[04:00] <wrst> wb cyberanger!
[04:11] <chris4585> hey wrst
[04:11] <wrst> hey chris4585 what's up?
[04:12] <chris4585> nothing much, just read this, thought it was funny http://theoatmeal.com/blog/fix_computer
[04:13] <wrst> pretty good chris4585
[04:13] <wrst> chris4585: i have yet to reinstall 11.04 i need to do that
[04:15] <chris4585> ah the joys of reinstalling..
[04:15] <wrst> well haven't been in much of a hurry with arch and gnome 3 i'm pretty happy
[04:16] <wrst> i am waiting until gnome 3 hits the reg. repos of arch and going to reinstall my entire laptop, i did a fresh install of gnome3/arch today and there are some things that are a little smoother not coming from an upgrade
[04:18] <chris4585> there's only one small thing holding me back on unity, I made that icon that once a file is dropped on in unity it will call a script
[04:19] <chris4585> I'm not quite sure how I would even do that on gnome3...
[04:19] <wrst> me either gnome 3 isa little different  there are ways but not easy... yet
[04:20] <wrst> well chris4585 i'mgoing to get to bed will catch you later, the baby is asleep and i'm going to attempt to do the same :)
[04:20] <chris4585> cya wrst, g'night
[04:20] <wrst> night chris4585
[04:22] <cyberanger> wrst: hey, how's it going
[12:34] <vychune> o/
[15:12] <vychune> o/
[16:22] <vychune> morning
[16:30] <vychune> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/control-totem-by-clapping-no-seriously/
[19:56] <cyberanger> so who's using natty now?
[19:56] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: you around?
[19:56] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: you around?
[19:57] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: sup
[19:57] <cyberanger> Due to all the damage in this area, and my luck to not be greatly affected
[19:57] <cyberanger> I dropped my rental for somebody who needs it more
[19:58] <cyberanger> and will not be heading to nashville tonight
[19:59] <cyberanger> I was able to help two people by doing that, two people who really needed it
[19:59] <cyberanger> if that storm didn't hit, I'd be going, figured this was best, stay local, help with the relif and so on
[19:59] <cyberanger> sorry for the short notice
[20:00] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: ^
[20:00] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: ^
[20:00] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: no worries
[20:02] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: any damage in your area?
[20:02] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: not really
[20:02] <cyberanger> I don't think I've heard from chibihogoshino lately, hope he's ok
[20:03] <cyberanger> it's a mess here, it's been declared a disaster area, salvation army and red cross mobilized
[20:03] <cyberanger> worse elsewhere I'm sure, but this isn't great here either
[20:04] <cyberanger> I am liking Natty though
[20:04] <cyberanger> Unity however is awkward
[20:05] <pace_t_zulu> unity is off to a solid start
[20:06] <cyberanger> maybe I'll get used to it, but honestly I think I prefer something a little more like lxde
[20:07] <cyberanger> I mean, as far as the beta bugs and such, that has really excelled
[20:07] <cyberanger> but it's something so different than what I've gotten used to, hard to say
[20:09] <wrst> cyberanger: i'm a gnome shell guy
[20:09] <wrst> and ubuntu does not do gnome shell well
[20:10] <cyberanger> wrst: yeah, arch or debian seem to be the two camps for that
[20:11] <wrst> yeah or fedora
[20:11] <wrst> F15 coming out with it soon
[20:11] <cyberanger> I've not heard of alot of use on fedora though
[20:11] <wrst> F15 is beta... i think still
[20:11] <cyberanger> more than opensuse though (which seems to be a KDE distro)
[20:12] <wrst> and a crappy distro
[20:12] <wrst> sorry cyberanger shouldn't have said that about opensuse but it is crappy
[20:12] <cyberanger> doesn't hurt me
[20:13] <cyberanger> Go Debian.....................Errr, I mean Ubuntu >:-)
[20:14] <wrst> cyberanger: i love the underbelly of ubuntu but don't care for the gui
[20:14] <wrst> because ubuntu server makes things so easy for a halfway hack like me
[20:14] <wrst> and unity will eventually be fine but i think i would have went with gnome 3
[20:15] <cyberanger> wrst: I use the alternate install, but goes more or less the same route as what your doing with the server disc
[20:15] <cyberanger> they're so similar
[20:16] <cyberanger> and yeah, but if the underbelly is practially debian, it really makes me wonder
[20:16] <cyberanger> I need to see how much I use in main, universe and multiverse
[20:17] <cyberanger> and compare it to debian's main, contrib, and non-free
[20:17] <wrst> cyberanger: the ease of setup of certain things, but yes i agree
[20:17] <cyberanger> seems just as easy in debian honestly
[20:18] <cyberanger> I have to enable contrib and non-free, or I have to enable universe and multiverse
[20:18] <cyberanger> that seems to be the major difference
[20:19] <cyberanger> idk if I'd ever say switch to debian (As a leader of the Ubuntu loco, I don't think I would, it doesn't quite feel right. but I could if I chose to)
[20:19] <cyberanger> but I must wonder, where the real gain is
[20:20] <cyberanger> esp for us, liking gnome 3 over unity
[20:20] <cyberanger> or other sertups
[20:21] <cyberanger> I'm still using it and trying it out
[20:21] <cyberanger> trying to keep an open mind, like I did with crunchbang 2 years ago or so
[20:22] <cyberanger> but it's not as easy, the flexability really sold me
[20:23] <cyberanger> wrst: have you used debian yet? in the same way your using the server install disc?
[20:28] <cyberanger> wrst: and how do you like gnome shell? I've not yet tried that one yet
[20:41] <wrst> cyberanger: love gnome shell and may give debian a try in a cm
[20:42] <wrst> *vm
[20:46] <cyberanger> wrst: it's worth it
[20:51] <wrst> for a real server it can't be beat
[20:52] <wrst> cyberanger: you should try gnome shell I really like it
[21:24] <cyberanger> wrst: after unity
[21:24] <cyberanger> that's the plan
[21:28] <wrst> unity just does not feel complete
[21:28] <chibihogoshino> ah cyberanger .. thats ok.. i kinda got a bit sick anyway
[21:29] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: well, glad it works out for everyone
[21:30] <cyberanger> I kinda hate it, missing it
[21:30] <chibihogoshino> hope no one got to much damage
[21:30] <cyberanger> but it is worthwhile to skip this one
[21:30] <chibihogoshino> yeah
[21:30] <cyberanger> on mutiple reasons
[21:30] <cyberanger> I've not heard of anyone affected
[21:30] <cyberanger> but that's meaningless
[21:30] <chibihogoshino> people are more important that software ..
[21:31] <cyberanger> those affected are the ones that could not tell us
[21:31] <chibihogoshino> i tree fell here.. but didnt hit anything
[21:31] <cyberanger> due to phones, cable, celluar network damage
[21:31] <chibihogoshino> oh wait.. yeah, it hit the ground
[21:31] <chibihogoshino> no ham chatter or anything ?
[21:35] <cyberanger> well, ham chatter doesnt cover all our members
[21:36] <chibihogoshino> i meant storm damage or news about it
[21:41] <cyberanger> well, to an extent
[21:41] <cyberanger> mainstream has covered alot too
[21:41] <cyberanger> at this point
[21:47] <chibihogoshino> ahh
[21:49] <cyberanger> chibihogoshino: unfortunately, it has a downside of being very general
[21:49] <cyberanger> and death toll is huge enough
[21:50] <cyberanger> in that area, we should just wish that everyone stays well
[21:50] <cyberanger> hello mar7ar
[21:55] <chibihogoshino> what area was hit bad ?
[21:56] <cyberanger> well, mutiple areas, but most everything I've heard for TN focuses on a radius of chattanooga
[21:56] <cyberanger> bradley county (here) is a real bad mess
[21:57] <chibihogoshino> ahh .. i didnt know it was that bad
[22:01] <cyberanger> yeah, I got lucky
[22:01] <chibihogoshino> good to hear ..
[22:02] <cyberanger> http://www.newschannel9.com/news/cross-1000654-red-chattanooga.html
[22:02] <cyberanger> http://www.wrcbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=14533412
[22:03] <cyberanger> the unfortunate thing for bradley county is that area they're touring really isn't where they need to look
[22:04] <mar7ar> hello
[22:04] <mar7ar> everybody
[22:04] <cyberanger> areas around it took damage, but the road isn't really an issue
[22:04] <cyberanger> mar7ar: how's it going
[22:04] <mar7ar> good
[22:05] <mar7ar> who is using maverick?
[22:07] <cyberanger> mar7ar: skipping over it for the most part
[22:07] <cyberanger> from lucid to natty, which was just released
[22:08] <mar7ar> I want to remove dark desktop transition
[22:08] <mar7ar> who has a clue?
[22:09] <cyberanger> I don't follow
[22:10] <cyberanger> what is it your trying todo?
[22:11] <mar7ar> when you move to another desktop the transition
[22:11] <mar7ar> is dark
[22:11] <mar7ar> i'm talking about the transition effect
[22:13] <cyberanger> what's your graphics card, it sounds like a desktop effect setting issue
[22:13] <mar7ar> i ve tried to find a setting in compiz but in vain
[22:13] <mar7ar> ati radeon
[22:14] <mar7ar> it's not about a real problem
[22:14] <cyberanger> do you happen to know which drivers did you install?
[22:14] <mar7ar> it's only a setting i can't find
[22:15] <cyberanger> I'm not a compiz user, not for a fair while
[22:15] <cyberanger> to me it sounds like a lag
[22:16] <cyberanger> too much effects for too little machine
[22:16] <cyberanger> but again, I've not used compiz too much in awhile
[22:18] <mar7ar> ubuntu conciliate between bice graphical effect & performance
[22:19] <mar7ar> this is really good