[05:02] <ball> hello alkisg
[05:02] <alkisg> Good morning
[06:03] <ball> Does the Edubuntu install generally produce a black screen and no evident disk activity?
[06:24] <ball> Ah, I'm told that's a Natty thing.
[07:19]  * ball gives up on Edubuntu, for now.
[08:30] <alkisg> Is there an edubuntu 10.04.2 installation DVD available?
[14:17] <revButtle> i do not wish to explore no less than the full capacity open source software can provide for the totality of my educational wishes & needs, please advise, respectfully, thank you for your time
[14:20] <revButtle> this general question if answered intelligently is of no small positive recompense, so if something i say isn't clear don't hesitate to seek my aid in establishing an educated response to the education potential of education related open source software, respectfully, thank you for your time; i am not a bot
[14:22] <revButtle> i do not know how to measure the potential of the open source software library in ensuring psychological/material security and harmlessness of any particular situation in general, please advise, respectfully i thank you for your time
[14:30] <revButtle> if these questions already answered be kind enough to enlighten me :)
[14:33] <revButtle> say i wish to recover a lack of informatic prowess and essential knowledge
[14:36] <revButtle> so that my mind, body, lifestyle, world are not deprived of whatever aid i am capable of
[14:37] <revButtle> or whatever enrichment i could offer
[14:43] <revButtle> i do not know the measure or implementation of the maximal potential internet and society can do to enrich and aid the world
[15:09] <revButtle_> the return ping was tardy so i reloaded this;
[15:14] <revButtle> im not a philanthropist nor am i an activist i just don't want to have a computer for no more than entertainment but i don't see why i would need a computer or internet for the purposes i listed so maybe the only answer i need is something to shed light on my perspective; thank you for your time
[15:18] <revButtle> this is not a joke. _ .
[20:53] <doctormo> highvoltage: ping
[20:53] <highvoltage> doctormo: pong
[20:53] <doctormo> highvoltage: I've seen a handful of Edubuntu 11.04 reviews :-)
[20:53] <doctormo> And I have an idea for 11.10 release.
[20:54] <highvoltage> yep?
[20:55] <doctormo> highvoltage: We could either make a new concept for the 11.10 release, or we could progress the current wallpaper and refine it further.
[20:55] <doctormo> I'm also interested in your feelings now that it's out and you've gotten more responses.
[20:56] <alkisg> highvoltage: we don't have an 10.04.2 DVD, do we?
[20:57] <highvoltage> doctormo: at one point I was wondering if it's a good idea to perhaps start with a new wallpaper at LTS and then continue evolving the wallpaper until the next lts. but I havne't really thought it through completely. I like the idea of evolving the current one
[20:57] <highvoltage> alkisg: nope, I know I'm contradicting myself against my last line but since Edubuntu isn't technicall LTS we don't have point releases for lts
[20:58] <doctormo> alkisg: I guess without a support system, Edubuntu is really tailing ubuntu's support?
[20:59] <highvoltage> doctormo: you're talking to him, alkisg *is* our support system!
[20:59] <alkisg> Hehehe
[20:59] <doctormo> alkisg: So, 3 years!?
[21:00] <alkisg> Yup :)
[21:03] <alkisg> Some teacher here wants to show off LTSP to other teachers, and he wants to give them a live DVD to try out in their labs, to see if they'll work OK with Ubuntu
[21:03] <alkisg> I suggested edubuntu 10.04 to him, live ltsp works there, right?
[21:04] <alkisg> (we prefer LTS releases because we don't have enough human resources to support non-lts ones...)
[21:05] <vmlintu> highvoltage: do you know if there are going to be edubuntu sessions at UDS-O?
[21:08] <highvoltage> vmlintu: yep, stgraber is scheduling it.
[21:09] <highvoltage> alkisg: yep, live ltsp works on 10.04, but you just have to remember to let network manager settle down before starting it
[21:10] <highvoltage> alkisg: if they're trying live ltsp it's probably best to boot edubuntu from a flash disk rather than a DVD for performance reasons
[21:11] <vmlintu> highvoltage: are you going?
[21:12] <alkisg> Nice - it's just for testing the hardware so performance won't matter much
[21:12] <alkisg> Ty
[21:13] <highvoltage> vmlintu: flight, hotel, etc is booked. I'm just waiting on my visa, and it's cutting a bit close at the moment, but I haven't had problem with a visa to europe before and I think it's probably that I'll be there
[21:14] <vmlintu> ok, let's hope that it works out. I've been arranging to get there, but I have to admit that I don't know much of what is actually going on there.
[21:19] <stgraber> alkisg: if you want an up to date 10.04 DVD (as we don't have 10.04.2), you can always unpack the squashfs on the DVD, upgrade it and repack. Same thing is true for the LTSP chroot squashfs. Then just rebuild the ISO.
[21:19] <alkisg> Ah, cool, easy enough. Thanks stgraber :)
[21:20] <stgraber> alkisg: the mkisofs command to repack the ISO is the tricky bit, but can easily be found on google when looking for live cd customization
[21:21] <alkisg> I got that one, I had made a 9.10 live ltsp CD
[21:21] <alkisg> (with proxydhcp, but now that edubuntu has live ltsp I didn't bother to make a newer one ;))
[21:38] <doctormo> highvoltage: alkisg: thoughts on new art? http://doctormo.deviantart.com/#/d3fb519
[21:45]  * alkisg likes the art but doesn't get the concept
[22:27] <highvoltage> doctormo: I get "Deleted variation" when visiting that page
[23:34] <doctormo> highvoltage: Sorry http://fav.me/d3fcs0z
[23:39] <highvoltage> doctormo: I don't get it. I guess it's some alice in wonderland reference or something like that? :)
[23:39] <highvoltage> (looks good at least)
[23:40] <doctormo> highvoltage: Nope, some friends of mine bought their first house together, so I drew them a coat of arms. It's based on the art they make together.
[23:41] <doctormo> So nothing you'd get unless you're into the Boston music scene.
[23:41] <highvoltage> aah
[23:47] <doctormo> highvoltage: But the imagary is similar to the style you were after i guess.