[00:57] <penguin42> how important are failed to upgrades on packages?
[00:57] <penguin42> (core packages)
[03:25] <ali1234> when i run apps in xephyr they have no menu bar
[03:25] <ali1234> should i report this against xephyr, or appmenu-gtk?
[03:31] <ali1234> it doesn't happen when i uninstall appmenu-gtk so i guess that answers my question
[09:05] <gtriderxc> http://theinvisiblethings.blogspot.com/2011/04/linux-security-circus-on-gui-isolation.html
[10:02] <vish> gtriderxc: why are you dropping random links here?
[10:04] <gtriderxc> sorry. by mistake. just a wrong room
[10:04] <gtriderxc> however may be interesting 4 everyone
[14:15] <simion314> hi, i want to file a bug report, but first to check if is not already reported, i cant find a good way to limit the search nly with bugs for the 11.04 release
[14:31] <yofel> if the bug you are looking for was properly filed using apport it will have the 'natty' tag, so you can search for that
[14:33] <simion314> yofel: for kubuntu i must install apport to send a bug report?
[14:35] <yofel> no, apport is installed by default, use 'ubuntu-bug <package>' to file your bug, see...
[14:35] <yofel> !bugs
[14:35] <ubot4`> If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots
[14:37] <simion314> in fact i see apport-kde is installed 12and if you are not sure what package causes the bug, it happens during boot, so it could be the kernel or maybe the boot scripts
[14:38] <yofel> what happens?
[14:42] <simion314> yofel: the boot process stops, the key light turns off,if i press power button it resumes, and i also got an usefull
[14:43] <simion314> dmesg message log
[14:43] <simion314>    0.976296] NET: Registered protocol family 1 [    0.976305] pci 0000:00:01.0: MSI quirk detected; subordinate MSI disabled [   33.630072] pci 0000:01:05.0: Boot video device [   33.632145] pci 0000:02:00.0: xHCI HW did not halt within 2000 usec status = 0x0
[14:44] <simion314> see time stamps, it frezes for a while,untill i press the power button, i am not sure if is the kernel
[14:44] <yofel> not sure either, but from that I would guess it's the kernel. Use 'linux' as package
[14:44] <simion314> i tried to search launchpad for this issue but i did not find it,i think i will report it
[14:45] <penguin42> simion314: What hardware?
[14:47] <penguin42> yofel: Have you had any nepomuk crashes when opening dolphin?
[14:47] <simion314> penguin42: do you want exact details lspci? it is an asus mtherboard
[14:47] <penguin42> simion314: no, I was really interested in whether it was a mac - we had someone on here with some odd mac problems
[14:48] <penguin42> simion314: So that error message from dmesg looks like it got upset by the USB3 controller and thus sounds like a kernel bug - report it
[14:49] <yofel> penguin42: no, but I have nepomuk disabled on my main system, on the others I don't get any crashes
[14:49] <penguin42> yofel: Hmm ok
[14:49] <yofel> a backtrace would be useful :P
[14:49] <simion314> penguin42: that MSI quick is the usb 3.0?
[14:49] <penguin42> yofel: Yeh I've got a backtrace, I'd actually like a core file to work with
[14:49] <penguin42> simion314: Well not sure, but the xHCI I think is
[14:50] <yofel> penguin42: well, the process isn't terminated as long as drkonqi is up, so maybe you can just attach whatever to that process
[14:51] <yofel> penguin42: also see http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/Environment_Variables#Troubleshooting_and_Debugging
[14:51] <penguin42> yofel: Oh I see, I'm more used to the apport way of dumping a core and then extracting the bt
[14:53] <yofel> right, drkonqi uses ptrace instead of core files
[14:53] <penguin42> yofel: It's entirely possible it's related to my ppa that lets you decrypt LUKS partitions from dolphin, but I'm not sure how that would interact with nepomuk yet
[14:57] <penguin42> it could be something dumb like nepomuk trying to search the encrypted partition
[16:18] <jacwib> Hi. I cant lanch ubuntu software center PLZ HELP!!!
[16:18] <jacwib> (ubuntu 11.04)
[19:30] <twopoint718> So I'm new to bug triaging, but I think I can confirm that Bug #747534 exists (common-lisp-controller is listed as a dependency of SBCL on my system too)
[19:30] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 747534 in sbcl (Ubuntu) "common-lisp-controller should not be a recommended package for sbcl (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747534