[03:14] <charlie-tca> cody-somerville, pleia2 : can someone please update the download page for 11.04?
[03:15] <cody-somerville> Yup. I can.
[03:15] <charlie-tca> I can't even get the site to come up half the time
[03:15] <cody-somerville> https://www-admin.xubuntu.org/ to login now.
[03:15] <charlie-tca> Thanks. I would be happy to just get https://xubuntu.org/ more than 50% of the time
[03:16] <cody-somerville> right
[03:17] <cody-somerville> there appears to be a problem with the cache they setup
[03:17] <cody-somerville> I'll escalate to IS
[03:17] <charlie-tca> real bad timing for them to decide to do that today
[03:17] <cody-somerville> We were probably overloading the server again.
[03:19] <charlie-tca> hm, I think we are overloading the main now, since the only images available are at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/natty/release/
[03:19] <holstein> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/11.04/release/
[03:19] <holstein> thats where i was looking ^
[03:19] <holstein> probably the same target though...
[03:20] <charlie-tca> it is, it is just a link to each other
[03:29] <charlie-tca> Thanks for trying, cody-somerville 
[03:29] <charlie-tca> At least I know it wasn't me this time... :-)
[03:29] <charlie-tca> I am going to bed, maybe I can sleep tonight.
[04:08] <cody-somerville> charlie-tca, IS is working on it
[05:25] <cody-somerville> Anyone have a good 11.04 screenshot I can use for frontpage of xubuntu.org?
[05:28] <cody-somerville> FYI, Traffic to xubuntu.org today tripled from the daily average
[05:29]  * cody-somerville also notes that he has updated the website except for new screenshots.
[05:34] <Unit193> cody-somerville: http://imgur.com/a/ppfTE
[05:35] <Unit193> Second or third one down
[05:35] <Unit193> (Not saying they are great)
[05:35] <cody-somerville> is that running in a vm or something?
[05:36] <Unit193> Yeah. You want the one I'm using now?
[05:37] <cody-somerville> No, its okay. I gotta go to bed. Its just that I can see a bit of the window on the bottom of the image (specifically, lower right)
[08:43] <ochosi> charlie-tca, pleia2: could someone correct the "Natty Meerkat" on the "Get Xubuntu" page?
[08:43] <ochosi> also: would be great if someone could update the screenshot
[08:45] <ochosi> sry, g2g now, but probably bbl
[08:46] <micahg> what a maverick that meerkat was, even became natty :)
[11:00] <ochosi> btw, in case any of you understand .hu feel free to check whether this review is good or bad: http://mogorvamormota.hu/2011/04/10/xubuntu-11-04-elozetes/
[11:22] <mr_pouit> google translate seems to think it's not bad
[11:22] <mr_pouit> especially nice comments about the appearance/theme
[11:25] <ochosi> oh, why didn't i think of that....
[11:25] <ochosi> i guess i was distracted by watching the wedding :)
[11:29] <ochosi> yes, seems fairly positive in general
[13:04] <TechnoFreak> Is this the right place to point out that it currently says 'Xubuntu Mirrors (11.04 Natty Meerkat):' on http://xubuntu.org/get ?
[14:16] <charlie-tca> A review of Xubuntu 11.04 - http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/xubuntu-1104-released-with-xfce-48.html
[14:16] <charlie-tca> cody-somerville: thank you for updating the website. 
[15:13] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu 9.10 is EOL today, 2011-04-29
[15:48] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu 8.04 is EOL on 2011-05-12
[15:50] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: Monday meetings, what is the best time for you?
[16:11] <mr_pouit> yo
[16:11] <mr_pouit> charlie-tca: what are the proposed times for everyone?
[16:12] <mr_pouit> probably after 6pm utc
[16:22] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: times jump all over, but if 7pm utc is good, I think we run with it
[16:22] <charlie-tca> nothing before 16:00 UTC was okay
[17:13] <pleia2> ochosi: fixed "Natty Meerkat"
[17:15] <charlie-tca> thank you
[17:24] <pleia2> I am going to be super busy these next few weeks, but I'll be working on updates when I can, if anyone is going through the site and finds something a quick bug report would help a lot https://bugs.launchpad.net/xubuntu-website
[17:24] <pleia2> then I won't lose track :)
[17:25] <charlie-tca> new image on the frontpage?
[17:26] <pleia2> yeah, screenshots are one of the much needed things
[17:26] <pleia2> I will have time at 00:00 UTC to start updating screenshots (if someone else wants to start before then I can upload them, else I'll just take them all myself in a virtualbox install)
[17:27]  * pleia2 busy at work until then
[19:08] <ochosi> pleia2: thanks! (also for the screeners - i might in fact be able to provide them, i'll ping you about it if i can)
[19:12] <charlie-tca> Ideas for Oneiric - lightdm
[19:12] <charlie-tca> Ideas for Oneiric - improve on existing theme and artwork
[19:13]  * charlie-tca finally got a background he can use...
[19:14] <Unit193> I think it would be nice to have pastebinit preinstalled (for command output)
[19:14] <charlie-tca> Ideas for Oneiric - midori (bookmarks can be imported now)
[19:14] <charlie-tca> feel free to add to this list
[19:15] <Unit193> Ideas for Oneiric - pastebinti
[19:15] <charlie-tca> Ideas for Oneiric - pavucontrol for pulse audio
[19:16] <charlie-tca> pastebinit really works? I guess I don't use it
[19:18] <micahg> pastebinit rocks
[19:18] <charlie-tca> I guess I should put these on the ML, huh? keeps them from getting lost
[19:19] <micahg> charlie-tca: I'd support midori at this point :)
[19:19] <micahg> err, or rather at least by the time we get to release
[19:19] <charlie-tca> it it is good, why don't we install pastebinit by default?
[19:19] <micahg> space?
[19:20] <micahg> also, cli tools aren't jumping to be placed in the default install
[19:20] <charlie-tca> space shouldn
[19:20] <charlie-tca> space shouldn't be a problem, can't we pull it in during the downloads?
[19:21] <charlie-tca> 31.7KB, that should fit
[19:21] <Unit193> pastebinit = 492 kB installed
[19:21] <micahg> charlie-tca: are you talking for xubuntu?
[19:21] <charlie-tca> yeah, but we put the compressed file in
[19:21] <charlie-tca> yes
[19:22] <Unit193> charlie-tca: Sorry
[19:22] <micahg> I don't see why it couldn't go in
[19:22] <charlie-tca> not if it is that small
[19:25] <charlie-tca> although sometimes mr_pouit sees reasons I miss
[19:31] <pleia2> ochosi: oh good re: screenshots, I might update the front page one tonight and then I'll go through the site to find others which are needed and come up with a list
[19:31] <charlie-tca> Message to ML sent out with ideas
[19:32] <charlie-tca> that would be great! first impressions count, thus the front page thing... 
[19:32] <Unit193> I gave a link of the main screen, can I help anymore?
[19:51] <pleia2> k, front page screenshot updated
[19:53] <charlie-tca> Thank you
[19:54] <charlie-tca> now I can go to "I don't care so much until we get things changed over"?
[19:54] <pleia2> hm?
[19:55] <pleia2> we'll be copying all the pages over to wordpress, so no effort on improving the content and screenshots now is wasted
[19:55] <charlie-tca> I can wait for almost everything until we get the website changed over to wordpress
[19:55] <charlie-tca> right
[19:55] <charlie-tca> I don't see any issues with that
[19:56] <pleia2> :)
[19:58] <pleia2> ochosi: if you could get the screenshots with the pretty grey backdrop on http://xubuntu.org/tour that'd be great (I can do straight screenshots, but I am useless with effects)
[20:15] <ochosi> pleia2: what pretty grey backdrop are you thinking of?
[20:15] <pleia2> ochosi: on /tour the images have fuzzy grey borders
[20:15] <pleia2> or shadows
[20:15] <ochosi> you mean the shadow?
[20:15] <pleia2> whatever they are called :)
[20:15] <ochosi> ah :)
[20:16] <ochosi> anywho, if you can give me clean screener i can always add the shadow
[20:16] <ochosi> atm i'm busy helping other people around to install xubuntu
[20:16] <ochosi> (in rl, not on irc ;) )
[20:17] <pleia2> ok, thanks
[21:45] <pleia2> ochosi: http://people.ubuntu.com/~lyz/xubuntu/natty/
[21:45] <pleia2> let me know if you want more :) for /tour
[21:46] <pleia2> (no rush, I just had some time during lunch so I got these done)
[21:52] <knome> n-xubuntu-sc.png has crap at the left side?
[21:52] <knome> as well as -sc2
[21:52] <pleia2> the "n" ?
[21:52] <knome> yup
[21:52] <pleia2> yeah, ochosi will clean these up before we post them on the site
[21:52] <knome> right, good
[21:53] <knome> well... the firefox shot isn't perfect either (the shadow seems to be cut, which is harder to fix)
[21:54] <pleia2> yeah, I may need to redo some to get things perfect
[21:59] <knome> i have an idea.
[22:00] <knome> why don't we just drop #xubuntu-offtopic, and try to allow more chatter in #xubuntu while there is no support issues, and we'd get a more active #xubuntu altogether
[22:01] <pleia2> I don't have a problem with doing a trial of this
[22:01] <knome> i'm proposing this only because #xubuntu is already quite relaxed, and even if users were pointed to -offtopic, they rarely stay there, which means that channel is not going to be active, ever
[22:02] <knome> well of course this needs to be discussed broader, but right now it just seems we're hitting our heads against the wall telling people not to say anything in #xubuntu
[22:02]  * pleia2 nods
[22:02] <knome> of course, we could try to keep the discussion somewhat related to xubuntu/linux, so we don't go to subjects like politics...
[22:02] <knome> (though that might relate :P)
[22:03] <pleia2> even in #ubuntu-offtopic they ask people to avoid religion, politics
[22:03] <knome> sure
[22:03] <pleia2> !o4o
[22:03] <knome> isn't that in the ubuntu CoC
[22:03] <knome> ah, it was the freenode policy
[22:03] <knome> which kind of wasn't so positive regarding pol/rel
[22:04] <pleia2> wouldn't be a problem if people could act like grown ups :x
[22:04] <knome> heh
[22:04] <knome> sure
[22:14] <knome> sent mail to dev ML
[22:45] <knome> ugh. sent three mails there
[22:59] <Unit193> knome: I like the idea of putting -offtopic in #xubuntu, but did you see your emlail?
[23:00] <knome> did i see my email? :)
[23:00] <knome> or do you mean - did i read the reply from charlie, which i already replied?
[23:02]  * Unit193 didn't get that yet