[09:06] <Kilos> morning superfly  and all of ya
[09:06] <Kilos> Maaz, coffee on
[09:06]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[09:08] <superfly> Maaz: coffee please
[09:08] <Maaz> superfly: Righto
[09:08] <superfly> morning Kilos
[09:10] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos and superfly!
[09:10] <Kilos> Maaz,  thank you
[09:10] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[09:12] <nlsthzn> Morning Uncle Kilos :)
[09:13] <Kilos> hiya nlsthzn 
[09:13] <nlsthzn> :)
[09:14] <Kilos> can someone tell me what xubuntu is please
[09:14] <Kilos> is just gnome gone
[09:15] <Kilos> sorry i can go googling or i would
[09:15] <Kilos> cant
[09:52] <nlsthzn> Kilos: xubuntu uses xfce in stead of gnome
[09:53] <nlsthzn> it looks a lot like gnome but is more lightweight
[09:53] <Kilos> ah
[09:53] <Kilos> ty nlsthzn 
[09:53] <Kilos> grr
[09:53] <Kilos> lol
[09:54] <Kilos> i'm looking for escape routes in case unity doesnt like me
[09:54] <nlsthzn> there is a unity 2d available that is the backup if 3d doesn't work...
[09:55] <Kilos> oh that might do it
[09:55] <Kilos> maybe its better to follow the trend. i wouldnt like to stop my ubuntu experience here on maverick much as i like it
[09:56] <Kilos> i stiil have to go show and convince my daughter ubuntu is better than win
[09:57] <Kilos> gonna be hard work as she uses all win friendly software for her drawings etc
[10:09] <nlsthzn> Kilos: just keep in mind that depending on what she is doing Ubuntu may not be the best thing for her to use... one size usually fits almost no one :)
[10:09] <Kilos> lol
[10:09] <Kilos> yeah but i will try
[10:10] <Kilos> lo MPD 
[10:11] <nlsthzn> Kilos: just remember that even though the interface changes the applications remain basically the same... 
[10:11] <Kilos> then i am sure i will get used to it or go kde with the fly and others
[10:13] <Kilos> not go with the fly but join them kde peeps
[10:15] <Kilos> then they will not have to think so much when i need help
[10:15] <nlsthzn> :)
[10:19]  * tumbleweed broke the mirror I was taking to the release party
[10:19] <tumbleweed> but it's almost fixed again. I should be there before 12 :/
[10:40] <drubin> who else is at the release party?
[10:40] <drubin> marcog: ?
[11:33] <tumbleweed> Maaz: translate smoor
[11:33] <Maaz> tumbleweed: throttle
[12:22] <afrodeity> greetings on this fine day
[12:23] <afrodeity> launch party obviously doesn't have irc up and running oh dear
[12:23] <afrodeity> maaz make me a latte
[12:23] <Maaz> afrodeity: What?
[12:24] <afrodeity> maaz: a cappucino then
[12:24] <Maaz> afrodeity: Huh?
[12:24] <afrodeity> you all look so much nicer in weechat-curses
[12:26] <afrodeity> maaz: coffee please
[12:26] <Maaz> afrodeity: There isn't a pot on
[12:26] <afrodeity> maaz: then put a pot on silly robot
[12:26] <Maaz> afrodeity: Sorry...
[12:37] <afrodeity> so much for "hackers" we now all just a bunch of users
[12:44] <Symmetria> *sigh*
[12:44]  * Symmetria bitchslaps bmw
[12:44] <Symmetria> they just recalled my car which means its gotta go in for a day or two which is a pain in the ass
[12:45] <nlsthzn> so any peeps at the launch party in SA at the moment?!
[12:51] <afrodeity> they at some restaurant in stellenbosch
[12:51] <afrodeity> with no irc
[12:53] <afrodeity> thought there would at least be an online fest
[12:53] <afrodeity> hi Symmetria
[12:55] <afrodeity> 9 hours remaining on my upgrade
[12:56] <kerberomobile> so wie is nie hier nie?
[12:56] <kerberomobile> @ releaseparty 
[12:58] <afrodeity> yo kerberomobile = ?
[13:03] <nlsthzn> I had enough release party in #ubuntu-release-party on the 28th :P
[13:09] <Symmetria> lol
[13:09] <Symmetria> I could pitch up there with my ipad and irc :P
[13:09] <Symmetria> that might not go down well though haha
[13:09] <Symmetria> all my stuff is apple based :P 
[13:10] <nlsthzn> Symmetria: lots of people here using macs, but running ubuntu virtually :)
[13:14] <Symmetria> lol I love my osx :)
[13:15] <Symmetria> ok, wtf, I just ran a traffic analysis against mozilla logs
[13:15] <Symmetria> and got strange strange results
[13:15] <Symmetria> of all the countries we serve mozilla to, south africa is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy down the list
[13:16] <Symmetria> either Egypt, Indonesia, Algeria, Tunisia, Nigeria, Saudi Arabia all beating us 
[13:16] <Symmetria> hell, Ghana is getting close to beating us
[13:16] <Symmetria> but egypt is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy on top
[13:16] <nlsthzn> Rest of world pawn SA on net :p
[13:17] <kerberomobile> symmetria, why don't you join us
[13:17] <Symmetria> kerberomobile heh, working for one thing, waiting for food thats been ordered for another, football starts at 4 for another and stellenbosch is miles away :P 
[13:17] <Symmetria> heh
[13:18] <kerberomobile> sad
[13:18] <Symmetria> *HRM* 1.7 terabytes of firefox downloads yesterday
[13:18] <kerberomobile> we are pulling gigs from your repo here
[13:18] <Symmetria> kerberomobile lol, feel free
[13:18] <Symmetria> what sorta speeds are you getting
[13:18] <kerberomobile> full 100mbps
[13:19] <kerberomobile> lan's limit
[13:19] <Symmetria> heh where are you at the moment?
[13:19] <kerberomobile> on the stellenbosch lan
[13:19] <Symmetria> aahh :) lol 
[13:19] <Symmetria> well, loads of capacity available so go wild
[13:19] <Symmetria> :P
[13:20] <Symmetria>  14:17:23 up 13 days, 29 min,  4 users,  load average: 0.53, 0.88, 0.84
[13:20] <kerberomobile> there is no gigbit points around here
[13:20] <superfly> kerberomobile: tell drubin that with a sick family, I unfortunately couldn't make it
[13:20] <kerberomobile> *are
[13:20] <Symmetria> :p server isnt even feeling it
[13:20] <Symmetria> kerberomobile heh, even if you had gig points, it still wouldnt hurt it :)
[13:20] <Symmetria> I've pushed that box to 8.8 gigabit before
[13:20] <kerberomobile> told drubin.
[13:20] <Symmetria> (and then had other issues)
[13:20] <kerberomobile> nice
[13:21] <Symmetria> at the moment we're doing a little over 150 hits a second via http to the box
[13:21] <superfly> thanks kerberomobile
[13:21] <Symmetria> actually, probably closer to 300, forgot one of the logs
[13:22] <Symmetria> *HRM* kerberomobile are you guys using za.archive.ubuntu.com?
[13:22] <Symmetria> za.releases?
[13:22] <Symmetria> or are you using ubuntu.mirror?
[13:22] <kerberomobile> uhm
[13:23] <kerberomobile> 155.232.191.230
[13:23] <kerberomobile> static dns entries to that ip
[13:23] <Symmetria> ftp or http? 
[13:23] <kerberomobile> any
[13:23] <kerberomobile> w/e the people uses
[13:23] <kerberomobile> cake time
[13:24] <Symmetria> aahh, you're using ubuntu.mirror, yeah, thats got all the cdimage dvd images etc on it
[13:24] <kerberomobile> gtg
[13:24] <Symmetria> for apt updates you should be using za.archive though :P
[13:24] <kerberomobile> also resolved to that ip
[13:24] <Symmetria> heh za.archive should resolve to 191.229 or 228 I think
[13:25] <Symmetria> yeah 191.229
[13:25] <kerberomobile> but i only rewrite the main and leg mirrors
[13:25] <Symmetria> but *shrug& either way
[13:25] <Symmetria> found your transfers :) 
[13:25] <kerberomobile> hehe
[13:25] <Symmetria> lol, ftps mostly
[13:25] <Symmetria> took some digging to find em because of the huge numbers of hits on that box
[13:25] <kerberomobile> hehe
[13:26] <kerberomobile> ok need to eat cake
[13:26] <Symmetria> have fun :)
[13:26] <kerberomobile> the cake is *not* a lie
[13:26] <kerberomobile> there will be fotos of the ubuntu cake again
[13:27] <kerberomobile> k bye
[13:32] <afrodeity> apologies to everybody there for not makin it, I'm counting electrons
[13:35] <afrodeity> 6 hours remaining
[13:45] <afrodeity> my sensors tell me this is going to be a long day
[14:11] <inetpro> good afternoon everyone
[14:12] <afrodeity> hello
[14:12]  * inetpro catching up with the logs
[14:13] <afrodeity> playing with weechat
[14:13] <afrodeity> damnn /window splitv command sux
[14:15] <inetpro> is there a release-party in Pretoria/Jhb?
[14:15]  * inetpro has not been active enough lately
[14:15] <inetpro> superfly: you and family ok?
[14:19] <afrodeity> listening to old bauhaus cd
[14:19] <superfly> inetpro: just a bad cold that we've had all week
[14:21] <nlsthzn> superfly: hope you all get well soon...
[14:22] <afrodeity> bela lagusi is dead
[14:22] <afrodeity> undead
[14:25] <superfly> nlsthzn: been hoping the same thing since Sunday
[14:26] <afrodeity> upgrading to anarchism 13.4-1
[14:27] <nlsthzn> my wife spent a night in hospital two days ago due to high fever... virus infection (aka unknown reason)... slowly getting better thankfully
[14:27] <afrodeity> not legionaires disease?
[14:28] <afrodeity> hope she gets better
[14:30] <nlsthzn> afrodeity: I don't know what that is but I hope not oO
[14:30] <nlsthzn> thanks
[14:30] <afrodeity> lot of weird foriegn stuff going around since world cup
[14:31] <nlsthzn> afrodeity: hehe... well we haven't been near SA for more than a year so :p
[14:31] <afrodeity> like the german clap
[14:31] <afrodeity> lol
[16:06] <Symmetria> interesting 
[16:06] <Symmetria> apple is now the second most valuable company in the world
[16:06] <Symmetria> and its income is smashing microsofts 
[16:06] <Symmetria> with ipad sales expected to exceed sales of pcs in the next 12 months
[16:07] <Symmetria> heh, they also shipped 18.5 million phones compared to htc shipping 9.7 
[17:29] <drubin> superfly: No worries. I hope you feel better. 
[17:36] <superfly> drubin: getting there
[18:58] <nuvolari> hmm. people never learn to back up, do they?
[18:58] <nuvolari> *before a distribution upgrade
[19:36] <nuvolari> wb mrs_fly, superfly 
[19:39] <superfly> thanks nuvolari - had a user-induced problem with my quassel-core
[19:57] <marcog> maaz ask drubin what was the name of that app you said i should install?
[19:57] <Maaz> marcog: Got it, I'll ask drubin on freenode
[20:12] <drubin> marcog: "flight air control light" ? possibly
[20:12] <Maaz> drubin: By the way, marcog on freenode told me "ask drubin what was the name of that app you said i should install?" 14 minutes and 48 seconds ago
[20:12]  * marcog looks
[20:13] <drubin> marcog: it was an app for your phone right?
[20:13] <marcog> yeah
[20:14] <marcog> found it
[20:16] <marcog> so btw, cafe royale are open on monday
[20:19] <drubin> why wouldn't they be?
[20:20] <marcog> public holiday
[20:20] <marcog> couple other places i had called said they will be closed
[20:21] <superfly> cafe royale ftw
[20:22] <marcog> :)
[20:23] <marcog> this will be my first time there
[20:23] <marcog> drubin: app isn't compatible with the wildfire :/
[20:25] <drubin> marcog: odd... why wouldn't it be odd
[20:25] <marcog> screen res i guess
[20:26] <superfly> those sweetpotato chips are good
[20:26] <marcog> yeah drubin said too
[20:32] <Kilos> superfly, you here?
[20:32] <superfly> hi Kilos
[20:32] <Kilos> hiya. ian downloaded that 32 bit natty with xp but its only 500m is that right
[20:33] <Kilos> not supposed to be 685m or so
[20:33] <superfly> Kilos: yeah, it should be about 695 I think, actually
[20:33] <superfly> Kilos: Ubuntu natty? (not Kubuntu?)
[20:33] <Kilos> eish winsucks again
[20:34] <Kilos> no he did it there in rustenburg for himself
[20:34] <Kilos> had to install xp to get modem working
[20:34] <Kilos> did you get my mails superfly 
[20:35] <superfly> Kilos: I did
[20:35] <Kilos> battled at first it kept saying maito: and that caught me
[20:35] <superfly> hehe
[20:35] <Kilos> i couldnt understand why it kept telling me mail failed
[20:35] <Kilos> hehe
[20:36] <Kilos> learn something new every day
[20:43] <Kilos> ty superfly methinks i gonna try kubuntu on one drive first and if it gets online easy enough then i will use it here too. see too many peeps having probs 
[20:43] <superfly> Kilos: sure... do you want xubuntu as well, just for fun?
[20:44] <Kilos> yes please i can always play on the P3
[20:44] <Kilos> maybe i like that best
[20:44] <Kilos> who knows
[20:44] <Kilos> i one doesnt try one will never know
[20:49] <Kilos> if
[20:54] <superfly> Kilos: do you want both desktop and alternate CDs?
[20:54] <Kilos> please superfly  if its no hassle
[20:55] <Kilos> if the install not too good on p3 will try the alternate here
[20:56] <Kilos> but no rush
[20:58] <superfly> Kilos: I have all of those already downloaded :-)
[20:58] <Kilos> wow
[20:58] <Kilos> you dont play hey
[20:59] <superfly> Kilos: that's why I have uncapped
[20:59] <Kilos> lekker hey
[20:59] <Kilos> broadband sucks
[21:00] <Kilos> but without it i wouldnt even be on ubuntu
[21:35] <Symmetria> god I hate saix 
[21:35] <Symmetria> the idiots didnt update their filters :( so traffic from saix -> us = international
[21:35] <Symmetria> traffic from us -> saix is fine though
[21:45] <nuvolari> I thought this is a family channel?
[21:46] <Symmetria> heh, where was I being anti family :P
[21:52] <nuvolari> Symmetria: do you feel guilty? I didn't direct it at anyone :P
[22:26] <inetpro> eish
[22:26] <inetpro> Err http://za.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ maverick/universe vnstat i386 1.10-1
[22:26] <inetpro>   Something wicked happened resolving 'za.archive.ubuntu.com:http' (-5 - No address associated with hostname)
[22:27] <inetpro> getting that when trying to install vnstat with aptitude
[22:27] <inetpro> now where is Symmetria when you need him?
[22:29] <inetpro> will try again tm
[22:35] <marcog|home> inetpro: UCTs internet is dead, your issue is possibly related
[22:35] <marcog|home> i.e. it might be TENET that's affected