| kubu2 | I wonder where is the missing semicolon here | 00:08 |
|---|---|---|
| kubu2 | kbuildsycoca4(2415) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry Categories in "/usr/share/applications/im-switch.desktop" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). | 00:08 |
| kubu2 | last entry is = NotShowIn=GNOME;KDE; | 00:10 |
| yofel | I do get things like | 00:13 |
| yofel | kbuildsycoca4(781) KConfigGroup::readXdgListEntry: List entry x-scheme-handler/trash in "/home/yofel/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list" is not compliant with XDG standard (missing trailing semicolon). | 00:13 |
| yofel | but not the one you get, here's the im-switch.desktop file: http://paste.kde.org/41761/ | 00:13 |
| apachelogger | kubu2: in Categories one owuld suppose ^^ | 00:13 |
| apachelogger | Categories=Settings | 00:13 |
| apachelogger | that is still missing a trailing semicolon | 00:14 |
| yofel | true | 00:14 |
| kubu2 | yofel: we have the same file | 00:14 |
| apachelogger | yofel: you'll need to do nonincremental to get warnings for all files I suppose | 00:14 |
| yofel | right, that gives me several warnings now | 00:15 |
| kubu2 | apachelogger: you are right, added the extra semicolon and error disappeared | 00:16 |
| * apachelogger hopes that is not supposed to suggest that apachelogger could be wrong :P | 00:17 | |
| kubu2 | apachelogger: hope so too..just couldn't figure out why the other entries don't need one? | 00:19 |
| apachelogger | kubu2: because the specification demands it :P | 00:20 |
| yofel | it's not like those errors actually break anything, do they? | 00:20 |
| apachelogger | yofel: they can | 00:22 |
| apachelogger | "Some keys can have multiple values. In such a case, the value of the key is specified as a plural: for example, string(s). The multiple values should be separated by a semicolon, and the value of the key should have a semicolon as trailing character. Semicolons in these values need to be escaped using \;." | 00:23 |
| yofel | ah | 00:23 |
| apachelogger | therefore a parser implementation could look like: getline, getlastchar in line, is char semicolon -> advanced parsing; else simple parsing | 00:23 |
| apachelogger | where simple parsing would be something like "find '=' and split into two element array" | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | advanced parsing would consequently have multiple elements or something | 00:24 |
| apachelogger | for KDE and GNOME however it does not make a difference as the parsers are robust enough | 00:25 |
| ScottK | Correctness is a worthy goal all on its own though. | 00:25 |
| apachelogger | sure | 00:25 |
| kubu2 | may not break but the results may not be as expected as in except: abort | 00:25 |
| apachelogger | the desktop spec is also implemented on mobile phones (think maemo) | 00:26 |
| apachelogger | on those machines you might explicitly want to trade robustness for speed | 00:26 |
| apachelogger | kubu2: no, in the parser scenario I suggested it would break | 00:26 |
| apachelogger | if the desktop file is a menu entry, than the categories list would be responsible to decide what menu category this entry should be part of | 00:27 |
| apachelogger | using the parser I suggsted Categories=Utilities;Qt will result in the category being identified as "Utilities;Qt" | 00:28 |
| apachelogger | of course such a category does not exist -> menu entry shows up in not-assigned or does not show up at all | 00:28 |
| apachelogger | I feel my english is getting ever so bad | 00:28 |
| * apachelogger prepares for bed | 00:28 | |
| kubu2 | good nite apachelogger | 00:29 |
| c2tarun | anyone created oneiric chroot successfully? | 00:29 |
| yofel | c2tarun: mine created fine using de.archive.ubuntu.com | 00:30 |
| c2tarun | yofel: here is mine output http://paste.kde.org/41851/ | 00:30 |
| ScottK | I created one too. | 00:31 |
| * ScottK was using archive.ubuntu.com. | 00:31 | |
| yofel | c2tarun: no idea, try again | 00:31 |
| c2tarun | yofel: trying now with amd64 arch | 00:31 |
| yofel | oh cool, ppa.launchpad.net bandwitdh just recovered :D | 00:31 |
| c2tarun | again same Packages.bz2 is corrupted. | 00:32 |
| ScottK | Only seven hours to build boost on armel. | 00:33 |
| ScottK | Fun. | 00:33 |
| ScottK | c2tarun: That's a sign the the mirror is still incomplete. | 00:33 |
| ScottK | ... that the ... | 00:33 |
| c2tarun | ScottK: hmm.... maybe I'll try later :) | 00:34 |
| yofel | yeah but... | 00:34 |
| yofel | W: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/oneiric/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 was corrupt | 00:34 |
| ScottK | And then a bit later it wasn't, right? | 00:34 |
| ScottK | archive.ubuntu.com is ~a dozen physical systems. It wasn't complete on all of them a bit ago. | 00:34 |
| * yofel wonders when ddebs.ubuntu.com will get packages or oneiric | 00:35 | |
| c2tarun | I am creating oneiric chroot again and I found this warning "W: Couldn't download package apt" can this be a problem? | 01:06 |
| ryanakca | c2tarun: I would assume so. I'd wait a few hours and try again | 01:12 |
| DarkwingDuck | nixternal: ping | 02:52 |
| JontheEchidna | http://imgur.com/HQKIa | 04:03 |
| JontheEchidna | photoshopped, but, well :) | 04:04 |
| ScottK | Don't miss http://imgur.com/gallery/OIKFN | 04:11 |
| ScottK | This one is more on topic for today though: http://i.imgur.com/NB05u.png | 04:15 |
| JontheEchidna | haha, seen both today | 04:21 |
| JontheEchidna | I may spend too much time internetting | 04:21 |
| nigelb | ScottK: heh, good one | 04:33 |
| liveuserx | hi I have a question about ubiquity | 05:20 |
| ScottK | liveuserx: #ubuntu-installer is the best channel for that, but it's the weekend after release week, so have patience. | 05:37 |
| liveuserx | ScottK: Thanks! I am trying to figure out how to install it :) I only have a 3.5gb ssd hd on my netbook, and I should be able to get it on here and my sd card... but the installer does not let me override it's stupidity | 05:39 |
| liveuserx | er... simplicity | 05:39 |
| ScottK | Ah. | 05:43 |
| ScottK | I thought you had a development question. | 05:43 |
| liveuserx | well, it is kinda ;) | 05:43 |
| ScottK | Did you try the manual partitioning option? | 05:44 |
| liveuserx | It will not let me get to that | 05:44 |
| ScottK | What happens? | 05:44 |
| liveuserx | it shows me a red x and tells me I don't have a 3.8gb hd and it does not show the next button.. only back and quit | 05:44 |
| ScottK | Where does it fail? | 05:44 |
| liveuserx | before hd partitioning | 05:44 |
| ScottK | Interesting as it's actual minimum size requirements are less than 3.8. | 05:45 |
| ScottK | It's ~3.5. | 05:45 |
| liveuserx | right after selecting language | 05:45 |
| liveuserx | I absolutely cannot use either of the netbook interfaces, | 05:46 |
| ScottK | The partitioning choice is next. | 05:46 |
| liveuserx | it did not get there | 05:46 |
| ScottK | Did you try the alternate CD? | 05:46 |
| liveuserx | No | 05:46 |
| liveuserx | regular dvd put on usb | 05:46 |
| ScottK | It's got lower minimums and more options. | 05:46 |
| liveuserx | .. cd | 05:46 |
| liveuserx | regular cd put on usb | 05:46 |
| liveuserx | sorry | 05:46 |
| ScottK | I think the alternate works with USB, but I didn't ever actually try it. | 05:47 |
| ScottK | Right. | 05:47 |
| ScottK | I do the same on my netbook. | 05:47 |
| liveuserx | This usb key worked great on my main laptop | 05:47 |
| liveuserx | then when I plugged it into my netbook, it continued on with the laptop session LOL | 05:47 |
| ScottK | If you have it set up as a persistent USB, then that's not suprising. | 05:48 |
| liveuserx | and it had the netbook interface... and It took me about 2hrs to figure out how to open dolphin, and a terminal | 05:48 |
| ScottK | The magic to decide if something is a netbook or laptop is only done on first run, but you can change it in systemsettings. | 05:48 |
| liveuserx | Very interesting feature... however, it was not persistant in it's selection of user interface | 05:48 |
| ScottK | OK. | 05:48 |
| liveuserx | and I could not figure out how to make it go back to KDE | 05:48 |
| liveuserx | instead of this netbook interface | 05:48 |
| ScottK | That's KDE. It's plasma-netbook instead of plasma-desktop. | 05:49 |
| ScottK | You can change it in systemsettings. | 05:49 |
| liveuserx | could not figure out how to get to plasma-desktop | 05:49 |
| liveuserx | ah, could not figure out how to get to that either ;) | 05:49 |
| liveuserx | trying | 05:49 |
| liveuserx | (I added a k menu) | 05:49 |
| liveuserx | and found it) | 05:49 |
| liveuserx | It was hidden under workspace under some other thing | 05:51 |
| jussi | ScottK: where in system settings? | 05:51 |
| ScottK | Well that's a good question. | 05:51 |
| ScottK | It was there in 4.5 and I'm having trouble finding it in 4.6. | 05:51 |
| liveuserx | I found it... Workspace behavior | 05:51 |
| liveuserx | then under a deeper tab workspace | 05:52 |
| ScottK | Yes. I found it too. | 05:52 |
| ScottK | Actually the same place is was in 4.5. I'd just forgotten. | 05:52 |
| liveuserx | then workspace type... desktop! If I give this to other people I will have to do a lot of work on each install | 05:52 |
| ScottK | The netbook interface is designed to work better with netbooks, so it's reasonable to run that initially on them. | 05:53 |
| liveuserx | ScottK: so you reccomend the alternate install? Do you know which | 05:53 |
| liveuserx | LOL better??? it does not work at all, windows and stuff moving unexpectedly, no way to switch between apps but alt tab... No thanks.. and it wastes screen space | 05:54 |
| liveuserx | (sorry, I will stop ranting about that) | 05:54 |
| jussi | ooh, nice. thanks | 05:55 |
| liveuserx | ScottK: do you know which file has the disk check before actual install starts? | 05:55 |
| liveuserx | pre check? | 05:55 |
| liveuserx | I did a lot of grepping | 05:55 |
| ScottK | http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/natty/kubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso is the alternate ISO. | 05:55 |
| liveuserx | I will begin downloading the torrent | 05:56 |
| ScottK | No, I've never hacked on Ubiquity internals. | 05:56 |
| ScottK | http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/natty/kubuntu-11.04-alternate-i386.iso.torrent | 05:56 |
| liveuserx | I did a lot of grepping and did not find it... | 05:56 |
| ScottK | I think it's worth filing a bug as it sounds like the check your system is failing is too strict. | 05:56 |
| liveuserx | ok | 05:57 |
| ScottK | Do ubuntu-bug ubiquity from inside the live session on the netbook. | 05:57 |
| ScottK | FWIW, I can understand how the netbook stuff doesn't work for some people. It's generally pretty well received though. | 06:02 |
| liveuserx | ok, ubuntu-bug ubiquity should work.. I started creating another launchpad account | 06:21 |
| liveuserx | it did not work.. it just created a bug report and had no place for me to type a description | 06:22 |
| ScottK | You can edit the description after if that happens. | 06:26 |
| c2tarun | ScottK: what is this page for? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-kubuntu-packaging | 06:43 |
| ScottK | It's where we will document our plans for what we will package in the next release cycle. | 06:43 |
| claydoh | ScottK: quick q: is 10.04-11.04 not a supported upgrade? | 06:49 |
| ScottK | It is not. | 06:49 |
| claydoh | ScottK: thanks | 06:50 |
| ScottK | It ~should work in theory, but it's not supported. | 06:50 |
| claydoh | maybe i'll note that on the upgrades wiki page. | 06:50 |
| liveuserx | ScottK: got the bug submitted | 06:57 |
| ScottK | Progress of a sort then. | 06:57 |
| liveuserx | ScottK: and I think my torrent is done for the alternative cd | 06:58 |
| liveuserx | ty | 06:58 |
| ScottK | Good luck. I've never personally used the alternate CD via USB, but I'm told it works. | 06:58 |
| c2tarun | what is releaase cycle? where can I get more info about it. Google is not returning anything relevant. | 07:05 |
| ScottK | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OneiricReleaseSchedule | 07:07 |
| c2tarun | I think packaging for KDE SC 4.6.3 is complete. is there anymore work around? | 08:55 |
| === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan | ||
| DarkwingDuck | What's up guys? | 08:59 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: yeah, I'm doing it | 08:59 |
| Quintasan | DarkwingDuck: Just finished eating :P | 08:59 |
| DarkwingDuck | I'm "finally" setting up my home server | 09:00 |
| * DarkwingDuck gets his dev box and 1TB of media back | 09:00 | |
| Quintasan | what the... | 09:00 |
| Quintasan | Why there is no kdeplasma-addons tarball? | 09:01 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: I guess kdeplasma-addons require kdeedu, which is giving error | 09:04 |
| DarkwingDuck | c2tarun: you figure out your issue from last night? | 09:04 |
| c2tarun | DarkwingDuck: that was due to kdeedu migrated from svn to git. yofel mailed to upstream to fix it. | 09:05 |
| DarkwingDuck | c2tarun: got ya | 09:08 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: what work are you doing BTW? | 09:10 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: There is no tarball for it | 09:19 |
| Quintasan | c2tarun: I'm downloading kdeedu, they still didnt fix the tarball? | 09:19 |
| Quintasan | What a waste of time.. | 09:20 |
| c2tarun | Quintasan: as you are kubuntu-member you can try kdel-10n :) though yofel said he'll try it after 3may :) | 09:23 |
| jussi | does anyone know if you can move the hiding panel in netbook? | 09:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | hiding panel? | 09:30 |
| jussi | DarkwingDuck: the panel that hides - its currently on the top... | 09:30 |
| jussi | either that or how to move chromes tabs to the bottom... | 09:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | jussi: it should be controlled the same as any other widget... Unlock the widgets in the panel and remove it. If you want it on the bottom create a panel on the bottom and move it down there. | 09:32 |
| jussi | DarkwingDuck: hrm... I was hping it was like a normal panel that you can move to whatever ide of the screen... | 09:34 |
| jussi | side* | 09:34 |
| DarkwingDuck | jussi: I've never actually tried to move the panel... is it movable? | 09:34 |
| DarkwingDuck | My netbook is dead | 09:34 |
| jussi | doesnt seem like it :( | 09:35 |
| jussi | its just annoying to try change tab and that annoying bar always pops up... | 09:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | Bugger | 09:38 |
| c2tarun | my system is freezing, when network-manager is trying to connect to wifi connection :( | 09:41 |
| * apachelogger dances with Nightrose | 10:01 | |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| yofel | o/ | 10:43 |
| bambee | morning | 11:02 |
| c2tarun | bambee: evening :) | 11:06 |
| debfx | apachelogger: I hope you are going to merge pkg-kde-tools from debian to make the kubuntu stuff work with the new dhmk build system :) | 11:06 |
| bambee | c2tarun: hey ;) | 11:06 |
| c2tarun | bambee: hi :) | 11:07 |
| apachelogger | debfx: me? | 11:15 |
| * apachelogger once merged and setup a bzr branch for easy merging, yet no one used it | 11:16 | |
| * apachelogger aint gonna merge it again | 11:16 | |
| apachelogger | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jpvuqj5nv6U&feature=relmfu | 11:17 |
| debfx | apachelogger: yeah, since you are the de facto kubuntu maintainer of pkg-kde-tools ;) | 11:17 |
| apachelogger | at UDS we will do the skeleton dance | 11:18 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: any good opengl intro book you can recommend? | 11:19 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: depends on what OpenGL you want to lear | 11:23 |
| mgraesslin | I would recommend OpenGL SuperBible 5th edition | 11:24 |
| mgraesslin | and I have a summary in community.kde.org | 11:24 |
| mgraesslin | apachelogger: http://community.kde.org/KWin/Hacking#Books | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | ah | 11:24 |
| apachelogger | mgraesslin: merci beaucoup | 11:24 |
| mgraesslin | no problem | 11:24 |
| mgraesslin | and reminds me: I need to blog about it :-) | 11:25 |
| debfx | apachelogger: the upstream branch import is broken anyway | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | oh that reminds me I need to comment on a comment | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | debfx: launchpad, why do you fail us! | 11:25 |
| apachelogger | debfx: looks like shitty lp? | 11:26 |
| apachelogger | probably just need to ask nicely for someone to try again | 11:26 |
| debfx | not sure, either it's lp or bzr | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | or the url | 11:27 |
| apachelogger | git://git.debian.org/pkg-kde/pkg-kde-tools.git is what lord debian has to say | 11:28 |
| debfx | no, the url is fine | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | not here :P | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | me@avatar:/tmp$ git clone git://git.debian.org/git/pkg-kde/pkg-kde-tools.git. | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | Cloning into pkg-kde-tools.git.... | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | fatal: The remote end hung up unexpectedly | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | ah | 11:28 |
| apachelogger | pointy pointy little star, launchpad has no usability lidida | 11:28 |
| bambee | apachelogger: do you speak french ? | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | debfx: I blame pyth0rn | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | bambee: un peu | 11:29 |
| bambee | :) | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | actually I didn't speak french in like a really long time | 11:29 |
| bambee | apachelogger: tu parles bien ;) | 11:29 |
| apachelogger | ^^ | 11:30 |
| bambee | ^^ | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | debfx: you should spit fire in #launchpad | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | see how that goes | 11:30 |
| apachelogger | I meanwhile shall try to use a framebuffer without actually fully understanding what it does and how to fill it with textures ^^ | 11:30 |
| Nightrose | apachelogger: did your not so awesome team of awesome turn awesome? | 11:40 |
| apachelogger | no | 11:41 |
| Nightrose | -.- | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | I didn't send a second mail yet though | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | as I was hoping one might turn more replying on weekends | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | clearly not the case | 11:41 |
| Nightrose | *nod* | 11:41 |
| apachelogger | oh | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: how about a simple "Did my last mail not arrive?"? | 11:47 |
| Nightrose | sure | 11:47 |
| apachelogger | Nightrose: I'll bcc you, maybe you will reply to my mail ^^ | 11:48 |
| Nightrose | :P | 11:48 |
| apachelogger | video & GL is quite twisted | 11:50 |
| DarkwingDuck | dammit | 11:55 |
| apachelogger | DarkwingDuck: sup? | 11:58 |
| Quintasan | sup? | 11:58 |
| yofel | already awake? ^^ | 11:59 |
| Quintasan | me? | 11:59 |
| yofel | nope, DarkwingDuck | 11:59 |
| Quintasan | hmm | 11:59 |
| yofel | Quintasan: hi anyway ;) | 11:59 |
| * Quintasan should update moar packages | 11:59 | |
| Quintasan | yofel: \o | 11:59 |
| Quintasan | but well, food comes first, can't do anything on an empty stomach | 11:59 |
| yofel | which reminds me, I've got an updated kaffeine package lying around, and we need to get kdbg into oneiric | 12:01 |
| yofel | kdbg would be a debian sync IIRC | 12:02 |
| Quintasan | WHY | 12:31 |
| Quintasan | WHY | 12:31 |
| Quintasan | WHY | 12:31 |
| Quintasan | DAMN IT | 12:31 |
| * Quintasan broke a little bit inside | 12:31 | |
| praveen | hello everyone | 15:36 |
| Riddell | hi praveen | 15:39 |
| yofel | Riddell: I just noticed you forgot to upload libpodofo to lucid-backports for scribus-ng back then (bug 686319) - now scribus-ng is stuck in dep-wait | 15:41 |
| yofel | (sorry, totally forgot to verify that back then) | 15:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 686319 in maverick-backports "Please backport scribus-ng 1.4.0.dfsg~rc1-1 to lucid and maverick" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/686319 | 15:41 |
| praveen | i have installed kubuntu 11.04 using wubi | 15:44 |
| praveen | but when i am booting my system it is showing an error "No wubildr" | 15:44 |
| praveen | and i am not able to open kubuntu... | 15:45 |
| praveen | what to do??? | 15:45 |
| Riddell | praveen: user support is in #ubuntu and #kubuntu | 15:46 |
| praveen | sorry riddell, but nobody is giving any ans...can you tell me some other channels??? | 15:47 |
| Riddell | praveen: see kubuntu.org/support for the various support methods | 15:52 |
| praveen | thanks !!! | 15:52 |
| apachelogger | nhandler: pingy | 16:08 |
| yuriy | congratulations everyone! | 16:10 |
| Riddell | yofel: will look at that bug next week | 16:14 |
| yofel | ok, thanks | 16:16 |
| === smarter_ is now known as smarter | ||
| === ximion1 is now known as ximion | ||
| shadeslayer | yofel: do you remember what package qtscriptgenerator was in? | 17:33 |
| shadeslayer | iirc we were looking at it for Neon | 17:34 |
| shadeslayer | !find qtscriptgenerator | 17:34 |
| ubottu | Package/file qtscriptgenerator does not exist in natty | 17:34 |
| yofel | !info qtscriptgenerator | 17:35 |
| ubottu | Package qtscriptgenerator does not exist in natty | 17:35 |
| * yofel hits ubottu for not knowing source packages | 17:35 | |
| yofel | the source is qtscriptgenerator in any case | 17:35 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: you want to do it? I have it on my todo list, but not before UDS probably | 17:36 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: compiling amarok :P | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | i thought it was packaged | 17:43 |
| yofel | well, amarok is un | 17:43 |
| shadeslayer | haha :D | 17:43 |
| yofel | *requires qtscriptgenerator | 17:43 |
| Riddell | can't amarok just use the qtscriptgenerator from the archives? | 17:47 |
| Riddell | random e-mail du jour http://paste.kde.org/43411/ | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: thats what i'm trying to find ... i can't find qtscriptgenerator in the archives | 17:48 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: that's the source, the binaries have lib* names | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | and the archives are hit pretty hard :) | 17:48 |
| Riddell | afiestas__: any advice on what to say to http://paste.kde.org/43411/ ? he's got a problem with bluetooth and strigi | 17:48 |
| shadeslayer | Riddell: that is a *strange* problem tbh :D | 17:49 |
| yofel | archive qtscriptgenerator can't seem to be used with our Qt, the amarok example simply can't find some of the modules | 17:50 |
| Quintasan | shadeslayer,yofel,Riddell: apparently not, I have installed all binary packages from qtscriptgenerator in our repos and it still refused to find it | 17:51 |
| ScottK | Riddell: You need a standard "I'm on rotation to the bzr team" reply. | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | :( | 17:52 |
| Riddell | ScottK: hmm, not a bad idea | 17:52 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: you look like you completed your project already | 18:10 |
| shadeslayer | and you're scaring me | 18:10 |
| ScottK | Isn't that the trick with GSoC? | 18:13 |
| ScottK | Write up a proposal that sounds horribly complex and will take all summer, but in reality you can bang out in an afternoon. | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | *nod* | 18:14 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yofel: Quintasan nigelb and here i was thinking only wiki.ubuntu.com did it : http://i.imgur.com/o4U1j.png | 18:30 |
| nigelb | bwahaha | 18:31 |
| yofel | lol | 18:31 |
| ScottK | Facebook's is "Internal error, failed to sell your private data". | 18:33 |
| nhandler | apachelogger: Did you need something? | 18:34 |
| shadeslayer | mgraesslin: around to answer a question about kwin? | 18:42 |
| afiestas__ | Riddell: the only thing In common I can think of is the usage of dbus... | 18:44 |
| afiestas__ | (between Bluetooth and nepomuk indexer) | 18:44 |
| * yofel goes rebuilding the newer intel driver from debian to see if it fixes his kwin issues | 18:44 | |
| afiestas__ | so not sure what's the solution :/ | 18:44 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: kwin issues like? | 18:48 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: several effects resulting in refresh rates of ~0.5 FPS? | 18:48 |
| shadeslayer | ( i just have a nasty issue of not being able to resize konsole ) | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | ouch | 18:49 |
| ScottK | afiestas__: I've been subscribing you to some specs I thought you would find interesting. I hope that's OK. | 18:49 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: when i move windows around, FPS drops to 15 :/ | 18:50 |
| yofel | yeah, just for me kwin immediately disables the desktop effects if I don't disable functionality checks since it far too slow | 18:51 |
| yofel | Xrender works fine, and if I disable the 5 effects that xrender doesn't support opengl works fine too again | 18:51 |
| shadeslayer | yep same here | 18:52 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you mean facebook is actually based on moinmoin? | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: who knows... it could be | 18:53 |
| shadeslayer | we shall nevar know | 18:53 |
| afiestas__ | ScottK: no problem | 18:54 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: you are scaring me | 18:54 |
| apachelogger | stop it | 18:54 |
| ScottK | Facebook is not slow enough for moinmoin. | 18:54 |
| shadeslayer | no *you* are scaring me | 18:54 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: maybe they optimized it? :P | 18:55 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: apachelogger scares everyone. Get over it. | 18:55 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: Not possible. | 18:55 |
| shadeslayer | oh .. its probably based off java | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | I am the darth vader of programming. | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | Whereas Kent Beck is the emperor of programming. | 18:55 |
| apachelogger | suprisingly enough we both are jahava witnesses | 18:55 |
| * ScottK was speaking of the Disney mouse princess thing re scaring. | 18:57 | |
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| apachelogger | how is that like scaring? | 18:59 |
| ScottK | It was scary. | 18:59 |
| apachelogger | oh, perfect use of the new lingo I am learning | 18:59 |
| * ScottK may be scarred for life. | 18:59 | |
| apachelogger | you are all sorts of hating on my, like wtf, srsly man | 18:59 |
| apachelogger | this is highly inefficient... a lot of words for no good reason -.- | 18:59 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: lol :D | 18:59 |
| * ScottK is kidding. I'll lay off if it bugs you. | 19:00 | |
| apachelogger | nhandler: I was wondering if there is any chance whatsoever to get overlord control over a channel without having the previous owner around | 19:00 |
| ScottK | Now that nixternal is no longer pretending to be active and shadeslayer's not in exams, what do I have left? | 19:00 |
| nhandler | apachelogger: What channel? | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | ScottK: shadeslayer got assignments now | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | didnt you read it the other day | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | none | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | nhandler: #phonon | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | now | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: ScottK sem over ... i'm free for about 3 days now \o/ | 19:01 |
| shadeslayer | then i got exams again :P | 19:01 |
| apachelogger | nhandler: the current owner and previous maintainer of phonon is kinda MIA | 19:01 |
| ScottK | And it'll take you three days to get there as heavy as your laptop is. | 19:02 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: ^^^ | 19:02 |
| ScottK | So that doesn't actually add up to time to do something useful. | 19:02 |
| nhandler | apachelogger: You should read http://blog.freenode.net/2010/06/group-registration-form-verifications/ and send an email to grfprocess@freenode.net . Poke me if you don't get a response in a day or two, and I'll poke the people handling those requests | 19:02 |
| shadeslayer | heh :P | 19:02 |
| apachelogger | nhandler: kthx :) | 19:03 |
| apachelogger | oh | 19:03 |
| nhandler | apachelogger: No problem. | 19:03 |
| * shadeslayer is subscribes to specs | 19:03 | |
| apachelogger | nhandler: actually, would it all be possible to have it covered by the KDE group? | 19:03 |
| apachelogger | cause technically it belongs under the same management umbrella | 19:03 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: subscribe me to some too | 19:04 |
| shadeslayer | sure will do | 19:04 |
| apachelogger | I realize ScottK already made me important :D | 19:04 |
| apachelogger | ScottK++ | 19:04 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: Can you make a spec for mobile? | 19:04 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-O | 19:04 |
| ScottK | or maybe rbelem? ^^^ | 19:04 |
| apachelogger | I have plenty of things to make specs for | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | but | 19:05 |
| * apachelogger left his notebook in Graz | 19:05 | |
| shadeslayer | oh | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | that is why the cloud is the nice | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | they say 420 in 2012 | 19:05 |
| apachelogger | though I am going to Graz tomorrow, so can do it Monday | 19:05 |
| ScottK | OK. | 19:05 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: i might be coming to the DS via Austria :D | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: 420 spaceships? | 19:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: " ... 420 copies of his book ... " | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: make sure to pick me up, cause I have not planned the trip yet and will probably fail to do so until a week before or so | 19:06 |
| apachelogger | which reminds me that I should nicely ask around for sponsorship | 19:06 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: yeah i have figure out stuff now because i have send a estimate of the costs | 19:07 |
| apachelogger | "dear red hat inc., would you consider sending me to berlin so I can get wasted and stuff? kindest regards, phononoverlord" | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | heh | 19:07 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: btw about KDE Telepathy, they're going to have a tech preview nextish month | 19:21 |
| shadeslayer | ( in regards to desktop-o-kubuntu-packaging ) | 19:23 |
| nhandler | apachelogger: You would need to talk to the KDE Group Contact about that. | 19:24 |
| mgraesslin | shadeslayer: now I can answer kwin related questions | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | mgraesslin: hey :D ... all my other windows except konsole resize fine | 19:29 |
| shadeslayer | when i resize konsole i get artefacts ... would this be a kwin bug or a driver bug? | 19:29 |
| mgraesslin | konsole is an argb window | 19:30 |
| shadeslayer | i have the nvidia driver | 19:30 |
| mgraesslin | so most likely driver bug - works fine here ;-) | 19:30 |
| shadeslayer | mgraesslin: oh .. and what are the other windows? | 19:30 |
| mgraesslin | well problem could be that nvidia released the driver just to get it working with ubuntu, probably with bugs | 19:31 |
| mgraesslin | other windows are just rgb | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | hmm | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | 270.29-0ubuntu3 was hell tho | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | freeze every couple of secs etc | 19:32 |
| mgraesslin | well xorg changed the abi one day before the new release by that destroying the already finished nvidia driver... | 19:33 |
| nixternal | ScottK: i never pretend | 19:37 |
| yofel | well, that konsole resizing bug is against nvidia now in launchpad | 19:38 |
| shadeslayer | hmmm | 19:47 |
| ScottK | nixternal: OK. It's less fun taunting you about it now. How about that? | 19:53 |
| ScottK | shadeslayer: I think for this cycle we need to focus on core stuff since Riddell will have less time. | 19:54 |
| ScottK | That, of course, doesn't stop anyone from working on it if they want. | 19:54 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: so, are you bringing fezes to UDS? | 20:00 |
| shadeslayer | ScottK: yes, and telepathy KDE is still not ready for prime time, altho, it is much easier to configure accounts in telepathy kde as compared to kopete | 20:10 |
| ScottK | apachelogger: You are being emulated: https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-o-default-browser | 20:20 |
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