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charlie-tcacody-somerville, pleia2 : can someone please update the download page for 11.04?03:14
cody-somervilleYup. I can.03:15
charlie-tcaI can't even get the site to come up half the time03:15
cody-somervillehttps://www-admin.xubuntu.org/ to login now.03:15
charlie-tcaThanks. I would be happy to just get https://xubuntu.org/ more than 50% of the time03:15
cody-somervilleright03:16
cody-somervillethere appears to be a problem with the cache they setup03:17
cody-somervilleI'll escalate to IS03:17
charlie-tcareal bad timing for them to decide to do that today03:17
cody-somervilleWe were probably overloading the server again.03:17
charlie-tcahm, I think we are overloading the main now, since the only images available are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/natty/release/03:19
holsteinhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/11.04/release/03:19
holsteinthats where i was looking ^03:19
holsteinprobably the same target though...03:19
charlie-tcait is, it is just a link to each other03:20
charlie-tcaThanks for trying, cody-somerville 03:29
charlie-tcaAt least I know it wasn't me this time... :-)03:29
charlie-tcaI am going to bed, maybe I can sleep tonight.03:29
cody-somervillecharlie-tca, IS is working on it04:08
cody-somervilleAnyone have a good 11.04 screenshot I can use for frontpage of xubuntu.org?05:25
cody-somervilleFYI, Traffic to xubuntu.org today tripled from the daily average05:28
* cody-somerville also notes that he has updated the website except for new screenshots.05:29
Unit193cody-somerville: http://imgur.com/a/ppfTE05:34
Unit193Second or third one down05:35
Unit193(Not saying they are great)05:35
cody-somervilleis that running in a vm or something?05:35
Unit193Yeah. You want the one I'm using now?05:36
cody-somervilleNo, its okay. I gotta go to bed. Its just that I can see a bit of the window on the bottom of the image (specifically, lower right)05:37
ochosicharlie-tca, pleia2: could someone correct the "Natty Meerkat" on the "Get Xubuntu" page?08:43
ochosialso: would be great if someone could update the screenshot08:43
ochosisry, g2g now, but probably bbl08:45
micahgwhat a maverick that meerkat was, even became natty :)08:46
ochosibtw, in case any of you understand .hu feel free to check whether this review is good or bad: http://mogorvamormota.hu/2011/04/10/xubuntu-11-04-elozetes/11:00
mr_pouitgoogle translate seems to think it's not bad11:22
mr_pouitespecially nice comments about the appearance/theme11:22
ochosioh, why didn't i think of that....11:25
ochosii guess i was distracted by watching the wedding :)11:25
ochosiyes, seems fairly positive in general11:29
TechnoFreakIs this the right place to point out that it currently says 'Xubuntu Mirrors (11.04 Natty Meerkat):' on http://xubuntu.org/get ?13:04
charlie-tcaA review of Xubuntu 11.04 - http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/xubuntu-1104-released-with-xfce-48.html14:16
charlie-tcacody-somerville: thank you for updating the website. 14:16
charlie-tcaXubuntu 9.10 is EOL today, 2011-04-2915:13
charlie-tcaXubuntu 8.04 is EOL on 2011-05-1215:48
charlie-tcamr_pouit: Monday meetings, what is the best time for you?15:50
mr_pouityo16:11
mr_pouitcharlie-tca: what are the proposed times for everyone?16:11
mr_pouitprobably after 6pm utc16:12
charlie-tcamr_pouit: times jump all over, but if 7pm utc is good, I think we run with it16:22
charlie-tcanothing before 16:00 UTC was okay16:22
pleia2ochosi: fixed "Natty Meerkat"17:13
charlie-tcathank you17:15
pleia2I am going to be super busy these next few weeks, but I'll be working on updates when I can, if anyone is going through the site and finds something a quick bug report would help a lot https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website17:24
pleia2then I won't lose track :)17:24
charlie-tcanew image on the frontpage?17:25
pleia2yeah, screenshots are one of the much needed things17:26
pleia2I will have time at 00:00 UTC to start updating screenshots (if someone else wants to start before then I can upload them, else I'll just take them all myself in a virtualbox install)17:26
* pleia2 busy at work until then17:27
ochosipleia2: thanks! (also for the screeners - i might in fact be able to provide them, i'll ping you about it if i can)19:08
charlie-tcaIdeas for Oneiric - lightdm19:12
charlie-tcaIdeas for Oneiric - improve on existing theme and artwork19:12
* charlie-tca finally got a background he can use...19:13
Unit193I think it would be nice to have pastebinit preinstalled (for command output)19:14
charlie-tcaIdeas for Oneiric - midori (bookmarks can be imported now)19:14
charlie-tcafeel free to add to this list19:14
Unit193Ideas for Oneiric - pastebinti19:15
charlie-tcaIdeas for Oneiric - pavucontrol for pulse audio19:15
charlie-tcapastebinit really works? I guess I don't use it19:16
micahgpastebinit rocks19:18
charlie-tcaI guess I should put these on the ML, huh? keeps them from getting lost19:18
micahgcharlie-tca: I'd support midori at this point :)19:19
micahgerr, or rather at least by the time we get to release19:19
charlie-tcait it is good, why don't we install pastebinit by default?19:19
micahgspace?19:19
micahgalso, cli tools aren't jumping to be placed in the default install19:20
charlie-tcaspace shouldn19:20
charlie-tcaspace shouldn't be a problem, can't we pull it in during the downloads?19:20
charlie-tca31.7KB, that should fit19:21
Unit193pastebinit = 492 kB installed19:21
micahgcharlie-tca: are you talking for xubuntu?19:21
charlie-tcayeah, but we put the compressed file in19:21
charlie-tcayes19:21
Unit193charlie-tca: Sorry19:22
micahgI don't see why it couldn't go in19:22
charlie-tcanot if it is that small19:22
charlie-tcaalthough sometimes mr_pouit sees reasons I miss19:25
pleia2ochosi: oh good re: screenshots, I might update the front page one tonight and then I'll go through the site to find others which are needed and come up with a list19:31
charlie-tcaMessage to ML sent out with ideas19:31
charlie-tcathat would be great! first impressions count, thus the front page thing... 19:32
Unit193I gave a link of the main screen, can I help anymore?19:32
pleia2k, front page screenshot updated19:51
charlie-tcaThank you19:53
charlie-tcanow I can go to "I don't care so much until we get things changed over"?19:54
pleia2hm?19:54
pleia2we'll be copying all the pages over to wordpress, so no effort on improving the content and screenshots now is wasted19:55
charlie-tcaI can wait for almost everything until we get the website changed over to wordpress19:55
charlie-tcaright19:55
charlie-tcaI don't see any issues with that19:55
pleia2:)19:56
pleia2ochosi: if you could get the screenshots with the pretty grey backdrop on http://xubuntu.org/tour that'd be great (I can do straight screenshots, but I am useless with effects)19:58
ochosipleia2: what pretty grey backdrop are you thinking of?20:15
pleia2ochosi: on /tour the images have fuzzy grey borders20:15
pleia2or shadows20:15
ochosiyou mean the shadow?20:15
pleia2whatever they are called :)20:15
ochosiah :)20:15
ochosianywho, if you can give me clean screener i can always add the shadow20:16
ochosiatm i'm busy helping other people around to install xubuntu20:16
ochosi(in rl, not on irc ;) )20:16
pleia2ok, thanks20:17
pleia2ochosi: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/xubuntu/natty/21:45
pleia2let me know if you want more :) for /tour21:45
pleia2(no rush, I just had some time during lunch so I got these done)21:46
knomen-xubuntu-sc.png has crap at the left side?21:52
knomeas well as -sc221:52
pleia2the "n" ?21:52
knomeyup21:52
pleia2yeah, ochosi will clean these up before we post them on the site21:52
knomeright, good21:52
knomewell... the firefox shot isn't perfect either (the shadow seems to be cut, which is harder to fix)21:53
pleia2yeah, I may need to redo some to get things perfect21:54
knomei have an idea.21:59
knomewhy don't we just drop #xubuntu-offtopic, and try to allow more chatter in #xubuntu while there is no support issues, and we'd get a more active #xubuntu altogether22:00
pleia2I don't have a problem with doing a trial of this22:01
knomei'm proposing this only because #xubuntu is already quite relaxed, and even if users were pointed to -offtopic, they rarely stay there, which means that channel is not going to be active, ever22:01
knomewell of course this needs to be discussed broader, but right now it just seems we're hitting our heads against the wall telling people not to say anything in #xubuntu22:02
* pleia2 nods22:02
knomeof course, we could try to keep the discussion somewhat related to xubuntu/linux, so we don't go to subjects like politics...22:02
knome(though that might relate :P)22:02
pleia2even in #ubuntu-offtopic they ask people to avoid religion, politics22:03
knomesure22:03
pleia2!o4o22:03
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knomeisn't that in the ubuntu CoC22:03
knomeah, it was the freenode policy22:03
knomewhich kind of wasn't so positive regarding pol/rel22:03
pleia2wouldn't be a problem if people could act like grown ups :x22:04
knomeheh22:04
knomesure22:04
knomesent mail to dev ML22:14
knomeugh. sent three mails there22:45
Unit193knome: I like the idea of putting -offtopic in #xubuntu, but did you see your emlail?22:59
knomedid i see my email? :)23:00
knomeor do you mean - did i read the reply from charlie, which i already replied?23:00
* Unit193 didn't get that yet23:02

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