[02:50] <robotman> are you on here jason?
[03:04] <JasonO> Alex?
[03:04] <robotman> yar
[03:04] <JasonO> Haha I missed that one.
[03:05] <robotman> lol
[03:05] <JasonO> robotman Just a sec
[03:05] <JasonO> robotman: MInd joing lubuntu-offtopic ?
[03:06] <JasonO> *joining
[03:06] <robotman> already did
[03:06] <JasonO> Oh :)
[08:39] <UBuxuBU> could someone tell me how to make lubuntu fill up my entire laptop scree...instead of just 60-70%??
[08:39] <UBuxuBU> ...annoying
[08:46] <mysteriousdarren> monitor issues?
[11:01] <theholder> HI is there a way to stop my laptop going to sleep when i put the screen down?
[15:04] <tomasz> i use now lubuntu , its there gnome too ?
[15:05] <MrChrisDruif> tomasz: Depends on which way you installed it :)
[15:06] <EagleScreen> hello
[15:06] <EagleScreen> I need to install Lubuntu by usb disk
[15:06] <tomasz> install normal version lubuntu 11.04 from usb
[15:07] <EagleScreen> i haven't a CD burner, how do I pass the .iso CD image to an USB?
[15:07] <tomasz> EagleScreen,  its there install icon
[15:07] <tomasz> EagleScreen,  use startup disk manager
[15:07] <tomasz> in administration menu
[15:08] <tomasz> it install iso to boot  pendrive
[15:08] <MrChrisDruif> EagleScreen: and if you are on Windows, use unetbootin
[15:08] <leszek> hi
[15:08] <EagleScreen> I uderstand, thanks
[15:09] <MrChrisDruif> tomasz: Not by default, but you can always install it with "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop"
[15:09] <tomasz> why lubuntu have big iso 700mb ? here is default less software than ubuntu
[15:10] <MrChrisDruif> Also you can choose to add the option "--no-install-recommends"
[15:11] <tomasz> ubuntu have for example libreoffice its take a place in iso
[15:11] <tomasz> lubuntu dont have
[15:11] <MrChrisDruif> tomasz: I do not know, maybe some lightweight apps have gotten a big install size?
[15:13] <MrChrisDruif> Big install size != heavy in use
[15:13] <tomasz> i dont know, i only ask i am begginer in ubuntu and i see is not so much software in default and here is light lxde but it still 700mb ;)
[15:13] <tomasz> maby install are big
[15:14] <tomasz> but lubuntu is more fast than ubuntu
[15:14] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe because gnome is better designed to work with each other, there for taking up less space. I don't know
[15:15] <leszek> tomasz: lubuntu ships more language support out of the box than ubuntu does
[15:15] <tomasz> maby is more small programs and i dont see it now, more administration than for normal users
[15:15] <leszek> so its basically so big because of all the languages supported and help files shipped
[15:16] <MrChrisDruif> leszek: Why is that? If even Ubuntu doesn't ship with them? Would make more room for other apps?
[15:17] <tomasz> lubuntu have normal tray not like unity ?
[15:17] <leszek> tomasz: yes normal one
[15:18] <tomasz> ok
[15:18] <leszek> MrChrisDruif: I don't think there is any app missing in lubuntu to fullfill its goal right now
[15:18] <EagleScreen> it is easy share folder with samba in Lubuntu?
[15:18] <tomasz> lubuntu use ext4 or ext3 ?
[15:19] <leszek> tomasz: ext4 by default, but you can use whatever you want
[15:19] <tomasz> ok thanks i see ext3 on pendrive so i ask
[15:19] <leszek> EagleScreen: I don't think the gnome sharing assistent is installed in lubuntu, and no pcmanfm does not have an implementation of samba sharing I guess
[15:22] <tomasz> is there some nice windows for lxde ?
[15:23] <tomasz> Onyx is nice
[15:25] <leszek> you mean window decor ?
[15:25] <tomasz> yes
[15:25] <leszek> you can find several on box-look.org if you search for openbox themes
[15:25] <tomasz> widgets and window
[15:25] <leszek> widgets are managed by gtk themes
[15:25] <leszek> so you need to set them up seperately
[15:26] <tomasz> nice thx
[15:50] <tomasz> how simple install skype ?
[15:51] <tomasz> ok i have
[15:52] <leszek> :)
[15:53] <MrChrisDruif> :D
[15:54] <tomasz> normal dont have in synaptic
[15:59] <tomasz> lxde realy fast work ;)
[16:03] <lee> hello, I am trying to run Lubuntu 10.4 (because of the X.org version required by the touchscreen driver). when I try to boot to the livecd the loading logo appears for about 30 seconds and then the screen goes blank; so I tried booting in safe graphics mode from the cd, and this time I get an "out of range" error from the monitor
[16:04] <lee> if I hit ctrl-alt-- twice then the desktop becomes visible, but I have to pan around to see the bottom panel. running xdpyinfo from a terminal claims it's running at 1024x768
[16:05] <lee> the monitor supports 1280x1024, so I'm not sure why a) that's not working normally, or b) why I have to pan around the screen to see sections of it at a time. can anybody shed any light on this?
[16:05] <tomasz> maby something with refresh of monitor hmm
[16:06] <lee> (ubuntu 10.10 works fine, but has an incompatible version of x.org)
[16:30] <tomasz> its ok when i have opengl render unknown ?
[16:31] <tomasz> how is possible one core works with 1333 and second 1733? ;)
[16:39] <tomasz> i have problem with chromium when i do open file in download folder i get new page html
[16:43] <tomasz> where i can found trash ?
[16:43] <leszek> tomasz: you get an html page when opening a zip or rar from chromium ?
[16:44] <tomasz> no when i open folder where is file , i download *.deb
[16:44] <leszek> tomasz: trash sits in the filemanager
[16:44] <tomasz> oh ok i have trash
[16:44] <leszek> tomasz: I understand. I think chromium only recognizes dolphin & nautilus as filemanagers
[16:45] <tomasz> oh i understand
[16:49] <leszek> tomasz: hmm... I found a lxde section for pcmanfm in /usr/bin/xdg-open (at the end of the file). Please post the last 20 lines of that file on a nopaste service
[16:49] <tomasz> how install deb.tar file ?
[16:50] <leszek> tomasz: whats a deb.tar file ?
[16:50] <tomasz> in lazarus site
[16:50] <leszek> a deb itself is an archive so why is it tarred ?
[16:50] <tomasz> http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/Lazarus%20Linux%20i386%20DEB/Lazarus%200.9.30/
[16:51] <leszek> tomasz: seems to me like a tar compressed deb file. Try extracting it with file-roller
[16:52] <tomasz> leszek r u speak poland?
[16:52] <leszek> no
[16:53] <tomasz> mam ten plik xdg-open
[16:54] <tomasz> case "$DE" in ...
[16:55] <tomasz> open_lxde "$url"
[16:55] <tomasz> i need change it for lxde in " "  ?
[16:58] <leszek> hmm... try adding this at the end: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601777/
[16:59] <leszek> save the file then with root rights
[16:59] <leszek> it should work then
[16:59] <leszek> I think we need to fix this for the next release. Please also file a bug for lubuntu on this.
[17:05] <tomasz> i change but always open in chromium
[17:07] <tomasz> maby after restart
[17:23] <tomasz> how create boot usb in lubuntu ?
[17:25] <leszek> tomasz: with usb-creator
[17:26] <tomasz> its default soft in ubuntu ?
[17:28] <leszek> I think yes
[17:32] <tomasz> usb-creator dont work with not-ubuntu iso ??
[17:34] <leszek> I don't know, I think it worked in debian
[17:36] <tomasz> i know but dont see me iso files
[17:36] <tomasz> only ubuntu iso
[17:38] <leszek> you have to choose the lubuntu.iso that you saved somewhere on your harddisk
[17:43] <tomasz> i know but i wont another linux install on usb
[17:47] <tomasz> ok unbootin works
[17:52] <deitarion> My mother did what she says was a "partial upgrade" a couple of days ago and found her Digikam missing (She's using Lubuntu with KDE bits) and now, when I try to re-install it, it refuses because things like kdebase-runtime aren't going to be installed rather than just pulling them in like it should.
[17:52] <deitarion> I'm a Gentoo guy so I don't have enough experience to know what this "Ask your administrator" "But I am the administrator" error really means.
[17:59] <linuxkeitaro> hey, just upgraded 11.04
[17:59] <linuxkeitaro> and lost the auto-login.  Editing /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf doesn't appear to have an effect
[17:59] <linuxkeitaro> am I doing something wrong?
[18:02] <siriusly> here I am wanting a fast window manager but the latest ubuntu for my old box and darn it...my nvidia (driver 96) legacy card wont work.....kind of defeats the object
[18:03] <deitarion> Figured it out. Tried using aptitude instead. When aptitude suggested the same solution as apt-get and I picked "no", it then suggested downgrading half of KDE from maverick-security to maverick so the other half (from maverick) would accept it.
[18:36] <tomasz> hi
[18:36] <tomasz> in lubuntu is system monitor?
[19:12] <leszek> tomasz: yes
[19:12] <leszek> just look at systemtools
[19:25] <KM0201> is there a way (if you're familiar w/ gnome or xfce) to combine all my open windows, into a single button (or meni).. on the panel?.. rather than having a row of tabs or icons across my panel
[19:27] <bioterror> I'm not getting this one
[19:27] <KM0201> ?
[19:27] <KM0201> not clear?
[19:27] <bioterror> you want a button which does what?
[19:27] <KM0201> ok... on xfce and gnome
[19:27] <KM0201> there's a panel button
[19:27] <KM0201> and when you click it, you get like a "menu" of open windows.. instead of having them spread all across the panel
[19:28] <Unit193> Right click lxpanel "Taskbar (Window List) Settings: check "Combine multiple application windows into the same button"
[19:28] <KM0201> it basically keeps the panel from looking clutter
[19:28] <Unit193> KM0201: ^^
[19:28] <KM0201> Unit193, thats not what i'm looking for
[19:28] <bioterror> KM0201, press middle button on desktop
[19:28] <KM0201> that only combines multiple windows of the same program, into one option
[19:28] <bioterror> mouse middle button
[19:28] <KM0201> bioterror, ah.. ok
[19:29] <KM0201> i cna deal w/ that
[19:29] <bioterror> is that what you're after?
[19:29] <KM0201> yup.. exactly
[19:29] <KM0201> it's just i'm used to it being a panel button
[19:29] <KM0201> but middle click works fine
[19:29] <bioterror> :-)
[19:30] <KM0201> now, how would i go about configuring my mic.
[19:30] <KM0201> cuz isn't alsamixer obsolute?
[19:31] <bioterror> nope
[19:31] <bioterror> alsa is not obsolete :)
[19:31] <bioterror> OSS is
[19:31] <KM0201> i tried installing pulse audio volume control (what i use in xfce), but it doesnj't seem tow ork w/ lxde
[19:31] <bioterror> lubuntu does not use pulseaudio
[19:31] <bioterror> AFAIK ;)
[19:31] <KM0201> ok.
[19:31] <KM0201> that makes sense then
[19:33] <KM0201> now if skype works.. i'm gonna probably switch
[19:35] <KM0201> you know, usually "fast" GUI's suck.
[19:35] <KM0201> they are either to "nerdy"... or they get bloated down
[19:36] <KM0201> lxde seems to be a good cross between functional, and fast
[19:38] <KM0201> skype works flawlessly
[19:38] <KM0201> great
[19:39] <KM0201> trying to think if there's anything else i need to test
[19:41] <bioterror> skype never works flawlessly :D
[19:41] <KM0201> bioterror, it does in my initial test.. which is all i can ask.. :)
[19:45] <KM0201> all right, gonna move some stuff to another partition, and start working on installing
[19:54] <KM0201> installatino has started.
[20:32] <tomasz> is some weather tray for lxde ?
[20:32] <tomasz> or widget
[21:33] <KM0201> anyone know why i would not have sound no sound?  it works fine, but no sound (sound in other apps is fine)
[21:35] <head_victim> KM0201: can you explain it a bit better sorry, I'm not following
[21:35] <KM0201> head_victim, just realized that didn't make any sense..lol
[21:36] <KM0201> Pidgin has no sound, sound in other apps works fine
[21:36] <KM0201> i've ot sound enabled.. i've tried changing the default sounds to some saved ones that i have (to see if that was the issue).. and none work
[21:36] <head_victim> KM0201: is there some sort of volume control within pidgin?
[21:36] <MrChrisDruif> KM0201: Are your sounds muted?
[21:36] <MrChrisDruif> You can mute the sounds from pidgin
[21:36] <KM0201> head_victim, yes, and its set to "normal"... (so i should be able to hear it).. and no, sounds are not muted.. checked both of those
[21:37] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, then I don't know :D
[21:38] <MrChrisDruif> When are sounds enabled? Maybe a screenshot of your sound settings might be nice :)
[21:38] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, yeah, weird.. never had this problem
[21:38] <KM0201> hang on
[21:40] <MrChrisDruif> *hanging*
[21:41] <KM0201> http://imagebin.org/151198
[21:41] <KM0201> in case its not clear, i'm set to automatic
[21:41] <KM0201> tried also
[21:41] <KM0201> no joy
[21:41] <KM0201> (also, i checked the box that says "sound when conversation has focus"... just so you know
[21:42] <Sc0jt> May be sound drivers : alsa drivers in some programs and pidgin uses oss or null.
[21:43] <KM0201> hmm
[21:44] <KM0201> Sc0jt, solution:  http://d.imagehost.org/0366/pidgin_lxde.png
[21:44] <szczur> KM0201, i have set it to alsa and it is working for me
[21:45] <KM0201> szczur, not for me
[21:45] <KM0201> i had it set to alsa
[21:45] <KM0201> that picture details what i done
[21:45] <KM0201> szczur, google turned up a few hits of pidgin in lubuntu not working.. that was where i found that fix.
[21:45] <Sc0jt> well, i dont use pidgin, it is a generic solution
[21:45] <KM0201> Sc0jt, it is.. but it works..
[21:46] <KM0201> thats all i care about
[21:46] <Sc0jt> Ok
[21:48] <tomasz> what is short to change desktops ?
[21:58] <MrChrisDruif> O, right. We use Pidgin as default right? Does anybody know if I can order the tabs when the open (the auto-connected irc-channels I mean)?
[21:58] <MrChrisDruif> Automatically, manually I know ;)
[21:58] <head_victim> No idea :/ I'm an xchat man
[21:59] <MrChrisDruif> Rats
[22:00] <head_victim> Click and drag? Change the order you add them to the auto join? Umm?
[22:00] <MrChrisDruif> The first, but I don't know how I can reorder the auto-join list
[22:01] <MrChrisDruif> The second *
[22:01] <MrChrisDruif> Click'n'drag is manually reordering ;)(
[22:01] <head_victim> Yeah but does it save it when you close and reopen?
[22:02] <MrChrisDruif> Nope, otherwise I wouldn't be asking here :)
[22:02] <tomasz> how can i connet to wlan using terminal ?
[22:03] <tomasz> i clear openbox
[22:03] <tomasz> in*
[22:08] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, is there a way to make lxterminal transparent?
[22:08] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe, not sure
[22:09] <KM0201> i can't figure it out
[22:10] <KM0201> if i can't figure out how to do it w/ lxterminal
[22:10] <KM0201> how would i make gnome-terminal my default terminal?
[22:11] <MrChrisDruif> KM0201: You found the color settings?
[22:11] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, on lxterminal? yes, of course
[22:12] <MrChrisDruif> Does it say transparency anywhere? Which version Lubuntu are you running anyway?
[22:12] <KM0201> running 11.04
[22:12] <KM0201> but i jsut saw how to do it.
[22:12] <KM0201> click the background color, then change the "Opacity" slider"
[22:13] <MrChrisDruif> Indeed,I read something about a slider, hence my question about color settings :)
[22:13] <KM0201> it's usually listed as like "transparency option" or something like that ... but thats cool
[22:13] <KM0201> learn something every da.
[22:14] <MrChrisDruif> So if you look at this page <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/DocumentationHelp/LXTerminal > where would you need to click for transparency and right or left button?
[22:18] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, you click one of the clors.. if you want the background transparent.. click the background
[22:18] <KM0201> then move the slider "Opacity"... lower... and  click OK, and you'll see the background go clear
[22:19] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, the opacity slider is not in that screenshot though, for whatever reason
[22:19] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe because it's from an older version. This picture you mean http://phillw.net/lxt-2.png
[22:20] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, http://imagebin.org/151213
[22:21] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, great :)
[22:21] <KM0201> that was the easiest way to explain it..lol
[22:21] <KM0201> you know something i never understand
[22:22] <KM0201> whenever i install ubuntu, and set my time (Indianapolis, IN)
[22:22] <KM0201> on the install process
[22:22] <MrChrisDruif> Next time someone asks for transparency I'll direct them to the wiki or help (we're moving them atm)and say the transparency slider is missing from the screenshot :D
[22:22] <KM0201> lol
[22:22] <KM0201> but no matter what, when i install ubuntu, my time, even when i set it properly during install, ALWAYS defaults to America/Adak...
[22:22] <KM0201> not a huge deal.. just don't know why it "ALWAYS" does that
[22:23] <MrChrisDruif> Maybe a bug?
[22:24] <MrChrisDruif> I think you should be looking into ubiquity bugs for this one :)
[22:24] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, i dunno, it does it every single version of ubuntu i install, and i know i set city/state right in the install process, but when i'm actually installed, and i boot. .my time zone is set to America/Adak.. ALWAYS..lol
[22:25] <KM0201> MrChrisDruif, what version of lubuntu are you using now (assuming you are)
[22:26] <MrChrisDruif> Now none, on my mum's laptop (dual-boot, no worry :P) 10.04
[22:27] <KM0201> oh ok
[22:28] <KM0201> i gotta roll out
[22:28] <KM0201> i'll be backin  abit.
[22:28] <MrChrisDruif> Alright, take care :)
[23:15] <kosaidpo|> hello guys im wonderin how to get the latest pcmanfm without compilin ??
[23:17] <head_victim> kosaidpo|: is it in a ppa somewhere?
[23:18] <kosaidpo|> uhmm i found a git repo but  idk if its a good idea , isi t ?
[23:18] <tomasz> i install vbox 4.06 and it dont work on lubuntu
[23:19] <tomasz> NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005)
[23:19] <head_victim> kosaidpo|: https://launchpad.net/~lxde/+archive/ppa is what I'd suggest
[23:19] <kosaidpo|> head_victim: is it good to use git repo ??
[23:19] <head_victim> kosaidpo|: no idea sorry, have never used one
[23:19] <head_victim> gilir: can you help kosaidpo|? What's the easiest/best way to test the latest pcmanfm out?
[23:20] <kosaidpo|> head_victim: but this one is fo the hole environnement , me i want only pcmanfm : ]
[23:20] <head_victim> kosaidpo|: yeah but you can choose to only update pcmanfm
[23:21] <kosaidpo|> head_victim: how ??
[23:22] <tomasz> ok work now, i use : sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[23:24] <head_victim> kosaidpo|: thought it was fairly simple but trying to find a link that explains it well because apparently it's not as simple as I remember
[23:25] <kosaidpo|> head_victim: shud i  add deb in front of the line in source list ??
[23:25] <lee> ok, this is driving me INSANE! I have a machine that I am trying to get lubuntu 10.4 running on. I keep getting "out of range" errors from the monitor, and I get no GUI in failsafeX mode
[23:25] <kosaidpo|> or use the cmmd apt-add-repo ?
[23:25] <head_victim> kosaidpo|: which source are you adding?
[23:25] <kosaidpo|> the link u gav m
[23:25] <head_victim> lee: does the monitor work with other computers?
[23:27] <lee> I have used "X -configure" to generate a basic config and edited it slightly (to use vesa instead of intel driver, as using the intel driver appears to hang the machine completely when X starts, and to add a Modeline to the Monitor section, then call it from the Display subsection), run "X -config <path to that config>" and I still get the same result
[23:28] <lee> head_victim: yes, the monitor is fine
[23:28] <head_victim> kosaidpo|:  sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lxde/ppa      should work ok
[23:28] <head_victim> lee: ok just checking the basics first.
[23:28] <head_victim> What video card/driver are you using?
[23:28] <kosaidpo|> head_victim: ok tnx
[23:29] <lee> head_victim: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)
[23:29] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo|: this one? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm
[23:29] <lee> although there is also: 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02)   I believe this is the DVI port which I am not using
[23:31] <head_victim> lee: is there anything in dmesg?
[23:32] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo|: It's maintained by our friendly head-of-dev as far as I remember right :)
[23:32] <MrChrisDruif> Yup, it's from our head of dev
[23:32] <lee> head_victim: there's lots in dmesg, but nothing relating to this as far as I can see
[23:32] <kosaidpo|> MrChrisDruif: who ?? head_victim ??
[23:32] <MrChrisDruif> Nope gilir
[23:33] <MrChrisDruif> Try to keep up ;) (Just kidding)
[23:33] <kosaidpo|> ahh cus the only name i kno is julien from the ML ;]
[23:33] <head_victim> lee: can you pastebin the xorg.conf you changed?
[23:34] <MrChrisDruif> kosaidpo|: ML?
[23:34] <kosaidpo|> mailing list : D
[23:34] <head_victim> lee: I'm hoping it looks something like http://pastebin.com/dxK2DiYu
[23:35] <MrChrisDruif> That's the same ;)
[23:35] <lee> head_victim: http://pastebin.com/wc87DTR8
[23:35] <MrChrisDruif> If you hover your mouse above it, you'll see it's email adress
[23:36] <kosaidpo|> MrChrisDruif: hahah ok i tho its another peson
[23:37] <lee> what's also weird is that I can't ctrl-alt-f# to another console whilst the monitor claims to be out of sync (ctrl-alt-backspace/delete do nothing either, but the machine is reachable via ssh and not under load), also tried ctrl-alt- and + lots of times to no avail
[23:37] <head_victim> lee: can you comment out your entries and try the one I pasted? (Assuming your monitor can handle those resolutions, if not change them to something it can EASILY accomplish)
[23:37] <head_victim> lee: so it's definitely working just not displaying
[23:37] <lee> head_victim: sure, hang on
[23:39] <head_victim> lee: no worries, just trying to see if we can get the basics to work
[23:40] <lee> ahh shit that was stupid, I put that pastebin in/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:41] <lee> then started it with: X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[23:41] <lee> head_victim: that caused the machine to hang, same as failsafeX does
[23:42] <head_victim> SO where is the "out of range" error coming from if not dmesg?
[23:44] <lee> the monitor itself is showing that error
[23:45] <head_victim> lee: ah ok, laptop or desktop?
[23:45] <lee> desktop
[23:45] <lee> well, desktop style
[23:50] <lee> http://www.lex.com.tw/product/TW2242H.htm is the machine
[23:51] <head_victim> lee: I might have found somethign
[23:51] <head_victim> https://launchpad.net/~glasen/+archive/855gm-fix and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27187 should be good reads