[00:15] what's the cool way to backup some really small files to a network something something? [00:16] I have a script that emails them to me... I'd like another option as well [00:21] Hey [00:22] Okay guys, I have a problem. On my main PC, various shmup games seem to be uncontrollable. Most think that I am holding up+left, but rrootage just doesn't move at all. it happens on ubuntu variants, fedora, and every other linux install that I have tried so it isn't just ubuntu exclusive. Testing in a liveCD environment between two seperate PC's reveals that this is only a problem with my PC and not the other [00:22] one. This is a problem with native games, WINE, and MAME. But seems to only be effecting games with joystick support. I honestly have no idea where to start searching for answers here, but thought this could be a decent starting point. [00:23] I have no joysticks, just using a standard keyboard and mouse [00:34] anyone here help me with a problem? [00:35] I could try [00:35] but I have my own problem to figure out too [00:35] so depends what it is [00:35] ubuntu will not install [00:36] i hit install to hdd and the screen goes black [00:36] 11.04 I am guessing? [00:36] yes [00:37] i tried many diff cd's and flash drives [00:37] all do the same thing [00:37] interesting, haven't heard of that problem before. Did you have the same problem on older ubuntu distro's? [00:37] i had 9.1 worked fine [00:38] updated to 10.02 and it didnt work [00:38] and i did x32 and x64 11.04 [00:38] I think that may be out of my own reach. You could try the [00:38] #ubuntu channel [00:38] they have a lot more active people on there than this place [00:38] i figured since im a noob id try here first [00:39] thank you anyways [00:39] No problem === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Laggg is now known as LagggAWAY [01:20] hi [01:25] help [01:28] hello [01:33] How can i install vlc media player on ubuntu 11.04? [01:33] please help ! [01:37] hello neo_ [01:39] neo_: you can install it from the terminal using the apt-get command or you can install it using the Software Center [01:41] neo_: if you click the Ubuntu logo in the top left, and in the Dash type 'sof'. You should see the Software Center. [01:41] or you can open a Terminal and run the command: sudo apt-get install vlc vlc-plugin-pulse mozilla-plugin-vlc [01:43] thank you [01:43] downloading ... === LagggAWAY is now known as Laggg [02:54] Hey there - I upgraded to 11.04 and have dual monitors - however I can't move a window from one monitor to another [02:54] any ideas as to why that is happening? [02:55] When I drag the window to the side to move to another monitor it resizes to half the screen size - Windows 7 style [03:00] i think if u install ccsm or something u can control it [07:10] can anyone point me to the right direction to enable ubuntu 11.04 to network with windows? [07:11] samba? [07:12] ok, reading up on it right now [08:40] hi [08:41] i have ubuntu 10.10 Netbook and for some time now my software center doesnt work [08:42] when i execute it, the window never appeares, it only shows on taskbar for few sec [09:46] hey guys [09:46] is there any way i can add the Desktop shortcut to Unity? (: [09:57] pfhffpfpf, how hard it can be to capture audio from applications :p [09:57] these pulseaudio/soundrecorder guides are just failing for me :p [10:01] audacity seems to have nice little dropdown for input source, why the heck normal sound recorder doesn't have this === nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn-work [10:21] grrrr i cant get my flash to play certain videos [11:19] hi can someone pls help, somehow I corrupted my top bar and the launcher in 11.04, was messing with compiz to get transparency back [11:39] :/ 4 minutes and no answer and the person leaves... even a burger at McDonalds takes longer [12:18] quick question. I have 2 networks at home a wired and a wireless, each on their own router with their own staticIP. I understand that network manager chooses the strongest connection and dropps the others temporarily. Is there a way of keeping both connections alive? only the wireless one is used to connect to the internet [12:19] so I need to keep the wireless network alive and running even when the wired connection is running simultaneously [12:19] hope that makes sense [13:04] hi [13:04] heya [14:14] I have to reinstall my ubuntu, because I messed up my firewall config, even when I flush iptables it's still blocking connections :/ Which version should I install? 10.04, 10.10 or 11.04? [14:19] depends which one you like... [14:24] dr0pb3ar: 10.10 and 10.04 :P [14:25] I just updated to 11.04 and am finding the new layout a bit difficult [14:25] it maximises the screen. I find everything a bit less accessible though [14:26] dr0pb3ar: I don't like unity, and the gnome in 11.04 is a bit buggy, I'll choose 10.04, it's LT [14:26] S === TheDaniel0108 is now known as Daniel0108 === nlsthzn is now known as nlsthzn-work [15:15] Hey there everyone - I upgrade to 11.04 - but decided its not for me - I installed using Wubi but would like to go back to 10.10 or 10.04 with Wubi - how can I do that? [15:16] I saw that putting an iso in the same folder as Wubi was supposed to work - but putting 10.10 cd Desktop ISO in a folder with Wubi didn't seem to work [15:16] you can uninstall wubis like windows software Dangr_ [15:17] just backup your data [15:17] remove it [15:17] holstein: Yep I just did that - which is cake :) [15:17] and reinstall whatever version you'd like [15:17] holstein: well I'd like to use Wubi again - but I can't seem to figure out how to get Wubit to pick 10.10 and not 11.04 [15:18] Dangr_: you need to get the specific wubi [15:18] or use the wubi thats on the install disc [15:18] *if its on the install disc [15:19] holstein: I suspected as much - any leads on where I can obtain that? [15:19] Dangr_: i prefer using the one on the disc [15:19] since you wont have to go and download the iso [15:19] holstein: Live CD? or mail order? Is there a difference? [15:20] http://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu/download [15:20] Dangr_: ? [15:20] holstein: oh my [15:20] you have to make the live CD [15:20] holstein: I should have just read a little more.... [15:20] holstein: Sorry :) [15:20] the mail order one comes to you [15:21] Dangr_: no worries :) [15:21] holstein: http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.10/ [15:21] Its right at the bottom :-P [15:21] all the official iso's should be the same [15:21] yeah tahts what I thought too - but then I doubted myself [15:21] live will be different from alternate [15:21] right right- is it just a difference in desktop environments? [15:22] live and alternate, the installer is different [15:22] and the alternate has not live environment [15:22] but you end up with the same thing [15:22] after installing [15:22] *assuming you want that [15:22] from the alternate CD [15:22] ooo ok I see [15:22] you can do different things [15:22] like a command line only install [15:23] One day I'll be man enough to brave that [15:24] no reason [15:24] if you need it, you'll know [15:24] and just do it [15:24] holstein: right right - thanks for your help as usual - I'll be back in a bit [15:25] Dangr_: o/ [15:25] holstein: gonna give this a whirl [15:25] Good luck Dangr_ [15:32] sir i wanna change my wallpaper but i am not able to do it [15:32] through appearance [15:32] instead that a solid color is coming [15:34] preyas1: 11.04? [15:34] yes [15:34] unity? [15:34] i installed gnome 3 [15:34] which works perfectly [15:34] yeah? [15:34] yeah [15:34] how about changing the wallpaper? [15:34] hows that going ;) [15:35] my wall paper is not changing [15:35] this is the problem which is jst caused === karthick87 is now known as info [15:35] when i installed some prrograms [15:38] preyas1: hmmm [15:38] im not sure what to suggest [15:38] where are you getting gnome3? [15:38] ppa? [15:38] yes [15:38] after adding it [15:39] my theme was the old one [15:39] i corrected it by using two commands === blaz_ is now known as s7nf [15:39] i think your going to have to look for help in some gnome channels [15:39] k [15:40] i bet the first thing is going to be the version though [15:40] k [15:40] holstein, rofl [15:40] maybe need to get the most recent [15:40] or see whats in the ppa [15:40] ikt: ? [15:40] how about changing the wallpaper? <- :D [15:41] k [15:41] i ll find in gnome channels [15:41] can u give me the gnome server [15:41] preyas1: good luck [15:41] thx [15:41] you can hang here as long as you like though [15:41] im not kicking you out :) [15:41] k === blaz_ is now known as s7nf [15:42] i mean what is the name of gnome server like this server name is#ubuntu-beginners-team [15:43] http://live.gnome.org/GnomeIrcChannels [15:43] holstein, thx === info is now known as karthick87 [16:31] does anyone know @ what speed a CD can write? Does it top off @ 1MB/sec? or what? [16:44] naveed: hello [16:44] hmmm:) [16:45] Froq:) i m here too :) bro [16:45] simply guide how how install programs ? like install_flash_player__linux.deb ? [16:46] Justas : there are few way to install it ... [16:46] Justas : go to application menu and you will see Ubutu Software center option [16:46] how do I flush out my IP settings? [16:46] justas: Synaptic Package Manager is your friend. [16:47] I had trouble with flash player install yesterday when I tried installing from browser. I used synaptic package manager searched for flash and installed the package for flash for mozilla and it worked just fine. [16:47] What punguy said! [16:48] how do I flush out my IP settings? [16:48] ok , i open sunaptic package manager , now what ? (ssorry very new linux user , dont know basic whing s) [16:48] nvm I got it... so guys, everytime I try to make my IP a static IP, it messes up... and I lose connectivity. I don't know why. [16:48] Froq? i did not get your point bro? mean you want to change setting ??? [16:49] Justas: you will see search option [16:49] yes i see [16:49] type software name [16:50] justas. it will give you list of software and then chose your required software from list and select Install by cliking right on that software [16:50] naveed: well I am trying to set my IP to a static IP but when I do, I lose all connectivity to the internet, I know I have my netmask and gateway correct [16:50] justas: Or click on anything in the list and type flash. [16:51] Froq : hmm it should work bro..i have also static address [16:52] Froq: Why not just leave it "dynamic" it should still bind to whatever IP you're assigned? [16:53] yeah, I guess. [16:53] huh.... just wanted to forward my ssh port 22 to the computer, so I can log to it later. [16:53] naveed: so how did you add additional channels to xChat? [16:54] naveed: nvm i got it [16:54] Server-->join channel [16:54] Ot List of cahnnels [16:54] froq: okay [16:54] Or [16:54] aw.... now i am on both. [16:54] Close one [16:56] Hello [16:58] truepurple: Hi [16:58] I need some help with ATI drivers [16:58] when i st my IPv4 so static, I lose connectivity, anyone know why? [16:58] i have all my info set correctly (i believe) [16:59] th^^: You there? [16:59] IP Address: 192.168.1.155 [16:59] Broadcast Address: 192.168.1.255 ; Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0 ; Default route: 192.168.1.1 [16:59] truepurple: sup? [16:59] froq: You sure your ISP is capapable of static? [16:59] Froq, can you ping numeric addresses? [16:59] Still having that problem from yesterday [17:00] truepurple: well I am running from my router, so yes my router can do static [17:00] truepurple, thats not his ISP thats his router [17:00] I know that is his internal IP [17:00] But he said static, and internal IP being static is a given [17:00] yeah I can ping it. [17:01] do you set DNS [17:01] ??? [17:01] naveed: no DNS set [17:01] Froq; you must add DNS IP address [17:01] th^^: Got any other ideas? [17:01] naveed: o you have too?! I didn't know that. lol... lets see if that fixes it. [17:01] uhm, not really, except clean install :p [17:02] Froq: do this and [17:02] How does one move /home from one partition to another BTW? Can one just copy/paste? [17:02] Froq, without dns you can't convert www.ubuntu.com into numbers to connect to. [17:02] truepurple: if you have another partition, you can copy your /home/foo folder there, then mount it as /home when reinstalling [17:02] naveed: I thought my router would resolve teh DNS issue, and send it out. [17:02] truepurple, be sure to use the archive flag in the copy to preserve permissions and ownership [17:02] foo? [17:03] foo, your username :P [17:03] Froq, you are explicitely disabling that by going static [17:03] naveed: wow... what a stupid mistake on my part... that is why I coudl ping it from within the network, but could not reach outside the netwrk... tahnks [17:03] escott: that I didn't realize, thanks guys! what do you recommend I put down as my DNS server? [17:03] Froq, if you want a pc to have a consistent address your router can map the mac address to the ip and use the rest for dhcp [17:03] I don't understand, I thought the folder with ones username came before home [17:03] @ the moment, I just went with Google, 8.8.8.8 [17:04] Froq: ) hahahahah:) good [17:04] Froq, so you have mac address 01:23:45... assigned to 192.168.1.50 and dhcp leases for 192.168.1.100 and up [17:04] escott: yeah, I know it can, and I am rocking DD-WRT, however, when glancing around in there last night I couldn't find it for the life of me... I know it is there, but now I cannot find it.. :/ [17:04] escott: how do I do that [17:05] truepurple: you cannot "move" home to it's own partition, you need to make new partitions first, mount somewhere (lets say /foo), then copy your /home/ folder to as /foo/ [17:05] any one try to mount exFAT partition in Ubuntu ?? [17:05] truepurple, cp -aR /home /newhome [17:05] then you can mount this partition which was mounted as /foo in your current installation, as /home when reinstalling [17:05] truepurple, you actually want to do that as sudo cp [17:05] truepurple, The default set up is /home/truepurple [17:06] escott: Sorry to be so dense but I am not understanding most of what your saying [17:06] escott: i think the issue here is that he doesn't have separate /home partition, just one big / and he'd need to do reinstall.. [17:06] escott: I found it! :) Duh, I just missed it, and I think I will go that way so then it is easier! [17:06] thanks guys! [17:06] I can create another partition [17:06] th^^, he can do that, his first step is to move the data onto / and then resize [17:06] That is not a issue [17:07] escott: What do you mean by "mount somewhere"? [17:07] then create one, format it as ext4, and mount it to *any* /location :) [17:07] truepurple, cp -R (recursive) -a (archive preserves ownership and permissions) /source/path /dest/path [17:07] or, you can just click the partition in nautilus i guess [17:07] ctrl-c your home folder, and paste to new partition [17:08] escott said I couldn't just move /home to a new partition, I had to mount or something [17:08] Froq, i think tomato firmware has been getting a bit more support than dd-wrt recently you might try it [17:08] but the terminology eludes me [17:08] truepurple, th^^ said that not me [17:08] truepurple, what do you want to accomplish? [17:08] escott: o man, really! okay... I will have to look into changing it over then. [17:08] oh right [17:09] anyone know why DD-WRT is losing support? [17:09] the dd-wrt developer wanted to start charging money, and there were gpl violation concenrs [17:09] at least thats my understanding... i didn't follow it all too closely [17:09] escott: Nothing yet, I am weighing my options. But one possible option is to move /home to a new parttition I would create to preserve data, then reinstall ubuntu freesh [17:10] truepurple, so you have single partition for everything, and you want to split it into / and /home [17:10] escott: Is it as easy as moving /home to said new partition? [17:10] escott: ok. thank you for explanation! [17:10] escott: No, I don't need to split the current partition, most of my HDD is unpartitioned [17:11] truepurple, you have to create that partition to start with. [17:11] truepurple, ok word of warning ANY attempt to modify partitions CAN lead to data lose. make sure you have backups of anything critical [17:11] escott: Of course, that's obvious and I said so [17:11] escott: I don't need to modify any partitions! [17:12] truepurple, so if you already have your new partition formated you need to mount it [17:12] escott: Is it as simple as moving /home onto a new partition? [17:12] so sudo mkdir /newhome; sudo mount /dev/sda# /newhome [17:12] escott: What do you mean by mount? [17:12] rather just copy it [17:12] sudo cp -aR /home /newhome [17:12] then verify that everything in /newhome looks good [17:12] escott: I don't have the partition yet, but I will, thats not difficult [17:13] then you can sudo mv /home /oldhome; sudo mv /newhome /home; modify fstab as needed; reboot [17:13] escott: What do you mean by mount? What do you mean by mount? [17:13] truepurple, mount attaches a device filesystem to the tree [17:13] truepurple: you can just click the new partition in file manager [17:13] and it "mounts" [17:13] then you can copy stuff there [17:14] escott: Does this need to be done under the new install or the old one? [17:14] old one [17:14] truepurple, Open Nautilus, on the left panel right click on the partition and click on Mount. [17:15] What happens if I didn't mount it? [17:15] how do you open an app via terminal in ubuntu? Like it OsX, it was "open -a Firefox.app" [17:15] No mount; no copy, or anything else. [17:15] truepurple, if you don't mount then you are copying files to the same filesystem [17:15] truepurple, so they would end up on the same partition [17:16] escott: So linux can't use any partition it hasn't mounted? [17:16] Froq, in unity 11.04 click on the ubuntu icon in the top left and type terminal [17:16] truepurple, exactly [17:16] Froq: Simply type Firefox in terminal. [17:16] No need for the "open". [17:17] escott: So how to I tell the new install to use the old /home on the new partition? [17:17] escott, I know that would work, but I just want to knwo how to start apps via terminal in ubuntu? [17:18] truepurple, The new install will do it automatically. [17:18] truepurple, new-old-new im getting confused. can we use drive names and partitions sda1 and ubuntu version numbers 11.04 instead [17:18] Froq_, sorry just type fire[TAB] [17:18] Sidewinder1, ... figured it out! I was capitalizing my F in firefox! thz [17:18] Sidewinder1: Because its named /home? [17:19] Froq, No prob. [17:19] escott: That would be confusing for me [17:20] truepurple, the new install will look for /home/your_user-name and install your home directory there. [17:20] well see ya guys! have a good day. Time to go get my study on. :( PEACE [17:20] Bye Froq_ [17:20] Sidewinder1: So I need to use the same user name as last time or it won't work? [17:22] truepurple, Not really; if you've copied all of your home settings to the "new" partition; the new install will create a brand new /home/your_username directory.. [17:22] Hope that makes sense. [17:24] It would be best, however to keep the same user name; that way you'll not have any "permission" problems. [17:25] Sidewinder1: If it makes a new directory, what about the directory I copied over from the previous install, andd the files within?? [17:25] Directories and partitions are two entirely different things. [17:26] I know that [17:26] Sorry [17:26] Guess I'm not making myself clear :-( [17:26] But you said the new install would create a brand new directory [17:27] I want it to use the old directory copied over from the old install [17:27] Yes: /home/your-user-name [17:27] truepurple, have you already done your new install? [17:27] No, I am just learning how to do it right now [17:27] as im understanding what you are saying you want to have two ubuntu installs on the same computer and then copy the home from the old to the new [17:28] in which case i would do your new install first [17:28] Then you simply copy from your separate /home/your_username to the new home.... [17:28] then copy the data [17:29] escott: No [17:29] escott: Unless I'm misunderstanding him/her, all he's looking for is a separate home dir on another partition [17:29] ??? [17:30] Sidewinder1, your guess is as good as mine. im horribly confused about what is going on. something was said about a new install [17:30] That way a fresh install can be done without loosing all of the previous user settings? [17:30] escott: From what I understand, I can copy my /home onto a second partition. Format over my current install of ubuntu for a new install, then use the same /home I copied from before [17:31] YES!!!! [17:32] But someone spoke of the new install making a new directory, rather then using the old one I copy over [17:32] At least that is how it sounded to me [17:32] hurm [17:32] truepurple, the new install will create a /home directory, but it can be made empty and your new partition mounted onto that /home [17:33] should I go with a custom install from mini.iso or Lubuntu....? [17:33] so that when you go to /home in the new system you are actually seeing your partition [17:33] truepurple, Please go here; it's a tutorial to do EXACTLY what you are requesting: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome [17:34] escott: Sorry, but I am having a hell of a time understanding what you just said [17:34] so / is on partition 1 and your home data on partition 2 and /home is a folder on partition 1, but partition 2 is mounted onto /home so that when you go to /home you end up in partition 2 [17:34] Hope that helps! [17:35] when you mount /dev/sda2 onto /home then /home becomes a window into /dev/sda2 [17:35] Wow, got quiet, all of a sudden. [17:36] escott: So how does the new install creating a new directory play into this? That is the thing I have been told that confuses me most [17:37] truepurple, Please see my link, above. [17:37] It explains everything. [17:37] truepurple, well there are two approaches you may be able to tell the new install to use the home you plan to create, or you could set it up post install (just modifying /etc/fstab) [17:38] OMG... [17:39] escott, May I PM you? [17:39] sure [17:43] Well that information on the webpage isn't for a fresh install [17:44] So if I set it up post install, the new install doesn't create a /home directory escott? [17:45] truepurple, lets focus on the problem at hand.. namely copying the data in /home to the new partition === karthick1987 is now known as karthick87 [17:45] You told me the command to do that [17:46] escott: Please help me understand this key aspect of the whole thing, perhaps by answering that question [17:47] truepurple, its tough to explain this... its just "how it works" my view on this is run the command, see what it does, come to understand how it works [17:47] truepurple, but if you would feel more comfortable with a gui then i'm sure there are gui approaches [17:48] escott: Ok, lets move on a moment then. Can I have windows use ubuntus /home directory for files too? [17:49] truepurple, its not advisable for a number of reasons [17:49] a) windows can't open ubuntu's prefered filesystem format (ext4) [17:49] I could use ext3 or ntsf [17:49] Windows can not see an ext-3 or ext-4 without a specific driver for same. [17:49] b) ubuntu support for windows filesystem (ntfs) while good is not perfect [17:49] I could install the driver [17:49] c) ubuntu would have lots of files you wouldn't want windows touching and vice-versa [17:50] Why? [17:50] But, why would you want to? [17:50] if you have a big partition of music files you could put those on something like ntfs and share that folder [17:50] Because, if I have a game save from linux, I might want to load it in windows and visa versa. I make alot of text files to keep track of information [17:51] I might want to use open office or something and open those files in either OS, rather then constantly duplicating the information or being able to access them from only one OS [17:51] truepurple, its best practice to create a partition in windows (drive letter) explicitly for sharing, and share only files in that folder [17:51] Its frankly too messy if they can't share the same saves and stuff [17:52] escott, then can I have linux not use /home at all, but use that instead? [17:52] so on windows you would save files to d:\ and they would appear in ubuntu's /media/windows or some such [17:53] truepurple, i wouldn't recommend that because its too easy for the configuration of your desktop environment (favorite applications, button order, etc) to get messed up by windows [17:53] How is that? [17:54] truepurple, they are different systems, and they don't understand what is important to each other [17:54] what files is he wanting to share? [17:55] So if I tell say open office in windows to use the same folder as open office in ubuntu to save its files, they might mess each other up? [17:55] I mean the OS? [17:55] If I told the programs to use the same save spots, ubunutu and win7 could get messed up? [17:56] truepurple: why not use Wine & install Office, then have office installed on Windows too, then have ubuntu "auto" mount the windows drive with the data.... [17:56] If you are really worried, just partition the documents folder on its own share in windows. [17:56] Because why emulate when you can run natively [17:57] truepurple: as long as you plan to run OpenOffice on both machines? [17:57] And I don't think battle for wesnoth would run nearly as nice in a emulation mode [17:57] Its silly to use wine when I can run the same program natively [17:57] If I told the programs to use the same save spots, ubunutu and win7 could get messed up? [17:58] Yes/NO? [17:58] truepurple: it isn't that black & white bro. the answer would be "maybe" [17:59] Froq, he wanted to share his /home im more worried his desktop config will get destroyed by accident in windows [17:59] truepurple, the problem is this... windows has hidden folders, and so does ubuntu. [17:59] but they way they hide them is different [17:59] escott: that is why I mentioned not sharing his home. make an independent partition for them to swap with [17:59] escott: yeah, if he does that, I agree, not a good idea. [17:59] But the files I want to share wouldn't be hidden [17:59]