't even tell my left and right without thinking about it... this is a sad day.
[23:30] <Caly> tully-: a popup askes yo "do you want to update to the latest version bla bla.. "   one press "OK" and that is wron?
[23:30] <Caly> *wrong
[23:30] <Cream2011> Ive been trying to install Ubuntu 10.10 off my usb drive, however when I go through the installation process it gets to the point where it asks me for my computer name, password, etc and finishes installing to where it says "Ready when you are" in the progress bar.  When I get to this point, it doesnt allow me to click the "Forward" button =/  I already deleted my crappy windows 7, and now the only way I can use my netbook is t
[23:30] <coolkid25> tully-: are you there?
[23:30] <guntbert> makaveli0129: I suggest you first look what is there: ls -l ~/.local/share/Trash  (no $ !)
[23:30] <aj00200> Cream2011: your message got cut off at "my netbook is t"
[23:31] <guntbert> makaveli0129: and then your command (without $) will be fine
[23:31] <Cream2011> through my flash drive
[23:31] <Kevin`> klunky999: fdisk -l
[23:31] <Cream2011> help
[23:31] <Cream2011> lol
[23:31] <demlasjr> so I guess no idea :)
[23:31] <alteregoa> hello mr ubuntu
[23:31] <makaveli0129> ~/.local/share/Trash$
[23:31] <guntbert> !enter | Cream2011
[23:31] <klunky999> Kevin`:  dont show nothin
[23:31] <makaveli0129> expunged  files  info
[23:31] <Kevin`> klunky999: as root, or with sudo
[23:31] <alteregoa> how long does it take to update from maverick to narwhale?
[23:31] <giampaolo> am I the only one who just HATES the new gui and switched back to classical them after a couple of hours?
[23:31] <makaveli0129> is the files listed in there
[23:31] <Rockj> AaeRohn: Im plugging in my scanner here to check some command line tools.      are you able to type   "sane-find-scanner" in your terminal? does it detect any scanners?
[23:31] <guntbert> !pastebin | makaveli0129
[23:31] <klunky999> Kevin`:  sorry im noob :)
[23:32] <shane4ubuntu1> anyone know of a good timer for ubuntu?  I used to use the tea timer on the panel, but well, that no longer exist with unity any timely timer tips??  :)
[23:32] <tully-> coolkid25, no
[23:32] <cannonball> My 10.10 -> 11.04 upgrade went very well.  However, for some reason, my rhythmbox only sees two of the 10 or so RSS feeds that I have.  Has anybody come up against something similar?  I suspect something in ~/.local/share/rhythmbox/rhythmdb.xml is corrupted, but it _looks_ fine to me.
[23:32] <alteregoa> how long is the update? 1hour?
[23:32] <klunky999> Kevin`:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/601029/
[23:32] <coolkid25> Can somebody help me fix Ubuntu? It won't boot right, when I select it in the boot menu, all I get is some kind of GRUB terminal.
[23:32] <aj00200> Cream2011: does the "try" feature work on the Live CD?
[23:32] <Guest11028> i updated with no problems
[23:33] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: depends on many things, very bad to predict
[23:33] <Cream2011> Its a netbook, I dont have a cd.
[23:33] <AaeRohn> rockj: it detected
[23:33] <Cream2011> but yes
[23:33] <alteregoa> i didnt install that much
[23:33] <alteregoa> a relative clean ubuntu
[23:33] <aj00200> coolkid25: does it give some type of error code that you could look up?
[23:33] <Rockj> AaeRohn: interesting, could you pastebin the results for me in a pastebin?
[23:33] <guntbert> makaveli0129: ah there are folders, so ls -lR ~/.local/share/Trash
[23:33] <Cream2011> I am using the "try feature" on my usb drive.
[23:33] <demlasjr> repeat: each 20 minutes my laptop screen is turning black or orange, especially when the CPU is more solicited (around 70%-90%). The only way I can start or fix it is to restart the whole pc...it's frustrating :|  Video card: ATI Radeon with the drivers installed, Ubuntu: 11.04
[23:33] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: also depends on the load of the server, your internet connection, your hdd speed and your CPU speed
[23:33] <coolkid25> nott anymore aj00200
[23:33] <daniel_> woul anyone know why my internet isnt working it worked before i updated and it isnt evan showing the led wifi light on evan if i toggle fn + F2 i looked at available drivers and it says the wirless one is being used idk how that it since i dont have wifi
[23:33] <truepurple> n3glv: You still there?
[23:33] <Kevin`> klunky999: looks like that entry should work, since it's what the mbr would normally do
[23:33] <coolkid25> now i just have a terminal
[23:33] <coolkid25> a grub terminal.
[23:33] <alteregoa> well my hdd speed is 7200 rpm
[23:34] <tully-> demlasjr, update to manufacturers driver
[23:34] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:34] <tully-> drivers*
[23:34] <mdmkolbe> In Unity the panel at the top (i.e. the thing holding the ubuntu button, the app menu and the indicators), keeps disappearing and leaving behind a black area of the screen whenever I start tweaking settings (e.g. in CCSM).  It remains that way until I restart.  Is there a better way than restarting the machine to get it back (e.g. restart or give a kick to some "panel" process)?
[23:34] <karth> anyone know how to disable compiz font scaling?
[23:34] <alteregoa> and the cpu speed is aprox 300'000 miles per second
[23:34] <aj00200> coolkid25: if you restart to you get an error code again? This is key to debugging it
[23:34] <Caly> ActionParsnip: well, i wasnt looking to fix my wifi, i was looking to reverse the 11.04 upgrade that fucked up my boot, i don't get to GUI..
[23:34] <alteregoa> or km/s
[23:34] <AaeRohn> rockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601030/
[23:34] <Kevin`> klunky999: I don't suppose you can run the two commands in the file in grub and say what it gives back
[23:34] <klunky999> Kevin`:  but dont, i just click windows 7 to load up and ig ends again in grub manager ...
[23:34] <dibs> I need help, can't upgrade   :E:Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages.
[23:34] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: cool so you got some kind of light processor? would be km, then
[23:35] <Kevin`> klunky999: that's why I want you to type it in, so it doesn't return
[23:35] <Kevin`> klunky999: although it would normally show something anyway, you might me missing it
[23:35] <NickUK`> Yo - I'm currently having an issue when booting into my Ubuntu 11.04 USB - The screen just goes all fuzzy like static but still static.
[23:35] <klunky999> ok so what i do ?
[23:35] <truepurple> Doesn't synaptic package manager know where the files of the programs it lists are? Is it possible to use synaptic package manager to find the files of the programs it lists?
[23:35] <klunky999> Kevin`:  ok so what i do ?
[23:36] <Rockj> AaeRohn: while I read some documentation, try this while waiting for the **** of it:     sudo adduser <username_on_your_pc> scanner             then logout and login again so it starts a new session.(reboot shouldnt be needed afaik aslong as you restart the session) See if xsane detects your scanner then.
[23:36] <work> olá boa noite
[23:36] <KNUBBIG> alteregoa: I can just tell you that the simple installation of the packages took 3 hours on my laptop and one hour one my desktop, you have to add download time
[23:36] <makaveli0129> gunbert: i just did rm -rf files from that directory
[23:36] <coolkid25> aj00200: nope
[23:36] <dibs> Is this where to get help?
[23:36] <bobopolos> hi
[23:36] <guntbert> !pt | work
[23:36] <demlasjr> I'm trying now -tully, ty !
[23:36] <guntbert> !tab | makaveli0129
[23:37] <klunky999> Kevin`:  just tell me what to try and i do it
[23:37] <Kevin`> klunky999: press c, then enter the lines it shows for windows starting at insmod. you don't need to enter the uuid one if you don't want, since it's annoying
[23:37] <guntbert> makaveli0129: and, are you satisfied with the result?
[23:37] <AaeRohn> rockj: there is no scanner group
[23:37] <truepurple> Doesn't synaptic package manager know where the files of the programs it lists are? Is it possible to use synaptic package manager to find the files of the programs it lists?
[23:37] <aj00200> coolkid25: hmm, I'm not sure where to go from here if you don't have an error code. You may have to reinstall
[23:37] <Rockj> AaeRohn: actually,   try   scanimage -L    in the terminal .
[23:37] <Kevin`> klunky999: normally i'd do that in kvm so you can get a screenshot, but that's not easy to explain
[23:37] <klunky999> Kevin`:  but you mean when i load grub ?
[23:37] <Acriax> I was playing around with compiz and somehow managed to disable the top bar and all gui elements except the icons on the screen when in Unity mode. Many keyborard-shortcuts don't work either, like bringing up the console. Help me, how can I fix this?
[23:37] <Rockj> AaeRohn: brb, plugging in my scanner, easier to help you figure out of the stuff then ;)
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: the package system knows, yes
[23:38] <KNUBBIG> Acriax: try booting into classic ubuntu and reset everything to default in the compizconfig-settings-manager
[23:38] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: So how do I use it to take me to said files?
[23:38] <NickUK`>  I'm currently having an issue when booting into my Ubuntu 11.04 USB - The screen just goes all fuzzy like static but still static.
[23:38] <Acriax> KNUBBIG good idea
[23:38] <bobopolos> I've been trying to bridge wlan0 and eth0, i follow steps found, ifconfig, route -n, and brctl show display reasonable results, but i cant ping anything on the eth0 side of the bridge. any advice? should i temporarily disable "network manager" or some other service that may be interfering?
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: do you want to know what files are in a package?
[23:38] <daniel_> woul anyone know why my internet isnt working it worked before i updated and it isnt evan showing the led wifi light on evan if i toggle fn + F2 i looked at available drivers and it says the wirless one is being used idk how that it since i dont have wifi
[23:38] <ForeverDrunk> How come there is no curl php5 package?
[23:38] <Kevin`> klunky999: yes when at the grub menu
[23:38] <AaeRohn> Rockj: it says: device `brother3:bus7;dev1' is a Brother MFC-6490CW USB scanner
[23:39] <jdsbluedevl> hi, just installed Natty, noticing that the Unity desktop is not functional at all
[23:39] <joepa> is it possible to remove the mail icon in the natty/unity system tray?
[23:39] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: No, I want to locate tomboy notes since its missing from my panel, and missing as a option to add to my panel
[23:39] <jdsbluedevl> it flashes my icons for a second, then goes blank
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: then run:  which tomboy
[23:40] <igitihi> hi there! I'm trying to restore my mbr (dual boot with xp). Can anybody help please?
[23:40] <coolkid25> aj00200: but i will lose all of my data! cant i just do a command in the terminal to see what is wrong?
[23:40] <Cream2011> Anyone know why, for some reason, the installation of ubuntu Netbook 10.10 Rmx wont complete for me? I've tried using it from a pen drive and from an external HD, both arent allowing me to complete installation at the same point.
[23:40] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Do what now?
[23:40] <bizerklurker> Every time I login, I get the same default icons despite removing them and adding new ones ( by right-clicking on apps like skype and pressing "keep in launcher.") I hope I have explained my problem thoroughly - I am a ubuntun00b. Is this just a bug, is it fixable, or am I missing something here?
[23:40] <Rockj> AaeRohn: try   scanimage -x 100 -y 100 --format=tiff >image.tiff
[23:40] <aj00200> coolkid25: sorry, I am not familiar with the terminal. Maybe try using a live CD to copy your files to an external source or even Ubuntu One if you have enough space on it and then restore them after a resinstall
[23:40] <timholum> hello, does anyone know of a way to change how the search menu operates in 11.04? I would like it where if I type \\192.168.1.50 it smb connects to 192.168.1.50
[23:40] <Rockj> AaeRohn: just checking if it's able to scan anything.
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: run the command in terminal and it will tell you what binary is ran when you run tomboy
[23:41] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What command?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: the command is:  which tomboy
[23:41] <dibs> I can't get past setting new software channels when trying to upgrade to natty. Help??
[23:41] <ohsix> timholum: did you try smb://192.168.1.50/ ?
[23:41] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Can you help me with the GRUB terminal?
[23:41] <AaeRohn> Rockj: scanimage: open of device brother3:bus7;dev1 failed: Invalid argument
[23:41] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:42] <dark-matter> I updated to 11.04 and my nvidia driver on my dell d630 won't work.  I can get command line, but no GUI
[23:42] <dark-matter> anyone have ideas?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> dibs: can you give the output of: sudo do-release-upgrade
[23:42] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: All it says is "/usr/bin/tomboy"
[23:42] <jdsbluedevl> anyone else have problems with the Unity desktop?
[23:42] <_jam> so, the intel wireless N bug that affected maverick and claims to be fixed is not fixed
[23:42] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:42] <Caly> dark-matter: welcome to my world...
[23:42] <timholum> ohsix: yup, it opens firefox to http://smb://192.168.1.50
[23:42] <Caly> same here
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> dark-matter: uninstall the nvidia driver, boot then reinstall the driver then reboot
[23:42] <dark-matter> Caly: NOO!!!!!
[23:42] <dark-matter> :)
[23:42] <dibs> ActionParsnip: will try thanks
[23:43] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:43] <stravant> I upgraded and in the new UI none of my windows have menus. Like, the menu underneath the window title in the window frame, what's that menu called? I'm looking for a solution but I don't know what it's called.
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: then thats the binary, is that not what you wanted?
[23:43] <dark-matter> ActionParsnip: ok
[23:43] <ohsix> timholum: nice; haha, well i don't have much to add sorry, that format uri would work in nautilus
[23:43] <dark-matter> Caly: did that work?
[23:43] <Caly> what?
[23:43] <relik> hello
[23:43] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: The binary?
[23:43] <lollab> hello, I have HP elitebook 8440p and I would like to enable fingerpint scanner for sudo privlige, any help?
[23:43] <dark-matter> Caly: what ActionParsnip suggested
[23:43] <Caly> i'm here on my other computer running Trisquel to get help with that same problem
[23:43] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:43] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What do you mean by binary?
[23:43] <Caly> dark-matter: not so far
[23:43] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:43] <coolkid25> Can somebody help me fix Ubuntu? It won't boot right, when I select it in the boot menu, all I get is some kind of GRUB terminal.
[23:43] <relik> when i try to do "ls *.mpg" i get this error message: ls: invalid option -- ' '
[23:43] <timholum> ohsix: ya, I am assuming the program to search is written in python, I just have to find where to write a patch
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: yes the binary is the actual file executed when you run the command
[23:44] <relik> any idea what causes this?
[23:44] <work> hi, how disable touch screen in ubuntu 11.04?
[23:44] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Can you please help me? I heard you are the best.
[23:44] <Rockj> AaeRohn: checking stuff here, trying to figure out how to communicate with my scanner on the commmand line.
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: hardly
[23:44] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:45] <coolkid25> The best, and humble.
[23:45] <coolkid25> Amazing.
[23:45] <relik> why does ls *.avi works but ls *.mpg does not on Ubuntu?
[23:45] <tully-> bizerklurker, change the default settings
[23:45] <KNUBBIG> Acriax: if you're still having troubles, try http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/how-to-reset-unity-launcher-icons-or.html
[23:45] <work> hi, how disable touch screen in ubuntu 11.04?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> relik: check case
[23:45] <xangua> relik: installed codecs¿
[23:45] <xangua> work: don't touch the screen¿
[23:45] <kwtm> relik: What does "ls *.mpg" do on your system, and what do you expect it to do?
[23:45] <aj00200> relik: you might want to check that your files are not called *.MPG (note the case) or *.mpeg
[23:45] <relik> kwtm: show me files with mpg
[23:46] <relik> aj00200: i get an error message when i do ls *.mpg
[23:46] <kwtm> relik: Ahh, I see your line from above.  Almost missed it.
[23:46] <relik> thats the problem
[23:46] <Acriax> KNUBBIG okay, I will try that next. Resetting the compiz settings didn't help
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: if you boot to livecd, chroot to the installed OS and manipulate grub
[23:46] <lollab> I forgot to say, fprint does't see any device,
[23:46] <Cream2011> I cant complete installation from my usb drive :(
[23:46] <ojii> hi everyone
[23:46] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601034/
[23:46] <kwtm> relik: Okay, you should not type  "ls - "
[23:46] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Does ubuntu not have a built in feature for finding a file on either ones hard drive, or the page they are lookng at?
[23:46] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Where do I get a live CD?
[23:46] <relik> kwtm: i know
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> relik: try:   ls | grep -i ".mpg"   ,ay work
[23:46] <xangua> coolkid25: ubuntu.com
[23:46] <coz_> !ubuntu
[23:46] <relik> just ls *.mpg causes problems
[23:46] <ojii> for some reason the interface language in my login screen is in japanese, but after I login everything is in English (as it should be), how can I change/fix the language in my login screen?
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: its the CD you installed with
[23:47] <work> how disable touchscreen in ubuntu 11.04, is not wacom now?
[23:47] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:47] <kwtm> relik: However, if one of your files is named "- something.mpg", then   ls *.mpg   will turn into   ls -   something.mpg  which will generate that error.
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: there are search apps. I'm unclear as to what you are after
[23:47] <coz_> work,   wacom drivers are installed
[23:47] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: I installed 10.10 via ubuntu update manger
[23:47] <coolkid25> :x
[23:47] <coz_> work,  I dont have touch screen to see if it is wacom driving that
[23:47] <BrixSat> hello
[23:47] <ActionParsnip> work: if you unload the module driving it, it will cease to work
[23:48] <kwtm> relik: Type this instead:    find -name '*.mpg'     (don't forget those single quotes) and see if you have any funny filenames.
[23:48] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:48] <BrixSat> how do i install a prism isl3886 pci card on ubuntu?
[23:48] <arianit> anyone having their GDM randomly restarting on Natty with Unity
[23:48] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Something like windows search command, and/or like a browsers or text files find a particular word on this page command.
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: then download the ISO, MD5 test it then make a bootable USB or burn it to CD
[23:48] <igitihi> Is anybody able to help me restore my grub menu? I can't boot into Ubuntu anymore... Please, it's urgent!
[23:48] <bizerklurker> the question to answer ratio 10 : 1
[23:48] <coz_> bizerklurker,  are you right clicking an application icon when it appears in the launcher and  choosing to keep it in launcher?
[23:48] <coolkid25> after i burn it what do i do ActionParsnip ?
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: there are search apps like beagle
[23:48] <bizerklurker> coz, yes
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: boot to it
[23:49] <relik> hmmmm
[23:49] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Built into ubuntu?
[23:49] <demlasjr> related with the black screen...same problem even with the last driver :|
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> !info beagle | truepurple
[23:49] <relik> maybe its a feature but i consider that a bug
[23:49] <coz_> bizerklurker,   mm  that's odd, it should hold on to them... I am not on natty right now so I cant test
[23:49] <coolkid25> how would i do that ActionParsnip
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[23:49] <coolkid25> ?
[23:49] <KNUBBIG> man so many ppas with no natty versions, kinda annoying on apt-get update :)
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: boot to the cd you burn
[23:49] <kwtm> relik: For example, if someone decided to name a file "- This is such a great movie -".mpg  then you will have problems if you do not know enough about bash.
[23:49] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Doesn't ubuntu come with any of its own search functions?
[23:49] <coolkid25> but how? :x
[23:49] <bizerklurker> coz_, okay. thank you.
[23:49] <lightstep> hello
[23:49] <relik> kwtm: how can you wor around it?
[23:50] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: In the settings of the computer?
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: I believe nautilus has one.I always use the find command in CLI
[23:50] <lightstep> i installed ubuntu 11.04, and i want to use a chat program other than empathy
[23:50] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:50] <coz_> KNUBBIG,   I use  y-ppa-manager  it is helpful it only looks for ppas for the running ubuntu version
[23:50] <kwtm> relik: Well, you start with that find command I told you about.  What result did you get?
[23:50] <lightstep> is there a way to change the chat program in unity?
[23:50] <relik> kwtm: it works
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: how do you mean?
[23:50] <AaeRohn> Rockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601035/
[23:50] <relik> but it does not work for vlc
[23:50] <Dominater> !raid5
[23:50] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Where is it then?
[23:50] <relik> vlc .mpg
[23:50] <KNUBBIG> coz_: oh I have that installed too, but didn't know it had that function. Thanks!
[23:50] <lightstep> the one run when clicking "chat" on the letter-image menu?
[23:50] <work> what name drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:50] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:50] <kwtm> relik: <sigh> I know it works.  What does it say?  Are there any filenames that start with "-" or some other unexpected character?
[23:50] <Dominater> !raid
[23:50] <relik> kwtm: yes
[23:50] <kill3> Hmmm. What should I do when kernel panic. Im trying to install 11.04?
[23:51] <mdmkolbe> In Unity the panel at the top (i.e. the thing holding the ubuntu button, the app menu and the indicators), keeps disappearing and leaving behind a black area of the screen whenever I start tweaking settings (e.g. in CCSM).  It remains that way until I restart.  Is there a better way than restarting the machine to get it back (e.g. restart or give a kick to some "panel" process)?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: in nautilus, little magnifying glass icon...
[23:51] <Mahjongg> should I wait some more to upgrade to natty? production workstation here...
[23:51] <relik> there are some movies with weird characters in them
[23:51] <coz_> mdmkolbe,   ok  did you try restarting x?
[23:51] <work> what name drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:51] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Mahjongg: I'd wait a while then, wait for the early bugs to be knockedout
[23:51] <Mahjongg> ActionParsnip, like around a month's time?
[23:51] <Rockj> AaeRohn: scanimage -L  gives? mind pasting that line too? does it give you "brother3:bus7;dev1" as device?
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> work: if you run:  lsmod     what is output, use a pastebin to host the text
[23:52] <karth> Mahjongg: yeah, I'd give it a few weeks at the least
[23:52] <kwtm> relik: Okay, please try   ls ./*.mpg    which is actually the correct way to list it.
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> Mahjongg: sounds reasonable
[23:52] <mdmkolbe> coz_: no, but my guess is that log out and back in will also fix it.  I'd just like to avoid having to stop and restart all my apps.
[23:52] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Ok thanks, on to my next subject, getting a good ATI driver for my 6850, can you help?
[23:52] <Rockj> AaeRohn: try the same command again but put the brother3:bus7;dev1 in quotes like  "brother3:bus7;dev1" after -d argument.
[23:52] <DimaV> Hello. I just did an upgrad from 10.10 server to 11.04, but i screwed up grub/booting in the process. i have LVM on the system. can i get help restoring the boot? i have a live cd on hand.
[23:52] <bizerklurker> how do I get my launcher icons to stop reverting to default upon every login in unity?
[23:52] <Caly> dark-matter: yo, i got a half-solution at least...
[23:52] <kwtm> relik: Another way is   ls -- *mpg   for those who don't like the  ./*mpg
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: check the hardware app. I don't use ati chips
[23:52] <relik> ok
[23:52] <dark-matter> Caly: what did you do?
[23:53] <relik> i'll try
[23:53] <Caly> dark-matter: hold shift at boot, choos earlier linux version
[23:53] <coz_> mdmkolbe,   well if you restart x properly  with     ctrl+alt+F1,,, log in ,, then   sudo restart gdm    ,,, that would be the best way because it shuts down gnome  and apps properly
[23:53] <dark-matter> good suggestion
[23:53] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: I don't know what you mean by "check the hardware app"
[23:53] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: What would I do to boot to the CD? Just turn on my pc to it? Also, would I have to reinstall and lose all my data?
[23:53] <BrixSat> ow do i install a prism isl3886 pci card on ubuntu?
[23:53] <kwtm> relik: By the way, this is expected behaviour in bash.  While the novice may not expect it, it hardly counts as a bug.  Quite a number of things in bash would break if this were not the behaviour.
[23:53] <AaeRohn> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601037/
[23:53] <AaeRohn> rockj:http://paste.ubuntu.com/601037/
[23:53] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:53] <Caly> dark-matter: now it boots to GUI at least...
[23:53] <howard> Question about upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04: I have a 10.10 system, ran update manager and pressed the Upgrade button.  It gives me the Release Notes, and when I hit Upgrade again, it waits for a couple of seconds and then droppped me back to Update Manager.  My other laptop upgraded just fine.
[23:53] <Mahjongg> ActionParsnip, actually I recently upgraded to maverick from LTS, and I am punching the walls that I made that decision. LTS was perfect... Now I am having sleep probelms... Would natty be better with respect to sleep wake up stuff?
[23:53] <coz_> work,   I dont know,, exactly,,, it should be wacom but I am not sure
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: in system -> administration. Instead of asking almost immediately, try a little research so you find out maybe for yourself.You will be moreautonomous
[23:54] <coz_> if it is not wacom we are in trouble :)
[23:54] <lollab> anybody get this finger print scanner works on ubuntu ? HP 8440p Elitebook
[23:54] <karth> howard: had the same thing on a couple of boxes, retried 5-10 times, finally worked. the servers are pretty heavily loaded. :)
[23:54] <DimaV> anyone?
[23:54] <kwtm> relik: If it really bothers you, you can rename the files.  So you could say    mv "- this movie has a weird name -.mpg"  "Name_without_weird_characters.mpg"
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> Mahjongg: you fixed what wasn't broken. On production systems I would always use the LTS
[23:54] <daniel_> hello i cannot get my wifi to work for the life of me i push fn +f2 wont turn it on i hceck avaiable drivers shows that my wifi card is in use (evan htough i have no wifi) and i went to and made sure i had all the broadcom packages installed but still no luck in getting it to work evan though it worked before i updated
[23:54] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: The terminal says that no kernel is loaded, is there a command to fix thaf?
[23:54] <howard> karth: was there any diagnostic messages I can see?
[23:54] <Rockj> AaeRohn: you had this scanner working earlier did you? What version of ubuntu did you run then?
[23:54] <coz_> DimaV,   I didnt see your post to respond  sorry
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: you need the livecd which is what I was telling you before, remember
[23:54] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:55] <Mahjongg> ActionParsnip, I see. I'll probably go and install LTS again
[23:55] <dark-matter> wahoo failsafe graphics mode!!!
[23:55] <DimaV> coz_, I just did an upgrad from 10.10 server to 11.04, but i screwed up grub/booting in the process. i have LVM on the system. can i get help restoring the boot? i have a live cd on hand.
[23:55] <relik> ok
[23:55] <relik> thank
[23:55] <coz_> DimaV,  ah ok  hold on
[23:55] <relik> that solved the problem
[23:55] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: I have already done a bunch of research on this subject and what about system-> administration?
[23:55] <kwtm> relik: Now you know that ls * is wrong. :)
[23:55] <demlasjr> hey guys, related with the black screen: http://www.mailrepository.com/ubuntu-bugs.lists.ubuntu.com/msg/3662666/
[23:55] <aguitel> anyone try gnome3 in natty ?
[23:55] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:56] <demlasjr> is this solved or how much take to fix it....
[23:56] <bizerklurker> Can someone please answer my question?: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/154875
[23:56] <coolkid25> alright thanks ActionParsnip :D
[23:56] <demlasjr> or I need to go back to 10.10
[23:56] <coz_> DimaV, ooo the page I wanted to link you to is down ,, hold on
[23:56] <bencc> what package do I need to run a jar file on natty? I thought that libreoffice already require jre
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: sure but now you have new information
[23:56] <DimaV> coz_: holding on
[23:56] <AaeRohn> rockj: I didnt have Ubuntu before, my Win XP crashed and I had no disc, and no money... so I got Ubuntu and upgraded as much as I could...
[23:56] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What new info?
[23:56] <coz_> DimaV,  go to the #grub channel    they may have another link for reinstalling grub
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> bencc: http://www.multimediaboom.com/how-to-install-java-in-ubuntu-11-04-natty-narwhal-ppa/
[23:56] <KNUBBIG> bencc: either openjdk-jre or sun-java6-jre
[23:56] <KNUBBIG> !java > bencc
[23:56]  * DimaV goes
[23:57] <work> how uninstall drive touchscreen in 11.04?
[23:57] <Caly> dark-matter: did you get the seme popup as me then? GConf error: Failed to contact configuratio server...
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: about the hardware driver app:  23:53:56) ActionParsnip: truepurple: in system -> administration
[23:57] <christhecoolboy> I need Ubuntu help, since I have switched to Ubuntu 11.04, My Microphone no longer works...
[23:57] <AaeRohn> rockj: WinXP crashed and burned*
[23:57] <xangua> !java | bencc
[23:57] <bencc> thanks
[23:57] <karth> howard: not really, sometimes it flashed up a note about not being able to contact the server, other times, nothing.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> work: if you can give the output of the command I gave, I can advise
[23:57] <tomatobros> hey guys i just install 11.04 and i want to know is  "fglrx" in repo have tear free or i have to install from amd.com ?
[23:58] <demlasjr> any solution for this bug ? http://www.mailrepository.com/ubuntu-bugs.lists.ubuntu.com/msg/3662666/   BLACK SCREEN
[23:58] <Rockj> AaeRohn:  I see. Anyway, Ubuntu is a good choice anyway so lets see if we can figure this out ;-)
[23:58] <coz_> work,   open a termina.  type   gpoint-device-settings
[23:58] <coz_> work,   I believe there is a setting for  "touchfreeze" in there
[23:58] <dark-matter> Caly: Not yet
[23:58] <coz_> brb   nature call :)
[23:58] <dark-matter> Caly: it is still loading
[23:58] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What about system adminstration?
[23:58] <Caly> ok
[23:58] <AaeRohn> Rockj: I'll be back, I have to run something around the block
[23:58] <zero_> If I wana run perl script as service . how to do it ? I mean I have a vps which runs ubuntu server and I want to run a perl script without stoping even tho I exit from the terminal session
[23:59] <KNUBBIG> tomatobros: you should enable the proprietary drivers in the hardware admin section and then it should download it without you requiring to get it from amd.com but
[23:59] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/brother-mfc-240c-intermittent-scanning-issue-632801/   , looks like someone else have had this invalid argument thing popping up on your type of scanners. Try turn your scanner off and on again and see if it gives a better result.
[23:59] <KNUBBIG> !ati > tomatobros
[23:59] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: in that menu there is an application to install 3rd party drivers
[23:59] <dark-matter> It is frozen loading at: Checking Battery State
[23:59] <Cream2011> Anyone know why I cant complete installation for 10.10 on my Netbook?
[23:59] <ojii> for some reason the interface language in my login screen is in japanese, but after I login everything is in English (as it should be), how can I change/fix the language in my login screen?
[23:59] <tripelb> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-vHrS4s14Q  Feels good to admit it.
[23:59] <christhecoolboy> Since I have updated to 11.04, my Microphone no longer works... How could I fix this?!
[23:59] <bizerklurker> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/154875
[23:59] <howard> karth: thanks for the info.  I'm glad that I am not the only one.
[23:59] <dark-matter> but i can do alt+f1 to get to a prompt
[23:59] <work> What command ActionParsnip?
[23:59] <bizerklurker> can someone please answer my question https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/154875
[23:59] <tomatobros> KNUBBIG,  thx
[23:59] <Caly> dark-matter: mkay, you said failsafe? i choose to "boot woth earlier linux version"