[00:10] <deuxpi> Mobidoy: pong ?
[00:11] <kanouk> salut deuxpi 
[00:11] <deuxpi> oh boisoir ! :)
[00:11] <deuxpi> ^bonsoir
[00:11] <kanouk> :)
[00:11] <Snoopyski> cyphermox a t'il réussi à installer sa carte Wi-Fi sur son super portable ?
[00:12] <deuxpi> 'sais pas il voulait patcher le module wireless pour qu'il accepte sa carte
[00:12] <Snoopyski> OK, un genre de fake version ;-)
[00:13] <deuxpi> mouais 
[00:14] <deuxpi> ça a l'air commun avec les trucs achetés sur ebay
[00:14] <Snoopyski> lol
[00:16] <deuxpi> ze bug: http://bugzilla.intellinuxwireless.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1997
[00:16] <Snoopyski> @d2_racing: CTRL + D ça fera l'affaire ;-)
[00:17] <Snoopyski> Heu je voulais dire Logo Windows + D
[00:18] <deuxpi> je sais pas combien $ Microsoft paie pour avoir son logo sur tous les foutus claviers... :/
[00:20] <Snoopyski> LOL... moi je l'ai gratté pis j'ai rien gagné !!!
[00:20] <Snoopyski> Fake je vais mettre le sticker Ubuntu ! ;-)
[00:20] <deuxpi> ouais il y en a deux sur les feuilles de sticker qui font bien l'affaire
[00:21] <Snoopyski> Exactement
[03:16] <Mobidoy> Kikou !!!! 
[03:16] <Mobidoy> Non pas eu le temps de patcher le module !!! 
[04:19] <d2_racing> bonsoir
[05:28] <Julie972> bonjour les mais
[05:28] <Julie972> amis
[05:28] <Julie972> :(
[05:28] <Julie972> qqn est-il encore réveillé
[05:28] <Julie972> (une fille de la caraibe)
[05:28] <Julie972> (concincée sur son upgrade 11.04)
[05:28] <Julie972> :(
[05:28] <Julie972> pfffffffffff
[05:42] <Julie972> qqn est-il encore réveillé
[16:03] <Snoopyski> Bonne journée gang... Pis bon upgrade à ceux qui passeront de 10.10 à 11.04 en fin semaine ;-)
[16:12] <IdleOne> Je suis sur 11.10 deja
[16:12] <IdleOne> :)
[16:34] <deuxpi> IdleOne: c'est ce que je disais à cyphermox jeudi passé ;)
[16:35] <IdleOne> deuxpi: I changed my repos to oneiric yesterday 65 packages got updated.
[16:35] <IdleOne> see idle-one-blogspot.com
[16:35] <IdleOne> err idle-one.blogspot.com
[16:36] <deuxpi> IdleOne: there is a bunch of gnome 3 stuff in there (ref. https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/oneiric-changes/2011-April/thread.html )
[16:36] <IdleOne> another 5 packages being updated as we speak
[16:37] <IdleOne> it is definitely not safe to upgrade
[16:37] <IdleOne> hehe
[16:38] <deuxpi> IdleOne: I'm running debian unstable, so I already have most of these updates ;)
[16:38] <IdleOne> so you know
[16:38] <IdleOne> I did the same thing with Natty. soon as the tool chain was uploaded I did an upgrade
[16:39] <deuxpi> is gcc-4.6 in ubuntu yet?
[16:39] <IdleOne> gcc:
[16:39] <IdleOne>   Installed: 4:4.6.0-3ubuntu1
[16:39] <IdleOne> yup
[16:39] <IdleOne> in 11.10
[16:40] <deuxpi> ok yeah :)
[16:41] <IdleOne> so basically 11.10 is Ubuntu+ Debian unstable ?
[16:42] <deuxpi> I think LTS releases are synced with debian testing, and non-LTS releases with unstable
[16:43] <IdleOne> I have to say I like Unity but I personally do not find it newbie friendly. Some settings are difficult to find if you don't know what you are looking for
[16:43] <IdleOne> I am not going to upgrade my mothers netbook, leaving it at 10.10 for now.
[16:44] <deuxpi> it's still much more than the "technology preview" some people try to pretend
[16:44] <IdleOne> not sure what you mean
[16:45] <IdleOne> Unity is very usable but for users who like to tweak and config I understand the complaints.
[16:45] <deuxpi> I see on the mailing lists that some people don't like the change, then they tell everyone that it shouldn't have been released as is
[16:46] <IdleOne> yeah, same complaints in #ubuntu. People saying that it is broken and doesn't work, that just is not true. Unity works perfectly, it just is not finished yet so many "features" a more experienced user would expect to see are not present but they will be added.
[16:47] <deuxpi> at least we no longer hear about the buttons on the left ;)
[16:48] <IdleOne> People forget that non-LTS releases are almost like an unstable release where new stuff gets tested, by the time we get to 12.04 Unity will be feature full and mature
[16:49] <deuxpi> I was surprised to see a large window pop-up to suggest me to upgrade yesterday
[16:49] <IdleOne> I saw a couple of people complain about the buttons being on the left. I guess when you upgrade the default theme sets the buttons back to the left
[16:49] <deuxpi> most probably
[16:49] <IdleOne> did you get a screenshot? I haven't seen it
[16:49] <IdleOne> that is something new
[16:49] <deuxpi> I'll try to boot a vm
[16:51] <IdleOne> to tell you the truth I hated the buttons being on the left and now when I get on a Windows PC I find it strange that the buttons are on the right. 
[16:51] <IdleOne> it makes more sense if you really think about it. The buttons being on the left makes it faster to get to the Dash or Applications menu.
[16:52] <deuxpi> and they don't "compete" for space with the indicators when using the global menu
[16:52] <IdleOne> right
[16:53] <IdleOne> the majority of complaints I have seen about Unity are all cosmetic complaints and the people who say it is broken don't have any technical reason to give when they say Unity is broken.
[16:54] <IdleOne> all the apps work fine, they are a little different because of the menu being moved to the top bar but that is cosmetic and is a question of getting accustom to using something a little different
[16:56] <deuxpi> programs like gimp, that had confusing interfaces are probably just worse, but that's not necessarily unity's problem
[16:56] <IdleOne> but gimp is not a program that is meant for the average user
[16:56] <Musashimaru> gimp is moving to standrd interface
[16:57] <IdleOne> gimp has sooooooo many buttons hehe
[16:58] <deuxpi> like gnome was to let go of the windows 95 ui, gimp must let go of the photoshop ui :)
[16:58] <IdleOne> applications like gimp are meant more for the "pro" user who knows exactly what they need to do.
[16:59] <IdleOne> I think the average user can get along just fine with F-spot or shotwell
[16:59] <deuxpi> http://www.deuxpi.ca/natty-upgrade.png
[16:59] <IdleOne> nice, that is new right?
[16:59] <IdleOne> I don't remember ever getting a window like that
[16:59] <deuxpi> me neither
[17:00] <deuxpi> but it tells the user that upgrading now is the right path
[17:00] <deuxpi> and it's not localized
[17:01] <IdleOne> next release they should make that an animated window
[17:01] <deuxpi> it's simply a web page
[17:01] <IdleOne> a little ocelot running across the screen and you have to click on it and then the window opens :)
[17:01] <deuxpi> wow
[17:02]  * IdleOne is full of awesome ideas
[17:02] <deuxpi> it's the /usr/lib/update-manager/check-new-release-gtk script
[17:03] <IdleOne> so it shouldn't be too difficult to implement my idea :)
[17:04] <IdleOne> imagine if you had a Narwhal swimming across your screen
[17:05] <deuxpi> (I'm trying to imaging an ocelot struggling to swim across the screen)
[17:06] <IdleOne> lol
[17:07] <IdleOne> ok imagine this. The ocelot runs around the screen jumping up and trying to catch a flying ubuntu logo
[17:07] <IdleOne> when you click on the ocelot he jumps one last time and catches the logo, screen fades out and upgrade window pops up.
[17:08] <deuxpi> w o w
[17:08] <IdleOne> start working on that dude :)
[17:10] <deuxpi> If firefox has nice upgrade screens, I don't see why ubuntu couldn't have them too
[17:11] <IdleOne> exactly
[17:12] <deuxpi> and I'll be sad if ubuntu-p doesn't have ponies
[17:12] <IdleOne> if you really want to make it fancy, it can be set to use the LoCo logo of the users country
[17:15] <deuxpi> makes me think of the "We Menu"
[17:16] <IdleOne> We menu?
[17:17] <deuxpi> i'm trying to find the reference 
[17:17] <deuxpi> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/packageselection-desktop-n-wemenu
[17:18] <deuxpi> it could integrate the concept of LoCo in the system
[17:19] <IdleOne> looks like aninteresting idea
[17:19] <IdleOne> looks like an interesting idea*
[17:20] <deuxpi> I'm not sure about the fish bowl...
[22:04] <JunK-Y> lo guys