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trentgHello00:17
trentgAnybody know why I get connection refused trying to connect/upload to ppa.launchpad.net?00:18
trentgUsing ftp, using sftp or scp it times out.00:18
penguin42trentg: It broke00:18
trentgOh00:18
trentgAny ideas when it might be back online?00:19
oojah_It worked for me just now.00:21
elmoit's back online at the moment00:21
kri0This is kinda offtopic, but does anyone one know if there is a bug tracker that allows setting a bounty for a bug, real money? )00:22
trentgThanks, it's working now00:23
kri0for an open source project00:25
penguin42kri0: There are bug bounty sites out there - never used ones; of course there are also places that youc an buy support (as you say OT)00:29
kri0yeah, i see some 'bug bounty programs' from different vendors, what i'd like is to have a reverse 'bounty option' built-in to a tracker. That is, when someone submits a bug he would really like to see fixed, he could assing a bounty from his pocket, not the vendors. and others to be able to chip in micropayment like. The bounty goes to the developer who fixes it.00:40
MTecknologyGAH!!!01:54
MTecknologyI build perfect in a pbuilder environment; but breaks right near the tail end on lp01:54
AmpelbeinMTecknology: do you have a buildlog?01:55
MTecknologyhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/70703826/buildlog_ubuntu-maverick-amd64.nginx_1.0.0-svn3185-ppa205~maverick1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz01:55
MTecknologyAmpelbein: builds nginx-light and nginx-full great; almost finishes nginx-extras; poof01:56
MTecknologyaah........01:58
MTecknologyit's missing from the pushed branch01:58
MTecknologythat'll make a big difference. :P01:59
MTecknologywow!02:24
MTecknologyestimated time until build.... on 2011-05-0102:24
reviczkyHi, I'm trying to make a launchpad-recipe, merging 2 branches. They have partially common folders, but no common files, like branch1: test/file1 and branch2: test/file2. If I try "merge" I get "Branches have no common ancestor", if I try "nest-part" I get "ERROR: Conflicts from merge" It's somewhat bug #515731, but not packaging related. Any solutions or workarounds? I have to keep the branches separately.02:37
ubot5Launchpad bug 515731 in bzr-builder "Support merge of two branches that have no common ancestor" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51573102:37
wgrantreviczky: Why must they be set up like that?02:40
wgrantThat sounds like an awful mess :(02:40
reviczkybecause they are two different projects02:40
MTecknologyeven messier than the recipes I needed to come up with :P02:40
wgrantreviczky: And you have to merge the trees at the same level to build?02:41
reviczkyyes02:41
wgrantWhy?02:41
reviczkyso I'm importint the code into launchpad, 2 different branches, and one is the main containing the program, the others are extension modules that needs to be there at build time02:42
wgrantYou can't include them as a subdirectory instead?02:42
reviczkythe use the same folder structure02:42
reviczkyscripts/... doc/.. are all shared02:42
reviczkybut no conflicts02:42
wgrantWell, there are conflicts :)02:42
wgrantJust not file conflicts.02:42
reviczkyyeah, thats what i mean02:43
MTecknologya directory is a conflict the same as a file02:43
reviczkyi see02:43
reviczkyuntil now i was merging by hand, means copying together, i wanted to have some automation02:43
MTecknologya copy isn't a merge02:43
MTecknologya merge is for branches that separated02:44
wgrantreviczky: How do you normally build it during development?02:44
wgrantreviczky: Having to manually merge two trees together sounds like a terrible task.02:44
reviczkywell this is what i did until now, by hand:02:44
reviczkygetting the two branches02:44
reviczkycopying them together02:44
reviczkyadd the debian tree02:44
reviczkyand build02:44
reviczkyso i could do the same in 1 branch02:45
reviczkybut it since they are maintained deparately it would be nicer to hve them in separate branches02:45
wgrantIt seems like a fairly bad idea to be trying to merge two trees together like that.02:45
MTecknologythe branches?02:45
wgrantThey should either be one branch, separate packages, or one should be in a subdirectory of the other.02:45
reviczkywhat does the Fix commited in bug 515731 mean? is it solved? how? is it available on the launchpad buildfarm?02:46
ubot5Launchpad bug 515731 in bzr-builder "Support merge of two branches that have no common ancestor" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/51573102:46
wgrantIt's not available on Launchpad yet.02:47
MTecknologyreviczky: what branches?02:47
reviczkyso this is what i have right now: https://code.launchpad.net/context-beta02:47
reviczkyits more then 2 branches, but that doesnt matter02:47
wgrantWhat's the difference between /context and /context-beta?02:48
reviczkythat this uses an experimental tree02:48
wgrantIt should probably not be a separate project unless it's a fork, but OK.02:49
reviczkyi have some own modifications02:49
reviczkybut yeah, ive noticed that02:49
reviczkybut until i dont really have it working, i just wanted to experiment with the repices02:49
wgrantreviczky: Is there a good reason to not have the separate trees as separate packages?02:50
wgrantA reasonable rule is that one source tree => one source package02:50
MTecknologyreviczky: something like that... each separate module you're building should be in it's own sib directory and your packaging should handle bringing the process together, even better - the vompile process .. (assuming these are modules)02:50
wgrants/rule/guideline/02:50
wgrantOr that, yes.02:51
reviczkyhmm, right, i can do that02:51
reviczkythanks, im gonna give that a try02:51
wgrantreviczky: I would really encourage you to use the existing https://launchpad.net/context project instead.02:52
reviczkyok, im gonna get in touch with them02:52
wgrantYou can just push branches up there.02:53
reviczkyi see02:53
reviczkythe problem is also btw, that they dont have a version controlled source code ...02:55
reviczkyand that wont change in the near future02:55
wgrantThat is quite spectacular.02:55
reviczkyso i have to import the code myself or with a script02:56
wgrant:/02:56
reviczkyand this is why id like to have the branches separate, because i would loose the overview02:56
wgrantI guess this explains why it seems somewhat insane and completely VCS-unfriendly.02:57
reviczkyright, so using separate subdirs is fine, thanks for the help02:57
wgrant:(02:57
reviczkyyeah, its all a mess a right now :(02:57
reviczkyand it doesnt work out of the box in ubuntu anymore02:58
reviczkythats why i have some patches02:58
MTecknologywgrant: please make builds go faster! :'(03:02
MTecknologybuy 500 machines for builders!03:03
cody-somervilleMTecknology, You could use AWS yourself.04:05
MTecknologycody-somerville: hm?04:19
MTecknologycody-somerville: oh! amazon?04:20
MTecknologycody-somerville: It was building perfectly fine in my own setup; turns out i missed svn add on 3 files in obscure places04:20
cody-somervilleMTecknology, My comment was in reference to "buy 500 machines for builders!". ;)04:21
MTecknologycody-somerville: i don't think my purchase of amazon systems would help launchpad ... and i'm still struggingling to pay for taxes in the next 3 months04:22
cody-somervilleI'm suggesting using in lieu of Launchpad. It would be pretty cheap for just yourself and you could spawn as many builders as you needed.04:24
MTecknologycody-somerville: but then how would the nightly builds end up on launchpad?04:25
MTecknologyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~nginx/+recipe/nginx-nightly04:25
MTecknologyDon't ask me why I sent it to build for oneiric.....04:25
MTecknologyis the toolchain for 11.11 even close to settled yet?04:27
cody-somervilleThis probably isn't the right place to ask that.04:28
MTecknologytrue, i'd go bug in +1 but that's still closed04:28
StevenKMTecknology: *11.10*04:29
MTecknology.....04:30
MTecknologywow.... i've been calling it 11.11 for so long too04:30
MTecknologyface meets palm moment04:30
cody-somervillemaybe its a sign :)04:30
StevenKMTecknology: And if you read ubuntu-devel-announce, you'd see that doko announced 11.10 is open for uploads over eight hours ago.04:31
MTecknologycody-somerville: a sign that i need sleep?04:33
wgrantStevenK: Over eight hours ago?04:33
MTecknologyStevenK: i thought the toolchain still changed after uploads were opened04:33
wgrantStevenK: It was well over 12.04:34
wgrantMTecknology: It's mostly done before that.04:34
wgrantThere will be further minor changes, mostly after UDS.04:34
wgrantThe major toolchain changes are done in a PPA per04:34
wgrant... before release.04:34
wgrantSo the new series can be opened within hours of the previous series' release.04:34
wgrant(assuming the mirrors aren't misbehaving, which caused this one to take almost 24 hours :/)04:35
StevenKwgrant: Meh, the point is, it was multiple hours ago, so there is no point going "Geee, when does Oneiric open for uploads?"04:36
wgrantIndeed.04:36
MTecknologyStevenK: pretty sure, that's not what I asked04:39
MTecknologyI sent this to upload...04:39
StevenKMTecknology: However, wgrant answered your question anyway.04:39
MTecknologyyes, he did04:39
MTecknologyStevenK: I used to remember you being a really helpful and friendly person. :(04:41
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c_kornhello, I keep getting this error with my script: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=72urwRAa15:55
wgrantc_korn: staging's broken at the moment. You might want to use qastaging.launchpad.net for the next few days instead.16:09
c_kornhm, if I knew how to change this. I think this is the line I somehow need to configure: launchpad = Launchpad(credentials, EDGE_SERVICE_ROOT, cachedir)16:22
maxbc_korn: Thats a pretty old-style invocation of launchpadlib, what version are you using?16:51
c_kornthe version of natty I think16:55
c_kornInstalled: 1.9.7-0ubuntu216:56
maxbc_korn: OK, for your immediate issue, pass 'qastaging' instead of EDGE_SERVICE_ROOT17:12
c_kornmaxb: ok, this works now, launchpad = Launchpad.login_with('My Application', 'production'). thanks for the hint17:12
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MTecknologymy day wait for build is almost up :D20:18
timrc    0 source packages (5.3 KiB)21:08
timrcseems odd to me that 0 source packages takes up 5.3 KiB of space :)21:09
timrcperhaps due to lazy package deletion?21:09
cody-somervilletimrc, indexes probably count21:22
akoskmhi! can anybody help my in using my existing gpg key. debsign returns with "...secret key not available" even if my key is showing up in gpg --list-keys22:06
lifelessIf I remember gpg --edit-secret <email>22:07
lifelesswill let you see that22:07
akoskmhmm. it says invalid options22:08
lifelesscheck the help :)22:12
lifeless[sorry I'm not all that helpful, I'm really not here today]22:13
maxbakoskm: Try gpg --list-secret-keys22:13
akoskmjust tried, that shows nothing22:14
maxbakoskm: That would imply you have no secret keys available in your current keyring22:16
akoskmwhat I did was # gpg --search-keys akoskm, it listed me I selected that entry22:16
akoskmmaxb: indeed. what should I do to add the secret key too?22:16
maxbWhere is your secret key currently stored?22:16
akoskmin ~/.ssh/22:17
maxbYour GPG key is stored in your ~/.ssh/ ? I am sceptical22:17
akoskmif that one is which end with .asc22:17
akoskmI'm not really sure in these terms, just followed the guide on launchpad..22:18
maxbWhich guide?22:19
akoskmwhere I can modify the OpenPGP keys22:19
akoskmthere were the instructions to create and upload the key22:19
akoskmI did that and signed my packages so far successfully22:20
maxbakoskm: I'm fairly sure none of that would have told you to put OpenPGP keys in ~/.ssh, because that would just be weirdly confusing22:20
maxbWell, what have you changed since you last signed a package successfully?22:21
akoskmupgraded my ubuntu to natty22:21
akoskmso I suppose some things were gone22:21
maxbDid this involve doing anything destructive to your home directory?22:21
akoskmno, it is on a separate drive22:22
akoskmhere is the message what I'm getting at the end of debuild: http://pastebin.com/6eMP9pfX22:25
akoskmand my key is uploaded to http://keyserver.ubuntu.com/22:25
maxbThis seems to indicate that you have somehow lost your secret key from where it should be stored in ~/.gnupg/secring.gpg22:26
akoskmIndeed, all files in that directory were created today. :/22:31
maxbOh dear.22:32
maxbDid you have a backup?22:32
Ampelbeinakoskm: just a wild guess, is the filesystem with your home mounted? as you indicated it is on a seperate drive.22:33
akoskmfrom that directory? no.22:33
akoskmAmpelbein: it is22:33
akoskm:)22:33
Ampelbeinakoskm: ok, I had the same problem once, wondered where all my stuff is gone ;-)22:33
akoskmmaxb: so, if there is no backup about that directory I can't use my key, it is simple like that?22:40
maxbyes22:40
maxbYou will have to generate a new one from scratch, and redo all setup steps involved.22:40
akoskmhmm22:41
akoskmcan I sign the code of conduct with one account twice?22:41
maxb(and there is no way to remove your old key from the public keyservers, ever)22:41
maxbOh, you can skip the CoC step - your old signature still counts for that22:44
akoskmmaxb: thank you, I'll back up my key next time ;)23:00

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