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Caly *with00:00
ActionParsnipwork: lsmod    I did say earlier00:00
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ActionParsnipwork: use a pastebin to host the output00:00
dark-matterCaly: I did failsafe graphics mode to force vesa00:00
lovebugIf I wana run perl script as service . how to do it ? I mean I have a vps which runs ubuntu server and I want to run a perl script without stoping even tho I exit from the terminal session ??? anyone ?00:00
Calymkay, didn't work for me at all dark-matter00:00
daniel_how do i get my internet to work in this so called update that should go foreward and improve ubuntu and no go backwards and make the most vital thing on modern computers not work at all00:00
truepurpleActionParsnip: You mean additional drivers? That is only one possible driver to use, I want to explore other driver options00:00
KNUBBIGlovebug: either via !screen or as an init script00:00
dark-matterCaly: That sucks00:00
robertzaccourhow do you put the unity taskbar at the bottom?00:01
ActionParsniptruepurple: thats all I know00:01
dark-matterThey really should make an easy way to roll back your version if you need to00:01
lovebugKNUBBIG:  do u have a sample ? I didnt get what u said00:01
truepurpleActionParsnip: There is like at least 3 different options for drivers to use, and I'd like to know which to use, where would be a good place to go?00:01
ActionParsnip!downgrade | dark-matter00:01
ubottudark-matter: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.00:01
lovebugexample*00:01
Calydark-matter: well,. i'm up and runnung now, but i gotta get my head around this "gconf error" shit00:01
KNUBBIGlovebug: you ssh into the server?00:01
lovebugyes00:01
AaeRohnRockj: same result00:01
dark-matterlol00:01
KNUBBIGlovebug: okay, I'll pm you00:01
pseubodotUpgraded 10.10->11.04 and love it, but am just surprised by how the 'emulate 3 button mouse' behaviour does not seem to exist any more ... is there a way to restore this?00:01
lovebugthanks00:01
ActionParsnippseubodot: you may need an xorg.conf file00:02
mala85Can I easily remove the workspace switcher icon from the Unity launcher?00:02
dark-matteri am going to program this: sudo dist-downgrade00:02
kwtmdark-matter: There is a way to do it, but you have to have planned it beforehand in the way you set up your hard drive.  I used it for upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04 and I'm glad I did it.00:02
dark-matterI should of just made a drive image00:02
pseubodotActionParsnip: you mean manually put the Emulate3Button or whatever line back into the xorg.conf?00:02
dark-matterit would have take an hour and saved me 1000:02
christhecoolboyI have a problem since I have updated to Ubuntu 11.04, I was wondering If somebodey could help me...00:02
dark-matterLOL00:02
ActionParsnippseubodot: it may be necessary if you can't get it in other ways00:03
daniel_how do i get my internet to work in this so called update that should go foreward and improve ubuntu and no go backwards and make the most vital thing on modern computers not work at all00:03
KNUBBIG!screen00:03
ubottuscreen is a window manager for terminal sessions, also useful over SSH. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen00:03
Calychristhecoolboy: welcome to the club00:03
AcriaxKNUBBIG, thanks mate, that did it :)00:03
RockjAaeRohn: ohh, we need some scanning drivers maybe. hm.00:03
RockjAaeRohn: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html00:03
kwtmdark-matter: Next time, partition your hard drive into 2 small system drives and 1 big data drive.  Have the old operating system on one system drive, and the new one on the other system drive.  They would share the same data drive.  Then you could dual boot into old or new version.00:03
RockjAaeRohn: been there? :]00:03
KNUBBIGAcriax: yey, no problem :)00:03
ForeverDrunkWhat repo is php5-curl in?00:03
christhecoolboyCaly, I've only got one problem... The rest of my Ubuntu Upgrade was ok...00:03
AaeRohnRockj: I have the drivers for this MFC00:03
FoolsRunHi, so since Natty the kernel now understands IR events from remote controls. Is there any way to stop this and go back the way it was? It makes XBMC uncontrollable with an MCE remote.00:04
daniel_is there a way to go back to 10.10 without losing everything i have on my computer without dealing with 100 backup discs?00:04
AaeRohnRockj: both the printer and scanner drivers from that place00:04
xanguadaniel_: no00:04
CryptoSecmy ClamTk is stating that my Antivirus engine is outdated... does anyone know how i can update it?00:04
RockjAaeRohn: ok, I notice there is some scan-key-tool and brscan3 executables/packages. *checking their docs*00:05
ActionParsnip!downgrade | daniel_00:05
ubottudaniel_: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.00:05
ActionParsnipCryptoSec: add the clamav ppa00:05
AaeRohnRockj: I got the 32 bit, the 64s are an invalid build00:05
RockjAaeRohn: type   brscan-skey     (should start running as a background process) then try   brscan-skey -l00:06
CryptoSecwould you give me the url for the clamav ppa  please?00:06
kwtmdaniel_: If your  home  directory and the root directory are on the same drive, it would be hard.  Consider getting an extra hard drive, either internally to store your home directory, or externally as a backup (thus no "100 backup disks") and then back up /home and you can reinstall the older system.00:06
ActionParsnipCryptoSec: search an ye shall find00:06
OinsAfter the upgrade to 11.04, I miss my tray icons. Some tools (e.g. Pidgin) only works with tray icon. If the program is closed, how can i bring it in front again without the tray icon feature ?00:06
daniel_xangua, do u know hat i shoulddo then im in a pickle 10.10 i had internet 11.04 no internet the wifi indicater led on my keybourd wont glow and the networking tool doesnt evan notice it idk what to do00:06
coolkid25ActionParsnip: which download do i get? download and install or try it from a cd or usb stick?00:06
pseubodotActionParsnip: but are there any other ways?00:07
christhecoolboyHere is my problem, I have ubuntu, my Microphone worked before I upgrade it and I need to use it later tonight for a podcast recording, but... once I switched to Ubuntu 11.04, it no longer works, this is the only problem major problem that I have had with the Ubuntu 11.04 upgrade...00:07
CryptoSecalright will do thanks00:07
ActionParsnippseubodot: thats the only way I can think of, maybe there are other ways but I'm not sure00:07
pseubodotActionParsnip: cool, thanks!00:07
RockjAaeRohn: check http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn3.html  , says to    press the scan button and select user and seelct destination and start?00:07
coolkid25also ActionParsnip00:08
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: you want the desktop ISO and burn it slowly to a CD or copy to USB stick using unetbootin etc00:08
daniel_all i know was i wish there was a warning or soemthing teling me my internet wont work after i do a so called update update00:08
AaeRohnRockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601044/00:08
kwtmUbuntu should really make it a default to be able to dual boot into either of two versions of the OS.  These upgrades can really screw you over.00:08
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: remember to MD5 sum00:08
coolkid25ialright00:08
Random832kwtm: how do you propose it should manage that?00:08
RockjAaeRohn: I asume running that brscan-skey program, it is able to receive the scanning image from your scanner? *wildly guessing out in the wild , hehe*00:08
ActionParsnipkwtm: how do you mean?00:08
coolkid25ActionParsnip: what if i installed with wubi???00:08
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: then Ive no idea. I dislike wubi and have no knowledge of it. The liveCD method may not work00:09
Random832you know...00:09
CryptoSecfound it00:09
CryptoSecthanks00:09
ubuntu_haha00:09
Random832it would be interesting to have a distribution designed to live in a chroot00:09
AaeRohnRockj: pressing scan > select oputput type > start color or B&W00:09
Glaciagrrrrr00:09
RockjAaeRohn: same, any is fine I guess00:09
kwtmRandom832: I think it should, by default, partition into 2 system drives (each 5-10GB in size, say) and the remainder is a data drive where /home  is mounted.  By default at least put /home on a separate partition so the system can be wiped without wiping home.  Install the newest linux into the system drive with the oldest linux.  When it comes time to upgrade, preserve the current version of the OS and install into the other00:09
kwtmsystem drive.00:09
ActionParsnipRandom832: you can make it00:09
coolkid25so ActionParsnip do i want the try it cd or the installstion?00:10
AaeRohnRockj: aaand still nthing works00:10
RockjAaeRohn: it mentioned destination in the docs, and user ? no prompt for that?00:10
Random832kwtm: that would be a ridiculous waste of space00:10
AaeRohnRockj: nope, nothing00:10
Random832although...00:10
kwtmRandom832: They could make it an option.  Whether something is "ridiculous" would depend on the opinion of the user, not you.00:10
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: try it cd. I'm not sure if you can do this with wubi. You have a lot more work to do because you used wubi00:10
aguitelanyone try gnome3 in natty ?00:10
daniel_does anyone know how to fix internet or know a site i shoul go to to get it working i dont mind doing it if i had a wlak through or something just osmeone please help point me in the right direction i realy need some internet00:10
Random832why hasn't anyone (or has anyone) made a variable-size filesystem00:10
christhecoolboyCould anyone please take the time to help with my problem, I really need my mic for later tonight...00:10
ActionParsnipkwtm: debian gives an option of a seperate /home partition in an easily selectable option00:11
Random832you could implement it with sparse files, or simply with aggressive defragmentation00:11
Random832[er, the former in a loopback device on top of a traditional filesystem, obviously]00:11
Glaciaok i really hate 11.0400:11
stravantI updated to 11.04 and the "File" menu at the top of the screen right now is black-text on black background (as well as the time indicator and the Ubuntu one menu), so I can't see it, is anyone else having this problem?00:11
bizerklurkerEvery time I login, I get the same default icons despite removing them and adding new ones ( by right-clicking on apps like skype and pressing "keep in launcher.") I hope I have explained my problem thoroughly - I am a ubuntun00b. Is this just a bug, is it fixable, or am I missing something here?00:11
kwtmActionParsnip: Interesting ... sounds like a more conservative option.  I guess it's not avaialble with Ubuntu (I don't know; I'm sticking with 10.04).00:11
dark-matterWOOT, failsafe graphics got me in and now I am trying to install nvidia drivers00:11
coolkid25ActionParsnip: I'm on 10.10 and it isny an option00:11
coolkid25what do i do?00:11
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh00:11
RockjAaeRohn: ok, lets see if adding a udev rule might do the trick then.00:11
ActionParsnipkwtm: not currently but users can usemanual partitioning and achieve it00:12
daniel_does anyone know how to fix internet or know a site i shoul go to to get it working i dont mind doing it if i had a wlak through or something just someone please help point me in the right direction i realy need some internet00:12
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: what isn't an option?00:12
kwtmActionParsnip: That's what I do.  But I see enough hair-pulling after an update that I wonder if they should automate it.00:12
coolkid25ActionParsnip: to download ubuntu 10.1000:13
RockjAaeRohn: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1c.html is some notes about adding an udev rule, it notes is for Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04 but im sure its the same for 11.0400:13
christhecoolboyYour ALSA information is in /tmp/alsa-info.txt.SBN7Yihi7e << ActionParsnip00:13
coolkid25but that is the one i am on00:13
ActionParsnipkwtm: you may be able to script stuffI guess00:13
coolkid25what do i do?00:13
christhecoolboyhow do I give you that?00:13
MohammadAGkwtm, just upgraded my PC (it has a 120GB /home and a 30GB / sans /home), it was pretty seamless00:13
hypodermiaanybody here noticed the system bell in natty doesn't seem to work? or know if there's a bug i should be looking at or a setting i'm missing?00:13
Calydark-matter: getting anywhere?00:13
RockjAaeRohn: Ill just check if its the correct file to edit.00:13
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: ok then run:  sudo  apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /tmp/alsa-info.txt.SBN7Yihi7e00:13
MohammadAGbesides the downloads taking about 5 hours /me blames IL Ubuntu servers00:14
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: that file is on your PC only and I don't have access to it. The pastebin will make a url, what is it?00:14
AaeRohnRockj: I gotta run an errand, I'll be back and we can resume beating out heads on our desks about this00:14
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: natty will be fine00:14
AxlinMohammadAG: that's why i always use the torrents :P00:14
Odaythere is one girl on the interwebs.00:14
dark-matterCaly: hopefully, I am in the GUI and installing drivers00:14
ActionParsnip!girls00:14
ubottuGirls exist on the internet. See http://www.escapistmagazine.com/print/17/27 | http://www.xkcd.com/322/ | For more interesting reading: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/00:14
coolkid25ActionParsnip: which is natty? :x00:14
ActionParsnip!natty | coolkid2500:15
ubottucoolkid25: Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/110400:15
hypodermiagirls on the internet? pffft.00:15
OinsI use Ubuntu 11.04. After closing truecrypt, the program goes to background. How can i bring it in front again? Starting it again dops out the message "program already running". At 10.04, it was able to get it back with the tray icon. But how at 11.04?00:15
RockjAaeRohn: aye, can you give me roughly an ETA, ill make me some cooffee or something (its 1am here in Norway)00:15
Oday!thanks | ActionParsnip00:15
ubottuActionParsnip: You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)00:15
macohypodermia: you can stop that00:15
hypodermiamaco: what'd i do?00:15
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/00:15
christhecoolboy:)00:15
MohammadAGAxlin, torrents with apt-get dist-upgrade? :P00:15
kwtmMohammadAG: I'm not sure you count.  Your N900 could flip over dead on its back with its six legs and antennae splayed out, and you could press some 7-key combination and say, "Yeah, I got it working again, no sweat."00:15
AxlinMohammadAG: oh, touche. lol00:16
teageAnyone know how to check what is running on ports?, chkrootkit says bindshell INFECTED port 15.00:16
macohypodermia: scoffing at girls on the internet isn't really necessary, especially when ubuntu has an entire subproject devoted to bringing in more women contributors and making them feel welcome enough to stay00:16
spikebikeanyone else use toggle vertical maximize and unity?00:16
coz_spikebike,  yes00:16
extraclassicteage: i use nmap for that00:16
Calydark-matter: ah, nice. i pretty much puked at the new GUI though, i'm moving stuff to my NAS, while downloading Debian insted00:16
trentgAnybody why I get connection refused trying to connect (FTP) to ppa.launchpad.net?00:16
MohammadAGkwtm, small interwebz :P00:16
spikebikecoz_: you get annoying scrolling when you gain/lose focus?00:16
teageextraclassic, good idea. thanks00:16
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kwtmMohammadAG: Me, I've got my history of upgrade problems to contend with.  (Even now my 10.04 has broken things that my 8.04 didn't have, like errors in Kmail, 30-second freezes in the KDE file dialog, no fullscreen BZflag, etc. etc.)00:16
coz_spikebike,  mm not so far no...can you detail that?  which app is open ,, what are doing ?00:17
dark-matterCaly: LOL, I have thought about that many many many times00:17
hypodermiamaco: i'm being ironic. i'm aware. it is just my reaction to play into it when people bring up the whole girls-on-the-internet thing. when people meet me IRL, it gets that much funnier.00:17
spikebikecoz_: open terminal, vertical maximize, generate enough content to scroll00:17
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: add:   options snd-hda-intel model=auto    to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf00:17
Kevin147Now that I upgraded, my desktop is lagging on minecraft. Why? I don't like this.00:17
spikebike(ls or just hodl down return000:17
coz_spikebike,  I assume you are using compiz for this ...yes?00:17
spikebike)00:17
spikebikecoz_: ya, unity is a compiz module00:17
Calydark-matter: me too, but this fuwgly fkn new interface just med me decide to go all free finally.00:17
coolkid25wait ActionParsnip isnt natty bad?00:17
coz_spikebike,  yes I know that :)00:17
thomashcanyone know how to type lithuanian characters on an english keyboard(ąčęėįšųū etc)?00:17
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, I did that before, now again?! I even did a bugfix about it...00:17
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: its fine00:18
spikebikecoz_: heh, well just being specific that I'm not using compiz and not unity00:18
spikebikecoz_: does it do that for you as well?00:18
MohammadAGkwtm, but seriously, I just avoid the GUI update manager and use sed -i 's/maverick/natty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade00:18
Calydark-matter: and Debian feels a bit like a safer card than Trisquel yet.00:18
coolkid25also ActionParsnip should i get 32 bit or 64 bit?00:18
coz_spikebike,  so you are settings in ccsm.. general options,,, keybinding tab,,, toggle max horizontal and vertical with keybindings ,, yes?00:18
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: you need an option like that, could try model=laptop00:18
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: 32bit will be an easier life00:18
spikebikecoz_: ya, exactly00:18
dark-matterCaly: ya, and they don't have as many udpates00:18
spikebikeI bind it to <super z>00:18
pfifoif I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /home/pfifo/lib and install a few libs there... In what order will programs look for libs?00:18
coz_spikebike,  I have not seen any issue  but to be honest,, I am not on unity right now,,,        maverick at the moment00:19
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, It already is options snd-hda-intel model=auto00:19
hypodermiathomashc: it looks like there's a lithuanian keyboard variant for US keyboards00:19
coolkid25ActionParsnip: Why? :000:19
BKTech86hi, windows wiped out my grub and I can't restore it using the guides online, can anyone help please? thanks00:19
coz_spikebike,  if you wait about 2 minutes and can restart into unity00:19
kwtmMohammadAG: You really DO live on the edge, don't you?  I can see how you get seamless upgrades.  I do the opposite.  Burn an install DVD (never upgraded) and carve out a new partition from the old.00:19
Calydark-matter: yeah, well, as long as i get a desktop that does not look like i'm on a samrtphone instead of a computer, i'm good00:19
spikebikecoz_: cool, yeah I'm curious, I've opened a ticket if you want to sign on (if you see it)00:19
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, that was the fix for a MSI AE2020, I put a bugfix about it...00:19
Glaciai got whiched to ubuntu classic how do i go back to unity?00:19
thomashchypodermia: yes, but it doesn't quite match up with english layouts, I was looking for a way using the international altgr keyboard layout00:19
christhecoolboyIt fixed my Speakers when I was originally on 10.1000:19
christhecoolboymy Mic already worked...00:20
pfifoalso, is there an ubuntu official way to compile 32 bit binaries with gcc while using the 64bit os?00:20
robertzaccourcan the unity taskbar be switched to the bottom yet?00:20
dark-matterCaly: LMAO, you are making me not want to fix my Ubuntu00:20
hypodermiathomashc: i dunno then00:20
spikebikepfifo: isn't it just gcc -m32?00:20
thomashchypodermia: thanks anyways :)00:20
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: try model=laptop  or   model=generic00:20
BKTech86can anyone help me restore grub please? thanks00:20
ActionParsnipBKTech86: boot to livecd and reinstate the bootloader00:20
BKTech86ActionParsnip: I am booted, how do i do that?00:21
coolkid25ActionParsnip: Why is 32-bit better?00:21
Glaciai got switched to ubuntu classic how do i go back to unity?00:21
MohammadAGkwtm, well it's easier this way, and since I have more than two PCs to upgrade, I just cp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb between PCs and run apt-get00:21
pfifospikebike, im not sure, ive always has a 32 and 64 bit install and wounld boot to native for compiling stuff00:21
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, Can I ask you something first?! Isnt hda for your soundcard?00:21
christhecoolboyMy soundcard works fine...00:21
Calydark-matter: i hae no regrets about that00:21
Caly^^00:21
ubuntu_im on a live disc i used my usb stick to try 11.04.   i thought it was going to have a new layout and stuff on side? or am i miising something?00:21
ActionParsnipBKTech86: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows00:21
dark-matterLOL00:21
BKTech86ActionParsnip: I tried that, it doesn't work00:21
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: yes but the mic is PART of the soundcard00:22
dark-matterCaly: OMG It does look like a smart phone00:22
dark-matterWTF00:22
MohammadAGubuntu_, I think the live cd uses the classic desktop00:22
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, its not part of the soundcard...00:22
ActionParsnipBKTech86: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6fpIe-QnVE00:22
benhhaha natty fail00:22
MohammadAGprobably because unity needs 3D acceleration00:22
spikebikepfifo: that works as well00:22
cmb151hello, I have ubuntu 11.04, and my sound card is not detected. I have a VT1708/A soundcard which is not support by alsa. How can I get my sound working?00:22
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: so its a seperate device?00:22
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, I got the webcam and the mic next to it, built in to the PC...00:22
benh"after your package information was updated, the essential package "ubuntu-minimal" can not be found anymore"00:22
robertzaccourcan the unity taskbar be switched to the bottom yet?00:22
pfifospikebike, but cause im trying out natty64 i have both ubuntu and gentoo using 64bit00:23
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: ok then check in sound options and switch the mic device to the one on the webcam00:23
coz_spikebike,  ok on Unity,, walk me through what you are doing00:23
MohammadAGrobertzaccour, no, afaik00:23
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, I dont have the option any more...00:23
dark-matterFolks were not in Gnome any longer00:23
ubuntu_MohammadAG,  thank you,... so when i install then itll change. thanks00:23
spikebikecoz_: open terminal, vert maximize, hit return00:23
spikebike(till it scrolls)00:23
MohammadAGubuntu_, yep, and you'll have the option to change before login00:23
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: then run: lsusb     search for the 8 character hex ID and you may find guides00:23
Calydark-matter: and that would be why Ubuntu came to suck balls imo00:24
coz_spikebike,  thats it?  no strange happenings with that here00:24
cmb151anybody?00:24
spikebikeit's scrolling?00:24
coz_spikebike,  no00:24
coz_let me do a couple commands hold on00:24
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, when I entered lsub in to terminal, it just froze00:24
christhecoolboy*lsusb00:25
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: yikes00:25
ubuntu_MohammadAG,  is that option a  one time thing, or will i haave a choice every login?00:25
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, do you think teamviewer might help you solve this problem faster? I do have the option of doing it if you want, :)00:25
Calydark-matter: there... burning Debian 600:25
dark-matternice00:25
cmb151Is there a sound guru in the house? :)00:26
MohammadAGubuntu_, every login, same as if you had kde and gnome00:26
toto654so how's ur opinions on unity00:26
coz_spikebike,  darn did dist-upgrade   :) let these several packages install and I will try again in about,,,whoa   19 minutes?  darn those servers must really be bogged down ;p;00:26
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: not a good idea to invite strangers to your system00:26
coz_spikebike,  let me try while it's updating00:26
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ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: if lsusb just hangs then that may be part of the issue00:26
spikebikecoz_: I've got an idle mirror ;-)00:26
MohammadAGif you have automatic login, you logout and pick what you want00:26
coz_spikebike,  nope not scrolling thiny going on00:26
teageOk nmap says port 15 open service netstat. why would chkrootkit report INFECTED on port 15?00:26
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, I need this solved within two hours, *sad face*00:26
AaeRohnrockj: still here?00:26
naokohey guys00:26
coz_spikebike,  let me install kazam or gtkrecord my desktop to show , maybe i am doing it wrong hold onon00:27
ubuntu_MohammadAG,  sweet. thanks.00:27
naokoI installed xChat, and I noticed once it's minimized, you can't access it anylonger from any window00:27
coz_naoko,  it should be in the launcher00:28
Glaciano one?00:28
russjr08naoko, have you tried Alt+Tab? It happens to me sometimes and I can access it from there00:28
truepurpleAnyone know which ATI drivers are the best to use?00:28
naokocoz_: clicking that just opens up a new process00:28
coz_naoko,   are you middle clicking it?00:28
naokocoz_: nevermind, russjr08's thing works00:29
rgrnaoko: its logged as a bug already. google xchat minimised.00:29
coz_naoko,  oh ok00:29
naokorgr: Oh, alright.00:29
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/00:29
ActionParsniptruepurple: depends on needs and taste00:29
rgrhttp://fossplanet.com/f10/[bug-772524]-re-when-minimising-xchat-xchat-gnome-unity-icondisappears-143124/00:29
ActionParsniptruepurple: there is no single best solution for anything00:30
cmb151are there any alternatives to alsa if it does not have a driver for my soundcard?00:30
truepurpleActionParsnip: Ok, so which solutions are good for what kind of things?00:30
rgrtruepurple: explain your needs. else read the wiki.00:30
truepurpleActionParsnip: Or put another way, what are the pros and cons of the different driver options?00:30
taseim trying to install ubuntu on this old laptop, but it's stuck on the part with the 5 dots under the ubuntu title, 10.10 i368 from usb00:30
naokoThere we go, thank you guys.00:30
ActionParsniptruepurple: if you need full 3D goodness for games and the like then use the proprietary, if you just need basic desktop based stuff then the open drivers are fine00:31
truepurplergr: What wiki?00:31
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, Just ran Cheese, Webcam works fine... Should I run Device Manager?!00:31
spikebikehey coz_ can you 6MB video I recorded with my android phone?00:31
coz_spikebike,  making video00:31
spikebikecoz_: can you view rather00:31
steve1I just upgraded to 11.04 and the new keyboard shortcuts have broken my existing keyboard shortcuts ... is there a way to modify the keyboard shortcuts in 11.04?00:31
truepurpleActionParsnip: the proprietary is the one you download off the ATI website?00:31
coz_spikebike,  can you upload it to speedyshare?00:31
dios_mioI use two keyboard layouts... in preferences I unchecked "new windows use active windows's layout" but it is still the rule...00:31
KNUBBIGsteve1: not all, but some afaik. Try compizconfig-settings-manager00:31
ubdHEllo, i want to install ubuntu with openbox, but i have to use specific drivers (geode) for xorg. how do i do that?00:31
dijonyummyi'll keep classic gnome, but should i upgrade to 11.04 or do the fresh install. are there bugs with upgrading from 10.10?00:31
ActionParsniptruepurple: you can use the additional drivers app00:32
rgrwhat wiki? google ubuntu video drivers. There are umpteen sources. Asking for an entire descritpion in #irc is a little optimistic.00:32
ActionParsnipubd: you can use xorg.conf to set the driver00:32
rgrdepends on card type for a start00:32
KNUBBIG!ccsm | steve100:32
ubottusteve1: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz00:32
cmb151Will someone please help me hear ubuntu? My soundcard is not working.00:32
rgrdijonyummy: have you looked at the Ubuntu supprot forums? There are oodles of issues.00:33
ubdActionParsnip: can you tell me the steps i should follow? like 1- install base, 2- install driver 3- install xorg 4- edit xorg conf etc?00:33
steve1KNUBBIG: is that the only place?  I found those, but they're still not all of them ... like I had used Win+L to lockscreen ... now it does nothing.  actually, now that I think about it, it's all my Win+? shortcuts that are borked.00:33
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: if you run:  alsamixer    is the mic muted?00:33
truepurpleActionParsnip: But those aren't as up to date as what I would get off ATIs website, right?00:33
ActionParsnipubd: I'd say install ubuntu and openbox then set the xorg.conf and restart X and it will be used00:34
KNUBBIGsteve1: I'm not sure but I think these are all you can modify. There was a user today asking something similar, but I don't remember if he found a solution, maybe you can look through the channel logs00:34
cmb151The sound issue is all over the forums, bu t I have not been able to solve it by using any of the threads there00:34
ActionParsniptruepurple: not sure, I avoid Ati like the plague00:34
ubdok thanks!00:34
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, above mic it has MM00:34
ubuntu_MohammadAG,  do ya know  if th e Kubuntu is the same as well? with the  unity option?00:34
rgrditto here. NVidia all the way for me.00:34
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: then use cursors and M to navigate and unmute it00:34
cmb151Way back in ubuntu 9 my sound worked fine00:35
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: use Q or ESC to close alsamixer00:35
lost_causeAnybody have any success customizing unity in 11.04? I would like  to move task bar to bottom. Ideas? Help please.00:35
rgrcmb151:  what card do you have?00:35
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, whats the button to Unmute, I remember there being a button...00:35
pooltablehelp with 11.4 show desk top and i do not see my ext had drive in place how do i fix it ?00:35
aguitellost_cause, install ccsm00:35
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: M, like I said00:35
cmb151VIA VT1708/A it is not supported by alsa00:35
freeman_i tried adding a .sh script to my unity dock and it wont add. any ideas?00:35
MohammadAGubuntu_, most probably yeah00:35
lost_causeccsm. Thank you.00:35
abrswitched to #xubuntu00:35
cmb151what other thing can I use?00:35
rgrget a cheap alternative much easier if you can.00:35
MohammadAGnot sure about KDE apps in Unity though00:36
cmb15180:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)00:36
rgrif alsa is borked with your card you are entering support hell IMO. Get something that works.00:36
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, I only hear a hissing static noise when I do...00:36
ubuntu_MohammadAG,  thanks  once again, the usb installer wasnt too bad think ill  check it out on that.00:36
ubuntu_thanks again00:36
cmb151it used to work back with ubuntu 900:36
mis3ry#help00:36
cmb151still works with windows00:36
MohammadAGubuntu_, you're welcome :)00:37
freeman_why cant i add a .sh file to my dock?00:37
cmb151rgr: so you are saying no fix then, I must buy another card, or downgrade to 9?00:37
dios_mioI am about to use Gnome 3 PPA...00:37
KNUBBIGdios_mio: it will break Unity, just fyi00:37
pooltable i do not see my ext hard drive in place how do i fix it ?00:37
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: does the mic work in sound recorder though?00:38
dios_mioKNUBBIG, it has an alternative shell to unity, right?00:38
KNUBBIGdios_mio: yes, if it works fine for you than it's no problem that it breaks unity :)00:38
taseim trying to boot ubuntu live cd on this old laptop, but it's stuck on the part with the 5 dots under the ubuntu title, 10.10 i386 from usb, anyone know what I could do?00:38
teageHow would you kill a process running on a certain port00:38
NisstyreCan anybody please tell me what Unity is using only primary attributes?00:38
dios_mioKNUBBIG, I hated unity anyway.. I am using the classic desktop. heh00:39
RockjAaeRohn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601063/00:39
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, Can I give my own opinion?00:39
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: sure00:39
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KNUBBIGdios_mio: than it may be fine for yoU :)00:39
dios_mio:D00:39
testunzunity seems to be a crash00:39
RockjAaeRohn: I'm still around, had a visit by some old friend at the door at 1.30am :O00:39
christhecoolboyActionParsnip: I think that it is not aslamixer that is the problem, I think the mic needs to be fixed or "found"00:40
coreireI'm having trouble getting anything but Ubuntu to boot with grub2 that came with ubuntu 11.04. I've just installed grub legacy. Can anyone tell me the correct lines to add to menu.lst to get my windows 7 partition to boot? It's on /dev/sda100:40
JoseeAntonioRHello! Does anyone knows the Canonical Lexington office phone number?00:40
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KNUBBIGI'd actually like to try the new gnome shell but I won't risk breaking Unity :( Anybody knows if building gnome-shell from source also breaks Unity?00:40
BiosElementKNUBBIG: I'd say building it from source would be worse. If you install GnomeShell via debs, you can at least then remove it and install unity again.00:41
IsmAvatarI'm not sure if this is the Global Menu's or Firefox's fault, but when I middle-click a bookmark, it opens in the current tab, whereas in Ubuntu 10.10, it opened in a new tab. What's up?00:41
BiosElementIsmAvatar: Check Firefox settings, I suspect that's a firefox thing.00:41
KNUBBIGBiosElement: Hm, okay. So I'll have to use a VM as soon as I get back to my desktop00:41
SenixHow do I disable and enable desktop effects in Ubuntu 11.04????00:41
JoseeAntonioRDoes anyone knows where can I call Canonical USA?00:41
rgrwhy remove it at all?00:41
nsahooI was trying a cli version upgrade but it failed with a bunch of broken packages. Is there a way to fix it?00:42
KNUBBIGcoreire: grub2 didn't come with 11.04, actually, I'd say using legacy is not good at all00:42
rgrnsahoo: an upgrade of what to what?00:42
coolkid25ActionParsnip:00:42
aeon-ltdSenix: you mean compiz? alt-f2 'metacity --replace' will kill compiz and replace with metacity as the window manager00:42
ActionParsnipSenix: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace     to disable and:  compiz --replace     to eable00:42
KiboGood night guys. Maybe someone could help me? I might have rebooted my system before the upgrade to 11.04 was over (the login screen was showing "reboot needed" or something to that effect). Now the box won't boot, and the kernel/dist is not showing on GRUB screen. Can I salvage it with a 10.10 live (USB)?00:43
coolkid25Ok noe I have a rar file with a whole bunch of fikes in it?00:43
* Senix facepalms I want to TURN off all desktop effects00:43
nsahoorgr: to 11.0400:43
coolkid25Do i extract it ActionParsnip ?00:43
BiosElementnsahoo: sudo apt-get install --fix-broken or something along those lines should help.00:43
coreireKNUBBIG: I'm just trying it as a last resort. Every time i select windows the system just reboots back to grub00:43
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, you might be right about it being part of the soundcard, but how did I work before?!00:43
Kevin147Kibo: So, is it at the place where it shows grub> ?00:43
AaeRohnrockj: added lines, restart?00:43
KNUBBIGcoreire: I had that running fine some time again but I can't remember the exact line for the menu.lst, sorry. Maybe google will help you there :)00:43
deshymersupdated to 11.04 and unity isnt on by default, when I run unity --rest in ttyl1 and go back to ttyl7 I see unity over top of the old 10.10 desktop any suggestions?00:44
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: not sure man00:44
KiboWhen I reboot, the GRUB shows, but I only have 10.10's listed00:44
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: no, just md5 test it and burn it slowly to a cd00:44
kpomanhey all00:44
KNUBBIG!grub1 | coreire00:44
ubottucoreire: grub 1 is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub for Karmic onwards00:44
KNUBBIGmaybe00:44
coreireI've formatted, partitioned, and reinstalled the os's multiple times, in different orders, and it's just driving me nuts at this stage lol00:44
kpoman11.04 is buggy for you too guys ? for me it wont restart/stop. and ATI radeon stopped working00:44
RehanKibo: are you trying to hide the grub screen?00:44
coolkid25ActionParsnip: but its a winrar file?00:45
rgrcoreire: whats OSen? And why?00:45
KNUBBIGkpoman: is it just logging you out instead of rebooting/shutting down?00:45
rgrs/whats/what00:45
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: it'snot, your dumb OS makes it look like one because winrar can handle the file, that's all00:45
BKTech86hi, i'm trying to restore grub and i believe i have a separate boot partition from my linux partition, can anybody help me? the guides don't seem to work00:45
kpomanKNUBBIG: when I try to restart / stop, it just logs out and hangs00:45
KNUBBIGkpoman: okay same for me :@, didn't find a solution yet00:45
coreireKNUBBIG: Tried that already, but thanks00:45
kpomanKNUBBIG: even magic sysrq keys fail00:45
KiboRehan: No. The GRUB screen shows, I select the last kernel (still 10.10) and the boot stops, complaining of a disk not mounted....00:45
Kevin147KNUBBIG: same for me atm00:45
coolkid25ActionParsnip: Sorry. XD can i use a dvd to burn it00:45
coolkid25?00:45
christhecoolboyin device manager, under HDA NVidia Sound Card, there is... two things labled "ASLA Capture", In the info about them, one is: /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c and the other is: /dev/snd/pcmC0D2c and they are both: ALC888 Analog00:46
christhecoolboy^ ActionParsnip ^00:46
rgrwow, the same old issue from when I first tried Ubuntu 5 years ago. LOL. What a crock.00:46
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: did you download the DVD ISO?00:46
KNUBBIGcool we're not alone :)00:46
coreirergr: Windows 7, Ubuntu 11.04, Mandriva 2010.2.00:46
coolkid25ActionParsnip: i think i downloaded the cd iso00:46
coolkid25where is the dvd one?00:46
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: then no, you will need a CD media or the DVD ISO00:46
rgrinstall windows first. then the Linuxes. The run sudo update-grub for it to find win 7.00:46
AaeRohnRockj: added lines, saved, and still nothing00:46
RockjAaeRohn: you have to reboot now ;-)00:47
rgrwell, that worked for me with debian and win 7.00:47
coreirergr: did that. it breaks windows and mandriva00:47
coolkid25ActionParsnip: Where can I get the DVD iso?00:47
RockjAaeRohn: that command requires you to reboot your computer to take action.00:47
KiboKevin147: Sorry, no. The actual boot screen (to select the kernel version)00:47
coolkid25I don't see it as an option.00:47
rgrwhat does "break" mean in this context?00:47
rgryou sure you're not overwriting partitions?00:47
coreirergr: System reboot instantly on choosing windows. mandriva complains that the root partition is not set correctly00:48
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/ has the dvd00:48
IsmAvatarBiosElement: as I said, it happened in 11.04 and not 10.10, despite being ff4 in both versions. It sounds like more of an Ubuntu/Unity/Global Menu issue00:48
coolkid25thanks ActionParsnip :D00:48
Kevin147Kibo: Ahh okay, I see what you mean now.00:48
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: instead of asking basic questions, try searching a little00:49
rgrwell, you're optimisitc using a typically buggy pos release like 11.04 with multi boot imo. It might and probably does screw up your partitions on install ;)00:49
kpomanwhat I dont understand is why, if I had the same kernel **before** the upgrade, my ATI stopped working (DRI disabled)00:49
NestoHey guys, I was wonder if I could get some help real quick.... I have a Win7 desktop, and a ubuntu desktop (11.04) that I want to use as a printer server, but right now I'm trying to remote into the ubuntu desktop but I can't. I can remote into my windows from the ubuntu desktop but not the other way around. I have tried quite a few tuts i found online but to no avail...00:49
KiboKevin147: Sorry for the poor explaining. :-)00:49
kpomanif someone know how to troubleshot / solve this ? X is unusable in vesa mode (1680x1050)00:50
ohsixrgr: #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions00:50
rgrNesto: what have you tried? Have you run firestarter?00:50
coreirergr: I'm starting to agree. I might just go back to 10.1000:50
truepurpleActionParsnip: What do you have against ATI?00:50
ohsixrgr: also unsubstantiated assertions don't help anyone00:50
rgrcoreire: Ubuntu releases are a farce.00:50
Nestorgr, firestarter?00:50
KNUBBIG!downgrade00:50
ubottuAttempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.00:50
KNUBBIG:p00:50
rgrhow did you try to connect?00:50
kpomanwhy with same kernel between 10.10 and 11.04 does ATI fail now to load DRM ?00:50
ohsixrgr: it sounds like you don't really want to be here to help people00:50
j_anon1How do I access an external device in Narwhal?00:50
ActionParsniptruepurple: they didn't support linux for a long time, nvidia have beeen doing it for ages and do it well, so I use them00:50
Nestorgr, I tried out remote desktop, vnc, and thats about it00:50
kpomanif someone know anything here ?00:50
coolkid25ActionParsnip: Sorry, I have one more question though, does the DVD ISO support DVD+Rs?00:50
belinrahsFor the record: If you really hate Unity, just choose Ubuntu Classic when you login and everything back to normal. Thank you.00:51
rgrtry ssh directly00:51
j_anon1External drive, i mean.00:51
ActionParsniptruepurple: also seen too many issues with them and seen few with nvidia00:51
rgrenable port 22 of course.00:51
ActionParsnipcoolkid25: yes00:51
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KiboKevin147: Do you know if I CHROOT to the partition and do a dist-upgrade would work?00:51
rgras for "firestarter" - google it00:51
truepurpleActionParsnip: Well I've heard of issues with both, and asked about nvdia and ATI regarding linux here before, and was told ATI was good for linux00:51
ohsixrgr: you need to enable remote access00:51
ohsixrgr: ubuntu uses ufw/00:51
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ohsixNesto: enable remote access first00:52
rgrtruepurple: who told you that? The same bull artist who told people that xorg.conf is defunct ?00:52
steve1KNUBBIG: no luck so far remapping the fields, though I did found in CCSM that I could create custom "commands" that map to CLI commands.  I suppose that'll do.00:52
kpomanwhy with same kernel between 10.10 and 11.04 does ATI fail now to load DRM ? Help !00:52
ohsixNesto: then you would use a vnc client00:52
truepurpleActionParsnip: Main reason I went radeon is that it is more efficient for your performance energy wize then radeon00:52
rgrkpoman: stop reteating00:52
rgrrpeating00:52
Nestoohsix,  I did enable remote access00:52
KNUBBIGsteve1: oh cool, thanks00:52
Kevin147Kibo: hmm, I'm not sure... I never had that problem, so yeah :/ today, I had a different problem where grub2 wouldn't recognize my kernel :/00:52
kpomanrgr: I slightly changed the sentece00:52
ohsixNesto: what client did you use?00:52
rgrtruepurple: who told you that? LOL!00:52
AaeRohnRockj: eet works now :D00:52
truepurplergr: I have no idea, I ask for advice, and am given it, I don't usually know the credentials of the people who give out advice00:52
ActionParsniptruepurple: its a case of !wfm. I back nvidia so I buy their stuff00:52
ohsixrgr: save your opinions00:53
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, do you know how I know that the mic is not built in to the Speakers/Soundcard?00:53
Nestoohsix, I used remote desktop buit into windows and vnc viewer00:53
BKTech86ActionParsnip: should grub be installed in the boot folder or in / ?00:53
ohsixrgr: if you want to debate it, #ubuntu-desktop00:53
KiboKevin147: Well, I think the worse it could do is finish destroying the install... Not too different of the current situation... :-)00:53
ActionParsnipBKTech86: i'm no good with grub dude00:53
truepurplergr: Who told me what? That radeon is more efficient? I learned it myself from looking at many many reviews00:53
ohsixNesto: right, but what vnc viewer; mstsc wouldn't be expected to work00:53
rgrtruepurple: so use google and check for yourself. Never accept blindly in somewhere like a Linux channel. There are too many clueless zealots with a political eganda. Seriously.00:53
ActionParsnipBKTech86: I single boot linux so have had nothing to do with it except adding boot options00:53
ohsix!ot | rgr00:53
ubotturgr: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!00:53
rgrtruepurple: is it a laptop?00:53
Kevin147Kibo: Alright lol00:53
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: how?00:53
truepurplergr I did use SE, but it didn't come up with anything definitive00:53
BKTech86is anyone here an expert with grub?00:54
Nestoohsix: i don't know, I just downloaded something from their website00:54
rgrwho triggered that bot? This IS Ubuntu support.00:54
truepurplergr: No, a desktop I put together myself00:54
KiboKevin147: I'll keep you posted... ;-)00:54
ohsixNesto: from realvnc or something?00:54
Kevin147Alrightiz :P00:54
christhecoolboyActionParsnip: The Specifications for the computer say "Webcam - 1 x 1.3MP webcam with microphone"00:54
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stravantAfter updating to 11.04 all of the text for application file menus at the top of the screen, as well as the date/time indicator is the exact same color as the background, so I can't see it, does anyone have this problem or know how to fix it?00:54
rgrWell, if you're such a noob then I suggest nvidia over ati. but good luck anyway.00:54
Nestoohsix: Yes, from realvnc00:54
ohsixNesto: did you set a password or to ask you when someone connects in the remote access options?00:54
tensorpuddingi just noticed that my unity file lens says my home directory is devoid of files, which is quite incorrect00:54
ohsix!ot | rgr00:54
Nestoohsix: i set a password, but not to ask when someone connects00:54
KNUBBIGstravant: may be a problem with your theme, had that too00:55
j_anon1How do I access a usb drive in Narwhal?00:55
stravantIt's one of the standard themes00:55
ohsixNesto: hm, try it without a password, but to ask00:55
truepurplersr: There are pleny of clueless websites and blind leads and dead search ends online too, but I got to go somewhere for information00:55
stravantWhere do I go to change the theme again, I can't fin it now00:55
rgrtruepurple: of course.00:55
RockjAaeRohn: awesome :-)00:55
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: is the webcam inbuilt to the system?00:55
ohsixNesto: i don't know what vnc protocol stuff the builtin vnc server uses, i've just used vino and it worked00:55
AaeRohnROckj: thank you man, have a good one00:55
rgrbut earlier you seemed unaware that there is a wiki dedicated to video issues. Try it.00:55
rgra lot is trial and error and hard work.00:56
ohsixrgr: url to said wiki?00:56
ActionParsnipj_anon1: plug it in and it willmount, assuming it was safetly removed last time it was unplugged00:56
ohsixrgr: trial and error is garbage00:56
RockjAaeRohn: conclution, drivers were installed but dmesg only registered it as a standard usb storage device, so we had to poke it to switch usb mode or something. That we can do by udev which is a system of rules for setting up devices that your operating system uses to speak with the devices.00:56
rgrj_anon1: plug it on and browse...00:56
Rockj"dmesg shows us it was only registerd as a ..."00:56
christhecoolboyActionParsnip: Yes... look at: http://www.avadirect.com/product_print.asp?info=1&PRID=14843 [Top Picture, Tag 4 & 5...00:56
Nestoohsix: how do you use vino00:56
Kevin147stravant: You can change it by searching in Unity, "Appearance"00:56
truepurpleActionParsnip: What is "!wfm"?00:56
tjiggi_forgr, wiki link?00:57
ohsixrgr: namely because nobody knows what "error" is, so when they find something that works they've found a nonsolution or work around00:57
rgrI already gave the google string. Its really not hard.00:57
hypodermiai have no audible system bell in natty. any ideas, anyone?00:57
DaekdroomWhat is the command that displays all devices that are mounted, where they are mounted and where the devices are in the filesystem?00:57
j_anon1ActionParsnip, it is plugged in, but then what? There's no "Places" in the taskbar and "files and folders" just includes Downloads, Music, etc.00:57
ohsixNesto: it's the vnc client that comes with ubuntu, i just start it from applications -> internet00:57
hypodermiaDaekdroom: mount00:57
j_anon1and it's not displayed on the desktop00:57
ohsix!google | rgr00:57
ubotturgr: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.00:57
g0tResults for | rgr on Google:00:57
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Daekdroomhypodermia, thank you00:57
ActionParsnipj_anon1: when you last used it successfully, how did you remove it from the system?00:57
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: you'll most likely find that its part of the soundcard, not the webcam00:58
ohsixrgr: i'll ask again if you aren't going to help people to please not speak at all; there are a lot of people looking for help00:58
j_anon1I didn't last use it on that computer. This is the first time I have plugged it in.00:58
Nestoohsix, I'm trying to remote from windows 7 to ubuntu00:58
KNUBBIGNesto: try putty00:58
j_anon1what's SUPPOSED to happen in narwhal?00:59
ohsixNesto: yes i know, and you said realvnc doesn't work; i said you could try to set it to "ask" instead of taking a password to see if it asks, you haven't done that yet00:59
christhecoolboyActionParsnip: but when it says "Webcam with Microphone" doesnt that mean they are together? They are centimeters apart...00:59
ZenGuy311 Nesto vnc or teamviewer00:59
christhecoolboy*Imply00:59
christhecoolboynot mean xD00:59
Kevin147ohsix: teamviewer00:59
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: you'll nee dto investigate, having 2 mics on a system like that would be really silly00:59
ohsixKevin147: not helping00:59
ohsixKevin147: if something doesn't work that is supposed to work, you don't just try something else00:59
NestoI don't want to use teamviewer... I want to access my computer over my network, not my internet01:00
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, there is a mic port at the back, for cabled mics and a pic with the webcam...01:00
christhecoolboy*mic01:00
Nestoohsix: I did do that... but still nothing....  :/01:00
ohsixNesto: let me know if it asks you to let someone connect if you connect without a password assigned01:00
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: not sure then, sounds like a mess. Got a wired mic to plug into the micport ust for the now?01:00
ZenGuy311Nesto: have you can use teamviewer on local lan only01:00
ohsixZenGuy311: see what i said to Kevin14701:00
Kevin147..01:01
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, It wont let me select any options on Input on the sound thing, so no, ;'(01:01
BKTech86hi, my computer won't boot windows or ubuntu, can someone help me ?01:01
whodevilwhat happened to the system tray and gnome pannel widgets in 10.4?01:01
Kevin147ohsix: I was just suggesting something, no biggie01:01
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: then I've no more solutions. My sound always just works because I shop smart01:01
Nestohmmm.... really ZenGuy311? I shall try that out instead01:01
j_anon1Should Narwhal be showing my external drive on the desktop and when i click Files and Folders?01:01
ohsixKevin147: right, but i'm trying to figure out why the one thing isn't working; suggestions appreciated but distracting people is not01:01
aj00200It appears that Unity just has some problems with a dual-screen setup01:01
ohsixaaaouhrouarh sigh01:01
KNUBBIG!error | BKTech8601:01
ubottuBKTech86: Please elaborate, your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)01:01
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: others may be able to advise, but you said there was a hole to plug in a mic, find an external mic and use that01:02
j_anon1Considering it is recognized in the GNOME version01:02
KNUBBIGaj00200: dual-screen works fine for me01:02
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, I shopped the best I could, I needed  a PC that had stereo mix so I could record PC sound as well... But thanks for your help...01:02
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: no worries man01:02
aj00200KNUBBIG: it may have been that I have my screen setup as being above my laptop screen01:02
ohsixNesto: good luck, you won't get any support for that, maybe Kevin147 and ZenGuy311 will help you, but it's not software ubuntu distributes so they won't be doing it here01:02
russjr08Does anyone know if WUBI is working with 11.04 yet?01:03
Nestoah ok ohsix, well I can probably figure the team viewer part myself... anyways thanks ohsix01:03
KNUBBIGaj00200: that may be true, mine at home is standard with additional display on the right. Sorry, can't say anything about additional one placed above.01:03
BKTech86i had windows 7 and ubuntu side by side for a long time, windows 7 requested a repair operation and I let it do so, it then made my hard drive unbootable at all (i assume grub is gone) using guide to restore grub has not worked, please help thanks01:03
ffksadfdlCan anyone tell me why my indicators are gone?01:03
ohsixNesto: hopefully the problem you're having isn't a genuine bug, as it won't be found and won't be reported now :[01:03
aj00200KNUBBIG: ok. Maybe I'll try putting it to the right. I could get used to it after a while01:04
KNUBBIG!grub | BKTech8601:04
ubottuBKTech86: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)01:04
KiboKevin147: Just an update... Tried the apt-get dist-upgrade, the machine complained and asked for a "dpkg --configure -a". It's still running, I think it's finishing the upgrade... Still hopeful... ;-)01:04
BKTech86KNUBBIG: using guides to restore grub has not worked01:04
toto654windows 7 has no problem coexisting with ubuntu01:04
kpomanok... I am now in ubuntu ! do someone know what could be wrong with radeon and X ? Why is it now failing to load with DRI ?01:04
Kevin147Kibo: yeah it must be, so when that finishes it should work :)01:04
Nestoohsix, i think that it's something with my network01:04
KiboKevin147: I hope so!! lol01:04
Kevin147Kibo: Good luck dude! :P01:05
kpomanI do have errors on Xorg.0.log like "[    34.288] (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch." and some segfaults on fglrx tools01:05
stravantI have a dual screen setup and always use chrome on the left screen, with the unity desktop there's an extra panel at the top of the left screen wasting vertical space, which chrome never uses. It there likely no solution to this?01:05
KiboKevin147: Thanks a bunch, man! ;)01:05
ohsixNesto: could be, easy enough to check; try and connect to port 5900 on the machine with vnc, though realvnc should have told you if it failed to connect01:05
Kevin147Kibo: np01:05
ohsixNesto: if it's just your lan i think it's something else; different authentication options and stuff are supported and if theres no common set between the viewer and the server it won't let you authenticate and stuff01:06
Nestoohsix, yea vnc says error connecting01:06
RKyleHow would I permanently disable the synatpics touchpad on my laptop?01:06
ohsixNesto: okie dokie01:06
awakeningI have a question which might have a simple answer, can someone point me in the right direction for a dvd player app for ubuntu?01:06
Nestoohsix, also, for some reason my laptop get's really really slow download speeds01:07
ohsixNesto: can you post the output of sudo iptables -L -v as ran from a terminal to a pastebin?01:07
KNUBBIG!dvd | awakening01:07
ubottuawakening: Ubuntu's default installation and repositories do not include packages needed to play commercial DVDs for legal reasons. For information on adding them, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs | For information on the legalities involved, see the "DVD" section of https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats01:07
Nestoit seems   to be an asus/ubuntu problem01:07
ohsixNesto: over wifi, and with an ath9k atheros device?01:07
Nestoohsix, let me get on my laptop real quick01:07
awakeningKNUBBIG, "!dvd" is the name of the app?01:07
ohsixNesto: i don't have a solution, but if it is an ath9k device i can say you're not the only one ;]01:08
KNUBBIGawakening: no, I think you'd need vlc and libdvdcss201:08
hypodermialemme ask this. does anybody else running natty under unity have an audible system bell?01:08
Nestoohsix, I think so... cuz a quite a few Asus people seem to be having the same problem01:08
Logan_awakening: Read the message that ubottu wrote.01:08
KNUBBIGawakening: see the tutorial, that should help :)01:08
awakeningokay thanks01:09
awakeningI appreciate it01:09
* crlcan81 waits on 11.04 to finish installing.01:10
* KNUBBIG waited 5 hours for that01:10
crlcan81I slept through most of the downloading.01:11
jm0can anyone help me i have royally messed up my system01:11
ohsixit's like christmas!01:11
crlcan81three or so hours.01:11
KNUBBIGjm0: please tell us what exactly did you do?01:11
crlcan81the installing only took like.. is taking, maybe two hours or so, so ya, about five hours total.01:11
KNUBBIGcrlcan81: I have only 1mbit down here ... took 5 hours even to dl :D01:11
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nesto1000ohsix: http://pastebin.com/H6aatrgG01:12
* crlcan81 has 10-1201:12
crlcan81sometimes 15 with 'powerboost' as they call it, but that doesn't apply to this.01:12
ohsixnesto1000: ok thanks, fw is not involved at all and rgr was steering you into the weeds :]01:12
crlcan812 or 3 is my up if I remember right.01:12
FoolsRunOkay, here's an easy one. I have a fix I need to apply that suggests the following:  echo lirc > /sys/class/rc/rc0/protocols  Which is great except that I don't have an rc0 directory. Do I just create it?01:12
doncamshi. I upgraded to 11.04 but now my startup manager doesn't work01:12
nesto1000ohsix: What? lol01:13
DaekdroomGuys, should a CD md5sum match the ISO's md5sum?01:13
ohsixnesto1000: the firewall is not in the picture; there are no rules in it, so rgr was leading you to a dead end01:13
tjiggi_foDaekdroom, exactly!01:13
sebsebsebDaekdroom: yes01:14
DaekdroomOk, thank you.01:14
jm0KNUBBIG: well I deleted my linux partitions, and then merged the space with my c: drive. Now when i boot i dont get any GRUB menu but goes straight to grub rescue..........but i got it to load a windows recovery disk ill see what i can do01:14
sebsebsebDaekdroom: ISO should  have the same code, as the mirror/webpage01:14
HAXEPdoncams: have u tried to reinstall the start-up manager?01:14
unc0nn3ct3dEvening folks, I can't seem to get my atheros wireless nic to connect to my router and I've tried everything I could think of and/or google.  No errors, iwlist scanning shows the router just fine, but I can't connect in terminal.01:15
BufferUnderpantsHello folks01:15
KNUBBIGman how I hate pressing ctrl alt f12 instead of just f1201:15
BufferUnderpantsI have some Skype trouble01:15
doncamsyes. i did reinstall01:15
BKTech86can anyone help me restore grub please?  I've tried using grub-install on my linux partition, but it doesn't work01:15
jm0KNUBBIG: well I deleted my linux partitions, and then merged the space with my c: drive. Now when i boot i dont get any GRUB menu but goes straight to grub rescue..........but i got it to load a windows recovery disk ill see what i can do01:15
Daekdroomsebsebseb, yeah, but I'm wondering wether the CD is damaged.01:15
ubuntu_hello, i'm getting grub error 17 after freshly installing 11.04 (over an older install). i tried rearranging my hard drives' order in bios, to no avail01:16
aeon-ltd!fixgrub | BKTech8601:16
ubottuBKTech86: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)01:16
ubuntu_what next?01:16
HAXEPBufferUnderpants: what are they?01:16
KNUBBIGBKTech86: you managed to boot into ubuntu?01:16
BufferUnderpantsI updated it on Maverick and now the sound pops and it crashes pulseaudio01:16
BKTech86KNUBBIG: with CD yea01:16
KNUBBIGBKTech86: you might be able to chroot and then completely purge and reinstall grub see !chroot01:17
BKTech86!chroot01:17
ubottuA chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot01:17
awakeningAlright, I downloaded Kaffeine, but I'm actually having some trouble installing it...a newb at this01:17
giampaolois there someone who appreciates the new UI?01:17
trihopeKM0201: r u back01:17
KM0201trihope: yup01:18
BKTech86KNUBBIG: sorry, i don't follow.  purge what?01:18
BufferUnderpantsSo I was wondering if someone had run into the same problem with Skype or if at least ir runs well on 11.0401:18
ubuntu_aeon-ltd - i'm pretty sure it's picking up an older grub01:18
KNUBBIGBKTech86: apt-get remove --purge grub* and then reinstall grub or grub-legacy01:18
BKTech86KNUBBIG: while booted from CD?01:19
MrBeanHi, the remote desktop option hangs often when I do ubuntu to ubuntu connection, since lucid I think, is it a known bug? the remote vnc crashes.01:19
KNUBBIGBKTech86: if you chroot correctly, it should be possible (sorry I'm no expert with chrooting)01:19
BKTech86KNUBBIG: you're saying to use chroot after mounting my real linux partition and then install grub there?01:20
introublei have many rows in ms excel/oo worksheet containing numbers like 03004210000 , 030042510000 and so on. i can manullay scroll them and make a list of 03004210000 to 03004219999 (ten thousand each) but its very hard to do it for all. is there an automatic way?01:20
christhecoolboycould anyone else try and help me with this mic problem?01:20
unc0nn3ct3dMrBean : have you tried reducing your graphic settings to the bare min for that VNC connetion?01:20
KNUBBIGBKTech86: yes I think that should be possible01:20
DaekdroomHas anyone else bumped into the LiveCD's internal integrity test indicating errors while the ISO and CD md5sums match?01:20
BKTech86KNUBBIG: you don't think apt-get knows where the real / is?01:21
ohsixDaekdroom: only on bad media i burned at it's "rated" speed, try burning it at 4x or lower01:21
MrBeanunc0nn3ct3d no, I'll try that thanks.01:21
Daekdroomohsix, but the md5sum from the CD matches too01:21
kpomanguys please I pasted here my Xorg.0.log debug information. I dont understand why my "supported card" isnt working after upgrade to 11.04: http://pastebin.com/nKRxwuuU01:21
BKTech86arand: i mounted my linux partition and did a grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda01:21
kpomanany clues ? any help really welcome !01:21
SinnerNyxTrying to disable 11.04 screen blanking in ubuntu server01:22
ohsixDaekdroom: the optical drives age can affect how fast it can actually burn too, a rarely used drive might only be able to manage half it's speed reliably01:22
awakeningCan someone explain to me how to create an empty build directory?01:22
KNUBBIGBKTech86: that's what chroot is for, isn't it?01:22
BufferUnderpantsSo... anyone using Skype on Natty?01:22
BKTech86arand: it said it was successful, and i see a grub folder in my linux partition/boot/01:22
KNUBBIGBufferUnderpants: yep, no problem here01:22
arandBKTech86: But what happens on boot?01:22
BKTech86KNUBBIG: isn't apt-get different than other programs though?01:22
unc0nn3ct3dMrBean: yea when I was living in Colombia connecting to my VNC in Canada I had to do that to ge tit to work01:22
BufferUnderpantsKNUBBIG: ok, maybe I should try updating...01:22
BKTech86arand: the hard disk won't boot at all01:23
ohsixDaekdroom: i see01:23
awakeningBKTech86, might be different from...01:23
ohsixDaekdroom: where did you get the image?01:23
arandBKTech86: You don't even see a grub message?01:23
KNUBBIGBKTech86: I'm not sure but I don't think so01:23
BKTech86arand: right01:23
arandBKTech86: Do you only have one disk?01:23
BKTech86arand: yes01:23
unc0nn3ct3dSo anyone feel like helping me troubleshoot this wireless network problem?  Everything connected fine in 10.04 from inside xserver but now in 11.04 without xserver I can see the AP but I just can't connect to it :(01:23
arand!bootinfoscript | BKTech8601:24
Daekdroomohsix, well, it's not actually my issue, but the guy got the image from the official torrent.01:24
SinnerNyxTrying to disable screen blanking in ubuntu server 11.0401:24
kaz56can anyone help with upgrading to 11.04? getting a fetch error01:24
arandBKTech86: Sorry, I'm trying to find a link..01:24
ohsixDaekdroom: for ubuntu right? not kubuntu or some 3rd party derived version?01:24
Daekdroomohsix, right, ubuntu01:25
introublei have many rows in ms excel/oo worksheet containing numbers like 03004210000 , 030042510000 and so on. i can manullay scroll them and make a list of 03004210000 to 03004219999 (ten thousand each) but its very hard to do it for all. is there an automatic way?01:25
ohsixDaekdroom: are you verifying that the burned cd md5 matches on the same drive that is reading it when checked from the boot menu?01:25
kanuhaIs there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?01:26
kaz56can anyone help with upgrading to 11.04? please01:28
Kevin147kaz56: sure01:28
meisth0thkaz56, what's problem?01:28
KNUBBIGHe's getting a fetch error01:28
kanuhaIs there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?01:28
kaz56Thank you, I keep getting a fetch error01:28
meisth0thkaz56, can you pastebin the full error please?01:29
RockjQ: when logging back into gnome2 session, it seems like the latest ubuntu have changed some compiz settings, I noticed the same behaviour under unity. My problem is that if Im not using "raise on click" , I won't be able to raise other window infront. Normally I do this by alt+mouseclicking a window. Any suggestions on how to fix?01:29
SinnerNyxTrying to disable screen blanking in ubuntu server 11.0401:29
SusibravGuten Abend, ich hoffe ich störe nicht01:29
KNUBBIG!de | Susibrav01:29
ubottuSusibrav: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.01:29
plustaxWhat can I use in ubuntu to burn an iso cd?01:29
plustaxI need to burn windows 7 to disc so I can use it for my other computer01:30
SusibravI m sorry01:30
KNUBBIG!burn | plustax01:30
ubottuplustax: CD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto01:30
kaz56You don't have permission to access /ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xulrunner-2.0/xulrunner-2.0-mozjs_2.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_i386.deb on this server.01:30
KNUBBIGSusibrav: no need to be sorry :)01:30
Susibravok01:30
SusibravI m german01:31
SusibravMy english is not very well01:31
KNUBBIGSusibrav: that's why I suggested #ubuntu-de ;-)01:31
ohsixRockj: you can change the compiz settings with ccsm, only some settings are migrated between .8 and .9 versions of compiz01:31
SusibravI would like to meet people01:32
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stravantWith the update my sound seems to have broken. It's not *broken*, it works perfectly fine, however it refuses to unmute, it will play for a second and go right back to being muted. Has anyone else had this problem?01:32
Nestoohsix: I figured out the problem...  -__-01:32
spacebug-KNUBBIG: may I ask. You are not swedish are you?01:32
Rockjohsix: I got something called CompizConfig Settings Manager01:32
KNUBBIGspacebug-: hehe no I'm not, but I know what KNUBBIG means, I just like the sound of the word. Discovered at IKEA :-)01:33
Dominaterhow do i create users on the ftp server? i just installed vsftpd01:33
Nestoohsix: For some reason I was putting a 2 as the last number for my host, instead of putting what it actually was... a 901:33
spacebug-KNUBBIG: hehe ok thats why I asked ;)01:33
kaz56meisth0th: did you see the error?01:33
ohsixNesto: nice :]01:33
ohsixRockj: that's it01:33
KNUBBIGspacebug-: thought so :-)01:33
Flare183Alright, I'm here to help01:33
Rockjohsix: oh, that is ccsm, and I have ticked of  "Raise on Click" under General Options -> Focus & Raise behaviour but I'm unable to alt+click a window to make it pop in front of other windows01:33
* Flare183 is a ubuntu dev01:33
kanuhaIs there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?01:33
meisth0thkaz56, looks like your mirror is not up-to-date or something01:33
Flare183Kevin147: I'm here bro01:33
meisth0thtry another mirror01:34
doncamsis it ok to ask here... how do I completely remove LAMP from ubuntu01:34
bkerensayes01:34
bkerensause apt-get remove01:34
KNUBBIGI might be too suspicious but I doubt that01:34
bkerensadoncams: Use apt-get remove lamp-server01:34
Flare183doncams: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 php5 mysql-server01:34
Kevin147Flare183: alright, sweet :P01:34
Dominaterhow do i create users on the ftp server? i just installed vsftpd01:34
demlasjrsorry...I have one question related the fprint_demo....I'm getting libusb couldn't open USB device /dev/bus/usb/007/002: Permission denied.01:34
demlasjrlibusb requires write access to USB device nodes. Tried to search on internet but nothing just a old bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fprint-demo/+bug/64274501:34
ubottuUbuntu bug 642745 in fprint-demo (Ubuntu) "fprint can't access fingerprint reader" [Undecided,New]01:34
demlasjrAny solution ?01:34
bkerensaFlare183: Why not apt-get remove lamp-server ?01:35
doncamsthanks01:35
doncamsand if I installed suphp?01:35
ohsixRockj: you probably need to bind it, alt+click(+drag) starts a drag for the move plugin too01:35
bkerensadoncams: It will go too01:35
bkerensa:)01:35
kaz56meisth0th: ok let me ask you this though. I burnt the alternative iso disc too, why is that trying to fetch something from online?01:35
doncamsthanks. linux noob here01:35
ohzieDominater: vsftp uses your system's users by default, I believe.01:35
Flare183bkerensa: Because, if you removed those packages it will autoremove once you sudo apt-get autoremove them01:35
Flare183Dominater: I recommend using proftpd01:35
Flare183Just imo01:35
doncamsi guess i need to read a book bout linux first01:35
meisth0thalternative? may it be net install iso?01:35
Flare183!alternative | meisth0th01:36
ubottumeisth0th: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal01:36
bkerensaDominater: I concur with Flare183... proftpd for the win01:36
demlasjranyone please ?01:36
Rockjohsix: the alt+click(+drag) works for moving the window, but it still moves behind other windows . Latest started program is the window with heighest z-index you could say...01:36
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Dominaterproftpd is better?01:36
bkerensademlasjr: Have you ran apport?01:36
demlasjrno01:36
thejonbi'm getting a 404 not found error on a few of my maverick repositories.  Are some of the repositories offline because of traffic?01:36
bkerensaDominater: In most cases yes01:36
ohsixRockj: hm dunno what to say, it raises windows here01:36
Dominaterthanks01:37
kaz56yes that one01:37
meisth0thi've used net install disc a few times but didn't use alternate, i don't know01:37
Flare183thejonb: its very possible yes, due to the massive traffic that the Ubuntu Servers (esp the US ones atm), you might get a 404 on some of them.01:37
doncamsi get this error Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)01:37
Flare183meisth0th: The alternative installer is just a texted based installer (based on the debian installer)01:37
bkerensathejonb: I would wait a few hours imho01:38
Flare183!dpkglock | doncams01:38
Flare183crap01:38
bkerensadoncams: !dpkglock01:38
meisth0thFlare183, i see but i don't know the answer of kaz56's question01:38
doncamsthanks01:38
KNUBBIGdoncams: used sudo or have another apt-get process runing?01:38
ohsixRockj: the general options have raise & focus behavior tab01:38
kaz56Flare183: shouldn't it have all the packages?01:38
bkerensaeck01:38
bkerensadamn xchat script :P01:38
Flare183!aptlock | doncams\01:38
ubottudoncams\: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »01:38
alteariusI just upgraded to 11.04.  Now X won't start and my console window is unreadable. I can SSH in from another machine.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log says the NVIDIA module failed to load and no drivers are available.  How do I repair this?01:38
doncamsoh... my synaptic is open01:39
doncamsmy bad01:39
Flare183altearius: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg01:39
Flare183I think01:39
ohsixRockj: and the binding tab has binds for window raising stuff01:39
Flare183doncams: that's the problem :P01:39
Rockjohsix: mhm, and that's where I untick all 3 first boxes so I get focus selected by mouse move, then I normally would use alt+mouseclick to raise the window.01:39
thejonbwhat concerns me is that the repositories that are returning 404 errors are the main maverick sources and main 1386 packages repos01:39
ohsixRockj: then look at the bindings page :]01:39
doncamslol01:39
Rockjohsix: oh, control button 6 , hm01:39
ohsixthejonb: that's normal01:40
Rockjohsix: wonder what button that is :O01:40
Flare183I'll be honest everyone, I don't like the unity stuff. and I'll be the one to step up and say that when the devs where going to put unity in, I didn't like it.01:40
ohsixthejonb: unless you get an error reported from apt or whatever is fetching packages you can ignore it01:40
Kevin147!ot | Flare18301:40
ubottuFlare183: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:40
ohsixFlare183: this is a help channel01:40
Flare183Kevin147: don't give me that bro :P01:40
djr013Flare183: You can always download Gnome3 or any other DE, for example.01:40
Flare183ohsix: and um duh, I'm one of the developers x.x01:40
bazhangFlare183, its the wrong place for it01:41
alteariusFlare183: That command executes immediately and doesn't seem to actually do anything. =/01:41
Flare183-_-01:41
KNUBBIGFlare183: doesn't matter, ot is ot01:41
ohsixFlare183: also the review period for changes in unity was very long, this is the release01:41
* Flare183 sighs01:41
Flare183I know people >.<01:41
thejonbohsix: ok cool.  guess i'll keep trying back periodically01:41
thejonbthanks01:41
thiendoes it work if i bring my hdd with  a Ubuntu system to another computer?01:42
djr013Will 11.04 see feature improvements in Unity, or will those all be put off for 11.10?01:42
djr013I mean, bugfixes that border on being new features.01:43
Rockjohsix: that seems to do the trick. just rebinded it to some other key. Tho, I think alt+mouseclick was standard unix/x11 behaviour from old days. Worked aslong as I can remember I think. Anyway, no problem remapping it, just had to know where :-)01:43
ohsixdjr013: 11.04 will be supported as it is now, just like any release would; features are generally not accepted for stable release updates, only fixes and for security issues01:43
ohsixRockj: there was no standard behavior, it's always been up to whatever window manager you were running01:43
dibshttp://pastie.org/1849172  Can someone help me get upgraded, it fails for me01:43
afederis there a dev channel for ubuntu?01:43
Rockjohsix: ok, been working for me as long as I can remember at least - hehe.01:44
Flare183afeder: #ubunut-dev01:44
djr013ohsix: Alright, I was unsure simply because of the massive UI changes and potential for broad bugs in the interface and functionality.01:44
Flare183#ubuntu-dev *01:44
kjxl9minute01:44
afederFlannel, thanks but i only see like 4 people there?01:44
ohsixRockj: right :] just saying, a lot of stuff is grandfathered without too much thought, until it isn't01:44
alteariusHow do I look at my system's kernel log?01:44
Flannelafeder: It's #ubuntu-devel, not #ubuntu-dev01:44
Flare183afeder: Yes, but why would you like to talk to the devs?01:44
Flare183Flannel: bleh, I'm getting rusty at this again xD01:44
afederFlannel, ah okay thanks01:44
ohsixdjr013: then you'd probably get into an argument with someone over a definition of "bug" :]01:45
afederFlare183, because i want to contribute? unless u try to stop me :)01:45
djr013haha perhaps01:45
namzezamUnpacking replacement linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic ...01:45
namzezamdpkg: ../../src/archives.c:809: tarobject: Assertion `r == stab.st_size' failed.01:45
namzezamWhat shall i do? This is more than 2 weeks now, that i can not upgrade. I did post the bug. Can not remove, nor reinstall this linux header . This is too bad and it is unsolved too long time. What shall i do?01:45
FloodBot3namzezam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:45
Flare183afeder: of course I'm not going to stop you.01:45
thiendoes it work if i bring my hdd with  a Ubuntu system to another computer?01:45
ohsixdjr013: when working from a design you have one large creative work that pretty much stands alone, you can disagree with the design but it doesn't get to the level of a bug, which is sometimes unfortunate01:45
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quellhorsti have a ubuntu server iso, i want to get the desktop env also. what packages should i select?01:46
RoastedIs there a system requirements section in regard to Ubuntu Unity? I know about Ubuntu's spec, but I'm curious at what point users should decide from 2D or 3D Unity.01:46
Flare183quellhorst: ubuntu-desktop01:46
IdleOnequellhorst: ubuntu-desktop01:46
bazhangquellhorst, ubuntu-desktop01:46
ohsixquellhorst: ubuntu-desktop01:46
KNUBBIGwow :D01:46
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ohsixhah he didn't even do it right01:46
Flare183fail01:46
quellhorstso i see --- ubuntu-desktop (246) ... but it just expands to a bunch of packages, not all of them are related.01:46
Guest68551i just installed the latest ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal, and now it doesn't recognize my nvidia video card01:47
ohsixhe just got a lot of people to connect to 81.178.210.42 though01:47
p_resGuest68551: did it before?01:47
stravantMy sound is "stuck" muted after the update. It *is* working, but it re-mutes itself after a second of playing every time I unmute it. How can I fix this? All I can find are bugs for this which are supposedly already fixed.01:47
dibsis ActionParsnip about??01:47
dibs http://pastie.org/1849172  Can someone help me get upgraded, it fails for me01:47
hugelgupfcan somebody tell me what software is included in ubuntu-edu-tertiary? I've been trying to look for a list, but all i can find is that it's university-related software01:47
djr013thien: It should work fine with particular exemptions, for example if you have X configured for a particular setup.01:47
kjxl9hey guys01:48
Rockjdoes that dcc exploit still work? Thought that was fixed in irc clients ages ago . (offtopic)01:48
p_reskjxl9: hey.01:48
Guest68551p_res, did it before what?01:48
p_resGuest68551: before natty, was it recognized?01:48
ohsixstravant: is it doing it right now?01:49
dibsWhere can I get help with UBUNTU?01:49
stravantYes01:49
ohsixRockj: it wasn't in irc clients, but the router01:49
KNUBBIGdibs: here01:49
Guest68551yes it came up fine, ran the update and now i have to select safe mode when i boot up01:49
Kevin147dibs: here01:49
ohsixstravant: ok, can you post the output of fuser -v /dev/snd/* to a pastebin01:49
Guest68551it tells me to run nvidia-xconfig01:49
Guest68551but i'm kind of new to ubuntu and don't know where to run it from,01:50
p_resGuest68551: so run it.01:50
Kevin147Guest68551: Run it in the terminal01:50
KNUBBIGGuest68551: run it from terminal with sudo in front01:50
p_resfrom a terminal01:50
dibsKevin147: can you help me get upgraded to 11.04.  http://pastie.org/184917201:50
Guest68551tried but let me try again01:50
stravantohsix: http://pastebin.com/rXdqJxVT01:50
Blake_I can ask for support in here correct?01:50
Rockjohsix: oh, never read up on the thing, I thought it was bad implementation on irc clients that you could abuse when overflowing it and cause it's connection to reset or something when you sent that dcc thingie.01:50
KNUBBIGBlake_: yes01:50
ohsixstravant: ok do the same for pacmd ls01:51
stravantThat's when muted by the way, I can't get a copy of it when unmuted because it only plays for a fraction of a second01:51
dibsKNUBBIG:  Can you help me get upgraded??01:51
Hugelgupfdoes anybody know what software ubuntu-edu-tertiary includes?01:51
bazhangdibs, looks like the servers are not responding01:51
kjxl9is there a channel for musicians?01:51
Guest68551when i enter sudo nvidia-xconfig , prompts me for password which i enter then it comes back xconfig command not found01:51
ohsixstravant: thats fine, fuser was just to see who was using controlC001:51
bazhangdibs, not surprising since its day two of release01:51
dibsbazhang: No tthe issue I am having. Been trying all day01:52
bazhang!alis | kjxl901:52
ubottukjxl9: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*01:52
stravantWhat's the exact command with pacmd?01:52
kad_hey!! i need help how i can add to: /etc/fstab so uder allow to mount/umount!! i try option: exec,rw,user,auto but didn't work01:52
stravantI don't seem to be getting and output that would be useful01:52
stravantJust "welcome to pulseaudio"01:52
low_cpugood night every one01:53
Blake_Alright well yesterday I updated from 10.10 to 11.4 and it didn't boot so I went to grub and choose my previous kernel,but couldn't change my boot order. Then I went into Ubuntu 10.10 Live CD no internet access.01:53
drtghi, im using totem at the moment and when i try to play a video, it plays but with a message please install codec. Im using feisty atm. any help?01:53
KNUBBIGdibs: a shot in the dark would be to try apt-get install -f before trying to upgrade but no idea really01:53
Blake_Added a partition installed it and no internet connection.01:53
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dibsKNUBBIG: thanks man, the most helpful response so far01:53
bazhangdrtg, feisty is not supported any longer. please upgrade to a supported version01:53
Blake_I ran a command and it sees my card, but I can't get it to work.01:53
bazhangceed^`away, disable that please01:53
drtgbazhang: any other alternative if i still use fesity?01:54
drtg*feisty01:54
KNUBBIGauto-away after 1 minute, wow fast ;)01:54
bazhangdrtg, its not supported here so no01:54
deluHi, does anyone know how to make windows avoid docks when maximized/opened? I had it set up this way in Maverick, but upon reinstalling Ubuntu to Natty they appear under the dock instead. I am using Compiz and AWN.01:54
djr013drtg: What particular reason is preventing you from upgrading?01:54
alteariusHow do I view my system's kernel log?01:55
drtgdjr013: last of hard disk space :(01:55
piroli just updated to ubuntu 11.04 und tried out the catalyst 11.4 driver because i read that its now able to switch between 2 graphic chips. i have a radeon 5650 and a integrated intel. everything worked fine. but then i switched to the integrated chip with the catalyst control center just for testing. after a reboot the dedicated chip was disabled that was what i wanted but now i'm not able to start the control center again to switch back on the d01:55
piroledicated card. doas anyone has an idea that can fix this?01:55
djr013oh heh01:55
djr013drtg: Get a bigger hard disk, you'll be glad you did. ;)01:55
KNUBBIGI'm off, good night everyone01:55
drtgdjr013: i tried install the Gstreamer plugin but doesnt help too01:55
Blake_Did anyone read what I said?01:56
drtghttp://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg6t2.htm01:56
superlou_Is Simple Backup deprecated from Natty?  This could be really unfortunate :(01:56
Guest68551adios all01:56
djr013altearius: System, Administration, System Log Viewer01:56
bazhang!info sbackup01:56
ubottusbackup (source: sbackup): Simple Backup Suite for desktop use (core functionality). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.11.4-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 318 kB, installed size 1800 kB01:56
bazhangsuperlou_, still there ^01:56
alteariusdjr013: Err, how do I view my system kernel log if all I have is SSH access and no X?01:57
superlou_bazhang, thanks.  I was searching for the wrong name.  Saved me my data01:57
praveeni want to upgrade to 11.04 but my update manager is not showing option of 11.04...how to upgrade to 10.10 to 11.04??01:57
djr013drtg: Sorry I can't really help, haven't used that version in years, and it's unsupported anyway. :( It's worth it to upgrade, even if just to 10.04.01:57
Blake_Is there any Ubuntu Techs here? or anyone that can help me.01:58
djr013praveen: update-manager -d01:58
bazhangdjr013, that wont work01:58
praveendrdj013:i have tried this...not working01:58
djr013praveen: The servers are under heavy load right now though, so be warned.01:58
djr013bazhang: Wrong command?01:58
bazhangdjr013, its no longer development01:59
djr013oh :O what is it now then?01:59
ohsixstravant: "pacmd ls"01:59
bazhang!upgrade | praveen01:59
ubottupraveen: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade01:59
cardamonWhelp, switching to 10.10 (11.04 lol) broke things.  I've got an invisible menu bar. I couldn't even get a terminal up, I had to come to you in a vterm. I suspect compositing.02:00
ohsixsuperlou_: theres deja-dup if you're looking for an alternative ;]02:00
Blake_Can someone help me?02:00
aj00200cardamon: I can help you get a terminal up if you don't have a menu bar, but otherwise, I won't be much help02:01
superlou_ohsix, need to first recover all my backups from 9.04 :)  Have you found deja-dup to be superior?  Simplebackup was so simple that I actually started making backups regularly02:01
aj00200Blake_: it helps if you state your question02:01
stravantohsix: http://pastebin.com/udmgUD2V02:01
stravantSorry for the delay, needed to pipe it to a file since it didn't fit in the console02:01
ohsixsuperlou_: well it's simple, and it will backup when a volume is plugged in if it missed a regular backup; and i can mess with the backupsets with dpulicity, it served all my needs02:01
praveenubottu: that is quite helpful..thanks!!!02:03
Blake_Aj00200: I did. I shall restate again. I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.4 and it wouldn't boot. Now Ubuntu isn't finding my Ethernet connection.02:03
superlou_ohsix, sounds sweet.  I'll check it out02:03
ActionParsnipBlake_: what happens when you try and boot the natty kernel?02:03
Rockjoh, what is good backup softwares to run on your private server? one that works for both os x, windows and linux hopefully? :)02:03
ActionParsnip!backup02:04
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning02:04
Blake_ActionParsnip: It sticks on the splash02:04
ohsixstravant: i don't see anything there that is muting anything by itself, finding out what's doing it is going to get ugly, you need to kill pulseaudio and run it in the foreground with logging, so you can see what client is muting it02:04
RockjIve tried backuppc, its neat for servers but a bit bleh for clients ...02:04
Blake_ActionParsnip: But its the -pae the one without it works.02:04
ActionParsnipBlake_: press ESC when plymouth shows, you will see the boot messages,what does it say?02:04
cardamonaj00200: alt-f2 isn't responding.02:04
Rockj!sbackup02:04
ubottusbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe02:04
stravantOkay, does it need a command line option for verbosity or something?02:04
Rockj!cloning02:05
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate02:05
unc0nn3ct3doh my god this new GUI setup for 11.04 is hurting my brain.. how do I turn this mac-esque carebare deisgn off and go back to what it was in 10.04?02:05
Blake_ActionParsnip: I rather get ethernet working then 11.4 to boot02:05
ohsixunc0nn3ct3d: you could have just asked how to do it02:05
ActionParsnipunc0nn3ct3d: mac has the panel at the bottom02:05
raymondjtothwhy did 11.04 build not turn on the 3945 abg wireless card everf thing but that dose work it worked in 10 build02:05
raymondjtothdine02:05
raymondjtothfine02:05
raymondjtothwhats goin on thanks?02:05
jrennerHey guys I'm having an issue suspending. when I tell the comp to suspend it's hibernating instead. I need to only suspend because I run sshd on it and I need it to be accessible02:05
ActionParsnipunc0nn3ct3d: log off, select your name, then change the desktop you log in to at the bottom02:05
unc0nn3ct3dActionParsnip: yea, I have a panel too, that part I like.. the rest, my god.02:05
Rockjunc0nn3ct3d: at login, you can still select gnome2 (ubuntu classic) as your window manager.02:05
bazhangraymondjtoth, whats the issue mine works fine02:05
alteariusHow do I view my system kernel log from an SSH shell and/or how can I start Unity from a SSH shell with X-Forwarding?02:06
unc0nn3ct3dThank goodness02:06
ActionParsnipBlake_: ok then run:  sudolshw -C network   use the product line to find guides02:06
raymondjtothbazhang: why did 11.04 build not turn on the 3945 abg wireless card everf thing but that dose work it worked in 10 build [20:05] <raymondjtoth> dine [20:05] <raymondjtoth> fine02:06
ohsixraymondjtoth: there were changes outside of ubuntu with the 3945 driver that affected ubuntu02:06
raymondjtothi got a dell e1505 laptop02:06
Blake_ActionParsnip: Well I could, but it worked before and why not now?02:06
ActionParsnipaltearius: i'd just run the apps yu want rather than thefull desktop02:06
unc0nn3ct3dthanks for the heads up.. the pressure is slowly releasing from my head at having to try to manage through that gui.02:06
raymondjtothohsix how i fix it thanks02:06
toffHai02:06
jrenneranyone have an idea why my system is hibernating when it should be suspending?02:06
ohsixjrenner: ssh will not be accessible if you suspend or hibernate02:06
bazhangraymondjtoth, yes, try the hardware switch for the wifi if you have one02:06
jrenneroh really?02:07
jrennerdoesn't WOL solve that?02:07
ohsixjrenner: for all intents and purposes the computer is off02:07
raymondjtothbazhang:  ddi you see wgar ohsix posted02:07
aj00200cardamon: ok. Have you tried safemode or whatever it's called in Linux. I think it is called recovery mode or failsafe or something like that02:07
raymondjtothohsix: any fix yet for it02:07
alteariusActionParsnip: I don't know the command to run the system log viewer. =/02:07
ohsixjrenner: WOL is something else and it can wake computers up from hibernate or suspend, if your bios supports it02:07
ActionParsnipBlake_: well you changed your system in a huge way, so it will be affected, its a regression bug02:07
jnovekHey guys -- my wife just upgraded her machine to 11.04 and Unity flakes out on her.  Is there a config I can hack up to get it to boot classic?  She's configured to auto-login so I can't just switch env. on login for her.02:07
ActionParsnipaltearius: dmesg | less02:07
prodigelhi all. just updated to 11.04. Big question: how do I revert to the classical window manager? I'm not used to the shiny new compiz interface, and I really want back the old one. thanks02:07
bazhangraymondjtoth, yes, I have that chipset and it works flawlessly with 11.0402:07
bazhangprodigel, at the login window choose classic02:08
ohsixraymondjtoth: you might listen to bazhang, i just know there were some changes and some people had problems02:08
raymondjtothbazhang: weird might be some not afected and some is02:08
jrennerohsix: I've had this working before so I'm trying to see if there's anything I need to do. do I need to install anything on ubuntu for it to wake on lan or is it purely a bios thing?02:08
Blake_ActionParsnip: Well I should add it's on my Motherboard and I have the disk and for Linux it tells me to update the Kernel.02:08
raymondjtothohsix:  im one that hhaving the problem02:08
raymondjtothohsix: any work around02:08
ActionParsnipaltearius: or run:   gnome-system-log &02:08
tofffreeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?02:08
bazhangraymondjtoth, does ifconfig show it02:08
ohsixraymondjtoth: if there was, i don't know it02:08
alteariusActionParsnip: Thanks!02:08
raymondjtothbazhang: it shows ever were even in ifconfig02:09
toffWhat is the cause of  this problem?02:09
aj00200Rockj: does "incremental backup" mean that it will store the changes not the whole file?02:09
ActionParsnipaltearius: all i did was grep the .desktop file and it shows the command it runs02:09
ohsixjrenner: well i think the OS can have a say in wether WOL will bring the machine out of suspend, but i think it's still down to the bios02:09
RoastedI'm browsing my samba share on a laptop. All of the thumbnails are coming up black with the white text JPG. Is there any way I can SEE the thumbnails?02:09
raymondjtothbazhang: any idea02:09
jrennerohsix: thanks I'll look into it02:09
ohsixaj00200: it means that each backup won't be a full copy, generally it means it will only store changes to a file, yes02:09
ActionParsnipBlake_: you may find the new kernel is ok once you get a desktop02:09
cardamonJust ran the Natty Narwhal upgrade widget.  I've got an invisible menubar up top.  It's semi responsive, but I can't access any applications.  I can't even get a term up and alt-f2 isn't giving me a run menu.  I could use some help fixing it.  I suspect compositing might be an issue.  I usually disable it because this netbook is quite slow and the intel 945GMA doesn't like it.02:10
tofffreeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?02:10
bazhangraymondjtoth, well I had the hw switch on mine, and after clicking it on/off/on I found it availabe in the nm dropdown (ie my access point)02:10
aj00200ohsix: ok, thanks02:10
* hiexpo WOW02:10
LantechHello02:10
ActionParsniphiexpo: ?02:10
raymondjtothbazhang: i did the switch dont turn it on02:10
stravantohsix: http://pastebin.com/mGX7Z2PD That's the output that comes up when I unmute it and it remutes02:10
tofffreeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?02:10
bazhangtoff, stop repeating every five seconds02:10
kpomanhelp !02:10
ohsixstravant: yea but it doesn't say what client sent the mute, add -vvv so it's noisier02:11
aj00200cardamon: if you log out and switch to "failsafe gnome" at the bottom (you are still on 10.04/10.10 right?), does it work?02:11
Blake_ActionParsnip: I not quite sure if I follow. I created a partition installed 10.10 booted into that 10.10 partition. And it doesn't work when I used the exact same disk to install it before.02:11
robin0800kpoman, is that a question?02:11
raymondjtothbazhang: hope can still have idea02:11
LantechI've migrated a win7 install with Wubi to an SSD.  Then, I moved the wubi install to a "real" install on a partition.  Now, I'm upgrading to 11.04.02:11
toffbazhang : really urgent bcuz my project it is ?02:11
bazhangraymondjtoth, already on final?02:11
raymondjtothit like if there no driver in windows or a maping for it in dell e150502:11
LantechDo I need to do any tweaks RE the SSD?02:11
kpomanrobin0800: I posted my Xorg log, failure loading DRI for radeon on 11.0402:11
hiexpoActionParsnip, nah i am alright brotha   thanks though probally help for a minute deciding if i wanna jump in on this   >   is very busy02:11
raymondjtothbazhang: it gave me it as update02:11
Lantechin terms of trim support or anything?02:11
bazhangtoff, that will get zero help. try every 15 minutes02:11
cardamonaj00200: No. I moved to Narwhal.02:11
ActionParsnipBlake_: I though you said you upgraded to natty? SO why is the install disk part of the equation02:12
aj00200cardamon: ok. Are you using Unity or Gnome?02:12
fr00gCan anybody tell me why there is no longer a battery indicator in Unity2d?02:12
LantechNo?  Yes?  Maybe?  Fuck off Lantech?02:12
cardamonaj00200: I don't know what.  Whatever's default.02:12
IdleOne!language | Lantech02:12
ubottuLantech: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.02:12
toffbazhang : let me try02:12
bazhangLantech, no cursing02:12
Lantechsigh02:12
ActionParsnipfr00g: in power settings you can enable/disable it02:12
Blake_ActionParsnip: I did, but I didn't like it so I created a partition and put 10.10 back on there. Because I have 200GB of movies and music and stuff that I don't want to re-do.02:12
raymondjtothbazhang: amy idea02:12
cardamonI heard it was switching to Unity, but at no point have I been given an option to make a switch.02:12
hiexpo!lanuuage > Lantech02:13
fr00gAh, thank you!02:13
bazhangraymondjtoth, patience please02:13
Lantechyeah, thanks.  tell me again.02:13
LantechTIL this channel sucks02:13
stravantohsix: That looks more useful: http://pastebin.com/ABW4t2kE02:13
ohsixLantech: the kernel and filesystems in it would handle discard and stuff; newer does more, but the long short of it is you'd be looking at kernel changes between versions02:13
raymondjtothbazhang: sorry im austic person02:13
aj00200cardamon: ok. Unity is default. You might want to try logging out and when you are logging in, select Gnome or failsafe or fallback or something like that at the bottom of the screen after you click your user name02:13
cardamonI was running Lucid, the thing told me an upgrade was available, I had time so I ran it.02:13
raymondjtothsorry that not waiting some times it comes out02:13
stravantohsix: That's the whole mute-remute cycle02:13
fr00gI have another question, when I use Faenza icons, the Unity2d panel still shows the default Ubuntu icons, why?02:13
bazhangraymondjtoth, I'm checking the forums. please patience02:13
ubuntumannyAnyone know how to add global menu support for celtx?02:13
raymondjtothbazhang: o ok want sure02:13
sarasota_macanyone try updating to Natty Narwhal02:14
SinnerNyxon ubuntu server trying to run a command on server bootup. not on login. Where would I put the command?02:14
ohsixstravant: do you have multiple ovlume controls open? i saw 3 in pacmd ls02:14
aj00200sarasota_mac: yes, I updated02:14
BKTech86hi, I can't boot my disk - i used to dual boot win7/ubuntu and now i've restored grub and checked using a script that everything is correct in the MBR, etc. but the disk won't boot -- i can mount it from a live cd boot and all that - read/write, but it won't boot02:14
ohsixSinnerNyx: if it doesn't depend on anything, rc.local02:14
sarasota_maci did and my video now has to run in low graphic mode02:14
ohsixSinnerNyx: if it does you probably want a sysvinit/upstart script to start it after the resources you need are available02:14
magickahey02:15
stravantI don't know, I would assume I only have one, I don't even have the indicator applets running, I tried removing them to see if they were the problem02:15
kpomanrobin0800: got any idea ? http://pastebin.com/nKRxwuuU02:15
fr00gWhen I use Faenza icons, the Unity2d panel still shows the default Ubuntu mono icons, why?02:15
magickaAnyone know about installing Broadcom b43 drivers on ubuntu 11.0402:15
BKTech86I also can't boot from "boot from first disk option" of the live cd, -- does anybody know what could be preventing this disk from booting?02:15
aj00200sarasota_mac: do you mean the window effects?02:15
gtlaruemy sound has suddenly became choppy, all of it sounding like a person speaking through a fan, trying to find a way to bring it back to normal without rebooting02:15
raymondjtoththanks for helping bazhang02:15
sarasota_macso far i'm not to impress with ubuntu, first update and it blows up!!02:15
robin0800fr00g, you have to log out or even reboot first02:15
ohsixmagicka: the drivers are there and don't need to be installed, they do need firmware though02:15
ActionParsnip!broadcom | magicka02:15
ubottumagicka: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx02:15
namzezamwhy no one replay to this bug on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic ?02:15
magickauhhhhhhhhhhhh02:15
magickak02:15
Marsha||[a]hello02:15
fr00gAre you sure? When I log out/in all the appicons chanegd, just not the panel icons?02:15
aj00200sarasota_mac: are you talking about the window effects?02:16
Marsha||[a]i just upgraded to ubuntu 11.0402:16
Marsha||[a]then upgraded to gnome 302:16
cardamonaj00200: Is it listed as something else? My options are Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (No Effects)...02:16
sarasota_macand it's garbage huh02:16
SinnerNyxohsix: Thx, I'm trying it out now02:16
Marsha||[a]now i got the oh no! something has gone wrong error02:16
exadHello everone02:16
truepurpleHi, anyone know anything specific about ATI drivers?02:16
Marsha||[a]can't open my gnome anymore :(02:16
Marsha||[a]anyideas ?02:16
aj00200cardamon: yes, try Ubuntu Classic (No Effects). This should be Gnome02:16
exadI am thinking about putting ubuntu 11.04 on my alienware m11x r202:16
sarasota_macwhen i boot up i see my desktop with flashing icons, mail and untitled folder02:16
exadbut I have a question02:16
exadMy laptop has optimus graphics switching technology02:17
sarasota_macthen i reboot selecting run in fail safe,02:17
raymondjtothbazhang: stil here02:17
raymondjtothstill here02:17
namzezamwhy no  replay  on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic  BUG?02:17
tjiggi_fo!gnome3 | Marsha||[a]02:17
ubottuMarsha||[a]: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.02:17
cardamonaj00200: That worked.02:17
stravantohsix: What would I be looking for in terms of multiple volume controls?02:17
exadis there any way I can disable one of the cards or something since linux doesn't support optimus yet?02:17
bazhangraymondjtoth, yes, still looking02:17
Blake_ActionParsnip: You didn't forget about me did you? I know it's busy, but just making sure.02:17
aj00200sarasota_mac: please keep your question/explanation on one line so it doesn't get mixed in with other questions02:17
vividexad, you cant use optimus02:17
stravantohsix: (In terms of process names?)02:18
tjiggi_foMarsha||[a], that's what happened02:18
raymondjtothbazhang: thanks for helping me02:18
lmd1984I never used Ubuntu, I always use Windows. So, this is my first time in this operative system. I just have one question, Can I install normally the sims 3 on this release of Ubuntu?02:18
lmd1984The truth is that I have no idea if the sims 3 it can be install on Linux.02:18
lmd1984I'd really appreciate an answer. Thanks.02:18
tofffreeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?02:18
escottexad, it would be in your bios02:18
Marsha||[a]:S02:18
Marsha||[a]so what can i do now ?02:18
exadCan I disable any of the video cards though?02:18
exadits not in my bios02:18
vividexad, if you have an ATI card there are options for it, but you wont need it really02:18
exadit's managed by software02:18
ActionParsnipBlake_: do you dual boot?02:18
tjiggi_foMarsha||[a], reinstall 11.0402:18
bazhanglmd1984, check the appdb and ask in #winehq02:18
ardchoilleWhat is Ubuntu's official twitter page?02:18
exadits an nvidia card02:18
Marsha||[a]i upgraded02:18
vividexad, i have the m15x and i get about 4 hours on battery which should be more than enough02:18
aj00200cardamon: great! I had a similar problem on an older computer with the Unity beta. I haven't updated to Natty there yet so it may be your graphics card not supporting 3d acceleration.02:18
Blake_ActionParsnip: Before No. Now yes.02:18
bazhang!appdb | lmd198402:18
ubottulmd1984: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help02:18
Marsha||[a]cant reinstall all data here :(02:18
robin0800kpoman, think there is something about this in the release notes02:19
sarasota_macsorry about that02:19
Marsha||[a]i am on KDE now02:19
cardamonHow to configure Unity? If I can get compositing off it may work.02:19
namzezamwhy no  replay  on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic  BUG?02:19
escottexad, i thought optimus did something weird running the nvidia controls through the intel card. but check the forums and see02:19
vividexad, so nvidia = no, you just use the nvidia card and set up power saving when youre on battery, should work fine02:19
Marsha||[a]but it sucks i am more gnome person lol02:19
ActionParsnipBlake_: boot to windows, enable the nic then boot ubuntu, should be ok02:19
fr00gI have an issue, when I use the live CD, unity 3d works, on the hard drive after installation, I'm forced to use 2d02:19
fr00gWhy?02:19
exadvivid: I just dont want my 335gt running 247 and heating up my system02:19
aj00200cardamon: you may have to isntall Unity 2D to get it to work if your graphics card does not support 3D hardware acceleration02:19
Marsha||[a]tjiggi_fo, i can't just remove & reinstall old gnome 2.* ?02:19
Blake_ActionParsnip: I lied I don't dual boot ubuntu and Windows it just ubuntu 10.10 and Ubuntu 11.402:20
uRock!apparmor02:20
ubottuFor information about the AppArmor security framework employed in Ubuntu (since Gutsy Gibbon), see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppArmor02:20
vividexad, when you power up and its on battery, it will automatically go low power, when mine is on battery it does no heating02:20
namzezamyes, it some times i try upgrade and fail on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic  , i do report it here and no one even look at it, why?02:20
vividexad, short story, youll have little trouble with it and you dont need to worry about optimus02:20
exadbut it will use the 335gt by default? will it never use the Intel HD graphics?02:20
robin0800namzezam, report it as a bug then02:21
vividexad, it will use your nvidia card02:21
namzezamwhere and how02:21
exadok I guess Ill give it a shot then02:21
sarasota_macany idea how to add my nvidia video card02:21
stravantohsix: "gvfs-afc-volume-monitor", "gvf-gdu-volume-monitor", "gnome-volume-control" were open02:21
exadvivid have you tried gaming with wine at all?02:21
jnovekI have an 11.04 upgrades that auto-logins and has a hosed Unity -- is there a config file I can edit to set it to Gnome2/Classic?02:21
vividexad, i havent tried natty or maverick on my laptop yet so i dunno how theyll act, currently using lucid02:21
sarasota_macdon't load natty02:22
lmd1984thanks, has been very helpful.02:22
exadI see02:22
stravantohsix: Or at least that's what I found with ps -A grep "vol" / "sound"02:22
uRockdoes anyone know where all of the apparmor profiles for chromium are in ubuntu 10.10?02:22
exadWell I will give it a shot then02:22
vividexad, yes i get about 60 fps in wow and about the same in tf2 with the gt 240m02:22
exadyou've been most informative thank you02:22
MK``Are the earlier releases of Lucid. 10.04 and 10.04.1, available for download anymore or do they only host 10.04.2?02:22
namzezamhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/598867/02:22
ohsixstravant: first 2 have to do with storage volumes, not volumes volumes, i was talking about connected clients in the output of pacmd ls02:22
escottjnovek, /etc/gdm/custom.conf02:22
emacsenHow come the scrollbar is different in pidgin than in gnome-terminal or firefox?02:22
gruyenwhat is the package name of the installer (for reporting bugs w/ ubuntu-bug)?02:23
sarasota_macwhere do i run nvidia-xconfig from02:23
stravantohsix: I have like, 20 tabs open so I'm sure there's several things using sound references02:23
exadbbl02:23
tjiggi_foMarsha||[a], there's no way back. Read the ubottu factoid again. Just use a live CD to rescue your data and reinstall02:23
Blake_ActionParsnip: ...02:23
stravantohsix: Would it help to only have one open?02:23
BKTech86can anyone help me get my harddrive to boot again please? windows7 repair screwed it up02:23
jnovekThanks, good luck guys.  Lots of (mostly god) surprises in Natty.02:23
scorch_how do I make the desktop icons smaller on unity?  WAY TOO BIG, lol02:23
raymondjtothbazhang: thansk agen for helping02:23
Marsha||[a]cant uninstall gnome & reinstal old one ?02:23
sarasota_macany idea why video works in fail safe mode but not in regular02:24
tjiggi_foMarsha||[a], you can try but I cannot help you02:24
escottBKTech86, have you reinstalled grub?02:24
BKTech86escott: yes02:24
jeremymcsnatty is jank02:24
Marsha||[a]i think i will have to02:24
sarasota_macyes it is02:24
jeremymcsugly02:24
scorch_your jank02:24
escottBKTech86, do you know what win 7 did?02:24
Marsha||[a]thanks tjiggi_fo u helped already02:24
stravantscorch_: Alt + F2, about:config, then in experimental there's a size setting02:24
uRock!opinions02:25
BKTech86escott: i have no clue but the disk is not bootable02:25
BKTech86escott: mountable, readable, writable, but not bootable02:25
hiexpoBlake_,  no one is gonna wanna help you here if you keep playing  whatever game you are playing   >   if you want help than ask your serious ? an so be02:25
aj00200sarasota_mac: I think it might not work in the regular mode because your graphics card does not support 3D hardware acceleration, but I am not sure.02:25
escottBKTech86, sounds like you don't have a bootloader in the mbr02:25
BKTech86escott: i ran some boot_info_script.sh02:25
escottBKTech86, you would need to boot the livecd, chroot into the ubuntu system, then run grub-install /dev/sda02:25
plummerbQuestion for the intellihancia02:25
BKTech86escott: it said the mbr is in /dev/sda and points to my linux partition where grub is successfully installed blah blah02:26
scorch_stravant its not coming up, just about config02:26
BKTech86escott: i'm pretty sure grub is there in the boot folder02:26
BKTech86escott: but if that's not enough, can you guide me through this chroot thing?02:26
stravantscorch_: Does Alt+F2 bring up the "run command thing"?02:27
escottBKTech86, yeah best not to trust the script02:27
scorch_yes02:27
BKTech86escott: btw, grub-install said Installation successful.  No errors reported.02:27
scorch_strvant yes02:27
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escottBKTech86, when you get to the live cd open a terminal02:27
BKTech86escott: ok i'm almost there02:27
stravantscorch_: about about:config brings up CompizConfig?02:27
Blake_hiexpo: I am being serious. I don't have Windows on that computer.02:27
uRocknevermind, I found it02:28
scorch_stravant no02:28
BKTech86escott: ther02:28
plummerbCan anyone tell me if there are any issues with upgrading to 11.04?  Specifically concerning how your desktop is displayer?02:28
plummerbDisplayed...02:28
cardamonplummerb: It's not.02:29
bazhangplummerb, what version are you on now02:29
escottBKTech86, then do the following: sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu (# should be your ubuntu root partition); sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu/boot (if you have a boot partition); sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev; sudo chroot /mnt/ubuntu; sudo grub-install /dev/sda102:29
cardamonA lot of us seem to be experiencing bugs.02:29
aj00200plummerb: the main issue is that some people end up using Ubuntu Classic (Gnome) rather than the new display (Unity)02:29
plummerbI upgraded to 11.0402:29
stravantscorch_: try sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager02:29
scorch_k02:30
BKTech86escott: by "if you have a boot partition" you mean if i have a separate partition solely for the "boot" folder, right?02:30
stravantscorch_: Then try about:config again02:30
escottBKTech86, yes02:30
BKTech86escott: my boot folder is in /dev/sda5/boot -- so it's not a separate partition02:30
plummerbYes, I noticed the major change...02:30
escottBKTech86, then skip that command02:30
aj00200plummerb: no. I'm saying that this new interface doesn't work for some people and they have to revert to the older one02:31
BKTech86escott: sda1 is my windows partition02:31
BKTech86escott: should i not do sudo grub-install /dev/sda5?02:31
oneliner1176 MB for the 11.04 update?02:31
escottBKTech86, sorry sudo grub-install /dev/sda (no number)02:31
BKTech86escott: ok02:31
plummerbWell, I see that gnome is running so I guess gnome is still the window manager on my system.02:31
cardamonAnyone know way to configure unity when running Ubuntu Classic?02:31
ohsixoneliner: to update your installed packages02:31
oneliner1740sh of them02:32
onelinersweet!02:32
BKTech86escott: /proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory a bunch of times02:32
BKTech86escott: then "Is device mapper driver missing form kernel?02:32
onelineri wonder what will happen with non traditional software like apache servers in opt n all that02:32
plummerbDo I have to switch to Unity?02:33
BKTech86escott: Failed to set up list of device-mapper major numbers, then more of the 1st error a bunch of times02:33
scorch_stravant ok, I am talking about icons I put on the desktop02:33
BKTech86escott: then "Installation finished. No error erported." <-- lol02:33
escottBKTech86, :) hmmm you could try grub-install --recheck /dev/sda maybe that will silence the warning02:33
Blue1BKTech86: no errors airported - means it didn't fly the coop02:33
ohsixplummerb: you don't have to do anything02:33
stravantscorch_: Sorry, figured your were taking about the ones in the menu since I had the same problem02:33
robin0800cardamon, what do you mean?02:34
escottBKTech86, we didn't bind mount the /proc02:34
BKTech86escott: should we have?02:34
[thor]plummerb: at login, you can choose "Ubuntu Classic"02:34
BKTech86escott: btw i have no idea what that means02:34
escottBKTech86, in another terminal execute sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc02:34
KageI am having a issue, after the boot splash screen, I get a blank screen.  I can not move to a vertiral console (ctrl + alt + fX).  I have tested ubuntu and kubuntu, with both 64 and 32 bit archs.  This happens both with the live cd and  after install from alternate disks.02:34
escottBKTech86, that should silence the warnings02:34
Blue1escott: ru trying to recover the mbr?02:34
[thor]plummerb: ultimately, you can choose whichever desktop environment you wish.02:34
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BKTech86escott: should re-do the grub-install command now?02:34
cardamonrobin0800: I mean that in Unity, I've got invisible menus and can't find anything to run or configure anything.  I'd like to fix it.  I'm in classic pre-Unity gnome at the moment.02:35
KageI can get knoppix to boot, anyone wanna tell me where I should start looking for the issue?02:35
escottBlue1, yes restoring the mbr02:35
plummerbthor: Alright.  Classic works better with gnome?02:35
escottBKTech86, yes try after that bind mount02:35
BKTech86escott: right, no errors02:35
escottBlue1, seems to be a lot of broken grubs after this upgrade02:35
Blue1escott: okay I have the procedure written down if you'd like:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/02:35
BKTech86escott: i didn't upgrade!02:36
escottBKTech86, cross your fingers and reboot?02:36
scorch_does anyone know how to make desktop icons smaller in unity?02:36
[thor]plummerb: i'm not sure; I have only tried the beta of Natty, and i could not get Unity to work correctly.02:36
uhuhuhhello. How to configure 11.04's application panel?02:36
BKTech86escott: ok will do02:36
robin0800cardamon, sounds like compiz/unity crashed02:36
cardamonrobin0800: Probably.  I don't use compositing anyway.  My intel 945GMA doesn't like it.02:36
plummerbthor: Alrighty...  I'll give it a shot.  Thank you.02:36
plummerbThanks all02:36
cardamonSo I want to turn it off and I need to find where it is.02:37
robin0800cardamon, then you can't run unity 3d02:37
sushemsuare there proprietary drivers for on board for my toshiba laptop on my ubuntu 10.1002:37
BKTech86escott: no dice02:37
escottBlue1, i feel like this is one of those things people will just want to be walked through02:37
Blue1escott: it's all there though --02:37
sushemsuumm on board video02:37
NappzWhat command line tool can I use for expanding my main boot partition?02:37
escottBKTech86, but you can mount /dev/sda5 fine02:37
BKTech86escott: correcvt02:37
Blue1Nappz: gparted?02:38
escottBlue1, I know just a comment on the psychology of the situation... not booting freaks people out02:38
stravantohsix: So is there anything you can do with this: http://pastebin.com/TWwN9n8t paulsdio -vvv output for the muting?02:38
cardamonrobin0800: So what?02:38
Blue1escott: I am convinced that I made the right decision in staying with 10.1002:38
escottBKTech86, have you run an fsck on it?02:38
ohsixstravant: i don't know why g-v-c would be muting it by itself; something else is doing it02:38
Nappzk thanks02:38
robin0800carandraug, classic or unity 2d02:38
BKTech86escott: is that an acryonym for all of the cursewords going through my mind atm?02:38
stravantohsix: So it is the volume control muting it?02:39
robin0800cardamon, , classic or unity 2d02:39
Blue1BKTech86: fsck is file stucture check02:39
BKTech86escott: trying now...02:39
escottits a well chosen command name :) if anyone says your filesystem is fsck'ed you know what they mean02:39
BKTech86escott: Blue1: i tried using the check disk utility from live cd02:39
ohsixstravant: that's what it says, what it doesn't say is why; theres no functionality to automatically mute your sound every 5 seconds in it ;]02:39
escottBKTech86, although yours sounds fine which is what is so confusing02:39
BKTech86escott: said there were no errors02:39
BKTech86escott: is that equivalent to fsck?02:40
stravantohsix: Is there any way I can unmute it via the command line without havingt he volume control running?02:40
IanLiuAfter last update from Natty, I can't login with GDM anymore. The password seems to be accepted, the screen gets black, and the GDM screen appears again. Any hints?02:40
BKTech86escott: could it be something in the bios?02:40
plummerbWell, I logged in using Ubuntu Classic but my desktop icons are still all jacked up...  lol02:40
BKTech86escott: i believe i put everything back to normal but .. ?02:40
escottBKTech86, probably just a gui for it. how is your system partitioned02:40
BKTech86escott: i have win7 on sda102:41
Desqwewehyhghi02:41
BKTech86escott: and ubuntu on sda502:41
escottBKTech86, bios could mess things up but the bios shouldn't mess with the bootloader loading02:41
BKTech86escott: theres like a swap partition02:41
escottBKTech86, and swap as /dev/sda4 or /dev/sda6 or so02:41
plummerbI have to say, I like Ubuntu Classic much better than the new one...02:41
BKTech86escott: sda2 is like a folder that holds sda5 and sda ...02:41
BKTech86escott: some others02:42
Desqwewehyhgi need to run a couple of lines on terminal, at the start of Ubuntu ? How do i do that?02:42
escottBKTech86, yeah sounds normal02:42
BKTech86escott: sda2 is extended sda5 is ext402:42
robin0800plummerb, I like unity 2d02:42
Dr_WillisDesqwewehyhg:  at boot time.. (no X needed>?) or when a usewr logs in?02:42
kanuhaIs there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?02:42
plummerbRobin: I don't appear to have that option at login...  :(02:42
escottBKTech86, so you don't get anything from grub. its like it never starts02:42
BKTech86escott: yeah exactly, the machine doesn't recognize my hard disk as bootable02:43
DesqwewehyhgDr_Willis: it is for fixing the resolution02:43
plummerbJust getting my desktop back to normal would be all I need....02:43
Desqwewehyhgxrandr --addmode ... and other02:43
Saammok can someone tell me if this is happening to anyone else? Software Center Shows 0 Rating for Chromium...But when click on more info it shows 121 raqting...02:43
[thor]kanuha: your desktop's theme settings will determine the color/shape/etc of the login screen02:43
escottBKTech86, shouldn't matter but you could toggle the bootable flag on some partitions (namely 1 and 502:43
Dr_WillisDesqwewehyhg:  for a single user. theres the Autorun directory in .config  (I think thats where its at now)02:43
Dr_Willis!autorun02:43
Dr_Willis!autostart02:44
BKTech86escott: with what02:44
ubottuTo add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot02:44
robin0800plummerb, you have to install it ubuntu put classic in instead it will be in the next one i believe02:44
escottBKTech86, fdisk /dev/sda02:44
Desqwewehyhgbut it is needed for all users02:44
escottBKTech86, i think bootable flag is "a" and then "w" to write the changes (don't touch anything else though)02:44
plummerbAh, Unity didn't come with the update?02:44
MadDecentanyone know much about getting hdmi out to work on my netbook? I have a asus eeepc 1015n02:44
Dr_WillisTheres a system wide autostart dir also i belive.02:44
BKTech86escott: i'm looking at my ext4 partition in disk utility02:45
h3ikomorning guys02:45
BKTech86escott: and i went to "Edit partition" and the bootable check box is not ticked02:45
h3ikoanyone speak german in here?02:45
escottBKTech86, the bootable flag shouldn't matter to grub, but it cant hurt02:45
BKTech86escott: not to grub, but to the bios right?02:45
raymondjtothbazhang: see any thing02:45
DesqwewehyhgDr_Willis: maybe with a script on etc/init/ ????02:45
robin0800plummerb, unity 3d did 2d didn't02:46
kanuhathur, I changed the theme and changed the colors in the themes, but the highlight color is still orange on the login screen02:46
BKTech86escott: sda1 is marked as bootable02:46
escottBKTech86, yeah but the bios starts grub, it shouldn't even touch the partitions so it really shouldn't matter02:46
h3ikocan someone please explain me what an GPG Failure is???02:46
bazhang!gpgerr | h3iko02:46
ubottuh3iko: Getting GPG errors after adding custom repositories? Find the GPG keyword for the repository (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) and run « sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com <key> »02:46
BKTech86escott: isn't grub installed on the disk?02:46
Guest40708Hi guys02:46
bazhangh3iko, signing error on the package02:47
escottBKTech86, thats what we just did, putting grub in the mbr02:47
[thor]kanuha: have you tried downloading gdm2setup?02:47
BKTech86escott: where is the mbr in the bios?02:47
alex_How do I open multiple terminals?02:47
[thor]kanuha: i'm not sure if it is in the repos, but it is on launchpad02:47
alex_Ubuntu 11.04 in Gnome 302:47
plummerbSo is Unity a Desktop Manager or a new X server?02:47
escottBKTech86, mbr is the first 512 bytes of the disk, not on the mbr02:47
escottnot in the bios02:47
h3ikoi've been told that my public key is not available...02:48
PalinBachman2012unity is a compiz plugin02:48
Barzogh    alex_  CTRL + ALT + T02:48
alex_Barzogh, cool, thanks02:48
BKTech86escott: but it seems like the problem is that the bios doesn't even try to look at grub02:48
Barzoghyw02:48
BKTech86escott: btw, this disk utility is hanging in applying those bootable flags02:48
BKTech86escott: any idea why?02:48
BKTech86escott: none of the partitions are mounted02:48
escottbios starts the mbr, mbr scans partition table, looks for the /boot partition, then starts running os. so bios is out of the picture as soon as grub starts02:49
escottBKTech86, don't know i generally don't use the gui02:49
BKTech86escott: do you know how from cli?02:49
kanuhathor, yeah dependencies not satisfiable02:50
escottBKTech86, fdisk /dev/sda "a" is the bootable flag "w" to write changes02:50
kanuhathor, it seems the ppa is broken for gdm202:50
scorch_what package do i install to get all of the dvd and music codecs?02:50
scorch_or does it alreay come with natty02:50
escottBKTech86, what is your hardware?02:51
BKTech86escott: all of it?02:51
aeon-ltd!restricted | scorch_02:51
ubottuscorch_: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats02:51
gruyeni am getting an error mounting one of my drives - "one or more block devices is holding /dev/sdc1" ...ideas?02:51
[thor]kanuha: :/ sorry friend, no idea about that.02:51
BKTech86escott: i have an intel core2 duo, sort of old intel motherboard,02:51
tasewhat was the reason Ubuntu switched from OpenOffice to LibreOffice ?02:51
escottBKTech86, just wondering if there was anything exotic sounds there isnt02:52
kanuhathor, no problem thx for trying02:52
hiexpo!libreoffice02:52
ubottuCurrent stable releases of Ubuntu use OpenOffice.org, and do not have supported packaging for LibreOffice. Ubuntu developers are working on packaging for Ubuntu Natty and backports for 10.10 and 10.04. See https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2011-January/032298.html for more information on progress and an unstable, unsupported PPA.02:52
Dr_Willistase:  due to the way Openoffice was being handled by Sun (and the company that now owns sun)02:52
h3ikobazhang - this means? could be caused by wine?02:52
Dr_WillisFactoid is out of dat4e now it seems. :)02:52
escottBKTech86, and its only the one disk right02:53
[thor]kanuha: you can always download & make the source02:53
BKTech86escott: yes 1 disk02:53
tasecool, ty Dr_Willis02:53
stravantohsix: Is it possible to use amixer to set the muted state in a similar way to the GUI sound control? I looked up how to mute stuff from the command line but everything points to using "amixer sset "Master" toggle", however it appears I have no "Master" in amixer, just: http://pastebin.com/rMKUaexL02:53
[thor]kanuha: very painless02:53
badravenHello02:53
BKTech86escott: how can i take off the bootable flag from a partition02:54
OY1Rcan anyone help me fix this boot up problem, i cannot boot Ubuntu 10.10 >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600969/02:54
escottBKTech86, its a toggle02:54
cuddlefish11.04 is not compatible with my GPU02:54
cuddlefishsure wish it had told me that before I installed it...02:54
carandraugBKTech86, you can do it with cfdisk I think02:54
steelgeekquit02:54
plummerbOk...  I guess my issue is not with Unity...  After upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04 my desktop icons are ENORMOUS and I can no longer click on them.02:54
KiboKevin147: It was a LOT of work and wait, but it worked. Natty Narwhal is running... ;) Thanks again!02:54
scarra3I'm having trouble deciding if I should stay with 11.04 or go back to windows02:54
badravenCan someone direct me to info about installing Windows along side ubuntu after unbuntu is installed?02:55
carandraugBKTech86, just do "sudo cfdisk /path-to-device" and be careful to just change the bootable flag02:55
cuddlefishwell, my computer's basically a brick now02:55
Kevin147Kibo: Sweet!! Glad its working! np :)02:55
cuddlefish:(02:55
escottBKTech86, so when you reboot it just blinks at you?02:55
BKTech86carandraug: i did sudo fdisk /dev/sda; a; 5; w;02:55
carandraugcuddlefish, that's why there's LiveCD02:55
hiexpobadraven, it needs to be windoz first02:56
carandraugBKTech86, did it work?02:56
cuddlefishcarandraug: it works on the LiveCD02:56
badravenI was hoping it wasn't going to be like that.02:56
cuddlefishcarandraug: but after about 5 minutes of runtime02:56
Dr_Willis!fixgrub | badraven02:56
ubottubadraven: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)02:56
Gatoradehelp, when trying to install wubi on my friends computer, pyrun yells at me. What can I do?02:56
BKTech86carandraug: it said unable to reload device settings or something like that -- new table will be used at reboot02:56
BKTech86just booted into ubuntu.......02:56
Dr_Willisbadraven:  install windows to whatever free partions you have ready for it. reinstall grub loader.02:56
plummerbAh HA!  I figured it out.  I'm using two monitors.  When I have both monitors on my desktop is stretched across both and no longer works correctly...02:56
cuddlefishcarandraug: the screen is covered in horizontal lines. after that, all windows don't redraw02:57
BKTech86FINALLY --02:57
badravenWhat about booting from a second hard drive that is set up as the boot drive.  Then I would choose what drive to boot from.02:57
Dr_Willisbadraven:  you can make a rescue-grub booting flash drive. to make that 2nd task a littl easier.02:57
Dr_Willisbadraven:  thats how i do it. each os has its own HD.02:57
BKTech86escott: i didn't even have a chance to see if grub showed up02:57
escottBKTech86, so its working now?02:57
Dr_Willisbadraven:  making sure windows does NOT write to the wrong MBR may be the problem. You could just Unplug the linux HD.02:57
carandraugcuddlefish, sorry about your bad experience. Can't help you with it, I only have a integrated intel graphic cards 8 years old02:57
BKTech86escott: yep, it shows up, and the windows option is there too02:57
cuddlefishcarandraug: me too :(02:57
BKTech86phew02:57
plummerbWhen I just have one monitor on the desktop displays correctly.02:57
carandraugBKTech86, so what's the problem now?02:57
badravenThanks Dr willins,  where can I get some info that covers that?02:58
BKTech86carandraug: problem . finally. solved.02:58
Dr_Willisplummerb:  there seems to be known issues on unity and 2+ monitors.02:58
carandraugBKTech86, ok. Good to know02:58
BKTech86thank you sooooo much both of you...02:58
raymondjtothbazhang: you still here02:58
AndroUserHi guy I heard you could run all the.windows apps and android apps on ubuntu so I got it. Now how do I install all my windowd and android alls02:58
Dr_Willisbadraven:  if you Unplug the linux hd.. then you just install windows normally. No special stuff needed.02:58
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plummerbDr: There does eh?02:58
escottim getting really confused by all these grub boot failures. seems if you fiddle with the partition table things start to magically work. anyone else noticed that?02:58
carandraugAndroUser, you heard wrong02:58
Dr_WillisAndroUser:  i think you have heard wrong. WINE lets you run MANY windows apps.. as for android apps.  we...02:58
Dr_WillisAndroUser:  theres proberly some ways to  do it. in an emulator or somthing.02:59
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BKTech86escott: i don't think the bios even attempted to access the mbr because the partition wasn't marked as bootable?02:59
escotthhjjff, you can get the android emulator02:59
BKTech86escott: of course i am way in over my head lol02:59
badravenOk, thank you.02:59
kaushalhi03:00
escottBKTech86, bioses can do weird things... although it shouldn't be doing that03:00
[thor]Dr_Willis/hhjjff: the android emulator is basically a VM03:00
escotthhjjff, but its a developer tool not a "I want to use this as a real app" tool03:00
kaushalis there a way to know the speed of a USB Mobile Broadband 3G GSM ?03:00
hiexpokaushal, go to speedtest.net or speakeasy03:01
jprobeHi, all, does anyone know where I can get ahold of an AMD64 Lucid torrent?  It's not on the ubuntu.com website.  =(03:01
kaushalhiexpo: i know it03:01
kaushalfrom the desktop03:02
uhuhuhHello, how can I configure my application panel? I want to delete some items from it.03:02
escottjprobe, doubt there are any seeds03:02
hiexpokaushal, speedometer03:02
hhjjffHi guys03:02
carandraugjprobe, you sure? Try a torrent search engine. Yous hould be able to find it on isohunt03:02
keithclarkI have just installed xmame and gmameui and upon starting it is asking where the mame executables are.  I have no idea where to find them!03:02
hiexpo!xmame03:03
DK_2Hi all! Do "bisigi themes" work in natty 11.04? theres no repo past maverick and wondered about being gnome based or something.03:03
[thor]keithclark: in a terminal window "locate <searchterm>"03:03
Juesthi03:04
carandraugjprobe, I just searched therer and found it. You want the desktop, server or alternate version?03:04
escottkeithclark, or `which mame`03:04
kaushalhiexpo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601100/03:04
uhuhuhHello, I installed a windows software with wine. But after I remove it, some icons still left in my system application menu of unity panel. How can I delete them? I'm using 11.04 now. Thanks03:05
Juestuhuhuh: ask in #ubuntu+1 please03:05
keithclark[thor], My problem is I have no idea what the 'mame executable' will be named. What extension?03:05
bazhangJuest, thats not right03:05
[thor]Juest: 11.04 just rolled out, this is the place to be.03:05
Juestoh, sorry03:05
Juestwow!03:05
carandraugJuest, 11.04 already cmae out. He's asking on the right place03:06
bazhangJuest, natty has been released so it is supported here in #ubuntu03:06
Juestalso 10.10?03:06
[thor]keithclark: just try ' mame ' as a searchterm03:06
Juestdon't know, a bit older03:06
uhuhuhJuest: What do you mean? irc channel #ubuntu+1?03:06
DK_2#ubuntu+1 is invite only03:06
bazhanguhuhuh, ignore that03:06
escottkeithclark, it won't have an extension it will just be called mame03:06
Juestuhuhuh: don't worry, 11.04 supported here, i was wrong03:06
escottkeithclark, or have mame in the name03:07
hiexpokaushal, and those are the man pages so wanna know your download speed  sudo speedometer -rx yourinterface03:07
uhuhuhOh, thanks. But I still want to know how to solve my problem. Could someone give me some suggestions? Many thanks.03:07
Juesthow do i remove the entire gnome, is a bad one, because i installed gnome3 (no PPAs) and the gnome is unusable03:08
bazhanguhuhuh, this is classic or unity03:08
escottuhuhuh, have you deleted your .wine directory03:08
keithclark[thor], ok, it only brought up an icon file and a file called gmameui.desktop.  Somehow I don't think these are executables03:08
Laggg1hello03:08
uhuhuhbazhang: unity03:08
carandrauguhuhuh, on the previous versions there was a "main menu" on the preferences where you could remove the entries from the menu. Not sure on 11.04 but shouldn't be too diferent03:08
Juestand i can't remove gnome things03:08
Laggg1I have upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and I have lost my GRUB03:08
Laggg1Im in a live CD right now03:08
jprobecarandraug, I see it now.  I was looking to zsync my 11.04 and was looking in the alt download section and didn't see the amd64 10.04 desktop, but apparently it's a main option on the desktop download page.  Thanks!03:08
DK_2Do "bisigi themes" work in natty 11.04?03:08
Laggg1I've mounted my SDA103:08
Laggg1but I uh, cant seem to go on with the right commands03:09
Juestwhere i can edit grub static configuration?03:09
carandraugjprobe, no problem03:09
Laggg1chroot isnt working03:09
uhuhuhcarandraug: Yes, I delete it from the main menu in the preferences. But it still in unity panel.03:09
bluefoxicydoes anyone know how to edit file associations03:09
doobienwhen i am using compiz, it only lets me select 1 desktop - anybody ever have that problem?03:09
bluefoxicyI need to permanently and completely remove all references to one03:09
bluefoxicyparticularly, after I upgraded to 11.04, SOMEHOW my system did something retarded03:09
bluefoxicyand now whenever something attempts to open a folder, it opens WITH VLC03:09
Juesthow do i force compiz to enable anyway?03:10
bluefoxicyso load old style gnome03:10
Laggg1Can anyone help me solve this grub_rescue problem since I upgraded to 11.04?03:10
bluefoxicyplaces->Home Folder03:10
bluefoxicymy home folder opens in VLC03:10
bluefoxicyI cannot find the configuration file contaning this03:10
tasei created a usb live cd with 2gb of storage for ubuntu 10.10, did apt-get upgrade and now i've run out of space? even if the update size was 256mb downloaded, 55mb taken ?03:10
escottLaggg1, sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu/boot (if you have a /boot partition); sudo chroot /mnt/ubuntu; sudo grub-install /dev/sda03:10
bobopolos i set up a bridge in linux with brctl, i can ping both sides of the bridge from linux, and ping the linux machine from each side, but cant ping accros (from one side of the bridge to the other). any suggestions?03:10
carandrauguhuhuh, oh! I haven't tried unity yet so can't help you with that. Maybe it'll update the list when you restart unity. Try log out and log back in03:10
Juestanybody read my iusses?03:10
MadDecentdoes anyone know anything about getting HDMI out working on a netbook? I'm on a Asus EeePC 1015N running 11.0403:10
escottLaggg1, sorry left out two... after mount onto /mnt/ubuntu but before chroot mount --bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev and the same for /proc03:11
uhuhuhcarandraug: Let me try. Thank you.03:11
Juestwhy ALSA/Pulseaudio is not working?03:11
Laggg1escott?03:11
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hiexpoJuest, fast channel right now whatissues you have ?03:11
Laggg1How would the commands go, proper order?03:11
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jorgpmount proc non /mnt/ubuntu/proc ; mount --rbind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev03:11
jorgpnon/none03:11
Juesthiexpo, may i pm you for iusses?03:12
escottLaggg1, make the mountpoint, mount the partition (you've done that) bind mount /dev with sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev and /proc sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc then chroot03:12
sancashello!!03:12
scorch_reduce icon size unity desktop????03:12
sancasi have a problem03:13
scorch_anyone know how to do that?03:13
deluHi, after switching over to Natty, my AWN dock no longer seems to have space reserved for it at the edge of the desktop. When I open or maximize windows, they go under the dock. How can I change the settings so that they avoid the dock? I use Compiz03:13
carandraug!problem | sancas03:13
ubottusancas: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)03:13
jformanhi all. i just upgraded to 11.04 on the desktop and i am seeing that whenever i drag a window by the title bar between monitors (i am running dual head with twinview), it always wants to maximize when i release the mounse. how can i turn this behavior off?03:13
hiexpoJuest, sure03:13
sancasi configure compiz cube with 11.04 and kabum! my ubuntu die :(03:13
Laggg1mount point /mnt/ubuntu/dev does not exist03:13
keithclarkOk, another tact....is there an irc channel for gmameui?03:13
sancasthe windows manager i cant show it03:13
bazhang!alis | keithclark03:14
ubottukeithclark: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu*03:14
bitplanejforman, both behaviours should work together. works for me anyway03:14
escottLaggg1, you have to adjust that to where you mounted your ubuntu system (check by running mount)03:14
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jformanbitplane: work together meaning, that if i have one, i must have the other? (i want dual monitors, but not the behavior that dragging the title bar maximizes it)03:14
keithclarkbazhang, thanks, searched and none found.03:14
sroy2Hi - I am using apache to host 2 domains on 127.0.0.1:80 and nginx to reverse proxy them out on my ip 1.2.3.4:80. I was wondering how I had to modify the /etc/hosts to allow both domains to be put on both ips?03:15
jorgpinteresting, unity will not run in a virtualbox?03:15
bitplanejforman: no I mean if you drag all the way to the left or right you go to the next desktop, if you almost touch the edge you get the Win7 style window half-maximized thing03:15
Laggg1escott: chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory03:15
escottjorgp, not without guest addiytions03:15
sebsebsebjorgp: yes it does if set up right03:15
sebsebsebescott: jorgp no you don't just install the guest additions for it either,  hold on i'll get a proper link or two03:16
sebsebsebescott: jorgp a proper link03:16
escottLaggg1, can you pastebin the output of mount and the output of ls /mnt/blah where blah is what the folder where you mounted your ubuntu system03:16
jorgpthanks03:16
fillayuwhat's the package name of the default firefox? I want to upgrade firefox 4.0.103:16
jformanbitplane: ahh, think i found my issue... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743309. thank goodness. appreciate your help03:16
sebsebsebjorgp: What's your host OS by the way?03:16
Laggg1im supposed to do this to the ubuntu system?03:16
heyguisehey03:16
jorgposx03:16
Laggg1Im doing this to the Win7 HDD03:17
Laggg1I have two seperate HDDs.03:17
keithclarkOk, one last try.  Does anyone know how to setup gmameui in Ubuntu?03:17
heyguisewhat is zeitgiest-datahub zeitgiest-daemon and zeitgiest-datah03:17
heyguise?03:17
Laggg1Am I supposed to mount the ubuntu HDD?03:17
escottLaggg1, yes you mount the ubuntu system, chroot into it, and then install grub to the mbr of the disk03:17
sebsebsebjorgp: ok well follow these instructions and it should work I guess:  http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/03:18
sebsebsebhttp://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/03:18
jorgpthanks03:18
KM0201!de | heyguise03:18
ubottuheyguise: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.03:18
brzHey -- I installed a program in ubuntu, and messed up the .conf file, so I uninstalled it, and 'rm -r <dir>, to delete old .conf files, now when I install it again via apt-get, the directory is empty, anyone kno why this would be?03:18
sebsebsebjorgp: ok sure good luck with that,  and I hope you try out quite a few distro's in vm :)03:18
xsinick_laptopare we getting ubuntu 12  fix for Natty03:18
xsinick_laptop?03:18
heyguiseSorry...  Idont speak german?03:18
KM0201heyguise: what you posted, looks like german03:19
jorgpsebsebseb: I have gentoo is working fine, just wanted to try out natty03:19
sebsebsebjorgp: ok :)03:19
heyguiseits a german word yes. It means spirit of the times...but I'm asking what these processes are because they make me paranoid.03:19
teknowillthe guy was just telling people where channels where03:20
teknowillde channels03:20
sebsebseb!!de03:20
ubottuIn den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.03:20
teknowillgerman03:20
teknowilli think it's a bot though, just to help them find it03:20
twotenHelp! I just upgraded to Natty and I've lost all my window borders and decorations - I have clicked away at ccsm and emerald but it will not come up03:21
trismheyguise: zeitgeist keeps track of recently used files for the unity files and folders lens03:21
sebsebseb!bot | teknowill03:21
ubottuteknowill: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots03:21
twotenI'm using the Ubuntu Classic Gnoem desktop03:21
carandraugheyguise, I think it allows to search for files based on modification date03:21
trismheyguise: if you install the gnome-activity-journal and log out/back in you can run it and see what zeitgeist keeps track of03:21
heyguiseAhh, thank you guys.03:21
heyguiseIt looked like a RAT i saw once.03:21
heyguiseso i started to get paranoid03:21
varunvyasHI, I was trying to upgread to 11.04, after downloading packages it stuck in installing packages and my machine swiched off due to power failure. now when I am trying to upgread it says partial upgread and that to  failing.03:21
varunvyasplease help03:21
cylincHello, is the ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso can be directly used to make a live usb, just dd if=iso of=/dev/sdb ?03:22
carandraugheyguise, makes searches faster because it shows first the files and applications you used more frequently on the last times03:22
bitplanetwoten, sounds like Compiz has died. open a command prompt and type "killall compiz; setsid compiz --replace"03:22
xion56its there more winamp styled gui for ubuntu than audacious and xmms?03:22
xsinick_laptopis there a new reissuing?03:22
sebsebseb!imfo celementine03:22
kpomanhey guys ! I think I solved my issue (fglrx incompatibility) ... how do I enable desktop effects on 11.04 ? they seem disabled03:22
carandraugxion56, as far as I know no. xmms2 is a completely different thing by the way03:22
sebsebsebxion56: try clementine yeah the name of that fruit :D03:23
genesishi03:23
Spaz_Dynamicso I've got a headless 10.10 installation, how can I enable another repository (canonical partners specifically) to make sure that java is is the correct version?03:23
bitplanevarunvyas: I recommend archiving your /home/youruser directory and saving it somewhere, then reinstalling from scratch03:23
kpomanis there somewhere to enable desktop effects ?03:23
sebsebsebxion56: there's a music player called that, and it's pretty good03:23
escottkpoman, if it doesn't come back on logout login try unity --replace03:23
mistervinblackhow there.., ca anyone tell me how to install vpn on ubuntu???03:23
bitplanekpoman, press left super and type ccsm"03:23
bitplane*ccsm03:24
carandraugmistervinblack, which one?03:24
xsinick_laptopis this how ubuntu will be from here on?03:24
NighthwkCan anyone tell me on to add widgets on the toolbar on ubuntu 11.003:24
cylincI failed to boot from USB just execute "dd if=ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=8M",which /dev/sdb1 has been set bootable with fat16 fs03:24
kpomanbitplane: did that, saw my 4 desktops03:24
[segfault]My google-fu is weak tonight... anyone know of a quick way to restore my emerald themes after Maverick to Natty upgrade?  running 'emerald --replace' causes a segfault.  :(03:24
sebsebsebxsinick_laptop: Is what how Ubuntu will be from now on?03:24
mistervinblackgive me the link please, I'm new in ubuntu :)03:24
Spaz_DynamicI might also note that I'm connected via PuTTY SSH, if that matters or not03:24
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varunvyasupdate manager is closing when I click on upgread03:25
xsinick_laptopnightwk03:25
Nighthwkyes?03:25
Juestmistervinblack: READ THE TOPIC!03:25
bitplanexsinick_laptop: I imagine it will get better, Unity is Canonical's way of making their own desktop experience without having to go through the design by committee method of open source design. so I guess we'll get a slicker desktop experience in future03:25
mistervinblackokay.., I'm sorry :)03:25
carandraugmistervinblack, there's several kinds of VPN. And I'm assuming you want to connect to someplace through VPN and not install a VPN server yourself03:25
xsinick_laptopyou can not add  widgets03:25
bitplaneif you don't like it then go back to gnome desktop manager or install kubuntu03:25
loculinuxh03:25
izinucsSpaz_Dynamic: check out /etc/sources.list or sources.lst.. forgot.. that's where your repos are listed.. it should be there but commented out.. just remove the comments03:25
NighthwkSo they took it out?03:25
sebsebsebheyguise: or the Gnome ppa or something :D03:25
sebsebsebuh competly wrong one03:26
sebsebsebbitplane: or the Gnome 3 ppa or something03:26
kpomanbitplane: see here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/desktopeffects ... they talk about a visual effects option in appearance. I dont have that option !!!03:26
izinucskpoman: in unity?  they are on by default.. install compiz-config-settings-manager and tweek from there.03:26
bitplanekpoman, use Compiz Config instead. all the options are in there03:27
escottkpoman, try compiz &03:27
mistervinblacki see, thanks for your info.., I'm still reading for vpn articles03:27
bitplanekpoman, if you're using Unity 3d (the default) then you have desktop effects enabled anyway03:27
xsinick_laptopAnyone here that likes the new Natty is a mac  user or a twitter generation under 2003:27
kpomanizinucs: I think I dont use unity ... dont know why. I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and dont see any desktop difference apart from no effects03:27
carandraug!vpn | mistervinblack03:28
ubottumistervinblack: For more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN03:28
mistervinblackwhois escott03:28
kpomanizinucs: is there something to do to get unity ?03:28
Kage!tx03:28
mistervinblackthanks ubottu & carandraug03:28
bitplanexsinick_laptop: yeah and anyone who uses a GUI just can't handle the command line and doesn't have a beard or smell of wee03:28
xsinick_laptopI like seeing my file menu and it be part of my window03:28
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carandraugmistervinblack, ubottu is a bot. You ask him stuff with commands, for example !vpn and he'll tell you about it03:29
xsinick_laptopI like adding widgets that show my cpu s and weather realtime03:29
kpomanoops started unity as root and that stuffed it all03:29
xsinick_laptopI also like proper dual screen support03:29
sumyunguyhow do I update from 10.10 to natty?03:29
bitplanexsinick_laptop: what do you mean by "proper dual screen support"?03:30
DelicatesAnyone can recommend a dual-band PCI-Express 802.11n card/chipset that supports both 2.4GHz and 5GHz?03:30
bitplanexsinick_laptop: I've got 3 screens here, works okay for me (so long as primary output is the leftmost monitor, which is a bug)03:30
IanLiuI cannot login in my Ubuntu anymore. I select my user, type the password in, but the screen returns to the login. Can anyone help me solving this problem?03:30
xsinick_laptopsumyunguy:  please do not you will chuck your mouse at you computer screen03:30
mistervinblack!vpn and he'll tell you about it03:30
sumyunguyLOL03:30
Sengokuhey03:30
Sengokujust hopped on ubuntu 11.. wireless went away03:31
sumyunguyX: why?03:31
Kageis there a channel ubuntu kernel issues?03:31
xsinick_laptopbitplane:  please install blender and tell me how it behaves for you03:31
Juestkage, this is the support channel for all03:31
carandraugmistervinblack, no. Just enter "!vpn"03:31
mistervinblackok03:31
bitplanexsinick_laptop: report any bugs to all relevant parties03:32
mistervinblack!vpn03:32
ubottuFor more information on vpn please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VPN03:32
NictraSaviosHmm, long time no see. I've been shifted within the team, so now I have to use Windows.... oh well, 2 months then osx, then 2 months then Linux :P BUT. I still have all my linux knowledge and will continue to help :)03:32
gtlarueso, "movie player" is the culprit of my audio issues03:32
xsinick_laptopbitplane:  i like to complain live and have it yeild no results03:32
gtlarueafter I run it, all the audio on the machine gets choppy and distorted, and I have to reboot to make it normal again03:32
NictraSaviosHmm, any open issues mentioned before i came?03:32
bitplanexsinick_laptop: haha okay03:32
varunvyasplease help03:32
Sengokucan someone help me with wireless03:32
KageI get a "tx refused but queue active" crash03:33
NictraSaviosvarunvyas, I can help03:33
izinucsOk.. so what's the verdict on a system with dual monitors.. is natty ok or more difficult to be productive?03:33
carandraugmistervinblack, there's a lot of commands. You can ask him on a private window to not fill the channel03:33
jorgpsebsebseb: unity working good now. thank03:33
jorgpthanks03:33
varunvyasMy upgread to 11.04 stuck while ins talling03:33
sebsebsebjorgp: ok awesome :) and your welcome03:33
NictraSaviosSengoku, Go to terminal , run "lspci | grep -i network" and paste the results to paste bin03:33
NictraSavios!pastebin | Sengoku03:33
ubottuSengoku: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:33
bitplaneizinucs: no real difference here IMO, also when I was on beta 1 I just used GDM instead because of an ATI driver bug. choose ubuntu classic at login and you get the old desktop03:33
sebsebsebjorgp: and yeah this is a great way to try out Unity, since don't need to put Ubuntu on real hardware as a result :)03:33
plummerbAlright, posted my Desktop stretching issue to the Ask Ubuntu site.  Hope someone knows if there is a fix...03:34
NictraSaviosvarunvyas, What step is it on?03:34
Sengoku0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) , NictraSavios03:34
gartrali have a laptop that has an *insane* battery.. it lasts about 9 hours. the indicator turns red.. at around 2:40 hours left.. how do i change that?03:34
plummerbGood night all.  Have a good weekend....03:34
varunvyasinstalling03:34
xsinick_laptopvarunvyas: I told you guys this new edition is not good03:34
bitplaneizinucs: you get the win7 style window resizing thing which is cool, you can have two partially maximized windows per screen03:34
jorgpsebsebseb: yp, works great with osx and virtualbox03:34
NictraSaviosSengokiu, Did you check to see if its supported or not?03:34
izinucsbitplane: if you go the upgrade route (provided it actually works) do your "bar" setups still remain?03:34
SengokuNictraSavios: it worked on ubuntu 1003:34
scorch_has anyone had luck installing dropbox to 11.04?03:34
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mistervinblackthanks03:34
NictraSaviosSengoku, Thats great, But thats not your issue :P Must be a regression. One sec.03:35
trismscorch_: yes, it works fine03:35
xsinick_laptopscorch_:  my point exactly03:35
plummerbWatch out for those insane batteries...  They can do strange things...  LOL03:35
Spaz_DynamicI forget, was Lucid a LTS release?03:35
izinucsbitplane: yes.. on natty.. ctrl+alt+4 or 603:35
MaMaGoodyhi, can I choose workspace by putting some applet in statusbar in new ubuntu?03:35
NictraSaviosvarunvyas, :P Click "Show details"03:35
Kagewhat file determines which modules get loaded?03:35
bitplaneizinucs: I'm not sure, do you mean the GDM panel things? I was using AWN with no bottom bar and that was exactly the same after I upgraded03:35
LagggEscott, im stuck at grub rescue screen03:35
varunvyasalso when I restarted, my box and tried to run, it says not able to get exclusive lock close all apt. I checked in ps but there's no up running03:35
MK``Are releases like 10.04.1, that have been superseded by 10.04.2, supported, or is only the most recent point release supported?03:35
izinucsbitplane: yes03:35
xsinick_laptopto be honest the ui design is seriously flawed03:35
escottLaggg, ok so you got grub to load, but its not giving you a menu03:36
scorch_trism: me no go, its stuck at 97% unpack03:36
frankcox777hi everyone03:36
sebsebsebxsinick_laptop: the people who run this channel, don't like people complaining about Unity in here03:36
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LagggYeah grub.env.export not found03:36
varunvyasso what should I do to rerun upgread :(03:36
NictraSaviosSengoku, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%2903:36
sebsebsebxsinick_laptop: however loads of good atlerantives.  Gnome Shell the proper interface for Gnome 3, and so on :)03:37
Juestok, where i can find the static grub configuration?03:37
xsinick_laptopsebsebseb: that's why it is the way it is and the main userbase is getting pissed off about it03:37
bitplanesebsebseb: tough shit, change something as huge as teh default desktop experience and people are bound to complain. specially when people have customized gdm for years and it all stops working03:37
frankcox777I cannot get cable working in new install of Ubuntu 10.4 -the same cable works on 9.403:37
Tophi just upgraded to 11.04 and i can't log in. I have logged in successfully in safe mode03:37
truepurpleAnyone here know anything about ATI/AMD video drivers for ubuntu?03:37
sebsebsebbitplane: yeah indeed I know03:37
bitplaneToph, what happens?03:37
Juestand how do i add new users to sudoers list?03:37
NictraSaviosvarunvyas, It sounds like your install went screwy. I could help you fix it for hours, butyour best bet is to backup all your data, and do a fresh install03:37
NictraSaviosbrb.03:37
escottLaggg, well you can do a minimal boot as set root (hd1,#) linux /boot/vmlinuz-??? root=/dev/sdb#03:37
Lagggescott maybe its looking in the wrong spot?03:37
Juestbecause i can't use vi/visudo03:37
sebsebsebbitplane: and I don't like Unity much myself really, but still what I just said03:37
IdleOnebitplane: keep the language clean please03:37
carandraugJuest, you must run visudo03:37
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gartrali have a laptop that has an *insane* battery.. it lasts about 9 hours. the indicator turns red.. at around 2:40 hours left.. how do i change that?03:38
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Sengokuk fforget this distro03:38
escottLaggg, initrd /boot/initrd.img????; boot03:38
Sengokui'm going back to ubuntu 1003:38
Sengokuthis is so weird03:38
xAndromedadoes anybody know how i can resize the application launcher? it looks ugly as fck fullscreen03:38
escottLaggg, thats 4 commands total03:38
Tophbitplane,,, i get to the login screen with my name and all, I enter my password, screen goes blank for some seconds and returns to the login screen03:38
sumyunguyIf I want to install unity in 10.10 desktop, do I install the netbook version?03:38
sebsebsebxsinick_laptop: yep indeed I know, but well should be a good thing for other desktop envrionments and other distro's, so not that big a deal really :)03:38
NictraSaviosback.03:38
escottLaggg, you can use ls to fill in the details on the version numbers03:38
Juesttoph: how did you installed the system?03:38
carandraugJuest, you can try with a normal text editor but then there'll be no check after editing. And you may end up with an unusable sudo conf file03:38
bitplaneToph, have you tried using the "Ubuntu Classic" option from the drop-down at the bottom of the screen? sounds like Unity is crashing03:38
izinucsxAndromeda: install compiz-config-settings manager and do it there.. click on the "unity" plugin03:38
NictraSaviosSengoku, Hmm, too complex? If you want i can help walk you through it.03:39
gartralToph: sounds like your out of free space in /home03:39
TophJuest,,, i upgraded03:39
xsinick_laptopsebsebseb:  ok you got me there lol03:39
escottLaggg, since you have two drives there is always the possibility that you are booting a grub on the wrong mbr03:39
Tophbitplane,,, i haven't03:39
izinucsxAndromeda: but be aware that it will only go to 1/2 screen :(03:39
ZenGuy311 does unity work with intel on board graphics?03:39
escottLaggg, so I always recommend installing grub to both mbrs03:39
truepurpleAnyone here know anything about ATI/AMD video drivers for ubuntu?03:39
Juestcarandraug: how does that check work?03:39
izinucsZenGuy311: yes03:39
Tophgardar,,, i can check that03:39
NictraSaviosZenGuy311, If it supports openGL , yep.03:39
SengokuNictraSavios: my Guake is all messed up.. I can't alt-tab :S03:39
Name141Is there something else like super_pi you can use to benchmark the CPU and tell how fast it is instead of just stressing it ?03:39
ZenGuy311izinucs: thanks03:39
FoolsRuncan you run both Unity and Unity-2d on the same system?03:39
Juestand what's the syntax?03:39
sumyunguyjoin #ayatana03:39
bitplanetruepurple: I'm using ATI gfx, can't say I know much about it other than it mostly just works. what do you need to know?03:39
escottLaggg, which you could do from either a chroot or if you can get a boot from the rescue prompt03:39
izinucsFoolsRun: yes.. but unity-2d looks like the old gnome03:40
carandraugJuest, I don't know. After editing the file, before saving, visudo checks if there's something wrong and if there is, it doesn't save03:40
Sengokuwhy would they disable alt-tab :S03:40
izinucsold gnome ... lol03:40
NictraSaviosSengoku, Hmm, hate to say it, but yea. 10.10 or LTS will work. If you want my opinion. Unity isnt worth it yet, wait till 12.04 or mabey 11.10.03:40
truepurplebitplane: I need to know which driver option is best for a radeon 685003:40
Tophbitplane,,, let me try ubuntu classic03:40
sebsebsebxsinick_laptop: we are getting a bit off topic here, but really that's what Ubuntu is now, a first stepping stone distro for many people straight from Windows or Mac OS X, and many will move on to another distro later on :)  Linux Mint would be another example lf this.   at the end of the day, they are all Destkop Linux though, and that's wht I care about :)03:40
xAndromedaizinucs: i dont see it... O.o03:40
SengokuNictraSavios: i'm going back to kde 3.503:40
carandraugJuest, but to tell the true, I'm fairly confident on my skills at editing the sudoers file and always use nano or gedit03:40
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bitplanetruepurple: oh, can't help you there, I have a 5970 and chose the default driver from the notification in the notification bar03:40
Juestcarandraug: i am not a vi user, so i can't use visudo :(03:40
NictraSaviossebsebseb, Unless your grandma. Then you dont care. Thats what Ubuntu is about. A Distro for all.03:40
SengokuNictraSavios: so i have to do a full format?03:41
jorgpsebsebseb: I can not wait to see what gnome 3 will look like03:41
Juesti need that check03:41
xsinick_laptopwhy is blender spanning two workspaces  even in classic mode on my dual screens03:41
xsinick_laptopthis makes my sooo very angery03:41
truepurplebitplane: I can install through a terminal command, additional drivers, or download the driver off of ATIs site03:41
NictraSaviosSengoku, Not a full, i would just format your root , dont worry about your home. (But it may screw things up, so if you want to be 100%, go for it :) )03:41
xAndromedaizinucs: if its under i looked in behavior and experimental and both dont seem to have a related setting03:41
Juestcarandraug: ^^^^^03:41
lordofthedancecan anyone tell me what the heck ive done: i am using a 21" screen with a widescreen resolution and i plugged in a 15" screen just to play around and i clicked detect monitors and a prompt came up recommending auto detect resolution sizes and now i cant set my main monitor above 1024x768 even after removing the smaller monitor and rebooting. does anyone have any suggestions? i feel like im missing something simple03:41
MagusOTBWhat's the command-line thing to upgrade to 11.04?03:41
sumyunguyIf I want to install unity in 10.10 desktop, do I install the netbook version?03:41
xsinick_laptopevery thing I luanch it I have to manually resize that sh** ?03:41
truepurplebitplane: Notification in notification bar? What do you mean?03:41
xsinick_laptop:(03:41
Sengokusumyunguy: no you don't03:41
hiexpoJuest, replace nano with vi03:41
xsinick_laptopwahhhhh03:41
NictraSaviosSengoku, Unless you have the same / and /home partitions. The yes. Full.03:41
SengokuNictraSavios: i do :(03:42
sumyunguyOK what do I do?03:42
carandraugJuest, I feel your pain bro. I'm not one either03:42
izinucsxAndromeda: humm.. I could have sworn it was there.. I changed mine last week.. maybe someone here will be able to chime in.03:42
truepurplebitplane: Do you use 11.04?03:42
sebsebsebNictraSavios: no it's not for everyone, but uhmm well me,  you,  jorgp and xsinick_laptop and anyone else who wants to continue this subject, we should move in that case to #ubuntu-offtopic or IdleOne may tell us off03:42
ZenGuy311lordofthedance: maybe you have mirror monitos on and the settings of the smaller monitor is still enabled03:42
LagggEscott whats the command to boot? Room is too fast03:42
MagusOTBI remember it being not apt-get dist-upgrade03:42
lordofthedancezenguy311 any idea how to disable?03:42
bitplanetruepurple: the additional drivers notification that pops up after you install. I suggest trying that first, if it doesn't work then remove the drivers using apt-get from the command line and try another option03:42
sumyunguy@sengoku what should I do?03:42
lordofthedancei did try that setting03:42
LagggPm me the cmd plz03:42
ZenGuy311go to monitors and uncheck mirror mononitors03:42
lordofthedanceit seemed to not work tho03:42
NictraSaviosSengoku, Back it up, If you dont have a speical harddrive or partitions for backup, DVD-DL or DVD-R work great. USB Keys break every second month for me. I have disks that have backups from when i was 12.03:42
xAndromedaizinucs: kk thx anyways! i have a 2600x1200 screen and having it take my entire screen is just the most annoying thing on earth03:43
LagggWill <3 u 4 evar lol03:43
Tophbitplane,,, Ubuntu Classic works03:43
sebsebsebbitplane: #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue the convo :)03:43
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NictraSaviosSengoku, So USB Backup = 2 months. DVD = 5+ Years.03:43
FoolsRunRE above: I don't think Ubuntu will be a stepping stone to other distros any more than Windows is a stepping stone to other Linux distros. Some people just like a desktop operating system03:43
truepurplebitplane: Try what first? My card was already in my system before I installed ubuntu03:43
lordofthedanceis there anyway to get ubuntu to check my monitor for max resolution settings? it doesnt seem to be a mirror issue03:44
cardamonAnyone know how I would switch from Unity 3D to Unity 2D?03:44
linuxhttp://www.ubuntu.com03:44
carandraugJuest, I was reading visudo man page and it seems you can ask to use another text editor such as nano03:44
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, Wait till ubuntu comes preloaded on Dell pcs. Then its windows all over again. Nobody knows there was a windows in 100 years. Cus everyone will use Linux.03:44
FoolsRuncardamon: sudo apt-get install unity-2d     then choose unity-2d from the session menu at login03:44
NictraSavioscarandraug, Juest . Run EDITOR=gedit visudo03:44
Juestand, i don't know how to use nano, maybe emacs?03:44
Juestok03:45
linuxl do not know.03:45
FoolsRunNictraSavios: how is that a bad thing?03:45
Juestthanks NictraSavios :)03:45
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, Cus then nobody will know the differance. Nobody will remember us.03:45
carandraugJuest, everyone knows who to use nano03:45
Juesti don't03:45
FoolsRunNictraSavios: I don't get it03:45
Juestwelll, i prefer GUIs03:46
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, Personaly... I love peoples faces when i tell them " I Run Linux, Windows and OSX on one computer." I dont wanna lose that. I like being differnt. :)03:46
SengokuNictraSavios: why is there no alt+tab?03:46
xAndromedaSOOOOOOOOOOO FUGLY!!!!03:46
Juestx/gtk or console03:46
izinucsxAndromeda: that's high rez.. what kind of monitor?03:46
NictraSaviosSengoku, Im pretty sure it was used for somthing else in 11.04.03:46
mrdebis 1104 stable?03:46
truepurplebitplane: Try what first? My card was already in my system before I installed ubuntu03:46
Juestyes, now is03:47
FoolsRunNictraSavios: so you're more interested in being part of an elite group than in there being a usable third option for normal users?03:47
bitplanetruepurple: did you try the additional drivers thing?03:47
mrdebis it? what p[roof do you have03:47
izinucsmrdeb: yes03:47
truepurplebitplane: I mentioned it specifically03:47
SengokuNictraSavios: so how do you juggle between your applications?03:47
izinucsmrdeb: been running it for 3 weeks03:47
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, Pretty much. Its why i became a white hat. Its why i use archlinux.03:47
mrdebizinucs: you lucky03:47
truepurplebitplane: Are you using 11.04?03:47
izinucsSengoku: alt+tab03:47
NictraSaviosSengoku, On the sidebar youll see dots on the open thingys.03:47
izinucsmrdeb: maybe..03:47
xAndromedaizinucs, its a samsung. i dont think they make them anymore though03:47
researcher123is there a saperate forum for 11.04?03:47
xAndromedaizinucs, cost me a small fortune03:48
NictraSaviosresearcher123, there was, its here now.03:48
Sengokuizinucs: oh doesn't work for me03:48
izinucsxAndromeda: I'll bet..03:48
bitplanetruepurple: yeah I've been using it since beta 1, I installed the drivers from the additional drivers menu thing03:48
carandraugJuest, seriously. Everyone knows how to use nano, even if they never tried it before. Or at least the basic things. You move with the arrow keys, and write and delete with the rest of the keyboard. There's no command and insert modes. And all the commands you need are written on the bottom of the window all the time03:48
izinucsSengoku: "doesn't work" is pretty vague.. what's not working?03:48
researcher123beofre I try 11.04 want to know what additional features r introduced03:48
FoolsRunNictraSavios: I just don't get it, I guess. I like computers to be easy for everyone to use, not complicated so that only a special few can take part.03:48
truepurplebitplane: So your using unity now with it?03:48
Daniel_someone speaks portuguese?03:48
Sengokuizinucs: alt+tab03:48
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, I'm selfish tbh. I've always been "the player" "the nerd" "that guy", Ive always wanted to stand out and i have the physical and mental means to do so. I also have an obsession with making things work and look perfect.03:49
izinucsSengoku: perhaps you have the wrong keyboard setup03:49
carandraugDaniel_, sim03:49
carandraug!pt | Daniel_03:49
ubottuDaniel_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.03:49
xsinick_laptoppeople on here are egotistical  there should be free speech  even if it's about unpleasantness and  complaining the wise know it comes from love03:49
Tophbitplane,,, the new desktop fails to boot for me, but Classic works fine,, does that indicate that Unity is crashing?03:49
izinucsresearcher123: you gotta be kidding... there's so much info out there on the web about the differences.. search03:49
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, Yea i see, and agree with, your point :)03:49
frankcox777would someone be kind enough to help me get my cable broadband going in Ubuntu 10.4-it works fine in 9.403:49
bitplaneresearcher123: new desktop experience with a sidebar and search instead of menus (called Unity), windows 7 style maximization and window moving, fully integrated with Compiz. Currently not very mature and may have some teething problems but in fairness it's not that bad03:50
xsinick_laptopI love ubuntu  as far as 10.1003:50
FoolsRunNictraSavios: but surely you see the advantage of a useful, functional, uncomplicated distro for people like, case in point, my wife who has Natty on a netbook and loves it.03:50
selektaI need help03:50
carandraug!ot | xsinick_laptop03:50
ubottuxsinick_laptop: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:50
emetcan I stop unity from autohiding03:50
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truepurplebitplane: So your using unity now with it?03:50
spthysis_hi03:50
emetI like it but the autohiding is annoying03:50
dios_miohey03:50
spthysis_I have 11.04 on my Macbook Air 11inch03:50
Tophhey dios_mio03:50
spthysis_everything works fine03:50
dios_miotoph :P03:50
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, Theres only one reason i dont use natty. The application button. Way to unorganised for me. My OCD goes wild.03:50
researcher123bitplane: thanks.Where can I get a tour of features?03:50
spthysis_except the sound.03:50
bitplanetruepurple: yes I'm using Unity with ATI proprietary drivers that automatically installed03:50
Tophdios_mio,,, ,, my Unity is crashing03:50
spthysis_The sound doesn't work at all03:50
spthysis_:/03:50
selektaI just tried to install 11.04 and it gave me an error and restarted and now I'm stuck at purple screen that says the disk drive for / is not reaqdy yet or present03:51
mrdebbitplane: do prop drivers ati work ok03:51
emetcan you stop unity from autohiding03:51
FoolsRunholy crap! since when can you use XBMC as your session at login?! Awesome!03:51
bitplaneresearcher123: I'd guess YouTube is probably your best bet, search for ubuntu unity03:51
spacemagicCHAOS!03:51
tensorpuddingemet: install ccsm, configure the unity plugin03:51
truepurplebitplane: What do you think about using the closed source drivers instead?03:51
dios_miotoph, did you install video card drivers?03:51
cardamonNeed to switch from Unity3D to Unity2D. Already installed the packages, but it hasn't altered my login options, which remain Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (No Effects), etc.03:51
truepurplebitplane: And how do I go about installing them?03:51
researcher123bitplane: ok.thanks03:51
FoolsRunNictraSavios: actually I like that. I use Win7 at work and am always tapping the Windows key and searching, and the Application button has that same functionality.03:51
bitplanetruepurple: I'm using the proprietary drivers because I need "eyefinity" with 3 monitor support03:51
cardamonUnity 3D uses a lot of compositing which my two year old netbook's Intel 945GMA hates.03:51
spacemagici can still boot into 10 using grub after installing 11 i assume..?03:51
dios_miotoph, run "additional drivers"03:51
xsinick_laptopNictraSavios: exactly it looks like poor UI design  with no clarity03:52
Tophdios_mio,,, the propietary video driver that is listed in Additional Drivers is installed03:52
mikinanuqfrankcox777: what's wrong with your cable modem?03:52
researcher123can I upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04?03:52
frankcox777nothing03:52
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, And i fix alot of computers each day. Me and 7 guys share a live/work space as a group of whitehat hackers for hire. We also fix computers in our spare time. When someone comes to me for a reformat job, or a system upgrade, They get the LTS.03:52
truepurplebitplane: Is that what is called "duel head"?03:52
carandraugspacemagic, not if installed 11.04 over 10.1003:52
dios_miotoph, i installed that and my untiy worked, but i still use the classic desktop03:52
researcher123i am on 10.04 can I upgrade to 11.04?03:52
cardamontruepurple: Dual, not Duel.03:52
frankcox777I can connect same cable to this machine and it works fine-03:52
Tophdios_mio,,, yes, not sure why mine isn't working03:52
carandraugresearcher123, no03:53
selektaI just tried to install 11.04 and it gave me an error and restarted and now I'm stuck at purple screen that says the disk drive for / is not reaqdy yet or present03:53
NictraSaviosxsinick_laptop, FoolsRun  We should probably take this to off-topic :/ LOL i got yelled at before for this.03:53
truepurplecardamon: Fine, is that what they mean by dual head?03:53
selektaAnyone help me?03:53
xsinick_laptopresearcher123:  warning do not  you will lose features03:53
bitplanetruepurple: no it's triple head, need special drivers to support more than two (dual) outputs. Eyefinity supports up to 6 currently03:53
carandraugresearcher123, you'll have to upgrade first to 10.1003:53
emettensorpudding, awesome thanks03:53
FoolsRunNictraSavios: you're installing Linux for customers? Brave. I don't like being on the hook like that when they hate it or it breaks.03:53
truepurplebitplane: But multiple head means multiple monitors, not cards?03:53
bitplanexsinick_laptop: if you don't like Unity don't use it, stop moaning and choose "ubuntu classic" from the log in menu03:53
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, I havent have one person complain. Ive had a few that thought it was an upgrade to Windows.03:53
researcher123ok03:53
FoolsRunNictraSavios: "Where's my Outlook" is all I'd ever hear03:54
frankcox777It is not the signal -the ehernet shows up in lshw03:54
FoolsRunBut I support businesses, not individuals, so it's different.03:54
bitplanetruepurple: yeah I'm using one card with 3 outputs, so they're all the same desktop/workspace and 3d effects work across them like a single monitor. if you have multiple cards you don't get effects across them03:54
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, I said "Sorry i upgraded it for you, its called "Evolution" now."03:54
xsinick_laptopbitplane:  you don't understand even classic mode is buggy as far  dual screening  and blender03:54
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, And people around here use hotmail for some reason.....03:54
mrdebyou dont nmeed dual screen03:54
mikinanuqfrankcox777: that doesn't tell me much... :( you're just saying it works in one and not the other...03:54
truepurplebitplane: So "head" means monitor, not card?03:54
Blake_I am back.03:54
selektaCan someone pm me and help me? The channel is too fast im on my phone03:55
Blake_Tried some more to fix my problem, but failed.03:55
NictraSaviosselekta, Reinstall.03:55
bitplanetruepurple: I guess so03:55
xsinick_laptopbitplane:  also if that is the case and everyone goes back to classic to get it to work correctly and have ubuntu organized  then what is the use of updating03:55
Blake_I can't get my RealTek RTL8111/8168B to work. Can anyone help me?03:55
NictraSaviosselekta, Format the partitions and reinstall. Only way outta that one for you.03:55
KageI am having issues loading the kernel module "mac8021" during boot03:55
selektaNictrasavios I can't I can't even login03:55
Kageits cauing a crash I think03:55
frankcox777what else can I tell you? There is nothing wrong with the connection -there is something with the software or hardware03:55
FoolsRunHuh... does rc.local run differently since 10.04? I have two commands in it that aren't running properly.03:55
researcher123I have 10.04 installed and also having CD image of 10.10.Can I upgrade to 10.10 using CD image on the same hard disk?03:56
administrator_what this?03:56
Juestresearcher123: yes you can03:56
frankcox777I can plug the cable into any of my other linux installs and no worries03:56
spthysis_Help!03:56
NictraSaviosselekta, insert your dvd/usb and preform the install of 11.04, if you dont have a install cd or usb, get to a computer somewhere and get one.03:56
researcher123Juest: whats the procedure.I have never tried it03:56
spthysis_It's as if Pulseaudio just doesn't see my sound input and output devices03:57
truepurplebitplane: What is the method of installing the open source version of the drivers? Through a terminal command?03:57
spthysis_yet runnning alsamixer returns the right device.03:57
NictraSaviosFoolsRun, People are ignorant. Use that against them "Hey i upgraded your system to "Windows Ubuntu"03:57
frankcox777I see a light from the ethernet port but it does not appear to light the end of the cable as it does on other machines03:57
cardamonNeed to switch from Unity3D to Unity2D. Already installed the packages, but it hasn't altered my login options, which remain Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (No Effects), etc.03:57
NictraSavioscardamon, reboot ?03:57
truepurplebitplane: A webpage says the open source version is actually better for 'multihead'03:57
cardamonWhy should I have to do that?03:58
DeathAtNighthello03:58
BKTech86is it possible to change the permissions of an external drive that is currently not letting me write to it because "file system is read-only" ??03:58
mikinanuqfrankcox777: is it getting an IP? do an  ifconfig and see if it has an IP.03:58
KageI am having issues loading the kernel module "mac8021" during boot... I get a error in syslog then what seems to be a crash...03:58
Saammis there a way i can sort apps as per rating in soft center03:58
frankcox777ok03:58
DeathAtNightIs their a sega emulator for linux ubuntu 11.0403:58
JuestBKTech86: yes, use mount03:58
EmuAlertIs there any system-wide dictionary that  I can reinstall? Spellcheck in empathy, firefox and gedit have all failed simultaneously03:58
BKTech86Juest: how?03:58
MadDecentdoes anyone know anything about getting HDMI out working on a netbook? I'm on a Asus EeePC 1015N running 11.0403:58
truepurplebitplane: What is the method of installing the open source version of the drivers? Through a terminal command?03:58
mikinanuqfrankcox777: look at a working one and compare03:59
NictraSavioscardamon, because rebooting makes it reload itself. It will find the ne entries then. Remember, When somthing isnt right, Reboot, Reboot Again, Google. Its called 2RAG.03:59
FoolsRunWhat log do errors from rc.local show up in? I have a couple commands that aren't starting properly since upgrading03:59
mrdebdo you recommend installing 1104 over 100403:59
BKTech86Juest: ohhh i think i know03:59
frankcox777yes03:59
* DeathAtNight hello?03:59
NictraSavioscardamon, its the first thing you should do when trying to fix problems in 90% of cases.03:59
carandraugDeathAtNight, there was on the previous versions. There should also be on 11.0404:00
mrdebdo you recommend installing 1104 over 100404:00
NictraSaviosselekta, Thats why you have to burn it on another, differant, workin, computer. For your situation there isnt another option.04:00
FoolsRunmrdeb: there's no upgrade path from 10.04 to 11.04. You have to install 10.10 first.04:00
mrdebFoolsRun: is it better i mean04:00
intel64gamerI have got a bit of a problem with my graphics card. It always runs on max voltage and frequency.04:01
FoolsRunmrdeb: depends on what you're using it for04:01
NictraSaviosmrdeb, want an option or facts04:01
* DeathAtNight is talking about that K Sega emulator that played everything sega from gen to gamegear to master system to sega cd. I have a legal copy of sega games I just need a emulator I had to switch to linux to try it\04:01
spthysis_Uhhh Hello?04:01
mikinanuqfrankcox777: type my handle when you reply.. makes it easier to read04:01
BKTech86Juest: ok, i'm apparently not using mount right, do you know how?04:01
Juest:O04:01
frankcox777ok04:01
DeathAtNightAnybody know the name of the sega emulator?04:01
FoolsRunmrdeb: if it's a "server" type machine, stick with 10.04 because it's more stable. If it's a desktop, I actually really like 11.04.04:01
NictraSaviosBKTech86, sudo mount (devicename) (filepath)04:01
Juestdon't ask me, i just only know how to mount in android04:01
frankcox777mikinanuq ok04:01
Juestand get mount help04:02
Juestis very easy to popup help04:02
BKTech86Juest: I tried mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb1 /media/drive04:02
carandraugDeathAtNight, did you search for sega on the ubuntu software center?04:02
BKTech86Juest: but it still says cannot create dir, readonly filesystem04:02
DeathAtNightYup came up just with a zsnes emulator04:02
NictraSaviosBKTech86, example. sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt < mounts fisrt partition in first harddrive in /mnt. to find Device name, use df -h04:02
researcher123how to upgrade system from 10.04 to 10.10.I have CD image of 10.10 on my hard disk04:02
DeathAtNightand somethign I didn't want04:02
frankcox777mikinanuq it gives an ip address04:02
DeathAtNightsaturn or something04:02
NictraSaviosresearcher123, click uprade button, upgrade to 10.10, then go to 11.04 the same way.04:02
BKTech86NictraSavios: i kinow how to use mount basically, but not to fix this problem of a read-only filesystem04:03
xAndromedathis lack of customization is killing me04:03
NictraSaviosBKTech86, filesystem type?04:03
carandraugDeathAtNight, hmmm. I'm on debian now and have yabause (sega saturn) and dgen (genesis and MegaDrive)04:03
BKTech86NictraSavios: hfs+04:03
DeathAtNightdgen04:03
mikinanuqfrankcox777: do you know what the IP of the router is? usually it's something like 192.168.0.1... type ping and the ip of the router. see if that works.04:03
researcher123NictraSavios: where is upgrade button?04:03
truepurplebitplane: What is the method of installing the open source version of the drivers? Through a terminal command?04:03
frankcox777mikinanuq ok04:03
carandraugDeathAtNight, did you found dgen on ubuntu?04:03
Gloopie blist04:04
bitplanetruepurple, yes but I don't know the actual command04:04
DeathAtNightI'mma look04:04
DeathAtNightinstalling woot!04:04
DeathAtNightcool cool04:04
NictraSaviosBKTech86, Not writable yet as far as i know. Check gparted > Deviced> supported, for possible packages that may solve it, you can also compile your own kernel with support, but ive never done it so i dont know if its writable then.04:04
truepurplebitplane: What about doing it through the driver command verses installing it from download off the ATI site? How much better is the download off the ATI site? And how do I install it?04:04
carandraugDeathAtNight, awesome. Good luck with it04:05
BKTech86NictraSavios: well i wrote the stuff thats on it, now all of a sudden it became this way i dont konw how though04:05
NictraSaviosresearcher123, in the updater GUI. You should find it under "System"> "admin" in the gnome menu. Use common sense to find the name, im not in ubuntu now >><04:05
lsimonsIs the sun-java6-jre package available for 11.04?04:05
escottBKTech86, mount -o remount,rw /dev/blah04:05
escottBKTech86, but i dont think hfs is writable04:05
frankcox777mikinanuq - says "network is unreachable"04:05
researcher123OK04:05
cardamonStill need a way to switch from Unity3D to Unity2D.  Already grabbed the packages.04:05
bitplanetruepurple: the ATI site download means you *may* get a later version of the drivers, but since Natty is new there's probably no difference at the moment. if you install from the site then you have to mess about if you want to uninstall04:05
BKTech86escott: yeah i did that command too, but it has to be writable because i wrote to it in the first place04:05
researcher123!upgrade04:05
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade04:05
carandraugresearcher123, should be somewhere on the update manager window04:05
NictraSaviosBKTech86, Hmm. Gah, i honestly dont know.04:06
frankcox777mikinanuq thanks for helping04:06
mikinanuqfrankcox777: can you ping the ip of that same machine? in other words can the machine ping itself?04:06
truepurplebitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?04:06
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NictraSaviosBKTech86, Hmm. backing up, then formating/remaking the partition. Other then that, im stumped.04:06
josefigHello, what may I install to save the battery life in one laptop, with plug works wonderfull but without it is not good enough.04:06
frankcox777mikinanuq will try04:06
josefig?04:06
mikinanuqfrankcox777: ok.. also what IP does the machine have?04:07
NictraSaviosjosefig, nothing to install, just watch your "power settings"04:07
NictraSaviosjosefig, Set them to save power and your done. If you need the path to them, tell me what version your running04:07
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frankcox777mikinanuq -yes04:08
truepurplebitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?04:08
KageI get a system kernel crash when I try to load the brcm80211 module04:08
spthysis_Urgh04:08
spthysis_Sound Not working04:08
spthysis_:/04:08
TrentonAdamshey guys.  The new ubuntu gnome doesn't look the same.  It looks aweful.  how do I get the old look back?04:08
frankcox777mikinanuq-both machines have same address04:09
mikinanuqfrankcox777: what is it?04:09
spthysis_urgh04:09
spikebikeTrentonAdams: at the gdm screen try ubuntu-classic04:09
frankcox777mikinanuq 127.0.0.104:09
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josefigNictraSavios, I'm runing the beta version04:09
josefigi gonna upgrade it at this moment.04:09
FoolsRunDo commands in rc.local need any kind of prefix if I want to run them as root? Or is it just one command per line?04:10
NictraSaviosjosefig, okay So use what spike bike just said. Go into regular gnome and go to "System" > "admin" > "power settings"04:10
mikinanuqfrankcox777: that IP is a "loopback" address. it doesn't do anything :( you should get a 192 address usually04:10
carandraugTrentonAdams, choose ubuntu-classic on the startup. But give unity (the new look) a try. It's very very different but there's good things about it too once you get used to it04:10
izinucsJust tried KDE compatibility in ccsm.. weird results..04:10
truepurplebitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?04:10
mrdebmikinanuq: what is loopback04:10
NictraSaviosmrdeb, Its like a bommerang.04:11
frankcox777mikinanuq-oh-I see it -brb04:11
mrdebwhat does that mean04:11
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Guest6900can someone help me make since of these partitions and why there appears to be 2 of the same?     http://imagebin.org/15093104:11
renderothis kde in natty is getting me sick, the bar is moving like crazy because the notification bar appears at the left or the right by moments. emerald and any other window decorator does not work with compiz. really disgusting04:11
Macercan someone tell me why my console is so incredibly slow? X is fine but when i swap over to a console or when it boots i can literally see the screen drawing itself04:11
NictraSaviosmrdeb, Anything you send comes right back cus 127.0.0.1 means "host" , or the computer your on.04:11
Guest6900how can i optimize and consolidate this?04:11
mikinanuqfrankcox777: when you do an ifconfig on the working pc you should see information for lo and eth0.. the lo is the loopback.. the eth0 is the actual interface. the eth0 is the one that we're concered with04:11
spthysis_HAlp04:11
spthysis_Sound isn't working04:11
spthysis_:/04:11
NictraSaviosmrdeb, So if i sent a file to it, i sent it to myself. Its like sending yourself an e-mail. Same thing.04:11
josefigNictraSavios, I configured that, but nothing changed.04:12
AbuMaiabanshee does not show as active in the launcher when running. Bug?04:12
NictraSaviosjosefig, then you need a new battery :P its not ubuntus fault.04:12
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frankcox777mikinanuq-this machine has the 192 address-the other does not04:12
truepurplebitplane: bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?04:12
josefigNictraSavios, lol is a dell new brand, on windows my batter works fine about 3hrs04:12
mikinanuqspthysis_: maybe it's a known problem.. did you do a search for your machine type and ubuntu ...04:12
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L4nce0hi guys, I'm trying to set gedit as my default editor for cpp files... how can I do this? google is failing me04:12
bitplaneGuest6900: right click the swap with the key on it and choose "swapoff", then delete the sda5 swap, then resize sda7 swap so it fills all the space04:12
josefigand on ubuntu works just like 1hr and a half04:12
NictraSaviosjosefig, i wonder whats eating it ... hmm.04:13
tss2how is 11.04?04:13
bitplaneGuest6900: then right click and choose "swapon"04:13
josefigmaybe the cpu speed04:13
JuestL4nce0: with nautilus right click and then do open with04:13
hiexpotell Juest why not to be root all the time04:13
NictraSaviostss2, Bug list hangs longer then your grandma... nvm not finsihing that.04:13
Juest!root04:13
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:13
josefigNictraSavios, 32% for 19 mins? lol04:14
Macerweird04:14
L4nce0Juest: that's what I've been doing to just open it... ah bah I see it now. Thanks! /egg on face04:14
josefigand Im not compiling or something like that.04:14
NictraSaviostss2, Jokes aside... this chat is flying faster then anything.04:14
Guest6900bitplane, what exactly are the swap partitions?04:14
tss2NictraSavios: I thought the .04 was supposed to be the stable one04:14
Maceri have a decent video card.. nv24004:14
Juestlol04:14
Macerbut when i use a console it is horrible04:14
AbuMaiaawesome bot reply for root :)04:14
NictraSaviosjosefig, Try and just let it run till it dies and time it. It may just give a wrong reading. Mine always says 0% but i have 2 hour.04:14
bitplaneGuest6900: they're like a windows "paging file", they're where your programs get pushed out to when you run out of RAM04:14
frankcox777guest6900 swap is like pagefile in windows-virtual memory04:14
NictraSaviostss2, Nope, the LTS is.04:14
mikinanuqfrankcox777: ok, the system that assigns you an IP address is called dhcp... do a ps aux | grep dhcp  to see if dhclient is working on your pc04:15
truepurple bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?04:15
frankcox777mikinanuq ok04:15
tss2NictraSavios: 11.04 isnt LTS?04:15
NictraSaviostss2, Every second 04. So 6.04,8.04,10.04,12.0404:15
josefigNictraSavios, okay I was thinking on checking something like try to develop something :P04:15
* Juest knows what are root risks/iusses, but he wants to hear the warnings again: who can tell?04:15
L4nce0Juest: selected remember for c++ source, but it's not actually having an effect =/04:15
AbuMaiatss2: nope04:15
Juest:O04:15
Juestidk why not04:15
NictraSaviostss2: Lts is every 4th release. so 9.04 LTS, then there is 10.10,11.04,11.10 and 12.04 LTs04:15
tss2ok maybe its time to go back to slackware04:16
bitplanetruepurple: yeah, you can remove it from apt-get like anything else. you can't just remove the one you install from AMD's website.. there's a shell script to uninstall that one04:16
Juest9.04 lts and 10.04 lts?04:16
truepurplebitplane: How do I remove it afterwards?04:16
spthysis_helphelphelphelphelp04:16
Guest6900bitplane, speaking of memory, i have had problems with that lately, maybe related to this then, for some reason my memory maxed out, cpu2 and wouldnt go down, and it wasnt like i was running anything intense at the time, what could cause this?04:16
L4nce0yeah, just goes back to emacs (like the one I don't know at all =P)04:16
NictraSaviostss2: I consider the LTS an actual release. he rest are beta. And 9.04 isnt an LTS.04:16
NictraSaviostss2: sorry, typo.04:16
L4nce0frairly fresh VM so dunno04:16
AbuMaiatss2: why? because 11.04 isn't LTS?04:16
NictraSaviostss2: 10.04, 10.10,11.04,11.10 and then 12.0404:17
JuestL4nce0: change preffered apps04:17
Juestshould do the trick04:17
OY1Rcan anyone help me fix this boot up problem, i cannot boot Ubuntu 10.10 >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600969/04:17
NictraSaviostss2: Bassicly, every 2 years.04:17
Wildman11.04 made me cry04:17
NictraSaviosbrb04:18
tss2AbuMaia: I also read some bad reviews for 11.04.. I'll try the live CD and see04:18
carandraugWildman, of joy?04:18
L4nce0Juest:  I've tried that too.. but no text editor field =)04:18
Wildmanmore of a cry of pain 3_304:18
byomkeshbakshiI am installing ubuntu on a parition on windows machine. I have downloaded ubuntu iso and checked md5 and burned to CD. I am able to rub ffrom CD. Now, when I install how to know which partition to choose because installer does not give option like D, E or F (my drives)04:18
Wildmani feel as though things have started going downhill since 9.1004:18
ecantohello my brothers04:19
tss2thanks NictraSavios04:19
izinucsbyomkeshbakshi: did you pre-make any partitions?04:19
ecanto:)04:19
NictraSaviosback.04:19
bitplaneOY1R: looks like your filesystem table is broken somehow, not sure how to fix it but it should be relatively simple04:19
NictraSaviosecanto, hello :)04:19
carandraugWildman, do you have a problem to ask? If it's just chatting, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic04:19
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AbuMaiatss2: this early in the game, there's gonna be almost all negative reviews until people get used to it04:19
frankcox777mikinanuq 1665 0.0 0.3 3320 800 pts/0 S+ 02:17 0.00 grep --color=auto dhcp  {dhcp  is in red]04:19
hiexpocan't remhow do i grep a conversation in irssi again ?04:19
truepurplebitplane: How do I remove it afterwards?04:19
byomkeshbakshiizinucs:yes, i have 3 partions on harddrive - on one is installed windows, one where I keep data and one completly empty04:19
tss2slackware is at v13.3704:19
bitplanetruepurple: not sure what it's called04:19
NictraSaviosAbuMaia, Canonical screwed up. Just admit it. Unity needs another 6 months and SHOULD NOT be fault yet.04:19
Wildmanit seems 10.10 works fine on this dell laptop, however after a distribution upgrade to 11.04 no form of pointing device functions.04:20
NictraSaviosAbuMaia, Its BETA. The list of bugs proves that much.04:20
spikebikeNictraSavios: dunno04:20
mikinanuqfrankcox777: hmm so all you're seeing when you run that is the ps command looking for dhcp.. that's common04:20
OY1Rbitplane, something is broken that's for sure. i cant fix it either..04:20
L4nce0Juest:  I've done it! select a .cpp, properties, open with..04:20
* spikebike is using unity right now, it's not so bad04:20
OY1Rgoogle didnt help much either.04:20
Juestand?04:20
mikinanuqfrankcox777: try   sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop  then   start04:21
Juestgreat!04:21
tss2L4nce0: gj04:21
NictraSaviosHolly damn. Ive been here for a hour and i can say. 11.04 is not ready...04:21
Juestgj :)04:21
frankcox777mikinanuq ok04:21
bitplaneOY1R: I guess you need to find the UUID of your disk and change that line in your fstab04:21
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Wildman11.04 is indeed not ready04:21
AbuMaiaNictraSavios: I'm having very little difficulty with Unity so far. I need admit nothing I do not agree with04:21
L4nce0it does it. I'll just not worry why settings aren't actually changing the proper way...04:21
izinucsbyomkeshbakshi: ubuntu will require a minimum of 2 partitions.. I recommend 3.. one for / (root), one for /swap (self explainitory, and one for /home where all your data lives.. to do that now you'll have to take the 3 partition and delete it and redo it as an extended partition.. then create 3 partitions under it.. you can do that with the installer just choose "manual" when you get to that point.04:21
bitplaneOY1R not sure how to do that though or how things work at that stage of the boot process, so take what I say with a pinch of salt04:21
NictraSaviosAbuMaia, You havent. Dont put your xp on everyone else. In a test run of 12 noobs, 5/12 crashed in within the hour.04:21
izinucsbyomkeshbakshi: how large is the 3rd partition04:22
izinucs?04:22
NictraSaviosAbuMaia, just look at the bug list and this chat.... They should have waited another month.04:22
tiresiashello all04:22
jrennerhey does anyone know what the "Additional Drivers" application is called in the repos?04:22
bitplaneNictraSavios: the crash bugs are resolved AFAIK04:22
tiresiaswhy  %sudo ALL=(NOPASSWD:ALL) ALL   doesn't work in the sudoers please?04:22
AbuMaiaNictraSavios: then don't put your experiences on me, k?04:22
hiexpotss2, don't complain if  you don't like it go back to slackware     >   good luck t o you     > maybe that is better for you04:22
torchiewhat's the terminal command to restart unity?04:22
NictraSaviosAbuMaia, didnt. I put 12 peoples.04:22
torchieor do you just compiz --replace04:22
tss2izinucs: it depends on the size of your HD04:22
torchiecorners and show desktop randomly stopped working04:23
spthysis_bitplane: How would I go about making my sound output and input work on 11.04?04:23
spthysis_bitplane: It really, really doesn't seem to be working04:23
izinucstss2: what does?04:23
tss2hiexpo: I dont complain yet, I try the live CD first04:23
jrennerhey does anyone know what the "Additional Drivers" application is called in the repos? Trying to install on a minimal04:23
AbuMaiaNictraSavios: you don't like it, don't use it04:23
FoolsRunI am an idiot04:23
byomkeshbakshiizinucs:48gb04:23
FoolsRunNote: when putting commands in rc.local, put & after them04:23
tss2izinucs: partition size04:23
nathan1111hello?04:24
bitplanespthysis_: I'm also having some pulseaudio bugs, but if you open sound preferences you should be able to configure the input/output choices through the GUI04:24
izinucsbyomkeshbakshi: ok.. 10gigs for root described as /.... 1-2 gigs for /swap and the rest for /home04:24
NictraSaviosAbuMaia, I dont, i cant for 4 months. My job tells me to use OSX , then windows, then back to Linux. Honestly? I havent tried it yet. I was unbiased.04:24
frankcox777mikinanuq says to use service networking start04:24
AbuMaiaNictraSavios: let others choose their own way04:24
Kevin147torchie: did you do metacity --replace?04:24
spthysis_bitplane: I'm on a Macbook Air 3,1 if that makes a difference04:24
torchieI DID NOT!04:24
torchiei did not!*04:24
hiexpotss2, quote   >   <tss2> ok maybe its time to go back to slackware04:24
ArtarianGuys can anyone help me with my upgrade ? I have NVIDIA 7050 630i but I receive no screens found error04:24
Kevin147torchie: oh alright... hmm try restarting gdm, sudo service gdm restart    that should fix it04:25
byomkeshbakshiizinucs:ok..when i say manual, will installer pick this empty partiton?04:25
tss2hiexpo: I said maybe.. I will say for sure after I try the live CD04:25
nathan1111where can I find on the ubuntu website a place to order an installation disk like in 10.10?04:25
NictraSaviosAbuMaia, I shall, But i'm stunned that they would release this. Enraged by the lack of customization. An idea that ubuntu, infact all of the GNU/Linux, is build off of. And most of all, that they didnt admit "We need more time"04:25
mikinanuqfrankcox777: hmm I was thinking maybe the network manager is not working... try  nm-applet  or  ps aux| grep nm-applet   to see if it's running04:25
spikebikeNictraSavios: er you sound pretty fired up04:25
kevnIs there a program that assembles docs and manpages into a simple gui?04:26
spikebikeNictraSavios: why not just pick a different desktop environemnt, not like ubuntu didn't make tht easy04:26
NictraSaviosspikebike, I always talk like that :P less so here. If you followed me on twitter you would see it 100000% more :P04:26
AbuMaiaso far, the only issue I've had with 11.04 is with Banshee04:26
[thor]nathan1111: you can still purchase a physical CD, but the free delivery service has been halted as of 11.0404:26
jgouldStupid question: Is there a meta package to install development tools to build something from source04:26
sinistradHas anyone tried the google voice notifier with unity yet? https://launchpad.net/gvoice-notifier04:26
torchiesudo service gdm didn't do anything :O04:26
abstrakthow can I make postfix deliver *any* message for *any* domain to a single local mailbox?04:26
spikebikejgould: start with apt-get install build-sessential04:26
gtlarueI am having issues with my audio, in 11.04, audio works fine until I run the "movie player" application, then audio becomes choppy and distorted, until I reboot my machine04:26
abstrakti want to run a "virtual" open relay, but just on my localhost04:26
abstraktand only while i'm doing development04:27
NictraSaviosspikebike, I'm not even on ubuntu. I was unbiased an hour ago. My job is telling me to use OSX for 2 months, then Windows for 2 months, then back to Linux for 2 months.04:27
tss2hiexpo: does that sound fair04:27
izinucsbyomkeshbakshi: yes.. but when you use the installer it will get to a point for partitioning.. choose manual.. from there you have to carve up the the empty partition.. first make it "extended".. then create the 3 partitions.. when you create the 1st there will be an option to choose the mount point.. thats where you tell it what kind of partition.. / for root etc..04:27
abstrakti don't want to bother with setting up Cyrus or a VPN04:27
carandraugjgould, yes. Can't remember their names though. You can probably find it on google04:27
frankcox777mikinanuq -applet -  an instance ia already running04:27
spikebikeNictraSavios: weird, why?04:27
ArtarianHello Folks I updated my ubuntu to 11.04 and my nvidia drivers are not working it says cant find module nvidia and it was working04:27
Kevin147torchie: do it in the terminal... sudo service gdm restart04:27
nathan1111is 11 worth it?04:27
torchieah i see04:27
carandraugjgould, I found it. It's called build-essential04:27
byomkeshbakshiizinucs:ok..cool thanks04:28
mikinanuqfrankcox777: you've already looked in that applet make sure you don't have network disabled or something weird like that04:28
jgouldspikebike, Thank you!04:28
NictraSaviosspikebike, We are Whitehat hackers for higher, to keep us from getting rusty or to used to one system, we rotate. We run on a 7 computer cluster (7 computers, one big RAID harddrive, and each has there own for our personal use)04:28
spyzerhello all, just yesterday i installed ubuntu 11.04. My issue is that my desktop GUI keeps freezing and once it freezes it never recovers. I have an ATI Radeon Mobility 4500 series graphics card and am using open source radeon driver04:28
izinucsbyomkeshbakshi: take your time.. and ask questions if you get stuck04:28
hiexpotss2, yep04:28
spyzerPlease help04:28
spikebikeNictraSavios: sensible04:28
truepurpleizinucs: What FS would you recommend for both files that both linux and windows would use?04:28
NictraSaviosspikebike, hire* sorry, the chat speed and my own distraction is making my spelling suck.04:28
spikebikespyzer: I'd use the commercial04:28
spikebikeNictraSavios: heh, I parsed it04:28
spthysis_bitplane: I've, uhhh, tried that already.04:29
izinucstruepurple: right now.. ext3.. I don't think there's a windows driver for ext404:29
mikinanuqnathan1111: it's a big learning curve. you either love it or hate it or learn to love it... i'm in the process of learning to love it...04:29
NictraSaviosspikebike, Its a live/work space on campus :P the University gives us most of the work.04:29
spyzerspikebike: the commercial one actually slowed down my entire system and i have no idea why04:29
spikebikeNictraSavios: which campus?04:29
truepurpleizinucs: But win7 recognizes ext3?04:29
frankcox777mikinanuq- sorry to be so dense but what would I do to see if network is disabled?04:29
izinucstruepurple: not natively.. there's a driver you have to install.04:29
nathan1111I have 10.10, is it easy to transition? (and i dont mean to install)04:29
spikebikespyzer: strange, I've got a 5770 and the ati catalyst drive is pretty good, I'm using 10.2, but 10.3 and 10.4 are out04:29
selektaSo. How is 11.04 any problems with it?04:29
NictraSaviosspikebike, Saint Xairver Univeristy. Better known as St. FX.04:29
spikebikeNictraSavios: UC Davis here04:30
NictraSaviosspikebike, Its in antagonish Nova Scotia :P04:30
truepurpleizinucs: But you think that is a better option then fat or NTSF?04:30
mikinanuqfrankcox777: usually the nm-applet  is a little network icon on the task tray. right click on it and see if there is a checkmark next to wired network04:30
frankcox777mikinanuq it says it is enabled on the panel04:30
spyzerspikebike: should i lanuch a bug somewhere regarding this?04:31
bitplaneI personally wouldn't run anything other than NTFS on a Windows install, sounds like asking for trouble04:31
mikinanuqfrankcox777: Enable Networking is checked?04:31
NictraSaviosspikebike, there isnt much of a tech unity here, personaly i do a double major in Physics and Chemistry feilds. This is more/less a hobby, but we do get paid.04:31
frankcox777mikinanuq   checkmark enable networking04:31
izinucstruepurple: fat is horrible.. good for usb sticks etc.. but that's about it.. linux won't use ntfs for /home but will read it .. are you creating a shared partition or are you trying to have access to the /home partiton/directory from windows?04:31
NictraSaviosspikebike, And yea, im 17 :P i was bumped up a grade in primary/middle school.04:31
carandraugtruepurple, the only one both will recognize natively is FAT. NTFS also works well on ubuntu now. The problem with these choices is that it doesn't allow Linux to control permissions the way it likes04:31
mikinanuqfrankcox777: go in to the Edit Network connections on the  applet04:31
izinucstruepurple: and is this for a dual boot or shared drive off a LAN04:31
frankcox777mikinanuq ok04:32
spikebikespyzer: that's kinda vague, but if you can track it down to something specific sure04:32
nathan1111can unity be disabled?04:32
Artarianspikebike, what about nvidia? any tutorial for those who found problem at module?04:32
sebsebsebnathan1111: yes04:32
truepurpleizinucs: Shared partition, Linux and windows will both have their own partition aside from this one04:32
ballHello, I like cake.04:32
mikinanuqfrankcox777: do you have anythnig in the "wired" tab?04:32
truepurpleizinucs: Duel boot04:32
frankcox777mikinanuq auto eth04:32
ballIs it possible to mount an .iso image04:32
spikebikeArtarian: I've two desktops, one nvidia and one ATI, in general the nvidia is the better driver04:32
sebsebsebnathan1111: switch to Ubuntu Classic Desktop from the log in screen that's one way to get rid of it.  Why do you want to of interest?04:32
ball...and then boot it from within Ubuntu?04:32
mikinanuqfrankcox777: hmm click on it and then edit..04:32
spikebikeArtarian: IMO both are good enough04:32
izinucstruepurple: so just a separate partition outside of what is normall used for either system?04:32
frankcox777mikinanuqnever used04:32
Artarianspikebike, the upgrade just f**** everything it gives me no screen found04:33
carandraugball, yes.04:33
frankcox777mikinanuq ok04:33
tensorpuddingball: what you want sounds like a virtual machine04:33
bitplaneball, everyone likes cake. also yes, you can use virtualbox to boot an ISO, or mount one from within Ubuntu by right clicking on it04:33
mikinanuqfrankcox777: is connect automatically checked?04:33
balltensorpudding: I'm not sure I can run that on this chip04:33
Artarianspikebike, everything did work smoothly for you after upgrading04:33
nathan1111<sebsebseb> hard to get used to for some reason, and I had my menus set up very well04:33
spikebikeArtarian: yes04:33
tensorpuddingball: you can04:33
frankcox777mikinanuq connect auto ic checked04:33
Artarianaaww04:33
carandraugball, wait. What? I only read the first line. please make your question in one line, you got me confused. Could you explain better?04:33
sebsebsebnathan1111: ok well do what I said then :)04:33
frankcox777is04:34
Artarianbad luck then04:34
truepurpleizinucs: A partition for linux, a partition for windows, a partition for VM for linux and windows perhaps, finally a main partition for "files"04:34
sebsebsebnathan1111: and you can set classic Desktop as default as well04:34
caseyDoes anyone know why my natty narwhale does not load from GRUB? Everytime I choose it, it just freezes trying to load. It only seems to work for me if I boot from a previous version :(. Any ideas?04:34
tensorpuddingball: though the chips with virtualization extensions allow you to get decent performance04:34
spikebikeArtarian: I've got a dual head setup, 24" + 20"04:34
Artarianspikebike, the module disappeared04:34
nathan1111sebsebseb: thanks (x04:34
ball...my objective is to install a new Linux install on a hard disk, to replace the existing one.04:34
Artarianhow can that be04:34
frankcox777mikinanuq MTU ato04:34
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sebsebsebnathan1111: ok your welcome :)04:34
frankcox777automatic04:34
mikinanuqfrankcox777: under IPv4 settings is Method: set to Automatic DHCP?04:34
truepurpleizinucs: May we please speak in PM so I can keep track of this conversation better?04:34
tensorpuddingball: you'll need to make a bootable external medium them04:34
spikebikeArtarian: I'd suggest reinstalling the driver from scratch04:34
NictraSaviosOh dangit! Forgot to call my gf about 35 minutes ago....04:34
izinucstruepurple: sure.. /msg me04:35
NictraSaviosUh... i g2g ..... yea... LOL.04:35
tensorpuddingball: you can't mess with the hard disk while you're in ubuntu04:35
frankcox777mikinanuq yes04:35
balltensorpudding: That'll mean cracking the case to temporarily attach an optical drive then.04:35
Artarianspikebike, i did purge nvidia-current package now im reinstalling it04:35
tensorpuddingball: not necessarily, you can make flash drives into bootable media04:35
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truepurpleizinucs: hmm, it doesn't seem to work04:35
Artariani will get back to you if it works spikebike04:35
frankcox777mikinanuqipv6 is set to ignore04:35
truepurpleizinucs: Please /msg me instead perhaps04:35
spikebikeArtarian: if that's a no go try downloading and installing the driver directly from nvidia.com04:36
nathan1111is chrome running on 11.04?04:36
spikebikenathan1111: the browser?04:36
nathan1111yes04:36
Captainkrteknathan1111,  yes04:36
torchiehuh04:36
CaptainkrtekIm using it now04:36
spikebikenathan1111: yes, I've got it open now04:36
torchiedidn't expect that to restart everything04:36
izinucstruepurple: i'm there.. are you?04:36
kinscan anyone help me mount an external cd/dvd drive04:36
torchiereminds me of osx windowserver04:36
mikinanuqfrankcox777: ok... hmm remind me, when you do the ifconfig does it show you the eth0 settings and the lo settings or no eth0 settings at all?04:36
sebsebsebnathan1111: sudo apt-get install chromium it's the open source version that Chrome is based on04:36
lduroshello, my boot gets stuck after "checking batteries", and if i log in through the command line, I cannot start x manually (sudo startx or sudo gdm) I get fatal server error: no screens found04:36
caseyDoes anyone know why my natty narwhale does not load from GRUB? Everytime I choose it, it just freezes trying to load. It only seems to work for me if I boot from a previous version :(. Any ideas?04:37
gtlaruewell, its not streaming in general, seems to just be the "movie player" program, Audacious can play audio without breaking it04:37
ldurosany idea what i can do? It's an old desktop and upgrade d to 11.0404:37
carandraugkins, just say what's the error when you try to connect it. If someone can help, they will04:37
balltensorpudding: This machine doesn't seem able to boot from USB.04:37
IdleOnenathan1111: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser04:37
ballI've tried flash and CD-ROM04:37
tensorpuddingball: well, sorry then04:37
nathan1111i  use the dev version of g chrome. what about that.04:37
sebsebsebnathan1111: chromium-browser even ah yes, ty IdleOne forgot about that,  chromium would install a game04:37
ldurosthere's a problem with the video card it seems, misconfiguration maybe?04:37
frankcox777mikinanuq eth1 only04:37
IdleOnesebsebseb: yup :)04:37
tensorpuddingball: the only other option would be PXE boot but that's not only a pain to install, but probably not supported from your hardware04:38
kinswhy does lucid not even read my external cd/dvd drive04:38
renderoplasma panel got crazy in natty kde, notification icon is moving in the panel at the left or right !04:39
mikinanuqfrankcox777: give me a sec04:39
frankcox777mikinanuq ok04:39
Artarianspikebike, it worked!04:39
LoonaticHi i got a LAMP server and i need to install an actual GUI i can i do this easily ?04:40
spikebikeArtarian: cool04:40
Artarianspikebike, i did purge the nvidia-current package and reinstalled but one more thing how do i set my gnome bar back?04:40
spikebikeapt-get install gnome-desktop or similar04:40
Artarianspikebike, this new bar not good04:40
spikebikeArtarian: try add user and login as them04:40
selekta|bitplane04:40
spikebikeoh you mean unity?04:40
bitplanehey selekta|04:40
nathan1111didn't oracle stop making OOo?04:40
mikinanuqfrankcox777: is it a laptop? does it have wireless and wired on the pc that's having problems?04:41
ballnathan1111: They released it into the wild04:41
spikebikenathan1111: there was a fork, now libre is not related to oracle04:41
caseyDoes anyone know why my natty narwhale does not load from GRUB? Everytime I choose it, it just freezes trying to load. It only seems to work for me if I boot from a previous version :(. Any ideas?04:41
ball...after the fact.04:41
armor-64hi guys a have a problem with the ubuntu and the ATI VGA,somehow when i installed the drivers for the GPU ,ubuntu startet to glitch ,i remove them becouse i hate to work on my pc like that,can i keep the default ubuntu drivers?04:41
gartrali have a laptop that has an *insane* battery.. it lasts about 9 hours. the indicator turns red.. at around 2:40 hours left.. how do i change that?04:41
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spikebikecasey: something screwed up, boot a recovery cd and reinstall grub04:41
spikebikeit's not a inate ubuntu issue04:41
caseyspikebike: Please explain further. How do I make a recovery cd? I installed narwhal from the update manager?04:42
frankcox777mikinanuq I am beginning to think it is the ethernet card or its driver-maybe I should try to boot the drive in another machine?04:42
Kevin147Hm, ever since I upgraded to 11.04, I play Minecraft, and now java is only using one core? I have a quad-core.. how do I make it even out? :/04:43
spikebikecasey: google linux recovery cd grugb04:43
spikebikegrub04:43
OY1R!grub04:43
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)04:43
Artarian11.04 totally sux04:43
fringe_bosscasey can be a windows dual boot issue, can be a APIC/ACPI issue04:43
mikinanuqfrankcox777: hmm well the thing is that ifconfig shows an interface eth1 so my guess is that there is a config that's setup for eth0 but not eth1 for some reason04:44
caseyfringe_boss: Well I do dual boot. Does that help any? Spike was saying to reinstall grub.04:44
OY1R!grub04:44
mikinanuqfrankcox777: it's not the drivers or the card in my opinion at least not at this point.. you see lights on the back where the card is plugged in right?04:44
fringe_bosscasey how many OSs?04:45
OY1Rsomeone put that grub link up04:45
elijahIs it possible to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit?04:45
frankcox777mikinanuq- I see them but not on the cable04:45
sebsebsebelijah: not without a clean install04:46
frankcox777mikinanuq-correction -that was just a reflection-no lights04:46
elijahsebsebseb: okay, could I copy the home folder?04:46
caseyfringe_boss: Just vista and now nawhal updating from meerkat.04:46
sebsebseb!home | elijah04:46
ubottuelijah: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome04:46
lduroshello, it seems i can't use unity, and it's using the auto-logging, is there a way I could revert to gnome classic from the command line? I suspect there's a configuration file for this no?04:47
spikebikelduros: select ubuntu-classic at the gdm login04:47
fringe_bosscasey by reinstalling GRUB you run the risk of loosing boot acces to the other OS. once I got involved in such problem - and its hardcore stuff04:47
Lagggescott: worked wonderfully :D04:47
escottLaggg, glad to here04:48
ldurosspikebike: I don't have the gdm-login, because it's logging in automatically04:48
LagggProps to escott! We've got the same name and he knows what he's talking about when it comes to linux!!04:48
ldurosit makes i'm stuck in the command line, no x-server04:48
caseyfringe_boss: Oh really? Thanks for telling me man. I was almost going to go down that path. Any ideas on what I should do? It's really annoying to boot from previous versions menu :(.04:48
mikinanuqfrankcox777: usually those light up if they have a good link so maybe it is the card. If you pull the drive and put it in another pc you may have trouble with drivers that are not installed or misconfigured unless you have a similar or identical spare box04:48
fringe_bosscasey I heard about another boot manager people are using, but dont remember its name. take a look at freshmeat - good luck04:48
spikebikelduros: create a second user I suspect then it won't autologin04:48
blognewbhi guys is there a nice task mgr for ubuntu?04:49
escottlduros, /etc/grub/custom.conf04:49
escottlduros, remove it04:49
sebsebsebfringe_boss: casey  Grub and LILO, but hardly anyone uses LILO anymore04:49
frankcox777mikinanuq-Usually ubuntu finds the drivers if there is a connection-maybe that is my problem here-no connection, no ethernet driver04:49
ldurosescott: let me try this thanks04:49
blognewbkinda like coHuman but now im scared of it because the data is kept in their servers04:49
caseyfringe_boss: freshmeat? Really lol? Is that whats it's called?04:49
ldurosspikebike: i'll try making a second user if the custom.conf doesn't work04:49
Kreative`blognewb, System -> Preferences -> Adminstration -> System Monitor?04:50
fringe_bosssebsebseb theres another one04:50
caseysebsebseb: Are you not advising LILO then?04:50
sebikulHi to everyone!. When upgrading to natty today (having already installed all drivers, etc.),  after the plymouth screen disappears , I am left with a screen with the nvidia logo, the PC is locked there,  it doesn't load any further, and I must restart by pressing Alt + Sys + B. I have a video card Nvidia GForce GT220 PCI  and onboard Geforce 6150 LE, but not being used. The only thing I could get from the logs is this  (http://paste.ubuntu.04:50
blognewbKreative` i meant task manager software04:50
sebikulNote that this only happens when using the proprietary driver. When using nouveau I can use ubuntu without a problem, same as when using a failsafe boot04:50
sebsebsebcasey: indeed,  hardly any distro's do LILO by default anymore, which also means hardly anyone knows LILO04:50
blognewbhi guys is there a nice task mgr software for ubuntu? for managing job tasks04:50
Kreative`What do you mean, job tasks?04:50
sebsebsebcasey: some distro's still using the old nice old version of Grub, but later versions of Ubuntu that Grub 2 thing hmm04:50
frankcox777mikinanuq -Wont take long to find out04:50
Name141Is there any real reason not to download and use the 64bit Ubuntu on a 4GB RAM system ?04:50
sebsebseb!grub2 | casey04:50
ubottucasey: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)04:50
blognewbKreative` personal tasks04:51
caseysebsebseb: Are you aware of my problem? Basically I am having trouble booting narwhal after the update I did. It seems to freeze and be stuck in an ubuntu loading menu :(.04:51
Kreative`Ah..04:51
carandraugName141, if your system is not 64-bit04:51
mikinanuqfrankcox777: yeah, check it out won't take long04:51
sebsebsebcasey: no, but i t just be an upgrade that went wrong04:51
Name141carandraug: I suppose it is, it's an Athlon II X404:51
sebsebsebcarandraug: ,but it could just be an upgrad that went wrong04:51
sebsebsebcasey: ^04:51
bizerklurkerCan someone tell me why my launcher icons revert to default upon login?04:51
bizerklurkerI'm using Unity04:51
caseysebsebseb: So how do I make an upgrade go wrong turned right?04:51
sebsebsebcasey: if you can't  boot up 11.04 after upgrading to it, maybe recovery mode from the boot loader can help some how, or just clean install04:52
escottlduros, you may need to restart the gdm service04:52
bizerklurkerLauncher Icons Revert to Default Upon Login04:52
caseysebsebseb: dang. I was hoping not to do that. It sounds a little messy.04:52
carandraugName141, I know on the old times, some software had problems on 64-bit. Specially flash player. I don't think this old true anymore but all my machines are still 32-bit04:52
sebsebsebcasey: well when it comes to re installing Linux distro's haveing a seperate /home really does help useually :)04:53
ldurosescott: It doesn't seem to have done the trick though, x-server still finds no screen04:53
ballWell I'd best break out the screwdrivers then.04:53
fringe_bosscasey sebsebseb theres another boot manager around, about wich I heard good reviews04:53
sebsebsebcasey: however in the case of Ubuntu,  I have always set that up on the install of Ubuntu, never afterwoulds, which is also possible04:53
ldurosescott: I'm wondering if there's a config file for this that's preventing me to get the graphic interface04:53
spyzerhello everyone, when id lsmod i find that "radeon" is loaded as a module BUT do i also need to specify that in xorg.conf ???04:53
caseysebsebseb: I believe I did do that from reading a tutorial but I don't know what it xactly means. Is there anyway I can check?04:53
sebsebsebfringe_boss: oh BLURG?04:53
spyzerplease tell04:53
spyzercurrently there is no xorg.conf04:53
Name141carandraug: Will the 64bit still have the 'make a startup drive' option for a USB stick ?04:54
casey*exactly04:54
carandraugName141, like I said, I don't know because i never used the 64-bit. But I'd have to guess I'd say yes04:54
sebsebsebfringe_boss: there's one based on Grub 2,  that omgubuntu go on about sometimes,  Blurg I think04:54
mikinanuqcasey: I had a similar problem because of nvidia drivers.. would stay at the pink ubuntu screen and never get to the login.. do you have nvidia?04:54
fringe_bossspyzer dunno - doesnt sounds like04:54
caseysebsebseb: Is blurg bad or something lol?04:54
sebsebsebcasey: Blurg isn't reallyf or newbies, it's a new project, based on Grub 2,  so people can theme Grub better and such04:54
caseymikinauq: I sure do lol. Any solution?04:54
Name141carandraug: I guess I'd only lose a CD and some bandwidth if it doesn't.04:55
sebsebsebcasey: and things can mess up if you do it wrong or whatever04:55
Name141carandraug: while I wait on the 32bit to download..04:55
sebsebsebcasey: stick with Grub04:55
sebsebsebcasey: other boot loaders are quite pointless useualy now days04:55
caseysebsebseb: yeah well i'm a newbie, so i'll trust you with that.04:55
frankcox777mikinanuq-have to use this machine-brb04:55
mikinanuqcasey: I had to boot in to recovery mode root with network.. then apt-get install linux-generic-headers  or  apt-get install linux-headers-generic04:55
codex84i have ubuntu 10.10 just upgrade to 11.04 after done installation and restart doesnt nuttin but my background04:56
codex84?04:56
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carandraugcasey, I subscribe sebsebseb opinion. Stick with GRUB04:56
codex84doesn't show nuttin**04:56
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caseymikinanuq: So that worked for you?04:56
SporkI'm having a problem with 11.04, I just upgraded04:56
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shmupsomeone helped me with this a while ago and i completely forget what i did. just set up lamp & phpmyadmin. when i try accessing localhost/phpmyadmin, it downloads a file.04:57
mikinanuqcasey: yeah, I read it in a bugreport.04:57
shmupi cannot remember the fix ;x04:57
rahdukejust upgrade to 11.04, graphics drivers not working, nouveau driver doesn't kick in and im left with a terminal. I had custom Nvidia drivers installed prior to upgrade, trying to install the new nvidia drivers off their site (which apparently work) but the installer says I need to disable Noveau in X config.... how do i do that04:57
caseymikinanuq: Awesome. Thanks for the help. I'm going to try that for sure.04:57
amy_just curious, but are all the *BSD channels normally invite only?04:58
shmuper this wasnt an ubuntu question heh sorry04:58
carandraug!phpmyadmin | shmup04:58
Guest80758In my new 11.04 upgrade, my mouse keeps not responding to clicks04:58
codex84i have trouble too show nuttin but my desktop04:58
RoastedHow can I turn off the tap-to-select on my touchpad in ubuntu?04:58
ldurosrahduke: exactly the same problem for me. if i try sudo startx, i get fatal error: no screens found. do you have the same problem?04:58
codex84background04:58
mikinanuqcasey: no prob hope it helps04:58
bizerklurker_Can someone please help me I've been lost for hours... why do my launcher icons revert to default upon every login? :(04:58
bizerklurker_Can someone please help me I've been lost for hours... why do my launcher icons revert to default upon every login? :(04:58
rahdukei havent tried that04:58
rabbit_mikinanuq-I bridged the drive to my other machine and an using that hard drive to talk to you now04:59
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katsrctrying to compile and getting this error: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" anyone have an idea what it could be?04:59
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: You can try and reset your profile but it's kind of extreme and a little bit of work. at least it will fix the problem for sure04:59
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SpockSporkSo does anyone know why the mouse won't respond to clicks in 11.04?04:59
spikebikekatsrc: try to compile hello_world.c04:59
mikinanuqrabbit_: ok05:00
bizerklurker_mikinanuq Hmm... I am a beginner.. do you really think I should?05:00
truemani have black screen of death, tried nomodeset and installed... but what to do next? i have low resolution (640x480). It's bad=(05:00
dijonyummyis there a good way to install apps via script via apt-get or synaptic or aptitude, but still get the icons in gnome panel?05:00
spikebikedijonyummy: apt-get does that05:00
frankcox777mikinanuq-apparently you were right- it is working on the other drive but know says eth005:00
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: I had to do it today after the upgrade :( ...05:00
carandraugdijonyummy, you still get the icons on the panel if you install with aptitude05:01
mikinanuqfrankcox777: cool.. so it is the NIC on that other pc05:01
frankcox777mikinanuq-any idea how to fix it?05:01
bizerklurker_mikinanuq how do I even go about doing it?05:01
codex84problem with 11.04 is not showing nothing but my background05:01
frankcox777not sure-on this one it says eth0 instead of eth105:01
codex84just upgraded ittt05:01
frankcox777mikinanuq>not sure-on this one it says eth0 instead of eth105:01
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: go in to a command prompt and reset your root password first because you need to log in as root to do it.05:02
truemanblack screen of death...05:02
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: do a  "sudo su" put in your password05:02
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: now you are in as root...  type passwd <ENTER> and set the root password05:03
frankcox777mikinanuq- Wonder if I delete eth1 on other machine and reboot if it will start working?05:03
pp7how do u change the background color of the top unity panel?05:03
mikinanuqfrankcox777: hmm usually that's just automatic05:03
linuxreally05:03
bizerklurker_mikinanuq I'm getting lots of output -.- ......05:03
bizerklurker_errr05:03
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: sudo su   should not give you lots of output05:04
frankcox777mikinanuq-ok - I guess the next move is to put in a pci ethernet card and disconnect the one on the mainboard05:04
TrentonAdamscarandraug: I already tried ubuntu-classic.  The menu/task bars look really good until suddenly they change to the old style MS windows look with really stand out buttons05:04
keithclarkwhat is the irc channel for ubuntu just general discussion?05:05
bizerklurker_mikinanuq "Authentication token manipulation error"05:05
frankcox777mikinanuq -Thanks for all your time05:05
TrentonAdamscarandraug: this happens during login, something must be messing something up, but I'm not sure what.05:05
mikinanuqfrankcox777: true that may eliminate the onboard NIC issue.. you should disable the NIC in the BIOS for the onboard if you're putting in a PCI one05:05
SpockSporkCan anyone point me to the right channel for 11.04 help, or answer my question?05:05
mikinanuqfrankcox777: no prob05:05
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: give me a sec.. gotta put the kids to bed05:05
bizerklurker_mikinanuq nvm it worked05:05
bizerklurker_mikinanuq oh wow I'm sorry you go ahead05:05
balleyneupgrade to 11.04, when I open Firefox I can't seem to access any of the Unity stuff (no global menu, BFB, launcher items... have to switch workspaces to see any of that. and super doesn't bring up the dashboard...). Thoughts?05:06
carandraugTrentonAdams, sorry, at this hour (5am here) I can't think of what may be wrong05:06
linuxWhat is Ubuntu.05:07
truemanblack screen of death... Who solved this problem on 11.04 with nvidia cards, please help05:07
TrentonAdamscarandraug: you NUT, go to bed.05:07
keithclarkI found it, thanks05:08
carandraugTrentonAdams, I will soon. But still have work to do05:08
codex84i upgraded too 11.04 is not showing nothing but my background wallpaper05:08
tortoiseHey guys. I've been faced with this issue for quite awhile, and have googled and researched and googled and researched and have yet to find a solution. I'm using 10.04, and firefox and when I attempt to load pages with hyphens at the end or the beginning of the URL, the page won't load. It does the same thing in Chrome. Even after all of the googling I have done, I still don't have a clue how to fix this, so I'm hoping someone05:08
TrentonAdamscarandraug: The funny thing about it, is that my actual windows, all of them, have the proper theme, just the menu and task bars don't.05:08
tortoisehere could give me some direction?05:08
spikebikeballeyne: create a new user and login as that user05:08
truemanBackground wallpaper =) I see only black screen on my screen...05:09
carandraugTrentonAdams, try "metacity --replace"05:09
TrentonAdamscarandraug: I get Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "begin_move"05:09
SpockSporkI'm having a problem where my mouse refuses to click on anything,05:09
TrentonAdamscarandraug: from the console05:09
SpockSpork11.0405:09
spikebiketortoise: give an example url05:10
rgrSpockSpork: left? right? both? middle button?05:10
truemanblack screen is the most difficult problem, only few men have solved it05:10
carandraugTrentonAdams, did you try to change the theme on appearance preference window?05:10
SpockSporksometimes one, somtimes both05:10
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: ok so if you reset the root password you'll have to do the following but you need to reboot to do it... write the next steps down05:10
tortoisespikebike: http://novemberblue-.tumblr.com05:10
SpockSporkit's acting very finnicky05:10
codex84i upgraded to 11.04 nothing is showing05:11
balleynespikebike: and that will fix my current user's settings? I can see Unity stuff, until I open Firefox or focus on Firefox...05:11
codex84but my background wallpaper05:11
rgryes, my crystal can see that...05:11
codex84?05:11
bizerklurker_mikinanuq will do05:11
armor-64hi guys i need help,i have problem with the ATI VGA(drivers)can i keep the default Ubuntu drivers instead05:11
tortoisespikebike: I've also tried excluding the http bit, as well as with and without the w's but it doesn't make a difference05:11
canthus13codex84: try classic ubuntu.05:11
linuxl see.05:11
codex84i cant05:11
codex84doesnt show the menu bar05:11
truemanI have a black screen after installed nvidia 270xxx drivers.. What to do?05:11
codex84or nothiing05:11
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: reboot, when you're at the login screen press ctrl+alt+f1 ... that takes you in to a console/command window. log in with root.05:11
rgrcodex84: select it from the login dialog or?05:11
canthus13codex84: switch to a terminal, reboot from the command line, and then change to classic ubuntu before logging in.05:12
mikinanuqbizerklurker_:  do a  "cd /home"05:12
balleynespikebike: ah, nm; restarting Firefox did the trick...05:12
kjxl9hello05:12
codex84it doesnl;t even show a login box or nuttin05:12
codex84lol05:12
renegaidubuntu seems to get slower and slower with every release05:12
rgrhopefully you didnt upgrade. You would be mad to trust a Ubuntu upgrade.05:12
canthus13codex84: Eh? GDM isn't even starting? Ugh-oh.05:12
spikebikerenegaid: 11.04 feels like 10.10 to me05:13
kz3should i upgrade to 11.04 or not?05:13
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: then  "mv your_folder your_folder.old" .. that renames your old profile folder but doesn't delete it. You can get your documents and other stuff back from it05:13
rgrcanthus13: if he can see his wallpaper then gdm has started.05:13
canthus13kz3: I wouldn't.05:13
codex84yeaa nothingg05:13
codex84yoo05:13
spikebikekz3: IMO the default default 11.04 is much lik egoing from linux to osx05:13
canthus13rgr: Well, not completely from the sounds of it...05:13
rgrcodex84: have you restarted?05:13
selekta|the installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions05:13
codex84not even alt f105:13
kz3canthus13: why?05:13
spikebikekz3: so if you don't want a big change don't upgrade05:13
codex84yea mad timess05:13
selekta|Do I want to unmount the disks before continuing?05:13
canthus13kz3: Give it a week or two.05:13
truemanEvery release i see only black screen =) What is Ubuntu??05:13
rgryou mean C-alt-f1?05:13
selekta|Im installing 11.0405:13
codex84and even shutdownn05:13
lduroscanthus13 codex84: i have the same problem, if i try sudo startx I get no screens found05:13
canthus13kz3: It's pretty hairy so far.05:13
linux9.1005:14
rgrIts ludicrous to release such buggy crap on poor users regardless of state.05:14
canthus13linux: 9.10 is EOL.05:14
mrdebxshould you upgrad from lts to 1104?05:14
lduroscanthus13 codex84: i was able to load in failsafe mode, then low graphics, it was ubuntu classic, reverted to ubuntu classic but it didn't do the trick. ... damn05:14
codex84yea nothing work05:14
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: after you move it you have to create a new folder for your profile with   "mkdir your_folder" ... now give yourself permissions to it by "chown yourlogin:yourlogin your_folder" all three will be the same essentially..05:14
codex84no menu nothing not even c-alt f105:14
codex84doesnt work eitherr05:14
kjxl911.04 is my first linux os05:14
dxdemetriouupgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 I have the error "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process"05:14
linuxYes, I do.05:14
kz3so i should stick with 10.10?05:14
truemanBlack screen... help05:14
* spikebike shrugs, I've done a 11.04 nvidia install, ati install, and a server install05:14
spikebikeworks for me05:14
ChrisroHello when doing a usb boot whats this mean 'unknown keyword in configuration file:appe'05:14
rgrcodex84: sounds like your system is hosed. But you DO see your wallpaper indicating the video works,05:15
Julie972hi05:15
mrdebspikebike: is 1104 beter than 109405:15
Julie972is there smone still awake ?05:15
linuxneed help.j05:15
canthus13lduros: I got Classic working, but it's ugly... and enabling compiz brings on other issues, like missing window decorations (which can be enabled in ccsm.. but that has to be installed)05:15
Julie972need help too :(05:15
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: now you can exit out of the console and press alt+f7 to get back to the login screen. log in and if you did everything correctly you'll have a new profile like it was when you first installed ubuntu05:15
codex84yea i could see wallpaper05:15
Braiam!ash | Julie97205:15
codex84and change it05:15
lduroscanthus13: i'm just stuck in the terminal forever :-)05:15
codex84thats it05:15
Braiam!ask | Julie97205:15
ubottuJulie972: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)05:15
rgrand change it?!?! How do you change it if "nothing works"?05:15
Julie972poor noob girl stuck with upgrade from 10 to 11.04 :(05:15
dxdemetriouif upgrade does not complete can I re-run the cleaning process?05:15
canthus13lduros: Not so bad... I do everything but web browsing from the command line. :)05:16
rgrJulie972: you're not a girl.05:16
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: did you get all that?05:16
Julie972yap i am :)05:16
lduroscanthus13: yeh except this computer is my wife's and she doesn't do command line05:16
lduros:-)05:16
codex84im on my other pc at homeee05:16
Julie972a french one05:16
tasehey ubuntu im trying to install drivers for Broadcom wifi chip, but the install script isnt working , says its not a supported card, but the PCI_ID is supported, model is supported, etc...05:16
soreauJulie972: What happened?05:16
Julie972lol05:16
bizerklurker_bizerklurker_ how can I retrieve my files and I do not literally tyles my_folder right?05:16
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canthus13lduros: Heh. That's why my wife is using Lucid. :)05:16
rgrso what? Expect special treatmenmt? ;) my bet is a fat buy in the celler...05:16
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kz3so it means I shouldnt upgrade to 11.04?05:16
truemanPlease help motherfuckers=)05:16
soreau! language | trueman05:16
Atharvahow to start desktop cube and wobbly windows in natty ?05:16
ubottutrueman: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.05:16
Julie972i did launch (sorry bad english) upgrade from 10.0405:16
kz3trueman: this is not the way to speak here05:17
rgrkz3: read this channel. If you upgrade to 11-04 you're nuts.05:17
bizerklurker_mikinanuq how can I retrieve my files and I do not literally tyles my_folder right?05:17
soreau! ccsm | Atharva05:17
ubottuAtharva: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz05:17
Julie972reboot05:17
mrdebshould we upgrade to 1104 or not05:17
Julie972un says cannt mount05:17
Julie972i did sudo mountall05:17
mrdebyes or no right now answre pls05:17
canthus13Atharva: switch to classic, install ccsm, enable them.. and don't forget to enable window decorations.05:17
bizerklurker_mikinanuq yes I got it05:17
Julie972stuck without mouth05:17
truemani am sorry05:17
codex84dont upgradee lol05:17
tanathcan anyone help me track down what package to file a bug report on?05:17
rgr"sudo mountall"!?05:17
mrdebcodex84: wy not05:17
bizerklurker_mikinanuq stupid question I just never really dabble with this stuff :p05:17
codex84im having problems with my05:18
Julie972yep rgr05:18
codex84is froze on my background05:18
Artariani hate so much 11.04 version05:18
codex84cant do nothinggg05:18
tanathmy mouse wheel has limited ability to scroll up. it's a regression05:18
codex84i have to fresh instaLL  ubuntu 10.10 again05:18
Julie972no i cant od anythong on the login screen05:18
mrdebcodex84: qwhy05:18
Artarianjesus05:18
celthundertanath: what packages is buggy05:18
Artarianthats the worst version of ubuntu ever05:18
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: to retrieve your files you go to /home and you will see your_folder.old in there. you can copy/paste from it the documents you need05:18
tanathcelthunder, exactly05:18
truemanGuys, what to do with black screen, after installed nvidia drivers...05:18
tanathcelthunder, (see my first comment)05:18
rgrlol, I didnt expect it to be this bad a release. Wow. The support forums are totally overrun. Why oh why do they release such crap on a fixed date rather than a properly tested stable base? Silly.05:18
KXTwonatty came out today?05:18
celthundertanath: ok i just got here let me scroll up05:19
Julie972so i shloud go back to 10.10 ?05:19
mrdebwha is the isue05:19
bizerklurker_mikinanuq okay. will try it. thank you (:05:19
mrdebno05:19
Artarianhow do i roll back to 10.10?05:19
Julie972but how ?05:19
rahdukeYUP NO SCREENS FOUND WHEN TRYING STARTX05:19
spikebikehey05:19
KXTwowhy would you want to roll back?05:19
spikebikeoneone have a fix for URLs opening firefox instead of chrome?05:19
Julie972co we cant go forward05:19
spikebikeanyone rather05:19
codex84alot of people are having problems with05:19
codex8411.0405:19
codex84like iam05:19
Artarianguys can anyone help after startx no screen found issue i did purge and reinstalled nvidia-current but this driver work so bad at 11.0405:19
tanathcelthunder, @ minute 1805:20
Artariancodex84, this is so shi***05:20
KXTwoso im not going to upgrade then05:20
truemanrahduke, i have same problem05:20
KXTwoif people are having problems with 11.0405:20
bp0you can't roll back but you can backup your /home folder and reinstall 10.04 or 10.0105:20
rahdukehow can i install the new nvidia drivers? my graphics are effd05:20
bp010.1005:20
codex84i knoww05:20
bp0KXTwo, don't.05:20
SpockSporkI'd like to reinstall 10.1005:20
rahdukesomehow have to disable nouveau but im lost05:20
SpockSpork11.04 is still buggy as hell05:20
rahduketrueman:05:20
Artarianits shitty05:20
cooladminHi05:20
rahduketrueman: hyea this suks05:20
codex84yeaaaa05:20
codex84sucks b allss05:20
macoJulie972: hey by the way, are you aware of the existence of the Ubuntu Women Project? its aim is to help women get more involved in Ubuntu05:20
truemandownload from nvidia,com05:20
RoastedHow can I turn off the tap-to-select on my touchpad in ubuntu?05:20
mikinanuqbizerklurker_: ok, good luck.. BTW when you have a good profile... you can backup your   /home/your_folder  to /home/your_folder.backup ... then if you mess anything up you can revert back to a good backup05:20
codex84ballss05:20
FloodBot1codex84: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:20
mikinanuqbizerklurker: makes sense?05:21
macoJulie972: http://women.ubuntu.com05:21
IdleOne!language | Artarian05:21
ubottuArtarian: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.05:21
mrdebshould we install 1104 now05:21
ArtarianIdleOne, thanks for the help bro05:21
rahdukei knew this wasnt going to go smoothly, bad omen for 11.04 and unity05:21
bp0mrdeb, no.05:21
codex84lol05:21
truemanrahduke, go to nvidia.com and download drivers05:21
armor-64hi guys i need help,i have problem with the ATI VGA(drivers)can i keep the default Ubuntu drivers instead05:21
mrdebbp0: why05:21
rcconfMaverick is not reading a DVD+R Dual Layer which plays perfectly fine in DVD player05:22
codex84bye natty see  u in saint patty05:22
codex84lmaoo05:22
KXTwoive never heard of ubuntu having this much problems with new releases05:22
TrentonAdamscarandraug: Sorry if I didn't see your message.  I ran the metacity thing then Ctrl-C it, and nothing worked, big surprise. :P05:22
rcconfI used "seamless" option when I burned it05:22
ArtarianKXTwo, this is the worst ubuntu version ever05:22
bp0mrdeb, many bugs, and slow05:22
codex84maybe some crappy developer05:22
codex84messed it up lol05:22
mrdebbp0: ok05:22
KXTwothey will fix it within a couple of weeks05:22
Julie972ok I'm a woman but not such noob like some man :)05:22
KXTwoI would imagine05:22
tanathKXTwo, big changes. short-term step backwards for long term gain05:22
truemanrahduke, after press ctrl+alt+f1 type sudo -sh NVIDIAxxxx.run05:23
Julie972working in education05:23
KXTwoarent they changing the gui too?05:23
Julie972tring to spread unbuntu05:23
rahduketrueman: i have, been trying to install them for a half hour, the installer says nouveau kernel driver running, need to disable it in some modprobe place and in x conf, did that. no go05:23
Julie972stuck in 11.04 upgrade :(05:23
nzashadowwhere can I go to get help with the terminal05:23
rahdukeits borked05:23
mikinanuqKXTwo: I think it's just the Unity stuff that's throwing people for a loop.. learning curve. It's like everyone going from XP to 7.. everyone hates it because the interface is so different from the previous05:23
bp0rahduke, are you using the nvidia installer or "additional drivers"?05:23
KXTwoI wouldnt upgrade I'd do a fresh install05:23
truemanrahduke, oh i see! try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop05:23
celthundertanath: ok is it a physical mouse or a touchpad05:23
spikebikemikinanuq: agreed, kinda like going form linux -> osx05:23
rahduketried the nvidia installer and additional drivers....05:23
truemanrahduke, after try to install again05:24
tanathcelthunder, optical mouse05:24
Cairo|MacI upgraded to Ubuntu 11.0405:24
carandraugTrentonAdams, I don't know. Sorry. I'm going away now. Need some sleep05:24
rahduketrueman: im not having a problem running the installer, its having an issue with nouveau05:24
mrdebCairo|Mac: work good?05:24
celthundertanath: do you have an Xorg configuratioj05:24
spikebikenouveau = broken05:24
amy_I havent been entirely fond of the 11.04 upgrade, myself. My flash player is a bit glitchy, but still workable, other than that, I just needed to reset my sound stuff and set classic login again.05:24
tanathcelthunder, used to work fine, then about a month ago i think, it started eating up scrolls after a few05:24
_pg_can someone help me calibrate my controller with dead zones using jscal?05:24
rahdukeive installed nvidia drivers from their site a hundred times over05:24
Cairo|Macbut samba4 had a problem installing so now when i turn my computer on i just get black and white stuff05:24
spikebikeamy_: heh, I've actually had MUCH better luck with the 11.04 flash05:24
Cairo|Macmrdeb ^^05:24
spikebikeeven if I had 10 tabs open with youtube videos they all behave themselves, unlike 10.10's05:24
bp0amy_, use firefox? there is a firefox extension called flash-aid or something like that, that will get you the best flash support possible05:25
amy_spikebike, my 10.10 was -perfect- with Flash, for some reason 11.04 messed with that a bit.05:25
bp0dont use the packages05:25
amy_bp0, yeah05:25
tanathcelthunder, haven't checked since i reinstalled 10.10 when it was new... so whatever is default05:25
spikebikeamy_: sucks05:25
rahduke _pg_ that is a pain in the ass05:25
HealingDruidcan someone upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10, i'm having the pkgProblemResolve issue05:25
_pg_rahduke, youre tellin me!05:25
rahdukeespecially if you have an old controller that is worn out05:25
spikebikeamy_: I'm using 11.04 with chome + flash, maybe thats the difference05:25
amy_bp0,  thanks, i'll actually give that a go.05:25
rahdukeits never going to set correctly05:25
truemanrahduke, that's a problem... For example i've got black screen after installed newest drivers05:25
rahdukeu need brand new sticks, and even then its iffy05:25
_pg_rahduke, i have calibrated a hundred times over, but i cant figure out the dead zones. and it keeps messing with my trackpad so i need to unplug in cause the input goes crazy05:26
rahduketrueman: i cant even get thru my install05:26
mikinanuqHealingDruid: I'd reinstall... upgrades usually never go well IMHO...05:26
Lesterwoodgod05:26
html_inprogresshow do i set up sharing to windows on a ubuntu  machine05:26
Lesterwoodthis 11.04 upgrade is taking forever05:26
tanathcelthunder, /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists...05:26
rahduke_pg_: you need brand a brandnew controller, the sticks are loose and jscal is too sensitive05:26
_pg_html_inprogress, install samba05:26
nzashadowE: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 61 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list05:26
aaron_waynebitplane, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601131/05:26
rahdukeand even then its weak05:26
nzashadowcan anyone help?05:26
_pg_rahduke, thats why i want to map some deadzones05:26
HealingDruidhmm...any solutions that are not so drastic though?05:27
rahdukethey wont be any good on an old controller05:27
trueman05:27
trueman_pg_, have you tried acpi_osi=Linux in grub... it can helps with touchpad i think05:27
tortoisedoes this page load for you guys? http://novemberblue-.tumblr.com05:27
rahdukeare u talking baout xbox360 controller?05:27
_pg_trueman, ?05:27
tanathnzashadow, sudo doesn't belong in your sources.list. it's not a script05:27
_pg_rahduke, yes05:27
celthundertanath: ok can you check /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ see if you have a config there thats limiting your scrolling05:27
nzashadowhow do I fix this?05:27
celthundertanath: that's where synaptics allows you to limit that stuff anyway05:27
rahduke_pg_: yea man its never going to be "right"05:28
mikinanuqHealingDruid: I'd say try the upgrade but be prepared to reinstall..05:28
trueman_pg_, have tou tried this parametr in grub on load?05:28
rahdukei messed with jscal for HOURS05:28
armor-64does evrybody have problem with the ATI drivers in ubuntu 11.04?05:28
rahdukeand never got it perfect05:28
teknowillhtml_inprogress: its a bit complezx05:28
tanathcelthunder, don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/05:28
_pg_rahduke, you can map deadzones, i just cant figure it out05:28
HealingDruidmikinanuq, i started the upgrade but it keeps failign05:28
_pg_trueman, i dont think were on the same page sir05:28
tanathcelthunder, isn't synaptics for touch pads?05:28
mikinanuqHealingDruid: on ubuntu there are instructions on upgrade. you just have to change the settings in the package manager to see the upgrade and do a "check" then upgrade05:28
rahduke_pg_: your not hearing me, even if u do map them they are not good enough05:28
celthundertanath: yeah but doesn't hurt to check if they used the same config location (and other stuff goes in that dir too)05:29
_pg_rahduke, then map them larger? i mean thats the whole point of deadzones05:29
celthundertanath: ok do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf05:29
teknowillhtml_inprogress: you need samba, or you can use ssh and sftp, do you need a drive letter or just get/put to folders?05:29
tanathcelthunder, that's what i said...05:29
tanathcelthunder, just the file. nothing else of similar name05:30
Julie972ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.05:30
mikinanuqHealingDruid: oh, didn't know that. you may be able to recover from it somehow but at that point would you want to??05:30
celthundertanath: ok can you pastebin your xorg.conf then05:30
krakpothi, i'm having an odd issue, just upgraded ubuntu server from 10.10 -> 11.04, and after the loading screen I just see blinking cursor.  I have to press ALT+F1 or ALT+F2 to get my login screen... anyone else see this?05:30
Julie9726.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.2205:30
Cairo|MacI upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04 but samba4 had a problem updating so now when i turn my computer on i just get black and white stuff05:30
Cairo|Macanyone know how to fix that/05:30
Cairo|Mac*?05:30
amy_bp0, yup, after doing a test/execute with flash-aid, worked like a charm again. Thanks for the tip :)05:31
aaron_waynedoes anyone know how to fix grub with super_grub_disk?05:31
tanathcelthunder, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601133/05:31
mikinanuqHealingDruid: I wouldn't want to continue with a half upgraded system that got botched.. you should still be able to recover your files with an install CD by running ubunt off the cd05:31
Julie972ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.6.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.22). I cant do anything next (S or m) when I choose m and try sudo mountall, I get stucked. What should I do ? thks05:31
tanathcelthunder, ignore the date thing on the right. that's from my terminal prompt05:31
celthunderCairo|Mac: unless you're WM is on the samba drive it has nothing to do with samba that you're getting dropped to terminal05:31
celthundertanath: ok np05:31
aaron_waynehttp://paste.ubuntu.com/601131/05:31
HealingDruidmikinanuq, that's true05:31
Cairo|Maccelthunder: im not even being dropped to terminal05:31
amy_is there any Ubuntu installations that exclude X/graphical stuff?05:32
Cairo|Macits just random white and black stuff05:32
spikebikeamy_: ubuntu-server05:32
Cairo|Macif it was terminal i would be fine05:32
GuyCanadahey guys, updates to 11.04 and now my function-F8 wont work to put up my hdmi. anyone know how to fix this05:32
pfifo!alternate | amy_05:32
ubottuamy_: The Alternate CD is a classic text-mode install CD. It supports a wider range of hardware than the !LiveCD, and can also be used as an upgrade CD. http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download#alternate - See also !minimal05:32
Geethello05:32
_pg_amy_, server, minimial05:32
celthunderCairo|Mac: then swifch to a terminal and fix you video drivers05:32
tanathcelthunder, i don't think ubuntu makes much use of xorg.conf anymore05:32
Julie972is the alternate cd bootable ?05:32
rahduke_pg_: as you use the remote the sticks get loose and the deadspots kinda move around05:32
rahdukeso old controllers really dont work well05:32
pfifoJulie972, yes05:32
Cairo|Maccelthunder: how do i get to a terminal?05:32
Geetcan anybody recommend me better linux for laptops05:33
Geet?05:33
Julie972cos It doesntboot by me :(05:33
celthunderalt f1 / f205:33
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celthunderGeet: thats preference i prefer arch to anything else but others will give you different answers05:33
_pg_rahduke, so i will map them huge lol it doesnt matter once i can map some deadzones ill figure it out from there05:33
celthunderCairo|Mac: alt f1 f2 f3 etc05:33
mikinanuqGuyCanada: hmm check the keyboard maps, you may have a generic default set.. if you get one close to your laptop it may work.05:33
Cairo|Maccelthunder: thats it thanks05:33
root_JockerDebian05:33
tanathCairo|Mac, in what context? ctrl+alt+t in X, or ctrl+alt+f1 etc if not05:33
rahduke_pg_: ok go for it!05:34
pfifoGeet, linu and laptops have never gotten along very well, if you leave ubuntu expect to gain an intimate knowledge of your hardware and the software that runs that hardware.05:34
mikinanuqGeet: is it an old laptop?05:34
Geetno05:34
GuyCanadamikinanuq: where do i find that? it worked before the update why would it change05:34
[thor]geh... lack of nvidia drivers in 11.04 is killing me05:35
Geetjust one year old...and I m having issues like less battery backup...heat ...fan noise with ubuntu05:35
spikebike[thor]: works for me05:35
GuyCanadaoh perhaps its the lack of nvidia driver thats killing my hdmi out?05:35
amy_could I do a net install for server/minimal instead of using a burned CD?05:35
bizerklurkermikinanuq er... I can't log in with root...05:35
_pg_hes not on board05:35
bizerklurkermikinanuq after ctrl alt f105:35
GuyCanadagreet: that sounds liek hardware problems not software05:35
amy_Im thinking I'll swap my FreeBSD machine to Ubuntu server or minimal.05:35
tanathspikebike, out of curiosity, what card?05:36
bp0amy_, you might also like caffeine, a little applet thing that disables the screensaver while flash video is playing...  https://launchpad.net/caffeine05:36
mikinanuqGuyCanada: keyboard>layout>keyboard model05:36
spikebiketanath: 8600gt I believe05:36
GuyCanadamikinanuq: thanks05:36
amy_bp0, also a good idea. I was considering disabling my screensaver altogether.05:36
Julie972ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.6.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.22). I cant do anything next (S or m) when I choose m and try sudo mountall, I get stucked. What should I do ? thks05:36
spikebikenVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT]05:36
bizerklurkermikinanuq I already created a new unix password05:36
[thor]spikebike: i have 270.41.03 working correctly in 10.10, but i see no drivers listed in 11.0405:36
extraclassicamy_: ubuntu server will install pretty fast with a usb stick05:36
ZykoticK9spikebike, i didn't think it was possible to use proprietary Nvidia with 11.0405:37
bizerklurkermikinanuq I don't know why I can't log in as root05:37
bp0amy_, netinstall is not a very good idea right now, wait a few days maybe... the repos are very slow05:37
celthundertanath: add an entry for your mouse05:37
mikinanuqbizerklurker: yeah that's odd05:37
spikebikeZykoticK9: I ran nvidia-settings and it happily ran05:37
tanathcelthunder, shouldn't need one. worked before, then upgrades, then no worky05:37
GeetI m using Dell studio 15....and my laptop is having heating problems with ubuntu05:37
html_inprogressteknowill,  i just want to send a 5gb-10 files  and  the internet on windows is like dail up  but not on linux it fast05:37
krakpothi, i'm having an odd issue, just upgraded ubuntu server from 10.10 -> 11.04, and after the loading screen I just see blinking cursor.  I have to press ALT+F1 or ALT+F2 to get my login screen... anyone else see this?05:38
bizerklurkermikinanuq do I just type sudo cd /home? I did that. I types in the password and it said it was wrong.05:38
spikebikeaptitude show nvidia-current05:38
spikebike...05:38
tanathcelthunder, but was too busy to file bug report 'til now, and was hoping it'd be fixed05:38
spikebikeVersion: 270.41.06-0ubuntu105:38
Julie972ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.6.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.22). I cant do anything next (S or m) when I choose m and try sudo mountall, I get stucked. What should I do ? thks05:38
mikinanuqbizerklurker: are you sure the password you set is correct? try going through the steps we talked about before to make sure...  "sudo su" > "passwd" > enter new password05:38
GuyCanadamikinanuq: hey, changed my keyboard to the layout and still no use. any other advice?05:38
celthundertanath: it's probablty not a bug...just add an entry in your xorg.conf for your mouse05:38
amy_bp0, thumbdrive install instead?05:38
celthunderkrakpot: is gdm loaded?05:38
amy_I dont think I have any spare CD's sitting about05:38
tanathcelthunder, it worked for a long time before without any manual interference from me05:39
bp0probably better05:39
celthunderkrakpot: or some other startup manager switch to a terminal and telinit 3 then startx05:39
tanathcelthunder, even after my wipe and reinstall of 10.10... or was it 10.0105:39
tanathcelthunder, *10.0405:39
mikinanuqGuyCanada: hmm not sure, is it nvidia?05:39
jlano x after natty upgrade, nvidia kernel module missing. I need help installing the module or reverting to a free driver that gets gdm giong.05:39
GuyCanadamikinanuq: it is, i see others are having issues?05:39
celthundertanath: ok05:39
bp0amy_, but I upgraded with thumbdrive and it still took an hour... had to fetch 30 packages yet, I guess05:39
allowoverridecan someone take a look at this pastebin, trying to load ubuntu 11.04 on a laptop. this is the wubi-rev211.log  http://pastebin.com/VmSqL6EG05:40
glacemanim currently running ubuntu 10.10 how do i upgrade to 11.04 ?05:40
mikinanuqGuyCanada: I have to connect hdmi before I turn the pc on for it to work. can't do it hot...05:40
celthundertanath: then it could be evdev the kernel or any number of things05:40
celthundermikinanuq: yes you can05:40
bizerklurkerI just logged out of nowhere05:40
GuyCanadainteresting05:40
krakpotcelthunder: not sure what GDM is, how can I check?05:40
spikebikeglaceman: start with apt-get update; apt-get upgrade05:40
celthundermikinanuq: randr05:40
bp0gaceman, update manager will give you a button to press, but you might not want to05:40
ManOfTheTuxWorldI just installed kubuntu 11.04 on virtualbox and the guest additions are not worrking05:40
bizerklurkermikinanuq sorry it logged me out out of nowhere.05:40
GuyCanadamikinanuq: interesting. ill try that, is that just since 11.04?05:40
bizerklurkermikinanuq you said sudo su.... what?05:40
glacemanspikebike: then what after this ?05:40
celthundermikinanuq: try xrandr to load your hdmi after booting05:40
celthunderkrakpot: go to a terminal telinit 3 then type startx05:41
mikinanuqcelthunder: ok will try.. I've always done it that way *shhrug*05:41
tanathcelthunder, so then back to my original question... how do i figure out what package to file a bug report on?05:41
celthunderkrakpot: what happens?05:41
ManOfTheTuxWorldI just installed kubuntu 11.04 on virtualbox and the guest additions are not worrking05:41
spikebike!upgrade05:41
ZykoticK9ManOfTheTuxWorld, you might want to ask in #vbox, when I tried 11.04 in VBox guest additions didn't work either.  Good luck.05:41
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade05:41
Julie972bouhahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa smone could gimme an answer please ?05:41
pfifojla, try `sudo apt-get install nvidia-current`05:41
spikebikeah20:05 < ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also  http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade05:42
spikebikeoh heh the bot is way slow05:42
mikinanuqGuyCanada: I've always done it that way. just works best for me.. I assume it's something in the BIOS05:42
celthunderJulie972: those aren't commands you run in grub05:42
allowoverrideim trying to install ubuntu with in windows xp. can someone look at my wubi log? http://pastebin.com/VmSqL6EG give me some suggestions to dual boot this box. thanks05:42
celthunderJulie972: so they should fail05:42
Julie972after grub05:42
Julie972ubuntu says can mount /05:42
Viking667really quick question about removing a set of packages at once - I put package names into a file with lines like "package   purge", and now I'm trying to get dpkg to remove all of those package names. What command should I be telling dpkg to use?05:42
krakpotcelthunder: telinit 3 works, but statx is not installed I need to install xinit05:42
bizerklurkermikinanuq I kind of lost you there05:42
Julie972Ishloud choose s or m05:42
Julie972i hoose m and then05:42
mikinanuqbizerklurker: yeah, scroll up. it looks like you didn't reset your root password properly.. I put the instructions back up05:42
Julie972sudo mountall05:42
celthunderkrakpot: so install it05:43
mikinanuqbizerklurker: I'll paste again hold a sec05:43
GuyCanadamikinanuq: alright thanks ill try that. probably be back in a few05:43
Julie972and then (epic)fail05:43
Viking667I tried "cat removethese | dpkg --set-selections" but it didn't seem to do anything, and returned in a couple of seconds.05:43
mikinanuqbizerklurker: are you sure the password you set is correct? try going through the steps we talked about before to make sure...  "sudo su" > "passwd" > enter new password05:43
bizerklurkermikinanuq sorry to bother... thanks you05:43
tucemiux!java05:43
ubottuTo install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.05:43
jlapfifo: I have, it says nvidia-173 is auto05:43
krakpotcelthunder: ... installing xinit05:43
pakhairanyone use openerp?05:44
beoyndcrhello05:44
pakhairany specific way to view all the signin and sign out in a single dashboard???05:44
razz1there is a stream.yuv file in my home drive, I did not save any file, not sure how it came to be there? any help05:44
pakhair:|05:45
beoyndcrI just installed 11.04.... is there a reason why it takes 2 mins and 5 seconds to boot? I never had any problems with 10.1005:45
tanathrazz1, can figure out what you were doing at that time from time stamp?05:45
allowoverridebeoyndcr: just came out, more bloat05:45
spikebikebeoyndcr: the one every 180 days fsck?05:46
beoyndcrYhea i but going from 20 sec boot to 2 min boot is alot of bloat05:46
razz1tanath: this is from 29 sep 2010, have not clue, google says its a video file?05:46
tanathrazz1, could also check browser history and other things for that time05:46
FlynsarmyAnyone else experiencing an issue in natty (classic) where apps dont get their sys tray icons? had to start vlc up 3 times eralier for its icon to appear - this time i had to do it about 7 times05:46
pfifobeoyndcr, is this consistant across all boots?05:46
tanathrazz1, ah, so it's showing its original creation time instead05:47
allowoverridespikebike: i think the default is 30 days ;)05:47
beoyndcryes just for 11.0405:47
leftistwhat should i use to burn a cd with the source being an mp3 format?05:47
beoyndcri just timed it twice05:47
beoyndcrin a row05:47
tanathrazz1, check browser download history and such?05:47
pfifobeoyndcr, whats it spending the extra time doing?05:47
lampliterI wondering about the stability of wubi with Windows 7-64? The last time I tried it was with Windows 7-32 and it did not go well05:47
Artariani swear to god05:47
bp0leftist, brasero?05:47
Artariansomeone at ubuntu must fix it05:47
beoyndcrwhat can i do to show what it is doing?05:48
tanathrazz1, didn't watch any vids that might have saved the stream? maybe have a vid player crash and leave something behind?05:48
lampliterI ended up with extra loader entries in the Windows boot loader05:48
Artarianthis 11.04 version.....05:48
byomkeshbakshihi..I am installing ubuntu..I am choosing manual installation..on next page I am shown \dev\sda1 52427\50931 \dev\sda5 52427\3221 \dev\sda6 215206\37545(used)..so I have to choose sda5..its the empty drive on my pc..then what? I need to do edit partion and give size for /,swap and /home?05:48
bp0wubi is a bad idea, imo05:48
leftistit will convert mp3 to raw on the fly bp0?05:48
allowoverridebp0: oh05:48
spikebikeallowoverride: nah, it's 180 ish05:48
allowoverridebp0: im not able to do it otherwise though... trust me05:48
spikebike(by default)05:48
lampliterokay so it means either run virtual machine or dual-boot and given that speech recognition doesn't work in Linux, it's virtual machine. :-)05:48
leftistlet me give it a fly05:48
antiphysicisthi: when I launch an application eg. firefox from the terminal, the terminal won't let me enter any other commands until i close the application, when I close the application it reads through anything I've written and tries to execute that, I have been messing around trying to learn bash scripts and have broken something05:48
allowoverridespikebike: what file is that setting in? i want to check mine05:48
beoyndcrpfifo it sits at a redish screen is there a way to show what modules are loading during the entire boot process05:49
bp0leftist, yes, allowoverride, what?05:49
spikebikeallowoverride: try man tunefs05:49
celthunderantiphysicist: duh...it's supposed to do that05:49
Flynsarmyantiphysicist: firefox &05:49
allowoverridenah, no man pages, ill just look at the config05:49
allowoverride;)05:49
celthunderantiphysicist: if you want to use your terminal more than one app at a time add an anmperstnd after the command05:49
arkanabarit's been a good long while since I tried this ... how do I upgrade installed system from 10.10 to 11.04?05:49
leftistbp0 ok05:49
leftistthanks05:49
leftistbrb05:49
spikebikeallowoverride: it's not in the file it's part of the file system metadata05:49
krakpotcelthunder: ok I installed xinit and when I type startx I get a GUI.  My issue still remain, when the Server starts up, I see the 11.04 loading screen and then just a blinking cursor.  I have to hit ALT+F! just to see the login prompt, then once I log in I can do the startx05:49
allowoverridespikebike: how did you know its 18005:49
jlapfifo: ah, it's skipping the module build, says no kernel source. looking for build depends command.05:49
spikebikeallowoverride: it tells you when it triggers, I've been doing linux for awhile05:50
allowoverridespikebike: im pretty sure i have changed that setting b4 last year, just dont remember the file name05:50
lampliterany reason to use 64 over 32 bit?05:50
pfifobeoyndcr, i think you can press Fv at boot to disable the splash, or you can remove "quiet splash" from the kernel line05:50
celthunderkrakpot: so install a login manager like gdm kdm slim whatever05:50
spikebikeallowoverride: it's not a file05:50
allowoverridespikebike: thats nice, im new to linux05:50
beoyndcrf405:50
allowoverrideok,, brb ill find out, thanks05:50
pfifojla, sudo apt-get install linux-sources05:50
beoyndcr?05:50
ZykoticK9lampliter, faster in most areas, supports more ram05:50
lampliterokay. I give it a go05:50
beoyndcrpfifo f405:50
spikebiketune2fs -i interval-between-checks05:50
pfifobeoyndcr, F2 (not Fv)05:50
beoyndcrok05:50
beoyndcrthanks pfifo05:51
lampliterthe last time I ran 64 was on an AMD machine I had for my wife and stability was not great. That was about 12 to 18 months ago05:51
beoyndcrIll be back in a few05:51
allowoverridespikebike:  first of all, there is no man tunefs, maybe tune2fs though, your credentials are dwindling05:51
allowoverridebrb05:51
krakpotcelthunder: ok I will give that a shot, thanks, never knew login managers existed.  i am such a n00b05:51
spikebikeallowoverride: ya I mentioned that avoe05:51
lampliteron the other hand, all she runs his flash because all she does is Facebook and Thunderbird05:51
ZykoticK9lampliter, little has changed with 64bits in the last year...05:51
spikebikespikebike: some ragging on me and read what I type05:51
lampliterokay well I can always back down to 32 bit if I need to05:51
allowoverrideyah, now i remember it a bit, i think its a cmd that you make the change in.05:51
allowoverridebeen a while05:52
pfifoallowoverride, with 64 bit, chromium, flash worked out of the box05:52
arkanabarlampliter, you can get a PAE kernel to support extra ram.05:52
allowoverridepfifo: ?05:52
FlynsarmyAnyone else experiencing an issue in natty (classic) where apps dont get their sys tray icons? had to start vlc up 3 times eralier for its icon to appear - this time i had to do it about 7 times05:52
lampliterwhich is probably the way to go.. Thanks for the feedback.05:52
pfifolampliter, with 64 bit, chromium, flash worked out of the box05:52
pfifoallowoverride, sorry05:52
allowoverridethis is an old laptop im trying to load... not working with flash, but a flash usb ;)05:52
allowoverrideno worries05:52
allowoverrideim trying to install ubuntu with in windows xp. can someone look at my wubi log? http://pastebin.com/VmSqL6EG give me some suggestions to dual boot this box. thanks05:53
beoyndcrhum05:53
celthunderkrakpot: lol ....you need one if you want to satrt x automatically05:53
arkanabarhow do I upgrade installed system from 10.10 to 11.04?05:53
Sirkilloh my god this is frustrating05:53
Sirkillhow do i downgrade back to 10.1005:53
LAcanany thoughts on how 11.04 is gonna perfrom on 2gugs of ram?05:54
FireAndIceif you really want to try ubuntu, just boot the livecd05:54
sebsebseb!downgrade | Sirkill05:54
ubottuSirkill: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.05:54
beoyndcrnow why whould it take that long two times in a row but the third time it boots under 20 seconds....05:54
allowoverrideSirkill: becareful05:54
Sirkillargh05:54
Viking667LAcan: should be okay.05:54
sebsebsebSirkill: so yep clean install is  how really05:54
beoyndcrany ways thanks guys05:54
arkanabarSirkill: maybe try lxde?05:54
Sirkilli dislike this new 10.1005:54
Sirkilli mean 11.0405:54
Sirkillactually05:54
pfifobeoyndcr, first time startup extras05:54
sebsebsebSirkill: ok :)05:54
LAcanViking667, what size swap should I use?05:54
allowoverride10.10 is fine for me, however, mileage may very ;)05:54
jlapfifo: know why nvida-173 only depends on the headers then, or why the source is needed? seems buggy.05:54
FireAndIceLAcan: It will perform spectacularly05:54
Sirkillit runs exactly the same as 10.10 i want it to do something different05:54
arkanabarSirkill: my guess is that it's Unity you don't like, right?05:54
allowoverrideim not even going to 11.04 myself for at least a month05:54
Viking667LAcan: that, I can't tell you, because I don't know.05:55
beoyndcralso right before i just did the last reboot everything way laggy05:55
krakpotcelthunder: well the thing is I don't want to start xserver, I am happy with CLI its my webserver.  I just want to see the loging prompt without having to press ALT+F1 this worked in 10.1005:55
Sirkilli actually cant get unity to start working05:55
Sirkilldoesnt turn on05:55
SirkillLOL05:55
beoyndcrnow its smooth05:55
Sirkilland also it rearanged all of my stuff05:55
mikinanuqallowoverride: that pastebin didn't work05:55
celthunderkrakpot: so add a 3 in grub to boot to terminal mode05:55
Sirkilland downloaded firefox 405:55
arkanabarSirkill: reason enough not to like it.  I like & use lxde on Ubuntu.05:55
allowoverridemikinanuq: thanks,ill fix that now05:55
allowoverridebr05:55
sebsebsebSirkill: yep Firefox 4 is default in 11.0405:55
beoyndcrwhat are the thoughts on the unity?05:55
Sirkilli hate firefox 4 and deliberately avoided downloading it05:55
celthunderkrakpot: then you'll boot to init 305:55
yuskhanzabsomething wrong with my ubuntu, i cant play dota(warcraft) in wine properly because of the keyboard detect something in desktop. ive been configure it and nothing happen. can someone pls help me how to???? when i open the game and press the keyboard key, it detect like something search word(dunno what is it). it appear after i upgrade to natty. pls help me to disable that search word in desktop.05:55
FlynsarmySirkill: nvidia proprietry graphics?05:55
Sirkillyergh05:55
Sirkilli;m ona vm05:56
a7i3nTried nattie in a VM couldn't get Unity to work either...05:56
Sirkillon a vm05:56
Sirkillfucking05:56
Sirkilli'm on a vm05:56
yuskhanzabim using the classic ubuntu05:56
FloodBot1Sirkill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:56
FlynsarmySirkill: VM has no 3D so no unity05:56
sebsebsebSirkill: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/05:56
sebsebsebSirkill: v05:56
pfifojla, the kernel module is going to need the kernel headers... I dont even think i can explain why... all the functions the nvidia driver is going to use, are defined in the kernel headers, without them it would be like handing a blind guy a gun.05:56
SirkillAAAAA05:56
leftistdidnt realize brasaro was so slick05:56
Sirkilli also lost my tools05:56
leftistthanks05:56
Sirkillvmware tools05:56
a7i3nI'm using Xbuntu on a VM now... it's wonderful...05:56
Sirkilli would really like to go back to 19.1905:56
Sirkill10.1005:56
allowoverrideim trying to install ubuntu with in windows xp. can someone look at my wubi log? http://pastebin.com/nqiu6HBh give me some suggestions to dual boot this box. thanks05:56
mikinanuqbeoyndcr: it's difficult to get used to and not intuitive.. I've been using it all day today and finally I'm getting used to it.05:56
yuskhanzabsomething wrong with my ubuntu, i cant play dota(warcraft) in wine properly because of the keyboard detect something in desktop. ive been configure it and nothing happen. can someone pls help me how to???? when i open the game and press the keyboard key, it detect like something search word(dunno what is it). it appear after i upgrade to natty. pls help me to disable that search word in desktop. im using classic ubuntu right now05:56
Sirkilla7i3n hmm05:56
beoyndcrmy cuz just went back to 10.1005:57
allowoverrideyep pastebin added a new capcha lol05:57
jlapfifo: i understand needing the headers, it's nvidia-173 needing kernel-source that seems odd and not depending on it that seems buggy05:57
Sirkillbeoyndcr how to do this05:57
sebsebsebSirkill: well make a new vm of 1.10 then I guess?05:57
LAcanany way to use gnome in 11.04 or should i just suck it up an use unity?05:57
Sirkillarght thats a bitch05:57
spikebikeLAcan: either05:57
mikinanuqbeoyndcr: basically you can't scroll down menu like before. You have to type in what you need and then click on teh icon or type enough so that you can press enter and it will launch the right program05:57
Sirkilli;d rather just install firefox 3.605:57
Sirkillhow to do this05:57
beoyndcrmikinanuq I am trying hard to like it05:57
spikebikeunity IMO is reasonable, but a big change05:57
FlynsarmyLAcan: on the login screen select gnome classic down the bottom05:57
allowoverridemikinanuq: i think squashfs is the culprit, but i dont know howto fix that...05:57
celthunderLAcan: you can install gnome if you want05:58
LAcanis unity better somehow or why the change?05:58
pfifojla, maybe its a packaging mismatch, not that big of a bug and its probbally been reported, but if you want you can check launchpad when it cools down05:58
allowoverridemikinanuq: i also have a an ubuntu installer error, on my screen on that box05:58
mikinanuqbeoyndcr: get used to pressing the windows key a lot...05:58
arkanabarLAcan: may I suggest lxde?  It works for me.05:58
alpha255anyone got unity 3d working on a lenovo t61p?05:58
celthunderLAcan: and to answer your question on swap ...depends on your ram usage and how much you have..if you have 20gb and you on average use one...don't make a swap dir05:58
alpha255the laptop wasn't plugged in when i did the install05:58
FlynsarmyLAcan: it's DEBAtABLY better if youre on a netbook. otherwise there's no reason to use it05:58
vibhav<NyvenZA> sudo apt-get install unity-2d05:58
truepurpleCan anyone help me with a problem installing a ATI radeon driver?05:58
mikinanuqallowoverride: where is the good pastebin of the log?05:58
LAcanarkanabar, id just install lubuntu if i wanted that :)05:58
allowoverridemikinanuq: says permission denied, however, im logged in with admin perms on xp. odd05:58
allowoverridehttp://pastebin.com/nqiu6HBh05:58
byomkeshbakshi hi..I am installing ubuntu..I am choosing manual installation..on next page I am shown \dev\sda1 52427\50931 \dev\sda5 52427\3221 \dev\sda6 215206\37545(used)..so I have to choose sda5..its the empty drive on my pc..then what? I need to do edit partion and give size for /,swap and /home?05:58
beoyndcrmikinanuq: Wow thanks did not know they made use of the super key.05:58
yuskhanzabis there anybody can help me05:59
RoastedIs there ANY customizable settings for Unity 2D? At least on 3D I can make the bar auto hide and change icon sizes. Can I not do this in Unity 2D?05:59
alpha255that is cool05:59
vibhav<truepurple> Tehre are open source drivers05:59
alpha255super key05:59
allowoverridemikinanuq:  yep that links works05:59
yell0whas anyone in here successfully used fglrx for ati with -pae kernels ?05:59
arkanabarLAcan: that's what I did.  it's gtk, runs the apps natively.  YOu can keep most of your favorite gnome apps.05:59
beoyndcrWhy is it called the super key it should be called the gimp key05:59
LAcanlololol06:00
mikinanuqallowoverride: holy crackers batman!! what line are you talking about?06:00
FlynsarmyRoasted: i pressed teh ubuntu button at the top left, typed unity, discovered a little window with 2 checkboxes that for some retarded reason weren't linked to the Appearance settings. that was all the customisation i could find lol06:00
allowoverridemikinanuq: lol,, i know huh,,, i didnt config that log function06:00
celthunderkrakpot: that work?06:00
allowoverridemikinanuq: prolly towards the bottom06:00
truepurplevibhav: I don't want to use the open source drivers, I want to use the proprietary ones that you get from additional drivers06:00
maddiemikinanuq I did everything you said. It looks like a new install yet I still have the same problem :/06:00
arkanabarhow do I upgrade installed system from 10.10 to 11.04?06:00
krakpotcelthunder: not sure how to 'add a 3 in grub'06:01
RoastedFlynsarmy, in that menu could you change the bar to auto hide or icon sizes?06:01
bazhang!upgrade > arkanabar06:01
ubottuarkanabar, please see my private message06:01
jlapfifo: installed linux-source, linux-source-2.6.38; same error. I think the message 'kernel source for this kernel doesn not seem to be installed' is misleading :) uname -r 2.6.38-8-generic-pae06:01
Flynsarmyarkanabar: alot of issues with upgrades on the Known Issues page06:01
FlynsarmyRoasted: hahahaha now theres some wishful thinking.06:01
mikinanuqmaddie: hmm :( .. so you log in, set up your preferences like you like.. then it reverts back?06:01
vibhav<arkanabar> Alt F2 --> "update-manager -d"06:01
bazhangvibhav, thats not correct06:01
vibhav<arkanabar> at the top click on "upgrade"06:01
RoastedFlynsarmy, are you on 2d tho, or 3d?06:01
maddiemikinanuq yep :/06:02
FlynsarmyRoasted: 3D06:02
vibhav<bazhang> whats corrent then...06:02
beoyndcri think i just hate the bar being on the left side of the screen I use to hate when people would set their windows task bar to the left and this is what that reminds me of06:02
FearXFactorXwhat is this?06:02
bazhangvibhav, its no longer development06:02
celthunderkrakpot: http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/2654-ubuntu-set-default-runlevel-etc-inittab.html06:02
jlapfifo: ahh, was missing -pae headers :S06:02
bazhang!upgrade | vibhav have a read06:02
ubottuvibhav have a read: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade06:02
arkanabaryeah, if I'd come here under ubuntu instead of PCLOS, I'd have probably figured that out.06:02
vibhav<bazhang> ohhh...I remember....Thats for pre-release...06:02
ZykoticK9vibhav, -d in update-manager if for "development" ie. alpha/beta -- Natty is now stable06:02
pfifojla, you only need -pae if you have over 4gb of memory, if you dont you should consider generic06:03
truepurplevibhav: Are you able to help me with this driver that won't install?06:03
vibhavbazahng : - Sorry guys!06:03
yell0whas anyone in here successfully used fglrx for ati with -pae kernels ?06:03
vibhav<truepurple> Lemme see06:03
* ZykoticK9 "Natty is now stable" that's funny06:03
unityproblemnatty final release not showing on update manager??06:03
amy_when using the startup disk creator and it asks about updates, etc. It won't try and install it on the system I'm creating the USB startup drive from, will it?06:03
maddiecould anyone else answer my question? :/ https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+question/15487506:03
celthunderZykoticK9: theres no such thing as 100 percent stable software06:04
unityproblemnatty final release not showing on update manager??06:04
allowoverridemikinanuq: maybe this one will work better, its newer.... http://pastebin.com/58SgFsQF06:04
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allowoverridemikinanuq: thanks for taking a alook. :)06:04
unityproblemupdating from 11.04 beta to final ??06:04
celthunderkrakpot: ? any luck06:05
unityproblemhow to do that?06:05
mikinanuqallowoverride: yeah I see the squashfs errors under the temp dir...06:05
truepurplevibhav: See what, the error message I get?06:05
vibhavtruepurple : - http://paste.ubuntu.com/601146/06:05
allowoverridemikinanuq: what is the next step you think?06:05
MohammadAGsudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:05
vibhavtruepurple : - Gl06:05
jlapfifo: all my .35's are generic. I think the upgrade picked -pae, maybe because I have exactly 4gb so I don't get the top 1-2GB wasted by bios/device memmap06:05
ZykoticK9MohammadAG, dist-upgrade does NOT update to a new version06:05
Viking667bah. Not enough room...06:05
krakpotcelthunder: trying to do that now, hopefully this will work06:05
vibhavtruepurple  :- I gtg06:05
MohammadAGZykoticK9, umm, he asked about beta to final06:06
mikinanuqallowoverride: go to that directory and see if it's there..06:06
jlapfifo: and the header selection stuff didn't use my uname -r to get the -pae headers maybe06:06
allowoverridemikinanuq: i just noticed something,,, this doesnt make sense... i know i downloaded 11.04 today, 32 bit, 11-13 06:26 DEBUG  Distro: wrong arch: i386 != amd6406:06
ZykoticK9MohammadAG, sorry that is correct then!06:06
unityproblemhow to upgrade from 11.04 beta to final ?06:06
Shaggy2anyone able to assist me with my 3 monitors, I have an issue with it, I have all 3 working, but one I can not change from about 800x600 and also I want to be able to drag windows from one screen to another06:06
pfifojla, so -pae got the nvidia installed correctly in the end?06:06
unityproblemhow to upgrade from 11.04 beta to final ?06:06
allowoverridecheck out line 19506:06
truepurplevibhav wait please, contact info? I need more information06:06
lubuntuhello06:06
allowoverridemikinanuq: check out line 19506:06
MohammadAGunityproblem, you don't read do you?06:06
unityproblemi did but its showing errors.06:07
allowoverridemikinanuq: does that make any sense?06:07
MohammadAGunityproblem, <MohammadAG> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade06:07
nabi1how to upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 with CD?06:07
maddiehttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+question/154875 help anyone? :(06:07
celthunderShaggy2: xrandr -output <OUTPUTTORESIZE> -mode 800x60006:07
lubuntuwhere is the ubuntu korea channel?06:07
mikinanuqallowoverride: hmm yeah maybe you got the 64bit version for some reason ...06:07
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izinucshow do I query what channels a nick is in?06:07
ZykoticK9nabi1, you need the alternate cd, NOT the LiveCD - don't ask me how though06:07
allowoverridemikinanuq: no way,, thats just rediculious,,,06:07
jlapfifo: it looked like it compiled on install of the -pae headers, but still no modinfo for nvidia. rebooting and then if it still fails trying reinstall nvidia-17306:07
unityproblemhttp://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam06:07
Artarianguys any tutorial to rollback version to 10.10??????06:07
mikinanuqallowoverride: also I was going to say (I've never done wubi but..) if there is a way to tell it where to put the squashfs try to put it somewhere else see if that works..06:07
unityproblemthis is the errori am getting06:07
allowoverridemikinanuq: i know i selected 32 bit... let me triple check06:07
pfifo!cn | I think its in this factoid lubuntu06:08
ubottuI think its in this factoid lubuntu: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道:打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk06:08
ZykoticK9Artarian, reinstall...06:08
allowoverridemikinanuq: yah that would make sense huh06:08
ArtarianZykoticK9, how to do that06:08
jlapfifo: yes, it worked on reboot06:08
testhello i have problem, i download yesterday ubu 11.04 (correct md5sum) but when i run live cd or install on main machine then it crashed when loading, i can see "ubuntu 11.04" and 4 loading points, then i can see mouse cursor (i can move it) then all stoping and i can see only black or purple screen and nothing more. cd is working on my friend notebook, anyone know whats going on?06:08
NabiZykoticK9: thanks06:08
allowoverridemikinanuq: good old slack days lol06:08
lubuntu#ubuntu-ko06:08
nit-witArtarian, roll back is not a go06:08
ZykoticK9Artarian, as in - fresh reinstall, rollback not supported06:08
quentusrexAnyone know how to find out why KVM bridged utils is not passing ipv4?06:08
jlapfifo: tyvm for help/sounding board06:08
allowoverridecompile everything!06:08
Shaggy2<celthunder> I want to goto 1280 x 102406:08
krakpotcelthunder: no luck. there is no file '/etc/event.d/rc-default' so I can't follow those instructions...06:08
quentusrexonly happened after upgrading to 11.0406:08
Artariannit-wit, ZykoticK9  whatever how to do that06:08
pfifojla, np06:08
Artariantest, u did the biggest mistake ever upgrading to 11.0306:08
Artarian11.04* thats it06:09
nit-witArtarian, do whst?06:09
celthunderkrakpot: then edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and add a 3 to the kernel line06:09
Artariannit-wit, getting back to older version?06:09
celthunderkrakpot: save and next reboot should work06:09
mikinanuqallowoverride: I cheated and used tgz's :)06:09
Flynsarmywtf. why won't apps sys tray icons appear in 11.04 gnome classic??? have to start vlc up several times to get it to appear06:09
nit-witArtarian, you have to do a fresh install06:09
celthunderShaggy2: so use that and change 800x600 to whatever06:09
Artarianwow06:09
allowoverridemikinanuq: im just gonna burn 10.10 again, and go with that,, i think the 11.04 makefile or whatever they use - wubi, is hosed06:09
jlaI'm liking the new unity on my laptop, works better than in 10.10; on my desktop will take some getting use to.06:09
maddiecan anyone answer my question? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+question/15487506:09
bc81hi.  i need some help unmounting this stubborn nfs share.  it's got nautilus timing out and frozen, doing all kinds of odd things.06:09
testArtarian, but i dont upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04, that was pure instalation on fresh HDD06:09
nit-witArtarian, that is why you should clone the setup before you mw=ess with upgrading06:10
mikinanuqallowoverride: I was going to say why use wubi in the first place but hey...06:10
unityproblemMohammadAG http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam06:10
* LAcan is is installing thru wubi right now :|06:10
RoastedWas there a fix for Unity yet with dual screen monitors?06:10
slyruswhat do package versions like 3.2.is3.0.1-0ubuntu1?06:10
spikebikeRoasted: whats wrong with unity on dual head setups?06:10
Roastedspikebike, unity only likes being on the left. But my right monitor = main monitor. I can't figure out how to get the unity bar to be on the left of my right (main) monitor.06:10
FlynsarmyAre the nvidia 3D experimental stable enough to use in 11.04?06:10
Shaggy2<celthunder> ok thanks for that, but how do I make it so I can drag windows across the monitors, at the moment I can only open up on the monitor I want it on but I can't move from monitor to monitor06:11
html_inprogresshow can i tell my host name06:11
allowoverridemikinanuq: yep i downloaded i386 positively, however, i downloaded it on a 64bit box, burned to cd, then did the wubi install, i have no other option but to dual boot this box06:11
krakpotcelthunder: ok I will give it a shot06:11
allowoverridethe bios is from an real old laptop, pre200006:11
celthunderShaggy2: ok uhm what ui you using06:11
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Shaggy2ubuntu 10.0406:11
unityproblemany body can help with this  http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam   i am not able to upgrade06:11
spikebikeRoasted: heh, ah, have 2 desktops, each with 2 monitors, and it's of course on the left of the left monitor06:11
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celthunderShaggy2: that sounds more like a window manager restriction than anything06:11
Roastedspikebike, is your left monitor you rmain monitor?06:12
mikinanuqallowoverride: oh so can't boot from CD?06:12
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ZykoticK9Flynsarmy, i don't think any Nvidia proprietary drivers will work on 11.04... I've asked in the channel, and don't believe the one person who said they have it working (i could certainly be wrong)06:12
spikebikeRoasted: not sure what main means... I use em both06:12
Roastedspikebike, ah. I have mismatching monitors, so my bigger one = main.06:12
allowoverridemikinanuq: maybe thats why im getting the squashfs error,,, and yes,, i cant boot to cdrom with out disabling in bios the hd. which of course means, i can load to hd if disabled lol06:12
unityproblemany body can help with this  http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam   i am not able to upgrade....06:12
maddielauncheeeeer in driving me bonkers. why does it always revert to default icons in the launcher every freeking time I login? D:06:12
FlynsarmyZykoticK9: i'm using nvidia proprietry right now without issue lol. i was asking about the open source 3d experimental ones06:12
Roastedspikebike, my 2nd one is just for IRC, email, IMs, etc. I dont WORK from it, it just displays additional... crap. :P06:12
arnabhi - how do i see youtube in the latest version of ubuntu?06:12
allowoverridemikinanuq: i have a catch 22 going here06:12
FlynsarmyZykoticK9: nvidia proprietry have worked in every version of ubuntu fine06:12
spikebikeRoasted: I have a 1920x1200 and 1600x1200 on one machine06:12
ZykoticK9Flynsarmy, in 11.04?06:12
FlynsarmyZykoticK9: yep06:12
scorch_yo yo yo, anyone got 11.04 onto a laptop yet and tested with batter?06:13
spikebikeunityproblem: try atp-get upadte apt-get upgrade before that dist-upgrade06:13
unityproblemany body can help with this  http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam   i am not able to upgrade06:13
ZykoticK9Flynsarmy, interesting...06:13
mikinanuqallowoverride: gotcha.. :)06:13
FlynsarmyZykoticK9: what exactly did you think didn't work about them?06:13
GabrielYYZany pygtk gurus here that could give me an idea on how to implement an adjustment and an hscale on a video player?06:13
Shaggy2celthunder: also this xrandr -output <OUTPUTTORESIZE> -mode 800x600 how do I make on;y do that to a certainmonitor, as I have 3 montiors ones widescreen and the other 2 are normal 17"06:13
NabiZykoticK9: if I use DVD, how about?06:13
ZykoticK9Flynsarmy, Nvidia said they weren't interested in using the replacement of Xorg... forgot what it's called.06:13
celthunderShaggy2: change the outputhere part to the one you want06:14
ZykoticK9Nabi, i don't think the DVD is an alternate, i think that's a Live, thus can't do upgrades06:14
Shaggy2ahhhh ok06:14
allowoverrideim pretty much at a stand still... i have no idea what i can do next to get this box to dual boot other than the i386/64amd error which makes sense,,, anyone else have some thoughts? http://pastebin.com/nqiu6HBh06:14
quentusrexAnyone know how to force ipv4 networking06:14
html_inprogresshow can i tell my host name?06:14
quentusrexand disable ipv6?06:14
celthunderShaggy2: for example i'm on a netbook so i use xrandr -output LVDS1 -mode 1024x600 -output VGA1 -mode 1440x90006:15
ZykoticK9html_inprogress, "hostname" in a terminal will show you06:15
BATMANguys i can't upgrade to 11.04 using the update manger whenever i click on upgrade it shows me an error "failed to download release note, check your internet connection"06:15
celthunderShaggy2: also helps to spcefiy where to put them such ass ad -right-of LVDS1 after output vga1 asw ell06:15
scorch_11..-4 when my laptop is on battery pwer the screen flickers sometimes and the britness bar comes up and move quickly.  this disables the mouse and the only way to get it to stop is to press a key on the key board06:15
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html_inprogressallowoverride,  reinstall gurb in safe mode????06:15
FlynsarmyZykoticK9: If you have an nvidia card, when you first install 11.04 you'll be greeted with an extremly ugly popup box (very strange looking thing) that says your hardware doesnt support unity. if you then go and install the proprietry ones from additional drivers window and reboot, both unity and classic work fine. at least thats my experience. 8600M GT on a dell inspiron 152006:15
maddieHelp help Launcher Icons Revert to Default Upon Login06:16
GabrielYYZquentusrex, nano /etc/modprobe/blacklist.conf and add "blacklist ipv6" at the end without the quotes06:16
allowoverridei think also the permissions issue error on xp shows, that its creating an Ubuntu dir on c:\Ubuntu which means, the perms on C drive are mucked up06:16
alpha255Flynsarmy: even if i installed the 2d version06:16
alpha255?06:16
SikOK, I upgraded to 11.04 and I'm having issues with the video driver it seems... This is the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pzt.me/5rjk I've tried fixing the packages (dpkg) and uninstalling the video driver then reinstalling it, but no matter what I do, X hangs after the log in screen unless I go into safe mode06:16
GabrielYYZquentusrex, and reboot*06:16
ZykoticK9Flynsarmy, thanks.06:16
allowoverridehtml_inprogress: thats a good idea, i was thinking bout safe mode, but the perms issue, will that work out in the end lol06:16
Shaggy2celthunder: so xrandr -output <DFP-0> -mode 1280x102406:16
jdsbluedevlhi, can someone tell me why the Unity desktop is causing my screen to blink?  GNOME works perfectly fine.06:16
Flynsarmyalpha255: before installing the proprietry drivers you're sent to gnoem classic - not even unity 2d loaded for me06:16
allowoverrideonly one way to find out,,, ill give it a whirl, safe mode. oh and there is no grub menu at this point.... i havent gotten grub on the drive yet...06:17
celthunderShaggy2: sure type xrandr by itslef to find what the current outputs/settings for each are06:17
alpha255Flynsarmy: ahh06:17
allowoverrideif i did, i wouldnt have this issue lol06:17
scorch_jsbluedevl:  on a laptop?06:17
celthunderShaggy2: should be able to find the errant one06:17
Shaggy2ok06:17
jdsbluedevlscorch_: no, desktop06:17
Guest22122i can't upgrade to 11.04 using the update manger whenever i click on upgrade it shows me an error "failed to download release note, check your internet connection" how can i fix this06:17
mikinanuqallowoverride: go for floppies ;) ...06:17
Buzzzzsince we are talking dual screen do anyone know how to make flash appear on the preferred screen in an dual screen setup?06:17
allowoverridelol06:17
alpha255sudo apt-get install unity-2d06:17
allowoverrideno floppy shrugs06:17
allowoverridebbiab06:17
mikinanuq:(06:17
mertherI'm looking to create a variable that contains the name of a mounted volume attached.  The name of the volume is different depending on the drive attached.  If I use mount -l it will list the device then the mount point.  /dev/sr0 on /media/volume type etc...  Is there a way to extract the information that's in the place of 'volume'?06:17
scorch_jsbluedevI am here with the same problem06:17
Flynsarmyalpha255: it's not installed by default?06:17
alpha255i'll do the unistall and then try to 3d06:17
Guest22122isn't it unity-qt?06:17
jdsbluedevlscorch_: processor is a P4 2.8 GHz, but I don't think that should matter06:18
alpha255it's wasn't on this laptop06:18
LAcanmerther, grep!?06:18
truepurpleI failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?06:18
eventusis there a way to enable desktop effects in Natty when your graphics card isn't supported by Unity. I'm currently using Unity 2D and I really miss my wobbly windows06:18
knightwisemorning06:18
alpha255i wasn't connected to internet during install06:18
mikinanuqeventus: did it work before the upggrade?06:18
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jmwpcAfter upgrading to 11.04, shutting down doesn't actually power off my laptop, it just goes to a black screen.06:18
GabrielYYZquentusrex, sorry it's "/etc/modprobe.d" not modprobe06:19
eventusmikinanuq: yes06:19
mikinanuqeventus: try ubuntu tweak and go to the compiz screen. install compiz plugin.06:19
bp0merther, /dev/disk/by-* ?06:19
bp0look in there06:19
scorch_11..-4 when my laptop is on battery pwer the screen flickers sometimes and the britness bar comes up and move quickly.  this disables the mouse and the only way to get it to stop is to press a key on the key board06:19
haroonhelo06:20
mikinanuqeventus: then you can set it from the compiz config settings manager06:20
haroonhello06:20
truepurple I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?06:20
mertherLAcan,  I can grep for /dev/sc0 etc... and that gives the whole line including file system type.  So from that result how do I get only the desired variable from /media/variable?06:20
yuskhanzabsomething wrong with my ubuntu, i cant play dota(warcraft) in wine properly because of the keyboard detect something in desktop. ive been configure it and nothing happen. can someone pls help me how to???? when i open the game and press the keyboard key, it detect like something search word(dunno what is it). it appear after i upgrade to natty. pls help me to disable that search word in desktop.06:20
mikinanuqeventus: don't muck around with compiz too much though unless you have a backup of your home folder that you can revert to if you get everything hosed06:20
pfifomerther, `mount -l|grep sr0|sed 's/.*\///'`06:21
redgonehas anyone done any performance/battary benchmark for unity? it seems to use compiz, as opposed to mutter06:21
unityproblemhttp://pastebin.com/L8ZPREwp06:21
Flynsarmymikinanuq: eventus: ccsm lets you take compiz settings backups and has import functionality if things go back.06:21
tanstaaflHi, is there a way to change the order of icons in the unity sidebar?06:21
Flynsarmygo bad*06:21
mikinanuqyuskhanzab: is it a key combination key like alt+f2 that messes you up?06:22
haroonmy wireless network shows disabled in NM and when I write this command from terminal ( sudo iwlist scan) it shows available networks how can I coonect with06:22
haroon11.0406:22
SS_Hello Ubuntu Release 11.4 had many problems06:22
yuskhanzabi done what is that.. its not a combination key like alt F206:22
bp0SS_, yes.06:22
mikinanuqtanstaafl: I think it just keeps them there in the order they were added06:23
THE-SE7EN-SINSOhai guies06:23
truepurple I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?06:23
yuskhanzabwhen i press any key like a b c d, it comes06:23
tanstaaflmikinanuq: how annoying.  thanks06:23
yuskhanzabin desktop06:24
mikinanuqtanstaafl: remove and add in the right order :( ... I think I was able to drag them at one point in the beta but not working now06:24
miles__So far, most of Natty has been pretty awesome. I've got only one problem now, and I wonder if it's a common one at this point: apt has been very slow.06:24
scorch_jsbluedevl:  when does it do it?06:24
THE-SE7EN-SINSIs it just me or has the sound been amped way up in 11.04?06:24
yuskhanzabit is a bug or what?06:24
SS_What do you think Ubuntu 11.406:24
mertherpfifo, that seems a little better06:24
tanstaaflmikinanuq: Guess that's what I'll do.  Thanks for the info06:24
pfifomiles__, repos are flooded, try using a mirror06:24
mikinanuqtanstaafl: ok06:24
diffract|how do i merge tracks in audacity?06:24
bp0THE-SE7EN-SINS, yes it seems that way... something is definitely wrong with sound06:24
miles__Alright, I thought so. Thanks.06:24
pfifoTHE-SE7EN-SINS, funny, mine was way too low06:25
haroonhello06:25
haroonI need06:25
haroonhelp06:25
sebsebseb!ask | haroon06:25
ubottuharoon: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)06:25
mikinanuqyuskhanzab: hmm I don't play warcraft in wine so I don't have any firsthand experience with this issue. just guessing... if you start notepad in wine and type do the letters that you type show up correctly?06:26
haroonI am facing problem wireless is disabled by hardware Sitch06:26
yuskhanzabwait i check06:26
mato1da yg tau kmn perginya system?06:27
mikinanuqyuskhanzab: maybe wine is messed up and when you are sending a b c etc... it sees other UTF characters or ACSII stuff that shouldn't be going over..06:27
yuskhanzabmikinanuq, ya, i can type correctly in notepad06:28
BarsukHi06:28
BarsukHow  to change gnome to unity?06:28
roasted_Is there a way to create hotkeys to reduce/raise backlight brightness on laptops? I don't have function keys for it on this particular laptop. :(06:28
teknowillBarsuk: install 11.04 unity is default06:29
Barsukso no gnome here?06:29
truepurple I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?06:29
Barsukyesterday was gnome, now unity.06:29
mikinanuqyuskhanzab: do you have any special settings in warcraft for keybindings? maybe try making everything as "default" as possible to see if it works then start customizing it.06:29
celthunderBarsuk: install unity/gnome whichever you want06:29
sebsebsebBarsuk: Unity goes on top of Gnome 2.  and Ubuntu Classic Desktop /  Gnome 2 with the Ubuntu specific stuff, is there as well.06:30
jdsbluedevlhow do I wipe the compiz-config settings?  Turning on Unity within GNOME and restarting just caused my desktop to start blinking again06:30
yuskhanzabok, ill try06:30
jonsacohola alguien me puede ayudar las particiones no las puedo montar06:30
Barsukso no way now to turn on gnome?06:30
sebsebseb!es | jonsaco06:30
ubottujonsaco: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.06:30
sebsebsebBarsuk: turn on gnome?06:30
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BarsukI want gnome.06:30
jonsacogracias06:30
[thor]Barsuk: gnome2 is "turned on" as well as unity06:30
sebsebsebBarsuk: ok so you got Unity showing?06:30
Barsuksebsebseb, yes06:31
Shaggy2ok can someone tell me how to install ATI Drivers on 10.0406:31
[thor]Barsuk: you want gnome 1.xx ?06:31
sebsebsebBarsuk: log out, and select Ubuntu Classic Desktop from the log in screen06:31
pfifoyuskhanzab, give me a minute ill fire up wow and see if I can do the same thing, if I can Ill probbally be able to fix it, it will take me a momen t  to install wine tho06:31
sebsebsebBarsuk: set it as default even :)06:31
truepurpleShaggy2, one way is to go into system, adminstration, additional drivers (different name under 10.4, I forget) though its not working for me06:32
mertherpfifo, the command you mentions gives more output then I'd like.  It does however show the exact data betwee [] such as [volume_name].  How do I get the data between those so that I only have volume_name?06:32
* AlbertoP cannot turn on unity :(06:32
miles__Hm. Even after testing for the best mirror for my location, I'm only getting 20kbps.06:32
yuskhanzabok pfifo06:32
sebsebseb!details | AlbertoP06:32
ubottuAlbertoP: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."06:32
truepurple I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?06:32
tanstaaflThe sound in my logitek usb headphones is very quiet, speakers work fine though.  Any fix for this?06:32
mikinanuqharoon: so the hardware switch is preventing wireless... it sounds like the question needs to be rephrased otherwise I would say just turn on wireless with the hardware switch.. need more info06:32
pfifomerther, show me exactly what command your typing and the output... pastebin.com06:32
ZykoticK9miles__, expect all mirrors to be busy for the next couple of days06:32
AlbertoPsebsebseb: it says the hardware is insufficient, but it is a nvidia quadro. And it runs gnome 2.06:33
sebsebsebAlbertoP: ok is that a new card or?06:33
* vibhav is ready to help!!06:33
FlynsarmyAlbertoP: have you installed nvidia proprietry?06:33
AlbertoPsebsebseb: yes, brand new06:33
sebsebsebAlbertoP: is a propritary driver installed?06:33
miles__ZykoticK9: I was kinda afraid of that. That's fine though. Can't wait for things to clear up.06:33
AlbertoPsebsebseb: well, yes06:34
vibhavanyody with any problem??06:34
sebsebsebAlbertoP: also your card may be to new for Unity06:34
VustomHow do I add a custom launcher to Unity 3D (Ubuntu 11.4) and have an icon for the launcher as well?06:34
AlbertoPsebsebseb: oh06:34
sebsebsebAlbertoP: well the 3D version of it, Unity 2D well of course not06:34
bazhangvibhav, please dont ask.06:34
AlbertoPsebsebseb: is there a list of supported cards?06:34
FlynsarmyToo new :( how sad is that06:34
andro_why do the 64bit and 32 bit versions have different uis?06:34
sebsebsebAlbertoP: ok so it says the driver is installed, but not activiated? in additional drivers?06:34
vibhavbazhang I have refiened all me facts.. So i am ready to help!06:34
drhydraliskAfter a fresh install my headphones worked fine (auto switched to proper output) but when I restart my headphones are not recognized anymore (I did another fresh install without changing a single thing, just restarting and it still happened), any help?06:34
AlbertoPsebsebseb: no, the driver is running fine06:34
sebsebsebAlbertoP: in general Linux distro's work best with not to old, and not to new hardware06:35
sebsebsebAlbertoP: and you get an error message when trying to load Unity?06:35
bazhangvibhav, there's no need to say "anyone want help?"; if you can help with an issue do so.06:35
AlbertoPsebsebseb: yes, that error message appears in a GTK dialog at login06:35
Shaggy2truepurple: I have Hardware drivers, but it only shows nVidia drivers there, I have a PCI nVidia card, and a PCIe ATI Card06:35
VustomD:06:35
Shaggy2might shutdown and pull the nVidia card06:35
Shaggy2bbs06:36
sebsebsebAlbertoP: ok if you remove the propritary driver,  an experimetnal 3D driver is probablay available and it may work with that.  or just use Unity 2D or Gnome Shell from the ppa instead or something :)06:36
mertherpfifo, http://pastebin.com/9MwCtkxW06:36
AlbertoPsebsebseb: ok06:36
AlbertoPthank you06:36
mertherpfifo, only want DriveName in the variable06:36
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sebsebseb!gnome3 | AlbertoP06:37
ubottuAlbertoP: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.06:37
sebsebseb!unity  | AlbertoP06:37
ubottuAlbertoP: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity06:37
truepurple I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?06:37
sebsebsebAlbertoP: thought Unity factoid might have mentioned 2D version, hadn't seen it yet06:38
AlbertoPsebsebseb: yeah, I know... the "fork" story was everywhere ;-)06:38
Cairocelthunder: thanks for the help06:38
truepurplesebsebseb: Can you help me?06:38
Cairoi can boot fine now except if I do recovery mode06:38
Cairobut it gets stuck on booting up normally06:38
Cairoas in it displayes fine but it gets stuck06:39
Cairooh06:39
Caironow i cant get where it gets stuck06:39
Cairobrb06:39
SikI upgraded to 11.04 and I'm having issues with the video driver it seems... This is the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pzt.me/5rjk I've tried fixing the packages (dpkg) and uninstalling the video driver then reinstalling it, but no matter what I do, X hangs after the log in screen unless I go into safe mode <-- Does anybody know how to fix it? :P06:39
pfifomerther, mount -l|grep sr0|sed 's/.*\/\(.*\) type.*/\1/'06:39
celthunderCairo: i helped you ? when06:39
yuskhanzabpfifo, u have the same prob as me?06:40
pfifoyuskhanzab, still installing, slow repos06:40
yuskhanzabok06:40
allowoverridenope, same issue, unable to boot to ubuntu with wubi, im now trying 9.10 desktop 32. also, i think the i368 was not an error, but a check06:40
allowoverridenope, same issue, unable to boot to ubuntu with wubi, im now trying 9.10 desktop 32. also, i think the i368 was not an error, but a check06:41
VustomHow do I add a custom launcher to Unity 3D (Ubuntu 11.4) and have an icon for the launcher as well?06:41
bp0I removed overlay-scrollbar and restarted... but the scrollbars are still the new style06:41
sebsebsebtruepurple: no probably can't really help you much06:41
bp0what do I have to do to get the back to normal06:41
mertherpfifo, you did it buddy!  Thanks very much.  You're a life saver.06:41
pfifoVustom, just a shot in the dark, but try making it on the desktop and then dragging it to the panel06:41
nzashadowshould I upgrade to 11.04?06:42
plustax__Im having some trouble. I have xchat open. I clicked minimized and it looks like it closed it but it didnt.06:42
quentusrexAnyone able to help diagnose a KVM Bridged networking issue? I just upgraded the host to 11.04 and networking fails.06:42
truepurplesebsebseb: A particular place you can recommend for help?06:42
plustax__Now I have three xchats open and I cant find a window tasker06:42
plustax__running 11.0406:42
quentusrexit seems that the traffic gets to the host, but doesn't route properly.06:42
sebsebsebtruepurple: here,  #ubuntu-beginners or ubuntuforums06:42
plustax__Anyone help me out?06:42
bp0merther... /dev/disk/by-label/06:43
sebsebseb!anyone | plustax__06:43
ubottuplustax__: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.06:43
plustax__Now I have three xchats open and I cant find a window tasker06:43
plustax__Im having some trouble. I have xchat open. I clicked minimized and it looks like it closed it but it didnt.06:43
pfifoplustax__, firstly, go into xchat setting and disable the task bar icon. then killall -9 xchat, then start a new fresh copy06:43
Lesterwoodguys i need some help06:43
Avt_hi guys :)06:43
truepurplesebsebseb: Ok thanks, though this doesn't seem like a beginners problem. Any particular forum you would recommend?06:43
sebsebsebplustax__: oh nevermind you already had06:43
Lesterwoodi got this window "Debconf on user"06:43
Lesterwoodi got this window "Debconf on user"06:43
EddieHello there... I just had my computer crash when updating the new version... I try to boot but it telles me it cant mount the drive06:43
Lesterwoodit is asking configuring gruppc06:44
sebsebsebtruepurple: except ATI issues,  sure they can be complex to sort out, but they are a common problem beginners get as well with Ubuntu06:44
plustax__pfifo, I cant find the option to disable the taskbar icon06:44
bp0Lesterwood, everyone needs help... but that is a bug06:44
bp0one of many06:44
bp0dont hold your breath06:44
Avt_all the rooms I went to noone is talkin but I need to config monowall for a game06:44
jaymeskellerHi, how do I change the boot args in Grub2 under 10.10?06:44
Lesterwoodbp0, what should i do06:44
Nathan_anybody know anything about back track or rfid06:44
bp0curse and wave your arms in the air06:44
pfifoplustax__, alerts -> enable system tray icon06:44
zvacetplustax__: in unity it look like program is closed but if you look closer you will see something like arrow witch shows program is running06:44
dxdemetriouif the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 is completed can I repair it? After pressing OK it didn't make the cleanup process.06:45
Avt_bp0 thankyou for your delightfull response :) I will try that after im done eating hahahah06:45
Lesterwoodanyone, please?06:45
allowoverridewelp, 9.10 got farther that the 11.04 wubi06:45
plustax__okay I disabled the system tray icon06:45
Lesterwoodthanks in advance06:45
ZykoticK9jaymeskeller, see !grub2 but you probably want /etc/default/grub06:45
plustax__now how do I go in and manage the other two open ones and close them individually?06:45
allowoverridelooks good, going for reboot ;) apparently the new 11.04 wubi is hosed... someone advised buntu devs.06:45
allowoverridebbiab06:45
Eddiewhat can I do to recover ubuntu?06:45
dxdemetriouif the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 is completed with errors can I repair it? After pressing OK it didn't make the cleanup process. (sorry for the double post)06:45
beoyndcrhas any one tried gnome 3 yet?06:45
RoDiMuS-Xdxdemetrious: sudo apt-get autoremove06:46
bp0Lesterwood, thats a bug in ubuntu software center, there is nothing to do06:46
plustax__I notice I cant minimize windows at all with unity. They just disappear.06:46
Lesterwoodbp0, what option do you reccomend i choose06:46
plustax__Isn't there some sort of window management system?>06:46
zvacetEddie: what have you done to it06:46
linuxWhat are you doing?06:46
bp0Lesterwood, oh you have options? most times I see that windows it is just blank06:47
RoDiMuS-Xdxdemetriou: to fix broken packages: sudo apt-get install -f06:47
Lesterwoodbp0 the options are as follows06:47
Eddiezvacet: My computer froze during installation and I rebooted, not it says it can't find the drive06:47
Lesterwoodkeep the local version currently installed06:47
plustax__Isn't there some sort of window management system? I cant minimize anything without it disappearing completely. Sometimes still running like my xchat right now. There are three instances of it open06:47
Lesterwoodinstall package maintainers version06:47
Shaggy2OK so I have ubuntu 10.04 I have a nVidia gtx460 PCie card. ubuntu is not finding the drivers for it, where can I download the drivers for this card from?06:47
zvacetplustax__: they are signed as running with something like> or <06:47
Lesterwoodshow side by side diff06:48
Lesterwoodmerge06:48
Lesterwoodor shell06:48
RoDiMuS-XShaggy2: Nvidia.com06:48
plustax__xchat isnt signed as running right now zvacet and there are three open06:48
zvacetEddie: I don´t know about that sorry06:48
bp0Lesterwood, what pacakage?06:48
plustax__unity just has the icon there like always06:48
Lesterwoodbp0, what od you mean what package06:48
plustax__I dragged it there from my app tray to keep06:48
FunnyLookinHatIs there a way to get the Desktop Wall to be a single row of 4 viewports instead of a 2x2 square ?06:48
FunnyLookinHat(I'm trying to find it with CCSM Advanced, no dice)06:48
bp0Lesterwood, what package or file is it asking about? anyway, use the maintainer's version most likely, unless you remember editing that file yourself06:49
Lesterwoodi never modified it06:49
Lesterwoodi will take your word for it06:49
zvacetplustax__: this is all new so I don´t know what to  say it works for me but that is not answer to your question06:49
dxdemetriouRoDiMuS-X, it does not have any broken packages, just completed with errors without cleaning non-required packages, and the problem is that I can't find what package/s produced the problem.06:50
Avt_guys I cant get into #linux so is there another channel thats as active?06:50
Barridusok quick question guys :)  is desktop wallpaper like gone?06:50
RoDiMuS-Xdxdemetrow: you should run: sudo apt-get install -f then06:50
Lesterwoodbp0, if it corrupts my grub again06:50
Lesterwoodwhat can i do06:50
RoDiMuS-Xdxdemetrow: it should fix any errors06:50
Lesterwoodshould i simply insert a disk and reinstall06:50
Avt_anyone can help get me to a nix room06:51
RoDiMuS-Xdxdemetrow: then run: sudo apt-get autoremove to clean the packages06:51
plustaxokay im in xchat. the icon is not showing up in unity06:51
zvacetAvt_: witch distro do you use06:51
Avt_plustax im in xchat portable06:51
Shaggy2how do I exit Xserver?06:51
plustaxif I minimize it, it disappears and I click xchat again and it opens up a new one06:52
plustaxI want to be able to minimize it and come back to the same one06:52
aaron_waynedoes anyone know why i cant set chrome as my default borwser in natty?06:52
Avt_well I need to config my monowall firewall box for ut2004 in windows06:52
kssxsHi there... need help with a WUBI install that, on reboot into Ubuntu, is giving me a by-UUID <UUID> does not exist error06:52
ZykoticK9Shaggy2, "sudo service gdm stop" perhaps06:52
Avt_so you could say bsd06:52
kssxsand drops to shell06:52
kssxsi'm a newb at this06:52
* Lesterwood gently pokes bp0 06:52
plustaxwhat do I do can anyone help me please?06:52
VustomWhat's that Ubuntu torrent application with the blue raindrop logo? I forgot what it's called. :'(06:52
Shaggy2thank you06:53
vibhav<plustax> Yes06:53
Avt_zvacet thankyou for asking06:53
MitsukaruVustom: deluge06:53
vibhav<Vustom> Deluge06:53
plustaxvibhav, alright what do I do?06:53
VustomThanks!06:53
vibhav<plustax> What is the problem?06:53
jaymeskellerHi, last awnser was good, but now I'm having another problem. It seems like my ubuntu system has lost the normal theme, defaulting to GNOME's default. What could have happened to cause that?06:53
vibhav<plustax> What is the problem?06:54
plustaxvibhav, I have xchat open but it isnt showing up in unity. If I minimize it, I lose it. I click xchat again and instead of bringing me to this one, it opens up a new one.06:54
zvacetAvt_: why do n´t you try to join some bsd chanell06:54
VustomIs 11.4 called Natty? I forgot.06:54
VustomD:06:54
roasted_How can I adjust my brightness on my laptop? This laptop does not have any dedication function keys on the keyboard.06:54
Avt_I tryed to join #bsd but its invite only06:54
vibhav<plustax> send me some screen shots of it06:54
RoDiMuS-Xjaymeskeller: this happens to me all the time, I just log out and log back in and it usually fixes itself06:54
Blue1plustax: can you alt+tab to get to x-chat?06:54
jaymeskellerRoDiMuS-X: Thanks, I'll try it now.06:54
ZykoticK9!register > Avt_06:54
ubottuAvt_, please see my private message06:54
alkisgIs there any way to have synced "tasks" between Ubuntu and an android phone? Not necessarily evolution tasks, any app would do...06:55
vibhav<plustax> send me some screen shots of it06:55
pfifoyuskhanzab, keyboard is working fine for me, perhaps you should try purging wine and then reinstalling, somewhere along the way it looks like your keyboard layout got messed up06:55
ZykoticK9!natty > Vustom06:55
ubottuVustom, please see my private message06:55
yuskhanzabreinstall wine?06:55
VustomThank you. ;306:55
Barridusoy, where does evolution keep it's data now?  i don't see ~/.evolution/ in natty06:55
plustaxvibhav, I took a screenshot and put it in my dropbox public. But I right click and there is no option to grab a link to show you06:56
Avt_just give me your bottle of wine also :P06:56
zvacetAvt_:  did you tried specific channel like #freebsd #openbsd06:56
yuskhanzabwhat wine version do you use pfifo06:56
Avt_I will try that, thanx zvacet06:56
mah454Hello ...06:56
allowoverridehtml_inprogress: ok, can you assist, im at the grub after rebooting with wubi safely assist loading cd rom. i selected Ubuntu first menu, then pressed escape at nfts 0,0 screen, which now im i see bsimage loading,,, and its hanging.... im using 9.10 desktop cd which is now reinserted, however, i do not think it should be... since it downloaded to the hd a c:\Ubuntu dir with all the files it needs... 1. do i need to be in saf06:56
mah454can i enable compiz in unity desktop ?06:56
plustaxvibhav, pm06:56
Karen_mwith 11.04, how do you get into System->updates or System menu...06:56
VustomI think they should have done more work towards Unity before releasing it, seems as though they just ported it straight from the desktop version. :/06:57
pfifoyuskhanzab, 1.2.2, it came from the repos06:57
Karen_mi want to check my video drivers06:57
Mitsukaru(does anyone know how to organize the ubuntu launcher? there doesnt seem to be a good way to re-organize the order apps and stuff appear in...)06:57
Vustomnotebook version.*06:57
roasted_How can I adjust my brightness on my laptop? This laptop does not have any dedication function keys on the keyboard.06:57
RoDiMuS-Xmah454, its enabled by default if your video card supports it06:57
yuskhanzabim using the development ver 1.3.1806:57
mah454OK :)06:57
mah454tnx :)06:57
* Mitsukaru cant find any help information about ubuntu 11.04's launcher06:57
yuskhanzabpfifo,  im using the development ver 1.3.1806:57
kssxsanyone?06:57
Eddiezvacet: do you think reinstalling ubuntu would allow me to finish the upgrade without having to lose my files?06:57
vibhavkssxs Yes sir?06:58
kssxsneed help with a WUBI install that, on reboot into Ubuntu, is giving me a by-UUID <UUID> does not exist error06:58
Mitsukaruroasted_: if it's possible to adjust the brightness on your laptop you should be able to do it in the power settings in ubuntu06:58
kssxsand drops to shell06:58
kssxsi'm a newb at this06:58
zvacetEddie: if you reinstall you will erase your files if you don´t back them up06:58
pfifoyuskhanzab, you can still do a uninstall/reinstall06:58
kssxsplease and thanks :)06:58
yuskhanzabok,06:58
yuskhanzabill try06:58
roasted_Mitsukaru, I only have that option on AC power, not battery. :(06:59
pfifoyuskhanzab, it should mess with any settings and suhe in you home folder06:59
pfifoshouldn't06:59
Avt_its not workin for the bsd channel06:59
Avt_to join06:59
dxdemetriouwhere is the configuration for X now (xorg.conf)? Nvidia still uses xorg.conf.06:59
Mitsukaruwhy wouldnt your laptop have brightness buttons anyway o_O07:00
Blue1dxdemetriou: should be in /etc/X11/xorf.conf07:00
ZykoticK9Avt_, you need to register with Freenode, see the !register factoid (i already tried to send it to you)07:00
Blue1xorg.conf07:00
mobodoanyone can point me to a place where I can find what to do with my frozen UI un 11.04?  I can log in, but when I click on anything nothing happens.07:00
aaron_waynedoes anyone know why natty will not allow chromium as default browser?07:00
zvacetKaren_m: in unity task bar click on applications>that will open window and on the right click on all apps and you will see drop down menu07:00
aetarichey i'm on 11.04 and i can't get to gdm all i get is the failsafe window, the error in the log is, '(EE) NVIDIA(0): failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!'07:00
RoDiMuS-Xmobodo, what version07:01
vibhav<aaron_wayne> its not preinstalled07:01
pfifoaaron_wayne, it does, it just keeps saying its not07:01
ZykoticK9dxdemetriou, "sudo nvidia-xconfig" would generate one (at least pre-11.04)07:01
mobodoRoDiMuS-X: just upgraded to 11.0407:01
Avt_I got the register pm07:01
RoDiMuS-Xmobodo, desktop that is, are you using Ubuntu Classic or Unity07:01
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jlaaetaric: install/reinstall nvidia-current; note if it says it makes the kernel module or not07:01
Lesterwoodoh my god07:01
LesterwoodOH MY GOD07:01
Lesterwoodwhere is my bottom taskbar07:02
LesterwoodWHERE07:02
Blue1RoDiMuS-X: upgrades are problematic - suggest backing up /home/ and /etc/ and then doing a fresh install07:02
FloodBot1Lesterwood: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:02
mobodoRoDiMuS-X: Unity.  Classic doesn't load anything - I just get a background image and no menu/icon, so it's useless07:02
aetaricjla, ok07:02
Lesterwoodguys where is the taskbar in 11.0407:02
Lesterwoodor does it no longer exist07:02
jlaLesterwood: log out, choose classic, log in07:02
Blue1Lesterwood: I coldn't find it in unity.07:02
Lesterwoodso... how do i view all running tasks then07:02
immyslhi guys07:02
Blue1Lesterwood: ps -ef07:02
Lesterwoodwat07:03
Lesterwoodtype it into a terminal?07:03
Blue1or ps - u [username]07:03
jlaLesterwood: running programs have an > by them in unity07:03
RoDiMuS-Xmobodo, you could always clear out your profile folders07:03
Lesterwood:|07:03
mobodoRoDiMuS-X: did that already07:03
Karen_mi actually like unity!07:03
Karen_mUNITE07:03
ZykoticK9Lesterwood, follow the logout / classic option to get a more familiar UI07:03
Karen_mzvacet, thanks for that..07:03
aetaricjla, DKMS Install Completed07:03
RoDiMuS-Xmobodo, hmmm07:03
Blue1i crashed unity on the livecd in 3 minutes w/o trying to do so.07:04
ZykoticK9Blue1, very common07:04
jlaaetaric: try reboot and cross fingers then. I had to install the right linux headers07:04
mobodoRoDiMuS-X: ok, classic with no effect works07:04
dxdemetriouunity does not show anything, just the background..07:04
zvacetKaren_m: yw    :)07:04
immysli'm experiencing graphic corruption. using intel integrated graphics. any idea why this happens?07:04
LesterwoodZykoticK9, i want to learn to use unity07:04
Lesterwoodalt tab seems to work07:04
mobodoI guess it's time I upgrade my graphics card :P07:04
RoDiMuS-Xmobodo, What video driver are you using07:04
aetaricjla, i had a custom kernel on 10.10 and it's been fighting me all day07:04
ZykoticK9Lesterwood, well forget the bottom panel ;)07:04
Lesterwoodi see07:05
aetaricfinally removed it and now no X11 QQ07:05
loworbitHi all, is this a good place to ask a question about 11.04?07:05
aetaricloworbit, sure07:05
RoDiMuS-Xloworbit, the best07:05
Blue1loworbit: depends on question07:05
Lesterwoodhow do i add the temp monitor and cpu usage indicators07:05
plustaxI need help. I have xchat open right now, and it isn't showing up in unity to my left. So if I minimize xchat, I can't find it. Ill click the xchat icon again and instead of bringing me back to my current session, it opens up a new one. There doesn't seem to be any window management that I can see. Also, I have dropbox. I open the dropbox folder and right click a file I want to share, and there doesn't seem to be an option to share a link with07:05
plustaxsomeone. Defeats the purpose of having dropbox! Anyone help me out?07:05
Lesterwoodto my taskbar?07:05
Ubuntu_userLAcan:  Hi dear, i have now installed ubuntu and i am on windows, how do i add entries using easyBCD07:06
mobodoRoDiMuS-X: it says "version current", "activated but not currently in use"07:06
Blue1plustax: and what happened when you tried alt+tab?07:06
Karen_mTHE WIRELESS IN 11.04 ACTUALLY WORKS, yay ya ya ya yayayayayayaya\07:06
Shaggy2I was told that there is a way to force a GTX460 SE to handle 3 displays, it's an application that needs to be installed, does anyone know about it?07:06
plustaxblue1 alt+tab works.07:06
plustaxBut isnt there any sort of visual app I can use?07:06
VustomIs there an application out there that lets you Right-click an application, let's say Minecraft.jar, and theres an option to create minecraft.desktop with all the information I need inside of that file to drag it into Unity?07:06
RoDiMuS-Xmobodo, ahh07:06
quentusrexAnyone know how to diagnose a network routing issue? I have a KVM host and the guest is not able to contact the network.07:06
Lopyshokpeople hi< help me install dota!!!!!!))))))))))))))))))))))))))07:06
loworbitGreat :)  I have set up ruby on rails for development.  When I start the server via 'rails s' it start fine.  However when i hit Ctrl-C it does not kill the server as expected?07:06
gpi can play dota with wine07:06
RoDiMuS-Xmobodo, i can't remember how I fixed that one07:06
plustaxblue1 what about my dropbox problem?07:07
Blue1plustax: I opened up a terminal window, then firefox (off of livecd) and only way I could find any running task, was alt+tab in unity.  shortly after that, the system crashed.07:07
quentusrexI had the KVm host and guest working before the host was upgraded to 11.04, now something is wrong with routing.07:07
RoDiMuS-Xmobodo, I think I just rebooted but I am sure you already tried that07:07
gpanyone can help me to join ubuntu help channel?07:07
jlaloworbit: does it fork away from the console? might need to kill <pid>07:07
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gpwhat is the name?07:07
Blue1plustax: sorry explain dropbox issues again?07:07
Byanwas the xorg.conf moved recently?07:07
mobodoRoDiMuS-X: version is 270.41.0607:07
Byanwhere is it now..07:07
loworbitjla: Not sure.  I do know that on 10.10 I was able to Ctrl-C to kill07:07
plustaxI open the dropbox folder and go to select a file. I right click to try and grab a public link to share the file and there is no option to do so blue107:07
zvacetgp: you are part of it right now07:07
pfifo!details | gp07:07
ubottugp: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."07:08
ZykoticK9Byan, /etc/X11 - but it's not there by default07:08
atlefgp, you are in the ubuntu help channel now07:08
dxdemetriouI have Ubuntu with sequential updates from Breezy 5.10. Maybe it's time to make a fresh install.07:08
immyslthanks ubottu.07:08
allowoverridehtml_inprogress: ok, can you assist, im at the grub after rebooting with wubi safely assist loading cd rom. i selected Ubuntu first menu, then pressed escape at nfts 0,0 screen, which now im i see bsimage loading,,, and its hanging.... im using 9.10 desktop cd which is now reinserted, however, i do not think it should be... since it downloaded to the hd a c:\Ubuntu dir with all the files it needs... 1. do i need to be in saf07:08
Lorthirkgood morning... fresh installation of natty, but microphone not working anymore. was ok with 10.10. how to fix?07:08
Blue1plustax: ru using unity or gnome?  don/t know if you are using unity.07:08
usalabswow, I just upgraded from Meerkat to 11.04, and even though there's a new interface, where do I find admin access?, such as 'Services'. startup programs' etc etc?07:08
Lesterwoodcan you add panels in unity07:08
gpi wanted to know the difference between FGLRX driver and the driver i downloaded from ATI website07:08
plustaxblue1 im running unity07:08
Lesterwoodor should i just go back to gnome07:08
Blue1usalabs: the magnifying glass with the + sign07:09
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Blue1plustax: sorry dunno07:09
aetaricjla, great now i'm stuck in memtest...07:09
usalabsor system monitor07:09
zvacetdxdemetriou: why if is working correctly07:09
ZykoticK9Lesterwood, i don't think you can customize Unity very much.  Good luck.07:09
kssxscan anyone help with a WUBI install issue?07:09
bp0Lesterwood, no panels or panel applets in unity, they have "indicators" only07:09
jlausalabs: click power icon > system ssettings07:09
Lesterwood:|07:09
Lesterwoodwhy does this feel like mac osx07:09
ByanZykoticK9: hrm, how do I create a default conf? the dpkg-reconfigure command I executed didn't work07:09
usalabshehehe, ok, thanks07:09
Ubuntu_useranybody who knows how to add Ubuntu entries in boot loader of windows using EasyBCD?07:09
Blue1Lesterwood: ask mr. shuttleworth, sir.07:09
bp0Lesterwood, thats what they're going for07:09
jlaLesterwood: because menus are at the top. I like it.07:10
skurakaiHi. I have trouble with setting default  OS (booting) in Ubuntu 11.04. Old setting doesnt work same as Startup-Manager.07:10
SikWell, managed to get Ubuntu to finally boot properly by installing the nvidia 137 drivers o_o; But why not even the built-in VESA drivers work properly? (trying to boot with those makes the monitor shut down...) I'm curious now07:10
ZykoticK9Byan, you need to stop GDM then run "sudo X --configure" then copy the generated xorg.conf.FOO (in /root) to the proper location07:10
vibhav!vibhav | screenshots07:10
vibhav!vibhav | flood07:10
gpi wanted to know the difference between FGLRX driver and the driver i downloaded from ATI website07:10
dxdemetriouzvacet, I see a lot of warnings/errors in each new release and I have to choose if it's better the troubleshooting or rebuilding.07:11
ByanZykoticK9: why do i need to stop gdm..07:11
zvacetbp0: off-topic but this will be mac for poor people07:11
skurakaino one have same problem with booting?07:11
usalabsalso, when grub starts, my monitor shows frequency out of range, how do I fix it?07:11
ZykoticK9Byan, i'm done.  Good luck.07:11
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vibhav<skurakai> no one have same problem with booting?07:11
vibhav<usalabs> also, when grub starts, my monitor shows frequency out of range, how do I fix it?07:11
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vibhav<ZykoticK9> Byan, i'm done.  Good luck.07:11
FloodBot1vibhav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:11
zvacetdxdemetriou: go for fresh install then07:11
dxdemetriouzvacet, the latest is that I have the unity with background only.07:11
GatoratdeHi, I'm having problems installing ubuntu 11.04 as a dual boot on my friends' computer.07:12
ByanZykoticK9: apparently --configure isn't a option of X..07:12
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Byanan07:12
kssxscan anyone help with a WUBI install issue, please?07:12
Shaggy2I was told that there is a way to force a GTX460 SE to handle 3 displays, it's an application that needs to be installed, does anyone know about it?07:12
GatoratdeWHen running wubi, it complains about having no hard disk inserted.07:12
Logan_!away >SudoGhost07:12
ubottuSudoGhost, please see my private message07:12
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atlef!ask | kssxs07:13
ubottukssxs: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)07:13
ByanXorg --configure07:13
ByanI suppose you meant07:13
plustaxAlright I need help with something. I have a file in my dropbox that I want to share with someone. I click the icon in the tray in the upper right. I go into my public folder and right click the file I want to share. There is no menu option there for me to get a public link so that I may share the file. Any idea what the issue could be?07:13
Ubuntu_useranybody who knows how to add Ubuntu entries in boot loader of windows using EasyBCD?07:13
Byanno, hrm07:13
ZykoticK9Byan, sorry yes Xorg07:13
zvacetdxdemetriou: after years of using ubuntu you don´t need my advice but fresh install look like best option07:13
kssxslol07:13
kssxsalright07:13
GatoratdeI simply click continue till I get through the installer. I reeboot, and it just spits out grub and a list of commands07:13
kssxsneed help with a WUBI install that, on reboot into Ubuntu, is giving me a by-UUID <UUID> does not exist error07:13
kssxsand drops to shell07:13
nzashadowhas anyone tried config fusion?07:13
kssxsi'm a newb at this07:13
kssxsplease and thanks :)07:13
FloodBot1kssxs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:13
skurakaiI have trouble with setting default  OS (booting) in Ubuntu 11.04. Old setting doesnt work same as Startup-Manager.07:13
ZykoticK9Byan, no, it is X --configure07:13
sivauhelo07:13
sivau<sivau> can any1 help me pls...am trying to install ubuntu 11.04 ,it says No detected operating system,07:13
sivau<sivau> i want a duel boot with win707:13
sivau<sivau> i have 2 disk partions07:13
FloodBot1sivau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:14
GatoratdeI know that my friend did have boot manager software intalled .07:14
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EddieIs there a way to continue the upgrade after your system crashes07:14
usalabsanyone know how to fix the frequency out of range shown during grub07:14
Ubuntu_usersivau: I also have same problem since 110.1007:14
Ubuntu_usersivau: 10.1007:14
ZykoticK9Ubuntu_user, 110.10 - what that's a WAY future version ;)07:14
sivauhow to get rid of this,since i wish to keep win 707:15
Ubuntu_userZykoticK9:  i corrected that, but i am gonna make that soon07:15
Braiamsivau: did you shutdown win7 in the proper wa07:15
Gatoratdehelp?07:15
sivauyes sir07:15
Ubuntu_usersivau:  its a problem with GRUB07:15
sivaund am running from usb07:15
Logan_!please | Gatoratde07:16
ubottuGatoratde: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude07:16
vibhav<quentusrex> I recommend using VirtualBox07:16
Gatoratdeok.07:16
vibhav!flood | vibhav07:16
ubottuvibhav, please see my private message07:16
Gatoratde!additude07:16
kssxsbleh07:16
Gatoratde?07:16
quentusrexI already use virtualbox, but against kvm? not a chance for production.07:16
drhydraliskAfter a fresh install my headphones worked fine (auto switched to proper output) but when I restart my headphones are not recognized anymore (I did another fresh install without changing a single thing, just restarting and it still happened), any help?07:16
Gatoratde!repeat07:16
sivauhow to fix the grub problm?07:16
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/07:16
vibhav!language | vibhav07:16
Lesterwooduh07:17
ByanZykoticK9: no, it's -configure not --configure, I see now07:17
Lesterwoodsorry guys07:17
Gatoratdeok07:17
Byananyway07:17
Lesterwoodthe new update07:17
Lesterwood..07:17
Byanit failed =/07:17
vibhav!about | vibhav07:17
Lesterwoodthe new update convinced me to switch to debian07:17
Logan_Gatoratde: it's attitude, not additude ;)07:17
vibhav!cowsay | vibhav07:17
Lesterwoodthe new bloat is a the last straw for me07:17
Logan_!msg the bot | vibhav07:17
ubottuvibhav: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".07:17
Ubuntu_userLAcan:  Hi dear, i have now installed ubuntu and i am on windows, how do i add entries using easyBCD07:18
hasek79if i upgrade to ubuntu 11 will it screw up my osx theme that i have with 10.10?07:19
Lesterwoodhasek79,07:19
Lesterwoodunity is osx07:19
Gatoratdeubuntu_user, i have the same problem07:19
pfifohasek79, 99% sure it will07:19
Ubuntu_userOkay can anybody tell me form which file or drive does ubuntu load. 1. swap 2. / 3. /home07:19
hasek79damn07:19
Lesterwoodif you like osx theme you will like unity07:20
hasek79i was wanting to upgade07:20
Logan_Lesterwood: No, it is not OS X.  Do not misinform users.07:20
ZykoticK9Ubuntu_user, /etc/fstab07:20
Ubuntu_userGatoratde:  it can be solved if we are able to add ubuntu entries in windows bootloader using easy bcd07:20
Gatoratdehow do I do that?07:20
Lesterwoodi see 11.04 works even less with amd/ati drivers07:20
Ubuntu_userGatoratde:  i am investigatigating it, just hold on07:21
Lesterwoodoh well, ati/amd always sucked with drivers07:21
Gatoratdeok thanks07:21
Strykerhow do i add applets in unity?07:21
taglassLesterwood: I have no trouble with fglrx or the oss drivers in 11.0407:21
Lesterwoodtaglass, it might just be me, but things seem to render slower07:21
Lesterwoodlike, new windows maximizing and stuff07:22
Lesterwoodmaybe it is just me07:22
sivauno detected operating sytem while installing 11.04???07:22
hasanhe07:22
hasanhii07:22
Ubuntu_userZykoticK9:  okay so if i have to add entry for bootloader which dive i am gonna use07:22
Strykerwhere is the dev channel07:22
hasanping07:22
hasanping07:22
linuxping?07:22
taglasspong07:23
hasancan anyone help me07:23
hasan?07:23
taglass!ask | hasan07:23
ubottuhasan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)07:23
Stryker!flood|hasan07:23
ubottuhasan: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:23
Lesterwoodubuntu should have a folder for windows files, so wine will run smootly07:23
Lesterwoodit will not be legal07:23
ZykoticK9Ubuntu_user, drive?  if your the one asking about the windows bootloader BCE (whatever) I have no idea.  Linux doesn't use drive letters.07:23
Lesterwoodso it will be "do at your own risk"07:23
Jordan_U!ot | Lesterwood07:23
ubottuLesterwood: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:23
Lesterwoodimagine it, windows applicaitions running fine on ubuntu07:23
truepurple I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?07:23
Lesterwoodsorry07:23
Jordan_UUbuntu_user: It's much easier to have grub load Windows' bootloader than visa-versa. Why do you want to do this?07:24
vibhav<truepurple> you used my method?07:24
truepurplevibhav: I never found out what your method would install, so no07:24
Stryker!dev|me07:25
ubottume: Interested in becoming an Ubuntu Developer? Get started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment07:25
Stryker!natty07:25
ubottuUbuntu 11.04 (Natty Narwhal) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/110407:25
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Lesterwoodah yes what happened to my temp monitor panel07:25
Lesterwoodsomeone explain07:25
Strykerno way! Natty is mainstream now!>07:25
vibhav<truepurple> lemme see07:25
Strykeri was just alpha testing it a month ago07:26
sivauhelo07:26
sivau<sivau> can any1 help me pls...am trying to install ubuntu 11.04 ,it says No detected operating system,07:26
sivau<sivau> i want a duel boot with win707:26
sivau<sivau> i have 2 disk partions07:26
FloodBot1sivau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:26
Jordan_UGatoratde: Ubuntu_user: I would recommend installing normally by booting from the install CD rather than using wubi.07:26
taglassa month ago is forever when you have 6 month dev cycles :)07:26
MrMassiveManMeatbye all07:26
Jordan_Usivau: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?07:26
ByanStryker: releases are on a schedule.. shouldn't be surprising..07:26
Strykerhow do i add applets to a panel in unity07:26
StrykerByan, I didn't think unity was ready for release, but they have released it...07:27
truepurplevibhav: Open source or proprietary, and if the latter, autoupdate or not?07:27
beoyndcrI am really really trying to like unity but I think unless big changes are made it might fail07:28
Strykeri agree, beoyndcr07:28
sivau@jordan:ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l07:28
sivauError: Invalid partition table on /dev/sda -- wrong signature 0.07:28
sivauIgnore/Cancel? ^C07:28
sivauModel: Imation Nano Pro (scsi)07:28
sivauDisk /dev/sdb: 4060MB07:28
sivauSector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B07:28
FloodBot1sivau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:28
ZykoticK9beoyndcr, Stryker there are other distros out there07:28
Ubuntu_user_so if i have to add entries of ubuntu using EasyBCD i get three options of drives what i do one is swap dive other is home and third is root. any suggestions please?07:29
vibhav<truepurple> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601165/07:29
ubuntu#07:29
ileai instaled slitaz on a old computer and i cant make the pppoe work after i put in username and pasword i click start and nothing hapens07:29
ileasome help if someone knows07:29
spikebikebeoyndcr: heh, fedora and ubuntu have all head big changes like this several times07:29
Jordan_U!pastebin | sivau07:29
ubottusivau: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.07:29
spikebikeoops, s/head/had/07:29
beoyndcrspikebike I know I just hope it comes together I really want to like this07:30
sivauam sorry am a newbee07:30
truepurplevibhav: Yes I have those instructions from before, but what are they instructions of? What would it install if those instructions work?07:30
spikebikebeoyndcr: I was awkward at first, but unity is growing on me.07:30
Logan_spikebike: how does your awkwardness affect Unity? :P07:30
Strykerso if you know how to use it, how do u add applets to a panel?07:30
beoyndcrspikebike i think my biggest thing is trying to keep track of running windows07:30
spikebikeheh oops07:30
vibhav<truepurple> they are instructions for Installing proprietary ATI or NVIDIA video drivers for Ubuntu07:31
trihopeanybody able to help me fix unity? I was trying to setup compiz fusion and accidentally disabled unity wall, lost panel and launcher.07:31
spikebikebeoyndcr: I kinda like that for instance if you click on the terminal icon all the terminals come to the front07:31
trihopejust upgraded to 11.04 tonight, and i'm a noob07:31
vibhav<trihope> Whats the problem?07:31
spikebiketrihope: mkdir backup and mv all your .* files to backup07:31
Jordan_Usivau: It looks like your partition table is invalid.07:32
Logan_!noob | trihope07:32
ubottutrihope: Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.07:32
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beoyndcrSpikebike, yes but it kinda gets in the way when you have 1 app running then 3 instances of term running and all the terms come up at once things get mixed up07:32
trihopeLogan_: sorry, didn't know as evident by the word07:32
Logan_heh07:33
spikebikeLogan_: heh, weird, he was self describing not insulting someone07:33
pfifo"period"07:33
spikebikelame07:33
crlcan81honestly I know one thing that doesn't work too well on 11.04, at least not for me. Alltray.07:33
Logan_spikebike: calling yourself one is prohibited as well ;)07:33
beoyndcrspikebike but i guess its just still young they will probably have things worked out by 11.1007:33
Strykerhe shown that he was new to ubuntu, I think it shall not be punishable when self inflicting or proving a statement en verbatim07:34
sivaujordan: how can i fix it07:34
crlcan81I already altered the necessary configuration in unity's desktop setup for everything to be visible in the notification tray that needs be07:34
trihopespikebike: not sure exactly how to do that. I'm actually on my win 7 boot.  everytime i booted into ubuntu i just had my desktop and didn't know how to open anything07:34
spikebikepretty strange to ban just a neutral word07:34
crlcan81luckily for me I still have cairo dock as well.07:34
winberstudy is the best way to use Ubuntu07:34
Strykerhow do i add applets in unity?07:35
VustomI'm trying to use a launcher to launch minecraft.jar, and I just put this as the command in the launcher "/home/vustom/Vustom/Ubuntu/Games/minecraft.jar" without the quotes, but when I try to open Minecraft using the launcher it doesn't work?07:35
vibhav<Vustom> displays an security error right?07:35
taglassVustom: try java -jar /home/vustom/Vustom/Ubuntu/Games/minecraft.jar07:35
vibhav<Vustom> displays a security error right?07:35
pfifoVustom, you need to java Minecraft.jar07:35
spikebikeVustom: try replacing that with java -jar (jar file path)07:35
Vustomso.. "java -jar /home/vustom/Vustom/Ubuntu/Games/minecraft.jar"?07:36
spikebikeya07:36
spikebikeif that doesn't work try /usr/bin/java07:36
Jordan_Usivau: If you don't use my full nick, Jordan_U, your messages to me won't be highlighed in my client so I'm likely to miss them.07:36
Lopyshokhelp open flash card ;)07:36
Jordan_U!tab | sivau07:36
ubottusivau: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.07:36
spikebikenot sure if the launcher respects path07:36
VustomThat worked, thanks. ;307:36
beoyndcrAll i have to say is unity looks and works alot better than stock gnome shell07:37
VustomUnity is actually pretty cool once you fix it all up to suit your style. :D07:37
spikebikebeoyndcr: use a mac much?07:37
beoyndcrI hate mac07:37
truepurplevibhav: The type that autoupdate and are easy to clear out?07:37
haroonhow I can add system monitor applet in unity 11.0407:37
spikebikebeoyndcr: I take that as a no07:37
vibhav<truepurple> ya07:37
sivauJordan_U, ok derat thanx07:37
beoyndcrbut the new ipad isnot bad07:37
winbermaybe07:38
sivauJordan_U, how to fix that problm dear07:38
spikebikeI used a mac a year or two ago and the new unity seems VERY VERY similar to what I remember07:38
haroonhow I can add gnome applets in 11.0407:38
vibhav<haroon> No support for applets in 11.0407:38
vibhav<haroon> But you can use gdesklets07:38
beoyndcrI dont think they have launcher yet07:38
VustomOne last thing, I've removed Evolution and installed Thunderbird, I've installed the thunderbird applicator but it only shows up within that mail icon when it's already launched, how can I add a link there to launch Thunderbird like there is for Pidgin?07:39
winberyeah, i think ubuntu is the similar with macos07:39
Jordan_Usivau: Run "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" and pastebin the output. It will bring up a new prompt, don't type anything further untill I tell you to.07:39
Jordan_U!ot | spikebike winber07:39
ubottuspikebike winber: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!07:39
spikebikeJordan_U: discussing the osx docs vs unity dock is ot?07:40
haroonis there any way add custom panels (like 10.04 allow us to add four panels) and can I customize it07:40
lumbertGetting an error when trying to do a live session of ubuntu 11.04. ||initramfs||  using the same usb stick earlier today on another machine worked fine, this is an x64 compatible machine07:40
Jordan_Uspikebike: Yes. This is an Ubuntu support channel, not an Ubuntu discussion channel.07:40
pfifolumbert, what is the error07:40
Ubuntu_user_how do you access terminal or other system settings in 1.04 unity view without changing to classic07:40
winberOK~07:40
MK``!Oneiric07:40
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 (Oneiric Ocelot) will be the fifteenth release of Ubuntu.  Codename announcement here: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/?p=64607:40
pfifoUbuntu_user_, terminal is in apps, "gnome-terminal" setting are in the logout button07:41
zvacetspikebike: yes,because that doesn´t help any body  :)07:41
lumbertis there error logged anywhere? it just references initramfs, busybox 1.17 and something about live..07:41
haroonI am just facing issue on wifi is disabled I search alot and add broad com and b43 driver but no change07:41
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linuxgnibbles game07:41
winberok i will change to there, thx07:41
Ubuntu_user_ohh.....and apps like gparted etc07:41
AbuMaiaIs anyone else seeing Banshee not showing as active in the Unity launcher while running?07:42
pfifolumbert, at that point in the boot process, everything is logged to the screen07:42
vibhavI have a problem .. where is the ire effect availble in compiz?07:42
vibhavI have a problem .. where is the fire effect availble in compiz?07:42
Jordan_U!ccsm | vibhav07:42
ubottuvibhav: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz07:42
lumbertso nothing was written to my flash drive?07:42
vibhavno but there is no fire effect only watter effect in compiz Jordan_U07:43
Logan_vibhav: I saw that as well.  They must have removed that effect.07:43
Strykerthere is a fire effect vibhav07:43
pfifolumbert, no it wont write boot error logs to your flash drive07:43
Strykeroh, they removed it?07:43
AbuMaiavibhav: it may be a separate plugin07:43
Jordan_Uvibhav: Fire is likely in the compiz-plugins-extra package.07:43
sivauJordan_U, done07:43
Strykeri used compiz when it wasn't called compiz07:43
sivaupasted07:44
vibhav<Jordan_U> installling that package...07:44
taglassStryker: I have compiz on vinyl07:44
Strykersivau, what is the link?07:44
Shaggy2how do I install xinerama?07:44
lumbertpfifo, is what i mentioned enough information?07:44
Jordan_Usivau: Please post the pastebin URL here.07:44
pfifolumbert, "something about live" is not07:45
Logan_!xinerama | Shaggy207:45
ubottuShaggy2: xinerama is an extension to !X to use two or more physical displays as one large virtual display. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XineramaHowTo - See also !DualHead07:45
vibhav<Jordan_U> Installed that package , where do i get the fire??07:45
Strykertaglass, i got beryl on my 1st gen tape dirve07:45
sivauStryker, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601167/07:45
crlcan81how does one go about customizing the menu buttons, the close program, minimize, maximize ones? I don't like em on  the left, or those style buttons.07:45
vibhav<Jordan_U> Installed that package , where do i get the fire??07:45
vibhav<Jordan_U> Installed that package (compiz-plugins-extra) , where do i get the fire??07:45
sivauJordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601167/07:46
Jordan_Uvibhav: I saw your question the first time (and second, and third...) . Please don't repeat yourself.07:46
vibhavok07:46
vibhavJordan_U then tell me how?07:47
Jordan_Uvibhav: Please be patient. I'm trying to help multiple people at once right now.07:47
HawkEye234Hey, how do I access the files on a disc on a ubuntu server?07:48
zvacetvibhav: type ccsm and then start looking for fire effect07:48
lumbertbleh, is it possible for me to get it to write the text output on the screen to a file, i can't find anything to write with ;\07:48
Jordan_Usivau: Do you have good backups of all your data?07:48
FREDDYPHEY I AM USING 10.04. EVERY OTHER WEEK MY FILE SYSTEM BECOMES CORRUPT. STUFF VITAL TO BOOTING UBUNTU. WHY IS IT DOING THIS07:48
HawkEye234What is the path to the disc drive on a ubuntu server?07:48
Jordan_U!caps | FREDDYP07:48
ubottuFREDDYP: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.07:48
taglasslumbert: digital camera?07:49
pfifolumbert, unfortunatly no07:49
FREDDYPok07:49
lumberti thought of that, my phone camera is shite, i'll try though07:49
lumbertbrb, thanks07:49
sivauJordan_U, u mean win 7backup? no dear07:49
zubair_is it monitor possible monitor system ram cpu usage and other system states in top panel07:49
zubair_11.0407:49
Jordan_UFREDDYP: What happens when you try to boot? Have you checked the drive's S.M.A.R.T status?07:49
Jordan_Usivau: You should always have backups, no matter what you're doing.07:50
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FREDDYPit varies. on the last time it complained about a font missing. before that i think it was could not mount or find errors, but not related to a font.07:50
FREDDYPi don't delete nothing myself07:50
HawkEye234How do I copy the files from a disc into my local folder on ubuntu server?07:51
virgilivsi just tried upgrading from to 11.04. the upgrade failed. it froze. Is there any way to resume or restart the installation? It died at configuring udisks07:51
sivauJordan_U, i dont mind losing data from c drive, but iwant keep data of d drive07:51
sivauand i dont wan to lose win 7 too07:52
Shaggy2how do I get my 5.1 speakers to work in ubuntu 10.0407:52
Jordan_Usivau: I am 95% sure that typing 'w' at the current prompt in your terminal will fix your problem, but there is a chance that you're getting the error because you're using something I'm not familiar with, like Windows Dynamic Disks.07:52
genupulasvirgilivs:  i think even though u abort the upgrade if u start again then it will continue fromwhere its stopped ....just retsart the system07:52
Shaggy2more to the point of my onboard sound card that supports 5.1 and seperate the front panel to look like a second card07:52
sivauJordan_U,  shal i type w?07:53
MACscrhow can i upgrade to natty without having all of my third party ppa's being updated as well? My update keeps failing because some of them dont have natty repo's07:53
jiohdiMACscr: copy them to a file and remove them until after the upgrade, then just pop them back in07:53
virgilivsgenupulas: I didn't abort it though. The kernel panicked, the display and peripherals froze, and I manually turned off the machine. It's running 11.04 now as if everything is fine07:53
crlcan81most of those ones, I really didn't need.07:54
virgilivsgenupulas: but everything is NOT fine because it didn't complete installation.07:54
zvacetMACscr: you have to disable all third party repos before upgrade07:54
Jordan_Usivau: It's your decision. If you have another drive (not just another partition) you can save a backup copy of your partition table and you should be able to restore it if anything goes wrong.07:54
MACscrzvacet: quick way to do that?07:54
jiohdiMACscr: in synaptic under repositories07:54
crlcan81I don't know if I missed it but did someone mention how to alter those three buttons in natty, or is there a way?07:54
sivauJordan_U,  done"the partition table has been altered"..wats next step?07:55
yigaldoes anyone use vim and has just installed 11.04?  I don't have syntax highlighting and I was wondering if anyone has/had a similar issue, or or fixed this?07:55
zvacetMACscr: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  put # in front of ppa lines save and close  sudo apt-get update07:55
lumbertpfifo; http://i.imgur.com/e87dW.jpg07:55
Jordan_Usivau: Pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" again. You should get no error this time, and the installer should recognise your current partitions.07:55
virgilivsyigal: its because you consented to let it overrwrite your vimrc file07:56
MACscrzvacet: how is it that there are repos that i have though that arent in there07:56
jiohdiMACscr: in synaptic you just need to uncheck them and you can recheck them later07:56
yigalvirgilivs: no that's not what happened07:56
yigalvirgilivs: I still have my vimrc file07:56
virgilivsmaybe it installed another one that has higher priority in your environment07:56
taglassyigal: try installing vim-gnome or just vim  The vim that ships by default is pretty stripped down07:57
yigalvirgilivs: no because even manually :syn on fails07:57
pfifolumbert, what filesystem is on the USB?07:57
sakuramboois there any way to separate the unity menu? in gnome 2.x, i had sub folders for my games and would like to keep them, instead of just having one giant list07:57
sivauJordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601175/07:57
yigaltaglass: I know, but I have both installed07:57
lumbertfat3207:58
yigaltaglass: there is no vim-full in 11.04 which I find interesting07:58
virgilivsdamn it... why did I upgrade just to have these stupid new panels imposed on me07:58
truepurplevibhav: Can you source these instructions for me? I need to be able to determine if I can trust them07:58
crlcan81sakuramboo: I use cairo dock as a secondary panel setup, lets me do that.07:58
jiohdivirgilivs: you can change to classic or some other desktop07:58
crlcan81That was my original 'panel' replacement, in gnome enviroment, and it still works in unity.07:58
virgilivsjiohdi: do you have any idea how to re-upgrade? Mine did not compelte.07:58
sakuramboocrlcan81: well, see, thats the problem, i have over 50 games, hense why i separated them by genre07:59
crlcan81... that's what cairodock does07:59
crlcan81it uses the OLD style menu07:59
crlcan81with genre seperation07:59
crlcan81I've got .. 133 at least.07:59
crlcan81including emulators07:59
FloodBot1crlcan81: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:59
jiohdivirgilivs: first try sudo apt-get install -f to resolve any hanging issues and then apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade07:59
sivauJordan_U, shalli try installing now08:00
Jordan_Usivau: Yes.08:00
virgilivsjiohdi: thnaks, I'll try08:00
pfifolumbert, how did you make the USB?08:00
sakuramboobut, no way to do it with the unity menu? i actually like the unity menu and would like to utilize it08:00
lumberttool shown on ubuntu's site, let me find the name08:01
sivauJordan_U,  appreciated,thax u so much 4 ur help.may god bless u brother08:01
Jordan_Usivau: You're welcome.08:01
lumbertUniversal-USB-Installer-1.8.4.4.exe08:01
ubunto904Hi~08:01
crlcan81As far as I know, no, but I've not used it as long as others. Just started about 4 or so hours ago, if that.08:01
laughtripi just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.x yesterday and since then my box is unable to mount my data drive (i have an os drive and a separate 1 TB data drive). i got the "bad geometry" error. i have not found any relevant solutions in google or ubuntu's site. anyone know what i should do?08:01
jiohdipfifo: you might also look for unetbooten08:02
crlcan81I already knew that something like this was coming with unity, so I kept cairo the way I liked and kept the conf files for that and grub.08:02
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sakuramboocrlcan81: same here, just started playing with it an hour ago, still reinstalling all packages that didnt make it in the upgrade08:03
Jordan_Ulaughtrip: Can you try mounting the partition manually and pastebin the exact error message?08:03
crlcan81Most of the packages that didn't come with the upgrade haven't been an issue with me, yet, sakuramboo08:03
adzyanyone know how i make my VM fullscreen?08:03
ranjithsijihai08:04
adzyi downloaded vmware tools but notsure how to install them08:04
pfifolumbert, do you have a linux system available to you to follow linux based how to's for making bootable USBs?08:04
sakuramboocrlcan81: well, some graphics and development packages i need and didnt make it, so yeah, theres a lot of packages that need to be reinstalled08:04
lumbertyes08:04
DirtyDawgadzy: if its vmware if i recall correctly, when inside the vm do ctrl-alt-enter08:04
lumbertbut the drive worked in another machine earlier today08:04
sakuramboobut, i had to do this with every version, so i wrote a script that handled adding the PPAs and installing all packages for me08:05
virgilivsjiohdi: it told me to run dpkg --configure a.... oy vey08:05
adzythanks dirty dawg ;) worked a treat08:05
DirtyDawgnp08:05
yigalvirgilivs: I'm just going to build the latest vim from git, why not08:05
jiohdivirgilivs: what happened when you tried that?08:05
crlcan81sakuramboo So far my only major complaint with unity is it's integration with desktop wall on compiz, I prefer desktop cube. Plus some of the upgrading didn't let me install debs from link, aka downloading a deb and having it open in software center. It keeps saying the listed file doesn't exist in repositories.08:06
adzythe new ubuntu reminds me of fedora alot!08:06
pfifolumbert, the problem is that, the initramfs is supposed to wait a few seconds for your USB device to be ready, but its not so it cant find the needed files. I recommend installing grub2 and using the isoboot method, but I cant find a good guide for it... yet08:06
virgilivsjiohdi: it's doing it... just taking forever as expected. it's just that its 3AM here08:06
truepurpleSo far my only major complaint of unity is that it doesn't work for me08:06
jiohdi3am here too08:06
xubuntuhello08:06
jiohditruepurple: its a work in progress, not ready for prime time player in the opinion of many08:06
virgilivsjiohdi: I'm used to Arch Linux idiosyncrasies and updating things incrementally08:07
pfifolumbert, different machines have different USB controllers, and some chipsets are faster than others08:07
sakuramboocrlcan81: you can change the desktop wall with ccsm and i read on a blog somewhere about how to install deb files08:07
xubuntujoin /#ubuntu-ko08:07
truepurplejiohdi: Could you help me figure out a ATI driver problem that is possibly related?08:07
crlcan81Does anyone know how to alter the unity menu to split up the applications more like the old style? Or how to move the buttons for minimize/maximize/close program to the right again?08:07
jiohdivirgilivs: I find the best way is to start the upgrade about a month out while in beta and then just let it gradually upgrade... by opening day, its all done08:07
truepurple I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL08:07
lumbertthey both asus p8p67 , same chipset08:07
rubydiamondGuys I had installed ufw.. now I removed it .. but config files for it are still sitting in my Ubuntu08:07
rubydiamondhow to remove those config files too08:07
rubydiamondI tried autoremove and purge08:08
pfifolumbert, this page explains how to make a grub2 isoboot setup but dosent explain how to install grub2 http://www.ubuntudoctor.com/content/blog/08/ISO-Booting-with-Grub-2-in-Ubuntu08:08
virgilivsjiohdi: i'll try to remember that08:08
jiohditruepurple: I have only been playing with linux a bit over 2 years and not that skilled yet08:08
xubuntu저...08:08
DirtyDawgxubuntu: /join #ubuntu-ko08:08
crlcan81sakuramboo: I tried to, but when I did it said unity needed them, you sure you want to do that?08:08
truepurpleCan anyone help?08:08
xubuntujoin #ubuntu-ko08:08
lumbertpfifo; thanks going to tinker, bbl08:08
DirtyDawgdo /join08:08
jiohditruepurple: state the nature of your emergency ... if someone knows they answer they will tell you08:08
pfifolumbert, regardless of chipsets and computers, the problem is that the deice is not ready08:09
truepurple I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL08:09
sakuramboowell, all in all, im liking it, of course there is a lot of things broken now because of the change and will take some getting used to, but i actually have high hopes for unity08:09
virgilivsjiohdi: well, I tried apt-get update and upgrade and it thinks everythnig is fine08:09
virgilivsjiohdi: but what does it know08:09
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jiohdivirgilivs: type lsb_release -a and see what it tells you08:10
plustaxAnyone else notice a slight bit of lag in 11.04? Any way I can fix this?08:10
yigalsakuramboo: I like unity quite a lot from the little I've used it08:10
virgilivsjiohdi: everything reads nominal08:10
jiohdiwhat does it say you are running08:10
cxhgood everyone08:10
virgilivs11.04, natty, etc08:11
truepurple I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?08:11
al_cellIs there08:11
jiohdivirgilivs: than you should be ok... what seems missing?08:11
stefgtruepurple: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/745723 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/70950508:11
ubottuUbuntu bug 745723 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu Oneiric) "package fglrx 2:8.840-0ubuntu1 failed to install/upgrade: fglrx kernel module failed to build" [Medium,Invalid]08:11
ubottuUbuntu bug 709505 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "[MASTER] fglrx failed to install/upgrade due to being incompatible with 2.6.38 kernel" [Critical,Fix released]08:11
virgilivsjiohdi: not sure. the upgrade failed at configuring udisks with "5 minutes remaining" for the entire upgrade process. The system completely froze. I had to manually restart08:12
jiohdivirgilivs: so is anything not working at the moment?08:12
hellohello08:12
al_cellA way to reduce the size of the unity file/app search thingy?08:12
pfifohello, hello08:12
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stefg!info ccsm | al_cell08:13
ubottual_cell: Package ccsm does not exist in natty08:13
plustaxAnyone else notice a slight bit of lag in 11.04? Any way I can fix this?08:13
hellowhere are you from08:13
hello?08:13
crlcan81Does anyone who has more unity experience then sakuramboo and I know for sure if it's safe to switch from desktop wall to desktop cube if unity says it needs it, on compiz?08:13
DeathKnightstefg, wow! why does ccsm doesnt exist in natty?08:13
virgilivsjiohdi: not that I can tell, but it's still significant that it didn't finish, dont you think? it means there are now possibly dependency problems08:13
crlcan81it does death..08:13
yigalvirgilivs: have you done a fsck.<file-system>? yet?08:13
crlcan81deathknight: It's just setup differently then you expect.08:14
stefgal_cell: there is tehe compiz config settings manager ... don't know why the renamed it or where it got stuffed away.08:14
virgilivsno08:14
DeathKnightah.. ok08:14
kyleeDoes Ubuntu work good for a LAMP server?08:14
stefg!info simple-ccsm08:14
ubottusimple-ccsm (source: simple-ccsm): Simple Compizconfig settings manager. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.8.2-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 50 kB, installed size 620 kB08:14
stefgthere we have it08:14
al_cellStefg: thanx i'll look into it08:14
truepurplestefg: ok thanks, how do I uninstall, and how do I install the open source?08:14
adzyanyone know how to get that new sidebar up for ubuntu 11.0408:14
adzy???08:14
jiohdivirgilivs: apt-get install -f should fix all dep problems08:14
crlcan81every time I try to install simple-ccsm it says I don't have the necessary dependencies..08:15
truepurplestefg: What does the first link have to do with the issue though?08:15
yigalvirgilivs: what do you get with 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?08:15
virgilivsjiohdi: then I'm totally confused about what it was doing.08:15
virgilivsyigal: nothing to upgrade, it says08:15
jiohdivirgilivs: seems like you made it08:15
virgilivsi am skeptical08:16
virgilivsit bombed, for heavens sake08:16
jiohdivirgilivs: system issues can resolve on restarts08:16
root_kn08:16
yigalvirgilivs: what's in your /var/log/apt/history.log?08:16
stefgtruepurple: i did not read thru the whole bug report... i just wanted to make you aware of google-fu. 'ubuntu natty fglrx build failure' spit these links out. Since you were able to track down the issue, you should be able to find out what applies to you and what not :-)08:17
virgilivsyigal: that file doesnt exist for me08:17
virgilivsnevermind08:17
virgilivstypo08:17
yigalvirgilivs: but /var/log/apt/ the folder does exist for you?08:18
truepurplestefg: Well the whole thing is so above my head as to make it want to split, but that second link does seem to apply, thanks08:18
virgilivsyigal: no, it's there. I just had a type-o08:19
truepurplestegf: Do you know how to remove that driver?08:19
vngGood afternoon!08:19
truepurpleI mean stefg08:19
virgilivsyigal: nothing unusual is recorded in the log. it doesn't contain anything about the upgrade procedure08:19
yigalvirgilivs: so look at previous logs and find the one that does08:19
adzyhow do i get the launcher bar up? mine ist there and just did fresh install08:19
plustaxim having an issue. I have an ipod nano and I just formatted it and added a butt ton of music. I unplugged the ipod and it said there's no music in it. Running Ubuntu 11.0408:20
stefgtruepurple: it is obviously *not* above your head. you managed to pastebin the exact right log... http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/amd-ati-catalyst-114-released-just-in.html might shed some more light on that08:21
zetheroofor some reason my Skype icon is just a tiny green dot in 11.04 ... any ideas of how to sort this out?08:21
virgilivsyigal: can't find anything.... the date's not in any of the files. I grepped them all08:21
truepurplestefg: Some of it is, and some of it is stuff that my brain can't quite contain and it sort of leaks out my ears or something:p08:21
Altheashello i just upgraded to unity and for some reason i can't see my top bar or my left dock thing. the only way i can function unity for now is to login with ubuntu classic. any ideas on how to fix this?08:22
gotsanityis there a way to set up multiple keyboard shortcuts for an action? I want to have a special key for changing workspaces and the ubuntu default as well08:22
plustaxim having an issue. I have an ipod nano and I just formatted it and added a butt ton of music in banshee. I unplugged the ipod and it said there's no music in it. Running Ubuntu 11.0408:22
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manOwlSo I found a package that I don't believe is in the ubuntu repositories and it's pretty good08:23
manOwlIf I make a .deb for it and stuff, can I submit it?08:23
yigalvirgilivs: termlog's are right protected so you'll have to use sudo to grep those08:23
manOwlHow are packages selected for inclusion?08:23
virgilivsi did08:23
truepurplestefg: And i have been working at this for some time, you would not believe the number of windows, webpages etc I got up08:23
bp0manOwl, are you sure08:23
bp0what is the package08:23
stefgtruepurple: unfortunately i don't know the package names for the ATI stuff. sudo apt-get autoremove fglrx-installer might be worth a try08:23
Altheashello i just upgraded to unity and for some reason i can't see my top bar or my left dock thing. the only way i can function unity for now is to login with ubuntu classic. any ideas on how to fix this?08:24
manOwlbp0: ms-sys08:24
Hoythi , anyone tried GrSecurity patch here ?08:24
Hoyti can't find one suitable for Ubuntu , ubuntu's kernel is patched too much08:24
durandoi just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 and having trouble figuring out how to connect to my windows shares used to be under places connect to server does anyone know where its located now?08:24
virgilivsthanks yigal08:24
manOwlbp0: it allows you to make a windows 7 mbr and stuff. it can be used to create a bootable windows 7 usb drive from linux08:24
manOwlI was thinking about maybe making a little GUI in python for it08:24
manOwlto create a bootable win 7 drive from linux08:25
bp0huh interesting08:25
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sakuramboodurando: dont have a window selected, move the mouse to the top bar, you will see a "places" button, check there08:26
durandoi tried that sakuramboo08:27
mcurranwe need a good screenlet for xchat08:27
manOwlbp0: you promise not to steal my idea ;)?08:27
sakuramboodurando: what happens when you select Network?08:27
MK``This may sound strange but does anyone have torrent links for the old, unsupported versions like 4.10 and etc.?08:27
durandosakuramboo: that didn't seem to work well08:27
sakuramboodurando: you also have the "File" button and "Connect to Server", select windows share, enter the into and connect08:28
Jordan_UmanOwl: You can write a microsoft style (chainload first "active" partition) mbr with "install-mbr" from the "mbr" pacakge.08:28
lehel_how do i costumize the top bar in 11.04 natty?08:28
stefgtruepurple: and check in /etc/X11 ... if there is a xorg.conf then rename or delete it.. After a reboot you should have the situation before you installed the proprietary driver, then you can start over and install the open source one08:28
thousandsI'm trying to use webcamstudio in ubuntu 11.04. It worked find in 10.10 and 10.04. But I can't get it working in 11.04. I think this might be important "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Unable to load library 'glib-2.0': libglib-2.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Does anyone have any ideas?08:28
manOwlJordan_U: and that works for win7 etc?08:28
Jordan_UmanOwl: Yes.08:28
durandosakuramboo: trying that but i can't seem to unselect indows08:28
virgilivsyigal: suddenly, after toggling the zoom compiz plugin off and on again, now screen isnt updating.08:29
bp0manOwl, I promise.08:29
manOwlJordan_U: cool08:29
crlcan81I will admit I know one thing that makes almost no sense to me, on the media player front for Ubuntu. As a music player/movie player, I've yet to see VLC be beat. plus it uses so little of my system the only thing I seen take this little is mpd based, and that cuts out your audio for any other program.08:29
manOwl:D08:29
virgilivsyigal: I think tomorrow I'll just do a fresh install08:29
yigalvirgilivs: ok, but sometimes it's a good exercise to try and get the machine back up again08:29
yigalvirgilivs: but time doesn't always permit08:30
virgilivsyigal: there are no records of any problems08:30
mcurranunetbootin works fine for creating bootable usb windows 7.  What you need is a live environment of windows 7 on usb, the whole os, not just friggin' those cheasy ghost images08:30
MitsukaruFREDDYP: because your caps lock key is broken. fix your computer.08:30
virgilivsyigal: I can't pinpoint anything08:30
truepurplestegf Yeah: that is what I used last time when I force closed it before it could finish, but deleting that file left residue stuff in that didn't really work08:31
yigalvirgilivs: you can always reinstall everything using apt08:31
truepurpleI mean stefg08:31
Mitsukaruooops, i was scrolled all the way up and didnt realize it xD08:31
yigaldpkg --get-selections > MyPackages08:31
manOwlmcurran: hm, i wonder if it would run successfully off of a usb stick like that.08:31
yigalvirgilivs: and then use that list to reinstall everything08:31
mcurrana install would, but I want a live iso.08:32
pfifo!clone | yigal virgilivs08:32
ubottuyigal virgilivs: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate08:32
yigalyes use aptitude if you're more comfortable with it08:32
stefgtruepurple: google-fu, 2nd part: "ubuntu natty fglrx uninstall" turns up https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver08:33
keithtoothousands: do apt-get install libglib2.0-0 and see if that helps08:33
phibxris it possible to configure unity/compiz to darken the rest of the desktop while asking for root access?08:33
virgilivsok, thanks08:33
cpoulsendoes anyone know how i can make ubuntu classic the default in GDM login?08:34
virgilivsi switched over from Arch because I was spending too much time administering the system :)08:34
stefgcpoulsen: doesn't gdm remember your last choice?08:34
thousandsnope keithtoo. That didn't help. I still get the same message =(08:34
yigalvirgilivs: ya I did also :)08:35
Altheashey, i just recently installed 11.04 but for some reason the only way i can navigate in it is if i login with ubuntu classic GUI. When i try to login with unity the top bar and the dock does not show up. any ideas?08:35
virgilivsbrb... Im going to simply try to log out/in just to get X working again08:35
cpoulsenstefg: nope it doesnt seem to08:35
Incarus6Altheas, same happens to me08:36
truepurplestefg: I had that link, but thanks08:36
yigalcool08:36
AltheasInacrus6, have you heard any solutions? or heard what the problem might be?08:36
durandothis new format to ubuntu is going to turn me into a debian user08:36
keithtoothousands: did that also pull up libglib2.0-bin? Might need that too08:37
stefgvirgilivs: /sarcasm: Now you spend the time in endless mouse travels to the global menu and clicking 5 times just to start an application. /sarcasm off08:37
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pfifodurando, try rolling arch08:37
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durandorolling arch?08:38
stevegzaI have to agree about the new interface - not sold on it and think there is a ton of work to optimise amount of clicks08:38
Incarus6Altheas, I heard you have to install compiz-gnome, that didn't work for me. I think some packages are missing and the dependencies are just wrong / buggy. Unity 2D works for me08:38
pfifodurando, archlinnux rolling release08:38
boryshalo08:38
Mitsukarurolling releases ROCK! >:O08:38
Altheas Incarus6, alright i'll give it a try and i'll get back to you if it ended up working out or not08:39
lehel_in 11.04 can the top bar be costumized and if yes how do i do that? Can anyone help thanks08:39
thousandsErr, I don't think so. So I just did an install of it, but it says it's already installed. Like it said the first thing was already installed. And webcamstudio still gives the same message and refuses to start08:39
Incarus6Altheas, roger. I will look for a solution08:39
zetheroofor some reason my Skype icon is just a tiny green dot in 11.04 ... any ideas of how to sort this out?08:39
rainopen system monitor and kill skype then open from the app list, should fix it08:40
Incarus6Who got problems with Upgrading to 11.04?08:42
sakuramboonot with upgrading, just managing now that its running ;)08:43
keithtoothousands: check in your lib directory for that lib - on my system it's  /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.008:43
Mitsukarudoes anyone know how to organize the items in the Launcher? like, re-order them? when i try dragging and dropping to a different place, it just drags the whole launcher instead of the item i clicked.08:44
chadihello world. do you guys have any idea if it is possible to play with the width/length of the individual minimize/maximize/close buttons?08:44
MortenTempHi, can anyone recommend a DLNA server?08:44
sakurambooMitsukaru: click on the icon and hold it until the icon "lifts up"08:44
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Mitsukaruoh, thanks sakuramboo!08:44
crlcan81chadi: I was wondering something along those lines as well. I want to alter where they're located on mine.08:45
Mitsukarusakuramboo: is there some official documentation or tutorial or something for the new launcher in unity?08:45
vngCan I add more workspaces in 11.04?08:45
Mitsukaruchadi: learn to create themes, then you can make it look like anything you want08:45
chadicrlcan81, the only thing I know is that there's a gconf entry to move them from left to right08:46
lumbertpfifo, still around?08:46
red2kicMorten_: Ushare? Just a guess.08:46
crlcan81chadi Where is that? I forgot about gconf.08:46
Morten_red2kic, I will take a look at it, thanks :)08:46
crlcan81found it08:46
pfifolumbert, yeah08:46
red2kicMorten_: mediatomb and minidlna turns up too. You have to mess with it to find it. :(08:47
crlcan81chadi: gconf-editor?08:47
lumbertpfifo, i was using a usb 3.0 port08:47
lumbertpfifo, used a 2.0, fixed08:48
chadicrlcan81, doesn't work on unity in maximized form, though08:48
Morten_red2kic, ok - I think I will try the ushare first, and then give the other ones a try :) thanks08:48
crlcan81crap..08:48
thousandsI'm not great at this, so i'm not 100% sure if you mean this. But I found libglib-2.0.so.0 in /lib64/x86_64-linux-gnu  and also in /lib32  but they're both links to libglib-2.0.so.0.2800.608:48
pfifolumbert, ahh, that makes no sense, but ill jot that issue down08:48
ElladanSo, now that ubuntu has officially jumped the shark with this natty stuff, what distro should I switch to?08:49
crlcan81chadi: My normal windows are fine, it's the maximized one I want to alter.08:49
snowrichardi'm doing the upgrade for 11.04.  I hope it finishes downloading all the packages before my free download time window stops at 6 am08:49
keithtoothousands: I'm stumped there... seems that if the links are there, the prog should roll08:49
sakurambooin the launcher, if i open a program once, is there a way to click the icon a second time and have it open a new window?08:49
Tweakywhat is the preferred website to paste screenshots?08:50
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thousands=\ well thanks for trying to help. I guess I'll have to ask elsewhere08:50
lumbertpfifo, now that i'm inside, its not detecting my usb 3.0 HDD - i'd assume the two problems are related?08:50
atlef!paste | Tweaky08:50
ubottuTweaky: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.08:50
chadicrlcan81, it's one of the reasons I gave up on unity :-)\08:50
vngIs there any document about unity?08:50
Incarus6snowrichard, I had to download 2,5 GB :D08:50
Jordan_Usnowrichard: You can always continue it another day if it doesn't. Any packages already downloaded will be kept.08:50
Ciccio89ciao ragazzi! ho un problema con ubuntu 11.04: praticamente non riesco ad attivare gli effetti visivi :( ho una scheda nvidia geforce go 7300 e i driver installati sono quelli proprietari che raccomanda ubuntu. qualcuno può aiutarmi?08:50
snowrichardyeah i though so08:51
jibadeehaanyone find ubuntu doesn't shutdown properly .. just hangs08:51
ElladanI gave up on unity after about 1 minute in 11.04, however, Natty seems to have broken regular gnome to the point of unusability too.08:51
Incarus6lumbert, are you sure USB 3.0 is supported in your linux kernel? (Are you using 11.04?)08:51
pfifolumbert, my guess, is that usb30 kernel modules have not made it into the initramfs/livecd08:51
Tuxx<3 the new ubuntu08:51
lumberti'm trying this gnome device manager, so i can attempt to determine if its not recognized, linux nub :(08:52
adzyanyone know how i get the new launcher bar to appear ?08:52
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pfarrell_hi! I hope someone can help me: I'm at my wits end. I have a dell e6510 and my touchpad is driving me crazy. it is one of the new touchpads that isn't recognised as a touchpad by the kernel, and so I can't use synclient to disable the touchpad while typing, basically making typing impossible. I've googled and googled, and there are a million different bugzilla/launchpad threads, but I can't actually find a solution! can anyone pleas08:52
pfarrell_e help?08:52
Tweakyhello! im having diffulty with upgrading to 11.04 .... http://imagebin.org/15095608:52
Braiamso, what's the name of the bar at left in unity?08:53
lumbertpfifo, is that to say if i installed the full version it would recognize my external 3.0 drive?08:53
ElladanSo how do I un-break Compiz in natty?  It is literally impossible to move windows without having it explode and start randomly maximizing them and stuff.08:53
ElladanAlso, the compiz settings for which windows to scroll and workspace switch are totally broken.08:54
Incarus6Tweaky, pls paste /var/log-dist-upgrade/apt.log and main.log08:54
chazwozahi all08:54
Incarus6Braiam, launcher maybe?08:54
abhinavhow do I install gnome3 ? I have the official PPA added, and some websites mention installing gnome3-desktop or gnome-desktop3. Neither is showing up in synaptic08:54
chazwozadoes anyone know how to make Ubuntu Classic the default sesssion in 11.04 ? It doesnt save after I choose it and log in :(08:54
pfifolumbert, speaking from the linux kernel standpoint, USB 3.0 is supported... in ubuntu i have no idea08:54
Incarus6Tweaky, this error is caused by unmatched dependencies when you use foreign repos08:55
botcityElladan, can you access compiz?08:55
Jordan_UTweaky: Are you using (or have you used) any third party repositories / ppas?08:55
Jordan_U!gnome3 | abhinav08:55
ubottuabhinav: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.08:55
abhinavchazwoza: Yes, go to adminstration-> Login screen08:55
TweakyJordan_U: im using several repositories yes08:55
abhinavJordan_U: I understand that. Nevertheless.. how do I install it ?08:55
chazwozaabhinav: thanks08:55
chazwoza:)08:56
Jordan_UTweaky: Uninstall any applications that are not from the standard repositories.08:56
Incarus6Jordan_U, I will help Tweaky fixing the dependencies08:56
Elladanbotcity: I'm attempting to fix it in the compizconfig tool, except that Natty /also/ broke the tool to the point of nonfunctionality08:56
FlynsarmyHey guys I installed 11.04 in Virtualbox-4.0. As expected, unity didn't load so it went to gnome classic. all fine so far but after a reboot, gnome classic now looks like this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7629436/Screenshot-1.png any ideas on how to fix that?08:56
Incarus6Tweaky, pls paste the files08:56
stefgpfarrell_: have you tried setting up a udev-rule ? http://www.bhagwad.com/blog/2010/technology/alps-synaptics-touchpad-configuration-in-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-10-04.html08:56
Tweakyincarus6: one sec08:56
resc_user_2649my ubuntu linux is not booting with window 7.. what will i do08:56
atlefFlynsarmy, install the vbox additions08:56
pfarrell_stefg: I have not, I'll do that now08:56
Incarus6resc_user_2649, is grub shown up correctly?08:57
pfarrell_but I don't think it will work, because nothing "synaptics" has worked08:57
atlef*guest additions08:57
resc_user_2649no08:57
pfarrell_I don't think the touchpad is recognised as having anything to do with "synaptics"08:57
stefgpfarrell_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14178/how-to-disable-touchpad-on-dell-latitude-e-series-e5510-e6510 here you have08:57
resc_user_2649grub menu is not showing08:57
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: Which OS is not booting. Ubuntu or Windows (or both)?08:57
botcityElladan, if you can get there there is a reset in  ccsm >> preferences >>reset to default08:57
resc_user_2649ubuntu08:57
Tweakyincarus6: i dont see those files listed08:57
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: What happens when you boot?08:57
pfarrell_stefg: that askubuntu is how to disable it completely: but what if I don't have another mouse?08:57
resc_user_2649ubuntu is not booting and window 7 boot smoothily08:58
pfarrell_stefg: I want instead to have it recognised as a touchpad by the system08:58
Flynsarmyatlef: why would it have looked fine the first load but not the second?08:58
pfarrell_stefg: so that it can be disabled while typing08:58
LaibschHi, I'm looking for help to get back a working initramfs to boot my encrypted LVM: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+question/154973/08:58
Incarus6Tweaky, it was a type, /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and main.log08:58
resc_user_2649dirertily enter to window 708:58
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: Do you have more than one hard drive?08:58
atlefFlynsarmy, sorry, no idea08:58
resc_user_2649onlu one hard drive08:58
resc_user_2649i downloaded rescatux and how will use ths to solve booting08:59
Elladanbotcity: That doesn't help, because I need it to set compiz to some sort of /sane/ defaults, not the psychotic insanity in Natty08:59
Tweakyincarus6: oh.. hidden directory alrgiht sec08:59
SpaceRainHi. :)08:59
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: Did you install Ubuntu first or Windows first?08:59
atlefFlynsarmy, it look like that the first time i logged in, did not even reboot it09:00
atlef*looked09:00
resc_user_2649the problem comes wen i reinstall window 709:00
chadiI disabled overlay scrollbars as in this tutorial http://www.streamreader.org/askubuntu/questions/34214/how-do-i-disable-overlay-scrollbars but it only gets disabled for my own user, not if I use sudo... why is that?09:00
resc_user_2649after that i installed ubuntu lated version(upgraded using cd)09:00
chadiI used the global approach09:00
Flynsarmyatlef: installing them helped. thanks09:00
pfarrell_this is really awful09:00
SpaceRainThis is seriously off-topic, but does anyone know how to use grooveshark.com?09:00
pfarrell_it makes the whole computer unusable when you can't fecking type :-(09:01
atlefFlynsarmy, yw09:01
ejvask in #ubuntu-offtopic SpaceRain, you should know better. :P09:01
SpaceRainUnfortunately I don't, ejv. :)09:01
botcityElladan, can you log out and back in to classic ubuntu i think you may be able to set it there ?09:01
ejvin that case09:01
testhello09:01
ejv!ot | SpaceRain09:01
ubottuSpaceRain: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!09:01
resc_user_2649when i upgraded ubuntu.. ubuntu booted well.. but not window 7.. so i repard window 7 boot loader uisng window 7 cd.. now window 7 only booting09:01
testcan sb help me09:01
SpaceRainThank you. :)09:01
ejv!ask | test09:01
ubottutest: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:01
testi bought new harddrive09:01
testand i need an operating system09:02
nandaramis there information on upgrading lts older to lts now09:02
Incarus6Tweaky, I meant a *typo, sry, its early in the morning here ;)09:02
nandaramtest: buy a geek and make him install one09:02
Elladanbotcity: No, I'm saying Natty is broken to the point of unusability even when I log in to "classic ubuntu"09:02
testbut i dont want unity09:02
testso is it better to use kde ?09:02
Tweakyincarus6: http://pastebin.com/LkVkbvWf http://pastebin.com/Y2w7knSW and yeah, its 4am here heh i understand09:02
MK``This may sound strange but does anyone have torrent links for the old, unsupported versions like 4.10 and etc.? They seem to have been removed from the old-releases server, yet ironically the isos have not been. I don't want to hammer the server, I'd rather use the torrent.09:02
botcityElladan, oh lol sorry !09:02
Incarus6test, you can also try the classic gnome. Pls ask in one line next time09:03
Elladanbotcity: Like, I literally can't place windows into positions on the screen, because the WM goes insane and starts maximizing stuff at random like some crazy person designed it09:03
nandaramtest: is what better then kde?09:03
stefgLaibsch: My first cheap attempt would be  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lvm && sudo update-initramfs -u -k all" in the hope that lvm becomes aware again of the encrypted volume and writes that to initramfs09:03
testIncaru6, nandaram: yesm but i heart in 11.10 not09:03
Elladanbotcity: I literally can't get the compizconfig tool to work, because the wm is so broken it bounces around and goes off the screen so I can't hit the back button etc09:03
Incarus6Tweaky, ok, I can see the problem on the first look09:03
testIncarus6, nandaram: yes but i heart in 11.10 not09:04
Jordan_UElladan: metacity --replace09:04
nandaramtest: ysem is a wm?09:04
testno kde i meant09:04
ejv!enter | test09:04
ubottutest: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!09:04
nandaramubottu: but but09:04
blackdoggyanybody having problems with dual  screen with nvidia in 11.04?09:04
testnandaram: The question kde or gnomeclassic09:05
testin my openion in 11,.10 isnt anymore classic09:05
Tweakyincarus6: what do i need to do ><09:05
ElladanJordan_U: Compiz worked fine in 10.10 -- Natty is just unusable.09:05
Incarus6Tweaky, you used foreign graphic driver repos. pls paste "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | grep Broken"09:05
nandaramtest: um super bloat or ubuntu bloat?09:05
testwhat ?09:05
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: http://rescatux.berlios.de/wiki/Main_Page#Recover_Grub_option09:05
nandarami prefer light linux with gnome libs or less09:05
pfuiwhen i boot up from the live cd and choose "try ubuntu" it just sits there and does nothing, is that a problem with my pc?09:05
nandarambut better is more of an opinion09:06
Incarus6test, the standard desktop is now Unity. you can choose the classic gnome when logging in09:06
nandarami hate kde... =)09:06
arnabi kinda liked it09:06
pfifo!usb309:06
Jordan_UElladan: If you have metacity installed then "metacity --replace" should allow you to use windows normally to run ccsm.09:06
testIncarus6: yes, but i cant change in 11.10 !!09:06
nandaramunity is a kde gnome mix?09:06
pfifois usb3 suported09:06
arnabi wonder how does kubuntu 11.04 compare to unity09:06
Incarus6test, ist there an option "Ubuntu Classic"?09:06
testin 11.04 yes09:06
nandarampfifo: more then likely it works on my non ubuntu kernel since like last year09:06
ElladanJordan_U: Right, but where are the settings to disable all the Natty insanity?09:06
testin 11,10 not09:06
Incarus6arnab, Kubuntu is working perfectly for me - Unity is not.09:07
resc_user_2649i already done whatever on rescatux but...the error message says that ... something went wrong grub do not installed09:07
nandaramif ubuntu when to kde im definetlly uninstalling asap09:07
nandarami thought it had a chance but after trying to find a way to get 8 ttys up09:07
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: Is your Ubuntu install 64 bit?09:07
Laibschstefg: Thank you for having a look.  I did the update-initramfs part already but I'm not sure if I reconfigured lvm.  I'll do that.  Let's see if it helps.09:07
Tweakyincarus6: http://pastebin.com/PBkwbpzS09:07
testIncarus6: i think, gnome 2 is very old is it09:07
nandaramand the mounts of upstart backcrap09:07
eloystebam!dedicatoria <nandaram>09:08
nandaramwhen it didnt even seem used i couldnt even grep the /etc and find the vt709:08
Incarus6test, it is gnome 2.32 at the moment. the newer version is gnome309:08
eloystebam!dedicatoria nandaram09:08
Incarus6!gnome3 | test09:08
ubottutest: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.09:08
resc_user_264964 bit ubuntu09:08
arnabIncarus6, just as i expected... i should read some reviews of kubuntu i think. in the end i may decide to switch to that.09:08
testthe thing is09:08
stefg_nattyLaibsch: the point is to that /after/ lvm reconfiguration, so the new lvm-conf gets into the initramfs09:08
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: What is the output of "uname -m"?09:08
testi HATE !! unity and gnome309:08
nandaramIncarus6: nice then ill keep trying is there an easy way to get 8ttys for force xorg to tty909:08
Incarus6Tweaky, now paste "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core"09:09
nandaramtest: change is good. keep trying to hate your impotence09:09
Laibschstefg: yes, understood.  Thank you.  I'll have a look09:09
resc_user_2649what is uname-m09:09
testso what can you recommend me09:09
atleftest, why don't you use 10.1009:09
Incarus6nadaram, are you sure you are talking to me?09:09
testatlef: why 10,10? why not 11.0409:10
nandaramIncarus6: yes you seem knowledgeable have you ever used a console?09:10
ElladanJordan_U: I mean, I can thrash the thing until the tool kind of works, but I'm having a lot of trouble finding out what bizarre settings those crackheads at Canonical came up with in a drug-crazed stupor when they were designing the Natty UI.09:10
nandaramJordan_U: your here?09:10
nandaramlol09:10
Incarus6arnab, just install "kubuntu-desktop" and give it a try ;)09:10
Jordan_Unandaram: Yes.09:10
erniciao a tutti09:10
Tweakyincarus6: http://pastebin.com/Rzu4QH0009:10
testnandaram, Incarus6 you do not understand me09:10
Jordan_UElladan: Please stop with insults. It's not neccessary.09:11
Incarus6nandaram, of course, but I don't know how to force Xorg to start in a special tty. whats the exact problem?09:11
testnandaram, Incarus6 you do not understand me09:11
Incarus6Tweaky, Ah, as I expected09:11
Flynsarmyatlef: Spoke too soon. Now both Ubuntu and Ubuntu Classic seem to load Ubuntu Classic, but they seem to load it with the proper theme then switch to the theme in my screenshot :S09:11
pfuiwhen i boot up from the live cd and choose "try ubuntu" it just sits there and does nothing. any ideas?09:11
testnandaram, Incarus6 you do not understand me09:11
arnabIncarus6, should i go that route and somehow finally choose not to get back to gnome, is there an easy way to clear the system of all  kubuntu-desktop packages? i have only 8gb of hard disk space.09:12
Incarus6Jordan_U, test, nadaram left. And what do I not understand?09:12
Tweakyincarus6: is that good or bad lol09:12
VustomI don't seem to have the "Open with..." option when right clicking things in Ubuntu 11.4.. any idea how to fix this?09:12
Robert__I have a virtualbox question can any one help?09:12
VustomFor example, like a .desktop extention.09:12
atlefFlynsarmy, hmm, have not experienced that, yet09:12
botcityElladan, was natty ok when you installed it ? i thought that you just messed up your settings ?09:12
testIncarus6: the thing is, 11.04 has gnome, 11,10 not09:13
arnabyeah Robert__ .09:13
stefg_nattyRobert__: there's #vbox ... if it's ubuntu-host related it might fit in here09:13
testrigh t Incarus6?09:13
Incarus6arnab, Im not sure, I heard that you can simpley remove "kubuntu-desktop", but that never worked for me. I use a lot "aptitude autoclean" and "apt-get autoremove"09:13
Elladanbotcity: Of course it wasn't.  I'm using the Natty defaults, and they are an unusable broken WM configuration.09:13
arnabahh ok, thanks Incarus609:13
Incarus6test, are you using 11.10?09:13
testIncarus6: no but at october 201109:13
sudiptaI have installed natty yesterday.After installing propietary nvidia driver unity interface does no respond at all...any help?09:14
Elladanbotcity: I'm trying to find out what sort of bizarre insanity Canonical came up with when they were defining stuff like the edge drag behavior so I can configure it into some sort of minimally useful form09:14
testand many articles said there isnt anymore an gnome classicall09:14
Tweakyincarus6: so what do i do?09:14
Incarus6Tweaky, its goot that we found the solution, but the solution isn't that easy, you have to start the upgrade several times after we fixed it and that takes a lot time09:14
Incarus6Tweaky, first you have to disable all foreign repo sources09:14
testIncarus6: no but at october 201109:15
testand many articles said there isnt anymore an gnome classicall09:15
usalabsdo not use 11.04 unity, it is useless, there is no taskbar that is relied upon by progs such as cryptkeeper, use classic by starting the login screen app, then change the session to 'Classic'09:15
Robert__arnab__; stefg_natty__: iv gone to great lengths to make this thing work but but vbox will not let me boot from a usb or from a cd or anything really09:15
Tweakyincarus6: how do i know which are foreign09:15
Incarus6test, I think oneiric got gnome too: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/gnome09:15
Incarus6Tweaky, every repo, that is not ubuntu.com09:15
testhm09:15
* vibhav is ready to help others!09:16
sudiptaI have installed natty yesterday.After installing propietary nvidia driver unity interface does no respond at all...any help?09:16
vibhav<sudipta> lemme see09:17
stefg_nattyElladan: instead of getting upset i think you should just accept the fact that you are not in the target audience for unity. I'm p*ssed, too that Canonical picked up the nasty habbit of breaking my setup with every update. Unity is a take-it or leave-it thing, and as things semm, you should rather leave it and pick classic or even emigrate to mint09:17
Robert__arnab__; stefg_natty__: iv gone to great lengths to make this thing work but but vbox will not let me boot from a usb or from a cd or anything really09:17
Elladanstefg_natty: Yeah, you're right.09:17
sudiptavibhav:yes...pls do...09:17
laughzillaanyone using ubuntu 11.x ?09:17
Elladanstefg_natty: I'm just going to reformat tomorrow and install some other OS.  Ubuntu is clearly not going to get any better.09:17
resc_user_2649i am using 64 bit ubuntu and 32 bit window 709:18
sudipta<laughzilla>yeah...i am09:18
MicaelHello i have installed ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop but now i cant start it i only come to a sign that say my laptops name and i cant press anything09:18
Elladanstefg_natty: Is mint decent?09:18
vibhav<sudipta> believe Unity requires 3D graphics. So if there is an open driver that can do that, you don't require proprietary drivers.09:18
Robert__arnab__; stefg_natty__: hello09:18
stefg_nattyRobert__:which version are you running?09:18
Incarus6Tweaky, then create an empty directory in your home dir, that we can download several deb files. I'll prepare a long command for you, that will take some time09:18
laughzillasudipta - i just upgraded to it yesterday and i can't seem to mount my data drive (separate physical drive from my os drive).09:18
sudipta<vibhav>which open driver should i use?09:18
Incarus6!nouveau | sudipta09:19
ubottusudipta: nouveau is an open-source nvidia driver included by default in 10.04. Currently 3D rendering is unsupported. More information can be found in http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/ - See also !nvidia09:19
PoshepocketHow do I get rid of this disastrous DOCK of 11.04?09:19
laughzillasudipta - my data drive is not partitioned, according to Disk Utility09:19
resc_user_2649Helo anybody there to help me.. ubuntu is not booting with window 7 is my problem09:19
Robert__stefg_natty__: 10.0409:19
Tweakyicarus6: hm alright ive disabled them all09:19
casperfooElladan: I caught your conversation part way thru but did you upgrade and then have compiz troubles?09:19
ElladanOk, there we go btw: if you disable the "grid" plugin in compiz, it's possible to place windows without the WM going insane on you.09:19
mbrochhwhen i log out my session and log in again it often happens that the top panel loses its theme (using unity)... how can i restore it?09:20
laughzillasudipta - is it possible to create a partition on a disk that already has data on it, without losing that data?09:20
sudipta<Incarus6>can u pls give me the command to install it....there r lot of nouveau in the repo09:20
Incarus6!grub | resc_user_264909:20
ubotturesc_user_2649: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)09:20
VustomIs anyone else having trouble checking their Update Manager? I get "Check your internet connection." but my internet is just fine.09:20
Robert__stefg_natty__:10.0409:20
sudipta<laughzilla>i dont think so09:20
drk-matrHow do you reduce unity search(I think its called lens) function?09:20
Incarus6sudipta, install it the graphical way (jockey)09:20
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: What is the output of "uname -r"?09:21
sudipta<laughzilla>formatting will make the drive empty09:21
vibhav<sudipta> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601200/09:21
stefg_nattyRobert__: i run vbox 4.0.6 PUEL on lucid (with maverick-backport kernel) without issues... does booting from a iso-image (not the physical host drive) not work either?09:21
laughzillasudipta - so i thought. that's frustrating.  how come ubuntu 11.x can't mount an unpartitioned disk, but ubuntu 10.10 could?09:21
resc_user_2649actually i dont know what is uname-r09:21
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Guest4840resc_user_2649, type that in terminal09:22
sudipta<laughzilla>ur estab entry is properly set...check that out09:22
Robert__stefg_natty__: uhhh ya i dont know that much09:22
Guest4840resc_user_2649, "uname -r"09:22
h-deeHi....Simple question. Currently using 10.10, and I'm thinking about switching to 11.04. But, I'm unsure if Unity 3D will work on my Laptop (No external GPU...only Intel's inbuilt card).09:22
Guest4840resc_user_2649, without quotes...09:22
vibhav<h-dee> Can you tell me the card specs?09:22
resc_user_2649amd6409:23
laughzillasudipta - yes i checked /etc/fstab and sure enough my data drive is not listed in there.09:23
h-deevibhav: just a sec.09:23
stefg_nattyh-dee: make sure you have a fresh backup ready to restore in case something breaks or find yourself hating the new UI09:23
resc_user_2649the out put amd5409:23
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: Do you mind burning another CD? Using Super GRUB2 Disk will make this easier.09:23
Robert__stefg_natty__: uhhhh ya i dont know that much09:23
vibhav<h-dee> Or if unity 3d does not work then you can install unity 2d09:23
h-deestefg_natty: Backup is always ready. thanx! First things first!09:23
h-deevibhav: thanx vibhav. Let me check the specs.09:23
sudipta<laughzilla>then u need to put an entry there....09:23
resc_user_2649i burned a cid rescatux... and now i chating from rescatux09:24
vibhav<resc_user_2649> The grub fix CD?09:24
stefg_nattyRobert__ so need to explain a little further what doesn't work. You can't get anything to boot inside virtualbox?09:24
h-deevibhav: Intel's Integrated Graphics Controller GM965/GL96009:24
resc_user_2649can i restore it from rescatux09:24
vibhav<h-dee> wait09:24
h-deevibhav: Sure!09:25
laughzillasudipta yes i figured that ... now i am looking for example syntax of what i should put.09:25
sudipta<vibhav>isn't it in the repo....the usual get-install way09:25
Robert__stefg_natty__:yes nothing will boot i have a usb ready to boot and a cd ready to boot09:25
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: Yes, but you'll need to find how to get to a terminal in rescatux.09:25
resc_user_2649i know i get terminal09:26
resc_user_2649from application menu i gor terminal09:26
vibhav<h-dee> Minimum09:26
vibhav09:26
vibhav1.66 GHz09:26
vibhav09:26
vibhav32 bits09:26
vibhav09:26
FloodBot1vibhav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:26
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: OK. In the terminal please run "uname -m" tell me what it outputs.09:26
stefgRobert__: and you have set the machine to boot from , say, CD first and have mounted an ISO image to the virtual CD-drive?09:26
swebdid you get bug from unchangable gnome theme ? after installation theme transfered to old and gray theme that can be unchangable ? i'm testet on Vmbox and Asus eeepc netbook [linux based netbook]09:26
h-deevibhav: Was that CPU requirements? or G-card?09:27
swebwe install v 9.10 on asus eeepc without any problem09:27
sudipta<vibhav>isn't it in the repo....the usual get-install way09:27
h-deevibhav: no external GPU...so don't know abt clock speed..09:27
resc_user_2649the out put is x86_6409:27
swebv 11.04 disappoint us09:27
vibhavh-dee unity will work09:27
Robert__stefg__:see it wont let me mount there is no option to mount09:27
h-deevibhav: JFYI...processor 2.0 GHz 64-bit09:27
vibhav<sudipta> oh no09:27
h-deevibhav: Thanx vibhav09:27
vibhavh-dee Welcome!09:28
sudipta<vibhav>what?09:28
h-deevibhav: By the way, if I suppose want to install Gnome 3 instead of Unity?09:28
vibhav<h-dee> lemme see09:28
Jordan_Uresc_user_2649: OK, then you should be able to follow this guide: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide09:28
atlef!gnome3 | h-dee09:28
ubottuh-dee: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.09:28
trijntjeHow can I get the 'check cd for defects' option from the live cd? It doesnt show that by default any more09:28
h-deeatlef: Thanx! atleast it can support. Good for experimental purpose.09:29
stefgRobert__: you'll need to add a controller... but i think you shoud re-read the vbox docs. it's getting offtopic for the ubunut support channel09:29
Jordan_Utrijntje: Press any key during the first 5 seconds of boot (when you see the keyboard = accessability symbols).09:29
Incarus6Tweaky, change dir (cd) in that new directory and type "apt-get download xserver-common x11-common x11-xkb-utils xserver-xorg-core libdrm-nouveau1 xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-tseng nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-common xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati fglrx xorg-video-abi-8.0 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-09:29
Incarus6video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xorg-input-abi-11.0 xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-09:29
Incarus6i128 xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-r128 libdrm-dev xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-nv libgl1-mesa-dri" (without SU rights)09:29
FloodBot1Incarus6: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:29
atleftrijntje, it does on my livecd09:29
snowrichardo09:29
vibhav<h-dee> if you install gnome 3 it will break your unity09:29
* Incarus6 actually that command was long09:29
snowricharddrowning from the flood lol09:29
vibhavlol09:30
Incarus6vibhav, am I still muted?09:30
Tweakyicarus6: lol!09:30
trijntjeJordan_U, thanks!09:30
Jordan_Utrijntje: You're welcome.09:30
trijntjeIncarus6, nope09:30
vibhav<Incarus6> NO09:30
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h-deevibhav: Thanx! I'll try that on my VM first then. Thanks for the help. Have a great day.09:30
Robert__stefg__:what do you mean off topic09:30
klrbeesis there anything like cheat engine for ubuntu?09:30
vibhavh-dee Welcome!09:30
usalabs<h-dee> you can switch to classic gnome by logging out, and click your username, and select 'classic' at the bottom bar,,, or run the app called 'Login Screen' and change the session to 'Classic'09:30
* Incarus6 will use pastebin for commands next time :D09:31
h-deeusalabs: Thanks for the suggestion usalabs...seems like I'm surely heading for 11.04 :)09:31
stefgRobert__: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#settings-storage will explain the details. offtopicmeans that this is the ubuntu support chat, and your virtualbox question isn't really ubuntu-related09:31
vibhav<stefg> but neither it is offtopic09:32
Tweakyicarus6: E: Invalid operation download09:32
drk-matrHow do you reduce unity search(I think its called lens) function?09:32
Robert__stefg__:well then where the frick do i get some one to help me with vbox09:32
klrbeesis natty narwhal worth using09:33
vibhav<klrbees> According to me , yes09:33
stefgRobert__: the link i gave you points to the online manual of virtualbox... and then there is the dedictaed channel #vbox09:33
drk-matrccsm only allows you to change the size of launcher icons09:34
usalabs11.04 sucks, I just now for no reason, got logged out of ubuntu and straight to the log in screen, all by itself,,, this never happened with 10.1009:34
Robert__stefg__:how do i get to that channel09:34
besfortdoes anyone now if ubuntu 11.04 have the same problems with HP 62009:34
red2kicRobert__: Click on this --> #vbox09:34
Incarus6Tweaky, don't mistype my name ;) are you sure you typed the command correctly?09:34
red2kicRobert__: or you can type this -->  /j #vbox09:35
Tweakyincarus6: my mistake! i believe so09:35
raven_shotwell: possible to display all images?09:35
pfifomy monitor broke, can I get ubuntu to just print out the tty... on paper09:35
Flynsarmyatlef: Aha! killall -9 gnome-settings-daemon && gnome-settings-daemon fixes it09:35
FlynsarmyDoes installing unity-2d just give you the option to use it alongside 3D or does it actually break unity-3d?09:36
stefgpfifo: to get that 60's feeling?  .... i'd rather ssh into that box09:36
Incarus6Tweaky, try http://paste.ubuntu.com/601205/ otherwise try the same command in the paste with aptitude download instead of apt-get download09:37
Incarus6pfifo, :D09:37
raven_shotwell: possible to display all images?09:37
Incarus6Flynsarmy, it doesn't break Unity-3D, it gives you an extra option09:38
FlynsarmyIncarus6: thanks09:38
resc_user_2649i cant install grub 2 by using tat gude also09:38
Incarus6resc_user_2649, use that guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows09:38
cockkkhi09:39
raven_shotwell: possible to display all images?09:39
SusannaJust updated Ubuntu and graphic is dead slow now. I have two screens and an intel graphic-card09:39
SusannaSomeone experienced same problem09:39
Incarus6Susanna, did you try to start the classic gnome and did that work properly? If not try it09:39
SusannaAs well the resolution of my second screen isn't supported anymore09:39
stefgSusanna: using unity?09:39
SusannaThaks Incarus609:40
resc_user_2649helo anyone help how to recover grub2 using rescatux 0.2609:40
atlefwhat version of gnome is in natty? 2.3209:40
CooKieMonsterif i want to play all streaming format audio /video what code should i get for ubuntu ?09:40
Incarus6atlef, correct09:40
Susannastefg yes09:40
atlefIncarus6, thx09:40
Tweakyincarus6: http://pastebin.com/WUErGJx409:40
Timelighthello09:40
Jordan_U!restricted | CooKieMonster09:41
ubottuCooKieMonster: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats09:41
mah454where in minimize to tray for Xchat client ? (Unity Desktop)09:41
mah454where in minimize to tray for Xchat client ? (Unity Desktop)09:41
atlefIncarus6, and is it full gnome 2.32 or is it stripped down in any way?09:41
mah454where is minimize to tray for Xchat client ? (Unity Desktop)09:41
stefgSusanna: I'd resort to 'classic'. Seems that the (oh so resource-friendly, 3D-needing) new desktop overstresses  the capabilities of you hardware09:41
raven_shotwell: possible to display all images?09:41
Incarus6Tweaky, type "sudo aptitude update" and repeat the aptitude download command09:41
Timelightdoes someone else also slow internet on ubuntu 11.04?09:42
atlef!patience |  raven_09:42
ubotturaven_: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/09:42
PresuntoRJjust upgraded to natty from maverick on my second machine and it has failed miserably... wont boot no matter what...  the screen is blank ... it still runs with a live CD (lucid) I have here...09:43
haroonmy wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working fine. what should I do to rectify this09:43
PresuntoRJcomplete disaster09:43
gurmalhi I use ubuntu 9.1 -- p4 1.8 ghz 512 mb ram (no agp) ...it seems ubuntu i taking high alarming high CPU (100%) when i run rythmbox ,vlc . Any tips on making lean. I dont want to install XFCE or something09:43
Incarus6PresuntoRJ, is grub showing up?09:44
PresuntoRJIncarus6: nope... not even grub09:44
milen8204Any one can help a bit whit mounting a partition to /home folder09:44
raven_shotwell: possible to display all images?09:44
milen8204?09:44
PresuntoRJIncarus6: just a black and sad screen... the HDD keeps spining for a while, and then stops09:44
Incarus6PresuntoRJ, could be a grub-only issue, did you try to recover grub?09:44
ratcgurmal , try to use a different kernel version09:45
PresuntoRJIncarus6: is there a guide to assist?09:45
Incarus6!grub > PresuntoRJ09:45
ubottuPresuntoRJ, please see my private message09:45
gurmal@ratc how can i downgrade current kernel version using apt09:46
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Do you have more than one hard drive?09:46
haroonmy wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working09:46
Renskiok, this unity thing is disgusting. How do I switch it back?09:46
ocoolGPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC2109:47
Incarus6gurmal, you can't downgrade because the every kernel is installed seperatly. just install an older version09:47
CooKieMonsterwhich version restricted extra  shjould i use if i got 8.04 ubuntu09:47
ocoolwhat this error tell abt?09:47
PresuntoRJJordan_U: yes, the / is /dev/sda1, /usr is /dev/sda5 and /home at /dev/sdb109:47
Timelighti got the same problem as haroon. wireless works but some programs act like there is almost no internet09:47
atlefRenski, log out and choose ubuntu classic09:47
Incarus6Renski, choose Ubuntu Classic at the login screen09:47
Renskiits trying to be OSX09:47
Renskity09:47
ocoolGPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC2109:47
ocool?09:47
GilesHow do I log in to the "unity" desktop?09:47
gurmalyuck09:47
Incarus6CooKieMonster, you are still using 8.04?09:47
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Your BIOS probably just isn't booting from the drive grub is installed to. Try changing the boot order in the BIOS.09:48
CooKieMonsteryes09:48
CooKieMonsterwhy ?09:48
GilesAt the login screen I have options "ubuntu, ubuntu classic, ubuntu classic (no effects), custom"09:48
Timelightgiles at the log in screen. there is a option below for that09:48
ocoolhello help me to get over this error?09:48
ocoolGPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC2109:48
milen8204Giles, I think you have to install drivers for your video card09:48
ocool?09:48
atlefCooKieMonster, use "ubuntu"09:48
gurmalps i hate mec09:48
haroonmy wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working  unity 11.0409:48
drk-matrhow do you customize the thing that comes onto the screen when you press the super key in unity....its big and I'd like it to be atleast 25% of the orignal size09:49
Renskimuch better, thank you atlef and Incarus609:49
Incarus6CooKieMonster, which version of 8.04? 8.04.4 LTS? is that still supported?09:49
PresuntoRJJordan_U: I will check, but why on earth the upgrade to natty would, out of the blue, change my bios settings? have this is a machine in use since 8.04, and upgraded flawlessly since09:49
Gilesmilen8204: I removed the nvidia-current package, because it usually causes problems with my non nvidia card...09:49
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: It wouldn't. If that is what is happening then it would most likely be a coincidence.09:49
ocoolhello09:49
ocool?09:49
Renskithis is a note book, and unity took far too long to load, ive got back to classic noeffects09:49
milen8204Giles, I had a problems whit ubuntu starting when I updated to 11.0409:49
drk-matratleast tell me what its called so that I can google it??09:49
Gilesmilen8204: ouch.09:50
raven_shotwell: possible to display all images?09:50
CooKieMonsterafter installed the ubuntu restriced extra  i still can't play windows based streaming audio09:50
milen8204Giles, and then I updated nvidia drives and the Unity started.\09:50
Gilesmilen8204: so where did the "desktop effects" tab go in the classic desktop...09:50
PresuntoRJJordan_U: as expected, no, the boot order is corret09:50
CooKieMonsterso so lame09:50
Incarus6Tweaky, is it working?09:50
voidrhiMik, I have a hybrid card configuration that causes problems with Xorg, is there a way to disable one of them form the kernel?09:51
Timelightwhy is wireless internet slow on ubuntu 1109:51
voidrsoory I meant "hi"09:51
milen8204Giles, it works whit a notice for me I have chose classic desctop09:51
Gilesmilen8204: yes, the first time I logged in it said that my hardware doesn't support unity.09:51
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?09:51
Incarus6voidr, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?09:51
Gilesmilen8204: what did you do exactly?09:52
Incarus6Timelight, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/72896909:52
ubottuUbuntu bug 728969 in linux (Ubuntu) "Wireless connection very slow and weak on Natty Alpha 3" [Undecided,New]09:52
AcriaxHmm, the "Places" and stuff that are supposed to show up when you hover the mouse over the top bar doesn't show up for me.09:52
PresuntoRJJordan_U: I am not sure if I have got it right... how could I install something in my hdd if it wont boot?09:52
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: You can run boot info script from a LiveCD.09:53
netztriphi, is it possible to disable this new omnipresent triange in the lower right corner of every window?09:53
Robert__stefg__: well that didn't get me anywhere09:53
raven_shotwell: possible to display all images?09:53
PresuntoRJJordan_U: ok, it was not clear... I will try then09:53
netztripmaybe a super secret environment variable...09:53
milen8204Giles, whit the massage I have house the "X" button and classic desktop stated09:53
Gilesmilen8204: yeah... I am in classic desktop, I want to try unity...09:54
adzyhow do i activate unity?09:54
milen8204Giles, then I did update to my nvidia drivers and unity starts, I am not so happy whit this now but :D you know09:54
Tweakyincarus6: not sure 1 sec sorry09:54
voidrIncarus6, http://pastebin.com/nGB1zrkC09:54
Incarus6Giles, you could try Unity-2D, while you are in gnome09:54
voidrbasically the two cards confuse Xorg09:54
VustomWhat Ubuntu desktop recorder is this guy using..? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MhJB9yC7Bo09:54
VustomI want it. :D09:55
adzyhow do i activate unity?09:55
drk-matrhow do you customize the thing that comes onto the screen when you press the super key in unity....its big and I'd like it to be atleast 25% of the orignal size09:55
cockkkhello09:55
GilesIncarus6: I am pretty sure my hardware supports 3D, I had wobbly windows before.09:55
milen8204Giles, update your drivers manually and restart your PC and Unity will start, it started for me.09:55
cockkki hate unity and gnome 3 shit09:55
bazhangcockkk, no cursing09:55
Seqiswhat are the so-called "ubuntu classic desktop" users to do when they remove that option altogether in 11.1009:55
cockkkcan i use gnome clasical09:55
adzyhey cockkk how do i activate unity?09:55
GilesIncarus6: I usually have this problem when I upgrade ubuntu, it things I need the nvidia drivers, but my hardware is not nvidia based.09:55
atlefVustom, gtk-recordmydesktop09:56
haroonmy wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working  unity 11.04 but when I start that application from terminal using sudo it works09:56
Incarus6Giles, there are several issues with proprietary drivers in Unity09:56
cockkkcan i use gnome clasical09:56
Gilesmilen8204: How did you "update your drivers manually"09:56
cockkkadzy09:56
bazhangcockkk, yes choose at login window09:56
cockkkinstall graphical drivers09:56
adzyyes?09:56
MACscrhow do i move the unity launcher to my left menu?09:56
Ubuntu123I have a problem with ubuntu 11.0409:56
Incarus6Giles, yes. line 292, [    28.728] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)09:56
adzycockkk yes?09:56
GilesIncarus6: I don't have a proprietary driver... its an intel one...09:56
cockkkinstall graphical drivers adzy :)09:56
MACscrer, left monitor09:56
milen8204Giles, through nvidia site :D i downloaded it and install it09:56
adzyi had unity running before but dunno how i did it?09:57
Gilesmilen8204: I don't have an nvidia card....!09:57
voidryeah it is using the intel card but then it wants to use the nvidia....09:57
milen8204what card do you have ?09:57
Robert__dear lord when i installed ubuntu i didn't realize it was going to consume my whole life09:57
cockkkinstall graphical drivers adzy :)09:57
Giles00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)09:57
cockkki hate unity and gnome 3 shit09:57
cockkkcan i use gnome clasical09:57
voidrthis is what I have http://pastebin.com/W3xjyrwg09:58
Incarus6Giles, you got two graphic cards? whats the second one?09:58
GilesIncarus6: eh?09:58
Gilesoh09:58
Giles00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary) (rev 0c)09:58
Incarus6Giles, nevermind, wrong person ;)09:59
Incarus6voidr, you use two graphic cards? which is the second one?09:59
Ubuntu123Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....is anyone having same kind of problems...can anyone help?09:59
GilesIncarus6: but you are right, there are two entries.09:59
voidrIncarus6, http://pastebin.com/W3xjyrwg09:59
Robert__any one else feel like Ubuntu is a tad to complicated09:59
Incarus6Giles, that is correct, both cards are smiliar I think (its just one of them, doesnt matter)09:59
GilesRobert__: no.09:59
MACscrNo one knows how to move the unity launcher to a different monitor?10:00
Robert__Giles__:should have guessed id get that answer10:00
waideJemand da ? Some1 here?10:00
Ubuntu123Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....is anyone having same kind of problems...can anyone help?10:00
GilesIncarus6: How can I assure I have 3D working... I have tried glxgears, glxinfo.10:00
bazhang!de | waide10:00
ubottuwaide: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis.10:00
Shaggy2I have a problem with rythmbox 0.12.8 the visualisations are lagging is like 1 image refresh per second10:00
Incarus6voidr, and you prefer the intel or the nvidia? Ah I see, you use Sandybridge. The integrated GPU isn't supported yet10:00
GilesUbuntu123: yes10:01
bazhangRobert__, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please10:01
voidrIncarus6, I would love to have the NVidia card only and somehow disable the intel10:01
muyinliuhello10:01
GilesIncarus6, I would love to have the intel card only and somehow disable the NVidia ;)10:02
voidrbut other way around would be fine too I gues Incarus610:02
ChepollQuestion: Upon booting my computer, it said that a new release of namby or whatever was out, and that i should do-something-something. It installed a GB load of stuff, or so it said,and now I'm unable to do few things. I cannot launch Software-update-center, I cannot apt-get install conkeror, I cannot use my terminal emulator properly urxvt10:02
Ubuntu123<Giles>yes pls...do...i dont know what to do now10:02
Robert__bazhang__: oh no i have loads of ontopic questions i was just makeing a statement10:02
bazhangChepoll, please be more precise10:02
Incarus6Giles, not in his case, Intel card isnt working here. try "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p "10:02
GilesUbuntu123: Neither do I, I was just saying I am also having problems, and that someone can help ;)10:02
bazhangChepoll, some exact error messages would be a good start10:02
Tweakyincarus6: http://pastebin.com/2AbjzqDK10:02
milen8204Anyone knows how to switch to classic desktop trough Unity?10:02
bazhangmilen8204, at the login window10:03
Incarus6Tweaky, enable standard repos and disable the "sarvatt" repo10:03
Ubuntu123Giles:ohh...that's ok....ddi u find any solution10:03
GilesIncarus6: giles@masala:~$ ls /usr/lib/nux    ls: cannot access /usr/lib/nux: No such file or directory10:03
Chepollbazhang: okay, firstly, my error from urxvt : when I try "clear" command, it says "rxvt-256color", unknown terminal type10:03
AcriaxIs Unity configurable in any way? Right clicking doesn't work and I haven't found anything in the settings yet10:03
milen8204bazhang, could you be more specific ?10:03
ChepollWhen I'm starting ubuntu, it says my hardware is not proper to start unity10:04
Ubuntu123Giles:same sort of problem as mine?10:04
Incarus6Giles, are you using Natty (11.04)?10:04
GilesUbuntu123: I am trying to find one10:04
bazhangmilen8204, you need to log out of unity then login window choose classic10:04
GilesIncarus6: yes.10:04
Chepolloh, it was "natty", byt the way, the one that I had to install upon boot10:04
ChepollI mean, I chose to install10:04
usb333I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"10:04
Ciccio89hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?10:04
milen8204bazhang, thanks I thing I geet it10:04
magn3tswait wait wait, UGR is gnome 3?10:05
magn3tsDon10:05
magn3tsDon't they realize 11.10 will come with gnom3?10:05
Acriaxmilen8204 the dropdown box to switch to classic is at the bottom of the screen after you've typed in your password10:05
PresuntoRJJordan_U: just got the RESULTS.txt on this notebook from the other system...10:05
GilesIncarus6: giles@masala:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:Ubuntu Description:Ubuntu 11.04 Release:11.04 Codename:natty10:05
bazhangmagn3ts, pardon?10:05
raven_shotwell: possible to display all images?10:05
PresuntoRJJordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601220/10:05
magn3tsUGR is a gnome 3 ubuntu variant... 11.10 will come with Gnome 3 available as well, so what's the point of UGR?10:06
magn3tsbazhang, ^10:06
milen8204Acriax,  thanks I understand now :D10:06
kaiyinPlease have a look at this: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/5906/10:06
bazhangmagn3ts, yes?10:06
Incarus6voidr, try: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/disable-integrated-graphics-before-new-card-install-513665/ disable the Intel graphic card, according to phoronix some GPUs from intelsandybridge aren't supported yet10:06
kaiyin is there any problem with the swap partition?10:06
magn3tsso what exactly is the point of UGR??10:06
voidrthanks Incarus610:06
bazhangmagn3ts, what precisely is ugr10:06
magn3tsUbuntu Gnome Remix10:07
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: I'm almost certain that your BIOS is booting from either sdb or sdc.10:07
magn3tsIt was in reaction to unity.10:07
bazhangmagn3ts, no such entity10:07
magn3ts?10:07
Ciccio89 hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?10:07
ejvwhats ugr10:07
magn3tshttp://ugr.teampr0xy.net/10:07
mbrochhhow can i prevent ubuntu from locking the screen after some idle time?10:07
Incarus6voidr, I think the Sandybridge will be fully supported later this year10:07
PresuntoRJJordan_U: it has detect the 320 (usual boot) and shows as the first in the boot order... and also lists the 1T as secondary, and the FreeAgent (USB) and third10:07
bazhangmagn3ts, completely unsupported derivate10:07
Tweakyincarus6: i dont see anything in software center that says sarvatt and i believe i only have standard repos on right now10:08
ejvthx magn3ts10:08
PresuntoRJJordan_U: there would be no reason for it to fail its own internal order10:08
usb333Guys, I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery".10:08
magn3tsbazhang, I understand.10:08
GilesIncarus6: where can I get "unity_support_test"10:08
ejvyea appears that way doesnt it bazhang10:08
gurmalhi ..again is there a alternate update rather than using sakis3g script for connecting to mobile network (kernel 2.6)10:08
ejvheheh10:08
magn3tsI'm asking for speculation as to why they're making their own distro.10:08
ejvcuz of freedom :)10:08
Incarus6Giles, it could be that not all packages are installed / upgraded properly. check the dependencies10:08
bazhangmagn3ts, speculation in #ubuntu-offtopic please10:08
PresuntoRJJordan_U: have just check after Incarus6 asked about it10:08
Ubuntu123Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?10:08
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: It could be that the drive is taking long enough to be ready that it's thinking it's not there. Also be sure you're not going by drive enumeration. Drive numbering can change and may not match the way that linux numbers them.10:09
Incarus6Tweaky, pls paste /etc/apt/sources.list10:09
sveinseCongratulations on Ubuntu Natty!10:09
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Do you have an option for a one time boot menu?10:09
ChepollNatty simple broke everything for me10:09
Chepoll.ask10:10
GilesIncarus6: How might I do that? I don't know which package to check the dependencies for...10:10
PresuntoRJJordan_U:  my fstabs are UUID only, I believe I have changed a while ago to display GRUB no matter what, with a timeout of 6 seconds10:10
ChepollAre we supposed to repeat our questions when they don't receive an answer?10:10
gurmalhey some1 please ..again is there a alternate update rather than using sakis3g script for connecting to mobile network (kernel 2.6)10:10
Incarus6Giles, try "aptitude" and "sudo apt-get install -f"10:10
PresuntoRJJordan_U: is that what you mean?10:10
bazhangChepoll, did not see one from you10:10
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Your fstab doesn't matter if your BIOS is loading the mbr of the wrong drive.10:10
atlef!patience |  Chepoll10:10
ubottuChepoll: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/10:10
lifeofguenterhi all10:11
magn3ts:/ hmpf.10:11
lifeofguenterhmm this is weird.. I can not connect to a certain IP (no matter what port)10:11
Ubuntu123Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?10:11
lifeofguenterbut I can ping that IP perfectly10:11
Incarus6Chepoll, please tell us more details in your question, maybe someone will answer it then10:11
PresuntoRJJordan_U: so what do you mean by "one time boot"  ?10:11
Ciccio89hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?10:11
PresuntoRJJordan_U: sorry if I dit not get it10:11
gurmal@Chepoll thats what Im doing10:11
Tweakyincarus6: http://pastebin.com/qdZC6T3410:11
GilesIncarus6: I issue aptitude, and it says package not installed, sudo apt-get install -f reports: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.10:12
Chepollbazhang, my error #1: before startx, I can launch "irssi" no problem. AFter I startx, when I try to launch irssi, it says "rxvt-256 color: unknown terminal type"10:12
HamzaHello , I have HP Notebook Pavilion dv6 , i7 , 4GB ram ... Ubuntu , Linux Mint stuck when shutting down or Restarting ! HOW to FIX THIS , i CAN't WORK ON WINDOWS !!!10:13
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Most BIOSs have an option to "Press F8 for a one time boot menu" (where F8 is just an example, the exact key is different for every BIOS). This will bring up a menu listing your drives and allow you to chose which drive to boot.10:13
Jordan_U!mint | Hamza10:13
ubottuHamza: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org10:13
dibsI am getting stuck when trying to updgrade to natty from mav. is this common?10:13
LaibschHi, I'm looking for help to get back a working initramfs to boot my encrypted LVM: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+question/154973/ (FWIW, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lvm2 && sudo update-initramfs -u -k all" as suggested earlier unfortunately did not do the trick)10:13
Incarus6Tweaky, "sudo aptitude clean && sudo aptitude update && sudo apt-get update", then try the aptitude download command again (use copy-paste, its faster)10:13
Hamzawell10:13
PresuntoRJJordan_U: ahhh... not sure if this system has the menu for boot order during the boot, I will check10:13
HamzaHello , I have HP Notebook Pavilion dv6 , i7 , 4GB ram ... Ubuntu , Linux Mint stuck when shutting down or Restarting ! HOW to FIX THIS , i CAN't WORK ON WINDOWS !!! Ubuntu 10.10 , 11.4 and 10.0410:13
dibsHamza: no one can work on windows?10:13
Hamzai tried them all on the same machine + FEDORA10:14
Ubuntu123Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?10:14
usb333I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"10:14
Hamzawell i using Linux since 1997 , never face such issue with my machines !10:14
Incarus6Hamza, this isn't an ubuntu related question, try it in #linux10:14
Ciccio89Ubuntu123, i have same problem10:15
Hamzaeven i am getting ready to get rid of this machne and get Dell i5 instead !10:15
Tweakyincarus6: i get the same error lol. would i be better off perhaps to backup and install new version?10:15
HamzaWELL it's MAINLY Ubuntu related , Question cause Ubuntu is my major issue ,10:15
Incarus6Tweaky, no10:15
Ubuntu123<Ciccio89>have u come up with a solution yet?10:15
HamzaUbuntu Stuck at Shutting DOWN10:15
Incarus6Hamza, but Linux Mint to, so it's a kernel issue10:15
Hamza10.04 , 10.10 and 11.04 :(10:15
PresuntoRJJordan_U: yes it does, and I have forced to use the HDD 322 (the sda1, also the first in the boot order)... it shows as if it has decompressed some linux image (long line of dots) and then, just blank again10:15
GilesHamza: try using the cap-locks key, then people might hear you ;)10:15
Hamzawell check those linux distros am trying for a WEEK10:16
HamzaUBUNTU's10:16
MaRk-I!mint | Hamza10:16
ubottuHamza: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org10:16
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Does it always show output before going blank?10:16
Ubuntu123Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?10:16
bazhangHamza, youre using MINT?10:16
gurmal@ hamza dude I am a novice my self but ... I think some problem with services or grub..... Try  forums .. Try diagnose things yourself ..be patient :)10:16
appi_uppihi, what is purpose of using .phd file10:16
PresuntoRJJordan_U: not sure... I can check10:16
Hamzaam not talking about LINXU MINT NOW10:16
Hamzanope using the lame 11.0410:16
HamzaUbuntu10:16
GilesUbuntu123: not very patient are we?10:16
Hamzanow and it stuck10:16
Hamzaas well10:16
Incarus6Ubuntu123, did you try to remove and reinstall?10:16
FloodBot1Hamza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:16
bazhangHamza, actual question? or just complaints10:17
Ubuntu123<Incarus6>yeah10:17
Incarus6bazhang, he just doesn't want to accept, that that is a kernel issue10:17
lifeofguenterdoes ubuntu have some sort of firewall activated by default?10:17
Tweakyincarus6: alright so whats the next step10:17
lifeofguenterI can't access a certain IP anymore10:17
Hamzawell Ubuntu 10.04 , 10.10 , 11.04 stuck at shutting down my machine10:17
bazhanglifeofguenter, iptables?10:17
Shaggy2I have a problem with rythmbox 0.12.8 on ubuntu 10.04the visualisations are lagging is like 1 image refresh per second10:17
lifeofguenteriptables are empty bazhang10:17
Hamzahow i can fix this !10:17
Incarus6lifeofguenter, most linux distributions got a firewall (her iptables)10:17
Ubuntu123Giles:iguess i am not :))....obsessed with the compiz10:18
bazhangHamza, need more info10:18
oussamaHamza, what machine you are using ?10:18
gurmal@hamza what does your system log say..whats the error10:18
Jordan_U!firewall | lifeofguenter10:18
ubottulifeofguenter: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.10:18
HamzaNO ERRORS just stuck .10:18
Jordan_UHamza: Please stop using all caps.10:19
usb333Guys, I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"10:19
MACscrhow do i change which monitor is my primary monitor?10:19
bazhangHamza, without errors its impossible to troubleshoot10:19
Hamzabazhang, HP i7 ,Pavilion dv6 , 4GB Rams  , ATI 1.5 G Graphics .10:19
GilesUbuntu123: heh, I did compiz --replace...10:19
incorrect1has anyone tried gnome3?10:19
lifeofguenterJordan_U, / Incarus6 iptables and ufw are deactivated - but I still can't access the IP10:19
Ubuntu123<Giles>did it work?10:19
PresuntoRJit blinks really fast to the black screen, but I could read something like:10:19
omnibrainso im installing ubuntu, what kind of partitions does it need, a swap (=size of my ram), a root / and anything else?10:19
PresuntoRJDMI Check............................................................................................10:19
ratcwhat's the purpose of a dummy upgrade package? firefox likes to use a lot of them it seems10:19
PresuntoRJAMD data change... Update to new10:19
bazhangincorrect1, got a question about it? its unsupported from a PPA10:19
GilesUbuntu123: I have window shadows but no wobbly windows.10:19
gurmalps i hate mec ....bye10:19
Hamzabazhang, the machine stuck i can't get error cause the splash screen !10:20
PresuntoRJJordan_U: then Boot from CD:10:20
PresuntoRJJordan_U: and blank10:20
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Jordan_UHamza: Try booting without the "splash" kernel parameter. That should disable the splash at boot and shutdown. Then if possible take a picture of the last output on the screen.10:20
incorrect1bazhang, i was wondering how stable it currently is, i've seen the ppa and i know it will trash unity10:20
bazhangHamza, then disable splash and note down the errors10:20
Acriaxis it possible to move the ubuntu bar from top to the bottom?10:20
Ubuntu123<Giles>and did unity work?10:20
bazhangincorrect1, not at all stable. avoid PPA10:20
Incarus6lifeofguenter, there is another "firewall" app, I can't remember the name, moment10:20
GilesUbuntu123: well compiz spat out : Profile     : unity10:20
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: None of that sounds like decompressing a kernel.10:20
kbrosnanratc: they are a common thing in the deb/apt-get package managemnet system10:21
GilesUbuntu123: amongst other things.10:21
incorrect1bazhang, thanks, i am just starting to find unity too incomplete for my desktop10:21
kbrosnanratc: they have nothing specific to do with Fireofx10:21
GilesUbuntu123: but, isn't unity supposed to have a different start menu?10:21
Hamzabazhang, i did that but the machine FREEZED10:21
incorrect1i figured i might try gnome310:21
Ubuntu123<Giles>so it worked to some extent10:21
PresuntoRJJordan_U: I am pretty sure it is the usual BIOS Post of my system... the ...................................... that called my attention before that looked like a kernel decompression10:21
MACscrnvm, figured it out. xrandr --output DVI-1 --primary seemed to do it10:21
Jordan_Uincorrect1: If you are thinking of firestarter please don't recommend it. There is a reason it was removed from the ubottu factoid.10:21
ratckbrosnan , so what purpose do they serve?10:21
Incarus6lifeofguenter, SElinux and/or apparmor10:22
omnibrainif i dont specify a home partition during install it will put it in "/"?10:22
GilesIncarus6: I think I am actually *in* unity all along, but I don't have the weird new menus10:22
Jordan_Uomnibrain: Yes.10:22
usb333Guys, I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"10:22
Incarus6Tweaky, where is the main repo?10:22
kbrosnanratc: don't know deb packaging well enough to say. i suspect they allow for validating or merging packages10:22
GilesIncarus6: Do I prehaps need to  reset my users desktop settings?10:22
dibshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/601231/ how can I fix this so I can upgrade, being trying to get help since yesterday10:23
Incarus6Giles, No. Did you restart your computer and tried to select the Unity desktop again?10:23
MnCCin search of a good backup utility .. any recommendations ? i must be able to backup/restore my ubuntu partition10:23
bazhangdibs, try another mirror yet?10:23
Incarus6Tweaky, nevermind, its in line 5 i think10:23
PresuntoRJJordan_U: so, I still don see any reason why it wont boot... in the live I can see the files are in the correct position... I have md5sum check them with my laptop, the /etc/grub seems sane, why would it be gone? is there a way to force the update-grub2 and update-initramfs -u from the live CD onto my "dead" system?10:24
Ciccio89hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?10:24
bazhang!sbackup | MnCC10:24
ubottuMnCC: sbackup is a tool to create complete and/or incremental backups (which can be scheduled to be automatic, and can be done over a network). It is available in !Universe10:24
mouseOkay for some reason ubuntu won't recognize a certain bootable usb device.  It will mount/unmount others but not this one.  And I can still boot from it so I know the usb hasn't gone bad.  How do I mount it or reformat it?10:24
GilesYeah, after removing the Nvidia drivers yes, and when I logged back in I get the classic desktop, but the menu bar "slides" down (a visual effect)10:24
talntidMnCC, duplicity10:24
omnibrainomg what partition should i select for the bootloader10:24
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MnCCthanx10:24
GilesIncarus6: Yeah, after removing the Nvidia drivers yes, and when I logged back in I get the classic desktop, but the menu bar "slides" down (a visual effect)10:24
Jordan_Uomnibrain: Do *not* install grub's boot sector to a partition. Install it to the mbr.10:24
GilesIncarus6: How can I enable the other visual effects, such as wobbly windows?10:25
dibsbazhang: how do I change to a different Mirror. I was hoping to get from a NZ one if possible10:25
ratckbrosnan , i think i understand now. if you install something by hand, it won't show up in you packet manager, and if some package require an other that is installed by hand, a dummy package needs to be installed so the package can't complain a package can't be found10:25
Incarus6Tweaky, I have no Idea why you can't download these packages. I think you have to download all of these by hand (packages.ubuntu.com, allways from "maverick")10:25
Bojan_Icarus6 install ubuntu tweak10:25
omnibrainJordan_U, where is the mbr, is it "/dev/sda1 Windows 7 (loader) ?10:25
bazhangdibs, in synaptic package manager , if memory serves10:25
Incarus6Giles, I don't know, I'm using KDE. Unity isn't working for me10:26
Jordan_Uomnibrain: No. It is /dev/sda10:26
Bojan_or just change to wobly in compiz10:26
omnibrainok10:26
GilesBojan_: How do I configure compiz?10:26
bazhang!ccsm | Giles10:26
ubottuGiles: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz10:26
Gilesbazhang: ta10:27
Tweakyincarus6: alright10:27
PresuntoRJJordan_U: any ideas ?10:27
Bojan_thats it ubottu10:27
Incarus6Tweaky, so please download them in one directory (also the "security" packages)10:27
andeeeukdo not whatever you do upgrade to gnome3 it is a pile of shit!!!10:27
kabanhello10:27
andeeeukskrews everything up!10:27
Bojan_will have to log out and log in again if you are using unity10:27
bazhangandeeeuk, no cursing10:27
Bojan_after changing to wobly10:27
Incarus6!gnome3 | andeeeuk10:28
ubottuandeeeuk: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.10:28
andeeeukgreat absolutly great!!!10:28
Bojan_gnome 3 ppa chrashes unity10:28
PresuntoRJandeeeuk: not because its bad, but because it changes most of the libraries to Gnome3 and Ubuntu (Natty included, specially Unity) uses Gnome210:28
andeeeukbreaks everything10:28
andeeeukhow can i get it all back10:28
andeeeuklol10:28
Bojan_jap10:28
andeeeuki cant seem to do anything now :s10:28
Incarus6andeeeuk, "safe downgrading is not possible."10:28
bazhangandeeeuk, #ubuntu-offtopic for complaints. here for actual support10:29
Bojan_yap i reinstalled10:29
kabanI upgrade my ubuntu do 11.04 serverx does not start... here is my log: http://wklej.org/id/521203/ how can I solve this problem?10:29
andeeeukoh my days!!!!10:29
Incarus6Tweaky, write me if you finished10:29
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Follow this guide: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide and run grub-install against all of your drives. If that doesn't fix things then please file a bug report.10:29
PresuntoRJJordan_U: sorry man, are you still online?10:29
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Also try holding shift during boot.10:29
AcriaxIs it possible to use Ubuntu Classic with the Unity color scheme?10:30
PresuntoRJJordan_U: I will see what I can do ;) be right back10:30
Incarus6kaban, reinstall fglrx10:30
AcriaxFor me it keeps the dark gray color scheme for about 10-15 seconds after login, and the switches over to the oldschool plain light grey one.10:30
milen8204what was the name of music editing program audacacy or some like that ?10:30
Acriaxaudacity10:31
Bojan_audacity10:31
Ubuntu_useranybody facing problem with windows 7 and ubuntu dual boot, i have found fixed soulution?10:31
milen8204Acriax, thanks you saving me today :D10:31
kabanthanks incarus6, i will try :)10:31
spiralsWhich package provides tab completion for various utilities in the shell? Vanilla Debian doesn't do that10:31
Jordan_Uspirals: bash-completion10:32
spiralsJordan_U, thanks!10:32
Jordan_Uspirals: You're welcome.10:32
Acriaxso anyone know why it is switching back to the light grey colour-scheme after a few seconds?10:32
Tetsuo55lol this a funny bug, i switched to a higher resolution and all the windows are stuck in the old resolution10:33
doogluswhen I update, apt-get gives me an error message:10:33
dooglusW: GPG error: http://server natty InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 210:33
loseweighttttttti keep getting 'failiure in name resolution' what should i do?10:33
dooglusis it safe?10:33
loseweightttttttthis happens when i try to yum update or yum install10:33
bazhangloseweighttttttt, yum?10:33
Incarus6loseweighttttttt, are you suing opensuse?10:33
loseweightttttttyes yum10:34
loseweightttttttno im using centos10:34
bazhangloseweighttttttt, wrong channel10:34
Incarus6bazhang, I think its the opensuse "apt-get"10:34
Incarus6or centos10:34
andeeeukso what can i do to get my ubuntu back to its original state?10:34
M0TRNloseweighttttttt, why are you asking Centos question in #ubuntu?10:34
loseweightttttttno1 is talking in centos though10:34
bazhang#centos loseweighttttttt10:34
loseweighttttttti was hoping some1 here could help10:34
loseweighttttttti know its not the correct channel but10:34
bazhangloseweighttttttt, then be patient10:34
dooglusI'm asking an ubuntu question10:34
bazhangloseweighttttttt, no10:34
loseweightttttttit is a kind of general question not specific to any operating system10:34
loseweightttttttso please help10:34
loseweightttttttPLEASE!!!!!!!!!!10:34
FloodBot1loseweighttttttt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:35
M0TRNloseweighttttttt, no its not10:35
bazhangloseweighttttttt, be patient in #centos10:35
Incarus6loseweighttttttt, change the mirror. and dont ask here10:35
loseweightttttttwhat takes more effort10:35
loseweighttttttttelling me to change channel10:35
loseweightttttttor10:35
Incarus6dooglus, looks like a typo10:35
loseweightttttttjust helping me?10:35
FloodBot1loseweighttttttt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:35
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Ubuntu_user!please | loseweighttttttt10:35
ubottuloseweighttttttt: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude10:35
bazhangloseweighttttttt, stop.10:36
loseweightttttttfine10:36
linuxPlease!10:36
doogluswhen I update, apt-get gives me an error message: "W: GPG error: http://server natty InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2".  what does that mean?10:36
loseweighttttttti take it ubuntu doesnt have yum10:36
bazhangloseweighttttttt, no it does not10:36
andeeeukbazhang is it possibly to get back to my original version on ubuntu 11.04?10:37
Incarus6dooglus, http://server is not a valid server10:37
dooglusIncarus6: it's my apt-cacher server10:37
bazhangandeeeuk, version of what10:37
Incarus6andeeeuk, install another desktop, remove gnome and reinstall gnome again10:37
Bojan_wish thayve changed the notification system in unity, better on gnome 3 much bether10:37
dooglusIncarus6: it's worked for years, and still works ("Get:1 http://server/security/ natty-security/main firefox-globalmenu i386 4.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 [50.5 kB]") - but I'm getting that GPG error since yesterday10:37
andeeeukbazhang gnome is not intsalled and will not reinstall again because of dependancies10:37
Incarus6dooglus, it could be that something had changed, that it doesn't work anymore10:38
bazhangandeeeuk, were you using the unsupported PPA of gnome3?10:38
fcuk112what's the best way to fix iphone mount support in natty?10:38
andeeeukno i was using the official10:38
Incarus6bazhang, he installed gnome3 and is trying to revert to gnome210:38
loseweightttttttanyway i solved the problem10:38
bazhangandeeeuk, there is no official gnome310:38
loseweightttttttchanged the nameserver in resolve.conf10:38
loseweightttttttthanks for the help, !thanks10:39
loseweighttttttt!sarcasm10:39
DirtyDawgloseweighttttttt: try ##linux10:39
andeeeukok well i was sure it was the right one10:39
Incarus6loseweighttttttt, should I call OP?10:39
loseweightttttttit wont let me type in there10:39
bazhangIncarus6, no need10:39
clakesis there any advantage in runnin a classic ubuntu on 11.04 as opposed to 10.10?10:39
bazhangclakes, depends on you10:40
Incarus6still downloading, Tweaky?10:40
dFshadowanyone pull off dual boot on an existing macbook pro with the latest ubuntu?10:40
dFshadowfrom a USB10:40
dFshadowto boot from the USB to install i mean10:40
PresuntoRJJordan_U: I am still going to try the chroot, but just FYI, holding the SHIFT during the boot will also write a Loading GRUB message, but still gets me no where but to the blank screen... could it be an impossibly high resolcution setting for the GRUB menu no to show?10:40
clakesi mean... i upgraded to natty but only noticed themeing issues so far10:40
WallydFshadow like option boot?10:41
clakeselegant gnome won't stick on a standard ubuntu session10:41
bazhangclakes, you can use classic, unity 3d or install 2d if your card does not support 3d10:41
dFshadowN'Wally: not sure what option boot refers to10:41
zaf_hi there10:41
WitchsongNo one here knows how to add another icon set to LibreOffice?10:41
WallyWhen you boot your mac, hold down option.. you should see your USB drive there.10:41
zaf_i have a problem with webmin and mon10:42
zaf_can anyone help me10:42
bazhangWitchsong, tried the libreoffice channel yet?10:42
clakesthank you bazhang10:42
bazhang!webmin | zaf_10:42
ubottuzaf_: webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system.10:42
dFshadowyeah but i need to prep another partition before i do that to install the OS to, don't i?10:42
WitchsongYeah, but no answer there. Was hoping maybe someone here knew. :)10:42
MACscrbtw, where should we go to properly bitch about unity? I mean "give feedback"?10:42
Wallyyeah use the Bootcamp Assistant.10:42
dFshadowk10:42
bazhangMACscr, #ubuntu-offtopic I suppose10:42
WallydFshadow quite personally, you'd be better off running it as a VM though10:42
loseweightttttttis ubuntu even used for servers? isn't it just a desktop thing10:42
bazhangloseweighttttttt, yes there is a server edition10:43
dFshadowwhy do you say that? my windows install inside a VM is so sluggish that i rarely use it10:43
PresuntoRJloseweighttttttt: no, as every linux, its a server thing before and foremost10:43
MACscrbazhang: im not wanting to chat, i want to give feedback to the developers so they actually know what their users are thinking10:43
bazhang!server > loseweighttttttt10:43
ubottuloseweighttttttt, please see my private message10:43
zaf_well what can i ude instead webmin10:43
WallyWhat sort of Mac do you have?10:43
Incarus6loseweighttttttt, canonical got a good support for companys10:43
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bazhangMACscr, brainstorm then10:43
PresuntoRJloseweighttttttt: but it also has a nice desktop (GUI) on top10:43
Wallyand are you using Virtual box over VMware?10:43
dFshadowmacbook pro 5.1 - first gen unibody10:43
bazhang!brainstorm | MACscr10:43
ubottuMACscr: Post your ideas for Ubuntu at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com and vote for the ones you like!10:43
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: The grub loading tells a lot. I forgot that Ubuntu disables that as well unless you're holding shift. Yes, it coould be that grub is trying to set the resolution too high. If you follow the guide I linked to and uncomment GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /etc/default/grub (before running grub-mkconfig) then it should disable the mode setting by grub.10:43
dFshadow4GB RAM10:43
loseweighttttttthmm10:43
dibsHELPP!!!!  I can't upgrade, it just dies but here's the result from my sudo do-release-upgrade. http://paste.ubuntu.com/601236/10:44
dFshadow2.53GHz c2d10:44
loseweighttttttti've never seen ubuntu offered as os on any hosting companies10:44
WallydFshadow if you're not using VMware then there's a problem10:44
WallyXP runs fine on my Mid 2010 13" MBP10:44
PresuntoRJJordan_U: when I chroot, you mean?10:44
dibsdoesn't dreamhost use some ubuntu?10:44
Incarus6dibs, you used foreign repo sources, pls poste "apt.log"10:44
Incarus6*paste10:44
dFshadowfor windows i used parallels, not VMWare10:44
dibsIncarus6: ty, will post10:44
WallyEwww10:44
WallyThats even worse than VirtualBox10:44
WallyTry Vmware.10:45
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Yes.10:45
kabanhello again, I reinstalled fglrx but the same problem...10:45
dFshadowhmm ok10:45
Neo_Kipl1ngI just updated system by apt-get, and found out its still version 10.10, is 11.40 really released?10:45
Incarus6Neo_Kipl1ng, apt-get isn't supposed to upgrade your system, try "update-manager"10:46
andeeeukgnome3 destroys everything no not install it!!!10:46
DirtyDawg:o10:46
RzizHm, where are gdm's theming settings stored? In gconf in /var/lib/gdm?10:47
Incarus6!upgrade | Neo_Kipl1ng10:47
ubottuNeo_Kipl1ng: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade10:47
Neo_Kipl1ngIncarus6: i tried update-manager -d, same thing10:47
PresuntoRJJordan_U: I cannot chroot following the steps there... it complains10:47
PresuntoRJbash: groups: command not found10:47
PresuntoRJJordan_U: using Lucid 32bits as Live10:47
Incarus6Neo_Kipl1ng, "-d" means, that you upgrade to the next unstable version, which isn't released yet, try without "-d"10:47
kabanIncarus6: i uninstalled fglrx, moved folders /usr/lib/fglrx and /usr/lib32/fglrx to have clear install and installed it again - no resutls10:47
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: After what command?10:48
Soothsayerwhy do I keep getting the "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!"10:48
Neo_Kipl1ngIncarus6: thanks, i will try10:48
PresuntoRJJordan_U: just when I try to chroot10:48
dibsIncarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601238/ please help. I had only just switched to the fastest mirror which was near-by10:48
Soothsayerafter 11.04 installation, my laptop is kinda acting weird10:48
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: What is the exact command you are running?10:48
KeshlTo whoever tried to help me with Wubi a few days ago: Thanks for your help, we got it working now. Rev 211 fixed the bug, it doesn't download a live image and get a version mismatch anymore. Just saying, figured I should let you guys know.10:48
Soothsayerit doesn't boot at times.. gives that fixing recursive fault , ...10:48
Shaggy2I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter10:49
PresuntoRJJordan_U: the mounts work, even with the --bind... and chroot does not... I believe the binding with sys is the cause10:49
PresuntoRJJordan_U: not sure how then10:49
Incarus6kaban, did 10.10 work for you? something is buggy with the driver, or your hardware isn't supported "[   228.444] (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported"10:49
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: What is the exact command you are running?10:49
kabanIncarus6: it worked in 10.10 very well, compiz and so on works fine10:50
Incarus6dibs, now paste same file, but with: "cat apt.log | grep Broken"10:50
snowrichardfinally got all the packages downloaded for 11.04 upgrade10:50
snowrichardit says installing them is another 2 hrs10:51
VustomWhere can I find that folder in the Ubuntu directory that has all the launchers for my currently installed applications?10:51
PresuntoRJJordan_U: just told you... as the link you have sent me... http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide10:51
PresuntoRJ1- sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt10:51
PresuntoRJ2- sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev10:51
PresuntoRJ3- sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc10:51
PresuntoRJ4- sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys10:51
FloodBot1PresuntoRJ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:51
PresuntoRJ5- sudo chroot /mnt10:51
PresuntoRJJordan_U: message10:51
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: I just asked you for the single command. I'm sorry but you'd be amazed at what people actually run when they say their following a guide.10:52
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: I have no idea why you're getting that error and I need to get some sleep.10:52
PresuntoRJJordan_U: sorry, the single command I have runned that got the message was, as told before, sudo chroot /mnt10:53
Incarus6kaban, sounds like a regression to me, I would report that as bug to the ubuntu bug tracker.. sry, can't help you with that issue10:53
PresuntoRJJordan_U: but that could be understood by you as if I have jumped steps, and I wanted to demonstrate I have not...10:53
Shaggy2I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter10:53
PresuntoRJJordan_U: still, no chroot :-(10:53
Vustomno help? D:10:53
kabanincarus6: I will try with pure install, many thanks :)10:54
Incarus6Vustom, I think they are located in a config file, not in a folder10:54
MrokiiHello. I have upgraded to 11.04 and wanted to see if the nvidia-drivers are installed. Turns out they are "active" but not "in use". How can I actually use them?10:54
VustomThere in a folder, I went there before but forgot how to get back. D:10:54
Incarus6kaban, do you think that will fix it? I would try the live cd (or a persistent live usb stick) first10:54
Incarus6Mrokii, enable them in "jockey"10:55
MrokiiIncarus6: erm... what is jokey?10:55
cousin_mariohello10:55
kabanIncarus6: I will try livecd first, of course, we will see what happen10:55
blurghHas anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse? Or is it depending on developers to fix it?10:55
Neo_Kipl1ngIncarus6: looks like i must do this: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal  thanks anyway10:55
Incarus6Mrokii, type it in the application search form, it will be shown up as "hardware drivers" or something10:56
nubcakeany ideas why i cant install vmware server (stuck at: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running10:56
nubcakekernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]) i keep getting told: The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-28-server" is an existing directory,10:56
nubcakebut it does not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.10:56
cousin_marioI had to install the nvidia binary driver from a PPA (v 270) because nvidia-current was lamenting a missing dependency. The new driver sucks though. Is there a way to install the stock one?10:56
MrokiiIncarus6: ah, okay, but that is what I had already opened (looking for "driver"). The problem is: There is no activate button anywhere.10:56
Incarus6Neo_K1pl1ing, you can simply run "do-release-upgrade -mode=Normal"10:56
Vustomnvm10:56
Vustomgot it.10:56
Vustomgksu nautilus /usr/share/applications10:56
Vustom:D10:57
FloodBot1Vustom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.10:57
muneebhi, i'm having problem with flashplugin-installer on Natty 64bit10:57
Shaggy2I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter10:57
nubcakeanyone?10:57
Incarus6Mrokii, but the driver is listed in the list in that application?10:57
dibsIncarus6: it's more than I can fit in my bash window. How can I save it to a file for pasting10:58
MrokiiIncarus6: yes, and at the bottom of the window is this: "This driver is activated but not currently in use." Does that mean I need to do a restart to activate it?10:58
Incarus6kaban, or a perstistent usb stick, im not sure if fglrx is used as default graphic card driver in the live cd10:58
muneebanyone?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601250/10:58
Neo_Kipl1ngIncarus6: its very good, thank you10:58
cousin_mariohas anyone encountered problems with nvidia-current requiring xorg-video-abi-9 ?10:58
PresuntoRJJordan_U: I think I have figured this out, my /usr is on a different partition and I have to mount it before I chroot ;)10:59
Incarus6dibs, i think you can save it in a file by adding " > FILE.XYZ" at the end of the command10:59
slideI'm having problems with XChat and Unities app bar. It keeps opening up new copies instead of bringing the current running instance of xchat up to the front10:59
muneebi'm not able to use unity... when i start it i get desktop without any sidebar or topbar10:59
AcriaxI don''t get why themes don't apply for me. I can select themes in the appearance preferences, and only that window changes. The application bar and all other windows have a plain grey skin. This is in ubuntu classic11:00
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dFshadowwoot VMWare installing now11:00
Incarus6muneeb, that could help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=172127311:01
muneebIncarus6, thanks i'll look into it11:01
pdfmanmerhabalar,turkcr bian var mi?11:01
pdfmanکسی فارسی بلده؟11:02
blurghHas anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse? Or is it depending on developers to fix it?11:02
Incarus6!ar | pdfman11:02
ubottupdfman: La comunidad local de Argentina se puede encontrar en #ubuntu-ar y en su canal de offtopic: #ubuntu-ar-cafe11:02
Incarus6hu?11:02
Incarus6!ara | pdfman11:03
cousin_marioAnyone using nvidia binary driver on natty?11:03
Incarus6cousin_mario, yes, me11:03
VustomWhere do I go to select Deluge when I choose to Open with.. when downloading a .torrent file in Firefox?11:03
PresuntoRJJordan_U: I have managed to chroot now, and completed the steps... no error messages, for all my HDDs... lets see if it boot now !11:04
pdfmanیشه منو راهنمایی کنین لطفا11:04
cousin_marioIncarus6: is it shown in the hardware drivers tool?11:04
Incarus6!arz | pdfman11:04
Incarus6cousin_mario, yes11:04
preyas__hey sir i want gnome shell in ubuntu11:04
cousin_marioIncarus6: did you upgrade from maverick or was yours a fresh install?11:04
preyas__how can i get it11:04
pdfmanشما فارسی ندارین؟11:05
Incarus6cousin_mario, I did an upgrade11:05
cousin_marioIncarus6: I see...11:05
Incarus6cosuin_mario, isn't it working for you?11:05
preyas__any1??11:05
preyas__help11:05
preyas__needed11:05
cousin_marioIncarus6: no, I had to install it by hand but then compiz effects aren't available11:05
MrokiiIncarus6: I have found something on the net. Will try a restart.11:06
Soothsayerwhy does Nautilus kinda get hung when I'm safely removing a pen drive!11:06
preyas__any1 help11:06
lugkhastpreyas__: IIRC it's available from a PPA11:06
someone235is there a way to integrate thunderbird's calendar with unity's calendar?11:06
Incarus6pdfman, ما نمی توانیم به فارسی.11:06
preyas__but if we will install it we cant use unity again i think11:06
cousin_marioIncarus6: thanks11:06
preyas__i want both11:07
Incarus6cousin_mario, you're welcome11:07
preyas__and also the size of gnome pack is 336 mb11:07
dibsIncarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601253/ thanks for looking into this eh11:07
preyas__any other ubuntu help channel11:07
preyas__sad11:07
cousin_marioIncarus6: is it i386 or amd64 you're using?11:08
chilli0Hello, I just upgraded to 11.04 and it's well I guess okay. I however don't like the whole banshee thing. How can I change rhymbox to be the default player again?11:08
pdfmanزشد شدغخدث سعححخقف هد بشقسه حمثشسث؟11:08
PresuntoRJJordan_U: I have got the grub menu now showing as text (good), but as soon as I select the kernel I want, it goes black instead of plymouth... even if I wait long enough for the login to show (and the HDDs stop, probably after a long fsck), nothing ! :-(11:08
pdfmancan anyone support in farsi please?11:08
kaushalHi11:08
Incarus6dibs, try "sudo aptitude download network-manager" and install it with "sudo dpkg -i network-manager*.deb"11:08
kaushalCan someone please guide me about Networking Issues ?11:08
dFshadowoh damn i was trying to dual boot but VMWare is like fucking autopilot...easy as cake...11:09
PresuntoRJJordan_U: I have even tried to blindly press enter and type my password, and enter... just in case... still nothing11:09
Jordan_U!farsi | pdfman11:09
ubottupdfman: #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast. #ubuntu-ir  برای فارسی زبانان می‌باشد که کانال رسمی گروه ایرانی اوبونتو است.11:09
PresuntoRJJordan_U: even if I Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get to a console... nothing11:09
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Try recovery mode.11:09
pdfmanok m3011:09
Incarus6Thank you, Jordan_U. dibs, and do you really need awant-window-navigator? its causing problems, pls remove that too11:10
lugkhastpreyas__: You may have more luck with it in 11.1011:10
PresuntoRJJordan_U: in the grub menu ?11:10
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Yes.11:10
MrokiiIncarus6: Still no success. Do you have any ideas on how I can use the nvidia-drivers?11:11
preyas__lugkhast, means??11:11
Incarus6Mrokii, paste "glxinfo"11:11
terseintTrying to apt-get phppgadmin and want to run it on adiffernt webserver, but when I try to "apt-get install phppgadmin" it tells that it willeven download apache. I don't wat to download pache11:12
jigynetfirefoxjava keeps crashing in my xubuntu/wubi install??11:12
preyas__lugkhast, ifound it in repo by adding PPA and selected gnome shell11:12
html_inprogresshi yall11:12
preyas__lugkhast, will it do my job11:12
Incarus6jigynet, are you using 10.10?11:13
vampirehallo11:13
jigyneti believe so11:13
vampirehello11:13
Incarus6jigynet, that was fixed in 11.04, it happend to me in 10.10 too11:13
PresuntoRJJordan_U: it show a quiq text, then black, then old school echos of whatever is on the boot... fixed the discs accordingly... lets see now11:13
jigynet=/11:13
jigynetok i'll update11:13
dibsIncarus6: I have installed and uninstalled as you mentioned. What should I do next?11:13
MrokiiIncarus6: one moment, trying something. Maybe I need to do another restart. If so, I will paste the output from glxinfo afterwards.11:13
chilli0Hello, I just upgraded to 11.04 and it's well I guess okay. I however don't like the whole banshee thing. How can I change rhymbox to be the default player again?11:13
Incarus6jigynet, its related with the new hardware acceleration feature of adobes flashplugin11:14
jigynetany issues with updateing wubi 10.10 to 11?11:14
preyas__chilli, yes11:14
vampirehow can i make my irc on my ip11:14
jigynetvampire..what?11:14
PresuntoRJJordan_U: on the next boot, still no plymouth... takes for ever, but eventually it got me to the login screen !!! :-D finally11:14
milen8204What I need to do to mount one partition to my /home folder ?11:15
jigynet!wubi 11.0411:15
jibadeehachilli0, remove Banshee11:15
PresuntoRJJordan_U: a million error on kern.log (apport indicates on login)... :-p lets see now11:15
Incarus6dibs, I need another paste. pleas apt.log again with "cat apt.log | grep Breaks"11:15
vampireHow do I put my irc on my ip instead of localhost11:15
jigynet!bug list11:15
jigynetlol11:15
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: It sounds like you have hardware that needs to be blacklisted from the new early mode setting feature. *please* file a bug report as this should be easy to fix so that future users with the same hardware don't run into the same problem.11:16
jigynetwhoops11:16
jigynetsorry about that11:16
jigynetlocal host is your ip..11:16
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: And please subscribe me, jordanu, to the launchpad bug report.11:16
PresuntoRJJordan_U: the system seems kind of broken yet... I am on Ubuntu-classic, and no window decoration, title bar, nothing... just an edge, menu and terminal or just nautilus...11:17
lehel_how can i costumize the top bar in 11.04? thanks11:17
jigynetif you change the local host ip it would mess up some things11:17
Incarus6dibs, and type "sudo apt-get remove awn-settings-trunk python-awn-trunk avant-window-navigator-trunk awn-applets-c-core-trunk awn-applets-python-core-trunk awn-applets-c-extras-trunk  avant-window-navigator-data-trunk  awn-applets-python-extras-trunk11:17
vampireno when I want to connect to my ip it don't want11:17
PresuntoRJJordan_U: what package ?11:17
Psychobudgielehel_, you can't11:17
preyas__chilli0,11:17
chilli0jibadeeha, Yeah I did. However when I use like my buttons on my keyboards it gives me an error saying no such command banshee. When the keyboard command is set to default music player.11:17
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: Goodnight.11:17
Jordan_UPresuntoRJ: grub-pc11:17
preyas__chilli0,11:17
PresuntoRJJordan_U: to file the bug under...11:17
PresuntoRJJordan_U: ok, I will try11:17
preyas__chilli0, go to preffered applications11:17
jigynetvampire, you can't connect to your pc through the same device already used..11:18
preyas__and then select rhytmbox11:18
HaltEh, im using xchat, and i cant seem to get it to auto join channels.11:18
Haltit just doesn't join them11:18
jibadeehapreyas__, but isn't that just for multimedia?11:18
lehel_thanx11:18
chilli0preyas__, Thank you very much :)11:18
PresuntoRJJordan_U: FYI, I have an nvidia card, runing the nvidia non-free xorg drivers ;)11:18
jigynetvampire have you tried connecting via another pc on the same network same os?11:18
preyas__jibadeeha, wat11:18
zniavrelehel_,  you can only modify the shadow-panel the rest is hardcoded11:18
vampireno11:19
PsychobudgieHalt, make sure there are no spaces between the channels i.e. should be #ubuntu,#ubuntu-uk11:19
dibsIncarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601255/  have uninstalled all those packages11:19
kaushalIs there a way to set alert for packet losses ?11:19
preyas__jibadeeha, what is not for multimedia??11:19
Neo_Kipl1ngupdate to 11.40: Need to get 2,199MB of archives. Oh, god! it's too much11:19
preyas__jibadeeha, i din't understood11:19
jigynetanother way to connect to the pc you are currently useing, is to use another wifi adapter to connect to an ethernet device on the same network or another wifi device that is free, on that pc11:20
jibadeehapreyas__, if i were to set the multimedia player to rhythmbox what would happen if i selected a video11:20
jigynetbut what exactly are you trying to do, remote connect?11:20
HaltPsycho, there isn't.11:20
Haltwhich is why its weird.11:20
Nece228hello!11:20
Incarus6dibs, pls paste "apt-cache policy network-manager"11:21
lucasi need big help11:21
batmanhi11:21
kaushalis there a Networking channel under ubuntu ?11:21
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Nece228hello!11:21
Nece228will unity work on live cd with my nvidia 9500gt?11:21
jigynetwhy kaushal?11:21
lucasbasically i ahve ubntu 11.04. i installed gnome 3 and now it wont boot under gnome 3.11:21
Incarus6Nece228, it is supposed to work, yes11:21
preyas__kaushal, u from india11:21
lucasit gets stuck at the screen with the white writing11:21
kaushalpreyas__: yes11:22
preyas__kaushal, me too11:22
lucascan i possibly change back to unity during bottup?11:22
Incarus6lucas, but the login screen is shwoing up?11:22
Nece228Incarus6: with nouveau? cool11:22
RehanIs it possible to use open source nouveau drivers for plymouth and grub2 but use nvidia drivers once i login?11:22
jigynetwhat dos the white writeing say?11:22
kaushaljigynet: where can i seek help for Networking issue ?11:22
lucasno it doesnt get that fat11:22
Nece228Incarus6: because i need to try unity before ill install it11:22
lucasfar*11:22
preyas__kaushal, what your problem11:22
Incarus6Nece228, should work with the proprietary driver too11:22
preyas__kaushal, i mean prob in ubuntu11:22
kaushalpreyas__: its a networking issue11:22
preyas__kaushal, say11:23
preyas__join me privatly11:23
dibsIncarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601259/ cheers11:23
jigynetkaushal please ask your questions here..or specific channels for specific os's like xubuntu etc have their own channels, but this one covers all issues with ubuntu regardless11:23
lucascan i change the desktop environment during boot up?11:23
Incarus6lucas, it doesn't seem to be an unity issue, more a gdm issue. try to reinstall gdm (/or try kdm instead). is the boot logo plymouth shown up?11:23
jigynetparticularly support issues11:23
Incarus6lucas, no11:23
vampireit don't work11:24
MrokiiIncarus6: This is the output from glxinfo: http://pastebin.com/Hs8x8WB811:24
zak_how to transfer files (250 GB) from my pc and my new laptop?11:24
jigynetSo, please fel free to include more details on your networking issues11:24
lucasit gets to the step after the splash screen but doesnt get tyo the boot screen11:24
zak_how to transfer files (250 GB) from my pc to my new laptop?11:24
RehanIs it possible to use open source nouveau drivers for plymouth and grub2 but use nvidia drivers once i login?11:24
rlyzak_: not by getting kicked from the channel, I suppose.11:24
lucasthe last line reads "stopping systen V runlevel compatibility"11:24
Incarus6dibs, it could be that awn prevented the system from upgrading, try it again.11:24
cousin_mariozak_: smb is your friend11:24
o_zak: use dd command11:25
lucasand it boots up no further11:25
jigynetvampire, what exactly are you trying to do?11:25
lucasAid please?11:26
batguesthi11:26
Akashaahi! I'm installing Ubuntu 10.10 LTS on a new MSI cx623. it has freedos installed only. at the installation my hard drive is not recognised. I've tried the "pci=nomsi" option that I've found on the net, but it did not work. Could someone help me, please?11:26
batguesti'm using unity and i'm curious if i can remove the workspace switcher11:26
batguesteither by deleting a file, un-installing *something*, gconf or...?11:26
Incarus6lucas, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/752393 could be related11:26
ubottuUbuntu bug 752393 in lsb (Ubuntu Natty) "lsb init scripts show line buffering problems on bootup" [Medium,Fix released]11:26
batguesti've disabled the expo plugin in ccsm but the icon remains in the launcher11:27
zak_how to transfer files (250 GB) from my pc to my new laptop?11:27
dibsIncarus6: Awesome, thanks, your a credit to this OS11:27
jigynetaka are u sure it has a hd??freedos can be run from cmos??11:27
linuxOh, no.11:27
jigynetor a flash drive..11:27
lucasincarus6, sadly this doesnt help. im not that tech savvy with ubuntu yet11:27
linuxWhat is flash drive.11:27
Soothsayerhow do you install flash player for Firefox?11:28
Incarus6dibs, try if it works. one of these packages is causing the issue11:28
jigynetlol11:28
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vampirehow do I put also a game on localhost11:28
Incarus6lucas, are you still using the alpha or beta release?11:28
Incarus6!flash | Soothsayer11:28
ubottuSoothsayer: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash11:28
lucasim using the final release. i was asked if id like to upgrade on login11:28
jigyneta flash drive is often a usb device that uses ddr solid state technology to store data11:28
Incarus6lucas, strange. sry, I dont know how to fix that11:29
jigyneta game is not seeing your local host i[p?11:29
lucasis there no way to get to login screen with a debug option or something?11:29
lucasi just need to log in or get to that screen11:29
Curly_QVampire if you are running a daemon on your Linux box your localhost is 127.0.0.1 connect to that IP address.11:30
jigynetlucas have you tried to restore it with recovery mode?11:30
varunvyasHi all thanks, I am now on 11.0411:30
jigynetvampire do u have a fw?11:30
kezzawdHi all - I'm on Natty and some appindicators are installed but I can't find how to load them - indicator-cpufreq for instance - any ideas ??11:30
lucasexplain how i do that please11:30
varunvyasI wanted to know where is adminstration and system tab movd ?11:30
andeeeukis there anyway to reinstall ubuntu 11.04 after you have installed gnome3?11:30
Incarus6dibs, still here? pls paste "apt-cache policy libreoffice-core"11:30
kezzawdu could try sudo apt-get purge gnome 3 && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?11:31
truckfacei am on ubuntu 10.10 and would now like to run the upgrade to 11.04... i have a hp g62 with ATI gfx-card... are there any reported error which makes an upgrade troublesome to do ?11:31
lucasno worries. it just worked...11:32
varunvyas?11:32
jigynetwell, if you dont know how, then there is alot there you wont know.. are you familiar with sudo apt-get dpkg-reconfigure unity?11:32
jigynetye that11:32
lucaswhat the hell?!11:32
jigynetwhat kezz said11:32
andeeeukkezzawd thanks i will give it a go11:32
Incarus6andeeeuk, I allready told u: remove gnome(3) completly and remove the gnome3 ppa and install gnome again11:33
AkashaaI've change AHCI mode of SATA hard drive to IDE for installation, but this changed the CD driver too. Thus my CD is not recignised. What can I do?11:33
MrokiiIncarus6: If I look at that glxinfo-output it looks to me as if the nvidia-drivers are installed. What do you think?11:33
jigynetlucas kez11:33
PresuntoRJJordan_U: I am sorry... every time I try to ubuntu-bug grub-pc it gives me an Error13: no route to host ! but I have internet access, and I am actually at launchpad right now11:33
PresuntoRJJordan_U: new bug?11:33
jigynets command lines would be similar to your issue as well11:33
Incarus6Mrokii, whats the exact problem you got atm? Unity isn't working, right?11:33
andeeeukIncarus6 thanks11:33
d3vlinhowdy.. I tried some things with compiz-configuration, but after restart when I boot into Unity all I get is background and pointer. How to restore menu's?11:33
dibsIncarus6: I'm in the middle of a upgrade which is caluclating changes, can I still do what you mentioned safely?11:34
andeeeukthere is no specfic gnome app11:34
jigynetaka change it back..11:34
Incarus6dibs, this command is just looking up version numbers, so yes11:34
kezzawdanyone any idea how to enable indicator-cpufreq appindicator in Natty ?11:34
jigynethmm11:34
jigyneti need to update brb11:34
jigynethey11:35
PresuntoRJkezzawd: install the ppa, install the package, run indicator-cpufreq from the shell11:35
jigynethow rude hxing11:35
PresuntoRJkezzawd: it worked for me11:35
dibsIncarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601263/11:35
varunvyasNeed help . on 11/04, where's system administration ab11:35
varunvyastab*11:35
MrokiiIncarus6: Nope, it seems that Unity is working. At least I got that dock-like thing on the left and I can search for items. My sole problem is that the hardware-drivers-app tells me that the nvidia-drivers aren't used. Though I am able to start a game that uses a 3D-environment, if that is anything to judge from. Basically all I want is to make sure that the nvidia-drivers are installed.11:35
andeeeukIncarus6 im actually logged into a gnome3 session11:35
truckfacei am on ubuntu 10.10 and would now like to run the upgrade to 11.04... i have a hp g62 with ATI gfx-card... are there any reported error which makes an upgrade troublesome to do ?11:36
kezzawdPresuntoRJ - yeah - that's what I thought but not working for me ?11:36
kezzawdJust stalling in the shell11:36
andeeeukand if you say apt get remover gnome3 it says the package does not exist11:36
jigynet!samsung11:36
Incarus6Mrokii, could be a wrong error, are all 3D things like games still working?11:36
Incarus6andeeeuk, I would install another smaller desktop (like xubuntu-desktop), log into that and remove gnome11:37
roothi11:37
andeeeukIncarus6 ok I will give that a go also, thanks11:37
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dibsIncarus6: It still fails the same :(11:38
kezzawdhang on - lookls like a bug - appindicator is there but icon is not - it's squeezed between two other indicators without the icon11:38
andeeeukthink it has messed a lot up though :s11:38
Guest51227pls help with wifi on BT 411:38
PresuntoRJkezzawd: what version do you have installed? mine is 0.1.2 from ppa:artfwo/ppa11:38
dregin1lads11:38
atlef!root | Guest5122711:38
ubottuGuest51227: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo11:38
dregin1wtf11:38
dregin1this unity business11:38
dregin1it is a fucking ABORTION11:38
MrokiiIncarus6: I only have this one game (Planeshift) which was only usable on 10.10 with nvidia-drivers installed. And yes, as far as I can tell, all works. I was just confused about the message shown by the hardware-driver-app, telling me that the drivers aren't used. But from the impression I got (the game works flawless) it seems they *are* installed. Just confusing.11:38
FloodBot1dregin1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:38
zepherinupdating ubuntu yay, I wonder what this update breaks11:38
atlef!backtrack | Guest5122711:38
ubottuGuest51227: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition11:38
PresuntoRJkezzawd: and I believe you have to be in Unity GUI, not gnome (Ubuntu-Classic)11:38
linux Guest51227: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition11:38
Incarus6dibs, I need the new "apt.log (grep Broken)"11:38
Guest51227what?11:39
Hedgehog456I like Unity11:39
kezzawdPresuntoRJ - what's simplest way for me to see what version ?11:39
jdobrienRunning 11.04 on a system with Nvidia 9600 GT, have "Nvidia accelerated graphics driver"  activated but it not in use, does that mean I am not using Unity 3D?11:39
CQI get this warning when running sensors-detect from lm-sensors: Warning: the required module sbs is not currently installed .... I can't find sbs anywhere, and googling isn't much help... any ideas?11:40
Guest51227ňňňúquit11:40
PresuntoRJHedgehog456: one in a million ;)11:40
dibsIncarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601266/11:40
Hedgehog456It's an acquired taste :P11:40
PresuntoRJkezzawd: apt-cache policy <packagename>11:40
Mrokiijdobrien: I have exactly the same problem, though everything looks as if they *are* in use, despite the message.11:40
Hedgehog456I dislike the way it's changed GTK+ though11:40
dregin1any ideas how I get to the system settings when using unity???11:41
kezzawdjdobrien - if compiz is working (have you installed ccsm ?) then you are on 3D - I have similar setup and nvidia driver not in use for me also11:41
fezzik02My Natty won't detect the correct resolution for my monitor11:41
dregin1this is absolutely horrible11:41
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lapionHow 1337 can a public broadcaster be..11:41
PresuntoRJdregin1: click on the Off button , the last option should be for System settings11:41
jdobrienkezzawd, I have installed it. but I know it's not using the card since the fan isn't running... although the silence is kind of nice :)11:41
fezzik02When I ran xrandr I got Cannot set crtc 011:41
dreginI don't have an off button :p11:41
lapionin the netherlands today the one o'clock news is exactly at 13:3711:41
Mrokiikezzawd: Add me to the users with that problem :)11:41
Hedgehog456dregin: Use the Dash11:42
dreginIt disappeared with the upgrade to 10.1011:42
dreginwhat dash?11:42
Hedgehog456the Ubuntu button on the top left11:42
dreginah11:42
Hedgehog456click it11:42
PresuntoRJdregin: in the right top side of the panel... looks like an O with an I inside it11:42
dreginfound it11:42
kezzawddregin1 - Use 'Super' and 'A' to bring up the Applications panel and then use the small drop down in the top right to get to System11:42
dreginhah11:42
PresuntoRJdregin: right by your login name11:42
Hedgehog456then type in what setting you want11:42
dreginas I hover over the options in the control centre, their icons disappear.11:42
Hedgehog456you can disable unity and go back to classic ;)11:42
dreginupgrades of ubuntu NEVER work11:42
Mrokiijdobrien: That doesn't really make sense. I guess the nvidia-drivers should be less graphics-card-intensive than the open-source drivers. At least that was the impressiion I had when I tried them. So I guess the fan should be running *less*, not *more* with the nvidia-drivers installed and used.11:43
Incarus6dibs, the mirror seems to be uncomplete, try an official mirror and it should work11:43
* dregin goes off to do a fresh install11:43
dreginmuch thanks!11:43
kezzawdPresuntoJR - I'm using same version as you11:43
Incarus6dibs, the mirror doesn't deliver packages like libreoffice-style and thats the reason why the upgrade fails11:43
mah454I need repository for simple-ccsm for ubuntu-11.0411:43
PresuntoRJkezzawd: the worst thing I have against unity right now, GUI is for MOUSE, I could use keyboard as an alternative (and I do) not as the ONLY input11:44
jdobrienI'll crank up quake-live or something. That should get em going11:44
PresuntoRJkezzawd: 7 clicks to accomplish anything has got to be a design flaw11:44
alicemineris there a way to revert ubuntu 11.04 gui back to ubuntu 10.1011:44
dibsIncarus6: ah, should it not ignore it as a 3rd party app?11:44
jdobrienMrokii, I'll crank up quake-live or something. That should get em going11:44
Incarus6!ccsm | mah45411:44
ubottumah454: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz11:44
aliceminerI mean I don't quite like the new gui11:44
aliceminergnome 3.0 :<11:44
kirewhen using the window picker from compiz scale, I can't close windows with middle mouse button anymore since natty, is there any way to enable this again?11:44
PresuntoRJaliceminer: you can choos the ubuntu-classic in an option where you login11:45
PresuntoRJaliceminer: then you get a clear gnome, like ubuntu used to be11:45
aliceminerreally?11:45
kezzawdPresuntoRJ Yeah - but I'm kinda getting more used to using the 'Super' key and combinations - which feels better and is relatively rodent neutral11:45
aliceminernice11:45
PresuntoRJaliceminer: gnome-211:45
mah454I use standard repository for install this . but receive dependency ... !11:45
aliceminercool11:45
aliceminercool11:45
mah454ubottu I use standard repository for install this . but receive dependency ... !11:46
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)11:46
aurelien_what is this shit11:46
PresuntoRJkezzawd: ok, me too... but cannot be the ONLY way to accomplish things...11:46
aurelien_i install the new ubuntu11:46
aurelien_all my shortcut are gone11:46
aurelien_for parameters11:46
aurelien_it sucks11:46
Hedgehog456Hm11:46
FloodBot1aurelien_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:46
Hedgehog456On the main menu?11:46
PresuntoRJkezzawd: there is no link/icon/button to show the desktop... only Super+D11:46
Hedgehog456aurelien_: On the main menu?11:46
aliceminerso all I have to do is to choose gnome-2 in the login11:46
aliceminerlol11:46
PresuntoRJkezzawd: anoungst other things11:46
Incarus6dibs, there are several other problems packages that causes problems11:46
aurelien_config menus are gone11:46
Hedgehog456System etc?11:47
aurelien_yes11:47
PresuntoRJkezzawd: the problem is the ONLY portion11:47
aurelien_parameters11:47
Hedgehog456aurelien_: Okay11:47
Hedgehog456Click the power button and then 'System Settings'11:47
aurelien_oh ok11:47
aurelien_thank you11:47
Hedgehog456All your preferences and admin stuff will be in there11:47
Hedgehog456:D11:47
PresuntoRJkezzawd: my mom will never (she asked me not to) upgrade her ubuntu if she HAS to use Unity, cause she HATES the keyboard to get things done11:47
Hedgehog456And you can look for apps in the Dash11:47
Incarus6lol: "CTCP VERSION-Anfrage von hxing_!~hxing@119.4.252.88 erhalten"11:49
kezzawdPresuntoRJ lol - I'm pretty comfortable with Unity myself, although I'd like to see what a more mature Gnome3 has to offer as an alternative. I guess we're going to be moving away from the 'classic' Gnome2 desktop overtime in any case11:49
Mrokiibtw, I have another problem. It seems I can't find any apps when typing them in the search-box that pops up when one clicks on the Ubuntu-symbol.11:49
Incarus6PresuntoRJ, she could also use the classic gnome11:50
folklorehope ubuntu teams realizes forcing something as drastic as unit on users without the option to revert back wasn't the best of ideas11:50
MrokiiI mean, Ubuntu doesn't show them, like when I type "terminal" for example or "Firefox". It's only showing documents, as it seems.11:50
folkloreUbuntu isn't like other distros, it's taken very serious and is very popular11:50
PresuntoRJIncarus6: there wont be a Ubuntu-classic for 11.1011:50
PresuntoRJIncarus6: so, not really a solution11:50
gib0tis there any suggestion to make the icons of the unity startmenu smaller11:50
_3diootcan i ask for some help in here?11:50
Incarus6PresuntoRJ, kezzawd, I think a new derivative called gubuntu will be created11:50
MACscrbtw, i highly would not recommend telling people to use gnome 2 (classic) if they dont like unity as it appears the classic mode wont be an option with 11.10. So If people dont like unity, they might as well find a new OS from the looks of it. Im starting to do my hunt now unfortunately11:51
Mrokiioh wait, I solved it.11:51
_3diooti am new to ubuntu :)11:51
PresuntoRJgib0t: you need to adjust it in the compiz setting for the Unity component11:51
fezzik02I need help, too11:51
Incarus6MACscr, e17, lxde, kde, or gubuntu ;)11:51
_3diootwe all need help with something probably ^_^11:51
_3dioothaha11:51
fezzik02lol11:51
_3diootanyway i have a wacom.. and i cant fix the proportions11:52
bincorogood morning everybody11:52
_3diooti have a dual monitor setup11:52
atlef!ask | _3dioot fezzik0211:52
ubottu_3dioot fezzik02: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)11:52
PresuntoRJIncarus6: remember the system I had that just would not boot? now that it boots, I have no network access11:52
kezzawdCruncbang is debian based and uses fluxbox - it's a good one11:52
jdobrienMrokii, did you remove zeitgeist?11:52
gib0tPresuntoRJ: thx11:52
Incarus6PresuntoRJ, wireless?11:52
PresuntoRJIncarus6: I get IP, DNS, etc... but no route to host for anything I try... even posting a bug report :-p11:52
Shaggy2I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter11:52
Incarus6PresuntoRJ, and irc is still working?11:52
PresuntoRJIncarus6: nope... cat5e UTP cable directly connected to the router11:53
fezzik02Ok, so the computer doesn't recognize the correct resolution for my LCD11:53
dibsIncarus6: Is it not normal to have non standard packages installed? I don't understand why my system is having issues, Just want to try 11.11:53
PresuntoRJIncarus6: I got even IP and DNS from DHCP... but no network11:53
_3diootI have installed Ubuntu 11.04 - the Natty Narwhal | I have a dual monitor setup | I use wacom tablet | currently its stretched over my two monitors so the proportions are completely screwed | this needs to be fixed cause i cannot work this way11:53
_3diootis that better?11:53
vampireI'm back11:53
PresuntoRJIncarus6: ip add and ip route also show the expected config11:53
Incarus6dibs, foreign (unsupported) package repos prevents the system from upgrading. Try the official ppa, after that you could change back to your repo11:54
MACscrIncarus6: its really to bad that gnome and ubuntu decided to  make such radical changes. If people wanted something so radically different, they would have chosen a different project. Right now i feel like i was given a "bait n switch"11:55
Incarus6PresuntoRJ, sry, I don't know anything about that ;) is your network card recognized and is it working properly?11:55
vampirehow I can put a game on my localhost11:55
SoulRavenhi11:56
PresuntoRJIncarus6: just said that it is... I have got the correct IP from my DHCP... it means it is working11:56
PresuntoRJIncarus6: just cannot get anywhere...11:56
SoulRavenwhere i can find a tutoriale for using xtables and account feature?11:56
_3diootnobody is willing to lend me a hand with setting up my wacom tablet under ubuntu?11:56
Incarus6MACsrc,  Canonical tries to increase the amount of desktop computer with ubuntu and they know, that gnome is not the best solution for modern desktop ("multimedia") computer11:56
PresuntoRJIncarus6: total mess on this machine... natty killed it11:57
MACscrIncarus6: most desktops are not used for multimedia, most are used for productivity11:57
Incarus6_3dioot, are you using Natty (11.04)?11:57
vampire????11:57
PresuntoRJIncarus6: by the way, when I boot from the natty live CD I have just burned, it works... I have IP and Network11:57
raven_looking for an open street map tool to draw gpx routes for planning a tour11:58
dibsIncarus6: Does that mean I can just untick the repos and update before trying upgrade or do I need to uninstall anything not from official repos?11:58
jubeiguys unity fails to start :(11:58
jdobriengah! Quakelive game launcher is not compatible with Firefox 4.0111:58
MACscrdibs: just untick anything third party11:58
jubeii guess it's a known issue huh?11:58
MACscryou dont have to uninstall them11:58
Incarus6MACscr, but the normal non-nerd user want a beautiful system, and gnome isn't beautiful in my oppinion ;)11:58
PresuntoRJIncarus6: but the upgrade from maverick could not be more disastrous than what I have got so far... though it has just worked flawlessly in another machine11:58
dibssweet11:58
Incarus6dibs, you don't need to uninstall anything, just disable these unsupported repos and activate the officials11:59
dibsman, if thats all thats' stopped I will be pissed, the upgrader says it does it for you11:59
MACscrIncarus6: thats a theme issue imho. You dont decrease productivity to increase "prettyness", EVER.11:59
wozerowozero11:59
jubeican somebody help me start unity cooz..it started 1st boot but then refuses to start on subsequent boots11:59
Mrokiijdobrien: No. But I noticed that I had clicked one of the buttons in the search-box without realizing it, making it look for documents only. It's very hard to notice that, as there is almost no difference between the selected and unselected button.11:59
raven_looking for an open street map tool to draw gpx routes for planning a tour11:59
jdobrienMrokii, whoops. That had to be frustrating11:59
Incarus6PresuntoRJ, sry, I can't help you. you could fill out a bug rebort on the ubuntu bug tracker11:59
wozerohello11:59
PresuntoRJIncarus6: I have an open bug on decrease productivity and it got blocked as an "opinion"12:00
kaiyinis it possible to run ubuntu or xubuntu withou gdm?12:00
Mrokiijdobrien: yeah, it definitely needs some refinement there.12:00
PresuntoRJIncarus6: no network means not able to file ubuntu-bug also from that machine... any suggestions?12:00
Incarus6MACsrc, but if the "good-lucking" windows works as good as the "ugly" gnome, why should you prefer ubuntu? ;)12:00
Incarus6PresuntoRJ, create a bug report from another computer and copy the information from yours ;)12:01
PresuntoRJIncarus6: what files should I copy? thats what ubuntu-bug would help me with...12:02
d3vlinhow can I manually start the unity dock? I only have an empty desktop now with cursor12:02
connexHi, i just upgraded to natty and i have a problem with the default theme: http://img839.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1114.png/12:02
PresuntoRJIncarus6: and to what package?12:02
cfc_{Pawpad}good morning12:02
Incarus6PresuntoRJ, I don't know, ask the people in the bug tracker, after you opened the bug report ;)12:03
jubeid3vlin,  I have the same problem12:03
Incarus6BRB12:03
cfc_{Pawpad}What is LVM12:03
jonathanhello12:04
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milen8204help me to sudo mount -t ext4  /dev/sta5 /home12:05
Ubuntu_userHow do i install .sh file i downloaded from internet12:05
raven_looking for an open street map tool to draw gpx routes for planning a tour12:05
jribUbuntu_user: what program are you trying to install?12:05
Ubuntu_userjrib: netbeans 7.012:06
jribUbuntu_user: why not use the netbeans in the repository?12:06
vampirecan somebody help12:06
llutzraven_: viking12:06
llutzraven_: maybe qlandkartegt12:07
Ubuntu_userjrib:  that is 6.912:07
Incarus6dibs, I hope that fixed it. Im off for 10-20 minutes12:07
Akashaahi!, I've created a bootable usb drive with usb-creator-gtk that can be booted well, but at install it still searches for cd-rom, and can't find any.12:07
raven_llutz, how to "draw" tracks in viking?12:07
NeoCicakhas anyone tried unity2d ? I cant seem to make it to have multiple workspace..... when i click the workspace switcher, only one is shown (top left)... the rest are dark :(12:07
dibsIncarus6: it's calulating changes still :|12:07
Incarus6dibs, ok, then me then if it worked or not12:08
d3vlinjubei: a unity --reset and logging out/back in solved it for me12:08
Sidewinder1!ask | vampire12:08
ubottuvampire: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)12:08
jribUbuntu_user: make the file executable (chmod +x file) and execute it (./file).  Keep in mind you should read its documentation to see if there are any special requirements and what to learn what to do if you want to remove it.12:08
Ubuntu_usermade it executable12:08
vampireok12:08
Courzguys?12:08
Courzsomeone know how to compile perl script to exe file12:09
llutzraven_: add track layer, start track, plot the track you want12:09
jribCourz: erm, why?12:09
Rehanguys i'm using grub customizer and for some reason none of the settings I'm saving with it are showing up when i do sudo update-grub, instead i see old settings still being setup in the grub update. Any fix possible for this? Much appreciated.12:09
Courzi need to compile12:09
jubeid3vlin, the thing is that I've deleted my boost libraries and upgraded to the latest version of boost and how compiz is looking for libboost1.42.0 :(12:09
Courzbecause i want to send someone my program on windows12:09
Courzand he doesnt have perl installed12:09
jribCourz: ask #perl12:09
De|tahi, anyone help me out with apache2 under 10.04 LTS server. Have copied some files over to /var/www but I get permission denied in error.log when attempting to access them from a browser12:09
vampirebut my question is how to make my game on localhost and how to make is online12:09
Courzand have no idea how to execute it12:09
llutzraven_: "trackwaypoint layer" it is12:10
Ubuntu_userjrib like file is at /home/username/Desktop/netbeans.sh so can you please tell me complete command to execute it12:10
raven_llutz, ok i'll try12:10
jribUbuntu_user: I told you the commands12:10
muneebdoes unity --reset takes time?? it stuck at some point very long then i Ctrl-C it...12:10
cfc_{Pawpad}im trying install ubuntu server 11.04 but im stuck at the chooseing with or with out LVM12:10
De|tawithout LVM12:10
Ubuntu_userjrib:  I am new to linux........12:10
cfc_{Pawpad}what dose LVM do?12:10
De|ta(if you have to ask, you likely don't need it)12:11
jribUbuntu_user: what's your question though?  I told you the command already12:11
De|taI'm not sure tbh, I was relaying what I was told (n00b here too)12:11
spacebug-De|ta: are the file modes correct?12:11
muneebdoes unity --reset takes a lot of time?12:11
De|tai'm not sure, but i'm not sure how to check / what they should be set to spacebug-12:12
Ubuntu_userjrib:  should i type  ./home/username/netbeans.sh to execute it12:12
rrjjnnbbhello to all12:12
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jribUbuntu_user: no, if you are in /home/username/Desktop, you can type ./netbeans.sh ('.' represents the directory you are in).  If you are somewhere else, you can give the full path like you just suggested: /home/username/Desktop/netbeans.sh12:13
NeoCicakanyone has used unity 2d before?12:13
spacebug-De|ta: do 'ls -l /var/www' and see that the files have 'r' for everyone12:13
vampirehow can I get acces to var/www/12:13
Ubuntu_userjrib:  thanks i try it and tell you result12:13
De|tadrwx------ 1712:14
De|tathat'll be a no then!12:14
De|tachmod a+r file ?12:15
spacebug-well that seems to be a directory also12:15
vampireI always get /etc/apt/sources.list: Toegang geweigerd12:15
spacebug-have you copied a subdir in there?12:15
De|tayes, it is a directory that i'm trying to access12:15
jribvampire: now run the command with "LANG=C" so we can understand it12:15
dibsIncarus6: Nope, hmm, is it possible to upgrade from mav? what could have I done to make it so impossible?12:16
redhathaha12:16
redhatis anyone here ?12:16
spacebug-De|ta: ah ok then do a 'chmod 755 dirname'12:16
redhatso many people aha12:16
Ubuntu_userjrib:  it requires  jdk 6, can iget it directly installable12:17
vampireI always get Permission denied12:17
redhatwho want talk to me?12:17
Akashaahi!, I've created a bootable usb drive with usb-creator-gtk that can be booted well, but at install it still searches for cd-rom, and can't find any. The try-usb option did not help.12:17
redhatdididada12:17
botcity!ot | redhat12:17
ubotturedhat: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:17
De|tathat's done it spacebug-, thanks12:18
redhatsorry12:18
De|ta(now to work out why jiznora is throwing php errors :| )12:18
spacebug-hehe12:19
Rehanis there a way to use the nouvea drivers for grub2 and plymouth?12:19
UserX7hi ubuntu 11.04 -- how to check what graphics driver i am using? Additional Drivers program shows i am not using proprietary yet Unity is working fine, which the program claims it won't.12:19
De|taspacebug-: using those permissiosn I'm now getting permission denied errors in error.log when php is trying to open streams, but 755 should be ok for scripts shouldn't it ??12:20
Gangrelanyone knows how to flip sidebar on 11.04 and put it down side12:21
Sidewinder1UserX7, I'm a firm believer in the old adage, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.12:21
De|taI can open the dir, and apache doesn't return a 403 anymore when loading the index - but the script doesn't seem to execute properly12:21
spacebug-De|ta: for files you would probably want 644 as file permission12:21
UserX7Sidewinder1: I just want to tell someone what graphics drivers i'm using, that's all12:21
De|taok, can chmod be used with a mask to do set the permissions of all files in a directory?12:22
Sidewinder1UserX7, Not sure exactly how to do that if it's not found under Hardware Drivers.12:22
botcityUserX7, unity can work without additional drivers but if you require wiz bang graphics and such i would enable them.12:23
Phalanx1234Hey guys12:23
Phalanx1234Can someone help me with an issue,12:23
Sidewinder1!ask12:23
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)12:23
Phalanx1234Google has failed me....12:23
UserX7botcity: any chance I'm using the nouveau drivers? lspci doesn't say12:23
Phalanx1234Haha ok, =P12:23
RehanSidewinder1: where is the Hardware Drivers section?12:24
SoothsayerCan I change the mac address ?12:24
Ubuntu_userHi guys I am using 11.04 64 bit version, and want to install jdk 6, which command should i install12:24
SoothsayerCan I change the mac address of a network card?12:24
Phalanx1234Getting a booting issue,12:24
Phalanx1234tried running fsck and I get this12:24
Phalanx1234ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck /dev/sda112:24
botcityUserX7, if you have not enabled them then chances are you are not using them12:24
Phalanx1234fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.212:24
frag4nowhi all. I get an old ubuntu(10.04), I performed apt-get update, but into update manager there isn't the button to upgrade to new ubuntu version. How can I start upgrade to newest ubuntu release?12:24
Phalanx1234e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)12:24
FloodBot1Phalanx1234: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:24
Phalanx1234fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda112:24
Sidewinder1Rehan: Try: System--> Hardware Drivers12:25
UserX7botcity: ok; so any ideas what the driver is called that i'm using/how to see what's in use?12:26
botcitySoothsayer, sudo apt-get macchanger. also ifconfig can do it i believe12:26
Phalanx1234http://paste.ubuntu.com/601279/12:26
RehanSidewinder1: thanks, i don't seem to have that menu option on 11.04 64bit12:26
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Sidewinder1Rehan: Ah, OK I'm using Lucid; I usually answer in that vein. Sorry I can't be of more help.12:27
Dr_WillisPhalanx1234:  you are not trying to fsck a mounted filesystem are you?12:27
Phalanx1234No,12:27
Rehansidewalk: no need to be sorry, appreciate you taking the time to even answer12:27
Dr_WillisPhalanx1234:  you may want to try checking it from a live cd.12:28
Phalanx1234ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /dev/sda112:28
Phalanx1234umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted12:28
Phalanx1234I am using a live CD12:28
Phalanx1234That's how I'm talking to you =P12:28
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Sidewinder1Rehab: That's why I like LTS; I don't like having to relearn a 'new' system every six months...12:28
Incarus6dibs, is it working?12:28
Dr_WillisPhalanx1234:  check output of mount command - be double sure its not mounted..  could be theres some confion in the config files.12:28
dibsIncarus6: nope, still fails12:29
Sidewinder1Rehan: But that's just me.12:29
Incarus6dibs, pls paste the new apt.log12:29
RehanSidewinder1: thanks12:29
Sidewinder1Rehan: Welks12:30
leylehi,i've a problem about the window, if i open two(or more) program ,and the some windows upon the other ,if i want see the under window,i hit the blank aera in the under window,but the above window wouldn't hide ,maybe my english is poor,so i made a pitcutre to show my question,  http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=15097312:30
Dr_WillisPhalanx1234:  i seem to recall some bug report  about a topic similer to this. but  that was a few days ago.12:30
botcityUserX7, you could try "system testing "app  from the menu  it goes through hardware testing them will show up anything not working and possible drivers to be installed.12:30
tomatto_hi12:31
vampireheb een probleem met mijn irc12:31
dibsIncarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601281/ thanks for sticking about man12:31
Phalanx1234Checked it, it's unmounted12:31
Incarus6dibs, its 23 o'clock?12:32
Sidewinder1Nah, vamp., it's workin' fine.12:32
dibsyep12:32
vampireI have a problem with irc12:32
dibsIncarus6: yeah, on sat night, sad huh12:32
tomatto_i upgraded ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04 and i have situation on both computers, about first, unity won't to be run and about second grub won't to boot system, or just execute yourself. what can i do?12:32
dibsIncarus6: or is that leet? ;)12:32
frewo64__!flash1012:33
Incarus6dibs, leet? ^^12:33
vampirewhen I try to connect its say Verbinden mislukt. Fout: Verbinding is geweigerd12:33
Dr_Willistomatto_:  be sure you got the proper 3d drvers working on the first one.. as for the second..  tried reinstalling grub from a live cd?12:33
RehanSidewinder1: i have another question -- is there a way i can have File System show up in my Places dropdown menu in top panel?12:34
dibsIncarus6: sweeet12:34
vampirewhen I try to connect its say Connection failed. Error: Connection refused12:34
Incarus6dibs, ? :D12:34
mikebeechamhi guys...my windows seem a little jerky when dragging around the desktop...could anyone help me with this12:34
leylehi,i've a problem about the window, if i open two(or more) program ,and the some windows upon the other ,if i want see the under window,i hit the blank aera in the under window,but the above window wouldn't hide ,maybe my english is poor,so i made a pitcutre to show my question,  http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=15097312:36
Sidewinder1Rehan: Not sure how; it shows up in mine, in the left portion of the screen after I click home'12:36
Incarus6dibs, lets try "sudo apt-get -f install" and "sudo aptitude" look for broken dependencies with aptitude12:36
RehanSidewinder1: yea it shows up in my Home folder's left panel also but not in my Places dropdown from top panel...pretty annoying!12:36
botcitymikebeecham,  you can ajust windows and other desktop configurations through ccsm12:37
Incarus6dibs, the second thing: can you remove "libnss3" without removing alot of other packages?12:37
mikebeechambotcity, in there now...I wondered whether it might be a driver issue12:37
kkaldoes the ubuntu installer erase home during the install?12:37
mikebeechamjust jerky windows seems like gfx12:37
raw_recruitHey @ ALL! Can anyone (german) can help me solving a problem with MEDIBUNTU? Don't know how to deinstall.... :(12:37
Dr_Williskkal:  if you have home on its own partition. you can keep it untouched.12:37
raw_recruitplease PM12:38
PresuntoRJkkal: not supposed to... you could, accidentally, erase the partitions on a new install12:38
Dr_Willisraw_recruit:   Medibuntu is just a repository.  Use the package manager to remove whatever packages you installed from it.12:38
kkalDr_Willis: now I will put home on a separate partition12:38
kkalthanks12:38
Dr_Williskkal:  i keep my /home/ on its own hard drive. :)12:38
PresuntoRJkkal: is your disk in a single partition or you have /home separated ?12:39
Sidewinder1Rehan: I'm sure there's a way to do want you want, but after a quick check, I'll be darned if I can see where. :-(12:39
kkalPresuntoRJ: single partition for ubuntu unfortunately12:39
dios_mio!totem12:39
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs12:39
kkalalso, unity seems very laggy, especially with launching applications. Is that intended?12:40
botcitymikebeecham, it may be but it would effect everything i suspect. perhaps some testing!12:40
PresuntoRJkkal: that is not a problem, usually... I have a system that has home separated, and another witha single partition... upgrades work on both since 5 versions ago12:40
PresuntoRJkkal: just in case, do a backup of your home to an external drive or DVD12:40
cool-RRHello!12:40
PresuntoRJkkal: play safe, but not mandatory12:40
cool-RRI've installed 11.04 on VMWare12:40
saju_mhow set 10.10 style back to 11.0412:41
cool-RRBut Unity isn't working12:41
Kevin147yeah I recommend backing it up :P12:41
kkalPresuntoRJ: right! thanks12:41
cool-RRWhat can I do?12:41
Kevin147I tried that before and lost everything :/12:41
Sidewinder1Rehan: Why do you need to access the File System so often?12:41
PresuntoRJcool-RR: unity never works on VMWare by design12:41
LjLcool-RR: i don't think Unity can work in virtual machines, because of lack of 3D support (although VMWare possibly has some?)12:41
PresuntoRJcool-RR: only on full blown systems12:41
jeijacool-RR: it works in the latest virtualbox version i think12:41
Dr_Willissaju_m:  clarify what you mean. You can select classic (old style) desktop or unity.(ubuntu) at the GDM login screen12:41
cool-RRLjL: VMWare does have some and I enabled it12:41
PresuntoRJcool-RR: I believe i has something to do with the video drivers inside VMWare12:41
RehanSidewinder1: not sure haha, i just end up having to go in there quite a bit. All my media is on a different partition which is mounted, and then for some stuff i have to go into file system12:41
Dr_WillisYou can always enable the unity-2d for virtual machines.12:41
cool-RRjeija: I guess I'll try VirtualBox12:41
jeijacool-RR: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/heads-up-unity-working-with-the-lastest-virtualbox/12:42
LjLcool-RR: well, i don't know, but it might not be enough. last time i tried Unity, my FX5200 card wasn't enough to support it12:42
kkalanother question: launching firefox takes about 2-3 seconds. Is that normal?12:42
PresuntoRJDr_Willis: but its not really the same12:42
saju_mhave any way to set ubuntu 10.10 theme(GUI) in 11.0412:42
kkalthis is with unity12:42
melikene diyonuz ya12:42
PresuntoRJkkal: to what? to open a site? or to open firefox ?12:42
LjLkkal: 2-3 seconds doesn't seem like a lot...12:42
Dr_WillisPresuntoRJ:  never noticed.12:42
saju_m11.04 UI is very confusing12:42
kkalto open firefox12:42
PresuntoRJkkal: its pretty fast actually12:42
cool-RRI'll look into these options12:42
cool-RRThanks everyone for your help!12:42
melikehi12:42
cool-RRGoodbye12:42
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Incarus6dibs, pls paste: "apt-cache policy libeet1 libnss3-1d libnm-util1 chromium-browser librpmio1 xulrunner-1.9.2 chromium-browser-l10n gnome-pilot enna gnome-pilot-conduits  openshot"12:42
saju_mi need 11.04 with 10.10 theme12:42
Incarus6!classic | saju_m12:43
kkalthe icon blinks for 2-3 seconds. and then it runs reasonably fast. I did a 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 upgrade. I suspect I need to do a fresh install12:43
Sidewinder1Rehan: OK, I have looked around quite extensively, in file system, but I don't need to that often.12:43
tomatto_Dr_Willis: on first i have upgraded system, so drivers are ok i hope. desktop is shown, but unity is not shown. top and side menu is not shown12:43
saju_m<Dr_Willis> how do that ?12:43
Kevin147kkal: It takes me the same time and I have a quad-core. So its normal12:44
kkalPresuntoRJ:the icon blinks for 2-3 seconds. and then it runs reasonably fast. I did a 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 upgrade. I suspect I need to do a fresh install12:44
Dr_Willissaju_m:  on the LOGIN screen theres a menu at the bottom after you enter your user name12:44
ray`hello, im trying to recover grub 2 after the 11.04 update because it only shows windows 7 and memtest86, ive tried several howto's but no success, anyone knows how to recover it?12:44
saju_mok12:44
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jeijaray: you could user the super grub disk12:44
PresuntoRJkkal: hum... not sure how it could get better... do you have a SDD disk instead of HDD? unless some special setup like this, 2 to 3 seconds is quite ok... has it degraded a lot since 10.10 ?12:45
Incarus6dibs, libnss3 seems to be the cause of most of these errors, woulb be easier without it. did it work?12:45
ray`thanks jeija i will try12:45
kkalPresuntoRJ: its bearable I agree. Its not as fast as 10.04 though.12:46
kkalPresuntoRJ: if this is expected, I can avoid a clean install. Thanks12:46
Al-Bawiis there a problem with the server for upgrading ?12:46
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preyas_hey any1 know how to change themes in gnome 3 in ubuntu12:47
preyas_i installed ubunut12:47
Kevin147preyas_: In Appearance12:47
jeijayou could use gnome tweak12:47
Incarus6Al-Bawi, if it's not reachable try a mirror12:47
Incarus6!mirror | Al-Bawi12:47
ubottuAl-Bawi: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Natty, and help keeping the servers' load low!12:47
dibsIncarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601293/ If I remove that lib you menitoned I lose about 1gb of apps. So I didn't12:47
Akashaahi!, I've created a bootable usb drive with usb-creator-gtk that can be booted well, but at install it still searches for cd-rom, and can't find any. The try-usb option did not help.12:47
jeijathere aren't many options for gnome 312:47
PresuntoRJkkal: there is an option in compiz setting for unity, that control the icon animation when you start an application... you could try to change to something else, like nothing, and check if it gets any faster.... besides that, the time it takes to load seemes like the times it takes to load.. not sure if it could get much better12:48
preyas_Kevin147, hey kevin appearance menu is disabled in gnome 312:48
tomatto_fucking ubuntu!12:48
dibsIncarus6: Does this mean I really have to uninstall all those apps?12:48
Kevin147!language | tomatto_12:48
preyas_Kevin147, its not available after i install gnome 312:48
ubottutomatto_: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.12:48
jeijapreyas: have a look at this: http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2011/03/customizing-the-gnome-3-shell.html12:48
bazhangtomatto_, no cursing12:48
kkalPresuntoRJ: yeah. Im looking for configs which used to be in obvious places with gnome, unity is completely different12:49
PresuntoRJkkal: I hate it too ;)12:49
preyas_hey i want suggestion for ubuntu not for fedora12:49
DirtyDawgtomatto_: try something like Ubuntu! i smaite thee sir, and a curse upon your camels...12:49
Dr_WillisbI would think most unity settings are in gconf, or where compiz keepos theirs..12:49
Incarus6dibs, "libeet1" is outdated, could you update? and pls paste the output of which package will be removed, if you would remove that libnss312:50
PresuntoRJkkal: try clicking in the poweroff button, there should be a System Settings option there... much like a control panel12:50
preyas_jeija, hey i want suggestion for ubuntu not for fedora12:50
Incarus6!nss12:50
jeijamost parts should also work for ubuntu12:50
jeijaespecially the gnome3 tweak section12:50
Rehanis there a way to have your status in ubuntu set to "busy" automatically on login? or is there some script i could write to do that? thank you12:50
kkalPresuntoRJ: got it! thanks!12:50
preyas_jeija, i have ubuntu tweak tool12:50
preyas_but its have some themes12:51
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poipoiHi!12:51
preyas_how can i add there more themes12:51
PresuntoRJkkal: I am getting  used to it, but still hate it ... :-p12:51
poipoiIm downloading ubuntu for usen on my grandmothers computer12:51
jeijapreyas, do you mean ubuntu tweak or gnome 3 tweak?12:51
preyas_i have both12:52
tomatto_can i downgrade ubuntu from 11.04 back to 10.10 ?12:52
preyas_jeija, i have both12:52
M0TRNtomatto_, no12:52
tomatto_great12:52
poipoi@tomatto I don't think so12:52
M0TRNbut you can disable Unity and get hte menus back to their normal place tomatto_12:52
preyas_jeija, i was able to change the theme through gnome tweak tool12:52
bazhangtomatto_, full reinstall12:52
Sidewinder1But you can reinstall 10.1012:52
preyas_jeija, so i downloaded it12:52
Sidewinder1Beat me.12:52
bazhangtomatto_, you have a seperate home partition? want to create one?12:52
bazhang!home | tomatto_12:52
ubottutomatto_: Your home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome12:52
loseweighthow to save changes to a file using vi editor12:52
PresuntoRJkkal: also in the compiz settings, you can prevent the autohide, change transparencies, etc... not sure how to change the workspaces (Super+S), and a few other lame restrictions12:53
Incarus6dibs, no, don't remove these, just give me the output12:53
M0TRNloseweight, Escape, :, x, return12:53
poipoiUsed to have Me but failed experiment :(12:53
poipoiOld Ubuntu disk broken12:53
tomatto_bazhang: no i haven't separate home partition12:53
loseweightit keeps making a .swap file12:53
loseweightwhy?12:53
bazhangtomatto_, check that link on how to create one if you so desire12:54
loseweightand none of those commands work Sir12:54
loseweightx12:54
loseweight;12:54
loseweightescape12:54
FloodBot1loseweight: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.12:54
tomatto_bazhang: if it is only one option12:54
jribloseweight: if you don't want to use vi, use nano12:55
loseweighti have no choice now12:55
loseweightim inside the document12:55
loseweighthow to exit and save12:55
jribloseweight: ESCAPE:wq   in the future use nano12:55
tomatto_bazhang: i am desperate12:55
Al-Bawican i upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 by using the CD , because i dont want to erase my current documents and games in 10.1012:55
loseweightnone of them work12:55
jribloseweight: yes, it does.12:55
loseweightim still inside the vi editor12:55
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loseweightit doesn't12:56
jribloseweight: press escape, then colon, then w, then q, then enter.12:56
loseweightat the same time?12:56
jribloseweight: no?12:56
GlycanWhy doesn't banshee work? At all. It just says banshhe mdeia player starting, and then it doesn't do anything!12:56
PresuntoRJloseweight: sequentially12:56
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loseweightok i did them all12:56
loseweightim still in vi editor12:56
jribloseweight: then I recommend you start over in nano12:56
tomatto_is not possible to reinstall ubuntu with no user data remove? when i don't have separate partition of home12:56
loseweightbut i need to get out12:56
tomatto_?12:56
loseweightpleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee help me12:57
jribloseweight: close the terminal12:57
DirtyDawglol12:57
PresuntoRJloseweight: do you see the cursor blinking ? is in the the text somewhere or in the footer (like a status bar) of vi ?12:57
loseweightits not blinking12:57
loseweightdoes it matter that im using centos12:57
PresuntoRJloseweight: vi is vi everywhere12:57
dibsIncarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601296/ should I hit yes or no?12:57
Incarus6!centos | loseweight12:57
SargonRoseDoes anyone here use autohotkey?12:58
jrib!anyone | SargonRose12:58
Incarus6ubottu -.-12:58
ubottuSargonRose: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.12:58
PresuntoRJloseweight: then press ESC some three times (just in case)12:58
loseweightcrtl zz always creates a swap file12:58
loseweightshould i just use that12:58
PresuntoRJthen, press only : once12:58
PresuntoRJthen write ZZ (twice, captial letters)12:58
loseweight: makes the cursor go to bottom12:58
PresuntoRJloseweight: just right... and the ZZ or wq or qhatever you type will be a command to vi12:59
loseweightafter: ?12:59
gidorah_hello, i have problems with installing opencv on ubuntu. here is the terminal output of make command: http://codepad.org/B9ijN98y . could anyone please help me?12:59
PresuntoRJloseweight: ZZ = wq = Write and Quit12:59
PresuntoRJyes, just after the :12:59
SargonRoserun %Riot Games%\league of legends\lol.launcher This isnt working. I know it has something to do with the sace but im really new so i have no idea12:59
Incarus6dibs, Im confused. Hit No. that package doesn't even exist in the official repos: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libnss312:59
loseweightits not workinggggggggggg12:59
Incarus6dibs, for maverick12:59
PresuntoRJit would look like this   :wq      or :ZZ12:59
loseweightomg some1 help me please!!!!!!!!!!!!12:59
jribloseweight: close your terminal and do what you want to do in nano.13:00
bazhang!helpme | loseweight13:00
ubottuloseweight: Avoid following your questions with a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude13:00
GoGithe xubuntu 10.10 cd does not detect my mouse when running under kvm. I get a cursor but it does not move.13:00
zertyuihi13:00
ruumhey guys are any of you having trouble with the new distro?13:00
loseweightclosing the terminal is not a good idea as13:00
dibsIncarus6: ok, now I'm confused13:00
loseweightthen i lose all my edits13:00
ruumwith basic stuff....13:00
jribloseweight: make them again13:00
ruumlike getting the main menus back....13:00
PresuntoRJloseweight: if you close without save, yes, you lose13:00
dibsI don't mind if I have to drop some apps and reinstall. I just need to make sure I get to a stable state for work13:00
zertyuiis it possible reverse download ( upload ) on a site where the server is ubuntu and they allow us to download ?13:01
Incarus6dibs, that package shoudln't have any dependencies, it could be that this happens because the other packages arent from the official repo too13:01
OsmodivsHello. How do I download an ISO with wget? because everytime I try to do that, it only downloads the webpage, not the file13:01
tobierruum: the new DE seems bugged to me, otherwise no problems so far13:01
zertyuiis it possible reverse download ( upload ) on a site where the server is ubuntu and they allow us to download ? where the folder chmod is 77713:01
jribzertyui: depends if they allow you to upload presumably13:01
dibsIncarus6: thats why I not worried if I have to drop them, you reckon I should just drop the GB and pick it up on the other side?13:01
loseweightnano is better than vi?13:01
ruumand well how do you unmaximize a window - make go back to resizable13:01
jribOsmodivs: pass the url of the iso to wget13:01
DirtyDawgloseweight: it is easier13:01
jribloseweight: it's different13:01
PresuntoRJOsmodivs: try the link from cdimage.ubuntu.com ... there should be the actual iso there to download, and should work from wget13:01
zertyuii still don't not understand what you mean  jrib13:02
Incarus6dibs, hm, what?13:02
tomatto_how can i reinstall grub from livecd?13:02
jribloseweight: if you don't know how to use vi, I'd say nano is better13:02
zertyuiwhat i have to check ? jrib13:02
tobierruum: isn't maximized windows a feature now?13:02
bazhang!grub2 | tomatto_ have a read13:02
ubottutomatto_ have a read: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)13:02
jribzertyui: depends on how the server is configured13:02
ruumand in firefox, the main menu seems to be hidden forever - unless I use alt13:02
PresuntoRJloseweight: when you learn to use vi (vim) you then tend to use it, cause its great13:02
SargonRoseBasic line of code not working, can someone take a look at it and tell me whats wrong. Its only one line of code13:02
ruumsorta13:02
tobierruum: I'm not using the new DE, but I think I remember that13:02
zertyuithe folder chmod is 777 jrib13:02
jribSargonRose: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)13:02
PresuntoRJloseweight: but its really not easy the first time you try it...13:03
tobierruum: yes, I think that is a feature, more Mac OS X-ish13:03
gidorah_hello, i have problems with installing opencv on ubuntu. here is the terminal output of make command: http://codepad.org/B9ijN98y . could anyone please help me?13:03
jribzertyui: ok?13:03
ruumwell who is lol13:03
ruumye[13:03
SargonRoseWas trying, i had had the code copy'ed but lost it somewhere13:03
zertyuithe folder chmod is 777 jrib anyone read write and execute jrib13:03
tobierruum: you can still use Ubuntu Classic13:03
tobierruum: AFAIK that is Gnome13:03
jribzertyui: yes, so?13:03
SargonRoserun %Riot Games%\league of legends\lol.launcher13:03
zertyuiso it should be possible for me jrib13:03
jribzertyui: what kind of server is it...?13:03
SargonRoseI know it something to do with the space13:04
zertyuiwhat do you think jrib13:04
Incarus6dibs, I wouldn't remove thoose packages13:04
zertyuiubuntu lucid 10.04 jrib13:04
poipoiCan ubuntu run on a pc with 64 mb of ram and a 600 mhz celeron processor?13:04
jribzertyui: ftp, ssh, etc13:04
bazhangpoipoi, not the desktop, no13:04
jribpoipoi: no gui, but sure13:04
Osmodivs(gtk-update-icon-cache:5519): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory13:04
poipoiWhat do you mean?13:04
zertyuiwithout creating an user is it possible to upload ? jrib13:04
OsmodivsWhat?!13:04
icerootpoipoi: with some luck, lubuntu will run but more ram is a good idea13:04
Incarus6Osmodivs, ignore that error13:04
jribpoipoi: no graphical user interface13:05
ruumI think I will.... cuz I suddenly cant make windows re-sizable again, and firefox's main menu are hidden forever unless I use tab13:05
jribzertyui: you're not answering my questions, how can I answer yours...13:05
OsmodivsIncarus6, Ok :)13:05
icerootpoipoi: i am running ubuntu on 630mhz + 512mb ram (eeepc 701)13:05
tobierruum: well then, use GNOME if you like it better13:05
zertyuiwhat is your questioN ? jrib13:05
PresuntoRJIncarus6: I tend to ignore many errors :D13:05
poipoiOk? Damnit!13:05
jribzertyui: what kind of server is it...?13:05
poipoiHow much?13:05
poipoiFor regular?13:05
Incarus6Osmodovis, it will be shown a lot of times, but you can ignore it. that doesn't say anything13:05
PresuntoRJIncarus6: unlesss they bite me13:05
zertyuiubuntu lucid i said jrib13:05
tobierruum: my prefered wm is the Awesome Window Manager13:05
dibsIncarus6: what a nigtmare13:05
jribzertyui: ftp, ssh, etc13:05
DirtyDawgiceroot: with a Gui? if so which one13:05
ruumonce maximized, there is no undoing it without closing and reopening the window13:05
zertyuiweb server jrib13:05
icerootDirtyDawg: gnome13:06
PresuntoRJruum: in Unity ?13:06
jribzertyui: then no, you probably can't upload...13:06
DirtyDawgwow13:06
ruumI almost want to go back to v.10.x13:06
OsmodivsIt's been hours since i updated and still is not finished, I have 2500+ packages to upgrade13:06
Incarus6dibs, dude, I have no Idea how to fix that. its because you used this unofficial mirror13:06
ruumthis is a NIGHTMARE13:06
PresuntoRJruum: I hate it too... let me try to help... can you see the X in the left corner of the maximized window ?13:07
icerootDirtyDawg: its the gnome from ubuntu 8.04, its running ok with 512mb ram and 630mhz, its possible to work with that machine (if not using fash/youtube)13:07
zertyuiok let come the point, then how site like mangaupload etc ... allow anonym  users to upload files on folders ?13:07
DirtyDawgiceroot: interesting13:07
SargonRoseCode not working run "%A_Riot Games%\league of legends\lol.launcher" No idea why exept for the space between riot and games is the problem, just dont know why or how to fix it13:07
jribzertyui: you can certainly write scripts that allow users to upload13:07
tobierruum: just don't use the new desktop!!13:08
PresuntoRJruum: you could try to login to the ubuntu classic option13:08
tobierruum: I've said it, pick Ubuntu Classic when you log in, it's just like back in 10.x13:08
dibsa mirror at a university here in NZ? surely that would be ok13:08
Curly_QHey guys I installed X11VNC and it worked and doesn't work. It has a mind of its own It has error warnings that seem quite stupid any suggestions besides using FreeNX?13:08
zertyuithat's what i can't understand ? how php script able to upload without creating an username and password authentificatioN jrib13:08
samtatehi13:09
jribzertyui: you can ask ##php for help creating such a script13:09
poipoiCan you run regular ubuntu on on 200 mb of ram?13:09
dibsIncarus6:   a mirror at a university here in NZ? surely that would be ok13:09
jribpoipoi: no13:09
poipoiMight be more13:09
Incarus6dibs, sure? they miss a lot of packages and some packages differ from the original13:09
Dr_WillisCurly_Q:  if you can handle  not shareing the current visible desktop. theres dozens of vnc servers out there.13:09
Curly_QIt also has an error warning to disable the error warnning. How stupid is that?13:09
PresuntoRJpoipoi: almost not... but I have managed to run with 256 from the alternate Cd a few versions back (9.10 if I recall right)13:10
aj00200poipoi: surely you have more ram than that unless this is an extremely old computer13:10
Osmodivspopoi, run damn small linux instead13:10
zertyuiok thanks jrib13:10
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Curly_QDr_Willis, I don't mind experimenting with anything that is worth while.13:10
DirtyDawgor puppy linux13:10
PresuntoRJpoipoi: then I recomend lubuntu intead of ubuntu (but I think its a package now a days)... you could try to install without GUI and then get via apt the lubuntu-desktop package13:11
PresuntoRJpoipoi: its still usable13:11
sl33k_any suggestion which to use virtualbox or vmware?13:11
sl33k_for ubuntu13:11
poipoiCan you run ubunt 8 on 200 mb of ram?13:11
aj00200sl33k_: personally, I like qemu13:11
PresuntoRJsl33k_: Ubuntu as host or guest ?13:11
Incarus6dibs, try "dpkg --configure -a" and paste output13:11
poipoiHost13:11
Dr_WillisCurly_Q:  i normally only use the more normal vnc servers. Ones that dont share the current visible desktop. such as tightvnc, or vnc4server, i think theres otheres out there also. Theres also FreeNX that serves a similer purpose.13:11
Dr_Willispoipoi:  i bet it would be dog slow.13:12
sl33k_PresunotoRJ: i am new to this :) what is the difference between them?13:12
Dr_WillisCurly_Q:  it all depoends on how you are going to be using the remote desktop13:12
PW-toXicHi,13:12
PW-toXicI cant find my xorg.conf file13:12
ruumexit13:12
PresuntoRJsl33k_: virtualbox works really good, sometimes I cannot compile vmware (vmmon-only), and qemu is a mess with bridge to get to the machine, but if you are only use outbound from it, qemu is really simple to use13:12
Dr_WillisPW-toXic:  X auto configures for the most part. make a xorg.conf if you want one13:13
dibsIncarus6: it doesn't output?13:13
PresuntoRJsl33k_: the guest is the machine running inside a VM, the host is the machine executing the VM it self13:13
bruzerHey, I recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.  Any help would be great13:13
Incarus6dibs, thats a good sign13:13
PW-toXicDr_Willis, i run on virtualbox and i cant select a higher resolution13:14
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dibsIncarus6: phew13:14
PW-toXicI have 11.04 newly installed13:14
Curly_QDr_Willis I have tried TightVNC in fact it was the first VNC device I used. It seems good, but with Windows it started to talk to some internet servers I never programmed it for.13:14
sl33k_PresuntoRJ: then, as a guest. host would be windows13:14
loseweightplease help13:14
loseweighthttp://pastebin.com/W8UnQSfr13:14
phonex01How can i change folders and files properties of FAT23 and NTFS files through ubunt ? like changed hidden to un-hidden ?13:14
matsimonPW-toXic: No xorg.conf is created in recent ubuntu, its used if there is one otherweise not existing13:14
bruzer?13:15
PresuntoRJsl33k_: you want to run Ubuntu as a desktop (with GUI) or as a server (sharing files, web, ssh, ...)?13:15
Curly_QWith a good Windows Net Monitor you can see what software is talking to who.13:15
CantRushThishey - I've got a minor issue with my 11.04 installation: The default battery charge indicator is not displaying remaining charge time on my Compaq Presario CQ5613:15
Dr_WillisCurly_Q:  you will want to block the vnc ports via a firewall or router. in case anyone tries to scan you and get in13:15
loseweighthttp://pastebin.com/W8UnQSfr13:15
sl33k_PresuntoRJ: any tradeoff for running on virtualbox/qemu?13:15
Incarus6dibs, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601281/ lines 1149, 1150, 1151, 1164, 1165, 1166, 1167, 1182, 1183, 1184 and 1193 seems to cause your main problem. I think this are these packages, which prevent your system from beeing updated, because it couldn't resolv the dependencies of that packages13:15
Dr_WillisPW-toXic:  you need to get the Vbox guest addations installed I imagine.13:15
sl33k_PresuntoRJ: desktop13:15
PW-toXicDr_Willis, yeah i guess i need this ;) just installing13:15
CantRushThisI remember reading somewhere that it's an issue with the 10.10 / 11.04 battery management system and that it should work with 10.0413:15
Curly_QDr_Willis I block anything that is suspect.13:16
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Dr_WillisCurly_Q:  vnc is not safe to use over the wild and dirty internet.13:16
bruzerHey, I recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.  Any help would be great13:16
Dr_WillisCurly_Q:  if you have to use it over the internet. use ssh tunels.13:16
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phonex01How can i change folders and files properties of FAT23 and NTFS files through ubunt ? like changed hidden to un-hidden ?13:16
PresuntoRJsl33k_: to run a server, inside Windows, I would run in the vmware server, cause it does not need to open any window, and its also free... for the GUI, the vmware player is OK, but I usued to prefer VirtualBox (when it was Sun, not Oracle)13:16
aj00200colalindu: I think you will need to run that as a root user (sudo python26 setup.py build)13:16
Curly_QDr_Willis, I was using SSH with Secure VNC with X11vnc.13:16
ThisNameisCoolplease help13:16
ThisNameisCoolhttp://pastebin.com/W8UnQSfr13:16
linux_6.04 server13:16
bazhanglinux_, no such version13:17
aj00200ThisNameisCool: I think you will need to run that as a root user (sudo python26 setup.py build)13:17
matsimonThisNameisCool: Why would you want to install python from source?13:17
linux_is python 2.613:17
ThisNameisCooli need 2.613:17
Curly_QDr_Willis when I installed the Ubuntu Repositories and stuff like that it stopped working.13:17
Incarus6ThisNameisCool, isn't python 2.7 default in 11.04?13:17
aj00200matsimon: no, he is installing a python module, I think13:17
matsimonaj00200: oh, sorry, catched that13:17
sl33k_PresuntoRJ: is qemu reliable? also, could you provide some installation info/link?13:17
ThisNameisCooltwisted is the name13:17
PresuntoRJsl33k_: do you need them (Windows and Ubuntu) together at the same time? if not, there is also Wubi (an instalation inside windows, almost like a program, but boots to Windows or Ubuntu)13:18
PresuntoRJsl33k_: pretty much, but its a mess to network to the machine inside qemu... I am not sure if there is qemu for windows13:18
ruumok, I dont know who told me to reboot as ubuntu classic BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH13:18
Dr_WillisCurly_Q:  freenx works much better over the internet, and is mor esecure.. but harder to setup.13:19
cool-RRHello again13:19
nabiI get this "Grub loading, please wait... Error 15" now what I want to do ?13:19
PresuntoRJruum: :)13:19
cool-RRThere's something I don't understand how to do in Unity13:19
ruumWHEW.... what a relief!!  I have all my main menus bacn and EVERYTHING13:19
cool-RRI press Super13:19
ThisNameisCoolhow cna i fix it?13:19
ThisNameisCoolEVERY MODULE HAS THIS ERROR13:19
bruzerCan I assume mine is a unique problem for which you have no answer?13:19
cool-RRStart typing the app name, like "ter"13:19
Sidewinder1!patience > ThisNameisCool13:19
ubottuThisNameisCool, please see my private message13:19
SoothsayerI have an executable called 'foo' at say '/opt/cyberoam/crclient/'13:19
cool-RRBut how can I use the keyboard to browse through the different apps?13:19
santhu1984hi13:19
sl33k_PresuntoRJ: yea, same time i presume. i have used wubi, however did not like it as the boot used to break often13:19
Soothsayerso I can navigate to that path in the terminal and type ./foo and execute it.13:20
aj00200ThisNameisCool: are you using 11.04?13:20
ThisNameisCoolnegative13:20
SoothsayerBut how do I execute that from some other path?13:20
jaidotshnopes13:20
ThisNameisCoolim using centos13:20
Curly_QDr_Willis I apt-getted the FreeNX but got frustrated with the operation.13:20
ruumthey REALLY need to get on this new UI version and allow users to have their main menus somewhere....13:20
jribSoothsayer: /opt/cyberoam/crclient/foo13:20
santhu1984i ve upgraded ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.0413:20
bazhangThisNameisCool, #centos13:20
santhu1984and upgrading failed in between13:20
ThisNameisCooli can't go there13:20
santhu1984can any one help me13:20
bazhangThisNameisCool, that does not make this their backup channel13:20
aj00200ThisNameisCool: did you try putting sudo in front of the command like I suggested?13:20
Soothsayerjrib, ./crclient: You can run the executable with name `crclient' only.13:20
Curly_QIf FreeNX works I will use it.13:21
Incarus6santhu1984, pls ask in one line and pls paste /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log13:21
ThisNameisCoolaj i didnt13:21
ruumnot being able to resize and manage your windows is HORRIBLE!!!  But you guys are AWESOME, I would DIE if  I could have my ubuntu classic...13:21
bazhangaj00200, hes not using ubuntu13:21
ThisNameisCooli didnt see your suggestion13:21
Soothsayerjrib, in my case foo = crclient (the executable is the same name as the directory holdign it)13:21
aj00200bazhang: ah13:21
ThisNameisCoolwhat does sudo do13:21
bazhangThisNameisCool, stop asking for centos help here13:21
ruum*couldnt13:21
ThisNameisCoolthey are both linux ok13:21
PresuntoRJsl33k_: just found this, not sure how up-to-date is the information... http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Using_QEMU_on_Windows13:21
cool-RRGuys, how can I use the keyboard to move between app symbols in Unity?13:21
bazhangThisNameisCool, ##linux NOT here13:21
sl33k_PresuntoRJ: any other like qemu. and which ubuntu installer to download. could you provide the downloader link and doumentation ?13:22
ruumThisNameisCool.... I am sure there is a centos channel13:22
jaidotshhelo13:22
ruumyou should go to that....13:22
aj00200ThisNameisCool: sorry, but CentOS is totaly different in some regards, particularly Python matters. I don't know much about it on CentOS.13:22
Acriaxhttp://imgur.com/P47aa <-- does anyone know why it revert to this old-style theme after about 10 seconds? This screen was taking in Unity on a Virtualbox VM, but the same thing happens no matter if I use classic ubuntu or vmware instead.13:22
memefilterhi folks, is the reason the 32bit version of 11 recommended because the 64 is not quite stable?13:22
santhu1984i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions13:22
Curly_QDr_Willis I did a  sudo apt-get upgrade and    sudo apt-get upgrade    and     sudo apt-get aptitude.13:22
bruzerHey, I recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.13:22
Incarus6memefilter, 32bit isn't more stable then 64bit, but I prefer 32 because of its compatibility13:22
Curly_QAlso sudo apt-get update13:23
ThisNameisCoollinux is universal13:23
bazhangThisNameisCool, stop13:23
Cursarion:o13:23
memefilterIncarus6: thanks, that's the advice I got elsewhere too13:23
memefilter32 it is13:24
memefiltercheers folks!13:24
ruumdamn guys someone needs to recreate the CentOS channel!!  But still this is for #ubuntu  I would suggest going to the #linux channel for centos help ThisNameisCool.13:24
bruzerAny help13:24
Cursarionis it possible to mark a HD partition bootable, put contents of Ubuntu ISO file there and install from it on boot?13:24
PresuntoRJsl33k_: again, inside ubuntu, so it runs as host, there is kvm, qemu, and virtualbox_ose ... you can download from vmware.com the player or the server (depending if you need a GUI or not)13:24
Curly_QDr_Willis the X11vnc worked just fine when I first installed Ubuntu, after installing the updates and upgrades it failed.13:24
aj00200ThisNameisCool: each distro has some differences. You would be better off asking in a CentOS channel or a general Linux channel where someone who understands these differences better can help you. #ubuntu is specfically for Ubuntu help.13:25
ThisNameisCooli can't talk in linux channel13:25
Cursarioninstead of DVD/USB stick13:25
ThisNameisCoolit says i can' chat13:25
Incarus6Curarion, isn't a persistent Live USB stick easier?13:25
Dr_WillisCurly_Q:  i dont use x11vnc. so no idea.  I dont use vnc the way x11vnc works.13:25
GlycanArgh!13:25
jnlsnl_Hmm i just installed ImageCache module, and under /build/modules there are two entries of "ImageCache", "ImageCache UI", "ImageAPI ImageMagick" and "ImageAPI GD2" with the same version number ... is this intentionally ? :-) just wondering, seems strange13:25
CursarionIncarus6: no access to an USB tick13:25
Cursarionbut how do you mean persistent?13:25
bazhangruum, theres a #centos channel already13:25
PresuntoRJCursarion: ISO is like a ZIP file that contains the bootable files... so, no... but you can try to install it to an USB dongle (pen-drive)13:25
ruumoh SWEET!! he should go there then!!!13:26
Curly_QDr_Willis I am just experimenting and as you very well know when I come here I like to try diffrent things. I will try what is better or what is best.13:26
CursarionPresuntoRJ: well, the contents of the ISO file13:26
Dr_WillisCurly_Q:  it all depends on how you want to use the tool.13:26
Incarus6Cursarion, persistent means, that any changes are saved on the usb sticks and not overridden when you reboot13:26
CursarionPresuntoRJ: 'cause there's no access to an USB dongle13:26
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kurtulanyone installed ubuntu on emachines netbook with 1bm ram?13:26
tyler87yo13:26
Curly_QDr_Willis, as you said it is just a tool.13:27
Dr_Williskurtul:  emachines makes a lot of machines...13:27
jnlsnl_woooops wrong channel, sorry13:27
kim0|vacationHi folks, I'm adding a ppa (yavdr) but apt is not picking it up it seems (apt-cache policy vdr) only shows the one from universe .. any ideas why ?13:27
Curly_QDr_Willis I use it for lazy  minded people who pay me for my services.13:27
Cursarionso basically there's the HD to install on and the ISO image, which can be extracted on the HD13:27
Dr_Williskurtul:  a 1 gb ram box. should work.13:27
Cursarionbut no USB stick or CD/DVD13:27
Cursarioncan it be done with the HD alone?13:27
santhu1984 i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions13:27
santhu1984 i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions13:27
santhu1984 i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions13:27
pfifoCursarion, you can boot from a iso image if you hae grub2 installed, but you need access to linux to install grub2... however the limitations of ubiquity wont allow you to install to the hard drive that the isoimage is on so you would need 2 drives atleast13:27
PresuntoRJCursarion: not to an HD, its trivial to put on a CDR or DVDR, and not that difficult to put in a USB drive... try usb-creator-gtk13:27
Dr_WillisCursarion:  unetbootin can do some sort of live-install to a hard drive using the iso file. but i dont reccomend it.13:28
bazhangsanthu1984, please dont repeat so quickly13:28
Dr_WillisCursarion:  you could do that to one partition.. then boot it. and do a normal install to a differnt partition i guess.13:28
CursarionPresuntoRJ: the point is there are no physical USB drives available13:28
PresuntoRJkurtul: how much memory? 1G ?13:28
Dr_WillisCursarion:  or you could some how set up grub2 to boot the iso file.13:28
ubuntuHi13:28
kurtulPresuntoRJ: yes13:28
ubuntuTo run unity desktop will it require graphic card ?13:29
PresuntoRJCursarion: dont think so13:29
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bruzerAnyone?13:29
kurtulPresuntoRJ: i think memory should be ok. but would wireless work out of the box?13:29
Cursarionpfifo, Dr_Willis: grub is installed13:29
ubuntuHi Can anyone help on this post ? To run unity desktop will it require graphic card ?13:29
Dr_WillisCursarion:  grub2 can boot an ISO file - if you set it up right.13:30
bazhangubuntu, yes13:30
PresuntoRJkurtul: and how big is the HD ?13:30
Incarus6ubuntu, to run the xserver it will require a graphic card, yes.13:30
ForceDestroyergreat... I let ubuntu upgrade, and now bluetooth is nuts. The bluetooth icon says it's enabled, but when I click on preferences, it says it's disabled, and there's a large button "turn bluetooth on" that does nothing. The computer makes some kind of high-pitched noise too. :/13:30
kurtulPresuntoRJ: 160gb13:30
PresuntoRJkurtul: that should be ok then... are you facing any problems?13:31
jaidotshhelo13:31
sl33k_is virtualbox and vmware reliable for running 10.04?13:31
PresuntoRJbruzer: what?13:31
Sidewinder1bruzer: Can you get the wireless router any closer to your ;puter? Or perhaps the other way around?13:31
ForceDestroyerTrouble is, I'm still fairly new to linux/ubuntu/all of this, so the mouse not working is a problem13:31
Curly_QCursarion, even if you boot up into a disk you still need to Low Level Format it. What are you trying to do?13:31
Dr_Willissl33k_:  they should work ok.13:31
bruzerI recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.113:31
sl33k_Dr_Willis: which you prefer?13:31
jaidotshcan anybody tell me whether broadcom 802.11 is supported in 11.04?13:32
Dr_Willissl33k_:  i only use vbox.13:32
kurtulPresuntoRJ: not yet. but it's a friend's computer. i'll wipe windows and put ubuntu. i don't want to be embarrassed if let's say wifi won't work.13:32
bazhangjaidotsh, yes it is13:32
Dr_Willisjaidotsh:  differnt chipsets by broadcom have differnt degrees of support and possible issues.13:32
jaidotshbazhang thank u13:32
StereocaulonI've just upgrade form 10.10 to 11.04 but I got an error stating that the upgrade had failed leaving my machine in a possibly unstable state. Where can I find the upgrade log and should I refrain from restarting my machine?13:32
bruzerWell, I have it in the room next to me, worked fine when I had ubuntu installed a few months ago13:32
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sl33k_Dr_Willis: could you provide me the installation steps/link?13:32
Dr_Willis!vbox13:32
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox13:32
CursarionCurly_Q: install the OS without a CD/DVD/USB stick13:32
Dr_Willissl33k_:  go read the vbox manual at its homepage also13:33
jaidotshok Dr_Willis thanks for the info. gotta try it out13:33
sl33k_thanks13:33
Incarus6Stereocaulon, /var/log/dist-upgrade/ apt.log and main.log13:33
ThaTJGreeNhello13:33
Sidewinder1bruzer: That's a stumper. Did you try rebooting the router?13:33
ForceDestroyerIs there some way to disable common ACPI power saving features for ethernet and bluetooth?13:33
StereocaulonIncarus6, thanks for the locations! :-)13:33
bruzerAnd I have tried sitting right next to the router13:33
omichalekhi all, my boot time is terribly slow, after grub I have to wait several minutes with black screen before splash appears13:33
omichalekwhat can do?13:33
Incarus6Stereocaulon, where did it stop?13:34
Phalanx1234Anyone know a fix for the boot fail, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601279/.13:34
Curly_QCursarion, then you would need to be God to do that. How do you expect to install anything without a CD/DVD/USB   Unless it is a HD?13:34
santhu1984can any one help me how to use itunes in ubuntu13:34
pfifo!info debootstrap | Curly_Q13:34
ubottuCurly_Q: debootstrap (source: debootstrap): Bootstrap a basic Debian system. In component main, is extra. Version 1.0.29ubuntu1 (natty), package size 34 kB, installed size 268 kB13:34
Phalanx1234Curley_Q, Floppy Disk.13:34
* pfifo is god13:34
bazhangsanthu1984, in a vm perhaps with windows13:34
StereocaulonIncarus6, I'll post a pastebin of my upgradelog to illustrate the stopping point13:34
tjiggi_fobruzer, can you paste the result of: sudo lshw -C Network13:34
bruzerhold on13:34
Incarus6Stereocaulon, ty13:35
ThaTJGreeNsanthu1984 try 'play on linux'13:35
tyler87so, with the new 11.04. how the hell do i go about removing what i guess to be the empathy indicator and email indicator from the toolbar up top? i already removed the email software and empathy13:35
Incarus6dibs, still not working?13:35
bazhangThaTJGreeN, thats wine? that does not work well13:35
Dr_WillisCursarion:  you could also use vbox or vmware and mount a 'real' hard disk partition and isntall to that..13:35
santhu1984<bazhang> i am using only ubuntu13:35
bazhangsanthu1984, then try something else other than itunes13:36
Tongpowanyone know the 411 on getting compiz to work again in 11.4 i uninstalled unity, the visual effects tab is gone from appearance preference13:36
santhu1984<bazhang> like what13:36
Curly_QI have done the floppy disk install and USB and CD and HD. Cursarion needs to provide enough information to let us know how he will fix his problem.13:36
bazhang!players > santhu198413:36
ubottusanthu1984, please see my private message13:36
CursarionCurly_Q: I have two HDs. One of which has linux installed but when i bought a new pc i couldnt load up linux. Im going to use the old ext3 partition to extract the iso content and boot from it and install a new linux instalation on the other hard drive13:36
Dr_WillisTongpow:  install compiz package perhaps? then try install/running ccsm.13:36
ThaTJGreeN@bazhang thats the only way I know13:36
kim0|vacationrunning 64bit Natty, can I force a ppa to install its 32bit packages ?13:36
bruzerActually I can't copty paste as I'm on another laptop13:37
gidorah_hello, i have problems with installing opencv on ubuntu. here is the terminal output of make command: http://codepad.org/B9ijN98y . could anyone please help me?13:37
Dr_WillisCursarion:  you could partiton the 2nd hd. to a little partition, use unetbootin - do a live install to the partiton from the iso file. boot that  partiton. then do a normal install to the rest of the HD. perhaps.13:37
bazhangkim0|vacation, that is an extraordinarily bad idea13:37
Curly_QCursarion now you are letting us know what you are really doing. Having two hard drives is different.13:37
andeeeukdoes anyone know a good way to remove all of gnome3 after you have installed it?13:37
kim0|vacationbazhang: except when the ppa doesn't offer the packages I need in 64bits13:37
andeeeukany help would be great13:37
tyler87question: how do you edit what indicators show or remove indicators from the panel in the new ubuntu?13:37
pfifoandeeeuk, you have to reinstall ubuntu13:37
Cursarionhm, yeah, I didn't mention there's two of them13:38
kim0|vacationbazhang: 64bit natty, should be able to run 32bit apps too eh?13:38
tjiggi_fobruzer, just tell me the name of the driver13:38
andeeeukreinstall it from iso?13:38
Cursarionthanks Dr_Willis, Curly_Q & others13:38
mattyh88hey, i'm trying to install apache213:38
pfifoandeeeuk, yes, nothing short of formatting will remove gnome313:38
andeeeukpfifo you mean reinstall from cd?13:38
mattyh88but not sure if i installed it properly13:38
bazhangkim0|vacation, no idea. PPA are completely unsupported. what you propose is risk piled on top of risk13:38
ForceDestroyerWhen I start a program that should have a GUI, and no window appears... what change to 11.4 might cause this? I started it with a shell script, just ./bin/64/program in there... it's now running but invisible -_-13:38
santhu1984<bazhang> i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions13:39
mattyh88i went to the synaptic package manager and checked 'apache' and i think i installed it, but i can't find it at /etc/apache13:39
Curly_QCursarian,  SATA or IDE?13:39
andeeeukoh ok thanks, I have been having problems all morning as i installed gnome3. Now I am not able to update or install anything13:39
ubuntui can use unity but i am not able to use once install hardware drivers?13:39
StereocaulonIncarus6, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601312/13:39
andeeeukall dependancy issues have crept in :s13:39
sl33k_Dr_Willlis: can vbox be used for hardcore computations?13:39
BlouBlouubuntu: nvidia ones?13:39
santhu1984<bazhang> how to solve that issue?13:39
ubuntuATI13:40
omichalekmy boot time is terribly slow, several mintes of black screen after grub before splash appears please help13:40
bruzerbroadcom b4313:40
andeeeukreally quite shocking i would not recomend anyone install gnome313:40
sl33k_Dr_Willis:  can vbox be used for hardcore computations?13:40
StereocaulonIncarus6, "Vereisten" = "Dependencies"13:40
dr0idhow do you empty a file from the terminal ?13:40
andeeeuknot worth the hastle, you would have to reinstall everything?13:40
jaidotshbye13:40
MaxFrameshello13:40
ThaTJGreeNhi13:40
tjiggi_fobruzer, and what are the values of "Broadcast" and "Multicast"?13:40
andeeeukpfifo can you remove gnome 3 in command line?13:41
MaxFramesI have a netbook with an internal ssd hdd and an sd card, winxp is on the hdd while ubuntu + grub are on the sd card13:41
andeeeukto remove everything?13:41
Incarus6Stereocaulon, and the main.log13:41
pfifoandeeeuk, yeah, "mke2fs"13:41
omichalekdr0id: do you want to remove the file?13:41
bruzerforgive me, kind of new to linux, how do I get that?13:41
MaxFramesthe sd card is set to boot first, so when I turn the netbook on with the sd card inserted, I get grub13:41
santhu1984can any one help me13:41
dr0idno just clear content13:41
dr0id$ > filename worked, but not sure why/how :/13:41
ForceDestroyerOkay, I have no idea what I'm doing and a work-critical machine is pretty much failing, is there a clean way to downgrade, aka revert the update to 11.4?13:41
MaxFramesif I boot the netbook w/o the sd card, winxp boots (no grub)13:41
StereocaulonIncarus6, sure, I'll pastebin that one seperately13:42
bazhangForceDestroyer, full reinstall is the only way13:42
MaxFramesnow I want to remove grub from the sd card; how do I go about doing that?13:42
tjiggi_fobruzer, it's all in the output of the -C Network command I asked you to run13:42
omichalekdr0id: sorry can't help13:42
andeeeukpfifo, whats that?13:42
ThaTJGreeNdose anyone know if there is an android app to control ubuntu's desktop??13:42
lxusergood morning all, I get an error when trying to remove someone or something from my buddy list that I rejected to add. it says, "Are you sure you want to delete brennanhgd@wiredmail.info from your contacts?" and then says, "User could not be removed: Server was unable to read request. ---> There is an error in XML document (4, 173). ---> Guid should contain 32 digits with 4 dashes (xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx)." Help please.13:42
Sidewinder1ask > santhu198413:42
bruzerok, hold on13:42
pfifoandeeeuk, it is a program used to format a harddrive partition from the cli13:43
santhu1984<Sidewinder1> i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions13:43
andeeeukoh ok well i wouldnt want to do that while i am working on it13:43
StereocaulonIncarus6, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601313/13:43
zcothi guys. good place for 10.10 server LAMP/FTP permission problems?13:43
StereocaulonIncarus6, thanks in advance for lending a hand :-)13:43
pfifoandeeeuk, it works well from a livecd13:43
andeeeukthere is no way other than formatting the HD?13:43
Sidewinder1santhu1984, Can you boot to live CD and look around from there?13:44
haqzor7Hey is ubuntu 11.04 worth it?13:44
lolIn my opinion no.13:44
ubuntuHi i can use unity desktop even after installation but not able to get gui once i installed ATI graphics card driver ?13:44
andeeeukpfifo well i will right over this intsall straight with 11.0413:44
pfifoandeeeuk, no, its not possible, gnome3 replaces gnome2 stuff, you can never go back13:44
ubuntuis that require really a graphics card ?13:44
santhu1984<Sidewinder1> i am not having cd right now13:44
ThaTJGreeN@haqzor7 yes it is13:44
MaxFramesknock knock13:44
ThaTJGreeNwho's there13:45
lol@ubuntu correct you will need the drivers to enable unity.  ^^13:45
MaxFramesa guy looking for help about removing grub :P13:45
andeeeukyeah, that why i will reinstall everything over this install13:45
andeeeukformat and everything13:45
Incarus6Stereocaulon, ok, I see. Is that dutch? pls run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"13:45
Asad2005i am getting WARNING **: Liferea seems to be running already under unity but i dont see it visible i tried alt-tab not in the list13:45
haqzor7@MaxFrames I found a site where you can do that!13:45
Sidewinder1santhu1984, What about booting to Recovery Mode13:45
MaxFrameshaqzor7: "a site"?13:45
ubuntuunity is working fine before driver installation13:46
haqzor7Yea you go to the website, and it explains everything for you13:46
omichalekplease help, my boot time is terribly slow, several mintes of black screen after grub before splash appears13:46
omichalekwhat can i do?13:46
Curly_QDr_Willis thanks for the advice. I always appreciate your input. Good man.13:46
MaxFramessweet13:46
StereocaulonIncarus6, yes, that's Dutch, kinda silly that the logging is translated ;-)13:46
pfifoandeeeuk, installing ubuntu over a previous ubuntu with gnome3 will yeild undefined results, approach with caution13:46
andeeeuki really dont know why there were no warning when upgrading to gnome3 shocking really13:46
santhu1984<Sidewinder1> i am trying from that only13:46
pfifo!gnome3 | andeee13:46
ubottuandeee: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.13:46
sl33k_is amd64 64 bit os?13:46
MaxFramesso first of all; it's done from linux I guess, not from windows?13:46
santhu1984<Sidewinder1> how to get back my terminal13:46
pfifoandeeeuk, "safe downgrading is not possible."13:46
lolDoes anyone even like unity?13:46
Incarus6Stereocaulon, yeah, I allways have to translate things here, if I got a question ;) and pls paste the results of that command13:46
StereocaulonIncarus6, I've run your somewhat ominous command O_o13:47
haqzor7@MaxFrames http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore13:47
BlouBlouyes13:47
andeeeukwhy would that be? the drive would be completely formatted before reinstalling13:47
Sidewinder1santhu1984, Well, as I'm sure you're aware, if all else fails, you may need to clean install.. :-(13:47
bazhanglol #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat13:47
andeeeukno downgrade just a reinstall13:47
StereocaulonIncarus6, there were no results, just a new cmd prompt13:47
MaxFramesok thx13:47
bruzerboth yes13:48
lxuser<omichalek> when the boot list comes up, hit "recovery mode" there is an option to update Grub, try that.13:48
santhu1984<Sidewinder1>is der any way to get back to earlier version13:48
omichaleklxuser: thank you, going to do that!13:48
bazhangsanthu1984, full reinstall13:48
lxuserok good luck13:48
Incarus6Stereocaulon, lets concentrate on the packages mentioned in main.log at the end (> line 169)13:48
andeeeukreally disappointed though tbh!! my system was stable with everything i needed13:48
tjiggi_fobruzer, and the driver listed in that output is the b43 you mentioned?13:49
pfifoandeeeuk, PPA's are sometimes a bad idea13:49
Incarus6Stereocaulon, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure python"13:49
Sidewinder1santhu1984, You can always reinstall the older version, but you'll loose all of your data; unless you had/have a separate home directory.13:49
BlouBloupfifo: are usually bad idea :P13:49
andeeeuklol13:49
bruzeryes13:49
andeeeukthanks13:49
santhu1984<Sidewinder1> how to save my data13:49
Sidewinder1santhu1984, On a separate partition.13:50
santhu1984ok13:50
Incarus6Stereocaulon, btw it's not safe to reboot. the TTYs will work, but not the nvidia driver nor metacity13:50
sl33k_does this install get dual booted on startup http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download ?13:50
mattyh88how can i know for sure that apache2 is installed?13:50
santhu1984<Sidewinder1> is der any way to upgrade to latest version again13:50
mattyh88should apache -v normally work?13:50
StereocaulonIncarus6, I've executed the reconfig python line, no feedback from the cmd-line | Thx for the warning not to reboot :-)13:50
icerootmattyh88: dpkg -l apache13:51
Incarus6sl33k_, depending on your settings durin installation13:51
icerootmattyh88: dpkg -l apache213:51
Sidewinder1santhu1984, You need to aquire a Live CD, boot to it then save your data to an external drive or another partition.13:51
sl33k_Incaus6: so yes?13:51
icerootmattyh88: if the line starts with ii, its installed13:51
santhu1984<Sidewinder1>ok13:51
Mahjongghello, how do you get the system preferences user preferences menus in unity?13:51
santhu1984<Sidewinder1> how can i use itunes s/w on ubuntu13:51
StereocaulonIncarus6, could we please join a priv. channel?, the chatter makes it hard to follow your responses13:51
icerootmattyh88: and the binary is called apache2 not apache13:52
bazhangsanthu1984, you cannot, as I said13:52
sl33k_Incarus6: so theres an option?13:52
iceroot!ipod | santhu198413:52
ubottusanthu1984: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod13:52
tjiggi_fobruzer, run: ifconfig     and tell me which device (eg "wlan0) has more than zero RX packets13:52
Sidewinder1santhu1984, I know absolutely nothing about itunes; I wouldn't touch it, sorry. :-)13:52
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e75tyler8713:53
Incarus6sl33k_, of course, when you're partitioning your disk you can select if you want to remove ther other os's or if you want to have dualboot13:53
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bruzerlo13:53
tyler87can i edit the appmenu any? i dont like the empathy and evolution indicators being there.13:53
Dr_WillisMahjongg:  menu item whenb you click on the power button at top right13:54
hihihi100im upgrading to 11.04, its been like that for the last 24 hours. Yesterday, 12 hours ago, there were just 9 minutes left to download the files. 2 minutea go, I discover that the upgrader is starting to install, STARTING, not in the middle of installing or the end, but the BEGINNING; less than 5%. WTF is wrong with my machine?13:54
Ignatusso, I still can't run unity on my laptop, fresh install natty gm. Additional drivers window says "This driver is activated, but not in use" regarding Nvidia current. any workarounds?13:55
pfifohihihi100, upgrading is problematic, do a fresh install13:55
hihihi100fuck13:55
tjiggi_fobruzer, ok, one of the others should also be showing packet throughput13:55
MahjonggDr_Willis, that only takes me to power preferences?13:55
pfifohihihi100, ikr13:55
LjL!language | hihihi10013:55
ubottuhihihi100: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.13:55
bazhanghihihi100, no cursing13:55
mattyh88iceroot: no packages found matching apache213:55
tjiggi_fobruzer, what other devices (other than lo) are listed?13:56
bruzerno13:56
hihihi100a, the always welcomed political correctness...13:56
alienkid10I have Ubuntu installed on an exteral HDD since 10.04 I've upgraded to 10.10 when it came out and ran the upgrade to 11.04 yesterday. It stopped listening to my wireless KB/mouse (logitech) near the end of the upgrade but rebooted itself. I then tried to boot into 11.04 and I press enter to boot the defualt Kernel it looks like it's booting but my external shuts off before it can (seemingly) do anything. I can'r see the bootsplas13:56
mattyh88iceroot: i do have some files installed @ /usr/lib/apache213:56
bruzerwlan0 andeth013:56
sl33k_Incarus6: i just found i have a 10.04 i386 .iso file. burning is required to install?13:56
pfifohihihi100, if you really want to stan a chance of upgrading you have to keep your system uptodate and ease into the alphas and betas13:57
bblzI just installed Natty for the first time and jockey tells me that the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current) [Recommended] is "activated but not currently in use". 'Sup?13:57
bblzGTX 470 if it matters.13:57
tjiggi_fobruzer, and you don't have an ethernet cable plugged in do you?13:57
Mahjongghello, how do you get the system preferences user preferences menus in unity?13:57
Incarus6sl33k_, there should be a live mode on that cd13:57
bruzerNo13:57
step21alienkid10, what connection?13:57
hihihi100i believe my system was up to date: before installing 11-04 i updated everything that needed to be updated13:57
alienkid10step21: USB2.013:57
tyler87is it possible to resize a logical partition container with the free unallocated space being in front of it on the partition table?13:58
Ignatusbblz; got the same problem here. it was working fine under maverick for me13:58
bblzditto Ignatus13:58
marlen_jonIs there a system of voice recognition which I can use to link a function to a command that was called by voice?13:58
pfifohihihi100, no, you would have needed to go from 10.10 to 11.04 alpha a few months ago13:58
hihihi100can anyone share how much time they have needed to upgrade?13:58
tjiggi_fobruzer, run: ifconfig wlan013:58
sl33k_Incarus6: dont know about live mode, could you expand? i have always used wubi13:58
sandhupl tell me is there any movie maker for ubuntu13:58
hihihi100pfifo, a, ok13:58
Tophhihihi100,,, mone took about 5 hours13:58
tyler87hihihi100, it took me about 2 hours13:59
Sidewinder1tyler87, I believe there is. Chech this out...13:59
Incarus6!live | sl33k_13:59
ubottusl33k_: The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.13:59
sl33k_Incarus6: i would prefer wubu but it is bandwidth eating :(13:59
bruzerok13:59
alienkid10hihihi100: about 1hr 30mins but I used the alternative install CD to upgrade and ethernet13:59
hihihi100did you use the alpha, as pfifo just said?13:59
sandhupl tell me is there any movie maker for ubuntu13:59
Sidewinder1!partitioning > tyler8713:59
ubottutyler87, please see my private message13:59
alienkid10hihihi100: no13:59
tjiggi_fobruzer, still nothing?14:00
pfifohihihi100, no, not this time, i ws wrapped up in a project and didnt want to deal with bugs14:00
bazhangsandhu, sure, check in the ubuntu software center for some14:00
hihihi100alienkid16, so, download it as ISO, burn a cd and fresh install it?14:00
tyler87i already know about partitioning for new installs and such14:00
LjLsandhu: cinelerra, avidemux, stopmotion, blender, lives, openmovieeditor, jahshaka, openshot  —  GNOME: pitivi, kino  —  KDE: kdenlive  —  console: gopchop, avidemux-cli14:00
sl33k_Incarus6: thanks for the help14:00
Datzhi, is there a way to upgrade to 11.04 without unity, more of a minimal upgrade?14:00
Incarus6sl33k_, you're welcome14:00
alienkid10step21: I know it's Ubuntu shutting it off becuase the lights are on all through the boot untill I 4 seconds after I press the kernel then it goes a blank screen with a blinking cursor and my ext-HDD shutrs off14:00
hihihi100alienkid10, so, download it as ISO, burn a cd and fresh install it?14:00
pfifo1minimal | Datz14:00
tyler87and i know with primary partitions you cant resize if the unallocated space is at the front of the partition table. but i dont know about logical containers14:01
MeanEYEDatz: upgrade, logout and login to gnome classic session14:01
pfifo!minimal | Datz14:01
ubottuDatz: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD14:01
alienkid10hihihi100: no14:01
sandhupl  give  me any url14:01
trailoryochose to run ubuntu classic in login screen14:01
bazhangDatz, apart from the obvious choosing gnome classic from login?14:01
alienkid10hihihi100: download the alternative CD iso burn it and put it in your running system14:01
bazhangsandhu, in the ubuntu software center14:01
Datzbazhang: yes?14:01
bazhang!software > sandhu14:01
ubottusandhu, please see my private message14:01
marlen_jonIs there a system of voice recognition which I can use to link a function to a command that was called by voice?14:01
Sidewinder1tyler87, Then just use a partitioning tool (gparted, perhaps) to combine the two.14:02
alienkid10hihihi100: run upgradefromcdrom that is on the CD if it doesn't start automatically14:02
DatzI don't know how large the Unity package is, but I'd like to avoid downloading it, during the upgrade14:02
alienkid10Datz: use the alternative CD uppgrade14:02
step21alienkid10, but this could also be self-shut down because of inactivity. I would boot from livecd and check the grub settings14:02
Sidewinder1tyler87, Back up everything FIRST!14:02
Datzalienkid10: ah, ok I'll look into that, thanks14:03
alienkid10step21: I turned self shutdown off. But what settings do you want me to check?14:03
zcoton home webdevelopment server, I set apache to just use /home/zcot/www/ because i have ftp access there and I don't know any better , but apache is serving 403 forbidden.14:03
LjL!info gnome-voice-control | marlen_jon14:03
ubottumarlen_jon: gnome-voice-control (source: gnome-voice-control): speech recognizing applet to control the GNOME Desktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.4really0.2-0ubuntu2 (natty), package size 32 kB, installed size 208 kB14:03
pfifozcot, apache2 runs as the use www-data and cannot read those files due to permissions14:03
trailoryoanyone got problems playing .mkv in vlc? 720 or 1080.. it lags for me ;|14:03
marlen_jonubottu: Is it possible to perform this linking I was talking about?14:03
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:03
tyler87Sidewinder1, heh yeah. i still need to make a live o.s.. i was just wondering if it was possible to resize an entire container with the space in front of it before i go about trying to get everything ready14:03
tyler87Sidewinder1, thanks for the information14:04
bazhangtrailoryo, not really, though mplayer does play them more smoothly imo14:04
zcotpfifo : can/should i set that directory to be owned by apache user or something? but I still need ftp access.14:04
marlen_jonLjL: Is it possible to perform this linking I was talking about?14:04
LjLmarlen_jon: i am not sure14:04
trailoryoThanks i14:04
step21alienkid10, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB 'Booting via usb' and then check if in /boot/grub/grub.conf the right drive is entered. or you could try it on the grub command line14:04
dibsIncarus6: I tried removing and reinstalling where needed to all those files with no thirdparty repos available. Trying upgrade again now14:05
Sidewinder1tyler87, Like I said, I think you should be able to do that with extended/logical partitions; just back up...14:05
marlen_jonTHanks14:05
omichaleklxuser are you here?14:05
pfifozcot, you can change ownership or change permissions, either will work14:05
andeeeukdoes anyone know a fast mirror for 11.04?14:05
jlamotheAnyone else having problems with GNUcash under 11.04?14:05
Incarus6dibs, don't forget to reinstall "ubuntu-desktop" to match all dependencies14:05
step21alienkid10, I think it is most likely that grub passes the wrong root to the kernel or doesn't find the kernel14:05
Sidewinder1tyler87, You're more than welcome.14:05
SikSo for the Nth time in the day I tried to fix the graphics, but no matter what I do I'm completely unable to boot at all in normal mode. I have to go into safe mode for 11.04 to boot. Help?14:05
alienkid10step21: I know GRUB is using UUID to boot the drive or at least it was in 10.1014:05
idefixmy keypad numerals don't work anymore, I tried two different keyboard, with both it doesn't work, what could be the problem?14:06
pfifoidefix, try pressing shift + numlock14:06
dibsIncarus6: will do if it fails14:06
step21alienkid10, yeah I know, but it doesn't seem to work. it's just that if it shuts down that quickly this is most likely. otherwise boot into livecd and look at syslog for errors14:07
zcotpfifo : ok thank you, i will try. (is this a good chan for server stuff?)14:07
Eduardguys, is nvidia-96 fixed in 11.04?14:07
andeeeukanyone know a fast mirror to download 11.04 as the ubuntu website is v slow?14:07
Incarus6dibs, roger, and before you restart14:07
andeeeuk:)14:07
bazhangzcot, there is also #ubuntu-server14:07
idefixwith the shift button the numerals work14:07
alienkid10step21: will do14:07
pfifozcot, depends on what you want really, theres #ubuntu-server as well14:07
jlamotheandeeeuk: Have you tried the torrent?14:07
bazhangandeeeuk, thats relative; what region14:07
idefixpfifo how did you know this?14:08
andeeeuksouth uk14:08
andeeeuki have not tried a torrent14:08
step21alienkid10, just make sure it's the one of the installed system, not the livecd's ;)14:08
bazhangperhaps .fr14:08
wombatunderCan someone please private chat me for some very basic ubuntu help?14:08
jlamotheandeeeuk: That's the route I went.14:08
zcotexcellent thank you guys.14:08
bazhangwombatunder, ask here14:08
pfifoidefix, i dont know14:08
andeeeukok cheers14:08
Eduardis nvidia-96 driver working in 11.04?14:08
jlamotheandeeeuk: The nice thing about torrents is that the more popular they are, the more seeders thare are and the faster they run.14:08
marlen_jonEduard: Yes14:08
terrywombatunder: See my pm14:08
andeeeukyeah def14:09
Eduardmarlen_jon: broken deps bug was fixeD?14:09
alienkid10step21: yeah. Here's how I get to GRUB BTW: boot computer NTLDR>pick "Ubuntu Linux" and GRUB4DOS boots boot.img on the ext4 partition on my external HDD GRUB on Ubuntu appears and lets me pick what to do.14:10
marlen_jonEduard: Not sure though but I remember a simliar question from one of the members here which was eventually solved successfuly.14:10
_emilyFloodBot3 ``14:10
alienkid10step21: so look for what in my grub.conf?14:10
lavanyadeepakIs there a way I upgrade Ubuntu 10.04 to 11.04 using a CD?14:10
bazhang_emily, its a bot14:10
_emilyi know14:10
Eduardmarlen_jon: ok, thanks. I will try a clean install now14:10
bazhanglavanyadeepak, there is no way possible to do that, cd or not14:11
lavanyadeepakThe computer that I am intending to upgrade does not have a fast Internet connection14:11
OsmodivsOk, so I was upgrading from the terminal, i pressed D to see the details of what packages where going to be removed, then at the end of the page says: END, but nothing happens if I press enter, How do i continue with the proces of upgrading?14:11
CQlavanyadeepak: put in the CD and change the source, but you have to go through 10.10, can't do it directly14:11
step21alienkid10, if the drives match up. you can compar with the output of 'sudo blkid' I think.14:11
bazhanglavanyadeepak, unless you want to do a full reinstall14:11
pfifoOsmodivs, try pressing Q14:11
lavanyadeepakThat is why I need to grab Ubuntu 11.04 ona difference computer and then put it on this one14:11
hxingubuntu 1104 is awesome , in 3d14:11
FlynsarmyAnyone know how to access a windows pc that doesn't have a password via samba?14:11
isarlhi all; after my recent update to 11.04 from 10.10, I have no GUI, but I do have a virtual terminal.  I can run commands to diagnose and repair the problem, but I'm not sure what those commands are.  Any help?14:12
Osmodivspfifo, it worked. THX!!14:12
Eduardisarl: are u using xorg.conf14:12
jrib!samba | Flynsarmy14:12
ubottuFlynsarmy: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.14:12
alienkid10step21: ok so the root should be the ext4 partition on my external HDD. (which should be hd1,1 or if GRUB2 starts from 1 then hd2,2)14:12
lavanyadeepakI have another issue with my Ubuntu 10.1014:12
step21alienkid10, yeah ...14:12
sandhupl tell me we can give password to external harddisk and how14:12
isarlEduard:  I think so..?  There is a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf14:13
lavanyadeepakWhen I start Remote Desktop Viewer and when it is about to connect to remote host, the screen logs out14:13
bazhangsandhu, password?14:13
lavanyadeepakand comes to the login screen14:13
comcomisti have prob with apt-get upgrade on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/598867/ This prob blocks me from any upgrading for the last 2 weeks, can not report bug so i report it here14:13
step21alienkid10, about the grub4dos combo, I'm not really sure if it could cause errors. should be fine if you get to normal grub I guess.14:13
alienkid10step21: I'll log back into IRC from a Live CD and tell you what I find.14:13
sandhuyes password to open external harddisk14:13
step21alienkid10, okay14:13
Tophi've lost the activity panel at the bottom of my screen. How do I restore it?14:13
ouyeshello, I will get a thinkpad x201,but I do not know which version of ubuntu I should install into the box  10.04 10.10 11.04?14:13
Sidewinder1lavanyadeepak, I believe that you'll have to update version by version to go from 10.04 to 11.04.14:13
Eduardisarl: remove xorg.conf. remove your drivers(nvidia or ati)14:13
Dr_Willissandhu:  perhaps its asking for the sudo password to mount them14:13
Eduardisarl: then enable nouveau14:14
pfifosandGorgon, look into using gpg encryption14:14
Flynsarmyjrib: neither of those have the info i asked for14:14
hxingsomebody wanna talk with me ?14:14
pfifosandhu, , look into using gpg encryption14:14
pfifosandGorgon, disregard that14:14
Eduardisarl: it should get you graphics back14:14
bazhanghxing, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here14:14
* jrib sighs14:14
isarlEduard: renaming xorg.conf to something like xorg.conf.bkp would be okay? And I remove the drivers through apt-get, right?14:14
isarlEduard: Never heard of nouveau before, though.14:14
lavanyadeepakWhy does Ubuntu log me out frequently when I start remote desktop?14:14
jribFlynsarmy: so you tried to mount the share using cifs and the options on the wiki (including "guest")?  What was the result?14:15
Vardanhi all14:15
Eduardisarl: renaming would be okay. Driver remove through apt-get. Though i am not sure how to enable nouveau back, after propeartry driver has been installed. Wait a sec.14:15
vagvafhello guys, is there any way to install packages using apt to my /home folder ?14:16
Eduardisarl: can you access /etc/modprobe.d with nano?14:16
beckyI upgraded to 11.04 last night, and now I can't log in through X.  can log in via command line fine.  when I try to log in through X it looks like it's logging in then just brings back the login screen again.  an additional account does not have this problem14:16
Mahjongghello, how do you get the system preferences user preferences menus in unity?14:16
isarlEduard: I can do it with vim..!  :P14:16
Flynsarmyjrib: i didn't - but neither page have anything to do with no passwords on the windows side. the first one of the two mentions CIFS but nothing about the passwords14:16
Eduardbecky: check xorg logs14:16
KaneuAHello, everyone!14:16
jribFlynsarmy: "guest indicates you don't need a password to access the share, "14:16
isarlEduard: /etc/modprobe.d is a directory.14:16
Flynsarmyjrib: yup just spotted it. i thought that was for mounting one without a password, not accessing one. thanks14:17
beckyEdgan, looking at them now.  doesn't mean a huge amount to me though.  what am I looking for specifically?14:17
Eduardisarl: what file are in directory?14:17
jribFlynsarmy: no problem14:17
Eduardisarl: nvidia.conf is present?14:18
isarlEduard: no, there's no nvidia.conf14:18
isarlEduard: although I am using nvidia14:18
Tophbecky,,, i'm having the same problem,, it seems like Unity is crashing in my case14:18
trailoryoHow do I hotkey different workspaces?14:18
Eduardisarl: how much files do you have in this directory?14:18
step21becky, can you just not log into unity? try another desktop environment (bar at the bottom on login) and check if that works14:19
isarlEduard: 11 files14:19
SikI'm using 11.04, and I'm completely unable to boot Ubuntu now unless I go into safe mode. Seems to be an issue with graphics, but messing with the drivers (already tried all the available ones!) doesn't work at all :/14:19
beckyToph, ah Unity.  my gnome setup is heavily modified14:19
isarlEduard: most match "blacklist-*.conf"14:19
Eduardisarl: one of these files should contain a line 'blacklist nouveau'14:19
trailoryoHow do I hotkey different workspaces? please PM me the answer if u got one, Im headed out right about Now Lol =)14:19
mbn_18How do I open a minimized app in Unity? there is no mention at the top toolbar14:19
isarlEduard: Nope, nouveau isn't mentioned in any of the blacklists14:19
ouyeshello, I will get a thinkpad x201,but I do not know which version of ubuntu I should install into the box  10.04 10.10 11.04?14:19
Eduardisarl: wth14:20
Dr_Willistrailoryo:  the omgubuntu blog site has a cheatsheet wallpaper that shows the keybindings.. askubuntu web site also has a list14:20
budohello. anyone here familiar with puppylinux?14:20
Dr_Willisbudo:  they have #puppylinux i belive.14:20
pfifombn_18, click the app icon in the panel14:20
mbn_18pfifo: Which panel?14:20
budoNo one is in there to answer any questions.14:20
budoOr, no one is chatting.14:20
pfifombn_18, I have no idea what were calling it, the one on the left14:20
isarlbudo, asking about puppylinux in a channel about #ubuntu isn't likely to get good results.14:20
Eduardisarl: it should be there... check again 'blacklist nouveau'14:21
Dr_Willisbudo:  its not ubuntu. so its OT for here.14:21
bazhang!ot | budo14:21
ubottubudo: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:21
Dr_Willisbudo:  they got forums also14:21
ajinhey, guys, when wayland display server will be available for ubuntu?14:21
OY1Rlast night someone told me to reinstall grub, now grub is broken.14:21
mbn_18pfifo: Its not there. the instance is working and in the old view a small icon apeared on the top menu14:21
bazhangajin, many years from now14:21
Morkelebi intsalled ubuntu 11.4 and tried to install other languages, but none are found. it cannot connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com - so i changed the update server by detecting the best one. now i cannot select any laguange at all (none are listed anymore)14:21
step21ouyes, google thinkpad x201 and check which version has the most support for it :)14:21
MuadDibberHi. Ubuntu just updated to 11.04. But Whatever i select in grub the screen turns black14:21
budok, thanks ubottu14:21
Eduardisarl: if it was not present nvidia would be conflicting with nouveau14:21
Dr_Willisbudo:  ive basically given up on Puppylinux. except for very very low end machines and special cases14:21
Morkelebhow to fix this?14:21
pfifombn_18, im not sure then14:21
Tupladso... another nvidia talk. I've just installed Ubuntu on my laptop. the usb live version worked just fine, when I installed it it told me to get drivers, because unity can't be run.14:22
mbn_18pfifo: thx14:22
ouyesstep21, google is not as smart as people here14:22
Tupladinstalled nvidia, now I have no video whatsoever :(14:22
Dr_WillisTuplad:  whats your video chipset?14:22
isarlEduard: ls /etc/modprobe.d -> {alsa-base,blacklist-ath_pci,blacklist,blacklist-firewire,blacklist-framebuffer,blacklist-modem,blacklist-oss,blacklist-rare-network,blacklist-watchdog,dkms,libpisock9}.conf14:22
ajinbazhang: TKS14:22
TupladDr_Willis: Nvidia GT540m - I downloaded from the site, installed, rebooted... now I'm in TTY trying to fix it.14:22
step21ouyes, but as people on google, people here just say what they think. Basically it should run, there is no clear better14:22
Ignatusseems to me there's alot of us having problems with nvidia and unity/jockey in 11.0414:22
Eduardisarl: try apt-get install nouveau14:23
ajinbazhang: i just found that xorg is the cpu-killer in summer14:23
Ignatusfunny thing, it worked in beta1, beta2 broke it, now it's semi broken14:23
isarlIgnatus: a friend of mine was complaining about Unity, too, but I don't have many more details.14:23
pfifoIgnatus, nvidia gts250 here, works falwless14:23
Eduardisarl: strange as it may seem, but maybe it somehow got uninstalled14:23
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isarlEduard: Okay, will do.14:23
Dr_WillisTuplad:  downloaded from what site? I use the drivers included in the repositories.. not any from nvidia.com14:23
TupladIgnatus: indeed14:23
OY1Ri got this error when i tried to boot http://pastebin.com/i2ZahWqH , so i was told to reinstall grub now when i boot the laptop stops at a grub_ prompt14:23
isarlEduard: unable to locate package nouveau.14:23
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TupladDr_Willis: the ones from repos didn't work at all, I downloaded from nvidia.com14:23
Ignatusit works fine on my desktop tower, but my laptop is a big no go. funny...alsmot14:24
Dr_WillisTuplad:  no idea on those. I just use the ones from the repos.14:24
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TupladDr_Willis: the one in repos don't work either, I can uninstall the nvidia.com ones14:24
pfifoOY1R, it looks like your using a grub.cfg from an older install14:24
Ignatusoh well, if there's no fix for it yet, i'll just have to make do with classic for now14:24
Eduardisarl: damn, sorry i don't have any other ideas. Though you should rename your xorg.conf and remove nvidia driver. Maybe it will offer you limited graphics mode after restart.14:24
Ignatusanother problem on my dekstop though, i've got no volume slider no more, it says just waiting for sound system. but i have sound working. ideas?14:25
alienkid10who was just helping me?14:25
isarlEduard: I currently have four packages installed beginning with "nvida-", should I remove all of those as well?14:25
Eduardisarl: if not, you can always rename xorg.conf back and install your nvidia back14:25
alienkid10I think it was set21 but he isn't here anymore14:25
Eduardisarl: list them please14:25
MuadDibberAnyone idea About black screen?14:25
step21OY1R, something seems wrong with that install anyway ... from where did you reinstall it and did you have a special layout?14:25
step21alienkid10, me I guess ...14:26
step21?14:26
isarlnvidia-{173-modaliases,96-modaliases,current-modaliases,settings}14:26
alienkid10step21: yeah14:26
alienkid10step21: ok everything checks out14:26
OY1Rstep21, reinstalled from liveCD and just standard layout, everything on one partition.14:26
alienkid10it does se root= and set=root tho14:27
alienkid10set root=*14:27
mikebeechamhi guys...has anyone seen windows flickering when you drag them around the desktop. If so, do you know what causes it?14:27
Morkelebstrange language install works now after updating server and restaring language support (it checked for languages again)14:27
alienkid10thye both point to the right drive bu one does it using uuid (set=root) one does it like sdb,msdos2 (set root=)14:27
alienkid10they*14:28
cfc_{Pawpad}how do i upgrade on a server from 10.10 to 11.0414:28
step21OY1R, weird ... if you don't have any data to lose, I think the easiest would be to reinstall and make sure that it install grub in the mbr14:28
ajinbazhang: wayland is already available on ubuntu11.0414:28
alienkid10step21: I'll paste bin my menuentry14:29
isarlEduard: there are a few packages not named "nouveau" that might be what we're looking for: libdrm-nouveau1a (and $SAME-debug), xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (and $SAME-dbg), nouveau-firmware ?14:29
ajinbazhang: it doesn't make much sense for end users, but for develpers14:29
isarlEduard: the nvidia packages I have are nvidia-{173-modaliases,96-modaliases,current-modaliases,settings}14:29
bazhangajin, only experimental. its broken14:29
step21alienkid10, okay. did you check /var/log/syslog14:29
ajinbazhang: yeah14:29
OY1Ri would rather not reinstall, it's been a bit of a fuzz to get everything up and running14:29
alienkid10step21: no not yet. Here's the paste: http://pastebin.com/sRuzSt0K14:30
Eduardisarl: write the nvidia package names down on a sheet of paper and remove them14:30
step21isarl, xserver-xorg-video-nouveau iirc14:30
Flynsarmyjrib: when i try //<ip>/C i get mount error(13): Permission denied however when i use //<hostname>/C I get No address associated with hostname. any ideas on how to get IP working?14:30
deenaHi is it required to  install ATi/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics Driver or not if i am able to use unity14:30
step21deena, if you are already able to use it, it si not neccessary14:31
expedionHey14:31
pfifodeena, no there is a 2d version of unity14:31
Flynsarmyjrib: googled it and the syntax here http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susesambacifs.html#hide is slightly different to the one in the doc you linked me to14:31
Eduardisarl: on the nouveau part i'm not sure. Btw, i got to go. If after removing drivers and renaming xorg.conf and afterwards restarting pc you don't get graphics back try to install package which step21 specified14:31
KaneuAGuys, I have a question for you.14:31
Eduardand restart again. good luck'14:31
isarlEduard: Thank you for your help; have a nice day. =)14:31
alienkid10step21: I don't know what I'm lookig for in syslog14:32
deenai am able to run 3D games successfully then i hope not required to install ATI driver14:32
Flynsarmyjrib: strike that - same syntax. just not sure how to pass that permission denied error. i was using sudo14:32
expedionI am having trouble with unity and cairo atm. For one, if i enable cairo and use its full panel gui, the dock of unity on the left, still remains. 2nd of all my upper dock keeps crashing sometimes when i disable and enable unity again14:32
dibsIncarus6: still fails, need sleep though so will try again tomorrow maybe. thanks14:32
terryWhat is the default IRC client for 10.04 ?14:32
basukihi14:32
expedionIm using ubuntu 11.0414:32
step21alienkid10, just paste the last few lines or anything that looks like errors14:32
terryOr does it not come with one?14:32
Incarus6dibs, sorry14:32
deenaif i install i am not able to use unity it says clearly that i dont have hardware card but i have 215mb on board graphics card available14:32
Sidewinder1terry: X-Chat14:33
terrySidewinder1: That's what I thought.... Ok.14:33
expedionSo how do I make Unity and Compiz/unity work peacefully together when i change theme in cairo14:33
terrySidewinder1: If someone does not have Xchat, they they must not have a full install.  Right?  Or...?14:33
Sidewinder1terry: it's under Applications-->Internet14:33
expedionSo that compiz/unity adapt itself to the settings of cairo, and not remain there in its place as a prick :P14:33
bazhangterry, you can install it14:33
BKTech86hi, how can I add an entry to grub 2?14:33
alienkid10here: http://pastebin.com/pJWStJQT if you need more then I can paste it too14:34
bazhangempathy is the default iirc14:34
isarlstep21: Hm, I already had the nouveau package installed.  Moving xorg.conf and/or deleting my nvidia drivers seems to have done it.  Thank you for your help, as well.14:34
Sidewinder1terry: That's a question I can not answer.14:34
nerdshellI try to install firefox 4, I download the firefox.tar.bz and I don't no how to install it, I don't find the make file, any help please?14:34
step21deegee_, well, everything has some graphics card. probably yours (especially if it is on-board) is not sufficient.14:34
bazhangnerdshell, what version of ubuntu14:34
step21isarl, good to hear14:34
alienkid10also grub4dos is loading (hd1,1)/boot/grub/core.img14:34
isarlstep21: Whoa, not so fast, maybe..  apparently I "do not have the hardware required to run Unity."14:34
nerdshellbazhang: 10.1014:35
paideiahi, I'm trying to download flash video streams with rtmpdump, for a start I'm trying to get those parameters with rtmpsuck. Any one heres know the expected behaviour of rtmpsuck..?14:35
bazhang!fx4 | nerdshell please see this14:35
ubottunerdshell please see this: Firefox 4 is the current stable version of Firefox. Current versions of Ubuntu do not have it (see !latest), but there is an unofficial and unsupported PPA that you can use by running the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:mozillateam/firefox-stable && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install firefox14:35
expedionGuys ,any solution?14:35
Sidewinder1terry: some folks use irissi but you have to install it14:35
pfifopaideia, last i check rtmpdump is broken14:35
bazhangpaideia, any reason not to use the firefox add on for that?14:35
Akashaahi! I've just installed ubuntu lucid, but it does not start. I've already reinstalled grub, but I alwas get to the grub prompt. any ideas?14:35
expedioncan anyone actually read my messages? Im using Xirc chat for the first time14:35
Dr_Willisthat FF4 factouid needs updated a little bit. :)14:35
BKTech86does anyone know how to add an entry manually to grub2?14:36
bazhangexpedion, yes14:36
alienkid10expedion: I can14:36
nerdshellbazhang: thanks a lot, but what's the problem with the .tar I downloaded from mozilla.com14:36
expedionOk, thank goodness...14:36
step21alienkid10, maybe paste some more ... looks normal so far14:36
Dr_WillisBKTech86:  edit the /etc/grub.d/40_custom file - is one way.14:36
bazhangBKTech86, read the grub2 wiki?14:36
expedionCause im having a problem with unity/cairo that id like to have help with14:36
bazhangnerdshell, no need for it really14:36
isarlstep21: should I have installed nouveau-firmware as well..?14:36
step21isarl, yes, if it is not that could help14:37
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  it wont auto-upgrade i belive. and it wont install for everyone on the system,14:37
step21i thought it would be a required dependency anyway14:37
paideiabazhang, not particularly, I just wanted to have an automated way of watching a movie from the shell...14:37
Calzhey, how could I limit my bandwidth ?14:37
zizbanA lot people have been having issues with Nvidia and Unity.14:37
zizbanThis isn't the first time I've heard this error14:37
isarlstep21: Whoa, cool, kernel panic!14:37
expedionIve installed cairo and I changed the theme to japanese dock. Now when I enable this, the unity dock still remains and doesnt go away, so the japanese dock overlaps the unity dock, so im left with 2 different docks (themes) running.14:37
alienkid10I found something14:37
expedionHow can I solve this issue?14:37
step21bazhang, doesn't natty have fx4?14:37
Dr_Willis!info global-menu14:38
isarlstep21: "Fatal machine check on current CPU"; it rebooted itself.14:38
ubottuPackage global-menu does not exist in natty14:38
bazhangstep21, he's on 10.1014:38
nerdshellDr_Willis: you advise me not installing it?14:38
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  use teh PPA method.. forget the tar.gz14:38
step21isarl, umh, from what?14:38
BKTech86Dr_Willis: how do i know which hdX,X to use, given my partition is /dev/sda2?14:38
alienkid10step21: near the top of this: http://pastebin.com/y4kPnqWP14:38
BKTech86Dr_Willis: nvm, found the info thanks14:38
isarlstep21: I imagine from trying to use the new nouveau-firmware package… I installed it, then logged out and tried logging in again so Unity would start.14:38
expedionOh boy, Im just not bein heard at all :(:(14:38
Dr_WillisBKTech86:  sda = hd1 i think. sda2 = 2 I think.. grub2 starts ONE at 1,, and the other at 0 (whioch i always forget which way)14:38
isarlstep21: When I tried to log in, kernel panic!14:38
nerdshellDr_Willis: ok, I just wanna understand why the tar.gz doesn't work, shouldn't it contain a makefile normally ?14:39
ajinUNITY is SO wonderful14:39
glda19how used pam ore pkcs11 and pkcs1514:39
bazhangexpedion, sure you are, no one has an answer at the moment14:39
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  its NOT the source.. its a precompiled binary.14:39
pfifo!jp | expedion14:39
ubottuexpedion: 日本語の場合は #ubuntu-jp または #kubuntu-jp を参照して下さい14:39
expedionpfifo, what did u do.14:39
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  extract it and run firefox fgrom the direcyory it makes.. if you want to.14:39
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  you are better off using the PPA14:39
Incarus6pfifo, sure hes speaking japanese? I think just no one knows the answer14:39
bazhangpfifo, he's speaking english14:39
step21isarl, maybe better after restart?14:39
isarlstep21: That's the hope! =)14:40
step21alienkid10, mmmh. what file system on sdb1 (the usb drive i presume)?14:40
expedionI hope i do get an answer, because i want to use cairo in its decent form so bad.14:40
expedionThe japanese theme on it just looks so nice.14:40
pfifoexpedion, Incarus6 bazhang, if hes having trouble with a japanese dock ,there is a good chance japanese users know how to fix it14:40
ajini just cant help wondering why so many people are cursing it14:40
expedionNoooo14:40
Incarus6pfifo, thats the name ;)14:40
cfc_{Pawpad}guys is there away to change language on a server version with out reinstall it???14:40
nerdshellDr_Willis: I didn't get you... when I extract it, I found a folder named "firefox" there are binaries, images in it, how can I install it (just to know about it, I'll use the PPA méthode)14:40
bazhangpfifo, thats hardly a way to go14:40
Dr_Willisajin:  its not what people are used to. and it  makes them change their 'work flow'14:40
alienkid10step21: I need to eat breakfast I'll stay logged in but PM me anything you need to tell me14:40
expedionIts not a japanese languaged dock, it's a theme called like that in Cairo-Dock.14:41
pfifoIncarus6, ohh well in that case maybe not14:41
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  in that dir. You run the proper binary. you dont 'install' it..  you run it from that Directory14:41
step21alienkid10, okay14:41
Incarus6Maybe he's speaking chinese and that's the reason, why no one answers..14:41
step21alienkid10, just ping when you are back14:41
expedionincarus6: Am i speaking chinese lol ?:P14:41
ajinDr_Willis: yeah~;-)14:41
glda19hwo used pam pkcs11 and pkcs1514:41
Incarus6!zn | expedion14:42
Incarus6!cn | expedion14:42
ubottuexpedion: For Ubuntu help in Chinese 您可以访问中文频道:打字 /join #ubuntu-cn 或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-tw  或者 打字 /join #ubuntu-hk14:42
Dr_Willisajin:  and the fact unity basically refuses to run on my systmes untill i install the proper nvidia drivers.. is really annoying14:42
expedionOMG am I speaking chinese lol14:42
isarlstep21: Well, no kernel panic this time, but I still don't seem to have compositing.  nothing in the "Additional Drivers" settings is selected, either, although there are 3 options.14:42
Incarus6expedion, nevermind ;) did you try to remove it?14:42
nerdshellDr_Willis: ok, thanks, why should the PPA be better then ?14:42
expedionRemove cairo?14:42
redunndancyhow can i disable the unity side bar?? I just updated my system to ubuntu 11.04 and its now stuck in there14:42
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  you can install it system wide.. and it will update...14:42
Incarus6expedion, remove that japanese thing14:42
expedionU know, I tried to disable the unity from compiz so I can just run Cairo only in stead, but that leaves the upper and the left side untampered.14:42
Dr_Willisredunndancy:  select classic desktop at the GDM login for the old gnome.14:42
ajinDr_Willis: unity uses openGL to run correctly and smoothly14:43
nerdshellDr_Willis: system wide?  what does that exactly mean please?14:43
expedionSort of like a unaltered, unused space.14:43
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  for all users..14:43
expedionthat the unity docks used up, is just not used by cairo.14:43
ravnhi folks, I have problems with grub (again, what are the package perople of this package doing??). I installed ubuntu 10.10 on an old laptop which worked w.o. any problem, but after the last update I get grub out of disk. I have tried to reinstall grub, but it does not make any difference, what to do?14:43
Incarus6expedion, sorry, I can't help you ;) I'm using KDE14:43
Stereocaulon_Incarus6, thanks, it worked. I'm on Natty now.14:43
ajinDr_Willis:  so you need your VGA fully driven14:43
welloong /join #ubuntu-hk14:44
expedionWhat's better though, KDE or Gnome?14:44
nerdshellDr_Willis: yeah okay, I got it, I got it, but why doesn't Canonical support it yet?14:44
step21isarl, if nouveau is not proprietary, it will not shop up in add. drivers14:44
expedionAny difference between KDE and Gnome, incarus.14:44
expedionIncarus614:44
bazhangexpedion, ask bestbot in #ubuntu-bots dont poll here14:44
isarlstep21: how can I tell nouveau is actually being used?14:44
nerdshellwelloong:  who can you display special commands instead of making Nickserv interpreting them, like you did now ?14:44
Incarus6expedion, of course, a lot differs. If you love heavy-weighted beautiful desktops, then use KDE, if not gnome ;)14:45
step21isarl, sec14:45
Incarus6Stereocaulon_, perfect. I go to go ;)14:45
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  in 11.04 they do i belive..14:45
expedionHeavy weighted? As in it takes alot of memory?14:45
Dr_Willis!info firefox14:45
ubottufirefox (source: firefox): Safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component main, is optional. Version 4.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu3 (natty), package size 13770 kB, installed size 28684 kB14:45
Antilect!info flamewar14:45
ubottuPackage flamewar does not exist in natty14:45
Stereocaulon_Incarus6, have a lovely day :-D14:45
Incarus6expedion, ram and hd, yes ;)14:45
AntilectSame to you :)14:45
Incarus6Stereocaulon_, ty, you too ;)14:45
expedionI see14:45
nerdshellDr_Willis: okay I installed it yesterday, but I had wifi problems, so I got back to Maverik14:46
AntilectI live 64-bit ^^ Finally 12GB RAM, finally14:46
Antilect*love14:46
Dr_Willis!pae14:46
ubottuTo use more than ~3.2GB RAM on a 32bit system you can install the PAE-enabled kernel. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnablingPAE for more info14:46
Incarus6Dr_Willis, I agree, I'm using a PAE-Kernel ;)14:46
AntilectAny good channels on freenode worthy to hang in? :)14:46
Antilectexcept this shiny lot of course14:46
Stereocaulon_Antilect, and Ubuntu will always recommend to download the 32 bits edition, kind of conservative, don't you agree?14:46
Dr_Willisive heard that the pae kernel is a bit slower then an actual 64bit kernel however.. (i never use pae)14:47
coz_Antilect,  this one is a good channel14:47
thiebaudeubuntu-offtopic, Antilect14:47
medflyhi, where does ubuntu normally mount a CD?14:47
medflyI am trying to mount an iso as a CD so that wine recognizes it by default :-D14:47
Stereocaulon_medfly, in /media/cdrom014:47
Sidewinder1Antilect, You could always try #ubuntu-offtopic14:47
medflythankyou14:47
Incarus6Dr_Willis, according to phoronix, sometimes the pae kernel is slower, and sometimes the "normal" kernel14:47
Stereocaulon_medfly, np14:47
deshymerscan anybody recommend a hdd cloning tool?14:48
EduardGuys, how do i bypass broken dependencies problem with nvidia-96 driver in 11.04?14:48
EduardMaybe downgrade some packages?14:48
anthony_hi there.  I upgraded to 11.04 last night and had to reinstall deskbar-applet.  it seemed to install ok through apt-get but now I can't add it to the panel - it isn't there in the list.  any ideas?14:49
Incarus6Eduard, don't downgrade. normally it should work: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/nvidia-9614:49
Eduardthe error is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601333/14:49
Stereocaulon_deshymers, a hdd-cloning tool? you can use dd if it's not mounted but that's a bit low-level14:49
EduardIncarus6: see the link14:49
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medflyStereocaulon_: sigh, doesn't seem to have the result I expected14:50
Incarus6Eduard, which mirror are you using?14:50
Sidewinder1Eduard, How 'bout Clonezilla?14:50
Stereocaulon_medfly, I'm used to Wine, what are you trying to achieve?14:50
EduardIncarus6: dunno, out of the box default 11.04 install14:50
deshymersStereocaulon_: kinda hoping for a tool that I can boot into from usb, need to take windows off one hdd and put ubuntu on that one14:50
Guest25007yahoo messanger14:50
EduardSedewinder1: whats CloneZilla?14:50
medflyStereocaulon_: I have an ISO of a game. I want to open it up with wine.14:51
nerdshellDr_Willis: so if I understand, for software, we can install with a .deb file, with a make file or with a binary, and the binary is not system wide, right?14:51
Vessagohello every one... can anyone help me with squid3 config... please14:51
Incarus6Eduard, have a look at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/74193014:51
ubottuUbuntu bug 741930 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-96 (Ubuntu) "[natty] nvidia binary packages for older cards - dependencies not met" [Undecided,Confirmed]14:51
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Sidewinder1Sorry,Ed, that was for deshymers...14:51
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  if its in your users home.. it wont be for all users.14:51
Stereocaulon_medfly, just mount the ISO with cdemu14:51
step21isarl, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log (the end) for the driver used and something like dri = 1 or 'enabled or so14:51
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  its best to use the Repositories or PPA's14:51
cousin_mariohello14:51
deshymersSidewinder1: I'll have a look thanks14:51
cousin_marioto whom should I report a probable installer bug?14:51
Vessagoan getting proxy refusing connections14:51
Sidewinder1deshymers, OK14:52
ajaytripiHello people... i need help regarding natty installation14:52
Dr_Willis!bugs | cousin_mario14:52
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Guest25007how to download rynga in ununtu14:52
medflyStereocaulon_: I mounted it with -o loop... what else must I do14:52
nerdshellajaytripi: just post your question directly14:52
medflyit works that way14:52
medflywine just doesn't recognize it :p14:52
ajaytripii am getting an initramfs could not mount /dev/loop0 error while installing14:52
cousin_marioDr_Willis: I'm not sure about the package, it's something in the installation procedure that doesn't work properly.14:52
Dr_Willismedfly:  wine  has its own configs where you can tell it to look for a 'fake' cd.14:53
Guest25007rynga14:53
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Guest25007voice call14:53
nerdshellDr_Willis: where do I have to put the binaries to be system wide? PPA do not download and install .deb ?14:53
Guest21274Hello. I've bought 3G wireless net. It's not supposed to need a password. On PCLOS it doesn't ask for one and connects automatically. But on Ubuntu it always asks for a password. The problem is, I do not know the password.14:53
Incarus6Eduard, have you tried the official driver from nvidia.com?14:53
medflyDr_Willis: ah, okay, I think I found where14:53
EduardIcarus6: not yet, you think i should try it14:53
Guest21274According to the provider there is no password14:53
Dr_Willisnerdshell:   it would take some work - nomrlly such things go to /opt/14:53
t0thhi14:53
t0thi have a cronjob14:53
Stereocaulon_medfly, well, you can open Wine configuration and mount it specifically as a CDROM drive (try the button "Show Advanced")14:53
Eduard?14:53
isarlstep21: tail of /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows a lot of lines with "NOUEVEAU(0)" in them14:53
Incarus6Eduard, http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us14:53
alienkid10step21: back14:54
Dr_Willisnerdshell:  PPA's use debs . they are a expansion of the normal reposoptury system,14:54
pfifoGuest21274, try leaving the password field blank14:54
t0th* * * * * wget http://www.test.com/ > file14:54
Guest21274I've tried14:54
t0thwhy i have file file.1 file.214:54
ajaytripiDr_Willis: plz help... i am getting an initramfs could not mount /dev/loop0 error while installing14:54
Guest21274pfifo: I've tried14:54
kradroot@vps:~# chroot /mnt/tmp/root, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory <-- how can i deal with that?14:54
nerdshellnerdshell: so the debs are actually the best and the easiest way, right?14:54
Dr_Willisajaytripi:  means little to me. You did check the iso image befor and after burning?14:54
step21isarl, could be good ... could you paste it?14:54
step21alienkid10, hey14:54
alienkid10step21: any Idea if I can do anything?14:54
isarlstep21: I also get (when grepping for "dri"), AIGLX: dlopen of /usr/lib32/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed14:55
EduardIncarus: latest driver version for my card: 96.43.19 . It's the that was released to give ubuntu 10.10 support. No update to it yet...14:55
alaingnewbie question any good easy editors that would allow me to open a apache log file from a ssh client command line?14:55
ajaytripiDr_Willis: yes the cd is working properly on my desktop..14:55
krad/bin/bash exists14:55
Vessagohttp://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD <----- can someone pls have a look at my squid.conf and maybe tell me whats wrong, proxy is refusing connections..... thanks14:55
romankrvhi. I can selected something and click to middle button mouse But what is keyboard shortcut?14:55
nerdshellajaytripi: why don't you try the upgrade ?14:55
Dr_Willisajaytripi:  you mean it worked on a differnt machine?14:55
isarlstep21: sec, I'll paste my entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere14:55
alienkid10step21: btw sdb1 is an NTFS partition14:55
t0thany?14:55
quibblerI've just done a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04 and I have no sound - I got sound working in 10.10 by uninstalling pulseaudio and installing alsa -does anyone know what I can do to try and get pulseaudio working in 11.0414:55
ajaytripinerdshell:I am doing a fresh install... removed Windows14:55
Stereocaulon_medfly, and...did it work for you?14:55
ajaytripiDr_Willis: yes14:56
kradroot@vps:~# chroot /mnt/tmp/root, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory <-- how can i deal with that? /bin/bash exists!14:56
medflyhey!14:56
Incarus6Eduard, an Nouveau is not an option?14:56
medflyit works! ^_^14:56
medflyStereocaulon_: I was about to say no, but it does now.14:56
nerdshellajaytripi: when do you exactly get the error?14:56
step21isarl, try force reinstall all x-related packages? or at least reconfigure? does it say why it failed?14:56
Stereocaulon_medfly, what game are you installing?14:56
Dr_WillisHmm.. pulse audio uses alsa. its a layer above alsa. so exactly what did you insrtall quibbler?14:56
medflyStereocaulon_: diablo 2 :P14:56
alienkid10step21: sdb is ntfs 445gb partition with sdb2 a 20gb ext3 partition14:56
kradhi. i'm doing: root@vps:~# chroot /mnt/tmp/root, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory <-- how can i deal with that? /bin/bash exists!14:56
Guest21274Anyone here familiar with connecting 3G?14:56
ajaytripinerdshell: when booting from the cd.. it says cannot mount /dev/loop0 on //filesystem squashfs14:57
alienkid10sdb1 is ntfs*14:57
Stereocaulon_medfly, yes, that's a classic, it does contain DRM, so you might have some trouble with that.14:57
EduardIncarus6: nouveau = oddly glitched cursor. If got ideas on how to fix that, i'll be happy to use it. Bcus now i booted 11.04 with nomodeset option14:57
Dr_Willismedfly:  you can copy all files from the iso to your wine's c: and install them from there. but that wont help disk copy protection14:57
Dr_Willismedfly:  no-cd fix's may be needed14:57
isarlstep21: 803 lines of it, pasted here for your reading enrichment: pastebin.com/LtFEnHsY14:57
medflyDr_Willis: it's okay, I just mounted it with -o loop and told wine it's a CD.14:57
nerdshellajaytripi: sur the cd was not damaged, I did a fresh install quit several times, and I never got errors14:57
Vessagohttp://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD <---- any ideas14:57
Incarus6Eduard, you could unpack the deb file and copy every file to the right directory and hope that this will work14:58
ajaytripinerdshell: yes.. i hav successfully installed natty from that cd on my desktop14:58
step21alienkid10, oh okay ... does it mention sdb2 somewhere in the logs? I don't see it14:58
Incarus6Eduard, or you change the dependencies of the deb, dont know how to do that14:58
step21isarl, reading14:58
alienkid10step21: will look14:58
Guest21274is there a net work manager better than the default?14:58
alienkid10step21: yes14:59
nerdshellajaytripi: sur you burned the right OSI, the 32 or the 64?14:59
welloongernever choose x64...14:59
Stereocaulon_Guest21274, please tell me what kind of trouble you are running into instead of just dismissing a program please.14:59
ajaytripinerdshell: yes both my systems are 32- bit and so is the cd14:59
quibblerafter a fresh install of 11.04, i installed vlc,pigin, xchat ,thunderbird,skype, however from the start I had no sound14:59
Vessagoanyone keen to help me with squid3 config... please !15:00
alienkid10says it mounted on  various lines15:00
Incarus6I g2g, hope that helped you, Eduard15:00
pfifowelloonger, what if you have 32GB of memory?15:00
alienkid10I think this file has some really old boots in it though15:00
EduardIncarus6: helped a bit... thanks15:00
Guest21274Stereocaulon: I bought a wireless 3G usb thing. With PCLOS I can just plug it in and I have net. But with Ubuntu is always tells me I need a password. The provider says there is no password.15:00
alienkid10step21: says it mounted on  various lines15:00
Incarus6quibbler, unmute the sound15:00
welloonger****has joined #ubuntu *****has queit....15:01
quibblerit is unmuted15:01
Vessagosquid help please anyone.....15:01
nerdshell(appears that this Natty creats a lot of havoc)15:01
MustardCUwith what?15:01
terryidefix: see my PM15:01
ajaytripinerdshell: any ideas???15:01
EduardHow do i downgrade 11.04 to X.Org xserver 1.915:01
welloongersquid is a good thing..15:01
Stereocaulon_Guest21274, what if you just leave the pasword field empty?15:01
nerdshellajaytripi: I don't see what you could do but burning a new OSI...15:01
Vessagoyes but need help wilth this config http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD15:01
nerdshellajaytripi: sorry15:02
step21alienkid10, but no errors with regard to it?15:02
ajaytripinerdshell: ok.. I think I should try15:02
Vessagosomehow ive got something wrong and it refusing connections15:02
Guest21274it continues to demand a password. I've tried all sort of numbers from my contract, even my own password. Nothing works and I can find no setting that says "no password"15:02
step21alienkid10, anything 'not found' or 'couldn't access'?15:02
Vessagojust cant seem to figure out what.15:02
alaingnewbie question any good easy editors that would allow me to open view an apache log file from a ssh client command line?15:02
Incarus6Eduard, I advise you against doing that15:02
Stereocaulon_quibble, I have sound, but I did notice that the default sound level in Natty was quite low, you can change it from the Volume indicator15:02
isarlalaing: try nano?15:02
isarlalaing: personally, I like vim ;)15:03
Stereocaulon_isarl, me too15:03
alienkid10step21:  no just mounted with order data mode barriars not enabled and using internal journal15:03
Guest21274Stereocaulon: it continues to demand a password. I've tried all sort of numbers from my contract, even my own password. Nothing works and I can find no setting that says "no password"15:03
step21alienkid10, any other errors?15:03
pfifoGuest21274, iwconf is far superior to network-manager and if you maste it youll know exactly whats going on ;)15:03
pfifoGuest21274, `iwconfig`15:03
pepie34Hi, I've updated from maverick two computers, only on one PC I've got a problem with ubuntu classic desktop: I can not anymore rearrange task in the taskbar, nor drag and drop file to a task in the task bar. Any idea ?15:04
step21isarl, could you check if it missed to install any nouveau/dri/glx packages?15:04
alienkid10step21: any text I should search for specifically?15:04
Guest21274pfifo: can I get this from synaptic?15:04
isarlstep21: sure - which package names am I looking for?15:04
someone235hi, dya familiar with an application that i can test with the "test drive". I'm curious about this feature15:04
kradnow that i did chroot .. how can I check why the box wasn't booting .. someone apparently installed upstart and removed it .. broke things15:04
step21alienkid10, anything that looks like an error or 'no such file, no access, etc.15:04
alienkid10step21: nothing I can see besides that one from before about  Apr 29 17:46:28 adam-Ubuntu 83haiku: debug: Stage 1 bootloader not found: exiting15:04
alaingthanks isarl15:04
gwallace42Quick Question, how do I add apps to the upper panel on 11.0415:04
pfifoGuest21274, you already have it, its network-managers back end, check `man iwconfig` for usage, expect todo some reading/learning15:04
Jeruvyif an upgrade fails, where do you look for the error logs?15:05
Guest21274pfifo: ok, thanks15:05
terrypfifo: I've replaced network-manager with wicd and like it better.  It is simplier / easier to use.15:05
Stereocaulon_Jeruvy, try /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and main.log15:05
Vessagoanyone checking my squidconf ....?15:05
alienkid10step: http://pastebin.com/sC4FzuRc15:05
JeruvyStereocaulon_: thanks.15:05
XZargXIs anyone successfully using the Asus p8p67 MB (the basic board not pro or deluxe)  with Natty. Thinking of buying one...15:05
Vessagohttp://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD15:06
pmitrosI just installed Ubuntu 11.04. Virtually everything broke. Wireless network no longer works. Wired network no longer works. Windows randomly turn white. Visual effects take forever. I've been running Debian+Ubuntu for close to 15 years now, and have never run into a release this buggy. Do any of you know if there are good documents anywhere on everything broken in 11.04, and how to fix it?15:06
step21alienkid10, can you past me some lines before the'bootloader not found'15:06
OsmodivsHello. How can I download the new Ubuntu 11.04 ISO via wget? I type wget -c http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download But it only downloads the wbpage, not the ISO, and I want the 64bit ISO15:06
pfifoXZargX, I was helping a guy last night that just installed to that board15:06
alienkid10step21: http://pastebin.com/sC4FzuRc nothing about no access15:06
Vessagohttp://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD < --- awainting help pls15:07
alienkid10step21: and those are the only instenses of file not found15:07
pfifoXZargX, actually he had 2 of them working so thats a pretty good sign15:07
step21alienkid10, mmh okay. well I can only offer to look at the whole logs, otherwise I am out of ideas atm15:07
gumushi all15:07
XZargXpfifo - good news. It sounded like it should but some posts I read hinted at network LAN issues15:08
Stereocaulon_Vessago, why don't you try the #squid channel? 51 logged in right now15:08
Barridusumm, can compiz/compositing be turned off in unity?15:08
gumusi'm having trouble while trying to mount to software database15:08
gumuscan anybody help with that?15:08
alienkid10step21: want me to try to boot to Ubuntu now so I know when the boot process actually starts?15:08
quibblerDr_Willis-> i installed the Gnome Alsa Mixer and played around with that and it solved the problem. Thank you for the tip15:08
jribFlynsarmy: what command are you executing exactly?15:09
step21isarl, is lbdrm-nouveau1a installed?15:09
pfifoXZargX, he mentioned slow package downloads from the repo but i dismissed it due to high usage of the repos after releases15:09
jkgeytiHi. I cannot seem to be able to configure my HP trackpoint (touchstyk?) in 11.04. Changing mouse speed doesn't affect it, and I cannot seem to configure it correctly in my xorg settings. Any ideas?15:09
VessagoStereocaulon i have no response from any of those 50 odd guys15:09
step21alienkid10, sure, can't hurt :)15:09
Abhijithi15:09
alienkid10ok15:09
gumusi used to mount -t cifs -o user= etc. etc.15:09
alienkid10brb15:09
isarlstep21: there are several "nvidia-glx-(stuff)" packages not installed. libdrm-nouveau1a is installed.15:09
ForceDestroyerDoes anyone here know whether I can "disable Compiz desktop effects" in ubuntu, and what that means?15:09
gumusit says15:09
gumusmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on15:09
Abhijitwhat is the size of the lamp package? i can not do it by apt-cache policy. help?15:09
Stereocaulon_Vessago, just wait a while ,keep yourself logged in15:09
XZargXpfifo - thanks for the info15:09
Vessagocoolies will do thanks.15:10
gumusmount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //yazilim.cc.itu.edu.tr/yazilim,15:10
gumus       missing codepage or helper program, or other error15:10
gumus       (for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might     need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program)15:10
gumus       In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try15:10
gumus       dmesg | tail  or so15:10
FloodBot3gumus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:10
gumusok. sorry15:10
kradsomeone installed upstart and removed it .. the system hangs at booting .. is there a way to revert things to before upstart was installed?15:10
step21isarl, no, those are bad ...15:10
Flynsarmyjrib: I've done a bit of research/debugging. I'm currently using sudo mount -t cifs //10.0.0.20/C /media/desktop/c -o Guest,rw,nounix,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 user guest never worked but Guest makes it as far as asking for a password. Also on the windows machine I set it to 'People without a user account and password for this computer can access folder shared with everyone'15:10
Barridusi guess nobody knows how to disable compiz/compositing in natty?15:10
Guest21274pfifo: I just checked out iwconfig. Honestly, I don't have the time or inclination for reading and studying such. It would be easier to just do a simple reinstall. But here's the thing: one Ubuntu I can get my printer working easily where on PCLOS I cannot. On PCLOS I can get my #G working easily where on Ubuntu I cannot. I really don't have time to sit down and study.15:10
terrykrad: upstart is installed by default15:11
step21isarl, is xserver-xorg-video-nv still installed? if yes, try to remove15:11
terry!upstart | krad15:11
ubottukrad: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/15:11
Dr_WillisBarridus:  ive seen applets and commands to do it.. but never needed to.15:11
aLkyis it just me or this unity is horrible? :)15:11
Abhijithelp. for downloading reasoni need to know the size of hte apache2 package. how should i?15:11
glda19HOW used pam15:11
Dr_WillisaLky:  its a work in progress.15:11
isarlstep21: it is.  Reboot after remove?15:11
jw_I have a quick but irgent question I'm doing a fresh install and got an error while installing GRUB its asking for where to install it? I have 4 options one of them being my windows 7 partition, any ideas???15:11
ForceDestroyerBarridus: apparently I would also like to disable compiz, although I don't even know what it is. Someone told me this might be a workaround for certain windows disappearing15:11
jw_11.0415:11
step21isarl, yes, or restart x, but restart is prob easier15:12
Dr_Willisjw_ the mbr of the disk you plan on booting. ie: sda  if you only have 1 hd.15:12
jkgeytiForceDestroyer, Barnabas: unity relies on compiz, so I doubt there's a way to do it. You could replace it by replaceing unity with gnome.15:12
BarridusForceDestroyer, compiz is the nifty graphics effects15:12
terrykrad: Are you saying upstart by mistake? (Typo maybe?)15:12
jkgeytidisable it*15:12
Stereocaulon_brb15:12
linux_brb15:12
pfifoGuest21274, terry offered up wicd, maybe thats worth a shot, ive never used it though15:12
Barridusi see a package called unity-2d, which appears to be an alternate unity without acceleration15:12
kradsorry?15:12
Dr_WillisBarridus:  thats correct. I use unity2d on some of my machines15:13
jw_DR_Willis: I have a RAID and I'm just not sure which partition to install it to? Linux device mapper, Windows 7 or RAIDp6 or RAIDp715:13
alienkid10step21: I need to go15:13
terrykrad: Did you un-install upstart?15:13
Dr_Willisunity2d does not use compiz. I think it also uses the QT libs. (not sure where i read that at)15:13
kradterry, yes15:13
Dr_Willisjw_:  no idea on raid.15:13
step21alienkid10, sure. sorry that it didn't work so far15:13
alienkid10step21: I'll PM you my email address email me15:13
step21alienkid10, not sure if I can helpt but sure15:13
al_cellWhats the difference betn unity2d and classic gnome?15:14
kradterry, how can i test if the booting sequence is ok?15:14
superlinuxhi. to all arabs in this channel, a lesson IN ARABIC will be given after 2 hours from now on this FREENODE server @ channel #linuxac . lesson will be in using and configuring the /etc/fstab file and the mount command and basic formatting of disks, NO RAID NO LVM is going to be discussed. thanks.15:14
terrykrad: Oh, I see.  ... hummm not sure what to do now..  Where does it hang on bootup?  Where are you at now?15:14
aLkyDr_Willis, i know, but I its just not me (i dont like macos). Do you know when can we expect an ubuntu version that comes with gnome3?15:14
isarlstep21: remember that kernel panic from earlier..?15:14
kradterry, i managed to boot: "The rescue mode installs a temporary Slackware distro on a separate partition, gives it your IP,and then mounts your main disk to make it available:"15:14
terrykrad: If you can... just re-install it.15:14
Dr_WillisaLky:  no idea. Perhaps never by default..15:15
kradterry, is there a boot log somewhere in ubuntu?15:15
step21isarl, argh. okay ...15:15
kradjust wana see where it hangs15:15
superlinuxrepeat:15:15
superlinuxhi. to all arabs in this channel, a lesson IN ARABIC will be given after 2 hours from now on this FREENODE server @ channel #linuxac . lesson will be in using and configuring the /etc/fstab file and the mount command and basic formatting of disks, NO RAID NO LVM is going to be discussed. thanks.15:15
isarlstep21: to be clear, this kernel panic happened during startup after the reboot.  second reboot underway now.15:15
aLkyDr_Willis, why do you think so? Are they planning to move to unity and leave gnome?15:15
superlinuxok thanks bye15:15
bazhangsuperlinux, dont advertise here15:15
isarlstep21: and seems to have disappeared.15:15
lcbsuperlinux, we saw that already, thanks15:15
terrykrad: So you booted from a Slackware CD?  Is that what you are saying?15:15
pfifokrad, if you dont want to reinstall you can chroot into the install and add upstart back15:15
step21lol15:15
isarlstep21: transient behaviour, perhaps.  :D15:16
kradi chrooted into the install15:16
Dr_WillisaLky:  the blog/discussions  basically they will stick with Unity for the time being. unity does run on top of gnome. Its an alternative shell to the gnome3 shell.15:16
raven_how to set EXIF-Date and time from filename?15:16
terrykrad: Yea, as pfifo says, just re-install upstart.  sudo apt-get install upstart15:16
isarlstep21: Okay, at my desktop again.  Once again, no compositing.  Want a fresh Xorg.0.log?15:16
kkalDr_Willis: as a form of punishment for something?15:16
cousin_marionatty is so much fail15:16
pfifosudo in a chroot15:16
Dr_Willisraven_:  theres exif tools in the repos. you may nbeed to write a script  for the task.15:17
terrypfifo: well, just apt-get install upstart15:17
d1gitalhas there even been such complaining about an Ubuntu release?15:17
kkalunity.launcher forgets that it has running instances of google-chrome and launches new ones every time.15:17
maddieI've been looking for an answer for two days now and have come up with nothing. Essentially the launcher icons revert to default upon every damn login even when I uncheck them or check new ones!15:17
Abhijithelp. for downloading reasoni need to know the size of hte apache2 package. how should i?15:17
Dr_Willis!info apache215:17
ubottuapache2 (source: apache2): Apache HTTP Server metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.17-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1 kB, installed size 36 kB15:17
kradterry, upstart wasnt there .. and the system was booting until it was installed15:17
pfifokrad, tack on a `dpkg-reconfigure upstart` once your nstall upstart just to be safe15:17
kraduntil it was installed/uninstalled15:18
maddieDoes anyone understand what could be wrong?15:18
Dr_WillisAbhijit:  its a meta package. so it will be the size of whatever it needs to pull in. which will depend on what you allready have installed.15:18
terrypfifo:  what did you have installed in the first place?  What distro, what version?15:18
isarlstep21: Interesting.  Xorg.0.log says at one point, "Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 0"15:18
aLkyDr_Willis, yeah I know that. Unity is more suitable for netbooks with small screens. I hope they still keep supporting the gnome3 shell too.15:18
pfifokrad, what version of ubuntu are you using?15:18
AbhijitDr_Willis, can i get its .deb anywhere?15:18
isarlstep21: before proceeding to nouveau, nv, vesa, and fbdev, in that order.15:18
step21isarl, mmh, sorry, but not sure what to try now either and I should get going15:18
terrykrad:  what did you have installed in the first place?  What distro, what version?15:18
kradpfifo, terry, http://pastebin.com/pc6qrj5h15:18
step21isarl, it did that before as well15:18
Dr_WillisAbhijit:  the .deb would be pointless. all the deb does is 'depend' on other packages.. you would need all the packagves it depends on as well. or else you download them when you install the deb.15:19
isarlstep21: Alright; thank you very much for all your help. =)15:19
maddieI've been looking for an answer for two days now and have come up with nothing. Essentially the launcher icons revert to default upon every damn login even when I uncheck them or check new ones! Does anyone have an Idea?15:19
AbhijitDr_Willis, ok15:19
step21d1gital, there is always complaining :)15:19
pfifokrad, thats not a fail condition, your still ok15:19
raven_Dr_Willis, which exif tool for example?15:19
AbhijitDr_Willis, i have lamp installed in my this system. is there any way i can copy paste this apache2 server to friends laptop? only apache server that is15:19
kradhow can i know which version of ubuntu i'm running.  uname -a doesnt give it15:20
step21maddie, are you using the livecd?15:20
AbhijitDr_Willis, friend also have ubuntu15:20
ph88how do i setup my connectiong to connect through a proxy server ?15:20
icerootkrad: cat /etc/issue15:20
maddiestep 21, nope15:20
krad9.0415:20
Dr_Willisraven_:  apt-cache search exif      theres several of them i recall seeing. I rarely use them15:20
Dr_Willis!aptoncd | Abhijit15:20
ubottuAbhijit: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline15:20
raven_Dr_Willis, ok tnx15:20
Stereocaulon_krad, whoa, that's ancient15:20
terrykrad: dpkg -i upstart15:20
maddiestep 21, I used the update manager15:20
kradErrors were encountered while processing:15:21
krad upstart15:21
Dr_WillisAbhijit:  if you are on the same lan. You can set up an apt-cacher-ng server to cach all the packagfes for the whole lan. and save download time/ussage15:21
icerootterry: what should that command do?15:21
step21maddie, good luck, but no idea then15:21
Dr_Willis!9.0415:21
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) was the tenth release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: October 23, 2010. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.15:21
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tsankohI15:21
terryiceroot: install upstart15:21
onelinerhello there, graphical interface completely haywire in 11.04 on my machine, id like to try and force default options to see if its a compiz thing before looking at graphics drivers15:21
tsankoeVERY ONE15:21
icerootterry: not really15:21
kradroot@vps:/# dpkg -i upstart, dpkg: error processing upstart (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory, Errors were encountered while processing: upstart15:21
AbhijitDr_Willis, but sadly i have now cleaned the apt cache. so i dont have those packages. so aptoncd is not helpful. any other way?15:21
Dr_WillisAbhijit:  download them again. if they are gone.. they are gone.15:22
icerootterry: dpkg -i wants local deb-files15:22
ph88how can i make a connection through a proxy server ?15:22
Gnea!ppa15:22
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk.15:22
AbhijitDr_Willis, ok15:22
icerootterry: maybe you mean "sudo apt-get install packagename"15:22
terryiceroot: O15:22
maddiestep21, okay, do you know of any helpful resources other than askubuntu, this irc, /r/linuxquestions, asklinux, ubuntu forums, and the ubuntu launchpad?15:22
Stereocaulon_krad, what kind of processor and how much mem do you have do you have in that box running 9.04?15:22
icerootph88: on what? your browser? the shell?15:23
ph88i have ubuntu 11.04 i would like to use a proxy to redirect all traffic of a certain network interface15:23
brian_pfifo: wicd worked. Thanks.15:23
Dr_Willisph88:  clarify that. Im not sure a proxy does that sort of task..15:24
brian_Terry: Wicd worked, thanks15:24
pfifobrian_, that was all terry15:24
jribFlynsarmy: so it works now?15:24
brian_pfifo: I'm glad you pointed his advice out. I cannot keep up with the traffic here. :)15:24
TupladHow can I get "glx" support ? I'm trying to install unity, but with no success. nvidia drivers just won't work.15:24
tsankoThis chat room is for help15:24
tsanko?15:25
pfifo!yay | brian_15:25
ubottubrian_: Glad you made it! :-)15:25
Flynsarmyjrib: no. i can get as far as it asking me for a password now. but still says permission denied when i just press enter without typing anything15:25
ph88i want to use my nokia n900 as modem, but i can't get it to connect, the vodafone information page says i need to use a proxy, but i don't know where to enter this information15:25
iceroottsanko: correct15:25
iandiHello! I'm having problems installing ubuntu 11.04 from usb, this has worked flawlessly with the previous releases. All i get is busybox i cant get into the install shell15:25
terrybrian_: np15:25
tsankoohhh i think it was for chating15:25
Dr_WillisTuplad:  whats your video chipset?15:25
TupladDr_Willis: Geforce GT540M15:26
pfifoiandi, tru using a different USB port15:26
santiHello! I'd like to add my IPv6 Tunnel from HE with this command: "ifconfig sit0 inet6 tunnel ::216.66.84.46", and I get as answer only: "SIOCSIFDSTADDR: Kein Hauptspeicher für den Puffer verfügbar"15:26
jribFlynsarmy: should be your sudo password, no?15:26
lopyshokhi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i ca't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;)15:26
lcbph88, http://goo.gl/X1dxK15:26
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/38449/unity-desktop-does-not-load-it-switches-to-classic-mode15:26
Dr_WillisTuplad:  the drivers from the repos dont work? You could try the answers given here --> ^^^15:26
iandipfifo: will do, ill get back to you15:26
brian_ubottu: me too! It saves me from reinstalling and having to figure out the whole rpm thing. :D15:26
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:26
onelineri have the weirdest errors on the graphicall interface; although i have two 21" lcds coupled to a decent nvidia card, all and any program windows open at 800X600 , snapped to the upper left corner, unmovable, unresizable15:27
marcelChttp://pastebin.com/0DH2Ed3L15:27
ph88i will have a look lcb15:27
TupladDr_Willis: I don't think they work, because I can't access nvidia settings and I can't install unity.15:27
lopyshokhi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i ca't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;)15:27
onelinerand there s no sidebar icons thingy15:27
lcbph88, that's a pretty explanatory tuto15:27
Dr_WillisTuplad:  you are upgradeing? or what exactly? theres Unity-2d you could use I guess15:27
TupladDr_Willis: fresh install, I want Unity-3d, not 2d :D15:28
Flynsarmyjrib: ahh yes you're correct. still getting error(13) permission denied though15:28
Dr_Willisoneliner:  unity seem to have some issues with multi monitor support. sounds like its just crashing on you15:28
maddie I've been looking for an answer for two days now and have come up with nothing. Essentially the launcher icons revert to default upon every damn login even when I uncheck them or check new ones! Does anyone have an Idea?15:28
trihopeKM0201: how are you doing this morning?15:28
ph88lcb i don't want to setup a proxy server, i want to connect to a proxy server provided by my internet provider15:28
Dr_WillisTuplad:  unity is installed by default.. and it needs the 3d drivers..15:28
aLkyguys do you know of software (like logmein, teamviewer, easypcgate) to login remotely to an ubuntu machine (without real ip)?15:28
marcelCI have some upgrade problems, anyone get some ideea? http://pastebin.com/0DH2Ed3L15:28
isarlHi all; I seem to be having some troubles with nouveau.  Any help?15:29
Dr_WillisaLky:  teamviewer exists for ubuntu/linux15:29
TupladDr_Willis: exactly, everything is installed, but it doesn't work. GLX doesn't seem to work and I can't make it work :(15:29
onelinerDr_Willis: should i use a non unity launcher or should i offer myself as guinea pig for the dev teams? :)15:29
jester40Hello to everyone15:29
terrymaddie: Can you rephrase  your question?15:29
aLkyDr_Willis, didnt know that. Thank you very much15:29
Dr_Willisoneliner:  personally - im testing out Lubuntu  for the time being.15:29
lopyshokhi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i can't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;) on the panel ( where start<he is)15:29
Vessagohttp://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD15:29
cousin_mariomarcelC: why are you using backports in the first place?15:30
Dr_Willislopyshok:  try alt-tab to see if it pops up?15:30
jester40Can anybody help me setup my wireless card15:30
Mahjongghi, apply button in synaptic does not become active after marking the items under residual config as complete removal15:30
cousin_marioit sounds like a recipe for trouble15:30
Dr_WillisBBL15:30
Barridusis gwibber nonfunctional?  i can't get any tweets15:30
enrylinuxproblema iso ubuntu 11.0415:30
marcelCcousin_mario, for some other packeges I got installed related to apache, sql.mysql,wordpress etc15:30
lcbinfo connect-proxy  | ph8815:31
cousin_mariomarcelC: I would disable those repositories during the upgrade process15:31
lcb!info connect-proxy  | ph8815:31
ubottuph88: connect-proxy (source: connect-proxy): Establish TCP connection using SOCKS4/5 or HTTP tunnel. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.101-1 (natty), package size 20 kB, installed size 84 kB15:31
marcelCoky15:31
lopyshokDr_willis can't ;(15:31
lopyshok=('15:31
ph88ok thx15:31
onelinerok so i need to create a couple of launchers on the desktop, if any one could give me a hand with the actual command for launching a new terminal window and compiz configurator id apreciate15:31
lopyshokhi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i can't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;) on the panel ( where start<he is) HElp me ;)15:31
eltigreI am having trouble with the unity interface... before upgrading I was able to use the Empathy chat client15:31
TupladAnyone knows how to activate GLX ? Can't seem to get it right, Unity etc. doesn't work.15:31
pfifooneliner, the first is `/usr/bin/gnome-terminal`15:32
eltigrenow my accounts don't connect and I can't find any way to change my accounts15:32
maddieterry hmm well... maybe that's part of my problem. okay, on a fresh install of 11.04 unity there are default icons (these inclide libreoffice, ubuntu one, etc) When I try to modify these, as in remove them form the launcher or add new ones to the launcher, all is well until I log back in - the same default sequence is there (libreoffice, ubuntu one)15:32
terryoneliner: I usually just set F12 as hotkey for terminal.15:32
eltigreAlso, how am I supposed to find settings in unity anyway??15:32
maddieterry sorry for grammar mistakes it's early15:32
lcbeltigre, sudo dpkg-reconfigure empathy15:32
pfifoeltigre, its in the power menu, top right15:32
onelinerpfifo thanks terry thats actually a good idea15:32
eltigreah ok sorry15:33
Barriduseltigre, click on the "shut down" icon in the upper right, system settings is in there now for some reason15:33
Barridus(not a trick i promise XD)15:33
raven_FileDates to EXIF: need to write exif dates by using the last-modified-date - how?15:33
eltigreyes15:33
eltigrethank you15:33
eltigreat the moment the interface freaks me out because all the panels are missing15:34
glda19how used pam pkcs1115:34
Linuxfavupon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?15:34
jribFlynsarmy: what happens with lowercase "guest"?15:34
Flynsarmyjrib: same thing. error 13 - permission denied15:34
jribFlynsarmy: can you access the share elsewhere?  Like from another windows machine?15:35
terryLinuxfav: What screen do you have now?15:35
lopyshoki can't see exe file what is possiable15:35
lopyshok?15:35
Linuxfavterry:Ubuntu classic(no effect)15:35
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tjiggi_fo!ru | lopyshok15:36
ubottulopyshok: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite /join #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke15:36
docmurIs there any application to convert videos for the ipod15:36
terryLinuxfav: what display card do you have?15:36
RockjAnyone uses Deja Dup? does it require a lot of tmp storage?15:36
terrydocmur: From __________  to ___________?    From .mov to .avi or....? what?15:36
emjhow do I get a  VNC connection to my fathers ubuntu desktop? I need to help him install som programs for internet Tax filing...15:36
pfifo!ffmpeg | docmur15:37
some_dude1234hi all15:37
pfifo!info ffmpeg | docmur15:37
ubottudocmur: ffmpeg (source: libav): Multimedia player, server, encoder and transcoder. In component main, is optional. Version 4:0.6.2-1ubuntu1 (natty), package size 239 kB, installed size 1040 kB15:37
Linuxfavterry:I have done the unity support test and it says unity is supported.....my graphics card is>>>02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)15:37
terryemj: install x11vnc on his PC and use vncviewer on yours.  (Install tightvnc on yours.)15:37
raven_FileDates to EXIF: need to write exif dates by using the last-modified-date - how?15:37
Antilect:)15:37
emjterry: no default ubuntu remoet support app?15:37
Gnea!vbox15:37
ubottuvirtualbox is a x86 !virtualizer. A !free edition is available from the package 'virtualbox-ose'. A non-free edition is available at http://virtualbox.org for most Ubuntu releases (help in #vbox) - Setup details at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox15:37
Rockjemj: requires you to open the port on his router, or you running a lisntning daemon which he can invite.15:37
terryemj: They are both Ubuntu?15:38
enrylinux11:04 iso installation problem stops, but nothing I tried different iso pc works perfectly I also made ​​a test with an old iso of ubuntu 9.10 and that works perfectly15:38
emjterry: sure15:38
ranger03i am getting the idea that unity cannot be customized at all. I really need my 8 virtual windows..not 4...can i change it back to 8 ?15:38
terryemj: Ok. Rocky can prolly help you.15:38
Rockjemj: I normally use Teamviewer ( www.teamviewer.com ) , free for personal use and always works thru firewalls etc and works towards all OS.15:38
Rockjemj: but if your looking for a permanent solution, opening port and fix vnc would be better.15:38
emjRockj: Firewall is no problem they are all Linux soo.. :-)15:38
cousin_mariobye15:38
some_dude1234I just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and surprise surprise, the most important thing stopped working (wireless). I have an Intellinet USB Adapter for the wlan. It worked fine in 10.10 and also here in 11.04. Networkmanager does show me the ESSID's around but I cannot connect to my WPA/PSK encrypted accesspoint. Any hints or further information needed, I would appreciate your help. Thank you15:39
terryLinuxfav: And you have installed Nvidia driver on it?15:39
emjRockj: but I'll accept that solution.15:39
Vessagohttp://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD15:39
ph88but this is cute :) http://www.betavine.net/bvportal/resources/datacards/netbooks/eeepc15:39
sieboI'm getting an error when trying to install openssl in karmic15:39
sieboFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_0.9.8g-16ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.166 80]15:39
Flynsarmyjrib: hmm. can't access from XP. guess it's on the Win7 side. will look further into it i guess. Thanks for the help15:39
emjRockj: wish there was a GUI for it though.. :-)15:39
Linuxfav<terry>yes the propietary driver15:40
Rockjemj: for vlc? there is plenty ..15:40
bulk12!female15:40
bulk12!male15:40
bulk12!hooker15:40
Rockjemj: s/vlc/vnc/ ;)15:40
bulk12Oh, well.15:40
Dr_Willis!fisn | bulk1215:40
FloodBot3bulk12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:40
terryLinuxfav: Do you think that bypassing the proprietary driver will help?15:40
siebohere's the whole error output: http://pastie.org/185065815:40
raven_FileDates to EXIF: need to write exif dates by using the last-modified-date - how?15:40
LjLbulk12: please don't15:40
Dr_Willis!fishing | bulk1215:40
ubottubulk12: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".15:40
emjRockj: :-) That doesn't make things easier. (but indeed vlc does need a GUI)15:40
bulk12k guys All is fine15:41
HTCPXShould I enable hyperthreading or not?15:41
Linuxfav<terry>i dont know....those drivers worked perfectly well before15:41
bulk12I didn't break anything. keep up the good work15:41
kornicameisteranyone with scilab expierence here ?15:41
terryLinuxfav: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak   #Will bypass it.15:41
ranger0315 icons on the right menu bar is nowhere near enough functionality for linux power users. I need more virtual windows, or customize Unity, or Ubuntu 11.04 will be reformatted off my system.15:41
enrylinuxqualcuno parla italiano15:41
terryLinuxfav: And will put you back on the open-source driver.15:42
oneliner_swel! thing thing is totally surrealistic15:42
tjiggi_fo!it | enrylinux15:42
ubottuenrylinux: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)15:42
siebonm, just needed to do an apt-get update...15:42
some_dude1234I just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and surprise surprise, the most important thing stopped working (wireless). I have an Intellinet USB Adapter for the wlan. It worked fine in 10.10 and also here in 11.04. Networkmanager does show me the ESSID's around but I cannot connect to my WPA/PSK encrypted accesspoint. Any hints or further information needed, I would appreciate your help. Thank you15:42
Rockjemj: GUI for setting up vnc server? If your using gnome your finding that under system - preferences - remote desktop  (that should be vnc I think)15:42
Dr_Willisraven_:  perhaps this can do that.. (it seems to do the reverse from its description) --> renrot - Rename and rotate files according to EXIF tags15:42
Rockjemj: if your looking for a GUI client for VNC, try  apt-get install xvnc4viewer15:42
PalinBachman2012im getting 404's trying to install some programs15:42
Linuxfav<terry>and if that does not worked....how i revert back....just copy it back to where it was?15:42
Rockjemj: anyhow, what was the issue and I'll try to help more directly to your problem.  :)15:43
Dr_Willisraven_:  also pyrenamer is a bulk rname tool. it comes up when i search for exif, it may have some features15:43
warp_Hi everybody15:43
puckipediaHi15:43
lcbemj, my 2 tokens; TeamViewer (graphical) or putty + ssh (CLI)15:43
dynoboyzhi15:43
terrysome_dude1234: Turn off encryption on the router and try it.15:43
oneliner_i would like to try to get to a proper visual configuration for a multi monitor display, i think the first thing is ; compiz complains there is already a window manager running for the display set "0.0" i wonder: how can i know which manager that is?15:43
Rockjlcb: agree, TeamViewer is such a breeze to use.15:43
iandipfifo: check here for error http://twitpic.com/4rgyk115:43
puckipediaHow can you close a window in irssi?15:44
raven_Dr_Willis,  possible but i cannot find the option to read out the last-modified dates15:44
muneebhi..  i'm having problem with minimize maximize buttons.. they don't glow when i hover over them.. any help??15:44
silveryhi, how can I upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 (both 32x) using alternate CD?15:44
terrypuckipedia: /leave15:44
lcbRockj, yeap, with the advantage of being used from everywhere15:44
puckipediathanks15:44
terrypuckipedia: If it is a pm   /q15:44
ouyessorry to ask again, after a lot of search via google and ubuntuforums, I still cannot find a version suitable for my laptop thinkpad x201, should I get 10.04 and make a lot of configurations myself during the installation?15:44
puckipediak15:44
Stereocaulon_muneeb, which GPU do you have?15:44
Rockjlcb: mhm, and it runs on "any" OS. (at least the most common ones ;))15:44
Dr_Willisraven_:  if you can find a command to change the tags from the command line. You could write a script to read the file name, and parse the name and set the exif info. I dont see any exif writeing tools in my quick looking at the package manager.15:44
lcbRockj, :)15:45
pfifoiandi, the actual error is not on that screen, use 'dmesg|less'15:45
Dr_Willisraven_:  theres patch - that may do it.. it seems to do a lot.15:45
raven_Dr_Willis, how to read out the dates by cmd?15:45
Bonniet15:46
raven_Dr_Willis, which patch?15:46
Dr_Willisraven_:  you make a script that does somthing for each file. and have the script parse the filename and extract the date.15:46
Dr_Willis!info patch15:46
ubottupatch (source: patch): Apply a diff file to an original. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6-3 (natty), package size 119 kB, installed size 244 kB15:46
muneebStereocaulon_,  ATI Readon15:46
Dr_Willis!info phatch15:46
ubottuphatch (source: phatch): simple to use Photo Batch Processor - GUI. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.2.7.1-1 (natty), package size 217 kB, installed size 812 kB15:46
warp_well, I was trying to upgrade ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04 version when my laptop was turned off, cause battery failure... and now I need to resume the upgrade. How can I do that?15:46
Dr_WillispHatch :)15:46
iandipfifo: where do i type that? in busybox?15:46
Linuxfavterry:will the open source driver be as efficient as the proprietary one....do i have to install it?15:46
muneebStereocaulon_,  i think it's ATI 420015:46
pfifoiandi, yes15:46
Dr_Williswarp_:  eww..  that could be bad.15:46
santiI'd like to add my IPv6 Tunnel from HE with this command: "ifconfig sit0 inet6 tunnel ::216.66.84.46", and I get as answer only: "SIOCSIFDSTADDR: Kein Hauptspeicher für den Puffer verfügbar" - Ubuntu 11.04. Thank you!15:47
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emjTime like this I really dislike 3G connections.. :-( VNC is slooooow.15:47
iandipfifo: what is that letter or symbol after dmesg15:48
muneebStereocaulon_,  i switched to classic when Unity didnt work.. resetting unity was taking lot of time so i switched to classic15:48
puckipediaa pipe15:48
pfifoiandi, what filesystem is ont he USB and how did you prepeare it?15:48
iandipfifo: startup disk creator15:48
pfifoiandi, its a vertical bar, above the \ key on us qwerty15:48
Stereocaulon_muneeb, the fact that Unity does not work, means that you are using GPU drivers which are not optimal for your GPU15:49
pfifoiandi, fat32 filesystem then i presume?15:49
Linuxfavterry:can u tell me what's the problem...i checked the nvidia website...my graphics card is supported with this driver version15:49
iandipfifo: i have swedish keyboard but console is using english i think, makes it hard to know what to press15:49
iandipfifo: yes, fat3215:49
iandipfifo: i've also tried universal usb installer from windows15:50
Stereocaulon_muneeb, I'm also on Classic BTW, but with an nVidia 9600 LT15:50
puckipediaiandi:if you can find the backslash, you could use pipe (shift+\)15:50
pfifoiandi, screenshot `fdisk -l` if it runs properly15:50
muneebStereocaulon_,  Unity did work but i screwed it up... and it's not getting reset15:50
Stereocaulon_muneeb, ah, I switched from Unity back to classic after a first glimpse at Unity.15:51
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DerpNauceWhen I use "sudo pkill tor" in the terminal, the Indicator Applet and Indicator Applet Session stop working and have to be reloaded.  Is this to be expected from pkill?15:51
HTCPXdoes ubuntu support hyperthreading?15:51
glda19who can help me with dis15:51
pfifoDerpNauce, yes15:51
glda19Couldn't verify Cert: Peer's certificate issuer has been marked as not trusted by the use15:51
DerpNaucepfifo: Will this happen every time I use pkill?  Is there a way to make it not kill the indicator applet family?15:52
RockjHTCPX: yes. Run up a task maanger and you'll see you got extra cores.15:52
pfifoDerpNauce, use `kilall tor`15:52
pfifoDerpNauce, use `killall tor`15:52
DerpNaucehm, I guess I need to find out what pkill does15:52
RockjHTCPX: all linux distros support it aslong as they have a kernel that compiled support for it (which is pretty common now a days ;))15:52
DerpNauceOH15:52
glda19Couldn't verify Cert: Peer's certificate issuer has been marked as not trusted by the use15:52
DerpNauceindicaTOR15:52
pfifoDerpNauce, its caue indacator has 'tor' in it15:52
Stereocaulon_DerpNauce, right!15:52
HTCPXrockj do you know if its worth enabling on a p4 northwind?15:53
DerpNaucethank you u_u15:53
muneebStereocaulon_, well unity wasnt working until i installed proprietary  drivers then it worked then i played in compiz and all got screwed.. so i'm trying to reset it and it's not working :( even classic got screwed :(15:53
Tecandoes quicklounge applets work for anyone with 11.04 ?15:53
oneliner_how to reconfigure window manager?15:53
oneliner_from terminal :)15:53
Linuxfavterry:r u there?15:53
Linuxfavupon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?15:53
Stereocaulon_muneeb, check the answers that oneliner__ will get as they could help you.15:54
DerpNauceNoob question, how do I find out the name of a pid?  I typed "pgrep tor" and it gave me a bunch of 4-digit numbers, not sure how to get process names from them15:54
RockjHTCPX: there's a lot of debate on how efficient hyperthreading is, for multitasking and normal software usage I would say yes. For gaming on windows, it actually might be ther other way around. (at least from the last time I read up on it)15:54
puckipediaoneliner_:ctrl+alt+f2, login and type "compiz --replace &" and press ctrl+alt+f7 or f815:54
Stereocaulon_muneeb, please try the following to restore unity: sudo dpg-reconfigure unity15:54
meisth0thDerpNauce, ps aux|grep <pid>|grep -v grep15:54
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DerpNaucethanks meisth0th15:54
Stereocaulon_muneeb, Correction, please try the following to restore unity: sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity15:54
meisth0thDerpNauce, you're welcome15:54
Linuxfavupon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?15:55
RockjHTCPX: but then again, games now a days take more efficient usage of multiple cores so hyperthreading might still be good for gaming in windows. It actually depends on pr game last time I read on it :)15:55
Crazy1hello everyone15:55
muneebStereocaulon_, ok.. i'll try it15:55
RockjHTCPX: anyway, short answer - yes I would enable it :-)15:55
Crazy1i want ask some question15:55
Crazy1can anyone help me??15:55
Stereocaulon_Crazy1, go ahead and ask your question15:55
puckipediaLinuxfav:You could try rebooting your computer, when bios disappears, hold shift. choose recovery and you could repair it from there15:56
meisth0thactually you already asked one question :)15:56
Crazy1\b(?<Word>\w+)\b\s+\k<Word>\b15:56
Sidewinder1glda19, I had that happen once. The battery was dead in a computer that sat unplugged for weeks and the current date was, like, 8 years ago...15:56
camarllonmeisth0th: its true (Y)15:56
bazhangCrazy1, rephrase15:56
Crazy1did anyone know what this means15:56
Crazy1\b(?<Word>\w+)\b\s+\k<Word>\b15:56
Linuxfav<puckipedia>repair it....why...15:56
Stereocaulon_Crazy1, try a tutorial about regular expressions15:57
Sidewinder1glda19, Reset the date and all was A-OK; Not saying that that's your problem, but...15:57
camarllonCrazy1: it is a regular expression...15:57
ibeekmanwow the UI in Natty got all kinds of messed up15:57
glda19Sidewinder1, what did you mean15:57
puckipediaLinuxfav:go to root console, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"15:58
puckipediaLinuxfav:Correction: "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" in root console15:58
kwtmCrazy1: It is a regex that describes a pattern to look for in text.  It means:  a word (meaning consecutive letters or numbers), followed by some whitespace (space, tabs, etc.), followed by that same word15:58
ToxinPoweAnyone can tell me where is "save session" in the new 11.04?15:58
ibeekmanon my Docked IBM T60 with second monitor The Unity launcher doesn't work15:58
Sidewinder1glda19, Please see above two ^^15:58
Linuxfav<puckipedia>what will that command do?...will it fix it..?15:59
MNichieibeekman: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment, unity has problems15:59
Crazy1kwtm: can you give me an example?15:59
ibeekmanand, while the new scroll bars are awesome, they only work 50% of the time for me15:59
puckipediaLinuxfav:What graphics card do you have?15:59
kwtmCrazy1: So, if your text contained   "This is a frog frog." then the "frog frog" part would match.15:59
Linuxfavterry:I have done the unity support test and it says unity is supported.....my graphics card is>>>02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)15:59
ibeekmanyeah I'm back on classic, still having some issues here and there15:59
kradi have: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick main, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick-security main, what to add more?  i want to install rcconf15:59
Crazy1kwtm: i tried like this 123 123,but it didn't work15:59
oneliner_puckipedia:  failed to replace with & param, param not recognized16:00
Linuxfav<puckipedia>02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)16:00
kwtmCrazy1: If your text contained "This is a bullfrog frog" then it would not match because it takes the entire bullfrog word.16:00
Crazy1kwtm: let me try it16:00
ibeekmanI love this channel because it's always jumpin16:00
oneliner_how can i restart xorg from command line?16:00
muneebStereocaulon_,  whoa!!! that did the trick.. i was struggling for it since morning.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity... thanks a lot16:00
Dr_Willisoneliner_:  sudo service gdm restart16:00
kwtmCrazy1: If you "tried 123 123" then you already know that this is a regular expression.16:00
MNichieIf I wanted to use a mac, I would.  No reason to use a buggy rip off of os x16:00
kwtmCrazy1: In that case, you should ask at #regex or ##regex.16:00
NighthwkCan anyone tell me a good ftp client for ubuntu?16:01
oneliner_Dr_Willis: cheers16:01
MNichieNighthwk: gftp16:01
Dr_WillisNighthwk:  the file manager can do ftp16:01
muneebStereocaulon_, now the min max button also started glowing when i hover!!16:01
ibeekmanNighthwk: I like FileZilla16:01
puckipediaLinuxfav:goto recovery console and type that command, choose nv and if the first dialog after that does not have your cardname, type it in caps, and just press enter after that16:01
Crazy1kwtm: i am learning the   regular expression now16:01
Stereocaulon_muneeb, sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package> works for a lot of packages if you run into troubles with them. That's how I fixed my initially failed upgrade from 10.10. Glad to be able to help you :-)16:01
ibeekmanor you can always use the command line16:02
kwtmCrazy1: It is not related to ubuntu.16:02
Crazy1kwtm: ok..16:02
ibeekmanIs it always this busy in here or is the frenetic pace of conversation due to the recent release of Natty?16:02
kradwhat sources should i have in sources.lst16:02
Stereocaulon_Crazy1, try joining #regex16:02
Crazy1kwtm: i went to #regexask for help16:02
Linuxfav<puckipedia>how to get to the recovery console?16:03
Dr_Willisibeekman:  ive seen it more full in here. :)16:03
compdocalways this busy16:03
* ibeekman waves at all the people16:03
Stereocaulon_I just love freenode, they have a channel for almost any OpenSource project16:03
* ibeekman thinks it is quite loud in here16:03
compdocthis channel is unlike #centos, where they dont like ppl to help each other16:03
muneebStereocaulon_, well i had tried sudo dpkg --configure -a but i didnt help... i learned a new command today dpkg-reconfigure!!16:03
ibeekmangood ol cent16:04
ibeekmanthey have RHEL 6 yet?16:04
compdocno16:04
compdocsoon16:04
SomeDude1234Anyone else having wireless accesspoint-connection issues with WPA after the upgrade to ubuntu 11.10? I can see the ESSID's around but cannot connect to my WPA/PSK encrypted AP16:04
kradwhat sources should i have in sources.lst16:04
ibeekmanRHEL 5 is so old16:04
ibeekmanbut damn is it stable16:04
kradsources.list*16:04
compdocIm switching all my servers to ubuntu - good bye centos16:04
astoryI'm getting 404s from archive.ubuntu.com16:05
lcbcompdoc, nice move16:05
terrykrad: 9.04?16:05
ibeekmanshould i try out KDE? My gnome session and Unity sessions are quite buggy?16:05
jribastory: sudo apt-get update16:05
Stereocaulon_muneeb, I just learned it from a book teaching me LPIC level 116:05
astoryjrib: that's throwing the 404s16:05
tatzenblogdei changed to kde16:05
kradterry, 10.10 now16:05
astoryW: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-updates/universe/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.176 80]16:05
NighthwkCan anyone tell me a good ftp client for ubuntu that has auth tsl16:05
kradterry, and i only have 2 sources ..16:05
compdoclcb, hope it works out for the best16:05
tatzenblogdefilezilla16:06
jribastory: choose a local mirror16:06
ibeekmanon RHEL 5 I used KDE, then I tried KDE on Ubuntu right when 4.0 dropped and ran back to gnome16:06
icerootNighthwk: ftps16:06
terrykrad: You can add soruces via synaptic16:06
Nighthwkthanks16:06
astoryjrib: I'll look for a tutorial, thanks16:06
lcbcompdoc, it depends the servers you install. you might need some nail typing...16:06
tatzenblogdeibeekman why? kde is good integradet in ubuntu (i know only 11.04)16:06
kradterry, im doing this through console16:06
ibeekmanbut I bet it's stable now16:06
jribastory: it was System → Administration → Software Sources at least once in the past16:06
emjRockj, + who ever: apparently x11vnc didn't work since vino-server was already running.16:06
ibeekmanI like the customization options and Dolphin16:07
astoryjrib: I'm configuring a custom ISO so I only have command line16:07
emjworked like a charm16:07
hobbelIs there a way to speed up the unity launcherbar appearance animation? Its to slow for me..16:07
compdocjust rsync, samba, and guests running in qemu-kvm16:07
terrykrad: System -> Adminstration -> Software Sources16:07
* emj leaves 16:07
jribastory: ok, edit /etc/apt/sources.list16:07
ibeekmanbut desktop widgets get on my nerves16:07
Linuxfav<puckipedia>hey i have executed the command in terminal as root...but no dialog16:07
tatzenblogdehobbel, unity 2d or 3d?16:07
jrib!mirrors | astory16:07
ubottuastory: Ubuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Natty, and help keeping the servers' load low!16:07
kradterry, this is a remote server and not my desktop .. no gui .. only command line16:07
ibeekmantoo shiny16:07
hobbeltatzenblogde 3d16:07
onelinerDr_Willis:  the gdm service crashed and burned and rolled in mud till all there was is pain16:07
tatzenblogdehobbel,use the cssm (compiz configuration manager) for the options16:07
SomeDude1234Help: I cannot connect to my Wlan AP (WPA/PSK encrypted) any longer since 11.10 (formerly 10.10). Networkmanager just after a certain timeout of connection trial stops. It worked in 10.10.16:08
hobbeltatzenblogde ah thanks, i hope its in there :)16:08
tatzenblogde:-)16:08
terrykrad: Oh ok. pastebinit /etc/apt/soruces.list  and we'll have a look.16:08
Jonii2hey, I'm using ubuntu studio and I just updated to 11.04.  Now when i boot up, it tells me me hardware isn't up to date enough to use unity, witch is a joke in itself.  Then, it makes sure i don't have a mouse and i can't use the keyboard to get past the error message.  As soon as i boot, it gives me an error message with no way to get out of it.  can anybody help me or is my comp foobared...16:08
Jonii2...yet again?16:08
cmalohello; anyone have issues when upgrading it allows me to login but errors and locks up16:08
Linuxfavupon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?16:08
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Dr_WillisJonii2:  make sure yu got the proper video drivers installed.16:09
kradterry, it only has 2 records: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick main, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick-security main16:09
kaddi hi, i'm trying to revive an old install on a laptop... It was working a week ago, it has issues with the bios battery so I get frequent complaints of mismatching timestamps (not now though). It boots right into recovery console and when I do a startx in there, I get mktemp: failed to create file via template '/tmp/serverauth.XXXXXXXXXXXXXX': read-only file system so it seems to me that i'm looking at a permission issue, however I don't know how to16:09
kaddiresolve it.. any tips?16:09
tatzenblogdeibeekman, i deactivated widgets on my kde... only a folder view :D dolphin is the default filemanager in kubuntu.. i switched 2 days ago16:09
* Mud stabs oneliner in the face16:09
Dr_WillisJonii2:  ive also had issues with some usb things not working Untill i unplug/pluyg them back in16:09
Jonii2Dr_Willis: well the drivers were installed fine just before i upgraded.... now it doesn't matter as i can't get in16:09
Dr_WillisJonii2:  use the console and check.16:09
ibeekmanman no scroll bar in Empathy under 11.0416:09
luisgmarineHello anyone here tried installing ubuntu 11.04 on macbook pro 5,3?  I'm getting a blinking cursor and REEFIT doesn't seem to install16:09
ibeekman(Ubuntu classic)16:09
astoryjrib: that fixed it, thanks :D16:09
Jonii2Dr_Willis: how am i supposed to do that? it never gives me a chance to boot to the console16:09
cmalocan I revert back from 11.04?16:10
ibeekmanand the window docking is all kinds of messed up16:10
compdocdoubtful16:10
compdoccmalo, why do you want to16:10
tatzenblogdeJonii2, switch to therecoeryconsole16:10
kk9822hi16:10
Jonii2Dr_Willis: ok, i'll do that. what do i type in to fix it though? I'm new to linux16:10
tatzenblogdegod damn it - my space-key is ill...16:10
kk9822i need some help i m stuck16:10
cmalocomdoc: I upgraded and now I get to the login; able to login but after that getting erros about Natalus16:10
tatzenblogdekk9822, lets hear :-)16:11
kradterry, what sources do i need to add so that i can install say svn,rcconf etc16:11
kk9822i upgraded 10.10 to 11.04  i m not getting menu but16:11
ibeekmankk9822: have you tride some lubricant?16:11
kk9822it goes to terminal mode16:11
cmalocomdoc: doesn't go anyfurther after that16:11
ibeekmanoooh fun!16:11
Dr_WillisJonii2:  you could unplug/lug the usb things at the login screen and they may start working16:11
kk9822no16:11
Linuxfavupon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?16:11
Jonii2Dr_Willis: alright i'll try that be back in a few16:12
pbandcheezwhizQuestion.  I run a dual monitor setup, and just upgrade to Natty.  I really like the ability to shade windows. Now when windows are screen I am unable to shade windows like I used to.  Is that 'just the way it is' or is there something I can do about that?16:12
Stereocaulon_Is there a nice program available to edit the Gnome2 menu? The Main Menu editor slab is quite awkward to operate16:13
kk9822pl give the web add for downloading laptop ver of ubuntu 11.0416:13
ibeekmantheres no /part command?16:13
mikinanuqLinuxfav: does it hang on boot?16:13
ibeekmanokay later peeps16:13
lcbpbandcheezwhiz, there are some known issues with duals. probably better starting with default drivers and then test again with proprietary ones16:13
cmalowhat about mouse not even working ><16:13
terrykrad: just  a sec16:14
Linuxfav<mikinanuq>after selecting unity....the desktop shows up...but unresponsive16:14
wabznasmAnyone aware of any issue with Transmission icon not showing in systray on 11.04.  Already setcom.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist ['all']16:14
blithi i've installed 11.04. how do i find programs grouped by categories (ex. "games") in the new unity ui? thanks16:14
htcrwn148hey guys does anyone know if i upgrade to the ubuntu11.04 would i lose everything on my pc?16:14
cmaloprob so16:14
bafiliusblit: right click on the plus16:14
santiagohi...16:14
pbandcheezwhizeverything seems to be working correctly using the nvidia 270 driver.  Its just the full screen with the way they went to the Mac style menus on the bar ya know?16:15
kk9822hi16:15
mikinanuqLinuxfav: maybe reset your profile...16:15
VCooliohtcrwn148: depends if you have /home or whatever date on a separate partition; if not, it'll be wiped out16:15
semitones_djzsync from the main mirror didn't work -- are there mirrors that have zsync?16:15
BookmanI just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and now my ATI Xpress200 video card is not working in 3D.  The Additional Drivers does not show anything as being available.16:15
mikinanuqLinuxfav: at least get it back to default16:15
bafiliushtcrwn148: only if the install goes buggy like mine did16:15
wabznasmhtcrwn18: updated from 10.10 to 11.04 yesterday with no real probelms. Just some little bugs16:16
Linuxfav<mikinanuq>but i dont think unity will work without the driver at all16:16
Kevin147htcrwn148: I recommend backing up your stuff, just in case16:16
htcrwn148so i should back up everything...16:16
pbandcheezwhizif windows are not in full screen, i can shade properly.16:16
htcrwn148thanks16:16
Kevin147np16:16
lcbhtcrwn148, no but backup /home first. then ' sudo -i ' and  ' apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get -f install && apt-get check && apt-get autoremove && reboot16:16
blitthanks.16:16
bafiliusalways backup everything16:16
pbandcheezwhizi lived on the edge, didn't backup anything, and upgraded.  no issues really.16:16
mikinanuqLinuxfav: when you install a driver it's system wide, not just your profile.16:16
lcbhtcrwn148, remove those ' sudo 's in the middle16:16
wabznasmhtcrwn148: I just followed Canonical's instructions on ubuntu site and used update manager. No problems, though maybe cli has some benefits16:17
Linuxfav<mikinanuq>in jockey there is a entry for experimental driver...should i install that?16:17
lcbwabznasm, needs to update the system first...16:17
wabznasmlcb: yes, as in instructions on ubuntu main sute16:17
bafiliusthere should be no problems but for me it wouldn't boot after update16:17
blitalso... i've installed 11.04 beta2 10 days ago. should i reinstall the "official" 11.04 or keeping upgrading will suffice?16:18
lcbwabznasm, yes... and fix the system too, just in case16:18
jonii2hey thanks so much Dr_Willis I got in to ubuntu now.16:18
santiagoI have a question, after reading the feed for a few minutes... does everybody like Unity, or what?16:18
lcbblit, it upgrades normally, no need of commands or whatever16:19
jonii2but still, i don't get why it thinks i can't use unity16:19
Kevin147!ot | santiago16:19
ubottusantiago: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:19
wabznasmsantiago: still deciding :)16:19
maxsanieljoin #ubuntu-br16:19
kaddik, my issue was resolved with a fsck... /tmp had a timestamp from october this year and system time was only april this year16:19
jonii2I have the nvidia drivers for my graphics card... and i could run unity without a problem, but ubuntu once again has decided that its smarter than me. any help?16:19
compdocsantiago, I tried to - but never did16:19
zzecoolanybody know why the compiz "place windows" plugin doesn't work with adobe air applications? i set a rule for tweetdeck to always appear in a certain viewport but it always opens in my current viewport. any ideas?16:19
Glycan_Hello.16:19
Glycan_Where is terminal on 11.4?16:20
zzecoolGlycan_,  press windows key and type terminal16:20
terrykrad: lsb_release -a   #Does that say 10.10?16:20
blitlcb: u've misundestood, i was asking if having first  installed the beta will give me problems in the long run16:20
blitGlycan_: control + alt + t16:21
Ubuntu_userHi i just installed a .sh file, from where can i run it? I am new to ubuntu.16:21
Glycan_Thanks.16:21
eksi just tried both dvd and cd for kubuntu and they both give a wall of text while booting from the usb stick (after I select start kubuntu). really a wall of text, whitout even new lines between errors. any ideas why?16:21
mikinanuq Linuxfav I'm not sure about jockey driver.16:21
lcbblit, no. unless you dad major problems in meanwhile. but the updates are processed normally until you get the full system as 11.04 final16:22
lcbblit, dad/had16:22
ibeekmanDoes anybody have any thoughts on resizing an encrypted /home partition?16:22
phoebe212has anyone tried out IOS on Linux? is there any IOU LiveCD based on Ubuntu to tes16:23
Dr_Willisibeekman:  make backups first.16:23
lcbibeekman, i don't use it, but gparted doesn't do it?16:23
bc81i'm reluctant to upgrade to 11.04...the last 3 times i upgraded through the update manager, i ended up having to reinstall completely.16:24
cebrianhi16:24
bc81does anyone have upgrade success stories?16:24
Belial`i did16:24
cebrianim having problems with the freeze of the Unity16:24
lcbbc81, me 216:24
cebrianafter upgrading to 11.0416:24
wabznasmbc81: yeah - 10.10 to 11.04 with minor niggled16:24
wabznasmbc81: yeah - 10.10 to 11.04 with minor niggles16:24
cebriani cant even change to classic16:24
Belial`bc81, mine upgraded ok, but i felt it could have been a bit faster.16:24
jonii2bc81, I'm probably going to end up reinstalling16:24
cebrianany way to do it from console16:24
cebrian?16:24
HRTHi, please someone helps me with installing ATI Radeon HD 5470 on Ubuntu 11.04? I can't install it properly16:24
lcbbc81, some issues with graphics but in time would be resolved16:24
quellhorstwhat app lets me change the kernel i boot up with? i jsut added a kvm kernel but its defaulting to boot the old kernel16:25
jonii2Why is ubuntu telling me that my hardware isn't good enough to use unity, even when i have great specs and graphics drivers installed?p16:25
blitlcb: so (having just upgraded packages) i'm the same of a new install, right?16:25
jonii2I know i can run it, but ubuntu has decided its smarter than me yet again16:25
lcbquellhorst, SHIFT before grub loads16:25
compdocbc81, I upgraded a couple of systems from 10.10 to 11.04 beta 1 and beta 2 without issues, but they were fresh installs of 10.0116:25
compdoc10.1016:25
bc81ok, thanks for the feedback, folks.  i'll probably just reinstall from cd, to avoid the pitfalls16:25
bisonquestion: why is it that i can't view the video in full screen in firefox under ubuntu 10.1016:26
MadRobot_Hi all16:26
quellhorstlcb: the delay is too short, my monitor goes into power save mode.16:26
Ubuntu_userHi i just installed a .sh file, from where can i run it? I am new to ubuntu.16:26
terrybison: Prbably need flashplugin upgrade16:26
lcbblit, yes, that's how i'm running now. dist-upgrade or the commands used before don't work, as you can see. i mean they work but don't produce anything, saying the system is up-to-date16:26
arand_Ubuntu_user: "Installed" How?16:26
HRTHi, please someone helps me with installing ATI Radeon HD 5470 on Ubuntu 11.04? I can't install it properly16:26
wabznasmUbuntu_user: from the directory it's downloaded to. 'sh <filename>'16:26
openbeeshi buddy ...i got a problem with my compiz effects ...whenver i am selecting compiz as my window maneger the top most bar (including min,max,close) button disapears...everything is finr with metacity except there is no effects)16:26
MadRobot_Is it normal for the new Ubuntu 11.04 to take a long time to install on my USB stick?16:26
onelinerhow can i "restore" all unity/compiz settings to installation defaults?16:26
htcrwn148i know this is not a smart question, but to back up everything on my pc... do i just copy all the files to my external HD or is there a function available or how do i do it?16:27
phoebe212!beta16:27
ubottuIf you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.16:27
wabznasmopenbees: me too - logout and back in when it happens. Only seems to be when changing some compiz settings16:27
bisonterry: i can play the video though16:27
R3dyTrying to install JTR with 64bit support on 11.04 and getting an error on openssl/sha.h "file not found"16:27
coz_MadRobot_, other than usb being painfully slow compared to cd16:27
ThomasB2kI am running Ubuntu Maverick and I'm about to upgrade to 11.04. When I installed 10.10, I decided to set up a separate partition for my /home directory. Will this present any problems during installation?16:27
arand_oneliner: I think you can use "unity --restore"16:27
kkalUbuntu classic saved my day16:27
R3dycan't seam to figure out what libary I need to install16:27
Ubuntu_userarand_:  I used chmod +x /path then ./file.sh16:27
lcbquellhorst, but you get the screen with kernels or not?16:27
terrybison: http://trryhend.startlogic.com/16:27
onelinerarand thisnak i ll try16:27
MadRobot_coz_, is really slower than a CD?16:27
quellhorstlcb: ok, got the screen with kernels, but i don't see the kvm kernel.16:27
cebriankkal: how can i use ubuntu classic16:28
lcbquellhorst, right after SHIT and when the options are present press one of arrow keys or something16:28
arand_Ubuntu_user: It did not work?16:28
coz_R3dy,   google  ubuntu  openssl/sha.h "file not found"16:28
onelinerarand_:  no such option16:28
openbeeswabznasm:everthing was good with 10.04 ...problem occurs between path 10.04->10.10->11.0416:28
lcbshit/SHIFT.. oopsy16:28
coz_MadRobot_,  yes it is much slower,,,16:28
kkalcebrian: logout and choose ubuntu classic from the toolbar below before loging in16:28
coz_MadRobot_, unless you have usb316:28
HRTfolks. no one's going to help me here?16:28
wabznasmopenbees: I have this problem on 11.04. It's a bug, but can be worked aorund16:28
MadRobot_coz_, that's weird. :/16:28
arand_oneliner: If that is the error message, probably the script is faulty, where is the script from?16:28
MadRobot_coz_, I see.16:28
lcbquellhorst, select recovery and besides doing the DPKG option do GRUB option too16:29
cebriani cant16:29
jonii2Why won't linux let me use unity? its telling me my hardware isn't good enough when its sooooo more than good enough.16:29
onelinerits unity?16:29
cebrianthe system freezes16:29
coz_HRT,   i am not skilled at all with ati issues  ,, did you try the #radeon  channel ...yes?16:29
cebrianwhenver a graphical window appears16:29
lcbquellhorst, on the second choice on top, current kernel16:29
ojiifor some reason the interface language in my login screen is in japanese, but after I login everything is in English (as it should be), how can I change/fix the language in my login screen?16:29
phoebe212!ubuntu+1 | HRT16:29
ubottuHRT: Natty Narwhal is the codename for Ubuntu 11.04 - Natty has been released! - Support in #ubuntu16:29
cebrianive been able to just login into console16:29
openbeeswabznasm :  :(:( anyone here planning to fix this bug !!!16:29
quellhorstlcb: ok, doing recovery now16:29
Ubuntu_userarand_:  It 's final instruction was "running the installer wizard"16:29
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IdleOnephoebe212: this is the correct channel after +1 dev branch is released.16:30
kkalcebrian: hrm... so you arent able to run X?16:30
arand_jonii2: Have you installed extra video drivers (ati/nvidia)?16:30
DosAmpsay, the link to http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent under "Alternative downloads" is a copy-and-paste error, is it? can't find a netbook remix for natty anywhere else16:30
lcbquellhorst, hopefully  corrects that...16:30
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cebriankkal: nope16:30
HRTphoebe212, I'm not going to get anything here?16:30
cebriankkal: it freezes16:30
arand_Ubuntu_user: Where is the script from?16:30
mithridatesis ubuntu natty using gnome 3 now?16:30
R3dycoz_: thx16:30
jonii2arand: yep, i just reinstalled them16:30
quellhorstlcb: well, i can boot in normal, but just wonder whats up with not getting the kvm kernel.16:30
R3dyI was missing libssl-dev16:30
IdleOnemithridates: no16:30
kkalcebrian: are you using an nvidia graphics card by any chance?16:30
Ubuntu_userarand_:  it is the installer for netbeans16:31
jonii2arand: ima restart here and see if it helps.... brb16:31
R3dyI was searching for openssl and that's why I didn't find it16:31
DosAmpmithridates: no, it's still gnome 2.32 with unity interface16:31
R3dywith apt-cache16:31
cebrianno, I think they are ATI16:31
coz_R3dy, that search should probably yeild some solution16:31
phoebe212!patience | HRT16:31
ubottuHRT: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/16:31
cebrianis an HP notebook elite 6930p16:31
R3dyIt did16:31
ddaygoldso, i want to change the login screen in ubuntu 10.10, is this possible?16:31
R3dythank y ou16:31
mithridatesis Natty stable enough to install? the last time I had lots of problems with ubuntu-desktop + unity + nvidia16:31
lcbquellhorst, you might need to reinstall it or.. try the sudo dpkg-reconfigure package16:32
openbeeswabznasm : so should i sacrifice my love for compiz effects just becoz ubuntu 11.0416:32
DosAmpunity runs fine on my nvidia card with nouveau + experimental gallium3d acceleration :)16:32
twig111I need help downloading 11.04. Will someone please look at this output from zsync  http://paste.ubuntu.com/601356/ and tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'm on a limited-bandwidth connection and I can't afford to download the whole image when I already have the beta. Thanks for any help.16:32
cebriankkal: it is strange because when i start in failmode the console is a graphical one not a text one16:32
wabznasmopenbees: just set it up how you want, logout, and login and your panel should be okay. Works for me16:32
Ubuntu_userarand_:  what do you think i should do now?16:32
hypetechmithridates: it's stable on my nvidia16:32
cebrianbut the login window does not work16:32
mithridateshypetech: did you upgrade from maverick?16:32
onelinerok heads up! for people having misbehaving or haiwire unity / compiz display issues: unity --reset16:33
lcbcebrian, did you let the system upgrade or interrupted at some point?16:33
DosAmptwig111: the file is named "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso". without the "beta2".16:33
mithridateshypetech: are you happy with what you got in Natty?16:33
SomeDude1234Since ubuntu 11.10 I have errors when I plug my USB wlan adapter and cannot connect to any of the access points (but they show up in the network-manger). Please see the dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/etdZ8Awn16:33
hypetechmithridates: do I did a fresh instally, but yes I'm very happy with natty16:33
hypetechmithridates: I'm on of the few that actually likes unity :\16:33
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arand_Ubuntu_user: If you do not specifically need 7.0, install the 6.9 version (or earlier if you aren't running 11.04) from the ubuntu software centre.16:34
openbeeswabznasm : my problem is not with main ubuntu desktop panel ...it is with windows ...like any aaplication , terminal , any ,file ..16:34
cebrianyes16:34
kkalhypetech: you take that back!16:34
jonii2ok so i reinstalled my graphics drivers and now ubuntu isn't even giving me errors OR a choice, it just sends me to ubuntu classic. I REALLY WANT UNITY lol16:34
cebrianlcb: yes16:34
hypetechkkal: lol16:34
cebrianlcb: i was forced to abort it16:34
lcbcebrian, try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a '16:34
mithridateskkal: don't you like unity?16:34
tensai_cirnohello, i have nasty glitch in gtk, that's ok? http://ompldr.org/vOGhwZQ/2011-04-30-193239_1280x800_scrot.png16:34
lcbcebrian, try what i wrote16:34
tensai_cirnointel hd graphics16:34
speedrunnerG55v2Hi16:34
cebrianlcb: ok, trying16:34
blackyhello...16:34
mithridatesI guess MAC users like it16:34
santiagoRegarding Unity vs Gnome, what I really miss is the fact that I use to customize my bars, add little apps to them, locate them where I wanted, change the size, width, color, font, etc16:34
lcbcebrian, you should tell us that on first place :p16:34
santiagowhile unity seems to be very rigid16:35
blackymy ubuntu 11.04 is booting using xvesa...16:35
Ubuntu_useri am of 11.04 and want 7.0 as it has less bugs and better pgp support16:35
kkalmithridates: nope. ubuntu classic saved the day for me16:35
ddaygoldso, i want to change the login screen in ubuntu 10.10, is this possible?16:35
Ubuntu_userpgp/php16:35
hypetechmithridates: the keyboard shortcuts are what make it great16:35
jonii2arand_: I reinstalled drivers but it won't even let me try unity now, it just sends me straight to classic :(16:35
cebrianlcb: sorry ;)16:35
blackyany help to select openchrome would be greatly appreciated16:35
hypetechddaygold: get "ubuntu-tweak" and you can change the background on the loging page16:35
cebrianlcb: ive just done that and no message in the console16:35
DosAmpjonii2: you can choose ubuntu (unity) or ubuntu classic at the bottom of the login screen. you need 3d acceleration drivers for unity.16:35
cebrianill try to reboot now16:35
lcbcebrian, because ppl assumes everything went well while upgrading.16:35
DosAmpoh16:35
mithridatesI don't think that I like it, I prefer terminal to unity16:35
Ubuntu_userarand_: i am of 11.04 and want 7.0 as it has less bugs and better php support16:36
ddaygoldty16:36
lcbcebrian, look at me.... hold on, i need to type a couple things...16:36
blackyhi... my 11.04 is using xvesa... any way to make it detect the card correctly? please?16:36
jonii2DosAmp: I have an NVIDIA GTS 250 with the drivers on my computer.  I can run any game i choose with max settings, so hardware isn't an issue. I'll try logging out and back in, but last time i check, Ubuntu (unity) wasn't even on the list16:36
kkalmithridates: I would've been fine with unity if they hadnt broken Alt+F2.16:36
cebrianlcb, no luck :(16:36
cebrianlcb, ill hold on16:36
mithridateskkal: what have they done to Alt+F2 ? :o16:36
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PalinBachman2012you can get that back, i think16:37
DosAmpkkal: what's broken with alt+f2? it looks like the app dialog, but it's actually a launcher16:37
twig111I need help downloading 11.04 using zsync. Can someone look at this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/601356/ and see what I'm doing wrong? Thanks!16:37
DosAmpe.g. i can type "gconf-editor" even though it's not under applications16:37
glda19who can help me with my debug16:37
Ubuntu_userarand_:  it never proceeds the starting installer wizard16:37
lcbcebrian, press SHIFT after bios messages and before grub loading. Select the second option on the top (recovery), Select DPKG option, then, GRUB option, then failsafeX option. Selet on there to fix X and then default configuration and CANCEL, and restart X.16:37
jonii2DosAmp: just as i thought, ubuntu refused to give the option of booting to unity16:37
kkalmithridates: DosAmp: various things. it wont complain if you've entered something non-existing. it doesnt autocomplete16:38
glda19who can help me with my debug http://fpaste.org/5gAb/16:38
DosAmptwig111: look at my answer above. drop the "beta2" part.16:38
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Vessagohttp://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD16:38
mithridateskkal: that's obscene , jk16:38
DosAmpit won't work with the final zsync16:38
jonii2DosAmp:  Ubuntu, Ubuntu (classic) ubuntu safe mode, theres a lot of options but not unity16:38
lcbcebrian, write that down and try to see if fixes your upgrading16:38
cebrianlcb, ok16:39
arand_Ubuntu_user: It works fine for me: "chmod +x ./netbeans-7.0-ml-linux.sh" "./netbeans-7.0-ml-linux.sh"16:39
cebrianlcb, going firts for the dpkg16:39
lcbcebrian, reboot when you get the login screen16:39
PalinBachman2012jonii2: Ubuntu IS unity16:39
PalinBachman2012Ubuntu Classic is the old style16:39
kkalmithridates: plus it laggy16:39
jonii2PalinBachman2012: lol not in this case, its sending me back to the old style if i pick just ubuntu16:39
jonii2unless unity looks EXACTLY like old ubuntu without compiz16:39
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Ubuntu_userarand_:  i had just renamed the file to nb.sh16:39
lcbcebrian, do CLEAN too on there. On DPKG check if no errors updating16:40
PalinBachman2012jonii2: have you tried installing compiz settings, and enabling unity there16:40
lcbcebrian, if so..  try again. means the connection was not established or slow mirrors16:40
jonii2PalinBachman2012: I'll try that i guess16:40
raven_jhead how to display only the exif time?16:40
Guest68448Hello. I have an mp4 player. I cannot find my mp3/mp4 files once I've transferred them from my laptop to my mp4 player. What am I missing?16:41
cebrianlcb, just hold on16:41
cebrianlcb, trying16:41
PalinBachman2012jonii2: ussually if unity is not your default desktop, then the system thinks your card cannot handle accelleration16:41
twig111DosAmp: Did you look closely at what I posted? I have the correct url. I'm using the beta2 iso for the seed file. You can see in the output that zsync marks it at 71.2% complete. I believe my syntax is correct. Please explain if I am missing something.16:41
PalinBachman2012so it disables it16:41
PalinBachman2012zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync in the dir with the old file just worked for me16:42
jonii2PalinBachman2012: how do i enable unity from the compiz settings?16:42
njbairso banshee is converting my tracks to .wav when I copy them to my iPod... can I make it use MP3 instead?16:43
PalinBachman2012jonii2: you click the box next to unity16:43
jonii2PalinBachman2012: I know but i can't find unity on here'16:43
coz_njbair,  wow mm  i dont banshee at all,, so I cant help with this issue,, have you asked the banshee people or googled this ..yes?16:43
Guest68448Hello. I have an mp4 player. I cannot find my mp3/mp4 files once I've transferred them from my laptop to my mp4 player. However, I can see the files, just not the contents. What am I missing?16:43
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patternhow do i get a list of services that i've added via update-rc.d ?16:43
jonii2PalinBachman2012: and when i search it comes back with nothing16:44
njbaircoz_: since banshee is now the default in 11.04 I figured I'd ask in here.16:44
njbairbut google was no help16:44
Ubuntu_userarand_:  check this image http://img806.imageshack.us/i/screenshotqeg.png/16:44
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coz_njbair,  yes that makes sense,, i would still either or both goodle this and ask the banshee people,, you would get a better response that way16:44
arand_raven_: I would use jhead in conjunction with grep16:45
coz_njbair, rather "google"16:45
raven_arand_, ok16:45
kkalGuest68448: can you mount the mp4 player as a mass storage device?16:45
htcrwn148for backup purpose does the Home/user directory have everything that i have installed (files folders programs?)16:45
cebrianlcb, i have no connectivity16:45
cebrianlcb, no network16:45
kkalGuest68448: what do you mean by seeing the files but not the contents?16:45
Guest68448kkal: is shows up on my desktop as a 7.8 GB Filesystem16:46
zatanhi, why I cant make chrome default my webrowser on 11.04? Its set default, but than I am trying to website from xchat its oppening with firefox16:46
arand_Ubuntu_user: Hmm, maybe you need to be in the same directory as the .sh file?16:46
lcbcebrian, if that doesn't fix and since yu broke/stopped the upgrading process i would use a live cd, backup (compress with nautilus option and copy to other media) /home (you might want to backup /etc and /usr too ) and better of fresh install 11.04. NOTICE that is what i would do.16:46
PalinBachman2012jonii2: you installed compizconfig-settings-manager and Ubuntu Unity Plugin is not in the Desktop settings? If so, I would think maybe you are not upgraded properly16:46
kkalGuest68448: can you open it and see the contents?16:46
snowrichardgot the 11.04 upgrade done ... new desktop takes a bit of getting used to16:46
tensorpuddinghtcrwn148: it'll have everything you added except programs, for the most part16:46
cebrianlcb, ok16:46
cebrianlcb ill do that16:46
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quellhorstwhat kernel should i install to run kvm?16:46
cebrianlcb thanks16:46
lcbcebrian, better, really16:46
Guest68448kkal: I see the folders but not the mp3/mp4/avi, or whatever16:46
kkalsnowrichard: at it takes a bit more time for you to want to rip your eyes out16:46
Ubuntu_userarand_:  so what i need to do for that, thanks for ur time16:47
htcrwn148tensorpudding: what about wine programs?16:47
lcbcebrian, upgrades must not be interrupted. if so damages the system16:47
tensorpuddinghtcrwn148: wine programs are installed under the user's directory16:47
terrylmX screen goes gray, mouse still works, every thing apparently still works, just can not be see except the mouse cursor.  Ideas?16:47
arand_Ubuntu_user: Hmm, doesn't seem so though...16:47
jonii2PalinBachman2012: yep i installed that and i can't find unity, but i know i upgraded.... the first time i booted it told me my hardware wasn't good enough to run unity and wouldn't let me close the error box...16:47
htcrwn148tensorpudding: but those would be backed up?16:47
Guest68448kkal: I don't have this problem on Windoze so I suspect I am simply missing a file16:47
Ubuntu_userarand_:  pardon me, didn't get you16:47
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tensorpuddinghtcrwn148: everything under the user's home directory is backed up, including the wine programs16:48
jonii2PalinBachman2012: hang on.... i found it in ubuntu software center so i'm installing it through there16:48
PalinBachman2012jonii2: what video card do you have, and does the 'restricted drivers' thinggee show up16:48
arand_Ubuntu_user: working dir doesn't seem to matter: http://imagebin.org/15100316:48
ThomasB2kI am running Ubuntu Maverick and I'm about to upgrade to 11.04. When I  installed 10.10, I decided to set up a separate partition for my /home  directory. Will Ubuntu automatically detect my separate /home partition  and use it in Natty?16:48
kkalGuest68448: tried pasting the mp4 files directly into a folder on the mp4 player that looks like "music/audio" ?16:48
tensorpuddinghtcrwn148: unless your backup software has explicit exceptions16:48
tensorpuddingThomasUK: no16:48
phoebe212!kvm | quellhorst16:49
ubottuquellhorst: kvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM16:49
jonii2PalinBachman2012: I have the Nvidia GTS 250 1GB and yes, restricted drivers shows up, works, and i have the drivers and the nvidia control panel.  games work great, but this doesn't.16:49
Ubuntu_userarand_:  its working fine on yours16:49
PalinBachman2012jonii2: then you should be good to go, once you get unity installed16:49
htcrwn148tensorpudding: ill try backing up manually and with simple backup...16:49
jonii2PalinBachman2012: hang on16:49
tensorpuddingThomasUK: what you must do, when you get to the partitioning step, is find your /home partition and tell the installer to NOT format it, and to mount it at /home16:49
jonii2PalinBachman2012: I SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol16:49
plustaxIs anyone else experiencing lag in 11.04? It takes a little longer to open programs, and also facebook navigating through pictures seems like it takes forever.16:49
Sledgeis anyone else having problems with java and flash, not working after the update to 11.0416:49
Guest68448kkal: I had the same problem under a different distro. Help told me I was simply missing a file but I cannot even remember the name of it. It was something about compatibility or codecs or something16:49
jonii2PalinBachman2012: thanks dude, your the only person so far who hasn't told me to fix everything by opening the console, im gonna relog and see if it works now16:50
twig111PalinBachman2012: I don't know if you were replying to me awhile ago on the zsync download issue or not, but here's what's happening now. http://paste.ubuntu.com/601371/16:50
arand_Ubuntu_user: Yea, I don't know what the difference is though, I am running Debian, here... I'll check if it's an Ubuntu thing...16:50
twig111Does this tell you anything? Is the server just too busy?16:50
Ubuntu_userarand_:  there's some hitch that we are not able to pick. It didn't even asked for my password16:50
quellhorstphoebe212: i read that but still need help on the kernel.16:50
Guest68448kkal: the mp4 player's software is android16:50
romno0xwhen i use -X in ssh actually what happen then?16:50
noodyHi16:51
ThomasB2kthank you tensorpudding, although you didn't highlight me correctly. Thanks for the help.16:51
Ubuntu_userany body on irc getting to point please16:51
romno0xno answer?16:51
openbeesunity panel and application launcher disappear ...from default ubuntu session16:52
PalinBachman2012twig111: your HD might be full, or else, the ubuntu servers might be getting hammered and the connection is being interupted16:52
djazzwhy does ubuntu's default bluetooth applet never work? :|16:52
openbeesany idea how to fix16:52
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romno0xromno0x: ..16:52
sudiptahey guys...after much furore...finally able to use unity...with free mesa driver16:52
PalinBachman2012twig111: they might be moving some DNS stuff around, but IDK16:52
romno0xhow can i install my ssh server?16:53
arand_Ubuntu_user: Well, it works for me on natty as well...16:53
PalinBachman2012twig111: i had some probs installing from aptitude that were related to dns and/or wrong moved ips16:53
jonii2PalinBachman2012: thanks so much... unity works, almost. 2 issues, and one might not be an issue. First, ITS BLINDINGLY WHITE!!!! where can i go to change it back to my old theme?16:53
Ubuntu_userarand_:  ahhh so can you figure out what could be the problem16:53
tensorpuddingromno0x: search for openssh-server in the software center, when installed it will be started automatically, and you're good to go16:53
hypetechromno0x: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"16:53
PalinBachman2012jonii2: its white? its supposed to be a dark theme, iirc16:53
arand_Ubuntu_user: Maybe you want to try re-downloading, make sure it's the right version, etc..16:54
PalinBachman2012jonii2: i guess in your appearance settings16:54
terrylmX, screen goes gray, mouse still works, every thing apparently still works, just can not be see except the mouse cursor.  Ideas?16:54
tensorpuddingjonii2: blindingly white? it should look the same as always16:54
Ubuntu_userarand_:  I tried both the installers one from netbens.org and other from oracle.com bundled with jdk16:54
kkalGuest68448: you would be missing a package if you're talking about missing codecs. Although I dont see how missing a codec will prevent you from transfering files to the player16:54
Guest68448kkal: could it be due to me missing ffmpeg?16:54
KillaloTjonii2, you can right click on your desktop, click change background .. then there's a tab called "themes" ... you should be able to change to a darker theme16:54
twig111PalinBachman2012: I've tried it probably a dozen times since day before yesterday. Do you know anything I could do to troubleshoot, or do I just have to wait until the traffic subsides on the servers.16:54
arand_Ubuntu_user: This the one I used: http://netbeans.org/downloads/start.html?platform=linux&lang=en&option=all16:54
KillaloTjonii2, but default theme should be rather dark :))16:54
jonii2PalinBachman2012: tensorpudding: yeah thats what i thought... but i'm really confused cause i can't find my appearance settings16:54
Sledgejonii216:54
Guest68448kkal: I'm just installing ffmpeg now16:55
Ubuntu_userarand_: i do have it16:55
serverfelSo what do you guys think of 11.04?16:55
tensorpuddingjonii2: just search for it under the applications dash16:55
PalinBachman2012jonii2: you have to press the win key and start typing the name16:55
Sledgethere you go16:55
noodyHi16:55
noodyGg16:55
noodyHf16:55
noodyTdf16:55
noodyHi16:55
FloodBot3noody: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:55
arand_Ubuntu_user: Right, well then I don't know why it doesn't work for you..16:55
jonii2ok well the bar at the top is still white, and so is chatzilla... but it has a dark theme :(16:55
romno0xhypetech: and what does exactly -X do when I use it in SSH command line?16:55
jonii2and i can't move the appearance window around16:55
ThanatosWhat is the terminal command for exiting X to load drivers?16:55
Ubuntu_userarand_:  thanks for your time16:55
hypetechromno0x: it allows X11 forwarding, but I'm not sure of the proper use16:55
Ubuntu_userI try through forums too16:56
SledgeYeah i don't really care for the new GUI ive had some serious issues with getting used to it also16:56
romno0xhypetech: what does it do X11 forwarding? i mean what is it?16:56
Soupermanhello, what can i use to stream to an icecast2 server whitout having to use JACK?16:56
VCoolioThanatos: sudo service gdm stop16:56
ubuntujust installed 11.04 and now i cannot get i to the system. I am currently using the live session from my install usb. please help16:56
PalinBachman2012I didnt like Unity at firest, but now i like it, once i added some nice hotcorners16:56
HouseMDromno0x: you run an app on a remote host and you get its display (i.e. window) in your host16:56
Crazy1did anyone know de channel of Regular-Expressions??16:57
noodyJi16:57
greylurk_any instructions on how to install Oracle JDK in Natty?16:57
tensorpuddingromno0x: X11 forwarding means that if you start an X11 application inside the remote shell, the display is forwarded to your host, so you can use those applications remotely16:57
KillaloTUnity in netbook release of 10.10 was  shit, but i begin to like it in 11.0416:57
jw_When installing 11.04 on a RAID, where should boot loader be installed?? Dev mapper win7 partition or dev/SDA ?16:57
icerootCrazy1: #regex16:57
xangua!java | greylurk_16:57
ubottugreylurk_: To install a Java runtime on Ubuntu on 10.04 LTS and newer, see http://tinyurl.com/2ffg7cc -  For the Sun Java products and browser plugin, search for the sun-java6- packages in the !partner repository on Lucid (which must be enabled), or !multiverse repository on older releases.16:57
SledgePalinBachman2012,  oh is this UNITY?16:57
SledgePalinBachman2012,  i heard alot about it.16:57
IdleOne!language | KillaloT16:57
ubottuKillaloT: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.16:57
SledgePalinBachman2012, didn't even realise thats what happen when i upgarded. lol16:57
noodyGh16:57
noodyH16:57
Crazy1iceroot: THANKYOU16:57
noodyJ16:57
KillaloT:(16:58
rumpe1Crazy1, /msg alis list *regex*   (if you plan to search for channels in the future)16:58
noodyHi16:58
Soupermanoh... wait... darkice is working D:16:58
Guest68448kkal: it hasn't made a difference. I can see the files within the folders through Ubuntu but when I try to run them with the mp4 player is see only folders without content.16:58
jonii2WOW ok so my theme only half works, most thinks are a terrible shade of grayish white. and if i unmaximize windows, i can't move them16:58
jw_When installing 11.04 on a RAID, where should boot loader be installed?? Dev mapper win7 partition or dev/SDA ?16:58
icerootCrazy1: you can use regex on /msg alist list :)16:58
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tensorpuddingjonii2: can we see a screenshot of what's wrong16:58
greylurk_xangua - those only seem to cover maverick and lucid.16:58
jonii2tensorpudding: sure hang on16:59
serverfelI tried 11.04 on two computers, and im not to pleased. Think Unity is kinda lame, but i guess it needs getting used to. Looking foward to trying Gnome 3 instead.16:59
sosaitedWhat is the most active video conversion/transcoding related channel for Linux/Ubuntu?16:59
djazzblueman doesnt work either? :|16:59
BlouBloudjazz: works perfectly16:59
phoebe212sosaited: #mythbuntu?16:59
jw_anyone know?17:00
compdocis there a simple way to help a user remotely using vnc? can they share their desktop?17:00
djazzBlouBlou: i have two adapters, and neither works17:00
sosaitedphoebe212, Isn't that sort of specific to mythbuntu and not general video related channel17:00
hypetechcompdoc: teamviewer is the simplist way17:00
Sledgeflash games or HULU not working17:00
jonii2ok well i'm uploding the picture but its gonna look funny cause i have to screens17:00
Sledgeafter upgrade17:00
djazzmaybe I need reboot?17:01
rumpe1Sledge, already installed flashplugin-nonfree?17:01
njbairupdate: in case anyone asks, it looks like the upgrade to 11.04 uninstalled ubuntu-restricted-extras. I had to reinstall it manually in order to encode to MP3 instead of WAV in Banshee.17:01
Sledgerumpe1,  i went to synaptec and it says its already installed..17:01
Sledgerumpe1,  well it says flash is already installed17:01
mikinanuqjw_: /dev/sda is the more logical location.. the BIOS looks at the first ### blocks (don't know exactly) of the boot drive.. not in the first partition17:01
greylurk_anyone know of a PPA thtat includes Eclipse 3.6.2?17:01
jonii2tensorpudding: do you have teamviewer? my picture doesn't want to upload lol17:01
tensorpuddingno17:02
sebikulHi to everyone!. When upgrading to natty today (having already installed all drivers, etc.),  after the plymouth screen disappears , I am left with a screen with the nvidia logo, the PC is locked there,  it doesn't load any further, and I must restart by pressing Alt + Sys + B. I have a video card Nvidia GForce GT220 PCI  and onboard Geforce 6150 LE, but not being used.17:02
jonii2oh i think it worked17:02
rndmok. i am trying to override policykit so that i can install updates without having to type my password but it doesn't seem to want to give in. What am I doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601378/17:02
scorch2whats goin down in ds mother trucker?17:02
jonii2http://img171.imageshack.us/i/badcolors.png/17:02
sebikulThe only thing I could get from the logs is this  (http://paste.ubuntu.com/601117). Note that this only happens when using the proprietary driver. When using nouveau I can use ubuntu without a problem, same as when using a failsafe boot17:02
tensorpuddingoh, that's what i got for a moment17:02
xangua!language | scorch17:02
ubottuscorch: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.17:03
jw_I ask only because it failed to install it to sda then asked where I would like to install it.17:03
Ubuntu_userarand_:  okay is there any sudo apt-get for netbeans 7.017:03
Sledgerumpe1 , just installed it now.. should i reboot?17:03
axisysis there a ppa for google chromium?17:03
jonii2thats what my desktop looks like, its weird though because i have 2 monitors17:03
Chrom_hi all. anyone noticed that in Natty, using the classical gnome, you can't drag items into the trash applet? The items are added to the panel instead of being trashed.. :)17:03
ubuntuhello anyone there17:03
axisysis there a ppa for google chrome rather?17:03
arand_Ubuntu_user: No, only 6.917:03
xanguaaxisys: chromium is already in the repository17:03
Ubuntu_useraarrrgghh17:03
tensorpuddingjonii2: that happened to me randomly, i changed the theme back and logged out and logged back in and it looked fine17:03
axisysxangua: oh ok17:03
scorch2so17:03
jonii2tensorpudding: alright i'll try that17:03
rumpe1Sledge, usually reboots are only necessary after deep system updates... i would recommend you try it with google chrome, which has a own flash builtin17:03
tensorpuddingjonii2: also how did you get the launcher on the right?17:03
Sledgerumpe1 just did, didnt work.17:04
plastichi all!17:04
axisysxangua: i see.. i was looking for google chrome which is based on chromium17:04
scorch2xangu there was nothing wrong with what i said17:04
mikinanuqjw_: how many drives in the RAID? what RAID system are you using?17:04
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xanguaaxisys: download it from google chrome's web17:04
rumpe1Sledge, ok. Next step i would recommend is starting browser by terminal and check for error-messages / warnings17:04
xangua...17:04
Barridusdoes gwibber... uh... work?17:04
jw_RAID 0 2 drives17:05
PalinBachman2012Barridus: its not the prettiest, but it works for me17:05
jw_I partitioned off space for Ubuntu the rest is Win717:05
trijntjeHow can I enable middle click emulation in natty?17:05
axisysxangua: will it autoupdate like ppa does ?17:05
azozهااااي17:05
PalinBachman2012Barridus: to see it you need to click on the mail envelope, and then on notifications17:05
mikinanuqjw_: it's been a long time since I've used RAID but usually putting the OS on a mirror of two drives and the data on a stripe with parity worked fine. Now with drives getting so big I hear striped with parity is not that great.17:05
zzecoolBarridus,  try to install adobe air and after that tweeterdeck17:05
Sledgerumpe1, (firefox-bin:2658): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_shortcut: assertion `gtk_accelerator_valid(key, modifier)' failed17:05
zzecoolit rocks for tweeter17:05
rumpe1Sledge, otherwise... well... maybe delete flash-profile? ($HOME/.adobe/...) reinstall flashplugin?17:05
zzecoolmaybe the best :P17:05
azozاحد يتكلم عربي17:05
tensorpudding!arabic | azoz17:06
ubottuazoz: For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية17:06
greylurk_axisys in 10.10 it has... I haven't tested in 11.0417:06
xanguaaxisys: i supose it adds google's repository, never used it17:06
PresuntoRJ!farsi | azoz17:06
ubottuazoz: #ubuntu-ir baraye Farsi zabanan mibashad ke channele rasmie goroohe Iran-ie ubuntu ast. #ubuntu-ir  برای فارسی زبانان می‌باشد که کانال رسمی گروه ایرانی اوبونتو است.17:06
azozعربي17:06
Barriduszzecool, yeah but i just wanted to see if gwibber worked.  i'm getting no tweets so i guess not?17:06
rumpe1Sledge, doesn't sound like a relevant error17:06
jonii2tensorpudding: ok well its better, but the menu bars have black text on a black bar and i can't change it, and i still can't move windows by draging their bar. is there a new way to do it now?17:06
axisysgreylurk_: it has ppa in 10.10 you mean? do you have the link?17:06
truepurpleSomeone here have experience/knowledge of ATI drivers?17:06
rumpe1Sledge, which ubuntu btw? 64bit?17:06
zzecoolBarridus, didnt try it on natty17:06
zzecooldont rly know17:06
Sledgerumpe1 , yes 64bit17:06
rumpe1Sledge, ati-card?17:06
Guest68448kkal: there is some sort of file I must download through synaptic that let's my laptop communicate properly with my mp4 player. I am sorry I don't know the terminology.17:06
Sledgerumpe1 i think17:06
SledgeNVIDIA17:07
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axisysxangua: ppa or the direct download from google ?17:07
azozعلموني زيكم17:07
Sledgerumpe1 whats that command to see what im running again?17:07
greylurk_axisys the deb on google's site installs the ppa too17:07
azozعطوني وجه17:07
tensorpuddingjonii2: you can't move windows by title bar?17:07
PresuntoRJ!english | azoz17:07
ubottuazoz: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList17:07
Guest68448kkal: I've downloaded and solved the problem in the past, but I just cannot remember the name of it.17:07
jonii2tensorpudding: no nothing happens17:07
axisysgreylurk_: nice! then I should be set17:07
rumpe1Sledge, uname -a , lsb_release -a17:07
sdOk, I installed latest ubuntu and I can't find workspaces - like there is only one workspace. Any ideas?17:07
Chrom_anyone using gnome classic in 11.04? the trash applet is not working (can't drag icons on it)17:07
azozاكتب عربي17:07
jonii2tensorpudding: the buttons work but even if i right click > move it won'd move the windows17:07
sdI use Gnome17:07
PalinBachman2012jonii2: i think you might b e having probs with multiple moniters17:07
zzecoolprolly azoz cant change language input17:08
zzecoollol17:08
azozتكفون علموني17:08
jonii2PalinBachman2012: -.-17:08
Sledgerumpe1 Linux sledge-pc 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux17:08
Ubuntu_userazoz:  what that join #ubuntu-ir17:08
tensorpuddingjonii2: can you move it by holding Alt and dragging?17:08
Sledge64 bit.17:08
greylurk_the more I use unity, the better I like it.17:08
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jonii2tensorpudding: nope17:08
PresuntoRJazoz: what is an Atoni ?17:09
azozhow17:09
sdOk, I installed latest ubuntu and I can't find workspaces - like there is only one workspace. Any ideas?17:09
rumpe1Sledge, yes... but still. Try to reinstall and / or move/delete .adobe-profile directory17:09
zzecoolazoz double click it17:09
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bluefoxicycrap17:09
bluenemoi love the by default choosable wallpapers for ubuntu and want those on my debian boxes as well. where can i find all of them (i dont mean just the default wallpaper but the @ install included pictures as well)17:09
* greylurk_ boggles that sun-java-6 hasn't been renamed to oracle-java-6 yet, and that eclipse 3.4 is still the default install in natty17:09
rumpe1Sledge, if this doesn't work i'm also clueless :/  ... flash is a mess17:09
bluefoxicyI upgraded to 11.04 and I went from 16 virtual desktops to 417:09
bluefoxicywhat the hell?17:09
zzecoolbluefoxicy,17:09
zzecooldo you have compiz settings manager installed?17:10
bluefoxicythis is screwing with my spatial orientation17:10
tensorpuddingbluefoxicy: were you using compiz before?17:10
PalinBachman2012bluefoxicy: install compizsettings and change your number of destops17:10
Sledgerumpe1 ok thanks17:10
bluefoxicytensorpudding:  yeah I was using compiz, now I'm on Unity17:10
cyberkillaIt's just a compiz plugin.17:10
PalinBachman2012is the compizconfig-settings-manager17:10
azozمافيه احد يتكلم عربي17:10
tensorpuddingbluefoxicy: well, unity still uses compiz, so i guess it's a bit freaky that it forgot17:10
hobbsccan someone point me to documentation on installing sun-java under 11.04?17:10
bluefoxicytensorpudding:  oh, EVERYTHING broke on the upgrade17:10
Epiloghi there17:11
scorch2yeah17:11
erealzok is anyone likeing the 11.04 unity desktop?17:11
Sledgeso delete Flash_player DIRECTORY?17:11
EpilogI'm having a lot of problems with two new class 10 sd card17:11
scorch2fo ri"_17:11
bluefoxicyand then I tried installing gnome3 ppa to get Gnome-shell, and had to reinstall ubuntu17:11
scorch2lol17:11
greylurk_ereals It's pretty good, once you get used to it.17:11
Epiloga lot of -110 errors input/output17:11
Epiloganyone knows anything about this?17:11
azozهااااي17:11
bluefoxicytensorpudding:  the stupidest thing was immediately after upgrading (before trying to get gnome-shell), I couldn't open folders17:11
azozولكم17:11
FloodBot3azoz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:11
scorch2crip a dip man17:11
PalinBachman2012that gnome shell ppa will break unity, use jhbbuild17:11
bluefoxicyanything that accessed an inode/directory opened it with vlc17:11
bluefoxicyso if I hit "Home Folder," VLC opened.17:11
bluefoxicyetc17:11
axisysgreylurk_: nice! like you said after installing the google chrome the repository added google download link17:11
bluefoxicyI found in ~/.local/ blahblahblah there was a file that contained "Deleted associations" that had that17:12
bluefoxicyand it used it, even though it was a deleted association17:12
greylurk_axisys no problem.17:12
jonii2hey, ok so i disabled my other monitor and STILL i have black text on a black menu bar and STILL i can't move any windows17:12
scorch2true that17:12
bluefoxicybecause it was "deleted," no interface exposed it to me; I had to find the configuration file and remove the line17:12
bluefoxicy@_@17:12
zzecoolbluefoxicy,  looks like your installation is borged go with a clean install17:12
scorch2cool17:12
PalinBachman2012jonii2: you are using the restricted drivers from nvidia?17:12
Sledgerumpe1 so delete Flash_player DIRECTORY?17:12
scorch2yes17:12
sdahi all! Question, with monitor applet i can see read and write disk usage, can I see it with a terminal command? Thanks!17:12
bluefoxicyzzecool:  clean install wouldn't have fixed that; that was in my /home directory17:13
jonii2PalinBachman2012: yes17:13
bluefoxicyzzecool: so I fixed that, and then did a clean install17:13
PalinBachman2012jonii2: hmm17:13
scorch2its that17:13
Sidewinder1!farsi > azoz17:13
ubottuazoz, please see my private message17:13
coreireHey, I'm trying to reinstall grub after installing windows. I've installed grub to the drive and it says everything went ok, but when I run "update-grub" it responds with "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'."17:13
PalinBachman2012jonii2: you might need to file a bug report...17:13
bluefoxicyzzecool:  and then found ALL MY DATA was gone and -- oh, it mounted /home subvol=@home, the heck is this?  ... modified fstab and got all my files back.17:13
rumpe1Sledge, flash-player-config-directory in your home... or just move it somewhere else17:13
jonii2PalinBachman2012:  ok so its just this theme that is broken, other themes work ok, but still i can't move windows17:13
zzecoolclean install = back up home dir and then formated + install17:13
jonii2PalinBachman2012: ugh17:13
scorch2triping daisys17:13
zzecoolformat it *17:13
bluefoxicyzzecool:  I have 500 gigs in /home, what the hell do I back up to?17:13
PalinBachman2012jonii2: did you upgrade, or do a fresh install?17:13
tensorpuddingjonii2: which theme are you using anyway17:14
jonii2PalinBachman2012: I upgraded17:14
zzecoolan external drive17:14
bluefoxicyzzecool:  it's on a separate partition, as well.17:14
zzecoolcan help you on this17:14
kasperI want to add Evernote and URT to the Unity menu. Somehow I dont see how to do it :( can anyone help ?17:14
zzecooli know17:14
* bluefoxicy doesn't have a $100 external drive17:14
bluefoxicyanyway17:14
scorch2h17:14
jonii2tensorpudding: Well i'm using the Ubuntu studio theme but i can switch to other ones and the text looks ok, but nothing fixes my frozen windows17:14
kkalGuest68448: gnokii?17:14
zzecoolhome partition keep many configurations that can borg aninstallation17:14
PalinBachman2012jonii2: you might try creating a new user, logging out completly, and logging in as him17:14
bluefoxicyI danced around the issue, it works now, other than Unity being not total crap, but not great.17:14
tensorpuddingjonii2: did alt+dragging not move them?17:14
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jonii2tensorpudding: nope that did nothing17:14
jonii2tensorpudding: alt doesn't do anything at all17:15
zzecoolbluefoxicy, i think that you gonna love it in time17:15
zzecool:D17:15
zzecooli did17:15
katsrchey all17:15
tensorpuddingjonii2: does the mouse work?17:15
zzecoollearn the shortcuts17:15
bluefoxicyzzecool:  no, I didn't love it in the 90s and I don't love it now.17:15
greylurk_The only thing I'm not liking about Unity is placing the system preferences under the shutdown icon.17:15
jonii2tensorpudding: yep the mouse works, it works the same with/without alt17:15
zzecool90's ? unity?17:15
Guest68448kkal: can't remember but I'll try it17:15
Sledgerumpe1 how do i liset hidden files and folders17:15
KNUBBIGgreylurk_: so ture17:15
katsrcdo i have to specify: export CFLAGS=“-march=native” in order to get 64bit builds?17:15
KNUBBIGtrue*17:16
kasperIs there some admin for the Unity menu ?17:16
bluefoxicyzzecool: replace the Ubuntu icon in the top left with a black and white Apple icon17:16
tensorpuddingjonii2: that's really weird17:16
bluefoxicyzzecool:  welcome to MacOS617:16
katsrcor is there a configuration some where that already does that?17:16
jonii2tensorpudding: linux is soooo confusing17:16
zzecoolerm17:16
axisysis there a way to put the unity menu on the bottom instead of on the left side?17:16
CleaverIm trying to install teamspeak3 from a run script, after some text, and this dialog comes up promting me to press end, how do i do that? Enter doesnt work, end doesnt, e doesnt. Ect. What do I do?17:16
PalinBachman2012jonii2: it can be when things go wrong, like in an upgrade17:16
bluefoxicywho decided that menus belong at the top of the screen, instead of the top of the window17:16
zzecoolbluefoxicy,  you can still use ubuntu classic17:16
zzecooland have the gnome 2 look17:17
KNUBBIGCleaver: did you download it from the official site? Client or server?17:17
Guest68448kkal: I'm not sure this is the right one but yes it is this sort of program17:17
jonii2PalinBachman2012: i suppose that was a bad idea, to upgrade17:17
CleaverClient, and yes17:17
CleaverIts just me not being able to get any further17:17
Sledgerumpe1 im in /home/name/.adobe17:17
CleaverSimple matter of me not knowing what to press :|17:17
tensorpuddingjonii2: here's a debugging thing, try opening a terminal and doing 'mv ~/.config ~/.config-backup'17:17
tensorpuddingjonii2: then log out and log back in17:17
pr3d4t0rHello.17:17
bluefoxicyzzecool:  I know.  I'm toying with Unity so that when Gnome3 is available and I switch to Gnome shell I can claim I've used Unity extensively.  The initial shock is wayning.  I've toyed with gnome-shell though.17:17
kasperdid anyone have trouble adding shourtcuts to the Unity menu ?17:17
KNUBBIGCleaver: no need to install, just ./ts*****_runscript start (don't remember the exact name)17:17
KNUBBIGCleaver: or was it _startscript? NO idea, sorry :p17:18
tensorpuddingwhat does unity have to do with mac os 6?17:18
scorch2!language xangua17:18
kasperis there a cahnnel for Unity ?17:18
jonii2tensorpudding: ok, relogging17:18
CleaverFile called TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.0-beta36.run17:18
raven_need any codeline for: if filetype = image ending=getfileending then do......17:18
KNUBBIGCleaver: no, you whould have a ts3client_startscript or sth like that17:18
icerootraven_: #bash17:18
KNUBBIGCleaver: just download .tar.gz, extract it and start the starscript with the "start" argument17:19
ubuntucant boot into 11.04, blank screen???17:19
OY1Rwhen booting the laptop stops and poses a grub_ prompt. can anyone help me fix it ?17:19
zzecoolbluefoxicy,  go here http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html and read17:19
zzecoolbluefoxicy,  there is even a way to remove the global menu17:19
zzecoolenough said17:20
jayproridiculous... any computer name i type in the ubuntu 11.04 desktop installation it says the name is already on the network, and i cant proceed17:21
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hypetechjaypro: just continue filling in the fields and it will change17:21
warp_any ideas?17:21
coreireHey, I'm trying to reinstall grub after installing windows. I've installed grub to the drive and it says everything went ok, but when I run "update-grub" it responds with "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'." Anyone know what'd cause that?17:21
djazzhmm, blueman doesnt seem to work with the "new" panel17:22
tensorpuddingoh damn, that was a bad idea17:22
NUSHORI don't like unity at all17:22
wildc4rdafternoon all17:22
tensorpuddingi think having jonii move the .config might prevent him from connecting to irc...17:22
Cleaverthanks :)17:22
jayprolol... okay user error.. thanks hypetech17:22
Odayis there a good query builder that you know of?17:22
ubuntu_cannot boot into 11.04, just blank screen17:22
Odayon Software Center nothing shows up17:23
SledgeDoesanyone have any experience installing flashplayer.SO file17:23
PalinBachman2012tensorpudding: \0/17:23
* Dr_Willis wonders what a Query BUilder does.17:23
KM0201ubuntu_: so how are you here now?17:23
Dr_WillisSledge:  why not use the flash package?17:23
xanguaSledge: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree17:23
KM0201Dr_Willis: why it builds querry's of course. :)17:23
NUSHORThat one17:23
warp_any ideas on how to resume a broken version upgrade process?17:23
Dr_WillisKM0201:  I want one in plaid!17:23
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KM0201Dr_Willis: :)17:23
Sledgexangua this is 64bit17:23
awesomechairswarp_, sudo spkg --reconfigure-a17:24
awesomechairsshould work17:24
NUSHORSledge still works :-P17:24
awesomechairs*dpkg, sorry17:24
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xangua!google flash 64 ppa17:24
ubottuI have no google command, use http://www.google.com/17:24
xanguaSledge: try the 64bit plugin ppa17:24
Guest68448kkal: no, that didn't work. However, in the mp4 player I could finally see the avi file. But, unfortunately I got the message it was an unsupported file. This has something to do with communication between Ubuntu and the mp4 player.17:24
mikinanuqwarp_: why would you want to? if an upgrade craps out I'd reinstall and dump the upgrade17:24
Antilecthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB7jSFeVz1U&feature=player_embedded#at=2017:24
coder2i want to pack all the packages installed in my machine......ubuntu lucid???17:24
Guest51304guys i installed gnome shell 3 now the thing is i can't see the gnome bluetooth icon on the panel how can i bring it back17:24
Dr_Willis!aptoncd | coder217:24
ubottucoder2: APTonCD is a tool with a graphical interface which allows you to create one or more CDs or DVDs with all of the packages you've downloaded via apt-get or aptitude, creating a removable repository that you can use on other computers - See also !offline17:24
Sledgerumpe1,  you still here?17:24
pr3d4t0rQ. Ubuntu Server Dapper Drake - over the last 6 months one of the NICs on the gateway started requiring continuous restarts (modprobe -r).  The gateway has been on-line, non-stop since Jan 2007.  I suspect NIC hardware failure.  Planning to upgrade the server today and replace NIC.  Do you have any suggestions for troubleshooting if NIC is all that's screwy in the machine?17:24
pr3d4t0rThanks in advance.17:25
xangua!gnome3 | Guest5130417:25
ubottuGuest51304: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.17:25
warp_thanks awesomechairs17:25
awesomechairsnp :)17:25
warp_i will try that...\17:25
KNUBBIGGuest51304: you may have to ask on the Gnome IRC, google for it (sorry don't know the exact channel/network, should be irc.gnome.org)17:25
Dr_Willispr3d4t0r:  dapper? i think its time to upgrade.  sounds like HW issues to me also.17:25
coder2Dr_Willis: any other option17:25
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Yeah.17:25
Dr_Williscoder2:  clarify what you want to do exactly17:25
awesomechairswait no, dpkg --configure-a, not reconfigure17:26
awesomechairsmy mistake17:26
yehudahhelp17:26
Dr_Willispr3d4t0r:  given how easy it is to swap out a NIC. :)  in the time to trouble shoot. you could have it done 10 times.17:26
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: There is also another odd behavior:  every Saturday at around 2000 PDT / PST, the server stops.  It isn't always at the same exact time, though, and at and cron look clean.17:26
Omega!question | yehudah17:26
ubottuyehudah: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)17:26
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Heh - indeed.17:26
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: The thing is - the server is at my home in San Francisco and I live in Moscow now :)17:26
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: So I'm cramming that today, before I head back on Wednesday ;)17:27
Acriaxhttp://imgur.com/P47aa <- Does anyone know why I get this light grey theme? For about 10 seconds after I login I have the standard dark theme, but then it switches over to this :(17:27
coder2Dr_Willis: i have 10.04 and want to upgrade to 11.04 or can format my laptop and install it,actually i dont have a good internet connection....so all my installed packages will be lost if i format my drive17:27
Dr_Willispr3d4t0r:  somthing seems logically wrong. :) Your Home is in San Franscido.. but you dont live at home? :)17:27
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Right.  Long story :)17:27
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Or rather, I'm lucky to have two homes :)17:27
axisyswhen I try to run a video in metacafe using google chrome it just says missing link.. anyone knows the fix?17:27
Guest6844811.04 isn't communicatiing properly with my external mp4 player. Any ideas?17:27
Dr_Williscoder2:  i would suggest a clean install and you dont backup your package files to 11.04 you reinstall the ones you have installed.17:28
OY1Rafter getting this error > http://pastebin.com/i2ZahWqH (mount /dev on /root failed invalid argument), i was told to reinstall grub, now when i reboot i only get a grub prompt_ anyone ? using ubuntu 10.10.17:28
Dr_Willis!clone | coder217:28
ubottucoder2: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate17:28
zarbulaUbuntu, I upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10, running a custom 2.39 kernel and the Nvidia beta.  After I allowed the upgrade I am getting the Nvidia API error.  Should I recompile my custom Kernel again?17:28
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Another question:  Ubuntu installation is so old that I can't just apt-get upgrade.17:28
tensorpuddingjonii2: sorry17:28
jonii2tensorpudding: hmm?17:28
jonii2tensorpudding: i just got back lol17:28
pod88hi all, quick question, does anyone know how to make wobbly windows not wobble when focus changes?17:28
zarbula2.6.39*17:28
Dr_Willispr3d4t0r:  you can if you elable the archive servers. I forget the names of them. BUt that old an install.. i would do a clean install17:28
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Is it *possible* for me to force an upgrade to 10.04 LTS or newer by "wiping out" the current Ubuntu config?17:28
tensorpuddingjonii2: i didn't mention that doing that would restore your configuration to default17:28
tensorpuddingjonii2: but did it solve the issues?17:29
Dr_Willispr3d4t0r:  you enable the right repos and you can still upgrade i think. but i dont recall how17:29
Dr_Willis!eol17:29
jonii2tensorpudding: well i did your command and it didn't fix anything, but my configurations weren't changed much from default17:29
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:29
jonii2tensorpudding: but when i made a new account it works fine17:29
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Or should I just backup the service and user accounts, and install from CD?17:29
tensorpuddingjonii2: huh17:29
jonii2tensorpudding: maybe i typed in your command wrong or something17:29
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Yeah, I heard that but I screwed up the repo trying to do that about 18 months ago.17:29
Dr_Willispr3d4t0r:  given that a upgrade will take forever... and may fail.17:29
tensorpuddingjonii2: would seem to imply that it's some configuration somewhere else17:29
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sdahi all! Question, with monitor applet i can see read and write disk usage, can I see it with a terminal command? Thanks!17:29
Dr_Willispr3d4t0r:  i would keep /home/ and do a clean install17:29
PalinBachman2012jonii2: so its a configuration issue of some sort, held over from your previous installs and tweaks17:30
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: OKi - I'll just back the beast up.  Thanks :)17:30
icerootsda: iotop17:30
tensorpuddingjonii2: if you want to keep your old account but wipe out all your configuration, you could obliterate the ~/.config and ~/.local directories17:30
jonii2:( oh well i guess i'll just make a new account thats NOT named testing :D and use that, as long as it works17:30
axisysi cannot install metacafe video from ff either.. missing plugin17:30
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: I'm keeping /home, /etc (for reference) and /var/lib/named for the gateway.  Everything else I don't care.17:30
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Thanks for your help.17:30
jonii2tensorpudding: ok i'll try that, how do i delete  them?17:30
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Oh, and I'll buy a new NIC :)17:30
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: I appreciate your help :)17:30
axisysany pkg that will intsall all the plugins? or a list of pkgs?17:30
Dr_Willispr3d4t0r:  get 3 :)17:30
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: 3...?17:30
sdaiceroot, iotop isn't installed! how system monitor can see io use?17:30
PalinBachman2012jonii2: so you can move your windows, and your theme looks fine now?17:30
tensorpuddingjonii2: you could go and open the file manager, and show hidden files, they appear under you home directory as .config and .local17:30
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Oh, for swapping - heh.17:31
Dr_Willispr3d4t0r:  moar is better. :)17:31
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Heh.17:31
Hotmedalwhat is this largedesktop in unity that won't let me enable desktop cube?17:31
jonii2PalinBachman2012: I can move my windows on a new user account, and my theme looks.... terribly designed but thats not your guyses fault17:31
coreireI'm installing grub from the 11.04 live-cd using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows. When I install grub it says it went ok, but no grub.cfg is created. If I run "sudo update-grub" I get the error "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'"17:31
Dr_WillisHotmedal:  some extra plugins used by Unity i imagine. Cube can break unity i think. Or so i notices on the askubuntu web site17:31
PalinBachman2012jonii2: lol17:31
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* Dr_Willis hopes unity kills the cube17:31
HotmedalUnity looks boring17:32
warp_awesomechairs: that didnt work!17:32
zarbulaIf I'm running a custom kernel and I did the 11.04 upgrade should I recompile my kernel or is it ok?17:32
jonii2tensorpudding: ok, i did that, ima relog17:32
Hotmedalhow can I switch to normal Gnome17:32
tensorpuddingjonii2: unfortunately most gnome themes don't work so well with unity17:32
Hotmedal?17:32
tensorpuddingjonii2: before you do17:32
jonii2ok17:32
tensorpuddingjonii2: forgot to mention you might need to get rid of .gconf17:32
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: This is a Tynan/Rackable enterprise server with dual AMD64s.  I don't want to toss it for no reason.  Though I'm thinking it may be faster to just get a new server to replace it and put LTS on it.  Then migrate instead of rebuild.  Then wipe the old one and sell it on Craig's List :)17:32
jonii2tensorpudding: ok i'll get rid of that one to17:32
xanguahttp://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/bB9sFMlHRdw/ Dr_Willis Hotmedal17:32
theclawhi17:33
warp_how can I upgrade from Ubuntu install CD?17:33
xanguaenable cube from omg!ubuntu! *17:33
jonii2tensorpudding: what about gconfd?17:33
pr3d4t0rDr_Willis: Which Ubuntu Server should I use?  10.04 LTS or the newer one and just try to stay current with the upgrades?17:33
mikinanuqHotmedal Dr_Willis yes the cube kills Unity... confirmed :)17:33
pod88Hotmedal, at logon choose ubuntu classic17:33
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/38432/how-to-get-compiz-cube-effect-to-work17:33
tensorpuddingjonii2: i think that's just shared files, not configuration, so it probably isn't a problem?17:33
tensorpuddingjonii2: but you can wipe it too17:33
xanguawarp_: if you use maverik, it will ask you if you want to upgrade17:33
Dr_Willisaskubuntu - is going to be so handy. :)17:33
Hotmedalohh17:33
ShiverOnBT4Hello, anyone awake?17:33
Hotmedalnice17:33
jonii2tensorpudding: alright thanks, relogging17:33
KM0201warp_: from the ubuntu install cd?.. i don't think you can, you have to use the alt. cd17:33
kk9822hi17:33
tomaszczeka17:33
kk9822what is ver for laptops17:34
kk9822ie ubuntu 11,0417:34
Dr_Willisthe normal desktop cd  is for laptops and netbooks and desktop machines.17:34
besogonHi. Does Eee-control work?17:34
warp_xangua: I use Maverick, but laptop crashes in the middle of the upgrade process17:34
headnotfoundhey there17:34
uninspiredMy question does not contain any unity bashing, i would really like to give it a try -- but am failing to get it setup as i would like. I have a dual monitor setup, an external screen hooked up to a laptop. I set the external screen as primary display hoping it would show the dock on there but that unfortunately did not work. The global menu does show up on both screens, does anyone have any suggestions ? ( i did set the external17:34
Dr_Willisthe alt-cd is for problem machines, low ram, or other special cases17:34
Guest68448Hello, I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. However, they work fine when transferred from Windoze.17:34
crlcan81Somehow I hit a command in xchat IRC client which made it go 'fullscreen' where there's no top bar/menu, unless I go to another program. What is the keyboard command for that?17:34
mikinanuqkk9822: the regular ubuntu is for laptops there is a netbook version which is for small screen laptops "netbooks"17:34
ShiverOnBT4Got a question. Is there any way to password protect an open console so it wont be closed by accident?17:34
headnotfoundanyone using gnome3?17:34
kk9822is it 32 bit or sixty four17:34
yehudahcannot boot into 11.04 just hanging on blank screen17:34
Dr_Willisuninspired:  unity has issues with dual monitors it seems. Ive not tried that part yet.17:34
Dr_Willisuninspired:  i do recall some months back when i was messing with Global menu. there being some settings for it.. somewhere.17:35
xangua!gnome3 | headnotfound17:35
ubottuheadnotfound: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.17:35
uninspiredDr_Willis: thank you, it's a bit inconvenient to go from the "main screen" to the "secondary" to open up applications.17:35
Dr_Willisbut really. i dont care for global many. :)  so did not reserach it much.17:35
PeloOMG, it burns, how do i get back to vanilla gnome ?17:36
Guest68448yehudah: I had the same problem and found the solution on google. It was something about changing a setting in the first screen17:36
tensorpuddingShiverOnBT4: open console as in a terminal emulator or one of the system consoles?17:36
besogonUnity is the best17:36
Dr_Willisuninspired:  you could reorder your mionitors i guess.17:36
besogon:)17:36
uninspiredDr_Willis: the only settings i can find are wether to unfold the dock when hovering the mouse on the left or left angle.17:36
mikinanuqShiverOnBT4: try using "screen" even if the window is closed the console is open in the background..17:36
Dr_WillisUnity - 'warning men at work' :)17:36
yehudahwhich first screen?17:36
Guest68448yehuda: gimme a sec to see if I can find the link for you17:36
terrylmX, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x17:36
besogonubottu:  funcontrol17:36
headnotfoundok, thanks17:37
jonii2tensorpudding: your my new best friend ever! you fixed it!17:37
uninspiredDr_Willis: reorder meaning?17:37
kk9822hi pl confirm i should opt for thrity two or sixyfour17:37
kk9822pl17:37
tensorpuddingjonii2: i guess :)17:37
jonii2tensorpudding: still, terrible black on black menu bar but thats studio's fault not yours17:37
ShiverOnBT4wow im lagged. if anyone can answer that question pls pm it to me17:37
Dr_Willisuninspired:   I think the panel stuff apears on the primary monitor. at least thats what my nvidia-settings tool calls it.17:37
pr3d4t0rHave a nice day peeps :)17:37
tensorpuddingjonii2: you'd be less happy if you had a lot of application configuration that you just needed to wipe17:37
Dr_Willisuninspired:  perhaps check --> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=dual+monitor17:37
kk9822what is peeps17:37
warp_xangua: any ideas?17:37
yehudahGuest68448: can we go to pvt chat?17:37
jonii2tensorpudding: omg epic sadface17:37
mikinanuqShiverOnBT4: try using "screen" even if the window is closed the console is open in the background..17:37
uninspiredDr_Willis: right, thats what i did i set my external monitor as primary, still no go.17:37
ikoniaShiverOnBT4: are you using backtrack ?17:38
coder2Dr_Willis: you recommendedme clean install why so?is there problem in upgrading?17:38
eiriksvinis there an easy way to install this on Ubuntu 10.10: http://dbgthekafu.deviantart.com/art/black-white-2-Style-7327675517:38
jonii2tensorpudding: to get the unity bar to pop out i have to put my mouse at the left side of my left screen, and it pops up on the left side of my right screen :(17:38
tensorpuddingbut i mean, you could go and comb through that directory to find the specific ones that's causing the problems, and save the rest, but it's really tedious17:38
uninspiredDr_Willis: i'll try the link you gave me, thank you.17:38
Guest68448yehudah: sorry, I am new here and don't know how to do it. However, I have your answer here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=168513417:38
tensorpuddingjonii2: that's unfortunate :|17:38
kk9822what is this 32 and sixty four17:39
jonii2tensorpudding: maybe not, i think i can swap my screens so my main is on the left and secondary is on the right, then it won't be bad17:39
kk9822got to do with installation17:39
kk9822of ubuntu17:39
ikoniakk9822: different processor capabailities17:39
Guest68448Hello, I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. However, they work fine when transferred from Windoze. Please save me from having to reinstall Windoze!!!17:39
kk9822so what i should choose i have a dell studio17:39
tensorpuddingkk9822: if you don't really care, choose the 32-bit one17:39
ikoniaGuest68448: it's called "Windows"17:40
Crazy1hello ,when i use vim to create an text ,how did i quit from it without reserve it17:40
ikoniakk9822: 32bit seems the sensible option unless you have 4GB of ram or more17:40
jonii2tensorpudding: thanks dude, your awesome, and you actually told me to use the filemanager instead of some super long terminal command. :D alright i need to go bask in the new Unity awesomeness, see you later17:40
Crazy1did anyone know?17:40
ufozhi all. i did a dist upgrade to 11.04. In the Dash i cant search for applications, i cant start the multimedia applications.17:40
AmpelbeinCrazy1: ':wq'17:40
ikoniaCrazy1: :q!17:40
Guest68448ikonia: yes, in some circles. ;)17:40
pod88anyone here a compiz genius?17:40
icerootpod88: #compiz17:41
ikoniaGuest68448: in this one, it's called "windows"17:41
warp_how to resume from a failed upgrade process? I was upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 when my laptop crashs due to battery failure... any ideas?17:41
pod88iceroot, thanks17:41
Ampelbeinhmm, ikonia I think we parsed the question from crazy1 differently ;-)17:41
icerootwarp_: sudo dpkg --configure -a17:41
ikoniawarp_: depends on what stage it crashes, just re-do the upgrade process17:41
uninspiredDr_Willis: have the same problem as alfalive on this ticket: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17074/dual-monitor-unity-launcher-opening-on-wrong-monitor17:41
BKTech86when i boot up ubuntu on my laptop with live cd, the load screen looks normal, with good resolution, but when i boot from disk, it is all pixelated and the screen flickers a few times -- what's with that?17:41
Guest68448ikonia: is that a rule or a preference?17:41
uninspirednot sure why he says "good news" tho :P17:41
warp_iceroot thanks17:42
pod88iceroot, thier channel banner says no useer support :(17:42
ikoniaGuest68448: showing some respect by using the proper product name, and communitcating cleary,17:42
IdleOneGuest68448: The idea is that we can't expect the Windows community to take the Linux community serious if we can't even use the proper spelling of their OS of choice.17:43
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Crazy1ikonia: thank you,it works17:44
ufozi try to search for installed applications in the unity dash. but nothing happens. it wont search17:44
warp_ikonia: I will try sudo dpkg --configure -a suggested by iceroot, but I think it was at the third pass...17:44
ricardohello ubuntuS17:44
Guest68448ikonia: sorry, but as a newb I'm lost when it comes to terminology. I've had this problem in the past but cannot remember the name of the program I need. As for respect, after spending a bundle and reinstalling on the 20th time, I was shown respect by not being allowed to reinstall until I sent them 199 USD for a new key.17:44
KrupteinIt has probably been asked a lot,   but what are possible solutions to improve my performance but sticking to unity?  I really notice a larger difference in speed compared to 10.1017:44
ikoniaGuest68448: you've just said random words, you know the product is called "Windows" - call it "windows" please rather than trying to make excuses, then someone may actually help you17:45
ricardohello, anyone can help-me17:45
ikoniaricardo: if you ask a question17:45
thiebaude!offtopic17:45
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!17:45
ricardobaterry estimation on ubuntu17:45
ikoniaricardo: depends on your hardware, and what you're doing - rule of thumb is same as windows17:46
Guest68448ikonia: you just got here. I've been here for hours and others have been trying to help. But I lack the terminology to clearly explain the problem with my mp4 player.17:46
Dr_Willisricardo:  i get better battery life under windows on my laptop. but only if i enable its extreme 'eco' mode feature. which  slows it down so much its barely useable. :)17:46
ikoniaGuest68448: you KNOW the product is called windows, so don't use that as an excuse, if you use the correct term "windows" and clearly state your problem, maybe someone will help you17:47
mick_st_johnola a to2 y tod@s17:47
MattAAron If I can do dual monitors on my video card now, and I buy another video card (exact same one as the one I have now), would I be able to do 4 monitors??17:47
ricardoThis is a bug, right?  The status of the battery is ever:  estimation...17:47
icerootMattAAron: yes17:47
ikoniaMattAAron: depends on the xorg dirvers you're using, what video card is it ?17:47
Dr_WillisMattAAron:  if the pc can fit them all in.  and they are nvidia - just use the nvidia settings tool.17:47
MattAAronhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681415044717:47
Dr_WillisMattAAron:  you will need a big desk. :)17:47
MattAAronATI, 577017:47
wildc4rdwould someone be so kind as to remind me of the code to change the maximise/minimise etc buttons back to the right hand side after an upgrade to narwhal17:47
MattAAronlol Dr17:48
ikoniaDr_Willis: no they can't17:48
ikoniait doesn't support multiple cards17:48
ikoniaDr_Willis: twinview only supports 1 card with multiple ports17:48
Guest68448ikonia: I was talking about Linux terminology. I couldn't care less about MS.17:48
ikoniaGuest68448: I can, it's called "windows"17:48
SledgeLOL17:48
Dr_Willisikonia:  ive used it with 3 monitors.  Not lately but about a year ago i did.17:48
ubuntuconnect irc.server.net17:48
MattAAronso 2xRadeon 5770 = 4 monitors right?17:48
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mick_st_johnxico solo busca xica sola acepto privis17:48
Guest68448ikonia: I'm happy for you17:48
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tjiggi_fo!es | mick_st_john17:48
ubottumick_st_john: En la mayoría de canales de Ubuntu se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español o charlar entra en el canal #ubuntu-es. Escribe "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y dale a enter.17:48
ikoniaDr_Willis: 3d acceleration ?17:49
ricardoikonia: Is possible fix this bug?17:49
mrchakwould anybody feel magnanimous enough to help me with some problems with an Ubuntu 11.04 upgrade?17:49
ikoniaDr_Willis: eg: 3 monitors being spanned on two cards with 3d acceleration ?17:49
ikoniamrchak: just ask, people will help if they can17:49
Dr_Willisikonia:  one card was onboard. other was an 8800gtsxxx  i just ran it that way for a few days . so dont recall.17:49
GuyCanadahey guys im having  problem where i cant get my hdmi output to work since upgrading to 11.0417:49
Dr_Willisikonia:  i do think compiz was working with it. I recall the cube effect being very very weird.17:49
MnCCis there a list of chipsets supported by unity ? cant find it17:49
ikoniaDr_Willis: let me double check this as I've actually spoke to people at nvidia about this hence my surprise17:50
mrchakI've just upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 using the Update manager and after the install, when the computer rebooted I got the Grub prompt and have been unable to boot into Ubuntu17:50
Dr_WillisMnCC:  it would be chipsets supported by X/Ubuntu.17:50
Guest68448Hello, I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. On the mp4 player I can see the folders but not the contents. In Ubuntu I can see the folder and contents of the mp4 player.17:50
CutepuppyI am having an issue installing 11.4 on a Lenovo T500, crashing with a modprobe error, is there a workaround for this ?17:50
Dr_Willisikonia:  it may not have had 3d. i rarely use that stuff. I just wanted wide scrren. I also had issues where it would work.. but when i rebooted. it wold break. untill i reran nvidia-settings and restarted X.17:50
MnCCDr_Willis, why is it complaining about not having good enough hardware ?17:50
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GuyCanadais anyone else having an issue outputting hdmi with 11.04? im running a nvidia card and im not sure what to do17:51
Dr_WillisMnCC:  you dont have the drivers installed for 3d support - is the #1 answer to that question17:51
Dr_WillisGuyCanada:  hdmi video or are you refering to audio?17:51
mrchakI am currently running 11.04 live cd17:51
thiebaude!unity 2d17:51
GuyCanadadr_willis: video, sorry.17:51
MnCCDr_Willis, how do i test this ?17:51
Dr_Willis!info unity-2d17:51
ubottuunity-2d (source: unity-2d): Unity interface for non-accelerated graphics cards. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.4.1-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 124 kB17:51
Haltyes?17:51
thiebaudethanks Dr,:)17:52
Dr_WillisMnCC:  run the addational-drivers tool and see what it says.17:52
ikoniaDr_Willis: still worth me checking up, thanks17:52
MnCCDr_Willis, can tell you that now: nothing17:52
GuyCanadadr_willis: i used to be able to simple hit function-F8 to go to hdmi and it doesnt work anymore. ive already chaked that my keyboard is mapped properly17:52
Dr_Willisikonia:  I cant even test. I had to pull out my 8800 to plug in a usb-3 card. :) and now the pc is now a lot quieter heh.17:52
Guest27069i recently reinstalled ubuntu and selected lvm during the install, but I noticed that ubuntu barely used my second hard drive and only place a swap partition on it. I was hoping someone could help me figure out if lvm is configured correctly17:52
workMy tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?17:52
Dr_WillisMnCC:  what is yoru video chipset?17:52
pod88bah, noone is alive in #compiz, anyone here good with it?17:52
ikoniaGuest27069: how many disks are in the volume group ?17:53
ben_test17:53
KrupteinIt has probably been asked a lot,   but what are possible solutions to improve my performance but sticking to unity?  I really notice a larger difference in speed compared to 10.1017:53
ben_dit is een test zo meteen kassa kijken17:53
Guest27069ikonia: not sure what you mean17:53
ben_www.radio-tv-nederland.nl17:53
workMy tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?17:53
ben_bye God bless ya17:53
AzoteLogikoben_ :D17:53
jw_Finally got on to 11.04 looks beautiful, Does compiz work at all?17:53
ikoniaGuest27069: pastebin the output of these two commands please "mount" and then the output of "sudo vgdisplay"17:54
ikoniaGuest27069: please use a pastebin for the output17:54
russjr08Hey guys, I need help removing kde, I installed kubuntu-desktop and when I try to remove it using the puregnome instructions from psychocats I get an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/601393/17:54
Raiders32I just upgraded to Natty.  How do you clear "Recent" which appears when you click on "Files & Folders" launcher button?17:54
mrchakI've just upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 using the Update manager and after the install, when the computer rebooted I got the Grub prompt and have been unable to boot into Ubuntu17:54
Dr_Willisrussjr08:  that guide may be a little outof date with the new releases.17:54
terrylmX, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x17:54
russjr08Dr_Willis, it says it's for Natty17:54
GuyCanadaDr_Willis: its video out, i used to be able to hit function-F8 to go to hdmi and ive checked that my keyboard is mapped properly17:54
Guest68448I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. On the mp4 player I can see the folders but not the contents. In Ubuntu I can see the folder and contents of the mp4 player. I had this problem before with PCLOS and was told to install a program that enabled communication between the OS and the mp4 player. It worked perfectly after. But I cannot remember the name of the program or the type of program it was.17:55
workMy tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?17:55
russjr08"Getting Back to a Pure Gnome on Ubuntu17:55
russjr08Note, this applies only to Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty)."17:55
muneebIs it necessary to have nspluginwrapper even if i install 64bit flash-plugin??17:55
MnCCDr_Willis, VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller] i915 driver attached, reenabling gpu turbo17:55
Dr_WillisGuyCanada:  changeing displays on the fly. Hmm. once on my laptop - i had to enable the monitor using the monitors setting tool. and I recall needing to be plugged into the external when i powered up. Or else it would be a little flakey17:55
pod88noone... :(17:55
rokyronniecause I wanted to combine 2 partitions without losing data I resized a partition by adding to it the free space from that HDD, so that's what I did, but, after rebot my PC runns very ver HARD, I opened Gparted, and guess what? that free space is still there and now in Gparted --> Devices I can see my HDD /dev/sda (149.05Gb) and then it comes a list from /dev/sda100 (119 Gb) to /dev/sda225 (119Gb) so there are 125 "devices" what can I do to have my HDD bac17:56
thiebaudei have amd opteron, but with 2gb ram should i go for 32 or 64bit?17:56
pod88that makes me a sad panda17:56
Dr_WillisMnCC:  Most intel drivers are allready included. You may want to check the forums for that exact chipset - to see if theres some known bugs going on.17:56
workMy tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?17:56
Dr_Willisthiebaude:  i use 64bit on all my machines that can do 64bit. :) 5 out of 6.17:56
SaiDawiI have installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my Sony Vaio Laptop, but it's stopped every now and then17:56
MnCCDr_Willis, ill give google another try17:56
Guest27069ikonia: http://pastebin.com/wRQ70sEn17:56
thiebaudeok i'll go with that, with login enabled17:57
russjr08Ok, I think I may have fixed it :)17:57
ikoniathiebaude: makes no difference17:57
Dr_WillisMnCC:  thers the askubuntu web site now also17:57
SaiDawiThe whole system stops working, the mouse movces, but I can't really do anything17:57
russjr08sudo apt-get install default-jre17:57
CutepuppyIf i am experiencing this issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743181&highlight=T500, what could i do to be able to install 11.04 ?17:57
GuyCanadaDr_Willis: Thanks, another guy said the same thing and i tried booting with the external plugged in but it didnt seem to help. How would i do it with the monitors settings? i think the nvidia settings override my monitor settings if that makes sense?17:57
thiebaudeso i can choose gnone classic,lol17:57
ikoniaGuest27069: what is starred out ?17:57
Dr_Willisthiebaude:  i got one box cacheing the apt packages for the rest of the lan. so i save space/time by doing all 64 when i can.17:57
thiebaudethanks ikonia and Dr. :)17:57
redgonecan i turn off composite without breaking unity?17:57
Dr_WillisGuyCanada:  You did try running the nvidia-settings tool?17:57
thiebaudeDr, it uses a little more ram, 64 bit?17:58
id10tanyone know an easy program for working with java code? I am use to using jGrasp and don't know how to get Eclipse to work17:58
Dr_Willisthiebaude:  ive never really noticed it using any more. In theory it does.17:58
Edwisocahi, i have a laptop hp, core i5, 500 gb hdd, 4 gb ram, intel gma 4500mhd, and i just downloaded ubuntu 11.04 yesterday, im trying the live feature from my pendrive and it works fine, but when i try to install the ubuntu on my laptop i just get a black screen, but the caps block still works, what can i do?17:58
thiebaudeim on windows 7 but im moving to 11.0417:58
thiebaude:)17:58
Dr_Willis!eclipse17:58
GuyCanadaDr_Willis: I have im not exactly sure that im doing though but i cant see my other display17:58
operatorplikgfdj17:58
thiebaudebbl17:58
Kevin147Is there any widgets in 11.04 for like the weather?17:58
thiebaudei got to go burn a cd17:59
SaiDawiAny idea on my issue? I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my Sony Vaio Laptop, but it's stopping every now and then.. The whole system stops working, the mouse movces, but I can't really do anything..17:59
Dr_WillisGuyCanada:  Hmm. sounds like the drive is not seeing it at all. that may be the core of the whole problem.17:59
Guest27069ikonia: my user name, someone told me not to include those due to a security risk17:59
id10tedwisoca, intel gma has been known for its problems with the default video drivers.17:59
GuyCanadaDr_Willis: interesting, do you have any suggestion about what could be done?17:59
ikoniaGuest27069: there is no service risk and for things like device mapper, it makes it hard to see what's going on17:59
Dr_WillisKevin147:  theres some indicator-applets out there that do the weather. saw one mentioned at the omgubuntu blog site.17:59
mrchakI am running Natty Live CD right now, is it possible for me to recover my old Home Directory from Ubuntu 10.10?17:59
Edwisocaid10t, what can i do if i want to install ubuntu 11.0417:59
Guest27069sorry, want me to repaste?17:59
Kevin147Dr_Willis: alright, thanks :P18:00
ikoniaGuest27069: how big is your hard disk ?18:00
ikoniaGuest27069: nah, I figured it out enough, just want to check some stuff18:00
Sledgeis there a  way i can change these hotcorner thingies18:00
Dr_Willismrchak:  you can access your old ubuntu install.  and copy stuff elsewhere.18:00
warp_thiebaude: You are taking the SMART decision!18:00
Sledgeusually you can just right click on them change their settings top, right bottom, left all that jazz18:00
muneeb Is it necessary to have nspluginwrapper even if i install 64bit flash-plugin??18:00
ikonianoonoooo: yes18:00
ikoniaoops18:00
ikoniamuneeb: not for flash no, but for other 32bit stuff, sure18:00
Sledge I HATE FLASH18:00
snowrichardmy monitor says "input not support" during the 11.04 bootup but once the login screen starts its ok18:00
ikoniaSledge: thanks for that random noise18:01
Dr_Willismrchak:  it dosent show up in the places menu? You could try mounting it by hand.18:01
przemoReXhi. I've got an issue when running eclipse on ubuntu 11.04. Side sliding bars doesn't show up18:01
id10tedwiscoca, specifically which intel gma do you have, ie: intel gma 4500?18:01
Sledgeikonia,  well sorry, but it stopped working after the upgrade, and i had it working just so good.18:01
muneebikonia, i'm having problems with nspluginwrapper so i was thinking of removing it... what should i do?18:01
Edwisocaintel gma 4500mhd18:01
Sledgemuneeb,  are you having a problem with flash after the upgrade?18:01
ikoniamuneeb: remove it if you want to18:01
Dr_Willissnowrichard:  i get a similer error. 'out of range' - i disabled the plymouth splash, and made grub use a normal text interface.18:01
HaltBanshee won't play any music, it just says "idle" :\18:02
Edwisocais there a secure mode or a alternative video install part?18:02
researcher123I have downloaded ubuntu 11.04. I am on 10.4.how to install 11.04 it to replace 10.04?18:02
muneebSledge, flash didnt get install due to errors from nspluginwrapper so i installed it manually..18:02
Sledgemuneeb did you use the .so file?18:02
HaltBanshee won't play any music, it just says "idle" :(18:02
rumpel1researcher123, best way: put it on a usb-stick, boot from it, install from it with formatting /18:02
russjr08researcher123, the installer for 11.04 should have an option to replace ubuntu 10.0418:03
muneebSledge, yes but 64bit18:03
snowrichardDr_Willis,  well its not hurting anything.  Would i disable the splash in the grub 2 configuration some how?18:03
Sledgemuneeb, yes same exact problem im having18:03
russjr08Halt, have you installed the appropriate codecs?18:03
GuyCanadaDr_Willis: hey, i have it working now the display is detected but i remember doing this before now. nvidia isnt very good at handling this stuff, when i plug in a new monitor is affects my computer monitor ins strange ways and i cant just copy my computer display to the other monitor. i think im going about it wrong now that i think about it tho. i dont want a second monitor i want to output as if i were using the pc for a presentation or simmilar18:03
Haltruss, it was working last night18:03
researcher123russjr08: but it will undo earlier applications which are installed on 10.0418:03
russjr08hmm..18:03
glaceon_hello please18:03
Haltbooted up this morning and now it doesn't18:03
glaceon_people18:03
researcher123@upgrade18:03
muneebikonia, i'm unsure whether am i using 32bit or 64bit java.. that's why i'm not removing it18:03
researcher123!upgrade18:03
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade18:03
GuyCanadaDr_Willis: for my computer i can normally press function-F8 so do this but now its changed, im not sure if that means anyhting to you18:03
Haltso yeah, im dying without my music18:04
HaltD:18:04
axisysi needed to install ubuntu-restricted-extras for the firefox and google chrome plugin to work with metacafe18:04
Dr_Willissnowrichard:  i use the quiet nosplash  option. in /etc/default/grub  and theres a setting commented to enable the text/simple grub menu also.18:04
SledgeHalt use rythmbox18:04
muneebSledge, so is flash working now?18:04
przemoReXI'm also very used to changing order of the open windows butons in window list on bottom bar in Gnome but it's disabled in 11.04. How can I enable buttons sliding in window list bar?18:04
Haltwhy?18:04
id10tedwisoca, it should work for you, I suggest re-installing 11.04 from a cd. check out this article: http://wiki.daviddarts.com/Ubuntu_Maverick_on_the_Asus_UL30VT18:04
Sledgemuneeb,  no i have tried uninstalling and reinstalling18:04
Haltbanshee WAS working18:04
Dr_WillisGuyCanada:  the driver is proberly not letting it do it.  OR you need to do that fn-f8 THEN run the nvidia-settings tool. and it may see it.18:04
snowrichard /etc/default/grub thanks18:04
Edwisocathanks id10t!!!18:04
snowrichardi'll take a look18:04
Dr_WillisGuyCanada:  perhpas the laptop is turning it Off. so the driver is not seeing it to let you configure it.18:05
Guest27069ikonia: any ideas?18:05
SledgeUsually i can just right click on a launcher panel and change the size settings, and things liek that color, text font.. but for some reason i can't do that anymore, and all my colors and sizes hhave changed with unity..18:05
muneebSledge, i just copied that .so file to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so and it worked18:05
id10tedwisoca, np18:06
Tetsuo55woah18:07
Tetsuo55that was the wierdest bug i ever encountered18:07
Edwisocanope18:07
GuyCanadaDr_Willis: again im not really sure what that means, nvidia can detect the display right now if i go to configure it as a second monitor but not to hit fn-F8 so im not sure what that means. is there a way to manually turn on video outputs?18:07
Edwisocaid10t18:07
Tetsuo55I pressed alt-tab and was greeted by the login screen18:07
Tetsuo55in less than a second ubuntu had logged me out18:07
Edwisocait works when ubuntu is installed18:07
Tetsuo55and gracefully closed all my apps18:07
Tetsuo55wtf18:07
Edwisocabut i cannot install18:07
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Edwisocai just get a black screen is there a text mode install?18:07
GuyCanadaDr_Willis: woah i got a strange message this time when i hit fn-F8 it says "could not switch monitor configurations for crt 351"18:08
jasonmchristosWhen I am using the ubuntu live CD and gnome starts acting up how would I from cli tell gnome to restart?18:08
ph88how do i setup a connection with a crosscable to my NAS ? my nas has samba support (and also linux network TFS but not sure)18:08
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Dr_WillisGuyCanada:   interesting. Not try the nvidia-settings tool?18:08
Dr_Willisnow try....18:08
Tetsuo55unfortunately apport didnt catch it, i did see a quick flash of console output18:09
Dr_Willisjasonmchristos:  sudo service gdm restart would kill/restart gnome18:09
GuyCanadaDr_Willis: ok, also its kind of interesting if i go to the monitors preferences it does NOT detect another monitor18:09
ph88correction i mean NFS instead of TFS18:10
Dr_WillisGuyCanada:  theres also the command to try 'nvidia-xconfig'  theres an -A option (i think) that tells it to make an xorg.conf to enable all monitors. Its been ages since ive had to use it, you may want to check its --help output.18:10
mrchakwhen upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, should my Home directory and files be safe?18:10
gmachine_24anyone have a good utility to set CPU levels - to save on power when running on battery, etc.18:10
Soothsayermrchak, can you back them up?18:11
coder2can i upgrade directly to 11.04 from 10.04 without going through 10.10??18:11
_Neytiri_is there a way to upgrade from a 32 but ubuntu to 64 bit without reinstalling the whole system18:11
Soothsayer_Neytiri_, I don't think so18:11
xangua_Neytiri_: no18:11
GuyCanada--help output18:11
snowrichardDr_Willis, thank you no more annoying message on the monitor18:11
Dr_Willis_Neytiri_:  Big No. :)18:11
sakekasimy banshee sound menu entry has disappeared. how do I get it back?18:11
xanguacoder2: always good ideam make a copy of important data18:11
Dr_Willissnowrichard:  great.. err.. wjhat mesage? :)18:11
_Neytiri_k i guess i gotto scratch the system again18:11
ph88how do i mount my NAS? it has samba and NFS support, i am using a crosscable18:11
snowrichardabout not supported video mode18:12
Dr_WillisI just got a 'teacher badge' on the askubuntu web site. heh.18:12
terrylmX, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x18:12
Dr_Willisph88:  you mean a crossover cable? does it get an ip#?18:12
coder2Dr_Willis: congrats18:12
okenobi_Hello everybody! I made an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 and everything worked smooth! Congrats!18:12
Dr_Willissnowrichard:  I have the attention span of a newt.  :)18:12
truepurpleWhat is the name of that other channel? Something like "#ubuntu-beginners"18:12
ph88Dr_Willis: yes i mean a crossover cable, i'm not sure if it gets an ip18:12
SuBmUnDoplease, how to disable the touch screen in ubuntu 11.04?18:13
gmachine_24Dr_Willie, I'm sorry, what were you talking about? ;)18:13
SaiDawiHow can I stop those silly visuals in the new Ubuntu? I could do that in 10.10 from the Appearance menu18:13
gmachine_24Willis, even18:13
mrchakSoothsayer: after the upgrade (from Update manager) I rebooted but got stuck on the GRUB prompt18:13
coder2okenobi_: can i upgrade directly to 11.04 from 10.04 without going through 10.10??18:13
Soothsayermrchak, damn, I went through that too.18:13
mrchakSoothsayer: now I'm running Natty Live CD to try to access my old Home directory18:13
xanguaSaiDawi: unity won't work without compiz if that is what you are asking18:13
gmachine_24coder2, yes18:13
okenobi_coder2: I don't think so!18:13
gmachine_24why not?18:13
SaiDawi;/18:13
ph88Dr_Willis: may i query you ?18:13
tatzenblogdecoder2, you cant upgrade directly18:13
mmanmade and upgrade to 11.04 and wireless network does not work. did lshw -C network and my wireless network says DISABLE. any ideas how to enable it?18:13
EdwisocaAnybody knows hot to install ubuntu 1104 in text mode????18:13
xanguaSaiDawi: use 'classic desktop' or 'unity 2d'18:13
Soothsayermrchak, I just ran the installer all over again. Can you move your /home and data files to a separate partition?18:13
coder2gmachine_24: show me the way?18:13
przemoReXI'd like to ask if anybody using eclipse on ubuntu 11.04 has an issue with missing side sliding bars18:13
rgrWhy is unity tied in with Compiz? Must it use 3d wobbles or what?18:14
tatzenblogdeEdwisoca, use alternate cd18:14
SaiDawihow can I choose to use Classic desktop? ex0a18:14
gmachine_24coder2, well these people here know more than me so apparently I'm wrong.18:14
Edwisocathaks18:14
SaiDawierr... xangua18:14
Soothsayermrchak, I'd _really_ suggest just formatting your OS partition and installing 11.04 from scratch. Quite a bunch of people are facing odd upgrade issues.18:14
truepurpleWhat is the name of that other channel? Something like "#ubuntu-beginners"18:14
mrchaksoothsayer: I can't find my home and data files now.18:14
tatzenblogdeEdwisoca, you can choose with F4 or F6 (options) the command-line-system18:14
snowrichardguess i was lucky upgrade worked fine18:14
groundupHey, I am having troubles with apt-get today. I was trying to upgrade Nginx but it failed and now I can't do anything with apt-get because it says The following packages have unmet dependencies:  nginx-full : Depends: nginx-common (= 1.0.0-0ppa1~maverick) but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.18:14
okenobi_coder2: there is a flag though to list only LTS versions! and then you CAN!18:14
gmachine_24coder2: besides I never upgrade. I had one bad experience a long time ago so I just save my data files and do a fresh install18:14
snowrichardeven wireless still worked18:14
Dr_Willisph88:  i may have to chase after the grandkids at a moments notice. so i often run off unexpectedly.18:14
Soothsayermrchak, are you sure you didn't run a formatted install ?18:14
SaiDawiI don't want to use Unity, it's bothering me18:14
coder2gmachine_24: allright.......no worry18:14
mrchakSoothsayer: I didn't format.18:15
jimcooncatI'm with you, gmachine_2418:15
groundupOf course, I went through the process of trying -f numerous times but it always comes up with the same error18:15
xanguagroundup: tried to use apt-get instaññ -f, like the message says¿¿18:15
DeadEndSaiDawi: to use classic desktop with or without effects logout and change to classic desktop18:15
ph88how do i block users from querying me? I am using Ubuntu 11.04 with empathy (IRC network ofcourse)18:15
tchomasSaiDawi,  logout and change to clasic version18:15
Dr_Willisph88:  if you are using a crossover cable. You mauy need to install a dhcp server, or set up the NAS with a static ip.18:15
groundupxangua: beat you to the punch :P18:15
mrchakSoothsayer: It was just an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 using the Update manager18:15
gmachine_24jimcooncat: yeah, it was a grand disaster18:15
okenobi_coder2: for servers I'm sure you can! for desktop, i didn't do it personaly, but now that i think of it, I'm sure you can make an upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04!18:15
xanguaph88: empathy is very limited for irc18:15
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SaiDawiAha aha18:15
SaiDawiOh finally!!18:15
SaiDawiThankies!18:15
gmachine_24anyone have a good utility to set CPU levels - to save on power when running on battery, etc.18:15
tchomasSaiDawi,  no problem18:15
rgrI cant help but wonder why Canonical took it on themsleves to make the default Unity which in turn puts huge HW/Driver match issue in front of people who simply want to stick with their "classic" Gnome. Its nothing short of incompetent. Many people have upgraded and now get no desktop at all becuase of Unity/Compiz issues.18:15
marcavishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/772204 hmm looking for a fix/workaround for this one18:16
ubottuUbuntu bug 772204 in jockey (Ubuntu) "nvidia driver showing as "activated but not in use" on Natty with latest updates" [Undecided,New]18:16
ph88Dr_Willis: yes a DHCP server is needed since this is what the NAS expects, i'll check soon if i can find any tutorials on it. Thx (i assumed this functionally would work out of the box)18:16
xanguargr: there is still 'classic desktop'18:16
tchomasfor all peaople !! you can change to classic view  ( not unity) then you logout and change destkop to classic ubuntu !!18:16
gmachine_24isn't this about the point when someone says something about staying on topic18:16
rgrgmachine_24: look up laptop mode18:16
marcavisEr, I suppose plenty of people have been talking about that bug 772204?18:16
bibinouhi18:16
GuyCanadaDr_Willis: hey i just installed GRandR and it also doesnt detect the monitor so that appears to be the problem.18:16
gmachine_24rgr: stupid question: laptop mode where?18:17
bibinouI updated to natty yesterday18:17
rgrand powertop18:17
mmanph88,  cant you just give to the NAS a static ip?18:17
bibinouhow can I get the old scrollbars back ?18:17
mmanmade and upgrade to 11.04 and wireless network does not work. did lshw -C network and my wireless network says DISABLE. any ideas how to enable it?18:17
GuyCanadadoesnt anyone know how to manually turn on a hdmi output port? its not being detected by my monitors preferences or GRandR18:17
rgrin google of course withe word "ubuntu".18:17
GuyCanadadoes anyone*18:17
Guest68448I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. On the mp4 player I can see the folders but not the contents. In Ubuntu I can see the folder and contents of the mp4 player. I had this problem before with PCLOS and was told to install a program that enabled communication between the OS and the mp4 player. It worked perfectly after. But I cannot remember the name of the program or the type of program it was.18:17
rgrpowertop is real nice18:17
Dr_Willisph88:  a dns server is not installed by default. so  Nope it wont. :) i always set up my NAS's and so forth with static ip's in the .200 range. so i can tell them from my other machines18:17
MathuinThe 11.04 netbook ISO BitTorrent link on the Ubuntu site doesn't work.  Is there another known good BT link for the netbook ISO?18:17
Chrom_hi all18:17
bp0bibinou, apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlayscrollbar-*18:17
Dr_WillisMathuin:  there is no Netbook ISO.18:17
Dr_WillisMathuin:  that link is a mistake.18:18
Chrom_I can't drag icons into the trash applet in gnome-classic. is it a knows bug?18:18
Chrom_known18:18
tatzenblogdeMathiun, did you mean the ARM?18:18
bibinoubp0 : thank you !18:18
MathuinDr_Willis: so the link was an oversight.18:18
gmachine_24rgr: ok thanks although I don't 'google'18:18
bp0bibinou, liboverlay-scrollbar- maybe18:18
rgrChrom_: why not check the bug lists. Wouldnt that be the smart thing to do?18:18
Dr_WillisMathuin:  thats what i hear. theres no x86 netbook edition any more. desktop ed. covers both.18:18
Mathuintatzenblogde: I meant "http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent"18:18
mmanmade and upgrade to 11.04 and wireless network does not work. did lshw -C network and my wireless network says DISABLE. any ideas how to enable it?18:18
Chrom_rgr: I'm a user not a developer18:18
rgrgmachine_24: ok, then guess. google can help. Its not a monster.18:18
MathuinDr_Willis: before I do the upgrade, does anyone know if this will work on the Eee?18:18
Chrom_but I will surely check it18:19
Dr_WillisMathuin:  it should. test with a usb flash live setup perhaps>?18:19
mrchakSoothSayer: I think that all of my data and files were wiped with the upgrade.18:19
pcriijockey is reporting that my video driver is activated but not currently in use (nvidia v 173) is there a way to get my drivers working properly?18:19
rgrChrom_: right, and so are most people here. But if you use Linux then it shouldnt be beyond your cinompetence to search the bug lists if you want to know if something is already logged.18:19
Soothsayermrchak, you ran the upgrade from within 10.10 or through a 11.04 cd?18:19
sakekasimy banshee sound menu entry has disappeared. how do I get it back?18:19
ph88mman yes i could give the NAS a static ip, but since i can't access the webinterface now ... i cant set this up18:19
MathuinDr_Willis: that'll tell me if the code works, but not if the upgrade works.  I've had upgrade problems in the past with desktop on the Eee, specifically windows that were too big for the screen.18:19
lsimonsIs there an option for global menu so it shows the menus before you mouse over the bar?18:19
pmitrosmman: I made the same mistake. Broadcom drivers, in my case, broke. Complex instructions on the interwebs for fixing it. From what I hear, lots of other drivers broke too18:19
Guest68448Chrom: I had that problem once. It was my fault. I did something with Tweak. Are you using it?18:19
BubbblebuttHi all could someone help me with a netbook that I just updated from 10.10 x32 to 11.04 x32 please18:19
tatzenblogdeMathiun, did you mean the ARM?Mathuin, i runn it on my eee 1005pe18:19
Sledgehas anyone figured out how to navigate easily with this UNITY18:20
Dr_WillisMathuin:  i never upgrade. :)18:20
tatzenblogdesorry18:20
mrchakSoothsayer: Not from CD, from Ubuntu Gnome Update Manager18:20
groundupAny information on how to properly clean apt-get up? I can't uninstall Nginx18:20
Chrom_rgr: do you mean ubuntu bug list, gnome bug list, trash applet bug list?18:20
rgrBubbblebutt: just ask.18:20
groundupI tried clean18:20
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tatzenblogdeMathuin, i run then ormal 32bit on my eee18:20
ph88Dr_Willis: good idea, i will use a static IP next time :)18:20
lsimonsSledge, working on it :(  I've got phantom bottom bar syndrome18:20
rgrChrom_: I mean check.18:20
Dr_WillisSledge:  the omgubuntu blog site has a wallpaper-cheat sheet of all the shortcut keys.18:20
SoothsayerSledge, navigate to ?18:20
Mathuintatzenblogde: did you have any trouble installing?  I only have a 1000, and the windows were too tall for my display to do the install, had to attach ane xternal monitor.18:20
mmanpmitros, i just found a fix for broadcom, but not for Centrino that is what im looking for18:20
Dr_WillisI normally fullscreen all my apps and alt-tab all day long. :) so not much differance for me..18:20
mrchakSoothsayer: Then after all of the new files were installed and old files removed the computer rebooted and instead of booting Ubuntu I got the GRUB prompt18:20
mmanpmitros, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/76092018:20
rgrit takes as long to google "ubuntu bug *problem" as it does to ask here you know ;) if you want something explained then ask here.18:20
ubottuUbuntu bug 760920 in Ubuntu "STA driver not can not activate bcm4311 wireless" [Undecided,New]18:20
GuyCanadahow do i restart x server?18:21
dclakeI have a weird problem after upgrading to 11.0418:21
melonehello =) is here maybe an expert for alsa/pulseaudio who can help me?18:21
Dr_WillisGuyCanada:  'sudo service gdm restart' should kill and restart X.18:21
rgrGuyCanada: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart18:21
tatzenblogdeMathuin, i have no problems. With 11.04, the wlan driver is in the kernel (before i had to install via jockey). :-) No problems18:21
Chrom_rgr: anyway, just for the records, I have been browsing the web about that for a reasonable while and I haven't found anything.18:21
dclakeI get an error saying "The disf drive for / is not ready yet or not present"18:21
pcriijockey is reporting that my video driver is activated but not currently in use (nvidia v 173) is there a way to get my drivers working properly?18:21
Mathuintatzenblogde: thanks for the good news!  Hopefully mine will be too.  I'll find out soon!18:21
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dclake"Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"18:21
tatzenblogdeMathuin, no problem :-) let us know if there are any problems18:21
dclakecan any one lep with this?18:22
rgrthen its probably not known...18:22
pmitrosmman: That only works if you have wired. In my case, both wireless and wired broke. I have to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx to get the wireless back up, which seems like a ton of work18:22
MathuinI'll do that.  Bye!18:22
Dr_Willispcrii:  it says that i think when you just installed it. but not yet rebooted.18:22
mmanph88, cant u ssh? or in "worst" case, just install a dhcp server for a sec18:22
Bubbblebuttrgr: Ok sorry but Im fairly new to using linux and well I had a stable install of 10.10 on my Aspire one D255E and I updated it to 11.04 using the "Update" window. But now I cant move any windows around, my mouse has no right click, its laggier then CS 1.6 on 56k, and the damn keyring keeps popping up requesting a password that I have not changed....18:22
tatzenblogdebye18:22
Sledgehttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/become-a-natty-power-user-in-no-time-using-this-unit-keyboard-shortcuts-wallpaper/18:22
Sledgeyou mean this?18:22
Sledgeand my SEE Desktop icon is gone!18:22
Sledgegrr.18:22
groundupWhen I try to install nginx-common I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)18:22
rgrBubbblebutt: welcome to a Ubuntu upgade. My advice? Ditch it and reinstall from scratch.18:22
s33khi... i need some help.... my lap runs on ubuntu 10.1018:22
Sledgewon't let me add anything to it either18:22
rgrBubbblebutt: as it sounds really hosed.18:23
mmanpmitros, download the package from another computer and then install it, dont know:P just an idea18:23
s33ki initially configured my comp in such a way that both my /home and /var load from the same partition as the partition in which / is mounted18:23
s33ki have now moved all the files of /home to a separate partition and configured my fstab to mount /home from the new partition18:23
s33ki've moved all files to the new partition but there's a .gvfs file or folder in my home dir which i am not able to move, even as root18:23
s33kit says that even the root doesn't have permission to move the file18:23
przemoReXI'd like to ask if anybody using eclipse on ubuntu 11.04 has an issue with missing side sliding bars like me18:23
tatzenblogdei trief to print with my brother-printer. problem: i installed the scanner-driver (called brscan) and wonder why it wont print o.O18:23
s33kwill there be any problem if i don't copy the .gvfs file?18:23
pcriiDr_Willis: ive rebooted several times even removed the driver and re activated it18:23
bibinougroundup: look at /var/log/dpkg.log18:23
s33khow do i fix it?18:23
pmitrosmman: The package does not include the firmware. The package downloads the firmware during the install. You have to download both the package and the firmware on another computer, and do tricks to make them work together.18:23
rgrprzemoReX: maybe ask in #eclipse18:23
Bubbblebuttrgr: Thank you, um would you know if there would possibly be any further updates that I could do so it doesnt rape my under powered netbook??18:24
rgrnot really. slim it down yourself when you know its working.18:24
pmitrosmman: Again, possible, but beyond my threshold of laziness. 11.04 appears to be, rather sadly, the most broken OS I've used in over a decade.18:24
mmanpmitros, :S ok that is bad.. im searching now for the centrino wireless -N 100018:24
rgrone thing often suggested is xfce etc but I dont recommend that route necessarily.18:24
s33kcan someone help me please18:24
przemoReXrgr: it's definitelly 11.04 isue.18:24
lollabanybody got  HP 8440p Elitebook  finger  print scanner works on ubuntu ?18:25
Guest27069ikonia: you still there?18:25
tatzenblogdes33k, which problem?18:25
rgrthe problem above18:25
mmanpmitros, I actually didnt like 11.04 either.. nauty interface (n) i changed to gnome again18:25
groundupbibinou: what exactly am I looking for? I see a lot of half-configured <package>18:25
rgrunity is gnome I was told yesterday...18:25
tatzenblogdeah, the problem with the root-partition18:25
terrys33k: What command did you use to copy the /home files to the new partition?18:25
dalton2345rgr: no its not18:25
Bubbblebuttok thanks rgr and all :)18:25
pmitrosmman: Yeah. The new interface feels like some undergrad decided to clone the Mac UI as a class project.18:25
Chrom_rgr: basically you can't drag any file to the panel, not just to the trash, because it is added to the panel instead of interacting with the relevant applet18:25
bibinougroundup: there should be an error at the end of the file18:26
terrys33k: and what exactly is the  .gfs  file?18:26
Soothsayeranyone knows a tool I could use to capture outgoing / incoming packets from a process? GUI based preferably and easy to use.18:26
rgrChrom_: dbus issues?18:26
karma_policeany have any luck hoining 10.10 to an ad-hoc network?18:26
bp0.gvfs is where fuse mounts18:26
s33kterry,  cd /home; mount /dev/sda7 /home/seek2; mv seek/* seek2/18:26
sakekasithe sound menu integration for banshee is not working in natty.18:26
bp0s33k, you can't move it while fuse is using it18:26
groundupbibinou: there's a lot like this: 2011-04-30 13:24:02 status half-configured ufw 0.30.0-1ubuntu2 2011-04-30 13:24:02 status installed ufw 0.30.0-1ubuntu218:26
Chrom_rgr: how can I say?18:26
bp0you can't move /home while logged in as a normal user18:26
mmanpmitros, yup :( i was excited for the new version, but its now what I expected... to many problems.. dont know.. :S18:26
karma_policei am trying to connect my ubuntu to my wifi teatherd android net connection18:27
pcriithe proprietary driver jockey suggests isnt working for me (activated but not currently in use) is there any alternatives i can try or suggestions to get it working properly?18:27
rgrChrom_: dmesg maybe18:27
s33kterry, .gvfs is gnome filesystem18:27
micheleitaliano18:27
rgrJust a suggestion. Same issues each time with ubuntu.18:27
terrys33k: So the /dev/sda7 partition is for /home only?18:27
pmitrosmman: It's about 98% short of being a mature, release-ready project. It doesn't work well with modalless applications, which is most of Unix apps. It doesn't work well with many graphics card drivers. It can't open two terminals from the launcher. It doesn't work right with focus-follow-the-mouse. It's just nowhere near finished18:27
s33kbp0, what is fuse mount?18:27
glaceon_can someone walk me through how to connect my devices with ssh please.... im lost and confused18:27
bibinougroundup: do you have any talking about ngnix ?18:27
rgrpmitros: shhh. The fanbois will ban you...18:27
tatzenblogdeglaceon, what did you tried?18:27
pmitrosdynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has18:27
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pmitros*** Signoff: Courz (Quit: Leaving)18:27
pmitros<rgr> powertop is real nice18:27
pmitros<Dr_Willis> ph88:  a dns server is not installed by default. so  Nope it wont.18:27
FloodBot2pmitros: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:27
wildc4rdwould someone be so kind as to remind me of the code to change the maximise/minimise etc buttons back to the right hand side after an upgrade to narwhal18:28
bp0s33k, you need to log in to "recovery mode" and move /home, you can't do it while a user is logged in18:28
terrys33k: bp0 is correct.18:28
rgryes it is18:28
Dr_Willisglaceon_:  install ssh server on one,, install ssh client on others.. ssh to the ip of the server..18:28
drseltsamwhois:bp018:28
Foloexhello world18:28
zubHi. I just upgraded to 11.04 and I see gnome-terminal now defaults to 80x22 geometry. Why is that? I can override it in settings, but I wonder where does the 80x22 come from?18:28
xangua!controls > wildc4rd18:28
glaceon_im new so i dont know what to try18:28
ubottuwildc4rd, please see my private message18:28
s33kterry, yeah... i'm planning to use /dev/sda7 for /home only18:28
Chrom_rgr: I don't think so. the drag and drop interacts with the panel indeed, but the behavior is wrong. a shortcut is added to the panel instead of interacting with the applets that are on the panel itself18:28
terrybp0: s33k But you CAN copy it.18:28
xanguaglaceon_: try to read the topic18:28
micheleentrare canale italiano18:28
csharperHas anyone upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on a parallels6 virtual machine?18:28
mmanpmitros, exactly!!! hope either they make good updates or that 11.10 will be a GOOD ubuntu18:28
Chrom_if you drag a file to the trash applet, you get the item added to the panel, and not trashed18:28
terrys33k: bp0 and then delete /home later.18:28
jbichapmitros: middle click on the Terminal button in the Launcher18:28
xangua!it | michele18:28
ubottumichele: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)18:28
tatzenblogdeglaceon, on one computer you have to install the ssh-server. use "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"18:28
jnxirc:///ferrari18:28
_Neytiri_how do i unmount a drive via cli18:28
dalton2345what??? you can't open two terminal at once????18:28
glaceon_dr_willis, I downloaded the openssh-server on this computer18:29
pmitrosShit. Sorry. Mouse fell.18:29
s33kbp0, oh cool thanks.. i'll try doing that... logging in as root in tty1 will also do right?18:29
muneebwhat you guys are  using for onscreen system monitoring? the thing which we used to have in top panel called "System Monitor"18:29
tatzenblogdeglaceon, after that you have to connect to the computer. use the ip from "ifconfig" for you network-device18:29
groundupbibinou: http://pastebin.com/tYaYR28b18:29
jbicha_Neytiri_: sudo umount filepath18:29
rgr_Neytiri_: http://www.google.de/search?q=unmount+drive+from+cli+ubuntu   my pleasure18:29
wildc4rdxangua, I know they have moved, I want to move them back18:29
bp0s33k, safest is recovery mode, you can't let anything be in use in /home18:29
jnx\j #ferrari18:29
dynoboyzhello18:30
_Neytiri_ty18:30
tatzenblogdeglaceon, go to the other computer and look if the both are in the same network (try ping IP FROM THE OTHER PC)18:30
Dr_Willisglaceon_:  so if you had another pc on the lan. you could 'ssh the.ip.of.your.server' and hafe a shell on the server.18:30
terrys33k: What  you should have done is   sudo mkdir /mnt/sda7 ; sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/sda7 ; sudo cp -ar /home /mnt/sda718:30
FoloexI have an issue with the module r8169 since I installed Natty, dmesg is filled with "r8169 [...] eth0: link up" lines. Is there a known issue and fix for this. I happens on two different computer running both the amd64 desktop version of Ubuntu 11.04.18:30
s33kterry: i mv-ed the /home folder and it worked... except for this single file18:30
dclake_I guess I will have to do a fresh install18:30
tatzenblogdeglaceon, and then you have to connect via "ssh IP FROM THE OTHER"18:30
rgrs33k: take all that advice with a large pinch of salt. They dont have to be mounted in /mnt for a start when copying the files.18:30
jbichargr: telling people they should have just googled it is like saying  rtfm which is rude18:31
rgrjbicha: I didnt, but thanks for poking your nose in.18:31
rgrI gave him the actual list of answers that are easily googled.18:31
nyogergoogle is immediately at your disposal.  specific complex help isn't18:31
terrys33k: Actually first you need to   sudo mv home/ old-home/  and then do the above.  Then change fstab entry and reboot.  If all works well, then rm -rf old-home/18:31
rgrrtfm is rude. "google this simple phrase" is not.18:31
s33kterry: why the archiving -a??18:31
nyogerpeople are human18:31
dynoboyzi need help on my partition,  I don't know how to handle files with mode 40755 when using fdisk18:31
Sledgedoes anyone know how i can stop this panel from auto hiding18:31
rgrhow to umount from a cli is not specfic or complex.18:32
terrys33k: and what exactly is the  .gfs  file?18:32
tatzenblogdeSledge, rightclick on the panel > properties and remove the cross at "autohiding"?18:32
esxSledge: first install ccsm18:32
rgrterry: that has been discussed I thought. a Fuse file.18:32
tatzenblogdeor did you mean something else o.O18:32
Sledgeccsm18:32
Sledgeok18:32
jbichargr: this channel is not just for specific, complex questions18:32
Sledgeesx,  was going to say right clicking does not work18:32
bibinougroundup: see, there is a lot of "status not-installed nginx-common <none>"18:33
damicitahow do i activate transparency as i move a window ?18:33
tatzenblogdeaaaah, i forget theres unity... sorry18:33
rgrjbicha: are you here to net nanny or help? I ask because I am in the process of contributing constructively to about three threads.18:33
terrys33k: ls -l .gfs18:33
xangua!ccsm | damicita18:33
ubottudamicita: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz18:33
rgronce again : suggesting people google simple Qs is not rtfm18:33
groundupbibinou: yeah, I don't know how to tell it stop trying to install that until I can figure out why I can't install nginx-common18:33
terrys33k: file .gfs18:33
kostashello, i use 11.04 desktop and I am trying to export VPN settings. When I am to save the file I get an unknown error. Does anybody know why?18:33
Sledgeesx, already installed.18:33
s33kterry, thats .gvfs.... i googled it to find that is a gnome virtual file system18:33
damicitathank you18:33
Sledgetatzenblogde,  since the upgrade right clicking on the panel's does nothing.18:33
phunyguyhello... anyone in here using XChat?  How the heck do I get it to go into the unity panel and stay there when minimized?18:34
ph88the ubuntu software server listed some DHCP frontend ---- awesome !18:34
hihihi100i finally upgraded to 11.04, what do I have to do to see applications and the other 2 menus without leaving unity?18:34
rgrhihihi100: see applications?18:34
Dr_Willistheres some movehome factoid i recall18:34
Dr_Willis!movehome18:34
ubottuYour home directory is where all of your personal files are usually kept. For moving your home directory to a separate partition, please see: http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome18:34
sakekasiI have the sound menu integration plugin installed in banshee and I have the option checked in settings yet there is no banshee entry in my sound menu in natty.18:34
esxSledge: unity settings are under desktop18:34
tatzenblogdeSledge, yes, sorry - i forget. i'm using kde and foret that the uppgrade from normal ubuntu has more changes than the kubuntu-version18:34
glaceon_Dr_willis, everytime i try to connect it comes back with connect refused18:34
hihihi100rgr, no18:34
s33kterry, ls -la .gvfs displays the following: ?------- ? ? ..gvfs18:35
jbichahihihi100: Click the Ubuntu button in the top left corner18:35
rgrglaceon_: did you set up ssh keys?18:35
terrys33k: ls -l .gfs > gfs-info ; file .gfs >> gfs-info ; pastebinit gfs-info ; rm gfs-info18:35
_Neytiri_is there a tutorial on how to make a raid array during instualtion?18:35
bibinougroundup: seems like you use a ppa, try to contact the ppa maintener18:35
s33keven as root i don't have permissions to edit the file18:35
nach0zHey i've got a question for yall. When aptitude is "resolving dependencies" it says "open: # closed: # defer:#" what do these mean?18:35
jbichas33k: are you trying to edit a directory? you can only edit files18:36
rgr_Neytiri_: yes there is.18:36
glaceon_rgr, i dont know how to do that18:36
kostasAnything about VPN export???18:36
jdummyI noticed that the download page for ubuntu shows "32-bit (recommended) in their dropdown.  I've got a 64 bit machine.  Should I still get the 32 bit version?18:36
hihihi100ok, found it in the right side column, but I want to see all my aps as they were classified by me, I even created some folders and grouped them, I dont see that now, just all my aps ordered by alphabetical order18:36
sakekasiI have the sound menu integration plugin installed in banshee and I have the option checked in settings yet there is no banshee entry in my sound menu in natty.18:36
phunyguyok let me ask a new question.  what IRC client integrates best with ubuntu and unity?18:36
rgrglaceon_: no, you need to read the tutorials and man pages.18:36
hihihi100how do I leave unity?18:36
Sledgeesx, desktop ? what do you mean?18:36
olabandolahow to get my hp un2400 module work in ubuntu 11.04 ?18:36
terrys33k: chmod 777 .gfs18:36
xangua!best | phunyguy18:36
ubottuphunyguy: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.18:36
jbichajdummy: you can use the 64-bit version, some computers can't do the 64 version18:36
stefg_Neytiri_: the Desktop installer does not support raid-installs. you either need the alternate CD or make a single disk install and migrate that to a raid array later.18:37
glaceon_rgr, where are the tutorials?18:37
esxSledge: run ccsm and click on the destop category on the left hand side18:37
rgrglaceon_: ssh isnt trivial when you start. And you need to be sure you do it properly or you will leave your sytsem open.18:37
phunyguythis isnt an opinion based question, ubottu18:37
jdummyjbicha: thanks18:37
terrys33k: is this .gfs file something you really need?18:37
rgrglaceon_: guess. The internet.18:37
phunyguyso let me ask it a different way.18:37
phunyguywhat IRC client integrates AT ALL with unity18:37
phunyguythe reason i ask is because this one doesnt, at all.18:37
stefg_Neytiri_: what do you want to do specificaly?18:37
rgrglaceon_: http://www.google.de/search?&q=ubuntu+ssh18:37
esxSledge: then click ubuntu unity plugin18:37
jbichaphunyguy: Empathy is installed by default but doesn't do as well at IRC, I used to use Pidgin but now use irssi18:38
rgrssh is really great and worth mstering.18:38
oCeanrgr: don't suggest google here, thanks18:38
phunyguyirssi, thanks18:38
przemoReXhas anybody noticed that i 11.04 classic one cant slide buttons in window list bottom bar as it used to be? is there any way to enable it back?18:38
rgroCean: please re-read.18:38
phunyguyis it decent at least?18:38
kostashihihi100, logoff, select ubuntu classic and logon again and you ll be in the old classic thing.18:38
oCeanrgr: people already know about google, so dont suggest it here. thanks.18:38
rgrI gave him the correct google string. UNless you think here is the place to list the entire how to on setting ssh up.18:38
hihihi100kostas, do you see any advantage in the unity desktop?18:38
rgroCean: clearly they dont.18:38
hihihi100if so, please share18:38
SledgeCool18:38
Sledgethanks18:38
esxSledge: then use the hide launcher dropbox to change from dodge windows to never18:38
oCeanrgr: yeas we have well equipped factoids for that18:39
ohsixprzemoReX: that's a bug in compiz, it sucks; you need to restart it at the moment18:39
shcherbakrgr: There is better: man ssh18:39
ohsixrgr: don't tell people to google18:39
rgrthat is not better for a noob18:39
esxSledge: welcome.18:39
rgrssh is mire complex than just the ssh comman itself.18:39
oCeanrgr: yes it is, since it points to clearly written documentation/tuturials etc.18:39
ohsixrgr: if you are not going to personally instruct them, then don't offer any advice18:39
przemoReXohsix: I have restarted it but still no sliding18:39
rgrit needs to be thought about and planned and in conjunction with things like gpg-agent or seahorse etc.18:39
phunyguyyeah, don't be /that/ guy  :P18:39
olabandolais there any possibles to get a hp un2400 module that handles my integrated mobile broadband work in ubuntu 11.0418:39
terry!google18:40
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.18:40
ohsixprzemoReX: hm, that's all i've had to do; it breaks drag & drop on the panels too18:40
rgrohsix: we discussed you butting in yesterday when you were incorrect about xorg.conf.18:40
s33kjbache: is it a directory?? i have no idea cuz it doesn't say anything specific in ls -la18:40
kostasI did n't like it from the begining so I left it. You have to ask somebody else that had work with it.18:40
s33kterry: as i said you earlier, the root doesn't have permission to edit it18:40
s33kterry: i have no idea.... since it is a gnome vfs, i don't want my lap to crash because of it after removing the original dir18:40
cfc_{Pawpad}hi ppl18:40
cfc_{Pawpad}i need some help explaining something18:40
ohsixrgr: you have an exceptional case and you don't except that, i said that if you mean that it is still read if it is present you are correct18:40
rgrglaceon : here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys18:40
ohsixrgr: but it is highly deprecated and you should never have to edit it, in your case you have to; that's a shame18:40
JoshDreamlandHave the flames died down yet?18:41
przemoReXohsix: so that means I can't configure it in any way, except to just wait for bug fix18:41
terrys33k: chmod 777 .gfs/18:41
ohsixrgr: you should talk to your gpu driver vendor18:41
kostashihihi100. I just upgraded to 11.04 yesterday!18:41
cfc_{Pawpad}$ sudo locale-gen LANG1 LANG2 LANG3 why dose it say 1 2 and 3?18:41
LjLrgr: three people in the last five minutes have questioned the way you offer help, don't you think maybe they could have a point? :\18:41
phunyguyso was this an oversight by canonical, not adding a decent IRC client to 11.04?18:41
phunyguyjust curious18:41
ohsixprzemoReX: there are some bugs on launchpad about it, but i haven't looked too closely, restarts have been good enough for my use18:41
newb_I want report a bug for do-release-upgrade program, but I'm unable to find his package to report with ubuntu-bug. In what package this file is?18:41
s33kterry: i can't try it at the moment, i'll have to login in the recovery mode as bp0 said... i'll try it out and get back18:41
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rgrno. Please re-read them piggy backing and then what I actually said and not what they are claiming. I didt just send people to google. I providied working search queries and solid links.18:41
terrys33k: and then   mv .gfs/ /home/were/ever/it/is/supposed/to/go18:41
ohsixprzemoReX: it's been mentioned that it might have something to do with the panel being restarted after compiz; but that's as far as i've seen people looking18:42
esxphunyguy: sudo apt-get install irssi18:42
phunyguyi know how to install it.18:42
rgrand the google was one in ten help replies.18:42
phunyguywas just curious why something like an IRC client was left out.18:42
esxphunyguy: then why mention it?18:42
oCeannewb_: it's update-manager-core package18:42
ohsixrgr: google returns different results for different people, if you have something in mind for them to read; google yourself and provide it directly, they will not find it no matter how specific the query18:42
shcherbakphunyguy: xchat, irssi, pidgin (or other nonsense) all more....18:42
xanguaphunyguy: empathy is an irc client18:42
stefgphunyguy: have a look at your indicator applet ...18:42
xanguaand it comes installed*18:42
newb_oCean: Thanks!18:42
phunyguyxangua, amd shcherbak, xchat doesnt come installed, empathy i was just told didnt work right, and there is no other client installed18:43
zetsuboukittehhello, I'm having trouble with installing deadbeef (http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/) by adding the ppa and installing18:43
przemoReXohsix: thanx I'll follow what's on launchpad18:43
phunyguyTHATS why i ask.18:43
olabandolahello can someone help me with get my intergrated mobile broadband to wrk18:43
Sledgeuh oh18:43
karma_policeis there a way to join an ad-hock network with ubuntu?18:43
mastroI am in the process of choosing a laptop for work... I'll install ubuntu on it and I do not want any issue with video, audio, touchpad / whatever.. hibernate and standby should work with no issue. I need at least 4 gb ram, better if more and I want a battery that last for 3 or more hours at least.... any suggestion? (brand / model)18:43
JoshDreamlandWhere can I go to make my voice heard? Or do we have to wait for the BDFL of Ubuntu to decide he hates 11.04, too?18:43
ohsixkarma_police: join it :]18:43
phunyguyi will try empathy for myself.  Thanks18:43
zetsuboukitteh"E: unable to locate package deadbeef"18:44
stefgolabandola: first wind out what make and model it is. lspci / lsusb will tell you that18:44
shcherbakphunyguy: Well, installing from repos does take minute, at most: sudo apt-get install irssi18:44
ohsixkarma_police: though it did not work well for me until 10.10, what version are you using?18:44
phunyguyshcherbak, nevermind.18:44
xangua!hardware | mastro18:44
ubottumastro: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection18:44
mastro(i'll use the laptop for development on java environment)18:44
karma_policewhen i try to join at acts as if there is incorret pw18:44
karma_police10,1018:44
terrylmX, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x18:45
arand_JoshDreamland: Many like 11.04 as well, if you have specific issues report bugs for those.18:45
karma_policei'm using 10.10 and am trying to access my wifi teatherd android 4g net connection... it works in windoze but cant get it working in ubuntu18:46
phunyguyOK, empathy works fine.  who said it doesn't?18:46
phunyguythanks guys.18:46
kcin1is  ports.ubuntu.com the only ports repository?18:46
JoshDreamlandarand_: That sounds evil and otherwise nefarious. I'll do it!18:46
xanguaphunyguy: no one18:46
stefg.mastro: either get an ubuntu preloaded one from companies like system76 or (in case you live in a country they don't deliver to) consider a thinkpad R/L/T-series... it's the de facto standard18:46
xanguait's just limited phunyguy18:46
olabandola@stefg  http://pastebin.com/RhiJ9PgV18:47
donpdonpinstalling mysql-server did not create an /etc/init.d/mysqld file - how should the server be started?18:47
stefgolabandola: wait a sec...18:47
Kratoshi guys, i have a problem trying to use backtrack is anyone up to help?18:47
karma_policeanyone have any suggestions on tethering  android phones with ubuntu?18:47
LjL!backtrack | Kratos18:47
ubottuKratos: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition18:47
arand_JoshDreamland: Though of course you shouldn't report bugs that are simply opinions, those could go in the forums, or the mailing lists, or reformulated into ideas for improvements, rather.18:48
ohsixkarma_police: i connect to my phone all the time; it's rooted with wifi tethering though18:48
snowrichardkarma_police,  I didn't have any problem with my htc aria and usb tethering with 10.10. Not tried it in 11.04 yet18:48
karma_policemine is rooted with barnacle wifi18:48
JoFoHello everybody. I've just updated my Karmic to Natty. The menus have disappeared. How could I add a new keyboard driver? Where's Gnome keyboard manager?18:48
Crazy1everyone ,is time to sleep18:48
ohsixi don't know what barnacle wifi is18:48
JoshDreamlandarand_: Where does the fact that their beautiful scroll bar idea cost me the ability to quick-scroll with middle mouse button go?18:48
stefgolabandola: i guess the avagotech device is it18:48
Kratosim having problems booting bt4 on usb18:48
ohsixthat'd be the place i'd look first for problems18:48
karma_policei'm using 10.10 with a htc g1 and barnacle wifi tether18:49
IdleOne!backtrack | Kratos18:49
ubottuKratos: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition18:49
ohsixKratos: backtrack isn't supported here18:49
oCeanJoshDreamland: did you just came in here to rant, or do you have actual support question?18:49
karma_policeit works fine on win7 but cannot access using ubuntu18:49
JoshDreamlandoCean: To be honest, mostly to rant.18:49
PierewojHello, I am kind of new to Ubuntu, I was using my previous ubuntu for programming (had to install some additional libraries like image magick and boost) and after I came back, I installed new Ubuntu 11 and my wifi somehow stopped working. If someone could help me with that, please PM18:49
Kratoswhere can i go18:49
xangua BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)18:49
mastrostefg, lenovo?18:49
JoshDreamlandUnless you can tell me how to revert my scroll bars.18:49
snowrichardi didn't have to root my phone to use the tethering - its part of froyo 2.2.218:49
stefgmastro: right18:49
oCeanJoshDreamland: In that case, please choose a different channel18:49
ohsixPierewoj: broadcom or atheros?18:49
xanguaJoshDreamland: i saw a guide in omg!ubuntu! blog18:49
Sledgei cant even get ALT+F218:50
Sledgeunity panel is gone18:50
JoshDreamlandxangua: Thanks much; I'll give it a look.18:50
Pierewojlet me check it18:50
olabandolastefg: thats possible , i havent load the module inside of windows , thats hp connection manager that handles that , i have read something about that i have to load the firmware inside windows and then copy the firmware files in ubuntu and use gobi_loader to load them18:50
karma_policei hate using windoze.. this is the only alternative since i tether my g118:50
Pierewojits my mothers notebook so... :P18:50
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FloodBot2Ultimate_Chaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:50
* Ultimate_Chaos hugs [thor]18:50
stefgolabandola: but it could as well be the wlan. Tell about the hardware: what make/model, is the WAN-Adapter internal or is it a stick?18:51
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pattysmattyljl18:53
muneebwhat to use for onscreen system monitoring? the applet which we had in panel in Ubuntu 10.10 and below18:53
pattysmattywhats ur job at ubuntu?18:53
jribhe makes cookies18:53
Pierewojoshix, do you see my msgs?18:53
pattysmattywhat kind?18:53
Pierewojohsix18:53
LjLpattysmatty: i don't work for Ubuntu18:53
xangua!ot | pattysmatty18:54
ubottupattysmatty: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:54
antiherohow do I make read only doc files readable in libreoffice?18:54
kostasanybody knows about vpn export unknown error?18:54
IdleOnemuneeb: there is a PPA with indicator-sysmonitor http://ppa.launchpad.net/alexeftimie/ppa/ubuntu/18:54
olabandolastefg_ thanks for helping , its a hp compaq mini 700 xx and its a wwan integrated besides the battery , i put off the battery and then stick in the simcard and then hp connection manager handles the connection and load the firmware ... is there any command to get exakt hardware spec in ubuntu ?18:54
Pierewojohsix: It's atheros18:54
terryantihero: You mean writable?18:54
muneebthanks IdleOne18:54
p_ahujahi can anybody provide me help on  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074532018:54
antiheroterry: Yeah18:55
_Neytiri_is there a tutorial on how to make a raid array during installation?18:55
antiheroSorry, I'm rather hung over18:55
terryantihero: If you mean writable, open a terminal and do chmod +w  file-name.doc18:55
IdleOne!raid18:55
ubottuTips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto18:55
katsrcwhy do we need firefox globalmenu?18:55
pattysmattyis chrome version for linux that u dl via google page same as the chromium that you dl via apt-get chromium???18:55
antiheroterry: It's a property of the document, not on the filesystem18:55
antiheroI think I've figured it out though18:56
tiagoboldtso, I'm having major issues with my wifi module, read in launchpad that fix has been commited to the kernel and will be released on the next update, any idea when will that happen? on natty18:56
antiheronot sure how, I just clicked on stuff and now it's readable18:56
antihero*writable18:56
IdleOnepattysmatty: no. chrome from google is based off chromium-browser18:56
terryantihero: ok, very good.18:56
pattysmattyidleone,which one is better?18:56
p_ahujaI am unable to install any .sh file on natty18:56
ikoniap_ahuja: whats the isse18:57
ikoniaissue18:57
antlerpattysmatty: neither. both are unstable imo18:57
IdleOnepattysmatty: they work the same in my opinion.18:57
stefgolabandola: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Compaq%20Mini%20700EL makes me optimistic... does normal wlan work out-of-the box?18:57
p_ahujaikonia:  check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=1074532018:57
ohsixpattysmatty: the one that's packaged is better in my opinion, as it will be updated and stuff :D18:57
pattysmattyff4 is unstable18:57
p_ahujaikonia:  I have posted that18:57
ikoniap_ahuja: no, just explain the problem18:57
LjLpattysmatty: i'll stay with chromium-browser myself, because they're pretty much equivalent and i'm not eager to use something proprietary when there's the same thing available as open source. also, one of the main things that Chrome adds is automatic updates from Google, but those are useless in Ubuntu since it gets updated by the package manager18:57
p_ahujaikonia:  Okay18:57
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antiheroterry: Thanks18:57
terryantihero: NP18:58
pattysmattywouldn't you guys agree that ff4 is still unstable?18:58
p_ahujaikonia:  During execution of the program terminal stucks at "Starting Installation Wizard" and no wizard comes up ever18:58
LjL!ot18:58
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:58
ikoniap_ahuja: no18:58
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antlerdon't you guys have problems with both chrome and chromium hanging on many, many pages?18:58
ikoniap_ahuja: sorry, not you18:58
pattysmattyaww18:58
Pierewojplease someone help me with my wireless connection on new ubuntu 11, it doesng work after installing ubuntu 11 (its atheros)18:58
IdleOnepattysmatty: that is off topic for this channel.18:58
pattysmattyhow do I add ff4 to auto updates?18:59
ikoniap_ahuja: what are you trying to install18:59
ikoniapattysmatty: when a new ubuntu package is released (updated) you will be offered it18:59
p_ahujaikonia:  netbeans 7.018:59
ohsixpattysmatty: ff4 is already auto updated like any other package18:59
ikoniap_ahuja: ok - so what else isn't installing as you said you can't install "any .sh" files, and your describing one .sh file18:59
xangua!fx4 > pattysmatty if you mean install on lucd/maverick18:59
ubottupattysmatty, please see my private message18:59
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pattysmattyspeak of the devil, right hwen i said that i looked at update manager... and fresh ff4 updates are here... 16 mb worth19:00
notbdoes ubuntu 11.04 's ffmpeg come with h264 support builtin ?19:00
frithweird dragging windows is really slow,19:00
p_ahujayeah i was trying one program  that is jdk 619:00
cfc_{Pawpad}what do i type to get updates on a ubuntu server??19:00
terryPierewoj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=174223119:00
LjLcfc_{Pawpad}: if you want to do it entirely from CLI, "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"19:01
ikoniacfc_{Pawpad}: sudo apt-get update brings your list up to date, sudo apt-get upgrade updates the packages19:01
xanguacfc_{Pawpad}: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade19:01
msteftested 11.04 via thumbdrive - unity loaded fine. just upgraded and now it says i don't have the hardward for it. what can i do?19:01
olabandolastefg: everything works just absolute fine including wlan , theres is no lan port so i have to use a lan adapter to get local network , and that also works out of the box , its just that mobile brodband i want to get working when iam away so i can remove windows from the computer19:01
necreois there still something like netbook remix for 11.04, or is it just the regular ubuntu?19:01
Sledgeok muneeb i figured out how to login what was that dpkg command again?19:01
p_ahujaikonia:  i also tried netbeans setup bundled with jdk6. same problem19:01
icerootcfc_{Pawpad}: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   (not only upgrade)19:01
ikoniap_ahuja: may have to contact the .sh file owner/support then if it's just that one19:01
Pierewojterry: thanks, hope it will work19:01
xanguanecreo: you can use ubuntu on netbooks19:01
terrynecreo: Far as I'm concerned it is, (but I'm not concerned :)19:01
muneebSledge,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity19:01
LjL!unr | necreo19:01
ubottunecreo: Starting with Ubuntu 11.04, the Ubuntu Netbook Edition is no longer being offered as a separate install as Unity is now standard for all Ubuntu desktop installs.19:01
Sledgemuneeb,  thanks19:01
p_ahujaikonia: but its working fine on my PC with 10.1019:02
notbdoes ubuntu 11.04 's ffmpeg come with h264 support builtin ?19:02
ikoniap_ahuja: you're not using 10.10 though, so that's not relevant19:02
olabandolastefg : i need to go away for some minutes , can i start a private chat with you then , that makes it easier for me to get help ?19:02
ikonianotb: I don't believe so19:02
notbikonia, how can i be sure ?19:02
ikonianotb: try to encode something ? check the libraries19:02
stefgolabandola: give me dmesg to pastebin and read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100820019:02
terryLjL: Tnx info19:02
p_ahujaikonia:  but that clears file is correct.19:02
necreook, so it is default, will it automatically default to the 2D unity interface? or will it try compiz?19:02
dios_mioguys, i use a mirror for updates, a mirror in my country.. but i wonder if the updates reach the mirrors just as fast?19:02
ikoniap_ahuja: no it doesn't, it means that file works with ubuntu 10.10 - that you're not using, so it's not relevant19:03
notbk, nm, i see19:03
icerootdios_mio: yes19:03
Guest91212hi. How can I know wtf is doing the installer ? it is saying it needs to download packages during one hour ! wtf ! it has already donwloaded the language package19:03
ikoniaGuest91212: you can stop using phrases like "wtf" please19:03
LjLnecreo: uhm i don't think Unity 2D is included yet... it will default to the 3D version. it works on some? most? all? netbooks...19:03
tiagoboldtdios_mio, they land on the main server and are synced to the mirrors with the frequency that the admins update them19:03
p_ahujaikonia:  okay can you send me a link of any working sh file (small) on natty. i try that19:03
terryGuest91212: You'll just have to be patient, the servers are still over-loaded today.19:04
tiagoboldtdios_mio, that's usually less than a day, probably less than an hour19:04
ikoniap_ahuja: no19:04
Sledgemuneeb, still didnt work..19:04
Lierahow can I add more workspace in unity?19:04
p_ahujaokay any name19:04
ikoniap_ahuja: no19:04
Guest91212terry what packages does it needs ?19:04
necreoLjL: ok thanks, I would still prefer the 2D version, want to get most out of it19:04
terryGuest91212: I don't knwo.19:05
muneebSledge, on which screen are you on? virtual terminal?19:05
terry*know19:05
LjL!info unity-2d | necreo, well it's there19:05
ubottunecreo, well it's there: unity-2d (source: unity-2d): Unity interface for non-accelerated graphics cards. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.4.1-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 7 kB, installed size 124 kB19:05
rgrIts a really really bad idea doing the equivalent of a net install on release week.19:05
LjLnecreo: i have no idea how "ready" it is, but it's there. you can also choose Classical login from the login screen19:05
terryrgr: Well said.19:05
miranda_tem algum brasileiro ai??19:06
necreowhich is the gnome 2.X interface19:06
LjL!br | miranda_19:06
ubottumiranda_: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.19:06
miranda_ALGUM BRASILEIRO?19:06
LjLmiranda_: ^19:06
JoFoHelp! How can I access to the keyboard manager with Natty?19:06
escottJoFo, hit the unity icon and type in keyboard. is it one of those19:06
olabandolastefg : i need to leave for ten minutes , can i start a private chat with you then to make it easier for me to work ?19:06
p_ahujaiBut can any one figure out what the problem could be as one of irc users had tried it on natty too19:07
stefgolabandola: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008200 has all the info. Sorry, no pm19:07
JoFoescott:  Where is the Unity icon ?19:07
necreoon a seemingly unrelated note: sometimes unity on my laptop is choppy and I got weird shadow artefacts (binary nvidia driver), however I never get the impression my GPU is being used for Unity, how can I check this?19:07
escottJoFo, top left of the screen19:07
p_ahujaarand_: dear can you please tell me that if netbeans worked on yours Natty or not19:08
yfkhow can I remove the workspace switcher from the unity launcher?19:08
escottnecreo, glxinfo will tell you what glx driver you are using19:08
JoFoescott:  That's it. Thanks.19:08
mastrostefg, ah.. Lenovo seems too expensive for my company :/ What about Dell Vostro? I haven't seen one in Ubuntu compatibility list19:08
andeeeukdoes alt-tab still work in 11.04?19:08
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arand_p_ahuja: The install started fine, I haven't actually treid starting it.19:09
Sledgemuneeb,  if i do ctrl alt f2, it takes me to a black screen and i can't figure out how to get back to chat once i get in there19:09
Sledgemuneeb,  black login screen..19:09
Zorlinanyone know how to enable menus and so on in my seperate X screen (nvidia)?19:09
rgrSledge: C-a-f7 probably19:09
muneebSledge, ctrl+alt+f719:09
rach0Sledge, ctr+alt+f719:09
p_ahujaarand_:  thanks.... ikonia  see dear its running on natty19:09
speedyHere is some startup features to get Natty up and running  >>>  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html19:09
Sledgemuneeb,  ok well.. i did the command and still i have nothing19:09
rach0Sledge, startx maybe19:10
Sledgemuneeb,  ok yes that worked.19:10
mstefjust upgraded to 11.04..unity worked fine when testing off a thumb drive.. after the upgrade, got a message about my hardward not meeting the requirements.. and no unity.. what can be done?19:10
Sledgei can go back and forth now from terminal and GUI19:10
mstefmy hardward clearly works fine19:10
muneebSledge, did you get Login screen?19:10
Sledgemuneeb,  yes19:11
stefgmastro: i don't know. i just wanted to let you know that a lot of developers run thinkads, there is huge community support for them so its the most hassle free notebook to run linux on.  Lenovo is quitting the R-series, maybe you can find one on sale19:11
muneebSledge, GUI Login Screen?19:11
Sledgemuneeb,  i executed the command dpkg-reconfigure, no terminal19:11
rgrmstef: you paste in into pastebin the detailed message you actually got indicating what HW is deemed not to work for a start. People cant not guess.19:11
speedyThings to do afteru get natty up and completing updated you can apply some of these features >> http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/04/things-to-do-after-installing-new.html19:12
rgrstefg: ++ on thinkpads. Asus run debian well too so I guess probably Ubuntu too.19:12
RaikiaUh....ubuntu just logged me out for no reason at all.  While I was working.... Does anyone know why this might happen?19:12
muneebSledge, you have to execute that command on ctrl+alt+f1 i.e. virtual terminal then reboot and try loging in19:12
Sledgei figured that command sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity would get me back to default, but still no change in the GUI19:12
mstefrgr, there is no message about the hardware in specifics.. it just says that you don;t have the right hardawrd to run unity..yet it worked fine off the thumb drive19:12
aptidude_If I have a current installation with a separate partition for home and do the install that says completely erase Ubuntu will it only erase the root partition? or does that completely format the whole disk?19:12
donpdonpis there a way to get the CPU monitor applet back in the top bar?19:12
rgrSledge: no. That does nothing whatsoever unless you put in defaults again.19:13
J_Rey*sigh*19:13
rgrmstef: nothing in the logs?19:13
J_Reyso I found https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/installation-guide/i386/graphical.html but its not too helpful19:13
Sledgergr, so could you please tell me how to put in the defaults?19:13
xanguadonpdonp: there is a cpu monitor 'indicator'19:13
RaikiaUh....ubuntu just logged me out for no reason at all.  While I was working.... Does anyone know why this might happen?19:13
mstefrgr, i don;t know where to find that19:13
zzecooldonpdonp,19:13
zzecoolyes19:13
donpdonpxangua: how would i set that up?19:13
kopeGHello, I'm installing uuntu 11.04. The installation wizard hangs on the keyboard layout. what should i do?19:13
zzecoolwait a sec19:13
rgrmstef: possibly dmesg. /var/log/syslog. google up the details for Ubuntu system logging.19:14
xanguahttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/19:14
zzecooldonpdonp, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html19:14
muneebrgr does Sledge has to execute that compiz --replace command?19:14
mastrostefg, thank you.. i'd like to buy one.. but they say it's too expensive :) will be next time19:14
zzecoolread this article19:14
J_ReyI'm trying to install 10.10 from LiveCD but after clicking Install Ubuntu I get an unrecoverable error19:14
Sledgemuneeb,  i did .. didnt work19:14
rgrmuneeb: I dont know.19:14
donpdonpzzecool, xangua: thank you!!19:14
Sledgeprobably compiz-- replace19:14
Sledgeyes19:14
Sledgei think i had this problem before19:14
J_Reyit opens a desktop session then after that19:14
rgr"doesnt work" is not a lot to go on.19:14
p_ahujaanybody who could figure out the problem19:15
J_Reyso would it be recommended to install from CLI or try the Graphical Installer again?19:15
sushemsu are there proprietary drivers for on board video for my toshiba laptop on my ubuntu 10.1019:15
Sledgergr, i was in ccsm and i canged some settings and conflicts were popping up left and right with desktop cube, and now all of a sudden i cannot run any programs with alt+f2, the unity panel's are gone and im left with nothing but a desktop19:15
muneebSledge, try changing to classic then switch to Unity again19:15
Sledgemuneeb,  the problem is i cannot run CCSM19:15
muneebSledge, well that's strange!!19:16
rgrswitching back and forther wont remove his defaults. He needs top reinstall his default config files.19:16
joe_happyhey so i play world of warcfraft in ubuntu, but sice i upgraded it to 11.04 its been kind of acting up , like whenever i click on an icon in game the camera just goes flying around and ends up pointing up and stays there19:16
escottSledge, did compiz/unity crash. you could try restarting from a terminal if you can access one19:17
J_Reysushemsu: if its binary then likely no where you'd have to download & install later19:17
rgrp_ahuja: what problem? I saw one of the "regs" telling you 10.10 was not relevant but missed what went before.19:17
Sledgeescott the only thing i can access now is virtual terminal19:17
madsyI'd like to buy an external video recorder. Any recommendations that is guaranteed to work with Ubuntu over USB or Firewire?19:17
kopeGHello, I'm installing uuntu 11.04. The installation wizard hangs on the keyboard layout (hour glass + grayed 'back' & 'forward' + "Ready when you are" since 20 minutes). what should i do?19:17
muneebSledge, reinstall unity and ccsm19:17
count0nz!wine bug19:17
Sledgesudo apt-get install unity ?19:18
muneebSledge, sudo apt-get purge unity ccsm19:18
rgrmadsy: what SW do you intend to use with it out of curiosity? most SW i looked at for use with video editing on my Linux desktop was simple awful.19:18
rach0Sledge, sudo apt-get install -reinstall ccsm19:18
p_ahujargr: I was trying to install Netbeans 7.0. During execution of the program terminal stucks at "Starting Installation Wizard" and no wizard comes up ever19:18
escottSledge, have you tried logging out and starting a new session?19:18
Sledgeescott,  yes19:18
J_ReykopeG: see https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/installation-guide/index.html19:18
muneebSledge, then sudo apt-get install unity ccsm19:18
madsyrgr: Cinerella if possible.19:19
p_ahujargr:  I am using Natty19:19
escottSledge, or nuke the .compiz/config folder19:19
J_Reyok blah blah blah19:19
escottrather .config/compiz19:19
J_ReyI'll figure it another day19:19
multi_ioin unity, how can I turn off the super+<number> shortcuts for starting applications from the side panel?19:19
escottmulti_io, probably in ccsm19:20
kostasI setup a VPN connection and I want to save settings. There is an export button  in the dialog box. When I press it a dialog box appears to save the file. When I confirm file name I get an unknown error. Anybody help???19:20
madsyrgr: But I don't plan to do a lot of editing anyway. I just want to record my desktop in HD without botching my processor.19:20
RealOp!upgrade19:21
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade19:21
kopeGHello, I'm installing ubuntu 11.04. The installation wizard hangs on the keyboard layout (hour glass + grayed 'back' & 'forward' + "Ready when you are" since 20 minutes). what should i do?19:21
p_ahujargr:  so what do you think could be the error19:21
rgrmadsy: yeah, most of the screen capture utils for X are pretty rubbish : especially with xmonad as a WM. Did you find any decent annottion SW by any chance for adding text to a screen capture?19:22
rgrp_ahuja: your java version?19:22
p_ahujargr:  image is at http://www.itspriyank.com/Screenshot.png19:22
p_ahujargr:  I am using the pack bundled with java jdk619:22
rgrdid you not install as root?19:23
escottkopeG, could you hotplug a usb keyboard?19:23
rgrI dont know I must admit.19:23
Sledgesaid unable to locate package CCSM19:23
ayrtoni upgraded to 11.04  but it looks awful, how do i get it to look like original ubuntu again ?19:23
multi_ioescott: it's not in the "keyboard shortcuts" settings.19:23
d3tourHey guys, I have just upgraded to 11.04 (switched to gnome 3 from unity but other than that a pretty basic install) and I am playing around with the screen recording for the first time. Can someone point me in the right direction for saving the recordings in a fileformat other than .webm?19:23
p_ahujargr:  was that for me "did you not install as root?"19:23
escottmulti_io, don't know then. its not designed to be as configurable as gnome219:24
madsyrgr: As I mentioned, I use Cinerella when I need to edit video. Nothing else (for Linux) comes close in my opinion.19:24
* rgr wonders why anyone would upgrade to a new version whose mainclaim is a totally different look and feel without first checking it...19:24
muellid3tour: you could use smth like istanbul or recordmydesktop19:24
rgrah yes19:24
ohsixmadsy: unfortunately your ability to record your desktop relies heavily on the DAMAGE support in your video drivers, and some are very poor19:24
ohsixrgr: wonder somewhere else.19:24
escottd3tour, what program are you using to record?19:24
Sledgemuneeb,  it said it was unable to locate package ccsm19:24
p_ahujargr:  sorry but no19:24
muelliescott: gnoem-shell19:24
madsyohsix: Indeed. That's exactly why I want to stream video to an external device instead. Which was my initial question here.19:25
ohsixmadsy: what screen recorders have you tried?19:25
Sledgemuneeb,  ccsm is only the manageing GUI applette im sure compiz needs to be reinstalled anyway19:25
d3tourescott: I am just using whatever comes with it.19:25
madsyohsix: All of them.19:25
stravantIs there any other volume control applet I can get than gnome-volume-control? Gnome-volume control is instantly re-muting itself when I try to unmute it. I now have reason to believe it's a bug in gnome-volume-control, since I tried it again this morning and it work one time... until I close gnome-volume control and it went back to being muted and now I can't make it work again.19:25
ohsixmadsy: so you've tried vnc2swf?19:25
rgrd3tour: if you want to really impress your friends use ffmpeg too ...19:25
d3tourmuelli: So just use a different app?19:25
rach0Sledge, sudo apt-get install -reinstall compiz19:25
p_ahujargr:  could it be problamatic19:25
rgrrach0: thats doesnt replace config files19:25
ohsixmadsy: and istanbul?19:26
muneebSledge, sudo ap-get install simple-ccsm19:26
muellid3tour: yes. I don't know how to modify the GStreamer Pipeline that is used to create that webm video. Dunno even if it's easily possible. It should be by writing a plugin thuogh.19:26
AlecTaylorhi19:26
madsyohsix: I havne't tried vnc2swf, but istanbul yes19:26
d3tourAlright. Thank you all for your help!19:26
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rgrwriting a plugin ... or, just maybe, use another app ...19:26
ohsixSledge: ccsm is in the compizconfig-settings-manager package19:26
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ohsixand there are no global compiz options, they are all stored in your user session so reinstalling is going to do nothing19:27
madsyohsix: But it doesn't really matter much which software I use. Recording in 1280x800 is too work intensive for my laptop.19:27
AlecTaylorI've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?19:27
muneebSledge, sorry it's compizconfig-settings-manager19:27
ohsixmadsy: odd19:27
rach0Sledge, sudo apt-get purge compiz ccsm and then sudo apt-get install compiz ccsm19:27
madsyohsix: The best solution would be to record from my DVI port with an external device19:27
stravantohsix: Do you remember the sound problem from yesterday? This morning I was playing with it and it worked for some reason, but broke again when I closed gnome-volume control. Would I be right in assuming that almost certainly means it's a bug in gnome-volume control?19:27
ohsixmadsy: if you can find something that does that, yes :]19:27
BKTech86I installed Windows 7 on /dev/sda5, successfully reinstalled grub, but grub doesn't detect the windows7 installation there19:28
BKTech86how can i fix this?19:28
ohsixmadsy: but you can help recording a lot by disabling compositing and stuff like compiz before you do it19:28
Froqdoes anyone know of an IRC client that I can transfer over SSH with the x11 command so I have the interface & all?19:28
rgrstravant: you would be silly to assume that. It could still be one of many things not least inter process messaging over dbus.19:28
madsyohsix: Yes, and that was my question. Suggestions for devices that can record video from DVI, VGA, USB or Firewire. Which works on Ubuntu19:28
muneebSledge, sudo apt-get purge compiz acompizconfig-settings-manager and then sudo apt-get install compiz  compizconfig-settings-manager19:28
avinashHi guys , i have problem in browsing .. my wireless is proper and i can see the ip .. can ping other computers in same nw .. but some how not able to browse .. gets stuck in resolving proxy .. any help pls ..19:28
escottFroq, xchat19:28
ohsixmadsy: damage works kind of well when theres no 3d involved, and something like vnc2swf will have a very low overhead for recording the results in terms of disk space and complexity19:28
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Froqescott: THANKS19:28
rgrFroq: what "x11 command"?19:28
bahamashello. i'm upgrading my ubuntu and at one point it's prompting to choose whether to keep the current menu.lst or install a new one?19:28
rgrdo you mean using x forwarding?19:28
bahamaswhat should i do?19:29
a2c4n9e1hi, i'm confused. my ubuntu can't be pinged from outside, but it can ping to outside. what might go wrong?19:29
rgrwhy not use a terminal one like irssi? Much better and faster.19:29
[thor]Hi Guys, i'm testing a nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce GTS 250] video device in 11.04. 3D acceleration is not working, and it does not show any available drivers in "Additional Hardware". On startup, the screen flashes as Unity attempts to load, but using "PS -aux \I can run OPENGL applications, but they are extremely slow. Any suggestions?19:29
ohsixstravant: it's another client, unless you have something binding mute and are hitting it all the time19:29
escotta2c4n9e1, are you being a NAT? most people are19:29
bahamasi've previously modified that file because i have a dual boot system19:29
ohsixrgr: this communication doesn't take place over dbus, so before you call someone silly know what you're talking about19:29
a2c4n9e1escott: the other computer is connected through a router19:30
rgr[thor]: yes. Stay away from intel graphics at all costs. I had AWFUL performance on my thinkpads with intel.19:30
[thor]s/ using "PS -aux \/ using "ps -aux | grep unity"19:30
stravantohsix: Is there any other volume control I can use to see?19:30
ossebahamas, how have you modified it? Which OS is the other one?19:30
[thor]rgr: where did i say intel?19:30
alone08hi19:30
ohsixstravant: it's simple to see, if g-v-c is closed and it still mutes, its' not g-v-c19:30
AlecTaylorI've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?19:30
Froqrgr: ssh -X19:30
bahamasosse, i don't remember how i've modified it. the other OS is Windows XP19:30
rgr[thor]: sorry, mind warp. I was just looking at another video issue.19:30
escotta2c4n9e1, if your ip address is 192.168.X.X you can't be ping from anyone outside your network19:30
Guest71298thor ...how much memory you have?19:30
ohsixstravant: you can see ALL connected clients in the output of pacmd list-clients, that includes all mixers and apps playing sounds19:31
[thor]Guest71298: 6GB19:31
ohsixrgr: my intel card is great19:31
stravantohsix: My system has always booted with the sound muted, even without gvc, so I need some way to unmute it, I assume19:31
[thor]Guest71298: as well as 1GB video memory19:31
justbenJust upgraded to Natty. Liking it so far, but Chrome wants to maximize every time I start it. Anyone have any idea what might cause that?19:31
rgr[thor]: are you sure the nvidia driver is loaded? (silly Q I know but best to check).19:31
denny_b_This is interesting, probably a bug I'm sure. -- Just upgraded from 10.04 up to 11.04 and I have no sound. I had sound though when upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10. Any ideas?19:31
alone08i want some help19:31
ohsixrgr: did you have an i810? refrain from offering "advice" like that please19:31
ossebahamas, I would suggest installing a new menu.lst. Grub has gotten pretty good at detect stuff lately.19:31
escottstravant, have you tried alsamixer?19:31
alone08help me19:31
Guest71298did you run the test programs...benchmark stuff?19:31
rgrHave you considered trying sgfxi?19:31
IdleOne[thor]: I know that nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2) was removed, perhaps yours was also.19:31
bahamasosse, ok, thanks. i'll do that19:31
Froqthis channel moves WAY to fast for me...19:31
ohsixstravant: you can unmute it with the applet, without opening the properties19:31
escott!help | alone0819:31
ubottualone08: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)19:31
[thor]rgr: there is no driver listed in the "Additional Drivers" list19:31
alone08escott19:32
[thor]IdleOne: where can i see a list of supported cards?!19:32
ossebahamas, hold on. which versions are you upgrading from and to?19:32
DeadEndI have enabled classic desktop but know wish to go back to unity  but the option to change session on the bottom bar below login prompt has dissapered, how do i change my session bk?19:32
IdleOne[thor]: let me find out, gimme a minute19:32
bahamas9.04 to 9.1019:32
rgr[thor]: consider sgfxi. I dont know, but you never know.19:32
a2c4n9e1escott: i'm having 2 network connected thru a router, and one line from the router goes to the net, pc from net A, can't Ping to my ubuntu in net B, but my ubuntu can ping to net A pc. bot using 192.168.x.x with different subnet19:32
bahamasosse, ^^19:32
Guest71298<--had problems with Ubuntu 11.03....wireless install craps out19:32
DrGrovEvening19:33
ossebahamas, is it too late? :P If I'm not mistaken 9.04 used grub, not grub2.19:33
OY1Rafter getting this error > http://pastebin.com/i2ZahWqH (mount /dev on /root failed invalid argument), i was told to reinstall grub, now when i reboot i only get a grub prompt_ anyone ? using ubuntu 10.10.19:33
a2c4n9e1escott: i think its the firewall in ubuntu blocking outside connection to the pc. can someone help me?19:33
DrGrovCan I use Simple Backup on 10.04 in order to get a quick backup of my system before I install 11.04 ?19:33
DrGrovOr do I need to back it up some other way when I will upgrade to 11.04 ?19:33
=== PolarPanda is now known as PetePorty
ossebahamas, I would still install a new one though, but make a backup of the original19:33
bahamasosse, i already went ahead with the installation, if that's what you mean by "too late"19:33
alone08escott ??  can you help in compiling source code19:34
ysisHi, I just upgraded from Maverick to Natty and want Firefox 3.6 back, mostly because of some incompatible extensions I miss. Any hints how to do this?19:34
MrMist1I'm having problems with hdparm.conf... anyone here with any experience? I'm using natty19:34
escotta2c4n9e1, you can check your iptables, but also check the router config to make sure that net B has a route to net A19:34
ossebahamas, it'll probably be fine. It's been a long time since I've had to modify the grub menu manually19:34
alone08hi all19:35
alone08hi all19:35
alone08help me19:35
alone08i am newbie19:35
IdleOne[thor]: I can't seem to find a list. soon as I get info I'll msg you ok?19:35
joepais it possible to change the shortcuts in the unity dash? or are they hard coded?19:35
[thor]IdleOne: roger that.19:36
AcriaxI figured out how to fix the problem with the scheme turning light grey. I have to run "killall gnome-settings-daemon ; gnome-settings-daemon" after every login. Now my question is, how can I automate this?19:36
bahamasosse, ok. another question: the installer is telling me that postgres 8.3 is obsolete but still installed and that i should install the latest packages. should i do that now or wait until the upgrading process finishes?19:36
a2c4n9e1escott: i don't know how to screw around with linux iptables. but the router firewal doesn't block any connection throu it. but you CAN ping to my ubuntu from within the router,19:36
ossebahamas, but I apologize in advance if it turns out I've given som incredibly stupid advice.19:36
alone08how to compile source code19:36
alone08i want to compile ed source code19:36
bahamasosse, it's okay. i imagine it's not that hard to edit menu.lst again19:37
rach0alone08, usually you start by reading the INSTALL file or the README file19:37
jrib!compile | alone0819:37
ubottualone08: Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)19:37
alone08can any1 help me19:37
escottalone08, install gcc look at man gcc19:37
a2c4n9e1!iptables19:37
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.19:37
ossebahamas, I would wait. In reality I don't think you have a choice since the package manager thingy is in use by the upgrade process.19:37
ohsixrgr: please don't suggest people try sgfxi, it will likely just make a mess someoen else will have to clean up19:37
jribalone08: you know ed is in the repositories and you probably have it already?19:37
alone08thanks rach19:37
escotta2c4n9e1, its tough to say without knowing more details19:37
alone08thanks bro19:37
Soothsayerhow do you view Nautilus settings?19:37
destinydrivenI tried to change my computer name in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, rebooted and old name still there in natty. Did I miss something?19:37
rach0alone08,  and get sudo apt-get install build-essential19:38
Soothsayerlike I want the edit path bar19:38
bahamasosse, ok. i've moving forward19:38
a2c4n9e1escott: what kind of detail should i presented to you.19:38
alone08thanks bros19:38
escotta2c4n9e1, it is possible to configure to not respond to ping, so check iptables and flush any rules if they exist19:38
bahamass/'ve/'m/19:38
warp_iceroot: thanks a lot... your tip worked fine!19:38
escotta2c4n9e1, but are you sure the router isn't acting as a NAT?19:38
herol3oywhy when i type service sshd restart  >>> it doen'st work? >>>>  sshd: unrecognized service19:39
warp_iceroot: with it I could resume my upgrade process.... from 10.10 to 11.0419:39
alone08also want to know i have started learning kernel source code19:39
ossebahamas, I think I gotten the question about menu.lst before without me even changing the file myself at all. If you can't remember how you modified it it probably wasn't important :P Stuff like which is where on the menu and timeout and all that is easy to change. Are you going through a chain of upgrades or are you stopping at 9.10 ?19:39
popeyherol3oy: its ssh not sshd19:39
escottWardje, think it is just "ssh"19:39
alone08but having lot of problems19:39
a2c4n9e1escott, i'm preety sure, that my router only nating connection that goes to the internet from within19:39
FroqWhat language are kernels written in?19:39
rgrC mostly in Linux world...19:39
escottWardje, mean herol3oy19:39
rach0Froq, C and assembler mainly19:39
alone08can any1 tell me from whr to start19:39
ohsixosse: fwiw, re: grub, os-prober being in the mix with the menu builder has made it much better :] not just grub19:40
a2c4n9e1escott, because another windows pc from the net B can be pinged from netA19:40
rgrvery rarely assembler.19:40
bahamasosse, well, my computer is pretty old. would a version newer than 9.10 work okay?19:40
alone08Frgo ...in c19:40
FroqO... where can I get the source code for the kernel ubuntu uses?19:40
rgrFroq: the internet.19:40
escotta2c4n9e1, then flush your iptables19:40
=== PetePorty is now known as PolarPanda
Froqrgr: no way!  is there a specific site it is @?19:40
rgror you can install it.19:40
alone08Frog ....from kernel.org19:40
a2c4n9e1escott, how to do so in ubuntu?19:40
carandraugFroq, it's on the ubuntu repos19:40
ohsixrgr: please, refrain from speaking at all if you aren't going to be helping people19:40
schnuffleFroq: use apt-get to install the sources19:40
Froqalone08: thanks19:40
Froqcarandraug: THANKS19:41
gurmalhow to install xfce sudo apt-get install xfce   sudo apt-get install xfce: command not found19:41
user_fck hackers ubuntu servers19:41
rgralone08: no. not from kernel.org at all.19:41
osseohsix, true! but in this case I think we are stuck with grub, not grub2 which is what made it all better, I believe.19:41
Froqschnuffle: not running ubuntu @ the moment, so...19:41
rgrubuntu has a patched kernel.19:41
AlecTaylorI've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?19:41
escotta2c4n9e1, from the command line sudo iptables --list to show tables sudo iptables --flush19:41
user_orlado pirates19:41
ohsixFroq: apt-get source linux-image-* (depends on the version you want)19:41
carandraugFroq, use the ubuntu repos, not kernel.org if you want to compile exactly the same thing19:41
a2c4n9e1ok19:41
a2c4n9e1thanks escott19:41
IdleOneFroq: apt-get source linux-source-2.6.3819:41
bahamasosse, i have a 2600 athlon cpu and 512 ram, iirc19:41
Froqthanks guys!19:42
ohsixFroq: that'll check out all the files used to build the package so you can rebuild them yourself; if you want to maintain modifications it might be easier to familiarize yourself with the debian maintainer tools, and stuff like pbuilder19:42
user_fck cheater19:42
escotta2c4n9e1, and if you have another computer on the same subnet as the ubuntu try to ping from it to verify that the ubuntu system responds to pings19:42
rgrlearn to use the help facilities your desktop has too. open synaptic and search.19:42
escotta2c4n9e1, if it does then your problem is in your router/routes on the other network19:43
IdleOnergr: Please stop telling people to search the internet. it is not helpful and many people don't have the "google fu"19:43
ohsixosse: shrug, just meant to hilight os-prober's role19:43
=== user_ is now known as cheater333
Logan_cheater333: Do you have a question?19:43
rgrIdleOne: please mind your own business or READ what I said.19:43
ossebahamas, I'm not really sure. I can't think of anything that should make it slower except for fancier desktop effects which you can turn off.19:43
akashm1990Is there any command that will reset my Ubuntu state to default 10.10? i.e. undo any modifications I made  (Something like doing a system restore to the 1st day of OS install in Windows)19:43
escottAlecTaylor, have you tried xrandr on the guest?19:43
rgrI corrected the WRONG answers and then suggested using SYNAPTIC!19:43
ohsixrgr: apt-cache search is generally more comprehensible without introducing all the complexity of something like synaptic19:43
alone08tell frm whr to start reading kernel source19:43
IdleOnergr: Drop your attitude. I am telling you to stop or I will remove you.19:43
phibxrCan you disable the reddish Ubuntu One-bar in Nautilus in your Documents-folder etc?19:43
mathmoiHi, Can I make a minimal install of ubuntu with the regular CD or do I need to use the server CD?19:43
MrMist1Ubuntu Natty seems to skip hdparm.conf during bootup... my settings for spinning down the HD is ignored completely. Anyone want to help me solve this?19:43
Froqman, these IRC channels are the greatest thing EVER19:43
gurmal how to install xfce sudo apt-get install xfce   sudo apt-get install xfce: command not found  whats wrong here19:43
Logan_!minimal | mathmoi19:43
ubottumathmoi: The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD19:43
mathmoiLogan_: Thanks19:44
Logan_mathmoi: You're welcome.19:44
rgrIdleOne: once more. Please read what I typed. I did NOT refer him to google. I corrected tge wrong answers and suggsted he use Synaptic. This is helpful.19:44
escottakashm1990, reinstall/etc-keeper/btrfs snapshots there is no single comand19:44
bahamasosse, ah. ok. i think i'll wait though because this upgrade took about 2 hours, and i don't have the patience to wait more19:44
ohsixrgr: you referred him to search with something else19:44
gurmal@Froq true19:44
Sledgemuneeb,  fixed.19:44
ohsixrgr: think about telling a frail old lady to use a computer when all she wanted was a calculator19:45
escottakashm1990, if you've broken something let us know and we can try to fix it19:45
gurmal how to install xfce sudo apt-get install xfce   sudo apt-get install xfce: command not found whats wrong with this command19:45
ohsixrgr: if she already knows about computers it's a bonus, otherwise it is needless trouble19:45
carandraugmathmoi, I think for the minimal install it's the alternate install, not the server19:45
greg__h19:45
rgrgurmal: whats with the underscores?19:45
TuffPoohey guys i got an issue im getting this when i try to install simcity from disk... "The file '/media/SIMCITY3000/SETUP/ENGLISH/SETUP.EXE' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."19:45
schnufflegurmal: search for xfce, I think the packages are called xfce419:45
muneebSledge, great!19:45
ohsixgurmal: you have garbage characters where there should be spaces19:45
rgrOr use synaptic and search.19:45
escottTuffPoo, thats wine warning you to chmod +x the windows executables you trust19:46
rach0gurmal, sudo apt-get install xfce419:46
Um_cara_Qualquerdoes anybody knows the name of this movie: OFJ.Dual.avi ?19:46
herol3oyescott: so we have no such a package named sshd?!19:46
rgrthere is no shame in using the gui tool. Its there for a reason and can show you related packages very easily.19:46
ohsixrgr: synaptic may seem simple to you, and you even know it can search! but if telling someone to run a command that directly shows the information they are interested, and is comprehensible, it is preferable19:46
IdleOneUm_cara_Qualquer: wrong channel.19:46
greg__I'm trying to stream Netflix. Is there a way to do it using Ubuntu 10.04, or should I install a Windows partition. I have a Windows XP disc.19:47
gurmalok i get it xfce419:47
escottherol3oy, there is an ssh-server but the only "service" would be the sshd not the client. agreed it seems a little weird name for the service19:47
TuffPooescott: its a safe exe i know for sure so the command would be "chmod +x /media/SIMCITY3000/SETUP/ENGLISH/SETUP.EXE"19:47
rgrgreg__: what are you trying to install exactly?19:47
Stameniif i set evolution to check for mail every 5 minuts, will it display me notify when mail is receved or it will be just stored in inbox ?19:47
Um_cara_QualquerIdleOne, which one is the right?19:47
erkan^how install I Gnome 3 on Ubuntu 11.04 ?19:47
IdleOneUm_cara_Qualquer: I don't know but not here.19:47
rach0erkan^,  google for gnome3 ppa for natty19:47
escottTuffPoo, i believe that should make wine shut up19:47
erkan^is ppa good, rach0 ?19:47
IdleOne!gnome3 | erkan^19:47
ubottuerkan^: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.19:47
ohsixUm_cara_Qualquer: "operaco fim de jogo dublado" or so says the gooel result associated with it19:47
akashm1990escott, Can a reinstall be done easily without messing up GRUB? I seem to have broken various things in the system..  have 2 versions of JDK installed somehow(some programs see one, some see the other). apt-get has a habit of hanging,etc..19:48
erkan^ok i see19:48
Um_cara_Qualquerhmm19:48
herol3oyescott:  actually what is "sshd"19:48
herol3oy?19:48
GlowballWhere are the torrent files located on the website? (Every time, I end up here asking the link, so I better do it right this time... :P)19:48
ohsixUm_cara_Qualquer: i've found quoting filenames can often get you to the page that references them, doesn't mean you'll fidn anything though :]19:48
Stameniif i set evolution to check for mail every 5 minuts, will it display me notify when mail is receved or it will be just stored in inbox ?19:48
rach0erkan^,  i should say use it at your own risk19:48
cntrationalmy resolution is set to 1024x768, when it's supposed to be set to 1368x768. what do I do?19:48
escottherol3oy, sshd is the ssh daemon (runs in the background providing a server to connect to), ssh is the client allows you to connect to other servers19:48
Um_cara_Qualquerohsix, @@ you are right19:48
ohsixGlowball: they're next to the .iso files in the mirror directory19:48
herol3oyescott: because we have ssh for client and openssh for server side?19:48
Um_cara_Qualquerohsix, thx a lot man19:48
ohsixUm_cara_Qualquer: np19:48
rgrherol3oy: this is really a great resource - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys19:49
Glowballohsix: Which is where, starting from the homepage?19:49
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rgrit explains the setup well19:49
carandraugcntrational, go to the monitor preferences and change it19:49
escottakashm1990, grub is pretty much automatic these days. are you concerned about some other os?19:49
cntrationalcarandraug: it's not there, that's the problem19:49
TuffPooescott: hmmm i did do the command but its not changing it19:49
cntrationalcarandraug: Ubuntu isn't detecting the proper resolution19:49
ohsixGlowball: well i never found a great way to get it without going to the mirrors manually, one sec19:49
erkan^I understand it, rach019:49
akashm1990escott, yes, its a dual boot setup with Windows 719:49
herol3oydoes anybody install 11.4? anyproblem yet? something that bother you? everyting is coool or not?19:49
rgrakashm1990: you might need to sudo update-grub after installing to get win7 back in to grub,19:50
IdleOneGlowball: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download19:50
charasCongratulations Ubuntu. I am totally digging 11.0419:50
ohsixcntrational: ubuntu doesn't detect the resolution, your monitor may or may not have EDID information or the driver might have known modes, lacking these it needs to be told which modes are valid19:50
carandraugcntrational, on the old times you could edit xorg.conf. But I think ubuntu doesn't use X anymore so I don't know how to fix it19:50
escottherol3oy, well they are both openssh but one is the client only, the other is the server only so install openssh-server and then start the ssh service19:50
rgrcarandraug: of course ubuntu uses X.19:50
carandraugrgr, wasn't it vchanging to wayland?19:50
GlowballIdleOne: Ah, I see them. And how to get there :) Thanks.19:50
escottTuffPoo, is there a #wine channel?19:50
herol3oythanks dude!19:50
FroqHow do I update my desktop to the newest ubuntu via terminal?19:50
cntrationalcarandraug: that's on 11.10, afaik19:50
Froqsudo apt-get upgrade?19:50
rgrAnd xorg.conf is still there and useable and in many cases (mine) necessary too.19:50
akashm1990escott, rgr So, I can also download 11.04 , Install it like  I installed 10.04 , and with minimal effort get windows 7 back in GRUB. Right? I should overwrite the old Ubuntu install?19:51
herol3oysudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:51
schnuffleFroq: change the repository entries and use dis-upgrade19:51
jrib!upgrade | Froq19:51
ubottuFroq: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade19:51
ohsixGlowball: from the front page "Get ubuntu", "Download and install", "Alternative downloads"19:51
cntrationalI've tried editing xorg.conf, but I'm not sure what I need to do to set the resolution19:51
escottakashm1990, a reinstall would reinstall grub, but i never did anything special to get win 7 to boot19:51
jribFroq: follow the server instructions there (do-release-upgrade)19:51
rgrakashm1990: no. Not with minimal effort. depends on HOW your current partitions are set up. You MUST do your homework. Dont listen to the "its easy" advice.19:51
suptonerratic unresponsive UI after upgrade.  after upgrade to natty (running beta packages from early this week), mouse cursor moves fine, no apparent load, but occasional (often enough) can't click anything: mouse/keyboard fail do do anything (unity 3d on intel graphics on Dell Inspiron 15).19:51
Glowballohsix: I got there already, thanks to IdleOne. Thanks anyway for your effort!19:51
carandraugcntrational, rgr, oh! I thought they were going to change now on 11.04. Can you say I haven't upgraded yet? :p19:51
charascan anyone tell why "Ctrl + Alt + Numpad 7" shortcut might not work on my system?19:52
escottakashm1990, if you had a lot of trouble in the past you might have trouble with a reinstall19:52
alecbenzeris there a way to have the unity side bar come up instantly when I move my mouse to the right of the screen (ie not having the 1-2 second delay)19:52
alecbenzerleft*19:52
ohsixrgr: the xorg.conf is not there unless you have a proprietary driver (practically speaking, just nvidia) or a custom configuration, on a default install there is no xorg.conf and it's all hot detected19:52
rgrcarandraug: so why tell someone its not used anymore? That could lead to them hosing their systems. Just saying like ... ;)19:52
akashm1990escott, rgr The 1st time I installed Ubuntu it was automatic.19:52
jribcharas: what do you expect it to do?19:52
carandraugcntrational, can you look into /etc/X11/xorg.conf then?19:52
akashm1990should I expect any difference this time since grub is already installed?19:52
ohsixcarandraug: you'd have to create it, but X will still read it19:52
rgrakashm1990: it might be. But be careful. Tjhere are oodles of issues with many many people. its not me making things up.19:53
charasjrib: It should place my window at top left corner of screen but it's not working. I disabled all the compiz shortcuts so not to override.19:53
phibxrakashm1990, i've never had any trouble with grub not recognizing an installed operating system.19:53
cntrationalcarandraug: as ohsix said, it isn't there19:53
carandraugrgr, I really thought they had it changed on this new version. Sorry19:53
destinhi!19:53
jribcharas: oh, is that some unity shortcut?19:53
rgrphibxr: thats nice but its no help to the hundreds who do. Its worth being careful - thats all I am saying.19:53
destinhi!19:53
charasjrib: Yes, shortcut for placing windows19:53
escottakashm1990, i don't see any reason to expect anything different this time. but you can always install grub from chroot its not that bad (I've walked a half-dozen people throught it the last few days)19:53
MrBeanHi all, how much disk space do I need to upgrade fom 10.10 to 11.04? with 3GB I couldn't.19:53
charasin Unity19:53
jribcharas: ah, no idea then19:53
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schnuffle!anyone | desti19:53
ubottudesti: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.19:53
charasthanks anyway, man19:54
rgrat the very least have a rescue image/cd/stick ready ;)19:54
akashm1990rgr, ohk..  Then, if I use the same Ubuntu 10.04 install I had used earlier, it wouldnt cause any issues because grub already exists?19:54
CHOWNedya go back to 10.10.....11.04 is a headache19:54
carandraugcntrational, then run sudo Xorg --configure19:54
rgrshould be fine. but even upgrades of grub have hosed systems.19:54
ohsixMrBean: you need room to fetch all the new versionso f packages you have installed already and then some, so if a fresh install had less than half the disk left; upgrades might not be feasible19:54
escottakashm1990, it will just overwrite the existing mbr during the install19:54
escottakashm1990, just don't do it the hour before you need your computer for XYA19:54
rgrcarandraug: you told him to back up first I hope?19:55
ohsixMrBean: you can arrange for your package cache for the upgrade to be put somewhere with more storage, though; increasing the disk size is the best idea19:55
carandraugrgr, he doesn't have a Xorg.conf file to backup19:55
rgrescott: +119:55
destindoes enyone know why i can not move my windows when i click at the bar at the top and drag?19:55
rgrwhat card?19:55
akashm1990ok.. I'll try downloading 11.04, else just reinstall 10.04..  thanks19:55
GlowballCHOWNed: You know you can just log into classic GNOME desktop on 11.01, right?19:55
GlowballOh, he's off...19:55
ohsixrgr: don't conflate your experience with "grub" "updating" hosing systems, people upgrading and doing things hose systems, if grub or the upgrade process actually did it, it is a bug, and i hope you reported it19:55
rgrbest util I have used is nvidia-settings but recently discovered sgfxi.19:55
cntrationalcarandraug: already tried that, it fails with the error "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices"19:55
osseEach time a new Ubuntu version comes out I see a lot about upgrading. But I never manage to find out if there will be any significant difference between a fresh install and an upgraded installation. I guess because there are none?19:56
MrBeanok thank you, I'll download the iso and reburn it. bye.19:56
[thor]Glowball: "Classic" != "10.10"19:56
Froqhow can i check to see if my wireless card has N capabilities via terminal?19:56
ohsixrgr: don't tell people to use sgfxi, other people will have to undo the damage it does to fix their problems19:56
rgrosse: why guess that?19:56
saju_mi tried to install cinelerra, but getting error, http://dpaste.com/537555/19:56
carandraugcntrational, are you using only 1 monitor?19:56
jribosse: there shouldn't be any significant difference, yes19:56
cntrationalcarandraug: yes19:56
Glowball[thor]: But I can't see another reason not to want 11.04, except for Unity19:56
rgrThere are loads of issues with upgrading that simply dont occur with a fresh install for obvious reasons.19:56
ohsixFroq: iw phy phy0 info19:57
Froqohsix: thanks19:57
ossergr: Maybe a "no news is good news" kind of thing :P19:57
rgrincluding but not limited to other tweaks you might have applied on the older version that can not be migrated by the update utility. Anyone who says they are the same thing is misleading you.19:57
ohsixosse: there often are none, yes; but with upgrades special attention needs to be made if you use ppa's or mangled some of the distro files (which you can do unknowingly if you followed bad advice/workarounds in the past)19:57
[thor]Glowball: lack of video card compatibility is the one i am running into now; even in Classic mode, my 3D acceleration is toast ( yes, i have checked for drivers )19:58
haygusHi19:58
arkanabarwhat gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty19:58
hayguswhere ca n i found the new version md5 file ?19:58
[thor]a distro upgrade is supposed to improve functionality, not break it.19:58
AlecTaylorI've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?19:58
ohsixrgr: the point of an upgrade is for them to be the same thing in the end, so what you just said is antithetical to the entire process19:58
rgr[thor]: I guess you never upgraded Ubuntu much then ;)19:58
ohsix[thor]: and "upgrade" is a strictly utilitarian thing that changes the packages to new versions, it says nothing about functionality19:59
[thor]rgr: since 8.0419:59
jribosse: if you take a fresh 10.10 install and upgrade it should be the same as an 11.04 install.  Obviously, if you make changes to 10.10 and upgrade those changes affect your upgrade result vs a fresh 11.04 install...19:59
tmasterMSI ATI 5770 HAWK, Core i5 750, 4GB DDR3,Intel DP55WB -- any potential driver issues with Ubuntu?19:59
logophobiahi, are there any special instructions/tricks for installing on an UEFI based PC? I installed ubuntu but I never get the boot menu19:59
saju_mi trying to install cinelerra, but getting error, http://dpaste.com/537555/19:59
rgrbut the upgrade will never be as clean as the fresh install. And there should be zero reason to install 10.10 amd then dirextly update.19:59
ohsixthe important distinction is the things that you can do to break things for an upgrade, which happen; that you sidestep entirely doing a new install20:00
[thor]ohsix: it has succeeded in driving me away from the project.20:00
Glowball[thor]: Weird. I never had that kind of problems. There is one bug that is keeping me from 11.04 for now, though, and that is the higher power usage in new kernels.20:00
ohsixrgr: quantify "clean"20:00
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ohsix[thor]: bummer20:00
cooladminI installed new Ubuntu 4.14 since long time I left ubuntu for RHEL & Fedora...really is amazing product now and I want to stick with it20:00
saju_mplease check this http://dpaste.com/537555/20:00
RealOptydoes virtualbox only emulate a 32bit cpu??????????20:00
haygusi have this error before the instal20:00
cooladminSorry 10.1420:00
haygusunexepected_exit_with_statut_0x000920:00
carandraugcntrational, I googled a bit and some people say you need to stop X before running that. That means you'd have to go to a tty, and stop the GUI for some time20:00
rgryou check which repo cinelerra should be in and added it to your sources.list?20:00
hayguson black screen,20:00
haygusi try check disk, same thing..20:01
ohsixGlowball: that higher power usage amounts to about 3 minutes here, the part that bugs me is the extra 1deg or so it entails on the system/hd temps20:01
rgrDid you use synaptic or apt-cache search to verify the install candidate name?20:01
rach0tmaster, no there should not be any serious problems with drivers. I suspect everything will work out of the box20:01
[thor]cooladmin: neither of those are valid release numbers..20:01
FroqSo I downloaded the most recent linux kernel and it is taking my computer 10+ minutes to unpack the dang thing...20:01
berefeiraupdated, no wobbly windows, is this correct?20:01
osseThanks, guys. I'll try to think of stuff I might have done. In 11.04 the default media player has changes. Does this mean that Banshee won't get installed because it notices that I have Rhythmbox set as the default player?20:01
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ohsixFroq: theres a ton of files in it :] like tons20:01
cntrationalcarandraug: I did do that; alt-ctrl-F2, sudo stop service gdm20:01
tmasterrach0: thanks, I had heard there are some issues with ATI cards, thats why I was worried20:01
rgrFroq: may I ask why? You had to ask where to get it. Did you install the source via synaptic?20:01
ohsixFroq: not a million but over 50k20:01
Froqohsix: must be... but it is only 75MB.... that isn't very big. lol... but I guess it is too.20:01
jribosse: you'll likely have both installed20:01
ohsixrgr: it is extracted and prepared if apt-get source is used20:02
Froqrgr: I went to the ubuntu repos and got it from there.20:02
rach0tmaster, i have a HD 5500 and it works fine, just dont install the binary drivers20:02
carandraugcntrational, ok. Could you pastebin the X log then?20:02
arkanabarwhat gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty20:02
GuyCanadais there any reason that nvidia would see an attached monitor but system>monitors would not? im trying to hit function-F8 to display my screen on a tv. i dont want to set up miltiple monitors through nvidia i just want to be able to HDMI out when watching tv through my computer can anyone helo?20:02
GuyCanadahelp?*20:02
rgrso you installed it via aptitude or apt or synaptic or what?20:02
Froqrgr: I have been playing around with learning C++ and making in grounds into it, and figured I would love to look @ the structure of teh linux C kernel20:02
rgrWhat source is it you are extracting?20:02
saegeis there a way to install gnome3 without breaking unity?20:02
tmasterrach0: Do I have to do anything special during installation to not install them?20:02
ohsixosse: no banshee will get installed as it's a recommend from ubuntu-desktop; but you can remove it, or use rhythmbox, it's really no actual distinction, just that it's a recommended package now20:02
Glowballohsix: Well, I never tested it myself on my own hardware, but I read people getting as much as 30% less battery life20:02
Froqrgr: I went to the ubuntu repos via web browswer20:02
eigbaarkanabar, I just use the mouse software that always came with ubuntu/gnome its still there and works20:02
rgrFroq: there are some nice tools on the web to help you navigate the source code online.20:03
osseFroq, extracted it'll be over 400 MB I think. Text files are usually very compressable. Also, that it's a bunch of small files instead of a few larger ones contributes.20:03
carandraugcntrational, pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log20:03
rgrlol..20:03
ohsixGlowball: i'd take that with a grain of salt, but i've also seen people reporting 2 separate issues, one of which is their processor being in turbo mode when it shouldn't be; that will account for a lot, since theres no turbo on my cpu it accounts for no additional use here20:03
rach0tmaster, no just don't get them after installation unless you really need them (and i don't suspect you will)20:03
arkanabareigba, ty, but I'm not running gnome.  I'm running lxde.  what is gnome's mouse config applet?  I'm willing to give it a try, if it's still included in natty....20:03
Froqrgr: so what tools are you making mention of?  I am very interested20:03
darkhamhi, in 10.10 i find temp youtube files in chromium in /tmp dir20:03
ossejrib, ohsix: thanks.20:03
ohsixFroq: he asked how to get the source code, not how to browse it20:03
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darkhamnow in /home/.cache/chromium/default20:04
ohsixFroq: theres the upstream kernels git browser and launchpads bzr browser for it's local kernel branches20:04
darkhami dont't find anything20:04
tmasterrach0: Ok.. So I dont need them for games I hope20:04
Froqohsix: o man, you are so smart, talking over my head! :)20:04
BlouBloudarkham: that may be because they updated config20:04
cntrationalcarandraug: http://pastebin.com/YbK35Uy120:04
darkhamwhere i can find the video temp file, if you can help me20:04
rgrFroq: lxr for a start. but there are many. http://www.google.de/search?q=browse+linux+source+code+online20:04
ohsixFroq: first message was meant for rgr20:04
tkngch\quit20:04
rgrbut note that the linux kernel is C and in no way prepares you for complex C++20:05
ohsixrgr: you're getting on peoples last nerve with giving people google links20:05
ohsix!google | rgr20:05
ubotturgr: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.20:05
rgrsigh20:05
ohsixrgr: if you have a link in those google results that you intend to give to a person, give them the link20:05
avinashHey guys , i can see my wireless is connected .. get 'connected' message .. but can't browse any sites .. gets stuck in resolving proxy .. how to change proxy .. any help pls20:05
rgrbut lxr is nice for a start. Also a editor which can use etags is good20:05
ohsixrgr: if you have a link in those google results that you intend to give to a person, give them the link20:05
Froqrgr: Good to know, I just wanted to look @ some large scale stuff, and I didn't realize teh number of files associated with a kernel! WOW20:05
rgrthe linux kernel makefile  includes a tags target20:06
saju_mi trying to install cinelerra, but getting error, http://dpaste.com/537555/20:06
BlouBloudarkham: if you want to download a video, try with firefox, 'video downloadhelper'20:06
ohsixFroq: if that's all you wanted, you might be interested in http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree20:06
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rgrFroq: well, enjoy it ;) Also note that the C in the kernel is about the best you will find. very "clean".20:07
Froqohsix: yeah!  that is what i wnated! could have had it 30 minutes ago if I could just better articulate my desires, huh?  thanks20:07
ohsixFroq: that's linus' kernel tree; and doesn't include ubuntu patches (they're in their own tree) but if you're not interested in building it or anything, it should suffice20:07
carandraugcntrational, well, I can't find any error there20:07
schnufflesaju_m: sure the package is called cinelerra, search for it20:07
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ohsixrgr: #ubuntu-offtopic20:07
darkhamBlouBlou, yes but i'm curious to know where it's downloaded a temp file20:07
carandraugcntrational, what resolution should it be?20:07
ohsixFroq: well it's a very general question, i assumed it was ubuntu related and you wanted to rebuild it or something :] no harm no foul20:07
BlouBloudarkham: usually is or in .chronium/cache or something like that, or in /tmp20:08
Froqohsix: right on!20:08
cntrationalcarandraug: 1368x768, a 16:9 resolution20:08
darkhamBlouBlou, i'm asking, because i look in both, and nothing20:08
ohsixlame, the firefox 4 update page no longer has a link to the bugs fixed in that release20:09
BlouBloudarkham: Then I have no idea, most probably they changed temporal folder20:09
asdf_mscstereocaulon_, did you mean you had problems with just upgrading to 11.04 or with WoW?20:10
darkhamBlouBlou, thanx the same20:10
BlouBlounp20:10
Stereocaulon_asdf_msc, I meant just upgrading to 11.0420:10
stravantohsix: Last time I had these sort of problems just uninstalling pulseaudio from the system entirely fixed them. Now that won't work anymore, is there anything special I would have to do to make it work?20:10
Stereocaulon_asdf_msc, I don't play WoW20:10
_ListerWorkhi, how does one get to change display output to use hdmi cable20:10
_ListerWork?20:10
carandraugcntrational, I have to go now. But take a look at this, it might be of help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding%20undetected%20resolutions20:10
ohsixstravant: it didn't "fix" them, it sidestepped the real problem20:11
BobgutsHello20:11
carandraugcntrational, and good luck fixing it20:11
stravantohsix: I know, but by fixed I mean that it let me hear sound20:11
Sledgestil can't figure out how to add stuff20:11
ohsixstravant: theres nothing special you should have to do; you have software running that is muting things, if its g-v-c and it's doing it without you clicking on mute, find out what it's fighting with20:11
stravantohsix: Since there doesn't seem to _be_ any solution20:11
beta____A question: does anyone know how to install emerald in 11.04...20:11
beta____?20:11
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beta____Tried the emeraldfix.txt, but it keeps given me errors..20:12
destinwhy can i not drag my windows form the top bar?20:12
ohsixstravant: i gave you what i thought was all the information that was needed to troubleshoot the problem20:12
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roolydoes anyone know where the patch for the rlt8192se that keeps it from making the system lock up is?20:12
schnufflebeta____:  check http://www.webupd8.org/2009/03/ubuntu-install-themes-emerald-compiz.html20:12
roolybecause there's been a regression since 10.1020:12
ohsixbeta____: why do you need emerald? support for transparent themes has been promoted to the other window decorators and you don't need to theme it separately now20:12
darkhamhow can i search all unconditioned video files in natty?20:13
ohsixrooly: do you know for a fact that such a patch exists?20:13
beta____@schnuffle: that's not the problem.. know how to install...20:13
ohsixrooly: you should try the module backports and see if it still freezes, but if it doesn't, still file a bug20:13
beta____but the decoration just doesnt show20:13
roolyohsix, yes, i used it for 4 months prior to 10.10 (which brought it in to the kernel)20:13
ohsixrooly: how come you didn't lobby to get it included?20:14
stravantohsix: I did look into it more. It is indeed not gnome volume control, playing sound from _any_ program causes the sound to become muted until I unmute it in gnome volume control. The it doesn't actually instantly mute if there isn't any program playing sound, it only goes to being muted one a program tries to play sound. I would suspect it's some ugly internal thing?20:14
ohsixrooly: if it was known it should have been included20:14
beta____@ohsix; yes, but there are still a lot of nice themes that are build on emerald..20:14
beta____rather than on gtk20:14
roolyohsix, because i didn't realize that 11.04 would regress on the rtl8192se wireless driver20:14
ohsixstravant: ah, it is an sblive isn't it20:14
teja2011hello..all i am using 11.04...but i was having a problem in new look of ubuntu i tried to enable desktop cube in compiz den something gone wrong dats it i can see any panels and shortcuts...help me20:14
ohsixrooly: it's not a regression if you needed a patch before ... it's just the same thing?20:15
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roolyohsix, 10.10 fixed the problem20:15
ezrohey20:15
roolythe problem was documented in 10.04 and patched for 10.1020:15
ezroIm just wondering for linux20:15
ezroI just installed linux20:15
ohsixrooly: ok if it's broke again in 11.04, then the same patch probably won't work anyways; you should try the backports to see if it's fixed already, and file a bug20:15
stirfooany emacs user find C-M-a (left Alt not right) will not produce an event, even when using describe-key?20:15
asdf_mscanyone else get fatal exception errors on opening WoW after upgrading to 11.04?20:15
roolyohsix, backparts are installed20:16
ezrowhat should I do next?20:16
rooly*backports20:16
DSASDhi20:16
stravantohsix: What? I don't have any sound card, it's the the integrated sound on the motherboard.20:16
ohsixstravant: so some cards treat 0 on the volume as mute, instead of having a separate switch20:16
ohsixstravant: better post the output to aplay -L and pacmd ls again to a pastebin then20:16
beta____uhmm... so no solution yet?20:16
LinuxHack3rJust installed 11.04 64bit, fresh, and first boot I tried to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site. Now I am stuck without X, and cannot seemingly generate a correct xorg.conf (I believe due to the fact I had to start using a vga monitor with a DVI adapter. I started having issues in 10.10 with this monitor, and no issues in 10.10 with a DVI monitor.) I've tried nvidia-xorgconf, still "no screens found". I need to generate20:17
ic4lhelloo guys... i want to ask wich application is the best for IRC ??20:17
ikoniaic4l: that's personal choice, what's the best dinner to eat ? get it ?20:17
ohsixbeta____: no solution to install emerald, perhaps you should state why you wish to do that, as emeralds functionality has been in the other window decorators for a long time20:17
ezro:)20:17
gmachine_24ic4I: is that a joke20:17
ezroanybody here korea?20:17
gmachine_24n20:18
ezrollllllllllll20:18
theclawafter upgrading to ubuntu 11.04, the gtk+-themes I set in appearance settings don't work anymore. everythings in the default theme20:18
quellhorstWhen trying to make vm i see: "warning: kvm is not available. this may mean the kvm package is not installed, or the kvm kernel modules are not loaded. your virtual machines may perform poorly."20:18
theclawany idea?20:18
MadRobotHi all20:18
asdf_mscic4l, i googled the same thing earlier and most seem to just use xchat20:18
IdleOne!korea | ezro20:18
ubottuezro: 도움이 필요하시면 다음 채널에 조인하십시오. /join #ubuntu-ko20:18
quellhorsti have the kvm kernel module loaded.20:18
LinuxHack3rcould anyone assist me in generating an xorg.conf with my nvidia?20:18
ohsixLinuxHack3r: what version of the driver did you try to install? there was an xserver abi change and i don't know if any of the nvidia drivers made it20:18
ic4ljust tell me... what is ur test.... i want to try some irc depend on ur experience20:18
LinuxHack3rohsix: the latest 270*.*.*20:18
gmachine_24I use xchat or chatzilla20:18
ezroI have some problem20:18
ohsixLinuxHack3r: generating an xorg.conf isn't going to help if this is your situation20:18
beta____@ohsix: yeah, I know there are a lot that are better, but they just don't look that nice..20:18
roolyhmm20:19
LinuxHack3rohsix: So can I remove the nvidia driver and try something else in gui?20:19
roolyi see a spot to test it20:19
roolyi might hop offline for a moment20:19
MadRobotThe new Natty interface seems pretty cool! I wonder if there are any tutorials for how I can find my way through it more easily..?20:19
beta____would it be an good choise to be back on ubuntu 10.10? Or some other distro based on ubuntu?20:19
ohsixLinuxHack3r: yes, or use nouveau if you can, it should suffice for the desktop shinyness20:19
ic4lgmachine_24 : i use xchat but didn't satisfy my....20:19
arkanabarwhat gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty20:19
cntrationalso20:19
LinuxHack3rohsix: Until nvidia drivers are updated?20:19
gmachine_24yeah I'm not a big xchat fan20:19
ohsixarkanabar: what's l_x_input?20:20
tensorpuddingMadRobot: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/what20:20
ohsixarkanabar: xinput can still set input device properties20:20
ic4lso which one u prefer to use?? gmachine_2420:20
MadRobotbeta____, I can understand why you might wanna do that. :\20:20
gmachine_24ic4l: I go for the easy . . . chatzilla20:20
arkanabarohsix, lxinput is lxde native app for setting mouse accel & keyboard repeat.20:20
LinuxHack3rohsix: what via apt-get for the nouveau20:20
ohsixLinuxHack3r: i think 270 is already ready for the new abi; can you post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and log.old, and Xorg.1.log?20:21
beta____Because I like gnome2, emerald and custimize a lot with ubuntu... '(20:21
ohsixarkanabar: oh, you'll have to figure out why it broke with them then, as far as i know nothing important changed with the proper way to set these things20:21
gmachine_24I only try xchat when it's a default install . . . and then I'm reminded why I don't like it20:21
LinuxHack3rohsix: just uninstalled it. If I can get back in a gui I'll be more able to do things..20:21
tensorpuddingMadRobot: http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/ rather20:21
stravantohsix: http://pastebin.com/mRdwEj8K , http://pastebin.com/mRdwEj8K20:21
ohsixLinuxHack3r: the log will only be useful from the broken runs of xorg20:22
LinuxHack3rohsix: well how can I do this via cli?20:22
MadRobottensorpudding, how do I add more workspaces?20:22
avinashHey friends, i have ubuntu 10.10 .. the wireless is connected   , but no internet .. any help pls ..20:22
ohsixLinuxHack3r: copy them somewhere they wont be overwritten20:22
phibxrHas anyone been able to change the mouse pointer in the Appearance-pane? No matter what I select, it stays as the default pointer.20:23
tensorpuddingMadRobot: you need to configure compiz20:23
LinuxHack3rohsix: Oh duh:( So....which files exactly?20:23
beta____@avinash, do you have a cable next to you?20:23
celsohi20:23
MrMist1I'm desperate.. Need to sort out how to set a "spin down" parameter with hdparm.. I can't do it in Natty..20:23
avinashbeta____, yes .. i have and i tried plugging in .. it also connects but no internet .. ( ip comes , but can't browse any sites )20:23
Froqso i downloaded a stupid dock program to make my ubuntu look "nifty" but now I want to scratch it, however, I don't know the name of it. What can I do?20:23
beta____hmm.. do you have dual boot? (Windows - Ubuntu)20:24
gmachine_24Froq: right click on the 'stupid dock program' and it should say20:24
stravantohsix: Another little point which may be useful. If I play a youtube vid for example, if I pause it, and then try to unmute using gvc, I have to click about 30 times before it will finally stay unmuted, as though there's some buffer it's going through and it takes 30 clicks to get through it.20:24
tensorpuddingMadRobot: install the Compiz Config Settings Manager, and check out the General Options -> Desktop Size20:24
MrMist1Froq: ps -ef | grep py ?20:24
Kevin147Since the 11.04 upgrade, my desktop lags on minecraft. Why is it doing this?20:24
avinashbeta____, yes .. no its only ubuntu 10.1020:24
ohsixstravant: theres an existing bug regarding some auto mute & independent output thing that sound chip does20:24
LinuxHack3rohsix: Just copied /var/log/*, will that cover everything?20:24
avinashbeta____, no issue in hardware coz the same lappy works fine in office .. have problem in home only20:24
gmachine_24but if it's not stupid, I make no promises20:25
ohsixLinuxHack3r: and lots more, eugh20:25
beta____hmm... no other device connected to the router?20:25
ohsixMrMist1: it's still done with /etc/hdparm.conf20:25
FroqMrMist1: what does that ouput tell me?20:25
avinashi have one more laptop to same router ..20:25
stravantohsix: Could you point me to where the bug is listed?20:25
avinashwhich i am using for typing here20:25
beta____and that works?20:25
beta____oooh oke :P20:25
avinashyes this works ..20:25
FroqMrMist1: none of those are the name.20:25
ohsixstravant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/609173 don't try the deb though, and there are probably other bugs20:25
ubottuUbuntu bug 609173 in alsa-driver (Ubuntu) "[VIA controller auto-mute] Headphone output does not work on ASUS P81IJ" [Undecided,Triaged]20:25
MrMist1ohsix: It doesn't seem to be read during boot.. My hd doesn't spin down20:25
gmachine_24Froq: your cock program should also be listed under "accessories"20:25
viper474How do I identify with services so I can change channel?20:26
darkhamhow can i search all the files of the same type?20:26
nuke_holo20:26
beta____hmm.. tried ifconfig to see you ip settings?20:26
gmachine_24sorry, dock20:26
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gmachine_24wow. bad typo.20:26
ohsixMrMist1: oh it's definitely read, every time there is a power event; your settings probably don't allow the drive to spin down20:26
MrMist1Froq: How about just searching through the processes using "ps -ef | less" ?20:26
Froqgmachine_24: I was curious to what you were making mention of cock for.  THANKS20:26
schnuffledarkham: mlocate can do it20:26
ohsixMrMist1: post the output of sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda to a pastebin20:26
gmachine_24haha yeah20:26
avinashyes .. gives eth1 (192.168.2.7) , lo (127.0.0.1)20:26
nuke_yeah!!20:26
MrMist1ohsix: Sure does... If I use hdparm -S 4, it spins down in 20 seconds time20:26
mongywhat does [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 mean.  Its my usb stick, when I plug it in, dmesg returns that.20:26
gmachine_24Froq: seriously, look under accessories. it should be there.20:27
ohsixMrMist1: there are two other power settings that keep the drive awake, setting the sleep time isn't always going to do it by itself20:27
avinashbeta____, so it gets the ip after connecting to wireless.20:27
beta____hm.. maybe dns not working, tried to access the router from your (not working) ubuntu box?20:27
Froqgmachine_24: it is...20:27
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avinashbeta____, yeah .. ping 192.168.2.1 works .. thats my router ..20:27
gmachine_24Froq: :)20:27
Froqgmachine_24: avant window manager20:27
ohsixstravant: you should probably try contacting diwic, or at least commenting on that bug20:28
MrMist1ohsix: So hdparm -S 5 isn't the same as spindown_time = 5?20:28
gmachine_24Froq: can you just remove it now from the command line or via synaptic?20:28
argoni got compiz lag on ubuntu 11.04 (nvidia) can someone help me?20:28
MrMist1ohsix: I thought they were supposed to be equivalent20:28
stravantohsix: Thanks for the help, maybe that'll get me somewhere20:28
Froqgmachine_24: I just performed "apt-get remove avant-window-nagivator20:28
Visitor-integerproblem with webpage: cannot display webpage with css @ 127.0.0.1 ... my friend helped me "chmod" it before, but he is unavailable. can someone please help?20:28
gmachine_24Froq: of course you have to kill it first20:28
Froqwill that remove all teh dependences too?20:28
schnuffleavinash: so your dns isn't set correctly, you can open /etc/resolv.conf and add: nameserver <ip of your router>20:29
ohsixstravant: pulse is just following what the driver is doing, you could probably get an audience with the interested parties (including diwic and themuso) in #pulseaudio, be sure to reference the bug so you don't have to explain it again20:29
LjLFroq: no. use "sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove unneeded dependencies20:29
rgrFroq: depends if they are used elsewhere20:29
j0nrhello, I have just upgraded to natty. I have no wireless. Is this the best place to ask for help?20:29
avinashschnuffle, i ll try this right away20:29
beta____@avinash try to search for an ip of google, anyone knows it?..20:29
arrrghhhhey all, i have an ubuntu server and an ubuntu client communicating over NFS.  I noticed REALLY slow transfer speeds, like 500k/s.  That's KB not kb... When connected via gigabit, I get 20MB/s (again, not mbps).  Is that expected over wifi?  I don't remember it being this slow.20:29
ohsixj0nr: atheros broadcom or intel?20:29
roolywell that was odd...20:29
roolytotally wasn't the bug i was looking for20:29
j0nrohsix: broadcom20:29
rgrarrrghhh: what did you change?20:29
* rooly isn't sure how to prove its the wifi driver20:30
mikebotHas there been problems with left-clicking in 11.04? (I'm having this problem)20:30
ohsixj0nr: a bcm43xx device? you probably need firmware installed20:30
j0nrohsix: oh hang on: 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)20:30
logi01hi can some help me. I just installed natty and everything went fine. But when i use the new kernel (2.6.38) my system freeze short after login. I have to use the old kernel (2.6.35) to use my system?20:30
rgrmikebot: yes. Multiple reports of mice being broken.20:30
arrrghhhrgr, nothing to my knowledge.  i mean there's been some updates, but nothing earth shattering.  client is on 11.04 and server is 10.0420:30
j0nrohsix: is that broadcom?20:30
ohsixrgr: if people are asking they generally don't know what they've changed, or they would have undone it then redone it to confirm their suspicions20:30
ohsixj0nr: ah nope, realtek20:30
rgrno its realtek20:30
vantageHi all, I've got a couple daru2 laptops from system76 and since 11.04, whenever the laptop tries to start the screen saver the brightness bounces down and up and the machine locks up.  Any idea what might be causing this?20:30
j0nrah (my other laptop is broadcom)20:31
jahrendsHello20:31
ohsixj0nr: lots of people have been having problems with those, all i can suggest is trying the module backports and filing a bug20:31
mikebotrgr: Is there some place I can go to find updates about it?20:31
avinashbeta____, i think i know this .. 209.85.229.99  .. ping this works ..20:31
jahrendsDoes anyone here have experience with running an ircd?20:31
j0nrohsix: how do i 'try the module backports'?20:31
rgrvantage: yes. your video is hosed. try resetting back to vesa only driver.20:31
beta____hm.. so this works?20:31
arrrghhhrgr, i guess that changed, the client used to be 10.10, now it's 11.04.  i've noticed slow xfer speeds in Windows as well, but that's over a different protocol (samba)20:31
avinashbeta____, yeah getting response20:32
ohsixmikebot: where are you having problems clicking? nobody but me has reported a problem like that with regard to input, and that was with touchpads, and i got it fixed ;]20:32
vantagergr: permanently?  Temporarily? Or is it a driver or kernel issue?20:32
beta____than I think dns problem. No response when pinging google.com?20:32
rgrnfs can be a real dog if reverse dns isnt configrued properly. I dont have the details at hand. I just recall having similar issues.20:32
ohsixj0nr: install linux-backports-modules-net-<version>-generic, reboot20:32
rgrarrrghhh: 1120:32
rgr^^ rather20:32
mikebotohsix: Everything; in Mines (game), options on Transmission, closing tabs in Chrome... It's not with a mouse, it's with my touchpad.20:32
arrrghhhrgr, i'm mounting via IP.  what does DNS have to do with it.20:32
avinashbeta____, yeah pinging google.com isn't working ...20:33
Saammcan someone confirm this --> all ratings in software center over 100 are displayed as zero. Check out chromium, firefox and gimp20:33
luisgmarinelg15899720:33
avinashalso http://209.85.229.99/ in browser doesn't work ..20:33
ohsixmikebot: ok, the way sensitivity was measured changed a bit upstream20:33
rgrthen its probably not. I didnt know that. But then it mioght. The whole thing is hairy. Just mentioed it to give you some more to go on.20:33
mikebotohsix: How did you fix yours? (Also, do you have a lenovo?)20:33
freeburni upgraded to natty today...20:33
arrrghhhrgr, ok thx...20:33
ohsixmikebot: unfortunately the only way i know to set the sensitivity again is with xinput set-prop, because there is no ui for the changed settings20:34
freeburnbut unity is behaving badly20:34
ohsixrgr: then practically speaking you have said nothing20:34
freeburnvery unstable20:34
ohsixrgr: this is a help channel20:34
illmortaluhm...20:34
rgryes, it does.20:34
illmortalwhat exactly is up with 11.04?20:34
luisgmarineHello guys.  I have a macbook pro 5,3 that I'm trying to install 11.04 on.  I've read the guide but my system hangs when I select to "Check CD for defects" or install.  I've checked the md5sums of the downloaded .iso file and everything matches ..20:34
ohsixillmortal: if you have a question or problem, be specific20:34
MrMist1ohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601444/20:34
rgrlol. The new definition of optimism!20:34
argonhello,draging windows in ubuntu  11.04 is very laggy. I'm using the nvidia drivers.. is this an knowen problem?20:35
illmortaljust updated.. I can't even get Ubuntu to boot up unless I use, "previous" which.. still uses 11.04 <_< lol20:35
ohsixmikebot: mine needed a patch to back out changes, it was doing 2 finger heuristic detection and sending spurious right clicks20:35
Josesordohello all20:35
freeburnmy unity crashes every now and then20:35
yfkwhere is there a chromium-browser-l10n package?20:35
freeburngnome works ok20:35
icqnluisgmarine, burn the cd again20:35
bp0argon, there is definitely a performance problem with nvidia drivers in 11.0420:35
ActionParsnipargon: if you disable compiz and use metacity, is it nicer?20:35
JosesordoI installed the new 11.04, and I need to install a ".run" file and I cant run it ... some help?20:35
mikebotohsix: Uhhh...haha OK, I'm not following I guess; seems like there is no easy solution for me then20:35
IdleOneyfk: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser-l10n20:35
gmachine_24yfk: you want to install chromium?20:35
ActionParsnip!info chromium-browser-l10n20:35
ubottuchromium-browser-l10n (source: chromium-browser): chromium-browser language packages. In component universe, is optional. Version 10.0.648.205~r81283-0ubuntu1 (natty), package size 1663 kB, installed size 14104 kB20:35
trijntjeHow can I assign a mouse key to switch to another workspace?20:35
luisgmarineicqn: I have already 5 times.  First time was a the fastest speed, and went all the way down to the slowest speed my computer allows me and same thing ...20:36
ohsixMrMist1: the apm settings can affect how a drive chooses to spin down, the hdparm manual (man hdparm in a terminal) explains in what way20:36
j0nrohsix: ok, giving it a go, thanks20:36
yfkIdleOne, gmachine_24, no. just wondering why the package exists...20:36
ActionParsnipyfk: make sure you have universe repo enabled20:36
illmortalalso.. I can't right click my panel to remove it... 11.04 for some reason put an additional upper panel on my right screen.. and also put the app panel on the right screen and I can't move it.20:36
beta____Sorry, need to go...20:36
gmachine_24yfk: why it exists where20:36
argonactionParsnip : I'm not shure how to do this20:36
AntilectI love overclocking :D20:36
AntilectAddictive!20:36
AntilectThrill sports xD20:36
lapionjust upgraded to natty, made me Seasick.20:36
logi01Is there any way how to figure out why the new kernel freeze my system after login?20:36
yfkcrap. wanted to ask why it exists. not where... sorry20:36
ohsixluisgmarine: you should probably report a bug about that20:36
ActionParsnipyfk: you can also add the chromium daily ppa and get the daily build20:36
IdleOneyfk: language support for chromium20:36
beta____try to search on Google, how to fix dns problem.. must be some forum/faq for that :)20:36
illmortalmine does the same logi.. i have to use previous installation20:36
lapionswitched back to regular gnome20:36
illmortalthen it loads up <_<;20:36
ActionParsnipargon: press aLT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace20:36
rgrchromium is highly recommended.20:37
yfkIdleOne, thanks. all the rest, sorry for the incoherence20:37
ohsixillmortal: the top bar in unity isn't a panel, it just looks like it20:37
gmachine_24yfk: you are asking my it is on your computer?20:37
ActionParsnipargon: instead of asking, you could have researched instead20:37
AntilectI just clocked a dead 1.66GHz to 3.0GHz and it's stable :D20:37
illmortalick...20:37
avinashbeta____, sure thanks for the help buddy20:37
arkanabarwhat gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty20:37
AntilectLike a warmachine on caffeine.20:37
luisgmarineohsix: :\  you think getting the LTS version might fix it/break it?20:37
gmachine_24I meant why20:37
ohsixrgr: recommended by who? recommended packages are installed by default20:37
beta____no20:37
beta____np20:37
beta____bye20:37
lapionlogi01, check if your sound card works correctly by playing some music in single user mode20:37
rgrActionParsnip: be careful. The anti google brethren are here in num,bers - even when you provide the actual searhc string which shows how to get the information.20:37
ohsixluisgmarine: i can't speak to that, but it should be reported :] then it can be fixed, you're more than welcome to try other spins of the cd to see if it's broken20:37
gmachine_24Antilect: how do you overclock20:37
lapionor maintenance mode20:37
ActionParsniprgr: yeah its a big annoyance :(20:38
ohsixrgr: if you need to provide someone with a specific page in a google result, provide the page; even if it is the top or only result for you, it will not be for other people20:38
Antilectgmachine_24 good sense, a lot of nice fans, and solid knowledge gathered from other peoples trial and horrors :D20:38
deutscherla bussola d'oro20:38
LjLActionParsnip: why shouldn't they have asked?20:38
Josesordohow to open a ".run" file in Ubuntu 11.04? .. please..help20:38
Antilect(and I'm not talking about fan fans, but fans)20:38
luisgmarineyeah that's what I'm thinking.  I'm going to go give the LTS a try and see what the deal is, then I'll go and report a bug.  I just want to make sure it's not something hardware related.20:38
ActionParsnipohsix: why is firefox recommended over chromium, or for that fact any other browser?20:38
rgrreally is. I gave the search string to and the link to a really good ssh tutorial and got threatened with banning.20:38
icqnluisgmarine, ok, then it does not seem to be fine, was it the same cd all the time? well try to create a bootable usb, if your system supports that?20:38
ikoniaJosesordo: same as every other distro, it's just an executable, run it20:38
gmachine_24Antilect: not fan fan fans?20:38
rgrIts not. Chromium is very very good on Linux systems.20:39
LjL!ot20:39
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:39
gmachine_24Chromium rocks20:39
luisgmarineicqn: I don't have a USB stick available ... but let me see if I can find one20:39
ActionParsnipLjL: if someone gives direction then users can use that to aid research rather than _immediately_ asking for additional information20:39
rgrohsix is also the man who claimed that xorg.conf is obsolete.20:39
* arkanabar likes chromium pretty well20:39
argonactionparsnip: better performance with metacity, bu no effects and the Unity bar is gone20:39
MrMist1ohsix: Any idea? I seriously don't think this is the drive, since the -S parameter works fine..20:39
ikoniargr: enough now - please stop it20:39
ohsixActionParsnip: because one is supported, it's not an opinion; what rgr stated was an opinion held possibly only by himself and he should say as much20:39
rgrchromium is fast ans good keyboard UI.20:39
LjLActionParsnip: or they can ask a quick question that has a very quick answer.20:39
ohsixrgr: it is no claim, it's for exceptions and you should never want for or have to change it, if you do, it's a bug20:39
ActionParsnipohsix: chromium is in the repo so is equally supported as firefox...20:39
Josesordoikonia, well in this ubuntu 11.04 not.. it run in gedit.. lol20:39
rgrrunning chromium on ubuntu is on topic.20:39
illmortalhmm... this new update threw my compiz/emerald off too20:39
Josesordoikonia, I mean.. when I double click it ..20:39
ikoniaohsix: let it go please20:40
logi01lapion: what is "single user mode"? My system shortly freeze after login20:40
rgrstaing its not as supported as firefox is simply wrong.20:40
LjL!ot | rgr, ohsix, please, the merits of Chromium are outside of the scope here20:40
ubotturgr, ohsix, please, the merits of Chromium are outside of the scope here: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:40
ikoniaJosesordo: run it from a terminal20:40
ActionParsnipLjL: either wayif users can be more autonomous, it helps a lot20:40
ohsixActionParsnip: don't go off on the weeds, i meant something specific when i said supported, you took it to mean as it just being in the repos20:40
ikoniaguys - enough now, please.20:40
Josesordoikonia, ok that Im trying to do..but forgot the command.. I have the terminal open right now..20:40
ikoniaJosesordo: ./filename.run20:40
Antilectgmachine_24 no seriously20:40
AntilectI don't have any fans :D20:40
rgrLjL: the subject si about installing chromium on Ubuntu. Please try and read the thread with all due respect. I am correcting his staement that chromium is not supported properly. It is not true.20:40
ohsixrgr: that isn't what i said, i'm sorry we have different definitions of supported20:40
lapionlogi01, safe mode in the grub menu20:40
ikoniaJosesordo: what are you trying to install ?20:41
rgrbrb20:41
stravantohsix: Yea, it's definitely that bug, plugging my headphones into the back panel (Thank god they have an unusually long lead), makes it work fine. I'll post my case to it20:41
AntilectThe kind I want, but the other kind, I have in abundance D:20:41
ActionParsnipohsix: thats exactly what supported here means, it is in the official ubuntu repos, so again, why is firefox recommended and chromium not (as you say)?20:41
lapionlogi01, at boot depress both the shift and the alt keys so that you get the grub menu..20:41
Josesordoikonia, this --> ati-driver-installer-11-4-x86.x86_64.run20:41
ohsixstravant: there's apparently a mixer control available to alsa to toggle the mute logic off; and make the outputs act independently too20:41
LjLChromium is in Universe, Firefox is in Main, for the record. Firefox is more supported than Chrome.20:41
LjL*ium.20:41
ikoniaJosesordo: why are you trying to install ati drivers ? there are supported ones in the "hardware drivers" tool20:41
reprapperMCIs there a specific channel for wireless issues with Ubuntu?20:41
mick_homehi everyone, I have a really weird issue where google searches seem to be intercepted20:41
illmortalAnyone know if the new update has thrown compiz into a whacky mode?20:41
ohsixActionParsnip: that's not what it means, but i think LjL just settled it enough for my purposes20:41
LjLreprapperMC: no20:41
ActionParsnipLjL: they are equally supported dude20:41
ohsixLjL: thanks20:41
LjLActionParsnip: no20:42
ikoniareprapperMC: here is fine20:42
mick_homelike as if my dns was cache poisoned20:42
econdudeawesomeHowdy! 11.04 is giving me some issues with flash20:42
LjLActionParsnip: stuff in Main is supported by Canonical, stuff in Universe is supported by the community.20:42
econdudeawesomeis anyone else havingt his problem?20:42
mongyisnt chromium updated as chromium devs update it....20:42
gmachine_24stop bickering about chromium vs firefox or GET A ROOM20:42
phibxrwhen I make a custom launcher entry in alacarte and give it an icon, why does it show up as a ?-mark in the launcher while the icon is visible in the dash?20:42
johndoe_anyone problems with moving windows since 11.04 upgrade?20:42
ActionParsnipLjL: yes, and WE are the community, so we support both20:42
Josesordoikonia, in ubuntu 10.04 .. I believe was better install the propietary drivers.. dont know, what do you think?20:42
mick_homeqbert_: is flo.bellsouth short for floriida?20:42
lapionI am unable to activate bluetooth on 2 laptops..20:42
sivahelo how to shift close,minimise button of a pgm window to right side?20:42
sivaon ub11.0420:42
ohsixActionParsnip: you don't set Recommends on ubuntu-desktop and upload the package though ...20:43
LjLActionParsnip: they're nevertheless not "equally supported", sorry. but we can continue this on #ubuntu-offtopic20:43
Blue1Josesordo: yeah the old legacy mode drivers were in 10.04 - removed in 10.1020:43
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: can you give the output of:   uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf20:43
Josesordoikonia, or in this install driver tool it will be install the same driver?20:43
argonactionParsnip : howto switch back to compiz, i can't research now because unity is gone20:43
reprapperMCok,...I'm using 11.04 with a TP-link TL-WN727n. I've got it connected and can load web pages. However, the connection is very slow.20:43
lapionat least on one of the two laptops it took several attempts before bluetooth could be activated20:43
ikoniaJosesordo: it will install the ubuntu recommended/supported ones20:43
ActionParsnipargon: press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace20:43
Josesordoikonia, ahh ok.. lets see then.. Thanks a lot!!20:43
arnabls -ltr20:43
argonactionParsnip : alt + f2 -> nothing happens20:44
Goliathhey i have the last ubuntu. what is the command to install kde?20:44
neothecathello.  i just updated to 11.04, and now when i boot, i get "VFS: Cannot open root device "sda2" or unknown-block(0,0)", then Kernel panic - not syncing.  this is the same partition my 10.04 was on, and the grub config looks correct...20:44
econdudeawesomehttp://pastebin.com/CVqrFHH120:44
ActionParsnipargon: then run it from a terminal20:44
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/CVqrFHH120:44
ActionParsnipohsix: so if a user asks for support for chromium-browser package then it will get the same level of support as firefox gets20:44
rodger_ncjust installed 11.04 and am unable to run unity also I get a message "over drive" on boot but then it seems to reset and Ubutu loads. Any ideas how to fix?  Sceptre LCD 60Hz not certain what the graphics card is...20:44
Eddhello, i upgraded from maverick to natty , everything was done gr8, after reboot i couldnt boot in, i got a shell window login20:44
oldos2erGoliath: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop20:44
LjLActionParsnip: yes, that's correct as far as this channel goes20:44
Josesordoikonia, ahh another question.. I tried to run the google chrome installer (a .deb file) and dont open like old distro now.. why?20:44
ohsixActionParsnip: that doesn't mean it's in main, and it doesn't mean it's "highly recommended" by anyone but rgr, #ubuntu-offtopic20:45
ActionParsnipLjL: thats sad20:45
Blue1rodger_nc: lspci | grep VGA20:45
illmortali'm gonna take a screen shot of what's going on with my desktop.. It's like deteriorating20:45
norixyHi there.20:45
ikoniaJosesordo: depends if it's for that version, however you should look in the repos for packages rather than installing external pacakges20:45
norixyhello pablo_ :)20:45
ActionParsnipljl: that's alomost like forcing users to use firefox as they are using a 'lesser' browser20:45
gmachine_24norixy please ask a question20:45
norixyheyho crazyrohila :)20:45
norixyhello mehz ;)20:46
malvdoes anyone know why when I middle click in firefox4 2-3 tabs come up?20:46
norixyheyho malv20:46
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer     does it remove it?20:46
ohsixActionParsnip: you really just need to ask yourself, are you supporting ubuntu or all the things people can run on ubuntu; if the latter you have an unbounded set, much like backtrack isn't a supported variant, people would rather know the former well and tell people how to use what is supported, to keep the possibilities small20:46
arnabhow can i get text only interface in ubuntu?20:46
LjLActionParsnip: what? i said this channel DOES provide the same support for Chromium as for Firefox20:46
gmachine_24norixy: enough with the hellos20:46
malvhi20:46
norixyheyho cadmium :)20:46
gmachine_24good grief20:46
norixyhey Castor__20:46
LjLohsix: Universe is a bounded set20:46
Eddany1 ?20:46
ohsixLjL: i meant things outside of universe, not this particular discussion in general; the overarching one20:46
ActionParsnipohsix: I support the ALL package which are in the official repos, simple. I don't rank them because one is in a different repo, thats just pathetic20:46
rodger_ncBlue1:  nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)20:46
Eddi upgraded from maverick to natty , everything was done gr8, after reboot i couldnt boot in, i got a shell window login20:46
lapionsince upgrade to natty It's difficult to activate bluetooth on 2 laptops..20:46
LjLohsix: ok20:46
SomelauwHi, how on earth do I kill the graphical version of bsh?20:47
Eddand i got the same error after a fresh installation for 11.0420:47
ohsixLjL: certainly people can also draw the line at main / universe ... but i don't; just minimal support for doing stupid things :]20:47
arnabthat's exactly what i want20:47
arnabhow can i get a shell window login in ubuntu?20:47
SomelauwIts name doesn't show up in top.20:47
arnabi have natty but i still get                                                                                                gui20:47
oldos2erEdd: have you tried 'startx' ?20:47
ActionParsnipLjL:so both are equally supported20:47
Eddi dont get gui20:47
Somelauwarnab: ctrl + alt + F1 shows tty.20:47
Josesordoikonia, ahh ok..anyways I installed the chromium.. seems similar =)20:47
Eddoldos2er yes i did20:47
Blue1rodger_nc: that card is well supported in previous versions (it's what I have here) i am runint 10.10 with no issues, but I have read of severe nividia problems with 11.04 -- as always ymmv applies.20:47
Eddit says i should install xinist pkg20:47
Somelauwand ctrl + alt + f7 to get back20:48
lapionarnab, tried ctrl-alt-f120:48
oldos2erEdd: what happens? What video card do you have?20:48
Eddintel oldos2er20:48
illmortalCan someone tell me why I have the white upper border on my desktop.. going across both my screens as well as that start menu panel on the right side?... I'd like to remove the panel on the left screen. then just slide the right panel to the left screen: http://tinypic.com/r/rkc1ef/720:48
ohsixActionParsnip: i was talking about things like teamviewer, which are recommended to be used a lot; but aren't in the repos, i won't help them do it20:48
ahmed_hello20:48
arnabthanks it worked - ctrl+alt+f7 also brought me back :)20:49
ActionParsnipohsix: the main part there is "but aren't in the repos". I only support apps in the official repos here, both chromium and firefox are in the official repos, so they both getequal support20:49
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: it failed on me20:49
oldos2erEdd: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-intel20:49
gmachine_24illmortal: the pics on tinypic look fine to me20:49
ohsixActionParsnip: as LjL said the distinction between main / universe may not matter here; but i was speaking of "support" with the package, and that does involve where it is in the repos20:49
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: can you pastebin the result please20:49
rodger_ncBlue1: yep - it worked without a hitch in 10.x but then Unity wasn't the default GUI ...20:49
rich#ubuntustudio20:49
SomelauwCan someone please give me advice how to kill xbsh?20:49
hwhey everyone, I am stumped on an issue... google isnt my friend today20:49
Eddoldos2er i will and get back to u if it works20:50
astro73|derrialjust upgraded my ubuntu, and it seems that my GeForce GT 430 isn't be used by X at all, just using the on-board intel. Enabling the nvidia driver broke  3d acceleration on the intel.20:50
illmortalhuh? how gmachine_24 my start menu is missing images if that makes any sense20:50
oldos2erEdd: you'll need to use sudo20:50
JosesordoHow to change the background in login screen in Ubuntu 11.04?... Please20:50
ActionParsnipohsix: the community supports the universe repos, as LjL said, we ARE the community and so we support both equally20:50
ohsixActionParsnip: i "support" both, but that was never the sense of the word that i was using, we should take this to message if you have anything further20:50
illmortalstart menu buttons*20:50
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/jdsX7BZ520:50
Eddyea sure i will20:50
SomelauwI already tried killal xbsh20:50
Eddbrb20:50
hwwhen I log into this ubuntu 10.04.2 lts box it says I have a bunch of updates.... but when I run apt-get update or upgrade, it says zero upgraded...20:50
gmachine_24illmortal: sorry, when I made the images bigger and looked at the 'raw' image I see what you mean. And I don't have an answer.20:50
MrMist1ohsix: man hdparm doesn't say anything about apm. Do you mean that hdparm.conf demands other set values of the disks APM-parameter than the hdparm -y/hdparm -S commands?20:50
hwanyone have any ideas?20:50
illmortalboo..20:51
rgrActionParsnip: agreed. + until FF4 Chromium browser was far suprioer in terms of css compliance, speed and keyboard navigation. I recommend it over FF as a general rule.20:51
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iceroothw: does it say "hold"? you have to use dist-upgrade to get all updates20:51
illmortaland i thought right clicking on the desktop.. gave you the option to, "refresh" your desktop?20:51
LinuxHack3rHow can I add a "custom" resolution to xorg.conf? I need 1280x102420:51
Omegahw: did you try sudo apt-get update and then upgrade?20:51
tasslehoffanyone running ubuntu on a macbook pro that can tell me how they choose 3d level on the keyboard?20:51
hwyea, I am in as root20:51
Goliathhey how can i make windows appear as a choice in grub boot menu?20:51
ohsixMrMist1: press /-B and hit enter in the manual viewer; it will take you right to it20:51
ActionParsniprgr: i support both, I mainly uses arora these days personally as I have branched out and researched into other browsers :)20:52
icerootLinuxHack3r: first try if it is working, "xrandr -s 1280x1024"20:52
ohsixrgr: in your opinion, be clear20:52
LjLActionParsnip, rgr, ohsix: would you join -ops for a minute, i'd like to talk about this without bothering the people here any further20:52
rgrGoliath: "run sudo update-grub" and hope for the best20:52
Omegargr: Don't spread untruths. Chromium wasn't and isn't more accessible.20:52
icerootLinuxHack3r: xrandr -q  is showing you what your card/monitor supports20:52
welaunchitHow on earth do I close a bug report on launchpad? I can see where I can choose between the various statuses, but not how to close it altogether.20:52
eamonwhats 3d level?20:52
rgrOmega: sorry? I never said it was.20:52
Goliathrgr: dont i need to edit some config?20:52
illmortalOmega... it seems to handle Flash better than Firefox.20:52
rgrGoliath: probably not.20:52
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: what is the output of: fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat20:52
Omegargr: "keyboard navigation"20:52
rgrI recently dit and got win 7 back just fine.20:52
illmortalbut it doesn't support html short cuts like CTRL+B = Bold code :(20:53
erkan^When I open URL (http) for her, than i see the startpagina for firefox, how can that?20:53
LinuxHack3riceroot: But the thing is...I am using a vga monitor to my dvi card using an adapter...and it doesn't detect the "default" of 1280x1024...20:53
rgrOmega: keyboard navigation <> acessibility.20:53
pabloicec'è qualcuno??20:53
pabloicemi potete aiutare20:53
LjL!it | pabloice20:53
ubottupabloice: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)20:53
Omegargr: What I'm trying to say is, it's not more keyboard friendly.20:53
root_help me !!my unity not working after i messed with ldxm/gdm and lightdm20:53
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: nothing. No output20:53
Omegaroot_: What did you do?20:54
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/349469   has a fix, I've not used it. I suggest youo MOVE the files instead of deleting20:54
ubottuUbuntu bug 349469 in debconf (Ubuntu) "debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable" [Medium,Triaged]20:54
LinuxHack3riceroot: I need to know what line to add to xorg.conf for that resolution, I've done it before but I cannot remember exactly what it is...20:54
root_have to type gksu unity for dispalying panal auncer20:54
Goliathrgr: strange thing i did that and when i choose windows on boot i get a black screen20:54
Goliathany idea?20:54
rgrOmega: not my finding but if you dont think so you're entitled to that. I dont wish to talk about chromium vd firefox. My only real comment was to correct that claim that FF is better supported for Ubuntu.20:54
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: What does this mean?20:55
MattCI am having an issue regarding installing ubuntu...20:55
Omegargr: This wasn't about firefox vs. chromium. My only real comment was to correct that claim that chromium is more keyboard friendly and more CSS compliant.20:55
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: read the bug, instead of deleting as the text says, move the files. This gives a rollback path20:55
MattCI downloaded the CD from the website,20:55
lapionif you are having problems enabling bluetooth, just use the init script..20:55
MattCand used it to install.20:55
Omegargr: I think we should leave it at that, we're getting in the way of helping users :)20:56
sam-_-Omega: how is this related to ubuntu?20:56
logi01lapion: my sound works with the new kernel in safe mode. But when i login with any other mode it freeze :/20:56
lapionsudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart20:56
MattConce the installation was done20:56
Omegasam-_-: See my previous comment.20:56
gmachine_24MattC: Please tell us what the problem is and which version of Ubuntu, etc.20:56
mongyremind me never to tick "install 3rd party software" during install while still in the first few days of release.. 2 hours later, thanks to people hammering the servers :(20:56
lapionI have to go afk sorry logi0120:56
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: Where do I go to read the fix? I apologize for pestering, I've just never worked a fix/workaound in this way20:56
Blue1lapion: sudo service bluetooth restart is a tad easier20:56
vantagergr: Is there a bug for the display freezing on the daru2 anywhere?  Is it display driver specific?20:56
Omegasam-_-: not misinforming users is a big part of being professional, no?20:56
MattCit asked me to remove the CD so it could re-boot.20:56
logi01lapion: ok thx20:56
icerootLinuxHack3r: http://pastebin.com/RrQbiayr20:57
mzahi all. Ubuntu 10.04 an unity is realy great20:57
MattCso after I did, and it rebooted, it just sat there.20:57
lapionbluethanks Blue120:57
Blue1mza: huh?20:57
sam-_-mza: 10.04 or 11.04?20:57
MrMist1ohsix: Well... interesting thing this. I'm trying to set the APM value by using hdparm.conf, but the hdparm -I command still returns 25420:57
mzasam :)20:57
gmachine_24MattC: which version of Ubuntu?20:57
mzai was wrong20:57
MattCafter going thru the POST screen20:57
mza11.04 :P20:57
Mjiig'lo everyone, anyone know how i can reorder items in the unity side bar. nothing i try does anything...20:57
gmachine_24MattC: You might try turning the computer off completely and restarting it.20:58
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: in the link I gave, read it20:58
ohsixMrMist1: seagate drives can be pretty weird20:58
gmachine_24I know it sounds silly, .... but sometimes that does it20:58
MattC@gmachine_24: 11.0420:58
mzaanyway, anybody knows if unity is "free" enough and maybe will be aviable for other distros ?20:58
MrMist1ohsix: It worked on 10.0420:58
Blue1mza: no20:58
ohsixMrMist1: you need to set your options with hdparm initially, if you want to check immediately if they take effect20:58
gmachine_24MattC: do you have any other installs on your hard drive?20:58
hihihi100all my workspaces appear as "workspace 1", shouldnt they be numbered?20:59
MattCno20:59
squidlydoes anyone know a softphone that that works with broadvoice?20:59
illmortalanyone know how I can remove my upper panels? It's flaking out on me.20:59
ohsixMrMist1: to test my hdparm.conf changes i just unplugged and replugged in my power cord on my laptop, that isn't practical for everyone and you can still run the power script manually to apply them immediately20:59
gmachine_24MattC: did you shut the computer off and restart it?20:59
MattCmany times,20:59
gmachine_24MattC: ok20:59
ohsixMrMist1: but best practice, set manually with hdparm, then migrate your settings to be applied to hdparm.conf; and to note that hdparm.conf has settings for when it's on battery and when it isn't20:59
hihihi100am I the only one that can use internet with tor on after the upgrade?21:00
j0nrohsix: ok, so i did apt-get install <that backports package> and rebooted... should I be doing anything else?21:00
econdudeawesomeSorry ActionParsnip had to relogin21:00
hihihi100am I the only one that can use internet ONLY with tor on after the upgrade?21:00
icerootmza: unity is published with lgpl21:00
gmachine_24MattC: I don't know what to tell you. Did you check hardware compatibility? Were you running an earlier version of Ubuntu before 11.04? If so, which one?21:00
dustin_If I upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 will it remove my custom desktop(gnome panels with plasma work area) and switch it to unity?21:01
MrMist1ohsix: Hey.. I'm not doing anything more than "hdparm -S 32". And voila, it works. Then I set hdparm.conf to /dev/sdd { spindown_time = 32 }, and it's not working21:01
mzawell, i start to like unity alot. is there any flamewar out ther about unity and gnome3?21:01
MrMist1I haven't done ANYTHING else with HDparm21:01
sakurambooive installed a few games, but they do not show up in the games menu in unity, is there a way to manually add them?21:01
icerootdustin_: not remove, just not used by default21:01
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: no worries21:01
mzagoogle is my friend21:01
icerootmza: #ubuntu-offtopic, #gnome21:01
icerootmza: and yes there is but this is not the right place for that21:01
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: So what is the next step then? The bug you showed me seems to show that my config/dat file was locked before upgrade? Am I understanding this right?21:02
gmachine_24uhmm.... what is flameware?21:02
mzayes you are right iceroot.21:02
mjnsquidly, freeswitch?21:02
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: the bug fix apparently is the move the files out of the folder and run a command, its on the bug21:02
gmachine_24ok nm21:02
ohsixMrMist1: i dont' know what to say, i'm using 11.04 and it works here, let me triple check right now21:02
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squidlymjn: is that a package?21:03
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: files out of the debconf folder? Will they respawn?21:03
ohsixMrMist1: they are being applied here21:03
MrMist1ohsix: How can you see? By hdparm -I ?21:03
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: assumedly so, I advise you move them so you can move them back if you get issue21:03
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enavdo you guys know an alternative to NO-IP client for Ubuntu desktop ?   because NO-IP is hard to install21:04
ohsixmy apm level switches between 254 & 128 on ac and off, like i set, and my AAM level is statically set to 128, as i also desire and put in hdparm.conf21:04
ohsixMrMist1: yep, hdparm -I21:04
econdudeawesomek21:04
ActionParsnipenav: noip221:04
Guest99294ro21:04
enavActionParsnip: hi bro long time no see you21:04
Guest99294?21:04
MrMist1ohsix: Hmm... strange21:04
ActionParsnipenav: howdy21:04
enavActionParsnip: dude you are always here... i see u really love this cahnnel!!!21:04
astro73what's the best place to get support for nvidia cards?21:04
eamonhello21:04
eamonastra05: nvidia forums21:05
ActionParsnipenav: its fun21:05
rgrif you find noip hard then I suspect using it wont be that much of a benefit since its not foolproof and can have substantial performance impacts.21:05
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: after I take the files out, what do I do?21:05
ProfessorBaconi can't get used to unity21:05
enavActionParsnip: hahah   well i will cehck the noip2 thingy21:05
div-0hi21:05
MrMist1ohsix: Is there any way to detect that the script is actually being run during boot?21:05
ProfessorBaconi feel lost when i'm trying to figure out what applications i have open21:05
eamonhi div-021:05
rgryou can still use htop ;)21:05
ohsixMrMist1: well it's run during power events, which as far as i know is at least once during boot21:06
gmachine_24astro73: I might have missed your earlier posts, but you checked for software versions for Nvidia?21:06
div-0i have a problem with the installation of ubuntu on my laptop. (described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742929&highlight=1520 )21:06
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: ah, found it21:06
eamonMrMist1: you could put "echo "IT'S WORKING!!!!!!!!!"" in the script21:06
avinashschnuffle, thanks man .. adding nameserver <router ip> helped .. thanks very much ..21:06
div-0now i tried to follow "dinos" instructions, but i cant find a xorg.conf file in my /etc directory, any ideas?21:06
rgrdiv-0: does grub not already have a failsafe entry for you?21:06
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: same error when I run sudo apt-get install -f21:06
gmachine_24astro73: under administration>additional drivers?21:06
eamondiv-0 try /etc/X11/xorg.conf21:06
rgrdiv-0: its not in /etc thats why21:07
theclawthere seems to be something wrong with my gnome setup. when I log in, "gnome-settings-manager" is there twice, and I get the error in .xsession-errors "You can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting" - any idea?21:07
rgr/etc/X1121:07
theclawwith a new user, everything works21:07
div-0eamon: yes i looked there21:07
rgrlook up sgfxi too21:07
div-0there is no xorg.conf21:07
eamondiv-0: make one21:07
black_quit21:07
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: ok have the files been recreated?21:07
rgryes, its a half arsed move to not needing one. many people do.21:07
div-0eamon: how? just a blank file?21:07
eamonyes21:07
eamonnormal text file21:07
rgrsudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf but that wont help one iota.21:08
MrMist1ohsix: I'm running a "ubuntu-server" machine... don't know it that matters. I've also got the disks mounted via fstab... but I still want them to spin down21:08
anonymityanyone available to answer some questions about networking and Ubuntu?21:08
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: some of them. Not all of them. And I can no longer sudo...21:08
rgranonymity: just ask21:08
eamon!ask ¦ anonymity21:08
econdudeawesomerather, sudo nautlius21:08
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:08
rgroh god...21:08
ohsixMrMist1: oh, i dont think it does, but acpi power events might not run on the server version, i do not know21:09
eamon!details ¦ anonymity21:09
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:09
kjxl9hey21:09
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: then you may need to boot to root recovery mode and copy back if you have not an interactive sudo going21:09
eamon!details21:09
ubottuPlease give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."21:09
eamon!ask21:09
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)21:09
rgrMrMist1: why do you want to spin your disks down out of curiosity?21:09
div-0rgr, eamon: ok thx, not sure that an empty file does much21:10
div-0:)21:10
rgrdiv-0: it doesnt. it was a silyl thing to recommend.21:10
ohsixrgr: do not suggest people use sgfxi, _someone_ has to clean up the mess afterwards, if that someone is you, tell them in private, but not here21:10
rgrwhat card?21:10
kjxl9is there a package that has drivers that deal with ps3 controllers?21:10
arrrghhhrgr, and now it's "fast" again.  2.2MB/s... I don't get it, nothing changed other than the client reboot.21:10
eamondiv-0: you'll want to add whatever that guide is telling you to add to that file21:10
div-0rgr: nvidia GT8600M GT21:10
rgrarrrghhh: best not to question nfs ;)21:10
helo_anyone else think that unity is awesome?21:11
rgrdiv-0: did you run nvidia-settings?21:11
arrrghhhrgr, samba has problems too it seems... usually NFS is better.21:11
rgrpr sgfxi?21:11
_Mr_Proper_Bah, Bombono just gave me corrupted data.. Can anyone recommend a decent dvd burner for ubuntu?21:11
arrrghhh!ot | helo_, this room is for support not for chat.21:11
ubottuhelo_, this room is for support not for chat.: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:11
_Mr_Proper_(Don't want all the KDE stuff thats prereq for k3b)21:11
helo_ehh21:11
div-0rgr: i cant run that, i cant read a thing on that installation. im currently online with a lubuntu 10.10 livecd so that i can go online, and mount the wubi root.disk image21:11
eamonrgr: why is it silly to recommend to make an xorg.conf file?21:11
helo_it sure was the place to complain about unity yesterday, but ok :)21:12
ayrtoni updated my ubuntu to 11.04 but i think i got the netbook version,21:12
rgrarrrghhh: dont join the net nannying spammers please ...21:12
kjxl9is there a package that has drivers that deal with ps3 controllers?21:12
ayrtonhow do i change it to desktop21:12
gmachine_24_Mr_Proper_: I pretty much use anything and it works.21:12
eamonkjxl9: the drivers are in the kernel21:12
arrrghhhrgr, he was asking something that was highly opinionated...21:12
rgrkjxl9: http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html21:12
_Mr_Proper_Got a warning about corrupt data this time, and it wont open on any machines.. Perhaps I should reduce the burn speed manually21:12
arrrghhhpretty sure i'm not a 'net nannying spammer', thanks.21:12
rgrvery hard to find..21:12
LjLrgr: offtopic is offtopic, please don't discourage people from telling others where the appropriate place to discuss something is.21:13
Galvatronayrton: First of all, chceck if there are some options like "Classic" or "GNOME" in the session menu of login screen.21:13
gmachine_24_Mr_Proper_: I use CLI for burning CDs and DVDs and making iso files, etc. seems to be the easiest, fastest and most reliable21:13
eamonrgr: why do you say that making an xorg.conf file is silly?21:13
rgrarrrghhh: well, you just came back to say nfs was working. He just came back to say unity was working. I fail to see why you "botted" him. IMO theres too much of that in response to perfectly good and on topic answers.21:13
rgranywy glad its working. brb-21:14
gmachine_24_Mr_Proper_: you got a corrupt data error when?21:14
arrrghhhi'm kinda mad a reboot was the fix, but whatever.  i guess i don't need to troubleshoot it any further...21:14
pumeustgnu ddrescue manual says 'never try to rescue a r/w mounted partition'. how do i know if a partition is r/w so i can avoid this?21:14
kjxl9eamon, so i dont have to download any packages?21:14
MrMist1ohsix: rgr: Simple, really. I've got three drives. One for the OS.  The second drive contains home folders (samba shared). They're being used maybe once or twice a day. To have the disk spinning all the time is a waste of energy, and it's noisy. The third drive is the backup drive. I'm going to script it to copy drive 2 once every night. It's never being used for anything else. Hence, two of the drives should be spun down.21:14
Galvatron_Mr_Proper_: I' also read that the default Ubuntu burning backend - "wodim" - is kinda problematic, and oerally not too good, and so it's better to install "cdrtools" from a PPA.21:14
guntbertpumeust: type mount and look at the output21:15
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helo_i can't get my bcm4306 v 3 to work with ndiswrapper... it worked in 10.10, but now ndiswrapper -l says "alternate driver ssb" even though ssb is blacklisted, removed from initramfs, and not even loaded21:15
_Mr_Proper_gmachine_24, Galvatron, thanks21:15
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_Mr_Proper_gmachine_24, Bombono popped it up after the burn was meant to be complete21:15
ohsixMrMist1: you need not give me any justification, and wasn't your problem that it wasn't being applied?21:15
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: I am still having the same issue--nspluginwrapper and adobe-installer are not installing21:15
Galvatron_Mr_Proper_: Tou might also try getting rid of wodim.21:16
gmachine_24_Mr_Proper_: I use wodim without a problem.21:16
hihihi100i can see the log while my machine boots, like the whole screen was a terminal, how do I get a better looking screen during booting? its before I am asked to choose a user and password21:16
gmachine_24_Mr_Proper_: what burning software were you using?21:16
MrMist1ohsix: Yeah, it was meant for the other guy. I just wanted to tell you as well :) He wondered why I needed to spin them down :)21:16
_Mr_Proper_gmachine_24, Bombono DVD from the repo21:16
ohsixMrMist1: well, unless you want to waste your time, let him wonder; let me poke around a bit21:17
Eddim having trouble installing natty21:17
Galvatron_Mr_Proper_: Try things like Brasero, Gnome Baker or K3B21:17
KatronixSerfHi all, before Natty came out officially I was running Beta 2 of it, I should be able to upgrade to the full version right?21:17
gmachine_24_Mr_Proper_: ahh, see, I have not used that. any of the GUI cd/dvd burning programs have been a problem for me21:17
ohsixMrMist1: ok didn't have to look much! udev applies hdparm settings when drives show up, so it should apply at boot21:17
pumeustguntbert, thanks. so what do i do if i have a r/w mount partition i want to resuce?21:17
gmachine_24_Mr_Proper_: which is why I stick with the command line21:17
div-0is there a way to install the nivida drivers by just mounting the ubuntu partition from another system?21:18
Galvatron_Mr_Proper_: Of course, K3B is not exactly recommended for GNOME as installing it means a mess with downloading a lot of KDE components.21:18
ohsixMrMist1: barring udev not working, or you not using an intitramfs or some other odd special situation you've created for yourself, it should work21:18
MrMist1ohsix: I've changed the script /lib/udev/hdparam now... touching a file when it's run. Trying to boot to check if the file is being created21:18
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illmortalOk.. gonna restart my PC... this buggy panel is annoying.21:18
gmachine_24_Mr_Proper_: I literally never have a problem or bad disk21:18
_Mr_Proper_Yeah, I liked K3B in the past, but don't fancy KDE dependency hell.. I'd normally use CLI, but was kinda in a rush, so click and go was more what I was after!21:18
EddAfter installation of natty i get into a shell login, no GUI21:18
ohsixMrMist1: don't change those files, they will be overwritten on an update21:18
ohsixMrMist1: er nm that's probably ok21:19
_Mr_Proper_Doing it in DeVeDe now, at a reduced rate, we'll see what happens :) Thanks for the help21:19
ohsixMrMist1: you can just ask udev to be noisy about what it's doing, and do it without a reboot even21:19
MrMist1ohsix: It's ok.. it's just for debugging purposes. Hehe21:19
GalvatronKatronixSerf: All you need to do is installing all  the latest updates and you are home.21:19
ohsixMrMist1: sec i'll whip up something to run21:19
Guest1956katronixSerf i had no trouble upgrading it21:19
MrMist1ohsix: Thanks. I'm booting now to see if the script creates the file21:20
gmachine_24_Mr_Proper_: for the  most part the GUI dvd burners in Linux are just that .... graphic interfaces for command line programs21:20
gmachine_24so....................21:20
ohsixMrMist1: udevadm test /sys/block/sdd it will run udev and tell you everything it does, here it says at the end: udevadm_test: run: '/lib/udev/hdparm'21:20
Eddany1 can answer ?21:20
eamondiv-0: are you still having trouble with the nvidia drivers?21:21
gmachine_24Edd: you boot the computer and it goes straight to a c:/?21:21
div-0eamon yes21:21
guntbertpumeust: if it you just want to check the file system:  The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check21:21
Eddgmachine_24 goes straight to grub21:21
Eddi choose the kernel21:21
Eddi login to tty21:21
Eddstartx fails with an error of not installed pkg of xinit21:22
BladeFreakI'm trying to install QT4 on ubuntu, is there no package for it?21:22
Eddnever had this error since ubuntu 721:22
tuxzwhat do you think is the best distro for gnome 3?21:22
LjL!best | tuxz21:22
ubottutuxz: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.21:22
tuxzBladeFreak: its just called qt21:22
eamondiv-0: have you tried following this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto If so, what step are you stuck on?21:22
gmachine_24Edd: after choosing a kernel why does it go to a tty?21:22
Dr_WillisEdd:  i saw that on some OTHER disrto then ubuntu once. you are having this issue in 11.04 ?21:22
tuxzLjL: i asked your opinion21:22
pumeustguntbert, what if i wanted to recover partition or data?21:22
LjLBladeFreak: uhm, it will get installed automatically when you install a package that depends on it21:22
Eddgmachine_24 it gives the loading screen of pkgs21:22
MrMist1ohsix: The hdparm.called was NOT created during boot. Which again means that /lib/udev/hdparm is not being called21:22
Eddthen it gives an error of no turbo driver or something21:23
LjLtuxz: and i have to tell you that unfortunately opinion polls are not allowed in this 1730-people channel. try #ubuntu-offtopic21:23
Eddand i login to tty21:23
div-0eamon: the problem is i cant access the system. i'm only able to mount the partition from within a livecd i booted21:23
guntbertpumeust: best begin by telling what your problem is :)21:23
MrMist1ohsix: Ehm.. but I'm just booting using "sudo reboot", not a physical on/off. Should I try that?21:23
div-0eamon: the screen is unreadable (see screenshot here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742929&highlight=1520 )21:23
gmachine_24Edd: I guess if you hit cntrl + alt + F7 you get nothing....?21:23
tuxzljL: but if in your opinion the answer to my question is ubuntu then its not offtopic, is it?21:23
Eddi gues tthe boot screen21:23
LjLtuxz: no, still offtopic21:24
Eddcontaining the running rpocesses21:24
gmachine_24Edd: ok21:24
LjLtuxz: ontopic for here is Ubuntu technical support. opinion polls don't fall under technical support.21:24
Tetsuo55can anyon reproduce this? with chrome as the default browser i click on a link in konversation, and instead of switching to chrome the desktop crashes and i have to log in again. and apport does not catch this event21:24
gmachine_24Edd: I'm afraid this is above my pay grade21:24
Eddok gmachine_2421:24
cabbagemoonlightis there an easy way to use vnc securely?  i need a tutorial21:24
gmachine_24Edd: have you searched for the error you get re: turbo driver on google or ubuntu?21:24
Eddah21:25
tuxzi wouldnt call whats the name of the qt4 package technical either. but whatever. enjoy your saturday evening21:25
Eddthat's the perfect error21:25
Dr_Williscabbagemoonlight:  a ssh tunnle is the normal way to secure it.21:25
MrMist1ohsix: Strange... tried your test, and it still says it's trying running the file, but no "hdparm.called" file is being created21:25
Dr_Willis!vnc | cabbagemoonlight21:25
ubottucabbagemoonlight: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX21:25
Eddgmachine_24: plymouth command failed21:25
srauetuxz: try Fedora 15 (live)21:25
Edddisconnected from plymouth21:25
BladeFreakLjL: I'm trying to compile a build that requires QT4 as a dependency, i tried "sudo apt-get install qt" , but I get a "E: Unable to locate package qt"21:25
Edd>>> mountall21:25
cabbagemoonlight!FreeNX21:25
ubottuFreeNX is advanced remote desktop technology. For more information and install instructions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeNX21:25
LjLBladeFreak: ah, then you need the -dev packages. hold on while i find the name21:25
pumeustguntbert, i need to recover data from hard drives so i've been reading up on the subject and i just wanted to make sure i dont try to rescue a r/w mount since the manual says not to do this, and to know what to do if what i want to recover happens to be r/w mount21:25
eamondiv-0: I can link you to an advaced guide that will allow you to hi-jack the system from a live cd and edit the root filesystem from the livecd as though it were the native root filesystem of the environment21:25
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cabbagemoonlightthanks Dr_Willis21:25
LjL!info libqt4-dev | BladeFreak21:25
ubottuBladeFreak: libqt4-dev (source: qt4-x11): Qt 4 development files. In component main, is optional. Version 4:4.7.2-0ubuntu6 (natty), package size 2862 kB, installed size 27940 kB21:25
eamondiv-0: This is kihd of advanced, do you want that guide?21:26
gmachine_24Edd: I am clueless about the plymouth command21:26
div-0eamon: sure, at this point i try everything :)21:26
ohsixMrMist1: well test doesn't actually run it, it just says what is done when the device name shows up, ie. what's done at boot21:26
guntbertpumeust: in that case it is best you do everything after booting from a live CD21:26
BladeFreakLjL: it's working, thanks for taking the trouble to help :)21:26
MrMist1but it should create the file as soon as the script is run.. and it hasn't been created21:27
kroimpahi bnguys, when i try to allow 192.168.1.0/24 to access port 22 tcp using: ufw allow from 192.168.1.0/24 to tcp port 22, it gives a a bad destination address21:27
kroimpaany idea why?21:27
asdf_mscanybody gotten WoW working after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04?21:27
ohsixMrMist1: let me look some more, i don't know of any circumstances where it might be disabled, but it very well may be for some reason on server21:27
kroimparoot@kroimpa:~# ufw allow from 192.168.1.0/24 to tcp port 13921:28
kroimpaERROR: Bad destination address21:28
gmachine_24Edd: did you check something like this? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/plymouth-command-failed-868723/21:28
cabbagemoonlightone more question, is there an easy way (GUI) to set up a ssh server?21:28
LjLcabbagemoonlight: uhm, what is there to set up?21:28
ohsixcabbagemoonlight: what's to set up?21:28
Augustuen@cabbagemoonlight sudo apt-get install openssh-server21:28
cabbagemoonlighti mean all the authentication and whatnots..its looks too complex21:28
BladeFreakbtw, I must say, Ubuntu 11.04 rocks! I'm impressed by the improvements since 9.04... It detected my 3g usb modem and was easy to connect, it was even easier than in windows   :O21:29
_Mr_Proper_cabbagemoonlight, it works pretty well as it comes21:29
MrMist1ohsix: I called "head /lib/udev/hdparm" - http://paste.ubuntu.com/601453/21:29
_Mr_Proper_for basic use21:29
ohsixcabbagemoonlight: well key and interactive authentication is enabled by default, so you shoul only need to set it up for extremely specialized situations21:29
LjLcabbagemoonlight: ah, i guess it is a bit, if you want to work with keys. not too familiar with that, but anyway remember you need to set most of that in the *client*, i think...21:29
cabbagemoonlightok, so is there a beginners tutorial you can recomend?21:29
ohsixLjL: server has settings for allowed encodings and authentication methods that can be used by the client,  but they rarely need changing21:30
AugustuenWhat should I do if an application I'm trying to compile needs libgtk1.2-dev?21:30
_Mr_Proper_cabbagemoonlight, http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=set+up+ubuntu+ssh+server&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk21:30
_Mr_Proper_:)21:30
ohsixAugustuen: is it a newer version of a package already in ubuntu?21:30
LjLcabbagemoonlight: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html21:30
ohsix!google | _Mr_Proper_21:30
ubottu_Mr_Proper_: While Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.21:30
LjL_Mr_Proper_: that's not very useful21:30
ohsix_Mr_Proper_: and there is a server guide :]21:30
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eamondiv-0: This is a gentoo guide. Use your liveCD and open a terminal, then mount your root filesystem that you want to install drivers on to "/mnt/gentoo" (the name does not matter, its whats used in the guide) the follow the steps at "entering the new environment" on http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=6 then start installing the nvidia packages according to this21:31
eamonguide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia21:31
FloodBot2eamon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:31
ohsixLjL \is beating me to everything today21:31
_Mr_Proper_I used the second one on the list when I set up I think21:31
Augustuenohsix: libgtk1.2-dev is no longer available with apt-get :(21:31
ohsixAugustuen: oh 1.221:31
* LjL beats ohsix up with a wet towel21:31
ohsixAugustuen: what program is it?21:31
div-0eamon: ok thanks, i'll try21:31
Augustuenohsix: Putty21:31
asdf_mscanyone notice what's broken in this? fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32ed74,0x00000000), stub!21:31
tasslehoffwhich gmail indicator/notifier is a good choice in 11.04?21:31
logi01Is it possible to deactivate global menu in 11.04?21:31
_Mr_Proper_Right, DVD burned successfully with the ubuntu built in disc creator, time to try it out :)21:31
ohsixAugustuen: is there something wrong with the version in the repos?21:31
kroimpaany idea when i connt ad this rule? im using the correct format: ufw allow from <ip address> to <protocol> port <port number>21:31
LjLlogi01: it probably will be deactivated if you select a Classical login21:32
kroimparoot@kroimpa:~# ufw allow from 192.168.1.0/24 to tcp port 13921:32
kroimpaERROR: Bad destination address21:32
Augustuenlogi01: if you use the "old" gnome UI21:32
tasslehoffUsed checkgmail before, but wonder if there is anything better out there21:32
Barridustasslehoff, evolution handles gmail21:32
pumeustguntbert,  i see. i was wondering if r/w mount is a thing i can change so its no longer r/w mount so i can then try to rescue it...anyways i didnt know its best to do this from live cd...i read that the important thing is to first copy image of the disc to another disc21:32
Augustuenohsix: the application needs 1.221:32
trismlogi01: or: sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu; then log out/back in21:32
Barridusand thunderbird21:32
logi01ok thx21:32
tasslehoffBarridus: I don't want a client, just a notifier.21:32
ohsixAugustuen: the version in the repos uses gtk2, what's wrong with the already built packages?21:33
LjLkroimpa: shouldn't it be: ufw allow proto tcp from 192.168.1.0/24 to any port 13921:33
Augustuentasslehoff: If you use google chrome, you can enable it on gmail.com21:33
kroimpaLjL, ill try that out man :D21:33
Augustuenohsix: I'm going to be using the code from Putty to experiment with SSH21:33
KM0201tasslehoff: you want a gmail notifier?21:33
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linuxnetworkmobiHello21:34
ohsixAugustuen: ah well, i'd be really surprised if it didn't offer a way to build with gtk2, and isn't the ssh part separated from teh ui? is this something you cant use openssl or nss or gnutls for?21:34
tasslehoffKM0201: yeah. have used gmail-notify and checkgmail, but wonder if there are any indicator applet notifiers21:34
MrMist1ohsix: Couldn't I just create a .sh file calling "hdparm -S 120 /dev/sdd ?21:34
ezro메ㅏ21:34
ezropark21:34
kroimpaLjL, thanks man! that worked :d21:34
kroimpa*:D21:34
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KM0201tasslehoff: you should be able to configure mail-notification, to work w/ gmail (i always use checkgmail, nt really sure on the others)21:35
malvanyone having this middle click repeat problem?21:35
ezrofgf21:35
guntbertpumeust: if the disc does not carry part of the actual system (like in forensic examinations) then you can do it from a running system too - step 1) unmount it with   sudo umount  <mount-point>21:35
Augustuenohsix: Doing a make now instead of using the script provided, looks like it's going good21:35
Rehanwhy does unity require so many more mouseclicks to get to an app compared to gnome2? Am I doing something wrong?21:35
arrrghhhRehan, popular apps i would imagine you put on the bar21:36
arrrghhhso it's one click...21:36
Rehanarrrghhh: i see21:36
ohsixMrMist1: you could but it wouldn't fix whatever problem is stopping it from working as it is now21:37
lsvwhat does Maverick, Natty, Lucid, Karmic, and Hardy refer to?21:37
arrrghhhRehan, you can always go back to "Ubuntu Classic"21:37
arrrghhhlsv, releases21:37
MrMist1ohsix: Hehe... I know. But where would I place such a script?21:37
Rehanarrrghhh: yeah i'm trying to get used to Unity but its just hard to imagine anything being more efficient than a tree hierarchy21:37
arrrghhhlsv, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases if you want to know moar21:37
Rehanarrrghhh: will give it some more time21:37
RansoogardHello. I have an issue with trying to get Ubuntu to boot without text output after grub and before choosing my user account.21:38
lsvarrrghhh, thanks.  Is there any way of checkin which one I have using the bash?21:38
ohsixMrMist1: rc.local, drives get reset at runtime and stuff so it might not stick forever past boot21:38
pumeustguntbert, thanks for the info21:38
arrrghhhRehan, up to you entirely.  i wasn't a big fan of it myself.21:38
lsv*bash21:38
RansoogardSpecifically I think xsplash isn't working.21:38
ohsixRehan: i don't think one of the goals was efficiency over existing things21:38
l1nuxman/etc/init.d/asterisk-1.8 status won't even return command not found or whatever. Why not?21:38
MrMist1ohsix: Should I create a bug report or something about this issue?21:38
arrrghhhlsv, yes.21:38
l1nuxmanI have asterisk-1.8 installed21:38
ohsixMrMist1: yea, bonus if you can find the cause, searching to see if there is one already would probably be good21:38
chotazHey everyone, anyone knows a good automated program to upload files on multiple filehosts for ubuntu?21:39
guntbertpumeust: you're welcome :-)  ... and Good luck :-)21:39
arrrghhhlsv, sorry.  lsb_release -a.21:39
arrrghhhi kept typing lsb_release and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working :P21:39
lsvarrrghh, thank you so much.  You're my new best friend :D21:39
MrMist1ohsix: I don't know if I know enough about udev to be able to find where the fault is ?21:39
nbfgreat I upgrade to natty and it won't boot21:40
arrrghhhlsv, lol np21:40
Soothsayerhow do I put an app that was not installed through a package into the programs so its accessible through the launcher ?21:40
nbf"loading initial ramdisk"21:40
nbfand it hangs21:40
Dr_WillisSoothsayer:  you could make a proper .desktop file for it. there should be 1000's of .desktop files for other apps to use as an example21:40
cousin_mariohello21:40
arrrghhhlsv, also tab-complete should be your new best friend :D.  you can tab complete usernames in here, just type arr -> tab21:40
hobbelIs there a way to make unity hide a program on click? clicking on an active icon slides the unity launcher out instead of hiding the program :s21:40
cousin_mariovolume applet has disappeared: how do I put it back in the system tray?21:41
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lsvarrrghhh: OMG! you have become my best friend forever!!21:41
Eddany1 hada problem after installing 11.04 ?21:41
MrMist1Edd: Yep... having problems with hdparm.21:41
viper474How can I pass a value between classes?21:41
arrrghhhlsv, yea i'm addicted to tab complete in the terminal.  you can do it basically everywhere in the CLI21:42
ActionParsnipcousin_mario: ALT+F2 and run: gnome-volume-control21:42
RehanEdd: i had the usual pain in the ass that comes with having an nvidia graphics card21:42
ActionParsnipEdd: installed flawlessly here21:42
LjLviper474: err, you will want to ask that in ##c++ ##java or whichever language you're using :P21:42
Dr_Willis!ccsm21:42
ubottuTo enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz21:42
herol3oydoes anyone here upgrade his/her ubuntu 10.10 by this >> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       just wanna know that everything is cool now?21:42
herol3oyno problem?21:42
arrrghhhherol3oy, you should use do-release-upgrade21:42
viper474LjL: oh, sorry I though I was in the java room, sorry21:42
Eddargh21:42
Eddi cant get my GUI21:42
ActionParsnipherol3oy: dist-upgrade won't give you natty21:42
lsvI also use it, but I didn't know I could use it here.21:42
Eddthis is another error with intel21:42
Rehanohsix: are you using 11.04 and if so are you using unity or not?21:42
ActionParsnipEdd: do you boot to a black screen?21:42
drhydraliskCan someone help me get my headphones working? They were working before I restarted21:43
ohsixMrMist1: if udevadm test says it's running the helper then it's not udev21:43
LjLdrhydralisk: try starting "alsamixer" and seeing if there is a headphones slider21:43
ohsixRehan: not21:43
Glycan_Where are system settings in 11.4?21:43
herol3oyarrrghhh: why this ? what is difrennt?21:43
MrMist1ohsix: but it's not being run..21:43
EddActionParsnip yup :) the tty21:43
eamondrhydralisk: I will try to help.21:44
drhydraliskLjL: ok, ill try21:44
ActionParsnipEdd: add the bootoption: nomodeset21:44
ohsixGlycan_: click on the top right thing with your login name, options are at the bottom of the menu21:44
drhydraliskeamon: thx, trying alasamixer first hold on21:44
ohsixMrMist1: right, looking into that now; had to get something to eath21:44
EddActionParsnip it will fix the P{lymouth error ?21:44
Glycan_ohsix: Thank you21:44
eamondrhydralisk: that's what I was gonna tell you to try :)21:44
ActionParsnipGlycan_: press ALT+F2 and type the thing you want to run, it will suggest things as you type21:44
ActionParsnipEdd: should do21:44
Eddlet's try21:44
eamondrhydralisk: look for master and PCM. Make sure both of those are not muted.21:45
ebiesterHowdy all. My xorg.conf is broken without backup. I want to regenerate, but the only thing I saw while googling was uninstalling xorg and reinstalling/dpkg-reconfigure. Is there a less drastic option?21:45
herol3oywhat's the diffrent between do-release-upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?????21:45
onelinerbuahaha, evolution is trying to deal with 6 gigs of mail21:45
helio_anajulia21:45
kwriteI can't see the b43 drivers in additional drivers. I installed fwcutter, and the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer just like I did in Ubuntu 10.10. I got it working then. Any ideas?21:45
onelinerits actually getting there :)21:45
ohsixMrMist1: if you do "DEVNAME=/dev/sdd /lib/udev/hdparm" does it apply your settings to sdd?21:45
MrMist1ohsix: I'm really grateful for the help, but I don't want to keep you from eating21:45
cousin_marioActionParsnip: it shows no icon21:45
ohsixebiester: move it out of the way21:45
ohsixMrMist1: already ate, forgot i was helping someone :o21:46
drhydraliskeamon: there is no master thing, only PCM (which was not muted)21:46
ActionParsnipebiester: boot to root recovery mode and run: Xorg -configure and it will make a vanilla file, you can copy it to /etc/X11 and it may help21:46
ohsixebiester: you shouldn't need an xorg.conf21:46
ebiesterohsix: I'm currently running without any xorg.conf. :)21:46
EddActionParsnip: unknow boot option 'nomodeset'21:46
ohsixebiester: welcome to this century ;] what do you need a .conf for?21:46
ActionParsnipEdd: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html21:46
Galvatronebieste: What is your video card?21:46
arrrghhhherol3oy, i suggest you read the manpage.  if you have we can discuss it.21:47
EddActionParsnip lucid fix problem will solve natty's ?21:47
ActionParsnipohsix: ubuntu server uses smb.conf to configure shares....21:47
MrMist1ohsix: Hmm... interesting. When I call "sudo DEVNAME=/dev/sdd /lib/udev/hdparm" I get "No disk enabled. Exiting"21:47
ActionParsnipEdd: yes it should help21:47
ohsixActionParsnip: what does that have to do with anything?21:47
eamondrhydralisk: Are you sure there was no master? What was the firstone, on the very left?21:47
ohsixMrMist1: eh ok, with sudo you need to do sudo sh -c 'DEVNAME=/dev/sda /lib/udev/hdparm'21:47
drhydraliskeamon: Headphon21:47
ActionParsnipohsix: well in this century people use ubuntu server, so "what do you need a .conf for" is one reply21:47
eamonebiester: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" should do it21:48
ebiesterohsix: I have a new laptop that has two separate video cards, so I can't tell if it's running on the intel or the nvidia chipset right now. However, when I upgraded to 11.04, I got a popup that said my video card wasn't powerful enough to run unity.21:48
MrMist1ohsix: I tried doing a "sudo sh -" first as well, and calling it without sudo... same result21:48
ohsixActionParsnip: point of fact, he was asking about xorg.conf21:48
ebiesterWhich... seems a bit silly with a 2 month old laptop21:48
ActionParsnipohsix: my monitor needs xorg.conf too21:48
lsvok one more question.  How can I change my start up setting so Ubuntu starts in text mode?21:48
MrMist1ohsix: eeeh... "sudo su -" not "sudo sh -"21:48
ohsixActionParsnip: i really don't care, this isn't helping this person21:48
ActionParsniplsv: add the boot option "text"21:48
Augustuenohsix: I get warning: macro `AM_PATH_GTL` not found in library21:48
rgrwow, is he STILL spouting nonsense about not needing an xorg,conf? Streuth.21:48
ohsixMrMist1: sudo -- sh -c 'DEVNAME=/dev/sda /lib/udev/hdparm' agh ;]21:48
ActionParsnipohsix: neither is asking why do they need a .conf21:48
pattysmattywhat's an rss program?21:49
arrrghhhherol3oy, basically dist-upgrade prepares your system for an distro upgrade.  it removes obsolete packages, unlike a regular upgrade command.21:49
ohsixActionParsnip: i'm at my wits end, i'm asking why he needs a conf so i can tell him how to regenerate it. seriously back off21:49
EddActionParsnip i read the site, this is not my error21:49
lsvActionParsnip: where would I change that?  In grub?21:49
ActionParsnippattysmatty: do you want to know what rss is or do you want to know some possible app names ?21:49
Eddmy error is : i login to tty no GUI21:49
Augustuenpattysmatt: an RSS program gets a feed from a server, where for example a website updates you on new articles and such21:49
pattysmattyActionParsnip, the latter21:49
Edderro: mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth21:49
ohsixActionParsnip: if he has an exceptional situataion and needs one, guess what! he needs one21:49
drhydraliskpattysmath: what do you mean, "what is an rss program" or what is a good client to use?21:49
ActionParsniplsv: yes add it in /etc/default/grub   in the quotes with: quiet splash21:49
eamonrgr: who are you referring to?21:49
ohsixebiester: ok21:49
ActionParsnipohsix: then you answered your own question21:50
helo_anyone know how to force banshee to download cover art? the extension says it automatically runs, but it isn't on one machine, and is on the other21:50
ebiesterActionParsnip. I assumed I needed one because I've always had one since '97 and when there was an xconfigurator. I'm not wedded to having one, but right now, flash is having trouble and unity won't run, so I assumed there was a problem.21:50
pattysmattydrhydralisk, the programs i can use to follow rss21:50
ohsixebiester: either video card you are using should work with unity, something else is going on21:50
ActionParsnippattysmatty: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-rss-readers-available-in-ubuntu.html21:50
MrMist1ohsix: Identical results, all of them21:50
MrMist1ohsix: "No disk enabled. Exiting"21:50
ohsixMrMist1: paste your hdparm.conf to a pastebin21:50
lsvActionParsnip: I see... Thanks a bunch!21:50
ActionParsniplsv: you will need to run:  sudo update-grub   after adding it21:50
ohsixActionParsnip: he doesn't have an exceptional situation, he has a vga switcheroo21:50
MrMist1ohsix: It's nothing in it almost21:50
drhydraliskpattysmatty: don't rule out Google Reader21:51
LjLpattysmatty: also, gpodder, yarssr, firefox-sage, canto, xpn  —  GNOME: liferea, straw, evolution-rss  —  GNUstep: rssreader.app  —  KDE: knode, akregator  —  console: snownews, newsbeuter, rsstail, olive, nrss21:51
hihihi100i can see the log while my machine boots, like the whole screen was a terminal, how do I get a better looking screen during booting? its before I am asked to choose a user and password21:51
ohsixActionParsnip: now kindly do without the interjections of opinion, i'm gonna write you off entirely if you keep it up21:51
ActionParsnipohsix: your call21:51
pattysmattythanks all21:51
pattysmattybig help :)21:51
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MrMist1ohsix: hmm... I've got an idea..21:51
ebiesterohsix: Sometimes I think a decade+ of unix experience gets in my way with ubuntu. :) -- what would be the best route for debugging this?21:52
ohsixrgr: again, #ubuntu-offtopic, if you have anything to say; lets make it something to help people, that's the entire idea of this channel21:52
eamonhihihi100: would you like the screen to be blank until the username and password?21:52
* kath ....tryed to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04... At the last 2min off upgrade, before Recycle.... it just stoped... after 15min I turned off my hp comp... but yea.. now ater 1houer ..i sitt with 10.10.... and a prim part with unfinished 11.0421:52
MrMist1ohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601466/21:52
scoffinis it possible to move the "top of screen" app menus back into the app window?  [11.04, unity]21:52
eamongood for kath21:52
lsvActionParsnip: like this >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text quiet splash" ?21:52
ohsixebiester: well, first, open a terminal and paste the output of glxinfo to paste.ubuntu.com21:52
SnakkahCan anyone tell me how to make ALL tooltips (the little black descriptors that appear in menus and applications) transparent? For now, it seems to only apply to my panel menus.21:52
MrMist1I'm commenting out the "quiet" line now... wonder if that's the issue21:52
ActionParsniplsv: looks great21:52
hiexpois there a wya to passwordfolders21:53
jribscoffin: yes, remove indicator-appmenu iirc21:53
kath.. eamon f you..lol ;)..... not good at all......21:53
hiexpo^way21:53
hihihi100eamon, id like to see the usplash bar at least21:53
Soothsayeranyone running gnom3 on ubuntu 11.04?21:53
ohsixMrMist1: you have a stray } :O21:53
kath... any one that has upgraded to 11.0421:53
crystal-colaA window went under the bar at the top my screen!!! I can't get it out!!!21:53
hihihi100eamon, together with the ubuntu logo21:53
ActionParsniphiexpo: you can make the folder owned by your user only, then you will only have access if you chmod 600 it21:53
LjLcrystal-cola: try hitting Alt+F321:53
ohsixSoothsayer: gnome3 is only available from a ppa right now, so you won't get much support for it here21:53
andyccSoothsayer, I did run it for a while, but reverted to Unity.21:53
scoffinjrib:  sorry, is that an installed package or some setting ?21:53
Dr_Williscrystal-cola:  hold down alt, click, move it around  is another way21:53
jribscoffin: it's a package21:53
crystal-colathank you!!21:53
ohsixSoothsayer: you can try just asking your question, but don't expect a lot ;]21:54
MrMist1ohsix: argh... still same result after commenting out the line21:54
notlisteningRight i have a bit of a problem with compiz and the negative plugin, I can't get new windows to be generated in negative and ideas?21:54
hiexpoActionParsnip, thanks21:54
ebiesterohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601467/21:54
scoffinok, I will try it......   IMHO: that "mac" style is not compatible with focus-follows-mouse21:54
BlouBlouanyone knows how to install openarena without installing 'ioquake3'? it seems it's a dependency, but in 10.10 was not21:54
kathhavent been on irc since 2000......  but still almost the same..21:54
ohsixMrMist1: you need to read the spindown time with a command other than hdparm -I, -I was just to check to see if aam/apm was on, which can impact drives spinning down21:55
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Soothsayerandycc, why did you revert?21:55
ohsixMrMist1: sorry if i wasn't explicit before, i thought you added apm settings to allow spindowns21:55
rgrebiester: I missed your card. Which is it?21:55
kath... So BlouBlou................... the 10.10 was better?.....21:55
MrMist1ohsix: I did, but since the file isn't being called anyway21:55
eamonhihihi100: have a looky here http://lmgtfy.com/?q=custom+boot+screen+ubuntu21:55
MrMist1ohsix: I removed them again. Less is more21:55
Soothsayerohsix, :-P I'm having some issues with Unity.. tell me how would I go about this? I have this java which I've placed in /opt/phpstorm/ . So I execute /opt/phpstorm/bin/run.sh to run the app... how do I make this accessible to the launcher ?21:56
MrMist1ohsix: I had "apm = 127" before, but it did nothing.21:56
ohsixMrMist1: try the DEVNAME thing again with the stray } removed21:56
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SnakkahEDIT: Nevermind, got it.21:56
lsvActionParsnip: does changing that line in /etc/default/grub changes how I would log into the windows partition? (a little ashamed of this)21:56
ADSDShi21:56
MrMist1ohsix: aaah... there's a stray }?? Didn't see that one..21:57
ohsixebiester: ok so it's not using either of your video cards, but vesa or something; did you use nomodeset when you booted or otherwise have to do anything special to get it to start?21:57
ActionParsniplsv: no, the options are only added to the linux kernels as far as I know21:57
ADSDSwhats the new ubuntu21:57
ohsixSoothsayer: no clue on that one, you can create a .desktop file and put it in the right place; that's all the old panel "create launcher" thing did21:57
Eddmountall: Disconnected from Plymouth <<< any idea ?21:57
tarvidneed suggestion on video accelerator for Intel Mobile 4 in an Acer 7736x-4088 laptop21:57
ezrowho know where is the theme folder?21:57
herol3oywhich one is better?  do-release-upgrade  or download the ubuntu11.4 ISO file and then mount the ISO file and >>>gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"   ????21:57
ADSDSwhats the new ubuntu21:58
ohsixEdd: if you don't have a video card or have one without kms, that's a normal message21:58
jamie4Any way to have the [FILE] [EDIT] etc menus to always show on the bar in Unity?21:58
MrMist1ohsix: Now we're talking.. it's being run now...21:58
Dr_Willisezro:  system wide? or user specific?21:58
rgrADSDS: Ask a Q if you have one ;)21:58
silvraxi just upgraded to 11.04, now when I hoover some buttons/menus etc and a tooltip appears, my mouse cursor itself actally dissappears, which i find very annoying. Does anyone know what is wrong there? (i'm using gnome, not unity)21:58
Dr_Willis /usr/share/themes/21:58
Dr_Willisor /home/username/.themes21:58
Soothsayerohsix, ye i managed to move it into unity launcher.. and it works.. but the problem is now when the app launches, it doesn't appear in the unity taskbar!21:58
ezrothanks21:58
ohsixrgr: even when you have the potential to answer ... D:21:58
ebiesterohsix: The nvidia is Nvidia GeForce GT 540M -- I had to look it up. But the series of events is. 1. Install 10.10. 2. try to install the proprietary extension, which kills X. 3. After trying to get the open source nv or intel working, delete xorg.conf. 4. Upgrade to Natty21:58
lsvActionParsnip: ok, thanks, will reboot after some update finishes.  Thanks again.21:59
ohsixADSDS: 11.04, it was released a few days ago21:59
Soothsayerohsix, that's so bizarre cause how would I find that window :-|21:59
rgrebiester: have you ran nvidia-settings or sgfxi?21:59
Eddohsix i used ubuntu since v.721:59
herol3oywhich one is better? do-release-upgrade or download the ubuntu11.4 ISO file and then mount the ISO file and >>>gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" ????21:59
Eddnever had this error21:59
Eddon the same laptop21:59
kjxl9hey guys, i need some help with terminal21:59
ohsixSoothsayer: ah you'll have to look at other .desktop files that do, something with bamfdaemon does that i think21:59
kjxl9it's asking me for my password but nothing i type comes up22:00
ActionParsnipherol3oy: the upgrade online will use the most recent debs, using the alternate ISO willonly give you the version on the cD, you will then need to upgrade online22:00
hauptstrasseherol3oy, it doesn't matter. if you upgrade over the network, you'll get the latest packages, which might not be the case if you use the cdrom.22:00
ActionParsnipkjxl9: it doesn't give feedback,just type it and hit enter22:00
ohsixebiester: hm ok so you need to nuke the bits of the nvidia driver left around, did you install the .bin from nvidia or something from a package manager?22:00
lsvkjxl9: that's normal. Just type the password and press enter22:00
Soothsayerohsix, why does it have to be so complicated?22:00
cousin_mariobbl22:00
kjxl9thanks22:00
notlisteningcan anyone else get negative to work in 11.04 for me22:01
ohsixSoothsayer: heh it may not be consoling,  but it's actually simpler now22:01
herol3oythanks guys!22:01
ohsixSoothsayer: it's at least defined and theres software to do it for you :\22:01
notlisteningif you turn if onto all windows do new windows inherit negativity?22:01
* herol3oy bye22:02
noob25Hello guys I've just installed Ubuntu 11.04 and I installed an application called xsensors but it's only showing me the temperature of 1 thing and I have no idea of what. It should be showing me 1x Internal, 1x CPU, 1x GPU, 2x HDD. Are there any tools built into Ubuntu so I can check whether  it's a problem with Ubuntu or the software?22:02
Soothsayerohsix, im still confused as to what to do. I believe this is going to happen for all java programs then.22:02
hauptstrassenoob25, acpi -t22:02
ohsixnotlistening: theres no distinction for new windows, it's done as they're all rendered22:02
Dr_Willisnotlistening:  I thought it was a 'per window' or 'entire desktop' setting.22:02
asdfasdfasdfasdfhello is it possible to add a song to loved list at last.fm with Exaile music player? according to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/exaile/+bug/739264 there seem to be a plugin to do that, but i can't find it anywhere :(22:02
ubottuUbuntu bug 739264 in Exaile "Last,fm Loved Tracks plugin fails on unload" [Low,Fix committed]22:02
ohsixnotlistening: so if you do per window it's just that window, or the entire desktop it's the whole thing22:02
Acriaxhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217328 <-- the last 3 comments on this page made my day :D22:02
Dr_Willisnotlistening:  some compiz settings/plugins can break unity. so be carefull with them :)22:03
notlisteningohsix, well thats what i mean22:03
ohsixSoothsayer: if the launcher is right it should work as expected22:03
notlisteningohsix, open a new app :P22:03
ohsixnotlistening: if it's to the desktop it still applies to the new window, but let me try here to confirm22:03
Eddive never been disappointed with linux till this day22:03
ebiesterohsix: I installed it from the popup in ubuntu. (Sorry, that was a few weeks ago, I don't have the exact other than remember it suggesting proprietary drivers.) I got rid of all of that, but natty seems to have brought some of it back. Do I just purge all of this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601469/22:03
ActionParsnipEdd: do you not mean ubuntu?22:04
ohsixnotlistening: wow! that's a bug haha22:04
MrMist1ohsix: Seems like it's working now for the two drives I have mountet, but the backup-drive which I'm not mounting won't go into standby mode. Any idea why? Can I place it in standby mode during boot?22:04
noob25hauptstrasse I have to install it, could this be a reason why it's not reading or is this just a separate tool?22:04
ohsixnotlistening: please report it so i can mark it as affecting me as well, i use it often22:04
EddActionParsnip i mean ubuntu ! wt' sthis error regarding plymouth22:04
Eddnever had it!22:04
andeeeukis there any way with 11.04 to add a mail notification for thunderbird?22:04
notlisteningohsix, I have a long list of them :)22:04
ActionParsnipEdd: you don't have to use plymouth22:04
Rehan_anytime I fill out the information in the About Me section in ubuntu and hit close, it never saves anything. Why is that?22:04
ohsixebiester: ah ok that was probably jockey and it shouldn't have broken anything you can't just remove, sec22:04
notlisteningohsix, I will post the report soon22:04
andeeeukon the menu bar22:04
EddActionParsnip how can i get rid of it ?22:04
ohsixnotlistening: post a bug instead, on launchpad.net22:05
ohsixnotlistening: that's a functionality change from .8 that i'm pretty sure wasn't intended22:05
Soothsayerohsix, the application executes fine.. just that it does not show as an icon in the left unity taskbar22:05
ActionParsnipEdd: remove the bootoptions: quiet splash      and you will boot in text mode22:05
hauptstrassenoob25, its a seperate tool22:05
rgrandeeeuk: use a third party mail notifier.22:05
EddActionParsnip i booted in text mode, i want GUI22:05
ohsixSoothsayer: then it's missing some entries in the .desktop file to make that work22:05
andeeeukon the menu bar?22:05
ActionParsnipEdd: yes it will boot in text mode, then load the desktop22:05
noob25hauptstrasse ok thanks22:05
rgrpossibly something like gnubiff. There are multiple possibilities.22:06
EddActionParsnip u mean via: startx ?22:06
lsvme bye22:06
* lsv bye22:06
ohsixrgr: who are you speaking to?22:06
andeeeukrgr which app would you recomend?22:06
jamie4Question about Unity - anyone hacking it yet?22:06
ActionParsnipEdd: gdm will load once the system has fully booted22:06
lsvquit22:06
Soothsayerohsix, ok see I created a new "Menu Item" in the "Main Menu" dialog in the Control Centre.22:06
EddActionParsnip nothing is loading22:06
ActionParsnipEdd: you just won't see plymouth22:06
Edd:/22:06
godMitaxanybody can help me installing bt4 r2 tools on ubuntu 11.04 ?22:06
Eddthat's the point22:06
godMitaxanybody can help me installing bt4 r2 tools on ubuntu 11.04 ?22:07
andeeeukrgr which app would you recomend for mail notifications??22:07
Soothsayerohsix, http://i.imgur.com/doyxY.png22:07
ebiesterohsix: If you said something, could you repeat it? I just accidentally cleared the window.22:07
starredsteriaHey.... has anyone had any issues starting ubuntu after installing nvidia drivers - for 11.04?22:07
Soothsayerthat's all the options I get @ ohsix22:08
Guest46633Is there some sort of firewall on by defualt in Ubuntu?  I could ssh in just fine when I set it up, now I've flown away and can't ssh in from anywhere else.  It's directly connected to a cable modem.22:08
ActionParsnip!firewall | Guest4663322:08
ubottuGuest46633: Ubuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo | GUI frontends such as Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist.22:08
LjLGuest46633: yeah these days there is u. "sudo ufw allow port 22" or something should free your ssh22:08
rgrwow. firestarter is MUCH better than those suggestions.22:08
ActionParsnipEdd: then boot with plymouth loading and press ESC and you will see the boot messages, what are the last few messages?22:09
ADSDSwhats the new ubuntu#22:09
LjLrgr: it's also deprecated22:09
arrrghhhfirestarter is deprecated?22:09
rgrWhen did that happen?22:09
arrrghhhbummer, i used to like that when i needed it.22:09
ActionParsniprgr: firestarter is just abother gui to iptables22:09
arrrghhhActionParsnip, indeed like any of those22:09
rgrfirst I heard of I must say. Damn good UI.22:09
Rehan_anytime I fill out the information in the About Me section in ubuntu and hit close, it never saves anything. Why is that?22:09
rgrI know what it is.22:09
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, your on... I have a weird idea...22:09
ohsixrgr: you need to keep your opinions to yourself, this is a HELP CHANNEL22:09
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rgrBut deprecated? Why? Its just a easy way to set up iptables.22:10
JunK-Yhow can i disable visual effect under 11.04? the tab visual effect isnt there anymore.22:10
EddActionParsnip me see wait22:10
LjLrgr, arrrghhh: heard them saying that in -ops. searching logs.22:10
ohsixrgr: ufw has simple allow/deny rules and hooks for more complicated rules that wont be clobbered by user changes22:10
andeeeukhas switch application in 11.04 been removed? really weird alt-tab does not work :s#22:10
rgrI never heard of a GUI tool that good being deprecated. I'll take a peek as I always recommend it : nice logging too.22:10
ohsixrgr: you could argue that average people shouldn't be setting up more than allow/deny rules anyways; and neither should software packages22:10
LjLrgr: ah well it's been at version 1.0.3 for forever, apparently22:11
EddActionParsnip: mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth22:11
ohsixrgr: "that good" is your opinion, it is not notable here22:11
CaleJunK-Y: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects?  I'm on 10.10, but I don't think the place has changed.22:11
ohsixebiester: let me think a bit, and i didn't say anything22:11
Guest46633ljl: but i could connect via ssh locally.. does the default fw care about source IP?22:11
snake_sera serina22:11
Elad123Hi all, I just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 (using unity), I'm using 2 monitor, the problem is that the notify-osd is on the secondary monitor (nvidia video card), someone can help me please?22:11
rgrbut nothing has destaically changed in iptables.22:11
rgrheh. good typo..22:11
LjLGuest46633: i think it does22:11
ebiesterohsix: no worries. Thanks. :)22:11
guntbert!backtrack | godMitax22:11
ubottugodMitax: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition22:11
ActionParsnipEdd: anything above that?22:11
rgrGuest46633: yes22:11
silvraxas soon as a tooltip is displayes, my mouse cursos dissapers, is that normal?22:12
Guest46633ljl: wow i hope you're wrong.. i set up a system 1500 miles from home and i'm half way accross the country now.22:12
Calesilvrax: no22:12
ohsixGuest46633: default fw has no policy22:12
LjLrgr: well, the community docs only really say "Note: Although Firstarter is fully functional, active development ended in 2005 with version 1.0.3. For an overview of alternative applications, see Firewall.", so perhaps deprecated is a strong word22:12
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, I have an idea...22:12
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: sup?22:12
Guest46633ohsix: so its all open by default?22:12
rgrGuest46633: did you also install banip or something?22:12
JunK-Ycale: yes it changed.22:12
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, could my mic be blacklisted? and... not loaded?22:12
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ohsixGuest46633: unless it's different in -server, that's all i know22:12
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: not sure man, i'm rubbish with sound issues22:13
silvraxCale: tnx.. any clue why it may happen?22:13
ybit_hey guys, i've got a problm with ubuntu not being able to process all my keystrokes, anyone know of a similar bu?22:13
kwriteDoes anyone know why B43 is not showing up in Additional Drivers? I can only see STA.22:13
JunK-Ytheres just Theme,Background and Font22:13
ybit_bug*22:13
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, I tried a wired mic and it didn't work...22:13
jamie4Any way to have the [FILE] [EDIT] etc menus to always show on the bar in Unity?22:13
rgrfirestarter has frozen. Its not deprecated from what I can see.22:13
Calesilvrax: No idea really... are you using compiz? It has lots of crazy options and that... might be one of them. I don't really know.22:13
ohsixkwrite: b43 is the included driver, STA is the vendor one, did jockey used to offer the b43 driver? it only ever needed the firmware, which you can get by installing b43-fwcutter and running the included script22:13
ybit_it just happened randomly22:13
Rehan_does anyone else have this problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/75245222:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 752452 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) ""About me" in Control Center doesn't store your information (always opens empty)" [Undecided,Confirmed]22:14
ohsixrgr: that's great, ubuntu uses ufw; thanks22:14
EddActionParsnip fsk succeeding nothing more22:14
silvraxCale: no compiz...22:14
Witchsong_I have installed ubuntuone-indicator, but the indicator doesn't show up at the bar.22:14
kwriteoshix: What script?22:14
ohsixActionParsnip: how come you never chime in to undo the mess done to peoples computers by the nvidia drivers like ebiester ?22:14
Witchsong_Anyone know if this is just a bug or if I might have done it wrong somehow?22:14
notlisteningohsiz, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/77444422:14
ubottuUbuntu bug 774444 in compiz (Ubuntu) "Compiz Negative Plugin fails on rendering new windows" [Undecided,New]22:14
kwriteoshix: Jockey offered the driver in 10.10 and I got it up and running then22:14
rcconfwhat is the device for DVD drive'22:14
Chrom_hi22:14
rcconf?22:14
Calesilvrax: Apparently there's something called "unclutter" which does that22:14
Calesilvrax: might want to check if it's installed22:15
kermitrgr: i did not install anything really, its just for my grandma22:15
ohsixkwrite: i don't have it installed here, but dpkg -L b43-fwcutter will list the files after it's installed, the script is the one ending in .sh22:15
ubuntuI need help loading the file manager as root22:15
Elad1234Hi all, I just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 (using unity), I'm using 2 monitor, the problem is that the notify-osd is on the secondary monitor (nvidia video card), someone can help me please?22:15
adzyhello22:15
rcconf?/dev/cdrom22:15
ohsixnotlistening: thanks22:15
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Chrom_is anyone using gnome-classic in 11.04? there's a very annoying bug that doesn't let you trash items using the trash applet. Can someone confirm this?22:15
adzy<adzy> hello all22:15
twiggydangerWhy does gksu nautilis not do anything?22:15
LjLohsix: now i think that was gratuitous. i haven't seen ActionParsnip talking to you in a while. at this point i'm sick and tired of seeing you three bickering. a mute is going to come next, so all three of you, really, please behave and have a little tolerance for each other22:16
silvraxCale: yeah, thats what google told me too, but its not installed22:16
Calesilvrax: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unclutter22:16
Ultimate_Chaoshello22:16
Calehmm22:16
notlisteningohsix, do you ever use the enhanced zoom feature?22:16
Ultimate_Chaoshello?22:16
Ultimate_Chaosi need help22:16
Whinisdid anyone else get a bumbed grub on upgrade?22:16
kwriteoshix I see some files and directories but theres no scripts22:16
Ultimate_Chaosi need help22:16
MrMist1ohsix: Hmm... Can't get sdd into sleep mode, but the two other drives works perfectly. Is it because I don't mount it somehow? I don't need to have it mounted..22:16
Ultimate_Chaosi need help22:16
Elad1234Hi all, I just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 (using unity), I'm using 2 monitor, the problem is that the notify-osd is on the secondary monitor (nvidia video card), someone can help me please?22:16
ActionParsnipohsix: must've missed the question, watching some youtube fun and games now so popping in and out22:16
Ultimate_Chaosi need help22:17
Elad1234Ultimate_Chaos, ?22:17
Whinisultimate_chaos we see you22:17
silvraxCale: i think unclutter hides the cursor after some timeout, mine only goes away when i tooltip is displayed...22:17
ActionParsnip!ask | Ultimate_Chaos22:17
ubottuUltimate_Chaos: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:17
christhecoolboyActionParsnip, do you know anyone who might be able to help me more?!22:17
LjLUltimate_Chaos: please don't spam. you've already done something like that the last time you joined. say things ONCE.22:17
ActionParsnipchristhecoolboy: guys in here may22:17
LjLUltimate_Chaos: you're currently muted, i'll unmute you when you acknowledge this.22:17
ohsixnotlistening: i did yea, but i haven't been able to use it satisfactorily with compiz .9, very very very awful slow22:17
merlin2049erhey, just upgraded to narty22:17
rcconf how do I create a virtual drive in UBuntu?22:17
rgrElad1234: there are logged bugs with notify-osd on dual screen. not least it being invisible.22:17
Ellipsis753is there a guide to removing the new bar on the left hand size and making ubuntu 11.04 not look like 11.04 somewhere? I've tried to grow to like it but I just can't use it, the lack of an open windows list is a real blow.22:17
merlin2049eris there a driver for nvidia22:17
sdegutiswhy is he muted?22:18
sdegutisno comprendo22:18
LjLsdegutis: because he asked for helps like 5 times in a row22:18
twiggydangerWhy does gksu nautilis not do anything?22:18
WhinisEllipsis753 at login select ubuntu classic at bottom22:18
ohsixLjL: i just figured after being so hawkins over xorg.conf he'd be really on top of things, but i guess that's just me22:18
sdegutisoh ok22:18
sdegutiscomprendo.22:18
adzyhow do i make someones name red when i reply to them?22:18
LjLadzy: just include their nickname22:18
LjL!tab > adzy    (adzy, see the private message from ubottu)22:18
kwriteoshix: I remember something saying cant find firmware ucode 15 or something to that effect. I read that that meant the driver's installed but not the firmware. b43-fwcutter -l22:18
kwriteoshix says: b43wl_apsta.o478.104FW1522:18
notlisteningohsix, well unity doesn't play nicely with it now :(, can't access the menu when zooming22:18
adzy!tab22:18
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:18
Soothsayerohsix, ok now it all of a sudden starts appearing in the unity taskbar22:18
ohsixMrMist1: you shouldn't need it mounted,  but your firmware might ignore what you tell it, or it might be entangled with the other power/noise settings like i said earlier22:18
Ultimate_Chaossry bout earlier22:18
ActionParsnipadzy: if you type their nick at the start of aline it will highlight for them22:19
ohsixnotlistening: ah i didn't try it with unity22:19
rgrdepends on which irc client you use22:19
adzyLjL, Just lik this?22:19
Ultimate_Chaosit decided to run my mass hug script without permission22:19
LjLadzy: yep22:19
Elad1234rgr, the problem occur only when I'm using unity (in the gnome-classic mode = gnome-panel it works fine)22:19
Ellipsis753Whinis, ahh, thank god. Am I alone in not liking all of the new changes?22:19
adzyLjL: thanks ;)22:19
Ultimate_Chaoswell22:19
ohsixkwrite: the firmware name might have changed, but on my netbook where it was required i don't recall ever having to rename it, dunno what to say22:19
Ultimate_Chaosmy sidebar wont work and i dont know how to start it22:20
twiggydangerCan someone please help me: Why does gksu nautilis not do anything?22:20
ohsixkwrite: i could just be misremembering and i've been using the STA driver all along though ;]22:20
WhinisEllipsis753 I don't mind it however after messing with settings for a few hours its not that bad22:20
notlisteningohsix, I would like to adopt unity but it is giving more heaches that its worth with the features of compiz i use regularly22:20
ohsixtwiggydanger: natilus22:20
sdegutishello22:20
sdegutis<322:20
eamonadzy: you only need to type "LJ" then tab and the the program will complete the name for you. If many names start the same press tab many times22:20
rgrbecuase there is not such command as nautilis22:20
ohsixtwiggydanger: you don't want to run it as root though ...22:20
sourcemakercan I re-crypt an existing encrypted file system (LUKS) with an other encryption method?22:20
kwriteoshix: Np thanks for your help :)22:20
Ellipsis753Whinis, ahh, what did you change/get rid of?22:20
twiggydangerohsix: oh ok thanks22:20
adzyeamon, thanks for that ;)22:20
kad_what is Ubuntu Unity?22:20
bobbycvihello22:20
merlin2049ernvidia driver for 11.04?22:20
ohsixrgr: address the person you're talking to please, there's a lot of people talking22:20
Ultimate_Chaosplz wait22:21
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Ultimate_Chaosmy system22:21
eamonkad_: If the GUI tthat the new version of ubuntu uses22:21
alienkid10how can I get gnome-shell to be default shell in 11.04?22:21
bobbycvifrom where i can find original sources.list for 11.0422:21
bobbycvi?22:21
Ultimate_Chaosubuntu 11.04 beta 122:21
Ultimate_Chaosi know it has been released22:21
Sledgesudo apt-get install gnome222:21
ActionParsnipmerlin2049er: which nvidia chip?22:21
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merlin2049er47022:21
kad_eamon,  ah Ubuntu 11.0.4 is the new Design called: ubuntu Unity?22:21
Ultimate_Chaosshould i upgrade?22:21
ActionParsnipUltimate_Chaos: you have typed a lot and so far told us nothing22:21
merlin2049ergtx47022:21
adzyif i want to fresh install new ubuntu over 10.04, when i format the partition will it remove grub too?22:21
bennipropperhi22:21
ActionParsnipUltimate_Chaos: its released so is officially released so is 'stable'22:22
Jordan_U!gnome3 | alienkid1022:22
ubottualienkid10: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.22:22
christhecoolboyOk... The Problem I have is that my mic is not listed after the 11.04 upgrade, it now has "Internal Audio Analogue Stereo" Instead... I have a MSI AE2020, The Sound card is a Nvidia MCP79 and the computer requires Snd-hda-intel to have Auto to have sound, loads more were tested in 10.10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/ should give you more Information that can help fix it, the Mic is built in to the computer, P22:22
christhecoolboylease can someone help as I need my mic often for podcasting, Thanks for any help I do get...22:22
eamonkad_: Yes, it's the biggest new feature22:22
Ultimate_ChaosTHE SIDEBAR  for application navigation does not start22:22
ActionParsnipmerlin2049er: sudo apt-get Install nvidia-current22:22
sakurambooive installed a few games, but they do not show up in the games menu in unity, is there a way to manually add them?22:22
kad_eamon, amazing =)22:22
bennipropperdoes anyone know how to make my steelseries headset work on ubuntu 11.04???22:22
eamonmerlin2049er: The newest nvidia blob would be what you want22:22
Ultimate_ChaosI look for it and i cant find out how to start it22:22
ActionParsnipUltimate_Chaos: if you don't have 3D accelleration and compiz running it will not start22:22
kwriteoshix: Found out STA is doing what I want it to do now. Idk why it does now and didn't in 10.10/ :)22:22
Ultimate_Chaosohhhhhh22:22
Ultimate_Chaos3d acceleration22:22
twiggydangerohsix: I do want to run nautilis as root and "gksu natilus" does the same thing as "gksu nautilis": NOTHING22:22
Ultimate_Chaosi disabled that22:23
whinisEllipsis753 mostly I just fixed some of the issues with compiz like reenabling cube and my other plugins, got alot of programs working again that broke, and changed some basic settings22:23
merlin2049erk22:23
merlin2049erdoes it work well22:23
adzyif i want to fresh install new ubuntu over 10.04, when i format the partition will it remove grub too???22:23
ActionParsnipUltimate_Chaos: unity needs it22:23
hobbelMajor problem here, I have files disappearing on a fresh install of 11.04. Space remains filled though. No clue on the problem22:23
alienkid10Jordan_U: so should switch to something else then?22:23
ohsixkwrite: ;] i use STA because my card eventually starts acting like the chip is overheating with the open driver, drops connection and stuff22:23
JWayusing intel gma 3100 and ubuntu 11.04 how come xcompmgr -c will not give me shadows on windows?22:23
RAMPKORVbah, I hate when Unity's window buttons disappear so you can't move or close your program22:23
starredsteriaIs there any reason as to why ubuntu won't start after installing nvidia drivers?22:23
whinisEllipsis753 fixing the nvidia but helped too22:23
kad_eamon, but the Flash player for 64-bit still contains some problem? because sometimes firefox freeze22:23
starredsteriaI have to do a fresh install... as ubuntu won't load anymore22:23
ohsixtwiggydanger: it's nautilus, but what i'm saying is you probably want to do what you're trying to do some other way, nautilus is a big thing to run as root and mistakes are easy22:23
Ultimate_Chaosis 2d video acceleration needed with ubuntu?22:24
Ellipsis753Whinis, ok thanks. I may do that or just end up going to classic. Nvidia was more or less the main reason I updated, 11.04 has a newer driver and doesn't make garbled graphics like the old.22:24
MrMist1ohsix: Hehe... by mounting the drive through fstab, it now goes into sleep mode. I'm not setting any APM parameter at all in any config. Thanks for all the help by the way22:24
notlisteningUnity good or bad, please give opnions..? ;)22:24
merlin2049er sudo apt-get Install nvidia-current doesn't work for me?22:24
Ultimate_Chaosunity is AWESOME!22:24
yfkhow can I re-enable control-alt-backspace on natty?22:24
ohsixMrMist1: hm interesting22:24
kwritenotlistening I tried Gnome3 and It was cool but not what I'd use everyday but I LOVE Unity :P22:24
twiggydangerohsix: I want to run it as root because I have a folder with a shitload of files that I need to change ownership of and i don't want to do it one by one22:24
eamonmerlin2049er: the nvidia blob is the official nvidia driver it comes from nvidia so it is the best22:24
whinisEllipsis753 ya, I don't use the nouveau driver as I use wine and game alot. Nouveau is bad for gaming where as the Nvidia driver is good for gaming22:24
merlin2049erhow do i install that22:24
Ultimate_Chaosalso it there a way to make it start faster?22:24
ohsixMrMist1: there were some changes about delayed settings applications with libata way back when, it probably doesn't even try and talk to the drive until it's in use for something22:25
Witchsong_notlistening, now that I have got used to Unity, I really wouldn't go back to Gnome. :)22:25
SoothsayerIn a dual monitor setup, could some recommend a way to have a launcher/dock in the second monitor?22:25
asdf_mscHas anyone here gotten WoW to work on 11.04?22:25
ActionParsnipyfk: its in the keyboard settings under the options button22:25
ChogyDanyfk: try alt-sysrq-k to kill the xserver22:25
Ultimate_Chaosi takes 2.782 minutes to start22:25
Ellipsis753Whinis, yeah, I had Nvidia before the update, I'll still have it now right?22:25
Dave888asdf_msc: Yap.22:25
tjiggi_fo!polls | notlistening22:25
ubottunotlistening: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.22:25
ActionParsnipasdf_msc: check the appdb, there is a guide there22:25
ohsixMrMist1: if you want your sleep settings to be applied be sure to run whatever you need to with hdparm to tell the drive to save the settings over resets; it still might not do it, but it's the best you can do given the circumstances22:25
yfkChogyDan, sysrq?22:25
Ultimate_Chaosoh nvm22:25
asdf_mscfor 11.04? where?22:25
ohsixtwiggydanger: you can use chown -R ...22:25
whinisEllipsis753 maybe, mine broke on update since it was a new kernel and I assume some of the settings changes. I had to uninstall my manual drivers and install nvidia-current22:25
eamonmerlin2049er: follow this guide to use the official nvidia driver https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia22:25
Ultimate_Chaosthat incrested ram and the 3d and 2d acceleration worked22:26
Ellipsis753whinis, cool thanks.22:26
Witchsong_Anyone here using the Ubuntu One Applet Indicator?22:26
notlisteningOh told off ;)22:26
Ultimate_Chaosty you all for now22:26
ActionParsnip!appdb | asdf_msc22:26
ubottuasdf_msc: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help22:26
FearXFactorXso whats the point of this22:26
yfkChogyDan, excellent, it worked22:26
whinisEllipsis753 if you have upgraded and didn't have to fix grub good to you though :) mine broke and required a live cd to fix22:26
ChogyDanyfk: :p22:26
ActionParsnipFearXFactorX: this channel is for ubuntu support only22:26
ohsixFearXFactorX: of what? do you have a question?22:26
eamon!details | FearXFactorX22:27
ubottuFearXFactorX: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."22:27
Ultimate_Chaosomg that worrrrrrrrked22:27
Ultimate_Chaosyay sidebar22:27
whinisHow many peoples Grub broke on update22:27
JunK-Yhow can i disable visual effect under 11.04? the tab visual effect isnt there anymore.22:27
Ultimate_Chaosya i know22:27
BlouBlouJunK-Y: metacity --replace22:27
ohsixwhinis: did yours break? it really isn't appropriate to take a poll here; mine didn't break though, fwiw22:27
twiggydangerohsix: so the -r will make it apply to everyting in the folder?22:27
manOwlso i think that the newest release of ubuntu.. combined with the hardware compatibility of linux, the repositories, and stuff... and this new UI22:28
rcconfJunK-Y: you mean right click desktop background and visual effects tab?22:28
Ultimate_Chaosokay another problem22:28
manOwlwindows 7 is an inferior OS22:28
ActionParsnipJunK-Y: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace22:28
LxndrI just upgraded to the newest version of Ubuntu (11.4?) on my laptop, which was previously running 10.10. Unfortunately, the automated upgrade (which is what I tried) seems to have left my laptop almost nonfunctional. It gives me a few errors before just dropping out - 'uvcvideo: failed to query (129) UVC probe control' is one of them. Can anyone help?22:28
asdf_mscActionPartnership, i looked there but didn't see anything on ubuntu 11.04 issues22:28
Ultimate_Chaoswith some massive tweaks22:28
manOwlthis is actually the first distribution that is legitimately easier to use than windows22:28
njbairsince my upgrade to Natty, `mplayer dvd://` doesn't work because there's no device at /dev/dvd. I can symlink /dev/sr0 to /dev/dvd, but how do I fix this permanently?22:28
ohsixtwiggydanger: -R, yea, and it will only change the owner, you need to do something else to change the permissions; so it won't clobber any that might have been set on purpose, just the owner22:28
notlisteningohsix, It was not so much a poll, as i was not counting22:28
Ultimate_Chaosi got portal 2 to to run in ubuntu22:28
Witchsong_JunK-Y: You need to install the Compiz Config, methinks.22:28
dupondjeWeird issue when I boot my system. It starts up, get the purple ubuntu screen .. and then nothing for like 1 minute, and then it boots & I get login screen ... :s any idea's ?22:28
ActionParsnipasdf_msc: the guide may still apply, also ask in #winehq22:28
manOwlUltimate_Chaos: does it render all the textures correctly?22:28
Ultimate_Chaosbut i need to know what servers it connects to22:28
Ultimate_Chaosyes22:29
twiggydangerohsix: so i just need to do chown  username /path/to/folder -r and that will set me to owner?22:29
zzecoolGuys im searching about how to disable the Title on the Global Menu  , what i mean is actually i want the global menu always visible instead of this Title-intelihide  joke           Anyone  ????22:29
hobbelWhat could make a file disappear from the file list yet remain on the harddisk?22:29
notlisteningwhat is the difference between unity 2D & 3D?22:29
manOwli had portal running, but it was not rendering all the textures22:29
JunK-Ywill try that22:29
manOwlbecause i had to run it in dx8 mode22:29
notlisteningis it all in the name ;) ?22:29
Dr_Willisnotlistening:  eyecandy and a few other looks.22:29
phibxrdupondje, sounds like the booting screen, plymouth i think, not displaying properly. got an nvidia-card?22:29
Ultimate_Chaosneed to mod the game files22:29
manOwlhobbel: the list of files is not bound to the file itself..22:29
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ActionParsniphobbel: add a period to the start of it's name22:29
Rehanto all the wise ubuntu experts, is there a way I can have my laptop load up in powersave mode every time I boot? Right now I have to manually select it using a gnome2 panel applet to throttle the cpu down.  Thank you very much.22:29
Dr_Willisnotlistening:  the keybindings will also be differnt so some of the things using compiz wont be there.22:29
manOwlhobbel: the filesystem stores the filenames, inodes, inumbers etc..22:29
ChogyDanLxndr: uvc sounds like just the webcam...22:29
manOwlhobbel: the file itself is a binary blob22:29
ohsixtwiggydanger: well there's a manual (man chown) and it's chown -R user(:group) /dirorfile, but yea, that's it22:30
notlisteningand can I get the apps as text not icons (better for my eye sighty) ?22:30
scoffinjrib: uninstalling indicator-appmenu seems to do what I want22:30
LxndrChogyDan: Whatever it is, it's quitting down to a CLI.22:30
hobbelActionParnip manOwl im missing a lot of files, no data on HD lost (since leftover space is the same). I suspect Deluge22:30
asdf_mscActionPartnership: i've tried everything in the guide, and have been asking in winehq but i'm not sure the problem is wine related22:30
Ultimate_Chaosif it doesn't connect to the server it crashes22:30
hobbelActionParnip manOwl how can I restore my files?22:30
manOwlhobbel: you're missing filenames?22:30
ActionParsniphobbel: use tab to complete nicks22:30
ChogyDanRehan: what is it now?22:30
manOwlpaths etc?22:30
Ultimate_Chaosand if i coop in it it lookkss 50x better22:30
jribscoffin: cool22:30
manOwlhobbel: first, are the files really important22:30
manOwlwhat are they22:30
scoffinthanks22:31
asdf_mscDave888, did WoW start right up after upgrade or did you change something?22:31
RehanChogyDan: On boot its always in OnDemand mode22:31
kermithttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW says its off by default, but it really seems like this system has a firewall.. i can IM via skype, but any new inbound connections are ignored, not even refused.  its not behind NAT.22:31
ChogyDanLxndr: it might be unrelated though.  Maybe check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, or dmesg22:31
dupondjephibxr: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4290]22:31
dupondjemmm :)22:31
Ultimate_ChaosBuilding File Database22:31
ohsixRehan: you know that ondemand overall saves battery by completing work quicker right, or do you want to do that for thermal reasons or something?22:31
hobbelmanOwl ActionParsnip have them on backup, fresh install of 11.04. but the files do not show up on the drive anymore.22:31
Rehanohsix: yeah exactly, thermal reasons22:31
Ultimate_ChaosError dpkg has closed unexpecta=ently22:31
rgrhmm, after a quick play I really wonder why gufw was developed as opposed to simply maintaining the much more intuitive firestarter. Oh well.22:31
LxndrChogyDan, Can you tell me how? It's just dumping into CLI, and it's been a long time since I've had to use the CLI directly. (I can't seem to start the GUI at all, and it won't even communicate with the network)22:31
ActionParsnip!fixapt | Ultimate_Chaos22:31
ubottuUltimate_Chaos: If an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »22:31
Ultimate_Chaoseveryt time i run it22:31
manOwlhobbel: recovering lost files on a drive is very time consuming, I assume you have a really, really good reason to want the files?22:31
ohsixRehan: hm you should probably troubleshoot those then, they can usually be fixed22:31
ohsixrgr: #ubuntu-offtopic22:32
manOwlalso stop using the drive now or you'll ruin your chances22:32
ohsixrgr: ufw is also a firewall, gufw is a gui for it, read about ufw if you want to know why22:32
Ultimate_Chaosbut it isnt22:32
Ultimate_Chaosi checked22:32
twiggydangerohsix: that worked! thanks a ton.22:32
Rehanohsix: its just my laptop is a beast and makes a ton of heat. know of a way to make it not start in ondemand?22:32
ChogyDanLxndr: nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log22:32
ohsixagh @ when they do that22:32
ChogyDanLxndr: dmesg22:32
hobbelmanOwl there is no space lost, its about 80GB thats just "gone". But i did not get +80gb in free space22:32
Andre_GondimHi, when I plug hdmi cable my all my screen stay so mess, how do I fix it22:32
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: I finally figured out a workaround. Since I'm running amd64, I just added the beta flash 64bit, which is a workaround for nspluginwrapper22:32
Ultimate_Chaosohnwhat is a good ubuntu irc chat program22:32
ohsixRehan: well that's not really the knob to adjust if heat is your problem, that's what i'm saying22:32
hobbelmanOwl so i guess files are still there, but in a weird "cant see" modus or something22:33
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: I always use the 64bit flash in my 64bit rigs, works much better imho22:33
rgrUltimate_Chaos: irssi, xchat, pigeon.22:33
Rehanohsix: what would you recommend?22:33
manOwlhobbel: you're not going to be able to recover 80gb of files that have lost filesystem entries.22:33
RehanChogyDan: any ideas?22:33
andyccUltimate_Chaos, I use xchat-gnome and it works pretty well.22:33
econdudeawesomeActionParsnip: I didn't even consider it as a solution until i thought about it for awhile :-)22:33
Ultimate_Chaosdoes xchat support mirc scripts?22:33
ChogyDanRehan: I know a way to do that, it's a little tricky.  edit /etc/init.d/ondemand so it sets it to what you want instead of ondemand22:33
manOwlhobbel: i don't know what the best software is for recovering a lost file, but it can be done with dd.22:33
hobbelmanOwl how can I Free my lost space then?22:33
rgrUltimate_Chaos: it has good docs.22:33
ActionParsnipecondudeawesome: I also use 64bit flash ;)22:33
hobbelmanOwl I have a backup so I dont care about the files22:33
ActionParsnipjava sorry22:33
manOwlhobbel: what do you mean, free your lost space?22:34
Ultimate_ChaosKK22:34
jaundiceafter upgrading to 11 (server) my vm will not boot kernel 2.6.38 just dumps me into initramfs prompt, will boot 2.6.35 however with seemingy identical params any ideas?22:34
SoothsayerAnyone installed DockBarX over Unity ?22:34
ohsixRehan: finding out why it's so hot, and stopping whatever you can that's making it hot; last time this came up someone had a problem device that was burning cpu, and he was able to just disable it22:34
manOwlhobbel: when the filesystem loses a file, that space is considered free!22:34
manOwlyou're constantly overwriting your old files as you use your computer22:34
LxndrChogyDan, I have that file opened. What should I be looking for?22:34
ActionParsnipSoothsayer: docky on one, unity on another22:34
murielgodoihi, where can i find ubuntu iso md5 hash? It isn't available at ubuntu download page.22:34
econdudeawesomeOne more question for the group. I'm restoring my gnome panel, but cannot remember what the area is called where open applications are listed in the panel...22:34
SoothsayerActionParsnip, exactly what I want.. works well for dual monitor ?22:34
Rehanohsix: oh its not ubuntu specific, its the laptop. Its an i7 with a poorly designed fan system22:34
ChogyDanLxndr: errors at the end  unfortunately, I don't really know22:34
ohsixRehan: i know it's not ubuntu specific when you asked it ;]22:34
BlouBlouanyone knows why I can't see logos in Unity? I mean images, I can click on them, but no images are showing22:35
hobbelmanOwl let me repeat, the filesystem doesnt find any free space! I cant find ~80GB worth of files in nautilus / amarok etc. on a 120GB disc! only 5GB free space atm22:35
Ultimate_ChaosSorry PolicyKit Authentication Agent closed unexpectently22:35
SecteurCleanhello there canal for french people ?22:35
LxndrChogyDan, It says 'Fatal server error'22:35
BlouBloulike if they were totally transparenrts, or invisibles22:35
Jordan_Uhobbel: The only way that I know of to completely unlink a file whithout freeing its space in the filesystem is for the file to still be open by some program. But I think it's unlikely that is happening for you.22:35
LxndrChogyDan, More specifically, it says "no screens found"22:35
kwriteI can't get my Dell 1397 wireless card to work with Wireshark. I can't find anything on the net about it. Anyone know if there is a way to get it to work?22:35
manOwlhobbel: either you are not looking hard enough for the file that is taking up your space, or you need to make a new filesystem.22:35
ohsixRehan: is it really poorly designed or are the thermal zones incorrect in the bios?22:35
ChogyDanecondudeawesome: window list22:35
ActionParsnipSoothsayer: no idea, I have 1 monitor for 6 systems22:35
christhecoolboyThe Problem I have is that my mic is not listed after the 11.04 upgrade, it now has "Internal Audio Analogue Stereo" Instead... I have a MSI AE2020, The Sound card is a Nvidia MCP79 and the computer requires Snd-hda-intel to have Auto to have sound, loads more were tested in 10.10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/ should give you more Information that can help fix it, the Mic is built in to the computer22:35
manOwlhobbel: try the tool baobab22:35
econdudeawesomeChogyDan: where there ya go--thanks!22:35
manOwlit finds the biggest files to delete22:35
asdf_mscif anyone has gotten WoW to work on 11.04, please let me know what you did22:35
ChogyDanLxndr: anything before that?22:35
hobbelmanOwl Jordan_U this filesystem is ~6 hours old. All lost / hidden files are Deluge "seeds". Already did a restart22:36
SoothsayerActionParsnip, so what did you mean by unity on one, dock on another? (two different installations??)22:36
LxndrChogyDan, "Failed to load module "nvidia" No drivers available.22:36
Ultimate_Chaosi entered the correct password22:36
Rehanohsix: its so poorly designed they forced a recall/BIOS update on the system that makes the stupid fans just stay almost at full all the time to cover their ass from lawsuits22:36
ohsixasdf_msc: you'd probably fare better asking in #winehq or checkign out the appdb, that's pretty much just a wine issue22:36
Ultimate_Chaosit unlocked then locked22:36
ChogyDanLxndr: that's the one!22:36
Ultimate_Chaosthen i entered it again and i got there error22:36
murielgodoiWhere can i find ubuntu iso md5 hash? It isn't available at ubuntu download page.22:36
manOwlhobbel: there are two possibilites. that you used a ton of space, or that the filesystem is corrupt and needs to be erased and reformatted.22:36
LxndrChogyDan, yay! what do I do?22:36
Rehanohsix: there's nothing in the bios except boot order. very basic bios22:36
ActionParsnipSoothsayer: laptop uses unity (single screen), Media Centre goes to tV (single screen), rest are headless servers22:36
manOwlhobbel: some runaway program probably created a big file on your computer.22:36
asdf_mscohsix: i've tried both and it seems to be an opengl issue rather than wine22:36
manOwlhobbel: sudo apt-get install baobab <--- run this, find the big file, delete it.22:37
ohsixRehan: the bios contains tables that tells linux about the fans and the zones they manage ,and all their trip points and stuff; it's more than just the settings22:37
manOwlif you can't, then you need to make a new filesystem.22:37
Ultimate_Chaosanyone know how to fix it?22:37
rgrargh, why do they insist on calling things like gufw and firestarter "firewalls" - they are not.22:37
ChogyDanLxndr: what does dkms status say?22:37
daifHi , I can't upgrade to 11.04 "Could not calculate the upgrade"22:37
ohsixasdf_msc: it'd still be wine; they're the ones fitting the square peg in the round hole :]22:37
stercorWhere would I go to post a question about firewalls and routers?22:37
Soothsayerwhy didn't Unity factor in dual monitors!22:37
ohsixrgr: #ubuntu-offtopic22:37
Rehanohsix: ah well i tried using sensors detect with lm-sensors and it only found a few22:37
Soothsayerthat's one thing that requires a lot of work and attention22:37
rgrstercor: here or #linux22:37
LxndrChogyDan, If I type 'dkms' it returns nothing.22:38
hobbelmanOwl, baobab still finds the files as space22:38
MK``adding >> in the terminal will append to a file right?22:38
ChogyDanLxndr: dkms status22:38
kfizzIs there any place other than "Startup Applications" where startup programs could be listed? I have a weather indicator applet installed and I don't want it starting up anymore but it's not listed in "Startup Applications."22:38
ActionParsnipstercor: or ##networking22:38
Ultimate_Chaoshello?22:38
rgrkfizz: yes22:38
manOwlhobbel: what do you mean it finds the files as space?22:38
LxndrChogyDan, There are four lines.22:38
rgrinit scripts22:38
ActionParsnipkfizz: you can add .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart22:38
ChogyDanLxndr: are they all marked installed?22:38
RehanChogyDan: thank you, I did sudo vim /etc/init.d/ondemand  -- if you had a few spare moments could you provide me with further instructions?22:38
manOwlhobbel: the numbers that df -h reports are definitely incorrect?22:38
ohsixrgr: those don't have anything to do with the session manager22:38
LxndrChogyDan, Yes, they are.22:38
abbronzatoHELP, i cannot use the latest 11.04: 'udevd-work[98]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci: v000010DEd00000398sv00001179sd0000FF31bc03sc00i00' unexpected exit with status 0x0009", i have verified the downloaded md5sum, reburned then verified, looks good but same error: HELP! thx22:38
kfizzrgr: I've grepped /etc/init.d for it, but I couldn't find it there either.22:38
ActionParsnipkfizz: you can add scripts and suck in KDE using the folder ~/.kde/Autorun22:39
manOwlhobbel: you can try fsck22:39
hobbelmanOwl, looks like my partition is smaller all of sudden... hmmz22:39
rgrthats be user local for sure22:39
ohsixkfizz: it wouldn't be there22:39
ActionParsnipabbronzato: did you test your RAM?22:39
manOwlPEBKAC22:39
Ultimate_Chaosokay how do i tell it that i want to upgrade the OPERATING SYSTEM22:39
bkerensan #ubuntu-us-or22:39
abbronzatohello, in true not, the system runs fine, but i can test it22:39
ActionParsnipUltimate_Chaos: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade22:39
kfizzActionParsnip, thanks; however, I'm using Gnome.22:39
ChogyDanLxndr: is your kernel listed?  prolly 2.6.38-822:39
ChogyDanRehan: sure22:40
CaleI can't seem to upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10 because of "broken or held packages". What should I do to get more information about what's going wrong?22:40
ActionParsnipkfizz: then ~/.config/autostart22:40
ohsixrgr: i wish you'd hold your tongue, you lead people off into the weeds & other people have to bring them back, you're deliberately creating work for other people with more interest in helping than yourself22:40
CaleI don't appear to have any held packages at the moment22:40
kfizzActionParsnip, Checking there now but not seeing anything :/22:40
JosesordoDamn Unity.. now my windows border dont show!.. help please!22:40
jbsoumhey can someone help me? i upgraded to 11.04 and somewhere in the process of disabling the unity desktop and enabling compiz, i lost all my window borders22:40
ownerhey can anyone help me. I have tried to get Blender 2.57b to work with openshot in Ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 and so far it won't work.22:40
FernandoBassoUbuntu x86 default (not alternate) is asking a login user and password to 'try it without install'. Any ideas?22:40
LxndrChogyDan, I see 2.6.38-8-generic as the top line. The other lines have other numbers.22:40
jbsoumlol josesordo me too22:40
ohsixCale: open synaptic and see waht it thinks are being held or pinned22:40
Ultimate_Chaosim running ubuntu11.0422:40
Ultimate_Chaosbeta 122:41
Ultimate_Chaoshow do i tell it to upgrade22:41
ownerI'm running 11.04 too22:41
Josesordojbsoum, yeah me too.. I remove all compiz stuff..and nothing yet..22:41
ActionParsnipkfizz: you can symlink (or copy or create) .desktop files in that folder and they will run on logon22:41
Jordan_U!final | Ultimate_Chaos22:41
ubottuUltimate_Chaos: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Natty and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 11.04 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console.22:41
ownerOpenShot video editor wants Blender 2.57b installed in order for it to do the CGI stuff.22:41
kfizzActionParsnip, thanks I'll check it out.22:41
ChogyDanLxndr: yeah, I dunno, you could at least remove the nvidia driver to get going again.  Not sure how to fix it22:41
ohsixkfizz: if you're trying to get your applets back with unity, you probably cant; it's not a real panel22:41
ownerI tried going into prefrences and telling OpenShot where the new blender executable was but it won't do it.22:41
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LxndrChogyDan, How should I remove the nvidia driver?22:42
Ultimate_Chaosty very much upgrading22:42
ownerI hate unity.22:42
jbsoumowner, me too22:42
hobbelmanOwl 64 / 70GB used in baobab, the folder with the "missing files" still reports the folder size it had before the files went missing. Folders themself still there, i just miss the files (mainly .mp3)22:42
ohsixowner: if you have a question, ask it, otherwise #ubuntu-offtopic22:42
arrrghhhowner, jbsoum so ditch it.  go back to the 'ubuntu classic' setting22:42
ChogyDanLxndr: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current22:42
Caleohsix: is there an easy way to get a list of the packages it thinks are pinned?22:42
ChogyDanRehan: look for the line like echo -n ondemand > $CPUFREQ22:42
kfizzohsix, I'm using Ubuntu classic, thanks for the tip tho.22:42
Caleohsix: I don't have any held packages at the moment22:42
jbsoumarrrghhh, i did, but now my window borders are gone and i dont know how to get them back o.O22:42
W4RH4WKhello, which command line irc client do you prefere irssi, weechat? i need some advice which one to try out22:43
ownerohsix I asked how to get OpenShot video editor to work with Blender 2.57b22:43
Caleand everything is upgraded to the latest version in 10.1022:43
Juesthi, what i have to put in /etc/lilo.conf?22:43
LxndrChogyDan, Done. Should I try restarting now?22:43
ohsixCale: not that i know of, i don't use synaptic much; probably why i've never had a problem :O22:43
arrrghhhjbsoum, reboot?  i didn't have that issue...22:43
RehanChogyDan: found it22:43
jbsoumi rebotted and the problem still persists22:43
ChogyDanLxndr: you can check with dkms status again, but yeah22:43
Witchsong_Anyone got the issue with XChat that it doesn't minimize the application to the panel when you choose "Minimize to tray"?22:43
Stereocaulon_Is there a way to get rid of the envelope icon/button in the top-right of the screen, without disabling my network manager view and keyboard chooser?22:43
Juestand i can't reboot22:43
ownerohsix even if you go into prefrences and point it at the executable for Blender 2.57b it won't work.22:43
Jordan_UJuest: Ubuntu doesn't use lilo, it uses GRUB2.22:43
arrrghhhjbsoum, gotta be your theme or smth related to it.22:43
Juestlol?22:43
Caleohsix: I normally just use apt-get22:43
notlisteningthis is a nasty ones :D https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/77446322:43
ubottuUbuntu bug 774463 in evolution (Ubuntu) "Evolution Crashes when scrolling through messges with pageup / pagedown" [Undecided,New]22:43
ohsixowner: dunno what to say22:43
Juestlilo's avaible22:43
krocksstuck in initramfs22:43
jbsoumarrrghhh, ill try changing themes, brb22:44
arrrghhhJuest, it's avail, but not used by default.22:44
Juestis because is debian based22:44
ohsixStereocaulon_: that's the presence menu, i dunno that you can22:44
krocksmy drive was not unmounted properly22:44
ownerNo one knows what to say. Here is what I need to know ohsix. I need to know where to stick the files in the package for Blender 2.57b so that they will replace the outdated version.22:44
Juestoh?22:44
Jordan_UJuest: Yes, but it's not used by default and I can't see why you would want to use it.22:44
LxndrChogyDan, It was gone from dkms, now it's rebooting. Wish me luck.22:44
Juestlol, because is more easier than grub22:44
ChogyDanRehan: I changed ondemand to conservative.  maybe you can just put in powersave?22:44
hihihi100what happened to the bottom bar of firefox? its gone since the upgrade22:44
arrrghhhJuest, is it?  :P22:44
krockswhat should i do tu repair  ubuntu?22:44
ownerYa unity is like using an iphone or droid.22:44
Juestand where i can edit grub static files?22:44
Jordan_UJuest: Then you should be able to figure out what to put in /etc/lilo.conf on your own :)22:45
Juestbrb22:45
ohsixjbsoum: you need to turn on the decorator plugin in compiz, did you actually uninstall all the packages with *unity* in the name or just use the other session?22:45
RehanChogyDan: ok, whats the difference between powersave and conservative?22:45
ActionParsnipJuest: if you find it easier, use it :)22:45
Juestok, i need to know, also i don't remember22:45
rgrJuest: using lilo is pretty stupid.22:45
Witchsong_hihihi100, what kind of bottom bar?22:45
Juestthat's why i came22:45
rgrunless you have a very godo reason22:45
ohsixrgr: keep your opinions to yourself22:45
jbsoumohsix, i just used the other session, i didnt uninstall it22:45
Josesordogrr.. Damn unity.. they want us to use only their theme.. lol22:45
Stereocaulon_ohsix, thanks for the notice, I am getting sick of icon rows being merged into one big happy indicator monster. No critique to you, but to the the Ubuntu design team...22:45
ChogyDanRehan: well, you just want powersave, I think it will work, just change ondemand to powersave22:46
Juestand i used lilo before but still frogeting how's the conf22:46
RehanChogyDan: ok22:46
machourhi, anyone with a nice icon theme featuring different icons for the different mimetypes ?22:46
ohsixjbsoum: ok weird, the window decorator shouldn't have been messed with then; but you just need to turn it back on22:46
dupondjelilo = prehistoric ...22:46
JuestBRB22:46
arrrghhh!grub | Juest either use these links or figure out LILO on your own...22:46
ubottuJuest either use these links or figure out LILO on your own...: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)22:46
hihihi100witchsong, the bar where I had icons to access my add-ons, like perakun, adblockplus, noscript, foxyproxy...22:46
Jordan_UJuest: Settings for grub2 go in /etc/default/grub (if you decide to use update-grub to keep your grub.cfg updated automatically).22:46
hihihi100witchsong, torbutton22:46
ohsixStereocaulon_: well it's been available for review for a long time, most people only care after release though22:46
jbsoumohsix, how do i do that?22:46
hobbelmanOwl ActionParsnip  copying files from backup disc to disc -> "do you want to overwrite file" <-- so files are def. still there!22:46
* dupondje hates kernel bugs :(22:46
hihihi100what happened to the status bar?22:47
ohsixjbsoum: open ccsm from compizconfig-settings-manager and tick on the decorator plugin22:47
abbronzatoActionParsnip.. really bat the ram test appears but does not starts (if executed from the ubuntu media!!!!!)22:47
ActionParsniphobbel: hmmm, do you see them in terminal?22:47
Ultimate_Chaosomg my internet!22:47
Juestyeah how do i manually edit the entries like with the in line temporal editing?22:47
Stereocaulon_ohsix, I have already protested during the 10.04 => 10.10 upgrade cycle. It was silently ignored...22:47
ohsixActionParsnip: he probably doesn't have +x permission for the directory22:47
Ultimate_Chaosi want my internet to be good!22:47
JuestBRB!!!22:47
dupondjehihihi100: you can enable it :) its the 'addon bar' :)22:47
hobbelActionParsnip ls returnt nothing22:47
notlisteningohsix, if you get a chance to look at the evolution bug i would appreciate it22:47
ohsixActionParsnip: that lets you list files in a directory :]22:47
ActionParsnipabbronzato: could be a thing, if you hold shift at boot you can run memtest from the install drive22:47
ownerI'm copying all the files into /usr/bin maybe that will work.22:47
Witchsong_hihihi100, that bar is still there, I got the Stylish icon on it.22:47
eamon_how safe is an encrypted home partition?22:47
Ultimate_Chaosyes22:48
arrrghhh!ot | Ultimate_Chaos22:48
ubottuUltimate_Chaos: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!22:48
ActionParsnipohsix: I don't follow?22:48
hobbelActionParsnip sudo ls doesnt return anything either22:48
KitBSo I'm trying to install Natty on a HP Touchsmart tm2 from a usb disk, however it hangs on the ... is it Plymouth? Either way, boot splash. Just stops there.22:48
rgrdepends on wha encryption you use obviously and from what.22:48
abbronzatoActionParsnip, thx the memory test appears, but simply does not starts!22:48
ActionParsniphobbel: you don't need sudo22:48
eamon_the regular installer22:48
ownerWHA HA HA HA HA I FIXED IT!22:48
ActionParsniphobbel: try:  ls -a22:48
ownerAnd no one else has22:48
owner:D22:48
FloodBot2owner: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:48
hobbelActionParsnip to rule out permission errors22:48
ActionParsnipabbronzato: that's not good dude22:48
ohsixStereocaulon_: well protest ... i don't think that's really effective, people inflate themselves into "tons of people" who happen to agree with them, even if you don't people don't take it with much weight; only thing you can really do is not care or get involved in the decisions made in the next version22:48
jbsoumahhh good call thanks ohsix22:48
ownerHello FloodBot222:48
ActionParsniphobbel: anything with: ls -a22:48
dupondjeKitB: and what if you wait a minute? Seems like i have same issue here :(22:48
hobbelActionParsnip it reports two "files", one names "." and one ".."22:48
eamon_ ecryptfs the default one that is used in the ubuntu installer22:49
abbronzatoActionParsnip, i'm running another (fe....) from months without probs on this pc22:49
ActionParsniphobbel: and if you run:  pwd   is it the location where the files should be22:49
KitBdupondje: I've been waiting a few minutes now22:49
ohsixActionParsnip: you can't list files in a directory without +x for your user, but you can create files there, and everything else; it's a tip for you since you're helping the guy22:49
ohsixownwhat was it?22:49
ActionParsnipohsix: hmm, i thought you'd only need read access to read the folder listing, interesting22:49
DiNozzoHey, anyone here good at getting soundcards to work?22:50
ohsixrgr: people can't usually infer who you're talking to unless you address them, channel often moves past what you're replying to pretty fast too22:50
JosesordoI want my windows borders back!..please help!22:50
hobbelActionParsnip I found a way to get the files back... copy them from the external HD (backup) but hit "no" on overwite makes them appear again22:50
ohsixActionParsnip: i could be mistaken, that's my understanding btu i haven't checked22:50
ActionParsniphobbel: weird22:50
Stereocaulon_ohsix I have been involved, I am not inflating inflating myself, yet I still find it a rather irritating way to handle these things. Toolbars of any kind should be customizable. Period.22:50
eamon_rgr: ecryptfs22:50
hobbelActionParsnip extremely weird22:50
ActionParsnipohsix: linux is a strange creature :)22:50
kjxl9can someone help me go through this tutorial: http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html22:51
KitBCapslock has no effect, alt+prtscr+S, U, B also has no effect22:51
ohsixStereocaulon_: agreed, which is why i'm not using anything that doesn't have gnome-panel in it22:51
ohsixActionParsnip: well, shrug; yea i guess, but it's grandfathered from classic unix permissions22:51
KitBdupondje: Are you getting the black screen problem as well?22:51
ohsixActionParsnip: there are other bits with special meanings on directories, x just happens to overlap directly with one that can be set on a file too22:51
ActionParsnipohsix: true, so much easier than windows ones with inheritance of permissions mixing stuff up22:51
ohsixActionParsnip: i think it's cute you can have a directory you otherwise have full permission to aside from listing its contents; makes lots of things easy22:52
dupondjeKitB: have a black screen for like a minute @ boottime, and then it boots .. weird shit22:52
bazhangdupondje, no cursing please22:52
ActionParsnipohsix: amen :)22:52
KitBdupondje: That is a little odd.22:52
KitBdupondje: Is this booting from a liv usb or after install?22:53
eamon_sorry to ask this again but does anyone know how secure ecryptfs is?22:53
KitBs/liv/live/22:53
ohsixActionParsnip: you can still directly modify files you know the name of, or execute them or whatever22:53
Stereocaulon_ohsix, well, it is a rather minor issue after all...Thanks for letting me blow off some steam.22:53
ActionParsnipohsix: I guess that has advantages22:53
ohsixeamon_: theres nobody that can quantify how secure it is, that's a decision someone makes knowing full well what it does, and deciding for themselves how secure they need it22:53
dupondjeKitB: after upgrade (coming from 10.04)22:54
kjxl9im confused:"Type the following command to switch to the download directory: cd /home/user/downloads Replace "user" with your user name." i typed this in terminal and it said the dorectory doesn't exist22:54
ohsixeamon_: and while encryption may be mathematically resplendent, when people are involved they compromise it greatly; so you can't evaluate eitehr one in isolation22:54
KitBdupondje: I'm not getting the black screen on normal boot22:54
KitB(I also ran an upgrade, from 10.10)22:54
ohsixStereocaulon_: np, everyone has lots to go around :]22:54
eamon_ohsix: ok thanks i was just wondering because since it only encrpyts your home directory i was worried that there maybe sensitive data stored in other parts of the partition is this true?22:54
dupondjeDid have a kernel softlock also :(22:55
ohsixeamon_: if you really want some data you have to be secure you should segregate it and store it securely, that need not even include encryption, but often does; if you just go and encrypt everything the information you want to protect becomes as important as everything else, or the whole volume becomes very hard to secure22:55
[segfault]Hi folks.  I tried asking this yesterday, but lost my connection.  Does anyone know how to get Emerald themes running under Natty?  Whenever I do 'emerald --replace' it segfaults on me.22:56
arrrghhh[segfault], Emerald, isn't that ancient?22:56
christhecoolboyThe Problem I have is that my mic is not listed after the 11.04 upgrade, it now has "Internal Audio Analogue Stereo" Instead... I have a MSI AE2020, The Sound card is a Nvidia MCP79 and the computer requires Snd-hda-intel to have Auto to have sound, loads more were tested in 10.10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/ should give you more Information that can help fix it, the Mic is built in to the computer22:56
eamon_ohsix: are all privite files stored in the home directory such as logs?22:56
arrrghhh!emerald22:56
ubottuemerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.22:56
arrrghhh[segfault], ^^22:57
MrMist1ohsix: I'm using hdparam.conf just like before. No changes except the brace22:57
MrMist1ohsix: Gotta go... thanks for all the help though :)22:57
[segfault]arrrghhh: well, I guess so, but the themes are so much better than what I have seen in compiz.  I never realized it was that old.  Are there similar quality themes for compiz/unity then?  All the ones I have seen when I click 'get themes' are *very* basic, no glass transparencies, etc.22:57
arrrghhh[segfault], i don't really mess much with the themes to be honest, sorry.22:58
cachedWho's the brain box who decided I don't want a task bar any more?22:59
cachedAnd how do I get it back?22:59
kjxl9hey can i get some help with something?22:59
[segfault]arrrghhh: I guess I should hunt for alternative themes then.  Am I right in assuming that I can use compiz themes under Unity, then?22:59
DiNozzoOkay I would really appreciate help!22:59
Stereocaulon_cached, just switch back to classic mode, just as I dd after seeing Unity for about 1 minute22:59
arrrghhh[segfault], i'd assume so...22:59
DiNozzoJust installed 11.04 on my media server22:59
MrMist1kjxl9: Specify what you need help with..22:59
MK``adding >> in the terminal will append to a file right? while > makes a new file?22:59
cachedStereocaulon_: How do I do that?22:59
DiNozzoand the internal sound card wont output any sound22:59
cachedMK``: Yes23:00
DiNozzoBut if I check the sound panel it says "Internal Sound Card"23:00
MK``thanks cached23:00
kjxl9i type in "cd /Home/adam/downloads" and it sais the directory doesn't exist23:00
manOwlWhere did the desktop effects preferences go in 11.04!?23:00
[segfault]arrrghhh: ok, I will see what else I may have missed.  The thin borders on most of these default themes are really hard to grab for resizing, etc.  Thanks for the help! :)23:00
Stereocaulon_cached, log off, insert your User name and Password and select the type of session on the bottom23:00
trailoryoanyone know about any good photo edit app?23:00
guntbertkjxl9: its /home/...  not /Home/...23:01
Moahello guys ! Since I installed Naty, the Display on my monitor is ok but on my TV it is "greenish". The same hardware was perfect under maverick. Any idea ?23:01
arrrghhh[segfault], i know they drive me batty when i try to resize anything.  i just wish the zone for resizing was larger...23:01
kjxl9i didn't work either way23:01
ohsixeamon_: ehh well theres lots of files with information people can use; that's why its important to choose what information you want to protect23:01
LxndrI upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on my laptop. However, now whenever I start the laptop, it gives me a startup screen that says "ubuntu studio Linux for creative humans" and does not move past that point. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?23:01
manOwltrailoryo: the gimp23:01
trailoryothanks man0wl23:02
[segfault]arrrghhh: yes, and the new scroll box that appears when you get the mouse in *just* the right spot is annoying me also.  Thicker borders would help me there, but there is not enough configurability in the default theme engine.23:02
MrMist1kjxl9: use tab extensions... like "cd /home/a<tab>/Dow<tab>"23:02
ohsixeamon: even stuff in /var/log can contain identifying information as to usage patterns, when you turned your laptop on or off, what wifi you were connected to; that might not seem like anything at all but it does give away quite a bit23:02
cachedStereocaulon_: Fixed. Thanks!23:02
guntbertkjxl9: yes, and it is .../Downloads .... case matters!23:02
MrMist1kjxl9: If <tab> doesn't give you anything, try "<tab><tab>" to list possible selections..23:02
Stereocaulon_cached, welcome back in Gnome2 :-)23:02
cachedWhoever decided that this interface is better needs to read up on "usability"23:02
kjxl9ok ill try23:02
tarnschafhi, does anyone know a possibility to run 3 monitors with 2 graphics cards?23:02
ohsixeamon: best advice i can give is decide what information really matters, and keep it separate and secure, you can get mozilla/ff to use pcks11 and stuff as well23:03
ohsixcached: what if they did and they came to a different conclusion than you did? there's a funny thing about human behaviour ...23:03
Stereocaulon_cached, I agree wholly on that23:03
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SenixHow do i install *.run files?23:03
kjxl9ok i got it23:03
ohsixSenix: wherever you got the software should have instructions on how to install it; what software is it?23:03
tensorpuddingSenix: if you double-click it, it should run23:04
manOwlman why isn't it easy to add a launcher to the unity panel?23:04
manOwli just want to put a terminal on there23:04
tensorpuddingmanOwl: it's not hard23:04
ohsixmanOwl: don't you just drag it after you searched for it?23:04
manOwlthat's what I tried23:04
manOwlmaybe I dragged it wrong23:04
Senixohsix: its a game called "aquaria' that i bought from humble bundle23:04
ohsixor click on it or something, after it's launched23:04
tensorpuddingmanOwl: search for it, then drag it onto the launcher23:04
ohsixSenix: ah23:04
tensorpuddingyou can drag .desktop files too i think23:04
manOwlThis panel is not ready for primetime23:05
Juestok, where's the real grub config file????23:05
manOwlI am disappoint.23:05
manOwltensorpudding: duh23:05
Senixi will take tensorpudding's advice and see if double-clicking will install. but ohsix how do i install it from terminal?23:05
Juestand how do i restore gnome-session, it's broken23:05
manOwltensorpudding: two problems here23:05
ohsixSenix: well run it as instructed, but you could use checkinstall as well to track installed files and uninstall it later if you wish23:05
ohsixSenix: probably just sh file.run23:05
manOwltensorpudding: dragging it to the bottom does not work, it seems intuitive to drag into empty space. for it to work you must drag it to the top23:05
SolnseSince I upgraded to 11, ubuntu won't load... it gets stuck on checking battery state... is this something I can fix?23:05
bazhang!grub2 | Juest have a read23:05
ubottuJuest have a read: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)23:05
manOwlsecond problem23:05
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manOwlI just added the launcher to my panel23:06
Juesti can only run commands that i have troubles with shortcuts on applications listing23:06
ohsixmanOwl: you should have spoke up during prereleases D: it's not like it just came into existence when natty was released23:06
manOwland it instead inserted a blank space the size of the launcher23:06
manOwlwith no icon23:06
Juestok bazhang23:06
manOwlohsix: i don't use developmental software23:06
manOwli stay on stable releases23:06
Juestdosen't help -.-23:06
Senixohsix: sweet thanks23:06
manOwlwhich is why I am a bit peeved23:06
ohsixmanOwl: fair enough, but there's only so much you can ask for if you opted out of the entire process23:06
bazhangJuest, to fix grub, sure it does, if you read it23:07
ohsixmanOwl: i've been finding that out over the last year or so :]23:07
tensorpuddingSenix: generally speaking, files ending in .run are executable scripts (make sure that it's marked executable)23:07
manOwlI might have to file a couple bugs.23:07
Juestyeah, but i just want lilo23:07
Juestgrub is ok23:07
tensorpuddingSenix: you can do this by right-clicking and going to properties23:07
ohsixmanOwl: please do, the blank icon thing you just mentioned sounds like a real bug23:07
DrooseHello everyone23:07
bazhangJuest, then why ask about grub explicitly23:07
manOwlyeah23:07
manOwli'm taking a video of it now23:07
manOwland gonna post it on launchapd23:07
ohsixmuch appreciated23:07
Juestand how do i edit directly the config that update-grub generates?23:08
DrooseI have a question regarding the new unity desktop if someone could provide some help. I really appreciate it23:08
Juestbecause i need the true listing of boot choices23:08
bazhangJuest, I just told you. read that link23:08
tensorpuddingmanOwl: there's a video somewhere on http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/ that shows how to do it23:08
Juestok23:08
guntbertJuest: usually you don't23:08
ohsixmanOwl: and in a manner of speaking, unity is not ready for primetime yet, insofar as they wanted to release it and people to use it; it's not an LTS afterall, all these eyes on it now, and yourself and others filing bugs will straighten it out pretty fast23:08
Juestyeah, /etc/default/grub dosen't fit my needs23:08
Juest!grub23:09
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)23:09
bazhangguntbert, he wants to use lilo, no idea why he's asking this23:09
manOwlohsix: i don't think it's a bad idea, i think it's kinda cool23:09
Juestyeah, i want lilo, but also that23:09
manOwlohsix: but there are some things..23:09
sven_Hello. I just installed ubutu 11.04 on a computer with touchscreen. It is a Ideacom IDC 6650. The poniter behaves starange - more like a touchpap, than a touchscreen. Any Ideas how to fix that ?23:09
guntbertbazhang: that may be a language problem too :)23:09
bazhanghttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2   <--------- Juest23:09
ohsixmanOwl: well it's a design, they need to flesh it out as a whole to see if it works, which is a tough thing to do23:09
manOwlohsix: for example, a lot of apps in the repositories have 1995 icons that look like shit23:09
manOwland when those icons are shown in unity23:09
DrooseI want to revert to the old desktop style. I am not a fan of this new launcher system23:09
Juestand i need what to put in /etc/lilo.conf23:09
manOwlits just ugly23:10
bazhangmanOwl, no cursing please23:10
jribDroose: select "classic" at the login screen23:10
tensorpuddingyeah, that's an issue unfortunately23:10
ohsixmanOwl: yea theres not a lot they can do about that, those are provided files; they did put a lot of icons for popular software into the main ubuntu icon theme though23:10
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SolnseI was hoping somebody could point me in the right direction.... since upgrading to 11, ubuntu hangs on checking battery state. I can't seem to find anything through searches. Is there something I can do to fix this problem?23:10
Droose@jrib thankyou23:10
manOwlohsix: sure there is, they should just remove the apps23:10
manOwla lot of them are trash anyway23:10
tensorpuddingmanOwl: which ones?23:10
Juestso?23:11
tensorpuddingmanOwl: that kind of defeats the purpose23:11
manOwltensorpudding: there are misc apps being shown in the "hey download this" part23:11
bazhangJuest, so what?23:11
manOwland they have ugly icons23:11
ohsixmanOwl: ehhhh that's not something that's really done unless there's no maintainer, and everyone has a different idea of what's good and what isn't23:11
guntbertmanOwl: please stop that ranting - doesn't help here at all23:11
rach0Solnse, do you get the "Checking battery state" msg23:11
fatblueduckhow can i move the workspace switcher icon to the top of the dash?23:11
manOwlI don't care to be interrupted with information about some text based roleplaying game from 199823:11
Solnserach0, exactly23:11
manOwlwhen I'm searching the apps on my desktop23:11
bazhangmanOwl, thats enough23:11
jigynetwhat?23:11
ohsixmanOwl: yea what guntbert said, this has kind of ran off from me explaining things to a mini rant, which isn't appropriate here23:11
jigynetlols23:11
JayWalker1hey guys, I'm trying to set up triple monitors in 10.04 (with compiz enabled and using all 3 monitors as one X screen). This isn't possible with xinerama/twinview, anyone know a way that works?23:11
manOwlohsix: i will have to put it in a blog.23:12
Juestbecause of some fstab non-ordinary uids i need to fix fstab or lilo.conf handwitring23:12
jigyneti used to run a dial up bbs23:12
manOwlsorry23:12
jigyneti had all kinds of text games23:12
ohsixmanOwl: i thought that was weird too :D it searches uninstalled software23:12
Juestthat's what i am asking for23:12
Stereocaulon_manOwl, just join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to rant23:12
Jordan_UJuest: What are you trying to accomplish that you can't figure out how to do with grub2?23:12
rgrJuest: whats a non ordinary uid?23:12
jigyneti kinda want to start a new dial up bbs23:12
marcin_CONTECIN23:12
bazhangjigynet, got an ubuntu support question?23:12
Stereocaulon_jigynet, Ah, you too, loved Omega-rpg, still know it?23:12
jigynetyes 11 is still crashing java23:12
rach0Solnse, get into recovery terminal and try sudo apt-get install -reinstall gnome-power-manager23:13
Solnserach0: during boot is just starts to hang and does nothing, the last thing I see on the list is checking battery state23:13
ohsixmanOwl: fixing that will probably come with popcon and ratings from software-center, which are new; but will eventually rank used software to some degree, then they can be sorted when provided as suggestions for not yet installed software23:13
Ultimate_Chaosokay23:13
Ultimate_Chaosanother problem23:13
jigynetlol no i have no clue about any text games these days, i'm all 3d rpg fps now23:13
Solnserach0: ok, and that's all I should do, then reboot and it should boot?23:13
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Ultimate_Chaoshow do i get applications to launch from the sidebar23:13
rgrno.23:13
Aikarwhere do you report bugs in ubuntu one? ubuntu one wont let me sync "Purchased from Ubuntu One" if that directory is a symlink. I symlinked it to a diff harddrive and it wont let me sync unless its a plain folder23:13
jigyneti need a new pc tho =c23:13
rach0it should although it may throw out another error but at least you get back to GUI23:13
ohsixrgr: address who you are talking to23:14
JayWalker1nobody has any info on 3 monitor setups?23:14
rgrit might. but unlikely. since its unlikely that reinstalling it will change anything since the config files are already set up.23:14
ohsixrgr: please23:14
ohsix!who23:14
ubottuAs you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)23:14
Solnserach0: thank you very much for your response, I will go try it now.23:14
sven_Question: Any hints how to configure a touchscreen in ubuntu ?23:14
jigynetSo, how do i get java to stop crashing? what is known to cause this in 10 and 11?23:14
Juestok, so i want, * things that lilo.conf needs  * grub config that update-grub generates * fix gnome23:14
Ultimate_Chaosohsix: do you know how to get applications to run off the sidebar?23:14
ohsixAikar: on launchpad.net, you can use ubuntu-bug to fill in some default fields for you too23:15
ohsixUltimate_Chaos: i don't know much about practical use of unity, as i don't use it myself23:15
rgrJuest: You still have given NO reason as to why you would use lilo.23:15
Juesttesting pleasure23:15
rach0Solnse, you're welcome, if something goes wrong feel free to ask23:15
Juestyeah, i am curious23:15
Juesti do test for myself (that's testing pleasure)23:15
jigynetalso, to circumvent this firefox java,ubu11 bug.. what other browser could i use23:15
ohsixJuest: you don't need to justify what you want to do, insofar as that people might want to know what you're doing so they can offer a better solution23:15
Jordan_UJuest: If you're just curious then you'll need to figure it out on your own. I think it's pretty clear by this point that you're not going to get lilo support here.23:16
rgrthen ask in a lilo forum. Ubuntu defaults to grub. you are far more likely to get informed opinions elsehwere that its actually used.23:16
ohsixJuest: the problem with lilo being so ancient is you have constraints on what filesystems it can read to get access to its boot files, chances are it's not going to work23:16
sdegutis<323:16
XzargXanyone running an asus p8p67 MB (base model, not PRo or anything) with Natty. would appreciate user  experience before purchase. thx23:16
ohsixrgr: it's still in the repositories, if you don't have anything to add please stop23:16
Juestlilo's debian default???23:16
rgrno23:17
Soothsayeris the user created in ubuntu a part of the 'root' group ?23:17
sdegutis:)23:17
jigynetdang firefox is slow..23:17
Juestoh?23:17
ohsixJuest: i doubt it23:17
bazhangJuest, you're on debian?23:17
rgrdebian is grub too and has been for ages23:17
swebwhy ubuntu 11 have bad failure on GPU and hardware ? what's the problem ?23:17
LxndrI upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on my laptop. However, now whenever I start the laptop, it gives me a splash screen that says "Ubuntu studio Linux for creative humans" and does not move past that point. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?23:17
rgrSoothsayer: that is a non Q. What "user"? And when?23:17
Juestno, i am at ubuntu, just wondering. ubuntu is based in debian23:17
jigynet3rd problem i'm having.. i can't switch and use diffrent desktops in my xubuntu install..if i select others the menu bars dont show up23:18
ohsixSoothsayer: yes, and the group is "admin"23:18
Soothsayerrgr, my issue is this.. apache's default location for web files is at /var/www/23:18
ohsixSoothsayer: you mean people who are able to sudo, no?23:18
Ultimate_Chaosrgr: no matter what i do my internet will not work23:18
rgrit is. but debian defaults to grub.23:18
rgrSoothsayer: correct23:18
Soothsayerhow do I make that file writable by the user logged in?23:18
rgryou dont23:18
Soothsayerdirectory*23:18
Jordan_UJuest: Lilo is not Debian's default, and hasn't been for a *long* time. Debian's default is also grub2.23:18
ohsixSoothsayer: you don't want to do that23:18
sdegutisthis is pretty sweet, im not gonna lie about it23:18
Soothsayerhmm23:18
sdegutisreally digging it so far.23:18
rgrnormally you would symbolically link back to that users files23:18
ohsixSoothsayer: you want to add a user to the group able to edit files there23:18
Juestoh23:18
id10tI can't seem to get www.linux.org to load up, anyone else able to?23:18
rgrOr I certainly do.23:19
jigynet4th issue.. how do i go about setting up a ntfs swap for ubuntu without takeing out the boot secotr23:19
ohsixSoothsayer: or set it up so it looks for files elsewhere for your user23:19
merlotid10t: I wasn't able to earlier either23:19
rgrThe fact you asked means I suspect you dont understant permissions. YOu need to understand them if you want to play with apache2.23:19
ohsixid10t: http://isup.me/www.linux.org23:19
Soothsayerohsix, hmm.. "you want to add a user to the group able to edit files there"23:19
guntbertsdegutis:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?23:19
id10tmerlot, thanks for the confo23:19
ohsixSoothsayer: i presume the group is "www", no?23:19
sdegutisbrb23:19
id10tohsix, thats a great link, thanks23:19
rgrSoothsayer: I strongly recommend NOT doing that. Link back to your home directory files. Much easier to back then too.23:19
rgrback up23:20
Juestedit: i want, * grub config that update-grub generates * fix gnome23:20
rgrJust is clearly trolling.23:20
Soothsayerohsix, the var/www 's owner is root in the Properties dialog for that directory23:20
hiexpoid10t, www.linux.com23:20
Juest:(23:20
bazhangJuest, fix gnome? please clarify23:20
ohsixrgr: apache doens't follow symlinks by default, and you have to setup mod_userdir otherwise23:20
Soothsayerrgr, hmm.. that also sounds like a good option23:20
rgrSoothsayer: please read why i said. Dont go adding users to www-data etc until you know what you're doing. Use a symbolic link for now.23:20
id10thiexpo, www.linux.com is a different site23:21
rgrYou will thank me in the long run if you nede to reinstall etc ;)23:21
Soothsayerrgr, yup, I'm reading you.23:21
Mannequinhi. Just upgraded to 11.04 (from 10.10). The process was pretty smooth, although Grub2 just exploded (it boot into grub rescue mode)23:21
ohsixwhatever you do, don't change permissions on those files, change the users you want to access those files23:21
Juestmy gnome 2.32 got broken because of gnome3. and nothing works, only /usr/share/applications/*.desktop23:21
kingofswordshi am i here?23:21
Mannequinthankfully, I've already solved it23:21
hiexpoid10t, there is a linux.org/uk23:21
Jordan_U!gnome3 | Juest23:21
ubottuJuest: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.23:21
rgrdoes sound pretty smooth to me ;) I guess epxectations have changed ;)23:21
Juestand it fails to confifure23:21
Soothsayerrgr: So change the apache config of symlink /var/www to go to a directory under my home directory ?23:21
ohsixSoothsayer: theres a ubuntu server guide to setup and do most tasks with apache as well23:21
rgrs/does/doesn't23:21
Mannequinbut, of course, a non tech-saavy user will have a hard time if the same happens after she upgrades to 11.0423:22
Juestis not supported but is there and is not ppa23:22
rgror put in a link in var/www to point back.23:22
Juesti am using maverick23:22
jigynetso we are stuck with an unsupported gui...23:22
rgrme, I point the links in my vhost files back to my home dir.23:22
jigynetthats wonderful!! way to go ubuntu!23:22
ohsixSoothsayer: i suggest reading the user guide, it tells you  how to setup virtual hosts, and they can store their files in your user directory; don't go modifying the in place files23:22
id10tgnome3 should work great under a virtual box23:22
kingofswordscant get tucan manager to add links?23:22
Juestyeah, but gnome3 replacing gnome 2.32?23:22
Mannequinso far, it seems to run pretty smooth23:23
Soothsayerohsix, ye, I'm looking at those. Well, I just have one default virtual-host which I'll be using23:23
ProfessorBaconi can't get used to unity23:23
ProfessorBaconwill there always be an "ubuntu-classic"?23:23
Juestgnome3 upgrading*23:23
id10tProfessorBacon: you can switch your default desktop back to classic23:23
ohsixSoothsayer: then use the tools to do it :D don't stick symlinks in random places23:23
Mannequinthe only "issue" is that changing desktop background image makes the system *really sluggish* during the image transition (fade in/out)23:23
rgrSoothsayer: e.g a vhost file enabled using a2ensite : http://pastebin.com/rhBmibKG23:23
ProfessorBaconid10t: yeah, i'm just scared it will disappear in future releases23:23
ohsixSoothsayer: i suggest leaving the default and creating a site for the actual host it'll be reachable by23:23
id10tProfessorBacon: i hope not, its nice to fall back on23:24
rgrthat vhost is stored "locally" as well and symlinked to from sites-available.23:24
LxndrI upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on my laptop. However, now whenever I start the laptop, it gives me a splash screen that says "Ubuntu studio Linux for creative humans" and does not move past that point. Please help me get back on my computer. Please?23:24
Soothsayerrgr, ye, and is shamrockirishbar.com an entry in your host file? (I'm setting up a development server here)23:24
Soothsayerohsix, makes sense.23:24
ohsixSoothsayer: it's important to never mess with deployed files permissions, they come from the maintainer and are set appropriately, you might introduce a security problem changing them23:24
pragmaticenigmaProfessorBacon:  That is the nice part about the linux community... even if Ubuntu stops supporting Gnome 2 there will be others willing to help get it installed23:24
rgrno its an external site.23:24
rgrbut can be of course.23:25
notlistening<-- is happy he has caught a few bugs tonight23:25
ProfessorBaconwithout the window selector widget, my multimonitor setup gets confusing fast23:25
Juestwell, what i have to do to make the package configuration work? and is gnome the thing that i am having troubles with23:25
drawmeatHey everyone, does anyone know where i can find step by step instructions from installing a runable version of xubuntu on a usb drive.23:25
bazhangJuest, what package configuration?23:25
bazhangdrawmeat, pendrivelinux.com23:26
CONTECIN?23:26
Juestthe one that's is done with debpkg/apt-get23:26
Juestsome gnome packages have this trouble23:26
drawmeatbazhang, you are a wonderful and undoubtedly sexy human being23:26
Juestso i can't fully configure it23:26
id10twell I'm off, bye all23:27
Soothsayerohsix, rgr: ok got it. So I'll setup a virtualhost with some dummy domain name like soothsayer.com and add it to my host files. For someone to externally access it, I'll add an alias for the external domain.23:27
syrinx__is the OMG natty guide having issues?  seems like all the links (dash, launcher, etc) point to the same page23:27
notlisteningAm I right thinking that banshee is the default player now?23:27
Juestumm, no helpings ???23:27
Jordan_U!details | Juest23:28
ubottuJuest: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."23:28
arrrghhhnotlistening, yes23:28
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notlisteningGreat move ubuntu :D23:28
jigynetis there a wubi channel?23:28
Guest84397server #irc.efnet.net23:28
bazhangjigynet, nope23:28
jigynet=/23:28
ohsixnotlistening: it has a "Recommends" in ubuntu-desktop, that's all it amounts to ;]23:28
hiexpoJordan_U, pm23:29
Jordan_Uhiexpo: Sure.23:29
jigyneti attempted to make a ntfsswap in windows, but linux doesnt have access to it, not even listed in gpart23:29
kingofswordsany 1 recommend download mgr?23:29
LxndrOkay, I guess nobody can help me. :( I'll try the forums, I guess.23:29
rgrkingofswords: for what?23:30
jigynetsays there are 3 partitions blocked or secured..23:30
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Juestok, i am using ubuntu 10.10 in a virtualbox, i am having troubles with audio, gnome, grub/lilo and compiz. any logs? and how to use sys-v?23:30
kingofswordsfor downloading23:30
rgrok... have fun.23:30
Juestlol?23:30
kingofswordsoh sorry 4 ubuntu23:30
bazhangJuest, why would you need lilo for virtualbox23:30
Juestwell, uinstalling lilo right now23:31
bazhangJuest, answer my question please23:31
notlisteningkingofswords, what you downloading from where?23:31
tommylommykinsohai23:31
tommylommykinsmy netbook won't run unity23:31
pragmaticenigmaanybody have any good solutions to getting 11.04 and a broadcom 4306 wireless card working? all the tutorials I find for 43xx only work with 4312 and up23:31
tommylommykinsit complains about missing 3d drivers/hardware23:32
tommylommykinsis there any way I can force it?23:32
tommylommykinswell, not missing23:32
tommylommykinscrappy23:32
rgrbazhang: he is trolling23:32
kingofswordsoh from mediashare23:32
Juestok, now it dosen't matter because i unistalled lilo23:32
zisetest for irc23:32
rgrkingofswords: think a little. what browser for example.23:32
* Juest is not trolling23:32
kingofswordsfirefox23:32
ziseubuntu 11.0423:32
TrentonAdamshey guys, I'd like to hook into gnome's auto mount system, from a shell script, to be able to back up my android SD card automatically every time I connect.23:32
jigynettommy it sounds like a chipset may need to be installed or re-installed what does lspci report23:33
kingofswordsis chromium better for restarting dls rgr?23:33
TrentonAdamsAny ideas on how to do that?23:33
codeFiendhi all23:33
codeFiendi'm having problems installing from usb image23:33
codeFiendubuntu 11.04 onto an exopc tablet23:33
tommylommykinsthat's a point, I am actually missing drivers23:33
kingofswordsi have tucan dl mgr but it wont start23:33
jigynetand pls try to keep as much details on one line pls.23:33
sdegutis/me cant help with that issue, sorry23:33
rgrright kingofswords , there are multiple download managers for firefox, all easily tried. Why not attempt to see what you like from the firefox add ons?23:33
LxndrI am using Ubuntu 11.04, having just done the internal upgrade from Ubuntu 10.10. It is on my laptop. I am attempting to start up my laptop after the upgrade. Unfortunately, it APPEARS to start correctly. However, it hangs on a splash screen that says Ubuntu is for creative humans, and does not give me any ability to further interact with the program. Can anyone help?23:33
codeFiendit never even hits the installer, just hangs there with 'CPU1 is not responding' message23:33
^MikeIs GNOME 3 stable on ubuntu? The PPA has warnings that demons will fly out your nose, but I've heard it runs ok...23:33
* tommylommykins -> sorting things out23:33
kingofswordsrgr thx23:34
codeFiendanyone see that error before? any tips on where to look for help?23:34
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ikonia^Mike: the PPA's are unsupport, ask the maintainer23:34
notlisteningkingofsword, have you thought to use wget?23:34
rgr^Mike: not its not stable. far from it.23:34
sdegutis/me prefers curl to wget :)23:34
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jigynettommy yup drivers wont be installed if hw is not detected..with some integrated gfx if not dont in step...will not install properly23:34
ikoniasdegutis: can you stop with the "/me" attempts please - just talk23:34
rgrnolistening that is silly advice for a noob who is using a browser to access download site ;)23:34
jigynetdone23:34
kingofswordsyeh i got a bit list of dl mgr other day..just didnt know which was any good23:34
rgrkingofswords: very subjective.23:35
rgrtry them. Its so easy.23:35
kingofswordsnotlistening, ill try that one afterwhat rgr suggested23:35
^Mikergr: ok, thanks for the warning23:35
rgrread the reviews23:35
kingofswordsrgr firefox couldnt retrieve any dl mgr addons23:35
jigynettommy i believe your hardware is supported23:35
notlisteningkingofswords, sudo apt-get install multiget23:35
asdf_mscso getlibs comes up as bad quality, anyone used it?23:35
tommylommykinsjigynet: Will this have changed between ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04? 10.10 and below has always found all drivers that I need automatically..23:35
rgrusing wget or curl is plain silly since you will frequently still want to click, confirm and download. Most use wget or curl underneatha nyway. They are no more efficient whatsoever.23:36
SolnseSince I upgraded to 11, ubuntu hangs while booting.... the last thing I see is "checking battery state..." I think the problem is related to my graphics driver because I am able to boot into failsafe, low graphics mode. How can I upgrade my graphics driver to see if it fixes the problem?23:36
kingofswordsnothingspecial, thx23:36
jigynethmm..23:36
jigynet11 is quite new23:36
tommylommykinsooh, also, is gnome-3 worth using on 11.04?23:36
guntbert!gnome3 | tommylommykins23:36
ubottutommylommykins: Gnome 3 is not currently supported on Ubuntu. A PPA for natty is available at https://launchpad.net/~gnome3-team/+archive/gnome3 but these packages are EXPERIMENTAL and UNSTABLE, will break Unity and possibly other parts of your system, and safe downgrading is not possible.23:36
rgrsometimes I really despair at people telling noobs to use things like wget. its as if you want to confuse them and screw up their acceptance of a *GUI* Linux distro.23:37
adzydoes anyone know if i format my ubuntu partition will it remove grub also?23:37
tommylommykinsoh23:37
ikoniaadzy: no, grub is on the mbr23:37
tommylommykinswith that in mind, try it in a VM first?23:37
jigynet? when does 11 expire? how supported is itt? i know it's quite a work of art!?23:37
kneaux...Can somebody tell me how I'm supposed to use this new version of Ubuntu? All my context menus have been taken away from me, and the new Help is completely unnavigable.23:37
luigi_panacheHello... I've never used IRC and I'm in need of help with a headless server. Who and where should I ask for help?23:37
arrrghhhjigynet, i assume you mean how long is it supported for...?23:37
adzyikonia, mbr? excuse my lack of knowledge ;)23:37
[segfault]Getting the hang of Unity here, but it seems rather sluggish to show the new side bar.  Anyone know of a setting to change the delay of the unity bar to something less?  It takes almost a full second to come up atm.23:37
kingofswordsim dling rom for my phone which i use as modem but its only dling 3k/s...nothing dodgy23:37
zvacetjigynet: 18 months for natty23:37
jigynetarrrghhh, yes23:37
guntbertluigi_panache: try #ubuntu-server23:38
ikonialuigi_panache: just ask23:38
ikoniaadzy: no problem "master boot record" small chunk of disk that your machine boots from23:38
jigynetzvacet, sweet23:38
coz_luigi_panache,  definitly here and also  you could try ##linux channel ,, where you type here type  /join ##linux23:38
arrrghhhjigynet, looks like until october of 201223:38
kingofswordswhy wont my firefox find any addons?23:38
Fr33d0mAnyone knowo how to get the Liferea icon back into the top panel in Natty?23:39
adzyikonia, so if i format my partition and install ubuntu 11.04 will it update my grub ?23:39
arrrghhhkingofswords, any?  you're going thru tools -> addons -> extensions?23:39
pragmaticenigma!ask | luigi_panache23:39
arrrghhhkingofswords, sorry, the first one.  get addons.23:39
ikoniaadzy: if you install 11.04 grub will get re-applied to the mbr, so "yes" in a basic answer to your question23:39
zvacetadzy: yes if you put it on mbr23:39
Ultimate_ChaosMESSAGE TO ALL: my system is updateing but it wont connect to the internet23:39
kingofswordsarrrghhh, yeh tools>addons23:39
SolnseCan somebody point me in the right direction please? Since I upgraded to 11, ubuntu hangs while booting.... the last thing I see is "checking battery state..." I think the problem is related to my graphics driver because I am able to boot into failsafe, low graphics mode. How can I upgrade my graphics driver to see if it fixes the problem?23:40
adzyikonia, thanks for your help23:40
adzyzvacet, thanks23:40
ikoniaUltimate_Chaos: don't need all user messages, if you have a question, ask23:40
pragmaticenigmaUltimate_Chaos: are you upgrading using the CD?23:40
arrrghhhkingofswords, i assume FF can connect to websites no prob?  have you tried thru addons.mozilla.org?23:40
Ultimate_ChaosMESSAGE TO ALL: [Network: Unmanaged]23:40
Ultimate_Chaosno23:40
zvacetadzy: say tnx to ikonia23:40
sam04938475hey   im using 10.10   how do upgrade to the latest version?   sorry for a dull qustion  i tried the alt f2 thing.23:40
adzyzvacet, i did ;)23:40
arrrghhhlol23:40
kingofswordsarrrghhh, yeh no probelms23:40
jigynetlol, i'm d/ling seamonkey at 1kbps hmm  must be busy...23:40
zvacetadzy:  8-)23:40
dtulchini have a question, after upgrading to 11.04, my compiz options for edges are gone...i try to install simplecompiz and it tells me i cant .... (options for effects like minimize all screens, see all desktops, etc.)23:40
kingofswordsand i m on addons tab23:40
Ultimate_Chaos...23:41
luigi_panacheHow do I private message someone here?23:41
jigynetlol23:41
ikonialuigi_panache: best to just ask the channel23:41
Ultimate_Chaoscan someone help me fix this issue then?23:41
pragmaticenigmaluigi_panache: Do not PM people, instead ask your question in the main room so others can benefit from the solution23:41
schnuffleluigi_panache:  /msg <nick> <message, ask before you pm23:41
zvacetsam04938475: from updates manager but be sure that 10.10 is up-to-date23:41
notlisteningsam, can you open a terminal?23:41
Juestluigi_panache: or /q <nick>23:41
Fr33d0m?23:41
pragmaticenigmaUltimate_Chaos: Is your network being unavailable stopping you from performing the upgrade?23:42
sam04938475zvacet,   notlistening    i am using the most upto date i just did a upgrade.  and yeah i can get into terminal X23:42
tommylommykinsis there an IRC channel for unity, or does #ubuntu count?L23:42
kingofswordsmultiget doesnt work either23:42
ikoniatommylommykins: unity on ubuntu is supported here23:42
kingofswordsits http://download982.mediafire.com/gqq78pkjt80g/wt7nwyubj2i4cu6/Japanese_Jellyfish_RLS9.zip link..is that right23:42
nulledI Love Ubuntu 11.0423:42
jigynet!unity > tommy23:42
Juest!unity | tommy23:42
ubottutommy: Unity is a shell for GNOME, but it is not GNOME-shell. See http://unity.ubuntu.com and http://www.jonobacon.org/2010/10/31/unity-some-further-clarification-points/ for more information. Have a question, check http://askubuntu.com/questions/tagged/unity23:42
jigynethehe, i'm such a noob23:42
notlisteningsam04938475, so you running the most up to date 10.10 and want to upgrade to 11.04?23:43
notlisteningsam04938475, or did i misunderstand23:43
SeanInSeattleI'm super confused on what to do.  I've just upgraded my personal laptop to 11.04, and I can't login.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I've got an asus u81a laptop23:43
sam04938475notlistening,   thats right.  im running 10.10.23:43
sam04938475notlistening,   want to upgrade to 11.0423:43
dtulchini have a question, after upgrading to 11.04, my compiz options for edges are gone...i try to install simplecompiz and it tells me i cant .... (options for effects like minimize all screens, see all desktops, etc.)23:43
tommylommykinswhat is the overall stability of unity considered to be?23:43
dtulchini removed unity desktop dui23:43
dtulchin*gui23:43
kingofswordsdoes any1 know  a file mgr that actually works?23:43
lcbSeanInSeattle, what are you getting now?23:43
notlisteningsam04938475, okay here we go you got that terminal warmed up yet?23:44
ghostnappaHey guys23:44
dtulchini'm trying to get edges to work...23:44
sam04938475notlistening   aye!  lol23:44
ghostnappaI have a problem, and a rather specific one23:44
nulledunity is stable...there are some MINOR graphical glitches but other than that very stable23:44
SeanInSeattlelcb:  I get a frozen screen.  Oh, and btw:  I don't even have to try and login, it freezes a min or two after having loaded the login screen.23:44
arrrghhhghostnappa, just ask.  don't ask to ask.23:44
asdf_mscokay i've got 64 bit nvidia driver, and ia32 shared libraries. what other 32 bit libraries are there that i would need for 32 bit WoW?23:44
TrentonAdamshey guys, I'm using ubuntu 11.04 my whole system is using the standard theme (dark title bars with orange X, etc.  But, my menu system uses it for just a little while, while logging in, then it switches back to an old windows 3.1 style super 3d buttons look.  Any ideas?23:45
coz_TrentonAdams,  log off and back on again23:45
lcbSeanInSeattle, did you finish the upgrade process or you interrupted it? did you update your previous ubuntu?23:45
benk20001network (ethernet + wifi) stopped working after upgrading to 11.04. forums answers didn't work. Please help!23:45
ghostnappaokay, so on my main PC, various shmup games seem to be uncontrollable. Most think that I am holding up+left, but rrootage just doesn't move at all23:45
TrentonAdamscoz_: done that MANY times, doesn't do anything.23:45
jakerueI updated from 10.10 to 11.04 yesterday but my graphics card doesn't support Unity.  I got an error message tossing me back into gnome2 yesterday but when I boot I get into gnome and now I cannot seem to access my data folders.  All my browsers give seg faults (except opera) and now in xfce I can operate but cannot access my home folder at all.  Get error Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)23:45
coz_TrentonAdams,  oh!!  mm which video card?23:45
pragmaticenigmaTrentonAdams: disable the desktop effects, your system is going into graphics safe mode23:46
ghostnappait happens on ubuntu variants, fedora, and every other linux install that I have tried23:46
kingofswordsi want to dl file from rapidshare can i do this in a download mgr?23:46
ghostnappaso it isn't just ubuntu exclusive23:46
TrentonAdamscoz_: Not sure, but it was working in 10.10, just a sec, I'll look23:46
Fr33d0mHow do I get the Liferea Icon to show in the top panel23:46
coz_TrentonAdams, ok  is this an upgrade?23:46
TrentonAdamspragmaticenigma: if it was doing that, why do all the other windows work?23:46
TrentonAdamscoz_: yes upgrade23:46
SeanInSeattlelcb: Yes, I finished the upgrade.   I didn't interrupt anything.  Do you mean, "did [I] reboot asap after it told me to?" answer: no, I didn't.23:46
coz_TrentonAdams,   ok open a terminal and type   lspci | grep -i vga23:47
SeanInSeattlelcb: I waited a couple of hours.23:47
dtulchinanyone know how to get edges to work in ubuntu 11.04 without unity?23:47
jakerueI tried every single option including ubuntu classic and safe mode but same unresponsive desktop...only xfce lets me do anything23:47
TrentonAdamscoz_: yeah, was about to do that, just a sec.23:47
TrentonAdamscoz_: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 365023:47
sdegutishello :)23:47
TrentonAdamscoz_: I'm not using the proprietary drive23:47
lcbSeanInSeattle, then reboot... :o tell us what happens then23:47
TrentonAdamscoz_: Or, I don't think I switched to that.23:47
luigi_panacheMy headless server running 11.04 is currently unable to get online via ethernet. I upgraded from 10.10 last night, and once do-release-upgrade finished I just went to sleep, hoping the server would be alright in the morning. Now, I have a monitor and keyboard hooked up to the server, but no amount of ifconfig, ifup, or anything will make either of the computer's connections work. Before upgrading to 11.04, I also moved my LVM root from a 3 disk pa23:48
luigi_panacheta RAID 5 array to a single SATA hard drive, which required a lot of tweaking of GRUB2 and I think may have affected boot time errors, but I'm not sure. And that's my situation.23:48
coz_TrentonAdams,  mm  ok I know nothing about ati,, I was hoping it was nvidia because then I would suggest uninstalling that driver then reinstalling since it most likely a different driver version..hoewver for ati I  have no idea23:48
manOwlI am sorry for ranting earlier23:48
coz_TrentonAdams,  the problems with upgrades is many times old config files are left behind23:48
SeanInSeattlelcb: I've done that many times, and the same thing occurs:  it loads like normal until loading up the login page, and then it runs a bit slower than normal... next I try and login, and it freezes.  If I don't try to login and just wait a little bit, it still freezes.23:48
isarlHi all. I'm having some trouble with nouveau and Unity after my recent upgrade to 11.04.  I'm comfortable in the commandline to troubleshoot it, but not sure what to do at the moment.  Any help?23:49
SeanInSeattlelcb: it seems like the graphics card settings are set too high.... or something....23:49
benk20001please help - network doesn't work after upgrading to 11.0423:49
ghostnappaokay, so on my main PC, various shmup games seem to be uncontrollable. Most think that I am holding up+left, but rrootage just doesn't move at all. it happens on ubuntu variants, fedora, and every other linux install that I have tried so it isn't just ubuntu exclusive. Testing in a liveCD environment between two seperate PC's reveals that this is only a problem with my PC and not the other one. This is a problem with na23:49
ghostnappative games, WINE, and MAME. But seems to only be effecting games with joystick support23:49
TrentonAdamscoz_: I deleted .gnome* and that did nothing.23:49
manOwlusually I set the key /apps/metacity/general/button_layout in gconf to move my window buttons to the right23:49
hiexpothats why a fresh install is always better23:49
manOwlbut in unity, when I maximize a window23:49
manOwlthe buttons move to the left of the top bar!23:49
manOwlso if I move my buttons to the right, then maximize.. all my buttons move to the left!?23:50
Ultimate_Chaosno with is weird i can still upgrade even though the network isnt managed23:50
manOwlis there another key?23:50
TrentonAdamscoz_: but if it was a "driver issue" then why the windows look fine, but the menu/task bar system don't?23:50
lcbSeanInSeattle, ok, easy... reboot | press SHIFT after bios messages and then select the second option on the top (recovery menu)23:50
Ultimate_Chaosi still want to be able to use firefox23:50
SeanInSeattlelcb: will do.23:50
kingofswordsis there an android channel?23:50
SeanInSeattlelcb: what then?23:50
coz_TrentonAdams,  good question ,,but I dont have a good answer for you ,, sorry23:50
arrrghhhkingofswords, #android23:50
coz_brb23:50
zvacetTrentonAdams: see under applications>system additional drivers can you install from there23:50
trailoryowhy wont videos play on youtube in firefox 4?23:51
lcbSeanInSeattle, then, select on that recovery menu dpkg | clean | grub | finally failsafeX .. wait...23:51
kingofswordsarrrghhh, thx23:51
arrrghhhtrailoryo, you have FF installed?23:51
arrrghhher flash... sorry23:51
Ultimate_Chaosstupid computer23:51
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TrentonAdamscoz_: I'm going to try and do the disable effects thing, and see what happens.23:51
Ultimate_Chaosat least upgradeing works23:51
th0rUltimate_Chaos: close, it is really 'stupid computer operator'23:52
lcbSeanInSeattle, select Reconfigure then Use default (generic) then OK then CANCEL, then Restart X. reboot when you get the login23:52
kingofswordsany where u dont have 2 be reg'd23:52
TrentonAdamszvacet: looking, just a sec23:52
Ultimate_Chaosth0r: dant be like that23:52
arrrghhhkingofswords, register your nick, you really should.23:52
lcbSeanInSeattle, got everything?23:52
Ultimate_Chaosim just trying to connect to the internet23:52
trailoryoanyone knows why videos wont play on youtube in firefox 4? ;/23:52
SeanInSeattlelcb: working on it, had to reboot a second time because I wasn't holding shift down....23:53
Juesthi, i am using ubuntu 10.10 in a virtualbox and i am having troubles with audio (not working properly gmixer stays at "waiting for sound system"), gnome, grub and compiz. is there any logs where i can get more info to give?23:53
TrentonAdamszvacet: I'm going to try disabling effects, then do the new driver.23:53
TrentonAdamsbe back23:53
lcbSeanInSeattle, ok. don't precipitate urself, go easy23:53
Ultimate_Chaosokay ill be proefessional23:53
zvacetTrentonAdams: you have problem just wit h task bar or23:53
Juestgnome: i installed something that broken the whole gnome23:53
LimadaHi everybody. Hope you can help me. Does anyone know how can I go back to Ubuntu 10.10?23:53
BarnabasJuest, I had the same issue23:53
Juestreally?23:53
Ultimate_Chaosokay23:53
Ultimate_Chaoswith it in a vritualbox23:53
tommylommykinshmm23:53
luigi_panacheCan anyone help me get my server back online? It just refuses to accept that it has two ethernet ports...23:53
tommylommykinsright23:53
rzx237trailoryo: no flash installed, or proxy block the video streaming23:54
th0rJuest: the logs will be in /var/log. You might also try running gmixer from a terminal to see if you get any error messages23:54
BarnabasJuest, try changing the mixing method in pulseaudio23:54
tommylommykinsis using ccsm a bad idea with unity?23:54
SeanInSeattlelcb: lol.  What should I do, run ubuntu in low graphics, reconfigure graphics, troubleshoot, or exit to console?23:54
zvacetLimada: reinstall it23:54
JuestBarnabas: what iusse?23:54
tommylommykinsbecause I appear to have broken it23:54
tommylommykinssomewhat permamently23:54
Juestoh23:54
Ultimate_Chaosyou need to make sure you enabled 3d graphhc acceleration23:54
LxndrI am using Ubuntu 11.04, having just done the internal upgrade from Ubuntu 10.10. It is on my laptop. I am attempting to start up my laptop after the upgrade. Unfortunately, it APPEARS to start correctly. However, it hangs on a splash screen that says Ubuntu is for creative humans, and does not give me any ability to further interact with the program. Can anyone help?23:54
ChronicSyncopetommylommykins, seems that way23:54
lcbSeanInSeattle, Reconfigure Graphics23:54
BarnabasJuest, in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf:23:54
tommylommykinsChronicSyncope: What do you mean? ccsm does break unity?23:54
JuestBarnabas: ah thank you23:54
Limadazvacet, thanks for your answer but if I knew how, I wouldn' t ask.23:55
Barnabaschange resample-method = speex-float-1 to resample-method = auto23:55
Barnabasreboot23:55
Ultimate_Chaos_-¯\_(O¿O)_/¯-_}23:55
lcbSeanInSeattle, so you didn't see what i wrote... then Use Default (generic) | OK | |CANCEL | Restart X23:55
ChronicSyncopetommylommykins, I tried using it with unity and it broke unity until I restarted... I tried using it without unity ("classic desktop") and it works much better23:55
SeanInSeattlelcb: reconfiguring loops on the "how would you like to reconfigure your display..."23:55
tommylommykinsok23:55
JuestBarnabas: i can't reboot, got troubles with grub/lilo23:55
SeanInSeattlelcb: sorry, the screen scrolls by fast on my wife's netbook....23:55
lcbSeanInSeattle, it loops??? or you get a new dialog with 3 options?23:56
tommylommykinsIn that case, what do I need to use to make simple changes to unity? I want to reduce the transparency in the background of terminal windows.23:56
TinchoHi. I am looking for help with an 3d accel. issue. Using natty, ati radeon RS690M, already tried disabling KMS, the X edgers, etc, with no improvements. My glxinfo says I am using the hardware renderer, but nothing that uses 3d works, unless I disable the KMS or force software rendering. Anybody can throw me a rope?23:56
BarnabasJuest, must be grub OR lilo?23:56
zvacetLimada: install maverick again on same partition where is natty now back up your files before23:56
SeanInSeattlelcb:  I get the same dialog with the same three options, regardless which one I choose.23:56
kingofswordshow do i sign in to reg'd name23:56
lcbSeanInSeattle, ok, no probs. after Reconfigure Graphics select Use Default Config23:56
isarlkingofswords: on IRC?  /msg NickServ identify <password>23:57
TrentonAdamszvacet: Yeah, just the menu/task bar, other windows are fine23:57
kingofswordsthx23:57
Juesti don't know exactly but i am trying to use lilo and i need to build lilo.conf by hand and i don't remember how23:57
isarlkingofswords: more info: /msg NickServ help identify23:57
BarnabasJuest, anyway, you can probably make do with restaring pulseaudio23:57
daniel32708I just installed a fresh 11.04 64 bit on a Toshiba satellite A665 (4core, 4gbddr3,nvidia,etc).  I am running the Unity interface.  Suddenly, the whole system crashes (seems to be very random...but i cant get past an hour). Am I the only one getting this? is a bug? any suggestions?23:57
TrentonAdamszvacet: even my KDE based windows look great. :P23:57
daniel32708**it freezes23:57
Limadazvacet, ok. I'll do that. Thanks!23:57
SeanInSeattlelcb: can I reconfigure the graphics once I've booted into low-graphics mode?23:57
lcbSeanInSeattle, the dialogs looks alike, so put attention on the options i write. Use Default Configuration23:57
EvildaemonIs there a way to set up WLAN so that a computer is on my network but not on the internet?23:58
lcbSeanInSeattle, no23:58
zvacetTrentonAdams: maybe you can do something with ccsm but I´m not expert23:58
lcbSeanInSeattle, did you select to run in low graphic mode?23:58
zvacetLimada: np and good luck  :)23:58
JuestEvildaemon: ys23:58
EvildaemonHow?23:58
SeanInSeattlelcb: not yet, but I'm don't seem to be able to get past this screen:  "How would you like to reconfigure your display?"  1) use default, 2) create new, or 3) use backup.23:59
Limadazvacet ;). Thanks, I'll need it XD.23:59
someone235when i try to open a file from the recent document, ubuntu is trying to open it with nautilus and say "Could not display "/home/someone235/blabla.docx\nThe location is not a folder."23:59
nimrod10how do I reinstall firefox 3.6 ? Firefox 4 is not working on maverick i386 for me.23:59
zvacetLimada: you will be ok23:59
JuestEvildaemon: yes but it's someway too complicated because the default is automatic23:59
lcbSeanInSeattle, Use Default. and you are doing right, don't do anything before coming here23:59
hiexpoEvildaemon, there is a network in places set it up23:59
kingofswordsok why is my firefox dl addons not working23:59

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