=== robotman is now known as wikirobot === wikirobot is now known as robotman [02:50] are you on here jason? [03:04] Alex? [03:04] yar [03:04] Haha I missed that one. [03:05] lol [03:05] robotman Just a sec [03:05] robotman: MInd joing lubuntu-offtopic ? [03:06] *joining [03:06] already did [03:06] Oh :) === semitones is now known as sillytones === jason86 is now known as Ichigo2011 [08:39] could someone tell me how to make lubuntu fill up my entire laptop scree...instead of just 60-70%?? [08:39] ...annoying [08:46] monitor issues? [11:01] HI is there a way to stop my laptop going to sleep when i put the screen down? === tomasz_hp is now known as tomasz [15:04] i use now lubuntu , its there gnome too ? [15:05] tomasz: Depends on which way you installed it :) [15:06] hello [15:06] I need to install Lubuntu by usb disk [15:06] install normal version lubuntu 11.04 from usb [15:07] i haven't a CD burner, how do I pass the .iso CD image to an USB? [15:07] EagleScreen, its there install icon [15:07] EagleScreen, use startup disk manager [15:07] in administration menu [15:08] it install iso to boot pendrive [15:08] EagleScreen: and if you are on Windows, use unetbootin [15:08] hi [15:08] I uderstand, thanks [15:09] tomasz: Not by default, but you can always install it with "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" [15:09] why lubuntu have big iso 700mb ? here is default less software than ubuntu [15:10] Also you can choose to add the option "--no-install-recommends" [15:11] ubuntu have for example libreoffice its take a place in iso [15:11] lubuntu dont have [15:11] tomasz: I do not know, maybe some lightweight apps have gotten a big install size? [15:13] Big install size != heavy in use [15:13] i dont know, i only ask i am begginer in ubuntu and i see is not so much software in default and here is light lxde but it still 700mb ;) [15:13] maby install are big [15:14] but lubuntu is more fast than ubuntu [15:14] Maybe because gnome is better designed to work with each other, there for taking up less space. I don't know [15:15] tomasz: lubuntu ships more language support out of the box than ubuntu does [15:15] maby is more small programs and i dont see it now, more administration than for normal users [15:15] so its basically so big because of all the languages supported and help files shipped [15:16] leszek: Why is that? If even Ubuntu doesn't ship with them? Would make more room for other apps? [15:17] lubuntu have normal tray not like unity ? [15:17] tomasz: yes normal one [15:18] ok [15:18] MrChrisDruif: I don't think there is any app missing in lubuntu to fullfill its goal right now [15:18] it is easy share folder with samba in Lubuntu? [15:18] lubuntu use ext4 or ext3 ? [15:19] tomasz: ext4 by default, but you can use whatever you want [15:19] ok thanks i see ext3 on pendrive so i ask [15:19] EagleScreen: I don't think the gnome sharing assistent is installed in lubuntu, and no pcmanfm does not have an implementation of samba sharing I guess [15:22] is there some nice windows for lxde ? [15:23] Onyx is nice [15:25] you mean window decor ? [15:25] yes [15:25] you can find several on box-look.org if you search for openbox themes [15:25] widgets and window [15:25] widgets are managed by gtk themes [15:25] so you need to set them up seperately [15:26] nice thx [15:50] how simple install skype ? [15:51] ok i have [15:52] :) [15:53] :D [15:54] normal dont have in synaptic [15:59] lxde realy fast work ;) [16:03] hello, I am trying to run Lubuntu 10.4 (because of the X.org version required by the touchscreen driver). when I try to boot to the livecd the loading logo appears for about 30 seconds and then the screen goes blank; so I tried booting in safe graphics mode from the cd, and this time I get an "out of range" error from the monitor [16:04] if I hit ctrl-alt-- twice then the desktop becomes visible, but I have to pan around to see the bottom panel. running xdpyinfo from a terminal claims it's running at 1024x768 [16:05] the monitor supports 1280x1024, so I'm not sure why a) that's not working normally, or b) why I have to pan around the screen to see sections of it at a time. can anybody shed any light on this? [16:05] maby something with refresh of monitor hmm [16:06] (ubuntu 10.10 works fine, but has an incompatible version of x.org) === robotman_ is now known as robotman [16:30] its ok when i have opengl render unknown ? [16:31] how is possible one core works with 1333 and second 1733? ;) [16:39] i have problem with chromium when i do open file in download folder i get new page html [16:43] where i can found trash ? [16:43] tomasz: you get an html page when opening a zip or rar from chromium ? [16:44] no when i open folder where is file , i download *.deb [16:44] tomasz: trash sits in the filemanager [16:44] oh ok i have trash [16:44] tomasz: I understand. I think chromium only recognizes dolphin & nautilus as filemanagers [16:45] oh i understand [16:49] tomasz: hmm... I found a lxde section for pcmanfm in /usr/bin/xdg-open (at the end of the file). Please post the last 20 lines of that file on a nopaste service [16:49] how install deb.tar file ? [16:50] tomasz: whats a deb.tar file ? [16:50] in lazarus site [16:50] a deb itself is an archive so why is it tarred ? [16:50] http://sourceforge.net/projects/lazarus/files/Lazarus%20Linux%20i386%20DEB/Lazarus%200.9.30/ [16:51] tomasz: seems to me like a tar compressed deb file. Try extracting it with file-roller [16:52] leszek r u speak poland? [16:52] no [16:53] mam ten plik xdg-open [16:54] case "$DE" in ... [16:55] open_lxde "$url" [16:55] i need change it for lxde in " " ? [16:58] hmm... try adding this at the end: http://paste.ubuntu.com/601777/ [16:59] save the file then with root rights [16:59] it should work then [16:59] I think we need to fix this for the next release. Please also file a bug for lubuntu on this. [17:05] i change but always open in chromium [17:07] maby after restart [17:23] how create boot usb in lubuntu ? [17:25] tomasz: with usb-creator [17:26] its default soft in ubuntu ? [17:28] I think yes [17:32] usb-creator dont work with not-ubuntu iso ?? [17:34] I don't know, I think it worked in debian [17:36] i know but dont see me iso files [17:36] only ubuntu iso [17:38] you have to choose the lubuntu.iso that you saved somewhere on your harddisk [17:43] i know but i wont another linux install on usb [17:47] ok unbootin works [17:52] My mother did what she says was a "partial upgrade" a couple of days ago and found her Digikam missing (She's using Lubuntu with KDE bits) and now, when I try to re-install it, it refuses because things like kdebase-runtime aren't going to be installed rather than just pulling them in like it should. [17:52] I'm a Gentoo guy so I don't have enough experience to know what this "Ask your administrator" "But I am the administrator" error really means. [17:59] hey, just upgraded 11.04 [17:59] and lost the auto-login. Editing /etc/lxdm/lxdm.conf doesn't appear to have an effect [17:59] am I doing something wrong? [18:02] here I am wanting a fast window manager but the latest ubuntu for my old box and darn it...my nvidia (driver 96) legacy card wont work.....kind of defeats the object [18:03] Figured it out. Tried using aptitude instead. When aptitude suggested the same solution as apt-get and I picked "no", it then suggested downgrading half of KDE from maverick-security to maverick so the other half (from maverick) would accept it. [18:36] hi [18:36] in lubuntu is system monitor? [19:12] tomasz: yes [19:12] just look at systemtools [19:25] is there a way (if you're familiar w/ gnome or xfce) to combine all my open windows, into a single button (or meni).. on the panel?.. rather than having a row of tabs or icons across my panel [19:27] I'm not getting this one [19:27] ? [19:27] not clear? [19:27] you want a button which does what? [19:27] ok... on xfce and gnome [19:27] there's a panel button [19:27] and when you click it, you get like a "menu" of open windows.. instead of having them spread all across the panel [19:28] Right click lxpanel "Taskbar (Window List) Settings: check "Combine multiple application windows into the same button" [19:28] it basically keeps the panel from looking clutter [19:28] KM0201: ^^ [19:28] Unit193, thats not what i'm looking for [19:28] KM0201, press middle button on desktop [19:28] that only combines multiple windows of the same program, into one option [19:28] mouse middle button [19:28] bioterror, ah.. ok [19:29] i cna deal w/ that [19:29] is that what you're after? [19:29] yup.. exactly [19:29] it's just i'm used to it being a panel button [19:29] but middle click works fine [19:29] :-) [19:30] now, how would i go about configuring my mic. [19:30] cuz isn't alsamixer obsolute? [19:31] nope [19:31] alsa is not obsolete :) [19:31] OSS is [19:31] i tried installing pulse audio volume control (what i use in xfce), but it doesnj't seem tow ork w/ lxde [19:31] lubuntu does not use pulseaudio [19:31] AFAIK ;) [19:31] ok. [19:31] that makes sense then [19:33] now if skype works.. i'm gonna probably switch [19:35] you know, usually "fast" GUI's suck. [19:35] they are either to "nerdy"... or they get bloated down [19:36] lxde seems to be a good cross between functional, and fast [19:38] skype works flawlessly [19:38] great [19:39] trying to think if there's anything else i need to test [19:41] skype never works flawlessly :D [19:41] bioterror, it does in my initial test.. which is all i can ask.. :) [19:45] all right, gonna move some stuff to another partition, and start working on installing [19:54] installatino has started. [20:32] is some weather tray for lxde ? [20:32] or widget === MK` is now known as MK`` [21:33] anyone know why i would not have sound no sound? it works fine, but no sound (sound in other apps is fine) [21:35] KM0201: can you explain it a bit better sorry, I'm not following [21:35] head_victim, just realized that didn't make any sense..lol [21:36] Pidgin has no sound, sound in other apps works fine [21:36] i've ot sound enabled.. i've tried changing the default sounds to some saved ones that i have (to see if that was the issue).. and none work [21:36] KM0201: is there some sort of volume control within pidgin? [21:36] KM0201: Are your sounds muted? [21:36] You can mute the sounds from pidgin [21:36] head_victim, yes, and its set to "normal"... (so i should be able to hear it).. and no, sounds are not muted.. checked both of those [21:37] Alright, then I don't know :D [21:38] When are sounds enabled? Maybe a screenshot of your sound settings might be nice :) [21:38] MrChrisDruif, yeah, weird.. never had this problem [21:38] hang on [21:40] *hanging* [21:41] http://imagebin.org/151198 [21:41] in case its not clear, i'm set to automatic [21:41] tried also [21:41] no joy [21:41] (also, i checked the box that says "sound when conversation has focus"... just so you know [21:42] May be sound drivers : alsa drivers in some programs and pidgin uses oss or null. [21:43] hmm [21:44] Sc0jt, solution: http://d.imagehost.org/0366/pidgin_lxde.png [21:44] KM0201, i have set it to alsa and it is working for me [21:45] szczur, not for me [21:45] i had it set to alsa [21:45] that picture details what i done [21:45] szczur, google turned up a few hits of pidgin in lubuntu not working.. that was where i found that fix. [21:45] well, i dont use pidgin, it is a generic solution [21:45] Sc0jt, it is.. but it works.. [21:46] thats all i care about [21:46] Ok [21:48] what is short to change desktops ? [21:58] O, right. We use Pidgin as default right? Does anybody know if I can order the tabs when the open (the auto-connected irc-channels I mean)? [21:58] Automatically, manually I know ;) [21:58] No idea :/ I'm an xchat man [21:59] Rats [22:00] Click and drag? Change the order you add them to the auto join? Umm? [22:00] The first, but I don't know how I can reorder the auto-join list [22:01] The second * [22:01] Click'n'drag is manually reordering ;)( [22:01] Yeah but does it save it when you close and reopen? [22:02] Nope, otherwise I wouldn't be asking here :) [22:02] how can i connet to wlan using terminal ? [22:03] i clear openbox [22:03] in* [22:08] MrChrisDruif, is there a way to make lxterminal transparent? [22:08] Maybe, not sure [22:09] i can't figure it out [22:10] if i can't figure out how to do it w/ lxterminal [22:10] how would i make gnome-terminal my default terminal? [22:11] KM0201: You found the color settings? [22:11] MrChrisDruif, on lxterminal? yes, of course [22:12] Does it say transparency anywhere? Which version Lubuntu are you running anyway? [22:12] running 11.04 [22:12] but i jsut saw how to do it. [22:12] click the background color, then change the "Opacity" slider" [22:13] Indeed,I read something about a slider, hence my question about color settings :) [22:13] it's usually listed as like "transparency option" or something like that ... but thats cool [22:13] learn something every da. [22:14] So if you look at this page where would you need to click for transparency and right or left button? [22:18] MrChrisDruif, you click one of the clors.. if you want the background transparent.. click the background [22:18] then move the slider "Opacity"... lower... and click OK, and you'll see the background go clear [22:19] MrChrisDruif, the opacity slider is not in that screenshot though, for whatever reason [22:19] Maybe because it's from an older version. This picture you mean http://phillw.net/lxt-2.png [22:20] MrChrisDruif, http://imagebin.org/151213 [22:21] Alright, great :) [22:21] that was the easiest way to explain it..lol [22:21] you know something i never understand [22:22] whenever i install ubuntu, and set my time (Indianapolis, IN) [22:22] on the install process [22:22] Next time someone asks for transparency I'll direct them to the wiki or help (we're moving them atm)and say the transparency slider is missing from the screenshot :D [22:22] lol [22:22] but no matter what, when i install ubuntu, my time, even when i set it properly during install, ALWAYS defaults to America/Adak... [22:22] not a huge deal.. just don't know why it "ALWAYS" does that [22:23] Maybe a bug? [22:24] I think you should be looking into ubiquity bugs for this one :) [22:24] MrChrisDruif, i dunno, it does it every single version of ubuntu i install, and i know i set city/state right in the install process, but when i'm actually installed, and i boot. .my time zone is set to America/Adak.. ALWAYS..lol [22:25] MrChrisDruif, what version of lubuntu are you using now (assuming you are) [22:26] Now none, on my mum's laptop (dual-boot, no worry :P) 10.04 [22:27] oh ok [22:28] i gotta roll out [22:28] i'll be backin abit. [22:28] Alright, take care :) [23:15] hello guys im wonderin how to get the latest pcmanfm without compilin ?? [23:17] kosaidpo|: is it in a ppa somewhere? [23:18] uhmm i found a git repo but idk if its a good idea , isi t ? [23:18] i install vbox 4.06 and it dont work on lubuntu [23:19] NS_ERROR_FAILURE (0x80004005) [23:19] kosaidpo|: https://launchpad.net/~lxde/+archive/ppa is what I'd suggest [23:19] head_victim: is it good to use git repo ?? [23:19] kosaidpo|: no idea sorry, have never used one [23:19] gilir: can you help kosaidpo|? What's the easiest/best way to test the latest pcmanfm out? [23:20] head_victim: but this one is fo the hole environnement , me i want only pcmanfm : ] [23:20] kosaidpo|: yeah but you can choose to only update pcmanfm [23:21] head_victim: how ?? [23:22] ok work now, i use : sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup [23:24] kosaidpo|: thought it was fairly simple but trying to find a link that explains it well because apparently it's not as simple as I remember [23:25] head_victim: shud i add deb in front of the line in source list ?? [23:25] ok, this is driving me INSANE! I have a machine that I am trying to get lubuntu 10.4 running on. I keep getting "out of range" errors from the monitor, and I get no GUI in failsafeX mode [23:25] or use the cmmd apt-add-repo ? [23:25] kosaidpo|: which source are you adding? [23:25] the link u gav m [23:25] lee: does the monitor work with other computers? [23:27] I have used "X -configure" to generate a basic config and edited it slightly (to use vesa instead of intel driver, as using the intel driver appears to hang the machine completely when X starts, and to add a Modeline to the Monitor section, then call it from the Display subsection), run "X -config " and I still get the same result [23:28] head_victim: yes, the monitor is fine [23:28] kosaidpo|: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:lxde/ppa should work ok [23:28] lee: ok just checking the basics first. [23:28] What video card/driver are you using? [23:28] head_victim: ok tnx [23:29] head_victim: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) [23:29] kosaidpo|: this one? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pcmanfm [23:29] although there is also: 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated Graphics Device (rev 02) I believe this is the DVI port which I am not using [23:31] lee: is there anything in dmesg? [23:32] kosaidpo|: It's maintained by our friendly head-of-dev as far as I remember right :) [23:32] Yup, it's from our head of dev [23:32] head_victim: there's lots in dmesg, but nothing relating to this as far as I can see [23:32] MrChrisDruif: who ?? head_victim ?? [23:32] Nope gilir [23:33] Try to keep up ;) (Just kidding) [23:33] ahh cus the only name i kno is julien from the ML ;] [23:33] lee: can you pastebin the xorg.conf you changed? [23:34] kosaidpo|: ML? [23:34] mailing list : D [23:34] lee: I'm hoping it looks something like http://pastebin.com/dxK2DiYu [23:35] That's the same ;) [23:35] head_victim: http://pastebin.com/wc87DTR8 [23:35] If you hover your mouse above it, you'll see it's email adress [23:36] MrChrisDruif: hahah ok i tho its another peson [23:37] what's also weird is that I can't ctrl-alt-f# to another console whilst the monitor claims to be out of sync (ctrl-alt-backspace/delete do nothing either, but the machine is reachable via ssh and not under load), also tried ctrl-alt- and + lots of times to no avail [23:37] lee: can you comment out your entries and try the one I pasted? (Assuming your monitor can handle those resolutions, if not change them to something it can EASILY accomplish) [23:37] lee: so it's definitely working just not displaying [23:37] head_victim: sure, hang on [23:39] lee: no worries, just trying to see if we can get the basics to work [23:40] ahh shit that was stupid, I put that pastebin in/etc/X11/xorg.conf [23:41] then started it with: X -config /etc/X11/xorg.conf [23:41] head_victim: that caused the machine to hang, same as failsafeX does [23:42] SO where is the "out of range" error coming from if not dmesg? [23:44] the monitor itself is showing that error [23:45] lee: ah ok, laptop or desktop? [23:45] desktop [23:45] well, desktop style [23:50] http://www.lex.com.tw/product/TW2242H.htm is the machine [23:51] lee: I might have found somethign [23:51] https://launchpad.net/~glasen/+archive/855gm-fix and https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=27187 should be good reads [23:53] Freedesktop bug 27187 in Driver/intel "[855GM] gtt chipset flush is not cache coherent" [Normal,Resolved: fixed]