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deuxpiMobidoy: pong ?00:10
kanouksalut deuxpi 00:11
deuxpioh boisoir ! :)00:11
deuxpi^bonsoir00:11
kanouk:)00:11
Snoopyskicyphermox a t'il réussi à installer sa carte Wi-Fi sur son super portable ?00:11
deuxpi'sais pas il voulait patcher le module wireless pour qu'il accepte sa carte00:12
SnoopyskiOK, un genre de fake version ;-)00:12
deuxpimouais 00:13
deuxpiça a l'air commun avec les trucs achetés sur ebay00:14
Snoopyskilol00:14
deuxpize bug: http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199700:16
Snoopyski@d2_racing: CTRL + D ça fera l'affaire ;-)00:16
SnoopyskiHeu je voulais dire Logo Windows + D00:17
deuxpije sais pas combien $ Microsoft paie pour avoir son logo sur tous les foutus claviers... :/00:18
SnoopyskiLOL... moi je l'ai gratté pis j'ai rien gagné !!!00:20
SnoopyskiFake je vais mettre le sticker Ubuntu ! ;-)00:20
deuxpiouais il y en a deux sur les feuilles de sticker qui font bien l'affaire00:20
SnoopyskiExactement00:21
MobidoyKikou !!!! 03:16
MobidoyNon pas eu le temps de patcher le module !!! 03:16
d2_racingbonsoir04:19
Julie972bonjour les mais05:28
Julie972amis05:28
Julie972:(05:28
Julie972qqn est-il encore réveillé05:28
Julie972(une fille de la caraibe)05:28
Julie972(concincée sur son upgrade 11.04)05:28
Julie972:(05:28
Julie972pfffffffffff05:28
Julie972qqn est-il encore réveillé05:42
SnoopyskiBonne journée gang... Pis bon upgrade à ceux qui passeront de 10.10 à 11.04 en fin semaine ;-)16:03
IdleOneJe suis sur 11.10 deja16:12
IdleOne:)16:12
deuxpiIdleOne: c'est ce que je disais à cyphermox jeudi passé ;)16:34
IdleOnedeuxpi: I changed my repos to oneiric yesterday 65 packages got updated.16:35
IdleOnesee idle-one-blogspot.com16:35
IdleOneerr idle-one.blogspot.com16:35
deuxpiIdleOne: there is a bunch of gnome 3 stuff in there (ref. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/oneiric-changes/2011-April/thread.html )16:36
IdleOneanother 5 packages being updated as we speak16:36
IdleOneit is definitely not safe to upgrade16:37
IdleOnehehe16:37
deuxpiIdleOne: I'm running debian unstable, so I already have most of these updates ;)16:38
IdleOneso you know16:38
IdleOneI did the same thing with Natty. soon as the tool chain was uploaded I did an upgrade16:38
deuxpiis gcc-4.6 in ubuntu yet?16:39
IdleOnegcc:16:39
IdleOne  Installed: 4:4.6.0-3ubuntu116:39
IdleOneyup16:39
IdleOnein 11.1016:39
deuxpiok yeah :)16:40
IdleOneso basically 11.10 is Ubuntu+ Debian unstable ?16:41
deuxpiI think LTS releases are synced with debian testing, and non-LTS releases with unstable16:42
IdleOneI have to say I like Unity but I personally do not find it newbie friendly. Some settings are difficult to find if you don't know what you are looking for16:43
IdleOneI am not going to upgrade my mothers netbook, leaving it at 10.10 for now.16:43
deuxpiit's still much more than the "technology preview" some people try to pretend16:44
IdleOnenot sure what you mean16:44
IdleOneUnity is very usable but for users who like to tweak and config I understand the complaints.16:45
deuxpiI see on the mailing lists that some people don't like the change, then they tell everyone that it shouldn't have been released as is16:45
IdleOneyeah, same complaints in #ubuntu. People saying that it is broken and doesn't work, that just is not true. Unity works perfectly, it just is not finished yet so many "features" a more experienced user would expect to see are not present but they will be added.16:46
deuxpiat least we no longer hear about the buttons on the left ;)16:47
IdleOnePeople forget that non-LTS releases are almost like an unstable release where new stuff gets tested, by the time we get to 12.04 Unity will be feature full and mature16:48
deuxpiI was surprised to see a large window pop-up to suggest me to upgrade yesterday16:49
IdleOneI saw a couple of people complain about the buttons being on the left. I guess when you upgrade the default theme sets the buttons back to the left16:49
deuxpimost probably16:49
IdleOnedid you get a screenshot? I haven't seen it16:49
IdleOnethat is something new16:49
deuxpiI'll try to boot a vm16:49
IdleOneto tell you the truth I hated the buttons being on the left and now when I get on a Windows PC I find it strange that the buttons are on the right. 16:51
IdleOneit makes more sense if you really think about it. The buttons being on the left makes it faster to get to the Dash or Applications menu.16:51
deuxpiand they don't "compete" for space with the indicators when using the global menu16:52
IdleOneright16:52
IdleOnethe majority of complaints I have seen about Unity are all cosmetic complaints and the people who say it is broken don't have any technical reason to give when they say Unity is broken.16:53
IdleOneall the apps work fine, they are a little different because of the menu being moved to the top bar but that is cosmetic and is a question of getting accustom to using something a little different16:54
deuxpiprograms like gimp, that had confusing interfaces are probably just worse, but that's not necessarily unity's problem16:56
IdleOnebut gimp is not a program that is meant for the average user16:56
Musashimarugimp is moving to standrd interface16:56
IdleOnegimp has sooooooo many buttons hehe16:57
deuxpilike gnome was to let go of the windows 95 ui, gimp must let go of the photoshop ui :)16:58
IdleOneapplications like gimp are meant more for the "pro" user who knows exactly what they need to do.16:58
IdleOneI think the average user can get along just fine with F-spot or shotwell16:59
deuxpihttp://www.deuxpi.ca/natty-upgrade.png16:59
IdleOnenice, that is new right?16:59
IdleOneI don't remember ever getting a window like that16:59
deuxpime neither16:59
deuxpibut it tells the user that upgrading now is the right path17:00
deuxpiand it's not localized17:00
IdleOnenext release they should make that an animated window17:01
deuxpiit's simply a web page17:01
IdleOnea little ocelot running across the screen and you have to click on it and then the window opens :)17:01
deuxpiwow17:01
* IdleOne is full of awesome ideas17:02
deuxpiit's the /usr/lib/update-manager/check-new-release-gtk script17:02
IdleOneso it shouldn't be too difficult to implement my idea :)17:03
IdleOneimagine if you had a Narwhal swimming across your screen17:04
deuxpi(I'm trying to imaging an ocelot struggling to swim across the screen)17:05
IdleOnelol17:06
IdleOneok imagine this. The ocelot runs around the screen jumping up and trying to catch a flying ubuntu logo17:07
IdleOnewhen you click on the ocelot he jumps one last time and catches the logo, screen fades out and upgrade window pops up.17:07
deuxpiw o w17:08
IdleOnestart working on that dude :)17:08
deuxpiIf firefox has nice upgrade screens, I don't see why ubuntu couldn't have them too17:10
IdleOneexactly17:11
deuxpiand I'll be sad if ubuntu-p doesn't have ponies17:12
IdleOneif you really want to make it fancy, it can be set to use the LoCo logo of the users country17:12
deuxpimakes me think of the "We Menu"17:15
IdleOneWe menu?17:16
deuxpii'm trying to find the reference 17:17
deuxpihttps://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-wemenu17:17
deuxpiit could integrate the concept of LoCo in the system17:18
IdleOnelooks like aninteresting idea17:19
IdleOnelooks like an interesting idea*17:19
deuxpiI'm not sure about the fish bowl...17:20
JunK-Ylo guys22:04

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