[00:00] <Caly>  *with
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> work: lsmod    I did say earlier
[00:00] <ActionParsnip> work: use a pastebin to host the output
[00:00] <dark-matter> Caly: I did failsafe graphics mode to force vesa
[00:00] <lovebug> If I wana run perl script as service . how to do it ? I mean I have a vps which runs ubuntu server and I want to run a perl script without stoping even tho I exit from the terminal session ??? anyone ?
[00:00] <Caly> mkay, didn't work for me at all dark-matter
[00:00] <daniel_> how do i get my internet to work in this so called update that should go foreward and improve ubuntu and no go backwards and make the most vital thing on modern computers not work at all
[00:00] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: You mean additional drivers? That is only one possible driver to use, I want to explore other driver options
[00:00] <KNUBBIG> lovebug: either via !screen or as an init script
[00:00] <dark-matter> Caly: That sucks
[00:01] <robertzaccour> how do you put the unity taskbar at the bottom?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: thats all I know
[00:01] <dark-matter> They really should make an easy way to roll back your version if you need to
[00:01] <lovebug> KNUBBIG:  do u have a sample ? I didnt get what u said
[00:01] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: There is like at least 3 different options for drivers to use, and I'd like to know which to use, where would be a good place to go?
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade | dark-matter
[00:01] <lovebug> example*
[00:01] <Caly> dark-matter: well,. i'm up and runnung now, but i gotta get my head around this "gconf error" shit
[00:01] <KNUBBIG> lovebug: you ssh into the server?
[00:01] <lovebug> yes
[00:01] <AaeRohn> Rockj: same result
[00:01] <dark-matter> lol
[00:01] <KNUBBIG> lovebug: okay, I'll pm you
[00:01] <pseubodot> Upgraded 10.10->11.04 and love it, but am just surprised by how the 'emulate 3 button mouse' behaviour does not seem to exist any more ... is there a way to restore this?
[00:01] <lovebug> thanks
[00:02] <ActionParsnip> pseubodot: you may need an xorg.conf file
[00:02] <mala85> Can I easily remove the workspace switcher icon from the Unity launcher?
[00:02] <dark-matter> i am going to program this: sudo dist-downgrade
[00:02] <kwtm> dark-matter: There is a way to do it, but you have to have planned it beforehand in the way you set up your hard drive.  I used it for upgrading from 8.04 to 10.04 and I'm glad I did it.
[00:02] <dark-matter> I should of just made a drive image
[00:02] <pseubodot> ActionParsnip: you mean manually put the Emulate3Button or whatever line back into the xorg.conf?
[00:02] <dark-matter> it would have take an hour and saved me 10
[00:02] <christhecoolboy> I have a problem since I have updated to Ubuntu 11.04, I was wondering If somebodey could help me...
[00:02] <dark-matter> LOL
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> pseubodot: it may be necessary if you can't get it in other ways
[00:03] <daniel_> how do i get my internet to work in this so called update that should go foreward and improve ubuntu and no go backwards and make the most vital thing on modern computers not work at all
[00:03] <KNUBBIG> !screen
[00:03] <Caly> christhecoolboy: welcome to the club
[00:03] <Acriax> KNUBBIG, thanks mate, that did it :)
[00:03] <Rockj> AaeRohn: ohh, we need some scanning drivers maybe. hm.
[00:03] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/download_scn.html
[00:03] <kwtm> dark-matter: Next time, partition your hard drive into 2 small system drives and 1 big data drive.  Have the old operating system on one system drive, and the new one on the other system drive.  They would share the same data drive.  Then you could dual boot into old or new version.
[00:03] <Rockj> AaeRohn: been there? :]
[00:03] <KNUBBIG> Acriax: yey, no problem :)
[00:03] <ForeverDrunk> What repo is php5-curl in?
[00:03] <christhecoolboy> Caly, I've only got one problem... The rest of my Ubuntu Upgrade was ok...
[00:03] <AaeRohn> Rockj: I have the drivers for this MFC
[00:04] <FoolsRun> Hi, so since Natty the kernel now understands IR events from remote controls. Is there any way to stop this and go back the way it was? It makes XBMC uncontrollable with an MCE remote.
[00:04] <daniel_> is there a way to go back to 10.10 without losing everything i have on my computer without dealing with 100 backup discs?
[00:04] <AaeRohn> Rockj: both the printer and scanner drivers from that place
[00:04] <xangua> daniel_: no
[00:04] <CryptoSec> my ClamTk is stating that my Antivirus engine is outdated... does anyone know how i can update it?
[00:05] <Rockj> AaeRohn: ok, I notice there is some scan-key-tool and brscan3 executables/packages. *checking their docs*
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> !downgrade | daniel_
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> CryptoSec: add the clamav ppa
[00:05] <AaeRohn> Rockj: I got the 32 bit, the 64s are an invalid build
[00:06] <Rockj> AaeRohn: type   brscan-skey     (should start running as a background process) then try   brscan-skey -l
[00:06] <CryptoSec> would you give me the url for the clamav ppa  please?
[00:06] <kwtm> daniel_: If your  home  directory and the root directory are on the same drive, it would be hard.  Consider getting an extra hard drive, either internally to store your home directory, or externally as a backup (thus no "100 backup disks") and then back up /home and you can reinstall the older system.
[00:06] <ActionParsnip> CryptoSec: search an ye shall find
[00:06] <Oins> After the upgrade to 11.04, I miss my tray icons. Some tools (e.g. Pidgin) only works with tray icon. If the program is closed, how can i bring it in front again without the tray icon feature ?
[00:06] <daniel_> xangua, do u know hat i shoulddo then im in a pickle 10.10 i had internet 11.04 no internet the wifi indicater led on my keybourd wont glow and the networking tool doesnt evan notice it idk what to do
[00:06] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: which download do i get? download and install or try it from a cd or usb stick?
[00:07] <pseubodot> ActionParsnip: but are there any other ways?
[00:07] <christhecoolboy> Here is my problem, I have ubuntu, my Microphone worked before I upgrade it and I need to use it later tonight for a podcast recording, but... once I switched to Ubuntu 11.04, it no longer works, this is the only problem major problem that I have had with the Ubuntu 11.04 upgrade...
[00:07] <CryptoSec> alright will do thanks
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> pseubodot: thats the only way I can think of, maybe there are other ways but I'm not sure
[00:07] <pseubodot> ActionParsnip: cool, thanks!
[00:07] <Rockj> AaeRohn: check http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn3.html  , says to    press the scan button and select user and seelct destination and start?
[00:08] <coolkid25> also ActionParsnip
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: you want the desktop ISO and burn it slowly to a CD or copy to USB stick using unetbootin etc
[00:08] <daniel_> all i know was i wish there was a warning or soemthing teling me my internet wont work after i do a so called update update
[00:08] <AaeRohn> Rockj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601044/
[00:08] <kwtm> Ubuntu should really make it a default to be able to dual boot into either of two versions of the OS.  These upgrades can really screw you over.
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: remember to MD5 sum
[00:08] <coolkid25> ialright
[00:08] <Random832> kwtm: how do you propose it should manage that?
[00:08] <Rockj> AaeRohn: I asume running that brscan-skey program, it is able to receive the scanning image from your scanner? *wildly guessing out in the wild , hehe*
[00:08] <ActionParsnip> kwtm: how do you mean?
[00:08] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: what if i installed with wubi???
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: then Ive no idea. I dislike wubi and have no knowledge of it. The liveCD method may not work
[00:09] <Random832> you know...
[00:09] <CryptoSec> found it
[00:09] <CryptoSec> thanks
[00:09] <ubuntu_> haha
[00:09] <Random832> it would be interesting to have a distribution designed to live in a chroot
[00:09] <AaeRohn> Rockj: pressing scan > select oputput type > start color or B&W
[00:09] <Glacia> grrrrr
[00:09] <Rockj> AaeRohn: same, any is fine I guess
[00:09] <kwtm> Random832: I think it should, by default, partition into 2 system drives (each 5-10GB in size, say) and the remainder is a data drive where /home  is mounted.  By default at least put /home on a separate partition so the system can be wiped without wiping home.  Install the newest linux into the system drive with the oldest linux.  When it comes time to upgrade, preserve the current version of the OS and install into the other
[00:09] <kwtm> system drive.
[00:09] <ActionParsnip> Random832: you can make it
[00:10] <coolkid25> so ActionParsnip do i want the try it cd or the installstion?
[00:10] <AaeRohn> Rockj: aaand still nthing works
[00:10] <Rockj> AaeRohn: it mentioned destination in the docs, and user ? no prompt for that?
[00:10] <Random832> kwtm: that would be a ridiculous waste of space
[00:10] <AaeRohn> Rockj: nope, nothing
[00:10] <Random832> although...
[00:10] <kwtm> Random832: They could make it an option.  Whether something is "ridiculous" would depend on the opinion of the user, not you.
[00:10] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: try it cd. I'm not sure if you can do this with wubi. You have a lot more work to do because you used wubi
[00:10] <aguitel> anyone try gnome3 in natty ?
[00:10] <daniel_> does anyone know how to fix internet or know a site i shoul go to to get it working i dont mind doing it if i had a wlak through or something just osmeone please help point me in the right direction i realy need some internet
[00:10] <Random832> why hasn't anyone (or has anyone) made a variable-size filesystem
[00:10] <christhecoolboy> Could anyone please take the time to help with my problem, I really need my mic for later tonight...
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> kwtm: debian gives an option of a seperate /home partition in an easily selectable option
[00:11] <Random832> you could implement it with sparse files, or simply with aggressive defragmentation
[00:11] <Random832> [er, the former in a loopback device on top of a traditional filesystem, obviously]
[00:11] <Glacia> ok i really hate 11.04
[00:11] <stravant> I updated to 11.04 and the "File" menu at the top of the screen right now is black-text on black background (as well as the time indicator and the Ubuntu one menu), so I can't see it, is anyone else having this problem?
[00:11] <bizerklurker> Every time I login, I get the same default icons despite removing them and adding new ones ( by right-clicking on apps like skype and pressing "keep in launcher.") I hope I have explained my problem thoroughly - I am a ubuntun00b. Is this just a bug, is it fixable, or am I missing something here?
[00:11] <kwtm> ActionParsnip: Interesting ... sounds like a more conservative option.  I guess it's not avaialble with Ubuntu (I don't know; I'm sticking with 10.04).
[00:11] <dark-matter> WOOT, failsafe graphics got me in and now I am trying to install nvidia drivers
[00:11] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: I'm on 10.10 and it isny an option
[00:11] <coolkid25> what do i do?
[00:11] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh
[00:11] <Rockj> AaeRohn: ok, lets see if adding a udev rule might do the trick then.
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> kwtm: not currently but users can usemanual partitioning and achieve it
[00:12] <daniel_> does anyone know how to fix internet or know a site i shoul go to to get it working i dont mind doing it if i had a wlak through or something just someone please help point me in the right direction i realy need some internet
[00:12] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: what isn't an option?
[00:12] <kwtm> ActionParsnip: That's what I do.  But I see enough hair-pulling after an update that I wonder if they should automate it.
[00:13] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: to download ubuntu 10.10
[00:13] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://welcome.solutions.brother.com/bsc/public_s/id/linux/en/instruction_scn1c.html is some notes about adding an udev rule, it notes is for Ubuntu 9.10 and 10.04 but im sure its the same for 11.04
[00:13] <christhecoolboy> Your ALSA information is in /tmp/alsa-info.txt.SBN7Yihi7e << ActionParsnip
[00:13] <coolkid25> but that is the one i am on
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> kwtm: you may be able to script stuffI guess
[00:13] <coolkid25> what do i do?
[00:13] <christhecoolboy> how do I give you that?
[00:13] <MohammadAG> kwtm, just upgraded my PC (it has a 120GB /home and a 30GB / sans /home), it was pretty seamless
[00:13] <hypodermia> anybody here noticed the system bell in natty doesn't seem to work? or know if there's a bug i should be looking at or a setting i'm missing?
[00:13] <Caly> dark-matter: getting anywhere?
[00:13] <Rockj> AaeRohn: Ill just check if its the correct file to edit.
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: ok then run:  sudo  apt-get install pastebinit; pastebinit /tmp/alsa-info.txt.SBN7Yihi7e
[00:14] <MohammadAG> besides the downloads taking about 5 hours /me blames IL Ubuntu servers
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: that file is on your PC only and I don't have access to it. The pastebin will make a url, what is it?
[00:14] <AaeRohn> Rockj: I gotta run an errand, I'll be back and we can resume beating out heads on our desks about this
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: natty will be fine
[00:14] <Axlin> MohammadAG: that's why i always use the torrents :P
[00:14] <Oday> there is one girl on the interwebs.
[00:14] <dark-matter> Caly: hopefully, I am in the GUI and installing drivers
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> !girls
[00:14] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: which is natty? :x
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> !natty | coolkid25
[00:15] <hypodermia> girls on the internet? pffft.
[00:15] <Oins> I use Ubuntu 11.04. After closing truecrypt, the program goes to background. How can i bring it in front again? Starting it again dops out the message "program already running". At 10.04, it was able to get it back with the tray icon. But how at 11.04?
[00:15] <Rockj> AaeRohn: aye, can you give me roughly an ETA, ill make me some cooffee or something (its 1am here in Norway)
[00:15] <Oday> !thanks | ActionParsnip
[00:15] <maco> hypodermia: you can stop that
[00:15] <hypodermia> maco: what'd i do?
[00:15] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/
[00:15] <christhecoolboy> :)
[00:15] <MohammadAG> Axlin, torrents with apt-get dist-upgrade? :P
[00:15] <kwtm> MohammadAG: I'm not sure you count.  Your N900 could flip over dead on its back with its six legs and antennae splayed out, and you could press some 7-key combination and say, "Yeah, I got it working again, no sweat."
[00:16] <Axlin> MohammadAG: oh, touche. lol
[00:16] <teage> Anyone know how to check what is running on ports?, chkrootkit says bindshell INFECTED port 15.
[00:16] <maco> hypodermia: scoffing at girls on the internet isn't really necessary, especially when ubuntu has an entire subproject devoted to bringing in more women contributors and making them feel welcome enough to stay
[00:16] <spikebike> anyone else use toggle vertical maximize and unity?
[00:16] <coz_> spikebike,  yes
[00:16] <extraclassic> teage: i use nmap for that
[00:16] <Caly> dark-matter: ah, nice. i pretty much puked at the new GUI though, i'm moving stuff to my NAS, while downloading Debian insted
[00:16] <trentg> Anybody why I get connection refused trying to connect (FTP) to ppa.launchpad.net?
[00:16] <MohammadAG> kwtm, small interwebz :P
[00:16] <spikebike> coz_: you get annoying scrolling when you gain/lose focus?
[00:16] <teage> extraclassic, good idea. thanks
[00:16] <kwtm> MohammadAG: Me, I've got my history of upgrade problems to contend with.  (Even now my 10.04 has broken things that my 8.04 didn't have, like errors in Kmail, 30-second freezes in the KDE file dialog, no fullscreen BZflag, etc. etc.)
[00:17] <coz_> spikebike,  mm not so far no...can you detail that?  which app is open ,, what are doing ?
[00:17] <dark-matter> Caly: LOL, I have thought about that many many many times
[00:17] <hypodermia> maco: i'm being ironic. i'm aware. it is just my reaction to play into it when people bring up the whole girls-on-the-internet thing. when people meet me IRL, it gets that much funnier.
[00:17] <spikebike> coz_: open terminal, vertical maximize, generate enough content to scroll
[00:17] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: add:   options snd-hda-intel model=auto    to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[00:17] <Kevin147> Now that I upgraded, my desktop is lagging on minecraft. Why? I don't like this.
[00:17] <spikebike> (ls or just hodl down return0
[00:17] <coz_> spikebike,  I assume you are using compiz for this ...yes?
[00:17] <spikebike> )
[00:17] <spikebike> coz_: ya, unity is a compiz module
[00:17] <Caly> dark-matter: me too, but this fuwgly fkn new interface just med me decide to go all free finally.
[00:17] <coolkid25> wait ActionParsnip isnt natty bad?
[00:17] <coz_> spikebike,  yes I know that :)
[00:17] <thomashc> anyone know how to type lithuanian characters on an english keyboard(ąčęėįšųū etc)?
[00:17] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I did that before, now again?! I even did a bugfix about it...
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: its fine
[00:18] <spikebike> coz_: heh, well just being specific that I'm not using compiz and not unity
[00:18] <spikebike> coz_: does it do that for you as well?
[00:18] <MohammadAG> kwtm, but seriously, I just avoid the GUI update manager and use sed -i 's/maverick/natty/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:18] <Caly> dark-matter: and Debian feels a bit like a safer card than Trisquel yet.
[00:18] <coolkid25> also ActionParsnip should i get 32 bit or 64 bit?
[00:18] <coz_> spikebike,  so you are settings in ccsm.. general options,,, keybinding tab,,, toggle max horizontal and vertical with keybindings ,, yes?
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: you need an option like that, could try model=laptop
[00:18] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: 32bit will be an easier life
[00:18] <spikebike> coz_: ya, exactly
[00:18] <dark-matter> Caly: ya, and they don't have as many udpates
[00:18] <spikebike> I bind it to <super z>
[00:18] <pfifo> if I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH to /home/pfifo/lib and install a few libs there... In what order will programs look for libs?
[00:19] <coz_> spikebike,  I have not seen any issue  but to be honest,, I am not on unity right now,,,        maverick at the moment
[00:19] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, It already is options snd-hda-intel model=auto
[00:19] <hypodermia> thomashc: it looks like there's a lithuanian keyboard variant for US keyboards
[00:19] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Why? :0
[00:19] <BKTech86> hi, windows wiped out my grub and I can't restore it using the guides online, can anyone help please? thanks
[00:19] <coz_> spikebike,  if you wait about 2 minutes and can restart into unity
[00:19] <kwtm> MohammadAG: You really DO live on the edge, don't you?  I can see how you get seamless upgrades.  I do the opposite.  Burn an install DVD (never upgraded) and carve out a new partition from the old.
[00:19] <Caly> dark-matter: yeah, well, as long as i get a desktop that does not look like i'm on a samrtphone instead of a computer, i'm good
[00:19] <spikebike> coz_: cool, yeah I'm curious, I've opened a ticket if you want to sign on (if you see it)
[00:19] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, that was the fix for a MSI AE2020, I put a bugfix about it...
[00:19] <Glacia> i got whiched to ubuntu classic how do i go back to unity?
[00:19] <thomashc> hypodermia: yes, but it doesn't quite match up with english layouts, I was looking for a way using the international altgr keyboard layout
[00:19] <christhecoolboy> It fixed my Speakers when I was originally on 10.10
[00:20] <christhecoolboy> my Mic already worked...
[00:20] <pfifo> also, is there an ubuntu official way to compile 32 bit binaries with gcc while using the 64bit os?
[00:20] <robertzaccour> can the unity taskbar be switched to the bottom yet?
[00:20] <dark-matter> Caly: LMAO, you are making me not want to fix my Ubuntu
[00:20] <hypodermia> thomashc: i dunno then
[00:20] <spikebike> pfifo: isn't it just gcc -m32?
[00:20] <thomashc> hypodermia: thanks anyways :)
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: try model=laptop  or   model=generic
[00:20] <BKTech86> can anyone help me restore grub please? thanks
[00:20] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: boot to livecd and reinstate the bootloader
[00:21] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: I am booted, how do i do that?
[00:21] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Why is 32-bit better?
[00:21] <Glacia> i got switched to ubuntu classic how do i go back to unity?
[00:21] <MohammadAG> kwtm, well it's easier this way, and since I have more than two PCs to upgrade, I just cp /var/cache/apt/archives/*.deb between PCs and run apt-get
[00:21] <pfifo> spikebike, im not sure, ive always has a 32 and 64 bit install and wounld boot to native for compiling stuff
[00:21] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, Can I ask you something first?! Isnt hda for your soundcard?
[00:21] <christhecoolboy> My soundcard works fine...
[00:21] <Caly> dark-matter: i hae no regrets about that
[00:21] <Caly> ^^
[00:21] <ubuntu_> im on a live disc i used my usb stick to try 11.04.   i thought it was going to have a new layout and stuff on side? or am i miising something?
[00:21] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[00:21] <dark-matter> LOL
[00:21] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: I tried that, it doesn't work
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: yes but the mic is PART of the soundcard
[00:22] <dark-matter> Caly: OMG It does look like a smart phone
[00:22] <dark-matter> WTF
[00:22] <MohammadAG> ubuntu_, I think the live cd uses the classic desktop
[00:22] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, its not part of the soundcard...
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6fpIe-QnVE
[00:22] <benh> haha natty fail
[00:22] <MohammadAG> probably because unity needs 3D acceleration
[00:22] <spikebike> pfifo: that works as well
[00:22] <cmb151> hello, I have ubuntu 11.04, and my sound card is not detected. I have a VT1708/A soundcard which is not support by alsa. How can I get my sound working?
[00:22] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: so its a seperate device?
[00:22] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I got the webcam and the mic next to it, built in to the PC...
[00:22] <benh> "after your package information was updated, the essential package "ubuntu-minimal" can not be found anymore"
[00:22] <robertzaccour> can the unity taskbar be switched to the bottom yet?
[00:23] <pfifo> spikebike, but cause im trying out natty64 i have both ubuntu and gentoo using 64bit
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: ok then check in sound options and switch the mic device to the one on the webcam
[00:23] <coz_> spikebike,  ok on Unity,, walk me through what you are doing
[00:23] <MohammadAG> robertzaccour, no, afaik
[00:23] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I dont have the option any more...
[00:23] <dark-matter> Folks were not in Gnome any longer
[00:23] <ubuntu_> MohammadAG,  thank you,... so when i install then itll change. thanks
[00:23] <spikebike> coz_: open terminal, vert maximize, hit return
[00:23] <spikebike> (till it scrolls)
[00:23] <MohammadAG> ubuntu_, yep, and you'll have the option to change before login
[00:23] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: then run: lsusb     search for the 8 character hex ID and you may find guides
[00:24] <Caly> dark-matter: and that would be why Ubuntu came to suck balls imo
[00:24] <coz_> spikebike,  thats it?  no strange happenings with that here
[00:24] <cmb151> anybody?
[00:24] <spikebike> it's scrolling?
[00:24] <coz_> spikebike,  no
[00:24] <coz_> let me do a couple commands hold on
[00:24] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, when I entered lsub in to terminal, it just froze
[00:25] <christhecoolboy> *lsusb
[00:25] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: yikes
[00:25] <ubuntu_> MohammadAG,  is that option a  one time thing, or will i haave a choice every login?
[00:25] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, do you think teamviewer might help you solve this problem faster? I do have the option of doing it if you want, :)
[00:25] <Caly> dark-matter: there... burning Debian 6
[00:25] <dark-matter> nice
[00:26] <cmb151> Is there a sound guru in the house? :)
[00:26] <MohammadAG> ubuntu_, every login, same as if you had kde and gnome
[00:26] <toto654> so how's ur opinions on unity
[00:26] <coz_> spikebike,  darn did dist-upgrade   :) let these several packages install and I will try again in about,,,whoa   19 minutes?  darn those servers must really be bogged down ;p;
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: not a good idea to invite strangers to your system
[00:26] <coz_> spikebike,  let me try while it's updating
[00:26] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: if lsusb just hangs then that may be part of the issue
[00:26] <spikebike> coz_: I've got an idle mirror ;-)
[00:26] <MohammadAG> if you have automatic login, you logout and pick what you want
[00:26] <coz_> spikebike,  nope not scrolling thiny going on
[00:26] <teage> Ok nmap says port 15 open service netstat. why would chkrootkit report INFECTED on port 15?
[00:26] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I need this solved within two hours, *sad face*
[00:26] <AaeRohn> rockj: still here?
[00:26] <naoko> hey guys
[00:27] <coz_> spikebike,  let me install kazam or gtkrecord my desktop to show , maybe i am doing it wrong hold onon
[00:27] <ubuntu_> MohammadAG,  sweet. thanks.
[00:27] <naoko> I installed xChat, and I noticed once it's minimized, you can't access it anylonger from any window
[00:28] <coz_> naoko,  it should be in the launcher
[00:28] <Glacia> no one?
[00:28] <russjr08> naoko, have you tried Alt+Tab? It happens to me sometimes and I can access it from there
[00:28] <truepurple> Anyone know which ATI drivers are the best to use?
[00:28] <naoko> coz_: clicking that just opens up a new process
[00:28] <coz_> naoko,   are you middle clicking it?
[00:29] <naoko> coz_: nevermind, russjr08's thing works
[00:29] <rgr> naoko: its logged as a bug already. google xchat minimised.
[00:29] <coz_> naoko,  oh ok
[00:29] <naoko> rgr: Oh, alright.
[00:29] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/
[00:29] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: depends on needs and taste
[00:29] <rgr> http://fossplanet.com/f10/[bug-772524]-re-when-minimising-xchat-xchat-gnome-unity-icondisappears-143124/
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: there is no single best solution for anything
[00:30] <cmb151> are there any alternatives to alsa if it does not have a driver for my soundcard?
[00:30] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Ok, so which solutions are good for what kind of things?
[00:30] <rgr> truepurple: explain your needs. else read the wiki.
[00:30] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Or put another way, what are the pros and cons of the different driver options?
[00:30] <tase> im trying to install ubuntu on this old laptop, but it's stuck on the part with the 5 dots under the ubuntu title, 10.10 i368 from usb
[00:30] <naoko> There we go, thank you guys.
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: if you need full 3D goodness for games and the like then use the proprietary, if you just need basic desktop based stuff then the open drivers are fine
[00:31] <truepurple> rgr: What wiki?
[00:31] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, Just ran Cheese, Webcam works fine... Should I run Device Manager?!
[00:31] <spikebike> hey coz_ can you 6MB video I recorded with my android phone?
[00:31] <coz_> spikebike,  making video
[00:31] <spikebike> coz_: can you view rather
[00:31] <steve1> I just upgraded to 11.04 and the new keyboard shortcuts have broken my existing keyboard shortcuts ... is there a way to modify the keyboard shortcuts in 11.04?
[00:31] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: the proprietary is the one you download off the ATI website?
[00:31] <coz_> spikebike,  can you upload it to speedyshare?
[00:31] <dios_mio> I use two keyboard layouts... in preferences I unchecked "new windows use active windows's layout" but it is still the rule...
[00:31] <KNUBBIG> steve1: not all, but some afaik. Try compizconfig-settings-manager
[00:31] <ubd> HEllo, i want to install ubuntu with openbox, but i have to use specific drivers (geode) for xorg. how do i do that?
[00:31] <dijonyummy> i'll keep classic gnome, but should i upgrade to 11.04 or do the fresh install. are there bugs with upgrading from 10.10?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: you can use the additional drivers app
[00:32] <rgr> what wiki? google ubuntu video drivers. There are umpteen sources. Asking for an entire descritpion in #irc is a little optimistic.
[00:32] <ActionParsnip> ubd: you can use xorg.conf to set the driver
[00:32] <rgr> depends on card type for a start
[00:32] <KNUBBIG> !ccsm | steve1
[00:32] <cmb151> Will someone please help me hear ubuntu? My soundcard is not working.
[00:33] <rgr> dijonyummy: have you looked at the Ubuntu supprot forums? There are oodles of issues.
[00:33] <ubd> ActionParsnip: can you tell me the steps i should follow? like 1- install base, 2- install driver 3- install xorg 4- edit xorg conf etc?
[00:33] <steve1> KNUBBIG: is that the only place?  I found those, but they're still not all of them ... like I had used Win+L to lockscreen ... now it does nothing.  actually, now that I think about it, it's all my Win+? shortcuts that are borked.
[00:33] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: if you run:  alsamixer    is the mic muted?
[00:33] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: But those aren't as up to date as what I would get off ATIs website, right?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> ubd: I'd say install ubuntu and openbox then set the xorg.conf and restart X and it will be used
[00:34] <KNUBBIG> steve1: I'm not sure but I think these are all you can modify. There was a user today asking something similar, but I don't remember if he found a solution, maybe you can look through the channel logs
[00:34] <cmb151> The sound issue is all over the forums, bu t I have not been able to solve it by using any of the threads there
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: not sure, I avoid Ati like the plague
[00:34] <ubd> ok thanks!
[00:34] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, above mic it has MM
[00:34] <ubuntu_> MohammadAG,  do ya know  if th e Kubuntu is the same as well? with the  unity option?
[00:34] <rgr> ditto here. NVidia all the way for me.
[00:34] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: then use cursors and M to navigate and unmute it
[00:35] <cmb151> Way back in ubuntu 9 my sound worked fine
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: use Q or ESC to close alsamixer
[00:35] <lost_cause> Anybody have any success customizing unity in 11.04? I would like  to move task bar to bottom. Ideas? Help please.
[00:35] <rgr> cmb151:  what card do you have?
[00:35] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, whats the button to Unmute, I remember there being a button...
[00:35] <pooltable> help with 11.4 show desk top and i do not see my ext had drive in place how do i fix it ?
[00:35] <aguitel> lost_cause, install ccsm
[00:35] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: M, like I said
[00:35] <cmb151> VIA VT1708/A it is not supported by alsa
[00:35] <freeman_> i tried adding a .sh script to my unity dock and it wont add. any ideas?
[00:35] <MohammadAG> ubuntu_, most probably yeah
[00:35] <lost_cause> ccsm. Thank you.
[00:35] <abr> switched to #xubuntu
[00:35] <cmb151> what other thing can I use?
[00:35] <rgr> get a cheap alternative much easier if you can.
[00:36] <MohammadAG> not sure about KDE apps in Unity though
[00:36] <cmb151> 80:01.0 Audio device: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT1708/A [Azalia HDAC] (VIA High Definition Audio Controller) (rev 10)
[00:36] <rgr> if alsa is borked with your card you are entering support hell IMO. Get something that works.
[00:36] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I only hear a hissing static noise when I do...
[00:36] <ubuntu_> MohammadAG,  thanks  once again, the usb installer wasnt too bad think ill  check it out on that.
[00:36] <ubuntu_> thanks again
[00:36] <cmb151> it used to work back with ubuntu 9
[00:36] <mis3ry> #help
[00:36] <cmb151> still works with windows
[00:37] <MohammadAG> ubuntu_, you're welcome :)
[00:37] <freeman_> why cant i add a .sh file to my dock?
[00:37] <cmb151> rgr: so you are saying no fix then, I must buy another card, or downgrade to 9?
[00:37] <dios_mio> I am about to use Gnome 3 PPA...
[00:37] <KNUBBIG> dios_mio: it will break Unity, just fyi
[00:37] <pooltable>  i do not see my ext hard drive in place how do i fix it ?
[00:38] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: does the mic work in sound recorder though?
[00:38] <dios_mio> KNUBBIG, it has an alternative shell to unity, right?
[00:38] <KNUBBIG> dios_mio: yes, if it works fine for you than it's no problem that it breaks unity :)
[00:38] <tase> im trying to boot ubuntu live cd on this old laptop, but it's stuck on the part with the 5 dots under the ubuntu title, 10.10 i386 from usb, anyone know what I could do?
[00:38] <teage> How would you kill a process running on a certain port
[00:38] <Nisstyre> Can anybody please tell me what Unity is using only primary attributes?
[00:39] <dios_mio> KNUBBIG, I hated unity anyway.. I am using the classic desktop. heh
[00:39] <Rockj> AaeRohn: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601063/
[00:39] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, Can I give my own opinion?
[00:39] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: sure
[00:39] <KNUBBIG> dios_mio: than it may be fine for yoU :)
[00:39] <dios_mio> :D
[00:39] <testunz> unity seems to be a crash
[00:39] <Rockj> AaeRohn: I'm still around, had a visit by some old friend at the door at 1.30am :O
[00:40] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip: I think that it is not aslamixer that is the problem, I think the mic needs to be fixed or "found"
[00:40] <coreire> I'm having trouble getting anything but Ubuntu to boot with grub2 that came with ubuntu 11.04. I've just installed grub legacy. Can anyone tell me the correct lines to add to menu.lst to get my windows 7 partition to boot? It's on /dev/sda1
[00:40] <JoseeAntonioR> Hello! Does anyone knows the Canonical Lexington office phone number?
[00:40] <KNUBBIG> I'd actually like to try the new gnome shell but I won't risk breaking Unity :( Anybody knows if building gnome-shell from source also breaks Unity?
[00:41] <BiosElement> KNUBBIG: I'd say building it from source would be worse. If you install GnomeShell via debs, you can at least then remove it and install unity again.
[00:41] <IsmAvatar> I'm not sure if this is the Global Menu's or Firefox's fault, but when I middle-click a bookmark, it opens in the current tab, whereas in Ubuntu 10.10, it opened in a new tab. What's up?
[00:41] <BiosElement> IsmAvatar: Check Firefox settings, I suspect that's a firefox thing.
[00:41] <KNUBBIG> BiosElement: Hm, okay. So I'll have to use a VM as soon as I get back to my desktop
[00:41] <Senix> How do I disable and enable desktop effects in Ubuntu 11.04????
[00:41] <JoseeAntonioR> Does anyone knows where can I call Canonical USA?
[00:41] <rgr> why remove it at all?
[00:42] <nsahoo> I was trying a cli version upgrade but it failed with a bunch of broken packages. Is there a way to fix it?
[00:42] <KNUBBIG> coreire: grub2 didn't come with 11.04, actually, I'd say using legacy is not good at all
[00:42] <rgr> nsahoo: an upgrade of what to what?
[00:42] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip:
[00:42] <aeon-ltd> Senix: you mean compiz? alt-f2 'metacity --replace' will kill compiz and replace with metacity as the window manager
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> Senix: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace     to disable and:  compiz --replace     to eable
[00:43] <Kibo> Good night guys. Maybe someone could help me? I might have rebooted my system before the upgrade to 11.04 was over (the login screen was showing "reboot needed" or something to that effect). Now the box won't boot, and the kernel/dist is not showing on GRUB screen. Can I salvage it with a 10.10 live (USB)?
[00:43] <coolkid25> Ok noe I have a rar file with a whole bunch of fikes in it?
[00:43]  * Senix facepalms I want to TURN off all desktop effects
[00:43] <nsahoo> rgr: to 11.04
[00:43] <coolkid25> Do i extract it ActionParsnip ?
[00:43] <BiosElement> nsahoo: sudo apt-get install --fix-broken or something along those lines should help.
[00:43] <coreire> KNUBBIG: I'm just trying it as a last resort. Every time i select windows the system just reboots back to grub
[00:43] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, you might be right about it being part of the soundcard, but how did I work before?!
[00:43] <Kevin147> Kibo: So, is it at the place where it shows grub> ?
[00:43] <AaeRohn> rockj: added lines, restart?
[00:43] <KNUBBIG> coreire: I had that running fine some time again but I can't remember the exact line for the menu.lst, sorry. Maybe google will help you there :)
[00:44] <deshymers> updated to 11.04 and unity isnt on by default, when I run unity --rest in ttyl1 and go back to ttyl7 I see unity over top of the old 10.10 desktop any suggestions?
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: not sure man
[00:44] <Kibo> When I reboot, the GRUB shows, but I only have 10.10's listed
[00:44] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: no, just md5 test it and burn it slowly to a cd
[00:44] <kpoman> hey all
[00:44] <KNUBBIG> !grub1 | coreire
[00:44] <KNUBBIG> maybe
[00:44] <coreire> I've formatted, partitioned, and reinstalled the os's multiple times, in different orders, and it's just driving me nuts at this stage lol
[00:44] <kpoman> 11.04 is buggy for you too guys ? for me it wont restart/stop. and ATI radeon stopped working
[00:44] <Rehan> Kibo: are you trying to hide the grub screen?
[00:45] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: but its a winrar file?
[00:45] <rgr> coreire: whats OSen? And why?
[00:45] <KNUBBIG> kpoman: is it just logging you out instead of rebooting/shutting down?
[00:45] <rgr> s/whats/what
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: it'snot, your dumb OS makes it look like one because winrar can handle the file, that's all
[00:45] <BKTech86> hi, i'm trying to restore grub and i believe i have a separate boot partition from my linux partition, can anybody help me? the guides don't seem to work
[00:45] <kpoman> KNUBBIG: when I try to restart / stop, it just logs out and hangs
[00:45] <KNUBBIG> kpoman: okay same for me :@, didn't find a solution yet
[00:45] <coreire> KNUBBIG: Tried that already, but thanks
[00:45] <kpoman> KNUBBIG: even magic sysrq keys fail
[00:45] <Kibo> Rehan: No. The GRUB screen shows, I select the last kernel (still 10.10) and the boot stops, complaining of a disk not mounted....
[00:45] <Kevin147> KNUBBIG: same for me atm
[00:45] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Sorry. XD can i use a dvd to burn it
[00:45] <coolkid25> ?
[00:46] <christhecoolboy> in device manager, under HDA NVidia Sound Card, there is... two things labled "ASLA Capture", In the info about them, one is: /dev/snd/pcmC0D0c and the other is: /dev/snd/pcmC0D2c and they are both: ALC888 Analog
[00:46] <christhecoolboy> ^ ActionParsnip ^
[00:46] <rgr> wow, the same old issue from when I first tried Ubuntu 5 years ago. LOL. What a crock.
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: did you download the DVD ISO?
[00:46] <KNUBBIG> cool we're not alone :)
[00:46] <coreire> rgr: Windows 7, Ubuntu 11.04, Mandriva 2010.2.
[00:46] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: i think i downloaded the cd iso
[00:46] <coolkid25> where is the dvd one?
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: then no, you will need a CD media or the DVD ISO
[00:46] <rgr> install windows first. then the Linuxes. The run sudo update-grub for it to find win 7.
[00:46] <AaeRohn> Rockj: added lines, saved, and still nothing
[00:47] <Rockj> AaeRohn: you have to reboot now ;-)
[00:47] <rgr> well, that worked for me with debian and win 7.
[00:47] <coreire> rgr: did that. it breaks windows and mandriva
[00:47] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Where can I get the DVD iso?
[00:47] <Rockj> AaeRohn: that command requires you to reboot your computer to take action.
[00:47] <Kibo> Kevin147: Sorry, no. The actual boot screen (to select the kernel version)
[00:47] <coolkid25> I don't see it as an option.
[00:47] <rgr> what does "break" mean in this context?
[00:47] <rgr> you sure you're not overwriting partitions?
[00:48] <coreire> rgr: System reboot instantly on choosing windows. mandriva complains that the root partition is not set correctly
[00:48] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/release/ has the dvd
[00:48] <IsmAvatar> BiosElement: as I said, it happened in 11.04 and not 10.10, despite being ff4 in both versions. It sounds like more of an Ubuntu/Unity/Global Menu issue
[00:48] <coolkid25> thanks ActionParsnip :D
[00:48] <Kevin147> Kibo: Ahh okay, I see what you mean now.
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: instead of asking basic questions, try searching a little
[00:49] <rgr> well, you're optimisitc using a typically buggy pos release like 11.04 with multi boot imo. It might and probably does screw up your partitions on install ;)
[00:49] <kpoman> what I dont understand is why, if I had the same kernel **before** the upgrade, my ATI stopped working (DRI disabled)
[00:49] <Nesto> Hey guys, I was wonder if I could get some help real quick.... I have a Win7 desktop, and a ubuntu desktop (11.04) that I want to use as a printer server, but right now I'm trying to remote into the ubuntu desktop but I can't. I can remote into my windows from the ubuntu desktop but not the other way around. I have tried quite a few tuts i found online but to no avail...
[00:49] <Kibo> Kevin147: Sorry for the poor explaining. :-)
[00:50] <kpoman> if someone know how to troubleshot / solve this ? X is unusable in vesa mode (1680x1050)
[00:50] <ohsix> rgr: #ubuntu-offtopic for opinions
[00:50] <rgr> Nesto: what have you tried? Have you run firestarter?
[00:50] <coreire> rgr: I'm starting to agree. I might just go back to 10.10
[00:50] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What do you have against ATI?
[00:50] <ohsix> rgr: also unsubstantiated assertions don't help anyone
[00:50] <rgr> coreire: Ubuntu releases are a farce.
[00:50] <Nesto> rgr, firestarter?
[00:50] <KNUBBIG> !downgrade
[00:50] <KNUBBIG> :p
[00:50] <rgr> how did you try to connect?
[00:50] <kpoman> why with same kernel between 10.10 and 11.04 does ATI fail now to load DRM ?
[00:50] <ohsix> rgr: it sounds like you don't really want to be here to help people
[00:50] <j_anon1> How do I access an external device in Narwhal?
[00:50] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: they didn't support linux for a long time, nvidia have beeen doing it for ages and do it well, so I use them
[00:50] <Nesto> rgr, I tried out remote desktop, vnc, and thats about it
[00:50] <kpoman> if someone know anything here ?
[00:50] <coolkid25> ActionParsnip: Sorry, I have one more question though, does the DVD ISO support DVD+Rs?
[00:51] <belinrahs> For the record: If you really hate Unity, just choose Ubuntu Classic when you login and everything back to normal. Thank you.
[00:51] <rgr> try ssh directly
[00:51] <j_anon1> External drive, i mean.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: also seen too many issues with them and seen few with nvidia
[00:51] <rgr> enable port 22 of course.
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> coolkid25: yes
[00:51] <Kibo> Kevin147: Do you know if I CHROOT to the partition and do a dist-upgrade would work?
[00:51] <rgr> as for "firestarter" - google it
[00:51] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Well I've heard of issues with both, and asked about nvdia and ATI regarding linux here before, and was told ATI was good for linux
[00:51] <ohsix> rgr: you need to enable remote access
[00:51] <ohsix> rgr: ubuntu uses ufw/
[00:52] <ohsix> Nesto: enable remote access first
[00:52] <rgr> truepurple: who told you that? The same bull artist who told people that xorg.conf is defunct ?
[00:52] <steve1> KNUBBIG: no luck so far remapping the fields, though I did found in CCSM that I could create custom "commands" that map to CLI commands.  I suppose that'll do.
[00:52] <kpoman> why with same kernel between 10.10 and 11.04 does ATI fail now to load DRM ? Help !
[00:52] <ohsix> Nesto: then you would use a vnc client
[00:52] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: Main reason I went radeon is that it is more efficient for your performance energy wize then radeon
[00:52] <rgr> kpoman: stop reteating
[00:52] <rgr> rpeating
[00:52] <Nesto> ohsix,  I did enable remote access
[00:52] <KNUBBIG> steve1: oh cool, thanks
[00:52] <Kevin147> Kibo: hmm, I'm not sure... I never had that problem, so yeah :/ today, I had a different problem where grub2 wouldn't recognize my kernel :/
[00:52] <kpoman> rgr: I slightly changed the sentece
[00:52] <ohsix> Nesto: what client did you use?
[00:52] <rgr> truepurple: who told you that? LOL!
[00:52] <AaeRohn> Rockj: eet works now :D
[00:52] <truepurple> rgr: I have no idea, I ask for advice, and am given it, I don't usually know the credentials of the people who give out advice
[00:52] <ActionParsnip> truepurple: its a case of !wfm. I back nvidia so I buy their stuff
[00:53] <ohsix> rgr: save your opinions
[00:53] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, do you know how I know that the mic is not built in to the Speakers/Soundcard?
[00:53] <Nesto> ohsix, I used remote desktop buit into windows and vnc viewer
[00:53] <BKTech86> ActionParsnip: should grub be installed in the boot folder or in / ?
[00:53] <ohsix> rgr: if you want to debate it, #ubuntu-desktop
[00:53] <Kibo> Kevin147: Well, I think the worse it could do is finish destroying the install... Not too different of the current situation... :-)
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: i'm no good with grub dude
[00:53] <truepurple> rgr: Who told me what? That radeon is more efficient? I learned it myself from looking at many many reviews
[00:53] <ohsix> Nesto: right, but what vnc viewer; mstsc wouldn't be expected to work
[00:53] <rgr> truepurple: so use google and check for yourself. Never accept blindly in somewhere like a Linux channel. There are too many clueless zealots with a political eganda. Seriously.
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> BKTech86: I single boot linux so have had nothing to do with it except adding boot options
[00:53] <ohsix> !ot | rgr
[00:53] <rgr> truepurple: is it a laptop?
[00:53] <Kevin147> Kibo: Alright lol
[00:53] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: how?
[00:53] <truepurple> rgr I did use SE, but it didn't come up with anything definitive
[00:54] <BKTech86> is anyone here an expert with grub?
[00:54] <Nesto> ohsix: i don't know, I just downloaded something from their website
[00:54] <rgr> who triggered that bot? This IS Ubuntu support.
[00:54] <truepurple> rgr: No, a desktop I put together myself
[00:54] <Kibo> Kevin147: I'll keep you posted... ;-)
[00:54] <ohsix> Nesto: from realvnc or something?
[00:54] <Kevin147> Alrightiz :P
[00:54] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip: The Specifications for the computer say "Webcam - 1 x 1.3MP webcam with microphone"
[00:54] <stravant> After updating to 11.04 all of the text for application file menus at the top of the screen, as well as the date/time indicator is the exact same color as the background, so I can't see it, does anyone have this problem or know how to fix it?
[00:54] <rgr> Well, if you're such a noob then I suggest nvidia over ati. but good luck anyway.
[00:54] <Nesto> ohsix: Yes, from realvnc
[00:54] <ohsix> Nesto: did you set a password or to ask you when someone connects in the remote access options?
[00:54] <tensorpudding> i just noticed that my unity file lens says my home directory is devoid of files, which is quite incorrect
[00:54] <ohsix> !ot | rgr
[00:54] <Nesto> ohsix: i set a password, but not to ask when someone connects
[00:55] <KNUBBIG> stravant: may be a problem with your theme, had that too
[00:55] <j_anon1> How do I access a usb drive in Narwhal?
[00:55] <stravant> It's one of the standard themes
[00:55] <ohsix> Nesto: hm, try it without a password, but to ask
[00:55] <truepurple> rsr: There are pleny of clueless websites and blind leads and dead search ends online too, but I got to go somewhere for information
[00:55] <stravant> Where do I go to change the theme again, I can't fin it now
[00:55] <rgr> truepurple: of course.
[00:55] <Rockj> AaeRohn: awesome :-)
[00:55] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: is the webcam inbuilt to the system?
[00:55] <ohsix> Nesto: i don't know what vnc protocol stuff the builtin vnc server uses, i've just used vino and it worked
[00:55] <AaeRohn> ROckj: thank you man, have a good one
[00:55] <rgr> but earlier you seemed unaware that there is a wiki dedicated to video issues. Try it.
[00:56] <rgr> a lot is trial and error and hard work.
[00:56] <ohsix> rgr: url to said wiki?
[00:56] <ActionParsnip> j_anon1: plug it in and it willmount, assuming it was safetly removed last time it was unplugged
[00:56] <ohsix> rgr: trial and error is garbage
[00:56] <Rockj> AaeRohn: conclution, drivers were installed but dmesg only registered it as a standard usb storage device, so we had to poke it to switch usb mode or something. That we can do by udev which is a system of rules for setting up devices that your operating system uses to speak with the devices.
[00:56] <rgr> j_anon1: plug it on and browse...
[00:56] <Rockj> "dmesg shows us it was only registerd as a ..."
[00:56] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip: Yes... look at: http://www.avadirect.com/product_print.asp?info=1&PRID=14843 [Top Picture, Tag 4 & 5...
[00:56] <Nesto> ohsix: how do you use vino
[00:56] <Kevin147> stravant: You can change it by searching in Unity, "Appearance"
[00:56] <truepurple> ActionParsnip: What is "!wfm"?
[00:57] <tjiggi_fo> rgr, wiki link?
[00:57] <ohsix> rgr: namely because nobody knows what "error" is, so when they find something that works they've found a nonsolution or work around
[00:57] <rgr> I already gave the google string. Its really not hard.
[00:57] <hypodermia> i have no audible system bell in natty. any ideas, anyone?
[00:57] <Daekdroom> What is the command that displays all devices that are mounted, where they are mounted and where the devices are in the filesystem?
[00:57] <j_anon1> ActionParsnip, it is plugged in, but then what? There's no "Places" in the taskbar and "files and folders" just includes Downloads, Music, etc.
[00:57] <ohsix> Nesto: it's the vnc client that comes with ubuntu, i just start it from applications -> internet
[00:57] <hypodermia> Daekdroom: mount
[00:57] <j_anon1> and it's not displayed on the desktop
[00:57] <ohsix> !google | rgr
[00:57] <g0t> Results for | rgr on Google:
[00:57] <g0t> --
[00:57] <Daekdroom> hypodermia, thank you
[00:57] <ActionParsnip> j_anon1: when you last used it successfully, how did you remove it from the system?
[00:58] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: you'll most likely find that its part of the soundcard, not the webcam
[00:58] <ohsix> rgr: i'll ask again if you aren't going to help people to please not speak at all; there are a lot of people looking for help
[00:58] <j_anon1> I didn't last use it on that computer. This is the first time I have plugged it in.
[00:58] <Nesto> ohsix, I'm trying to remote from windows 7 to ubuntu
[00:58] <KNUBBIG> Nesto: try putty
[00:59] <j_anon1> what's SUPPOSED to happen in narwhal?
[00:59] <ohsix> Nesto: yes i know, and you said realvnc doesn't work; i said you could try to set it to "ask" instead of taking a password to see if it asks, you haven't done that yet
[00:59] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip: but when it says "Webcam with Microphone" doesnt that mean they are together? They are centimeters apart...
[00:59] <ZenGuy311>  Nesto vnc or teamviewer
[00:59] <christhecoolboy> *Imply
[00:59] <christhecoolboy> not mean xD
[00:59] <Kevin147> ohsix: teamviewer
[00:59] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: you'll nee dto investigate, having 2 mics on a system like that would be really silly
[00:59] <ohsix> Kevin147: not helping
[00:59] <ohsix> Kevin147: if something doesn't work that is supposed to work, you don't just try something else
[01:00] <Nesto> I don't want to use teamviewer... I want to access my computer over my network, not my internet
[01:00] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, there is a mic port at the back, for cabled mics and a pic with the webcam...
[01:00] <christhecoolboy> *mic
[01:00] <Nesto> ohsix: I did do that... but still nothing....  :/
[01:00] <ohsix> Nesto: let me know if it asks you to let someone connect if you connect without a password assigned
[01:00] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: not sure then, sounds like a mess. Got a wired mic to plug into the micport ust for the now?
[01:00] <ZenGuy311> Nesto: have you can use teamviewer on local lan only
[01:00] <ohsix> ZenGuy311: see what i said to Kevin147
[01:01] <Kevin147> ..
[01:01] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, It wont let me select any options on Input on the sound thing, so no, ;'(
[01:01] <BKTech86> hi, my computer won't boot windows or ubuntu, can someone help me ?
[01:01] <whodevil> what happened to the system tray and gnome pannel widgets in 10.4?
[01:01] <Kevin147> ohsix: I was just suggesting something, no biggie
[01:01] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: then I've no more solutions. My sound always just works because I shop smart
[01:01] <Nesto> hmmm.... really ZenGuy311? I shall try that out instead
[01:01] <j_anon1> Should Narwhal be showing my external drive on the desktop and when i click Files and Folders?
[01:01] <ohsix> Kevin147: right, but i'm trying to figure out why the one thing isn't working; suggestions appreciated but distracting people is not
[01:01] <aj00200> It appears that Unity just has some problems with a dual-screen setup
[01:01] <ohsix> aaaouhrouarh sigh
[01:01] <KNUBBIG> !error | BKTech86
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: others may be able to advise, but you said there was a hole to plug in a mic, find an external mic and use that
[01:02] <j_anon1> Considering it is recognized in the GNOME version
[01:02] <KNUBBIG> aj00200: dual-screen works fine for me
[01:02] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I shopped the best I could, I needed  a PC that had stereo mix so I could record PC sound as well... But thanks for your help...
[01:02] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: no worries man
[01:02] <aj00200> KNUBBIG: it may have been that I have my screen setup as being above my laptop screen
[01:02] <ohsix> Nesto: good luck, you won't get any support for that, maybe Kevin147 and ZenGuy311 will help you, but it's not software ubuntu distributes so they won't be doing it here
[01:03] <russjr08> Does anyone know if WUBI is working with 11.04 yet?
[01:03] <Nesto> ah ok ohsix, well I can probably figure the team viewer part myself... anyways thanks ohsix
[01:03] <KNUBBIG> aj00200: that may be true, mine at home is standard with additional display on the right. Sorry, can't say anything about additional one placed above.
[01:03] <BKTech86> i had windows 7 and ubuntu side by side for a long time, windows 7 requested a repair operation and I let it do so, it then made my hard drive unbootable at all (i assume grub is gone) using guide to restore grub has not worked, please help thanks
[01:03] <ffksadfdl> Can anyone tell me why my indicators are gone?
[01:03] <ohsix> Nesto: hopefully the problem you're having isn't a genuine bug, as it won't be found and won't be reported now :[
[01:04] <aj00200> KNUBBIG: ok. Maybe I'll try putting it to the right. I could get used to it after a while
[01:04] <KNUBBIG> !grub | BKTech86
[01:04] <Kibo> Kevin147: Just an update... Tried the apt-get dist-upgrade, the machine complained and asked for a "dpkg --configure -a". It's still running, I think it's finishing the upgrade... Still hopeful... ;-)
[01:04] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: using guides to restore grub has not worked
[01:04] <toto654> windows 7 has no problem coexisting with ubuntu
[01:04] <kpoman> ok... I am now in ubuntu ! do someone know what could be wrong with radeon and X ? Why is it now failing to load with DRI ?
[01:04] <Kevin147> Kibo: yeah it must be, so when that finishes it should work :)
[01:04] <Nesto> ohsix, i think that it's something with my network
[01:04] <Kibo> Kevin147: I hope so!! lol
[01:05] <Kevin147> Kibo: Good luck dude! :P
[01:05] <kpoman> I do have errors on Xorg.0.log like "[    34.288] (EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed because of a version mismatch." and some segfaults on fglrx tools
[01:05] <stravant> I have a dual screen setup and always use chrome on the left screen, with the unity desktop there's an extra panel at the top of the left screen wasting vertical space, which chrome never uses. It there likely no solution to this?
[01:05] <Kibo> Kevin147: Thanks a bunch, man! ;)
[01:05] <ohsix> Nesto: could be, easy enough to check; try and connect to port 5900 on the machine with vnc, though realvnc should have told you if it failed to connect
[01:05] <Kevin147> Kibo: np
[01:06] <ohsix> Nesto: if it's just your lan i think it's something else; different authentication options and stuff are supported and if theres no common set between the viewer and the server it won't let you authenticate and stuff
[01:06] <Nesto> ohsix, yea vnc says error connecting
[01:06] <RKyle> How would I permanently disable the synatpics touchpad on my laptop?
[01:06] <ohsix> Nesto: okie dokie
[01:06] <awakening> I have a question which might have a simple answer, can someone point me in the right direction for a dvd player app for ubuntu?
[01:07] <Nesto> ohsix, also, for some reason my laptop get's really really slow download speeds
[01:07] <ohsix> Nesto: can you post the output of sudo iptables -L -v as ran from a terminal to a pastebin?
[01:07] <KNUBBIG> !dvd | awakening
[01:07] <Nesto> it seems   to be an asus/ubuntu problem
[01:07] <ohsix> Nesto: over wifi, and with an ath9k atheros device?
[01:07] <Nesto> ohsix, let me get on my laptop real quick
[01:07] <awakening> KNUBBIG, "!dvd" is the name of the app?
[01:08] <ohsix> Nesto: i don't have a solution, but if it is an ath9k device i can say you're not the only one ;]
[01:08] <KNUBBIG> awakening: no, I think you'd need vlc and libdvdcss2
[01:08] <hypodermia> lemme ask this. does anybody else running natty under unity have an audible system bell?
[01:08] <Nesto> ohsix, I think so... cuz a quite a few Asus people seem to be having the same problem
[01:08] <Logan_> awakening: Read the message that ubottu wrote.
[01:08] <KNUBBIG> awakening: see the tutorial, that should help :)
[01:09] <awakening> okay thanks
[01:09] <awakening> I appreciate it
[01:10]  * crlcan81 waits on 11.04 to finish installing.
[01:10]  * KNUBBIG waited 5 hours for that
[01:11] <crlcan81> I slept through most of the downloading.
[01:11] <jm0> can anyone help me i have royally messed up my system
[01:11] <ohsix> it's like christmas!
[01:11] <crlcan81> three or so hours.
[01:11] <KNUBBIG> jm0: please tell us what exactly did you do?
[01:11] <crlcan81> the installing only took like.. is taking, maybe two hours or so, so ya, about five hours total.
[01:11] <KNUBBIG> crlcan81: I have only 1mbit down here ... took 5 hours even to dl :D
[01:12] <nesto1000> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/H6aatrgG
[01:12]  * crlcan81 has 10-12
[01:12] <crlcan81> sometimes 15 with 'powerboost' as they call it, but that doesn't apply to this.
[01:12] <ohsix> nesto1000: ok thanks, fw is not involved at all and rgr was steering you into the weeds :]
[01:12] <crlcan81> 2 or 3 is my up if I remember right.
[01:12] <FoolsRun> Okay, here's an easy one. I have a fix I need to apply that suggests the following:  echo lirc > /sys/class/rc/rc0/protocols  Which is great except that I don't have an rc0 directory. Do I just create it?
[01:12] <doncams> hi. I upgraded to 11.04 but now my startup manager doesn't work
[01:13] <nesto1000> ohsix: What? lol
[01:13] <Daekdroom> Guys, should a CD md5sum match the ISO's md5sum?
[01:13] <ohsix> nesto1000: the firewall is not in the picture; there are no rules in it, so rgr was leading you to a dead end
[01:13] <tjiggi_fo> Daekdroom, exactly!
[01:14] <sebsebseb> Daekdroom: yes
[01:14] <Daekdroom> Ok, thank you.
[01:14] <jm0> KNUBBIG: well I deleted my linux partitions, and then merged the space with my c: drive. Now when i boot i dont get any GRUB menu but goes straight to grub rescue..........but i got it to load a windows recovery disk ill see what i can do
[01:14] <sebsebseb> Daekdroom: ISO should  have the same code, as the mirror/webpage
[01:14] <HAXEP> doncams: have u tried to reinstall the start-up manager?
[01:15] <unc0nn3ct3d> Evening folks, I can't seem to get my atheros wireless nic to connect to my router and I've tried everything I could think of and/or google.  No errors, iwlist scanning shows the router just fine, but I can't connect in terminal.
[01:15] <BufferUnderpants> Hello folks
[01:15] <KNUBBIG> man how I hate pressing ctrl alt f12 instead of just f12
[01:15] <BufferUnderpants> I have some Skype trouble
[01:15] <doncams> yes. i did reinstall
[01:15] <BKTech86> can anyone help me restore grub please?  I've tried using grub-install on my linux partition, but it doesn't work
[01:15] <jm0> KNUBBIG: well I deleted my linux partitions, and then merged the space with my c: drive. Now when i boot i dont get any GRUB menu but goes straight to grub rescue..........but i got it to load a windows recovery disk ill see what i can do
[01:15] <Daekdroom> sebsebseb, yeah, but I'm wondering wether the CD is damaged.
[01:16] <ubuntu_> hello, i'm getting grub error 17 after freshly installing 11.04 (over an older install). i tried rearranging my hard drives' order in bios, to no avail
[01:16] <aeon-ltd> !fixgrub | BKTech86
[01:16] <ubuntu_> what next?
[01:16] <HAXEP> BufferUnderpants: what are they?
[01:16] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: you managed to boot into ubuntu?
[01:16] <BufferUnderpants> I updated it on Maverick and now the sound pops and it crashes pulseaudio
[01:16] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: with CD yea
[01:17] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: you might be able to chroot and then completely purge and reinstall grub see !chroot
[01:17] <BKTech86> !chroot
[01:17] <awakening> Alright, I downloaded Kaffeine, but I'm actually having some trouble installing it...a newb at this
[01:17] <giampaolo> is there someone who appreciates the new UI?
[01:17] <trihope> KM0201: r u back
[01:18] <KM0201> trihope: yup
[01:18] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: sorry, i don't follow.  purge what?
[01:18] <BufferUnderpants> So I was wondering if someone had run into the same problem with Skype or if at least ir runs well on 11.04
[01:18] <ubuntu_> aeon-ltd - i'm pretty sure it's picking up an older grub
[01:18] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: apt-get remove --purge grub* and then reinstall grub or grub-legacy
[01:19] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: while booted from CD?
[01:19] <MrBean> Hi, the remote desktop option hangs often when I do ubuntu to ubuntu connection, since lucid I think, is it a known bug? the remote vnc crashes.
[01:19] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: if you chroot correctly, it should be possible (sorry I'm no expert with chrooting)
[01:20] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: you're saying to use chroot after mounting my real linux partition and then install grub there?
[01:20] <introuble> i have many rows in ms excel/oo worksheet containing numbers like 03004210000 , 030042510000 and so on. i can manullay scroll them and make a list of 03004210000 to 03004219999 (ten thousand each) but its very hard to do it for all. is there an automatic way?
[01:20] <christhecoolboy> could anyone else try and help me with this mic problem?
[01:20] <unc0nn3ct3d> MrBean : have you tried reducing your graphic settings to the bare min for that VNC connetion?
[01:20] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: yes I think that should be possible
[01:20] <Daekdroom> Has anyone else bumped into the LiveCD's internal integrity test indicating errors while the ISO and CD md5sums match?
[01:21] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: you don't think apt-get knows where the real / is?
[01:21] <ohsix> Daekdroom: only on bad media i burned at it's "rated" speed, try burning it at 4x or lower
[01:21] <MrBean> unc0nn3ct3d no, I'll try that thanks.
[01:21] <Daekdroom> ohsix, but the md5sum from the CD matches too
[01:21] <kpoman> guys please I pasted here my Xorg.0.log debug information. I dont understand why my "supported card" isnt working after upgrade to 11.04: http://pastebin.com/nKRxwuuU
[01:21] <BKTech86> arand: i mounted my linux partition and did a grub-install --root-directory=/mnt /dev/sda
[01:21] <kpoman> any clues ? any help really welcome !
[01:22] <SinnerNyx> Trying to disable 11.04 screen blanking in ubuntu server
[01:22] <ohsix> Daekdroom: the optical drives age can affect how fast it can actually burn too, a rarely used drive might only be able to manage half it's speed reliably
[01:22] <awakening> Can someone explain to me how to create an empty build directory?
[01:22] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: that's what chroot is for, isn't it?
[01:22] <BufferUnderpants> So... anyone using Skype on Natty?
[01:22] <BKTech86> arand: it said it was successful, and i see a grub folder in my linux partition/boot/
[01:22] <KNUBBIG> BufferUnderpants: yep, no problem here
[01:22] <arand> BKTech86: But what happens on boot?
[01:22] <BKTech86> KNUBBIG: isn't apt-get different than other programs though?
[01:22] <unc0nn3ct3d> MrBean: yea when I was living in Colombia connecting to my VNC in Canada I had to do that to ge tit to work
[01:22] <BufferUnderpants> KNUBBIG: ok, maybe I should try updating...
[01:23] <BKTech86> arand: the hard disk won't boot at all
[01:23] <ohsix> Daekdroom: i see
[01:23] <awakening> BKTech86, might be different from...
[01:23] <ohsix> Daekdroom: where did you get the image?
[01:23] <arand> BKTech86: You don't even see a grub message?
[01:23] <KNUBBIG> BKTech86: I'm not sure but I don't think so
[01:23] <BKTech86> arand: right
[01:23] <arand> BKTech86: Do you only have one disk?
[01:23] <BKTech86> arand: yes
[01:23] <unc0nn3ct3d> So anyone feel like helping me troubleshoot this wireless network problem?  Everything connected fine in 10.04 from inside xserver but now in 11.04 without xserver I can see the AP but I just can't connect to it :(
[01:24] <arand> !bootinfoscript | BKTech86
[01:24] <Daekdroom> ohsix, well, it's not actually my issue, but the guy got the image from the official torrent.
[01:24] <SinnerNyx> Trying to disable screen blanking in ubuntu server 11.04
[01:24] <kaz56> can anyone help with upgrading to 11.04? getting a fetch error
[01:24] <arand> BKTech86: Sorry, I'm trying to find a link..
[01:24] <ohsix> Daekdroom: for ubuntu right? not kubuntu or some 3rd party derived version?
[01:25] <Daekdroom> ohsix, right, ubuntu
[01:25] <introuble> i have many rows in ms excel/oo worksheet containing numbers like 03004210000 , 030042510000 and so on. i can manullay scroll them and make a list of 03004210000 to 03004219999 (ten thousand each) but its very hard to do it for all. is there an automatic way?
[01:25] <ohsix> Daekdroom: are you verifying that the burned cd md5 matches on the same drive that is reading it when checked from the boot menu?
[01:26] <kanuha> Is there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?
[01:28] <kaz56> can anyone help with upgrading to 11.04? please
[01:28] <Kevin147> kaz56: sure
[01:28] <meisth0th> kaz56, what's problem?
[01:28] <KNUBBIG> He's getting a fetch error
[01:28] <kanuha> Is there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?
[01:28] <kaz56> Thank you, I keep getting a fetch error
[01:29] <meisth0th> kaz56, can you pastebin the full error please?
[01:29] <Rockj> Q: when logging back into gnome2 session, it seems like the latest ubuntu have changed some compiz settings, I noticed the same behaviour under unity. My problem is that if Im not using "raise on click" , I won't be able to raise other window infront. Normally I do this by alt+mouseclicking a window. Any suggestions on how to fix?
[01:29] <SinnerNyx> Trying to disable screen blanking in ubuntu server 11.04
[01:29] <Susibrav> Guten Abend, ich hoffe ich störe nicht
[01:29] <KNUBBIG> !de | Susibrav
[01:29] <plustax> What can I use in ubuntu to burn an iso cd?
[01:30] <plustax> I need to burn windows 7 to disc so I can use it for my other computer
[01:30] <Susibrav> I m sorry
[01:30] <KNUBBIG> !burn | plustax
[01:30] <kaz56> You don't have permission to access /ubuntu/pool/universe/x/xulrunner-2.0/xulrunner-2.0-mozjs_2.0+nobinonly-0ubuntu1_i386.deb on this server.
[01:30] <KNUBBIG> Susibrav: no need to be sorry :)
[01:30] <Susibrav> ok
[01:31] <Susibrav> I m german
[01:31] <Susibrav> My english is not very well
[01:31] <KNUBBIG> Susibrav: that's why I suggested #ubuntu-de ;-)
[01:31] <ohsix> Rockj: you can change the compiz settings with ccsm, only some settings are migrated between .8 and .9 versions of compiz
[01:32] <Susibrav> I would like to meet people
[01:32] <stravant> With the update my sound seems to have broken. It's not *broken*, it works perfectly fine, however it refuses to unmute, it will play for a second and go right back to being muted. Has anyone else had this problem?
[01:32] <Nesto> ohsix: I figured out the problem...  -__-
[01:32] <spacebug-> KNUBBIG: may I ask. You are not swedish are you?
[01:32] <Rockj> ohsix: I got something called CompizConfig Settings Manager
[01:33] <KNUBBIG> spacebug-: hehe no I'm not, but I know what KNUBBIG means, I just like the sound of the word. Discovered at IKEA :-)
[01:33] <Dominater> how do i create users on the ftp server? i just installed vsftpd
[01:33] <Nesto> ohsix: For some reason I was putting a 2 as the last number for my host, instead of putting what it actually was... a 9
[01:33] <spacebug-> KNUBBIG: hehe ok thats why I asked ;)
[01:33] <kaz56> meisth0th: did you see the error?
[01:33] <ohsix> Nesto: nice :]
[01:33] <ohsix> Rockj: that's it
[01:33] <KNUBBIG> spacebug-: thought so :-)
[01:33] <Flare183> Alright, I'm here to help
[01:33] <Rockj> ohsix: oh, that is ccsm, and I have ticked of  "Raise on Click" under General Options -> Focus & Raise behaviour but I'm unable to alt+click a window to make it pop in front of other windows
[01:33]  * Flare183 is a ubuntu dev
[01:33] <kanuha> Is there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?
[01:33] <meisth0th> kaz56, looks like your mirror is not up-to-date or something
[01:33] <Flare183> Kevin147: I'm here bro
[01:34] <meisth0th> try another mirror
[01:34] <doncams> is it ok to ask here... how do I completely remove LAMP from ubuntu
[01:34] <bkerensa> yes
[01:34] <bkerensa> use apt-get remove
[01:34] <KNUBBIG> I might be too suspicious but I doubt that
[01:34] <bkerensa> doncams: Use apt-get remove lamp-server
[01:34] <Flare183> doncams: sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 php5 mysql-server
[01:34] <Kevin147> Flare183: alright, sweet :P
[01:34] <Dominater> how do i create users on the ftp server? i just installed vsftpd
[01:34] <demlasjr> sorry...I have one question related the fprint_demo....I'm getting libusb couldn't open USB device /dev/bus/usb/007/002: Permission denied.
[01:34] <demlasjr> libusb requires write access to USB device nodes. Tried to search on internet but nothing just a old bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fprint-demo/+bug/642745
[01:34] <demlasjr> Any solution ?
[01:35] <bkerensa> Flare183: Why not apt-get remove lamp-server ?
[01:35] <doncams> thanks
[01:35] <doncams> and if I installed suphp?
[01:35] <ohsix> Rockj: you probably need to bind it, alt+click(+drag) starts a drag for the move plugin too
[01:35] <bkerensa> doncams: It will go too
[01:35] <bkerensa> :)
[01:35] <kaz56> meisth0th: ok let me ask you this though. I burnt the alternative iso disc too, why is that trying to fetch something from online?
[01:35] <doncams> thanks. linux noob here
[01:35] <ohzie> Dominater: vsftp uses your system's users by default, I believe.
[01:35] <Flare183> bkerensa: Because, if you removed those packages it will autoremove once you sudo apt-get autoremove them
[01:35] <Flare183> Dominater: I recommend using proftpd
[01:35] <Flare183> Just imo
[01:35] <doncams> i guess i need to read a book bout linux first
[01:35] <meisth0th> alternative? may it be net install iso?
[01:36] <Flare183> !alternative | meisth0th
[01:36] <bkerensa> Dominater: I concur with Flare183... proftpd for the win
[01:36] <demlasjr> anyone please ?
[01:36] <Rockj> ohsix: the alt+click(+drag) works for moving the window, but it still moves behind other windows . Latest started program is the window with heighest z-index you could say...
[01:36] <Dominater> proftpd is better?
[01:36] <bkerensa> demlasjr: Have you ran apport?
[01:36] <demlasjr> no
[01:36] <thejonb> i'm getting a 404 not found error on a few of my maverick repositories.  Are some of the repositories offline because of traffic?
[01:36] <bkerensa> Dominater: In most cases yes
[01:36] <ohsix> Rockj: hm dunno what to say, it raises windows here
[01:37] <Dominater> thanks
[01:37] <kaz56> yes that one
[01:37] <meisth0th> i've used net install disc a few times but didn't use alternate, i don't know
[01:37] <Flare183> thejonb: its very possible yes, due to the massive traffic that the Ubuntu Servers (esp the US ones atm), you might get a 404 on some of them.
[01:37] <doncams> i get this error Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:37] <Flare183> meisth0th: The alternative installer is just a texted based installer (based on the debian installer)
[01:38] <bkerensa> thejonb: I would wait a few hours imho
[01:38] <Flare183> !dpkglock | doncams
[01:38] <Flare183> crap
[01:38] <bkerensa> doncams: !dpkglock
[01:38] <meisth0th> Flare183, i see but i don't know the answer of kaz56's question
[01:38] <doncams> thanks
[01:38] <KNUBBIG> doncams: used sudo or have another apt-get process runing?
[01:38] <ohsix> Rockj: the general options have raise & focus behavior tab
[01:38] <kaz56> Flare183: shouldn't it have all the packages?
[01:38] <bkerensa> eck
[01:38] <bkerensa> damn xchat script :P
[01:38] <Flare183> !aptlock | doncams\
[01:38] <altearius> I just upgraded to 11.04.  Now X won't start and my console window is unreadable. I can SSH in from another machine.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log says the NVIDIA module failed to load and no drivers are available.  How do I repair this?
[01:39] <doncams> oh... my synaptic is open
[01:39] <doncams> my bad
[01:39] <Flare183> altearius: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg
[01:39] <Flare183> I think
[01:39] <ohsix> Rockj: and the binding tab has binds for window raising stuff
[01:39] <Flare183> doncams: that's the problem :P
[01:39] <Rockj> ohsix: mhm, and that's where I untick all 3 first boxes so I get focus selected by mouse move, then I normally would use alt+mouseclick to raise the window.
[01:39] <thejonb> what concerns me is that the repositories that are returning 404 errors are the main maverick sources and main 1386 packages repos
[01:39] <ohsix> Rockj: then look at the bindings page :]
[01:39] <doncams> lol
[01:39] <Rockj> ohsix: oh, control button 6 , hm
[01:40] <ohsix> thejonb: that's normal
[01:40] <Rockj> ohsix: wonder what button that is :O
[01:40] <Flare183> I'll be honest everyone, I don't like the unity stuff. and I'll be the one to step up and say that when the devs where going to put unity in, I didn't like it.
[01:40] <ohsix> thejonb: unless you get an error reported from apt or whatever is fetching packages you can ignore it
[01:40] <Kevin147> !ot | Flare183
[01:40] <ohsix> Flare183: this is a help channel
[01:40] <Flare183> Kevin147: don't give me that bro :P
[01:40] <djr013> Flare183: You can always download Gnome3 or any other DE, for example.
[01:40] <Flare183> ohsix: and um duh, I'm one of the developers x.x
[01:41] <bazhang> Flare183, its the wrong place for it
[01:41] <altearius> Flare183: That command executes immediately and doesn't seem to actually do anything. =/
[01:41] <Flare183> -_-
[01:41] <KNUBBIG> Flare183: doesn't matter, ot is ot
[01:41] <ohsix> Flare183: also the review period for changes in unity was very long, this is the release
[01:41]  * Flare183 sighs
[01:41] <Flare183> I know people >.<
[01:41] <thejonb> ohsix: ok cool.  guess i'll keep trying back periodically
[01:41] <thejonb> thanks
[01:42] <thien> does it work if i bring my hdd with  a Ubuntu system to another computer?
[01:42] <djr013> Will 11.04 see feature improvements in Unity, or will those all be put off for 11.10?
[01:43] <djr013> I mean, bugfixes that border on being new features.
[01:43] <Rockj> ohsix: that seems to do the trick. just rebinded it to some other key. Tho, I think alt+mouseclick was standard unix/x11 behaviour from old days. Worked aslong as I can remember I think. Anyway, no problem remapping it, just had to know where :-)
[01:43] <ohsix> djr013: 11.04 will be supported as it is now, just like any release would; features are generally not accepted for stable release updates, only fixes and for security issues
[01:43] <ohsix> Rockj: there was no standard behavior, it's always been up to whatever window manager you were running
[01:43] <dibs> http://pastie.org/1849172  Can someone help me get upgraded, it fails for me
[01:43] <afeder> is there a dev channel for ubuntu?
[01:44] <Rockj> ohsix: ok, been working for me as long as I can remember at least - hehe.
[01:44] <Flare183> afeder: #ubunut-dev
[01:44] <djr013> ohsix: Alright, I was unsure simply because of the massive UI changes and potential for broad bugs in the interface and functionality.
[01:44] <Flare183> #ubuntu-dev *
[01:44] <kjxl9> minute
[01:44] <afeder> Flannel, thanks but i only see like 4 people there?
[01:44] <ohsix> Rockj: right :] just saying, a lot of stuff is grandfathered without too much thought, until it isn't
[01:44] <altearius> How do I look at my system's kernel log?
[01:44] <Flannel> afeder: It's #ubuntu-devel, not #ubuntu-dev
[01:44] <Flare183> afeder: Yes, but why would you like to talk to the devs?
[01:44] <Flare183> Flannel: bleh, I'm getting rusty at this again xD
[01:44] <afeder> Flannel, ah okay thanks
[01:45] <ohsix> djr013: then you'd probably get into an argument with someone over a definition of "bug" :]
[01:45] <afeder> Flare183, because i want to contribute? unless u try to stop me :)
[01:45] <djr013> haha perhaps
[01:45] <namzezam> Unpacking replacement linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic ...
[01:45] <namzezam> dpkg: ../../src/archives.c:809: tarobject: Assertion `r == stab.st_size' failed.
[01:45] <namzezam> What shall i do? This is more than 2 weeks now, that i can not upgrade. I did post the bug. Can not remove, nor reinstall this linux header . This is too bad and it is unsolved too long time. What shall i do?
[01:45] <FloodBot3> namzezam: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:45] <Flare183> afeder: of course I'm not going to stop you.
[01:45] <thien> does it work if i bring my hdd with  a Ubuntu system to another computer?
[01:45] <ohsix> djr013: when working from a design you have one large creative work that pretty much stands alone, you can disagree with the design but it doesn't get to the level of a bug, which is sometimes unfortunate
[01:46] <quellhorst> i have a ubuntu server iso, i want to get the desktop env also. what packages should i select?
[01:46] <Roasted> Is there a system requirements section in regard to Ubuntu Unity? I know about Ubuntu's spec, but I'm curious at what point users should decide from 2D or 3D Unity.
[01:46] <Flare183> quellhorst: ubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <IdleOne> quellhorst: ubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <bazhang> quellhorst, ubuntu-desktop
[01:46] <ohsix> quellhorst: ubuntu-desktop
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[01:46] <ohsix> hah he didn't even do it right
[01:46] <Flare183> fail
[01:46] <quellhorst> so i see --- ubuntu-desktop (246) ... but it just expands to a bunch of packages, not all of them are related.
[01:47] <Guest68551> i just installed the latest ubuntu 11.04 Natty Narwhal, and now it doesn't recognize my nvidia video card
[01:47] <ohsix> he just got a lot of people to connect to 81.178.210.42 though
[01:47] <p_res> Guest68551: did it before?
[01:47] <stravant> My sound is "stuck" muted after the update. It *is* working, but it re-mutes itself after a second of playing every time I unmute it. How can I fix this? All I can find are bugs for this which are supposedly already fixed.
[01:47] <dibs> is ActionParsnip about??
[01:47] <dibs>  http://pastie.org/1849172  Can someone help me get upgraded, it fails for me
[01:47] <hugelgupf> can somebody tell me what software is included in ubuntu-edu-tertiary? I've been trying to look for a list, but all i can find is that it's university-related software
[01:47] <djr013> thien: It should work fine with particular exemptions, for example if you have X configured for a particular setup.
[01:48] <kjxl9> hey guys
[01:48] <Rockj> does that dcc exploit still work? Thought that was fixed in irc clients ages ago . (offtopic)
[01:48] <p_res> kjxl9: hey.
[01:48] <Guest68551> p_res, did it before what?
[01:48] <p_res> Guest68551: before natty, was it recognized?
[01:49] <ohsix> stravant: is it doing it right now?
[01:49] <dibs> Where can I get help with UBUNTU?
[01:49] <stravant> Yes
[01:49] <ohsix> Rockj: it wasn't in irc clients, but the router
[01:49] <KNUBBIG> dibs: here
[01:49] <Guest68551> yes it came up fine, ran the update and now i have to select safe mode when i boot up
[01:49] <Kevin147> dibs: here
[01:49] <ohsix> stravant: ok, can you post the output of fuser -v /dev/snd/* to a pastebin
[01:49] <Guest68551> it tells me to run nvidia-xconfig
[01:50] <Guest68551> but i'm kind of new to ubuntu and don't know where to run it from,
[01:50] <p_res> Guest68551: so run it.
[01:50] <Kevin147> Guest68551: Run it in the terminal
[01:50] <KNUBBIG> Guest68551: run it from terminal with sudo in front
[01:50] <p_res> from a terminal
[01:50] <dibs> Kevin147: can you help me get upgraded to 11.04.  http://pastie.org/1849172
[01:50] <Guest68551> tried but let me try again
[01:50] <stravant> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/rXdqJxVT
[01:50] <Blake_> I can ask for support in here correct?
[01:50] <Rockj> ohsix: oh, never read up on the thing, I thought it was bad implementation on irc clients that you could abuse when overflowing it and cause it's connection to reset or something when you sent that dcc thingie.
[01:50] <KNUBBIG> Blake_: yes
[01:51] <ohsix> stravant: ok do the same for pacmd ls
[01:51] <stravant> That's when muted by the way, I can't get a copy of it when unmuted because it only plays for a fraction of a second
[01:51] <dibs> KNUBBIG:  Can you help me get upgraded??
[01:51] <Hugelgupf> does anybody know what software ubuntu-edu-tertiary includes?
[01:51] <bazhang> dibs, looks like the servers are not responding
[01:51] <kjxl9> is there a channel for musicians?
[01:51] <Guest68551> when i enter sudo nvidia-xconfig , prompts me for password which i enter then it comes back xconfig command not found
[01:51] <ohsix> stravant: thats fine, fuser was just to see who was using controlC0
[01:51] <bazhang> dibs, not surprising since its day two of release
[01:52] <dibs> bazhang: No tthe issue I am having. Been trying all day
[01:52] <bazhang> !alis | kjxl9
[01:52] <stravant> What's the exact command with pacmd?
[01:52] <kad_> hey!! i need help how i can add to: /etc/fstab so uder allow to mount/umount!! i try option: exec,rw,user,auto but didn't work
[01:52] <stravant> I don't seem to be getting and output that would be useful
[01:52] <stravant> Just "welcome to pulseaudio"
[01:53] <low_cpu> good night every one
[01:53] <Blake_> Alright well yesterday I updated from 10.10 to 11.4 and it didn't boot so I went to grub and choose my previous kernel,but couldn't change my boot order. Then I went into Ubuntu 10.10 Live CD no internet access.
[01:53] <drtg> hi, im using totem at the moment and when i try to play a video, it plays but with a message please install codec. Im using feisty atm. any help?
[01:53] <KNUBBIG> dibs: a shot in the dark would be to try apt-get install -f before trying to upgrade but no idea really
[01:53] <Blake_> Added a partition installed it and no internet connection.
[01:53]  * ceed^ is away: Auto-away after 1 mins idle (gone at 29th Apr, 19:53:41)
[01:53] <dibs> KNUBBIG: thanks man, the most helpful response so far
[01:53] <bazhang> drtg, feisty is not supported any longer. please upgrade to a supported version
[01:53] <Blake_> I ran a command and it sees my card, but I can't get it to work.
[01:53] <bazhang> ceed^`away, disable that please
[01:54] <drtg> bazhang: any other alternative if i still use fesity?
[01:54] <drtg> *feisty
[01:54] <KNUBBIG> auto-away after 1 minute, wow fast ;)
[01:54] <bazhang> drtg, its not supported here so no
[01:54] <delu> Hi, does anyone know how to make windows avoid docks when maximized/opened? I had it set up this way in Maverick, but upon reinstalling Ubuntu to Natty they appear under the dock instead. I am using Compiz and AWN.
[01:54] <djr013> drtg: What particular reason is preventing you from upgrading?
[01:55] <altearius> How do I view my system's kernel log?
[01:55] <drtg> djr013: last of hard disk space :(
[01:55] <pirol> i just updated to ubuntu 11.04 und tried out the catalyst 11.4 driver because i read that its now able to switch between 2 graphic chips. i have a radeon 5650 and a integrated intel. everything worked fine. but then i switched to the integrated chip with the catalyst control center just for testing. after a reboot the dedicated chip was disabled that was what i wanted but now i'm not able to start the control center again to switch back on the d
[01:55] <pirol> edicated card. doas anyone has an idea that can fix this?
[01:55] <djr013> oh heh
[01:55] <djr013> drtg: Get a bigger hard disk, you'll be glad you did. ;)
[01:55] <KNUBBIG> I'm off, good night everyone
[01:55] <drtg> djr013: i tried install the Gstreamer plugin but doesnt help too
[01:56] <Blake_> Did anyone read what I said?
[01:56] <drtg> http://linux.about.com/od/ubuntu_doc/a/ubudg6t2.htm
[01:56] <superlou_> Is Simple Backup deprecated from Natty?  This could be really unfortunate :(
[01:56] <Guest68551> adios all
[01:56] <djr013> altearius: System, Administration, System Log Viewer
[01:56] <bazhang> !info sbackup
[01:56] <bazhang> superlou_, still there ^
[01:57] <altearius> djr013: Err, how do I view my system kernel log if all I have is SSH access and no X?
[01:57] <superlou_> bazhang, thanks.  I was searching for the wrong name.  Saved me my data
[01:57] <praveen> i want to upgrade to 11.04 but my update manager is not showing option of 11.04...how to upgrade to 10.10 to 11.04??
[01:57] <djr013> drtg: Sorry I can't really help, haven't used that version in years, and it's unsupported anyway. :( It's worth it to upgrade, even if just to 10.04.
[01:58] <Blake_> Is there any Ubuntu Techs here? or anyone that can help me.
[01:58] <djr013> praveen: update-manager -d
[01:58] <bazhang> djr013, that wont work
[01:58] <praveen> drdj013:i have tried this...not working
[01:58] <djr013> praveen: The servers are under heavy load right now though, so be warned.
[01:58] <djr013> bazhang: Wrong command?
[01:59] <bazhang> djr013, its no longer development
[01:59] <djr013> oh :O what is it now then?
[01:59] <ohsix> stravant: "pacmd ls"
[01:59] <bazhang> !upgrade | praveen
[02:00] <cardamon> Whelp, switching to 10.10 (11.04 lol) broke things.  I've got an invisible menu bar. I couldn't even get a terminal up, I had to come to you in a vterm. I suspect compositing.
[02:00] <ohsix> superlou_: theres deja-dup if you're looking for an alternative ;]
[02:00] <Blake_> Can someone help me?
[02:01] <aj00200> cardamon: I can help you get a terminal up if you don't have a menu bar, but otherwise, I won't be much help
[02:01] <superlou_> ohsix, need to first recover all my backups from 9.04 :)  Have you found deja-dup to be superior?  Simplebackup was so simple that I actually started making backups regularly
[02:01] <aj00200> Blake_: it helps if you state your question
[02:01] <stravant> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/udmgUD2V
[02:01] <stravant> Sorry for the delay, needed to pipe it to a file since it didn't fit in the console
[02:01] <ohsix> superlou_: well it's simple, and it will backup when a volume is plugged in if it missed a regular backup; and i can mess with the backupsets with dpulicity, it served all my needs
[02:03] <praveen> ubottu: that is quite helpful..thanks!!!
[02:03] <Blake_> Aj00200: I did. I shall restate again. I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.4 and it wouldn't boot. Now Ubuntu isn't finding my Ethernet connection.
[02:03] <superlou_> ohsix, sounds sweet.  I'll check it out
[02:03] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: what happens when you try and boot the natty kernel?
[02:03] <Rockj> oh, what is good backup softwares to run on your private server? one that works for both os x, windows and linux hopefully? :)
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> !backup
[02:04] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: It sticks on the splash
[02:04] <ohsix> stravant: i don't see anything there that is muting anything by itself, finding out what's doing it is going to get ugly, you need to kill pulseaudio and run it in the foreground with logging, so you can see what client is muting it
[02:04] <Rockj> Ive tried backuppc, its neat for servers but a bit bleh for clients ...
[02:04] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: But its the -pae the one without it works.
[02:04] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: press ESC when plymouth shows, you will see the boot messages,what does it say?
[02:04] <cardamon> aj00200: alt-f2 isn't responding.
[02:04] <Rockj> !sbackup
[02:04] <stravant> Okay, does it need a command line option for verbosity or something?
[02:05] <Rockj> !cloning
[02:05] <unc0nn3ct3d> oh my god this new GUI setup for 11.04 is hurting my brain.. how do I turn this mac-esque carebare deisgn off and go back to what it was in 10.04?
[02:05] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: I rather get ethernet working then 11.4 to boot
[02:05] <ohsix> unc0nn3ct3d: you could have just asked how to do it
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> unc0nn3ct3d: mac has the panel at the bottom
[02:05] <raymondjtoth> why did 11.04 build not turn on the 3945 abg wireless card everf thing but that dose work it worked in 10 build
[02:05] <raymondjtoth> dine
[02:05] <raymondjtoth> fine
[02:05] <raymondjtoth> whats goin on thanks?
[02:05] <jrenner> Hey guys I'm having an issue suspending. when I tell the comp to suspend it's hibernating instead. I need to only suspend because I run sshd on it and I need it to be accessible
[02:05] <ActionParsnip> unc0nn3ct3d: log off, select your name, then change the desktop you log in to at the bottom
[02:05] <unc0nn3ct3d> ActionParsnip: yea, I have a panel too, that part I like.. the rest, my god.
[02:05] <Rockj> unc0nn3ct3d: at login, you can still select gnome2 (ubuntu classic) as your window manager.
[02:05] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, whats the issue mine works fine
[02:06] <altearius> How do I view my system kernel log from an SSH shell and/or how can I start Unity from a SSH shell with X-Forwarding?
[02:06] <unc0nn3ct3d> Thank goodness
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: ok then run:  sudolshw -C network   use the product line to find guides
[02:06] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: why did 11.04 build not turn on the 3945 abg wireless card everf thing but that dose work it worked in 10 build [20:05] <raymondjtoth> dine [20:05] <raymondjtoth> fine
[02:06] <ohsix> raymondjtoth: there were changes outside of ubuntu with the 3945 driver that affected ubuntu
[02:06] <raymondjtoth> i got a dell e1505 laptop
[02:06] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: Well I could, but it worked before and why not now?
[02:06] <ActionParsnip> altearius: i'd just run the apps yu want rather than thefull desktop
[02:06] <unc0nn3ct3d> thanks for the heads up.. the pressure is slowly releasing from my head at having to try to manage through that gui.
[02:06] <raymondjtoth> ohsix how i fix it thanks
[02:06] <toff> Hai
[02:06] <jrenner> anyone have an idea why my system is hibernating when it should be suspending?
[02:06] <ohsix> jrenner: ssh will not be accessible if you suspend or hibernate
[02:06] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, yes, try the hardware switch for the wifi if you have one
[02:07] <jrenner> oh really?
[02:07] <jrenner> doesn't WOL solve that?
[02:07] <ohsix> jrenner: for all intents and purposes the computer is off
[02:07] <raymondjtoth> bazhang:  ddi you see wgar ohsix posted
[02:07] <aj00200> cardamon: ok. Have you tried safemode or whatever it's called in Linux. I think it is called recovery mode or failsafe or something like that
[02:07] <raymondjtoth> ohsix: any fix yet for it
[02:07] <altearius> ActionParsnip: I don't know the command to run the system log viewer. =/
[02:07] <ohsix> jrenner: WOL is something else and it can wake computers up from hibernate or suspend, if your bios supports it
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: well you changed your system in a huge way, so it will be affected, its a regression bug
[02:07] <jnovek> Hey guys -- my wife just upgraded her machine to 11.04 and Unity flakes out on her.  Is there a config I can hack up to get it to boot classic?  She's configured to auto-login so I can't just switch env. on login for her.
[02:07] <ActionParsnip> altearius: dmesg | less
[02:07] <prodigel> hi all. just updated to 11.04. Big question: how do I revert to the classical window manager? I'm not used to the shiny new compiz interface, and I really want back the old one. thanks
[02:07] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, yes, I have that chipset and it works flawlessly with 11.04
[02:08] <bazhang> prodigel, at the login window choose classic
[02:08] <ohsix> raymondjtoth: you might listen to bazhang, i just know there were some changes and some people had problems
[02:08] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: weird might be some not afected and some is
[02:08] <jrenner> ohsix: I've had this working before so I'm trying to see if there's anything I need to do. do I need to install anything on ubuntu for it to wake on lan or is it purely a bios thing?
[02:08] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: Well I should add it's on my Motherboard and I have the disk and for Linux it tells me to update the Kernel.
[02:08] <raymondjtoth> ohsix:  im one that hhaving the problem
[02:08] <raymondjtoth> ohsix: any work around
[02:08] <ActionParsnip> altearius: or run:   gnome-system-log &
[02:08] <toff> freeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?
[02:08] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, does ifconfig show it
[02:08] <ohsix> raymondjtoth: if there was, i don't know it
[02:08] <altearius> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[02:09] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: it shows ever were even in ifconfig
[02:09] <toff> What is the cause of  this problem?
[02:09] <aj00200> Rockj: does "incremental backup" mean that it will store the changes not the whole file?
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> altearius: all i did was grep the .desktop file and it shows the command it runs
[02:09] <ohsix> jrenner: well i think the OS can have a say in wether WOL will bring the machine out of suspend, but i think it's still down to the bios
[02:09] <Roasted> I'm browsing my samba share on a laptop. All of the thumbnails are coming up black with the white text JPG. Is there any way I can SEE the thumbnails?
[02:09] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: any idea
[02:09] <jrenner> ohsix: thanks I'll look into it
[02:09] <ohsix> aj00200: it means that each backup won't be a full copy, generally it means it will only store changes to a file, yes
[02:09] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: you may find the new kernel is ok once you get a desktop
[02:10] <cardamon> Just ran the Natty Narwhal upgrade widget.  I've got an invisible menubar up top.  It's semi responsive, but I can't access any applications.  I can't even get a term up and alt-f2 isn't giving me a run menu.  I could use some help fixing it.  I suspect compositing might be an issue.  I usually disable it because this netbook is quite slow and the intel 945GMA doesn't like it.
[02:10] <toff> freeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?
[02:10] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, well I had the hw switch on mine, and after clicking it on/off/on I found it availabe in the nm dropdown (ie my access point)
[02:10] <aj00200> ohsix: ok, thanks
[02:10]  * hiexpo WOW
[02:10] <Lantech> Hello
[02:10] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: ?
[02:10] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: i did the switch dont turn it on
[02:10] <stravant> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/mGX7Z2PD That's the output that comes up when I unmute it and it remutes
[02:10] <toff> freeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?
[02:10] <bazhang> toff, stop repeating every five seconds
[02:10] <kpoman> help !
[02:11] <ohsix> stravant: yea but it doesn't say what client sent the mute, add -vvv so it's noisier
[02:11] <aj00200> cardamon: if you log out and switch to "failsafe gnome" at the bottom (you are still on 10.04/10.10 right?), does it work?
[02:11] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: I not quite sure if I follow. I created a partition installed 10.10 booted into that 10.10 partition. And it doesn't work when I used the exact same disk to install it before.
[02:11] <robin0800> kpoman, is that a question?
[02:11] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: hope can still have idea
[02:11] <Lantech> I've migrated a win7 install with Wubi to an SSD.  Then, I moved the wubi install to a "real" install on a partition.  Now, I'm upgrading to 11.04.
[02:11] <toff> bazhang : really urgent bcuz my project it is ?
[02:11] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, already on final?
[02:11] <raymondjtoth> it like if there no driver in windows or a maping for it in dell e1505
[02:11] <Lantech> Do I need to do any tweaks RE the SSD?
[02:11] <kpoman> robin0800: I posted my Xorg log, failure loading DRI for radeon on 11.04
[02:11] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, nah i am alright brotha   thanks though probally help for a minute deciding if i wanna jump in on this   >   is very busy
[02:11] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: it gave me it as update
[02:11] <Lantech> in terms of trim support or anything?
[02:11] <bazhang> toff, that will get zero help. try every 15 minutes
[02:11] <cardamon> aj00200: No. I moved to Narwhal.
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: I though you said you upgraded to natty? SO why is the install disk part of the equation
[02:12] <aj00200> cardamon: ok. Are you using Unity or Gnome?
[02:12] <fr00g> Can anybody tell me why there is no longer a battery indicator in Unity2d?
[02:12] <Lantech> No?  Yes?  Maybe?  Fuck off Lantech?
[02:12] <cardamon> aj00200: I don't know what.  Whatever's default.
[02:12] <IdleOne> !language | Lantech
[02:12] <toff> bazhang : let me try
[02:12] <bazhang> Lantech, no cursing
[02:12] <Lantech> sigh
[02:12] <ActionParsnip> fr00g: in power settings you can enable/disable it
[02:12] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: I did, but I didn't like it so I created a partition and put 10.10 back on there. Because I have 200GB of movies and music and stuff that I don't want to re-do.
[02:12] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: amy idea
[02:12] <cardamon> I heard it was switching to Unity, but at no point have I been given an option to make a switch.
[02:13] <hiexpo> !lanuuage > Lantech
[02:13] <fr00g> Ah, thank you!
[02:13] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, patience please
[02:13] <Lantech> yeah, thanks.  tell me again.
[02:13] <Lantech> TIL this channel sucks
[02:13] <stravant> ohsix: That looks more useful: http://pastebin.com/ABW4t2kE
[02:13] <ohsix> Lantech: the kernel and filesystems in it would handle discard and stuff; newer does more, but the long short of it is you'd be looking at kernel changes between versions
[02:13] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: sorry im austic person
[02:13] <aj00200> cardamon: ok. Unity is default. You might want to try logging out and when you are logging in, select Gnome or failsafe or fallback or something like that at the bottom of the screen after you click your user name
[02:13] <cardamon> I was running Lucid, the thing told me an upgrade was available, I had time so I ran it.
[02:13] <raymondjtoth> sorry that not waiting some times it comes out
[02:13] <stravant> ohsix: That's the whole mute-remute cycle
[02:13] <fr00g> I have another question, when I use Faenza icons, the Unity2d panel still shows the default Ubuntu icons, why?
[02:13] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, I'm checking the forums. please patience
[02:13] <ubuntumanny> Anyone know how to add global menu support for celtx?
[02:13] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: o ok want sure
[02:14] <sarasota_mac> anyone try updating to Natty Narwhal
[02:14] <SinnerNyx> on ubuntu server trying to run a command on server bootup. not on login. Where would I put the command?
[02:14] <ohsix> stravant: do you have multiple ovlume controls open? i saw 3 in pacmd ls
[02:14] <aj00200> sarasota_mac: yes, I updated
[02:14] <BKTech86> hi, I can't boot my disk - i used to dual boot win7/ubuntu and now i've restored grub and checked using a script that everything is correct in the MBR, etc. but the disk won't boot -- i can mount it from a live cd boot and all that - read/write, but it won't boot
[02:14] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: if it doesn't depend on anything, rc.local
[02:14] <sarasota_mac> i did and my video now has to run in low graphic mode
[02:14] <ohsix> SinnerNyx: if it does you probably want a sysvinit/upstart script to start it after the resources you need are available
[02:15] <magicka> hey
[02:15] <stravant> I don't know, I would assume I only have one, I don't even have the indicator applets running, I tried removing them to see if they were the problem
[02:15] <kpoman> robin0800: got any idea ? http://pastebin.com/nKRxwuuU
[02:15] <fr00g> When I use Faenza icons, the Unity2d panel still shows the default Ubuntu mono icons, why?
[02:15] <magicka> Anyone know about installing Broadcom b43 drivers on ubuntu 11.04
[02:15] <BKTech86> I also can't boot from "boot from first disk option" of the live cd, -- does anybody know what could be preventing this disk from booting?
[02:15] <aj00200> sarasota_mac: do you mean the window effects?
[02:15] <gtlarue> my sound has suddenly became choppy, all of it sounding like a person speaking through a fan, trying to find a way to bring it back to normal without rebooting
[02:15] <raymondjtoth> thanks for helping bazhang
[02:15] <sarasota_mac> so far i'm not to impress with ubuntu, first update and it blows up!!
[02:15] <robin0800> fr00g, you have to log out or even reboot first
[02:15] <ohsix> magicka: the drivers are there and don't need to be installed, they do need firmware though
[02:15] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom | magicka
[02:15] <namzezam> why no one replay to this bug on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic ?
[02:15] <magicka> uhhhhhhhhhhhh
[02:15] <magicka> k
[02:15] <Marsha||[a]> hello
[02:15] <fr00g> Are you sure? When I log out/in all the appicons chanegd, just not the panel icons?
[02:16] <aj00200> sarasota_mac: are you talking about the window effects?
[02:16] <Marsha||[a]> i just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04
[02:16] <Marsha||[a]> then upgraded to gnome 3
[02:16] <cardamon> aj00200: Is it listed as something else? My options are Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (No Effects)...
[02:16] <sarasota_mac> and it's garbage huh
[02:16] <SinnerNyx> ohsix: Thx, I'm trying it out now
[02:16] <Marsha||[a]> now i got the oh no! something has gone wrong error
[02:16] <exad> Hello everone
[02:16] <truepurple> Hi, anyone know anything specific about ATI drivers?
[02:16] <Marsha||[a]> can't open my gnome anymore :(
[02:16] <Marsha||[a]> anyideas ?
[02:16] <aj00200> cardamon: yes, try Ubuntu Classic (No Effects). This should be Gnome
[02:16] <exad> I am thinking about putting ubuntu 11.04 on my alienware m11x r2
[02:16] <sarasota_mac> when i boot up i see my desktop with flashing icons, mail and untitled folder
[02:16] <exad> but I have a question
[02:17] <exad> My laptop has optimus graphics switching technology
[02:17] <sarasota_mac> then i reboot selecting run in fail safe,
[02:17] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: stil here
[02:17] <raymondjtoth> still here
[02:17] <namzezam> why no  replay  on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic  BUG?
[02:17] <tjiggi_fo> !gnome3 | Marsha||[a]
[02:17] <cardamon> aj00200: That worked.
[02:17] <stravant> ohsix: What would I be looking for in terms of multiple volume controls?
[02:17] <exad> is there any way I can disable one of the cards or something since linux doesn't support optimus yet?
[02:17] <bazhang> raymondjtoth, yes, still looking
[02:17] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: You didn't forget about me did you? I know it's busy, but just making sure.
[02:17] <aj00200> sarasota_mac: please keep your question/explanation on one line so it doesn't get mixed in with other questions
[02:17] <vivid> exad, you cant use optimus
[02:18] <stravant> ohsix: (In terms of process names?)
[02:18] <tjiggi_fo> Marsha||[a], that's what happened
[02:18] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: thanks for helping me
[02:18] <lmd1984> I never used Ubuntu, I always use Windows. So, this is my first time in this operative system. I just have one question, Can I install normally the sims 3 on this release of Ubuntu?
[02:18] <lmd1984> The truth is that I have no idea if the sims 3 it can be install on Linux.
[02:18] <lmd1984> I'd really appreciate an answer. Thanks.
[02:18] <toff> freeradius : I configured freeradius to mac auth . But having a problem . Even though the client can connect to the server if authenticated . While during the same session when he try to reconnect the server is sending a access-reject. can anybody help me in this?
[02:18] <escott> exad, it would be in your bios
[02:18] <Marsha||[a]> :S
[02:18] <Marsha||[a]> so what can i do now ?
[02:18] <exad> Can I disable any of the video cards though?
[02:18] <exad> its not in my bios
[02:18] <vivid> exad, if you have an ATI card there are options for it, but you wont need it really
[02:18] <exad> it's managed by software
[02:18] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: do you dual boot?
[02:18] <tjiggi_fo> Marsha||[a], reinstall 11.04
[02:18] <bazhang> lmd1984, check the appdb and ask in #winehq
[02:18] <ardchoille> What is Ubuntu's official twitter page?
[02:18] <exad> its an nvidia card
[02:18] <Marsha||[a]> i upgraded
[02:18] <vivid> exad, i have the m15x and i get about 4 hours on battery which should be more than enough
[02:18] <aj00200> cardamon: great! I had a similar problem on an older computer with the Unity beta. I haven't updated to Natty there yet so it may be your graphics card not supporting 3d acceleration.
[02:18] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: Before No. Now yes.
[02:18] <bazhang> !appdb | lmd1984
[02:18] <Marsha||[a]> cant reinstall all data here :(
[02:19] <robin0800> kpoman, think there is something about this in the release notes
[02:19] <sarasota_mac> sorry about that
[02:19] <Marsha||[a]> i am on KDE now
[02:19] <cardamon> How to configure Unity? If I can get compositing off it may work.
[02:19] <namzezam> why no  replay  on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic  BUG?
[02:19] <escott> exad, i thought optimus did something weird running the nvidia controls through the intel card. but check the forums and see
[02:19] <vivid> exad, so nvidia = no, you just use the nvidia card and set up power saving when youre on battery, should work fine
[02:19] <Marsha||[a]> but it sucks i am more gnome person lol
[02:19] <ActionParsnip> Blake_: boot to windows, enable the nic then boot ubuntu, should be ok
[02:19] <fr00g> I have an issue, when I use the live CD, unity 3d works, on the hard drive after installation, I'm forced to use 2d
[02:19] <fr00g> Why?
[02:19] <exad> vivid: I just dont want my 335gt running 247 and heating up my system
[02:19] <aj00200> cardamon: you may have to isntall Unity 2D to get it to work if your graphics card does not support 3D hardware acceleration
[02:19] <Marsha||[a]> tjiggi_fo, i can't just remove & reinstall old gnome 2.* ?
[02:20] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: I lied I don't dual boot ubuntu and Windows it just ubuntu 10.10 and Ubuntu 11.4
[02:20] <uRock> !apparmor
[02:20] <vivid> exad, when you power up and its on battery, it will automatically go low power, when mine is on battery it does no heating
[02:20] <namzezam> yes, it some times i try upgrade and fail on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic  , i do report it here and no one even look at it, why?
[02:20] <vivid> exad, short story, youll have little trouble with it and you dont need to worry about optimus
[02:20] <exad> but it will use the 335gt by default? will it never use the Intel HD graphics?
[02:21] <robin0800> namzezam, report it as a bug then
[02:21] <vivid> exad, it will use your nvidia card
[02:21] <namzezam> where and how
[02:21] <exad> ok I guess Ill give it a shot then
[02:21] <sarasota_mac> any idea how to add my nvidia video card
[02:21] <stravant> ohsix: "gvfs-afc-volume-monitor", "gvf-gdu-volume-monitor", "gnome-volume-control" were open
[02:21] <exad> vivid have you tried gaming with wine at all?
[02:21] <jnovek> I have an 11.04 upgrades that auto-logins and has a hosed Unity -- is there a config file I can edit to set it to Gnome2/Classic?
[02:21] <vivid> exad, i havent tried natty or maverick on my laptop yet so i dunno how theyll act, currently using lucid
[02:22] <sarasota_mac> don't load natty
[02:22] <lmd1984> thanks, has been very helpful.
[02:22] <exad> I see
[02:22] <stravant> ohsix: Or at least that's what I found with ps -A grep "vol" / "sound"
[02:22] <uRock> does anyone know where all of the apparmor profiles for chromium are in ubuntu 10.10?
[02:22] <exad> Well I will give it a shot then
[02:22] <vivid> exad, yes i get about 60 fps in wow and about the same in tf2 with the gt 240m
[02:22] <exad> you've been most informative thank you
[02:22] <MK``> Are the earlier releases of Lucid. 10.04 and 10.04.1, available for download anymore or do they only host 10.04.2?
[02:22] <namzezam> http://paste.ubuntu.com/598867/
[02:22] <ohsix> stravant: first 2 have to do with storage volumes, not volumes volumes, i was talking about connected clients in the output of pacmd ls
[02:22] <escott> jnovek, /etc/gdm/custom.conf
[02:22] <emacsen> How come the scrollbar is different in pidgin than in gnome-terminal or firefox?
[02:23] <gruyen> what is the package name of the installer (for reporting bugs w/ ubuntu-bug)?
[02:23] <sarasota_mac> where do i run nvidia-xconfig from
[02:23] <stravant> ohsix: I have like, 20 tabs open so I'm sure there's several things using sound references
[02:23] <exad> bbl
[02:23] <tjiggi_fo> Marsha||[a], there's no way back. Read the ubottu factoid again. Just use a live CD to rescue your data and reinstall
[02:23] <Blake_> ActionParsnip: ...
[02:23] <stravant> ohsix: Would it help to only have one open?
[02:23] <BKTech86> can anyone help me get my harddrive to boot again please? windows7 repair screwed it up
[02:23] <jnovek> Thanks, good luck guys.  Lots of (mostly god) surprises in Natty.
[02:23] <scorch_> how do I make the desktop icons smaller on unity?  WAY TOO BIG, lol
[02:23] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: thansk agen for helping
[02:23] <Marsha||[a]> cant uninstall gnome & reinstal old one ?
[02:24] <sarasota_mac> any idea why video works in fail safe mode but not in regular
[02:24] <tjiggi_fo> Marsha||[a], you can try but I cannot help you
[02:24] <escott> BKTech86, have you reinstalled grub?
[02:24] <BKTech86> escott: yes
[02:24] <jeremymcs> natty is jank
[02:24] <Marsha||[a]> i think i will have to
[02:24] <sarasota_mac> yes it is
[02:24] <jeremymcs> ugly
[02:24] <scorch_> your jank
[02:24] <escott> BKTech86, do you know what win 7 did?
[02:24] <Marsha||[a]> thanks tjiggi_fo u helped already
[02:24] <stravant> scorch_: Alt + F2, about:config, then in experimental there's a size setting
[02:25] <uRock> !opinions
[02:25] <BKTech86> escott: i have no clue but the disk is not bootable
[02:25] <BKTech86> escott: mountable, readable, writable, but not bootable
[02:25] <hiexpo> Blake_,  no one is gonna wanna help you here if you keep playing  whatever game you are playing   >   if you want help than ask your serious ? an so be
[02:25] <aj00200> sarasota_mac: I think it might not work in the regular mode because your graphics card does not support 3D hardware acceleration, but I am not sure.
[02:25] <escott> BKTech86, sounds like you don't have a bootloader in the mbr
[02:25] <BKTech86> escott: i ran some boot_info_script.sh
[02:25] <escott> BKTech86, you would need to boot the livecd, chroot into the ubuntu system, then run grub-install /dev/sda
[02:25] <plummerb> Question for the intellihancia
[02:26] <BKTech86> escott: it said the mbr is in /dev/sda and points to my linux partition where grub is successfully installed blah blah
[02:26] <scorch_> stravant its not coming up, just about config
[02:26] <BKTech86> escott: i'm pretty sure grub is there in the boot folder
[02:26] <BKTech86> escott: but if that's not enough, can you guide me through this chroot thing?
[02:27] <stravant> scorch_: Does Alt+F2 bring up the "run command thing"?
[02:27] <escott> BKTech86, yeah best not to trust the script
[02:27] <scorch_> yes
[02:27] <BKTech86> escott: btw, grub-install said Installation successful.  No errors reported.
[02:27] <scorch_> strvant yes
[02:27] <escott> BKTech86, when you get to the live cd open a terminal
[02:27] <BKTech86> escott: ok i'm almost there
[02:27] <stravant> scorch_: about about:config brings up CompizConfig?
[02:27] <Blake_> hiexpo: I am being serious. I don't have Windows on that computer.
[02:28] <uRock> nevermind, I found it
[02:28] <scorch_> stravant no
[02:28] <BKTech86> escott: ther
[02:28] <plummerb> Can anyone tell me if there are any issues with upgrading to 11.04?  Specifically concerning how your desktop is displayer?
[02:28] <plummerb> Displayed...
[02:29] <cardamon> plummerb: It's not.
[02:29] <bazhang> plummerb, what version are you on now
[02:29] <escott> BKTech86, then do the following: sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu (# should be your ubuntu root partition); sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu/boot (if you have a boot partition); sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev; sudo chroot /mnt/ubuntu; sudo grub-install /dev/sda1
[02:29] <cardamon> A lot of us seem to be experiencing bugs.
[02:29] <aj00200> plummerb: the main issue is that some people end up using Ubuntu Classic (Gnome) rather than the new display (Unity)
[02:29] <plummerb> I upgraded to 11.04
[02:29] <stravant> scorch_: try sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[02:30] <scorch_> k
[02:30] <BKTech86> escott: by "if you have a boot partition" you mean if i have a separate partition solely for the "boot" folder, right?
[02:30] <stravant> scorch_: Then try about:config again
[02:30] <escott> BKTech86, yes
[02:30] <BKTech86> escott: my boot folder is in /dev/sda5/boot -- so it's not a separate partition
[02:30] <plummerb> Yes, I noticed the major change...
[02:30] <escott> BKTech86, then skip that command
[02:31] <aj00200> plummerb: no. I'm saying that this new interface doesn't work for some people and they have to revert to the older one
[02:31] <BKTech86> escott: sda1 is my windows partition
[02:31] <BKTech86> escott: should i not do sudo grub-install /dev/sda5?
[02:31] <oneliner> 1176 MB for the 11.04 update?
[02:31] <escott> BKTech86, sorry sudo grub-install /dev/sda (no number)
[02:31] <BKTech86> escott: ok
[02:31] <plummerb> Well, I see that gnome is running so I guess gnome is still the window manager on my system.
[02:31] <cardamon> Anyone know way to configure unity when running Ubuntu Classic?
[02:31] <ohsix> oneliner: to update your installed packages
[02:32] <oneliner> 1740sh of them
[02:32] <oneliner> sweet!
[02:32] <BKTech86> escott: /proc/devices: fopen failed: No such file or directory a bunch of times
[02:32] <BKTech86> escott: then "Is device mapper driver missing form kernel?
[02:32] <oneliner> i wonder what will happen with non traditional software like apache servers in opt n all that
[02:33] <plummerb> Do I have to switch to Unity?
[02:33] <BKTech86> escott: Failed to set up list of device-mapper major numbers, then more of the 1st error a bunch of times
[02:33] <scorch_> stravant ok, I am talking about icons I put on the desktop
[02:33] <BKTech86> escott: then "Installation finished. No error erported." <-- lol
[02:33] <escott> BKTech86, :) hmmm you could try grub-install --recheck /dev/sda maybe that will silence the warning
[02:33] <Blue1> BKTech86: no errors airported - means it didn't fly the coop
[02:33] <ohsix> plummerb: you don't have to do anything
[02:33] <stravant> scorch_: Sorry, figured your were taking about the ones in the menu since I had the same problem
[02:34] <robin0800> cardamon, what do you mean?
[02:34] <escott> BKTech86, we didn't bind mount the /proc
[02:34] <BKTech86> escott: should we have?
[02:34] <[thor]> plummerb: at login, you can choose "Ubuntu Classic"
[02:34] <BKTech86> escott: btw i have no idea what that means
[02:34] <escott> BKTech86, in another terminal execute sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc
[02:34] <Kage> I am having a issue, after the boot splash screen, I get a blank screen.  I can not move to a vertiral console (ctrl + alt + fX).  I have tested ubuntu and kubuntu, with both 64 and 32 bit archs.  This happens both with the live cd and  after install from alternate disks.
[02:34] <escott> BKTech86, that should silence the warnings
[02:34] <Blue1> escott: ru trying to recover the mbr?
[02:34] <[thor]> plummerb: ultimately, you can choose whichever desktop environment you wish.
[02:34]  * ceed^ is away: Auto-away after 30 mins idle (gone at 29th Apr, 20:34:54)
[02:34] <BKTech86> escott: should re-do the grub-install command now?
[02:35] <cardamon> robin0800: I mean that in Unity, I've got invisible menus and can't find anything to run or configure anything.  I'd like to fix it.  I'm in classic pre-Unity gnome at the moment.
[02:35] <Kage> I can get knoppix to boot, anyone wanna tell me where I should start looking for the issue?
[02:35] <escott> Blue1, yes restoring the mbr
[02:35] <plummerb> thor: Alright.  Classic works better with gnome?
[02:35] <escott> BKTech86, yes try after that bind mount
[02:35] <BKTech86> escott: right, no errors
[02:35] <escott> Blue1, seems to be a lot of broken grubs after this upgrade
[02:35] <Blue1> escott: okay I have the procedure written down if you'd like:  http://pkill-9.com/recovering-ubuntudebian-linux-after-a-windows-installhiccup/
[02:36] <BKTech86> escott: i didn't upgrade!
[02:36] <escott> BKTech86, cross your fingers and reboot?
[02:36] <scorch_> does anyone know how to make desktop icons smaller in unity?
[02:36] <[thor]> plummerb: i'm not sure; I have only tried the beta of Natty, and i could not get Unity to work correctly.
[02:36] <uhuhuh> hello. How to configure 11.04's application panel?
[02:36] <BKTech86> escott: ok will do
[02:36] <robin0800> cardamon, sounds like compiz/unity crashed
[02:36] <cardamon> robin0800: Probably.  I don't use compositing anyway.  My intel 945GMA doesn't like it.
[02:36] <plummerb> thor: Alrighty...  I'll give it a shot.  Thank you.
[02:36] <plummerb> Thanks all
[02:37] <cardamon> So I want to turn it off and I need to find where it is.
[02:37] <robin0800> cardamon, then you can't run unity 3d
[02:37] <sushemsu> are there proprietary drivers for on board for my toshiba laptop on my ubuntu 10.10
[02:37] <BKTech86> escott: no dice
[02:37] <escott> Blue1, i feel like this is one of those things people will just want to be walked through
[02:37] <Blue1> escott: it's all there though --
[02:37] <sushemsu> umm on board video
[02:37] <Nappz> What command line tool can I use for expanding my main boot partition?
[02:37] <escott> BKTech86, but you can mount /dev/sda5 fine
[02:37] <BKTech86> escott: correcvt
[02:38] <Blue1> Nappz: gparted?
[02:38] <escott> Blue1, I know just a comment on the psychology of the situation... not booting freaks people out
[02:38] <stravant> ohsix: So is there anything you can do with this: http://pastebin.com/TWwN9n8t paulsdio -vvv output for the muting?
[02:38] <cardamon> robin0800: So what?
[02:38] <Blue1> escott: I am convinced that I made the right decision in staying with 10.10
[02:38] <escott> BKTech86, have you run an fsck on it?
[02:38] <ohsix> stravant: i don't know why g-v-c would be muting it by itself; something else is doing it
[02:38] <Nappz> k thanks
[02:38] <robin0800> carandraug, classic or unity 2d
[02:38] <BKTech86> escott: is that an acryonym for all of the cursewords going through my mind atm?
[02:39] <stravant> ohsix: So it is the volume control muting it?
[02:39] <robin0800> cardamon, , classic or unity 2d
[02:39] <Blue1> BKTech86: fsck is file stucture check
[02:39] <BKTech86> escott: trying now...
[02:39] <escott> its a well chosen command name :) if anyone says your filesystem is fsck'ed you know what they mean
[02:39] <BKTech86> escott: Blue1: i tried using the check disk utility from live cd
[02:39] <ohsix> stravant: that's what it says, what it doesn't say is why; theres no functionality to automatically mute your sound every 5 seconds in it ;]
[02:39] <escott> BKTech86, although yours sounds fine which is what is so confusing
[02:39] <BKTech86> escott: said there were no errors
[02:40] <BKTech86> escott: is that equivalent to fsck?
[02:40] <stravant> ohsix: Is there any way I can unmute it via the command line without havingt he volume control running?
[02:40] <IanLiu> After last update from Natty, I can't login with GDM anymore. The password seems to be accepted, the screen gets black, and the GDM screen appears again. Any hints?
[02:40] <BKTech86> escott: could it be something in the bios?
[02:40] <plummerb> Well, I logged in using Ubuntu Classic but my desktop icons are still all jacked up...  lol
[02:40] <BKTech86> escott: i believe i put everything back to normal but .. ?
[02:40] <escott> BKTech86, probably just a gui for it. how is your system partitioned
[02:41] <BKTech86> escott: i have win7 on sda1
[02:41] <Desqwewehyhg> hi
[02:41] <BKTech86> escott: and ubuntu on sda5
[02:41] <escott> BKTech86, bios could mess things up but the bios shouldn't mess with the bootloader loading
[02:41] <BKTech86> escott: theres like a swap partition
[02:41] <escott> BKTech86, and swap as /dev/sda4 or /dev/sda6 or so
[02:41] <plummerb> I have to say, I like Ubuntu Classic much better than the new one...
[02:41] <BKTech86> escott: sda2 is like a folder that holds sda5 and sda ...
[02:42] <BKTech86> escott: some others
[02:42] <Desqwewehyhg> i need to run a couple of lines on terminal, at the start of Ubuntu ? How do i do that?
[02:42] <escott> BKTech86, yeah sounds normal
[02:42] <BKTech86> escott: sda2 is extended sda5 is ext4
[02:42] <robin0800> plummerb, I like unity 2d
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> Desqwewehyhg:  at boot time.. (no X needed>?) or when a usewr logs in?
[02:42] <kanuha> Is there a way to change the highlight color on the login screen?
[02:42] <plummerb> Robin: I don't appear to have that option at login...  :(
[02:42] <escott> BKTech86, so you don't get anything from grub. its like it never starts
[02:43] <BKTech86> escott: yeah exactly, the machine doesn't recognize my hard disk as bootable
[02:43] <Desqwewehyhg> Dr_Willis: it is for fixing the resolution
[02:43] <plummerb> Just getting my desktop back to normal would be all I need....
[02:43] <Desqwewehyhg> xrandr --addmode ... and other
[02:43] <Saamm> ok can someone tell me if this is happening to anyone else? Software Center Shows 0 Rating for Chromium...But when click on more info it shows 121 raqting...
[02:43] <[thor]> kanuha: your desktop's theme settings will determine the color/shape/etc of the login screen
[02:43] <escott> BKTech86, shouldn't matter but you could toggle the bootable flag on some partitions (namely 1 and 5
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> Desqwewehyhg:  for a single user. theres the Autorun directory in .config  (I think thats where its at now)
[02:43] <Dr_Willis> !autorun
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> !autostart
[02:44] <BKTech86> escott: with what
[02:44] <robin0800> plummerb, you have to install it ubuntu put classic in instead it will be in the next one i believe
[02:44] <escott> BKTech86, fdisk /dev/sda
[02:44] <Desqwewehyhg> but it is needed for all users
[02:44] <escott> BKTech86, i think bootable flag is "a" and then "w" to write the changes (don't touch anything else though)
[02:44] <plummerb> Ah, Unity didn't come with the update?
[02:44] <MadDecent> anyone know much about getting hdmi out to work on my netbook? I have a asus eeepc 1015n
[02:44] <Dr_Willis> Theres a system wide autostart dir also i belive.
[02:45] <BKTech86> escott: i'm looking at my ext4 partition in disk utility
[02:45] <h3iko> morning guys
[02:45] <BKTech86> escott: and i went to "Edit partition" and the bootable check box is not ticked
[02:45] <h3iko> anyone speak german in here?
[02:45] <escott> BKTech86, the bootable flag shouldn't matter to grub, but it cant hurt
[02:45] <BKTech86> escott: not to grub, but to the bios right?
[02:45] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: see any thing
[02:45] <Desqwewehyhg> Dr_Willis: maybe with a script on etc/init/ ????
[02:46] <robin0800> plummerb, unity 3d did 2d didn't
[02:46] <kanuha> thur, I changed the theme and changed the colors in the themes, but the highlight color is still orange on the login screen
[02:46] <BKTech86> escott: sda1 is marked as bootable
[02:46] <escott> BKTech86, yeah but the bios starts grub, it shouldn't even touch the partitions so it really shouldn't matter
[02:46] <h3iko> can someone please explain me what an GPG Failure is???
[02:46] <bazhang> !gpgerr | h3iko
[02:46] <BKTech86> escott: isn't grub installed on the disk?
[02:46] <Guest40708> Hi guys
[02:47] <bazhang> h3iko, signing error on the package
[02:47] <escott> BKTech86, thats what we just did, putting grub in the mbr
[02:47] <[thor]> kanuha: have you tried downloading gdm2setup?
[02:47] <BKTech86> escott: where is the mbr in the bios?
[02:47] <alex_> How do I open multiple terminals?
[02:47] <[thor]> kanuha: i'm not sure if it is in the repos, but it is on launchpad
[02:47] <alex_> Ubuntu 11.04 in Gnome 3
[02:47] <plummerb> So is Unity a Desktop Manager or a new X server?
[02:47] <escott> BKTech86, mbr is the first 512 bytes of the disk, not on the mbr
[02:47] <escott> not in the bios
[02:48] <h3iko> i've been told that my public key is not available...
[02:48] <PalinBachman2012> unity is a compiz plugin
[02:48] <Barzogh>     alex_  CTRL + ALT + T
[02:48] <alex_> Barzogh, cool, thanks
[02:48] <BKTech86> escott: but it seems like the problem is that the bios doesn't even try to look at grub
[02:48] <Barzogh> yw
[02:48] <BKTech86> escott: btw, this disk utility is hanging in applying those bootable flags
[02:48] <BKTech86> escott: any idea why?
[02:48] <BKTech86> escott: none of the partitions are mounted
[02:49] <escott> bios starts the mbr, mbr scans partition table, looks for the /boot partition, then starts running os. so bios is out of the picture as soon as grub starts
[02:49] <escott> BKTech86, don't know i generally don't use the gui
[02:49] <BKTech86> escott: do you know how from cli?
[02:50] <kanuha> thor, yeah dependencies not satisfiable
[02:50] <escott> BKTech86, fdisk /dev/sda "a" is the bootable flag "w" to write changes
[02:50] <kanuha> thor, it seems the ppa is broken for gdm2
[02:50] <scorch_> what package do i install to get all of the dvd and music codecs?
[02:50] <scorch_> or does it alreay come with natty
[02:51] <escott> BKTech86, what is your hardware?
[02:51] <BKTech86> escott: all of it?
[02:51] <aeon-ltd> !restricted | scorch_
[02:51] <gruyen> i am getting an error mounting one of my drives - "one or more block devices is holding /dev/sdc1" ...ideas?
[02:51] <[thor]> kanuha: :/ sorry friend, no idea about that.
[02:51] <BKTech86> escott: i have an intel core2 duo, sort of old intel motherboard,
[02:51] <tase> what was the reason Ubuntu switched from OpenOffice to LibreOffice ?
[02:52] <escott> BKTech86, just wondering if there was anything exotic sounds there isnt
[02:52] <kanuha> thor, no problem thx for trying
[02:52] <hiexpo> !libreoffice
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> tase:  due to the way Openoffice was being handled by Sun (and the company that now owns sun)
[02:52] <h3iko> bazhang - this means? could be caused by wine?
[02:52] <Dr_Willis> Factoid is out of dat4e now it seems. :)
[02:53] <escott> BKTech86, and its only the one disk right
[02:53] <[thor]> kanuha: you can always download & make the source
[02:53] <BKTech86> escott: yes 1 disk
[02:53] <tase> cool, ty Dr_Willis
[02:53] <stravant> ohsix: Is it possible to use amixer to set the muted state in a similar way to the GUI sound control? I looked up how to mute stuff from the command line but everything points to using "amixer sset "Master" toggle", however it appears I have no "Master" in amixer, just: http://pastebin.com/rMKUaexL
[02:53] <[thor]> kanuha: very painless
[02:53] <badraven> Hello
[02:54] <BKTech86> escott: how can i take off the bootable flag from a partition
[02:54] <OY1R> can anyone help me fix this boot up problem, i cannot boot Ubuntu 10.10 >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600969/
[02:54] <escott> BKTech86, its a toggle
[02:54] <cuddlefish> 11.04 is not compatible with my GPU
[02:54] <cuddlefish> sure wish it had told me that before I installed it...
[02:54] <carandraug> BKTech86, you can do it with cfdisk I think
[02:54] <steelgeek> quit
[02:54] <plummerb> Ok...  I guess my issue is not with Unity...  After upgrading to Ubuntu 11.04 my desktop icons are ENORMOUS and I can no longer click on them.
[02:54] <Kibo> Kevin147: It was a LOT of work and wait, but it worked. Natty Narwhal is running... ;) Thanks again!
[02:54] <scarra3> I'm having trouble deciding if I should stay with 11.04 or go back to windows
[02:55] <badraven> Can someone direct me to info about installing Windows along side ubuntu after unbuntu is installed?
[02:55] <carandraug> BKTech86, just do "sudo cfdisk /path-to-device" and be careful to just change the bootable flag
[02:55] <cuddlefish> well, my computer's basically a brick now
[02:55] <Kevin147> Kibo: Sweet!! Glad its working! np :)
[02:55] <cuddlefish> :(
[02:55] <escott> BKTech86, so when you reboot it just blinks at you?
[02:55] <BKTech86> carandraug: i did sudo fdisk /dev/sda; a; 5; w;
[02:55] <carandraug> cuddlefish, that's why there's LiveCD
[02:56] <hiexpo> badraven, it needs to be windoz first
[02:56] <carandraug> BKTech86, did it work?
[02:56] <cuddlefish> carandraug: it works on the LiveCD
[02:56] <badraven> I was hoping it wasn't going to be like that.
[02:56] <cuddlefish> carandraug: but after about 5 minutes of runtime
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | badraven
[02:56] <Gatorade> help, when trying to install wubi on my friends computer, pyrun yells at me. What can I do?
[02:56] <BKTech86> carandraug: it said unable to reload device settings or something like that -- new table will be used at reboot
[02:56] <BKTech86> just booted into ubuntu.......
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> badraven:  install windows to whatever free partions you have ready for it. reinstall grub loader.
[02:56] <plummerb> Ah HA!  I figured it out.  I'm using two monitors.  When I have both monitors on my desktop is stretched across both and no longer works correctly...
[02:57] <cuddlefish> carandraug: the screen is covered in horizontal lines. after that, all windows don't redraw
[02:57] <BKTech86> FINALLY --
[02:57] <badraven> What about booting from a second hard drive that is set up as the boot drive.  Then I would choose what drive to boot from.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> badraven:  you can make a rescue-grub booting flash drive. to make that 2nd task a littl easier.
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> badraven:  thats how i do it. each os has its own HD.
[02:57] <BKTech86> escott: i didn't even have a chance to see if grub showed up
[02:57] <escott> BKTech86, so its working now?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> badraven:  making sure windows does NOT write to the wrong MBR may be the problem. You could just Unplug the linux HD.
[02:57] <carandraug> cuddlefish, sorry about your bad experience. Can't help you with it, I only have a integrated intel graphic cards 8 years old
[02:57] <BKTech86> escott: yep, it shows up, and the windows option is there too
[02:57] <cuddlefish> carandraug: me too :(
[02:57] <BKTech86> phew
[02:57] <plummerb> When I just have one monitor on the desktop displays correctly.
[02:57] <carandraug> BKTech86, so what's the problem now?
[02:58] <badraven> Thanks Dr willins,  where can I get some info that covers that?
[02:58] <BKTech86> carandraug: problem . finally. solved.
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> plummerb:  there seems to be known issues on unity and 2+ monitors.
[02:58] <carandraug> BKTech86, ok. Good to know
[02:58] <BKTech86> thank you sooooo much both of you...
[02:58] <raymondjtoth> bazhang: you still here
[02:58] <AndroUser> Hi guy I heard you could run all the.windows apps and android apps on ubuntu so I got it. Now how do I install all my windowd and android alls
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> badraven:  if you Unplug the linux hd.. then you just install windows normally. No special stuff needed.
[02:58] <plummerb> Dr: There does eh?
[02:58] <escott> im getting really confused by all these grub boot failures. seems if you fiddle with the partition table things start to magically work. anyone else noticed that?
[02:58] <carandraug> AndroUser, you heard wrong
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> AndroUser:  i think you have heard wrong. WINE lets you run MANY windows apps.. as for android apps.  we...
[02:59] <Dr_Willis> AndroUser:  theres proberly some ways to  do it. in an emulator or somthing.
[02:59] <BKTech86> escott: i don't think the bios even attempted to access the mbr because the partition wasn't marked as bootable?
[02:59] <escott> hhjjff, you can get the android emulator
[02:59] <BKTech86> escott: of course i am way in over my head lol
[02:59] <badraven> Ok, thank you.
[03:00] <kaushal> hi
[03:00] <escott> BKTech86, bioses can do weird things... although it shouldn't be doing that
[03:00] <[thor]> Dr_Willis/hhjjff: the android emulator is basically a VM
[03:00] <escott> hhjjff, but its a developer tool not a "I want to use this as a real app" tool
[03:00] <kaushal> is there a way to know the speed of a USB Mobile Broadband 3G GSM ?
[03:01] <hiexpo> kaushal, go to speedtest.net or speakeasy
[03:01] <jprobe> Hi, all, does anyone know where I can get ahold of an AMD64 Lucid torrent?  It's not on the ubuntu.com website.  =(
[03:01] <kaushal> hiexpo: i know it
[03:02] <kaushal> from the desktop
[03:02] <uhuhuh> Hello, how can I configure my application panel? I want to delete some items from it.
[03:02] <escott> jprobe, doubt there are any seeds
[03:02] <hiexpo> kaushal, speedometer
[03:02] <hhjjff> Hi guys
[03:02] <carandraug> jprobe, you sure? Try a torrent search engine. Yous hould be able to find it on isohunt
[03:02] <keithclark> I have just installed xmame and gmameui and upon starting it is asking where the mame executables are.  I have no idea where to find them!
[03:03] <hiexpo> !xmame
[03:03] <DK_2> Hi all! Do "bisigi themes" work in natty 11.04? theres no repo past maverick and wondered about being gnome based or something.
[03:03] <[thor]> keithclark: in a terminal window "locate <searchterm>"
[03:04] <Juest> hi
[03:04] <carandraug> jprobe, I just searched therer and found it. You want the desktop, server or alternate version?
[03:04] <escott> keithclark, or `which mame`
[03:04] <kaushal> hiexpo: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/601100/
[03:05] <uhuhuh> Hello, I installed a windows software with wine. But after I remove it, some icons still left in my system application menu of unity panel. How can I delete them? I'm using 11.04 now. Thanks
[03:05] <Juest> uhuhuh: ask in #ubuntu+1 please
[03:05] <keithclark> [thor], My problem is I have no idea what the 'mame executable' will be named. What extension?
[03:05] <bazhang> Juest, thats not right
[03:05] <[thor]> Juest: 11.04 just rolled out, this is the place to be.
[03:05] <Juest> oh, sorry
[03:05] <Juest> wow!
[03:06] <carandraug> Juest, 11.04 already cmae out. He's asking on the right place
[03:06] <bazhang> Juest, natty has been released so it is supported here in #ubuntu
[03:06] <Juest> also 10.10?
[03:06] <[thor]> keithclark: just try ' mame ' as a searchterm
[03:06] <Juest> don't know, a bit older
[03:06] <uhuhuh> Juest: What do you mean? irc channel #ubuntu+1?
[03:06] <DK_2> #ubuntu+1 is invite only
[03:06] <bazhang> uhuhuh, ignore that
[03:06] <escott> keithclark, it won't have an extension it will just be called mame
[03:06] <Juest> uhuhuh: don't worry, 11.04 supported here, i was wrong
[03:07] <escott> keithclark, or have mame in the name
[03:07] <hiexpo> kaushal, and those are the man pages so wanna know your download speed  sudo speedometer -rx yourinterface
[03:07] <uhuhuh> Oh, thanks. But I still want to know how to solve my problem. Could someone give me some suggestions? Many thanks.
[03:08] <Juest> how do i remove the entire gnome, is a bad one, because i installed gnome3 (no PPAs) and the gnome is unusable
[03:08] <bazhang> uhuhuh, this is classic or unity
[03:08] <escott> uhuhuh, have you deleted your .wine directory
[03:08] <keithclark> [thor], ok, it only brought up an icon file and a file called gmameui.desktop.  Somehow I don't think these are executables
[03:08] <Laggg1> hello
[03:08] <uhuhuh> bazhang: unity
[03:08] <carandraug> uhuhuh, on the previous versions there was a "main menu" on the preferences where you could remove the entries from the menu. Not sure on 11.04 but shouldn't be too diferent
[03:08] <Juest> and i can't remove gnome things
[03:08] <Laggg1> I have upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and I have lost my GRUB
[03:08] <Laggg1> Im in a live CD right now
[03:08] <jprobe> carandraug, I see it now.  I was looking to zsync my 11.04 and was looking in the alt download section and didn't see the amd64 10.04 desktop, but apparently it's a main option on the desktop download page.  Thanks!
[03:08] <DK_2> Do "bisigi themes" work in natty 11.04?
[03:08] <Laggg1> I've mounted my SDA1
[03:09] <Laggg1> but I uh, cant seem to go on with the right commands
[03:09] <Juest> where i can edit grub static configuration?
[03:09] <carandraug> jprobe, no problem
[03:09] <Laggg1> chroot isnt working
[03:09] <uhuhuh> carandraug: Yes, I delete it from the main menu in the preferences. But it still in unity panel.
[03:09] <bluefoxicy> does anyone know how to edit file associations
[03:09] <doobien> when i am using compiz, it only lets me select 1 desktop - anybody ever have that problem?
[03:09] <bluefoxicy> I need to permanently and completely remove all references to one
[03:09] <bluefoxicy> particularly, after I upgraded to 11.04, SOMEHOW my system did something retarded
[03:09] <bluefoxicy> and now whenever something attempts to open a folder, it opens WITH VLC
[03:10] <Juest> how do i force compiz to enable anyway?
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> so load old style gnome
[03:10] <Laggg1> Can anyone help me solve this grub_rescue problem since I upgraded to 11.04?
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> places->Home Folder
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> my home folder opens in VLC
[03:10] <bluefoxicy> I cannot find the configuration file contaning this
[03:10] <tase> i created a usb live cd with 2gb of storage for ubuntu 10.10, did apt-get upgrade and now i've run out of space? even if the update size was 256mb downloaded, 55mb taken ?
[03:10] <escott> Laggg1, sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu; sudo mount /dev/sda# /mnt/ubuntu/boot (if you have a /boot partition); sudo chroot /mnt/ubuntu; sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[03:10] <bobopolos>  i set up a bridge in linux with brctl, i can ping both sides of the bridge from linux, and ping the linux machine from each side, but cant ping accros (from one side of the bridge to the other). any suggestions?
[03:10] <carandraug> uhuhuh, oh! I haven't tried unity yet so can't help you with that. Maybe it'll update the list when you restart unity. Try log out and log back in
[03:10] <Juest> anybody read my iusses?
[03:10] <MadDecent> does anyone know anything about getting HDMI out working on a netbook? I'm on a Asus EeePC 1015N running 11.04
[03:11] <escott> Laggg1, sorry left out two... after mount onto /mnt/ubuntu but before chroot mount --bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev and the same for /proc
[03:11] <uhuhuh> carandraug: Let me try. Thank you.
[03:11] <Juest> why ALSA/Pulseaudio is not working?
[03:11] <Laggg1> escott?
[03:11] <hiexpo> Juest, fast channel right now whatissues you have ?
[03:11] <Laggg1> How would the commands go, proper order?
[03:11] <jorgp> mount proc non /mnt/ubuntu/proc ; mount --rbind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev
[03:11] <jorgp> non/none
[03:12] <Juest> hiexpo, may i pm you for iusses?
[03:12] <escott> Laggg1, make the mountpoint, mount the partition (you've done that) bind mount /dev with sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/ubuntu/dev and /proc sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/ubuntu/proc then chroot
[03:12] <sancas> hello!!
[03:12] <scorch_> reduce icon size unity desktop????
[03:13] <sancas> i have a problem
[03:13] <scorch_> anyone know how to do that?
[03:13] <delu> Hi, after switching over to Natty, my AWN dock no longer seems to have space reserved for it at the edge of the desktop. When I open or maximize windows, they go under the dock. How can I change the settings so that they avoid the dock? I use Compiz
[03:13] <carandraug> !problem | sancas
[03:13] <jforman> hi all. i just upgraded to 11.04 on the desktop and i am seeing that whenever i drag a window by the title bar between monitors (i am running dual head with twinview), it always wants to maximize when i release the mounse. how can i turn this behavior off?
[03:13] <hiexpo> Juest, sure
[03:13] <sancas> i configure compiz cube with 11.04 and kabum! my ubuntu die :(
[03:13] <Laggg1> mount point /mnt/ubuntu/dev does not exist
[03:13] <keithclark> Ok, another tact....is there an irc channel for gmameui?
[03:13] <sancas> the windows manager i cant show it
[03:14] <bazhang> !alis | keithclark
[03:14] <bitplane> jforman, both behaviours should work together. works for me anyway
[03:14] <escott> Laggg1, you have to adjust that to where you mounted your ubuntu system (check by running mount)
[03:14] <jforman> bitplane: work together meaning, that if i have one, i must have the other? (i want dual monitors, but not the behavior that dragging the title bar maximizes it)
[03:14] <keithclark> bazhang, thanks, searched and none found.
[03:15] <sroy2> Hi - I am using apache to host 2 domains on 127.0.0.1:80 and nginx to reverse proxy them out on my ip 1.2.3.4:80. I was wondering how I had to modify the /etc/hosts to allow both domains to be put on both ips?
[03:15] <jorgp> interesting, unity will not run in a virtualbox?
[03:15] <bitplane> jforman: no I mean if you drag all the way to the left or right you go to the next desktop, if you almost touch the edge you get the Win7 style window half-maximized thing
[03:15] <Laggg1> escott: chroot: failed to run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory
[03:15] <escott> jorgp, not without guest addiytions
[03:15] <sebsebseb> jorgp: yes it does if set up right
[03:16] <sebsebseb> escott: jorgp no you don't just install the guest additions for it either,  hold on i'll get a proper link or two
[03:16] <sebsebseb> escott: jorgp a proper link
[03:16] <escott> Laggg1, can you pastebin the output of mount and the output of ls /mnt/blah where blah is what the folder where you mounted your ubuntu system
[03:16] <jorgp> thanks
[03:16] <fillayu> what's the package name of the default firefox? I want to upgrade firefox 4.0.1
[03:16] <jforman> bitplane: ahh, think i found my issue... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743309. thank goodness. appreciate your help
[03:16] <sebsebseb> jorgp: What's your host OS by the way?
[03:16] <Laggg1> im supposed to do this to the ubuntu system?
[03:16] <heyguise> hey
[03:16] <jorgp> osx
[03:17] <Laggg1> Im doing this to the Win7 HDD
[03:17] <Laggg1> I have two seperate HDDs.
[03:17] <keithclark> Ok, one last try.  Does anyone know how to setup gmameui in Ubuntu?
[03:17] <heyguise> what is zeitgiest-datahub zeitgiest-daemon and zeitgiest-datah
[03:17] <heyguise> ?
[03:17] <Laggg1> Am I supposed to mount the ubuntu HDD?
[03:17] <escott> Laggg1, yes you mount the ubuntu system, chroot into it, and then install grub to the mbr of the disk
[03:18] <sebsebseb> jorgp: ok well follow these instructions and it should work I guess:  http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/
[03:18] <sebsebseb> http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/
[03:18] <jorgp> thanks
[03:18] <KM0201> !de | heyguise
[03:18] <brz> Hey -- I installed a program in ubuntu, and messed up the .conf file, so I uninstalled it, and 'rm -r <dir>, to delete old .conf files, now when I install it again via apt-get, the directory is empty, anyone kno why this would be?
[03:18] <sebsebseb> jorgp: ok sure good luck with that,  and I hope you try out quite a few distro's in vm :)
[03:18] <xsinick_laptop> are we getting ubuntu 12  fix for Natty
[03:18] <xsinick_laptop> ?
[03:18] <heyguise> Sorry...  Idont speak german?
[03:19] <KM0201> heyguise: what you posted, looks like german
[03:19] <jorgp> sebsebseb: I have gentoo is working fine, just wanted to try out natty
[03:19] <sebsebseb> jorgp: ok :)
[03:19] <heyguise> its a german word yes. It means spirit of the times...but I'm asking what these processes are because they make me paranoid.
[03:20] <teknowill> the guy was just telling people where channels where
[03:20] <teknowill> de channels
[03:20] <sebsebseb> !!de
[03:20] <teknowill> german
[03:20] <teknowill> i think it's a bot though, just to help them find it
[03:21] <twoten> Help! I just upgraded to Natty and I've lost all my window borders and decorations - I have clicked away at ccsm and emerald but it will not come up
[03:21] <trism> heyguise: zeitgeist keeps track of recently used files for the unity files and folders lens
[03:21] <sebsebseb> !bot | teknowill
[03:21] <twoten> I'm using the Ubuntu Classic Gnoem desktop
[03:21] <carandraug> heyguise, I think it allows to search for files based on modification date
[03:21] <trism> heyguise: if you install the gnome-activity-journal and log out/back in you can run it and see what zeitgeist keeps track of
[03:21] <heyguise> Ahh, thank you guys.
[03:21] <heyguise> It looked like a RAT i saw once.
[03:21] <heyguise> so i started to get paranoid
[03:21] <varunvyas> HI, I was trying to upgread to 11.04, after downloading packages it stuck in installing packages and my machine swiched off due to power failure. now when I am trying to upgread it says partial upgread and that to  failing.
[03:21] <varunvyas> please help
[03:22] <cylinc> Hello, is the ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso can be directly used to make a live usb, just dd if=iso of=/dev/sdb ?
[03:22] <carandraug> heyguise, makes searches faster because it shows first the files and applications you used more frequently on the last times
[03:22] <bitplane> twoten, sounds like Compiz has died. open a command prompt and type "killall compiz; setsid compiz --replace"
[03:22] <xion56> its there more winamp styled gui for ubuntu than audacious and xmms?
[03:22] <xsinick_laptop> is there a new reissuing?
[03:22] <sebsebseb> !imfo celementine
[03:22] <kpoman> hey guys ! I think I solved my issue (fglrx incompatibility) ... how do I enable desktop effects on 11.04 ? they seem disabled
[03:22] <carandraug> xion56, as far as I know no. xmms2 is a completely different thing by the way
[03:23] <sebsebseb> xion56: try clementine yeah the name of that fruit :D
[03:23] <genesis> hi
[03:23] <Spaz_Dynamic> so I've got a headless 10.10 installation, how can I enable another repository (canonical partners specifically) to make sure that java is is the correct version?
[03:23] <bitplane> varunvyas: I recommend archiving your /home/youruser directory and saving it somewhere, then reinstalling from scratch
[03:23] <kpoman> is there somewhere to enable desktop effects ?
[03:23] <sebsebseb> xion56: there's a music player called that, and it's pretty good
[03:23] <escott> kpoman, if it doesn't come back on logout login try unity --replace
[03:23] <mistervinblack> how there.., ca anyone tell me how to install vpn on ubuntu???
[03:23] <bitplane> kpoman, press left super and type ccsm"
[03:24] <bitplane> *ccsm
[03:24] <carandraug> mistervinblack, which one?
[03:24] <xsinick_laptop> is this how ubuntu will be from here on?
[03:24] <Nighthwk> Can anyone tell me on to add widgets on the toolbar on ubuntu 11.0
[03:24] <cylinc> I failed to boot from USB just execute "dd if=ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=8M",which /dev/sdb1 has been set bootable with fat16 fs
[03:24] <kpoman> bitplane: did that, saw my 4 desktops
[03:24] <[segfault]> My google-fu is weak tonight... anyone know of a quick way to restore my emerald themes after Maverick to Natty upgrade?  running 'emerald --replace' causes a segfault.  :(
[03:24] <sebsebseb> xsinick_laptop: Is what how Ubuntu will be from now on?
[03:24] <mistervinblack> give me the link please, I'm new in ubuntu :)
[03:24] <Spaz_Dynamic> I might also note that I'm connected via PuTTY SSH, if that matters or not
[03:25] <varunvyas> update manager is closing when I click on upgread
[03:25] <xsinick_laptop> nightwk
[03:25] <Nighthwk> yes?
[03:25] <Juest> mistervinblack: READ THE TOPIC!
[03:25] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: I imagine it will get better, Unity is Canonical's way of making their own desktop experience without having to go through the design by committee method of open source design. so I guess we'll get a slicker desktop experience in future
[03:25] <mistervinblack> okay.., I'm sorry :)
[03:25] <carandraug> mistervinblack, there's several kinds of VPN. And I'm assuming you want to connect to someplace through VPN and not install a VPN server yourself
[03:25] <xsinick_laptop> you can not add  widgets
[03:25] <bitplane> if you don't like it then go back to gnome desktop manager or install kubuntu
[03:25] <loculinux> h
[03:25] <izinucs> Spaz_Dynamic: check out /etc/sources.list or sources.lst.. forgot.. that's where your repos are listed.. it should be there but commented out.. just remove the comments
[03:25] <Nighthwk> So they took it out?
[03:25] <sebsebseb> heyguise: or the Gnome ppa or something :D
[03:26] <sebsebseb> uh competly wrong one
[03:26] <sebsebseb> bitplane: or the Gnome 3 ppa or something
[03:26] <kpoman> bitplane: see here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/desktopeffects ... they talk about a visual effects option in appearance. I dont have that option !!!
[03:26] <izinucs> kpoman: in unity?  they are on by default.. install compiz-config-settings-manager and tweek from there.
[03:27] <bitplane> kpoman, use Compiz Config instead. all the options are in there
[03:27] <escott> kpoman, try compiz &
[03:27] <mistervinblack> i see, thanks for your info.., I'm still reading for vpn articles
[03:27] <bitplane> kpoman, if you're using Unity 3d (the default) then you have desktop effects enabled anyway
[03:27] <xsinick_laptop> Anyone here that likes the new Natty is a mac  user or a twitter generation under 20
[03:27] <kpoman> izinucs: I think I dont use unity ... dont know why. I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 and dont see any desktop difference apart from no effects
[03:28] <carandraug> !vpn | mistervinblack
[03:28] <mistervinblack> whois escott
[03:28] <kpoman> izinucs: is there something to do to get unity ?
[03:28] <Kage> !tx
[03:28] <mistervinblack> thanks ubottu & carandraug
[03:28] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: yeah and anyone who uses a GUI just can't handle the command line and doesn't have a beard or smell of wee
[03:28] <xsinick_laptop> I like seeing my file menu and it be part of my window
[03:29] <carandraug> mistervinblack, ubottu is a bot. You ask him stuff with commands, for example !vpn and he'll tell you about it
[03:29] <xsinick_laptop> I like adding widgets that show my cpu s and weather realtime
[03:29] <kpoman> oops started unity as root and that stuffed it all
[03:29] <xsinick_laptop> I also like proper dual screen support
[03:29] <sumyunguy> how do I update from 10.10 to natty?
[03:30] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: what do you mean by "proper dual screen support"?
[03:30] <Delicates> Anyone can recommend a dual-band PCI-Express 802.11n card/chipset that supports both 2.4GHz and 5GHz?
[03:30] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: I've got 3 screens here, works okay for me (so long as primary output is the leftmost monitor, which is a bug)
[03:30] <IanLiu> I cannot login in my Ubuntu anymore. I select my user, type the password in, but the screen returns to the login. Can anyone help me solving this problem?
[03:30] <xsinick_laptop> sumyunguy:  please do not you will chuck your mouse at you computer screen
[03:30] <mistervinblack> !vpn and he'll tell you about it
[03:30] <sumyunguy> LOL
[03:30] <Sengoku> hey
[03:31] <Sengoku> just hopped on ubuntu 11.. wireless went away
[03:31] <sumyunguy> X: why?
[03:31] <Kage> is there a channel ubuntu kernel issues?
[03:31] <xsinick_laptop> bitplane:  please install blender and tell me how it behaves for you
[03:31] <Juest> kage, this is the support channel for all
[03:31] <carandraug> mistervinblack, no. Just enter "!vpn"
[03:31] <mistervinblack> ok
[03:32] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: report any bugs to all relevant parties
[03:32] <mistervinblack> !vpn
[03:32] <NictraSavios> Hmm, long time no see. I've been shifted within the team, so now I have to use Windows.... oh well, 2 months then osx, then 2 months then Linux :P BUT. I still have all my linux knowledge and will continue to help :)
[03:32] <gtlarue> so, "movie player" is the culprit of my audio issues
[03:32] <xsinick_laptop> bitplane:  i like to complain live and have it yeild no results
[03:32] <gtlarue> after I run it, all the audio on the machine gets choppy and distorted, and I have to reboot to make it normal again
[03:32] <NictraSavios> Hmm, any open issues mentioned before i came?
[03:32] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: haha okay
[03:32] <varunvyas> please help
[03:32] <Sengoku> can someone help me with wireless
[03:33] <Kage> I get a "tx refused but queue active" crash
[03:33] <NictraSavios> varunvyas, I can help
[03:33] <izinucs> Ok.. so what's the verdict on a system with dual monitors.. is natty ok or more difficult to be productive?
[03:33] <carandraug> mistervinblack, there's a lot of commands. You can ask him on a private window to not fill the channel
[03:33] <jorgp> sebsebseb: unity working good now. thank
[03:33] <jorgp> thanks
[03:33] <varunvyas> My upgread to 11.04 stuck while ins talling
[03:33] <sebsebseb> jorgp: ok awesome :) and your welcome
[03:33] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Go to terminal , run "lspci | grep -i network" and paste the results to paste bin
[03:33] <NictraSavios> !pastebin | Sengoku
[03:33] <bitplane> izinucs: no real difference here IMO, also when I was on beta 1 I just used GDM instead because of an ATI driver bug. choose ubuntu classic at login and you get the old desktop
[03:33] <sebsebseb> jorgp: and yeah this is a great way to try out Unity, since don't need to put Ubuntu on real hardware as a result :)
[03:34] <plummerb> Alright, posted my Desktop stretching issue to the Ask Ubuntu site.  Hope someone knows if there is a fix...
[03:34] <NictraSavios> varunvyas, What step is it on?
[03:34] <Sengoku> 0b:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) , NictraSavios
[03:34] <gartral> i have a laptop that has an *insane* battery.. it lasts about 9 hours. the indicator turns red.. at around 2:40 hours left.. how do i change that?
[03:34] <plummerb> Good night all.  Have a good weekend....
[03:34] <varunvyas> installing
[03:34] <xsinick_laptop> varunvyas: I told you guys this new edition is not good
[03:34] <bitplane> izinucs: you get the win7 style window resizing thing which is cool, you can have two partially maximized windows per screen
[03:34] <jorgp> sebsebseb: yp, works great with osx and virtualbox
[03:34] <NictraSavios> Sengokiu, Did you check to see if its supported or not?
[03:34] <izinucs> bitplane: if you go the upgrade route (provided it actually works) do your "bar" setups still remain?
[03:34] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: it worked on ubuntu 10
[03:34] <scorch_> has anyone had luck installing dropbox to 11.04?
[03:34] <mistervinblack> thanks
[03:35] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Thats great, But thats not your issue :P Must be a regression. One sec.
[03:35] <trism> scorch_: yes, it works fine
[03:35] <xsinick_laptop> scorch_:  my point exactly
[03:35] <plummerb> Watch out for those insane batteries...  They can do strange things...  LOL
[03:35] <Spaz_Dynamic> I forget, was Lucid a LTS release?
[03:35] <izinucs> bitplane: yes.. on natty.. ctrl+alt+4 or 6
[03:35] <MaMaGoody> hi, can I choose workspace by putting some applet in statusbar in new ubuntu?
[03:35] <NictraSavios> varunvyas, :P Click "Show details"
[03:35] <Kage> what file determines which modules get loaded?
[03:35] <bitplane> izinucs: I'm not sure, do you mean the GDM panel things? I was using AWN with no bottom bar and that was exactly the same after I upgraded
[03:35] <Laggg> Escott, im stuck at grub rescue screen
[03:35] <varunvyas> also when I restarted, my box and tried to run, it says not able to get exclusive lock close all apt. I checked in ps but there's no up running
[03:35] <MK``> Are releases like 10.04.1, that have been superseded by 10.04.2, supported, or is only the most recent point release supported?
[03:35] <izinucs> bitplane: yes
[03:35] <xsinick_laptop> to be honest the ui design is seriously flawed
[03:36] <escott> Laggg, ok so you got grub to load, but its not giving you a menu
[03:36] <scorch_> trism: me no go, its stuck at 97% unpack
[03:36] <frankcox777> hi everyone
[03:36] <sebsebseb> xsinick_laptop: the people who run this channel, don't like people complaining about Unity in here
[03:36] <Laggg> Yeah grub.env.export not found
[03:36] <varunvyas> so what should I do to rerun upgread :(
[03:36] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Broadcom_BCM4311_rev_01_%28ndiswrapper%29
[03:37] <sebsebseb> xsinick_laptop: however loads of good atlerantives.  Gnome Shell the proper interface for Gnome 3, and so on :)
[03:37] <Juest> ok, where i can find the static grub configuration?
[03:37] <xsinick_laptop> sebsebseb: that's why it is the way it is and the main userbase is getting pissed off about it
[03:37] <bitplane> sebsebseb: tough shit, change something as huge as teh default desktop experience and people are bound to complain. specially when people have customized gdm for years and it all stops working
[03:37] <frankcox777> I cannot get cable working in new install of Ubuntu 10.4 -the same cable works on 9.4
[03:37] <Toph> i just upgraded to 11.04 and i can't log in. I have logged in successfully in safe mode
[03:37] <truepurple> Anyone here know anything about ATI/AMD video drivers for ubuntu?
[03:37] <sebsebseb> bitplane: yeah indeed I know
[03:37] <bitplane> Toph, what happens?
[03:37] <Juest> and how do i add new users to sudoers list?
[03:37] <NictraSavios> varunvyas, It sounds like your install went screwy. I could help you fix it for hours, butyour best bet is to backup all your data, and do a fresh install
[03:37] <NictraSavios> brb.
[03:37] <escott> Laggg, well you can do a minimal boot as set root (hd1,#) linux /boot/vmlinuz-??? root=/dev/sdb#
[03:37] <Laggg> escott maybe its looking in the wrong spot?
[03:37] <Juest> because i can't use vi/visudo
[03:37] <sebsebseb> bitplane: and I don't like Unity much myself really, but still what I just said
[03:37] <IdleOne> bitplane: keep the language clean please
[03:37] <carandraug> Juest, you must run visudo
[03:38] <gartral> i have a laptop that has an *insane* battery.. it lasts about 9 hours. the indicator turns red.. at around 2:40 hours left.. how do i change that?
[03:38] <Sengoku> k fforget this distro
[03:38] <escott> Laggg, initrd /boot/initrd.img????; boot
[03:38] <Sengoku> i'm going back to ubuntu 10
[03:38] <Sengoku> this is so weird
[03:38] <xAndromeda> does anybody know how i can resize the application launcher? it looks ugly as fck fullscreen
[03:38] <escott> Laggg, thats 4 commands total
[03:38] <Toph> bitplane,,, i get to the login screen with my name and all, I enter my password, screen goes blank for some seconds and returns to the login screen
[03:38] <sumyunguy> If I want to install unity in 10.10 desktop, do I install the netbook version?
[03:38] <sebsebseb> xsinick_laptop: yep indeed I know, but well should be a good thing for other desktop envrionments and other distro's, so not that big a deal really :)
[03:38] <NictraSavios> back.
[03:38] <escott> Laggg, you can use ls to fill in the details on the version numbers
[03:38] <Juest> toph: how did you installed the system?
[03:38] <carandraug> Juest, you can try with a normal text editor but then there'll be no check after editing. And you may end up with an unusable sudo conf file
[03:38] <bitplane> Toph, have you tried using the "Ubuntu Classic" option from the drop-down at the bottom of the screen? sounds like Unity is crashing
[03:38] <izinucs> xAndromeda: install compiz-config-settings manager and do it there.. click on the "unity" plugin
[03:39] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Hmm, too complex? If you want i can help walk you through it.
[03:39] <gartral> Toph: sounds like your out of free space in /home
[03:39] <Toph> Juest,,, i upgraded
[03:39] <xsinick_laptop> sebsebseb:  ok you got me there lol
[03:39] <escott> Laggg, since you have two drives there is always the possibility that you are booting a grub on the wrong mbr
[03:39] <Toph> bitplane,,, i haven't
[03:39] <izinucs> xAndromeda: but be aware that it will only go to 1/2 screen :(
[03:39] <ZenGuy311>  does unity work with intel on board graphics?
[03:39] <escott> Laggg, so I always recommend installing grub to both mbrs
[03:39] <truepurple> Anyone here know anything about ATI/AMD video drivers for ubuntu?
[03:39] <Juest> carandraug: how does that check work?
[03:39] <izinucs> ZenGuy311: yes
[03:39] <Toph> gardar,,, i can check that
[03:39] <NictraSavios> ZenGuy311, If it supports openGL , yep.
[03:39] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: my Guake is all messed up.. I can't alt-tab :S
[03:39] <Name141> Is there something else like super_pi you can use to benchmark the CPU and tell how fast it is instead of just stressing it ?
[03:39] <ZenGuy311> izinucs: thanks
[03:39] <FoolsRun> can you run both Unity and Unity-2d on the same system?
[03:39] <Juest> and what's the syntax?
[03:39] <sumyunguy> join #ayatana
[03:39] <bitplane> truepurple: I'm using ATI gfx, can't say I know much about it other than it mostly just works. what do you need to know?
[03:39] <escott> Laggg, which you could do from either a chroot or if you can get a boot from the rescue prompt
[03:40] <izinucs> FoolsRun: yes.. but unity-2d looks like the old gnome
[03:40] <carandraug> Juest, I don't know. After editing the file, before saving, visudo checks if there's something wrong and if there is, it doesn't save
[03:40] <Sengoku> why would they disable alt-tab :S
[03:40] <izinucs> old gnome ... lol
[03:40] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Hmm, hate to say it, but yea. 10.10 or LTS will work. If you want my opinion. Unity isnt worth it yet, wait till 12.04 or mabey 11.10.
[03:40] <truepurple> bitplane: I need to know which driver option is best for a radeon 6850
[03:40] <Toph> bitplane,,, let me try ubuntu classic
[03:40] <sebsebseb> xsinick_laptop: we are getting a bit off topic here, but really that's what Ubuntu is now, a first stepping stone distro for many people straight from Windows or Mac OS X, and many will move on to another distro later on :)  Linux Mint would be another example lf this.   at the end of the day, they are all Destkop Linux though, and that's wht I care about :)
[03:40] <xAndromeda> izinucs: i dont see it... O.o
[03:40] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: i'm going back to kde 3.5
[03:40] <carandraug> Juest, but to tell the true, I'm fairly confident on my skills at editing the sudoers file and always use nano or gedit
[03:40] <bitplane> truepurple: oh, can't help you there, I have a 5970 and chose the default driver from the notification in the notification bar
[03:40] <Juest> carandraug: i am not a vi user, so i can't use visudo :(
[03:40] <NictraSavios> sebsebseb, Unless your grandma. Then you dont care. Thats what Ubuntu is about. A Distro for all.
[03:41] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: so i have to do a full format?
[03:41] <jorgp> sebsebseb: I can not wait to see what gnome 3 will look like
[03:41] <Juest> i need that check
[03:41] <xsinick_laptop> why is blender spanning two workspaces  even in classic mode on my dual screens
[03:41] <xsinick_laptop> this makes my sooo very angery
[03:41] <truepurple> bitplane: I can install through a terminal command, additional drivers, or download the driver off of ATIs site
[03:41] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Not a full, i would just format your root , dont worry about your home. (But it may screw things up, so if you want to be 100%, go for it :) )
[03:41] <xAndromeda> izinucs: if its under i looked in behavior and experimental and both dont seem to have a related setting
[03:41] <Juest> carandraug: ^^^^^
[03:41] <lordofthedance> can anyone tell me what the heck ive done: i am using a 21" screen with a widescreen resolution and i plugged in a 15" screen just to play around and i clicked detect monitors and a prompt came up recommending auto detect resolution sizes and now i cant set my main monitor above 1024x768 even after removing the smaller monitor and rebooting. does anyone have any suggestions? i feel like im missing something simple
[03:41] <MagusOTB> What's the command-line thing to upgrade to 11.04?
[03:41] <sumyunguy> If I want to install unity in 10.10 desktop, do I install the netbook version?
[03:41] <xsinick_laptop> every thing I luanch it I have to manually resize that sh** ?
[03:41] <truepurple> bitplane: Notification in notification bar? What do you mean?
[03:41] <xsinick_laptop> :(
[03:41] <Sengoku> sumyunguy: no you don't
[03:41] <hiexpo> Juest, replace nano with vi
[03:41] <xsinick_laptop> wahhhhh
[03:41] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Unless you have the same / and /home partitions. The yes. Full.
[03:42] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: i do :(
[03:42] <sumyunguy> OK what do I do?
[03:42] <carandraug> Juest, I feel your pain bro. I'm not one either
[03:42] <izinucs> xAndromeda: humm.. I could have sworn it was there.. I changed mine last week.. maybe someone here will be able to chime in.
[03:42] <truepurple> bitplane: Do you use 11.04?
[03:42] <sebsebseb> NictraSavios: no it's not for everyone, but uhmm well me,  you,  jorgp and xsinick_laptop and anyone else who wants to continue this subject, we should move in that case to #ubuntu-offtopic or IdleOne may tell us off
[03:42] <ZenGuy311> lordofthedance: maybe you have mirror monitos on and the settings of the smaller monitor is still enabled
[03:42] <Laggg> Escott whats the command to boot? Room is too fast
[03:42] <MagusOTB> I remember it being not apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:42] <lordofthedance> zenguy311 any idea how to disable?
[03:42] <bitplane> truepurple: the additional drivers notification that pops up after you install. I suggest trying that first, if it doesn't work then remove the drivers using apt-get from the command line and try another option
[03:42] <sumyunguy> @sengoku what should I do?
[03:42] <lordofthedance> i did try that setting
[03:42] <Laggg> Pm me the cmd plz
[03:42] <ZenGuy311> go to monitors and uncheck mirror mononitors
[03:42] <lordofthedance> it seemed to not work tho
[03:42] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Back it up, If you dont have a speical harddrive or partitions for backup, DVD-DL or DVD-R work great. USB Keys break every second month for me. I have disks that have backups from when i was 12.
[03:43] <xAndromeda> izinucs: kk thx anyways! i have a 2600x1200 screen and having it take my entire screen is just the most annoying thing on earth
[03:43] <Laggg> Will <3 u 4 evar lol
[03:43] <Toph> bitplane,,, Ubuntu Classic works
[03:43] <sebsebseb> bitplane: #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to continue the convo :)
[03:43] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, So USB Backup = 2 months. DVD = 5+ Years.
[03:43] <FoolsRun> RE above: I don't think Ubuntu will be a stepping stone to other distros any more than Windows is a stepping stone to other Linux distros. Some people just like a desktop operating system
[03:43] <truepurple> bitplane: Try what first? My card was already in my system before I installed ubuntu
[03:44] <lordofthedance> is there anyway to get ubuntu to check my monitor for max resolution settings? it doesnt seem to be a mirror issue
[03:44] <cardamon> Anyone know how I would switch from Unity 3D to Unity 2D?
[03:44] <linux> http://www.ubuntu.com
[03:44] <carandraug> Juest, I was reading visudo man page and it seems you can ask to use another text editor such as nano
[03:44] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Wait till ubuntu comes preloaded on Dell pcs. Then its windows all over again. Nobody knows there was a windows in 100 years. Cus everyone will use Linux.
[03:44] <FoolsRun> cardamon: sudo apt-get install unity-2d     then choose unity-2d from the session menu at login
[03:44] <NictraSavios> carandraug, Juest . Run EDITOR=gedit visudo
[03:44] <Juest> and, i don't know how to use nano, maybe emacs?
[03:45] <Juest> ok
[03:45] <linux> l do not know.
[03:45] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: how is that a bad thing?
[03:45] <Juest> thanks NictraSavios :)
[03:45] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Cus then nobody will know the differance. Nobody will remember us.
[03:45] <carandraug> Juest, everyone knows who to use nano
[03:45] <Juest> i don't
[03:45] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: I don't get it
[03:46] <Juest> welll, i prefer GUIs
[03:46] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Personaly... I love peoples faces when i tell them " I Run Linux, Windows and OSX on one computer." I dont wanna lose that. I like being differnt. :)
[03:46] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: why is there no alt+tab?
[03:46] <xAndromeda> SOOOOOOOOOOO FUGLY!!!!
[03:46] <Juest> x/gtk or console
[03:46] <izinucs> xAndromeda: that's high rez.. what kind of monitor?
[03:46] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, Im pretty sure it was used for somthing else in 11.04.
[03:46] <mrdeb> is 1104 stable?
[03:46] <truepurple> bitplane: Try what first? My card was already in my system before I installed ubuntu
[03:47] <Juest> yes, now is
[03:47] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: so you're more interested in being part of an elite group than in there being a usable third option for normal users?
[03:47] <bitplane> truepurple: did you try the additional drivers thing?
[03:47] <mrdeb> is it? what p[roof do you have
[03:47] <izinucs> mrdeb: yes
[03:47] <truepurple> bitplane: I mentioned it specifically
[03:47] <Sengoku> NictraSavios: so how do you juggle between your applications?
[03:47] <izinucs> mrdeb: been running it for 3 weeks
[03:47] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Pretty much. Its why i became a white hat. Its why i use archlinux.
[03:47] <mrdeb> izinucs: you lucky
[03:47] <truepurple> bitplane: Are you using 11.04?
[03:47] <izinucs> Sengoku: alt+tab
[03:47] <NictraSavios> Sengoku, On the sidebar youll see dots on the open thingys.
[03:47] <izinucs> mrdeb: maybe..
[03:47] <xAndromeda> izinucs, its a samsung. i dont think they make them anymore though
[03:47] <researcher123> is there a saperate forum for 11.04?
[03:48] <xAndromeda> izinucs, cost me a small fortune
[03:48] <NictraSavios> researcher123, there was, its here now.
[03:48] <Sengoku> izinucs: oh doesn't work for me
[03:48] <izinucs> xAndromeda: I'll bet..
[03:48] <bitplane> truepurple: yeah I've been using it since beta 1, I installed the drivers from the additional drivers menu thing
[03:48] <carandraug> Juest, seriously. Everyone knows how to use nano, even if they never tried it before. Or at least the basic things. You move with the arrow keys, and write and delete with the rest of the keyboard. There's no command and insert modes. And all the commands you need are written on the bottom of the window all the time
[03:48] <izinucs> Sengoku: "doesn't work" is pretty vague.. what's not working?
[03:48] <researcher123> beofre I try 11.04 want to know what additional features r introduced
[03:48] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: I just don't get it, I guess. I like computers to be easy for everyone to use, not complicated so that only a special few can take part.
[03:48] <truepurple> bitplane: So your using unity now with it?
[03:48] <Daniel_> someone speaks portuguese?
[03:48] <Sengoku> izinucs: alt+tab
[03:49] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, I'm selfish tbh. I've always been "the player" "the nerd" "that guy", Ive always wanted to stand out and i have the physical and mental means to do so. I also have an obsession with making things work and look perfect.
[03:49] <izinucs> Sengoku: perhaps you have the wrong keyboard setup
[03:49] <carandraug> Daniel_, sim
[03:49] <carandraug> !pt | Daniel_
[03:49] <xsinick_laptop> people on here are egotistical  there should be free speech  even if it's about unpleasantness and  complaining the wise know it comes from love
[03:49] <Toph> bitplane,,, the new desktop fails to boot for me, but Classic works fine,, does that indicate that Unity is crashing?
[03:49] <izinucs> researcher123: you gotta be kidding... there's so much info out there on the web about the differences.. search
[03:49] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Yea i see, and agree with, your point :)
[03:49] <frankcox777> would someone be kind enough to help me get my cable broadband going in Ubuntu 10.4-it works fine in 9.4
[03:50] <bitplane> researcher123: new desktop experience with a sidebar and search instead of menus (called Unity), windows 7 style maximization and window moving, fully integrated with Compiz. Currently not very mature and may have some teething problems but in fairness it's not that bad
[03:50] <xsinick_laptop> I love ubuntu  as far as 10.10
[03:50] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: but surely you see the advantage of a useful, functional, uncomplicated distro for people like, case in point, my wife who has Natty on a netbook and loves it.
[03:50] <selekta> I need help
[03:50] <carandraug> !ot | xsinick_laptop
[03:50] <emet> can I stop unity from autohiding
[03:50] <truepurple> bitplane: So your using unity now with it?
[03:50] <spthysis_> hi
[03:50] <emet> I like it but the autohiding is annoying
[03:50] <dios_mio> hey
[03:50] <spthysis_> I have 11.04 on my Macbook Air 11inch
[03:50] <Toph> hey dios_mio
[03:50] <spthysis_> everything works fine
[03:50] <dios_mio> toph :P
[03:50] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, Theres only one reason i dont use natty. The application button. Way to unorganised for me. My OCD goes wild.
[03:50] <researcher123> bitplane: thanks.Where can I get a tour of features?
[03:50] <spthysis_> except the sound.
[03:50] <bitplane> truepurple: yes I'm using Unity with ATI proprietary drivers that automatically installed
[03:50] <Toph> dios_mio,,, ,, my Unity is crashing
[03:50] <spthysis_> The sound doesn't work at all
[03:50] <spthysis_> :/
[03:51] <selekta> I just tried to install 11.04 and it gave me an error and restarted and now I'm stuck at purple screen that says the disk drive for / is not reaqdy yet or present
[03:51] <mrdeb> bitplane: do prop drivers ati work ok
[03:51] <emet> can you stop unity from autohiding
[03:51] <FoolsRun> holy crap! since when can you use XBMC as your session at login?! Awesome!
[03:51] <bitplane> researcher123: I'd guess YouTube is probably your best bet, search for ubuntu unity
[03:51] <spacemagic> CHAOS!
[03:51] <tensorpudding> emet: install ccsm, configure the unity plugin
[03:51] <truepurple> bitplane: What do you think about using the closed source drivers instead?
[03:51] <dios_mio> toph, did you install video card drivers?
[03:51] <cardamon> Need to switch from Unity3D to Unity2D. Already installed the packages, but it hasn't altered my login options, which remain Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (No Effects), etc.
[03:51] <truepurple> bitplane: And how do I go about installing them?
[03:51] <researcher123> bitplane: ok.thanks
[03:51] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: actually I like that. I use Win7 at work and am always tapping the Windows key and searching, and the Application button has that same functionality.
[03:51] <bitplane> truepurple: I'm using the proprietary drivers because I need "eyefinity" with 3 monitor support
[03:51] <cardamon> Unity 3D uses a lot of compositing which my two year old netbook's Intel 945GMA hates.
[03:51] <spacemagic> i can still boot into 10 using grub after installing 11 i assume..?
[03:51] <dios_mio> toph, run "additional drivers"
[03:52] <xsinick_laptop> NictraSavios: exactly it looks like poor UI design  with no clarity
[03:52] <Toph> dios_mio,,, the propietary video driver that is listed in Additional Drivers is installed
[03:52] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: what's wrong with your cable modem?
[03:52] <researcher123> can I upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04?
[03:52] <frankcox777> nothing
[03:52] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, And i fix alot of computers each day. Me and 7 guys share a live/work space as a group of whitehat hackers for hire. We also fix computers in our spare time. When someone comes to me for a reformat job, or a system upgrade, They get the LTS.
[03:52] <truepurple> bitplane: Is that what is called "duel head"?
[03:52] <carandraug> spacemagic, not if installed 11.04 over 10.10
[03:52] <dios_mio> toph, i installed that and my untiy worked, but i still use the classic desktop
[03:52] <researcher123> i am on 10.04 can I upgrade to 11.04?
[03:52] <cardamon> truepurple: Dual, not Duel.
[03:52] <frankcox777> I can connect same cable to this machine and it works fine-
[03:52] <Toph> dios_mio,,, yes, not sure why mine isn't working
[03:53] <carandraug> researcher123, no
[03:53] <selekta> I just tried to install 11.04 and it gave me an error and restarted and now I'm stuck at purple screen that says the disk drive for / is not reaqdy yet or present
[03:53] <NictraSavios> xsinick_laptop, FoolsRun  We should probably take this to off-topic :/ LOL i got yelled at before for this.
[03:53] <truepurple> cardamon: Fine, is that what they mean by dual head?
[03:53] <selekta> Anyone help me?
[03:53] <xsinick_laptop> researcher123:  warning do not  you will lose features
[03:53] <bitplane> truepurple: no it's triple head, need special drivers to support more than two (dual) outputs. Eyefinity supports up to 6 currently
[03:53] <carandraug> researcher123, you'll have to upgrade first to 10.10
[03:53] <emet> tensorpudding, awesome thanks
[03:53] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: you're installing Linux for customers? Brave. I don't like being on the hook like that when they hate it or it breaks.
[03:53] <truepurple> bitplane: But multiple head means multiple monitors, not cards?
[03:53] <bitplane> xsinick_laptop: if you don't like Unity don't use it, stop moaning and choose "ubuntu classic" from the log in menu
[03:53] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, I havent have one person complain. Ive had a few that thought it was an upgrade to Windows.
[03:53] <researcher123> ok
[03:54] <FoolsRun> NictraSavios: "Where's my Outlook" is all I'd ever hear
[03:54] <frankcox777> It is not the signal -the ehernet shows up in lshw
[03:54] <FoolsRun> But I support businesses, not individuals, so it's different.
[03:54] <bitplane> truepurple: yeah I'm using one card with 3 outputs, so they're all the same desktop/workspace and 3d effects work across them like a single monitor. if you have multiple cards you don't get effects across them
[03:54] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, I said "Sorry i upgraded it for you, its called "Evolution" now."
[03:54] <xsinick_laptop> bitplane:  you don't understand even classic mode is buggy as far  dual screening  and blender
[03:54] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, And people around here use hotmail for some reason.....
[03:54] <mrdeb> you dont nmeed dual screen
[03:54] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: that doesn't tell me much... :( you're just saying it works in one and not the other...
[03:54] <truepurple> bitplane: So "head" means monitor, not card?
[03:54] <Blake_> I am back.
[03:55] <selekta> Can someone pm me and help me? The channel is too fast im on my phone
[03:55] <Blake_> Tried some more to fix my problem, but failed.
[03:55] <NictraSavios> selekta, Reinstall.
[03:55] <bitplane> truepurple: I guess so
[03:55] <xsinick_laptop> bitplane:  also if that is the case and everyone goes back to classic to get it to work correctly and have ubuntu organized  then what is the use of updating
[03:55] <Blake_> I can't get my RealTek RTL8111/8168B to work. Can anyone help me?
[03:55] <NictraSavios> selekta, Format the partitions and reinstall. Only way outta that one for you.
[03:55] <Kage> I am having issues loading the kernel module "mac8021" during boot
[03:55] <selekta> Nictrasavios I can't I can't even login
[03:55] <Kage> its cauing a crash I think
[03:55] <frankcox777> what else can I tell you? There is nothing wrong with the connection -there is something with the software or hardware
[03:55] <FoolsRun> Huh... does rc.local run differently since 10.04? I have two commands in it that aren't running properly.
[03:56] <researcher123> I have 10.04 installed and also having CD image of 10.10.Can I upgrade to 10.10 using CD image on the same hard disk?
[03:56] <administrator_> what this?
[03:56] <Juest> researcher123: yes you can
[03:56] <frankcox777> I can plug the cable into any of my other linux installs and no worries
[03:56] <spthysis_> Help!
[03:56] <NictraSavios> selekta, insert your dvd/usb and preform the install of 11.04, if you dont have a install cd or usb, get to a computer somewhere and get one.
[03:56] <researcher123> Juest: whats the procedure.I have never tried it
[03:57] <spthysis_> It's as if Pulseaudio just doesn't see my sound input and output devices
[03:57] <truepurple> bitplane: What is the method of installing the open source version of the drivers? Through a terminal command?
[03:57] <spthysis_> yet runnning alsamixer returns the right device.
[03:57] <NictraSavios> FoolsRun, People are ignorant. Use that against them "Hey i upgraded your system to "Windows Ubuntu"
[03:57] <frankcox777> I see a light from the ethernet port but it does not appear to light the end of the cable as it does on other machines
[03:57] <cardamon> Need to switch from Unity3D to Unity2D. Already installed the packages, but it hasn't altered my login options, which remain Ubuntu, Ubuntu Classic, Ubuntu Classic (No Effects), etc.
[03:57] <NictraSavios> cardamon, reboot ?
[03:57] <truepurple> bitplane: A webpage says the open source version is actually better for 'multihead'
[03:58] <cardamon> Why should I have to do that?
[03:58] <DeathAtNight> hello
[03:58] <BKTech86> is it possible to change the permissions of an external drive that is currently not letting me write to it because "file system is read-only" ??
[03:58] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: is it getting an IP? do an  ifconfig and see if it has an IP.
[03:58] <Kage> I am having issues loading the kernel module "mac8021" during boot... I get a error in syslog then what seems to be a crash...
[03:58] <Saamm> is there a way i can sort apps as per rating in soft center
[03:58] <frankcox777> ok
[03:58] <DeathAtNight> Is their a sega emulator for linux ubuntu 11.04
[03:58] <Juest> BKTech86: yes, use mount
[03:58] <EmuAlert> Is there any system-wide dictionary that  I can reinstall? Spellcheck in empathy, firefox and gedit have all failed simultaneously
[03:58] <BKTech86> Juest: how?
[03:58] <MadDecent> does anyone know anything about getting HDMI out working on a netbook? I'm on a Asus EeePC 1015N running 11.04
[03:58] <truepurple> bitplane: What is the method of installing the open source version of the drivers? Through a terminal command?
[03:59] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: look at a working one and compare
[03:59] <NictraSavios> cardamon, because rebooting makes it reload itself. It will find the ne entries then. Remember, When somthing isnt right, Reboot, Reboot Again, Google. Its called 2RAG.
[03:59] <FoolsRun> What log do errors from rc.local show up in? I have a couple commands that aren't starting properly since upgrading
[03:59] <mrdeb> do you recommend installing 1104 over 1004
[03:59] <BKTech86> Juest: ohhh i think i know
[03:59] <frankcox777> yes
[03:59]  * DeathAtNight hello?
[03:59] <NictraSavios> cardamon, its the first thing you should do when trying to fix problems in 90% of cases.
[04:00] <carandraug> DeathAtNight, there was on the previous versions. There should also be on 11.04
[04:00] <mrdeb> do you recommend installing 1104 over 1004
[04:00] <NictraSavios> selekta, Thats why you have to burn it on another, differant, workin, computer. For your situation there isnt another option.
[04:00] <FoolsRun> mrdeb: there's no upgrade path from 10.04 to 11.04. You have to install 10.10 first.
[04:00] <mrdeb> FoolsRun: is it better i mean
[04:01] <intel64gamer> I have got a bit of a problem with my graphics card. It always runs on max voltage and frequency.
[04:01] <FoolsRun> mrdeb: depends on what you're using it for
[04:01] <NictraSavios> mrdeb, want an option or facts
[04:01]  * DeathAtNight is talking about that K Sega emulator that played everything sega from gen to gamegear to master system to sega cd.  I have a legal copy of sega games I just need a emulator I had to switch to linux to try it\
[04:01] <spthysis_> Uhhh Hello?
[04:01] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: type my handle when you reply.. makes it easier to read
[04:01] <BKTech86> Juest: ok, i'm apparently not using mount right, do you know how?
[04:01] <Juest> :O
[04:01] <frankcox777> ok
[04:01] <DeathAtNight> Anybody know the name of the sega emulator?
[04:01] <FoolsRun> mrdeb: if it's a "server" type machine, stick with 10.04 because it's more stable. If it's a desktop, I actually really like 11.04.
[04:01] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, sudo mount (devicename) (filepath)
[04:01] <Juest> don't ask me, i just only know how to mount in android
[04:01] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:02] <Juest> and get mount help
[04:02] <Juest> is very easy to popup help
[04:02] <BKTech86> Juest: I tried mount -t hfsplus /dev/sdb1 /media/drive
[04:02] <carandraug> DeathAtNight, did you search for sega on the ubuntu software center?
[04:02] <BKTech86> Juest: but it still says cannot create dir, readonly filesystem
[04:02] <DeathAtNight> Yup came up just with a zsnes emulator
[04:02] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, example. sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt < mounts fisrt partition in first harddrive in /mnt. to find Device name, use df -h
[04:02] <researcher123> how to upgrade system from 10.04 to 10.10.I have CD image of 10.10 on my hard disk
[04:02] <DeathAtNight> and somethign I didn't want
[04:02] <frankcox777> mikinanuq it gives an ip address
[04:02] <DeathAtNight> saturn or something
[04:02] <NictraSavios> researcher123, click uprade button, upgrade to 10.10, then go to 11.04 the same way.
[04:03] <BKTech86> NictraSavios: i kinow how to use mount basically, but not to fix this problem of a read-only filesystem
[04:03] <xAndromeda> this lack of customization is killing me
[04:03] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, filesystem type?
[04:03] <carandraug> DeathAtNight, hmmm. I'm on debian now and have yabause (sega saturn) and dgen (genesis and MegaDrive)
[04:03] <BKTech86> NictraSavios: hfs+
[04:03] <DeathAtNight> dgen
[04:03] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: do you know what the IP of the router is? usually it's something like 192.168.0.1... type ping and the ip of the router. see if that works.
[04:03] <researcher123> NictraSavios: where is upgrade button?
[04:03] <truepurple> bitplane: What is the method of installing the open source version of the drivers? Through a terminal command?
[04:03] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:03] <carandraug> DeathAtNight, did you found dgen on ubuntu?
[04:04] <Gloopie>  blist
[04:04] <bitplane> truepurple, yes but I don't know the actual command
[04:04] <DeathAtNight> I'mma look
[04:04] <DeathAtNight> installing woot!
[04:04] <DeathAtNight> cool cool
[04:04] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, Not writable yet as far as i know. Check gparted > Deviced> supported, for possible packages that may solve it, you can also compile your own kernel with support, but ive never done it so i dont know if its writable then.
[04:04] <truepurple> bitplane: What about doing it through the driver command verses installing it from download off the ATI site? How much better is the download off the ATI site? And how do I install it?
[04:05] <carandraug> DeathAtNight, awesome. Good luck with it
[04:05] <BKTech86> NictraSavios: well i wrote the stuff thats on it, now all of a sudden it became this way i dont konw how though
[04:05] <NictraSavios> researcher123, in the updater GUI. You should find it under "System"> "admin" in the gnome menu. Use common sense to find the name, im not in ubuntu now >><
[04:05] <lsimons> Is the sun-java6-jre package available for 11.04?
[04:05] <escott> BKTech86, mount -o remount,rw /dev/blah
[04:05] <escott> BKTech86, but i dont think hfs is writable
[04:05] <frankcox777> mikinanuq - says "network is unreachable"
[04:05] <researcher123> OK
[04:05] <cardamon> Still need a way to switch from Unity3D to Unity2D.  Already grabbed the packages.
[04:05] <bitplane> truepurple: the ATI site download means you *may* get a later version of the drivers, but since Natty is new there's probably no difference at the moment. if you install from the site then you have to mess about if you want to uninstall
[04:05] <BKTech86> escott: yeah i did that command too, but it has to be writable because i wrote to it in the first place
[04:05] <researcher123> !upgrade
[04:05] <carandraug> researcher123, should be somewhere on the update manager window
[04:06] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, Hmm. Gah, i honestly dont know.
[04:06] <frankcox777> mikinanuq thanks for helping
[04:06] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: can you ping the ip of that same machine? in other words can the machine ping itself?
[04:06] <truepurple> bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?
[04:06] <NictraSavios> BKTech86, Hmm. backing up, then formating/remaking the partition. Other then that, im stumped.
[04:06] <josefig> Hello, what may I install to save the battery life in one laptop, with plug works wonderfull but without it is not good enough.
[04:06] <frankcox777> mikinanuq will try
[04:06] <josefig> ?
[04:07] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: ok.. also what IP does the machine have?
[04:07] <NictraSavios> josefig, nothing to install, just watch your "power settings"
[04:07] <NictraSavios> josefig, Set them to save power and your done. If you need the path to them, tell me what version your running
[04:08] <frankcox777> mikinanuq -yes
[04:08] <truepurple> bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?
[04:08] <Kage> I get a system kernel crash when I try to load the brcm80211 module
[04:08] <spthysis_> Urgh
[04:08] <spthysis_> Sound Not working
[04:08] <spthysis_> :/
[04:08] <TrentonAdams> hey guys.  The new ubuntu gnome doesn't look the same.  It looks aweful.  how do I get the old look back?
[04:09] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-both machines have same address
[04:09] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: what is it?
[04:09] <spthysis_> urgh
[04:09] <spikebike> TrentonAdams: at the gdm screen try ubuntu-classic
[04:09] <frankcox777> mikinanuq 127.0.0.1
[04:09] <josefig> NictraSavios, I'm runing the beta version
[04:09] <josefig> i gonna upgrade it at this moment.
[04:10] <FoolsRun> Do commands in rc.local need any kind of prefix if I want to run them as root? Or is it just one command per line?
[04:10] <NictraSavios> josefig, okay So use what spike bike just said. Go into regular gnome and go to "System" > "admin" > "power settings"
[04:10] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: that IP is a "loopback" address. it doesn't do anything :( you should get a 192 address usually
[04:10] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, choose ubuntu-classic on the startup. But give unity (the new look) a try. It's very very different but there's good things about it too once you get used to it
[04:10] <izinucs> Just tried KDE compatibility in ccsm.. weird results..
[04:10] <truepurple> bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?
[04:10] <mrdeb> mikinanuq: what is loopback
[04:11] <NictraSavios> mrdeb, Its like a bommerang.
[04:11] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-oh-I see it -brb
[04:11] <mrdeb> what does that mean
[04:11] <Guest6900> can someone help me make since of these partitions and why there appears to be 2 of the same?     http://imagebin.org/150931
[04:11] <rendero> this kde in natty is getting me sick, the bar is moving like crazy because the notification bar appears at the left or the right by moments. emerald and any other window decorator does not work with compiz. really disgusting
[04:11] <Macer> can someone tell me why my console is so incredibly slow? X is fine but when i swap over to a console or when it boots i can literally see the screen drawing itself
[04:11] <NictraSavios> mrdeb, Anything you send comes right back cus 127.0.0.1 means "host" , or the computer your on.
[04:11] <Guest6900> how can i optimize and consolidate this?
[04:11] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: when you do an ifconfig on the working pc you should see information for lo and eth0.. the lo is the loopback.. the eth0 is the actual interface. the eth0 is the one that we're concered with
[04:11] <spthysis_> HAlp
[04:11] <spthysis_> Sound isn't working
[04:11] <spthysis_> :/
[04:11] <NictraSavios> mrdeb, So if i sent a file to it, i sent it to myself. Its like sending yourself an e-mail. Same thing.
[04:12] <josefig> NictraSavios, I configured that, but nothing changed.
[04:12] <AbuMaia> banshee does not show as active in the launcher when running. Bug?
[04:12] <NictraSavios> josefig, then you need a new battery :P its not ubuntus fault.
[04:12] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-this machine has the 192 address-the other does not
[04:12] <truepurple> bitplane: bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?
[04:12] <josefig> NictraSavios, lol is a dell new brand, on windows my batter works fine about 3hrs
[04:12] <mikinanuq> spthysis_: maybe it's a known problem.. did you do a search for your machine type and ubuntu ...
[04:12] <L4nce0> hi guys, I'm trying to set gedit as my default editor for cpp files... how can I do this? google is failing me
[04:12] <bitplane> Guest6900: right click the swap with the key on it and choose "swapoff", then delete the sda5 swap, then resize sda7 swap so it fills all the space
[04:12] <josefig> and on ubuntu works just like 1hr and a half
[04:13] <NictraSavios> josefig, i wonder whats eating it ... hmm.
[04:13] <tss2> how is 11.04?
[04:13] <bitplane> Guest6900: then right click and choose "swapon"
[04:13] <josefig> maybe the cpu speed
[04:13] <Juest> L4nce0: with nautilus right click and then do open with
[04:13] <hiexpo> tell Juest why not to be root all the time
[04:13] <NictraSavios> tss2, Bug list hangs longer then your grandma... nvm not finsihing that.
[04:13] <Juest> !root
[04:14] <josefig> NictraSavios, 32% for 19 mins? lol
[04:14] <Macer> weird
[04:14] <L4nce0> Juest: that's what I've been doing to just open it... ah bah I see it now. Thanks! /egg on face
[04:14] <josefig> and Im not compiling or something like that.
[04:14] <NictraSavios> tss2, Jokes aside... this chat is flying faster then anything.
[04:14] <Guest6900> bitplane, what exactly are the swap partitions?
[04:14] <tss2> NictraSavios: I thought the .04 was supposed to be the stable one
[04:14] <Macer> i have a decent video card.. nv240
[04:14] <Juest> lol
[04:14] <Macer> but when i use a console it is horrible
[04:14] <AbuMaia> awesome bot reply for root :)
[04:14] <NictraSavios> josefig, Try and just let it run till it dies and time it. It may just give a wrong reading. Mine always says 0% but i have 2 hour.
[04:14] <bitplane> Guest6900: they're like a windows "paging file", they're where your programs get pushed out to when you run out of RAM
[04:14] <frankcox777> guest6900 swap is like pagefile in windows-virtual memory
[04:14] <NictraSavios> tss2, Nope, the LTS is.
[04:15] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: ok, the system that assigns you an IP address is called dhcp... do a ps aux | grep dhcp  to see if dhclient is working on your pc
[04:15] <truepurple>  bitplane: How do I compare the two? Is the one from additional drivers easy to remove afterwards?
[04:15] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:15] <tss2> NictraSavios: 11.04 isnt LTS?
[04:15] <NictraSavios> tss2, Every second 04. So 6.04,8.04,10.04,12.04
[04:15] <josefig> NictraSavios, okay I was thinking on checking something like try to develop something :P
[04:15]  * Juest knows what are root risks/iusses, but he wants to hear the warnings again: who can tell?
[04:15] <L4nce0> Juest: selected remember for c++ source, but it's not actually having an effect =/
[04:15] <AbuMaia> tss2: nope
[04:15] <Juest> :O
[04:15] <Juest> idk why not
[04:15] <NictraSavios> tss2: Lts is every 4th release. so 9.04 LTS, then there is 10.10,11.04,11.10 and 12.04 LTs
[04:16] <tss2> ok maybe its time to go back to slackware
[04:16] <bitplane> truepurple: yeah, you can remove it from apt-get like anything else. you can't just remove the one you install from AMD's website.. there's a shell script to uninstall that one
[04:16] <Juest> 9.04 lts and 10.04 lts?
[04:16] <truepurple> bitplane: How do I remove it afterwards?
[04:16] <spthysis_> helphelphelphelphelp
[04:16] <Guest6900> bitplane, speaking of memory, i have had problems with that lately, maybe related to this then, for some reason my memory maxed out, cpu2 and wouldnt go down, and it wasnt like i was running anything intense at the time, what could cause this?
[04:16] <L4nce0> yeah, just goes back to emacs (like the one I don't know at all =P)
[04:16] <NictraSavios> tss2: I consider the LTS an actual release. he rest are beta. And 9.04 isnt an LTS.
[04:16] <NictraSavios> tss2: sorry, typo.
[04:16] <L4nce0> frairly fresh VM so dunno
[04:16] <AbuMaia> tss2: why? because 11.04 isn't LTS?
[04:17] <NictraSavios> tss2: 10.04, 10.10,11.04,11.10 and then 12.04
[04:17] <Juest> L4nce0: change preffered apps
[04:17] <Juest> should do the trick
[04:17] <OY1R> can anyone help me fix this boot up problem, i cannot boot Ubuntu 10.10 >  http://paste.ubuntu.com/600969/
[04:17] <NictraSavios> tss2: Bassicly, every 2 years.
[04:17] <Wildman> 11.04 made me cry
[04:18] <NictraSavios> brb
[04:18] <tss2> AbuMaia: I also read some bad reviews for 11.04.. I'll try the live CD and see
[04:18] <carandraug> Wildman, of joy?
[04:18] <L4nce0> Juest:  I've tried that too.. but no text editor field =)
[04:18] <Wildman> more of a cry of pain 3_3
[04:18] <byomkeshbakshi> I am installing ubuntu on a parition on windows machine. I have downloaded ubuntu iso and checked md5 and burned to CD. I am able to rub ffrom CD. Now, when I install how to know which partition to choose because installer does not give option like D, E or F (my drives)
[04:18] <Wildman> i feel as though things have started going downhill since 9.10
[04:19] <ecanto> hello my brothers
[04:19] <tss2> thanks NictraSavios
[04:19] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: did you pre-make any partitions?
[04:19] <ecanto> :)
[04:19] <NictraSavios> back.
[04:19] <bitplane> OY1R: looks like your filesystem table is broken somehow, not sure how to fix it but it should be relatively simple
[04:19] <NictraSavios> ecanto, hello :)
[04:19] <carandraug> Wildman, do you have a problem to ask? If it's just chatting, please go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:19] <AbuMaia> tss2: this early in the game, there's gonna be almost all negative reviews until people get used to it
[04:19] <frankcox777> mikinanuq 1665 0.0 0.3 3320 800 pts/0 S+ 02:17 0.00 grep --color=auto dhcp  {dhcp  is in red]
[04:19] <hiexpo> can't remhow do i grep a conversation in irssi again ?
[04:19] <truepurple> bitplane: How do I remove it afterwards?
[04:19] <byomkeshbakshi> izinucs:yes, i have 3 partions on harddrive - on one is installed windows, one where I keep data and one completly empty
[04:19] <tss2> slackware is at v13.37
[04:19] <bitplane> truepurple: not sure what it's called
[04:19] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, Canonical screwed up. Just admit it. Unity needs another 6 months and SHOULD NOT be fault yet.
[04:20] <Wildman> it seems 10.10 works fine on this dell laptop, however after a distribution upgrade to 11.04 no form of pointing device functions.
[04:20] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, Its BETA. The list of bugs proves that much.
[04:20] <spikebike> NictraSavios: dunno
[04:20] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: hmm so all you're seeing when you run that is the ps command looking for dhcp.. that's common
[04:20] <OY1R> bitplane, something is broken that's for sure. i cant fix it either..
[04:20] <L4nce0> Juest:  I've done it! select a .cpp, properties, open with..
[04:20]  * spikebike is using unity right now, it's not so bad
[04:20] <OY1R> google didnt help much either.
[04:20] <Juest> and?
[04:21] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: try   sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop  then   start
[04:21] <Juest> great!
[04:21] <tss2> L4nce0: gj
[04:21] <NictraSavios> Holly damn. Ive been here for a hour and i can say. 11.04 is not ready...
[04:21] <Juest> gj :)
[04:21] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:21] <bitplane> OY1R: I guess you need to find the UUID of your disk and change that line in your fstab
[04:21] <Wildman> 11.04 is indeed not ready
[04:21] <AbuMaia> NictraSavios: I'm having very little difficulty with Unity so far. I need admit nothing I do not agree with
[04:21] <L4nce0> it does it. I'll just not worry why settings aren't actually changing the proper way...
[04:21] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: ubuntu will require a minimum of 2 partitions.. I recommend 3.. one for / (root), one for /swap (self explainitory, and one for /home where all your data lives.. to do that now you'll have to take the 3 partition and delete it and redo it as an extended partition.. then create 3 partitions under it.. you can do that with the installer just choose "manual" when you get to that point.
[04:21] <bitplane> OY1R not sure how to do that though or how things work at that stage of the boot process, so take what I say with a pinch of salt
[04:21] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, You havent. Dont put your xp on everyone else. In a test run of 12 noobs, 5/12 crashed in within the hour.
[04:22] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: how large is the 3rd partition
[04:22] <izinucs> ?
[04:22] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, just look at the bug list and this chat.... They should have waited another month.
[04:22] <tiresias> hello all
[04:22] <jrenner> hey does anyone know what the "Additional Drivers" application is called in the repos?
[04:22] <bitplane> NictraSavios: the crash bugs are resolved AFAIK
[04:22] <tiresias> why  %sudo ALL=(NOPASSWD:ALL) ALL   doesn't work in the sudoers please?
[04:22] <AbuMaia> NictraSavios: then don't put your experiences on me, k?
[04:22] <hiexpo> tss2, don't complain if  you don't like it go back to slackware     >   good luck t o you     > maybe that is better for you
[04:22] <torchie> what's the terminal command to restart unity?
[04:22] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, didnt. I put 12 peoples.
[04:22] <torchie> or do you just compiz --replace
[04:22] <tss2> izinucs: it depends on the size of your HD
[04:23] <torchie> corners and show desktop randomly stopped working
[04:23] <spthysis_> bitplane: How would I go about making my sound output and input work on 11.04?
[04:23] <spthysis_> bitplane: It really, really doesn't seem to be working
[04:23] <izinucs> tss2: what does?
[04:23] <tss2> hiexpo: I dont complain yet, I try the live CD first
[04:23] <jrenner> hey does anyone know what the "Additional Drivers" application is called in the repos? Trying to install on a minimal
[04:23] <AbuMaia> NictraSavios: you don't like it, don't use it
[04:23] <FoolsRun> I am an idiot
[04:23] <byomkeshbakshi> izinucs:48gb
[04:23] <FoolsRun> Note: when putting commands in rc.local, put & after them
[04:23] <tss2> izinucs: partition size
[04:24] <nathan1111> hello?
[04:24] <bitplane> spthysis_: I'm also having some pulseaudio bugs, but if you open sound preferences you should be able to configure the input/output choices through the GUI
[04:24] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: ok.. 10gigs for root described as /.... 1-2 gigs for /swap and the rest for /home
[04:24] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, I dont, i cant for 4 months. My job tells me to use OSX , then windows, then back to Linux. Honestly? I havent tried it yet. I was unbiased.
[04:24] <frankcox777> mikinanuq says to use service networking start
[04:24] <AbuMaia> NictraSavios: let others choose their own way
[04:24] <Kevin147> torchie: did you do metacity --replace?
[04:24] <spthysis_> bitplane: I'm on a Macbook Air 3,1 if that makes a difference
[04:24] <torchie> I DID NOT!
[04:24] <torchie> i did not!*
[04:24] <hiexpo> tss2, quote   >   <tss2> ok maybe its time to go back to slackware
[04:24] <Artarian> Guys can anyone help me with my upgrade ? I have NVIDIA 7050 630i but I receive no screens found error
[04:25] <Kevin147> torchie: oh alright... hmm try restarting gdm, sudo service gdm restart    that should fix it
[04:25] <byomkeshbakshi> izinucs:ok..when i say manual, will installer pick this empty partiton?
[04:25] <tss2> hiexpo: I said maybe.. I will say for sure after I try the live CD
[04:25] <nathan1111> where can I find on the ubuntu website a place to order an installation disk like in 10.10?
[04:25] <NictraSavios> AbuMaia, I shall, But i'm stunned that they would release this. Enraged by the lack of customization. An idea that ubuntu, infact all of the GNU/Linux, is build off of. And most of all, that they didnt admit "We need more time"
[04:25] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: hmm I was thinking maybe the network manager is not working... try  nm-applet  or  ps aux| grep nm-applet   to see if it's running
[04:25] <spikebike> NictraSavios: er you sound pretty fired up
[04:26] <kevn> Is there a program that assembles docs and manpages into a simple gui?
[04:26] <spikebike> NictraSavios: why not just pick a different desktop environemnt, not like ubuntu didn't make tht easy
[04:26] <NictraSavios> spikebike, I always talk like that :P less so here. If you followed me on twitter you would see it 100000% more :P
[04:26] <AbuMaia> so far, the only issue I've had with 11.04 is with Banshee
[04:26] <[thor]> nathan1111: you can still purchase a physical CD, but the free delivery service has been halted as of 11.04
[04:26] <jgould> Stupid question: Is there a meta package to install development tools to build something from source
[04:26] <sinistrad> Has anyone tried the google voice notifier with unity yet? https://launchpad.net/gvoice-notifier
[04:26] <torchie> sudo service gdm didn't do anything :O
[04:26] <abstrakt> how can I make postfix deliver *any* message for *any* domain to a single local mailbox?
[04:26] <spikebike> jgould: start with apt-get install build-sessential
[04:26] <gtlarue> I am having issues with my audio, in 11.04, audio works fine until I run the "movie player" application, then audio becomes choppy and distorted, until I reboot my machine
[04:26] <abstrakt> i want to run a "virtual" open relay, but just on my localhost
[04:27] <abstrakt> and only while i'm doing development
[04:27] <NictraSavios> spikebike, I'm not even on ubuntu. I was unbiased an hour ago. My job is telling me to use OSX for 2 months, then Windows for 2 months, then back to Linux for 2 months.
[04:27] <tss2> hiexpo: does that sound fair
[04:27] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: yes.. but when you use the installer it will get to a point for partitioning.. choose manual.. from there you have to carve up the the empty partition.. first make it "extended".. then create the 3 partitions.. when you create the 1st there will be an option to choose the mount point.. thats where you tell it what kind of partition.. / for root etc..
[04:27] <abstrakt> i don't want to bother with setting up Cyrus or a VPN
[04:27] <carandraug> jgould, yes. Can't remember their names though. You can probably find it on google
[04:27] <frankcox777> mikinanuq -applet -  an instance ia already running
[04:27] <spikebike> NictraSavios: weird, why?
[04:27] <Artarian> Hello Folks I updated my ubuntu to 11.04 and my nvidia drivers are not working it says cant find module nvidia and it was working
[04:27] <Kevin147> torchie: do it in the terminal... sudo service gdm restart
[04:27] <nathan1111> is 11 worth it?
[04:27] <torchie> ah i see
[04:27] <carandraug> jgould, I found it. It's called build-essential
[04:28] <byomkeshbakshi> izinucs:ok..cool thanks
[04:28] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: you've already looked in that applet make sure you don't have network disabled or something weird like that
[04:28] <jgould> spikebike, Thank you!
[04:28] <NictraSavios> spikebike, We are Whitehat hackers for higher, to keep us from getting rusty or to used to one system, we rotate. We run on a 7 computer cluster (7 computers, one big RAID harddrive, and each has there own for our personal use)
[04:28] <spyzer> hello all, just yesterday i installed ubuntu 11.04. My issue is that my desktop GUI keeps freezing and once it freezes it never recovers. I have an ATI Radeon Mobility 4500 series graphics card and am using open source radeon driver
[04:28] <izinucs> byomkeshbakshi: take your time.. and ask questions if you get stuck
[04:28] <hiexpo> tss2, yep
[04:28] <spyzer> Please help
[04:28] <spikebike> NictraSavios: sensible
[04:28] <truepurple> izinucs: What FS would you recommend for both files that both linux and windows would use?
[04:28] <NictraSavios> spikebike, hire* sorry, the chat speed and my own distraction is making my spelling suck.
[04:28] <spikebike> spyzer: I'd use the commercial
[04:28] <spikebike> NictraSavios: heh, I parsed it
[04:29] <spthysis_> bitplane: I've, uhhh, tried that already.
[04:29] <izinucs> truepurple: right now.. ext3.. I don't think there's a windows driver for ext4
[04:29] <mikinanuq> nathan1111: it's a big learning curve. you either love it or hate it or learn to love it... i'm in the process of learning to love it...
[04:29] <NictraSavios> spikebike, Its a live/work space on campus :P the University gives us most of the work.
[04:29] <spyzer> spikebike: the commercial one actually slowed down my entire system and i have no idea why
[04:29] <spikebike> NictraSavios: which campus?
[04:29] <truepurple> izinucs: But win7 recognizes ext3?
[04:29] <frankcox777> mikinanuq- sorry to be so dense but what would I do to see if network is disabled?
[04:29] <izinucs> truepurple: not natively.. there's a driver you have to install.
[04:29] <nathan1111> I have 10.10, is it easy to transition? (and i dont mean to install)
[04:29] <spikebike> spyzer: strange, I've got a 5770 and the ati catalyst drive is pretty good, I'm using 10.2, but 10.3 and 10.4 are out
[04:29] <selekta> So. How is 11.04 any problems with it?
[04:29] <NictraSavios> spikebike, Saint Xairver Univeristy. Better known as St. FX.
[04:30] <spikebike> NictraSavios: UC Davis here
[04:30] <NictraSavios> spikebike, Its in antagonish Nova Scotia :P
[04:30] <truepurple> izinucs: But you think that is a better option then fat or NTSF?
[04:30] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: usually the nm-applet  is a little network icon on the task tray. right click on it and see if there is a checkmark next to wired network
[04:30] <frankcox777> mikinanuq it says it is enabled on the panel
[04:31] <spyzer> spikebike: should i lanuch a bug somewhere regarding this?
[04:31] <bitplane> I personally wouldn't run anything other than NTFS on a Windows install, sounds like asking for trouble
[04:31] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: Enable Networking is checked?
[04:31] <NictraSavios> spikebike, there isnt much of a tech unity here, personaly i do a double major in Physics and Chemistry feilds. This is more/less a hobby, but we do get paid.
[04:31] <frankcox777> mikinanuq   checkmark enable networking
[04:31] <izinucs> truepurple: fat is horrible.. good for usb sticks etc.. but that's about it.. linux won't use ntfs for /home but will read it .. are you creating a shared partition or are you trying to have access to the /home partiton/directory from windows?
[04:31] <NictraSavios> spikebike, And yea, im 17 :P i was bumped up a grade in primary/middle school.
[04:31] <carandraug> truepurple, the only one both will recognize natively is FAT. NTFS also works well on ubuntu now. The problem with these choices is that it doesn't allow Linux to control permissions the way it likes
[04:31] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: go in to the Edit Network connections on the  applet
[04:31] <izinucs> truepurple: and is this for a dual boot or shared drive off a LAN
[04:32] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:32] <spikebike> spyzer: that's kinda vague, but if you can track it down to something specific sure
[04:32] <nathan1111> can unity be disabled?
[04:32] <Artarian> spikebike, what about nvidia? any tutorial for those who found problem at module?
[04:32] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: yes
[04:32] <truepurple> izinucs: Shared partition, Linux and windows will both have their own partition aside from this one
[04:32] <ball> Hello, I like cake.
[04:32] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: do you have anythnig in the "wired" tab?
[04:32] <truepurple> izinucs: Duel boot
[04:32] <frankcox777> mikinanuq auto eth
[04:32] <ball> Is it possible to mount an .iso image
[04:32] <spikebike> Artarian: I've two desktops, one nvidia and one ATI, in general the nvidia is the better driver
[04:32] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: switch to Ubuntu Classic Desktop from the log in screen that's one way to get rid of it.  Why do you want to of interest?
[04:32] <ball> ...and then boot it from within Ubuntu?
[04:32] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: hmm click on it and then edit..
[04:32] <spikebike> Artarian: IMO both are good enough
[04:32] <izinucs> truepurple: so just a separate partition outside of what is normall used for either system?
[04:32] <frankcox777> mikinanuqnever used
[04:33] <Artarian> spikebike, the upgrade just f**** everything it gives me no screen found
[04:33] <carandraug> ball, yes.
[04:33] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:33] <tensorpudding> ball: what you want sounds like a virtual machine
[04:33] <bitplane> ball, everyone likes cake. also yes, you can use virtualbox to boot an ISO, or mount one from within Ubuntu by right clicking on it
[04:33] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: is connect automatically checked?
[04:33] <ball> tensorpudding: I'm not sure I can run that on this chip
[04:33] <Artarian> spikebike, everything did work smoothly for you after upgrading
 hard to get used to for some reason, and I had my menus set up very well
[04:33] <spikebike> Artarian: yes
[04:33] <tensorpudding> ball: you can
[04:33] <frankcox777> mikinanuq connect auto ic checked
[04:33] <Artarian> aaww
[04:33] <carandraug> ball, wait. What? I only read the first line. please make your question in one line, you got me confused. Could you explain better?
[04:33] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: ok well do what I said then :)
[04:34] <frankcox777> is
[04:34] <Artarian> bad luck then
[04:34] <truepurple> izinucs: A partition for linux, a partition for windows, a partition for VM for linux and windows perhaps, finally a main partition for "files"
[04:34] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: and you can set classic Desktop as default as well
[04:34] <casey> Does anyone know why my natty narwhale does not load from GRUB? Everytime I choose it, it just freezes trying to load. It only seems to work for me if I boot from a previous version :(. Any ideas?
[04:34] <tensorpudding> ball: though the chips with virtualization extensions allow you to get decent performance
[04:34] <spikebike> Artarian: I've got a dual head setup, 24" + 20"
[04:34] <Artarian> spikebike, the module disappeared
[04:34] <nathan1111> sebsebseb: thanks (x
[04:34] <ball> ...my objective is to install a new Linux install on a hard disk, to replace the existing one.
[04:34] <Artarian> how can that be
[04:34] <frankcox777> mikinanuq MTU ato
[04:34] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: ok your welcome :)
[04:34] <frankcox777> automatic
[04:34] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: under IPv4 settings is Method: set to Automatic DHCP?
[04:34] <truepurple> izinucs: May we please speak in PM so I can keep track of this conversation better?
[04:34] <tensorpudding> ball: you'll need to make a bootable external medium them
[04:34] <spikebike> Artarian: I'd suggest reinstalling the driver from scratch
[04:34] <NictraSavios> Oh dangit! Forgot to call my gf about 35 minutes ago....
[04:35] <izinucs> truepurple: sure.. /msg me
[04:35] <NictraSavios> Uh... i g2g ..... yea... LOL.
[04:35] <tensorpudding> ball: you can't mess with the hard disk while you're in ubuntu
[04:35] <frankcox777> mikinanuq yes
[04:35] <ball> tensorpudding: That'll mean cracking the case to temporarily attach an optical drive then.
[04:35] <Artarian> spikebike, i did purge nvidia-current package now im reinstalling it
[04:35] <tensorpudding> ball: not necessarily, you can make flash drives into bootable media
[04:35] <truepurple> izinucs: hmm, it doesn't seem to work
[04:35] <Artarian> i will get back to you if it works spikebike
[04:35] <frankcox777> mikinanuqipv6 is set to ignore
[04:35] <truepurple> izinucs: Please /msg me instead perhaps
[04:36] <spikebike> Artarian: if that's a no go try downloading and installing the driver directly from nvidia.com
[04:36] <nathan1111> is chrome running on 11.04?
[04:36] <spikebike> nathan1111: the browser?
[04:36] <nathan1111> yes
[04:36] <Captainkrtek> nathan1111,  yes
[04:36] <torchie> huh
[04:36] <Captainkrtek> Im using it now
[04:36] <spikebike> nathan1111: yes, I've got it open now
[04:36] <torchie> didn't expect that to restart everything
[04:36] <izinucs> truepurple: i'm there.. are you?
[04:36] <kins> can anyone help me mount an external cd/dvd drive
[04:36] <torchie> reminds me of osx windowserver
[04:36] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: ok... hmm remind me, when you do the ifconfig does it show you the eth0 settings and the lo settings or no eth0 settings at all?
[04:36] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: sudo apt-get install chromium it's the open source version that Chrome is based on
[04:36] <lduros> hello, my boot gets stuck after "checking batteries", and if i log in through the command line, I cannot start x manually (sudo startx or sudo gdm) I get fatal server error: no screens found
[04:37] <casey> Does anyone know why my natty narwhale does not load from GRUB? Everytime I choose it, it just freezes trying to load. It only seems to work for me if I boot from a previous version :(. Any ideas?
[04:37] <gtlarue> well, its not streaming in general, seems to just be the "movie player" program, Audacious can play audio without breaking it
[04:37] <lduros> any idea what i can do? It's an old desktop and upgrade d to 11.04
[04:37] <carandraug> kins, just say what's the error when you try to connect it. If someone can help, they will
[04:37] <ball> tensorpudding: This machine doesn't seem able to boot from USB.
[04:37] <IdleOne> nathan1111: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[04:37] <ball> I've tried flash and CD-ROM
[04:37] <tensorpudding> ball: well, sorry then
[04:37] <nathan1111> i  use the dev version of g chrome. what about that.
[04:37] <sebsebseb> nathan1111: chromium-browser even ah yes, ty IdleOne forgot about that,  chromium would install a game
[04:37] <lduros> there's a problem with the video card it seems, misconfiguration maybe?
[04:37] <frankcox777> mikinanuq eth1 only
[04:37] <IdleOne> sebsebseb: yup :)
[04:38] <tensorpudding> ball: the only other option would be PXE boot but that's not only a pain to install, but probably not supported from your hardware
[04:38] <kins> why does lucid not even read my external cd/dvd drive
[04:39] <rendero> plasma panel got crazy in natty kde, notification icon is moving in the panel at the left or right !
[04:39] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: give me a sec
[04:39] <frankcox777> mikinanuq ok
[04:39] <Artarian> spikebike, it worked!
[04:40] <Loonatic> Hi i got a LAMP server and i need to install an actual GUI i can i do this easily ?
[04:40] <spikebike> Artarian: cool
[04:40] <Artarian> spikebike, i did purge the nvidia-current package and reinstalled but one more thing how do i set my gnome bar back?
[04:40] <spikebike> apt-get install gnome-desktop or similar
[04:40] <Artarian> spikebike, this new bar not good
[04:40] <spikebike> Artarian: try add user and login as them
[04:40] <selekta|> bitplane
[04:40] <spikebike> oh you mean unity?
[04:40] <bitplane> hey selekta|
[04:40] <nathan1111> didn't oracle stop making OOo?
[04:41] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: is it a laptop? does it have wireless and wired on the pc that's having problems?
[04:41] <ball> nathan1111: They released it into the wild
[04:41] <spikebike> nathan1111: there was a fork, now libre is not related to oracle
[04:41] <casey> Does anyone know why my natty narwhale does not load from GRUB? Everytime I choose it, it just freezes trying to load. It only seems to work for me if I boot from a previous version :(. Any ideas?
[04:41] <ball> ...after the fact.
[04:41] <armor-64> hi guys a have a problem with the ubuntu and the ATI VGA,somehow when i installed the drivers for the GPU ,ubuntu startet to glitch ,i remove them becouse i hate to work on my pc like that,can i keep the default ubuntu drivers?
[04:41] <gartral> i have a laptop that has an *insane* battery.. it lasts about 9 hours. the indicator turns red.. at around 2:40 hours left.. how do i change that?
[04:41] <spikebike> casey: something screwed up, boot a recovery cd and reinstall grub
[04:41] <spikebike> it's not a inate ubuntu issue
[04:42] <casey> spikebike: Please explain further. How do I make a recovery cd? I installed narwhal from the update manager?
[04:42] <frankcox777> mikinanuq I am beginning to think it is the ethernet card or its driver-maybe I should try to boot the drive in another machine?
[04:43] <Kevin147> Hm, ever since I upgraded to 11.04, I play Minecraft, and now java is only using one core? I have a quad-core.. how do I make it even out? :/
[04:43] <spikebike> casey: google linux recovery cd grugb
[04:43] <spikebike> grub
[04:43] <OY1R> !grub
[04:43] <Artarian> 11.04 totally sux
[04:43] <fringe_boss> casey can be a windows dual boot issue, can be a APIC/ACPI issue
[04:44] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: hmm well the thing is that ifconfig shows an interface eth1 so my guess is that there is a config that's setup for eth0 but not eth1 for some reason
[04:44] <casey> fringe_boss: Well I do dual boot. Does that help any? Spike was saying to reinstall grub.
[04:44] <OY1R> !grub
[04:44] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: it's not the drivers or the card in my opinion at least not at this point.. you see lights on the back where the card is plugged in right?
[04:45] <fringe_boss> casey how many OSs?
[04:45] <OY1R> someone put that grub link up
[04:45] <elijah> Is it possible to upgrade from 32bit to 64bit?
[04:45] <frankcox777> mikinanuq- I see them but not on the cable
[04:46] <sebsebseb> elijah: not without a clean install
[04:46] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-correction -that was just a reflection-no lights
[04:46] <elijah> sebsebseb: okay, could I copy the home folder?
[04:46] <casey> fringe_boss: Just vista and now nawhal updating from meerkat.
[04:46] <sebsebseb> !home | elijah
[04:47] <lduros> hello, it seems i can't use unity, and it's using the auto-logging, is there a way I could revert to gnome classic from the command line? I suspect there's a configuration file for this no?
[04:47] <spikebike> lduros: select ubuntu-classic at the gdm login
[04:47] <fringe_boss> casey by reinstalling GRUB you run the risk of loosing boot acces to the other OS. once I got involved in such problem - and its hardcore stuff
[04:47] <Laggg> escott: worked wonderfully :D
[04:48] <escott> Laggg, glad to here
[04:48] <lduros> spikebike: I don't have the gdm-login, because it's logging in automatically
[04:48] <Laggg> Props to escott! We've got the same name and he knows what he's talking about when it comes to linux!!
[04:48] <lduros> it makes i'm stuck in the command line, no x-server
[04:48] <casey> fringe_boss: Oh really? Thanks for telling me man. I was almost going to go down that path. Any ideas on what I should do? It's really annoying to boot from previous versions menu :(.
[04:48] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: usually those light up if they have a good link so maybe it is the card. If you pull the drive and put it in another pc you may have trouble with drivers that are not installed or misconfigured unless you have a similar or identical spare box
[04:48] <fringe_boss> casey I heard about another boot manager people are using, but dont remember its name. take a look at freshmeat - good luck
[04:48] <spikebike> lduros: create a second user I suspect then it won't autologin
[04:49] <blognewb> hi guys is there a nice task mgr for ubuntu?
[04:49] <escott> lduros, /etc/grub/custom.conf
[04:49] <escott> lduros, remove it
[04:49] <sebsebseb> fringe_boss: casey  Grub and LILO, but hardly anyone uses LILO anymore
[04:49] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-Usually ubuntu finds the drivers if there is a connection-maybe that is my problem here-no connection, no ethernet driver
[04:49] <lduros> escott: let me try this thanks
[04:49] <blognewb> kinda like coHuman but now im scared of it because the data is kept in their servers
[04:49] <casey> fringe_boss: freshmeat? Really lol? Is that whats it's called?
[04:49] <lduros> spikebike: i'll try making a second user if the custom.conf doesn't work
[04:50] <Kreative`> blognewb, System -> Preferences -> Adminstration -> System Monitor?
[04:50] <fringe_boss> sebsebseb theres another one
[04:50] <casey> sebsebseb: Are you not advising LILO then?
[04:50] <sebikul> Hi to everyone!. When upgrading to natty today (having already installed all drivers, etc.),  after the plymouth screen disappears , I am left with a screen with the nvidia logo, the PC is locked there,  it doesn't load any further, and I must restart by pressing Alt + Sys + B. I have a video card Nvidia GForce GT220 PCI  and onboard Geforce 6150 LE, but not being used. The only thing I could get from the logs is this  (http://paste.ubuntu.
[04:50] <blognewb> Kreative` i meant task manager software
[04:50] <sebikul> Note that this only happens when using the proprietary driver. When using nouveau I can use ubuntu without a problem, same as when using a failsafe boot
[04:50] <sebsebseb> casey: indeed,  hardly any distro's do LILO by default anymore, which also means hardly anyone knows LILO
[04:50] <blognewb> hi guys is there a nice task mgr software for ubuntu? for managing job tasks
[04:50] <Kreative`> What do you mean, job tasks?
[04:50] <sebsebseb> casey: some distro's still using the old nice old version of Grub, but later versions of Ubuntu that Grub 2 thing hmm
[04:50] <frankcox777> mikinanuq -Wont take long to find out
[04:50] <Name141> Is there any real reason not to download and use the 64bit Ubuntu on a 4GB RAM system ?
[04:50] <sebsebseb> !grub2 | casey
[04:51] <blognewb> Kreative` personal tasks
[04:51] <casey> sebsebseb: Are you aware of my problem? Basically I am having trouble booting narwhal after the update I did. It seems to freeze and be stuck in an ubuntu loading menu :(.
[04:51] <Kreative`> Ah..
[04:51] <carandraug> Name141, if your system is not 64-bit
[04:51] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: yeah, check it out won't take long
[04:51] <sebsebseb> casey: no, but i t just be an upgrade that went wrong
[04:51] <Name141> carandraug: I suppose it is, it's an Athlon II X4
[04:51] <sebsebseb> carandraug: ,but it could just be an upgrad that went wrong
[04:51] <sebsebseb> casey: ^
[04:51] <bizerklurker> Can someone tell me why my launcher icons revert to default upon login?
[04:51] <bizerklurker> I'm using Unity
[04:51] <casey> sebsebseb: So how do I make an upgrade go wrong turned right?
[04:52] <sebsebseb> casey: if you can't  boot up 11.04 after upgrading to it, maybe recovery mode from the boot loader can help some how, or just clean install
[04:52] <escott> lduros, you may need to restart the gdm service
[04:52] <bizerklurker> Launcher Icons Revert to Default Upon Login
[04:52] <casey> sebsebseb: dang. I was hoping not to do that. It sounds a little messy.
[04:52] <carandraug> Name141, I know on the old times, some software had problems on 64-bit. Specially flash player. I don't think this old true anymore but all my machines are still 32-bit
[04:53] <sebsebseb> casey: well when it comes to re installing Linux distro's haveing a seperate /home really does help useually :)
[04:53] <lduros> escott: It doesn't seem to have done the trick though, x-server still finds no screen
[04:53] <ball> Well I'd best break out the screwdrivers then.
[04:53] <fringe_boss> casey sebsebseb theres another boot manager around, about wich I heard good reviews
[04:53] <sebsebseb> casey: however in the case of Ubuntu,  I have always set that up on the install of Ubuntu, never afterwoulds, which is also possible
[04:53] <lduros> escott: I'm wondering if there's a config file for this that's preventing me to get the graphic interface
[04:53] <spyzer> hello everyone, when id lsmod i find that "radeon" is loaded as a module BUT do i also need to specify that in xorg.conf ???
[04:53] <casey> sebsebseb: I believe I did do that from reading a tutorial but I don't know what it xactly means. Is there anyway I can check?
[04:53] <sebsebseb> fringe_boss: oh BLURG?
[04:53] <spyzer> please tell
[04:53] <spyzer> currently there is no xorg.conf
[04:54] <Name141> carandraug: Will the 64bit still have the 'make a startup drive' option for a USB stick ?
[04:54] <casey> *exactly
[04:54] <carandraug> Name141, like I said, I don't know because i never used the 64-bit. But I'd have to guess I'd say yes
[04:54] <sebsebseb> fringe_boss: there's one based on Grub 2,  that omgubuntu go on about sometimes,  Blurg I think
[04:54] <mikinanuq> casey: I had a similar problem because of nvidia drivers.. would stay at the pink ubuntu screen and never get to the login.. do you have nvidia?
[04:54] <fringe_boss> spyzer dunno - doesnt sounds like
[04:54] <casey> sebsebseb: Is blurg bad or something lol?
[04:54] <sebsebseb> casey: Blurg isn't reallyf or newbies, it's a new project, based on Grub 2,  so people can theme Grub better and such
[04:54] <casey> mikinauq: I sure do lol. Any solution?
[04:55] <Name141> carandraug: I guess I'd only lose a CD and some bandwidth if it doesn't.
[04:55] <sebsebseb> casey: and things can mess up if you do it wrong or whatever
[04:55] <Name141> carandraug: while I wait on the 32bit to download..
[04:55] <sebsebseb> casey: stick with Grub
[04:55] <sebsebseb> casey: other boot loaders are quite pointless useualy now days
[04:55] <casey> sebsebseb: yeah well i'm a newbie, so i'll trust you with that.
[04:55] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-have to use this machine-brb
[04:55] <mikinanuq> casey: I had to boot in to recovery mode root with network.. then apt-get install linux-generic-headers  or  apt-get install linux-headers-generic
[04:56] <codex84> i have ubuntu 10.10 just upgrade to 11.04 after done installation and restart doesnt nuttin but my background
[04:56] <codex84> ?
[04:56] <carandraug> casey, I subscribe sebsebseb opinion. Stick with GRUB
[04:56] <codex84> doesn't show nuttin**
[04:56] <casey> mikinanuq: So that worked for you?
[04:56] <Spork> I'm having a problem with 11.04, I just upgraded
[04:57] <shmup> someone helped me with this a while ago and i completely forget what i did. just set up lamp & phpmyadmin. when i try accessing localhost/phpmyadmin, it downloads a file.
[04:57] <mikinanuq> casey: yeah, I read it in a bugreport.
[04:57] <shmup> i cannot remember the fix ;x
[04:57] <rahduke> just upgrade to 11.04, graphics drivers not working, nouveau driver doesn't kick in and im left with a terminal. I had custom Nvidia drivers installed prior to upgrade, trying to install the new nvidia drivers off their site (which apparently work) but the installer says I need to disable Noveau in X config.... how do i do that
[04:57] <casey> mikinanuq: Awesome. Thanks for the help. I'm going to try that for sure.
[04:58] <amy_> just curious, but are all the *BSD channels normally invite only?
[04:58] <shmup> er this wasnt an ubuntu question heh sorry
[04:58] <carandraug> !phpmyadmin | shmup
[04:58] <Guest80758> In my new 11.04 upgrade, my mouse keeps not responding to clicks
[04:58] <codex84> i have trouble too show nuttin but my desktop
[04:58] <Roasted> How can I turn off the tap-to-select on my touchpad in ubuntu?
[04:58] <lduros> rahduke: exactly the same problem for me. if i try sudo startx, i get fatal error: no screens found. do you have the same problem?
[04:58] <codex84> background
[04:58] <mikinanuq> casey: no prob hope it helps
[04:58] <bizerklurker_> Can someone please help me I've been lost for hours... why do my launcher icons revert to default upon every login? :(
[04:58] <bizerklurker_> Can someone please help me I've been lost for hours... why do my launcher icons revert to default upon every login? :(
[04:58] <rahduke> i havent tried that
[04:59] <rabbit_> mikinanuq-I bridged the drive to my other machine and an using that hard drive to talk to you now
[04:59] <katsrc> trying to compile and getting this error: "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" anyone have an idea what it could be?
[04:59] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: You can try and reset your profile but it's kind of extreme and a little bit of work. at least it will fix the problem for sure
[04:59] <SpockSpork> So does anyone know why the mouse won't respond to clicks in 11.04?
[04:59] <spikebike> katsrc: try to compile hello_world.c
[05:00] <mikinanuq> rabbit_: ok
[05:00] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq Hmm... I am a beginner.. do you really think I should?
[05:00] <trueman> i have black screen of death, tried nomodeset and installed... but what to do next? i have low resolution (640x480). It's bad=(
[05:00] <dijonyummy> is there a good way to install apps via script via apt-get or synaptic or aptitude, but still get the icons in gnome panel?
[05:00] <spikebike> dijonyummy: apt-get does that
[05:00] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-apparently you were right- it is working on the other drive but know says eth0
[05:00] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: I had to do it today after the upgrade :( ...
[05:01] <carandraug> dijonyummy, you still get the icons on the panel if you install with aptitude
[05:01] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: cool.. so it is the NIC on that other pc
[05:01] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-any idea how to fix it?
[05:01] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq how do I even go about doing it?
[05:01] <codex84> problem with 11.04 is not showing nothing but my background
[05:01] <frankcox777> not sure-on this one it says eth0 instead of eth1
[05:01] <codex84> just upgraded ittt
[05:01] <frankcox777> mikinanuq>	not sure-on this one it says eth0 instead of eth1
[05:02] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: go in to a command prompt and reset your root password first because you need to log in as root to do it.
[05:02] <trueman> black screen of death...
[05:02] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: do a  "sudo su" put in your password
[05:03] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: now you are in as root...  type passwd <ENTER> and set the root password
[05:03] <frankcox777> mikinanuq- Wonder if I delete eth1 on other machine and reboot if it will start working?
[05:03] <pp7> how do u change the background color of the top unity panel?
[05:03] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: hmm usually that's just automatic
[05:03] <linux> really
[05:03] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq I'm getting lots of output -.- ......
[05:03] <bizerklurker_> errr
[05:04] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: sudo su   should not give you lots of output
[05:04] <frankcox777> mikinanuq-ok - I guess the next move is to put in a pci ethernet card and disconnect the one on the mainboard
[05:04] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: I already tried ubuntu-classic.  The menu/task bars look really good until suddenly they change to the old style MS windows look with really stand out buttons
[05:05] <keithclark> what is the irc channel for ubuntu just general discussion?
[05:05] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq "Authentication token manipulation error"
[05:05] <frankcox777> mikinanuq -Thanks for all your time
[05:05] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: this happens during login, something must be messing something up, but I'm not sure what.
[05:05] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: true that may eliminate the onboard NIC issue.. you should disable the NIC in the BIOS for the onboard if you're putting in a PCI one
[05:05] <SpockSpork> Can anyone point me to the right channel for 11.04 help, or answer my question?
[05:05] <mikinanuq> frankcox777: no prob
[05:05] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: give me a sec.. gotta put the kids to bed
[05:05] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq nvm it worked
[05:05] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq oh wow I'm sorry you go ahead
[05:06] <balleyne> upgrade to 11.04, when I open Firefox I can't seem to access any of the Unity stuff (no global menu, BFB, launcher items... have to switch workspaces to see any of that. and super doesn't bring up the dashboard...). Thoughts?
[05:06] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, sorry, at this hour (5am here) I can't think of what may be wrong
[05:07] <linux> What is Ubuntu.
[05:07] <trueman> black screen of death... Who solved this problem on 11.04 with nvidia cards, please help
[05:07] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: you NUT, go to bed.
[05:08] <keithclark> I found it, thanks
[05:08] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, I will soon. But still have work to do
[05:08] <codex84> i upgraded too 11.04 is not showing nothing but my background wallpaper
[05:08] <tortoise> Hey guys. I've been faced with this issue for quite awhile, and have googled and researched and googled and researched and have yet to find a solution. I'm using 10.04, and firefox and when I attempt to load pages with hyphens at the end or the beginning of the URL, the page won't load. It does the same thing in Chrome. Even after all of the googling I have done, I still don't have a clue how to fix this, so I'm hoping someone
[05:08] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: The funny thing about it, is that my actual windows, all of them, have the proper theme, just the menu and task bars don't.
[05:08] <tortoise> here could give me some direction?
[05:08] <spikebike> balleyne: create a new user and login as that user
[05:09] <trueman> Background wallpaper =) I see only black screen on my screen...
[05:09] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, try "metacity --replace"
[05:09] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: I get Window manager warning: "" found in configuration database is not a valid value for keybinding "begin_move"
[05:09] <SpockSpork> I'm having a problem where my mouse refuses to click on anything,
[05:09] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: from the console
[05:09] <SpockSpork> 11.04
[05:10] <spikebike> tortoise: give an example url
[05:10] <rgr> SpockSpork: left? right? both? middle button?
[05:10] <trueman> black screen is the most difficult problem, only few men have solved it
[05:10] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, did you try to change the theme on appearance preference window?
[05:10] <SpockSpork> sometimes one, somtimes both
[05:10] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: ok so if you reset the root password you'll have to do the following but you need to reboot to do it... write the next steps down
[05:10] <tortoise> spikebike: http://novemberblue-.tumblr.com
[05:10] <SpockSpork> it's acting very finnicky
[05:11] <codex84> i upgraded to 11.04 nothing is showing
[05:11] <balleyne> spikebike: and that will fix my current user's settings? I can see Unity stuff, until I open Firefox or focus on Firefox...
[05:11] <codex84> but my background wallpaper
[05:11] <rgr> yes, my crystal can see that...
[05:11] <codex84> ?
[05:11] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq will do
[05:11] <armor-64> hi guys i need help,i have problem with the ATI VGA(drivers)can i keep the default Ubuntu drivers instead
[05:11] <tortoise> spikebike: I've also tried excluding the http bit, as well as with and without the w's but it doesn't make a difference
[05:11] <canthus13> codex84: try classic ubuntu.
[05:11] <linux> l see.
[05:11] <codex84> i cant
[05:11] <codex84> doesnt show the menu bar
[05:11] <trueman> I have a black screen after installed nvidia 270xxx drivers.. What to do?
[05:11] <codex84> or nothiing
[05:11] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: reboot, when you're at the login screen press ctrl+alt+f1 ... that takes you in to a console/command window. log in with root.
[05:11] <rgr> codex84: select it from the login dialog or?
[05:12] <canthus13> codex84: switch to a terminal, reboot from the command line, and then change to classic ubuntu before logging in.
[05:12] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_:  do a  "cd /home"
[05:12] <balleyne> spikebike: ah, nm; restarting Firefox did the trick...
[05:12] <kjxl9> hello
[05:12] <codex84> it doesnl;t even show a login box or nuttin
[05:12] <codex84> lol
[05:12] <renegaid> ubuntu seems to get slower and slower with every release
[05:12] <rgr> hopefully you didnt upgrade. You would be mad to trust a Ubuntu upgrade.
[05:12] <canthus13> codex84: Eh? GDM isn't even starting? Ugh-oh.
[05:13] <spikebike> renegaid: 11.04 feels like 10.10 to me
[05:13] <kz3> should i upgrade to 11.04 or not?
[05:13] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: then  "mv your_folder your_folder.old" .. that renames your old profile folder but doesn't delete it. You can get your documents and other stuff back from it
[05:13] <rgr> canthus13: if he can see his wallpaper then gdm has started.
[05:13] <canthus13> kz3: I wouldn't.
[05:13] <codex84> yeaa nothingg
[05:13] <codex84> yoo
[05:13] <spikebike> kz3: IMO the default default 11.04 is much lik egoing from linux to osx
[05:13] <canthus13> rgr: Well, not completely from the sounds of it...
[05:13] <rgr> codex84: have you restarted?
[05:13] <selekta|> the installer has detected that the following disks have mounted partitions
[05:13] <codex84> not even alt f1
[05:13] <kz3> canthus13: why?
[05:13] <spikebike> kz3: so if you don't want a big change don't upgrade
[05:13] <codex84> yea mad timess
[05:13] <selekta|> Do I want to unmount the disks before continuing?
[05:13] <canthus13> kz3: Give it a week or two.
[05:13] <trueman> Every release i see only black screen =) What is Ubuntu??
[05:13] <rgr> you mean C-alt-f1?
[05:13] <selekta|> Im installing 11.04
[05:13] <codex84> and even shutdownn
[05:13] <lduros> canthus13 codex84: i have the same problem, if i try sudo startx I get no screens found
[05:13] <canthus13> kz3: It's pretty hairy so far.
[05:14] <linux> 9.10
[05:14] <rgr> Its ludicrous to release such buggy crap on poor users regardless of state.
[05:14] <canthus13> linux: 9.10 is EOL.
[05:14] <mrdeb> xshould you upgrad from lts to 1104?
[05:14] <lduros> canthus13 codex84: i was able to load in failsafe mode, then low graphics, it was ubuntu classic, reverted to ubuntu classic but it didn't do the trick. ... damn
[05:14] <codex84> yea nothing work
[05:14] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: after you move it you have to create a new folder for your profile with   "mkdir your_folder" ... now give yourself permissions to it by "chown yourlogin:yourlogin your_folder" all three will be the same essentially..
[05:14] <codex84> no menu nothing not even c-alt f1
[05:14] <codex84> doesnt work eitherr
[05:14] <kjxl9> 11.04 is my first linux os
[05:14] <dxdemetriou> upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 I have the error "The upgrade has completed but there were errors during the upgrade process"
[05:14] <linux> Yes, I do.
[05:14] <kz3> so i should stick with 10.10?
[05:14] <trueman> Black screen... help
[05:14]  * spikebike shrugs, I've done a 11.04 nvidia install, ati install, and a server install
[05:14] <spikebike> works for me
[05:14] <Chrisro> Hello when doing a usb boot whats this mean 'unknown keyword in configuration file:appe'
[05:15] <rgr> codex84: sounds like your system is hosed. But you DO see your wallpaper indicating the video works,
[05:15] <Julie972> hi
[05:15] <mrdeb> spikebike: is 1104 beter than 1094
[05:15] <Julie972> is there smone still awake ?
[05:15] <linux> need help.j
[05:15] <canthus13> lduros: I got Classic working, but it's ugly... and enabling compiz brings on other issues, like missing window decorations (which can be enabled in ccsm.. but that has to be installed)
[05:15] <Julie972> need help too :(
[05:15] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: now you can exit out of the console and press alt+f7 to get back to the login screen. log in and if you did everything correctly you'll have a new profile like it was when you first installed ubuntu
[05:15] <codex84> yea i could see wallpaper
[05:15] <Braiam> !ash | Julie972
[05:15] <codex84> and change it
[05:15] <lduros> canthus13: i'm just stuck in the terminal forever :-)
[05:15] <codex84> thats it
[05:15] <Braiam> !ask | Julie972
[05:15] <rgr> and change it?!?! How do you change it if "nothing works"?
[05:15] <Julie972> poor noob girl stuck with upgrade from 10 to 11.04 :(
[05:15] <dxdemetriou> if upgrade does not complete can I re-run the cleaning process?
[05:16] <canthus13> lduros: Not so bad... I do everything but web browsing from the command line. :)
[05:16] <rgr> Julie972: you're not a girl.
[05:16] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: did you get all that?
[05:16] <Julie972> yap i am :)
[05:16] <lduros> canthus13: yeh except this computer is my wife's and she doesn't do command line
[05:16] <lduros> :-)
[05:16] <codex84> im on my other pc at homeee
[05:16] <Julie972> a french one
[05:16] <tase> hey ubuntu im trying to install drivers for Broadcom wifi chip, but the install script isnt working , says its not a supported card, but the PCI_ID is supported, model is supported, etc...
[05:16] <soreau> Julie972: What happened?
[05:16] <Julie972> lol
[05:16] <bizerklurker_> bizerklurker_ how can I retrieve my files and I do not literally tyles my_folder right?
[05:16] <canthus13> lduros: Heh. That's why my wife is using Lucid. :)
[05:16] <rgr> so what? Expect special treatmenmt? ;) my bet is a fat buy in the celler...
[05:16] <kz3> so it means I shouldnt upgrade to 11.04?
[05:16] <trueman> Please help motherfuckers=)
[05:16] <soreau> ! language | trueman
[05:16] <Atharva> how to start desktop cube and wobbly windows in natty ?
[05:16] <Julie972> i did launch (sorry bad english) upgrade from 10.04
[05:17] <kz3> trueman: this is not the way to speak here
[05:17] <rgr> kz3: read this channel. If you upgrade to 11-04 you're nuts.
[05:17] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq how can I retrieve my files and I do not literally tyles my_folder right?
[05:17] <soreau> ! ccsm | Atharva
[05:17] <Julie972> reboot
[05:17] <mrdeb> should we upgrade to 1104 or not
[05:17] <Julie972> un says cannt mount
[05:17] <Julie972> i did sudo mountall
[05:17] <mrdeb> yes or no right now answre pls
[05:17] <canthus13> Atharva: switch to classic, install ccsm, enable them.. and don't forget to enable window decorations.
[05:17] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq yes I got it
[05:17] <Julie972> stuck without mouth
[05:17] <trueman> i am sorry
[05:17] <codex84> dont upgradee lol
[05:17] <tanath> can anyone help me track down what package to file a bug report on?
[05:17] <rgr> "sudo mountall"!?
[05:17] <mrdeb> codex84: wy not
[05:17] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq stupid question I just never really dabble with this stuff :p
[05:18] <codex84> im having problems with my
[05:18] <Julie972> yep rgr
[05:18] <codex84> is froze on my background
[05:18] <Artarian> i hate so much 11.04 version
[05:18] <codex84> cant do nothinggg
[05:18] <tanath> my mouse wheel has limited ability to scroll up. it's a regression
[05:18] <codex84> i have to fresh instaLL  ubuntu 10.10 again
[05:18] <Julie972> no i cant od anythong on the login screen
[05:18] <mrdeb> codex84: qwhy
[05:18] <Artarian> jesus
[05:18] <celthunder> tanath: what packages is buggy
[05:18] <Artarian> thats the worst version of ubuntu ever
[05:18] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: to retrieve your files you go to /home and you will see your_folder.old in there. you can copy/paste from it the documents you need
[05:18] <tanath> celthunder, exactly
[05:18] <trueman> Guys, what to do with black screen, after installed nvidia drivers...
[05:18] <tanath> celthunder, (see my first comment)
[05:18] <rgr> lol, I didnt expect it to be this bad a release. Wow. The support forums are totally overrun. Why oh why do they release such crap on a fixed date rather than a properly tested stable base? Silly.
[05:18] <KXTwo> natty came out today?
[05:19] <celthunder> tanath: ok i just got here let me scroll up
[05:19] <Julie972> so i shloud go back to 10.10 ?
[05:19] <mrdeb> wha is the isue
[05:19] <bizerklurker_> mikinanuq okay. will try it. thank you (:
[05:19] <mrdeb> no
[05:19] <Artarian> how do i roll back to 10.10?
[05:19] <Julie972> but how ?
[05:19] <rahduke> YUP NO SCREENS FOUND WHEN TRYING STARTX
[05:19] <spikebike> hey
[05:19] <KXTwo> why would you want to roll back?
[05:19] <spikebike> oneone have a fix for URLs opening firefox instead of chrome?
[05:19] <Julie972> co we cant go forward
[05:19] <spikebike> anyone rather
[05:19] <codex84> alot of people are having problems with
[05:19] <codex84> 11.04
[05:19] <codex84> like iam
[05:19] <Artarian> guys can anyone help after startx no screen found issue i did purge and reinstalled nvidia-current but this driver work so bad at 11.04
[05:20] <tanath> celthunder, @ minute 18
[05:20] <Artarian> codex84, this is so shi***
[05:20] <KXTwo> so im not going to upgrade then
[05:20] <trueman> rahduke, i have same problem
[05:20] <KXTwo> if people are having problems with 11.04
[05:20] <bp0> you can't roll back but you can backup your /home folder and reinstall 10.04 or 10.01
[05:20] <rahduke> how can i install the new nvidia drivers? my graphics are effd
[05:20] <bp0> 10.10
[05:20] <codex84> i knoww
[05:20] <bp0> KXTwo, don't.
[05:20] <SpockSpork> I'd like to reinstall 10.10
[05:20] <rahduke> somehow have to disable nouveau but im lost
[05:20] <SpockSpork> 11.04 is still buggy as hell
[05:20] <rahduke> trueman:
[05:20] <Artarian> its shitty
[05:20] <cooladmin> Hi
[05:20] <rahduke> trueman: hyea this suks
[05:20] <codex84> yeaaaa
[05:20] <codex84> sucks b allss
[05:20] <maco> Julie972: hey by the way, are you aware of the existence of the Ubuntu Women Project? its aim is to help women get more involved in Ubuntu
[05:20] <trueman> download from nvidia,com
[05:20] <Roasted> How can I turn off the tap-to-select on my touchpad in ubuntu?
[05:20] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker_: ok, good luck.. BTW when you have a good profile... you can backup your   /home/your_folder  to /home/your_folder.backup ... then if you mess anything up you can revert back to a good backup
[05:20] <codex84> ballss
[05:20] <FloodBot1> codex84: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:21] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: makes sense?
[05:21] <maco> Julie972: http://women.ubuntu.com
[05:21] <IdleOne> !language | Artarian
[05:21] <mrdeb> should we install 1104 now
[05:21] <Artarian> IdleOne, thanks for the help bro
[05:21] <rahduke> i knew this wasnt going to go smoothly, bad omen for 11.04 and unity
[05:21] <bp0> mrdeb, no.
[05:21] <codex84> lol
[05:21] <trueman> rahduke, go to nvidia.com and download drivers
[05:21] <armor-64> hi guys i need help,i have problem with the ATI VGA(drivers)can i keep the default Ubuntu drivers instead
[05:21] <mrdeb> bp0: why
[05:22] <rcconf> Maverick is not reading a DVD+R Dual Layer which plays perfectly fine in DVD player
[05:22] <codex84> bye natty see  u in saint patty
[05:22] <codex84> lmaoo
[05:22] <KXTwo> ive never heard of ubuntu having this much problems with new releases
[05:22] <TrentonAdams> carandraug: Sorry if I didn't see your message.  I ran the metacity thing then Ctrl-C it, and nothing worked, big surprise. :P
[05:22] <rcconf> I used "seamless" option when I burned it
[05:22] <Artarian> KXTwo, this is the worst ubuntu version ever
[05:22] <bp0> mrdeb, many bugs, and slow
[05:22] <codex84> maybe some crappy developer
[05:22] <codex84> messed it up lol
[05:22] <mrdeb> bp0: ok
[05:22] <KXTwo> they will fix it within a couple of weeks
[05:22] <Julie972> ok I'm a woman but not such noob like some man :)
[05:22] <KXTwo> I would imagine
[05:22] <tanath> KXTwo, big changes. short-term step backwards for long term gain
[05:23] <trueman> rahduke, after press ctrl+alt+f1 type sudo -sh NVIDIAxxxx.run
[05:23] <Julie972> working in education
[05:23] <KXTwo> arent they changing the gui too?
[05:23] <Julie972> tring to spread unbuntu
[05:23] <rahduke> trueman: i have, been trying to install them for a half hour, the installer says nouveau kernel driver running, need to disable it in some modprobe place and in x conf, did that. no go
[05:23] <Julie972> stuck in 11.04 upgrade :(
[05:23] <nzashadow> where can I go to get help with the terminal
[05:23] <rahduke> its borked
[05:23] <mikinanuq> KXTwo: I think it's just the Unity stuff that's throwing people for a loop.. learning curve. It's like everyone going from XP to 7.. everyone hates it because the interface is so different from the previous
[05:23] <bp0> rahduke, are you using the nvidia installer or "additional drivers"?
[05:23] <KXTwo> I wouldnt upgrade I'd do a fresh install
[05:23] <trueman> rahduke, oh i see! try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:23] <celthunder> tanath: ok is it a physical mouse or a touchpad
[05:23] <spikebike> mikinanuq: agreed, kinda like going form linux -> osx
[05:23] <rahduke> tried the nvidia installer and additional drivers....
[05:24] <trueman> rahduke, after try to install again
[05:24] <tanath> celthunder, optical mouse
[05:24] <Cairo|Mac> I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04
[05:24] <carandraug> TrentonAdams, I don't know. Sorry. I'm going away now. Need some sleep
[05:24] <rahduke> trueman: im not having a problem running the installer, its having an issue with nouveau
[05:24] <mrdeb> Cairo|Mac: work good?
[05:24] <celthunder> tanath: do you have an Xorg configuratioj
[05:24] <spikebike> nouveau = broken
[05:24] <amy_> I havent been entirely fond of the 11.04 upgrade, myself. My flash player is a bit glitchy, but still workable, other than that, I just needed to reset my sound stuff and set classic login again.
[05:24] <tanath> celthunder, used to work fine, then about a month ago i think, it started eating up scrolls after a few
[05:24] <_pg_> can someone help me calibrate my controller with dead zones using jscal?
[05:24] <rahduke> ive installed nvidia drivers from their site a hundred times over
[05:24] <Cairo|Mac> but samba4 had a problem installing so now when i turn my computer on i just get black and white stuff
[05:24] <spikebike> amy_: heh, I've actually had MUCH better luck with the 11.04 flash
[05:24] <Cairo|Mac> mrdeb ^^
[05:24] <spikebike> even if I had 10 tabs open with youtube videos they all behave themselves, unlike 10.10's
[05:25] <bp0> amy_, use firefox? there is a firefox extension called flash-aid or something like that, that will get you the best flash support possible
[05:25] <amy_> spikebike, my 10.10 was -perfect- with Flash, for some reason 11.04 messed with that a bit.
[05:25] <bp0> dont use the packages
[05:25] <amy_> bp0, yeah
[05:25] <tanath> celthunder, haven't checked since i reinstalled 10.10 when it was new... so whatever is default
[05:25] <spikebike> amy_: sucks
[05:25] <rahduke>  _pg_ that is a pain in the ass
[05:25] <HealingDruid> can someone upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10, i'm having the pkgProblemResolve issue
[05:25] <_pg_> rahduke, youre tellin me!
[05:25] <rahduke> especially if you have an old controller that is worn out
[05:25] <spikebike> amy_: I'm using 11.04 with chome + flash, maybe thats the difference
[05:25] <amy_> bp0,  thanks, i'll actually give that a go.
[05:25] <rahduke> its never going to set correctly
[05:25] <trueman> rahduke, that's a problem... For example i've got black screen after installed newest drivers
[05:25] <rahduke> u need brand new sticks, and even then its iffy
[05:26] <_pg_> rahduke, i have calibrated a hundred times over, but i cant figure out the dead zones. and it keeps messing with my trackpad so i need to unplug in cause the input goes crazy
[05:26] <rahduke> trueman: i cant even get thru my install
[05:26] <mikinanuq> HealingDruid: I'd reinstall... upgrades usually never go well IMHO...
[05:26] <Lesterwood> god
[05:26] <html_inprogress> how do i set up sharing to windows on a ubuntu  machine
[05:26] <Lesterwood> this 11.04 upgrade is taking forever
[05:26] <tanath> celthunder, /etc/X11/xorg.conf exists...
[05:26] <rahduke> _pg_: you need brand a brandnew controller, the sticks are loose and jscal is too sensitive
[05:26] <_pg_> html_inprogress, install samba
[05:26] <nzashadow> E: Type 'sudo' is not known on line 61 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:26] <aaron_wayne> bitplane, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601131/
[05:26] <rahduke> and even then its weak
[05:26] <nzashadow> can anyone help?
[05:26] <_pg_> rahduke, thats why i want to map some deadzones
[05:27] <HealingDruid> hmm...any solutions that are not so drastic though?
[05:27] <rahduke> they wont be any good on an old controller
[05:27] <trueman> 	
[05:27] <trueman> _pg_, have you tried acpi_osi=Linux in grub... it can helps with touchpad i think
[05:27] <tortoise> does this page load for you guys? http://novemberblue-.tumblr.com
[05:27] <rahduke> are u talking baout xbox360 controller?
[05:27] <_pg_> trueman, ?
[05:27] <tanath> nzashadow, sudo doesn't belong in your sources.list. it's not a script
[05:27] <_pg_> rahduke, yes
[05:27] <celthunder> tanath: ok can you check /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ see if you have a config there thats limiting your scrolling
[05:27] <nzashadow> how do I fix this?
[05:27] <celthunder> tanath: that's where synaptics allows you to limit that stuff anyway
[05:28] <rahduke> _pg_: yea man its never going to be "right"
[05:28] <mikinanuq> HealingDruid: I'd say try the upgrade but be prepared to reinstall..
[05:28] <trueman> _pg_, have tou tried this parametr in grub on load?
[05:28] <rahduke> i messed with jscal for HOURS
[05:28] <armor-64> does evrybody have problem with the ATI drivers in ubuntu 11.04?
[05:28] <rahduke> and never got it perfect
[05:28] <teknowill> html_inprogress: its a bit complezx
[05:28] <tanath> celthunder, don't have /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/
[05:28] <_pg_> rahduke, you can map deadzones, i just cant figure it out
[05:28] <HealingDruid> mikinanuq, i started the upgrade but it keeps failign
[05:28] <_pg_> trueman, i dont think were on the same page sir
[05:28] <tanath> celthunder, isn't synaptics for touch pads?
[05:28] <mikinanuq> HealingDruid: on ubuntu there are instructions on upgrade. you just have to change the settings in the package manager to see the upgrade and do a "check" then upgrade
[05:28] <rahduke> _pg_: your not hearing me, even if u do map them they are not good enough
[05:29] <celthunder> tanath: yeah but doesn't hurt to check if they used the same config location (and other stuff goes in that dir too)
[05:29] <_pg_> rahduke, then map them larger? i mean thats the whole point of deadzones
[05:29] <celthunder> tanath: ok do you have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:29] <teknowill> html_inprogress: you need samba, or you can use ssh and sftp, do you need a drive letter or just get/put to folders?
[05:29] <tanath> celthunder, that's what i said...
[05:30] <tanath> celthunder, just the file. nothing else of similar name
[05:30] <Julie972> ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.
[05:30] <mikinanuq> HealingDruid: oh, didn't know that. you may be able to recover from it somehow but at that point would you want to??
[05:30] <celthunder> tanath: ok can you pastebin your xorg.conf then
[05:30] <krakpot> hi, i'm having an odd issue, just upgraded ubuntu server from 10.10 -> 11.04, and after the loading screen I just see blinking cursor.  I have to press ALT+F1 or ALT+F2 to get my login screen... anyone else see this?
[05:30] <Julie972> 6.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.22
[05:30] <Cairo|Mac> I upgraded to Ubuntu 11.04 but samba4 had a problem updating so now when i turn my computer on i just get black and white stuff
[05:30] <Cairo|Mac> anyone know how to fix that/
[05:30] <Cairo|Mac> *?
[05:31] <amy_> bp0, yup, after doing a test/execute with flash-aid, worked like a charm again. Thanks for the tip :)
[05:31] <aaron_wayne> does anyone know how to fix grub with super_grub_disk?
[05:31] <tanath> celthunder, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601133/
[05:31] <mikinanuq> HealingDruid: I wouldn't want to continue with a half upgraded system that got botched.. you should still be able to recover your files with an install CD by running ubunt off the cd
[05:31] <Julie972> ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.6.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.22). I cant do anything next (S or m) when I choose m and try sudo mountall, I get stucked. What should I do ? thks
[05:31] <tanath> celthunder, ignore the date thing on the right. that's from my terminal prompt
[05:31] <celthunder> Cairo|Mac: unless you're WM is on the samba drive it has nothing to do with samba that you're getting dropped to terminal
[05:31] <celthunder> tanath: ok np
[05:31] <aaron_wayne> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601131/
[05:31] <HealingDruid> mikinanuq, that's true
[05:31] <Cairo|Mac> celthunder: im not even being dropped to terminal
[05:32] <amy_> is there any Ubuntu installations that exclude X/graphical stuff?
[05:32] <Cairo|Mac> its just random white and black stuff
[05:32] <spikebike> amy_: ubuntu-server
[05:32] <Cairo|Mac> if it was terminal i would be fine
[05:32] <GuyCanada> hey guys, updates to 11.04 and now my function-F8 wont work to put up my hdmi. anyone know how to fix this
[05:32] <pfifo> !alternate | amy_
[05:32] <Geet> hello
[05:32] <_pg_> amy_, server, minimial
[05:32] <celthunder> Cairo|Mac: then swifch to a terminal and fix you video drivers
[05:32] <tanath> celthunder, i don't think ubuntu makes much use of xorg.conf anymore
[05:32] <Julie972> is the alternate cd bootable ?
[05:32] <rahduke> _pg_: as you use the remote the sticks get loose and the deadspots kinda move around
[05:32] <rahduke> so old controllers really dont work well
[05:32] <pfifo> Julie972, yes
[05:32] <Cairo|Mac> celthunder: how do i get to a terminal?
[05:33] <Geet> can anybody recommend me better linux for laptops
[05:33] <Geet> ?
[05:33] <Julie972> cos It doesntboot by me :(
[05:33] <celthunder> alt f1 / f2
[05:33] <celthunder> Geet: thats preference i prefer arch to anything else but others will give you different answers
[05:33] <_pg_> rahduke, so i will map them huge lol it doesnt matter once i can map some deadzones ill figure it out from there
[05:33] <celthunder> Cairo|Mac: alt f1 f2 f3 etc
[05:33] <mikinanuq> GuyCanada: hmm check the keyboard maps, you may have a generic default set.. if you get one close to your laptop it may work.
[05:33] <Cairo|Mac> celthunder: thats it thanks
[05:33] <root_Jocker> Debian
[05:33] <tanath> Cairo|Mac, in what context? ctrl+alt+t in X, or ctrl+alt+f1 etc if not
[05:34] <rahduke> _pg_: ok go for it!
[05:34] <pfifo> Geet, linu and laptops have never gotten along very well, if you leave ubuntu expect to gain an intimate knowledge of your hardware and the software that runs that hardware.
[05:34] <mikinanuq> Geet: is it an old laptop?
[05:34] <Geet> no
[05:34] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: where do i find that? it worked before the update why would it change
[05:35] <[thor]> geh... lack of nvidia drivers in 11.04 is killing me
[05:35] <Geet> just one year old...and I m having issues like less battery backup...heat ...fan noise with ubuntu
[05:35] <spikebike> [thor]: works for me
[05:35] <GuyCanada> oh perhaps its the lack of nvidia driver thats killing my hdmi out?
[05:35] <amy_> could I do a net install for server/minimal instead of using a burned CD?
[05:35] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq er... I can't log in with root...
[05:35] <_pg_> hes not on board
[05:35] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq after ctrl alt f1
[05:35] <GuyCanada> greet: that sounds liek hardware problems not software
[05:35] <amy_> Im thinking I'll swap my FreeBSD machine to Ubuntu server or minimal.
[05:36] <tanath> spikebike, out of curiosity, what card?
[05:36] <bp0> amy_, you might also like caffeine, a little applet thing that disables the screensaver while flash video is playing...  https://launchpad.net/caffeine
[05:36] <mikinanuq> GuyCanada: keyboard>layout>keyboard model
[05:36] <spikebike> tanath: 8600gt I believe
[05:36] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: thanks
[05:36] <amy_> bp0, also a good idea. I was considering disabling my screensaver altogether.
[05:36] <Julie972> ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.6.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.22). I cant do anything next (S or m) when I choose m and try sudo mountall, I get stucked. What should I do ? thks
[05:36] <spikebike> nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT]
[05:36] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq I already created a new unix password
[05:36] <[thor]> spikebike: i have 270.41.03 working correctly in 10.10, but i see no drivers listed in 11.04
[05:36] <extraclassic> amy_: ubuntu server will install pretty fast with a usb stick
[05:37] <ZykoticK9> spikebike, i didn't think it was possible to use proprietary Nvidia with 11.04
[05:37] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq I don't know why I can't log in as root
[05:37] <bp0> amy_, netinstall is not a very good idea right now, wait a few days maybe... the repos are very slow
[05:37] <celthunder> tanath: add an entry for your mouse
[05:37] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: yeah that's odd
[05:37] <spikebike> ZykoticK9: I ran nvidia-settings and it happily ran
[05:37] <tanath> celthunder, shouldn't need one. worked before, then upgrades, then no worky
[05:37] <Geet> I m using Dell studio 15....and my laptop is having heating problems with ubuntu
[05:37] <html_inprogress> teknowill,  i just want to send a 5gb-10 files  and  the internet on windows is like dail up  but not on linux it fast
[05:38] <krakpot> hi, i'm having an odd issue, just upgraded ubuntu server from 10.10 -> 11.04, and after the loading screen I just see blinking cursor.  I have to press ALT+F1 or ALT+F2 to get my login screen... anyone else see this?
[05:38] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq do I just type sudo cd /home? I did that. I types in the password and it said it was wrong.
[05:38] <spikebike> aptitude show nvidia-current
[05:38] <spikebike> ...
[05:38] <tanath> celthunder, but was too busy to file bug report 'til now, and was hoping it'd be fixed
[05:38] <spikebike> Version: 270.41.06-0ubuntu1
[05:38] <Julie972> ok I have Grub showing up after upgrading (2.6.35.28 2.6.35.28 2.35.22). I cant do anything next (S or m) when I choose m and try sudo mountall, I get stucked. What should I do ? thks
[05:38] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: are you sure the password you set is correct? try going through the steps we talked about before to make sure...  "sudo su" > "passwd" > enter new password
[05:38] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: hey, changed my keyboard to the layout and still no use. any other advice?
[05:38] <celthunder> tanath: it's probablty not a bug...just add an entry in your xorg.conf for your mouse
[05:38] <amy_> bp0, thumbdrive install instead?
[05:38] <celthunder> krakpot: is gdm loaded?
[05:38] <amy_> I dont think I have any spare CD's sitting about
[05:39] <tanath> celthunder, it worked for a long time before without any manual interference from me
[05:39] <bp0> probably better
[05:39] <celthunder> krakpot: or some other startup manager switch to a terminal and telinit 3 then startx
[05:39] <tanath> celthunder, even after my wipe and reinstall of 10.10... or was it 10.01
[05:39] <tanath> celthunder, *10.04
[05:39] <mikinanuq> GuyCanada: hmm not sure, is it nvidia?
[05:39] <jla> no x after natty upgrade, nvidia kernel module missing. I need help installing the module or reverting to a free driver that gets gdm giong.
[05:39] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: it is, i see others are having issues?
[05:39] <celthunder> tanath: ok
[05:39] <bp0> amy_, but I upgraded with thumbdrive and it still took an hour... had to fetch 30 packages yet, I guess
[05:40] <allowoverride> can someone take a look at this pastebin, trying to load ubuntu 11.04 on a laptop. this is the wubi-rev211.log  http://pastebin.com/VmSqL6EG
[05:40] <glaceman> im currently running ubuntu 10.10 how do i upgrade to 11.04 ?
[05:40] <mikinanuq> GuyCanada: I have to connect hdmi before I turn the pc on for it to work. can't do it hot...
[05:40] <celthunder> tanath: then it could be evdev the kernel or any number of things
[05:40] <celthunder> mikinanuq: yes you can
[05:40] <bizerklurker> I just logged out of nowhere
[05:40] <GuyCanada> interesting
[05:40] <krakpot> celthunder: not sure what GDM is, how can I check?
[05:40] <spikebike> glaceman: start with apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[05:40] <celthunder> mikinanuq: randr
[05:40] <bp0> gaceman, update manager will give you a button to press, but you might not want to
[05:40] <ManOfTheTuxWorld> I just installed kubuntu 11.04 on virtualbox and the guest additions are not worrking
[05:40] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq sorry it logged me out out of nowhere.
[05:40] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: interesting. ill try that, is that just since 11.04?
[05:40] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq you said sudo su.... what?
[05:40] <glaceman> spikebike: then what after this ?
[05:40] <celthunder> mikinanuq: try xrandr to load your hdmi after booting
[05:41] <celthunder> krakpot: go to a terminal telinit 3 then type startx
[05:41] <mikinanuq> celthunder: ok will try.. I've always done it that way *shhrug*
[05:41] <tanath> celthunder, so then back to my original question... how do i figure out what package to file a bug report on?
[05:41] <celthunder> krakpot: what happens?
[05:41] <ManOfTheTuxWorld> I just installed kubuntu 11.04 on virtualbox and the guest additions are not worrking
[05:41] <spikebike> !upgrade
[05:41] <ZykoticK9> ManOfTheTuxWorld, you might want to ask in #vbox, when I tried 11.04 in VBox guest additions didn't work either.  Good luck.
[05:41] <Julie972> bouhahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa smone could gimme an answer please ?
[05:41] <pfifo> jla, try `sudo apt-get install nvidia-current`
[05:42] <spikebike> ah20:05 < ubottu> For upgrading, see the instructions at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also  http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade
[05:42] <spikebike> oh heh the bot is way slow
[05:42] <mikinanuq> GuyCanada: I've always done it that way. just works best for me.. I assume it's something in the BIOS
[05:42] <celthunder> Julie972: those aren't commands you run in grub
[05:42] <allowoverride> im trying to install ubuntu with in windows xp. can someone look at my wubi log? http://pastebin.com/VmSqL6EG give me some suggestions to dual boot this box. thanks
[05:42] <celthunder> Julie972: so they should fail
[05:42] <Julie972> after grub
[05:42] <Julie972> ubuntu says can mount /
[05:42] <Viking667> really quick question about removing a set of packages at once - I put package names into a file with lines like "package   purge", and now I'm trying to get dpkg to remove all of those package names. What command should I be telling dpkg to use?
[05:42] <krakpot> celthunder: telinit 3 works, but statx is not installed I need to install xinit
[05:42] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq I kind of lost you there
[05:42] <Julie972> Ishloud choose s or m
[05:42] <Julie972> i hoose m and then
[05:42] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: yeah, scroll up. it looks like you didn't reset your root password properly.. I put the instructions back up
[05:42] <Julie972> sudo mountall
[05:43] <celthunder> krakpot: so install it
[05:43] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: I'll paste again hold a sec
[05:43] <GuyCanada> mikinanuq: alright thanks ill try that. probably be back in a few
[05:43] <Julie972> and then (epic)fail
[05:43] <Viking667> I tried "cat removethese | dpkg --set-selections" but it didn't seem to do anything, and returned in a couple of seconds.
[05:43] <mikinanuq> bizerklurker: are you sure the password you set is correct? try going through the steps we talked about before to make sure...  "sudo su" > "passwd" > enter new password
[05:43] <bizerklurker> mikinanuq sorry to bother... thanks you
[05:43] <tucemiux> !java
[05:43] <jla> pfifo: I have, it says nvidia-173 is auto
[05:43] <krakpot> celthunder: ... installing xinit
[05:44] <pakhair> anyone use openerp?
[05:44] <beoyndcr> hello
[05:44] <pakhair> any specific way to view all the signin and sign out in a single dashboard???
[05:44] <razz1> there is a stream.yuv file in my home drive, I did not save any file, not sure how it came to be there? any help
[05:45] <pakhair> :|
[05:45] <beoyndcr> I just installed 11.04.... is there a reason why it takes 2 mins and 5 seconds to boot? I never had any problems with 10.10
[05:45] <tanath> razz1, can figure out what you were doing at that time from time stamp?
[05:45] <allowoverride> beoyndcr: just came out, more bloat
[05:46] <spikebike> beoyndcr: the one every 180 days fsck?
[05:46] <beoyndcr> Yhea i but going from 20 sec boot to 2 min boot is alot of bloat
[05:46] <razz1> tanath: this is from 29 sep 2010, have not clue, google says its a video file?
[05:46] <tanath> razz1, could also check browser history and other things for that time
[05:46] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing an issue in natty (classic) where apps dont get their sys tray icons? had to start vlc up 3 times eralier for its icon to appear - this time i had to do it about 7 times
[05:46] <pfifo> beoyndcr, is this consistant across all boots?
[05:47] <tanath> razz1, ah, so it's showing its original creation time instead
[05:47] <allowoverride> spikebike: i think the default is 30 days ;)
[05:47] <beoyndcr> yes just for 11.04
[05:47] <leftist> what should i use to burn a cd with the source being an mp3 format?
[05:47] <beoyndcr> i just timed it twice
[05:47] <beoyndcr> in a row
[05:47] <tanath> razz1, check browser download history and such?
[05:47] <pfifo> beoyndcr, whats it spending the extra time doing?
[05:47] <lampliter> I wondering about the stability of wubi with Windows 7-64? The last time I tried it was with Windows 7-32 and it did not go well
[05:47] <Artarian> i swear to god
[05:47] <bp0> leftist, brasero?
[05:47] <Artarian> someone at ubuntu must fix it
[05:48] <beoyndcr> what can i do to show what it is doing?
[05:48] <tanath> razz1, didn't watch any vids that might have saved the stream? maybe have a vid player crash and leave something behind?
[05:48] <lampliter> I ended up with extra loader entries in the Windows boot loader
[05:48] <Artarian> this 11.04 version.....
[05:48] <byomkeshbakshi> hi..I am installing ubuntu..I am choosing manual installation..on next page I am shown \dev\sda1 52427\50931 \dev\sda5 52427\3221 \dev\sda6 215206\37545(used)..so I have to choose sda5..its the empty drive on my pc..then what? I need to do edit partion and give size for /,swap and /home?
[05:48] <bp0> wubi is a bad idea, imo
[05:48] <leftist> it will convert mp3 to raw on the fly bp0?
[05:48] <allowoverride> bp0: oh
[05:48] <spikebike> allowoverride: nah, it's 180 ish
[05:48] <allowoverride> bp0: im not able to do it otherwise though... trust me
[05:48] <spikebike> (by default)
[05:48] <lampliter> okay so it means either run virtual machine or dual-boot and given that speech recognition doesn't work in Linux, it's virtual machine. :-)
[05:48] <leftist> let me give it a fly
[05:48] <antiphysicist> hi: when I launch an application eg. firefox from the terminal, the terminal won't let me enter any other commands until i close the application, when I close the application it reads through anything I've written and tries to execute that, I have been messing around trying to learn bash scripts and have broken something
[05:48] <allowoverride> spikebike: what file is that setting in? i want to check mine
[05:49] <beoyndcr> pfifo it sits at a redish screen is there a way to show what modules are loading during the entire boot process
[05:49] <bp0> leftist, yes, allowoverride, what?
[05:49] <spikebike> allowoverride: try man tunefs
[05:49] <celthunder> antiphysicist: duh...it's supposed to do that
[05:49] <Flynsarmy> antiphysicist: firefox &
[05:49] <allowoverride> nah, no man pages, ill just look at the config
[05:49] <allowoverride> ;)
[05:49] <celthunder> antiphysicist: if you want to use your terminal more than one app at a time add an anmperstnd after the command
[05:49] <arkanabar> it's been a good long while since I tried this ... how do I upgrade installed system from 10.10 to 11.04?
[05:49] <leftist> bp0 ok
[05:49] <leftist> thanks
[05:49] <leftist> brb
[05:49] <spikebike> allowoverride: it's not in the file it's part of the file system metadata
[05:49] <krakpot> celthunder: ok I installed xinit and when I type startx I get a GUI.  My issue still remain, when the Server starts up, I see the 11.04 loading screen and then just a blinking cursor.  I have to hit ALT+F! just to see the login prompt, then once I log in I can do the startx
[05:49] <allowoverride> spikebike: how did you know its 180
[05:49] <jla> pfifo: ah, it's skipping the module build, says no kernel source. looking for build depends command.
[05:50] <spikebike> allowoverride: it tells you when it triggers, I've been doing linux for awhile
[05:50] <allowoverride> spikebike: im pretty sure i have changed that setting b4 last year, just dont remember the file name
[05:50] <lampliter> any reason to use 64 over 32 bit?
[05:50] <pfifo> beoyndcr, i think you can press Fv at boot to disable the splash, or you can remove "quiet splash" from the kernel line
[05:50] <celthunder> krakpot: so install a login manager like gdm kdm slim whatever
[05:50] <spikebike> allowoverride: it's not a file
[05:50] <allowoverride> spikebike: thats nice, im new to linux
[05:50] <beoyndcr> f4
[05:50] <allowoverride> ok,, brb ill find out, thanks
[05:50] <pfifo> jla, sudo apt-get install linux-sources
[05:50] <beoyndcr> ?
[05:50] <ZykoticK9> lampliter, faster in most areas, supports more ram
[05:50] <lampliter> okay. I give it a go
[05:50] <beoyndcr> pfifo f4
[05:50] <spikebike> tune2fs -i interval-between-checks
[05:50] <pfifo> beoyndcr, F2 (not Fv)
[05:50] <beoyndcr> ok
[05:51] <beoyndcr> thanks pfifo
[05:51] <lampliter> the last time I ran 64 was on an AMD machine I had for my wife and stability was not great. That was about 12 to 18 months ago
[05:51] <beoyndcr> Ill be back in a few
[05:51] <allowoverride> spikebike:  first of all, there is no man tunefs, maybe tune2fs though, your credentials are dwindling
[05:51] <allowoverride> brb
[05:51] <krakpot> celthunder: ok I will give that a shot, thanks, never knew login managers existed.  i am such a n00b
[05:51] <spikebike> allowoverride: ya I mentioned that avoe
[05:51] <lampliter> on the other hand, all she runs his flash because all she does is Facebook and Thunderbird
[05:51] <ZykoticK9> lampliter, little has changed with 64bits in the last year...
[05:51] <spikebike> spikebike: some ragging on me and read what I type
[05:51] <lampliter> okay well I can always back down to 32 bit if I need to
[05:51] <allowoverride> yah, now i remember it a bit, i think its a cmd that you make the change in.
[05:52] <allowoverride> been a while
[05:52] <pfifo> allowoverride, with 64 bit, chromium, flash worked out of the box
[05:52] <arkanabar> lampliter, you can get a PAE kernel to support extra ram.
[05:52] <allowoverride> pfifo: ?
[05:52] <Flynsarmy> Anyone else experiencing an issue in natty (classic) where apps dont get their sys tray icons? had to start vlc up 3 times eralier for its icon to appear - this time i had to do it about 7 times
[05:52] <lampliter> which is probably the way to go.. Thanks for the feedback.
[05:52] <pfifo> lampliter, with 64 bit, chromium, flash worked out of the box
[05:52] <pfifo> allowoverride, sorry
[05:52] <allowoverride> this is an old laptop im trying to load... not working with flash, but a flash usb ;)
[05:52] <allowoverride> no worries
[05:53] <allowoverride> im trying to install ubuntu with in windows xp. can someone look at my wubi log? http://pastebin.com/VmSqL6EG give me some suggestions to dual boot this box. thanks
[05:53] <beoyndcr> hum
[05:53] <celthunder> krakpot: lol ....you need one if you want to satrt x automatically
[05:53] <arkanabar> how do I upgrade installed system from 10.10 to 11.04?
[05:53] <Sirkill> oh my god this is frustrating
[05:53] <Sirkill> how do i downgrade back to 10.10
[05:54] <LAcan> any thoughts on how 11.04 is gonna perfrom on 2gugs of ram?
[05:54] <FireAndIce> if you really want to try ubuntu, just boot the livecd
[05:54] <sebsebseb> !downgrade | Sirkill
[05:54] <beoyndcr> now why whould it take that long two times in a row but the third time it boots under 20 seconds....
[05:54] <allowoverride> Sirkill: becareful
[05:54] <Sirkill> argh
[05:54] <Viking667> LAcan: should be okay.
[05:54] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: so yep clean install is  how really
[05:54] <beoyndcr> any ways thanks guys
[05:54] <arkanabar> Sirkill: maybe try lxde?
[05:54] <Sirkill> i dislike this new 10.10
[05:54] <Sirkill> i mean 11.04
[05:54] <Sirkill> actually
[05:54] <pfifo> beoyndcr, first time startup extras
[05:54] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: ok :)
[05:54] <LAcan> Viking667, what size swap should I use?
[05:54] <allowoverride> 10.10 is fine for me, however, mileage may very ;)
[05:54] <jla> pfifo: know why nvida-173 only depends on the headers then, or why the source is needed? seems buggy.
[05:54] <FireAndIce> LAcan: It will perform spectacularly
[05:54] <Sirkill> it runs exactly the same as 10.10 i want it to do something different
[05:54] <arkanabar> Sirkill: my guess is that it's Unity you don't like, right?
[05:54] <allowoverride> im not even going to 11.04 myself for at least a month
[05:55] <Viking667> LAcan: that, I can't tell you, because I don't know.
[05:55] <beoyndcr> also right before i just did the last reboot everything way laggy
[05:55] <krakpot> celthunder: well the thing is I don't want to start xserver, I am happy with CLI its my webserver.  I just want to see the loging prompt without having to press ALT+F1 this worked in 10.10
[05:55] <Sirkill> i actually cant get unity to start working
[05:55] <Sirkill> doesnt turn on
[05:55] <Sirkill> LOL
[05:55] <beoyndcr> now its smooth
[05:55] <Sirkill> and also it rearanged all of my stuff
[05:55] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: that pastebin didn't work
[05:55] <celthunder> krakpot: so add a 3 in grub to boot to terminal mode
[05:55] <Sirkill> and downloaded firefox 4
[05:55] <arkanabar> Sirkill: reason enough not to like it.  I like & use lxde on Ubuntu.
[05:55] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: thanks,ill fix that now
[05:55] <allowoverride> br
[05:55] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: yep Firefox 4 is default in 11.04
[05:55] <beoyndcr> what are the thoughts on the unity?
[05:55] <Sirkill> i hate firefox 4 and deliberately avoided downloading it
[05:55] <celthunder> krakpot: then you'll boot to init 3
[05:55] <yuskhanzab> something wrong with my ubuntu, i cant play dota(warcraft) in wine properly because of the keyboard detect something in desktop. ive been configure it and nothing happen. can someone pls help me how to???? when i open the game and press the keyboard key, it detect like something search word(dunno what is it). it appear after i upgrade to natty. pls help me to disable that search word in desktop.
[05:55] <Flynsarmy> Sirkill: nvidia proprietry graphics?
[05:55] <Sirkill> yergh
[05:56] <Sirkill> i;m ona vm
[05:56] <a7i3n> Tried nattie in a VM couldn't get Unity to work either...
[05:56] <Sirkill> on a vm
[05:56] <Sirkill> fucking
[05:56] <Sirkill> i'm on a vm
[05:56] <yuskhanzab> im using the classic ubuntu
[05:56] <FloodBot1> Sirkill: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <Flynsarmy> Sirkill: VM has no 3D so no unity
[05:56] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: http://www.theopensourcerer.com/2011/04/21/ubuntu-natty-in-virtualbox-with-unity/
[05:56] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: v
[05:56] <pfifo> jla, the kernel module is going to need the kernel headers... I dont even think i can explain why... all the functions the nvidia driver is going to use, are defined in the kernel headers, without them it would be like handing a blind guy a gun.
[05:56] <Sirkill> AAAAA
[05:56] <leftist> didnt realize brasaro was so slick
[05:56] <Sirkill> i also lost my tools
[05:56] <leftist> thanks
[05:56] <Sirkill> vmware tools
[05:56] <a7i3n> I'm using Xbuntu on a VM now... it's wonderful...
[05:56] <Sirkill> i would really like to go back to 19.19
[05:56] <Sirkill> 10.10
[05:56] <allowoverride> im trying to install ubuntu with in windows xp. can someone look at my wubi log? http://pastebin.com/nqiu6HBh give me some suggestions to dual boot this box. thanks
[05:56] <mikinanuq> beoyndcr: it's difficult to get used to and not intuitive.. I've been using it all day today and finally I'm getting used to it.
[05:56] <yuskhanzab> something wrong with my ubuntu, i cant play dota(warcraft) in wine properly because of the keyboard detect something in desktop. ive been configure it and nothing happen. can someone pls help me how to???? when i open the game and press the keyboard key, it detect like something search word(dunno what is it). it appear after i upgrade to natty. pls help me to disable that search word in desktop. im using classic ubuntu right now
[05:56] <Sirkill> a7i3n hmm
[05:57] <beoyndcr> my cuz just went back to 10.10
[05:57] <allowoverride> yep pastebin added a new capcha lol
[05:57] <jla> pfifo: i understand needing the headers, it's nvidia-173 needing kernel-source that seems odd and not depending on it that seems buggy
[05:57] <Sirkill> beoyndcr how to do this
[05:57] <sebsebseb> Sirkill: well make a new vm of 1.10 then I guess?
[05:57] <LAcan> any way to use gnome in 11.04 or should i just suck it up an use unity?
[05:57] <Sirkill> arght thats a bitch
[05:57] <spikebike> LAcan: either
[05:57] <mikinanuq> beoyndcr: basically you can't scroll down menu like before. You have to type in what you need and then click on teh icon or type enough so that you can press enter and it will launch the right program
[05:57] <Sirkill> i;d rather just install firefox 3.6
[05:57] <Sirkill> how to do this
[05:57] <beoyndcr> mikinanuq I am trying hard to like it
[05:57] <spikebike> unity IMO is reasonable, but a big change
[05:57] <Flynsarmy> LAcan: on the login screen select gnome classic down the bottom
[05:57] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: i think squashfs is the culprit, but i dont know howto fix that...
[05:58] <celthunder> LAcan: you can install gnome if you want
[05:58] <LAcan> is unity better somehow or why the change?
[05:58] <pfifo> jla, maybe its a packaging mismatch, not that big of a bug and its probbally been reported, but if you want you can check launchpad when it cools down
[05:58] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: i also have a an ubuntu installer error, on my screen on that box
[05:58] <mikinanuq> beoyndcr: get used to pressing the windows key a lot...
[05:58] <arkanabar> LAcan: may I suggest lxde?  It works for me.
[05:58] <alpha255> anyone got unity 3d working on a lenovo t61p?
[05:58] <celthunder> LAcan: and to answer your question on swap ...depends on your ram usage and how much you have..if you have 20gb and you on average use one...don't make a swap dir
[05:58] <alpha255> the laptop wasn't plugged in when i did the install
[05:58] <Flynsarmy> LAcan: it's DEBAtABLY better if youre on a netbook. otherwise there's no reason to use it
 sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[05:58] <truepurple> Can anyone help me with a problem installing a ATI radeon driver?
[05:58] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: where is the good pastebin of the log?
[05:58] <LAcan> arkanabar, id just install lubuntu if i wanted that :)
[05:58] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: says permission denied, however, im logged in with admin perms on xp. odd
[05:58] <allowoverride> http://pastebin.com/nqiu6HBh
[05:58] <byomkeshbakshi>  hi..I am installing ubuntu..I am choosing manual installation..on next page I am shown \dev\sda1 52427\50931 \dev\sda5 52427\3221 \dev\sda6 215206\37545(used)..so I have to choose sda5..its the empty drive on my pc..then what? I need to do edit partion and give size for /,swap and /home?
[05:58] <beoyndcr> mikinanuq: Wow thanks did not know they made use of the super key.
[05:59] <yuskhanzab> is there anybody can help me
[05:59] <Roasted> Is there ANY customizable settings for Unity 2D? At least on 3D I can make the bar auto hide and change icon sizes. Can I not do this in Unity 2D?
[05:59] <alpha255> that is cool
 Tehre are open source drivers
[05:59] <alpha255> super key
[05:59] <allowoverride> mikinanuq:  yep that links works
[05:59] <yell0w> has anyone in here successfully used fglrx for ati with -pae kernels ?
[05:59] <arkanabar> LAcan: that's what I did.  it's gtk, runs the apps natively.  YOu can keep most of your favorite gnome apps.
[05:59] <beoyndcr> Why is it called the super key it should be called the gimp key
[06:00] <LAcan> lololol
[06:00] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: holy crackers batman!! what line are you talking about?
[06:00] <Flynsarmy> Roasted: i pressed teh ubuntu button at the top left, typed unity, discovered a little window with 2 checkboxes that for some retarded reason weren't linked to the Appearance settings. that was all the customisation i could find lol
[06:00] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: lol,, i know huh,,, i didnt config that log function
[06:00] <celthunder> krakpot: that work?
[06:00] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: prolly towards the bottom
[06:00] <truepurple> vibhav: I don't want to use the open source drivers, I want to use the proprietary ones that you get from additional drivers
[06:00] <maddie> mikinanuq I did everything you said. It looks like a new install yet I still have the same problem :/
[06:00] <arkanabar> how do I upgrade installed system from 10.10 to 11.04?
[06:01] <krakpot> celthunder: not sure how to 'add a 3 in grub'
[06:01] <Roasted> Flynsarmy, in that menu could you change the bar to auto hide or icon sizes?
[06:01] <bazhang> !upgrade > arkanabar
[06:01] <jla> pfifo: installed linux-source, linux-source-2.6.38; same error. I think the message 'kernel source for this kernel doesn not seem to be installed' is misleading :) uname -r 2.6.38-8-generic-pae
[06:01] <Flynsarmy> arkanabar: alot of issues with upgrades on the Known Issues page
[06:01] <Flynsarmy> Roasted: hahahaha now theres some wishful thinking.
[06:01] <mikinanuq> maddie: hmm :( .. so you log in, set up your preferences like you like.. then it reverts back?
 Alt F2 --> "update-manager -d"
[06:01] <bazhang> vibhav, thats not correct
 at the top click on "upgrade"
[06:01] <Roasted> Flynsarmy, are you on 2d tho, or 3d?
[06:02] <maddie> mikinanuq yep :/
[06:02] <Flynsarmy> Roasted: 3D
 whats corrent then...
[06:02] <beoyndcr> i think i just hate the bar being on the left side of the screen I use to hate when people would set their windows task bar to the left and this is what that reminds me of
[06:02] <FearXFactorX> what is this?
[06:02] <bazhang> vibhav, its no longer development
[06:02] <celthunder> krakpot: http://nixcraft.com/linux-software/2654-ubuntu-set-default-runlevel-etc-inittab.html
[06:02] <jla> pfifo: ahh, was missing -pae headers :S
[06:02] <bazhang> !upgrade | vibhav have a read
[06:02] <arkanabar> yeah, if I'd come here under ubuntu instead of PCLOS, I'd have probably figured that out.
 ohhh...I remember....Thats for pre-release...
[06:02] <ZykoticK9> vibhav, -d in update-manager if for "development" ie. alpha/beta -- Natty is now stable
[06:03] <pfifo> jla, you only need -pae if you have over 4gb of memory, if you dont you should consider generic
[06:03] <truepurple> vibhav: Are you able to help me with this driver that won't install?
[06:03] <vibhav> bazahng : - Sorry guys!
[06:03] <yell0w> has anyone in here successfully used fglrx for ati with -pae kernels ?
 Lemme see
[06:03]  * ZykoticK9 "Natty is now stable" that's funny
[06:03] <unityproblem> natty final release not showing on update manager??
[06:03] <amy_> when using the startup disk creator and it asks about updates, etc. It won't try and install it on the system I'm creating the USB startup drive from, will it?
[06:03] <maddie> could anyone else answer my question? :/ https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+question/154875
[06:04] <celthunder> ZykoticK9: theres no such thing as 100 percent stable software
[06:04] <unityproblem> natty final release not showing on update manager??
[06:04] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: maybe this one will work better, its newer.... http://pastebin.com/58SgFsQF
[06:04] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: thanks for taking a alook. :)
[06:04] <unityproblem> updating from 11.04 beta to final ??
[06:05] <celthunder> krakpot: ? any luck
[06:05] <unityproblem> how to do that?
[06:05] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: yeah I see the squashfs errors under the temp dir...
[06:05] <truepurple> vibhav: See what, the error message I get?
[06:05] <vibhav> truepurple : - http://paste.ubuntu.com/601146/
[06:05] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: what is the next step you think?
[06:05] <MohammadAG> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:05] <vibhav> truepurple : - Gl
[06:05] <jla> pfifo: all my .35's are generic. I think the upgrade picked -pae, maybe because I have exactly 4gb so I don't get the top 1-2GB wasted by bios/device memmap
[06:05] <ZykoticK9> MohammadAG, dist-upgrade does NOT update to a new version
[06:05] <Viking667> bah. Not enough room...
[06:05] <krakpot> celthunder: trying to do that now, hopefully this will work
[06:05] <vibhav> truepurple  :- I gtg
[06:06] <MohammadAG> ZykoticK9, umm, he asked about beta to final
[06:06] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: go to that directory and see if it's there..
[06:06] <jla> pfifo: and the header selection stuff didn't use my uname -r to get the -pae headers maybe
[06:06] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: i just noticed something,,, this doesnt make sense... i know i downloaded 11.04 today, 32 bit, 11-13 06:26 DEBUG  Distro: wrong arch: i386 != amd64
[06:06] <ZykoticK9> MohammadAG, sorry that is correct then!
[06:06] <unityproblem> how to upgrade from 11.04 beta to final ?
[06:06] <Shaggy2> anyone able to assist me with my 3 monitors, I have an issue with it, I have all 3 working, but one I can not change from about 800x600 and also I want to be able to drag windows from one screen to another
[06:06] <pfifo> jla, so -pae got the nvidia installed correctly in the end?
[06:06] <unityproblem> how to upgrade from 11.04 beta to final ?
[06:06] <allowoverride> check out line 195
[06:06] <truepurple> vibhav wait please, contact info? I need more information
[06:06] <lubuntu> hello
[06:06] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: check out line 195
[06:06] <MohammadAG> unityproblem, you don't read do you?
[06:07] <unityproblem> i did but its showing errors.
[06:07] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: does that make any sense?
[06:07] <MohammadAG> unityproblem, <MohammadAG> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[06:07] <nabi1> how to upgrade to ubuntu 11.04 with CD?
[06:07] <maddie> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+question/154875 help anyone? :(
[06:07] <celthunder> Shaggy2: xrandr -output <OUTPUTTORESIZE> -mode 800x600
[06:07] <lubuntu> where is the ubuntu korea channel?
[06:07] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: hmm yeah maybe you got the 64bit version for some reason ...
[06:07] <izinucs> how do I query what channels a nick is in?
[06:07] <ZykoticK9> nabi1, you need the alternate cd, NOT the LiveCD - don't ask me how though
[06:07] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: no way,, thats just rediculious,,,
[06:07] <jla> pfifo: it looked like it compiled on install of the -pae headers, but still no modinfo for nvidia. rebooting and then if it still fails trying reinstall nvidia-173
[06:07] <unityproblem> http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam
[06:07] <Artarian> guys any tutorial to rollback version to 10.10??????
[06:07] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: also I was going to say (I've never done wubi but..) if there is a way to tell it where to put the squashfs try to put it somewhere else see if that works..
[06:07] <unityproblem> this is the errori am getting
[06:07] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: i know i selected 32 bit... let me triple check
[06:08] <pfifo> !cn | I think its in this factoid lubuntu
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> Artarian, reinstall...
[06:08] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: yah that would make sense huh
[06:08] <Artarian> ZykoticK9, how to do that
[06:08] <jla> pfifo: yes, it worked on reboot
[06:08] <test> hello i have problem, i download yesterday ubu 11.04 (correct md5sum) but when i run live cd or install on main machine then it crashed when loading, i can see "ubuntu 11.04" and 4 loading points, then i can see mouse cursor (i can move it) then all stoping and i can see only black or purple screen and nothing more. cd is working on my friend notebook, anyone know whats going on?
[06:08] <Nabi> ZykoticK9: thanks
[06:08] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: good old slack days lol
[06:08] <lubuntu> #ubuntu-ko
[06:08] <nit-wit> Artarian, roll back is not a go
[06:08] <ZykoticK9> Artarian, as in - fresh reinstall, rollback not supported
[06:08] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to find out why KVM bridged utils is not passing ipv4?
[06:08] <jla> pfifo: tyvm for help/sounding board
[06:08] <allowoverride> compile everything!
 I want to goto 1280 x 1024
[06:08] <krakpot> celthunder: no luck. there is no file '/etc/event.d/rc-default' so I can't follow those instructions...
[06:08] <quentusrex> only happened after upgrading to 11.04
[06:08] <Artarian> nit-wit, ZykoticK9  whatever how to do that
[06:08] <pfifo> jla, np
[06:08] <Artarian> test, u did the biggest mistake ever upgrading to 11.03
[06:09] <Artarian> 11.04* thats it
[06:09] <nit-wit> Artarian, do whst?
[06:09] <celthunder> krakpot: then edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg and add a 3 to the kernel line
[06:09] <Artarian> nit-wit, getting back to older version?
[06:09] <celthunder> krakpot: save and next reboot should work
[06:09] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: I cheated and used tgz's :)
[06:09] <Flynsarmy> wtf. why won't apps sys tray icons appear in 11.04 gnome classic??? have to start vlc up several times to get it to appear
[06:09] <nit-wit> Artarian, you have to do a fresh install
[06:09] <celthunder> Shaggy2: so use that and change 800x600 to whatever
[06:09] <Artarian> wow
[06:09] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: im just gonna burn 10.10 again, and go with that,, i think the 11.04 makefile or whatever they use - wubi, is hosed
[06:09] <jla> I'm liking the new unity on my laptop, works better than in 10.10; on my desktop will take some getting use to.
[06:09] <maddie> can anyone answer my question? https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+question/154875
[06:09] <bc81> hi.  i need some help unmounting this stubborn nfs share.  it's got nautilus timing out and frozen, doing all kinds of odd things.
[06:09] <test> Artarian, but i dont upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04, that was pure instalation on fresh HDD
[06:10] <nit-wit> Artarian, that is why you should clone the setup before you mw=ess with upgrading
[06:10] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: I was going to say why use wubi in the first place but hey...
[06:10] <unityproblem> MohammadAG http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam
[06:10]  * LAcan is is installing thru wubi right now :|
[06:10] <Roasted> Was there a fix for Unity yet with dual screen monitors?
[06:10] <slyrus> what do package versions like 3.2.is3.0.1-0ubuntu1?
[06:10] <spikebike> Roasted: whats wrong with unity on dual head setups?
[06:10] <Roasted> spikebike, unity only likes being on the left. But my right monitor = main monitor. I can't figure out how to get the unity bar to be on the left of my right (main) monitor.
[06:10] <Flynsarmy> Are the nvidia 3D experimental stable enough to use in 11.04?
 ok thanks for that, but how do I make it so I can drag windows across the monitors, at the moment I can only open up on the monitor I want it on but I can't move from monitor to monitor
[06:11] <html_inprogress> how can i tell my host name
[06:11] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: yep i downloaded i386 positively, however, i downloaded it on a 64bit box, burned to cd, then did the wubi install, i have no other option but to dual boot this box
[06:11] <krakpot> celthunder: ok I will give it a shot
[06:11] <allowoverride> the bios is from an real old laptop, pre2000
[06:11] <celthunder> Shaggy2: ok uhm what ui you using
[06:11] <Shaggy2> ubuntu 10.04
[06:11] <unityproblem> any body can help with this  http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam   i am not able to upgrade
[06:11] <spikebike> Roasted: heh, ah, have 2 desktops, each with 2 monitors, and it's of course on the left of the left monitor
[06:11] <celthunder> Shaggy2: that sounds more like a window manager restriction than anything
[06:12] <Roasted> spikebike, is your left monitor you rmain monitor?
[06:12] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: oh so can't boot from CD?
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> Flynsarmy, i don't think any Nvidia proprietary drivers will work on 11.04... I've asked in the channel, and don't believe the one person who said they have it working (i could certainly be wrong)
[06:12] <spikebike> Roasted: not sure what main means... I use em both
[06:12] <Roasted> spikebike, ah. I have mismatching monitors, so my bigger one = main.
[06:12] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: maybe thats why im getting the squashfs error,,, and yes,, i cant boot to cdrom with out disabling in bios the hd. which of course means, i can load to hd if disabled lol
[06:12] <unityproblem> any body can help with this  http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam   i am not able to upgrade....
[06:12] <maddie> launcheeeeer in driving me bonkers. why does it always revert to default icons in the launcher every freeking time I login? D:
[06:12] <Flynsarmy> ZykoticK9: i'm using nvidia proprietry right now without issue lol. i was asking about the open source 3d experimental ones
[06:12] <Roasted> spikebike, my 2nd one is just for IRC, email, IMs, etc. I dont WORK from it, it just displays additional... crap. :P
[06:12] <arnab> hi - how do i see youtube in the latest version of ubuntu?
[06:12] <allowoverride> mikinanuq: i have a catch 22 going here
[06:12] <Flynsarmy> ZykoticK9: nvidia proprietry have worked in every version of ubuntu fine
[06:12] <spikebike> Roasted: I have a 1920x1200 and 1600x1200 on one machine
[06:12] <ZykoticK9> Flynsarmy, in 11.04?
[06:12] <Flynsarmy> ZykoticK9: yep
[06:13] <scorch_> yo yo yo, anyone got 11.04 onto a laptop yet and tested with batter?
[06:13] <spikebike> unityproblem: try atp-get upadte apt-get upgrade before that dist-upgrade
[06:13] <unityproblem> any body can help with this  http://pastebin.com/ifNdxPam   i am not able to upgrade
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> Flynsarmy, interesting...
[06:13] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: gotcha.. :)
[06:13] <Flynsarmy> ZykoticK9: what exactly did you think didn't work about them?
[06:13] <GabrielYYZ> any pygtk gurus here that could give me an idea on how to implement an adjustment and an hscale on a video player?
[06:13] <Shaggy2> celthunder: also this xrandr -output <OUTPUTTORESIZE> -mode 800x600 how do I make on;y do that to a certainmonitor, as I have 3 montiors ones widescreen and the other 2 are normal 17"
[06:13] <Nabi> ZykoticK9: if I use DVD, how about?
[06:13] <ZykoticK9> Flynsarmy, Nvidia said they weren't interested in using the replacement of Xorg... forgot what it's called.
[06:14] <celthunder> Shaggy2: change the outputhere part to the one you want
[06:14] <ZykoticK9> Nabi, i don't think the DVD is an alternate, i think that's a Live, thus can't do upgrades
[06:14] <Shaggy2> ahhhh ok
[06:14] <allowoverride> im pretty much at a stand still... i have no idea what i can do next to get this box to dual boot other than the i386/64amd error which makes sense,,, anyone else have some thoughts? http://pastebin.com/nqiu6HBh
[06:14] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to force ipv4 networking
[06:14] <html_inprogress> how can i tell my host name?
[06:14] <quentusrex> and disable ipv6?
[06:15] <celthunder> Shaggy2: for example i'm on a netbook so i use xrandr -output LVDS1 -mode 1024x600 -output VGA1 -mode 1440x900
[06:15] <ZykoticK9> html_inprogress, "hostname" in a terminal will show you
[06:15] <BATMAN> guys i can't upgrade to 11.04 using the update manger whenever i click on upgrade it shows me an error "failed to download release note, check your internet connection"
[06:15] <celthunder> Shaggy2: also helps to spcefiy where to put them such ass ad -right-of LVDS1 after output vga1 asw ell
[06:15] <scorch_> 11..-4 when my laptop is on battery pwer the screen flickers sometimes and the britness bar comes up and move quickly.  this disables the mouse and the only way to get it to stop is to press a key on the key board
[06:15] <html_inprogress> allowoverride,  reinstall gurb in safe mode????
[06:15] <Flynsarmy> ZykoticK9: If you have an nvidia card, when you first install 11.04 you'll be greeted with an extremly ugly popup box (very strange looking thing) that says your hardware doesnt support unity. if you then go and install the proprietry ones from additional drivers window and reboot, both unity and classic work fine. at least thats my experience. 8600M GT on a dell inspiron 1520
[06:16] <maddie> Help help Launcher Icons Revert to Default Upon Login
[06:16] <GabrielYYZ> quentusrex, nano /etc/modprobe/blacklist.conf and add "blacklist ipv6" at the end without the quotes
[06:16] <allowoverride> i think also the permissions issue error on xp shows, that its creating an Ubuntu dir on c:\Ubuntu which means, the perms on C drive are mucked up
[06:16] <alpha255> Flynsarmy: even if i installed the 2d version
[06:16] <alpha255> ?
[06:16] <Sik> OK, I upgraded to 11.04 and I'm having issues with the video driver it seems... This is the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pzt.me/5rjk I've tried fixing the packages (dpkg) and uninstalling the video driver then reinstalling it, but no matter what I do, X hangs after the log in screen unless I go into safe mode
[06:16] <GabrielYYZ> quentusrex, and reboot*
[06:16] <ZykoticK9> Flynsarmy, thanks.
[06:16] <allowoverride> html_inprogress: thats a good idea, i was thinking bout safe mode, but the perms issue, will that work out in the end lol
[06:16] <Shaggy2> celthunder: so xrandr -output <DFP-0> -mode 1280x1024
[06:16] <jdsbluedevl> hi, can someone tell me why the Unity desktop is causing my screen to blink?  GNOME works perfectly fine.
[06:16] <Flynsarmy> alpha255: before installing the proprietry drivers you're sent to gnoem classic - not even unity 2d loaded for me
[06:17] <allowoverride> only one way to find out,,, ill give it a whirl, safe mode. oh and there is no grub menu at this point.... i havent gotten grub on the drive yet...
[06:17] <celthunder> Shaggy2: sure type xrandr by itslef to find what the current outputs/settings for each are
[06:17] <alpha255> Flynsarmy: ahh
[06:17] <allowoverride> if i did, i wouldnt have this issue lol
[06:17] <scorch_> jsbluedevl:  on a laptop?
[06:17] <celthunder> Shaggy2: should be able to find the errant one
[06:17] <Shaggy2> ok
[06:17] <jdsbluedevl> scorch_: no, desktop
[06:17] <Guest22122> i can't upgrade to 11.04 using the update manger whenever i click on upgrade it shows me an error "failed to download release note, check your internet connection" how can i fix this
[06:17] <mikinanuq> allowoverride: go for floppies ;) ...
[06:17] <Buzzzz> since we are talking dual screen do anyone know how to make flash appear on the preferred screen in an dual screen setup?
[06:17] <allowoverride> lol
[06:17] <alpha255> sudo apt-get install unity-2d
[06:17] <allowoverride> no floppy shrugs
[06:17] <allowoverride> bbiab
[06:17] <mikinanuq> :(
[06:17] <merther> I'm looking to create a variable that contains the name of a mounted volume attached.  The name of the volume is different depending on the drive attached.  If I use mount -l it will list the device then the mount point.  /dev/sr0 on /media/volume type etc...  Is there a way to extract the information that's in the place of 'volume'?
[06:17] <scorch_> jsbluedevI am here with the same problem
[06:17] <Flynsarmy> alpha255: it's not installed by default?
[06:17] <alpha255> i'll do the unistall and then try to 3d
[06:17] <Guest22122> isn't it unity-qt?
[06:18] <jdsbluedevl> scorch_: processor is a P4 2.8 GHz, but I don't think that should matter
[06:18] <alpha255> it's wasn't on this laptop
[06:18] <LAcan> merther, grep!?
[06:18] <truepurple> I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:18] <eventus> is there a way to enable desktop effects in Natty when your graphics card isn't supported by Unity. I'm currently using Unity 2D and I really miss my wobbly windows
[06:18] <knightwise> morning
[06:18] <alpha255> i wasn't connected to internet during install
[06:18] <mikinanuq> eventus: did it work before the upggrade?
[06:18] <jmwpc> After upgrading to 11.04, shutting down doesn't actually power off my laptop, it just goes to a black screen.
[06:19] <GabrielYYZ> quentusrex, sorry it's "/etc/modprobe.d" not modprobe
[06:19] <eventus> mikinanuq: yes
[06:19] <mikinanuq> eventus: try ubuntu tweak and go to the compiz screen. install compiz plugin.
[06:19] <bp0> merther, /dev/disk/by-* ?
[06:19] <bp0> look in there
[06:19] <scorch_> 11..-4 when my laptop is on battery pwer the screen flickers sometimes and the britness bar comes up and move quickly.  this disables the mouse and the only way to get it to stop is to press a key on the key board
[06:20] <haroon> helo
[06:20] <mikinanuq> eventus: then you can set it from the compiz config settings manager
[06:20] <haroon> hello
[06:20] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:20] <merther> LAcan,  I can grep for /dev/sc0 etc... and that gives the whole line including file system type.  So from that result how do I get only the desired variable from /media/variable?
[06:20] <yuskhanzab> something wrong with my ubuntu, i cant play dota(warcraft) in wine properly because of the keyboard detect something in desktop. ive been configure it and nothing happen. can someone pls help me how to???? when i open the game and press the keyboard key, it detect like something search word(dunno what is it). it appear after i upgrade to natty. pls help me to disable that search word in desktop.
[06:20] <mikinanuq> eventus: don't muck around with compiz too much though unless you have a backup of your home folder that you can revert to if you get everything hosed
[06:21] <pfifo> merther, `mount -l|grep sr0|sed 's/.*\///'`
[06:21] <redgone> has anyone done any performance/battary benchmark for unity? it seems to use compiz, as opposed to mutter
[06:21] <unityproblem> http://pastebin.com/L8ZPREwp
[06:21] <Flynsarmy> mikinanuq: eventus: ccsm lets you take compiz settings backups and has import functionality if things go back.
[06:21] <tanstaafl> Hi, is there a way to change the order of icons in the unity sidebar?
[06:21] <Flynsarmy> go bad*
[06:22] <mikinanuq> yuskhanzab: is it a key combination key like alt+f2 that messes you up?
[06:22] <haroon> my wireless network shows disabled in NM and when I write this command from terminal ( sudo iwlist scan) it shows available networks how can I coonect with
[06:22] <haroon> 11.04
[06:22] <SS_> Hello Ubuntu Release 11.4 had many problems
[06:22] <yuskhanzab> i done what is that.. its not a combination key like alt F2
[06:22] <bp0> SS_, yes.
[06:23] <mikinanuq> tanstaafl: I think it just keeps them there in the order they were added
[06:23] <THE-SE7EN-SINS> Ohai guies
[06:23] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:23] <yuskhanzab> when i press any key like a b c d, it comes
[06:23] <tanstaafl> mikinanuq: how annoying.  thanks
[06:24] <yuskhanzab> in desktop
[06:24] <mikinanuq> tanstaafl: remove and add in the right order :( ... I think I was able to drag them at one point in the beta but not working now
[06:24] <miles__> So far, most of Natty has been pretty awesome. I've got only one problem now, and I wonder if it's a common one at this point: apt has been very slow.
[06:24] <scorch_> jsbluedevl:  when does it do it?
[06:24] <THE-SE7EN-SINS> Is it just me or has the sound been amped way up in 11.04?
[06:24] <yuskhanzab> it is a bug or what?
[06:24] <SS_> What do you think Ubuntu 11.4
[06:24] <merther> pfifo, that seems a little better
[06:24] <tanstaafl> mikinanuq: Guess that's what I'll do.  Thanks for the info
[06:24] <pfifo> miles__, repos are flooded, try using a mirror
[06:24] <mikinanuq> tanstaafl: ok
[06:24] <diffract|> how do i merge tracks in audacity?
[06:24] <bp0> THE-SE7EN-SINS, yes it seems that way... something is definitely wrong with sound
[06:24] <miles__> Alright, I thought so. Thanks.
[06:25] <pfifo> THE-SE7EN-SINS, funny, mine was way too low
[06:25] <haroon> hello
[06:25] <haroon> I need
[06:25] <haroon> help
[06:25] <sebsebseb> !ask | haroon
[06:26] <mikinanuq> yuskhanzab: hmm I don't play warcraft in wine so I don't have any firsthand experience with this issue. just guessing... if you start notepad in wine and type do the letters that you type show up correctly?
[06:26] <haroon> I am facing problem wireless is disabled by hardware Sitch
[06:26] <yuskhanzab> wait i check
[06:27] <mato1> da yg tau kmn perginya system?
[06:27] <mikinanuq> yuskhanzab: maybe wine is messed up and when you are sending a b c etc... it sees other UTF characters or ACSII stuff that shouldn't be going over..
[06:28] <yuskhanzab> mikinanuq, ya, i can type correctly in notepad
[06:28] <Barsuk> Hi
[06:28] <Barsuk> How  to change gnome to unity?
[06:28] <roasted_> Is there a way to create hotkeys to reduce/raise backlight brightness on laptops? I don't have function keys for it on this particular laptop. :(
[06:29] <teknowill> Barsuk: install 11.04 unity is default
[06:29] <Barsuk> so no gnome here?
[06:29] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:29] <Barsuk> yesterday was gnome, now unity.
[06:29] <mikinanuq> yuskhanzab: do you have any special settings in warcraft for keybindings? maybe try making everything as "default" as possible to see if it works then start customizing it.
[06:29] <celthunder> Barsuk: install unity/gnome whichever you want
[06:30] <sebsebseb> Barsuk: Unity goes on top of Gnome 2.  and Ubuntu Classic Desktop /  Gnome 2 with the Ubuntu specific stuff, is there as well.
[06:30] <jdsbluedevl> how do I wipe the compiz-config settings?  Turning on Unity within GNOME and restarting just caused my desktop to start blinking again
[06:30] <yuskhanzab> ok, ill try
[06:30] <jonsaco> hola alguien me puede ayudar las particiones no las puedo montar
[06:30] <Barsuk> so no way now to turn on gnome?
[06:30] <sebsebseb> !es | jonsaco
[06:30] <sebsebseb> Barsuk: turn on gnome?
[06:30] <Barsuk> I want gnome.
[06:30] <jonsaco> gracias
[06:30] <[thor]> Barsuk: gnome2 is "turned on" as well as unity
[06:30] <sebsebseb> Barsuk: ok so you got Unity showing?
[06:31] <Barsuk> sebsebseb, yes
[06:31] <Shaggy2> ok can someone tell me how to install ATI Drivers on 10.04
[06:31] <[thor]> Barsuk: you want gnome 1.xx ?
[06:31] <sebsebseb> Barsuk: log out, and select Ubuntu Classic Desktop from the log in screen
[06:31] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, give me a minute ill fire up wow and see if I can do the same thing, if I can Ill probbally be able to fix it, it will take me a momen t  to install wine tho
[06:31] <sebsebseb> Barsuk: set it as default even :)
[06:32] <truepurple> Shaggy2, one way is to go into system, adminstration, additional drivers (different name under 10.4, I forget) though its not working for me
[06:32] <merther> pfifo, the command you mentions gives more output then I'd like.  It does however show the exact data betwee [] such as [volume_name].  How do I get the data between those so that I only have volume_name?
[06:32]  * AlbertoP cannot turn on unity :(
[06:32] <miles__> Hm. Even after testing for the best mirror for my location, I'm only getting 20kbps.
[06:32] <yuskhanzab> ok pfifo
[06:32] <sebsebseb> !details | AlbertoP
[06:32] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:32] <tanstaafl> The sound in my logitek usb headphones is very quiet, speakers work fine though.  Any fix for this?
[06:32] <mikinanuq> haroon: so the hardware switch is preventing wireless... it sounds like the question needs to be rephrased otherwise I would say just turn on wireless with the hardware switch.. need more info
[06:32] <pfifo> merther, show me exactly what command your typing and the output... pastebin.com
[06:32] <ZykoticK9> miles__, expect all mirrors to be busy for the next couple of days
[06:33] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: it says the hardware is insufficient, but it is a nvidia quadro. And it runs gnome 2.
[06:33] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: ok is that a new card or?
[06:33]  * vibhav is ready to help!!
[06:33] <Flynsarmy> AlbertoP: have you installed nvidia proprietry?
[06:33] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: yes, brand new
[06:33] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: is a propritary driver installed?
[06:33] <miles__> ZykoticK9: I was kinda afraid of that. That's fine though. Can't wait for things to clear up.
[06:34] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: well, yes
[06:34] <vibhav> anyody with any problem??
[06:34] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: also your card may be to new for Unity
[06:34] <Vustom> How do I add a custom launcher to Unity 3D (Ubuntu 11.4) and have an icon for the launcher as well?
[06:34] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: oh
[06:34] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: well the 3D version of it, Unity 2D well of course not
[06:34] <bazhang> vibhav, please dont ask.
[06:34] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: is there a list of supported cards?
[06:34] <Flynsarmy> Too new :( how sad is that
[06:34] <andro_> why do the 64bit and 32 bit versions have different uis?
[06:34] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: ok so it says the driver is installed, but not activiated? in additional drivers?
[06:34] <vibhav> bazhang I have refiened all me facts.. So i am ready to help!
[06:34] <drhydralisk> After a fresh install my headphones worked fine (auto switched to proper output) but when I restart my headphones are not recognized anymore (I did another fresh install without changing a single thing, just restarting and it still happened), any help?
[06:34] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: no, the driver is running fine
[06:35] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: in general Linux distro's work best with not to old, and not to new hardware
[06:35] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: and you get an error message when trying to load Unity?
[06:35] <bazhang> vibhav, there's no need to say "anyone want help?"; if you can help with an issue do so.
[06:35] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: yes, that error message appears in a GTK dialog at login
[06:35] <Shaggy2> truepurple: I have Hardware drivers, but it only shows nVidia drivers there, I have a PCI nVidia card, and a PCIe ATI Card
[06:35] <Vustom> D:
[06:35] <Shaggy2> might shutdown and pull the nVidia card
[06:36] <Shaggy2> bbs
[06:36] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: ok if you remove the propritary driver,  an experimetnal 3D driver is probablay available and it may work with that.  or just use Unity 2D or Gnome Shell from the ppa instead or something :)
[06:36] <merther> pfifo, http://pastebin.com/9MwCtkxW
[06:36] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: ok
[06:36] <AlbertoP> thank you
[06:36] <merther> pfifo, only want DriveName in the variable
[06:37] <sebsebseb> !gnome3 | AlbertoP
[06:37] <sebsebseb> !unity  | AlbertoP
[06:37] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[06:38] <sebsebseb> AlbertoP: thought Unity factoid might have mentioned 2D version, hadn't seen it yet
[06:38] <AlbertoP> sebsebseb: yeah, I know... the "fork" story was everywhere ;-)
[06:38] <Cairo> celthunder: thanks for the help
[06:38] <truepurple> sebsebseb: Can you help me?
[06:38] <Cairo> i can boot fine now except if I do recovery mode
[06:38] <Cairo> but it gets stuck on booting up normally
[06:39] <Cairo> as in it displayes fine but it gets stuck
[06:39] <Cairo> oh
[06:39] <Cairo> now i cant get where it gets stuck
[06:39] <Cairo> brb
[06:39] <Sik> I upgraded to 11.04 and I'm having issues with the video driver it seems... This is the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log: http://pzt.me/5rjk I've tried fixing the packages (dpkg) and uninstalling the video driver then reinstalling it, but no matter what I do, X hangs after the log in screen unless I go into safe mode <-- Does anybody know how to fix it? :P
[06:39] <pfifo> merther, mount -l|grep sr0|sed 's/.*\/\(.*\) type.*/\1/'
[06:39] <celthunder> Cairo: i helped you ? when
[06:40] <yuskhanzab> pfifo, u have the same prob as me?
[06:40] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, still installing, slow repos
[06:40] <yuskhanzab> ok
[06:40] <allowoverride> nope, same issue, unable to boot to ubuntu with wubi, im now trying 9.10 desktop 32. also, i think the i368 was not an error, but a check
[06:41] <allowoverride> nope, same issue, unable to boot to ubuntu with wubi, im now trying 9.10 desktop 32. also, i think the i368 was not an error, but a check
[06:41] <Vustom> How do I add a custom launcher to Unity 3D (Ubuntu 11.4) and have an icon for the launcher as well?
[06:41] <bp0> I removed overlay-scrollbar and restarted... but the scrollbars are still the new style
[06:41] <sebsebseb> truepurple: no probably can't really help you much
[06:41] <bp0> what do I have to do to get the back to normal
[06:41] <merther> pfifo, you did it buddy!  Thanks very much.  You're a life saver.
[06:41] <pfifo> Vustom, just a shot in the dark, but try making it on the desktop and then dragging it to the panel
[06:42] <nzashadow> should I upgrade to 11.04?
[06:42] <plustax__> Im having some trouble. I have xchat open. I clicked minimized and it looks like it closed it but it didnt.
[06:42] <quentusrex> Anyone able to help diagnose a KVM Bridged networking issue? I just upgraded the host to 11.04 and networking fails.
[06:42] <truepurple> sebsebseb: A particular place you can recommend for help?
[06:42] <plustax__> Now I have three xchats open and I cant find a window tasker
[06:42] <plustax__> running 11.04
[06:42] <quentusrex> it seems that the traffic gets to the host, but doesn't route properly.
[06:42] <sebsebseb> truepurple: here,  #ubuntu-beginners or ubuntuforums
[06:42] <plustax__> Anyone help me out?
[06:43] <bp0> merther... /dev/disk/by-label/
[06:43] <sebsebseb> !anyone | plustax__
[06:43] <plustax__> Now I have three xchats open and I cant find a window tasker
[06:43] <plustax__> Im having some trouble. I have xchat open. I clicked minimized and it looks like it closed it but it didnt.
[06:43] <pfifo> plustax__, firstly, go into xchat setting and disable the task bar icon. then killall -9 xchat, then start a new fresh copy
[06:43] <Lesterwood> guys i need some help
[06:43] <Avt_> hi guys :)
[06:43] <truepurple> sebsebseb: Ok thanks, though this doesn't seem like a beginners problem. Any particular forum you would recommend?
[06:43] <sebsebseb> plustax__: oh nevermind you already had
[06:43] <Lesterwood> i got this window "Debconf on user"
[06:43] <Lesterwood> i got this window "Debconf on user"
[06:43] <Eddie> Hello there... I just had my computer crash when updating the new version... I try to boot but it telles me it cant mount the drive
[06:44] <Lesterwood> it is asking configuring gruppc
[06:44] <sebsebseb> truepurple: except ATI issues,  sure they can be complex to sort out, but they are a common problem beginners get as well with Ubuntu
[06:44] <plustax__> pfifo, I cant find the option to disable the taskbar icon
[06:44] <bp0> Lesterwood, everyone needs help... but that is a bug
[06:44] <bp0> one of many
[06:44] <bp0> dont hold your breath
[06:44] <Avt_> all the rooms I went to noone is talkin but I need to config monowall for a game
[06:44] <jaymeskeller> Hi, how do I change the boot args in Grub2 under 10.10?
[06:44] <Lesterwood> bp0, what should i do
[06:44] <Nathan_> anybody know anything about back track or rfid
[06:44] <bp0> curse and wave your arms in the air
[06:44] <pfifo> plustax__, alerts -> enable system tray icon
[06:44] <zvacet> plustax__: in unity it look like program is closed but if you look closer you will see something like arrow witch shows program is running
[06:45] <dxdemetriou> if the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 is completed can I repair it? After pressing OK it didn't make the cleanup process.
[06:45] <Avt_> bp0 thankyou for your delightfull response :) I will try that after im done eating hahahah
[06:45] <Lesterwood> anyone, please?
[06:45] <allowoverride> welp, 9.10 got farther that the 11.04 wubi
[06:45] <plustax__> okay I disabled the system tray icon
[06:45] <Lesterwood> thanks in advance
[06:45] <ZykoticK9> jaymeskeller, see !grub2 but you probably want /etc/default/grub
[06:45] <plustax__> now how do I go in and manage the other two open ones and close them individually?
[06:45] <allowoverride> looks good, going for reboot ;) apparently the new 11.04 wubi is hosed... someone advised buntu devs.
[06:45] <allowoverride> bbiab
[06:45] <Eddie> what can I do to recover ubuntu?
[06:45] <dxdemetriou> if the upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 is completed with errors can I repair it? After pressing OK it didn't make the cleanup process. (sorry for the double post)
[06:45] <beoyndcr> has any one tried gnome 3 yet?
[06:46] <RoDiMuS-X> dxdemetrious: sudo apt-get autoremove
[06:46] <bp0> Lesterwood, thats a bug in ubuntu software center, there is nothing to do
[06:46] <plustax__> I notice I cant minimize windows at all with unity. They just disappear.
[06:46] <Lesterwood> bp0, what option do you reccomend i choose
[06:46] <plustax__> Isn't there some sort of window management system?>
[06:46] <zvacet> Eddie: what have you done to it
[06:46] <linux> What are you doing?
[06:47] <bp0> Lesterwood, oh you have options? most times I see that windows it is just blank
[06:47] <RoDiMuS-X> dxdemetriou: to fix broken packages: sudo apt-get install -f
[06:47] <Lesterwood> bp0 the options are as follows
[06:47] <Eddie> zvacet: My computer froze during installation and I rebooted, not it says it can't find the drive
[06:47] <Lesterwood> keep the local version currently installed
[06:47] <plustax__> Isn't there some sort of window management system? I cant minimize anything without it disappearing completely. Sometimes still running like my xchat right now. There are three instances of it open
[06:47] <Lesterwood> install package maintainers version
[06:47] <Shaggy2> OK so I have ubuntu 10.04 I have a nVidia gtx460 PCie card. ubuntu is not finding the drivers for it, where can I download the drivers for this card from?
[06:47] <zvacet> plustax__: they are signed as running with something like> or <
[06:48] <Lesterwood> show side by side diff
[06:48] <Lesterwood> merge
[06:48] <Lesterwood> or shell
[06:48] <RoDiMuS-X> Shaggy2: Nvidia.com
[06:48] <plustax__> xchat isnt signed as running right now zvacet and there are three open
[06:48] <zvacet> Eddie: I don´t know about that sorry
[06:48] <bp0> Lesterwood, what pacakage?
[06:48] <plustax__> unity just has the icon there like always
[06:48] <Lesterwood> bp0, what od you mean what package
[06:48] <plustax__> I dragged it there from my app tray to keep
[06:48] <FunnyLookinHat> Is there a way to get the Desktop Wall to be a single row of 4 viewports instead of a 2x2 square ?
[06:48] <FunnyLookinHat> (I'm trying to find it with CCSM Advanced, no dice)
[06:49] <bp0> Lesterwood, what package or file is it asking about? anyway, use the maintainer's version most likely, unless you remember editing that file yourself
[06:49] <Lesterwood> i never modified it
[06:49] <Lesterwood> i will take your word for it
[06:49] <zvacet> plustax__: this is all new so I don´t know what to  say it works for me but that is not answer to your question
[06:50] <dxdemetriou> RoDiMuS-X, it does not have any broken packages, just completed with errors without cleaning non-required packages, and the problem is that I can't find what package/s produced the problem.
[06:50] <Avt_> guys I cant get into #linux so is there another channel thats as active?
[06:50] <Barridus> ok quick question guys :)  is desktop wallpaper like gone?
[06:50] <RoDiMuS-X> dxdemetrow: you should run: sudo apt-get install -f then
[06:50] <Lesterwood> bp0, if it corrupts my grub again
[06:50] <Lesterwood> what can i do
[06:50] <RoDiMuS-X> dxdemetrow: it should fix any errors
[06:50] <Lesterwood> should i simply insert a disk and reinstall
[06:51] <Avt_> anyone can help get me to a nix room
[06:51] <RoDiMuS-X> dxdemetrow: then run: sudo apt-get autoremove to clean the packages
[06:51] <plustax> okay im in xchat. the icon is not showing up in unity
[06:51] <zvacet> Avt_: witch distro do you use
[06:51] <Avt_> plustax im in xchat portable
[06:51] <Shaggy2> how do I exit Xserver?
[06:52] <plustax> if I minimize it, it disappears and I click xchat again and it opens up a new one
[06:52] <plustax> I want to be able to minimize it and come back to the same one
[06:52] <aaron_wayne> does anyone know why i cant set chrome as my default borwser in natty?
[06:52] <Avt_> well I need to config my monowall firewall box for ut2004 in windows
[06:52] <kssxs> Hi there... need help with a WUBI install that, on reboot into Ubuntu, is giving me a by-UUID <UUID> does not exist error
[06:52] <ZykoticK9> Shaggy2, "sudo service gdm stop" perhaps
[06:52] <Avt_> so you could say bsd
[06:52] <kssxs> and drops to shell
[06:52] <kssxs> i'm a newb at this
[06:52]  * Lesterwood gently pokes bp0 
[06:52] <plustax> what do I do can anyone help me please?
[06:52] <Vustom> What's that Ubuntu torrent application with the blue raindrop logo? I forgot what it's called. :'(
[06:53] <Shaggy2> thank you
 Yes
[06:53] <Avt_> zvacet thankyou for asking
[06:53] <Mitsukaru> Vustom: deluge
 Deluge
[06:53] <plustax> vibhav, alright what do I do?
[06:53] <Vustom> Thanks!
 What is the problem?
[06:53] <jaymeskeller> Hi, last awnser was good, but now I'm having another problem. It seems like my ubuntu system has lost the normal theme, defaulting to GNOME's default. What could have happened to cause that?
 What is the problem?
[06:54] <plustax> vibhav, I have xchat open but it isnt showing up in unity. If I minimize it, I lose it. I click xchat again and instead of bringing me to this one, it opens up a new one.
[06:54] <zvacet> Avt_: why do n´t you try to join some bsd chanell
[06:54] <Vustom> Is 11.4 called Natty? I forgot.
[06:54] <Vustom> D:
[06:54] <roasted_> How can I adjust my brightness on my laptop? This laptop does not have any dedication function keys on the keyboard.
[06:54] <Avt_> I tryed to join #bsd but its invite only
 send me some screen shots of it
[06:54] <RoDiMuS-X> jaymeskeller: this happens to me all the time, I just log out and log back in and it usually fixes itself
[06:54] <Blue1> plustax: can you alt+tab to get to x-chat?
[06:54] <jaymeskeller> RoDiMuS-X: Thanks, I'll try it now.
[06:54] <ZykoticK9> !register > Avt_
[06:55] <alkisg> Is there any way to have synced "tasks" between Ubuntu and an android phone? Not necessarily evolution tasks, any app would do...
 send me some screen shots of it
[06:55] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, keyboard is working fine for me, perhaps you should try purging wine and then reinstalling, somewhere along the way it looks like your keyboard layout got messed up
[06:55] <ZykoticK9> !natty > Vustom
[06:55] <yuskhanzab> reinstall wine?
[06:55] <Vustom> Thank you. ;3
[06:55] <Barridus> oy, where does evolution keep it's data now?  i don't see ~/.evolution/ in natty
[06:56] <plustax> vibhav, I took a screenshot and put it in my dropbox public. But I right click and there is no option to grab a link to show you
[06:56] <Avt_> just give me your bottle of wine also :P
[06:56] <zvacet> Avt_:  did you tried specific channel like #freebsd #openbsd
[06:56] <yuskhanzab> what wine version do you use pfifo
[06:56] <Avt_> I will try that, thanx zvacet
[06:56] <mah454> Hello ...
[06:56] <allowoverride> html_inprogress: ok, can you assist, im at the grub after rebooting with wubi safely assist loading cd rom. i selected Ubuntu first menu, then pressed escape at nfts 0,0 screen, which now im i see bsimage loading,,, and its hanging.... im using 9.10 desktop cd which is now reinserted, however, i do not think it should be... since it downloaded to the hd a c:\Ubuntu dir with all the files it needs... 1. do i need to be in saf
[06:56] <mah454> can i enable compiz in unity desktop ?
[06:56] <plustax> vibhav, pm
[06:56] <Karen_m> with 11.04, how do you get into System->updates or System menu...
[06:57] <Vustom> I think they should have done more work towards Unity before releasing it, seems as though they just ported it straight from the desktop version. :/
[06:57] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, 1.2.2, it came from the repos
[06:57] <Karen_m> i want to check my video drivers
[06:57] <Mitsukaru> (does anyone know how to organize the ubuntu launcher? there doesnt seem to be a good way to re-organize the order apps and stuff appear in...)
[06:57] <Vustom> notebook version.*
[06:57] <roasted_> How can I adjust my brightness on my laptop? This laptop does not have any dedication function keys on the keyboard.
[06:57] <RoDiMuS-X> mah454, its enabled by default if your video card supports it
[06:57] <yuskhanzab> im using the development ver 1.3.18
[06:57] <mah454> OK :)
[06:57] <mah454> tnx :)
[06:57]  * Mitsukaru cant find any help information about ubuntu 11.04's launcher
[06:57] <yuskhanzab> pfifo,  im using the development ver 1.3.18
[06:57] <kssxs> anyone?
[06:57] <Eddie> zvacet: do you think reinstalling ubuntu would allow me to finish the upgrade without having to lose my files?
[06:58] <vibhav> kssxs Yes sir?
[06:58] <kssxs> need help with a WUBI install that, on reboot into Ubuntu, is giving me a by-UUID <UUID> does not exist error
[06:58] <Mitsukaru> roasted_: if it's possible to adjust the brightness on your laptop you should be able to do it in the power settings in ubuntu
[06:58] <kssxs> and drops to shell
[06:58] <kssxs> i'm a newb at this
[06:58] <zvacet> Eddie: if you reinstall you will erase your files if you don´t back them up
[06:58] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, you can still do a uninstall/reinstall
[06:58] <kssxs> please and thanks :)
[06:58] <yuskhanzab> ok,
[06:58] <yuskhanzab> ill try
[06:59] <roasted_> Mitsukaru, I only have that option on AC power, not battery. :(
[06:59] <pfifo> yuskhanzab, it should mess with any settings and suhe in you home folder
[06:59] <pfifo> shouldn't
[06:59] <Avt_> its not workin for the bsd channel
[06:59] <Avt_> to join
[06:59] <dxdemetriou> where is the configuration for X now (xorg.conf)? Nvidia still uses xorg.conf.
[07:00] <Mitsukaru> why wouldnt your laptop have brightness buttons anyway o_O
[07:00] <Blue1> dxdemetriou: should be in /etc/X11/xorf.conf
[07:00] <ZykoticK9> Avt_, you need to register with Freenode, see the !register factoid (i already tried to send it to you)
[07:00] <Blue1> xorg.conf
[07:00] <mobodo> anyone can point me to a place where I can find what to do with my frozen UI un 11.04?  I can log in, but when I click on anything nothing happens.
[07:00] <aaron_wayne> does anyone know why natty will not allow chromium as default browser?
[07:00] <zvacet> Karen_m: in unity task bar click on applications>that will open window and on the right click on all apps and you will see drop down menu
[07:00] <aetaric> hey i'm on 11.04 and i can't get to gdm all i get is the failsafe window, the error in the log is, '(EE) NVIDIA(0): failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!'
[07:01] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, what version
 its not preinstalled
[07:01] <pfifo> aaron_wayne, it does, it just keeps saying its not
[07:01] <ZykoticK9> dxdemetriou, "sudo nvidia-xconfig" would generate one (at least pre-11.04)
[07:01] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: just upgraded to 11.04
[07:01] <Avt_> I got the register pm
[07:01] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, desktop that is, are you using Ubuntu Classic or Unity
[07:01] <jla> aetaric: install/reinstall nvidia-current; note if it says it makes the kernel module or not
[07:01] <Lesterwood> oh my god
[07:01] <Lesterwood> OH MY GOD
[07:02] <Lesterwood> where is my bottom taskbar
[07:02] <Lesterwood> WHERE
[07:02] <Blue1> RoDiMuS-X: upgrades are problematic - suggest backing up /home/ and /etc/ and then doing a fresh install
[07:02] <FloodBot1> Lesterwood: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:02] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: Unity.  Classic doesn't load anything - I just get a background image and no menu/icon, so it's useless
[07:02] <aetaric> jla, ok
[07:02] <Lesterwood> guys where is the taskbar in 11.04
[07:02] <Lesterwood> or does it no longer exist
[07:02] <jla> Lesterwood: log out, choose classic, log in
[07:02] <Blue1> Lesterwood: I coldn't find it in unity.
[07:02] <Lesterwood> so... how do i view all running tasks then
[07:02] <immysl> hi guys
[07:02] <Blue1> Lesterwood: ps -ef
[07:03] <Lesterwood> wat
[07:03] <Lesterwood> type it into a terminal?
[07:03] <Blue1> or ps - u [username]
[07:03] <jla> Lesterwood: running programs have an > by them in unity
[07:03] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, you could always clear out your profile folders
[07:03] <Lesterwood> :|
[07:03] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: did that already
[07:03] <Karen_m> i actually like unity!
[07:03] <Karen_m> UNITE
[07:03] <ZykoticK9> Lesterwood, follow the logout / classic option to get a more familiar UI
[07:03] <Karen_m> zvacet, thanks for that..
[07:03] <aetaric> jla, DKMS Install Completed
[07:03] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, hmmm
[07:04] <Blue1> i crashed unity on the livecd in 3 minutes w/o trying to do so.
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> Blue1, very common
[07:04] <jla> aetaric: try reboot and cross fingers then. I had to install the right linux headers
[07:04] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: ok, classic with no effect works
[07:04] <dxdemetriou> unity does not show anything, just the background..
[07:04] <zvacet> Karen_m: yw    :)
[07:04] <immysl> i'm experiencing graphic corruption. using intel integrated graphics. any idea why this happens?
[07:04] <Lesterwood> ZykoticK9, i want to learn to use unity
[07:04] <Lesterwood> alt tab seems to work
[07:04] <mobodo> I guess it's time I upgrade my graphics card :P
[07:04] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, What video driver are you using
[07:04] <aetaric> jla, i had a custom kernel on 10.10 and it's been fighting me all day
[07:04] <ZykoticK9> Lesterwood, well forget the bottom panel ;)
[07:05] <Lesterwood> i see
[07:05] <aetaric> finally removed it and now no X11 QQ
[07:05] <loworbit> Hi all, is this a good place to ask a question about 11.04?
[07:05] <aetaric> loworbit, sure
[07:05] <RoDiMuS-X> loworbit, the best
[07:05] <Blue1> loworbit: depends on question
[07:05] <Lesterwood> how do i add the temp monitor and cpu usage indicators
[07:05] <plustax> I need help. I have xchat open right now, and it isn't showing up in unity to my left. So if I minimize xchat, I can't find it. Ill click the xchat icon again and instead of bringing me back to my current session, it opens up a new one. There doesn't seem to be any window management that I can see. Also, I have dropbox. I open the dropbox folder and right click a file I want to share, and there doesn't seem to be an option to share a link with
[07:05] <plustax> someone. Defeats the purpose of having dropbox! Anyone help me out?
[07:05] <Lesterwood> to my taskbar?
[07:06] <Ubuntu_user> LAcan:  Hi dear, i have now installed ubuntu and i am on windows, how do i add entries using easyBCD
[07:06] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: it says "version current", "activated but not currently in use"
[07:06] <Blue1> plustax: and what happened when you tried alt+tab?
[07:06] <Karen_m> THE WIRELESS IN 11.04 ACTUALLY WORKS, yay ya ya ya yayayayayayaya\
[07:06] <Shaggy2> I was told that there is a way to force a GTX460 SE to handle 3 displays, it's an application that needs to be installed, does anyone know about it?
[07:06] <plustax> blue1 alt+tab works.
[07:06] <plustax> But isnt there any sort of visual app I can use?
[07:06] <Vustom> Is there an application out there that lets you Right-click an application, let's say Minecraft.jar, and theres an option to create minecraft.desktop with all the information I need inside of that file to drag it into Unity?
[07:06] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, ahh
[07:06] <quentusrex> Anyone know how to diagnose a network routing issue? I have a KVM host and the guest is not able to contact the network.
[07:06] <Lopyshok> people hi< help me install dota!!!!!!))))))))))))))))))))))))))
[07:06] <loworbit> Great :)  I have set up ruby on rails for development.  When I start the server via 'rails s' it start fine.  However when i hit Ctrl-C it does not kill the server as expected?
[07:06] <gp> i can play dota with wine
[07:06] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, i can't remember how I fixed that one
[07:07] <plustax> blue1 what about my dropbox problem?
[07:07] <Blue1> plustax: I opened up a terminal window, then firefox (off of livecd) and only way I could find any running task, was alt+tab in unity.  shortly after that, the system crashed.
[07:07] <quentusrex> I had the KVm host and guest working before the host was upgraded to 11.04, now something is wrong with routing.
[07:07] <RoDiMuS-X> mobodo, I think I just rebooted but I am sure you already tried that
[07:07] <gp> anyone can help me to join ubuntu help channel?
[07:07] <jla> loworbit: does it fork away from the console? might need to kill <pid>
[07:07] <gp> what is the name?
[07:07] <Blue1> plustax: sorry explain dropbox issues again?
[07:07] <Byan> was the xorg.conf moved recently?
[07:07] <mobodo> RoDiMuS-X: version is 270.41.06
[07:07] <Byan> where is it now..
[07:07] <loworbit> jla: Not sure.  I do know that on 10.10 I was able to Ctrl-C to kill
[07:07] <plustax> I open the dropbox folder and go to select a file. I right click to try and grab a public link to share the file and there is no option to do so blue1
[07:07] <zvacet> gp: you are part of it right now
[07:07] <pfifo> !details | gp
[07:08] <ZykoticK9> Byan, /etc/X11 - but it's not there by default
[07:08] <atlef> gp, you are in the ubuntu help channel now
[07:08] <dxdemetriou> I have Ubuntu with sequential updates from Breezy 5.10. Maybe it's time to make a fresh install.
[07:08] <immysl> thanks ubottu.
[07:08] <allowoverride> html_inprogress: ok, can you assist, im at the grub after rebooting with wubi safely assist loading cd rom. i selected Ubuntu first menu, then pressed escape at nfts 0,0 screen, which now im i see bsimage loading,,, and its hanging.... im using 9.10 desktop cd which is now reinserted, however, i do not think it should be... since it downloaded to the hd a c:\Ubuntu dir with all the files it needs... 1. do i need to be in saf
[07:08] <Lorthirk> good morning... fresh installation of natty, but microphone not working anymore. was ok with 10.10. how to fix?
[07:08] <Blue1> plustax: ru using unity or gnome?  don/t know if you are using unity.
[07:08] <usalabs> wow, I just upgraded from Meerkat to 11.04, and even though there's a new interface, where do I find admin access?, such as 'Services'. startup programs' etc etc?
[07:08] <Lesterwood> can you add panels in unity
[07:08] <gp> i wanted to know the difference between FGLRX driver and the driver i downloaded from ATI website
[07:08] <plustax> blue1 im running unity
[07:08] <Lesterwood> or should i just go back to gnome
[07:09] <Blue1> usalabs: the magnifying glass with the + sign
[07:09] <Blue1> plustax: sorry dunno
[07:09] <aetaric> jla, great now i'm stuck in memtest...
[07:09] <usalabs> or system monitor
[07:09] <zvacet> dxdemetriou: why if is working correctly
[07:09] <ZykoticK9> Lesterwood, i don't think you can customize Unity very much.  Good luck.
[07:09] <kssxs> can anyone help with a WUBI install issue?
[07:09] <bp0> Lesterwood, no panels or panel applets in unity, they have "indicators" only
[07:09] <jla> usalabs: click power icon > system ssettings
[07:09] <Lesterwood> :|
[07:09] <Lesterwood> why does this feel like mac osx
[07:09] <Byan> ZykoticK9: hrm, how do I create a default conf? the dpkg-reconfigure command I executed didn't work
[07:09] <usalabs> hehehe, ok, thanks
[07:09] <Ubuntu_user> anybody who knows how to add Ubuntu entries in boot loader of windows using EasyBCD?
[07:09] <Blue1> Lesterwood: ask mr. shuttleworth, sir.
[07:09] <bp0> Lesterwood, thats what they're going for
[07:10] <jla> Lesterwood: because menus are at the top. I like it.
[07:10] <skurakai> Hi. I have trouble with setting default  OS (booting) in Ubuntu 11.04. Old setting doesnt work same as Startup-Manager.
[07:10] <Sik> Well, managed to get Ubuntu to finally boot properly by installing the nvidia 137 drivers o_o; But why not even the built-in VESA drivers work properly? (trying to boot with those makes the monitor shut down...) I'm curious now
[07:10] <ZykoticK9> Byan, you need to stop GDM then run "sudo X --configure" then copy the generated xorg.conf.FOO (in /root) to the proper location
[07:10] <vibhav> !vibhav | screenshots
[07:10] <vibhav> !vibhav | flood
[07:10] <gp> i wanted to know the difference between FGLRX driver and the driver i downloaded from ATI website
[07:11] <dxdemetriou> zvacet, I see a lot of warnings/errors in each new release and I have to choose if it's better the troubleshooting or rebuilding.
[07:11] <Byan> ZykoticK9: why do i need to stop gdm..
[07:11] <zvacet> bp0: off-topic but this will be mac for poor people
[07:11] <skurakai> no one have same problem with booting?
[07:11] <usalabs> also, when grub starts, my monitor shows frequency out of range, how do I fix it?
[07:11] <ZykoticK9> Byan, i'm done.  Good luck.
[07:11] <vibhav> plustax has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[07:11] <vibhav> * immysl has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
 no one have same problem with booting?
 also, when grub starts, my monitor shows frequency out of range, how do I fix it?
[07:11] <vibhav> * philipballew (~philip@solidwall.pointloma.edu) has joined #ubuntu
 Byan, i'm done.  Good luck.
[07:11] <FloodBot1> vibhav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:11] <zvacet> dxdemetriou: go for fresh install then
[07:11] <dxdemetriou> zvacet, the latest is that I have the unity with background only.
[07:12] <Gatoratde> Hi, I'm having problems installing ubuntu 11.04 as a dual boot on my friends' computer.
[07:12] <Byan> ZykoticK9: apparently --configure isn't a option of X..
[07:12] <Byan> an
[07:12] <kssxs> can anyone help with a WUBI install issue, please?
[07:12] <Shaggy2> I was told that there is a way to force a GTX460 SE to handle 3 displays, it's an application that needs to be installed, does anyone know about it?
[07:12] <Gatoratde> WHen running wubi, it complains about having no hard disk inserted.
[07:12] <Logan_> !away >SudoGhost
[07:13] <atlef> !ask | kssxs
[07:13] <Byan> Xorg --configure
[07:13] <Byan> I suppose you meant
[07:13] <plustax> Alright I need help with something. I have a file in my dropbox that I want to share with someone. I click the icon in the tray in the upper right. I go into my public folder and right click the file I want to share. There is no menu option there for me to get a public link so that I may share the file. Any idea what the issue could be?
[07:13] <Ubuntu_user> anybody who knows how to add Ubuntu entries in boot loader of windows using EasyBCD?
[07:13] <Byan> no, hrm
[07:13] <ZykoticK9> Byan, sorry yes Xorg
[07:13] <zvacet> dxdemetriou: after years of using ubuntu you don´t need my advice but fresh install look like best option
[07:13] <kssxs> lol
[07:13] <kssxs> alright
[07:13] <Gatoratde> I simply click continue till I get through the installer. I reeboot, and it just spits out grub and a list of commands
[07:13] <kssxs> need help with a WUBI install that, on reboot into Ubuntu, is giving me a by-UUID <UUID> does not exist error
[07:13] <kssxs> and drops to shell
[07:13] <nzashadow> has anyone tried config fusion?
[07:13] <kssxs> i'm a newb at this
[07:13] <kssxs> please and thanks :)
[07:13] <FloodBot1> kssxs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:13] <skurakai> I have trouble with setting default  OS (booting) in Ubuntu 11.04. Old setting doesnt work same as Startup-Manager.
[07:13] <ZykoticK9> Byan, no, it is X --configure
[07:13] <sivau> helo
 can any1 help me pls...am trying to install ubuntu 11.04 ,it says No detected operating system,
 i want a duel boot with win7
 i have 2 disk partions
[07:14] <FloodBot1> sivau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:14] <Gatoratde> I know that my friend did have boot manager software intalled .
[07:14] <Eddie> Is there a way to continue the upgrade after your system crashes
[07:14] <usalabs> anyone know how to fix the frequency out of range shown during grub
[07:14] <Ubuntu_user> sivau: I also have same problem since 110.10
[07:14] <Ubuntu_user> sivau: 10.10
[07:14] <ZykoticK9> Ubuntu_user, 110.10 - what that's a WAY future version ;)
[07:15] <sivau> how to get rid of this,since i wish to keep win 7
[07:15] <Ubuntu_user> ZykoticK9:  i corrected that, but i am gonna make that soon
[07:15] <Braiam> sivau: did you shutdown win7 in the proper wa
[07:15] <Gatoratde> help?
[07:15] <sivau> yes sir
[07:15] <Ubuntu_user> sivau:  its a problem with GRUB
[07:15] <sivau> nd am running from usb
[07:16] <Logan_> !please | Gatoratde
 I recommend using VirtualBox
[07:16] <Gatoratde> ok.
[07:16] <vibhav> !flood | vibhav
[07:16] <Gatoratde> !additude
[07:16] <kssxs> bleh
[07:16] <Gatoratde> ?
[07:16] <quentusrex> I already use virtualbox, but against kvm? not a chance for production.
[07:16] <drhydralisk> After a fresh install my headphones worked fine (auto switched to proper output) but when I restart my headphones are not recognized anymore (I did another fresh install without changing a single thing, just restarting and it still happened), any help?
[07:16] <Gatoratde> !repeat
[07:16] <sivau> how to fix the grub problm?
[07:16] <vibhav> !language | vibhav
[07:17] <Lesterwood> uh
[07:17] <Byan> ZykoticK9: no, it's -configure not --configure, I see now
[07:17] <Lesterwood> sorry guys
[07:17] <Gatoratde> ok
[07:17] <Byan> anyway
[07:17] <Lesterwood> the new update
[07:17] <Lesterwood> ..
[07:17] <Byan> it failed =/
[07:17] <vibhav> !about | vibhav
[07:17] <Lesterwood> the new update convinced me to switch to debian
[07:17] <Logan_> Gatoratde: it's attitude, not additude ;)
[07:17] <vibhav> !cowsay | vibhav
[07:17] <Lesterwood> the new bloat is a the last straw for me
[07:17] <Logan_> !msg the bot | vibhav
[07:18] <Ubuntu_user> LAcan:  Hi dear, i have now installed ubuntu and i am on windows, how do i add entries using easyBCD
[07:19] <hasek79> if i upgrade to ubuntu 11 will it screw up my osx theme that i have with 10.10?
[07:19] <Lesterwood> hasek79,
[07:19] <Lesterwood> unity is osx
[07:19] <Gatoratde> ubuntu_user, i have the same problem
[07:19] <pfifo> hasek79, 99% sure it will
[07:19] <Ubuntu_user> Okay can anybody tell me form which file or drive does ubuntu load. 1. swap 2. / 3. /home
[07:19] <hasek79> damn
[07:20] <Lesterwood> if you like osx theme you will like unity
[07:20] <hasek79> i was wanting to upgade
[07:20] <Logan_> Lesterwood: No, it is not OS X.  Do not misinform users.
[07:20] <ZykoticK9> Ubuntu_user, /etc/fstab
[07:20] <Ubuntu_user> Gatoratde:  it can be solved if we are able to add ubuntu entries in windows bootloader using easy bcd
[07:20] <Gatoratde> how do I do that?
[07:20] <Lesterwood> i see 11.04 works even less with amd/ati drivers
[07:21] <Ubuntu_user> Gatoratde:  i am investigatigating it, just hold on
[07:21] <Lesterwood> oh well, ati/amd always sucked with drivers
[07:21] <Gatoratde> ok thanks
[07:21] <Stryker> how do i add applets in unity?
[07:21] <taglass> Lesterwood: I have no trouble with fglrx or the oss drivers in 11.04
[07:21] <Lesterwood> taglass, it might just be me, but things seem to render slower
[07:22] <Lesterwood> like, new windows maximizing and stuff
[07:22] <Lesterwood> maybe it is just me
[07:22] <sivau> no detected operating sytem while installing 11.04???
[07:22] <hasan> he
[07:22] <hasan> hii
[07:22] <Ubuntu_user> ZykoticK9:  okay so if i have to add entry for bootloader which dive i am gonna use
[07:22] <Stryker> where is the dev channel
[07:22] <hasan> ping
[07:22] <hasan> ping
[07:22] <linux> ping?
[07:23] <taglass> pong
[07:23] <hasan> can anyone help me
[07:23] <hasan> ?
[07:23] <taglass> !ask | hasan
[07:23] <Stryker> !flood|hasan
[07:23] <Lesterwood> ubuntu should have a folder for windows files, so wine will run smootly
[07:23] <Lesterwood> it will not be legal
[07:23] <ZykoticK9> Ubuntu_user, drive?  if your the one asking about the windows bootloader BCE (whatever) I have no idea.  Linux doesn't use drive letters.
[07:23] <Lesterwood> so it will be "do at your own risk"
[07:23] <Jordan_U> !ot | Lesterwood
[07:23] <Lesterwood> imagine it, windows applicaitions running fine on ubuntu
[07:23] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[07:23] <Lesterwood> sorry
[07:24] <Jordan_U> Ubuntu_user: It's much easier to have grub load Windows' bootloader than visa-versa. Why do you want to do this?
 you used my method?
[07:24] <truepurple> vibhav: I never found out what your method would install, so no
[07:25] <Stryker> !dev|me
[07:25] <Stryker> !natty
[07:25] <Lesterwood> ah yes what happened to my temp monitor panel
[07:25] <Lesterwood> someone explain
[07:25] <Stryker> no way! Natty is mainstream now!>
 lemme see
[07:26] <Stryker> i was just alpha testing it a month ago
[07:26] <sivau> helo
 can any1 help me pls...am trying to install ubuntu 11.04 ,it says No detected operating system,
 i want a duel boot with win7
 i have 2 disk partions
[07:26] <FloodBot1> sivau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:26] <Jordan_U> Gatoratde: Ubuntu_user: I would recommend installing normally by booting from the install CD rather than using wubi.
[07:26] <taglass> a month ago is forever when you have 6 month dev cycles :)
[07:26] <MrMassiveManMeat> bye all
[07:26] <Jordan_U> sivau: Can you pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l"?
[07:26] <Byan> Stryker: releases are on a schedule.. shouldn't be surprising..
[07:26] <Stryker> how do i add applets to a panel in unity
[07:27] <Stryker> Byan, I didn't think unity was ready for release, but they have released it...
[07:27] <truepurple> vibhav: Open source or proprietary, and if the latter, autoupdate or not?
[07:28] <beoyndcr> I am really really trying to like unity but I think unless big changes are made it might fail
[07:28] <Stryker> i agree, beoyndcr
[07:28] <sivau> @jordan:ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo parted -l
[07:28] <sivau> Error: Invalid partition table on /dev/sda -- wrong signature 0.
[07:28] <sivau> Ignore/Cancel? ^C
[07:28] <sivau> Model: Imation Nano Pro (scsi)
[07:28] <sivau> Disk /dev/sdb: 4060MB
[07:28] <sivau> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/512B
[07:28] <FloodBot1> sivau: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <ZykoticK9> beoyndcr, Stryker there are other distros out there
[07:29] <Ubuntu_user_> so if i have to add entries of ubuntu using EasyBCD i get three options of drives what i do one is swap dive other is home and third is root. any suggestions please?
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/601165/
[07:29] <ubuntu> #
[07:29] <ilea> i instaled slitaz on a old computer and i cant make the pppoe work after i put in username and pasword i click start and nothing hapens
[07:29] <ilea> some help if someone knows
[07:29] <spikebike> beoyndcr: heh, fedora and ubuntu have all head big changes like this several times
[07:29] <Jordan_U> !pastebin | sivau
[07:29] <spikebike> oops, s/head/had/
[07:30] <beoyndcr> spikebike I know I just hope it comes together I really want to like this
[07:30] <sivau> am sorry am a newbee
[07:30] <truepurple> vibhav: Yes I have those instructions from before, but what are they instructions of? What would it install if those instructions work?
[07:30] <spikebike> beoyndcr: I was awkward at first, but unity is growing on me.
[07:30] <Logan_> spikebike: how does your awkwardness affect Unity? :P
[07:30] <Stryker> so if you know how to use it, how do u add applets to a panel?
[07:30] <beoyndcr> spikebike i think my biggest thing is trying to keep track of running windows
[07:30] <spikebike> heh oops
 they are instructions for Installing proprietary ATI or NVIDIA video drivers for Ubuntu
[07:31] <trihope> anybody able to help me fix unity? I was trying to setup compiz fusion and accidentally disabled unity wall, lost panel and launcher.
[07:31] <spikebike> beoyndcr: I kinda like that for instance if you click on the terminal icon all the terminals come to the front
[07:31] <trihope> just upgraded to 11.04 tonight, and i'm a noob
 Whats the problem?
[07:31] <spikebike> trihope: mkdir backup and mv all your .* files to backup
[07:32] <Jordan_U> sivau: It looks like your partition table is invalid.
[07:32] <Logan_> !noob | trihope
[07:32] <beoyndcr> Spikebike, yes but it kinda gets in the way when you have 1 app running then 3 instances of term running and all the terms come up at once things get mixed up
[07:32] <trihope> Logan_: sorry, didn't know as evident by the word
[07:33] <Logan_> heh
[07:33] <spikebike> Logan_: heh, weird, he was self describing not insulting someone
[07:33] <pfifo> "period"
[07:33] <spikebike> lame
[07:33] <crlcan81> honestly I know one thing that doesn't work too well on 11.04, at least not for me. Alltray.
[07:33] <Logan_> spikebike: calling yourself one is prohibited as well ;)
[07:33] <beoyndcr> spikebike but i guess its just still young they will probably have things worked out by 11.10
[07:34] <Stryker> he shown that he was new to ubuntu, I think it shall not be punishable when self inflicting or proving a statement en verbatim
[07:34] <sivau> jordan: how can i fix it
[07:34] <crlcan81> I already altered the necessary configuration in unity's desktop setup for everything to be visible in the notification tray that needs be
[07:34] <trihope> spikebike: not sure exactly how to do that. I'm actually on my win 7 boot.  everytime i booted into ubuntu i just had my desktop and didn't know how to open anything
[07:34] <spikebike> pretty strange to ban just a neutral word
[07:34] <crlcan81> luckily for me I still have cairo dock as well.
[07:34] <winber> study is the best way to use Ubuntu
[07:35] <Stryker> how do i add applets in unity?
[07:35] <Vustom> I'm trying to use a launcher to launch minecraft.jar, and I just put this as the command in the launcher "/home/vustom/Vustom/Ubuntu/Games/minecraft.jar" without the quotes, but when I try to open Minecraft using the launcher it doesn't work?
 displays an security error right?
[07:35] <taglass> Vustom: try java -jar /home/vustom/Vustom/Ubuntu/Games/minecraft.jar
 displays a security error right?
[07:35] <pfifo> Vustom, you need to java Minecraft.jar
[07:35] <spikebike> Vustom: try replacing that with java -jar (jar file path)
[07:36] <Vustom> so.. "java -jar /home/vustom/Vustom/Ubuntu/Games/minecraft.jar"?
[07:36] <spikebike> ya
[07:36] <spikebike> if that doesn't work try /usr/bin/java
[07:36] <Jordan_U> sivau: If you don't use my full nick, Jordan_U, your messages to me won't be highlighed in my client so I'm likely to miss them.
[07:36] <Lopyshok> help open flash card ;)
[07:36] <Jordan_U> !tab | sivau
[07:36] <spikebike> not sure if the launcher respects path
[07:36] <Vustom> That worked, thanks. ;3
[07:37] <beoyndcr> All i have to say is unity looks and works alot better than stock gnome shell
[07:37] <Vustom> Unity is actually pretty cool once you fix it all up to suit your style. :D
[07:37] <spikebike> beoyndcr: use a mac much?
[07:37] <beoyndcr> I hate mac
[07:37] <truepurple> vibhav: The type that autoupdate and are easy to clear out?
[07:37] <haroon> how I can add system monitor applet in unity 11.04
[07:37] <spikebike> beoyndcr: I take that as a no
 ya
[07:37] <sivau> Jordan_U, ok derat thanx
[07:37] <beoyndcr> but the new ipad isnot bad
[07:38] <winber> maybe
[07:38] <sivau> Jordan_U, how to fix that problm dear
[07:38] <spikebike> I used a mac a year or two ago and the new unity seems VERY VERY similar to what I remember
[07:38] <haroon> how I can add gnome applets in 11.04
 No support for applets in 11.04
 But you can use gdesklets
[07:38] <beoyndcr> I dont think they have launcher yet
[07:39] <Vustom> One last thing, I've removed Evolution and installed Thunderbird, I've installed the thunderbird applicator but it only shows up within that mail icon when it's already launched, how can I add a link there to launch Thunderbird like there is for Pidgin?
[07:39] <winber> yeah, i think ubuntu is the similar with macos
[07:39] <Jordan_U> sivau: Run "sudo fdisk /dev/sda" and pastebin the output. It will bring up a new prompt, don't type anything further untill I tell you to.
[07:39] <Jordan_U> !ot | spikebike winber
[07:40] <spikebike> Jordan_U: discussing the osx docs vs unity dock is ot?
[07:40] <haroon> is there any way add custom panels (like 10.04 allow us to add four panels) and can I customize it
[07:40] <lumbert> Getting an error when trying to do a live session of ubuntu 11.04. ||initramfs||  using the same usb stick earlier today on another machine worked fine, this is an x64 compatible machine
[07:40] <Jordan_U> spikebike: Yes. This is an Ubuntu support channel, not an Ubuntu discussion channel.
[07:40] <pfifo> lumbert, what is the error
[07:40] <Ubuntu_user_> how do you access terminal or other system settings in 1.04 unity view without changing to classic
[07:40] <winber> OK~
[07:40] <MK``> !Oneiric
[07:41] <pfifo> Ubuntu_user_, terminal is in apps, "gnome-terminal" setting are in the logout button
[07:41] <zvacet> spikebike: yes,because that doesn´t help any body  :)
[07:41] <lumbert> is there error logged anywhere? it just references initramfs, busybox 1.17 and something about live..
[07:41] <haroon> I am just facing issue on wifi is disabled I search alot and add broad com and b43 driver but no change
[07:41] <linux> gnibbles game
[07:41] <winber> ok i will change to there, thx
[07:41] <Ubuntu_user_> ohh.....and apps like gparted etc
[07:42] <AbuMaia> Is anyone else seeing Banshee not showing as active in the Unity launcher while running?
[07:42] <pfifo> lumbert, at that point in the boot process, everything is logged to the screen
[07:42] <vibhav> I have a problem .. where is the ire effect availble in compiz?
[07:42] <vibhav> I have a problem .. where is the fire effect availble in compiz?
[07:42] <Jordan_U> !ccsm | vibhav
[07:42] <lumbert> so nothing was written to my flash drive?
[07:43] <vibhav> no but there is no fire effect only watter effect in compiz Jordan_U
[07:43] <Logan_> vibhav: I saw that as well.  They must have removed that effect.
[07:43] <Stryker> there is a fire effect vibhav
[07:43] <pfifo> lumbert, no it wont write boot error logs to your flash drive
[07:43] <Stryker> oh, they removed it?
[07:43] <AbuMaia> vibhav: it may be a separate plugin
[07:43] <Jordan_U> vibhav: Fire is likely in the compiz-plugins-extra package.
[07:43] <sivau> Jordan_U, done
[07:43] <Stryker> i used compiz when it wasn't called compiz
[07:44] <sivau> pasted
 installling that package...
[07:44] <taglass> Stryker: I have compiz on vinyl
[07:44] <Stryker> sivau, what is the link?
[07:44] <Shaggy2> how do I install xinerama?
[07:44] <lumbert> pfifo, is what i mentioned enough information?
[07:44] <Jordan_U> sivau: Please post the pastebin URL here.
[07:45] <pfifo> lumbert, "something about live" is not
[07:45] <Logan_> !xinerama | Shaggy2
 Installed that package , where do i get the fire??
[07:45] <Stryker> taglass, i got beryl on my 1st gen tape dirve
[07:45] <sivau> Stryker, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601167/
[07:45] <crlcan81> how does one go about customizing the menu buttons, the close program, minimize, maximize ones? I don't like em on  the left, or those style buttons.
 Installed that package , where do i get the fire??
 Installed that package (compiz-plugins-extra) , where do i get the fire??
[07:46] <sivau> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601167/
[07:46] <Jordan_U> vibhav: I saw your question the first time (and second, and third...) . Please don't repeat yourself.
[07:46] <vibhav> ok
[07:47] <vibhav> Jordan_U then tell me how?
[07:47] <Jordan_U> vibhav: Please be patient. I'm trying to help multiple people at once right now.
[07:48] <HawkEye234> Hey, how do I access the files on a disc on a ubuntu server?
[07:48] <zvacet> vibhav: type ccsm and then start looking for fire effect
[07:48] <lumbert> bleh, is it possible for me to get it to write the text output on the screen to a file, i can't find anything to write with ;\
[07:48] <Jordan_U> sivau: Do you have good backups of all your data?
[07:48] <FREDDYP> HEY I AM USING 10.04. EVERY OTHER WEEK MY FILE SYSTEM BECOMES CORRUPT. STUFF VITAL TO BOOTING UBUNTU. WHY IS IT DOING THIS
[07:48] <HawkEye234> What is the path to the disc drive on a ubuntu server?
[07:48] <Jordan_U> !caps | FREDDYP
[07:49] <taglass> lumbert: digital camera?
[07:49] <pfifo> lumbert, unfortunatly no
[07:49] <FREDDYP> ok
[07:49] <lumbert> i thought of that, my phone camera is shite, i'll try though
[07:49] <lumbert> brb, thanks
[07:49] <sivau> Jordan_U, u mean win 7backup? no dear
[07:49] <zubair_> is it monitor possible monitor system ram cpu usage and other system states in top panel
[07:49] <zubair_> 11.04
[07:49] <Jordan_U> FREDDYP: What happens when you try to boot? Have you checked the drive's S.M.A.R.T status?
[07:50] <Jordan_U> sivau: You should always have backups, no matter what you're doing.
[07:50] <FREDDYP> it varies. on the last time it complained about a font missing. before that i think it was could not mount or find errors, but not related to a font.
[07:50] <FREDDYP> i don't delete nothing myself
[07:51] <HawkEye234> How do I copy the files from a disc into my local folder on ubuntu server?
[07:51] <virgilivs> i just tried upgrading from to 11.04. the upgrade failed. it froze. Is there any way to resume or restart the installation? It died at configuring udisks
[07:51] <sivau> Jordan_U, i dont mind losing data from c drive, but iwant keep data of d drive
[07:52] <sivau> and i dont wan to lose win 7 too
[07:52] <Shaggy2> how do I get my 5.1 speakers to work in ubuntu 10.04
[07:52] <Jordan_U> sivau: I am 95% sure that typing 'w' at the current prompt in your terminal will fix your problem, but there is a chance that you're getting the error because you're using something I'm not familiar with, like Windows Dynamic Disks.
[07:52] <genupulas> virgilivs:  i think even though u abort the upgrade if u start again then it will continue fromwhere its stopped ....just retsart the system
[07:52] <Shaggy2> more to the point of my onboard sound card that supports 5.1 and seperate the front panel to look like a second card
[07:53] <sivau> Jordan_U,  shal i type w?
[07:53] <MACscr> how can i upgrade to natty without having all of my third party ppa's being updated as well? My update keeps failing because some of them dont have natty repo's
[07:53] <jiohdi> MACscr: copy them to a file and remove them until after the upgrade, then just pop them back in
[07:53] <virgilivs> genupulas: I didn't abort it though. The kernel panicked, the display and peripherals froze, and I manually turned off the machine. It's running 11.04 now as if everything is fine
[07:54] <crlcan81> most of those ones, I really didn't need.
[07:54] <virgilivs> genupulas: but everything is NOT fine because it didn't complete installation.
[07:54] <zvacet> MACscr: you have to disable all third party repos before upgrade
[07:54] <Jordan_U> sivau: It's your decision. If you have another drive (not just another partition) you can save a backup copy of your partition table and you should be able to restore it if anything goes wrong.
[07:54] <MACscr> zvacet: quick way to do that?
[07:54] <jiohdi> MACscr: in synaptic under repositories
[07:54] <crlcan81> I don't know if I missed it but did someone mention how to alter those three buttons in natty, or is there a way?
[07:55] <sivau> Jordan_U,  done"the partition table has been altered"..wats next step?
[07:55] <yigal> does anyone use vim and has just installed 11.04?  I don't have syntax highlighting and I was wondering if anyone has/had a similar issue, or or fixed this?
[07:55] <zvacet> MACscr: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list  put # in front of ppa lines save and close  sudo apt-get update
[07:55] <lumbert> pfifo; http://i.imgur.com/e87dW.jpg
[07:55] <Jordan_U> sivau: Pastebin the output of "sudo parted -l" again. You should get no error this time, and the installer should recognise your current partitions.
[07:56] <virgilivs> yigal: its because you consented to let it overrwrite your vimrc file
[07:56] <MACscr> zvacet: how is it that there are repos that i have though that arent in there
[07:56] <jiohdi> MACscr: in synaptic you just need to uncheck them and you can recheck them later
[07:56] <yigal> virgilivs: no that's not what happened
[07:56] <yigal> virgilivs: I still have my vimrc file
[07:56] <virgilivs> maybe it installed another one that has higher priority in your environment
[07:57] <taglass> yigal: try installing vim-gnome or just vim  The vim that ships by default is pretty stripped down
[07:57] <yigal> virgilivs: no because even manually :syn on fails
[07:57] <pfifo> lumbert, what filesystem is on the USB?
[07:57] <sakuramboo> is there any way to separate the unity menu? in gnome 2.x, i had sub folders for my games and would like to keep them, instead of just having one giant list
[07:57] <sivau> Jordan_U, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601175/
[07:57] <yigal> taglass: I know, but I have both installed
[07:58] <lumbert> fat32
[07:58] <yigal> taglass: there is no vim-full in 11.04 which I find interesting
[07:58] <virgilivs> damn it... why did I upgrade just to have these stupid new panels imposed on me
[07:58] <truepurple> vibhav: Can you source these instructions for me? I need to be able to determine if I can trust them
[07:58] <crlcan81> sakuramboo: I use cairo dock as a secondary panel setup, lets me do that.
[07:58] <jiohdi> virgilivs: you can change to classic or some other desktop
[07:58] <crlcan81> That was my original 'panel' replacement, in gnome enviroment, and it still works in unity.
[07:58] <virgilivs> jiohdi: do you have any idea how to re-upgrade? Mine did not compelte.
[07:59] <sakuramboo> crlcan81: well, see, thats the problem, i have over 50 games, hense why i separated them by genre
[07:59] <crlcan81> ... that's what cairodock does
[07:59] <crlcan81> it uses the OLD style menu
[07:59] <crlcan81> with genre seperation
[07:59] <crlcan81> I've got .. 133 at least.
[07:59] <crlcan81> including emulators
[07:59] <FloodBot1> crlcan81: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:59] <jiohdi> virgilivs: first try sudo apt-get install -f to resolve any hanging issues and then apt-get update followed by apt-get upgrade
[08:00] <sivau> Jordan_U, shalli try installing now
[08:00] <Jordan_U> sivau: Yes.
[08:00] <virgilivs> jiohdi: thnaks, I'll try
[08:00] <pfifo> lumbert, how did you make the USB?
[08:00] <sakuramboo> but, no way to do it with the unity menu? i actually like the unity menu and would like to utilize it
[08:01] <lumbert> tool shown on ubuntu's site, let me find the name
[08:01] <sivau> Jordan_U,  appreciated,thax u so much 4 ur help.may god bless u brother
[08:01] <Jordan_U> sivau: You're welcome.
[08:01] <lumbert> Universal-USB-Installer-1.8.4.4.exe
[08:01] <ubunto904> Hi~
[08:01] <crlcan81> As far as I know, no, but I've not used it as long as others. Just started about 4 or so hours ago, if that.
[08:01] <laughtrip> i just upgraded from 10.10 to 11.x yesterday and since then my box is unable to mount my data drive (i have an os drive and a separate 1 TB data drive). i got the "bad geometry" error. i have not found any relevant solutions in google or ubuntu's site. anyone know what i should do?
[08:02] <jiohdi> pfifo: you might also look for unetbooten
[08:02] <crlcan81> I already knew that something like this was coming with unity, so I kept cairo the way I liked and kept the conf files for that and grub.
[08:03] <sakuramboo> crlcan81: same here, just started playing with it an hour ago, still reinstalling all packages that didnt make it in the upgrade
[08:03] <Jordan_U> laughtrip: Can you try mounting the partition manually and pastebin the exact error message?
[08:03] <crlcan81> Most of the packages that didn't come with the upgrade haven't been an issue with me, yet, sakuramboo
[08:03] <adzy> anyone know how i make my VM fullscreen?
[08:04] <ranjithsiji> hai
[08:04] <adzy> i downloaded vmware tools but notsure how to install them
[08:04] <pfifo> lumbert, do you have a linux system available to you to follow linux based how to's for making bootable USBs?
[08:04] <sakuramboo> crlcan81: well, some graphics and development packages i need and didnt make it, so yeah, theres a lot of packages that need to be reinstalled
[08:04] <lumbert> yes
[08:04] <DirtyDawg> adzy: if its vmware if i recall correctly, when inside the vm do ctrl-alt-enter
[08:04] <lumbert> but the drive worked in another machine earlier today
[08:05] <sakuramboo> but, i had to do this with every version, so i wrote a script that handled adding the PPAs and installing all packages for me
[08:05] <virgilivs> jiohdi: it told me to run dpkg --configure a.... oy vey
[08:05] <adzy> thanks dirty dawg ;) worked a treat
[08:05] <DirtyDawg> np
[08:05] <yigal> virgilivs: I'm just going to build the latest vim from git, why not
[08:05] <jiohdi> virgilivs: what happened when you tried that?
[08:06] <crlcan81> sakuramboo So far my only major complaint with unity is it's integration with desktop wall on compiz, I prefer desktop cube. Plus some of the upgrading didn't let me install debs from link, aka downloading a deb and having it open in software center. It keeps saying the listed file doesn't exist in repositories.
[08:06] <adzy> the new ubuntu reminds me of fedora alot!
[08:06] <pfifo> lumbert, the problem is that, the initramfs is supposed to wait a few seconds for your USB device to be ready, but its not so it cant find the needed files. I recommend installing grub2 and using the isoboot method, but I cant find a good guide for it... yet
[08:06] <virgilivs> jiohdi: it's doing it... just taking forever as expected. it's just that its 3AM here
[08:06] <truepurple> So far my only major complaint of unity is that it doesn't work for me
[08:06] <jiohdi> 3am here too
[08:06] <xubuntu> hello
[08:06] <jiohdi> truepurple: its a work in progress, not ready for prime time player in the opinion of many
[08:07] <virgilivs> jiohdi: I'm used to Arch Linux idiosyncrasies and updating things incrementally
[08:07] <pfifo> lumbert, different machines have different USB controllers, and some chipsets are faster than others
[08:07] <sakuramboo> crlcan81: you can change the desktop wall with ccsm and i read on a blog somewhere about how to install deb files
[08:07] <xubuntu> join /#ubuntu-ko
[08:07] <truepurple> jiohdi: Could you help me figure out a ATI driver problem that is possibly related?
[08:07] <crlcan81> Does anyone know how to alter the unity menu to split up the applications more like the old style? Or how to move the buttons for minimize/maximize/close program to the right again?
[08:07] <jiohdi> virgilivs: I find the best way is to start the upgrade about a month out while in beta and then just let it gradually upgrade... by opening day, its all done
[08:07] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL
[08:07] <lumbert> they both asus p8p67 , same chipset
[08:07] <rubydiamond> Guys I had installed ufw.. now I removed it .. but config files for it are still sitting in my Ubuntu
[08:07] <rubydiamond> how to remove those config files too
[08:08] <rubydiamond> I tried autoremove and purge
[08:08] <pfifo> lumbert, this page explains how to make a grub2 isoboot setup but dosent explain how to install grub2 http://www.ubuntudoctor.com/content/blog/08/ISO-Booting-with-Grub-2-in-Ubuntu
[08:08] <virgilivs> jiohdi: i'll try to remember that
[08:08] <jiohdi> truepurple: I have only been playing with linux a bit over 2 years and not that skilled yet
[08:08] <xubuntu> 저...
[08:08] <DirtyDawg> xubuntu: /join #ubuntu-ko
[08:08] <crlcan81> sakuramboo: I tried to, but when I did it said unity needed them, you sure you want to do that?
[08:08] <truepurple> Can anyone help?
[08:08] <xubuntu> join #ubuntu-ko
[08:08] <lumbert> pfifo; thanks going to tinker, bbl
[08:08] <DirtyDawg> do /join
[08:08] <jiohdi> truepurple: state the nature of your emergency ... if someone knows they answer they will tell you
[08:09] <pfifo> lumbert, regardless of chipsets and computers, the problem is that the deice is not ready
[08:09] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL
[08:09] <sakuramboo> well, all in all, im liking it, of course there is a lot of things broken now because of the change and will take some getting used to, but i actually have high hopes for unity
[08:09] <virgilivs> jiohdi: well, I tried apt-get update and upgrade and it thinks everythnig is fine
[08:09] <virgilivs> jiohdi: but what does it know
[08:10] <jiohdi> virgilivs: type lsb_release -a and see what it tells you
[08:10] <plustax> Anyone else notice a slight bit of lag in 11.04? Any way I can fix this?
[08:10] <yigal> sakuramboo: I like unity quite a lot from the little I've used it
[08:10] <virgilivs> jiohdi: everything reads nominal
[08:10] <jiohdi> what does it say you are running
[08:10] <cxh> good everyone
[08:11] <virgilivs> 11.04, natty, etc
[08:11] <truepurple>  I failed to install a ATI driver from additional drivers, http://pastebin.com/9iC0sCwL Can someone please help make this work?
[08:11] <al_cell> Is there
[08:11] <jiohdi> virgilivs: than you should be ok... what seems missing?
[08:11] <stefg> truepurple: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/745723 and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/709505
[08:12] <virgilivs> jiohdi: not sure. the upgrade failed at configuring udisks with "5 minutes remaining" for the entire upgrade process. The system completely froze. I had to manually restart
[08:12] <jiohdi> virgilivs: so is anything not working at the moment?
[08:12] <hello> hello
[08:12] <al_cell> A way to reduce the size of the unity file/app search thingy?
[08:12] <pfifo> hello, hello
[08:13] <stefg> !info ccsm | al_cell
[08:13] <plustax> Anyone else notice a slight bit of lag in 11.04? Any way I can fix this?
[08:13] <hello> where are you from
[08:13] <hello> ?
[08:13] <crlcan81> Does anyone who has more unity experience then sakuramboo and I know for sure if it's safe to switch from desktop wall to desktop cube if unity says it needs it, on compiz?
[08:13] <DeathKnight> stefg, wow! why does ccsm doesnt exist in natty?
[08:13] <virgilivs> jiohdi: not that I can tell, but it's still significant that it didn't finish, dont you think? it means there are now possibly dependency problems
[08:13] <crlcan81> it does death..
[08:13] <yigal> virgilivs: have you done a fsck.<file-system>? yet?
[08:14] <crlcan81> deathknight: It's just setup differently then you expect.
[08:14] <stefg> al_cell: there is tehe compiz config settings manager ... don't know why the renamed it or where it got stuffed away.
[08:14] <virgilivs> no
[08:14] <DeathKnight> ah.. ok
[08:14] <kylee> Does Ubuntu work good for a LAMP server?
[08:14] <stefg> !info simple-ccsm
[08:14] <stefg> there we have it
[08:14] <al_cell> Stefg: thanx i'll look into it
[08:14] <truepurple> stefg: ok thanks, how do I uninstall, and how do I install the open source?
[08:14] <adzy> anyone know how to get that new sidebar up for ubuntu 11.04
[08:14] <adzy> ???
[08:14] <jiohdi> virgilivs: apt-get install -f should fix all dep problems
[08:15] <crlcan81> every time I try to install simple-ccsm it says I don't have the necessary dependencies..
[08:15] <truepurple> stefg: What does the first link have to do with the issue though?
[08:15] <yigal> virgilivs: what do you get with 'apt-get dist-upgrade'?
[08:15] <virgilivs> jiohdi: then I'm totally confused about what it was doing.
[08:15] <virgilivs> yigal: nothing to upgrade, it says
[08:15] <jiohdi> virgilivs: seems like you made it
[08:16] <virgilivs> i am skeptical
[08:16] <virgilivs> it bombed, for heavens sake
[08:16] <jiohdi> virgilivs: system issues can resolve on restarts
[08:16] <root_> kn
[08:16] <yigal> virgilivs: what's in your /var/log/apt/history.log?
[08:17] <stefg> truepurple: i did not read thru the whole bug report... i just wanted to make you aware of google-fu. 'ubuntu natty fglrx build failure' spit these links out. Since you were able to track down the issue, you should be able to find out what applies to you and what not :-)
[08:17] <virgilivs> yigal: that file doesnt exist for me
[08:17] <virgilivs> nevermind
[08:17] <virgilivs> typo
[08:18] <yigal> virgilivs: but /var/log/apt/ the folder does exist for you?
[08:18] <truepurple> stefg: Well the whole thing is so above my head as to make it want to split, but that second link does seem to apply, thanks
[08:19] <virgilivs> yigal: no, it's there. I just had a type-o
[08:19] <truepurple> stegf: Do you know how to remove that driver?
[08:19] <vng> Good afternoon!
[08:19] <truepurple> I mean stefg
[08:19] <virgilivs> yigal: nothing unusual is recorded in the log. it doesn't contain anything about the upgrade procedure
[08:19] <yigal> virgilivs: so look at previous logs and find the one that does
[08:19] <adzy> how do i get the launcher bar up? mine ist there and just did fresh install
[08:20] <plustax> im having an issue. I have an ipod nano and I just formatted it and added a butt ton of music. I unplugged the ipod and it said there's no music in it. Running Ubuntu 11.04
[08:21] <stefg> truepurple: it is obviously *not* above your head. you managed to pastebin the exact right log... http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/amd-ati-catalyst-114-released-just-in.html might shed some more light on that
[08:21] <zetheroo> for some reason my Skype icon is just a tiny green dot in 11.04 ... any ideas of how to sort this out?
[08:21] <virgilivs> yigal: can't find anything.... the date's not in any of the files. I grepped them all
[08:21] <truepurple> stefg: Some of it is, and some of it is stuff that my brain can't quite contain and it sort of leaks out my ears or something:p
[08:22] <Altheas> hello i just upgraded to unity and for some reason i can't see my top bar or my left dock thing. the only way i can function unity for now is to login with ubuntu classic. any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:22] <gotsanity> is there a way to set up multiple keyboard shortcuts for an action? I want to have a special key for changing workspaces and the ubuntu default as well
[08:22] <plustax> im having an issue. I have an ipod nano and I just formatted it and added a butt ton of music in banshee. I unplugged the ipod and it said there's no music in it. Running Ubuntu 11.04
[08:23] <manOwl> So I found a package that I don't believe is in the ubuntu repositories and it's pretty good
[08:23] <manOwl> If I make a .deb for it and stuff, can I submit it?
[08:23] <yigal> virgilivs: termlog's are right protected so you'll have to use sudo to grep those
[08:23] <manOwl> How are packages selected for inclusion?
[08:23] <virgilivs> i did
[08:23] <truepurple> stefg: And i have been working at this for some time, you would not believe the number of windows, webpages etc I got up
[08:23] <bp0> manOwl, are you sure
[08:23] <bp0> what is the package
[08:23] <stefg> truepurple: unfortunately i don't know the package names for the ATI stuff. sudo apt-get autoremove fglrx-installer might be worth a try
[08:24] <Altheas> hello i just upgraded to unity and for some reason i can't see my top bar or my left dock thing. the only way i can function unity for now is to login with ubuntu classic. any ideas on how to fix this?
[08:24] <manOwl> bp0: ms-sys
[08:24] <Hoyt> hi , anyone tried GrSecurity patch here ?
[08:24] <Hoyt> i can't find one suitable for Ubuntu , ubuntu's kernel is patched too much
[08:24] <durando> i just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 and having trouble figuring out how to connect to my windows shares used to be under places connect to server does anyone know where its located now?
[08:24] <virgilivs> thanks yigal
[08:24] <manOwl> bp0: it allows you to make a windows 7 mbr and stuff. it can be used to create a bootable windows 7 usb drive from linux
[08:24] <manOwl> I was thinking about maybe making a little GUI in python for it
[08:25] <manOwl> to create a bootable win 7 drive from linux
[08:25] <bp0> huh interesting
[08:26] <sakuramboo> durando: dont have a window selected, move the mouse to the top bar, you will see a "places" button, check there
[08:27] <durando> i tried that sakuramboo
[08:27] <mcurran> we need a good screenlet for xchat
[08:27] <manOwl> bp0: you promise not to steal my idea ;)?
[08:27] <sakuramboo> durando: what happens when you select Network?
[08:27] <MK``> This may sound strange but does anyone have torrent links for the old, unsupported versions like 4.10 and etc.?
[08:27] <durando> sakuramboo: that didn't seem to work well
[08:28] <sakuramboo> durando: you also have the "File" button and "Connect to Server", select windows share, enter the into and connect
[08:28] <Jordan_U> manOwl: You can write a microsoft style (chainload first "active" partition) mbr with "install-mbr" from the "mbr" pacakge.
[08:28] <lehel_> how do i costumize the top bar in 11.04 natty?
[08:28] <stefg> truepurple: and check in /etc/X11 ... if there is a xorg.conf then rename or delete it.. After a reboot you should have the situation before you installed the proprietary driver, then you can start over and install the open source one
[08:28] <thousands> I'm trying to use webcamstudio in ubuntu 11.04. It worked find in 10.10 and 10.04. But I can't get it working in 11.04. I think this might be important "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Unable to load library 'glib-2.0': libglib-2.0.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory". Does anyone have any ideas?
[08:28] <manOwl> Jordan_U: and that works for win7 etc?
[08:28] <Jordan_U> manOwl: Yes.
[08:28] <durando> sakuramboo: trying that but i can't seem to unselect indows
[08:29] <virgilivs> yigal: suddenly, after toggling the zoom compiz plugin off and on again, now screen isnt updating.
[08:29] <bp0> manOwl, I promise.
[08:29] <manOwl> Jordan_U: cool
[08:29] <crlcan81> I will admit I know one thing that makes almost no sense to me, on the media player front for Ubuntu. As a music player/movie player, I've yet to see VLC be beat. plus it uses so little of my system the only thing I seen take this little is mpd based, and that cuts out your audio for any other program.
[08:29] <manOwl> :D
[08:29] <virgilivs> yigal: I think tomorrow I'll just do a fresh install
[08:29] <yigal> virgilivs: ok, but sometimes it's a good exercise to try and get the machine back up again
[08:30] <yigal> virgilivs: but time doesn't always permit
[08:30] <virgilivs> yigal: there are no records of any problems
[08:30] <mcurran> unetbootin works fine for creating bootable usb windows 7.  What you need is a live environment of windows 7 on usb, the whole os, not just friggin' those cheasy ghost images
[08:30] <Mitsukaru> FREDDYP: because your caps lock key is broken. fix your computer.
[08:30] <virgilivs> yigal: I can't pinpoint anything
[08:31] <truepurple> stegf Yeah: that is what I used last time when I force closed it before it could finish, but deleting that file left residue stuff in that didn't really work
[08:31] <yigal> virgilivs: you can always reinstall everything using apt
[08:31] <truepurple> I mean stefg
[08:31] <Mitsukaru> ooops, i was scrolled all the way up and didnt realize it xD
[08:31] <yigal> dpkg --get-selections > MyPackages
[08:31] <manOwl> mcurran: hm, i wonder if it would run successfully off of a usb stick like that.
[08:31] <yigal> virgilivs: and then use that list to reinstall everything
[08:32] <mcurran> a install would, but I want a live iso.
[08:32] <pfifo> !clone | yigal virgilivs
[08:32] <yigal> yes use aptitude if you're more comfortable with it
[08:33] <stefg> truepurple: google-fu, 2nd part: "ubuntu natty fglrx uninstall" turns up https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[08:33] <keithtoo> thousands: do apt-get install libglib2.0-0 and see if that helps
[08:33] <phibxr> is it possible to configure unity/compiz to darken the rest of the desktop while asking for root access?
[08:33] <virgilivs> ok, thanks
[08:34] <cpoulsen> does anyone know how i can make ubuntu classic the default in GDM login?
[08:34] <virgilivs> i switched over from Arch because I was spending too much time administering the system :)
[08:34] <stefg> cpoulsen: doesn't gdm remember your last choice?
[08:34] <thousands> nope keithtoo. That didn't help. I still get the same message =(
[08:35] <yigal> virgilivs: ya I did also :)
[08:35] <Altheas> hey, i just recently installed 11.04 but for some reason the only way i can navigate in it is if i login with ubuntu classic GUI. When i try to login with unity the top bar and the dock does not show up. any ideas?
[08:35] <virgilivs> brb... Im going to simply try to log out/in just to get X working again
[08:35] <cpoulsen> stefg: nope it doesnt seem to
[08:36] <Incarus6> Altheas, same happens to me
[08:36] <truepurple> stefg: I had that link, but thanks
[08:36] <yigal> cool
[08:36] <Altheas> Inacrus6, have you heard any solutions? or heard what the problem might be?
[08:36] <durando> this new format to ubuntu is going to turn me into a debian user
[08:37] <keithtoo> thousands: did that also pull up libglib2.0-bin? Might need that too
[08:37] <stefg> virgilivs: /sarcasm: Now you spend the time in endless mouse travels to the global menu and clicking 5 times just to start an application. /sarcasm off
[08:37] <pfifo> durando, try rolling arch
[08:38] <durando> rolling arch?
[08:38] <stevegza> I have to agree about the new interface - not sold on it and think there is a ton of work to optimise amount of clicks
[08:38] <Incarus6> Altheas, I heard you have to install compiz-gnome, that didn't work for me. I think some packages are missing and the dependencies are just wrong / buggy. Unity 2D works for me
[08:38] <pfifo> durando, archlinnux rolling release
[08:38] <borys> halo
[08:38] <Mitsukaru> rolling releases ROCK! >:O
[08:39] <Altheas>  Incarus6, alright i'll give it a try and i'll get back to you if it ended up working out or not
[08:39] <lehel_> in 11.04 can the top bar be costumized and if yes how do i do that? Can anyone help thanks
[08:39] <thousands> Err, I don't think so. So I just did an install of it, but it says it's already installed. Like it said the first thing was already installed. And webcamstudio still gives the same message and refuses to start
[08:39] <Incarus6> Altheas, roger. I will look for a solution
[08:39] <zetheroo> for some reason my Skype icon is just a tiny green dot in 11.04 ... any ideas of how to sort this out?
[08:40] <rain> open system monitor and kill skype then open from the app list, should fix it
[08:42] <Incarus6> Who got problems with Upgrading to 11.04?
[08:43] <sakuramboo> not with upgrading, just managing now that its running ;)
[08:43] <keithtoo> thousands: check in your lib directory for that lib - on my system it's  /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0
[08:44] <Mitsukaru> does anyone know how to organize the items in the Launcher? like, re-order them? when i try dragging and dropping to a different place, it just drags the whole launcher instead of the item i clicked.
[08:44] <chadi> hello world. do you guys have any idea if it is possible to play with the width/length of the individual minimize/maximize/close buttons?
[08:44] <MortenTemp> Hi, can anyone recommend a DLNA server?
[08:44] <sakuramboo> Mitsukaru: click on the icon and hold it until the icon "lifts up"
[08:44] <Mitsukaru> oh, thanks sakuramboo!
[08:45] <crlcan81> chadi: I was wondering something along those lines as well. I want to alter where they're located on mine.
[08:45] <Mitsukaru> sakuramboo: is there some official documentation or tutorial or something for the new launcher in unity?
[08:45] <vng> Can I add more workspaces in 11.04?
[08:45] <Mitsukaru> chadi: learn to create themes, then you can make it look like anything you want
[08:46] <chadi> crlcan81, the only thing I know is that there's a gconf entry to move them from left to right
[08:46] <lumbert> pfifo, still around?
[08:46] <red2kic> Morten_: Ushare? Just a guess.
[08:46] <crlcan81> chadi Where is that? I forgot about gconf.
[08:46] <Morten_> red2kic, I will take a look at it, thanks :)
[08:46] <crlcan81> found it
[08:46] <pfifo> lumbert, yeah
[08:47] <red2kic> Morten_: mediatomb and minidlna turns up too. You have to mess with it to find it. :(
[08:47] <crlcan81> chadi: gconf-editor?
[08:47] <lumbert> pfifo, i was using a usb 3.0 port
[08:48] <lumbert> pfifo, used a 2.0, fixed
[08:48] <chadi> crlcan81, doesn't work on unity in maximized form, though
[08:48] <Morten_> red2kic, ok - I think I will try the ushare first, and then give the other ones a try :) thanks
[08:48] <crlcan81> crap..
[08:48] <thousands> I'm not great at this, so i'm not 100% sure if you mean this. But I found libglib-2.0.so.0 in /lib64/x86_64-linux-gnu  and also in /lib32  but they're both links to libglib-2.0.so.0.2800.6
[08:48] <pfifo> lumbert, ahh, that makes no sense, but ill jot that issue down
[08:49] <Elladan> So, now that ubuntu has officially jumped the shark with this natty stuff, what distro should I switch to?
[08:49] <crlcan81> chadi: My normal windows are fine, it's the maximized one I want to alter.
[08:49] <snowrichard> i'm doing the upgrade for 11.04.  I hope it finishes downloading all the packages before my free download time window stops at 6 am
[08:49] <keithtoo> thousands: I'm stumped there... seems that if the links are there, the prog should roll
[08:49] <sakuramboo> in the launcher, if i open a program once, is there a way to click the icon a second time and have it open a new window?
[08:50] <Tweaky> what is the preferred website to paste screenshots?
[08:50] <thousands> =\ well thanks for trying to help. I guess I'll have to ask elsewhere
[08:50] <lumbert> pfifo, now that i'm inside, its not detecting my usb 3.0 HDD - i'd assume the two problems are related?
[08:50] <atlef> !paste | Tweaky
[08:50] <chadi> crlcan81, it's one of the reasons I gave up on unity :-)\
[08:50] <vng> Is there any document about unity?
[08:50] <Incarus6> snowrichard, I had to download 2,5 GB :D
[08:50] <Jordan_U> snowrichard: You can always continue it another day if it doesn't. Any packages already downloaded will be kept.
[08:50] <Ciccio89> ciao ragazzi! ho un problema con ubuntu 11.04: praticamente non riesco ad attivare gli effetti visivi :( ho una scheda nvidia geforce go 7300 e i driver installati sono quelli proprietari che raccomanda ubuntu. qualcuno può aiutarmi?
[08:51] <snowrichard> yeah i though so
[08:51] <jibadeeha> anyone find ubuntu doesn't shutdown properly .. just hangs
[08:51] <Elladan> I gave up on unity after about 1 minute in 11.04, however, Natty seems to have broken regular gnome to the point of unusability too.
[08:51] <Incarus6> lumbert, are you sure USB 3.0 is supported in your linux kernel? (Are you using 11.04?)
[08:51] <pfifo> lumbert, my guess, is that usb30 kernel modules have not made it into the initramfs/livecd
[08:51] <Tuxx> <3 the new ubuntu
[08:52] <lumbert> i'm trying this gnome device manager, so i can attempt to determine if its not recognized, linux nub :(
[08:52] <adzy> anyone know how i get the new launcher bar to appear ?
[08:52] <pfarrell_> hi! I hope someone can help me: I'm at my wits end. I have a dell e6510 and my touchpad is driving me crazy. it is one of the new touchpads that isn't recognised as a touchpad by the kernel, and so I can't use synclient to disable the touchpad while typing, basically making typing impossible. I've googled and googled, and there are a million different bugzilla/launchpad threads, but I can't actually find a solution! can anyone pleas
[08:52] <pfarrell_> e help?
[08:52] <Tweaky> hello! im having diffulty with upgrading to 11.04 .... http://imagebin.org/150956
[08:53] <Braiam> so, what's the name of the bar at left in unity?
[08:53] <lumbert> pfifo, is that to say if i installed the full version it would recognize my external 3.0 drive?
[08:53] <Elladan> So how do I un-break Compiz in natty?  It is literally impossible to move windows without having it explode and start randomly maximizing them and stuff.
[08:54] <Elladan> Also, the compiz settings for which windows to scroll and workspace switch are totally broken.
[08:54] <Incarus6> Tweaky, pls paste /var/log-dist-upgrade/apt.log and main.log
[08:54] <chazwoza> hi all
[08:54] <Incarus6> Braiam, launcher maybe?
[08:54] <abhinav> how do I install gnome3 ? I have the official PPA added, and some websites mention installing gnome3-desktop or gnome-desktop3. Neither is showing up in synaptic
[08:54] <chazwoza> does anyone know how to make Ubuntu Classic the default sesssion in 11.04 ? It doesnt save after I choose it and log in :(
[08:54] <pfifo> lumbert, speaking from the linux kernel standpoint, USB 3.0 is supported... in ubuntu i have no idea
[08:55] <Incarus6> Tweaky, this error is caused by unmatched dependencies when you use foreign repos
[08:55] <botcity> Elladan, can you access compiz?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> Tweaky: Are you using (or have you used) any third party repositories / ppas?
[08:55] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | abhinav
[08:55] <abhinav> chazwoza: Yes, go to adminstration-> Login screen
[08:55] <Tweaky> Jordan_U: im using several repositories yes
[08:55] <abhinav> Jordan_U: I understand that. Nevertheless.. how do I install it ?
[08:55] <chazwoza> abhinav: thanks
[08:56] <chazwoza> :)
[08:56] <Jordan_U> Tweaky: Uninstall any applications that are not from the standard repositories.
[08:56] <Incarus6> Jordan_U, I will help Tweaky fixing the dependencies
[08:56] <Elladan> botcity: I'm attempting to fix it in the compizconfig tool, except that Natty /also/ broke the tool to the point of nonfunctionality
[08:56] <Flynsarmy> Hey guys I installed 11.04 in Virtualbox-4.0. As expected, unity didn't load so it went to gnome classic. all fine so far but after a reboot, gnome classic now looks like this http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7629436/Screenshot-1.png any ideas on how to fix that?
[08:56] <Incarus6> Tweaky, pls paste the files
[08:56] <stefg> pfarrell_: have you tried setting up a udev-rule ? http://www.bhagwad.com/blog/2010/technology/alps-synaptics-touchpad-configuration-in-lucid-lynx-ubuntu-10-04.html
[08:56] <Tweaky> incarus6: one sec
[08:56] <resc_user_2649> my ubuntu linux is not booting with window 7.. what will i do
[08:56] <atlef> Flynsarmy, install the vbox additions
[08:56] <pfarrell_> stefg: I have not, I'll do that now
[08:57] <Incarus6> resc_user_2649, is grub shown up correctly?
[08:57] <pfarrell_> but I don't think it will work, because nothing "synaptics" has worked
[08:57] <atlef> *guest additions
[08:57] <resc_user_2649> no
[08:57] <pfarrell_> I don't think the touchpad is recognised as having anything to do with "synaptics"
[08:57] <stefg> pfarrell_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/14178/how-to-disable-touchpad-on-dell-latitude-e-series-e5510-e6510 here you have
[08:57] <resc_user_2649> grub menu is not showing
[08:57] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Which OS is not booting. Ubuntu or Windows (or both)?
[08:57] <botcity> Elladan, if you can get there there is a reset in  ccsm >> preferences >>reset to default
[08:57] <resc_user_2649> ubuntu
[08:57] <Tweaky> incarus6: i dont see those files listed
[08:57] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: What happens when you boot?
[08:57] <pfarrell_> stefg: that askubuntu is how to disable it completely: but what if I don't have another mouse?
[08:58] <resc_user_2649> ubuntu is not booting and window 7 boot smoothily
[08:58] <pfarrell_> stefg: I want instead to have it recognised as a touchpad by the system
[08:58] <Flynsarmy> atlef: why would it have looked fine the first load but not the second?
[08:58] <pfarrell_> stefg: so that it can be disabled while typing
[08:58] <Laibsch> Hi, I'm looking for help to get back a working initramfs to boot my encrypted LVM: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+question/154973/
[08:58] <Incarus6> Tweaky, it was a type, /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and main.log
[08:58] <resc_user_2649> dirertily enter to window 7
[08:58] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[08:58] <atlef> Flynsarmy, sorry, no idea
[08:58] <resc_user_2649> onlu one hard drive
[08:59] <resc_user_2649> i downloaded rescatux and how will use ths to solve booting
[08:59] <Elladan> botcity: That doesn't help, because I need it to set compiz to some sort of /sane/ defaults, not the psychotic insanity in Natty
[08:59] <Tweaky> incarus6: oh.. hidden directory alrgiht sec
[08:59] <SpaceRain> Hi. :)
[08:59] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Did you install Ubuntu first or Windows first?
[09:00] <atlef> Flynsarmy, it look like that the first time i logged in, did not even reboot it
[09:00] <atlef> *looked
[09:00] <resc_user_2649> the problem comes wen i reinstall window 7
[09:00] <chadi> I disabled overlay scrollbars as in this tutorial http://www.streamreader.org/askubuntu/questions/34214/how-do-i-disable-overlay-scrollbars but it only gets disabled for my own user, not if I use sudo... why is that?
[09:00] <resc_user_2649> after that i installed ubuntu lated version(upgraded using cd)
[09:00] <chadi> I used the global approach
[09:00] <Flynsarmy> atlef: installing them helped. thanks
[09:00] <pfarrell_> this is really awful
[09:00] <SpaceRain> This is seriously off-topic, but does anyone know how to use grooveshark.com?
[09:01] <pfarrell_> it makes the whole computer unusable when you can't fecking type :-(
[09:01] <atlef> Flynsarmy, yw
[09:01] <ejv> ask in #ubuntu-offtopic SpaceRain, you should know better. :P
[09:01] <SpaceRain> Unfortunately I don't, ejv. :)
[09:01] <botcity> Elladan, can you log out and back in to classic ubuntu i think you may be able to set it there ?
[09:01] <ejv> in that case
[09:01] <test> hello
[09:01] <ejv> !ot | SpaceRain
[09:01] <resc_user_2649> when i upgraded ubuntu.. ubuntu booted well.. but not window 7.. so i repard window 7 boot loader uisng window 7 cd.. now window 7 only booting
[09:01] <test> can sb help me
[09:01] <SpaceRain> Thank you. :)
[09:01] <ejv> !ask | test
[09:01] <test> i bought new harddrive
[09:02] <test> and i need an operating system
[09:02] <nandaram> is there information on upgrading lts older to lts now
[09:02] <Incarus6> Tweaky, I meant a *typo, sry, its early in the morning here ;)
[09:02] <nandaram> test: buy a geek and make him install one
[09:02] <Elladan> botcity: No, I'm saying Natty is broken to the point of unusability even when I log in to "classic ubuntu"
[09:02] <test> but i dont want unity
[09:02] <test> so is it better to use kde ?
[09:02] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/LkVkbvWf http://pastebin.com/Y2w7knSW and yeah, its 4am here heh i understand
[09:02] <MK``> This may sound strange but does anyone have torrent links for the old, unsupported versions like 4.10 and etc.? They seem to have been removed from the old-releases server, yet ironically the isos have not been. I don't want to hammer the server, I'd rather use the torrent.
[09:02] <botcity> Elladan, oh lol sorry !
[09:03] <Incarus6> test, you can also try the classic gnome. Pls ask in one line next time
[09:03] <Elladan> botcity: Like, I literally can't place windows into positions on the screen, because the WM goes insane and starts maximizing stuff at random like some crazy person designed it
[09:03] <nandaram> test: is what better then kde?
[09:03] <stefg> Laibsch: My first cheap attempt would be  "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lvm && sudo update-initramfs -u -k all" in the hope that lvm becomes aware again of the encrypted volume and writes that to initramfs
[09:03] <test> Incaru6, nandaram: yesm but i heart in 11.10 not
[09:03] <Elladan> botcity: I literally can't get the compizconfig tool to work, because the wm is so broken it bounces around and goes off the screen so I can't hit the back button etc
[09:03] <Incarus6> Tweaky, ok, I can see the problem on the first look
[09:04] <test> Incarus6, nandaram: yes but i heart in 11.10 not
[09:04] <Jordan_U> Elladan: metacity --replace
[09:04] <nandaram> test: ysem is a wm?
[09:04] <test> no kde i meant
[09:04] <ejv> !enter | test
[09:04] <nandaram> ubottu: but but
[09:04] <blackdoggy> anybody having problems with dual  screen with nvidia in 11.04?
[09:05] <test> nandaram: The question kde or gnomeclassic
[09:05] <test> in my openion in 11,.10 isnt anymore classic
[09:05] <Tweaky> incarus6: what do i need to do ><
[09:05] <Elladan> Jordan_U: Compiz worked fine in 10.10 -- Natty is just unusable.
[09:05] <Incarus6> Tweaky, you used foreign graphic driver repos. pls paste "cat /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log | grep Broken"
[09:05] <nandaram> test: um super bloat or ubuntu bloat?
[09:05] <test> what ?
[09:05] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: http://rescatux.berlios.de/wiki/Main_Page#Recover_Grub_option
[09:05] <nandaram> i prefer light linux with gnome libs or less
[09:05] <pfui> when i boot up from the live cd and choose "try ubuntu" it just sits there and does nothing, is that a problem with my pc?
[09:06] <nandaram> but better is more of an opinion
[09:06] <Incarus6> test, the standard desktop is now Unity. you can choose the classic gnome when logging in
[09:06] <nandaram> i hate kde... =)
[09:06] <arnab> i kinda liked it
[09:06] <pfifo> !usb3
[09:06] <Jordan_U> Elladan: If you have metacity installed then "metacity --replace" should allow you to use windows normally to run ccsm.
[09:06] <test> Incarus6: yes, but i cant change in 11.10 !!
[09:06] <nandaram> unity is a kde gnome mix?
[09:06] <pfifo> is usb3 suported
[09:06] <arnab> i wonder how does kubuntu 11.04 compare to unity
[09:06] <Incarus6> test, ist there an option "Ubuntu Classic"?
[09:06] <test> in 11.04 yes
[09:06] <nandaram> pfifo: more then likely it works on my non ubuntu kernel since like last year
[09:06] <Elladan> Jordan_U: Right, but where are the settings to disable all the Natty insanity?
[09:06] <test> in 11,10 not
[09:07] <Incarus6> arnab, Kubuntu is working perfectly for me - Unity is not.
[09:07] <resc_user_2649> i already done whatever on rescatux but...the error message says that ... something went wrong grub do not installed
[09:07] <nandaram> if ubuntu when to kde im definetlly uninstalling asap
[09:07] <nandaram> i thought it had a chance but after trying to find a way to get 8 ttys up
[09:07] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Is your Ubuntu install 64 bit?
[09:07] <Laibsch> stefg: Thank you for having a look.  I did the update-initramfs part already but I'm not sure if I reconfigured lvm.  I'll do that.  Let's see if it helps.
[09:07] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/PBkwbpzS
[09:07] <test> Incarus6: i think, gnome 2 is very old is it
[09:07] <nandaram> and the mounts of upstart backcrap
[09:08] <eloystebam> !dedicatoria <nandaram>
[09:08] <nandaram> when it didnt even seem used i couldnt even grep the /etc and find the vt7
[09:08] <Incarus6> test, it is gnome 2.32 at the moment. the newer version is gnome3
[09:08] <eloystebam> !dedicatoria nandaram
[09:08] <Incarus6> !gnome3 | test
[09:08] <resc_user_2649> 64 bit ubuntu
[09:08] <arnab> Incarus6, just as i expected... i should read some reviews of kubuntu i think. in the end i may decide to switch to that.
[09:08] <test> the thing is
[09:08] <stefg_natty> Laibsch: the point is to that /after/ lvm reconfiguration, so the new lvm-conf gets into the initramfs
[09:08] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: What is the output of "uname -m"?
[09:08] <test> i HATE !! unity and gnome3
[09:08] <nandaram> Incarus6: nice then ill keep trying is there an easy way to get 8ttys for force xorg to tty9
[09:09] <Incarus6> Tweaky, now paste "apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core"
[09:09] <nandaram> test: change is good. keep trying to hate your impotence
[09:09] <Laibsch> stefg: yes, understood.  Thank you.  I'll have a look
[09:09] <resc_user_2649> what is uname-m
[09:09] <test> so what can you recommend me
[09:09] <atlef> test, why don't you use 10.10
[09:09] <Incarus6> nadaram, are you sure you are talking to me?
[09:10] <test> atlef: why 10,10? why not 11.04
[09:10] <nandaram> Incarus6: yes you seem knowledgeable have you ever used a console?
[09:10] <Elladan> Jordan_U: I mean, I can thrash the thing until the tool kind of works, but I'm having a lot of trouble finding out what bizarre settings those crackheads at Canonical came up with in a drug-crazed stupor when they were designing the Natty UI.
[09:10] <nandaram> Jordan_U: your here?
[09:10] <nandaram> lol
[09:10] <Incarus6> arnab, just install "kubuntu-desktop" and give it a try ;)
[09:10] <Jordan_U> nandaram: Yes.
[09:10] <erni> ciao a tutti
[09:10] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/Rzu4QH00
[09:10] <test> nandaram, Incarus6 you do not understand me
[09:11] <Jordan_U> Elladan: Please stop with insults. It's not neccessary.
[09:11] <Incarus6> nandaram, of course, but I don't know how to force Xorg to start in a special tty. whats the exact problem?
[09:11] <test> nandaram, Incarus6 you do not understand me
[09:11] <Incarus6> Tweaky, Ah, as I expected
[09:11] <Flynsarmy> atlef: Spoke too soon. Now both Ubuntu and Ubuntu Classic seem to load Ubuntu Classic, but they seem to load it with the proper theme then switch to the theme in my screenshot :S
[09:11] <pfui> when i boot up from the live cd and choose "try ubuntu" it just sits there and does nothing. any ideas?
[09:11] <test> nandaram, Incarus6 you do not understand me
[09:12] <arnab> Incarus6, should i go that route and somehow finally choose not to get back to gnome, is there an easy way to clear the system of all  kubuntu-desktop packages? i have only 8gb of hard disk space.
[09:12] <Incarus6> Jordan_U, test, nadaram left. And what do I not understand?
[09:12] <Tweaky> incarus6: is that good or bad lol
[09:12] <Vustom> I don't seem to have the "Open with..." option when right clicking things in Ubuntu 11.4.. any idea how to fix this?
[09:12] <Robert__> I have a virtualbox question can any one help?
[09:12] <Vustom> For example, like a .desktop extention.
[09:12] <atlef> Flynsarmy, hmm, have not experienced that, yet
[09:12] <botcity> Elladan, was natty ok when you installed it ? i thought that you just messed up your settings ?
[09:13] <test> Incarus6: the thing is, 11.04 has gnome, 11,10 not
[09:13] <arnab> yeah Robert__ .
[09:13] <stefg_natty> Robert__: there's #vbox ... if it's ubuntu-host related it might fit in here
[09:13] <test> righ t Incarus6?
[09:13] <Incarus6> arnab, Im not sure, I heard that you can simpley remove "kubuntu-desktop", but that never worked for me. I use a lot "aptitude autoclean" and "apt-get autoremove"
[09:13] <Elladan> botcity: Of course it wasn't.  I'm using the Natty defaults, and they are an unusable broken WM configuration.
[09:13] <arnab> ahh ok, thanks Incarus6
[09:13] <Incarus6> test, are you using 11.10?
[09:13] <test> Incarus6: no but at october 2011
[09:14] <sudipta> I have installed natty yesterday.After installing propietary nvidia driver unity interface does no respond at all...any help?
[09:14] <Elladan> botcity: I'm trying to find out what sort of bizarre insanity Canonical came up with when they were defining stuff like the edge drag behavior so I can configure it into some sort of minimally useful form
[09:14] <test> and many articles said there isnt anymore an gnome classicall
[09:14] <Tweaky> incarus6: so what do i do?
[09:14] <Incarus6> Tweaky, its goot that we found the solution, but the solution isn't that easy, you have to start the upgrade several times after we fixed it and that takes a lot time
[09:14] <Incarus6> Tweaky, first you have to disable all foreign repo sources
[09:15] <test> Incarus6: no but at october 2011
[09:15] <test> and many articles said there isnt anymore an gnome classicall
[09:15] <usalabs> do not use 11.04 unity, it is useless, there is no taskbar that is relied upon by progs such as cryptkeeper, use classic by starting the login screen app, then change the session to 'Classic'
[09:15] <Robert__> arnab__; stefg_natty__: iv gone to great lengths to make this thing work but but vbox will not let me boot from a usb or from a cd or anything really
[09:15] <Tweaky> incarus6: how do i know which are foreign
[09:15] <Incarus6> test, I think oneiric got gnome too: http://packages.ubuntu.com/oneiric/gnome
[09:15] <Incarus6> Tweaky, every repo, that is not ubuntu.com
[09:15] <test> hm
[09:16]  * vibhav is ready to help others!
[09:16] <sudipta> I have installed natty yesterday.After installing propietary nvidia driver unity interface does no respond at all...any help?
 lemme see
[09:17] <stefg_natty> Elladan: instead of getting upset i think you should just accept the fact that you are not in the target audience for unity. I'm p*ssed, too that Canonical picked up the nasty habbit of breaking my setup with every update. Unity is a take-it or leave-it thing, and as things semm, you should rather leave it and pick classic or even emigrate to mint
[09:17] <Robert__> arnab__; stefg_natty__: iv gone to great lengths to make this thing work but but vbox will not let me boot from a usb or from a cd or anything really
[09:17] <Elladan> stefg_natty: Yeah, you're right.
[09:17] <sudipta> vibhav:yes...pls do...
[09:17] <laughzilla> anyone using ubuntu 11.x ?
[09:17] <Elladan> stefg_natty: I'm just going to reformat tomorrow and install some other OS.  Ubuntu is clearly not going to get any better.
[09:18] <resc_user_2649> i am using 64 bit ubuntu and 32 bit window 7
yeah...i am
[09:18] <Micael> Hello i have installed ubuntu 10.10 on my laptop but now i cant start it i only come to a sign that say my laptops name and i cant press anything
[09:18] <Elladan> stefg_natty: Is mint decent?
 believe Unity requires 3D graphics. So if there is an open driver that can do that, you don't require proprietary drivers.
[09:18] <Robert__> arnab__; stefg_natty__: hello
[09:18] <stefg_natty> Robert__:which version are you running?
[09:18] <Incarus6> Tweaky, then create an empty directory in your home dir, that we can download several deb files. I'll prepare a long command for you, that will take some time
[09:18] <laughzilla> sudipta - i just upgraded to it yesterday and i can't seem to mount my data drive (separate physical drive from my os drive).
which open driver should i use?
[09:19] <Incarus6> !nouveau | sudipta
[09:19] <Poshepocket> How do I get rid of this disastrous DOCK of 11.04?
[09:19] <laughzilla> sudipta - my data drive is not partitioned, according to Disk Utility
[09:19] <resc_user_2649> Helo anybody there to help me.. ubuntu is not booting with window 7 is my problem
[09:19] <Robert__> stefg_natty__: 10.04
[09:19] <Tweaky> icarus6: hm alright ive disabled them all
[09:19] <casperfoo> Elladan: I caught your conversation part way thru but did you upgrade and then have compiz troubles?
[09:19] <Elladan> Ok, there we go btw: if you disable the "grid" plugin in compiz, it's possible to place windows without the WM going insane on you.
[09:20] <mbrochh> when i log out my session and log in again it often happens that the top panel loses its theme (using unity)... how can i restore it?
[09:20] <laughzilla> sudipta - is it possible to create a partition on a disk that already has data on it, without losing that data?
can u pls give me the command to install it....there r lot of nouveau in the repo
[09:20] <Incarus6> !grub | resc_user_2649
[09:20] <Vustom> Is anyone else having trouble checking their Update Manager? I get "Check your internet connection." but my internet is just fine.
[09:20] <Robert__> stefg_natty__:10.04
i dont think so
[09:20] <drk-matr> How do you reduce unity search(I think its called lens) function?
[09:20] <Incarus6> sudipta, install it the graphical way (jockey)
[09:21] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: What is the output of "uname -r"?
formatting will make the drive empty
 http://paste.ubuntu.com/601200/
[09:21] <stefg_natty> Robert__: i run vbox 4.0.6 PUEL on lucid (with maverick-backport kernel) without issues... does booting from a iso-image (not the physical host drive) not work either?
[09:21] <laughzilla> sudipta - so i thought. that's frustrating.  how come ubuntu 11.x can't mount an unpartitioned disk, but ubuntu 10.10 could?
[09:21] <resc_user_2649> actually i dont know what is uname-r
[09:22] <Guest4840> resc_user_2649, type that in terminal
ur estab entry is properly set...check that out
[09:22] <Robert__> stefg_natty__: uhhh ya i dont know that much
[09:22] <Guest4840> resc_user_2649, "uname -r"
[09:22] <h-dee> Hi....Simple question. Currently using 10.10, and I'm thinking about switching to 11.04. But, I'm unsure if Unity 3D will work on my Laptop (No external GPU...only Intel's inbuilt card).
[09:22] <Guest4840> resc_user_2649, without quotes...
 Can you tell me the card specs?
[09:23] <resc_user_2649> amd64
[09:23] <laughzilla> sudipta - yes i checked /etc/fstab and sure enough my data drive is not listed in there.
[09:23] <h-dee> vibhav: just a sec.
[09:23] <stefg_natty> h-dee: make sure you have a fresh backup ready to restore in case something breaks or find yourself hating the new UI
[09:23] <resc_user_2649> the out put amd54
[09:23] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Do you mind burning another CD? Using Super GRUB2 Disk will make this easier.
[09:23] <Robert__> stefg_natty__: uhhhh ya i dont know that much
 Or if unity 3d does not work then you can install unity 2d
[09:23] <h-dee> stefg_natty: Backup is always ready. thanx! First things first!
[09:23] <h-dee> vibhav: thanx vibhav. Let me check the specs.
then u need to put an entry there....
[09:24] <resc_user_2649> i burned a cid rescatux... and now i chating from rescatux
 The grub fix CD?
[09:24] <stefg_natty> Robert__ so need to explain a little further what doesn't work. You can't get anything to boot inside virtualbox?
[09:24] <h-dee> vibhav: Intel's Integrated Graphics Controller GM965/GL960
[09:24] <resc_user_2649> can i restore it from rescatux
 wait
[09:25] <h-dee> vibhav: Sure!
[09:25] <laughzilla> sudipta yes i figured that ... now i am looking for example syntax of what i should put.
isn't it in the repo....the usual get-install way
[09:25] <Robert__> stefg_natty__:yes nothing will boot i have a usb ready to boot and a cd ready to boot
[09:25] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: Yes, but you'll need to find how to get to a terminal in rescatux.
[09:26] <resc_user_2649> i know i get terminal
[09:26] <resc_user_2649> from application menu i gor terminal
 Minimum
[09:26] <vibhav> 	
[09:26] <vibhav> 1.66 GHz
[09:26] <vibhav> 	
[09:26] <vibhav> 32 bits
[09:26] <vibhav> 	
[09:26] <FloodBot1> vibhav: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:26] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: OK. In the terminal please run "uname -m" tell me what it outputs.
[09:26] <stefg> Robert__: and you have set the machine to boot from , say, CD first and have mounted an ISO image to the virtual CD-drive?
[09:26] <sweb> did you get bug from unchangable gnome theme ? after installation theme transfered to old and gray theme that can be unchangable ? i'm testet on Vmbox and Asus eeepc netbook [linux based netbook]
[09:27] <h-dee> vibhav: Was that CPU requirements? or G-card?
[09:27] <sweb> we install v 9.10 on asus eeepc without any problem
isn't it in the repo....the usual get-install way
[09:27] <h-dee> vibhav: no external GPU...so don't know abt clock speed..
[09:27] <resc_user_2649> the out put is x86_64
[09:27] <sweb> v 11.04 disappoint us
[09:27] <vibhav> h-dee unity will work
[09:27] <Robert__> stefg__:see it wont let me mount there is no option to mount
[09:27] <h-dee> vibhav: JFYI...processor 2.0 GHz 64-bit
 oh no
[09:27] <h-dee> vibhav: Thanx vibhav
[09:28] <vibhav> h-dee Welcome!
what?
[09:28] <h-dee> vibhav: By the way, if I suppose want to install Gnome 3 instead of Unity?
 lemme see
[09:28] <Jordan_U> resc_user_2649: OK, then you should be able to follow this guide: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[09:28] <atlef> !gnome3 | h-dee
[09:28] <trijntje> How can I get the 'check cd for defects' option from the live cd? It doesnt show that by default any more
[09:29] <h-dee> atlef: Thanx! atleast it can support. Good for experimental purpose.
[09:29] <stefg> Robert__: you'll need to add a controller... but i think you shoud re-read the vbox docs. it's getting offtopic for the ubunut support channel
[09:29] <Jordan_U> trijntje: Press any key during the first 5 seconds of boot (when you see the keyboard = accessability symbols).
[09:29] <Incarus6> Tweaky, change dir (cd) in that new directory and type "apt-get download xserver-common x11-common x11-xkb-utils xserver-xorg-core libdrm-nouveau1 xserver-xorg-video-all xserver-xorg-video-tseng nvidia-current-modaliases nvidia-common xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati fglrx xorg-video-abi-8.0 xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-sis xserver-xorg-
[09:29] <Incarus6> video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-savage xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-s3 xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-input-mouse xserver-xorg-video-sisusb xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xorg-input-abi-11.0 xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-
[09:29] <Incarus6> i128 xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-r128 libdrm-dev xserver-xorg-video-radeon xserver-xorg-video-nv libgl1-mesa-dri" (without SU rights)
[09:29] <FloodBot1> Incarus6: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:29] <atlef> trijntje, it does on my livecd
[09:29] <snowrichard> o
 if you install gnome 3 it will break your unity
[09:29]  * Incarus6 actually that command was long
[09:29] <snowrichard> drowning from the flood lol
[09:30] <vibhav> lol
[09:30] <Incarus6> vibhav, am I still muted?
[09:30] <Tweaky> icarus6: lol!
[09:30] <trijntje> Jordan_U, thanks!
[09:30] <Jordan_U> trijntje: You're welcome.
[09:30] <trijntje> Incarus6, nope
 NO
[09:30] <h-dee> vibhav: Thanx! I'll try that on my VM first then. Thanks for the help. Have a great day.
[09:30] <Robert__> stefg__:what do you mean off topic
[09:30] <klrbees> is there anything like cheat engine for ubuntu?
[09:30] <vibhav> h-dee Welcome!
 you can switch to classic gnome by logging out, and click your username, and select 'classic' at the bottom bar,,, or run the app called 'Login Screen' and change the session to 'Classic'
[09:31]  * Incarus6 will use pastebin for commands next time :D
[09:31] <h-dee> usalabs: Thanks for the suggestion usalabs...seems like I'm surely heading for 11.04 :)
[09:31] <stefg> Robert__: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch03.html#settings-storage will explain the details. offtopicmeans that this is the ubuntu support chat, and your virtualbox question isn't really ubuntu-related
 but neither it is offtopic
[09:32] <Tweaky> icarus6: E: Invalid operation download
[09:32] <drk-matr> How do you reduce unity search(I think its called lens) function?
[09:32] <Robert__> stefg__:well then where the frick do i get some one to help me with vbox
[09:33] <klrbees> is natty narwhal worth using
 According to me , yes
[09:33] <stefg> Robert__: the link i gave you points to the online manual of virtualbox... and then there is the dedictaed channel #vbox
[09:34] <drk-matr> ccsm only allows you to change the size of launcher icons
[09:34] <usalabs> 11.04 sucks, I just now for no reason, got logged out of ubuntu and straight to the log in screen, all by itself,,, this never happened with 10.10
[09:34] <Robert__> stefg__:how do i get to that channel
[09:34] <besfort> does anyone now if ubuntu 11.04 have the same problems with HP 620
[09:34] <red2kic> Robert__: Click on this --> #vbox
[09:34] <Incarus6> Tweaky, don't mistype my name ;) are you sure you typed the command correctly?
[09:35] <red2kic> Robert__: or you can type this -->  /j #vbox
[09:35] <Tweaky> incarus6: my mistake! i believe so
[09:35] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:35] <pfifo> my monitor broke, can I get ubuntu to just print out the tty... on paper
[09:35] <Flynsarmy> atlef: Aha! killall -9 gnome-settings-daemon && gnome-settings-daemon fixes it
[09:36] <Flynsarmy> Does installing unity-2d just give you the option to use it alongside 3D or does it actually break unity-3d?
[09:36] <stefg> pfifo: to get that 60's feeling?  .... i'd rather ssh into that box
[09:37] <Incarus6> Tweaky, try http://paste.ubuntu.com/601205/ otherwise try the same command in the paste with aptitude download instead of apt-get download
[09:37] <Incarus6> pfifo, :D
[09:37] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:38] <Incarus6> Flynsarmy, it doesn't break Unity-3D, it gives you an extra option
[09:38] <Flynsarmy> Incarus6: thanks
[09:38] <resc_user_2649> i cant install grub 2 by using tat gude also
[09:38] <Incarus6> resc_user_2649, use that guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[09:39] <cockkk> hi
[09:39] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:39] <Susanna> Just updated Ubuntu and graphic is dead slow now. I have two screens and an intel graphic-card
[09:39] <Susanna> Someone experienced same problem
[09:39] <Incarus6> Susanna, did you try to start the classic gnome and did that work properly? If not try it
[09:39] <Susanna> As well the resolution of my second screen isn't supported anymore
[09:39] <stefg> Susanna: using unity?
[09:40] <Susanna> Thaks Incarus6
[09:40] <resc_user_2649> helo anyone help how to recover grub2 using rescatux 0.26
[09:40] <atlef> what version of gnome is in natty? 2.32
[09:40] <CooKieMonster> if i want to play all streaming format audio /video what code should i get for ubuntu ?
[09:40] <Incarus6> atlef, correct
[09:40] <Susanna> stefg yes
[09:40] <atlef> Incarus6, thx
[09:40] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/WUErGJx4
[09:40] <Timelight> hello
[09:41] <Jordan_U> !restricted | CooKieMonster
[09:41] <mah454> where in minimize to tray for Xchat client ? (Unity Desktop)
[09:41] <mah454> where in minimize to tray for Xchat client ? (Unity Desktop)
[09:41] <atlef> Incarus6, and is it full gnome 2.32 or is it stripped down in any way?
[09:41] <mah454> where is minimize to tray for Xchat client ? (Unity Desktop)
[09:41] <stefg> Susanna: I'd resort to 'classic'. Seems that the (oh so resource-friendly, 3D-needing) new desktop overstresses  the capabilities of you hardware
[09:41] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:41] <Incarus6> Tweaky, type "sudo aptitude update" and repeat the aptitude download command
[09:42] <Timelight> does someone else also slow internet on ubuntu 11.04?
[09:42] <atlef> !patience |  raven_
[09:43] <PresuntoRJ> just upgraded to natty from maverick on my second machine and it has failed miserably... wont boot no matter what...  the screen is blank ... it still runs with a live CD (lucid) I have here...
[09:43] <haroon> my wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working fine. what should I do to rectify this
[09:43] <PresuntoRJ> complete disaster
[09:43] <gurmal> hi I use ubuntu 9.1 -- p4 1.8 ghz 512 mb ram (no agp) ...it seems ubuntu i taking high alarming high CPU (100%) when i run rythmbox ,vlc . Any tips on making lean. I dont want to install XFCE or something
[09:44] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, is grub showing up?
[09:44] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: nope... not even grub
[09:44] <milen8204> Any one can help a bit whit mounting a partition to /home folder
[09:44] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:44] <milen8204> ?
[09:44] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: just a black and sad screen... the HDD keeps spining for a while, and then stops
[09:44] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, could be a grub-only issue, did you try to recover grub?
[09:45] <ratc> gurmal , try to use a different kernel version
[09:45] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: is there a guide to assist?
[09:45] <Incarus6> !grub > PresuntoRJ
[09:46] <gurmal> @ratc how can i downgrade current kernel version using apt
[09:46] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Do you have more than one hard drive?
[09:46] <haroon> my wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working
[09:46] <Renski> ok, this unity thing is disgusting. How do I switch it back?
[09:47] <ocool> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC21
[09:47] <Incarus6> gurmal, you can't downgrade because the every kernel is installed seperatly. just install an older version
[09:47] <CooKieMonster> which version restricted extra  shjould i use if i got 8.04 ubuntu
[09:47] <ocool> what this error tell abt?
[09:47] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: yes, the / is /dev/sda1, /usr is /dev/sda5 and /home at /dev/sdb1
[09:47] <Timelight> i got the same problem as haroon. wireless works but some programs act like there is almost no internet
[09:47] <atlef> Renski, log out and choose ubuntu classic
[09:47] <Incarus6> Renski, choose Ubuntu Classic at the login screen
[09:47] <Renski> its trying to be OSX
[09:47] <Renski> ty
[09:47] <ocool> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC21
[09:47] <ocool> ?
[09:47] <Giles> How do I log in to the "unity" desktop?
[09:47] <gurmal> yuck
[09:47] <Incarus6> CooKieMonster, you are still using 8.04?
[09:48] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Your BIOS probably just isn't booting from the drive grub is installed to. Try changing the boot order in the BIOS.
[09:48] <CooKieMonster> yes
[09:48] <CooKieMonster> why ?
[09:48] <Giles> At the login screen I have options "ubuntu, ubuntu classic, ubuntu classic (no effects), custom"
[09:48] <Timelight> giles at the log in screen. there is a option below for that
[09:48] <ocool> hello help me to get over this error?
[09:48] <ocool> GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net maverick Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 9BDB3D89CE49EC21
[09:48] <milen8204> Giles, I think you have to install drivers for your video card
[09:48] <ocool> ?
[09:48] <atlef> CooKieMonster, use "ubuntu"
[09:48] <gurmal> ps i hate mec
[09:48] <haroon> my wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working  unity 11.04
[09:49] <drk-matr> how do you customize the thing that comes onto the screen when you press the super key in unity....its big and I'd like it to be atleast 25% of the orignal size
[09:49] <Renski> much better, thank you atlef and Incarus6
[09:49] <Incarus6> CooKieMonster, which version of 8.04? 8.04.4 LTS? is that still supported?
[09:49] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I will check, but why on earth the upgrade to natty would, out of the blue, change my bios settings? have this is a machine in use since 8.04, and upgraded flawlessly since
[09:49] <Giles> milen8204: I removed the nvidia-current package, because it usually causes problems with my non nvidia card...
[09:49] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: It wouldn't. If that is what is happening then it would most likely be a coincidence.
[09:49] <ocool> hello
[09:49] <ocool> ?
[09:49] <Renski> this is a note book, and unity took far too long to load, ive got back to classic noeffects
[09:49] <milen8204> Giles, I had a problems whit ubuntu starting when I updated to 11.04
[09:49] <drk-matr> atleast tell me what its called so that I can google it??
[09:50] <Giles> milen8204: ouch.
[09:50] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:50] <CooKieMonster> after installed the ubuntu restriced extra  i still can't play windows based streaming audio
[09:50] <milen8204> Giles, and then I updated nvidia drives and the Unity started.\
[09:50] <Giles> milen8204: so where did the "desktop effects" tab go in the classic desktop...
[09:50] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: as expected, no, the boot order is corret
[09:50] <CooKieMonster> so so lame
[09:50] <Incarus6> Tweaky, is it working?
[09:51] <voidr> hiMik, I have a hybrid card configuration that causes problems with Xorg, is there a way to disable one of them form the kernel?
[09:51] <Timelight> why is wireless internet slow on ubuntu 11
[09:51] <voidr> soory I meant "hi"
[09:51] <milen8204> Giles, it works whit a notice for me I have chose classic desctop
[09:51] <Giles> milen8204: yes, the first time I logged in it said that my hardware doesn't support unity.
[09:51] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Can you run boot info script as explained here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and pastebin the RESULTS.txt?
[09:51] <Incarus6> voidr, can you paste /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[09:52] <Giles> milen8204: what did you do exactly?
[09:52] <Incarus6> Timelight, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/728969
[09:52] <Acriax> Hmm, the "Places" and stuff that are supposed to show up when you hover the mouse over the top bar doesn't show up for me.
[09:52] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I am not sure if I have got it right... how could I install something in my hdd if it wont boot?
[09:53] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: You can run boot info script from a LiveCD.
[09:53] <netztrip> hi, is it possible to disable this new omnipresent triange in the lower right corner of every window?
[09:53] <Robert__> stefg__: well that didn't get me anywhere
[09:53] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[09:53] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: ok, it was not clear... I will try then
[09:53] <netztrip> maybe a super secret environment variable...
[09:53] <milen8204> Giles, whit the massage I have house the "X" button and classic desktop stated
[09:54] <Giles> milen8204: yeah... I am in classic desktop, I want to try unity...
[09:54] <adzy> how do i activate unity?
[09:54] <milen8204> Giles, then I did update to my nvidia drivers and unity starts, I am not so happy whit this now but :D you know
[09:54] <Tweaky> incarus6: not sure 1 sec sorry
[09:54] <voidr> Incarus6, http://pastebin.com/nGB1zrkC
[09:54] <Incarus6> Giles, you could try Unity-2D, while you are in gnome
[09:54] <voidr> basically the two cards confuse Xorg
[09:54] <Vustom> What Ubuntu desktop recorder is this guy using..? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MhJB9yC7Bo
[09:55] <Vustom> I want it. :D
[09:55] <adzy> how do i activate unity?
[09:55] <drk-matr> how do you customize the thing that comes onto the screen when you press the super key in unity....its big and I'd like it to be atleast 25% of the orignal size
[09:55] <cockkk> hello
[09:55] <Giles> Incarus6: I am pretty sure my hardware supports 3D, I had wobbly windows before.
[09:55] <milen8204> Giles, update your drivers manually and restart your PC and Unity will start, it started for me.
[09:55] <cockkk> i hate unity and gnome 3 shit
[09:55] <bazhang> cockkk, no cursing
[09:55] <Seqis> what are the so-called "ubuntu classic desktop" users to do when they remove that option altogether in 11.10
[09:55] <cockkk> can i use gnome clasical
[09:55] <adzy> hey cockkk how do i activate unity?
[09:55] <Giles> Incarus6: I usually have this problem when I upgrade ubuntu, it things I need the nvidia drivers, but my hardware is not nvidia based.
[09:56] <atlef> Vustom, gtk-recordmydesktop
[09:56] <haroon> my wireless start got working using wicd but few application behaves like that their no internet connection (application empathy ,ubuntu one etc all default app) but thurderbird browser and skype is also working  unity 11.04 but when I start that application from terminal using sudo it works
[09:56] <Incarus6> Giles, there are several issues with proprietary drivers in Unity
[09:56] <cockkk> can i use gnome clasical
[09:56] <Giles> milen8204: How did you "update your drivers manually"
[09:56] <cockkk> adzy
[09:56] <bazhang> cockkk, yes choose at login window
[09:56] <cockkk> install graphical drivers
[09:56] <adzy> yes?
[09:56] <MACscr> how do i move the unity launcher to my left menu?
[09:56] <Ubuntu123> I have a problem with ubuntu 11.04
[09:56] <Incarus6> Giles, yes. line 292, [    28.728] (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[09:56] <adzy> cockkk yes?
[09:56] <Giles> Incarus6: I don't have a proprietary driver... its an intel one...
[09:56] <cockkk> install graphical drivers adzy :)
[09:56] <MACscr> er, left monitor
[09:56] <milen8204> Giles, through nvidia site :D i downloaded it and install it
[09:57] <adzy> i had unity running before but dunno how i did it?
[09:57] <Giles> milen8204: I don't have an nvidia card....!
[09:57] <voidr> yeah it is using the intel card but then it wants to use the nvidia....
[09:57] <milen8204> what card do you have ?
[09:57] <Robert__> dear lord when i installed ubuntu i didn't realize it was going to consume my whole life
[09:57] <cockkk> install graphical drivers adzy :)
[09:57] <Giles> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (primary) (rev 0c)
[09:57] <cockkk> i hate unity and gnome 3 shit
[09:57] <cockkk> can i use gnome clasical
[09:58] <voidr> this is what I have http://pastebin.com/W3xjyrwg
[09:58] <Incarus6> Giles, you got two graphic cards? whats the second one?
[09:58] <Giles> Incarus6: eh?
[09:58] <Giles> oh
[09:58] <Giles> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (secondary) (rev 0c)
[09:59] <Incarus6> Giles, nevermind, wrong person ;)
[09:59] <Incarus6> voidr, you use two graphic cards? which is the second one?
[09:59] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....is anyone having same kind of problems...can anyone help?
[09:59] <Giles> Incarus6: but you are right, there are two entries.
[09:59] <voidr> Incarus6, http://pastebin.com/W3xjyrwg
[09:59] <Robert__> any one else feel like Ubuntu is a tad to complicated
[09:59] <Incarus6> Giles, that is correct, both cards are smiliar I think (its just one of them, doesnt matter)
[09:59] <Giles> Robert__: no.
[10:00] <MACscr> No one knows how to move the unity launcher to a different monitor?
[10:00] <Robert__> Giles__:should have guessed id get that answer
[10:00] <waide> Jemand da ? Some1 here?
[10:00] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....is anyone having same kind of problems...can anyone help?
[10:00] <Giles> Incarus6: How can I assure I have 3D working... I have tried glxgears, glxinfo.
[10:00] <bazhang> !de | waide
[10:00] <Shaggy2> I have a problem with rythmbox 0.12.8 the visualisations are lagging is like 1 image refresh per second
[10:00] <Incarus6> voidr, and you prefer the intel or the nvidia? Ah I see, you use Sandybridge. The integrated GPU isn't supported yet
[10:01] <Giles> Ubuntu123: yes
[10:01] <bazhang> Robert__, chit chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:01] <voidr> Incarus6, I would love to have the NVidia card only and somehow disable the intel
[10:01] <muyinliu> hello
[10:02] <Giles> Incarus6, I would love to have the intel card only and somehow disable the NVidia ;)
[10:02] <voidr> but other way around would be fine too I gues Incarus6
[10:02] <Chepoll> Question: Upon booting my computer, it said that a new release of namby or whatever was out, and that i should do-something-something. It installed a GB load of stuff, or so it said,and now I'm unable to do few things. I cannot launch Software-update-center, I cannot apt-get install conkeror, I cannot use my terminal emulator properly urxvt
yes pls...do...i dont know what to do now
[10:02] <Robert__> bazhang__: oh no i have loads of ontopic questions i was just makeing a statement
[10:02] <bazhang> Chepoll, please be more precise
[10:02] <Incarus6> Giles, not in his case, Intel card isnt working here. try "/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p "
[10:02] <Giles> Ubuntu123: Neither do I, I was just saying I am also having problems, and that someone can help ;)
[10:02] <bazhang> Chepoll, some exact error messages would be a good start
[10:02] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/2AbjzqDK
[10:02] <milen8204> Anyone knows how to switch to classic desktop trough Unity?
[10:03] <bazhang> milen8204, at the login window
[10:03] <Incarus6> Tweaky, enable standard repos and disable the "sarvatt" repo
[10:03] <Ubuntu123> Giles:ohh...that's ok....ddi u find any solution
[10:03] <Giles> Incarus6: giles@masala:~$ ls /usr/lib/nux    ls: cannot access /usr/lib/nux: No such file or directory
[10:03] <Chepoll> bazhang: okay, firstly, my error from urxvt : when I try "clear" command, it says "rxvt-256color", unknown terminal type
[10:03] <Acriax> Is Unity configurable in any way? Right clicking doesn't work and I haven't found anything in the settings yet
[10:03] <milen8204> bazhang, could you be more specific ?
[10:04] <Chepoll> When I'm starting ubuntu, it says my hardware is not proper to start unity
[10:04] <Ubuntu123> Giles:same sort of problem as mine?
[10:04] <Incarus6> Giles, are you using Natty (11.04)?
[10:04] <Giles> Ubuntu123: I am trying to find one
[10:04] <bazhang> milen8204, you need to log out of unity then login window choose classic
[10:04] <Giles> Incarus6: yes.
[10:04] <Chepoll> oh, it was "natty", byt the way, the one that I had to install upon boot
[10:04] <Chepoll> I mean, I chose to install
[10:04] <usb333> I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[10:04] <Ciccio89> hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?
[10:04] <milen8204> bazhang, thanks I thing I geet it
[10:05] <magn3ts> wait wait wait, UGR is gnome 3?
[10:05] <magn3ts> Don
[10:05] <magn3ts> Don't they realize 11.10 will come with gnom3?
[10:05] <Acriax> milen8204 the dropdown box to switch to classic is at the bottom of the screen after you've typed in your password
[10:05] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: just got the RESULTS.txt on this notebook from the other system...
[10:05] <Giles> Incarus6: giles@masala:~$ lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID:	Ubuntu Description:	Ubuntu 11.04 Release:	11.04 Codename:	natty
[10:05] <bazhang> magn3ts, pardon?
[10:05] <raven_> shotwell: possible to display all images?
[10:05] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601220/
[10:06] <magn3ts> UGR is a gnome 3 ubuntu variant... 11.10 will come with Gnome 3 available as well, so what's the point of UGR?
[10:06] <magn3ts> bazhang, ^
[10:06] <milen8204> Acriax,  thanks I understand now :D
[10:06] <kaiyin> Please have a look at this: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/5906/
[10:06] <bazhang> magn3ts, yes?
[10:06] <Incarus6> voidr, try: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/disable-integrated-graphics-before-new-card-install-513665/ disable the Intel graphic card, according to phoronix some GPUs from intelsandybridge aren't supported yet
[10:06] <kaiyin>  is there any problem with the swap partition?
[10:06] <magn3ts> so what exactly is the point of UGR??
[10:06] <voidr> thanks Incarus6
[10:06] <bazhang> magn3ts, what precisely is ugr
[10:07] <magn3ts> Ubuntu Gnome Remix
[10:07] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: I'm almost certain that your BIOS is booting from either sdb or sdc.
[10:07] <magn3ts> It was in reaction to unity.
[10:07] <bazhang> magn3ts, no such entity
[10:07] <magn3ts> ?
[10:07] <Ciccio89>  hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?
[10:07] <ejv> whats ugr
[10:07] <magn3ts> http://ugr.teampr0xy.net/
[10:07] <mbrochh> how can i prevent ubuntu from locking the screen after some idle time?
[10:07] <Incarus6> voidr, I think the Sandybridge will be fully supported later this year
[10:07] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: it has detect the 320 (usual boot) and shows as the first in the boot order... and also lists the 1T as secondary, and the FreeAgent (USB) and third
[10:07] <bazhang> magn3ts, completely unsupported derivate
[10:08] <Tweaky> incarus6: i dont see anything in software center that says sarvatt and i believe i only have standard repos on right now
[10:08] <ejv> thx magn3ts
[10:08] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: there would be no reason for it to fail its own internal order
[10:08] <usb333> Guys, I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery".
[10:08] <magn3ts> bazhang, I understand.
[10:08] <Giles> Incarus6: where can I get "unity_support_test"
[10:08] <ejv> yea appears that way doesnt it bazhang
[10:08] <gurmal> hi ..again is there a alternate update rather than using sakis3g script for connecting to mobile network (kernel 2.6)
[10:08] <ejv> heheh
[10:08] <magn3ts> I'm asking for speculation as to why they're making their own distro.
[10:08] <ejv> cuz of freedom :)
[10:08] <Incarus6> Giles, it could be that not all packages are installed / upgraded properly. check the dependencies
[10:08] <bazhang> magn3ts, speculation in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:08] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: have just check after Incarus6 asked about it
[10:08] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?
[10:09] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: It could be that the drive is taking long enough to be ready that it's thinking it's not there. Also be sure you're not going by drive enumeration. Drive numbering can change and may not match the way that linux numbers them.
[10:09] <Incarus6> Tweaky, pls paste /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:09] <sveinse> Congratulations on Ubuntu Natty!
[10:09] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Do you have an option for a one time boot menu?
[10:09] <Chepoll> Natty simple broke everything for me
[10:10] <Chepoll> .ask
[10:10] <Giles> Incarus6: How might I do that? I don't know which package to check the dependencies for...
[10:10] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U:  my fstabs are UUID only, I believe I have changed a while ago to display GRUB no matter what, with a timeout of 6 seconds
[10:10] <Chepoll> Are we supposed to repeat our questions when they don't receive an answer?
[10:10] <gurmal> hey some1 please ..again is there a alternate update rather than using sakis3g script for connecting to mobile network (kernel 2.6)
[10:10] <Incarus6> Giles, try "aptitude" and "sudo apt-get install -f"
[10:10] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: is that what you mean?
[10:10] <bazhang> Chepoll, did not see one from you
[10:10] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Your fstab doesn't matter if your BIOS is loading the mbr of the wrong drive.
[10:10] <atlef> !patience |  Chepoll
[10:11] <lifeofguenter> hi all
[10:11] <magn3ts> :/ hmpf.
[10:11] <lifeofguenter> hmm this is weird.. I can not connect to a certain IP (no matter what port)
[10:11] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?
[10:11] <lifeofguenter> but I can ping that IP perfectly
[10:11] <Incarus6> Chepoll, please tell us more details in your question, maybe someone will answer it then
[10:11] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: so what do you mean by "one time boot"  ?
[10:11] <Ciccio89> hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?
[10:11] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: sorry if I dit not get it
[10:11] <gurmal> @Chepoll thats what Im doing
[10:11] <Tweaky> incarus6: http://pastebin.com/qdZC6T34
[10:12] <Giles> Incarus6: I issue aptitude, and it says package not installed, sudo apt-get install -f reports: Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[10:12] <Chepoll> bazhang, my error #1: before startx, I can launch "irssi" no problem. AFter I startx, when I try to launch irssi, it says "rxvt-256 color: unknown terminal type"
[10:13] <Hamza> Hello , I have HP Notebook Pavilion dv6 , i7 , 4GB ram ... Ubuntu , Linux Mint stuck when shutting down or Restarting ! HOW to FIX THIS , i CAN't WORK ON WINDOWS !!!
[10:13] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Most BIOSs have an option to "Press F8 for a one time boot menu" (where F8 is just an example, the exact key is different for every BIOS). This will bring up a menu listing your drives and allow you to chose which drive to boot.
[10:13] <Jordan_U> !mint | Hamza
[10:13] <dibs> I am getting stuck when trying to updgrade to natty from mav. is this common?
[10:13] <Laibsch> Hi, I'm looking for help to get back a working initramfs to boot my encrypted LVM: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/initramfs-tools/+question/154973/ (FWIW, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure lvm2 && sudo update-initramfs -u -k all" as suggested earlier unfortunately did not do the trick)
[10:13] <Incarus6> Tweaky, "sudo aptitude clean && sudo aptitude update && sudo apt-get update", then try the aptitude download command again (use copy-paste, its faster)
[10:13] <Hamza> well
[10:13] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: ahhh... not sure if this system has the menu for boot order during the boot, I will check
[10:13] <Hamza> Hello , I have HP Notebook Pavilion dv6 , i7 , 4GB ram ... Ubuntu , Linux Mint stuck when shutting down or Restarting ! HOW to FIX THIS , i CAN't WORK ON WINDOWS !!! Ubuntu 10.10 , 11.4 and 10.04
[10:13] <dibs> Hamza: no one can work on windows?
[10:14] <Hamza> i tried them all on the same machine + FEDORA
[10:14] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?
[10:14] <usb333> I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[10:14] <Hamza> well i using Linux since 1997 , never face such issue with my machines !
[10:14] <Incarus6> Hamza, this isn't an ubuntu related question, try it in #linux
[10:15] <Ciccio89> Ubuntu123, i have same problem
[10:15] <Hamza> even i am getting ready to get rid of this machne and get Dell i5 instead !
[10:15] <Tweaky> incarus6: i get the same error lol. would i be better off perhaps to backup and install new version?
[10:15] <Hamza> WELL it's MAINLY Ubuntu related , Question cause Ubuntu is my major issue ,
[10:15] <Incarus6> Tweaky, no
have u come up with a solution yet?
[10:15] <Hamza> Ubuntu Stuck at Shutting DOWN
[10:15] <Incarus6> Hamza, but Linux Mint to, so it's a kernel issue
[10:15] <Hamza> 10.04 , 10.10 and 11.04 :(
[10:15] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: yes it does, and I have forced to use the HDD 322 (the sda1, also the first in the boot order)... it shows as if it has decompressed some linux image (long line of dots) and then, just blank again
[10:15] <Giles> Hamza: try using the cap-locks key, then people might hear you ;)
[10:16] <Hamza> well check those linux distros am trying for a WEEK
[10:16] <Hamza> UBUNTU's
[10:16] <MaRk-I> !mint | Hamza
[10:16] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Does it always show output before going blank?
[10:16] <Ubuntu123> Yesterday i install propietary nvidia drivers frop repo(270.41.06...which is supported by my graphics card...nVidia GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS..according to nVidia website)...yet i failed to log into unity and classic session.....though a test shows that unity is supported...can anyone help?
[10:16] <bazhang> Hamza, youre using MINT?
[10:16] <gurmal> @ hamza dude I am a novice my self but ... I think some problem with services or grub..... Try  forums .. Try diagnose things yourself ..be patient :)
[10:16] <appi_uppi> hi, what is purpose of using .phd file
[10:16] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: not sure... I can check
[10:16] <Hamza> am not talking about LINXU MINT NOW
[10:16] <Hamza> nope using the lame 11.04
[10:16] <Hamza> Ubuntu
[10:16] <Giles> Ubuntu123: not very patient are we?
[10:16] <Hamza> now and it stuck
[10:16] <Hamza> as well
[10:16] <Incarus6> Ubuntu123, did you try to remove and reinstall?
[10:16] <FloodBot1> Hamza: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:17] <bazhang> Hamza, actual question? or just complaints
yeah
[10:17] <Incarus6> bazhang, he just doesn't want to accept, that that is a kernel issue
[10:17] <lifeofguenter> does ubuntu have some sort of firewall activated by default?
[10:17] <Tweaky> incarus6: alright so whats the next step
[10:17] <lifeofguenter> I can't access a certain IP anymore
[10:17] <Hamza> well Ubuntu 10.04 , 10.10 , 11.04 stuck at shutting down my machine
[10:17] <bazhang> lifeofguenter, iptables?
[10:17] <Shaggy2> I have a problem with rythmbox 0.12.8 on ubuntu 10.04the visualisations are lagging is like 1 image refresh per second
[10:17] <lifeofguenter> iptables are empty bazhang
[10:17] <Hamza> how i can fix this !
[10:17] <Incarus6> lifeofguenter, most linux distributions got a firewall (her iptables)
[10:18] <Ubuntu123> Giles:iguess i am not :))....obsessed with the compiz
[10:18] <bazhang> Hamza, need more info
[10:18] <oussama> Hamza, what machine you are using ?
[10:18] <gurmal> @hamza what does your system log say..whats the error
[10:18] <Jordan_U> !firewall | lifeofguenter
[10:18] <Hamza> NO ERRORS just stuck .
[10:19] <Jordan_U> Hamza: Please stop using all caps.
[10:19] <usb333> Guys, I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[10:19] <MACscr> how do i change which monitor is my primary monitor?
[10:19] <bazhang> Hamza, without errors its impossible to troubleshoot
[10:19] <Hamza> bazhang, HP i7 ,Pavilion dv6 , 4GB Rams  , ATI 1.5 G Graphics .
[10:19] <Giles> Ubuntu123: heh, I did compiz --replace...
[10:19] <incorrect1> has anyone tried gnome3?
[10:19] <lifeofguenter> Jordan_U, / Incarus6 iptables and ufw are deactivated - but I still can't access the IP
did it work?
[10:19] <PresuntoRJ> it blinks really fast to the black screen, but I could read something like:
[10:19] <omnibrain> so im installing ubuntu, what kind of partitions does it need, a swap (=size of my ram), a root / and anything else?
[10:19] <PresuntoRJ> DMI Check............................................................................................
[10:19] <ratc> what's the purpose of a dummy upgrade package? firefox likes to use a lot of them it seems
[10:19] <PresuntoRJ> AMD data change... Update to new
[10:19] <bazhang> incorrect1, got a question about it? its unsupported from a PPA
[10:19] <Giles> Ubuntu123: I have window shadows but no wobbly windows.
[10:19] <gurmal> ps i hate mec ....bye
[10:20] <Hamza> bazhang, the machine stuck i can't get error cause the splash screen !
[10:20] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: then Boot from CD:
[10:20] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: and blank
[10:20] <Jordan_U> Hamza: Try booting without the "splash" kernel parameter. That should disable the splash at boot and shutdown. Then if possible take a picture of the last output on the screen.
[10:20] <incorrect1> bazhang, i was wondering how stable it currently is, i've seen the ppa and i know it will trash unity
[10:20] <bazhang> Hamza, then disable splash and note down the errors
[10:20] <Acriax> is it possible to move the ubuntu bar from top to the bottom?
and did unity work?
[10:20] <bazhang> incorrect1, not at all stable. avoid PPA
[10:20] <Incarus6> lifeofguenter, there is another "firewall" app, I can't remember the name, moment
[10:20] <Giles> Ubuntu123: well compiz spat out : Profile     : unity
[10:20] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: None of that sounds like decompressing a kernel.
[10:21] <kbrosnan> ratc: they are a common thing in the deb/apt-get package managemnet system
[10:21] <Giles> Ubuntu123: amongst other things.
[10:21] <incorrect1> bazhang, thanks, i am just starting to find unity too incomplete for my desktop
[10:21] <kbrosnan> ratc: they have nothing specific to do with Fireofx
[10:21] <Giles> Ubuntu123: but, isn't unity supposed to have a different start menu?
[10:21] <Hamza> bazhang, i did that but the machine FREEZED
[10:21] <incorrect1> i figured i might try gnome3
so it worked to some extent
[10:21] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I am pretty sure it is the usual BIOS Post of my system... the ...................................... that called my attention before that looked like a kernel decompression
[10:21] <MACscr> nvm, figured it out. xrandr --output DVI-1 --primary seemed to do it
[10:21] <Jordan_U> incorrect1: If you are thinking of firestarter please don't recommend it. There is a reason it was removed from the ubottu factoid.
[10:21] <ratc> kbrosnan , so what purpose do they serve?
[10:22] <Incarus6> lifeofguenter, SElinux and/or apparmor
[10:22] <omnibrain> if i dont specify a home partition during install it will put it in "/"?
[10:22] <Giles> Incarus6: I think I am actually *in* unity all along, but I don't have the weird new menus
[10:22] <Jordan_U> omnibrain: Yes.
[10:22] <usb333> Guys, I just upgraded to Natty and it won't boot. It says "The disk drive for / is not ready yet or not present. Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[10:22] <Incarus6> Tweaky, where is the main repo?
[10:22] <kbrosnan> ratc: don't know deb packaging well enough to say. i suspect they allow for validating or merging packages
[10:22] <Giles> Incarus6: Do I prehaps need to  reset my users desktop settings?
[10:23] <dibs> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601231/ how can I fix this so I can upgrade, being trying to get help since yesterday
[10:23] <Incarus6> Giles, No. Did you restart your computer and tried to select the Unity desktop again?
[10:23] <MnCC> in search of a good backup utility .. any recommendations ? i must be able to backup/restore my ubuntu partition
[10:23] <bazhang> dibs, try another mirror yet?
[10:23] <Incarus6> Tweaky, nevermind, its in line 5 i think
[10:24] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: so, I still don see any reason why it wont boot... in the live I can see the files are in the correct position... I have md5sum check them with my laptop, the /etc/grub seems sane, why would it be gone? is there a way to force the update-grub2 and update-initramfs -u from the live CD onto my "dead" system?
[10:24] <Ciccio89> hi, i have this problem: i install ubuntu 11.04 but now the visual effects do not work. I have a video card nvidia geforce go 7300 and drivers that are installed are those that you recommend ubuntu. can you help me?
[10:24] <bazhang> !sbackup | MnCC
[10:24] <mouse> Okay for some reason ubuntu won't recognize a certain bootable usb device.  It will mount/unmount others but not this one.  And I can still boot from it so I know the usb hasn't gone bad.  How do I mount it or reformat it?
[10:24] <Giles> Yeah, after removing the Nvidia drivers yes, and when I logged back in I get the classic desktop, but the menu bar "slides" down (a visual effect)
[10:24] <talntid> MnCC, duplicity
[10:24] <omnibrain> omg what partition should i select for the bootloader
[10:24] <MnCC> thanx
[10:24] <Giles> Incarus6: Yeah, after removing the Nvidia drivers yes, and when I logged back in I get the classic desktop, but the menu bar "slides" down (a visual effect)
[10:24] <Jordan_U> omnibrain: Do *not* install grub's boot sector to a partition. Install it to the mbr.
[10:25] <Giles> Incarus6: How can I enable the other visual effects, such as wobbly windows?
[10:25] <dibs> bazhang: how do I change to a different Mirror. I was hoping to get from a NZ one if possible
[10:25] <ratc> kbrosnan , i think i understand now. if you install something by hand, it won't show up in you packet manager, and if some package require an other that is installed by hand, a dummy package needs to be installed so the package can't complain a package can't be found
[10:25] <Incarus6> Tweaky, I have no Idea why you can't download these packages. I think you have to download all of these by hand (packages.ubuntu.com, allways from "maverick")
[10:25] <Bojan_> Icarus6 install ubuntu tweak
[10:25] <omnibrain> Jordan_U, where is the mbr, is it "/dev/sda1 Windows 7 (loader) ?
[10:25] <bazhang> dibs, in synaptic package manager , if memory serves
[10:26] <Incarus6> Giles, I don't know, I'm using KDE. Unity isn't working for me
[10:26] <Jordan_U> omnibrain: No. It is /dev/sda
[10:26] <Bojan_> or just change to wobly in compiz
[10:26] <omnibrain> ok
[10:26] <Giles> Bojan_: How do I configure compiz?
[10:26] <bazhang> !ccsm | Giles
[10:27] <Giles> bazhang: ta
[10:27] <Tweaky> incarus6: alright
[10:27] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: any ideas ?
[10:27] <Bojan_> thats it ubottu
[10:27] <Incarus6> Tweaky, so please download them in one directory (also the "security" packages)
[10:27] <andeeeuk> do not whatever you do upgrade to gnome3 it is a pile of shit!!!
[10:27] <kaban> hello
[10:27] <andeeeuk> skrews everything up!
[10:27] <Bojan_> will have to log out and log in again if you are using unity
[10:27] <bazhang> andeeeuk, no cursing
[10:27] <Bojan_> after changing to wobly
[10:28] <Incarus6> !gnome3 | andeeeuk
[10:28] <andeeeuk> great absolutly great!!!
[10:28] <Bojan_> gnome 3 ppa chrashes unity
[10:28] <PresuntoRJ> andeeeuk: not because its bad, but because it changes most of the libraries to Gnome3 and Ubuntu (Natty included, specially Unity) uses Gnome2
[10:28] <andeeeuk> breaks everything
[10:28] <andeeeuk> how can i get it all back
[10:28] <andeeeuk> lol
[10:28] <Bojan_> jap
[10:28] <andeeeuk> i cant seem to do anything now :s
[10:28] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, "safe downgrading is not possible."
[10:29] <bazhang> andeeeuk, #ubuntu-offtopic for complaints. here for actual support
[10:29] <Bojan_> yap i reinstalled
[10:29] <kaban> I upgrade my ubuntu do 11.04 serverx does not start... here is my log: http://wklej.org/id/521203/ how can I solve this problem?
[10:29] <andeeeuk> oh my days!!!!
[10:29] <Incarus6> Tweaky, write me if you finished
[10:29] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Follow this guide: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide and run grub-install against all of your drives. If that doesn't fix things then please file a bug report.
[10:29] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: sorry man, are you still online?
[10:29] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Also try holding shift during boot.
[10:30] <Acriax> Is it possible to use Ubuntu Classic with the Unity color scheme?
[10:30] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I will see what I can do ;) be right back
[10:30] <Incarus6> kaban, reinstall fglrx
[10:30] <Acriax> For me it keeps the dark gray color scheme for about 10-15 seconds after login, and the switches over to the oldschool plain light grey one.
[10:30] <milen8204> what was the name of music editing program audacacy or some like that ?
[10:31] <Acriax> audacity
[10:31] <Bojan_> audacity
[10:31] <Ubuntu_user> anybody facing problem with windows 7 and ubuntu dual boot, i have found fixed soulution?
[10:31] <milen8204> Acriax, thanks you saving me today :D
[10:31] <kaban> thanks incarus6, i will try :)
[10:31] <spirals> Which package provides tab completion for various utilities in the shell? Vanilla Debian doesn't do that
[10:32] <Jordan_U> spirals: bash-completion
[10:32] <spirals> Jordan_U, thanks!
[10:32] <Jordan_U> spirals: You're welcome.
[10:32] <Acriax> so anyone know why it is switching back to the light grey colour-scheme after a few seconds?
[10:33] <Tetsuo55> lol this a funny bug, i switched to a higher resolution and all the windows are stuck in the old resolution
[10:33] <dooglus> when I update, apt-get gives me an error message:
[10:33] <dooglus> W: GPG error: http://server natty InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2
[10:33] <loseweighttttttt> i keep getting 'failiure in name resolution' what should i do?
[10:33] <dooglus> is it safe?
[10:33] <loseweighttttttt> this happens when i try to yum update or yum install
[10:33] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, yum?
[10:33] <Incarus6> loseweighttttttt, are you suing opensuse?
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> yes yum
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> no im using centos
[10:34] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, wrong channel
[10:34] <Incarus6> bazhang, I think its the opensuse "apt-get"
[10:34] <Incarus6> or centos
[10:34] <andeeeuk> so what can i do to get my ubuntu back to its original state?
[10:34] <M0TRN> loseweighttttttt, why are you asking Centos question in #ubuntu?
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> no1 is talking in centos though
[10:34] <bazhang> #centos loseweighttttttt
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> i was hoping some1 here could help
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> i know its not the correct channel but
[10:34] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, then be patient
[10:34] <dooglus> I'm asking an ubuntu question
[10:34] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, no
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> it is a kind of general question not specific to any operating system
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> so please help
[10:34] <loseweighttttttt> PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!
[10:35] <FloodBot1> loseweighttttttt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:35] <M0TRN> loseweighttttttt, no its not
[10:35] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, be patient in #centos
[10:35] <Incarus6> loseweighttttttt, change the mirror. and dont ask here
[10:35] <loseweighttttttt> what takes more effort
[10:35] <loseweighttttttt> telling me to change channel
[10:35] <loseweighttttttt> or
[10:35] <Incarus6> dooglus, looks like a typo
[10:35] <loseweighttttttt> just helping me?
[10:35] <FloodBot1> loseweighttttttt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:35] <Ubuntu_user> !please | loseweighttttttt
[10:36] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, stop.
[10:36] <loseweighttttttt> fine
[10:36] <linux> Please!
[10:36] <dooglus> when I update, apt-get gives me an error message: "W: GPG error: http://server natty InRelease: The following signatures were invalid: NODATA 1 NODATA 2".  what does that mean?
[10:36] <loseweighttttttt> i take it ubuntu doesnt have yum
[10:36] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, no it does not
[10:37] <andeeeuk> bazhang is it possibly to get back to my original version on ubuntu 11.04?
[10:37] <Incarus6> dooglus, http://server is not a valid server
[10:37] <dooglus> Incarus6: it's my apt-cacher server
[10:37] <bazhang> andeeeuk, version of what
[10:37] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, install another desktop, remove gnome and reinstall gnome again
[10:37] <Bojan_> wish thayve changed the notification system in unity, better on gnome 3 much bether
[10:37] <dooglus> Incarus6: it's worked for years, and still works ("Get:1 http://server/security/ natty-security/main firefox-globalmenu i386 4.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.11.04.1 [50.5 kB]") - but I'm getting that GPG error since yesterday
[10:37] <andeeeuk> bazhang gnome is not intsalled and will not reinstall again because of dependancies
[10:38] <Incarus6> dooglus, it could be that something had changed, that it doesn't work anymore
[10:38] <bazhang> andeeeuk, were you using the unsupported PPA of gnome3?
[10:38] <fcuk112> what's the best way to fix iphone mount support in natty?
[10:38] <andeeeuk> no i was using the official
[10:38] <Incarus6> bazhang, he installed gnome3 and is trying to revert to gnome2
[10:38] <loseweighttttttt> anyway i solved the problem
[10:38] <bazhang> andeeeuk, there is no official gnome3
[10:38] <loseweighttttttt> changed the nameserver in resolve.conf
[10:39] <loseweighttttttt> thanks for the help, !thanks
[10:39] <loseweighttttttt> !sarcasm
[10:39] <DirtyDawg> loseweighttttttt: try ##linux
[10:39] <andeeeuk> ok well i was sure it was the right one
[10:39] <Incarus6> loseweighttttttt, should I call OP?
[10:39] <loseweighttttttt> it wont let me type in there
[10:39] <bazhang> Incarus6, no need
[10:39] <clakes> is there any advantage in runnin a classic ubuntu on 11.04 as opposed to 10.10?
[10:40] <bazhang> clakes, depends on you
[10:40] <Incarus6> still downloading, Tweaky?
[10:40] <dFshadow> anyone pull off dual boot on an existing macbook pro with the latest ubuntu?
[10:40] <dFshadow> from a USB
[10:40] <dFshadow> to boot from the USB to install i mean
[10:40] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I am still going to try the chroot, but just FYI, holding the SHIFT during the boot will also write a Loading GRUB message, but still gets me no where but to the blank screen... could it be an impossibly high resolcution setting for the GRUB menu no to show?
[10:40] <clakes> i mean... i upgraded to natty but only noticed themeing issues so far
[10:41] <Wally> dFshadow like option boot?
[10:41] <clakes> elegant gnome won't stick on a standard ubuntu session
[10:41] <bazhang> clakes, you can use classic, unity 3d or install 2d if your card does not support 3d
[10:41] <dFshadow> N'Wally: not sure what option boot refers to
[10:41] <zaf_> hi there
[10:41] <Witchsong> No one here knows how to add another icon set to LibreOffice?
[10:41] <Wally> When you boot your mac, hold down option.. you should see your USB drive there.
[10:42] <zaf_> i have a problem with webmin and mon
[10:42] <zaf_> can anyone help me
[10:42] <bazhang> Witchsong, tried the libreoffice channel yet?
[10:42] <clakes> thank you bazhang
[10:42] <bazhang> !webmin | zaf_
[10:42] <dFshadow> yeah but i need to prep another partition before i do that to install the OS to, don't i?
[10:42] <Witchsong> Yeah, but no answer there. Was hoping maybe someone here knew. :)
[10:42] <MACscr> btw, where should we go to properly bitch about unity? I mean "give feedback"?
[10:42] <Wally> yeah use the Bootcamp Assistant.
[10:42] <dFshadow> k
[10:42] <bazhang> MACscr, #ubuntu-offtopic I suppose
[10:42] <Wally> dFshadow quite personally, you'd be better off running it as a VM though
[10:42] <loseweighttttttt> is ubuntu even used for servers? isn't it just a desktop thing
[10:43] <bazhang> loseweighttttttt, yes there is a server edition
[10:43] <dFshadow> why do you say that? my windows install inside a VM is so sluggish that i rarely use it
[10:43] <PresuntoRJ> loseweighttttttt: no, as every linux, its a server thing before and foremost
[10:43] <MACscr> bazhang: im not wanting to chat, i want to give feedback to the developers so they actually know what their users are thinking
[10:43] <bazhang> !server > loseweighttttttt
[10:43] <zaf_> well what can i ude instead webmin
[10:43] <Wally> What sort of Mac do you have?
[10:43] <Incarus6> loseweighttttttt, canonical got a good support for companys
[10:43] <bazhang> MACscr, brainstorm then
[10:43] <PresuntoRJ> loseweighttttttt: but it also has a nice desktop (GUI) on top
[10:43] <Wally> and are you using Virtual box over VMware?
[10:43] <dFshadow> macbook pro 5.1 - first gen unibody
[10:43] <bazhang> !brainstorm | MACscr
[10:43] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: The grub loading tells a lot. I forgot that Ubuntu disables that as well unless you're holding shift. Yes, it coould be that grub is trying to set the resolution too high. If you follow the guide I linked to and uncomment GRUB_TERMINAL=console in /etc/default/grub (before running grub-mkconfig) then it should disable the mode setting by grub.
[10:43] <dFshadow> 4GB RAM
[10:43] <loseweighttttttt> hmm
[10:44] <dibs> HELPP!!!!  I can't upgrade, it just dies but here's the result from my sudo do-release-upgrade. http://paste.ubuntu.com/601236/
[10:44] <dFshadow> 2.53GHz c2d
[10:44] <loseweighttttttt> i've never seen ubuntu offered as os on any hosting companies
[10:44] <Wally> dFshadow if you're not using VMware then there's a problem
[10:44] <Wally> XP runs fine on my Mid 2010 13" MBP
[10:44] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: when I chroot, you mean?
[10:44] <dibs> doesn't dreamhost use some ubuntu?
[10:44] <Incarus6> dibs, you used foreign repo sources, pls poste "apt.log"
[10:44] <Incarus6> *paste
[10:44] <dFshadow> for windows i used parallels, not VMWare
[10:44] <dibs> Incarus6: ty, will post
[10:44] <Wally> Ewww
[10:44] <Wally> Thats even worse than VirtualBox
[10:45] <Wally> Try Vmware.
[10:45] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Yes.
[10:45] <kaban> hello again, I reinstalled fglrx but the same problem...
[10:45] <dFshadow> hmm ok
[10:45] <Neo_Kipl1ng> I just updated system by apt-get, and found out its still version 10.10, is 11.40 really released?
[10:46] <Incarus6> Neo_Kipl1ng, apt-get isn't supposed to upgrade your system, try "update-manager"
[10:46] <andeeeuk> gnome3 destroys everything no not install it!!!
[10:46] <DirtyDawg> :o
[10:47] <Rziz> Hm, where are gdm's theming settings stored? In gconf in /var/lib/gdm?
[10:47] <Incarus6> !upgrade | Neo_Kipl1ng
[10:47] <Neo_Kipl1ng> Incarus6: i tried update-manager -d, same thing
[10:47] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I cannot chroot following the steps there... it complains
[10:47] <PresuntoRJ> bash: groups: command not found
[10:47] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: using Lucid 32bits as Live
[10:47] <Incarus6> Neo_Kipl1ng, "-d" means, that you upgrade to the next unstable version, which isn't released yet, try without "-d"
[10:47] <kaban> Incarus6: i uninstalled fglrx, moved folders /usr/lib/fglrx and /usr/lib32/fglrx to have clear install and installed it again - no resutls
[10:48] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: After what command?
[10:48] <Soothsayer> why do I keep getting the "Fixing recursive fault but reboot is needed!"
[10:48] <Neo_Kipl1ng> Incarus6: thanks, i will try
[10:48] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: just when I try to chroot
[10:48] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601238/ please help. I had only just switched to the fastest mirror which was near-by
[10:48] <Soothsayer> after 11.04 installation, my laptop is kinda acting weird
[10:48] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: What is the exact command you are running?
[10:48] <Keshl> To whoever tried to help me with Wubi a few days ago: Thanks for your help, we got it working now. Rev 211 fixed the bug, it doesn't download a live image and get a version mismatch anymore. Just saying, figured I should let you guys know.
[10:48] <Soothsayer> it doesn't boot at times.. gives that fixing recursive fault , ...
[10:49] <Shaggy2> I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter
[10:49] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: the mounts work, even with the --bind... and chroot does not... I believe the binding with sys is the cause
[10:49] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: not sure how then
[10:49] <Incarus6> kaban, did 10.10 work for you? something is buggy with the driver, or your hardware isn't supported "[   228.444] (WW) fglrx(0): board is an unknown third party board, chipset is supported"
[10:49] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: What is the exact command you are running?
[10:50] <kaban> Incarus6: it worked in 10.10 very well, compiz and so on works fine
[10:50] <Incarus6> dibs, now paste same file, but with: "cat apt.log | grep Broken"
[10:50] <snowrichard> finally got all the packages downloaded for 11.04 upgrade
[10:51] <snowrichard> it says installing them is another 2 hrs
[10:51] <Vustom> Where can I find that folder in the Ubuntu directory that has all the launchers for my currently installed applications?
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: just told you... as the link you have sent me... http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:http://grub.enbug.org/Grub2LiveCdInstallGuide
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> 1- sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> 2- sudo mount --bind /dev /mnt/dev
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> 3- sudo mount --bind /proc /mnt/proc
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> 4- sudo mount --bind /sys /mnt/sys
[10:51] <FloodBot1> PresuntoRJ: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> 5- sudo chroot /mnt
[10:51] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: message
[10:52] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: I just asked you for the single command. I'm sorry but you'd be amazed at what people actually run when they say their following a guide.
[10:52] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: I have no idea why you're getting that error and I need to get some sleep.
[10:53] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: sorry, the single command I have runned that got the message was, as told before, sudo chroot /mnt
[10:53] <Incarus6> kaban, sounds like a regression to me, I would report that as bug to the ubuntu bug tracker.. sry, can't help you with that issue
[10:53] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: but that could be understood by you as if I have jumped steps, and I wanted to demonstrate I have not...
[10:53] <Shaggy2> I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter
[10:53] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: still, no chroot :-(
[10:53] <Vustom> no help? D:
[10:54] <kaban> incarus6: I will try with pure install, many thanks :)
[10:54] <Incarus6> Vustom, I think they are located in a config file, not in a folder
[10:54] <Mrokii> Hello. I have upgraded to 11.04 and wanted to see if the nvidia-drivers are installed. Turns out they are "active" but not "in use". How can I actually use them?
[10:54] <Vustom> There in a folder, I went there before but forgot how to get back. D:
[10:54] <Incarus6> kaban, do you think that will fix it? I would try the live cd (or a persistent live usb stick) first
[10:55] <Incarus6> Mrokii, enable them in "jockey"
[10:55] <Mrokii> Incarus6: erm... what is jokey?
[10:55] <cousin_mario> hello
[10:55] <kaban> Incarus6: I will try livecd first, of course, we will see what happen
[10:55] <blurgh> Has anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse? Or is it depending on developers to fix it?
[10:55] <Neo_Kipl1ng> Incarus6: looks like i must do this: edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades and set Prompt=normal  thanks anyway
[10:56] <Incarus6> Mrokii, type it in the application search form, it will be shown up as "hardware drivers" or something
[10:56] <nubcake> any ideas why i cant install vmware server (stuck at: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[10:56] <nubcake> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]) i keep getting told: The path "/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.35-28-server" is an existing directory,
[10:56] <nubcake> but it does not contain a "linux" subdirectory as expected.
[10:56] <cousin_mario> I had to install the nvidia binary driver from a PPA (v 270) because nvidia-current was lamenting a missing dependency. The new driver sucks though. Is there a way to install the stock one?
[10:56] <Mrokii> Incarus6: ah, okay, but that is what I had already opened (looking for "driver"). The problem is: There is no activate button anywhere.
[10:56] <Incarus6> Neo_K1pl1ing, you can simply run "do-release-upgrade -mode=Normal"
[10:56] <Vustom> nvm
[10:56] <Vustom> got it.
[10:56] <Vustom> gksu nautilus /usr/share/applications
[10:57] <Vustom> :D
[10:57] <FloodBot1> Vustom: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:57] <muneeb> hi, i'm having problem with flashplugin-installer on Natty 64bit
[10:57] <Shaggy2> I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter
[10:57] <nubcake> anyone?
[10:57] <Incarus6> Mrokii, but the driver is listed in the list in that application?
[10:58] <dibs> Incarus6: it's more than I can fit in my bash window. How can I save it to a file for pasting
[10:58] <Mrokii> Incarus6: yes, and at the bottom of the window is this: "This driver is activated but not currently in use." Does that mean I need to do a restart to activate it?
[10:58] <Incarus6> kaban, or a perstistent usb stick, im not sure if fglrx is used as default graphic card driver in the live cd
[10:58] <muneeb> anyone?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601250/
[10:58] <Neo_Kipl1ng> Incarus6: its very good, thank you
[10:58] <cousin_mario> has anyone encountered problems with nvidia-current requiring xorg-video-abi-9 ?
[10:59] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I think I have figured this out, my /usr is on a different partition and I have to mount it before I chroot ;)
[10:59] <Incarus6> dibs, i think you can save it in a file by adding " > FILE.XYZ" at the end of the command
[10:59] <slide> I'm having problems with XChat and Unities app bar. It keeps opening up new copies instead of bringing the current running instance of xchat up to the front
[10:59] <muneeb> i'm not able to use unity... when i start it i get desktop without any sidebar or topbar
[11:00] <Acriax> I don''t get why themes don't apply for me. I can select themes in the appearance preferences, and only that window changes. The application bar and all other windows have a plain grey skin. This is in ubuntu classic
[11:00] <dFshadow> woot VMWare installing now
[11:01] <Incarus6> muneeb, that could help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1721273
[11:01] <muneeb> Incarus6, thanks i'll look into it
[11:01] <pdfman> merhabalar,turkcr bian var mi?
[11:02] <pdfman> کسی فارسی بلده؟
[11:02] <blurgh> Has anyone managed to get global menu working in Eclipse? Or is it depending on developers to fix it?
[11:02] <Incarus6> !ar | pdfman
[11:02] <Incarus6> hu?
[11:03] <Incarus6> !ara | pdfman
[11:03] <cousin_mario> Anyone using nvidia binary driver on natty?
[11:03] <Incarus6> cousin_mario, yes, me
[11:03] <Vustom> Where do I go to select Deluge when I choose to Open with.. when downloading a .torrent file in Firefox?
[11:04] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I have managed to chroot now, and completed the steps... no error messages, for all my HDDs... lets see if it boot now !
[11:04] <pdfman> یشه منو راهنمایی کنین لطفا
[11:04] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: is it shown in the hardware drivers tool?
[11:04] <Incarus6> !arz | pdfman
[11:04] <Incarus6> cousin_mario, yes
[11:04] <preyas__> hey sir i want gnome shell in ubuntu
[11:04] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: did you upgrade from maverick or was yours a fresh install?
[11:04] <preyas__> how can i get it
[11:05] <pdfman> شما فارسی ندارین؟
[11:05] <Incarus6> cousin_mario, I did an upgrade
[11:05] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: I see...
[11:05] <Incarus6> cosuin_mario, isn't it working for you?
[11:05] <preyas__> any1??
[11:05] <preyas__> help
[11:05] <preyas__> needed
[11:05] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: no, I had to install it by hand but then compiz effects aren't available
[11:06] <Mrokii> Incarus6: I have found something on the net. Will try a restart.
[11:06] <Soothsayer> why does Nautilus kinda get hung when I'm safely removing a pen drive!
[11:06] <preyas__> any1 help
[11:06] <lugkhast> preyas__: IIRC it's available from a PPA
[11:06] <someone235> is there a way to integrate thunderbird's calendar with unity's calendar?
[11:06] <Incarus6> pdfman, ما نمی توانیم به فارسی.
[11:06] <preyas__> but if we will install it we cant use unity again i think
[11:06] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: thanks
[11:07] <preyas__> i want both
[11:07] <Incarus6> cousin_mario, you're welcome
[11:07] <preyas__> and also the size of gnome pack is 336 mb
[11:07] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601253/ thanks for looking into this eh
[11:07] <preyas__> any other ubuntu help channel
[11:07] <preyas__> sad
[11:08] <cousin_mario> Incarus6: is it i386 or amd64 you're using?
[11:08] <chilli0> Hello, I just upgraded to 11.04 and it's well I guess okay. I however don't like the whole banshee thing. How can I change rhymbox to be the default player again?
[11:08] <pdfman> زشد شدغخدث سعححخقف هد بشقسه حمثشسث؟
[11:08] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I have got the grub menu now showing as text (good), but as soon as I select the kernel I want, it goes black instead of plymouth... even if I wait long enough for the login to show (and the HDDs stop, probably after a long fsck), nothing ! :-(
[11:08] <pdfman> can anyone support in farsi please?
[11:08] <kaushal> Hi
[11:08] <Incarus6> dibs, try "sudo aptitude download network-manager" and install it with "sudo dpkg -i network-manager*.deb"
[11:08] <kaushal> Can someone please guide me about Networking Issues ?
[11:09] <dFshadow> oh damn i was trying to dual boot but VMWare is like fucking autopilot...easy as cake...
[11:09] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I have even tried to blindly press enter and type my password, and enter... just in case... still nothing
[11:09] <Jordan_U> !farsi | pdfman
[11:09] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: even if I Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get to a console... nothing
[11:09] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Try recovery mode.
[11:09] <pdfman> ok m30
[11:10] <Incarus6> Thank you, Jordan_U. dibs, and do you really need awant-window-navigator? its causing problems, pls remove that too
[11:10] <lugkhast> preyas__: You may have more luck with it in 11.10
[11:10] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: in the grub menu ?
[11:10] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Yes.
[11:11] <Mrokii> Incarus6: Still no success. Do you have any ideas on how I can use the nvidia-drivers?
[11:11] <preyas__> lugkhast, means??
[11:11] <Incarus6> Mrokii, paste "glxinfo"
[11:12] <terseint> Trying to apt-get phppgadmin and want to run it on adiffernt webserver, but when I try to "apt-get install phppgadmin" it tells that it willeven download apache. I don't wat to download pache
[11:12] <jigynet> firefoxjava keeps crashing in my xubuntu/wubi install??
[11:12] <preyas__> lugkhast, ifound it in repo by adding PPA and selected gnome shell
[11:12] <html_inprogress> hi yall
[11:12] <preyas__> lugkhast, will it do my job
[11:13] <Incarus6> jigynet, are you using 10.10?
[11:13] <vampire> hallo
[11:13] <jigynet> i believe so
[11:13] <vampire> hello
[11:13] <Incarus6> jigynet, that was fixed in 11.04, it happend to me in 10.10 too
[11:13] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: it show a quiq text, then black, then old school echos of whatever is on the boot... fixed the discs accordingly... lets see now
[11:13] <jigynet> =/
[11:13] <jigynet> ok i'll update
[11:13] <dibs> Incarus6: I have installed and uninstalled as you mentioned. What should I do next?
[11:13] <Mrokii> Incarus6: one moment, trying something. Maybe I need to do another restart. If so, I will paste the output from glxinfo afterwards.
[11:13] <chilli0> Hello, I just upgraded to 11.04 and it's well I guess okay. I however don't like the whole banshee thing. How can I change rhymbox to be the default player again?
[11:14] <Incarus6> jigynet, its related with the new hardware acceleration feature of adobes flashplugin
[11:14] <jigynet> any issues with updateing wubi 10.10 to 11?
[11:14] <preyas__> chilli, yes
[11:14] <vampire> how can i make my irc on my ip
[11:14] <jigynet> vampire..what?
[11:14] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: on the next boot, still no plymouth... takes for ever, but eventually it got me to the login screen !!! :-D finally
[11:15] <milen8204> What I need to do to mount one partition to my /home folder ?
[11:15] <jigynet> !wubi 11.04
[11:15] <jibadeeha> chilli0, remove Banshee
[11:15] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: a million error on kern.log (apport indicates on login)... :-p lets see now
[11:15] <Incarus6> dibs, I need another paste. pleas apt.log again with "cat apt.log | grep Breaks"
[11:15] <vampire> How do I put my irc on my ip instead of localhost
[11:15] <jigynet> !bug list
[11:15] <jigynet> lol
[11:16] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: It sounds like you have hardware that needs to be blacklisted from the new early mode setting feature. *please* file a bug report as this should be easy to fix so that future users with the same hardware don't run into the same problem.
[11:16] <jigynet> whoops
[11:16] <jigynet> sorry about that
[11:16] <jigynet> local host is your ip..
[11:16] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: And please subscribe me, jordanu, to the launchpad bug report.
[11:17] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: the system seems kind of broken yet... I am on Ubuntu-classic, and no window decoration, title bar, nothing... just an edge, menu and terminal or just nautilus...
[11:17] <lehel_> how can i costumize the top bar in 11.04? thanks
[11:17] <jigynet> if you change the local host ip it would mess up some things
[11:17] <Incarus6> dibs, and type "sudo apt-get remove awn-settings-trunk python-awn-trunk avant-window-navigator-trunk awn-applets-c-core-trunk awn-applets-python-core-trunk awn-applets-c-extras-trunk  avant-window-navigator-data-trunk  awn-applets-python-extras-trunk
[11:17] <vampire> no when I want to connect to my ip it don't want
[11:17] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: what package ?
[11:17] <Psychobudgie> lehel_, you can't
[11:17] <preyas__> chilli0,
[11:17] <chilli0> jibadeeha, Yeah I did. However when I use like my buttons on my keyboards it gives me an error saying no such command banshee. When the keyboard command is set to default music player.
[11:17] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: Goodnight.
[11:17] <Jordan_U> PresuntoRJ: grub-pc
[11:17] <preyas__> chilli0,
[11:17] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: to file the bug under...
[11:17] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: ok, I will try
[11:17] <preyas__> chilli0, go to preffered applications
[11:18] <jigynet> vampire, you can't connect to your pc through the same device already used..
[11:18] <preyas__> and then select rhytmbox
[11:18] <Halt> Eh, im using xchat, and i cant seem to get it to auto join channels.
[11:18] <Halt> it just doesn't join them
[11:18] <jibadeeha> preyas__, but isn't that just for multimedia?
[11:18] <lehel_> thanx
[11:18] <chilli0> preyas__, Thank you very much :)
[11:18] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: FYI, I have an nvidia card, runing the nvidia non-free xorg drivers ;)
[11:18] <jigynet> vampire have you tried connecting via another pc on the same network same os?
[11:18] <preyas__> jibadeeha, wat
[11:18] <zniavre> lehel_,  you can only modify the shadow-panel the rest is hardcoded
[11:19] <vampire> no
[11:19] <Psychobudgie> Halt, make sure there are no spaces between the channels i.e. should be #ubuntu,#ubuntu-uk
[11:19] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601255/  have uninstalled all those packages
[11:19] <kaushal> Is there a way to set alert for packet losses ?
[11:19] <preyas__> jibadeeha, what is not for multimedia??
[11:19] <Neo_Kipl1ng> update to 11.40: Need to get 2,199MB of archives. Oh, god! it's too much
[11:19] <preyas__> jibadeeha, i din't understood
[11:20] <jigynet> another way to connect to the pc you are currently useing, is to use another wifi adapter to connect to an ethernet device on the same network or another wifi device that is free, on that pc
[11:20] <jibadeeha> preyas__, if i were to set the multimedia player to rhythmbox what would happen if i selected a video
[11:20] <jigynet> but what exactly are you trying to do, remote connect?
[11:20] <Halt> Psycho, there isn't.
[11:20] <Halt> which is why its weird.
[11:20] <Nece228> hello!
[11:21] <Incarus6> dibs, pls paste "apt-cache policy network-manager"
[11:21] <lucas> i need big help
[11:21] <batman> hi
[11:21] <kaushal> is there a Networking channel under ubuntu ?
[11:21] <Nece228> hello!
[11:21] <Nece228> will unity work on live cd with my nvidia 9500gt?
[11:21] <jigynet> why kaushal?
[11:21] <lucas> basically i ahve ubntu 11.04. i installed gnome 3 and now it wont boot under gnome 3.
[11:21] <Incarus6> Nece228, it is supposed to work, yes
[11:21] <preyas__> kaushal, u from india
[11:21] <lucas> it gets stuck at the screen with the white writing
[11:22] <kaushal> preyas__: yes
[11:22] <preyas__> kaushal, me too
[11:22] <lucas> can i possibly change back to unity during bottup?
[11:22] <Incarus6> lucas, but the login screen is shwoing up?
[11:22] <Nece228> Incarus6: with nouveau? cool
[11:22] <Rehan> Is it possible to use open source nouveau drivers for plymouth and grub2 but use nvidia drivers once i login?
[11:22] <jigynet> what dos the white writeing say?
[11:22] <kaushal> jigynet: where can i seek help for Networking issue ?
[11:22] <lucas> no it doesnt get that fat
[11:22] <Nece228> Incarus6: because i need to try unity before ill install it
[11:22] <lucas> far*
[11:22] <preyas__> kaushal, what your problem
[11:22] <Incarus6> Nece228, should work with the proprietary driver too
[11:22] <preyas__> kaushal, i mean prob in ubuntu
[11:22] <kaushal> preyas__: its a networking issue
[11:23] <preyas__> kaushal, say
[11:23] <preyas__> join me privatly
[11:23] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601259/ cheers
[11:23] <jigynet> kaushal please ask your questions here..or specific channels for specific os's like xubuntu etc have their own channels, but this one covers all issues with ubuntu regardless
[11:23] <lucas> can i change the desktop environment during boot up?
[11:23] <Incarus6> lucas, it doesn't seem to be an unity issue, more a gdm issue. try to reinstall gdm (/or try kdm instead). is the boot logo plymouth shown up?
[11:23] <jigynet> particularly support issues
[11:23] <Incarus6> lucas, no
[11:24] <vampire> it don't work
[11:24] <Mrokii> Incarus6: This is the output from glxinfo: http://pastebin.com/Hs8x8WB8
[11:24] <zak_> how to transfer files (250 GB) from my pc and my new laptop?
[11:24] <jigynet> So, please fel free to include more details on your networking issues
[11:24] <lucas> it gets to the step after the splash screen but doesnt get tyo the boot screen
[11:24] <zak_> how to transfer files (250 GB) from my pc to my new laptop?
[11:24] <Rehan> Is it possible to use open source nouveau drivers for plymouth and grub2 but use nvidia drivers once i login?
[11:24] <rly> zak_: not by getting kicked from the channel, I suppose.
[11:24] <lucas> the last line reads "stopping systen V runlevel compatibility"
[11:24] <Incarus6> dibs, it could be that awn prevented the system from upgrading, try it again.
[11:24] <cousin_mario> zak_: smb is your friend
[11:25] <o_> zak: use dd command
[11:25] <lucas> and it boots up no further
[11:25] <jigynet> vampire, what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:26] <lucas> Aid please?
[11:26] <batguest> hi
[11:26] <Akashaa> hi! I'm installing Ubuntu 10.10 LTS on a new MSI cx623. it has freedos installed only. at the installation my hard drive is not recognised. I've tried the "pci=nomsi" option that I've found on the net, but it did not work. Could someone help me, please?
[11:26] <batguest> i'm using unity and i'm curious if i can remove the workspace switcher
[11:26] <batguest> either by deleting a file, un-installing *something*, gconf or...?
[11:26] <Incarus6> lucas, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lsb/+bug/752393 could be related
[11:27] <batguest> i've disabled the expo plugin in ccsm but the icon remains in the launcher
[11:27] <zak_> how to transfer files (250 GB) from my pc to my new laptop?
[11:27] <dibs> Incarus6: Awesome, thanks, your a credit to this OS
[11:27] <jigynet> aka are u sure it has a hd??freedos can be run from cmos??
[11:27] <linux> Oh, no.
[11:27] <jigynet> or a flash drive..
[11:27] <lucas> incarus6, sadly this doesnt help. im not that tech savvy with ubuntu yet
[11:27] <linux> What is flash drive.
[11:28] <Soothsayer> how do you install flash player for Firefox?
[11:28] <Incarus6> dibs, try if it works. one of these packages is causing the issue
[11:28] <jigynet> lol
[11:28] <vampire> how do I put also a game on localhost
[11:28] <Incarus6> lucas, are you still using the alpha or beta release?
[11:28] <Incarus6> !flash | Soothsayer
[11:28] <lucas> im using the final release. i was asked if id like to upgrade on login
[11:28] <jigynet> a flash drive is often a usb device that uses ddr solid state technology to store data
[11:29] <Incarus6> lucas, strange. sry, I dont know how to fix that
[11:29] <jigynet> a game is not seeing your local host i[p?
[11:29] <lucas> is there no way to get to login screen with a debug option or something?
[11:29] <lucas> i just need to log in or get to that screen
[11:30] <Curly_Q> Vampire if you are running a daemon on your Linux box your localhost is 127.0.0.1 connect to that IP address.
[11:30] <jigynet> lucas have you tried to restore it with recovery mode?
[11:30] <varunvyas> Hi all thanks, I am now on 11.04
[11:30] <jigynet> vampire do u have a fw?
[11:30] <kezzawd> Hi all - I'm on Natty and some appindicators are installed but I can't find how to load them - indicator-cpufreq for instance - any ideas ??
[11:30] <lucas> explain how i do that please
[11:30] <varunvyas> I wanted to know where is adminstration and system tab movd ?
[11:30] <andeeeuk> is there anyway to reinstall ubuntu 11.04 after you have installed gnome3?
[11:30] <Incarus6> dibs, still here? pls paste "apt-cache policy libreoffice-core"
[11:31] <kezzawd> u could try sudo apt-get purge gnome 3 && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ?
[11:31] <truckface> i am on ubuntu 10.10 and would now like to run the upgrade to 11.04... i have a hp g62 with ATI gfx-card... are there any reported error which makes an upgrade troublesome to do ?
[11:32] <lucas> no worries. it just worked...
[11:32] <varunvyas> ?
[11:32] <jigynet> well, if you dont know how, then there is alot there you wont know.. are you familiar with sudo apt-get dpkg-reconfigure unity?
[11:32] <jigynet> ye that
[11:32] <lucas> what the hell?!
[11:32] <jigynet> what kezz said
[11:32] <andeeeuk> kezzawd thanks i will give it a go
[11:33] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, I allready told u: remove gnome(3) completly and remove the gnome3 ppa and install gnome again
[11:33] <Akashaa> I've change AHCI mode of SATA hard drive to IDE for installation, but this changed the CD driver too. Thus my CD is not recignised. What can I do?
[11:33] <Mrokii> Incarus6: If I look at that glxinfo-output it looks to me as if the nvidia-drivers are installed. What do you think?
[11:33] <jigynet> lucas kez
[11:33] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: I am sorry... every time I try to ubuntu-bug grub-pc it gives me an Error13: no route to host ! but I have internet access, and I am actually at launchpad right now
[11:33] <PresuntoRJ> Jordan_U: new bug?
[11:33] <jigynet> s command lines would be similar to your issue as well
[11:33] <Incarus6> Mrokii, whats the exact problem you got atm? Unity isn't working, right?
[11:33] <andeeeuk> Incarus6 thanks
[11:33] <d3vlin> howdy.. I tried some things with compiz-configuration, but after restart when I boot into Unity all I get is background and pointer. How to restore menu's?
[11:34] <dibs> Incarus6: I'm in the middle of a upgrade which is caluclating changes, can I still do what you mentioned safely?
[11:34] <andeeeuk> there is no specfic gnome app
[11:34] <jigynet> aka change it back..
[11:34] <Incarus6> dibs, this command is just looking up version numbers, so yes
[11:34] <kezzawd> anyone any idea how to enable indicator-cpufreq appindicator in Natty ?
[11:34] <jigynet> hmm
[11:34] <jigynet> i need to update brb
[11:35] <jigynet> hey
[11:35] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: install the ppa, install the package, run indicator-cpufreq from the shell
[11:35] <jigynet> how rude hxing
[11:35] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: it worked for me
[11:35] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601263/
[11:35] <varunvyas> Need help . on 11/04, where's system administration ab
[11:35] <varunvyas> tab*
[11:35] <Mrokii> Incarus6: Nope, it seems that Unity is working. At least I got that dock-like thing on the left and I can search for items. My sole problem is that the hardware-drivers-app tells me that the nvidia-drivers aren't used. Though I am able to start a game that uses a 3D-environment, if that is anything to judge from. Basically all I want is to make sure that the nvidia-drivers are installed.
[11:35] <andeeeuk> Incarus6 im actually logged into a gnome3 session
[11:36] <truckface> i am on ubuntu 10.10 and would now like to run the upgrade to 11.04... i have a hp g62 with ATI gfx-card... are there any reported error which makes an upgrade troublesome to do ?
[11:36] <kezzawd> PresuntoRJ - yeah - that's what I thought but not working for me ?
[11:36] <kezzawd> Just stalling in the shell
[11:36] <andeeeuk> and if you say apt get remover gnome3 it says the package does not exist
[11:36] <jigynet> !samsung
[11:36] <Incarus6> Mrokii, could be a wrong error, are all 3D things like games still working?
[11:37] <Incarus6> andeeeuk, I would install another smaller desktop (like xubuntu-desktop), log into that and remove gnome
[11:37] <root> hi
[11:37] <andeeeuk> Incarus6 ok I will give that a go also, thanks
[11:38] <dibs> Incarus6: It still fails the same :(
[11:38] <kezzawd> hang on - lookls like a bug - appindicator is there but icon is not - it's squeezed between two other indicators without the icon
[11:38] <andeeeuk> think it has messed a lot up though :s
[11:38] <Guest51227> pls help with wifi on BT 4
[11:38] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: what version do you have installed? mine is 0.1.2 from ppa:artfwo/ppa
[11:38] <dregin1> lads
[11:38] <atlef> !root | Guest51227
[11:38] <dregin1> wtf
[11:38] <dregin1> this unity business
[11:38] <dregin1> it is a fucking ABORTION
[11:38] <Mrokii> Incarus6: I only have this one game (Planeshift) which was only usable on 10.10 with nvidia-drivers installed. And yes, as far as I can tell, all works. I was just confused about the message shown by the hardware-driver-app, telling me that the drivers aren't used. But from the impression I got (the game works flawless) it seems they *are* installed. Just confusing.
[11:38] <FloodBot1> dregin1: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:38] <zepherin> updating ubuntu yay, I wonder what this update breaks
[11:38] <atlef> !backtrack | Guest51227
[11:38] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: and I believe you have to be in Unity GUI, not gnome (Ubuntu-Classic)
[11:38] <linux>  Guest51227: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux), Ultimate Edition
[11:38] <Incarus6> dibs, I need the new "apt.log (grep Broken)"
[11:39] <Guest51227> what?
[11:39] <Hedgehog456> I like Unity
[11:39] <kezzawd> PresuntoRJ - what's simplest way for me to see what version ?
[11:39] <jdobrien> Running 11.04 on a system with Nvidia 9600 GT, have "Nvidia accelerated graphics driver"  activated but it not in use, does that mean I am not using Unity 3D?
[11:40] <CQ> I get this warning when running sensors-detect from lm-sensors: Warning: the required module sbs is not currently installed .... I can't find sbs anywhere, and googling isn't much help... any ideas?
[11:40] <Guest51227> ňňňúquit
[11:40] <PresuntoRJ> Hedgehog456: one in a million ;)
[11:40] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601266/
[11:40] <Hedgehog456> It's an acquired taste :P
[11:40] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[11:40] <Mrokii> jdobrien: I have exactly the same problem, though everything looks as if they *are* in use, despite the message.
[11:40] <Hedgehog456> I dislike the way it's changed GTK+ though
[11:41] <dregin1> any ideas how I get to the system settings when using unity???
[11:41] <kezzawd> jdobrien - if compiz is working (have you installed ccsm ?) then you are on 3D - I have similar setup and nvidia driver not in use for me also
[11:41] <fezzik02> My Natty won't detect the correct resolution for my monitor
[11:41] <dregin1> this is absolutely horrible
[11:41] <lapion> How 1337 can a public broadcaster be..
[11:41] <PresuntoRJ> dregin1: click on the Off button , the last option should be for System settings
[11:41] <jdobrien> kezzawd, I have installed it. but I know it's not using the card since the fan isn't running... although the silence is kind of nice :)
[11:41] <fezzik02> When I ran xrandr I got Cannot set crtc 0
[11:41] <dregin> I don't have an off button :p
[11:41] <lapion> in the netherlands today the one o'clock news is exactly at 13:37
[11:41] <Mrokii> kezzawd: Add me to the users with that problem :)
[11:42] <Hedgehog456> dregin: Use the Dash
[11:42] <dregin> It disappeared with the upgrade to 10.10
[11:42] <dregin> what dash?
[11:42] <Hedgehog456> the Ubuntu button on the top left
[11:42] <dregin> ah
[11:42] <Hedgehog456> click it
[11:42] <PresuntoRJ> dregin: in the right top side of the panel... looks like an O with an I inside it
[11:42] <dregin> found it
[11:42] <kezzawd> dregin1 - Use 'Super' and 'A' to bring up the Applications panel and then use the small drop down in the top right to get to System
[11:42] <dregin> hah
[11:42] <PresuntoRJ> dregin: right by your login name
[11:42] <Hedgehog456> then type in what setting you want
[11:42] <dregin> as I hover over the options in the control centre, their icons disappear.
[11:42] <Hedgehog456> you can disable unity and go back to classic ;)
[11:42] <dregin> upgrades of ubuntu NEVER work
[11:43] <Mrokii> jdobrien: That doesn't really make sense. I guess the nvidia-drivers should be less graphics-card-intensive than the open-source drivers. At least that was the impressiion I had when I tried them. So I guess the fan should be running *less*, not *more* with the nvidia-drivers installed and used.
[11:43] <Incarus6> dibs, the mirror seems to be uncomplete, try an official mirror and it should work
[11:43]  * dregin goes off to do a fresh install
[11:43] <dregin> much thanks!
[11:43] <kezzawd> PresuntoJR - I'm using same version as you
[11:43] <Incarus6> dibs, the mirror doesn't deliver packages like libreoffice-style and thats the reason why the upgrade fails
[11:43] <mah454> I need repository for simple-ccsm for ubuntu-11.04
[11:44] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: the worst thing I have against unity right now, GUI is for MOUSE, I could use keyboard as an alternative (and I do) not as the ONLY input
[11:44] <jdobrien> I'll crank up quake-live or something. That should get em going
[11:44] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: 7 clicks to accomplish anything has got to be a design flaw
[11:44] <aliceminer> is there a way to revert ubuntu 11.04 gui back to ubuntu 10.10
[11:44] <dibs> Incarus6: ah, should it not ignore it as a 3rd party app?
[11:44] <jdobrien> Mrokii, I'll crank up quake-live or something. That should get em going
[11:44] <Incarus6> !ccsm | mah454
[11:44] <aliceminer> I mean I don't quite like the new gui
[11:44] <aliceminer> gnome 3.0 :<
[11:44] <kire> when using the window picker from compiz scale, I can't close windows with middle mouse button anymore since natty, is there any way to enable this again?
[11:45] <PresuntoRJ> aliceminer: you can choos the ubuntu-classic in an option where you login
[11:45] <PresuntoRJ> aliceminer: then you get a clear gnome, like ubuntu used to be
[11:45] <aliceminer> really?
[11:45] <kezzawd> PresuntoRJ Yeah - but I'm kinda getting more used to using the 'Super' key and combinations - which feels better and is relatively rodent neutral
[11:45] <aliceminer> nice
[11:45] <PresuntoRJ> aliceminer: gnome-2
[11:45] <mah454> I use standard repository for install this . but receive dependency ... !
[11:45] <aliceminer> cool
[11:45] <aliceminer> cool
[11:46] <mah454> ubottu I use standard repository for install this . but receive dependency ... !
[11:46] <aurelien_> what is this shit
[11:46] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: ok, me too... but cannot be the ONLY way to accomplish things...
[11:46] <aurelien_> i install the new ubuntu
[11:46] <aurelien_> all my shortcut are gone
[11:46] <aurelien_> for parameters
[11:46] <aurelien_> it sucks
[11:46] <Hedgehog456> Hm
[11:46] <FloodBot1> aurelien_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <Hedgehog456> On the main menu?
[11:46] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: there is no link/icon/button to show the desktop... only Super+D
[11:46] <Hedgehog456> aurelien_: On the main menu?
[11:46] <aliceminer> so all I have to do is to choose gnome-2 in the login
[11:46] <aliceminer> lol
[11:46] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: anoungst other things
[11:46] <Incarus6> dibs, there are several other problems packages that causes problems
[11:46] <aurelien_> config menus are gone
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> System etc?
[11:47] <aurelien_> yes
[11:47] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: the problem is the ONLY portion
[11:47] <aurelien_> parameters
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> aurelien_: Okay
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> Click the power button and then 'System Settings'
[11:47] <aurelien_> oh ok
[11:47] <aurelien_> thank you
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> All your preferences and admin stuff will be in there
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> :D
[11:47] <PresuntoRJ> kezzawd: my mom will never (she asked me not to) upgrade her ubuntu if she HAS to use Unity, cause she HATES the keyboard to get things done
[11:47] <Hedgehog456> And you can look for apps in the Dash
[11:49] <Incarus6> lol: "CTCP VERSION-Anfrage von hxing_!~hxing@119.4.252.88 erhalten"
[11:49] <kezzawd> PresuntoRJ lol - I'm pretty comfortable with Unity myself, although I'd like to see what a more mature Gnome3 has to offer as an alternative. I guess we're going to be moving away from the 'classic' Gnome2 desktop overtime in any case
[11:49] <Mrokii> btw, I have another problem. It seems I can't find any apps when typing them in the search-box that pops up when one clicks on the Ubuntu-symbol.
[11:50] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, she could also use the classic gnome
[11:50] <folklore> hope ubuntu teams realizes forcing something as drastic as unit on users without the option to revert back wasn't the best of ideas
[11:50] <Mrokii> I mean, Ubuntu doesn't show them, like when I type "terminal" for example or "Firefox". It's only showing documents, as it seems.
[11:50] <folklore> Ubuntu isn't like other distros, it's taken very serious and is very popular
[11:50] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: there wont be a Ubuntu-classic for 11.10
[11:50] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: so, not really a solution
[11:50] <gib0t> is there any suggestion to make the icons of the unity startmenu smaller
[11:50] <_3dioot> can i ask for some help in here?
[11:50] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, kezzawd, I think a new derivative called gubuntu will be created
[11:51] <MACscr> btw, i highly would not recommend telling people to use gnome 2 (classic) if they dont like unity as it appears the classic mode wont be an option with 11.10. So If people dont like unity, they might as well find a new OS from the looks of it. Im starting to do my hunt now unfortunately
[11:51] <Mrokii> oh wait, I solved it.
[11:51] <_3dioot> i am new to ubuntu :)
[11:51] <PresuntoRJ> gib0t: you need to adjust it in the compiz setting for the Unity component
[11:51] <fezzik02> I need help, too
[11:51] <Incarus6> MACscr, e17, lxde, kde, or gubuntu ;)
[11:51] <_3dioot> we all need help with something probably ^_^
[11:51] <_3dioot> haha
[11:51] <fezzik02> lol
[11:52] <_3dioot> anyway i have a wacom.. and i cant fix the proportions
[11:52] <bincoro> good morning everybody
[11:52] <_3dioot> i have a dual monitor setup
[11:52] <atlef> !ask | _3dioot fezzik02
[11:52] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: remember the system I had that just would not boot? now that it boots, I have no network access
[11:52] <kezzawd> Cruncbang is debian based and uses fluxbox - it's a good one
[11:52] <jdobrien> Mrokii, did you remove zeitgeist?
[11:52] <gib0t> PresuntoRJ: thx
[11:52] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, wireless?
[11:52] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: I get IP, DNS, etc... but no route to host for anything I try... even posting a bug report :-p
[11:52] <Shaggy2> I have a logitech g15 Keyboard. I want to use the LCD display in ubuntu does anyone know how I can go about this, or where I can find help on this matter
[11:52] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, and irc is still working?
[11:53] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: nope... cat5e UTP cable directly connected to the router
[11:53] <fezzik02> Ok, so the computer doesn't recognize the correct resolution for my LCD
[11:53] <dibs> Incarus6: Is it not normal to have non standard packages installed? I don't understand why my system is having issues, Just want to try 11.
[11:53] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: I got even IP and DNS from DHCP... but no network
[11:53] <_3dioot> I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 - the Natty Narwhal | I have a dual monitor setup | I use wacom tablet | currently its stretched over my two monitors so the proportions are completely screwed | this needs to be fixed cause i cannot work this way
[11:53] <_3dioot> is that better?
[11:53] <vampire> I'm back
[11:53] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: ip add and ip route also show the expected config
[11:54] <Incarus6> dibs, foreign (unsupported) package repos prevents the system from upgrading. Try the official ppa, after that you could change back to your repo
[11:55] <MACscr> Incarus6: its really to bad that gnome and ubuntu decided to  make such radical changes. If people wanted something so radically different, they would have chosen a different project. Right now i feel like i was given a "bait n switch"
[11:55] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, sry, I don't know anything about that ;) is your network card recognized and is it working properly?
[11:55] <vampire> how I can put a game on my localhost
[11:56] <SoulRaven> hi
[11:56] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: just said that it is... I have got the correct IP from my DHCP... it means it is working
[11:56] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: just cannot get anywhere...
[11:56] <SoulRaven> where i can find a tutoriale for using xtables and account feature?
[11:56] <_3dioot> nobody is willing to lend me a hand with setting up my wacom tablet under ubuntu?
[11:56] <Incarus6> MACsrc,  Canonical tries to increase the amount of desktop computer with ubuntu and they know, that gnome is not the best solution for modern desktop ("multimedia") computer
[11:57] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: total mess on this machine... natty killed it
[11:57] <MACscr> Incarus6: most desktops are not used for multimedia, most are used for productivity
[11:57] <Incarus6> _3dioot, are you using Natty (11.04)?
[11:57] <vampire> ????
[11:57] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: by the way, when I boot from the natty live CD I have just burned, it works... I have IP and Network
[11:58] <raven_> looking for an open street map tool to draw gpx routes for planning a tour
[11:58] <dibs> Incarus6: Does that mean I can just untick the repos and update before trying upgrade or do I need to uninstall anything not from official repos?
[11:58] <jubei> guys unity fails to start :(
[11:58] <jdobrien> gah! Quakelive game launcher is not compatible with Firefox 4.01
[11:58] <MACscr> dibs: just untick anything third party
[11:58] <jubei> i guess it's a known issue huh?
[11:58] <MACscr> you dont have to uninstall them
[11:58] <Incarus6> MACscr, but the normal non-nerd user want a beautiful system, and gnome isn't beautiful in my oppinion ;)
[11:58] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: but the upgrade from maverick could not be more disastrous than what I have got so far... though it has just worked flawlessly in another machine
[11:58] <dibs> sweet
[11:59] <Incarus6> dibs, you don't need to uninstall anything, just disable these unsupported repos and activate the officials
[11:59] <dibs> man, if thats all thats' stopped I will be pissed, the upgrader says it does it for you
[11:59] <MACscr> Incarus6: thats a theme issue imho. You dont decrease productivity to increase "prettyness", EVER.
[11:59] <wozero> wozero
[11:59] <jubei> can somebody help me start unity cooz..it started 1st boot but then refuses to start on subsequent boots
[11:59] <Mrokii> jdobrien: No. But I noticed that I had clicked one of the buttons in the search-box without realizing it, making it look for documents only. It's very hard to notice that, as there is almost no difference between the selected and unselected button.
[11:59] <raven_> looking for an open street map tool to draw gpx routes for planning a tour
[11:59] <jdobrien> Mrokii, whoops. That had to be frustrating
[11:59] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, sry, I can't help you. you could fill out a bug rebort on the ubuntu bug tracker
[11:59] <wozero> hello
[12:00] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: I have an open bug on decrease productivity and it got blocked as an "opinion"
[12:00] <kaiyin> is it possible to run ubuntu or xubuntu withou gdm?
[12:00] <Mrokii> jdobrien: yeah, it definitely needs some refinement there.
[12:00] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: no network means not able to file ubuntu-bug also from that machine... any suggestions?
[12:00] <Incarus6> MACsrc, but if the "good-lucking" windows works as good as the "ugly" gnome, why should you prefer ubuntu? ;)
[12:01] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, create a bug report from another computer and copy the information from yours ;)
[12:02] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: what files should I copy? thats what ubuntu-bug would help me with...
[12:02] <d3vlin> how can I manually start the unity dock? I only have an empty desktop now with cursor
[12:02] <connex> Hi, i just upgraded to natty and i have a problem with the default theme: http://img839.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1114.png/
[12:02] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: and to what package?
[12:02] <cfc_{Pawpad}> good morning
[12:03] <Incarus6> PresuntoRJ, I don't know, ask the people in the bug tracker, after you opened the bug report ;)
[12:03] <jubei> d3vlin,  I have the same problem
[12:03] <Incarus6> BRB
[12:03] <cfc_{Pawpad}> What is LVM
[12:04] <jonathan> hello
[12:05] <milen8204> help me to sudo mount -t ext4  /dev/sta5 /home
[12:05] <Ubuntu_user> How do i install .sh file i downloaded from internet
[12:05] <raven_> looking for an open street map tool to draw gpx routes for planning a tour
[12:05] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: what program are you trying to install?
[12:06] <Ubuntu_user> jrib: netbeans 7.0
[12:06] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: why not use the netbeans in the repository?
[12:06] <vampire> can somebody help
[12:06] <llutz> raven_: viking
[12:07] <llutz> raven_: maybe qlandkartegt
[12:07] <Ubuntu_user> jrib:  that is 6.9
[12:07] <Incarus6> dibs, I hope that fixed it. Im off for 10-20 minutes
[12:07] <Akashaa> hi!, I've created a bootable usb drive with usb-creator-gtk that can be booted well, but at install it still searches for cd-rom, and can't find any.
[12:07] <raven_> llutz, how to "draw" tracks in viking?
[12:07] <NeoCicak> has anyone tried unity2d ? I cant seem to make it to have multiple workspace..... when i click the workspace switcher, only one is shown (top left)... the rest are dark :(
[12:07] <dibs> Incarus6: it's calulating changes still :|
[12:08] <Incarus6> dibs, ok, then me then if it worked or not
[12:08] <d3vlin> jubei: a unity --reset and logging out/back in solved it for me
[12:08] <Sidewinder1> !ask | vampire
[12:08] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: make the file executable (chmod +x file) and execute it (./file).  Keep in mind you should read its documentation to see if there are any special requirements and what to learn what to do if you want to remove it.
[12:08] <Ubuntu_user> made it executable
[12:08] <vampire> ok
[12:08] <Courz> guys?
[12:09] <Courz> someone know how to compile perl script to exe file
[12:09] <llutz> raven_: add track layer, start track, plot the track you want
[12:09] <jrib> Courz: erm, why?
[12:09] <Rehan> guys i'm using grub customizer and for some reason none of the settings I'm saving with it are showing up when i do sudo update-grub, instead i see old settings still being setup in the grub update. Any fix possible for this? Much appreciated.
[12:09] <Courz> i need to compile
[12:09] <jubei> d3vlin, the thing is that I've deleted my boost libraries and upgraded to the latest version of boost and how compiz is looking for libboost1.42.0 :(
[12:09] <Courz> because i want to send someone my program on windows
[12:09] <Courz> and he doesnt have perl installed
[12:09] <jrib> Courz: ask #perl
[12:09] <De|ta> hi, anyone help me out with apache2 under 10.04 LTS server. Have copied some files over to /var/www but I get permission denied in error.log when attempting to access them from a browser
[12:09] <vampire> but my question is how to make my game on localhost and how to make is online
[12:09] <Courz> and have no idea how to execute it
[12:10] <llutz> raven_: "trackwaypoint layer" it is
[12:10] <Ubuntu_user> jrib like file is at /home/username/Desktop/netbeans.sh so can you please tell me complete command to execute it
[12:10] <raven_> llutz, ok i'll try
[12:10] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: I told you the commands
[12:10] <muneeb> does unity --reset takes time?? it stuck at some point very long then i Ctrl-C it...
[12:10] <cfc_{Pawpad}> im trying install ubuntu server 11.04 but im stuck at the chooseing with or with out LVM
[12:10] <De|ta> without LVM
[12:10] <Ubuntu_user> jrib:  I am new to linux........
[12:10] <cfc_{Pawpad}> what dose LVM do?
[12:11] <De|ta> (if you have to ask, you likely don't need it)
[12:11] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: what's your question though?  I told you the command already
[12:11] <De|ta> I'm not sure tbh, I was relaying what I was told (n00b here too)
[12:11] <spacebug-> De|ta: are the file modes correct?
[12:11] <muneeb> does unity --reset takes a lot of time?
[12:12] <De|ta> i'm not sure, but i'm not sure how to check / what they should be set to spacebug-
[12:12] <Ubuntu_user> jrib:  should i type  ./home/username/netbeans.sh to execute it
[12:12] <rrjjnnbb> hello to all
[12:13] <jrib> Ubuntu_user: no, if you are in /home/username/Desktop, you can type ./netbeans.sh ('.' represents the directory you are in).  If you are somewhere else, you can give the full path like you just suggested: /home/username/Desktop/netbeans.sh
[12:13] <NeoCicak> anyone has used unity 2d before?
[12:13] <spacebug-> De|ta: do 'ls -l /var/www' and see that the files have 'r' for everyone
[12:13] <vampire> how can I get acces to var/www/
[12:13] <Ubuntu_user> jrib:  thanks i try it and tell you result
[12:14] <De|ta> drwx------ 17
[12:14] <De|ta> that'll be a no then!
[12:15] <De|ta> chmod a+r file ?
[12:15] <spacebug-> well that seems to be a directory also
[12:15] <vampire> I always get /etc/apt/sources.list: Toegang geweigerd
[12:15] <spacebug-> have you copied a subdir in there?
[12:15] <De|ta> yes, it is a directory that i'm trying to access
[12:15] <jrib> vampire: now run the command with "LANG=C" so we can understand it
[12:16] <dibs> Incarus6: Nope, hmm, is it possible to upgrade from mav? what could have I done to make it so impossible?
[12:16] <redhat> haha
[12:16] <redhat> is anyone here ?
[12:16] <spacebug-> De|ta: ah ok then do a 'chmod 755 dirname'
[12:16] <redhat> so many people aha
[12:17] <Ubuntu_user> jrib:  it requires  jdk 6, can iget it directly installable
[12:17] <vampire> I always get Permission denied
[12:17] <redhat> who want talk to me?
[12:17] <Akashaa> hi!, I've created a bootable usb drive with usb-creator-gtk that can be booted well, but at install it still searches for cd-rom, and can't find any. The try-usb option did not help.
[12:17] <redhat> dididada
[12:17] <botcity> !ot | redhat
[12:18] <De|ta> that's done it spacebug-, thanks
[12:18] <redhat> sorry
[12:18] <De|ta> (now to work out why jiznora is throwing php errors :| )
[12:19] <spacebug-> hehe
[12:19] <Rehan> is there a way to use the nouvea drivers for grub2 and plymouth?
[12:19] <UserX7> hi ubuntu 11.04 -- how to check what graphics driver i am using? Additional Drivers program shows i am not using proprietary yet Unity is working fine, which the program claims it won't.
[12:20] <De|ta> spacebug-: using those permissiosn I'm now getting permission denied errors in error.log when php is trying to open streams, but 755 should be ok for scripts shouldn't it ??
[12:21] <Gangrel> anyone knows how to flip sidebar on 11.04 and put it down side
[12:21] <Sidewinder1> UserX7, I'm a firm believer in the old adage, if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
[12:21] <De|ta> I can open the dir, and apache doesn't return a 403 anymore when loading the index - but the script doesn't seem to execute properly
[12:21] <spacebug-> De|ta: for files you would probably want 644 as file permission
[12:21] <UserX7> Sidewinder1: I just want to tell someone what graphics drivers i'm using, that's all
[12:22] <De|ta> ok, can chmod be used with a mask to do set the permissions of all files in a directory?
[12:22] <Sidewinder1> UserX7, Not sure exactly how to do that if it's not found under Hardware Drivers.
[12:23] <botcity> UserX7, unity can work without additional drivers but if you require wiz bang graphics and such i would enable them.
[12:23] <Phalanx1234> Hey guys
[12:23] <Phalanx1234> Can someone help me with an issue,
[12:23] <Sidewinder1> !ask
[12:23] <Phalanx1234> Google has failed me....
[12:23] <UserX7> botcity: any chance I'm using the nouveau drivers? lspci doesn't say
[12:23] <Phalanx1234> Haha ok, =P
[12:24] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: where is the Hardware Drivers section?
[12:24] <Soothsayer> Can I change the mac address ?
[12:24] <Ubuntu_user> Hi guys I am using 11.04 64 bit version, and want to install jdk 6, which command should i install
[12:24] <Soothsayer> Can I change the mac address of a network card?
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> Getting a booting issue,
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> tried running fsck and I get this
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[12:24] <botcity> UserX7, if you have not enabled them then chances are you are not using them
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> fsck from util-linux-ng 2.17.2
[12:24] <frag4now> hi all. I get an old ubuntu(10.04), I performed apt-get update, but into update manager there isn't the button to upgrade to new ubuntu version. How can I start upgrade to newest ubuntu release?
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> e2fsck 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
[12:24] <FloodBot1> Phalanx1234: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:24] <Phalanx1234> fsck.ext4: Device or resource busy while trying to open /dev/sda1
[12:25] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: Try: System--> Hardware Drivers
[12:26] <UserX7> botcity: ok; so any ideas what the driver is called that i'm using/how to see what's in use?
[12:26] <botcity> Soothsayer, sudo apt-get macchanger. also ifconfig can do it i believe
[12:26] <Phalanx1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/601279/
[12:26] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: thanks, i don't seem to have that menu option on 11.04 64bit
[12:27] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: Ah, OK I'm using Lucid; I usually answer in that vein. Sorry I can't be of more help.
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> Phalanx1234:  you are not trying to fsck a mounted filesystem are you?
[12:27] <Phalanx1234> No,
[12:27] <Rehan> sidewalk: no need to be sorry, appreciate you taking the time to even answer
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Phalanx1234:  you may want to try checking it from a live cd.
[12:28] <Phalanx1234> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo umount /dev/sda1
[12:28] <Phalanx1234> umount: /dev/sda1: not mounted
[12:28] <Phalanx1234> I am using a live CD
[12:28] <Phalanx1234> That's how I'm talking to you =P
[12:28] <Sidewinder1> Rehab: That's why I like LTS; I don't like having to relearn a 'new' system every six months...
[12:28] <Incarus6> dibs, is it working?
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> Phalanx1234:  check output of mount command - be double sure its not mounted..  could be theres some confion in the config files.
[12:29] <dibs> Incarus6: nope, still fails
[12:29] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: But that's just me.
[12:29] <Incarus6> dibs, pls paste the new apt.log
[12:29] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: thanks
[12:30] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: Welks
[12:30] <leyle> hi,i've a problem about the window, if i open two(or more) program ,and the some windows upon the other ,if i want see the under window,i hit the blank aera in the under window,but the above window wouldn't hide ,maybe my english is poor,so i made a pitcutre to show my question,  http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=150973
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> Phalanx1234:  i seem to recall some bug report  about a topic similer to this. but  that was a few days ago.
[12:30] <botcity> UserX7, you could try "system testing "app  from the menu  it goes through hardware testing them will show up anything not working and possible drivers to be installed.
[12:31] <tomatto_> hi
[12:31] <vampire> heb een probleem met mijn irc
[12:31] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601281/ thanks for sticking about man
[12:31] <Phalanx1234> Checked it, it's unmounted
[12:32] <Incarus6> dibs, its 23 o'clock?
[12:32] <Sidewinder1> Nah, vamp., it's workin' fine.
[12:32] <dibs> yep
[12:32] <vampire> I have a problem with irc
[12:32] <dibs> Incarus6: yeah, on sat night, sad huh
[12:32] <tomatto_> i upgraded ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04 and i have situation on both computers, about first, unity won't to be run and about second grub won't to boot system, or just execute yourself. what can i do?
[12:32] <dibs> Incarus6: or is that leet? ;)
[12:33] <frewo64__> !flash10
[12:33] <Incarus6> dibs, leet? ^^
[12:33] <vampire> when I try to connect its say Verbinden mislukt. Fout: Verbinding is geweigerd
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> tomatto_:  be sure you got the proper 3d drvers working on the first one.. as for the second..  tried reinstalling grub from a live cd?
[12:34] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: i have another question -- is there a way i can have File System show up in my Places dropdown menu in top panel?
[12:34] <dibs> Incarus6: sweeet
[12:34] <vampire> when I try to connect its say Connection failed. Error: Connection refused
[12:34] <Incarus6> dibs, ? :D
[12:34] <mikebeecham> hi guys...my windows seem a little jerky when dragging around the desktop...could anyone help me with this
[12:36] <leyle> hi,i've a problem about the window, if i open two(or more) program ,and the some windows upon the other ,if i want see the under window,i hit the blank aera in the under window,but the above window wouldn't hide ,maybe my english is poor,so i made a pitcutre to show my question,  http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=150973
[12:36] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: Not sure how; it shows up in mine, in the left portion of the screen after I click home'
[12:36] <Incarus6> dibs, lets try "sudo apt-get -f install" and "sudo aptitude" look for broken dependencies with aptitude
[12:36] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: yea it shows up in my Home folder's left panel also but not in my Places dropdown from top panel...pretty annoying!
[12:37] <botcity> mikebeecham,  you can ajust windows and other desktop configurations through ccsm
[12:37] <Incarus6> dibs, the second thing: can you remove "libnss3" without removing alot of other packages?
[12:37] <mikebeecham> botcity, in there now...I wondered whether it might be a driver issue
[12:37] <kkal> does the ubuntu installer erase home during the install?
[12:37] <mikebeecham> just jerky windows seems like gfx
[12:37] <raw_recruit> Hey @ ALL! Can anyone (german) can help me solving a problem with MEDIBUNTU? Don't know how to deinstall.... :(
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> kkal:  if you have home on its own partition. you can keep it untouched.
[12:38] <raw_recruit> please PM
[12:38] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: not supposed to... you could, accidentally, erase the partitions on a new install
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> raw_recruit:   Medibuntu is just a repository.  Use the package manager to remove whatever packages you installed from it.
[12:38] <kkal> Dr_Willis: now I will put home on a separate partition
[12:38] <kkal> thanks
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> kkal:  i keep my /home/ on its own hard drive. :)
[12:39] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: is your disk in a single partition or you have /home separated ?
[12:39] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: I'm sure there's a way to do want you want, but after a quick check, I'll be darned if I can see where. :-(
[12:39] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: single partition for ubuntu unfortunately
[12:39] <dios_mio> !totem
[12:40] <kkal> also, unity seems very laggy, especially with launching applications. Is that intended?
[12:40] <botcity> mikebeecham, it may be but it would effect everything i suspect. perhaps some testing!
[12:40] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: that is not a problem, usually... I have a system that has home separated, and another witha single partition... upgrades work on both since 5 versions ago
[12:40] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: just in case, do a backup of your home to an external drive or DVD
[12:40] <cool-RR> Hello!
[12:40] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: play safe, but not mandatory
[12:40] <cool-RR> I've installed 11.04 on VMWare
[12:41] <saju_m> how set 10.10 style back to 11.04
[12:41] <cool-RR> But Unity isn't working
[12:41] <Kevin147> yeah I recommend backing it up :P
[12:41] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: right! thanks
[12:41] <cool-RR> What can I do?
[12:41] <Kevin147> I tried that before and lost everything :/
[12:41] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: Why do you need to access the File System so often?
[12:41] <PresuntoRJ> cool-RR: unity never works on VMWare by design
[12:41] <LjL> cool-RR: i don't think Unity can work in virtual machines, because of lack of 3D support (although VMWare possibly has some?)
[12:41] <PresuntoRJ> cool-RR: only on full blown systems
[12:41] <jeija> cool-RR: it works in the latest virtualbox version i think
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> saju_m:  clarify what you mean. You can select classic (old style) desktop or unity.(ubuntu) at the GDM login screen
[12:41] <cool-RR> LjL: VMWare does have some and I enabled it
[12:41] <PresuntoRJ> cool-RR: I believe i has something to do with the video drivers inside VMWare
[12:41] <Rehan> Sidewinder1: not sure haha, i just end up having to go in there quite a bit. All my media is on a different partition which is mounted, and then for some stuff i have to go into file system
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> You can always enable the unity-2d for virtual machines.
[12:41] <cool-RR> jeija: I guess I'll try VirtualBox
[12:42] <jeija> cool-RR: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/heads-up-unity-working-with-the-lastest-virtualbox/
[12:42] <LjL> cool-RR: well, i don't know, but it might not be enough. last time i tried Unity, my FX5200 card wasn't enough to support it
[12:42] <kkal> another question: launching firefox takes about 2-3 seconds. Is that normal?
[12:42] <PresuntoRJ> Dr_Willis: but its not really the same
[12:42] <saju_m> have any way to set ubuntu 10.10 theme(GUI) in 11.04
[12:42] <kkal> this is with unity
[12:42] <melike> ne diyonuz ya
[12:42] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: to what? to open a site? or to open firefox ?
[12:42] <LjL> kkal: 2-3 seconds doesn't seem like a lot...
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> PresuntoRJ:  never noticed.
[12:42] <saju_m> 11.04 UI is very confusing
[12:42] <kkal> to open firefox
[12:42] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: its pretty fast actually
[12:42] <cool-RR> I'll look into these options
[12:42] <cool-RR> Thanks everyone for your help!
[12:42] <melike> hi
[12:42] <cool-RR> Goodbye
[12:42] <Incarus6> dibs, pls paste: "apt-cache policy libeet1 libnss3-1d libnm-util1 chromium-browser librpmio1 xulrunner-1.9.2 chromium-browser-l10n gnome-pilot enna gnome-pilot-conduits  openshot"
[12:42] <saju_m> i need 11.04 with 10.10 theme
[12:43] <Incarus6> !classic | saju_m
[12:43] <kkal> the icon blinks for 2-3 seconds. and then it runs reasonably fast. I did a 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 upgrade. I suspect I need to do a fresh install
[12:43] <Sidewinder1> Rehan: OK, I have looked around quite extensively, in file system, but I don't need to that often.
[12:43] <tomatto_> Dr_Willis: on first i have upgraded system, so drivers are ok i hope. desktop is shown, but unity is not shown. top and side menu is not shown
 how do that ?
[12:44] <Kevin147> kkal: It takes me the same time and I have a quad-core. So its normal
[12:44] <kkal> PresuntoRJ:the icon blinks for 2-3 seconds. and then it runs reasonably fast. I did a 10.04 -> 10.10 -> 11.04 upgrade. I suspect I need to do a fresh install
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> saju_m:  on the LOGIN screen theres a menu at the bottom after you enter your user name
[12:44] <ray`> hello, im trying to recover grub 2 after the 11.04 update because it only shows windows 7 and memtest86, ive tried several howto's but no success, anyone knows how to recover it?
[12:44] <saju_m> ok
[12:44] <jeija> ray: you could user the super grub disk
[12:45] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: hum... not sure how it could get better... do you have a SDD disk instead of HDD? unless some special setup like this, 2 to 3 seconds is quite ok... has it degraded a lot since 10.10 ?
[12:45] <Incarus6> dibs, libnss3 seems to be the cause of most of these errors, woulb be easier without it. did it work?
[12:45] <ray`> thanks jeija i will try
[12:46] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: its bearable I agree. Its not as fast as 10.04 though.
[12:46] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: if this is expected, I can avoid a clean install. Thanks
[12:46] <Al-Bawi> is there a problem with the server for upgrading ?
[12:47] <preyas_> hey any1 know how to change themes in gnome 3 in ubuntu
[12:47] <preyas_> i installed ubunut
[12:47] <Kevin147> preyas_: In Appearance
[12:47] <jeija> you could use gnome tweak
[12:47] <Incarus6> Al-Bawi, if it's not reachable try a mirror
[12:47] <Incarus6> !mirror | Al-Bawi
[12:47] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601293/ If I remove that lib you menitoned I lose about 1gb of apps. So I didn't
[12:47] <Akashaa> hi!, I've created a bootable usb drive with usb-creator-gtk that can be booted well, but at install it still searches for cd-rom, and can't find any. The try-usb option did not help.
[12:47] <jeija> there aren't many options for gnome 3
[12:48] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: there is an option in compiz setting for unity, that control the icon animation when you start an application... you could try to change to something else, like nothing, and check if it gets any faster.... besides that, the time it takes to load seemes like the times it takes to load.. not sure if it could get much better
[12:48] <preyas_> Kevin147, hey kevin appearance menu is disabled in gnome 3
[12:48] <tomatto_> fucking ubuntu!
[12:48] <dibs> Incarus6: Does this mean I really have to uninstall all those apps?
[12:48] <Kevin147> !language | tomatto_
[12:48] <preyas_> Kevin147, its not available after i install gnome 3
[12:48] <jeija> preyas: have a look at this: http://blog.fpmurphy.com/2011/03/customizing-the-gnome-3-shell.html
[12:48] <bazhang> tomatto_, no cursing
[12:49] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: yeah. Im looking for configs which used to be in obvious places with gnome, unity is completely different
[12:49] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: I hate it too ;)
[12:49] <preyas_> hey i want suggestion for ubuntu not for fedora
[12:49] <DirtyDawg> tomatto_: try something like Ubuntu! i smaite thee sir, and a curse upon your camels...
[12:49] <Dr_Willis> bI would think most unity settings are in gconf, or where compiz keepos theirs..
[12:50] <Incarus6> dibs, "libeet1" is outdated, could you update? and pls paste the output of which package will be removed, if you would remove that libnss3
[12:50] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: try clicking in the poweroff button, there should be a System Settings option there... much like a control panel
[12:50] <preyas_> jeija, hey i want suggestion for ubuntu not for fedora
[12:50] <Incarus6> !nss
[12:50] <jeija> most parts should also work for ubuntu
[12:50] <jeija> especially the gnome3 tweak section
[12:50] <Rehan> is there a way to have your status in ubuntu set to "busy" automatically on login? or is there some script i could write to do that? thank you
[12:50] <kkal> PresuntoRJ: got it! thanks!
[12:50] <preyas_> jeija, i have ubuntu tweak tool
[12:51] <preyas_> but its have some themes
[12:51] <poipoi> Hi!
[12:51] <preyas_> how can i add there more themes
[12:51] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: I am getting  used to it, but still hate it ... :-p
[12:51] <poipoi> Im downloading ubuntu for usen on my grandmothers computer
[12:51] <jeija> preyas, do you mean ubuntu tweak or gnome 3 tweak?
[12:52] <preyas_> i have both
[12:52] <tomatto_> can i downgrade ubuntu from 11.04 back to 10.10 ?
[12:52] <preyas_> jeija, i have both
[12:52] <M0TRN> tomatto_, no
[12:52] <tomatto_> great
[12:52] <poipoi> @tomatto I don't think so
[12:52] <M0TRN> but you can disable Unity and get hte menus back to their normal place tomatto_
[12:52] <preyas_> jeija, i was able to change the theme through gnome tweak tool
[12:52] <bazhang> tomatto_, full reinstall
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> But you can reinstall 10.10
[12:52] <preyas_> jeija, so i downloaded it
[12:52] <Sidewinder1> Beat me.
[12:52] <bazhang> tomatto_, you have a seperate home partition? want to create one?
[12:52] <bazhang> !home | tomatto_
[12:52] <loseweight> how to save changes to a file using vi editor
[12:53] <PresuntoRJ> kkal: also in the compiz settings, you can prevent the autohide, change transparencies, etc... not sure how to change the workspaces (Super+S), and a few other lame restrictions
[12:53] <Incarus6> dibs, no, don't remove these, just give me the output
[12:53] <M0TRN> loseweight, Escape, :, x, return
[12:53] <poipoi> Used to have Me but failed experiment :(
[12:53] <poipoi> Old Ubuntu disk broken
[12:53] <tomatto_> bazhang: no i haven't separate home partition
[12:53] <loseweight> it keeps making a .swap file
[12:53] <loseweight> why?
[12:54] <bazhang> tomatto_, check that link on how to create one if you so desire
[12:54] <loseweight> and none of those commands work Sir
[12:54] <loseweight> x
[12:54] <loseweight> ;
[12:54] <loseweight> escape
[12:54] <FloodBot1> loseweight: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:54] <tomatto_> bazhang: if it is only one option
[12:55] <jrib> loseweight: if you don't want to use vi, use nano
[12:55] <loseweight> i have no choice now
[12:55] <loseweight> im inside the document
[12:55] <loseweight> how to exit and save
[12:55] <jrib> loseweight: ESCAPE:wq   in the future use nano
[12:55] <tomatto_> bazhang: i am desperate
[12:55] <Al-Bawi> can i upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 by using the CD , because i dont want to erase my current documents and games in 10.10
[12:55] <loseweight> none of them work
[12:55] <jrib> loseweight: yes, it does.
[12:55] <loseweight> im still inside the vi editor
[12:56] <loseweight> it doesn't
[12:56] <jrib> loseweight: press escape, then colon, then w, then q, then enter.
[12:56] <loseweight> at the same time?
[12:56] <jrib> loseweight: no?
[12:56] <Glycan> Why doesn't banshee work? At all. It just says banshhe mdeia player starting, and then it doesn't do anything!
[12:56] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: sequentially
[12:56] <loseweight> ok i did them all
[12:56] <loseweight> im still in vi editor
[12:56] <jrib> loseweight: then I recommend you start over in nano
[12:56] <tomatto_> is not possible to reinstall ubuntu with no user data remove? when i don't have separate partition of home
[12:56] <loseweight> but i need to get out
[12:56] <tomatto_> ?
[12:57] <loseweight> pleaseeeeeeeeeeeeee help me
[12:57] <jrib> loseweight: close the terminal
[12:57] <DirtyDawg> lol
[12:57] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: do you see the cursor blinking ? is in the the text somewhere or in the footer (like a status bar) of vi ?
[12:57] <loseweight> its not blinking
[12:57] <loseweight> does it matter that im using centos
[12:57] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: vi is vi everywhere
[12:57] <dibs> Incarus6: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601296/ should I hit yes or no?
[12:57] <Incarus6> !centos | loseweight
[12:58] <SargonRose> Does anyone here use autohotkey?
[12:58] <jrib> !anyone | SargonRose
[12:58] <Incarus6> ubottu -.-
[12:58] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: then press ESC some three times (just in case)
[12:58] <loseweight> crtl zz always creates a swap file
[12:58] <loseweight> should i just use that
[12:58] <PresuntoRJ> then, press only : once
[12:58] <PresuntoRJ> then write ZZ (twice, captial letters)
[12:58] <loseweight> : makes the cursor go to bottom
[12:59] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: just right... and the ZZ or wq or qhatever you type will be a command to vi
[12:59] <loseweight> after: ?
[12:59] <gidorah_> hello, i have problems with installing opencv on ubuntu. here is the terminal output of make command: http://codepad.org/B9ijN98y . could anyone please help me?
[12:59] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: ZZ = wq = Write and Quit
[12:59] <PresuntoRJ> yes, just after the :
[12:59] <SargonRose> run %Riot Games%\league of legends\lol.launcher This isnt working. I know it has something to do with the sace but im really new so i have no idea
[12:59] <Incarus6> dibs, Im confused. Hit No. that package doesn't even exist in the official repos: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=libnss3
[12:59] <loseweight> its not workinggggggggggg
[12:59] <Incarus6> dibs, for maverick
[12:59] <PresuntoRJ> it would look like this   :wq      or :ZZ
[12:59] <loseweight> omg some1 help me please!!!!!!!!!!!!
[13:00] <jrib> loseweight: close your terminal and do what you want to do in nano.
[13:00] <bazhang> !helpme | loseweight
[13:00] <GoGi> the xubuntu 10.10 cd does not detect my mouse when running under kvm. I get a cursor but it does not move.
[13:00] <zertyui> hi
[13:00] <ruum> hey guys are any of you having trouble with the new distro?
[13:00] <loseweight> closing the terminal is not a good idea as
[13:00] <dibs> Incarus6: ok, now I'm confused
[13:00] <loseweight> then i lose all my edits
[13:00] <ruum> with basic stuff....
[13:00] <jrib> loseweight: make them again
[13:00] <ruum> like getting the main menus back....
[13:00] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: if you close without save, yes, you lose
[13:00] <dibs> I don't mind if I have to drop some apps and reinstall. I just need to make sure I get to a stable state for work
[13:01] <zertyui> is it possible reverse download ( upload ) on a site where the server is ubuntu and they allow us to download ?
[13:01] <Incarus6> dibs, that package shoudln't have any dependencies, it could be that this happens because the other packages arent from the official repo too
[13:01] <Osmodivs> Hello. How do I download an ISO with wget? because everytime I try to do that, it only downloads the webpage, not the file
[13:01] <tobier> ruum: the new DE seems bugged to me, otherwise no problems so far
[13:01] <zertyui> is it possible reverse download ( upload ) on a site where the server is ubuntu and they allow us to download ? where the folder chmod is 777
[13:01] <jrib> zertyui: depends if they allow you to upload presumably
[13:01] <dibs> Incarus6: thats why I not worried if I have to drop them, you reckon I should just drop the GB and pick it up on the other side?
[13:01] <loseweight> nano is better than vi?
[13:01] <ruum> and well how do you unmaximize a window - make go back to resizable
[13:01] <jrib> Osmodivs: pass the url of the iso to wget
[13:01] <DirtyDawg> loseweight: it is easier
[13:01] <jrib> loseweight: it's different
[13:01] <PresuntoRJ> Osmodivs: try the link from cdimage.ubuntu.com ... there should be the actual iso there to download, and should work from wget
[13:02] <zertyui> i still don't not understand what you mean  jrib
[13:02] <Incarus6> dibs, hm, what?
[13:02] <tomatto_> how can i reinstall grub from livecd?
[13:02] <jrib> loseweight: if you don't know how to use vi, I'd say nano is better
[13:02] <zertyui> what i have to check ? jrib
[13:02] <tobier> ruum: isn't maximized windows a feature now?
[13:02] <bazhang> !grub2 | tomatto_ have a read
[13:02] <jrib> zertyui: depends on how the server is configured
[13:02] <ruum> and in firefox, the main menu seems to be hidden forever - unless I use alt
[13:02] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: when you learn to use vi (vim) you then tend to use it, cause its great
[13:02] <SargonRose> Basic line of code not working, can someone take a look at it and tell me whats wrong. Its only one line of code
[13:02] <ruum> sorta
[13:02] <tobier> ruum: I'm not using the new DE, but I think I remember that
[13:02] <zertyui> the folder chmod is 777 jrib
[13:02] <jrib> SargonRose: best to just ask the channel your actual question (on a single line)
[13:03] <PresuntoRJ> loseweight: but its really not easy the first time you try it...
[13:03] <tobier> ruum: yes, I think that is a feature, more Mac OS X-ish
[13:03] <gidorah_> hello, i have problems with installing opencv on ubuntu. here is the terminal output of make command: http://codepad.org/B9ijN98y . could anyone please help me?
[13:03] <jrib> zertyui: ok?
[13:03] <ruum> well who is lol
[13:03] <ruum> ye[
[13:03] <SargonRose> Was trying, i had had the code copy'ed but lost it somewhere
[13:03] <zertyui> the folder chmod is 777 jrib anyone read write and execute jrib
[13:03] <tobier> ruum: you can still use Ubuntu Classic
[13:03] <tobier> ruum: AFAIK that is Gnome
[13:03] <jrib> zertyui: yes, so?
[13:03] <SargonRose> run %Riot Games%\league of legends\lol.launcher
[13:03] <zertyui> so it should be possible for me jrib
[13:03] <jrib> zertyui: what kind of server is it...?
[13:04] <SargonRose> I know it something to do with the space
[13:04] <zertyui> what do you think jrib
[13:04] <Incarus6> dibs, I wouldn't remove thoose packages
[13:04] <zertyui> ubuntu lucid 10.04 jrib
[13:04] <poipoi> Can ubuntu run on a pc with 64 mb of ram and a 600 mhz celeron processor?
[13:04] <jrib> zertyui: ftp, ssh, etc
[13:04] <bazhang> poipoi, not the desktop, no
[13:04] <jrib> poipoi: no gui, but sure
[13:04] <Osmodivs> (gtk-update-icon-cache:5519): GdkPixbuf-WARNING **: Cannot open pixbuf loader module file '/usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache': No such file or directory
[13:04] <poipoi> What do you mean?
[13:04] <zertyui> without creating an user is it possible to upload ? jrib
[13:04] <Osmodivs> What?!
[13:04] <iceroot> poipoi: with some luck, lubuntu will run but more ram is a good idea
[13:04] <Incarus6> Osmodivs, ignore that error
[13:05] <jrib> poipoi: no graphical user interface
[13:05] <ruum> I think I will.... cuz I suddenly cant make windows re-sizable again, and firefox's main menu are hidden forever unless I use tab
[13:05] <jrib> zertyui: you're not answering my questions, how can I answer yours...
[13:05] <Osmodivs> Incarus6, Ok :)
[13:05] <iceroot> poipoi: i am running ubuntu on 630mhz + 512mb ram (eeepc 701)
[13:05] <tobier> ruum: well then, use GNOME if you like it better
[13:05] <zertyui> what is your questioN ? jrib
[13:05] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: I tend to ignore many errors :D
[13:05] <poipoi> Ok? Damnit!
[13:05] <jrib> zertyui: what kind of server is it...?
[13:05] <poipoi> How much?
[13:05] <poipoi> For regular?
[13:05] <Incarus6> Osmodovis, it will be shown a lot of times, but you can ignore it. that doesn't say anything
[13:05] <PresuntoRJ> Incarus6: unlesss they bite me
[13:05] <zertyui> ubuntu lucid i said jrib
[13:05] <tobier> ruum: my prefered wm is the Awesome Window Manager
[13:05] <dibs> Incarus6: what a nigtmare
[13:05] <jrib> zertyui: ftp, ssh, etc
[13:05] <DirtyDawg> iceroot: with a Gui? if so which one
[13:05] <ruum> once maximized, there is no undoing it without closing and reopening the window
[13:05] <zertyui> web server jrib
[13:06] <iceroot> DirtyDawg: gnome
[13:06] <PresuntoRJ> ruum: in Unity ?
[13:06] <jrib> zertyui: then no, you probably can't upload...
[13:06] <DirtyDawg> wow
[13:06] <ruum> I almost want to go back to v.10.x
[13:06] <Osmodivs> It's been hours since i updated and still is not finished, I have 2500+ packages to upgrade
[13:06] <Incarus6> dibs, dude, I have no Idea how to fix that. its because you used this unofficial mirror
[13:06] <ruum> this is a NIGHTMARE
[13:07] <PresuntoRJ> ruum: I hate it too... let me try to help... can you see the X in the left corner of the maximized window ?
[13:07] <iceroot> DirtyDawg: its the gnome from ubuntu 8.04, its running ok with 512mb ram and 630mhz, its possible to work with that machine (if not using fash/youtube)
[13:07] <zertyui> ok let come the point, then how site like mangaupload etc ... allow anonym  users to upload files on folders ?
[13:07] <DirtyDawg> iceroot: interesting
[13:07] <SargonRose> Code not working run "%A_Riot Games%\league of legends\lol.launcher" No idea why exept for the space between riot and games is the problem, just dont know why or how to fix it
[13:07] <jrib> zertyui: you can certainly write scripts that allow users to upload
[13:08] <tobier> ruum: just don't use the new desktop!!
[13:08] <PresuntoRJ> ruum: you could try to login to the ubuntu classic option
[13:08] <tobier> ruum: I've said it, pick Ubuntu Classic when you log in, it's just like back in 10.x
[13:08] <dibs> a mirror at a university here in NZ? surely that would be ok
[13:08] <Curly_Q> Hey guys I installed X11VNC and it worked and doesn't work. It has a mind of its own It has error warnings that seem quite stupid any suggestions besides using FreeNX?
[13:08] <zertyui> that's what i can't understand ? how php script able to upload without creating an username and password authentificatioN jrib
[13:09] <samtate> hi
[13:09] <jrib> zertyui: you can ask ##php for help creating such a script
[13:09] <poipoi> Can you run regular ubuntu on on 200 mb of ram?
[13:09] <dibs> Incarus6:   a mirror at a university here in NZ? surely that would be ok
[13:09] <jrib> poipoi: no
[13:09] <poipoi> Might be more
[13:09] <Incarus6> dibs, sure? they miss a lot of packages and some packages differ from the original
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  if you can handle  not shareing the current visible desktop. theres dozens of vnc servers out there.
[13:09] <Curly_Q> It also has an error warning to disable the error warnning. How stupid is that?
[13:10] <PresuntoRJ> poipoi: almost not... but I have managed to run with 256 from the alternate Cd a few versions back (9.10 if I recall right)
[13:10] <aj00200> poipoi: surely you have more ram than that unless this is an extremely old computer
[13:10] <Osmodivs> popoi, run damn small linux instead
[13:10] <zertyui> ok thanks jrib
[13:10] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis, I don't mind experimenting with anything that is worth while.
[13:10] <DirtyDawg> or puppy linux
[13:11] <PresuntoRJ> poipoi: then I recomend lubuntu intead of ubuntu (but I think its a package now a days)... you could try to install without GUI and then get via apt the lubuntu-desktop package
[13:11] <PresuntoRJ> poipoi: its still usable
[13:11] <sl33k_> any suggestion which to use virtualbox or vmware?
[13:11] <sl33k_> for ubuntu
[13:11] <poipoi> Can you run ubunt 8 on 200 mb of ram?
[13:11] <aj00200> sl33k_: personally, I like qemu
[13:11] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: Ubuntu as host or guest ?
[13:11] <Incarus6> dibs, try "dpkg --configure -a" and paste output
[13:11] <poipoi> Host
[13:11] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  i normally only use the more normal vnc servers. Ones that dont share the current visible desktop. such as tightvnc, or vnc4server, i think theres otheres out there also. Theres also FreeNX that serves a similer purpose.
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> poipoi:  i bet it would be dog slow.
[13:12] <sl33k_> PresunotoRJ: i am new to this :) what is the difference between them?
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  it all depoends on how you are going to be using the remote desktop
[13:12] <PW-toXic> Hi,
[13:12] <PW-toXic> I cant find my xorg.conf file
[13:12] <ruum> exit
[13:12] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: virtualbox works really good, sometimes I cannot compile vmware (vmmon-only), and qemu is a mess with bridge to get to the machine, but if you are only use outbound from it, qemu is really simple to use
[13:13] <Dr_Willis> PW-toXic:  X auto configures for the most part. make a xorg.conf if you want one
[13:13] <dibs> Incarus6: it doesn't output?
[13:13] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: the guest is the machine running inside a VM, the host is the machine executing the VM it self
[13:13] <bruzer> Hey, I recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.  Any help would be great
[13:13] <Incarus6> dibs, thats a good sign
[13:14] <PW-toXic> Dr_Willis, i run on virtualbox and i cant select a higher resolution
[13:14] <dibs> Incarus6: phew
[13:14] <PW-toXic> I have 11.04 newly installed
[13:14] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I have tried TightVNC in fact it was the first VNC device I used. It seems good, but with Windows it started to talk to some internet servers I never programmed it for.
[13:14] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: then, as a guest. host would be windows
[13:14] <loseweight> please help
[13:14] <loseweight> http://pastebin.com/W8UnQSfr
[13:14] <phonex01> How can i change folders and files properties of FAT23 and NTFS files through ubunt ? like changed hidden to un-hidden ?
[13:14] <matsimon> PW-toXic: No xorg.conf is created in recent ubuntu, its used if there is one otherweise not existing
[13:15] <bruzer> ?
[13:15] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: you want to run Ubuntu as a desktop (with GUI) or as a server (sharing files, web, ssh, ...)?
[13:15] <Curly_Q> With a good Windows Net Monitor you can see what software is talking to who.
[13:15] <CantRushThis> hey - I've got a minor issue with my 11.04 installation: The default battery charge indicator is not displaying remaining charge time on my Compaq Presario CQ56
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  you will want to block the vnc ports via a firewall or router. in case anyone tries to scan you and get in
[13:15] <loseweight> http://pastebin.com/W8UnQSfr
[13:15] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: any tradeoff for running on virtualbox/qemu?
[13:15] <Incarus6> dibs, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601281/ lines 1149, 1150, 1151, 1164, 1165, 1166, 1167, 1182, 1183, 1184 and 1193 seems to cause your main problem. I think this are these packages, which prevent your system from beeing updated, because it couldn't resolv the dependencies of that packages
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> PW-toXic:  you need to get the Vbox guest addations installed I imagine.
[13:15] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: desktop
[13:15] <PW-toXic> Dr_Willis, yeah i guess i need this ;) just installing
[13:15] <CantRushThis> I remember reading somewhere that it's an issue with the 10.10 / 11.04 battery management system and that it should work with 10.04
[13:16] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I block anything that is suspect.
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  vnc is not safe to use over the wild and dirty internet.
[13:16] <bruzer> Hey, I recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.  Any help would be great
[13:16] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  if you have to use it over the internet. use ssh tunels.
[13:16] <phonex01> How can i change folders and files properties of FAT23 and NTFS files through ubunt ? like changed hidden to un-hidden ?
[13:16] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: to run a server, inside Windows, I would run in the vmware server, cause it does not need to open any window, and its also free... for the GUI, the vmware player is OK, but I usued to prefer VirtualBox (when it was Sun, not Oracle)
[13:16] <aj00200> colalindu: I think you will need to run that as a root user (sudo python26 setup.py build)
[13:16] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis, I was using SSH with Secure VNC with X11vnc.
[13:16] <ThisNameisCool> please help
[13:16] <ThisNameisCool> http://pastebin.com/W8UnQSfr
[13:16] <linux_> 6.04 server
[13:17] <bazhang> linux_, no such version
[13:17] <aj00200> ThisNameisCool: I think you will need to run that as a root user (sudo python26 setup.py build)
[13:17] <matsimon> ThisNameisCool: Why would you want to install python from source?
[13:17] <linux_> is python 2.6
[13:17] <ThisNameisCool> i need 2.6
[13:17] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis when I installed the Ubuntu Repositories and stuff like that it stopped working.
[13:17] <Incarus6> ThisNameisCool, isn't python 2.7 default in 11.04?
[13:17] <aj00200> matsimon: no, he is installing a python module, I think
[13:17] <matsimon> aj00200: oh, sorry, catched that
[13:17] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: is qemu reliable? also, could you provide some installation info/link?
[13:17] <ThisNameisCool> twisted is the name
[13:18] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: do you need them (Windows and Ubuntu) together at the same time? if not, there is also Wubi (an instalation inside windows, almost like a program, but boots to Windows or Ubuntu)
[13:18] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: pretty much, but its a mess to network to the machine inside qemu... I am not sure if there is qemu for windows
[13:18] <ruum> ok, I dont know who told me to reboot as ubuntu classic BUT THANK YOU VERY MUCH
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  freenx works much better over the internet, and is mor esecure.. but harder to setup.
[13:19] <cool-RR> Hello again
[13:19] <nabi> I get this "Grub loading, please wait... Error 15" now what I want to do ?
[13:19] <PresuntoRJ> ruum: :)
[13:19] <cool-RR> There's something I don't understand how to do in Unity
[13:19] <ruum> WHEW.... what a relief!!  I have all my main menus bacn and EVERYTHING
[13:19] <cool-RR> I press Super
[13:19] <ThisNameisCool> how cna i fix it?
[13:19] <ThisNameisCool> EVERY MODULE HAS THIS ERROR
[13:19] <bruzer> Can I assume mine is a unique problem for which you have no answer?
[13:19] <cool-RR> Start typing the app name, like "ter"
[13:19] <Sidewinder1> !patience > ThisNameisCool
[13:19] <Soothsayer> I have an executable called 'foo' at say '/opt/cyberoam/crclient/'
[13:19] <cool-RR> But how can I use the keyboard to browse through the different apps?
[13:19] <santhu1984> hi
[13:19] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: yea, same time i presume. i have used wubi, however did not like it as the boot used to break often
[13:20] <Soothsayer> so I can navigate to that path in the terminal and type ./foo and execute it.
[13:20] <aj00200> ThisNameisCool: are you using 11.04?
[13:20] <ThisNameisCool> negative
[13:20] <Soothsayer> But how do I execute that from some other path?
[13:20] <jaidotsh> nopes
[13:20] <ThisNameisCool> im using centos
[13:20] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I apt-getted the FreeNX but got frustrated with the operation.
[13:20] <ruum> they REALLY need to get on this new UI version and allow users to have their main menus somewhere....
[13:20] <jrib> Soothsayer: /opt/cyberoam/crclient/foo
[13:20] <santhu1984> i ve upgraded ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04
[13:20] <bazhang> ThisNameisCool, #centos
[13:20] <santhu1984> and upgrading failed in between
[13:20] <ThisNameisCool> i can't go there
[13:20] <santhu1984> can any one help me
[13:20] <bazhang> ThisNameisCool, that does not make this their backup channel
[13:20] <aj00200> ThisNameisCool: did you try putting sudo in front of the command like I suggested?
[13:20] <Soothsayer> jrib, ./crclient: You can run the executable with name `crclient' only.
[13:21] <Curly_Q> If FreeNX works I will use it.
[13:21] <Incarus6> santhu1984, pls ask in one line and pls paste /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log
[13:21] <ThisNameisCool> aj i didnt
[13:21] <ruum> not being able to resize and manage your windows is HORRIBLE!!!  But you guys are AWESOME, I would DIE if  I could have my ubuntu classic...
[13:21] <bazhang> aj00200, hes not using ubuntu
[13:21] <ThisNameisCool> i didnt see your suggestion
[13:21] <Soothsayer> jrib, in my case foo = crclient (the executable is the same name as the directory holdign it)
[13:21] <aj00200> bazhang: ah
[13:21] <ThisNameisCool> what does sudo do
[13:21] <bazhang> ThisNameisCool, stop asking for centos help here
[13:21] <ruum> *couldnt
[13:21] <ThisNameisCool> they are both linux ok
[13:21] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: just found this, not sure how up-to-date is the information... http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Using_QEMU_on_Windows
[13:21] <cool-RR> Guys, how can I use the keyboard to move between app symbols in Unity?
[13:21] <bazhang> ThisNameisCool, ##linux NOT here
[13:22] <sl33k_> PresuntoRJ: any other like qemu. and which ubuntu installer to download. could you provide the downloader link and doumentation ?
[13:22] <ruum> ThisNameisCool.... I am sure there is a centos channel
[13:22] <jaidotsh> helo
[13:22] <ruum> you should go to that....
[13:22] <aj00200> ThisNameisCool: sorry, but CentOS is totaly different in some regards, particularly Python matters. I don't know much about it on CentOS.
[13:22] <Acriax> http://imgur.com/P47aa <-- does anyone know why it revert to this old-style theme after about 10 seconds? This screen was taking in Unity on a Virtualbox VM, but the same thing happens no matter if I use classic ubuntu or vmware instead.
[13:22] <memefilter> hi folks, is the reason the 32bit version of 11 recommended because the 64 is not quite stable?
[13:22] <santhu1984> i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:22] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I did a  sudo apt-get upgrade and    sudo apt-get upgrade    and     sudo apt-get aptitude.
[13:22] <bruzer> Hey, I recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.
[13:22] <Incarus6> memefilter, 32bit isn't more stable then 64bit, but I prefer 32 because of its compatibility
[13:23] <Curly_Q> Also sudo apt-get update
[13:23] <ThisNameisCool> linux is universal
[13:23] <bazhang> ThisNameisCool, stop
[13:23] <Cursarion> :o
[13:23] <memefilter> Incarus6: thanks, that's the advice I got elsewhere too
[13:24] <memefilter> 32 it is
[13:24] <memefilter> cheers folks!
[13:24] <ruum> damn guys someone needs to recreate the CentOS channel!!  But still this is for #ubuntu  I would suggest going to the #linux channel for centos help ThisNameisCool.
[13:24] <bruzer> Any help
[13:24] <Cursarion> is it possible to mark a HD partition bootable, put contents of Ubuntu ISO file there and install from it on boot?
[13:24] <PresuntoRJ> sl33k_: again, inside ubuntu, so it runs as host, there is kvm, qemu, and virtualbox_ose ... you can download from vmware.com the player or the server (depending if you need a GUI or not)
[13:24] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis the X11vnc worked just fine when I first installed Ubuntu, after installing the updates and upgrades it failed.
[13:25] <aj00200> ThisNameisCool: each distro has some differences. You would be better off asking in a CentOS channel or a general Linux channel where someone who understands these differences better can help you. #ubuntu is specfically for Ubuntu help.
[13:25] <ThisNameisCool> i can't talk in linux channel
[13:25] <Cursarion> instead of DVD/USB stick
[13:25] <ThisNameisCool> it says i can' chat
[13:25] <Incarus6> Curarion, isn't a persistent Live USB stick easier?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  i dont use x11vnc. so no idea.  I dont use vnc the way x11vnc works.
[13:25] <Glycan> Argh!
[13:25] <jnlsnl_> Hmm i just installed ImageCache module, and under /build/modules there are two entries of "ImageCache", "ImageCache UI", "ImageAPI ImageMagick" and "ImageAPI GD2" with the same version number ... is this intentionally ? :-) just wondering, seems strange
[13:25] <Cursarion> Incarus6: no access to an USB tick
[13:25] <Cursarion> but how do you mean persistent?
[13:25] <bazhang> ruum, theres a #centos channel already
[13:25] <PresuntoRJ> Cursarion: ISO is like a ZIP file that contains the bootable files... so, no... but you can try to install it to an USB dongle (pen-drive)
[13:26] <ruum> oh SWEET!! he should go there then!!!
[13:26] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I am just experimenting and as you very well know when I come here I like to try diffrent things. I will try what is better or what is best.
[13:26] <Cursarion> PresuntoRJ: well, the contents of the ISO file
[13:26] <Dr_Willis> Curly_Q:  it all depends on how you want to use the tool.
[13:26] <Incarus6> Cursarion, persistent means, that any changes are saved on the usb sticks and not overridden when you reboot
[13:26] <Cursarion> PresuntoRJ: 'cause there's no access to an USB dongle
[13:26] <kurtul> anyone installed ubuntu on emachines netbook with 1bm ram?
[13:26] <tyler87> yo
[13:27] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis, as you said it is just a tool.
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> kurtul:  emachines makes a lot of machines...
[13:27] <jnlsnl_> woooops wrong channel, sorry
[13:27] <kim0|vacation> Hi folks, I'm adding a ppa (yavdr) but apt is not picking it up it seems (apt-cache policy vdr) only shows the one from universe .. any ideas why ?
[13:27] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis I use it for lazy  minded people who pay me for my services.
[13:27] <Cursarion> so basically there's the HD to install on and the ISO image, which can be extracted on the HD
[13:27] <Dr_Willis> kurtul:  a 1 gb ram box. should work.
[13:27] <Cursarion> but no USB stick or CD/DVD
[13:27] <Cursarion> can it be done with the HD alone?
[13:27] <santhu1984>  i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:27] <santhu1984>  i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:27] <santhu1984>  i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:27] <pfifo> Cursarion, you can boot from a iso image if you hae grub2 installed, but you need access to linux to install grub2... however the limitations of ubiquity wont allow you to install to the hard drive that the isoimage is on so you would need 2 drives atleast
[13:27] <PresuntoRJ> Cursarion: not to an HD, its trivial to put on a CDR or DVDR, and not that difficult to put in a USB drive... try usb-creator-gtk
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  unetbootin can do some sort of live-install to a hard drive using the iso file. but i dont reccomend it.
[13:28] <bazhang> santhu1984, please dont repeat so quickly
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  you could do that to one partition.. then boot it. and do a normal install to a differnt partition i guess.
[13:28] <Cursarion> PresuntoRJ: the point is there are no physical USB drives available
[13:28] <PresuntoRJ> kurtul: how much memory? 1G ?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  or you could some how set up grub2 to boot the iso file.
[13:28] <ubuntu> Hi
[13:28] <kurtul> PresuntoRJ: yes
[13:29] <ubuntu> To run unity desktop will it require graphic card ?
[13:29] <PresuntoRJ> Cursarion: dont think so
[13:29] <bruzer> Anyone?
[13:29] <kurtul> PresuntoRJ: i think memory should be ok. but would wireless work out of the box?
[13:29] <Cursarion> pfifo, Dr_Willis: grub is installed
[13:29] <ubuntu> Hi Can anyone help on this post ? To run unity desktop will it require graphic card ?
[13:30] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  grub2 can boot an ISO file - if you set it up right.
[13:30] <bazhang> ubuntu, yes
[13:30] <PresuntoRJ> kurtul: and how big is the HD ?
[13:30] <Incarus6> ubuntu, to run the xserver it will require a graphic card, yes.
[13:30] <ForceDestroyer> great... I let ubuntu upgrade, and now bluetooth is nuts. The bluetooth icon says it's enabled, but when I click on preferences, it says it's disabled, and there's a large button "turn bluetooth on" that does nothing. The computer makes some kind of high-pitched noise too. :/
[13:30] <kurtul> PresuntoRJ: 160gb
[13:31] <PresuntoRJ> kurtul: that should be ok then... are you facing any problems?
[13:31] <jaidotsh> helo
[13:31] <sl33k_> is virtualbox and vmware reliable for running 10.04?
[13:31] <PresuntoRJ> bruzer: what?
[13:31] <Sidewinder1> bruzer: Can you get the wireless router any closer to your ;puter? Or perhaps the other way around?
[13:31] <ForceDestroyer> Trouble is, I'm still fairly new to linux/ubuntu/all of this, so the mouse not working is a problem
[13:31] <Curly_Q> Cursarion, even if you boot up into a disk you still need to Low Level Format it. What are you trying to do?
[13:31] <Dr_Willis> sl33k_:  they should work ok.
[13:31] <bruzer> I recently installed ubuntu 10.04 and set everything up for wifi, and I can get it to connect, but it has 0 bars, and won't let me surf the net.1
[13:31] <sl33k_> Dr_Willis: which you prefer?
[13:32] <jaidotsh> can anybody tell me whether broadcom 802.11 is supported in 11.04?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> sl33k_:  i only use vbox.
[13:32] <kurtul> PresuntoRJ: not yet. but it's a friend's computer. i'll wipe windows and put ubuntu. i don't want to be embarrassed if let's say wifi won't work.
[13:32] <bazhang> jaidotsh, yes it is
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> jaidotsh:  differnt chipsets by broadcom have differnt degrees of support and possible issues.
[13:32] <jaidotsh> bazhang thank u
[13:32] <Stereocaulon> I've just upgrade form 10.10 to 11.04 but I got an error stating that the upgrade had failed leaving my machine in a possibly unstable state. Where can I find the upgrade log and should I refrain from restarting my machine?
[13:32] <bruzer> Well, I have it in the room next to me, worked fine when I had ubuntu installed a few months ago
[13:32] <sl33k_> Dr_Willis: could you provide me the installation steps/link?
[13:32] <Dr_Willis> !vbox
[13:32] <Cursarion> Curly_Q: install the OS without a CD/DVD/USB stick
[13:33] <Dr_Willis> sl33k_:  go read the vbox manual at its homepage also
[13:33] <jaidotsh> ok Dr_Willis thanks for the info. gotta try it out
[13:33] <sl33k_> thanks
[13:33] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, /var/log/dist-upgrade/ apt.log and main.log
[13:33] <ThaTJGreeN> hello
[13:33] <Sidewinder1> bruzer: That's a stumper. Did you try rebooting the router?
[13:33] <ForceDestroyer> Is there some way to disable common ACPI power saving features for ethernet and bluetooth?
[13:33] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, thanks for the locations! :-)
[13:33] <bruzer> And I have tried sitting right next to the router
[13:33] <omichalek> hi all, my boot time is terribly slow, after grub I have to wait several minutes with black screen before splash appears
[13:33] <omichalek> what can do?
[13:34] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, where did it stop?
[13:34] <Phalanx1234> Anyone know a fix for the boot fail, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601279/.
[13:34] <Curly_Q> Cursarion, then you would need to be God to do that. How do you expect to install anything without a CD/DVD/USB   Unless it is a HD?
[13:34] <santhu1984> can any one help me how to use itunes in ubuntu
[13:34] <pfifo> !info debootstrap | Curly_Q
[13:34] <Phalanx1234> Curley_Q, Floppy Disk.
[13:34]  * pfifo is god
[13:34] <bazhang> santhu1984, in a vm perhaps with windows
[13:34] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, I'll post a pastebin of my upgradelog to illustrate the stopping point
[13:34] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, can you paste the result of: sudo lshw -C Network
[13:34] <bruzer> hold on
[13:35] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, ty
[13:35] <ThaTJGreeN> santhu1984 try 'play on linux'
[13:35] <tyler87> so, with the new 11.04. how the hell do i go about removing what i guess to be the empathy indicator and email indicator from the toolbar up top? i already removed the email software and empathy
[13:35] <Incarus6> dibs, still not working?
[13:35] <bazhang> ThaTJGreeN, thats wine? that does not work well
[13:35] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  you could also use vbox or vmware and mount a 'real' hard disk partition and isntall to that..
 i am using only ubuntu
[13:36] <bazhang> santhu1984, then try something else other than itunes
[13:36] <Tongpow> anyone know the 411 on getting compiz to work again in 11.4 i uninstalled unity, the visual effects tab is gone from appearance preference
 like what
[13:36] <Curly_Q> I have done the floppy disk install and USB and CD and HD. Cursarion needs to provide enough information to let us know how he will fix his problem.
[13:36] <bazhang> !players > santhu1984
[13:36] <Cursarion> Curly_Q: I have two HDs. One of which has linux installed but when i bought a new pc i couldnt load up linux. Im going to use the old ext3 partition to extract the iso content and boot from it and install a new linux instalation on the other hard drive
[13:36] <Dr_Willis> Tongpow:  install compiz package perhaps? then try install/running ccsm.
[13:36] <ThaTJGreeN> @bazhang thats the only way I know
[13:36] <kim0|vacation> running 64bit Natty, can I force a ppa to install its 32bit packages ?
[13:37] <bruzer> Actually I can't copty paste as I'm on another laptop
[13:37] <gidorah_> hello, i have problems with installing opencv on ubuntu. here is the terminal output of make command: http://codepad.org/B9ijN98y . could anyone please help me?
[13:37] <Dr_Willis> Cursarion:  you could partiton the 2nd hd. to a little partition, use unetbootin - do a live install to the partiton from the iso file. boot that  partiton. then do a normal install to the rest of the HD. perhaps.
[13:37] <bazhang> kim0|vacation, that is an extraordinarily bad idea
[13:37] <Curly_Q> Cursarion now you are letting us know what you are really doing. Having two hard drives is different.
[13:37] <andeeeuk> does anyone know a good way to remove all of gnome3 after you have installed it?
[13:37] <kim0|vacation> bazhang: except when the ppa doesn't offer the packages I need in 64bits
[13:37] <andeeeuk> any help would be great
[13:37] <tyler87> question: how do you edit what indicators show or remove indicators from the panel in the new ubuntu?
[13:37] <pfifo> andeeeuk, you have to reinstall ubuntu
[13:38] <Cursarion> hm, yeah, I didn't mention there's two of them
[13:38] <kim0|vacation> bazhang: 64bit natty, should be able to run 32bit apps too eh?
[13:38] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, just tell me the name of the driver
[13:38] <andeeeuk> reinstall it from iso?
[13:38] <Cursarion> thanks Dr_Willis, Curly_Q & others
[13:38] <mattyh88> hey, i'm trying to install apache2
[13:38] <pfifo> andeeeuk, yes, nothing short of formatting will remove gnome3
[13:38] <andeeeuk> pfifo you mean reinstall from cd?
[13:38] <mattyh88> but not sure if i installed it properly
[13:38] <bazhang> kim0|vacation, no idea. PPA are completely unsupported. what you propose is risk piled on top of risk
[13:38] <ForceDestroyer> When I start a program that should have a GUI, and no window appears... what change to 11.4 might cause this? I started it with a shell script, just ./bin/64/program in there... it's now running but invisible -_-
 i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:39] <mattyh88> i went to the synaptic package manager and checked 'apache' and i think i installed it, but i can't find it at /etc/apache
[13:39] <Curly_Q> Cursarian,  SATA or IDE?
[13:39] <andeeeuk> oh ok thanks, I have been having problems all morning as i installed gnome3. Now I am not able to update or install anything
[13:39] <ubuntu> i can use unity but i am not able to use once install hardware drivers?
[13:39] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601312/
[13:39] <andeeeuk> all dependancy issues have crept in :s
[13:39] <sl33k_> Dr_Willlis: can vbox be used for hardcore computations?
[13:39] <BlouBlou> ubuntu: nvidia ones?
 how to solve that issue?
[13:40] <ubuntu> ATI
[13:40] <omichalek> my boot time is terribly slow, several mintes of black screen after grub before splash appears please help
[13:40] <bruzer> broadcom b43
[13:40] <andeeeuk> really quite shocking i would not recomend anyone install gnome3
[13:40] <sl33k_> Dr_Willis:  can vbox be used for hardcore computations?
[13:40] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, "Vereisten" = "Dependencies"
[13:40] <dr0id> how do you empty a file from the terminal ?
[13:40] <andeeeuk> not worth the hastle, you would have to reinstall everything?
[13:40] <jaidotsh> bye
[13:40] <MaxFrames> hello
[13:40] <ThaTJGreeN> hi
[13:40] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, and what are the values of "Broadcast" and "Multicast"?
[13:41] <andeeeuk> pfifo can you remove gnome 3 in command line?
[13:41] <MaxFrames> I have a netbook with an internal ssd hdd and an sd card, winxp is on the hdd while ubuntu + grub are on the sd card
[13:41] <andeeeuk> to remove everything?
[13:41] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, and the main.log
[13:41] <pfifo> andeeeuk, yeah, "mke2fs"
[13:41] <omichalek> dr0id: do you want to remove the file?
[13:41] <bruzer> forgive me, kind of new to linux, how do I get that?
[13:41] <MaxFrames> the sd card is set to boot first, so when I turn the netbook on with the sd card inserted, I get grub
[13:41] <santhu1984> can any one help me
[13:41] <dr0id> no just clear content
[13:41] <dr0id> $ > filename worked, but not sure why/how :/
[13:41] <ForceDestroyer> Okay, I have no idea what I'm doing and a work-critical machine is pretty much failing, is there a clean way to downgrade, aka revert the update to 11.4?
[13:41] <MaxFrames> if I boot the netbook w/o the sd card, winxp boots (no grub)
[13:42] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, sure, I'll pastebin that one seperately
[13:42] <bazhang> ForceDestroyer, full reinstall is the only way
[13:42] <MaxFrames> now I want to remove grub from the sd card; how do I go about doing that?
[13:42] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, it's all in the output of the -C Network command I asked you to run
[13:42] <omichalek> dr0id: sorry can't help
[13:42] <andeeeuk> pfifo, whats that?
[13:42] <ThaTJGreeN> dose anyone know if there is an android app to control ubuntu's desktop??
[13:42] <lxuser> good morning all, I get an error when trying to remove someone or something from my buddy list that I rejected to add. it says, "Are you sure you want to delete brennanhgd@wiredmail.info from your contacts?" and then says, "User could not be removed: Server was unable to read request. ---> There is an error in XML document (4, 173). ---> Guid should contain 32 digits with 4 dashes (xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx)." Help please.
[13:42] <Sidewinder1> ask > santhu1984
[13:42] <bruzer> ok, hold on
[13:43] <pfifo> andeeeuk, it is a program used to format a harddrive partition from the cli
 i ve upgraded ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and upgrading failed in between and i am not able to access my terminal and lost all most all functions
[13:43] <andeeeuk> oh ok well i wouldnt want to do that while i am working on it
[13:43] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601313/
[13:43] <zcot> hi guys. good place for 10.10 server LAMP/FTP permission problems?
[13:43] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, thanks in advance for lending a hand :-)
[13:43] <pfifo> andeeeuk, it works well from a livecd
[13:43] <andeeeuk> there is no way other than formatting the HD?
[13:44] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, Can you boot to live CD and look around from there?
[13:44] <haqzor7> Hey is ubuntu 11.04 worth it?
[13:44] <lol> In my opinion no.
[13:44] <ubuntu> Hi i can use unity desktop even after installation but not able to get gui once i installed ATI graphics card driver ?
[13:44] <andeeeuk> pfifo well i will right over this intsall straight with 11.04
[13:44] <pfifo> andeeeuk, no, its not possible, gnome3 replaces gnome2 stuff, you can never go back
[13:44] <ubuntu> is that require really a graphics card ?
 i am not having cd right now
[13:44] <ThaTJGreeN> @haqzor7 yes it is
[13:44] <MaxFrames> knock knock
[13:45] <ThaTJGreeN> who's there
[13:45] <lol> @ubuntu correct you will need the drivers to enable unity.  ^^
[13:45] <MaxFrames> a guy looking for help about removing grub :P
[13:45] <andeeeuk> yeah, that why i will reinstall everything over this install
[13:45] <andeeeuk> format and everything
[13:45] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, ok, I see. Is that dutch? pls run "sudo dpkg --configure -a"
[13:45] <Asad2005> i am getting WARNING **: Liferea seems to be running already under unity but i dont see it visible i tried alt-tab not in the list
[13:45] <haqzor7> @MaxFrames I found a site where you can do that!
[13:45] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, What about booting to Recovery Mode
[13:45] <MaxFrames> haqzor7: "a site"?
[13:46] <ubuntu> unity is working fine before driver installation
[13:46] <haqzor7> Yea you go to the website, and it explains everything for you
[13:46] <omichalek> please help, my boot time is terribly slow, several mintes of black screen after grub before splash appears
[13:46] <omichalek> what can i do?
[13:46] <Curly_Q> Dr_Willis thanks for the advice. I always appreciate your input. Good man.
[13:46] <MaxFrames> sweet
[13:46] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, yes, that's Dutch, kinda silly that the logging is translated ;-)
[13:46] <pfifo> andeeeuk, installing ubuntu over a previous ubuntu with gnome3 will yeild undefined results, approach with caution
[13:46] <andeeeuk> i really dont know why there were no warning when upgrading to gnome3 shocking really
 i am trying from that only
[13:46] <pfifo> !gnome3 | andeee
[13:46] <sl33k_> is amd64 64 bit os?
[13:46] <MaxFrames> so first of all; it's done from linux I guess, not from windows?
 how to get back my terminal
[13:46] <pfifo> andeeeuk, "safe downgrading is not possible."
[13:46] <lol> Does anyone even like unity?
[13:46] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, yeah, I allways have to translate things here, if I got a question ;) and pls paste the results of that command
[13:47] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, I've run your somewhat ominous command O_o
[13:47] <haqzor7> @MaxFrames http://www.sorgonet.com/linux/grubrestore
[13:47] <BlouBlou> yes
[13:47] <andeeeuk> why would that be? the drive would be completely formatted before reinstalling
[13:47] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, Well, as I'm sure you're aware, if all else fails, you may need to clean install.. :-(
[13:47] <bazhang> lol #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat
[13:47] <andeeeuk> no downgrade just a reinstall
[13:47] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, there were no results, just a new cmd prompt
[13:47] <MaxFrames> ok thx
[13:48] <bruzer> both yes
 when the boot list comes up, hit "recovery mode" there is an option to update Grub, try that.
is der any way to get back to earlier version
[13:48] <omichalek> lxuser: thank you, going to do that!
[13:48] <bazhang> santhu1984, full reinstall
[13:48] <lxuser> ok good luck
[13:48] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, lets concentrate on the packages mentioned in main.log at the end (> line 169)
[13:48] <andeeeuk> really disappointed though tbh!! my system was stable with everything i needed
[13:49] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, and the driver listed in that output is the b43 you mentioned?
[13:49] <pfifo> andeeeuk, PPA's are sometimes a bad idea
[13:49] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure python"
[13:49] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, You can always reinstall the older version, but you'll loose all of your data; unless you had/have a separate home directory.
[13:49] <BlouBlou> pfifo: are usually bad idea :P
[13:49] <andeeeuk> lol
[13:49] <bruzer> yes
[13:49] <andeeeuk> thanks
 how to save my data
[13:50] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, On a separate partition.
[13:50] <santhu1984> ok
[13:50] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon, btw it's not safe to reboot. the TTYs will work, but not the nvidia driver nor metacity
[13:50] <sl33k_> does this install get dual booted on startup http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download ?
[13:50] <mattyh88> how can i know for sure that apache2 is installed?
 is der any way to upgrade to latest version again
[13:50] <mattyh88> should apache -v normally work?
[13:50] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, I've executed the reconfig python line, no feedback from the cmd-line | Thx for the warning not to reboot :-)
[13:51] <iceroot> mattyh88: dpkg -l apache
[13:51] <Incarus6> sl33k_, depending on your settings durin installation
[13:51] <iceroot> mattyh88: dpkg -l apache2
[13:51] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, You need to aquire a Live CD, boot to it then save your data to an external drive or another partition.
[13:51] <sl33k_> Incaus6: so yes?
[13:51] <iceroot> mattyh88: if the line starts with ii, its installed
ok
[13:51] <Mahjongg> hello, how do you get the system preferences user preferences menus in unity?
 how can i use itunes s/w on ubuntu
[13:51] <Stereocaulon> Incarus6, could we please join a priv. channel?, the chatter makes it hard to follow your responses
[13:52] <iceroot> mattyh88: and the binary is called apache2 not apache
[13:52] <bazhang> santhu1984, you cannot, as I said
[13:52] <sl33k_> Incarus6: so theres an option?
[13:52] <iceroot> !ipod | santhu1984
[13:52] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, run: ifconfig     and tell me which device (eg "wlan0) has more than zero RX packets
[13:52] <Sidewinder1> santhu1984, I know absolutely nothing about itunes; I wouldn't touch it, sorry. :-)
[13:53] <e75> tyler87
[13:53] <Incarus6> sl33k_, of course, when you're partitioning your disk you can select if you want to remove ther other os's or if you want to have dualboot
[13:53] <bruzer> lo
[13:53] <tyler87> can i edit the appmenu any? i dont like the empathy and evolution indicators being there.
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> Mahjongg:  menu item whenb you click on the power button at top right
[13:54] <hihihi100> im upgrading to 11.04, its been like that for the last 24 hours. Yesterday, 12 hours ago, there were just 9 minutes left to download the files. 2 minutea go, I discover that the upgrader is starting to install, STARTING, not in the middle of installing or the end, but the BEGINNING; less than 5%. WTF is wrong with my machine?
[13:55] <Ignatus> so, I still can't run unity on my laptop, fresh install natty gm. Additional drivers window says "This driver is activated, but not in use" regarding Nvidia current. any workarounds?
[13:55] <pfifo> hihihi100, upgrading is problematic, do a fresh install
[13:55] <hihihi100> fuck
[13:55] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, ok, one of the others should also be showing packet throughput
[13:55] <Mahjongg> Dr_Willis, that only takes me to power preferences?
[13:55] <pfifo> hihihi100, ikr
[13:55] <LjL> !language | hihihi100
[13:55] <bazhang> hihihi100, no cursing
[13:55] <mattyh88> iceroot: no packages found matching apache2
[13:56] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, what other devices (other than lo) are listed?
[13:56] <bruzer> no
[13:56] <hihihi100> a, the always welcomed political correctness...
[13:56] <alienkid10> I have Ubuntu installed on an exteral HDD since 10.04 I've upgraded to 10.10 when it came out and ran the upgrade to 11.04 yesterday. It stopped listening to my wireless KB/mouse (logitech) near the end of the upgrade but rebooted itself. I then tried to boot into 11.04 and I press enter to boot the defualt Kernel it looks like it's booting but my external shuts off before it can (seemingly) do anything. I can'r see the bootsplas
[13:56] <mattyh88> iceroot: i do have some files installed @ /usr/lib/apache2
[13:56] <bruzer> wlan0 andeth0
[13:56] <sl33k_> Incarus6: i just found i have a 10.04 i386 .iso file. burning is required to install?
[13:57] <pfifo> hihihi100, if you really want to stan a chance of upgrading you have to keep your system uptodate and ease into the alphas and betas
[13:57] <bblz> I just installed Natty for the first time and jockey tells me that the NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version current) [Recommended] is "activated but not currently in use". 'Sup?
[13:57] <bblz> GTX 470 if it matters.
[13:57] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, and you don't have an ethernet cable plugged in do you?
[13:57] <Mahjongg> hello, how do you get the system preferences user preferences menus in unity?
[13:57] <Incarus6> sl33k_, there should be a live mode on that cd
[13:57] <bruzer> No
[13:57] <step21> alienkid10, what connection?
[13:57] <hihihi100> i believe my system was up to date: before installing 11-04 i updated everything that needed to be updated
[13:57] <alienkid10> step21: USB2.0
[13:58] <tyler87> is it possible to resize a logical partition container with the free unallocated space being in front of it on the partition table?
[13:58] <Ignatus> bblz; got the same problem here. it was working fine under maverick for me
[13:58] <bblz> ditto Ignatus
[13:58] <marlen_jon> Is there a system of voice recognition which I can use to link a function to a command that was called by voice?
[13:58] <pfifo> hihihi100, no, you would have needed to go from 10.10 to 11.04 alpha a few months ago
[13:58] <hihihi100> can anyone share how much time they have needed to upgrade?
[13:58] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, run: ifconfig wlan0
[13:58] <sl33k_> Incarus6: dont know about live mode, could you expand? i have always used wubi
[13:58] <sandhu> pl tell me is there any movie maker for ubuntu
[13:58] <hihihi100> pfifo, a, ok
[13:58] <Toph> hihihi100,,, mone took about 5 hours
[13:59] <tyler87> hihihi100, it took me about 2 hours
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> tyler87, I believe there is. Chech this out...
[13:59] <Incarus6> !live | sl33k_
[13:59] <sl33k_> Incarus6: i would prefer wubu but it is bandwidth eating :(
[13:59] <bruzer> ok
[13:59] <alienkid10> hihihi100: about 1hr 30mins but I used the alternative install CD to upgrade and ethernet
[13:59] <hihihi100> did you use the alpha, as pfifo just said?
[13:59] <sandhu> pl tell me is there any movie maker for ubuntu
[13:59] <Sidewinder1> !partitioning > tyler87
[13:59] <alienkid10> hihihi100: no
[14:00] <tjiggi_fo> bruzer, still nothing?
[14:00] <pfifo> hihihi100, no, not this time, i ws wrapped up in a project and didnt want to deal with bugs
[14:00] <bazhang> sandhu, sure, check in the ubuntu software center for some
[14:00] <hihihi100> alienkid16, so, download it as ISO, burn a cd and fresh install it?
[14:00] <tyler87> i already know about partitioning for new installs and such
[14:00] <LjL> sandhu: cinelerra, avidemux, stopmotion, blender, lives, openmovieeditor, jahshaka, openshot  —  GNOME: pitivi, kino  —  KDE: kdenlive  —  console: gopchop, avidemux-cli
[14:00] <sl33k_> Incarus6: thanks for the help
[14:00] <Datz> hi, is there a way to upgrade to 11.04 without unity, more of a minimal upgrade?
[14:00] <Incarus6> sl33k_, you're welcome
[14:00] <alienkid10> step21: I know it's Ubuntu shutting it off becuase the lights are on all through the boot untill I 4 seconds after I press the kernel then it goes a blank screen with a blinking cursor and my ext-HDD shutrs off
[14:00] <hihihi100> alienkid10, so, download it as ISO, burn a cd and fresh install it?
[14:00] <pfifo> 1minimal | Datz
[14:01] <tyler87> and i know with primary partitions you cant resize if the unallocated space is at the front of the partition table. but i dont know about logical containers
[14:01] <MeanEYE> Datz: upgrade, logout and login to gnome classic session
[14:01] <pfifo> !minimal | Datz
[14:01] <alienkid10> hihihi100: no
[14:01] <sandhu> pl  give  me any url
[14:01] <trailoryo> chose to run ubuntu classic in login screen
[14:01] <bazhang> Datz, apart from the obvious choosing gnome classic from login?
[14:01] <alienkid10> hihihi100: download the alternative CD iso burn it and put it in your running system
[14:01] <bazhang> sandhu, in the ubuntu software center
[14:01] <Datz> bazhang: yes?
[14:01] <bazhang> !software > sandhu
[14:01] <marlen_jon> Is there a system of voice recognition which I can use to link a function to a command that was called by voice?
[14:02] <Sidewinder1> tyler87, Then just use a partitioning tool (gparted, perhaps) to combine the two.
[14:02] <alienkid10> hihihi100: run upgradefromcdrom that is on the CD if it doesn't start automatically
[14:02] <Datz> I don't know how large the Unity package is, but I'd like to avoid downloading it, during the upgrade
[14:02] <alienkid10> Datz: use the alternative CD uppgrade
[14:02] <step21> alienkid10, but this could also be self-shut down because of inactivity. I would boot from livecd and check the grub settings
[14:02] <Sidewinder1> tyler87, Back up everything FIRST!
[14:03] <Datz> alienkid10: ah, ok I'll look into that, thanks
[14:03] <alienkid10> step21: I turned self shutdown off. But what settings do you want me to check?
[14:03] <zcot> on home webdevelopment server, I set apache to just use /home/zcot/www/ because i have ftp access there and I don't know any better , but apache is serving 403 forbidden.
[14:03] <LjL> !info gnome-voice-control | marlen_jon
[14:03] <pfifo> zcot, apache2 runs as the use www-data and cannot read those files due to permissions
[14:03] <trailoryo> anyone got problems playing .mkv in vlc? 720 or 1080.. it lags for me ;|
[14:03] <marlen_jon> ubottu: Is it possible to perform this linking I was talking about?
[14:03] <tyler87> Sidewinder1, heh yeah. i still need to make a live o.s.. i was just wondering if it was possible to resize an entire container with the space in front of it before i go about trying to get everything ready
[14:04] <tyler87> Sidewinder1, thanks for the information
[14:04] <bazhang> trailoryo, not really, though mplayer does play them more smoothly imo
[14:04] <zcot> pfifo : can/should i set that directory to be owned by apache user or something? but I still need ftp access.
[14:04] <marlen_jon> LjL: Is it possible to perform this linking I was talking about?
[14:04] <LjL> marlen_jon: i am not sure
[14:04] <trailoryo> Thanks i
[14:04] <step21> alienkid10, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootFromUSB 'Booting via usb' and then check if in /boot/grub/grub.conf the right drive is entered. or you could try it on the grub command line
[14:05] <dibs> Incarus6: I tried removing and reinstalling where needed to all those files with no thirdparty repos available. Trying upgrade again now
[14:05] <Sidewinder1> tyler87, Like I said, I think you should be able to do that with extended/logical partitions; just back up...
[14:05] <marlen_jon> THanks
[14:05] <omichalek> lxuser are you here?
[14:05] <pfifo> zcot, you can change ownership or change permissions, either will work
[14:05] <andeeeuk> does anyone know a fast mirror for 11.04?
[14:05] <jlamothe> Anyone else having problems with GNUcash under 11.04?
[14:05] <Incarus6> dibs, don't forget to reinstall "ubuntu-desktop" to match all dependencies
[14:05] <step21> alienkid10, I think it is most likely that grub passes the wrong root to the kernel or doesn't find the kernel
[14:05] <Sidewinder1> tyler87, You're more than welcome.
[14:05] <Sik> So for the Nth time in the day I tried to fix the graphics, but no matter what I do I'm completely unable to boot at all in normal mode. I have to go into safe mode for 11.04 to boot. Help?
[14:05] <alienkid10> step21: I know GRUB is using UUID to boot the drive or at least it was in 10.10
[14:06] <idefix> my keypad numerals don't work anymore, I tried two different keyboard, with both it doesn't work, what could be the problem?
[14:06] <pfifo> idefix, try pressing shift + numlock
[14:06] <dibs> Incarus6: will do if it fails
[14:07] <step21> alienkid10, yeah I know, but it doesn't seem to work. it's just that if it shuts down that quickly this is most likely. otherwise boot into livecd and look at syslog for errors
[14:07] <zcot> pfifo : ok thank you, i will try. (is this a good chan for server stuff?)
[14:07] <Eduard> guys, is nvidia-96 fixed in 11.04?
[14:07] <andeeeuk> anyone know a fast mirror to download 11.04 as the ubuntu website is v slow?
[14:07] <Incarus6> dibs, roger, and before you restart
[14:07] <andeeeuk> :)
[14:07] <bazhang> zcot, there is also #ubuntu-server
[14:07] <idefix> with the shift button the numerals work
[14:07] <alienkid10> step21: will do
[14:07] <pfifo> zcot, depends on what you want really, theres #ubuntu-server as well
[14:07] <jlamothe> andeeeuk: Have you tried the torrent?
[14:07] <bazhang> andeeeuk, thats relative; what region
[14:08] <idefix> pfifo how did you know this?
[14:08] <andeeeuk> south uk
[14:08] <andeeeuk> i have not tried a torrent
[14:08] <step21> alienkid10, just make sure it's the one of the installed system, not the livecd's ;)
[14:08] <bazhang> perhaps .fr
[14:08] <wombatunder> Can someone please private chat me for some very basic ubuntu help?
[14:08] <jlamothe> andeeeuk: That's the route I went.
[14:08] <zcot> excellent thank you guys.
[14:08] <bazhang> wombatunder, ask here
[14:08] <pfifo> idefix, i dont know
[14:08] <andeeeuk> ok cheers
[14:08] <Eduard> is nvidia-96 driver working in 11.04?
[14:08] <jlamothe> andeeeuk: The nice thing about torrents is that the more popular they are, the more seeders thare are and the faster they run.
[14:08] <marlen_jon> Eduard: Yes
[14:08] <terry> wombatunder: See my pm
[14:09] <andeeeuk> yeah def
[14:09] <Eduard> marlen_jon: broken deps bug was fixeD?
[14:10] <alienkid10> step21: yeah. Here's how I get to GRUB BTW: boot computer NTLDR>pick "Ubuntu Linux" and GRUB4DOS boots boot.img on the ext4 partition on my external HDD GRUB on Ubuntu appears and lets me pick what to do.
[14:10] <marlen_jon> Eduard: Not sure though but I remember a simliar question from one of the members here which was eventually solved successfuly.
[14:10] <_emily> FloodBot3 ``
[14:10] <alienkid10> step21: so look for what in my grub.conf?
[14:10] <lavanyadeepak> Is there a way I upgrade Ubuntu 10.04 to 11.04 using a CD?
[14:10] <bazhang> _emily, its a bot
[14:10] <_emily> i know
[14:10] <Eduard> marlen_jon: ok, thanks. I will try a clean install now
[14:11] <bazhang> lavanyadeepak, there is no way possible to do that, cd or not
[14:11] <lavanyadeepak> The computer that I am intending to upgrade does not have a fast Internet connection
[14:11] <Osmodivs> Ok, so I was upgrading from the terminal, i pressed D to see the details of what packages where going to be removed, then at the end of the page says: END, but nothing happens if I press enter, How do i continue with the proces of upgrading?
[14:11] <CQ> lavanyadeepak: put in the CD and change the source, but you have to go through 10.10, can't do it directly
[14:11] <step21> alienkid10, if the drives match up. you can compar with the output of 'sudo blkid' I think.
[14:11] <bazhang> lavanyadeepak, unless you want to do a full reinstall
[14:11] <pfifo> Osmodivs, try pressing Q
[14:11] <lavanyadeepak> That is why I need to grab Ubuntu 11.04 ona difference computer and then put it on this one
[14:11] <hxing> ubuntu 1104 is awesome , in 3d
[14:11] <Flynsarmy> Anyone know how to access a windows pc that doesn't have a password via samba?
[14:12] <isarl> hi all; after my recent update to 11.04 from 10.10, I have no GUI, but I do have a virtual terminal.  I can run commands to diagnose and repair the problem, but I'm not sure what those commands are.  Any help?
[14:12] <Osmodivs> pfifo, it worked. THX!!
[14:12] <Eduard> isarl: are u using xorg.conf
[14:12] <jrib> !samba | Flynsarmy
[14:12] <alienkid10> step21: ok so the root should be the ext4 partition on my external HDD. (which should be hd1,1 or if GRUB2 starts from 1 then hd2,2)
[14:12] <lavanyadeepak> I have another issue with my Ubuntu 10.10
[14:12] <step21> alienkid10, yeah ...
[14:12] <sandhu> pl tell me we can give password to external harddisk and how
[14:13] <isarl> Eduard:  I think so..?  There is a file at /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:13] <lavanyadeepak> When I start Remote Desktop Viewer and when it is about to connect to remote host, the screen logs out
[14:13] <bazhang> sandhu, password?
[14:13] <lavanyadeepak> and comes to the login screen
[14:13] <comcomist> i have prob with apt-get upgrade on linux-headers-2.6.35-28-generic, see http://paste.ubuntu.com/598867/ This prob blocks me from any upgrading for the last 2 weeks, can not report bug so i report it here
[14:13] <step21> alienkid10, about the grub4dos combo, I'm not really sure if it could cause errors. should be fine if you get to normal grub I guess.
[14:13] <alienkid10> step21: I'll log back into IRC from a Live CD and tell you what I find.
[14:13] <sandhu> yes password to open external harddisk
[14:13] <step21> alienkid10, okay
[14:13] <Toph> i've lost the activity panel at the bottom of my screen. How do I restore it?
[14:13] <ouyes> hello, I will get a thinkpad x201,but I do not know which version of ubuntu I should install into the box  10.04 10.10 11.04?
[14:13] <Sidewinder1> lavanyadeepak, I believe that you'll have to update version by version to go from 10.04 to 11.04.
[14:13] <Eduard> isarl: remove xorg.conf. remove your drivers(nvidia or ati)
[14:13] <Dr_Willis> sandhu:  perhaps its asking for the sudo password to mount them
[14:14] <Eduard> isarl: then enable nouveau
[14:14] <pfifo> sandGorgon, look into using gpg encryption
[14:14] <Flynsarmy> jrib: neither of those have the info i asked for
[14:14] <hxing> somebody wanna talk with me ?
[14:14] <pfifo> sandhu, , look into using gpg encryption
[14:14] <pfifo> sandGorgon, disregard that
[14:14] <Eduard> isarl: it should get you graphics back
[14:14] <bazhang> hxing, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat NOT here
[14:14]  * jrib sighs
[14:14] <isarl> Eduard: renaming xorg.conf to something like xorg.conf.bkp would be okay? And I remove the drivers through apt-get, right?
[14:14] <isarl> Eduard: Never heard of nouveau before, though.
[14:14] <lavanyadeepak> Why does Ubuntu log me out frequently when I start remote desktop?
[14:15] <jrib> Flynsarmy: so you tried to mount the share using cifs and the options on the wiki (including "guest")?  What was the result?
[14:15] <Vardan> hi all
[14:15] <Eduard> isarl: renaming would be okay. Driver remove through apt-get. Though i am not sure how to enable nouveau back, after propeartry driver has been installed. Wait a sec.
[14:16] <vagvaf> hello guys, is there any way to install packages using apt to my /home folder ?
[14:16] <Eduard> isarl: can you access /etc/modprobe.d with nano?
[14:16] <becky> I upgraded to 11.04 last night, and now I can't log in through X.  can log in via command line fine.  when I try to log in through X it looks like it's logging in then just brings back the login screen again.  an additional account does not have this problem
[14:16] <Mahjongg> hello, how do you get the system preferences user preferences menus in unity?
[14:16] <isarl> Eduard: I can do it with vim..!  :P
[14:16] <Flynsarmy> jrib: i didn't - but neither page have anything to do with no passwords on the windows side. the first one of the two mentions CIFS but nothing about the passwords
[14:16] <Eduard> becky: check xorg logs
[14:16] <KaneuA> Hello, everyone!
[14:16] <jrib> Flynsarmy: "guest indicates you don't need a password to access the share, "
[14:16] <isarl> Eduard: /etc/modprobe.d is a directory.
[14:17] <Flynsarmy> jrib: yup just spotted it. i thought that was for mounting one without a password, not accessing one. thanks
[14:17] <becky> Edgan, looking at them now.  doesn't mean a huge amount to me though.  what am I looking for specifically?
[14:17] <Eduard> isarl: what file are in directory?
[14:17] <jrib> Flynsarmy: no problem
[14:18] <Eduard> isarl: nvidia.conf is present?
[14:18] <isarl> Eduard: no, there's no nvidia.conf
[14:18] <isarl> Eduard: although I am using nvidia
[14:18] <Toph> becky,,, i'm having the same problem,, it seems like Unity is crashing in my case
[14:18] <trailoryo> How do I hotkey different workspaces?
[14:18] <Eduard> isarl: how much files do you have in this directory?
[14:19] <step21> becky, can you just not log into unity? try another desktop environment (bar at the bottom on login) and check if that works
[14:19] <isarl> Eduard: 11 files
[14:19] <Sik> I'm using 11.04, and I'm completely unable to boot Ubuntu now unless I go into safe mode. Seems to be an issue with graphics, but messing with the drivers (already tried all the available ones!) doesn't work at all :/
[14:19] <becky> Toph, ah Unity.  my gnome setup is heavily modified
[14:19] <isarl> Eduard: most match "blacklist-*.conf"
[14:19] <Eduard> isarl: one of these files should contain a line 'blacklist nouveau'
[14:19] <trailoryo> How do I hotkey different workspaces? please PM me the answer if u got one, Im headed out right about Now Lol =)
[14:19] <mbn_18> How do I open a minimized app in Unity? there is no mention at the top toolbar
[14:19] <isarl> Eduard: Nope, nouveau isn't mentioned in any of the blacklists
[14:19] <ouyes> hello, I will get a thinkpad x201,but I do not know which version of ubuntu I should install into the box  10.04 10.10 11.04?
[14:20] <Eduard> isarl: wth
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> trailoryo:  the omgubuntu blog site has a cheatsheet wallpaper that shows the keybindings.. askubuntu web site also has a list
[14:20] <budo> hello. anyone here familiar with puppylinux?
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> budo:  they have #puppylinux i belive.
[14:20] <pfifo> mbn_18, click the app icon in the panel
[14:20] <mbn_18> pfifo: Which panel?
[14:20] <budo> No one is in there to answer any questions.
[14:20] <budo> Or, no one is chatting.
[14:20] <pfifo> mbn_18, I have no idea what were calling it, the one on the left
[14:20] <isarl> budo, asking about puppylinux in a channel about #ubuntu isn't likely to get good results.
[14:21] <Eduard> isarl: it should be there... check again 'blacklist nouveau'
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> budo:  its not ubuntu. so its OT for here.
[14:21] <bazhang> !ot | budo
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> budo:  they got forums also
[14:21] <ajin> hey, guys, when wayland display server will be available for ubuntu?
[14:21] <OY1R> last night someone told me to reinstall grub, now grub is broken.
[14:21] <mbn_18> pfifo: Its not there. the instance is working and in the old view a small icon apeared on the top menu
[14:21] <bazhang> ajin, many years from now
[14:21] <Morkeleb> i intsalled ubuntu 11.4 and tried to install other languages, but none are found. it cannot connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com - so i changed the update server by detecting the best one. now i cannot select any laguange at all (none are listed anymore)
[14:21] <step21> ouyes, google thinkpad x201 and check which version has the most support for it :)
[14:21] <MuadDibber> Hi. Ubuntu just updated to 11.04. But Whatever i select in grub the screen turns black
[14:21] <budo> k, thanks ubottu
[14:21] <Eduard> isarl: if it was not present nvidia would be conflicting with nouveau
[14:21] <Dr_Willis> budo:  ive basically given up on Puppylinux. except for very very low end machines and special cases
[14:21] <Morkeleb> how to fix this?
[14:21] <pfifo> mbn_18, im not sure then
[14:22] <Tuplad> so... another nvidia talk. I've just installed Ubuntu on my laptop. the usb live version worked just fine, when I installed it it told me to get drivers, because unity can't be run.
[14:22] <mbn_18> pfifo: thx
[14:22] <ouyes> step21, google is not as smart as people here
[14:22] <Tuplad> installed nvidia, now I have no video whatsoever :(
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  whats your video chipset?
[14:22] <isarl> Eduard: ls /etc/modprobe.d -> {alsa-base,blacklist-ath_pci,blacklist,blacklist-firewire,blacklist-framebuffer,blacklist-modem,blacklist-oss,blacklist-rare-network,blacklist-watchdog,dkms,libpisock9}.conf
[14:22] <ajin> bazhang: TKS
[14:22] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: Nvidia GT540m - I downloaded from the site, installed, rebooted... now I'm in TTY trying to fix it.
[14:22] <step21> ouyes, but as people on google, people here just say what they think. Basically it should run, there is no clear better
[14:22] <Ignatus> seems to me there's alot of us having problems with nvidia and unity/jockey in 11.04
[14:23] <Eduard> isarl: try apt-get install nouveau
[14:23] <ajin> bazhang: i just found that xorg is the cpu-killer in summer
[14:23] <Ignatus> funny thing, it worked in beta1, beta2 broke it, now it's semi broken
[14:23] <isarl> Ignatus: a friend of mine was complaining about Unity, too, but I don't have many more details.
[14:23] <pfifo> Ignatus, nvidia gts250 here, works falwless
[14:23] <Eduard> isarl: strange as it may seem, but maybe it somehow got uninstalled
[14:23] <isarl> Eduard: Okay, will do.
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  downloaded from what site? I use the drivers included in the repositories.. not any from nvidia.com
[14:23] <Tuplad> Ignatus: indeed
[14:23] <OY1R> i got this error when i tried to boot http://pastebin.com/i2ZahWqH , so i was told to reinstall grub now when i boot the laptop stops at a grub_ prompt
[14:23] <isarl> Eduard: unable to locate package nouveau.
[14:23] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: the ones from repos didn't work at all, I downloaded from nvidia.com
[14:24] <Ignatus> it works fine on my desktop tower, but my laptop is a big no go. funny...alsmot
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  no idea on those. I just use the ones from the repos.
[14:24] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: the one in repos don't work either, I can uninstall the nvidia.com ones
[14:24] <pfifo> OY1R, it looks like your using a grub.cfg from an older install
[14:24] <Ignatus> oh well, if there's no fix for it yet, i'll just have to make do with classic for now
[14:24] <Eduard> isarl: damn, sorry i don't have any other ideas. Though you should rename your xorg.conf and remove nvidia driver. Maybe it will offer you limited graphics mode after restart.
[14:25] <Ignatus> another problem on my dekstop though, i've got no volume slider no more, it says just waiting for sound system. but i have sound working. ideas?
[14:25] <alienkid10> who was just helping me?
[14:25] <isarl> Eduard: I currently have four packages installed beginning with "nvida-", should I remove all of those as well?
[14:25] <Eduard> isarl: if not, you can always rename xorg.conf back and install your nvidia back
[14:25] <alienkid10> I think it was set21 but he isn't here anymore
[14:25] <Eduard> isarl: list them please
[14:25] <MuadDibber> Anyone idea About black screen?
[14:25] <step21> OY1R, something seems wrong with that install anyway ... from where did you reinstall it and did you have a special layout?
[14:26] <step21> alienkid10, me I guess ...
[14:26] <step21> ?
[14:26] <isarl> nvidia-{173-modaliases,96-modaliases,current-modaliases,settings}
[14:26] <alienkid10> step21: yeah
[14:26] <alienkid10> step21: ok everything checks out
[14:26] <OY1R> step21, reinstalled from liveCD and just standard layout, everything on one partition.
[14:27] <alienkid10> it does se root= and set=root tho
[14:27] <alienkid10> set root=*
[14:27] <mikebeecham> hi guys...has anyone seen windows flickering when you drag them around the desktop. If so, do you know what causes it?
[14:27] <Morkeleb> strange language install works now after updating server and restaring language support (it checked for languages again)
[14:27] <alienkid10> thye both point to the right drive bu one does it using uuid (set=root) one does it like sdb,msdos2 (set root=)
[14:28] <alienkid10> they*
[14:28] <cfc_{Pawpad}> how do i upgrade on a server from 10.10 to 11.04
[14:28] <step21> OY1R, weird ... if you don't have any data to lose, I think the easiest would be to reinstall and make sure that it install grub in the mbr
[14:28] <ajin> bazhang: wayland is already available on ubuntu11.04
[14:29] <alienkid10> step21: I'll paste bin my menuentry
[14:29] <isarl> Eduard: there are a few packages not named "nouveau" that might be what we're looking for: libdrm-nouveau1a (and $SAME-debug), xserver-xorg-video-nouveau (and $SAME-dbg), nouveau-firmware ?
[14:29] <ajin> bazhang: it doesn't make much sense for end users, but for develpers
[14:29] <isarl> Eduard: the nvidia packages I have are nvidia-{173-modaliases,96-modaliases,current-modaliases,settings}
[14:29] <bazhang> ajin, only experimental. its broken
[14:29] <step21> alienkid10, okay. did you check /var/log/syslog
[14:29] <ajin> bazhang: yeah
[14:29] <OY1R> i would rather not reinstall, it's been a bit of a fuzz to get everything up and running
[14:30] <alienkid10> step21: no not yet. Here's the paste: http://pastebin.com/sRuzSt0K
[14:30] <Eduard> isarl: write the nvidia package names down on a sheet of paper and remove them
[14:30] <step21> isarl, xserver-xorg-video-nouveau iirc
[14:30] <Flynsarmy> jrib: when i try //<ip>/C i get mount error(13): Permission denied however when i use //<hostname>/C I get No address associated with hostname. any ideas on how to get IP working?
[14:30] <deena> Hi is it required to  install ATi/AMD proprietary FGLRX graphics Driver or not if i am able to use unity
[14:31] <step21> deena, if you are already able to use it, it si not neccessary
[14:31] <expedion> Hey
[14:31] <pfifo> deena, no there is a 2d version of unity
[14:31] <Flynsarmy> jrib: googled it and the syntax here http://opensuse.swerdna.org/susesambacifs.html#hide is slightly different to the one in the doc you linked me to
[14:31] <Eduard> isarl: on the nouveau part i'm not sure. Btw, i got to go. If after removing drivers and renaming xorg.conf and afterwards restarting pc you don't get graphics back try to install package which step21 specified
[14:31] <KaneuA> Guys, I have a question for you.
[14:31] <Eduard> and restart again. good luck'
[14:31] <isarl> Eduard: Thank you for your help; have a nice day. =)
[14:32] <alienkid10> step21: I don't know what I'm lookig for in syslog
[14:32] <deena> i am able to run 3D games successfully then i hope not required to install ATI driver
[14:32] <Flynsarmy> jrib: strike that - same syntax. just not sure how to pass that permission denied error. i was using sudo
[14:32] <expedion> I am having trouble with unity and cairo atm. For one, if i enable cairo and use its full panel gui, the dock of unity on the left, still remains. 2nd of all my upper dock keeps crashing sometimes when i disable and enable unity again
[14:32] <dibs> Incarus6: still fails, need sleep though so will try again tomorrow maybe. thanks
[14:32] <terry> What is the default IRC client for 10.04 ?
[14:32] <basuki> hi
[14:32] <expedion> Im using ubuntu 11.04
[14:32] <step21> alienkid10, just paste the last few lines or anything that looks like errors
[14:32] <terry> Or does it not come with one?
[14:32] <Incarus6> dibs, sorry
[14:32] <deena> if i install i am not able to use unity it says clearly that i dont have hardware card but i have 215mb on board graphics card available
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> terry: X-Chat
[14:33] <terry> Sidewinder1: That's what I thought.... Ok.
[14:33] <expedion> So how do I make Unity and Compiz/unity work peacefully together when i change theme in cairo
[14:33] <terry> Sidewinder1: If someone does not have Xchat, they they must not have a full install.  Right?  Or...?
[14:33] <Sidewinder1> terry: it's under Applications-->Internet
[14:33] <expedion> So that compiz/unity adapt itself to the settings of cairo, and not remain there in its place as a prick :P
[14:33] <bazhang> terry, you can install it
[14:33] <BKTech86> hi, how can I add an entry to grub 2?
[14:34] <alienkid10> here: http://pastebin.com/pJWStJQT if you need more then I can paste it too
[14:34] <bazhang> empathy is the default iirc
[14:34] <isarl> step21: Hm, I already had the nouveau package installed.  Moving xorg.conf and/or deleting my nvidia drivers seems to have done it.  Thank you for your help, as well.
[14:34] <Sidewinder1> terry: That's a question I can not answer.
[14:34] <nerdshell> I try to install firefox 4, I download the firefox.tar.bz and I don't no how to install it, I don't find the make file, any help please?
[14:34] <step21> deegee_, well, everything has some graphics card. probably yours (especially if it is on-board) is not sufficient.
[14:34] <bazhang> nerdshell, what version of ubuntu
[14:34] <step21> isarl, good to hear
[14:34] <alienkid10> also grub4dos is loading (hd1,1)/boot/grub/core.img
[14:34] <isarl> step21: Whoa, not so fast, maybe..  apparently I "do not have the hardware required to run Unity."
[14:35] <nerdshell> bazhang: 10.10
[14:35] <paideia> hi, I'm trying to download flash video streams with rtmpdump, for a start I'm trying to get those parameters with rtmpsuck. Any one heres know the expected behaviour of rtmpsuck..?
[14:35] <bazhang> !fx4 | nerdshell please see this
[14:35] <expedion> Guys ,any solution?
[14:35] <Sidewinder1> terry: some folks use irissi but you have to install it
[14:35] <pfifo> paideia, last i check rtmpdump is broken
[14:35] <bazhang> paideia, any reason not to use the firefox add on for that?
[14:35] <Akashaa> hi! I've just installed ubuntu lucid, but it does not start. I've already reinstalled grub, but I alwas get to the grub prompt. any ideas?
[14:35] <expedion> can anyone actually read my messages? Im using Xirc chat for the first time
[14:35] <Dr_Willis> that FF4 factouid needs updated a little bit. :)
[14:36] <BKTech86> does anyone know how to add an entry manually to grub2?
[14:36] <bazhang> expedion, yes
[14:36] <alienkid10> expedion: I can
[14:36] <nerdshell> bazhang: thanks a lot, but what's the problem with the .tar I downloaded from mozilla.com
[14:36] <expedion> Ok, thank goodness...
[14:36] <step21> alienkid10, maybe paste some more ... looks normal so far
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> BKTech86:  edit the /etc/grub.d/40_custom file - is one way.
[14:36] <bazhang> BKTech86, read the grub2 wiki?
[14:36] <expedion> Cause im having a problem with unity/cairo that id like to have help with
[14:36] <bazhang> nerdshell, no need for it really
[14:36] <isarl> step21: should I have installed nouveau-firmware as well..?
[14:37] <step21> isarl, yes, if it is not that could help
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  it wont auto-upgrade i belive. and it wont install for everyone on the system,
[14:37] <step21> i thought it would be a required dependency anyway
[14:37] <paideia> bazhang, not particularly, I just wanted to have an automated way of watching a movie from the shell...
[14:37] <Calz> hey, how could I limit my bandwidth ?
[14:37] <zizban> A lot people have been having issues with Nvidia and Unity.
[14:37] <zizban> This isn't the first time I've heard this error
[14:37] <isarl> step21: Whoa, cool, kernel panic!
[14:37] <expedion> Ive installed cairo and I changed the theme to japanese dock. Now when I enable this, the unity dock still remains and doesnt go away, so the japanese dock overlaps the unity dock, so im left with 2 different docks (themes) running.
[14:37] <alienkid10> I found something
[14:37] <expedion> How can I solve this issue?
[14:37] <step21> bazhang, doesn't natty have fx4?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> !info global-menu
[14:38] <isarl> step21: "Fatal machine check on current CPU"; it rebooted itself.
[14:38] <bazhang> step21, he's on 10.10
[14:38] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: you advise me not installing it?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  use teh PPA method.. forget the tar.gz
[14:38] <step21> isarl, umh, from what?
[14:38] <BKTech86> Dr_Willis: how do i know which hdX,X to use, given my partition is /dev/sda2?
[14:38] <alienkid10> step21: near the top of this: http://pastebin.com/y4kPnqWP
[14:38] <BKTech86> Dr_Willis: nvm, found the info thanks
[14:38] <isarl> step21: I imagine from trying to use the new nouveau-firmware package… I installed it, then logged out and tried logging in again so Unity would start.
[14:38] <expedion> Oh boy, Im just not bein heard at all :(:(
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> BKTech86:  sda = hd1 i think. sda2 = 2 I think.. grub2 starts ONE at 1,, and the other at 0 (whioch i always forget which way)
[14:38] <isarl> step21: When I tried to log in, kernel panic!
[14:39] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: ok, I just wanna understand why the tar.gz doesn't work, shouldn't it contain a makefile normally ?
[14:39] <ajin> UNITY is SO wonderful
[14:39] <glda19> how used pam ore pkcs11 and pkcs15
[14:39] <bazhang> expedion, sure you are, no one has an answer at the moment
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  its NOT the source.. its a precompiled binary.
[14:39] <pfifo> !jp | expedion
[14:39] <expedion> pfifo, what did u do.
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  extract it and run firefox fgrom the direcyory it makes.. if you want to.
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  you are better off using the PPA
[14:39] <Incarus6> pfifo, sure hes speaking japanese? I think just no one knows the answer
[14:39] <bazhang> pfifo, he's speaking english
[14:39] <step21> isarl, maybe better after restart?
[14:40] <isarl> step21: That's the hope! =)
[14:40] <step21> alienkid10, mmmh. what file system on sdb1 (the usb drive i presume)?
[14:40] <expedion> I hope i do get an answer, because i want to use cairo in its decent form so bad.
[14:40] <expedion> The japanese theme on it just looks so nice.
[14:40] <pfifo> expedion, Incarus6 bazhang, if hes having trouble with a japanese dock ,there is a good chance japanese users know how to fix it
[14:40] <ajin> i just cant help wondering why so many people are cursing it
[14:40] <expedion> Noooo
[14:40] <Incarus6> pfifo, thats the name ;)
[14:40] <cfc_{Pawpad}> guys is there away to change language on a server version with out reinstall it???
[14:40] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: I didn't get you... when I extract it, I found a folder named "firefox" there are binaries, images in it, how can I install it (just to know about it, I'll use the PPA méthode)
[14:40] <bazhang> pfifo, thats hardly a way to go
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> ajin:  its not what people are used to. and it  makes them change their 'work flow'
[14:40] <alienkid10> step21: I need to eat breakfast I'll stay logged in but PM me anything you need to tell me
[14:41] <expedion> Its not a japanese languaged dock, it's a theme called like that in Cairo-Dock.
[14:41] <pfifo> Incarus6, ohh well in that case maybe not
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  in that dir. You run the proper binary. you dont 'install' it..  you run it from that Directory
[14:41] <step21> alienkid10, okay
[14:41] <Incarus6> Maybe he's speaking chinese and that's the reason, why no one answers..
[14:41] <step21> alienkid10, just ping when you are back
[14:41] <expedion> incarus6: Am i speaking chinese lol ?:P
[14:41] <ajin> Dr_Willis: yeah~;-)
[14:41] <glda19> hwo used pam pkcs11 and pkcs15
[14:42] <Incarus6> !zn | expedion
[14:42] <Incarus6> !cn | expedion
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> ajin:  and the fact unity basically refuses to run on my systmes untill i install the proper nvidia drivers.. is really annoying
[14:42] <expedion> OMG am I speaking chinese lol
[14:42] <isarl> step21: Well, no kernel panic this time, but I still don't seem to have compositing.  nothing in the "Additional Drivers" settings is selected, either, although there are 3 options.
[14:42] <Incarus6> expedion, nevermind ;) did you try to remove it?
[14:42] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks, why should the PPA be better then ?
[14:42] <expedion> Remove cairo?
[14:42] <redunndancy> how can i disable the unity side bar?? I just updated my system to ubuntu 11.04 and its now stuck in there
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  you can install it system wide.. and it will update...
[14:42] <Incarus6> expedion, remove that japanese thing
[14:42] <expedion> U know, I tried to disable the unity from compiz so I can just run Cairo only in stead, but that leaves the upper and the left side untampered.
[14:42] <Dr_Willis> redunndancy:  select classic desktop at the GDM login for the old gnome.
[14:43] <ajin> Dr_Willis: unity uses openGL to run correctly and smoothly
[14:43] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: system wide?  what does that exactly mean please?
[14:43] <expedion> Sort of like a unaltered, unused space.
[14:43] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  for all users..
[14:43] <expedion> that the unity docks used up, is just not used by cairo.
[14:43] <ravn> hi folks, I have problems with grub (again, what are the package perople of this package doing??). I installed ubuntu 10.10 on an old laptop which worked w.o. any problem, but after the last update I get grub out of disk. I have tried to reinstall grub, but it does not make any difference, what to do?
[14:43] <Incarus6> expedion, sorry, I can't help you ;) I'm using KDE
[14:43] <Stereocaulon_> Incarus6, thanks, it worked. I'm on Natty now.
[14:43] <ajin> Dr_Willis:  so you need your VGA fully driven
[14:44] <welloong>  /join #ubuntu-hk
[14:44] <expedion> What's better though, KDE or Gnome?
[14:44] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: yeah okay, I got it, I got it, but why doesn't Canonical support it yet?
[14:44] <step21> isarl, if nouveau is not proprietary, it will not shop up in add. drivers
[14:44] <expedion> Any difference between KDE and Gnome, incarus.
[14:44] <expedion> Incarus6
[14:44] <bazhang> expedion, ask bestbot in #ubuntu-bots dont poll here
[14:44] <isarl> step21: how can I tell nouveau is actually being used?
[14:44] <nerdshell> welloong:  who can you display special commands instead of making Nickserv interpreting them, like you did now ?
[14:45] <Incarus6> expedion, of course, a lot differs. If you love heavy-weighted beautiful desktops, then use KDE, if not gnome ;)
[14:45] <step21> isarl, sec
[14:45] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon_, perfect. I go to go ;)
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  in 11.04 they do i belive..
[14:45] <expedion> Heavy weighted? As in it takes alot of memory?
[14:45] <Dr_Willis> !info firefox
[14:45] <Antilect> !info flamewar
[14:45] <Stereocaulon_> Incarus6, have a lovely day :-D
[14:45] <Incarus6> expedion, ram and hd, yes ;)
[14:45] <Antilect> Same to you :)
[14:45] <Incarus6> Stereocaulon_, ty, you too ;)
[14:45] <expedion> I see
[14:46] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: okay I installed it yesterday, but I had wifi problems, so I got back to Maverik
[14:46] <Antilect> I live 64-bit ^^ Finally 12GB RAM, finally
[14:46] <Antilect> *love
[14:46] <Dr_Willis> !pae
[14:46] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, I agree, I'm using a PAE-Kernel ;)
[14:46] <Antilect> Any good channels on freenode worthy to hang in? :)
[14:46] <Antilect> except this shiny lot of course
[14:46] <Stereocaulon_> Antilect, and Ubuntu will always recommend to download the 32 bits edition, kind of conservative, don't you agree?
[14:47] <Dr_Willis> ive heard that the pae kernel is a bit slower then an actual 64bit kernel however.. (i never use pae)
[14:47] <coz_> Antilect,  this one is a good channel
[14:47] <thiebaude> ubuntu-offtopic, Antilect
[14:47] <medfly> hi, where does ubuntu normally mount a CD?
[14:47] <medfly> I am trying to mount an iso as a CD so that wine recognizes it by default :-D
[14:47] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, in /media/cdrom0
[14:47] <Sidewinder1> Antilect, You could always try #ubuntu-offtopic
[14:47] <medfly> thankyou
[14:47] <Incarus6> Dr_Willis, according to phoronix, sometimes the pae kernel is slower, and sometimes the "normal" kernel
[14:47] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, np
[14:48] <deshymers> can anybody recommend a hdd cloning tool?
[14:48] <Eduard> Guys, how do i bypass broken dependencies problem with nvidia-96 driver in 11.04?
[14:48] <Eduard> Maybe downgrade some packages?
[14:49] <anthony_> hi there.  I upgraded to 11.04 last night and had to reinstall deskbar-applet.  it seemed to install ok through apt-get but now I can't add it to the panel - it isn't there in the list.  any ideas?
[14:49] <Incarus6> Eduard, don't downgrade. normally it should work: http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/nvidia-96
[14:49] <Eduard> the error is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601333/
[14:49] <Stereocaulon_> deshymers, a hdd-cloning tool? you can use dd if it's not mounted but that's a bit low-level
[14:49] <Eduard> Incarus6: see the link
[14:50] <medfly> Stereocaulon_: sigh, doesn't seem to have the result I expected
[14:50] <Incarus6> Eduard, which mirror are you using?
[14:50] <Sidewinder1> Eduard, How 'bout Clonezilla?
[14:50] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, I'm used to Wine, what are you trying to achieve?
[14:50] <Eduard> Incarus6: dunno, out of the box default 11.04 install
[14:50] <deshymers> Stereocaulon_: kinda hoping for a tool that I can boot into from usb, need to take windows off one hdd and put ubuntu on that one
[14:50] <Guest25007> yahoo messanger
[14:50] <Eduard> Sedewinder1: whats CloneZilla?
[14:51] <medfly> Stereocaulon_: I have an ISO of a game. I want to open it up with wine.
[14:51] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: so if I understand, for software, we can install with a .deb file, with a make file or with a binary, and the binary is not system wide, right?
[14:51] <Vessago> hello every one... can anyone help me with squid3 config... please
[14:51] <Incarus6> Eduard, have a look at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/+bug/741930
[14:51] <Sidewinder1> Sorry,Ed, that was for deshymers...
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  if its in your users home.. it wont be for all users.
[14:51] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, just mount the ISO with cdemu
[14:51] <step21> isarl, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log (the end) for the driver used and something like dri = 1 or 'enabled or so
[14:51] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  its best to use the Repositories or PPA's
[14:51] <cousin_mario> hello
[14:51] <deshymers> Sidewinder1: I'll have a look thanks
[14:51] <cousin_mario> to whom should I report a probable installer bug?
[14:51] <Vessago> an getting proxy refusing connections
[14:52] <Sidewinder1> deshymers, OK
[14:52] <ajaytripi> Hello people... i need help regarding natty installation
[14:52] <Dr_Willis> !bugs | cousin_mario
[14:52] <Guest25007> how to download rynga in ununtu
[14:52] <medfly> Stereocaulon_: I mounted it with -o loop... what else must I do
[14:52] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: just post your question directly
[14:52] <medfly> it works that way
[14:52] <medfly> wine just doesn't recognize it :p
[14:52] <ajaytripi> i am getting an initramfs could not mount /dev/loop0 error while installing
[14:52] <cousin_mario> Dr_Willis: I'm not sure about the package, it's something in the installation procedure that doesn't work properly.
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> medfly:  wine  has its own configs where you can tell it to look for a 'fake' cd.
[14:53] <Guest25007> rynga
[14:53] <Guest25007> voice call
[14:53] <nerdshell> Dr_Willis: where do I have to put the binaries to be system wide? PPA do not download and install .deb ?
[14:53] <Guest21274> Hello. I've bought 3G wireless net. It's not supposed to need a password. On PCLOS it doesn't ask for one and connects automatically. But on Ubuntu it always asks for a password. The problem is, I do not know the password.
[14:53] <Incarus6> Eduard, have you tried the official driver from nvidia.com?
[14:53] <medfly> Dr_Willis: ah, okay, I think I found where
[14:53] <Eduard> Icarus6: not yet, you think i should try it
[14:53] <Guest21274> According to the provider there is no password
[14:53] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:   it would take some work - nomrlly such things go to /opt/
[14:53] <t0th> hi
[14:53] <t0th> i have a cronjob
[14:53] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, well, you can open Wine configuration and mount it specifically as a CDROM drive (try the button "Show Advanced")
[14:53] <Eduard> ?
[14:53] <isarl> step21: tail of /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows a lot of lines with "NOUEVEAU(0)" in them
[14:53] <Incarus6> Eduard, http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us
[14:54] <alienkid10> step21: back
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> nerdshell:  PPA's use debs . they are a expansion of the normal reposoptury system,
[14:54] <pfifo> Guest21274, try leaving the password field blank
[14:54] <t0th> * * * * * wget http://www.test.com/ > file
[14:54] <Guest21274> I've tried
[14:54] <t0th> why i have file file.1 file.2
[14:54] <ajaytripi> Dr_Willis: plz help... i am getting an initramfs could not mount /dev/loop0 error while installing
[14:54] <Guest21274> pfifo: I've tried
[14:54] <krad> root@vps:~# chroot /mnt/tmp/root, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory <-- how can i deal with that?
[14:54] <nerdshell> nerdshell: so the debs are actually the best and the easiest way, right?
[14:54] <Dr_Willis> ajaytripi:  means little to me. You did check the iso image befor and after burning?
[14:54] <step21> isarl, could be good ... could you paste it?
[14:54] <step21> alienkid10, hey
[14:54] <alienkid10> step21: any Idea if I can do anything?
[14:55] <isarl> step21: I also get (when grepping for "dri"), AIGLX: dlopen of /usr/lib32/dri/nouveau_dri.so failed
[14:55] <Eduard> Incarus: latest driver version for my card: 96.43.19 . It's the that was released to give ubuntu 10.10 support. No update to it yet...
[14:55] <alaing> newbie question any good easy editors that would allow me to open a apache log file from a ssh client command line?
[14:55] <ajaytripi> Dr_Willis: yes the cd is working properly on my desktop..
[14:55] <krad> /bin/bash exists
[14:55] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD <----- can someone pls have a look at my squid.conf and maybe tell me whats wrong, proxy is refusing connections..... thanks
[14:55] <romankrv> hi. I can selected something and click to middle button mouse But what is keyboard shortcut?
[14:55] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: why don't you try the upgrade ?
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> ajaytripi:  you mean it worked on a differnt machine?
[14:55] <isarl> step21: sec, I'll paste my entire /var/log/Xorg.0.log somewhere
[14:55] <alienkid10> step21: btw sdb1 is an NTFS partition
[14:55] <t0th> any?
[14:55] <quibbler> I've just done a fresh install of ubuntu 11.04 and I have no sound - I got sound working in 10.10 by uninstalling pulseaudio and installing alsa -does anyone know what I can do to try and get pulseaudio working in 11.04
[14:55] <ajaytripi> nerdshell:I am doing a fresh install... removed Windows
[14:55] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, and...did it work for you?
[14:56] <ajaytripi> Dr_Willis: yes
[14:56] <krad> root@vps:~# chroot /mnt/tmp/root, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory <-- how can i deal with that? /bin/bash exists!
[14:56] <medfly> hey!
[14:56] <Incarus6> Eduard, an Nouveau is not an option?
[14:56] <medfly> it works! ^_^
[14:56] <medfly> Stereocaulon_: I was about to say no, but it does now.
[14:56] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: when do you exactly get the error?
[14:56] <step21> isarl, try force reinstall all x-related packages? or at least reconfigure? does it say why it failed?
[14:56] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, what game are you installing?
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. pulse audio uses alsa. its a layer above alsa. so exactly what did you insrtall quibbler?
[14:56] <medfly> Stereocaulon_: diablo 2 :P
[14:56] <alienkid10> step21: sdb is ntfs 445gb partition with sdb2 a 20gb ext3 partition
[14:56] <krad> hi. i'm doing: root@vps:~# chroot /mnt/tmp/root, chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory <-- how can i deal with that? /bin/bash exists!
[14:56] <Guest21274> Anyone here familiar with connecting 3G?
[14:57] <ajaytripi> nerdshell: when booting from the cd.. it says cannot mount /dev/loop0 on //filesystem squashfs
[14:57] <alienkid10> sdb1 is ntfs*
[14:57] <Stereocaulon_> medfly, yes, that's a classic, it does contain DRM, so you might have some trouble with that.
[14:57] <Eduard> Incarus6: nouveau = oddly glitched cursor. If got ideas on how to fix that, i'll be happy to use it. Bcus now i booted 11.04 with nomodeset option
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> medfly:  you can copy all files from the iso to your wine's c: and install them from there. but that wont help disk copy protection
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> medfly:  no-cd fix's may be needed
[14:57] <isarl> step21: 803 lines of it, pasted here for your reading enrichment: pastebin.com/LtFEnHsY
[14:57] <medfly> Dr_Willis: it's okay, I just mounted it with -o loop and told wine it's a CD.
[14:57] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: sur the cd was not damaged, I did a fresh install quit several times, and I never got errors
[14:57] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD <---- any ideas
[14:58] <Incarus6> Eduard, you could unpack the deb file and copy every file to the right directory and hope that this will work
[14:58] <ajaytripi> nerdshell: yes.. i hav successfully installed natty from that cd on my desktop
[14:58] <step21> alienkid10, oh okay ... does it mention sdb2 somewhere in the logs? I don't see it
[14:58] <Incarus6> Eduard, or you change the dependencies of the deb, dont know how to do that
[14:58] <step21> isarl, reading
[14:58] <alienkid10> step21: will look
[14:58] <Guest21274> is there a net work manager better than the default?
[14:59] <alienkid10> step21: yes
[14:59] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: sur you burned the right OSI, the 32 or the 64?
[14:59] <welloonger> never choose x64...
[14:59] <Stereocaulon_> Guest21274, please tell me what kind of trouble you are running into instead of just dismissing a program please.
[14:59] <ajaytripi> nerdshell: yes both my systems are 32- bit and so is the cd
[14:59] <quibbler> after a fresh install of 11.04, i installed vlc,pigin, xchat ,thunderbird,skype, however from the start I had no sound
[15:00] <Vessago> anyone keen to help me with squid3 config... please !
[15:00] <alienkid10> says it mounted on  various lines
[15:00] <Incarus6> I g2g, hope that helped you, Eduard
[15:00] <pfifo> welloonger, what if you have 32GB of memory?
[15:00] <alienkid10> I think this file has some really old boots in it though
[15:00] <Eduard> Incarus6: helped a bit... thanks
[15:00] <Guest21274> Stereocaulon: I bought a wireless 3G usb thing. With PCLOS I can just plug it in and I have net. But with Ubuntu is always tells me I need a password. The provider says there is no password.
[15:00] <alienkid10> step21: says it mounted on  various lines
[15:00] <Incarus6> quibbler, unmute the sound
[15:01] <welloonger> ****has joined #ubuntu *****has queit....
[15:01] <quibbler> it is unmuted
[15:01] <Vessago> squid help please anyone.....
[15:01] <nerdshell> (appears that this Natty creats a lot of havoc)
[15:01] <MustardCU> with what?
[15:01] <terry> idefix: see my PM
[15:01] <ajaytripi> nerdshell: any ideas???
[15:01] <Eduard> How do i downgrade 11.04 to X.Org xserver 1.9
[15:01] <welloonger> squid is a good thing..
[15:01] <Stereocaulon_> Guest21274, what if you just leave the pasword field empty?
[15:01] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: I don't see what you could do but burning a new OSI...
[15:01] <Vessago> yes but need help wilth this config http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD
[15:02] <nerdshell> ajaytripi: sorry
[15:02] <step21> alienkid10, but no errors with regard to it?
[15:02] <ajaytripi> nerdshell: ok.. I think I should try
[15:02] <Vessago> somehow ive got something wrong and it refusing connections
[15:02] <Guest21274> it continues to demand a password. I've tried all sort of numbers from my contract, even my own password. Nothing works and I can find no setting that says "no password"
[15:02] <step21> alienkid10, anything 'not found' or 'couldn't access'?
[15:02] <Vessago> just cant seem to figure out what.
[15:02] <alaing> newbie question any good easy editors that would allow me to open view an apache log file from a ssh client command line?
[15:02] <Incarus6> Eduard, I advise you against doing that
[15:02] <Stereocaulon_> quibble, I have sound, but I did notice that the default sound level in Natty was quite low, you can change it from the Volume indicator
[15:02] <isarl> alaing: try nano?
[15:03] <isarl> alaing: personally, I like vim ;)
[15:03] <Stereocaulon_> isarl, me too
[15:03] <alienkid10> step21:  no just mounted with order data mode barriars not enabled and using internal journal
[15:03] <Guest21274> Stereocaulon: it continues to demand a password. I've tried all sort of numbers from my contract, even my own password. Nothing works and I can find no setting that says "no password"
[15:03] <step21> alienkid10, any other errors?
[15:03] <pfifo> Guest21274, iwconf is far superior to network-manager and if you maste it youll know exactly whats going on ;)
[15:03] <pfifo> Guest21274, `iwconfig`
[15:04] <pepie34> Hi, I've updated from maverick two computers, only on one PC I've got a problem with ubuntu classic desktop: I can not anymore rearrange task in the taskbar, nor drag and drop file to a task in the task bar. Any idea ?
[15:04] <step21> isarl, could you check if it missed to install any nouveau/dri/glx packages?
[15:04] <alienkid10> step21: any text I should search for specifically?
[15:04] <Guest21274> pfifo: can I get this from synaptic?
[15:04] <isarl> step21: sure - which package names am I looking for?
[15:04] <someone235> hi, dya familiar with an application that i can test with the "test drive". I'm curious about this feature
[15:04] <krad> now that i did chroot .. how can I check why the box wasn't booting .. someone apparently installed upstart and removed it .. broke things
[15:04] <step21> alienkid10, anything that looks like an error or 'no such file, no access, etc.
[15:04] <alienkid10> step21: nothing I can see besides that one from before about  Apr 29 17:46:28 adam-Ubuntu 83haiku: debug: Stage 1 bootloader not found: exiting
[15:04] <alaing> thanks isarl
[15:04] <gwallace42> Quick Question, how do I add apps to the upper panel on 11.04
[15:04] <pfifo> Guest21274, you already have it, its network-managers back end, check `man iwconfig` for usage, expect todo some reading/learning
[15:05] <Jeruvy> if an upgrade fails, where do you look for the error logs?
[15:05] <Guest21274> pfifo: ok, thanks
[15:05] <terry> pfifo: I've replaced network-manager with wicd and like it better.  It is simplier / easier to use.
[15:05] <Stereocaulon_> Jeruvy, try /var/log/dist-upgrade/apt.log and main.log
[15:05] <Vessago> anyone checking my squidconf ....?
[15:05] <alienkid10> step: http://pastebin.com/sC4FzuRc
[15:05] <Jeruvy> Stereocaulon_: thanks.
[15:05] <XZargX> Is anyone successfully using the Asus p8p67 MB (the basic board not pro or deluxe)  with Natty. Thinking of buying one...
[15:06] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD
[15:06] <pmitros> I just installed Ubuntu 11.04. Virtually everything broke. Wireless network no longer works. Wired network no longer works. Windows randomly turn white. Visual effects take forever. I've been running Debian+Ubuntu for close to 15 years now, and have never run into a release this buggy. Do any of you know if there are good documents anywhere on everything broken in 11.04, and how to fix it?
[15:06] <step21> alienkid10, can you past me some lines before the'bootloader not found'
[15:06] <Osmodivs> Hello. How can I download the new Ubuntu 11.04 ISO via wget? I type wget -c http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download But it only downloads the wbpage, not the ISO, and I want the 64bit ISO
[15:06] <pfifo> XZargX, I was helping a guy last night that just installed to that board
[15:06] <alienkid10> step21: http://pastebin.com/sC4FzuRc nothing about no access
[15:07] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD < --- awainting help pls
[15:07] <alienkid10> step21: and those are the only instenses of file not found
[15:07] <pfifo> XZargX, actually he had 2 of them working so thats a pretty good sign
[15:07] <step21> alienkid10, mmh okay. well I can only offer to look at the whole logs, otherwise I am out of ideas atm
[15:07] <gumus> hi all
[15:08] <XZargX> pfifo - good news. It sounded like it should but some posts I read hinted at network LAN issues
[15:08] <Stereocaulon_> Vessago, why don't you try the #squid channel? 51 logged in right now
[15:08] <Barridus> umm, can compiz/compositing be turned off in unity?
[15:08] <gumus> i'm having trouble while trying to mount to software database
[15:08] <gumus> can anybody help with that?
[15:08] <alienkid10> step21: want me to try to boot to Ubuntu now so I know when the boot process actually starts?
[15:08] <quibbler> Dr_Willis-> i installed the Gnome Alsa Mixer and played around with that and it solved the problem. Thank you for the tip
[15:09] <jrib> Flynsarmy: what command are you executing exactly?
[15:09] <step21> isarl, is lbdrm-nouveau1a installed?
[15:09] <pfifo> XZargX, he mentioned slow package downloads from the repo but i dismissed it due to high usage of the repos after releases
[15:09] <jkgeyti> Hi. I cannot seem to be able to configure my HP trackpoint (touchstyk?) in 11.04. Changing mouse speed doesn't affect it, and I cannot seem to configure it correctly in my xorg settings. Any ideas?
[15:09] <Vessago> Stereocaulon i have no response from any of those 50 odd guys
[15:09] <step21> alienkid10, sure, can't hurt :)
[15:09] <Abhijit> hi
[15:09] <alienkid10> ok
[15:09] <gumus> i used to mount -t cifs -o user= etc. etc.
[15:09] <alienkid10> brb
[15:09] <isarl> step21: there are several "nvidia-glx-(stuff)" packages not installed. libdrm-nouveau1a is installed.
[15:09] <ForceDestroyer> Does anyone here know whether I can "disable Compiz desktop effects" in ubuntu, and what that means?
[15:09] <gumus> it says
[15:09] <gumus> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on
[15:09] <Abhijit> what is the size of the lamp package? i can not do it by apt-cache policy. help?
[15:09] <Stereocaulon_> Vessago, just wait a while ,keep yourself logged in
[15:09] <XZargX> pfifo - thanks for the info
[15:10] <Vessago> coolies will do thanks.
[15:10] <gumus> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on //yazilim.cc.itu.edu.tr/yazilim,
[15:10] <gumus>        missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[15:10] <gumus>        (for several filesystems (e.g. nfs, cifs) you might     need a /sbin/mount.<type> helper program)
[15:10] <gumus>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[15:10] <gumus>        dmesg | tail  or so
[15:10] <FloodBot3> gumus: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:10] <gumus> ok. sorry
[15:10] <krad> someone installed upstart and removed it .. the system hangs at booting .. is there a way to revert things to before upstart was installed?
[15:10] <step21> isarl, no, those are bad ...
[15:10] <Flynsarmy> jrib: I've done a bit of research/debugging. I'm currently using sudo mount -t cifs //10.0.0.20/C /media/desktop/c -o Guest,rw,nounix,iocharset=utf8,file_mode=0777,dir_mode=0777 user guest never worked but Guest makes it as far as asking for a password. Also on the windows machine I set it to 'People without a user account and password for this computer can access folder shared with everyone'
[15:10] <Barridus> i guess nobody knows how to disable compiz/compositing in natty?
[15:10] <Guest21274> pfifo: I just checked out iwconfig. Honestly, I don't have the time or inclination for reading and studying such. It would be easier to just do a simple reinstall. But here's the thing: one Ubuntu I can get my printer working easily where on PCLOS I cannot. On PCLOS I can get my #G working easily where on Ubuntu I cannot. I really don't have time to sit down and study.
[15:11] <terry> krad: upstart is installed by default
[15:11] <step21> isarl, is xserver-xorg-video-nv still installed? if yes, try to remove
[15:11] <terry> !upstart | krad
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  ive seen applets and commands to do it.. but never needed to.
[15:11] <aLky> is it just me or this unity is horrible? :)
[15:11] <Abhijit> help. for downloading reasoni need to know the size of hte apache2 package. how should i?
[15:11] <glda19> HOW used pam
[15:11] <Dr_Willis> aLky:  its a work in progress.
[15:11] <isarl> step21: it is.  Reboot after remove?
[15:11] <jw_> I have a quick but irgent question I'm doing a fresh install and got an error while installing GRUB its asking for where to install it? I have 4 options one of them being my windows 7 partition, any ideas???
[15:11] <ForceDestroyer> Barridus: apparently I would also like to disable compiz, although I don't even know what it is. Someone told me this might be a workaround for certain windows disappearing
[15:11] <jw_> 11.04
[15:12] <step21> isarl, yes, or restart x, but restart is prob easier
[15:12] <Dr_Willis> jw_ the mbr of the disk you plan on booting. ie: sda  if you only have 1 hd.
[15:12] <jkgeyti> ForceDestroyer, Barnabas: unity relies on compiz, so I doubt there's a way to do it. You could replace it by replaceing unity with gnome.
[15:12] <Barridus> ForceDestroyer, compiz is the nifty graphics effects
[15:12] <terry> krad: Are you saying upstart by mistake? (Typo maybe?)
[15:12] <jkgeyti> disable it*
[15:12] <Stereocaulon_> brb
[15:12] <linux_> brb
[15:12] <pfifo> Guest21274, terry offered up wicd, maybe thats worth a shot, ive never used it though
[15:12] <Barridus> i see a package called unity-2d, which appears to be an alternate unity without acceleration
[15:12] <krad> sorry?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> Barridus:  thats correct. I use unity2d on some of my machines
[15:13] <jw_> DR_Willis: I have a RAID and I'm just not sure which partition to install it to? Linux device mapper, Windows 7 or RAIDp6 or RAIDp7
[15:13] <alienkid10> step21: I need to go
[15:13] <terry> krad: Did you un-install upstart?
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> unity2d does not use compiz. I think it also uses the QT libs. (not sure where i read that at)
[15:13] <krad> terry, yes
[15:13] <Dr_Willis> jw_:  no idea on raid.
[15:13] <step21> alienkid10, sure. sorry that it didn't work so far
[15:13] <alienkid10> step21: I'll PM you my email address email me
[15:13] <step21> alienkid10, not sure if I can helpt but sure
[15:14] <al_cell> Whats the difference betn unity2d and classic gnome?
[15:14] <krad> terry, how can i test if the booting sequence is ok?
[15:14] <superlinux> hi. to all arabs in this channel, a lesson IN ARABIC will be given after 2 hours from now on this FREENODE server @ channel #linuxac . lesson will be in using and configuring the /etc/fstab file and the mount command and basic formatting of disks, NO RAID NO LVM is going to be discussed. thanks.
[15:14] <terry> krad: Oh, I see.  ... hummm not sure what to do now..  Where does it hang on bootup?  Where are you at now?
[15:14] <aLky> Dr_Willis, i know, but I its just not me (i dont like macos). Do you know when can we expect an ubuntu version that comes with gnome3?
[15:14] <isarl> step21: remember that kernel panic from earlier..?
[15:14] <krad> terry, i managed to boot: "The rescue mode installs a temporary Slackware distro on a separate partition, gives it your IP,and then mounts your main disk to make it available:"
[15:14] <terry> krad: If you can... just re-install it.
[15:15] <Dr_Willis> aLky:  no idea. Perhaps never by default..
[15:15] <krad> terry, is there a boot log somewhere in ubuntu?
[15:15] <step21> isarl, argh. okay ...
[15:15] <krad> just wana see where it hangs
[15:15] <superlinux> repeat:
[15:15] <superlinux> hi. to all arabs in this channel, a lesson IN ARABIC will be given after 2 hours from now on this FREENODE server @ channel #linuxac . lesson will be in using and configuring the /etc/fstab file and the mount command and basic formatting of disks, NO RAID NO LVM is going to be discussed. thanks.
[15:15] <isarl> step21: to be clear, this kernel panic happened during startup after the reboot.  second reboot underway now.
[15:15] <aLky> Dr_Willis, why do you think so? Are they planning to move to unity and leave gnome?
[15:15] <superlinux> ok thanks bye
[15:15] <bazhang> superlinux, dont advertise here
[15:15] <isarl> step21: and seems to have disappeared.
[15:15] <lcb> superlinux, we saw that already, thanks
[15:15] <terry> krad: So you booted from a Slackware CD?  Is that what you are saying?
[15:15] <pfifo> krad, if you dont want to reinstall you can chroot into the install and add upstart back
[15:15] <step21> lol
[15:16] <isarl> step21: transient behaviour, perhaps.  :D
[15:16] <krad> i chrooted into the install
[15:16] <Dr_Willis> aLky:  the blog/discussions  basically they will stick with Unity for the time being. unity does run on top of gnome. Its an alternative shell to the gnome3 shell.
[15:16] <raven_> how to set EXIF-Date and time from filename?
[15:16] <terry> krad: Yea, as pfifo says, just re-install upstart.  sudo apt-get install upstart
[15:16] <isarl> step21: Okay, at my desktop again.  Once again, no compositing.  Want a fresh Xorg.0.log?
[15:16] <kkal> Dr_Willis: as a form of punishment for something?
[15:16] <cousin_mario> natty is so much fail
[15:16] <pfifo> sudo in a chroot
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  theres exif tools in the repos. you may nbeed to write a script  for the task.
[15:17] <terry> pfifo: well, just apt-get install upstart
[15:17] <d1gital> has there even been such complaining about an Ubuntu release?
[15:17] <kkal> unity.launcher forgets that it has running instances of google-chrome and launches new ones every time.
[15:17] <maddie> I've been looking for an answer for two days now and have come up with nothing. Essentially the launcher icons revert to default upon every damn login even when I uncheck them or check new ones!
[15:17] <Abhijit> help. for downloading reasoni need to know the size of hte apache2 package. how should i?
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> !info apache2
[15:17] <krad> terry, upstart wasnt there .. and the system was booting until it was installed
[15:17] <pfifo> krad, tack on a `dpkg-reconfigure upstart` once your nstall upstart just to be safe
[15:18] <krad> until it was installed/uninstalled
[15:18] <maddie> Does anyone understand what could be wrong?
[15:18] <Dr_Willis> Abhijit:  its a meta package. so it will be the size of whatever it needs to pull in. which will depend on what you allready have installed.
[15:18] <terry> pfifo:  what did you have installed in the first place?  What distro, what version?
[15:18] <isarl> step21: Interesting.  Xorg.0.log says at one point, "Matched nvidia as autoconfigured driver 0"
[15:18] <aLky> Dr_Willis, yeah I know that. Unity is more suitable for netbooks with small screens. I hope they still keep supporting the gnome3 shell too.
[15:18] <pfifo> krad, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[15:18] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, can i get its .deb anywhere?
[15:18] <isarl> step21: before proceeding to nouveau, nv, vesa, and fbdev, in that order.
[15:18] <step21> isarl, mmh, sorry, but not sure what to try now either and I should get going
[15:18] <terry> krad:  what did you have installed in the first place?  What distro, what version?
[15:18] <krad> pfifo, terry, http://pastebin.com/pc6qrj5h
[15:18] <step21> isarl, it did that before as well
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> Abhijit:  the .deb would be pointless. all the deb does is 'depend' on other packages.. you would need all the packagves it depends on as well. or else you download them when you install the deb.
[15:19] <isarl> step21: Alright; thank you very much for all your help. =)
[15:19] <maddie> I've been looking for an answer for two days now and have come up with nothing. Essentially the launcher icons revert to default upon every damn login even when I uncheck them or check new ones! Does anyone have an Idea?
[15:19] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, ok
[15:19] <step21> d1gital, there is always complaining :)
[15:19] <pfifo> krad, thats not a fail condition, your still ok
[15:19] <raven_> Dr_Willis, which exif tool for example?
[15:19] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, i have lamp installed in my this system. is there any way i can copy paste this apache2 server to friends laptop? only apache server that is
[15:20] <krad> how can i know which version of ubuntu i'm running.  uname -a doesnt give it
[15:20] <step21> maddie, are you using the livecd?
[15:20] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, friend also have ubuntu
[15:20] <ph88> how do i setup my connectiong to connect through a proxy server ?
[15:20] <iceroot> krad: cat /etc/issue
[15:20] <maddie> step 21, nope
[15:20] <krad> 9.04
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  apt-cache search exif      theres several of them i recall seeing. I rarely use them
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> !aptoncd | Abhijit
[15:20] <raven_> Dr_Willis, ok tnx
[15:20] <Stereocaulon_> krad, whoa, that's ancient
[15:20] <terry> krad: dpkg -i upstart
[15:20] <maddie> step 21, I used the update manager
[15:21] <krad> Errors were encountered while processing:
[15:21] <krad>  upstart
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Abhijit:  if you are on the same lan. You can set up an apt-cacher-ng server to cach all the packagfes for the whole lan. and save download time/ussage
[15:21] <iceroot> terry: what should that command do?
[15:21] <step21> maddie, good luck, but no idea then
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> !9.04
[15:21] <tsanko> hI
[15:21] <terry> iceroot: install upstart
[15:21] <oneliner> hello there, graphical interface completely haywire in 11.04 on my machine, id like to try and force default options to see if its a compiz thing before looking at graphics drivers
[15:21] <tsanko> eVERY ONE
[15:21] <iceroot> terry: not really
[15:21] <krad> root@vps:/# dpkg -i upstart, dpkg: error processing upstart (--install): cannot access archive: No such file or directory, Errors were encountered while processing: upstart
[15:21] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, but sadly i have now cleaned the apt cache. so i dont have those packages. so aptoncd is not helpful. any other way?
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> Abhijit:  download them again. if they are gone.. they are gone.
[15:22] <iceroot> terry: dpkg -i wants local deb-files
[15:22] <ph88> how can i make a connection through a proxy server ?
[15:22] <Gnea> !ppa
[15:22] <Abhijit> Dr_Willis, ok
[15:22] <iceroot> terry: maybe you mean "sudo apt-get install packagename"
[15:22] <terry> iceroot: O
[15:22] <maddie> step21, okay, do you know of any helpful resources other than askubuntu, this irc, /r/linuxquestions, asklinux, ubuntu forums, and the ubuntu launchpad?
[15:22] <Stereocaulon_> krad, what kind of processor and how much mem do you have do you have in that box running 9.04?
[15:23] <iceroot> ph88: on what? your browser? the shell?
[15:23] <ph88> i have ubuntu 11.04 i would like to use a proxy to redirect all traffic of a certain network interface
[15:23] <brian_> pfifo: wicd worked. Thanks.
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> ph88:  clarify that. Im not sure a proxy does that sort of task..
[15:24] <brian_> Terry: Wicd worked, thanks
[15:24] <pfifo> brian_, that was all terry
[15:24] <jrib> Flynsarmy: so it works now?
[15:24] <brian_> pfifo: I'm glad you pointed his advice out. I cannot keep up with the traffic here. :)
[15:24] <Tuplad> How can I get "glx" support ? I'm trying to install unity, but with no success. nvidia drivers just won't work.
[15:24] <tsanko> This chat room is for help
[15:25] <tsanko> ?
[15:25] <pfifo> !yay | brian_
[15:25] <Flynsarmy> jrib: no. i can get as far as it asking me for a password now. but still says permission denied when i just press enter without typing anything
[15:25] <ph88> i want to use my nokia n900 as modem, but i can't get it to connect, the vodafone information page says i need to use a proxy, but i don't know where to enter this information
[15:25] <iceroot> tsanko: correct
[15:25] <iandi> Hello! I'm having problems installing ubuntu 11.04 from usb, this has worked flawlessly with the previous releases. All i get is busybox i cant get into the install shell
[15:25] <terry> brian_: np
[15:25] <tsanko> ohhh i think it was for chating
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  whats your video chipset?
[15:26] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: Geforce GT540M
[15:26] <pfifo> iandi, tru using a different USB port
[15:26] <santi> Hello! I'd like to add my IPv6 Tunnel from HE with this command: "ifconfig sit0 inet6 tunnel ::216.66.84.46", and I get as answer only: "SIOCSIFDSTADDR: Kein Hauptspeicher für den Puffer verfügbar"
[15:26] <jrib> Flynsarmy: should be your sudo password, no?
[15:26] <lopyshok> hi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i ca't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;)
[15:26] <lcb> ph88, http://goo.gl/X1dxK
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38449/unity-desktop-does-not-load-it-switches-to-classic-mode
[15:26] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  the drivers from the repos dont work? You could try the answers given here --> ^^^
[15:26] <iandi> pfifo: will do, ill get back to you
[15:26] <brian_> ubottu: me too! It saves me from reinstalling and having to figure out the whole rpm thing. :D
[15:27] <oneliner> i have the weirdest errors on the graphicall interface; although i have two 21" lcds coupled to a decent nvidia card, all and any program windows open at 800X600 , snapped to the upper left corner, unmovable, unresizable
[15:27] <marcelC> http://pastebin.com/0DH2Ed3L
[15:27] <ph88> i will have a look lcb
[15:27] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: I don't think they work, because I can't access nvidia settings and I can't install unity.
[15:27] <lopyshok> hi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i ca't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;)
[15:27] <oneliner> and there s no sidebar icons thingy
[15:27] <lcb> ph88, that's a pretty explanatory tuto
[15:27] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  you are upgradeing? or what exactly? theres Unity-2d you could use I guess
[15:28] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: fresh install, I want Unity-3d, not 2d :D
[15:28] <Flynsarmy> jrib: ahh yes you're correct. still getting error(13) permission denied though
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> oneliner:  unity seem to have some issues with multi monitor support. sounds like its just crashing on you
[15:28] <maddie>  I've been looking for an answer for two days now and have come up with nothing. Essentially the launcher icons revert to default upon every damn login even when I uncheck them or check new ones! Does anyone have an Idea?
[15:28] <trihope> KM0201: how are you doing this morning?
[15:28] <ph88> lcb i don't want to setup a proxy server, i want to connect to a proxy server provided by my internet provider
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> Tuplad:  unity is installed by default.. and it needs the 3d drivers..
[15:28] <aLky> guys do you know of software (like logmein, teamviewer, easypcgate) to login remotely to an ubuntu machine (without real ip)?
[15:28] <marcelC> I have some upgrade problems, anyone get some ideea? http://pastebin.com/0DH2Ed3L
[15:29] <isarl> Hi all; I seem to be having some troubles with nouveau.  Any help?
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> aLky:  teamviewer exists for ubuntu/linux
[15:29] <Tuplad> Dr_Willis: exactly, everything is installed, but it doesn't work. GLX doesn't seem to work and I can't make it work :(
[15:29] <oneliner> Dr_Willis: should i use a non unity launcher or should i offer myself as guinea pig for the dev teams? :)
[15:29] <jester40> Hello to everyone
[15:29] <terry> maddie: Can you rephrase  your question?
[15:29] <aLky> Dr_Willis, didnt know that. Thank you very much
[15:29] <Dr_Willis> oneliner:  personally - im testing out Lubuntu  for the time being.
[15:29] <lopyshok> hi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i can't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;) on the panel ( where start<he is)
[15:29] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD
[15:30] <cousin_mario> marcelC: why are you using backports in the first place?
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> lopyshok:  try alt-tab to see if it pops up?
[15:30] <jester40> Can anybody help me setup my wireless card
[15:30] <Mahjongg> hi, apply button in synaptic does not become active after marking the items under residual config as complete removal
[15:30] <cousin_mario> it sounds like a recipe for trouble
[15:30] <Dr_Willis> BBL
[15:30] <Barridus> is gwibber nonfunctional?  i can't get any tweets
[15:30] <enrylinux> problema iso ubuntu 11.04
[15:30] <marcelC> cousin_mario, for some other packeges I got installed related to apache, sql.mysql,wordpress etc
[15:31] <lcb> info connect-proxy  | ph88
[15:31] <cousin_mario> marcelC: I would disable those repositories during the upgrade process
[15:31] <lcb> !info connect-proxy  | ph88
[15:31] <marcelC> oky
[15:31] <lopyshok> Dr_willis can't ;(
[15:31] <lopyshok> =('
[15:31] <ph88> ok thx
[15:31] <oneliner> ok so i need to create a couple of launchers on the desktop, if any one could give me a hand with the actual command for launching a new terminal window and compiz configurator id apreciate
[15:31] <lopyshok> hi people help me. i open exe file,it's open but i can't see him... he is behind work table...aaaa ;) on the panel ( where start<he is) HElp me ;)
[15:31] <eltigre> I am having trouble with the unity interface... before upgrading I was able to use the Empathy chat client
[15:31] <Tuplad> Anyone knows how to activate GLX ? Can't seem to get it right, Unity etc. doesn't work.
[15:32] <pfifo> oneliner, the first is `/usr/bin/gnome-terminal`
[15:32] <eltigre> now my accounts don't connect and I can't find any way to change my accounts
[15:32] <maddie> terry hmm well... maybe that's part of my problem. okay, on a fresh install of 11.04 unity there are default icons (these inclide libreoffice, ubuntu one, etc) When I try to modify these, as in remove them form the launcher or add new ones to the launcher, all is well until I log back in - the same default sequence is there (libreoffice, ubuntu one)
[15:32] <terry> oneliner: I usually just set F12 as hotkey for terminal.
[15:32] <eltigre> Also, how am I supposed to find settings in unity anyway??
[15:32] <maddie> terry sorry for grammar mistakes it's early
[15:32] <lcb> eltigre, sudo dpkg-reconfigure empathy
[15:32] <pfifo> eltigre, its in the power menu, top right
[15:32] <oneliner> pfifo thanks terry thats actually a good idea
[15:33] <eltigre> ah ok sorry
[15:33] <Barridus> eltigre, click on the "shut down" icon in the upper right, system settings is in there now for some reason
[15:33] <Barridus> (not a trick i promise XD)
[15:33] <raven_> FileDates to EXIF: need to write exif dates by using the last-modified-date - how?
[15:33] <eltigre> yes
[15:33] <eltigre> thank you
[15:34] <eltigre> at the moment the interface freaks me out because all the panels are missing
[15:34] <glda19> how used pam pkcs11
[15:34] <Linuxfav> upon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?
[15:34] <jrib> Flynsarmy: what happens with lowercase "guest"?
[15:34] <Flynsarmy> jrib: same thing. error 13 - permission denied
[15:35] <jrib> Flynsarmy: can you access the share elsewhere?  Like from another windows machine?
[15:35] <terry> Linuxfav: What screen do you have now?
[15:35] <lopyshok> i can't see exe file what is possiable
[15:35] <lopyshok> ?
[15:35] <Linuxfav> terry:Ubuntu classic(no effect)
[15:36] <tjiggi_fo> !ru | lopyshok
[15:36] <docmur> Is there any application to convert videos for the ipod
[15:36] <terry> Linuxfav: what display card do you have?
[15:36] <Rockj> Anyone uses Deja Dup? does it require a lot of tmp storage?
[15:36] <terry> docmur: From __________  to ___________?    From .mov to .avi or....? what?
[15:36] <emj> how do I get a  VNC connection to my fathers ubuntu desktop? I need to help him install som programs for internet Tax filing...
[15:37] <pfifo> !ffmpeg | docmur
[15:37] <some_dude1234> hi all
[15:37] <pfifo> !info ffmpeg | docmur
[15:37] <Linuxfav> terry:I have done the unity support test and it says unity is supported.....my graphics card is>>>02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)
[15:37] <terry> emj: install x11vnc on his PC and use vncviewer on yours.  (Install tightvnc on yours.)
[15:37] <raven_> FileDates to EXIF: need to write exif dates by using the last-modified-date - how?
[15:37] <Antilect> :)
[15:37] <emj> terry: no default ubuntu remoet support app?
[15:37] <Gnea> !vbox
[15:37] <Rockj> emj: requires you to open the port on his router, or you running a lisntning daemon which he can invite.
[15:38] <terry> emj: They are both Ubuntu?
[15:38] <enrylinux> 11:04 iso installation problem stops, but nothing I tried different iso pc works perfectly I also made ​​a test with an old iso of ubuntu 9.10 and that works perfectly
[15:38] <emj> terry: sure
[15:38] <ranger03> i am getting the idea that unity cannot be customized at all. I really need my 8 virtual windows..not 4...can i change it back to 8 ?
[15:38] <terry> emj: Ok. Rocky can prolly help you.
[15:38] <Rockj> emj: I normally use Teamviewer ( www.teamviewer.com ) , free for personal use and always works thru firewalls etc and works towards all OS.
[15:38] <Rockj> emj: but if your looking for a permanent solution, opening port and fix vnc would be better.
[15:38] <emj> Rockj: Firewall is no problem they are all Linux soo.. :-)
[15:38] <cousin_mario> bye
[15:39] <some_dude1234> I just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and surprise surprise, the most important thing stopped working (wireless). I have an Intellinet USB Adapter for the wlan. It worked fine in 10.10 and also here in 11.04. Networkmanager does show me the ESSID's around but I cannot connect to my WPA/PSK encrypted accesspoint. Any hints or further information needed, I would appreciate your help. Thank you
[15:39] <terry> Linuxfav: And you have installed Nvidia driver on it?
[15:39] <emj> Rockj: but I'll accept that solution.
[15:39] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD
[15:39] <ph88> but this is cute :) http://www.betavine.net/bvportal/resources/datacards/netbooks/eeepc
[15:39] <siebo> I'm getting an error when trying to install openssl in karmic
[15:39] <siebo> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssl/openssl_0.9.8g-16ubuntu3.1_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.166 80]
[15:39] <Flynsarmy> jrib: hmm. can't access from XP. guess it's on the Win7 side. will look further into it i guess. Thanks for the help
[15:39] <emj> Rockj: wish there was a GUI for it though.. :-)
yes the propietary driver
[15:40] <Rockj> emj: for vlc? there is plenty ..
[15:40] <bulk12> !female
[15:40] <bulk12> !male
[15:40] <bulk12> !hooker
[15:40] <Rockj> emj: s/vlc/vnc/ ;)
[15:40] <bulk12> Oh, well.
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> !fisn | bulk12
[15:40] <FloodBot3> bulk12: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:40] <terry> Linuxfav: Do you think that bypassing the proprietary driver will help?
[15:40] <siebo> here's the whole error output: http://pastie.org/1850658
[15:40] <raven_> FileDates to EXIF: need to write exif dates by using the last-modified-date - how?
[15:40] <LjL> bulk12: please don't
[15:40] <Dr_Willis> !fishing | bulk12
[15:40] <emj> Rockj: :-) That doesn't make things easier. (but indeed vlc does need a GUI)
[15:41] <bulk12> k guys All is fine
[15:41] <HTCPX> Should I enable hyperthreading or not?
i dont know....those drivers worked perfectly well before
[15:41] <bulk12> I didn't break anything. keep up the good work
[15:41] <kornicameister> anyone with scilab expierence here ?
[15:41] <terry> Linuxfav: sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak   #Will bypass it.
[15:41] <ranger03> 15 icons on the right menu bar is nowhere near enough functionality for linux power users. I need more virtual windows, or customize Unity, or Ubuntu 11.04 will be reformatted off my system.
[15:41] <enrylinux> qualcuno parla italiano
[15:42] <terry> Linuxfav: And will put you back on the open-source driver.
[15:42] <oneliner_> swel! thing thing is totally surrealistic
[15:42] <tjiggi_fo> !it | enrylinux
[15:42] <siebo> nm, just needed to do an apt-get update...
[15:42] <some_dude1234> I just upgraded from ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 and surprise surprise, the most important thing stopped working (wireless). I have an Intellinet USB Adapter for the wlan. It worked fine in 10.10 and also here in 11.04. Networkmanager does show me the ESSID's around but I cannot connect to my WPA/PSK encrypted accesspoint. Any hints or further information needed, I would appreciate your help. Thank you
[15:42] <Rockj> emj: GUI for setting up vnc server? If your using gnome your finding that under system - preferences - remote desktop  (that should be vnc I think)
[15:42] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  perhaps this can do that.. (it seems to do the reverse from its description) --> renrot - Rename and rotate files according to EXIF tags
[15:42] <Rockj> emj: if your looking for a GUI client for VNC, try  apt-get install xvnc4viewer
[15:42] <PalinBachman2012> im getting 404's trying to install some programs
and if that does not worked....how i revert back....just copy it back to where it was?
[15:43] <Rockj> emj: anyhow, what was the issue and I'll try to help more directly to your problem.  :)
[15:43] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  also pyrenamer is a bulk rname tool. it comes up when i search for exif, it may have some features
[15:43] <warp_> Hi everybody
[15:43] <puckipedia> Hi
[15:43] <lcb> emj, my 2 tokens; TeamViewer (graphical) or putty + ssh (CLI)
[15:43] <dynoboyz> hi
[15:43] <terry> some_dude1234: Turn off encryption on the router and try it.
[15:43] <oneliner_> i would like to try to get to a proper visual configuration for a multi monitor display, i think the first thing is ; compiz complains there is already a window manager running for the display set "0.0" i wonder: how can i know which manager that is?
[15:43] <Rockj> lcb: agree, TeamViewer is such a breeze to use.
[15:43] <iandi> pfifo: check here for error http://twitpic.com/4rgyk1
[15:44] <puckipedia> How can you close a window in irssi?
[15:44] <raven_> Dr_Willis,  possible but i cannot find the option to read out the last-modified dates
[15:44] <muneeb> hi..  i'm having problem with minimize maximize buttons.. they don't glow when i hover over them.. any help??
[15:44] <silvery> hi, how can I upgrade 10.10 to 11.04 (both 32x) using alternate CD?
[15:44] <terry> puckipedia: /leave
[15:44] <lcb> Rockj, yeap, with the advantage of being used from everywhere
[15:44] <puckipedia> thanks
[15:44] <terry> puckipedia: If it is a pm   /q
[15:44] <ouyes> sorry to ask again, after a lot of search via google and ubuntuforums, I still cannot find a version suitable for my laptop thinkpad x201, should I get 10.04 and make a lot of configurations myself during the installation?
[15:44] <puckipedia> k
[15:44] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, which GPU do you have?
[15:44] <Rockj> lcb: mhm, and it runs on "any" OS. (at least the most common ones ;))
[15:44] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  if you can find a command to change the tags from the command line. You could write a script to read the file name, and parse the name and set the exif info. I dont see any exif writeing tools in my quick looking at the package manager.
[15:45] <lcb> Rockj, :)
[15:45] <pfifo> iandi, the actual error is not on that screen, use 'dmesg|less'
[15:45] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  theres patch - that may do it.. it seems to do a lot.
[15:45] <raven_> Dr_Willis, how to read out the dates by cmd?
[15:46] <Bonnie> t
[15:46] <raven_> Dr_Willis, which patch?
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> raven_:  you make a script that does somthing for each file. and have the script parse the filename and extract the date.
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> !info patch
[15:46] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_,  ATI Readon
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> !info phatch
[15:46] <warp_> well, I was trying to upgrade ubuntu from 10.10 to 11.04 version when my laptop was turned off, cause battery failure... and now I need to resume the upgrade. How can I do that?
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> pHatch :)
[15:46] <iandi> pfifo: where do i type that? in busybox?
[15:46] <Linuxfav> terry:will the open source driver be as efficient as the proprietary one....do i have to install it?
[15:46] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_,  i think it's ATI 4200
[15:46] <pfifo> iandi, yes
[15:46] <Dr_Willis> warp_:  eww..  that could be bad.
[15:47] <santi> I'd like to add my IPv6 Tunnel from HE with this command: "ifconfig sit0 inet6 tunnel ::216.66.84.46", and I get as answer only: "SIOCSIFDSTADDR: Kein Hauptspeicher für den Puffer verfügbar" - Ubuntu 11.04. Thank you!
[15:47] <emj> Time like this I really dislike 3G connections.. :-( VNC is slooooow.
[15:48] <iandi> pfifo: what is that letter or symbol after dmesg
[15:48] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_,  i switched to classic when Unity didnt work.. resetting unity was taking lot of time so i switched to classic
[15:48] <puckipedia> a pipe
[15:48] <pfifo> iandi, what filesystem is ont he USB and how did you prepeare it?
[15:48] <iandi> pfifo: startup disk creator
[15:48] <pfifo> iandi, its a vertical bar, above the \ key on us qwerty
[15:49] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, the fact that Unity does not work, means that you are using GPU drivers which are not optimal for your GPU
[15:49] <pfifo> iandi, fat32 filesystem then i presume?
[15:49] <Linuxfav> terry:can u tell me what's the problem...i checked the nvidia website...my graphics card is supported with this driver version
[15:49] <iandi> pfifo: i have swedish keyboard but console is using english i think, makes it hard to know what to press
[15:49] <iandi> pfifo: yes, fat32
[15:50] <iandi> pfifo: i've also tried universal usb installer from windows
[15:50] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, I'm also on Classic BTW, but with an nVidia 9600 LT
[15:50] <puckipedia> iandi:if you can find the backslash, you could use pipe (shift+\)
[15:50] <pfifo> iandi, screenshot `fdisk -l` if it runs properly
[15:50] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_,  Unity did work but i screwed it up... and it's not getting reset
[15:51] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, ah, I switched from Unity back to classic after a first glimpse at Unity.
[15:51] <DerpNauce> When I use "sudo pkill tor" in the terminal, the Indicator Applet and Indicator Applet Session stop working and have to be reloaded.  Is this to be expected from pkill?
[15:51] <HTCPX> does ubuntu support hyperthreading?
[15:51] <glda19> who can help me with dis
[15:51] <pfifo> DerpNauce, yes
[15:51] <glda19> Couldn't verify Cert: Peer's certificate issuer has been marked as not trusted by the use
[15:52] <DerpNauce> pfifo: Will this happen every time I use pkill?  Is there a way to make it not kill the indicator applet family?
[15:52] <Rockj> HTCPX: yes. Run up a task maanger and you'll see you got extra cores.
[15:52] <pfifo> DerpNauce, use `kilall tor`
[15:52] <pfifo> DerpNauce, use `killall tor`
[15:52] <DerpNauce> hm, I guess I need to find out what pkill does
[15:52] <Rockj> HTCPX: all linux distros support it aslong as they have a kernel that compiled support for it (which is pretty common now a days ;))
[15:52] <DerpNauce> OH
[15:52] <glda19> Couldn't verify Cert: Peer's certificate issuer has been marked as not trusted by the use
[15:52] <DerpNauce> indicaTOR
[15:52] <pfifo> DerpNauce, its caue indacator has 'tor' in it
[15:52] <Stereocaulon_> DerpNauce, right!
[15:53] <HTCPX> rockj do you know if its worth enabling on a p4 northwind?
[15:53] <DerpNauce> thank you u_u
[15:53] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_, well unity wasnt working until i installed proprietary  drivers then it worked then i played in compiz and all got screwed.. so i'm trying to reset it and it's not working :( even classic got screwed :(
[15:53] <Tecan> does quicklounge applets work for anyone with 11.04 ?
[15:53] <oneliner_> how to reconfigure window manager?
[15:53] <oneliner_> from terminal :)
[15:53] <Linuxfav> terry:r u there?
[15:53] <Linuxfav> upon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?
[15:54] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, check the answers that oneliner__ will get as they could help you.
[15:54] <DerpNauce> Noob question, how do I find out the name of a pid?  I typed "pgrep tor" and it gave me a bunch of 4-digit numbers, not sure how to get process names from them
[15:54] <Rockj> HTCPX: there's a lot of debate on how efficient hyperthreading is, for multitasking and normal software usage I would say yes. For gaming on windows, it actually might be ther other way around. (at least from the last time I read up on it)
[15:54] <puckipedia> oneliner_:ctrl+alt+f2, login and type "compiz --replace &" and press ctrl+alt+f7 or f8
[15:54] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, please try the following to restore unity: sudo dpg-reconfigure unity
[15:54] <meisth0th> DerpNauce, ps aux|grep <pid>|grep -v grep
[15:54] <DerpNauce> thanks meisth0th
[15:54] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, Correction, please try the following to restore unity: sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity
[15:54] <meisth0th> DerpNauce, you're welcome
[15:55] <Linuxfav> upon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?
[15:55] <Rockj> HTCPX: but then again, games now a days take more efficient usage of multiple cores so hyperthreading might still be good for gaming in windows. It actually depends on pr game last time I read on it :)
[15:55] <Crazy1> hello everyone
[15:55] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_, ok.. i'll try it
[15:55] <Rockj> HTCPX: anyway, short answer - yes I would enable it :-)
[15:55] <Crazy1> i want ask some question
[15:55] <Crazy1> can anyone help me??
[15:55] <Stereocaulon_> Crazy1, go ahead and ask your question
[15:56] <puckipedia> Linuxfav:You could try rebooting your computer, when bios disappears, hold shift. choose recovery and you could repair it from there
[15:56] <meisth0th> actually you already asked one question :)
[15:56] <Crazy1> \b(?<Word>\w+)\b\s+\k<Word>\b
[15:56] <Sidewinder1> glda19, I had that happen once. The battery was dead in a computer that sat unplugged for weeks and the current date was, like, 8 years ago...
[15:56] <camarllon> meisth0th: its true (Y)
[15:56] <bazhang> Crazy1, rephrase
[15:56] <Crazy1> did anyone know what this means
[15:56] <Crazy1> \b(?<Word>\w+)\b\s+\k<Word>\b
repair it....why...
[15:57] <Stereocaulon_> Crazy1, try a tutorial about regular expressions
[15:57] <Sidewinder1> glda19, Reset the date and all was A-OK; Not saying that that's your problem, but...
[15:57] <camarllon> Crazy1: it is a regular expression...
[15:57] <ibeekman> wow the UI in Natty got all kinds of messed up
[15:57] <glda19> Sidewinder1, what did you mean
[15:58] <puckipedia> Linuxfav:go to root console, and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[15:58] <puckipedia> Linuxfav:Correction: "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" in root console
[15:58] <kwtm> Crazy1: It is a regex that describes a pattern to look for in text.  It means:  a word (meaning consecutive letters or numbers), followed by some whitespace (space, tabs, etc.), followed by that same word
[15:58] <ToxinPowe> Anyone can tell me where is "save session" in the new 11.04?
[15:58] <ibeekman> on my Docked IBM T60 with second monitor The Unity launcher doesn't work
[15:58] <Sidewinder1> glda19, Please see above two ^^
what will that command do?...will it fix it..?
[15:59] <MNichie> ibeekman: sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment, unity has problems
[15:59] <Crazy1> kwtm: can you give me an example?
[15:59] <ibeekman> and, while the new scroll bars are awesome, they only work 50% of the time for me
[15:59] <puckipedia> Linuxfav:What graphics card do you have?
[15:59] <kwtm> Crazy1: So, if your text contained   "This is a frog frog." then the "frog frog" part would match.
[15:59] <Linuxfav> terry:I have done the unity support test and it says unity is supported.....my graphics card is>>>02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)
[15:59] <ibeekman> yeah I'm back on classic, still having some issues here and there
[15:59] <krad> i have: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick main, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick-security main, what to add more?  i want to install rcconf
[15:59] <Crazy1> kwtm: i tried like this 123 123,but it didn't work
[16:00] <oneliner_> puckipedia:  failed to replace with & param, param not recognized
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G72 [GeForce 7300 SE/7200 GS] (rev a1)
[16:00] <kwtm> Crazy1: If your text contained "This is a bullfrog frog" then it would not match because it takes the entire bullfrog word.
[16:00] <Crazy1> kwtm: let me try it
[16:00] <ibeekman> I love this channel because it's always jumpin
[16:00] <oneliner_> how can i restart xorg from command line?
[16:00] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_,  whoa!!! that did the trick.. i was struggling for it since morning.. sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity... thanks a lot
[16:00] <Dr_Willis> oneliner_:  sudo service gdm restart
[16:00] <kwtm> Crazy1: If you "tried 123 123" then you already know that this is a regular expression.
[16:00] <MNichie> If I wanted to use a mac, I would.  No reason to use a buggy rip off of os x
[16:00] <kwtm> Crazy1: In that case, you should ask at #regex or ##regex.
[16:01] <Nighthwk> Can anyone tell me a good ftp client for ubuntu?
[16:01] <oneliner_> Dr_Willis: cheers
[16:01] <MNichie> Nighthwk: gftp
[16:01] <Dr_Willis> Nighthwk:  the file manager can do ftp
[16:01] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_, now the min max button also started glowing when i hover!!
[16:01] <ibeekman> Nighthwk: I like FileZilla
[16:01] <puckipedia> Linuxfav:goto recovery console and type that command, choose nv and if the first dialog after that does not have your cardname, type it in caps, and just press enter after that
[16:01] <Crazy1> kwtm: i am learning the   regular expression now
[16:01] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, sudo dpkg-reconfigure <package> works for a lot of packages if you run into troubles with them. That's how I fixed my initially failed upgrade from 10.10. Glad to be able to help you :-)
[16:02] <ibeekman> or you can always use the command line
[16:02] <kwtm> Crazy1: It is not related to ubuntu.
[16:02] <Crazy1> kwtm: ok..
[16:02] <ibeekman> Is it always this busy in here or is the frenetic pace of conversation due to the recent release of Natty?
[16:02] <krad> what sources should i have in sources.lst
[16:02] <Stereocaulon_> Crazy1, try joining #regex
[16:02] <Crazy1> kwtm: i went to #regexask for help
how to get to the recovery console?
[16:03] <Dr_Willis> ibeekman:  ive seen it more full in here. :)
[16:03] <compdoc> always this busy
[16:03]  * ibeekman waves at all the people
[16:03] <Stereocaulon_> I just love freenode, they have a channel for almost any OpenSource project
[16:03]  * ibeekman thinks it is quite loud in here
[16:03] <compdoc> this channel is unlike #centos, where they dont like ppl to help each other
[16:03] <muneeb> Stereocaulon_, well i had tried sudo dpkg --configure -a but i didnt help... i learned a new command today dpkg-reconfigure!!
[16:04] <ibeekman> good ol cent
[16:04] <ibeekman> they have RHEL 6 yet?
[16:04] <compdoc> no
[16:04] <compdoc> soon
[16:04] <SomeDude1234> Anyone else having wireless accesspoint-connection issues with WPA after the upgrade to ubuntu 11.10? I can see the ESSID's around but cannot connect to my WPA/PSK encrypted AP
[16:04] <krad> what sources should i have in sources.lst
[16:04] <ibeekman> RHEL 5 is so old
[16:04] <ibeekman> but damn is it stable
[16:04] <krad> sources.list*
[16:04] <compdoc> Im switching all my servers to ubuntu - good bye centos
[16:05] <astory> I'm getting 404s from archive.ubuntu.com
[16:05] <lcb> compdoc, nice move
[16:05] <terry> krad: 9.04?
[16:05] <ibeekman> should i try out KDE? My gnome session and Unity sessions are quite buggy?
[16:05] <jrib> astory: sudo apt-get update
[16:05] <Stereocaulon_> muneeb, I just learned it from a book teaching me LPIC level 1
[16:05] <astory> jrib: that's throwing the 404s
[16:05] <tatzenblogde> i changed to kde
[16:05] <krad> terry, 10.10 now
[16:05] <astory> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty-updates/universe/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.176 80]
[16:05] <Nighthwk> Can anyone tell me a good ftp client for ubuntu that has auth tsl
[16:05] <krad> terry, and i only have 2 sources ..
[16:05] <compdoc> lcb, hope it works out for the best
[16:06] <tatzenblogde> filezilla
[16:06] <jrib> astory: choose a local mirror
[16:06] <ibeekman> on RHEL 5 I used KDE, then I tried KDE on Ubuntu right when 4.0 dropped and ran back to gnome
[16:06] <iceroot> Nighthwk: ftps
[16:06] <terry> krad: You can add soruces via synaptic
[16:06] <Nighthwk> thanks
[16:06] <astory> jrib: I'll look for a tutorial, thanks
[16:06] <lcb> compdoc, it depends the servers you install. you might need some nail typing...
[16:06] <tatzenblogde> ibeekman why? kde is good integradet in ubuntu (i know only 11.04)
[16:06] <krad> terry, im doing this through console
[16:06] <ibeekman> but I bet it's stable now
[16:06] <jrib> astory: it was System → Administration → Software Sources at least once in the past
[16:06] <emj> Rockj, + who ever: apparently x11vnc didn't work since vino-server was already running.
[16:07] <ibeekman> I like the customization options and Dolphin
[16:07] <astory> jrib: I'm configuring a custom ISO so I only have command line
[16:07] <emj> worked like a charm
[16:07] <hobbel> Is there a way to speed up the unity launcherbar appearance animation? Its to slow for me..
[16:07] <compdoc> just rsync, samba, and guests running in qemu-kvm
[16:07] <terry> krad: System -> Adminstration -> Software Sources
[16:07]  * emj leaves 
[16:07] <jrib> astory: ok, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:07] <ibeekman> but desktop widgets get on my nerves
hey i have executed the command in terminal as root...but no dialog
[16:07] <tatzenblogde> hobbel, unity 2d or 3d?
[16:07] <jrib> !mirrors | astory
[16:07] <krad> terry, this is a remote server and not my desktop .. no gui .. only command line
[16:07] <ibeekman> too shiny
[16:07] <hobbel> tatzenblogde 3d
[16:07] <oneliner> Dr_Willis:  the gdm service crashed and burned and rolled in mud till all there was is pain
[16:07] <tatzenblogde> hobbel,use the cssm (compiz configuration manager) for the options
[16:08] <SomeDude1234> Help: I cannot connect to my Wlan AP (WPA/PSK encrypted) any longer since 11.10 (formerly 10.10). Networkmanager just after a certain timeout of connection trial stops. It worked in 10.10.
[16:08] <hobbel> tatzenblogde ah thanks, i hope its in there :)
[16:08] <tatzenblogde> :-)
[16:08] <terry> krad: Oh ok. pastebinit /etc/apt/soruces.list  and we'll have a look.
[16:08] <Jonii2> hey, I'm using ubuntu studio and I just updated to 11.04.  Now when i boot up, it tells me me hardware isn't up to date enough to use unity, witch is a joke in itself.  Then, it makes sure i don't have a mouse and i can't use the keyboard to get past the error message.  As soon as i boot, it gives me an error message with no way to get out of it.  can anybody help me or is my comp foobared...
[16:08] <Jonii2> ...yet again?
[16:08] <cmalo> hello; anyone have issues when upgrading it allows me to login but errors and locks up
[16:08] <Linuxfav> upon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> Jonii2:  make sure yu got the proper video drivers installed.
[16:09] <krad> terry, it only has 2 records: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick main, deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu maverick-security main
[16:09] <kaddi>  hi, i'm trying to revive an old install on a laptop... It was working a week ago, it has issues with the bios battery so I get frequent complaints of mismatching timestamps (not now though). It boots right into recovery console and when I do a startx in there, I get mktemp: failed to create file via template '/tmp/serverauth.XXXXXXXXXXXXXX': read-only file system so it seems to me that i'm looking at a permission issue, however I don't know how to
[16:09] <kaddi> resolve it.. any tips?
[16:09] <tatzenblogde> ibeekman, i deactivated widgets on my kde... only a folder view :D dolphin is the default filemanager in kubuntu.. i switched 2 days ago
[16:09]  * Mud stabs oneliner in the face
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> Jonii2:  ive also had issues with some usb things not working Untill i unplug/pluyg them back in
[16:09] <Jonii2> Dr_Willis: well the drivers were installed fine just before i upgraded.... now it doesn't matter as i can't get in
[16:09] <Dr_Willis> Jonii2:  use the console and check.
[16:09] <ibeekman> man no scroll bar in Empathy under 11.04
[16:09] <luisgmarine> Hello anyone here tried installing ubuntu 11.04 on macbook pro 5,3?  I'm getting a blinking cursor and REEFIT doesn't seem to install
[16:09] <ibeekman> (Ubuntu classic)
[16:09] <astory> jrib: that fixed it, thanks :D
[16:09] <Jonii2> Dr_Willis: how am i supposed to do that? it never gives me a chance to boot to the console
[16:10] <cmalo> can I revert back from 11.04?
[16:10] <ibeekman> and the window docking is all kinds of messed up
[16:10] <compdoc> doubtful
[16:10] <compdoc> cmalo, why do you want to
[16:10] <tatzenblogde> Jonii2, switch to therecoeryconsole
[16:10] <kk9822> hi
[16:10] <Jonii2> Dr_Willis: ok, i'll do that. what do i type in to fix it though? I'm new to linux
[16:10] <tatzenblogde> god damn it - my space-key is ill...
[16:10] <kk9822> i need some help i m stuck
[16:10] <cmalo> comdoc: I upgraded and now I get to the login; able to login but after that getting erros about Natalus
[16:11] <tatzenblogde> kk9822, lets hear :-)
[16:11] <krad> terry, what sources do i need to add so that i can install say svn,rcconf etc
[16:11] <kk9822> i upgraded 10.10 to 11.04  i m not getting menu but
[16:11] <ibeekman> kk9822: have you tride some lubricant?
[16:11] <kk9822> it goes to terminal mode
[16:11] <cmalo> comdoc: doesn't go anyfurther after that
[16:11] <ibeekman> oooh fun!
[16:11] <Dr_Willis> Jonii2:  you could unplug/lug the usb things at the login screen and they may start working
[16:11] <kk9822> no
[16:11] <Linuxfav> upon installing drivers for my graphics card....i can not boot into unity ...nor into ubuntu clssic session....can anybody help?
[16:12] <Jonii2> Dr_Willis: alright i'll try that be back in a few
[16:12] <pbandcheezwhiz> Question.  I run a dual monitor setup, and just upgrade to Natty.  I really like the ability to shade windows. Now when windows are screen I am unable to shade windows like I used to.  Is that 'just the way it is' or is there something I can do about that?
[16:13] <Stereocaulon_> Is there a nice program available to edit the Gnome2 menu? The Main Menu editor slab is quite awkward to operate
[16:13] <kk9822> pl give the web add for downloading laptop ver of ubuntu 11.04
[16:13] <ibeekman> theres no /part command?
[16:13] <mikinanuq> Linuxfav: does it hang on boot?
[16:13] <ibeekman> okay later peeps
[16:13] <lcb> pbandcheezwhiz, there are some known issues with duals. probably better starting with default drivers and then test again with proprietary ones
[16:13] <cmalo> what about mouse not even working ><
[16:14] <terry> krad: just  a sec
after selecting unity....the desktop shows up...but unresponsive
[16:14] <wabznasm> Anyone aware of any issue with Transmission icon not showing in systray on 11.04.  Already setcom.canonical.Unity.Panel systray-whitelist ['all']
[16:14] <blit> hi i've installed 11.04. how do i find programs grouped by categories (ex. "games") in the new unity ui? thanks
[16:14] <htcrwn148> hey guys does anyone know if i upgrade to the ubuntu11.04 would i lose everything on my pc?
[16:14] <cmalo> prob so
[16:14] <bafilius> blit: right click on the plus
[16:14] <santiago> hi...
[16:15] <pbandcheezwhiz> everything seems to be working correctly using the nvidia 270 driver.  Its just the full screen with the way they went to the Mac style menus on the bar ya know?
[16:15] <kk9822> hi
[16:15] <mikinanuq> Linuxfav: maybe reset your profile...
[16:15] <VCoolio> htcrwn148: depends if you have /home or whatever date on a separate partition; if not, it'll be wiped out
[16:15] <semitones_dj> zsync from the main mirror didn't work -- are there mirrors that have zsync?
[16:15] <Bookman> I just upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and now my ATI Xpress200 video card is not working in 3D.  The Additional Drivers does not show anything as being available.
[16:15] <mikinanuq> Linuxfav: at least get it back to default
[16:15] <bafilius> htcrwn148: only if the install goes buggy like mine did
[16:16] <wabznasm> htcrwn18: updated from 10.10 to 11.04 yesterday with no real probelms. Just some little bugs
but i dont think unity will work without the driver at all
[16:16] <Kevin147> htcrwn148: I recommend backing up your stuff, just in case
[16:16] <htcrwn148> so i should back up everything...
[16:16] <pbandcheezwhiz> if windows are not in full screen, i can shade properly.
[16:16] <htcrwn148> thanks
[16:16] <Kevin147> np
[16:16] <lcb> htcrwn148, no but backup /home first. then ' sudo -i ' and  ' apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get -f install && apt-get check && apt-get autoremove && reboot
[16:16] <blit> thanks.
[16:16] <bafilius> always backup everything
[16:16] <pbandcheezwhiz> i lived on the edge, didn't backup anything, and upgraded.  no issues really.
[16:16] <mikinanuq> Linuxfav: when you install a driver it's system wide, not just your profile.
[16:16] <lcb> htcrwn148, remove those ' sudo 's in the middle
[16:17] <wabznasm> htcrwn148: I just followed Canonical's instructions on ubuntu site and used update manager. No problems, though maybe cli has some benefits
in jockey there is a entry for experimental driver...should i install that?
[16:17] <lcb> wabznasm, needs to update the system first...
[16:17] <wabznasm> lcb: yes, as in instructions on ubuntu main sute
[16:17] <bafilius> there should be no problems but for me it wouldn't boot after update
[16:18] <blit> also... i've installed 11.04 beta2 10 days ago. should i reinstall the "official" 11.04 or keeping upgrading will suffice?
[16:18] <lcb> wabznasm, yes... and fix the system too, just in case
[16:18] <jonii2> hey thanks so much Dr_Willis I got in to ubuntu now.
[16:18] <santiago> I have a question, after reading the feed for a few minutes... does everybody like Unity, or what?
[16:19] <lcb> blit, it upgrades normally, no need of commands or whatever
[16:19] <jonii2> but still, i don't get why it thinks i can't use unity
[16:19] <Kevin147> !ot | santiago
[16:19] <wabznasm> santiago: still deciding :)
[16:19] <maxsaniel> join #ubuntu-br
[16:19] <kaddi> k, my issue was resolved with a fsck... /tmp had a timestamp from october this year and system time was only april this year
[16:19] <jonii2> I have the nvidia drivers for my graphics card... and i could run unity without a problem, but ubuntu once again has decided that its smarter than me. any help?
[16:19] <compdoc> santiago, I tried to - but never did
[16:19] <zzecool> anybody know why the compiz "place windows" plugin doesn't work with adobe air applications? i set a rule for tweetdeck to always appear in a certain viewport but it always opens in my current viewport. any ideas?
[16:19] <Glycan_> Hello.
[16:20] <Glycan_> Where is terminal on 11.4?
[16:20] <zzecool> Glycan_,  press windows key and type terminal
[16:20] <terry> krad: lsb_release -a   #Does that say 10.10?
[16:20] <blit> lcb: u've misundestood, i was asking if having first  installed the beta will give me problems in the long run
[16:21] <blit> Glycan_: control + alt + t
[16:21] <Ubuntu_user> Hi i just installed a .sh file, from where can i run it? I am new to ubuntu.
[16:21] <Glycan_> Thanks.
[16:21] <eks> i just tried both dvd and cd for kubuntu and they both give a wall of text while booting from the usb stick (after I select start kubuntu). really a wall of text, whitout even new lines between errors. any ideas why?
[16:21] <mikinanuq>  Linuxfav I'm not sure about jockey driver.
[16:22] <lcb> blit, no. unless you dad major problems in meanwhile. but the updates are processed normally until you get the full system as 11.04 final
[16:22] <lcb> blit, dad/had
[16:22] <ibeekman> Does anybody have any thoughts on resizing an encrypted /home partition?
[16:23] <phoebe212> has anyone tried out IOS on Linux? is there any IOU LiveCD based on Ubuntu to tes
[16:23] <Dr_Willis> ibeekman:  make backups first.
[16:23] <lcb> ibeekman, i don't use it, but gparted doesn't do it?
[16:24] <bc81> i'm reluctant to upgrade to 11.04...the last 3 times i upgraded through the update manager, i ended up having to reinstall completely.
[16:24] <cebrian> hi
[16:24] <bc81> does anyone have upgrade success stories?
[16:24] <Belial`> i did
[16:24] <cebrian> im having problems with the freeze of the Unity
[16:24] <lcb> bc81, me 2
[16:24] <cebrian> after upgrading to 11.04
[16:24] <wabznasm> bc81: yeah - 10.10 to 11.04 with minor niggled
[16:24] <wabznasm> bc81: yeah - 10.10 to 11.04 with minor niggles
[16:24] <cebrian> i cant even change to classic
[16:24] <Belial`> bc81, mine upgraded ok, but i felt it could have been a bit faster.
[16:24] <jonii2> bc81, I'm probably going to end up reinstalling
[16:24] <cebrian> any way to do it from console
[16:24] <cebrian> ?
[16:24] <HRT> Hi, please someone helps me with installing ATI Radeon HD 5470 on Ubuntu 11.04? I can't install it properly
[16:24] <lcb> bc81, some issues with graphics but in time would be resolved
[16:25] <quellhorst> what app lets me change the kernel i boot up with? i jsut added a kvm kernel but its defaulting to boot the old kernel
[16:25] <jonii2> Why is ubuntu telling me that my hardware isn't good enough to use unity, even when i have great specs and graphics drivers installed?p
[16:25] <blit> lcb: so (having just upgraded packages) i'm the same of a new install, right?
[16:25] <jonii2> I know i can run it, but ubuntu has decided its smarter than me yet again
[16:25] <lcb> quellhorst, SHIFT before grub loads
[16:25] <compdoc> bc81, I upgraded a couple of systems from 10.10 to 11.04 beta 1 and beta 2 without issues, but they were fresh installs of 10.01
[16:25] <compdoc> 10.10
[16:25] <bc81> ok, thanks for the feedback, folks.  i'll probably just reinstall from cd, to avoid the pitfalls
[16:26] <bison> question: why is it that i can't view the video in full screen in firefox under ubuntu 10.10
[16:26] <MadRobot_> Hi all
[16:26] <quellhorst> lcb: the delay is too short, my monitor goes into power save mode.
[16:26] <Ubuntu_user> Hi i just installed a .sh file, from where can i run it? I am new to ubuntu.
[16:26] <terry> bison: Prbably need flashplugin upgrade
[16:26] <lcb> blit, yes, that's how i'm running now. dist-upgrade or the commands used before don't work, as you can see. i mean they work but don't produce anything, saying the system is up-to-date
[16:26] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: "Installed" How?
[16:26] <HRT> Hi, please someone helps me with installing ATI Radeon HD 5470 on Ubuntu 11.04? I can't install it properly
[16:26] <wabznasm> Ubuntu_user: from the directory it's downloaded to. 'sh <filename>'
[16:26] <openbees> hi buddy ...i got a problem with my compiz effects ...whenver i am selecting compiz as my window maneger the top most bar (including min,max,close) button disapears...everything is finr with metacity except there is no effects)
[16:26] <MadRobot_> Is it normal for the new Ubuntu 11.04 to take a long time to install on my USB stick?
[16:26] <oneliner> how can i "restore" all unity/compiz settings to installation defaults?
[16:27] <htcrwn148> i know this is not a smart question, but to back up everything on my pc... do i just copy all the files to my external HD or is there a function available or how do i do it?
[16:27] <phoebe212> !beta
[16:27] <wabznasm> openbees: me too - logout and back in when it happens. Only seems to be when changing some compiz settings
[16:27] <bison> terry: i can play the video though
[16:27] <R3dy> Trying to install JTR with 64bit support on 11.04 and getting an error on openssl/sha.h "file not found"
[16:27] <coz_> MadRobot_, other than usb being painfully slow compared to cd
[16:27] <ThomasB2k> I am running Ubuntu Maverick and I'm about to upgrade to 11.04. When I installed 10.10, I decided to set up a separate partition for my /home directory. Will this present any problems during installation?
[16:27] <arand_> oneliner: I think you can use "unity --restore"
[16:27] <kkal> Ubuntu classic saved my day
[16:27] <R3dy> can't seam to figure out what libary I need to install
[16:27] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  I used chmod +x /path then ./file.sh
[16:27] <lcb> quellhorst, but you get the screen with kernels or not?
[16:27] <terry> bison: http://trryhend.startlogic.com/
[16:27] <oneliner> arand thisnak i ll try
[16:27] <MadRobot_> coz_, is really slower than a CD?
[16:27] <quellhorst> lcb: ok, got the screen with kernels, but i don't see the kvm kernel.
[16:28] <cebrian> kkal: how can i use ubuntu classic
[16:28] <lcb> quellhorst, right after SHIT and when the options are present press one of arrow keys or something
[16:28] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: It did not work?
[16:28] <coz_> R3dy,   google  ubuntu  openssl/sha.h "file not found"
[16:28] <oneliner> arand_:  no such option
[16:28] <openbees> wabznasm:everthing was good with 10.04 ...problem occurs between path 10.04->10.10->11.04
[16:28] <lcb> shit/SHIFT.. oopsy
[16:28] <coz_> MadRobot_,  yes it is much slower,,,
[16:28] <kkal> cebrian: logout and choose ubuntu classic from the toolbar below before loging in
[16:28] <coz_> MadRobot_, unless you have usb3
[16:28] <HRT> folks. no one's going to help me here?
[16:28] <wabznasm> openbees: I have this problem on 11.04. It's a bug, but can be worked aorund
[16:28] <MadRobot_> coz_, that's weird. :/
[16:28] <arand_> oneliner: If that is the error message, probably the script is faulty, where is the script from?
[16:28] <MadRobot_> coz_, I see.
[16:29] <lcb> quellhorst, select recovery and besides doing the DPKG option do GRUB option too
[16:29] <cebrian> i cant
[16:29] <jonii2> Why won't linux let me use unity? its telling me my hardware isn't good enough when its sooooo more than good enough.
[16:29] <oneliner> its unity?
[16:29] <cebrian> the system freezes
[16:29] <coz_> HRT,   i am not skilled at all with ati issues  ,, did you try the #radeon  channel ...yes?
[16:29] <cebrian> whenver a graphical window appears
[16:29] <lcb> quellhorst, on the second choice on top, current kernel
[16:29] <ojii> for some reason the interface language in my login screen is in japanese, but after I login everything is in English (as it should be), how can I change/fix the language in my login screen?
[16:29] <phoebe212> !ubuntu+1 | HRT
[16:29] <cebrian> ive been able to just login into console
[16:29] <openbees> wabznasm :  :(:( anyone here planning to fix this bug !!!
[16:29] <quellhorst> lcb: ok, doing recovery now
[16:29] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  It 's final instruction was "running the installer wizard"
[16:30] <IdleOne> phoebe212: this is the correct channel after +1 dev branch is released.
[16:30] <kkal> cebrian: hrm... so you arent able to run X?
[16:30] <arand_> jonii2: Have you installed extra video drivers (ati/nvidia)?
[16:30] <DosAmp> say, the link to http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent under "Alternative downloads" is a copy-and-paste error, is it? can't find a netbook remix for natty anywhere else
[16:30] <lcb> quellhorst, hopefully  corrects that...
[16:30] <cebrian> kkal: nope
[16:30] <HRT> phoebe212, I'm not going to get anything here?
[16:30] <cebrian> kkal: it freezes
[16:30] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Where is the script from?
[16:30] <mithridates> is ubuntu natty using gnome 3 now?
[16:30] <R3dy> coz_: thx
[16:30] <jonii2> arand: yep, i just reinstalled them
[16:30] <quellhorst> lcb: well, i can boot in normal, but just wonder whats up with not getting the kvm kernel.
[16:30] <R3dy> I was missing libssl-dev
[16:30] <IdleOne> mithridates: no
[16:30] <kkal> cebrian: are you using an nvidia graphics card by any chance?
[16:31] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  it is the installer for netbeans
[16:31] <jonii2> arand: ima restart here and see if it helps.... brb
[16:31] <R3dy> I was searching for openssl and that's why I didn't find it
[16:31] <DosAmp> mithridates: no, it's still gnome 2.32 with unity interface
[16:31] <R3dy> with apt-cache
[16:31] <cebrian> no, I think they are ATI
[16:31] <coz_> R3dy, that search should probably yeild some solution
[16:31] <phoebe212> !patience | HRT
[16:31] <cebrian> is an HP notebook elite 6930p
[16:31] <R3dy> It did
[16:31] <ddaygold> so, i want to change the login screen in ubuntu 10.10, is this possible?
[16:31] <R3dy> thank y ou
[16:31] <mithridates> is Natty stable enough to install? the last time I had lots of problems with ubuntu-desktop + unity + nvidia
[16:32] <lcb> quellhorst, you might need to reinstall it or.. try the sudo dpkg-reconfigure package
[16:32] <openbees> wabznasm : so should i sacrifice my love for compiz effects just becoz ubuntu 11.04
[16:32] <DosAmp> unity runs fine on my nvidia card with nouveau + experimental gallium3d acceleration :)
[16:32] <twig111> I need help downloading 11.04. Will someone please look at this output from zsync  http://paste.ubuntu.com/601356/ and tell me what I'm doing wrong? I'm on a limited-bandwidth connection and I can't afford to download the whole image when I already have the beta. Thanks for any help.
[16:32] <cebrian> kkal: it is strange because when i start in failmode the console is a graphical one not a text one
[16:32] <wabznasm> openbees: just set it up how you want, logout, and login and your panel should be okay. Works for me
[16:32] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  what do you think i should do now?
[16:32] <hypetech> mithridates: it's stable on my nvidia
[16:32] <cebrian> but the login window does not work
[16:32] <mithridates> hypetech: did you upgrade from maverick?
[16:33] <oneliner> ok heads up! for people having misbehaving or haiwire unity / compiz display issues: unity --reset
[16:33] <lcb> cebrian, did you let the system upgrade or interrupted at some point?
[16:33] <DosAmp> twig111: the file is named "ubuntu-11.04-desktop-i386.iso". without the "beta2".
[16:33] <mithridates> hypetech: are you happy with what you got in Natty?
[16:33] <SomeDude1234> Since ubuntu 11.10 I have errors when I plug my USB wlan adapter and cannot connect to any of the access points (but they show up in the network-manger). Please see the dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/etdZ8Awn
[16:33] <hypetech> mithridates: do I did a fresh instally, but yes I'm very happy with natty
[16:33] <hypetech> mithridates: I'm on of the few that actually likes unity :\
[16:34] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: If you do not specifically need 7.0, install the 6.9 version (or earlier if you aren't running 11.04) from the ubuntu software centre.
[16:34] <openbees> wabznasm : my problem is not with main ubuntu desktop panel ...it is with windows ...like any aaplication , terminal , any ,file ..
[16:34] <cebrian> yes
[16:34] <kkal> hypetech: you take that back!
[16:34] <jonii2> ok so i reinstalled my graphics drivers and now ubuntu isn't even giving me errors OR a choice, it just sends me to ubuntu classic. I REALLY WANT UNITY lol
[16:34] <cebrian> lcb: yes
[16:34] <hypetech> kkal: lol
[16:34] <cebrian> lcb: i was forced to abort it
[16:34] <lcb> cebrian, try 'sudo dpkg --configure -a '
[16:34] <mithridates> kkal: don't you like unity?
[16:34] <tensai_cirno> hello, i have nasty glitch in gtk, that's ok? http://ompldr.org/vOGhwZQ/2011-04-30-193239_1280x800_scrot.png
[16:34] <lcb> cebrian, try what i wrote
[16:34] <tensai_cirno> intel hd graphics
[16:34] <speedrunnerG55v2> Hi
[16:34] <cebrian> lcb: ok, trying
[16:34] <blacky> hello...
[16:34] <mithridates> I guess MAC users like it
[16:34] <santiago> Regarding Unity vs Gnome, what I really miss is the fact that I use to customize my bars, add little apps to them, locate them where I wanted, change the size, width, color, font, etc
[16:34] <lcb> cebrian, you should tell us that on first place :p
[16:35] <santiago> while unity seems to be very rigid
[16:35] <blacky> my ubuntu 11.04 is booting using xvesa...
[16:35] <Ubuntu_user> i am of 11.04 and want 7.0 as it has less bugs and better pgp support
[16:35] <kkal> mithridates: nope. ubuntu classic saved the day for me
[16:35] <ddaygold> so, i want to change the login screen in ubuntu 10.10, is this possible?
[16:35] <Ubuntu_user> pgp/php
[16:35] <hypetech> mithridates: the keyboard shortcuts are what make it great
[16:35] <jonii2> arand_: I reinstalled drivers but it won't even let me try unity now, it just sends me straight to classic :(
[16:35] <cebrian> lcb: sorry ;)
[16:35] <blacky> any help to select openchrome would be greatly appreciated
[16:35] <hypetech> ddaygold: get "ubuntu-tweak" and you can change the background on the loging page
[16:35] <cebrian> lcb: ive just done that and no message in the console
[16:35] <DosAmp> jonii2: you can choose ubuntu (unity) or ubuntu classic at the bottom of the login screen. you need 3d acceleration drivers for unity.
[16:35] <cebrian> ill try to reboot now
[16:35] <lcb> cebrian, because ppl assumes everything went well while upgrading.
[16:35] <DosAmp> oh
[16:35] <mithridates> I don't think that I like it, I prefer terminal to unity
[16:36] <Ubuntu_user> arand_: i am of 11.04 and want 7.0 as it has less bugs and better php support
[16:36] <ddaygold> ty
[16:36] <lcb> cebrian, look at me.... hold on, i need to type a couple things...
[16:36] <blacky> hi... my 11.04 is using xvesa... any way to make it detect the card correctly? please?
[16:36] <jonii2> DosAmp: I have an NVIDIA GTS 250 with the drivers on my computer.  I can run any game i choose with max settings, so hardware isn't an issue. I'll try logging out and back in, but last time i check, Ubuntu (unity) wasn't even on the list
[16:36] <kkal> mithridates: I would've been fine with unity if they hadnt broken Alt+F2.
[16:36] <cebrian> lcb, no luck :(
[16:36] <cebrian> lcb, ill hold on
[16:36] <mithridates> kkal: what have they done to Alt+F2 ? :o
[16:37] <PalinBachman2012> you can get that back, i think
[16:37] <DosAmp> kkal: what's broken with alt+f2? it looks like the app dialog, but it's actually a launcher
[16:37] <twig111> I need help downloading 11.04 using zsync. Can someone look at this output http://paste.ubuntu.com/601356/ and see what I'm doing wrong? Thanks!
[16:37] <DosAmp> e.g. i can type "gconf-editor" even though it's not under applications
[16:37] <glda19> who can help me with my debug
[16:37] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  it never proceeds the starting installer wizard
[16:37] <lcb> cebrian, press SHIFT after bios messages and before grub loading. Select the second option on the top (recovery), Select DPKG option, then, GRUB option, then failsafeX option. Selet on there to fix X and then default configuration and CANCEL, and restart X.
[16:37] <jonii2> DosAmp: just as i thought, ubuntu refused to give the option of booting to unity
[16:38] <kkal> mithridates: DosAmp: various things. it wont complain if you've entered something non-existing. it doesnt autocomplete
[16:38] <glda19> who can help me with my debug http://fpaste.org/5gAb/
[16:38] <DosAmp> twig111: look at my answer above. drop the "beta2" part.
[16:38] <Vessago> http://pastebin.com/Z8TaGubD
[16:38] <mithridates> kkal: that's obscene , jk
[16:38] <DosAmp> it won't work with the final zsync
[16:38] <jonii2> DosAmp:  Ubuntu, Ubuntu (classic) ubuntu safe mode, theres a lot of options but not unity
[16:38] <lcb> cebrian, write that down and try to see if fixes your upgrading
[16:39] <cebrian> lcb, ok
[16:39] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: It works fine for me: "chmod +x ./netbeans-7.0-ml-linux.sh" "./netbeans-7.0-ml-linux.sh"
[16:39] <cebrian> lcb, going firts for the dpkg
[16:39] <lcb> cebrian, reboot when you get the login screen
[16:39] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: Ubuntu IS unity
[16:39] <PalinBachman2012> Ubuntu Classic is the old style
[16:39] <kkal> mithridates: plus it laggy
[16:39] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: lol not in this case, its sending me back to the old style if i pick just ubuntu
[16:39] <jonii2> unless unity looks EXACTLY like old ubuntu without compiz
[16:39] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  i had just renamed the file to nb.sh
[16:40] <lcb> cebrian, do CLEAN too on there. On DPKG check if no errors updating
[16:40] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: have you tried installing compiz settings, and enabling unity there
[16:40] <lcb> cebrian, if so..  try again. means the connection was not established or slow mirrors
[16:40] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I'll try that i guess
[16:40] <raven_> jhead how to display only the exif time?
[16:41] <Guest68448> Hello. I have an mp4 player. I cannot find my mp3/mp4 files once I've transferred them from my laptop to my mp4 player. What am I missing?
[16:41] <cebrian> lcb, just hold on
[16:41] <cebrian> lcb, trying
[16:41] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: ussually if unity is not your default desktop, then the system thinks your card cannot handle accelleration
[16:41] <twig111> DosAmp: Did you look closely at what I posted? I have the correct url. I'm using the beta2 iso for the seed file. You can see in the output that zsync marks it at 71.2% complete. I believe my syntax is correct. Please explain if I am missing something.
[16:41] <PalinBachman2012> so it disables it
[16:42] <PalinBachman2012> zsync http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/natty-desktop-amd64.iso.zsync in the dir with the old file just worked for me
[16:42] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: how do i enable unity from the compiz settings?
[16:43] <njbair> so banshee is converting my tracks to .wav when I copy them to my iPod... can I make it use MP3 instead?
[16:43] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you click the box next to unity
[16:43] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I know but i can't find unity on here'
[16:43] <coz_> njbair,  wow mm  i dont banshee at all,, so I cant help with this issue,, have you asked the banshee people or googled this ..yes?
[16:43] <Guest68448> Hello. I have an mp4 player. I cannot find my mp3/mp4 files once I've transferred them from my laptop to my mp4 player. However, I can see the files, just not the contents. What am I missing?
[16:43] <pattern> how do i get a list of services that i've added via update-rc.d ?
[16:44] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: and when i search it comes back with nothing
[16:44] <njbair> coz_: since banshee is now the default in 11.04 I figured I'd ask in here.
[16:44] <njbair> but google was no help
[16:44] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  check this image http://img806.imageshack.us/i/screenshotqeg.png/
[16:44] <coz_> njbair,  yes that makes sense,, i would still either or both goodle this and ask the banshee people,, you would get a better response that way
[16:45] <arand_> raven_: I would use jhead in conjunction with grep
[16:45] <coz_> njbair, rather "google"
[16:45] <raven_> arand_, ok
[16:45] <kkal> Guest68448: can you mount the mp4 player as a mass storage device?
[16:45] <htcrwn148> for backup purpose does the Home/user directory have everything that i have installed (files folders programs?)
[16:45] <cebrian> lcb, i have no connectivity
[16:45] <cebrian> lcb, no network
[16:45] <kkal> Guest68448: what do you mean by seeing the files but not the contents?
[16:46] <Guest68448> kkal: is shows up on my desktop as a 7.8 GB Filesystem
[16:46] <zatan> hi, why I cant make chrome default my webrowser on 11.04? Its set default, but than I am trying to website from xchat its oppening with firefox
[16:46] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Hmm, maybe you need to be in the same directory as the .sh file?
[16:46] <lcb> cebrian, if that doesn't fix and since yu broke/stopped the upgrading process i would use a live cd, backup (compress with nautilus option and copy to other media) /home (you might want to backup /etc and /usr too ) and better of fresh install 11.04. NOTICE that is what i would do.
[16:46] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you installed compizconfig-settings-manager and Ubuntu Unity Plugin is not in the Desktop settings? If so, I would think maybe you are not upgraded properly
[16:46] <kkal> Guest68448: can you open it and see the contents?
[16:46] <snowrichard> got the 11.04 upgrade done ... new desktop takes a bit of getting used to
[16:46] <tensorpudding> htcrwn148: it'll have everything you added except programs, for the most part
[16:46] <cebrian> lcb, ok
[16:46] <cebrian> lcb ill do that
[16:46] <quellhorst> what kernel should i install to run kvm?
[16:46] <cebrian> lcb thanks
[16:46] <lcb> cebrian, better, really
[16:46] <Guest68448> kkal: I see the folders but not the mp3/mp4/avi, or whatever
[16:46] <kkal> snowrichard: at it takes a bit more time for you to want to rip your eyes out
[16:47] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  so what i need to do for that, thanks for ur time
[16:47] <htcrwn148> tensorpudding: what about wine programs?
[16:47] <lcb> cebrian, upgrades must not be interrupted. if so damages the system
[16:47] <tensorpudding> htcrwn148: wine programs are installed under the user's directory
[16:47] <terrylm> X screen goes gray, mouse still works, every thing apparently still works, just can not be see except the mouse cursor.  Ideas?
[16:47] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Hmm, doesn't seem so though...
[16:47] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: yep i installed that and i can't find unity, but i know i upgraded.... the first time i booted it told me my hardware wasn't good enough to run unity and wouldn't let me close the error box...
[16:47] <htcrwn148> tensorpudding: but those would be backed up?
[16:47] <Guest68448> kkal: I don't have this problem on Windoze so I suspect I am simply missing a file
[16:47] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  pardon me, didn't get you
[16:48] <tensorpudding> htcrwn148: everything under the user's home directory is backed up, including the wine programs
[16:48] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: hang on.... i found it in ubuntu software center so i'm installing it through there
[16:48] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: what video card do you have, and does the 'restricted drivers' thinggee show up
[16:48] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: working dir doesn't seem to matter: http://imagebin.org/151003
[16:48] <ThomasB2k> I am running Ubuntu Maverick and I'm about to upgrade to 11.04. When I  installed 10.10, I decided to set up a separate partition for my /home  directory. Will Ubuntu automatically detect my separate /home partition  and use it in Natty?
[16:48] <kkal> Guest68448: tried pasting the mp4 files directly into a folder on the mp4 player that looks like "music/audio" ?
[16:48] <tensorpudding> htcrwn148: unless your backup software has explicit exceptions
[16:48] <tensorpudding> ThomasUK: no
[16:49] <phoebe212> !kvm | quellhorst
[16:49] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I have the Nvidia GTS 250 1GB and yes, restricted drivers shows up, works, and i have the drivers and the nvidia control panel.  games work great, but this doesn't.
[16:49] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  its working fine on yours
[16:49] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: then you should be good to go, once you get unity installed
[16:49] <htcrwn148> tensorpudding: ill try backing up manually and with simple backup...
[16:49] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: hang on
[16:49] <tensorpudding> ThomasUK: what you must do, when you get to the partitioning step, is find your /home partition and tell the installer to NOT format it, and to mount it at /home
[16:49] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I SEE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
[16:49] <plustax> Is anyone else experiencing lag in 11.04? It takes a little longer to open programs, and also facebook navigating through pictures seems like it takes forever.
[16:49] <Sledge> is anyone else having problems with java and flash, not working after the update to 11.04
[16:49] <Guest68448> kkal: I had the same problem under a different distro. Help told me I was simply missing a file but I cannot even remember the name of it. It was something about compatibility or codecs or something
[16:50] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: thanks dude, your the only person so far who hasn't told me to fix everything by opening the console, im gonna relog and see if it works now
[16:50] <twig111> PalinBachman2012: I don't know if you were replying to me awhile ago on the zsync download issue or not, but here's what's happening now. http://paste.ubuntu.com/601371/
[16:50] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Yea, I don't know what the difference is though, I am running Debian, here... I'll check if it's an Ubuntu thing...
[16:50] <twig111> Does this tell you anything? Is the server just too busy?
[16:50] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  there's some hitch that we are not able to pick. It didn't even asked for my password
[16:50] <quellhorst> phoebe212: i read that but still need help on the kernel.
[16:50] <Guest68448> kkal: the mp4 player's software is android
[16:50] <romno0x> when i use -X in ssh actually what happen then?
[16:51] <noody> Hi
[16:51] <ThomasB2k> thank you tensorpudding, although you didn't highlight me correctly. Thanks for the help.
[16:51] <Ubuntu_user> any body on irc getting to point please
[16:51] <romno0x> no answer?
[16:52] <openbees> unity panel and application launcher disappear ...from default ubuntu session
[16:52] <PalinBachman2012> twig111: your HD might be full, or else, the ubuntu servers might be getting hammered and the connection is being interupted
[16:52] <djazz> why does ubuntu's default bluetooth applet never work? :|
[16:52] <openbees> any idea how to fix
[16:52] <romno0x> romno0x: ..
[16:52] <sudipta> hey guys...after much furore...finally able to use unity...with free mesa driver
[16:52] <PalinBachman2012> twig111: they might be moving some DNS stuff around, but IDK
[16:53] <romno0x> how can i install my ssh server?
[16:53] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Well, it works for me on natty as well...
[16:53] <PalinBachman2012> twig111: i had some probs installing from aptitude that were related to dns and/or wrong moved ips
[16:53] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: thanks so much... unity works, almost. 2 issues, and one might not be an issue. First, ITS BLINDINGLY WHITE!!!! where can i go to change it back to my old theme?
[16:53] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  ahhh so can you figure out what could be the problem
[16:53] <tensorpudding> romno0x: search for openssh-server in the software center, when installed it will be started automatically, and you're good to go
[16:53] <hypetech> romno0x: "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[16:53] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: its white? its supposed to be a dark theme, iirc
[16:54] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Maybe you want to try re-downloading, make sure it's the right version, etc..
[16:54] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: i guess in your appearance settings
[16:54] <terrylm> X, screen goes gray, mouse still works, every thing apparently still works, just can not be see except the mouse cursor.  Ideas?
[16:54] <tensorpudding> jonii2: blindingly white? it should look the same as always
[16:54] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  I tried both the installers one from netbens.org and other from oracle.com bundled with jdk
[16:54] <kkal> Guest68448: you would be missing a package if you're talking about missing codecs. Although I dont see how missing a codec will prevent you from transfering files to the player
[16:54] <Guest68448> kkal: could it be due to me missing ffmpeg?
[16:54] <KillaloT> jonii2, you can right click on your desktop, click change background .. then there's a tab called "themes" ... you should be able to change to a darker theme
[16:54] <twig111> PalinBachman2012: I've tried it probably a dozen times since day before yesterday. Do you know anything I could do to troubleshoot, or do I just have to wait until the traffic subsides on the servers.
[16:54] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: This the one I used: http://netbeans.org/downloads/start.html?platform=linux&lang=en&option=all
[16:54] <KillaloT> jonii2, but default theme should be rather dark :))
[16:54] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: tensorpudding: yeah thats what i thought... but i'm really confused cause i can't find my appearance settings
[16:54] <Sledge> jonii2
[16:55] <Guest68448> kkal: I'm just installing ffmpeg now
[16:55] <Ubuntu_user> arand_: i do have it
[16:55] <serverfel> So what do you guys think of 11.04?
[16:55] <tensorpudding> jonii2: just search for it under the applications dash
[16:55] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you have to press the win key and start typing the name
[16:55] <Sledge> there you go
[16:55] <noody> Hi
[16:55] <noody> Gg
[16:55] <noody> Hf
[16:55] <noody> Tdf
[16:55] <noody> Hi
[16:55] <FloodBot3> noody: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:55] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: Right, well then I don't know why it doesn't work for you..
[16:55] <jonii2> ok well the bar at the top is still white, and so is chatzilla... but it has a dark theme :(
[16:55] <romno0x> hypetech: and what does exactly -X do when I use it in SSH command line?
[16:55] <jonii2> and i can't move the appearance window around
[16:55] <Thanatos> What is the terminal command for exiting X to load drivers?
[16:55] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  thanks for your time
[16:55] <hypetech> romno0x: it allows X11 forwarding, but I'm not sure of the proper use
[16:56] <Ubuntu_user> I try through forums too
[16:56] <Sledge> Yeah i don't really care for the new GUI ive had some serious issues with getting used to it also
[16:56] <romno0x> hypetech: what does it do X11 forwarding? i mean what is it?
[16:56] <Souperman> hello, what can i use to stream to an icecast2 server whitout having to use JACK?
[16:56] <VCoolio> Thanatos: sudo service gdm stop
[16:56] <ubuntu> just installed 11.04 and now i cannot get i to the system. I am currently using the live session from my install usb. please help
[16:56] <PalinBachman2012> I didnt like Unity at firest, but now i like it, once i added some nice hotcorners
[16:56] <HouseMD> romno0x: you run an app on a remote host and you get its display (i.e. window) in your host
[16:57] <Crazy1> did anyone know de channel of Regular-Expressions??
[16:57] <noody> Ji
[16:57] <greylurk_> any instructions on how to install Oracle JDK in Natty?
[16:57] <tensorpudding> romno0x: X11 forwarding means that if you start an X11 application inside the remote shell, the display is forwarded to your host, so you can use those applications remotely
[16:57] <KillaloT> Unity in netbook release of 10.10 was  shit, but i begin to like it in 11.04
[16:57] <jw_> When installing 11.04 on a RAID, where should boot loader be installed?? Dev mapper win7 partition or dev/SDA ?
[16:57] <iceroot> Crazy1: #regex
[16:57] <xangua> !java | greylurk_
[16:57] <Sledge> PalinBachman2012,  oh is this UNITY?
[16:57] <Sledge> PalinBachman2012,  i heard alot about it.
[16:57] <IdleOne> !language | KillaloT
[16:57] <Sledge> PalinBachman2012, didn't even realise thats what happen when i upgarded. lol
[16:57] <noody> Gh
[16:57] <noody> H
[16:57] <Crazy1> iceroot: THANKYOU
[16:57] <noody> J
[16:58] <KillaloT> :(
[16:58] <rumpe1> Crazy1, /msg alis list *regex*   (if you plan to search for channels in the future)
[16:58] <noody> Hi
[16:58] <Souperman> oh... wait... darkice is working D:
[16:58] <Guest68448> kkal: it hasn't made a difference. I can see the files within the folders through Ubuntu but when I try to run them with the mp4 player is see only folders without content.
[16:58] <jonii2> WOW ok so my theme only half works, most thinks are a terrible shade of grayish white. and if i unmaximize windows, i can't move them
[16:58] <jw_> When installing 11.04 on a RAID, where should boot loader be installed?? Dev mapper win7 partition or dev/SDA ?
[16:58] <iceroot> Crazy1: you can use regex on /msg alist list :)
[16:58] <tensorpudding> jonii2: can we see a screenshot of what's wrong
[16:58] <greylurk_> xangua - those only seem to cover maverick and lucid.
[16:59] <jonii2> tensorpudding: sure hang on
[16:59] <serverfel> I tried 11.04 on two computers, and im not to pleased. Think Unity is kinda lame, but i guess it needs getting used to. Looking foward to trying Gnome 3 instead.
[16:59] <sosaited> What is the most active video conversion/transcoding related channel for Linux/Ubuntu?
[16:59] <djazz> blueman doesnt work either? :|
[16:59] <BlouBlou> djazz: works perfectly
[16:59] <phoebe212> sosaited: #mythbuntu?
[17:00] <jw_> anyone know?
[17:00] <compdoc> is there a simple way to help a user remotely using vnc? can they share their desktop?
[17:00] <djazz> BlouBlou: i have two adapters, and neither works
[17:00] <sosaited> phoebe212, Isn't that sort of specific to mythbuntu and not general video related channel
[17:00] <hypetech> compdoc: teamviewer is the simplist way
[17:00] <Sledge> flash games or HULU not working
[17:00] <jonii2> ok well i'm uploding the picture but its gonna look funny cause i have to screens
[17:00] <Sledge> after upgrade
[17:01] <djazz> maybe I need reboot?
[17:01] <rumpe1> Sledge, already installed flashplugin-nonfree?
[17:01] <njbair> update: in case anyone asks, it looks like the upgrade to 11.04 uninstalled ubuntu-restricted-extras. I had to reinstall it manually in order to encode to MP3 instead of WAV in Banshee.
[17:01] <Sledge> rumpe1,  i went to synaptec and it says its already installed..
[17:01] <Sledge> rumpe1,  well it says flash is already installed
[17:01] <mikinanuq> jw_: /dev/sda is the more logical location.. the BIOS looks at the first ### blocks (don't know exactly) of the boot drive.. not in the first partition
[17:01] <greylurk_> anyone know of a PPA thtat includes Eclipse 3.6.2?
[17:01] <jonii2> tensorpudding: do you have teamviewer? my picture doesn't want to upload lol
[17:02] <tensorpudding> no
[17:02] <sebikul> Hi to everyone!. When upgrading to natty today (having already installed all drivers, etc.),  after the plymouth screen disappears , I am left with a screen with the nvidia logo, the PC is locked there,  it doesn't load any further, and I must restart by pressing Alt + Sys + B. I have a video card Nvidia GForce GT220 PCI  and onboard Geforce 6150 LE, but not being used.
[17:02] <jonii2> oh i think it worked
[17:02] <rndm> ok. i am trying to override policykit so that i can install updates without having to type my password but it doesn't seem to want to give in. What am I doing wrong? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601378/
[17:02] <scorch2> whats goin down in ds mother trucker?
[17:02] <jonii2> http://img171.imageshack.us/i/badcolors.png/
[17:02] <sebikul> The only thing I could get from the logs is this  (http://paste.ubuntu.com/601117). Note that this only happens when using the proprietary driver. When using nouveau I can use ubuntu without a problem, same as when using a failsafe boot
[17:02] <tensorpudding> oh, that's what i got for a moment
[17:02] <xangua> !language | scorch
[17:03] <jw_> I ask only because it failed to install it to sda then asked where I would like to install it.
[17:03] <Ubuntu_user> arand_:  okay is there any sudo apt-get for netbeans 7.0
[17:03] <Sledge> rumpe1 , just installed it now.. should i reboot?
[17:03] <axisys> is there a ppa for google chromium?
[17:03] <jonii2> thats what my desktop looks like, its weird though because i have 2 monitors
[17:03] <Chrom_> hi all. anyone noticed that in Natty, using the classical gnome, you can't drag items into the trash applet? The items are added to the panel instead of being trashed.. :)
[17:03] <ubuntu> hello anyone there
[17:03] <axisys> is there a ppa for google chrome rather?
[17:03] <arand_> Ubuntu_user: No, only 6.9
[17:03] <xangua> axisys: chromium is already in the repository
[17:03] <Ubuntu_user> aarrrgghh
[17:03] <tensorpudding> jonii2: that happened to me randomly, i changed the theme back and logged out and logged back in and it looked fine
[17:03] <axisys> xangua: oh ok
[17:03] <scorch2> so
[17:03] <jonii2> tensorpudding: alright i'll try that
[17:03] <rumpe1> Sledge, usually reboots are only necessary after deep system updates... i would recommend you try it with google chrome, which has a own flash builtin
[17:03] <tensorpudding> jonii2: also how did you get the launcher on the right?
[17:04] <Sledge> rumpe1 just did, didnt work.
[17:04] <plastic> hi all!
[17:04] <axisys> xangua: i see.. i was looking for google chrome which is based on chromium
[17:04] <scorch2> xangu there was nothing wrong with what i said
[17:04] <mikinanuq> jw_: how many drives in the RAID? what RAID system are you using?
[17:04] <xangua> axisys: download it from google chrome's web
[17:04] <rumpe1> Sledge, ok. Next step i would recommend is starting browser by terminal and check for error-messages / warnings
[17:04] <xangua> ...
[17:04] <Barridus> does gwibber... uh... work?
[17:05] <jw_> RAID 0 2 drives
[17:05] <PalinBachman2012> Barridus: its not the prettiest, but it works for me
[17:05] <jw_> I partitioned off space for Ubuntu the rest is Win7
[17:05] <trijntje> How can I enable middle click emulation in natty?
[17:05] <axisys> xangua: will it autoupdate like ppa does ?
[17:05] <azoz> هااااي
[17:05] <PalinBachman2012> Barridus: to see it you need to click on the mail envelope, and then on notifications
[17:05] <mikinanuq> jw_: it's been a long time since I've used RAID but usually putting the OS on a mirror of two drives and the data on a stripe with parity worked fine. Now with drives getting so big I hear striped with parity is not that great.
[17:05] <zzecool> Barridus,  try to install adobe air and after that tweeterdeck
[17:05] <Sledge> rumpe1, (firefox-bin:2658): LIBDBUSMENU-GTK-CRITICAL **: dbusmenu_menuitem_property_set_shortcut: assertion `gtk_accelerator_valid(key, modifier)' failed
[17:05] <zzecool> it rocks for tweeter
[17:05] <rumpe1> Sledge, otherwise... well... maybe delete flash-profile? ($HOME/.adobe/...) reinstall flashplugin?
[17:05] <zzecool> maybe the best :P
[17:05] <azoz> احد يتكلم عربي
[17:06] <tensorpudding> !arabic | azoz
[17:06] <greylurk_> axisys in 10.10 it has... I haven't tested in 11.04
[17:06] <xangua> axisys: i supose it adds google's repository, never used it
[17:06] <PresuntoRJ> !farsi | azoz
[17:06] <azoz> عربي
[17:06] <Barridus> zzecool, yeah but i just wanted to see if gwibber worked.  i'm getting no tweets so i guess not?
[17:06] <rumpe1> Sledge, doesn't sound like a relevant error
[17:06] <jonii2> tensorpudding: ok well its better, but the menu bars have black text on a black bar and i can't change it, and i still can't move windows by draging their bar. is there a new way to do it now?
[17:06] <axisys> greylurk_: it has ppa in 10.10 you mean? do you have the link?
[17:06] <truepurple> Someone here have experience/knowledge of ATI drivers?
[17:06] <rumpe1> Sledge, which ubuntu btw? 64bit?
[17:06] <zzecool> Barridus, didnt try it on natty
[17:06] <zzecool> dont rly know
[17:06] <Sledge> rumpe1 , yes 64bit
[17:06] <rumpe1> Sledge, ati-card?
[17:06] <Guest68448> kkal: there is some sort of file I must download through synaptic that let's my laptop communicate properly with my mp4 player. I am sorry I don't know the terminology.
[17:06] <Sledge> rumpe1 i think
[17:07] <Sledge> NVIDIA
[17:07] <axisys> xangua: ppa or the direct download from google ?
[17:07] <azoz> علموني زيكم
[17:07] <Sledge> rumpe1 whats that command to see what im running again?
[17:07] <greylurk_> axisys the deb on google's site installs the ppa too
[17:07] <azoz> عطوني وجه
[17:07] <tensorpudding> jonii2: you can't move windows by title bar?
[17:07] <PresuntoRJ> !english | azoz
[17:07] <Guest68448> kkal: I've downloaded and solved the problem in the past, but I just cannot remember the name of it.
[17:07] <jonii2> tensorpudding: no nothing happens
[17:07] <axisys> greylurk_: nice! then I should be set
[17:07] <rumpe1> Sledge, uname -a , lsb_release -a
[17:07] <sd> Ok, I installed latest ubuntu and I can't find workspaces - like there is only one workspace. Any ideas?
[17:07] <Chrom_> anyone using gnome classic in 11.04? the trash applet is not working (can't drag icons on it)
[17:07] <azoz> اكتب عربي
[17:07] <jonii2> tensorpudding: the buttons work but even if i right click > move it won'd move the windows
[17:07] <sd> I use Gnome
[17:07] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: i think you might b e having probs with multiple moniters
[17:08] <zzecool> prolly azoz cant change language input
[17:08] <zzecool> lol
[17:08] <azoz> تكفون علموني
[17:08] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: -.-
[17:08] <Sledge> rumpe1 Linux sledge-pc 2.6.38-8-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Mon Apr 11 03:31:24 UTC 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[17:08] <Ubuntu_user> azoz:  what that join #ubuntu-ir
[17:08] <tensorpudding> jonii2: can you move it by holding Alt and dragging?
[17:08] <Sledge> 64 bit.
[17:08] <greylurk_> the more I use unity, the better I like it.
[17:08] <jonii2> tensorpudding: nope
[17:09] <PresuntoRJ> azoz: what is an Atoni ?
[17:09] <azoz> how
[17:09] <sd> Ok, I installed latest ubuntu and I can't find workspaces - like there is only one workspace. Any ideas?
[17:09] <rumpe1> Sledge, yes... but still. Try to reinstall and / or move/delete .adobe-profile directory
[17:09] <zzecool> azoz double click it
[17:09] <bluefoxicy> crap
[17:09] <bluenemo> i love the by default choosable wallpapers for ubuntu and want those on my debian boxes as well. where can i find all of them (i dont mean just the default wallpaper but the @ install included pictures as well)
[17:09]  * greylurk_ boggles that sun-java-6 hasn't been renamed to oracle-java-6 yet, and that eclipse 3.4 is still the default install in natty
[17:09] <rumpe1> Sledge, if this doesn't work i'm also clueless :/  ... flash is a mess
[17:09] <bluefoxicy> I upgraded to 11.04 and I went from 16 virtual desktops to 4
[17:09] <bluefoxicy> what the hell?
[17:09] <zzecool> bluefoxicy,
[17:10] <zzecool> do you have compiz settings manager installed?
[17:10] <bluefoxicy> this is screwing with my spatial orientation
[17:10] <tensorpudding> bluefoxicy: were you using compiz before?
[17:10] <PalinBachman2012> bluefoxicy: install compizsettings and change your number of destops
[17:10] <Sledge> rumpe1 ok thanks
[17:10] <bluefoxicy> tensorpudding:  yeah I was using compiz, now I'm on Unity
[17:10] <cyberkilla> It's just a compiz plugin.
[17:10] <PalinBachman2012> is the compizconfig-settings-manager
[17:10] <azoz> مافيه احد يتكلم عربي
[17:10] <tensorpudding> bluefoxicy: well, unity still uses compiz, so i guess it's a bit freaky that it forgot
[17:10] <hobbsc> can someone point me to documentation on installing sun-java under 11.04?
[17:10] <bluefoxicy> tensorpudding:  oh, EVERYTHING broke on the upgrade
[17:11] <Epilog> hi there
[17:11] <scorch2> yeah
[17:11] <erealz> ok is anyone likeing the 11.04 unity desktop?
[17:11] <Sledge> so delete Flash_player DIRECTORY?
[17:11] <Epilog> I'm having a lot of problems with two new class 10 sd card
[17:11] <scorch2> fo ri"_
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> and then I tried installing gnome3 ppa to get Gnome-shell, and had to reinstall ubuntu
[17:11] <scorch2> lol
[17:11] <greylurk_> ereals It's pretty good, once you get used to it.
[17:11] <Epilog> a lot of -110 errors input/output
[17:11] <Epilog> anyone knows anything about this?
[17:11] <azoz> هااااي
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> tensorpudding:  the stupidest thing was immediately after upgrading (before trying to get gnome-shell), I couldn't open folders
[17:11] <azoz> ولكم
[17:11] <FloodBot3> azoz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:11] <scorch2> crip a dip man
[17:11] <PalinBachman2012> that gnome shell ppa will break unity, use jhbbuild
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> anything that accessed an inode/directory opened it with vlc
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> so if I hit "Home Folder," VLC opened.
[17:11] <bluefoxicy> etc
[17:11] <axisys> greylurk_: nice! like you said after installing the google chrome the repository added google download link
[17:12] <bluefoxicy> I found in ~/.local/ blahblahblah there was a file that contained "Deleted associations" that had that
[17:12] <bluefoxicy> and it used it, even though it was a deleted association
[17:12] <greylurk_> axisys no problem.
[17:12] <jonii2> hey, ok so i disabled my other monitor and STILL i have black text on a black menu bar and STILL i can't move any windows
[17:12] <scorch2> true that
[17:12] <bluefoxicy> because it was "deleted," no interface exposed it to me; I had to find the configuration file and remove the line
[17:12] <bluefoxicy> @_@
[17:12] <zzecool> bluefoxicy,  looks like your installation is borged go with a clean install
[17:12] <scorch2> cool
[17:12] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you are using the restricted drivers from nvidia?
[17:12] <Sledge> rumpe1 so delete Flash_player DIRECTORY?
[17:12] <scorch2> yes
[17:12] <sda> hi all! Question, with monitor applet i can see read and write disk usage, can I see it with a terminal command? Thanks!
[17:13] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  clean install wouldn't have fixed that; that was in my /home directory
[17:13] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: yes
[17:13] <bluefoxicy> zzecool: so I fixed that, and then did a clean install
[17:13] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: hmm
[17:13] <scorch2> its that
[17:13] <Sidewinder1> !farsi > azoz
[17:13] <coreire> Hey, I'm trying to reinstall grub after installing windows. I've installed grub to the drive and it says everything went ok, but when I run "update-grub" it responds with "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'."
[17:13] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you might need to file a bug report...
[17:13] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  and then found ALL MY DATA was gone and -- oh, it mounted /home subvol=@home, the heck is this?  ... modified fstab and got all my files back.
[17:13] <rumpe1> Sledge, flash-player-config-directory in your home... or just move it somewhere else
[17:13] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012:  ok so its just this theme that is broken, other themes work ok, but still i can't move windows
[17:13] <zzecool> clean install = back up home dir and then formated + install
[17:13] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: ugh
[17:13] <scorch2> triping daisys
[17:13] <zzecool> format it *
[17:13] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  I have 500 gigs in /home, what the hell do I back up to?
[17:13] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: did you upgrade, or do a fresh install?
[17:14] <tensorpudding> jonii2: which theme are you using anyway
[17:14] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I upgraded
[17:14] <zzecool> an external drive
[17:14] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  it's on a separate partition, as well.
[17:14] <zzecool> can help you on this
[17:14] <kasper> I want to add Evernote and URT to the Unity menu. Somehow I dont see how to do it :( can anyone help ?
[17:14] <zzecool> i know
[17:14]  * bluefoxicy doesn't have a $100 external drive
[17:14] <bluefoxicy> anyway
[17:14] <scorch2> h
[17:14] <jonii2> tensorpudding: Well i'm using the Ubuntu studio theme but i can switch to other ones and the text looks ok, but nothing fixes my frozen windows
[17:14] <kkal> Guest68448: gnokii?
[17:14] <zzecool> home partition keep many configurations that can borg aninstallation
[17:14] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: you might try creating a new user, logging out completly, and logging in as him
[17:14] <bluefoxicy> I danced around the issue, it works now, other than Unity being not total crap, but not great.
[17:14] <tensorpudding> jonii2: did alt+dragging not move them?
[17:14] <jonii2> tensorpudding: nope that did nothing
[17:15] <jonii2> tensorpudding: alt doesn't do anything at all
[17:15] <zzecool> bluefoxicy, i think that you gonna love it in time
[17:15] <zzecool> :D
[17:15] <zzecool> i did
[17:15] <katsrc> hey all
[17:15] <tensorpudding> jonii2: does the mouse work?
[17:15] <zzecool> learn the shortcuts
[17:15] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  no, I didn't love it in the 90s and I don't love it now.
[17:15] <greylurk_> The only thing I'm not liking about Unity is placing the system preferences under the shutdown icon.
[17:15] <jonii2> tensorpudding: yep the mouse works, it works the same with/without alt
[17:15] <zzecool> 90's ? unity?
[17:15] <Guest68448> kkal: can't remember but I'll try it
[17:15] <Sledge> rumpe1 how do i liset hidden files and folders
[17:15] <KNUBBIG> greylurk_: so ture
[17:15] <katsrc> do i have to specify: export CFLAGS=“-march=native” in order to get 64bit builds?
[17:16] <KNUBBIG> true*
[17:16] <kasper> Is there some admin for the Unity menu ?
[17:16] <bluefoxicy> zzecool: replace the Ubuntu icon in the top left with a black and white Apple icon
[17:16] <tensorpudding> jonii2: that's really weird
[17:16] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  welcome to MacOS6
[17:16] <katsrc> or is there a configuration some where that already does that?
[17:16] <jonii2> tensorpudding: linux is soooo confusing
[17:16] <zzecool> erm
[17:16] <axisys> is there a way to put the unity menu on the bottom instead of on the left side?
[17:16] <Cleaver> Im trying to install teamspeak3 from a run script, after some text, and this dialog comes up promting me to press end, how do i do that? Enter doesnt work, end doesnt, e doesnt. Ect. What do I do?
[17:16] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: it can be when things go wrong, like in an upgrade
[17:16] <bluefoxicy> who decided that menus belong at the top of the screen, instead of the top of the window
[17:16] <zzecool> bluefoxicy,  you can still use ubuntu classic
[17:17] <zzecool> and have the gnome 2 look
[17:17] <KNUBBIG> Cleaver: did you download it from the official site? Client or server?
[17:17] <Guest68448> kkal: I'm not sure this is the right one but yes it is this sort of program
[17:17] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: i suppose that was a bad idea, to upgrade
[17:17] <Cleaver> Client, and yes
[17:17] <Cleaver> Its just me not being able to get any further
[17:17] <Sledge> rumpe1 im in /home/name/.adobe
[17:17] <Cleaver> Simple matter of me not knowing what to press :|
[17:17] <tensorpudding> jonii2: here's a debugging thing, try opening a terminal and doing 'mv ~/.config ~/.config-backup'
[17:17] <tensorpudding> jonii2: then log out and log back in
[17:17] <pr3d4t0r> Hello.
[17:17] <bluefoxicy> zzecool:  I know.  I'm toying with Unity so that when Gnome3 is available and I switch to Gnome shell I can claim I've used Unity extensively.  The initial shock is wayning.  I've toyed with gnome-shell though.
[17:17] <kasper> did anyone have trouble adding shourtcuts to the Unity menu ?
[17:17] <KNUBBIG> Cleaver: no need to install, just ./ts*****_runscript start (don't remember the exact name)
[17:18] <KNUBBIG> Cleaver: or was it _startscript? NO idea, sorry :p
[17:18] <tensorpudding> what does unity have to do with mac os 6?
[17:18] <scorch2> !language xangua
[17:18] <kasper> is there a cahnnel for Unity ?
[17:18] <jonii2> tensorpudding: ok, relogging
[17:18] <Cleaver> File called TeamSpeak3-Client-linux_amd64-3.0.0-beta36.run
[17:18] <raven_> need any codeline for: if filetype = image ending=getfileending then do......
[17:18] <KNUBBIG> Cleaver: no, you whould have a ts3client_startscript or sth like that
[17:18] <iceroot> raven_: #bash
[17:19] <KNUBBIG> Cleaver: just download .tar.gz, extract it and start the starscript with the "start" argument
[17:19] <ubuntu> cant boot into 11.04, blank screen???
[17:19] <OY1R> when booting the laptop stops and poses a grub_ prompt. can anyone help me fix it ?
[17:19] <zzecool> bluefoxicy,  go here http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html and read
[17:19] <zzecool> bluefoxicy,  there is even a way to remove the global menu
[17:20] <zzecool> enough said
[17:21] <jaypro> ridiculous... any computer name i type in the ubuntu 11.04 desktop installation it says the name is already on the network, and i cant proceed
[17:21] <hypetech> jaypro: just continue filling in the fields and it will change
[17:21] <warp_> any ideas?
[17:21] <coreire> Hey, I'm trying to reinstall grub after installing windows. I've installed grub to the drive and it says everything went ok, but when I run "update-grub" it responds with "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'." Anyone know what'd cause that?
[17:22] <djazz> hmm, blueman doesnt seem to work with the "new" panel
[17:22] <tensorpudding> oh damn, that was a bad idea
[17:22] <NUSHOR> I don't like unity at all
[17:22] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:22] <tensorpudding> i think having jonii move the .config might prevent him from connecting to irc...
[17:22] <Cleaver> thanks :)
[17:22] <jaypro> lol... okay user error.. thanks hypetech
[17:22] <Oday> is there a good query builder that you know of?
[17:22] <ubuntu_> cannot boot into 11.04, just blank screen
[17:23] <Oday> on Software Center nothing shows up
[17:23] <Sledge> Doesanyone have any experience installing flashplayer.SO file
[17:23] <PalinBachman2012> tensorpudding: \0/
[17:23]  * Dr_Willis wonders what a Query BUilder does.
[17:23] <KM0201> ubuntu_: so how are you here now?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> Sledge:  why not use the flash package?
[17:23] <xangua> Sledge: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[17:23] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: why it builds querry's of course. :)
[17:23] <NUSHOR> That one
[17:23] <warp_> any ideas on how to resume a broken version upgrade process?
[17:23] <Dr_Willis> KM0201:  I want one in plaid!
[17:23] <KM0201> Dr_Willis: :)
[17:23] <Sledge> xangua this is 64bit
[17:24] <awesomechairs> warp_, sudo spkg --reconfigure-a
[17:24] <awesomechairs> should work
[17:24] <NUSHOR> Sledge still works :-P
[17:24] <awesomechairs> *dpkg, sorry
[17:24] <xangua> !google flash 64 ppa
[17:24] <xangua> Sledge: try the 64bit plugin ppa
[17:24] <Guest68448> kkal: no, that didn't work. However, in the mp4 player I could finally see the avi file. But, unfortunately I got the message it was an unsupported file. This has something to do with communication between Ubuntu and the mp4 player.
[17:24] <mikinanuq> warp_: why would you want to? if an upgrade craps out I'd reinstall and dump the upgrade
[17:24] <Antilect> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB7jSFeVz1U&feature=player_embedded#at=20
[17:24] <coder2> i want to pack all the packages installed in my machine......ubuntu lucid???
[17:24] <Guest51304> guys i installed gnome shell 3 now the thing is i can't see the gnome bluetooth icon on the panel how can i bring it back
[17:24] <Dr_Willis> !aptoncd | coder2
[17:24] <Sledge> rumpe1,  you still here?
[17:24] <pr3d4t0r> Q. Ubuntu Server Dapper Drake - over the last 6 months one of the NICs on the gateway started requiring continuous restarts (modprobe -r).  The gateway has been on-line, non-stop since Jan 2007.  I suspect NIC hardware failure.  Planning to upgrade the server today and replace NIC.  Do you have any suggestions for troubleshooting if NIC is all that's screwy in the machine?
[17:25] <pr3d4t0r> Thanks in advance.
[17:25] <xangua> !gnome3 | Guest51304
[17:25] <warp_> thanks awesomechairs
[17:25] <awesomechairs> np :)
[17:25] <warp_> i will try that...\
[17:25] <KNUBBIG> Guest51304: you may have to ask on the Gnome IRC, google for it (sorry don't know the exact channel/network, should be irc.gnome.org)
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  dapper? i think its time to upgrade.  sounds like HW issues to me also.
[17:25] <coder2> Dr_Willis: any other option
[17:25] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Yeah.
[17:25] <Dr_Willis> coder2:  clarify what you want to do exactly
[17:26] <awesomechairs> wait no, dpkg --configure-a, not reconfigure
[17:26] <awesomechairs> my mistake
[17:26] <yehudah> help
[17:26] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  given how easy it is to swap out a NIC. :)  in the time to trouble shoot. you could have it done 10 times.
[17:26] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: There is also another odd behavior:  every Saturday at around 2000 PDT / PST, the server stops.  It isn't always at the same exact time, though, and at and cron look clean.
[17:26] <Omega> !question | yehudah
[17:26] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Heh - indeed.
[17:26] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: The thing is - the server is at my home in San Francisco and I live in Moscow now :)
[17:27] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: So I'm cramming that today, before I head back on Wednesday ;)
[17:27] <Acriax> http://imgur.com/P47aa <- Does anyone know why I get this light grey theme? For about 10 seconds after I login I have the standard dark theme, but then it switches over to this :(
[17:27] <coder2> Dr_Willis: i have 10.04 and want to upgrade to 11.04 or can format my laptop and install it,actually i dont have a good internet connection....so all my installed packages will be lost if i format my drive
[17:27] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  somthing seems logically wrong. :) Your Home is in San Franscido.. but you dont live at home? :)
[17:27] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Right.  Long story :)
[17:27] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Or rather, I'm lucky to have two homes :)
[17:27] <axisys> when I try to run a video in metacafe using google chrome it just says missing link.. anyone knows the fix?
[17:27] <Guest68448> 11.04 isn't communicatiing properly with my external mp4 player. Any ideas?
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> coder2:  i would suggest a clean install and you dont backup your package files to 11.04 you reinstall the ones you have installed.
[17:28] <OY1R> after getting this error > http://pastebin.com/i2ZahWqH (mount /dev on /root failed invalid argument), i was told to reinstall grub, now when i reboot i only get a grub prompt_ anyone ? using ubuntu 10.10.
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> !clone | coder2
[17:28] <zarbula> Ubuntu, I upgraded to 11.04 from 10.10, running a custom 2.39 kernel and the Nvidia beta.  After I allowed the upgrade I am getting the Nvidia API error.  Should I recompile my custom Kernel again?
[17:28] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Another question:  Ubuntu installation is so old that I can't just apt-get upgrade.
[17:28] <tensorpudding> jonii2: sorry
[17:28] <jonii2> tensorpudding: hmm?
[17:28] <jonii2> tensorpudding: i just got back lol
[17:28] <pod88> hi all, quick question, does anyone know how to make wobbly windows not wobble when focus changes?
[17:28] <zarbula> 2.6.39*
[17:28] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  you can if you elable the archive servers. I forget the names of them. BUt that old an install.. i would do a clean install
[17:28] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Is it *possible* for me to force an upgrade to 10.04 LTS or newer by "wiping out" the current Ubuntu config?
[17:28] <tensorpudding> jonii2: i didn't mention that doing that would restore your configuration to default
[17:29] <tensorpudding> jonii2: but did it solve the issues?
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  you enable the right repos and you can still upgrade i think. but i dont recall how
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> !eol
[17:29] <jonii2> tensorpudding: well i did your command and it didn't fix anything, but my configurations weren't changed much from default
[17:29] <jonii2> tensorpudding: but when i made a new account it works fine
[17:29] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Or should I just backup the service and user accounts, and install from CD?
[17:29] <tensorpudding> jonii2: huh
[17:29] <jonii2> tensorpudding: maybe i typed in your command wrong or something
[17:29] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Yeah, I heard that but I screwed up the repo trying to do that about 18 months ago.
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  given that a upgrade will take forever... and may fail.
[17:29] <tensorpudding> jonii2: would seem to imply that it's some configuration somewhere else
[17:29] <sda> hi all! Question, with monitor applet i can see read and write disk usage, can I see it with a terminal command? Thanks!
[17:29] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  i would keep /home/ and do a clean install
[17:30] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: so its a configuration issue of some sort, held over from your previous installs and tweaks
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: OKi - I'll just back the beast up.  Thanks :)
[17:30] <iceroot> sda: iotop
[17:30] <tensorpudding> jonii2: if you want to keep your old account but wipe out all your configuration, you could obliterate the ~/.config and ~/.local directories
[17:30] <jonii2> :( oh well i guess i'll just make a new account thats NOT named testing :D and use that, as long as it works
[17:30] <axisys> i cannot install metacafe video from ff either.. missing plugin
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: I'm keeping /home, /etc (for reference) and /var/lib/named for the gateway.  Everything else I don't care.
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Thanks for your help.
[17:30] <jonii2> tensorpudding: ok i'll try that, how do i delete  them?
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Oh, and I'll buy a new NIC :)
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: I appreciate your help :)
[17:30] <axisys> any pkg that will intsall all the plugins? or a list of pkgs?
[17:30] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  get 3 :)
[17:30] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: 3...?
[17:30] <sda> iceroot, iotop isn't installed! how system monitor can see io use?
[17:30] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: so you can move your windows, and your theme looks fine now?
[17:30] <tensorpudding> jonii2: you could go and open the file manager, and show hidden files, they appear under you home directory as .config and .local
[17:31] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Oh, for swapping - heh.
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> pr3d4t0r:  moar is better. :)
[17:31] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Heh.
[17:31] <Hotmedal> what is this largedesktop in unity that won't let me enable desktop cube?
[17:31] <jonii2> PalinBachman2012: I can move my windows on a new user account, and my theme looks.... terribly designed but thats not your guyses fault
[17:31] <coreire> I'm installing grub from the 11.04 live-cd using this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows. When I install grub it says it went ok, but no grub.cfg is created. If I run "sudo update-grub" I get the error "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot stat `aufs'"
[17:31] <Dr_Willis> Hotmedal:  some extra plugins used by Unity i imagine. Cube can break unity i think. Or so i notices on the askubuntu web site
[17:31] <PalinBachman2012> jonii2: lol
[17:31]  * Dr_Willis hopes unity kills the cube
[17:32] <Hotmedal> Unity looks boring
[17:32] <warp_> awesomechairs: that didnt work!
[17:32] <zarbula> If I'm running a custom kernel and I did the 11.04 upgrade should I recompile my kernel or is it ok?
[17:32] <jonii2> tensorpudding: ok, i did that, ima relog
[17:32] <Hotmedal> how can I switch to normal Gnome
[17:32] <tensorpudding> jonii2: unfortunately most gnome themes don't work so well with unity
[17:32] <Hotmedal> ?
[17:32] <tensorpudding> jonii2: before you do
[17:32] <jonii2> ok
[17:32] <tensorpudding> jonii2: forgot to mention you might need to get rid of .gconf
[17:32] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: This is a Tynan/Rackable enterprise server with dual AMD64s.  I don't want to toss it for no reason.  Though I'm thinking it may be faster to just get a new server to replace it and put LTS on it.  Then migrate instead of rebuild.  Then wipe the old one and sell it on Craig's List :)
[17:32] <jonii2> tensorpudding: ok i'll get rid of that one to
[17:32] <xangua> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/d0od/~3/bB9sFMlHRdw/ Dr_Willis Hotmedal
[17:33] <theclaw> hi
[17:33] <warp_> how can I upgrade from Ubuntu install CD?
[17:33] <xangua> enable cube from omg!ubuntu! *
[17:33] <jonii2> tensorpudding: what about gconfd?
[17:33] <pr3d4t0r> Dr_Willis: Which Ubuntu Server should I use?  10.04 LTS or the newer one and just try to stay current with the upgrades?
[17:33] <mikinanuq> Hotmedal Dr_Willis yes the cube kills Unity... confirmed :)
[17:33] <pod88> Hotmedal, at logon choose ubuntu classic
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/38432/how-to-get-compiz-cube-effect-to-work
[17:33] <tensorpudding> jonii2: i think that's just shared files, not configuration, so it probably isn't a problem?
[17:33] <tensorpudding> jonii2: but you can wipe it too
[17:33] <xangua> warp_: if you use maverik, it will ask you if you want to upgrade
[17:33] <Dr_Willis> askubuntu - is going to be so handy. :)
[17:33] <Hotmedal> ohh
[17:33] <ShiverOnBT4> Hello, anyone awake?
[17:33] <Hotmedal> nice
[17:33] <jonii2> tensorpudding: alright thanks, relogging
[17:33] <KM0201> warp_: from the ubuntu install cd?.. i don't think you can, you have to use the alt. cd
[17:33] <kk9822> hi
[17:33] <tomasz> czeka
[17:34] <kk9822> what is ver for laptops
[17:34] <kk9822> ie ubuntu 11,04
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> the normal desktop cd  is for laptops and netbooks and desktop machines.
[17:34] <besogon> Hi. Does Eee-control work?
[17:34] <warp_> xangua: I use Maverick, but laptop crashes in the middle of the upgrade process
[17:34] <headnotfound> hey there
[17:34] <uninspired> My question does not contain any unity bashing, i would really like to give it a try -- but am failing to get it setup as i would like. I have a dual monitor setup, an external screen hooked up to a laptop. I set the external screen as primary display hoping it would show the dock on there but that unfortunately did not work. The global menu does show up on both screens, does anyone have any suggestions ? ( i did set the external
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> the alt-cd is for problem machines, low ram, or other special cases
[17:34] <Guest68448> Hello, I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. However, they work fine when transferred from Windoze.
[17:34] <crlcan81> Somehow I hit a command in xchat IRC client which made it go 'fullscreen' where there's no top bar/menu, unless I go to another program. What is the keyboard command for that?
[17:34] <mikinanuq> kk9822: the regular ubuntu is for laptops there is a netbook version which is for small screen laptops "netbooks"
[17:34] <ShiverOnBT4> Got a question. Is there any way to password protect an open console so it wont be closed by accident?
[17:34] <headnotfound> anyone using gnome3?
[17:34] <kk9822> is it 32 bit or sixty four
[17:34] <yehudah> cannot boot into 11.04 just hanging on blank screen
[17:34] <Dr_Willis> uninspired:  unity has issues with dual monitors it seems. Ive not tried that part yet.
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> uninspired:  i do recall some months back when i was messing with Global menu. there being some settings for it.. somewhere.
[17:35] <xangua> !gnome3 | headnotfound
[17:35] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: thank you, it's a bit inconvenient to go from the "main screen" to the "secondary" to open up applications.
[17:35] <Dr_Willis> but really. i dont care for global many. :)  so did not reserach it much.
[17:36] <Pelo> OMG, it burns, how do i get back to vanilla gnome ?
[17:36] <Guest68448> yehudah: I had the same problem and found the solution on google. It was something about changing a setting in the first screen
[17:36] <tensorpudding> ShiverOnBT4: open console as in a terminal emulator or one of the system consoles?
[17:36] <besogon> Unity is the best
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> uninspired:  you could reorder your mionitors i guess.
[17:36] <besogon> :)
[17:36] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: the only settings i can find are wether to unfold the dock when hovering the mouse on the left or left angle.
[17:36] <mikinanuq> ShiverOnBT4: try using "screen" even if the window is closed the console is open in the background..
[17:36] <Dr_Willis> Unity - 'warning men at work' :)
[17:36] <yehudah> which first screen?
[17:36] <Guest68448> yehuda: gimme a sec to see if I can find the link for you
[17:36] <terrylm> X, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x
[17:36] <besogon> ubottu:  funcontrol
[17:37] <headnotfound> ok, thanks
[17:37] <jonii2> tensorpudding: your my new best friend ever! you fixed it!
[17:37] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: reorder meaning?
[17:37] <kk9822> hi pl confirm i should opt for thrity two or sixyfour
[17:37] <kk9822> pl
[17:37] <tensorpudding> jonii2: i guess :)
[17:37] <jonii2> tensorpudding: still, terrible black on black menu bar but thats studio's fault not yours
[17:37] <ShiverOnBT4> wow im lagged. if anyone can answer that question pls pm it to me
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> uninspired:   I think the panel stuff apears on the primary monitor. at least thats what my nvidia-settings tool calls it.
[17:37] <pr3d4t0r> Have a nice day peeps :)
[17:37] <tensorpudding> jonii2: you'd be less happy if you had a lot of application configuration that you just needed to wipe
[17:37] <Dr_Willis> uninspired:  perhaps check --> http://askubuntu.com/search?q=dual+monitor
[17:37] <kk9822> what is peeps
[17:37] <warp_> xangua: any ideas?
[17:37] <yehudah> Guest68448: can we go to pvt chat?
[17:37] <jonii2> tensorpudding: omg epic sadface
[17:37] <mikinanuq> ShiverOnBT4: try using "screen" even if the window is closed the console is open in the background..
[17:37] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: right, thats what i did i set my external monitor as primary, still no go.
[17:38] <ikonia> ShiverOnBT4: are you using backtrack ?
[17:38] <coder2> Dr_Willis: you recommendedme clean install why so?is there problem in upgrading?
[17:38] <eiriksvin> is there an easy way to install this on Ubuntu 10.10: http://dbgthekafu.deviantart.com/art/black-white-2-Style-73276755
[17:38] <jonii2> tensorpudding: to get the unity bar to pop out i have to put my mouse at the left side of my left screen, and it pops up on the left side of my right screen :(
[17:38] <tensorpudding> but i mean, you could go and comb through that directory to find the specific ones that's causing the problems, and save the rest, but it's really tedious
[17:38] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: i'll try the link you gave me, thank you.
[17:38] <Guest68448> yehudah: sorry, I am new here and don't know how to do it. However, I have your answer here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1685134
[17:38] <tensorpudding> jonii2: that's unfortunate :|
[17:39] <kk9822> what is this 32 and sixty four
[17:39] <jonii2> tensorpudding: maybe not, i think i can swap my screens so my main is on the left and secondary is on the right, then it won't be bad
[17:39] <kk9822> got to do with installation
[17:39] <kk9822> of ubuntu
[17:39] <ikonia> kk9822: different processor capabailities
[17:39] <Guest68448> Hello, I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. However, they work fine when transferred from Windoze. Please save me from having to reinstall Windoze!!!
[17:39] <kk9822> so what i should choose i have a dell studio
[17:39] <tensorpudding> kk9822: if you don't really care, choose the 32-bit one
[17:40] <ikonia> Guest68448: it's called "Windows"
[17:40] <Crazy1> hello ,when i use vim to create an text ,how did i quit from it without reserve it
[17:40] <ikonia> kk9822: 32bit seems the sensible option unless you have 4GB of ram or more
[17:40] <jonii2> tensorpudding: thanks dude, your awesome, and you actually told me to use the filemanager instead of some super long terminal command. :D alright i need to go bask in the new Unity awesomeness, see you later
[17:40] <Crazy1> did anyone know?
[17:40] <ufoz> hi all. i did a dist upgrade to 11.04. In the Dash i cant search for applications, i cant start the multimedia applications.
[17:40] <Ampelbein> Crazy1: ':wq'
[17:40] <ikonia> Crazy1: :q!
[17:40] <Guest68448> ikonia: yes, in some circles. ;)
[17:40] <pod88> anyone here a compiz genius?
[17:41] <iceroot> pod88: #compiz
[17:41] <ikonia> Guest68448: in this one, it's called "windows"
[17:41] <warp_> how to resume from a failed upgrade process? I was upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04 when my laptop crashs due to battery failure... any ideas?
[17:41] <pod88> iceroot, thanks
[17:41] <Ampelbein> hmm, ikonia I think we parsed the question from crazy1 differently ;-)
[17:41] <iceroot> warp_: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:41] <ikonia> warp_: depends on what stage it crashes, just re-do the upgrade process
[17:41] <uninspired> Dr_Willis: have the same problem as alfalive on this ticket: http://askubuntu.com/questions/17074/dual-monitor-unity-launcher-opening-on-wrong-monitor
[17:41] <BKTech86> when i boot up ubuntu on my laptop with live cd, the load screen looks normal, with good resolution, but when i boot from disk, it is all pixelated and the screen flickers a few times -- what's with that?
[17:41] <Guest68448> ikonia: is that a rule or a preference?
[17:41] <uninspired> not sure why he says "good news" tho :P
[17:42] <warp_> iceroot thanks
[17:42] <pod88> iceroot, thier channel banner says no useer support :(
[17:42] <ikonia> Guest68448: showing some respect by using the proper product name, and communitcating cleary,
[17:43] <IdleOne> Guest68448: The idea is that we can't expect the Windows community to take the Linux community serious if we can't even use the proper spelling of their OS of choice.
[17:44] <Crazy1> ikonia: thank you,it works
[17:44] <ufoz> i try to search for installed applications in the unity dash. but nothing happens. it wont search
[17:44] <warp_> ikonia: I will try sudo dpkg --configure -a suggested by iceroot, but I think it was at the third pass...
[17:44] <ricardo> hello ubuntuS
[17:44] <Guest68448> ikonia: sorry, but as a newb I'm lost when it comes to terminology. I've had this problem in the past but cannot remember the name of the program I need. As for respect, after spending a bundle and reinstalling on the 20th time, I was shown respect by not being allowed to reinstall until I sent them 199 USD for a new key.
[17:44] <Kruptein> It has probably been asked a lot,   but what are possible solutions to improve my performance but sticking to unity?  I really notice a larger difference in speed compared to 10.10
[17:45] <ikonia> Guest68448: you've just said random words, you know the product is called "Windows" - call it "windows" please rather than trying to make excuses, then someone may actually help you
[17:45] <ricardo> hello, anyone can help-me
[17:45] <ikonia> ricardo: if you ask a question
[17:45] <thiebaude> !offtopic
[17:45] <ricardo> baterry estimation on ubuntu
[17:46] <ikonia> ricardo: depends on your hardware, and what you're doing - rule of thumb is same as windows
[17:46] <Guest68448> ikonia: you just got here. I've been here for hours and others have been trying to help. But I lack the terminology to clearly explain the problem with my mp4 player.
[17:46] <Dr_Willis> ricardo:  i get better battery life under windows on my laptop. but only if i enable its extreme 'eco' mode feature. which  slows it down so much its barely useable. :)
[17:47] <ikonia> Guest68448: you KNOW the product is called windows, so don't use that as an excuse, if you use the correct term "windows" and clearly state your problem, maybe someone will help you
[17:47] <mick_st_john> ola a to2 y tod@s
[17:47] <MattAAron>  If I can do dual monitors on my video card now, and I buy another video card (exact same one as the one I have now), would I be able to do 4 monitors??
[17:47] <ricardo> This is a bug, right?  The status of the battery is ever:  estimation...
[17:47] <iceroot> MattAAron: yes
[17:47] <ikonia> MattAAron: depends on the xorg dirvers you're using, what video card is it ?
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> MattAAron:  if the pc can fit them all in.  and they are nvidia - just use the nvidia settings tool.
[17:47] <MattAAron> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150447
[17:47] <Dr_Willis> MattAAron:  you will need a big desk. :)
[17:47] <MattAAron> ATI, 5770
[17:47] <wildc4rd> would someone be so kind as to remind me of the code to change the maximise/minimise etc buttons back to the right hand side after an upgrade to narwhal
[17:48] <MattAAron> lol Dr
[17:48] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: no they can't
[17:48] <ikonia> it doesn't support multiple cards
[17:48] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: twinview only supports 1 card with multiple ports
[17:48] <Guest68448> ikonia: I was talking about Linux terminology. I couldn't care less about MS.
[17:48] <ikonia> Guest68448: I can, it's called "windows"
[17:48] <Sledge> LOL
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  ive used it with 3 monitors.  Not lately but about a year ago i did.
[17:48] <ubuntu> connect irc.server.net
[17:48] <MattAAron> so 2xRadeon 5770 = 4 monitors right?
[17:48] <mick_st_john> xico solo busca xica sola acepto privis
[17:48] <Guest68448> ikonia: I'm happy for you
[17:48] <tjiggi_fo> !es | mick_st_john
[17:49] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: 3d acceleration ?
[17:49] <ricardo> ikonia: Is possible fix this bug?
[17:49] <mrchak> would anybody feel magnanimous enough to help me with some problems with an Ubuntu 11.04 upgrade?
[17:49] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: eg: 3 monitors being spanned on two cards with 3d acceleration ?
[17:49] <ikonia> mrchak: just ask, people will help if they can
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  one card was onboard. other was an 8800gtsxxx  i just ran it that way for a few days . so dont recall.
[17:49] <GuyCanada> hey guys im having  problem where i cant get my hdmi output to work since upgrading to 11.04
[17:49] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  i do think compiz was working with it. I recall the cube effect being very very weird.
[17:49] <MnCC> is there a list of chipsets supported by unity ? cant find it
[17:50] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: let me double check this as I've actually spoke to people at nvidia about this hence my surprise
[17:50] <mrchak> I've just upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 using the Update manager and after the install, when the computer rebooted I got the Grub prompt and have been unable to boot into Ubuntu
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  it would be chipsets supported by X/Ubuntu.
[17:50] <Guest68448> Hello, I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. On the mp4 player I can see the folders but not the contents. In Ubuntu I can see the folder and contents of the mp4 player.
[17:50] <Cutepuppy> I am having an issue installing 11.4 on a Lenovo T500, crashing with a modprobe error, is there a workaround for this ?
[17:50] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  it may not have had 3d. i rarely use that stuff. I just wanted wide scrren. I also had issues where it would work.. but when i rebooted. it wold break. untill i reran nvidia-settings and restarted X.
[17:50] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, why is it complaining about not having good enough hardware ?
[17:51] <GuyCanada> is anyone else having an issue outputting hdmi with 11.04? im running a nvidia card and im not sure what to do
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  you dont have the drivers installed for 3d support - is the #1 answer to that question
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  hdmi video or are you refering to audio?
[17:51] <mrchak> I am currently running 11.04 live cd
[17:51] <thiebaude> !unity 2d
[17:51] <GuyCanada> dr_willis: video, sorry.
[17:51] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, how do i test this ?
[17:51] <Dr_Willis> !info unity-2d
[17:51] <Halt> yes?
[17:52] <thiebaude> thanks Dr,:)
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  run the addational-drivers tool and see what it says.
[17:52] <ikonia> Dr_Willis: still worth me checking up, thanks
[17:52] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, can tell you that now: nothing
[17:52] <GuyCanada> dr_willis: i used to be able to simple hit function-F8 to go to hdmi and it doesnt work anymore. ive already chaked that my keyboard is mapped properly
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> ikonia:  I cant even test. I had to pull out my 8800 to plug in a usb-3 card. :) and now the pc is now a lot quieter heh.
[17:52] <Guest27069> i recently reinstalled ubuntu and selected lvm during the install, but I noticed that ubuntu barely used my second hard drive and only place a swap partition on it. I was hoping someone could help me figure out if lvm is configured correctly
[17:52] <work> My tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  what is yoru video chipset?
[17:52] <pod88> bah, noone is alive in #compiz, anyone here good with it?
[17:53] <ikonia> Guest27069: how many disks are in the volume group ?
[17:53] <ben_> test
[17:53] <Kruptein> It has probably been asked a lot,   but what are possible solutions to improve my performance but sticking to unity?  I really notice a larger difference in speed compared to 10.10
[17:53] <ben_> dit is een test zo meteen kassa kijken
[17:53] <Guest27069> ikonia: not sure what you mean
[17:53] <ben_> www.radio-tv-nederland.nl
[17:53] <work> My tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?
[17:53] <ben_> bye God bless ya
[17:53] <AzoteLogiko> ben_ :D
[17:53] <jw_> Finally got on to 11.04 looks beautiful, Does compiz work at all?
[17:54] <ikonia> Guest27069: pastebin the output of these two commands please "mount" and then the output of "sudo vgdisplay"
[17:54] <ikonia> Guest27069: please use a pastebin for the output
[17:54] <russjr08> Hey guys, I need help removing kde, I installed kubuntu-desktop and when I try to remove it using the puregnome instructions from psychocats I get an error http://paste.ubuntu.com/601393/
[17:54] <Raiders32> I just upgraded to Natty.  How do you clear "Recent" which appears when you click on "Files & Folders" launcher button?
[17:54] <mrchak> I've just upgraded from Ubuntu 10.10 to 11.04 using the Update manager and after the install, when the computer rebooted I got the Grub prompt and have been unable to boot into Ubuntu
[17:54] <Dr_Willis> russjr08:  that guide may be a little outof date with the new releases.
[17:54] <terrylm> X, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x
[17:54] <russjr08> Dr_Willis, it says it's for Natty
[17:54] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: its video out, i used to be able to hit function-F8 to go to hdmi and ive checked that my keyboard is mapped properly
[17:55] <Guest68448> I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. On the mp4 player I can see the folders but not the contents. In Ubuntu I can see the folder and contents of the mp4 player. I had this problem before with PCLOS and was told to install a program that enabled communication between the OS and the mp4 player. It worked perfectly after. But I cannot remember the name of the program or the type of program it was.
[17:55] <work> My tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?
[17:55] <russjr08> "Getting Back to a Pure Gnome on Ubuntu
[17:55] <russjr08> Note, this applies only to Ubuntu 11.04 (Natty)."
[17:55] <muneeb> Is it necessary to have nspluginwrapper even if i install 64bit flash-plugin??
[17:55] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller] i915 driver attached, reenabling gpu turbo
[17:55] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  changeing displays on the fly. Hmm. once on my laptop - i had to enable the monitor using the monitors setting tool. and I recall needing to be plugged into the external when i powered up. Or else it would be a little flakey
[17:55] <pod88> noone... :(
[17:56] <rokyronnie> cause I wanted to combine 2 partitions without losing data I resized a partition by adding to it the free space from that HDD, so that's what I did, but, after rebot my PC runns very ver HARD, I opened Gparted, and guess what? that free space is still there and now in Gparted --> Devices I can see my HDD /dev/sda (149.05Gb) and then it comes a list from /dev/sda100 (119 Gb) to /dev/sda225 (119Gb) so there are 125 "devices" what can I do to have my HDD bac
[17:56] <thiebaude> i have amd opteron, but with 2gb ram should i go for 32 or 64bit?
[17:56] <pod88> that makes me a sad panda
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  Most intel drivers are allready included. You may want to check the forums for that exact chipset - to see if theres some known bugs going on.
[17:56] <work> My tablet pc screen is always a little left then click on the local party. In ubuntu just uninstall the driver and the wacom touch screen was disabled, but on ubuntu 4.11 wacom driver was replaced by what?
[17:56] <Dr_Willis> thiebaude:  i use 64bit on all my machines that can do 64bit. :) 5 out of 6.
[17:56] <SaiDawi> I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my Sony Vaio Laptop, but it's stopped every now and then
[17:56] <MnCC> Dr_Willis, ill give google another try
[17:56] <Guest27069> ikonia: http://pastebin.com/wRQ70sEn
[17:57] <thiebaude> ok i'll go with that, with login enabled
[17:57] <russjr08> Ok, I think I may have fixed it :)
[17:57] <ikonia> thiebaude: makes no difference
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> MnCC:  thers the askubuntu web site now also
[17:57] <SaiDawi> The whole system stops working, the mouse movces, but I can't really do anything
[17:57] <russjr08> sudo apt-get install default-jre
[17:57] <Cutepuppy> If i am experiencing this issue : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1743181&highlight=T500, what could i do to be able to install 11.04 ?
[17:57] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: Thanks, another guy said the same thing and i tried booting with the external plugged in but it didnt seem to help. How would i do it with the monitors settings? i think the nvidia settings override my monitor settings if that makes sense?
[17:57] <thiebaude> so i can choose gnone classic,lol
[17:57] <ikonia> Guest27069: what is starred out ?
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> thiebaude:  i got one box cacheing the apt packages for the rest of the lan. so i save space/time by doing all 64 when i can.
[17:57] <thiebaude> thanks ikonia and Dr. :)
[17:57] <redgone> can i turn off composite without breaking unity?
[17:57] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  You did try running the nvidia-settings tool?
[17:58] <thiebaude> Dr, it uses a little more ram, 64 bit?
[17:58] <id10t> anyone know an easy program for working with java code? I am use to using jGrasp and don't know how to get Eclipse to work
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> thiebaude:  ive never really noticed it using any more. In theory it does.
[17:58] <Edwisoca> hi, i have a laptop hp, core i5, 500 gb hdd, 4 gb ram, intel gma 4500mhd, and i just downloaded ubuntu 11.04 yesterday, im trying the live feature from my pendrive and it works fine, but when i try to install the ubuntu on my laptop i just get a black screen, but the caps block still works, what can i do?
[17:58] <thiebaude> im on windows 7 but im moving to 11.04
[17:58] <thiebaude> :)
[17:58] <Dr_Willis> !eclipse
[17:58] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: I have im not exactly sure that im doing though but i cant see my other display
[17:58] <operatorplik> gfdj
[17:58] <thiebaude> bbl
[17:58] <Kevin147> Is there any widgets in 11.04 for like the weather?
[17:59] <thiebaude> i got to go burn a cd
[17:59] <SaiDawi> Any idea on my issue? I have installed Ubuntu 11.04 on my Sony Vaio Laptop, but it's stopping every now and then.. The whole system stops working, the mouse movces, but I can't really do anything..
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  Hmm. sounds like the drive is not seeing it at all. that may be the core of the whole problem.
[17:59] <Guest27069> ikonia: my user name, someone told me not to include those due to a security risk
[17:59] <id10t> edwisoca, intel gma has been known for its problems with the default video drivers.
[17:59] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: interesting, do you have any suggestion about what could be done?
[17:59] <ikonia> Guest27069: there is no service risk and for things like device mapper, it makes it hard to see what's going on
[17:59] <Dr_Willis> Kevin147:  theres some indicator-applets out there that do the weather. saw one mentioned at the omgubuntu blog site.
[17:59] <mrchak> I am running Natty Live CD right now, is it possible for me to recover my old Home Directory from Ubuntu 10.10?
[17:59] <Edwisoca> id10t, what can i do if i want to install ubuntu 11.04
[17:59] <Guest27069> sorry, want me to repaste?
[18:00] <Kevin147> Dr_Willis: alright, thanks :P
[18:00] <ikonia> Guest27069: how big is your hard disk ?
[18:00] <ikonia> Guest27069: nah, I figured it out enough, just want to check some stuff
[18:00] <Sledge> is there a  way i can change these hotcorner thingies
[18:00] <Dr_Willis> mrchak:  you can access your old ubuntu install.  and copy stuff elsewhere.
[18:00] <warp_> thiebaude: You are taking the SMART decision!
[18:00] <Sledge> usually you can just right click on them change their settings top, right bottom, left all that jazz
[18:00] <muneeb>  Is it necessary to have nspluginwrapper even if i install 64bit flash-plugin??
[18:00] <ikonia> noonoooo: yes
[18:00] <ikonia> oops
[18:00] <ikonia> muneeb: not for flash no, but for other 32bit stuff, sure
[18:00] <Sledge>  I HATE FLASH
[18:00] <snowrichard> my monitor says "input not support" during the 11.04 bootup but once the login screen starts its ok
[18:01] <ikonia> Sledge: thanks for that random noise
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> mrchak:  it dosent show up in the places menu? You could try mounting it by hand.
[18:01] <przemoReX> hi. I've got an issue when running eclipse on ubuntu 11.04. Side sliding bars doesn't show up
[18:01] <id10t> edwiscoca, specifically which intel gma do you have, ie: intel gma 4500?
[18:01] <Sledge> ikonia,  well sorry, but it stopped working after the upgrade, and i had it working just so good.
[18:01] <muneeb> ikonia, i'm having problems with nspluginwrapper so i was thinking of removing it... what should i do?
[18:01] <Edwisoca> intel gma 4500mhd
[18:01] <Sledge> muneeb,  are you having a problem with flash after the upgrade?
[18:01] <ikonia> muneeb: remove it if you want to
[18:01] <Dr_Willis> snowrichard:  i get a similer error. 'out of range' - i disabled the plymouth splash, and made grub use a normal text interface.
[18:02] <Halt> Banshee won't play any music, it just says "idle" :\
[18:02] <Edwisoca> is there a secure mode or a alternative video install part?
[18:02] <researcher123> I have downloaded ubuntu 11.04. I am on 10.4.how to install 11.04 it to replace 10.04?
[18:02] <muneeb> Sledge, flash didnt get install due to errors from nspluginwrapper so i installed it manually..
[18:02] <Sledge> muneeb did you use the .so file?
[18:02] <Halt> Banshee won't play any music, it just says "idle" :(
[18:02] <rumpel1> researcher123, best way: put it on a usb-stick, boot from it, install from it with formatting /
[18:03] <russjr08> researcher123, the installer for 11.04 should have an option to replace ubuntu 10.04
[18:03] <muneeb> Sledge, yes but 64bit
[18:03] <snowrichard> Dr_Willis,  well its not hurting anything.  Would i disable the splash in the grub 2 configuration some how?
[18:03] <Sledge> muneeb, yes same exact problem im having
[18:03] <russjr08> Halt, have you installed the appropriate codecs?
[18:03] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: hey, i have it working now the display is detected but i remember doing this before now. nvidia isnt very good at handling this stuff, when i plug in a new monitor is affects my computer monitor ins strange ways and i cant just copy my computer display to the other monitor. i think im going about it wrong now that i think about it tho. i dont want a second monitor i want to output as if i were using the pc for a presentation or simmilar
[18:03] <Halt> russ, it was working last night
[18:03] <researcher123> russjr08: but it will undo earlier applications which are installed on 10.04
[18:03] <russjr08> hmm..
[18:03] <glaceon_> hello please
[18:03] <Halt> booted up this morning and now it doesn't
[18:03] <glaceon_> people
[18:03] <researcher123> @upgrade
[18:03] <muneeb> ikonia, i'm unsure whether am i using 32bit or 64bit java.. that's why i'm not removing it
[18:03] <researcher123> !upgrade
[18:03] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: for my computer i can normally press function-F8 so do this but now its changed, im not sure if that means anyhting to you
[18:04] <Halt> so yeah, im dying without my music
[18:04] <Halt> D:
[18:04] <axisys> i needed to install ubuntu-restricted-extras for the firefox and google chrome plugin to work with metacafe
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> snowrichard:  i use the quiet nosplash  option. in /etc/default/grub  and theres a setting commented to enable the text/simple grub menu also.
[18:04] <Sledge> Halt use rythmbox
[18:04] <muneeb> Sledge, so is flash working now?
[18:04] <przemoReX> I'm also very used to changing order of the open windows butons in window list on bottom bar in Gnome but it's disabled in 11.04. How can I enable buttons sliding in window list bar?
[18:04] <Halt> why?
[18:04] <id10t> edwisoca, it should work for you, I suggest re-installing 11.04 from a cd. check out this article: http://wiki.daviddarts.com/Ubuntu_Maverick_on_the_Asus_UL30VT
[18:04] <Sledge> muneeb,  no i have tried uninstalling and reinstalling
[18:04] <Halt> banshee WAS working
[18:04] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  the driver is proberly not letting it do it.  OR you need to do that fn-f8 THEN run the nvidia-settings tool. and it may see it.
[18:04] <snowrichard>  /etc/default/grub thanks
[18:04] <Edwisoca> thanks id10t!!!
[18:04] <snowrichard> i'll take a look
[18:05] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  perhpas the laptop is turning it Off. so the driver is not seeing it to let you configure it.
[18:05] <Guest27069> ikonia: any ideas?
[18:05] <Sledge> Usually i can just right click on a launcher panel and change the size settings, and things liek that color, text font.. but for some reason i can't do that anymore, and all my colors and sizes hhave changed with unity..
[18:05] <muneeb> Sledge, i just copied that .so file to /usr/lib64/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so and it worked
[18:06] <id10t> edwisoca, np
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> woah
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> that was the wierdest bug i ever encountered
[18:07] <Edwisoca> nope
[18:07] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: again im not really sure what that means, nvidia can detect the display right now if i go to configure it as a second monitor but not to hit fn-F8 so im not sure what that means. is there a way to manually turn on video outputs?
[18:07] <Edwisoca> id10t
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> I pressed alt-tab and was greeted by the login screen
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> in less than a second ubuntu had logged me out
[18:07] <Edwisoca> it works when ubuntu is installed
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> and gracefully closed all my apps
[18:07] <Tetsuo55> wtf
[18:07] <Edwisoca> but i cannot install
[18:07] <Edwisoca> i just get a black screen is there a text mode install?
[18:08] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: woah i got a strange message this time when i hit fn-F8 it says "could not switch monitor configurations for crt 351"
[18:08] <jasonmchristos> When I am using the ubuntu live CD and gnome starts acting up how would I from cli tell gnome to restart?
[18:08] <ph88> how do i setup a connection with a crosscable to my NAS ? my nas has samba support (and also linux network TFS but not sure)
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:   interesting. Not try the nvidia-settings tool?
[18:08] <Dr_Willis> now try....
[18:09] <Tetsuo55> unfortunately apport didnt catch it, i did see a quick flash of console output
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> jasonmchristos:  sudo service gdm restart would kill/restart gnome
[18:09] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: ok, also its kind of interesting if i go to the monitors preferences it does NOT detect another monitor
[18:10] <ph88> correction i mean NFS instead of TFS
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  theres also the command to try 'nvidia-xconfig'  theres an -A option (i think) that tells it to make an xorg.conf to enable all monitors. Its been ages since ive had to use it, you may want to check its --help output.
[18:10] <mrchak> when upgrading from 10.10 to 11.04, should my Home directory and files be safe?
[18:10] <gmachine_24> anyone have a good utility to set CPU levels - to save on power when running on battery, etc.
[18:11] <Soothsayer> mrchak, can you back them up?
[18:11] <coder2> can i upgrade directly to 11.04 from 10.04 without going through 10.10??
[18:11] <_Neytiri_> is there a way to upgrade from a 32 but ubuntu to 64 bit without reinstalling the whole system
[18:11] <Soothsayer> _Neytiri_, I don't think so
[18:11] <xangua> _Neytiri_: no
[18:11] <GuyCanada> --help output
[18:11] <snowrichard> Dr_Willis, thank you no more annoying message on the monitor
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> _Neytiri_:  Big No. :)
[18:11] <sakekasi> my banshee sound menu entry has disappeared. how do I get it back?
[18:11] <xangua> coder2: always good ideam make a copy of important data
[18:11] <Dr_Willis> snowrichard:  great.. err.. wjhat mesage? :)
[18:11] <_Neytiri_> k i guess i gotto scratch the system again
[18:11] <ph88> how do i mount my NAS? it has samba and NFS support, i am using a crosscable
[18:12] <snowrichard> about not supported video mode
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> I just got a 'teacher badge' on the askubuntu web site. heh.
[18:12] <terrylm> X, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> ph88:  you mean a crossover cable? does it get an ip#?
[18:12] <coder2> Dr_Willis: congrats
[18:12] <okenobi_> Hello everybody! I made an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 and everything worked smooth! Congrats!
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> snowrichard:  I have the attention span of a newt.  :)
[18:12] <truepurple> What is the name of that other channel? Something like "#ubuntu-beginners"
[18:12] <ph88> Dr_Willis: yes i mean a crossover cable, i'm not sure if it gets an ip
[18:13] <SuBmUnDo> please, how to disable the touch screen in ubuntu 11.04?
[18:13] <gmachine_24> Dr_Willie, I'm sorry, what were you talking about? ;)
[18:13] <SaiDawi> How can I stop those silly visuals in the new Ubuntu? I could do that in 10.10 from the Appearance menu
[18:13] <gmachine_24> Willis, even
[18:13] <mrchak> Soothsayer: after the upgrade (from Update manager) I rebooted but got stuck on the GRUB prompt
[18:13] <coder2> okenobi_: can i upgrade directly to 11.04 from 10.04 without going through 10.10??
[18:13] <Soothsayer> mrchak, damn, I went through that too.
[18:13] <mrchak> Soothsayer: now I'm running Natty Live CD to try to access my old Home directory
[18:13] <xangua> SaiDawi: unity won't work without compiz if that is what you are asking
[18:13] <gmachine_24> coder2, yes
[18:13] <okenobi_> coder2: I don't think so!
[18:13] <gmachine_24> why not?
[18:13] <SaiDawi> ;/
[18:13] <ph88> Dr_Willis: may i query you ?
[18:13] <tatzenblogde> coder2, you cant upgrade directly
[18:13] <mman> made and upgrade to 11.04 and wireless network does not work. did lshw -C network and my wireless network says DISABLE. any ideas how to enable it?
[18:13] <Edwisoca> Anybody knows hot to install ubuntu 1104 in text mode????
[18:13] <xangua> SaiDawi: use 'classic desktop' or 'unity 2d'
[18:13] <Soothsayer> mrchak, I just ran the installer all over again. Can you move your /home and data files to a separate partition?
[18:13] <coder2> gmachine_24: show me the way?
[18:13] <przemoReX> I'd like to ask if anybody using eclipse on ubuntu 11.04 has an issue with missing side sliding bars
[18:14] <rgr> Why is unity tied in with Compiz? Must it use 3d wobbles or what?
[18:14] <tatzenblogde> Edwisoca, use alternate cd
[18:14] <SaiDawi> how can I choose to use Classic desktop? ex0a
[18:14] <gmachine_24> coder2, well these people here know more than me so apparently I'm wrong.
[18:14] <Edwisoca> thaks
[18:14] <SaiDawi> err... xangua
[18:14] <Soothsayer> mrchak, I'd _really_ suggest just formatting your OS partition and installing 11.04 from scratch. Quite a bunch of people are facing odd upgrade issues.
[18:14] <truepurple> What is the name of that other channel? Something like "#ubuntu-beginners"
[18:14] <mrchak> soothsayer: I can't find my home and data files now.
[18:14] <tatzenblogde> Edwisoca, you can choose with F4 or F6 (options) the command-line-system
[18:14] <snowrichard> guess i was lucky upgrade worked fine
[18:14] <groundup> Hey, I am having troubles with apt-get today. I was trying to upgrade Nginx but it failed and now I can't do anything with apt-get because it says The following packages have unmet dependencies:  nginx-full : Depends: nginx-common (= 1.0.0-0ppa1~maverick) but it is not installed E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[18:14] <okenobi_> coder2: there is a flag though to list only LTS versions! and then you CAN!
[18:14] <gmachine_24> coder2: besides I never upgrade. I had one bad experience a long time ago so I just save my data files and do a fresh install
[18:14] <snowrichard> even wireless still worked
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> ph88:  i may have to chase after the grandkids at a moments notice. so i often run off unexpectedly.
[18:14] <Soothsayer> mrchak, are you sure you didn't run a formatted install ?
[18:14] <SaiDawi> I don't want to use Unity, it's bothering me
[18:14] <coder2> gmachine_24: allright.......no worry
[18:15] <mrchak> Soothsayer: I didn't format.
[18:15] <jimcooncat> I'm with you, gmachine_24
[18:15] <groundup> Of course, I went through the process of trying -f numerous times but it always comes up with the same error
[18:15] <xangua> groundup: tried to use apt-get instaññ -f, like the message says¿¿
[18:15] <DeadEnd> SaiDawi: to use classic desktop with or without effects logout and change to classic desktop
[18:15] <ph88> how do i block users from querying me? I am using Ubuntu 11.04 with empathy (IRC network ofcourse)
[18:15] <tchomas> SaiDawi,  logout and change to clasic version
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> ph88:  if you are using a crossover cable. You mauy need to install a dhcp server, or set up the NAS with a static ip.
[18:15] <groundup> xangua: beat you to the punch :P
[18:15] <mrchak> Soothsayer: It was just an upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04 using the Update manager
[18:15] <gmachine_24> jimcooncat: yeah, it was a grand disaster
[18:15] <okenobi_> coder2: for servers I'm sure you can! for desktop, i didn't do it personaly, but now that i think of it, I'm sure you can make an upgrade from 10.04 to 11.04!
[18:15] <xangua> ph88: empathy is very limited for irc
[18:15] <SaiDawi> Aha aha
[18:15] <SaiDawi> Oh finally!!
[18:15] <SaiDawi> Thankies!
[18:15] <gmachine_24> anyone have a good utility to set CPU levels - to save on power when running on battery, etc.
[18:15] <tchomas> SaiDawi,  no problem
[18:15] <rgr> I cant help but wonder why Canonical took it on themsleves to make the default Unity which in turn puts huge HW/Driver match issue in front of people who simply want to stick with their "classic" Gnome. Its nothing short of incompetent. Many people have upgraded and now get no desktop at all becuase of Unity/Compiz issues.
[18:16] <marcavis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/jockey/+bug/772204 hmm looking for a fix/workaround for this one
[18:16] <ph88> Dr_Willis: yes a DHCP server is needed since this is what the NAS expects, i'll check soon if i can find any tutorials on it. Thx (i assumed this functionally would work out of the box)
[18:16] <xangua> rgr: there is still 'classic desktop'
[18:16] <tchomas> for all peaople !! you can change to classic view  ( not unity) then you logout and change destkop to classic ubuntu !!
[18:16] <gmachine_24> isn't this about the point when someone says something about staying on topic
[18:16] <rgr> gmachine_24: look up laptop mode
[18:16] <marcavis> Er, I suppose plenty of people have been talking about that bug 772204?
[18:16] <bibinou> hi
[18:16] <GuyCanada> Dr_Willis: hey i just installed GRandR and it also doesnt detect the monitor so that appears to be the problem.
[18:17] <gmachine_24> rgr: stupid question: laptop mode where?
[18:17] <bibinou> I updated to natty yesterday
[18:17] <rgr> and powertop
[18:17] <mman> ph88,  cant you just give to the NAS a static ip?
[18:17] <bibinou> how can I get the old scrollbars back ?
[18:17] <mman> made and upgrade to 11.04 and wireless network does not work. did lshw -C network and my wireless network says DISABLE. any ideas how to enable it?
[18:17] <GuyCanada> doesnt anyone know how to manually turn on a hdmi output port? its not being detected by my monitors preferences or GRandR
[18:17] <rgr> in google of course withe word "ubuntu".
[18:17] <GuyCanada> does anyone*
[18:17] <Guest68448> I cannot play files on my mp4 player when I've transferred them from Ubuntu. On the mp4 player I can see the folders but not the contents. In Ubuntu I can see the folder and contents of the mp4 player. I had this problem before with PCLOS and was told to install a program that enabled communication between the OS and the mp4 player. It worked perfectly after. But I cannot remember the name of the program or the type of program it was.
[18:17] <rgr> powertop is real nice
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> ph88:  a dns server is not installed by default. so  Nope it wont. :) i always set up my NAS's and so forth with static ip's in the .200 range. so i can tell them from my other machines
[18:17] <Mathuin> The 11.04 netbook ISO BitTorrent link on the Ubuntu site doesn't work.  Is there another known good BT link for the netbook ISO?
[18:17] <Chrom_> hi all
[18:17] <bp0> bibinou, apt-get remove overlay-scrollbar liboverlayscrollbar-*
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  there is no Netbook ISO.
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  that link is a mistake.
[18:18] <Chrom_> I can't drag icons into the trash applet in gnome-classic. is it a knows bug?
[18:18] <Chrom_> known
[18:18] <tatzenblogde> Mathiun, did you mean the ARM?
[18:18] <bibinou> bp0 : thank you !
[18:18] <Mathuin> Dr_Willis: so the link was an oversight.
[18:18] <gmachine_24> rgr: ok thanks although I don't 'google'
[18:18] <bp0> bibinou, liboverlay-scrollbar- maybe
[18:18] <rgr> Chrom_: why not check the bug lists. Wouldnt that be the smart thing to do?
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  thats what i hear. theres no x86 netbook edition any more. desktop ed. covers both.
[18:18] <Mathuin> tatzenblogde: I meant "http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-11.04-netbook-i386.iso.torrent"
[18:18] <mman> made and upgrade to 11.04 and wireless network does not work. did lshw -C network and my wireless network says DISABLE. any ideas how to enable it?
[18:18] <Chrom_> rgr: I'm a user not a developer
[18:18] <rgr> gmachine_24: ok, then guess. google can help. Its not a monster.
[18:18] <Mathuin> Dr_Willis: before I do the upgrade, does anyone know if this will work on the Eee?
[18:19] <Chrom_> but I will surely check it
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  it should. test with a usb flash live setup perhaps>?
[18:19] <mrchak> SoothSayer: I think that all of my data and files were wiped with the upgrade.
[18:19] <pcrii> jockey is reporting that my video driver is activated but not currently in use (nvidia v 173) is there a way to get my drivers working properly?
[18:19] <rgr> Chrom_: right, and so are most people here. But if you use Linux then it shouldnt be beyond your cinompetence to search the bug lists if you want to know if something is already logged.
[18:19] <Soothsayer> mrchak, you ran the upgrade from within 10.10 or through a 11.04 cd?
[18:19] <sakekasi> my banshee sound menu entry has disappeared. how do I get it back?
[18:19] <ph88> mman yes i could give the NAS a static ip, but since i can't access the webinterface now ... i cant set this up
[18:19] <Mathuin> Dr_Willis: that'll tell me if the code works, but not if the upgrade works.  I've had upgrade problems in the past with desktop on the Eee, specifically windows that were too big for the screen.
[18:19] <lsimons> Is there an option for global menu so it shows the menus before you mouse over the bar?
[18:19] <pmitros> mman: I made the same mistake. Broadcom drivers, in my case, broke. Complex instructions on the interwebs for fixing it. From what I hear, lots of other drivers broke too
[18:19] <Guest68448> Chrom: I had that problem once. It was my fault. I did something with Tweak. Are you using it?
[18:19] <Bubbblebutt> Hi all could someone help me with a netbook that I just updated from 10.10 x32 to 11.04 x32 please
[18:19] <tatzenblogde> Mathiun, did you mean the ARM?Mathuin, i runn it on my eee 1005pe
[18:20] <Sledge> has anyone figured out how to navigate easily with this UNITY
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> Mathuin:  i never upgrade. :)
[18:20] <tatzenblogde> sorry
[18:20] <mrchak> Soothsayer: Not from CD, from Ubuntu Gnome Update Manager
[18:20] <groundup> Any information on how to properly clean apt-get up? I can't uninstall Nginx
[18:20] <Chrom_> rgr: do you mean ubuntu bug list, gnome bug list, trash applet bug list?
[18:20] <rgr> Bubbblebutt: just ask.
[18:20] <groundup> I tried clean
[18:20] <tatzenblogde> Mathuin, i run then ormal 32bit on my eee
[18:20] <ph88> Dr_Willis: good idea, i will use a static IP next time :)
[18:20] <lsimons> Sledge, working on it :(  I've got phantom bottom bar syndrome
[18:20] <rgr> Chrom_: I mean check.
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> Sledge:  the omgubuntu blog site has a wallpaper-cheat sheet of all the shortcut keys.
[18:20] <Soothsayer> Sledge, navigate to ?
[18:20] <Mathuin> tatzenblogde: did you have any trouble installing?  I only have a 1000, and the windows were too tall for my display to do the install, had to attach ane xternal monitor.
[18:20] <mman> pmitros, i just found a fix for broadcom, but not for Centrino that is what im looking for
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> I normally fullscreen all my apps and alt-tab all day long. :) so not much differance for me..
[18:20] <mrchak> Soothsayer: Then after all of the new files were installed and old files removed the computer rebooted and instead of booting Ubuntu I got the GRUB prompt
[18:20] <mman> pmitros, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/760920
[18:20] <rgr> it takes as long to google "ubuntu bug *problem" as it does to ask here you know ;) if you want something explained then ask here.
[18:21] <GuyCanada> how do i restart x server?
[18:21] <dclake> I have a weird problem after upgrading to 11.04
[18:21] <melone> hello =) is here maybe an expert for alsa/pulseaudio who can help me?
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> GuyCanada:  'sudo service gdm restart' should kill and restart X.
[18:21] <rgr> GuyCanada: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[18:21] <tatzenblogde> Mathuin, i have no problems. With 11.04, the wlan driver is in the kernel (before i had to install via jockey). :-) No problems
[18:21] <Chrom_> rgr: anyway, just for the records, I have been browsing the web about that for a reasonable while and I haven't found anything.
[18:21] <dclake> I get an error saying "The disf drive for / is not ready yet or not present"
[18:21] <pcrii> jockey is reporting that my video driver is activated but not currently in use (nvidia v 173) is there a way to get my drivers working properly?
[18:21] <Mathuin> tatzenblogde: thanks for the good news!  Hopefully mine will be too.  I'll find out soon!
[18:21] <dclake> "Continue to wait; or Press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery"
[18:21] <tatzenblogde> Mathuin, no problem :-) let us know if there are any problems
[18:22] <dclake> can any one lep with this?
[18:22] <rgr> then its probably not known...
[18:22] <pmitros> mman: That only works if you have wired. In my case, both wireless and wired broke. I have to follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx to get the wireless back up, which seems like a ton of work
[18:22] <Mathuin> I'll do that.  Bye!
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> pcrii:  it says that i think when you just installed it. but not yet rebooted.
[18:22] <mman> ph88, cant u ssh? or in "worst" case, just install a dhcp server for a sec
[18:22] <Bubbblebutt> rgr: Ok sorry but Im fairly new to using linux and well I had a stable install of 10.10 on my Aspire one D255E and I updated it to 11.04 using the "Update" window. But now I cant move any windows around, my mouse has no right click, its laggier then CS 1.6 on 56k, and the damn keyring keeps popping up requesting a password that I have not changed....
[18:22] <tatzenblogde> bye
[18:22] <Sledge> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/04/become-a-natty-power-user-in-no-time-using-this-unit-keyboard-shortcuts-wallpaper/
[18:22] <Sledge> you mean this?
[18:22] <Sledge> and my SEE Desktop icon is gone!
[18:22] <Sledge> grr.
[18:22] <groundup> When I try to install nginx-common I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[18:22] <rgr> Bubbblebutt: welcome to a Ubuntu upgade. My advice? Ditch it and reinstall from scratch.
[18:22] <s33k> hi... i need some help.... my lap runs on ubuntu 10.10
[18:22] <Sledge> won't let me add anything to it either
[18:23] <rgr> Bubbblebutt: as it sounds really hosed.
[18:23] <mman> pmitros, download the package from another computer and then install it, dont know:P just an idea
[18:23] <s33k> i initially configured my comp in such a way that both my /home and /var load from the same partition as the partition in which / is mounted
[18:23] <s33k> i have now moved all the files of /home to a separate partition and configured my fstab to mount /home from the new partition
[18:23] <s33k> i've moved all files to the new partition but there's a .gvfs file or folder in my home dir which i am not able to move, even as root
[18:23] <s33k> it says that even the root doesn't have permission to move the file
[18:23] <przemoReX> I'd like to ask if anybody using eclipse on ubuntu 11.04 has an issue with missing side sliding bars like me
[18:23] <tatzenblogde> i trief to print with my brother-printer. problem: i installed the scanner-driver (called brscan) and wonder why it wont print o.O
[18:23] <s33k> will there be any problem if i don't copy the .gvfs file?
[18:23] <pcrii> Dr_Willis: ive rebooted several times even removed the driver and re activated it
[18:23] <bibinou> groundup: look at /var/log/dpkg.log
[18:23] <s33k> how do i fix it?
[18:23] <pmitros> mman: The package does not include the firmware. The package downloads the firmware during the install. You have to download both the package and the firmware on another computer, and do tricks to make them work together.
[18:23] <rgr> przemoReX: maybe ask in #eclipse
[18:24] <Bubbblebutt> rgr: Thank you, um would you know if there would possibly be any further updates that I could do so it doesnt rape my under powered netbook??
[18:24] <rgr> not really. slim it down yourself when you know its working.
[18:24] <pmitros> mman: Again, possible, but beyond my threshold of laziness. 11.04 appears to be, rather sadly, the most broken OS I've used in over a decade.
[18:24] <mman> pmitros, :S ok that is bad.. im searching now for the centrino wireless -N 1000
[18:24] <rgr> one thing often suggested is xfce etc but I dont recommend that route necessarily.
[18:24] <s33k> can someone help me please
[18:24] <przemoReX> rgr: it's definitelly 11.04 isue.
[18:25] <lollab> anybody got  HP 8440p Elitebook  finger  print scanner works on ubuntu ?
[18:25] <Guest27069> ikonia: you still there?
[18:25] <tatzenblogde> s33k, which problem?
[18:25] <rgr> the problem above
[18:25] <mman> pmitros, I actually didnt like 11.04 either.. nauty interface (n) i changed to gnome again
[18:25] <groundup> bibinou: what exactly am I looking for? I see a lot of half-configured <package>
[18:25] <rgr> unity is gnome I was told yesterday...
[18:25] <tatzenblogde> ah, the problem with the root-partition
[18:25] <terry> s33k: What command did you use to copy the /home files to the new partition?
[18:25] <dalton2345> rgr: no its not
[18:25] <Bubbblebutt> ok thanks rgr and all :)
[18:25] <pmitros> mman: Yeah. The new interface feels like some undergrad decided to clone the Mac UI as a class project.
[18:25] <Chrom_> rgr: basically you can't drag any file to the panel, not just to the trash, because it is added to the panel instead of interacting with the relevant applet
[18:26] <bibinou> groundup: there should be an error at the end of the file
[18:26] <terry> s33k: and what exactly is the  .gfs  file?
[18:26] <Soothsayer> anyone knows a tool I could use to capture outgoing / incoming packets from a process? GUI based preferably and easy to use.
[18:26] <rgr> Chrom_: dbus issues?
[18:26] <karma_police> any have any luck hoining 10.10 to an ad-hoc network?
[18:26] <bp0> .gvfs is where fuse mounts
[18:26] <s33k> terry,  cd /home; mount /dev/sda7 /home/seek2; mv seek/* seek2/
[18:26] <sakekasi> the sound menu integration for banshee is not working in natty.
[18:26] <bp0> s33k, you can't move it while fuse is using it
[18:26] <groundup> bibinou: there's a lot like this: 2011-04-30 13:24:02 status half-configured ufw 0.30.0-1ubuntu2 2011-04-30 13:24:02 status installed ufw 0.30.0-1ubuntu2
[18:26] <Chrom_> rgr: how can I say?
[18:26] <bp0> you can't move /home while logged in as a normal user
[18:26] <mman> pmitros, yup :( i was excited for the new version, but its now what I expected... to many problems.. dont know.. :S
[18:27] <karma_police> i am trying to connect my ubuntu to my wifi teatherd android net connection
[18:27] <pcrii> the proprietary driver jockey suggests isnt working for me (activated but not currently in use) is there any alternatives i can try or suggestions to get it working properly?
[18:27] <rgr> Chrom_: dmesg maybe
[18:27] <s33k> terry, .gvfs is gnome filesystem
[18:27] <michele> italiano
[18:27] <rgr> Just a suggestion. Same issues each time with ubuntu.
[18:27] <terry> s33k: So the /dev/sda7 partition is for /home only?
[18:27] <pmitros> mman: It's about 98% short of being a mature, release-ready project. It doesn't work well with modalless applications, which is most of Unix apps. It doesn't work well with many graphics card drivers. It can't open two terminals from the launcher. It doesn't work right with focus-follow-the-mouse. It's just nowhere near finished
[18:27] <s33k> bp0, what is fuse mount?
[18:27] <glaceon_> can someone walk me through how to connect my devices with ssh please.... im lost and confused
[18:27] <bibinou> groundup: do you have any talking about ngnix ?
[18:27] <rgr> pmitros: shhh. The fanbois will ban you...
[18:27] <tatzenblogde> glaceon, what did you tried?
[18:27] <pmitros> dynamic.21-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) has
[18:27] <pmitros> +joined channel #ubuntu
[18:27] <pmitros> *** Signoff: Courz (Quit: Leaving)
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[18:27] <FloodBot2> pmitros: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <wildc4rd> would someone be so kind as to remind me of the code to change the maximise/minimise etc buttons back to the right hand side after an upgrade to narwhal
[18:28] <bp0> s33k, you need to log in to "recovery mode" and move /home, you can't do it while a user is logged in
[18:28] <terry> s33k: bp0 is correct.
[18:28] <rgr> yes it is
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> glaceon_:  install ssh server on one,, install ssh client on others.. ssh to the ip of the server..
[18:28] <drseltsam> whois:bp0
[18:28] <Foloex> hello world
[18:28] <zub> Hi. I just upgraded to 11.04 and I see gnome-terminal now defaults to 80x22 geometry. Why is that? I can override it in settings, but I wonder where does the 80x22 come from?
[18:28] <xangua> !controls > wildc4rd
[18:28] <glaceon_> im new so i dont know what to try
[18:28] <s33k> terry, yeah... i'm planning to use /dev/sda7 for /home only
[18:28] <Chrom_> rgr: I don't think so. the drag and drop interacts with the panel indeed, but the behavior is wrong. a shortcut is added to the panel instead of interacting with the applets that are on the panel itself
[18:28] <terry> bp0: s33k But you CAN copy it.
[18:28] <xangua> glaceon_: try to read the topic
[18:28] <michele> entrare canale italiano
[18:28] <csharper> Has anyone upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on a parallels6 virtual machine?
[18:28] <mman> pmitros, exactly!!! hope either they make good updates or that 11.10 will be a GOOD ubuntu
[18:28] <Chrom_> if you drag a file to the trash applet, you get the item added to the panel, and not trashed
[18:28] <terry> s33k: bp0 and then delete /home later.
[18:28] <jbicha> pmitros: middle click on the Terminal button in the Launcher
[18:28] <xangua> !it | michele
[18:28] <tatzenblogde> glaceon, on one computer you have to install the ssh-server. use "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"
[18:28] <jnx> irc:///ferrari
[18:28] <_Neytiri_> how do i unmount a drive via cli
[18:28] <dalton2345> what??? you can't open two terminal at once????
[18:29] <glaceon_> dr_willis, I downloaded the openssh-server on this computer
[18:29] <pmitros> Shit. Sorry. Mouse fell.
[18:29] <s33k> bp0, oh cool thanks.. i'll try doing that... logging in as root in tty1 will also do right?
[18:29] <muneeb> what you guys are  using for onscreen system monitoring? the thing which we used to have in top panel called "System Monitor"
[18:29] <tatzenblogde> glaceon, after that you have to connect to the computer. use the ip from "ifconfig" for you network-device
[18:29] <groundup> bibinou: http://pastebin.com/tYaYR28b
[18:29] <jbicha> _Neytiri_: sudo umount filepath
[18:29] <rgr> _Neytiri_: http://www.google.de/search?q=unmount+drive+from+cli+ubuntu   my pleasure
[18:29] <wildc4rd> xangua, I know they have moved, I want to move them back
[18:29] <bp0> s33k, safest is recovery mode, you can't let anything be in use in /home
[18:29] <jnx> \j #ferrari
[18:30] <dynoboyz> hello
[18:30] <_Neytiri_> ty
[18:30] <tatzenblogde> glaceon, go to the other computer and look if the both are in the same network (try ping IP FROM THE OTHER PC)
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> glaceon_:  so if you had another pc on the lan. you could 'ssh the.ip.of.your.server' and hafe a shell on the server.
[18:30] <terry> s33k: What  you should have done is   sudo mkdir /mnt/sda7 ; sudo mount /dev/sda7 /mnt/sda7 ; sudo cp -ar /home /mnt/sda7
[18:30] <Foloex> I have an issue with the module r8169 since I installed Natty, dmesg is filled with "r8169 [...] eth0: link up" lines. Is there a known issue and fix for this. I happens on two different computer running both the amd64 desktop version of Ubuntu 11.04.
[18:30] <s33k> terry: i mv-ed the /home folder and it worked... except for this single file
[18:30] <dclake_> I guess I will have to do a fresh install
[18:30] <tatzenblogde> glaceon, and then you have to connect via "ssh IP FROM THE OTHER"
[18:30] <rgr> s33k: take all that advice with a large pinch of salt. They dont have to be mounted in /mnt for a start when copying the files.
[18:31] <jbicha> rgr: telling people they should have just googled it is like saying  rtfm which is rude
[18:31] <rgr> jbicha: I didnt, but thanks for poking your nose in.
[18:31] <rgr> I gave him the actual list of answers that are easily googled.
[18:31] <nyoger> google is immediately at your disposal.  specific complex help isn't
[18:31] <terry> s33k: Actually first you need to   sudo mv home/ old-home/  and then do the above.  Then change fstab entry and reboot.  If all works well, then rm -rf old-home/
[18:31] <rgr> rtfm is rude. "google this simple phrase" is not.
[18:31] <s33k> terry: why the archiving -a??
[18:31] <nyoger> people are human
[18:31] <dynoboyz> i need help on my partition,  I don't know how to handle files with mode 40755 when using fdisk
[18:31] <Sledge> does anyone know how i can stop this panel from auto hiding
[18:32] <rgr> how to umount from a cli is not specfic or complex.
[18:32] <terry> s33k: and what exactly is the  .gfs  file?
[18:32] <tatzenblogde> Sledge, rightclick on the panel > properties and remove the cross at "autohiding"?
[18:32] <esx> Sledge: first install ccsm
[18:32] <rgr> terry: that has been discussed I thought. a Fuse file.
[18:32] <tatzenblogde> or did you mean something else o.O
[18:32] <Sledge> ccsm
[18:32] <Sledge> ok
[18:32] <jbicha> rgr: this channel is not just for specific, complex questions
[18:32] <Sledge> esx,  was going to say right clicking does not work
[18:33] <bibinou> groundup: see, there is a lot of "status not-installed nginx-common <none>"
[18:33] <damicita> how do i activate transparency as i move a window ?
[18:33] <tatzenblogde> aaaah, i forget theres unity... sorry
[18:33] <rgr> jbicha: are you here to net nanny or help? I ask because I am in the process of contributing constructively to about three threads.
[18:33] <terry> s33k: ls -l .gfs
[18:33] <xangua> !ccsm | damicita
[18:33] <rgr> once again : suggesting people google simple Qs is not rtfm
[18:33] <groundup> bibinou: yeah, I don't know how to tell it stop trying to install that until I can figure out why I can't install nginx-common
[18:33] <terry> s33k: file .gfs
[18:33] <kostas> hello, i use 11.04 desktop and I am trying to export VPN settings. When I am to save the file I get an unknown error. Does anybody know why?
[18:33] <Sledge> esx, already installed.
[18:33] <s33k> terry, thats .gvfs.... i googled it to find that is a gnome virtual file system
[18:33] <damicita> thank you
[18:33] <Sledge> tatzenblogde,  since the upgrade right clicking on the panel's does nothing.
[18:34] <phunyguy> hello... anyone in here using XChat?  How the heck do I get it to go into the unity panel and stay there when minimized?
[18:34] <ph88> the ubuntu software server listed some DHCP frontend ---- awesome !
[18:34] <hihihi100> i finally upgraded to 11.04, what do I have to do to see applications and the other 2 menus without leaving unity?
[18:34] <rgr> hihihi100: see applications?
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> theres some movehome factoid i recall
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> !movehome
[18:34] <sakekasi> I have the sound menu integration plugin installed in banshee and I have the option checked in settings yet there is no banshee entry in my sound menu in natty.
[18:34] <esx> Sledge: unity settings are under desktop
[18:34] <tatzenblogde> Sledge, yes, sorry - i forget. i'm using kde and foret that the uppgrade from normal ubuntu has more changes than the kubuntu-version
[18:34] <glaceon_> Dr_willis, everytime i try to connect it comes back with connect refused
[18:34] <hihihi100> rgr, no
[18:35] <s33k> terry, ls -la .gvfs displays the following: ?------- ? ? ..gvfs
[18:35] <jbicha> hihihi100: Click the Ubuntu button in the top left corner
[18:35] <rgr> glaceon_: did you set up ssh keys?
[18:35] <terry> s33k: ls -l .gfs > gfs-info ; file .gfs >> gfs-info ; pastebinit gfs-info ; rm gfs-info
[18:35] <_Neytiri_> is there a tutorial on how to make a raid array during instualtion?
[18:35] <bibinou> groundup: seems like you use a ppa, try to contact the ppa maintener
[18:35] <s33k> even as root i don't have permissions to edit the file
[18:35] <nach0z> Hey i've got a question for yall. When aptitude is "resolving dependencies" it says "open: # closed: # defer:#" what do these mean?
[18:36] <jbicha> s33k: are you trying to edit a directory? you can only edit files
[18:36] <rgr> _Neytiri_: yes there is.
[18:36] <glaceon_> rgr, i dont know how to do that
[18:36] <kostas> Anything about VPN export???
[18:36] <jdummy> I noticed that the download page for ubuntu shows "32-bit (recommended) in their dropdown.  I've got a 64 bit machine.  Should I still get the 32 bit version?
[18:36] <hihihi100> ok, found it in the right side column, but I want to see all my aps as they were classified by me, I even created some folders and grouped them, I dont see that now, just all my aps ordered by alphabetical order
[18:36] <sakekasi> I have the sound menu integration plugin installed in banshee and I have the option checked in settings yet there is no banshee entry in my sound menu in natty.
[18:36] <phunyguy> ok let me ask a new question.  what IRC client integrates best with ubuntu and unity?
[18:36] <rgr> glaceon_: no, you need to read the tutorials and man pages.
[18:36] <hihihi100> how do I leave unity?
[18:36] <Sledge> esx, desktop ? what do you mean?
[18:36] <olabandola> how to get my hp un2400 module work in ubuntu 11.04 ?
[18:36] <terry> s33k: chmod 777 .gfs
[18:36] <xangua> !best | phunyguy
[18:36] <jbicha> jdummy: you can use the 64-bit version, some computers can't do the 64 version
[18:37] <stefg> _Neytiri_: the Desktop installer does not support raid-installs. you either need the alternate CD or make a single disk install and migrate that to a raid array later.
[18:37] <glaceon_> rgr, where are the tutorials?
[18:37] <esx> Sledge: run ccsm and click on the destop category on the left hand side
[18:37] <rgr> glaceon_: ssh isnt trivial when you start. And you need to be sure you do it properly or you will leave your sytsem open.
[18:37] <phunyguy> this isnt an opinion based question, ubottu
[18:37] <jdummy> jbicha: thanks
[18:37] <terry> s33k: is this .gfs file something you really need?
[18:37] <rgr> glaceon_: guess. The internet.
[18:37] <phunyguy> so let me ask it a different way.
[18:37] <phunyguy> what IRC client integrates AT ALL with unity
[18:37] <phunyguy> the reason i ask is because this one doesnt, at all.
[18:37] <stefg> _Neytiri_: what do you want to do specificaly?
[18:37] <rgr> glaceon_: http://www.google.de/search?&q=ubuntu+ssh
[18:37] <esx> Sledge: then click ubuntu unity plugin
[18:38] <jbicha> phunyguy: Empathy is installed by default but doesn't do as well at IRC, I used to use Pidgin but now use irssi
[18:38] <rgr> ssh is really great and worth mstering.
[18:38] <oCean> rgr: don't suggest google here, thanks
[18:38] <phunyguy> irssi, thanks
[18:38] <przemoReX> has anybody noticed that i 11.04 classic one cant slide buttons in window list bottom bar as it used to be? is there any way to enable it back?
[18:38] <rgr> oCean: please re-read.
[18:38] <phunyguy> is it decent at least?
[18:38] <kostas> hihihi100, logoff, select ubuntu classic and logon again and you ll be in the old classic thing.
[18:38] <oCean> rgr: people already know about google, so dont suggest it here. thanks.
[18:38] <rgr> I gave him the correct google string. UNless you think here is the place to list the entire how to on setting ssh up.
[18:38] <hihihi100> kostas, do you see any advantage in the unity desktop?
[18:38] <rgr> oCean: clearly they dont.
[18:38] <hihihi100> if so, please share
[18:38] <Sledge> Cool
[18:38] <Sledge> thanks
[18:38] <esx> Sledge: then use the hide launcher dropbox to change from dodge windows to never
[18:39] <oCean> rgr: yeas we have well equipped factoids for that
[18:39] <ohsix> przemoReX: that's a bug in compiz, it sucks; you need to restart it at the moment
[18:39] <shcherbak> rgr: There is better: man ssh
[18:39] <ohsix> rgr: don't tell people to google
[18:39] <rgr> that is not better for a noob
[18:39] <esx> Sledge: welcome.
[18:39] <rgr> ssh is mire complex than just the ssh comman itself.
[18:39] <oCean> rgr: yes it is, since it points to clearly written documentation/tuturials etc.
[18:39] <ohsix> rgr: if you are not going to personally instruct them, then don't offer any advice
[18:39] <przemoReX> ohsix: I have restarted it but still no sliding
[18:39] <rgr> it needs to be thought about and planned and in conjunction with things like gpg-agent or seahorse etc.
[18:39] <phunyguy> yeah, don't be /that/ guy  :P
[18:39] <olabandola> is there any possibles to get a hp un2400 module that handles my integrated mobile broadband work in ubuntu 11.04
[18:40] <terry> !google
[18:40] <ohsix> przemoReX: hm, that's all i've had to do; it breaks drag & drop on the panels too
[18:40] <rgr> ohsix: we discussed you butting in yesterday when you were incorrect about xorg.conf.
[18:40] <s33k> jbache: is it a directory?? i have no idea cuz it doesn't say anything specific in ls -la
[18:40] <kostas> I did n't like it from the begining so I left it. You have to ask somebody else that had work with it.
[18:40] <s33k> terry: as i said you earlier, the root doesn't have permission to edit it
[18:40] <s33k> terry: i have no idea.... since it is a gnome vfs, i don't want my lap to crash because of it after removing the original dir
[18:40] <cfc_{Pawpad}> hi ppl
[18:40] <cfc_{Pawpad}> i need some help explaining something
[18:40] <ohsix> rgr: you have an exceptional case and you don't except that, i said that if you mean that it is still read if it is present you are correct
[18:40] <rgr> glaceon : here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[18:40] <ohsix> rgr: but it is highly deprecated and you should never have to edit it, in your case you have to; that's a shame
[18:41] <JoshDreamland> Have the flames died down yet?
[18:41] <przemoReX> ohsix: so that means I can't configure it in any way, except to just wait for bug fix
[18:41] <terry> s33k: chmod 777 .gfs/
[18:41] <ohsix> rgr: you should talk to your gpu driver vendor
[18:41] <kostas> hihihi100. I just upgraded to 11.04 yesterday!
[18:41] <cfc_{Pawpad}> $ sudo locale-gen LANG1 LANG2 LANG3 why dose it say 1 2 and 3?
[18:41] <LjL> rgr: three people in the last five minutes have questioned the way you offer help, don't you think maybe they could have a point? :\
[18:41] <phunyguy> so was this an oversight by canonical, not adding a decent IRC client to 11.04?
[18:41] <phunyguy> just curious
[18:41] <ohsix> przemoReX: there are some bugs on launchpad about it, but i haven't looked too closely, restarts have been good enough for my use
[18:41] <newb_> I want report a bug for do-release-upgrade program, but I'm unable to find his package to report with ubuntu-bug. In what package this file is?
[18:41] <s33k> terry: i can't try it at the moment, i'll have to login in the recovery mode as bp0 said... i'll try it out and get back
[18:41] <rgr> no. Please re-read them piggy backing and then what I actually said and not what they are claiming. I didt just send people to google. I providied working search queries and solid links.
[18:41] <terry> s33k: and then   mv .gfs/ /home/were/ever/it/is/supposed/to/go
[18:42] <ohsix> przemoReX: it's been mentioned that it might have something to do with the panel being restarted after compiz; but that's as far as i've seen people looking
[18:42] <esx> phunyguy: sudo apt-get install irssi
[18:42] <phunyguy> i know how to install it.
[18:42] <rgr> and the google was one in ten help replies.
[18:42] <phunyguy> was just curious why something like an IRC client was left out.
[18:42] <esx> phunyguy: then why mention it?
[18:42] <oCean> newb_: it's update-manager-core package
[18:42] <ohsix> rgr: google returns different results for different people, if you have something in mind for them to read; google yourself and provide it directly, they will not find it no matter how specific the query
[18:42] <shcherbak> phunyguy: xchat, irssi, pidgin (or other nonsense) all more....
[18:42] <xangua> phunyguy: empathy is an irc client
[18:42] <stefg> phunyguy: have a look at your indicator applet ...
[18:42] <xangua> and it comes installed*
[18:42] <newb_> oCean: Thanks!
[18:43] <phunyguy> xangua, amd shcherbak, xchat doesnt come installed, empathy i was just told didnt work right, and there is no other client installed
[18:43] <zetsuboukitteh> hello, I'm having trouble with installing deadbeef (http://deadbeef.sourceforge.net/) by adding the ppa and installing
[18:43] <przemoReX> ohsix: thanx I'll follow what's on launchpad
[18:43] <phunyguy> THATS why i ask.
[18:43] <olabandola> hello can someone help me with get my intergrated mobile broadband to wrk
[18:43] <Sledge> uh oh
[18:43] <karma_police> is there a way to join an ad-hock network with ubuntu?
[18:43] <mastro> I am in the process of choosing a laptop for work... I'll install ubuntu on it and I do not want any issue with video, audio, touchpad / whatever.. hibernate and standby should work with no issue. I need at least 4 gb ram, better if more and I want a battery that last for 3 or more hours at least.... any suggestion? (brand / model)
[18:43] <JoshDreamland> Where can I go to make my voice heard? Or do we have to wait for the BDFL of Ubuntu to decide he hates 11.04, too?
[18:43] <ohsix> karma_police: join it :]
[18:43] <phunyguy> i will try empathy for myself.  Thanks
[18:44] <zetsuboukitteh> "E: unable to locate package deadbeef"
[18:44] <stefg> olabandola: first wind out what make and model it is. lspci / lsusb will tell you that
[18:44] <shcherbak> phunyguy: Well, installing from repos does take minute, at most: sudo apt-get install irssi
[18:44] <ohsix> karma_police: though it did not work well for me until 10.10, what version are you using?
[18:44] <phunyguy> shcherbak, nevermind.
[18:44] <xangua> !hardware | mastro
[18:44] <mastro> (i'll use the laptop for development on java environment)
[18:44] <karma_police> when i try to join at acts as if there is incorret pw
[18:44] <karma_police> 10,10
[18:45] <terrylm> X, screen goes gray, mouse still works, everything apparently still works, just can not be seen.  Ideas?  9.04 and 10.x
[18:45] <arand_> JoshDreamland: Many like 11.04 as well, if you have specific issues report bugs for those.
[18:46] <karma_police> i'm using 10.10 and am trying to access my wifi teatherd android 4g net connection... it works in windoze but cant get it working in ubuntu
[18:46] <phunyguy> OK, empathy works fine.  who said it doesn't?
[18:46] <phunyguy> thanks guys.
[18:46] <kcin1> is  ports.ubuntu.com the only ports repository?
[18:46] <JoshDreamland> arand_: That sounds evil and otherwise nefarious. I'll do it!
[18:46] <xangua> phunyguy: no one
[18:46] <stefg> .mastro: either get an ubuntu preloaded one from companies like system76 or (in case you live in a country they don't deliver to) consider a thinkpad R/L/T-series... it's the de facto standard
[18:46] <xangua> it's just limited phunyguy
[18:47] <olabandola> @stefg  http://pastebin.com/RhiJ9PgV
[18:47] <donpdonp> installing mysql-server did not create an /etc/init.d/mysqld file - how should the server be started?
[18:47] <stefg> olabandola: wait a sec...
[18:47] <Kratos> hi guys, i have a problem trying to use backtrack is anyone up to help?
[18:47] <karma_police> anyone have any suggestions on tethering  android phones with ubuntu?
[18:47] <LjL> !backtrack | Kratos
[18:48] <arand_> JoshDreamland: Though of course you shouldn't report bugs that are simply opinions, those could go in the forums, or the mailing lists, or reformulated into ideas for improvements, rather.
[18:48] <ohsix> karma_police: i connect to my phone all the time; it's rooted with wifi tethering though
[18:48] <snowrichard> karma_police,  I didn't have any problem with my htc aria and usb tethering with 10.10. Not tried it in 11.04 yet
[18:48] <karma_police> mine is rooted with barnacle wifi
[18:48] <JoFo> Hello everybody. I've just updated my Karmic to Natty. The menus have disappeared. How could I add a new keyboard driver? Where's Gnome keyboard manager?
[18:48] <Crazy1> everyone ,is time to sleep
[18:48] <ohsix> i don't know what barnacle wifi is
[18:48] <JoshDreamland> arand_: Where does the fact that their beautiful scroll bar idea cost me the ability to quick-scroll with middle mouse button go?
[18:48] <stefg> olabandola: i guess the avagotech device is it
[18:48] <Kratos> im having problems booting bt4 on usb
[18:48] <ohsix> that'd be the place i'd look first for problems
[18:49] <karma_police> i'm using 10.10 with a htc g1 and barnacle wifi tether
[18:49] <IdleOne> !backtrack | Kratos
[18:49] <ohsix> Kratos: backtrack isn't supported here
[18:49] <oCean> JoshDreamland: did you just came in here to rant, or do you have actual support question?
[18:49] <karma_police> it works fine on win7 but cannot access using ubuntu
[18:49] <JoshDreamland> oCean: To be honest, mostly to rant.
[18:49] <Pierewoj> Hello, I am kind of new to Ubuntu, I was using my previous ubuntu for programming (had to install some additional libraries like image magick and boost) and after I came back, I installed new Ubuntu 11 and my wifi somehow stopped working. If someone could help me with that, please PM
[18:49] <Kratos> where can i go
[18:49] <xangua>  BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)
[18:49] <mastro> stefg, lenovo?
[18:49] <JoshDreamland> Unless you can tell me how to revert my scroll bars.
[18:49] <snowrichard> i didn't have to root my phone to use the tethering - its part of froyo 2.2.2
[18:49] <stefg> mastro: right
[18:49] <oCean> JoshDreamland: In that case, please choose a different channel
[18:49] <ohsix> Pierewoj: broadcom or atheros?
[18:49] <xangua> JoshDreamland: i saw a guide in omg!ubuntu! blog
[18:50] <Sledge> i cant even get ALT+F2
[18:50] <Sledge> unity panel is gone
[18:50] <JoshDreamland> xangua: Thanks much; I'll give it a look.
[18:50] <Pierewoj> let me check it
[18:50] <olabandola> stefg: thats possible , i havent load the module inside of windows , thats hp connection manager that handles that , i have read something about that i have to load the firmware inside windows and then copy the firmware files in ubuntu and use gobi_loader to load them
[18:50] <karma_police> i hate using windoze.. this is the only alternative since i tether my g1
[18:50] <Pierewoj> its my mothers notebook so... :P
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs FloodBot2
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs 36DABKXMR
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs [ND]
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs [OSU]Odysimus
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs [SW]Dodge`oFF
[18:50] <FloodBot2> Ultimate_Chaos: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:50]  * Ultimate_Chaos hugs [thor]
[18:51] <stefg> olabandola: but it could as well be the wlan. Tell about the hardware: what make/model, is the WAN-Adapter internal or is it a stick?
[18:53] <pattysmatty> ljl
[18:53] <muneeb> what to use for onscreen system monitoring? the applet which we had in panel in Ubuntu 10.10 and below
[18:53] <pattysmatty> whats ur job at ubuntu?
[18:53] <jrib> he makes cookies
[18:53] <Pierewoj> oshix, do you see my msgs?
[18:53] <pattysmatty> what kind?
[18:53] <Pierewoj> ohsix
[18:53] <LjL> pattysmatty: i don't work for Ubuntu
[18:54] <xangua> !ot | pattysmatty
[18:54] <antihero> how do I make read only doc files readable in libreoffice?
[18:54] <kostas> anybody knows about vpn export unknown error?
[18:54] <IdleOne> muneeb: there is a PPA with indicator-sysmonitor http://ppa.launchpad.net/alexeftimie/ppa/ubuntu/
[18:54] <olabandola> stefg_ thanks for helping , its a hp compaq mini 700 xx and its a wwan integrated besides the battery , i put off the battery and then stick in the simcard and then hp connection manager handles the connection and load the firmware ... is there any command to get exakt hardware spec in ubuntu ?
[18:54] <Pierewoj> ohsix: It's atheros
[18:54] <terry> antihero: You mean writable?
[18:54] <muneeb> thanks IdleOne
[18:54] <p_ahuja> hi can anybody provide me help on  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10745320
[18:55] <antihero> terry: Yeah
[18:55] <_Neytiri_> is there a tutorial on how to make a raid array during installation?
[18:55] <antihero> Sorry, I'm rather hung over
[18:55] <terry> antihero: If you mean writable, open a terminal and do chmod +w  file-name.doc
[18:55] <IdleOne> !raid
[18:55] <katsrc> why do we need firefox globalmenu?
[18:55] <pattysmatty> is chrome version for linux that u dl via google page same as the chromium that you dl via apt-get chromium???
[18:55] <antihero> terry: It's a property of the document, not on the filesystem
[18:56] <antihero> I think I've figured it out though
[18:56] <tiagoboldt> so, I'm having major issues with my wifi module, read in launchpad that fix has been commited to the kernel and will be released on the next update, any idea when will that happen? on natty
[18:56] <antihero> not sure how, I just clicked on stuff and now it's readable
[18:56] <antihero> *writable
[18:56] <IdleOne> pattysmatty: no. chrome from google is based off chromium-browser
[18:56] <terry> antihero: ok, very good.
[18:56] <pattysmatty> idleone,which one is better?
[18:56] <p_ahuja> I am unable to install any .sh file on natty
[18:57] <ikonia> p_ahuja: whats the isse
[18:57] <ikonia> issue
[18:57] <antler> pattysmatty: neither. both are unstable imo
[18:57] <IdleOne> pattysmatty: they work the same in my opinion.
[18:57] <stefg> olabandola: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Machines/Netbooks#Compaq%20Mini%20700EL makes me optimistic... does normal wlan work out-of-the box?
[18:57] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  check http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=10745320
[18:57] <ohsix> pattysmatty: the one that's packaged is better in my opinion, as it will be updated and stuff :D
[18:57] <pattysmatty> ff4 is unstable
[18:57] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  I have posted that
[18:57] <ikonia> p_ahuja: no, just explain the problem
[18:57] <LjL> pattysmatty: i'll stay with chromium-browser myself, because they're pretty much equivalent and i'm not eager to use something proprietary when there's the same thing available as open source. also, one of the main things that Chrome adds is automatic updates from Google, but those are useless in Ubuntu since it gets updated by the package manager
[18:57] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  Okay
[18:57] <antihero> terry: Thanks
[18:58] <terry> antihero: NP
[18:58] <pattysmatty> wouldn't you guys agree that ff4 is still unstable?
[18:58] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  During execution of the program terminal stucks at "Starting Installation Wizard" and no wizard comes up ever
[18:58] <LjL> !ot
[18:58] <ikonia> p_ahuja: no
[18:58] <antler> don't you guys have problems with both chrome and chromium hanging on many, many pages?
[18:58] <ikonia> p_ahuja: sorry, not you
[18:58] <pattysmatty> aww
[18:58] <Pierewoj> please someone help me with my wireless connection on new ubuntu 11, it doesng work after installing ubuntu 11 (its atheros)
[18:58] <IdleOne> pattysmatty: that is off topic for this channel.
[18:59] <pattysmatty> how do I add ff4 to auto updates?
[18:59] <ikonia> p_ahuja: what are you trying to install
[18:59] <ikonia> pattysmatty: when a new ubuntu package is released (updated) you will be offered it
[18:59] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  netbeans 7.0
[18:59] <ohsix> pattysmatty: ff4 is already auto updated like any other package
[18:59] <ikonia> p_ahuja: ok - so what else isn't installing as you said you can't install "any .sh" files, and your describing one .sh file
[18:59] <xangua> !fx4 > pattysmatty if you mean install on lucd/maverick
[19:00] <pattysmatty> speak of the devil, right hwen i said that i looked at update manager... and fresh ff4 updates are here... 16 mb worth
[19:00] <notb> does ubuntu 11.04 's ffmpeg come with h264 support builtin ?
[19:00] <frith> weird dragging windows is really slow,
[19:00] <p_ahuja> yeah i was trying one program  that is jdk 6
[19:00] <cfc_{Pawpad}> what do i type to get updates on a ubuntu server??
[19:00] <terry> Pierewoj: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742231
[19:01] <LjL> cfc_{Pawpad}: if you want to do it entirely from CLI, "sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[19:01] <ikonia> cfc_{Pawpad}: sudo apt-get update brings your list up to date, sudo apt-get upgrade updates the packages
[19:01] <xangua> cfc_{Pawpad}: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:01] <mstef> tested 11.04 via thumbdrive - unity loaded fine. just upgraded and now it says i don't have the hardward for it. what can i do?
[19:01] <olabandola> stefg: everything works just absolute fine including wlan , theres is no lan port so i have to use a lan adapter to get local network , and that also works out of the box , its just that mobile brodband i want to get working when iam away so i can remove windows from the computer
[19:01] <necreo> is there still something like netbook remix for 11.04, or is it just the regular ubuntu?
[19:01] <Sledge> ok muneeb i figured out how to login what was that dpkg command again?
[19:01] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  i also tried netbeans setup bundled with jdk6. same problem
[19:01] <iceroot> cfc_{Pawpad}: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   (not only upgrade)
[19:01] <ikonia> p_ahuja: may have to contact the .sh file owner/support then if it's just that one
[19:01] <Pierewoj> terry: thanks, hope it will work
[19:01] <xangua> necreo: you can use ubuntu on netbooks
[19:01] <terry> necreo: Far as I'm concerned it is, (but I'm not concerned :)
[19:01] <muneeb> Sledge,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity
[19:01] <LjL> !unr | necreo
[19:01] <Sledge> muneeb,  thanks
[19:02] <p_ahuja> ikonia: but its working fine on my PC with 10.10
[19:02] <notb> does ubuntu 11.04 's ffmpeg come with h264 support builtin ?
[19:02] <ikonia> p_ahuja: you're not using 10.10 though, so that's not relevant
[19:02] <olabandola> stefg : i need to go away for some minutes , can i start a private chat with you then , that makes it easier for me to get help ?
[19:02] <ikonia> notb: I don't believe so
[19:02] <notb> ikonia, how can i be sure ?
[19:02] <ikonia> notb: try to encode something ? check the libraries
[19:02] <stefg> olabandola: give me dmesg to pastebin and read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008200
[19:02] <terry> LjL: Tnx info
[19:02] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  but that clears file is correct.
[19:02] <necreo> ok, so it is default, will it automatically default to the 2D unity interface? or will it try compiz?
[19:02] <dios_mio> guys, i use a mirror for updates, a mirror in my country.. but i wonder if the updates reach the mirrors just as fast?
[19:03] <ikonia> p_ahuja: no it doesn't, it means that file works with ubuntu 10.10 - that you're not using, so it's not relevant
[19:03] <notb> k, nm, i see
[19:03] <iceroot> dios_mio: yes
[19:03] <Guest91212> hi. How can I know wtf is doing the installer ? it is saying it needs to download packages during one hour ! wtf ! it has already donwloaded the language package
[19:03] <ikonia> Guest91212: you can stop using phrases like "wtf" please
[19:03] <LjL> necreo: uhm i don't think Unity 2D is included yet... it will default to the 3D version. it works on some? most? all? netbooks...
[19:03] <tiagoboldt> dios_mio, they land on the main server and are synced to the mirrors with the frequency that the admins update them
[19:03] <p_ahuja> ikonia:  okay can you send me a link of any working sh file (small) on natty. i try that
[19:04] <terry> Guest91212: You'll just have to be patient, the servers are still over-loaded today.
[19:04] <tiagoboldt> dios_mio, that's usually less than a day, probably less than an hour
[19:04] <ikonia> p_ahuja: no
[19:04] <Sledge> muneeb, still didnt work..
[19:04] <Liera> how can I add more workspace in unity?
[19:04] <p_ahuja> okay any name
[19:04] <ikonia> p_ahuja: no
[19:04] <Guest91212> terry what packages does it needs ?
[19:04] <necreo> LjL: ok thanks, I would still prefer the 2D version, want to get most out of it
[19:05] <terry> Guest91212: I don't knwo.
[19:05] <muneeb> Sledge, on which screen are you on? virtual terminal?
[19:05] <terry> *know
[19:05] <LjL> !info unity-2d | necreo, well it's there
[19:05] <rgr> Its a really really bad idea doing the equivalent of a net install on release week.
[19:05] <LjL> necreo: i have no idea how "ready" it is, but it's there. you can also choose Classical login from the login screen
[19:05] <terry> rgr: Well said.
[19:06] <miranda_> tem algum brasileiro ai??
[19:06] <necreo> which is the gnome 2.X interface
[19:06] <LjL> !br | miranda_
[19:06] <miranda_> ALGUM BRASILEIRO?
[19:06] <LjL> miranda_: ^
[19:06] <JoFo> Help! How can I access to the keyboard manager with Natty?
[19:06] <escott> JoFo, hit the unity icon and type in keyboard. is it one of those
[19:06] <olabandola> stefg : i need to leave for ten minutes , can i start a private chat with you then to make it easier for me to work ?
[19:07] <p_ahuja> iBut can any one figure out what the problem could be as one of irc users had tried it on natty too
[19:07] <stefg> olabandola: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1008200 has all the info. Sorry, no pm
[19:07] <JoFo> escott:  Where is the Unity icon ?
[19:07] <necreo> on a seemingly unrelated note: sometimes unity on my laptop is choppy and I got weird shadow artefacts (binary nvidia driver), however I never get the impression my GPU is being used for Unity, how can I check this?
[19:07] <escott> JoFo, top left of the screen
[19:08] <p_ahuja> arand_: dear can you please tell me that if netbeans worked on yours Natty or not
[19:08] <yfk> how can I remove the workspace switcher from the unity launcher?
[19:08] <escott> necreo, glxinfo will tell you what glx driver you are using
[19:08] <JoFo> escott:  That's it. Thanks.
[19:08] <mastro> stefg, ah.. Lenovo seems too expensive for my company :/ What about Dell Vostro? I haven't seen one in Ubuntu compatibility list
[19:08] <andeeeuk> does alt-tab still work in 11.04?
[19:09] <arand_> p_ahuja: The install started fine, I haven't actually treid starting it.
[19:09] <Sledge> muneeb,  if i do ctrl alt f2, it takes me to a black screen and i can't figure out how to get back to chat once i get in there
[19:09] <Sledge> muneeb,  black login screen..
[19:09] <Zorlin> anyone know how to enable menus and so on in my seperate X screen (nvidia)?
[19:09] <rgr> Sledge: C-a-f7 probably
[19:09] <muneeb> Sledge, ctrl+alt+f7
[19:09] <rach0> Sledge, ctr+alt+f7
[19:09] <p_ahuja> arand_:  thanks.... ikonia  see dear its running on natty
[19:09] <speedy> Here is some startup features to get Natty up and running  >>>  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[19:09] <Sledge> muneeb,  ok well.. i did the command and still i have nothing
[19:10] <rach0> Sledge, startx maybe
[19:10] <Sledge> muneeb,  ok yes that worked.
[19:10] <mstef> just upgraded to 11.04..unity worked fine when testing off a thumb drive.. after the upgrade, got a message about my hardward not meeting the requirements.. and no unity.. what can be done?
[19:10] <Sledge> i can go back and forth now from terminal and GUI
[19:10] <mstef> my hardward clearly works fine
[19:10] <muneeb> Sledge, did you get Login screen?
[19:11] <Sledge> muneeb,  yes
[19:11] <stefg> mastro: i don't know. i just wanted to let you know that a lot of developers run thinkads, there is huge community support for them so its the most hassle free notebook to run linux on.  Lenovo is quitting the R-series, maybe you can find one on sale
[19:11] <muneeb> Sledge, GUI Login Screen?
[19:11] <Sledge> muneeb,  i executed the command dpkg-reconfigure, no terminal
[19:11] <rgr> mstef: you paste in into pastebin the detailed message you actually got indicating what HW is deemed not to work for a start. People cant not guess.
[19:12] <speedy> Things to do afteru get natty up and completing updated you can apply some of these features >> http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/04/things-to-do-after-installing-new.html
[19:12] <rgr> stefg: ++ on thinkpads. Asus run debian well too so I guess probably Ubuntu too.
[19:12] <Raikia> Uh....ubuntu just logged me out for no reason at all.  While I was working.... Does anyone know why this might happen?
[19:12] <muneeb> Sledge, you have to execute that command on ctrl+alt+f1 i.e. virtual terminal then reboot and try loging in
[19:12] <Sledge> i figured that command sudo dpkg-reconfigure unity would get me back to default, but still no change in the GUI
[19:12] <mstef> rgr, there is no message about the hardware in specifics.. it just says that you don;t have the right hardawrd to run unity..yet it worked fine off the thumb drive
[19:12] <aptidude_> If I have a current installation with a separate partition for home and do the install that says completely erase Ubuntu will it only erase the root partition? or does that completely format the whole disk?
[19:12] <donpdonp> is there a way to get the CPU monitor applet back in the top bar?
[19:13] <rgr> Sledge: no. That does nothing whatsoever unless you put in defaults again.
[19:13] <J_Rey> *sigh*
[19:13] <rgr> mstef: nothing in the logs?
[19:13] <J_Rey> so I found https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/installation-guide/i386/graphical.html but its not too helpful
[19:13] <Sledge> rgr, so could you please tell me how to put in the defaults?
[19:13] <xangua> donpdonp: there is a cpu monitor 'indicator'
[19:13] <Raikia> Uh....ubuntu just logged me out for no reason at all.  While I was working.... Does anyone know why this might happen?
[19:13] <mstef> rgr, i don;t know where to find that
[19:13] <zzecool> donpdonp,
[19:13] <zzecool> yes
[19:13] <donpdonp> xangua: how would i set that up?
[19:13] <kopeG> Hello, I'm installing uuntu 11.04. The installation wizard hangs on the keyboard layout. what should i do?
[19:13] <zzecool> wait a sec
[19:14] <rgr> mstef: possibly dmesg. /var/log/syslog. google up the details for Ubuntu system logging.
[19:14] <xangua> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/01/the-omg-guide-to-must-have-indicator-applets/
[19:14] <zzecool> donpdonp, http://www.webupd8.org/2011/04/things-to-tweak-fix-after-installing.html
[19:14] <muneeb> rgr does Sledge has to execute that compiz --replace command?
[19:14] <mastro> stefg, thank you.. i'd like to buy one.. but they say it's too expensive :) will be next time
[19:14] <zzecool> read this article
[19:14] <J_Rey> I'm trying to install 10.10 from LiveCD but after clicking Install Ubuntu I get an unrecoverable error
[19:14] <Sledge> muneeb,  i did .. didnt work
[19:14] <rgr> muneeb: I dont know.
[19:14] <donpdonp> zzecool, xangua: thank you!!
[19:14] <Sledge> probably compiz-- replace
[19:14] <Sledge> yes
[19:14] <Sledge> i think i had this problem before
[19:14] <J_Rey> it opens a desktop session then after that
[19:14] <rgr> "doesnt work" is not a lot to go on.
[19:15] <p_ahuja> anybody who could figure out the problem
[19:15] <J_Rey> so would it be recommended to install from CLI or try the Graphical Installer again?
[19:15] <sushemsu>  are there proprietary drivers for on board video for my toshiba laptop on my ubuntu 10.10
[19:15] <Sledge> rgr, i was in ccsm and i canged some settings and conflicts were popping up left and right with desktop cube, and now all of a sudden i cannot run any programs with alt+f2, the unity panel's are gone and im left with nothing but a desktop
[19:15] <muneeb> Sledge, try changing to classic then switch to Unity again
[19:15] <Sledge> muneeb,  the problem is i cannot run CCSM
[19:16] <muneeb> Sledge, well that's strange!!
[19:16] <rgr> switching back and forther wont remove his defaults. He needs top reinstall his default config files.
[19:16] <joe_happy> hey so i play world of warcfraft in ubuntu, but sice i upgraded it to 11.04 its been kind of acting up , like whenever i click on an icon in game the camera just goes flying around and ends up pointing up and stays there
[19:17] <escott> Sledge, did compiz/unity crash. you could try restarting from a terminal if you can access one
[19:17] <J_Rey> sushemsu: if its binary then likely no where you'd have to download & install later
[19:17] <rgr> p_ahuja: what problem? I saw one of the "regs" telling you 10.10 was not relevant but missed what went before.
[19:17] <Sledge> escott the only thing i can access now is virtual terminal
[19:17] <madsy> I'd like to buy an external video recorder. Any recommendations that is guaranteed to work with Ubuntu over USB or Firewire?
[19:17] <kopeG> Hello, I'm installing uuntu 11.04. The installation wizard hangs on the keyboard layout (hour glass + grayed 'back' & 'forward' + "Ready when you are" since 20 minutes). what should i do?
[19:17] <muneeb> Sledge, reinstall unity and ccsm
[19:17] <count0nz> !wine bug
[19:18] <Sledge> sudo apt-get install unity ?
[19:18] <muneeb> Sledge, sudo apt-get purge unity ccsm
[19:18] <rgr> madsy: what SW do you intend to use with it out of curiosity? most SW i looked at for use with video editing on my Linux desktop was simple awful.
[19:18] <rach0> Sledge, sudo apt-get install -reinstall ccsm
[19:18] <p_ahuja> rgr: I was trying to install Netbeans 7.0. During execution of the program terminal stucks at "Starting Installation Wizard" and no wizard comes up ever
[19:18] <escott> Sledge, have you tried logging out and starting a new session?
[19:18] <Sledge> escott,  yes
[19:18] <J_Rey> kopeG: see https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/installation-guide/index.html
[19:18] <muneeb> Sledge, then sudo apt-get install unity ccsm
[19:19] <madsy> rgr: Cinerella if possible.
[19:19] <p_ahuja> rgr:  I am using Natty
[19:19] <escott> Sledge, or nuke the .compiz/config folder
[19:19] <J_Rey> ok blah blah blah
[19:19] <escott> rather .config/compiz
[19:19] <J_Rey> I'll figure it another day
[19:19] <multi_io> in unity, how can I turn off the super+<number> shortcuts for starting applications from the side panel?
[19:20] <escott> multi_io, probably in ccsm
[19:20] <kostas> I setup a VPN connection and I want to save settings. There is an export button  in the dialog box. When I press it a dialog box appears to save the file. When I confirm file name I get an unknown error. Anybody help???
[19:20] <madsy> rgr: But I don't plan to do a lot of editing anyway. I just want to record my desktop in HD without botching my processor.
[19:21] <RealOp> !upgrade
[19:21] <kopeG> Hello, I'm installing ubuntu 11.04. The installation wizard hangs on the keyboard layout (hour glass + grayed 'back' & 'forward' + "Ready when you are" since 20 minutes). what should i do?
[19:21] <p_ahuja> rgr:  so what do you think could be the error
[19:22] <rgr> madsy: yeah, most of the screen capture utils for X are pretty rubbish : especially with xmonad as a WM. Did you find any decent annottion SW by any chance for adding text to a screen capture?
[19:22] <rgr> p_ahuja: your java version?
[19:22] <p_ahuja> rgr:  image is at http://www.itspriyank.com/Screenshot.png
[19:22] <p_ahuja> rgr:  I am using the pack bundled with java jdk6
[19:23] <rgr> did you not install as root?
[19:23] <escott> kopeG, could you hotplug a usb keyboard?
[19:23] <rgr> I dont know I must admit.
[19:23] <Sledge> said unable to locate package CCSM
[19:23] <ayrton> i upgraded to 11.04  but it looks awful, how do i get it to look like original ubuntu again ?
[19:23] <multi_io> escott: it's not in the "keyboard shortcuts" settings.
[19:23] <d3tour> Hey guys, I have just upgraded to 11.04 (switched to gnome 3 from unity but other than that a pretty basic install) and I am playing around with the screen recording for the first time. Can someone point me in the right direction for saving the recordings in a fileformat other than .webm?
[19:23] <p_ahuja> rgr:  was that for me "did you not install as root?"
[19:24] <escott> multi_io, don't know then. its not designed to be as configurable as gnome2
[19:24] <madsy> rgr: As I mentioned, I use Cinerella when I need to edit video. Nothing else (for Linux) comes close in my opinion.
[19:24]  * rgr wonders why anyone would upgrade to a new version whose mainclaim is a totally different look and feel without first checking it...
[19:24] <muelli> d3tour: you could use smth like istanbul or recordmydesktop
[19:24] <rgr> ah yes
[19:24] <ohsix> madsy: unfortunately your ability to record your desktop relies heavily on the DAMAGE support in your video drivers, and some are very poor
[19:24] <ohsix> rgr: wonder somewhere else.
[19:24] <escott> d3tour, what program are you using to record?
[19:24] <Sledge> muneeb,  it said it was unable to locate package ccsm
[19:24] <p_ahuja> rgr:  sorry but no
[19:24] <muelli> escott: gnoem-shell
[19:25] <madsy> ohsix: Indeed. That's exactly why I want to stream video to an external device instead. Which was my initial question here.
[19:25] <ohsix> madsy: what screen recorders have you tried?
[19:25] <Sledge> muneeb,  ccsm is only the manageing GUI applette im sure compiz needs to be reinstalled anyway
[19:25] <d3tour> escott: I am just using whatever comes with it.
[19:25] <madsy> ohsix: All of them.
[19:25] <stravant> Is there any other volume control applet I can get than gnome-volume-control? Gnome-volume control is instantly re-muting itself when I try to unmute it. I now have reason to believe it's a bug in gnome-volume-control, since I tried it again this morning and it work one time... until I close gnome-volume control and it went back to being muted and now I can't make it work again.
[19:25] <ohsix> madsy: so you've tried vnc2swf?
[19:25] <rgr> d3tour: if you want to really impress your friends use ffmpeg too ...
[19:25] <d3tour> muelli: So just use a different app?
[19:25] <rach0> Sledge, sudo apt-get install -reinstall compiz
[19:25] <p_ahuja> rgr:  could it be problamatic
[19:25] <rgr> rach0: thats doesnt replace config files
[19:26] <ohsix> madsy: and istanbul?
[19:26] <muneeb> Sledge, sudo ap-get install simple-ccsm
[19:26] <muelli> d3tour: yes. I don't know how to modify the GStreamer Pipeline that is used to create that webm video. Dunno even if it's easily possible. It should be by writing a plugin thuogh.
[19:26] <AlecTaylor> hi
[19:26] <madsy> ohsix: I havne't tried vnc2swf, but istanbul yes
[19:26] <d3tour> Alright. Thank you all for your help!
[19:26] <rgr> writing a plugin ... or, just maybe, use another app ...
[19:26] <ohsix> Sledge: ccsm is in the compizconfig-settings-manager package
[19:27] <ohsix> and there are no global compiz options, they are all stored in your user session so reinstalling is going to do nothing
[19:27] <madsy> ohsix: But it doesn't really matter much which software I use. Recording in 1280x800 is too work intensive for my laptop.
[19:27] <AlecTaylor> I've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?
[19:27] <muneeb> Sledge, sorry it's compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:27] <ohsix> madsy: odd
[19:27] <rach0> Sledge, sudo apt-get purge compiz ccsm and then sudo apt-get install compiz ccsm
[19:27] <madsy> ohsix: The best solution would be to record from my DVI port with an external device
[19:27] <stravant> ohsix: Do you remember the sound problem from yesterday? This morning I was playing with it and it worked for some reason, but broke again when I closed gnome-volume control. Would I be right in assuming that almost certainly means it's a bug in gnome-volume control?
[19:27] <ohsix> madsy: if you can find something that does that, yes :]
[19:28] <BKTech86> I installed Windows 7 on /dev/sda5, successfully reinstalled grub, but grub doesn't detect the windows7 installation there
[19:28] <BKTech86> how can i fix this?
[19:28] <ohsix> madsy: but you can help recording a lot by disabling compositing and stuff like compiz before you do it
[19:28] <Froq> does anyone know of an IRC client that I can transfer over SSH with the x11 command so I have the interface & all?
[19:28] <rgr> stravant: you would be silly to assume that. It could still be one of many things not least inter process messaging over dbus.
[19:28] <madsy> ohsix: Yes, and that was my question. Suggestions for devices that can record video from DVI, VGA, USB or Firewire. Which works on Ubuntu
[19:28] <muneeb> Sledge, sudo apt-get purge compiz acompizconfig-settings-manager and then sudo apt-get install compiz  compizconfig-settings-manager
[19:28] <avinash> Hi guys , i have problem in browsing .. my wireless is proper and i can see the ip .. can ping other computers in same nw .. but some how not able to browse .. gets stuck in resolving proxy .. any help pls ..
[19:28] <escott> Froq, xchat
[19:28] <ohsix> madsy: damage works kind of well when theres no 3d involved, and something like vnc2swf will have a very low overhead for recording the results in terms of disk space and complexity
[19:28] <Froq> escott: THANKS
[19:28] <rgr> Froq: what "x11 command"?
[19:28] <bahamas> hello. i'm upgrading my ubuntu and at one point it's prompting to choose whether to keep the current menu.lst or install a new one?
[19:28] <rgr> do you mean using x forwarding?
[19:29] <bahamas> what should i do?
[19:29] <a2c4n9e1> hi, i'm confused. my ubuntu can't be pinged from outside, but it can ping to outside. what might go wrong?
[19:29] <rgr> why not use a terminal one like irssi? Much better and faster.
[19:29] <[thor]> Hi Guys, i'm testing a nVidia Corporation G92 [GeForce GTS 250] video device in 11.04. 3D acceleration is not working, and it does not show any available drivers in "Additional Hardware". On startup, the screen flashes as Unity attempts to load, but using "PS -aux \I can run OPENGL applications, but they are extremely slow. Any suggestions?
[19:29] <ohsix> stravant: it's another client, unless you have something binding mute and are hitting it all the time
[19:29] <escott> a2c4n9e1, are you being a NAT? most people are
[19:29] <bahamas> i've previously modified that file because i have a dual boot system
[19:29] <ohsix> rgr: this communication doesn't take place over dbus, so before you call someone silly know what you're talking about
[19:30] <a2c4n9e1> escott: the other computer is connected through a router
[19:30] <rgr> [thor]: yes. Stay away from intel graphics at all costs. I had AWFUL performance on my thinkpads with intel.
[19:30] <[thor]> s/ using "PS -aux \/ using "ps -aux | grep unity"
[19:30] <stravant> ohsix: Is there any other volume control I can use to see?
[19:30] <osse> bahamas, how have you modified it? Which OS is the other one?
[19:30] <[thor]> rgr: where did i say intel?
[19:30] <alone08> hi
[19:30] <ohsix> stravant: it's simple to see, if g-v-c is closed and it still mutes, its' not g-v-c
[19:30] <AlecTaylor> I've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?
[19:30] <Froq> rgr: ssh -X
[19:30] <bahamas> osse, i don't remember how i've modified it. the other OS is Windows XP
[19:30] <rgr> [thor]: sorry, mind warp. I was just looking at another video issue.
[19:30] <escott> a2c4n9e1, if your ip address is 192.168.X.X you can't be ping from anyone outside your network
[19:30] <Guest71298> thor ...how much memory you have?
[19:31] <ohsix> stravant: you can see ALL connected clients in the output of pacmd list-clients, that includes all mixers and apps playing sounds
[19:31] <[thor]> Guest71298: 6GB
[19:31] <ohsix> rgr: my intel card is great
[19:31] <stravant> ohsix: My system has always booted with the sound muted, even without gvc, so I need some way to unmute it, I assume
[19:31] <[thor]> Guest71298: as well as 1GB video memory
[19:31] <justben> Just upgraded to Natty. Liking it so far, but Chrome wants to maximize every time I start it. Anyone have any idea what might cause that?
[19:31] <rgr> [thor]: are you sure the nvidia driver is loaded? (silly Q I know but best to check).
[19:31] <denny_b_> This is interesting, probably a bug I'm sure. -- Just upgraded from 10.04 up to 11.04 and I have no sound. I had sound though when upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10. Any ideas?
[19:31] <alone08> i want some help
[19:31] <ohsix> rgr: did you have an i810? refrain from offering "advice" like that please
[19:31] <osse> bahamas, I would suggest installing a new menu.lst. Grub has gotten pretty good at detect stuff lately.
[19:31] <escott> stravant, have you tried alsamixer?
[19:31] <alone08> help me
[19:31] <Guest71298> did you run the test programs...benchmark stuff?
[19:31] <rgr> Have you considered trying sgfxi?
[19:31] <IdleOne> [thor]: I know that nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2) was removed, perhaps yours was also.
[19:31] <bahamas> osse, ok, thanks. i'll do that
[19:31] <Froq> this channel moves WAY to fast for me...
[19:31] <ohsix> stravant: you can unmute it with the applet, without opening the properties
[19:31] <escott> !help | alone08
[19:31] <[thor]> rgr: there is no driver listed in the "Additional Drivers" list
[19:32] <alone08> escott
[19:32] <[thor]> IdleOne: where can i see a list of supported cards?!
[19:32] <osse> bahamas, hold on. which versions are you upgrading from and to?
[19:32] <DeadEnd> I have enabled classic desktop but know wish to go back to unity  but the option to change session on the bottom bar below login prompt has dissapered, how do i change my session bk?
[19:32] <IdleOne> [thor]: let me find out, gimme a minute
[19:32] <bahamas> 9.04 to 9.10
[19:32] <rgr> [thor]: consider sgfxi. I dont know, but you never know.
[19:32] <a2c4n9e1> escott: i'm having 2 network connected thru a router, and one line from the router goes to the net, pc from net A, can't Ping to my ubuntu in net B, but my ubuntu can ping to net A pc. bot using 192.168.x.x with different subnet
[19:32] <bahamas> osse, ^^
[19:32] <Guest71298> <--had problems with Ubuntu 11.03....wireless install craps out
[19:33] <DrGrov> Evening
[19:33] <osse> bahamas, is it too late? :P If I'm not mistaken 9.04 used grub, not grub2.
[19:33] <OY1R> after getting this error > http://pastebin.com/i2ZahWqH (mount /dev on /root failed invalid argument), i was told to reinstall grub, now when i reboot i only get a grub prompt_ anyone ? using ubuntu 10.10.
[19:33] <a2c4n9e1> escott: i think its the firewall in ubuntu blocking outside connection to the pc. can someone help me?
[19:33] <DrGrov> Can I use Simple Backup on 10.04 in order to get a quick backup of my system before I install 11.04 ?
[19:33] <DrGrov> Or do I need to back it up some other way when I will upgrade to 11.04 ?
[19:33] <osse> bahamas, I would still install a new one though, but make a backup of the original
[19:33] <bahamas> osse, i already went ahead with the installation, if that's what you mean by "too late"
[19:34] <alone08> escott ??  can you help in compiling source code
[19:34] <ysis> Hi, I just upgraded from Maverick to Natty and want Firefox 3.6 back, mostly because of some incompatible extensions I miss. Any hints how to do this?
[19:34] <MrMist1> I'm having problems with hdparm.conf... anyone here with any experience? I'm using natty
[19:34] <escott> a2c4n9e1, you can check your iptables, but also check the router config to make sure that net B has a route to net A
[19:34] <osse> bahamas, it'll probably be fine. It's been a long time since I've had to modify the grub menu manually
[19:35] <alone08> hi all
[19:35] <alone08> hi all
[19:35] <alone08> help me
[19:35] <alone08> i am newbie
[19:35] <IdleOne> [thor]: I can't seem to find a list. soon as I get info I'll msg you ok?
[19:35] <joepa> is it possible to change the shortcuts in the unity dash? or are they hard coded?
[19:36] <[thor]> IdleOne: roger that.
[19:36] <Acriax> I figured out how to fix the problem with the scheme turning light grey. I have to run "killall gnome-settings-daemon ; gnome-settings-daemon" after every login. Now my question is, how can I automate this?
[19:36] <bahamas> osse, ok. another question: the installer is telling me that postgres 8.3 is obsolete but still installed and that i should install the latest packages. should i do that now or wait until the upgrading process finishes?
[19:36] <a2c4n9e1> escott: i don't know how to screw around with linux iptables. but the router firewal doesn't block any connection throu it. but you CAN ping to my ubuntu from within the router,
[19:36] <osse> bahamas, but I apologize in advance if it turns out I've given som incredibly stupid advice.
[19:36] <alone08> how to compile source code
[19:36] <alone08> i want to compile ed source code
[19:37] <bahamas> osse, it's okay. i imagine it's not that hard to edit menu.lst again
[19:37] <rach0> alone08, usually you start by reading the INSTALL file or the README file
[19:37] <jrib> !compile | alone08
[19:37] <alone08> can any1 help me
[19:37] <escott> alone08, install gcc look at man gcc
[19:37] <a2c4n9e1> !iptables
[19:37] <osse> bahamas, I would wait. In reality I don't think you have a choice since the package manager thingy is in use by the upgrade process.
[19:37] <ohsix> rgr: please don't suggest people try sgfxi, it will likely just make a mess someoen else will have to clean up
[19:37] <jrib> alone08: you know ed is in the repositories and you probably have it already?
[19:37] <alone08> thanks rach
[19:37] <escott> a2c4n9e1, its tough to say without knowing more details
[19:37] <alone08> thanks bro
[19:37] <Soothsayer> how do you view Nautilus settings?
[19:37] <destinydriven> I tried to change my computer name in /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname, rebooted and old name still there in natty. Did I miss something?
[19:38] <rach0> alone08,  and get sudo apt-get install build-essential
[19:38] <Soothsayer> like I want the edit path bar
[19:38] <bahamas> osse, ok. i've moving forward
[19:38] <a2c4n9e1> escott: what kind of detail should i presented to you.
[19:38] <alone08> thanks bros
[19:38] <escott> a2c4n9e1, it is possible to configure to not respond to ping, so check iptables and flush any rules if they exist
[19:38] <bahamas> s/'ve/'m/
[19:38] <warp_> iceroot: thanks a lot... your tip worked fine!
[19:38] <escott> a2c4n9e1, but are you sure the router isn't acting as a NAT?
[19:39] <herol3oy> why when i type service sshd restart  >>> it doen'st work? >>>>  sshd: unrecognized service
[19:39] <warp_> iceroot: with it I could resume my upgrade process.... from 10.10 to 11.04
[19:39] <alone08> also want to know i have started learning kernel source code
[19:39] <osse> bahamas, I think I gotten the question about menu.lst before without me even changing the file myself at all. If you can't remember how you modified it it probably wasn't important :P Stuff like which is where on the menu and timeout and all that is easy to change. Are you going through a chain of upgrades or are you stopping at 9.10 ?
[19:39] <popey> herol3oy: its ssh not sshd
[19:39] <escott> Wardje, think it is just "ssh"
[19:39] <alone08> but having lot of problems
[19:39] <a2c4n9e1> escott, i'm preety sure, that my router only nating connection that goes to the internet from within
[19:39] <Froq> What language are kernels written in?
[19:39] <rgr> C mostly in Linux world...
[19:39] <escott> Wardje, mean herol3oy
[19:39] <rach0> Froq, C and assembler mainly
[19:39] <alone08> can any1 tell me from whr to start
[19:40] <ohsix> osse: fwiw, re: grub, os-prober being in the mix with the menu builder has made it much better :] not just grub
[19:40] <a2c4n9e1> escott, because another windows pc from the net B can be pinged from netA
[19:40] <rgr> very rarely assembler.
[19:40] <bahamas> osse, well, my computer is pretty old. would a version newer than 9.10 work okay?
[19:40] <alone08> Frgo ...in c
[19:40] <Froq> O... where can I get the source code for the kernel ubuntu uses?
[19:40] <rgr> Froq: the internet.
[19:40] <escott> a2c4n9e1, then flush your iptables
[19:40] <Froq> rgr: no way!  is there a specific site it is @?
[19:40] <rgr> or you can install it.
[19:40] <alone08> Frog ....from kernel.org
[19:40] <a2c4n9e1> escott, how to do so in ubuntu?
[19:40] <carandraug> Froq, it's on the ubuntu repos
[19:40] <ohsix> rgr: please, refrain from speaking at all if you aren't going to be helping people
[19:40] <schnuffle> Froq: use apt-get to install the sources
[19:40] <Froq> alone08: thanks
[19:41] <Froq> carandraug: THANKS
[19:41] <gurmal> how to install xfce sudo apt-get install xfce   sudo apt-get install xfce: command not found
[19:41] <user_> fck hackers ubuntu servers
[19:41] <rgr> alone08: no. not from kernel.org at all.
[19:41] <osse> ohsix, true! but in this case I think we are stuck with grub, not grub2 which is what made it all better, I believe.
[19:41] <Froq> schnuffle: not running ubuntu @ the moment, so...
[19:41] <rgr> ubuntu has a patched kernel.
[19:41] <AlecTaylor> I've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?
[19:41] <escott> a2c4n9e1, from the command line sudo iptables --list to show tables sudo iptables --flush
[19:41] <user_> orlado pirates
[19:41] <ohsix> Froq: apt-get source linux-image-* (depends on the version you want)
[19:41] <carandraug> Froq, use the ubuntu repos, not kernel.org if you want to compile exactly the same thing
[19:41] <a2c4n9e1> ok
[19:41] <a2c4n9e1> thanks escott
[19:41] <IdleOne> Froq: apt-get source linux-source-2.6.38
[19:41] <bahamas> osse, i have a 2600 athlon cpu and 512 ram, iirc
[19:42] <Froq> thanks guys!
[19:42] <ohsix> Froq: that'll check out all the files used to build the package so you can rebuild them yourself; if you want to maintain modifications it might be easier to familiarize yourself with the debian maintainer tools, and stuff like pbuilder
[19:42] <user_> fck cheater
[19:42] <escott> a2c4n9e1, and if you have another computer on the same subnet as the ubuntu try to ping from it to verify that the ubuntu system responds to pings
[19:42] <rgr> learn to use the help facilities your desktop has too. open synaptic and search.
[19:43] <escott> a2c4n9e1, if it does then your problem is in your router/routes on the other network
[19:43] <IdleOne> rgr: Please stop telling people to search the internet. it is not helpful and many people don't have the "google fu"
[19:43] <ohsix> osse: shrug, just meant to hilight os-prober's role
[19:43] <Logan_> cheater333: Do you have a question?
[19:43] <rgr> IdleOne: please mind your own business or READ what I said.
[19:43] <osse> bahamas, I'm not really sure. I can't think of anything that should make it slower except for fancier desktop effects which you can turn off.
[19:43] <akashm1990> Is there any command that will reset my Ubuntu state to default 10.10? i.e. undo any modifications I made  (Something like doing a system restore to the 1st day of OS install in Windows)
[19:43] <escott> AlecTaylor, have you tried xrandr on the guest?
[19:43] <rgr> I corrected the WRONG answers and then suggested using SYNAPTIC!
[19:43] <ohsix> rgr: apt-cache search is generally more comprehensible without introducing all the complexity of something like synaptic
[19:43] <alone08> tell frm whr to start reading kernel source
[19:43] <IdleOne> rgr: Drop your attitude. I am telling you to stop or I will remove you.
[19:43] <phibxr> Can you disable the reddish Ubuntu One-bar in Nautilus in your Documents-folder etc?
[19:43] <mathmoi> Hi, Can I make a minimal install of ubuntu with the regular CD or do I need to use the server CD?
[19:43] <MrMist1> Ubuntu Natty seems to skip hdparm.conf during bootup... my settings for spinning down the HD is ignored completely. Anyone want to help me solve this?
[19:43] <Froq> man, these IRC channels are the greatest thing EVER
[19:43] <gurmal>  how to install xfce sudo apt-get install xfce   sudo apt-get install xfce: command not found  whats wrong here
[19:43] <Logan_> !minimal | mathmoi
[19:44] <mathmoi> Logan_: Thanks
[19:44] <Logan_> mathmoi: You're welcome.
[19:44] <rgr> IdleOne: once more. Please read what I typed. I did NOT refer him to google. I corrected tge wrong answers and suggsted he use Synaptic. This is helpful.
[19:44] <escott> akashm1990, reinstall/etc-keeper/btrfs snapshots there is no single comand
[19:44] <bahamas> osse, ah. ok. i think i'll wait though because this upgrade took about 2 hours, and i don't have the patience to wait more
[19:44] <ohsix> rgr: you referred him to search with something else
[19:44] <gurmal> @Froq true
[19:44] <Sledge> muneeb,  fixed.
[19:45] <ohsix> rgr: think about telling a frail old lady to use a computer when all she wanted was a calculator
[19:45] <escott> akashm1990, if you've broken something let us know and we can try to fix it
[19:45] <gurmal>  how to install xfce sudo apt-get install xfce   sudo apt-get install xfce: command not found whats wrong with this command
[19:45] <ohsix> rgr: if she already knows about computers it's a bonus, otherwise it is needless trouble
[19:45] <carandraug> mathmoi, I think for the minimal install it's the alternate install, not the server
[19:45] <greg__> h
[19:45] <rgr> gurmal: whats with the underscores?
[19:45] <TuffPoo> hey guys i got an issue im getting this when i try to install simcity from disk... "The file '/media/SIMCITY3000/SETUP/ENGLISH/SETUP.EXE' is not marked as executable.  If this was downloaded or copied from an untrusted source, it may be dangerous to run.  For more details, read about the executable bit."
[19:45] <schnuffle> gurmal: search for xfce, I think the packages are called xfce4
[19:45] <muneeb> Sledge, great!
[19:45] <ohsix> gurmal: you have garbage characters where there should be spaces
[19:45] <rgr> Or use synaptic and search.
[19:46] <escott> TuffPoo, thats wine warning you to chmod +x the windows executables you trust
[19:46] <rach0> gurmal, sudo apt-get install xfce4
[19:46] <Um_cara_Qualquer> does anybody knows the name of this movie: OFJ.Dual.avi ?
[19:46] <herol3oy> escott: so we have no such a package named sshd?!
[19:46] <rgr> there is no shame in using the gui tool. Its there for a reason and can show you related packages very easily.
[19:46] <ohsix> rgr: synaptic may seem simple to you, and you even know it can search! but if telling someone to run a command that directly shows the information they are interested, and is comprehensible, it is preferable
[19:46] <IdleOne> Um_cara_Qualquer: wrong channel.
[19:47] <greg__> I'm trying to stream Netflix. Is there a way to do it using Ubuntu 10.04, or should I install a Windows partition. I have a Windows XP disc.
[19:47] <gurmal> ok i get it xfce4
[19:47] <escott> herol3oy, there is an ssh-server but the only "service" would be the sshd not the client. agreed it seems a little weird name for the service
[19:47] <TuffPoo> escott: its a safe exe i know for sure so the command would be "chmod +x /media/SIMCITY3000/SETUP/ENGLISH/SETUP.EXE"
[19:47] <rgr> greg__: what are you trying to install exactly?
[19:47] <Stameni> if i set evolution to check for mail every 5 minuts, will it display me notify when mail is receved or it will be just stored in inbox ?
[19:47] <Um_cara_Qualquer> IdleOne, which one is the right?
[19:47] <erkan^> how install I Gnome 3 on Ubuntu 11.04 ?
[19:47] <IdleOne> Um_cara_Qualquer: I don't know but not here.
[19:47] <rach0> erkan^,  google for gnome3 ppa for natty
[19:47] <escott> TuffPoo, i believe that should make wine shut up
[19:47] <erkan^> is ppa good, rach0 ?
[19:47] <IdleOne> !gnome3 | erkan^
[19:47] <ohsix> Um_cara_Qualquer: "operaco fim de jogo dublado" or so says the gooel result associated with it
[19:48] <akashm1990> escott, Can a reinstall be done easily without messing up GRUB? I seem to have broken various things in the system..  have 2 versions of JDK installed somehow(some programs see one, some see the other). apt-get has a habit of hanging,etc..
[19:48] <erkan^> ok i see
[19:48] <Um_cara_Qualquer> hmm
[19:48] <herol3oy> escott:  actually what is "sshd"
[19:48] <herol3oy> ?
[19:48] <Glowball> Where are the torrent files located on the website? (Every time, I end up here asking the link, so I better do it right this time... :P)
[19:48] <ohsix> Um_cara_Qualquer: i've found quoting filenames can often get you to the page that references them, doesn't mean you'll fidn anything though :]
[19:48] <Stameni> if i set evolution to check for mail every 5 minuts, will it display me notify when mail is receved or it will be just stored in inbox ?
[19:48] <rach0> erkan^,  i should say use it at your own risk
[19:48] <cntrational> my resolution is set to 1024x768, when it's supposed to be set to 1368x768. what do I do?
[19:48] <escott> herol3oy, sshd is the ssh daemon (runs in the background providing a server to connect to), ssh is the client allows you to connect to other servers
[19:48] <Um_cara_Qualquer> ohsix, @@ you are right
[19:48] <ohsix> Glowball: they're next to the .iso files in the mirror directory
[19:48] <herol3oy> escott: because we have ssh for client and openssh for server side?
[19:48] <Um_cara_Qualquer> ohsix, thx a lot man
[19:48] <ohsix> Um_cara_Qualquer: np
[19:49] <rgr> herol3oy: this is really a great resource - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[19:49] <Glowball> ohsix: Which is where, starting from the homepage?
[19:49] <rgr> it explains the setup well
[19:49] <carandraug> cntrational, go to the monitor preferences and change it
[19:49] <escott> akashm1990, grub is pretty much automatic these days. are you concerned about some other os?
[19:49] <cntrational> carandraug: it's not there, that's the problem
[19:49] <TuffPoo> escott: hmmm i did do the command but its not changing it
[19:49] <cntrational> carandraug: Ubuntu isn't detecting the proper resolution
[19:49] <ohsix> Glowball: well i never found a great way to get it without going to the mirrors manually, one sec
[19:49] <erkan^> I understand it, rach0
[19:49] <akashm1990> escott, yes, its a dual boot setup with Windows 7
[19:49] <herol3oy> does anybody install 11.4? anyproblem yet? something that bother you? everyting is coool or not?
[19:50] <rgr> akashm1990: you might need to sudo update-grub after installing to get win7 back in to grub,
[19:50] <IdleOne> Glowball: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/alternative-download
[19:50] <charas> Congratulations Ubuntu. I am totally digging 11.04
[19:50] <ohsix> cntrational: ubuntu doesn't detect the resolution, your monitor may or may not have EDID information or the driver might have known modes, lacking these it needs to be told which modes are valid
[19:50] <carandraug> cntrational, on the old times you could edit xorg.conf. But I think ubuntu doesn't use X anymore so I don't know how to fix it
[19:50] <escott> herol3oy, well they are both openssh but one is the client only, the other is the server only so install openssh-server and then start the ssh service
[19:50] <rgr> carandraug: of course ubuntu uses X.
[19:50] <carandraug> rgr, wasn't it vchanging to wayland?
[19:50] <Glowball> IdleOne: Ah, I see them. And how to get there :) Thanks.
[19:50] <escott> TuffPoo, is there a #wine channel?
[19:50] <herol3oy> thanks dude!
[19:50] <Froq> How do I update my desktop to the newest ubuntu via terminal?
[19:50] <cntrational> carandraug: that's on 11.10, afaik
[19:50] <Froq> sudo apt-get upgrade?
[19:50] <rgr> And xorg.conf is still there and useable and in many cases (mine) necessary too.
[19:51] <akashm1990> escott, rgr So, I can also download 11.04 , Install it like  I installed 10.04 , and with minimal effort get windows 7 back in GRUB. Right? I should overwrite the old Ubuntu install?
[19:51] <herol3oy> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[19:51] <schnuffle> Froq: change the repository entries and use dis-upgrade
[19:51] <jrib> !upgrade | Froq
[19:51] <ohsix> Glowball: from the front page "Get ubuntu", "Download and install", "Alternative downloads"
[19:51] <cntrational> I've tried editing xorg.conf, but I'm not sure what I need to do to set the resolution
[19:51] <escott> akashm1990, a reinstall would reinstall grub, but i never did anything special to get win 7 to boot
[19:51] <jrib> Froq: follow the server instructions there (do-release-upgrade)
[19:51] <rgr> akashm1990: no. Not with minimal effort. depends on HOW your current partitions are set up. You MUST do your homework. Dont listen to the "its easy" advice.
[19:51] <supton> erratic unresponsive UI after upgrade.  after upgrade to natty (running beta packages from early this week), mouse cursor moves fine, no apparent load, but occasional (often enough) can't click anything: mouse/keyboard fail do do anything (unity 3d on intel graphics on Dell Inspiron 15).
[19:51] <Glowball> ohsix: I got there already, thanks to IdleOne. Thanks anyway for your effort!
[19:51] <carandraug> cntrational, rgr, oh! I thought they were going to change now on 11.04. Can you say I haven't upgraded yet? :p
[19:52] <charas> can anyone tell why "Ctrl + Alt + Numpad 7" shortcut might not work on my system?
[19:52] <escott> akashm1990, if you had a lot of trouble in the past you might have trouble with a reinstall
[19:52] <alecbenzer> is there a way to have the unity side bar come up instantly when I move my mouse to the right of the screen (ie not having the 1-2 second delay)
[19:52] <alecbenzer> left*
[19:52] <ohsix> rgr: the xorg.conf is not there unless you have a proprietary driver (practically speaking, just nvidia) or a custom configuration, on a default install there is no xorg.conf and it's all hot detected
[19:52] <rgr> carandraug: so why tell someone its not used anymore? That could lead to them hosing their systems. Just saying like ... ;)
[19:52] <akashm1990> escott, rgr The 1st time I installed Ubuntu it was automatic.
[19:52] <jrib> charas: what do you expect it to do?
[19:52] <carandraug> cntrational, can you look into /etc/X11/xorg.conf then?
[19:52] <akashm1990> should I expect any difference this time since grub is already installed?
[19:52] <ohsix> carandraug: you'd have to create it, but X will still read it
[19:53] <rgr> akashm1990: it might be. But be careful. Tjhere are oodles of issues with many many people. its not me making things up.
[19:53] <charas> jrib: It should place my window at top left corner of screen but it's not working. I disabled all the compiz shortcuts so not to override.
[19:53] <phibxr> akashm1990, i've never had any trouble with grub not recognizing an installed operating system.
[19:53] <cntrational> carandraug: as ohsix said, it isn't there
[19:53] <carandraug> rgr, I really thought they had it changed on this new version. Sorry
[19:53] <destin> hi!
[19:53] <jrib> charas: oh, is that some unity shortcut?
[19:53] <rgr> phibxr: thats nice but its no help to the hundreds who do. Its worth being careful - thats all I am saying.
[19:53] <destin> hi!
[19:53] <charas> jrib: Yes, shortcut for placing windows
[19:53] <escott> akashm1990, i don't see any reason to expect anything different this time. but you can always install grub from chroot its not that bad (I've walked a half-dozen people throught it the last few days)
[19:53] <MrBean> Hi all, how much disk space do I need to upgrade fom 10.10 to 11.04? with 3GB I couldn't.
[19:53] <charas> in Unity
[19:53] <jrib> charas: ah, no idea then
[19:53] <schnuffle> !anyone | desti
[19:54] <charas> thanks anyway, man
[19:54] <rgr> at the very least have a rescue image/cd/stick ready ;)
[19:54] <akashm1990> rgr, ohk..  Then, if I use the same Ubuntu 10.04 install I had used earlier, it wouldnt cause any issues because grub already exists?
[19:54] <CHOWNed> ya go back to 10.10.....11.04 is a headache
[19:54] <carandraug> cntrational, then run sudo Xorg --configure
[19:54] <rgr> should be fine. but even upgrades of grub have hosed systems.
[19:54] <ohsix> MrBean: you need room to fetch all the new versionso f packages you have installed already and then some, so if a fresh install had less than half the disk left; upgrades might not be feasible
[19:54] <escott> akashm1990, it will just overwrite the existing mbr during the install
[19:54] <escott> akashm1990, just don't do it the hour before you need your computer for XYA
[19:55] <rgr> carandraug: you told him to back up first I hope?
[19:55] <ohsix> MrBean: you can arrange for your package cache for the upgrade to be put somewhere with more storage, though; increasing the disk size is the best idea
[19:55] <carandraug> rgr, he doesn't have a Xorg.conf file to backup
[19:55] <rgr> escott: +1
[19:55] <destin> does enyone know why i can not move my windows when i click at the bar at the top and drag?
[19:55] <rgr> what card?
[19:55] <akashm1990> ok.. I'll try downloading 11.04, else just reinstall 10.04..  thanks
[19:55] <Glowball> CHOWNed: You know you can just log into classic GNOME desktop on 11.01, right?
[19:55] <Glowball> Oh, he's off...
[19:55] <ohsix> rgr: don't conflate your experience with "grub" "updating" hosing systems, people upgrading and doing things hose systems, if grub or the upgrade process actually did it, it is a bug, and i hope you reported it
[19:55] <rgr> best util I have used is nvidia-settings but recently discovered sgfxi.
[19:55] <cntrational> carandraug: already tried that, it fails with the error "Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices"
[19:56] <osse> Each time a new Ubuntu version comes out I see a lot about upgrading. But I never manage to find out if there will be any significant difference between a fresh install and an upgraded installation. I guess because there are none?
[19:56] <MrBean> ok thank you, I'll download the iso and reburn it. bye.
[19:56] <[thor]> Glowball: "Classic" != "10.10"
[19:56] <Froq> how can i check to see if my wireless card has N capabilities via terminal?
[19:56] <ohsix> rgr: don't tell people to use sgfxi, other people will have to undo the damage it does to fix their problems
[19:56] <rgr> osse: why guess that?
[19:56] <saju_m> i tried to install cinelerra, but getting error, http://dpaste.com/537555/
[19:56] <carandraug> cntrational, are you using only 1 monitor?
[19:56] <jrib> osse: there shouldn't be any significant difference, yes
[19:56] <cntrational> carandraug: yes
[19:56] <Glowball> [thor]: But I can't see another reason not to want 11.04, except for Unity
[19:56] <rgr> There are loads of issues with upgrading that simply dont occur with a fresh install for obvious reasons.
[19:57] <ohsix> Froq: iw phy phy0 info
[19:57] <Froq> ohsix: thanks
[19:57] <osse> rgr: Maybe a "no news is good news" kind of thing :P
[19:57] <rgr> including but not limited to other tweaks you might have applied on the older version that can not be migrated by the update utility. Anyone who says they are the same thing is misleading you.
[19:57] <ohsix> osse: there often are none, yes; but with upgrades special attention needs to be made if you use ppa's or mangled some of the distro files (which you can do unknowingly if you followed bad advice/workarounds in the past)
[19:58] <[thor]> Glowball: lack of video card compatibility is the one i am running into now; even in Classic mode, my 3D acceleration is toast ( yes, i have checked for drivers )
[19:58] <haygus> Hi
[19:58] <arkanabar> what gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty
[19:58] <haygus> where ca n i found the new version md5 file ?
[19:58] <[thor]> a distro upgrade is supposed to improve functionality, not break it.
[19:58] <AlecTaylor> I've just installed 11.04 in a virtual machine, and I can't get the resolution right. I need 1680x1050 (wide-screen). I've tried changing the resolution and installing VMware Tools to no avail. Any ideas?
[19:58] <ohsix> rgr: the point of an upgrade is for them to be the same thing in the end, so what you just said is antithetical to the entire process
[19:58] <rgr> [thor]: I guess you never upgraded Ubuntu much then ;)
[19:59] <ohsix> [thor]: and "upgrade" is a strictly utilitarian thing that changes the packages to new versions, it says nothing about functionality
[19:59] <[thor]> rgr: since 8.04
[19:59] <jrib> osse: if you take a fresh 10.10 install and upgrade it should be the same as an 11.04 install.  Obviously, if you make changes to 10.10 and upgrade those changes affect your upgrade result vs a fresh 11.04 install...
[19:59] <tmaster> MSI ATI 5770 HAWK, Core i5 750, 4GB DDR3,Intel DP55WB -- any potential driver issues with Ubuntu?
[19:59] <logophobia> hi, are there any special instructions/tricks for installing on an UEFI based PC? I installed ubuntu but I never get the boot menu
[19:59] <saju_m> i trying to install cinelerra, but getting error, http://dpaste.com/537555/
[19:59] <rgr> but the upgrade will never be as clean as the fresh install. And there should be zero reason to install 10.10 amd then dirextly update.
[20:00] <ohsix> the important distinction is the things that you can do to break things for an upgrade, which happen; that you sidestep entirely doing a new install
[20:00] <[thor]> ohsix: it has succeeded in driving me away from the project.
[20:00] <Glowball> [thor]: Weird. I never had that kind of problems. There is one bug that is keeping me from 11.04 for now, though, and that is the higher power usage in new kernels.
[20:00] <ohsix> rgr: quantify "clean"
[20:00] <ohsix> [thor]: bummer
[20:00] <cooladmin> I installed new Ubuntu 4.14 since long time I left ubuntu for RHEL & Fedora...really is amazing product now and I want to stick with it
[20:00] <saju_m> please check this http://dpaste.com/537555/
[20:00] <RealOpty> does virtualbox only emulate a 32bit cpu??????????
[20:00] <haygus> i have this error before the instal
[20:00] <cooladmin> Sorry 10.14
[20:00] <haygus> unexepected_exit_with_statut_0x0009
[20:00] <carandraug> cntrational, I googled a bit and some people say you need to stop X before running that. That means you'd have to go to a tty, and stop the GUI for some time
[20:00] <rgr> you check which repo cinelerra should be in and added it to your sources.list?
[20:00] <haygus> on black screen,
[20:01] <haygus> i try check disk, same thing..
[20:01] <ohsix> Glowball: that higher power usage amounts to about 3 minutes here, the part that bugs me is the extra 1deg or so it entails on the system/hd temps
[20:01] <rgr> Did you use synaptic or apt-cache search to verify the install candidate name?
[20:01] <rach0> tmaster, no there should not be any serious problems with drivers. I suspect everything will work out of the box
[20:01] <[thor]> cooladmin: neither of those are valid release numbers..
[20:01] <Froq> So I downloaded the most recent linux kernel and it is taking my computer 10+ minutes to unpack the dang thing...
[20:01] <berefeira> updated, no wobbly windows, is this correct?
[20:01] <osse> Thanks, guys. I'll try to think of stuff I might have done. In 11.04 the default media player has changes. Does this mean that Banshee won't get installed because it notices that I have Rhythmbox set as the default player?
[20:01] <ohsix> Froq: theres a ton of files in it :] like tons
[20:01] <cntrational> carandraug: I did do that; alt-ctrl-F2, sudo stop service gdm
[20:01] <tmaster> rach0: thanks, I had heard there are some issues with ATI cards, thats why I was worried
[20:01] <rgr> Froq: may I ask why? You had to ask where to get it. Did you install the source via synaptic?
[20:01] <ohsix> Froq: not a million but over 50k
[20:01] <Froq> ohsix: must be... but it is only 75MB.... that isn't very big. lol... but I guess it is too.
[20:01] <jrib> osse: you'll likely have both installed
[20:02] <ohsix> rgr: it is extracted and prepared if apt-get source is used
[20:02] <Froq> rgr: I went to the ubuntu repos and got it from there.
[20:02] <rach0> tmaster, i have a HD 5500 and it works fine, just dont install the binary drivers
[20:02] <carandraug> cntrational, ok. Could you pastebin the X log then?
[20:02] <arkanabar> what gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty
[20:02] <GuyCanada> is there any reason that nvidia would see an attached monitor but system>monitors would not? im trying to hit function-F8 to display my screen on a tv. i dont want to set up miltiple monitors through nvidia i just want to be able to HDMI out when watching tv through my computer can anyone helo?
[20:02] <GuyCanada> help?*
[20:02] <rgr> so you installed it via aptitude or apt or synaptic or what?
[20:02] <Froq> rgr: I have been playing around with learning C++ and making in grounds into it, and figured I would love to look @ the structure of teh linux C kernel
[20:02] <rgr> What source is it you are extracting?
[20:02] <saege> is there a way to install gnome3 without breaking unity?
[20:02] <tmaster> rach0: Do I have to do anything special during installation to not install them?
[20:02] <ohsix> osse: no banshee will get installed as it's a recommend from ubuntu-desktop; but you can remove it, or use rhythmbox, it's really no actual distinction, just that it's a recommended package now
[20:02] <Glowball> ohsix: Well, I never tested it myself on my own hardware, but I read people getting as much as 30% less battery life
[20:02] <Froq> rgr: I went to the ubuntu repos via web browswer
[20:02] <eigba> arkanabar, I just use the mouse software that always came with ubuntu/gnome its still there and works
[20:03] <rgr> Froq: there are some nice tools on the web to help you navigate the source code online.
[20:03] <osse> Froq, extracted it'll be over 400 MB I think. Text files are usually very compressable. Also, that it's a bunch of small files instead of a few larger ones contributes.
[20:03] <carandraug> cntrational, pastebin the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:03] <rgr> lol..
[20:03] <ohsix> Glowball: i'd take that with a grain of salt, but i've also seen people reporting 2 separate issues, one of which is their processor being in turbo mode when it shouldn't be; that will account for a lot, since theres no turbo on my cpu it accounts for no additional use here
[20:03] <rach0> tmaster, no just don't get them after installation unless you really need them (and i don't suspect you will)
[20:03] <arkanabar> eigba, ty, but I'm not running gnome.  I'm running lxde.  what is gnome's mouse config applet?  I'm willing to give it a try, if it's still included in natty....
[20:03] <Froq> rgr: so what tools are you making mention of?  I am very interested
[20:03] <darkham> hi, in 10.10 i find temp youtube files in chromium in /tmp dir
[20:03] <osse> jrib, ohsix: thanks.
[20:03] <ohsix> Froq: he asked how to get the source code, not how to browse it
[20:04] <darkham> now in /home/.cache/chromium/default
[20:04] <ohsix> Froq: theres the upstream kernels git browser and launchpads bzr browser for it's local kernel branches
[20:04] <darkham> i dont't find anything
[20:04] <tmaster> rach0: Ok.. So I dont need them for games I hope
[20:04] <Froq> ohsix: o man, you are so smart, talking over my head! :)
[20:04] <BlouBlou> darkham: that may be because they updated config
[20:04] <cntrational> carandraug: http://pastebin.com/YbK35Uy1
[20:04] <darkham> where i can find the video temp file, if you can help me
[20:04] <rgr> Froq: lxr for a start. but there are many. http://www.google.de/search?q=browse+linux+source+code+online
[20:04] <ohsix> Froq: first message was meant for rgr
[20:04] <tkngch> \quit
[20:05] <rgr> but note that the linux kernel is C and in no way prepares you for complex C++
[20:05] <ohsix> rgr: you're getting on peoples last nerve with giving people google links
[20:05] <ohsix> !google | rgr
[20:05] <rgr> sigh
[20:05] <ohsix> rgr: if you have a link in those google results that you intend to give to a person, give them the link
[20:05] <avinash> Hey guys , i can see my wireless is connected .. get 'connected' message .. but can't browse any sites .. gets stuck in resolving proxy .. how to change proxy .. any help pls
[20:05] <rgr> but lxr is nice for a start. Also a editor which can use etags is good
[20:05] <ohsix> rgr: if you have a link in those google results that you intend to give to a person, give them the link
[20:05] <Froq> rgr: Good to know, I just wanted to look @ some large scale stuff, and I didn't realize teh number of files associated with a kernel! WOW
[20:06] <rgr> the linux kernel makefile  includes a tags target
[20:06] <saju_m> i trying to install cinelerra, but getting error, http://dpaste.com/537555/
[20:06] <BlouBlou> darkham: if you want to download a video, try with firefox, 'video downloadhelper'
[20:06] <ohsix> Froq: if that's all you wanted, you might be interested in http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=tree
[20:07] <rgr> Froq: well, enjoy it ;) Also note that the C in the kernel is about the best you will find. very "clean".
[20:07] <Froq> ohsix: yeah!  that is what i wnated! could have had it 30 minutes ago if I could just better articulate my desires, huh?  thanks
[20:07] <ohsix> Froq: that's linus' kernel tree; and doesn't include ubuntu patches (they're in their own tree) but if you're not interested in building it or anything, it should suffice
[20:07] <carandraug> cntrational, well, I can't find any error there
[20:07] <schnuffle> saju_m: sure the package is called cinelerra, search for it
[20:07] <ohsix> rgr: #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:07] <darkham> BlouBlou, yes but i'm curious to know where it's downloaded a temp file
[20:07] <carandraug> cntrational, what resolution should it be?
[20:07] <ohsix> Froq: well it's a very general question, i assumed it was ubuntu related and you wanted to rebuild it or something :] no harm no foul
[20:08] <BlouBlou> darkham: usually is or in .chronium/cache or something like that, or in /tmp
[20:08] <Froq> ohsix: right on!
[20:08] <cntrational> carandraug: 1368x768, a 16:9 resolution
[20:08] <darkham> BlouBlou, i'm asking, because i look in both, and nothing
[20:09] <ohsix> lame, the firefox 4 update page no longer has a link to the bugs fixed in that release
[20:09] <BlouBlou> darkham: Then I have no idea, most probably they changed temporal folder
[20:10] <asdf_msc> stereocaulon_, did you mean you had problems with just upgrading to 11.04 or with WoW?
[20:10] <darkham> BlouBlou, thanx the same
[20:10] <BlouBlou> np
[20:10] <Stereocaulon_> asdf_msc, I meant just upgrading to 11.04
[20:10] <stravant> ohsix: Last time I had these sort of problems just uninstalling pulseaudio from the system entirely fixed them. Now that won't work anymore, is there anything special I would have to do to make it work?
[20:10] <Stereocaulon_> asdf_msc, I don't play WoW
[20:10] <_ListerWork> hi, how does one get to change display output to use hdmi cable
[20:10] <_ListerWork> ?
[20:10] <carandraug> cntrational, I have to go now. But take a look at this, it might be of help https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution#Adding%20undetected%20resolutions
[20:11] <ohsix> stravant: it didn't "fix" them, it sidestepped the real problem
[20:11] <Bobguts> Hello
[20:11] <carandraug> cntrational, and good luck fixing it
[20:11] <stravant> ohsix: I know, but by fixed I mean that it let me hear sound
[20:11] <Sledge> stil can't figure out how to add stuff
[20:11] <ohsix> stravant: theres nothing special you should have to do; you have software running that is muting things, if its g-v-c and it's doing it without you clicking on mute, find out what it's fighting with
[20:11] <stravant> ohsix: Since there doesn't seem to _be_ any solution
[20:11] <beta____> A question: does anyone know how to install emerald in 11.04...
[20:11] <beta____> ?
[20:12] <beta____> Tried the emeraldfix.txt, but it keeps given me errors..
[20:12] <destin> why can i not drag my windows form the top bar?
[20:12] <ohsix> stravant: i gave you what i thought was all the information that was needed to troubleshoot the problem
[20:12] <rooly> does anyone know where the patch for the rlt8192se that keeps it from making the system lock up is?
[20:12] <schnuffle> beta____:  check http://www.webupd8.org/2009/03/ubuntu-install-themes-emerald-compiz.html
[20:12] <rooly> because there's been a regression since 10.10
[20:12] <ohsix> beta____: why do you need emerald? support for transparent themes has been promoted to the other window decorators and you don't need to theme it separately now
[20:13] <darkham> how can i search all unconditioned video files in natty?
[20:13] <ohsix> rooly: do you know for a fact that such a patch exists?
[20:13] <beta____> @schnuffle: that's not the problem.. know how to install...
[20:13] <ohsix> rooly: you should try the module backports and see if it still freezes, but if it doesn't, still file a bug
[20:13] <beta____> but the decoration just doesnt show
[20:13] <rooly> ohsix, yes, i used it for 4 months prior to 10.10 (which brought it in to the kernel)
[20:14] <ohsix> rooly: how come you didn't lobby to get it included?
[20:14] <stravant> ohsix: I did look into it more. It is indeed not gnome volume control, playing sound from _any_ program causes the sound to become muted until I unmute it in gnome volume control. The it doesn't actually instantly mute if there isn't any program playing sound, it only goes to being muted one a program tries to play sound. I would suspect it's some ugly internal thing?
[20:14] <ohsix> rooly: if it was known it should have been included
[20:14] <beta____> @ohsix; yes, but there are still a lot of nice themes that are build on emerald..
[20:14] <beta____> rather than on gtk
[20:14] <rooly> ohsix, because i didn't realize that 11.04 would regress on the rtl8192se wireless driver
[20:14] <ohsix> stravant: ah, it is an sblive isn't it
[20:14] <teja2011> hello..all i am using 11.04...but i was having a problem in new look of ubuntu i tried to enable desktop cube in compiz den something gone wrong dats it i can see any panels and shortcuts...help me
[20:15] <ohsix> rooly: it's not a regression if you needed a patch before ... it's just the same thing?
[20:15] <rooly> ohsix, 10.10 fixed the problem
[20:15] <ezro> hey
[20:15] <rooly> the problem was documented in 10.04 and patched for 10.10
[20:15] <ezro> Im just wondering for linux
[20:15] <ezro> I just installed linux
[20:15] <ohsix> rooly: ok if it's broke again in 11.04, then the same patch probably won't work anyways; you should try the backports to see if it's fixed already, and file a bug
[20:15] <stirfoo> any emacs user find C-M-a (left Alt not right) will not produce an event, even when using describe-key?
[20:15] <asdf_msc> anyone else get fatal exception errors on opening WoW after upgrading to 11.04?
[20:16] <rooly> ohsix, backparts are installed
[20:16] <ezro> what should I do next?
[20:16] <rooly> *backports
[20:16] <DSASD> hi
[20:16] <stravant> ohsix: What? I don't have any sound card, it's the the integrated sound on the motherboard.
[20:16] <ohsix> stravant: so some cards treat 0 on the volume as mute, instead of having a separate switch
[20:16] <ohsix> stravant: better post the output to aplay -L and pacmd ls again to a pastebin then
[20:16] <beta____> uhmm... so no solution yet?
[20:17] <LinuxHack3r> Just installed 11.04 64bit, fresh, and first boot I tried to install the nvidia drivers from the nvidia site. Now I am stuck without X, and cannot seemingly generate a correct xorg.conf (I believe due to the fact I had to start using a vga monitor with a DVI adapter. I started having issues in 10.10 with this monitor, and no issues in 10.10 with a DVI monitor.) I've tried nvidia-xorgconf, still "no screens found". I need to generate
[20:17] <ic4l> helloo guys... i want to ask wich application is the best for IRC ??
[20:17] <ikonia> ic4l: that's personal choice, what's the best dinner to eat ? get it ?
[20:17] <ohsix> beta____: no solution to install emerald, perhaps you should state why you wish to do that, as emeralds functionality has been in the other window decorators for a long time
[20:17] <ezro> :)
[20:17] <gmachine_24> ic4I: is that a joke
[20:17] <ezro> anybody here korea?
[20:18] <gmachine_24> n
[20:18] <ezro> llllllllllll
[20:18] <theclaw> after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04, the gtk+-themes I set in appearance settings don't work anymore. everythings in the default theme
[20:18] <quellhorst> When trying to make vm i see: "warning: kvm is not available. this may mean the kvm package is not installed, or the kvm kernel modules are not loaded. your virtual machines may perform poorly."
[20:18] <theclaw> any idea?
[20:18] <MadRobot> Hi all
[20:18] <asdf_msc> ic4l, i googled the same thing earlier and most seem to just use xchat
[20:18] <IdleOne> !korea | ezro
[20:18] <quellhorst> i have the kvm kernel module loaded.
[20:18] <LinuxHack3r> could anyone assist me in generating an xorg.conf with my nvidia?
[20:18] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: what version of the driver did you try to install? there was an xserver abi change and i don't know if any of the nvidia drivers made it
[20:18] <ic4l> just tell me... what is ur test.... i want to try some irc depend on ur experience
[20:18] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: the latest 270*.*.*
[20:18] <gmachine_24> I use xchat or chatzilla
[20:18] <ezro> I have some problem
[20:18] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: generating an xorg.conf isn't going to help if this is your situation
[20:18] <beta____> @ohsix: yeah, I know there are a lot that are better, but they just don't look that nice..
[20:19] <rooly> hmm
[20:19] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: So can I remove the nvidia driver and try something else in gui?
[20:19] <rooly> i see a spot to test it
[20:19] <rooly> i might hop offline for a moment
[20:19] <MadRobot> The new Natty interface seems pretty cool! I wonder if there are any tutorials for how I can find my way through it more easily..?
[20:19] <beta____> would it be an good choise to be back on ubuntu 10.10? Or some other distro based on ubuntu?
[20:19] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: yes, or use nouveau if you can, it should suffice for the desktop shinyness
[20:19] <ic4l> gmachine_24 : i use xchat but didn't satisfy my....
[20:19] <arkanabar> what gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty
[20:19] <cntrational> so
[20:19] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: Until nvidia drivers are updated?
[20:19] <gmachine_24> yeah I'm not a big xchat fan
[20:20] <ohsix> arkanabar: what's l_x_input?
[20:20] <tensorpudding> MadRobot: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/what
[20:20] <ohsix> arkanabar: xinput can still set input device properties
[20:20] <ic4l> so which one u prefer to use?? gmachine_24
[20:20] <MadRobot> beta____, I can understand why you might wanna do that. :\
[20:20] <gmachine_24> ic4l: I go for the easy . . . chatzilla
[20:20] <arkanabar> ohsix, lxinput is lxde native app for setting mouse accel & keyboard repeat.
[20:20] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: what via apt-get for the nouveau
[20:21] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: i think 270 is already ready for the new abi; can you post the contents of /var/log/Xorg.0.log and log.old, and Xorg.1.log?
[20:21] <beta____> Because I like gnome2, emerald and custimize a lot with ubuntu... '(
[20:21] <ohsix> arkanabar: oh, you'll have to figure out why it broke with them then, as far as i know nothing important changed with the proper way to set these things
[20:21] <gmachine_24> I only try xchat when it's a default install . . . and then I'm reminded why I don't like it
[20:21] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: just uninstalled it. If I can get back in a gui I'll be more able to do things..
[20:21] <tensorpudding> MadRobot: http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/ rather
[20:21] <stravant> ohsix: http://pastebin.com/mRdwEj8K , http://pastebin.com/mRdwEj8K
[20:22] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: the log will only be useful from the broken runs of xorg
[20:22] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: well how can I do this via cli?
[20:22] <MadRobot> tensorpudding, how do I add more workspaces?
[20:22] <avinash> Hey friends, i have ubuntu 10.10 .. the wireless is connected   , but no internet .. any help pls ..
[20:22] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: copy them somewhere they wont be overwritten
[20:23] <phibxr> Has anyone been able to change the mouse pointer in the Appearance-pane? No matter what I select, it stays as the default pointer.
[20:23] <tensorpudding> MadRobot: you need to configure compiz
[20:23] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: Oh duh:( So....which files exactly?
[20:23] <beta____> @avinash, do you have a cable next to you?
[20:23] <celso> hi
[20:23] <MrMist1> I'm desperate.. Need to sort out how to set a "spin down" parameter with hdparm.. I can't do it in Natty..
[20:23] <avinash> beta____, yes .. i have and i tried plugging in .. it also connects but no internet .. ( ip comes , but can't browse any sites )
[20:23] <Froq> so i downloaded a stupid dock program to make my ubuntu look "nifty" but now I want to scratch it, however, I don't know the name of it. What can I do?
[20:24] <beta____> hmm.. do you have dual boot? (Windows - Ubuntu)
[20:24] <gmachine_24> Froq: right click on the 'stupid dock program' and it should say
[20:24] <stravant> ohsix: Another little point which may be useful. If I play a youtube vid for example, if I pause it, and then try to unmute using gvc, I have to click about 30 times before it will finally stay unmuted, as though there's some buffer it's going through and it takes 30 clicks to get through it.
[20:24] <tensorpudding> MadRobot: install the Compiz Config Settings Manager, and check out the General Options -> Desktop Size
[20:24] <MrMist1> Froq: ps -ef | grep py ?
[20:24] <Kevin147> Since the 11.04 upgrade, my desktop lags on minecraft. Why is it doing this?
[20:24] <avinash> beta____, yes .. no its only ubuntu 10.10
[20:24] <ohsix> stravant: theres an existing bug regarding some auto mute & independent output thing that sound chip does
[20:24] <LinuxHack3r> ohsix: Just copied /var/log/*, will that cover everything?
[20:24] <avinash> beta____, no issue in hardware coz the same lappy works fine in office .. have problem in home only
[20:25] <gmachine_24> but if it's not stupid, I make no promises
[20:25] <ohsix> LinuxHack3r: and lots more, eugh
[20:25] <beta____> hmm... no other device connected to the router?
[20:25] <ohsix> MrMist1: it's still done with /etc/hdparm.conf
[20:25] <Froq> MrMist1: what does that ouput tell me?
[20:25] <avinash> i have one more laptop to same router ..
[20:25] <stravant> ohsix: Could you point me to where the bug is listed?
[20:25] <avinash> which i am using for typing here
[20:25] <beta____> and that works?
[20:25] <beta____> oooh oke :P
[20:25] <avinash> yes this works ..
[20:25] <Froq> MrMist1: none of those are the name.
[20:25] <ohsix> stravant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/609173 don't try the deb though, and there are probably other bugs
[20:25] <MrMist1> ohsix: It doesn't seem to be read during boot.. My hd doesn't spin down
[20:25] <gmachine_24> Froq: your cock program should also be listed under "accessories"
[20:26] <viper474> How do I identify with services so I can change channel?
[20:26] <darkham> how can i search all the files of the same type?
[20:26] <nuke_> holo
[20:26] <beta____> hmm.. tried ifconfig to see you ip settings?
[20:26] <gmachine_24> sorry, dock
[20:26] <bastidrazor> !register | viper474
[20:26] <gmachine_24> wow. bad typo.
[20:26] <ohsix> MrMist1: oh it's definitely read, every time there is a power event; your settings probably don't allow the drive to spin down
[20:26] <MrMist1> Froq: How about just searching through the processes using "ps -ef | less" ?
[20:26] <Froq> gmachine_24: I was curious to what you were making mention of cock for.  THANKS
[20:26] <schnuffle> darkham: mlocate can do it
[20:26] <ohsix> MrMist1: post the output of sudo hdparm -I /dev/sda to a pastebin
[20:26] <gmachine_24> haha yeah
[20:26] <avinash> yes .. gives eth1 (192.168.2.7) , lo (127.0.0.1)
[20:26] <nuke_> yeah!!
[20:26] <MrMist1> ohsix: Sure does... If I use hdparm -S 4, it spins down in 20 seconds time
[20:26] <mongy> what does [sdb] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 mean.  Its my usb stick, when I plug it in, dmesg returns that.
[20:27] <gmachine_24> Froq: seriously, look under accessories. it should be there.
[20:27] <ohsix> MrMist1: there are two other power settings that keep the drive awake, setting the sleep time isn't always going to do it by itself
[20:27] <avinash> beta____, so it gets the ip after connecting to wireless.
[20:27] <beta____> hm.. maybe dns not working, tried to access the router from your (not working) ubuntu box?
[20:27] <Froq> gmachine_24: it is...
[20:27] <avinash> beta____, yeah .. ping 192.168.2.1 works .. thats my router ..
[20:27] <gmachine_24> Froq: :)
[20:27] <Froq> gmachine_24: avant window manager
[20:28] <ohsix> stravant: you should probably try contacting diwic, or at least commenting on that bug
[20:28] <MrMist1> ohsix: So hdparm -S 5 isn't the same as spindown_time = 5?
[20:28] <gmachine_24> Froq: can you just remove it now from the command line or via synaptic?
[20:28] <argon> i got compiz lag on ubuntu 11.04 (nvidia) can someone help me?
[20:28] <MrMist1> ohsix: I thought they were supposed to be equivalent
[20:28] <stravant> ohsix: Thanks for the help, maybe that'll get me somewhere
[20:28] <Froq> gmachine_24: I just performed "apt-get remove avant-window-nagivator
[20:28] <Visitor-integer> problem with webpage: cannot display webpage with css @ 127.0.0.1 ... my friend helped me "chmod" it before, but he is unavailable. can someone please help?
[20:28] <gmachine_24> Froq: of course you have to kill it first
[20:28] <Froq> will that remove all teh dependences too?
[20:29] <schnuffle> avinash: so your dns isn't set correctly, you can open /etc/resolv.conf and add: nameserver <ip of your router>
[20:29] <ohsix> stravant: pulse is just following what the driver is doing, you could probably get an audience with the interested parties (including diwic and themuso) in #pulseaudio, be sure to reference the bug so you don't have to explain it again
[20:29] <LjL> Froq: no. use "sudo apt-get autoremove" to remove unneeded dependencies
[20:29] <rgr> Froq: depends if they are used elsewhere
[20:29] <j0nr> hello, I have just upgraded to natty. I have no wireless. Is this the best place to ask for help?
[20:29] <avinash> schnuffle, i ll try this right away
[20:29] <beta____> @avinash try to search for an ip of google, anyone knows it?..
[20:29] <arrrghhh> hey all, i have an ubuntu server and an ubuntu client communicating over NFS.  I noticed REALLY slow transfer speeds, like 500k/s.  That's KB not kb... When connected via gigabit, I get 20MB/s (again, not mbps).  Is that expected over wifi?  I don't remember it being this slow.
[20:29] <ohsix> j0nr: atheros broadcom or intel?
[20:29] <rooly> well that was odd...
[20:29] <rooly> totally wasn't the bug i was looking for
[20:29] <j0nr> ohsix: broadcom
[20:29] <rgr> arrrghhh: what did you change?
[20:30]  * rooly isn't sure how to prove its the wifi driver
[20:30] <mikebot> Has there been problems with left-clicking in 11.04? (I'm having this problem)
[20:30] <ohsix> j0nr: a bcm43xx device? you probably need firmware installed
[20:30] <j0nr> ohsix: oh hang on: 02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8192E Wireless LAN Controller (rev 01)
[20:30] <logi01> hi can some help me. I just installed natty and everything went fine. But when i use the new kernel (2.6.38) my system freeze short after login. I have to use the old kernel (2.6.35) to use my system?
[20:30] <rgr> mikebot: yes. Multiple reports of mice being broken.
[20:30] <arrrghhh> rgr, nothing to my knowledge.  i mean there's been some updates, but nothing earth shattering.  client is on 11.04 and server is 10.04
[20:30] <j0nr> ohsix: is that broadcom?
[20:30] <ohsix> rgr: if people are asking they generally don't know what they've changed, or they would have undone it then redone it to confirm their suspicions
[20:30] <ohsix> j0nr: ah nope, realtek
[20:30] <rgr> no its realtek
[20:30] <vantage> Hi all, I've got a couple daru2 laptops from system76 and since 11.04, whenever the laptop tries to start the screen saver the brightness bounces down and up and the machine locks up.  Any idea what might be causing this?
[20:31] <j0nr> ah (my other laptop is broadcom)
[20:31] <jahrends> Hello
[20:31] <ohsix> j0nr: lots of people have been having problems with those, all i can suggest is trying the module backports and filing a bug
[20:31] <mikebot> rgr: Is there some place I can go to find updates about it?
[20:31] <avinash> beta____, i think i know this .. 209.85.229.99  .. ping this works ..
[20:31] <jahrends> Does anyone here have experience with running an ircd?
[20:31] <j0nr> ohsix: how do i 'try the module backports'?
[20:31] <rgr> vantage: yes. your video is hosed. try resetting back to vesa only driver.
[20:31] <beta____> hm.. so this works?
[20:31] <arrrghhh> rgr, i guess that changed, the client used to be 10.10, now it's 11.04.  i've noticed slow xfer speeds in Windows as well, but that's over a different protocol (samba)
[20:32] <avinash> beta____, yeah getting response
[20:32] <ohsix> mikebot: where are you having problems clicking? nobody but me has reported a problem like that with regard to input, and that was with touchpads, and i got it fixed ;]
[20:32] <vantage> rgr: permanently?  Temporarily? Or is it a driver or kernel issue?
[20:32] <beta____> than I think dns problem. No response when pinging google.com?
[20:32] <rgr> nfs can be a real dog if reverse dns isnt configrued properly. I dont have the details at hand. I just recall having similar issues.
[20:32] <ohsix> j0nr: install linux-backports-modules-net-<version>-generic, reboot
[20:32] <rgr> arrrghhh: 11
[20:32] <rgr> ^^ rather
[20:32] <mikebot> ohsix: Everything; in Mines (game), options on Transmission, closing tabs in Chrome... It's not with a mouse, it's with my touchpad.
[20:32] <arrrghhh> rgr, i'm mounting via IP.  what does DNS have to do with it.
[20:33] <avinash> beta____, yeah pinging google.com isn't working ...
[20:33] <Saamm> can someone confirm this --> all ratings in software center over 100 are displayed as zero. Check out chromium, firefox and gimp
[20:33] <luisgmarine> lg158997
[20:33] <avinash> also http://209.85.229.99/ in browser doesn't work ..
[20:33] <ohsix> mikebot: ok, the way sensitivity was measured changed a bit upstream
[20:33] <rgr> then its probably not. I didnt know that. But then it mioght. The whole thing is hairy. Just mentioed it to give you some more to go on.
[20:33] <mikebot> ohsix: How did you fix yours? (Also, do you have a lenovo?)
[20:33] <freeburn> i upgraded to natty today...
[20:33] <arrrghhh> rgr, ok thx...
[20:34] <ohsix> mikebot: unfortunately the only way i know to set the sensitivity again is with xinput set-prop, because there is no ui for the changed settings
[20:34] <freeburn> but unity is behaving badly
[20:34] <ohsix> rgr: then practically speaking you have said nothing
[20:34] <freeburn> very unstable
[20:34] <ohsix> rgr: this is a help channel
[20:34] <illmortal> uhm...
[20:34] <rgr> yes, it does.
[20:34] <illmortal> what exactly is up with 11.04?
[20:34] <luisgmarine> Hello guys.  I have a macbook pro 5,3 that I'm trying to install 11.04 on.  I've read the guide but my system hangs when I select to "Check CD for defects" or install.  I've checked the md5sums of the downloaded .iso file and everything matches ..
[20:34] <ohsix> illmortal: if you have a question or problem, be specific
[20:34] <MrMist1> ohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601444/
[20:34] <rgr> lol. The new definition of optimism!
[20:35] <argon> hello,draging windows in ubuntu  11.04 is very laggy. I'm using the nvidia drivers.. is this an knowen problem?
[20:35] <illmortal> just updated.. I can't even get Ubuntu to boot up unless I use, "previous" which.. still uses 11.04 <_< lol
[20:35] <ohsix> mikebot: mine needed a patch to back out changes, it was doing 2 finger heuristic detection and sending spurious right clicks
[20:35] <Josesordo> hello all
[20:35] <freeburn> my unity crashes every now and then
[20:35] <yfk> where is there a chromium-browser-l10n package?
[20:35] <freeburn> gnome works ok
[20:35] <icqn> luisgmarine, burn the cd again
[20:35] <bp0> argon, there is definitely a performance problem with nvidia drivers in 11.04
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> argon: if you disable compiz and use metacity, is it nicer?
[20:35] <Josesordo> I installed the new 11.04, and I need to install a ".run" file and I cant run it ... some help?
[20:35] <mikebot> ohsix: Uhhh...haha OK, I'm not following I guess; seems like there is no easy solution for me then
[20:35] <IdleOne> yfk: sudo apt-get install chromium-browser-l10n
[20:35] <gmachine_24> yfk: you want to install chromium?
[20:35] <ActionParsnip> !info chromium-browser-l10n
[20:35] <trijntje> How can I assign a mouse key to switch to another workspace?
[20:36] <luisgmarine> icqn: I have already 5 times.  First time was a the fastest speed, and went all the way down to the slowest speed my computer allows me and same thing ...
[20:36] <ohsix> MrMist1: the apm settings can affect how a drive chooses to spin down, the hdparm manual (man hdparm in a terminal) explains in what way
[20:36] <j0nr> ohsix: ok, giving it a go, thanks
[20:36] <yfk> IdleOne, gmachine_24, no. just wondering why the package exists...
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> yfk: make sure you have universe repo enabled
[20:36] <illmortal> also.. I can't right click my panel to remove it... 11.04 for some reason put an additional upper panel on my right screen.. and also put the app panel on the right screen and I can't move it.
[20:36] <beta____> Sorry, need to go...
[20:36] <gmachine_24> yfk: why it exists where
[20:36] <argon> actionParsnip : I'm not shure how to do this
[20:36] <Antilect> I love overclocking :D
[20:36] <Antilect> Addictive!
[20:36] <Antilect> Thrill sports xD
[20:36] <lapion> just upgraded to natty, made me Seasick.
[20:36] <logi01> Is there any way how to figure out why the new kernel freeze my system after login?
[20:36] <yfk> crap. wanted to ask why it exists. not where... sorry
[20:36] <ohsix> luisgmarine: you should probably report a bug about that
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> yfk: you can also add the chromium daily ppa and get the daily build
[20:36] <IdleOne> yfk: language support for chromium
[20:36] <beta____> try to search on Google, how to fix dns problem.. must be some forum/faq for that :)
[20:36] <illmortal> mine does the same logi.. i have to use previous installation
[20:36] <lapion> switched back to regular gnome
[20:36] <illmortal> then it loads up <_<;
[20:36] <ActionParsnip> argon: press aLT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace
[20:37] <rgr> chromium is highly recommended.
[20:37] <yfk> IdleOne, thanks. all the rest, sorry for the incoherence
[20:37] <ohsix> illmortal: the top bar in unity isn't a panel, it just looks like it
[20:37] <gmachine_24> yfk: you are asking my it is on your computer?
[20:37] <ActionParsnip> argon: instead of asking, you could have researched instead
[20:37] <Antilect> I just clocked a dead 1.66GHz to 3.0GHz and it's stable :D
[20:37] <illmortal> ick...
[20:37] <avinash> beta____, sure thanks for the help buddy
[20:37] <arkanabar> what gtk apps for adjusting mouse acceleration are available for 11.04?  lxinput stopped working after upgrade to natty
[20:37] <Antilect> Like a warmachine on caffeine.
[20:37] <luisgmarine> ohsix: :\  you think getting the LTS version might fix it/break it?
[20:37] <gmachine_24> I meant why
[20:37] <ohsix> rgr: recommended by who? recommended packages are installed by default
[20:37] <beta____> no
[20:37] <beta____> np
[20:37] <beta____> bye
[20:37] <lapion> logi01, check if your sound card works correctly by playing some music in single user mode
[20:37] <rgr> ActionParsnip: be careful. The anti google brethren are here in num,bers - even when you provide the actual searhc string which shows how to get the information.
[20:37] <ohsix> luisgmarine: i can't speak to that, but it should be reported :] then it can be fixed, you're more than welcome to try other spins of the cd to see if it's broken
[20:37] <gmachine_24> Antilect: how do you overclock
[20:37] <lapion> or maintenance mode
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> rgr: yeah its a big annoyance :(
[20:38] <ohsix> rgr: if you need to provide someone with a specific page in a google result, provide the page; even if it is the top or only result for you, it will not be for other people
[20:38] <Antilect> gmachine_24 good sense, a lot of nice fans, and solid knowledge gathered from other peoples trial and horrors :D
[20:38] <deutscher> la bussola d'oro
[20:38] <LjL> ActionParsnip: why shouldn't they have asked?
[20:38] <Josesordo> how to open a ".run" file in Ubuntu 11.04? .. please..help
[20:38] <Antilect> (and I'm not talking about fan fans, but fans)
[20:38] <luisgmarine> yeah that's what I'm thinking.  I'm going to go give the LTS a try and see what the deal is, then I'll go and report a bug.  I just want to make sure it's not something hardware related.
[20:38] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: why is firefox recommended over chromium, or for that fact any other browser?
[20:38] <rgr> really is. I gave the search string to and the link to a really good ssh tutorial and got threatened with banning.
[20:38] <icqn> luisgmarine, ok, then it does not seem to be fine, was it the same cd all the time? well try to create a bootable usb, if your system supports that?
[20:38] <ikonia> Josesordo: same as every other distro, it's just an executable, run it
[20:38] <gmachine_24> Antilect: not fan fan fans?
[20:39] <rgr> Its not. Chromium is very very good on Linux systems.
[20:39] <LjL> !ot
[20:39] <gmachine_24> Chromium rocks
[20:39] <luisgmarine> icqn: I don't have a USB stick available ... but let me see if I can find one
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> LjL: if someone gives direction then users can use that to aid research rather than _immediately_ asking for additional information
[20:39] <rgr> ohsix is also the man who claimed that xorg.conf is obsolete.
[20:39]  * arkanabar likes chromium pretty well
[20:39] <argon> actionparsnip: better performance with metacity, bu no effects and the Unity bar is gone
[20:39] <MrMist1> ohsix: Any idea? I seriously don't think this is the drive, since the -S parameter works fine..
[20:39] <ikonia> rgr: enough now - please stop it
[20:39] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: because one is supported, it's not an opinion; what rgr stated was an opinion held possibly only by himself and he should say as much
[20:39] <rgr> chromium is fast ans good keyboard UI.
[20:39] <LjL> ActionParsnip: or they can ask a quick question that has a very quick answer.
[20:39] <ohsix> rgr: it is no claim, it's for exceptions and you should never want for or have to change it, if you do, it's a bug
[20:39] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: chromium is in the repo so is equally supported as firefox...
[20:39] <Josesordo> ikonia, well in this ubuntu 11.04 not.. it run in gedit.. lol
[20:39] <rgr> running chromium on ubuntu is on topic.
[20:39] <illmortal> hmm... this new update threw my compiz/emerald off too
[20:39] <Josesordo> ikonia, I mean.. when I double click it ..
[20:40] <ikonia> ohsix: let it go please
[20:40] <logi01> lapion: what is "single user mode"? My system shortly freeze after login
[20:40] <rgr> staing its not as supported as firefox is simply wrong.
[20:40] <LjL> !ot | rgr, ohsix, please, the merits of Chromium are outside of the scope here
[20:40] <ikonia> Josesordo: run it from a terminal
[20:40] <ActionParsnip> LjL: either wayif users can be more autonomous, it helps a lot
[20:40] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: don't go off on the weeds, i meant something specific when i said supported, you took it to mean as it just being in the repos
[20:40] <ikonia> guys - enough now, please.
[20:40] <Josesordo> ikonia, ok that Im trying to do..but forgot the command.. I have the terminal open right now..
[20:40] <ikonia> Josesordo: ./filename.run
[20:40] <Antilect> gmachine_24 no seriously
[20:40] <Antilect> I don't have any fans :D
[20:40] <rgr> LjL: the subject si about installing chromium on Ubuntu. Please try and read the thread with all due respect. I am correcting his staement that chromium is not supported properly. It is not true.
[20:40] <ohsix> rgr: that isn't what i said, i'm sorry we have different definitions of supported
[20:40] <lapion> logi01, safe mode in the grub menu
[20:41] <ikonia> Josesordo: what are you trying to install ?
[20:41] <rgr> brb
[20:41] <stravant> ohsix: Yea, it's definitely that bug, plugging my headphones into the back panel (Thank god they have an unusually long lead), makes it work fine. I'll post my case to it
[20:41] <Antilect> The kind I want, but the other kind, I have in abundance D:
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: thats exactly what supported here means, it is in the official ubuntu repos, so again, why is firefox recommended and chromium not (as you say)?
[20:41] <lapion> logi01, at boot depress both the shift and the alt keys so that you get the grub menu..
[20:41] <Josesordo> ikonia, this --> ati-driver-installer-11-4-x86.x86_64.run
[20:41] <ohsix> stravant: there's apparently a mixer control available to alsa to toggle the mute logic off; and make the outputs act independently too
[20:41] <LjL> Chromium is in Universe, Firefox is in Main, for the record. Firefox is more supported than Chrome.
[20:41] <LjL> *ium.
[20:41] <ikonia> Josesordo: why are you trying to install ati drivers ? there are supported ones in the "hardware drivers" tool
[20:41] <reprapperMC> Is there a specific channel for wireless issues with Ubuntu?
[20:41] <mick_home> hi everyone, I have a really weird issue where google searches seem to be intercepted
[20:41] <illmortal> Anyone know if the new update has thrown compiz into a whacky mode?
[20:41] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: that's not what it means, but i think LjL just settled it enough for my purposes
[20:41] <LjL> reprapperMC: no
[20:41] <ActionParsnip> LjL: they are equally supported dude
[20:41] <ohsix> LjL: thanks
[20:42] <LjL> ActionParsnip: no
[20:42] <ikonia> reprapperMC: here is fine
[20:42] <mick_home> like as if my dns was cache poisoned
[20:42] <econdudeawesome> Howdy! 11.04 is giving me some issues with flash
[20:42] <LjL> ActionParsnip: stuff in Main is supported by Canonical, stuff in Universe is supported by the community.
[20:42] <econdudeawesome> is anyone else havingt his problem?
[20:42] <mongy> isnt chromium updated as chromium devs update it....
[20:42] <gmachine_24> stop bickering about chromium vs firefox or GET A ROOM
[20:42] <phibxr> when I make a custom launcher entry in alacarte and give it an icon, why does it show up as a ?-mark in the launcher while the icon is visible in the dash?
[20:42] <johndoe_> anyone problems with moving windows since 11.04 upgrade?
[20:42] <ActionParsnip> LjL: yes, and WE are the community, so we support both
[20:42] <Josesordo> ikonia, in ubuntu 10.04 .. I believe was better install the propietary drivers.. dont know, what do you think?
[20:42] <mick_home> qbert_: is flo.bellsouth short for floriida?
[20:42] <lapion> I am unable to activate bluetooth on 2 laptops..
[20:42] <siva> helo how to shift close,minimise button of a pgm window to right side?
[20:42] <siva> on ub11.04
[20:43] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: you don't set Recommends on ubuntu-desktop and upload the package though ...
[20:43] <LjL> ActionParsnip: they're nevertheless not "equally supported", sorry. but we can continue this on #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:43] <Blue1> Josesordo: yeah the old legacy mode drivers were in 10.04 - removed in 10.10
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: can you give the output of:   uname -a; lsb_release -a; dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[20:43] <Josesordo> ikonia, or in this install driver tool it will be install the same driver?
[20:43] <argon> actionParsnip : howto switch back to compiz, i can't research now because unity is gone
[20:43] <reprapperMC> ok,...I'm using 11.04 with a TP-link TL-WN727n. I've got it connected and can load web pages. However, the connection is very slow.
[20:43] <lapion> at least on one of the two laptops it took several attempts before bluetooth could be activated
[20:43] <ikonia> Josesordo: it will install the ubuntu recommended/supported ones
[20:43] <ActionParsnip> argon: press ALT+F2 and run:  compiz --replace
[20:43] <Josesordo> ikonia, ahh ok.. lets see then.. Thanks a lot!!
[20:43] <arnab> ls -ltr
[20:44] <argon> actionParsnip : alt + f2 -> nothing happens
[20:44] <Goliath> hey i have the last ubuntu. what is the command to install kde?
[20:44] <neothecat> hello.  i just updated to 11.04, and now when i boot, i get "VFS: Cannot open root device "sda2" or unknown-block(0,0)", then Kernel panic - not syncing.  this is the same partition my 10.04 was on, and the grub config looks correct...
[20:44] <econdudeawesome> http://pastebin.com/CVqrFHH1
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> argon: then run it from a terminal
[20:44] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/CVqrFHH1
[20:44] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: so if a user asks for support for chromium-browser package then it will get the same level of support as firefox gets
[20:44] <rodger_nc> just installed 11.04 and am unable to run unity also I get a message "over drive" on boot but then it seems to reset and Ubutu loads. Any ideas how to fix?  Sceptre LCD 60Hz not certain what the graphics card is...
[20:44] <Edd> hello, i upgraded from maverick to natty , everything was done gr8, after reboot i couldnt boot in, i got a shell window login
[20:44] <oldos2er> Goliath: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:44] <LjL> ActionParsnip: yes, that's correct as far as this channel goes
[20:44] <Josesordo> ikonia, ahh another question.. I tried to run the google chrome installer (a .deb file) and dont open like old distro now.. why?
[20:45] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: that doesn't mean it's in main, and it doesn't mean it's "highly recommended" by anyone but rgr, #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> LjL: thats sad
[20:45] <Blue1> rodger_nc: lspci | grep VGA
[20:45] <illmortal> i'm gonna take a screen shot of what's going on with my desktop.. It's like deteriorating
[20:45] <norixy> Hi there.
[20:45] <ikonia> Josesordo: depends if it's for that version, however you should look in the repos for packages rather than installing external pacakges
[20:45] <norixy> hello pablo_ :)
[20:45] <ActionParsnip> ljl: that's alomost like forcing users to use firefox as they are using a 'lesser' browser
[20:45] <gmachine_24> norixy please ask a question
[20:45] <norixy> heyho crazyrohila :)
[20:46] <norixy> hello mehz ;)
[20:46] <malv> does anyone know why when I middle click in firefox4 2-3 tabs come up?
[20:46] <norixy> heyho malv
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: sudo apt-get --purge remove flashplugin-installer     does it remove it?
[20:46] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: you really just need to ask yourself, are you supporting ubuntu or all the things people can run on ubuntu; if the latter you have an unbounded set, much like backtrack isn't a supported variant, people would rather know the former well and tell people how to use what is supported, to keep the possibilities small
[20:46] <arnab> how can i get text only interface in ubuntu?
[20:46] <LjL> ActionParsnip: what? i said this channel DOES provide the same support for Chromium as for Firefox
[20:46] <gmachine_24> norixy: enough with the hellos
[20:46] <malv> hi
[20:46] <norixy> heyho cadmium :)
[20:46] <gmachine_24> good grief
[20:46] <norixy> hey Castor__
[20:46] <LjL> ohsix: Universe is a bounded set
[20:46] <Edd> any1 ?
[20:46] <ohsix> LjL: i meant things outside of universe, not this particular discussion in general; the overarching one
[20:46] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I support the ALL package which are in the official repos, simple. I don't rank them because one is in a different repo, thats just pathetic
[20:46] <rodger_nc> Blue1:  nVidia Corporation C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] (rev a2)
[20:46] <Edd> i upgraded from maverick to natty , everything was done gr8, after reboot i couldnt boot in, i got a shell window login
[20:46] <lapion> since upgrade to natty It's difficult to activate bluetooth on 2 laptops..
[20:46] <LjL> ohsix: ok
[20:47] <Somelauw> Hi, how on earth do I kill the graphical version of bsh?
[20:47] <Edd> and i got the same error after a fresh installation for 11.04
[20:47] <ohsix> LjL: certainly people can also draw the line at main / universe ... but i don't; just minimal support for doing stupid things :]
[20:47] <arnab> that's exactly what i want
[20:47] <arnab> how can i get a shell window login in ubuntu?
[20:47] <Somelauw> Its name doesn't show up in top.
[20:47] <arnab> i have natty but i still get                                                                                                gui
[20:47] <oldos2er> Edd: have you tried 'startx' ?
[20:47] <ActionParsnip> LjL:so both are equally supported
[20:47] <Edd> i dont get gui
[20:47] <Somelauw> arnab: ctrl + alt + F1 shows tty.
[20:47] <Josesordo> ikonia, ahh ok..anyways I installed the chromium.. seems similar =)
[20:47] <Edd> oldos2er yes i did
[20:47] <Blue1> rodger_nc: that card is well supported in previous versions (it's what I have here) i am runint 10.10 with no issues, but I have read of severe nividia problems with 11.04 -- as always ymmv applies.
[20:47] <Edd> it says i should install xinist pkg
[20:48] <Somelauw> and ctrl + alt + f7 to get back
[20:48] <lapion> arnab, tried ctrl-alt-f1
[20:48] <oldos2er> Edd: what happens? What video card do you have?
[20:48] <Edd> intel oldos2er
[20:48] <illmortal> Can someone tell me why I have the white upper border on my desktop.. going across both my screens as well as that start menu panel on the right side?... I'd like to remove the panel on the left screen. then just slide the right panel to the left screen: http://tinypic.com/r/rkc1ef/7
[20:48] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i was talking about things like teamviewer, which are recommended to be used a lot; but aren't in the repos, i won't help them do it
[20:48] <ahmed_> hello
[20:49] <arnab> thanks it worked - ctrl+alt+f7 also brought me back :)
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: the main part there is "but aren't in the repos". I only support apps in the official repos here, both chromium and firefox are in the official repos, so they both getequal support
[20:49] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: it failed on me
[20:49] <oldos2er> Edd: try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-video-intel
[20:49] <gmachine_24> illmortal: the pics on tinypic look fine to me
[20:49] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: as LjL said the distinction between main / universe may not matter here; but i was speaking of "support" with the package, and that does involve where it is in the repos
[20:49] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: can you pastebin the result please
[20:49] <rodger_nc> Blue1: yep - it worked without a hitch in 10.x but then Unity wasn't the default GUI ...
[20:49] <rich> #ubuntustudio
[20:49] <Somelauw> Can someone please give me advice how to kill xbsh?
[20:49] <hw> hey everyone, I am stumped on an issue... google isnt my friend today
[20:50] <Edd> oldos2er i will and get back to u if it works
[20:50] <astro73|derrial> just upgraded my ubuntu, and it seems that my GeForce GT 430 isn't be used by X at all, just using the on-board intel. Enabling the nvidia driver broke  3d acceleration on the intel.
[20:50] <illmortal> huh? how gmachine_24 my start menu is missing images if that makes any sense
[20:50] <oldos2er> Edd: you'll need to use sudo
[20:50] <Josesordo> How to change the background in login screen in Ubuntu 11.04?... Please
[20:50] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: the community supports the universe repos, as LjL said, we ARE the community and so we support both equally
[20:50] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i "support" both, but that was never the sense of the word that i was using, we should take this to message if you have anything further
[20:50] <illmortal> start menu buttons*
[20:50] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/jdsX7BZ5
[20:50] <Edd> yea sure i will
[20:50] <Somelauw> I already tried killal xbsh
[20:50] <Edd> brb
[20:50] <hw> when I log into this ubuntu 10.04.2 lts box it says I have a bunch of updates.... but when I run apt-get update or upgrade, it says zero upgraded...
[20:50] <gmachine_24> illmortal: sorry, when I made the images bigger and looked at the 'raw' image I see what you mean. And I don't have an answer.
[20:50] <MrMist1> ohsix: man hdparm doesn't say anything about apm. Do you mean that hdparm.conf demands other set values of the disks APM-parameter than the hdparm -y/hdparm -S commands?
[20:50] <hw> anyone have any ideas?
[20:51] <illmortal> boo..
[20:51] <rgr> ActionParsnip: agreed. + until FF4 Chromium browser was far suprioer in terms of css compliance, speed and keyboard navigation. I recommend it over FF as a general rule.
[20:51] <iceroot> hw: does it say "hold"? you have to use dist-upgrade to get all updates
[20:51] <illmortal> and i thought right clicking on the desktop.. gave you the option to, "refresh" your desktop?
[20:51] <LinuxHack3r> How can I add a "custom" resolution to xorg.conf? I need 1280x1024
[20:51] <Omega> hw: did you try sudo apt-get update and then upgrade?
[20:51] <tasslehoff> anyone running ubuntu on a macbook pro that can tell me how they choose 3d level on the keyboard?
[20:51] <hw> yea, I am in as root
[20:51] <Goliath> hey how can i make windows appear as a choice in grub boot menu?
[20:51] <ohsix> MrMist1: press /-B and hit enter in the manual viewer; it will take you right to it
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> rgr: i support both, I mainly uses arora these days personally as I have branched out and researched into other browsers :)
[20:52] <iceroot> LinuxHack3r: first try if it is working, "xrandr -s 1280x1024"
[20:52] <ohsix> rgr: in your opinion, be clear
[20:52] <LjL> ActionParsnip, rgr, ohsix: would you join -ops for a minute, i'd like to talk about this without bothering the people here any further
[20:52] <rgr> Goliath: "run sudo update-grub" and hope for the best
[20:52] <Omega> rgr: Don't spread untruths. Chromium wasn't and isn't more accessible.
[20:52] <iceroot> LinuxHack3r: xrandr -q  is showing you what your card/monitor supports
[20:52] <welaunchit> How on earth do I close a bug report on launchpad? I can see where I can choose between the various statuses, but not how to close it altogether.
[20:52] <eamon> whats 3d level?
[20:52] <rgr> Omega: sorry? I never said it was.
[20:52] <Goliath> rgr: dont i need to edit some config?
[20:52] <illmortal> Omega... it seems to handle Flash better than Firefox.
[20:52] <rgr> Goliath: probably not.
[20:52] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: what is the output of: fuser -v /var/cache/debconf/config.dat
[20:52] <Omega> rgr: "keyboard navigation"
[20:52] <rgr> I recently dit and got win 7 back just fine.
[20:53] <illmortal> but it doesn't support html short cuts like CTRL+B = Bold code :(
[20:53] <erkan^> When I open URL (http) for her, than i see the startpagina for firefox, how can that?
[20:53] <LinuxHack3r> iceroot: But the thing is...I am using a vga monitor to my dvi card using an adapter...and it doesn't detect the "default" of 1280x1024...
[20:53] <rgr> Omega: keyboard navigation <> acessibility.
[20:53] <pabloice> c'è qualcuno??
[20:53] <pabloice> mi potete aiutare
[20:53] <LjL> !it | pabloice
[20:53] <Omega> rgr: What I'm trying to say is, it's not more keyboard friendly.
[20:53] <root_> help me !!my unity not working after i messed with ldxm/gdm and lightdm
[20:53] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: nothing. No output
[20:54] <Omega> root_: What did you do?
[20:54] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debconf/+bug/349469   has a fix, I've not used it. I suggest youo MOVE the files instead of deleting
[20:54] <LinuxHack3r> iceroot: I need to know what line to add to xorg.conf for that resolution, I've done it before but I cannot remember exactly what it is...
[20:54] <root_> have to type gksu unity for dispalying panal auncer
[20:54] <Goliath> rgr: strange thing i did that and when i choose windows on boot i get a black screen
[20:54] <Goliath> any idea?
[20:54] <rgr> Omega: not my finding but if you dont think so you're entitled to that. I dont wish to talk about chromium vd firefox. My only real comment was to correct that claim that FF is better supported for Ubuntu.
[20:55] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: What does this mean?
[20:55] <MattC> I am having an issue regarding installing ubuntu...
[20:55] <Omega> rgr: This wasn't about firefox vs. chromium. My only real comment was to correct that claim that chromium is more keyboard friendly and more CSS compliant.
[20:55] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: read the bug, instead of deleting as the text says, move the files. This gives a rollback path
[20:55] <MattC> I downloaded the CD from the website,
[20:55] <lapion> if you are having problems enabling bluetooth, just use the init script..
[20:55] <MattC> and used it to install.
[20:56] <Omega> rgr: I think we should leave it at that, we're getting in the way of helping users :)
[20:56] <sam-_-> Omega: how is this related to ubuntu?
[20:56] <logi01> lapion: my sound works with the new kernel in safe mode. But when i login with any other mode it freeze :/
[20:56] <lapion> sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth restart
[20:56] <MattC> once the installation was done
[20:56] <Omega> sam-_-: See my previous comment.
[20:56] <gmachine_24> MattC: Please tell us what the problem is and which version of Ubuntu, etc.
[20:56] <mongy> remind me never to tick "install 3rd party software" during install while still in the first few days of release.. 2 hours later, thanks to people hammering the servers :(
[20:56] <lapion> I have to go afk sorry logi01
[20:56] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: Where do I go to read the fix? I apologize for pestering, I've just never worked a fix/workaound in this way
[20:56] <Blue1> lapion: sudo service bluetooth restart is a tad easier
[20:56] <vantage> rgr: Is there a bug for the display freezing on the daru2 anywhere?  Is it display driver specific?
[20:56] <Omega> sam-_-: not misinforming users is a big part of being professional, no?
[20:56] <MattC> it asked me to remove the CD so it could re-boot.
[20:56] <logi01> lapion: ok thx
[20:57] <iceroot> LinuxHack3r: http://pastebin.com/RrQbiayr
[20:57] <mza> hi all. Ubuntu 10.04 an unity is realy great
[20:57] <MattC> so after I did, and it rebooted, it just sat there.
[20:57] <lapion> bluethanks Blue1
[20:57] <Blue1> mza: huh?
[20:57] <sam-_-> mza: 10.04 or 11.04?
[20:57] <MrMist1> ohsix: Well... interesting thing this. I'm trying to set the APM value by using hdparm.conf, but the hdparm -I command still returns 254
[20:57] <mza> sam :)
[20:57] <gmachine_24> MattC: which version of Ubuntu?
[20:57] <mza> i was wrong
[20:57] <MattC> after going thru the POST screen
[20:57] <mza> 11.04 :P
[20:57] <Mjiig> 'lo everyone, anyone know how i can reorder items in the unity side bar. nothing i try does anything...
[20:58] <gmachine_24> MattC: You might try turning the computer off completely and restarting it.
[20:58] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: in the link I gave, read it
[20:58] <ohsix> MrMist1: seagate drives can be pretty weird
[20:58] <gmachine_24> I know it sounds silly, .... but sometimes that does it
[20:58] <MattC> @gmachine_24: 11.04
[20:58] <mza> anyway, anybody knows if unity is "free" enough and maybe will be aviable for other distros ?
[20:58] <MrMist1> ohsix: It worked on 10.04
[20:58] <Blue1> mza: no
[20:58] <ohsix> MrMist1: you need to set your options with hdparm initially, if you want to check immediately if they take effect
[20:58] <gmachine_24> MattC: do you have any other installs on your hard drive?
[20:59] <hihihi100> all my workspaces appear as "workspace 1", shouldnt they be numbered?
[20:59] <MattC> no
[20:59] <squidly> does anyone know a softphone that that works with broadvoice?
[20:59] <illmortal> anyone know how I can remove my upper panels? It's flaking out on me.
[20:59] <ohsix> MrMist1: to test my hdparm.conf changes i just unplugged and replugged in my power cord on my laptop, that isn't practical for everyone and you can still run the power script manually to apply them immediately
[20:59] <gmachine_24> MattC: did you shut the computer off and restart it?
[20:59] <MattC> many times,
[20:59] <gmachine_24> MattC: ok
[20:59] <ohsix> MrMist1: but best practice, set manually with hdparm, then migrate your settings to be applied to hdparm.conf; and to note that hdparm.conf has settings for when it's on battery and when it isn't
[21:00] <hihihi100> am I the only one that can use internet with tor on after the upgrade?
[21:00] <j0nr> ohsix: ok, so i did apt-get install <that backports package> and rebooted... should I be doing anything else?
[21:00] <econdudeawesome> Sorry ActionParsnip had to relogin
[21:00] <hihihi100> am I the only one that can use internet ONLY with tor on after the upgrade?
[21:00] <iceroot> mza: unity is published with lgpl
[21:00] <gmachine_24> MattC: I don't know what to tell you. Did you check hardware compatibility? Were you running an earlier version of Ubuntu before 11.04? If so, which one?
[21:01] <dustin_> If I upgrade to Ubuntu 11.04 will it remove my custom desktop(gnome panels with plasma work area) and switch it to unity?
[21:01] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hey.. I'm not doing anything more than "hdparm -S 32". And voila, it works. Then I set hdparm.conf to /dev/sdd { spindown_time = 32 }, and it's not working
[21:01] <mza> well, i start to like unity alot. is there any flamewar out ther about unity and gnome3?
[21:01] <MrMist1> I haven't done ANYTHING else with HDparm
[21:01] <sakuramboo> ive installed a few games, but they do not show up in the games menu in unity, is there a way to manually add them?
[21:01] <iceroot> dustin_: not remove, just not used by default
[21:01] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: no worries
[21:01] <mza> google is my friend
[21:01] <iceroot> mza: #ubuntu-offtopic, #gnome
[21:01] <iceroot> mza: and yes there is but this is not the right place for that
[21:02] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: So what is the next step then? The bug you showed me seems to show that my config/dat file was locked before upgrade? Am I understanding this right?
[21:02] <gmachine_24> uhmm.... what is flameware?
[21:02] <mza> yes you are right iceroot.
[21:02] <mjn> squidly, freeswitch?
[21:02] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: the bug fix apparently is the move the files out of the folder and run a command, its on the bug
[21:02] <gmachine_24> ok nm
[21:02] <ohsix> MrMist1: i dont' know what to say, i'm using 11.04 and it works here, let me triple check right now
[21:03] <squidly> mjn: is that a package?
[21:03] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: files out of the debconf folder? Will they respawn?
[21:03] <ohsix> MrMist1: they are being applied here
[21:03] <MrMist1> ohsix: How can you see? By hdparm -I ?
[21:03] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: assumedly so, I advise you move them so you can move them back if you get issue
[21:04] <enav> do you guys know an alternative to NO-IP client for Ubuntu desktop ?   because NO-IP is hard to install
[21:04] <ohsix> my apm level switches between 254 & 128 on ac and off, like i set, and my AAM level is statically set to 128, as i also desire and put in hdparm.conf
[21:04] <ohsix> MrMist1: yep, hdparm -I
[21:04] <econdudeawesome> k
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> enav: noip2
[21:04] <Guest99294> ro
[21:04] <enav> ActionParsnip: hi bro long time no see you
[21:04] <Guest99294> ?
[21:04] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hmm... strange
[21:04] <ActionParsnip> enav: howdy
[21:04] <enav> ActionParsnip: dude you are always here... i see u really love this cahnnel!!!
[21:04] <astro73> what's the best place to get support for nvidia cards?
[21:04] <eamon> hello
[21:05] <eamon> astra05: nvidia forums
[21:05] <ActionParsnip> enav: its fun
[21:05] <rgr> if you find noip hard then I suspect using it wont be that much of a benefit since its not foolproof and can have substantial performance impacts.
[21:05] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: after I take the files out, what do I do?
[21:05] <ProfessorBacon> i can't get used to unity
[21:05] <enav> ActionParsnip: hahah   well i will cehck the noip2 thingy
[21:05] <div-0> hi
[21:05] <MrMist1> ohsix: Is there any way to detect that the script is actually being run during boot?
[21:05] <ProfessorBacon> i feel lost when i'm trying to figure out what applications i have open
[21:05] <eamon> hi div-0
[21:05] <rgr> you can still use htop ;)
[21:06] <ohsix> MrMist1: well it's run during power events, which as far as i know is at least once during boot
[21:06] <gmachine_24> astro73: I might have missed your earlier posts, but you checked for software versions for Nvidia?
[21:06] <div-0> i have a problem with the installation of ubuntu on my laptop. (described here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742929&highlight=1520 )
[21:06] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: ah, found it
[21:06] <eamon> MrMist1: you could put "echo "IT'S WORKING!!!!!!!!!"" in the script
[21:06] <avinash> schnuffle, thanks man .. adding nameserver <router ip> helped .. thanks very much ..
[21:06] <div-0> now i tried to follow "dinos" instructions, but i cant find a xorg.conf file in my /etc directory, any ideas?
[21:06] <rgr> div-0: does grub not already have a failsafe entry for you?
[21:06] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: same error when I run sudo apt-get install -f
[21:06] <gmachine_24> astro73: under administration>additional drivers?
[21:06] <eamon> div-0 try /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:07] <rgr> div-0: its not in /etc thats why
[21:07] <theclaw> there seems to be something wrong with my gnome setup. when I log in, "gnome-settings-manager" is there twice, and I get the error in .xsession-errors "You can only run one xsettings manager at a time; exiting" - any idea?
[21:07] <rgr> /etc/X11
[21:07] <theclaw> with a new user, everything works
[21:07] <div-0> eamon: yes i looked there
[21:07] <rgr> look up sgfxi too
[21:07] <div-0> there is no xorg.conf
[21:07] <eamon> div-0: make one
[21:07] <black_> quit
[21:07] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: ok have the files been recreated?
[21:07] <rgr> yes, its a half arsed move to not needing one. many people do.
[21:07] <div-0> eamon: how? just a blank file?
[21:07] <eamon> yes
[21:07] <eamon> normal text file
[21:08] <rgr> sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf but that wont help one iota.
[21:08] <MrMist1> ohsix: I'm running a "ubuntu-server" machine... don't know it that matters. I've also got the disks mounted via fstab... but I still want them to spin down
[21:08] <anonymity> anyone available to answer some questions about networking and Ubuntu?
[21:08] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: some of them. Not all of them. And I can no longer sudo...
[21:08] <rgr> anonymity: just ask
[21:08] <eamon> !ask ¦ anonymity
[21:08] <econdudeawesome> rather, sudo nautlius
[21:08] <rgr> oh god...
[21:09] <ohsix> MrMist1: oh, i dont think it does, but acpi power events might not run on the server version, i do not know
[21:09] <eamon> !details ¦ anonymity
[21:09] <kjxl9> hey
[21:09] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: then you may need to boot to root recovery mode and copy back if you have not an interactive sudo going
[21:09] <eamon> !details
[21:09] <eamon> !ask
[21:09] <rgr> MrMist1: why do you want to spin your disks down out of curiosity?
[21:10] <div-0> rgr, eamon: ok thx, not sure that an empty file does much
[21:10] <div-0> :)
[21:10] <rgr> div-0: it doesnt. it was a silyl thing to recommend.
[21:10] <ohsix> rgr: do not suggest people use sgfxi, _someone_ has to clean up the mess afterwards, if that someone is you, tell them in private, but not here
[21:10] <rgr> what card?
[21:10] <kjxl9> is there a package that has drivers that deal with ps3 controllers?
[21:10] <arrrghhh> rgr, and now it's "fast" again.  2.2MB/s... I don't get it, nothing changed other than the client reboot.
[21:10] <eamon> div-0: you'll want to add whatever that guide is telling you to add to that file
[21:10] <div-0> rgr: nvidia GT8600M GT
[21:10] <rgr> arrrghhh: best not to question nfs ;)
[21:11] <helo_> anyone else think that unity is awesome?
[21:11] <rgr> div-0: did you run nvidia-settings?
[21:11] <arrrghhh> rgr, samba has problems too it seems... usually NFS is better.
[21:11] <rgr> pr sgfxi?
[21:11] <_Mr_Proper_> Bah, Bombono just gave me corrupted data.. Can anyone recommend a decent dvd burner for ubuntu?
[21:11] <arrrghhh> !ot | helo_, this room is for support not for chat.
[21:11] <_Mr_Proper_> (Don't want all the KDE stuff thats prereq for k3b)
[21:11] <helo_> ehh
[21:11] <div-0> rgr: i cant run that, i cant read a thing on that installation. im currently online with a lubuntu 10.10 livecd so that i can go online, and mount the wubi root.disk image
[21:11] <eamon> rgr: why is it silly to recommend to make an xorg.conf file?
[21:12] <helo_> it sure was the place to complain about unity yesterday, but ok :)
[21:12] <ayrton> i updated my ubuntu to 11.04 but i think i got the netbook version,
[21:12] <rgr> arrrghhh: dont join the net nannying spammers please ...
[21:12] <kjxl9> is there a package that has drivers that deal with ps3 controllers?
[21:12] <ayrton> how do i change it to desktop
[21:12] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: I pretty much use anything and it works.
[21:12] <eamon> kjxl9: the drivers are in the kernel
[21:12] <arrrghhh> rgr, he was asking something that was highly opinionated...
[21:12] <rgr> kjxl9: http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html
[21:12] <_Mr_Proper_> Got a warning about corrupt data this time, and it wont open on any machines.. Perhaps I should reduce the burn speed manually
[21:12] <arrrghhh> pretty sure i'm not a 'net nannying spammer', thanks.
[21:12] <rgr> very hard to find..
[21:13] <LjL> rgr: offtopic is offtopic, please don't discourage people from telling others where the appropriate place to discuss something is.
[21:13] <Galvatron> ayrton: First of all, chceck if there are some options like "Classic" or "GNOME" in the session menu of login screen.
[21:13] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: I use CLI for burning CDs and DVDs and making iso files, etc. seems to be the easiest, fastest and most reliable
[21:13] <eamon> rgr: why do you say that making an xorg.conf file is silly?
[21:13] <rgr> arrrghhh: well, you just came back to say nfs was working. He just came back to say unity was working. I fail to see why you "botted" him. IMO theres too much of that in response to perfectly good and on topic answers.
[21:14] <rgr> anywy glad its working. brb-
[21:14] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: you got a corrupt data error when?
[21:14] <arrrghhh> i'm kinda mad a reboot was the fix, but whatever.  i guess i don't need to troubleshoot it any further...
[21:14] <pumeust> gnu ddrescue manual says 'never try to rescue a r/w mounted partition'. how do i know if a partition is r/w so i can avoid this?
[21:14] <kjxl9> eamon, so i dont have to download any packages?
[21:14] <MrMist1> ohsix: rgr: Simple, really. I've got three drives. One for the OS.  The second drive contains home folders (samba shared). They're being used maybe once or twice a day. To have the disk spinning all the time is a waste of energy, and it's noisy. The third drive is the backup drive. I'm going to script it to copy drive 2 once every night. It's never being used for anything else. Hence, two of the drives should be spun down.
[21:14] <Galvatron> _Mr_Proper_: I' also read that the default Ubuntu burning backend - "wodim" - is kinda problematic, and oerally not too good, and so it's better to install "cdrtools" from a PPA.
[21:15] <guntbert> pumeust: type mount and look at the output
[21:15] <helo_> i can't get my bcm4306 v 3 to work with ndiswrapper... it worked in 10.10, but now ndiswrapper -l says "alternate driver ssb" even though ssb is blacklisted, removed from initramfs, and not even loaded
[21:15] <_Mr_Proper_> gmachine_24, Galvatron, thanks
[21:15] <_Mr_Proper_> gmachine_24, Bombono popped it up after the burn was meant to be complete
[21:15] <ohsix> MrMist1: you need not give me any justification, and wasn't your problem that it wasn't being applied?
[21:15] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: I am still having the same issue--nspluginwrapper and adobe-installer are not installing
[21:16] <Galvatron> _Mr_Proper_: Tou might also try getting rid of wodim.
[21:16] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: I use wodim without a problem.
[21:16] <hihihi100> i can see the log while my machine boots, like the whole screen was a terminal, how do I get a better looking screen during booting? its before I am asked to choose a user and password
[21:16] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: what burning software were you using?
[21:16] <MrMist1> ohsix: Yeah, it was meant for the other guy. I just wanted to tell you as well :) He wondered why I needed to spin them down :)
[21:16] <_Mr_Proper_> gmachine_24, Bombono DVD from the repo
[21:17] <ohsix> MrMist1: well, unless you want to waste your time, let him wonder; let me poke around a bit
[21:17] <Edd> im having trouble installing natty
[21:17] <Galvatron> _Mr_Proper_: Try things like Brasero, Gnome Baker or K3B
[21:17] <KatronixSerf> Hi all, before Natty came out officially I was running Beta 2 of it, I should be able to upgrade to the full version right?
[21:17] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: ahh, see, I have not used that. any of the GUI cd/dvd burning programs have been a problem for me
[21:17] <ohsix> MrMist1: ok didn't have to look much! udev applies hdparm settings when drives show up, so it should apply at boot
[21:17] <pumeust> guntbert, thanks. so what do i do if i have a r/w mount partition i want to resuce?
[21:17] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: which is why I stick with the command line
[21:18] <div-0> is there a way to install the nivida drivers by just mounting the ubuntu partition from another system?
[21:18] <Galvatron> _Mr_Proper_: Of course, K3B is not exactly recommended for GNOME as installing it means a mess with downloading a lot of KDE components.
[21:18] <ohsix> MrMist1: barring udev not working, or you not using an intitramfs or some other odd special situation you've created for yourself, it should work
[21:18] <MrMist1> ohsix: I've changed the script /lib/udev/hdparam now... touching a file when it's run. Trying to boot to check if the file is being created
[21:18] <illmortal> Ok.. gonna restart my PC... this buggy panel is annoying.
[21:18] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: I literally never have a problem or bad disk
[21:18] <_Mr_Proper_> Yeah, I liked K3B in the past, but don't fancy KDE dependency hell.. I'd normally use CLI, but was kinda in a rush, so click and go was more what I was after!
[21:18] <Edd> After installation of natty i get into a shell login, no GUI
[21:18] <ohsix> MrMist1: don't change those files, they will be overwritten on an update
[21:19] <ohsix> MrMist1: er nm that's probably ok
[21:19] <_Mr_Proper_> Doing it in DeVeDe now, at a reduced rate, we'll see what happens :) Thanks for the help
[21:19] <ohsix> MrMist1: you can just ask udev to be noisy about what it's doing, and do it without a reboot even
[21:19] <MrMist1> ohsix: It's ok.. it's just for debugging purposes. Hehe
[21:19] <Galvatron> KatronixSerf: All you need to do is installing all  the latest updates and you are home.
[21:19] <ohsix> MrMist1: sec i'll whip up something to run
[21:19] <Guest1956> katronixSerf i had no trouble upgrading it
[21:20] <MrMist1> ohsix: Thanks. I'm booting now to see if the script creates the file
[21:20] <gmachine_24> _Mr_Proper_: for the  most part the GUI dvd burners in Linux are just that .... graphic interfaces for command line programs
[21:20] <gmachine_24> so....................
[21:20] <ohsix> MrMist1: udevadm test /sys/block/sdd it will run udev and tell you everything it does, here it says at the end: udevadm_test: run: '/lib/udev/hdparm'
[21:20] <Edd> any1 can answer ?
[21:21] <eamon> div-0: are you still having trouble with the nvidia drivers?
[21:21] <gmachine_24> Edd: you boot the computer and it goes straight to a c:/?
[21:21] <div-0> eamon yes
[21:21] <guntbert> pumeust: if it you just want to check the file system:  The command "sudo shutdown -F -r now" will force a reboot and a filesystem check
[21:21] <Edd> gmachine_24 goes straight to grub
[21:21] <Edd> i choose the kernel
[21:21] <Edd> i login to tty
[21:22] <Edd> startx fails with an error of not installed pkg of xinit
[21:22] <BladeFreak> I'm trying to install QT4 on ubuntu, is there no package for it?
[21:22] <Edd> never had this error since ubuntu 7
[21:22] <tuxz> what do you think is the best distro for gnome 3?
[21:22] <LjL> !best | tuxz
[21:22] <tuxz> BladeFreak: its just called qt
[21:22] <eamon> div-0: have you tried following this guide? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto If so, what step are you stuck on?
[21:22] <gmachine_24> Edd: after choosing a kernel why does it go to a tty?
[21:22] <Dr_Willis> Edd:  i saw that on some OTHER disrto then ubuntu once. you are having this issue in 11.04 ?
[21:22] <tuxz> LjL: i asked your opinion
[21:22] <pumeust> guntbert, what if i wanted to recover partition or data?
[21:22] <LjL> BladeFreak: uhm, it will get installed automatically when you install a package that depends on it
[21:22] <Edd> gmachine_24 it gives the loading screen of pkgs
[21:22] <MrMist1> ohsix: The hdparm.called was NOT created during boot. Which again means that /lib/udev/hdparm is not being called
[21:23] <Edd> then it gives an error of no turbo driver or something
[21:23] <LjL> tuxz: and i have to tell you that unfortunately opinion polls are not allowed in this 1730-people channel. try #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:23] <Edd> and i login to tty
[21:23] <div-0> eamon: the problem is i cant access the system. i'm only able to mount the partition from within a livecd i booted
[21:23] <guntbert> pumeust: best begin by telling what your problem is :)
[21:23] <MrMist1> ohsix: Ehm.. but I'm just booting using "sudo reboot", not a physical on/off. Should I try that?
[21:23] <div-0> eamon: the screen is unreadable (see screenshot here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1742929&highlight=1520 )
[21:23] <gmachine_24> Edd: I guess if you hit cntrl + alt + F7 you get nothing....?
[21:23] <tuxz> ljL: but if in your opinion the answer to my question is ubuntu then its not offtopic, is it?
[21:23] <Edd> i gues tthe boot screen
[21:24] <LjL> tuxz: no, still offtopic
[21:24] <Edd> containing the running rpocesses
[21:24] <gmachine_24> Edd: ok
[21:24] <LjL> tuxz: ontopic for here is Ubuntu technical support. opinion polls don't fall under technical support.
[21:24] <Tetsuo55> can anyon reproduce this? with chrome as the default browser i click on a link in konversation, and instead of switching to chrome the desktop crashes and i have to log in again. and apport does not catch this event
[21:24] <gmachine_24> Edd: I'm afraid this is above my pay grade
[21:24] <Edd> ok gmachine_24
[21:24] <cabbagemoonlight> is there an easy way to use vnc securely?  i need a tutorial
[21:24] <gmachine_24> Edd: have you searched for the error you get re: turbo driver on google or ubuntu?
[21:25] <Edd> ah
[21:25] <tuxz> i wouldnt call whats the name of the qt4 package technical either. but whatever. enjoy your saturday evening
[21:25] <Edd> that's the perfect error
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> cabbagemoonlight:  a ssh tunnle is the normal way to secure it.
[21:25] <MrMist1> ohsix: Strange... tried your test, and it still says it's trying running the file, but no "hdparm.called" file is being created
[21:25] <Dr_Willis> !vnc | cabbagemoonlight
[21:25] <Edd> gmachine_24: plymouth command failed
[21:25] <sraue> tuxz: try Fedora 15 (live)
[21:25] <Edd> disconnected from plymouth
[21:25] <BladeFreak> LjL: I'm trying to compile a build that requires QT4 as a dependency, i tried "sudo apt-get install qt" , but I get a "E: Unable to locate package qt"
[21:25] <Edd> >>> mountall
[21:25] <cabbagemoonlight> !FreeNX
[21:25] <LjL> BladeFreak: ah, then you need the -dev packages. hold on while i find the name
[21:25] <pumeust> guntbert, i need to recover data from hard drives so i've been reading up on the subject and i just wanted to make sure i dont try to rescue a r/w mount since the manual says not to do this, and to know what to do if what i want to recover happens to be r/w mount
[21:25] <eamon> div-0: I can link you to an advaced guide that will allow you to hi-jack the system from a live cd and edit the root filesystem from the livecd as though it were the native root filesystem of the environment
[21:25] <cabbagemoonlight> thanks Dr_Willis
[21:25] <LjL> !info libqt4-dev | BladeFreak
[21:26] <eamon> div-0: This is kihd of advanced, do you want that guide?
[21:26] <gmachine_24> Edd: I am clueless about the plymouth command
[21:26] <div-0> eamon: sure, at this point i try everything :)
[21:26] <ohsix> MrMist1: well test doesn't actually run it, it just says what is done when the device name shows up, ie. what's done at boot
[21:26] <guntbert> pumeust: in that case it is best you do everything after booting from a live CD
[21:26] <BladeFreak> LjL: it's working, thanks for taking the trouble to help :)
[21:27] <MrMist1> but it should create the file as soon as the script is run.. and it hasn't been created
[21:27] <kroimpa> hi bnguys, when i try to allow 192.168.1.0/24 to access port 22 tcp using: ufw allow from 192.168.1.0/24 to tcp port 22, it gives a a bad destination address
[21:27] <kroimpa> any idea why?
[21:27] <asdf_msc> anybody gotten WoW working after upgrading to ubuntu 11.04?
[21:27] <ohsix> MrMist1: let me look some more, i don't know of any circumstances where it might be disabled, but it very well may be for some reason on server
[21:28] <kroimpa> root@kroimpa:~# ufw allow from 192.168.1.0/24 to tcp port 139
[21:28] <kroimpa> ERROR: Bad destination address
[21:28] <gmachine_24> Edd: did you check something like this? http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/plymouth-command-failed-868723/
[21:28] <cabbagemoonlight> one more question, is there an easy way (GUI) to set up a ssh server?
[21:28] <LjL> cabbagemoonlight: uhm, what is there to set up?
[21:28] <ohsix> cabbagemoonlight: what's to set up?
[21:28] <Augustuen> @cabbagemoonlight sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[21:28] <cabbagemoonlight> i mean all the authentication and whatnots..its looks too complex
[21:29] <BladeFreak> btw, I must say, Ubuntu 11.04 rocks! I'm impressed by the improvements since 9.04... It detected my 3g usb modem and was easy to connect, it was even easier than in windows   :O
[21:29] <_Mr_Proper_> cabbagemoonlight, it works pretty well as it comes
[21:29] <MrMist1> ohsix: I called "head /lib/udev/hdparm" - http://paste.ubuntu.com/601453/
[21:29] <_Mr_Proper_> for basic use
[21:29] <ohsix> cabbagemoonlight: well key and interactive authentication is enabled by default, so you shoul only need to set it up for extremely specialized situations
[21:29] <LjL> cabbagemoonlight: ah, i guess it is a bit, if you want to work with keys. not too familiar with that, but anyway remember you need to set most of that in the *client*, i think...
[21:29] <cabbagemoonlight> ok, so is there a beginners tutorial you can recomend?
[21:30] <ohsix> LjL: server has settings for allowed encodings and authentication methods that can be used by the client,  but they rarely need changing
[21:30] <Augustuen> What should I do if an application I'm trying to compile needs libgtk1.2-dev?
[21:30] <_Mr_Proper_> cabbagemoonlight, http://www.google.com/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=set+up+ubuntu+ssh+server&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&gl=uk
[21:30] <_Mr_Proper_> :)
[21:30] <ohsix> Augustuen: is it a newer version of a package already in ubuntu?
[21:30] <LjL> cabbagemoonlight: https://help.ubuntu.com/10.10/serverguide/C/openssh-server.html
[21:30] <ohsix> !google | _Mr_Proper_
[21:30] <LjL> _Mr_Proper_: that's not very useful
[21:30] <ohsix> _Mr_Proper_: and there is a server guide :]
[21:31]  * _Mr_Proper_ hides
[21:31] <eamon> div-0: This is a gentoo guide. Use your liveCD and open a terminal, then mount your root filesystem that you want to install drivers on to "/mnt/gentoo" (the name does not matter, its whats used in the guide) the follow the steps at "entering the new environment" on http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-amd64.xml?part=1&chap=6 then start installing the nvidia packages according to this
[21:31] <eamon> guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[21:31] <FloodBot2> eamon: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <ohsix> LjL \is beating me to everything today
[21:31] <_Mr_Proper_> I used the second one on the list when I set up I think
[21:31] <Augustuen> ohsix: libgtk1.2-dev is no longer available with apt-get :(
[21:31] <ohsix> Augustuen: oh 1.2
[21:31]  * LjL beats ohsix up with a wet towel
[21:31] <ohsix> Augustuen: what program is it?
[21:31] <div-0> eamon: ok thanks, i'll try
[21:31] <Augustuen> ohsix: Putty
[21:31] <asdf_msc> anyone notice what's broken in this? fixme:win:EnumDisplayDevicesW ((null),0,0x32ed74,0x00000000), stub!
[21:31] <tasslehoff> which gmail indicator/notifier is a good choice in 11.04?
[21:31] <logi01> Is it possible to deactivate global menu in 11.04?
[21:31] <_Mr_Proper_> Right, DVD burned successfully with the ubuntu built in disc creator, time to try it out :)
[21:31] <ohsix> Augustuen: is there something wrong with the version in the repos?
[21:31] <kroimpa> any idea when i connt ad this rule? im using the correct format: ufw allow from <ip address> to <protocol> port <port number>
[21:32] <LjL> logi01: it probably will be deactivated if you select a Classical login
[21:32] <kroimpa> root@kroimpa:~# ufw allow from 192.168.1.0/24 to tcp port 139
[21:32] <kroimpa> ERROR: Bad destination address
[21:32] <Augustuen> logi01: if you use the "old" gnome UI
[21:32] <tasslehoff> Used checkgmail before, but wonder if there is anything better out there
[21:32] <Barridus> tasslehoff, evolution handles gmail
[21:32] <pumeust> guntbert,  i see. i was wondering if r/w mount is a thing i can change so its no longer r/w mount so i can then try to rescue it...anyways i didnt know its best to do this from live cd...i read that the important thing is to first copy image of the disc to another disc
[21:32] <Augustuen> ohsix: the application needs 1.2
[21:32] <trism> logi01: or: sudo apt-get remove indicator-appmenu; then log out/back in
[21:32] <Barridus> and thunderbird
[21:32] <logi01> ok thx
[21:32] <tasslehoff> Barridus: I don't want a client, just a notifier.
[21:33] <ohsix> Augustuen: the version in the repos uses gtk2, what's wrong with the already built packages?
[21:33] <LjL> kroimpa: shouldn't it be: ufw allow proto tcp from 192.168.1.0/24 to any port 139
[21:33] <Augustuen> tasslehoff: If you use google chrome, you can enable it on gmail.com
[21:33] <kroimpa> LjL, ill try that out man :D
[21:33] <Augustuen> ohsix: I'm going to be using the code from Putty to experiment with SSH
[21:33] <KM0201> tasslehoff: you want a gmail notifier?
[21:34] <linuxnetworkmobi> Hello
[21:34] <ohsix> Augustuen: ah well, i'd be really surprised if it didn't offer a way to build with gtk2, and isn't the ssh part separated from teh ui? is this something you cant use openssl or nss or gnutls for?
[21:34] <tasslehoff> KM0201: yeah. have used gmail-notify and checkgmail, but wonder if there are any indicator applet notifiers
[21:34] <MrMist1> ohsix: Couldn't I just create a .sh file calling "hdparm -S 120 /dev/sdd ?
[21:34] <ezro> 메ㅏ
[21:34] <ezro> park
[21:34] <kroimpa> LjL, thanks man! that worked :d
[21:34] <kroimpa> *:D
[21:35] <KM0201> tasslehoff: you should be able to configure mail-notification, to work w/ gmail (i always use checkgmail, nt really sure on the others)
[21:35] <malv> anyone having this middle click repeat problem?
[21:35] <ezro> fgf
[21:35] <guntbert> pumeust: if the disc does not carry part of the actual system (like in forensic examinations) then you can do it from a running system too - step 1) unmount it with   sudo umount  <mount-point>
[21:35] <Augustuen> ohsix: Doing a make now instead of using the script provided, looks like it's going good
[21:35] <Rehan> why does unity require so many more mouseclicks to get to an app compared to gnome2? Am I doing something wrong?
[21:36] <arrrghhh> Rehan, popular apps i would imagine you put on the bar
[21:36] <arrrghhh> so it's one click...
[21:36] <Rehan> arrrghhh: i see
[21:37] <ohsix> MrMist1: you could but it wouldn't fix whatever problem is stopping it from working as it is now
[21:37] <lsv> what does Maverick, Natty, Lucid, Karmic, and Hardy refer to?
[21:37] <arrrghhh> Rehan, you can always go back to "Ubuntu Classic"
[21:37] <arrrghhh> lsv, releases
[21:37] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hehe... I know. But where would I place such a script?
[21:37] <Rehan> arrrghhh: yeah i'm trying to get used to Unity but its just hard to imagine anything being more efficient than a tree hierarchy
[21:37] <arrrghhh> lsv, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Ubuntu_releases if you want to know moar
[21:37] <Rehan> arrrghhh: will give it some more time
[21:38] <Ransoogard> Hello. I have an issue with trying to get Ubuntu to boot without text output after grub and before choosing my user account.
[21:38] <lsv> arrrghhh, thanks.  Is there any way of checkin which one I have using the bash?
[21:38] <ohsix> MrMist1: rc.local, drives get reset at runtime and stuff so it might not stick forever past boot
[21:38] <pumeust> guntbert, thanks for the info
[21:38] <arrrghhh> Rehan, up to you entirely.  i wasn't a big fan of it myself.
[21:38] <lsv> *bash
[21:38] <Ransoogard> Specifically I think xsplash isn't working.
[21:38] <ohsix> Rehan: i don't think one of the goals was efficiency over existing things
[21:38] <l1nuxman> /etc/init.d/asterisk-1.8 status won't even return command not found or whatever. Why not?
[21:38] <MrMist1> ohsix: Should I create a bug report or something about this issue?
[21:38] <arrrghhh> lsv, yes.
[21:38] <l1nuxman> I have asterisk-1.8 installed
[21:38] <ohsix> MrMist1: yea, bonus if you can find the cause, searching to see if there is one already would probably be good
[21:39] <chotaz> Hey everyone, anyone knows a good automated program to upload files on multiple filehosts for ubuntu?
[21:39] <guntbert> pumeust: you're welcome :-)  ... and Good luck :-)
[21:39] <arrrghhh> lsv, sorry.  lsb_release -a.
[21:39] <arrrghhh> i kept typing lsb_release and couldn't figure out why it wasn't working :P
[21:39] <lsv> arrrghh, thank you so much.  You're my new best friend :D
[21:39] <MrMist1> ohsix: I don't know if I know enough about udev to be able to find where the fault is ?
[21:40] <nbf> great I upgrade to natty and it won't boot
[21:40] <arrrghhh> lsv, lol np
[21:40] <Soothsayer> how do I put an app that was not installed through a package into the programs so its accessible through the launcher ?
[21:40] <nbf> "loading initial ramdisk"
[21:40] <nbf> and it hangs
[21:40] <Dr_Willis> Soothsayer:  you could make a proper .desktop file for it. there should be 1000's of .desktop files for other apps to use as an example
[21:40] <cousin_mario> hello
[21:40] <arrrghhh> lsv, also tab-complete should be your new best friend :D.  you can tab complete usernames in here, just type arr -> tab
[21:40] <hobbel> Is there a way to make unity hide a program on click? clicking on an active icon slides the unity launcher out instead of hiding the program :s
[21:41] <cousin_mario> volume applet has disappeared: how do I put it back in the system tray?
[21:41] <lsv> arrrghhh: OMG! you have become my best friend forever!!
[21:41] <Edd> any1 hada problem after installing 11.04 ?
[21:41] <MrMist1> Edd: Yep... having problems with hdparm.
[21:41] <viper474> How can I pass a value between classes?
[21:42] <arrrghhh> lsv, yea i'm addicted to tab complete in the terminal.  you can do it basically everywhere in the CLI
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> cousin_mario: ALT+F2 and run: gnome-volume-control
[21:42] <Rehan> Edd: i had the usual pain in the ass that comes with having an nvidia graphics card
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Edd: installed flawlessly here
[21:42] <LjL> viper474: err, you will want to ask that in ##c++ ##java or whichever language you're using :P
[21:42] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm
[21:42] <herol3oy> does anyone here upgrade his/her ubuntu 10.10 by this >> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade       just wanna know that everything is cool now?
[21:42] <herol3oy> no problem?
[21:42] <arrrghhh> herol3oy, you should use do-release-upgrade
[21:42] <viper474> LjL: oh, sorry I though I was in the java room, sorry
[21:42] <Edd> argh
[21:42] <Edd> i cant get my GUI
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> herol3oy: dist-upgrade won't give you natty
[21:42] <lsv> I also use it, but I didn't know I could use it here.
[21:42] <Edd> this is another error with intel
[21:42] <Rehan> ohsix: are you using 11.04 and if so are you using unity or not?
[21:42] <ActionParsnip> Edd: do you boot to a black screen?
[21:43] <drhydralisk> Can someone help me get my headphones working? They were working before I restarted
[21:43] <ohsix> MrMist1: if udevadm test says it's running the helper then it's not udev
[21:43] <LjL> drhydralisk: try starting "alsamixer" and seeing if there is a headphones slider
[21:43] <ohsix> Rehan: not
[21:43] <Glycan_> Where are system settings in 11.4?
[21:43] <herol3oy> arrrghhh: why this ? what is difrennt?
[21:43] <MrMist1> ohsix: but it's not being run..
[21:43] <Edd> ActionParsnip yup :) the tty
[21:44] <eamon> drhydralisk: I will try to help.
[21:44] <drhydralisk> LjL: ok, ill try
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Edd: add the bootoption: nomodeset
[21:44] <ohsix> Glycan_: click on the top right thing with your login name, options are at the bottom of the menu
[21:44] <drhydralisk> eamon: thx, trying alasamixer first hold on
[21:44] <ohsix> MrMist1: right, looking into that now; had to get something to eath
[21:44] <Edd> ActionParsnip it will fix the P{lymouth error ?
[21:44] <Glycan_> ohsix: Thank you
[21:44] <eamon> drhydralisk: that's what I was gonna tell you to try :)
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Glycan_: press ALT+F2 and type the thing you want to run, it will suggest things as you type
[21:44] <ActionParsnip> Edd: should do
[21:44] <Edd> let's try
[21:45] <eamon> drhydralisk: look for master and PCM. Make sure both of those are not muted.
[21:45] <ebiester> Howdy all. My xorg.conf is broken without backup. I want to regenerate, but the only thing I saw while googling was uninstalling xorg and reinstalling/dpkg-reconfigure. Is there a less drastic option?
[21:45] <herol3oy> what's the diffrent between do-release-upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade?????
[21:45] <oneliner> buahaha, evolution is trying to deal with 6 gigs of mail
[21:45] <helio_> anajulia
[21:45] <kwrite> I can't see the b43 drivers in additional drivers. I installed fwcutter, and the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer just like I did in Ubuntu 10.10. I got it working then. Any ideas?
[21:45] <oneliner> its actually getting there :)
[21:45] <ohsix> MrMist1: if you do "DEVNAME=/dev/sdd /lib/udev/hdparm" does it apply your settings to sdd?
[21:45] <MrMist1> ohsix: I'm really grateful for the help, but I don't want to keep you from eating
[21:45] <cousin_mario> ActionParsnip: it shows no icon
[21:45] <ohsix> ebiester: move it out of the way
[21:46] <ohsix> MrMist1: already ate, forgot i was helping someone :o
[21:46] <drhydralisk> eamon: there is no master thing, only PCM (which was not muted)
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> ebiester: boot to root recovery mode and run: Xorg -configure and it will make a vanilla file, you can copy it to /etc/X11 and it may help
[21:46] <ohsix> ebiester: you shouldn't need an xorg.conf
[21:46] <ebiester> ohsix: I'm currently running without any xorg.conf. :)
[21:46] <Edd> ActionParsnip: unknow boot option 'nomodeset'
[21:46] <ohsix> ebiester: welcome to this century ;] what do you need a .conf for?
[21:46] <ActionParsnip> Edd: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-fix-ubuntu-10-04-lts-lucid-blank-screen-at-startup.html
[21:46] <Galvatron> ebieste: What is your video card?
[21:47] <arrrghhh> herol3oy, i suggest you read the manpage.  if you have we can discuss it.
[21:47] <Edd> ActionParsnip lucid fix problem will solve natty's ?
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: ubuntu server uses smb.conf to configure shares....
[21:47] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hmm... interesting. When I call "sudo DEVNAME=/dev/sdd /lib/udev/hdparm" I get "No disk enabled. Exiting"
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> Edd: yes it should help
[21:47] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: what does that have to do with anything?
[21:47] <eamon> drhydralisk: Are you sure there was no master? What was the firstone, on the very left?
[21:47] <ohsix> MrMist1: eh ok, with sudo you need to do sudo sh -c 'DEVNAME=/dev/sda /lib/udev/hdparm'
[21:47] <drhydralisk> eamon: Headphon
[21:47] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: well in this century people use ubuntu server, so "what do you need a .conf for" is one reply
[21:48] <eamon> ebiester: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" should do it
[21:48] <ebiester> ohsix: I have a new laptop that has two separate video cards, so I can't tell if it's running on the intel or the nvidia chipset right now. However, when I upgraded to 11.04, I got a popup that said my video card wasn't powerful enough to run unity.
[21:48] <MrMist1> ohsix: I tried doing a "sudo sh -" first as well, and calling it without sudo... same result
[21:48] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: point of fact, he was asking about xorg.conf
[21:48] <ebiester> Which... seems a bit silly with a 2 month old laptop
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: my monitor needs xorg.conf too
[21:48] <lsv> ok one more question.  How can I change my start up setting so Ubuntu starts in text mode?
[21:48] <MrMist1> ohsix: eeeh... "sudo su -" not "sudo sh -"
[21:48] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i really don't care, this isn't helping this person
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> lsv: add the boot option "text"
[21:48] <Augustuen> ohsix: I get warning: macro `AM_PATH_GTL` not found in library
[21:48] <rgr> wow, is he STILL spouting nonsense about not needing an xorg,conf? Streuth.
[21:48] <ohsix> MrMist1: sudo -- sh -c 'DEVNAME=/dev/sda /lib/udev/hdparm' agh ;]
[21:48] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: neither is asking why do they need a .conf
[21:49] <pattysmatty> what's an rss program?
[21:49] <arrrghhh> herol3oy, basically dist-upgrade prepares your system for an distro upgrade.  it removes obsolete packages, unlike a regular upgrade command.
[21:49] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i'm at my wits end, i'm asking why he needs a conf so i can tell him how to regenerate it. seriously back off
[21:49] <Edd> ActionParsnip i read the site, this is not my error
[21:49] <lsv> ActionParsnip: where would I change that?  In grub?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> pattysmatty: do you want to know what rss is or do you want to know some possible app names ?
[21:49] <Edd> my error is : i login to tty no GUI
[21:49] <Augustuen> pattysmatt: an RSS program gets a feed from a server, where for example a website updates you on new articles and such
[21:49] <pattysmatty> ActionParsnip, the latter
[21:49] <Edd> erro: mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth
[21:49] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: if he has an exceptional situataion and needs one, guess what! he needs one
[21:49] <drhydralisk> pattysmath: what do you mean, "what is an rss program" or what is a good client to use?
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> lsv: yes add it in /etc/default/grub   in the quotes with: quiet splash
[21:49] <eamon> rgr: who are you referring to?
[21:49] <ohsix> ebiester: ok
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: then you answered your own question
[21:50] <helo_> anyone know how to force banshee to download cover art? the extension says it automatically runs, but it isn't on one machine, and is on the other
[21:50] <ebiester> ActionParsnip. I assumed I needed one because I've always had one since '97 and when there was an xconfigurator. I'm not wedded to having one, but right now, flash is having trouble and unity won't run, so I assumed there was a problem.
[21:50] <pattysmatty> drhydralisk, the programs i can use to follow rss
[21:50] <ohsix> ebiester: either video card you are using should work with unity, something else is going on
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> pattysmatty: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/list-of-rss-readers-available-in-ubuntu.html
[21:50] <MrMist1> ohsix: Identical results, all of them
[21:50] <MrMist1> ohsix: "No disk enabled. Exiting"
[21:50] <ohsix> MrMist1: paste your hdparm.conf to a pastebin
[21:50] <lsv> ActionParsnip: I see... Thanks a bunch!
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> lsv: you will need to run:  sudo update-grub   after adding it
[21:50] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: he doesn't have an exceptional situation, he has a vga switcheroo
[21:50] <MrMist1> ohsix: It's nothing in it almost
[21:51] <drhydralisk> pattysmatty: don't rule out Google Reader
[21:51] <LjL> pattysmatty: also, gpodder, yarssr, firefox-sage, canto, xpn  —  GNOME: liferea, straw, evolution-rss  —  GNUstep: rssreader.app  —  KDE: knode, akregator  —  console: snownews, newsbeuter, rsstail, olive, nrss
[21:51] <hihihi100> i can see the log while my machine boots, like the whole screen was a terminal, how do I get a better looking screen during booting? its before I am asked to choose a user and password
[21:51] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: now kindly do without the interjections of opinion, i'm gonna write you off entirely if you keep it up
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: your call
[21:51] <pattysmatty> thanks all
[21:51] <pattysmatty> big help :)
[21:51] <MrMist1> ohsix: hmm... I've got an idea..
[21:52] <ebiester> ohsix: Sometimes I think a decade+ of unix experience gets in my way with ubuntu. :) -- what would be the best route for debugging this?
[21:52] <ohsix> rgr: again, #ubuntu-offtopic, if you have anything to say; lets make it something to help people, that's the entire idea of this channel
[21:52] <eamon> hihihi100: would you like the screen to be blank until the username and password?
[21:52]  * kath ....tryed to upgrade from 10.10 to 11.04...  At the last 2min off upgrade, before Recycle.... it just stoped...  after 15min I turned off my hp comp... but yea.. now ater 1houer ..i sitt with 10.10.... and a prim part with unfinished 11.04
[21:52] <MrMist1> ohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601466/
[21:52] <scoffin> is it possible to move the "top of screen" app menus back into the app window?  [11.04, unity]
[21:52] <eamon> good for kath
[21:52] <lsv> ActionParsnip: like this >> GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="text quiet splash" ?
[21:52] <ohsix> ebiester: well, first, open a terminal and paste the output of glxinfo to paste.ubuntu.com
[21:52] <Snakkah> Can anyone tell me how to make ALL tooltips (the little black descriptors that appear in menus and applications) transparent? For now, it seems to only apply to my panel menus.
[21:52] <MrMist1> I'm commenting out the "quiet" line now... wonder if that's the issue
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> lsv: looks great
[21:53] <hiexpo> is there a wya to passwordfolders
[21:53] <jrib> scoffin: yes, remove indicator-appmenu iirc
[21:53] <kath> .. eamon f you..lol ;)..... not good at all......
[21:53] <hiexpo> ^way
[21:53] <hihihi100> eamon, id like to see the usplash bar at least
[21:53] <Soothsayer> anyone running gnom3 on ubuntu 11.04?
[21:53] <ohsix> MrMist1: you have a stray } :O
[21:53] <kath> ... any one that has upgraded to 11.04
[21:53] <crystal-cola> A window went under the bar at the top my screen!!! I can't get it out!!!
[21:53] <hihihi100> eamon, together with the ubuntu logo
[21:53] <ActionParsnip> hiexpo: you can make the folder owned by your user only, then you will only have access if you chmod 600 it
[21:53] <LjL> crystal-cola: try hitting Alt+F3
[21:53] <ohsix> Soothsayer: gnome3 is only available from a ppa right now, so you won't get much support for it here
[21:53] <andycc> Soothsayer, I did run it for a while, but reverted to Unity.
[21:53] <scoffin> jrib:  sorry, is that an installed package or some setting ?
[21:53] <Dr_Willis> crystal-cola:  hold down alt, click, move it around  is another way
[21:53] <jrib> scoffin: it's a package
[21:53] <crystal-cola> thank you!!
[21:54] <ohsix> Soothsayer: you can try just asking your question, but don't expect a lot ;]
[21:54] <MrMist1> ohsix: argh... still same result after commenting out the line
[21:54] <notlistening> Right i have a bit of a problem with compiz and the negative plugin, I can't get new windows to be generated in negative and ideas?
[21:54] <hiexpo> ActionParsnip, thanks
[21:54] <ebiester> ohsix: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601467/
[21:54] <scoffin> ok, I will try it......   IMHO: that "mac" style is not compatible with focus-follows-mouse
[21:54] <BlouBlou> anyone knows how to install openarena without installing 'ioquake3'? it seems it's a dependency, but in 10.10 was not
[21:54] <kath> havent been on irc since 2000......  but still almost the same..
[21:55] <ohsix> MrMist1: you need to read the spindown time with a command other than hdparm -I, -I was just to check to see if aam/apm was on, which can impact drives spinning down
[21:55] <Soothsayer> andycc, why did you revert?
[21:55] <ohsix> MrMist1: sorry if i wasn't explicit before, i thought you added apm settings to allow spindowns
[21:55] <rgr> ebiester: I missed your card. Which is it?
[21:55] <kath> ... So BlouBlou................... the 10.10 was better?.....
[21:55] <MrMist1> ohsix: I did, but since the file isn't being called anyway
[21:55] <eamon> hihihi100: have a looky here http://lmgtfy.com/?q=custom+boot+screen+ubuntu
[21:55] <MrMist1> ohsix: I removed them again. Less is more
[21:56] <Soothsayer> ohsix, :-P I'm having some issues with Unity.. tell me how would I go about this? I have this java which I've placed in /opt/phpstorm/ . So I execute /opt/phpstorm/bin/run.sh to run the app... how do I make this accessible to the launcher ?
[21:56] <MrMist1> ohsix: I had "apm = 127" before, but it did nothing.
[21:56] <ohsix> MrMist1: try the DEVNAME thing again with the stray } removed
[21:56] <Snakkah> EDIT: Nevermind, got it.
[21:56] <lsv> ActionParsnip: does changing that line in /etc/default/grub changes how I would log into the windows partition? (a little ashamed of this)
[21:56] <ADSDS> hi
[21:57] <MrMist1> ohsix: aaah... there's a stray }?? Didn't see that one..
[21:57] <ohsix> ebiester: ok so it's not using either of your video cards, but vesa or something; did you use nomodeset when you booted or otherwise have to do anything special to get it to start?
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> lsv: no, the options are only added to the linux kernels as far as I know
[21:57] <ADSDS> whats the new ubuntu
[21:57] <ohsix> Soothsayer: no clue on that one, you can create a .desktop file and put it in the right place; that's all the old panel "create launcher" thing did
[21:57] <Edd> mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth <<< any idea ?
[21:57] <tarvid> need suggestion on video accelerator for Intel Mobile 4 in an Acer 7736x-4088 laptop
[21:57] <ezro> who know where is the theme folder?
[21:57] <herol3oy> which one is better?  do-release-upgrade  or download the ubuntu11.4 ISO file and then mount the ISO file and >>>gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade"   ????
[21:58] <ADSDS> whats the new ubuntu
[21:58] <ohsix> Edd: if you don't have a video card or have one without kms, that's a normal message
[21:58] <jamie4> Any way to have the [FILE] [EDIT] etc menus to always show on the bar in Unity?
[21:58] <MrMist1> ohsix: Now we're talking.. it's being run now...
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> ezro:  system wide? or user specific?
[21:58] <rgr> ADSDS: Ask a Q if you have one ;)
[21:58] <silvrax> i just upgraded to 11.04, now when I hoover some buttons/menus etc and a tooltip appears, my mouse cursor itself actally dissappears, which i find very annoying. Does anyone know what is wrong there? (i'm using gnome, not unity)
[21:58] <Dr_Willis>  /usr/share/themes/
[21:58] <Dr_Willis> or /home/username/.themes
[21:58] <Soothsayer> ohsix, ye i managed to move it into unity launcher.. and it works.. but the problem is now when the app launches, it doesn't appear in the unity taskbar!
[21:58] <ezro> thanks
[21:58] <ohsix> rgr: even when you have the potential to answer ... D:
[21:58] <ebiester> ohsix: The nvidia is Nvidia GeForce GT 540M -- I had to look it up. But the series of events is. 1. Install 10.10. 2. try to install the proprietary extension, which kills X. 3. After trying to get the open source nv or intel working, delete xorg.conf. 4. Upgrade to Natty
[21:59] <lsv> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks, will reboot after some update finishes.  Thanks again.
[21:59] <ohsix> ADSDS: 11.04, it was released a few days ago
[21:59] <Soothsayer> ohsix, that's so bizarre cause how would I find that window :-|
[21:59] <rgr> ebiester: have you ran nvidia-settings or sgfxi?
[21:59] <Edd> ohsix i used ubuntu since v.7
[21:59] <herol3oy> which one is better? do-release-upgrade or download the ubuntu11.4 ISO file and then mount the ISO file and >>>gksu "sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade" ????	
[21:59] <Edd> never had this error
[21:59] <Edd> on the same laptop
[21:59] <kjxl9> hey guys, i need some help with terminal
[21:59] <ohsix> Soothsayer: ah you'll have to look at other .desktop files that do, something with bamfdaemon does that i think
[22:00] <kjxl9> it's asking me for my password but nothing i type comes up
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> herol3oy: the upgrade online will use the most recent debs, using the alternate ISO willonly give you the version on the cD, you will then need to upgrade online
[22:00] <hauptstrasse> herol3oy, it doesn't matter. if you upgrade over the network, you'll get the latest packages, which might not be the case if you use the cdrom.
[22:00] <ActionParsnip> kjxl9: it doesn't give feedback,just type it and hit enter
[22:00] <ohsix> ebiester: hm ok so you need to nuke the bits of the nvidia driver left around, did you install the .bin from nvidia or something from a package manager?
[22:00] <lsv> kjxl9: that's normal. Just type the password and press enter
[22:00] <Soothsayer> ohsix, why does it have to be so complicated?
[22:00] <cousin_mario> bbl
[22:00] <kjxl9> thanks
[22:01] <notlistening> can anyone else get negative to work in 11.04 for me
[22:01] <ohsix> Soothsayer: heh it may not be consoling,  but it's actually simpler now
[22:01] <herol3oy> thanks guys!
[22:01] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it's at least defined and theres software to do it for you :\
[22:01] <notlistening> if you turn if onto all windows do new windows inherit negativity?
[22:02]  * herol3oy bye
[22:02] <noob25> Hello guys I've just installed Ubuntu 11.04 and I installed an application called xsensors but it's only showing me the temperature of 1 thing and I have no idea of what. It should be showing me 1x Internal, 1x CPU, 1x GPU, 2x HDD. Are there any tools built into Ubuntu so I can check whether  it's a problem with Ubuntu or the software?
[22:02] <Soothsayer> ohsix, im still confused as to what to do. I believe this is going to happen for all java programs then.
[22:02] <hauptstrasse> noob25, acpi -t
[22:02] <ohsix> notlistening: theres no distinction for new windows, it's done as they're all rendered
[22:02] <Dr_Willis> notlistening:  I thought it was a 'per window' or 'entire desktop' setting.
[22:02] <asdfasdfasdfasdf> hello is it possible to add a song to loved list at last.fm with Exaile music player? according to this https://bugs.launchpad.net/exaile/+bug/739264 there seem to be a plugin to do that, but i can't find it anywhere :(
[22:02] <ohsix> notlistening: so if you do per window it's just that window, or the entire desktop it's the whole thing
[22:02] <Acriax> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=217328 <-- the last 3 comments on this page made my day :D
[22:03] <Dr_Willis> notlistening:  some compiz settings/plugins can break unity. so be carefull with them :)
[22:03] <notlistening> ohsix, well thats what i mean
[22:03] <ohsix> Soothsayer: if the launcher is right it should work as expected
[22:03] <notlistening> ohsix, open a new app :P
[22:03] <ohsix> notlistening: if it's to the desktop it still applies to the new window, but let me try here to confirm
[22:03] <Edd> ive never been disappointed with linux till this day
[22:03] <ebiester> ohsix: I installed it from the popup in ubuntu. (Sorry, that was a few weeks ago, I don't have the exact other than remember it suggesting proprietary drivers.) I got rid of all of that, but natty seems to have brought some of it back. Do I just purge all of this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/601469/
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Edd: do you not mean ubuntu?
[22:04] <ohsix> notlistening: wow! that's a bug haha
[22:04] <MrMist1> ohsix: Seems like it's working now for the two drives I have mountet, but the backup-drive which I'm not mounting won't go into standby mode. Any idea why? Can I place it in standby mode during boot?
[22:04] <noob25> hauptstrasse I have to install it, could this be a reason why it's not reading or is this just a separate tool?
[22:04] <ohsix> notlistening: please report it so i can mark it as affecting me as well, i use it often
[22:04] <Edd> ActionParsnip i mean ubuntu ! wt' sthis error regarding plymouth
[22:04] <Edd> never had it!
[22:04] <andeeeuk> is there any way with 11.04 to add a mail notification for thunderbird?
[22:04] <notlistening> ohsix, I have a long list of them :)
[22:04] <ActionParsnip> Edd: you don't have to use plymouth
[22:04] <Rehan_> anytime I fill out the information in the About Me section in ubuntu and hit close, it never saves anything. Why is that?
[22:04] <ohsix> ebiester: ah ok that was probably jockey and it shouldn't have broken anything you can't just remove, sec
[22:04] <notlistening> ohsix, I will post the report soon
[22:04] <andeeeuk> on the menu bar
[22:04] <Edd> ActionParsnip how can i get rid of it ?
[22:05] <ohsix> notlistening: post a bug instead, on launchpad.net
[22:05] <ohsix> notlistening: that's a functionality change from .8 that i'm pretty sure wasn't intended
[22:05] <Soothsayer> ohsix, the application executes fine.. just that it does not show as an icon in the left unity taskbar
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Edd: remove the bootoptions: quiet splash      and you will boot in text mode
[22:05] <hauptstrasse> noob25, its a seperate tool
[22:05] <rgr> andeeeuk: use a third party mail notifier.
[22:05] <Edd> ActionParsnip i booted in text mode, i want GUI
[22:05] <ohsix> Soothsayer: then it's missing some entries in the .desktop file to make that work
[22:05] <andeeeuk> on the menu bar?
[22:05] <ActionParsnip> Edd: yes it will boot in text mode, then load the desktop
[22:05] <noob25> hauptstrasse ok thanks
[22:06] <rgr> possibly something like gnubiff. There are multiple possibilities.
[22:06] <Edd> ActionParsnip u mean via: startx ?
[22:06] <lsv> me bye
[22:06]  * lsv bye
[22:06] <ohsix> rgr: who are you speaking to?
[22:06] <andeeeuk> rgr which app would you recomend?
[22:06] <jamie4> Question about Unity - anyone hacking it yet?
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Edd: gdm will load once the system has fully booted
[22:06] <lsv> quit
[22:06] <Soothsayer> ohsix, ok see I created a new "Menu Item" in the "Main Menu" dialog in the Control Centre.
[22:06] <Edd> ActionParsnip nothing is loading
[22:06] <ActionParsnip> Edd: you just won't see plymouth
[22:06] <Edd> :/
[22:06] <godMitax> anybody can help me installing bt4 r2 tools on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[22:06] <Edd> that's the point
[22:07] <godMitax> anybody can help me installing bt4 r2 tools on ubuntu 11.04 ?
[22:07] <andeeeuk> rgr which app would you recomend for mail notifications??
[22:07] <Soothsayer> ohsix, http://i.imgur.com/doyxY.png
[22:07] <ebiester> ohsix: If you said something, could you repeat it? I just accidentally cleared the window.
[22:07] <starredsteria> Hey.... has anyone had any issues starting ubuntu after installing nvidia drivers - for 11.04?
[22:08] <Soothsayer> that's all the options I get @ ohsix
[22:08] <Guest46633> Is there some sort of firewall on by defualt in Ubuntu?  I could ssh in just fine when I set it up, now I've flown away and can't ssh in from anywhere else.  It's directly connected to a cable modem.
[22:08] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | Guest46633
[22:08] <LjL> Guest46633: yeah these days there is u. "sudo ufw allow port 22" or something should free your ssh
[22:08] <rgr> wow. firestarter is MUCH better than those suggestions.
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> Edd: then boot with plymouth loading and press ESC and you will see the boot messages, what are the last few messages?
[22:09] <ADSDS> whats the new ubuntu#
[22:09] <LjL> rgr: it's also deprecated
[22:09] <arrrghhh> firestarter is deprecated?
[22:09] <rgr> When did that happen?
[22:09] <arrrghhh> bummer, i used to like that when i needed it.
[22:09] <ActionParsnip> rgr: firestarter is just abother gui to iptables
[22:09] <arrrghhh> ActionParsnip, indeed like any of those
[22:09] <rgr> first I heard of I must say. Damn good UI.
[22:09] <Rehan_> anytime I fill out the information in the About Me section in ubuntu and hit close, it never saves anything. Why is that?
[22:09] <rgr> I know what it is.
[22:09] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, your on... I have a weird idea...
[22:09] <ohsix> rgr: you need to keep your opinions to yourself, this is a HELP CHANNEL
[22:10] <rgr> But deprecated? Why? Its just a easy way to set up iptables.
[22:10] <JunK-Y> how can i disable visual effect under 11.04? the tab visual effect isnt there anymore.
[22:10] <Edd> ActionParsnip me see wait
[22:10] <LjL> rgr, arrrghhh: heard them saying that in -ops. searching logs.
[22:10] <ohsix> rgr: ufw has simple allow/deny rules and hooks for more complicated rules that wont be clobbered by user changes
[22:10] <andeeeuk> has switch application in 11.04 been removed? really weird alt-tab does not work :s#
[22:10] <rgr> I never heard of a GUI tool that good being deprecated. I'll take a peek as I always recommend it : nice logging too.
[22:10] <ohsix> rgr: you could argue that average people shouldn't be setting up more than allow/deny rules anyways; and neither should software packages
[22:11] <LjL> rgr: ah well it's been at version 1.0.3 for forever, apparently
[22:11] <Edd> ActionParsnip: mountall: Disconnected from Plymouth
[22:11] <ohsix> rgr: "that good" is your opinion, it is not notable here
[22:11] <Cale> JunK-Y: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects?  I'm on 10.10, but I don't think the place has changed.
[22:11] <ohsix> ebiester: let me think a bit, and i didn't say anything
[22:11] <Guest46633> ljl: but i could connect via ssh locally.. does the default fw care about source IP?
[22:11] <snake_> sera serina
[22:11] <Elad123> Hi all, I just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 (using unity), I'm using 2 monitor, the problem is that the notify-osd is on the secondary monitor (nvidia video card), someone can help me please?
[22:11] <rgr> but nothing has destaically changed in iptables.
[22:11] <rgr> heh. good typo..
[22:11] <LjL> Guest46633: i think it does
[22:11] <ebiester> ohsix: no worries. Thanks. :)
[22:11] <guntbert> !backtrack | godMitax
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> Edd: anything above that?
[22:11] <rgr> Guest46633: yes
[22:12] <silvrax> as soon as a tooltip is displayes, my mouse cursos dissapers, is that normal?
[22:12] <Guest46633> ljl: wow i hope you're wrong.. i set up a system 1500 miles from home and i'm half way accross the country now.
[22:12] <Cale> silvrax: no
[22:12] <ohsix> Guest46633: default fw has no policy
[22:12] <LjL> rgr: well, the community docs only really say "Note: Although Firstarter is fully functional, active development ended in 2005 with version 1.0.3. For an overview of alternative applications, see Firewall.", so perhaps deprecated is a strong word
[22:12] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I have an idea...
[22:12] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: sup?
[22:12] <Guest46633> ohsix: so its all open by default?
[22:12] <rgr> Guest46633: did you also install banip or something?
[22:12] <JunK-Y> cale: yes it changed.
[22:12] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, could my mic be blacklisted? and... not loaded?
[22:12] <ohsix> Guest46633: unless it's different in -server, that's all i know
[22:13] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: not sure man, i'm rubbish with sound issues
[22:13] <silvrax> Cale: tnx.. any clue why it may happen?
[22:13] <ybit_> hey guys, i've got a problm with ubuntu not being able to process all my keystrokes, anyone know of a similar bu?
[22:13] <kwrite> Does anyone know why B43 is not showing up in Additional Drivers? I can only see STA.
[22:13] <JunK-Y> theres just Theme,Background and Font
[22:13] <ybit_> bug*
[22:13] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, I tried a wired mic and it didn't work...
[22:13] <jamie4> Any way to have the [FILE] [EDIT] etc menus to always show on the bar in Unity?
[22:13] <rgr> firestarter has frozen. Its not deprecated from what I can see.
[22:13] <Cale> silvrax: No idea really... are you using compiz? It has lots of crazy options and that... might be one of them. I don't really know.
[22:13] <ohsix> kwrite: b43 is the included driver, STA is the vendor one, did jockey used to offer the b43 driver? it only ever needed the firmware, which you can get by installing b43-fwcutter and running the included script
[22:13] <ybit_> it just happened randomly
[22:14] <Rehan_> does anyone else have this problem? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/752452
[22:14] <ohsix> rgr: that's great, ubuntu uses ufw; thanks
[22:14] <Edd> ActionParsnip fsk succeeding nothing more
[22:14] <silvrax> Cale: no compiz...
[22:14] <Witchsong_> I have installed ubuntuone-indicator, but the indicator doesn't show up at the bar.
[22:14] <kwrite> oshix: What script?
[22:14] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: how come you never chime in to undo the mess done to peoples computers by the nvidia drivers like ebiester ?
[22:14] <Witchsong_> Anyone know if this is just a bug or if I might have done it wrong somehow?
[22:14] <notlistening> ohsiz, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/774444
[22:14] <kwrite> oshix: Jockey offered the driver in 10.10 and I got it up and running then
[22:14] <rcconf> what is the device for DVD drive'
[22:14] <Chrom_> hi
[22:14] <rcconf> ?
[22:14] <Cale> silvrax: Apparently there's something called "unclutter" which does that
[22:15] <Cale> silvrax: might want to check if it's installed
[22:15] <kermit> rgr: i did not install anything really, its just for my grandma
[22:15] <ohsix> kwrite: i don't have it installed here, but dpkg -L b43-fwcutter will list the files after it's installed, the script is the one ending in .sh
[22:15] <ubuntu> I need help loading the file manager as root
[22:15] <Elad1234> Hi all, I just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 (using unity), I'm using 2 monitor, the problem is that the notify-osd is on the secondary monitor (nvidia video card), someone can help me please?
[22:15] <adzy> hello
[22:15] <rcconf> ?/dev/cdrom
[22:15] <ohsix> notlistening: thanks
[22:15] <Chrom_> is anyone using gnome-classic in 11.04? there's a very annoying bug that doesn't let you trash items using the trash applet. Can someone confirm this?
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[22:15] <twiggydanger> Why does gksu nautilis not do anything?
[22:16] <LjL> ohsix: now i think that was gratuitous. i haven't seen ActionParsnip talking to you in a while. at this point i'm sick and tired of seeing you three bickering. a mute is going to come next, so all three of you, really, please behave and have a little tolerance for each other
[22:16] <silvrax> Cale: yeah, thats what google told me too, but its not installed
[22:16] <Cale> silvrax: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unclutter
[22:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello
[22:16] <Cale> hmm
[22:16] <notlistening> ohsix, do you ever use the enhanced zoom feature?
[22:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello?
[22:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need help
[22:16] <Whinis> did anyone else get a bumbed grub on upgrade?
[22:16] <kwrite> oshix I see some files and directories but theres no scripts
[22:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need help
[22:16] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hmm... Can't get sdd into sleep mode, but the two other drives works perfectly. Is it because I don't mount it somehow? I don't need to have it mounted..
[22:16] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need help
[22:16] <Elad1234> Hi all, I just upgraded to ubuntu 11.04 (using unity), I'm using 2 monitor, the problem is that the notify-osd is on the secondary monitor (nvidia video card), someone can help me please?
[22:16] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: must've missed the question, watching some youtube fun and games now so popping in and out
[22:17] <Ultimate_Chaos> i need help
[22:17] <Elad1234> Ultimate_Chaos, ?
[22:17] <Whinis> ultimate_chaos we see you
[22:17] <silvrax> Cale: i think unclutter hides the cursor after some timeout, mine only goes away when i tooltip is displayed...
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> !ask | Ultimate_Chaos
[22:17] <christhecoolboy> ActionParsnip, do you know anyone who might be able to help me more?!
[22:17] <LjL> Ultimate_Chaos: please don't spam. you've already done something like that the last time you joined. say things ONCE.
[22:17] <ActionParsnip> christhecoolboy: guys in here may
[22:17] <LjL> Ultimate_Chaos: you're currently muted, i'll unmute you when you acknowledge this.
[22:17] <ohsix> notlistening: i did yea, but i haven't been able to use it satisfactorily with compiz .9, very very very awful slow
[22:17] <merlin2049er> hey, just upgraded to narty
[22:17] <rcconf>  how do I create a virtual drive in UBuntu?
[22:17] <rgr> Elad1234: there are logged bugs with notify-osd on dual screen. not least it being invisible.
[22:17] <Ellipsis753> is there a guide to removing the new bar on the left hand size and making ubuntu 11.04 not look like 11.04 somewhere? I've tried to grow to like it but I just can't use it, the lack of an open windows list is a real blow.
[22:17] <merlin2049er> is there a driver for nvidia
[22:18] <sdegutis> why is he muted?
[22:18] <sdegutis> no comprendo
[22:18] <LjL> sdegutis: because he asked for helps like 5 times in a row
[22:18] <twiggydanger> Why does gksu nautilis not do anything?
[22:18] <Whinis> Ellipsis753 at login select ubuntu classic at bottom
[22:18] <ohsix> LjL: i just figured after being so hawkins over xorg.conf he'd be really on top of things, but i guess that's just me
[22:18] <sdegutis> oh ok
[22:18] <sdegutis> comprendo.
[22:18] <adzy> how do i make someones name red when i reply to them?
[22:18] <LjL> adzy: just include their nickname
[22:18] <LjL> !tab > adzy    (adzy, see the private message from ubottu)
[22:18] <kwrite> oshix: I remember something saying cant find firmware ucode 15 or something to that effect. I read that that meant the driver's installed but not the firmware. b43-fwcutter -l
[22:18] <kwrite> oshix says: b43		wl_apsta.o		478.104		FW15
[22:18] <notlistening> ohsix, well unity doesn't play nicely with it now :(, can't access the menu when zooming
[22:18] <adzy> !tab
[22:18] <Soothsayer> ohsix, ok now it all of a sudden starts appearing in the unity taskbar
[22:18] <ohsix> MrMist1: you shouldn't need it mounted,  but your firmware might ignore what you tell it, or it might be entangled with the other power/noise settings like i said earlier
[22:18] <Ultimate_Chaos> sry bout earlier
[22:19] <ActionParsnip> adzy: if you type their nick at the start of aline it will highlight for them
[22:19] <ohsix> notlistening: ah i didn't try it with unity
[22:19] <rgr> depends on which irc client you use
[22:19] <adzy> LjL, Just lik this?
[22:19] <Ultimate_Chaos> it decided to run my mass hug script without permission
[22:19] <LjL> adzy: yep
[22:19] <Elad1234> rgr, the problem occur only when I'm using unity (in the gnome-classic mode = gnome-panel it works fine)
[22:19] <Ellipsis753> Whinis, ahh, thank god. Am I alone in not liking all of the new changes?
[22:19] <adzy> LjL: thanks ;)
[22:19] <Ultimate_Chaos> well
[22:19] <ohsix> kwrite: the firmware name might have changed, but on my netbook where it was required i don't recall ever having to rename it, dunno what to say
[22:20] <Ultimate_Chaos> my sidebar wont work and i dont know how to start it
[22:20] <twiggydanger> Can someone please help me: Why does gksu nautilis not do anything?
[22:20] <ohsix> kwrite: i could just be misremembering and i've been using the STA driver all along though ;]
[22:20] <Whinis> Ellipsis753 I don't mind it however after messing with settings for a few hours its not that bad
[22:20] <notlistening> ohsix, I would like to adopt unity but it is giving more heaches that its worth with the features of compiz i use regularly
[22:20] <ohsix> twiggydanger: natilus
[22:20] <sdegutis> hello
[22:20] <sdegutis> <3
[22:20] <eamon> adzy: you only need to type "LJ" then tab and the the program will complete the name for you. If many names start the same press tab many times
[22:20] <rgr> becuase there is not such command as nautilis
[22:20] <ohsix> twiggydanger: you don't want to run it as root though ...
[22:20] <sourcemaker> can I re-crypt an existing encrypted file system (LUKS) with an other encryption method?
[22:20] <kwrite> oshix: Np thanks for your help :)
[22:20] <Ellipsis753> Whinis, ahh, what did you change/get rid of?
[22:20] <twiggydanger> ohsix: oh ok thanks
[22:20] <adzy> eamon, thanks for that ;)
[22:20] <kad_> what is Ubuntu Unity?
[22:20] <bobbycvi> hello
[22:20] <merlin2049er> nvidia driver for 11.04?
[22:20] <ohsix> rgr: address the person you're talking to please, there's a lot of people talking
[22:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> plz wait
[22:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> my system
[22:21] <eamon> kad_: If the GUI tthat the new version of ubuntu uses
[22:21] <alienkid10> how can I get gnome-shell to be default shell in 11.04?
[22:21] <bobbycvi> from where i can find original sources.list for 11.04
[22:21] <bobbycvi> ?
[22:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> ubuntu 11.04 beta 1
[22:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> i know it has been released
[22:21] <Sledge> sudo apt-get install gnome2
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> merlin2049er: which nvidia chip?
[22:21] <merlin2049er> 470
[22:21] <kad_> eamon,  ah Ubuntu 11.0.4 is the new Design called: ubuntu Unity?
[22:21] <Ultimate_Chaos> should i upgrade?
[22:21] <ActionParsnip> Ultimate_Chaos: you have typed a lot and so far told us nothing
[22:21] <merlin2049er> gtx470
[22:21] <adzy> if i want to fresh install new ubuntu over 10.04, when i format the partition will it remove grub too?
[22:21] <bennipropper> hi
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Ultimate_Chaos: its released so is officially released so is 'stable'
[22:22] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | alienkid10
[22:22] <christhecoolboy> Ok... The Problem I have is that my mic is not listed after the 11.04 upgrade, it now has "Internal Audio Analogue Stereo" Instead... I have a MSI AE2020, The Sound card is a Nvidia MCP79 and the computer requires Snd-hda-intel to have Auto to have sound, loads more were tested in 10.10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/ should give you more Information that can help fix it, the Mic is built in to the computer, P
[22:22] <christhecoolboy> lease can someone help as I need my mic often for podcasting, Thanks for any help I do get...
[22:22] <eamon> kad_: Yes, it's the biggest new feature
[22:22] <Ultimate_Chaos> THE SIDEBAR  for application navigation does not start
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> merlin2049er: sudo apt-get Install nvidia-current
[22:22] <sakuramboo> ive installed a few games, but they do not show up in the games menu in unity, is there a way to manually add them?
[22:22] <kad_> eamon, amazing =)
[22:22] <bennipropper> does anyone know how to make my steelseries headset work on ubuntu 11.04???
[22:22] <eamon> merlin2049er: The newest nvidia blob would be what you want
[22:22] <Ultimate_Chaos> I look for it and i cant find out how to start it
[22:22] <ActionParsnip> Ultimate_Chaos: if you don't have 3D accelleration and compiz running it will not start
[22:22] <kwrite> oshix: Found out STA is doing what I want it to do now. Idk why it does now and didn't in 10.10/ :)
[22:22] <Ultimate_Chaos> ohhhhhh
[22:22] <Ultimate_Chaos> 3d acceleration
[22:22] <twiggydanger> ohsix: I do want to run nautilis as root and "gksu natilus" does the same thing as "gksu nautilis": NOTHING
[22:23] <Ultimate_Chaos> i disabled that
[22:23] <whinis> Ellipsis753 mostly I just fixed some of the issues with compiz like reenabling cube and my other plugins, got alot of programs working again that broke, and changed some basic settings
[22:23] <merlin2049er> k
[22:23] <merlin2049er> does it work well
[22:23] <adzy> if i want to fresh install new ubuntu over 10.04, when i format the partition will it remove grub too???
[22:23] <ActionParsnip> Ultimate_Chaos: unity needs it
[22:23] <hobbel> Major problem here, I have files disappearing on a fresh install of 11.04. Space remains filled though. No clue on the problem
[22:23] <alienkid10> Jordan_U: so should switch to something else then?
[22:23] <ohsix> kwrite: ;] i use STA because my card eventually starts acting like the chip is overheating with the open driver, drops connection and stuff
[22:23] <JWay> using intel gma 3100 and ubuntu 11.04 how come xcompmgr -c will not give me shadows on windows?
[22:23] <RAMPKORV> bah, I hate when Unity's window buttons disappear so you can't move or close your program
[22:23] <starredsteria> Is there any reason as to why ubuntu won't start after installing nvidia drivers?
[22:23] <whinis> Ellipsis753 fixing the nvidia but helped too
[22:23] <kad_> eamon, but the Flash player for 64-bit still contains some problem? because sometimes firefox freeze
[22:23] <starredsteria> I have to do a fresh install... as ubuntu won't load anymore
[22:23] <ohsix> twiggydanger: it's nautilus, but what i'm saying is you probably want to do what you're trying to do some other way, nautilus is a big thing to run as root and mistakes are easy
[22:24] <Ultimate_Chaos> is 2d video acceleration needed with ubuntu?
[22:24] <Ellipsis753> Whinis, ok thanks. I may do that or just end up going to classic. Nvidia was more or less the main reason I updated, 11.04 has a newer driver and doesn't make garbled graphics like the old.
[22:24] <MrMist1> ohsix: Hehe... by mounting the drive through fstab, it now goes into sleep mode. I'm not setting any APM parameter at all in any config. Thanks for all the help by the way
[22:24] <notlistening> Unity good or bad, please give opnions..? ;)
[22:24] <merlin2049er>  sudo apt-get Install nvidia-current doesn't work for me?
[22:24] <Ultimate_Chaos> unity is AWESOME!
[22:24] <yfk> how can I re-enable control-alt-backspace on natty?
[22:24] <ohsix> MrMist1: hm interesting
[22:24] <kwrite> notlistening I tried Gnome3 and It was cool but not what I'd use everyday but I LOVE Unity :P
[22:24] <twiggydanger> ohsix: I want to run it as root because I have a folder with a shitload of files that I need to change ownership of and i don't want to do it one by one
[22:24] <eamon> merlin2049er: the nvidia blob is the official nvidia driver it comes from nvidia so it is the best
[22:24] <whinis> Ellipsis753 ya, I don't use the nouveau driver as I use wine and game alot. Nouveau is bad for gaming where as the Nvidia driver is good for gaming
[22:24] <merlin2049er> how do i install that
[22:24] <Ultimate_Chaos> also it there a way to make it start faster?
[22:25] <ohsix> MrMist1: there were some changes about delayed settings applications with libata way back when, it probably doesn't even try and talk to the drive until it's in use for something
[22:25] <Witchsong_> notlistening, now that I have got used to Unity, I really wouldn't go back to Gnome. :)
[22:25] <Soothsayer> In a dual monitor setup, could some recommend a way to have a launcher/dock in the second monitor?
[22:25] <asdf_msc> Has anyone here gotten WoW to work on 11.04?
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> yfk: its in the keyboard settings under the options button
[22:25] <ChogyDan> yfk: try alt-sysrq-k to kill the xserver
[22:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> i takes 2.782 minutes to start
[22:25] <Ellipsis753> Whinis, yeah, I had Nvidia before the update, I'll still have it now right?
[22:25] <Dave888> asdf_msc: Yap.
[22:25] <tjiggi_fo> !polls | notlistening
[22:25] <ActionParsnip> asdf_msc: check the appdb, there is a guide there
[22:25] <ohsix> MrMist1: if you want your sleep settings to be applied be sure to run whatever you need to with hdparm to tell the drive to save the settings over resets; it still might not do it, but it's the best you can do given the circumstances
[22:25] <yfk> ChogyDan, sysrq?
[22:25] <Ultimate_Chaos> oh nvm
[22:25] <asdf_msc> for 11.04? where?
[22:25] <ohsix> twiggydanger: you can use chown -R ...
[22:25] <whinis> Ellipsis753 maybe, mine broke on update since it was a new kernel and I assume some of the settings changes. I had to uninstall my manual drivers and install nvidia-current
[22:25] <eamon> merlin2049er: follow this guide to use the official nvidia driver https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[22:26] <Ultimate_Chaos> that incrested ram and the 3d and 2d acceleration worked
[22:26] <Ellipsis753> whinis, cool thanks.
[22:26] <Witchsong_> Anyone here using the Ubuntu One Applet Indicator?
[22:26] <notlistening> Oh told off ;)
[22:26] <Ultimate_Chaos> ty you all for now
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | asdf_msc
[22:26] <FearXFactorX> so whats the point of this
[22:26] <yfk> ChogyDan, excellent, it worked
[22:26] <whinis> Ellipsis753 if you have upgraded and didn't have to fix grub good to you though :) mine broke and required a live cd to fix
[22:26] <ChogyDan> yfk: :p
[22:26] <ActionParsnip> FearXFactorX: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[22:26] <ohsix> FearXFactorX: of what? do you have a question?
[22:27] <eamon> !details | FearXFactorX
[22:27] <Ultimate_Chaos> omg that worrrrrrrrked
[22:27] <Ultimate_Chaos> yay sidebar
[22:27] <whinis> How many peoples Grub broke on update
[22:27] <JunK-Y> how can i disable visual effect under 11.04? the tab visual effect isnt there anymore.
[22:27] <Ultimate_Chaos> ya i know
[22:27] <BlouBlou> JunK-Y: metacity --replace
[22:27] <ohsix> whinis: did yours break? it really isn't appropriate to take a poll here; mine didn't break though, fwiw
[22:27] <twiggydanger> ohsix: so the -r will make it apply to everyting in the folder?
[22:28] <manOwl> so i think that the newest release of ubuntu.. combined with the hardware compatibility of linux, the repositories, and stuff... and this new UI
[22:28] <rcconf> JunK-Y: you mean right click desktop background and visual effects tab?
[22:28] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay another problem
[22:28] <manOwl> windows 7 is an inferior OS
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> JunK-Y: press ALT+F2 and run:  metacity --replace
[22:28] <Lxndr> I just upgraded to the newest version of Ubuntu (11.4?) on my laptop, which was previously running 10.10. Unfortunately, the automated upgrade (which is what I tried) seems to have left my laptop almost nonfunctional. It gives me a few errors before just dropping out - 'uvcvideo: failed to query (129) UVC probe control' is one of them. Can anyone help?
[22:28] <asdf_msc> ActionPartnership, i looked there but didn't see anything on ubuntu 11.04 issues
[22:28] <Ultimate_Chaos> with some massive tweaks
[22:28] <manOwl> this is actually the first distribution that is legitimately easier to use than windows
[22:28] <njbair> since my upgrade to Natty, `mplayer dvd://` doesn't work because there's no device at /dev/dvd. I can symlink /dev/sr0 to /dev/dvd, but how do I fix this permanently?
[22:28] <ohsix> twiggydanger: -R, yea, and it will only change the owner, you need to do something else to change the permissions; so it won't clobber any that might have been set on purpose, just the owner
[22:28] <notlistening> ohsix, It was not so much a poll, as i was not counting
[22:28] <Ultimate_Chaos> i got portal 2 to to run in ubuntu
[22:28] <Witchsong_> JunK-Y: You need to install the Compiz Config, methinks.
[22:28] <dupondje> Weird issue when I boot my system. It starts up, get the purple ubuntu screen .. and then nothing for like 1 minute, and then it boots & I get login screen ... :s any idea's ?
[22:28] <ActionParsnip> asdf_msc: the guide may still apply, also ask in #winehq
[22:28] <manOwl> Ultimate_Chaos: does it render all the textures correctly?
[22:28] <Ultimate_Chaos> but i need to know what servers it connects to
[22:29] <Ultimate_Chaos> yes
[22:29] <twiggydanger> ohsix: so i just need to do chown  username /path/to/folder -r and that will set me to owner?
[22:29] <zzecool> Guys im searching about how to disable the Title on the Global Menu  , what i mean is actually i want the global menu always visible instead of this Title-intelihide  joke           Anyone  ????
[22:29] <hobbel> What could make a file disappear from the file list yet remain on the harddisk?
[22:29] <notlistening> what is the difference between unity 2D & 3D?
[22:29] <manOwl> i had portal running, but it was not rendering all the textures
[22:29] <JunK-Y> will try that
[22:29] <manOwl> because i had to run it in dx8 mode
[22:29] <notlistening> is it all in the name ;) ?
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> notlistening:  eyecandy and a few other looks.
[22:29] <phibxr> dupondje, sounds like the booting screen, plymouth i think, not displaying properly. got an nvidia-card?
[22:29] <Ultimate_Chaos> need to mod the game files
[22:29] <manOwl> hobbel: the list of files is not bound to the file itself..
[22:29] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: add a period to the start of it's name
[22:29] <Rehan> to all the wise ubuntu experts, is there a way I can have my laptop load up in powersave mode every time I boot? Right now I have to manually select it using a gnome2 panel applet to throttle the cpu down.  Thank you very much.
[22:29] <Dr_Willis> notlistening:  the keybindings will also be differnt so some of the things using compiz wont be there.
[22:29] <manOwl> hobbel: the filesystem stores the filenames, inodes, inumbers etc..
[22:29] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: uvc sounds like just the webcam...
[22:29] <manOwl> hobbel: the file itself is a binary blob
[22:30] <ohsix> twiggydanger: well there's a manual (man chown) and it's chown -R user(:group) /dirorfile, but yea, that's it
[22:30] <notlistening> and can I get the apps as text not icons (better for my eye sighty) ?
[22:30] <scoffin> jrib: uninstalling indicator-appmenu seems to do what I want
[22:30] <Lxndr> ChogyDan: Whatever it is, it's quitting down to a CLI.
[22:30] <hobbel> ActionParnip manOwl im missing a lot of files, no data on HD lost (since leftover space is the same). I suspect Deluge
[22:30] <asdf_msc> ActionPartnership: i've tried everything in the guide, and have been asking in winehq but i'm not sure the problem is wine related
[22:30] <Ultimate_Chaos> if it doesn't connect to the server it crashes
[22:30] <hobbel> ActionParnip manOwl how can I restore my files?
[22:30] <manOwl> hobbel: you're missing filenames?
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: use tab to complete nicks
[22:30] <ChogyDan> Rehan: what is it now?
[22:30] <manOwl> paths etc?
[22:30] <Ultimate_Chaos> and if i coop in it it lookkss 50x better
[22:30] <jrib> scoffin: cool
[22:30] <manOwl> hobbel: first, are the files really important
[22:30] <manOwl> what are they
[22:31] <scoffin> thanks
[22:31] <asdf_msc> Dave888, did WoW start right up after upgrade or did you change something?
[22:31] <Rehan> ChogyDan: On boot its always in OnDemand mode
[22:31] <kermit> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW says its off by default, but it really seems like this system has a firewall.. i can IM via skype, but any new inbound connections are ignored, not even refused.  its not behind NAT.
[22:31] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: it might be unrelated though.  Maybe check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log file, or dmesg
[22:31] <dupondje> phibxr: 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RS880 [Radeon HD 4290]
[22:31] <dupondje> mmm :)
[22:31] <Ultimate_Chaos> Building File Database
[22:31] <ohsix> Rehan: you know that ondemand overall saves battery by completing work quicker right, or do you want to do that for thermal reasons or something?
[22:31] <hobbel> manOwl ActionParsnip have them on backup, fresh install of 11.04. but the files do not show up on the drive anymore.
[22:31] <Rehan> ohsix: yeah exactly, thermal reasons
[22:31] <Ultimate_Chaos> Error dpkg has closed unexpecta=ently
[22:31] <rgr> hmm, after a quick play I really wonder why gufw was developed as opposed to simply maintaining the much more intuitive firestarter. Oh well.
[22:31] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, Can you tell me how? It's just dumping into CLI, and it's been a long time since I've had to use the CLI directly. (I can't seem to start the GUI at all, and it won't even communicate with the network)
[22:31] <ActionParsnip> !fixapt | Ultimate_Chaos
[22:31] <Ultimate_Chaos> everyt time i run it
[22:31] <manOwl> hobbel: recovering lost files on a drive is very time consuming, I assume you have a really, really good reason to want the files?
[22:31] <ohsix> Rehan: hm you should probably troubleshoot those then, they can usually be fixed
[22:32] <ohsix> rgr: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:32] <manOwl> also stop using the drive now or you'll ruin your chances
[22:32] <ohsix> rgr: ufw is also a firewall, gufw is a gui for it, read about ufw if you want to know why
[22:32] <Ultimate_Chaos> but it isnt
[22:32] <Ultimate_Chaos> i checked
[22:32] <twiggydanger> ohsix: that worked! thanks a ton.
[22:32] <Rehan> ohsix: its just my laptop is a beast and makes a ton of heat. know of a way to make it not start in ondemand?
[22:32] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: nano /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:32] <ohsix> agh @ when they do that
[22:32] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: dmesg
[22:32] <hobbel> manOwl there is no space lost, its about 80GB thats just "gone". But i did not get +80gb in free space
[22:32] <Andre_Gondim> Hi, when I plug hdmi cable my all my screen stay so mess, how do I fix it
[22:32] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: I finally figured out a workaround. Since I'm running amd64, I just added the beta flash 64bit, which is a workaround for nspluginwrapper
[22:32] <Ultimate_Chaos> ohnwhat is a good ubuntu irc chat program
[22:32] <ohsix> Rehan: well that's not really the knob to adjust if heat is your problem, that's what i'm saying
[22:33] <hobbel> manOwl so i guess files are still there, but in a weird "cant see" modus or something
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: I always use the 64bit flash in my 64bit rigs, works much better imho
[22:33] <rgr> Ultimate_Chaos: irssi, xchat, pigeon.
[22:33] <Rehan> ohsix: what would you recommend?
[22:33] <manOwl> hobbel: you're not going to be able to recover 80gb of files that have lost filesystem entries.
[22:33] <Rehan> ChogyDan: any ideas?
[22:33] <andycc> Ultimate_Chaos, I use xchat-gnome and it works pretty well.
[22:33] <econdudeawesome> ActionParsnip: I didn't even consider it as a solution until i thought about it for awhile :-)
[22:33] <Ultimate_Chaos> does xchat support mirc scripts?
[22:33] <ChogyDan> Rehan: I know a way to do that, it's a little tricky.  edit /etc/init.d/ondemand so it sets it to what you want instead of ondemand
[22:33] <manOwl> hobbel: i don't know what the best software is for recovering a lost file, but it can be done with dd.
[22:33] <hobbel> manOwl how can I Free my lost space then?
[22:33] <rgr> Ultimate_Chaos: it has good docs.
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> econdudeawesome: I also use 64bit flash ;)
[22:33] <hobbel> manOwl I have a backup so I dont care about the files
[22:33] <ActionParsnip> java sorry
[22:34] <manOwl> hobbel: what do you mean, free your lost space?
[22:34] <Ultimate_Chaos> KK
[22:34] <jaundice> after upgrading to 11 (server) my vm will not boot kernel 2.6.38 just dumps me into initramfs prompt, will boot 2.6.35 however with seemingy identical params any ideas?
[22:34] <Soothsayer> Anyone installed DockBarX over Unity ?
[22:34] <ohsix> Rehan: finding out why it's so hot, and stopping whatever you can that's making it hot; last time this came up someone had a problem device that was burning cpu, and he was able to just disable it
[22:34] <manOwl> hobbel: when the filesystem loses a file, that space is considered free!
[22:34] <manOwl> you're constantly overwriting your old files as you use your computer
[22:34] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, I have that file opened. What should I be looking for?
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: docky on one, unity on another
[22:34] <murielgodoi> hi, where can i find ubuntu iso md5 hash? It isn't available at ubuntu download page.
[22:34] <econdudeawesome> One more question for the group. I'm restoring my gnome panel, but cannot remember what the area is called where open applications are listed in the panel...
[22:34] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, exactly what I want.. works well for dual monitor ?
[22:34] <Rehan> ohsix: oh its not ubuntu specific, its the laptop. Its an i7 with a poorly designed fan system
[22:34] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: errors at the end  unfortunately, I don't really know
[22:34] <ohsix> Rehan: i know it's not ubuntu specific when you asked it ;]
[22:35] <BlouBlou> anyone knows why I can't see logos in Unity? I mean images, I can click on them, but no images are showing
[22:35] <hobbel> manOwl let me repeat, the filesystem doesnt find any free space! I cant find ~80GB worth of files in nautilus / amarok etc. on a 120GB disc! only 5GB free space atm
[22:35] <Ultimate_Chaos> Sorry PolicyKit Authentication Agent closed unexpectently
[22:35] <SecteurClean> hello there canal for french people ?
[22:35] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, It says 'Fatal server error'
[22:35] <BlouBlou> like if they were totally transparenrts, or invisibles
[22:35] <Jordan_U> hobbel: The only way that I know of to completely unlink a file whithout freeing its space in the filesystem is for the file to still be open by some program. But I think it's unlikely that is happening for you.
[22:35] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, More specifically, it says "no screens found"
[22:35] <kwrite> I can't get my Dell 1397 wireless card to work with Wireshark. I can't find anything on the net about it. Anyone know if there is a way to get it to work?
[22:35] <manOwl> hobbel: either you are not looking hard enough for the file that is taking up your space, or you need to make a new filesystem.
[22:35] <ohsix> Rehan: is it really poorly designed or are the thermal zones incorrect in the bios?
[22:35] <ChogyDan> econdudeawesome: window list
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: no idea, I have 1 monitor for 6 systems
[22:35] <christhecoolboy> The Problem I have is that my mic is not listed after the 11.04 upgrade, it now has "Internal Audio Analogue Stereo" Instead... I have a MSI AE2020, The Sound card is a Nvidia MCP79 and the computer requires Snd-hda-intel to have Auto to have sound, loads more were tested in 10.10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/ should give you more Information that can help fix it, the Mic is built in to the computer
[22:35] <manOwl> hobbel: try the tool baobab
[22:35] <econdudeawesome> ChogyDan: where there ya go--thanks!
[22:35] <manOwl> it finds the biggest files to delete
[22:35] <asdf_msc> if anyone has gotten WoW to work on 11.04, please let me know what you did
[22:35] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: anything before that?
[22:36] <hobbel> manOwl Jordan_U this filesystem is ~6 hours old. All lost / hidden files are Deluge "seeds". Already did a restart
[22:36] <Soothsayer> ActionParsnip, so what did you mean by unity on one, dock on another? (two different installations??)
[22:36] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, "Failed to load module "nvidia" No drivers available.
[22:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> i entered the correct password
[22:36] <Rehan> ohsix: its so poorly designed they forced a recall/BIOS update on the system that makes the stupid fans just stay almost at full all the time to cover their ass from lawsuits
[22:36] <ohsix> asdf_msc: you'd probably fare better asking in #winehq or checkign out the appdb, that's pretty much just a wine issue
[22:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> it unlocked then locked
[22:36] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: that's the one!
[22:36] <Ultimate_Chaos> then i entered it again and i got there error
[22:36] <murielgodoi> Where can i find ubuntu iso md5 hash? It isn't available at ubuntu download page.
[22:36] <manOwl> hobbel: there are two possibilites. that you used a ton of space, or that the filesystem is corrupt and needs to be erased and reformatted.
[22:36] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, yay! what do I do?
[22:36] <Rehan> ohsix: there's nothing in the bios except boot order. very basic bios
[22:36] <ActionParsnip> Soothsayer: laptop uses unity (single screen), Media Centre goes to tV (single screen), rest are headless servers
[22:36] <manOwl> hobbel: some runaway program probably created a big file on your computer.
[22:36] <asdf_msc> ohsix: i've tried both and it seems to be an opengl issue rather than wine
[22:37] <manOwl> hobbel: sudo apt-get install baobab <--- run this, find the big file, delete it.
[22:37] <ohsix> Rehan: the bios contains tables that tells linux about the fans and the zones they manage ,and all their trip points and stuff; it's more than just the settings
[22:37] <manOwl> if you can't, then you need to make a new filesystem.
[22:37] <Ultimate_Chaos> anyone know how to fix it?
[22:37] <rgr> argh, why do they insist on calling things like gufw and firestarter "firewalls" - they are not.
[22:37] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: what does dkms status say?
[22:37] <daif> Hi , I can't upgrade to 11.04 "Could not calculate the upgrade"
[22:37] <ohsix> asdf_msc: it'd still be wine; they're the ones fitting the square peg in the round hole :]
[22:37] <stercor> Where would I go to post a question about firewalls and routers?
[22:37] <Soothsayer> why didn't Unity factor in dual monitors!
[22:37] <ohsix> rgr: #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:37] <Rehan> ohsix: ah well i tried using sensors detect with lm-sensors and it only found a few
[22:37] <Soothsayer> that's one thing that requires a lot of work and attention
[22:37] <rgr> stercor: here or #linux
[22:38] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, If I type 'dkms' it returns nothing.
[22:38] <hobbel> manOwl, baobab still finds the files as space
[22:38] <MK``> adding >> in the terminal will append to a file right?
[22:38] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: dkms status
[22:38] <kfizz> Is there any place other than "Startup Applications" where startup programs could be listed? I have a weather indicator applet installed and I don't want it starting up anymore but it's not listed in "Startup Applications."
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> stercor: or ##networking
[22:38] <Ultimate_Chaos> hello?
[22:38] <rgr> kfizz: yes
[22:38] <manOwl> hobbel: what do you mean it finds the files as space?
[22:38] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, There are four lines.
[22:38] <rgr> init scripts
[22:38] <ActionParsnip> kfizz: you can add .desktop files in ~/.config/autostart
[22:38] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: are they all marked installed?
[22:38] <Rehan> ChogyDan: thank you, I did sudo vim /etc/init.d/ondemand  -- if you had a few spare moments could you provide me with further instructions?
[22:38] <manOwl> hobbel: the numbers that df -h reports are definitely incorrect?
[22:38] <ohsix> rgr: those don't have anything to do with the session manager
[22:38] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, Yes, they are.
[22:38] <abbronzato> HELP, i cannot use the latest 11.04: 'udevd-work[98]: '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci: v000010DEd00000398sv00001179sd0000FF31bc03sc00i00' unexpected exit with status 0x0009", i have verified the downloaded md5sum, reburned then verified, looks good but same error: HELP! thx
[22:38] <kfizz> rgr: I've grepped /etc/init.d for it, but I couldn't find it there either.
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> kfizz: you can add scripts and suck in KDE using the folder ~/.kde/Autorun
[22:39] <manOwl> hobbel: you can try fsck
[22:39] <hobbel> manOwl, looks like my partition is smaller all of sudden... hmmz
[22:39] <rgr> thats be user local for sure
[22:39] <ohsix> kfizz: it wouldn't be there
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> abbronzato: did you test your RAM?
[22:39] <manOwl> PEBKAC
[22:39] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay how do i tell it that i want to upgrade the OPERATING SYSTEM
[22:39] <bkerensa> n #ubuntu-us-or
[22:39] <abbronzato> hello, in true not, the system runs fine, but i can test it
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> Ultimate_Chaos: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get -y upgrade
[22:39] <kfizz> ActionParsnip, thanks; however, I'm using Gnome.
[22:39] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: is your kernel listed?  prolly 2.6.38-8
[22:40] <ChogyDan> Rehan: sure
[22:40] <Cale> I can't seem to upgrade to 11.04 from 10.10 because of "broken or held packages". What should I do to get more information about what's going wrong?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip> kfizz: then ~/.config/autostart
[22:40] <ohsix> rgr: i wish you'd hold your tongue, you lead people off into the weeds & other people have to bring them back, you're deliberately creating work for other people with more interest in helping than yourself
[22:40] <Cale> I don't appear to have any held packages at the moment
[22:40] <kfizz> ActionParsnip, Checking there now but not seeing anything :/
[22:40] <Josesordo> Damn Unity.. now my windows border dont show!.. help please!
[22:40] <jbsoum> hey can someone help me? i upgraded to 11.04 and somewhere in the process of disabling the unity desktop and enabling compiz, i lost all my window borders
[22:40] <owner> hey can anyone help me. I have tried to get Blender 2.57b to work with openshot in Ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04 and so far it won't work.
[22:40] <FernandoBasso> Ubuntu x86 default (not alternate) is asking a login user and password to 'try it without install'. Any ideas?
[22:40] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, I see 2.6.38-8-generic as the top line. The other lines have other numbers.
[22:40] <jbsoum> lol josesordo me too
[22:40] <ohsix> Cale: open synaptic and see waht it thinks are being held or pinned
[22:40] <Ultimate_Chaos> im running ubuntu11.04
[22:41] <Ultimate_Chaos> beta 1
[22:41] <Ultimate_Chaos> how do i tell it to upgrade
[22:41] <owner> I'm running 11.04 too
[22:41] <Josesordo> jbsoum, yeah me too.. I remove all compiz stuff..and nothing yet..
[22:41] <ActionParsnip> kfizz: you can symlink (or copy or create) .desktop files in that folder and they will run on logon
[22:41] <Jordan_U> !final | Ultimate_Chaos
[22:41] <owner> OpenShot video editor wants Blender 2.57b installed in order for it to do the CGI stuff.
[22:41] <kfizz> ActionParsnip, thanks I'll check it out.
[22:41] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: yeah, I dunno, you could at least remove the nvidia driver to get going again.  Not sure how to fix it
[22:41] <ohsix> kfizz: if you're trying to get your applets back with unity, you probably cant; it's not a real panel
[22:41] <owner> I tried going into prefrences and telling OpenShot where the new blender executable was but it won't do it.
[22:42] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, How should I remove the nvidia driver?
[22:42] <Ultimate_Chaos> ty very much upgrading
[22:42] <owner> I hate unity.
[22:42] <jbsoum> owner, me too
[22:42] <hobbel> manOwl 64 / 70GB used in baobab, the folder with the "missing files" still reports the folder size it had before the files went missing. Folders themself still there, i just miss the files (mainly .mp3)
[22:42] <ohsix> owner: if you have a question, ask it, otherwise #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:42] <arrrghhh> owner, jbsoum so ditch it.  go back to the 'ubuntu classic' setting
[22:42] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-current
[22:42] <Cale> ohsix: is there an easy way to get a list of the packages it thinks are pinned?
[22:42] <ChogyDan> Rehan: look for the line like echo -n ondemand > $CPUFREQ
[22:42] <kfizz> ohsix, I'm using Ubuntu classic, thanks for the tip tho.
[22:42] <Cale> ohsix: I don't have any held packages at the moment
[22:42] <jbsoum> arrrghhh, i did, but now my window borders are gone and i dont know how to get them back o.O
[22:43] <W4RH4WK> hello, which command line irc client do you prefere irssi, weechat? i need some advice which one to try out
[22:43] <owner> ohsix I asked how to get OpenShot video editor to work with Blender 2.57b
[22:43] <Cale> and everything is upgraded to the latest version in 10.10
[22:43] <Juest> hi, what i have to put in /etc/lilo.conf?
[22:43] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, Done. Should I try restarting now?
[22:43] <ohsix> Cale: not that i know of, i don't use synaptic much; probably why i've never had a problem :O
[22:43] <arrrghhh> jbsoum, reboot?  i didn't have that issue...
[22:43] <Rehan> ChogyDan: found it
[22:43] <jbsoum> i rebotted and the problem still persists
[22:43] <ChogyDan> Lxndr: you can check with dkms status again, but yeah
[22:43] <Witchsong_> Anyone got the issue with XChat that it doesn't minimize the application to the panel when you choose "Minimize to tray"?
[22:43] <Stereocaulon_> Is there a way to get rid of the envelope icon/button in the top-right of the screen, without disabling my network manager view and keyboard chooser?
[22:43] <Juest> and i can't reboot
[22:43] <owner> ohsix even if you go into prefrences and point it at the executable for Blender 2.57b it won't work.
[22:43] <Jordan_U> Juest: Ubuntu doesn't use lilo, it uses GRUB2.
[22:43] <arrrghhh> jbsoum, gotta be your theme or smth related to it.
[22:43] <Juest> lol?
[22:43] <Cale> ohsix: I normally just use apt-get
[22:43] <notlistening> this is a nasty ones :D https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/774463
[22:43] <ohsix> owner: dunno what to say
[22:43] <Juest> lilo's avaible
[22:43] <krocks> stuck in initramfs
[22:44] <jbsoum> arrrghhh, ill try changing themes, brb
[22:44] <arrrghhh> Juest, it's avail, but not used by default.
[22:44] <Juest> is because is debian based
[22:44] <ohsix> Stereocaulon_: that's the presence menu, i dunno that you can
[22:44] <krocks> my drive was not unmounted properly
[22:44] <owner> No one knows what to say. Here is what I need to know ohsix. I need to know where to stick the files in the package for Blender 2.57b so that they will replace the outdated version.
[22:44] <Juest> oh?
[22:44] <Jordan_U> Juest: Yes, but it's not used by default and I can't see why you would want to use it.
[22:44] <Lxndr> ChogyDan, It was gone from dkms, now it's rebooting. Wish me luck.
[22:44] <Juest> lol, because is more easier than grub
[22:44] <ChogyDan> Rehan: I changed ondemand to conservative.  maybe you can just put in powersave?
[22:44] <hihihi100> what happened to the bottom bar of firefox? its gone since the upgrade
[22:44] <arrrghhh> Juest, is it?  :P
[22:44] <krocks> what should i do tu repair  ubuntu?
[22:44] <owner> Ya unity is like using an iphone or droid.
[22:44] <Juest> and where i can edit grub static files?
[22:45] <Jordan_U> Juest: Then you should be able to figure out what to put in /etc/lilo.conf on your own :)
[22:45] <Juest> brb
[22:45] <ohsix> jbsoum: you need to turn on the decorator plugin in compiz, did you actually uninstall all the packages with *unity* in the name or just use the other session?
[22:45] <Rehan> ChogyDan: ok, whats the difference between powersave and conservative?
[22:45] <ActionParsnip> Juest: if you find it easier, use it :)
[22:45] <Juest> ok, i need to know, also i don't remember
[22:45] <rgr> Juest: using lilo is pretty stupid.
[22:45] <Witchsong_> hihihi100, what kind of bottom bar?
[22:45] <Juest> that's why i came
[22:45] <rgr> unless you have a very godo reason
[22:45] <ohsix> rgr: keep your opinions to yourself
[22:45] <jbsoum> ohsix, i just used the other session, i didnt uninstall it
[22:45] <Josesordo> grr.. Damn unity.. they want us to use only their theme.. lol
[22:45] <Stereocaulon_> ohsix, thanks for the notice, I am getting sick of icon rows being merged into one big happy indicator monster. No critique to you, but to the the Ubuntu design team...
[22:46] <ChogyDan> Rehan: well, you just want powersave, I think it will work, just change ondemand to powersave
[22:46] <Juest> and i used lilo before but still frogeting how's the conf
[22:46] <Rehan> ChogyDan: ok
[22:46] <machour> hi, anyone with a nice icon theme featuring different icons for the different mimetypes ?
[22:46] <ohsix> jbsoum: ok weird, the window decorator shouldn't have been messed with then; but you just need to turn it back on
[22:46] <dupondje> lilo = prehistoric ...
[22:46] <Juest> BRB
[22:46] <arrrghhh> !grub | Juest either use these links or figure out LILO on your own...
[22:46] <hihihi100> witchsong, the bar where I had icons to access my add-ons, like perakun, adblockplus, noscript, foxyproxy...
[22:46] <Jordan_U> Juest: Settings for grub2 go in /etc/default/grub (if you decide to use update-grub to keep your grub.cfg updated automatically).
[22:46] <hihihi100> witchsong, torbutton
[22:46] <ohsix> Stereocaulon_: well it's been available for review for a long time, most people only care after release though
[22:46] <jbsoum> ohsix, how do i do that?
[22:46] <hobbel> manOwl ActionParsnip  copying files from backup disc to disc -> "do you want to overwrite file" <-- so files are def. still there!
[22:46]  * dupondje hates kernel bugs :(
[22:47] <hihihi100> what happened to the status bar?
[22:47] <ohsix> jbsoum: open ccsm from compizconfig-settings-manager and tick on the decorator plugin
[22:47] <abbronzato> ActionParsnip.. really bat the ram test appears but does not starts (if executed from the ubuntu media!!!!!)
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: hmmm, do you see them in terminal?
[22:47] <Ultimate_Chaos> omg my internet!
[22:47] <Juest> yeah how do i manually edit the entries like with the in line temporal editing?
[22:47] <Stereocaulon_> ohsix, I have already protested during the 10.04 => 10.10 upgrade cycle. It was silently ignored...
[22:47] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: he probably doesn't have +x permission for the directory
[22:47] <Ultimate_Chaos> i want my internet to be good!
[22:47] <Juest> BRB!!!
[22:47] <dupondje> hihihi100: you can enable it :) its the 'addon bar' :)
[22:47] <hobbel> ActionParsnip ls returnt nothing
[22:47] <notlistening> ohsix, if you get a chance to look at the evolution bug i would appreciate it
[22:47] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: that lets you list files in a directory :]
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> abbronzato: could be a thing, if you hold shift at boot you can run memtest from the install drive
[22:47] <owner> I'm copying all the files into /usr/bin maybe that will work.
[22:47] <Witchsong_> hihihi100, that bar is still there, I got the Stylish icon on it.
[22:47] <eamon_> how safe is an encrypted home partition?
[22:48] <Ultimate_Chaos> yes
[22:48] <arrrghhh> !ot | Ultimate_Chaos
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I don't follow?
[22:48] <hobbel> ActionParsnip sudo ls doesnt return anything either
[22:48] <KitB> So I'm trying to install Natty on a HP Touchsmart tm2 from a usb disk, however it hangs on the ... is it Plymouth? Either way, boot splash. Just stops there.
[22:48] <rgr> depends on wha encryption you use obviously and from what.
[22:48] <abbronzato> ActionParsnip, thx the memory test appears, but simply does not starts!
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: you don't need sudo
[22:48] <eamon_> the regular installer
[22:48] <owner> WHA HA HA HA HA I FIXED IT!
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: try:  ls -a
[22:48] <owner> And no one else has
[22:48] <owner> :D
[22:48] <FloodBot2> owner: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:48] <hobbel> ActionParsnip to rule out permission errors
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> abbronzato: that's not good dude
[22:48] <ohsix> Stereocaulon_: well protest ... i don't think that's really effective, people inflate themselves into "tons of people" who happen to agree with them, even if you don't people don't take it with much weight; only thing you can really do is not care or get involved in the decisions made in the next version
[22:48] <jbsoum> ahhh good call thanks ohsix
[22:48] <owner> Hello FloodBot2
[22:48] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: anything with: ls -a
[22:48] <dupondje> KitB: and what if you wait a minute? Seems like i have same issue here :(
[22:48] <hobbel> ActionParsnip it reports two "files", one names "." and one ".."
[22:49] <eamon_>  ecryptfs the default one that is used in the ubuntu installer
[22:49] <abbronzato> ActionParsnip, i'm running another (fe....) from months without probs on this pc
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: and if you run:  pwd   is it the location where the files should be
[22:49] <KitB> dupondje: I've been waiting a few minutes now
[22:49] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: you can't list files in a directory without +x for your user, but you can create files there, and everything else; it's a tip for you since you're helping the guy
[22:49] <ohsix> ownwhat was it?
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: hmm, i thought you'd only need read access to read the folder listing, interesting
[22:50] <DiNozzo> Hey, anyone here good at getting soundcards to work?
[22:50] <ohsix> rgr: people can't usually infer who you're talking to unless you address them, channel often moves past what you're replying to pretty fast too
[22:50] <Josesordo> I want my windows borders back!..please help!
[22:50] <hobbel> ActionParsnip I found a way to get the files back... copy them from the external HD (backup) but hit "no" on overwite makes them appear again
[22:50] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i could be mistaken, that's my understanding btu i haven't checked
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> hobbel: weird
[22:50] <Stereocaulon_> ohsix I have been involved, I am not inflating inflating myself, yet I still find it a rather irritating way to handle these things. Toolbars of any kind should be customizable. Period.
[22:50] <eamon_> rgr: ecryptfs
[22:50] <hobbel> ActionParsnip extremely weird
[22:50] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: linux is a strange creature :)
[22:51] <kjxl9> can someone help me go through this tutorial: http://www.ehow.com/how_7729420_use-ps3-controller-ubuntu.html
[22:51] <KitB> Capslock has no effect, alt+prtscr+S, U, B also has no effect
[22:51] <ohsix> Stereocaulon_: agreed, which is why i'm not using anything that doesn't have gnome-panel in it
[22:51] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: well, shrug; yea i guess, but it's grandfathered from classic unix permissions
[22:51] <KitB> dupondje: Are you getting the black screen problem as well?
[22:51] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: there are other bits with special meanings on directories, x just happens to overlap directly with one that can be set on a file too
[22:51] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: true, so much easier than windows ones with inheritance of permissions mixing stuff up
[22:52] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: i think it's cute you can have a directory you otherwise have full permission to aside from listing its contents; makes lots of things easy
[22:52] <dupondje> KitB: have a black screen for like a minute @ boottime, and then it boots .. weird shit
[22:52] <bazhang> dupondje, no cursing please
[22:52] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: amen :)
[22:52] <KitB> dupondje: That is a little odd.
[22:53] <KitB> dupondje: Is this booting from a liv usb or after install?
[22:53] <eamon_> sorry to ask this again but does anyone know how secure ecryptfs is?
[22:53] <KitB> s/liv/live/
[22:53] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: you can still directly modify files you know the name of, or execute them or whatever
[22:53] <Stereocaulon_> ohsix, well, it is a rather minor issue after all...Thanks for letting me blow off some steam.
[22:53] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I guess that has advantages
[22:53] <ohsix> eamon_: theres nobody that can quantify how secure it is, that's a decision someone makes knowing full well what it does, and deciding for themselves how secure they need it
[22:54] <dupondje> KitB: after upgrade (coming from 10.04)
[22:54] <kjxl9> im confused:"Type the following command to switch to the download directory: cd /home/user/downloads Replace "user" with your user name." i typed this in terminal and it said the dorectory doesn't exist
[22:54] <ohsix> eamon_: and while encryption may be mathematically resplendent, when people are involved they compromise it greatly; so you can't evaluate eitehr one in isolation
[22:54] <KitB> dupondje: I'm not getting the black screen on normal boot
[22:54] <KitB> (I also ran an upgrade, from 10.10)
[22:54] <ohsix> Stereocaulon_: np, everyone has lots to go around :]
[22:54] <eamon_> ohsix: ok thanks i was just wondering because since it only encrpyts your home directory i was worried that there maybe sensitive data stored in other parts of the partition is this true?
[22:55] <dupondje> Did have a kernel softlock also :(
[22:55] <ohsix> eamon_: if you really want some data you have to be secure you should segregate it and store it securely, that need not even include encryption, but often does; if you just go and encrypt everything the information you want to protect becomes as important as everything else, or the whole volume becomes very hard to secure
[22:56] <[segfault]> Hi folks.  I tried asking this yesterday, but lost my connection.  Does anyone know how to get Emerald themes running under Natty?  Whenever I do 'emerald --replace' it segfaults on me.
[22:56] <arrrghhh> [segfault], Emerald, isn't that ancient?
[22:56] <christhecoolboy> The Problem I have is that my mic is not listed after the 11.04 upgrade, it now has "Internal Audio Analogue Stereo" Instead... I have a MSI AE2020, The Sound card is a Nvidia MCP79 and the computer requires Snd-hda-intel to have Auto to have sound, loads more were tested in 10.10, http://paste.ubuntu.com/601047/ and http://paste.ubuntu.com/601054/ should give you more Information that can help fix it, the Mic is built in to the computer
[22:56] <eamon_> ohsix: are all privite files stored in the home directory such as logs?
[22:56] <arrrghhh> !emerald
[22:57] <arrrghhh> [segfault], ^^
[22:57] <MrMist1> ohsix: I'm using hdparam.conf just like before. No changes except the brace
[22:57] <MrMist1> ohsix: Gotta go... thanks for all the help though :)
[22:57] <[segfault]> arrrghhh: well, I guess so, but the themes are so much better than what I have seen in compiz.  I never realized it was that old.  Are there similar quality themes for compiz/unity then?  All the ones I have seen when I click 'get themes' are *very* basic, no glass transparencies, etc.
[22:58] <arrrghhh> [segfault], i don't really mess much with the themes to be honest, sorry.
[22:59] <cached> Who's the brain box who decided I don't want a task bar any more?
[22:59] <cached> And how do I get it back?
[22:59] <kjxl9> hey can i get some help with something?
[22:59] <[segfault]> arrrghhh: I guess I should hunt for alternative themes then.  Am I right in assuming that I can use compiz themes under Unity, then?
[22:59] <DiNozzo> Okay I would really appreciate help!
[22:59] <Stereocaulon_> cached, just switch back to classic mode, just as I dd after seeing Unity for about 1 minute
[22:59] <arrrghhh> [segfault], i'd assume so...
[22:59] <DiNozzo> Just installed 11.04 on my media server
[22:59] <MrMist1> kjxl9: Specify what you need help with..
[22:59] <MK``> adding >> in the terminal will append to a file right? while > makes a new file?
[22:59] <cached> Stereocaulon_: How do I do that?
[22:59] <DiNozzo> and the internal sound card wont output any sound
[23:00] <cached> MK``: Yes
[23:00] <DiNozzo> But if I check the sound panel it says "Internal Sound Card"
[23:00] <MK``> thanks cached
[23:00] <kjxl9> i type in "cd /Home/adam/downloads" and it sais the directory doesn't exist
[23:00] <manOwl> Where did the desktop effects preferences go in 11.04!?
[23:00] <[segfault]> arrrghhh: ok, I will see what else I may have missed.  The thin borders on most of these default themes are really hard to grab for resizing, etc.  Thanks for the help! :)
[23:00] <Stereocaulon_> cached, log off, insert your User name and Password and select the type of session on the bottom
[23:00] <trailoryo> anyone know about any good photo edit app?
[23:01] <guntbert> kjxl9: its /home/...  not /Home/...
[23:01] <Moa> hello guys ! Since I installed Naty, the Display on my monitor is ok but on my TV it is "greenish". The same hardware was perfect under maverick. Any idea ?
[23:01] <arrrghhh> [segfault], i know they drive me batty when i try to resize anything.  i just wish the zone for resizing was larger...
[23:01] <kjxl9> i didn't work either way
[23:01] <ohsix> eamon_: ehh well theres lots of files with information people can use; that's why its important to choose what information you want to protect
[23:01] <Lxndr> I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on my laptop. However, now whenever I start the laptop, it gives me a startup screen that says "ubuntu studio Linux for creative humans" and does not move past that point. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[23:01] <manOwl> trailoryo: the gimp
[23:02] <trailoryo> thanks man0wl
[23:02] <[segfault]> arrrghhh: yes, and the new scroll box that appears when you get the mouse in *just* the right spot is annoying me also.  Thicker borders would help me there, but there is not enough configurability in the default theme engine.
[23:02] <MrMist1> kjxl9: use tab extensions... like "cd /home/a<tab>/Dow<tab>"
[23:02] <ohsix> eamon: even stuff in /var/log can contain identifying information as to usage patterns, when you turned your laptop on or off, what wifi you were connected to; that might not seem like anything at all but it does give away quite a bit
[23:02] <cached> Stereocaulon_: Fixed. Thanks!
[23:02] <guntbert> kjxl9: yes, and it is .../Downloads .... case matters!
[23:02] <MrMist1> kjxl9: If <tab> doesn't give you anything, try "<tab><tab>" to list possible selections..
[23:02] <Stereocaulon_> cached, welcome back in Gnome2 :-)
[23:02] <cached> Whoever decided that this interface is better needs to read up on "usability"
[23:02] <kjxl9> ok ill try
[23:02] <tarnschaf> hi, does anyone know a possibility to run 3 monitors with 2 graphics cards?
[23:03] <ohsix> eamon: best advice i can give is decide what information really matters, and keep it separate and secure, you can get mozilla/ff to use pcks11 and stuff as well
[23:03] <ohsix> cached: what if they did and they came to a different conclusion than you did? there's a funny thing about human behaviour ...
[23:03] <Stereocaulon_> cached, I agree wholly on that
[23:03] <Senix> How do i install *.run files?
[23:03] <kjxl9> ok i got it
[23:03] <ohsix> Senix: wherever you got the software should have instructions on how to install it; what software is it?
[23:04] <tensorpudding> Senix: if you double-click it, it should run
[23:04] <manOwl> man why isn't it easy to add a launcher to the unity panel?
[23:04] <manOwl> i just want to put a terminal on there
[23:04] <tensorpudding> manOwl: it's not hard
[23:04] <ohsix> manOwl: don't you just drag it after you searched for it?
[23:04] <manOwl> that's what I tried
[23:04] <manOwl> maybe I dragged it wrong
[23:04] <Senix> ohsix: its a game called "aquaria' that i bought from humble bundle
[23:04] <ohsix> or click on it or something, after it's launched
[23:04] <tensorpudding> manOwl: search for it, then drag it onto the launcher
[23:04] <ohsix> Senix: ah
[23:04] <tensorpudding> you can drag .desktop files too i think
[23:05] <manOwl> This panel is not ready for primetime
[23:05] <Juest> ok, where's the real grub config file????
[23:05] <manOwl> I am disappoint.
[23:05] <manOwl> tensorpudding: duh
[23:05] <Senix> i will take tensorpudding's advice and see if double-clicking will install. but ohsix how do i install it from terminal?
[23:05] <Juest> and how do i restore gnome-session, it's broken
[23:05] <manOwl> tensorpudding: two problems here
[23:05] <ohsix> Senix: well run it as instructed, but you could use checkinstall as well to track installed files and uninstall it later if you wish
[23:05] <ohsix> Senix: probably just sh file.run
[23:05] <manOwl> tensorpudding: dragging it to the bottom does not work, it seems intuitive to drag into empty space. for it to work you must drag it to the top
[23:05] <Solnse> Since I upgraded to 11, ubuntu won't load... it gets stuck on checking battery state... is this something I can fix?
[23:05] <bazhang> !grub2 | Juest have a read
[23:05] <manOwl> second problem
[23:06] <manOwl> I just added the launcher to my panel
[23:06] <Juest> i can only run commands that i have troubles with shortcuts on applications listing
[23:06] <ohsix> manOwl: you should have spoke up during prereleases D: it's not like it just came into existence when natty was released
[23:06] <manOwl> and it instead inserted a blank space the size of the launcher
[23:06] <manOwl> with no icon
[23:06] <Juest> ok bazhang
[23:06] <manOwl> ohsix: i don't use developmental software
[23:06] <manOwl> i stay on stable releases
[23:06] <Juest> dosen't help -.-
[23:06] <Senix> ohsix: sweet thanks
[23:06] <manOwl> which is why I am a bit peeved
[23:06] <ohsix> manOwl: fair enough, but there's only so much you can ask for if you opted out of the entire process
[23:07] <bazhang> Juest, to fix grub, sure it does, if you read it
[23:07] <ohsix> manOwl: i've been finding that out over the last year or so :]
[23:07] <tensorpudding> Senix: generally speaking, files ending in .run are executable scripts (make sure that it's marked executable)
[23:07] <manOwl> I might have to file a couple bugs.
[23:07] <Juest> yeah, but i just want lilo
[23:07] <Juest> grub is ok
[23:07] <tensorpudding> Senix: you can do this by right-clicking and going to properties
[23:07] <ohsix> manOwl: please do, the blank icon thing you just mentioned sounds like a real bug
[23:07] <Droose> Hello everyone
[23:07] <bazhang> Juest, then why ask about grub explicitly
[23:07] <manOwl> yeah
[23:07] <manOwl> i'm taking a video of it now
[23:07] <manOwl> and gonna post it on launchapd
[23:07] <ohsix> much appreciated
[23:08] <Juest> and how do i edit directly the config that update-grub generates?
[23:08] <Droose> I have a question regarding the new unity desktop if someone could provide some help. I really appreciate it
[23:08] <Juest> because i need the true listing of boot choices
[23:08] <bazhang> Juest, I just told you. read that link
[23:08] <tensorpudding> manOwl: there's a video somewhere on http://omgubuntu.co.uk/natty/ that shows how to do it
[23:08] <Juest> ok
[23:08] <guntbert> Juest: usually you don't
[23:08] <ohsix> manOwl: and in a manner of speaking, unity is not ready for primetime yet, insofar as they wanted to release it and people to use it; it's not an LTS afterall, all these eyes on it now, and yourself and others filing bugs will straighten it out pretty fast
[23:08] <Juest> yeah, /etc/default/grub dosen't fit my needs
[23:09] <Juest> !grub
[23:09] <bazhang> guntbert, he wants to use lilo, no idea why he's asking this
[23:09] <manOwl> ohsix: i don't think it's a bad idea, i think it's kinda cool
[23:09] <Juest> yeah, i want lilo, but also that
[23:09] <manOwl> ohsix: but there are some things..
[23:09] <sven_> Hello. I just installed ubutu 11.04 on a computer with touchscreen. It is a Ideacom IDC 6650. The poniter behaves starange - more like a touchpap, than a touchscreen. Any Ideas how to fix that ?
[23:09] <guntbert> bazhang: that may be a language problem too :)
[23:09] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2   <--------- Juest
[23:09] <ohsix> manOwl: well it's a design, they need to flesh it out as a whole to see if it works, which is a tough thing to do
[23:09] <manOwl> ohsix: for example, a lot of apps in the repositories have 1995 icons that look like shit
[23:09] <manOwl> and when those icons are shown in unity
[23:09] <Droose> I want to revert to the old desktop style. I am not a fan of this new launcher system
[23:09] <Juest> and i need what to put in /etc/lilo.conf
[23:10] <manOwl> its just ugly
[23:10] <bazhang> manOwl, no cursing please
[23:10] <jrib> Droose: select "classic" at the login screen
[23:10] <tensorpudding> yeah, that's an issue unfortunately
[23:10] <ohsix> manOwl: yea theres not a lot they can do about that, those are provided files; they did put a lot of icons for popular software into the main ubuntu icon theme though
[23:10] <Solnse> I was hoping somebody could point me in the right direction.... since upgrading to 11, ubuntu hangs on checking battery state. I can't seem to find anything through searches. Is there something I can do to fix this problem?
[23:10] <Droose> @jrib thankyou
[23:10] <manOwl> ohsix: sure there is, they should just remove the apps
[23:10] <manOwl> a lot of them are trash anyway
[23:10] <tensorpudding> manOwl: which ones?
[23:11] <Juest> so?
[23:11] <tensorpudding> manOwl: that kind of defeats the purpose
[23:11] <manOwl> tensorpudding: there are misc apps being shown in the "hey download this" part
[23:11] <bazhang> Juest, so what?
[23:11] <manOwl> and they have ugly icons
[23:11] <ohsix> manOwl: ehhhh that's not something that's really done unless there's no maintainer, and everyone has a different idea of what's good and what isn't
[23:11] <guntbert> manOwl: please stop that ranting - doesn't help here at all
[23:11] <rach0> Solnse, do you get the "Checking battery state" msg
[23:11] <fatblueduck> how can i move the workspace switcher icon to the top of the dash?
[23:11] <manOwl> I don't care to be interrupted with information about some text based roleplaying game from 1998
[23:11] <Solnse> rach0, exactly
[23:11] <manOwl> when I'm searching the apps on my desktop
[23:11] <bazhang> manOwl, thats enough
[23:11] <jigynet> what?
[23:11] <ohsix> manOwl: yea what guntbert said, this has kind of ran off from me explaining things to a mini rant, which isn't appropriate here
[23:11] <jigynet> lols
[23:11] <JayWalker1> hey guys, I'm trying to set up triple monitors in 10.04 (with compiz enabled and using all 3 monitors as one X screen). This isn't possible with xinerama/twinview, anyone know a way that works?
[23:12] <manOwl> ohsix: i will have to put it in a blog.
[23:12] <Juest> because of some fstab non-ordinary uids i need to fix fstab or lilo.conf handwitring
[23:12] <jigynet> i used to run a dial up bbs
[23:12] <manOwl> sorry
[23:12] <jigynet> i had all kinds of text games
[23:12] <ohsix> manOwl: i thought that was weird too :D it searches uninstalled software
[23:12] <Juest> that's what i am asking for
[23:12] <Stereocaulon_> manOwl, just join #ubuntu-offtopic if you want to rant
[23:12] <Jordan_U> Juest: What are you trying to accomplish that you can't figure out how to do with grub2?
[23:12] <rgr> Juest: whats a non ordinary uid?
[23:12] <jigynet> i kinda want to start a new dial up bbs
[23:12] <marcin_> CONTECIN
[23:12] <bazhang> jigynet, got an ubuntu support question?
[23:12] <Stereocaulon_> jigynet, Ah, you too, loved Omega-rpg, still know it?
[23:12] <jigynet> yes 11 is still crashing java
[23:13] <rach0> Solnse, get into recovery terminal and try sudo apt-get install -reinstall gnome-power-manager
[23:13] <Solnse> rach0: during boot is just starts to hang and does nothing, the last thing I see on the list is checking battery state
[23:13] <ohsix> manOwl: fixing that will probably come with popcon and ratings from software-center, which are new; but will eventually rank used software to some degree, then they can be sorted when provided as suggestions for not yet installed software
[23:13] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay
[23:13] <Ultimate_Chaos> another problem
[23:13] <jigynet> lol no i have no clue about any text games these days, i'm all 3d rpg fps now
[23:13] <Solnse> rach0: ok, and that's all I should do, then reboot and it should boot?
[23:13] <Ultimate_Chaos> how do i get applications to launch from the sidebar
[23:13] <rgr> no.
[23:13] <Aikar> where do you report bugs in ubuntu one? ubuntu one wont let me sync "Purchased from Ubuntu One" if that directory is a symlink. I symlinked it to a diff harddrive and it wont let me sync unless its a plain folder
[23:13] <jigynet> i need a new pc tho =c
[23:13] <rach0> it should although it may throw out another error but at least you get back to GUI
[23:14] <ohsix> rgr: address who you are talking to
[23:14] <JayWalker1> nobody has any info on 3 monitor setups?
[23:14] <rgr> it might. but unlikely. since its unlikely that reinstalling it will change anything since the config files are already set up.
[23:14] <ohsix> rgr: please
[23:14] <ohsix> !who
[23:14] <Solnse> rach0: thank you very much for your response, I will go try it now.
[23:14] <sven_> Question: Any hints how to configure a touchscreen in ubuntu ?
[23:14] <jigynet> So, how do i get java to stop crashing? what is known to cause this in 10 and 11?
[23:14] <Juest> ok, so i want, * things that lilo.conf needs  * grub config that update-grub generates * fix gnome
[23:14] <Ultimate_Chaos> ohsix: do you know how to get applications to run off the sidebar?
[23:15] <ohsix> Aikar: on launchpad.net, you can use ubuntu-bug to fill in some default fields for you too
[23:15] <ohsix> Ultimate_Chaos: i don't know much about practical use of unity, as i don't use it myself
[23:15] <rgr> Juest: You still have given NO reason as to why you would use lilo.
[23:15] <Juest> testing pleasure
[23:15] <rach0> Solnse, you're welcome, if something goes wrong feel free to ask
[23:15] <Juest> yeah, i am curious
[23:15] <Juest> i do test for myself (that's testing pleasure)
[23:15] <jigynet> also, to circumvent this firefox java,ubu11 bug.. what other browser could i use
[23:15] <ohsix> Juest: you don't need to justify what you want to do, insofar as that people might want to know what you're doing so they can offer a better solution
[23:16] <Jordan_U> Juest: If you're just curious then you'll need to figure it out on your own. I think it's pretty clear by this point that you're not going to get lilo support here.
[23:16] <rgr> then ask in a lilo forum. Ubuntu defaults to grub. you are far more likely to get informed opinions elsehwere that its actually used.
[23:16] <ohsix> Juest: the problem with lilo being so ancient is you have constraints on what filesystems it can read to get access to its boot files, chances are it's not going to work
[23:16] <sdegutis> <3
[23:16] <XzargX> anyone running an asus p8p67 MB (base model, not PRo or anything) with Natty. would appreciate user  experience before purchase. thx
[23:16] <ohsix> rgr: it's still in the repositories, if you don't have anything to add please stop
[23:16] <Juest> lilo's debian default???
[23:17] <rgr> no
[23:17] <Soothsayer> is the user created in ubuntu a part of the 'root' group ?
[23:17] <sdegutis> :)
[23:17] <jigynet> dang firefox is slow..
[23:17] <Juest> oh?
[23:17] <ohsix> Juest: i doubt it
[23:17] <bazhang> Juest, you're on debian?
[23:17] <rgr> debian is grub too and has been for ages
[23:17] <sweb> why ubuntu 11 have bad failure on GPU and hardware ? what's the problem ?
[23:17] <Lxndr> I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on my laptop. However, now whenever I start the laptop, it gives me a splash screen that says "Ubuntu studio Linux for creative humans" and does not move past that point. Can anyone help me troubleshoot?
[23:17] <rgr> Soothsayer: that is a non Q. What "user"? And when?
[23:17] <Juest> no, i am at ubuntu, just wondering. ubuntu is based in debian
[23:18] <jigynet> 3rd problem i'm having.. i can't switch and use diffrent desktops in my xubuntu install..if i select others the menu bars dont show up
[23:18] <ohsix> Soothsayer: yes, and the group is "admin"
[23:18] <Soothsayer> rgr, my issue is this.. apache's default location for web files is at /var/www/
[23:18] <ohsix> Soothsayer: you mean people who are able to sudo, no?
[23:18] <Ultimate_Chaos> rgr: no matter what i do my internet will not work
[23:18] <rgr> it is. but debian defaults to grub.
[23:18] <rgr> Soothsayer: correct
[23:18] <Soothsayer> how do I make that file writable by the user logged in?
[23:18] <rgr> you dont
[23:18] <Soothsayer> directory*
[23:18] <Jordan_U> Juest: Lilo is not Debian's default, and hasn't been for a *long* time. Debian's default is also grub2.
[23:18] <ohsix> Soothsayer: you don't want to do that
[23:18] <sdegutis> this is pretty sweet, im not gonna lie about it
[23:18] <Soothsayer> hmm
[23:18] <sdegutis> really digging it so far.
[23:18] <rgr> normally you would symbolically link back to that users files
[23:18] <ohsix> Soothsayer: you want to add a user to the group able to edit files there
[23:18] <Juest> oh
[23:18] <id10t> I can't seem to get www.linux.org to load up, anyone else able to?
[23:19] <rgr> Or I certainly do.
[23:19] <jigynet> 4th issue.. how do i go about setting up a ntfs swap for ubuntu without takeing out the boot secotr
[23:19] <ohsix> Soothsayer: or set it up so it looks for files elsewhere for your user
[23:19] <merlot> id10t: I wasn't able to earlier either
[23:19] <rgr> The fact you asked means I suspect you dont understant permissions. YOu need to understand them if you want to play with apache2.
[23:19] <ohsix> id10t: http://isup.me/www.linux.org
[23:19] <Soothsayer> ohsix, hmm.. "you want to add a user to the group able to edit files there"
[23:19] <guntbert> sdegutis:  Do you have an ubuntu support question?
[23:19] <id10t> merlot, thanks for the confo
[23:19] <ohsix> Soothsayer: i presume the group is "www", no?
[23:19] <sdegutis> brb
[23:19] <id10t> ohsix, thats a great link, thanks
[23:19] <rgr> Soothsayer: I strongly recommend NOT doing that. Link back to your home directory files. Much easier to back then too.
[23:20] <rgr> back up
[23:20] <Juest> edit: i want, * grub config that update-grub generates * fix gnome
[23:20] <rgr> Just is clearly trolling.
[23:20] <Soothsayer> ohsix, the var/www 's owner is root in the Properties dialog for that directory
[23:20] <hiexpo> id10t, www.linux.com
[23:20] <Juest> :(
[23:20] <bazhang> Juest, fix gnome? please clarify
[23:20] <ohsix> rgr: apache doens't follow symlinks by default, and you have to setup mod_userdir otherwise
[23:20] <Soothsayer> rgr, hmm.. that also sounds like a good option
[23:20] <rgr> Soothsayer: please read why i said. Dont go adding users to www-data etc until you know what you're doing. Use a symbolic link for now.
[23:21] <id10t> hiexpo, www.linux.com is a different site
[23:21] <rgr> You will thank me in the long run if you nede to reinstall etc ;)
[23:21] <Soothsayer> rgr, yup, I'm reading you.
[23:21] <Mannequin> hi. Just upgraded to 11.04 (from 10.10). The process was pretty smooth, although Grub2 just exploded (it boot into grub rescue mode)
[23:21] <ohsix> whatever you do, don't change permissions on those files, change the users you want to access those files
[23:21] <Juest> my gnome 2.32 got broken because of gnome3. and nothing works, only /usr/share/applications/*.desktop
[23:21] <kingofswords> hi am i here?
[23:21] <Mannequin> thankfully, I've already solved it
[23:21] <hiexpo> id10t, there is a linux.org/uk
[23:21] <Jordan_U> !gnome3 | Juest
[23:21] <rgr> does sound pretty smooth to me ;) I guess epxectations have changed ;)
[23:21] <Juest> and it fails to confifure
[23:21] <Soothsayer> rgr: So change the apache config of symlink /var/www to go to a directory under my home directory ?
[23:21] <ohsix> Soothsayer: theres a ubuntu server guide to setup and do most tasks with apache as well
[23:21] <rgr> s/does/doesn't
[23:22] <Mannequin> but, of course, a non tech-saavy user will have a hard time if the same happens after she upgrades to 11.04
[23:22] <Juest> is not supported but is there and is not ppa
[23:22] <rgr> or put in a link in var/www to point back.
[23:22] <Juest> i am using maverick
[23:22] <jigynet> so we are stuck with an unsupported gui...
[23:22] <rgr> me, I point the links in my vhost files back to my home dir.
[23:22] <jigynet> thats wonderful!! way to go ubuntu!
[23:22] <ohsix> Soothsayer: i suggest reading the user guide, it tells you  how to setup virtual hosts, and they can store their files in your user directory; don't go modifying the in place files
[23:22] <id10t> gnome3 should work great under a virtual box
[23:22] <kingofswords> cant get tucan manager to add links?
[23:22] <Juest> yeah, but gnome3 replacing gnome 2.32?
[23:23] <Mannequin> so far, it seems to run pretty smooth
[23:23] <Soothsayer> ohsix, ye, I'm looking at those. Well, I just have one default virtual-host which I'll be using
[23:23] <ProfessorBacon> i can't get used to unity
[23:23] <ProfessorBacon> will there always be an "ubuntu-classic"?
[23:23] <Juest> gnome3 upgrading*
[23:23] <id10t> ProfessorBacon: you can switch your default desktop back to classic
[23:23] <ohsix> Soothsayer: then use the tools to do it :D don't stick symlinks in random places
[23:23] <Mannequin> the only "issue" is that changing desktop background image makes the system *really sluggish* during the image transition (fade in/out)
[23:23] <rgr> Soothsayer: e.g a vhost file enabled using a2ensite : http://pastebin.com/rhBmibKG
[23:23] <ProfessorBacon> id10t: yeah, i'm just scared it will disappear in future releases
[23:23] <ohsix> Soothsayer: i suggest leaving the default and creating a site for the actual host it'll be reachable by
[23:24] <id10t> ProfessorBacon: i hope not, its nice to fall back on
[23:24] <rgr> that vhost is stored "locally" as well and symlinked to from sites-available.
[23:24] <Lxndr> I upgraded from 10.10 to 11.04 on my laptop. However, now whenever I start the laptop, it gives me a splash screen that says "Ubuntu studio Linux for creative humans" and does not move past that point. Please help me get back on my computer. Please?
[23:24] <Soothsayer> rgr, ye, and is shamrockirishbar.com an entry in your host file? (I'm setting up a development server here)
[23:24] <Soothsayer> ohsix, makes sense.
[23:24] <ohsix> Soothsayer: it's important to never mess with deployed files permissions, they come from the maintainer and are set appropriately, you might introduce a security problem changing them
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> ProfessorBacon:  That is the nice part about the linux community... even if Ubuntu stops supporting Gnome 2 there will be others willing to help get it installed
[23:24] <rgr> no its an external site.
[23:25] <rgr> but can be of course.
[23:25] <notlistening> <-- is happy he has caught a few bugs tonight
[23:25] <ProfessorBacon> without the window selector widget, my multimonitor setup gets confusing fast
[23:25] <Juest> well, what i have to do to make the package configuration work? and is gnome the thing that i am having troubles with
[23:25] <drawmeat> Hey everyone, does anyone know where i can find step by step instructions from installing a runable version of xubuntu on a usb drive.
[23:25] <bazhang> Juest, what package configuration?
[23:26] <bazhang> drawmeat, pendrivelinux.com
[23:26] <CONTECIN> ?
[23:26] <Juest> the one that's is done with debpkg/apt-get
[23:26] <Juest> some gnome packages have this trouble
[23:26] <drawmeat> bazhang, you are a wonderful and undoubtedly sexy human being
[23:26] <Juest> so i can't fully configure it
[23:27] <id10t> well I'm off, bye all
[23:27] <Soothsayer> ohsix, rgr: ok got it. So I'll setup a virtualhost with some dummy domain name like soothsayer.com and add it to my host files. For someone to externally access it, I'll add an alias for the external domain.
[23:27] <syrinx__> is the OMG natty guide having issues?  seems like all the links (dash, launcher, etc) point to the same page
[23:27] <notlistening> Am I right thinking that banshee is the default player now?
[23:27] <Juest> umm, no helpings ???
[23:28] <Jordan_U> !details | Juest
[23:28] <arrrghhh> notlistening, yes
[23:28] <notlistening> Great move ubuntu :D
[23:28] <jigynet> is there a wubi channel?
[23:28] <Guest84397> server #irc.efnet.net
[23:28] <bazhang> jigynet, nope
[23:28] <jigynet> =/
[23:28] <ohsix> notlistening: it has a "Recommends" in ubuntu-desktop, that's all it amounts to ;]
[23:29] <hiexpo> Jordan_U, pm
[23:29] <Jordan_U> hiexpo: Sure.
[23:29] <jigynet> i attempted to make a ntfsswap in windows, but linux doesnt have access to it, not even listed in gpart
[23:29] <kingofswords> any 1 recommend download mgr?
[23:29] <Lxndr> Okay, I guess nobody can help me. :( I'll try the forums, I guess.
[23:30] <rgr> kingofswords: for what?
[23:30] <jigynet> says there are 3 partitions blocked or secured..
[23:30] <Juest> ok, i am using ubuntu 10.10 in a virtualbox, i am having troubles with audio, gnome, grub/lilo and compiz. any logs? and how to use sys-v?
[23:30] <kingofswords> for downloading
[23:30] <rgr> ok... have fun.
[23:30] <Juest> lol?
[23:30] <kingofswords> oh sorry 4 ubuntu
[23:30] <bazhang> Juest, why would you need lilo for virtualbox
[23:31] <Juest> well, uinstalling lilo right now
[23:31] <bazhang> Juest, answer my question please
[23:31] <notlistening> kingofswords, what you downloading from where?
[23:31] <tommylommykins> ohai
[23:31] <tommylommykins> my netbook won't run unity
[23:31] <pragmaticenigma> anybody have any good solutions to getting 11.04 and a broadcom 4306 wireless card working? all the tutorials I find for 43xx only work with 4312 and up
[23:32] <tommylommykins> it complains about missing 3d drivers/hardware
[23:32] <tommylommykins> is there any way I can force it?
[23:32] <tommylommykins> well, not missing
[23:32] <tommylommykins> crappy
[23:32] <rgr> bazhang: he is trolling
[23:32] <kingofswords> oh from mediashare
[23:32] <Juest> ok, now it dosen't matter because i unistalled lilo
[23:32] <zise> test for irc
[23:32] <rgr> kingofswords: think a little. what browser for example.
[23:32]  * Juest is not trolling
[23:32] <kingofswords> firefox
[23:32] <zise> ubuntu 11.04
[23:32] <TrentonAdams> hey guys, I'd like to hook into gnome's auto mount system, from a shell script, to be able to back up my android SD card automatically every time I connect.
[23:33] <jigynet> tommy it sounds like a chipset may need to be installed or re-installed what does lspci report
[23:33] <kingofswords> is chromium better for restarting dls rgr?
[23:33] <TrentonAdams> Any ideas on how to do that?
[23:33] <codeFiend> hi all
[23:33] <codeFiend> i'm having problems installing from usb image
[23:33] <codeFiend> ubuntu 11.04 onto an exopc tablet
[23:33] <tommylommykins> that's a point, I am actually missing drivers
[23:33] <kingofswords> i have tucan dl mgr but it wont start
[23:33] <jigynet> and pls try to keep as much details on one line pls.
[23:33] <sdegutis> /me cant help with that issue, sorry
[23:33] <rgr> right kingofswords , there are multiple download managers for firefox, all easily tried. Why not attempt to see what you like from the firefox add ons?
[23:33] <Lxndr> I am using Ubuntu 11.04, having just done the internal upgrade from Ubuntu 10.10. It is on my laptop. I am attempting to start up my laptop after the upgrade. Unfortunately, it APPEARS to start correctly. However, it hangs on a splash screen that says Ubuntu is for creative humans, and does not give me any ability to further interact with the program. Can anyone help?
[23:33] <codeFiend> it never even hits the installer, just hangs there with 'CPU1 is not responding' message
[23:33] <^Mike> Is GNOME 3 stable on ubuntu? The PPA has warnings that demons will fly out your nose, but I've heard it runs ok...
[23:33]  * tommylommykins -> sorting things out
[23:34] <kingofswords> rgr thx
[23:34] <codeFiend> anyone see that error before? any tips on where to look for help?
[23:34] <ikonia> ^Mike: the PPA's are unsupport, ask the maintainer
[23:34] <notlistening> kingofsword, have you thought to use wget?
[23:34] <rgr> ^Mike: not its not stable. far from it.
[23:34] <sdegutis> /me prefers curl to wget :)
[23:34] <jigynet> tommy yup drivers wont be installed if hw is not detected..with some integrated gfx if not dont in step...will not install properly
[23:34] <ikonia> sdegutis: can you stop with the "/me" attempts please - just talk
[23:34] <rgr> nolistening that is silly advice for a noob who is using a browser to access download site ;)
[23:34] <jigynet> done
[23:34] <kingofswords> yeh i got a bit list of dl mgr other day..just didnt know which was any good
[23:35] <rgr> kingofswords: very subjective.
[23:35] <rgr> try them. Its so easy.
[23:35] <kingofswords> notlistening, ill try that one afterwhat rgr suggested
[23:35] <^Mike> rgr: ok, thanks for the warning
[23:35] <rgr> read the reviews
[23:35] <kingofswords> rgr firefox couldnt retrieve any dl mgr addons
[23:35] <jigynet> tommy i believe your hardware is supported
[23:35] <notlistening> kingofswords, sudo apt-get install multiget
[23:35] <asdf_msc> so getlibs comes up as bad quality, anyone used it?
[23:35] <tommylommykins> jigynet: Will this have changed between ubuntu 10.10 and 11.04? 10.10 and below has always found all drivers that I need automatically..
[23:36] <rgr> using wget or curl is plain silly since you will frequently still want to click, confirm and download. Most use wget or curl underneatha nyway. They are no more efficient whatsoever.
[23:36] <Solnse> Since I upgraded to 11, ubuntu hangs while booting.... the last thing I see is "checking battery state..." I think the problem is related to my graphics driver because I am able to boot into failsafe, low graphics mode. How can I upgrade my graphics driver to see if it fixes the problem?
[23:36] <kingofswords> nothingspecial, thx
[23:36] <jigynet> hmm..
[23:36] <jigynet> 11 is quite new
[23:36] <tommylommykins> ooh, also, is gnome-3 worth using on 11.04?
[23:36] <guntbert> !gnome3 | tommylommykins
[23:37] <rgr> sometimes I really despair at people telling noobs to use things like wget. its as if you want to confuse them and screw up their acceptance of a *GUI* Linux distro.
[23:37] <adzy> does anyone know if i format my ubuntu partition will it remove grub also?
[23:37] <tommylommykins> oh
[23:37] <ikonia> adzy: no, grub is on the mbr
[23:37] <tommylommykins> with that in mind, try it in a VM first?
[23:37] <jigynet> ? when does 11 expire? how supported is itt? i know it's quite a work of art!?
[23:37] <kneaux> ...Can somebody tell me how I'm supposed to use this new version of Ubuntu? All my context menus have been taken away from me, and the new Help is completely unnavigable.
[23:37] <luigi_panache> Hello... I've never used IRC and I'm in need of help with a headless server. Who and where should I ask for help?
[23:37] <arrrghhh> jigynet, i assume you mean how long is it supported for...?
[23:37] <adzy> ikonia, mbr? excuse my lack of knowledge ;)
[23:37] <[segfault]> Getting the hang of Unity here, but it seems rather sluggish to show the new side bar.  Anyone know of a setting to change the delay of the unity bar to something less?  It takes almost a full second to come up atm.
[23:37] <kingofswords> im dling rom for my phone which i use as modem but its only dling 3k/s...nothing dodgy
[23:37] <zvacet> jigynet: 18 months for natty
[23:37] <jigynet> arrrghhh, yes
[23:38] <guntbert> luigi_panache: try #ubuntu-server
[23:38] <ikonia> luigi_panache: just ask
[23:38] <ikonia> adzy: no problem "master boot record" small chunk of disk that your machine boots from
[23:38] <jigynet> zvacet, sweet
[23:38] <coz_> luigi_panache,  definitly here and also  you could try ##linux channel ,, where you type here type  /join ##linux
[23:38] <arrrghhh> jigynet, looks like until october of 2012
[23:38] <kingofswords> why wont my firefox find any addons?
[23:39] <Fr33d0m> Anyone knowo how to get the Liferea icon back into the top panel in Natty?
[23:39] <adzy> ikonia, so if i format my partition and install ubuntu 11.04 will it update my grub ?
[23:39] <arrrghhh> kingofswords, any?  you're going thru tools -> addons -> extensions?
[23:39] <pragmaticenigma> !ask | luigi_panache
[23:39] <arrrghhh> kingofswords, sorry, the first one.  get addons.
[23:39] <ikonia> adzy: if you install 11.04 grub will get re-applied to the mbr, so "yes" in a basic answer to your question
[23:39] <zvacet> adzy	: yes if you put it on mbr
[23:39] <Ultimate_Chaos> MESSAGE TO ALL: my system is updateing but it wont connect to the internet
[23:39] <kingofswords> arrrghhh, yeh tools>addons
[23:40] <Solnse> Can somebody point me in the right direction please? Since I upgraded to 11, ubuntu hangs while booting.... the last thing I see is "checking battery state..." I think the problem is related to my graphics driver because I am able to boot into failsafe, low graphics mode. How can I upgrade my graphics driver to see if it fixes the problem?
[23:40] <adzy> ikonia, thanks for your help
[23:40] <adzy> zvacet, thanks
[23:40] <ikonia> Ultimate_Chaos: don't need all user messages, if you have a question, ask
[23:40] <pragmaticenigma> Ultimate_Chaos: are you upgrading using the CD?
[23:40] <arrrghhh> kingofswords, i assume FF can connect to websites no prob?  have you tried thru addons.mozilla.org?
[23:40] <Ultimate_Chaos> MESSAGE TO ALL: [Network: Unmanaged]
[23:40] <Ultimate_Chaos> no
[23:40] <zvacet> adzy: say tnx to ikonia
[23:40] <sam04938475> hey   im using 10.10   how do upgrade to the latest version?   sorry for a dull qustion  i tried the alt f2 thing.
[23:40] <adzy> zvacet, i did ;)
[23:40] <arrrghhh> lol
[23:40] <kingofswords> arrrghhh, yeh no probelms
[23:40] <jigynet> lol, i'm d/ling seamonkey at 1kbps hmm  must be busy...
[23:40] <zvacet> adzy:  8-)
[23:40] <dtulchin> i have a question, after upgrading to 11.04, my compiz options for edges are gone...i try to install simplecompiz and it tells me i cant .... (options for effects like minimize all screens, see all desktops, etc.)
[23:40] <kingofswords> and i m on addons tab
[23:41] <Ultimate_Chaos> ...
[23:41] <luigi_panache> How do I private message someone here?
[23:41] <jigynet> lol
[23:41] <ikonia> luigi_panache: best to just ask the channel
[23:41] <Ultimate_Chaos> can someone help me fix this issue then?
[23:41] <pragmaticenigma> luigi_panache: Do not PM people, instead ask your question in the main room so others can benefit from the solution
[23:41] <schnuffle> luigi_panache:  /msg <nick> <message, ask before you pm
[23:41] <zvacet> sam04938475: from updates manager but be sure that 10.10 is up-to-date
[23:41] <notlistening> sam, can you open a terminal?
[23:41] <Juest> luigi_panache: or /q <nick>
[23:41] <Fr33d0m> ?
[23:42] <pragmaticenigma> Ultimate_Chaos: Is your network being unavailable stopping you from performing the upgrade?
[23:42] <sam04938475> zvacet,   notlistening    i am using the most upto date i just did a upgrade.  and yeah i can get into terminal X
[23:42] <tommylommykins> is there an IRC channel for unity, or does #ubuntu count?L
[23:42] <kingofswords> multiget doesnt work either
[23:42] <ikonia> tommylommykins: unity on ubuntu is supported here
[23:42] <kingofswords> its http://download982.mediafire.com/gqq78pkjt80g/wt7nwyubj2i4cu6/Japanese_Jellyfish_RLS9.zip link..is that right
[23:42] <nulled> I Love Ubuntu 11.04
[23:42] <jigynet> !unity > tommy
[23:42] <Juest> !unity | tommy
[23:42] <jigynet> hehe, i'm such a noob
[23:43] <notlistening> sam04938475, so you running the most up to date 10.10 and want to upgrade to 11.04?
[23:43] <notlistening> sam04938475, or did i misunderstand
[23:43] <SeanInSeattle> I'm super confused on what to do.  I've just upgraded my personal laptop to 11.04, and I can't login.  Can someone point me in the right direction?  I've got an asus u81a laptop
[23:43] <sam04938475> notlistening,   thats right.  im running 10.10.
[23:43] <sam04938475> notlistening,   want to upgrade to 11.04
[23:43] <dtulchin> i have a question, after upgrading to 11.04, my compiz options for edges are gone...i try to install simplecompiz and it tells me i cant .... (options for effects like minimize all screens, see all desktops, etc.)
[23:43] <tommylommykins> what is the overall stability of unity considered to be?
[23:43] <dtulchin> i removed unity desktop dui
[23:43] <dtulchin> *gui
[23:43] <kingofswords> does any1 know  a file mgr that actually works?
[23:43] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, what are you getting now?
[23:44] <notlistening> sam04938475, okay here we go you got that terminal warmed up yet?
[23:44] <ghostnappa> Hey guys
[23:44] <dtulchin> i'm trying to get edges to work...
[23:44] <sam04938475> notlistening   aye!  lol
[23:44] <ghostnappa> I have a problem, and a rather specific one
[23:44] <nulled> unity is stable...there are some MINOR graphical glitches but other than that very stable
[23:44] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  I get a frozen screen.  Oh, and btw:  I don't even have to try and login, it freezes a min or two after having loaded the login screen.
[23:44] <arrrghhh> ghostnappa, just ask.  don't ask to ask.
[23:44] <asdf_msc> okay i've got 64 bit nvidia driver, and ia32 shared libraries. what other 32 bit libraries are there that i would need for 32 bit WoW?
[23:45] <TrentonAdams> hey guys, I'm using ubuntu 11.04 my whole system is using the standard theme (dark title bars with orange X, etc.  But, my menu system uses it for just a little while, while logging in, then it switches back to an old windows 3.1 style super 3d buttons look.  Any ideas?
[23:45] <coz_> TrentonAdams,  log off and back on again
[23:45] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, did you finish the upgrade process or you interrupted it? did you update your previous ubuntu?
[23:45] <benk20001> network (ethernet + wifi) stopped working after upgrading to 11.04. forums answers didn't work. Please help!
[23:45] <ghostnappa> okay, so on my main PC, various shmup games seem to be uncontrollable. Most think that I am holding up+left, but rrootage just doesn't move at all
[23:45] <TrentonAdams> coz_: done that MANY times, doesn't do anything.
[23:45] <jakerue> I updated from 10.10 to 11.04 yesterday but my graphics card doesn't support Unity.  I got an error message tossing me back into gnome2 yesterday but when I boot I get into gnome and now I cannot seem to access my data folders.  All my browsers give seg faults (except opera) and now in xfce I can operate but cannot access my home folder at all.  Get error Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[23:45] <coz_> TrentonAdams,  oh!!  mm which video card?
[23:46] <pragmaticenigma> TrentonAdams: disable the desktop effects, your system is going into graphics safe mode
[23:46] <ghostnappa> it happens on ubuntu variants, fedora, and every other linux install that I have tried
[23:46] <kingofswords> i want to dl file from rapidshare can i do this in a download mgr?
[23:46] <ghostnappa> so it isn't just ubuntu exclusive
[23:46] <TrentonAdams> coz_: Not sure, but it was working in 10.10, just a sec, I'll look
[23:46] <Fr33d0m> How do I get the Liferea Icon to show in the top panel
[23:46] <coz_> TrentonAdams, ok  is this an upgrade?
[23:46] <TrentonAdams> pragmaticenigma: if it was doing that, why do all the other windows work?
[23:46] <TrentonAdams> coz_: yes upgrade
[23:46] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: Yes, I finished the upgrade.   I didn't interrupt anything.  Do you mean, "did [I] reboot asap after it told me to?" answer: no, I didn't.
[23:47] <coz_> TrentonAdams,   ok open a terminal and type   lspci | grep -i vga
[23:47] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: I waited a couple of hours.
[23:47] <dtulchin> anyone know how to get edges to work in ubuntu 11.04 without unity?
[23:47] <jakerue> I tried every single option including ubuntu classic and safe mode but same unresponsive desktop...only xfce lets me do anything
[23:47] <TrentonAdams> coz_: yeah, was about to do that, just a sec.
[23:47] <TrentonAdams> coz_: ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon HD 3650
[23:47] <sdegutis> hello :)
[23:47] <TrentonAdams> coz_: I'm not using the proprietary drive
[23:47] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, then reboot... :o tell us what happens then
[23:47] <TrentonAdams> coz_: Or, I don't think I switched to that.
[23:48] <luigi_panache> My headless server running 11.04 is currently unable to get online via ethernet. I upgraded from 10.10 last night, and once do-release-upgrade finished I just went to sleep, hoping the server would be alright in the morning. Now, I have a monitor and keyboard hooked up to the server, but no amount of ifconfig, ifup, or anything will make either of the computer's connections work. Before upgrading to 11.04, I also moved my LVM root from a 3 disk pa
[23:48] <luigi_panache> ta RAID 5 array to a single SATA hard drive, which required a lot of tweaking of GRUB2 and I think may have affected boot time errors, but I'm not sure. And that's my situation.
[23:48] <coz_> TrentonAdams,  mm  ok I know nothing about ati,, I was hoping it was nvidia because then I would suggest uninstalling that driver then reinstalling since it most likely a different driver version..hoewver for ati I  have no idea
[23:48] <manOwl> I am sorry for ranting earlier
[23:48] <coz_> TrentonAdams,  the problems with upgrades is many times old config files are left behind
[23:48] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: I've done that many times, and the same thing occurs:  it loads like normal until loading up the login page, and then it runs a bit slower than normal... next I try and login, and it freezes.  If I don't try to login and just wait a little bit, it still freezes.
[23:49] <isarl> Hi all. I'm having some trouble with nouveau and Unity after my recent upgrade to 11.04.  I'm comfortable in the commandline to troubleshoot it, but not sure what to do at the moment.  Any help?
[23:49] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: it seems like the graphics card settings are set too high.... or something....
[23:49] <benk20001> please help - network doesn't work after upgrading to 11.04
[23:49] <ghostnappa> okay, so on my main PC, various shmup games seem to be uncontrollable. Most think that I am holding up+left, but rrootage just doesn't move at all. it happens on ubuntu variants, fedora, and every other linux install that I have tried so it isn't just ubuntu exclusive. Testing in a liveCD environment between two seperate PC's reveals that this is only a problem with my PC and not the other one. This is a problem with na
[23:49] <ghostnappa> tive games, WINE, and MAME. But seems to only be effecting games with joystick support
[23:49] <TrentonAdams> coz_: I deleted .gnome* and that did nothing.
[23:49] <manOwl> usually I set the key /apps/metacity/general/button_layout in gconf to move my window buttons to the right
[23:49] <hiexpo> thats why a fresh install is always better
[23:49] <manOwl> but in unity, when I maximize a window
[23:49] <manOwl> the buttons move to the left of the top bar!
[23:50] <manOwl> so if I move my buttons to the right, then maximize.. all my buttons move to the left!?
[23:50] <Ultimate_Chaos> no with is weird i can still upgrade even though the network isnt managed
[23:50] <manOwl> is there another key?
[23:50] <TrentonAdams> coz_: but if it was a "driver issue" then why the windows look fine, but the menu/task bar system don't?
[23:50] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, ok, easy... reboot | press SHIFT after bios messages and then select the second option on the top (recovery menu)
[23:50] <Ultimate_Chaos> i still want to be able to use firefox
[23:50] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: will do.
[23:50] <kingofswords> is there an android channel?
[23:50] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: what then?
[23:50] <coz_> TrentonAdams,  good question ,,but I dont have a good answer for you ,, sorry
[23:50] <arrrghhh> kingofswords, #android
[23:50] <coz_> brb
[23:50] <zvacet> TrentonAdams: see under applications>system additional drivers can you install from there
[23:51] <trailoryo> why wont videos play on youtube in firefox 4?
[23:51] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, then, select on that recovery menu dpkg | clean | grub | finally failsafeX .. wait...
[23:51] <kingofswords> arrrghhh, thx
[23:51] <arrrghhh> trailoryo, you have FF installed?
[23:51] <arrrghhh> er flash... sorry
[23:51] <Ultimate_Chaos> stupid computer
[23:51] <TrentonAdams> coz_: I'm going to try and do the disable effects thing, and see what happens.
[23:51] <Ultimate_Chaos> at least upgradeing works
[23:52] <th0r> Ultimate_Chaos: close, it is really 'stupid computer operator'
[23:52] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, select Reconfigure then Use default (generic) then OK then CANCEL, then Restart X. reboot when you get the login
[23:52] <kingofswords> any where u dont have 2 be reg'd
[23:52] <TrentonAdams> zvacet: looking, just a sec
[23:52] <Ultimate_Chaos> th0r: dant be like that
[23:52] <arrrghhh> kingofswords, register your nick, you really should.
[23:52] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, got everything?
[23:52] <Ultimate_Chaos> im just trying to connect to the internet
[23:52] <trailoryo> anyone knows why videos wont play on youtube in firefox 4? ;/
[23:53] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: working on it, had to reboot a second time because I wasn't holding shift down....
[23:53] <Juest> hi, i am using ubuntu 10.10 in a virtualbox and i am having troubles with audio (not working properly gmixer stays at "waiting for sound system"), gnome, grub and compiz. is there any logs where i can get more info to give?
[23:53] <TrentonAdams> zvacet: I'm going to try disabling effects, then do the new driver.
[23:53] <TrentonAdams> be back
[23:53] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, ok. don't precipitate urself, go easy
[23:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay ill be proefessional
[23:53] <zvacet> TrentonAdams: you have problem just wit h task bar or
[23:53] <Juest> gnome: i installed something that broken the whole gnome
[23:53] <Limada> Hi everybody. Hope you can help me. Does anyone know how can I go back to Ubuntu 10.10?
[23:53] <Barnabas> Juest, I had the same issue
[23:53] <Juest> really?
[23:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> okay
[23:53] <Ultimate_Chaos> with it in a vritualbox
[23:53] <tommylommykins> hmm
[23:53] <luigi_panache> Can anyone help me get my server back online? It just refuses to accept that it has two ethernet ports...
[23:53] <tommylommykins> right
[23:54] <rzx237> trailoryo: no flash installed, or proxy block the video streaming
[23:54] <th0r> Juest: the logs will be in /var/log. You might also try running gmixer from a terminal to see if you get any error messages
[23:54] <Barnabas> Juest, try changing the mixing method in pulseaudio
[23:54] <tommylommykins> is using ccsm a bad idea with unity?
[23:54] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: lol.  What should I do, run ubuntu in low graphics, reconfigure graphics, troubleshoot, or exit to console?
[23:54] <zvacet> Limada: reinstall it
[23:54] <Juest> Barnabas: what iusse?
[23:54] <tommylommykins> because I appear to have broken it
[23:54] <tommylommykins> somewhat permamently
[23:54] <Juest> oh
[23:54] <Ultimate_Chaos> you need to make sure you enabled 3d graphhc acceleration
[23:54] <Lxndr> I am using Ubuntu 11.04, having just done the internal upgrade from Ubuntu 10.10. It is on my laptop. I am attempting to start up my laptop after the upgrade. Unfortunately, it APPEARS to start correctly. However, it hangs on a splash screen that says Ubuntu is for creative humans, and does not give me any ability to further interact with the program. Can anyone help?
[23:54] <ChronicSyncope> tommylommykins, seems that way
[23:54] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, Reconfigure Graphics
[23:54] <Barnabas> Juest, in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf:
[23:54] <tommylommykins> ChronicSyncope: What do you mean? ccsm does break unity?
[23:54] <Juest> Barnabas: ah thank you
[23:55] <Limada> zvacet, thanks for your answer but if I knew how, I wouldn' t ask.
[23:55] <Barnabas> change resample-method = speex-float-1 to resample-method = auto
[23:55] <Barnabas> reboot
[23:55] <Ultimate_Chaos> _-¯\_(O¿O)_/¯-_}
[23:55] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, so you didn't see what i wrote... then Use Default (generic) | OK | |CANCEL | Restart X
[23:55] <ChronicSyncope> tommylommykins, I tried using it with unity and it broke unity until I restarted... I tried using it without unity ("classic desktop") and it works much better
[23:55] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: reconfiguring loops on the "how would you like to reconfigure your display..."
[23:55] <tommylommykins> ok
[23:55] <Juest> Barnabas: i can't reboot, got troubles with grub/lilo
[23:55] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: sorry, the screen scrolls by fast on my wife's netbook....
[23:56] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, it loops??? or you get a new dialog with 3 options?
[23:56] <tommylommykins> In that case, what do I need to use to make simple changes to unity? I want to reduce the transparency in the background of terminal windows.
[23:56] <Tincho> Hi. I am looking for help with an 3d accel. issue. Using natty, ati radeon RS690M, already tried disabling KMS, the X edgers, etc, with no improvements. My glxinfo says I am using the hardware renderer, but nothing that uses 3d works, unless I disable the KMS or force software rendering. Anybody can throw me a rope?
[23:56] <Barnabas> Juest, must be grub OR lilo?
[23:56] <zvacet> Limada: install maverick again on same partition where is natty now back up your files before
[23:56] <SeanInSeattle> lcb:  I get the same dialog with the same three options, regardless which one I choose.
[23:56] <kingofswords> how do i sign in to reg'd name
[23:56] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, ok, no probs. after Reconfigure Graphics select Use Default Config
[23:57] <isarl> kingofswords: on IRC?  /msg NickServ identify <password>
[23:57] <TrentonAdams> zvacet: Yeah, just the menu/task bar, other windows are fine
[23:57] <kingofswords> thx
[23:57] <Juest> i don't know exactly but i am trying to use lilo and i need to build lilo.conf by hand and i don't remember how
[23:57] <isarl> kingofswords: more info: /msg NickServ help identify
[23:57] <Barnabas> Juest, anyway, you can probably make do with restaring pulseaudio
[23:57] <daniel32708> I just installed a fresh 11.04 64 bit on a Toshiba satellite A665 (4core, 4gbddr3,nvidia,etc).  I am running the Unity interface.  Suddenly, the whole system crashes (seems to be very random...but i cant get past an hour). Am I the only one getting this? is a bug? any suggestions?
[23:57] <TrentonAdams> zvacet: even my KDE based windows look great. :P
[23:57] <daniel32708> **it freezes
[23:57] <Limada> zvacet, ok. I'll do that. Thanks!
[23:57] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: can I reconfigure the graphics once I've booted into low-graphics mode?
[23:57] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, the dialogs looks alike, so put attention on the options i write. Use Default Configuration
[23:58] <Evildaemon> Is there a way to set up WLAN so that a computer is on my network but not on the internet?
[23:58] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, no
[23:58] <zvacet> TrentonAdams: maybe you can do something with ccsm but I´m not expert
[23:58] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, did you select to run in low graphic mode?
[23:58] <zvacet> Limada: np and good luck  :)
[23:58] <Juest> Evildaemon: ys
[23:58] <Evildaemon> How?
[23:59] <SeanInSeattle> lcb: not yet, but I'm don't seem to be able to get past this screen:  "How would you like to reconfigure your display?"  1) use default, 2) create new, or 3) use backup.
[23:59] <Limada> zvacet ;). Thanks, I'll need it XD.
[23:59] <someone235> when i try to open a file from the recent document, ubuntu is trying to open it with nautilus and say "Could not display "/home/someone235/blabla.docx\nThe location is not a folder."
[23:59] <nimrod10> how do I reinstall firefox 3.6 ? Firefox 4 is not working on maverick i386 for me.
[23:59] <zvacet> Limada: you will be ok
[23:59] <Juest> Evildaemon: yes but it's someway too complicated because the default is automatic
[23:59] <lcb> SeanInSeattle, Use Default. and you are doing right, don't do anything before coming here
[23:59] <hiexpo> Evildaemon, there is a network in places set it up
[23:59] <kingofswords> ok why is my firefox dl addons not working