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Mahjongghello, how can I record some audio that is already playing on my system?00:52
orngjce223Fire up JaCK and patch system into system? I dunno00:54
holsteinMahjongg: what audio?00:56
Mahjonggholstein, google translate pronounciation...00:56
holsteinif its from the internet, i suggest asking the creator for a digital copy00:56
holsteinhmmm00:56
MahjonggI just need one word pronounced, and do not think they'll bother at all00:57
holsteinMahjongg: i would just fire up gnome-recorder00:57
holsteinor whatever it it00:57
holsteinsound recorder?00:57
holsteinsomething easy00:57
Mahjongggnome-sound-recorder? tried it with no luck00:57
holsteinMahjongg: ?00:57
holsteinwhat was the result?00:57
holsteinyou heard the audio00:58
holsteinpushed record00:58
MahjonggI heard but recorder did not record anything00:58
holsteinand nothing got recorded?00:58
holsteinOK00:58
holsteinopen a terminal00:58
holsteinand run00:58
holsteinalsamixer00:58
Mahjonggyep00:58
holsteinhit F500:58
holsteinand see what you have there00:58
holsteini would get something playing00:58
holsteinand hit record00:59
holsteinand come over there and tweak00:59
holsteinOR00:59
holsteinget a little cable00:59
holsteinand go from the headphone out to the input ;)00:59
Mahjonggholstein, I would prefer not blow anything in my laptop, if possible :)01:00
Mahjonggholstein, come over to alsa mixer and tweak... can you a bit more specific at that point?01:01
MahjonggI have like 8 channels when I hit f501:01
Mahjonggall seems to be at highest01:01
Mahjongg91/91 85/85, etc...01:02
Mahjonggexcept SPDIF ones01:02
Mahjonggthere are two of them01:02
holsteinMahjongg: well, no01:02
holsteinsince all the label can be incorrect01:02
holsteinyou really just have to tweak01:02
holsteineverything01:03
holsteinyou should do it carefully*01:03
Mahjonggjust play with levels and see if something gets recorded, right?01:03
holsteinyeah01:03
Mahjonggcarefully?01:03
holsteinyeah01:03
holsteinif you're worried about blowing something01:03
holsteinwhich is not likely01:03
holsteinsince we *should* be adjusting capture levels01:04
holsteinnot output levels01:04
holsteindont waste too much time there01:04
holsteintheres a pulse package you can try too01:04
Mahjonggholstein, pulseaudio-module-xx01:06
Mahjongg?01:06
holsteinnah01:06
Mahjonggpulseaudio-utils?01:07
holsteinpavucontrol01:07
holsteinsudo apt-get install pavucontrol01:07
holsteinthat'll be pulse audio volume control01:07
holsteinif that doest work, i would literally get a cable01:08
holsteinand plug it from the headphone out01:08
holsteinto the line in01:08
Mahjonggholstein, installed pavucontrol fine, it is working, but not very sure how to attack it...01:10
MahjonggI can enable disable audio coming from chromium01:10
MahjonggI can change chromium audio's right left balance01:11
holsteinprobably01:14
holsteinMahjongg: is it recording the audio?01:14
Mahjonggit records the audio that mic heards from the speakers...01:14
Mahjongghears...01:14
holsteinwell, thats a start01:14
holsteinyou have to change the source01:15
holsteinyou have it set to internal mic01:15
holsteinyou can get the cable i keep mentioning01:15
holsteinand select line in01:15
holsteinOR, you need to somehow select the mix01:15
holstein*whats playing01:15
Mahjonggwhere do I change the source? input devices?01:15
holsteinMahjongg: try that01:15
Mahjonggthere I have two items... monitor of internal audio analog stereo01:16
Mahjonggand01:16
Mahjongginternal audio analog stereo01:16
Mahjonggsecond hears me typing...01:16
Mahjonggfirst is disabled01:16
orngjce223Hmm.01:17
orngjce223Is it possible to enable the first?01:17
* orngjce223 idly muses on how this'd be so much easier with a genuine patchbay01:17
Mahjonggon the condifuration tab I have these:01:18
Mahjonggunder internal audio:01:18
Mahjongganalog stereo duplec01:18
Mahjongganalog stereo output01:19
holsteinwith these things01:19
Mahjonggdigital stereo iec958 output+analog stereo input01:19
holsteinyou usually just have to try them all01:19
holsteinand fiddle with them01:19
holsteinsince the settings are hardware specific01:19
holsteinand dont have to be labled properly01:19
holsteinMahjongg: do you have a cable?01:20
Mahjongghmm I wish I remembered the original configuration :/01:20
holsteina little 1/8th inch trs cable?01:20
MahjonggI already played with them :)01:20
MahjonggI have a cable in my car yes01:20
holsteinjust plug that in01:20
holsteinand select the line in as the source01:20
holsteinand that'll work01:20
Mahjonggregular headphone jack on both ends01:20
holsteinright01:20
holsteinthats the one01:20
orngjce223I have many broken cheap headphones and am considering just soldering one of those together for my own use.01:22
holsteinif the wire works like that01:22
holsteinsometimes, its so cheap, you cant solder it01:23
Mahjonggholstein, thanks so much! actually it worked right as you suggested...01:24
Mahjonggeven before the cable...01:24
holsteinMahjongg: :)01:24
holsteinthats even better*01:24
MahjonggI cahnged the configuration to one of them and it started recording inner audio01:24
holsteinthe cable is a bit of a work around01:24
orngjce223Cool.01:25
Mahjonggthanks again, bye01:34
kjxl9hello03:31
holsteino/03:32
kjxl9im new to ubuntu and was wondering, will my VSTs from FL studio work on rosegarden?03:32
holsteinnot sure03:32
holsteinbut03:32
holsteinwith JACK03:32
holsteinyou wont be limited to RG03:32
kjxl9???03:32
holsteinIF your vst's work03:33
holsteinthey just work03:33
holsteinwith whatever you want to use them with03:33
holsteinardour03:33
holsteinRG03:33
holsteinqtractor03:33
holsteinwhatever...03:33
holsteinbut, finding out if they work can be challenging03:33
holsteinsince most people on out end really cant do anything about it03:33
holsteinand the guys that made them dont care03:34
kjxl9well thanks for the info, cya03:34
holsteinyou can try..03:34
holstein#kxstudio03:34
kjxl9ok03:34
holsteinthose guys use a lot of vst03:34
holsteinwindows vst's03:34
holsteinyou can hang out there for a while and ask03:34
tucemiuxanyone upgraded yet?  the start up animation was changed, it's awesome!  my laptop starts up even faster than ever!  It looks awesome!  Hopefully every other ubuntu based distro looks the same but my laptops rocks!!!04:29
holsteinmy studio machine is still running 10.0404:34
holsteini saw that plymouth screenshot though04:36
holsteinthats looks sweet :)04:36
tucemiuxok well first I use my laptop to test -- it's the one I use most and dont have data on it either way04:36
tucemiuxand as soon as I found out 11.04 was released I went and started the upgrade this morning, 14 hours later my laptop is upgraded!04:37
holsteinyeah04:37
holsteinthe upgrades take a long time04:37
tucemiuxeverything is up and running just fine, problem is root now is used up 84%, I only have 1.5G left on that partition :-(04:38
tucemiuxI might have to erase my home directory go give root more space then create a home directory again and put it on my fstab and hope it works o.O04:39
ScottLyay, distrowatch finally reported that ubuntu studio was released04:45
tucemiuxha ha ha04:45
ScottLdoh, wrong channel04:45
holsteinw00t:)04:45
tucemiuxScottL, i think youre in the right channel, actually04:46
tucemiuxif im not mistaken o.O04:46
tucemiuxubuntustudio is ranked 50 on distrowatch o.O04:47
holsteincool04:47
tucemiuxholstein, you have got to stop using your mac04:47
tucemiuxor at least use it less04:48
holsteinmy girlfriend uses it04:48
holsteinlots of folk use ubuntu04:48
holsteinwith whatever audio packages added04:48
holsteini only have one actual ubuntustudio install04:48
holsteinin the house04:48
tucemiuxok well i dont know what ubuntu or anything else looks like but ubuntustudio now looks ***PERFECT*** on my laptop04:49
holsteinthats great :)04:49
tucemiuxi used to complain that the icons were a bit too big but now they look perfect, I only have one bar windows style with the default ubuntustudio settings04:49
tucemiuxand not only the fonts and icons looks the right size but also the brightness looks awesome and firefox seems to work faster but maybe it's just me04:51
holsteinFF4 is fast04:51
holsteinive been running it occasionally04:51
tucemiuxyoure going to upgrade your ubuntustudio?  i cant unity on my laptop but it's all good, im going to keep using this for some time before I upgrade my desktop04:53
holsteinthat particular ubuntustudio install is 10.0404:54
holsteinand thats where it will stay04:54
holsteini have a test machine though04:54
holsteinthat i'll put 11.10 on04:54
holsteinwhenever it comes out04:54
holsteinto test whatever04:54
tucemiuxok well you should try ubuntustudio on a virtual machine, at least, you wont be disappointed -- what do you use nowadays anyway? just cucirous04:56
tucemiux**curious**04:56
holsteinwell, i have the ubuntustudio packages installed04:58
holsteinon my test machine04:59
holsteinin 10.1004:59
holsteinand 11.0404:59
holsteinbut, i run 10.04 everywhere04:59
holsteini might move my netbook up to xubuntu soon05:00
holsteinsince we are looking at XFCE for ubuntustudio05:00
holsteinmabye for 11.10?05:00
holsteinnot sure05:00
tucemiuxholstein, youre running around in circles, what distro do you mostly use?05:02
holsteintucemiux: 10.0405:02
tucemiuxubuntu vanilla or ubuntustudio?05:02
holsteinwell, both05:02
holsteinmy studio machine is an ubuntustudio install05:03
tucemiuxyou two timing adventerous soul05:03
holsteinlike from the actual ubuntustudio disc05:03
holsteinbut the others, i have added the packages i want to them05:03
tucemiuxi dont know how you manage but it's an easy choice for me, ubuntustudio all the way05:04
tucemiuxunless off course I was doing some sort of development, then I would probably have some red hat and centOS boxes somewhere05:04
holsteinwell, ubuntustudio = ubuntu05:05
holsteinso its really all the same*05:06
tucemiuxholstein, i began with ubuntu and all the sound appz straight sucked plus the settings are different, I waited for ubuntustudio's release - since then I never used ubuntu ever again05:09
holsteinright05:10
holsteinit was probably more about the release though05:10
holsteinlike, if you were using ubuntu 9.1005:10
holsteinand then ubuntustudio 10.04 was great05:10
holsteinits was probably more about the version05:10
holsteintheres not a whole lot different these days05:11
holsteinthe network manager is finally in by default05:11
holsteinthe gnome network manager05:11
holsteinwhich i think will ease things05:11
tucemiuxyeah, i forgot when but after some time the real time kernel didnt really matter, i upgraded and ubuntustudio had the generic kernel but all the sound appz worked great05:11
holsteinand we didnt get the -lowlatency kernel05:11
holsteinso, the kernel is the same05:11
tucemiuxim no too worried about the network manager, that one doesnt affect xruns much LoL05:12
holsteinwe have been testing a lot05:12
tucemiux2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux05:12
holsteinwith the -generic -lowlatency and -realtime kernels05:13
tucemiuxthat's what ubuntustudio uses on my laptop and it sounds awesome05:13
holsteini dont think it well be a big deal05:13
holsteinby the time 12.04 comes around05:13
holsteinthe one kernel will hopefully do it all well05:13
tucemiuxyeah but for historical purposes I still call ubuntustudio the real time kernel distro he he he05:14
holsteinand hopefully a live CD by then too :)05:14
tucemiuxyou mean DVD05:14
holsteinsure05:14
holsteinlive disc05:14
tucemiuxif ubuntustudio had at least a live DVD I would download it for fun05:14
tucemiuxmy laptop is shutting down and starting up in record time, im amazed at what the developers have done05:15
holsteineah05:15
holsteinyeah*05:15
holsteinthe kernel team rocks :)05:15
tucemiuxand i wonder whatever happened to jussi. , he used to hang around here at least once very now and then05:16
tucemiuxanyways, im going to reboot my laptop just for kicks, be back in osmp in a few05:16
jussiIm here!!!07:02
jussiI just dont wake up that early...07:03
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relateablestuck on linux for creative minds screen when trying to boot. any way to see whats going on?14:59
AutoStaticrelateable: Try ctrl+alt+F115:10
AutoStaticOr reboot in recovery mode15:11
relateableshould i edit my boot loader without quiet splash?15:11
AutoStaticYou could try15:14
holsteinrelateable: how did the regular ubuntu cd run live?15:14
relateabledist upgraded from maverick to narwhal15:15
holsteinwow15:15
holsteinbrave15:15
holsteinthat take all day yesterday ?15:16
relateable4 hours15:16
holsteinnot bad15:17
wrnestora18:59
holsteinb18:59
wrnestorIs there an apt-source that I can add to my current UBUNTU to install the rt-kernel distributed with UbuntuStudio?19:00
holsteinyou probably dont need it*19:00
holsteinbut...19:00
holsteinhttps://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa19:00
holsteinsudo apt-add-repository ppa:abogani/ppa19:01
holsteinsudo apt-get update19:01
holsteinsudo apt-get install linux-realtime19:01
wrnestorthanks, the ppa link is what I needed!   I love UBUNTU-multimedia, but would like to add RT to regular UBUNTU and start form there.  I'd need to install ubuntustudio-audio packages to get drivers compiled against the RT kernel, correct?19:08
holsteinnope19:09
phed__holstein: why not, might i ask?19:09
holsteinwrnestor: you can do that however you want19:09
holsteinyou can just install the stuff you want19:09
holsteinOR, you can get the meta package19:10
holsteinphed__: JACK has been in the main repo for a while now19:10
holsteinSO19:10
holsteinwhen you install ardour19:10
holsteinor something like darkice19:10
holsteinit comes with JACK support19:10
holstein*when thats available19:10
holsteintheres no ubuntustudio magic that makes that happen19:10
holsteinused to be19:10
holsteineven in ubuntustudio19:10
holsteinyou had to compile things like darkice19:11
holsteinwith JACK support19:11
holsteinwrnestor: i usually suggest opening a package manager19:12
holsteinand searching ubuntustudio19:12
holsteinyou can see what metapackages are availalbe19:12
wrnestorI use APT-GET19:12
holsteinright19:12
holsteinso sudo apt-cache search ubuntustudio19:13
wrnestorright19:13
holstein*however you want to do19:13
wrnestoror just browse on the wiki =-)19:13
wrnestorSidenote:  any reason to look forward to OpenKinect being included?19:13
wrnestorThere is a ppa for it, but it does not (ASFAIK) include the wrappers/source.19:14
holstein?19:15
holsteini suppose is you want it19:15
holsteinyou could look forward to it :)19:15
wrnestorhaha19:15
wrnestorIf I knew what I was doing, I'd work on it.19:16
wrnestorInstead of just looking forward.19:16
holsteinpersonally, ive decided not to buy any microsoft products19:16
holsteinbut that project looks awesome19:16
wrnestorWell, good for you:  there's a version made by asus!19:16
holsteincool19:17
wrnestorhttp://gizmo.do/mgDGbM19:17
holsteincheck out #opensourcemusicians :)19:18
wrnestorThe chip-reference that Micro$oft used was openSource(d?)  by PrimeSense, and they contributed to the OpenKinect driver project.19:18
holsteinsome arduino guys over there19:18

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