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achiangtimholum: looks to be written in Vala00:00
achiangtimholum: sounds like it, but i am far from authoritative. you might be able to find better answers in #ubuntu-desktop00:01
achiangtimholum: plus, it's friday afternoon for many geographies, including mine. :)00:01
achiangtimholum: good luck00:01
timholum:) thanks :), just knowing the terminology of what I am looking for will help a ton00:01
timholumwho know's maybe someone has already written what I am looking for, if there are 3rd party lens's out there00:02
LaneyScottK: yay00:05
* Laney becomes a little red person00:05
bdmurray@pilot out00:22
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afederdoes any ubuntu one devs hang out here? or is it elsewhere?01:47
Saammi got a problem with software center where do i report02:33
arandSaamm: run "ubuntu-bug software-center" presumably02:34
Saammok can someone tell me if this is happening to anyone else? Software Center Shows 0 Rating for Chromium...But when click on more info it shows 121 raqting...02:36
brycehSaamm, no, I see it says '82 ratings' when listed, clicked on, or doubleclicked for more info.  Seems consistent to me.02:38
Saammbryceh, i dont know I think there is a bug that it shows ratings more than 100 as 0. My chromium says 121 ratings02:40
ScottKSaamm: #ubuntu is the support channel.02:43
SaammScottK, ok02:43
bluefoxicyokay, so after the upgrade something extremely stupid happened03:07
bluefoxicyand I can't figure out how to make it stop03:07
bluefoxicywhen any application tries to open a folder, it opens it with VLC03:07
bluefoxicyso if I load the old style Gnome, hit Places->Home Folder, it runs vlc on my home folder03:08
bluefoxicyI ... have no idea how to fix this.03:08
bluefoxicygot it, had to edit ~/.local/share/applications/mimeapps.list and remove the entry for (get this) deleted associations for inode.directory03:13
Saammbryceh, the rating problem is happening with GIMP also...it shows 0 but actual rating is 10703:15
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cornoAmpelbein, you here?04:59
cdbsHello all, when an autosync happens, does the -changes list get flooded?05:46
StevenKIt shouldn't.05:46
cdbshmm05:46
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cornoafter testing a fix, if you want to downgrade the package again to the latest stable version, or rather, just to put the version back before installing the fix to test06:19
cornois the best way to do this the following:  sudo apt-get install pkg=version  ?06:19
cornoi chose the version to downgrade to by first:  apt-cache showpkg pkgname06:21
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Laibschcorno: this is not the right channel for this kind of question.  FWIW, I use aptitude which allows me to graphically choose which version to install.06:32
cornoLaibsch, apologies for posting question here, in hindsight not that relevant to this channel.  just the reason why i had to do this was becuase i've done a "pbuilder-dist <release> build ../<package>_<version>.dsc" for the usb-creator tool and then installed it with dpkg from the "pbuilder" dir.  just wanted to downgrade again.06:34
LaibschSure.  I fully understand.  I hope my answer got you going in the right direction.06:35
cornoLaibsch, it sure did - appreciated.06:36
Laibschcool :-D06:36
LaibschI have a weird pbuilder problem that I hope you can help me with.  I want to recompile the latest grub2 for lucid.  I get an error "dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: libdevmapper-dev (>= 2:1.02.34) libfuse-dev mtools", yet these should be available as logging in to pbuilder shows: http://paste.debian.net/115542/07:34
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cjwatsonjcastro,ScottK: uds-organizers> done10:06
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siretartI'm going to upload libav 0.7_beta1 RSN (the successor of ffmpeg). Given its amount of reverse dependencies, I'd expect a number of changes required in other packages11:17
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ior3khey all14:06
ior3kconkeror is now marked as obsolete in synaptic (natty)14:06
ior3kdoes this mean the package has been abandoned?14:06
ScottKcjwatson: Thanks.14:30
maxbThe Ubuntu Installation Guide for natty contains a broken link to the example preseed file from the page at https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/installation-guide/amd64/appendix-preseed.html15:36
maxbWhere should I be reporting this, and is it likely that the preseed file exists somewhere else that I can look at? Or perhaps it has not actually been written?15:37
cjwatsonmaxb: IIRC ubuntu-doc maintains that part of the site (although ubuntu-installer maintains the actual manual itself).  And it certainly has been written - see e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/installation-guide/example-preseed.txt15:57
cjwatson(which can't be transferred exactly, although it's similar)15:57
hyperairhi. is there any core dev around here willing to look into a patch for samba which fixes a winbind bug that causes libc to segfault on lookups?16:18
hyperairbug #52971416:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 529714 in samba (Ubuntu Natty) "rhythmbox crashed with SIGSEGV in _nss_wins_gethostbyname_r()" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/52971416:19
thechefIs it technically possible to run two sessions on one screen concurrently (without using Xnest)?17:04
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gesercjwatson: Hi, do you want to sponsor my vim merge or should I add it to the sponsoring queue? (bug 774233)17:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 774233 in vim (Ubuntu) "Merge vim 2:7.3.154+hg~74503f6ee649-2 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77423317:14
cjwatsongeser: just add it to the queue, I certainly won't get to it until at least Tuesday and most of next week is likely to be taken up with UDS planning17:17
cjwatsonhm, merges.u.c is broken again, will have to look at that17:24
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tiagoboldtso, I'm having major issues with my wifi module, read in launchpad that fix has been commited to the kernel and will be released on the next update, any idea when will that happen? on natty19:05
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cornoi was wondering, when i want to start working on a bug, what is the best process:  to do dev in local environment and then just add a patch to the bug in LaunchPad.   or to actually push (bzr push) it to LaunchPad and then do the "Propose for merging"?19:58
cjwatsonupdate on merges.ubuntu.com: turns out there's a package in Debian that requires patch 2.6 to unpack, so I've sent an RT to upgrade the system in question to a suitable version20:02
geserjust curious: how long do such tickets usually take to get done?20:04
cjwatsonI can't say I would necessarily expect it to be done over the weekend :P20:05
cjwatsonI imagine early next week20:05
geseris was clear to me that it doesn't happen over the weekend, more if it happens during the next week, the next two weeks or even longer20:06
cjwatsonI would expect only a few days, not least because I'll pester about it once I'm actually at work ;-)20:07
dupondjeSomebody knows when a new kernel will appear in Natty ?20:11
dupondjehaving some annoying bug atm :(20:12
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geserhmm, every armel build in oneiric fails with "/usr/bin/apt-cache exit status 11"20:31
ScottKgeser: Bug #77417520:32
ubottuLaunchpad bug 774175 in apt (Ubuntu) "apt segfaults on armel in oneiric" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/77417520:32
penguin42it's in a vsnprintf so it's pretty likely the shrink wrap bug (although the 1GB memory mmap is suspicious)20:42
cjwatsonpenguin42: if it were just the shrink-wrap bug, then it surely would also have affected natty's apt built on oneiric.  ScottK tested that and ruled it out.20:48
penguin42true I guess20:49
penguin42(How do you rebuild the apt-cache in the archive if every build including the apt-cache build fails?)20:50
cjwatsonpenguin42: we would get lamont to explicitly roll back the chroots to natty's version of apt, and build apt with that20:51
penguin42ah ok20:51
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lamontcjwatson: do we have source uploaded  yet?  and is it just armel that will need the extra love?20:54
cjwatsonlamont: no20:54
cjwatsonI mean, no source uploaded yet.  just armel as far as I know ...20:54
lamontok.20:54
geserhttp://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ shows only armel having this problem20:55
Who__Are there any Mac/OS X specialists who can take a look at this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/77408921:39
ubottuUbuntu bug 774089 in Ubuntu "Booting fails 3 times, works every fourth time after new install of Natty Narwhal amd64 on Macbook Pro" [Undecided,Confirmed]21:39
Who__Apple claim that a new logic board is required to fix the issue, which is major for something that one can run in to on a close to default install21:40
Who__I presume there's a way to fix whatever boot/EFI stuff that seems to be corrupted, but the Apple Genius didn't know of one...21:41
Who__Note that I swapped out hard drives...21:41
penguin42Who__: Do you have an external monitor on - I'm just curious if something was on the external display?21:43
Who__penguin42: didn't connect one21:44
mdkeSpamapS: thanks for the -proposed love21:44
penguin42Who__: Might be worth a go, nothing to lose21:44
Who__but seeing as the network debug utility that the Apple Store use didn't even start, I think it's deeper than that21:44
Who__penguin42: I don't have the computer with me now _ I left it with them to debug21:44
Who__a shame I know, but I need it to work again reliably asap and I don't have forever to debug it!21:44
dupondjebleh :( Kernel of natty feels bugged :(21:50
MTecknologyroot@panther:/opt/chroot# chroot oneiric/21:57
MTecknologygroups: cannot find name for group ID 021:57
MTecknologyI have no name!@panther:/#21:57
MTecknologyneat...21:57
penguin42hmm and I've got an arm one in qemu, and yep apt segs there as well23:35

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