[00:52] <Mahjongg> hello, how can I record some audio that is already playing on my system?
[00:54] <orngjce223> Fire up JaCK and patch system into system? I dunno
[00:56] <holstein> Mahjongg: what audio?
[00:56] <Mahjongg> holstein, google translate pronounciation...
[00:56] <holstein> if its from the internet, i suggest asking the creator for a digital copy
[00:56] <holstein> hmmm
[00:57] <Mahjongg> I just need one word pronounced, and do not think they'll bother at all
[00:57] <holstein> Mahjongg: i would just fire up gnome-recorder
[00:57] <holstein> or whatever it it
[00:57] <holstein> sound recorder?
[00:57] <holstein> something easy
[00:57] <Mahjongg> gnome-sound-recorder? tried it with no luck
[00:57] <holstein> Mahjongg: ?
[00:57] <holstein> what was the result?
[00:58] <holstein> you heard the audio
[00:58] <holstein> pushed record
[00:58] <Mahjongg> I heard but recorder did not record anything
[00:58] <holstein> and nothing got recorded?
[00:58] <holstein> OK
[00:58] <holstein> open a terminal
[00:58] <holstein> and run
[00:58] <holstein> alsamixer
[00:58] <Mahjongg> yep
[00:58] <holstein> hit F5
[00:58] <holstein> and see what you have there
[00:58] <holstein> i would get something playing
[00:59] <holstein> and hit record
[00:59] <holstein> and come over there and tweak
[00:59] <holstein> OR
[00:59] <holstein> get a little cable
[00:59] <holstein> and go from the headphone out to the input ;)
[01:00] <Mahjongg> holstein, I would prefer not blow anything in my laptop, if possible :)
[01:01] <Mahjongg> holstein, come over to alsa mixer and tweak... can you a bit more specific at that point?
[01:01] <Mahjongg> I have like 8 channels when I hit f5
[01:01] <Mahjongg> all seems to be at highest
[01:02] <Mahjongg> 91/91 85/85, etc...
[01:02] <Mahjongg> except SPDIF ones
[01:02] <Mahjongg> there are two of them
[01:02] <holstein> Mahjongg: well, no
[01:02] <holstein> since all the label can be incorrect
[01:02] <holstein> you really just have to tweak
[01:03] <holstein> everything
[01:03] <holstein> you should do it carefully*
[01:03] <Mahjongg> just play with levels and see if something gets recorded, right?
[01:03] <holstein> yeah
[01:03] <Mahjongg> carefully?
[01:03] <holstein> yeah
[01:03] <holstein> if you're worried about blowing something
[01:03] <holstein> which is not likely
[01:04] <holstein> since we *should* be adjusting capture levels
[01:04] <holstein> not output levels
[01:04] <holstein> dont waste too much time there
[01:04] <holstein> theres a pulse package you can try too
[01:06] <Mahjongg> holstein, pulseaudio-module-xx
[01:06] <Mahjongg> ?
[01:06] <holstein> nah
[01:07] <Mahjongg> pulseaudio-utils?
[01:07] <holstein> pavucontrol
[01:07] <holstein> sudo apt-get install pavucontrol
[01:07] <holstein> that'll be pulse audio volume control
[01:08] <holstein> if that doest work, i would literally get a cable
[01:08] <holstein> and plug it from the headphone out
[01:08] <holstein> to the line in
[01:10] <Mahjongg> holstein, installed pavucontrol fine, it is working, but not very sure how to attack it...
[01:10] <Mahjongg> I can enable disable audio coming from chromium
[01:11] <Mahjongg> I can change chromium audio's right left balance
[01:14] <holstein> probably
[01:14] <holstein> Mahjongg: is it recording the audio?
[01:14] <Mahjongg> it records the audio that mic heards from the speakers...
[01:14] <Mahjongg> hears...
[01:14] <holstein> well, thats a start
[01:15] <holstein> you have to change the source
[01:15] <holstein> you have it set to internal mic
[01:15] <holstein> you can get the cable i keep mentioning
[01:15] <holstein> and select line in
[01:15] <holstein> OR, you need to somehow select the mix
[01:15] <holstein> *whats playing
[01:15] <Mahjongg> where do I change the source? input devices?
[01:15] <holstein> Mahjongg: try that
[01:16] <Mahjongg> there I have two items... monitor of internal audio analog stereo
[01:16] <Mahjongg> and
[01:16] <Mahjongg> internal audio analog stereo
[01:16] <Mahjongg> second hears me typing...
[01:16] <Mahjongg> first is disabled
[01:17] <orngjce223> Hmm.
[01:17] <orngjce223> Is it possible to enable the first?
[01:17]  * orngjce223 idly muses on how this'd be so much easier with a genuine patchbay
[01:18] <Mahjongg> on the condifuration tab I have these:
[01:18] <Mahjongg> under internal audio:
[01:18] <Mahjongg> analog stereo duplec
[01:19] <Mahjongg> analog stereo output
[01:19] <holstein> with these things
[01:19] <Mahjongg> digital stereo iec958 output+analog stereo input
[01:19] <holstein> you usually just have to try them all
[01:19] <holstein> and fiddle with them
[01:19] <holstein> since the settings are hardware specific
[01:19] <holstein> and dont have to be labled properly
[01:20] <holstein> Mahjongg: do you have a cable?
[01:20] <Mahjongg> hmm I wish I remembered the original configuration :/
[01:20] <holstein> a little 1/8th inch trs cable?
[01:20] <Mahjongg> I already played with them :)
[01:20] <Mahjongg> I have a cable in my car yes
[01:20] <holstein> just plug that in
[01:20] <holstein> and select the line in as the source
[01:20] <holstein> and that'll work
[01:20] <Mahjongg> regular headphone jack on both ends
[01:20] <holstein> right
[01:20] <holstein> thats the one
[01:22] <orngjce223> I have many broken cheap headphones and am considering just soldering one of those together for my own use.
[01:22] <holstein> if the wire works like that
[01:23] <holstein> sometimes, its so cheap, you cant solder it
[01:24] <Mahjongg> holstein, thanks so much! actually it worked right as you suggested...
[01:24] <Mahjongg> even before the cable...
[01:24] <holstein> Mahjongg: :)
[01:24] <holstein> thats even better*
[01:24] <Mahjongg> I cahnged the configuration to one of them and it started recording inner audio
[01:24] <holstein> the cable is a bit of a work around
[01:25] <orngjce223> Cool.
[01:34] <Mahjongg> thanks again, bye
[03:31] <kjxl9> hello
[03:32] <holstein> o/
[03:32] <kjxl9> im new to ubuntu and was wondering, will my VSTs from FL studio work on rosegarden?
[03:32] <holstein> not sure
[03:32] <holstein> but
[03:32] <holstein> with JACK
[03:32] <holstein> you wont be limited to RG
[03:32] <kjxl9> ???
[03:33] <holstein> IF your vst's work
[03:33] <holstein> they just work
[03:33] <holstein> with whatever you want to use them with
[03:33] <holstein> ardour
[03:33] <holstein> RG
[03:33] <holstein> qtractor
[03:33] <holstein> whatever...
[03:33] <holstein> but, finding out if they work can be challenging
[03:33] <holstein> since most people on out end really cant do anything about it
[03:34] <holstein> and the guys that made them dont care
[03:34] <kjxl9> well thanks for the info, cya
[03:34] <holstein> you can try..
[03:34] <holstein> #kxstudio
[03:34] <kjxl9> ok
[03:34] <holstein> those guys use a lot of vst
[03:34] <holstein> windows vst's
[03:34] <holstein> you can hang out there for a while and ask
[04:29] <tucemiux> anyone upgraded yet?  the start up animation was changed, it's awesome!  my laptop starts up even faster than ever!  It looks awesome!  Hopefully every other ubuntu based distro looks the same but my laptops rocks!!!
[04:34] <holstein> my studio machine is still running 10.04
[04:36] <holstein> i saw that plymouth screenshot though
[04:36] <holstein> thats looks sweet :)
[04:36] <tucemiux> ok well first I use my laptop to test -- it's the one I use most and dont have data on it either way
[04:37] <tucemiux> and as soon as I found out 11.04 was released I went and started the upgrade this morning, 14 hours later my laptop is upgraded!
[04:37] <holstein> yeah
[04:37] <holstein> the upgrades take a long time
[04:38] <tucemiux> everything is up and running just fine, problem is root now is used up 84%, I only have 1.5G left on that partition :-(
[04:39] <tucemiux> I might have to erase my home directory go give root more space then create a home directory again and put it on my fstab and hope it works o.O
[04:45] <ScottL> yay, distrowatch finally reported that ubuntu studio was released
[04:45] <tucemiux> ha ha ha
[04:45] <ScottL> doh, wrong channel
[04:45] <holstein> w00t:)
[04:46] <tucemiux> ScottL, i think youre in the right channel, actually
[04:46] <tucemiux> if im not mistaken o.O
[04:47] <tucemiux> ubuntustudio is ranked 50 on distrowatch o.O
[04:47] <holstein> cool
[04:47] <tucemiux> holstein, you have got to stop using your mac
[04:48] <tucemiux> or at least use it less
[04:48] <holstein> my girlfriend uses it
[04:48] <holstein> lots of folk use ubuntu
[04:48] <holstein> with whatever audio packages added
[04:48] <holstein> i only have one actual ubuntustudio install
[04:48] <holstein> in the house
[04:49] <tucemiux> ok well i dont know what ubuntu or anything else looks like but ubuntustudio now looks ***PERFECT*** on my laptop
[04:49] <holstein> thats great :)
[04:49] <tucemiux> i used to complain that the icons were a bit too big but now they look perfect, I only have one bar windows style with the default ubuntustudio settings
[04:51] <tucemiux> and not only the fonts and icons looks the right size but also the brightness looks awesome and firefox seems to work faster but maybe it's just me
[04:51] <holstein> FF4 is fast
[04:51] <holstein> ive been running it occasionally
[04:53] <tucemiux> youre going to upgrade your ubuntustudio?  i cant unity on my laptop but it's all good, im going to keep using this for some time before I upgrade my desktop
[04:54] <holstein> that particular ubuntustudio install is 10.04
[04:54] <holstein> and thats where it will stay
[04:54] <holstein> i have a test machine though
[04:54] <holstein> that i'll put 11.10 on
[04:54] <holstein> whenever it comes out
[04:54] <holstein> to test whatever
[04:56] <tucemiux> ok well you should try ubuntustudio on a virtual machine, at least, you wont be disappointed -- what do you use nowadays anyway? just cucirous
[04:56] <tucemiux> **curious**
[04:58] <holstein> well, i have the ubuntustudio packages installed
[04:59] <holstein> on my test machine
[04:59] <holstein> in 10.10
[04:59] <holstein> and 11.04
[04:59] <holstein> but, i run 10.04 everywhere
[05:00] <holstein> i might move my netbook up to xubuntu soon
[05:00] <holstein> since we are looking at XFCE for ubuntustudio
[05:00] <holstein> mabye for 11.10?
[05:00] <holstein> not sure
[05:02] <tucemiux> holstein, youre running around in circles, what distro do you mostly use?
[05:02] <holstein> tucemiux: 10.04
[05:02] <tucemiux> ubuntu vanilla or ubuntustudio?
[05:02] <holstein> well, both
[05:03] <holstein> my studio machine is an ubuntustudio install
[05:03] <tucemiux> you two timing adventerous soul
[05:03] <holstein> like from the actual ubuntustudio disc
[05:03] <holstein> but the others, i have added the packages i want to them
[05:04] <tucemiux> i dont know how you manage but it's an easy choice for me, ubuntustudio all the way
[05:04] <tucemiux> unless off course I was doing some sort of development, then I would probably have some red hat and centOS boxes somewhere
[05:05] <holstein> well, ubuntustudio = ubuntu
[05:06] <holstein> so its really all the same*
[05:09] <tucemiux> holstein, i began with ubuntu and all the sound appz straight sucked plus the settings are different, I waited for ubuntustudio's release - since then I never used ubuntu ever again
[05:10] <holstein> right
[05:10] <holstein> it was probably more about the release though
[05:10] <holstein> like, if you were using ubuntu 9.10
[05:10] <holstein> and then ubuntustudio 10.04 was great
[05:10] <holstein> its was probably more about the version
[05:11] <holstein> theres not a whole lot different these days
[05:11] <holstein> the network manager is finally in by default
[05:11] <holstein> the gnome network manager
[05:11] <holstein> which i think will ease things
[05:11] <tucemiux> yeah, i forgot when but after some time the real time kernel didnt really matter, i upgraded and ubuntustudio had the generic kernel but all the sound appz worked great
[05:11] <holstein> and we didnt get the -lowlatency kernel
[05:11] <holstein> so, the kernel is the same
[05:12] <tucemiux> im no too worried about the network manager, that one doesnt affect xruns much LoL
[05:12] <holstein> we have been testing a lot
[05:12] <tucemiux> 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:50 UTC 2011 i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
[05:13] <holstein> with the -generic -lowlatency and -realtime kernels
[05:13] <tucemiux> that's what ubuntustudio uses on my laptop and it sounds awesome
[05:13] <holstein> i dont think it well be a big deal
[05:13] <holstein> by the time 12.04 comes around
[05:13] <holstein> the one kernel will hopefully do it all well
[05:14] <tucemiux> yeah but for historical purposes I still call ubuntustudio the real time kernel distro he he he
[05:14] <holstein> and hopefully a live CD by then too :)
[05:14] <tucemiux> you mean DVD
[05:14] <holstein> sure
[05:14] <holstein> live disc
[05:14] <tucemiux> if ubuntustudio had at least a live DVD I would download it for fun
[05:15] <tucemiux> my laptop is shutting down and starting up in record time, im amazed at what the developers have done
[05:15] <holstein> eah
[05:15] <holstein> yeah*
[05:15] <holstein> the kernel team rocks :)
[05:16] <tucemiux> and i wonder whatever happened to jussi. , he used to hang around here at least once very now and then
[05:16] <tucemiux> anyways, im going to reboot my laptop just for kicks, be back in osmp in a few
[07:02] <jussi> Im here!!!
[07:03] <jussi> I just dont wake up that early...
[14:59] <relateable> stuck on linux for creative minds screen when trying to boot. any way to see whats going on?
[15:10] <AutoStatic> relateable: Try ctrl+alt+F1
[15:11] <AutoStatic> Or reboot in recovery mode
[15:11] <relateable> should i edit my boot loader without quiet splash?
[15:14] <AutoStatic> You could try
[15:14] <holstein> relateable: how did the regular ubuntu cd run live?
[15:15] <relateable> dist upgraded from maverick to narwhal
[15:15] <holstein> wow
[15:15] <holstein> brave
[15:16] <holstein> that take all day yesterday ?
[15:16] <relateable> 4 hours
[15:17] <holstein> not bad
[18:59] <wrnestor> a
[18:59] <holstein> b
[19:00] <wrnestor> Is there an apt-source that I can add to my current UBUNTU to install the rt-kernel distributed with UbuntuStudio?
[19:00] <holstein> you probably dont need it*
[19:00] <holstein> but...
[19:00] <holstein> https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/ppa
[19:01] <holstein> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:abogani/ppa
[19:01] <holstein> sudo apt-get update
[19:01] <holstein> sudo apt-get install linux-realtime
[19:08] <wrnestor> thanks, the ppa link is what I needed!   I love UBUNTU-multimedia, but would like to add RT to regular UBUNTU and start form there.  I'd need to install ubuntustudio-audio packages to get drivers compiled against the RT kernel, correct?
[19:09] <holstein> nope
[19:09] <phed__> holstein: why not, might i ask?
[19:09] <holstein> wrnestor: you can do that however you want
[19:09] <holstein> you can just install the stuff you want
[19:10] <holstein> OR, you can get the meta package
[19:10] <holstein> phed__: JACK has been in the main repo for a while now
[19:10] <holstein> SO
[19:10] <holstein> when you install ardour
[19:10] <holstein> or something like darkice
[19:10] <holstein> it comes with JACK support
[19:10] <holstein> *when thats available
[19:10] <holstein> theres no ubuntustudio magic that makes that happen
[19:10] <holstein> used to be
[19:10] <holstein> even in ubuntustudio
[19:11] <holstein> you had to compile things like darkice
[19:11] <holstein> with JACK support
[19:12] <holstein> wrnestor: i usually suggest opening a package manager
[19:12] <holstein> and searching ubuntustudio
[19:12] <holstein> you can see what metapackages are availalbe
[19:12] <wrnestor> I use APT-GET
[19:12] <holstein> right
[19:13] <holstein> so sudo apt-cache search ubuntustudio
[19:13] <wrnestor> right
[19:13] <holstein> *however you want to do
[19:13] <wrnestor> or just browse on the wiki =-)
[19:13] <wrnestor> Sidenote:  any reason to look forward to OpenKinect being included?
[19:14] <wrnestor> There is a ppa for it, but it does not (ASFAIK) include the wrappers/source.
[19:15] <holstein> ?
[19:15] <holstein> i suppose is you want it
[19:15] <holstein> you could look forward to it :)
[19:15] <wrnestor> haha
[19:16] <wrnestor> If I knew what I was doing, I'd work on it.
[19:16] <wrnestor> Instead of just looking forward.
[19:16] <holstein> personally, ive decided not to buy any microsoft products
[19:16] <holstein> but that project looks awesome
[19:16] <wrnestor> Well, good for you:  there's a version made by asus!
[19:17] <holstein> cool
[19:17] <wrnestor> http://gizmo.do/mgDGbM
[19:18] <holstein> check out #opensourcemusicians :)
[19:18] <wrnestor> The chip-reference that Micro$oft used was openSource(d?)  by PrimeSense, and they contributed to the OpenKinect driver project.
[19:18] <holstein> some arduino guys over there